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Unlocking Spiritual Intelligence, Calm Leadership, and AI Resilience in the Workplace In this compelling episode, I sit down with Amy to explore three powerful themes that are reshaping today's workplaces: spiritual intelligence, leading through chaos, and navigating the rise of AI with confidence and compassion. Part 1: Spiritual Intelligence in the Workplace Amy shares her transformational journey—from corporate executive to purpose-driven leader—sparked by a personal spiritual awakening. We dive into how spiritual intelligence can create workplaces that foster well-being, alignment, and sustainable productivity. This isn't about religion—it's about intentional awareness, empathy, and a values-driven culture that fuels human performance. Part 2: Navigating Chaos With Calm and Innovation Together, we examine how calm leadership can be a competitive advantage in uncertain times. Amy introduces the concept of “Edgewalkers”—individuals who thrive on the edge of chaos and help others find clarity amid the noise. I reflect on my own leadership experiences, including how postmortem meetings helped my teams learn from failure and bounce back stronger. Innovation, we agree, often emerges in the messiest moments—if leaders are equipped to lead with presence and poise. Part 3: Addressing AI and Automation Fears With automation accelerating, fear is rising among employees. Amy and I tackle the emotional side of digital transformation, emphasizing the need for leaders to recognize change archetypes within their teams. We discuss how trust, transparency, and emotional intelligence can ease transitions and unlock the creative potential of AI. The future of work isn't just about tech—it's about trust, connection, and leading from within.
In this episode of Spirituality in Leadership, host Andrew Cohn sits down with Judi Neal, a pioneer in workplace spirituality and the force behind the Tyson Center for Faith and Spirituality and Edgewalkers International. Judi opens up about her personal journey, including her time at Honeywell, where she took a stand as a whistleblower—an experience that reshaped her understanding of integrity, trust, and spiritual resilience.Together, Andrew and Judi explore how spirituality can transform leadership and workplace culture, making organizations more compassionate, ethical, and inclusive. Drawing insights from her books Inspiring Workplace Spirituality, Edgewalkers, and Creating Enlightened Organizations, Judi shares practical ways to integrate faith and spirituality into daily work life—no matter your beliefs.This conversation is for anyone looking to lead with greater purpose, foster a more inclusive workplace, or simply navigate their career with a deeper sense of meaning. Key TakeawaysIntegration of spirituality into leadership and business practicesThe concept of blessings in the workplace and recognizing inherent valuePersonal experiences and stories related to workplace spiritualityThe ethical dilemma faced by a whistleblower and its impact on personal valuesThe importance of aligning personal values with professional responsibilitiesFostering a culture of appreciation, trust, and community in organizationsThe transformative power of spirituality in creating ethical and compassionate work environmentsImpact of spirituality on leadership styles and organizational cultureThe concept of "edge walkers" as individuals bridging material and spiritual worldsMindfulness and self-reflection as tools for effective leadershipAddressing skepticism and resistance to spirituality in professional contextsResources and frameworks for implementing spirituality in organizationsIn This Episode:(00:00:01) Introduction to appreciative inquiry (00:01:09) Introduction of Judi Neal (00:03:28) Reading from Inspiring Workplace Spirituality(00:04:48) Moment of silence (00:06:05) Concept of blessing (00:07:26) Transforming judgment to blessing (00:10:07) Impact of workplace negativity (00:10:52) Appreciative inquiry practice (00:11:00) Discussion on blessing and religion (00:12:39) Cultural creative study insights (00:14:45) Judi's journey into spirituality (00:15:49) Whistleblower experience at Honeywell (00:16:51) Moral dilemma in the workplace (00:20:46) Spiritual awakening (00:23:24) Consequences of whistleblowing (00:24:33) Spiritual awakening and connection (00:26:35) Legal action against Honeywell (00:28:44) Teaching management and tokenism(00:31:10) Common themes among leaders (00:33:23) Reception of spirituality in the workplace (00:33:49) Defining religion, spirituality, and faith (00:35:48) Building bridges between worldviews (00:39:14) Authenticity and trust in organizations (00:39:59) Creating space for conversations (00:41:26) Practices for opening doors to meaning (00:43:47) Inspirational reading assignments (00:46:47) Eileen Fisher's personal growth initiative (00:48:04) Spirituality as a dimension of diversity (00:51:04) Offering options for spiritual practices (00:52:04) Gateways to workplace spirituality (00:57:00) Gratitude and invitation Resources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership PodcastSpirituality in LeadershipJudi NealLinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/judi-neal-99a1027Book:https://www.amazon.com/Inspiring-Workplace-Spirituality-Future-Work/dp/1837536155Book: https://www.amazon.com/Creating-Enlightened-Organizations-Gateways-Spirit/dp/1137335157Book: https://www.amazon.com/Edgewalkers-People-Organizations-Bridges-Ground/dp/0275989208Andrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe
Edgewalking is a gift desperately needed in these monochromatic times. If you're here, you're probably an edgewalker. In this deep-Winter episode I'm talking about the necessity of edgewalkers, Deer as edgewalking mentors, and what it might mean to move between worlds and make medicine from our journeys. If you enjoyed this episode, please help get it to others by subscribing, rating the show, or sharing it with a friend! You can also pitch in to support the show once or monthly at: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/meganleatherman Other resources mentioned: *One on one and small group guidance: https://awildnewwork.com/guidance
Earthkeepers: A Circlewood Podcast on Creation Care and Spirituality
In recent past episodes you might recall hearing the term “edgewalkers”—and by that term we mean those of us who have moved away from the center of conventional church and faith praxis,and moved toward the creative edges of the institutional church where new imaginings and alternate expressions of faith life are being explored. That includes of course new ways of thinking about and experiencing God in and through creation. In our interview with John Phillip Newell earlier this season, he described that mode as dwelling in the space between temple and the wilderness. In this episode, Forrest will be talking with a good friend and fellow edgewalker Victoria Loorz—cofounder of the Wild Church movement, and current director of the Center for Wild Spirituality—or Seminary of the Wild as it is also known. In this, which is part one of our conversation, they explore the idea of what it means practice prophetic critique of the mainstream church while still loving the church and seeking to be part of its reformation and renewal. Here then is the first part of that conversation.Guest: Victoria LoorzCenter for Wild SpiritualityWild Church NetworkTakeawaysVictoria shares her personal journey of caregiving and its impact on her work.The shift in worldview is essential for creating a new narrative in spirituality.Community is vital for those feeling disconnected from traditional church settings.Edgewalkers play a crucial role in exploring new spiritual paths.Restoring sacred relationships with nature is fundamental to wild spirituality.Fear and resistance often hinder creativity in faith practices.The concept of othering is prevalent in both culture and spirituality.The church has a significant role in addressing the climate crisis.Love is the foundation of stewardship and ecological care.Practicing wild spirituality involves intentionality and openness to new experiences.Keywords: wild spirituality, edgewalkers, sacred relationships, community, climate crisis, love, stewardship, othering, church, worldview shift, Newell, wild church, seminary of the wildFind us on our website: Earthkeepers Support the Earthkeepers podcast Check out the Ecological Disciple
Earthkeepers: A Circlewood Podcast on Creation Care and Spirituality
In this episode James and Forrest continue with the second part of a conversation with John Philip Newell about his new book, The Great Search: Turning to Earth and Soul in the Search for Healing and Home. In this book, John Philip argues for a re-imagining of how we relate to creation, to each other, to God and even to ourselves. He advocates for engaging creation as the primary means of knowing God, of seeing the sacred in all life forms, and of loving all creation as we love ourselves. And because the conversation was so full of emerging truths and insights, we split the conversation into two parts. In this, the second half of the conversation, they pick up at a point in our conversation just after John Philip has explained how some religious teachings have made us forget how to fall in love with nature, and caused us to lose sight of the divine presence in everything, all around us. Here then is part two of the conversation with John Philip Newell.Mentions John Philip Newell's website Earth & SoulIonaFindhorn EcovillageVictoria LoorzCeltic SpiritualityThomas BerryNan ShepherdEdwin Muir TakeawaysReimagining our relationship with creation is essential for healing.Pilgrimage can take many forms, even in urban settings.We must strive to see the divine in everyone, regardless of differences.Political discourse challenges our ability to see the light in others.Restoration of betweenness is crucial for understanding and compassion.Faith is more about experience than mere belief in doctrines.Childlike wonder can reconnect us to the sacred.Edgewalkers can help envision a reimagined spiritual community.The divine exists within each of us.New beginnings in spirituality require openness to transformation.Key words: nature, spirituality, healing, connection, divine, pilgrimage, political discourse, faith, edgewalkers, sacredness, Wild Church, Edwin Muir, Victoria Loorz, Thomas Berry, Nan ShepherdFind us on our website: Earthkeepers Support the Earthkeepers podcast Check out the Ecological Disciple
Welcome to Season 5 of The Discomfort Practice! In this first interview of the new season, Betsy Reed is joined by Thea May, a communication coach for ‘Edgewalkers and soul-led leaders.' Together, they explore the theme of ‘edginess' and dive deep into the discomfort of breaking away from outdated communication norms to create a world where we can all thrive. Thea shares her journey, the power of embodying discomfort, and how to ‘scale ourselves to meet the messages that move through us.' This episode is packed with insights that will inspire you to embrace your own edges and communicate more authentically, but we're betting you'll feel like you were sitting at a kitchen table, just listening to friends. Key Moments: [00:01:05] - Betsy reflects on over three years of podcasting and introduces the theme of Season 5: Edginess. [00:01:54] - Introduction to Thea May, her work as a communication coach, and her unique approach to soul-led leadership. [00:06:06] - Thea shares a pivotal uncomfortable moment that shaped her journey as an Edgewalker. [00:13:49] - Thea discusses her name change from Dolly to Thea, representing a significant shift in her identity and work. [00:21:04] - Diving into the edges of communication, poetry, and identity as core elements of Thea's life and work. [00:30:06] - Thea introduces her three-part communication process: Tuning in, Hooking in, and Opening out. [00:32:15] - The power of confident introverts and the shift from power-over to power-with communication. [00:45:34] - The importance of scaling yourself to meet the size of your message. [00:51:03] - Betsy shares a personal story about receiving (the other) Betsy Reed's hate mail and what it taught her about resilience. [00:52:07] - Thea emphasises the importance of building confidence through low-risk discomfort practices. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to The Discomfort Practice on your favorite podcast platform, and don't forget to leave a 5-star rating and a written review. Your support helps us grow our community and reach more people who are ready to embrace the discomfort of growth. Follow us on Instagram @thebetsyreed for more behind-the-scenes content and updates. Let's get uncomfortable together…
Take The Edgewalker ProfileWork With AmyJoin me, Amy Lynn Durham, with Judi Neal, the President of Edgewalkers International, a workplace spiritual community and the author of ten books on workplace spirituality and transformation. Her recent books are Personal, Educational, and Organizational Transformation, published June 2023, and Inspiring Workplace Spirituality, to be published in Fall 2023. In this episode, we delve into the fascinating concept of being an Edgewalker and explore the profound spirituality accompanying this role. We discuss the importance of building bridges between two worlds within the workplace and how organizations that prioritize nurturing the human spirit experience more significant innovation, job satisfaction, and dedication. Our conversation highlights the criticality of spirituality in the workplace and investigates why some senior leaders ignore valuable data.Today on Create Magic At Work®:Learn what an Edgewalker is.How you can connect different worlds together as an EdgewalkerHow to be a change agent for the greater good.The role Edgewalkers can play in soul-broken organizations.Ways to cultivate playfulness at work and in life.QuoteIf someone's negative all the time and only complains and never brings anything to the conversation, I think there's an opportunity for development there. If they can't change, they would help create a toxic workplace. - Judi NealConnect with Judi:https://edgewalkers.org/https://www.gci.earth/https://www.facebook.com/judineal,https://twitter.com/Edgewalker22,https://www.linkedin.com/in/judi-neal-99a1027/Support the showConnect with Amy: https://msha.ke/createmagicatwork
In this episode, Paul Nixon and Beth Estock explore the concept of Edgewalking. Edgewalking church leaders have one foot firmly within the church, typically with strong core convictions and Christology, even as they engage with people beyond the church, gaining wisdom of perspective that helps the church in its mission. Beth and Paul are convinced that this Edgewalking concept is core to effective spiritual leadership in the 2020s. To learn more about Edgewalkers, see the 2006 book Edgewalkers by Judi Neal, and the daily meditation by Richard Rohr's team, written by Victoria Loorz, entitled Edge Walking.
Judi Neal, an inspirational global educator, and leader, encourages us to be Edgewalkers and to elevate our Global Consciousness. It does take courage to change for the better. Listening to Judi in this conversation with Dave, you may experience some of her positive energy right through your screen. Dave did.
Join me, Amy Lynn Durham, with Judi Neal, the President of Edgewalkers International, a workplace spiritual community and the author of ten books on workplace spirituality and transformation, a workplace spirituality community. Her recent books are Personal, Educational, and Organizational Transformation, published June 2023, and Inspiring Workplace Spirituality, to be published in Fall 2023. In this episode, we delve into the fascinating concept of being an edgewalker and explore the profound spirituality accompanying this role. We discuss the importance of building bridges between two worlds within the workplace and how organizations that prioritize nurturing the human spirit experience more significant innovation, job satisfaction, and dedication. Our conversation highlights the criticality of spirituality in the workplace and investigates why some senior leaders ignore valuable data.Today on Create Magic At Work®:Defining EdgewalkersSpirituality as a guiding forceBuilding bridges in the workplace as an edgewalkerThe power of inner wisdomEmbracing the edgewalker perspective as a leaderLeading with compassion and wisdomChange agents for the greater goodThe role of edgewalkers in soul-broken organizationsEmpowering voices and embracing authenticityCultivating playfulness QuoteIf someone's negative all the time and only complains and never brings anything to the conversation, I think there's an opportunity for development there. If they can't change, they would help create the toxic workplace. - Judi NealConnect with Judi:https://edgewalkers.org/https://www.gci.earth/https://www.facebook.com/judineal,https://twitter.com/Edgewalker22,https://www.linkedin.com/in/judi-neal-99a1027/Connect with Amy: https://msha.ke/createmagicatwork
Join me, Amy Lynn Durham, with Kristin Joy Ekkens, a TEDx Speaker, Culture x DEIB x Social Impact Thought Leader, Executive Coach, Entrepreneur, and Cultural Edgewalker. Her passion and area of expertise are helping individuals and organizations drive culturally intelligent innovation. In this episode, we discuss Edgewalkers in the workplace and how an Edgewalker can think outside the box and is willing to take risks to innovate and find new solutions to problems. We also dive into cultural intelligence for the workplace and describe the learned skills to obtain this title. Today on Create Magic At Work®:What is Cultural Intelligence for the WorkplaceFinding your super nodes in your organizationQualities of an EdgewalkerWhy human connection and kindness is important in the workplaceQuote"Knowledge is about understanding people's cultural differences and similarities. It's understanding their backgrounds, what the business systems look like, the religious systems look like in different cultures, all the different ways, even linguistics and language, and how that helps us see the world in a different way from our different language point of view. These are different things that we look at our own cultural values and that's knowledge." - Kristin Joy EkkensConnect with Kristin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinjoyekkens/https://www.instagram.com/kristinjoy_e/?hl=enhttps://www.exi.globalConnect with Amy: https://msha.ke/createmagicatwork
Joining us in circle are Tamara Herl and Judi Neal. These two change-makers share their wealth of wisdom on the importance of spirituality in leadership and the traits that the world is seeking. You want to be on this edge walking alongside these two. Join in to hear powerful stories and learn the tools to evolve your leadership journey. What's in this episode for you: The important role that spirituality plays in leadership What we are being called to step into as leaders The leadership qualities that we need now Tangible tools to help hone those skills and ways of being A vision for leadership that we can all get excited about Poem: Where the Sidewalk Ends by Shel Silverstein There is a place where the sidewalk ends And before the street begins, And there the grass grows soft and white, And there the sun burns crimson bright, And there the moon-bird rests from his flight To cool in the peppermint wind. Let us leave this place where the smoke blows black And the dark street winds and bends. Past the pits where the asphalt flowers grow We shall walk with a walk that is measured and slow, And watch where the chalk-white arrows go To the place where the sidewalk ends. Yes we'll walk with a walk that is measured and slow, And we'll go where the chalk-white arrows go, For the children, they mark, and the children, they know The place where the sidewalk ends. Who's in circle with us: Tamara Herl is a Licensed Professional Counselor, professionally trained Life Coach, Registered/Board Certified Art Therapist and Certified Forest Therapy Guide. What sets Tamara apart from other counselors and coaches is her ability to weave expressive practices such as visual art, journaling, and connection with nature into the experiences she facilitates. Connect with Tamara through, www.becomeyourownguru.com, Instagram and LinkedIn. Judi Neal is an author, a scholar, and a consultant on workplace spirituality. After receiving her Ph.D. from Yale, she worked in the corporate and academic world. She founded Edgewalkers International, a coaching and consulting firm. Judi is the author of eight books on workplace spirituality and transformation, including Edgewalkers. Connect with Judi through, www.edgewalkers.org, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and LinkedIn.
What do you get when you cross an academic with Chief Executive Adventurer? You get Dr Erika Jacobson from Edgewalkers. Erika walks miles and miles with fellow hiking and walking enthusiasts across beautiful landscapes within Western Australia and beyond. But we don’t just traverse landscapes in this interview. We cover the terrain of autoimmune conditions and specifically Orofacial Granulomatosis. Discover how Erika had to navigate teaching and presenting with this lip disfigurement for many years until it miraculously disappeared. Approx: 29 minWe talk about: · The issue of big lips without botox – Orofacial Granulomatosis· What it’s like living with an auto-immune condition· How Erika navigated her way teaching, lecturing and being in the public domain while managing her lip disfigurement· Mindset and vanity· Business resilience and COVID-19· The hallway of fear· Erika’s definition of courage Contact Dr Erika Jacobsonwww.edgewalkers.com.auLinkedIn: Erika JacobsonInsta: Edgewalkers_Facebook: Edgewalkers Interview: Sana TurnockProduced and edited by: Sana Turnock and Jamie Woods (Woods Media Lab)Auto mastering: Woods Media LabCopyright free music credits:Intro Apolllo - Patrick PatrikiosOutro Liquid Time - Aakash Gandhi If you’re inspired by these episodes, please leave a five-star rating review on Apple Podcasts Stitcher or Spotify. Make sure to hit ‘Subscribe’ so you never miss out on inspiring stories of courage.Find value in what I’m doing?Creating a podcast, where I get to share stories of strength, courage and resilience is a real privilege. It takes many hours and my own funds to produce the Courage Unravelled podcast that’s free and available to everyone. And it will continue to be that way. If you’ve enjoyed the podcast and would like to support me on my mission to build a Courage Unravelled community, you can receive exclusive benefits by becoming a Patreon supporter - https://www.patreon.com/courageunravelled?fan_landing=trueSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/courageunravelled)
To conclude our two part series on Fitzgerald River National Park we are once again joined by Dr Erika Jacobson from Edgewalkers to discuss the western side of the park. A Unesco Biosphere reserve, Fitzgerald River is renowned for its incredible biodiversity and stunning beaches that rival the more famous Cape Le Grand National Park. The more isolated western side of the park is home to the best overnight walks in the state, the Mamang Trail, along with the day hikes at West Mount Barren and the Point Ann Heritage Trail. Camping is available at St Marys Inlet where it is possible you will have the entire beach all to yourself.
This week we are joined by Dr. Erika Jacobson from Edgewalkers to discuss the east side of the spectacular Fitzgerald River National Park. A Unesco Biosphere reserved, Fitzgerald River is renowned for its incredible biodiversity and stunning beaches that rival the more famous Cape Le Grand National Park. For this first part of a two part mini-series, we discuss the walks on the eastern side of the park, including the rugged East Mount Barren and the Hakea Trail, which ranks as one of the best coastal overnight hikes in the country.
We are joined this episode by Dr Erika Jacobson from Edgewalkers to discuss the 135km Cape to Cape Track in the beautiful south west region of Western Australia. Following the journey from north to south, we discuss each day and what to expect from one of the best multi-day trails in Australia. From long beach stretches to stunning Karri forest to a variety of wonderful wildflowers, this trail has it all and is the perfect way to spend a week of your life.
This week on the Erotic Awakening Podcast Dan and dawn talk with Elwood about Edgewalkers. And they share their experience with flesh hooks! This one gets recorded with the end of the energy from this fantastic experience. PLUS Kitty Kavanaugh's bucket list! Tags? Oh yea we got tags! #fleshhooks #ritual Don't miss an episode! Click below to subscribe
This week the Beast chats with Stormy on Renegade’s Rendezvous and other kinky events. Here is their profile profile… Stormy and his girl, Nichole, live a 24/7 M/s life. They are members of Edgewalkers, which is a group that practices and facilitates body based rituals such as hook pulls, hook suspensions and fire walks. Stormy is the President of the Edge Riders Evergreen Chapter a BDSM which is motorcycle riding club based on the principles of a leather family and community service. Together they are devoted to their family, friends and community. They are the producers of Renegades’ Rendezvous, a four- day BDSM/kinky campout. Education is important to them and they teach a wide variety of classes from technical to relationship to spiritual. A full listing of their classes can be found on their Metlife profiles. Known for his edge play, Stormy can often be found in a dungeon; knife, scalpel or barbwire flogger in hand. His motto is, “I give and give until it hurts.” http://www.kinkycast.com/archive/2017-archive/187---renegade--team-fluffy.html
Crazy is seeing something that no one else can see and the willingness to jump in with both feet to make it happen, because you just know it will make the world a better place. And when you turn out to be right, then they call you brilliant! Judi Neal is Chairman and CEO of Edgewalkers International http://edgewalkers.org Previously she was Director of the Tyson Center for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace at the Sam M. Walton College of Business, University of Arkansas, and is currently She is recognized as an expert on spirituality in the workplace and speaks and consults internationally. Her research focuses on business leaders who have a strong commitment to their faith and spirituality, and began studying how they bridged the spiritual world and the material world of business. She is author of Edgewalkers: People and Organizations that Take Risks, Build Bridges and Break New Ground; co-authored The Spirit of Project Management with Alan Harpham; and is editor of the Handbook of Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace. She recently published her fourth book titled Creating Enlightened Organizations: Four Gateways to Spirit at Work. Her next book is The Handbook of Personal and Organizational Transformation. She has published widely in academic journals and has created an international community of Edgewalkers.
Judi Neal, Ph.D., is the author of Edgewalkers: People and Organizations That Take Risks, Build Bridges and Break New Ground. Join us for an insightful conversation.