Podcasts about naturals

We're diving into why progesterone matters when it comes to your fertility especially if you're navigating low AMH, high FSH, poor egg quality, or miscarriage You'll learn how this key hormone supports implantation, calms the immune system, balances estrogen, and improves mood and sleep. We'll explore what causes low progesterone, how to test it (beyond the standard Day 21 blood draw), and practical steps you can take right now to start rebuilding your hormonal foundation. Whether you've had IVF cycles that didn't work or you're just beginning to ask why things aren't clicking, this episode will help you uncover the hidden hormonal imbalances that may be standing in the way and give you a clear path forward. This episode is for you: Have low AMH or high FSH and want to understand how progesterone fits into the picture. Navigating recurrent pregnancy loss and wondering if low progesterone could be a contributing factor Have been told you have poor egg quality and are looking for a more personalized, functional approach to support your hormones. In this episode you'll learn: The signs your body may require progesterone support Why inflammation, stress, gut health, and liver function matter How to naturally support progesterone through food, lifestyle, testing, and targeted supplements DUTCH Test 101: Why It's Important For Fertility: https://fabfertile.com/blogs/podcasts/dutch-test-101-why-its-important-for-fertility?_pos=1&_sid=b889f5c33&_ss=r Why Your Gut Microbiome Matters for Low AMH and High FSH: https://fabfertile.com/blogs/podcasts/why-your-gut-microbiome-matters-for-low-amh-and-high-fsh?_pos=1&_sid=062f03680&_ss=r Our favorite progesterone cream: Ona's Naturals: https://us.onasnatural.com/?rfsn=8376489.72e723 (Use code FABFERTILE to save 10%) The Link Between Sleep and Fertility: Why Getting Enough Rest Matters: https://fabfertile.com/blogs/podcasts/how-poor-sleep-could-be-sabotaging-your-egg-quality?_pos=6&_sid=838d9b670&_ss=r Oura Ring:  https://ouraring.com/why-oura Understanding and Managing Progesterone Levels To Improve Pregnancy Success: https://fabfertile.com/blogs/education/understanding-and-managing-progesterone-levels-to-improve-pregnancy-success?_pos=2&_sid=3380745f3&_ss=r Ovarian vascular aging: a hidden driver of mid-age female fertility decline (discusses Rhodiola): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41514-025-00216-1?utm_source=Newsletter+list&utm_campaign=430d9b8ac7-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2024_12_16_03_14_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-d2a8390d80-482938369 Our favorite fertility tracker (use code FABFERTILE15 to save 15): https://www.inito.com/en-us/?srsltid=AfmBOoo85sXu_esmFN5Kz6iysaTkBKgYl35Jubv-BaLkkxXVggdk6nes Fab Fertile Method https://www.fabfertile.com/what-we-do/ Ultimate Guide to Getting Pregnant This Year If You Have Low AMH/High FSH - https://fabfertile.clickfunnels.com/optinvbzjfsii Not sure where to start? Book a 15-minute call here and we'll give you options to help. ---

In this summer-kickoff episode of Cannabis Man, host Don Kleppin celebrates Memorial Day weekend, his birthday, and the third anniversary of the podcast. He shares favorite warm-weather traditions, plans for the weekend, and reviews a new Mandarin Pomelo THC seltzer from WYNK along with a CBD patch from Neno's Naturals. This week's guest is Michael Sassano, CEO of Somai Pharmaceuticals, who breaks down the global growth of medical cannabis and the challenges of regulation across continents. From Germany and Thailand to Spain and France, Sassano details the rise of pharmaceutical-grade cannabis and predicts a sweeping medical adoption over the next five years. Don also wraps the week's top cannabis headlines: a THC ban bill in Texas, how tariffs may hit cannabis supply chains, and an update on rescheduling delays reportedly tied to the DEA. He ends on a hopeful note with news that daily CBD use may curb alcohol cravings, and, of course, a brand new High Haiku.

True health encompasses so much more than just diet and exercise. However, you don't need complicated routines, a lot of money, or elaborate gadgets to make a positive impact on your health. Some of the most powerful things you can do to improve your longevity, boost your immune system, and lower your stress have to do with simple behaviors and habits you can create in your home. Today, you're going to learn about the impactful role that community can have on your microbiome, your disease risk, and your overall health. On this episode of The Model Health Show, you're going to hear my conversation with the incredible Dr. Amy Shah for her podcast, Save Yourself. In this conversation, we discussed the importance of shared family meals, how to prioritize eating real food, and why your relationships are a key determinant of your health. This episode is packed with the science behind how cultivating healthy relationships can influence your microbiome, your sleep, your immune system, and so much more. You're also going to learn the top two most important things you can do to transform your health. I hope you enjoy my conversation with Dr. Amy Shah!  In this episode you'll discover:  The most important part about being human. (09:48) How eating with your family can impact your health. (12:22) Why being part of a community can improve your microbiome. (14:47) The health benefits of multi-generational living. (17:52) An interesting fact about humans, evolution, and menopause. (23:13) Why creating your own community can transform your life. (25:24) How sharing meals with your children can reduce their risk of obesity and disordered eating. (28:04) The connection between the time spent at a table and health outcomes. (33:45) What the #1 factor is that influences longevity is. (38:04) Which hormone is the antidote to stress. (39:27) Why personalization is the key to health. (41:22) The most powerful nutrition shift you can make. (41:44) How American children's diets have become inundated with ultra-processed food. (42:37) The #1 way to minimize the ultra-processed food in your diet. (45:50) What post-ingestive feedback is. (49:14) What sleep nutrients are. (54:41) How often you should aim to share a meal with others. (58:09)  Items mentioned in this episode include:  Beekeepersnaturals.com/model - Save 25% sitewide through May 27!  PaleoValley.com/model - Use code MODEL for 15% off! Save Yourself with Dr. Amy Shah - Subscribe to Dr. Amy Shah's podcast! Eat Smarter Family Cookbook - Transform the health, fitness, and connection of your entire family with the Eat Smarter Family Cookbook!  Be sure you are subscribed to this podcast to automatically receive your episodes:   Apple Podcasts Spotify Soundcloud Pandora YouTube   This episode of The Model Health Show is brought to you by Beekeeper's Naturals and Paleovalley. Reinvent your medicine cabinet for with clean, effective products powered by the beehive & backed by science. Shop the Memorial Day Sale now through May 27th and get 25% off sitewide at beekeepersnaturals.com/model. Use my code MODEL at PaleoValley.com/model to save 15% sitewide on nutrient dense snacks, superfood supplements, and more.   

Oh hello De-Influencers!! Happy Thursday! This one is a doozy as we have MUCH to discuss! We have a FULL ACM Awards recap from Dani, a wild rabbit hole of our favorite latest podcasts and movies. Plus, we're talking about influencers AND Hollywood which you will not want to miss. We scored some great deals with a few of our favorite brands for our listeners: Looking for a formula and want to try Bobbie? Bobbie has an exclusive offer just for De-Influenced listeners. First, visit www.hibobbie.com to find the recipe that fits your journey. Then, apply promo code DANI to get an additional 10% off on your first purchase. Today, Beekeeper's Naturals is offering you an exclusive offer: Go to beekeepersnaturals.com/DANI or enter code DANI to get 20% off your order! Give yourself the luxury you deserve with Quince! Go to Quince.com/dani for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Receive 50% off your first order. To claim this deal you must go to hiyahealth.com/DANIAUSTIN. This deal is not available on their regular website. Go to shopminnow.com and enter code SHOPMINNOW15 at checkout to receive 15% off your first order. That's shopminnow.com code SHOPMINNOW15 for 15% off. Make sure you're subscribed to our official channel on YouTube, @deinfluencedpodcast, and follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your De-Influenced fix! Stay connected with us on Instagram and TikTok @deinfluencedpodcast, and as always thank you for being a part of this journey.  We'll see you next time! We love y'all!! Produced by Dear Media

249: On today's episode of Realfoodology, we're rethinking how we approach healing, immune health, and the everyday products we trust — especially for our families. Courtney sits down with Carly Kremer, founder of Beekeeper's Naturals, to explore how bee-based remedies like propolis and raw honey can help reinvent the medicine cabinet with functional, natural ingredients that actually support the body. They also discuss why synthetic additives like dyes and corn syrup still show up in OTC meds, why Flonase might not be the best choice, and the emerging science behind nutraceuticals that work with your immune system — not against it. Go to beekeepersnaturals.com/REALFOODOLOGY or enter code REALFOODOLOGY to get 20% off your order.  Topics Discussed: Using food as medicine to support immune health naturally The power of propolis and how science and nature intersect in modern medicine Navigating fear around food toxins while maintaining a balanced approach to health The brain-boosting benefits of royal jelly and other nutraceuticals Supporting brain health naturally with specialized products and environmental toxin considerations Sponsored By: MASA | Go to MASAChips.com/Realfoodology and use code Realfoodology for 25% off your first order. Go to beekeepersnaturals.com/REALFOODOLOGY or enter code REALFOODOLOGY to get 20% off your order.  Timestamps:  00:00 – Introduction 00:03 – Reinvent Your Medicine Cabinet Naturally 00:06 – What's in Cough Syrup? Why Honey Is Better 00:09 – Food as Medicine for Immune Support 00:13 – Immune Tools for Kids Before Getting Sick 00:15 – Are Nasal Sprays Safe for Kids? 00:18 – Overcoming Stigma Around Natural Remedies 00:20 – Propolis: Bee-Based Immune Boost 00:24 – Risks of Flonase & Why Natural Medicine Matters 00:28 – Food Dyes, FDA, and U.S. Regulation Insights 00:32 – Vetting Wellness Brands: Transparency & Testing 00:37 – Managing Food Toxins Without Fear 00:46 – Hidden Sugars in Medicine & Kid-Friendly Options 00:50 – Honey vs. Refined Sugar: What's Different? 00:54 – Royal Jelly for Brain Health & Stress 01:00 – How Heat Affects Honey & Best Uses 01:01 – Natural Brain Support & Pregnancy Tips 01:05 – Courtney's Fertility Journey & Natural Boosts 01:10 – Where to Buy Beekeeper's Naturals + Discounts Show Links:  Go to beekeepersnaturals.com/REALFOODOLOGY or enter code REALFOODOLOGY to get 20% off your order. Check Out Courtney:  LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide! @realfoodology www.realfoodology.com My Immune Supplement by 2x4 Air Dr Air Purifier AquaTru Water Filter EWG Tap Water Database Produced By: Drake Peterson

Autumn Calabrese - Beachbody's #1 Super Trainer and creator of the viral 21 Day Fix program - joins Dr. Will Cole for a powerful conversation on transforming women's health from the inside out. She opens up about the science and soul behind her new hormone-focused program Belle Vitale, her thoughts on the overuse of cardio, and how to stop punishing your body in the name of progress. From understanding bio-individuality to balancing your workouts with restorative movement like Pilates, this episode is packed with tangible wellness takeaways for women at any stage of life. For all links mentioned in this episode, visit www.drwillcole.com/podcastPlease note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Sponsors:Go to beekeepersnaturals.com/WILLCOLE or enter code WILLCOLE to get 20% off your order. Beekeeper's Naturals products are also available at Target, Whole Foods, Amazon, CVS, and Walgreens.Get 20% off, or if you choose the already discounted subscription, you get almost a third off the price! Only when you visit my exclusive URL Puori.com/WILLCOLE and use my promo code WILLCOLE. Visit https://www.ActiveSkinRepair.com to learn more about Active Skin Repair and to get 20% off your order, use code: WILLCOLE.Visit https://www.ActiveSkinRepair.com to learn more aboutActive Skin Repair and to get 20% off your order, usecode:WILLCOLE.Go to BelleVitale.com and use code BV15 to get 15% off.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

05 12 25 Early Season Naturals by Ag PhD

L'últim és al parc Johan Cruyff, on també s'han instal·lat quatre taules de pícnic.

Estudios recientes sobre ADN antiguo demuestran que más que fenicio, nuestro pasado es púnico. La civilización de Cartago se mezcló con los habitantes de la península mucho mejor que los griegos y eso les concedió un carácter cosmopolita que también nos define. A esa conclusión ha llegado el investigador Carles Lalueza-Fox, director del Museu de Ciències Naturals de Barcelona y también experto en ADN Antiguo. Habrá que reescribir la historia y en eso están. Han analizado el genoma de más de 210 individuos de 14 yacimientos mediterráneos y han encontrado a dos primos hermanos, muertos a uno y otro lado del mar. Eran viajeros, ávidos de conocer nuevas culturas y mezclarse sin problema con ellas, por eso ahora denominan a la civilización púnica como realmente cosmopolita. Recibimos la noticia de la desaparición este año del Sea Jazz L'Estartit, su directora Montse Faura explica los rasgos que hacen único este Festival. Escuchamos la música de: BADIAA BOUHRIZI- Ila Selma;BURRUEZO BOHEMIA CAMERATA+ WAFIR GIBRIL- Tawhid Cafe; EVOÉH- Una matica de ruda; AL ANDALUZ PROJECT- Afdihi Dabian Ibtassam; GABACHO MAROC- Bouderbala; ANA ALCAIDE - Aguaribay; LA BANDA MORISCA- Algarabía; ORIOL MARES + TALAL FAYAD - Gitme; LENACAY- Consejos vendo.Escuchar audio

Happy Wednesday! Today on Good Morning Aurora we are excited to welcome a new guest, Carisa, and to talk about her business, Ursula Naturals. We've seen and heard about Ursula Naturals and now we will get to speak to the founder of this amazing business. Follow the business here on Facebook and social media! Here's the news:- Visit Alive Aurora every Monday, Wednesday and Friday for Drop In Space for 5th through 12th graders! From 3:00 pm to 7:00 pm there will be a variety of activities to take part in, teen-led and teen-driven. See the flyer for more details and follow the Alive Center on Facebook and Instagram!Have a great rest of the day! Good Morning Aurora will return with more news, weather and the very best of Aurora. Subscribe to the show on YouTube at this link: https://www.youtube.com/c/GoodMorningAuroraPodcastThe second largest city's first daily news podcast is here. Tune in 5 days a week, Monday thru Friday from 9:00 to 9:30 am. Make sure to like and subscribe to stay updated on all things Aurora.Threads: https://www.threads.net/@goodmorningaurorailInstagram: goodmorningaurorailSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6dVweK5Zc4uPVQQ0Fp1vEP...Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/.../good-morning.../id1513229463Anchor: https://anchor.fm/goodmorningauroraACTV (Aurora Community Television): https://www.aurora-il.org/309/Aurora-Community-TV#positivevibes #positiveenergy #kanecountyil #bataviail #genevail #stcharlesil #saintcharlesil #elginil #northaurorail #auroraillinois #cityofaurorail #auroramedia #auroranews #goodmorningaurora #morningnews #morningshow #wednesday #ursulanaturals

We recap a couple of great NBA games, Zach tells us about his day game with the Naturals, and we take a few calls.

Today, you're going to discover four specific strategies that you can use to spark change in your life. Whether you want to transform your body, pivot career paths, or improve the quality of your relationships, mindset is the key to help you reach your goal. On this compilation episode of The Model Health Show, you're going to hear from four motivating and knowledgeable experts in the fields of mindset, neuroscience, and personal development. You're going to learn about your innate capability to create change. Specifically, you're going to learn how to tap into mental habits that can transform the way you think, behave, and ultimately produce results. You're going to learn how to optimize your stress to build stronger resilience, how to shift your identity to create new outcomes, how to harness specific networks in your brain, and so much more. This episode is going to arm you with specific tools and strategies that will change the way you think about yourself and the world around you, so click play and enjoy the show! In this episode you'll discover:  The power of having an intentional moment in the morning. Why a simple high five is so impactful. The fascinating science of neurobics. What the fastest way to create new neuropathways is. The three emotional needs that every human has. What value tagging is, and how to use it to manifest. Which specific brain networks are activated through manifestation. The importance of writing down your intentions. Why good stress can enrich us. How optimizing stress can build your resilience. The three variables of stress. How exercise can upregulate your mitochondria. What the single biggest predictor of mortality is. Why your identity determines your outcomes. Three ways to shift your identity. How the reticular activating system works. The #1 way to change your thinking.   Items mentioned in this episode include:  Beekeepersnaturals.com/model - Save up to 30% on natural remedies! The Science of Self-Belief with Mel Robbins - Listen to episode 514! Manifest the Life of Your Dreams with Dr. James Doty - Listen to episode 824! Why You Need Stress with Dr. Sharon Horesh Bergquist - Listen to episode 881! Instantly Transform Your Mindset with Ed Mylett - Listen to episode 587!   Be sure you are subscribed to this podcast to automatically receive your episodes:   Apple Podcasts Spotify Soundcloud Pandora YouTube   This episode of The Model Health Show is brought to you by Beekeeper's Naturals. Reinvent your medicine cabinet for with clean, effective products powered by the beehive & backed by science. Claim up to a 30% discount at beekeepersnaturals.com/model. 

Are your gut and your mood more connected than you think? Absolutely—and today we're unpacking why. In this empowering episode of the Natalie Tysdal Podcast, I'm joined by Sylvia Hall, founder of Lifted Naturals, who shares her personal journey of postpartum mood swings, digestive struggles, and the surprising healing power of gut health.   Together, we explore the science-backed links between the gut and brain—and how you can harness that knowledge to boost your mood, resilience, and energy naturally. What You'll Learn: The science behind the gut-brain connection—and why over 90% of serotonin is made in your gut   How stress, poor sleep, and even pesticides disrupt your microbiome and mental health   Easy, everyday habits to support your gut and emotional well-being (think: sunlight, routine, and nutrition)   Why not all probiotics are created equal—and how to choose the right strains for mood support   Family-friendly tips for improving kids' gut health and emotional balance   Plus, Sylvia shares real-life stories from the Lifted Naturals community—and a powerful reminder that self-awareness is the first step toward healing.   Whether you're navigating anxiety, burnout, or just want to feel like yourself again, this episode gives you real tools—not trends—for mind-body wellness.   Free Resource: Download my FREE Gut Reset Plan – A simple, science-backed 5-day reset to support digestion, reduce bloat, and improve energy.   Connect with Sylvia Hall & Lifted Naturals: Website: liftednaturals.com Instagram: @liftednaturals Facebook: Lifted Naturals   Stay Connected with Natalie: Website: natalietysdal.com Newsletter: Sign Up Here Instagram: @ntysdal Facebook: Natalie Tysdal YouTube: Watch Interviews Pinterest: Natalie Tysdal TikTok: @ntysdal   If you loved this episode, don't forget to rate and review the podcast—it helps others find trusted health content without the fluff.

In this energetic recap, Lesley and Brad revisit Lesley's roundtable interview with the OPC teachers and reflect on the power of community, inclusive movement, and consistency. They explore how each teacher's unique journey contributes to the magic of OPC and share how the platform was designed to help every body feel seen and supported. Whether you're a teacher or a student, there's space for you here. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why OPC values community as much as consistency.How a curated class format supports movement without overwhelm.What it means to take messy action—and why it works.How diverse life experiences strengthen teaching and student connection.Why movement “snacks” can reframe how you approach exercises.Episode References/Links:Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukChat with Us - https://opc.me/chatSummer Tour - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comJoin OPC - https://onlinepilatesclasses.comMindi Westfall - https://instagram.com/bendymindipilatesRachel Piper - https://instagram.com/size_diverse_pilatesChristine Kam-Lynch - https://instagram.com/pilates.boundMegan Lauman - https://instagram.com/megans_pilatesYasmin Scholten - https://instagram.com/purapilates_yasmin If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/ Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  A lot of people want to be a teacher on the platform it's because they want to be part of something. And I can tell you right now, even if you're not on the platform teaching it, when you're in the community, you're absolutely part of something. Lesley Logan 0:11  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the invigorating convo, the chaotic convo, the most amazing, we have the most guests ever, convo with the OPC teachers, minus Tami, but we'll have her on in a couple of weeks. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you are missing out on some giggles and some fun. And I'm just so glad that Brad, if you guys are watching this on YouTube, I apologize for all the moving, because I asked Brad with my eyes, if we were ready for this. Brad Crowell 1:21  You asked me with your eyes? Lesley Logan 1:22  Yes. And you did a you did an acknowledgement. Brad Crowell 1:25  I'm just making sure you're on the screen. Lesley Logan 1:27  Yeah. And if you are listening to this, just so you know, you will not get motion sickness like everyone else is right now. Okay, he's settled. We're settled. Brad Crowell 1:34  Sunglasses. Lesley Logan 1:37  Okay, now, now we're all just experiencing what ADD and ADHD looks like in the same room. This is a lot. This is confusing. I'm gone, now I've lost track. Okay, let's bring this bus back on the road. So you should listen to the OPC teachers, because they're so fun. We had five of us. Well, I guess me. Brad Crowell 1:56  You count, you're a teacher. Lesley Logan 1:58  I know. So we're. Brad Crowell 1:59  Six out of seven. Lesley Logan 1:59  Six out of seven. We were missing Tami. It's really hard to get all the time zones to work, guys, so I was pretty proud of us to get six, but we'll have Tami on because we actually have really fun thing coming up with her later this year. So, at any rate. Brad Crowell 2:08  Yasmin lives in Germany, you know. Lesley Logan 2:11  I know. And guess whose internet was the one that was fucked up? Ours. So anyways, not that Germany has bad internet, but I'm just saying, like out of all the time zones, I just was having some problems. They were talking without me. They planned a whole trip while I was just, bye, disappered. Brad Crowell 2:23  Yeah, I know you popped back on and they were like, yep, we're just making plans. We're gonna get together. Lesley Logan 2:27  Yeah, they're having an overnight, that's what the OPC teachers do. They love summer parties and anything that brings community together. So you'll just want to listen to that one, but first we'll recap it, and then you can go back and listen. So this is what happens when I take over. I actually know the day, but I'm going to do it anyways, because I know what I wrote. So today is May 1st 2025, and it's Couple Appreciation Day. Brad Crowell 2:47  That's fun. Lesley Logan 2:47  Couple Appreciation Day, just so you know, on May 1st there's 40 other holidays. I had a lot of things I could choose from, but Couple Appreciation Day.Brad Crowell 2:54  Lesley produced, partly produced this episode. Lesley Logan 2:56  I did, I did. It's going to be a mess. So Couple Appreciation Day is celebrated on May 1st whether you've just started dating or you've been married for many years, it's important to appreciate your partner now and then. Celebrating the milestones you've passed and looking to more happy years in the future helps keep the romance alive. Even the smallest of gestures can make an impact. Do the chore so your partner can relax or prepare a nice meal when they come home exhausted from work. Romance doesn't have to be elaborate over the top, unless, of course, that's what a couple is into. But also, today. Brad Crowell 3:25  Can just be a touch on the shoulder or a thank you. Lesley Logan 3:27  You know, do something you're not usually doing without being asked. That's probably the best thing. Brad Crowell 3:32  If you always get flowers. Change it up. Change it up. Lesley Logan 3:34  Yeah, get chocolates or get flowers and chocolates.Brad Crowell 3:37  Or don't give something, but do an act of service or something else. Lesley Logan 3:42  If there's something that your partner complains about doing, maybe try to do it for them. Or if they are tired of driving, maybe today you get them an Uber gift card and they get to have a chauffeur to work. Brad Crowell 3:54  Ooh, that's a fun idea. Lesley Logan 3:57  Also, one of the other holidays today in the Philippines, it's Labor Day. So to our team in the Philippines, we have a lot of people out there. Happy Labor Day to you, by the way, that means it's like May Day, which is a whole historical day that I know about, but surface level. So I'm not going to go into it, but it led to a National Phone-In-Sick Day to make sure that the world knows what happens without your labor. And since we are on the theme of little ways of protesting, if you are an employee somewhere and you have sick days and you haven't been using them, use one. Call in sick. Let people know what it's, let people know what happens if they don't have their team. But just remember, to our team, Happy Labor Day. Have the day off and we love you. So, okay, we are headed to the UK this fall. This is for Pilates teachers and really big in Pilates enthusiasts. We have two locations. We have six workshops. Two are business, Pilates business, and four are Pilates movement related. We've got two classes. The deal on this thing is insanity. If you were to buy each thing one at a time, it was, like, almost $2,000 and we're selling it for, like, I don't know, 550 pounds or something like that. So you'll want to go to opc.me/uk to sign up and snag your spot on the limited spots that we have. Brad Crowell 5:14  Our second person who registered is coming in from Europe, so. Lesley Logan 5:18  Yeah, you can come in from Europe. Brad Crowell 5:20  Yeah, we're going to be in Essex or Leeds, and there's plenty of hotels in the area. Lesley Logan 5:25  And Leeds, the ors. Brad Crowell 5:26  Sorry, yeah, for you, you could pick one of the two. We will be in both. I mean, hell, you want to come to both? Come to both.Lesley Logan 5:33  There's only one workshop that repeats itself, and it's one that you probably want to go to twice, to be completely honest. So it's really amazing. And then this particular Saturday is Pilates Day. It's International Pilates day, the first Saturday of May. And in honor of that, we'll be wrapping up our spring training event. So you, probably too late to join us, to be completely honest, but we'll be doing that. I'm really, really excited. Brad Crowell 5:54  Maybe not. Lesley Logan 5:55  I don't know. Brad Crowell 5:55  If you want to hop in right now. Lesley Logan 5:57  You can. You'll, you'll have a week of replays, still not from today, but I think to the 10th. So you have seven days. So yeah.Brad Crowell 6:03  If you're, if like, you're watching, if you listen to this the day it comes out and you want to figure out what we're talking about, chat to us. Go to opc.me/chat and we'll send you a link to the Spring Training event. There's a few more days. Lesley Logan 6:15  Yeah, it's really, it's been quite a fun week. I'm really thrilled with the whole thing. I mean, it's just really fun to do classes live and like, you get your Pilates habit and routine on, and then you can go back to doing it with Iike, on your own time.Brad Crowell 6:27  I mean, this is kind of a perfect episode to be talking about Spring Training because. Lesley Logan 6:31  It really is. Brad Crowell 6:32  It features all the teachers that you're that you listened to in the last episode.Lesley Logan 6:35  Yeah, if you fell in love with them. Yeah, so they're all part of it. It's really quite amazing. And what's really hilarious is Tami is actually in the house right now, so like when this episode goes out. So she wasn't on that episode, but she's currently in our house filming OPC workouts. At any rate, just the irony of all it. Then this summer, we're actually going on our Summer Tour. And it is cooking, we are getting really, really close to announce the cities and help you snide your tickets, you're going to want them, because West Coast is the location of this tour, which means smaller spaces. It just is, just how it works out. Brad Crowell 7:09  It's true. Lesley Logan 7:09  You know, it's just expensive to have bigger studios in some of these cities. So they'll be smaller spaces, which means you're gonna want to get your tickets. So, opc.me/events, means you're going to get the first updates on the tour and all that stuff. So you'll want to go to opc.me/events. Brad, why don't you chime in? Brad Crowell 7:25  Yeah, if you are taking clients for Pilates and you are trying to figure out how to get more clients, or just how to create stability in this tumultuous time, we're doing a webinar on that. It's called the Growth Accelerator Webinar, and it's free, and I want you to come join me. There's a Q&A option, and I'll be sharing three big secrets that we've learned from coaching 2500 plus businesses just like yours.Lesley Logan 7:51  It's really fun, you guys. It's really amazing. It's like, it's a way for you to understand what Agency is, but also what we believe in the Pilates industry, because there are other people out there, and it's important that you know what the values of the people who are coaching you are, because it needs to align with yours. And we firmly believe in your business working for you. You're not working for it. And so that means that the templates that we use are more formulas versus like and this is how every studio needs to look and this is exactly, this is exactly how your onboarding series goes, and this is how this goes. Brad Crowell 8:21  Yeah, here's the language that you use, no, all that does not work.Lesley Logan 8:23  No, that does not work because you all have different audiences that you want to be talking to, and you're also coming at it from either this is your full time gig, or you want it to be your full time gig, or you have kids and this is your part time gig. Like everyone comes from a different place, so it has to work for you, and that's what we pride ourselves on, is you can really mold what we coach you on to your business. Last up.Brad Crowell 8:42  Last, but not least, my absolute favorite thing in the world to do is to go to Cambodia, and we have a retreat coming up this October, go to crowsnestretreats.com. If you got all to listen to this podcast, you've heard us talk about it a million times. But isn't this the year for you? Isn't this the time? Lesley Logan 8:58  Oh, my goodness, I just wrote a whole email about why you should let us do this and I'm correct. Brad Crowell 9:02  But also like, don't you need a retreat right now? Right now. Do you need a retreat? I do. I'm ready. Lesley Logan 9:08  I actually was looking at our potential flight plans, and one of them would let us go to Vietnam, but it's kind of complicated. We're doing all these other things beforehand, so I want to go to Vietnam, and also kind of want to go to Colombia, which I know is on the other side of the world. So it's different, just different where my head is, but one of the flight plans will let us have a layover, though, to go to Botanical Gardens. Brad Crowell 9:25  Oh, in Korea? Lesley Logan 9:26  In Singapore. Brad Crowell 9:27  Oh, in Singapore. Lesley Logan 9:28  Yeah, we did the Botanical Gardens in Korea. Brad Crowell 9:29  We did do that, yeah.Lesley Logan 9:30  So, but I just pinged you and said hey, there's six hours in the daytime, and so that's an hour. And then we need about. Brad Crowell 9:37  I think we were looking at the Botanical Gardens when we were there last, right? Lesley Logan 9:39  Having dinner, yes, you pointed out, yes, it was closed because we got there close to the eighth. So I think we could do it in four hours. Brad Crowell 9:46  That'd be awesome. Lesley Logan 9:47  Yeah. So anyways, we might skip Vietnam and go there. But here's what I bragged about in my email, what you would get if you were already on our waitlist for this. But I actually wrote about, we're really fucking good at this retreat. We're so good at it. And I say this because a lot of people don't like to brag about things. A lot of people are like, oh, I'm a humble person, no, there are certain things that you do really, really well. Like our friend Vincent unapologetically goes, I make fucking great eggs. I make great eggs. I watched the master class on egg making, and I make great eggs. He's never made us eggs, but I'm just saying he brags about it, right? Like, I'm aware that he makes good eggs, and I've never even had them. What we do really well is create an amazing experience for you. You have nothing to do on this trip but get your plane ticket and let us know when you land, because we will pick you up from the airport. Well, not us, but our driver will pick you up from the airport, and it will bring you to our house. And we have a wonderful schedule that is not going to make you exhausted, but it's also going to make sure you see everything.Brad Crowell 10:38  It includes a lot of free time. You're going to have a chance to chill.Lesley Logan 10:40  Yes, but not so much free time you feel like you didn't do anything so you have to plan something. No, it is a wonderful, the cadence is amazing. I'm telling you, every single person tells us how great the schedule is because we do it well. So if you would like to literally retreat yourself, I promise you, when you are halfway across the world, it's very easy to go, you know what? I could put a pin all that chaos, because I'm over here looking at this beauty, and you can actually, just for the nervous system, it's so freaking good. I could go on forever, but go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot. Brad Crowell 11:10  Yeah, all right. Well, before we get into it, about the teachers, we had a question. Alison Pilates on YouTube asked, hey, I love the 60-minute full Reformer workout. We tried to find the links to the exercises so I could practice and get better at the pace. Where can I find them?Lesley Logan 11:26  Yeah, so you guys on YouTube, we have two full Joseph Pilates ordered workouts. We have the mat one, and we have the Reformer one, and they're both advanced. So I'm just gonna tell you right now, if it's the full order, it's super advanced, right? But at any rate, we have these on there, and it's kind of impossible to link to every single tutorial in the show notes of YouTube. I mean, I guess we can, but you can't click them, and there would be 79 exercises to click to. So actually, what you want to do is download the OPC app. It's free. You don't have to be an OPC member. Can download the app, and then you can go to the tutorials, and you can click on the Reformer, and they're all right there. They're all right there. And that way you can review the exercises you're not so familiar with, so you can learn them. And then when you take this workout again, you can be faster at it, or you can omit exercises not right for your body. That particular workout, I did all the super advanced back bends and headstands and all the things, and what I would just say is, even in my own workout, I don't do all of them. I pick two or three, but I did them all so that there is a place where this workout exists. I'm really excited that you guys are loving it, but, yeah, get the app. That's the best place. Brad Crowell 12:30  Yeah, the other thing you can do is, if you just want a list of links to the order, you can Google onlinepilatesclasses.com reformer order and a blog post will come up. We did make a post that has. Lesley Logan 12:43  That's linked. Brad Crowell 12:44  I don't know if it's exactly the same as the 60-minute YouTube video you were talking about, probably is, but. Lesley Logan 12:50  No, I can confirm. Brad Crowell 12:52  Lesley is confirming it's the same. So just Google onlinepilatesclasses.com reformer order, and you'll find the blog post that actually links directly to each one. Lesley Logan 13:02  So, thank you, Alison Pilates. I hope you enjoy that. And also, by the way, if you want to actually get better at the pace and the exercises, I highly recommend you actually just be I'm an OPC member, because at OPC, we don't do the super advanced exercises. We do more of the all level exercises, but you get to nerd out on a particular exercise and see how it works throughout the Reformer and on the mat, and we work at pace, and it's really fun. And then you can actually send me a video of you doing an exercise and I'll give you feedback on your form. There you go. Okay.Brad Crowell 13:32  Great job. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this amazing and super fun convo that Lesley had with all the OPC teachers, where actually, I got to know them better than I've ever known them. I didn't know any of these stories, so I'm really looking forward to chatting about it. Stick around. Brad Crowell 13:48  All right. Welcome back. So let's talk about Rachel Piper, Mindi Westfall, Christine Kam-Lynch, Megan Lauman and Yasmin Scholten. Only one missing was Tami-Adrian George, but we have a dedicated episode. Lesley Logan 14:01  Just for her. Brad Crowell 14:01  Just for her. Lesley Logan 14:02  She's got a lot we all talk about. Brad Crowell 14:04  She's got a lot going on. These five incredible women are part of the dedicated teachers at OPC. Each brings something unique to the mat, blending a deep love for learning with personal experiences that show how Pilates can transform your body and your life. Christine balances a full-time tech career while teaching Pilates. Mindi, known as “Bendy Mindi Pilates” on Instagram, continued Pilates after undergoing microdiscectomy, and now helps others find strength in their flexibility. Rachel a proud quote-unquote mat rat with a biotech background.Lesley Logan 14:39  I love that she's a mat rat with a biotech background. Brad Crowell 14:42  I've never even heard that term.Lesley Logan 14:43  I know, but I really think is there just a better animal? Brad Crowell 14:46  All right, well, so she has a biotech background. She still works in science and teams and all the things. She brings her love of themes and creative expression to every single class. Megan, a mother of four, based in Missouri, discover Pilates as a way to heal her body and now teaches from her home studio. And Yasmin, based in Germany, left corporate life to open a home studio in her small town where she grew up. Okay, I just want to put this out there right away, before everybody else asks, how do I become a teacher on onlinepilatesclasses.com? This is what, we get asked this all the time. Here's the truth of it. All five of these women who are on this interview were already OPC members. They were already participating. They were already changing their life with the consistency of their practice and using OPC to do it. And that's how we met them. Like I mean, there's other ways we actually met them, some of them outside of there, but that's how we got to know them. That's how it began to make sense. They were asking all these questions. They were participating, and it was a very organic opportunity, over the years to invite them to teach, because they actually care about the community. That's the thing that matters for us. Lesley Logan 15:52  Yeah, like you said, I've had, I still always have people who ask, and it's like, if you're not in the community participating, then it's really hard for us to get the community to want to take your class. And then the other thing I'll just say is, even if you're coming to join and be part of the community, we're not hiring all the time. So, yes, join because we want you to be a part of it, but join for you, not because of that goal. And then the other thing I want us to be like every single one of these girls has done eLevate, my mentorship program, so that we're all in the same page, so even though we're taking our own experiences and our own bodies and our own way of feeling the exercise in our body, but they all understand how Joseph Pilates created this stuff and gave it to Jay and his teachers taught me and all the stuff. So, are we looking for more teachers? Not this time, because we're really focused on the community and growing the community, but I would love to see you in the community, because I think why a lot of people want to be a teacher on the platform is because they want to be part of something. And I can tell you right now, even if you're not on the platform teaching it, when you're in the community, you're absolutely part of something. And that is something I'm so proud of, our members who share things. People know each other's name, even though they've never met. And people do connect in in-person events that we have, and then they hang out without us. There are eight women who take OPC classes at the same time on Wednesdays, at 8 a.m. and they're not teachers on this platform, but they are teachers. And so I just want to say OPC was never designed just for teachers, it'sdesigned for everybody, but I think that most people just want to, because they want to be part of something. You could be part of something without the commitment of figuring out your lighting and making sure your camera is straight. Brad Crowell 17:32  That is, that's the thing. Lesley Logan 17:33  And that your mic is actually working. Because sometimes you film an entire workout that is unusable. Brad Crowell 17:37  And I love, I think the thing I love the most about OPC is that once a month we do a live mat class, and after the mat class is over, everybody just hangs out and they just talk, and they get to update each other on different things about life, and it's been. Lesley Logan 17:55  We just celebrated, like a couple girls just finished their exams, so that was really fun. We know that from the hangout sessions, and then we know some of us picked up their kids from college and did spring break with them. Like it's kind of fun to know what everyone is doing. Brad Crowell 18:08  It's actually a community of people who care about each other. And we started doing it in COVID, and we just never stopped, because it's rad. Lesley Logan 18:17  Yeah. And also, to be honest, if I could record all of the OPC workouts I have to film with OPC members being there, I would do it. I would so do it. But the reality is, life happens, and we're like, oh, let's, we're moving this around. People will just be so confused. So, at any rate. But let's get into this episode. Brad Crowell 18:34  Yeah, absolutely. Lesley Logan 18:35  So, hold on. Brad Crowell 18:36  Take us away. Lesley Logan 18:37  All right. There's so many things to love, but Christine mentioned something that I really wanted to point out. She said there's something about being on the apparatus, apparatuses, the apparati, anyways, the apparatuses, the equipment that makes me feel connected inside. And I couldn't agree more, like I think it's just a fun way to get to know yourself. I think it's really difficult, because today there's this trend in the industry where everyone is over correcting all the time and cueing a lot, and so you don't always have time in your body, which is why I really appreciate how great our teachers are telling you how many reps, and giving you a rep to be by yourself, and giving you permission to change the exercise if you need to. And I think that allows you to have that connection. Brad Crowell 19:21  But what if you're doing it wrong? Lesley Logan 19:23  Oh my God, you're not gonna die. You're not gonna die. Most of the time, people doing it wrong are just doing choreography, and so they're like, this is too easy. I don't get it. That's most of it like, very rarely are people doing it so wrong they could hurt, no, no, obviously, if you're working with spring. Brad Crowell 19:38  Jay's quote here.Lesley Logan 19:40  Oh, Jay always says, "Ugly Pilates, get used to it. Dangerous Pilates, never." And so of course, we don't want you to do dangerous Pilates, but a lot of times people are doing exercises they're not ready for, that would be dangerous, so you got to be careful. But that's why I love our OPC teachers always reminding people to, that it's brave and courageous to do something else. Also, Christine mentioned that she loves taking from the other teachers, because she she actually gets different cues or different ideas or different connections from the different teachers. Because when I was picking teachers for the platform, I think it's so important, we one day, like, actually put our inseams on a list. Because we're like, well, maybe we should let all the members know what equipment we have, so that they can maybe set their equipment up, our equipment, or whatever. And then, well, should we let them know how tall we are, and then it's like, well, we're tall, but some of us have longer legs, so that we need a measure of everything. So anyways, Christine is one of our fun size teachers, and so it's really fun, because she can understand different things, even for her body, while working with the taller teachers. But I know that our members who are fun size love taking with Christine, because, like, oh, that's how Christine does it. Okay, great. So it's kind of fun. Mindi also said that she loves learning from the other teachers, but she said learning from the other teachers is one of the most important things I can do for myself and also for my own practice, because I learn something new every single time I take someone's class. And I think that that's what is so fun. Because a lot of people are like, oh, use the order. That's boring. No, it's not boring. Because if you're truly doing the workout and not wanting to be entertained, it doesn't even feel like it's something you've done before. It feels like you're having a new exploration. Because your body is different depending on what time of day you work out, depending on what you did the day before. Brad Crowell 21:17  Definitely, day to day it's different. Lesley Logan 21:18  Today, my mat class, I have my own mat workout today, slayed it. Slayed it. I was so strong. I felt so good. It's not how I always felt. So anyways, I just really appreciate that even our teachers. Brad Crowell 21:30  Hey, good job, babe. Lesley Logan 21:31  Thank you. On this Couple Appreciation.Brad Crowell 21:33  We're celebrating the national couple's day. Lesley Logan 21:35  Yes, I won't cook dinner, though, it's okay. I'll go get it. I mean, really, it would just be tater tots. I'm really good at those sweet potato ones, specifically, everyone. I really like that. With those two teachers, both mentioned how much they love learning from the other people, and I think that's what makes it so fun. Because even if you're not a teacher, just imagine how much you're going to learn. What did you love? Brad Crowell 21:57  Well, when Rachel was talking about consistency, okay, here's the thing about what Rachel was talking about that I connected to OPC, and it made me happy. When we were brainstorming OPC, we were trying to figure out, how do we compete with other platforms that have thousands and thousands of videos, and it made me think of Netflix, and it made me realize I never get to watch anything because I spent too much time trying to figure trying to figure out what to watch that by the time I'm ready to watch whatever I picked, I don't have any more time. So we said, well, how could we do that for OPC? We kept the class options small on purpose, and that really lends itself to consistency. Just being able to log in, click play and go. Another thing I thought was really interesting, and Mindi talked about this too, but Rachel only kind of realized that she's hypermobile recently, like in the last couple of years, and that, I think for me, it was blatantly obvious I've been able to bend my body like crazy. Lesley Logan 22:55  I think, but also because a lot of people think that hypermobility, you like, super hyperextend your joints and like, your elbows and your knees, but you can be hypermobile in some joints and not other joints, and it doesn't have to look extreme.Brad Crowell 23:11  Sure, you could just be hyperextending. That's still hypermobility, right, hyperextending. What's really great is that, when Rachel shared her story she was talking about everyone told her, by the time you're in your 40s, you're going to need your knees replaced, and because she was doing Pilates before going to see a doctor, now they said, hey, you've been protecting yourself by doing Pilates all these years, so you don't need a knee replacement. And that's insane. That's amazing. I love that. That's incredible. Lesley Logan 23:38  Did you know that the knee replacements are through the roof with how many people are needing today versus decades ago, and women will need them more than men. And it's actually not because of how we walk, because people in tribes don't need knee replacements. It's because we have a lack of strength balance between our hamstrings and our thighs, quads, outer hips, and so when you don't have that kind of a balance, your joints don't operate in the same way and you're demanding muscles to do support of things that need other help. And so that is why knees are not working the way. Brad Crowell 24:12  Interesting. Lesley Logan 24:12  Yeah, it's a whole thing. Do your hamstring curls on your Reformer, everyone, or if you don't have a Reformer, do your single leg kick with precision.Brad Crowell 24:20  What she said when Megan was sharing, it was really great to listen to her talk about her family, and I got really excited to hear her talk about her partner, and we know.Lesley Logan 24:30  That's because you love him. Brad Crowell 24:31  Well, his name's Adam, he's rad. But it was what I thought was so cool, was that the two are very intentional about tagging each other in tagging each other out. They've four kids, y'all. So you know, there's a lot going on all the time, yet in the chaos of just life, they still are intentional about setting aside time for themselves individually, which is when Megan gets to do her practice. And that's awesome. I think that's really great. One thing that I also really appreciated was she said she was really encouraged about how inclusive OPC is, and we're talking all forms of inclusivity here. The mix of teachers are working full time in another business, all the way to teaching Pilates full time, different sizes, shapes, bodies, color, different areas of the world, different backgrounds. Lesley Logan 25:22  And also, you know, here I am. I don't have children, so it's really easy for me to say. Brad Crowell 25:26  Right, moms know moms.Lesley Logan 25:27  You, it's really easy for me to say, be consistent. But I love that I was able to find people in our community who are also amazing teachers. Megan has four kids. Not just four kids, she's got two kids who are teenagers. And then two, well, I think a third is a teenager, one's about to be, with two special needs. Rachel talked about her son. And then Yasmin has kids. We have a few, and then Tami has a kid who, she got into college. So, like, they're all in different life paths, too. And so I really wanted. Brad Crowell 25:55  Dog moms on their runners. Lesley Logan 25:56  Yeah, single versus married. Like, I really wanted people who join OPC to see themselves in at least one teacher, if not a few teachers, like, oh, I have a full time job too. Christine and Rachel do. Not that the rest of us aren't full time guys, but, like a nine to five. There's a difference within a nine to five. Brad Crowell 26:13  They're also teaching in addition to their full time job. So, you know, so, so you're not alone. Just the diversity of all of that really does make it inclusive. There's an opportunity to see yourself in at least one of the teachers, and so we hope that you also are making that connection and enjoying that. And then when Yasmin was sharing her story, she actually talked about how damaged her body was after a career sitting at a desk, and it was causing a lot of pain for her, and she found Pilates as a, I guess, part, partly as rehab, but, but now today, that's like she's dedicated her entire life to it. She, you know, got certified, and then eventually quit her corporate job. And she said the thing that she loved the most about OPC was that it's a sense of not being alone in her home studio, which, you know, she's inherently alone, and once she can tap into OPC, she can participate in a community that's all over the world and is really supportive and encouraging. And, you know, I just love that. I think that's great. Lesley Logan 27:14  I love that she talked about construction sites. She was referring to, like, you know, we all have struggles in our bodies, and she called them construction sites. And I was like, you know, I just feel like when you learn English as a second language, there's just a better way of saying the things that you are working on it, you're putting something together, you're building something. Brad Crowell 27:30  Yeah, that was pretty cute, that was really cute.Lesley Logan 27:31  Yeah, I can't we're gonna see her in person in September.Brad Crowell 27:33  Oh, I'm very much looking forward to that. Oh, yeah, when we come to the UK. In fact, y'all, the person who is coming from the EU is Yasmin, the teacher. So come meet her. Come meet us. That'd be a lot of fun. Anyway, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into some really juicy Be It Action Items that shared from this plethora of wisdom and knowledge that we have on these OPC teachers platform. So stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 27:58  Welcome back. Let's dig into this bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted Be It Action Items from your convo with all these lovely ladies. I'm gonna jump in first here. Christine mentioned that she treats movement like snacks. And I thought that was brilliant. I thought that was such a great visual, because if you're working and you're hungry, what do you do? You reach in the drawer and you grab a Slim Jim. Maybe not Slim Jim, but you know, you grab a jerky snack.Lesley Logan 28:26  I'd go for Chomps, but they're not sponsoring this, but it's about meat. Brad Crowell 28:28  Yeah or whatever, or you grab, hopefully it's not just pure sugar, but I love the idea of treating movement like a snack. What if you just got up and did a quick lap around the office? What if you?Lesley Logan 28:39  We did a movement snack yesterday. We were kind of like head funk, and we went outside and just walked around one block. And you know what, guys, it felt great. And then you do push ups while you're waiting for your coffee. Brad Crowell 28:50  Push ups with my coffee often, if I feel sluggish, if I feel that afternoon tiredness, I will just go do a handstand against the wall, and I'm not even trying to balance. The whole goal of it is to get blood flow back into my brain. Lesley Logan 29:04  If you're thinking about your heart, it's youth, fountain of youth. Brad Crowell 29:07  Yeah. So I love this idea of thinking of it like a snack. It actually makes it even easier to go do brilliant. So, love that. Great job. Mindi talked about taking messy action. That is something that we've been saying.Lesley Logan 29:19  Something that she didn't say on this podcast, but Mindi has the entire intro memorized of the Be It Pod. So, yeah.Brad Crowell 29:25  Yeah, Mindyi's amazing, but, but taking messy action, right? How often have we talked about that here? And I love that that's something that she lives by and she thinks about all the time, because it kind of takes away the fear of whatever the thing is. It's allowed to be messy. It doesn't have to be perfect. We're not doing brain surgery here. So it doesn't have, necessarily have to be perfect the first time, right? That's not that common. So it's okay to get your feet wet, get started and figure it out as you go for most things. And I love that when it comes to movement, when it comes to Pilates, we can apply that, obviously. So, love that. Great job, Mindi. What's your biggest takeaway?Lesley Logan 30:05  Okay, we had a few. So, Rachel said don't show up for anyone else, but you. And I do love that. And I will say, if you have a hard time being selfish, then think about the problem you are going to be for the people you love, because you won't be able to go up the stairs. And then if that makes you do it, then that's great, because I really do agree with that. And I also think some people have a really hard time showing up for themselves, but I agree we all have to get to that place. You have to love yourself enough to show up for you. Megan said find a way. Find a way to prioritize self-care, movement, even just a, find a way, there's always a way. So, I agree. And then Yasmin said the root of the goal is not to be perfect in this moment and just do your workout practicing with the teacher. And I like that. So it's like, the only thing I have to work on today is being with the teacher, just moving with this class. What if you were not, like, I gotta get this teaser today, you know, so and then to find confidence in your body. And I think that's really, really sweet. And I think, you know, no one is Googling, like, how to have confidence in my body, but I do think a lot of people lack confidence in themselves. They come off very confident, and they come off very self-sufficient, and they come off as they're able to highly function and do all these amazing things, but they actually don't trust how they feel, and they don't have a mind body connection, and that's something we really want to achieve at OPC. And so here's the deal, Pilates Day is a Saturday. There's a reason why this episode is coming out this week. We wanted to celebrate this amazing holiday that's coming up that has given us an amazing career. And truly, we're doing it with the most amazing people doing this. But also we want you to do Pilates with us. A lot of you who listen and you go to an in-person studio, OPC can be the supplement. If you're only doing Reformer Pilates, you can do the mat work with us. Because if you actually want to see what, you're superly capable of. Superly capable of. Brad Crowell 31:45  I was wondering what word that was. Lesley Logan 31:47  I like it. Superly capable of. Brad Crowell 31:48  Superly capable of. Lesley Logan 31:49  It's like now there's a ring to it.Brad Crowell 31:50  Let's all be superbly capable of.Lesley Logan 31:53  Superbly capable of, you know, you need to get on the mat. It is hard, and if it's easy, you're not doing it right, which is why you have to join OPC so we can, actually, can submit a video of you doing an exercise, and I can tell you like, oh, actually, your feet go here, or this goes here. So, you guys, go to onlinepilatesclasses.com and join us. You can join us for 40 days for $40 and you get to take classes from these amazing people, and Tami, and you can be part of this amazing community. You heard him. Brad Crowell 32:20  And Lesley. Lesley Logan 32:21  And me, I'm teaching. I teach 40% of the classes. I'm like, every other week. You don't get away from me. Also, feel like I won't use it. I know me. No, we have accountability. We take classes away so you do show up for you. And you can help, you can find people in the community that will hold you accountable. You go, okay, I'm gonna do it on Tuesday who wants to do it with me? Brad Crowell 32:38  Look, I just want to say we are all doing Pilates, right? But at OPC, we actually have a process, okay, and that process includes our big three. We call them the three C's, consistency, community and connection, right? And we help you follow our process, which helps you maintain that consistency. Lesley Logan 32:59  Well, when we created this, and Brad's like I want to do this, I said, well, I love what people experience when they go take class together. I really love that there's that I've got to show up because the class is at x time and I'm going to see x people. Like, I love that, right? But if you miss that class, then you like, might go a week before you get to take class again. And I hate that. And so it's like, how can I have the accountability of an in-person class and the community of in-person, but the accessibility of a chaotic life. And so that is why every single Tuesday, a new class drops, an old class goes away, and you have access to that new class for two weeks. So there's always a couple to choose from. So if you're like, I didn't really understand that teacher, you don't have to worry about it. There's another teacher's classes up there. So it's really great. And you get to, when you say, I took class, I took Hippy Ki-Yay, people know what you're talking about, because they're all taking Hippy Ki-Yay, no one is like, oh my God, from five years ago. I just want to say this community.Brad Crowell 33:52  That's what makes this community really fun is because when people like, oh, I finally got the roll up when so and so is teaching. You know what they're talking about, because you're taking the same class as them and you're like, oh, yeah, that was the moment. So it really brings people together. And all that was by design, and we're really proud of that, because when people follow the process, they win. You win, and we want that for you. Lesley Logan 34:14  Just go to onlinepilatesclasses.com. Check it out. Sign up for the trial membership and get into the community. Send me a video.Brad Crowell 34:21  Join us for live class. Lesley Logan 34:22  You know, if you love this podcast, you're gonna love the community, I promise you that. And then the OPC app, which is for you, you can listen to this podcast, you can see tutorials, and you can communicate in the community. So Bayon is really excited for you to join us too, if you heard that from the way, way back of this house. And until next time loves, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 34:42  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 34:44  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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This community-centered episode features real stories from five OPC teachers who integrate Pilates into their lives while managing careers, parenting, and personal challenges. Lesley Logan is joined by Mindi Westfall, Rachel Piper, Christine Kam-Lynch, Megan Lauman, and Yasmin Scholten to share how Pilates helped them reclaim time, build strength, and stay grounded. Their journeys reveal just how accessible and empowering consistent movement can be. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why OPC was built to be inclusive and community-driven.How each teacher found Pilates and what made them stick with it.The unexpected ways Pilates supports parenting and mental health. Why you don't need a full hour or fancy gear to build your strength.How the OPC teachers show up as both students and leaders.Episode References/Links:Meet the OPC Teachers - https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/teachersOPC on Instagram - https://instagram.com/opc.pilatesMindi Westfall - https://instagram.com/bendymindipilatesRachel Piper - https://instagram.com/size_diverse_pilatesChristine Kam-Lynch - https://instagram.com/pilates.boundMegan Lauman - https://instagram.com/megans_pilatesYasmin Scholten - https://instagram.com/purapilates_yasminGuest Bio:This powerhouse panel of Pilates teachers—Christine Kam-Lynch, Megan Lauman, Mindi Westfall, Rachel Piper, and Yasmin Scholten—brings a vibrant mix of passion, precision, and personality to the practice. Christine, a third-generation teacher and tech program manager, fuses straight-shooting cues with contagious joy. Megan blends classical roots with modern training to inspire confidence and consistency in movement. Mindi draws from her sports and injury recovery background to help others find relief and strength through Pilates. Rachel, founder of Size Diverse Pilates, champions inclusivity and creates welcoming spaces for every body, especially those who've felt unseen. Yasmin, a former economist turned studio owner in Germany, brings a global perspective and an uplifting spirit to her classes. Collectively, they represent the evolving heart of Pilates—meeting people where they are and helping them move with purpose, pride, and playfulness. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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What I mean by inclusive is we're not expecting everybody's body to do the same thing. We're just honest, real and inclusive. It's inviting for everybody.Lesley Logan 0:10  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:53  Hey, Be It babe. You know, you might not know this. You probably hear about OPC all the time, but you probably have never like heard the people who are part of OPC, and so I wanted to take some time to share some of the OPC teachers with you. One, it's an excuse for all of us to get together. And two, more importantly, I think it's really important for us all to hear people who are like us and the journey that they went on. You probably know how important Pilates is to me. It really is how I be it till I see it every single day, like, the time that I am doing in my Pilates practice is how I can tell where I am in my life and how I'm feeling about myself and what's going on. And when I created OPC, it was so you could too. Just so we're on the same page, onlinepilatesclasses.com equals OPC. You'll hear different terms in this interview with the different teachers, and one of those is FFF, Form Feedback Fridays, and that's just us giving feedback to our members. And you'll hear about the live classes that we have, and you'll hear about the accountability in the community that we have. But the goal here is, you could hear a person who's got a job like yours, or similar to yours, or a life like yours. You know, when I created OPC, it was just me, but the goal was not always just me, and as I added teachers from our community, we have something very similar, but also we're very different, whether it was height or age or body type or lifestyle, or where we live in the world, or the journey that we've come on. I could have talked to each one of these teachers for an hour on their own. So, you know, if you like this episode and you have more questions for these teachers, let me know, and I'll bring them back on. We are missing Tami. Our schedules didn't align. It's kind of hard to get seven busy women with, I don't know six different time zones together, but we'll bring Tami on for her own special episode, of course. Together, all seven of us teachers are, there's seven including me, have over 8 or something years of teaching experience. And, so know that you are in good hands, and know that we don't ever expect you to aspire to look like us in any exercise. We only want you to be you. And I couldn't think of a better group of people to talk about being it till you see it, than just these women who had a whole life before they found Pilates, and they're living these busy lives now, and they're prioritizing that. So here is several of the OPC teachers, Mindy, Rachel, Christine, Yasmin and Megan. And I really hope you enjoy this. And if you have friends who've been thinking about Pilates and wanting to try it out or have extra accessibility, I hope that they take a look at OPC. There you go. Lesley Logan 3:42  All right, Be It babe, I am, I've got a party for you. It's an actual, true party. I'm not gonna lie. And we have a lot of different voices on here. So if you're hearing a bunch of women like talk with each other, join us in your car, at your coffee shop, on your walk, just like talk out, talk out loud with us. We'd have the conversation with us. Today, I'm joined by many of the OPC teachers, not all of the OPC teachers, and we thought it'd be really fun. One, we never can get together, all of us with our time zones. And you'll hear we're missing a brilliant voice in this conversation. So I'll have to have Tami on another day, but you'll hear the voices of these different teachers. And so we'll start off. I'm just gonna call people out for their introductions, and they're like freaking out right now, but okay, I'll tell you all who's here. We have Mindi Westfall. We have Yasmin Scholten. We have Rachel Piper. We have Megan Lauman. We have Christine Kam-Lynch and Tami-Adrian is in our hearts and our souls always. These are the amazing OPC teachers. Christine, I'm gonna call on you first. I'm so sorry, but you're, you are probably really good with a PowerPoint and so you probably have a good way of introducing yourself. Can you tell everyone a little bit about who you are, what you rock at, how did you get into Pilates?Christine Kam-Lynch 4:52  Yeah, Hi, I'm Christine Kam-Lynch, and teaching Pilates is actually a second job for me. Surprise, surprise. I am actually a technology program manager working in IT space and security. So really, techy nerd in some ways, or at least working with a lot of people that I work, I bring together. Sorry, LL, I already forgot your question.Lesley Logan 5:15  Just how you got into Pilates, but I love that you, what I'm so excited about, you guys is, if you hear her, she's like a total tech nerd, like one of the big ones. And I also say her last name wrong all the time, it's Kam-Lynch, not Cam-Lynch. So, noted. Okay, how did you get into Pilates, though? Also, I just want to say, if you're not watching the YouTube video of this, Christina is one of our fun size teachers. So I think that's important to bring up because.Christine Kam-Lynch 5:20  I'm standing right now.Lesley Logan 5:43  No, you're not. No, she's not. But maybe, how tall are you and how did you get into Pilates? Christine Kam-Lynch 5:50  I am five feet, and I practiced Pilates to stay at five feet. How did I get into Pilates? You know, when I moved to California from the East Coast, I saw a lot of people doing things, and I don't think you really see that on the East Coast. I think we're, like, all bundled up a lot because it's cold half a year that I don't think I paid attention. And so moving out here, I tried, like, everything, a lot of people do yoga out here and Pilates is just one of those looking into a studio space, like, what are all those toys in there? Like, I want to play on this playground. That's how I discovered it. And there's something about being on the apparatuses that makes me feel connected inside that I would hear words, but I don't understand the words. I'm like, okay, maybe one of these days it'll make sense and something will click. Well, the click happened on the apparatuses. And so that was my journey from like, one day a week to two days a week to three days a week to four days a week. And then my husband was like, oh my God, what is happening? I'm like, all the good things. All the good things has happened. Fast forward, I don't know, maybe 10 years later, the program was set up in a way that I could do teaching. The first part was mat and I finished thinking, I'll just teach mat, because that's about like all I can wrap my head around. And what's funny is that all of my students, my guinea pigs, who all helped me, had asked me, what's that over there in the studio? When do we get to go there? And I'm like, oh, crap, I didn't think that far ahead. I guess, I guess I need to continue the training program and so I did.Lesley Logan 6:14  I love that that's so cool. I love that their curiosity helped you go do more things because you're so good at what you do. We're gonna talk more about you, for sure. But I want to go to the other spectrum. And I can't decide if it's Mindi or Rachel. So Mindi's hair is taller than Rachel's so it will be Mindi first and then Rachel, as far as height goes on our teaching team. Mindi tell everyone who you are and what brought you into Pilates? Mindi Westfall 8:12  Yes, so I'm Mindi Westfall, and if you're out in Instagram world, I'm Bendy Mindi Pilates. So that actually tells a little bit about my Pilates journey, because I am hyper mobile and super bendy. So Pilates has helped me find my strength and my flexibility. But I actually started, oh gosh, I got on my first reformer in like 2005 because my mom was doing Pilates after she retired from teaching PE and she called me and was like, you have to try this. And I was like, well, at the time, I was living in Oregon, working at Nike, and Nike has state of the art facilities, and of course, they had a Pilates studio. So I went in and was like, alright, how do I get on one of those? Christine was like, what's that? You know. So took a couple classes there, and I was like, this is amazing. So after my Nike journey, I went back home to the St Louis area and went to the same studio my mom was going to and just really fell in love all over again. And at the time, I had some back issues, a bulging disc, and so I went through and did Pilates and tried to fix it, and unfortunately, it was only fixable with surgery. So I did a micro dissectomy and fixed the disc, and my orthopedic surgeon went to the same Pilates studio, and so he was like, okay, so you just need to go to Mary and continue your Pilates, and you'll be good to go. And I literally was out of pain and back into strengthening pretty quickly. And so that was just the journey of why Pilates was good for my body. I'm a former athlete. I'm 5'11" so I played volleyball in college. And wear and tear on my body, I really wish I would have had Pilates when I was playing, because I think it would have helped, and maybe I wouldn't have had so many things happening. But from there, I just kept doing Pilates, and then in 2019 I got my certification. So probably 2018 I'm trying to do mat in my head. But for my 40th birthday, my parents bought me Teacher Training Program. Lesley Logan 10:17  What a cool gift. Those are great. But we love your parents anyways, but those are so great. And I agree, like, I think if I got to take a stab at my running career after Pilates, and I got, not only I got five more years out of that career, I actually won races, which I never did pre-Pilates, pre-retirement. And so I thought it was pretty cool that, like, I could come out of retirement and be better than I was. So I do credit. I think everyone should do it if they're doing sports. Okay, so, Rachel Piper, is Mindi taller than you? Are you the same height? What are we?Rachel Piper 10:46  She's taller than I am. I'm 5'9".Lesley Logan 10:51  Oh, we're the same height. You feel taller to me. Okay, well, you feel taller to me. Anyways. Rachel Piper 10:57  Well, I have a presence. Lesley Logan 10:58  That's so true. It's so true. Rachel, how did you get into Pilates? Because you're like Christine, you live a whole other life during the daytime. Rachel Piper 11:07  Yeah, I feel like we, there are so many similarities between all of us. So I'm in biotech, that's my day job, and I was also a three sport athlete in high school and in college, and I'm also hyper mobile, but I didn't actually know that until about two years ago. And that's kind of a big thing for me. I went looking for yoga because my kiddo was about six years old and I was having trouble getting up off the floor. My knees hurt. Everyone I talked to said you're probably going to need new knees by the time you're 40. And let me tell you, with Pilates, now 46, and I do not need new knees. Okay, like that fixed me. But it's that consistency around Pilates that really, really helps. And like I said, it wasn't until maybe 18 months or two years ago that I actually realized that I was hyper mobile, and when I went in, they gave me a list of things like, Oh, this is what you can do for this. And you're also already doing it, so you're already sort of been fixing yourself for all these years, which I think is just a great testament to the entire Pilates method, yeah, but my journey was, I was a complete and total mat rat when I first started Pilates. Lesley Logan 12:25  Yes, but we should all take up space for the mat rats, because now no one wants to be a mat rat. Rachel Piper 12:30  I honestly don't get it, and teaching people how to teach mat is like, one of my favorite things to do. Like, honestly, I'm like, everyone should be on the mat. There are all of these opportunities for props. I know we'll talk about that later, but I was a mat rat. I did the teacher training, and I was like, I think maybe I'm just going to do this for myself, because I'm a nerd, you know, I'm in biotech. Pilates nerd as well. So I think I'm just going to do the mat teacher training and just for me, so that I understand what the heck has been going on and how this has changed my body. And then the next thing I know, I have a Reformer Tower, a Chair, like all the things, and I've made it through training. Lesley Logan 13:11  There's like, the addiction is real, and also, like, totally fine, because some people, they have other, they're like knitters, or they're into Beanie Babies or whatever, right? And we're like, no, I'm just gonna buy a piece of equipment that will last my lifetime, you know, it's a great investment. Christine Kam-Lynch 13:27  And beyond. Lesley Logan 13:28  And beyond, and beyond. It will be here. Right, right. You're totally right, Christine, because one of my girlfriends, unfortunately, her mentor passed, and all of that equipment is now living on 40 years later with other people. So there it is. Okay, more to chat with Rachel, but of course, we're gonna go to Megan, and then we'll go international to Yasmeen. So Megan, tell us everything about you.Megan Lauman 13:48  Everything? Lesley Logan 13:49  No, at least just your Pilates journey. Megan Lauman 13:51  Okay, well, I'm Megan, and I'm in the middle of the United States, in St Louis. I'm a mother of four. And so for me, it was looking for the thing that gives me some time for me so I could be the best mom I could be. And that became running like the minute my first was born. So I've been a runner for 18 years now, and so I ran and ran and ran, and that was like the time that I could breathe. And then suddenly my hips were hurting and my knees were hurting, and I was seeing the chiropractor, and I was seeing a physical therapist, and whatever I could do to feel well. And then I stumbled upon a YouTube video of mat Pilates, and also became a mat rat. So I would, became obsessed with mat, and I was like, there's no reason to go to physical therapy. I'm doing the same things here on the mat that they were having me do, only I loved it, and I felt so good. And so that became another moment for me. So added Pilates to that practice, and I did mat practice for about five years before I even knew that anything else existed. So just mat, loved i, still do, it's my favorite. Yeah. And then, yes, I did that for about five years before I looked into what else there was, and then became a Pilates instructor from there. And now my front room of the house is a Pilates studio, and yes, collect all the things. That's what we do.Lesley Logan 15:19  Sounds about right. Sounds about, you know, my living room and guest bedroom and office has Pilates equipment in now so, you know. All right, we gotta go all the way across the pond, all the way into Germany to talk to Yasmin. Yasmin, tell us who you are.Yasmin Scholten 15:35  Yeah. Hi, I'm Yasmin, and I'm from Germany. This is in Europe, center of Europe, and that's the country Joe Pilates is coming from originally, so, yeah, so, but it's not the country the Pilates is very famous, or was very famous. So I started with 18, with fitness. So I was a group fitness instructor with 18. So this was my teaching beginning, and I financed my Tourism Management study with teaching a lot.Lesley Logan 16:11  You were already in fitness, you were just teaching other fitness, and then you're like, I'm gonna go to school. Yasmin Scholten 16:17  Pilates was not really famous. I teach step aerobics, everything, shaping classes, whatever. Teached everything. And I had wonderful. Lesley Logan 16:28  Yasmin, do you know how to say left, but go right? Do you have that skill? Yasmin Scholten 16:32  Oh, I, yeah, it took a long time to learn, but yeah, I got it one day. Lesley Logan 16:39  That impresses me so much. Yasmin Scholten 16:41  Also with the music, rhythm and the music. So count for four. It took a time, but yeah, I got it. I still love to dance. So I also have this dance aerobic instructor who also introduced me to Pilates. She was also a Pilates instructor, and I asked her what do you think is the future of fitness? And she told me, a small Pilates studio with equipment. She told me I was, I don't know, 20, so it's a long time ago. So I finished my studies, and yeah, and then I tried Pilates because I had a lot of tension in neck and back because of sitting too much in my office job a lot, and I went to my first Pilates class there. I wasn't teaching anymore anything about fitness or anything else, but I went to my first class, and I really felt so good after this mat class, and I had a wonderful teacher there. And, yeah, she recommended me one day. Why not doing a training program? And she also recommended me doing I didn't know anything about classical or contemporary. I didn't know anything about it. I just loved the mat class, and she bought a Reformer one day, and I tried this, and I was totally, I don't know, I fell in love with equipment too, so just a Reformer, but it was wonderful. And then, yeah, I did the training program, and then I started to teach in her studio together with my full time job, yeah, that was hard, but it was so fun teaching. I loved it, really. And then I decided to move to my hometown, so it's a little small town near Munich, and I opened my home studio there, and I quit my job. It was really a good paid job, but I thought, yeah, that's what I want to do. And yeah, everybody told me, oh no, you are crazy. You are crazy. It's a small town. Nobody knows anything about Pilates. Lesley Logan 18:54  But I think that's sometimes the best thing, because then you get to be the one, yeah.Yasmin Scholten 18:58  And I'm still the only one in surrounding so there are no other Pilates studios. So I'm really lucky. The next one is in Munich, and yeah, they are coming and loving the equipment. So I really love the equipment too, but I'm also a mat rat. I don't know this one. Mat rat, I love it.Lesley Logan 19:18  I know I feel like we need to rename the animal, though, you guys, I don't think anybody really, I mean, you know, maybe, the mat rat, or maybe we're just giving rats a better name. I too, like, I only knew the mat for years. I thought the equipment was weird. I was like, who needs to be on that? The mat is so good. Why would we do that? It's also, like, I don't have the money. So I was like, that's so expensive. Why would anyone do that when you could just do the mat work? And then when I moved to L.A., the woman kept putting me on the Reformer, and I did long stretch for the first time, and thought I was gonna fly off the Reformer. I thought I was just gonna get shot up like a cannon. I was like, I don't like this at all. I don't feel safe. I don't think this is good. So, and it took me a really long time to, like, get on board with the equipment. Lesley Logan 20:01  Okay. So we have Mindy, Megan, myself, and Tami, and Yasmin, full time Pilates teachers, and then Rachel and Christine, you guys save the world. And then you teach Pilates on the side. Is that what's going on? Okay. And then, yeah, I like that. I mean, Christine's doing securities and tech, and you're doing biotech. So to me those are the two things that save the world right now. And then we have Yasmin, Rachel, Megan and Tami who've got the kiddos. I think Megan wins with four, because Yasmin, you have two? Yasmin Scholten 20:34  Two, yeah, two boys. Lesley Logan 20:36  Yeah. And then Rachel and Tami each have one, unless I've forgotten a child. Okay, so I just want to say that, because I know people are listening, and it's important to put in context, like, every single one of these people got into Pilates for something that they needed, and they got joy out of it, and also it made them a better person around the people that they love and care about. I mean, Christine's husband was wondering where all this stuff was coming from, but I think he's on board now. Lesley Logan 21:01  Okay, so I want to take a few of you, and you guys can chime in if I don't call you out. But like, what got you wanting to even look at OPC? Because obviously we all fell in love with in-person Pilates. And I think there's a lot of people, like, I just had someone here at the house. I was just teaching in-person. They were visiting from the Ukraine, and they're like, so you teach people on the computer, like, how do you know if they're doing it right? And I was like, well, that's kind of my job to know if you're doing it right. But I can understand that question, you know, if you don't experience online, so I'll go with Mindi, Christine and Rachel on this one. How did you kind of like stumble upon OPC? And what did you think about doing Pilates online?Mindi Westfall 21:37  I'm not the mat rat. I didn't know much about the mat until I started doing my training and then following people on Instagram, following Lesley, and she was doing an in-person class in Denver, and I was like, I'm gonna go to that. Lesley Logan 21:53  Oh, yeah, no, I bug, I like slid into your DMS. Okay, so this is how do you all wanna know how many I met? She commented on something, and it was during the time of the first ever OPC Pop Up Tour, and we were trying to sell out locations. And so I was in the habit of every comment I got I literally stalked them and looked up where they're from, and it said Denver. And so I DMed her, I said, hey, I'm teaching a class in Denver, and you should come. You guys, it was like across town on a Monday night, and she fucking did it. So that's how we met. And it was a mat class, so she had to do mat. Mindi Westfall 22:22  So at that point, I was like, okay, I need this in my life. And you guys were talking about OPC, and I was like, oh, this would be great, because I can have someone else teach me, and I had been following you and all of that. So OPC was just a way for me to get my own workout in while teaching and trying to figure this out. And I mean, I was teaching a lot in the beginning, because that's what we do. And then I was like, okay, I need this time for myself. Plus I just wanted more of your knowledge, because I didn't know a lot at that point. So the mat was really the part that I wanted the access to on OPC, because I didn't have access to that where I was, so. Lesley Logan 23:07  A lot of people don't teach mat. And so the mat at OPC is like a great supplement if you're going to a studio, yeah. Mindi Westfall 23:12  Absolutely, yup. Lesley Logan 23:14  All right, Christine, you're up. How did, how did we, like, we knew each other, though? How do we find each other?Christine Kam-Lynch 23:20  This is gonna sound really odd. Lesley Logan 23:22  How did you get into my life?Christine Kam-Lynch 23:23  I know. So, I wasn't on social media. I'm barely on it now, but my dog is on social media, and somehow you got into his feed through Profitable Pilates. Lesley Logan 23:41  Oh, it wasn't even an ad, by the way. We weren't even paying for ads. No, this is like straight up true algorithm making sure we met, yes. Christine Kam-Lynch 23:47  Yes, which timed well, because I was having my home studio at the time, and I had three questions, and I'm like, where do I go for these questions? And your poster, I don't know, I don't think reels were big back then, that's how old I am, but it was a post, and I was like, oh, she could have my answers for me. And so I slid into your DMs, because I remember asking a friend, like, how do I contact her? And she's like, oh, you DM her. And I'm like, what? So she showed me. And I was like, oh, great, thank you. And so, yeah, I wrote to you, and so you gave OPC as part of our Profitable Pilates agency membership. Lesley Logan 24:39  Oh, so we just forced you into it. Christine Kam-Lynch 24:41  Yes, basically. I was like, this is free? Okay, I would give it a try. And I was like, oh, I love this.Lesley Logan 24:49  I love it. That's so funny. We kind of forced you in, you know what? Sometimes that's the best time. All right, Rachel, how did you find OPC?Rachel Piper 24:57  I feel like it was really, really odd, if I remember correctly. There was someone on Instagram that I was supporting because she made size inclusive clothing with Pilates. Her name's Maria, and she was hosting, like an OPC leader, something. Lesley Logan 25:12  Yeah, oh, okay. That was. Okay, so in 2020, we had like community leaders, because everybody was at home and everyone was stuck, and so we would do pop ups, but live Zoom classes on the mat, but just for that person's people. It was city-based, but obviously not and so it was our first those were our first affiliates. And so she loved us. We love Maria. Shout out to The Movement Shop. And so you, you came to the the Minneapolis, Zoom class. Rachel Piper 25:42  Yeah, I came to the Zoom class. And I think I followed you on Instagram or whatever, but I didn't really know what was going on with Instagram, other than I was trying to support her. So I went, and afterwards, we chatted, and Brad was there, and I was like, oh, these people are fun. And you asked me, like, a whole bunch of questions. And it was, like, really interactive. And then after that, it was just like, we kept commenting on each other's posts and things like that, and the next thing I knew, you were asking me to be a teacher. And I was like, how did this even happen? You know what I mean? It was pretty interesting. But I love the classes, so I did sign up for OPC after that. But we have a ton of mat classes. We had a ton of that classes at my studio, but they were all 50 minutes long, and I was like, I just want a pinch of mat, but also because I could do it on my own, but if I do it on my own, then maybe I'll cheat a little here or there. And I love a good theme. I think we all know I love themes. I love writing descriptions for themes. Christine Kam-Lynch 26:40  Yeah, you have the best names, Rachel, you come up with the best names. Lesley Logan 26:44  At OPC, we know, it was like Katie Donnelly, and it might have been Christine who is like, when you hear OPC does anyone go, yeah, you know me. And we discovered that all of the members are kind of like elder millennial Gen Xers who just really love 90s hip hop. Then we, like, just really got into themes. And Rachel is definitely the go to because some people on the team don't really love naming things and coming up with themes. And it's like Rachel and Christine, the two of them will just come and Megan can just come up with themes. So just give them, give them to Mindi.Rachel Piper 27:14  I do. I send some of them to Mindi. I swear, still my favorite one that I ever came up with, and I still giggle out, is Hippy Ki-Yay Mat and Reformer. Yeah, they're, like, one of my favorite ones. Oh my gosh, we just need to, like, bring that back because. Lesley Logan 27:32  You should bring it back. Rachel Piper 27:33  It was an awesome theme. If anyone remembers the circle bands, we put the circle bands on our thighs, and we never took it off for class. And I was like, maybe don't use, like a heavy band, everyone.Christine Kam-Lynch 27:46  I did. I did not listen to you. I did and I regretted it. It's important.Lesley Logan 27:54  I do recall that. So Megan, I know how she won a year of OPC, if I recall our history together. I think the better question maybe is why did you stick around at OPC? Most people win things, and it's free, and they don't use it, but you used it. So what was it about OPC that made you go, this is my place, that I'm going to use this gift? Megan Lauman 28:18  Yeah, well, kind of similar to Mindi. I mean, when I originally found you was online with YouTube videos like teaching exercises, because I was a teacher in training, and I was like, how do I soak in more knowledge when I'm on a walk? How can I just learn while I'm walking or while I'm driving? I could just listen. And so that's how I found you. Loved the tutorials. And then one free year, I kind of like to go all in. Like, a lot of us Pilates people, we don't, like, we really just do it that's why we all have so much equipment, right? So, yeah, I went all in. I'm like, I'm not missing a class. I'm getting everything out of this that I could possibly get out of this.Lesley Logan 29:00  Like, the value of a year of OPC is, like, 1400 and something dollars. I'm telling you, you guys, Megan was at every live class she took every, now they're 45 minutes, and every 30 minutes, and how I got to know you is because of you asked all these questions and you participated in the community. I was like, yes, I'm so glad this person won, because you were the most deserving to win.Megan Lauman 29:21  The Form Feedback Fridays, I definitely took advantage of that, because the I was a new Pilates instructor, right? And so I'm looking at everyone, but have no one looking at me and so it was just such a huge bonus to have someone able to look at me and give some feedback.Lesley Logan 29:36  That's one of my favorite things that I wish people took advantage of more. And it's really funny, because I've had a couple people go, can I send my clients' videos in? And I'm like, no, because OPC is a safe place for your practice, and your practice the more curious you are, even if your body type is different than your clients, because all the teachers body types are so different, you're going to learn what you need to learn. And so the Form Feedback Fridays, you guys, it's really like, you send a video in if you're an OPC member, if you do an exercise, and then I can give feedback. And my goal is that we get so many of these that I have to hire the OPC teachers to help me. And so people are like, I don't want to take up her time, as if I don't know how to manage it, so take up my time OPC members and send it in, because it's one of the things that no other on demand platform does. No one does. Not a single fitness company out there makes sure, except for they're like, oh, put this suit on, and these little sensors will tell you you're doing it correctly or not. That's not actually how Pilates work. Your body is very different. So Megan, we love that you took full advantage of the favorite parts of OPC and all that you did. Yasmin, you've been with us for a long time, and you've been doing Pilates probably longer than all of us, maybe, maybe, maybe as long as Christine. What's your favorite part about OPC that makes you want to do it, and even wanted to teach about it? Yasmin Scholten 30:50  I would say I found you. You did this Struggle is Real with Andrea Maida and I love this, this Struggle is Real because, yeah, we all have these construction sites, I say, in our bodies, also we as a teacher, and I love to go through this. And this is the same with OPC, I would say. You gain more self-confidence in your body because you're following these teachers who also have these struggles in their bodies. And they give you approach of their method to help you with these struggles. And I really love this about OPC, and also I'm often really overwhelmed and over-stimulated with studio and being mom and family, and I don't want to scroll through hundreds of classes to find this for this day. I don't know what I need. I just want to move. Yeah. Lesley Logan 31:45  Yeah. Well, that was my goal. I used to ask people, why do you not use the membership that you have? And they were like, it's too many. It's like, Netflix. It's like, do you know for the fifth time, Brad and I are watching Schitt's Creek right now, it's not like there's not a new show out there. I know that there's a new season of White Lotus out, and I haven't even switched over because I'm still finishing the fifth round through Schitt's Creek, because you want to know what, I know where it is. I know how to find it, you know, like, so, you know, people were telling me they weren't using it, and I was like, how do I create something that people have accountability for, but also feels like you're at the studio, but doesn't have the distractions or the expenses of the studio, but also all that. So thank you for, thank you for sharing that. And we love, we love Pilates Andrea. Megan, you know, and this goes for, not that Christine and Mindi and I can't talk to what it's like to be busy, you have four kids, and you talked about how running was your thing. How do you prioritize, and you know, if you ask me, and Rachel want to jump in, as a busy mom of kids who need you, your practice, because it would be so easy for you to have an excuse to not.Megan Lauman 32:47  Oh, yeah. I should mention that two of my children have special needs as well, so there's a little bit more time consumed in them. My youngest is 12 and he has autism. He's nonverbal. He functions like an 18 month old, so he does require a lot of attention when he's around. So I do have the best partner in the world. My husband's amazing and we both believe that we need time for ourselves. And so we tag each other in. And of course, we do a lot of the work together, which makes it fun, but we do tag each other into and so having someone that knew what's important to me in making sure that I get that time is just really valuable. Yeah. So it started when my youngest was born and went with running, and it would just be like, maybe it was a nap time, and my husband was working from home, and I could get out for, you know, my first run was a mile and a half. I thought I was gonna die, right? And then I'm thinking back to when they got a little bit older, and I was doing Pilates, and I would just tell them all to work together, and I would turn on a video, and I'd find like a quiet space in the front room, which is now my Pilates studio, and my kids would be in the other room so I could hear what's going on. I knew that they were there, but I had my own space, and the kids would work together and give me, maybe it was 10 minutes, or maybe I got a whole hour that day, but I made it a priority. And you know, I'm thinking back to that time specifically. I would schedule that in in the morning, and they knew at nine o'clock, this is what mom was going to do. We set that expectation. And like I said, sometimes it was shorter than others, but scheduling and making sure I had that time for me.Lesley Logan 34:25  Yeah, thank you for sharing, because I think so many people take on that full responsibility, and maybe they don't have the same amazing partner we know, and we shout out to him. We love him. But also, I think sometimes people aren't asking for help either. We assume people will meet our needs without us verbalizing it as well. So I love that you guys tag in.Megan Lauman 34:46  You can live in this world where you're like, I don't ever get time for myself, and I realize you're not really winning any points for doing that. I have it worse than you isn't winning any points. So let's just make the best of it. And sometimes it's eight o'clock at night before I would get a workout in, but I knew I'd feel better and I'd sleep better if I did it, and sometimes just waking up early or fitting it in there in the day, but figuring out that time for you, I think, is very important. Lesley Logan 35:10  I love that. Rachel or Yasmin, do you have anything to add? Like, on how with kiddos? And I think, Yasmin, your kids are quite young still.Yasmin Scholten 35:20  Yeah, they are eight and 11 and yeah, they need mom a lot. I don't want to lie. It's sometimes hard, really, but they know since, since they are really small, this is a part of my life. So if I don't do Pilates, I get pain, I'm in bad mood, I get a lot of stress, so they know all. So I have also the best partner in the world, and he knows. Often he says, okay, go, go do your workout, and then we will do the rest. So yeah, it is really important to make yourself the priority. It's not easy. With all these we all have so much to do. The day is too short, I guess. So it is important to prioritize, because if not, I get pain, really, I get pain and a bad mood.Lesley Logan 36:17  Yeah, and I don't think people recognize that that pain and bad mood doesn't make you the mom or partner or coworker or friend or sister that you want to be. Then you end up spending time apologizing for being in a bad mood and being in pain and for what you said while you were in a bad mood and in pain, and that just wastes more time that you could spend with yourself. Yasmin Scholten 36:37  Yeah, that's true. Rachel Piper 36:38  The only thing that I have to add is I also have a 12 and a half year old, and he's also autistic, and he's got some other fun flavors going on, like ADHD, which kind of sends him flying off the walls. So finding time to just be in my own space where it's quiet is really, really important. And since I started when he was relatively young, I let him kind of play around with me, or next to me, and then from there, he just understood it's something I do. And now, as he's gotten older, for almost the last year, we've started doing an activity together. So we started taekwondo. If you look at my socials, we did rock climbing yesterday, and that was the first time I'd actually rock climb, but. Lesley Logan 37:21  So cool. Rachel Piper 37:22  He's done it like one other time, and we did it together, and he's very cool about that. He's not quite in the place where he wants to do Pilates with me, but we can do these other things together. And I just want people to know that even if it's 10 minutes or 15 minutes where you can just get on the mat, it helps you do everything else better. There's no way that I could do taekwondo the way that I do it, or just, okay, I'm just gonna scale this wall without training at all, without Pilates. Lesley Logan 37:52  Rachel, I couldn't agree more, because, like, I rock climbed with Brad a couple years ago. I was like, that'll be our hobby together. And to be honest, it's just not close enough to our house for either of us to be able to prioritize it. But, there's no way. There's not a part of me that is a rock climber, except for that I've really long legs, have me pretty strong and has flexibility in my hips. That kind of helps, but nothing else. If it wasn't for Pilates, I wouldn't know how to use my arm and my leg opposite at the same time. Yeah, for sure. But I just have this, are you the only adult in your taekwondo class? Is it all the kids? And like, is it an adult taekwondo class? Is it all the moms?Rachel Piper 38:27  No, it's actually a mix. And it's like the most inclusive place you could find, which is great. There are a ton of neurodivergent people. Lesley Logan 38:36  I love it. Rachel Piper 38:36  And we all take class together. So there are parents of adults, there's adults, there's kids that come on their own, and it's like a super safe place for Alex in this particular dojang, which has made him come out of his shell. So yesterday, he was like, leading me all over the place, like, okay, you do that one and I'll do the one right next to you for rock climbing. It's really helped him come out of his shell. cLesley Logan 38:58  I saw his smile. I saw his smile on something on your post. And I was like, I have not seen that kid smile so big. So it's really cool. Okay, this is, like, not even long enough. We could talk forever. But I want to go into two parts, Be It Action Items. We can't leave an episode without a Be It Action Item. And the thing that makes you actually take class on OPC, because here's the thing, guys, these are all teachers of OPC, except for Tami. We're missing her. They could so easily just film and take the money and run but I also know that they take each other's classes, so I would love to know why they actually do that, like what their favorite part about OPC is. So we'll go with Mindi and then Christine.Mindi Westfall 39:36  So for me, it's constantly learning, right? Learning from other teachers, I think is one of the most important things I can do for myself, teaching my clients, and then also for my own practice, because I learn something new every single time I take someone's class. So that's really important to me. So my Be It Action is actually from Lesley. So, in Agency, the business group, it's take messy action. But I also put that into my own practice, because not every single class, every single exercise, is ever going to be what you want it to be, and you have to take messy action in your own practice and be like, well, that was okay today, but I got to move or whatever it is, like, it doesn't have to be perfect, it doesn't have to feel perfect. Movement is the most important part. And just do it. And no matter what it looks like, what it feels like, at least you're moving your body.Lesley Logan 40:39  I love that. I love how you applied that. Christine, favorite thing and a Be It Action Item. Christine Kam-Lynch 40:44  Similar to Mindi. I think, I think we're all relatively students of life, cannot stop learning. So, I actually love hearing the different cues from different teachers, because sometimes that, like, lands differently depending on the day with me. And sometimes I can actually take that and apply it to, you know, a client of mine, if my words are not working, it's like osmosis or something, that I can be like, oh, how about this? Will this work? That's really fun to try and experiment with. My Be It Action Item is I started treating movement like snacks throughout the day. And I think sometimes we we get tied to a time, like I have to work out 30 minutes, or it doesn't count, or I have to work out for an hour, it doesn't count. No, any amount of minutes that you can sprinkle throughout your day counts. And my mom has really embraced this. My mom, who is a not, not a mover, not an exerciser, she's like, does this count? Like, what are you doing mom?Lesley Logan 41:52  For everyone listening, Christine just lifted her arm and lowered it down. Technically, that would be under the movement category, yes. Is it gonna help her rock climb? Probably not today.Christine Kam-Lynch 42:06  So surprisingly enough, the homework I give my mom, who I didn't think was gonna take it seriously, actually took it seriously, and she does what she can remember for that week, and she just inserts throughout the day is kind of like my new thing, Lesley, like, if I can't get a workout in, just move a little bit here and there throughout the day. You'll feel better.Lesley Logan 42:30  I love it. Yasmin, your favorite thing about OPC, why you stick around, why you take classes and your Be It Action Item? Yasmin Scholten 42:36  I would say I will steal your mantra so we don't have to be perfect. The root is the goal not to be perfect in this moment and just do your workout, practicing with the teacher, and find confidence in your body. Lesley Logan 42:57  I love that Be It Action Item. What's your favorite thing about OPC, though? Yasmin Scholten 43:00  My favorite thing is to be not alone in my studio. So I have a home studio. I'm alone and there's a community for me. I can ask questions. They are wonderful teachers I get to know and I can ask whatever struggle. No question is a bad question or silly question. Lesley Logan 43:23  I love that you brought that up, because I think a lot of people work from home today, and so they're thinking, I need to go out and find something so I'm not in my house all the time, but then they don't have the time for the parking, or they can't afford the membership, or they can't get into classes, and so they could still have a community. Yeah, I thank you for sharing that part. Megan, your OPC favorite thing and Be It Action Item.Megan Lauman 43:45  Yes, definitely love the community. Certainly love learning. That's what brought me there in the first place. But I love how inclusive it is. Sometimes also I just listen to the workouts. Maybe I watch them more than once, but I listen to them while I'm driving a car. And I learn a lot from from everyone, but I what I mean by inclusive is we're not expecting everybody's body to do the same thing. And I think sometimes, if you're just watching an online platform, you're thinking, I have to look like this person who's demonstrating it. I like how all the teachers might say, oh, that rep didn't feel very good. And let's see if it's different this time. Or I felt my hips moved they aren't supposed to move right there, or we're just honest, real and inclusive. And I really do love that. It's inviting for everybody. Be It Item. I'd say, just find a way. Maybe it would be, find a way to do the thing to take a moment for that self-care, whatever that is, if it's five minutes, and maybe it is a mat and it's five minutes on the mat or getting out for a walk around the block or whatever it is, but finding a way. Lesley Logan 44:44  I love that. I love both those things. And thank you for saying that when I set out to create OPC, of course, I always thought of myself as an inclusive person, but I also could see where I alone can't be the whole reason we're inclusive. By the way, that takes the pressure off every single person listening. You alone cannot be for everyone ever, because we all have different life experiences. So we all have blind spots to experiences we don't have. And even if you are super thoughtful and kind and welcoming, it doesn't mean that every single person can see themselves. We just had a new member who was like, I was taking a Reformer class. It was just a little faster and I'm in a larger body, and I'm not sure I'm like, set out for this. And I was like, oh my God, hold on, when is Rachel's next class on the schedule? Okay? And also, I really do mean it when I say, don't do every exercise, you know. So I love that I can refer our new members to different teachers who either have similar body types or schedules or personalities. So yeah, thank you. Rachel, your favorite thing about OPC and Be It Action Item. Rachel Piper 45:56  I actually love it when I have the Work Out With Me list. Oh and I don't even care if just one person shows up to those, but it's just like this little extra community thing in general, because Yasmin said we're very community-oriented, and this is just like another way for us to be able to do it. So I know Megan's done one and we hope to get a few more out there. But everyone's already said kind of what I'm already thinking as well. But I just love hearing what people are doing with their themes. And so sometimes I'll just listen to it, but I'll tell you what, to me there's like nothing better than turning on the camera live as one of the teachers and playing someone else's workout and letting people, if they want to, just sit there and watch me do someone else's workout. Because I will change the workout if I need to. Lesley Logan 46:50  And I love that, because it does give our members, even though we say it and we all say it in a different way, gives people a permission like oh, Lori Watson, who's an honorary teacher of OPC, she has fusions and stenosis, so she changes every workout. But I, guess what, I know that she takes every single OPC workout and she just changes it. And there isn't a workout out there where one of us is going to have to alternate something, because our bodies are so different. So I love those workout, you guys, those are really fun that when she, Rachel, started them and you know that we have OPC members at Wednesdays at 8am Mountain Time, get together every single week, and they all hit play at the same time and take the same class, and then they hang out afterwards. And I just think that our community is so cool. Okay, you have a Be It Action Item. I think I cut you off. Rachel Piper 47:36  So don't show up for anyone else but you and do what you can do and then be happy about it. That's it. Lesley Logan 47:44  The simplest and hardest thing. I think anyone can do yeah, yeah. Lifelong journey. Ladies, okay, real quick. Well, I'll tell everyone you're in, we'll go through Instagram handles so people can find you, follow you, work with you. So Mindi, what's your favorite place on Instagram hangout. Mindi Westfall 48:01  It's Bendy Mindi Pilates. Lesley Logan 48:03  I love it. Rach, with an I, Mindi with an I. Rachel, what's your Instagram handle for people? Rachel Piper 48:11  size_diverse_pilates Lesley Logan 48:15  Love it. Christine, we know you don't like to hang out, but you do, you do have a dog who does. So where can, where can you be found?Christine Kam-Lynch 48:23  No, you can find me at pilates.bound, but if you really want to follow a really cute St. Bernard, it's rammus128.Lesley Logan 48:33  Yeah, yeah, we love Rammy. Megan, your Instagram handle?Megan Lauman 48:37  Instagram is megans_pilates. Lesley Logan 48:40  Megans Pilates. Yasmin?Yasmin Scholten 48:43  It's purapilates_yasmin. Lesley Logan 48:48  Yasmin, wonderful. And you guys, everyone can follow the OPC Instagram so you can follow me, but sometimes I don't talk about Pilates at all, and people like to tell me that I should, but this is my personal it's my personal Instagram, so I'm gonna tell whatever I want, but OPC.Pilates is the Instagram handle for OPC and Tami, we miss you. We'll have you share all your favorite things with the Be It people soon, but I wanted to have everyone on because I think when you think about OPC, it's easy to like think, oh, it's me and these other teachers, but really it's all of us, right? And while I started it, it certainly was never intended to be about me. It was actually a bit more to be about the community. And so every single one of these teachers was in the community first, because I get people all the time are like, how do I teach for your platform? And I'm like, oh, are you a member? Probably not, since I don't know. And so the the teachers were in the community first. And it's about the community and our live monthly classes, our Work Out With Me, the Form Feedback Fridays, all of that is for the community, because we actually grow together. We as teachers, grow because of the questions that our members ask. The members get stronger because our classes are based around their questions, and we all benefit from the accountability and the community that exists. So I hope that if you're all intrigued by any of these ladies and why they got into Pilates and why they do OPC, I hope you join us in our favorite place. And so if you just go to onlinepilatesclasses.com you can, you can join us 40 days for $40. Please share this episode with a friend who's been wanting to do Pilates but they thought it was too expensive. OPC can be part of your Pilates journey that you do at home and you go to a studio. It could be your only way of accessing Pilates, but we always have something for you no matter what you have access to, because you could be a mat rat like most of us. Until next time everyone, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 50:35  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 51:18  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 51:23  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 51:27  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 51:34  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 51:38  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Lesley Logan honors the end of April with meaningful wins from the community and her team. She shares a bold move by Australia addressing toxic masculinity, a powerful reflection from Ainsley Walker on her eLevate journey, and the intention behind launching OPC Spring Training. From global to personal, this episode is a reminder that showing up like the person who already achieved the goal is the real win. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How Australia is addressing toxic masculinity with a new government role.How Ainsley Walker found growth rewatching her eLevate journey.What sunrise Pilates in the Maldives revealed about self-trust.How OPC Spring Training came together with intention and teamwork.Episode References/Links:Tim Richardson - https://beitpod.com/timrichardsonOPC Spring Training - https://opc.me/events If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. Happy FYF. Happy last Friday of April. Here we are. We did it. We made it. We're here. You did it. I have so many, I have a great win to share with you, and I've got wins of yours to share, and I've got something that's really inspiring, and this blew my mind. Okay, here we go. Lesley Logan 1:02  Last year, this is from hearherstories on Instagram. Last year, Victoria made history by appointing Australia's first parliamentary secretary for men's behavior change, addressing toxic masculinity and its role in rising domestic violence rates. Tim Richardson's role focuses on reshaping boys and men's attitudes towards women and tackling the harmful influence of social media. Should other countries adopt similar roles to combat gender violence and promote equality? Let us know your thoughts. Yes, yes, I'm so, so, I'm so obsessed with this, you know, like we have had some epic guests on this podcast to talk about healthy masculinity and relationships and communication. And I know, everyone listening to this, my few good men, like, you know we're not talking about you, and I just love that a country saw there's a rise in domestic violence and what's happened on social media, and they are, and they're doing something to change it. And it's not gonna change overnight. This is, like, years in the making, but like, we gotta start somewhere educating people that this is not a competition. People of a different gender or different color than you are not your competition. And people who are different than you are not making the world a worse place. They making the world a better place. And so we've gotta get out of this fear-based mindset. And I think that this is just a really cool thing that a country is doing. So way to go, Australia. You win. I wish that was happening here, but maybe it'll happen in other places, and eventually that will help here. Lesley Logan 2:33  So anyways, all right, your wins. There we go. All right, Ainsley Walker. We have a couple wins from her, and I just love I can hear her accent when I read them, so I'm going to read them to you, and this will be our wins for the last Friday in April. So I've been moving through the eLevate replays the last few days, reformer and mat. Took a few days off, enjoyed a family holiday, and I fully took a break. And I'm watching the faces on the screen, and then realize we are no longer them. I see you all move now, and you are not those people. We have grown so much in a year in so many ways, and it makes us so happy, full of gratitude and proud of us. The work we put in last year, the time we invested and continued to I looked at me on the screen and literally wanted to hug me, tell me, it's going to be okay. Better than okay, better than I could imagine. I'm so excited to work my way through these and keep growing. Thank you all, and Lesley, Happy New Year, and incredible people, thank you all for being here and supporting me and each other. I'm also so excited to meet more of you this year in Las Vegas. And she had another win later on, which is I took a full break to the beautiful Maldives, where there was a small, empty gym studio, and I did my own mat practice. Every morning at 6am I did it every day, then walked on the beach, saw the sunrise and then joined the family at breakfast. I saw every sunrise and sunset, and time seemed to be plentiful. It gave me space to reflect on what an incredible year I'd had, and none of it I knew of before. So thank you for Pilates and all it is gifting me. I embrace the rain again, and I now feel ready for this year, and I'm so grateful for this rest without fear and knowing I'm still getting paid. I start back tomorrow teaching. My first class is mat. I'm excited because my daily practice, it's in my body. And I traveled for this year, took me to Las Vegas, Philly, Morocco, Cambodia, Maldives. I completed eLevate. Clients kept coming with full classes. I got stronger, physically and mentally. Relationships mended and evolved by me setting boundaries, talking honestly and unapologetically. It was incredible. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, Ainsley, thank you. I want to share only yours today, because one, you're such a beautiful writer, but two, I've said this before. I said to people when I talk about Ansley, I love the way she sees the world, and I want her wins to be something that helps you see that you can see the world this way too. Now, of course, obviously you see things that are differently, and you can reflect differently when you're on vacation versus when you're not, but where in your day are you taking time to reflect? When are you actually thinking about who you were a year ago? I love that she went through the replays and was able to go, wow, look how far we've come. Like, when are you doing that in your life or in your business or in a relationship? When are you actually acknowledging, like, just how freaking far you've come? You're different, right? I look at pictures myself when I thought I was like, younger and hotter, and I actually can see, like, actually today, 10 years later, I am much hotter and more confident. You know, even when I'm scared, I'm more confident. And so I think it's so important that we all, like, literally, just go into your phone and pick, like, write in the date on your photos from 10 years from now, and just see where were you? How far have you come? You know. What an epic win. So thank you, Ansley, for inspiring us all. Lesley Logan 5:53  My win. Okay, so this Sunday, we are kicking off spring training, and my win is a team's win. We have, you know, we did surveys more than six months ago. We came up with the idea and tossed it around and percolated on it, and we worked on it. So many people on our team have worked on it, not only the seven OPC teachers, but also, like a good 10 people on the team, because there's people who made the images, and people did the copywriting. People did the value statements, and then I wrote the emails, and then my assistant made sure I had time in my schedule and like so we kick it off on Sunday, and I'm just so proud of the work that we did. Now, in this moment that I'm recording, I don't know if we are surpassing our goals or not. I won't know that until after May 3rd, but in this moment, on this day, when I am celebrating this, like, the team and I, we all worked together as if we had hit this goal. And I share that with you because, you know, I had a coach say on all the goals he's had in the last six years. He's missed most of them, but he's successful because he worked like a person who could meet those goals. And so what does that mean? It means like, let's say you have a goal to run a marathon and have a PR, and let's say you actually, you know, work a training program. You fuel correctly, you sleep correctly, you do all the things, and you run the marathon, but you don't PR, is that a failure? No fucking way, because you actually did the things that would have PR do. Maybe you had a headwind, right? But if you sign up for a marathon, you want a PR, and then you, like, postpone some of the long days, and you didn't do the sprint runs, and then you didn't fuel well, and of course, you didn't hit a PR, well, that would be the failure, because, and not even a failure. Just be feedback. Like, you didn't act like the runner who could PR, you didn't do the things that a runner who would PR would do, right? So what I would just say is like, please notice if you miss a goal by whatever the numbers are, but you did all the things that could have done it. That's a win, always. It's always successful. So I'm so proud of my team and all that we've done and accomplished together, and I'm so excited for the impact that Spring Training is going to make and you can join it, opc.me/events, you know, because there's replays. So it's pretty awesome. Lesley Logan 8:11  All right, your mantra. Just because I feel it, doesn't mean I need to carry it with me. Just because I feel it doesn't mean I need to carry it with me. Just because I feel it doesn't mean I need to carry it with me. What are you gonna let go of right now? You're amazing. Thank you so much. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 8:37  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 9:18  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 9:23  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 9:28  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 9:35  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 9:38  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap!  Happy Thursday! Get ready for an all access BTS into the Valley with Executive Producer Alex Baskin. What really happened between Brittany and Jax? How do producers go about handling sensitive and dark storylines? All this, and more are answered! Plus, Nick and Natalie spill the tea on Hulu's Get Real event, we get back into Mormon Wives mode, discuss George Clooney's new hair and lack of fighting with Amal, and more! Make sure to tune in!  “We're attracted to originals.” Subscribe to The ENVY Media Newsletter Today: https://www.viallfiles.com/newsletter  OUT NOW! Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff. Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@theviallfiles.com to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick's Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to asknick@theviallfiles.com with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on this podcast please email: ad-sales@libsyn.com or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/theviallfiles   THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Sundays For Dogs - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://sundaysfordogs.com/viall or use code VIALL at checkout. Beekeeper's Natural  - Today, Beekeeper's Naturals is offering you an exclusive offer. Go to https://beekeepersnaturals.com/viall or enter code VIALL to get 20% off your order. Or enter code VIALL. Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro (00:26) - Hulu Get Real (05:15) - Household Headlines (12:24) - Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Trailer (19:00) - Bachelor In Paradise News (21:48) - The Valley Initial Thoughts (28:29) - Alex Baskin Joins (29:37) - RHOBH (36:32) - Denise Richards and Her Wild Things (38:36) - Vanderpump Revamp (39:29) - Ally Lewber (47:02) - Scandoval (49:33) - The Valley with Alex (01:00:52) - RHOC (01:01:56) - Producing BTS Questions (01:10:38) - The Valley Final Notes (01:18:32) - Chipotle  (01:20:35) - Meredith  (01:23:54) - Exchanging Photos (01:24:34) - The Yacht (01:25:58) - Outro Episode Socials:  @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @thealexbaskin @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips @the_mare_bare @leahgsilberstein @dereklanerussell   

In this recap episode, Lesley and Brad break down Lesley's conversation with intuitive eating coach Sabrina Magnan. They explore how disordered eating habits form, the power of self-awareness, and the role of travel and journaling in identity shifts. Whether you're looking to reconnect with your hunger cues or take small, consistent steps toward your future goals, this recap offers valuable insights and practical takeaways. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:What intuitive eating means and why we lose it over time.The effect of diet culture on how we interpret hunger and fullness.How travel can shift perspectives on food, body image, and lifestyle.Why 80% of your thoughts might be stuck on repeat and how to change them.The power of journaling and visioning your ideal life.How to embody your future self through everyday choices.Episode References/Links:UK Mullet Tour Waitlist - https://opc.me/ukSpring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comFast Like A Girl by Dr. Mindy Pelz - https://a.co/d/8DHMdDN If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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The fact that people have to tell us sometimes you think you're hungry when you just need a drink of water, the fact we have to be told this because we have become so disconnected from our heads to our bodies about when we are actually hungry, or if you're hungry, your body is saying hi, I don't have enough fuel to do the thing you asked me to do. So I really just thought it was really cool. Lesley Logan 0:26  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:09  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the intentional convo I have with Sabrina Magnan in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, go listen to it and then listen to this one, or stick around and then go listen to that one, because that's just like how podcast apps can work. You guys, today is April 24th 2025 it's World Immunization Week. I feel a pedestal from Brad coming in. World world of music. You guys, we're using our platform how we can. Brad Crowell 1:41  Maybe.Lesley Logan 1:43  World Immunization Week is an annual event observed in the last week of April. Aims to educate the public about why vaccines are necessary for the health of millions of people around the world. For numerous reasons, children and adults miss out on essential vaccines, which increases the risk of contracting various preventable diseases such as polio, measles and smallpox. The purpose of this week is to identify challenges and gain access to vaccines and overcome those barriers for the benefit the global populations. People now realize that unless everyone is safe from disease, no one is truly immune. Well, you guys were really fucking this up. So obviously, if you listen to this, you probably have done all your children's and your MMRs, but please check in if you are eligible for the boosters for measles, because depending on when you got your shots, you might have only gotten one shot, so you may actually need to do additional one depending on how around people you are, because this is like a huge thing. When I was in L.A., there was like a freaking whooping cough outbreak amongst the private school, and my client had been in my studio three times after her kid had whooping cough. Didn't seem to think to tell me, and I was like, you're exposing me to whooping cough. So there's just different things we have to be aware of. Also, if you are of a certain age, you might have to get your shingles vaccine. You don't want to actually get shingles. I promise you, there's like nerve damage that happens. It's very painful. So please educate yourself. If you come at me because you think it's causing things that have scientifically been disproven multiple times, I will not respond to you. I don't need to, but I do think you should go and educate yourself and make decisions that are right for you and those around you. Brad Crowell 3:20  Yeah, in Texas, we have a measles outbreak right now in the United States. There's a whole lot of people trying to figure that out. And the reality is, the people who are getting measles never got vaccine. They never got the vaccine, but because of it now it's one of the most contagious diseases ever, and because of it now it's putting people who may have gotten it 40, 50 years ago at risk because it, meaning the vaccine, 40, 50 years ago, at risk because science has changed over time. Things have changed and shifted and grown. I was listening to a podcast where they interviewed a woman who's, I can't remember, but she was a doctor at the NIH, and she was basically saying that what they found is that before 1968 they recommended to go get a measles booster. From 1968 to 1989 where we were born, Lesley and I were born, it was medicine generally said go get one dose of the vaccine, but you are, now they're saying you should have at least two. So I contacted my mom. Somehow I actually had two doses of the vaccine, right? But, otherwise.Lesley Logan 3:20  Typically, you would have gotten the one at, one as a kid and then one, you're. Brad Crowell 4:01  In the 90s, like 10 years later.Lesley Logan 4:08  Yes and then you would have gotten one when you went to school. That's how it went. Brad Crowell 4:21  That's what it was. So I got one when I was born, and then I got one before I went to elementary school.Lesley Logan 4:35  Yes, so go get your tetanus. When? If you don't remember, it's probably (inaudible). Brad Crowell 4:39  Go get a tetanus shot. You don't want to deal with that.Lesley Logan 4:42  No, they're preventable, you know. Brad Crowell 4:44  And honestly, all the way down to just the flu shot. Lesley Logan 4:47  Well, you know, here's the thing, here's, here's, if you're like, I'm against all these things. So Brad's brother and sister in law, so they had a third baby, and the third baby was born premature, and we were the only ones in the family who got to go see this little cutie pie because we had a flu shot. Like, it's not about you, it's about like premature babies and little kids and people with immune suppressed issues, that's why you get it, because you might survive it, but the person next to you who's dealing with childhood cancer won't. So think about other people. Brad Crowell 5:21  Yep, that's all. Lesley Logan 5:23  Sorry. Well, I guess I joined on the soapbox. Okay, I'm back from Pilates Anytime filming. We had so much fun. Those classes will come out in the fall. If you're not a Pilates Anytime, member, you can use L Logan for a 30-day trial. I have a ton of classes on there. You can just search out all of mine. They're really, really fun. And we have announced and space is filling up like crazy, because it's a very limited amount of people who can join us on the Mullet Tour in the U.K. So yes, we are coming to Leeds and Essex in September, and we are doing a Mullet Tour, which means business in the front, Pilates in the back. So business workshops in the morning, Pilates classes and workshops in the afternoon. It's gonna be a lot of fun. Brad Crowell 6:04  It's gonna be a blast. So go to opc.me/uk to get more information. We're past the waitlist at this point. Go find out the deets, opc.me/uk, and then at the end of the month, we're getting really close here, this is the 24th today, so. Lesley Logan 6:18  Three days, so you're just gonna go to. Brad Crowell 6:21  opc.me/events, opc.me/events Come join us for spring training. Literally, in just a few days, it kicks off. It's going to be 10 events over seven days on all four pieces of equipment. If you have a mat only, there's a mat only ticket. Otherwise, you come get the equipment ticket.Lesley Logan 6:35  It's really inexpensive and they're 30-minute classes with a 30-minute Q&A. So it's not just workouts. It's like, actually hangout sessions. Brad Crowell 6:43  Yeah, community, great questions.Lesley Logan 6:44  Asking the questions, where you actually (inaudible) with. All the OPC teachers and myself, I'm teaching like four of the classes, I think. It's just going to be a ton of fun. And we have team uniforms, guys, like baseball jerseys. We are ready to go. The dog has a uniform. He's a home rough. He's a bat boy, bat dog. He's all the things. Brad got a jersey. It's, yes, it's pink. It looks so cute. Brad Crowell 6:45  It's very pink. Lesley Logan 6:47  So go to opc.me/events to snag your spot before we kick off. There are replays on the classes who can't join live and what else, Brad?Brad Crowell 7:18  Yeah, so come join me for a free webinar. If you are taking clients, taking payments from clients, we want to help you. Want to support you. We want to share with you what we've learned over the last seven years of coaching people, over the last 10 years of doing it ourselves, we've literally had to be in the trenches doing the same exact things you're doing to grow your business, to meet new clients. How do I introduce myself? What am I supposed to say? I get tongue-tied. It's awkward. I feel like a salesperson. All these kinds of things. We were in the same exact position that you were in now. And because we realized that we had to get better at it, was we went out and we learned. We started studying with coaches for, I don't know, six years in a row, we hired coaches to help us with sales, copy, email writing. How do we, you know, say things, what should our website be, do, have? How do we become more known in our community? And we started Agency to share these things with you, right? And then, what that's allowed us to do is to then be alongside more than 2500 businesses just like yours over the past seven years, helping everyone solve these problems, and we can work with you to solve the same things. How do I get new clients? How do I actually fire a client that I hate? I need to fire the teacher for me. I really need help with my admin, all these kinds of things, insurance, etc, etc, etc. Anyway, free webinar. I want you to come join me for it. It's called the growth accelerator. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. And then finally. Lesley Logan 7:27  We're going to Cambodia. We want you to come with us. Why haven't you signed up? This is your reminder. Go to crowsnestretreats.com and snag your spot. And let's go. Let's go to Siem Reap. I think it's like another thing I've been thinking about. You might be going why are we going to Cambodia? So if you've heard the town Siem Reap. Brad Crowell 9:05  Siem Reap. Lesley Logan 9:05  Siem Reap, that's where all the temples are.Brad Crowell 9:07  The Temples of Angkor. Angkor, A-N-G-K-O-R. Angkor was the, one of the largest civilizations, landmass wise, it was actually they controlled what we now consider Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia and all the way up through parts of Thailand. They would go to war with the Thai. They would go to war with India. They would go to war with all these, these places, right? It was a massive, massive civilization, and they built over 1000 major structures, and they're mostly temples. And then they were eaten by the jungle, and a thousand years later, they were, quote-unquote, rediscovered. And they are stunning, y'all, it's mind-blowingly cool.Lesley Logan 9:46  And if you go on some random cruise, they're gonna take you to three and we're gonna take you to way more than three, and we're gonna do Pilates, we're gonna do a Lotus Farm, and we're gonna go to a water village, and you're just going to learn so much and be so awed, like one in wonderment. Yeah, you'll be in wonderment, and it's gonna help you.Brad Crowell 10:04  You'll just be so odd, it's just gonna be so weird. Lesley Logan 10:06  Yeah, you mean awed. Anyways, come, crowsnestretreats.com.Brad Crowell 10:11  Yeah, if you want to stay an extra day or two, we love to go to a waterfall. We love to go see elephants.Lesley Logan 10:16  The waterfall and the elephants are on the extra day. Brad Crowell 10:18  Yeah, those are extra afterwards, because they're longer day trips and we can't fit them into the full retreat so.Lesley Logan 10:23  They're like full on days. Brad Crowell 10:24  Yeah, so come hang, it's gonna be mind-blowing. Go to crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com. But before we go any further, we did have an audience question this week. EliyaManson-p4k on YouTube says, "Fasting changed my life. It's my superpower! I've noticed that when I fast, the more I move, the better I feel. Plus, my motivation to get up and be active is higher. Does anyone else have a similar effect, or is it different in some way?" It's a very interesting comment.Lesley Logan 10:53  Yeah. So this is on a video we did a live with Noor from Jade Pilates Studio, about, about Ramadan, and so it was like, can you do Pilates during Ramadan? And it was such a really, was a really cool conversation. I've had nothing but great compliments and comments of people being so excited to learn about this. So thank you, Noor. I'm not a fasting expert, expert, and also the way they fast for Ramadan is very different than a fasting program. So Mindy Pelz, P-E-L-Z. Mindy Pelz, if any of you know her email, please help a sister out. Mindy Pelz, she wrote the book Fast Like A Girl, and it is super, super informative about how women specifically can and should fast based on their cycle. So that to Eliya, of course, you're feeling that, especially if you're fasting in the way that benefits your hormone cycle. She has tons and tons and tons and tons of research about fasting, what it can do for us. It's actually incredibly healing. So it doesn't surprise me that you're getting faster at things, you're moving better. Brad Crowell 10:55  But you've also been practicing fasting. Lesley Logan 10:59  Yeah. I mean, I'm gonna, I've kind of stopped. It's Cambodia, it's really hard. Tour was actually not the problem. Tour is easy. Cambodia is hard because you kind of go to bed early, and you wake up early, and then we eat on the schedule. So it's really hard for me to fast when the schedule of the group is different than what mine is. Brad Crowell 12:21  That's fair. Lesley Logan 12:22  But now that we're back, I'm getting back into it. And so by the time you're hearing this, yes, I'm back to fasting. So what I do is, if you look at how she sets it up, where I am in my cycle, Mindy Pelz, depending on where you are in your cycle, if you have one, you don't want to fast too long during a progesterone season, it will stress you out. So 13 hours, 14 hours is kind of the max on those days. But then there's other days of your cycle where you, like, 15 to 17 or 18 hours is really effective and like repair and helping. If you have any pre-diabetic stuff, there's this really great stuff. I don't want to take away her science. Go read her book. It's so good. You can listen to an Audible. It's really great. So I hope that helps Eliya and gives you more information to like even take what you're doing up another level.Brad Crowell 13:09  Love it. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we're going to dig into a really interesting conversation about our relationship with food with Sabrina Magnan as soon as we are back. Brad Crowell 13:21  All right, let's talk about Sabrina Magnon. Sabrina is an intuitive eating and food freedom coach who helps women break free from disordered eating, binge eating and food obsession. After struggling with her own body image and restrictive eating, she discovered the power of self-awareness and mindset shifts. Now she's on a mission to help others let go of food rules and build a healthy relationship with their own bodies. And she shared a lot about her story. I think my favorite part of her story is that her life-altering epiphany moment happened due to travel. And I love that. I think it's great.Lesley Logan 13:58  Yeah, that's why we love travel. I think travel teaches you so much about yourself and and really forces you to get a little bit more flexible around things. Brad Crowell 14:07  So if you listen to the episode, her story is that she went to Italy in her teens. And in her teens is when she was literally going down the path of eating disorders, because she had been a really competitive athlete and then stopped, and when she stopped, she was terrified that she was going to put on weight as a teenager, and she went to Italy. And she said, in Italy, nobody went to the gym for incessantly, no one was freaking out counting calories. Lesley Logan 14:34  Remember in 2020, when they were trying to get everyone to stay home. And the Italian, like the Italian leaders, were like, why is everyone so like now training for a marathon? What is going on? There are these running grannies? What are you doing? Because it's like not a thing.Brad Crowell 14:47  What was like the mind-blowing shift for her was seeing another culture and how they approach food, how they treated it, and how they enjoyed food, where she never enjoyed her food, she was like so intense about it all the time, and that changed her world. So I love that. I think it's amazing.Lesley Logan 15:09  Well, I think even, like in Cambodia, my dad gets so mad because they're like, constantly feeding him, and he's like, they're just bringing more food. They just brought more food. I just ate. I just ate. And he would always lose 10 pounds. The reason is, is yes, it's more outdoor lifestyle. So you're like, you move around a bit more, but when you eat there, you're not on your phone, and the portions are not huge. Of course, you can have seconds or thirds if you want to, but you are enjoying the taste. The food is very flavorful. There's also all these different things that you're going to dip in, and you use your hands. And so I think that's what makes it interesting when you're here in the States or other Western cultures, where the media has made women think that the smaller you are, be obsessed with being smaller, because then you're too busy trying to be smaller to realize we're taking your rights away, like that kind of thing, that's very much what it is, or enjoying your food. And so that leads into what I loved is that she said, we're born knowing how to eat intuitively. Brad Crowell 15:23  Right. Lesley Logan 15:23  And we lose this over time. So when you're a little kid, you're like, eating, and then you're like, done. And they're like, no, come finish your food. And actually the kid is full, they like, I'm done here, you know? And so what happens is the diet culture and the way things are going, it changes our ability to listen to our body and understand when am I hungry? The fact that people have to tell us sometimes you think you're hungry when you just need a drink of water. The fact we have to be told this because we have become so disconnected from our heads to our bodies about when we are actually hungry. And so I really enjoyed that she has taken on so much research and learning understanding about trusting our bodies so we're not restricting, we're not calorie-counting, we're not ignoring hunger. If you're hungry, your body is saying, hi, I don't have enough.Brad Crowell 16:44  Fuel.Lesley Logan 16:44  To do the thing you asked me to do. So I really just thought it was really cool and so true. Intuitive eating means blending what your body is telling you along with your emotions and your rational thought.Brad Crowell 16:54  Yeah. I mean, it was really interesting to listen to how her story shaped where she is today. She also shared that you have to be intentional about the life that you want, otherwise you end up repeating the same patterns. And this is definitely something that we've talked about on the pod before. Lesley usually talks about it when it comes to dating, have you to learn from the person you dated. You end up dating the same person over and over and over again until you learn the thing that you're supposed to learn before you can move on to the next person, right? So in line with that, she said, and instead of, hey, just letting life happen to me, I started getting intentional about, okay, what do I actually want to create with my life now that I've had this change in my perspective? She said, most of our thoughts are on repeat. I don't really understand the science, but the two of you had a really funny back and forth about like, how do we know that 80% of our thoughts are the same today as yesterday? How do we know that we have 60,000 thoughts a day? I don't know how to actually measure that.Lesley Logan 17:47  Oh, they already did that, did that, did that, did that, did that, did that. What does a person watch? I don't understand. But anyways. Brad Crowell 17:56  And unfortunately, most of these thoughts are negative, right? Self-deprecation. And it's easy to get stuck in that negativity cycle. She asked herself, hey, if I could create the life that I want, if it had a blank slate, if the rules didn't apply, and I could just, like, start over and be there, what would my life look like? What would it be for me? Right? And she said, this is when she started to journal. She started to pull things to like, write things down. And she said, hey, every day, this is the kind of stuff where you're starting to notice, I want my life to be like this. Add that to the list, right? And then it'll help you see what you actually want to be doing, where you actually want to be going. And she said, living into that vision helped her see small, tangible changes begin to take shape in her life, so that she could be eventually where she wants to be going. And, you know, I love that. I think this is like just another way of saying, you know, the small, tiny habits, small steps forward are going to help you get there. And also, I've heard this 100 times, but what would the decision be if I wanted to be, you know, a successful business owner, laundromat, if I wanted to be a successful laundromat owner and I had a decision to make, what would a successful laundromat owner's decision be? I should make that decision, right? So you're putting yourself in the place that you want to be before you then make the decision, because you're going to look at it through a different lens than you might, your gut might actually say, and so you, this is really helpful. It's a great way to kind of see life through a different perspective.Lesley Logan 19:27  I mean, I just think, first of all, she was super, super sweet. And I also remember she's like, being it until she sees it to be a puppy owner. So I really hope she and her partner, by this time, have gotten a dog. No pressure. Brad Crowell 19:37  Yeah, no pressure. Lesley Logan 19:38  But I think you're ready.Brad Crowell 19:41  No pressure, Sabrina. All right. Well, hey, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig it into some action items the Be It Action Items that she shared, you're not going to want to miss it. Be right back. Brad Crowell 19:52  Welcome back. All right. Let's dig into those Be It Action Items that we got from Sabrina Magnan. What bold, what executable, what intrinsic and what targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Sabrina? She started talking about manifesting, right? And we were just kind of talking about parts of this, like future-casting, how we make decisions as the person that we will want to be one day. This is also the be it till you see it, you know, stuff. She said, hey, you've got to be really clear on what it is that you want. You need to define your goal, right? So whether that's a career milestone, a lifestyle change, or even a pet, that's what she's going after. She said, you have to embody the mindset and actions of the person who's achieved it. She believes that a lot of people think once they hit that goal, then I will feel this thing, but that is so backwards. And I laughed when she said, it's not like your brain changes when you achieve the thing, right? Your brain is going to be the same brain now as it is when you achieve the thing, unless you're intentionally trying to change your brain now. Lesley Logan 20:53  And also, if you haven't really set yourself up, like, if you're someone who has, like, a fear of making decisions, and then you somehow get someone to believe in your laundromat business, and they're like, here are the keys to your laundromat business, but you didn't ready yourself as a person who makes decisions, good fucking luck keeping your laundromat business, because you have to have done that. So you got to change the brain to be ready for the thing you want to have when it comes. Brad Crowell 21:16  You have to be ready to make decisions now before you get those keys right? Instead of waiting for the success to change, you become the version of yourself who attracts it today. Ask yourself, what does this person who already has achieved this thing do every day, and then make space for it now. Start taking those actions and make yourself ready to receive those wins now, you know. What about you? Lesley Logan 21:39  This is really cool, because this is where, if you're like, okay, guys, we've heard that one before. I think you have to hear things multiple times before you make a decision on making a change, right? Brad Crowell 21:47  Like 17? Lesley Logan 21:47  Like, at least. So this one is really unique. We have not heard this one before, which is, take a piece of paper and do two columns. So a left side, you put the old me, and on the right side, you're gonna put the future me. And on the old me, this is where you can list up the thoughts and habits and emotions you want to leave behind. So all that negative self-talk, I'm a failure, I'm not good enough. And then on the right side, all the things that you want to have in the future, the future you like, how you think and emotions you have. And then you could have this ability to interrupt the pattern, because now you get to act like, oh, these are all the things that I want to embody. So this is what I need to be acting as if, participating, going back to her other Be It Action Items. So I really love this, because one of my clients, shout out to Meredith, I said, hey, babe, we were supposed to, she only has a session on Tuesdays, and we're driving back from Colorado, and I was supposed to text her when we're getting back so I could teach her. And we got back a little later than we expected. And so I, like, was like, hey, I, the only time I have this week is 8 a.m. tomorrow, which Meredith doesn't, is not a morning person. And she goes, great, I'll see you then. And I was like, okay, so I saw her a.m., she was on time. She was ready to go. And I said, wow, this is really early for you. She's like, well, I am a healthy person. I'm a person who makes healthy decisions, and a healthy person would work out at 8am so this is why we're here. But I really liked it. It's like she did the old her would never have said yes to that. Brad Crowell 23:14  Never. Lesley Logan 23:15  The old her is doing the 9:15 and that's early. And the new her is like, nope, nope. I'm gonna do it 8 a.m. I'm up. I'm gonna work out. I'm gonna do it. So I just think that this is a really cool thing. Two sides paper really helps you on that goal setting and getting clear on what you want and who you want to be. Sabrina, I can't wait to hear what your dog's name is. Just putting that out there. Lesley Logan 23:34  Y'all, how are you going to use these tips in your life? What was your favorite part or your takeaways? Thank you also to those who've been leaving amazing reviews of the Be It Podcast, I know they don't make it easy to leave reviews. You have to go find how to do it somewhere on your phone, in a tiny print, and all of you are over 40, so you can't read it. I get it, but thank you for going through the efforts of doing it. It means the world to us. I love reading it. My team literally shows me every single review. Brad Crowell 24:00  Every single one, y'all. Lesley Logan 24:01  Not a single one. Brad Crowell 24:02  We celebrate every single one. So thank you for leaving those. Lesley Logan 24:05  And if you haven't, yet. Brad Crowell 24:06  If you haven't. Lesley Logan 24:07  This is your reminder. This is us guilting you, yeah, don't take that joy away from me. 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In this raw and powerful episode, Lesley sits down with food freedom coach Sabrina Magnan to unpack the messy, beautiful work of shifting perfectionism, intuitive eating, and manifesting a life aligned with your values. From a disordered past shaped by competitive sports and diet culture, Sabrina opens up about the turning point that changed everything—her summer in Italy. Immersed in a culture that celebrated food, presence, and connection, she began to release the rigid beliefs she held around food and her body—an inspiring journey that will shift your mindset about diet. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How disordered eating distorted her sense of identity and self-worth.What intuitive eating really means and why it's about more than hunger cues.How journaling and scripting became pivotal tools in her personal growth.What it means to rewire your self-talk with a two-column journaling exercise.Why supporting your nervous system makes mindset shifts feel sustainable.Episode References/Links:Live Unrestricted Podcast - https://sabrinamagnan.comSabrina Magnan Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sabrina.magnan.healthFood Freedom Academy - https://sabrinamagnan.com/ffaGuest Bio:Sabrina Magnan is a food freedom and intuitive eating coach who helps women heal their relationship with food and their bodies. A former synchronized swimmer, Sabrina struggled with perfectionism and disordered eating before discovering intuitive eating and mindset work as tools for true transformation. Her turning point came during a summer in Italy, where she began to let go of food rules and embrace self-trust. Now, through her coaching program and podcast Live Unrestricted, she guides others to release food guilt, rewire negative self-talk, and shift long-held beliefs using practical tools like journaling, scripting, and nervous system support. Her mission is to help women feel safe in their bodies and live with more presence, joy, and freedom. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I had a hard time even knowing who I really am, what my values are, what do I want to do with my life? Because I thought that if I look a certain way, like my entire life revolved around if I can look a certain way, and if I can be perfect around food and perfect around exercise, that I'm finally going to feel like I'm enough. Lesley Logan 0:32  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:15  Hello, Be It babe. Welcome back to another interview for the Be It Till You See It podcast. I'm just loving I get to talk to so many amazing people because you listen to this podcast. So I just want to say thanks, because it's really fun for me. I'm assuming it's fun for you because you're listening. Today, our guest is Sabrina Magnan and she is so fun. We have a really great conversation that kind of goes through how she got to doing what she's doing, which is like focusing on helping others with emotional eating, but also we talk about manifesting, and like how she manifested the person she's with now, and what she's manifesting next, and so it's just a really fun conversation that I think we can all resonate with in different aspects. And also, if emotional eating is something that you are understanding about yourself. I do think that there's going to be some really great points in here that help you feel like you're not alone. And if you're not, then get all the manifestation out of this episode that you want. Here is Sabrina. Lesley Logan 2:13  All right, Be It babe, this is going to be fun because I'm just going to come out from something great. Sabrina and I have already talked today, so if you hear us talk about like we've talked about this morning, it's just because I was already on her podcast. So Sabrina Magnan is our guest today. She is an incredible human and what I can't wait for us to talk about, we're going to get into some self-talk. It's about self-chatter and mindset stuff. But Sabrina, before we get into all that, can you tell everyone who you are and maybe how you started to rock at all of these stuff?Sabrina Magnan 2:39  Yeah, absolutely. So thanks for having me. I'm so excited to be here. And like you said, I am Sabrina Magnan, and I'm an intuitive eating and food freedom coach for women who struggle with the relationship with food, disordered eating, binge eating, food obsession, body image, you know, a lifetime of yo-yo dieting. And I help them heal their relationship with food and their bodies, so that they can free their mental space, their energy, their time, to focus on being their authentic selves and creating the life of their dreams. Lesley Logan 3:12  Thank you for even bringing all that up. I think, like, the thing about being it until you see it is like acting as if you're the person that you want to be, right? And a lot of times, what keeps us from being that person is the stuff that we're currently doing that's kind of holding us back, and it's really a distraction in our lives, and it can be really hard. I do want to get into real briefly, because you mentioned intuitive eating, I feel like people, that requires having intuition. So for someone who might not know what that is, can we just kind of go over that briefly? Sabrina Magnan 3:40  Yeah, absolutely. So in the simplest terms, it's the way that we are all born to eat. So if you think about toddlers, they eat when they're hungry. They stop when they're full, they turn their head, they push their plate. They're turned away from the boob when they've had enough food. And as we get older, and we get all these messages around what we should or shouldn't be eating, and how it might affect our weight, and we get all of this fear around food, then that can really start to disconnect us from our bodies. And so we're no longer listening to what our bodies are telling us. We're listening to what other people tell us that we should be doing. We start calorie counting or restricting or not eating when we're hungry and then overeating later. So being an intuitive eater is blending what your body is telling you along with your emotions and your rational thought. Lesley Logan 4:30  I love that, and also like, yeah, when we're kids, we do that already, you know, I was telling somebody that like I started just shortening the window, like I was following, like, Mindy Pelz and kind of shortened the window. And I said, I'm just, I'm dabbling, like, I'm just, I'm dabbling in it. Like, this is not a, I cannot follow anything like to a tee, just gonna dabble in it. And she was like, you know what's so funny is like, our kids go 12 hours, like, they eat dinner at seven, and we don't feed them breakfast till seven. So like, why as an adult, is it so hard? And it's because, like, life and all these things, and we get all these mixed messages, and it can be really crazy. And then there's, you know, the the chatter in between, all the different things we say that are sometimes from us and sometimes from other people. Like, what's your experience with self-talk? And like, the things that we say and how that affects us, from intuitive eating or just like, having, like a healthy relationship with ourselves and body image? Sabrina Magnan 5:25  Yeah, so I think a good way to lead into that conversation is how I got to where I am today, because I was a high level synchronized swimmer when I was younger, so. Lesley Logan 5:36  Were you like the girls? I also saw that, we're getting off topic, but I just recently saw during the Olympics how you get your hair to like, it's like, weird. It's like plastic. It's like weird rubber stuff to get so your hair still looks like hair, but it also is like, anyways, go ahead. Sabrina Magnan 5:53  It's terrible. It's really like, it's that gelatin mix that you make food with, and you mix it in with, like, boiling hot water, and you put that into your hair, and it is a absolute pain to take out of your hair. It takes hours. So, I was a synchronized swimmer for eight years of my life, and it's a sport that is very highly focused on the way that you look. So, you saw the Olympics, they all kind of look the same. Tall, skinny, long legs, and you just inevitably start to compare yourself to others. And there's a lot of, you know, there's girls who don't make certain teams because of the way their bodies look, regardless of their talent level. And so I was never in a quote-unquote bigger body, but I always thought that I was too big, like I have some nice muscular thighs, and I didn't have a thigh gap, and I didn't have a six pack. And so when I retired from the sport at the age of 16, I thought that the worst thing that you could possibly do is to gain weight, because in my world, gaining weight meant you were less worthy, you were less valuable. And so I did what anyone else would do as a 16 year old, I started looking online and what can I cut out and what should I be doing? So counting calories and low carb and 1200 calories, and I look back on that time now, and the way that I treated myself and the way that I spoke to myself was so incredibly abusive and negative, and as a result, we talked about it this morning. It's really hard to give other people what you don't have for yourself, and so I had a really hard time connecting with people. I had a hard time even knowing who I really am, what my values are, what do I want to do with my life? Because I thought that if I look a certain way, like my entire life revolved around if I can look a certain way, and if I can be perfect around food and perfect around exercise, that I'm finally going to feel like I'm enough. I'm finally going to feel like I am worthy, and I'm going to feel confident, and as you know, like that's an internal job. And so I thought that if something outside of me change, that I would feel different internally. And then I remember waking up one day where I was at the deepest, darkest part of my eating disorder, and just thinking, what am I all doing this for? Like I started this because I thought that it would make me feel happy and confident and loved and accepted and healthy, and I am getting further and further and further away from those things. So into that conversation of be it till you see it, I really thought about my future, and I thought about the kind of person, the kind of life that I wanted to live, and I always said, I want to travel, I want to be spontaneous, I want to have adventures. And with my rigid thinking around food, around exercise, around myself, none of that would be possible if I didn't make a radical change in how I operated internally.Lesley Logan 9:24  Yeah, oh my gosh. Like, I've and if you went through your life and you never had your, like, the idea of like, oh, once I'm this, then I'll have that. Like, congratulations, what a life you've lived. But most of us, like, I resonate with that so much. We just get really obsessed. Like, oh, as soon as I get there to this five pounds that no one notices on me, and probably is very helpful for me, we, then I'll be happy. And it really, you're so miserable getting there that you can't even enjoy it once you are there. Yeah. So you go on this journey and you're recognizing, like, who you want to be, and then how you are not that person. How does that, like, what did that take you to next? You know, where's the next step? Sabrina Magnan 10:08  So that was really my rock bottom. And at that time in my life, I had the opportunity to go to Italy for the summer to be an au pair. And that had always been my dream. Like, Italy was my dream country, and I noticed that I didn't want to go. I was anxious about going because I didn't want to gain weight, and I was terrified of being around carbs and pasta and all these foods that I couldn't control myself around, and I noticed that this like anxiety that I was feeling was really holding me back at the age of 21 so what would that look like at the age of 30 and 40 and 50? So I was extremely terrified, and I knew that's why I needed to go. I was so uncomfortable, and that's why I needed to do it. So I went to Italy that summer, and the first thing that the Italian nonna, who I lived with said when she saw me was oh my God, you're so skinny let's get you some food. And immediately I thought, oh my God I made a huge mistake. I've made a huge mistake, and I was really challenged that summer, but I, at the same time, I was forced to see a different perspective on what it's like to have a healthy relationship with food. Because in Italy, they don't talk about calories. They're not counting their points. They're not spending two hours at the gym. It's a culture of, let's enjoy food, right? Let's nourish ourself. Let's connect through it. Let's slow down. Let's be mindful. Let's be present, which is something I was never used to. I really saw like a stark contrast between the way that I was living back home, where everything was about being productive and doing the right thing, whereas here it was, let's slow things down and let's actually be present and intentional with what we do, and that like planted a seed of, oh, there's a different way to live a healthy and a happy lifestyle that doesn't go to those extremes. We talked about this morning how I'm a recovering perfectionist, very high standards. And so I really thought that if I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it perfect, I'm going to do it well. And I did that with quote-unquote, clean eating. And so in that summer, I saw it's actually possible to like, have gelato and have bread and have these foods and still feel really good. Feel good physically, feel good mentally, feel good emotionally. I felt even better because I was nourishing myself. So I came home that summer and I really made a decision of, I'm not gonna fall back into what I was doing before, because now I'm back in my environment. I'm back around the same people, the same places. It would be so easy to just get caught up back into that cycle of disordered eating. And it took a few years. It took a few years of like, peeling back the layers, because all of these things that we do, they don't happen in a vacuum. They're all connected. And so I had to unravel like, okay, what are the thoughts that I have around my body? What are the thoughts that I have around the people around me? Like, I had this identity as the healthy friend, I thought that people only loved me because I was so disciplined and because I was so healthy, which, consciously. Lesley Logan 13:46  That's hilarious, Sabrina. There's not a single person out there who goes, you know what? I want to hang out with that really disciplined friend.Sabrina Magnan 13:53  I know. Like, if anything, it made me more unbearable to be around.Lesley Logan 13:56  Like, no, let's not invite Sabrina. She won't eat that anyway. Like, that's what it is, like, that, you know? But I understand, because I was a person with, like, severe stomach issues, and I was like, I'm an annoying friend to hang around like, nobody wants to hang around me. So let me just, like, figure this out. But it's, but it is funny, like you're like, this is how I'm known, though. People know me as the healthy one. I got to be the healthy one. The titles we give ourselves really hold us back. Sabrina Magnan 14:19  Yeah and we develop these beliefs because they served a purpose at some point in your life. And I come from a overachieving family where my dad, you know, never said I love you. He's a phenomenal dad, but he is a boomer dad who never learned to communicate his emotions or how he feels, and we never had any of these kind of conversations. So I always felt like in order to get love and to get attention, because I was the youngest of five kids, I just need to excel. I need to achieve. And so if I'm excelling, if I'm overachieving, then maybe I'll get noticed. And so when I was, you know, working out and losing weight and doing all these things, I felt like I was getting noticed. And so I took that on as an identity of, okay, if you are that, then you are loved. You are accepted. And so even if I, you know, look back on it now, and I wasn't feeling any of those things, it happened so subconsciously. Lesley Logan 15:25  Yeah, yeah, it really does. It's, you know, like it just starts to, you just, you don't even realize it's happening, because it just starts to get warmer and warmer and warmer and, you know, you like, learn to tolerate it. So I think it's what I'm, what I also am hearing is like the awareness, the self-awareness you have is really amazing. I don't know that a lot of people have that self-awareness, at least at that age, but how cool to be in Italy. Like, my friends, I have not been. I need to go. I know, you guys. Sabrina Magnan 15:54  You're missing out.Lesley Logan 15:54  I'm missing out. But y'all, most of you haven't been to Southeast Asia, so I don't, like, you know. So I'll get to the places everyone's been to, you know, eventually, but I've only heard good things, and as someone who can't tolerate gluten, I've also heard I could there. So I'm, like, you have no idea, like, I am ready. But, um, you know, I think to go back into, like, navigating, like, some, like, some of our self-talk, it takes a lot of awareness. Like, how did you even, as you said, like, I started to look at what my self-talk was. Like, what did that, what does that look like? So as the recovering perfectionist, overachiever, I'm like, okay, did you have a journal? Did you like, oh, I've had a thought. Did you write it down? Like, what? Like, how do you evaluate this? How do you be aware of what your self-talk is? Sabrina Magnan 16:38  Yeah, so I actually didn't journal until probably around five to six years ago. And so there was that Italy period, and then I came back, and there was about two years of like, really, like, messiness where I was trying to figure things out, and I was still kind of going back and forth. And then the pandemic hit, and I was in France at the time, I was living in France, and I come back to live at my parents' house because there's so much going on. And I remember I had to do two weeks of quarantine because I was coming back from Europe. And those two weeks when I got back from Europe, I was really, really shaken up, because living in Europe during the beginning of the pandemic was extremely, extremely scary, and I spent those two weeks so angry, angry at the world, angry at my parents, which they were being so lovely letting me come back to live with them, angry at myself, just like pure anger. And I remember there was a Dean Graziosi, like, ad that popped up on my computer, and it was like a two-week happiness challenge. Now at that point, I was like, I had never done personal development before. I had never worked on myself before. And I said what do I have to lose? And so some of it was like these small action items every day, and they were things that I had never done before that made me extremely uncomfortable, like sending a gratitude message to five people in my life. And at the time, I really took this on from my dad. I held everyone at arm's length. I wasn't vulnerable, I wasn't myself. I didn't know who I was. I always just had a wall because it was a way to protect myself. So I was like, I'm gonna go all in and I'm just gonna dedicate myself to doing this, because I feel horrible right now and some of that was. Lesley Logan 18:40  So you're alone for two weeks. What else do you have to do? Like you're. Sabrina Magnan 18:44  I have nothing to lose. Lesley Logan 18:46  It could go really fast or it could go real slow. Sabrina Magnan 18:49  Yeah. So I took out my journal, and I started doing the gratitudes, and, you know, thinking about positive things about myself, and what I noticed is this actually feels really good. It feels good to take these small actions. One of them was I started hugging my parents every morning. My we don't do physical touch in my family, and so when I told them, like, hey, I'm gonna do something for the next month where I'm gonna hug you every morning, they were like, okay, and they started loving it. And so we got so close during that time, and it was through these small, little steps that it was like kind of using like a hammer, and just getting closer and closer to understanding who am I at my core. Like, without all of these learned programs and these things that I've put up in my life in order to protect myself, like, who am I actually? And when I thought about kind of letting go of this identity of the person who's always complaining, very negative, you know, a lot of self-deprecating humor. It made me really uncomfortable to think about becoming a person who is happy and genuine and positive, and when I noticed, like, why am I feeling so uncomfortable at the thought of becoming a like, better, happier version of myself? That goes back to the same thing that happened in Italy. If this is making you uncomfortable, it means that you should go after it.Lesley Logan 20:30  I like that. I think that's really cool. I think that's like, I think we were talking about it this morning, you guys, it's been a day, but yeah, like, it's like, just, you know, what, getting comfortable with discomfort and like, and sometimes discomfort is unfamiliar, but it's also like, oh, I kind of like this. I kind of like, you know, I'm sure those first hugs with your family were weird. Sabrina Magnan 20:53  So weird. Lesley Logan 20:54  And slightly uncomfortable. And you could have just like, okay, I'm not gonna do it tomorrow. It was too weird. But you kind of were like, yeah, but this could make me feel really good, like, I'm gonna try that again, you know. So I think that's really cool. So what a, what a life being in France. We were in Cambodia at the start of pandemic. We came back. Nothing had shut down. Actually, as we flew in, L.A. shut down. So like, so thank goodness for a dog sitter and who went grocery shopping for us while we were flying. I was like, can you please make sure there's food? Like, we're coming back, it shut down. Like, what are we doing? You know, so, but we didn't have to, we quarantined together in our own home. So I understand, like there's so much uncertainty you're coming back, and then it's like, what am I even doing here? This, I can understand being angry, like you were, obviously, living in France for a reason. Like, sounds amazing. How did all of this help, like, make you, did you change your life in a different way? Did you start manifesting, like, what came next? Because, you know, my goodness, it's, it feels like a lot has happened in a short period of time, but also, like, four or five years. So it's also, like a lot, not a long period of time, but decent amount of time. Sabrina Magnan 22:07  Yeah. So, really, what I started doing that year is instead of letting life just happen to me, right, like, be a victim of my consequences, and just like, have all these things come into my life and just be like, I guess, like, things just happen to you, like, bad things happen. I started getting intentional about, okay, what do I want to create? And I really started looking at my life as like a book and just scripting like, okay, what do I want my life to look like? And so I would write it in the present moment, and I would just be like, I'm dating this person. I'm living here. I'm doing this with my business, and I would write them, and I would get my emotions involved, and I would also think, like, how do I want to feel about myself? Because you have to be intentional about the person you want to become, because if you don't, you're just going to keep repeating the same person that you were yesterday. I think science shows that like 80% of your thoughts are the same as the ones that you had yesterday.Lesley Logan 23:07  I know. I still want to know how they figured that out, but I believe it. I mean, like, it's true, but also, like, who sat down into that?Sabrina Magnan 23:15  Who? How? How did you count how many thoughts that we have? Lesley Logan 23:18  Also, we have like, 60,000 thoughts, or something ridiculous, we have a lot of thoughts, and 80% of them are repetitive, yes.Sabrina Magnan 23:26  Yeah. And the vast majority of them are negative, because you're constantly looking out for threats, like we have a negativity bias. And so I really got curious as to, like, okay, if I could literally have a magic wand and create the life that I want, free of limitations, free of what I think is possible, what would that look like? And so I would just write that down every day, and I would start to live in and live into it. And at the time, I had no experience with like manifesting and getting intentional. And what I started noticing is like, oh, these things are actually starting to come into my life, and I'm getting more good things, and I would get evidence that this is possible for you. It's not just something that you're writing down in your journal, like you're writing them down and then you're being intentional about taking those actions, like, it's not just saying I want a red car and then just crossing your fingers that a red car is going to come into your life. I remember about like, two or three years in, I decided, okay, I'm ready to meet my person. I wasn't in a rush to do it. I wasn't like desperate to do it. I actually really liked being single. But every time that I would date someone, and, you know, things wouldn't work out after that, what I would do is I would write down what was it that I liked about them, what did I feel was missing, and what exactly do I want the next person to be like, and, most importantly, like, how do I want to feel with them? It wasn't like they need to have this job and make this amount of money, but it was like, I remember one of the big things is I want to feel like a priority. I want to feel like you feel special to be with me. And I think I dated two or three people before I met my now partner, and I have the paper that I wrote down after the guy that I dated right before Luke. And it's like, it's insane. It's spot on of like, this is, this is exactly who I'm dating now. Lesley Logan 25:43  Yeah, yeah, I actually really like, I like the way you did it, it's like, it's not about, okay, they have to make this much money, and they need to be six feet tall, and they have to be emotionally available and all this stuff that, like, it's like, how do I want to feel in this relationship? You know, how do I want to be treated? Like, how is this? And then that way your brain is actually seeking out, like, knows what to look for. You know, you're like, spotting. You're like, oh, that's that thing I wanted. I wanted that. It's right there. That's, that's a, that's really cool. Okay, we have had manifest people, like, talk about manifestation on the podcast before, but everyone has like a different way of doing it. So even if it's like, new to you, like, what are some, what are some of the ways that you've manifested, and what else have you manifested? Because I think, some people think, oh, manifesting is like the secret. I just proclaim it and it comes. I believe it takes action. It sounds like you do too, because you took some action. So what are some of your other ways of manifesting things?Sabrina Magnan 26:37  Yeah, great question. So I would say that one of the biggest things is just get clear. Obviously, get clear on what you want and to start putting your energy towards it. So for example, Luke and I are manifesting a dog for spring of 2025, and we don't know if we're going to be able to have a dog in our current apartment, and so we just keep, we just keep acting as if it's already happened. And that's the biggest thing, I would say, is act as if you already have it, be the person who already has it. So there's a lot of goals that I'm manifesting in my business, for example. And a lot of people think, okay, once I hit that goal, then I will feel this, this, this, then I will be this, this, this. But it's so backwards, because first you have to be that person. You have to match the frequency of the thing that you want to achieve. So I think, okay, a person who has this revenue goal, this amount of clients, how do they act on a daily basis? What are they doing in their business? Because this is going to help me get clarity on, okay, is that person still taking care of these actions in their business? No, they're delegating. So let me start delegating, making space for it now, and start taking those actions to make myself ready to receive those goals. Lesley Logan 28:10  Yes, yes. That's be it till you see it right there, everyone, that's how you do it. You have to like, you can't like, oh, once I get the promotion, then I'll be a kinder boss or a better leader? No, you have to be the better, you have to act like the better leader now, what would a better leader do? Can't be like once I do this, then I'll have this, or once I, once I get a day off, then I'll, then I'll take time for myself. Go take time for yourself each day, even if it's five minutes like, you won't know what to do with yourself. You won't. It will feel very unfamiliar, and it will feel very uneasy, and it won't give you the confidence you need if you wait, you know you'll feel like an imposter, for sure. Sabrina Magnan 28:45  And the brain that you have leading up to that goal is going to be the exact same brain that you have when you have that goal. It's not just going to switch overnight, like, oh, now I think differently, and now I act differently. Like, everything, all of my problems have been solved.Lesley Logan 29:01  Yeah, that's true. That's very true. What are your favorite ways to kind of like, help your brain be comfortable with some of these changes you make? Because I think that's the hardest thing. Like your brain is like, this feels unsafe. It's unsafe for me to do it that way. I want to do it this way. That isn't helping me, but it's comfortable. Sabrina Magnan 29:19  Oh my God, that's such a good question, because right now I'm like, stepping into a new timeline, stepping into new goals. And I did notice that, and I was talking to my coach about it. When I think about the goal logically, I'm like, It's possible. I want it. But when I noticed and I tapped into my body, I was like, there's some resistance here. And I think that a lot of people actually experience that. They say that they want a goal, but if they actually tap into what's going on in their nervous system and what's going on in their bodies, there's like, there's a disconnect there. And if there's a disconnect, it means that something subconsciously, or some things, multiple things, don't feel safe around that goal. Don't feel safe around chasing that thing. So when I really sat down with it, what I'll typically do is I'll just ask my heart, like, all right, where are you, where are you feeling a block? Like, what feels unsafe about this? And then I'll write it down. And what I'll often notice is that it's not just one thing, like, there's multiple things that come into play. I remember a few years ago, I thought, if I make more money, then my friends are going to, they're not going to be around me, like my friend, my family's not going to want to be around me, which is, it's not necessarily a belief that's based in truth, but we create these beliefs because it just, something about it doesn't feel safe. And so what I like to do is I like to write things down. What are all of these different things that I'm feeling resistance around? And then I start to pick at all of them. All right? Is this true? What about this is true? Is it true 100% of the time, and sometimes you do need to do some nervous system regulation. Like, sometimes what I'll do is I'll say a belief out loud, and I'll take a few deep breaths to make it feel safe to actually hold on to this belief, to really like, the biggest thing is like, I get my body involved, because most of the time my brain's on board, right? Like, most of the time, people are like, I have these goals. I have these ambitions. Your brain is on board, but your nervous system is not necessarily feeling safe around it.Lesley Logan 31:31  Yes, yes, yes. I think so. I agree with that, and I think that's really helpful. It's kind of just like asking those questions and tapping into it. And I think writing is a really good way, even if you can't read your writing, guys, like me, like just writing it out, because we tend to let more information come out. I would do morning pages, which is my if, whenever I journal it's gonna be morning pages, just gonna be a brain dump, because all you're like, whoa I didn't even know that was in there. That was in there. Oh, noted, you know, like, it's, how long has that been sitting there? No wonder I'm feeling anxious. So I think that's really, really important. It's really key. What are you most excited about right now, besides this 2025 puppy?Sabrina Magnan 32:09  Oh, I mean, that's probably at the top of my list, honestly, if I'm I was never a dog person until probably two years ago, when I started dating my boyfriend. And now I am like, I've, everyday, I'm like, okay, so, are you ready? Are you ready to have our dog, yet? So I would say my dog is up there. I've got a bunch of weddings from people that I really care about that are coming up in the next month, which I'm really excited to celebrate and love on. And I have some really awesome projects coming into my business for the next six months to expand, impact more people. So those are the things that I'm really looking forward to. Lesley Logan 32:47  That's so fun. If you want a dog, like a puppy fix, a dog fix and it will be hard, I'm not saying it's going to be easy, but one of the things that we, my husband and I used to do in L.A. is we actually used to walk dogs that were in the shelter, and because we couldn't take them, we had two already, so we were, we were done, but I would just see all these dogs up for adoption, these puppies up for adoption, and you can literally, like, go take them for a walk, and they, when they get out, they're wearing a sign that says, I'm available to be adopted. So you're, like, getting them out to be adopted. You're getting your dog fix. You get to practice what it's like to, like, have a dog out in public, and like, how to handle it and all those things. But also you could just take it back and like, you know. So I, one of my favorite things, you can also read to dogs in the shelter. You can cuddle with them. So like, I highly recommend, like, getting cozy with one. There was one that had a vet that was next to my Pilates studio. And so they would just text me, like, hey, there's a dog that's at the vet today. Can you take him out? Because the veterinarians obviously don't do that kind of stuff. And so I would go and take the dogs for a walk. That was what I did. And I just would love up on them and give them all this love and like, help them like, you know, not feel like they're in the shelter. It was so, it was so fun. And who knows, I'll probably do that again. The other thing you can, like, for, there's this one person who like is training for a marathon. So he would actually run like, 20 different dogs in the shelter every day, and he'd run them for a mile-ish, and so he could get his like he could get different lengths of running in and get the dogs to exercise. So it's just something like you can do, obviously, in the winter in Canada, no, but now it's nice.Sabrina Magnan 34:34  Here's the problem. I know that my boyfriend would never let me go, because he always says, if you go to a shelter, I know that you're coming home with a puppy, like, there's no way, if they have a little sign that says open for adoption.Lesley Logan 34:48  I promise you won't. Here's why. Your apartment won't let you and most shelters need to see the lease that says you have, you can have a dog, so they're not going to let you take the dog home like it is. I promise you, you're in a safe like you, they won't, they won't let you take a dog that they're afraid they're gonna get back. So you will be fine.Sabrina Magnan 35:08  Hilarious. Lesley Logan 35:09  All right, we'll take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you, or work with you.Lesley Logan 35:14  All right. Sabrina, where do you like to hang out? Where can people connect more with you if what you have resonated with them?Sabrina Magnan 35:21  Yeah. So if you like to listen to podcasts, which I'm sure that you do, you can head over to my podcast, which is called the Live Unrestricted podcast, which, Lesley, you're going to be a guest on, which I'm so excited about. And you can also find me on Instagram @sabrinamagnanhealth. I have a coaching program called Food Freedom Academy. So if you are struggling with your relationship with food and your body, reach out, connect. I'd love to talk to you. Lesley Logan 35:47  I love it. That is so fun. Yes, you guys, I was interviewed on her podcast. We talked about habits and breaking them, and I think you'll really like it. So you've given us some great tips already, manifestation, like, self-talk. But for those perfectionist, recovering overachievers, those people who are like, okay, what's next, Sabrina? Those we want some bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Sabrina Magnan 36:10  We're talking about actionable things. So I would say, honestly, the first place to start is take out a piece of paper and have two different columns. And one is what I like to write, the old me, and then I'll put down the thoughts, the emotions and the actions that I want to leave behind. And a lot of this we've talked about self-talk. It could be the way that you talk to yourself, right? I'm such a failure. I can never stick to anything. I'm not good enough. Everyone is so much better than me. Get that down on paper and say, okay, that's, I'm bringing my awareness to this. So every time that I notice that that thought starts to pop up, I know we're not doing that anymore. And then on the second side of the paper could be the future me, and that's what you're going to replace those thoughts, those emotions and those actions with. Because what this really does is it helps you pinpoint those things that you want to bring to your conscious awareness. Because, as we said, before, these things happen unconsciously, they are on autopilot. You've been practicing them so many times that you don't have to think about speaking negatively to yourself. You've gone really, really good at it. So we need to interrupt that automatic pattern. We need to bring it up to our conscious awareness and decide we're not doing that anymore, and we are going to take the actions necessary in order to reframe into something different.Lesley Logan 37:40  Yes, I love that. Thank you for that. What a great tip. That's a great thing to do. You guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Make sure you tag Sabrina. Tag the Be It Pod. Send this to a friend who needs to hear it. There's always that friend who, like, you know, has been struggling and maybe telling you, like, I'm struggling with this, you know, I'm struggling with just being a perfectionist or like taking the next step or acting as if, if this resonates with you, it'll resonate with them. So send it to a friend and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 38:10  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 38:52  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 38:57  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 39:02  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 39:09  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 39:12  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Lesley Logan kicks off this episode with a tribute to trailblazer Shirley Chisholm, setting the tone for a reflection on choosing your own path—especially when things feel chaotic. From restarting a business in a new country to finishing 15 months of self-growth, Lesley celebrates wins from the community that show the power of persistence. She also shares her own win—making a major business decision from a place of clarity, not pressure. If you've been chasing someone else's timeline, this episode is a gentle nudge to pause and realign with what's right for you. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? How's it going? We're like, midway through this April month, we're cruising right along. There's a lot going on and I love that you are taking time in the chaos to listen to this podcast. It doesn't grow without you. Every time you listen, every time you download, you are helping other people hear this podcast as well. So it's inspiration episode, and I want to highlight this Female Quotient post Shirley Chisholm was the first black woman elected to Congress, the first black woman to run for president, and an example for generations to come. Shirley Chisholm was a force of change in American politics as the first black woman elected to Congress in 1968 and the first woman and first black candidate to seek the Democratic presidential nomination in 1972. She shattered barriers as she fought for racial and gender equality. Even decades later, she continues to inspire others to bring that folding chair to tables that may not save them a seat. Definitely a trailblazer. And I would say, if you haven't ever read about her, she is absolutely, really worthy of listening to something about and just diving in because this woman faced so many obstacles, not just because she was a woman, but she was a black woman, and she made a chair for herself, and she kept doing it and she's an inspiration for everyone, and also not letting people who had weird rules about what she couldn't, can and can't do, stop her from realizing a dream and raising that path. And so I just share that with you, because when there's a lot going on in the world, it can kind of feel like, what does my goal even matter? Why am I even doing this? Does it even matter? And the truth is, is that maybe 50 years down the road, we're gonna be looking back at the things that you did, because you were an impact for people who needed it. And if what you do is going to help others, then you gotta talk about it. You gotta do it. You cannot let people and obstacles and rules hold you back. Cannot. And so anyways, I hope that you know a lot about Shirley, but if you don't go research her, she'll blow your mind. Lesley Logan 2:43  Okay, your wins. So, we have Sonia. She's an eLevate grad and agency member. She wrote, the last six months have been a huge whirlwind of emotions, stress, happiness, physically and mentally exhausting, but also exciting and full of hope and happiness. After moving country, we finally bought a new home. We moved in this week. While there's been a lot of work, it's also super exciting. We're already talking about plans to build a home studio so I can restart my business here. It will take some time and at quite a cost, but in the long run, will be worth it. Oh, and I also scored myself some part time contract to work at a beautiful physio-Pilates studio, teaching just three mornings a week. The setup is similar to a Joe's gym. Everyone has their own program, and I'm there just to queue, adjust, advise. I went to observe one class. It was so nice to be being background equipment and people who love it as much as I do. And since doing eLevate, I was desperate to get in and change things. Haha. Although very aware I need to do this slowly and cautiously. So my win is for an exciting and busy 2025 getting my home and my business up and running. Sonia, it's so fun. I mean, I can't believe how long you've lived in your new country. And you know, I know that finding a home was just taking forever, and it kind of probably felt like you, when were you gonna find something. So, I'm just so happy that you and your family have that. But also, I want to say for everyone listening, you hear a win, and you don't realize all the emotions that went into that win. And so I love that Sonia shared these emotions that go into this win, because it isn't all unicorns and sparkly rainbows. And so you have to really, actually celebrate what is happening and what is in your control, and how that can make the year possible, even if it feels like it started off slow, right? Lesley Logan 4:22  MelissaYNagai, she has been an agency member since day one, and she wrote, 15 months of getting online every Tuesday and Thursday morning for a course is complete. I don't know what I'm going to do with myself now. Probably a good time to do Pilates. Today is my last day of teaching for the holidays. I start back up on January 6. I had my best year ever. So obviously, we're celebrating Melissa four months after her best year ever. But can we just take a moment? Do you ever end a year realizing all that you did do? And I can tell you, because I know Melissa, and we work with her a lot, it wasn't like everything went perfectly this year. She had a lot of ups and downs, and with that, she stayed the course. She was consistent. She had her best year ever, and she did that while she poured into herself and her education. So my loves, where can you pour into yourself and where can you take time to reflect on what you did do? Congratulations, Melissa. You have been working so hard year after year. You always beat yourself, but I love that was your best year ever, and I love how you feel good and that you're taking a break as one should, or that you did take a break as one should, because we all need breaks. Lesley Logan 5:26  And that's my win. Last week, Brad and I took a big break. We had a crazy end of February, beginning of March, lot going on, and I had a big decision to make about one of our products for 2026 and I had told the team that I would make the decision around this time, and I really was like, you cannot pressure me. I need you just to wait. I'll tell you around this date, because I want to make sure that I'm not making the decision based on income. I'm not making the decision based on pressure, based on letting people down, that I'm making the decision based on what is right for me, because what is right for me will be right for the company. And so I'm really celebrating that we took a weekend off, even though we had a million things that we could be doing, and that I made a decision from a pause, because there's power in a pause, and I made a decision based on what was right for me, and then everyone, and not on pressure of what's expected of me, and that's really not easy to do as a recovering perfectionist and overachiever and a firstborn daughter. So help that win inspires you. Take a weekend off, guys, if you want to know, we actually plan one weekend every quarter is off, like it's just like Friday to Monday, it's off. And I prefer it to not be a holiday weekend, because we would get a holiday weekend off anyways. So I want a, I want a different weekend. I want a different weekend. Lesley Logan 6:45  All right, your mantra. My energy gets wasted when I invest in winning anyone's game but my own. My energy gets wasted when I invest in winning anyone's game but my own. My loves, invest in yourself. Thank you for listening to this podcast that goes in the investment bucket of inspiration for you and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 7:11  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 7:53  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 7:58  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 8:03  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 8:10  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 8:13  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Jose Acevedo didn't set out to be a storyteller—but life had other plans. In this insightful recap, Lesley and Brad reflect on his deep commitment to community, the unexpected lessons of fatherhood, and how honoring your roots can guide your purpose. Tune in for a powerful reminder that connection is built one story—and one step—at a time. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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But I also think, like, don't get discouraged when you find yourself noodling in on the goal and the deadline gets moved, it doesn't mean you failed, right? Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:56  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the inspirational convo I had with Jose Acevedo. I wanted to say, like defining convo, or the journey, a discovery, because, I mean, like that, he's the host of Finding Arizona, and that kind of just makes sense. But anyways, he's so fabulous, and it was such a fun conversation. You were on it? Yeah. We had a great time. Brad Crowell 1:20  No, no, I was on his. Lesley Logan 1:21  Oh, you were on. I was like, how are you recapping? You were there, but anyways, you were on his with me. Got it. I'm here, you guys. I, we had a really good time. So you want to listen to that episode and also listen to episode Brad and I were on with Finding Arizona, but. Brad Crowell 1:37  Which was his episode 435. Why do I know that? Great question, but I do.Lesley Logan 1:43  Wow. That is, I don't know, like 435. So you guys, before we get into Jose's amazingness. Today is April 17th 2025 and it's the International Day of Mastering Conversations That Matter. Okay. Brad Crowell 1:55  That's what it is. Lesley Logan 1:56  Let's all learn this together, folks. International Day of Mastering Conversations That Matter is on April 17th, I just said that, but it's okay. Important conversations are the reason why humanity stands where it is today. The ability to communicate is what separates us from all other species in the world. The advancements in medical science and technology testify to what humans are capable of. All these achievements can be traced back to an idea, an idea that was shared, discussed and debated. Important conversations have helped build empires from scratch, and the lack of them has resulted in their fall. Not just empires, but relationships tend to break apart with poor communication. It is important for the survival of the human race to constantly share ideas and bridge gaps. It is important to learn and discuss things in the past so that we have a better tomorrow. Well.Brad Crowell 2:39  So, I couldn't agree more. International Day of Mastering Conversations That Matter. Lesley Logan 2:44  I know but we, you know what? Whoever invented this day, you better go buy a platform so that the other ideas people might want to control actually can come to the top of an algorithm. That's all I'm going to say about that. Brad Crowell 2:57  No, I'm not. I'm going to say a whole lot more. So I'm frustrated that we stop sharing information as a country, especially when it comes to health and medical research. I'm frustrated that. Lesley Logan 3:08  I was gonna say that our country has done a really good job sharing things they shouldn't share, so. Brad Crowell 3:12  Right. They're fucking texting war plans to reporters, but they're not willing to share information among hospitals so that they can make the right flu vaccine. It's mind blowing to me. And the reality is that when we stop sharing medical information with the rest of the world with an isolationist policy, we are putting ourselves at risk, because the next pandemic, we might not have any forewarning, because since we're not sharing information with them, they're certainly not going to share information with us. Lesley Logan 3:38  People have already just said they, you can't share with us anymore, because you can't trust that we'll do the right thing with it.Brad Crowell 3:43  Well, that's with spy stuff, but like, healthcare stuff, don't we want to know if there's something coming? Don't we want to know these things? And I think that when we wall ourselves off, when we think that we're better than the rest of the world and that we're going to be better off by pretending the rest of the world doesn't exist, we're deluding ourselves. Lesley Logan 3:58  Yeah, I think every Be It listener is like nodding along. I mean, I don't think you listen to this podcast if you think people should be deported who are just here living. Anyway. Brad Crowell 4:07  Well, so, so honestly, how do we fix this? Like, how do we. Lesley Logan 4:10  Okay, do we have steps? Brad Crowell 4:12  Yeah, we do. And the reality is, if you're in the United States with us, we live in a representative republic. We call it democracy. But the reality is, we don't get to vote every day, you and I as normal citizens, we voted for someone to go to the Congress for us, to represent us, to vote for us. And they vote all the time. They vote on things all the time on our behalf, right? And the only way that we have any power right now between the election cycles where we vote those people in or out, such as the president of the United States, or our congressperson or house of representatives person, the only way that we have power today is to call them and to make sure they know what we think. Right? It's the only power that we have until the elections come back around. And that's the best possible thing that you can do, is to make it known to the people who represent us what we care about, right? The more of us that call and contact our reps, the better, because the reality is that.Lesley Logan 5:07  Whether you voted for them or not, they work for you. Brad Crowell 5:10  That's right, whether you voted for them or not, they work for you, and especially if you're in their district or their region, right? If you're in their state, if they're the senator, then they represent the whole state. The house also represents the whole state, but local, there's local governments as well. Lesley Logan 5:22  But you, just because you didn't, if you were like, I think my person's an asshole, you should still be a nail in their, thorn on their side, a thorn on their side, a nail and a thorn on their side the same time. Also, you guys, go to city council meetings like a handful of assholes go, and you can be there to be the person. So I also wanted to say. Brad Crowell 5:39  That's more local, but yes, absolutely. Lesley Logan 5:41  I'm getting this woman on the pod. Just don't you worry, I'm so fucking, I'm a fan girl and a fan girl. She's so smart. I'm not lesbian, but this girl is so smart, if I was, I'd want to learn from her every day. Anyways, her podcast is called Unlearn16: Class is in Session. Her wife, she's got a wife, but I'm not trying to get in on this. But I was listening to her. Lesley Logan 5:59  I don't think any of us were assuming that. Okay. Lesley Logan 6:01  I was listening to her podcast, because it came up and I was like, okay, class is in session. That's how it goes. I was and I would listen to it, and I was like, oh, I kind of know about democracy stuff. No, you guys, you guys. She lays out what is a democracy. She explains it for Canada and the U.S., and she explains what are the pillars that create one? What has to be in there? To me, going on a conversation that matter, I think you have to actually know what a true democracy is, to actually have a conversation with someone who's trying to take things away. And so her episode that came out today, not today, when you're listening, a month ago, but though it's called The One Where I Make Democracy Behind the Scenes. I love her titles. They're all like that. So it's Unlearned16: Class is in Session, fuck yeah, The One Where I Make Democracy Behind the Scenes, I learned a ton, and she's a Canadian High School teacher, so clearly my teachers didn't do great job. But that's okay. I think it goes with the topic. Okay. Brad Crowell 6:53  All right, moving on. Lesley Logan 6:54  Go have a conversation that matters. Brad Crowell 6:55  Thank you for listening. I'm gonna get off my soapbox here. Here's what we've got coming up on our travel schedule. Lesley Logan 7:02  Right now. Brad Crowell 7:03  You're currently, Lesley is currently gone from our house. She's recording from the stars. Lesley Logan 7:08  I know, I'm like living it up in Santa Barbara.Brad Crowell 7:11  She's in Santa Barbara, y'all.Lesley Logan 7:11  I'm at the beach. I'm filming for Pilates Anytime again. Thank you to everyone at Pilates Anytime who loves my stuff. We got a bunch of classes coming at you. I'm really excited for what we have with Pilates Anytime. And when I come back a few days later and it's spring training.Brad Crowell 7:25  Well, yes, if you are in the U. K. or in the E.U., Lesley and I are coming in September, and we want to make sure you know about it. So go to opc.me/uk, opbc.me/uk, we're going to be teaching in the UK. It's just a short flight for those of you who are across the pond there. I mean, the channel, really. Lesley Logan 7:44  Which pond? Brad Crowell 7:45  Yeah, the channel. Lesley Logan 7:46  You know, people on the East Coast to (inaudible) that is the pond. And also, it is so easy for you. We're doing double.Brad Crowell 7:54  Yeah, six hours, but anyway, y'all should come join us. We don't get there very often, and we're really fired up to be coming back. We're going to be in Leeds and in Essex, and it's gonna be awesome. So come join us on the Mullet Tour, opc.me/uk, and then at the end of this month, Spring Training. That's OPC's Spring Training. It's our first ever annual event for Spring Training. And what is Spring Training?Lesley Logan 8:17  So, Spring Training is kind of like how baseball has a couple weeks of playing each other, and it doesn't really matter. So. Brad Crowell 8:23  Preseason, baby. Lesley Logan 8:24  Preseason. So this is like a Pilates week of spring training. And the theme this week for this one is The Push-Up. And so we're planking, and we're talking about it, but all the classes are going to be around building up your push-up, which, by the way, Joe put at the end of the mat order. So,why? You could stand up and walk away from your practice and be really awesome and top. So it's really cool. Everything's going to lead gonna lead to that. You don't have to be a Pilates enthusiast to even join us. There's a mat ticket, so meaning you just go to the mat classes, because that's all you have access to, is some room on your floor. And then there's an all access ticket, which gets you the 10 classes. And that will be mat, reformer, tower, Cadillac, chair. Obviously, if you only have a reformer or mat, you still want the all access that's gonna be at the six, the price is so cheap, you won't, you don't even need to worry that you don't have the other pieces of equipment. Brad Crowell 9:08  But here's what you do want. We're gonna make it even more reasonable if you're on the waitlist so that you can get that really bird discount. So go to opc.me/events, opc.me/events, come join us. It's gonna be a heck of a party. We're doing that this year instead of Summer Camp, okay? Lesley Logan 9:26  Because we're doing summer tours and winter tours, and we needed a different season. Brad Crowell 9:30  Yeah, we wanted a different season. So, if you are a Pilates business owner in any way, meaning you're taking money from anyone for any reason, whether that's in your home or in the park, or you have a studio. If you are the one that's actually taking the money from a client, you're technically a business owner. So come join us for a free webinar where we're gonna help support you with the growth of that business. We're gonna help you understand, how do I get more clients? How do I raise my rates? How does it all work? Like, how do we actually make this happen? This is for brand new people. It's also for people who've had like a studio for 20 years with a major team, because we kind of just stumble our way through this. There wasn't anybody guiding us. And Lesley and I have had the chance over the past seven years to stand alongside more than 2500 business owners, just like you, and go through the mud with them, try to figure out the problems that they're experiencing, problem clients or problem lease holders, or my insurance or my marketing is terrible. I don't have any people coming in. My phone stopped ringing. My website isn't bringing clients. All these kinds of things. We've had the opportunity to be there right alongside people in trenches, and from that, we've pulled three major secrets that we want to share with you. So come join me for this free webinar. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot B-I-Z slash accelerator. And finally.Lesley Logan 10:50  We're going to Cambodia in October, and we want you to come. Do not pass go. Just go straight to crowsnestretreats.com and snag your spot. Stay at our house, do Pilates with us, go see the temples of Ankor and all the other ones that are surrounding it that most people don't see. They fly all the way there and they don't see it. They just go on by. They don't even see it. We're gonna take you there. And we're gonna go to Lotus Farm and do all these different things.Brad Crowell 11:10  Actually, this upcoming one, y'all, we have a new temple that, that's not new for them, but a new one for Lesley and I. It's a new temple they built last week. Brad Crowell 11:19  New thousand-year-old temple. Brad Crowell 11:21  Lesley and I've never been to this temple, and I was, we were driving by it in our retreat earlier this year, and I asked our tour guide, like, hey, what's the story with this temple? How come we always skip it? And she said, we just run out of time. But let's make this a priority. So in October, this upcoming October, we're going to be adding one more temple to the list that Lesley and I haven't even visited. I'm very excited. I'm like, super, super excited about it. It's gonna be amazing. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com and make your deposit today, right now, to save your spot, because space is limited. Lesley Logan 11:54  Okay, we gotta get into the interview with Jose, but before that, we have an audience question, don't we, Brad? Brad Crowell 11:59  Yes. Ilikecats123BB from YouTube asks, hey, do I need any equipment for the mat Pilates classes on OPC other than the mat?Lesley Logan 12:11  I love this question, because I think it's really easy to think, oh my God, I'm gonna have to have all these different things to get started in Pilates. Most of the props that someone could use in a Pilates mat class you can use from your house. So I even create it for the accessories deck. So technically, no, you can do mat Pilates without anything. Joe created it. So you just need you and your mat. And if you want to invest in your Pilates practice, like the mat is where I'm a, with the OPC episode that's coming out, everyone's like, I'm a mat rat. I'm like, okay, we need to come up with a different animal. I don't want to be a mat rat, but like, we were all like, I'm a mat rat. I only love the mat. So anyway, if that's who you are, you might want to invest eventually in a Contrology mat with handles and a strap, because it does change your practice, especially for the advanced exercises. But if you're never going overhead, you don't need to make that investment. So you technically don't need anything. However, one pound weights, a squishy ball, like a fitness ball, you let the air out of in a magic circle, and a heavy duty TheraBand, those things. Brad Crowell 13:08  How about a block? Lesley Logan 13:10  Ah, no, the squishy ball.Brad Crowell 13:12  Squishy ball instead of block. Lesley Logan 13:13  It's not yoga. Brad Crowell 13:14  Got it. Lesley Logan 13:14  Yeah. No. You use the squishy ball because you'd put the block between your ankles, and it's not gonna be as fun as a squishy ball. They just squish, it would be really great. So. Brad Crowell 13:21  But what if you don't have one pound weights? Lesley Logan 13:23  You can use water bottles. Brad Crowell 13:24  What? Fill it with water? Lesley Logan 13:26  And if you don't have.Brad Crowell 13:27  Or like beans? Lesley Logan 13:29  You can use beans, just make sure the same beans, you know, like.  Brad Crowell 13:31  I got tomato in here, I got apple seeds in here. Lesley Logan 13:32  I had a client using two beers, you know, two cans of beers. And I was like, just put it back in the fridge after you're done. You're not gonna want to open those up. Brad Crowell 13:39  That's brilliant. Lesley Logan 13:39  Yeah, just make sure they're the same product, so that the weight of them is the same. But one pound is what we're going for. If you don't have a TheraBand, you can use an old pair of leggings. If you don't have a squishy ball, you can use a couch cushion or a dog's toy, kid's toy. Your kids probably have a ball that you could let some air out of. You know, a magic circle. That's the harder one. You kind of do have to buy that, but there's so many cheap ones now it's pretty easy to grab one of those. Brad Crowell 14:02  Yeah, totally. Well, awesome. Great question, Ilikecats. Lesley Logan 14:05  By the way, if you go to onlinepilatesclasses.com you can join OPC for 40 days for $40 and guess what? You can experience several weeks of mat classes of ours. You can ask questions. You can send in a video of you doing a mat exercise, and I'll give you feedback on your form.Brad Crowell 14:18  Okay, I just want to take a super quick pause, and I want to call this out. There is no other platform on the Internet where you can submit a specific video of you saying what am I doing here, am I doing it right, and get feedback from certified Pilates instructors. There's no other place online, okay? So OPC has something that is magical that not enough people take advantage of. So come join OPC, and then if you're struggling with an exercise, no problem. We are here to support you. We excludes me. I'm not a certified Pilates instructor. Lesley Logan 14:53  And I give you like other things that you can do. I'm like, oh, go grab this and go do it like this. And so you just have more homework. It's really like having a private session for nothing, you pay nothing. You just be a member.Brad Crowell 15:04  Well, stick around. We're gonna be right back. We're gonna dig into this fantastic convo we had with Jose Acevedo and Finding Arizona. BRB. Brad Crowell 15:13  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about Jose Acevedo. Jose is the host of finding Arizona, a podcast spotlighting entrepreneurs, creators and leaders, shaping Arizona's local landscape. Driven by a genuine love for connection and community, he provides guests with a welcoming platform to share their journeys in their own words. What began as a screen printing passion project ultimately drew Jose into podcasting where he found his true calling, giving people space to tell their stories. Today, he and his wife Britt run the show together, making Finding Arizona a thriving hub for inspiration and local voices. And funny enough, Lesley and I had the opportunity to be interviewed on that podcast, even though we don't live in Arizona, but we actually go to Arizona pretty regularly, a couple times a year, usually. That's where we got a chance to meet them. We were down there speaking at an event. Britt and Jose were also speaking at the same event, and we had a chance to just chit-chat with them off stage. And it was great. And that's how we connected with them. Yeah, Finding Arizona is cool because it's, it really grew organically. And I think. Lesley Logan 16:15  I also think what a great if you're just going to visit Arizona, what a great podcast to go listen to. You can go through the different, they have so many episodes, you can search through it. They're a wealth of knowledge of different local businesses and entrepreneurs and really supportive. And I think that's what makes you want to go to a place. It's like when you can know the insiders spaces to go, the coffee shops, the pizza restaurants, all that kind of stuff, like, who's doing what? Just think it's really, really impressive. I love that our conversation with Jose, I think he's, first of all, the nicest person. I think he might be the softest, but I don't mean soft like he doesn't have about, I just mean like, his energy is soft, his voice is soft, like, he's just endearing. I really enjoy him. So anyways, he talked about storytelling, and he said, like, what it can do for society and culture that has been on this earth for so long and has thrived just from hearing these stories and using that as a religion, and that kind of goes into the day that we're kind of celebrating right now, the conversations that matter, so, good job, Brad. And he talked a little bit about his grandfather, an elder in the Hopi community, so we're First Nation, and he got to, in like that community, from what I understand about people who are native, and like they're grandkids of a native, everyone talks about the storytelling, and they learn so much through storytelling. And so I think it's really cool that Jose learned that from his grandfather and from his culture and from his community, and then is using that for other people. So I really enjoyed, I really enjoyed him talking about the importance of storytelling and (inaudible).Brad Crowell 17:44  He talked about how it shapes religion and culture and society, and how he was really impacted by that. And then. Lesley Logan 17:51  I think that's like, one of the things that I wanted to even have him on is not just, let's talk about Finding Arizona, but how do you get into being this person and like that be it till you see it, and it's like, well, I'm starting with storytelling. I wanted to tell the stories. And I just think that that's like, you know, most of us are wondering, like, what we could do at this point, and you could, you could tell stories about experience that have happened in your life and the lives before you. And that's how we learn, and that's how we keep, that's how we keep repeating the past.Brad Crowell 18:14  Yeah, it's how we remember the past too. I mean, it's how you do everything all the way up to sell. It's how you sell these stories. You know, people are captivated by stories. It's why the movie industry is so powerful and big and huge, and podcasts are, you know, like even happening, right? It's all about storytelling. It's fun to see that his excitement for storytelling shaped who he's become today and what he does today. So I really loved where you started talking about fatherhood. He said fatherhood has changed a lot about how I see the world, how I perceive the world, how I go about the world. He said becoming a father shifted his entire perspective on life and his purpose. He wants his son to grow up seeing a world filled with opportunity, with kindness and meaningful conversations. And he shared a story where he said podcasting has affected his family in the perception of even his son is now like, are you gonna go have a conversation? Are you gonna go have a podcast now? You know, and his son's like, three, and so it's helping him share this concept of storytelling with his son, and his son gets to see how much his dad loves to do this and all this kind of stuff. And Jose's approach to work and life has been influenced by this idea of setting a positive example, right? Because now he's intentionally meeting people he doesn't know. He's asking questions, he's being curious, he's demonstrating all these things. Rather than chasing success for personal gain, he sees his work as a way to build a legacy for his son, and he said he wanted him to know that there are good people out there and there's a community that will back him. Lesley Logan 19:47  I mean, we've talked about this before with other women on this show, like we talked about it with Kristen, the episode, I think 500, 501 it's so good for your kids to see you in the world doing the thing that you love, because it lets them know what's possible, but also, like, they do learn from it, they do pick it up, right? Amy Ledine said in her episode five, actions are caught not taught, and so I think it's just really cool. I love that he picked that up and he shared that with everyone. Brad Crowell 20:13  Yeah, well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into Be It Action Items that Jose shared and very heartfelt, so we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 20:22  All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Jose Acevedo? He said t,ry your best to set a big goal, but also make sure that you're taking those routines that are going to help you achieve that big goal, right? Do small steps forward. Also, you have to allow yourself for your goal to shift over time and move, but along the way, you still have to be taking steps, right? Here's a good example. We set a goal to take our physical products and sell them in another country, right? And at first it was like, oh, we have this opportunity. We should do this right now. We gotta go, go, go, go, go, go, go. You know. And someone on our team was like, hey, wait a minute. We have a lot of other things going on. We probably could pull this off. However, what do we do with these other things? Should we be back burning them? And I was like, oh, wait, wait a minute, you know, is it really necessary for us to go, go, go, go, go right now with this thing, or can we delay that launch of that initiative in a time where the team can handle the workload, the marketing calendar is a little more open, we can have a better conversation about it with our customers, and so it still allows us to go after that big goal, but just in a different way. Lesley Logan 21:38  And also we can adjust the routines to make sure that that goal happens, and then talking about it, we actually got to explore like, well, is there another way to achieve this goal, to test the goal, to even experiment with it. So I love big, badass, bodacious goals. BHAGs. Brad Crowell 21:53  Forgot about those. Lesley Logan 21:54  Forgot about the episode number, but it's a great one. But I also think, like, don't get discouraged when you find yourself noodling in on the goal and the deadline gets moved, it doesn't mean you failed, right? It didn't mean it. So I love that. I love it. Jose mentioned a life responds to effort. He said, if you look back on the little steps you're taking, you'll actually see that you're providing yourself the opportunity to move forward. And so if you're not making an effort, you're not moving anywhere. You're kind of stagnant. But when you make little, tiny steps, even if, for this particular goal that Brad is talking about, some of the steps are like literally doing nothing for a couple of weeks, like a conversation. I'm having a conversation. But as long as we take those little steps, it's like peeling an onion back. We get to another layer of working towards that goal, very different than going, okay, well, I love this goal. It's gonna happen in September, and then not talking about it again for until August, that would be stagnation, and the goal isn't going to move forward in September because we didn't take the little steps along the way. So I really think that's really great. I think whenever I talk about habits, it's always like tiny habits works, and a lot of us are this all or nothing people. If I'm not doing everything toward making this goal happen, then I'm doing nothing. That's not how it goes. So, anyways. Brad Crowell 22:59  That's not how it goes. Lesley Logan 23:00  I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 23:01  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 23:01  Thank you so much for listening today. Thank you, Jose, for being on our episode, our show. You're so wonderful. I hope to run into you in Arizona when we're there for summer tour. You guys, yep, cat's out of the bag. We're gonna, we're probably gonna start our summer tour in Arizona. That's the goal. So, thank you, and you know what to do with this episode. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Go listen to a bunch of episodes we just talked about on this one episode. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 23:25  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 23:27  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Welcome back to the Longevity Muscle Podcast! Today we have 1995 WNBF Natural Pro Bodybuilding Overall World Champion & Mr. Universe Eddie Hernandez joining us! Timestamps0:49 Natural Pro Dwayne Broadway Introduction 1:54 1995 WNBF World Champion Eddie Hernandez 2:55 Eddie Hernandez vs. Kai Greene Showdown 3:49 Daily Routine of a Natural Bodybuilding Champion 4:40 Trainer, Teacher, and Coach – Eddie's Roles 5:11 Training 4-5 Days a Week at Age 61 5:38 Eddie's Stage Weight & Height in the 90s 6:37 Facing Natural Bodybuilding Legends 7:16 Who Inspired Eddie to Compete 10:27 Conditioning in 90s Natural Bodybuilding 11:07 The Bodybuilder Who Inspired Kai Greene 13:23 Kai Greene: Natural Genetic Anomaly? 14:19 Why Eddie Says Kai Greene Was a “Problem” 15:03 Top Natural Bodybuilding Earners 15:42 Why Eddie Retired from Competition 17:29 Training in the “Dungeon” Gym 17:51 Why Eddie Stayed Natural (Never IFBB) 18:21 NFL Tryouts: Cowboys & Giants 18:30 Why He Stopped Powerlifting 18:52 Why He Still Trains Like a Bodybuilder 19:21 Machines vs. Free Weights Pre-Contest 20:09 Eddie's Pre-World Championship Training Split 20:39 Dorian Yates Style Training for Naturals 22:23 Best Compound Lifts for Muscle Growth 23:27 Deadlifts: Are They Essential for Growth? 24:00 Ideal Rep Range to Maximize Muscle 24:16 One Regret from His Bodybuilding Career 25:24 Duration of Training Sessions 25:47 Injuries & Lessons Learned 26:25 The Serious Risks of Overtraining 29:49 Eddie's Current Training at Age 61 32:20 Natural Bodybuilding Today: Eddie's Take 33:33 Eddie's Diet as a World Champion 34:52 How Much Protein for Muscle Growth? 35:11 Eddie's Cardio Protocol for Shredding 36:00 90s Natural Pros Were Big & Tall 36:25 Fantasy Matchup: Eddie vs. Broadway 37:12 The Longevity Muscle Podcast Mission 38:05 First Ever Natural Pro World Champion 38:39 Duane Ball: Eddie's Training Partner 39:33 Jose Guzman: The Natural Ronnie Coleman 40:21 Mike Mentzer or Dorian Yates? 40:49 Eddie's Diet Now at 61 Years Old 41:26 Bernard Sealy Shoutout 42:30 90s vs. Modern Conditioning 43:54 Message to the New GenerationFollow us on IG:EddieKennyLongevity MuscleLongevity Muscle Magazine

In this heartfelt conversation, Lesley Logan sits down with Jose Acevedo of Finding Arizona to explore how he's spent the last ten years building a podcast rooted in storytelling, culture, and connection—without ever losing sight of the people who matter most. From learning to stay consistent through baby steps to collaborating with his wife and finding deeper meaning through fatherhood, Jose shares the real behind-the-scenes of growing a creative life that feels honest and whole.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How to stay consistent by breaking goals into small steps.Ways to protect your passion project from burnout.How to balance creative work with parenting and partnership.Why storytelling connects us to purpose and builds legacy.When to wait—and why not rushing your creative dream can keep it joyful.Episode References/Links:Finding Arizona Website - https://findingarizonapodcast.comFinding Arizona Podcast - https://beitpod.com/findingarizonaFinding Arizona YouTube - https://beitpod.com/findingarizonayoutubeBig Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert - https://a.co/d/1ze2Db3Guest Bio:Jose Acevedo is the host and creator of Finding Arizona, a podcast dedicated to spotlighting the people and businesses that make Arizona a vibrant, ever-evolving community. With over a decade of podcasting experience, Jose has interviewed hundreds of local entrepreneurs, creatives, and changemakers, capturing the heart of their stories through authentic, thoughtful conversation. His background in landscape architecture gives him a unique approach to storytelling—one rooted in structure, curiosity, and connection.What began as a solo passion project has since grown into a collaborative family endeavor. Alongside his wife and producer, Brittany Acevedo, Jose has transformed Finding Arizona into a full-fledged media brand. Together, they co-founded The Found House, a creative production studio offering podcast and video services to local businesses and aspiring creators. 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It's like, I love this thing. It makes me feel good. I get passion from, I get creativity from it and that was my motivation. That was it. It's like having the next conversation.Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:56  Hi, Be It babe. Okay, this was such a fun interview to do. I had the pleasure of meeting our guest and his wife when Brad and I were at this, we're invited to this thing that I'm gonna not, I'm not gonna lie, we're invited to this thing. You probably heard us talk about it back around the April, May time, and we're like, how do we get invited to do this? Like, what are we doing here? We're not even experts in this area, and we had to Be It Till We See It in that space in the moment, and that's when we met Jose and Britt and they're the podcast hosts of Finding Arizona. Brad and I had the pleasure of being on their podcast. Yes, Brad, that our Brad was on a podcast. You guys, he is a performer, and we hide him behind a camera, but we really shouldn't, because he's so amazing. So anyways, I am super excited for you to hear Jose and I talk about podcasting, about starting something new, so you don't have to, even you don't turn this off if you're like, I never run a podcast. I think it's really cool to hear how people come up with ideas and then see yourself in that story. So we talk about starting a podcast, what it's like to start something that we have no accountability around, we have to create it ourselves. So if you're someone who has a hard time with that, like, hearing the story, and then also, we talk a lot about goal setting and working with your partner and kiddos and what's next. So this is just a really, I feel like you probably are gonna feel like you're having coffee with Jose and I. So here is the host of Finding Arizona, Jose Acevedo. Lesley Logan 2:21  All right, Be It babe. This is fun. It's always fun for me when I get to talk to a fellow podcaster, but it's really fun when I really know that podcaster and we have a great story and we have a great vibe. Jose Acevedo, you are our guest today. You are the host of Finding Arizona. And, you guys, don't worry if you don't know where Arizona is, we're gonna talk more of than just Arizona today. But can you tell us who you are and what you rock at?Jose Acevedo 2:44  Yeah, my name is Jose Acevedo. I am a podcaster, and I'm also, like, a fan of you, Lesley. Thank you so much for having me, and I'm just again, I'm a true cheerleader for the locals here who are doing what they love to do their passion projects, everything in between, from nonprofit to high CEOs in the corporate areas. We want to get to know them, their story and how they come into the world, and how they journey across and make an effort to be a community member here in Arizona. Lesley Logan 3:14  So I feel like you are the greatest cheerleader, like you have curiosity. You're excited about what people are doing, and you want to share their stories, is that something that you went to school for, is that something you've always done? You don't even do in a podcast but everybody else's stuff, like, where did that come from? Jose Acevedo 3:29  Yeah, so I spent a bit of my life on the East Coast, and that's where my father and my mother took me to go really early on in my childhood to really kind of give me an opportunity. A. they wanted to get out of the heat of Arizona, but B. they wanted to move to other places where their children could learn and grow and kind of get a unique sense of the world. And then when I moved again for the second time, and this was a very significant point in my life, I was going away from being an adolescent to a kind of a teenager and into the kind of adulthood. And we moved back to my mom's Indian Reservation, and that is near the four corners here in Arizona. It's the Hopi Reservation, and I knew very little, to almost nothing, about my heritage and my Hopi culture. And so that was a very big, pivotal learning point about who I am as an individual, who I want to be as a man in the future. And the biggest kind of teacher in that was my grandfather, who was an elder in the community, who held a lot of stories, and who also really loved storytelling. And that was really kind of that moment of like, really crux of getting to understand what storytelling meant and what its importance was, what it can do for a society and a culture that has been on this earth for so long and has thrived just from hearing these stories and using that as a religion. And so for me, I had to very much dive deep into, you know, these different types of elements of storytelling, but how they also relate to my own life. And it was hard. It was definitely something very significant where I pushed back on it at points. I definitely had my moments of, like, teen angst and those types of things, but I also learned a lot about who I am and who my people are and what I want to give back into this world and give back into society and culture. So that was a really big point in my life, of like, learning about who I am and who my culture was. Then I came down to Phoenix and went to college, and really kind of stumbled upon podcasting as kind of this new wave of having a dialog and having conversation and actually storytelling to the masses, but also having these intimate conversations with individuals. So really, how it turned out to be what it is today is I was having conversations with business owners about their business through screen printing. I was screen printing T-shirts for these different owners, and I would just have a really fun time having these conversations and really getting to, like, go back and forth with them, getting to know them and what they're about and all these things. And they seem to really enjoy it. I'd get comments like, Oh, I really love this conversation. Thank you for having with me. Thank you for showing interest. Oh, you should be a news reporter, or you should be on the radio. All these types of compliments. And really, it dawned on me, when I was screen printing their shirts and listening to other podcasts that I'm like, really enjoying of like, oh, I should just do this. This has always been fun for me to listen to. I should at least attempt to do these conversations, to record them. So that that kind of snowballed into had to learn how to record, had to learn how to edit, had to learn how to do a website, how to like, upload them and just create this thing that I thought was cool that now has now become a big part of my life and a big part of my family's life. My wife got involved by meeting me, and I had to tell her, can't really go out on dates on weekends, because I'm doing this thing, recording and editing and all these things. And she was like, oh, I love podcasts. Let me listen to it. And so that has now turned into her becoming my producer. And now my son has just been born three years ago during the pandemic, and we were doing a lot of zoom calls, and now he knows that when Dada goes to work, it's like a lot of the times it's podcasting. So he's like, Dada, you go do podcasts? And it's just been really that thing that has affected me on a personal level, but me on a grander scale of legacy.Lesley Logan 7:45  I mean, and you've been doing this for 10 years, Finding Arizona, so like, y'all, we've been only podcasting for about three and a half years at this point. Podcasting has been around for a really long time, but so few people knew how to find the app on their phone and knew what it was and what I just, thank you for sharing the journey, because it's so cool you were already doing something, and then people were like, this is really cool you do this. And so you took it, and I, so many people are like, how did you come with this idea? How did you come with this idea? Y'all listen to what people are saying you're really great at, or complimenting you on, because that's what they think you're great at. And it becomes, it's so easy and natural for you, you don't see it as an opportunity or something that's unique, because it's natural to you. But what a cool gig. I love it. And also, the people are already coming to you. So you're like, what is this shirt for this automobile thing? How did they do it? I love that also, thank you for sharing your show about your grandfather. I think there's a book called Sapiens, and I didn't read the whole thing, you guys, it's really long. I kept it. I haven't given it away because I swear to pick it up. But what they say is that humans actually stayed in existence because of storytelling, and I do think that, you know, the Native Americans have really shown us that storytelling is really how we keep, we understand what happened in our past. We understand we're going to like, we understand things on a bigger level than just us as humans and I think it's so beautiful. So thank you for sharing all of that. Jose Acevedo 9:10  Of course.Lesley Logan 9:10  Okay, you had to learn all these things to be a podcaster. You all who are trying to make something new happen your life, whenever we say podcast and you can insert what you are doing, trying to be. What was it like having the first interview? Because you already were good at it, because you'd ask people question, but then you had to, like, hit record. Were you shaking in your boots? Did it feel easy? Did you re-record it? Tell us about it.Jose Acevedo 9:32  So I think you're absolutely right when it comes to these very, we had this conversation on my podcast and just off air, where I feel sometimes I'm like, I'm so nervous and flustered because I'm such a fan of people who come on our show, because we do research about these people, and we're like, oh, they're so cool. They're like, this and that. And so I get nervous just because I have this excitement about me. So yes, my very first episode where I said to myself, yes, I want to record. I want to do this. I want to make it a thing. I actually did it with my boss, like of the screen printing shop, because I felt like A. we had a great dynamic. We were just really fun and chit-chatty with each other. And B. I felt like all of his stories were so funny and so like, dynamic and filled with all of these intrigue and just the way he said things was just so funny to me. And it was, yeah, it was exciting to me to share what he was about. But again, it was like, so nerve wracking, because I didn't know if this was gonna work, or I didn't know if any of my equipment was done right, or if I was like, I'm just shooting myself in the foot. We might have to record and other things, and I was so nervous, and really I just wanted it to be a fun situation, which it was. It was so much fun, and I really look back on it, and was like, oh my gosh, so he was barely paying attention to he's working on other shirts. And I was like, having this conversation while we're interviewing. He was so great, though, because he could do that, and then still have the conversation and throw in the quits, throw in the bits, throw in the funny. Lesley Logan 11:05  It probably made him feel even more comfortable, because he wasn't like, sitting down and professionally recording.Jose Acevedo 11:10  Yeah, his thing. And it was just me saying, hey, can I record this? And then it turned into, I like the way that this felt. I like the feeling of it. I love, was it so great? That was like, did I think it was going to be this Pulitzer Prize winning interview thing? No, but I love the way it felt. I love the way it turned out. And I was like, maybe let's try it again, but let's sit down with someone who's not so busy. It's like someone who's like, a little bit more attentive and paying attention to me in my conversation with them, and it would just go from one client to the next, and I was like, oh, there's a way to like, then you start to pick out like, oh, there's a way to ask this question, or there's a way to steer them into this one area, or they draw their guard down when after the half hour mark. So I should get more personal questions towards the end there. And so if you really learn the dynamics of a conversation and through so much of doing it repetitively and doing the work over and over again.Lesley Logan 12:13  You, you know, that is true. It's also like you're never going to be 10 years version of you versus one year, like, you can't learn the 100 times experience until you've done it 100 times. Like, it's just got to happen. We have to have grace with ourselves. And also, it is true, the more you do it, the more you realize who are fun people to interview. What are the qualities? That person has a great story, but they're not a really good interview. So if we're having a hard time having a conversation, it's not going to go well. Versus, when do I ask the questions that are more personal, that do take more vulnerability? Some people, you know, when you podcast, a lot like we do, I can get vulnerable on an episode pretty early on, because I know what. I know that I can share. I know how it usually goes. But not everyone's like that. Some people are amazing experts, and they do a few podcasts. And so we have to kind of understand when the best time is to to bring things out. I want to know because you started this on your own, and you were also like, let me see how this goes. So how did you hold yourself accountable to releasing the episodes? Because the thing about anything is you have to be consistent, and especially at the time when podcasting wasn't really big, you know, how did you choose to be consistent with something you didn't know what it would be yet?Jose Acevedo 13:27  So, yeah, I, again, I think it goes back to, I think one of the early s tarts in my beginning was like goal setting, like, how do I want this to be a thing, or how do I want this to come out. And so one of the very first conversations that I had was, do I want this to be a weekly? Do I want this to be monthly? Do I want this to be a series? And, you know, how do I want to put out this series? And so I just really kind of more approached it from, uh, that kind of goal setting. Let's start off slow. Let's do it a monthly or let's, you know, I think it was monthly, in the very first beginning of, like, I'm going to have these deep conversations for more than an hour or an hour long, and really hone in on the individual and have those deep realm conversations. And then once I had a few underneath my belt, I really started to say, okay, I think I can push this even further. And, like, really, after the first year, I was like, okay, let's go to every two weeks, like a biweekly. Then it came to like, oh, I am really getting emails from a lot of places that wanted to be on the show or was showing interest. And I was like, okay, well, now I have a lot of interest. And I also, at that point, I started, you know, having someone follow, do the pictures and help me out a little bit. And so I was like, okay, I can do this. I can make this a weekly thing. And so I pushed myself even further to make it a weekly podcast and have these really fun conversations. And also, then we got to some really fun goal setting there, it was like, there was a month that was just filled with farmers, and when we started to really push the envelope on some of these ideas, and had some fun throughout the years that we've been doing it, what, how does this podcast work? Or how does it look like? What do people find interest in? Or what are some of the things that are really pushing the envelope of like how this community works here in Arizona or here in Phoenix particularly, so, it was really kind of listening to the audience, and also goal setting for myself is really what kept me going. And because I had such an intrigue on not only the people who were coming onto the podcast, but an intrigue in making this a business, I think it was kind of easier to say, okay, these are the goals. This is how I want to approach it. This is how I want it to come out. This is how I want it to be seen. And how do I make sure that I get these? Well, it's baby steps. Okay, first you get the yes from the person, then you schedule them, and then do the conversation, and then you set a date of, like, when they're going to come out. And then you make sure you edit in that time frame. It's those little baby steps that'll move you forward and move the the needle here and there. And so it was just, again, one part my my end of like, goal setting and listening to the audience. But two, make sure that you write down your goals and push yourself to reach those goals and make sure that it comes out. Lesley Logan 13:28  Yeah, I love that you mentioned the baby steps, because I think that's where people get a goal set. Then they don't break it down, the baby actions, and then it just feels overwhelming to do. And then they think they need motivation, which is the biggest lie, because that's inconsistent, so. Jose Acevedo 16:24  Yeah, my motivation was the podcast. I love this thing. It makes me feel good. I get passion from, I get creativity from it. And that was my motivation. That was it. It was like having the next conversation. Lesley Logan 16:55  So, do you podcast full time? This is your job now, or do you have other things to do? Jose Acevedo 16:59  I'll be honest. No, this isn't my full time gig, but it feels like a second job or more, but I'll be honest, I, when the pandemic hit, I was working with a landscape architecture firm, and that's what I went to school for, is landscape architecture, and I had a real choice, because we were getting a lot of intrigue in the podcast. But what happened was Brittany got pregnant, and it was the pandemic. She was actually coming out of a job in the healthcare system, and we were really worried, because she would hear horror stories from the healthcare about the pandemic and about people suffering through this thing. Lesley Logan 17:40  Or our healthcare workers were on the front line, and we didn't really have a lot of support for them. We still don't. That didn't change. Jose Acevedo 17:48  And so for me, I was like, oh man, I'm bringing this new life into the world. I need to figure out a way to make sure that he's healthy. And so I took a job at a bigger firm that would allow me to work from home and be with him, but also give me health insurance. And really, I like to say it's I'm not afraid to let go of that job right now to move into podcasting full time. But for the time being, my son is safe, my family's healthy, and we are still working consistently on this podcast, and I have, it hasn't worn on me. It hasn't made me feel tired. I just love what I do, and if I can do this continuously, the way that we have been, I'm okay with that. We're at that pivotal point too. It's like, which one of us is going to let go of their job to go full time with this podcast? And I don't know, we still have this conversation, and I'll be honest, like, all the time, like, who's going to do it? What are we going to do? And we just kind of look at each other and we're like, it's a good problem to have, yeah, but we're still at a standstill. We're still waiting. I think we have a goal set. I think that we have clientele, and once we reach that number of clientele that will allow us to let go of one of the jobs that we work, then we'll move into more full time. And I think that's a good, again, goal setting. Types of things where it's like baby steps, we have an actual number, and once we hit that, then that'll be the key to unlock the door of full time work. And working that podcast full time. Lesley Logan 19:22  Thank you. And also it's, here's the thing. These are all things we have to think about. It's really funny when people know that I'm on YouTube, they're like, oh, you must make so much on YouTube. I'm like, not everyone's it, a full time YouTuber. The amount of money I spend on the payroll to edit the YouTube is not how much I get paid from YouTube. I get paid. I get paid monthly. And I'm so grateful thank you for watching those views. Keep watching, but we glamorize things, and we think, oh, they're doing this. So it must be doing so. And yes, the ads you have, or content fees, or all the different appearances that could all bring an income, but you and I live currently in a place where healthcare isn't a given, and so unfortunately, someone has to have it. And, two, I'll just be really honest guys, someone has to have a W2 in a relationship, because if you both, like our, Brad and I, and you work for the company, no one wants to give you a loan. Like, the hoops. It took us 18 months to get our mortgage, 18 months we could to pay the bill we're already paying, you know. So I share that because it's frustrating. And if you're in that situation, we see you and we hear you, and it's the other thing that we talked about on your podcast, Finding Arizona, is putting pressure on something before it's ready can actually destroy it. Or Big Magic, have you read the book Big Magic? Jose Acevedo 20:36  No. I'm going to write this down. Lesley Logan 20:37  Oh, put it on your list, Elizabeth Gilbert, Eat, Pray, Love girl. So her book, Big Magic, I have read multiple times, and she says, ideas want to be born. So if you have an idea and you don't act on it, someone else will do it, which is why you're like, oh, I had that idea. Like, you didn't do anything about that, right? So there's that. But also, she says, if your idea is artistic, if it's creative and you try to live off of it before it is ready. You will filter, change, correct, make. You might even lower standards or make decisions based on the income you need at the time versus what the art was, the creativity, the vision, the goal was in the first place. So she shares she did not quit her job as a professor, even after she sold Eat, Pray, Love to movies. She really waited until she knew I can live off of me being Elizabeth Gilbert, the writer, and it's really awesome. And I really love that vulnerability, because there is a dream I have where I just get to interview people and go on retreats and, you know, teach my mentorship. But also got a mortgage to pay. I got retirement. Jose Acevedo 20:37  Yeah, you got to work towards it. Lesley Logan 20:37  Yeah. And we got retirement accounts we want to make sure, there's a lot going on. So you have to kind of balance like, am I playing small or am I playing it wise? It's a game of life. Am I making the right decision in this moment for where we want to go? Jose Acevedo 22:08  Yeah, and I feel the exact same way of you bring up this, this idea of baby steps, and I feel like that's where we kind of refocus a lot of the times on and not like we don't want it. It is about putting effort into everyday tasks or everyday things that allow us to move forward and move that needle to the point where we were like, yes, this is everything's pointing to. We can do this now, and we can transition and not feel like again the pressure is come solely on the creative part, the thing that we love doing, and now it has to hold us financially up. It's one of those things where it's like, and I brought this up on our party, it's like, that's what brings me most fears, because I've always loved doing this, and I don't want it to be like this martyr of like, it has to feed me, it has to, you know, pay my bills and all these things where that, when it was in the beginning, was just this fun conversation, this, this fun, light-hearted thing of like, tell me about yourself, tell me why, and to put pressure on it so much to the point where it's like the people ask us, why do you put yourself in a corner by just focusing on Arizona? Well, it's not putting yourself in a corner. It's actually this ever evolving thing that always changes, that always has newcomers, that always has someone. Lesley Logan 23:25  You are never gonna run out of content. Jose Acevedo 23:27  Yeah, never gonna run out of content. And so no, it's not that it's having passion for something that is ever evolving, and wanting to show light on that and give people a chance at the table and give them the mic to recruit for themselves, like advocate for themselves, and have joy for what they created, and all of these things. And I. Lesley Logan 23:45  I mean, you wouldn't run out of content if it was just finding Phoenix like you just wouldn't. And there's like, how many millions of people live in Arizona and then moving to Arizona and leave it like, there's always going to be new options for listeners. And I think don't ever let anyone tell you you niche down too much, because that's not even true. But I think what you guys could challenge yourself is like, what are the fears, and what would it look like if it did work? And then we'll set from there, because that's how, I like to work backwards. When the pandemic hit and we actually had to start from scratch-ish, we already had OPC. It was already in existence, but it wasn't paying our bills. What paid our bills was me touring the world and teaching in real life. So I was like, okay, if this has to pay our bills, how does that look like? What is it? What is it looking to put pressure on this, and how do we do it so we're not making compromises that are not, because what most people want is they want a Netflix option. They want to do Pilates whenever they want to do it. They want to have access to their old class whenever they want. But they don't, because they actually don't use it then. How long have you got whether you don't check one of your streaming accounts? And so there were values that I was like, no, this is hell. I'm going to die on this, because that's what makes us unique. Like you're like, no, we're Finding Arizona. We're not finding the US, like we're, or the southwest, or whatever the Sun Belt is, whatever they like to call us. You're not that. So, you know, I think there's things where like this is for sure never gonna change. We're never gonna do that. But what does that look like if it works? And what does working look like? And sometimes you're afraid to dream big because it is possible. It's so scary. So I don't wanna discount that. Brad and I, the only reason I can say that we lucked out is that we were forced in a pandemic to make it work, because it was like we had to pay our bills. We don't, we don't we work for ourselves. There is no one sending me any money for a paycheck to work from home. We have a great couple that we know, and seeing them thrive today is like really fun. We watched these two people doing the dream like they were performers. They both were headliners on The Strip. They had their dream home, and in the same week, both of their shows closed, and we were like, I'm so sorry, and they said this to us, and there was something that always sticks with me. They're like they were velvet handcuffs. And the idea of me going out and audition again, I just don't even want to do it. I'm most grateful that this happened, and he has, he went back to school. He changed his life. They're having a baby like they both have changed, transformed what their resume is and what they do on this planet. And it's cool how it can change, but it also, when you have a consistent paychecks coming in, it can, it's hard. It's hard. So. Jose Acevedo 24:00  I've heard this one individual. I can't even, I'm bad with names, but I'm always so invested in what people say and what their beliefs are. But it's like, I heard this saying, Do your life the nine to five, so that the five to nine is your, you know.Lesley Logan 26:32  Oh yeah. You work to live, not live to work. So you're like, your nine to five is only there to make sure that your five to nine is super cool.Jose Acevedo 26:39  Yeah and so that's where I'm at right now in life, and it's just really been great. And it's, I cannot tell you that it makes me feel good that A. I still have a passion for it, and B. it's building this legacy, not just for me, but for the little guy. In all honesty, fatherhood has changed a lot about how I see the world, how I perceive the world, and how I, you know, go about the world and it's joy when he says that I have fun doing a podcast is the best thing that I can say about what this means to me now, because it's just again, I want him to know that I'm a good dad, but I also want him to know that I'm a good person as well, because I care enough that I have these conversations with the people, because I don't want to feel like I don't love the world. I don't want to, I don't want him to think that you can't, you, you're, you need to be afraid of everyone. I want him to know that there are good people out there, and there's a community that will back him, and so hopefully down the road, he'll see a couple of the episodes and be like, my dad, I love him. He did a great job doing this.Lesley Logan 27:49  That's so beautiful. That's amazing, and it is interesting. We can see our life through the lens of someone else, because there's a lot of things that can weigh on us that actually have nothing to do with the big picture, but they feel very important. There are certain things that really make sure that they're like, I want to be heard and I want to be seen, that actually are not that big of a deal, and they're not part of the goals. But when the obstacle happens or the mess happens, they can feel like they're priority. And then you have this guy, his name's Atlas, right? Jose Acevedo 28:18  Yeah, his name's Atlas, yeah. Lesley Logan 28:19  Atlas go, did you have fun doing this thing that you love? And it's like, yeah, thank you for bringing me back down to earth and remind me what I do. That's so, it's so fun. It's so cute. Jose Acevedo 28:27  Yeah, it's just something about his joy of the world and life itself, it just brings me back to like, calm and steady. And again, it's like, fatherhood has changed me 100% from this, you know, I always felt like I was like, I'm so selfish. I'm like, I want so much for myself. Then he came into my world, and he's changed so much about me, and I want so much for him, and so much for him to see everything and give him a lot of the things that I didn't have as a child. But I understood, I understand now as an adult, my parents did the best that they could with everything that they had, and that is all I want to do for him. And if that means, you know, keep podcasting because it makes you happy, dad, then I'm going to keep doing that. And you know, there's a lot of things that it's just, again, they're not as important in hindsight right now, because I'm just really so glad that he's given me the opportunity to see the world and through his eyes and through his perspective, and want to just make it the happiest, joyous childhood ever. Lesley Logan 28:51  Oh, my goodness. And also, you're not sacrificing something you love because you think it will make that you're showing your son, you and Britt are both showing your child, like, you can do things that make you happy and you don't have to sacrifice the things you love to do that. I think it's really cool for them to grow up in a household where, like, yes, you have a nine to five, but also this other thing that makes you really happy, and you're dedicated to it, and you see it through. We had a guest on Episode Five, everyone. She said actions are caught, not taught. She's very aware that her kids are watching what she says about herself and what she does. I want to ask we don't have Britt here today, so unfortunately, we'll have to hang out with her another moment. But you work with your spouse on this podcast. Brad and I work together, and I'm sure you guys get all the time,. I don't know, I don't want to assume, but people are like, oh my God, tell me how you and Brad work together because I think I want to work with my partner. I find myself going, maybe don't do it. And I love working with my husband. But also, I'm particularly aware that it's not unicorn and glitter all the time. Jose Acevedo 30:38  Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Lesley Logan 30:39  So tell us how it came to be that Britt started working on the show and like, how do you two each share this incredible podcast together? How do you guys make it work?Jose Acevedo 30:50  Yeah, so we had this conversation too. It's like on my podcast, where it's I told you about how I met her through work and through working in a co-working office, and just again, being intimidated by someone of her stature at the time, she had her own business, and I was just working my first big boy job out of college, and really it was like I was interested in her, and she asked me for my WiFi password. We had these conversations. We were getting to know each other. And then I was like, I want to take you out on a date. I don't think I have the time during the weekend, and I'm kind of worried to tell you why. And she's like, why are you embarrassed? I'm like, I'm embarrassed because I have this podcast that keeps me very busy when I'm not working here on my job and she's like, oh, I love podcasts. So she binged the entirety of all my podcasts that weekend, and she was like, look, I love what you do. I think it's so interesting. Can I help you somehow? Is there some way I can help you take photos or something? I was like, that would be really great. That would be really awesome. And I would thank you so much. And if I pay you, like, let me. She's like, no, no, no. Just let me help you and you can teach me. And so I was like, she was interested in photography at the time. So she was like, okay, let's go do this first episode. And then actually turned into a date. It was really her way of showing interest in me and wanting to do this together. And she took photos the very first time as a date. And we, you know, had, it was luckily, at an ice cream shop, and it was this, like shaved ice. So she took photos. We ate and had dessert afterwards. And then it evolved into dating a lot. And she was being involved. She was helping me produce. She was helping me get clients, get people on the show. And then she came up with ideas on how to actually make this a business. And I took it to heart because she owned her own business. And we had these conversations before about like, how does Finding Arizona become more than just a podcast? How do we approach it in a business aspect? And I very much, I think, what is the best part about our relationship is I'm very open to her having a conversation with me. Communication, I think, is our best ability between the two of us. I think one, her vulnerability and empathetic nature to connect with me and wanting to share her ideas was the biggest part of how we grew together and how we emotionally stayed connected, but also really move forward in hard times, having being communicative and just communicating how we feel, how we think we should go about, you know, moving forward through a struggle or anything like that. I think that is the best way that we kind of came together and said, okay, this is how the business work. I showed her everything. I was like, this is how I do everything. Where do I go from here? Like, how do I go and move this forward? How do I make this a business? How do I, you know, do my taxes through this and all these things. And so she sat down with me. We've had this conversations on more than one occasion of these are the things that you need to have this business thrive. And so she was kind of teaching me and being my coach. And now we're, I'd like to say we're on the same page a lot of the times when it comes to what we should be providing. What we should be doing next. What are should be the next goal, baby step forward and communication. I think having those points in our relationship to A. talk about ourselves and talk about how we feel about each other, but B. talk about the business. So typically, we'll have, and this is kind of looking into the our relationship, at the end of the year, we'll have kind of this business conversation, but throughout the year we'll have personal conversations, go on dates, really try our best to talk about leave the business side and talk about A. our goals as parents and our goals as a couple, and really put that towards our date life, and then leave the business aspect for, you know, the quarterly stuff, the quarterly meetings and having those really hard conversations, like, how are we going to make money off of this? Or, how are we going to, you know, move forward into the next quarter of like business and how we, what events are we going to go to? Who are we connecting with? How are we even teaching ourselves new things so that we can add it to our repertoire of things that we provide for the podcast? So I think having a point of conversation with your significant other, and making sure you also separate some of those things, because it can get really murky if you bring in and she's trying to have a conversation about relationships, but you're trying to talk about the business. It's really separating those two entities, and I like to say Church and State sort of thing. But you know that sort of idea of like, we really try our best to have those date nights throughout the year and talk about our relationship, talk about who we are, talk about things that aren't, don't do anything with the podcast or business, and then leaving scheduled appointment dates of businessy talk and things like that. So it can be however you want to retrofit that, whether, if you want to talk more about the business, you know you want to have more dates, whatever it may be, but I think having those scheduled items is very vital to checking in, not only for yourself, but for your significant other, if you are working with them and making sure that you're what we say on the same page and moving forward together.Lesley Logan 36:46  Yeah, I think that's really, I love that you prioritize the relationship. Because I think if we prioritize the business goals, then it's really easy to forget why you're doing it and what it's for. And if you are someone who works for yourself, the business has to work for you, and otherwise you just created yourself a boss that's very demanding. So when we bought this house in Vegas, we sat down in April of 2020, we're like, well, what do we want for our lives? Forget the business. What do we want for our lives? Where do we want to live? Where do we want to work? What does our schedule look like? How much money do we make? How much does it cost to live the life we want to live? And then we went to the business and go, okay, the business has to support this life, as opposed to us supporting the business. And I think that that's really important. And so, yeah, you're right. However you want to retrofit that y'all is up to you, but make sure your personal goals are the priority. Because whether you work for yourself or you have a job, the job is there because it's helping. It gives you access to the things that you want. You know, there's this amazing book that I read so many years ago, and it's called, I want to say it's called sunny, it's like, not sunny side up, but it was like something like that. And it was not about whether you saw the glass half full or the glass half empty. You saw something in the glass. But one of the things that she said in there was about parking or driving away. The story was like, she's at brunch, and it was outdoors, and a car drove up, and the car was idling. It was pulled up to park, but it didn't turn off. It just idled, and over, she watched how, she stopped her conversation, and then how the whole area of the brunch stopped their conversation to look at like, what is this car doing? Because it makes everyone uneasy. What is this, what does this car do? Is it gonna go? Is it gonna stay? What's going on? And so the idea was, like, you need to park or drive away. And then she went into a story about a person who didn't love their job. It wasn't awesome when they actually looked for other jobs that they realized was, well, this job allows me to pay for the private school my kids are in. I get off work at a time that lets me spend time with them, lets me do this. And so she reframed the job that she had to this job may not be my dream job, but it provides me with the dream life I have. And we can get a little confused, and so I just want to go back to know what your goals are for your relationship or for your family or for yourself, if you're by yourself, and then the business goals have to reflect that.Jose Acevedo 39:05  I think I look back on the early part of our relationship, and I say to myself, I was embarrassed at the time because of the podcast just taking up so much time in my life. I look back at it now, I'm like, I was sort of embarrassed too, and I didn't address this personally because I didn't want it to take over her life as well, because I really wanted this thing to really be something, but I also didn't want it to take over her life and be, but she has shown me that it can provide us with an opportunity to, like, you, said, live the life that we want, and share so much of our own world of like she's made up these things of like the blog wouldn't be what it is today without her. The vlog is a combination of all of our videos, but it's like this way of sharing our family life with our fans, but also it's like this other thing, of like, it's home movies for our family who live far away from us that don't get a chance to see us a lot. So it's like this beautiful thing of sharing that with them, but also with our fans as well, and she's shown so much of how much she cares about this podcast and how much she cares about others that I'm still amazed by her. I'm still intimidated by her on so many of those factors. Because without her being in my corner, I don't think that I would be the person that I am today, but I also don't think the business would be where it's at today. And I thank her all the time, and I hope she knows this, but I think she is the cornerstone of what makes this podcast have a heart, and I think she's the best part of me. She's the best part of our family, and she's really, truly, this entity that I cannot describe any more than she is the heart of this business. Lesley Logan 41:07  Oh my gosh. Well, we have to let Britt, when she listens to this, have a moment to enjoy that lovely speech for her. So wanna take a brief break, and then we're gonna find out how people can find you and Finding Arizona, and all the things that you guys are doing together. Lesley Logan 41:19  Okay, Jose, you are like one of the most beautiful humans in the world. And I think everyone is hoping that their husband is telling someone that exact same speech that you just said about them, Finding Arizona, they can find it anywhere that they're listening to this podcast. But do they have to live in Arizona? Is this something they can enjoy if they're visiting Arizona? And also, what else do you and Britt have for our listeners?Jose Acevedo 41:41  Yeah. So this is available on all podcast platforms, of course, but we also have now video format to a lot of these episodes that we provide on YouTube. And on top of that, like I was discussing earlier in the podcast, we have a vlog that's a little bit of this family life. And what we do for the business, we go to events as well, meeting new people, networking, and we share that along with on the YouTube, we have a website that is available for a blog that gets a little bit more of what we've learned and found through the community and what we're passionate about, what we're intrigued by, that's a little bit more of the inside of our minds being put out into this, like, blog form, so that Britt puts that together. But it's, again, it's all of these things could be found at our website, findingarizonapodcast.com but also on our YouTube page, Finding Arizona podcast, you'll just search it, and you'll find us. You'll see us. We're big smiley people, and we always try our best to make sure that it's routinely updated and that you're constantly getting new items every week. And on top of that, I mean other events that we're going to on a very routine basis. You can catch us a lot of the community events throughout Phoenix. And we are also trying to do a little bit more of in-person 101 classes, teaching the kind of 101 of podcasting, Britt has done an event where she's speaking about it at a Phoenix Design Week. There are a couple of other events that I don't have it in front of me, but I wish I could give you some more information on, and I will actually send an email to you so you can provide that to the individuals. But there are a lot more events that we're going to be in-person for that you can catch us at, say hi and get a little bit more one-to-one action with us. And you will get to see Atlas, too. Atlas loves going on these little adventure excursions, and you'll see him in his little Finding Arizona shirt, and he's always down the clown, and he's a fun time.Lesley Logan 43:34  Oh my gosh, so fun. Yes, you guys should absolutely be teaching people about podcast and getting started, because you've been doing it for 10 years.Jose Acevedo 43:42  Yes and on top of all of those things that we do in person and all that, we actually just started this. And this is something of the service arm of what we provide in video production, audio production. We're calling it The Found House. And you can find it under our web page, The Found House over at findingarizonapodcast.com where you can actually, if you want to work with us, one-to-one and start your own podcast, we provide that option as well.Lesley Logan 44:08  Awesome. That is what we need. Thank you for doing that. Jose Acevedo 44:11  Yes, absolutely. Lesley Logan 44:12  Okay. You guys, all those links are, of course, in the show notes. And if you are wondering about how Finding Arizona podcast is, I was on it with Brad. Brad made an appearance. Holy moly, it's rare. So go listen. You get to hear the inside of his brain on all the things. Jose Acevedo 44:28  I love Brad, by the way. Lesley Logan 44:29  We love Brad. You know what? Here's the thing, everyone loves Brad. And whenever I go anywhere without Brad, they're just like, where's Brad? Where's Brad? So that's why he's not actually allowed to not be there. Because I'm like, am I chopped liver? So. Jose Acevedo 44:41  He's right over there. Go look. And that's sometimes how I feel about Britt and this is the crux of having parenthood be a part of what we do is should some of these events are late at night, and Atlas can't go to those. So one of us has to stay behind to do bedtime story time, and one of us has to go. And then it's if one of us goes, like, where's the other person? Lesley Logan 45:02  Yeah, where are they? What's going on? Well, I love that. It's like, okay, hi, but I'm right here. So you know, you have been such a gem already, but we love to end the episode with, Be It Action Items. Bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Jose Acevedo 45:17  I think it goes back to what we were talking about those baby goal routines set for yourselves. I think you should always try your best to set a big goal, but also make sure that you're taking those routine steps, or those small steps forward to allow yourself and your what your goal is to move to approach that. Take those tiny steps that you know are digestible, edible that you can do and make sure that you're reaching closer and closer, because if you look back on those little steps, you will actually see that you were providing yourself the opportunity to move forward. And one of the big things that I keep going back to, or at least what in our conversations, like life responds to effort. That's something that I heard, is life responds to effort. And you're not making an effort, you're not moving anywhere, you're stagnant. You have to make an effort. And whatever, it's those little things that matter and those little things that count to your goals. Lesley Logan 45:18  Oh, my God. Mic drop on that. That is brilliant. That is, rewind everyone, listen to that last, that was freaking amazing. Jose, Finding Arizona. Thank you for being you. Thank you for sharing your story. Give Britt some love from us. We're hopefully gonna see you guys, when we're in person in Arizona soon. Y'all, how are you gonna use these tips in your life? Tag Finding Arizona. Tag the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend. Share this with an Arizonian but also share this with someone who needs to hear that 10 years ago, it was baby steps and just showing up and being consistent, like we all need these inspirations in our lives and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 46:52  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 47:35  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 47:40  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 47:44  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 47:51  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 47:55  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

We're diving into how poor sleep is linked to poor egg quality. If you're struggling to fall asleep, waking up in the night, or getting out of bed feeling exhausted—this isn't just a sleep issue. It's a signal that your body is out of alignment, and for those navigating low AMH, DOR, POI, poor egg quality, or recurrent pregnancy loss, sleep disruptions can be a major red flag. In the Fab Fertile Method, we know that consistent, restful sleep plays a critical role in regulating hormones, supporting egg health, and optimizing fertility. But if you're constantly wired at bedtime, wide awake at 2 a.m., or dragging through the day despite 8 hours in bed—there's likely an underlying imbalance at play. In this episode, we dive into how sleep issues can be linked to blood sugar swings, adrenal dysfunction, inflammation, liver congestion, and more. And most importantly—we'll share the first steps to rebalance your body and reclaim the deep rest your fertility depends on. Sleep is not optional on the fertility journey. Let's uncover why your sleep is disrupted—and what to do about it. This episode is for you if: You have DOR, poor egg quality, or low AMH and struggle with waking up in the middle of the night, falling asleep, or feeling exhausted. You want to understand how hormonal imbalances, blood sugar issues, and stress impact both sleep and fertility. You're looking for functional medicine strategies, including the Fab Fertile Method, to improve sleep, support ovarian health, and enhance egg quality naturally. In this episode you'll learn: How blood sugar crashes disrupt your sleep and impact fertility by spiking cortisol and affecting hormone balance. Why adrenal dysfunction keeps you awake at night and sabotages progesterone production needed for conception. How gut imbalances and inflammation interfere with sleep and hormone production, affecting your fertility. Why liver congestion causes sleep disruptions and blocks detox, which is essential for healthy egg quality. How magnesium deficiency and hormonal imbalances impact both your sleep and your fertility, preventing you from reaching your full potential. --- RESOURCES "

Welcome Natties to episode 82 “We forgot the intro!” with our guest comedian Lucas Alvarez. Join us as we talk about Uncle Kyle trolling Magic Mike auditions, accidentally thinking Lucas is gay, Vegas comedy scene drama, wild LA parties and so much more! Remember to please like, comment and follow! Are you a part of THE Natty Nation? What are you waiting for?Natties we officially have MERCH! Support us and the podcast by ordering on our website www.thenaturalspod.com Thank you!SocialsLucas Alvarez: @lucasalvarezcomedyUncle Kyle/Pod: @thenaturalspodSweet Derek: @sweetderekproductionsEmail: sweetderekproductions@gmail.com

Lesley Logan reveals how a small but consistent shift in her nighttime routine helped her reclaim deep rest—without sacrificing joy. This inspiring Fuck Yeah Friday reminds us that progress doesn't come from doing more, but from honoring what we truly need. Tune in for a refreshing perspective on mindfulness, routines, and the unexpected power of rest. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:A compassionate approach to ethical consumer choices and boycotting.Why confidence is a gateway to new opportunities.The underestimated power of refining your systems.How Lesley's meditation practice transformed her sleep and stress.Why sustainable routines require experimentation—not perfection.Episode References/Links:Introduction - 00:47Ethical boycotting insight - 01:06Confidence after eLevate – 04:27Owning business growth – 05:18 Lesley's sleep breakthrough - 06:20This week's mantra - 08:11 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:·        Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g·        Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/·        Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/·        Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/·        Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ·        Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/ Follow Us on Social Media:·        Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/·        The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g·        Facebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilates·        LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/·        The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:47  Hello, Be It babe. How are you? Welcome to your Fuck Yeah Friday, where we are celebrating awesome things that people are doing, including yourself and myself and a mantra, and we're doing it short and sweet, so we can enter this weekend with some inspiration, like, what is possible in this life. It's not all bad, right? There's got to be some good stuff. So this inspired me. I thought I wanted to share it with you. I'm recording these in February, and so obviously a lot of people right now are talking about a lot of different boycotts that they're doing. So just want you to know if I mentioned any businesses that may have changed their ways, like, that's a delay, but do your research, okay? But what I wish someone told me before I started boycotting, and I want you to know I wanted to share this with you, because I think it can be really tricky. I'll share my wins, what's going on. So the first post that they said is, disclaimer, boycotting is a labor of love. Oh, and this post is a labor of love from an ex mega, M-E-G-A consumer, not telling anyone how to live. Just sharing what I've learned along this journey of redirecting resources. So she said, starting out, pace yourself, start with one area and give yourself grace. So the truth is, our consumption habits were carefully engineered over generations, so unlearning takes time. And by the way, this is from jnaydaily, jnaydaily. So if you are feeling the urge to boycott or maybe you thought about that two months ago, and here we are in April, and you still haven't figured it out, it's okay give yourself grace and pace yourself. And she says to start with one area, okay? Making choices, when facing a purchase, ask yourself, can I borrow this? Can I find it secondhand? Is there a local option? Can I DIY or use what I have, what's within my current capacity? So move through options based on your energy and circumstances. And I really love that, because can I be really honest, asking to borrow anything from anyone, it kind of makes me go. I don't know, but Brad borrows all the time, right? So, but can I find it secondhand? That's where you could search online to see if somebody is selling it used, right? Or is there a local option you could use? Because when you invest in local stores, it actually goes back into the community in a big way. So, can I make it myself? And then, obviously, making it yourself might not be something you can do, you know? So we currently have some lawn furniture that Brad was trying to, like DIY it, and, you know, it might get to the place where we have to use a local option. So capacity formula. So some of your boycott choices, best is to do local, ethical, DIY, secondhand. So anytime you're avoiding buying something, the best thing you could do is go local, ethical, DIY, secondhand. Better: Alternatives closer to home; Good: more mindful, mainstream choices; Basic: What's accessible right now. So, think net positive, not perfection. Every redirect matters. It gets easy with practice. And then food freedom. So, simplifying food and sourcing, so obviously you have to buy food. So I love this that she added this in here, because it's really easy to like, okay, I can buy a secondhand chair, but I can't just make an orange. So, focus on whole foods and seasonal produce. Explore international and local markets. Join a CSA and support local farmers in exchange for produce. You can go to localharvest.org for that. Find community gardens. You can go to communitygarden.org for that. Look for state-made products and learn how to make a few staples and trade with friends and neighbors. Is this not the coolest thing? I'm going to make sure that the team puts this post in the show notes. But I was inspired by this because at our house, we are working on the boycotts on some brands. And, you know, look, it's not that we'll never buy from them again, it's that we want them to be better. We want them to do better for us. We want them to do better for everyone, right? Want them to do better for their employees. So here we are in April. If there are still brands that you're like, hey, I want them to know that I vote with my dollars. You know, this is how you can start that out. So I hope that that was helpful. Lesley Logan 4:27  Okay, now for your wins. Nancy Lawrence, she's been to Cambodia with us. Oh my God. It's been so fun to see what she's been celebrating after an amazing Cambodia experience where she manifested all this stuff and she's an eLevate grad. She wrote, I have gotten hired at a Latina-owned Pilates studio in Arlington, Texas, Aris Pilates. I'm so excited to work with the Latino community and possibly teach in Espanol. Miranda, her daughter, will also be teaching there. They are thrilled to have me, and I'm so excited to get started. The confidence I have today as an eLevate alumni has opened so many doors for me, including the confidence to step out of my comfort zone and into new studios, because I know I have the appropriate training, which makes me a good teacher. I mean, girl like you were made for this, you know. And I think it is so cool that these women will get to learn amazing Pilates from you, and I'm glad that you have the confidence to go put yourself out there, because they need you. You're the only person who can do what you do the way that you do it. Lesley Logan 5:18  Katelyn Elser has a win for us. She is an Agency member. I'm really proud of this woman. She actually recently quit her full time gig to run her own home business, and she's looking at some other possibilities and growing really fast, because she just is believing in herself and she's doing the work. And so her win is, I launched small group classes, three to four per session at the beginning of January, and they have been a huge hit, with six sessions per week and seven new clients. Way to go, Katelyn. You know, here's the thing, do you hear how these wins are? They don't have to be huge. Katelyn's not something I've helped 600 people, no six to seven people. It's important that you hear that, because I'm not trying to make Katelyn's win small by any stretch of the imagination. What I'm trying to get you to understand is wins, we have to celebrate the things that we do. We have to actually acknowledge what we did. There's a lot of shit going on. And so if all you're focusing is all the things that are not going well, you are not going to have a happy life. And it's not that I'm talking about having a happy life like, oh, you know, I don't see the pain in the world. No, it's I can see that I'm doing these things to make an impact on this world in my way that I can. And so I love that, Katelyn, thank you so much for sharing it. Lesley Logan 6:20  All right, a win of mine. I have a solid morning routine. You know this about me. That's, you know, not an issue. But I have been reading a book with Brad that I absolutely love. We're in a big series, and if you know, you know. And one, the fourth and fifth book aren't going to come out for a long time, so I've been slowing down our roll on the third because once they're done, then we have to wait probably a year for the fourth book, right? But I have been having problems with it, because the book kind of stresses me out a little bit. I'm someone who kind of will Google the end so that I know what's coming up and I can have some certainty. And so one, I haven't done that, so there's a win. But two, I started getting nightmares when we finished the second book. I was the main character and Brad was the other main character, and I couldn't save him. Anyways, it was a whole thing. So I have been like, okay, we can only do one or two chapters. I've been ending things I don't let it go close to bed. So like, great. That was a win, just not letting us listen to it close to bedtime. But the other thing is, I was still having some of the stress dreams, and so I was like, oh, I just don't know what to do. I'm gonna need some sort of sleep. No, actually, I know what to do. I need to meditate before I go to bed. I need a palette cleanser, and it can't be the news. And so what I'm saying is, this week, every single night, I have made sure I've done some sort of meditative practice, and it is helping. It is helping. I'm not dreaming about the book in a stressful way. I somehow did dream about Schitt's Creek in a slightly stressful way, but my sleep scores are still amazing, and my readiness scores are still amazing. So the point is that it's working, and it's not about perfection. It's about being in process and trying to figure out, right now I'm in experimentation mode, like, what meditation do I need to go to bed with that actually gives the best sleep. And so I share that with you, because a morning routine is amazing, but a nighttime routine is also epically amazing. And so your win doesn't have to be like, you know, I hit 17 goals in my business today. Can be like I went to bed on time and I gave myself a meditation to help me have the best sleep in my life. You know, being it till you see it doesn't come from doing all the time. Sometimes it comes from not doing, right? Lesley Logan 8:11  All right. Your mantra for the day. Life is meant to be shared. Life is meant to be shared. Oh, it really is. So thank you everyone who sends your wins in because life is meant to be shared. Thank you for those who share this podcast because life is meant to be shared, and every single person who listens, when I hear your feedback, we're sharing this experience together, and it's kind of amazing. So thank you for bringing you. Thank you for listening to this podcast. Thanks for sharing it, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 8:45  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 9:28  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 9:33  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 9:37  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 9:43  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 9:47  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

What if your success was hiding your stress? Lesley and Brad break down the signs of high-functioning depression and how Dr. Judith's Five Vs can help you reclaim your joy. From burnout to anhedonia, this conversation offers real tools to track what actually makes you happy. It's a powerful reminder that joy is personal—and redefining happiness starts from the inside out. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How to recognize overlooked symptoms of high-functioning depression.Ways to measure and increase your personal joy points.The contagious nature of joy—and how to spread it.Daily practices that help you feel more present, centered, and fulfilled.Why reconnecting with your “I am” can ground you in who you truly are.Episode References/Links:April UK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukSpring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comContrology Reformer - https://opc.me/reformerContrology Mat - https://opc.me/foldingmatDr. Judith Joseph Website - https://drjudithjoseph.comHigh Functioning Book by Dr. Judith Joseph - https://a.co/d/9sFHkQWAnhedonia Quiz - https://drjudithjoseph.com/anhedoniaquiz If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:·        Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g·        Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/·        Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/·        Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/·        Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ·        Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/ Follow Us on Social Media:·        Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/·        The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g·        Facebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilates·        LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/·        The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  We have this idea, this preconceived idea, of what depression is, and that's not necessarily like the only way that depression looks, right?Lesley Logan 0:09  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:51  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig in to this validating convo I had in the last episode with Dr. Judith Joseph. Brad Crowell 0:59  Dr. Judith Joseph. Lesley Logan 1:00  So good. I clearly decided to start while Brad is still getting ready, and we're not going to worry about that because he has ADD, I have ADHD. We're just going with it. Okay? This is how two people making it work. Guys, how are you? I cannot believe this is episode 509, on the day that we're recording this, I'm gonna actually post and celebrate the episode 500 that like just happened. It came, it went. Life was going on. Because, you know, life, life's fucking life, guys. Lesley Logan 1:26  So today is April 10th and it's Consumer Awareness Week. Consumer Awareness Week takes place from April 10th to 16th this year. Oh, thank you. Brad Crowell 1:37  Ready to get started now, guys. Okay, here we go.Lesley Logan 1:37  This day aims to educate buyers and consumers about their basic rights. This includes access to information regarding the goods and products they are purchasing. The sellers are enforced by law to reveal the ingredients they are using in their products, and they also have to follow certain guidelines regarding quality and standard of the product of being sold. If any of the above stated rules are broken, the seller's answerable to the court of law. Yes, consumers are powerful and many laws have been passed to protect them from being exploited. Are you aware of all of your rights? If not, celebrate the week and find out all there is to know. So here's the deal, actually, really, really important. Depending on what state you live in, those who are in the States, you have different consumer buyer laws, depending which country you live in, like there's these different things. So definitely, if you don't know, you should absolutely do some research and do some Googling. But I also just want to say, like, we're recording this after several different weeks and days and months of like, exercising our consumers and power, and it is working. Like, have you seen how much it's working? Like, I don't shop at Target, but I've been part of the not shopping at Target. Like, you know, there's a couple things we need, I was like, not getting it there. My poor assistant was like, so where are we getting these things? And I'm like, oh, here's an art store you can go get them at, and they're $1 more, and it's gonna be fine. So Target's less, like, $15 billion the last time I checked, $15 billion, $15 billion, you guys, this is great news. I don't want anyone to lose their jobs, none of that kind of stuff. But also, like, we have to tell these people who is in charge here, so. Brad Crowell 3:04  Yeah, it's actually really difficult right now, especially in the States, with people taking a wrecking ball to the things that that actually hold companies accountable, such as the FTC and their Consumer Protection Bureau. So there are literally laws that are supposed to protect us, and right now, there are people in power who are trying to give companies back the power to do anything that they choose, and that is going to eventually affect every single person, not just in the United States, but if you're buying products that were made in the United States and you're overseas, they might not be made with the same kind of qualities that, you know, they need to be, so. Lesley Logan 3:45  So here's the thing, even if you feel like you have no rights or voice, your dollar has power wherever you live in this world. And so where you spend that money does matter. And I get it like we have been in places in the States where I'm like, okay, so this is the only place we can shop right now. This is the only place to go. So, you know, don't, please, don't starve. Please don't, like, go without, but like, if you can spend an extra dollar and go to a different store, go support small businesses. Go support women-owned businesses. Go support people of color businesses. Like, I promise you, you'll feel so much freaking better. You'll just feel better. Like, it felt good to be like, oh, we're gonna, look at this place over here that has exactly what we need.Brad Crowell 4:18  I mean, slash or I'm just buying less stuff because I'm like, oh, I need to buy that thing and what would be my normal thing would be, go to Amazon and just order the thing. Lesley Logan 4:26  You know, in one of the FYFs, I actually told people how they can boycott like in a way that like helps them. So if you haven't ever listened to FYFs, I'm adding like things in it that inspire me, plus your wins, plus my wins, and they're still under 15 minutes. And I actually did do it. It's really fun. Okay. Brad Crowell 4:41  Cool. Cut me off. So what I was actually gonna finish saying there is that, you know, I'm actually buying less stuff because my natural inclination is to just go to Amazon and then to just order it, right? But now I'm like, okay, well, if I'm not ordering from Amazon, or if I'm not ordering from Target, or if I'm not ordering from Walmart, you know, then where am I going to get this? And now there's more effort to go figure that out, and probably requires a trip to the store, which I don't really have the time and the schedule to just go do that. So the convenience is, is definitely something that we're trading. But also my pocketbook thanks me, because did I really need to buy that thing. Chances are it's 50-50.Lesley Logan 5:23  Yeah, yeah. Well, in the FYF episode, I actually explained it, you could also borrow it if you need to, like, if you really need it, but you don't need it forever, you could just borrow it, right? So anyways, we have to keep going. So know your rights. Consumers all around the world do some research. This will actually make you it'll make the companies that you work with even better because of it. Brad Crowell 5:40  Yep. Lesley Logan 5:41  Okay, we just literally wrapped up the eLevate retreat. So that's a retreat at our house for those who graduated the eLevate program. And we also had just wrapped the reformer weekend for eLevate round five, which is super, super fun. If you're interested as a teacher in eLevate, you can apply for 2026's program, and then that way you could come to 2027's retreat, because the retreat is for the grads, and it's really special. I guess, don't you love it? I love it. I love having the people here. I love having all the different years of grads here. I love being able to see them in person. So it was absolutely fabulous.Brad Crowell 6:14  It's a good time. It's a good time. People are amazing, and it's, what's been really fun is to see the incredible sense of community created even across different groups of grads. So year one, year two, year three, etc, etc, where, where they're intentionally building community, and they're part of this really amazing group. So it's been fun to see that from our perspective, for sure. Lesley Logan 6:38  Yeah. And then also, last week, we actually opened up the registration for the UK tour, the Mullet Tour. Brad Crowell 6:41  The Mullet Tour. Lesley Logan 6:41  So, you guys, if you are in Europe or the UK, or you want to fly there, we're going to be there this September. Brad Crowell 6:52  Yeah, we're going to be there in September. And what is a Mullet Tour, Les? Lesley Logan 6:55  Business in the morning, Pilates in the evening. That's how it goes. Business in the front, party in the back, business in the morning, Pilates in the back, in the evening. No? Brad Crowell 7:05  Well, sort of. You just mixed a whole bunch of things, but it's business in the front, Pilates in the back.Lesley Logan 7:12  Right, but it's in the morning and then the Pilates is in the evening. Brad Crowell 7:15  Yeah, okay, we're gonna go with that. Lesley Logan 7:17  Well, that's what the Mullet Tour is. It's our second event. It's not annual, because we skipped a couple years. So I don't know the next time we'll be in the UK. I'll be really honest. We're already booking 2026 stuff, and 2027 we just got booked for something potentially so like this might be it, UK, for a couple, for a little bit, so. Brad Crowell 7:35  For a bunch of years. Lesley Logan 7:37  Yeah. So get in. Brad Crowell 7:38  Do it. Make sure you're paying attention. Lesley Logan 7:41  If you understand how the UK works, the studios are quite small, so space is limited, opc.me/uk is where you can get that information. You can come to workshops. You can come to classes. Obviously, the deal is in there. If you get all the good stuff for the Mullet, the whole Mullet, you need the whole Mullet to get the deal. Also coming up. Brad Crowell 7:57  You need to show up with a mullet or you can't come. Just kidding. Don't do that.Lesley Logan 8:02  (inaudible) on a lot of people. So don't do it. All right. April and this month that we're in right now, towards the very end, it is Spring Training. What is Spring Training? Well, there's the baseball people's doing spring training, and it's our version, and it's a week of Pilates classes with the OPC teachers and myself, mat classes, reformer classes, chair classes, tower classes. You can get the mat only ticket, or you can get the full spring training pass. It's a freaking great deal. If you go to opc.me/events, you'll hear about it as an early bird, which means you'll get a better price than anyone else. Brad Crowell 8:35  Yeah, get yourself on the wait list. Lesley Logan 8:36  You don't have to be a teacher. You can be someone who's just been doing Pilates. You can also be someone who's like, pie-curious, and you're like, I don't know. Maybe this is time. It's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm just gonna say we have uniforms. The dog has a uniform, everything. Brad Crowell 8:37  It's gonna be great. In fact, there's a theme to this one. It's all about the push ups. Lesley Logan 8:54  Oh yes. Brad Crowell 8:55  So this is our first annual spring training. We do want to do this every single year, but that will depend on you, gotta show up. Lesley Logan 9:03  We wouldn't do push ups next year. And also, if you would, ah, push ups, it means you have to sign up.Brad Crowell 9:08  That's right. Lesley Logan 9:08  It means you have to sign up. Brad Crowell 9:09  It's intentional. All right, cool. So that kicks off at the end of April. So go to opc.me/events right now, so you can get on the waitlist where you're actually gonna get that early bird offer. Only the people on the waitlist get the early bird offer. If you are a Pilates business owner in any way, meaning you are taking clients and getting paid by anybody, then I want you to come to my free Pilates business webinar. It's called the Growth Accelerator, and it's going to help you, whether you have a studio or home studio, or you're taking clients in the park. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator, and we're going to be talking about the three biggest secrets that Lesley and I have learned over the past 2500 clients we've coached. We're going to share those things with you, and it is awesome, actually. It's really been a great experience so far, doing this on a consistent basis, and we want you to join us. Lastly. Lesley Logan 10:01  Lastly, we're going to Cambodia this fall. Brad Crowell 10:05  Yep, October. Lesley Logan 10:06  Yeah and people are like, oh, I want the 2026 dates. And I have to say, we have a tentative date, but we are waiting on some news. Brad Crowell 10:11  We are waiting on a couple of other things to fall into place before we can confirm the 2026 dates. But here's what we can tell you, we're only going once in 2026, this year '25, we were able to go twice, next year because we're traveling to Europe at the beginning part of the year, we can only go to Cambodia one time. Lesley Logan 10:27  And so we want you to come this time. Brad Crowell 10:29  Don't wait, like, a year and a half from now to do this. Lesley Logan 10:31  No, I mean, like, things will just be, your life is not going to get less busy. Brad Crowell 10:35  It's true. It's very true. Lesley Logan 10:37  Like, just like, when does that ever happen? So, so you're going to go to crowsnestretreats.com and snag your spot. Brad Crowell 10:43  Yep, crowsnestretreats. Lesley Logan 10:45  Only a few spots. Go grab yours. Okay. Brad Crowell 10:48  crowsnestretreats.comLesley Logan 10:50  Yes, do that. Okay, we have to talk about Dr. Judith Joseph, but first we have a few audience member questions. Audience questions to answer. Brad Crowell 10:58  We do. This is interesting. We've had a bunch of questions come in recently about types of equipment and models and brands and all those kinds of things. So I'm just gonna quickly zip down them, @JohnLanningQ7B on YouTube, asks, hey, my wife is looking for a machine currently. What brand model is yours, Specifically? He was referencing a reformer video, @Finaloadonell3419 on YouTube asks, where can I buy a mat like you're using? And @marilynhighness4234 on YouTube also asks, hello, thanks for this great workout. May I ask where can I get this Pilates mat with handles and a strap? Thank you so much. Lesley Logan 11:35  Yes. Okay, so John, my reformer is a Contrology Reformer. I like the 80-inch. It's really amazing. Prefer it to anything longer, unless your wife is over six-four, that's what I would get. And I like calling a machine myself as well. I think it's really cool. Also, it makes it feel like that's why it's expensive. It's a machine. I buy it. So that's what I use. Brad Crowell 11:57  You can go to opc.me/reformer and you can literally get a link to the one that Lesley uses. Lesley Logan 12:03  There's a little discount on it too. Then for my mat lovers, I use the Contrology Mat. That's the mat with the handles. I prefer the Contrology Mat to all the other brands out there. Yes, I've tried most of them all, and the rest are too squishy, way too squishy. And after just teaching the reformer weekend and then having the mat weekend eLevators, every single different teacher who was on my equipment was able to be like, oh, this, this is what is happening, right? Like, this is what, like, this is why I'm not connecting when I think I'm connected, because most people are on too squishy of apparatus. And so if you're a tight person, the squish, kind of like fills in the gaps, and if you're a hyper mobile person. you kind of like, fold into the squish. So you want to get the Contrology Mat and. Brad Crowell 12:47  Just fold in the squish. Lesley Logan 12:48  You fold in the squish. Brad Crowell 12:49  Just fold it in. Lesley Logan 12:50  Just fold it in. Brad Crowell 12:50  Fold it in. Lesley Logan 12:51  Yeah. So opc.me/mat gets you the discount link for the mat, if those for whatever reason, don't show a discount at checkout, then just hit me up and with your email and I will connect you to a person. So that was all the questions, right? I answered them. Brad Crowell 13:05  Yeah, you got all three. Lesley Logan 13:06  Yeah. I'm a cool, I'm a Contrology demo center. So I think it's really important that you know I'm freaking biased. However, that being said, my bias does not come from me not having explored all the equipment or having other brands. I have actually just sold them because I prefer the Contrology I really think that they have a great thing going on there, and their customer service is really helpful if anything goes wrong. So I, not that that does happen. But you know, like, shippers, things like, you gotta just, you want to have build up relationship. And I really love Balanced Body, and Jay worked with them closely on the Contrology line and you know how much I love Jay, by the way, the day that we're recording, this is his birthday. Brad Crowell 13:40  What? Lesley Logan 13:41  It's his birthday today. Brad Crowell 13:42  Come on, I didn't know that. Lesley Logan 13:43  Yeah, we did. Last year, we actually celebrated his birthday with him.Brad Crowell 13:48  Well, I didn't, yeah, okay, cool. I'm not remembering last March 25th.Lesley Logan 13:52  Happy Birthday, Jay. And he hates it. Brad Crowell 13:55  Happy Birthday, Jay. Lesley Logan 13:55  He hates right now that we're doing any of this. Okay, well, now go get your Contrology stuff, and if you have questions about any of it, you can just DM me. I will happily answer. I love talking about equipment and making sure you get the right stuff for you and what your practice is. And you know, somebody else was like, hey, I'm thinking of getting a folding reformer instead of a mat and spine corrector. And I was actually able to talk about, like, why there is a classical reformer that folds. I have not personally experienced it. It is not cheaper than a regular reformer. It just happens to fold up. And when I'm in Chicago this fall, I'll get to kind of explore it with someone who is in my program who has access to a Contrology Reformer, and that one so I can give you more comparisons, but like, it doesn't become cheaper, it just becomes foldable. Anyways. Brad Crowell 14:38  I just want to give you guys a quick update. The actual link for the mat is opc.me/foldingmat, folding mat. Lesley Logan 14:45  Folding mat. Brad Crowell 14:47  Folding mat. Because you're gonna fold in the mat.Lesley Logan 14:49  Fold in the mat. All right. The wheels have come off this bus. We have to take a brief break, and then we're gonna come back and talk about Dr. Judith Joseph.Brad Crowell 14:56  Stick around. Brad Crowell 14:59  Welcome back. All right, let's talk about Dr. Judith Joseph. Dr. Judith Joseph, MD, MBA is a board certified psychiatrist, researcher and passionate mental health advocate, recognized in the 2023 Congress Proclamation Award, with that award. She's dedicated to making mental health conversations more accessible through groundbreaking research and social media. In her book, High Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy, Dr. Joseph helps readers identify hidden depression and discover the unique science behind their own happiness. And I'm really excited to dig in, because there's a ton to learn in last episode. Lesley Logan 15:37  I learned so much. I mean, this was like I got turned on to this guest because we have a different guest. We had on about anahandria. And I was like, okay, this is the first time I've heard this word. I'm very interested. And so then a friend of mine who listens to the pod. Brad Crowell 15:52  What it? What is it? Lesley Logan 15:53  Anahandria.Brad Crowell 15:54  No, anhedonia. Lesley Logan 15:56  Anhedonia. Brad Crowell 15:58  Yeah. Lesley Logan 15:58  Anhedonia. Brad Crowell 15:59  Anhedonia, A-N-H-E-D-O-N-I-A anhedonia. Lesley Logan 16:03  Yeah, guys, I'm a little dyslexic. Anyways, so, but I had been turned on to this person, and I did some research. I like, went down the rabbit hole of her, and I was like, oh, I really love that we have another person's voice on this. And also, like, a book that's coming, that's out on this. And so first of all, there's so much in the episode, you must go back and listen to it. Also you have to grab her book, ladies, I think it's gonna be amazing for you to give to your friend. But she said, there's a, there are tons of people out there who have the symptoms of a depression but are still functioning and over-functioning because they are the rock and I think a lot of people listening, I mean, if you didn't feel so seen and so heard during this episode, like you, there's not a time for you to be depressed. Brad Crowell 16:46  Yeah, who's, who's the rock, like, you know the person who keeps the family together, or the person who, you know, you could be the breadwinner, or. Lesley Logan 16:55  You might not even be the breadwinner, but you're, you're the like, you might bring money to the family, but like, you're the person who gets them on the bus. You're the person who gets every like, if you take a day off, there's no groceries for dinner, like you're the rock, like you're the. Brad Crowell 17:09  Teacher, doctor, boss person, you know, whatever. Lesley Logan 17:11  But also, like you could be working at a place, and especially now with everything's going on, you could feel like, if you stop, they'll just replace you, and then you have nothing to go back to, and that's gonna even be more depressing and more so you are just like over. Brad Crowell 17:26  You're not allowed to stop, you're not allowed to fall apart, no way. Lesley Logan 17:28  So you keep it all together, but you're actually like, not happy, and the things that used to make you happy don't make you happy anymore.Brad Crowell 17:35  We have this idea, this preconceived idea, of what depression is, and that's not necessarily like, the only way that depression looks, right? Depression certainly can look like that, but also it, we might not realize that we're depressed because we think, well, I'm out there kicking ass and taking names everyday.Lesley Logan 17:53  I get up, I got, I've showered, I wash my hair, so I can't be depressed because I got dressed and I'm actually doing great at work.Brad Crowell 18:00  Yeah, and, and, you know, I think, I think there's something specific that you said about it, that you said, I'm going through the motions. There's no joy in it, you know. And I think she really responded to that. She, like, lit up. She's like, yes, that's exactly, that's exactly it like, you know, it's absolutely possible to still be doing all the things, but when there's no joy in any of it, that's like, can also be depression, right? Lesley Logan 18:29  Yeah. And I just want to add, before, I want to say, like, she said, not only over time does it wear on you, but it can feel like you don't have anywhere to turn to. Because if you go to the regular medical world, they're gonna be like, here, you look fine, right now, you know so, and my girlfriend is a social worker, and she was trained that people would be coming and looking for medication. So, like, she's like, Lesley, people probably needed it, but they're like, they looked clean. They looked like they got, they got them, like, all the things there. And so I think, like, it's just important to know that these different things are out there, and you might be experiencing them, and you might actually have to be advocating for yourself around these things. So I don't know, I just, this blew my mind.Brad Crowell 19:10  Yeah, and, you know the joy, the element of joy missing, I thought that was intriguing, but, but the other thing that I that like, really blew me away was it seems quite logical to me that we say my biology is different than your biology, so the food that I need is different than the food that you need. I know that they custom-make nutrition plans for the astronauts, they all have a different custom nutrition plan because their bodies function differently. Here's what I never took that to the next step and realized happiness doesn't look the same for everybody either, right? So we have this concept of like, well, do this thing to be happy. Well, that might make you happy, but it doesn't necessarily make me happy. And now that I'm saying it out loud, it sounds very logical, but I never thought about it. And when Dr. Judith said that, she said your happiness is not the same as my happiness. There's a lot of people out there trying all these different things, but it's not working for them. That's because they're basing it off of the science of somebody else's happiness. And she mentioned that, this was also, I found really interesting, so the definition of anhedonia was that, basically you're missing the joy, right? And there's more to it, but I'm forgetting it off the top of my head. But she said it's actually contagious, right? So if you work in a high stress environment, I'm putting that in air quotes, right, I used to work in a place like this, where it was stressful for no fucking reason, right? It was stressful. Why? Because the boss, that's how he felt like a good company's run, right? And so he would make arbitrary deadlines that had literally no reason. This has to be done by tomorrow. Why? Why? What's happening tomorrow? We just have to get it done by tomorrow, right? And it was like this manufactured stress, and it created this, like, high, this frenzy, this high, high, strong atmosphere, right? And that is contagious. And she said, but guess what? So is joy. Joy is also contagious, right? And I thought this is really interesting, because I've, I operated in this high stress environment for like, six years, and you know, people would come in and they would say, how do you do this? And I'd say, I don't know. I just do it, right, but it's probably because I was conditioned to do it. Well, interestingly enough, I think we can also flip that and condition ourselves to find joy, to be in joy, you know? And she said, when you start to shift inside, people are going to notice it in you. You have something that they want, and they're going to start gravitating towards you. Yeah, I, I really appreciated all this. And she said, she said, how do you know what happiness is for you? She said, there's a lot of science under it. Well, first off, she has a quiz about anhedonia, right? And I think that's, that's like a great. Lesley Logan 21:59  I love that quiz. Brad Crowell 22:00  It's a great jumping off point. We're gonna put the quiz in the show notes. The link to the quiz in the show notes.Lesley Logan 22:05  It's only 17 questions, and it takes two minutes. Brad Crowell 22:08  Yeah, it's a self-assessment tool for self-reflection, right, and it allows you to understand, like, yeah, am I finding the joy, you know, in my life? And then from there, she's got tons of resources. She obviously is the reason that the timing is really great here, because her book is just coming out right now, and she has a book called, it's called High Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy. Lesley Logan 22:36  You guys, you can pre-order it today and if it's available by the time, but, here's the thing, if you, like, I think this is the type of book that needs to be on the New York Times bestseller list, because we, the more people know about this, the more we can change the contagion. Brad Crowell 22:51  Yeah, so HFD is what it's about, right? High Functioning Depression. And she says, hey, look, it's not like an official diagnosis. You couldn't go to the doctor and get diagnosed as HFD. But I think that that's like comma yet, because her research is started, is effectively what she's trying to understand is, you know, like, you know, can this be something that can be diagnosed? Because people are experiencing these, these feelings, and they are, they are experiencing depression, even though they're, you know, high functioning. So, very interesting research. Lesley Logan 23:27  And also, I recently got added to the DSM at some point, because this, I was in high school, and the DSM was like a three so, like, we find things out and we add it in. So I. Brad Crowell 23:35  I don't know what a DSM is. Lesley Logan 23:37  Oh, it's this, it's like an encyclopedia for mental health stuff. So, like, it's where every doctor goes when it comes to, like, like your.Brad Crowell 23:44  Diagnosis of Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.Lesley Logan 23:47  Yes, yes. So when I was in high school, I remember it being, like, three, maybe, maybe it was a four already. But I remember being, I remember my teacher specifically saying, do you see how there's a three? It means there was a two and a one, and that means that like, as they, as we learn more, we add more and like, I think the more, I think it's really, not that we should label everything, but I do think when you have a label for what you're going through, you feel less alone, and you have an understanding of, like, how to operate, to get back to where you want to be. I just think that's how, that's how it works.Brad Crowell 24:23  Yeah. And I, you know, I do want to say, obviously, Lesley and I are not psychiatrists, but Dr. Judith is, so, you know, that's, that's a really great place to get started.Lesley Logan 24:32  If this is your first episode, and you were thinking you were listening to two psychiatrists. I'm so sorry to disappoint you. We are two people who talk to a lot of smart people.Brad Crowell 24:40  All right, well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into those, Be It Action Items that you covered with Dr. Judith Joseph and they're pretty, they're pretty fire y'all. We're gonna dig into the Five Vs. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 24:53  All right. Welcome back. Let's get into these Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Dr. Judith, Joseph? I'm gonna go first here. She talked about practicing the Five Vs to reconnect yourself. And this, I had to go back and listen to this, like, two or three times, because she also talked about, like a overlapping Venn Diagram, and then, and then, like, the conversation just went a different direction. And we never finished that thought. And I was like, where is it? But we did cover the Five Vs. So the Five Vs, and she writes about them in depth in her new book, are Validation, Venting, Values, Vitals and Vision. She said they can really help you understand the science of your happiness and increasing those little points of joy every day. And what she means by that is, when you're doing research, you often create points, right? You like, like, if this happens, you get this many points. If that happens, you get this many points. If this happens, you lose points, whatever. They're points. It's a point-based system. And she said, so her tools help you evaluate your happiness in a, in a scientific way, you know, so and she uses these Five Vs to reconnect with herself. So what I was saying, I would start with her quiz. I'm sure part of the quiz is going to be going through these Five Vs, or at least that's in her book, and that'll help you start to figure out, like, you know, where are you on this? You know, are you? Are you? Do you have HFD, right? The High Functioning Depression. She says, Start with one or two. Don't, don't start with all five. Lesley Logan 26:24  Be It babes, you do not get to start with all five. You just start with one or two. That's what the doctor said.Brad Crowell 26:29  Okay, so pick one or two, tap into it. Don't overwhelm yourself. Validation and venting are great places to start. And so check in daily, and track your joy. So check in daily, and track your validation and venting and then she has the Anhedonia Scale to measure whether or not you are getting points of joy in life. So that Anhedonia Scale, we're going to link to that in the show notes as well, so that you have a quick link to go find this information. But, but this is great. I mean for, especially, for those of you who are a one woo person like me, having a systematic approach to measuring something as amorphous as happiness is very helpful. It helps, clarify things. So what about you?Lesley Logan 27:22  Well, I was just thinking about how the longer life is going the way it's going where we are, I might become a two woo. I might just go all in on the second woo. That doesn't mean I'm I'm not, I'm not for Dr. Judith. I'm just, just saying it right now, if you hear me say I'm a two woo girl, you know why.Brad Crowell 27:39  Heard it here first, people.Lesley Logan 27:40  Heard it here first. So the other part of her Be It Action Items that I really love was she said she was talking about Deepak Chopra meditation and like, how we can get caught up in, like, I'm a Pilates instructor, I'm a mom, I am this. And like, when you even say your name, your name can represent a lot of different things that you're known for, or what people think you are known for, or whatever it is. And so she suggested you do what he said, which is like, lose your name and just say I am, I am, and you can repeat I am. And what it does is it really helps you become present in just being a human, in your experience that day. And that is like just being right, like we forget to just kind of be in our bodies, which is really, really cool, and you get to have that self-reflection. So, and I think it's easy to forget who we are or like or think of ourselves as, like, having all these different compartments, and then forgetting, like, why are we doing all the things we're doing? What is all this for? You know, and I really like when I lead a breath work session. I'll ask the people, like in agency, I'll ask them, like, okay, like, if you need more energy from others, put your palms up. And if you need more energy, if you want to actually keep the energy you have, you don't want any more from anyone else, put your palms down. And I actually, like, sit there and I ask myself, like, I notice I ask myself the same question, like, do I need more from others? Do I need this? So, like, being able to be present is really helpful and understanding like what we need and who we are and where the joy is coming from. So you guys, I was blown away. I'm blown away by Dr. Judith Joseph, and I am so grateful that she was on the pod. We get to say we knew her when this book goes on the bestseller list and the HFD becomes something that we all can actually like, you know, find easily if we need it. And so go, go check her out, go get her book. And I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 28:10  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 29:28  Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you for being part of 509 episodes. Brad Crowell 29:33  What? Lesley Logan 29:34  What? When I say we can't do it without you, it is actually not just written down. It's like, truly, truly, if you don't listen, we can't make these. It's not cheap. It's free for you, not for us. So we, we truly are so grateful that you share these episodes, that you come, you tell us what your favorite ones are, that you tell us what your feedback is, like, it really means a lot to us. So please share this with a friend who needs it. Share this with a friend who you might think has HFD so that they can, like, go listen and take the quiz themselves, because remember, joy is contagious. Brad Crowell 30:02  Joy is contagious. Lesley Logan 30:03  Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 30:05  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 30:07  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. 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Psychiatrist and author Dr. Judith Joseph joins Lesley to unpack "high-functioning depression," a hidden struggle affecting many high achievers who seem successful externally yet feel emotionally exhausted inside. Discover why driven individuals often overlook signs of burnout, the surprising prevalence of anhedonia (lack of joy), and Dr. Joseph's practical framework—the Five Vs—for understanding and enhancing your personal happiness. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How to spot signs of high-functioning depression and overcome anhedonia.Why your emotions, including joy and anhedonia, directly influence those around you.The role of trauma, people-pleasing, and over-functioning in our mental health.Dr. Judith's biopsychosocial model for understanding your own unique path to happiness.Easy ways to reduce burnout by shifting from constant "doing" to mindful "being."Episode References/Links:Dr. Judith Joseph Website - https://drjudithjoseph.comDr. Judith Joseph Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/drjudithjosephHigh Functioning Book by Dr. Judith Joseph - https://a.co/d/9sFHkQWAnhedonia Assessment Quiz - https://drjudithjoseph.com/anhedoniaquizGuided Meditation by Deepak Chopra - https://beitpod.com/deepakchopraGuest Bio:Judith Joseph MD, MBA, is a board-certified psychiatrist, researcher, and award winning content creator who specializes in mental health and trauma. She is chair of the women in medicine initiative at Columbia University Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons, clinical assistant professor in child and adolescent psychiatry at NYU Grossman School of Medicine and Chief Investigator at Manhattan Behavioral Medicine, New York City's Premier Clinical Research Site. Dr. Judith was awarded by the US House of Representatives with a 2023 Congress Proclamation Award for her social media advocacy and mental health research. In 2024 she was named a top 6 NAACP Mental Health Champion and a VeryWell Mind top 25 Thought leader. In 2024 She taught a Workplace Mental Health Course to The Executive Office Of The President of The United States of America. In addition to being a notable public speaker at prestigious institutions, Dr. Judith is a sought after on-air expert who has been featured on Oprah Daily's The Life You Want Series, Good Morning America, The Wendy Williams Show, Tamron Hall, Today Show, CNN News With Anderson Cooper, The Mel Robbins Podcast, and more. She recently received a 2020 and 2023 Share Care Award for her MedCircle series on PTSD and a Good Morning America investigative special on ADHD. Social media's favorite psychiatrist, Dr. Judith boasts more than 880,000 followers across platforms, a 30% increase in less than a year. Her Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and YouTube videos receive more than 15 million views per month. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I always say Anhedonia is contagious, but joy is contagious too.Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:55  Ladies, and the few good men who listen, hi. This is amazing. This is exactly an episode I wanted to have since last fall. We had a whole topic on Anhedonia, and I got so many of you reaching , going oh my God, tell me more. So, I found an expert. Get your notebooks out. If you're driving, you'll hit, you'll, just listen, because you want to listen again, you're going to take some notes, and also you're going to want to get this book. So Dr Joseph's book is going to be out April 8th, and so you, normally, I don't preview that. I let you fall in love with her and then tell you, but I'm already in love. I'm going to make sure I get my hands on a copy of this book. So definitely check it out, but here, for you to get the help that you deserve and some amazing validation of who you are and what you're going through, here is Dr. Judith Joseph. Lesley Logan 1:40  All right, Be It babe. I am honored, truly. I heard about our guest today through one of my favorite people in this world, Amy Lavell, and so Dr. Judith Joseph is our guest today. She has a story to tell us, and also has done so much research, and I wanted her on the show because my high-functioning peeps, I see you, we keep talking about not being a perfectionist, not over committing, not do all this stuff, but I thought we'd have an expert come in and talk about the journey of what that does to us and how we can get out of it. So Dr. Judith Joseph, thanks for being here. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Dr. Judith Joseph 2:12  Thank you so much, Lesley. I'm a board certified psychiatrist. I am based in New York City, and I am high-functioning. AF. All of my followers know it. I do a gazillion things on top of being a single mom. I run a lab, content creation, podcaster, author of my book High-Functioning, conducting the first ever study in the world on high-functioning depression, which is something that you know is not really recognized at all in medical literature. But I don't think the depression of our days is our grandma's depression. I think there's a whole new beast out there, and many of us don't even know that we're walking around with it. So I'm trying to demystify that and to bring useful tools to heal.Lesley Logan 2:56  Yeah, that's why I was so intrigued by you. Because what I hear all the time is like, well, I'm not depressed because I get up every day. I do 17 other things, but there's no joy in it. And so can we maybe, maybe take a step back and figure out, like, what is high-functioning depression, and what are the maybe some of the signs that we might be having it?Dr. Judith Joseph 3:15  Well, you said two really great things. You said, listen, we're still getting up. We're doing our stuff. It doesn't look like anything's wrong. And you also said something that's really key, that there's just no joy in it. And actually, the two are connected. So when you go to a doctor or therapist, they're going to pull out this bible of psychiatry called the DSM, and they're going to go through checklists. And according to the DSM, the bible of psychiatry, Diagnostic Statistical Manual, if you don't meet criteria for a lack of functioning or significant distress, but you have all these symptoms of depression, like sometimes you have poor concentration, poor sleep, feeling on edge. That's what we call psychomotor agitation or restlessness, low mood, anhedonia, which is a lack of joy and interest and pleasure in things that once used to light us up, but you don't meet that box of lack of functioning or significant distress. They're going to be like, well, you know, come back and see me when things are really falling apart. The problem with that is that there are tons of people out there who have these symptoms of depression but are still functioning and over functioning because they're the rock, right? They're the mom, they're the boss, they're the teacher, you know, they're the doctor, the nurse, that people depend on, so you can't fall apart. So how do they cope? They busy themselves. They people-please and, eventually, something's going to give either they physically burn out, they mentally burn out, they have a major depressive disorder where they actually do stop functioning. They medicate with substances or with alcohol or self-soothe by shopping too much and going broke, right? Something's gonna give. So why are we waiting for people to lose functioning to do something about this? Why aren't we preventing it? And that's where the research comes in.Lesley Logan 4:56  Oh my gosh. I think first of all, a bunch of people just were like, uh, I have all these things. That's me. I meet a lot of women who are doing all these things, and yet they don't have that joy, that anhedonia that you mentioned, and they try to get help, and the help is either medications that they don't need right now because they're not fully depressed, or they're being told to come back later, and that's so frustrating to not feel heard, and then you just keep doing because you're like, okay, well, maybe I need to do this other seven things. Maybe these things will be the thing that makes me feel better. So I know that people feel so seen, and also I really hope that this becomes the thing people can get diagnosed with, because in that bible, because it does feel like, as you said, this the depression we're having now is not from grandma, because it's true, I don't have children, but if I just were to take off for a week, my team could do a lot, but at some point I need to, like, show up, like the wheels don't spin without, you know, so , it does, it can feel like there's extra pressure on the women who are going through this. How did you get involved in this topic? Were you just seeing it as a bunch of people coming through, or is it something that you went through? Like, can you tell us a little about how you got intrigued by this? Dr. Judith Joseph 6:06  Yeah, actually, it was during 2020, I was given this talk from the same desk that I'm talking from right now, and it was a large hospital system, and it was April, and people didn't know what the pandemic was going to do. They, I mean, we didn't know anything then, and I was called in to really give people the tools to get through a tough time. And halfway through the talk, I realized, I think I'm depressed, but here I am at my desk with my gazillion degrees behind me, instructing doctors and nurses and healthcare professionals on how to heal. And I didn't even realize that I was depressed because I was a doer, you know, and I had this saying, are you a human doing, or are you a human being, right? And I think a lot of us, that's our coping mechanism, at least for me. I'm an immigrant. I come from scarcity. It was never an option of giving up. You had to, you know, if times are tough, you work harder. If you go through something like a breakup, then you just got to take on more tasks at work, you know. And a lot of us cope with our pain by busying ourselves by doing versus just being and feeling and over time that wears on you. And I found myself at that moment in time during this Zoom talk, having that epiphany, and then led me to wonder, how many people on the other side of the Zoom feel like me, because there are a lot of nurses, a lot of doctors in healthcare. Then I started looking into, you know, some I'm in Manhattan, so a lot of my clients are performers, and they went through a really hard time during the pandemic, being out of work, and then the strikes and all that. And many of them, even though they were feeling depressed, they couldn't show it. They had to mask it, because they have to perform. They have to light up a room. So I just started looking at all these different industries, moms, you know, who have to do so many things. They have to go to work, they have to take care of their jobs. They have to take care of their kids. All these people masking these symptoms and just not slowing down and doing instead of feeling and healing. And I just thought, I'm onto something. So I created a reel on socials in 2022 and it went viral. It's been seen over 10 million times around the world. And I had people reaching out to me from different countries saying, I have that. I have anhedonia. This is me. How did you know? Like people were joking, do you have a camera in my home? That's me. Lesley Logan 8:23  Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, I like, as we're sitting here talking, we're two weeks into the new year, so the before, you're, you know, we're taking a few months before everyone's hearing this. And I have friends who are in LA. I lived in LA for 14 years, and, you know, I checked on my friends where I live, where I lived, is still there, because it's kind of in the total middle. And so they're still going to work. Their jobs still expect them to do the thing that they're supposed to do. So they're showing up and doing all the things, and I'm showing up doing all the things, and I'm kind of like, so do we, this is how we just, like handle everything now. We just like keep doing and I think part of it is like it feels normal. And a lot of times we, when there's tough times, we want to do the thing that feels normal, because we we don't want to experience the other thing. But I also think not a lot of us have the privilege in life to not keep doing when stuff is going on, so then you're kind of stuck. You have to keep going, because the world like you are, that's how you get paid, that's how you make a living, that's how all these, that's what people expect of you. And also, you know, there's this underlying currently you can't really deal with so it feels like what you're onto is something that will continue to be happening, but we need to be able to recognize it, so we can label it, so that we can actually go and address it, right? Because we can't just keep living like high functioning, you know, we can't just keep doing that depression. Dr. Judith Joseph 9:42  Yeah, you're absolutely right. I saw this meme, hilarious meme, where it was like, I told my mom I was depressed, and she said, boy, we broke. We don't got time for that, you know. And I thought it was so funny, because you're right when you go through hard times and you don't have the privilege to slow down or others depend on you even if you are economically sound, but others depend on you. You just don't feel like you have that privilege to slow down. You feel like, well, let me just do because that's what I've always done, but you're absolutely spot on, something's gonna give either your body breaks down. And I think that's why a lot of women have these autoimmune conditions, because women, particularly are like they just have so much on their plate. There's so much expected of them. They're not allowed to seem deflated because someone else is going to take your position. Someone's going to say you're on your period, or you're going through menopause. You know, there's just so much on our plates that we don't feel like we can slow down and certain under represented groups, same way, they're just happy to be in the room. Certain industries, doctors, like, if a doctor says that they are experiencing depression in certain hospital systems, they have to report it to the state. I mean, like, there are certain industries that you just can't even say that you're struggling. So I think that if we allow ourselves to process pain, it's not saying that we have to stop everything, because that's like the worst nightmare for someone who's had function AF. It's about teaching them how to get back into their body, how to process their trauma, so that once you start to feel the pain, then you can also feel the joy. But if you continue to numb and you keep on doing you're not going to be able to feel the pain, but you're also not gonna be able to feel the joys in life that we are all, you know, built to enjoy.Lesley Logan 11:28  That's so, thank you for sharing that. I think , like it's, to feel, I have a yoga teacher who is like, you cannot have one thing without the other. Like in the world, we want balance, you cannot have love in this world and not have hate. If you get rid of the hate, you get rid of the love. If you want to only have peace, there is war. Otherwise, you wouldn't know what you're in. And so if you want to have joy in your life, you do have to also feel your pain. And I think also not many of us were really raised on how to feel our pain. If I cried in public, it's like, hey, don't do that like you learn to mask it or bury it. And you brought up women with autoimmune issues. It is insane. How many women I know with multiple autoimmune issues, and you start to go, okay, what is going on here is either that we actually are testing for it, or the life that we're living now is causing us to harm our bodies in ways that are not visible, and not even things we would choose to do, but because we just keep shoving and not getting the help we need, or even if you're trying to get help, not being heard to get help. It's causing a lot of issues I feel like cannot be reversed, and we're missing out on a lot of life, you know. And you mentioned something about getting into your body that I love, because I'm a Pilates instructor, and I believe if you get into your body, you know so much about yourself. For the people listening, what are ways that you help people get in their body? What are the ways, the tools that you've used? Dr. Judith Joseph 12:49  Well, I love this Venn diagram called the biopsychosocial model, and I teach my patients. I teach my clients. It's three bubbles, if you can imagine them overlapping, but those three bubbles are a nice representation of each of us, and I always say your happiness is not the same as my happiness. Know the science of your happiness because a lot of people out there, they're trying all these different things, and it doesn't work for them, but that's because they're basing it off of the science of someone else's happiness. But there is only ever going to be one you. There's only ever going to be one Lesley, ever. I mean, when I think about that, I get chills, because it's like you're so unique. So understand what your makeup is. Understand your bio, which is basically your past history, in terms of your family history, your current medical conditions, what are the medicines you take? What are the supplements you take? You know? You have a very unique biology. Understand your psychology. That's the psycho part of the biopsychosocial you have traumas that are different than my traumas, right? You have resilience factors that are different than my resilience factors. You have a different attachment style, possibly to mine, right? Or different strengths or weaknesses psychologically. And then, the social aspect, we're just saying, I live in New York, you live in Vegas, there are different environmental factors there, right? You probably eat different foods than me, or we have different movement routines. You may have a different work environment than me, right? Understand your relationships. Those are all the social things. So we all have unique factors. And if we were taught to understand these overlapping diagrams, we would understand the science of our own happiness, and we wouldn't be chasing after someone else's happiness. That's number one. And knowing about the uniqueness of your happiness, if you're someone who tends to have a lot of pent up trauma in your body, then I could tell you to eat as much kale as possible, but that's not going to treat your trauma, right? So in that case, I'm going to focus on the psychology bubble of that Venn diagram, and I'm going to say, let's try and process that trauma. We may have to do some 5-4-3-2-1, exercises with you, or some more trauma-focused work, like EMDR work or trauma-focused therapy, making you feel safe again, because that's something that trauma survivors, you know, really grapple with that sense of safety and psychological safety, right? But if you're someone who, on the biological end of things, has an autoimmune condition, has headaches and really intolerable physiological symptoms, I'm not going to be like, well, let's put you in a trauma workshop, right? I'm going to say, let's work with your nutritionist, let's work with your movement specialist, let's work with your autoimmune doctor, and let's see if we can bring down the levels of inflammation, right? If the social issue is the problem, let's say you're in a toxic work environment, where every time you walk into work, you're triggered. Your heart is racing. You have broken self-esteem because people are like, not kind to you, and this is your job that you depend on for your livelihood. I'm not going to say, well, you know, let's have you go see your cardiologist. I'm going, to fix that fight or flight sensation in your chest, I'm going to say, it's your work environment. Let's see if we get you more support at work or get you out of that environment. So everyone has different factors going on, and I think that makes us really unique and special, but it also complicates things a bit further. So I wanted to democratize this tool that is taught in all of medicine and let everyone have access to it so they can understand their unique workup and areas that they should really focus on first and their step to understanding the science of their own happiness. Lesley Logan 16:24  I love that and I do see that there's a challenge there, because we are kind of trained that if you ask the question, you should get an answer, and that answer should help you. But it is true. You know, we all have different needs, especially, and at different times. And I love the idea of the three bubbles, because you can evaluate for yourself, oh, it is more of the psychos. That's where I need to go get help. It is more of this. But I do love like defining our own happiness, which is not easy if you never explored that, if that wasn't something that we were invited to do or even feel. And so I think that where I feel my listeners struggle, where I get a lot of questions, is almost like, how do they know if they're happy? How do they know? Because they're so busy doing and they might even feel like the pain of stuff that's going on, but they're having a really hard time feeling what's happy also, because I think as women, specifically, we sometimes feel bad if I'm happy and they're going through something, I should put things around so people can't see that I'm happy. I should bring my happiness. I should come down. So, I mean, is there tips on how to know what makes you happy? Dr. Judith Joseph 17:30  Yes, and that is why I have a happiness lab in New York City. And a lot of people don't know this, but happiness researchers, we very rarely use that word happy. People are like mind-boggled when they hear that, because a patientwho will come in to see me for private practice will say, all I want to do is be happy. And so I wear two hats. I wear the research hat and then the private practice hat, where I do traditional therapy and medication, but the research hat is really trying to understand whether or not this person's getting happy or worse, and we use points in research. And so I developed this scale, the Anhedonia Rating Scale. Anhedonia means a lack of joy and pleasure. So basically, you want to know how many points you're getting in these basic pleasures in life. If you have like, high anhedonia and you're not enjoying things, then that's a problem. I love to use these quantitative ways because unlike, you know, let's say diabetes, right? If you go on for diabetes tests, you know where your glucose is, you know where your hemoglobin A1C is. But with mental health, it's kind of harder, like you don't have a test where you can look at and say, oh, I'm getting happier, right? But these quantitative measures, these tests, are really helpful. So you can go on my website, take the Anhedonia Quiz and see if you're getting points of joy. Lesley Logan 18:44  You have a quiz? Dr. Judith Joseph 18:45  Yes, I have an Anhedonia Quiz on my website, and you can see whether or not you're getting points of joy in life. And then what I ask is that people practice the five V's, because that's based on the science of your happiness. So the five v's are, number one is validation. A lot of us with high functioning we're always pushing down our feelings if they're negative. We only talk about the good. We don't like to talk about the bad. Someone says, how you're doing, oh, I'm great, and your house could literally be burning down, and you're saying, great, you know? So I want people to start learning how to accept their emotions, whether they be negative or positive, and there are many tools that I give in my book on how to validate, because people have a hard time with validation. Number two is venting. How do you express your emotions? And there are ways to do healthy venting, but there are ways to engage in unhealthy venting. I do a lot of content on, you know, narcissistic parents, and a lot of us had parents who trauma dumped on us when it was not appropriate. So I talk about how to vent in an appropriate way and the different creative ways to vent. You mentioned crying. You know, crying is something that a lot of people don't engage in because they think from childhood they were told to stop crying, you know, like you're a cry baby. But crying is actually a very healthy way to express emotions. And when you cry and you let a good cry, your body calms down, you feel relaxed, you feel more connected to you. The third V is values. And I say that values are things that don't have price tags. They are things that are priceless. So tap into things that, you know what and when you think at the end of the day, your last minutes of life, you're not going to be like, I wish I had that Gucci bag. You're going to be like, I wish I had five minutes with my loved ones, or I wish I had 10 minutes to do something that I always wanted to do, you know? So tap into those values. Try to get part of those values once a day. For me, it's learning and sharing my knowledge with my daughter, so, like, I love to learn black history and science, and I teach her because she wants to be a scientist. That makes me feel great, or when I volunteer and I offer my expertise to underprivileged youth, because that was me at one point in life that makes me feel good, that, you know, that's a value that I'm going to be like, wow, I wish I could do. I wish I did more good in life, you know. And then the fourth is vital. So we only get one body and brain. We have to take care of it. And so, you know, that's probably a lot where you come in, in terms of understanding how to honor the mind-body connection, eating foods that decrease inflammation that are not processed, drinking enough water, getting sleep, you know, like putting that phone away and getting really rich sleep, getting movement that actually helps your longevity and makes you feel happier, and understanding how relationships can be very toxic. And I wish that this was taught in school when I was growing up, but a lot of people don't understand how negative relationships can really drain your life force, and then having that healthy work life balance that's all in the vitals. And then the fifth V is vision. How do you plan for joy in the future? And when I say a future, I don't mean like, 10 years from now. I mean like, as in an hour from now. So for example, after this podcast, I'm gonna have a nice dinner, probably curry or sushi, and I'm gonna eat it, not in front of a screen. I might watch a little bit of Emily in Paris, because that's my guilty pleasure. You know, like these are little points of joy that I'm gonna plan, to treat myself, because today I helped people. I talked with you, these are all things that I need to celebrate, but we don't celebrate but we don't celebrate that. We're like, well, we're supposed to be doing these things, you know, no, every time I get my daughter to school on time, I pat myself on the back, and I sit and I drink my coffee, my oat milk latte, and I take my time. I don't go straight to work. I go home. Take my time. It, 5, 10 minutes, and just say I did a good job. I got her to work. I got her to school on time today. These are all things that we can savor in life, but we rush, we're busy. We don't take the time. We don't treat ourselves like human beings. You know, how many times have you eaten in front of a screen and they're like, you can't even taste the food, you know, and you love the food, but you're like, did you enjoy that meal? Not really. I just needed to get rid of that hunger pain. So the five Vs can really help you to understand the science of your happiness. Once you do that Venn diagram, and then you apply the five Vs to your life, it can really make a difference and increase those little points of joy every day. Lesley Logan 23:11  I really love each one of those in a different way, also what I'm getting. I love that you introduced yourself as high functioning AF, because I do think that a lot of the people like myself and the people who listen to this podcast, we start to think like, maybe I should do less. If I just do less, then I'll be happier. But then we are not happier doing less, because we are people who want to do things, and we are high-functioning people we and so I loved that it's not necessarily about not doing stuff, it's about how you do stuff and how you acknowledge what you're doing. And I think that that's really special, because it's sort of going, going, going, it's like, yeah, pat, I got my kid, my daughter at school on time today. Way to go. Yes. We have an episode on Fridays here. It's called Fuck Yeah Friday. And just this year I changed it so, like, I share a story from Instagram or the internet that, like, inspired me, some woman who inspired me whatever she did. But then it's about sharing the wins from the listeners. So they send in a win, and sometimes they send in these wins, like I finally did, blah, blah, blah. And my favorite wins are, like, I actually made dinner for myself and I went to bed on time, and I'm like, yes, that's a win. That's a huge win. You know, we have to give ourselves credit for that, because, just because it's what you think you're supposed to be doing you not celebrating it is not going to help you enjoy doing it in the future, and it's not going to help you do it in the future. So I, those are my favorites, and so that's what the episode is about. It's about celebrating the things we did do, as opposed to like these achievements that we're waiting to celebrate until a certain time comes. I think that that is, it's hard to do. Most people can't see a win in something or a celebration in something that they're supposed to do. So thank you for highlighting that. Your book. You wrote a book. I think anyone who writes a book to get their word out into the world is amazing, because it's not the easiest thing to write a book. Who is the book for and what are you hoping they get from it?Dr. Judith Joseph 24:55  I'm glad you said that people who are high-functioning AF want to do everything, because five Vs is a lot. And I can personally say, and I say this in the book, pick one or two, because the rule of twos says you really shouldn't be working on more than one or two things at a time. But I like one and two. I like validation, because it's something we can all do. And I like venting a lot, like, sometimes I'll just be so exhausted, and I'm like, why am I so tired? I'm like, wait a second, I'm not practicing the five Vs. I validate, I acknowledge, actually, I am tired. I had a long day. And then I vent. Sometimes I say it out loud. Or I'll tell my partner, listen, I had a really busy day. Or I'll tell my daughter, I was like, oh, mommy, had a busy day, you know? Like, I then I really try. Or I'll, like, put something on Canva, on IG, and say I've had a rough day, or something like that, but I'm venting. I'm expressing. And the other things, you know, the values, I try to tap into at least something a little a day, you know, for my values, vitals, that's hard to get to. I don't work out every day. I try to, but it doesn't happen. But at least if I'm not going to work out, well, I'm going to eat well. And if I'm not going to eat well, I'm gonna sleep better or drink more water or limit my screen time. So, there's a temptation to want to do it all, but pick one or two and tap into it, and then score yourself and see if the anhedonia is getting better. And I really do believe that once you start to do these things that are not expensive, like these, are all things within your capacity, right, to democratize mental health, you can do these things, and your life will be happier. But this book is for that family member who never acknowledges how they're feeling when they struggle because they're the rock. The book is for that entrepreneur who really is afraid of bankruptcy, doesn't ever want to be in that position again, and overworks and overextends and doesn't enjoy their wins. It's for that mom out there who puts everyone before herself, who feels depleted but can't slow down because she feels empty and restless when she sits still she doesn't even know what makes her happy anymore. You know, it's for that immigrant student who feels as if everyone's dreams are on their back and they can't fail, they can't tell anyone that they're struggling, it really is for those people who wear a mask, like the educator, the teacher who spends all their money getting their students supplies, but doesn't even eat lunch, you know like you are seeing you matter, so take care of yourself, because there's no one else like you, and you're worthy of it.Lesley Logan 27:27  That is so beautiful, and I love that you can be in a different walk of life and this book is still for you, because there is, we all have these dreams and aspirations, and sometimes those are other people's dreams and aspirations on top of that, and it can just be a lot. I'm assuming the five Vs are in this book. If people want to, like, read and score and write notes, I do want to attach that I love, that you put values in there. It's something I really in this house, like, we like to all filter things through my, our values. And I'm like, that's a no, because it's not hitting one of these things, and I can't take on more than that. So I love that. And if it can fit one of these things, I could do it, but doesn't. But I never thought about, like, how to make sure I'm acting with that as a way of finding some joy. Because, yeah, that's really, really cool. And yes, I love that if you're not moving well, then eat well. And if you're not going to eat well, then you got to sleep well. You got to do something. You got to do something for your body. Yes. For you, you practice those five Vs because so in 2020 you felt like, okay, I must have this, like, high-functioning depression thing. Obviously, you worked your way through and this is where you're at, is this something that, as a high-functioning person, you might dip in and out of or you can start to recognize it. And the goal is, like you recognize it faster, so you don't go into the depression for too long before you get yourself out. Like, I guess what I'm asking is for my perfectionist is like, is this a light switch once we get over our shit, can we feel really awesome and we never have to go back? Or is this something that we gotta just monitor?Dr. Judith Joseph 28:55  I'm glad you said that, because one of the risk factors for this is something called people-pleasing. But people don't realize that people-pleasing is actually a watered down version of masochism. So before the term masochistic personality disorder was removed from the DSM, the bible of psychiatry, it was really a caricature of someone who sacrifices their own happiness for someone else's happiness, or who's constantly in a position of giving and not getting. And when people think of masochism, they think of sex. But it's not that type of masochism. It's the personality traits that makes people bend over backwards when they shouldn't be but they feel as if that's the only way right? These are doers. They do, do do but what ends up happening is that the takers, they don't, like, thank you. They're resentful of you. They're like, well, do everything because you wanted something, or did you think I wasn't capable? So it actually backfires. So falling into these traits of being a doer is a pattern. It's a way of life for so long but yeah, you're going to work on yourself, but there's going to be a time when you fall back, and I'm guilty of that too. I'm constantly oscillating. But when I start to practice the five Vs and I'm like, let me, like I just demonstrated, let me validate that I went through a hard day, let me acknowledge these feelings, it's easier for me to snap out of that downward spiral because I'm practicing these skills. And so I always explain happiness as when we think of happiness, we think of this picture in the future, like I finally got the job, or I finally got the clout, or I finally got the thing that I wanted, the person that I wanted, the home that I wanted. And then what research shows us is that when we get these things, we're still unhappy. We're on to the next right? So my philosophy has shifted to finding happiness in the now. So when I get into that slump where I'm like, looking around me and I'm like, oh, so and so is doing that, and I'm starting to feel low, and maybe I should be doing more, it's easier for me to snap back into my values, right? I acknowledge how I feel, I validate, I vent it, but then I also tap into my values. And I'm like, wait, but I don't value what they value. My values are different, and I'm pretty good right here, where I am, I'm pleased in what I value right now. So that allows me to slow down. And so I think the more you practice this, the more exposure you get to this. Not only do you change, but the people around you change. I always say anhedonia is contagious, but joy is contagious, too. If you've ever had a boss that was a micromanager who was doing everything and you all were like, oh my gosh, we're so busy, we're all burnt out. And if that something good happened to that boss, let's say they finally dated someone, or they finally got validation in life, or something happened and or maybe even they got ill and they realized this is not important. When that boss shifts, the organization shifts, right? An organization is only as good as its CEO. So I think that anhedonia is contagious, but so is joy. So when you start to shift inside, people are going to notice it. They're going to come towards you and be like something's different. I want what you have, and you may not be more successful, you may not have more money, you may not be more beautiful, but you have something that they want, and they're going to gravitate towards you, but you have to get it for yourself. They can't have what you have. And I really do think that people will start to cultivate joy within themselves by understanding the science of your happiness and applying your five Vs to your life. Lesley Logan 28:55  Oh my gosh. I feel like every woman has to get this book for their best friend, just even as preventative, even if your friend isn't going through this yet, it's true that anhedonia is contagious, and also so can that high function like the doing can be contagious too. So I really appreciate you. I feel like we could learn so much. Now I might have to just binge out on every video you make, but I can't wait to read the book when it comes out, and probably send it to 17 of my friends. So we're gonna take a brief break, though, and then find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you, get your book and then your Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 32:58  All right, Dr. Judith, you truly have given us a wealth of knowledge. Where can people connect with you, get your book. Where do you like to hang out? Dr. Judith Joseph 33:06  So they can buy my book at drjudithjoseph.com or follow me on IG, Dr. Judith Joseph and all the socials they could find my book there. And if you order before the pub date, you get preorder bonuses, and I have courses on the science of your happiness and ways to take you through the five Vs. Lesley Logan 33:27  Oh my goodness. Thank you so much for bringing you. You really have given us a lot, the five Vs is amazing. So if that ends up being part of this Be It Action Items, that's totally fine with me, but something that caused this podcast to exist is I would be drawn to someone and love what they said, and then going, okay, like, what is my first next step, though, you know? And so the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Dr. Judith Joseph 33:51  I just recently did this guided meditation with Deepak Chopra, and he said something that I thought was profound. He just kept saying, lose your name and just say I am. And it's really like a part of the just be, you know, what is it to just be? And if you could just take five minutes a day just to feel your being, just to get to know yourself again, I think many of us have forgotten who we are. So if you could just be, you know, I say, be a human being, not a human doing, you could learn so much about yourself. That self-reflection time, you could practice the five V's during that time, you could just practice one, validation, right, and just be. It sounds simple, but I think it's very difficult for a lot of us to just be. Lesley Logan 34:40  To sit for five minutes is very difficult. And you guys, like, what I found is like, 30 minutes is only 2% of your day, so five minutes is, like, not even a half a percent. So I don't do math well, so don't correct me. But if we cannot take five minutes for our day, we really do have to re evaluate what we're doing and who we're doing it for, because that is not the easiest thing to just be for five minutes, but ooh, I sit in a cold plunge every morning for four minutes, four minutes. And here's why, my tub is not big enough for my whole body. So three minutes with like, shoulders, hips, stomach, ankles, and then a minute for the knees to go in. And what I can say is I don't want to do it before I get in. I step in and I'm like, why am I doing this? I get in, I'm like, the air is sucked out, and then within a few seconds, you kind of settle in, and you're like, I just have to be here for four minutes. This is all I have to do. And it really is something that I'm so grateful that I do every day, because it does let me, like, set to go okay, today is today. Here I am today. I'm not even thinking about the schedule. It's just kind of like this moment and just being in this moment, where am I feeling this and how am I doing? And I highly recommend it. You don't have to get a plunge, but it just sits still for five minutes and see how you're doing. I highly recommend. I love that Be It Action Item. I think it'll be a challenge for a lot of people, unfortunately, but also I hope it's one that they take on, because I do love that. Dr. Judith, you are fabulous. I hope to one day, run into you and see what you're doing changing this world, because I do think this, your book and what you're saying are really what people are needing to hear right now. And I also just want to highlight one more time, everything you said in those five Vs is not actually going to cost a lot of money. It's like things you can just do by evaluating and addressing. So I appreciate tips like that. So thank you being you. Lesley Logan 36:18  Y'all, how are you gonna use these tips in your life? Make sure you tag Dr. Judith, you tag the Be It Pod, share this with a friend, but this is a friend who needs to hear it, you know, sometimes we feel like we have to help everyone, and sometimes we can help them by sending Dr. Judith's words to them so that she can help them and you can go back to taking care of you. So thank you so much. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 36:39  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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It's time to celebrate your wins, Be It babe! In this Fuck Yeah Friday episode, Lesley shares an inspiring story of resilience from librarians saving books, uplifting wins from the eLevate community, and a personal self-care journey that's bringing unexpected joy. Whether it's investing in your Pilates practice, embracing new routines, or simply learning to indulge in self-care, this episode is your reminder that now is the time to prioritize yourself. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.All right, Be It babe, hello. How are you? Happy Friday. So this is where I share a little bit of inspo that I got from the internet, a little bit of inspo from you, and a little bit of inspo from me, and then a little mantra. It's the Fuck Yeah Friday. If you're new to our podcast, this is our short episode. It's really a lot of fun. You never know what you're gonna get. But also, I might share one of your wins, so send them in. Literally, send your wins in. Please, come on. It's so much fun. So this inspired me when I was on Instagram, and it comes from librarian.vibes, and it says, librarians create fake library card to save thousands of books. I know. Isn't this amazing? So this librarian said there's nothing more sacred to a librarian than a library card. But when a town in Florida decided to burn all the books that hadn't been taken out in a while, local librarians made a fake card for one Chuck Finley, Chuck, who doesn't exist, checked out 2,361 books to keep them from being Fahrenheit 451.So I truly love this. I love a little bit of resistance to like things that just aren't making any sense. And so may I just suggest that if you are afraid of amazing books being banned or not being able like one of the ways you can do it. I saw this other girl on Instagram every month just going and buying some of the books on the banned list, just going and buying them while they're still around where she's at, so that they stay in existence, right? So this inspired me, very inspired by it. So anyways, I hope that inspires you. Isn't that kind of cool? 2,361 books don't get burned because Chuck Finley doesn't exist. Check them out. Love that. Love that for them. Okay, so your wins that came through, honestly, I've spent a lot of time with my eLevators, so I'm gonna share some of theirs. So this one is from Lisa Osoteo, dear eLevator family, I'm so excited to introduce to you Esme, my Wunda chair, short for Esmeralda, in honor of her beautiful grotto, teal green color and Violet, my sumptuous Spine Corrector. I chose the colors sight unseen, just computer swatches, and when I got Violet, she lived up to her name, though, truth be told, she also gives off a Barney and Grimace vibe. So despite her proper sounding given name, she's also Biolet Barney Grimace or VBG. If she's wanting to be posh, she'll also answer to Violet Bader Ginsburg, her name when she helps me inhabit a spine of steel. I did my first chair workout yesterday on Esme, and she kicked my butt. I haven't yet to be broken in by VBG. This dynamic duo put me through my paces. Kidding aside, I'm celebrating that. One, eLevators taught me the value of a personal practice. And two, that my practice warrants investing in my own classical Pilates equipment. And three, that I have the knowledge to know which equipment I need to support an essential home practice. And finally, four, that I have this community who share Pilates equipment birth announcements. It's a thing, Esme and Violet. February 4th 2025 I mean, so fun. I wish I could post you the picture. It's just adorable and amazing, and the colors are beautiful. And now I need to get my own violet version of something for my studio. I have a grotto, and it is stunning. It is a color is worth repeating. So thank you, Lisa, for letting us celebrate the births of Esme and VBG. This next one is Christine Ivy, and she is one of my new eLevators, and she wrote. I videotaped myself doing the mat so I could watch and see where I am in my practice, especially in terms of stable shoulder girdle connection and back extension. It was really helpful to see evidence of where I am and what I need to work on, humbling and helpful. And I wanted to share that with you guys as a win, because here's the deal, my loves. We've all heard feelings are not facts, you know what I mean? Like, like feelings are not facts. And in our bodies, it's really easy for us to feel like we are in extension when really we're just like a PEZ dispenser with our neck, or feel like we're tall when really we're leaning forward. So I don't like mirrors in a studio, although obviously they have to exist in a little bit. But I don't love people just looking at themselves all the time. I kind of like people moving their bodies and then film something. And so at OPC, we actually let our members film themselves doing an exercise or two and send them in. And I can give feedback, because it may be that they just need to move their feet a little bit further to the right, or they need to actually reach down through their heels more, like sometimes, just need someone else's eyes to tell you what you're feeling, yes, but also here it is, and then you can find it better, and you can find it faster. And I just love that we do that. So thanks, Christine, for sharing that win because it's not easy to look at yourself and go, okay, oh, I see, I feel like I'm doing like this, but really, I'm cheating myself out of this. So thanks for sharing that. I can't wait to see how your practice continues to grow inside of eLevate. All right, a win of mine. So you guys, I gotta be honest, I think I've shared this part of this as a win earlier this year, but here we are in April, and this is about a year ago when, like, my lashes grew in and I could, like, finally doing it with them, but I am sharing that I have truly, absolutely loved, having fun getting to do a self-care routine that is for my face. When I had fake lashes, you can't really wash your face, you can't rub your eyes. You couldn't do that right? And so I'm obsessed with washing my face and then putting this moisturizing rinse on my eyes in the shower and gua sha-ing my skin. And I actually have learned how to gua sha with just my fingers as well, because there's ways you can do that for your lymphatic drainage. I know you're like how is this a win? It is a win because one, I absolutely love doing my makeup. I think it's really a lot of fun. I don't go off to go do my makeup. I also go out without my makeup all the time, but I am actually having so much fun getting to know myself and my look and who I am. But more importantly is the removal of the makeup and having access to my whole face and then the self care that I can do. And if you're like, wow, she's really indulging herself. Yes, I am, and I hope it inspires you, because, my goodness, we all need to be a little more indulgent about how our bodies feel. And I say this, my mean, like massaging my face. Because, my goodness, if you we talked about this with Ashley Black, the fascia person you know, spending 20 minutes like fascia-blasting your body, what that does for you. And so here I am in April, truly loving all the things I can do for myself. And I, you know, some of us like, oh, I gotta go gua sha. I've gotta go wash my face. Gotta go brush my teeth. Honestly, there's something so rewarding about cherishing all the things that I do as a nighttime routine, not only do they help me sleep, but also they really do make me feel good inside and out. So I hope that this win of me having a habit of gua sha-ing my face and loving taking my makeup off gives you some inspiration on like where you can have some gratitude, and also where you can be a little more indulgent, right? All right, a mantra for you. Here we go. We gotta leave you with something to think about. Now is the time. Now is the time. My loves, whatever you're thinking about doing, and when am I gonna do it? Now is the time. Here's your sign. Thank you so much for letting me share all this stuff with you. It's really a lot of fun to do solo episodes, celebrating your wins, celebrating something in my life, celebrating something that was pretty cool, that someone did. And a mantra, if you have any wins you want me to share, please send them in, because you might need to hear them today. Wouldn't it be amazing if you were having a rough day and then you heard about something you did for yourself? Bet you it would change your day. All right, loves, you know what to do. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Recapping Lesley's powerful conversation with Monique Rhodes, a globally recognized happiness strategist, this episode explores how small, intentional shifts—like practicing gratitude, creating a “bubble of influence,” and embracing discomfort—can lead to greater joy and emotional strength. Tune in for Monique's actionable steps for managing negativity and reclaiming your peace and purpose.  If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How the "bubble of influence" creates joy for yourself and others.Our societal obsession with comfort and why embrace discomfort.How gratitude reframes your mindset and increases happiness.The danger of toxic positivity—and why feeling all emotions matters.The “Sixes Method” for letting go of stress and gaining perspective.Episode References/Links:April UK Mullet Tour Waitlist - https://opc.me/ukApril Spring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comMonique Rhodes Website - https://moniquerhodes.comMonique Rhodes Happiness Activation System - https://iintendtobehappy.comTara Schuster's Book: Buy Yourself the Fucking Lilies - https://a.co/d/etSRpDr If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the gratifying convo I had with Monique Rhodes in our last episode. I was also a happy episode. It was like a happy convo. Brad Crowell 1:04  It was awesome. Lesley Logan 1:04  It was so, I'm obsessed with this woman. Gotta figure out how to get on a retreat with her. Anyways, you have to listen to that one. I don't care when you listen to it, but it's a must. Brad Crowell 1:14  It's a directive. We're telling you, you gotta go listen to the last episode. Lesley Logan 1:18  I really enjoyed. It was just so great. Brad Crowell 1:19  She's very inspiring, very compelling. Lesley Logan 1:21  Yeah. But also I found myself going, oh crap, I have to stop the episode. Like, I have to stop interviewing her, because it's time. Brad Crowell 1:29  Oh, you mean it just kept going. You were like keep going. Lesley Logan 1:31  I just kept going. I was just like, I'm just gonna keep talking. I like, love this woman. Anyways, before we get into Monique Rhodes, today is April 3rd 2025 and it's Weed Out Hate Day. It's a day that speaks of the importance of being kind and thoughtful towards others. This holiday is much needed in today's world, especially in today's world so where selfishness reigns supreme and assholes do, too. I inserted that myself. Marc Daniels came up with the holiday in honor of his grandfather, Ross Daniels, the inventor of the Ross Root Feeder. This revolutionary irrigation tool allowed nutrients to get to the deepest roots and trees of our plants, thus helping them achieve peak health and more bountiful harvest. The main goal of Weed Out Hate Day is connect gardeners and kindergarteners with the natural world while improving society in the process. Weed Out Hate Day removes the roadblocks that prevent children from achieving their full potential. Those who participate in the ceremony learn to kick out any negative influences in their lives and bring in more positive aspects. I think that's cool. I think somehow they took they're like, we take out weeds, and we are gonna help children take out the weeds in their lives. Brad Crowell 2:40  Yeah, they're gonna inspire kids. I think that was really great. Lesley Logan 2:42  I think so too. I think I love it so much. Brad Crowell 2:44  That's a heck of a marketing team. Lesley Logan 2:46  It really, really is Ross. Ross the rooter. Brad Crowell 2:52  Marc came up with it. Lesley Logan 2:53  I know, but his dad was, grandfather was Ross the rooter. Anyways. Well, I mean, there are certain people in this world that I think are freaking worthy of all the hate in the world. There are individual people with names we all know. But that being said, unfortunately, we live in a world where they're like just people are hating on entire groups of people, or trying to inspire hate on all groups of people. And I think we can all understand that everyone just wants love and to feel seen, and it actually is a lot easier to love strangers, than hate them. It's really freaking hard. But also, if you're like, I don't have the time to think about other people in this world, Lesley. That's fine. Remove the haters in your life. Block and bless. Goodbye. Lesley Logan 3:30  Okay, we are getting really, really close to a couple April things that you need to know about, and one of them is when we go to the UK this fall. If you are in the UK or the EU and you want to join the workshops that we're doing, at two different cities, you're going to want to go to opc.me/uk to get on the waitlist, because those on the waitlist will get the early bird price, and these events can sell out pretty quickly, because they sold out last time we were there. Space is small, so we're only gonna have so many. So not only would you get the best price, but you would also get the option to actually attend, because it will only go public if there are rooms, there are spots left. So, opc.me/uk. Also happening in April. It's going.Brad Crowell 4:10  Meaning get on the waitlist, because if it sells out on the waitlist, then we're not even going to announce it. Lesley Logan 4:15  Right, right. You'll just hear that we're going, and you'll have missed out. Brad Crowell 4:18  Yep. So, opc.me/uk. Lesley Logan 4:21  And we're not doing the UK in 2026 I'm going to tell you right now. So the next one, I don't know when that is. April 27th through May 3rd is going to be the. Brad Crowell 4:30  Spring Training. Lesley Logan 4:31  Spring Training. You guys, I just picked out the uniforms for the teachers.Brad Crowell 4:35  Oh, you did.Lesley Logan 4:35  Yeah. Brad Crowell 4:36  Nice. Lesley Logan 4:37  Yeah. It's like an actual baseball tee. Brad Crowell 4:38  Oh, cool. Lesley Logan 4:39  It's so cool. It's so cute. But now, because August is the bat dog, I feel like we need to get, like, a costume for him. I just gotta, I gotta find it out. Anyways, it's going to be April 27th through May 3rd. If you're an OPC member, it's free. If you're not an OPC member, you're going to want to go to opc.me/events to get on the waitlist, because those on the waitlist will save money on the ticket to your Spring Training. And the theme is the Pilates Push Up, and if you hate it, then this is for you. And if you love it, then we'll see you there. But if you hate it, you have to come, because whatever you hate you gotta do twice. We got not 10 classes. So there you go, plenty of opportunities to discover some love for it. Brad Crowell 5:15  Opc.me/events, oh, side note, it actually wraps up on the International Pilates Day, which is May 3rd. So, how fun is that? Lesley Logan 5:23  Is that possible because are we ending on a Saturday? Brad Crowell 5:25  Yeah. Lesley Logan 5:26  Oh, then it is on International Pilates Day. Some, in my brain we were ending on a Sunday. And I'm like, okay, somehow we got that wrong. But no, and you know what, guys? Call your friend. Yeah. Okay. Up next, Brad has something very special for the Pilates teachers and studio owners in this world. Brad Crowell 5:42  Yeah, that's right. If you're feeling stuck in your Pilates business and you're trying to figure out, how do I grow, or how do I make more money, or how to get new clients, I want you to join me. Come to a free webinar where I'm talking about growth, growth for your Pilates business, whether you have a studio, whether you have a home studio, or you're taking clients and renting from someone else, it's all applicable. Lesley Logan 6:04  This is all really important. It's important you know the growth that you want, and that's very, that's really important to me because a lot of companies that coach Pilates businesses, they all have one way to coach you, and it is to grow you to a place that might not be where you want to go, might mean not how you want to teach. And I just had someone DM me today that they're like, quitting teaching because they're exhausted from the model that they've been doing. She's like, yeah, I'm gonna get another job. I just can't do it anymore. And I was like, well, that's really sad. It's sad for you. It's sad for the people who could be taught by you. And if you are feeling like you're in burnout, if it keeps going the way it's going, then you actually need our help. The world can't lose you because you're the only person who can do what you do the way that you do it. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator to hear more about all that goodness, and then.Brad Crowell 6:49  Profit without the O, prfit.biz/accelerator.Lesley Logan 6:52  And then, you guys gotta come to Cambodia. I want to spend, I get to spend a week with you. It was so funny when people were leaving, I was like, oh, they're gone. There was a space missing on Friday morning. And we're like, oh, everyone has left the space for Sarah, because she had to leave on the Thursday night, well it's almost like Friday morning, so she got to all the things but the last class. And we're like, oh, Sarah's gone. And then we said goodbye to everyone, because they were leaving. And so we went off to do something, and we're like, oh, it's just the four of us now. And then the next day we say goodbye to that, last year, we're like, oh, we're alone. We're alone by now. Like, you just think, I'm a family, and it's so fun. So you want. Brad Crowell 7:33  It was amazing. We had an incredible group in February. Lesley Logan 7:35  Well, we already have a great group coming this October. We have people who have come before, so they're doing that second one. Brad Crowell 7:40  That's right, coming a second time and bringing somebody new. A couple of OPC members are coming. Agency members are coming. Do we have eLevators yet on this one? Regardless. Lesley Logan 7:50  One of the repeaters is an eLevator. Brad Crowell 7:52  Oh, eLevators. Yeah. Lesley Logan 7:53  You don't have to be any of those things. You can just come and then we can hang out and you can see if you want to do more things with us, or you can say that was fabulous. Thank you for my lovely vacation. Bye. Just really awesome. So go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot for this October. In 2026, we're only offering the retreat one time, and so you don't want to wait two years. I'm just saying. You don't want to wait two years. Okay, we have to get to Monique, because I really want to talk about Monique, but first we have an audience question. Brad Crowell 8:25  Okay. Sierra Pilates in Prague on the IG says, Hey, regarding the 100, what are your favorite cues when teaching it to beginners? Lesley Logan 8:28  So everyone's obsessed with cues. I think we've talked about cues before on this podcast. There are no favorite cues for beginners. Beginners just need to do the best that they can, and it needs to be simple. So no straightening your legs across the room like a mermaid tail. That's not it. Like, honestly, it's curl your head and chest up, pump your arms up and down. Okay. Are you breathing? Breathe in, breathe out, and then give them a break, and then do it again.Brad Crowell 8:54  Especially for beginners, like, I'm a beginner, okay? I don't even know how the damn exercise works when the cues get complicated, I'm thinking more about the analogy or the complication than I am about the thing I'm supposed to be doing.Lesley Logan 9:09  And then when I say, do the 100 the next time you're like, what exercise is that? Because there was so many cues coming at you that you couldn't actually remember the name of the exercise, but the movement of the exercise to do the exercise so you can get corrections, which is, to me, what people mean when they mean cues. I think they mean like a correction or a direction.Brad Crowell 9:27  And I actually think that when you get to the point where somebody understands, you say the 100, and they're still doing it wrong, or they need to improve on something, the cue then that you are making it's personal to the body in front of you. Lesley Logan 9:42  Way to go, babe. That's exactly it. You can't just, there could be 75,000 things you could say.Brad Crowell 9:49  You might end up with half a dozen different ones that you regularly use, because you see that many clients, and you see a similar problem. But honestly, it's not a one size fits all. It's literally, it's not possible for that to be the thing. Lesley Logan 10:01  So I would just say, like, I actually don't necessarily have beginners lift their legs up for the 100. I also, we've talked about this before, I don't teach them in tabletop either. I just leave their legs down and I see if they can actually do the head and chest curl and without using their neck. And if they can, then when they come down, I'm like, okay, this time we're gonna lift your legs up and then, and if that goes like crap. Guess what, this time, put your legs down, pump your arms. That's what I would just say. So no cues, because they gotta know what they exercise. Thank you for that question. Send your questions and I love answering them. They're so much fun for me. Okay, now we gotta get into Monique Rhodes. Brad Crowell 10:34  Yes, stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 10:36  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about Monique Rhodes. Monique is a globally recognized happiness strategist and expert in mental resilience, mindfulness and purposeful living. She teaches practical methods to help individuals shift perspectives, build emotional resilience and cultivate a fulfilling life. Her work is featured in over 70 colleges and universities worldwide, which I didn't know that, that's insane, and she collaborates with leading corporations to enhance well being and productivity through her programs, retreats and speaking engagements. Monique empowers thousands to live with more ease and intention. What an inspiring conversation. Lesley Logan 11:15  So inspired. I was so inspired. I've actually talked about this little thing I'm about to talk about right now, almost daily, because I just really love it. She said everywhere we go, we've got all these things that are showing us there's loads of reasons to be miserable. Like, literally, every time you open up your phone, anytime you talk to a friend, they're like, here are 70 ways to be miserable. Or if you even, hey, oh my God, this is going on, someone else goes oh, but this is happening over here. People just want to bring us down all the time, because there's a fuck ton of shit going on in this world. But you know what, you can also be happy, and there can be a fuck ton of shit going on this world. Not that you're like, the shit makes you happy, but like, you have a life that's happy and there's this going on. So anyways, she said, instead of absorbing stress and chaos, you can create a little bubble of influence that is our small ways you can create joy daily. And she talked about the bubble of influence is like us doing nice things for other people. That brings us joy, because we did something nice for other people, and it makes other people also have joy as well. And so it was really quite cool. She said there are so many small ways that we can influence our lives that we don't even think about. We can sit every day and say to ourselves, what am I grateful for?Brad Crowell 12:19  I feel like this is the episode that people are going to save. Favorite it, not this one, but the one before, the interview, and they're going to listen to it again and again, because I don't even remember her saying that, and I recently listened to it, right? There's so many things in this episode. I also think that in the section, she was talking about chaos and politics and all this stuff. And she said, we don't have any control over that. We don't have any control over that. My argument would be, we can participate by voting, and we can participate by. Lesley Logan 12:50  Calling our congressman. But once you've done all that, that's really it. You can vote with your dollars all those things. So that's what you can do. But beyond that, I can't make the people that I voted for do the thing that I asked them to do. I can't make them so I can only do what I can do. So I can't just go, oh, I'm gonna stress around what they didn't do today. Instead, I can actually go, what am I grateful for, though? And here's what's really, gonna add to this. I'm reading another book. Buy Yourself the Fucking Lilies or something like that. Anyways, I thought it was new. It's not. It's been around for a while, but I'm gonna try to get her on the pod. I'm gonna DM her, since it's not a new book, she clearly is not busy promoting the book, but she said do a daily 10 gratitudes in your journal, so if you don't know what to journal, yeah. Tara Schuster, hi, Tara, if you're listening, I want you on the pod. Okay, that would be amazing. So buy yourself the Fucking Lilies, and I got a signed copy, by the way. I know. I just bought it off a shelf, and there it was. So anyways, she suggested in your journal just write down 10 things you're grateful for. It can be like, I'm really grateful that I painted my walls white and not the orange color that they were before. I don't know. You can come up with 10 things you're grateful for, because it does change how you feel about your day, which will change the happiness that you are experiencing in your life. Brad Crowell 14:04  I also like the bubble of influence, this idea that we can separate ourselves from the fear, the chaos that is bringing us down. I thought that was really cool.Lesley Logan 14:14  So we talked, the bubble of influence was like a simple compliment to a someone's smile. I love your smile. And I talked about this in the pod, like, my mom has this way of like, she doesn't let a person go by without giving them a compliment. Oh my God, those shoes are so good on you. Like, this person is just walking by, but you do it too. You just did it at the airport. He does it at the airport. He's, I like your jacket. The person didn't notice. So he's like, hey, I like your jacket. And this other guy goes, who me? And Brad said, no.Brad Crowell 14:40  I said no. And he goes, I didn't think so as he looks down his jacket, that's not awesome. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't like complimentary. It was funny. Lesley Logan 14:48  Complimenting other people actually makes them feel good, and it also reinforces your positive mindset, because it shows that you're looking for things to compliment people on or do things for people. So anyways, it's just really great. Go on, Brad. You say yours. Brad Crowell 15:00  Okay, all right, all right, all right. So I really loved when she was clarifying toxic positivity, right? Because people who are happy all the time, they must just be ignoring what isn't beneficial or happy to them, like they're suppressing it somehow. And she said, whatever emotions you suppress means that you're suppressing emotions across the spectrum, right? So you can't just suppress negative emotions. If you're suppressing emotions, you're suppressing emotions everywhere, right? The way that I took this too, is like, I guess it's not possible to suppress the negative emotions and still feel the positive emotions. Is what that really meant to me. Lesley Logan 15:37  Yeah, I mean, our yoga teacher, he talked about, you can't have love without hate, right? Like you can't actually experience love without having experienced hate. You cannot actually experience being healthy without experiencing sickness. So I love that her to talk about, if you suppress negative emotions, you're suppressing the emotions around that across the spectrum, so you're just starting, and then you're not going to feel anything at all, which is like, not, that's not a joyful life, either. Brad Crowell 16:06  Yeah. Well, she mentioned that we are stuck on this idea that we have to be comfortable all the time. And this really resonated with me. Lesley Logan 16:15  This was such a fun part of the conversation. Brad Crowell 16:17  Yeah, it was, just listening, like, first off, y'all, she decided to just move to India and motorcycled around India for four years. It wasn't like I did a trip for a month, no, four fucking years. That's insane. I loved it. I think that's amazing. And she said she intentionally picked these tiny little guest houses. And she said, life was kind of crazy, and you survived on the people being generous around you, and that just she obviously is not from India, right? So she stands out, but she was able to do it, and loved it. And she said it was an absolutely incredible experience. But she said, it's not comfortable. It's literally not comfortable.Lesley Logan 16:56  I actually really like this. And this is going to be another shout out to the retreat, if you want to experience a little discomfort, but you would like it to be comfortable, the retreat is really great for that, because. Brad Crowell 17:06  We don't have an infinity pool. Lesley Logan 17:07  We don't. We have curated an amazing schedule, but we can't control the weather. And on this trip, it was 94 degrees Fahrenheit, with 50% humidity, and you would be out, and we're like, wow, but you would also be taking in all this amazing stuff going on, and so you were uncomfortable, but also enjoying yourself. And it was just so cool to watch people who like, that's not how they would choose to live. That's not how their life is. But it also shows you what you're capable of, like, I'm capable of going out sweating like a crazy person and still having a good time. Brad Crowell 17:40  We do have air conditioning in the room. Lesley Logan 17:41  We do. Also, the beds are extremely comfortable. I really like them. Brad Crowell 17:45  Yeah. But this idea of being obsessed with comfort, and that's our society, especially in the United States, we are obsessed with comfort. We feel like we have to make things luxurious for ourselves at all times. And she said, what if you ate dinner sitting on the floor, like, you could do that in your house, where you have all the luxuries. Lesley Logan 18:03  Yeah, we were in line for security, you and me in Singapore, and in Asian airports, you guys, they don't have one security system that everybody goes through. And then you're on the other side of security. You actually have to have a ticket to get into the airport, but you can go get coffee, you have a nice meal, and go shopping all the things, and then you go to your gate, and that's where there's a security thing, right? Brad Crowell 18:24  So you don't do security until you're about to board. Lesley Logan 18:27  So there's literally, which is so nice, because sometimes you come into the airport with something, you're drinking. So you can do that at these airports and come in with some of what your drinking. So anyways, they only have, like, four bins, and this woman, who's five people behind us, so Brad and I have our bins, we are putting our stuff in our bin. And this woman, and she was an American, and she's like, walks up to the lady who's so nice and like, getting people their bins and giving it to them and answering questions, like, we don't have enough bins back here. And she said it so loud. Brad Crowell 18:59  She takes one of the bins, and clearly isn't looking, clearly doesn't actually pay attention at all. Lesley Logan 19:04  So now there's less bins for the people in front of her. Brad Crowell 19:07  Right, because there's only four or five in the entire security line, and they're being sent back to her on a little conveyor belt, and she snags one out of it, and the the lady that's working it like looked at her and kind of went, okay. Lesley Logan 19:20  I did an audible, I looked her in the eyes and kind of rolled my eyes at her, because that was like me going, that was dramatic. That was like unacceptable behavior. And I'm now Canadian, if you're from the States, because we're not the same person. She could not be uncomfortable standing in line waiting for her turn. And so I'm just going to say, lady, if you're listening, hi, you were seen. And this podcast is for you. Learn to be uncomfortable, because you'll have, we, it was such a happy experience, I know.Brad Crowell 19:51  So here's, here's where we go with this, right? She said, if you're uncomfortable like that, she said, instead of letting emotions take over, which this woman clearly did, she suggests observing them without judgment. If you're feeling angry, sit with that anger. Where is it in your body? Wow, this anger is in my this is inside of me right now. It's making my shoulders tight. It's making my stomach feel a little sick. It's making me feel warm. But I'm just going to sit here and I'm going to observe it. Lesley Logan 20:16  Right, because then you actually feel your feelings. You're not suppressing them, and you're also not letting them control you. You get all the benefits of all of the things, which I think is just what we all need. So anyways, you guys, next time you're uncomfortable, take Monique's and think about it. What was it? What are you feeling? Anyways, we could talk about Monique forever, but really you could just go listen to her, but before, we have to talk about her Be It Action Items. Brad Crowell 20:39  Yes. So stick around. We will be right back. Brad Crowell 20:43  All right, let's talk about those, Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Monique Rhodes? She said, hey, to avoid holding on to negativity or stress, assess what's worth your energy. And she said, there's the sixes method, which I thought was really interesting. She said, if this thing that is bending you out of shape, will it matter in six minutes, six hours, six days, six weeks or six months from now? If the answer is six months from now, this is going to be a problem, then you can then focus on it. But if it's not, then she says, I literally say to myself, let it go. Let it go. Right? And she said you can build resilience by stepping into discomfort daily. And it's a practice, just like happiness is a practice. She suggested small daily challenges for 90 days, like trying a new recipe or taking on a different route to work. Lesley Logan 21:39  Yeah, that's uncomfortable when you don't know if it's going to work or not, if it's going to make you late. I think these are.Brad Crowell 21:43  Yeah, it's simple and it's small. Lesley Logan 21:44  You want to know what your daily discomfort challenge is. You got to tag the Be It Pod. You got to send it to us. I want to know. Brad Crowell 21:50  Yeah, and what about you? Lesley Logan 21:51  She said, get to know you, which I think is very bold, because I think it requires us to, like, take some time to just get to know ourselves. Know how you can do that? Get uncomfortable. You'll start to learn a lot about yourself, and then you can see how you can calm yourself down, where you're feeling things. But another way you can do it is, she talked about, like, having a three minute meditation practice where you are literally sitting still quietly, and when you do just three minutes, you start to, like, learn a lot about yourself, because like, thoughts come in. Meditation is not about like, I have no thoughts. You're actually noticing the thoughts that you have, and that's going to help you get to know yourself. So I think that that is a really cool thing to do. If you're like, well, how do you like your eggs? Do you like a window seat or aisle seat? Know, the things you like? Because then you can advocate for yourself, and you can also have better experiences that are also uncomfortable, but just you can just enjoy yourself more. I just thought, what an interesting conversation, because when I said she was a, so she was a happiness strategist, I was like, okay, let's do this because, like, episode three was a happiness strategist, right? Or a happiness expert, but this was nothing like I expected. I learned so much about how to have a joy-filled life without it being like I have a joy-filled life. Here's my halo. Brad Crowell 22:59  Here's how joyful I am. Lesley Logan 23:00  Oh, why? Nothing bothers me. No, she lives a really awesome life. It's and, like. Brad Crowell 23:05  She challenges herself a lot. You know, she talked about being a musician, and she said you could put together a set list to go out and play, where you know the songs, and it's going to be a solid set list, she said, or you can put that song in there that's going to make you stretch for the high note, and then you can go out on stage and you can rock it. Lesley Logan 23:24  Yeah. And I just think often we think happiness means having no unhappiness. But after listening to her, it's actually just having a happy life is actually really just noticing what is going on in your life, and where do you feel it, and then also, how are you giving joy to others? So go tell someone they have a beautiful smile. Go get uncomfortable. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 23:52  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 23:54  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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 What if happiness wasn't something you had to chase but something you could create daily? In this transformative episode, happiness strategist Monique Rhodes shares how to train your mind to find joy regardless of external circumstances. She and Lesley Logan discuss the power of gratitude, overcoming toxic positivity, and breaking free from the mental habits that keep us stuck in stress and negativity. Monique also dives into her personal journey—from struggling with depression to mastering happiness—and how you can build emotional resilience and confidence in small, daily ways. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How Monique went from struggling with depression to becoming a happiness expert.The difference between true happiness and toxic positivity.Why gratitude can rewire your brain and shift your emotions instantly.The 90-second rule to process emotions without getting stuck.The power of daily courage challenges to break out of your comfort zone.How social connection and community are essential for mental well-being.Episode References/Links:Monique Rhodes Website - https://moniquerhodes.comMonique Rhodes Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/monique.rhodesMonique Rhodes Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/moniquerhodesofficialGuest Bio:Monique Rhodes is a happiness strategist whose programs on mental resilience, mindfulness, and well-being are featured in colleges and universities around the globe. She hosts the popular podcast In Your Right Mind, sharing insights on how to rewire mental habits for a more purposeful and fulfilling life. After overcoming significant adversity in her youth, Monique traveled extensively to master practical methods that reduce stress and deepen self-awareness. Today, she teaches thousands of individuals—from corporate teams to online communities—proven strategies for achieving lasting happiness, leading immersive retreats in Costa Rica, and infusing her global experiences and creativity into every aspect of her work. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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So I don't actually need anybody else to bump me up or keep me going or help me. Within myself I'm able to. Don't get me wrong, I've got amazing friends, and I love them, and there are times I need to discuss things, but day to day, I've got it all here because I'm my cheerleader.Lesley Logan 0:26  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:08  All right, babes, get ready. Just sit back and just really, just, this is something I want you just to, like, try not to be trying to do 17 things at once. For this one, I want you to enjoy every word out of our guest's mouth. I am obsessed with her already. I'm gonna figure out how I can stalk her and make her a friend of my life. She is a happiness strategist, and if you think you know what that is, I promise you that you don't. And if you think you know what she's gonna say, I promise you that you don't. This is a great conversation. You're gonna wanna listen to it multiple times. So here is Monique Rhodes. Lesley Logan 1:36  All right, Be It babe, this is going to be a fabulous conversation. I can tell you that, because I've spoken to this amazing guest before, and it was hard to keep it contained to 15 minutes. So I'm excited that we have a longer format for conversation today. Monique Rhodes, you know what, you had me at Happiness Strategist, so can you just tell everyone who you are and how you rock at that? Monique Rhodes 1:54  I love that. Lesley, I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for having our second date together. So basically, I specialize in teaching people how to master their happiness. And I've done this over the past, really, three decades, and it's all from personal experience. So everything that I teach is what I've done to turn my own life around. So I love it. I love helping people. One of my programs is in so many colleges and universities around the world. I work with a lot of corporations, and I teach thousands of people all over the world. So I love it, and I love being here to talk to you about exactly what you do so well, which is get people excited about their lives. Lesley Logan 1:59  Thank you so much. I mean, here's why I'm so attracted to this, because I think today's world, it's really hard to be happy in, as soon as you open up your phone, there are text messages from somebody who's trying to make sure you know that someone's having a crappy day somewhere. There's demands from all around us all of the time. And so sometimes I do wonder, is it even possible to be actually happy? If you are happy, do you feel guilty all the time because other people aren't happy? Like I have so many questions.Monique Rhodes 3:06  I love it. Look, it's a really interesting point. So your point is that everywhere we go, we've got all these things that are showing us, there's loads of reason to be miserable, and that's the way that the mind works. So the mind automatically latches onto the negativity. But I really believe that you can create a little bubble of influence. It's just your bubble. We hear about the circle of influence, but literally, live in your bubble of influence. You can't do anything about what is happening in the politics in the world. You can't do anything about the natural disasters that are happening around the world, but I tell you what you can do. You can walk down the street and you can see someone that you've never met and smile and say hi to them, or go to the cashier at the supermarket and say, wow, you look so beautiful today. Well, how's your day going? There are so many small ways that we can influence our lives that we don't even think about. We can sit every day and say to ourselves, what am I grateful for? I mean, I can sit here right in this moment and just say to myself, What am I grateful? I'm grateful that next to me there's a glass of water, because there are so many people in the world that don't even have access to fresh water. I'm so grateful that you and I get to meet here, and we get to have this conversation. Because of the advent of the Internet, we have the ability to meet this way. I'm so grateful that I woke up this morning and I'm not in a war zone, because so many people in the world are so when we start to think about it, when we start to look at it and see being alive is one of the most unbelievable miracles, and what we do is we get ourselves caught in this kind of they call it hedonic adaptation, where we actually miss it. We've got so much stuff that we have that brings us comfort and happiness that we don't even see it anymore. And so what our brain latches onto is the novelty. And the novelty is often the negative. Oh, that person's going through this or this is happening. Oh my God. Look at the news. Oh my God. So getting ourselves into a place where we see that the novelty is actually all around us all the time is a really powerful way to lift down happiness levels. Lesley Logan 5:24  Oh my gosh. Okay, so many little takeaways there. First of all, anytime someone reminds me about being grateful, I am reminded that judgment and gratitude can't live in the same space, and so it's just starting to be grateful. And I love that you brought up like I'm grateful for this water, like I'm grateful if I have windows right now, in this moment, it is raining, and I love sunshine, but I'm so grateful that it's raining, because I live in the desert and we haven't had rain in 225 days. You know, finding because it's so easy to go, oh no, it's raining. I can't take the dog like you can always find those. So I find that that gratitude just starts to uplift. But I do love how you talked about the bubble of influence, because I think you're correct. Like, we start to go, oh my gosh, all this bad stuff is happening, and I can't do anything. And how is this affecting me? And how you start to do that? But my mom is one of those people who, when we go out, she finds a way to compliment strangers, every stranger walking past them at a hotel. She's oh, my gosh, I love those pants on you. And I'm like, I was in the middle of a conversation. And she just does that and so naturally. But I think because so few people do that, how they can touch someone's life in a way that they feel so seen, and we don't know who they are and how that could affect the rest of the world if we each hit our bubble, I imagine that there's a domino effect, that it gets bigger and bigger together.Monique Rhodes 6:36  You know, when I was a kid, my best friend's mother was very, very beautiful. She was a model when she was younger, and whenever you walked in the door at her house, she would look at you, and she would say to you, darling, you look absolutely gorgeous. And I remember as a kid that didn't come from a very good background, I would just melt into that. And sometimes I would show up, literally, looking as though I just rolled out of bed, but I knew that deep inside of her, she saw me, or I believed that she saw me. It was such an incredible gift that she gave, and it's something that I really focus on is giving that gift back, because we know when someone says it, I ran into a woman the other day. I haven't seen for a year. I only met her briefly once, and she saw me and she said, You look fantastic. And I walked away and went, ah, look at that. I mean, how good does that feel? There was no payback in her for saying it. She just said it, and how beautiful it is when we're on the receiving end of it. So whatever it is that we want in our life, we have to give it. If we want more love in our life, we have to give it. If we want the joy and the beauty of life, we have to show each other what it is that's how we lift our happiness levels. Don't wait for everybody else to make the world better. You know, there's stuff going on. There will always be stuff going on in the world until the day we die. But it's not about what's happening. It's about how we're responding to it. And we can always see the light. We always can see the light. And Lesley, I'm not saying that we bypass stuff in the last few months. You know, two of my friends have died, and it's not like, oh, I go, whoa my friends have died, and I'm still really happy. I am still really well, and I grieve and I feel it, but I don't let it control me. I allow the grief or I allow the difficulties and the challenges to be there. But my resilience is really strong because I also, alongside it, allow myself, even when there are difficult things happening, to see the beauty of my life and the world at the same time.Lesley Logan 8:55  You know, I'm so glad you brought that up, and I want to get more into happiness with you. But what I fear people take away is that toxic positivity? I'm sure you've heard of it. I lived in LA for 15 years, and living four hours away and watching the city of my memories burn, you know? And there are people who are like, ready to go, but now they'll get to rebuild back better and all this stuff. It's like, yes, is it too? What is the difference between happiness and seeing what is possible and toxic positivity?Monique Rhodes 9:22  Well, I think there's something really interesting that it's absolutely vital that we understand, is that whatever emotions you suppress means that you're suppressing emotions across the spectrum. So if I'm someone who says, whoa, I'm just positive all the time, and I don't look at the negative stuff. You actually don't really feel good all the time. So it's really important for us to understand if we want to experience joy and happiness and wellness, we have to be comfortable with experiencing discomfort. I mean, that's it. Otherwise we're just bypassing the whole thing. So I'm a really big teacher of take all your emotions and experience them and feel them. You don't have to act out on them. If you feel angry, sit with the anger. But where is it in my body? So this is the key, Lesley, is that to not run with the story. If I'm angry, to sit and go, wow, this is really interesting. I'm going to look at my anger and to shut down that story that says because he did this, and da, da, da, da, to sit there and go, oh, this is anger in my body, and it's making my shoulders tight and it's making my stomach feel a little sick and it feels warm in my body, and I'm just going to sit and observe it that is allowing the emotion. I don't know if you've ever watched the very famous TED Talk by Jill Bolte Taylor called My Stroke of Insight. It's really phenomenal. So Jill Bolte Taylor was a neuroscientist, and she had a stroke, and she watched herself have the stroke. It's really extraordinary, really worth watching. But one of the things that she discovered was that an emotion has a 90-second shelf life. Any emotion has a 90-second shelf life. So this becomes really interesting, because what we can then understand is if I do feel anger, and I have anger come up and rise up, and there it is. If I'm able just to sit with it for 90 seconds and allow it and observe it and let the story go in 90 seconds, it's going to be over. What is the only thing that keeps it going is this. I'll give you an example. I'm driving to work, and some idiot in their Range Rover cuts me off, right? And all of a sudden I feel this rage because I've got a fright, and I'm like, oh my God, that idiot in his Range Rover. And then I'm driving along, and I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it. Then I get to work, and I walk in the door and I say, you'll never believe what happened. And all of that fear and anger is boiling up again in my body because my mind doesn't know the difference between the experience it's remembering and the experience it had. So those emotions are still exactly the same. And then my partner calls me, and I say to him, oh my God, you would not believe what happened, right? Instead, I could have the experience. Allow it to happen for 90 seconds. Feel the anger, feel the fear, calm myself down. Let it go. Let it go.Lesley Logan 12:38  Oh, what a different day you'd have. Your work day would start off in a different space. I'm loving this. I can see my husband and I just setting a timer for each other, like, oh, okay, here's 90 seconds are on the clock. I'll come back.Monique Rhodes 12:55  You're at 93 seconds. Shut it down. It's really interesting, because when you do this, Lesley, what you start to understand is that you go through your day so often feeding negativity, and you start telling stories. Oh, you wouldn't believe what happened to this person and all of that. So if we can actually learn to shut up and just be very mindful about our conversations and say, Well, I can have those conversations if they're constructively looking at how I can solve a challenge. But so much of our conversation is around this happened, and you wouldn't believe it, and that happened, and our brain is creating imagery inside itself and reliving these experiences. We literally create so much of our stress and anxiety for ourselves. It's not even happening out there. It's happening in here.Lesley Logan 13:53  And also the person who cut you off doesn't even remember doing it. They've moved on.Monique Rhodes 13:59  No, it's interesting. I have a really good strategy that I use, which is this, when something happens that I have a relatively strong emotional reaction to, I ask myself the question of sixes. I can't remember where I first heard this. It might have been Brené Brown that first spoke about it, but I say to myself, will this matter in six minutes, in six hours, in six days, in six weeks, in six months? If it's six months or more, I say to myself, I need to pay attention. If it's less than six months, I literally say to myself, let it go, if there's nothing that I can practically do to work with it, if it's nothing that needs to be solved, or maybe I've done something that was wrong and I need to look at that, that's fine. Then I go away, I take responsibility, whatever it is, and I do the work on myself and otherwise it is a let it go. Do not waste your energy on it.Lesley Logan 15:05  Mind blown. And I love this so much because so as a recovering perfectionist, I'm someone who like, some days when I make a mistake, I can let it go, and some days I almost keep playing it in my head over and over because I'm upset at myself for the mistake that I made, or not seeing that that could have happened or been taken a certain way. And so I replay it, and I replay and then I get angry about their responses, and I get angry that I'm angry, and I do the whole thing, but I can imagine if I had just run through like, is it gonna matter in six minutes? Matter in six days, six weeks, six months? I bet I probably would've get to most of it not mattering at six months, I bet you it wouldn't, and so then I would probably not have to suffer. I could probably enjoy the yoga class I was taking while I was running through all that in my head.Monique Rhodes 15:52  But I might even have an added bonus for you, Lesley, is that your perfectionism served a purpose. You learned when you were a child that if you were perfect, you received love for it. And so that is where this behavior comes from. I keep doing this because I learned as a child that if I was perfect, I had to be perfect to be loved. I call it the Love Contract. And so one of the most powerful things you can do in those moments is not only say, does this matter? No, it doesn't. I'm enough as I am, and to love yourself in that moment, in your imperfection, and to know that your being perfect is not a direct line to being loved. Does that makes sense? Lesley Logan 16:42  It makes so much sense. And I feel like every listener who is a perfectionist recovering, we attract a lot of them here is like, kind of mind blown, because I do think that their perfectionism is what's keeping them from being happy. I'm sure you have plenty to say on that. And I think that in their desire to not be a perfectionist, I don't think that they're approaching it, because I know I'm not with just saying I am, I'm worthy of love like I'm enough right now, I don't think that's how we're approaching it. I think people who are trying not to be perfect are judging how much they let their perfectionism get them for the day. So I feel that that is such a good takeaway to, one, appreciate what you did as a child, because it was a survival thing to feel loved. And we all need to feel loved, to grow and get to where we are, and then to not judge ourselves for that, but instead welcome and have gratitude for who we are today and that we are enough in the moment that we are. I think what a great action step people can take that changes the emotions in their body. Monique Rhodes 17:37  Yeah, and to know that everyone does it. So every single one of us has learned one powerful strategy to get loved, and it could be I'm going to really excel at school, or I'm going to take care of people. You know, there's so many ways that this particular thing plays out, so that every single one of us, not just perfectionists, all of us, have something that we learn as a child will elicit love for us, and it's a really powerful thing. And then to look at that and go, does this still work? Actually, being a perfectionist is causing me all sorts of problems. I want to do really well in my life, but I've got to understand it's not that I need to be perfect, it's that I need to be loved, and we all need to be loved. So then we've got to go to the root of the tree and see how can I be loved without relying on being perfect to get it? Lesley Logan 18:31  Oh, everyone, write that in your journal. That's the next thing. Okay, I feel like I got so excited about all the things you have to say. I'm just like, obsessed with how much you know on this. But how did you get here? Like, how did you get to be, you know, the expert in this area, what was the journey? Monique Rhodes 18:46  Yeah, well, one of the beautiful and painful things about this journey of it was mine, Lesley. So I grew up, I was adopted at 10 days old, and I grew up in a very, very difficult situation in my family life. There were lots of really, really bad things that happened. And when I was 19, I ended up in a hospital having tried to take my own life. And I remember sitting there and saying to myself, this is going to go one way or the other. Either I have to give up or I have to do everything to heal myself. But I didn't really know what healing myself meant, because I saw, it appeared that everybody else was really happy, and I seemed to be the one who was broken and struggling. So I made a deal with myself that I was going to do everything that I could to try and heal this and myself. So went on a mission, and a little bit like an Olympian would, I did everything I did every therapy under the sun. I tried every technique. I traveled all over the world, really looking and seeing myself, but trying all sorts of methodologies to see what I could find. And probably the most powerful thing that I learned that encompassed a lot of what I teach is that happiness is not outside of me. Of course, there's lots of wonderful things. You know, I'm sitting here looking out at the ocean. I live here in Costa Rica in the jungle, and it's awesome. But actually, what is happening in my mind is the dictator of whether I'm happy or whether I'm suffering. And that was such a light bulb moment for me. And so then the focus came on, okay, so if it is about my mind, then what can I do to train and tame and optimize my mind so that I can live a really happy life? And the end result is that sometimes I think I'm annoyingly happy, you know, and it's like, I can't actually believe that this kind of happiness that I experience is possible, but it is, and now I have the incredible honor of teaching other people how to do exactly the same thing. Because for me, there was no path. There was no one saying, you do this, this and this. And so for me now I'm able to create that path for other people so that they can change their lives as well. And that makes me even happier, you know, because that's one of the things about happiness, is when you're in service to others, you know, taking care of other people to some degree, not at the expense of yourself, but to some degree, is one of the things that adds to your happiness. So I don't know, I just have this really amazing, amazing life.Lesley Logan 21:24  Wow. I think so many people could look back at part of your story and then feel sorry, but also how much of that took for you to be where you are and to share that with all of us. You know what I mean? If you didn't have that hard of a life and you didn't have that experience, would you have had the drive to figure that out, you know?Monique Rhodes 21:42  And I would just be teaching a theory, I would just be saying, well, you can do this, whereas I can tell you with 100% certainty, because I've seen it with so many of my students, that what I did with myself is something that can be replicated. And so when you go from being in a hospital at 19 in absolute despair, to waking up every day excited about the day, feeling like, oh my God. Does it get better than this? I know that those two states are possible by working with my mind. That's it. Lesley Logan 22:18  I'm really obsessed with this because I find, like most of my day, I do things that make me feel good, the way I wake up in the morning. I'm really, I'm so intentional about my morning routines, I might drive people crazy when I travel, because I'm like, no, you can't walk with me. I have to go for my walk. I need the sunshine. I need to do these things. But I know that, like, those things that I do are actually helping me get into my mind, find the happiness, get present. I have ADHD, and also an Aquarian, so I'm just like, air sign in my head. So I like, need all this, and so I'm obsessed with the different things that you've talked about, because there's so many of these things we can do that are free. And out of all the people that I've interviewed, at some point, you're like, paying for something. And obviously you probably have amazing tools we could all buy, but also giving a compliment to someone doesn't cost you anything.Monique Rhodes 23:04  And also, that means that happiness is available to everybody. It's not something that is only available to people with loads of money, but the media teaches us that it is because it's always trying to get us to buy something. So the truth is, is that there is no difference between me and a beggar in the slums of India, where I've spent a lot of time. There's no difference. You know, I remember the first time I really started to realize that the story wasn't as simple as I thought was the first time that I went to Thailand. It was my first time in a third world country, and I remember going through these canals in Bangkok, and I remember seeing a guy, and he had four bamboo posts and a tarpaulin over the top. And I remember him sitting there with this big smile on his face, and he had a little bag of belongings beside him. I remember thinking, I think that's the happiest guy I've ever seen in my life. And I didn't get it. I was young, you know? I didn't get it because everything I'd been led to believe was money, success, fame, power, that's where happiness lay. But what we actually see is that so many of the people that have fame, success, money and power, are freaking miserable. They're some of the most miserable people. And yet, I've spent a lot of time in India. So I traveled through India for four years on a motorcycle as part of my journey by myself.Lesley Logan 24:30  That is so cool. Monique Rhodes 24:31  Right? And one of the things that I found was that, my God, the Indian people, some of the poorest people, so generous, so loving, so kind, would literally give you the shirt off their back, so much happier than the people in the West. I remember when I went to India, and the first time I came back and someone said to me, I don't think I could go to India. And I was like, why is that? And they said, because I couldn't handle the poverty. I said, you know, what I realized from living in India for so long is that the mental poverty of the West is way more painful than the physical poverty of places like India. We live with so much comfort, particularly in the United States, completely comfort-obsessed and the levels of stress, anxiety and depression are through the roof.Lesley Logan 25:24  Yeah. I mean, we go to Cambodia, we have a helm there, and I am always amazed by the smile on the faces of people who sleep on the floor, and the generosity, because they so want to show you their life, and the generosity of them feeding you with the food that they really can't afford to have, but also it would take away from their joy and their happiness to not do that. So it's very interesting thing, and it makes you go, I'm judging them, but they're actually happy. They're actually happy. And I'm the one who's so concerned and so worried about all these different things, and that's from the Western mentality of growing up. And I'm a Pilates instructor as well. And the amount of people that cannot handle discomfort in their body, they're like, oh, that really hurts my ankles. And I'm like, pain, like, we're gonna break them, or just uncomfortable. And it's most of the time it is just uncomfortable. And I'm like, so this is a workout, and we have to be uncomfortable to change the body, otherwise, you stay the way you were and you came here for something different. So, you know, I think it's really interesting how many of us cannot handle discomfort in so many different ways, not just in the way we travel, but the way we move our body, the way we want our day to go. We don't like when anything gets out of the way, because then it's going to affect things. But also, even if everything went perfectly. They're not happy anyways.Monique Rhodes 26:41  Think about the culture of the United States as an example. Right? Whenever I go to the States now I think about it. You have very comfortable cars. You have very comfortable wide roads. You have the comfort of going to all these shopping malls everywhere. You have the comfort of being able to order anything up to your house if you can't even be bothered walking out the door. You know the thing is, is that when you live in a third world country, like I live in Costa Rica, which is like a poorer country, and it's so beautiful, the other day, I was down at the beach and I got a flat tire, and I needed to go home and get something to change the tire. Because I do want you to know that I can change my own tire, even though I've got a big truck, because I live somewhere where you need four wheel drive. Anyway, I needed to go home, and I didn't have my phone with me because I was at the beach, and there was just this guy at the beach, and he had a little stand, and he just packed his stand up, got me in the car and drove me home. And I was like, I loved it. I loved it. Like it really put him out, and it was for no reason but the kindness. And what happens is that when we live in a world that doesn't have all of the comforts, people rely on each other more. When you get into a first world country, people are relying on each other less. They wake up in the morning in their little bubble, and then they get into their little bubble, and they drive to their little bubble, and they do their work in their little bubble, and then they go home and they watch TV for the rest of the day, you know? And it's like, actually, what we need is connection. We need community. We need belonging. We need to be with each other and interact with each other and get off our phones and actually see people, because that is what brings the nervous system down. That's what makes us well. So we kind of look at the West as this ideological state of, wow, look at all the stuff we've got, but all of it actually is taking away so much from the things that actually make us happy. Lesley Logan 28:41  It is, oh my gosh, it really is. As we're recording this, in two days, I get to go to Cambodia, and I'm so excited because I just needed to be too hot, too humid, and I need, I need to be freaked out a little bit about making a left hand turn into oncoming traffic, like I need. There's something about getting out of all the comfort that we have here to remind ourselves, what do I truly need anyways? And what I love about it is because there is so much less distraction. It's every sunrise and every sunset is beautiful. Every rooster that wakes you up is the coolest thing. The wedding that goes until three in the morning, you're like, who's getting married right now? Because you don't have these other distractions. There's something you can see the beauty in all of these things. And so I do think it's a challenge, though, because so many people are afraid of letting go of their comfort. I guess I'm wondering, do you have like, baby steps for getting uncomfortable?Monique Rhodes 29:36  I want to point out that the Pilates lady is more than likely uncomfortable in lots of ways. So she will avoid discomfort all over the place. She will not tell her husband that she's unhappy in her marriage. She will let her kid rule her rather than tell her kid off. There'll be a series of things that she does. It's really important we can handle discomfort. So one of the first things that I'm going to encourage people to do is to travel. Traveling is incredible, and I have traveled all over the world. And I'm going to say this just I'm going to tell you this truth for fun, I've slept in the slums in India, and I have spent weeks in a castle in Switzerland, and the truth is, is that it's all the same at the end of the day. There's nothing about the castle in Switzerland that was any better than the slums in India. So get yourself into places where you go somewhere like maybe go to Mexico or something. Don't stay at a fancy resort, stay at a little guest house. That's what I did through India for four years. I just stayed at little guest house like I literally lived on about $500 a month. That's what I lived on. Ate simply, lived simply because. Why? Because it made me strong. Made me stronger. If I can handle physical discomfort, I can handle emotional discomfort. So that's the first thing is to start to look and see maybe I can travel differently, or maybe I can think about, what are all the things that I have in my house that create comfort? What if tonight I sit on the floor, or what if tonight I give up something? You know, that's a really powerful thing, is to say to yourself, What could I give up for a week? Maybe I'm going to give up the dishwasher for a week, which, to me, is funny, because I don't have a dishwasher here. Maybe I could give up TV for a week. Maybe I could give up driving for a week. I don't know, choose something that's manageable, and give it up for a week, and then you start to appreciate it, because all of a sudden you don't have it. And that's a really powerful way so that when it comes back, you all of a sudden, are like, wow, I have this whole new appreciation for this thing, and to really make that correlation between discomfort and the ability to handle it equals strength. So you might even have a little journal for yourself where you say, every single day, I'm going to do something that makes me uncomfortable. I'm going to make that phone call that I don't want to make. I'm going to compliment someone in the street. Whatever it is, it's a muscle. It's literally, the muscle is courage and if you can build that muscle of courage, then you can handle any discomfort. You can literally put me anywhere with anybody, and I can handle it. And I know it from so many years of traveling solo around the world, but that wasn't just oh, it's just because it's who I am. It's because I've built the muscle of courage, and I consistently look for ways that I can flex it. If there's something that I'm afraid of, then I'll go, oh, here we go. Okay, I live in a country that has a lot of spiders, and I don't like spiders. I can actually handle a tarantula in my kitchen these days. I mean, how amazing is that? I don't even know how to, I don't know how to do that because it's just courage to tell a different story. It's all it is. That's it, Lesley, it's just a story. What story do I tell? Do I say to myself, I'm going to break my ankles in the Pilates class or do I say to myself, I'm strengthening them? Do I see someone in the street and think to myself, I'm too scared to tell them how beautiful they are? Or do I think to myself, this isn't about me. This person is going to feel amazing when they hear this. So, so much is the stories that we tell ourselves. You get to choose the story you tell yourself, but always flex that muscle of courage like your life depends on it, because it may.Lesley Logan 33:54  I mean, I feel like courage is to be happy, and this life is courageous because it goes against the grain of what everyone is telling us, we should be we should be suffering, we should want for more, we, we don't have enough. And what I'm hearing you say, because I was really excited about this conversation, because I do wonder, like, can you truly be happy? And is happiness like being in the clouds? Like, do you know what I mean? Like, you have to ignore everything just to be happy. And what I'm loving from you is it's actually being in it all. In fact, go being the thing that makes you scared or makes you nervous or feels uncomfortable, and what can you become grateful for? Because that's where you're going to become happy. Monique Rhodes 34:35  And also, think about it, Lesley, whenever you do something that you were afraid of and you managed to do it. There are very few better feelings in the whole world than that. So what the other side of fear there is often a feeling of incredible, sometimes exhilaration, but deep joy and happiness in yourself, because you start to see what am I capable of, and we're always so much more capable than we ever give ourselves credit for, or that anybody ever told us we were. Whenever I'm with my friends' kids, because I don't have kids myself, my sole goal is to show them that they are way more beautiful, wonderful, intelligent and capable, then they may see themselves at the moment. My only job is their honorary auntie. That's it. Is to show them possibility. Who's going to show you possibility? Well, you can show yourself possibility. Well, okay, so how do I do that? Well, every day, because this is the key is that happiness is a habit, so you've got to do habitual stuff. So every day you sit down, you set yourself a little challenge. You say to yourself, Okay, for 90 days, I'm going to sit down every morning, and I'm going to challenge myself to one, one thing. For 90 days. I'm going to do a courage challenge for 90 days. Discomfort courage challenge, or I might call it a possibility challenge. Okay, well, I'd like to learn how to change a tire. I'm like, oh, I'm going to do it. Go onto YouTube. So easy, right? If you don't know how to do it I'll make you a video, because I love changing tires because that's what you learn as a young New Zealander growing up, your dad always teaches you, so you never get yourself in trouble how to change the tire, right, or it might be, oh, there's something on my computer that I don't know how to do. You know that I'm struggling with. Okay. So learn it. Learn it. Move yourself out of this discomfort. So I'm often giving my students 90 day challenges. That's what I love doing. Give them a challenge for 90 days and say, let's work at this. I'm working with one of my students now who literally is working with discomfort so she can build that muscle. She's a friggin CEO of a company, big company, but she shies away from a lot of that discomfort and kind of manages things. So now it's who am I if I step into it, does it matter if I can't do it? Because that's the fear, because she's super capable. What if I can't do it? If I can't do it, I bypass it, I shy away. So now we're stepping her into 90 days of things that she can't do, and she is just loving it, because there's a whole other element of herself that's coming out and is so powerful. Imagine for 90 days doing every day, doing one little thing, one little thing. Tonight, I'm going to make a new recipe for dinner, or today I'm going to go to a different Pilates class, or I'm going to go a different way to work just those little things that take you out of your habitual comfort ways all of a sudden, without even realizing it, your confidence starts to grow because you're moving yourself in directions that you didn't actually realize. You didn't realize you were caught in a little box. Lesley Logan 37:59  Yeah, it's a muscle we all need. It's often what's keeping people like, we call this, be it till you see it. It's the confidence. And I'm like, well, how are you gonna get confidence unless you do the thing you know, like you're born with confidence. I don't think so. I think you could have parents or people around you who remind you that you're doing things that are hard and amazing, that you're confident. But I find that the things that I do that are not things I was trying to do. I do them scared, and I know a few things about myself. I don't quit. I will figure out an answer, and if I don't like it at the other side of it, then I don't have to keep doing it. But right? But like, I'm gonna give it a go. I'm gonna give it the best shot. And then you get a confidence in the area, and it covers you into other areas you feel like you're not going to be confident, because you have evidence that you can do things that are hard, you can do things that are scary, you can do things that are uncomfortable. And that's part of the happiness. You know? Monique Rhodes 38:49  But there's a payoff to it. It's really interesting because before I started teaching this, I was a singer, and I toured all over the world. When you go out on stage, and I've been on stage where the, you know, there's been 10,000 people and just me and my guitar. You go out on the stage and you've got two choices, and it's a hard choice. One, I can do a really good, solid set. I can do a good, solid set where I know all the notes that I'm going to sing and it's going to be safe, and that's what life is like. You can go through your life and you can say, I'm going to do a really solid set with my life. It's not going to be amazing, it's going to be good, but I might feel a bit meh, it's going to be good. Or you can go out on that stage and you can say to yourself, I'm going to go for it. I am going to go for the phenomenal, for the extraordinary, which is what I chose. I said to myself, when I got out of that hospital, I said, I want an extraordinary life. That's what I wanted, and that is what I've had, and that is what I live and I have to be comfortable with falling flat on my face. I have to be and the truth is, is that the weird thing is, is that I so rarely do. That's the weird thing, is that it's the times that I fall down are so much less than I ever would have I would have thought it'd be 50-50, it's not. It's probably about 1% of the time that I've flat on my face. And I'm really comfortable with it. I'm really good with it. Because the payoff is, is that I'm hitting the high notes. I am hitting the high notes, and I'm having this life that is awesome and fascinating and interesting, and I thrive in it. And so we've got to understand that it's a choice. So we've got to get comfortable with discomfort so that we can go for the high notes. If we're not comfortable with discomfort, we're always going to shy away and go for the comfort.Lesley Logan 40:40  Oh yeah, Monique, I could talk to you for hours, but I've learned so much. I'm reminded of things that I've always wanted to do, or I used to do, and I feel like this is just such a solid, I feel like everyone's getting something from this. We're gonna take a brief break and find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you. Lesley Logan 40:56  All right, Monique Rhodes, where do you hang out? And we know you're in Costa Rica, but can people connect with you online? Can they work with you? Where's all the good stuff?Monique Rhodes 41:03  Yeah, absolutely. You can come to Costa Rica. I do retreats down here because I live the dream life Lesley, one of the most amazing retreat centers in the world, is five minutes from where I live. It's called Blue Spirit down here in Nosara in Costa Rica. So I host retreats here every year. But also the easiest way to come and find me is I have a website called I Intend To Be Happy, and that's the place that you can come and find me and start working with me. And I just love nothing more than helping people shift their happiness and really understand it. Listen, Lesley, if I can do it, anyone can, I'm no genius, I'm no superstar. I'm just a 19-year-old kid that wanted to change her life and managed to do it.Lesley Logan 41:47  Oh yeah, everyone, please go and you know, let me know how it goes. I'm also going to look at your retreats, because I've been itching to get to Costa Rica, and I feel like this is a sign. Okay, you've given us so much already, and so feel free to remind us what you've already told us, or any bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What you have for us?Monique Rhodes 42:06  I just think that it's really important to get to know you, to know that we live in a world that will consistently distract you from getting to know you. And one of the most powerful gifts that you can give yourself is to say, listen, there's a lot of noise out there. Let me, and you might have to do it gently, slowly but surely. Let me take time where I'm not running away from me. And I think that's one of the most powerful things, because the more you get to know you, and I know sometimes we think, by get to know me, I'll be afraid of me, but you won't be and to really just every day, take a little bit, take three minutes and just sit quietly or learn a meditation practice, just to get to know you. If you do that, it will change your life. I know myself so well. I have gone from being my own worst enemy, almost critic to being my own biggest cheerleader. So I don't actually need anybody else to bump me up or keep me going or help me like within myself, I'm able to, don't get me wrong, I've got amazing friends, and I love them, and there are times I need to discuss things, but day to day, I've got it all here because I'm my cheerleader. I'm the one that knows me best, and I'm the one that can help me along the path. And I think it's a really, really important thing for each of us to understand. Don't fall into all the distractions of the world. They're literally taking over your mind. Take your mind back. Take your power back. That's where it lies, right, right here.Lesley Logan 43:43  Obsessed with you. Love you already, and you don't even need my compliment, because you are already happy without that. Everything about this is fabulous. You guys. How are going to use these tips in your life? I want to know. Monique wants to know. Please share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Honestly, especially those friends you care about, who you sometimes feel like you're avoiding because they are a downer on your day. They probably need to hear this the most, and then you all can have a bubble of influence. I'm just, yes, thank you, Monique, for this and everyone, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 44:14  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? How's it going? Today is your Fuck Yeah Friday. It's the last one of March. Forgive me, on the start of March, I should have been like we're celebrating women, and I really did without even knowing that, because, you know, it's a women's month when it gets close, right? But like, I'm recording in January. And then we started this month celebrating a woman who people were tearing down based on her personal choices, and she had so many accolades. And then we honored two other amazing women. One was just a really great reminder to us all about courage and confidence, and the other was a beautiful child who is autistic, who wanted to have a celebration for her uniqueness. And today, I think is a great FYF to have with who's going to inspire us. Lesley Logan 1:31  This lady's, this is amazing. I almost like want a poster of this in my office, not even a lie. From Jane Goodall, and she said, "It actually doesn't take much to be considered a difficult woman. That's why there are so many of us." Right? Right? So I just thought that that was just a wonderful little thing that we could all just giggle about, because don't we like change how we do things, or change the pleasantries on things, just that we aren't considered difficult, right? We do this all the time. So anyways, thank you, Jane, thank you for that. Thank you for reminding us that it doesn't take much to be considered difficult, because that's why there's so many of us, right? So anyways, if that resonates with you, just remember, you're not difficult. You actually have very amazing, I think the opposite, the, if a male will be difficult, he'd be someone who knows what he wants, right? So I just think that you're not difficult, that you're someone who is clear on your boundaries and know what you want. That's amazing. So, thank you, thank you for that, Jane. Lesley Logan 2:27  Okay, your wins. This is where we're going. Your wins. So I'm going to read from Kelly Nyhan, and this is from the fall, and we got a lot of wins in here, so here we go. First win. I got through all of my emails. I love reading all the newsletters from LL, truly, and one, had my win listed, which is about updating my logo, and I'm feeling so proud. Yeah, that's why you send them in. We celebrate you, and then you get to see them, right? Number two, I'm a bit on the ADHD side, and I have such troubles getting focused and making a plan of where to put everything, notes, ideas, tasks. Anyways, I ordered a planner that I think could help me, and I'm 99% committed to reviewing it each morning and evening. I like digital first sessions and appointments, but I need a place to handwrite everything else. I also took time to visualize how and what. It's really the most debilitating thing for me. It was never a problem, and now after menopause, it's literally ridiculous. Three, finally woke up at my desired time of 5:30 am and did a brain dump of anything and everything. I got to get on paper somewhere and out of my head. I feel a little embarrassed to admit all of this, but happy that it's all in a safe place. I also evaluated my night rituals. Thanks, LL's newsletter, geez, these really helped me think about things. Thanks. And so true, I love getting up early, cheat the day, but for some time now hitting snooze. I think it's because I didn't have a morning routine that I was excited about and felt like it's too many tasks burning me. Well, now I have a handle on them, and today I got up with enthusiasm. Number four, I got a new person in my Mindful Mover Zoom class. It's very much an invite only. Basically, it's referral. So this is so great. And one of my students is coming with a friend for duet, starting November, weekly. And I'm thinking that in the spring, just because it's too cold for snow for the 70 plus age group to drive here, but in the spring, a small group of Pilates group circuit, where they really know the names the exercises thanks to eLevate. Last but not least, sent all of my remaining payment reminders for 2024. Yes, I'm getting a better system to send them before the second to the last and recruit day and requiring payment on a specific day, I take checks and sell only, so I still have to do it manually. It's fine for me for now. Kelly, there's so many great wins in here, and I just want to highlight a couple of them. You do not have to go I've been on the ADHD side. Having ADHD is a superpower. Knowing how you move and operate is actually superpower, right? So it's not the ADHD that's the superpower. It's like knowing how you learn, how you operate, how you do things. That's the superpower. So celebrate that. And also, I love that you're not being perfectionist about checking the thing 99% a way to go, way to be honest with yourself. I love that. I also love that you figured out how to wake up at your desired time. I think we overwhelm ourselves with all the things we have to do, and so then we just go, I don't want to do any of it. Well, you actually have to figure out a way positively to welcome in those things that you want to do. That's how habits are truly made. So congratulations. And I also am grateful that you know that there's little tidbits that you get from the newsletters, that's why you read them, because they help you, right? And what you don't need to do and what you are getting so much better, it's like overwhelming so with all of the things, so way to celebrate that, and I also just want to celebrate like, way to figure out a system for taking your payments and also owning that like, manual that works for you right now. If that's what works, that's what works, right? Just because there are technologies and systems and if this, then that things that are out there, it doesn't mean that it's easier for you to use them. For example, I love to write, so yes, there's chatGPT. There's even a bot on profitablepilates.com there is a bot that's trained of 10 million of my words from podcasts, from courses, coaching calls, seven years of coaching calls and Slack, 10 million of my words. I certainly could say to my own bot, write me a post about this, and I don't, because even though that would be, in quotes, easier, it takes away the joy that I get from doing it. And there's certain things, even doing something like sending payment reminders, there's something in that that's bringing you joy, and that's why you do it a different way, and that's okay. So thank you for letting us all learn from you and be on your journey with you. It's really beautiful. Lesley Logan 6:17  My win. Last April, I heard about a way that my assistant could take over my inbox. I think it was April or May. And I even have the book, and I have all the things, and I just hadn't taken the time to figure it out. We had so much other things going on, and while it would have saved me time to do that, it would have taken more time to do it. So I was just like, no, I'm going to read this book at the end of the year, beginning of the new year, and I will implement it in Q1. So, I can proudly say that here we are the end of Q1 and my assistant and I are implementing this where I am not in my inbox everyday, I actually get to go in there and just read the things that she needs me to respond to and it's not because I don't want to hear from you. First of all, none of you email me. You all DM me, or if you're a member, we talk in our community places. So it's not about putting a barrier up to other people. The reality is, is that an inbox it's like I'm giving away my feelings of the day and how my day will go to random people who are asking for different things that have nothing to do with each other, all at the same time. There's so many different things in an inbox that can take over the day, right? Whereas, if I have my assistant go through my inbox each day and either respond, delete, or put in a folder for me to respond to, it can be more on my timeline, a.k.a boundaries. So while, by the time this is placed, it's been more than a year that I've thought about doing this, that's not the point. The point is, and the win is that I gave myself a deadline, gave myself a timeline to do it, and got my team on board to do it, and now it's being implemented, and it will take some time. You know, it takes some time to build a new system. I'm not really good with details, so we'll see how this goes. But I really am excited to have more time to be creative and to be in my communities that I've built, because that's where I want to play. I want to play in my communities. I don't want to read an email from a random person who bought my email off a list, who's trying to sell me on why someone should be against my podcast. I want things filtered so I can look at those at the time that I want to look at those, so I can spend the time for the people that I do this for, which is you. So anyways, that is my win, implementing something I wanted to do around the time that I wanted to do it. Boom. We did it. Lesley Logan 8:38  All right. Here we go. Let's see, what are we taking away? What are we taking into this weekend? What's our poem, mantra, affirmation, thing to think about? My well-being hinges on being able to hold what hurts, love what's being neglected, and enthusiastically work with what I've got. Well, that's pretty cool. My well-being hinges on being able to hold what hurts, so not hold on, hold what hurts, love what's being neglected and enthusiastically work with what I've got. Here's to not waiting for everything to be perfect and working with what we got. You are amazing. I adore you. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 9:19  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Are your eating habits supporting the life you want to live? Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell break down key takeaways from Lisa Salisbury's interview, focusing on mindful eating, food habits, and breaking free from unconscious patterns. Learn how to assess your hunger, build a better relationship with food, and take control without guilt or restriction.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The emotional connection to food and why it matters.How childhood conditioning impacts your eating habits.How to break free from the Clean Your Plate Club mindset.The importance of avoiding extreme hunger or fullness.A simple two-bite challenge to help you check in with your hunger.Episode References/Links:eLevate Retreat - https://lesleylogan.co/elevateMullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukSpring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comLadder Barrel Exercises - https://beitpod.com/barrelexercisesLisa Salisbury Website - https://wellwithlisa.comInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/well_with_lisaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/wellwithlisaIf you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey Be a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Are you actually connecting to the food that you're eating, and do you know why you eat the way that you eat? I think these are really interesting questions to ask yourself, because if it is getting in the way from you having the life you want to live, or it's becoming a crutch of some kind, it's worth evaluating. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to discuss the liberating convo I had with Lisa Salisbury in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you should listen to it at some point, because it's so good. Before, during after, go back and forth between the two. You do you, you. There's like different ways of doing everything. And this is episode 503. Brad Crowell 1:19  503 Lesley Logan 1:20  And we just said a big thank you before we hit record with you guys, to our amazing production team, because we've had the same producers this whole time. There's podcasts I listen to of people that I really admire, and every other year they're with another company. And I'm like, you know what? Why are you with so many different companies? What? Brad Crowell 1:38  That's weird. Lesley Logan 1:38  Now, if it's because I read that you scored $170 million you do you, no jealousy, no judgment, no curious. I see it, not announcing, if they're not paying you to be there, why are you switching? What's going on? Anyways, just go out of your minds. Today is March 27th 2025 and it is Scribble Day. Yep, Scribble Day is observed on March 27th annually, and it's all about celebrating the creativity and the art associated with scribbling, which anyone can do, regardless of their artistic abilities. So the last time you scribbled aimlessly to relieve boredom, you might have probably not known that there's actually a day to celebrate the stress releasing act of scribbling.Brad Crowell 2:18  Yes, our production team is gonna go, Brad, why did you adjust Lesley's microphone while she was talking? So that was me, my fault, and I don't think they're gonna be able to edit it out. Lesley Logan 2:27  No. And guess what? Brad Crowell 2:28  100% they won't. Lesley Logan 2:29  I just didn't want it, I didn't want to stop. I was I hadn't made a mistake, I hadn't made a mistake on any of the sentences. And I wanted to keep going. Brad Crowell 2:36  Well, you nailed it. You slayed that. Lesley Logan 2:37  Also, I really appreciate that they mentioned that, like, it's regardless of your artistic abilities, because, I often am disappointed in my, here's the thing, this is the recovering perfectionist in me who is letting it go that you put your hand in front of the camera to pick the mic. I don't think my scribbling is good. Brad Crowell 2:55  But it's a scribble, it's not supposed to be good. Lesley Logan 2:57  I know, but I want it to look pretty. There's people who are like. Brad Crowell 3:00  Is scribbling pretty? Lesley Logan 3:02  No, but people can draw like, really pretty hearts and stuff. My hearts are like, my star, I look, I just look like a seven year old still scribbles. Brad Crowell 3:10  Fortunately, there's a day for that. Lesley Logan 3:11  There's a day for it, and actually it, there's no, because it's just, it's relieving boredom, and I think it's great. So anyways, also, if you are bored in today's day and age, we want to hear you on the be it pod, because we need all your tips.Brad Crowell 3:26  No, I think it just means that they don't have a smartphone.Lesley Logan 3:30  Yeah, they don't have their friends, literally. Brad Crowell 3:33  They don't have the easiest-to-distract-yourself device in the history of our world. Lesley Logan 3:38  I know. You know what, on a podcast I listen to, they talk about, apparently, your phone can tell you how many times you pick up your phone. This one guy, he picked it up 273 times in a day. 273 times in a day. How many minutes are in a day?Brad Crowell 3:50  All right, so we're gonna figure this out literally right now. So we're gonna go right now. Okay, go to Settings. Go to screen time. So just search for screen time. If you all want to join us on this, if you have an iPhone, go to your settings and go to screen time you're gonna look at.Lesley Logan 4:05  Today, I've only had 67 pickups. Oh, I went. Brad Crowell 4:08  See all app and website activity? Okay. And then go to day.Lesley Logan 4:16  Yeah, pickups, yesterday, I only did 109.Brad Crowell 4:19  Oh, mine is 109 also. What the? Mine's today, though.Lesley Logan 4:24  Okay, but mine today, I've only had 67.Brad Crowell 4:26  Oh yeah, yesterday I did 136.Lesley Logan 4:28  Okay, so here's the deal. I think that's a lot. I don't know, but if there's 24 hours in a day, not that we only pick it up once in an hour, but kind of like, maybe we should try to get it under 100. Let's try. Next time we get to a topic that has to do with boredom, we'll let you know. We'll update you. Anyways.Brad Crowell 4:45  My screen time yesterday was almost 10 hours. Lesley Logan 4:49  Yeah, but we can't judge we were on a plane, you guys, playing video games for 15 hours. So I don't think that. Brad Crowell 4:54  That is true. Lesley Logan 4:55  But okay, anyways, just going back to the boredom thing. So figure it out, because I actually heard one host was like, I have 88 and he was surprised by 88 and to me, like 60, because we work on our phones, I don't think it should actually be nothing. Brad Crowell 5:08  It's a little hard when I'm like, on an hour long zoom call on my phone.Lesley Logan 5:12  Yeah, but maybe we could figure out a day off. Maybe we should find a day off average and then take our weekday average and try to get it just a little bit more than a day off average. Okay. Brad Crowell 5:22  We'll see. Lesley Logan 5:22  That has nothing to do with today's guest or Scribble Day. Hey, we're back from P.O.T. Denver and about to kick off our annual eLevate retreat. You guys, oh my God, it's like, literally, in three days. They're like, coming here soon. I'm so excited. We, I have so many prizes for them. We have a special guest for them. We have, I mean, I can't even wait. So anyways, I'm stoked to see them, we have 17 eLevate grads coming. If you want to come to an eLevate retreat, you have to be an eLevator. If you want to know how to be an eLevator, you need to go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. Okay, Brad's not happy with the mic still. I'm talking right at it. I don't know what else to do. Okay. Also, you guys coming up very soon, in April, we're going to be announcing our second Mullet Tour. It's that UK tour we did where we do business in the morning and Pilates in the evening.Brad Crowell 6:09  It's business in the front, Pilates in the back that's why it's the Mullet Tour. Lesley Logan 6:15  And we're doing two cities for this tour, and it's going to be this fall. So you want to go to opc.me/uk to be on the wait list, because those on the waitlist are going to get invited to the early bird. And you know what? It could sell out on early bird. So you want to go to opc.me/uk to get on the waitlist. So you get the early bird special. Brad Crowell 6:31  Spots are definitely gonna be limited, because we're, you know, we're doing it in some studio. Lesley Logan 6:36  It's when we do our (inaudible). It's like they're just small spaces, and we're only doing two days, I think one day in each city. I'm pretty sure it's of almost. Brad Crowell 6:43  Two days in each city, pretty sure. Lesley Logan 6:45  I don't know. I feel like it's a tight squeeze. Just get on the waitlist and you'll find out. If you're in Europe, you should come, just fly over. Brad Crowell 6:52  Go to opc.me/uk for anyone, anywhere. Coming up at the end of April, we've got our spring training. This is the first time we've ever done this before, and we're focusing on drum roll, please. The Pilates push up. Lesley Logan 7:08  The Pilates push up. So if you hate them, this is for you. If you love them, this is for you. We're gonna have 10 classes over the course of one week, all to help you get the most out of your push ups, either to make them more accessible or more possible, or help you realize, like, how freaking strong you already are. Don't worry if you don't have the equipment, we have a mat ticket as well. So go to opc.me/events, because that's going to get you on the waitlist. And those on the waitlist are going to be invited early, and those invited earlier are going to get a better price, than those who are not on the waitlist. So if you're an OPC member, you get the best price. It's called free.Brad Crowell 7:42  So if you want it for free, join OPC. If you want it for free, join OPC.Lesley Logan 7:48  Yeah, yeah, okay. But that's going to be in April, and it will end on International Pilates Day weekend, which we're very excited about. Brad Crowell 7:56  Yeah, go to opc.me/events and then, if you are a Pilates business owner and are taking clients in any way, shape or form, whether that's in the park or at your house, in a studio, and you're booking and taking payments from your clients. I want you to join me on the next upcoming Studio Growth Accelerator and what we're going to do is talk about the three massive secrets that Lesley and I have figured out after coaching more than 2500 businesses just like yours on all the things over the past, geez, seven plus years now, we've boiled it down to three major things that you need to understand in order to grow your income as a business owner, it's totally free. I want you to join me by going to prfit.biz/accelerator. That is profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. You'll find out when the next webinar is, and come join me. Finally.Lesley Logan 8:49  What we just, like, when we're recording this. We're literally 24 hours back from Cambodia, but we want to invite you to the next time we're going to Cambodia for our Pilates retreat. There we have classes, we have breath work workshops. We have workshops that will help you love your life and have a lot of fun. We go on Temple tours. We have the most amazing schedule, I'm just gonna say, literally during the retreat, multiple times, multiple people said, I just really love the schedule of this retreat. It's so nice. Brad Crowell 9:16  Yeah, the flow of the events. Lesley Logan 9:18  The flow of it. It is. Brad Crowell 9:19  If you've ever been on a retreat and they had events lined up from six in the morning till like midnight, and you just completely fried. And the things were good, but it was just too much. We don't do that. If you've been to other retreats where they're like, we're so happy that you're here, you've got an entire day to yourself. Yeah, we don't do that either. It's a great balance, right in the middle. Lesley Logan 9:39  Like the little, most perfect schedule. Brad Crowell 9:40  Y'all, we've done like, a dozen of these, so it's been a lot of making adjustments. And in fact, every single time we do a retreat, we evaluate it and we say, did we do it the way we liked it? How did it go? And we're at the point now, y'all where, literally, we have the timeline of events completely dialed in, and what we just did three days ago was we sat down with peach, who is part of our group over there, and she is part of the team that helps take care of us, and we said, hey, we want to rearrange the temple tour visits and see if we can't add in yet another temple in there. And we figured out a way to do it. So we're really excited. It's the temple that Lesley and I haven't even visited yet it's exciting, so. Lesley Logan 10:21  Yeah it's really, really cool. And so just we want you to come. And I have had so many people say the next one, the next one. I've told someone like you said the next one three times. I know we have so many things coming up, so I want you to know something's always going to come up. There's many fires all the time. So go to crowsnestretreats.com because we want you to come on this next one, which is in October. And I'm telling you, we had two people sign up very last minute. We had someone who signed up five months in advance, which I guess is not last minute. We had someone sign up two months in advance, so you can sign up. And we've also had people, most of them are people with children who've come on their own because they deserve a week where we fill their cup for them. So come to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot. All right, we have so much to talk about Lisa, but we have an audience question to answer? Brad Crowell 11:08  We do. Ashley Crosby from Instagram says, hi, Lesley, I'm back with another DIY question. Do you have any good recommendations on a DIY video to make a Ladder Barrel rung cover? I've been taught to use a blue knee pad to support our feet, but I have tiny feet and the pad makes me feel less secure. Do you have any suggestions? Lesley Logan 11:28  Yeah. So in this question afterwards, they sent me a bunch of other information about why this blue knee pad situation is happening. So first of all, if you are a Pilates person and you've used a Ladder Barrel before, this is what we're talking about. We're talking about in the ladder barrel there are rungs on the ladder, and you have to put your feet on these rungs. And a lot of people are taught to hook their feet on the rung. So if, like, you're watching on YouTube, it's like that hard flex, kind of like you do at the gym, to, like, stick your feet underneath a bar, to kind of hook in, to do sit ups, because your feet keep coming off the ground. That's kind of what we're talking about here. That being said, that's not actually how you're supposed to put your feet. You're supposed to. Brad Crowell 12:02  Oh for Pilates Ladder Barrel you don't, you're not supposed to hook your feet. Lesley Logan 12:05  No, you shouldn't hook your feet. Brad Crowell 12:07  Wait, sorry. So I don't, I don't even understand where this blue knee pad would go. It's supposed to go between your foot and the foot bars to hurt, to protect your foot? Lesley Logan 12:14  Yes, so your foot's not pulling up against like wood, so the pad's there.Brad Crowell 12:19  So you're not even supposed to hook your feet. So this entire purpose is this blue knee pad is irrelevant?Lesley Logan 12:23  Yes, but they're doing it because they think that hooking the foot is safe, and then people complained about the wood hurting their feet, so they're like, let's put a pad here. Brad Crowell 12:32  And then it's still unsafe. Lesley Logan 12:34  Well, and it's unsafe for this person, but also it's not helping you get the connections you need. So when you're doing short box on the Ladder Barrel, which is when this would happen, you're actually supposed to stand on the feet. So you want to put your feet on not the top top rung, but the second rung, or you can even go lower. This is in my flashcard. This is in all my tutorials free. Put the arch of your feet on there, like you're doing bird on a perch during footwork. And then you push, not so much that you're straightened, but kind of like if you were, like, doing a wall squat, you know how like you, like, are pushing into the floor, but you're stuck in a wall squat, you want to push in them so your butt turns on. And if you hook with your feet, it's really hard to get your butt to turn on, and then it's unfortunately, going to help turn on your hip flexors when you're coming up and down, versus keeping your butt on. So Ashley, here's the deal, if you have to do these things because it's rules of studio, pay attention to the rules. But if you have the ability to do it the way that it's meant to be done, then your tiny feet are not an issue, because this, that whatever part of your arch can go on the bar is what you need. It's all you need. Brad Crowell 13:41  It's all you need. Lesley Logan 13:42  And if you want to go to onlinepilatesclasses.com/ladderbarrelexercises. Brad Crowell 13:48  No, it's slash ladder dash barrel dash exercises. Lesley Logan 13:52  Correct. I was going to say with a hyphen in between all the words. Brad Crowell 13:55  Yeah. onlinepilatesclasses.com/ladder-barrel-exercisesLesley Logan 13:59  Yeah, you can see all of our exercise. You'll see how my foot setup is. And know you, so don't, you don't need.Brad Crowell 14:05  They're all the videos that you would need. They're all the DIY videos. Well, they're not DIY videos for making a Ladder Barrel rung cover, because you don't need a ladder barrel rung cover at all. Lesley Logan 14:14  Some people have created one that is made out of like a sheep's skin or sheep fur, whatever, because that's like, antibacterial, antimicrobial, anti whatever. At any rate, some people have made this, I find that they're quite slippery. And again, you don't need it. Why are we buying things we don't need when you can just use your muscles. So full permission to use your muscles. Brad is trying to look up different things, you guys, they're like, legit. So they're like, they're like. Brad Crowell 14:43  50 bucks for a little piece of cloth that wraps around your barrel.Lesley Logan 14:47  Yeah, yep, yep. Oh, you know what you could get? The cover that I use to do back squats, the cover that you use to do back squats, I bet would work. I bet it would fit, because it's Velcro. And that was, like, $12 or $25 online. So I guess if you are like Lesley, I'm adamant I have to hook my feet, you don't know what you're talking about, then you can do that. You could probably use a back squat rung cover. Anyways, there's just so many different changes that people have made to the practice, and it's not about classical versus contemporary. It's just like people changing exercises because someone complained about things. And it's like, maybe you're not doing it right, or you might not be ready for it yet, and that's a different story. So hopefully this saved you money on a pad you don't need. Send your questions in and we'll answer them. Brad Crowell 15:33  All right, stick around. We're going to be talking about Lisa Salisbury and her tips on food and how we treat food in our lives. Okay, welcome back now. Let's talk about Lisa Salisbury. Lisa is a certified Health, Life, and Weight Loss Coach, holds a BS in Health and Human Performance and is the host of the podcast Eat Well, Think Well, Live Well. Lisa is passionate about helping people build a healthier relationship with food and regaining control of their eating habits. Whether weight loss is the goal or not, she focuses on self awareness and creating sustainable strategies to foster a sense of balance and well being. Lesley Logan 16:10  Yeah, I thought that she was very fascinating. There's so many different ways that you can address this topic, and I just really appreciated her like enthusiasm and love and kindness and grace around it. And she said, food is connection. It always has been, even in our hunter-gatherer days, they ate together. For her, every meal should be enjoyable and delicious, not just thought of as fuel. And I kind of like this, because a lot of times the way to break your emotional connection to food is to go food is fuel. Food is fuel. And it's not your comfort food. But for her, she was like, no, no. I mean, it's fuel, but every meal should be delicious and it should be enjoyable. And something since we just got back from Cambodia that this makes me think about is we set the table for every meal, right? In Cambodia, we put placements out, and we put the silverware out, and we put napkins out, and every meal had colorful fruit and we had this beautiful ambiance. It's really interesting how on a retreat, every meal was kind of an event. And of course, the food was delicious, and we all ate together. And like, we sat there and we ate together, we talked. And like, we have an hour for food because we take a good half an hour because we're just all chit-chatting and like, talking about things and getting to know each other more. And no one's on their phones, because we're all eating a meal together, right? And so she emphasizes that value of family traditions to create meaningful meal time moments, meaningful meal time moments. Brad Crowell 17:32  The Triple M threat. Lesley Logan 17:34  Yeah, she sets a table properly, and you sit at the dining room table, and she believes that the act of eating together is more important than what we're eating. And I thought that's so cool, because we've had different guests on before who were like, do you ever just sit and eat your meal, or are you like on your phone while you're eating your meal? And one of the things that I think is causing people to overeat or be hungry all day long is that they're actually not eating the food that they're eating when they're eating it, they're kind of just doing other things, and they're not paying attention to it. But there's something about we slow we slow down, we chew our food. We like taste the food when we're having a meal with people, and it creates connection. And I think a lot of people are just missing connection these days. And I think you could do this, even if you're single. You can also, oh my God, for my single people here's what you can do, you can set a place for two, because the other place could be little you creating space for a partner, and you could be going through the act of taking the time to put a placement out for that, like, whatever you want to do, but like, you could do that, and then you could sit there, and you could enjoy the food, and you can have beautiful music playing, or maybe beautiful flowers to look at, and just actually enjoy your food.Brad Crowell 18:42  I think it's great. I mean, I love the intention as well. Of the two placemats, you know, you're setting it for the future person. That's really cool. I know you used to do that with coffee. Lesley Logan 18:50  For you. Brad Crowell 18:51  For me, yeah.Lesley Logan 18:52  I mean, you, it wasn't for you first. It was just for the person who's going to be here. But then you took the coffee so, you know, anyways, what did you love?Brad Crowell 19:01  Well, actually, I wanted to just comment. She said a couple things about how we were trained with food that I didn't see in my notes. So the idea that when we were kids, if we were causing chaos, maybe our parents were like, here, eat a fruit, roll up and shut up. Or, hey, you did a great job. For example, my parents, when we scored a goal in the soccer game, we went and bought Domino's Pizza. Lesley Logan 19:27  That's, yeah, that's what everyone does. That's the problem. Like, there's a reward for.Brad Crowell 19:32  That's the thing, is like for our parents what it was was we don't go out to eat. We will go out to eat when you score a goal. But what's also happening there is food is becoming the reward, even though that wasn't actually the intention. Yeah, the intention was, we're gonna splurge, and we'll splurge.Lesley Logan 19:51  And also that's the same thing, like, you have a bad day at school, and someone said something you're bullied to, and then the parents, let's go get ice cream, instead of feeling the feelings of what it's like to have been bullied at school.Brad Crowell 20:01  Yeah, or celebrating a moment such as square goal. But it made me wonder, this is the first time I ever thought about that. It made me wonder, has that affected my eating habits? I do think it is real, the Clean Your Plate Club situation that she talked about that blew my fucking mind. I was like, oh my God, this is crazy. I don't know why my parents said there are starving kids in Africa. I didn't know why, until that podcast, when she said we used to ship the food to Africa in the 80s. I was like, what, we did?Lesley Logan 20:30  Right. My parents are the same thing, and we did ship it. We didn't ship the food that was on your table, though, but it caused me to feel like I have to eat everything on the plate. And now, you don't, I mean, don't be wasteful. Brad Crowell 20:42  But the idea was, because we were intentionally shipping food around to share the food with the world, we should be eating all of ours. And, you know, it was just an interesting idea. It comes from the World War One and World War Two, the Clean Your Plate Club, and they literally rationed food in the United States, and so that was a thing. And it's funny. To me, it's like the leftover hoarding is like a big thing from the Great Depression, because people wanted for everything. They had nothing and so they. Lesley Logan 21:13  And you might need it, you would never get rid of it, because you might not be able to get it. Yeah, and I do think that some of these things have been passed down without us knowing why. And here's the deal, obviously, don't be wasteful with food, but also like, you know, you start to learn like, oh we don't need to make that much food.Brad Crowell 21:27  Oh, I've got to eat everything on my plate. Fascinating that this is like a generational, passed on, generational thing, and today the meaning of it is completely disconnected with the intention of it originally, and so now it's just clean your plate, because that's what you're supposed to do, you know. And so we get into this habit of eating that isn't necessarily healthy from either a mental or a physical perspective. Lesley Logan 21:51  It's not helpful whether it's healthy or not, because maybe you're, maybe you're. Brad Crowell 21:55  It could be healthy if you're doing small portion sizes, but because in the United States, portion sizes are so huge, it might not be normal.Lesley Logan 22:02  I know. I was thinking about our dinner in Singapore, and I was, we're like, oh, these is like Vegas prices for this meal. When the food came out, I was like, this is not a Vegas plate. So Vegas prices, but we got, like.Brad Crowell 22:13  Smaller portions.Lesley Logan 22:15  But it was also enough. It was also enough. So I think that that's really true. I just all of this is not to say, like, what's healthy, what's not healthy. It's like, are you actually connecting to the food that you're eating, and do you know why you eat the way that you eat? I think these are really interesting questions to ask yourself, because if it is getting in the way from you having the life you want to live, or it's becoming a crutch of some kind, it's worth evaluating.Brad Crowell 22:38  Yeah. I mean, the why, it's the why are you eating? And you know, she said it could be because you're bored or sad or frustrated or happy celebrating. She highlighted that for many it's not about weight loss, but it's about feeling like they're the ones making the decision, and not the food making the decision for them, I think we need to put that in context. It's about feeling like they're the ones making the decisions, so probably like I'm deciding to eat now, it's not that the food is making decisions for them, but it's just about control.Lesley Logan 23:08  The habits that we create for ourselves, there's no such thing as a good or bad habit. There's also no good or bad foods, right? There's just is how you are eating and how is it affecting your life, in the way that makes you available to do the things you want to do. And so if you are someone who, like, literally is craving sugar and it's distracting you from the things you want to do, so much that you actually are, like, going out and hunting for sugar, which is like an actual thing, because it's an actual food addiction, because your gut starts to crave sugar and tells you this, and you cannot stop thinking about it. And so then you can't actually write the email to the person want to pitch an idea to, because you're like, I just need to get that. Well, that's affecting your life negatively. And these kinks can be a distraction from what makes us have the energy to want to work out our gut literally tells us a lot, like, our gut microbiome tells us a lot, and what you eat trains your microbiome. So it's a whole other thing. I just thought it was really cool.Brad Crowell 24:00  Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about those, be it action items, and we're going to dig into the hunger scale, which is pretty cool. All right, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Lisa Salisbury, she mentioned she teaches the hunger scale to her clients, and it goes from negative 10 all the way to positive 10. And she said, negative 10 is like starving yourself. Positive 10 is gorging, where you're very, very full. Negative 10 very, very hungry all the way to very, very full. And she said they're equal distance from zero, which is neutral.Lesley Logan 24:37  Which I loved. I loved a neutral, instead of it being like a one to a 10 or a zero to a 10, five is the place to be. I love that. She was like, no, I'm gonna be make this as a neutral.Brad Crowell 24:48  Yeah. And she said negative 10 and plus 10 are equally uncomfortable. Right? Well, first off, the purpose of it is to build awareness of your hunger and your fullness level throughout the day, right? So she actually charts it. She tells her clients, especially if you've been measuring your macros and you're used to tracking all the stuff and weighing things and whatever. Instead of tracking all that stuff, track your fullness level. And here's how to do it, before each male pause to assess your hunger on this scale, she says, start eating when you're feeling like a negative three, right? When you're just mildly hungry, that's the nicest time to start eating. Stop eating when you're at a plus three, which she describes as you're not really feeling any pressure, you're not wishing you had stretchy pants. You're just comfortable. And she mentioned there's a moment when the body takes a pause, and it's this organic thing where you're like, you know, I'm starting to feel satiated, right? She said, avoid eating when you're overly hungry, negative seven or below, or if you're too full plus seven or above. And you know, obviously, to avoid eating at negative seven, that means you have to have eaten sooner. If you're at a negative seven, you probably should be eating.Lesley Logan 26:00  But maybe, like, have a little snack before you like, sit down for a full meal. Brad Crowell 26:03  I found that interesting too. She had a whole comment on that. She said, why are we snacking? If we're hungry, we should eat a meal.Lesley Logan 26:10  Well, that is actually also interesting. I agree. I have a friend who has a bunch of kids, and she and her husband, they make meals for the family, right? And so one of our kids came home from school and was like, you know, hey, I'm hungry. Can I have this to eat? And so the dinner is at six. If you think that that's going to hold you over till six, then yes, but if you think that you're going to be hungry between that and six, then I want you to think about what would make you satiated till six. And they were like, oh, oh, this isn't gonna be enough. And they actually, like, made half a sandwich so that they were enjoying it. So anyways, I thought that was a cool way of looking at what are you snacking on? Do you need a snack or do you really need to eat? So my biggest takeaway, she advised on eating the amount that's right for your body, paying no attention to food scales, paying no attention to the scale in your kitchen. You can do this by just experimenting with bites. And she talked about the two bite challenge. So we have another challenge for you. Leave two bites at your plate at every meal and see how you feel looking at that food on your plate. Reflect on the experience. Do you feel satisfied or still hungry? Experiment and check in with your hunger afterwards. Remember that this isn't about wasting food forever. It's about learning what you need and putting yourself in charge of your portions. And I think this is also this is also just really cool, because we all need different things at different times in our life. So how you ate at 20 is gonna be different than what you need at 30, it's gonna be different what you need at 40, it's gonna be different during a crazy work schedule versus summer time, you know, vacation time. So I think it's just about connecting with your body and noticing, am I hungry? Really? Am I just bored? There's two bites on my plate. Am I full or am I hungry? Oh, I'm hungry. Okay, I'm not giving myself the portion sizes that I needed so that I would not be a negative seven when I wake up. So it's all just important information for you, so that you're not distracted by your tummy when you're trying to make things happen in this world. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 27:58  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 27:59  Thank you so much for joining us today. I hope this is a really amazing I hope this got you thinking about you and what you're eating and how you eat it and enjoy it. If you have questions about it, feel free to let us know. If you want to send this to a friend, that would be amazing. We're working really hard and going from a 1.5% podcast to a 1% podcast. We can only do that if you download it. So share this with a friend and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 28:19  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 28:21  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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Are your eating habits helping or hurting your lifestyle? In this episode, Lesley Logan sits down with Lisa Salisbury, a health and weight loss coach, to discuss how we can redefine our relationship with food. Lisa shares insights into disordered eating, the history of the "clean plate club," and how to listen to your body's hunger signals without obsessing over diets. Tune in for practical, mindset-shifting strategies to enjoy food while making choices that truly serve you.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Lisa's own journey from chronic dieting to mindful eating.Dieting for weight loss versus having a healthy relationship with food.How food connects people and why eating should be about enjoyment.The surprising history behind the "clean plate club" and its lasting effects.The signs of disordered eating and how to shift towards intuitive eating.How to identify hunger cues and stop eating before feeling overfull.The two-bite challenge: recognizing fullness without food guilt.Episode References/Links:Lisa Salisbury Website - https://wellwithlisa.comInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/well_with_lisaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/wellwithlisaLesley on Eat Well, Think Well, Live Well Podcast - https://beitpod.com/ep104Guest Bio:Lisa Salisbury is a former chronic dieter on a mission to help women stop obsessing about everything they eat and feel confident in their ability to lose weight without a diet app. She teaches them to stop counting and calculating all their food and check in with their body. Most of all, she helps women make their lives amazing so food doesn't have the job of comforter, compensator and celebrator. She hosts the top 100 podcast Eat Well, Think Well, Live Well. She is a certified Health, Life and Weight Loss Coach, with a BS in Health and Human Performance. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lisa Salisbury 0:00  Food has always brought people together, because you cook in big batches, and it's just kind of the way humans evolved to eat together. And so there is connection with food. And if we try to pretend that there isn't, I think it's just a losing battle.Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:59  All right, loves, I'm gonna tell you right now that I am pleasantly surprised, amazed, like, excited for this episode that you're about to listen to. I'm gonna let you in a little secret. I do my very best not to have, like, a weight loss as a topic for being it till you see it, because there's just a lot around that, and it's complicated. And also, I don't want anyone out there thinking that weight loss or their weight is actually the thing that's keeping them from being it till they see it. But there are things around our health and wellness and how we eat that can be. And so today's episode, I really hope that you do listen to it and you're not turned off by if their weight loss was in the title, or anything like that, that you actually take a listen because, especially if you are around my age or a little bit older, our relationship with food and how food was used can be complicated, even if we think we have a great one. And today's guest is Lisa Salisbury, and she's an incredible podcast host. I was able to be on her podcast, and the thing that I really love the most about this is it's not about weight loss at all. She actually, multiple times encourage people to eat more, and I think her story will resonate with a lot of you as well. What this is is about how we can and it's not also about like thinking food is just this boring cardboard. It's about how we choose to eat and how we eat, and how we can really make our lives more full in a good way, and not through, like over full through food. So I'm just gonna stop talking, because her words are so beautiful, and she's so thoughtful, and she's incredibly well researched in what she is doing, and I got a whole history lesson in here, so I'm just gonna say freaking great, super awesome, super informative. And I hope this gives you the permission that you might need when it comes to, hey, sit down with your meals, or if you sit down with your meals, or if you needed to be reminded to eat more, or if you just needed permission, like my husband gave me, to just leave some food on the plate. So here is Lisa Salisbury. Lesley Logan 2:59  All right, Be It babe, I'm so excited to have this conversation. It's one we haven't had on the podcast before, and I think it's a really important one as a child from the 80s who was told to clean her plate because there's people starving in other places. It's interesting how that can affect how you how your whole life ends up being. And so I have Lisa Salisbury here. She is the host of Eat Well, Think Well, Be Well. And, nope, it's Eat Well, Think Well, Live Well. Let's get it right, Lesley. Anyways, we'll make sure that link is in the notes so it's just easy for you to find her amazing podcast. I was a guest on it, and I'm and so you can always start off with that episode. Lisa, thank you so much for being here. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Lisa Salisbury 3:39  Yeah, great. Thanks for having me, Lesley. I, like you said, my name is Lisa Salisbury. I'm a health coach and weight loss coach and podcaster. I was a chronic dieter, as many, many of you, and like you said, people from the 80s. So, started dieting in high school, started having babies, then in my 20s, and so my weight was just on an absolute roller coaster. And it's really quite a long story, as it is, for a lot of people, of how they get into the health and fitness space, health world, any kind of that sort of influence, and it's just usually through your own experiences, which was the same for me. So I just realized, hey, I don't want to do this anymore. I don't want to diet anymore. And I got my health coaching certification. And even through that, I thought I wasn't dieting. I thought that my last ditch effort to quote-unquote lose all of that baby weight was macro counting. And so I thought I wasn't dieting because I thought, oh, this is okay, because I can eat whatever I want as long as it fits your macros. That's like their tagline, right?Lesley Logan 4:41  It's kind of the same thing with Weight Watchers. It's kind of like you can eat whatever you want as long as it's in your points. So it's kind of like that, yeah.Lisa Salisbury 4:46  Right. Yeah, totally. And so my acute study partner that I had during that health coaching course, she gently, so gently, during the eating disorder, we said, oh, is there anything that you're noticing about yourself here? When we were talking about orthorexia, and she was really sweet, and really just opened my eyes to the fact that I was so anxious about meeting my macros that it was really affecting the way I showed up in the world. And so the first time that I sat down and ate lunch without weighing my portions was kind of like mind blowing for me to be like, oh, I'll just let my body decide when I've had enough. There was actually a big increase in anxiety. But then over time, of course, as I let that go, I saw, you know, just a change in my health as far as mental health around food. And then I went on to start coaching, and realized that most of my clients needed help around not so much about what to eat, you know, give them a food plan, but why they were eating when they didn't really want to be eating. Why they were eating when they were bored, frustrated, sad, confused. Why they were eating when they weren't hungry. And so that's when I went and got my life coaching certification, and I really helped them figure out that emotional eating piece which can or cannot have anything to do with weight loss. I have several clients come to me that are just like, I just want to be healthier around my relationship with food. And so whether they lose weight or not is neither here nor there, because they just want to feel like they're the ones making the decisions, and not the food making the decisions for them. Lesley Logan 4:46  I love that you shared that last part about it's not necessarily about the weight loss for most people, it's like the relationship with food. My grandmother was a chronic dieter. Like, up 100 pounds down 100 pounds up, 100 pounds down. She was so pissed when they took Fin-Phen away from her. Like, she was like, this is the thing that worked. And I'm like, so it's killing people. They and they know it. Lisa Salisbury 6:29  Small detail.Lesley Logan 6:47  Yeah. And so, like, I grew up around that, that is what the word diet actually means. When it's, what diet actually means, it's like, how you eat, not just like that you're on a diet, we're, every any which way you eat is a diet, guys, it's just that it's like some but we are trained that that word means, you're on a diet, you're trying to lose weight. And so then, there's people who are like, well, I just want to love the body that I'm in, and you can but if food is dictating how you are doing your life, and when you do things in your life, that can be a problem in allowing you to live the best life that you want to live. I want to just go back to something really quickly, and then I have, okay, orthorexia for the people who don't know what that word is, can you share what that is? Lisa Salisbury 7:29  Yeah, that's kind of the obsession with eating healthy. So it's a fairly new eating disorder. In fact, I have to say, I'm not even sure if it's in the DSM yet, but it is being recognized as a real issue. So a lot of times, this is what we call just disordered eating. When you look at someone's nutrition, when they're like, here's what I ate today, and it's clearly, you know, from a list of 10 foods that are approved in their brains. That's orthorexia, having a lot of anxiety around, for example, I called a restaurant, I remember this particular time, they were a small restaurant, so they didn't have their nutritional information available to me, wasn't like a big chain, you know? And they're like, oh, if you email us, we can send it to you. And they didn't, and I called them several times to get it. That's orthorexia, right, to be so anxious that I need to put my macros in and hit it plus or minus five every single day. And some people think that's a great game. Some people are like, that's my favorite game with Tetris to play. Great. That's fine. You can absolutely count off macros and not have orthorexia, totally. That didn't work for me. My brain, I was like, I have to do this. And if I didn't, what was weird is I went to a lot of times, I would be like, well, I can't. And so now it's a cheat day. Now it's a eat whatever I want sort of day which is also disordered. Lesley Logan 8:56  Yeah, I feel like there's more people with disordered eating than maybe they recognize. You mentioned a few signs of orthorexia, and some of those equal disordered eating. Is there any other signs of disordered eating? And mostly because what I'm hoping for today is I've always tried to make sure that everyone feels super loved on this show, that every listener knows even if I'm a Pilates instructor, I'm not here to make anyone change their body. I'm here about moving people, because I know movement heals and it's mental health and it's all this stuff, but I also know that there are things that we do out of habits and especially around food, that can be affecting us, having an amazing mental health life, or having fun in our life, or actually focusing on other things in our life. So if you can talk about like, some of the signs of disordered eating that people might not necessarily recognize.Lisa Salisbury 9:42  I think having just a really small list of foods that you are able to consume. So if you're like, I only eat chicken and these two kinds of fish or so if your list is really small, if you're excluding foods that are considered whole foods. So if you're excluding things, especially entire groups of food, like all carbohydrates, or if you're like a potato, which is grown in the ground, is somehow bad for you, obviously barring allergy or, you know, insensitivity, that kind of thing. But if you've excluded several whole foods, that would be concerning. If you're excluding ultra-processed foods, that's great. Let's do that. Lesley Logan 9:58  You're fine, everyone. Lisa Salisbury 10:33  Yeah. But if we're like, hey, we're going to exclude all kinds of different whole foods, then that would be kind of a hallmark if you are eating on the clock. So if you are like, I cannot, should not, not supposed to those types of words, eat before my alarm goes off at 1 pm there's a difference between intermittent fasting and being starving and gritting your teeth until 1 pm until 2 pm, until that moment, right? So you have to really look and check in with yourself is, am I doing this because I really, actually feel amazing, or am I doing this because if I don't, anxiety will skyrocket, because if I don't, I will have somehow lost control. Or if I, does that make sense?Lesley Logan 11:19  It totally makes sense. Also, it makes sense because I've been listening to Mindy Pelz on her fast like a girl thing, which is, yeah. And I would listen to her thing in the way she describes how you should feel on the fast. And then she's also very careful to qualify, like, if you have somewhat disordered eating, you should be doing this as a professional, and not on your own. And what's interesting is, as I was doing the fast like a girl thing, I was very consciously aware, like, okay, how am I going to do this? So I don't have control issues around it, because having grown up with the history of my grandma being on a diet, off the diet, so then, of course, I was, I'm the girl who was pulling out the magazine articles on all the exercises and putting them in a binder to do all of them, and then totally eliminating whole food groups most of high school and college. So I'm just really aware that it's easy for me to go, oh, this is like, something like, it's healthy to do it, so I'm gonna do it like this, and then get controlled about it. So, like, okay, I'm just gonna interestingly pretend to do it and see how I feel. And she had these tools. If you do get hungry, but you're not famished and you just need, you can do a cup of coffee. And so I was trying it out, and I could tell the difference between being like, I am really, actually hungry right now and I need to eat something, versus I'm actually just bored right now because I normally eat at eight. Lisa Salisbury 11:19  Right, right, yeah. Lesley Logan 11:29  Which is a really fascinating thing, because it's like, okay, well, I could do other I could do other things, then, why am I choosing to eat at eight o'clock, versus like, so it's just a really interesting thing, because you can't, I can see how someone could over control the healthy intermittent fasting process and make it an unhealthy thing for them. So thank you for sharing that. I want to just like, pick your brain a little bit, because you have so much information around this. You know, so many people are raised where food is a reward for, like, getting good grades or you're feeling bad. So then there's food, and then we have to eat. Can we talk a little bit about relationship with food? And like, are we supposed to just be agnostic? How do we what are we supposed to feel with food? Because I think it's really interesting, right? It's like a fun thing. Like, I want to get some ice cream right now. Like, how are we supposed to think about food in our lives? Lisa Salisbury 13:21  It's such an interesting topic, because you'll find you know coaches who have trained at the same exact schools that I have will give you wildly different answers. Some people are like, food is fuel. That is it. You only eat it for fuel. And I have never, I tried that for a little while, and I never could get on board. I never could get on board with food as fuel, because the truth is, food is connection, and it always has been. Even in hunter-gatherer days, they ate together, right? I mean, I don't know, maybe the documentaries are incorrect. I wasn't there, but I think most tribal groups still ate together. Food has always brought people together, because you cook in big batches, and it's just kind of the way humans evolved to eat together. And so there is connection with food. And if we try to pretend that there isn't, I think it's just a losing battle. And so I have decided every time I eat I want it to be delicious, and when I think about food being fuel, that sounds like cardboard to me, right? Like, just hook me up to an IV, there's like. Lesley Logan 14:28  No one's ever been excited to go get filled. I mean, like, no one is excited to fill up their gas tank, right? If you think about it, how many of us are waiting until, like, I've got one mile left, I better go, You know what I mean? So it's not exciting, and not the food has to be exciting. But I do love that you brought up connection because I think so many of us lack that in our daily lives. So much stuff is like, I mean, we're here on Zoom, right? So much stuff is digital and virtual, and so there's not that space. But I also think how much we've lost the connection around the eating as well. People eat alone at work, they eat at their desk, you know what I mean, or they're at home, working remote. They're by themselves. And so that would be an interesting maybe goal. It's like, how many meals can you actually have sitting down with someone that you love or care about or want to spend time with?Lisa Salisbury 15:12  It's actually a huge point that I make with my clients, because when we're talking about waiting until we're hungry to eat, because that's the nicest time to eat, by the way, is when you're hungry, when you're just mildly hungry, that's the nicest time to start eating. And so we talk about, okay, what does your lifestyle look like? What time do you eat with a family? Do you eat with a spouse? And what time is that? And we adjust the rest of their day and the rest of their eating if need be around that piece, because the relationships come first. And so I think that's kind of another thing about food, is that we want to focus on, I actually want to have dinner with my family regardless of what we're eating. The important piece is that we, and I still insist on this, because I'm neurotic. We set the table placements and everything. And like my kids know how, every one of them knows how to set a proper table, like where the fork goes and the cup and everything, because we sit and have dinner as a family. And so because that is important to me, it's far more important than what we're eating. And so I want food to be enjoyable, but it's not just about the food and when you're eating, and it's only about the food, and it's only about how good the food tastes. That's when you overeat, that's when you take in too much, that's when you feel yuck afterwards. That's when you're like, because the truth is, it doesn't matter if you're trying to lose weight or if you're not trying to lose weight, even if you're trying to gain weight, like, if you're trying to gain muscle or whatever, overeating actually feels terrible. We pretend that it doesn't. We pretend that it's so fun. We pretend like, oh, this was like, amazing, and, oh, I'm stuffed. And we pretend to have a happy face. But inside, let's think about how your body feels. It's not good. Lesley Logan 16:15  It's not good. You don't even feel great the next morning, sometimes. Everyone loves Thanksgiving. I have to be so honest, I'm so grateful that my family is like, there's only four of us. It's not worth buying anything. Let's go to a restaurant. We have no leftovers. I love that, because there's a whole pressure around some of those holiday meals, like overeat. But it's true, and maybe we get this a good time to ask you, I don't actually people know when full is. Do you know what I mean? Like, I was listening to something about how, in Japan, they teach kids from the age of five how to eat until they're 80% full, how to know what that feels like. They, also, they take a bite of one thing, and they take a bite of a different thing and take a bite of a different thing, and so they're putting their fork down. They're enjoying the bite. They're enjoying the food. I don't eat, like that, I'm gonna eat all the salad, and then I'm gonna eat all the meat. I think that it has taken me, as a 41-year-old, oh, I'm full now, and to, like, stop eating no matter how delicious it is. And I think that's a really difficult thing. Like, where does that come from? Are we just so lacking and delicious food that we just keep going? Or, like, is it a learned behavior that we have?Lisa Salisbury 17:59  I definitely think it's learned behavior because if you watch a toddler eat, first of all, they're usually far too busy playing to eat. And then if you're like, Hey, come on, come on, you could drill them to the table when they're done, they're done, you cannot get that last bite of macaroni and cheese in them if they do not want to eat it. That's just it. When you're two, you actually are really good at hunger and fullness cues. I mean, really, babies, they don't stop nursing because the milk is out. They, the milk runs out because they've stopped nursing and trained, they train the mother, right? You, if you have been a nursing mother, or been associated or seen your sister, or whatever, their milk supply adjusts not immediately. I mean, I could have nursed triplets when I first had a baby, but eventually, it adjusts based on the child. And so we teach our children that you should eat past full a couple of ways. Number one, we offer them food and snacks to cure boredom and as rewards and to fix their owies, right? So we teach them that food is the answer to a lot of their emotional problems. I did this, too. I have four kids. I did it. I, no judgment, no shame. This is just what you do as a parent, because it works. It's fine, it's normal. Lesley Logan 18:00  Yeah, I have no judgment, because I have seen a crying kid sometimes, like on an airplane, like, how do we stop? Yeah.Lisa Salisbury 19:27  Yeah. Like, please give that kid some goldfish. So I think that's the first thing that we do as parents. And then the other thing that we do to keep our kids from paying attention and letting them go by their own physical fullness cues is the clean your plate. You've got to clean your plate. You have to eat this if you want dessert. No more potatoes, if you don't eat the broccoli and that sort of thing. And so it really kind of messes with because they're like, well, I want the ice cream. And so they force down whatever is on their plate. And then, put ice cream on top of that. And so they're like, well, the right thing is to feel this way, because this is how it feels when I get to eat what I want to eat, the ice cream. And so the, you know, cleaning your plate is, well, it's a tricky topic. Do you want me to get into that as well? Lesley Logan 20:17  I want because here's why, and this is for anyone listening, I think if you raised your kids this way, you shouldn't shame yourself about it, but I think it's good information, because it does, I swear it's ugly how when you're an adult, my husband, when we were first dating, I was like, I'm so full, and I would like, take another bite. And he's like, what are you doing? And I was like, well, I don't wanna waste the food. And he goes, you can just put it in a Tupperware. And I just started laughing. I was like, oh my God, I hear my parents, and my mom listens to this, so please don't get mad, but like, children are starving in Africa. You better eat your food. The young me didn't understand that the food on my plate is not going to any starving child. So like, it doesn't actually it's not being wasted at all. And so as an adult, I had to learn that because I was getting sick every night trying to finish the plate, and it really did affect my moods at night, my sleep at night. And those are the things, you guys, that if your sleep is affected, if your digestion system is not going well, that affects you from reaching the goals you have, because it becomes, your life starts to revolve around how you're feeling out of that one heavy or two heavy meals. And again, this is not a weight loss thing. This is a just a getting you, getting us a relationship around food that can allow us to live the life we want to live. So, I love to get into details of it. Lisa Salisbury 21:26  Yeah. The thing about your mom saying that, is that, isn't it crazy how many people just nodded their heads, and I just already know this, because we all use the same phrase. Why? This is what I was like. Why do we all use this phrase? Where did this come from? So I started to just like Google a little bit, and right at the very top of Google, you can Google it yourself. The Clean Plate Club was an actual club in World War One. It was a government program and was started up again in World War Two, and the reason for this, so Clean Plate Clubs were established in elementary schools. So your grandmother was likely exposed to that phrase as a government program as an elementary school student, because that's back when her eyes are like, getting so big.Lesley Logan 22:17  This is like that. I'm sure, I'm sure there's a reason that had to do with the war, but keep going. Lisa Salisbury 22:22  Yes, so okay, that's when, like, lunch ladies were actual, like making lunch back there, right? In actual kitchens. They weren't just serving up packaged foods like we get today. So they're making actual lunch. They're dishing up actual food. It's not that kids today don't get actual food, but I just mean, like dishing up a portion of meatloaf, right? And the idea was, the child would say, this is how much I want. And then when they would finish their plate and be part of the Clean Plate Club that indicated, I took the right amount for me. And there were rations. We were trying to conserve food, because for them, there were starving children in Europe. There was war-torn countries that we were trying to help, and we were shipping food to Europe. So the less that we could waste here really did help the European nations at that time, but as time went on, we weren't sending food to those nations, and we have more abundance in this country. And we do have the ability to send food in the 80s to Africa or to the other, you know, China, I got that one a lot, too, and still, we can waste a few bites of our food without that affecting it, because we're not on rations anymore. There were true rations in World War Two. Like, my grandma told me, they came around and asked, how much do you have of this and that and the other? And it's a story that sticks in my head, because she said, when they came around and they asked me how much sugar I had, I said I didn't have any, because I took all the sugar on my shelf, and I made sugar syrup, and I canned it so that I would have sugar syrup to can my peaches when it was time. And then I got my full ration of sugar so I could also make a jam. Poor woman, she was trying to, like, conserve food and do all her canning, and try and do that with, on sugar rations. But that's why I know they came around and asked, because. So there really were rations at that time. Lesley Logan 24:21  So they were trying to keep, make sure that you're not, like, saying, I need a cup, and you only used a quarter. And it's like, well, we're in a, you don't need another because you're not using your.Lisa Salisbury 24:21  Right. Lesley Logan 24:29  So this is very fascinating. This is interesting because they were actually like, kind of teaching people, I want this much meatloaf, and then I ate that much meatloaf. So I didn't waste anything, but I didn't ask for more than I needed, which is very different than how it you know, just like everything, it's like the game of telephone. How it translated to, which is, we aren't on rations anymore, but you should still clean your plate, because I always clean my plate, and we are not teaching kids how to pick a portion that they can then eat. Lisa Salisbury 25:00  Well, portions, too, are such a mess, which I want to get into in a second, but I will say we do a lot of these things. This is one of my favorite jokes. I'm pretty sure I read it in the Reader's Digest when I was a kid. They're having a big family dinner, and the granddaughter is the one who's hosting. She's an adult, and she had cut off the edges of the ham, and her mom said, Why'd you cut off the edges of the ham? And she goes, I don't know, because you always did it. And the mom goes, well, I did it because my mom did it. And Grandma was, like, I only did it because it didn't fit in the pan, right? Like, we need to stop doing things because the ham didn't fit in the pan for our grandmothers, right? The problem is, in the 80s, a bagel was about three inches across. And in 2016 there was a big study done, and they called this portion distortion. So, in 2016, bagels averaged six inches across. We still consider that a portion. A bagel is a portion, right? So when you're like, well, we've got to teach kids what portions are. They don't even know what portions are appropriate for their bodies, because they go to a fast food restaurant and they're like, here is a portion of fries. But if you look at the nutrition label for what they are serving you as a portion of fries, it might be considered two or even three servings, right? So a serving size is much different than what we consider a portion. If you ever looked at the serving size of cold cereal, no, no teenage boy eats a serving size for cereal. Lesley Logan 26:26  And here's why, here's what I noticed, guys, because in my 20s, trying to lose the Freshman 25 that I gained. I was like, I was doing the portion control situation. And I was like, let's say, a three-fourths of a cup. That was like, that's mostly what it is for cereal. And I'm like, how do you even measure that? You have a cup, a half a cup, a quarter. I do two measuring cups, and then I get this little itty-bitty, like, you couldn't fill up on that if you wanted to. Lisa Salisbury 26:52  No, no. So we have all this portion distortion. And so we go to restaurants, and they're like, here's a portion. They never once asked how hungry I was. And if my husband and I ordered the same thing, our plates look exactly the same, even though he's six-five and, you know, 215, I am not that size. I do not need the same size portion, serving size that he does. And also, if I haven't eaten all day and he just ate lunch, maybe I am going to eat more than him. So there's just so many factors about what you're going to eat at that meal, and the restaurant never asks you. They just bring out the portion, right? So we have to learn to, like your husband said, put it in a Tupperware, put it in a to-go box. Or if it's a salad and it's dressed, or it's salmon, or it's not going to keep we have to be okay with leaving it behind. And it wasn't our job, wasn't our fault. If you asked for a half portion, would the restaurant even do it? I don't know. Maybe. You're still going to pay the same. It's not about the money you're paying for the experience, which goes back to food being as a positive part of relationship and connection. My husband and I went out to dinner last Friday for a date night. It didn't matter that we ate two different things. It didn't matter that I didn't finish mine and brought some home and he didn't finish his, but he decided not to bring it home. That's not what we were paying for. We were paying to not do the dishes. I was paying to not have the mental work of thinking of what to make and then making it and then cleaning it up. I'm the primary cook and cleaner in our house. Like it's fine, that's, he does other things. I'm not mad about it, but that's mental load. You're paying for all of that when you go out, you're not paying for three or four or 10 ounces of French fries? Lesley Logan 28:45  Yeah, I am obsessed with this conversation, because I love the permission that you're giving every single person here. And this is like, it's an interesting way. It's just such an interesting way to think about all the different things that we do, and why do we do it. And I feel like that's like, kind of your way that you work with your clients. It's like, it's not about the diet and it's not about the weight loss, it's about understanding the choices that you're making and why you're making them, so that they're your choices and you're not being controlled by your choices. Am I correct? Lisa Salisbury 29:14  Totally. Yeah. Lesley Logan 29:14  Yeah. I guess the next question I have is, and maybe this is something you just work with people on is, how do we understand, in a sense it's going to sound so stupid, but only because I feel like someone's listening like, going, okay, that's me. What is the before feeling full feel like? Do you know what I mean? Because if we know that it takes forever, many minutes, to get from my mouth to my stomach, what are those signs? Because my friends used to make fun of me, because in college, I would pull out my napkin and put the death blanket on the meal, because I was trying to teach myself I'm getting full, and so I'm going to put the death blanket on. Maybe people are wondering what those signs are, what's their body telling them so that they can start to think about, do I need this other bite? Or can I take this home? Or can I just leave it here? Lisa Salisbury 29:54  Yeah, totally. So I teach this as what I call a hunger scale. If you were to Google that you'll see lots of different versions of them. Most go from one to 10. I use a hunger scale that goes from negative 10 through zero to positive 10. And the reason is because negative 10 is very, very hungry and positive 10 is very, very full. They are equal distant from zero, which is neutral, because they're equally uncomfortable, right? Like I said before, positive 10, being super full seems like it's fun. It seems like it's fun to be like, roll me out of this restaurant. But it's uncomfortable when we're focusing just on how we feel in our bodies and not how we're beating ourselves up in our brains about it. That's a whole nother thing. But when we just focus on our bodies, they're equally uncomfortable. And then as we get closer to that neutral, that zero, where we're neither full nor hungry, we don't feel food in the stomach. We're not feeling like pressure, but we're also not hungry at all. That's zero. We want to spend most of the time at that point, right? So you want to wait until you're at a, what I call negative three to eat. So this is true signs of physical hunger. We're like, oh, feeling really light. Very first startings of your stomach, like turning a little bit, oh, I'm empty here. The reason this is the nicest time to start eating is because if you wait and get really hungry, when you wait and you're like, at a negative seven or eight, and you're cramped up. You put food in that cramped up stomach, and it cramps worse. And then it's, do you know what I'm talking about? Lesley Logan 31:25  I do know, sorry about when you're like, yes, and also, then you're more uncomfortable, because you're almost like, you're eating faster, I don't know, like, it's like, oh my God, I just need to get this in me because I'm so famished. And then you, you don't even really, you don't even feel zero happen. You just get past it real quick. And then you're uncomfortable the other way. That's how, that's my experience.Lisa Salisbury 31:45  Totally. And so if we can catch it at just a negative three, and then we want to eat until we're at a positive three. So this is really not technical. I call this a meal. The reason I make a joke of that is because in every diet community out there, they're like, here's what to do if you're hungry, and they suggest this 100 calorie snack, 100 calorie snack packs. I mean, you get on Pinterest and you're like, snacks for weight loss. It's like, why? Why do we need a snack? If you're hungry, then we want to sit down and eat a meal. If you, if you get to the end of the day and you're like, gosh, I just was hungry all day. Look back. Did you just snack all day or did you ever wait for hunger, sit down, get out a place mat, get out a napkin, actually eat a meal until you are comfortable, and then get up and move on with your day. I guarantee, the solution for hunger and for being hungry all day is to eat a meal. Okay.Lesley Logan 32:46  Yeah, I love, I love this. I also love, I love it's like, like, not pomp and circumstance, but I really love that you're like, put a placement down, sit down, have a meal. My husband and I have lunch at not always together, but we eat our lunch at the dining room table in our house. We work from home, and we don't eat it at our desks. We eat it as much as possible at the table, with like the placemat and with the things, because it is, it's an event, and it's a pause, and it's a time to focus on that. And the next goal would be to put the phone down. That'd be great. But you know, like we're getting there, we're getting there, and I think that's an important thing. But I love that you're bringing up those, those snacks, because also, you guys, just eating a meal, or eating like half a sandwich, like making half the sandwich, you are gonna give your body exactly what it needs. It's not a distraction. Again, we're being it till we see it. If we're feeling hungry all day long, that is taking up space in your brain from other things.Lisa Salisbury 33:42  Totally. Yeah. So when you get to that positive three, here's some of the ways you're going to know it. Number one, you're going to feel like kind of a there's called a sigh. You're going to feel your body take a breath. Watch for that. That's often the time where things are shifting around. You're getting too satisfied. When you're at a positive three. You're not using the words full, stuffed. You're not feeling pressure, a lot of discomfort. You don't have to unbutton your pants. You're not wishing for stretchy pants. Okay, it's before that. So if you get to that point, you're like, oh, okay, this is, this is not a positive three. I'll try again tomorrow. It's no big deal. Experiment with this. When I assign this to my clients, when I give them the hunger scale, and I'm like, I want to see hunger scale numbers on your food journal, where they just like, write it down, you know, I was at a negative two and positive five or whatever, if they come back to me and every single meal says negative three, positive three. I'm like, I'm sorry you did not do the assignment, because the assignment is to experiment with it, which means you're going to take two bites less. You're going to leave two bites on your plate and see how that feels, and then in an hour, if you're like, yeah, actually, I really am still hungry. That wasn't quite enough. Fine. Eat more. But you can't know what your positive three is if you've been over-eating consistently, you can't really know what it is until you gradually get down to it. Yeah, the first couple days, you might overshoot, and then you might undershoot, and that's okay, because we live in a world where there is food on every corner. Right. There's no more scarcity. We don't live in caves and tribes anymore, but our brains, unfortunately, have not caught up with that and so we have to teach them that food's always available. Lesley Logan 35:30  I love your permission to experiment and be curious, because I do think it is going to require, it's part of just being curious in our bodies, and that's something I'm like, really big, and that's why I love my Pilates because it's a way for me to be curious in my body. This is about being curious, not being perfect. This is about kind of understanding, and especially if you've never figured out what portions of food are going to put you in that positive three when you come at a negative three, versus what portions of food are you going to need if you're coming to negative five, these are good information to know, because then when you go out and you pick the meal, you can actually make that decision for yourself, and you can enjoy the company you're with, as opposed to being so focused on how many bites you're having or the macros like, my God, I could never. I couldn't. My friend is a macro coach, and I try, I literally try. I lasted one day, and I'm spending more time thinking about my food than I am anything else. And no offense to people who love their macros. Again, if it's working for you, that's great. But I think that what I truly love about what you're saying here and what your mission is is really to help people go back to food being part of the connection that they're trying to make in this world, and also really understanding what their needs are and meeting their body's needs.Lisa Salisbury 36:38  Yeah, totally. And when we appreciate food for what it is and for the relationships that we're forming when we eat together, we just don't require the need of food to be our comforter, compensator, celebrator, all the things that we use food for, we can drop all of that and still enjoy food at mealtime. Still be like this food is delicious, and still, sometimes, you know, we can eat the cookie or the breads or whatever you've previously said is off limits when we are eating these things in the right portions for our body. So most of the time, you feel gross when you eat those chocolate chip cookies, not because you had one, because you had four or five.Lesley Logan 37:24  Yeah, on a full stomach, because you finished your plate. Lisa Salisbury 37:27  Yeah, yeah. Right? So we're like, oh yeah, sweets, they make me feel sick. Do they? Or did you just not leave room in your hunger scale for them? Like, if you stop, if you're like, oh hey, it's a dessert night, because, for whatever reason, you know, you made dessert or, I mean, I had fresh plums coming out my ears. We have this tree that reaches across our yard, and I swear, we get more plums than the neighbor does that actually grows the tree. And so, you know, I make a plum, a plum cobbler, so it's a dessert night. I keep that in mind when I'm eating dinner, because I'm like, I want to enjoy the plum cobbler, and so I include it as part of my hunger scale with that whole meal. Lesley Logan 38:07  Lisa, thank you for opening our eyes up, because there's a lot that we have all learned here today. It's been permission-giving and also fun and a way to be curious. And I love your hunger scale. So you've given us so much, we'll take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you and work with you. Lesley Logan 38:24  All right, Lisa, where do you hang out? Where can people connect with you more?Lisa Salisbury 38:27  So mostly, I'm on Instagram that's Well_With_Lisa, well with Lisa with those spaces in there and a lot of Instagram links you back to my podcast. I share a lot of the podcast content on Instagram, and that's Eat Well, Think Well, Live Well on any of your favorite podcast platforms. Lesley Logan 38:46  Awesome. Okay, you've given us a lot. Actually, you've given us some amazing stuff. I know my overachiever perfectionists are already writing down the hunger scale, but bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it, what are some of those that you have for us? Lisa Salisbury 39:01  Okay, so I'm just all about eating the amount that's right for your body, paying no attention to food scales, paying no attention, like, to your the scale in your kitchen. So I think you can do this by just experimenting with bites. Leave two bites behind at every meal this week, and experiment with being the person who is allowed to waste food, because that's very tricky sometimes, and so one or two bites is not going to make a difference much on your hunger, but it's kind of like being it till you see it, meaning you're like, not quite using the hunger scale, but you're experimenting with it. And so that's one of my favorite challenges for my clients, is the two bite challenge. We leave two bites at dinner, every meal if you want, primarily just dinner and see how you feel, looking at that food on your plate, and then also checking in with your hunger. Maybe next week you're going to dish up two bites less. I don't know. Maybe you actually needed more food, so next week you're going to dish up two bites more. But just experiment with it and allow yourself to leave food behind and just really check in and see how that feels. Lesley Logan 40:16  I love this. I really do. I think the easy, wonderful challenge that's not going to be easy for some people, but it's going to be possible. I should say, that's going to be possible for people, it's not enough to go buy out, to go buy anything. It's something that you're already doing. And I also think how cool that once you start to figure out what you need, and each day may be different, like you might need more, might need less. It's not like you're wasting food forever. You're actually going to start to learn what you need, and so you're giving people so much permission and power and putting it back in their hands. So thank you so much, Lisa, for being here. Thank you for all of your tips. I think this is going to be really helpful. Also, I think, for parents who have kids, what a wonderful way to help them understand, you know, their own figuring out, like, how hungry are you? I had a girlfriend whose kids would come and go, hey, I'm hungry. Can I have a snack? And she's like, okay, dinner is going to be in two hours. So whatever snack you choose, make sure it's going to sustain you for two hours. Shouldn't say ruin dinner. She always would say, like, let's make sure it's going to sustain you for two hours, so we're not going to need another snack before then. And she really helped them learn, like, which choice should I have? Should I have the grapes or should I have the beef jerky? She helped them figure that out. So I think that this is really fun information that people can use in their own lives first and then also with the people around them. So thank you, Lisa. Lesley Logan 41:26  You guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Make sure you let Lisa know. Let the Be It Pod know. Share this with a friend who needs to have, you know that friend who, like, is annoying to go to restaurants with, that one that will only go to one restaurant because that's one that she can eat at. You can share this with her, and she won't find out till right now why you did that. So, all right, loves, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 41:50  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 42:31  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 42:37  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 42:42  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 42:48  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 42:52  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this Fuck Yeah Friday episode, Lesley Logan highlights an inspiring story of a young girl who turned her autism diagnosis into a celebration, reminding us all to embrace what makes us unique. She also shares incredible wins from the community, from finalizing a studio purchase to unexpected career opportunities that reinforced confidence. Tune in for a powerful reminder that outside validation can reinforce inner growth, and that celebrating your wins—big or small—fuels the path forward.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:A young girl's inspiring autism celebration and why embracing differences matters.The power of celebrating personal milestones, from final payments to career breakthroughs.How small steps create big shifts in confidence and opportunity.Lesley's journey to sustained energy—and the habits that made a difference.Why external validation can confirm the work we're already doing.Episode References/Links:Life on the Spectrum Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEGIy48ThBN If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Lesley Logan 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:05  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:47  Hello, Be It babe. How are we doing? Happy March 21st 2025. I'm practicing saying that because we are still recording these in January, because we've got stuff in February and things like that, that are going to get me out of town. I know I'm already back in town, but I'm getting ready to go out of town. That, such is the life we live. And so we must honor the time that we have. Lesley Logan 1:05  All right. So this episode is the time where we share something that's inspiring, that I saw online, that I'm like this just should inspire us all. We should all be so, like, this is amazing, very interesting to take note of. A win of yours, a win of mine, and a mantra. Really quick and simple. Lesley Logan 1:18  Okay, so this one came from @lifeotspectrum. I'm not really sure if it was like, oh, Life On The Spectrum. Duh, Lesley, get it together. OT. You know, usually they don't, usually put the T in the acronym, but there we go. So it says, point of view, your daughter is diagnosed with level two autism and asked for a party to tell her friends why she feels different. And I just think that's great. I think that's amazing. How beautiful is this child. She's like, oh, okay, I'm autistic. I'm gonna have a party so my friends can celebrate the differences in me. Brilliant, brilliant. You know, we should all have a party to celebrate our differences. Wouldn't that be so cool? So way to go. I believe her name is Ayla, and they said in the captions from Life On The Spectrum, like, slay queen, yes. And you know what's really funny? I don't think I would have thought of that, right? But it reminds me of I was getting my hair done, and I, finally, after six years, got a car, and it's a car I've wanted for a really long time. It's a really special car to me. It's a car that I've dreamed about. And I really, truly haven't had a vehicle. We have had the van, but I haven't had a car that can fit into a parking garage or, like, be valet or anything, for six years, and it hasn't gotten in the way, but it has. There's always a way around. There's like, another place to go to, but you have to go out of your way, right? And so when I showed her my car, she's like, you have to have a party for your car. And I was like, are you crazy? But actually she's not, because if I had been like Ayla, I could be like, I'm gonna do this. So Ayla, thank you so much for showing us that we can celebrate our uniquenesses with a party. And so maybe we should all do that. That's what we should all be doing. Lesley Logan 2:49  Okay, let's get to what your wins because it's so fun for you to hear your own win later on, after you've had it, in case you're having a day, and you're like, oh my goodness. And then you hear this, and you're like, oh, I had a win before. Yes, and also, and also for you listener, if you didn't send it in to see, like, what is possibly a win and how you might have had that in your life, right? So Melissa Capitano, on Wednesday, sent off my final payment to officially buy the studio from the previous owner. Still have some loans to pay off related to buying it, but I don't owe the seller anymore. Fuck yeah, that's amazing. It's so amazing to, like, make a final payment on something. You really have to celebrate that. How many of you have made a final payment on a credit card or on a student loan or on something and with red you know, one of these money coaches I listened to was just like, oh no, whenever you're paying a bill, you should do it from the highest light, from the highest place. So, Melissa, thank you for reminding us to do that. Lesley Logan 3:42  Kristin Salmans wrote, Contrology contacted me to write an article on the Spine Corrector and then emailed me again, asking to collaborate on a reel because of the ones I've done and tagged them in have been their best performing. Shocking on so many levels, and feeling honored and encouraged to keep doing what I'm doing. Didn't think any of that was in my strengths, but it's helped me to feel confident in areas I doubted myself. Also, Kim Young, as a motivator, using my Spine Corrector daily, wins all around. Isn't it so fun to get caught trying, just doing the thing, and then you get caught trying, and people see something in you, and it's, oh my God. Sometimes we have to have other people see something in us for us to go, I'm killing it. I'm doing a great job. So can't wait for your Contrology article to go out, Kristin, and I'm so happy you're loving your Contrology Spine Corrector. I love mine. It's one of my favorite things to be on. It's really, really beautiful. Lesley Logan 4:28  Okay, so a win of mine. I really want to highlight something, I think I mentioned it on a podcast that it's already come out, but I don't think I've celebrated it as a win with you guys. So on the last day of the tour. I mean, I guess I'd celebrate it with you. I talked about it on the podcast, but I just want to say I didn't actually celebrate it as a win, and I want to celebrate it as a win, because that's the message I preach. So on the last day of the tour, I had someone come up to me on the last event and and say, like, how do you have so much energy? And I have to say, a year before the winter tour, I did not end the year with a ton of energy, end of the year, not resentful or upset or like negative or not wanting to do what I do, nothing like that, but just kind of exhausted, a little whelmed, not overwhelmed or underwhelmed. Just okay, it's done, right? And her noticing that I had high energy at the end of a day, at the end of a long tour, after living out of a van for 36 days, there was a woman in me who was dancing with joy inside, because I was like, yes, you did it. And I will say that energy that she saw came from several wins compiled together. One of those is advocating for myself and finding some help with my hormones, which help with my sleep. Another is just years of continually keeping my practice up, and also boundaries, pretty strong ones that can annoy people sometimes. And I share this as a win because I knew I was doing all those things, and I even celebrated those ones along the way. You heard many of them, but it was really nice for someone outside to who it doesn't know me to see those things in me. And I was like, yes, because it's easy for us to get off of our own trains and off of our own dedications, and right before we could have had the outside validation to match the inside validation. Of course, the inside validation should be the only thing. But honestly, in a world of a lot of -ish, sometimes you need the outside validation to remind you that your inner validations is working. So I hope that makes sense. Anyways, essentially, my win is someone saw that I had the energy I've been working on getting and maintaining for a year ago, and it just made my day. Just made my day. And isn't that fun for something to make your day? It is for me. Lesley Logan 6:49  So, all right, let's pull a mantra. It's not even a mantra. This is, it's called The Deck and I actually have never, I know what I'm gonna pull. So, oh, this one's a, this one's a long, theirs are not mantras, because these are long. So here it is, and you can journal to it, right? We put the show notes of these podcasts out. You can journal to it. So, I embrace the mess my heart makes. It chooses to love. It chooses to feel. It chooses to wander far beyond the bounds of what seems like a logical decision. It risks being broken in order to stretch. It risks rejection in order to know the rush of being honest. It risks being wrong to see what might be right. So the mantra is, I embrace the mess my heart makes. And the journey to that is it chooses to love, it chooses to feel, it chooses to wander far beyond the balance of what seems like a logical decision. It risks being broken in order to stretch. It risks rejection in order to know the rush of being honest. It risks being wrong to see what might be right. What a beautiful poem. That's a poem for us today. Lesley Logan 7:55  All right, loves, Happy Friday. Send your wins in. I want to celebrate you. All right. Send them in just, to the Be It Pod, DM me, whatever. Let me know I can use it. I want to celebrate your win so you can hear them back and be reminded of the things that you're doing that are so great. Have an amazing day and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 8:13  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 8:54  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 8:59  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 9:03  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 9:10  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 9:14  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap!  Today we're ecstatic to be joined by the cutest couple in the world Melanie Lynskey and Jason Ritter to get into parenting, RHOBH, how incredible New Zealand Traitors is, and more! Plus, Ari Shaffir stops by to talk about his new special, takes on Sex and The City, and working in a cemetery. Meanwhile, we get into Tina Fey being anti rich person side hustles, Kylie Jenner's latex school drop off fit, the Baldwins, the demise of Forever 21, and more! You will not want to miss…  “I'm the nicest guy in America. Everyone hates me.” Subscribe to The ENVY Media Newsletter Today: https://www.viallfiles.com/newsletter  OUT NOW! Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff. Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  Please make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to asknick@theviallfiles.com to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick's Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to asknick@theviallfiles.com with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on this podcast please email: ad-sales@libsyn.com or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/theviallfiles     THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Quip - Free your mouth today and save 20% sitewide, plus a FREE travel case and countertop stand at https://getquip.com/nick   Quince- Indulge in affordable luxury. Go to https://quince.com/viall for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. IQ Bar - IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners 20% off all IQBAR products, plus get FREE shipping. Just text FILES to sixty-four thousand. DraftKings - Sign up with code VIALLFILES and wager a minimum of five dollars to receive FIVE HUNDRED CASINO SPINS ON A FEATURED GAME. Cymbiotika - Cymbiotika- wellness, made simple. Go to https://cymbiotika.com/viall for 20% off and Free Shipping. Beekeeper's Naturals - Today, Beekeeper's Naturals is offering you an exclusive offer. Go to https://beekeepersnaturals.com/viall or enter code VIALL to get 20%off your order.   Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro (07:38) - Household Headlines (24:32) - Welcome Melanie and Jason (31:07) - Bachelor and Traitors (40:45) - RHOBH (53:08) - Temptation Island (01:06:54) - Your Shows (01:09:46) - Parenthood (01:20:33) - More Temptation Island (01:30:33) - Fast food Brand Deal (01:32:42) - Ari Joins (02:09:27) - Outro Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @msmelanielynskey @jason_ritter @arishaffir @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips @the_mare_bare @leahgsilberstein @dereklanerussell   

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Making time for creativity and personal passions can feel impossible amid life's demands, but it doesn't have to be. In this episode, Lesley and Brad reflect on key insights from their conversation with Kristen McGuiness, including how she protects her creative energy while balancing work and family. Tune in for actionable tips on reclaiming your time and honoring your dreams.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How to establish and enforce boundaries that protect your personal goals.Why honoring your intuition leads to better decision-making and less regret.The value of intentional time for creativity and deep work.How to overcome guilt around prioritizing your personal passions.Why waiting for life to slow down before pursuing your dreams is a mistake.Episode References/Links:Cambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comOPC Spring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorPilates Flashcards - https://opc.me/flashcardsRise Literary Website - https://riseliterary.comRise Literary Instagram - https://instagram.com/riseliteraryKristen McGuiness Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kristenmcguiness If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! 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DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Even if we call it a boundary, just so you know, you also don't have to explain why your boundaries exist. Brad Crowell 0:04  You don't. Lesley Logan 0:04  And if you need help with that, the holistic psychologist constantly reminds you that you actually do not have to explain why a boundary is a boundary that is.Brad Crowell 0:12  It just is. Lesley Logan 0:13  It just is. Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:57  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the groundbreaking convo I had with Kristen McGuiness in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now, go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us.Brad Crowell 1:12  No hard feelings. We'll still be here. Lesley Logan 1:14  She's a great. Brad Crowell 1:15  Oh yeah. Lesley Logan 1:16  I have actually shared her. Brad Crowell 1:18  Okay, so hold on. Did she write the book that you read, that you told me? Lesley Logan 1:22  Different book. But. Brad Crowell 1:23  Oh, really? Lesley Logan 1:23  Yes, I know. Brad Crowell 1:25  Okay, okay, okay. Lesley Logan 1:26  I know, yes, yeah, no, different book, but same topic. At any rate, it's in my TBRs still, Kristen, I'm so sorry.Brad Crowell 1:33  What's a TBR? Lesley Logan 1:34  To be read. Yeah, this is a TBR. There's no, you know, I anyways, it's, I'm really excited because I really, so, I have actually talked about her multiple times to multiple people, because this woman, when I interviewed her, she was on her monthly like, three days in a hotel to get her shit written, like to get things done. And I just love that this woman was okay. I'm not gonna get anything done. I'm not gonna even try. I'm just going to keep the wheels on the bus, and then every month, I get several days at a hotel uninterrupted. I'm like, I want, I don't even have kids, and I want that. Anyways, before we talk about that, let's talk about how it's March 20th 2025 and it's International Day of Happiness. If you're happy and you know it, celebrate it on International Day of Happiness on March 20th. Brad Crowell 2:21  I thought you were going to clap your hands. Right. Lesley Logan 2:24  Anyways, when I was a kid, my mom would always sing that all the time, so. Brad Crowell 2:27  That's so fun. Lesley Logan 2:28  Other than being in a neutral state, happy is how we should mostly be. Okay. Brad Crowell 2:35  Yeah. Don't fuck it up.Lesley Logan 2:36  Unfortunately, emotions, just feel like that's a lot of pressure. Unfortunately, emotions like anger and sadness are increasingly becoming a default way to be for a lot of us. So here's a day to cheer up and appreciate the good things and silver linings in life. So as you listen to Pharrell Williams's ‘Happy' on repeat, also take a minute this March 20th to consider what truly makes you happy, and how you can pursue it. Well, I can get down with that part of the holiday. Why don't you really take some time to journal what makes me happy, and how can I pursue that more? Brad Crowell 2:43  All right. Lesley Logan 2:54  That's the only part of the song you know. Because I'm happy.Brad Crowell 3:13  That's the best part of the song. Lesley Logan 3:23  Okay. Well, anyways. Brad Crowell 3:24  Good job. Nailing it. Lesley Logan 3:25  We are back from Pilates On Tour. We are home for a little bit, and we are in the middle of the Accessories Flashcard presale. And I promised Brad I was not going to talk about it, but he clearly is sneaking into the show notes. So I'm just going to say, if you know, you know. Brad Crowell 3:41  If you know, you know.Lesley Logan 3:42  And that's how it's gonna be. If you know, you know. Brad Crowell 3:45  And if you don't know, and you're like, what? Lesley Logan 3:46  Go listen to the other recap episode and get the link. But I'm.Brad Crowell 3:49  DM us. Lesley Logan 3:50  But I'm I want you to take or I want you to take action steps sooner. Okay, all right. So what's coming up next that you need to know about is our Spring Training. It is April 27th through May 3rd. It's going to be virtual. There'll be live events and there is replays. So don't worry about it if you are like, oh my God, it's the busiest week of my life, I promise you, you'll be able to attend the things on replay. You want to go to opc.me/events. Pretty soon, I'll tell you what the theme is going to be about this Spring Training. But all the OPC teachers and myself are teaching multiple classes over the week on different pieces of apparatus for different levels of bodies, so that every Pilates lover of any level can have access to moving with accountability, Q&A to get feedback on their form and potentially seeing what OPC is all about. Brad Crowell 4:37  What is it about? Lesley Logan 4:39  Opc.me/events plural to get on the waitlist, which means you get the discount. What's next, Brad? Brad Crowell 4:44  All right. All right. Pilates business owners. Calling all Pilates business owners, go to prfit.biz/accelerator for a free webinar where we're going to dig into the biggest three secrets that Lesley and I have learned after coaching 2500 businesses just like yours, whether you are teaching someone at home, whether you're renting space with someone, or whether you've got a big team in a brick and mortar studio, these three secrets all apply to you, and it's all about how do we make more money? How do we make our businesses actually profitable? And that's what we do at Profitable Pilates. So come join me. It is free, prfit.biz/accelerator. That is profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. And then finally, what is the last note? Lesley Logan 5:28  Well, you guys have to come to Cambodia with us on a Pilates retreat. Brad Crowell 5:30  Obviously. Lesley Logan 5:31  And some breath work and some visualization and some tips and tools and workshops on how to actually make your life the way you want to live it. Plus you get to see incredible temples that are a thousand years old or older. Brad Crowell 5:43  Mind blowing. Lesley Logan 5:43  You get to go on a beautiful water cruise, and it is incredible because you actually get to see how a city can thrive on the water, and the community they work in.Brad Crowell 5:52  They literally live on boats. Lesley Logan 5:53  Yeah and the community they work in. And this is not some sort of like weird tourism thing. We actually get permission by a community to go into the water. You can see how the city is built. And you actually get to attend one of these amazing shops, where you get to see how women can work remotely, making beautiful pieces of things you can buy, and you can support the village in an incredible way. It's so fun. It's so relaxing. It's really nice, because after all the breath work you'll have done that day, you just go out and just be in peace and not taking in, like, overwhelming information. And then also, we go to a lotus farm, and you can just see how this one guy's company uses every single piece of a lotus flower to not only create beautiful things you want to buy, but also energy in remote places. It's quite amazing. Brad Crowell 6:40  It is astounding. Lesley Logan 6:40  It's astound, I mean, it's like, this, it's this guy's like, how can I, like, change the world? And he is doing it and we get to go show you that. So it's in October. You want to go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot. If you're like, I'm gonna do the next one. We haven't planned it yet. Brad Crowell 6:53  We haven't planned it yet. Lesley Logan 6:55  And that is because this is your next time. This is the time.Brad Crowell 6:57  This is your next time.Lesley Logan 6:58  So come.Brad Crowell 6:59  Yeah. So join us at the end of this year, in October, looking forward to it. Lesley Logan 7:03  It's a great time. It's before all the chaos of the end of the year. So it's a really good time, because. Brad Crowell 7:07  It really is. Lesley Logan 7:08  You can reset before the chaos of the holidays, and then you'll have all these tools and things that we'll have done in the workshops and the Pilates to help set you up for 2026.Brad Crowell 7:17  Some breath work, some mindset. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. Okay, we have an audience question before we dig into this awesome conversation with Kristen McGuiness.Lesley Logan 7:28  That was August. That earthquake, you guys, if you're watching on YouTube, was her, it's earthquake August. Brad Crowell 7:33  Earthquake August. Okay, love_Danielle on IG asks, when will your flashcards be available again on Amazon and is there a discount code available?Lesley Logan 7:44  So the time this comes out, we should be back stocked on Amazon. We were selling out all of our OG Matt decks, and we had to completely sell out of that deck on Amazon before the new mat deck could come up. So that's now available on Amazon. Our Reformer Deck is our bestselling deck.Brad Crowell 8:02  It's hard to keep in stock, not a lot. Lesley Logan 8:04  It's hard to keep in stock. Brad Crowell 8:05  Thank you for supporting us. Lesley Logan 8:06  So thank you. We love that you love it. And at the time that you were asking this question, we did have some in stock on our website, but not on Amazon. So what we'll say is we should be stocked on Amazon. We do not have discount codes available for any of our decks, and it's mostly because actually, we're really a small business, guys, and these decks are really a lot of work to put together, and they actually cost a lot of money to print out. And so while we would love to just give the discounts around everywhere, we do have to make sure that they continue to pay for themselves. We continue hitting print on them. And so you can buy them on Amazon. You could also buy them from us, and if you buy them from us, we obviously can make more money to support more Pilates adventures that are out there. We do.Brad Crowell 8:47  We love Amazon, but they take a whole lot. We have a love-hate relationship with Amazon. Lesley Logan 8:51  At the moment, if you are the people trying to do your best to boycott places like Amazon and Target and things like that, we fully support you. And what you can do in your targeting of boycotts is be very intentional about who you're shopping from. So if you are going to shop on Amazon, shopping from people like us is a great thing. Small businesses, because it really does affect us in a positive way, Amazon allows people to find our products who don't know us, and so that's why we are there. It's not because we're like pro everything that they do, we actually need to be found. Brad Crowell 9:22  We intentionally sell on our website.Lesley Logan 9:24  Yeah. So if you buy from our website, it's better for all of us. And then the people that you're not enjoying and want, not wanting them to make money, don't. So you can buy from us, and then we get it all. Brad Crowell 9:33  Yeah. So go to opc.me/flashcards. Lesley Logan 9:36  So in case you're wondering why we're on there, if you don't own a business with products, you need to understand that the way the world works, we, unfortunately, as product based businesses, have to be where people already are. And so that exposes them to OPC, and then hopefully they come over to our side, and then they find all of our amazing stuff. But I don't judge any of the people who shop on there, because we do, too. It's convenient. So anyways, all this to say, yes, they're there. They should be back in stock, and you can also buy from us. Brad Crowell 10:07  Awesome. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we're going to talk with Kristen McGuiness, who is an author. And she talks about how does she escape the chaos of being an entrepreneur and being a mom to be able to write books. So, pretty cool stuff. Great conversation. She sounds amazing. Stick around. We'll be right back.Brad Crowell 10:27  Okay, now, let's talk about Kristen McGuiness. Kristen is a bestselling author, book publisher and a book coach with a deep passion for storytelling and empowering others to find their own voice. With years of experience, Kristen has helped countless others bring their ideas to life. Her own writing journey includes her novel, Live Through This, a compelling and thought-provoking exploration of resilience and activism. Beyond her professional accomplishments, Kristen is a mother, an entrepreneur who believes in creating space for creativity and living a life aligned with purpose. Lesley Logan 11:00  I mean, thank you Roxy Menzies, who introduced us. Because I just. Brad Crowell 11:04  I was wondering how the dots got connected there. Lesley Logan 11:06  Yeah, yeah. I really enjoyed this intro. I feel like, if we lived in Ohio, Santa Barbara, we would all be friends. We'd be, you know, doing life in the daytime, and then I would figure out when she's gonna be at that hotel, and I would get another room, and then we could have drinks at the end of the day, going, what did you fucking create? Like, this is what I dreamed of, Kristen. Anyways, I just think she'd be cool, but I also appreciated her vulnerability and honesty. I feel sometimes a lot of moms have to, like, show us all the hats that they can wear in a day. And Kristen was pretty honest about how, no. So she said, I think my creative fuel tank is the same place where I draw my maternal energy from. They are both creative forces. When I'm in my mom mode, I'm running off of that creative fuel in the same way I would be if I was writing or editing. But she highlighted the importance of taking time for herself, and she said, at the end of the day, I've got nothing left. I mean, I could do an Excel spreadsheet, but I'm not going to come with a masterpiece. And I actually, really love that. She is actually not putting pressure on herself to write something amazing. On the same day, she just ran a household, and I found that to be cool. Brad Crowell 11:06  It's amazing permission. Lesley Logan 11:06  Yeah, amazing permission. I do. I think that, well, it takes a lot because you're like, oh, but you got this thing that you want to write, this thing you want to do, and a creative is like, I've got to birth this thing. And I really think it's cool that she gives herself permission to be where she's at and do what she's doing, wherever that is. So if she's at the hotel writing her work or her masterpiece, she's not mom and the children. She and her partner have set things up so that she can do that. And I have a lot of girlfriends who have children, and I find even more together, they're not as present as I love them to be, because that boundary isn't there yet. And I think that what's so cool is Kristen gives herself permission to, I have a boundary for my work when I'm with my kids, and I have a boundary for my family when I'm doing this work. And I just think we all could take, even if you don't have kids, you could take permission for that. Go to, I want to go to a hotel this month just by myself.Brad Crowell 13:03  Me too. Lesley Logan 13:04  Well, maybe not march. This is a, this is a heck of a month, but April, I'm doing it in April.Brad Crowell 13:09  Okay, okay. I have a couple things. She said one thing that I thought was really interesting, she commented on being a grown ass woman still having to tell her parents that she's going to a conference when she just rented a fucking hotel room for herself because of the generational assumption of work hard, play hard. Okay, this was like a super side note. Nothing to do with writing, but I thought it was such an interesting observation. It made me think about it as I was listening to the interview. You know, she said her parents' generation is actually sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice until you get retired and then y'all can go, you know, take a long walk. The rest of my life is for me. I'm never doing anything for anybody ever again, as opposed to the way that she's doing her life, which I think is very generational, because I'm more associated with her. My parents very much are in the way that her parents are. But she's like how can I enjoy some of my life now and not have to wait till I'm 65 and retired to in quote-unquote, enjoy my life, and also this idea of just like 1,000% self sacrifice until that time, maybe there's a happy medium in there that I think we can have. So anyway, that is not what we had written down here for me to chat about today, but I just thought it was so powerful that I wanted to reiterate that. Lesley Logan 14:29  Also, just in case anyone feels guilty about a fib like that, that is, don't, sometimes people in our lives are just not going to understand why we do what we do. We don't need their permission. We don't actually need them to understand. So just tell them what they need to hear so you can go do the thing you want to do. Brad Crowell 14:47  Well, actually, instead of encouraging people to lie, that's not what we're encouraging here, what I think is a better through line is it's another boundary. She created a boundary between, you know, she heard her mom for this specific experience, so that she doesn't have to go through this emotional roller coaster and then justify all the thing and the expense and the la, la, la, you know, and then be judged. And you know, all that.Lesley Logan 14:48  When you also speak, even if we call it boundary, just so you know, you also don't have to explain why your boundaries exist. Brad Crowell 15:20  You don't. Lesley Logan 15:20  And if you need help with that, the holistic psychologist constantly reminds you that you actually do not have to explain why a boundary is a boundary that. Brad Crowell 15:28  It just is. Lesley Logan 15:28  It just is. Brad Crowell 15:29  Yep, that being said, she was talking about control, right? And she said hey, we clearly can't control things around us. The only thing that we can control are the choices that we make when the things around us are happening. What she was talking about was she's an entrepreneur. Her husband is an entrepreneur. They run different businesses. They also have children. And she's a writer. She said she was reflecting on finding agency in the midst of chaos. And, you know, obviously the most glaring example would be COVID. Like you already mentioned, you could set everything up, but then kablam COVID comes around. She said you need to flip the way you're looking at it, instead of like this shit is happening to me. She said you get to create your own pathway through whatever it is that you're navigating, and that's an opportunity that you have more control over, instead of it's happening to me. So she acknowledged life's unpredictability and emphasized it's just this thing of at a certain point you didn't hit that first domino, and you just have to sometimes be okay, we're in the pressure cooker right now, but relief is always on the way, right? And she shared she had a mantra. I actually thought it was great, because she clearly knows our audience. She said, I'm gonna write my way through this chaos. I'm gonna write my way through it because she's a writer. She said, maybe for you guys, you're gonna have to Pilates your way through the chaos. You know what I mean, wherever is your safe zone.Lesley Logan 16:51  I agree, whether you write or do Pilates, there has to be something that you're doing for yourself to process what you're going through. When I found out that Jay had passed away, it was on a Tuesday, and I still showed up for my session on Wednesday. And it's because moving through the grief made it actually easier to grieve. Or when there's a lot going on, you might just want to, like, keep watching the news and just watch them repeat that shit over and over again to keep you there until the next ad break. Or you can go move your body and get CliffsNotes later, because we have to, or you can go write, or you can go journal, or whatever it is, we have to have some way of processing what we're going through so that we can go back to the beginning, whatever the next step is, and keep going. I find that in today's chaos, a lot of people are waiting for things to be better before they take the first next step, and sometimes you just have to take it. So, you can use whatever that creative energy is to use that to go through whatever is going on.Brad Crowell 16:51  Yeah, well, listen, stick around. We'll be right back, because we're going to dig into some really juicy be it action items that we had. Lesley Logan 17:07  It's such a good, such a robust episode.Brad Crowell 17:58  With Kristen McGuiness. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 18:01  Welcome back. All right, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Kristen McGuiness? She said if I care about my creative careers, whatever that thing is that I love to do or that you love to do, you've got to create a boundary around it and hold that sacred, okay? So this is, again, the through line here of today's episode is boundaries. She shared that if you truly care about something, whether it is a creative project, a personal passion, personal passion, or even self-care, you must be intentional about carving out time to do it. Right? There's no question about it. Setting clear boundaries allows you to dedicate energy towards what it is that actually fulfills you, even when life gets demanding. And I think that's the hardest part. She said it's about creating those pockets of freedom, the pockets of concentration and the pockets of creativity. So we've got the POFs.Lesley Logan 18:58  The POFs, POC and POC again. Brad Crowell 19:01  Yeah, POF. We'll call them POFs, Pockets Of Freedom. And I think that's another argument for taking time to the hotel like she did. Lesley Logan 19:09  Those all fall under gemstone time. Brad Crowell 19:12  That's right. Lesley Logan 19:13  So, if you come on my retreat, or you've ever heard me talk about how to create an ideal schedule, your gemstone time is time you have to protect. Brad Crowell 19:21  Gotta protect it. Lesley Logan 19:21  And it is the time where you do things that you need to concentrate and be creative on. So, you know, the things that can propel your life and your dreams forward.Brad Crowell 19:30  Yeah, actually moving things forward. So, what about you? Lesley Logan 19:33  Never lose sight of your dreams no matter what. She said this and I think one of the authors that Oprah quoteed was Gertrude Lyons who said, "The only times I've ever made mistakes in life is when I've chosen to ignore that voice." So that voice being your intuition, the thing that you want to do. And I think that's so true. I think we can all look back and look at things we regret, and it's like, oh, I didn't turn left when I knew I should have, I turned right or I should have done this. And she said, as long as you're listening to the small, quiet voice inside you, you will lways end up where you need to go. And this is actually just one of the truest things. I mean, just like us sitting here in this house, this was like a small voice going kitchen both now, think you should go now, think, you know what I mean, and not letting all the things. Brad Crowell 20:13  I think you should go now. I think you should go now. Lesley Logan 20:19  What if we made a meditation, which is like, I think you should go now. Brad Crowell 20:22  Today is the day that you should go.Lesley Logan 20:29  Create a boundary. Brad Crowell 20:31  Going is what today is for. Lesley Logan 20:34  Boundaries are kind.Lesley Logan 20:36  Anyways, I hope that you take some time to listen to Kristen's episode a couple of times. And really, ladies, especially my ladies, I know there's a few good men who listen, but ladies, I hope you realize this person, she's not perfect. She's not claiming to be perfect. She is really, truly honoring what is possible and when it's possible, and making sure that she doesn't ever stop focusing on what her dreams are, even if it means they're in pockets of freedom and pockets of concentration. So. Brad Crowell 21:01  Tell us about your POFs. Lesley Logan 21:02  We want to know. Brad Crowell 21:03  Yeah. Lesley Logan 21:04  Yeah. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 21:05  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 21:06  Thank you so much for listening to this episode, and every episode you listen. This is episode 500. Brad Crowell 21:10  Five hundo.Lesley Logan 21:11  Cue the balloons. Nope. You don't have it on your thing. I would. I just, if you're, okay, well, if you, I think you did, it's okay. It's beyond. It's past now. If you're listening, they don't even know, but we're trying to do balloons. There we go, confetti, on the, on the YouTube. You can see it on the YouTube. We love you. You're amazing. And we couldn't have gotten to 500 episodes without you listening and you writing in and you sending your questions in, and you sending your you got to make it more of a heart, babe if you're going to do it, and and then you've got to send in your win so we can shout them out on the FYFs because we want to constantly support you. That's what this podcast is about. So thank you for your love, for your sharing, all of that and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 21:58  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 22:00  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. 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Lesley Logan speaks with author and publisher Kristen McGuiness about balancing motherhood, entrepreneurship, and creative pursuits. Kristen shares her journey in publishing, how she makes time for writing, and the inspiration behind her novel Live Through This. She also discusses activism, navigating personal challenges, and the importance of following your inner voice.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How Kristen transitioned from editor to author while working in the publishing industry.The realities of balancing motherhood and a creative career.Why creating boundaries around personal time is essential for productivity.The inspiration behind Live Through This and its connection to real-world issues.Different forms of activism and how storytelling can drive change.The importance of trusting your intuition and taking action despite uncertainty.Episode References/Links:Rise Literary Website - https://riseliterary.comRise Literary Instagram - https://instagram.com/riseliteraryKristen McGuiness Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kristenmcguiness/Guest Bio:Kristen McGuiness is the bestselling author of 51/50: The Magical Adventures of a Single Life, which was optioned by Original Films/CBS Cable with Alison Brie attached to star, and her new novel, Live Through This, which was released from Rise Books on October 10, 2023. She has over twenty years' experience in book publishing, as an author, editor, and book publisher, with such houses as St. Martin's Press, Simon & Schuster, and Harper Collins. Kristen is the publisher of Rise Books, launching in 2023, which publishes fiction, non-fiction, and poetry of radical inspiration, and also runs the book coaching company, Rise Writers, which provides book coaching and management for emerging and established authors. Kristen has appeared on the “TODAY Show,” in USA Today, and in Marie Claire, and has written for numerous publications, including Rolling Stone, Marie Claire, Shondaland, Huffington Post, Scary Mommy, Psychology Today, Salon, and The Fix. She lives in Ojai, CA with her husband, two children, and a dog named Peter. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Kristen McGuiness 0:00  I'm a mom who prioritizes being a mom, but I also don't want to lose myself in that activity, and I don't think that is healthy for my children either.Lesley Logan 0:10  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Be It babe, oh my gosh. Okay, I felt like I just met a dear friend who I've never known. But it's kind of shocking how we didn't know each other before, because I felt like our paths would have crossed. She's an author, she's a publisher, she's a mom, she's an honest, vulnerable human being who I think is going to inspire the heck out of you to lean into who you are and how you do things. And I just really, truly love this conversation. We are going to talk a lot about how Kristen McGuiness got into books, what her world is in books, how she does it and writes especially with kiddos. You're gonna hear some great ideas I hope you use. I love her quotes at the end. I will just say that we do get into talking a little bit about mass shootings and school shootings because of her fiction book. So just protect your heart if that is something raw for you in this moment. But I hope you listen, because I actually can't wait to read her book, and so I'm gonna read it before I do the recap, because it just sounds really cool, and I'm really inspired in this moment. And so I'm saying this after I interviewed her, so I know that you'll be inspired as soon as you're done listening to this. So here is Kristen McGuiness. All right, Be It babe. This is going to be fabulous. I already know it. I just met Kristen McGuiness a minute ago, but I can tell by who she is and what she's been up to that you are going to love this person, because, like you, they wear many hats. So Kristen, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Kristen McGuiness 2:11  Absolutely and thank you for having me on I'm so glad we were finally able to do this. And it always ends up being perfect timing when you get to do these things and the day and moment you get to do them, when it, you know, made sense at the other time. But, yeah, I'm Kristen McGuiness and I'm a book lady. I mean, I think that's the or a book bitch, depending on the moment. But I've been doing books my whole life, you know, since I was a kid, I always say they're my first addiction. I ended up gathering more than that, less healthy addictions, but I started with books. And just, you know, the places and imagination that we get to escape to when we're reading. And it's no wonder that that became my profession. I continued to love books, you know, try to write books. I ended up starting my career in book publishing at St. Martin's Press and Simon & Schuster and then later Harper Collins. I worked as a book scout in Hollywood for a brief bit, like reading books to develop into movies for Warner Brothers. And then I became a book publisher and a book coach and a bestselling author myself. So it's just, it's all books all the time. That's what I do, and a big and amazing part of that has been helping other people write their books. Lesley Logan 3:21  Okay. That is so fun. That's so cool. I imagine you as like a girl, little girl, like reading all the time, and then you get to just read all the time. Like, how fun is that? Okay. I think where I'd want to start is, it sounds like you were in books, but then you wrote a book. So what was it like to go from reading other people's work and, like, not picking it apart but going, oh, this would be great for this, or this is great for this, and then to writing your own? Was it an easy transition? Were you nervous? Were you excited? Like, what was going on?Kristen McGuiness 3:49  You know, there's some editors that are happy to be editors, and they know that's like, what they love to do. I was always an editor who wanted to be a writer, and so that's just a different dynamic. And I still love editing. I mean, I can simultaneously be editing a book and writing a book at the same time and enjoy both processes. And I mean, honestly, sometimes the editing is more fun because, you know, the stakes aren't as high, right? Like, and it's not on me. I mean, it's on me to help it be good, but I'm not the source of the goodness. Whereas when you were the author, it's really hard to be like, I'm a shitty editor. It's really easy to be like, I'm a shitty writer. So I really enjoy getting to do both. But I was definitely always someone who wanted to do both. I mean, I ended up leaving book publishing, and that's how I wrote my first book. I went into the world of nonprofits, and that became like a secondary career to books during a period of my life just because I moved out to California and there was no, I mean, now there's more opportunities in that field, but at that time, there was, like, no book publishing in Southern California, and I preferred I wanted the weather. So I chose weather over books.Lesley Logan 4:55  Wow, you really wanted the weather.Kristen McGuiness 4:59  I do. I really like the sun. Lesley Logan 5:00  Oh my God. Well, and you have some sun going on you. And also, I understand that, as someone who's California born and raised, I can visit a city, and I'm like, I could do two weeks in this weather, but I gotta go back.Kristen McGuiness 5:12  Yeah, no, I very romantically lived in Paris for one year, and my friends all joke about, like, how much Kristen hates Paris. And I'm like, I don't hate Paris. It was just that it was gray every day, and I ended up with seasonal affective disorder. Like it wasn't, I mean, it was like nothing I could control. I was just horrifically depressed and wanted to throw myself into the sun every day. But I'm like, it really wasn't Paris's fault. I just need sunshine. Lesley Logan 5:36  It's just like the location of Paris is just not ideal.Kristen McGuiness 5:41  If I could pick it up and move it somewhere else, that'd be fantastic. So I, you know, I ended up moving out to California and ended up in nonprofits, and that's when I did write my first book. And I think I did have to remove myself from the book publishing industry in order to write a book. And I don't think that's true anymore. I'm doing both very simultaneously right now, but in that period of my life, I did so that I could just really have that fuel tank of creative energy just for me. Lesley Logan 6:10  Yeah, yeah. I understand that. I I think, like even just to not have distractions or especially with something new, even though books weren't new to you, but writing your own is a new thing. You kind of have to, like, kind of immerse yourself so you can really get into it. You know, I know your mom, and I think having all of these hats and then having kids, I know, like, for our listeners, there's always people going, how do they balance it? And I don't have children. So when I say, I don't think balance is real. People nod, but don't really listen to me, because like, but I don't I think that there's a blend. And I think that, you know, my yoga teacher says balance is the art of not falling, and that just means that you're kind of tilting over here, and then you're tilting over here and you're trying not to fall either way. And that resonates with me. But can we talk a little about what it's like to be curating this amazing career that you have, you know, being in books, of writing books and being a publisher and doing that while, you know, parenting and bringing kids into this world. What was it like? Kristen McGuiness 7:06  Well, that's why I'm in a hotel room right now. So, you were like, so how do you, I'm like, I literally go to a hotel room two nights a month. That's what I do. And I joke, again, I'm a former addict, so it's like a drug vendor. I'm like a Hunter Biden, but with books. So I just, like, pull myself up in a hotel room for like, 48 hours, and I just write like a wild Banshee with caffeine and Red Bull. I mean, I find, though, whatever that looks like for people, I do think it's about creating the pockets of freedom and the pockets of concentration and the pockets of creativity, because, I mean, I'm also just somebody, like, I always eat one thing at a time. I'm not good at, like, fully integrating. So I can't be in the middle of parenting and then be like, give me five kids. I'm gonna go edit a book. My brain doesn't work that way. And I do think, speaking of the creative fuel tank, I think, at least for me, my creative fuel tank is the same place where I draw my maternal energy from, not surprisingly, because they're both creative forces. And so when I'm in my mom mode and I'm really with my kids, I am running off that creative fuel in the same way I would be if I was writing or editing. So I think it is really hard to be a creative and a mom, because if I've been momming all day long, like I, at the end of the day, I've got nothing left. I mean, I could, like, do an Excel spreadsheet. I can put the dishes in the dishwasher, but I'm not going to come up with a masterpiece. And so I've really learned how to pull this time out. Hence, I mean, I wrote a screenplay in the last 12 hours, that's what I have done here today. So I came here yesterday at 3pm and I was like, we're writing a screenplay before I got that podcast tomorrow, and I literally finished it right before we began. But that's how I've learned to like, if I'm if I care about my creative career, which is not even a career that pays my bills. I mean, that's still, you know? I mean, it's still, like a speculative career, if I care about that, whatever that thing is that you love to do, like, I've got to really create a boundary for myself to make that something that I hold sacred.Lesley Logan 9:14  I am obsessed with this. I love this so much. I really do. I, first of all, my friends make fun of me because I'm like, oh, you're going there. This is my favorite hotel. Because I love a hotel. I find I get so much done. I wasn't even in a hotel on Monday, but I was at a friend's house, it kind of felt like a hotel. And I was like, oh, I got all my work done in three hours. Okay. And I was like, that is so funny, because when you're at home, there's so many distractions. Like, before we're on this podcast, we have an older dog. By the time this episode comes out, it's probably passed at this point, but, you know, it's hard. It's how you're like, oh, okay, so we're gonna be late on that call because I got this thing, and then I gotta do some laundry. And you just can't be that creative person. You have to kind of remove yourself. But I also just love that you highlight, like, I have pockets of this, and I think protecting those pockets, like a pocket of this type of thing I'm going to focus on this here. It allows you to kind of show up and be their best version of yourself in that moment, and not kind of stress about all the things you thought you'd fill in those two hours. Kristen McGuiness 10:08  Yeah, yeah, I've learned. I mean, I've, I mean, look, I think most moms struggle with self sacrifice because motherhood really demands it. I mean, it is hard you constantly or be laboring like, how do I, I don't want to put myself ahead of my kids. I mean, I want to, you know, I mean, they are in and I have young children. I have a five year old and a nine year old. I mean, the nine year is obviously more independent, but they're still school-aged children. I don't have teenagers at home, and so there is a lot of caregiving, physical, emotional, psychological that is taking place. And I want to prioritize that I am a mom who prioritizes being a mom, but I also don't want to lose myself in that activity, and I don't think that is healthy for my children either. And when I do lose myself, that's when I am my worst mom, that's when I'm angry, that's when I'm quick to temper. It's when I don't feel like I'm getting to take care of me. And so I've just really learned that, you know, I come, you know, my mom's, like, a boomer, we're actually in a fight right now, so it's really interesting. And we're, and it's a fight about exactly these things like these intergenerational dynamics of like, I have to, like, still lie to my parents and tell them that I'm here doing a business meeting. Because they'd be like, why are you spending money on a hotel to work on a screenplay that you're not getting paid to do? And I'm like, because I will go insane, otherwise, it is so valuable for me to stay sane and creative and whole and human. My mom came from a generation, although she's incredibly makes very selfish choices now, like it was all about, like, you sacrifice all the way up until retirement, and then you just get to be selfish every minute of the day. And I'm like, that doesn't look I mean, I think we've seen by the gross impacts of your generation's choices, that probably wasn't a good idea. But also I don't think that makes it like a well-lived life. I want to feel like I'm getting to show up for others and getting to show up for me in some level of consistency. And I absolutely agree, like balance is just not falling down. And also, sometimes I think balance is falling down because that's also part of it. You're like, oh, fuck. You know, like, I'm off. But I do think creating that integration between we take care of others, but we still take care of ourselves and our dreams and who we are, and not losing that identity that exists before, during and long after our children are grown.Lesley Logan 12:22  Yeah, and also, I just think it's really cool for your young kids to see that you do protect the things that you love. You protect your time with them, but also they're seeing you go and protect the time for who, like, whether or not you get paid for the screenplay. Like, it's not about that, because the screenplay could lead to something else, into something else, but, like, it makes you feel whole, and it makes you feel alive, just as much as parenting would, but it's a different part of you. And so I think it's cool they get to see that, because then they get to, when they get older, know that there's an option for them, you know, like, there's, there's possibilities, and there's ways they get to see it an example. Kristen McGuiness 12:57  Yeah, no, I, and I think it's really about like showing. It's, I mean, again, I've just written, like, literally, I'm just coming off of writing the screenplay, and there's a whole like, scene in the screenplay where one of the characters say, we can't control what happens around us, right? The only thing we can control are the choices we make in that, you know? I mean, I'm an entrepreneur. My husband is also an entrepreneur, which is just, I mean, the level of insanity that that brings, and especially in the last couple of years where, like, the global economics have been far out of our control, so we've been terribly impacted by sort of the larger financial environment. And I'm like, but you know what? We get to make choices within that. And that doesn't mean that all of them are happy, some of them are hard. But just to feel like I have no choice, and that this, well, this is just the way it is, right? And it's like, no, I mean, we get to create our own pathway through whatever we're navigating. To me, you know, I always say to myself, it's like my little mantra, like, I'm going to write my way through this, whatever is going on, I'm going to write my way through this. And that's just, you know, for others might be, I'm going to Pilates my way through this, right? Like, whatever the thing is that's your source of healing. And also the thing that helps you to understand how and why life happens. That's what you have to tap into. And without that, I mean, then I think you are just on the floor, right? Then you can't even, then there's no balance, because you can't even, like, you don't even have a foundation underneath you.Lesley Logan 14:16  Yeah, yeah, it's so true. There's a million things that go on in a day. I was just recording the podcast drops that we call FYFs, Fuck Yeah Friday, and it's just a short episode where I share listeners wins, and I share one of mine. And I was like, there's 17 things that have gone wrong today, like 17, and they're all out of the control. None of them were things like, I knocked the first domino forward on that. So you have to just go, okay, what are those do I need to deal with? Can I just put that over here? Or what can I do? What is possible in this moment for me to handle so that I can keep moving the ball forward? Because, like you, my husband and I are both entrepreneurs. We work together, which is this own level of insanity. Kristen McGuiness 14:53  I love you both. Lesley Logan 14:55  I know everyone's like, so how do you do it? And I was like, I'm just gonna tell you right now. We're still figuring that out, and I think communication is really key, and sometimes we suck at it, but you try and you just go, okay, didn't handle that so good. Next time, I'll handle that better. But I think it's really there's honesty about it, and I love that you said you write your way through it. Some people will Pilates their way through it, or journal their way through it, or take a long bathrobe. But like, you, there's got to be a process for which you reflect and learn and integrate what's going on in your life.Kristen McGuiness 15:26  No, absolutely, and yeah, again. God bless you for being an entrepreneur with your husband. I try to, sometimes I have to help my husband with his business, and I'm like, I would quit this job in like five minutes, but he owns a restaurant, which is, like, I think the worst business you could open, honestly, I'm like, oh my God, every time I go to eat now at a restaurant, I have so much grace and gratitude for what happens. Our pediatrician once said, no one knows how expensive the cheat meal is. And I was like, so true. Like, you have no idea what people do to sell you food in a restaurant.Lesley Logan 16:01  Oh, you're, bless your husband and all the restaurateurs out there, but that's, I don't like the margins, but I would say books are very similar. So I feel.Kristen McGuiness 16:11  You realize that, thank you. We kind of realized that a little late. We're working our way through that. We did not know that. We thought, we knew that books were a slim profit margin. We naively thought the restaurant business wasn't. Then we discovered both were at the same time. We were like, you know, there's a great Macklemore song where he says, if I had done it for the money, I would have been a fucking lawyer. And I'm like, that's like, my bumper sticker I got in the back of my car. We're truly here for love and fun, and the belief in, apparently, pizza and books, but pizza is important. I will never deny that. But, yeah, no. I mean, we have learned. I mean, we are in a very high stress, double entrepreneurial situation, and also have an aging dog, and we are also in the end zone of what's to come on that. And it's just, it's so brutal, and yes, and it's the same thing where, like, there are days where we do not do it well, certainly. And then, like, recently, I've just, you know, been realizing that there is so much about this that you have to take your hands off the wheel, you know. And I've joked, like, I know, if you have seen the other the little gif at some point, I think everybody has. It's like, the end of Thelma and Louise. We're like, Thelma and Louise grab hands, and then the car flies off the Grand Canyon and like a hubcap falls off. And I've been using that gift is like, I just send it to everybody I work with, because I'm like, this is my business strategy. And last night, when my friends was like, you can't tell people that. And I was like, no, but it is because there is something about living your dreams that is just like a hope, a prayer and floor the fucking car, and, like, off you go, and you got to know that you're going to land. It might be a terrifying drop, but you're going to land. I mean, obviously, hopefully not in fire and death, but that's not going to happen, right? Like, no business ends like that. And so it is just this thing of, like, at a certain point you can work really hard, you can do all the strategies, right? But like, ultimately you didn't hit the first domino. And you just have to sometimes be like, Mercury is in retrograde, and we're just gonna wait until August 28 rolls around. Everything goes direct, or whatever it is, the thing that you know is, like, this is just, we're in the pressure cooker right now, but like, relief is always on the way. Lesley Logan 18:22  Oh, my God, this retrograde? We are feeling in every possible way of tech. I'm like, Okay, well, okay, we'll just redo that. We're like, I have a astrologist that I listen to who's always like, if it's put an argument in front of it, and that's the best thing, refine, reorganize, read, we're redoing. We're just gonna but I agree, you do have to take the action. You do have to put the pedal to the metal, but then you also have to, like, release and go, you know, it's gonna end somewhere. And some of the best things that ever happened in my business were the ones that felt that kind of happened for me, or to me or without, without the control, and I just have, it's not the right place at the right time, because I did the work to get there. But also, couldn't have happened without some just like magical or universal or divine appointment that happened along the way. And then you just have to ride that. You just have to enjoy that. And I also think it is crazy that I work with my husband. I also am so grateful because it's really fun to work with him. And I don't know that a lot of people can put up with my creative energy. There's not a lot of people who would be like, we love that idea. Lesley, we're gonna put that over here. You know, like a partner can go, yeah, later, until later. It's really refreshing and also just really nice to hear like, you know, you don't have everything figured out. Not everything happens the exact way it's supposed to. You didn't just turn a light switch on, and things worked. So thank you for sharing that. I want to get into, like, your latest book, is it Live Through This, and I just, can you tell us maybe, like, what was the drive like, why did you have to, like, why was it something you wanted to, like, get out of you, and what are you hoping that people get from it? Kristen McGuiness 19:52  Absolutely, yeah. I mean, I really lived through this. That nine-year-old was, at the time, only one years old. So it was in 2016, and it is not a spoiler alert, because it happens in chapter two. There's actually a mass shooting that sort of is the impetus for the whole story that kind of explodes across the rest of the pages, quite literally. And I was really moved to write it because, I mean, obviously we are a nation that deals with mass shootings all the time, but as we know, it's almost like a season, like there are these moments where it just feels like it's every day, you know, you're just like, oh my God, another one. Oh my God, another one. And 2016 felt that way. There were a lot of them, sort of back to back, and they had actually happened in places where I knew or was just felt like really emotionally connected to, actually, the shooting that happened in Paris, the Bataclan attack in November of 2015 I think that was, was in the neighborhood where we used to live in Paris. Someone was actually shot on our street corner. And then there was a shooting in San Bernardino at the regional center, which was 40 minutes from where I was working at that time at a nonprofit, also in a government building. So we began to get trained in our offices about what to do in the event of a mass shooting. And then the night of the Paul shooting was really the impetus where I was just like, oh my God, enough. My husband and I were about to go to a live concert a couple weeks after that shooting, and I began to get really scared. And I'm just not somebody who has, like, I have no agoraphobia. I'll go anywhere. I don't have a lot of just those kinds of fears. Or I'm really adventurous. I love to be out and about. And it was like a band we love and personally know, and a really fun night. And I actually began to get scared to go. And so it sort of led to this, you know, as a lot of books I think come out, oh, it was like, what would happen if, right? And I was like, what would happen if there was a shooting that night? And out of that began this story. And so it is about a shooting at a nightclub and a concert, and the main character loses her spouse, which, again, it happens in chapter two. So it, you know, it's kind of silly to hide it. And she begins to navigate what happens, not just after you lose someone, but also what happens after you go sort of like accidentally viral and suddenly and I started writing this long before Parkland, but it is the Parkland journey of what happened with a lot of those kids who've experienced significant trauma, not just from the event, but from the activism afterwards, because obviously they wanted to be part of activism, but the, and in the same with the Sandy Hook families and everything that happened with Alex Jones is that they're just dragged through the mud, and it's just so horrible what happens to them, and death threats, and, you know, it's like it was bad enough they went through the shooting, but now they have to go through this. And so she's navigating all of that, but it's 2016, it's on the eve of what ended up being a really shocking election that has dictated the last eight years of our lives. My God. oh my God, please let it end. And so this character isn't just deciding, hey, am I going to be an activist about what just happened to me? But also the story kind of stands on the pinnacle of art, what became our modern times. You know, how am I going to show up in this world as a person? And it's also about, really, her finding her voice, and she's coming out of a very complicated and hard marriage, and she grieves them, and she also has relief from what was a hard marriage. And so it's also about that, you know, I, I had that experience when my own father died, when my husband is completely alive and taking care of our kids, but, but when my father died, I really, you know, I really depicted it more about that relationship, because I had a very complicated relationship with my father, and when he passed away, I had a therapist who said to me, you know, you can have any reaction you want to this, and that includes relief, and it was such a freeing thing, because, you know, it's always like when someone dies, we're supposed to be sad. And it wasn't that I wasn't sad, but also I didn't have the complexity and the trauma of that relationship in my life. And so she's navigating that she has a young child, so she's also navigating being a single mom and all these different pieces. So it's interesting because it's set, now, it's almost like historical fiction, right? Oh, those sweet and gentle times of 2016 the days of yore, so, but it is also a lot about marriage and parenthood and sacrificing your dreams to show up and be a stable you know, I'm going to take care of the family and I'm going to do what I need to do, and she's in a nine-to-five job, and she sacrificed her dreams to just try to be like a normal person, only to discover that there's no such thing as normal, especially in modern America. And so we called it like a modern, suburban Western, because it is about that, and she has to become her own version of a gunslinger in the end.Lesley Logan 24:28  I do love that it's now historical fiction, because I too long for those days sometimes my husband and I sometimes I'm like, I just want to not know the house representative for, like, a state I've never been to. I just want to not know who that person is, but also like, how naive and how unique a time that was as well. Thank you for sharing the story. Now I feel like we need a Be It Till You See It book club, you guys, I want to hear all of your thoughts on reading it. I find fiction fascinating because I actually love it. I grew up on like Judy Blume, which is like fiction but not, you know what I mean. It's like, always based on something that happens, and then it's like, the story of it, your daughter, your it was your nine-year-old just one. Excuse me. Yeah, so with your, was there a part of you that was, like, writing it because also to be a parent of a time when, like, yeah, it's, I don't know how parents in their school, kids school, my mom's a school teacher. She's a first grade school teacher, and the thing she's telling me that she's have to prepare for, I'm like, you should not have a gun. I'm just gonna tell you right now, you know, I grew up with the earthquake drills. Now it's very different. And so was it partly just, it was even therapeutic, or just like, ways for you to kind of understand what you're going into as a parent at a time when this is such a scary thing going on?Kristen McGuiness 25:40  Yeah, no. I mean, that was definitely a driving force. I mean, it's a driving force every day, I think. I mean, especially now that I do have school aged children, and I mean, I make sure I kiss them every morning, just God forbid, I will not let them go to school without hugging them and kissing them. Because I remember one of the Parkland fathers, actually one of them who became quite active. I forget his name now, but he always said that the morning that his daughter left for school, they were really busy, and he didn't hug her and say goodbye, and he never knew he would never not see her again. And I just can't even fathom that pain, especially under the conditions that those murders take place. And so, yeah, I mean, I definitely wrote it for that. I mean, there's a as one of the my blurb authors, Gina Frangello, who's amazing, gave me this great blurb that's saying, like, it's a call to action, and the book really is. I mean, there's a moment in the book where the main character, I discovered, long after writing it, that there's actually a genre called autofiction, which is what I wrote. I just didn't know, you know, my own genre's name, until, like, six months ago, where it's like, it's totally my life, like anybody who reads the book, like, my husband's name is Terry, and my friends all call it the book where Terry dies and like, it freaks them out, because they're like, wait, he's still, he's still alive, like, I just saw him yesterday, but like, it's like the book where Terry dies, and I did. I mean, I did use our lives, because at the time, I had considered writing a memoir, but we're not that exciting of a couple. We don't drink, we don't smoke, we don't cheat on each other. I joke, it would just be like 100 pages of people arguing about finance and ADHD.Lesley Logan 27:08  There's, there's a, there's a group of people who would read that, you know?Kristen McGuiness 27:12  I mean, they still can, because they because the couple still argues about finance and ADHD in the book. But we just, we raised the stakes. They need a little more plot, a little more plot. So I gave it a lot of plot. But I mean, there's a scene in the book where the main character ends up having a meeting with the President of the time prior to Trump. And I didn't like, use Obama's name, but it's clearly him, because Obama would meet with people after those shootings, and she ends up with a one-on-one meeting, because she ends up kind of getting a little fame under her belt, and in that meeting, she flat out asked for an executive order banning assault weapons, because it's just and that's why, I mean, ultimately, I say like that is what? If you ask me what the book is about? Yeah, it's about marriage and single motherhood and mass shootings, but it's really about the need for, excuse me, an executive order banning assault weapons. One point, I'd actually worked on building a whole campaign around that, and an activism campaign, and then with everything that happened with the Biden administration, it didn't make sense. But I was just talking to one of my colleagues the other day, and I was like, look, if Trump makes it into office, we can just say goodbye, but if I'm like, truly, like, see you later, buddy.Lesley Logan 28:14  I know, especially after the most recent Supreme Court situation on that. I was like, What are we doing? Kristen McGuiness 28:18  I know. See on the flip side. Yeah, my husband and I like a boat, a boat sounds good. But if Kamala makes it into the office, there are some real changes that the Democrats have failed to make, multiple times over, with multiple opportunities, with control of the Senate, control of the House, and I would hope that she will take this enthusiasm and momentum, although obviously it will wane, because it is what it is. But I do think that people have returned to the fold in a way that's like, okay, let's just fucking do this. But once she, you know, presumably, gets to do it, she has to do something, because we just can't have somebody else show up again and not take control of the situation. Lesley Logan 28:59  Yeah, I love that. You said that what I'm thinking of is we live in a world where we do all have to be activists of some kind, but not every one of us is someone who wants to stand on a line and protest. That's not everyone's way of being an activist, but there are unique ways where we can be activating in people. And for some, you're barely keeping your head above water. And so your activism is telling your friends to vote, and you voting and doing the research, you know, like that could be your form of activism these days. Because, my goodness, if you don't know the US's voting records, or people are just don't do it. I've been to Australia. They're like, I don't understand. Like, we make it a holiday and everyone does it. It would be so weird to not do it. Kristen McGuiness 29:37  Well, it makes so much sense, wouldn't it? Lesley Logan 29:38  Yeah. And they're like, and you guys are just only this many people. I'm like, I don't really, I don't want to tell you. So for some of you, it might be an activating thing to go do that, but I love that you took this desire, this drive, this passion, and you put it in a form for people who want to have a really good read can be inspired by and also go, oh hold on, wait a minute. There are things that we can do, and there are things that can be done. And from our lips to their ears, my fucking goodness, if they do not hit the ground running, if they get what they need, like, I don't know what we're going to do. Want them to act with a little, just a little bit of urgency would be great, yeah, just that fucking tiny bit. And all this to say, the administration we have currently has done a lot with what they've had, but there was a two year mark where we could have just done a whole lot more, just saying, but I think like you're showing I hope that what everyone here is hearing this is like, you can have different ways of being an activist and different ways of inspiring people to think about what is possible and what can be done and keeping things in the forefront, because you're right, it goes in waves. That's not that we haven't had mass shootings. Unfortunately, they happen every day, and our media doesn't talk about it anymore. And then there'll be one, so then they'll talk about a few, and then they'll keep going, and then it becomes something else. And our media has talked about ADHD. They have a whole different acronym of what their attention span is. And so I appreciate your book, and I also appreciate this is a different way we can all figure out how we can take what we love and still use it to inspire others to take different actions. And I think that's really cool.Kristen McGuiness 31:14  Yeah. And I think, you know, going back sort of full circle on and, I mean, I think everybody has their the thing they used to get through life, right? Like I said, I write my way through this. So for me, my political activism, it makes sense for me to write it. That's the space in which I'm comfortable, you know. And everybody has their space in which they're comfortable. It's about to me, I think the most important thing is, as long as you keep paying attention, because the minute we stop paying attention, and that's the biggest thing too, is whatever way in which you can help other people to pay attention. You know, not just because you post on Instagram, although I don't not recognize how important that is, too. You know, the more that we are sharing information with each other, the more that we are talking, the more that we are activating each other into just awareness, hopefully, the better our world will be and the more we will demand the people in power to make certain decisions. And it does kind of go back into that idea, it's like, you know, we can, we can't control what the President does, but we can make choices every day to be part of that conversation in whatever way feels right and good and aligned with who we are. And so, you know, I've always been a political person, but I do believe that we all have our path through just navigating life and impacts those big systems have on all of us, no matter who we are.Lesley Logan 32:31  Yeah, you're so right. My husband, people wouldn't know, but his second hobby is like political podcast, the amount of research he does, and he's also the type of person who phone banks. So whenever they're like, are you volunteering? Like, only one person in the household can do it. Some of us have to keep the wheels on the bus right here. Kristen McGuiness 32:47  Like, phone banking's over here.Lesley Logan 32:48  He's phone banking, but he, I watch him all the time in his way of activating and activism, he's not afraid of a conversation with someone who disagrees. And he's like, oh, have you heard this podcast? And he'll just use a podcast episode that will explain to someone he's like, just think, just listen to it. There are ways of doing it. He's not on socials. Lucky him. You know. But like we each can have our way of being part of this society and making change. And it can be loud or it can be writing a book. It can be writing a play. It could also be how you teach a class. It can be the types of music that you're using to help and inspire people and have people ask questions. Or it can be like, Brad is like, oh, to our friend who had a flag up, we're like, it's interesting. I wouldn't have expected that from that person, and he just went with quiet curiosity and was like, oh, you should listen to this episode right here. And the guy did, that's where you make really big impact, is on those small relationships. It doesn't feel big in the moment, but it's big over time. And so you're just freaking cool. You're so cool, we're all gonna go read your book. What are you most excited about right now?Kristen McGuiness 33:50  I mean, I just wrote a screenplay in 12 hours, I'm very excited about that.Lesley Logan 33:55  Yeah. What did you guys do listening? She wrote a screenplay in 12 hours. I forgot my laundry in the wash machine. Kristen McGuiness 34:00  That's not what I do every day of my life, folks. So, by no means, there are a lot of days that are just laundry and lifting up a 80 pound dog who can't stand by himself. I take care of a lot of people, no, but I did get to do that. But the exciting part of that, the reason why I just cracked that out, is that Live Through This is actually going to a very big actress in the next week, and I wanted to have some sample writing to go with it. So that was the motivation to be like, I'm having dinner with the producer tonight. And I was like, I'm going to crack out that screenplay. She's a dear friend of mine. I'm going to give her a draft of it tonight, and hopefully next week we can turn around fast enough so that this book and this screenplay that I just wrote that is similar in that it's about, I mean, my poor husband has become a very unfortunate muse, but we just went on a two week trip to Greece that I said was like an odd DC and adventure. It was like, people like, how was your vacation? And I'm like, how do I respond to that? I'm far too honest to be like, it was fun. I'm like, it was not like two weeks laying around Hilton Head. It was a fucking life changing adventure, in good ways and bad. So I decided, you know what, I'm gonna write a screenplay about that experience, except for it includes, you know, talking cats and the goddess Artemis. And it's like, it's super funky and fun, and that's just what I did. And the beauty of it is that I am also a book publisher, and I'm a book coach. I have a book coaching company, Rise Writers, and a book publishing house, Rise Books. So, so much of my time when I am not parenting, I actually am not a writer. That's not what pays the bills, right? So I have this other really big creative job, but it's so much of my time and energy goes into other people's creative projects. So when I just finished that screenplay, I was like, who knows what's gonna happen with this crazy thing I just wrote. But the fact is, I got to just do that for me and the catharsis and excitement. I mean, I'll watch anything with a talking animal. So, I mean, I just figured if nobody else ever wants to see this movie, I'd watch it just for a talking cat named Gordon. Lesley Logan 35:57  Oh, don't you love a pet with, a pet with a human name. I screwed up. We named all of our animals like something important, and the next round is going to be like, Bob and Jonathan.Kristen McGuiness 36:09  My dog's name is Peter. It's actually like, it's so funny, because there are a lot of dogs with human names, but that wouldn't, for that reason. And he also looks like a human so he actually confuses people. When people look at my dog, they're like, oh Peter. And you see, there's a moment where they go, is that a person or a dog? Lesley Logan 36:26  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand. I understand. Oh my god. I adore you. I'm so excited to see where this goes. And I just so appreciate your vulnerability and honesty about how you do life, because I think that, for everyone listening, there's something to pick up there. We're gonna take a brief break, and then we're gonna find out how people can find you, follow you, read all of your goodness. All right, Kristen, tell us where people can read your amazing book, or find out if Gordon ever makes it on the big screen. Kristen McGuiness 36:51  Yeah, let's say if ever there was a cat who deserved the big screen. No, you can find me at Kristen McGinnis on Instagram or @RiseLiterary, but my website is riseliterary.com where you can learn more about me and the book publishing house, Rise Books, as well as all of our book coaching programs. If you are writing a book and are interested in finding out how you do that, we offer lots of ways to find your path to publishing, which is like our trademarkable motto. But also you can find Live Through This anywhere it's sold. It's distributed by Simon & Schuster. So we are everywhere, Barnes and Noble, Amazon, I guess I will flash the book, yeah. So wherever books are sold. So yeah, but otherwise, just come and check us out and hope to connect with some of y'all listening soon.Lesley Logan 37:40  All right, before I let you go, bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?Kristen McGuiness 37:48  All right. This is, when I read the email beforehand. I was like, yikes.Lesley Logan 37:55  I know you know what though, you're brilliant. It'll, every like, it's gonna be brilliant, whatever you say, so don't be yikes.Kristen McGuiness 38:02  No. I mean, I think if I could just show the gift from the end of Thelma and Louise, that would be it. But, I mean, I do think it is it, you know. I mean, I think it's about never lose sight of the dream, no matter what, and no matter what gets in the way, you know, no matter what life shows up, no matter what children you have, no matter where your marriage goes, or whether you get married or not, or whether you have kids, no matter whether the dog passes away or you get a kitten, you know, no matter what comes there's this great I think it's an Emmy Lou Harris song that says all that you have is your soul. And I think that that's really true. We are always there underneath it all, and as long as we connect back into that, and I'll actually end on an Oprah quote, one of my authors put this in a book that she just, we're publishing in May, called Rewrite the Mother Code. I will also honor her, Dr Gertrude Lyons, she's writing it, and she puts this Oprah quote in there that said, I've learned, and I'm going to not say the quote perfectly, but like I've learned over time that there is always a small, quiet voice inside me that's leading me where I'm supposed to go. And the only times I've ever made mistakes in life is when I've chosen to ignore that voice. And I think that, to me, is the biggest step is like, as long as you're listening to the small, quiet voice inside you, you will always end up where you need to go, so you don't need to grip the wheels so tightly. Let go and get the gas and enjoy the view. Lesley Logan 39:30  Oh, Kristen, I'm obsessed. You're amazing. Y'all, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Let Kristen know. Let us know at the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend. Sometimes it's like the thing that someone needs to help them listen to that voice inside and, you know, write their way through it, or Pilates their way through it, or whatever it is, because we all have something we can do in this world. Thank you so much. And until next time everyone, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 40:37  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 40:42  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 40:47  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 40:54  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 40:57  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Fermented foods like sauerkraut, kimchi, miso, and kefir have long been a staple in traditional cultures all across the world. Today, science affirms that these fermented foods play an important role in human health by bolstering the immune system, calming inflammation, influencing the nervous system, and much more. On today's show, you're going to learn about the numerous health benefits of fermented foods and how you can incorporate them into your diet. This compilation episode features some of the top experts in the world, including epidemiologists, microbiome research scientists, nutrition experts, and more. You're going to learn how eating fermented foods impacts the microbiome, your cravings, your tastebuds, and your mental health. There are a multitude of amazing health benefits you can receive by adding fermented foods into your diet, and this episode is going to arm you with the knowledge you need to create a habit that works for your lifestyle. I hope you enjoy this compilation episode of The Model Health Show!  In this episode you'll discover: ·      How your gut microbes can influence your body composition. ·      The power of eating fermented foods, and how many servings to aim for. ·      Why sleep and the microbiome are two fundamental pillars of health. ·      How fermented foods create bioactive effects. ·      The benefits of sourdough bread. ·      Types of fermented foods you can make at home. ·      The role of kimchi in Korean culture. ·      Five specific things you can do to have a healthy microbiome. ·      The impact that polyphenols have on the microbiome. ·      How to implement time-restricted eating for better gut health. ·      Why fermented foods have the power to reduce stress. ·      The link between anxiety, neurotransmitters, and fermented foods. ·      How consuming vinegar before a meal can impact blood sugar and insulin. ·      The power of acetic acid. Items mentioned in this episode include: ·      PaleoValley.com/model  Use code MODEL for 15% off! ·      Beekeepersnaturals.com/model  Save up to 30% on natural remedies! ·      How Time Restricted Eating Transforms Your Biology with Dr. Andrew Huberman  Listen to episode 524! ·      The Truth About the Microbiome with Dr. Suzanne Devkota  Listen to episode 644! ·      How to Have Boundless Energy & Health with Ben Greenfield  Listen to episode 748! ·      The Truth About Gut Bacteria with Dr. Tim Spector  Listen to episode 683! ·      How Food Causes Stress or Reduces Stress  Listen to episode 734! ·      Get Clearer Skin with These Glucose Hacks with Jessie Inchauspé  Listen to episode 681!   Be sure you are subscribed to this podcast to automatically receive your episodes:  ·      Apple Podcasts ·      Spotify ·      Soundcloud ·      Pandora ·      YouTube   This episode of The Model Health Show is brought to you by Paleovalley and Beekeeper's Naturals. Use my code MODEL at PaleoValley.com/model to save 15% sitewide on nutrient dense snacks, superfood supplements, and more. Reinvent your medicine cabinet for with clean, effective products powered by the beehive & backed by science. Claim up to a 30% discount at beekeepersnaturals.com/model.

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Today, there is a wide array of exercises to choose from. While newly invented classes and workout modalities might be popular or enjoyable, there is one specific exercise that humans were designed to do: walking. On this episode of The Model Health Show, health expert and New York Times bestselling author Mark Sisson is back to share why walking is the foundation of human health, including its health and longevity benefits. Mark is also sharing the history of the running boom and why chronic cardio can break down your body and stop you from reaching your goals. This interview contains conversations on stress and cortisol, optimal footwear, and why getting fit doesn't have to be as difficult as you might have been led to believe. As a former marathon runner, Mark has a unique perspective to offer on this topic and I hope this conversation helps you find a simple, enjoyable movement practice that enhances your life. Grateful to share this interview with the one and only, Mark Sisson!    In this episode you'll discover:  How running became popularized in American culture. The connection between running and injuries. What types of exercises our ancestors did. How running can elevate cortisol levels and undermine your fat loss goals. The importance of muscle mass for metabolic health. What role insulin plays in body fat. Why running is catabolic. The truth about high intensity exercise classes. Why recovery is critical in your training program. The link between cortisol and immune function. How shifting from running to walking changed Mark's body composition. The history of running shoes. How cushioned running shoes can hide bad form. Why barefoot minimalist shoes can improve your overall functionality. The truth about running a marathon.Why being fit doesn't have to be hard.  Items mentioned in this episode include:  Beekeepersnaturals.com/model - Save 20% on raw honey & other natural remedies! Peluva.com/model - Get 15% off barefoot shoes with my code MODEL! Born to Walk by Mark Sisson - Get your copy of Mark's new book today! Connect with Mark Sisson Website / Instagram   Be sure you are subscribed to this podcast to automatically receive your episodes:   Apple Podcasts Spotify Soundcloud Pandora YouTube   This episode of The Model Health Show is brought to you by Beekeeper's Naturals and Peluva. Reinvent your medicine cabinet for with clean, effective products powered by the beehive & backed by science. Claim your 20% discount at beekeepersnaturals.com/model. Peluva's barefoot minimalist shoes support postural alignment, proprioception, and overall functionality. Get 15% off your order by using code MODEL at peluva.com/model.