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Dive deep into the world of music and personal growth with our special guest, Janey Brown. Janey, a seasoned musician and wellness advocate, takes us on an enriching journey through her career in the music industry. From her early days, dreaming of the stage to the realities of navigating recording studios and collaborating with Grammy-winning producers, Janey shares candidly about the highs and lows of her artistic path. Janey reflects on the challenges she faced, including betrayals and setbacks that tested her resolve. She opens up about the transformative role of wellness practices in her life, revealing how mindfulness and community support became essential tools for navigating the pressures of fame and creative expression. Listeners will gain valuable insights into the inner workings of the music industry, as Janey discusses the importance of authenticity and resilience in sustaining a meaningful career. Her journey from self-discovery to embracing her true artistic voice offers inspiration to aspiring musicians and creatives alike. Join us for an inspiring conversation as Janey Brown shares her unique perspective on balancing artistic integrity with personal well-being, and the power of music to heal and uplift. Website- https://janeybrown.com https://www.instagram.com/janeybworld

INTRODUCTION:I'm a trauma-informed coach, professional singer and keynote speaker. I help people build resilience to fear and manage mental health so they can radiate confidence in front of any audience. I'm studying psychology at Queen's University and will be publishing my first book very soon!!! I love deep connection and having great conversations that uplift, inspire and help others.Over the last two decades, I've performed in front of THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE and struggled with astonishing stage fright most of the way. I used to try and “fight” my fears, achieve perfection and never show weakness. All that did was weaken me further, induce a deep sense of loneliness from abandoning myself and turn my fear into a monster. Eventually, this way of living devoured my physical and mental health. After avidly studying psychology and trauma since 2014, what was once my fear has now become my FUEL. I founded Fearce Academy to provide the mental health, emotional intelligence, confidence and leadership skills I lacked coming up in the entertainment industry, especially around mindset and fear. I was taught that fear is a weakness, but after years of fighting fears and losing, it's clear now that fear is just an untapped source of fuel. When honed, fear can actually become our friend.INCLUDED IN THIS EPISODE (But not limited to): ·      God Has Not Given Us The Spirit Of Fear…No, He Did Not·      Being Afraid Of What You Are In Love With·      When Janey Met P!nk At Yoga!!!·      Our Thoughts On Alanis Morrissette ·      Manufactured Artists vs. The Real Deal·      Signing By Janey & De'Vannon·      Narcissistic Personality Disorder vs. Borderline Personality Disorder·      The Importance Of Awareness·      Trauma Informed Therapy Is A Must!·      Soooo Much Potential!!! CONNECT WITH JANEY BROWN:Website: https://janeybrown.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/janeybrownTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@janeybworldYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/janeybrownFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/janeybworldInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/janeybworld/Twitter: https://twitter.com/JaneyBworldLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janeybrown/  CONNECT WITH DE'VANNON:Website: https://www.SexDrugsAndJesus.comWebsite: https://www.DownUnderApparel.com   Spiritual Services: https://www.sexdrugsandjesus.com/magical-lessons/Donate Via PayPal: https://shorturl.at/gq068CashApp: $DeVannonSeraphinoVenmo: @DeVannonSeraphino Patreon: https://patreon.com/SDJPodcastTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sexdrugsandjesusYouTube: https://bit.ly/3daTqCMSupport the showThanks for listening! Please donate at SexDrugsAndJesus.com and follow us on TikTok, IG etc.

How do you find the balance between self-love and tough love? In this episode, Brad and Lesley unpack the takeaways and action steps from singer-songwriter Janey Brown, highlighting her fearless journey in performing, academia, self-discovery, and why discipline is more important than motivation.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why you need to balance self-love and tough love to achieve your goals.The humbling experience and trying to balance multiple pursuits.Why discipline and not motivation is what you need to help you show up for yourself.The beneficial way to be more in tune with your gut.Episode References/Links: eLevate Round Four Mentorship ProgramEarly Bird for Cambodia WaitlistAgency MiniFlashcard DecksWaitlist for Upcoming DecksTiny Habits by BJ Fogg  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Claire Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel, BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesFollow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Where motivation lacks discipline must live yeah and we have talked about this before if you've listened to any via pod you probably have heard someone or myself say there's like motivation is not going to get you very far fickle friend it's like a friend and so discipline habits are the things you need to help you show up for yourself.Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:02  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life are going to dig into the per (inaudible).Brad Crowell 1:14  Did you do that on purpose? (inaudible)Lesley Logan 1:17  We're gonna dig into the perspicacious... did you choose this word?Brad Crowell 1:24  That was right except you laughed so nobody could understand you. So what is the word? Lesley Logan 1:29  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life are going to dig into the perspicacious convo. Why? Why did you pick this word? I know Bel didn't pick this word.Brad Crowell 1:41  I didn't pick this word. Lesley Logan 1:43  Bel picked this word? Lesley Logan 1:44  Bel picked this word.Lesley Logan 1:45  Bel, I can't. I have, I went to speech therapy. These are too many S's and P's together.Brad Crowell 1:50  Perspicacious. Lesley Logan 1:52  Perspicacious convo. Well, anyways, it was a deep convo I had with Janey Brown in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to the interview, feel free to pause this now go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us or if you'd like to listen to this one and then go back and listen to that one. That's great. You can do you. Brad Crowell 2:09  Do it. Lesley Logan 2:10  Today, if you're listening in real time is December 21, 2023, and is the winter solstice. The winter solstice marks a day with the shortest period of daylight, a.k.a. everyone's worst nightmare, and the longest night of the year in the northern hemisphere. All thanks to the tilt of the earth and in many cultures today is a day of feasting and celebration but even if you're totally agnostic, you can still find a reason to rejoice because after today, you'll see gradually shorter nights and longer days, which means it's better. It's better when there's more daylight. It's better. It's a real thing. Seasonal Affective Disorder is a real thing. Brad Crowell 2:49  Oh, I do not disagree.Lesley Logan 2:51  Thank you. Thank goodness, I have a red light therapy system on SaunaSpace. Check the links in the bio we'll get you the discount code because you will need it on this day. So we are currently on tour, I believe, as we speak we're in Brooklyn, tomorrow we're in Manhattan. We and then we are in Hershey and away a few days off before Greensboro, Brad Crowell 3:12  North CarolinaLesley Logan 3:13  Charleston, that's in South Carolina, Miami, Sarasota,Brad Crowell 3:20  Austin, Texas, Dallas, Albuquerque, and thenLesley Logan 3:23  And Sedona, Brad Crowell 3:24  Sedona, Arizona.Lesley Logan 3:27  Yes, I'm sure they appreciate how you said that state name. Anyways, after the tour, I'm going to kick off eLevate my fourth round of my mentorship program. So there might be a spotlight when you listen to this. Lesley Logan 3:39  There might be.Lesley Logan 3:39  There might be. You definitely don't want to wait till 2025, just gonna say it.  Brad Crowell 3:43  There's still time to get in. The kickoff calls on in early January but the first weekend of workshops is actually not until February. Lesley Logan 3:52  Yeah. So you'll want to go to lesleylogon.co/elevate for that. Or shoot me a message and we're gonna call to chat about it.Brad Crowell 4:00  Why would they do it with a one liner? Why would they do it? Lesley Logan 4:02  You're burning out tired of feeling like you don't know what you're doing and you pre-plan away too much only for your client to come in with broken arms. So it's for all of you who are trying to be perfect in your teaching guess what, there's no such thing and it actually helps you understand the why behind the what because my teacher was one of those Pilates clients.Brad Crowell 4:21  I love that, understand the why behind the what. Lesley Logan 4:24  Yeah, it's not about being a parrot, y'all. Then later in January, we're going to open up the doors for early bird for Cambodia, the space is super limited and those on the waitlist for that are going to get the best early bird option rate.Brad Crowell 4:40  Oh yeah, we're going in October. But we're going to start the kickoff and all that kind of stuff in January. So stay tuned for that. You can get on the waitlist at lesleylogan.co/retreats with an S. Lesley Logan 4:53  Yeah. And then in February it's Agency Mini number 10.Brad Crowell 4:59  Holy macaroni. Lesley Logan 5:01  Yeah, dop. What's 10 in Cambodian? Dop?Brad Crowell 5:04  Dop.Lesley Logan 5:05  Dop, dop, dop. Yeah. So and then the 10th one, and it's really, really exciting. So Pilates teachers out there that one is for you, if you are wanting to actually get paid, doing what you love. Yeah. So or you want to actually maybe you're already being paid, but you're over working yourself. Let's talk about it.Brad Crowell 5:23  Yeah. So if you want to get more info about that, get on the waitlist for Mini at profitablepilates.com/mini. Lesley Logan 5:31  Yeah. Before we dive into Janey Brown's amazing words for us, do we have audience question to answer? Brad Crowell 5:38  Oh, we sure do. Today, quite exciting, today is a fun one for us because it's something that we're super passionate about. We were asked, hey, love your decks? Do you sell them as a bundle? And what she was referencing is the flashcard decks that are available through OPC onlinepilatesclasses.com. We have these epic flashcard decks that I jokingly refer as the most complex off-hand side comment that Lesley ever made, oh, hey, we should make decks and I was like, oh my gosh, I know how to do that. And now it's been four years and I don't know, 2000 hours later, at least, you know, to put all these decks together. And we've two more decks coming. So do we sell them as a bundle? Today, we do not. However, Lesley Logan 6:25  However, we will someday.Brad Crowell 6:27  Tuned in two more years when the last decks are released. And then we're gonna make a fun little like, pack to hold everything.Lesley Logan 6:34  Brad wants to make a collector's box. Brad Crowell 6:35  I really do. Lesley Logan 6:36  So if you are waiting on the bundle, because you think bundle equals discount, that's not happening. Brad Crowell 6:42  No, it's gonna be the opposite. Lesley Logan 6:45  Here's the deal, guys. It's not because I don't want you to save money. I love people making money saving money doing it, I understand all I understand that money is an investment when you buy things, you have to also understand that these decks cost a frickin fortune to make a fortune to make. You have like just a chair deck alone, we had to sell over 300 decks before it paid our investment back. So and that was not the time.Brad Crowell 7:12  That was just the print.Lesley Logan 7:13  That was just the print.Brad Crowell 7:14  That wasn't the 500 hours at least it took to actually make it. Not that you should be crying for us. But the reality is, you know, these these decks are, they've been put together with a lot of love and care. And there's, I don't know, half dozen, maybe even more people who are touching every deck before it makes it into your hands. Plus, then we obviously worked with a really amazing manufacturer in Florida. And they're making them super high quality. So we're really, really proud of them. And we absolutely want to have a bundle. We're not there yet. We have two more decks to release before we do that.Lesley Logan 7:45  Yeah, so at any rate if you are like but I want to save money on your decks here is the secret. Here's a secret sauce. We only put a new deck on sale when it's on presale. That's right. And if you are on the waitlist, you are going to get the presale price. So we actually do not do a public presale. It is a private presale. So you want to go on the waitlist. I think Brad is going to look that up because I actually don't know what that waitlist thing is. But, but if you're on that, then you'll get the best price because we actually give you the presale 30% off with the with the regular price is going to be and we don't put the other decks on sale generally. I'm not gonna say never, but pretty much not. And they definitely go 30% off ever again. So at any rate, I want you to have these because they're amazing. I also promise you they are really worth every single penny. Each card is really beautifully made. SoBrad Crowell 8:40  Yeah, so if you if you're interested in more information about that, you can actually see what flashcards we're talking about if you go to opc.me/flashcards. And if you're interested in getting on the waitlist for the upcoming beryls deck or the upcoming accessories deck, just chat to us go to opc.me/chat. And we'll make sure to add you to those waitlists and you'll be in the know. Great question. Thanks. Lesley Logan 9:04  You can send your questions in just anywhere you can get in contact with us and we'll answer it on the next pod.Brad Crowell 9:13  Okay, now let's talk about Janey Brown. She's a multi-talented individual, a singer, performer and psychology student who has a strong belief in the power of healthy habits and discipline. Janey has faced challenges and setbacks but remains resilient and determined to pursue her goal, even if it means taking a slower path. She values the process of self-discovery and embracing one's dark side to achieve personal growth and fulfillment. Lesley Logan 9:41  Yeah, she um I love it. She's like a multi-hyphenated individual because like it's really fun to see someone go after something that is so artistic and people might think like, oh my God, you're made as a musician, then she is actually challenging herself in the next way to like, incorporate all the interests that she has and she you know, one of the reasons we wanted to talk to her is because she she does things, even with the fear, like forcing herself to do things even though she is scared. And for her, it's actually quite hilarious that academia was the less scary route I thought... Brad Crowell 10:13  She's a stage performer, but going to school was scarier than singing on church. Lesley Logan 10:19  Yeah, which would be like the exact opposite of most people. Most people I find, like, I'll go back to school because that feels safe and not like, doing the other thing, which feels really scary because you're usually putting themselves out there. So I just thought it was like a kind of funny irony. Anyways, she for her going academia was outside of her comfort zone. And she, she said she has that she tries to while forcing the fear, she's also trying to be kind and loving towards yourself. Because I think it's really easy to get hard on ourselves with these things, we feel like we should be doing something better. But she said, in order to find the best version of yourself, you actually do need to be kind and loving to who you are. And if you're a perfectionist, she did say you might find you might struggle to do this, because you're looking for a balance of the right amount of self love, also and the right amount of tough love. And by the way, Brad Crowell 11:11  Well, if you're looking if you're a perfectionist, you're looking for the exact equation. Lesley Logan 11:14  Yeah, and I'm just gonna tell you right now, there fucking isn't one. No. Also, there's no such thing as balance. Like there are there are objects and bridges and interesting things that are inbound like balanced in their position. They're also like, because of infrastructure tied the fuck down to make sure they don't fall over. Like even the Leaning Tower of Pizza, pizza, Pisa, Pisa,Brad Crowell 11:38  The Leaning Tower of Pisa perspicaciousLesley Logan 11:41  (Inaudible) isn't balancing in its lane, there are things that are holding it up. So the reality is, is like balance is just the worst goal you could ever have. So is certainty. And so I think what I really enjoy was like, you know, she just to like sum up, she is nice to herself, but also sometimes be tough with herself to get to do something that she's scared to do. And then also she acknowledges that like it's really okay to rest because that might be giving it all you got that day. And I thought that that was a really cool reminder, because I heard somewhere on Instagram. I didn't hear it. I read it. I read it on Instagram. This this like quote card said, like if you only have 30% to give and you give 30% you gave 100%. And I really loved it becauseLesley Logan 11:41   The effort you could give that day. Lesley Logan 11:52  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so that and that is what comes to mind when it's like resting might be giving it your all. So I just thought that she had some really great, honest, vulnerable things we could take away as we're, if you're listening, and you're trying to do something new in your life. What do you love? Brad Crowell 12:48  Yeah, so to me, this was like, like, right up my alley. She mentioned that, of course, the grass can be greener on the other side. But then reminded us that, you know, the way we see what people are presenting, we're only seeing what they want us to see. Right. So we have no idea what's going on behind the scenes and what people are actually struggling with. Right. And so she said countless people were looking at her going back to school saying, oh my God, you're so lucky. You get to go back to school. Right? And she's like, Yeah, well, I didn't feel lucky at all. This was actually super difficult for me to do really challenging for me to do, because they're comparing it to like they're bringing their own, you know, story to her conversation. Right. And it wasn't her reality. Right? It wasn't reality for her I mean, so they're saying like, Oh my God, that's so that's so lucky, good for you. Lucky for you. And she's like, actually, I'd rather be singing on stage. But I need to do this right now at this point in my life. So and then she also talked about the humbling experience and trying to balance multiple pursuits, right? How do you go back to school and have your you know, stage performing your career? And how do you balance all that stuff? And how do you treat yourself you know, because the conversation that it's really easy to again, like right in line with the grass being greener, greener on the other side, is you see what other people are doing? And you're like, I feel behind, right? And what you you two are talking about which I thought was really quite poignant.Lesley Logan 14:34  I was waiting for you to say poignant. I love an episode Brad brings up the word poignant.Brad Crowell 14:39  Is that it's possible that someone who's kicking ass doing something similar to you is only doing that thing. Again, you don't actually know. Right? So if they are able to focus, man, they really could be taking leaps and bounds in the place that you want to be, but you're doing two things, right? And so maybe you're not moving as quickly as them or, you know you're feeling behind. But for the for what's on your plate, you're you are actually moving forward at the pace that's possible when you're juggling multiple things, right? Yeah. And she said, That's really tough, especially for high achievers, because the ego kicks in and you really start beating yourself up.Lesley Logan 15:17  Yeah, well, what's the race like? What? What's the hurry? I think as a high recovering high achiever, overachiever, I'm gonna say overachiever as though because I am a recovering overachiever. One of the things I have constantly have to remind myself of is like, No one put the deadline there but me.Brad Crowell 15:34  Most often, it's our own deadline, right? Lesley Logan 15:36  We had in our adult lives in the last three and a half years, there was like one deadline, that was not our deadline that we had to meet goals by. Brad Crowell 15:47  You're talking about buying our house? Lesley Logan 15:49  Yes. Yeah. That was the only deadline that like, yeah, the only real deadline that like we had legit consequences. Every other deadline. It's like arbitrary. It's like the end of the year calendar. It's you know, like these are?Brad Crowell 16:03  I mean, there's opportunities with certain deadlines, like, now's the right time of the year to be marketing this or that. Lesley Logan 16:09  Correct. Brad Crowell 16:10  But it's not like a hard deadline.Lesley Logan 16:13  Yeah. And, you know, I was just listening to James Wedmore. He said, he's got so many coaches that he, he coaches, like so many entrepreneurs that he coaches, that every single one of them has done a sale at one particular time of every week of the year, summer, winter, spring fall, like, yes, there are these like lightning in a bottle dates, that could be awesome. If you make things happen by then. Yeah, but I really have to remind myself like what is for you will not pass you. Like what is for you will not pass you. So if what you're doing is literally the thing you are like, I should be doing this and everyone should be doing it for me. The results you're going to get the things you want are not going to pass you by Just because you weren't ready by some specific Tuesday holiday that really no one cares about. Yeah, like winter solstice. How many of you remember this? It's the same date, by the way. It's always 12-21. Always, you can't like it's always it's not like the second Tuesday of every fifth month. It's like the same day. It is okay to go guess well, we're doing Cyber Monday next time. Like you just take that pressure off because you're putting this pressure that there's this deadline that you made for yourself. Now. I love the deadline because for those procrastinators out there, it's what you need. But it's also okay to go well, I hit this obstacle and this obstacle cost me 30 days, well then move the deadline. 30 days, why are you killing yourself? Brad Crowell 17:35  Yeah. Also, you know, the other thing is to our other coach, Rory, basically says, you know, what you focus on is what's going to move forward. And if you try to focus on too many things, you're not going to move much forward. You know, or if you are, you just have to be okay, with knowing that they're only gonna move forward incrementally. Yep. You know, it's not gonna be leaps and bounds. So maybe focusing on less things will allow you to really move the needle on that one or two projects.Lesley Logan 18:07  Yeah, I'm in.Brad Crowell 18:09  All right. So finally, let's talk about those be it action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Janey Brown?Lesley Logan 18:20  I liked I liked this quote she gave where motivation lacks discipline must live. And we have talked about this before. If you've listened to any Be It pod, you probably have heard someone or myself say there's like motivation is not going to get you very far. It's a fickle friend. And so discipline, habits are the things you need to help you show up for yourself. And we actually are listening to this guy who I'm hoping to get on the pod. I just actually have to reach out to him. I'm sure it's totally possible. But he was talking about like pushing or pulling. And he's like, pushing is like willpower. And a lot of us is like put willpower and motivation the same way. Push it, you will get exhausted and it will not be there when you need it. It's notBrad Crowell 19:08  It's great for getting started. But, eventually. it fizzles. Right. You burn out.Lesley Logan 19:12  Yeah. BJ Fogg says in Tiny Habits, like motivation is really great if the start to doing something is harder. So for example, like you're trying to push a, you know, a rock up a hill, you need motivation at the beginning to get it going. But after that, it's going to be your habits that keep it going. So in the other example that we're talking about with push and pull, pulling are the things that you do, the minds that you have, the actions that you take that help welcome, and kind of pull you along, which is so much nicer, who wouldn't like to be pulled along? Gotta be honest. One day you pulled me in a wagon. That was a great dogwalk. Loved it. Loved it. Right. So at any rate, if you are struggling with your motivation, I want you to look at your habits. I want you to look at the discipline you have in your life, because that is what's keeping you from achieving the goals you want and the desires you have. It's not your motivation. It's not that you need more of it. What What about you? Brad Crowell 19:12  Yeah. So, you know, she mentioned, I thought this was really a fantastic follow-up to last week's episode where we were talking about our gut. Right? Or the what's the word that we rehearsed? No, the word that we were using in replacement of gut from last one we did on Wednesday?Lesley Logan 20:36  Intuition?Brad Crowell 20:38  Yeah. Where she was talking about our gut or our intuition. You know, the follow up from last week's episode, she also mentioned our heart. And ultimately, she mentioned our nervous system. And I thought this was really interesting, because we were talking about how do we get in touch with our how do we stay attuned, in tune with our gut? And she's, she mentioned that it's connected to the nervous system, right? And ultimately, what does it make your body feel like and what I really liked what she said, you know, it actually requires a, or not requires, but you can be more in tuned with your gut, through a physical practice of some way, whether that's running or Pilates, or yoga, or whatever. I mean, she does yoga, right? And she said, there's two types of yoga in this in the sense of what we're talking about here. One is the I'm gonna go in and beat the shit out of myself yoga. And then there's the other type of yoga where you're like, actually, like, being grounded and taking it easy and listening to yourself. That's a really beneficial way to be more in tune with your gut or more in tune with your nervous system. And when you're willing to listen to your body. Like you're literally listening to your body. So that's how you can stay more in touch with your gut. So I thought that was really, I thought that was really practical, helpful advice for something that like I said before, can be sometimes two woo's but it's not, it can be one woo here.Lesley Logan 22:06  So yeah, one woo all the way. Brad Crowell 22:09  Love it. I thought that was really great. Lesley Logan 22:11  Yeah. Well, how are you guys going to use the tips in your life? Like which ones were your takeaways? We want to know. We love hearing from you. And it's so much fun. I our Agency members tell us inside of agency all the time, which is like so fun. In fact, I've seen some of them quote people's Be It actions they're like hey, did you listen to this episode because that actually might help you here? I'm like, that's so great. Um, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 22:32  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 22:33  Thank you so much for joining us today. We are not taking a break during the holiday you're gonna get your episodes on the same cadence because I know what it's like to be on a travel trip and zero podcast in fact the day we're recording this I just want you to know I have one podcast in my Listen Now and I had to save it because I know Brad is gonna listen to it on the dog walk so because I don't want to leave your Listen Now's empty. We got some epic interviews, recaps, some FYFs they're all coming at you. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 23:06  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 23:08  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. Brad Crowell 23:39  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 23:44  It is produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo. Brad Crowell 23:48  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music, and our branding by designer and artist Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 23:55  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals and Ximena Velazquez for our transcriptions. Brad Crowell 24:00  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all the content to our website. And finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Janey's story is a testament to the power of embracing change and pursuing diverse passions. In this episode, Lesley explores Janey's remarkable transition from the world of music to academia, uncovering the intricacies of managing multiple lanes that require restructuring and pushing through discomfort.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:When to force yourself through fear and apply tough or tender love.Some grounding practices to connect with your intuition. Why do you need to be comfortable despite slow progress?How to restructure your mindset to cope with the challenges of multiple pursuits.The role of self-discipline when we lack motivation.Episode References/Links:Follow Janey on IGCheck out Janey's Website Fearce AcademyMentions, Be It Pod guest speaker Kate Wind episode 157Mentions, Jungian Psychology by Carl Gustav JungGuest Bio:Janey Brown is a seasoned speaker, coach, and accomplished singer, who leverages her expertise to inspire and guide individuals towards personal growth and self-discovery. With a strong commitment to mental well-being, Janey's work is a testament to her dedication to helping others navigate life's challenges  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. Get your free Athletic Greens 1 year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 and 5 free travel packsGet your discount for some Toe Sox using the code: LESLEY Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesFollow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Janey Brown 0:00  I've really battled with myself internally on feeling behind like that's probably one of my biggest negative internal narratives is like I'm behind, I'm behind. I'm not doing enough. I'm not going fast enough. Like, constantly comparing. It can get really brutal.Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:58  All right, loves, I got something cool for you today. So first of all, thank you for being here. Thank you for being a listener of the show. Thank you for hitting subscribe and line this download into your wherever you listen to podcasts. It means the world, you have no idea like you actually have no idea that when you listen to the end, that matter that when you download the podcast, it matters, that like when you share it with just one friend like it matters and podcast, any podcasts that you love. That is how they grow. It is definitely a community effort. And so I just wanna say thank you for being here. And helping me make this dream come true. Lesley Logan 1:30  We have such incredible guests coming out with, next that I am just, you know, it's so hard for me as someone who I've really I love instant gratification. And I also can't keep a secret. I mean, I can keep secrets, but like, when it's like not gonna hurt anyone. And it's my own secret to tell like, I can't keep it. And so it's sometimes it's so hard for me to not like share with you guys like all the amazing things that are coming out. But I can't wait for you to experience them and have their words in your ears. And today is one of those guests. When I came across Janey Brown, I really enjoyed how she talked about her journey, mental health and like, She's so honest and authentic around the journey that it takes to go back to school, and to put yourself in a space that's uncomfortable. And so we had a lovely conversation about what it was like to go on this journey to start something new. And also, like, get really clear on like, what is grounding? Like? What, how fast should we be going? Like, what is the pace? How do you how, like, how do you get it all done? And so really honest conversation that you're gonna have. You're gonna hear today and feel free to talk along with us. And then let us know what resonates with you enjoy this lovely conversation with Janey Brown. Lesley Logan 2:44  Hey, Be It babe. All right, get ready for a really fun conversation. I think it's going to be anyways, we haven't had it yet. But I'm predicting that to go that way. I really love our guest. When I came across her and what she's working on and the journey she's had. I was like, Oh my gosh, like this is a Be It story. Like in the making, we have to share it. So Janey Brown, will you tell everyone who you are and what you're up to these days? Janey Brown 3:05  Yeah, good to be here. Thanks for having me. I am a singer, performer, coach, and I'm actually student of psychology. So that's like the titles, who I am underneath all that is just a human trying to do the best they can. Lesley Logan 3:21  Yeah, I love it. You guys can't, unless you're watching on the YouTube channel, her microphone says be brave. And I just like really love that it's like reminding me throughout this whole conversation. Janey Brown 3:31  Reminds me, too. Lesley Logan 3:34  I'm like, I'm like, Oh, this for me. Thank you so much Janey Brown. And you're like it's actually for me, but thank you.Janey Brown 3:39  For everyone, everyone, totally. Lesley Logan 3:42  So Janey, you know, singer like that's, being a performer, my husband is a musician and like, that's a whole journey and being until you see it. And then for you to then become a student of psychology, I would just want to know, like, what, what took you from one route to the next? Like, how did that kind of come to be? Janey Brown 3:59  Yeah, it was a wild ride. Definitely. You're right about that in terms of the musician path. So I mean, very, very sort of, concisely. I've been a performer all my life. And that was sort of first and foremost my direction and path and passion. And then sort of in the you know, halfway through my performance career, let's say, I got into wellness. And, you know, that's been a whole other completely parallel career to my performance career. And then it just sort of got to a point where I realized that the only way for me to level up from where I was with two careers. Sort of ever evolving, obviously, but just sort of these two careers that were, you know, in sort of forward motion was to go to academia, that was something I've never done. And that's something I really didn't think I was capable of. And yeah, jumping into that has just been just so insanely beneficial. So yeah, that's kind of Lesley Logan 4:59  I think it's like, I think it's interesting. Like, I feel like anyone listening would be like, Oh my god, I'd love to be back in school any day of the week. And I would think it'd be like, so much harder to be like, I'm gonna go sing and perform. And I'm gonna be in the wellness industry like, those are like, those are like the things that scare them the most.Janey Brown 5:15  That's really a funny way to look at it. I've never thought about it like that. But yeah, I mean, for sure, like academia was so not my comfort zone, it was terrifying to approach that again, and like get back into it. It was so yeah, it definitely is reverse if people are afraid to get on stage like, academia was my like, stage fright or whatever. Lesley Logan 5:32  Yeah. So what did you do to like, kind of get comfortable? Or are you still in that process? Janey Brown 5:38  Well, honestly, I just forced myself like it. It's definitely easier. Now. It's not easy. But it's easier now than my first year. My first year was brutal. Like I just, I barely even wanted to do it. I just knew that I had to. And now like, I know, the ropes, and I'm sort of thinking like, Okay, this has been fun. I wonder what a Masters is, like, you know, because I know that that will be even more, you know, challenging and next level than then sort of, you know, the, the regular sort of degree or whatever. But it really has just been a matter of force yourself. I believe in tender love and self-compassion. But there is circumstances where tough love is needed. And you do actually just have to force yourself through the fear.Lesley Logan 6:22  Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I mean, like, I think also, like, the things that we were doing, we're drawn to do, we're drawn to do them, because there's something challenging about them, there is a little bit of uncertainty, like, Oh, what is this going to be? And also, like, you know, otherwise, you'd be bored. You know, it just gets so boring. So when you like, so obviously, there's the forcing yourself to just get comfortable with it. But like, I actually wonder what when you just mentioned like that tender love like that care like that self-care? What does that practice look like for you? Because I do think that that's actually, if that comes easier for you than like, the tough love of going to academia, I feel like some people can, can learn a lot about how you do that, how you have that practice in your life?Janey Brown 7:03  That's such a, that's such a great question, I would actually argue that tough love is way more natural for me than tender love. It's, it's hard to put into words, because I think that everyone has their own version of like, what self-care looks like, and what recovery looks like, kind of the same thing with what self-love looks like. When when it's tough love, it's sort of like ripping the band aid off. And when it's tender love, like, I use this metaphor, where it's like, if you were to get injured, the first initial kind of time of being injured and the wound is open, let's say you really can't, you know, tread on and force yourself to sort of like perform at the same level you're performing at because you're just going to keep bleeding. And you're going to, you know, you're going to lose consciousness, and you're actually just going to hurt yourself or make it even worse. So you have to kind of think about it, like it's this sort of fresh wound, and what would you do with a fresh wound, you would like, clean it and you'd sit there kind of in solitude and or with support, and you'd kind of process it and you'd bandage it up. And you'd, you'd kind of be gentle with it, and you'd stay away from you know, using it and then eventually the wound is going to heal. And if you keep the bandaid on for too long, the skin is going to atrophy and rot and like you have to rip it off. So I think knowing when to be tender and when to be tough is a personal thing, but they are both needed in terms of you know, what, what makes you sort of the best version of yourself. And the methods that you use to be tender or tough are also I think, really personal. (Inaudible) someone's goals are.Lesley Logan 8:44  Yeah, that's such a, I love that description that was like, really, I think anyone can take that away and then figure how to put their own their own spin on what Tinder love looks like them. And I also do think it is true. Like, you know, I always call myself a recovering perfectionist and overachiever. But like when you're a perfectionist, you're like, okay, but like what, like, what, how many minutes of tender love versus like, how many minutes of the tough love, like, how long are we going to be here? And I think it's like, you know, unfortunately, you'll have to explore aJaney Brown 9:11  little bit. Yeah, yeah. Right. Like, you have to be in touch with your intuition and your heart and your soul and sort of all of the mushy gushy stuff and the stuff that's not tangible. In order to know like, when to pivot and when to Yeah, when to when to rest and when to give it your all. And sometimes resting is giving it your all.Lesley Logan 9:33  Yes, okay, like, everyone hit rewind, sometimes rest is giving it your all. I agree, because it's like, sometimes it's the thing that we need the most. Yeah, you know, I find that, you know, a lot of people have a hard time going with their gut with their intuition because there's like, it's hard to understand, like, there's the voice. It's like imposter syndrome. Fear, like, like trying to keep you safe. And then there's that gut voice. It's like, No, you should actually go that way that actually Is it a good idea? How did you get like, was that something natural to you? What? Or have you been able to like articulate in ways that people can maybe try to understand when they're like actually paying attention to their gut? They're listening to their intuition.Janey Brown 10:13  Such a great question. I think the instinct that I mean, yes, it was natural for sure. For me, walking the path of an artist and an entrepreneur, which I've done, you know, all my life has always been super reliant on, like, what does it feel like, though, and I think a good place that people can start if they're looking to get more in touch with that, like we say things like our gut, and we say things like our heart. But what I really actually think specifically it is, is our nervous system, like what does our nervous system make our body feel like and that's a practice to get in touch with your body to be grounded in your body, and to know kind of what the differences between let's say, fear that's merited because you are sensing danger and just fear of something that could happen, and it's actually not imminent. And it really is this thing that you need to take a risk on, you know, there is a line there. And it takes practice to get to know that and in our society, we really value like intellectualizing things, and, you know, sort of overriding ourselves, and that can kind of take us further away from that, quote, unquote, gut instinct, or following your heart. But I think a good place to start is like, How can I personally get in touch with my body so that I can understand like, neurologically, you know, what my body is telling me and the wisdom of that, and that could be as simple as like, starting to go to yoga and doing, you know, a practice that's more introspective, rather than like power yoga, where you're just kind of like, kicking your own ass or whatever, right, back to the back to the old routine, you know?Lesley Logan 11:48  Right. Right. I love that you brought up yoga as a great grounding practice, like what are some other grounding practices that you have found?Janey Brown 11:56  I mean, right now, in general, there's sort of this wave and movement of somatic base practices like somatic coaches, and therapists and things like that, that I would definitely recommend people kind of looking into. But for me, it's funny, because any movement-based practice really can be introspective, as long as you're intentional. So like, a run can be meditative. You know, crushing it on the stairs, or leg day or whatever, yoga, all of those things can be deeply, you know, somatic experience and introspective, if you actually apply, you know, your mindfulness to it.Lesley Logan 12:35  Yeah, that's such a great point. I've been hobby hunting, and at the time, we're recording this. Today, I'm gonna go rock climbing for the second time. And like, it's not an actual real rock guy. So it's not actually the ground. But like, also, like you're getting as far away from the ground, but there's something because you can only focus on like, where's my hand going, can I reach that is my foot gonna stay on this like little knob thing that I don't really feel safe on, like, you know, like, you have to, you can only go inward, you know, and so it doesn't actually I can be things that are off the ground and not laying down and you could still ground it.Janey Brown 13:10  Oh my gosh, I so agree with that. Bouldering is is such a fun activity. And if you like climbing and you like being in the air, and another thing that you might like, which is this is kind of my version of bouldering is aerial silks, it's, it's dubbed as, as dancing in the air. It's not aerial yoga, where there's this like, contraption, it's two ribbons that hang from the ceiling, and then you climb up them. And you put yourself in different wraps and do different drops and different movements and poses and stuff. And it's, it's very physically challenging, but it's so like, it's like physically, as equally physically challenging as it is sort of this experience of freedom and, and just sort of expression. And I don't know, like, if that's speaking to you, but it is, it is something I equate with bouldering just because it's the back muscles and you're climbing and you're in the air and like yeah, tension like,Lesley Logan 14:01  Yeah, yeah, you can't be distracted those things. I think that those are important little practices to have like something where you can actually like, get lost in the the practice versus like your, you know, you can run and not be intentional and think about your day, you can also do all those things. Some of these things, you'll actually hurt yourself if you are not, but I think that that's, I think too often be like, Oh, I have to have like this yoga practice and I don't like yoga or they don't have access to yoga or just doesn't like light their fire. It's like actually it can be anything and you brought it intention. Intent is like the key there. What so okay, like academia drew you in? Why psychology? What was like the thing that was like, I'm gonna go towards this as I could barely pick a major. So I'm just like, always intrigued, that someone can actually make that decision.Janey Brown 14:49  Well, I mean, it you know, I'm assuming that you did yours much younger. And if that's the case, no wonder you couldn't pick a major like we're all just trying to figure it. I mean, we're trying to figure it out forever. are, but it's, you know, you might have a bit more clarity when you are an adult. So I definitely have compassion for that. For me, Psych just seems like the natural thing because I was already, as an extracurricular sort of, you know, poll, I was already studying things like trauma, like doing trauma certifications, I was already studying psychology because I was in therapy. So I was getting to know my own psychology, and, you know, managing my own mental health challenges. And it just, it just made sense for me to kind of, and also, to be honest, I didn't know what else I would do. It's like, I could do like performance arts, but I don't think I need a degree in that. You know what I mean? Like, let me let me go outside the box here. So yeah, it just seems it just seemed to make sense based on, you know, my own like life path.Lesley Logan 15:49  Yeah, yeah. We had a guest on here recently, she's actually an astrologer, and a Feng Shei person, but she has a degree in psychology. So when you cool work with her, shout out to Kate (inaudible) when you work with her, and she's like reading your chart or reading the cards, like it's actually with a degree of psychology behind it. So it's like, it's almost like going out there. It's like going to therapy, but with like, some sort of, like, here's why the stars are like this, and this way (inaudible). Janey Brown 16:16  That's really cool. I love that. I love that. And I love that she's doing that. Because there is like, you know, a very strong rebuttal against like Pseudoscience in the world of, you know, it's psychology is a science. So it's, it's, but it's but you know, to me, it's only a pseudoscience until it's not like, one once upon a time, we didn't really believe in mindfulness. And then it was studied extensively. And here we are, you know, it's completely signed to a Lesley Logan 16:40  You can get a degree in it at UCLA. Janey Brown 16:42  Yeah, exactly. So like, so I love that, you know, she has this scientific grounding and merit, but she's also like, Yeah, but I'm going to explore this other thing that also seems to be, you know, intriguing. And there's something there, because we all keep returning to it. Lesley Logan 16:56  So Okay. When people hear stories like yours, one of the things they've probably always come back to is like, Okay, I'm inspired. But like, the time like, this is a whole shift in Persona, it's a shift in your schedule. What was that like to go from like, you know, wellness and music to like, adding in, like an actual degree, like, that's not, you know, that's for students that's a full-time job. So like, right, like, how did you create space in your life to, to do that?Janey Brown 17:27  I mean, definitely, I had to put a few things on, I don't want to say the back burner, but just like a little bit more in the background, like, you know, I'm still performing, I performed every single year of my life for 26 years, and that I don't intend to stop. But you know, I'm not as you know, for sure, I wasn't as able to focus on gigs as consistently. And right now, you know, I'm finishing up my degree, I'm due to graduate this year. And I've had to kind of just scale back on pushing forward with different speaking gigs. And you know, all the things that I'm doing coaching, even building my business, it's just slower. It's sort of like, if you're watering, if you're like a farmer, and you have all these different rows of vegetables, and you're, you know, if you're focused on one thing, you can water that lane, like super quickly, but for me, it's sort of like, okay, I can take the first kind of five rows, and like water, water, water, water, and then like, move to the next. I'm talking about rows. And it's confusing, but you know what I'm saying it's like, I'm kind of watering each plant, let's say in the five rows one at a time. And so I'm moving forward, much, much slower, because I'm taking on kind of all these things at once. So that's kind of the only difference. It's like, you can make the time for as much as you as many activities as you want. You'll just move slower in each of the lanes than you would if you were just focused on one and I don't think one is worse than the other. I would, you know, love to just focus on one, but here we are. Lesley Logan 18:57  Yeah, I think like, I love that. I could picture it with you. Um, mostly because like, I grew up in a farm area.Janey Brown 19:06  But I'm glad I did it justice. Lesley Logan 19:08  Yeah, yeah. But, um, but I think it's also like, there's a difference between one or the other is that, if you are comfortable with it, like is actually just like being comfortable, like, I am going to go slower because I am watering five different crops at a time as opposed to like focusing on one crop like, so it's kind of like it's, I think you're I think it's absolutely right. And I think too often people are like, they see the grass is greener on the other side. But really, it's like, no, the person with that grass just has come with the I'm only going to have one crop, and I'm gonna go real fast. Whereas you eventually want five crops, but you're gonna it's going to feel like you're behind until, you know, you catch up at some point. Janey Brown 19:50  You just summarize that perfectly and like it was not comfortable for me to do that at all. Like I I've really battled with myself internally on feeling behind like, that's probably one of my biggest negative internal narratives is like I'm behind them behind I'm not doing enough, I'm not going fast enough like, yeah, and you summarize the feeling of that and the image of that perfectly it's it's like, constantly comparing and in each lane to like in academia like so far behind because I'm you know, I still have like my business and singing so like, in each of the like genres of activity, it's been comparing to other people who are much (inaudible) so it's, it can get really brutal if you if you aren't on top of like your own mindset around that you have to really like restructure it, but it's been super challenging.Lesley Logan 20:38  Yeah, I mean, like, I've, like, I haven't been in a classroom in a while. But I will say like, I mean, I tried Brad and I tried to take Spanish class a couple of times. And to be honest, we were doing the homework on the car on the way there, so we were not studying. So like. So since I actually was an intentional student, like actually applying things. You know, I, I'll say like, I was in a group mastermind with, like, 40 people, and I remember like, someone going up, and she had been in the fitness industry for much longer than me. And she like, had scaled it to seven figures her business, and I'm like, Oh, my God, like, I'm so behind. And yet, when it came down to my speaking about what I've been doing, and then we had a big accountability partner, she's like, I want you to be my accountability partner. And I was like, you want to be like yours? You're like, you're where I want to be. You know, so it's so funny. The stories we tell ourselves about her being behind, because like, even the person ahead of you might actually looking back, like looking back and air quotes, and going, "Oh, my God, look where they are. Look what they've done. I want to do that." Janey Brown 21:44  Yeah, oh, it's so true. It's so true. Like, we have no idea what's going on behind the scenes and what people are struggling with. And yeah, I've had countless people saying, say to me, like, I would love to go back to school. Like, you're so lucky. You know what I mean? Like this. And, you know, for a minute, I did not feel lucky. I felt like I had to do it, you know, which is ridiculous. But that was my own limitation at that time. But like, yeah, for sure. I mean, the grass really is always greener. For sure.Lesley Logan 22:11  Yeah, I am. I used to think about that, like many, many, many years ago. And I, I'm not saying that. I'll never go back to school, but I'll be really honest. I just don't see myself taking on one major any like, I'm just, I don't think I could do it. So I'm in admiration. And also I do see like, having a background in psychology helps with, with people, so many jobs. Like even if you want to be a chef, want to own a restaurant, having the understanding the way people's minds think matters in building a restaurant and building a menu and also like it really, I mean, like, you couldn't have picked a better degree if you're gonna go back and do that intentionally. But it is so funny how we we tell ourselves these whoppers and we get a little stuck on like, Oh, they're further ahead, or oh my god, it's so nice for them, or Oh, I wish I and right, we don't actually think about like, well, what if I did it? How could I do it? And would it be possible? And like going back to what you said, it's like, well, it's possible you just have you'll just go slower, you'll just instead of taking going to school full time.Janey Brown 23:14  Absolutely. Absolutely. And that it's humbling, like yes, your your ego is going to take a hit for sure. Especially if you're a high achiever, and you're, you know, you have all these goals, and it's, it's like, your ego is going to take a hit. But that's good for you too, right? Like, in the same way that like, you know, your muscles are gonna be sore after you do leg day. Like that's, you know, that's a good sign. It's not to say that you can't walk the next day. I'm not suggesting like, Go out of your capacity. But yeah, like, I think that, you know, deciding to do something at the expense of the optics that you've so delicately created for yourself is actually a good thing. And we don't see it like that. And I don't see it, like, I barely see it like that, too, right? It's like in this conversation, I'm able to say that but like, in practicality, it's such a resistance around, you know, doing something that I think is getting in the way of like, my, like best life and optimal dream. And all the things.Lesley Logan 24:15  So what are you excited about right now? Like, what are you being until you see as we speak?Janey Brown 24:20  I am excited about real. I mean, I'm definitely excited about graduating. I'm also excited about I have a song that I'm releasing in, I think in May a new song and a book that I'll be releasing later this year. Lesley Logan 24:35  Oh my goodness.Janey Brown 24:37  I worked really hard on. Lesley Logan 24:38  Yeah. Oh my god, like, okay, a song and a book and graduating. So tell us about your book. Is that going to be published? People can go get it. What what is it about? Janey Brown 24:47  Yeah, for sure. It's I'm gonna self-publish this one. It's sort of I would describe it as like a pocket self-help book. It's, you know, it's going to be maybe 150 to 200 pages. We're still in edits right now. So things can change and more material can be added or taken away still. But it's the material is basically the process of transformation with you and your dark side. So we all have a shadow self. And the shadow self is this aspect that we've, it's these aspects of ourselves that we've deemed unacceptable to ourselves and to society. So the things we're ashamed of the things that are too painful, or that we're too afraid of, to look out, we kind of shove those into the shadows, like literally. And the problem is that they need to be, they actually need to be integrated. This is Yang Yin psychology, it's not my idea, you know, he, he understood that we needed to integrate these sort of shadow aspects that live in our unconsciousness, or else they will sort of come out sideways and hold us back prevent us from taking risks, you know, stopping us from being optimal, whether it be physical, mental, or emotional, or financial, or career-wise, right? Janey Brown 26:02  So, I, I had stage fright for many, many years, and on the process in the process, which is crazy, because I performed so often, but in the process of me, you know, managing that and learning to overcome that, I really, really was connected with my shadow side and my dark side, and I saw how integral that was to, to become whole and to actually shine brighter. So the the book itself is essentially like a process, it takes you on a process, it's, there's a bit of psychoeducation in there, and there's a bit of storytelling in there. But it's mostly process, the process of how you can face your how one way, let's say to face your shadow side, and there's like six modules or six chapters that sort of go through that stuff. You know, so that you can live your most fulfilling life and so they are not held back by these, these unconscious. You know, negs that are, unbeknownst to you holding you back in life or, or even renounced you holding you back in life. Like, here's how you can face that in yourself. Yeah. So that's kind of the gist of it. It's called Fear to Fierce and the tagline is, essentially, you know, Embracing Your Dark Side So That You can Unlock Your Mental Warrior.Lesley Logan 27:18  That's so cool. That's so cool. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. You're about to come out, we'll make sure that we put in the shownotes the links to it and everything when this comes out. Okay. Wow, you're just like, just taking on the world. And I love it and doing your best.Janey Brown 27:31  Just like you. Lesley Logan 27:32  True. That's amazing. Okay, everyone, we'll take a brief break. And I'm going to find out your Be It Action Items and where people can find you, probably, get your book when it's ready. Lesley Logan 27:43  All right, Janey, so where do you like to hang out? If you have the time to be on social? Where is that? And where can people get your book when it's ready?Janey Brown 27:50  Yeah, so janeybrown.com is my website. J-A-N-E-Y Brown, like the color and all my social accounts are, you know, at the bottom, or whatever at the bottom, and you can kind of branch out from there. YouTube channel. Most of my social channels are just Jane B world. And I think YouTube is Janey Brown. So pretty easy to remember. That's the social stuff, the book. I mean, the book should be, even though I'm self-publishing it, it should be available on stores like Amazon, I am going to do an audio version as well. So that will be on Audible. But yeah, the publishing the publishing company I haven't or the self-publishing company, I haven't decided yet. But it will disseminate the material across all online stores that you can then purchase the physical copy. Yeah, so that's we're looking at kind of early fall, but I know it could change. But yeah, that will be what happens. Lesley Logan 28:46  Congratulations, we've self published as well. And so in the in the book world now it's like, you can go either way, depending on like, what you want to do, and like what it's for, and like how fast you want to get out there. And like oftentimes, like having a publisher, it's like having an investor in your business. They're gonna tell you what they want to see in that book.Janey Brown 29:03  Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I've heard that as well. And I'm not opposed to future but this just didn't it didn't make sense to do it like that. For this. It's just a little treat that I'm offering. Lesley Logan 29:13  I love it. I love it. Okay, for like, you know, bold, executable, intrinsic targets steps people can take to be till you see it, what do you have for us?Janey Brown 29:20  Okay, so my, this is, you know, on the concept of building habits, right? I'm such a strong believer in healthy habits, your habits make up your life in the same way that your cells make up your body. My catchphrase or let's say like a quote that I always say to myself, and my clients is where motivation lacks discipline must live. We're not always going to be intrinsically motivated and magically inspired to do the things we have to do and when that's not there, which often isn't. We just have to sort of push through the muck and that's where discipline comes in. It's the discipline aspect of these healthy habits is this decision to like, go when you don't feel like it. And obviously use discernment. Like if you're injured, don't push through that, like, that's where we get back to the tender love stuff. But, you know, there's a lot to be said about, you know, the tough love aspect and having to sort of force yourself through the discomfort, not out of your capacity so that you're traumatizing yourself, but force yourself through the discomfort in order to create this discipline so that eventually it just kind of becomes a need, it's this thing you don't even think about. It's like yeah, yeah, of course, I'm going to the gym. Even though it's pouring rain in a blizzard and horizontal ice shards in Canada or whatever. Like.Lesley Logan 30:40  No, I love this. I mean, I get up walk the dog every morning. And trust me, like I got rid of a clock that has there's no snooze button on my clock. Like I just have to get up. And I go on the walk. And like sometimes I'm so excited to go on the walk because the sky is beautiful. And other days. I'm like, Oh, is it really raining? Do we think we should go out in that? And it's like No, get out there. It's not actually raining and take an umbrella in case it starts like yeah, this sort of line is needed when the motivation is not there. I love that. Janey Brown 31:11  Yeah, it's huge. And I love that I love that you gave that example because it really like the weather really is a huge excuse that we all tend and honestly like the more you put yourself like sometimes I deliberately it was like negative 20 Celsius a little while ago in Canada and I was like I'm specifically going to make sure I stay out for an hour for 60 minutes at least going for a walk so that nothing else is going to seem as bad and there's less excuses then to follow this year right I mean yeah still excuses here and there but it's like if I can go out in that I can you know it same thing I go people with cold plunge, they're doing cold plunges have a similar mentality. It's like if you can do that, like you can go out in the rain in California or like in the summer or whatever, you know?Lesley Logan 31:54  Yeah. Yeah, I I started my cold showers after I talked to these brain doctors, and I clearly was like, like, my cognition was like, not great, like on it's on a recording y'all. And I was like, wow, I am. I mean, I knew that it wasn't great, because I wasn't sleeping very well. But now it's like, terrible. And I was I said, I'm gonna like we talked about cold showers and I was like, Oh, I can do that. I think I'm just gonna start to do that. And having this one that's like a daily there's it never gets easier. That cold shower is not easier. I don't care. I've been doing it for a month now. And you all it's like, as soon as it starts hitting my back, I'm like, oh my god, I bet I have a headache attack. But it makes everything else seem easier. And I'm in a much better mood when it's over. So that's 'lit.Lesley Logan 31:54  That's amazing. That's an amazing habit. I'll tell you like, I've certainly done cold plunges. But I haven't I have not gotten into the daily cold shower yet. Lesley Logan 32:20  A cold plunge is way easier. I'm gonna tell you. Janey Brown 32:39  Oh like, I bet. Lesley Logan 32:51  I didn't think so I was like, oh my god, submerge yourself. No, I would, I would more easily jump into a cold plunge. Then you stand in the shower. You have to like force yourself. Like you have to force yourself to keep making the decision. It is not fun. But the discipline around like, well, actually, it's like, the motivation isn't there to get in a shower. But I know what's on the other side of it. And sometimes it's like doing that tough love stuff. Because on the other side is like exactly how you want to feel that day exactly the strength you want to have. And so what a great way to sum up like, I think so many people have a hard time with habits and like it's so true, like discipline is the thing you need when motivation lacks and the reality is it's like BJ Fogg put it best like in his book Tiny Habits he's like motivation is that like friend who's like super awesome to go to a party with but you would never ask them to pick you up at the airport. Like they're just not reliable.Janey Brown 33:43  Amazing. Oh, that's an amazing way to summarize that. I love that.Lesley Logan 33:47  Yeah. That's great. Janey, you're amazing. You're great. You're doing amazing things. If this is your first book of many things you're gonna put out to the world to like, you know, keep changing all of us for the better. Thank you so much for being here. How are you all going to use these tips in your life? Tag Janey Brown, tag the Be It pod. Share this with a friend. Grab her book. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 34:08  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Lesley Logan 34:36  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. Brad Crowell 34:39  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 34:44  It is produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo. Brad Crowell 34:48  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music, and our branding by designer and artist Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 34:55  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals and Ximena Velazquez for our transcriptions. Brad Crowell 35:01  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all the content to our website. And finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

What does bravery mean to you? In this episode of From Survivor to Thriver, we had the amazing opportunity to sit down with Janey Brown to talk about her journey through trauma and how she used music as medicine to the “madness” of her mental health journey. Music led her down a path that taught her bravery, courage, and what it means to be fearless. She now uses her experiences and knowledge to help others who are struggling like she did. Janey Brown is a trauma-informed coach, professional singer, and keynote speaker who helps people build resilience to fear, and manage mental health, so they can radiate confidence in front of any audience. She's currently studying psychology at Queen's University and will be publishing her first book in 2023. Her latest single “Thank You for Loving Me” is, in her words, for anyone who wrestles with their dark side on the daily and is meant to inspire a sense of connection and belonging between you and your loved ones, and, most importantly, between you and you. In today's episode, we cover: The way Janey uses music as her medicine to heal from traumaSublimation as a trauma response What happens when the things you love are made transactionalThe artistic liberation of making music purely for yourselfThe power of practicing beingnessWhy we love art that amplifies lifeThe difference between bravery and courageThe way that Fearce Academy was created and who it's forHow Janey became fearless as a performerThe bravery in taking a breakThe fear of rejection that causes social anxietyWhat your shadow self really is and why it's not as scary as you thinkWe hope you enjoyed our conversation with Janey! If you want to learn more about her work or Fearce Academy, you can check out her website, or follow her on Instagram. Make sure to listen to her music on Spotify!Thanks again for tuning in. We are so grateful to each and every one of you. Please remember to leave a rating and review of our show. It helps us grow and reach those who need it. Also, make sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! Links: Visit Janey's websiteFollow Janey on InstagramCheck out her music on Spotify Follow Janey on LinkedInVisit our website: https://fromsurvivortothriver.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brushcreekthriversFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brushcreekthrivers/Get in touch: amgits.reverse@gmail.com“A lot of people battle with self-worth and self-esteem issues. And I really think understanding that you still deserve love is a ritual rather than an epiphany.” -Janey “Sometimes the bravest or more courageous thing you can do is take a step back and rest.” -Janey “You cannot be brave unless you have courage.” -Marc“The better you become at embracing your fears, over time, the easier they are to overcome.” -Erik

Today's story, Janey Brown, dives deep into the powerful world of music and its profound impact on mental health. From Janey's fearless early performances to her high school years marked by feelings of entrapment, we follow her journey through performance anxiety and the influencing factors of nature vs. nurture in this context. Janey is a coach with expertise in trauma, a professional singer, and a keynote speaker. She also studies psychology and plans to publish her first book in 2023.Janey bares her soul, sharing her struggles with unresolved trauma and mental health issues that demanded her attention. Hear her story of juggling roles: from being a martial artist and performer to a fitness industry worker and aspiring musician. Witness the power of her voice, her very lifeline, fading away, and the terrifying liberation she experiences in its absence. Janey's quest for healing begins with vocal therapy - a transformative journey that enlightens and inspires.As we journey further, Janey shares her personal growth and transformation story and how she merged art, music, and mental health to create FEARCE Academy. Gain insight into her upcoming book and her decision to let go of titles and attachments to reduce suffering. Join us in this compelling exploration of the symbiotic relationship between music/ art and mental health and how Janey turned her challenges into opportunities for growth and healing. To connect with Janey: https://janeybrown.com/Her new song: https://open.spotify.com/track/4ZJAFNt8KEh9LpeHPV2hgd?si=KV_gfMZJQWKil5fUN9O1-wSupport the showTo Share - Connect & Relate: To be on the show Podmatch Profile Email us at behas.podcats@gmail.com Thank you for listening - Hasta Pronto!

On today's episode we are going to discuss how we can turn our fears in to FUEL!Janey Brown is a trauma-informed coach, professional singer and keynote speaker.Founder of the Fearce Academy, she helps people build resilience to fear and manage mental health so they can radiate confidence in front of any audience. Currently studying psychology at Queen's University, she will be publishing her first book in 2023. In this episode Janey shares her journey, how she has struggled with astonishing stage fright and how fighting her fears weakened her to the point of her mental and physical health being consumed.After avidly studying psychology and trauma since 2014, what was once her fear has now become her FUEL.She founded Fearce Academy to provide the mental health, emotional intelligence, confidence and leadership skills she lacked coming up in the entertainment industry, especially around mindset and fear.We've all been taught that fear is a weakness, but after years of fighting fears and losing, Janey  shows us that fear is just an untapped source of fuel. When honed, fear can actually become our friend. Enjoy!Connect with Janey on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/janeybworld and https://linktr.ee/janeybworldCreditsTailoring Talk Intro and Outro Music by Wataboy on PixabayEdited & Produced by Roberto RevillaConnect with Roberto head to https://allmylinks.com/robertorevillaEmail the show at tailoringtalkpodcast@gmail.comSupport the show

Hello, welcome back to another episode of the podcast. My guest today is Janey Brown. She's a trauma-informed coach, professional singer, and keynote speaker. Janey helps people build resilience to fear and manage mental health, which will help them radiate confidence in front of any audience. In this episode, we talked about: Some of the most common types of anxiety disorders  How performance anxiety leads to social anxiety  Strategies for overcoming anxiety And more Links ⁠Show notes⁠ Conversation with Mayi Lenz's Instagram Conversation with Mayi Lenz Facebook

Join 6AMRun.com Ambassador and Host, Marc Paisant, as we welcome Recording Artist Janey Brown. Over the last two decades, Janey Brown has performed in front of thousands of people, written and published songs with Grammy award-winning and multi-platinum producers, and has coached a variety of artists. She also has years of experience teaching ent, mindfulness and mental resilience to corporate executives, as well as athletes in the NHL, Olympics, NASCAR and MLS. Deeply concerned with the rising global suicide rates, Brown now deploys her coaching mostly in the field of “mental fitness,” otherwise known as mindset. In 2014, she became a mental health advocate and currently co-leads nonprofit Blu Matter Project's “Mand Trauma Sensitive Training”, which includes education on addiction, anxiety, depression, and suicide prevention. It's no secret to the public that for most of her career, Brown has struggled with mental illness herself due to untreated complex PTSD. Though what was once her fear is now the fuel that operates “Fearce Academy,” a wellness company Brown built to help ners, speakers and entrepreneurs manage imposter syndrome and achieve mental health, so they can “radiate confidence in front of any audience.” Since launching Fearce Academy in 2017, Brown has impacted people of all ages across North America with her mental health education and motivational keynotes. She has appeared on the stages of SXSW and Toronto Metro Convention Centre, as well as on such networks as CityTV, WBTV (CBS) and TSN. When Brown isn't coaching or performing, she's devoted to furthering her University studies in the field of psychology and trauma to better serve her community. Her mission is simple: To uplift others so they can keep uplifting others. Please visit: https://janeybrown.com/ to learn more. To be a guest, or share your story with the 6AM Run Community apply at: https://forms.gle/hBHCKpYKT6R9tH6m7 6AM Run believes in improving everyone's physical ability to not only have motion, but STAY IN MOTION. All this while creating an amazing supportive, surrounding community. Run Faster, Farther, & Recover For More Runs! 6amrun.com #6amrunSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Happy Friday Friends! It is cold & snowy in the Chicagoland area. Makes me want to cuddle up with my dogs and nap all day, but here we are with a new release. I love this next guest. She is another member of my #bossbabe tribe. I swear my guests never cease to amaze me. My next guest shares her journey on overcoming her fear as a performer which led to creating her own academy to help others. Please welcome PREMIERE guest Janey Brown! "Over the last two decades, I've performed in front of THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE and struggled with astonishing stage fright most of the way.I used to try and “fight” my fears, achieve perfection and never show weakness.All that did was weaken me further, induce a deep sense of loneliness from abandoning myself and turn my fear into a monster. Eventually, this way of living devoured my physical and mental health.After avidly studying psychology and trauma since 2014, what was once my fear has now become my FUEL.I founded Fearce Academy to provide the mental health, emotional intelligence, confidence and leadership skills I lacked coming up in the entertainment industry, especially around mindset and fear.I was taught that fear is a weakness, but after years of fighting fears and losing, it's clear now that fear is just an untapped source of fuel. When honed, fear can actually become our friend." To learn more or to connect with Janey, head to the Links ⬇️:https://janeybrown.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/janeybrown/https://www.instagram.com/janeybworld/Todays episode is brought to you by,  @BrianTracyOfficial , world-class speaker, author, and leader dedicated to transforming the lives of millions. To access his  FREE e-book; The 6-Figure SpeakerThe Ultimate Blueprint To Build A BusinessAs A Highly-Paid Professional Speaker, click the link ⬇️ https://www.briantracy.com/success/6-figure-speaker/op/six-figure-speaker-book-free-a.html?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=postaffiliatepro.com&utm_campaign=six-figure&utm_content=ebook-optin-page&utm_term=RadioReady&visitorid=MZJPcHbYwivajjDBhQtQ6PXJpbhBk8MQAs always thank you for the support, to contact me directly follow the link below:https://www.labelfreepodcast.com​ Stay Healthy, Stay Ready- Deanna Marie Radulescu#ad​​ #sponsor​ #podcastguest #labelfreepodcast  #onairpersonality #nationallysyndicated #sponsor #briantracypartner #trauma #traumahealing

Happy Friday Friends! It is cold & snowy in the Chicagoland area. Makes me want to cuddle up with my dogs and nap all day, but here we are with a new release. I love this next guest. She is another member of my #bossbabe tribe. I swear my guests never cease to amaze me. My next guest shares her journey on overcoming her fear as a performer which led to creating her own academy to help others. Please welcome PREMIERE guest Janey Brown! "Over the last two decades, I've performed in front of THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE and struggled with astonishing stage fright most of the way.I used to try and “fight” my fears, achieve perfection and never show weakness.All that did was weaken me further, induce a deep sense of loneliness from abandoning myself and turn my fear into a monster. Eventually, this way of living devoured my physical and mental health.After avidly studying psychology and trauma since 2014, what was once my fear has now become my FUEL.I founded Fearce Academy to provide the mental health, emotional intelligence, confidence and leadership skills I lacked coming up in the entertainment industry, especially around mindset and fear.I was taught that fear is a weakness, but after years of fighting fears and losing, it's clear now that fear is just an untapped source of fuel. When honed, fear can actually become our friend." To learn more or to connect with Janey, head to the Links ⬇️:https://janeybrown.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/janeybrown/https://www.instagram.com/janeybworld/Todays episode is brought to you by,  @BrianTracyOfficial , world-class speaker, author, and leader dedicated to transforming the lives of millions. To access his  FREE e-book; The 6-Figure SpeakerThe Ultimate Blueprint To Build A BusinessAs A Highly-Paid Professional Speaker, click the link ⬇️ https://www.briantracy.com/success/6-figure-speaker/op/six-figure-speaker-book-free-a.html?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=postaffiliatepro.com&utm_campaign=six-figure&utm_content=ebook-optin-page&utm_term=RadioReady&visitorid=MZJPcHbYwivajjDBhQtQ6PXJpbhBk8MQAs always thank you for the support, to contact me directly follow the link below:https://www.labelfreepodcast.com​ Stay Healthy, Stay Ready- Deanna Marie Radulescu#ad​​ #sponsor​ #podcastguest #labelfreepodcast  #onairpersonality #nationallysyndicated #sponsor #briantracypartner #trauma #traumahealing

What does it mean to be truly vulnerable? Is it a superpower or weakness? And how can brands benefit from letting down their guards and embrace vulnerability? In this episode we speak with professional singer and trauma-informed coach Janey Brown about The Brand of Vulnerability.

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Brian Crombie speaks to Janey Brown, an inspirational young performer, who wants us all to build stage presence and confidence, what she calls Fearce! Janey is a singer songwriter, trauma-informed mindset coach and the founder of the Fearce Academy. Janey Brown has performed for thousands, written songs with Grammy artists, given motivational keynotes and taught movement and mindset to many Pro athletes. She now coaches “mental fitness” because she had to struggle through mental illness due to untreated complex PTSD.

​ Achieving optimal mental health requires a multitude of methods. Learn how the methods of Movement, Music and Mindset can be utilized consistently to create mental resilience.

Who is the Guest?: Over the last two decades, Janey Brown has performed in front of thousands of people, worked with Grammy award winning producers and developed artists in various musical genres. She has also taught movement and mindset to athletes in the NHL, Olympics, NASCAR and MLS, as well as to hundreds of aspiring coaches across North America.It's no secret to the public that Janey struggled with anxiety for over half of both her careers. Ultimately though, her darkness became her diamond. What was once her fear is now the fuel that operates "Fearce Academy", a wellness company she built to help brave artists, athletes and leaders face their fears, hone their craft and make a bigger impact.Janey believes in one simple equation: FEARS + FIERCE = FEARCE.Cool Links & Tools:Instagram: @janeybworld@fearceacademySupport the show (https://www.hundredlifedesign.com/podcasts/)

Janey Brown is a singer/performer, wellness leader, performance mindset coach and rockstar. She's overcome depression and sharing her story while teaching others how to be brave enough to love our fears. Find more on Janey at www.JaneyBrown.com @janeybworld

Having obstacles in our lives can help us become the best versions of ourselves and Janey Brown has shown that to be the case. Janey shares the tools she’s learned in those difficult moments to teach others how to overcome through her performance mindset and wellness programs. Tune in to learn more about how you can overcome your own fears.

Janey Brown takes-over the Creating Space Podcast to deliver 3 tools from her Performance Mindset Program. The TrifectA: 3 actionable A's to create any change. Reach out to Janey Brown on Instagram or learn more about Janey at her website: Instagram: instagram.com/janeybworld Website: JaneyBrown.com QuickFix - Your Computer Problems... Solved. Click here for 10% off maintenance fee's for 1year! http://www.quickwatch.support/creating-space/ Support the growth of the Creating Space message and keep the podcast powered: http://www.patreon.com/creatingspace _______________________ Creating Space Team: Wes Knight - Host - Web: www.CreatingSpaceMovement.com - Insta: www.instagram.com/wesleytknight/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/WesleyTKnight - Snapchat: www.snapchat.com/add/wesknight - Facebook: www.facebook.com/wes.knight/ Lo Myrick - Business Development - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lomyrick?fref=nf - Insta: https://www.instagram.com/lomyrick/ - Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenlomyrick

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Ep. 15 - Girls Who Rock feat. Janey Brown & Michelle Wolfe In this week's episode of Tea Time with Tay, Taylor sits down with her new friend Janey and her gal pal Michelle to discuss joga... what's that!?, Janey's music career, anxiety, mental health awareness, and the trio even slip in some good old girl chats!!! Intro music credit: 'Closer' by Janey Brown & produced by Miles Jones