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Hello Wholigans! On today's episode of Who's There, our weekly call-in show, we hear from a lawyer who explains why divorce records are easier to find than marriage records, as well as a resident of Hershey, PA who explains why the city smells SO GOOD. Moving on, we take your questions about Justin Vernon's new merch line (and whether he's Themmier as Bon Iver), Amelia Moore's Coachella billboard, the return of Ava Max's 'Max Cut,' Chrishell Staus's feud with Bre Tiesi, Tyra Banks's love for Australian dairy products, and more! Call in at 619.WHO.THEM to leave questions, comments & concerns for a future episode of Who's There? on Thursdays. Want more? Get a ton of bonus content and support the show over on Patreon.com/WhoWeekly. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
On today's episode of The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast we are going to be speaking with a couple of team members from MORI Associates, a leading firm with over 25 years of experience in delivering comprehensive solutions across technology, communication, and space mission support. Specializing in scalable, high-impact technologies, the company addresses current challenges while anticipating future needs, contributing to a more connected, efficient, and secure future. MORI Associates has played pivotal roles in supporting missions to Earth orbit, the moon, and beyond, contributing to groundbreaking projects that advance both terrestrial applications and interstellar explorations.Our first guest is Gabe Garrett, Senior Vice President of Space and Defense at MORI Associates. With nearly two decades of experience in the aerospace and defense industries, Gabe leads strategy, growth, and operations across key civil and defense accounts. Before joining MORI Associates, he served as Account Vice President at SAIC, overseeing the Human Space Exploration and Operations Solutions division. Gabe's extensive background includes leadership roles at Engility Corporation and engineering experience with spacecraft, launch vehicles, and mission systems at ARES Corporation.Our other guest is Blake Hershey, Chief Growth Officer at MORI Associates. Blake is a visionary entrepreneur known for his passion for creating products that enhance lives and drive positive behavioral changes.With a track record of transforming concepts into successful multi-million-dollar ventures, he brings extensive expertise in business development, including finance, operations, marketing, product innovation, and strategic planning. His leadership has been instrumental in driving significant revenue growth at MORI Associates over the past several years. Blake has also been recognized by Forbes' Next 1000 for his entrepreneurial achievements.
This week Sami, Aleen, and Jordana create headlines for their week that range from Sami's birthday to Jordana's tick anxiety. Then, they talk about the hot goss of the week and unpack the White Lotus affair between Walton Goggins and Aimee Lou Wood. In All The Rage sponsored by Angry Orchard, they share what shows they've been watching during the hiatus. And finally, they propose the most petty Cayman's send in @ Betches history. Watch today on Betches YouTube! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Patrick has been challenged to hold his own excrement above his head like John Cusack in the movie Say Anything. He has demanded $10,000. We are 15% of the way there. Who will win before the clock strikes midnight? ...
Is 2025 the year of the acquisition? The hosts highlight two more headline-grabbing deals announced over the past week: Hershey's $750M purchase of BFY snack maker LesserEvil and the sale of watermelon water brand Mela to King Juice. We also speak with Jesse Bongiovi, who alongside rockstar father Jon Bon Jovi, co-founded Hampton Water Wine, a rosé brand that's taken the industry by storm. Show notes: 0:45: In Memoriam. NY → Texas. New With Nom. Congrats CC. Ray, The Fresh Cartoon. Sober Informed. Bert & Ernie. – Mike opens the episode with a tribute to the late Jack Craven. The hosts hype Taste Radio's upcoming meetups in NYC and Austin and Melissa spotlights valuable content featured in recent episodes of the Nombase Podcast. They also discuss the acquisitions of LesserEvil and Mela, and how both brands resonate with modern consumers. Everyone shares their lesser known nicknames and riffs on the term “sober informed,” before Ray is compared to a Sesame Street character. Ray reveals a brand's innovative way to smuggle soda into movie theaters (it's not what you think). Melissa and Jacqui highlight coconut water, protein- and honey-based bars as well as “salad sprinkles.” 33:15: Interview: Jesse Bongiovi, Co-Founder, Hampton Water Wine – Jesse joined us for a conversation amidst the tropical buzz of the Nassau Paradise Island Wine & Food Festival, which was held last month in The Bahamas. Jesse, who co-founded the award-winning rosé wine brand with his father and rock icon Jon Bon Jovi, talks about how a focus on accessibility without pretension is at the core of Hampton Water's success and how he's built a premium French rosé brand by staying scrappy, authentic and grounded. Brands in this episode: Fishwife, Petit Pot, Pistakio, Ithaca Hummus, Happy Wolf, Mela, LesserEvil, ISH, Evolution Fresh, Coaqua, Superfoodio, Bon Bee, Payday, MOSH, Salad Sprinkles, Painterland Sisters, Chutni Punch, Hampton Water Wine
Torrey discusses yet another drop in the numbers on Wall Street amid the tariffs imposed by President Trump and the 145% increase on those targeted at China. Torrey then spoke with Maryland State Senator Steve Hershey to get his reaction to the end of the legislative session as well as recent comments made by Senate President Bill Ferguson on the IT Tax. Torrey also discussed the public safety initiative Mayor Brandon Scott has been pushing to help make the city safer. Torrey Snow can be heard weekday afternoons from 2-6pm on WBAL NewsRadio 1090, FM 101.5, and the WBAL Radio App.
In episode 1844, Miles and guest co-host Blake Wexler are joined by musician and host of Hood Politics, Propaganda, to discuss… Here Come The Regrets…, The Hershey Movie Is Even Worse Than You Think and more! Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC) on tariff strategy: "Whose throat do I get to choke if this proves to be wrong?" Hershey Chocolate Movie Set With ‘Mean Girls’ Director, Finn Wittrock and Alexandra Daddario to Star (EXCLUSIVE) ‘The Studio’ Gets Closer to Real Life: Hershey Chocolate Movie in the Works with Finn Wittrock and Alexandra Daddario Hershey’s Once Violently Suppressed a Strike by Chocolate Workers The Milton Hershey School: Making Dreams Come True Hershey profits benefit a boarding school that spends lavishly on its low-income students. But that investment comes with strings attached — leaving some students behind and others mired in debt. 'Chocolate Trust' book raises questions about Milton Hershey School and education of students Milton’s Bittersweet Legacy: Unsavory Scandals Former Milton Hershey School House Parent accused of sexually abusing minor LISTEN: Passion Project by Propaganda ft. Blu (OUT THIS FRIDAY!) WATCH: The Daily Zeitgeist on Youtube! L.A. Wildfire Relief: Displaced Black Families GoFund Me Directory See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
On this episode of Bounced From The Roadhouse:Special Guests in 4B:One More DayRandom FactsNaming BabyHershey MovieBeatles DrummerPets Make us HappyMetallicaWater FloodingFiesta Fest Boot CampFitted Sheet FoldThat's a Great QuestionSibling StoriesQuestions? Comments? Leave us a message! 605-343-6161Don't forget to subscribe, leave us a review and some stars Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week's episode of KentNow is packed tighter than a TSA line during spring break!
Robert Pattinson Being Eyed For Villain Of Dune Messiah?! | Kristian Harloff Show On today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, Kristian is joined by John Rocha and Sean Chandler to break down some of the biggest movie and TV news of the week! Is The Batman star Robert Pattinson about to step into the sci-fi world of Dune Messiah as the mysterious villain Scytale? We dive into the reports and what it could mean for Denis Villeneuve's upcoming sequel. Other topics on the show include: Emma Thompson reportedly being eyed for a key role in The Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Reaping. Jesse Plemons rumored for a major Star Wars villain in Shawn Levy's upcoming film. Set leaks and speculation from Avengers: Doomsday, plus Marvel drops a wild Wolverine ASMR video for Stress Awareness Month. A new Andor Season 2 TV spot has dropped along with official air dates – the final season is coming fast. And yes, you read that right — a live-action Hershey's Chocolate film is officially in the works! Don't forget to like and subscribe for all the latest updates in the world of film, television, and geek culture! #DuneMessiah #RobertPattinson #StarWars #AvengersDoomsday #HungerGames #Andor #MCU #KristianHarloffShow #SeanChandler #JohnRocha OUR Sponsors: If you're 21+, try VIIA during their annual SPRING 420 SALE for Black Friday-level savings up to 35% OFF site wide! Go to https://viia.co/KRISTIAN and use code KRISTIAN! FAST GROWING TREES: This Spring FGT has the best deals, for your yard, up to half off on select plants and other deals. And listeners to our show get FIFTEEN PERCENT OFF their first purchase when using the code BIGTHING at checkout. http://www.fastgrowingtress.com VIIA: Try VIIA! https://viia.co/KRISTIAN and use code KRISTIAN! FACTOR: Get started at http://www.factormeals.com/kristian50off and use code kristian50off to get 50 percent off plus FREE shipping on your first box.
On Episode 424 we discuss the wild career of Val Kilmer before covering the latest news including a David Fincher/Tarantino collaboration, a 3rd Happy Death Day, and a movie about Hershey chocolate. We also get into the surprising performance of the Minecraft movie this weekend. What We're Watching: The White Lotus (Season 3) Hell of a Summer
MUSIC Madonna and Elton John's infamous feud is finally over. Slayer's announced a huge September 20th stadium show in Hershey, Pennsylvania with openers Knocked Loose, Suicidal Tendencies, Power Trip, Cavalera and Exodus. RIP: Blondie drummer Clem Burke has died at 70 after a "private battle with cancer", according to a statement from the band. TV More health issues for Kathy Griffin: She had to get a hysterectomy due to a precancerous condition. MOVING ON INTO MOVIE NEWS: Immigration officials at London's Heathrow Airport have upset Hugh Grant, after he revealed in a Tweet that they quizzed his children on Friday. Quote, "Just came through Heathrow with wife and children. Back in 2022, Bill Murray was working on a movie called "Being Mortal", which was being directed by Aziz Ansari. And he did something to a female crew member that got it CANCELED. Well, Bill still doesn't think what he did was that bad. He says, quote, "I was wearing a mask, and I gave her a kiss, and she was wearing a mask. · Chris Hemsworth recently made a fan for life. And her name is Halle Berry. Jacob Elordi from "Saltburn" and "Euphoria" got a wax figure at Madam Tussauds in Las Vegas, and it's not bad. In fact, it's kinda hot. Did you see that King Kong made of drones climb the Empire State Building? AND FINALLY People on Reddit are sharing which actors nailed their role so well, that no one else could ever compare. AND THAT IS YOUR CRAP ON CELEBRITIES! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Welcome to another AI update! This week, we examine Elon Musk's controversial sale of X (formerly Twitter) to his own xAI startup, alongside Apple's cautious entry into AI health coaching. We also compare ChatGPT's new image generator against industry leader Midjourney, and discuss how a former Senate staffer's government-focused AI startup reflects the current administration's approach to artificial intelligence in the public sector. Plus: The TikTok ban is extended once again and Hershey acquires a “healthy” snack company. Join our hosts Martina Bretous and Matt Village as they take you through our most interesting stories of the day. Get our Side Hustle Ideas Database: https://clickhubspot.com/thds Follow us on social media: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thehustle.co Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thehustledaily/ Thank You For Listening to The Hustle Daily Show. Don't forget to hit Subscribe or Follow us on Apple Podcasts so you never miss an episode! If you want this news delivered to your inbox, join millions of others and sign up for The Hustle Daily newsletter, here: https://thehustle.co/email/ Plus! Your engagement matters to us. If you are a fan of the show, be sure to leave us a 5-Star Review on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hustle-daily-show/id1606449047 (and share your favorite episodes with your friends, clients, and colleagues).
“How Can We Get More Product Content to the PDP Faster”? That question is top of mind every day for Carolan Di Fiore, Digital Content Deployment Manager at Hershey. Drawing from her prior experience in Ecommerce and digital roles at other global companies like Bimbo Bakeries, Carolan hit the ground running at Hershey a year and a half ago, and joins the podcast to describe the strategies that she and a cross-functional group of marketing, sales, data, and technology leaders are implementing to deliver answers to that core question. And in doing so, speed time to market, accelerate performance, and delight the consumer.
Chilly weather. Dog stuff. Costco is discontinuing its soy milk. Hershey's buys LesserEvil. Brazos County Commissioner Bentley Nettles. National Beer Day! AI lawyer. Things that chatbots cannot do. Most viewed TikTok in the world. Cheez-It pizza.
Aktien hören ist gut. Aktien kaufen ist besser. Bei unserem Partner Scalable Capital geht's unbegrenzt per Trading-Flatrate oder regelmäßig per Sparplan. Alle weiteren Infos gibt's hier: scalable.capital/oaws. Aktien + Whatsapp = Hier anmelden. Lieber als Newsletter? Geht auch. Das Buch zum Podcast? Jetzt lesen. China revanchiert sich. Boeing, GE Healthcare, Apple, IPOs & Banken leiden. Adidas, Nike & Lululemon freut das Vietnam-Gespräch von Trump. Musk will keine Zölle. Hershey kauft Millionen-Popcorn, Microsoft feiert 50sten, Honda kann Space & Bitcoin ist stabil. Ein zyklisches Business in wirtschaftlich unsicheren Zeiten ist keine gute Kombo. Thyssenkrupp (WKN: 750000) steigt trotzdem. Der Grund: Rüstung, Infrastruktur und die Hoffnung auf Frieden. Von den 18 reichsten Menschen der Welt haben nur 2 dieses Jahr Rendite gemacht: Warren Buffett & Carlos Slim. Den ersten kennt ihr. Der zweite ist der John D. Rockefeller Mexikos mit América Móvil (WKN: A3D8PK), Grupo Carso (WKN: 885075) & Inbursa (WKN: 900573) Diesen Podcast vom 07.04.2025, 3:00 Uhr stellt dir die Podstars GmbH (Noah Leidinger) zur Verfügung.
This week on Snacky Tunes, host Darin Bresnitz heads back to his hometown of Philadelphia for a delicious convo with chef and restauranteur Kelsey Bush. From growing up in Hershey to culinary school to working on a farm, Kelsey shares the journey that led her to feed none other than the reigning Super Bowl champs—the Philadelphia Eagles—serving up Pop-Tarts and pastries from her new restaurant, Loretta's, at every home game this past season.Then, we dig into the archives for a dreamy live set from Brooklyn trio The Unders, who stopped by to perform tracks from their EP and preview their upcoming LP.For those looking to support LA restaurants, check out the Snacky Tunes Substack for donation links and action items. Also, a quick note: if you're looking to support the ongoing relief efforts for the LA fires, World Central Kitchen remains one of the best places to donate.Snacky Tunes: Music is the Main Ingredient, Chefs and Their Music (Phaidon), is now on shelves at bookstores around the world. It features over eighty of the world's top chefs who share personal stories of how music has been an important, integral force in their lives. The chefs also give personal recipes and curated playlists too. It's an anthology of memories, meals and mixtapes. Pick up your copy by ordering directly from Phaidon, or by visiting your local independent bookstore. Visit our site, www.snackytunes.com for more info.
The entrepreneurial journey is often glamorised—start a business, build a following, and success will come easy. But Maxx Chewning's story reveals a different reality: one built on consistency, calculated risk, and staying true to your passions. From juggling a corporate job while building a YouTube channel, to turning his love for candy into the wildly successful Sour Strips brand, Maxx has never taken the easy route.In this episode, Maxx opens up about the years of trial and error behind his fitness content, why he walked away from his clothing brand, and how reinvesting, storytelling, and community built a brand that now sits on the shelves of major retailers. We also dive into what it really takes to scale a business without giving up control—and why doing what you love can be your most strategic move.0:00 Introduction to Maxx Chewning1:37 Mike's experiences in America and Texas weather3:29 Maxx Chewning's relocation and starting District Barbell gym6:50 Early collaborations and decisions in Texas10:00 Building a niche in YouTube and bodybuilding forums13:35 Juggling a job with YouTube and early sponsorships17:45 Launch and evolution of Ever Forward and Sour Strips25:38 Challenges and strategies in starting and scaling Sour Strips34:55 Influencer marketing and brand differentiation41:22 Business growth, employee care, and COVID's impact44:21 Retail approaches and protecting the business50:41 Financial risks and strategies in retail expansion53:20 Preparing for business exit and Hershey's acquisition1:02:46 Post-acquisition obligations and Sour Strips' legacy1:07:24 Maxx Chewning's personal life and future endeavors1:12:20 Discussing candy in the fitness industry1:15:52 Balancing fitness with candy entrepreneurship1:19:29 Instilling ambition in children and managing creativity1:23:00 Personal life balance and content planning1:28:38 Audience engagement and content relatability1:33:01 Home building and design collaboration» Escape the 9-5 & build your dream life - https://www.digitalplaybook.net/» Transform your physique - https://www.thrstapp.com/» My clothing brand, THRST - https://thrstofficial.com» Custom Bioniq supplements: https://www.bioniq.com/mikethurston • 40% off your first month of Bioniq GO • 20% off your first month of Bioniq PRO» Join @Whoop and get your first month for free - https://join.whoop.com/mikethurston» Follow Maxx«YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRZAa0ay5dZT71_efD-YlOgInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/maxxchewning/?hl=enTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@maxxchewning?lang=en
On this week's episode of the Modern Retail Rundown, the staff gives an overview of what tariffs were announced on April 2, which President Donald Trump called "Liberation Day," and how the retail industry reacted accordingly. Then, a look which companies are trying to throw their hats into the ring to acquire TikTok. And lastly, an M&A streak in the better-for-you space continues as Hershey announced it will acquire popcorn brand LesserEvil in a $750 million deal.
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Here's the latest CPG news happening right now on April 3rd, 2025 including Trump Tariffs Goes Into Effect, Huge Series A with Lucky Energy, Acquisitions Galore with Lesser Evil and Mela, and More Investment ActionOn April 2nd, (yesterday) Trump has announced reciprocal tariffs on essentially all goods, unless otherwise noted. Some details will emerge on what is exempt. For food and beverage people, this will deeply impact cost of goods sold for bottles, caps, labels, cans, and just about every type of packaging that is manufactured outside of the United States, typically in Asia. Also, companies sourcing raw materials and ingredients will be subject to tariffs. This will undoubtedly affect brands and their margins, forcing them to raise their wholesale pricing to retailers and distributors. And ultimately will affect the everyday consumer, paying more for goods, even more than the inflationary costs right now. We will watch this closely, but our opinion is this will disrupt the market, cause margin compression, and force manufacturers to re-think how they source their product.Lucky Energy, a simpler, better-for-you energy drink, announced today that it has successfully closed a $14.2 million oversubscribed Series A1 round, bringing its total funding to over $40 million. The round is led by Maveron, with backing from DMG Ventures, Second Sight Ventures, and existing investors: Imaginary Ventures, Brand Foundry Ventures, Sapphire Ventures, and Sugar Capital. The capital secured will fuel the brand's growth, enabling it to accelerate distribution, introduce new products, support strategic partnerships, and recruit in key business areas. Additionally, the company welcomed Dan Ginsberg, former Chief Executive Officer of Red Bull NA and CEO of Dermalogica®, to its Board of Directors.Lucky Energy has experienced explosive growth, entering 10,000 new doors with plans to expand to an additional 15,000 before the end of the year. The brand has also surpassed 400,000 followers across its social channels. The product is designed for individuals seeking to enhance performance with a natural, functional drink. It is currently available in six flavors: Son of a Peach, Orange Drizzle, Red Ryder Punch, OG Luck, Tropical Thrill, and Bodacious Berry. It has zero sugar and zero calories, ensuring a healthier choice for consumers. Nixie, the better for your sparkling water and now has a soda line that debuted in 2024, has secured $27M in fresh funding to help expand their product nationwide. Wet hydration has also raised $4.5M and brought on the former EVP from CelsiusHershey has agreed to buy the organic popcorn giant LesserEvil for about $750 million, a figure that could increase if the brand meets certain performance benchmarks, The Wall Street Journal reports, citing anonymous sources. The deal accelerates Hershey's expansion into salty snacks, and aligns with a broader rush by food giants to snap up smaller, more nimble competitors to reach new customers.Last but not least, Mela has been acquired by the beverage company Calypso. Which is under the umbrella company King Juice Holdings - a platform company backed by Mason Wells - a $2B PE firm out of Milwaukee that owns businesses across the CPG value chain
The above title does not do Dan Swift justice. Dan also has his own podcast, successful Youtube channel and he has released seven music albums. Talk about being unstoppable! I met Dan when I appeared as a guest on his podcast, Time We Discuss and I knew he would contribute to a fascinating story here. Dan grew up with an interest in music. For a time he thought he wanted to write music for video games. Along the way he left that idea behind and after graduating from college he began working at designing websites. He has made that into his fulltime career. As he grew as a website designer and later as a supervisor for a school system coordinating and creating the school sites Dan took an interest in accessibility of the web. We talk quite a bit about that during our time together. His observations are fascinating and right on where web access for persons with disabilities is concerned. We also talk about Dan's podcast including some stories of guests and what inspires Dan from his interviews. I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I. About the Guest: Originally wanting to write music for video games or become an audio engineer, Dan Swift graduated from a small Liberal Arts college with a degree in Music Composition (Bachelor of Arts) and Music Recording Technology (Bachelor of Music). Dan went on to release seven EP albums between 2003 and 2024. Most recently, "Parallels" dropped on Leap Day, 2024. Dan has always had a passion for shaking up genres between Eps writing classical, electronic, and modern rock music. While creating music has always been a passion, Dan took a more traditional professional path as a web developer. While on this path, Dan had a lot of experience with accessibility standards as it relates to the web and he values accessibility and equity for everyone both inside and outside the digital workspace. Having received his MBA during COVID, Dan went on to a leadership position where he continues to make a difference leading a team of tech-savvy web professionals. In early 2024, I created a podcast and YouTube channel called "Time We Discuss" which focuses on career exploration and discovery. The channel and podcast are meant for anyone that is feeling lost professionally and unsure of what is out there for them. Dan feels that it is important for people to discover their professional passion, whatever it is that lights them up on the inside, and chase it. So many people are unfulfilled in their careers, yet it doesn't have to be this way. When not working, Dan enjoys spending time with his wife and three kids. They are a very active family often going to various extracurricular events over the years including flag football, soccer, gymnastics, and school concerts. Dan's wife is very active with several nonprofit organizations including those for the betterment of children and homelessness. Dan enjoys playing the piano, listening to podcasts, and listening to music. Dan is very naturally curious and is a slave to a train of never-ending thoughts. Ways to connect with Dan: Time We Discuss on YouTube Time We Discuss on Spotify Time We Discuss on Twitter/X Time We Discuss on Instagram Time We Discuss on BlueSky Time We Discuss Website Dan Swift Music Website About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can subscribe in your favorite podcast app. You can also support our podcast through our tip jar https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/unstoppable-mindset . Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Transcription Notes: Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us. Michael Hingson ** 01:20 Well, hi everybody. Welcome once again. Wherever you may be, to unstoppable mindset, I am your host, Mike hingson, sometimes I say Michael hingson, and people have said, Well, is it Mike or Michael? And the answer is, it doesn't really matter. It took a master's degree in physics and 10 years in sales for me to realize that if I said Mike Hingson on the phone, people kept calling me Mr. Kingston, and I couldn't figure out why, so I started saying Michael Hingson, and they got the hinckson part right, but it doesn't matter to me. So anyway, Mike hingson, or Michael hingson, glad you're with us, wherever you are, and our guest today is Dan Swift, who has his own pine podcast, and it was actually through that podcast that we met, and I told him, but I wouldn't do it with him and be on his podcast unless he would be on unstoppable mindset. And here he is. Dan is a person who writes music, he's an engineer. He does a lot of work with web design and so on, and we're going to get into all that. So Dan, I want to welcome you to unstoppable mindset. We're really glad you're here. Dan Swift ** 02:25 Michael, it's a pleasure to be here. Thank you so much for inviting me. I am. I'm super excited. Michael Hingson ** 02:30 Well, looking forward to getting to spend more time with you. We did yours time to discuss, and now we get this one. So it's always kind of fun. So, and Dan is in Pennsylvania, so we're talking across the continent, which is fine. It's amazing what we can do with electronics these days, telling us not like the good old days of the covered wagon. What can I say? So, So Dan, why don't you tell us a little bit about kind of the early Dan, growing up and all that. Dan Swift ** 02:57 Oh, geez. How far Michael Hingson ** 02:58 back to go? Oh, as far as you want to go, Dan Swift ** 03:02 Well, okay, so I am, I am the youngest of five. Grew up just outside of Philadelphia as being the youngest. You know, there are certain perks that go along with that. I get to experience things that my parents would have previous said no to the older siblings. And you know how it is with with, you know, if you have more than one kid, technically, you get a little more relaxed as you have more but then I also had the other benefit of, you know, hearing the expression, there are young ears in the room, I will tell you later. So I kind of got some of that too. But I grew up outside of Philadelphia, had a passion for music. Pretty early on. I was never good at any sports. Tried a number of things. And when I landed on music, I thought, you know, this is this is something that I can do. I seem to have a natural talent for it. And I started, I tried playing the piano when I was maybe eight or nine years old. That didn't pan out. Moved on to the trumpet when I was nine or 10. Eventually ended up picking up guitar, bass, guitar, double bass revisited piano later in life, but that's the musical side of things. Also, when I was young, you know, I had a passion for role playing games, Dungeons and Dragons, was really big when I was a teenager, so I was super excited for that. Yeah, that's, that's kind of those, those memories kind of forced me, or kind of shaped me into the person that I am today. I'm very light hearted, very easy going, and I just try to enjoy life. Michael Hingson ** 04:30 I played some computer games when computers came along and I started fiddling with them, the games I usually played were text based games. I've never really played Dungeons and Dragons and some of those. And I I'm sure that there are accessible versions of of some of that, but I remember playing games like adventure. You remember? Have you heard of adventure? I have, yeah. So that was, that was fun. Info con made. Well, they had Zork, which was really the same as adventure, but they. At a whole bunch of games. And those are, those are fun. And I think all of those games, I know a lot of adults would probably say kids spend too much time on some of them, but some of these games, like the the text based games, I thought really were very good at expanding one's mind, and they made you think, which is really what was important to me? Yeah, I Dan Swift ** 05:21 completely agree with that too. Because you'd be put in these situations where, you know true, you're trying to solve some kind of puzzle, and you're trying to think, Okay, well, that didn't work, or that didn't work, and you try all these different things, then you decide to leave and come back to and you realize later, like you didn't have something that you needed to progress forward, or something like that. But, but it really gets the brain going, trying to create with these, uh, come up with these creative solutions to progress the game forward. Yeah, which Michael Hingson ** 05:43 and the creative people who made them in the first place? What did they? Yeah, they, I don't know where they, where they spent their whole time that they had nothing to do but to create these games. But hey, it worked. It sure. Did you know you do it well. So you went off to college. Where'd you go? Sure, Dan Swift ** 06:02 I went to a small liberal arts college, Lebanon Valley College in Pennsylvania. It's near, it's near Hershey. It was, it was weird in that my the entire school was about half the size of my entire high school. So that was very, very weird. And then you talk to these other people. And it's like, my high school was, you know, very large by comparison. But for me, it was like, well, high school, that's what I knew. But yeah, it was I went to, I went to 11 Valley College near Hershey. I studied, I was a double major. I studied music composition and music recording, Michael Hingson ** 06:35 okay, and, oh, I've got to go back and ask before we continue that. So what were some of the real perks you got as a kid that your your older siblings didn't get? Dan Swift ** 06:45 Oh, geez, okay. I mean, Michael Hingson ** 06:49 couldn't resist, yeah, probably, probably Dan Swift ** 06:51 some of the more cliche things. I probably got to spend the night at a friend's house earlier than my oldest brother. For instance, I know my parents were a little more concerned about finances. So I know my oldest brother didn't get a chance to go away to college. He did community college instead. And then, kind of, my sister was a very similar thing. And then once we got, like, about halfway down, you know, me and my two other brothers, we all had the opportunity to go away to college. So I think that was, that was definitely one of the perks. If I was the oldest, I was the oldest, I probably wouldn't have had that opportunity with my family. Got Michael Hingson ** 07:24 it well, so you went off and you got a matt a bachelor's in music, composition and music recording. So that brought you to what you were interested in, part, which was the engineering aspect of it. But that certainly gave you a pretty well rounded education. Why those two why composition and recording? Sure. Dan Swift ** 07:43 So if we talk about the music first at that time, so this is like the the late 90s, early 2000s any kind of digital music that was out there really was, was MIDI based, and anyone that was around that time and paying attention, it was like these very like, like that music kind of sound to it. So there wasn't a whole lot going on with MIDI. I'm sorry, with music as far as how great it sounded, or I shouldn't say, how great it sounded, the the instruments that are triggered by MIDI, they didn't sound all that great. But around that time, there was this game that came out, Final Fantasy seven, and I remember hearing the music for that, and it was all, it was all electronic, and it was just blown away by how fantastic it sounded. And And around that time, I thought, you know, it'd be really cool to get into writing music for video games. And that was something I really kind of toyed with. So that was kind of in the back of my head. But also, at the time, I was in a band, like a rock band, and I thought, you know, I'm going to school. They have this opportunity to work as a music engineer, which is something I really wanted to do at the time. And I thought, free studio time. My band will be here. This will be awesome. And it wasn't until I got there that I discovered that they also had the music composition program. It was a I was only there maybe a week or two, and once I discovered that, I was like, Well, this is gonna be great, you know, I'll learn to write. Know, I'll learn to write music. I can write for video games. I'll get engineering to go with it. This is gonna be fantastic. Speaking Michael Hingson ** 09:07 of electronic music, did you ever see a science fiction movie called The Forbidden Planet? I did not. Oh, it's music. It's, it's not really music in the sense of what what we call, but it's all electronic. You gotta, you gotta find it. I'm sure you can find it somewhere. It's called the Forbidden Planet. Walter pigeon is in it. But the music and the sounds fit the movie, although it's all electronic, and electronic sounding pretty interesting. Dan Swift ** 09:37 Now, is that from, I know, like in the 50s, 60s, there was a lot of experiments. Okay, yeah, Michael Hingson ** 09:45 yeah, and, but again, it fit the movie, which was the important part. So it certainly wasn't music like John Williams today and and in the 80s and all that. But again, for the movie, it fit. Very well, which is kind of cool. Yeah, Dan Swift ** 10:02 I'll definitely have to check that out. I remember when I was in school, we talked about like that, that avant garde kind of style of the the 50s, 60s. And there was a lot of weird stuff going on with electronics, electronic music. Um, so I'm very curious to see, uh, to check this out, yeah, yeah. Michael Hingson ** 10:14 You have to let me know what, what you find, what you think about it, when you get to chance to watch it, absolutely or actually, I I may have a copy. If I do, I'll put it in a dropbox folder and send you a link. Fantastic. So you graduated. Now, when did you graduate? Dan Swift ** 10:32 Sure, so I graduated in 2003 okay, Michael Hingson ** 10:35 so you graduated, and then what did you do? So, Dan Swift ** 10:41 backing up about maybe 612, months prior to that, I decided I did not want to be a I didn't want to write music for video games. I also did not want to work in a recording studio. And the reason for this was for music. It was, I didn't it was, it was something I really, really enjoyed, and I didn't want to be put in a position where I had to produce music on demand. I didn't want to I didn't want to do that. I didn't want to lose my hobby, lose my passion in that way. So I decided that was out. And then also, when it came to working in a studio, if I wanted to be the engineer that I really wanted to be, I would have to be in a place where the music scene was really happening. So I'd have to be in like Philadelphia or Los Angeles or Nashville or deep in Philly or something like that. And I do not like the cities. I don't feel comfortable in the city. So I was like, that's not really for me either. I could work in like a suburb studio. But I was like, not, not for me. I don't, not for me. So when I graduated college, I ended up doing freelance web work. I had met through, through a mutual friend I was I was introduced to by a mutual friend, to a person that was looking for a new web designer, developer. They lost their person, and they were looking for someone to take over with that. And at the time, I did a little bit of experience doing that, from when I was in high school, kind of picked it up on the side, just kind of like as a hobby. But I was like, Ah, I'll give this a shot. So I started actually doing that freelance for a number of years after graduation. I also worked other jobs that was, like, kind of like nowhere, like dead end kind of jobs. I did customer service work for a little bit. I was a teacher with the American Cross for a little bit, a little bit of this and that, just trying to find my way. But at the same time, I was doing freelance stuff, and nothing related to music and nothing related to technology, Michael Hingson ** 12:29 well, so you learned HTML coding and all that other stuff that goes along with all that. I gather, I Dan Swift ** 12:35 sure did, I sure didn't. At the time, CSS was just kind of popular, yeah, so that. And then I learned, I learned JavaScript a little bit. And, you know, I had a very healthy attitude when it when it came to accepting new clients and projects, I always tried to learn something new. Anytime someone gave me a new a new request came in, it was like, Okay, well, I already know how to do this by doing it this way. But how can I make this better? And that was really the way that I really propelled myself forward in the in the digital, I should say, when it comes to development or design. Michael Hingson ** 13:05 Okay, so you ended up really seriously going into website development and so on. Dan Swift ** 13:15 I did. So I continued doing freelance. And then about five years after I graduated, I started working as an audio visual technician, and also was doing computer tech stuff as part of the role as well. And while I was there, I ended up developing some web applications for myself to use that I could use to interact with our like projectors and stuff like that. Because they were on, they were all in the network, so I could interact with them using my wait for it, iPod Touch, there you go. So that was, you know, I kind of like started to blend those two together. I was really interested in the web at the time, you know, because I was still doing the freelance, I really wanted to move forward and kind of find a full time position doing that. So I ended up pursuing that more and just trying to refine those skills. And it wasn't until about about five years later, I ended up working as a full time web developer, and then kind of moved forward from Michael Hingson ** 14:09 there, iPod Touch, what memories? And there are probably bunches of people who don't even know what that is today. That Dan Swift ** 14:16 is so true, and at the time that was cutting edge technology, Michael Hingson ** 14:21 yeah, it was not accessible. So I didn't get to own one, because was later than that that Steve Jobs was finally kind of pushed with the threat of a lawsuit into making things accessible. And then they did make the iPhone, the iPod, the Mac and so on, and iTunes U and other things like that, accessible. And of course, what Steve Jobs did, what Apple did, which is what Microsoft eventually sort of has done as well, but he built accessibility into the operating system. So anybody who has an Apple device today. Troy actually has a device that can be made accessible by simply turning on the accessibility mode. Of course, if you're going to turn it on, you better learn how to use it, because the gestures are different. But it took a while, but, but that did happen. But by that time, I, you know, I had other things going on, and so I never did get an iPod and and wasn't able to make it work, but that's okay. But it's like the CD has gone away and the iPod has gone away, and so many things and DVDs have gone away. Dan Swift ** 15:31 Yes, so true. So true. You know, just as soon as we start to get used to them Michael Hingson ** 15:35 gone. I think there is, well, maybe it's close. There was a blockbuster open up in Oregon. But again, Blockbuster Video, another one, and I think somebody's trying to bring them back, but I do see that vinyl records are still being sold in various places by various people. Michael Buble just put out a new album, The Best of Buble, and it's available, among other things, in vinyl. So the old turntables, the old record players, and you can actually buy his album as a record and play it, which is kind of cool. Yeah, they've been Dan Swift ** 16:07 very big with marketing, too. It's been kind of a marketing, I don't want to say gimmick, but in that realm, you kind of like, hey, you know, this is also available in vinyl, and you try to get the people that are like the audio files to really check it out. I never really took the vinyl personally, but I know plenty of people that have sworn by it. Well, Michael Hingson ** 16:25 I've heard a number of people say that the audio actually is better on vinyl than typical MP three or other similar file formats. Yep, Dan Swift ** 16:35 yep. I had a friend growing up, and actually, I shouldn't say growing up, so I was already, like, in college or post college, but a buddy of mine, Craig, he was all about vinyl, and he had, he had the nice, the amplifier, and the nice, I think even, like, a certain kind of needle that you would get for the record player. And you know, you'd have to sit in the sweet spot to really enjoy it, and and I respect that, but um, for me, it was like, I didn't, I didn't hear that much of a difference between a CD and vinyl. Um, not very. Didn't have the opportunity to AB test them. But now I will say comparing a CD to like an mp three file, for instance, even a high quality mp three file, I can tell the difference on that Sure. I would never, you know, I'd use the MP threes for convenience. But if I were to have it my way, man, I'd have the uncompressed audio, no doubt about it, yeah, Michael Hingson ** 17:27 wave forms, yep, yep, yeah. Obviously that's that's going to give you the real quality. Of course, it takes a lot more memory, but nevertheless, if you've got the space it, it really makes a lot of sense to do because mp three isn't going to be nearly as high a level quality. Dan Swift ** 17:43 Absolutely, absolutely true. And that the way I rationalize it to myself. It's like, well, if I'm going to be though in the car or probably walking around and listening to music, I'm going to be getting all kinds of sounds from outside. Anyway, it kind of offsets the poor quality of the MP justify it. Michael Hingson ** 17:56 That's true. Well, you know when and mp three is convenient if you want to put a bunch of stuff in a well on a memory card and be able to play it all, because if you have uncompressed audio, it does take a lot more space, and you can't put as much on a card, or you got to get a much bigger card. And now we're getting pretty good sized memory cards. But still, the reality is that that for most purposes, not all mp three will suffice. Dan Swift ** 18:26 That is true. That is true. And I think too, you have a that the next battle is going to be mp three or a streaming, Michael Hingson ** 18:33 yeah, yeah, that's going to be fun, isn't it? Yeah? Boy. What a world well. So one of the things I noticed in reading your bio and so on is that you got involved to a great degree in dealing with accessibility on the web. Tell me about that. Dan Swift ** 18:55 Absolutely. Michael, so I've very strong opinions of accessibility. And this really comes back to, you know, I was, I was at my job, and I was only there as a full time developer. I wasn't there all that long, maybe a year, maybe two, and my supervisor came over to me and she said, you know, we want to start to make things more accessible. And this is like, this is like, 1012, years ago at this point, and I was like, okay, you know, and I did my little bit of research, and there wasn't a whole lot going on at the time. I don't think WCAG was a thing back then. It may have been. I can't remember if 508 was a thing at the in the Bible. It was okay, yeah. So I was doing my research, and, you know, you learn about the alt tags, and it's like, okay, well, we're doing that, okay. Then you learn about forms, and it's like, okay, well, they need to have labels, okay, but, but the turning point was this, Michael, we had a person on staff that was blind, and I was put in touch with this person, and I asked them to review like, different, different web applications. Applications we made, or forms or web pages. And the one day, I can't remember if he volunteered or if I asked, but essentially the request was, can this person come into our physical space and review stuff for us in person? And that experience was life changing for me, just watching him navigate our different web pages or web applications or forms, and seeing how he could go through it, see what was a problem, what was not a problem, was just an incredible experience. And I said this before, when given the opportunity to talk about this, I say to other developers and designers, if you ever have even the slightest opportunity to interact with someone, if they if, if you meet someone and they are using, let me, let me rephrase that, if you have the opportunity to watch someone that is blind using a navigate through the web, take, take that opportunity. Is just an amazing, amazing experience, and you draw so much from it. As a developer or designer, so very strong opinions about it, I'm all about inclusivity and making things equal for everyone on the web, and that was just my introductory experience about a dozen years ago. Michael Hingson ** 21:07 And so what have you done with it all since? Sure, so Dan Swift ** 21:11 with our website, we went from having about a million success criterion failures, and we've gotten it all the way down to, I think my last check, I think was maybe about 10,000 so it was huge, huge change. It's hard to get everything as because as content changes and newspaper, as new pages come online, it's hard to keep everything 100% accessible, but we know what to look for. You know, we're looking for the right contrast. We're looking for, you know, the all tags. We're looking for hierarchy with the headers. We're making sure our forms are accessible. We're making sure there aren't any keyboard traps, you know, things that most people, most web visitors, don't even think about, you know, or developers even thinking about, until you know, you need to think about them Michael Hingson ** 22:00 well and other things as well, such as with other kinds of disabilities. If you're a person with epilepsy, for example, you don't want to go to a website and find blinking elements, or at least, you need to have a way to turn them off, yeah. Dan Swift ** 22:13 Or or audio that starts automatically, or videos that start automatically, yeah, yeah. Michael Hingson ** 22:19 So many different things, or video that starts automatically, and there's music, but there's no audio, so you so a blind person doesn't even know what the video is, yes, which, which happens all too often. But the the reality is that with the Americans with Disabilities Act, it's it's been interesting, because some lawyers have tried to fight the courts and say, well, but the ADA came out long before the internet, so we didn't know anything about the internet, so it doesn't apply. And finally, the Department of Justice is taking some stands to say, yes, it does, because the internet is a place of business, but it's going to have to be codified, I think, to really bring it home. But some courts have sided with that argument and said, Well, yeah, the ADA is too old, so it doesn't, doesn't matter. And so we still see so many challenges with the whole idea of access. And people listening to this podcast know that, among other things I work with a company called accessibe. Are you familiar with them? I am, Yep, yeah, and, and so that's been an interesting challenge. But what makes access to be interesting is that, because it has an artificial intelligent widget that can monitor a website, and at the at the low end of of costs. It's like $490 a year. And it may not pick up everything that a body needs, but it will, will do a lot. And going back to what you said earlier, as websites change, as they evolve, because people are doing things on their website, which they should be doing, if you've got a static website, you never do anything with it. That's not going to do you very much good. But if it's changing constantly, the widget, at least, can look at it and make a lot of the changes to keep the website accessible. The other part of it is that it can tell you what it can't do, which is cool, Dan Swift ** 24:16 yeah, that's a really good point. You know, there's a lot of tools that are out there. They do monitor the stuff for you, you know, like we on our on our site, we have something that runs every night and it gives us a report every day. But then there are things that it doesn't always check, or it might, it might get a false positive, because it sees that like, you know, this element has a particular color background and the text is a particular color as well. But there's, you know, maybe a gradient image that lies between them, or an image that lies between them. So it's actually okay, even though the tool says it's not, or something like that. So, yeah, those automated tools, but you gotta also look at it. You know, a human has to look at those as well. Michael Hingson ** 24:52 Yeah, it's a challenge. But the thing that I think is important with, well, say, use accessibe. An example is that I think every web developer should use accessibe. And the reason I think that is not that accessibe will necessarily do a perfect job with with the access widget, but what it will do is give you something that is constantly monitored, and even if it only makes about 50% of the website more usable because there are complex graphics and other things that it can't do, the reality is, why work harder than you have to, and if accessibility can do a lot of the work for you without you having to do it, it doesn't mean that you need to charge less or you need to do things any different, other than the fact that you save a lot of time on doing part of it because the widget does it for you. Absolutely, absolutely. Dan Swift ** 25:47 That's that's a really, really good point too, having that tool, that tool in your tool belt, you know, yeah, Michael Hingson ** 25:55 yeah. And it makes a lot of sense to do. And there are, there are people who complain about products like accessibe, saying artificial intelligence can't do it. It's too new. You gotta start somewhere. And the reality is that accessibe, in of itself, does a lot, and it really makes websites a lot better than they otherwise were. And some people say, Well, we've gone to websites and accessibe doesn't really seem to make a difference on the site. Maybe not. But even if your website is pretty good up front and you use accessibe, it's that time that you change something that you don't notice and suddenly accessibe fixes it. That makes it better. It's an interesting discussion all the way around, but to to deny the reality of what an AI oriented system can do is, is really just putting your head in the sand and not really being realistic about life as we go forward. I think that is Dan Swift ** 26:52 so true. That is so true, and there's so many implications with AI and where it's going to go and what it will be able to do. You know, it's just in its infancy, and the amount of things that that the possibilities of what the future is going to be like, but they're just going to be very, very interesting. Michael Hingson ** 27:05 I interviewed someone, well, I can't say interview, because it's conversation. Well, I had a conversation with someone earlier on, unstoppable mindset, and he said something very interesting. He's a coach, and specifically, he does a lot of work with AI, and he had one customer that he really encouraged to start using chat GPT. And what this customer did, he called his senior staff into a meeting one day, and he said, Okay, I want you to take the rest of the day and just work with chat, G, P, T, and create ideas that will enhance our business, and then let's get together tomorrow to discuss them. And he did that because he wanted people to realize the value already that exists using some of this technology. Well, these people came back with incredible ideas because they took the time to focus on them, and again, they interacted with chat, GPT. So it was a symbiotic, is probably the wrong word, but synergistic, kind of relationship, where they and the AI system worked together and created, apparently, what became really clever ideas that enhanced this customer's business. And the guy, when he first started working with this coach, was totally down on AI, but after that day of interaction with his staff, he recognized the value of it. And I think the really important key of AI is AI will not replace anyone. And that's what this gentleman said to me. He said, AI won't do it. People may replace other people, which really means they're not using AI properly, because if they were, when they find that they can use artificial intelligence to do the job that someone else is doing, you don't get rid of that person. You find something else for them to do. And the conversation that we had was about truck drivers who are involved in transporting freight from one place to another. If you get to the point where you have an autonomous vehicle, who can really do that, you still keep a driver behind the wheel, but that driver is now doing other things for the company, while the AI system does the driving, once it gets dependable enough to do that. So he said, there's no reason for AI to eliminate, and it won't. It's people that do it eliminate any job at all, which I think is a very clever and appropriate response. And I completely agree Dan Swift ** 29:29 with that, you know, you think of other other technologies that are out there and how it disrupted, disrupted different industries. And the one example I like to use is the traffic light, you know. And I wonder, and I have no way of knowing this. I haven't researched this at all, but I wonder if there was any kind of pushback when they started putting in traffic lights. Because at that point in time, maybe you didn't have people directing traffic or something like that. Or maybe that was the event of the stop sign, it took it took away the jobs of people that were directing traffic or something like that. Maybe there was some kind of uproar over that. Maybe not, I don't know, but I like to think that things like that, you know. It disrupts the industry. But then people move on, and there are other other opportunities for them, and it progresses. It makes society progress forward. Michael Hingson ** 30:06 And one would note that we still do use school crossing guards at a lot of schools. Dan Swift ** 30:11 That is so true, that is true. Yeah, yeah. And especially, too, like talking about idea generation. I was talking to ginger. I forgot her last name, but she's the the president of pinstripe marketing, and she was saying that her team sometimes does the same thing that they they use chat GBT for idea generation. And I think, let's say Ashley, I think Ashley Mason, I think was her name, from Dasha social. The same thing they use, they use a chat GPT for idea generation, not not necessarily for creating the content, but for idea generation and the ideas it comes up with. It could be it can save you a lot of time. Well, Michael Hingson ** 30:48 it can. And you know, I've heard over the last year plus how a lot of school teachers are very concerned that kids will just go off and get chat GPT to write their papers. And every time I started hearing that, I made the comment, why not let it do that? You're not thinking about it in the right way. If a kid goes off and just uses chat GPT to write their paper, they do that and they turn it into you. The question is, then, what are you as the teacher, going to do? And I submit that what the teachers ought to do is, when they assign a paper and the class all turns in their papers, then what you do is you take one period, and you give each student a minute to come up and defend without having the paper in front of them their paper. You'll find out very quickly who knows what. And it's, I think it's a potentially great teaching tool that Dan Swift ** 31:48 is fascinating, that perspective is awesome. I love that. Speaker 1 ** 31:52 Well, it makes sense. It Dan Swift ** 31:55 certainly does. It certainly does. And that made me think of this too. You know, there's a lot of pushback from from artists about how that, you know, their their art was being used, or art is being used by AI to generate, you know, new art, essentially. And and musicians are saying the same thing that they're taking our stuff, it's getting fed into chat, GPT or whatever, and they're using it to train these different models. And I read this, this article. I don't even know where it was, but it's probably a couple months ago at this point. And the person made this comparison, and the person said, you know, it's really no different than a person learning how to paint in school by studying other people's art. You know, it's the same idea. It's just at a much, much much accelerated pace. And I thought, you know what that's that's kind of interesting. It's an interesting Michael Hingson ** 32:45 perspective. It is. I do agree that we need to be concerned, that the human element is important. And there are a lot of things that people are are doing already to misuse some of this, this AI stuff, these AI tools, but we already have the dark web. We've had that for a while, too. I've never been to the dark web. I don't know how to get to it. That's fine. I don't need to go to the dark web. Besides that, I'll bet it's not accessible anyway. But the we've had the dark web, and people have accepted the fact that it's there, and there are people who monitor it and and all that. But the reality is, people are going to misuse things. They're going to be people who will misuse and, yeah, we have to be clever enough to try to ferret that out. But the fact of the matter is, AI offers so much already. One of the things that I heard, oh, gosh, I don't whether it was this year or late last year, was that, using artificial intelligence, Pfizer and other organizations actually created in only a couple of days? Or moderna, I guess, is the other one, the COVID vaccines that we have. If people had to do it alone, it would have taken them years that that we didn't have. And the reality is that using artificial intelligence, it was only a few days, and they had the beginnings of those solutions because they they created a really neat application and put the system to work. Why wouldn't we want to do that? Dan Swift ** 34:23 I completely agree. I completely agree. And that's, again, that's how you move society forward. You know, it's similar to the idea of, you know, testing medicine on or testing medications on animals. For instance, you know, I love animals. You know, I love dogs, bunnies. I mean, the whole, the whole gamut, you know, love animals, but I understand the importance of, you know, well, do we test on them, or do we press on people, you know, you gotta, or do you not test? Or do just not you like you gotta. You gotta weigh out the pros and cons. And they're, they're definitely, definitely those with AI as well. Michael Hingson ** 34:56 Well, I agree, and I. With animals and people. Now, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, we ought to be doing tests on politicians. You know, they're not people. Anyway. So I think when you decide to become a politician, you take a special pill that nobody seems to be able to prove, but they take dumb pills, so they're all there. But anyway, I'm with Mark Twain. Congress is at Grand Ole benevolent asylum for the helpless. So I'm an equal opportunity abuser, which is why we don't do politics on unstoppable mindset. We can have a lot of fun with it, I'm sure, but we sure could. It would be great talk about artificial intelligence. You got politicians. But the reality is that it's, it's really something that that brings so much opportunity, and I'm and it's going to continue to do that, and every day, as we see advances in what AI is doing, we will continue to see advances and what is open for us to be able to utilize it to accomplish, which is cool. I Dan Swift ** 36:04 completely agree. Completely agree. Yeah, Michael Hingson ** 36:06 so it'll be fun to see you know kind of how it goes. So are you, do you work for a company now that makes websites? Or what is your company that you work for? Do, sure. Dan Swift ** 36:16 So I'm still in the education space, so I'm still, I'm like, in a state school managing a team of web professionals. Michael Hingson ** 36:23 Okay, well, that's cool. So you keep the school sites and all the things that go along with it up at all that Dan Swift ** 36:31 is correct. And we have lots of fun challenges when we start to integrate with third parties and got to make sure they're accessible too. And sometimes there's dialog that goes back and forth that people aren't happy with but, but it's my job to make sure, that's one of the things that we make sure happens, especially since I'm sure you've been following this. There's the Department of Justice ruling back in April, but I think it's anyone that's receiving state funding, they have to be. They have to follow the WCAG. Two point, I think, 2.1 double A compliance by April of 26 if you are a certain size, and my my institution, falls into that category. So we need to make sure that we were on the right path Michael Hingson ** 37:06 well. And the reality is that has been around since 2010 but it took the the DOJ 12 years to finally come up with rules and regulations to implement section 508. Yep, but it's it's high time they did and they do need to do it for the rest of the internet, and that's coming, but people are just being slow. And for me personally, I think it's just amazing that it's taking so long. It's not like you have to redesign a box, that you have to go off and retool hardware. This is all code. Why should it be that difficult to do? But people throw roadblocks in your way, and so it becomes tough. Yeah, it's Dan Swift ** 37:47 interesting, too. I remember reading this article, oh, gosh, this is probably, this is probably about a dozen years ago, and it said that, you know, the original web was 100% accessible, that it was just, you know, just text on a page pretty much. And you could do very, very simple layouts, you know, and then it got more convoluted. People would start doing tables for layouts, and tables within tables within tables, and so on and so forth. Like the original web it was, it was completely accessible. And now with, with all the the interactions we do with with client side scripting and everything like that, is just, it's a mess. If Michael Hingson ** 38:19 you really want to hear an interesting thing, I like to look and I've done it for a long time, long before accessibe. I like to explore different sites and see how accessible they are. And one day I visited nsa.gov, the National Security Agency, which, of course, doesn't really exist. So I could tell you stories, but I went to nsa.gov, and I found that that was the most accessible website I had ever encountered. If you arrow down to a picture, for example, when you arrowed into it, suddenly you got on your screen reader a complete verbal description of what the picture was, and everything about that site was totally usable and totally accessible. I'd never seen a website that was so good contrast that with and it's changed. I want to be upfront about it, Martha Stewart Living. The first time I went to that website because I was selling products that Martha Stewart was interested. So I went to look at the website. It was totally inaccessible. The screen reader wouldn't talk at all. Now, I've been to Martha Stewart since, and it's and it's much more accessible, but, but I was just amazed@nsa.gov was so accessible. It was amazing, which I thought was really pretty cool. Of all places. You Dan Swift ** 39:41 know, it's interesting. Before I started my my YouTube channel and podcast, I actually thought about creating a channel and or podcast about websites that are inaccessible, and I thought about calling companies out. And the more I thought about it, I was like, I don't know if I want to make that many people angry. I don't know if that's a Michael Hingson ** 39:58 good idea. I'm. Would suggest going the other way, and maybe, you know, maybe we can work together on it. But I would rather feature websites that are accessible and tell the story of how they got there, how their people got there. I would think that would be, I hear what you're saying about making people angry. So I would think, rather than doing that, feature the places that are and why they are and and their stories, and that might help motivate more people to make their websites accessible. What do you think about that as an idea? Dan Swift ** 40:28 I actually thought about that as well, and I was going backwards between that and and the other the negative side, because I thought, you know, bring that to light. Might actually force them to like by shedding light on it, might force them to make their site more accessible, whether what or not or not, no, but I definitely thought about those two sites. Michael Hingson ** 40:45 Yeah, it's, it's, it's a challenge all the way around. Well, what was the very first thing you did, the first experience that you ever had dealing with accessibility that got you started down that road. Dan Swift ** 40:58 I think it was like I said, when I work with that, that blind person, when I, when I first had that opportunity to see how he used the different web applications, we had the different web pages, and he was using a Mac. So he was using VoiceOver, he was using the, I think it's called the rotor menu, or roto something like that. Yeah, yep. So then after that happened, it was like, whoa. I need to get them back so I can, like, learn to use this as well and do my own testing. So the IT department had an old I asked them. I said, Hey guys, do you have any any old MacBooks that I can use? I was like, it can be old. I just need to test it. I need to, I need it to test for accessibility on the web. They hooked me up with an old machine, you know, it wasn't super old, you know, but it was. It worked for me. It gave me an opportunity to do my testing, and then I kind of became like the person in the department to do that. Everyone else, they didn't have the interest as much as I did. They recognized the importance of it, but they, they didn't have the same fire on the inside that I had, so I kind of took that on, and then like that. Now that I'm in the position of leadership, now it's more of a delegating that and making sure it still gets done. But I'm kind of like the resident expert in our in our area, so I'm still kind of the person that dives in a little bit by trying to make my team aware and do the things they need to do to make sure we're continuing, continuing to create accessible projects. You Michael Hingson ** 42:20 mentioned earlier about the whole idea of third party products and so on and and dealing with them. What do you do? And how do you deal with a company? Let's say you you need to use somebody else's product and some of the things that the school system has to do, and you find they're not accessible. What do you do? Dan Swift ** 42:42 So a lot of times, what will happen, I shouldn't say a lot of times. It's not uncommon for a department to make a purchase from a third party, and this is strictly, I'm talking in the web space. They might, they might make a purchase with a third party, and then they want us to integrate it. And this is a great example I had. It was actually in the spring the this, they had essentially a widget that would be on the on their particular set of pages, and there was a pop up that would appear. And don't get me started on pop ups, because I got very strong opinion about those. Me too, like I said, growing up, you know, late 90s, early 2000s very, very strong opinions about pop ups. So, but, but I encountered this, and it wasn't accessible. And I'm glad that in the position I'm in, I could say this unit, you need to talk to the company, and they need to fix this, or I'm taking it down. And I'm glad that I had the backing from, you know, from leadership, essentially, that I could do, I can make that claim and then do that, and the company ended up fixing it. So that was good. Another example was another department was getting ready to buy something. Actually, no, they had already purchased it, but they hadn't implemented it yet. The first example that was already implemented, that was I discovered that after the fact. So in the second example, they were getting ready to implement it, and they showed us another school that used it also a pop up. And I looked at it on the on the other school site, and I said, this isn't accessible. We cannot use this. No. And they said, Well, yes, it is. And I said, No, it isn't. And I explained to them, and I showed them how it was not accessible, and they ended up taking it back to their developers. Apparently there was a bug that they then fixed and they made it accessible, and then we could implement it. So it's nice that like that. I have the support from from leadership, that if there is something that is inaccessible, I have the power to kind of wheel my fist and take that down, take it off of our site. Do Michael Hingson ** 44:31 you ever find that when some of this comes up within the school system, that departments push back, or have they caught on and recognize the value of accessibility, so they'll be supportive. Dan Swift ** 44:45 I think the frustration with them becomes more of we bought this tool. We wish we had known this was an issue before we bought I think it's more of a like like that. We just wasted our time and money, possibly. But generally speaking, they do see the. Value of it, and they've recognized the importance of it. It's just more of a when others, there's more hoops everyone has to go through. Michael Hingson ** 45:05 Yeah, and as you mentioned with pop ups, especially, it's a real challenge, because you could be on a website, and a lot of times A pop up will come up and it messes up the website for people with screen readers and so on. And part of the problem is we don't even always find the place to close or take down the pop up, which is really very frustrating Dan Swift ** 45:30 Exactly, exactly the tab index could be off, or you could still be on the page somewhere, and it doesn't allow you to get into it and remove it, or, yeah, and extra bonus points if they also have an audio playing or a video playing inside of that. Michael Hingson ** 45:44 Yeah, it really does make life a big challenge, which is very, very frustrating all the way around. Yeah, pop ups are definitely a big pain in the butt, and I know with accessibility, we're we're all very concerned about that, but still, pop ups do occur. And the neat thing about a product like accessibe, and one of the reasons I really support it, is it's scalable, and that is that as the people who develop the product at accessibe improve it, those improvements filter down to everybody using the widget, which is really cool, and that's important, because with individual websites where somebody has to code it in and keep monitoring it, as you pointed out, the problem is, if that's all you have, then you've got to keep paying people to to monitor everything, to make sure everything stays accessible and coded properly, whereas there are ways to be able to take advantage of something like accessibe, where what you're able to do is let it, monitor it, and as accessibe learns, and I've got some great examples where people contacted me because they had things like a shopping cart on a website that didn't work, but when accessibe fixed it, because it turns out there was something that needed to be addressed that got fixed for anybody using the product. Which is really cool. Dan Swift ** 47:07 Yeah, that's really neat. I definitely appreciate things like that where, you know, you essentially fix something for one person, it's fixed for everyone, or a new feature gets added for someone, or, you know, a group of people, for instance, and then everyone is able to benefit from that. That's really, really awesome. I love that type of stuff. Michael Hingson ** 47:22 Yeah, I think it's really so cool. How has all this business with accessibility and so on affected you in terms of your YouTube channel and podcasting and so on? How do you bring that into the process? That's that's Dan Swift ** 47:37 really, really good question. I am very proud to say that I take the time to create transcripts of all my recordings, and then I go through them, and I check them for for accuracy, to make sure that things aren't correct, things are incorrect. Make sure things are correct, that they are not incorrect. So I'll make sure that those are there when the when the videos go live, those are available. Spotify creates them automatically for you. I don't know that you that I have the ability to modify them. I'm assuming I probably do, but honestly, I haven't checked into that. But so that's that's all accessible. When it comes to my web page, I make sure that all my images have the appropriate, you know, alt tags associated with them, that the the descriptions are there so people understand what the pictures are. I don't have a whole lot of pictures. Usually it's just the thumbnail for the videos, so just indicating what it is. And then I just try to be, you know, kind of, kind of text heavy. I try to make sure that my, you know, my links are not, you know, click here, learn more stuff like that. I make sure or they're not actual web addresses. I try to make sure that they're actual actionable. So when someone's using a screen reader and they go over a link, it actually is meaningful. And color contrast is another big one. I try to make sure my color contrast is meeting the appropriate level for WCAG, 2.1 double A which I can't remember what actual contrast is, but there's a contrast checker for it, which is really, really helpful Michael Hingson ** 49:00 well. And the other, the other part about it is when somebody goes to your website again, of course, accessibility is different for different people, so when you're dealing with things like contrast or whatever, do people who come to the website have the ability to monitor or not monitor, but modify some of those settings so that they get maybe a higher contrast or change colors. Or do they have that ability? Dan Swift ** 49:28 I They do not have that ability. I remember looking into a tool a while ago, and it was and actually, you know, at the school, we thought about developing a tool. It would be like a widget on the side that you could adjust on different things like that. You could do, you could remove images, you could remove animation, you could change color, contrast, that sort of thing. And it just be like a very predefined kind of kind of settings. But in my research, I found that a lot of times that causes other problems for people, and it kind of falls into the the arena of. Um, separate but equal. And there's a lot of issues with that right now in the accessibility space when it comes to the web. So for instance, there was a company, I forget what the company name was, but they had one of their things that they did was they would create text only versions of your pages. So you'd contract with them. They would they would scrape the content of your site. They would create a text version, text only version of your pages. So if people were using a screen reader, they could just follow that link and then browse the text only version. And there was litigation, and the company got sued, and the the person suing was successful, because it was essentially creating a separate argument. Michael Hingson ** 50:34 And that's not necessarily separate, but equal is the problem, because if you only got the text, pictures are put on websites, graphs are put on websites. All of those other kinds of materials are put on websites for reasons. And so what really needs to happen is that those other things need to be made accessible, which is doable, and the whole web con excessive content. Accessibility Guidelines do offer the the information as to how to do that and what to do, but it is important that that other information be made available, because otherwise it really is separate, but not totally equal at Dan Swift ** 51:11 all. That's absolutely true. Absolutely true. Yeah. So it Michael Hingson ** 51:15 is a, it is something to, you know, to look at well, you've been doing a podcast and so on for a while. What are some challenges that someone might face that you advise people about if they're going to create their own podcast or a really productive YouTube channel, Dan Swift ** 51:31 be real with yourself with the amount of time you have to dedicate to it, because what I found is that it takes a lot more time than I originally anticipated I thought going in, I thought, you know, so I typically try to record one or two people a week. When I first started out, I was only recording one person. And usually I would do, you know, record one day, edit the next day, you know, do the web page stuff. I would go with it, you know, I can knock it out in like an hour or two. But I wasn't anticipating the social media stuff that goes with it, the search engine optimization that goes with it, the research that goes with it, trying to so if I'm if I'm producing a video that's going to go on YouTube, what's hot at the moment? What are people actually searching for? What's going to grab people's attention? What kind of thumbnail do I have to create to grab someone's attention, where it's not clickbait, but it also represents what I'm actually talking to the person about, and still interesting. So it's a lot of a lot of that research, a lot of that sort of thing. It just eats up a lot a lot of time when it comes to like the transcripts, for instance, that was those super easy on their number of services out there that created automatically for you, and they just have to read through it and make sure it's okay. I know YouTube will do it as well. I found that YouTube isn't as good as some of the other services that are out there, but in a bind, you can at least rely on YouTube and then go and edit from that point. But yet, time is definitely a big one. I would say, if anyone is starting to do it, make sure you have some serious time to dedicate several, several hours a week, I would say, upwards, you know, probably a good, you know, four to 10 hours a week is what I would estimate in the moment. If you're looking to produce a 30 minute segment once or twice a week, I would estimate about that time. Michael Hingson ** 53:11 Yeah, one of the things I've been hearing about videos is that that the trend is is clearly not to have long videos, but only 32nd videos, and put them vertical as opposed to horizontal. And anything over 30 seconds is is not good, which seems to me to really not challenge people to deal with having enough content to make something relevant, because you can't do everything in 30 seconds exactly, Dan Swift ** 53:41 and what I found too. So this was very this was a little bit of a learning curve for me. So with, with the YouTube shorts that you have, they have to be a minute or less. I mean, now they're actually in the process of changing it to three minutes or less. I do not have that access yet, but it has Go ahead, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so. But what I'm finding Michael is that the people that so I might create this a great example. So I was interviewing a comedian in New York City, Meredith Dietz, awesome, awesome episode. But I was talking to her about becoming a comedian, and I made about four different shorts for her from her video, and I was doing a new one each week to kind of promote it. And the videos, for me, they were getting a lot I was getting anywhere between maybe 315 100 views on the short for me, that was awesome. For other people, you know, that might be nothing, but for me, that was awesome. But what I found was that the people that watch the shorts aren't necessarily the same people that watch the long form videos. So I'm or, or I might get subscribers from people that watch the shorts, but then they're not actually watching the video. And in the end, that kind of hurts your channel, because it's showing, it's telling the YouTube I'm gonna use air quotes, YouTube algorithm that my subscribers aren't interested in my content, and it ends up hurting me more. So anyone that's trying to play that game. And be aware of that. You know, you can't get more subscribers through shorts, but if you're not converting them, it's going to hurt you. Michael Hingson ** 55:05 I can accept three minutes, but 30 seconds just seems to be really strange. And I was asked once to produce a demonstration of accessibe on a website. They said you got to do it in 30 seconds, or no more than a minute, but preferably 30 seconds. Well, you can't do that if, in part, you're also trying to explain what a screen reader is and everything else. The reality is, there's got to be some tolerance. And I think that the potential is there to do that. But it isn't all about eyesight, which is, of course, the real issue from my perspective. Anyway. Dan Swift ** 55:41 Yeah, I completely agree. I think what YouTube is trying to do, and I believe in getting this from Tiktok, I think Tiktok has three up to three minutes. Actually, there might be 10 minutes now that I think about it, but, but I think they're trying to follow the trend, and it's like, let's make videos slightly longer and see how that goes. So be very curious to see how that all pans out. Michael Hingson ** 55:58 Well. And I think that makes sense. I think there's some value in that, but 30 seconds is not enough time to get real content, and if people dumb down to that point, then that's pretty scary. So I'm glad to hear that the trend seems to be going a little bit longer, which is, which is a good thing, which is pretty important to be able to do. Yeah, I completely Dan Swift ** 56:21 agree. Because like that, the trend right now, it's, you know, people, they want stuff immediately, and if you don't catch them in 10 seconds, they're swiping onto something else, which is which is very challenging, at least, especially for me and what I do. Who's Michael Hingson ** 56:32 the most inspiring guest that you've ever had on your podcast? Dan Swift ** 56:37 Michael, this is a good one. This is a good one. So the video for Ashley Mason. She is a social media marketing she created a social medi
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Send us a textDive into a sweet escape with our special guest host Fiddy and "The Fab Five" as they unwrap their deepest dessert opinions and share hidden bakery gems you won't want to miss. This episode is a sugar-coated journey through the world of treats that will have you reaching for your car keys to hunt down local pastry treasures.Our guests reveal surprising consensus on some topics (ice cream beats cookies every time) while passionately disagreeing on others. When it comes to bakeries worth visiting, we uncover spectacular recommendations spanning from Corbo's in Cleveland to Jimmy's in Liberty and Oakmont Bakery in Pittsburgh—each promising authentic Italian pastries that would make any nonna proud.The conversation turns hilariously unified when black licorice enters the chat. Every single guest expresses profound distaste for this controversial candy, with descriptions ranging from "if death had a taste" to comparisons we can't repeat in polite company. But it's not all criticism—our guests enthusiastically share their favorite candies, from Heath Bars to Reese's Fast Break to the nostalgic appeal of candy corn pumpkins.As the discussion moves through morning coffee habits, birthday cake preferences, and even a tour of Hershey, Pennsylvania, you'll discover how dessert choices reveal personality traits and generational perspectives. The show wraps with a heated debate about pie superiority, with surprising contenders for both best (cherry, key lime) and most overrated (pumpkin, apple).Whether you're planning your next road trip around bakery stops or simply looking to settle a dessert debate with friends, this episode delivers the perfect blend of recommendations, memories, and passionate opinions about the sweeter things in life. Tell Subscribe for exclusive content: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1530455/support Buzzsprout - Let's get your podcast launched!Start for FREEReaper Apparel Reaper Apparel Co was built for those who refuse to die slowly! Reaper isn't just clothing! Tactical BrotherhoodThe Tactical Brotherhood is a movement to support America.Dubby EnergyFROM GAMERS TO GYM JUNKIES TO ENTREPRENEURS, OUR PRODUCT IS FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BE BETTER.ShankitgolfOur goal here at Shankitgolf is for everyone to have a great time on and off the golf courseSweet Hands SportsElevate your game with Sweet Hands Sports! Our sports gloves are designed for champions,Buddy's Beard CareBuddy's Beard Care provides premium men's grooming products at an affordable price.Deemed FitBe a part of our movement to instill confidence motivation and a willingness to keep pushing forwardDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showFollow us on all social mediaX: @mikebonocomedyInstagram: @mikebonocomedy@tiktok: @mikebono_comedianFacebook: @mikebonocomedy
*THIS IS A LIVE INTERVIEW! Pardon the chocolatey construction noises in the background* Ioanna & Aaron Twizzler Twist and are Jolly as a Rancher at Chicago's Hershey Super Sweet Adventure! Caitlin Maloney, Vice President of Creative at Original X Productions (OGX), introduces us to the company behind some of the nation's greatest immersive IP experiences, including Harry Potter, Friends, and now Hershey!We chat about the reopening of this Michigan Avenue experience. Coming at the perfect time as we emerge out of our winter slumber, it's the refreshing downtown activity we needed! Sweet surprises are sure to delight the family, especially the kid inside all of us. Featuring Hershey themed challenges, activities, and delectable photo pops, this is the perfect spring break or weekend fun for candy lovers, which let's face it, is all of us.Learn how the OGX team took iconic brands like Reese's or Jolly Rancher and turned them into big, bold, and immersive exhibits. Taking on the role of “Sweet Seekers”, you'll engage with this timeless American brand in ways you never thought possible!We end with rapid fire, finding out if Caitlin has a favorite Hershey candy and which Jolly Rancher flavor she picks from the bag first!Hershey Super Sweet Adventure is now open! Located in Chicago Water Tower Place. Recommended for candy lovers of all ages!TICKETS: https://www.hersheysupersweetadventure.com/SOCIAL: https://www.instagram.com/hersheysupersweetadventure/
In today's episode, Shawn O'Malley and Daniel Mahnke break down Hershey (ticker: HSY), a company about so much more than chocolate. From Hershey's Kisses to Reese's, Skinny Pop, and Dot's Pretzels, Hershey's is home to a number of iconic brands and is turning into an increasingly diversified snacking company. In this episode, you'll learn how Hershey's was founded, why chocolate brands are hard to scale internationally, why Hershey's is diversifying into salty snacks, what Hershey's is doing about a global cocoa shortage, plus so much more! Prefer to watch? Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN 00:00 - Intro 04:41 - Hershey's unique origin story 16:09 - How the company is responding to global cocoa shortages 22:19 - Why Hershey is unlikely to be acquired and its plans for growth 23:36 - The origins of Hershey's unconventional ownership structure 29:27 - Why Hershey's isn't as popular outside North America 39:53 - What made Hershey's diversify into salty snacks 42:45 - Why the stock has been so beaten up over the last 18 months 35:12 - How Hershey's stacks up against competitors 1:00:20 - What is Hershey's intrinsic value per share 1:07:44 - Whether Shawn & Daniel add HSY to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio And much, much more! *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Hershey's 2023 pitch on the Value Investors Club Forum. Check out Poor Charlie's Almanack. The History of Hershey. Hershey's annual financial reports. Check out our previous Intrinsic Value breakdowns: AutoZone, Alphabet, Ulta, John Deere, and Madison Square Garden Sports. Check out the books mentioned in the podcast here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try Shawn's favorite tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: Shopify CFI Education TurboTax Airbnb Connect with Shawn: Twitter | LinkedIn | Email Connect with Daniel: Twitter | LinkedIn | Email HELP US OUT! Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a rating and review on Spotify! It takes less than 30 seconds and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm
I Let An AI Play Pokémon! - Claude plays Pokémon Creator // MLOps Podcast #295 with David Hershey, Member of Technical Staff at Anthropic.Join the Community: https://go.mlops.community/YTJoinIn Get the newsletter: https://go.mlops.community/YTNewsletter // AbstractDemetrios chats with David Hershey from Anthropic's Applied AI team about his agent-powered Pokémon project using Claude. They explore agent frameworks, prompt optimization vs. fine-tuning, and AI's growing role in software, legal, and accounting fields. David highlights how managed AI platforms simplify deployment, making advanced AI more accessible.// BioDavid Hershey devoted most of his career to machine learning infrastructure and trying to abstract away the hairy systems complexity that gets in the way of people building amazing ML applications.// Related LinksWebsite: https://www.davidhershey.com/~~~~~~~~ ✌️Connect With Us ✌️ ~~~~~~~Catch all episodes, blogs, newsletters, and more: https://go.mlops.community/TYExploreJoin our slack community [https://go.mlops.community/slack]Follow us on X/Twitter [@mlopscommunity](https://x.com/mlopscommunity) or [LinkedIn](https://go.mlops.community/linkedin)] Sign up for the next meetup: [https://go.mlops.community/register]MLOps Swag/Merch: [https://shop.mlops.community/]Connect with Demetrios on LinkedIn: /dpbrinkmConnect with David on LinkedIn: /david-hershey-458ab081
In this episode, Torrey Snow delves into the declaration from Maryland's General Assembly regarding the expansion of the sales tax to include IT and data services. Torrey dissects the decision's implications, the arguments from various political figures, and the potential impacts on small businesses and the IT industry in Maryland. State Senator Steve Hershey and State Delegate Stu Schmidt join the program to break down whether the state's move is a step towards modernization or a misstep that could send businesses packing. In addition, Baltimore City Police Commissioner Richard Worley discuss the decline of homicides in Baltimore, officer morale, changing the culture, and more.
The Daily Wire was founded in 2015 and grew astronomically in its first few years. By 2018, they were by far the most popular right-wing publisher on all of Facebook, and by 2021, their stories received more social media attention than any other news publisher, according to NPR. They made their headlines over the years, from un-cancelling conservatives that had been unjustly fired or hitting back at woke companies like Harry's Razors and Hershey's chocolate.But as of yesterday, March 18th, co-CEO and co-founder Jeremy Boering is stepping down as CEO. Whether it was willingly or unwillingly doesn't really matter; it's a huge shake-up for someone as visible as Jeremy. Behind the scenes, things are not good either: their two biggest stars, Candace Owens and Brett Cooper, have departed to considerable success elsewhere. Their daily content, streaming services, and film endeavors aren't making the impact they used to.It would be tempting to chalk this up to mismanagement and internal drama. But underneath there's a bigger theme. DailyWire was the disruption to legacy media. Young, informed millennials and Gen X have largely stopped watching cable TV and consume their news via the internet. Daily Wire leapt on that trend right as it took off.But eventually, the disrupters become the establishment, prone to disruption again. And now, a mere 10 years from its founding, Daily Wire is finding out that it is what Fox News was in 2015. An aging, “legacy” establishment that couldn't take the next step to keep up with a rapidly changing culture and Overton window.This episode is brought to you by our premier sponsors, Armored Republic and Reece Fund, as well as our Patreon members and donors. You can join our Patreon at patreon.com/rightresponseministries or you can donate at rightresponseministries.com/donate.So today, we are going to talk about the Rise and Fall of the Daily Wire, the coming decline of alternative media, and where new personalities are filling the void.*MINISTRY SPONSORS:*ENTER TO WIN 2 FREE TICKETS TO OUR APRIL 2025 CONFERENCE BY Signing Up For Private Family Bankings Email List1. Email Banking@privatefamilybanking.com2. Use Subject Line: April Ticket Giveaway3. Provide Your Full Name & Contact Phone Number4. Private Family Banking will be in touch for the winner of the tickets.*Private Family Banking*How to Connect with Private Family Banking:1. FREE 20-MINUTE COURSE HERE: https://www.canva.com/design/DAF2TQVcA10/WrG1FmoJYp9o9oUcAwKUdA/view2. Send an email inquiry to chuck@privatefamilybanking.com3. Receive a FREE e-book entitled "How to Build Multi-Generational Wealth Outside of Wall Street and Avoid the Coming Banking Meltdown", by going to https://www.protectyourmoneynow.net4. Set up a FREE Private Family Banking Discovery call using this link: https://calendly.com/familybankingnow/30min5. For a Multi-Generational Wealth Planning Guide Book for only $4.99, use this link for my affiliate relationship with "Seven Generations Legacy": https://themoneyadvantage.idevaffiliate.com/13.html*Reece Fund: Christian Capital - Boldly Deployedhttps://www.reecefund.com/*Dominion: Wealth Strategists* is a full-service financial planning and wealth management firm dedicated to putting more money in the hands of the church. With an education focused approach, they will help you take dominion over your finances.https://reformed.money/
The days are getting longer and we're halfway through the 3rd month of the year. Here's what we got for ya this week...- Celebrating St. Patrick's Day- The Best 90's Comedy Movies Tournament- What would you do if money was no object?- The good & bad of Hershey, PA- WWE Hot TakesAll of this & more... We hope you have a great week!Stay connected with all things 3CT related at https://linktr.ee/3countthursday Subscribe to the show on ALL podcast platforms & YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@3CountThursday)You can get your 3CT merch on TeePublic at https://www.teepublic.com/user/3countthursdayCreative Commons Music used in this show created by Jason Shaw on https://audionautix.com/
Follow Porter at: https://portersjournal.com/ We're joined by our old friend Porter Stansberry, founder of Porter and Company, for an in-depth discussion on investing, market trends, and financial newsletters. Porter shares his journey influenced by Doug Casey and delves into the importance of quality investment research. The conversation includes noteworthy insights from financial theory, stock market cycles, bond markets, and the profound impacts of technology and social aspects on investments. Porter also introduces his investment favorites like Hershey and Hovnanian, highlighting strategies for finding resilient stocks. The discussion wraps up on personal notes about friendships and enduring grace in volatile times. This episode is packed with valuable advice for anyone interested in markets and investing. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:31 Porter's Early Career and Mentorship by Doug Casey 01:11 Insights on the Investment Newsletter Industry 01:46 Financial Theory and Newsletters: A Discussion on Quality 10:19 Market Trends and Predictions 18:08 The Impact of Technology on Finance and Society 20:30 The Future of Robotics and AI 29:59 Philosophical Reflections and Major Mistakes in History 41:56 Online Poker Legalization in the US 42:24 Impact of AI on Employment 42:47 Universal Basic Income and Job Displacement 42:51 Historical Job Programs and Government Interventions 43:25 AI's Effect on Various Job Sectors 44:05 Future of Human Creativity and AI Limitations 45:38 Economic Predictions and Historical Comparisons 48:29 Personal Anecdotes and Experiences 50:24 Technological Advancements and Societal Changes 01:02:25 Market Analysis and Investment Strategies 01:13:14 Closing Remarks and Gratitude
Pennsylvania is updating its 22-year-old voter registration system. Researchers and staff at the University of Pittsburgh are speaking out against proposed funding cuts to the National Institutes of Health. Visually impaired residents in northeastern Pa. have a resource designed to help them maintain independence. Dauphin County hired at least four former employees as consultants almost immediately after they left their full-time government roles, against state law. A cold-case investigation by York City Police yielded several felony charges against three suspects — including homicide and attempted homicide. The City of Reading is planning to use a new fleet management system and dashboard cameras on fifty vehicles. Tröegs Independent Brewing of Hershey, was voted by USA TODAY readers as the No. 1 brewery tour in the country.Support WITF: https://www.witf.org/support/give-now/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
It is the greatest individual performance in basketball history: Sixty-three years ago this weekend, a larger-than-life superhero conjured the supernatural. Why do so many people — including a player on the court — now think it was fake news? Our quest for irrefutable proof (and poetry) unpacks boxes that you won't find in the Hall of Fame: The recordings from author Gary Pomerantz, who spoke to 56 people in attendance and on the court. The tapes, which we unearthed from a rare-book library, a basement closet and a vault in Hershey, Pennsylvania. Plus: the last Warrior left standing to check the facts — and shake a fist at the naysayers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
It is the greatest individual performance in basketball history: Sixty-three years ago this weekend, a larger-than-life superhero conjured the supernatural. Why do so many people — including a player on the court — now think it was fake news? Our quest for irrefutable proof (and poetry) unpacks boxes that you won't find in the Hall of Fame: The recordings from author Gary Pomerantz, who spoke to 56 people in attendance and on the court. The tapes, which we unearthed from a rare-book library, a basement closet and a vault in Hershey, Pennsylvania. Plus: the last Warrior left standing to check the facts — and shake a fist at the naysayers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
It is the greatest individual performance in basketball history: Sixty-three years ago this weekend, a larger-than-life superhero conjured the supernatural. Why do so many people — including a player on the court — now think it was fake news? Our quest for irrefutable proof (and poetry) unpacks boxes that you won't find in the Hall of Fame: The recordings from author Gary Pomerantz, who spoke to 56 people in attendance and on the court. The tapes, which we unearthed from a rare-book library, a basement closet and a vault in Hershey, Pennsylvania. Plus: the last Warrior left standing to check the facts — and shake a fist at the naysayers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Here's a quick recap of the history of chocolate. And correct, Meredith never knows how to pronounce anything. It's all good:Ancient OriginsChocolate's history dates back over 3,000 years to Mesoamerica (modern-day Mexico and Central America). The Olmecs (1500-400 BCE) were likely the first to cultivate cacao and use it for ceremonial drinks. Later, the Mayans and Aztecs adopted cacao, turning it into a bitter, spiced beverage called “xocoatl,” often mixed with chili, vanilla, and honey. The Aztecs valued cacao so highly that they used cacao beans as currency.Chocolate Arrives in EuropeIn the early 1500s, Spanish explorers, including Hernán Cortés, brought cacao to Spain. The Spanish sweetened the bitter drink with sugar and cinnamon, making it a luxury for the elite. Over the next century, chocolate spread across Europe, becoming a favorite among royalty, including King Louis XIV of France.The Birth of Modern ChocolateBy the 19th century, advancements in processing made chocolate more accessible:1828: Dutch chemist Coenraad van Houten invented the cocoa press, creating cocoa powder and making chocolate smoother.1847: The British company J.S. Fry & Sons created the first solid chocolate bar.1875: Swiss chocolatier Daniel Peter combined chocolate with milk, inventing milk chocolate. His friend Henri Nestlé helped refine the process.1879: Rodolphe Lindt developed conching, giving chocolate a smoother texture.The Chocolate BoomBy the 20th century, major brands like Hershey's (1900), Cadbury, and Mars made chocolate widely available, mass producing chocolate bars, truffles, and confections.Today, chocolate remains one of the world's most beloved treats, evolving into a multibillion-dollar industry with artisanal and ethical chocolate production gaining popularity. All the Clopen links: https://linktr.ee/theclopeneffectSupport us here to keep us recording: https://the-clopen-effect.captivate.fm/supportBuy merch here because it's cool: https://www.zazzle.com/the_clopen_effect_t_shirt-256038010043042814All material, unless otherwise stated, written and performed by The Clopen EffectFrom our other podcast, the book: Anxiety Makes Me Poop, Too: https://a.co/d/3eDNUzn
Two things can be true. (00:14) Bill Barker and Ricky Mulvey discuss: - Legislation to ban DeepSeek on US government devices. - Hershey's quarter, and what it reveals about American eating habits. - Eli Lilly's blockbuster weight-loss drugs, and questions about its valuation. Then, (18:26) Ricky continues his conversation with writer Jordan Harper about the challenges of making TV and movies in the streaming era. Companies discussed: NVDA, HSY, LLY Host: Ricky Mulvey Guests: Bill Barker, Jordan Harper Producer: Mary Long Engineer: Rick Engdahl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
2%ers this is for you! We've got King James himself stopping by on this episode of New Heights presented by Hershey's. Shop Reese's Chocolate Lava Big Cup now at a store near you. LeBron sits down with Jason and Travis to talk all things Wild Card Weekend, how close he came to playing in the NFL, some of his favorite times hooping in Cleveland, the Championship that means the most to him, and his real thoughts on playing with Bronny. We also settle the debate on which league owns Christmas, get the backstory on a legendary pick-up game against Michael Jordan, and find out how much longer “this f*******” can go on. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
92%ers this is for you! We've got King James himself stopping by on this episode of New Heights presented by Hershey's. Shop Reese's Chocolate Lava Big Cup now at a store near you. LeBron sits down with Jason and Travis to talk all things Wild Card Weekend, how close he came to playing in the NFL, some of his favorite times hooping in Cleveland, the Championship that means the most to him, and his real thoughts on playing with Bronny. We also settle the debate on which league owns Christmas, get the backstory on a legendary pick-up game against Michael Jordan, and find out how much longer “this fuckery” can go on. Finally, as promised, we look ahead to the divisional round of the playoffs and blindly rank our favorite Will Ferrell movies. If you want to join us in supporting the relief efforts in California, please visit https://www.redcross.org/nflYou can listen to new episodes early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. https://Wondery.fm/NH_RT See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
92%ers we are back with another episode of New Heights presented by Hershey's. Shop Reese's Chocolate Lava Big Cup now at a store near you. We are getting ready for Championship Sunday but first Jason and Travis share their thoughts on the College Football Playoffs, the great TikTok blackout of 2025, and what rules changes Jason was willing to pitch Roger Goodell. We also have a lot of football to talk about starting with Travis' thoughts on the Chiefs advancing to their 7th straight AFC title game, his mentality when it comes time for the playoffs, and Jason's candid opinions about the ongoing referee debate surrounding the Chiefs. There's also a breakdown of the rest of the divisional round with the Saquon running wild in Snow Bowl II, Jayden Daniel's huge upset over the Lions, and Lamar Jackson coming up short against the Bills. Also, find out which member of the New Heights team has a hobby horser in the family and just how long it took us to name Travis' playoff beard. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. ...Download the full podcast here:Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMbApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynwFollow New Heights on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshowCheck out our ‘Ultimate Fan Collection' at https://homage.com/newheightsSupport the Show: HERSHEY: Shop Reese's Chocolate Lava Big Cups now at a store near you. Found wherever candy is sold. MINT MOBILE: Unlimited talk, text and data plans for $15 a month when you purchase a 3-month plan. To get this new customer offer, go to https://mintmobile.com/newheights. FARMER'S DOG: Get 50% off your first box of fresh, healthy food at https://TheFarmersDog.com/newheights. Plus, you get FREE shipping!AMERICAN EXPRESS: For full terms and to learn more about the Powerful backing of American Express, visit https://americanexpress.com/withAmexALLSTATE: Checking first is smart. So, check https://Allstate.com first for a quote that could save you hundreds. DRAFT KINGS: Don't miss out on all the action this week at DraftKings! Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up using https://dkng.co/newheights or through promo code NEWHEIGHTS.GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY).Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD).21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). 1 per new customer. $5+ first-time bet req. Max. $200 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 2/9/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.