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Guests: Marine Lt. Gen. Roger B. Turner of the III Marine Expeditionary Force, and the 3D Marine Division's Maj. Gen. Christian F. Wortman, in conversation with Defense One's Jennifer Hlad. You can view our other 2025 State of Defense interviews here. 

Guests: Command Sergeant Major JoAnn Nauman, Command Senior Enlisted Leader of Army Special Operations Command, in conversation with Defense One's Meghann Myers and Ben Watson. Related reading: "Army establishes new fitness test of record to strengthen readiness and lethality," published April 21, 2025; "Setting Higher Close Combat Standards for the Army Combat Fitness Test," via RAND researchers, published Dec 20, 2024;  And "Independent Review of the Army Combat Fitness Test," also via RAND, published Mar 23, 2022.

Guests: Defense One's Meghann Myers and Lauren C. Williams.

Guest: U.S. Army chief of staff Gen. Randy George, interviewed by Defense One's Patrick Tucker. Catch our full State of Defense agenda and future events, here.

Guest: U.S. Space Force commander Gen. Chance Saltzman, interviewed by Defense One's Audrey Decker. Catch our full State of Defense agenda and future events, running through the end of March, here.

Guest: U.S. Air Force commander Gen. David Allvin, interviewed by Defense One's Audrey Decker. Catch our full State of Defense agenda and future events, running through the end of March, here.

Over the next several episodes, we're going to hear from some of the U.S. military's top officers as part of our annual State of Defense event series, which runs through the end of March. Learn more about that series here. This episode, Meghann Myers spoke with U.S. Marine Corp Commandant Gen. Eric Smith.

Guest: U.S. Army Col. Joshua Glonek, commander 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division. Related reading: "How two units are learning from each other as the Army moves to modernize," from Sam Skove reporting in October; "Army embraces Ukraine-style warfare with new all-drone unit," also via Skove, reporting from Louisiana's Fort Johnson in September; And in reruns there is "Defense One Radio, Ep. 161: A trip to Louisiana with the Army's new recon unit," featuring Skove speaking about his trip to Louisiana.

Maj. Gen. Joseph Kunkel discusses his how his service's modernization strategy will shape the future of air combat in an increasingly complex security landscape. Guest: Air Force Maj. Gen. Joseph Kunkel, director of Force Design, Integration and Wargaming at Air Force Futures; he's interviewed by Defense One air warfare reporter Audrey Decker. Related viewing: "AI in the Skies," January 28, 2025.

Patrick Tucker describes a Defense Department in transition as Russia's Ukraine invasion approaches the four-year mark. Related reading: "Ukraine military-aid donors aim to set Kyiv up through 2027, Pentagon says," Tucker reported on January 7; And "Kyiv's donors set production goals to regularize arms donations to Ukraine," he reported two days later.

We listen back on more than a dozen guests from conversations across 2024.  Guests (in order): Fabian Hinz, research fellow at the International Institute for Strategic Studies; Bruce Hoffman, senior fellow for counterterrorism and homeland security at the Council on Foreign Relations, and co-author of "God, Guns, and Sedition: Far-Right Terrorism in America"; Karolina Hird, analyst and Russia Deputy Team Lead at the Institute for the Study of War; Elliot Ackerman, co-author of "2054: A Novel"; Mackenzie Eaglen, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, where she works on defense strategy, defense budgets, and military readiness; Ankit Panda, Stanton Senior Fellow in the Nuclear Policy Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace; Chris Blattman, economist, political scientist, and Ramalee E. Pearson Professor of Global Conflict Studies at the University of Chicago, and author of the 2022 book, "Why We Fight: The Roots of War and the Paths to Peace"; Mick Ryan, retired Australian Army major general, strategist, and author of “White Sun War: The Campaign for Taiwan"; Dmitri Alperovitch, chairman of the Silverado Policy Accelerator, a geopolitics think-tank in Washington, and author of “World on the Brink: How America Can Beat China in the Race for the Twenty-First Century"; Sam Skove, former Defense One staff writer; Mark Montgomery, a retired U.S. Navy rear admiral, is a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies in Washington and senior director of FDD's Center on Cyber and Technology Innovation; Peter Tamte, founder and CEO of Victura; And Brent Sadler, retired Navy captain and senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation.

Guests: Audrey Decker, aerospace reporter for Defense One; Patrick Tucker, science and technology editor at Defense One. Related reading: Some Republicans remain unsold on Hegseth Russia in talks to send fighter jets to North Korea, INDOPACOM says ‘Multi-headed monster': Biden, Trump officials address China-Russia-Iran coordination ‘Shock the system': Startups and DOGE take over Reagan forum Defense officials hopeful incoming administration keeps funding cutting-edge tech

Guests: Brian Potter, Senior Infrastructure Fellow at the Institute for Progress and author of "Why Can't the U.S. Build Ships?" from September 2024; And Nicole Foy, ProPublica's Ancil Payne Fellow, writing on immigration and labor; her report "An Immigrant Died Building a Ship for the U.S. Government. His Family Got Nothing" was published in October 2024. And don't miss our complementary podcast episode, "How U.S. Navy shipbuilding sank so low."

Guests: Matthew Paxton, president of the Shipbuilders Council of America; Rep. Rob Wittman, R-Va.; Ret. Navy Capt. Brent Sadler, senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation; And Ret. Rear Adm. Mark Montgomery, senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Sources and additional reading: Navy Force Structure and Shipbuilding Plans: Background and Issues for Congress (PDF); U.S. Navy budget materials; "Navy adds $1B to unconventional effort to boost sub production," by Lauren Williams, reporting Sept. 2024; Defense Department's 2024 Defense Industrial Base strategy; And "Restoring Our Maritime Strength: An agenda for the next president's first hundred days," by Brent Sadler and Jerry Hendrix, writing in the National Review in late October.

A decorated Marine veteran and a video game maker revisit one of the bloodiest battles in U.S. military history.  Guests: Elliot Ackerman, author and contributing writer at The Atlantic; Peter Tamte, founder and CEO of Victura; And Defense One science and tech editor Patrick Tucker. Sources and additional reading: "Goodbye, My Brother," by Elliot Ackerman, writing for Esquire on March 23, 2017; The video game "Six Days in Fallujah"; "Ultra-Realistic Modern Warfare Game Features Awaiting Orders, Repairing Trucks," a satirical video produced in January 2011 by The Onion; "Virtual reality exposure therapy for posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD): a meta-analysis," published August 2019 in the European Journal of Psychotraumatology; "Trauma, treatment and Tetris: video gaming increases hippocampal volume in male patients with combat-related posttraumatic stress disorder," published April 2020 in the Journal of Psychiatry & Neuroscience; And "Putting the Gaming Experience at the Center of the Therapy—The Video Game Therapy® Approach," published June 2023 in Healthcare.  

A retired U.S. admiral shares what he learned from a recent trip to the wartorn country. Guest: Mark Montgomery, a retired U.S. Navy rear admiral, is a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies in Washington and senior director of FDD's Center on Cyber and Technology Innovation.

Defense One staff summarize the leading developments from this year's Association of the U.S. Army conference in Washington.  Guest: Sam Skove, staff reporter; Patrick Tucker, science and tech editor. Find Defense One's complete AUSA coverage here.

Audrey Decker explains some of the top developments out of this year's AFA conference outside Washington. Guest: Audrey Decker, Defense One's air warfare reporter. Extra reading: China's aggressive regional moves open doors for the US, PACAF chief says Air Force wants NGAD to cost no more than an F-35. Is that even possible? Lessons from Ukrainian F-16 crash will shape US training: Air Force general Air Force's Ospreys will return to forward-deployment within 'weeks' Test B-21 flying up to twice a week, Northrop reports

Patrick Tucker unpacks findings from his recent trip to Prague for the 2024 Global Security Conference. Related reading: "European officials vow to boost defense production, but some worry it won't be enough," by Patrick Tucker, reporting August 30 from Prague; "The big loophole allowing Russia to access US chips? China," by Tucker again, reporting from Washington on September 11; And "EU competitiveness: Looking ahead," a report published this week by Mario Draghi, former president of the European Central Bank.

The Army just put a new unit loaded with cutting-edge tech to the test at Fort Johnson. Sam Skove explains what he saw during a recent week long demonstration. You can read more from Sam's coverage of this Army exercise here.

We revisit some of the bigger takeaways from this year's Farnborough International Airshow.  Guest: Dan Darling, vice president of market insights at Forecast International, a research and consulting firm owned by Defense One's parent company. You can see all of our Farnborough Airshow coverage, here.

We conclude our 2024 Tech Summit coverage with an interview featuring DARPA Director Stefanie Tompkins. Guest: Stefanie Tompkins, Director of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. You can see all of our interviews from the 2024 Tech Summit at Defense One's YouTube page, here.

Our 2024 Tech Summit coverage continues with a discussion about the future of hypersonic missile research and development. Guest: Frank Peterkin, Principal Director of Directed Energy at the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Critical Technologies; And Jarret Lafleur, Senior Advisor to the Principal Director for Hypersonics for Strike Systems Strategy and Policy Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering. You can see all of our interviews from the 2024 Tech Summit at Defense One's YouTube page, here.

We're sharing some of our notable exchanges from the 2024 Defense One Technology Summit, beginning with the Pentagon's Maynard Holliday. Guest: Maynard Holliday, Performing the Duties of Assistant Secretary of Defense for Critical Technologies at the Defense Department. You can see all of our interviews from the 2024 Tech Summit at Defense One's YouTube page, here.

What might an invasion of Taiwan look like, and how can allies help the island nation better defend itself?  Guest: Dmitri Alperovitch, chairman of the Silverado Policy Accelerator, a geopolitics think-tank in Washington. Sources: “World on the Brink: How America Can Beat China in the Race for the Twenty-First Century,” by Dmitri Alperovitch, published April 2024;  “Surveying the Experts U.S. and Taiwan Views on China's Approach to Taiwan in 2024 and Beyond,” by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, January 2024.

The author of “White Sun War: The Campaign for Taiwan" discusses shoring up defenses against a blockade or invasion.  Guest: Mick Ryan, retired Australian Army major general, strategist, and author. Sources: “White Sun War: The Campaign for Taiwan,” by Mick Ryan, published May 2023; "Chinese Warship Activities around Taiwan," by Si-Fu Ou, director of the Division of Chinese Politics, Military and Warfighting Concepts at the Institute for National Defense and Security Research in Taiwan; “From Coercion to Capitulation, How China Can Take Taiwan Without a War,” by the Institute for the Study of War, May 2024.

Guest: Chris Blattman, economist, political scientist, and Ramalee E. Pearson Professor of Global Conflict Studies at the University of Chicago. Sources:  “Global military spending surges amid war, rising tensions and insecurity,” published April 2024 by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute;  “Back in Stock? The State of Russia's Defense Industry after Two Years of the War,” by Maria Snegovaya, Max Bergmann, Tina Dolbaia, Nick Fenton, and Samuel Bendett, published April 2024 by the Center for Strategic and International Studies;  “Keeping Up with the Pacing Threat: Unveiling the True Size of Beijing's Military Spending,” by Mackenzie Eaglen, published April 2024 by the American Enterprise Institute;  “Indo-Pacific Missile Arsenals: Avoiding Spirals and Mitigating Escalation Risks,” by Ankit Panda, published October 2023 by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace;  “Missile Proliferation and Control in the Asia-Pacific Region,” from Jeffrey Lewis and Kolja Brockmann, published April 2024 by the International Institute for Strategic Studies; And “Why We Fight: The Roots of War and the Paths to Peace,” from Chris Blattman, published April 2022 by Penguin Random House.

Guests: Mackenzie Eaglen, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, where she works on defense strategy, defense budgets, and military readiness; And Ankit Panda, Stanton Senior Fellow in the Nuclear Policy Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Sources:  “Global military spending surges amid war, rising tensions and insecurity,” published April 2024 by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute;  “Back in Stock? The State of Russia's Defense Industry after Two Years of the War,” by Maria Snegovaya, Max Bergmann, Tina Dolbaia, Nick Fenton, and Samuel Bendett, published April 2024 by the Center for Strategic and International Studies;  “Keeping Up with the Pacing Threat: Unveiling the True Size of Beijing's Military Spending,” by Mackenzie Eaglen, published April 2024 by the American Enterprise Institute;  “Indo-Pacific Missile Arsenals: Avoiding Spirals and Mitigating Escalation Risks,” by Ankit Panda, published October 2023 by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace;  “Missile Proliferation and Control in the Asia-Pacific Region,” from Jeffrey Lewis and Kolja Brockmann, published April 2024 by the International Institute for Strategic Studies; And “Why We Fight: The Roots of War and the Paths to Peace,” from Chris Blattman, published April 2022 by Penguin Random House.

Guest: Maria Snegovaya, senior fellow for Russia and Eurasia with the Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and a postdoctoral fellow in Georgetown University's Walsh School of Foreign Service. Source material:  “Global military spending surges amid war, rising tensions and insecurity,” published April 2024 by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute;  “Back in Stock? The State of Russia's Defense Industry after Two Years of the War,” by Maria Snegovaya, Max Bergmann, Tina Dolbaia, Nick Fenton, and Samuel Bendett, published April 2024 by the Center for Strategic and International Studies;  “Keeping Up with the Pacing Threat: Unveiling the True Size of Beijing's Military Spending,” by Mackenzie Eaglen, published April 2024 by the American Enterprise Institute;  “Indo-Pacific Missile Arsenals: Avoiding Spirals and Mitigating Escalation Risks,” by Ankit Panda, published October 2023 by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace;  “Missile Proliferation and Control in the Asia-Pacific Region,” from Jeffrey Lewis and Kolja Brockmann, published April 2024 by the International Institute for Strategic Studies; And “Why We Fight: The Roots of War and the Paths to Peace,” from Chris Blattman, published April 2022 by Penguin Random House.

Defense One's Audrey Decker interviews Gen. David Allvin and Air Mobility Command's Gen. Mike Minihan (at the 32:42 mark). You can also catch all of our 2024 State of Defense interviews on Defense One's YouTube page, here.

Defense One Executive Editor Bradley Peniston speaks with Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Lisa Franchetti; and Defense One's Patrick Tucker sat down with Fourth Fleet commander Rear Adm. James Aiken (at the 28:09 mark). You can watch both of these interviews on Defense One's YouTube page, here.

Defense One's Sam Skove speaks to Army Chief of Staff Gen. Randy George; and Defense One's Jennifer Hlad speaks with Gen. Charles Flynn, commander of U.S. Army Pacific. You can watch both of these interviews on Defense One's YouTube page, here.

Defense One's Sam Skove speaks to Assistant Commandant Gen. Christopher Mahoney; and Defense One's Jennifer Hlad interviews Marine Corps Combat Development Command's Lt. Gen. Karsten Heckl. You can also watch either of these interviews on Defense One's events page, here.

Defense One's Audrey Decker speaks to America's Chief of the Space Force Gen. Chance Saltzman; and Defense One's Lauren Williams interviews Air Force Col. Michelle Idle, deputy commander of Space Systems Command. You can also watch either of these interviews on Defense One's events page, here.

The author and Marine veteran discusses the future of technology, the promise of AI, the perils of toxic politics, and other themes packed into his latest work of speculative fiction.  Guest: Elliot Ackerman, co-author of "2054: A Novel," which was published on March 12. Find our previous discussions with Ackerman here: Ep. 107: The legacy of America's Afghan war; And Ep. 79: “2034: A Novel of the Next World War”.

Audrey Decker unpacks the top news from this year's Air & Space Forces Association Warfare Symposium. Here's a roll-up of her reporting from the AFA symposium: Air Force announces major shakeup to prep for war with China; Air Force will narrow its pool of robot wingman vendors within ‘next few months'; 'Unexpected' engineering slows price negotiations on USAF radar plane USAF plans stealthy tankers for ‘extreme threat areas'; Lockheed vows steady F-35 production amid demand shifts And First Ukrainian F-16 pilots will complete training as soon as May.

How does the Kremlin force an entirely new reality on an occupied city? And how do Europeans feel about the invasion and U.S. hesitation to rearm Ukraine?   Guests: Karolina Hird, analyst and Russia Deputy Team Lead at the Institute for the Study of War; Karin von Hippel is Director-General of the Royal United Services Institute. You can find Hird's recent report, "The Kremlin's Occupation Playbook: Coerced Russification and Ethnic Cleansing in Occupied Ukraine," here.

Guests: Bruce Hoffman, senior fellow for counterterrorism and homeland security at the Council on Foreign Relations; Jacob Ware, research fellow also at the Council on Foreign Relations. Their book “God, Guns, and Sedition: Far-right Terrorism in America" was published in January.

We review how the Iran-backed Houthis are disrupting global shipping in the Red Sea, and we look back at similar dynamics near the end of the so-called tanker wars of the late 1980s. Guests: Fabian Hinz, research fellow at the International Institute for Strategic Studies; Patrick Tucker, science and technology editor at Defense One; And Bradley Peniston, Defense One executive editor.

We take stock of our last 12 months of interviews, featuring conversations with generals, White House officials, researchers, authors, our own reporters, and many more. Guests include: U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Joel “JB” Vowell, who at the time commanded the United States Army Japan; he is now commander of the ISIS-focused Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve (from episode 115); Monica Toft, professor of international politics and the director of the Center for Strategic Studies at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy; and Sidita Kushi, assistant professor of political science at Bridgewater State University (from episode 116); Michael Knights, security analyst with the Washington Institute (from episode 124); Defense One's Sam Skove (from episode 125); Sam Bendett, advisor in Russian studies at CNA (from episode 126); Defense One's Patrick Tucker (from episode 129); Decker Eveleth, graduate research assistant at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies in Monterey, California (from episode 130); Martin Pfeiffer, a PhD candidate in anthropology at the University of New Mexico (from episode 131); Patrick Tucker again (from episode 132); Sam Skove again (from episode 134); Cindy Cohn, Executive Director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation; and Joshua Geltzer is Deputy Assistant to President Joe Biden and Deputy Homeland Security Advisor at the National Security Council (from episode 135); And Barak Mendelsohn, Professor of Political Science at Haverford College in Philadelphia (from episode 138).

The Army's top buyer and the Pentagon's integration chief talk Ukraine, non-traditional suppliers, and more.  Guests: Army Assistant Secretary for Acquisition, Logistics, and Technology Doug Bush sat down with Defense One Global Business Editor Marcus Weisgerber. Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Integration, and Interoperability Dave Tremper spoke with Defense One Technology editor Patrick Tucker.

We take a look at how officials around the region are carrying on with business as usual despite Israel's war with Hamas. Guest: Audrey Decker is a Defense One staff reporter, where she writes about air and space.

This episode, we discuss the daunting task of clearing Gaza City of Hamas as well as Israel's goal crushing the group once and for all. Guests: Ret. Army Gen. Joseph Votel, distinguished senior fellow on national security at the Middle East Institute (beginning at the 2:15 mark); And Barak Mendelsohn, Professor of Political Science at Haverford College in Philadelphia (at 15:52).

Guests: Mark Kitz, program executive officer for command, control and communications-tactical (interviewed by Defense One's Lauren Williams, beginning at the 1:10 mark); And Army Brig. Gen. Guillaume Beaurpere of the Army's John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School, as well as Maj. Gen. Christopher Eubank of Network Enterprise Technology Command (with Defense One's Patrick Tucker) at the 9:38 mark).

Defense One staff explain some of the major themes from this year's annual Association of the U.S. Army conference in Washington. Guest: Sam Skove, Defense One staff reporter; Patrick Tucker, Defense One science and tech editor. Read more from our AUSA coverage at any of the links below: Army eyes munitions stockpiles amid focus on longer wars Army orders loitering munition for testing as soldier-borne tank-killer The Army doesn't know where a lot of its excess arms and gear are Ukraine wants West's help in training NCOs and officers How the war in Ukraine is reshaping US Army modernization New 155mm round exceeds range of some rockets, can be fired by standard Army artillery AUSA Conference Wire: 'Drones everywhere' AUSA Conference Wire: 'Magazine depth' AUSA Conference Wire: 'A critical juncture'

We review the history of FISA Section 702 ahead of its possible expiration at the end of the year.  Guests: Cindy Cohn is the Executive Director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation; And Joshua Geltzer is Deputy Assistant to President Joe Biden and Deputy Homeland Security Advisor at the National Security Council. Read over a copy of the recent Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board report on recommended changes to FISA Section 702 (PDF), here.

Staff reporter Sam Skove shares some of the highlights from his recent trip to Poland, Estonia, and the UK.  Read more from Sam's European trip at any of the links below: How a tiny Polish airport became a key node for Western aid to Ukraine Polish support for Ukraine brings lessons, but also risks EU plans to arm Ukraine bearing fruit, but more is needed, Estonia says Estonia plans loitering-munitions unit to hunt enemy air defenses Europe's defense spending sluggish despite Ukraine war Navies face ‘dreadnought moment' as Ukraine destroys more Russian warships, British admiral says Ukraine learns to fight with a hodge-podge of foreign artillery Beset by Russian airstrikes, Ukraine looks to make its weapons abroad

This episode we review several things we learned at the Air & Space Forces Association's annual Air, Space & Cyber conference. Guests: Audrey Decker, Defense One's air and space reporter (beginning at the 0:46 mark); Lauren Williams, senior editor at Defense One (at 7:48); And Marcus Weisgerber, global business editor at Defense One (at 14:26). Read more of our coverage from this year's AFA conference here.

We dig into the U.S. military's new Replicator initiative, and explore Anduril's recent UAV-firm acquisition.  Guests: Patrick Tucker,science and technology editor at Defense One; Chris Brose, chief strategy officer for Anduril Industries. Related reading: “‘Hellscape': DOD launches massive drone swarm program to counter China,” by Patrick Tucker, reporting August 28, 2023;  Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks' Remarks: "Unpacking the Replicator Initiative" at the 2023 Defense News Conference;  “The Kill Chain: Defending America in the Future of High-Tech Warfare,” by Chris Brose (published 2020); And “Anduril buys drone maker Blue Force Technologies amid Pentagon push for autonomous aircraft,” by Marcus Weisgerber, reporting September 7, 2023.

How much of America's nuclear history does the three-hour film pack in and how much did it leave out?  Guest: Martin Pfeiffer, a PhD candidate in anthropology at the University of New Mexico.

From Cold War-era distrust of the Soviets to Beijing's recent silo buildup, we review some of the ideas and methods that have helped China become the nuclear power it is today. Guests: Decker Eveleth, graduate research assistant at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies in Monterey, California (beginning at the 1:47 mark); And Joseph Cirincione, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a national security analyst with 40 years of experience in Washington, D.C. (at the 20:05 mark). Read Eveleth's recent report on Chinese nuclear forces, here. And you can find Cirincione's 1999 review of the Cox Report, here. See also a new report from the Chicago Council entitled, “Majority in US Want to Learn More about Nuclear Policy.”