Spirituality in Leadership

What does it mean to lead with both purpose and integrity in a world that often separates the spiritual from the professional?In this thought-provoking episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn sits down with John Mitchell, a leadership development consultant, coach, and fellow "recovering lawyer," to explore the intersection of spirituality, faith, and effective leadership. John shares his unique journey—from growing up in a military family with broad exposure to diverse faiths, to his current work helping leaders align their actions with their deepest values.  The conversation explores the challenges of congruence—ensuring one's behavior aligns with one's stated beliefs—and the importance of interconnectedness as a guiding principle in leadership. John offers practical insights for leaders across sectors, from corporate executives to faith leaders, on how to navigate hypocrisy, foster inclusivity, and make decisions rooted in integrity.  Whether you're a corporate executive, faith leader, or purpose-driven professional, this episode offers powerful, practical wisdom on navigating ethical dilemmas, embracing inclusivity, and making value-aligned decisions in complex environments. Listen now to discover how spirituality can be a strength—not a side note—in leadership. Key TakeawaysFaith and spirituality aren't the same—but often overlap.Congruence matters. Leadership credibility stems from living your values consistently, not just preaching them.Leaders need mirrors. Coaches can help by reflecting back a leader's own values—especially during moments of self-doubt or hubris.The best leaders check themselves. High-integrity leaders actively ask, “Are my actions aligned with my beliefs?”Inclusiveness grows from spiritual awareness. A belief in interconnectedness leads to more inclusive and effective leadership.Discernment is not judgment. Leaders must evaluate situations with clarity without falling into prejudice or rigidity.In This Episode:[00:00] Introduction: Faith vs. spirituality[03:00] John's childhood, military upbringing, and multifaith exposure[06:00] Spirituality through the lens of connection and nature[10:00] Diversity, integration, and spiritual evolution[13:00] Coaching faith leaders and guiding them through their own frameworks[18:00] The danger of ego and the pedestal problem[24:00] Leading with integrity—lessons from a transportation executive[30:00] Self-checks and internal congruence as a leadership discipline[36:00] Discernment vs. judgment in decision-making[39:00] Leadership in law firms and the challenge of tough decisions[41:00] Closing reflections and where to find John onlineResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406John MitchellLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thepurplecoachAndrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe

In this episode of Spirituality in Leadership, host Andrew Cohn sits down with Allison Schultz, coach, writer, and co-founder of Reboot—to explore a deeper, more human-centered approach to leadership.At Reboot, coaching goes beyond developing managerial skills. It's about transformation—helping leaders access their full humanity through radical self-inquiry, embodied presence, and spiritual integration.Drawing from her rich background, including a master's in Religious Studies, a lifelong bond with horses, and her new book The Art of Being Human at Work,  Ali shares candid stories and powerful insights. She speaks openly about how childhood emotional invisibility and early discomfort with corporate norms shaped her path. Her connection with horses, which she describes as a sacred devotional practice, has deeply informed her understanding of relational intelligence and inner work.Together, Andrew and Ali explore how spirituality, shadow work, and embodiment can shift the very foundation of how we lead and show up in the workplace.Key TakeawaysThe connection between early family dynamics and later leadership patternsWhy Religious Studies offers a surprisingly practical lens for coachingHow horses taught Ali the power of presence, embodiment, and devotionThe sacred importance of shadow work in leadership developmentWhy “making peace with your shadows” is foundational to authentic leadershipHow The Art of Being Human at Work bridges spiritual depth with professional growthThe impact of edited spiritual traditions—and what was left outHow journaling and reflection support sustained leadership growthLeadership as a relational and inner-development practice—not performanceIn This Episode:[00:00] Opening reflections on coaching and religious studies[01:05] Meet Ali Schultz: co-founder of Reboot and horsewoman-philosopher[03:48] Her early tension with work and the seeds of integration[07:53] The practicality of a Religious Studies degree for coaching[11:20] Horses and embodiment: a devotional relationship[15:25] Growing up emotionally unseen—and being witnessed by animals[18:45] Do coaches talk enough about religion and meaning?[22:23] Turning blog essays into a leadership wisdom book[24:37] Parker Palmer quote + spiritual wisdom in the workplace[26:52] How to use the book + journaling for integration[28:44] Reboot's approach to coaching and shadow work[33:55] The sacred act of holding space as a coach[36:59] Where to learn more: Reboot.io and beyond Resources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Allison SchultzWebsite:             https://www.reboot.io/Book:             The Art of Being Human at WorkLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alschultzAndrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe

In this thought-provoking episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, Andrew Cone  Cohn is joined by Dr. Erika Kleestorfer, a seasoned leadership consultant and executive coach. With over two decades of experience in corporate leadership development, Dr. Kleestorfer offers invaluable insights into the intersection of spirituality and leadership. She shares her unique perspective on how understanding one's essence, core values, and inner light can help leaders navigate challenges and inspire teams to thrive.Drawing on her extensive experience working with global organizations including IBM, Dr. Kleestorfer explains how spirituality in leadership is not just a concept, but a practice that enhances business success, team cohesion, and individual fulfillment. From creating a safe space for emotional growth to utilizing frameworks like the PERMA model, this episode provides both spiritual wisdom and practical tools for leaders at all levels.Key TakeawaysHow understanding your true essence as a leader can transform your team and organizationThe importance of asking deep, reflective questions to uncover core values and beliefsHow to cultivate trust and emotional safety within teams to foster open and honest conversationsThe connection between root cause analysis and spiritual leadership in navigating complex challengesWhy the PERMA model is essential in fostering positive workplace climates and employee well-beingThe impact of generational shifts on leadership and how younger employees are changing the workplace dynamicsPractical tools for integrating spirituality and leadership to achieve both personal and organizational growthIn This Episode:[00:00] Introduction to Dr. Erika Kleestorfer and her background[03:07] The essence of spirituality in leadership[05:23] Key questions for leaders to ask themselves and their teams[07:46] The connection between emotional intelligence and effective leadership[10:25] How leaders can foster a culture of openness and trust[14:17] The PERMA model and its application in leadership[18:45] Adapting to the changing workforce and generational shifts in leadership[23:10] Practical steps for integrating spirituality into corporate leadership[28:05] Closing thoughts on leadership and spiritual growthResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Dr. Erika KleestorferWebsite: www.kleestorfer.comPodcast: Alles Liebe, Erika – Podcast on SpotifyWorkshop: Transformational Leadership JourneyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/erikamariakleestorfer/Andrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe

How can one's personal experiences with life and meaning translate into corporate leadership and a legacy of meaning? In this powerful conversation on the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, Andrew Cohn sits down with Steve Hart, educator, leadership coach, musician, and former executive at the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, to explore the deep connection between the human spirit, meaningful work, and adaptive leadership.Steve opens up about a transformative near-death experience that reshaped his entire life, and how that moment of awakening fuels his mission to infuse workplaces with soul, trust, and purpose. Steve brings wisdom, warmth, and clarity from his early days as a special education teacher to leading large-scale cultural shifts in government and nonprofit organizations.You'll hear about the surprising lessons leadership can take from nature (particularly Zoysia grass!), how reflection becomes a gateway to growth, and why trust is the bedrock of real transformation. Whether you're leading a team or navigating your inner shift, this episode is a blueprint for blending practical leadership with deeper personal truth.Key TakeawaysWhy leadership starts with trust, not tacticsThe “warrior and artist” polarity is one that every great leader must balanceSteve's near-death experience and how it sparked a lifelong transformationHow to lead organizational culture shifts with empathy and visionWhat quantum physics and zoysia grass can teach us about changeThe role of reflection and safe spaces in leadership developmentHow places like Cranaleith Spiritual Center (https://cranaleith.org) offer renewal for leaders and frontline workers alikeIn This Episode:[00:00] Introduction and near-death experience[00:14] Leadership foundations in special education[00:34] Podcast introduction and guest overview[01:09] Steve Hart's leadership journey[03:20] Connecting spirituality and leadership[05:23] Special education insights and leadership[10:20] Transforming leadership at the Federal Reserve[20:21] Personal transformation and near-death experience[27:11] Spiritual experiences and family connections[27:49] Discovering Life After Life[28:14] Introduction to Cran Oleth[28:25] The history and mission of Cranaleith[30:20] Personal reflections and leadership at Cran Oleth[32:58] Connecting spirituality with corporate leadership[42:43] Adaptive leadership and organizational change[48:34] Final thoughts and resourcesResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Steve HartWebsite: https://www.theprofessionaldevelopmentgroup.com/Cranaleith Spiritual Center: https://cranaleith.org/Andrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe

In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn sits down with Gino Peremans, a men's work expert and leadership coach from Belgium. Gino's journey is both gripping and inspiring—from a challenging childhood to becoming a mentor for men seeking to break free from societal expectations. He shares how he went from feeling lost and disconnected to creating spaces where men can rediscover their true selves.Gino dives deep into the importance of vulnerability, connection, and building healthy communities of men. He talks about the retreats he leads—transformative experiences where men step away from the pressures of performance and status to embrace their inner lives. But this isn't just theory; Gino offers practical tools to bring this mindset into your personal and professional life. Whether you're leading a team, a family, or just yourself, his insights are game-changing.This conversation is for anyone who's ever felt the weight of pretending to be someone they're not. Gino's message is clear: true leadership starts with authenticity. Tune in to discover how you can step into a new kind of strength—one rooted in vulnerability, connection, and your truest self.Key TakeawaysExploration of men's work and healthy masculinityChallenges men face regarding vulnerability and societal expectationsImportance of creating deeper connections and conversations among menPersonal journey and experiences of the guest related to emotional expressionSocietal pressures on men to perform and provideThe concept of brotherhood and support among menImpact of modern distractions, such as social media, on genuine connectionsEstablishing safe spaces for men to share vulnerabilitiesThe role of curiosity and reflection in personal growthThe potential ripple effects of men's work on families and communitiesIn This Episode:[00:00] Introduction to addiction and external validation  [01:09] Meet Gino: background and professional journey  [08:41] Gino's personal journey and struggles  [14:21] The role of vulnerability and brotherhood in men's work  [17:32] Challenges of modern masculinity and distraction  [22:22] Challenges faced by executives and managers  [23:25] The concept of a healthy tribe  [24:28] Building a sense of community  [25:22] Encouraging vulnerability and personal sharing  [29:02] Introducing Gentle Giants[32:15] Practical tools for corporate settings  [35:32] Reconnecting with the body  [38:17] Conclusion and resources Resources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spirituality-in-leadership/id1713365406Gino PeremansWebsite: https://www.ginoperemans.com/LinkedIn:https://be.linkedin.com/in/ginoperemansAndrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe

In this episode of Spirituality in Leadership, host Andrew Cohn sits down with Judi Neal, a pioneer in workplace spirituality and the force behind the Tyson Center for Faith and Spirituality and Edgewalkers International. Judi opens up about her personal journey, including her time at Honeywell, where she took a stand as a whistleblower—an experience that reshaped her understanding of integrity, trust, and spiritual resilience.Together, Andrew and Judi explore how spirituality can transform leadership and workplace culture, making organizations more compassionate, ethical, and inclusive. Drawing insights from her books Inspiring Workplace Spirituality, Edgewalkers, and Creating Enlightened Organizations, Judi shares practical ways to integrate faith and spirituality into daily work life—no matter your beliefs.This conversation is for anyone looking to lead with greater purpose, foster a more inclusive workplace, or simply navigate their career with a deeper sense of meaning. Key TakeawaysIntegration of spirituality into leadership and business practicesThe concept of blessings in the workplace and recognizing inherent valuePersonal experiences and stories related to workplace spiritualityThe ethical dilemma faced by a whistleblower and its impact on personal valuesThe importance of aligning personal values with professional responsibilitiesFostering a culture of appreciation, trust, and community in organizationsThe transformative power of spirituality in creating ethical and compassionate work environmentsImpact of spirituality on leadership styles and organizational cultureThe concept of "edge walkers" as individuals bridging material and spiritual worldsMindfulness and self-reflection as tools for effective leadershipAddressing skepticism and resistance to spirituality in professional contextsResources and frameworks for implementing spirituality in organizationsIn This Episode:(00:00:01) Introduction to appreciative inquiry  (00:01:09) Introduction of Judi Neal  (00:03:28) Reading from Inspiring Workplace Spirituality(00:04:48) Moment of silence  (00:06:05) Concept of blessing  (00:07:26) Transforming judgment to blessing  (00:10:07) Impact of workplace negativity  (00:10:52) Appreciative inquiry practice  (00:11:00) Discussion on blessing and religion  (00:12:39) Cultural creative study insights  (00:14:45) Judi's journey into spirituality  (00:15:49) Whistleblower experience at Honeywell  (00:16:51) Moral dilemma in the workplace  (00:20:46) Spiritual awakening  (00:23:24) Consequences of whistleblowing  (00:24:33) Spiritual awakening and connection (00:26:35) Legal action against Honeywell  (00:28:44) Teaching management and tokenism(00:31:10) Common themes among leaders  (00:33:23) Reception of spirituality in the workplace  (00:33:49) Defining religion, spirituality, and faith  (00:35:48) Building bridges between worldviews  (00:39:14) Authenticity and trust in organizations  (00:39:59) Creating space for conversations  (00:41:26) Practices for opening doors to meaning   (00:43:47) Inspirational reading assignments  (00:46:47) Eileen Fisher's personal growth initiative  (00:48:04) Spirituality as a dimension of diversity  (00:51:04) Offering options for spiritual practices  (00:52:04) Gateways to workplace spirituality    (00:57:00) Gratitude and invitation  Resources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership PodcastSpirituality in LeadershipJudi NealLinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/judi-neal-99a1027Book:https://www.amazon.com/Inspiring-Workplace-Spirituality-Future-Work/dp/1837536155Book: https://www.amazon.com/Creating-Enlightened-Organizations-Gateways-Spirit/dp/1137335157Book: https://www.amazon.com/Edgewalkers-People-Organizations-Bridges-Ground/dp/0275989208Andrew CohnWebsite: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe

What if the most effective and fulfilled leaders aren't just those with the sharpest strategies or the best data, but those who tap into something deeper—something instinctive? Could the true power of leadership lie in embracing intuition, somatic awareness, and the ability to create nurturing environments? What if leadership goes beyond tactics and dives into the realm of self-awareness, authenticity, and inner wisdom?In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn and Alicia Rodriguez, a coach and consultant based in the Algarve, Portugal, discuss the profound integration of spirituality in leadership. Alicia shares her expertise on how leaders can cultivate intuition and somatic awareness guiding them through experiential learning in nature and using innovative tools like sound healing and creative exercises. Together, Andrew and Alicia explore how these practices can help leaders not only embody their values but also navigate challenges with greater clarity, confidence, and impact.Alicia reflects on her transformative journey in Ecuador, where she learned from a shaman, and she touches on the insights found in her book, The Shaman's Wife. Alicia also emphasizes the vital importance of rest, stillness, and creating the right conditions for success, all while inspiring personal and professional transformation.Tune in to discover how embracing intuition, somatic awareness, and spiritual practices can elevate your leadership style and bring deeper meaning to your work. Key Takeaways The significance of intuition and somatic awareness in leadership. The impact of immersing ourselves in nature on developing intuitive abilities. The importance of congruence between a leader's values and actions. The use of experiential learning in nature to enhance self-awareness. Incorporation of healing modalities, such as sound therapy, in leadership coaching. The concept of "Becoming Limitless" and transcending self-imposed limits. The necessity of granting permission for emotional expression and authenticity.The transformative power of creative exploration and reframing perspectives on challenges.In This Episode: (00:00:00) – Understanding intuition (00:00:20) – Nurturing intuition (00:00:35) – Podcast introduction (00:01:09) – Meet Alicia (00:01:33) – Value of intuition (00:02:43) – Somatic awareness (00:03:50) – Indigenous wisdom (00:04:01) – Spirituality and leadership (00:06:44) – Inner and outer games (00:07:01) – Congruence in leadership (00:08:39) – Examples of incongruence (00:11:02) – Personal story (00:14:06) – Honoring dreams (00:15:18) – Greater awareness (00:19:14) – Sensing and leadership (00:21:12) – Developing intuition (00:21:56) – Becoming limitless (00:23:07) – Nature as a collaborator (00:24:29) – Opening up to new experiences (00:25:07) – Getting out of our heads (00:25:56) – Permission to access senses (00:27:54) – Curiosity and limitless possibilities (00:28:39) – Imagination over knowledge (00:29:06) – Emotional transformation (00:29:52) – The importance of rest in leadership (00:31:07) – Catalysts for personal reflection (00:32:06) – Introduction to the book (00:32:18) – Personal loss and career disillusionment (00:34:23) – Meeting the shaman (00:35:27) – Creating conditions for success (00:38:11) – The book's availability (00:39:08) – Sharing essays and writing (00:40:48) – Closing remarks on wisdom sharing (00:41:10) – Podcast conclusionResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership Podcast Spirituality in LeadershipAlicia Rodriguez Website: https://aliciamrodriguez.com/ Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/msaliciamrodriguez/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MsAliciaMRodriguez/ Book:https://aliciamrodriguez.com/the-shamans-wifeAndrew Cohn Website: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music:  Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe

Like it or not, leadership isn't just about making decisions and getting things done—it's about how you get things done. Productivity without purpose leads to burnout, while purpose without action leaves potential unfulfilled. What if the secret to stress-free leadership lies in balancing both?In this episode ofSpirituality in Leadership, host Andrew Cohn sits down with David Allen, the mastermind behindGetting Things Done: The Art of Stress-Free Productivity. Together, they explore the intersection of leadership, authenticity, and inner guidance, revealing how GTD principles can help leaders not only manage their workload but also lead with clarity, trust, and intention.From overcoming overwhelm to embracing the “still small voice” within, this conversation offers powerful insights on how leaders can create an environment of engagement, psychological safety, and true effectiveness. Whether you're a seasoned executive or just starting your leadership journey, this episode will challenge you to rethink productivity—not just as a tool for efficiency but as a pathway to deeper fulfillment and impact.Ready to transform the way you lead? Tune in now and discover how to integrate stress-free productivity with authentic leadership. Don't forget to subscribe, share the episode, and let us know your biggest takeaway in the comments!Key TakeawaysThe intersection of spirituality and leadershipHow authenticity boosts engagement and trust within teamsThe importance of accepting current realitiesThe balance between personal productivity and collaborationThe role of inner guidance in decision-makingManaging leadership challenges and information overloadBuilding psychological safety in teamsClarity of purpose and direction in leadershipTrust, vulnerability, and authenticity in leadership dynamicsIntegrating spiritual wisdom with practical productivity strategiesTeaching productivity principles to the next generationIn This Episode:(00:04) – Welcome and introduction(00:36) – Meet David Allen(01:39) – Authenticity in leadership(02:47) – Embracing the current reality(03:57) – Tuning into your “still small voice”(04:51) – Balancing practical and spiritual approaches(06:01) – Understanding authenticity(08:11) – The cost of inauthenticity(09:11) – Developing your authentic self(10:30) – The significance of embracing the current reality(12:07) – Managing overwhelm as a leader(14:29) – Tools vs. authenticity(15:03) – Encouraging authentic leadership in others(16:07) – Framework for authentic conversations(19:17) – The importance of vulnerability and trust(20:36) – Engagement and leadership(21:21) – Spirituality's role in leadership(21:30) – The power of spirit in leadership decisions(23:16) – Authenticity and shifting perspectives(25:48) – Revisiting the “still small voice”(27:13) – Trusting your inner wisdom(28:45) – The power of intention in leadership(29:00) – Drifting vs. intentionality in leadership(30:38) – Acceptance and cooperation(31:54) – Efficient use of energy(32:54) – Completion and creation(34:55) – GTD for teens(36:34) – Integration of wisdomResources and LinksSpirituality in Leadership PodcastSpirituality in LeadershipDavid AllenWebsite:https://gettingthingsdone.com/LinkedIn: https://nl.linkedin.com/company/david-allen-companyX:https://x.com/gtdguy?lang=en&mx=2Book:https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Things-Done-Stress-Free-Productivity/dp/0142000280Andrew CohnWebsite:https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/Music: Kodiak:https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe

In this thought-provoking episode of the Spirituality in Leadership Podcast, host Andrew Cohn delves into key themes and insights from previous episodes, weaving together lessons on spirituality and leadership. With heartfelt gratitude for the diverse perspectives shared by past guests, Andrew explores the intersection of personal effectiveness, leadership impact, and the integration of spirituality into professional practice.  Andrew emphasizes the importance of aligning with personal values, embracing cultural awareness, and drawing inspiration from nature to cultivate resilience and creativity. Drawing on rich examples from his executive coaching experience, he offers reflective questions to inspire listeners to examine how their own experiences, values, and beliefs shape their leadership style and personal growth. This episode invites a deeper exploration of what it means to lead with purpose and authenticity. Key Takeaways Reflection on key themes from previous discussions about spirituality and leadership. Importance of personal values in leadership. Cultural awareness and its role in effective leadership. Integration of spirituality into leadership practices. The impact of nature on resilience and creativity. Examples from executive coaching and team alignment work. Diverse perspectives from various guests on meaningful work and relationships. Encouragement for listeners to engage in self-reflection and personal growth. The significance of authenticity and connection in leadership. Practical application of discussed themes in real-world scenarios. In This Episode: (00:00:00) Introduction to individual reflection (00:00:26) Gratitude for guests (00:01:26) Discussion of guest topics (00:02:45) Inspirational nature of conversations (00:05:07) Quotes and themes of service (00:06:23) Cultural awareness in leadership (00:08:53) Nature's role in resilience (00:10:22) Client work examples (00:13:06) Team dynamics and values (00:14:24) Practicality over buzzwords (00:15:33) Reflective questions for leadership (00:18:11) Conclusion and call to action Resources and Links Spirituality in Leadership Podcast Spirituality in Leadership Andrew Cohn Website: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/ MusicKodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe

Aikido is more than a martial art—it's a way of navigating life's challenges with grace and resilience. In this episode, Andrew Cohn speaks with his friend, colleague, and mentor, Chris Thorsen, a longtime practitioner of Aikido and its “off the mat” applications. Chris shares his powerful story, starting with his use of haiku as a tool for recovery after serving in the Vietnam War. This practice connected him with a Zen master who guided him for 30 years. Aikido, Chris explains, provided him the strength to thrive as a crisis counselor, even during years consulting with guards at San Quentin prison. Later, he introduced Aikido as a healing tool to a business leader and combat helicopter pilot processing trauma, sparking a transformative professional connection. Chris reflects on his journey as a “medic in the corporate world,” integrating Aikido and deep dialogue into leadership development and culture building. This conversation offers profound insights into the intersection of personal growth, leadership, and operational effectiveness.

In our increasingly disconnected world, recognizing our interconnectedness across cultures and in the workplace is more important than ever. In this episode of the podcast, Andrew Cohn speaks with Yoko Hisano, a clinical therapist and healer in the Boston area. Yoko shares her experience growing up in Japan and in Texas, working in human resources in Japan, and in higher education in the U.S. before moving into clinical therapy work. She talks about her experience across cultures, and about engaging people in important conversations that relate to connecting. The theme of interconnectedness comes through clearly in this conversation, which Yoko describes as a spiritual theme. In a very simple and clear way, she talks about aspiring to inspire people to connect to what brings them joy.

In this conversation, Andrew Cohn talks a second time with Martin Rutte, one of the pioneers in the field of spirituality in business, and more recently the author of the book, Project Heaven on Earth. Martin begins the conversation by sharing the three key questions that each of us can consider in order to begin to create heaven on earth—as each of us defines it. He also reflects back Andrew‘s answers to these questions and what that might mean for him. Martin describes his book as a blueprint of discovering what heaven on earth means for us, and the steps each of us can take to begin to bring it to life. He describes the seven gateways to heaven on earth, and shares stories that bring these powerful themes and ideas to life. He challenges us to consider where we might be “out“ of heaven and earth with ourselves. Martin talks about his belief that humanity is at a fork in the road, and it is by tapping into these bigger personal questions that we can navigate in the right direction.

In this episode of the podcast, Andrew speaks with his colleague, friend, and mentor Tom Hurley, a very experienced leadership development consultant, about how we can be transparent to what's most true for us as they explore the connection between spirituality and leadership, a topic Tom has been exploring for decades. Tom talks about his personal experience through a variety of dimensions, about how he defines spirituality, and about the importance of focusing on how we connect with our guidance. Tom says the most important invitation is for us to explore what is most deeply true for us and how this inquiry is fundamentally mysterious. This conversation is laced with wisdom and inspiration and invites us to consider how we can live lives that are more fulfilled and have a more positive impact on the world, even if we are operating in a challenging business paradigm that might sometimes make us confront our deepest personal values.

In this episode of the podcast, Andrew Cohn speaks with Karen and Matt Fine—business leaders, parents, and community contributors in Norfolk, Virginia. This is a conversation about simpler applications of spirituality in family and at work. Matt and Karen talk about their journeys, the impact of their personal spirituality in their household, and their work in the world. This broad conversation is full of wisdom and insight. The Fines are humble as they express their beliefs and their experience, however they offer a number of inspiring stories and invite us to use our experience and our inspiration to help us leave a positive “wake” as leaders in the world.

In this episode of the podcast, Andrew talks with Chetan Roy, who has held various positions in IT leadership in the banking sector in India, after working for many years outside India. Chetan shares some of his personal stories, including the experience of landing on a challenging first day in the US when he went abroad for the first time to attend university in New York. Chetan has deep knowledge of Hinduism, yoga, and other traditions and practices, and he shares some of his wisdom and experience about the connection between yoga practices and business leadership practices. He has a way of gently and practically distilling wisdom which comes through clearly as he shares his experience. This is a conversation across continents, cultures, and religions—and reinforces the universality of connection and personal values in leadership.

In this episode of the podcast, Andrew speaks with Barney Singer, a social change leader with many decades of multidisciplinary experience in social development—in both the public and private sectors. Barney talks about his work, particularly in Sub-Saharan Africa, and how he brings a spiritual framework to his program, design, and delivery, as well as in his supervision of others. He shares a number of examples of the impact of his work and the impact of his belief system and approach on those whom his programs serve. Barney shares his wisdom very comfortably with the voice of both an expert and a “lifelong seeker."

In this episode of the podcast, Andrew speaks with Aaron Hurst, author of the prominent book, The Purpose Economy, (2014). Aaron is a researcher, author, and social entrepreneur who is dedicated to driving positive societal change. He talks about his research, defining, cultivating, and leveraging purpose. Importantly, Aaron shares the four myths of purpose, as well as the importance of recognizing the diversity of purpose on any team. He also talks about the impact of a purpose mindset in the workplace, as opposed to a transactional mindset. This is a very practical and inviting conversation about what purpose really is, why it matters, and what steps leaders can take to cultivate it.

Zhou Fang is a diversity, equity and inclusion practitioner in the Pacific Northwest who uses her multicultural and multilingual background to support her clients. She comes from a very different background than our other podcast guests, and she talks very practically about what spirituality means for her, and how she uses it to support her when things feel hard and dark. As she says, her spirituality supports her in demonstrating compassion. In very practical language, she says we practice leadership because we want to do good in the world and spirituality can help with that. At the end of the day, leadership is about the heart, and her spirituality supports her in reconnecting with her heart to be more effective in working with others.

In this episode, Andrew speaks with executive coach and Catholic Deacon Jean-Christophe Normand. Jean-Christophe shares his personal journey of reconnecting with his childhood faith and discusses how his beliefs shape his coaching and leadership work. This conversation explores the impact of strong personal convictions and delves into the formation and development of meaningful relationships.

If you agree that healing is for everyone, this conversation will challenge you to push the limit of what seems like a no-brainer position. What about people who many would consider unsavory? Do they deserve healing as much as the rest of us do? In this episode, Andrew speaks with Sean Harvey, a man who is committed to providing compassionate to men—often in the most challenging environments. Sean and Andrew talk about what conditions need to be present for deep men's healing to occur, the importance of profound storytelling, and the powerful impact of this work. Sean‘s background in the corporate world and in a monastery help provide him with a broad and practical approach to healing...and the conversation gives us a glimpse into the important work Sean is doing in the world. Tune in for more!

In this episode of the podcast, Andrew flies solo and reflects upon some of the learnings gleaned from the first nine months of the podcast. Some steady themes are identified and explored. Andrew dives into his definition of presence and the practical importance of presence from leaders in the business world. He also talks about his experience as an Aikido practitioner in bringing presence to life, consistent with his priorities and values.

In this episode of the podcast, Andrew Cohn speaks with James McPherson, an attorney, business leader, and deeply devout Christian. James shares his experience with finding his faith, as well as some stories about the impact of choices he made to honor his faith in the context of his work life. The conversation largely focuses on servant leadership and what that means through the lens of faith. James' point of view and energy are humble, patient, deeply faith-based, and inspirational. His experiences are beautiful leadership lessons and he tells them with enthusiasm and gratitude. Near the end of the conversation, James answers the question, “How can we make it easier for people to bring the conviction of their faith into their leadership?” The answer involves developing self-awareness and humility, as well as getting to know one's team. To learn more about James: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-r-mcpherson-jd-mba-5a67a3b/ Music Credit: Kodiak https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe?si=dqdW71OISZOS8BYm-B4JNg&preview=none

In this episode, Andrew speaks with Kirk Souder, a branding and marketing leader and executive coach. Kirk's work focuses on generating higher levels of creativity and innovation in organizations and their leaders. He believes that business has great power to change the world and that what is needed is to access the “higher gears“ of spirituality. Kirk references Howard Thurman and says, “Don't ask what the world needs. Ask what brings you alive, and go do it. Because what the world needs is more people brought alive.” It is the responsibility of leaders to support their people to identify and nourish what brings them alive. This is all about shifting mindsets, opening to a recognition of possibilities.Kirk shares the story of his client at Mattel who chose to trust her calling and to feed that which brings her alive. This client ultimately spearheaded the diversification of the Barbie doll, which laid the foundation for the recent Barbie movie. This is a very practical and inspiring conversation.

In this in-depth and very practical conversation, Andrew speaks with longtime human resources leader and leadership consultant Marcos Cajina, who is based in Madrid, Spain. Marcos talks about his personal journey and how he became a student of spirituality. He discusses the connection between spirituality and leadership--very practically--including identifying the impact of spirituality on high-performance leadership.Marcos discusses several specific "laws of spirit," which are extremely clear and operational. He's a terrific teacher and guide on topics of spirituality and leadership behavior. And as he says, "Business is very practical." About Marcos Cajina:https://renewalcompany.com/marcos-cajina/ https://renewalcompany.comMusic Credit: Kodiak

There are many dimensions of leadership, each of which contributes meaningfully to one's effectiveness. The most challenging circumstances demand that leaders be resourceful and use all of their resources, including their bodies. This is the expertise of my guest, Kimberly Arnold. Kimberly is an expert in somatic leadership. As she describes it, it is important to understand how each of us can help our bodies act as an ally to support us, which may include shifting our own energy to be more effective, or even changing the dynamics in a room full of colleagues. Kimberly shares some of her regular practices that help her shift from a contracted state to a more expanded state which allows for more strategic thinking and productive behaviors. She also presents some of the ways she supports groups to reduce tension and facilitate constructive conversation and issue resolution. Finally, she discusses using nature as a resource for grounding and balancing and as a source of spiritual connection. I hope you enjoy this very practical, constructive, and inspiring conversation.

Dr. James Smith Jr. is all about people; developing, empowering, energizing, motivating people. In our conversation, he shares some of his personal story with his typical upbeat, energizing and practical style. He talks about some of his experiences with his son as a teacher and some of the shifts he needed to make in himself, relying upon what he called his spiritual foundation. James shares the importance of listening. He shares a beautiful story of learning across cultures and the opportunities that can happen from being open to asking questions, using the power of curiosity. He often talks about "possibility thinking," as well as how vulnerability and authenticity are required of leaders in today's workplace. As he says, leaders might get dirty leaning into this kind of listening, but leadership is not a beauty contest. We need to do it. Leadership is about inviting powerful conversations, and that means leaders need to let go of the need to be “right” and focus on being curious. He uses a beautiful metaphor about understanding what parts of ourselves are in our front seat, backseat and trunk as if our consciousness were a vehicle. The best leaders, he says, are the ones who are able to slide into the front seat with us to connect and build trust, which is in large part earned by sharing their own stories. James reminds us that seeking a deep understanding of another with the intention of connecting and supporting is, in fact, a spiritual practice. And each such meaningful conversation creates safety. He also reminds us that we "make deposits" with each positive conversation with openness and curiosity. Finally, he encourages everyone to do what scares them the most, to jump every day, as a way to live life fully.

Naren Balasubramaniam has been a healthcare executive for many years, occupying a variety of leadership roles across geographies and functions. His personal experience with spirituality and with leadership has provided him with a fascinating perspective about how our spirituality can be nourished and applied in organizational life. In this episode, Naren speaks with Andrew about his powerful and insightful points of view, how organizations might begin to design leadership roles with caring at their core, and how his new public benefit corporation is working to address childhood mental health issues, leveraging his purpose, while standing up a viable business entity. Tune in for more!

Leslie Boyer has been a valued consultant and guide for people around the world for several decades. Her work helps people live their lives with authenticity and courage, changing perspectives so as to live the best versions of themselves. In this interview, she talks with Andrew about her background in teaching in challenging environments and where her intention to serve has led her. She also talks about the impact of deep listening as well as storytelling to create genuine human connections. Her purpose-driven work about "growing the bigger parts of ourselves" is practical and powerful in many ways.

This fascinating conversation focuses on the deeper dimensions of providing services to people with intellectual disabilities. Andrew speaks with David Swain, the CEO of Endeavour Foundation, a provider of support services and employment to people living with disabilities in Queensland, Australia. David talks about caring in action, recognizing the inherent worth of the people being served, with a focus on making impact rather than making money. At the same time, David talks about the need to speak the language of business when running a large organization. He leads us into the intersection of purpose-driven action and leadership, the key things that allow him to create a greater impact organizationally and individually. David also talks about the need to focus on and measure the being level at work, not just the doing. He serves as a wonderful inspiration for those of us trying to make a greater impact with our work in the world.

We have been conditioned to think that spirituality is not something we could bring to work. It's something we leave at the door, never to be spoken about in the halls of business and professionalism. But as we'll see later, this is a huge missed opportunity for all stakeholders involved. In this episode, we are joined by Martin Rutte, a pioneer in the intersection of business and spirituality. Martin shares his journey into this transformative space, revealing a pivotal moment at an Indian monastery that sparked a realization about the absence of spirituality in his life. However, as Rutte navigated the resistance, he discovered that spirituality at work holds the potential to enhance authenticity, trust, and engagement. The conversation unfolds to explore the positive impact of framing spirituality as an ongoing inquiry rather than a set answer, highlighting the importance of creating a safe and permissible space for individuals to explore and express their spiritual dimensions in the workplace. Tune in for more!

There are very powerful ways that our individual spiritual dimensions help us in our work and very practical ways that workplace conversations about spirituality can engage and align work teams. In this episode of the podcast, Andrew is joined by the CEO of  Mobius Executive Leadership, Amy Elizabeth Fox, who discusses the importance of being in tune with our deeper selves, and how our spiritual and internal development/healing is instrumental to how we lead and support others. Amy talks about stepping into vulnerability, living from a self-loving heart, healing from trauma, and how leaders can increase their emotional footprint so as to build a stronger relational infrastructure. This is a rich conversation about the power of spirituality to create more mature leaders and healthier organizations

Spirituality is such a big word that it becomes elusive to define. But for Kelly Wendorf, the CEO of EQUUS, spirituality is what hones us to become better humans and tethers us to accountability and boundaries. She sits down with Andrew Cohn to discuss deeper into what spirituality is to her and how it guides her life and helps her recognize that there are forces greater than ourselves and that we are a part of. Kelly talks about spirituality in the context of leadership, honing in on the ideas of care and presence as leaders build systems, cultures, and frameworks that help teams and organizations thrive. She also taps into inclusion and what leaders can do to keep doors open as well as how being in nature reminds us that there are greater forces at work. Join today's episode and find that profound connection to life, nurturing that awareness of how we can influence each other for the greater good.

We are capable of so much more than we realize. Sometimes, we just have to look deeper within ourselves to discover what we are made of, serving not just ourselves but others. This is what Hylke Faber helps people with. As the CEO of Growth Leaders Network, he sits at the helm of his team of facilitators and coaches to help individuals tap more deeply into what they're truly made of and their true potential. In this episode, Hylke joins Andrew Cohn to share the origin story of finding the connection to his calling—from thinking of himself as a primary client to then discovering that spiritual dimension through meditation and replacing the word ‘spiritual' with connectedness and evolution. He also talks about how this connection to our deeper strengths also applies to organizations as a whole, especially as leaders move their teams across crises and bring results. Tune in as Hylke takes us on a journey to connectedness and the pursuit of learning more about ourselves as individuals and as part of a collective.

You are listening to Spirituality In Leadership Podcast. Join Andrew Cohn in exploring different ways leaders can leverage their spiritual dimensions for the benefit of others. Each episode focuses on the thread that connects spirituality and leadership, providing you with the roadmap to become more fulfilled and effective in all roles of your life. Prepare to dive into these insightful discussions that will guide you on embracing servant leadership, understanding your purpose in life, and tapping into your core dimensions.