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In this special episode, Lesley Logan sits down with Pilates icons Brooke Siler and Maria Earle for a deeply personal conversation that goes far beyond the reformer. As they celebrate the 25th anniversary of The Pilates Body, they reflect on career evolution, friendships formed during lockdown, and the courage it takes to become more embodied as our bodies change. From life as expats to the intentional decision to redefine a global Pilates classic, this episode is a reminder that strength, trust, and confidence are built from the inside out. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. 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Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Maria and Brooke's friendship deepened during global lockdown.Why the Pilates Body aesthetic needed to be questioned and reframed.What a Pilates body truly means beyond appearance and performance.Rediscovering Joe Pilates' original archival work to guide embodied movement.Owning grit and sustained effort instead of attributing success to luck.Episode References/Links:The Pilates Body Book, Revised and Expanded Edition by Brooke Siler - https://beitpod.com/pilatesbodyrevisedBrooke Siler's Website - https://www.brookesilerpilates.comBrooke Siler's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/brookesilerpilatesMaria Earle's Website - https://www.mariaearle.comMaria Earle's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/maria_earleLocal Bookstores - https://bookshop.orgReturn to Life Through Contrology by Joseph Pilates - https://a.co/d/0eqSRfGNGuest Bio:Brooke Siler began her Pilates training in 1994 under Joseph Pilates' protégée Romana Kryzanowska at Drago's Gym in New York City where she spent a decade studying under Romana's masterful tutelage. She opened her award-winning Manhattan studio, re:AB Pilates, in 1997 and was quickly embraced by Hollywood's A-list from Madonna to Dustin Hoffman, but Brooke is probably best known for penning the New York Times' best-seller The Pilates Body. The Pilates Body has become the highest grossing Pilates book of all time and she has followed it with titles: Your Ultimate Pilates. Body Challenge, The Pilates Body Kit, The Women's Health Big Book of Pilates and the Pilates Weight Loss for Beginners dvd. In 2021 Brooke launched her long-awaited, passion-product, The Tensatoner™! Brooke has studied anatomy, physiology, kinesiology, fascial networks and cadaver dissection with teachers: Tom Myers (Anatomy Trains), chiropractic physician Dr. Joe Muscolino (Know The Body), Leslie Kaminoff & Amy Matthews (Yoga Anatomy) and podiatristMaria Earle is an internationally recognized Pilates educator known for her warm, charismatic teaching style and deeply embodied approach to movement. With more than 27 years of experience in Pilates and wellness, she draws from decades of hands-on teaching, studio ownership, and advanced education to guide practitioners toward sensation-led, authentic practice. Based in Barcelona, Maria leads postgraduate teacher trainings and online education through her Digital Studio, supporting movers at every stage of life. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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It's about this reframing what it is to be in our bodies and to embodied and to celebrate all the different phases. I mean, my size has never defined me.Lesley Logan 0:27  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:10  All right, Be It babe, this is magical. If you had told me when I saw this podcast, I would have in this conversation, I would have like, no, what are you talking about? So while we normally don't talk a lot about Pilates on this podcast, everything is kind of Pilates to me. I have two incredible, humongously wonderful, brilliant, the biggest hearts of the entire world teachers on today's podcast, and we are going to talk about friendships and life and having brave conversations and and how do you accept an invitation to make an impact about something that is bigger than you? And this is really wonderful conversation. And so Maria Earle and Brooke Siler are our guests today, and we were talking about The Pilates Body book. And I'm honored. I can't believe I'm pinching myself that just fucking happened. I can't believe it. I can't believe I just got off like, two-hour chat with these wonderful women. What is my life? So anyways, I can't wait for you to hear this, and I do think it is a honest conversation about bodies and women and the things we go through. And I hope you love it and that you send it to a friend who needs to hear it, and you know, you tell us all about your favorite parts of it. Here they are. Lesley Logan 2:23  All right, Be It babe, we have like a dynamic duo. I'm not gonna lie, I also totally screwed something up when hitting getting everything ready, because I was so nervous and so excited, because I'm obsessed with both these women, I get to fan girl over them to their faces, which is very fun for me. So Maria and I got to officially meet in in Seoul Korea, but I had been following Maria Earle for a long time, and just watching she's just like, so graceful and so amazing and just wonderful everything she does. And I'm just like, I'm not graceful at all, but I just absolutely adored her. And I love like, I've spent time with her in Seoul, Korea, and so I feel like we'll always have a night in Seoul together. And then Brooke Siler, okay, so I went to, and you might not know this about me, Brooke, but I actually went to Pilates class, kind of kicking and screaming. I thought of that class was like a bunch of BS workout. I told the girl, it's an infomercial workout. It can't do what it claims, but I needed a friend. So I went to the class. And I was obsessed. Became obsessed with this class. I was like, oh, it was the most amazing thing I've ever done in my entire life. And I worked at South Coast Plaza, and I went to the bookstore, and I went to the fitness section, and I bought the Pilates book that was there, it was your book, I took it home, and I did every exercise like in the book. I started going to Pilates every single day. And you had a second book, and I bought that one. I was on the treadmill, like walking, like I was lifted, like I was obsessed. And then some, I moved to L.A., and someone's, like, can you be my Pilates instructor and like, kind of, you know, the internet and social media wasn't really a thing then. And then, fast forward to, I believe it was January of 2020, you were in L.A., and I was like, I have to go to this workshop. She doesn't know I'm so obsessed with her. And I went to the workshop and you taught an exercise a certain way that I had been teaching it that way, and I had no one had taught it to me like that, but I had just figured out like, and I pull straps I want my inner thighs up because it helps me get my butt on, helps me all these things. And you said it, and I was like, oh my God, I'm so validated right now. So anyways, I just had to tell you that, because, like, I you, like, even though I knew it was great, I just, like, needed someone like you to say it. I was like, this is amazing. So. Brooke Siler 4:31  Your little backup. Lesley Logan 4:32  Yeah, a little backup. So anyways, you've been part of my, like, be it till I see it as a Pilates person my whole life, and you and, like, for at least 20 years, and you didn't know it. But now I get to have the two of you on the Be It Till You See It podcast. So we'll start with Brooke. Brooke, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Brooke Siler 4:48  Yes. Well, first of all, thank you so much for having us. Me, us both. I, yeah, really excited to even have a conversation. I love being in a room with smart women. There's nothing better, really. So my name is Brooke Siler, as Lesley has already told you, I am an author. I'm a teacher. I started teaching in 1994 and then in 2000 I wrote the Pilates body, and it's been that fantastic 15 minutes of fame that has just gone on and on and on for me. I just am super blessed, super grateful. And yeah, I think that's who I am.Lesley Logan 5:25  Oh, my God, yeah, yeah. Then there's, I mean, like, when you have to, like, distill yourself down into a nutshell life, but it is, absolutely, we'll have to get into the 15 minutes of fame that keeps on giving you know for decades. Maria Earle, what do you rock at babe? Maria Earle 5:40  Hi. Also, thank you for putting this together. It's fun to be here with you two. So my name is Maria Earle, and I am a Pilates educator, and have been teaching Pilates since 1997 walked into the first Pilates studio a few years before that, and just never stopped. Anyway, I I'm based in Barcelona, Spain, and prior to that, I lived in New York City and had a Pilates studio for about eight years on the Upper East Side of Manhattan, and took a big leap of faith and moved abroad about 15 years ago, which it's funny when you put a number to it, but, yeah.Lesley Logan 6:29  I know, I know I feel really young until I realize how long I've been doing something. I'm like, oh, I mean, I'm still young, but also we aged in there.Maria Earle 6:38  So yeah, I have a Pilates studio here, and I run post graduate teacher training courses and online things. And, you know, trying to live my best life, basically.Lesley Logan 6:52  Yeah, do the best you can. Like, do the whole balance thing they all tell us to do. You're like, balance gotta work, the balance of work and life. And, you know, you have kids too, right, Maria? Maria Earle 7:01  I have one, though it feels like multiples, but there is only one. I'm like, yeah, yeah, there's one. Lesley Logan 7:10  Yeah, oh my gosh, okay, well, so I guess we can go, you know, we can go anywhere we want, but I actually would love to hear how the two of you got connected, because part of me goes like, did you know each other in New York? And the other part of me is like, so jealous when I hear that you've been doing Pilates since the 90s, like, I would wonder what my life would have been like had I learned it sooner. I'm always so jealous of people who did it in the 90s.Maria Earle 7:36  Yeah. You call that Golden Age.Brooke Siler 7:38  It really was. It really was a golden, I feel like it was, yeah, it was a Golden Age. Pilates. (inaudible) I feel like Maria and I maybe have orbited each other, because we seem to have been in a lot of the same places at the same times, but we didn't actually meet each other, until just 20, what did we determine it was? 2018?Maria Earle 8:01  2019Brooke Siler 8:02  2019 in Barcelona. I came over to teach a workshop at a studio there, and Maria was there, and she was Maria (inaudible) and it was her birthday, and I was like, oh, loud American, oh my gosh, in Spain, in this little studio. And, yeah, we, I, we just kind of got to chatting, but we didn't do much after that, did we? For a while.Maria Earle 8:28  We talked, I think we talked a few times, because we know are we allowed to say this about you living abroad already. Brooke Siler 8:36  I mean, I live abroad. Maria Earle 8:37  That's not a that's not a .Brooke Siler 8:39  No, it's not a secret. No, I live in the U.K.Maria Earle 8:42  So yeah, I think. Lesley Logan 8:44  What if Brooke is like, don't tell anyone I live in the U.K.Brooke Siler 8:50  I'm the witness protection program. But other than that.Maria Earle 8:53  Witness protection program, I was like, I don't know. You know, I'm not gonna. Anyway, so yeah, (inaudible) exactly. I think we connected. I mean, not only do we connect over, you know, Pilates or whatnot, but I think there was, like a real like, wait, you live in the U.K.? And you were like, wait, you live here now? We were both kind of like, well, what are you doing? What? And so there was, I think, you know, I remember a number of phone calls where we were talking about, you know, the, the challenge of, you know, uprooting your life. And in later years, you know, I mean, I didn't move here with children, but Brooke moved with children, and basically. Brooke Siler 9:41  Yeah, mine were nine and 11 when we moved. Maria Earle 9:43  You know, she needed to start running, like, from the get go. She needed to have all the things together, right? I, I moved here as a single person going, lalala. This is great. This is fun. And then, you know, sort of built my life deciding like, oh, I'm really going to stop. Here, and I'm going to make a life here for myself. And, you know, I've never looked back.Lesley Logan 10:07  Yeah, I think that's so I think this is so interesting, like, because we have a lot of people write in, like, how do you make friends when you're older? Like, I've moved and I think, like, that was obviously shared experiences. Like, you go somewhere, like everyone did you hear they went to a thing that they both are interested in, but then you you connect on another level. Like, I think that's the important part of like, having a friendship. Like, you have to, can't just be like, oh, we just go to Pilates class together. Like, there has to be this other shared thing. And it's like, oh, we're both expats, and we both had to, like, start a whole new life somewhere. And I'd imagine Brooke that it's quite challenging to do that with two kids, like, I imagine, like, because you had already written the book by then, the original Pilates Body Book, and then you move. And so then you're like, you have a whole life. You're a best selling author, and then you're like, a mom trying to get two kids into school.Brooke Siler 10:54  Actually, that was the whole point was I had been kind of this, the Pilates Body author, since 29 years old, 30 years old, right? So I was like, Who? And I started Pilates at 26 years old. So here I was 46 or something. I was like, who am I without this? Like, half my life has been this. Can I just be a mom? So when I moved here, I came with my husband's name, like, I was like, I'm not gonna say Siler, I'm not going to tell anyone I do Pilates. My stuff was in the garage. Like I am to be mom, and that's what I can't or mom, my kids totally do not have English accents, but so, yeah, that's what I was going to do. So I joined the PTA because I'm that person, and I, yeah, I made like, you know, we went to the pub and did the pub quizzes and did all that stuff while the kids were in school. I was mama, and of course, then what did I end up doing, teaching the teachers Pilates for free. I was like, hey, let me come and give you guys Pilates because you I like, how do you do this with kids that's so challenging. Let me do something for you. So I came and started teaching every Friday, giving them Pilates session, you, I can't get away. You can't get away from it like it's who you are. If you're a teacher, you're a teacher, and if your art is is Pilates. Like, you know, I feel like my, my vocation is teacher, and my, my medium is Pilates, you know.Lesley Logan 12:15  I understand that. I think like I, you were all going to teach something that happened, that we, you know, someone probably told all of us that we should become a teacher, and we're like, okay, I'll do that thing. Yeah, yeah.Brooke Siler 12:29  Pulled me back in. And it wasn't till lockdown. That's when Maria and I really came together, and that's when, yeah, my whole Pilates World opened right back up again.Lesley Logan 12:40  Interesting. So, like, did you guys? Because, I mean, obviously we've heard, like, I think it was Esther Peral was, like, the Covid was, like, the great accelerator, like, if you were gonna do something, it was gonna, you were gonna do it, and it's gonna do it faster. So you're either gonna, like, if you're gonna break up with someone, you broke up with them faster. If you were, like, Brad and I, we picked up our life and moved as well, and I did it three years earlier than we thought we ever could. And, and, and so, like, was that the great accelerator for your friendship? Was it a way that you guys got deeper because there was not as many distractions? How did that go?Brooke Siler 13:09  Yeah, what do you think Maria?Maria Earle 13:11  I think so. I mean, I so agree with the great accelerator. I mean, I always think about, I mean, for our friendship, for sure, but also, you know, stepping into, stepping into newness, in terms of professionally, stepping into things that, otherwise, you know, it was the kind of the kick in the ass that I needed for a number of things that I'm totally happy to talk about. Lesley Logan 13:36  Yeah.Brooke Siler 13:38  (inaudible) About it because we were, like a little women's group. There was four of us.Lesley Logan 13:42  Yeah, okay, if I obviously, what happens in a women's group stays in women's group. But like, if there's something we can talk about from women's group, I would love to because I think this is where, this is where a lot of women I find our listeners are, they can get really lonely, or they they want community, and they seek community, but then, you know, someone doesn't show up to something, and it gets easy to take it personally. Like, how did you guys have a women's group, and what did you just talk about?Brooke Siler 14:07  It was, it was a movement. I mean, we were working out together, is what it was. So, like, two, three times a week, we were working out together and.Maria Earle 14:15  And then doing a lot of chatting afterwards. (inaudible) Talk about, like, set your morning aside. I mean, like, don't book any clients until after 12. There is just, there's just too much that needs to pass.Brooke Siler 14:33  Everything, you know, everything that was happening in Covid that was so amplified was happening around us. And so we would sometimes, you know, we'd get on the we'd go to work out, but someone had had a morning, something had happened, someone had seen something and and we would, you know, tears and sharing, and yeah, we yeah, all the things happened, yeah, yeah. But it was an unlikely like, none of us really knew each other knew each other before. And, yeah, we're an interesting foursome, actually.Lesley Logan 15:03  I love but I love it because it's like, I think, you know, you said side of the time, and it just evolved naturally. But also, like, when women do get together and they're and they share that, and they can be vulnerable, you know, they say, like, you know, movement is how, like, we like, trauma can leave the body. We can heal the body. Like, it's so important. I have a yoga class that I go to, and the first few minutes are kind of somebody bitching about something, and then we get into the yoga and then by the time the yoga is over, whatever that was like, moved out of all of us. And then, and then you can wrap up the conversation, if somebody needs to. And I sometimes kind of wish it went an hour longer, you know, I can imagine what a wonderful way to, like, very therapeutic.Brooke Siler 15:44  There's the physical workout and the emotional workout. They both kind of conjoined. Maria Earle 15:50  Yeah and when you just, when you just commit to it, you just lock into it, and that just becomes your non negotiable. Like, that's just, that's just what I do on Tuesdays and Thursday mornings, like, you know, sometimes things would come up, but we.Brooke Siler 16:07  We're committed to one another, to ourselves and to one another. Lesley Logan 16:10  Yeah. And that's like, so, okay, this is the hard part, right? Because, like, we're all teachers here. And like, we have the clients who, like, you know, they want to come three times a week, and then they and then they book, you know, this coffee date and this thing. And then we have the teachers who also say they want these things, or the women who are like, not necessarily teachers, because this is not most of the people don't even do Pilates listeners. But like the people, like they're they want this, but it is a commitment, like it is an actual like, you are not just coming Tuesdays and Thursday mornings until noon, but you're making sure everyone in your life knows about it so that it's things do come up, but they're kind of rare, because there's rarely, like, an actual emergency that can't be done on another day, like, there's, you know. So how did you guys, like, how did did you tell, like, Maria you have a kid, did you tell your one kid and Brooke, I'm assuming your kids are a little older now, but like, were they aware that, like, hey, leave me alone. This is my private time. How did you get the commitment to be something you could come to without the pressures of, like, all the guilt of all being a mom?Maria Earle 17:07  I don't know. I blocked it out. Brooke Siler 17:09  Yeah, me too. What guilt? That was our time?Maria Earle 17:15  No, I don't know. It's funny because I actually, I.Brooke Siler 17:20  Also we have boys, I feel like that needs to be said (inaudible).Maria Earle 17:25  Yeah, maybe, I mean, you know, it could have been messy, like, I don't know, but I know that it was time, not only well spent, obviously, But it was time that was so important to me that I just, I figured out how to make it work. And, you know, maybe sometimes I could only log in for a little while, or, you know, sometimes I'd say, like, I gotta, I gotta go. I gotta go, you know, I I just, I want to, I want to check in. I want to say that I love you, and like, hi, but like, I have all this going on. I, that's it. That's all I got for you. They'd be like, you know, bye, we need just that little bit of like, you got this, you know. Lesley Logan 18:16  Well and it also it sounds so it sounds a little bit like one, you know, you needed it for yourselves, and like, you did that, and they were, like, unapologetic about that. And then two, you found the right people that would understand if you couldn't, and they wouldn't take it personally, and they wouldn't hold it against you. And I think that's where a lot of people have screwed up in their groups, of their friendships. It's like they kind of have kept people from a long time, and you know, like, aren't good at voicing what they need or or even knowing what they need. So then it, it gets muddled, and it becomes an uncomfortable situation.Brooke Siler 18:48  I'm I'm wondering now if maybe what worked in our favor was that we weren't friends beforehand, really. We kind of we, we solidified the friendship, but actually we grew the friendship in lockdown. So we were learning about each other. So it was not only the interest in showing up to move, but we were also interested, I think, you know, in each other and one another, and each one of us had so many amazing things happen to us. You know, Alicia started a podcast, and Karen, like, set up her studio. And, you know.Brooke Siler 19:18  Maria bought. Maria Earle 19:20  Oh yeah, I bought my studio (inaudible). Brooke Siler 19:23  We were there for for all these things, you know. And we could share, like, hey, what do you guys think? And each one of us so has a different kind of forte, and we just feel like the universe just kind of made that all happen. So, without too esoteric, it really was yeah meant to be we and we yeah I think it became that, like.Maria Earle 19:45  It became a rock.Brooke Siler 19:46  You do, yeah.Lesley Logan 19:48  Yeah, and then and, I mean, like, life the world is open. Have you been able to keep the Tuesday and Thursdays together, like you guys still hanging out? Brooke Siler 19:57  It became different. It's shape shifted. It's. Not the same. It's more like, you know, yes, the world is open. There's so many other things going on. I mean, listen, I had to write a book just to see Maria again. I mean, that there was that moment of like, yeah, after having written the book, I was then like, oh, someone actually has to be the model in this. Who and I just, it was immediate. It wasn't even, like, a second I didn't even have a second choice. Like, had she said, no, I was screwed.Lesley Logan 20:31  So, so, so we're, I mean, of course, everyone's like, hold on. We have so many questions about this. Like, women's group, but we're gonna move on, guys, because we only have so much time. But like, if you, if you Brooke Siler's name does not ring a bell from The Pilates Body book, but, but that we, you know, I've literally moved with every apartment. It ever moved with me and into this house, and it didn't even go into a closet, like it's on the shelf. You know, because I think it represents, like the time when I was, like, I was, I believe so much that people can have an independent Pilates practice. And because I was like, but this book gave me that, like, I was able to have an independent Pilates practice. And I I think that, like, that's so necessary for the world we all live in today, to have, you know, to have enough Pilates in our life, whether you're a teacher or not, you need to have some way of doing it. So I was trying to look it up before we started talking, when did you write this book the first time?Brooke Siler 21:24  I started writing it in 1999 and it was published in 2000. Lesley Logan 21:28  Okay, so that's wow, so it's been 25 years. So then you had so then you're like, I'm gonna write it again. I guess.Brooke Siler 21:36  I was like, we should celebrate. It's 25 years, and I still have people coming and saying, oh, my God, my career started because of Pilates, because of The Pilates Body, and that was the first book I ever had, and I've heard that for 25 years, and it felt like, definitely, you know, the, Pilates is bigger now than ever. And I was like, how amazing would it be if we if we did a 25th anniversary, and I brought my literary agent, and she was like, yes, love the idea. And then we brought it to an editor, and they were like, yes, love the idea. And they were like, but, and I just thought, actually, I could, you know, there's that one copy of the Joe Pilates book where it's two of his books together. I thought it was going to get off really easy and just combine the first two books. And so I said to the editor, can't we just put the two together and make it.Lesley Logan 22:21  This one too. Brooke Siler 22:22  Yes, exactly. Wouldn't that be perfect? And then I don't have to do anything. And they were like, No, you have to put new material in there. And I was like, oh, okay. So I hear the things that are of interest to me at this time, like I'm doing a lot of deep work on breathing. I'm doing a lot of deep work on this (inaudible) and that's a whole nother topic, but they chose one, and that was what I went with. And so when I started doing the deep digging, it was, I mean, I had already done the deep digging, I should say, but then starting to try to put it into terms that could be easily understood, and how to make it blend deeper with Pilates. And it was stuff that I was doing that we were doing in our Tuesdays, Thursdays, you know, I always come with ideas. I'm like, hey guys, let's try this thing I've been playing with. And there they were just always game. They were very generous with me and allowing me to test out all of my crazy ideas on them. And yeah, so this one just kept sticking. And then I was teaching online classes, and people were like, writing me afterwards, going, Oh my God, I feel amazing. I can't believe, like, what this feels like. And I was like, okay, cool. So I not only wrote it, but I was like, listen, it's 25 years. I'm going to rewrite all the they didn't give me a budget to do all the photos again. So the photos are the same as they were, and the layout is the same, but I pretty much rewrote everything, like, I updated the language and put in new variations and a lot of archival, you know, just bringing Joe into it, because lockdown, I dug deep, deep in Joe's, you know, treasure trove, and put, like, instead of looking outside of Pilates, I just went back in. I feel like it's that when you go to the dentist, and they used to have the treasure chest and you could pick a toy, it's like, I just went, I did a deep dive into the, Maria, I did a deep dive in and found all. Lesley Logan 24:11  Maria, your dentist didn't have a treasure chest because mine did. And an aquarium, okay? And I would watch the rocket fish go across like I was my favorite.Brooke Siler 24:20  Yes, exactly, yes. So I just yeah, I think, you know, I was pulling stuff out and trying stuff, and they were loving it. And that's the way my mind works. I feel like lockdown for me was an incredible like, everything shut down, out, out, and my brain just went absolutely mad creative. Like I just couldn't stop creating. It was, it was amazing. Lesley Logan 24:44  So you're listening to this everyone. The book is already out, like we're talking about this before I've had my hands on a copy. And of course, I'm like, now (inaudible) even more than I was when you first told me about it, but like I do so and I'm excited to hear what Maria's response was like. Like to also You were telling her, I'm gonna redo this. Like, there is something about, like, Okay, I think we should celebrate. It's gonna be easy. But then it's like, okay, great. Now I've get to redo it. The in the redoing, it's like, you there's things that you can change, because you've had 25 years of teaching on top of it, 25 years of testimonial, 25 years of hearing people say they love this, or have questions about this, like, not many people get a redo and in life, you know, so. So Maria, when she came to you and said she was redoing this, is there anything that like you were the most excited about, that you were like, like, what? What part did you get to explore with her, that you were excited to be in the book?Maria Earle 25:38  Well, my, my role is a very tiny, tiny little role.Lesley Logan 25:43  No way, no way, no.Brooke Siler 25:47  Let's just call bullshit on that. I mean, it's not.Maria Earle 25:50  That is not true. What I mean to say is that, basically, as Brooke said, right, she had been developing these ideas and had an opportunity to basically add a new section to the book. And needed, and needed wanted to have somebody to to be the model for that new chapter. And I got to be someone who sort of got to be in the behind the scenes, like I got to sort of be in her brain a little bit while she was, you know, having this explosive sort of creativity moment, you know, I got to, I got to experience firsthand, you know, her process. And that was amazing. And, you know, I mean, I guess we could joke a little bit about this Brooke, because she she said she sort of hinted to it earlier when she said that, you know, she wanted me to do the book, but you know, she was like, if she said, no, you know, what was I going to do, right? You know, so I think so it took her a little while because she knew that I might like run for the hills when she's asking me to be the, you know, the model.Brooke Siler 27:05  The Pilates Body to be out there. Yeah. Maria Earle 27:08  I was like, Brooke, are you crazy? You know, is like my first reaction, you know. So, you know, do you want to do this? You know, before I'm 50 or after I'm 50, you know, I do you? You know who you're talking to, right? You know I was like, so is this, like a wedding boot camp kind of thing that I need to, like, get myself, like, totally, like, in shape or whatever.Lesley Logan 27:49  Whatever that means, yeah, yeah, yeah.Maria Earle 27:51  And she was like, No, I want you to just be you and talk about leap of faith. Talk about, like, stepping into, like, the scary bits and saying, Okay, I I trust you, yeah, and I believe in your vision, and I want to step into that space 100% because it is what I believe. Like, let's celebrate, let's celebrate the body as it is, like, let's, let's give it a whole another dimension here, you know, let's cut through the bullshit of what it means to have a Pilates body, and let's reframe that dialog. And no, I'm not going to get photoshopped as much as I, you know that little my head is like, well, could. Brooke Siler 29:04  We had a lot of conversations. Maria Earle 29:05  Couldn't they just a little, no, right? So it's like this, like inner dialog of over months and months, you know? And that is powerful and beautiful. And I, I could not have asked for am better partner to to do that with, and, you know, a safe space to like, be, no, I'm going to step into this, and I'm going to do it big, and it's going to be, it's going to be yeah and and, yeah. It feels great to be a part of something that is, it's bigger than me. It's bigger it's bigger than the book. It's bigger than us together. It's bigger than all of it. It's, it's, it's, it's about this reframing what what it is to be in our bodies. And to embodied and to and to celebrate all the different phases. I mean, my size has never defined me, and I have been, you know, I am not the size I was when I was 25.Lesley Logan 30:18  Nor I and probably not, right? I I love that we're going here, because I just have to say, like, we're recording this two weeks after so my youtube channel hit 40,000 subscribers, which I'm at the time, this is where, and I was so freaking stoked, because, like, I did it without, like, putting I did it without, like, doing a, you know, tits and ass workout, without, like, you know, the fake Pilates, like, we'll call it Pilates, but it's just, mostly just sit ups, like, I did it without, like, put on, I did it with, like, just educational support. And I'm so proud of what we did. And on the day that we hit 40,000 somebody wrote, your stuff is really great, but you used to be thinner, and it was really, the videos are really great when you were thinner. What happened? Of course, other subscribers are like, this is not helpful. This is why teachers and trainers are afraid to gain weight. Like, wonderful, supportive stuff and to and like, my response to this per and the person doubled down. So in case we're wondering, like, maybe it's a cultural thing, like, we have a house in Cambodia, and people will inquire, like, oh, you're bigger. Why? Because maybe you're rich. They want it like, like, you know, like, that's kind of different cultures. Have different experiences. So, so I was trying to like, so in case we thought maybe it's a cultural translation thing. No, they doubled down. They said it's a calories in, calories out. She could have better discipline. Oh, and to which I got pissed off, because I don't, I don't have the body I had at you know, when I discovered, when I when Pilates discovered me at 22 like I am, first of all, I am no longer sick. I no longer have digestive issues. I now absorb nutrition. I also like happen to look a lot better with curves. Thank you very much. But I, for the record, like I told I went online and told people, yeah, I've gained 40 pounds. I am the most disciplined person I know. I probably do Pilates more than people other people do who have different bodies than me. You cannot have fat phobic comments on my channel. This is wrong for so many reasons. I hope you have space and grace for yourself and others when your body's changed, because they will and it's and I really appreciate you sharing that journey, Maria, about your body too. It's like, I think so many teachers and so many women are afraid to put themselves out there, whatever their thing is. We can even switch Pilates to being an author, being a speaker or being a doctor, like every woman is so afraid. Well, I don't look like whatever x is supposed to look like. And so people are going to judge me. And then, because they don't put themselves out there, because they're afraid they'll be judged, then the only people that are out there are 22 year olds in their super cute outfits that have never looked good on me. And so, of course, like so then people think that's what it is. And so then we have this whole misunderstanding. Brooke Siler 33:05  It's really, it's a, it's, yeah, it is dysmorphia, and it's a really sad commentary, and it's, and, you know, I'm, don't let me get started on a patriarchy, because I will. Lesley Logan 33:16  We can, but yeah. Brooke Siler 33:19  You know, it's, it's this. It's not only an unrealistic ideal, but like, who's even the one coming up with that shit? It's just ridiculous. And the thing is, we've all bought into it at some stage in our lives. And certainly it's something that, you know, it can be on so many different levels. But Maria and I were talking about this too. There was plenty of times, like, even, you know, you'd want to Photoshop this, or there's the cellulite there, and there's the whole thing, and in the end of the day, we're wiser than we've ever been in our lives. We are more powerful in our own ways than we've ever been in our lives. We can move beautifully in at our this age in our lives. I started taking tennis last year. I go three times a week. One, I've never in my life played tennis. I started at 56 you have to love that and like, fuck it. I don't care if my thighs are thicker. I'm like, really enjoying what I can do in this body. And that's what a Pilates body always was. I did even look back in 2000 when I wrote the book, the if you go through the three models at the beginning, there is a passage at the Afterword that says, I chose these three models because of their they were teaching because they're teachers. Their ability to do the actual movements and endure the long photo shoots of the day, they happen to work for me. So that was very easy. They were there. I didn't do like a whatever they call that, a model call, you know, they they worked for me, so it was perfect. They were amazing teachers who were had modern dance backgrounds, so they were strong as shit, and they were beautiful. And I wrote, I hope in earnest, that they that they inspire and don't intimidate. And I wrote that in 2000 because for me, I already knew it's not about having a skinny you know, body, a particular type of body. It was just they were there to model the work, and I knew they could do it. And these are longer days of shooting. So with Maria, I knew her. I knew her work, because we've been working out together for years, and I could see her power and what she could do with her body. And I thought actually in the way she moved, coming from Kathy Grant, but she has this beautiful way of moving different than what I experienced from Ramana. So I loved it, and I thought it fit so perfectly. And it was very much about, you know, it's got a lot of Maria in it too, which is this beautiful, you know, soul. It's about sensing internally. And so it's, it's a kind of, it's a really nice, I think, flip. It's not that the work. I mean, she killed it, I will say, and I'm just going to admit this, I knew she was going to do an amazing job. I really, I can't actually believe how incredible she was, really. And she knows I say this all the time to her, because she, she killed it. She was a superstar rock star, like, if she couldn't get the thing, she was like, save it. We'll do it again at the end. Like she just, there was determination, like, nothing I've ever seen. It was a very long day of shooting, and I it was like, yeah. I was like, wow, that was really the right choice. I mean, I knew it was the right choice from the beginning. It was, it was a no choice choice. She was a no choice choice. It was just gonna be Maria or it was gonna be no one, and thank God, she took a day, I think, like a day, right when I asked you, and then, like, the next day, she was like, right, I'm good. Because I remember saying to my husband, like, what if she didn't do it? Like, I needed to be her. It's just her. It just was her. It was like, meant to be you. So. Lesley Logan 36:40  Oh yeah, but I, and I, Maria, first of all, like, I don't, I you, there's something about you that's just so magical that you could even, I don't even know, I don't know if I could take the day, I probably would have been like, I'm fucking scared. And, you know, but you know, like, I don't what, what did you think about? What did you? Did you journal? Like, what did you, what? How did you how did you contemplate the decision? Because you're correct, it's hard to find the words for it. It is going to be bigger than this book is any bigger because, because the book was already bigger than Brooke already, and so and so. And also I just want to say, like, I love that there. I love that the height of Pilates being so popular. This book is coming out again, because I do think it brings some authenticity to the work that we're doing. So what did you do during the day to, like, come to the decision we all want to know how you contemplated?Maria Earle 37:30  Well, I think, I think definitely it was a process. It was a number of conversations, you know, and and I knew in my heart that I that I had to say yes, I knew that it would be a major regret if I let fear and you know, like the little the little naysayers, you know you shouldn't be doing that, or what business do you have? You know nobody wants to see you know you. I knew that all those little voices that I ultimately would regret letting them win. So I knew that I had to say yes, and then basically I had to work backwards from the yes to convince myself that I was okay and that, that, you know, and luckily, luckily, I got good people on my corner, so, so whenever I felt like I needed to, oh God, oh God, what have I done? I'm not ready for that. Wait. I need that boot camp, you know, I maybe, if I did lose, you know, the 20 pounds that I've gained, you know, in the past 10 years, perimenopause is kicking my ass, you know, what if I, maybe I could, oh, God, like whenever I would sort of hit those high rev panic moments, you know, I just have to go to Brooke and whoever else was, were my rocks, you know. And you know, while I'm like, circling and, you know, and I can't land right, and they would be like, it's okay, we got you. This is going to be amazing. This is this and that, and.Brooke Siler 39:20  (inaudible) believing the people that see you like you almost have to see yourself through others' eyes like it was no doubt in my mind that you were perfect, perfect, but I just that's you know, you had to go through your process to get there, and I had to respect that. But yes, I was going to tell you how amazing and beautiful and stay as you are and like, think about how many people get to look and say, Oh, I feel that's me. I'm there. I'm being represented. It's, yeah.Maria Earle 39:52  I mean, because it's important. It's about, it's about really stepping into, stepping into that space, and that stepping into that space is really scary, but I show up that way from my clients every day, yeah, but I don't necessarily show up for myself in that way, and that is something that I don't like to admit. So I am admitting it here, and I'm admitting it now, but you won't ever hear me say it again. No, I'm joking. (inaudible) Maybe now I'll be able to say it more often, which is, like, I, you know, I fall into the same body traps, you know, even though I, I will with my clients and with the teachers who I work with, and, you know, my friends, I like show up with body positivity, and you are beautiful and you are powerful. And I don't, let's not worry about the, you know, the extra little curvy there, like, let's get strong. Let's get moving. Because it's about the moving, and it's about feeling strong, feeling great in your body. It's not about how your body looks. I do that for people all day long. And then when it comes to myself, it's like, right? Until it's like eating you up inside. And so and so the process, the process is not overnight. It's like a long term, term thing. And you know, the book's gonna come out, and I'm probably gonna hide under my covers for every day. Lesley Logan 41:17  For a few minutes, and then we're all gonna drag you out.Brooke Siler 41:21  We're coming in after you for sure (inaudible0.Lesley Logan 41:25  I'm gonna text you the day after it comes out to make sure that you're like, I I appreciate and that you said those things, because it's true. Like, I think we all hear like we're all that for our clients, like they body shame themselves, like, hold on, we're reframing that. And in the process of loving the body that I'm growing into. And, you know, there is all the things, because we were raised in, as our brain was developing, we were raised with the five minutes of tone here, the this here, like I was in modeling, and, of course, like I was like, working out all the time. And you guys went at a commercial agent and a modeling agent, and on the same day, the modeling agent said you're not thin enough, and my commercial agent said you're getting too skinny. And I was like, oh, I don't actually know what to do today. Like, I don't know what to do today because I'm now not hireable in commercials, according to you, but I'm not hireable enough because the modeling agency want to be a fitness model, but I wasn't toned enough to be a fitness model, but I wasn't skinny enough to be a model, model, and so, like you so and so here's, here's what I did. You guys, my agents were across the street from a fonuts, which is, if you've ever been to L.A., it's a non fried, gluten free donut shop. Okay, so the donuts are not fried. It's only gonna happen in L.A. and I I fucking went to the donut shop. I was like, fuck it. I don't even know what to do, and I consciously eating my feelings. Right now, I am an adult enough to understand. I do not, I have a therapy session around this, but I was just like, no one is going to be happy. And that is what I like sat on this bus stop with my donut, and I remember, like, no one's happy, and I told my husband, I said, I think I'm gonna let go of the agents. And I don't know what that means, because I don't I wasn't like wasn't like, wasn't like, I was I wasn't a dream of mine, but I was also like, I can't like, I can't handle these people and my own thoughts, like my own reaction, like, I can't my own thoughts of like my body changing and who I'm becoming, and trying to get healthier and absorb B vitamins, you know, anything to live on this planet like, and also have outside people tell me things like, so I that was, that was when I actually let go of but I will say, like, because we all go through that we can be very body positive and still have these things about ourselves. And I, I think it's hard to admit, but it's also like, it's, it's just honest, and it's a process, because I do think that in people falling in love with their bodies and seeing different bodies doing these strong exercises, they're still going to have their own thoughts to themselves. I can't do that. That's not what my body like all the and we have to go, you're going to have all those thoughts, and you're still invited to this party, because, like, we should have always been moving for the health of it and not for the shape of it. And I don't know when we stop working out for the shape. I don't know when that stops, but I do appreciate your honesty there, Maria. And I think it's I'm excited for what people are going to say and see and do.Maria Earle 44:37  Yeah, and also I would say, I would say something about to sort of bring a couple threads through that in that deep dive that Brooke did, like really looking into the archival work and looking at, you know, the pictures that Joe took doing his mat work, like we we sat with the book, you know, during the photo shoot, like we sat with the book and we were like, how is he doing this? As opposed to, and no, no zero shade, but different than looking at a manual or the gorgeous models that were in book one, right, that were all contemporary or ballet dancers who were making shapes, beautiful shapes, that were in very much influenced by the an esthetic that comes from dance. So you know, Mr. Pilates' swan is not a full extension with fingertips facing the ceiling, right? But we have that in our manual as like, that's what the swan dive is supposed to look like, right? And so we bought into an esthetic that doesn't necessarily, really, it's not, it's an it's an it's just that, it's just the esthetic, period, right.Brooke Siler 46:09  It doesn't even serve the body in the same way that when you realize what Joe was asking, and I always kind of joke about this, how many times I looked at those pictures in the book before lockdown, you know, for years before, because Romana had them on her walls and all of that. And in my mind, he was not in great form, not matching what I was being told. So, like, he needs to do this, he needs to soften his knees. He needs to and then when I started, really, and I've read those books a lot of times. I mean, honestly, before lockdown, I had already they were dog eared and highlighted in every color anyway. But then I went back in and, you know, every time you reread something, you read it with new eyes you because it's where you are. You need it. It meets you where you are in that moment, and it met in this place that was so perfect, because I really read it, I really I heard it, I saw it, and I thought, let me try what he's actually saying, because I had not, not done that. I just, blind faith, went with what I knew from my teacher, of course, who you know again, no shade there, either. Like, fantastic. It got me so far. But then being able to take Joe's words and his vision and his you know, he wanted to help us really be in our bodies and move better during the day. So when we did it that way, when we really got into the nitty gritty of what he was asking, and then the feeling like Maria was saying after the photo shoot, that she was like, Oh my God, I feel incredible. Like, not exhausted, and, I mean, maybe exhausted from the energy of it, but like, the feeling in the body is a good feeling, as opposed to.Maria Earle 47:53  Not fighting the body I was not, I was not fighting myself doing the exercises. I think that's, I think that's really, I think there's really something to that, you know, that you're not in a battle against you and the exercise, or you and the shape, and you trying to get into the shape, be the shape and and, you know, you'll see, you'll see the pictures. It's, it's not rocket science. It's not anything incredibly incredible. It's actually pared down. It's actually not performative, and therefore it's, it's, it's gonna resonate at a different level. And for some people, they're gonna be, like, it's just that.Brooke Siler 48:42  I said there's gonna be people who just rip the new chapter off and throw it away.Maria Earle 48:46  Like, well, what is this? You know. But if you're ready for it and you're in, you're willing to, like, excavate, and do the, do the work, as they say, right, then you're going to be like, Oh, this is this. This there. This is different. This feels different. This is, this is me being in my body in a different way. It's in my body in my way, as opposed to in somebody else's way, where I'm trying to, you know, do that, yeah, that what's happening down there at the end of the line.Brooke Siler 49:34  Very internal chapter in its own way. You can, you can enjoy it for the beautiful photos. But really, what's happening inside Maria in it is what's really, it's about and, and it's, you know, it will, it will be a new thing that people can take or leave. But it's really, I dug deep, and then I combined it with this natural thing called pandiculation. Which is what dogs, our pets, do all the time. You know, this, this lengthening and it's and then when I looked at the archival footage, pictures of Joe and the videos, I was like, Wait, that's what he's doing. And that's what he was saying, natural law of nature, how we move. Watch the animals. I was like, you know it was. And so, yeah.Lesley Logan 50:23  Yeah, yeah. I, I'm, thank you for saying what pandiculation was because I was like, I'm gonna have to look that up.Brooke Siler 50:28  And by the time you're, you know, this comes out, you will.Lesley Logan 50:32  but I can't wait for that. But I it's true. Like, my, my dog gets out of bed every morning, and he does both stretches, right? And I like, look at that. I'm like, I don't, I don't get out of bed and go. Lesley Logan 50:41  But he, you know when he does it 30 or 40 times a day. And they do it every time they move, because we don't like if you try to stretch your dog, they don't like stretch. If you try to pull your dog's leg, they don't like that. What dogs are doing? Pandiculation was fascinating. And when we do it, when we it's basically the word for yawn and stretch. It was developed in the 70s, whatever. Anyway, when you yawn and stretch, we think we're stretching, but we're actually contracting. So when you do this, you're not actually stretching the front. You're contracting the back of you and then releasing. And it becomes a signal that's sent to the brain so you actually learn how to regulate your muscle tension. It's phenomenal. Joe didn't say the word pandiculation, but he absolutely asked us to do what the animals do, and that's what the animals do, because it circulates your blood. It's so freaking cool. I just can't wait. I honestly, you know. Lesley Logan 51:37  I keep watching. I sent Brooke a little gif of, like, someone like, watching the mailbox. I'm watching the mailbox. I'm like, she's like, Lesley, I don't have my copy yet. And I'm like. Brooke Siler 51:47  My copy, yeah, no, I can't wait. Lesley Logan 51:49  I I'm really, I'm really stoked for this. I think, I think also, we're ready. I think there's a huge part of the community that's ready for our conversation about this. I think women who are, like, seeking actual Pilates class, are seeking this conversation, and I think you're giving people permission to do it at home, which has always been something that, like, I'm a huge fan of like, I just think that, like, we keep saying we want Pilates to be accessible, but it's not necessarily like about the price of classes, y'all. It's like making sure they have the ability to do it independently, on their own, because I truly believe that that is where confidence is built. It's like creating this agency within themselves. Like, I can do this, you know, I can look at me, I can do these. I can do this move. I can I can feel this in my body, and then go on the day. Like, I think women especially need that internal strength and agency that, yes, it's great to have a teacher like any one of us, to have eyes on you and like to give you some actual corrections. But also, I think sometimes we are always outsourcing. People are like, what are we? Am I good enough to somebody else's opinion and and really, I just want women to have that. So when you Brooke told me about this, I was like, fuck yeah, I'm in whatever it is you're doing I'm in,Brooke Siler 53:06  Developing that sense of internal trust, instead of always asking for the approval to come from the outside. Way to get to start approving of ourselves, feeling that we can trust what we feel, what we know. I don't care if you're I always tell my class it doesn't matter what I say. Literally, if I come over and I'm in your face saying, lift your leg. Lift your if it is not right for you, do not do it. Do not listen to me. Please. You have full permission not to listen to me. Listen to you. Only you are in your body. Only you know what you're feeling. So it has to be a joint you know, conversation that's happening, it can't just come from one side, so I am also really here for the conversations that will come from this and, yeah.Lesley Logan 53:53  Okay, we, I think the three of us could talk for hours, and we're, I'm already, I sorry, I looked at the clock. Hope you have a few more minutes. We're gonna take a brief break, and then find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you and your Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 54:08  All right, ladies, we'll go. So what Maria? Where do you hang out? Where's your favorite place? She's gonna drink her tea. Where's your favorite place for people to connect with you? How can they work with you? What do you got?Maria Earle 54:23  So people can look me up, find me, contact me through my website mariaearle.com I also have an IG handle that is my name, Maria Earle, and yeah, I would say those are the two best ways to connect with me.Lesley Logan 54:41  Perfect, Brooke, what about you? And where can they buy this book? If they haven't gotten it already?Brooke Siler 54:47  It will be at all your favorite booksellers. I hope, I mean it's, you know, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, all those kinds of great places. And hopefully we'll get it into, you know, small bookstores too. I love the old (inaudible) bookshops.Lesley Logan 54:59  But also, they don't sponsor the show, but I heard, I heard it's bookshop.org, y'all, if you want to support small business, small bookstops, you can look there and see if it's there. When you buy it there, then they send money to a local bookstore. I don't know how that works, but that's what the commercials say. And do you do you hang on Instagram? What's your website? Where can they find you for more?Brooke Siler 55:17  I think it's pretty simple. So it's BrookeSilerPilates, all one word, and that's the website. That's my Instagram handle, that's my Gmail account, BrookeSilerPilates@Gmail. (inaudible) It's a one-stop shop. Yeah, so you can and I'm very I do like, I am social. I do like sharing and hearing back from people. I feel like it's really funny on Instagram. I'll put something up and be like, tell me what you think. And everyone's like, this is great, but nobody answers like, the question, yeah. I'm like, no, no. I really mean it, like I actually want to be in a conversation with you, but.Lesley Logan 55:52  Yeah, no, I feel the same. Brooke, they don't, they don't do it for this year. Brooke Siler 55:55  Yeah. I don't need the flattery, like, thank you, but I don't need that. I just really, actually want to know what do you think and what do you what are you doing? And, yeah.Lesley Logan 56:04  Yeah, yeah. Well, you know what, that'll be our next that'll be our next thing is like, how do we get women to share what they're actually thinking without thinking what they're thinking is wrong, you know? But that's, that's another in the next 25 years. Okay, I feel like I have tons of takeaways, but I still we have to in the show how we always end it with our Be It Action Items, so bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted, steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Well, whoever wants to go first?Brooke Siler 56:34  I mean, yeah. I mean, so, you know, I listened to another podcast you did where that came up, and I realized that it was the orthodontist. She was wonderful, and yeah, and I was thinking I felt quite similarly. I just kind of never believed that I couldn't, that I can't. I just do I don't, I don't sit. And there are things that I sit in question for sure, I think I have, like many women, you know, the fear of being judged. Who the hell wants that? There's nothing nice about that. So there are times that, like putting myself out there can definitely, I can feel stopped, but I'm, I believe very much in pushing through that. And I, I have had a Buddhist mentor since for like, 18 years now and so. And she's always like, you know, the only way out is through. So you just, you push through. You go through that. So I push through fear. Like, if I see fear, I'm gonna head toward it. It may take me a while, but I'm going toward that number one and number two. I don't know if it's just some innate sense of confidence. I just when I have an idea, I want to share it. And when you, when I think of it as being something that I'm sharing, it doesn't feel like it's a scary thing. I'm like, I love it. You said you love it. Let's just do it, it. It's just like that. So I think, for me, when I think of it as sharing, rather than me doing something for you, then to react to it's much it just makes it much more palatable to move forward, because I love sharing. I'm a group, I'm a group, I'm a, I'm a. I like my independence. I like to be on my own. I do a lot of stu

This episode is a reminder that wins don't always have to look flashy to count. Lesley shares the story of a young woman who refused to accept rejection—and proved what belief in yourself can unlock. You'll also hear a powerful community win about walking away from work that no longer fits and choosing freedom instead. Plus, Lesley reframes her own win as something many people overlook: staying consistent as a beginner and celebrating progress without needing perfection. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The story of Sabrina building and flying her own plane.Why being told no does not mean you are not enough.Believing in yourself matters more than external validation.Letting go of work that no longer fits can feel like freedom.Why being consistent at something new still counts as a win.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsSabrina Gonzalez Pasterski - https://beitpod.com/sabrinapasterski If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:43  Hello, Be It babe. How are you? Oh my gosh. It is February. It is the day before a holiday that even if you think it's a Hallmark holiday, maybe some of you don't even know what a hallmark is anymore, but even if you think it's like a made up holiday, I do think it's the best time to tell all the people that you don't tell you love all the time, that you love them, you know. And also, on this day, you realize how great pink and red look together. I mean, they look so good together, right? So these are episodes where you do some inspiration stuff. We talk a little bit about the things that you're kicking ass at. You get a mantra to get on with your weekend. Super fast, super easy. Hopefully you find these fun, let me know. You can also send your wins in for me to shout you out on a Friday's FYF episode, to beitpod.com/questions so you can leave questions or you can leave wins. Super fine. We answer questions on Thursday's episodes. Lesley Logan 1:32  So this inspired me. So Sabrina Gonzalez Pasterski, at 14 she built an airplane in her garage. 14 years old, built an airplane. Okay, pretty amazing. At 16, she flew it. At 21 she graduated MIT with a perfect 5.0 GPA. Now she's solving mysteries that stumped Einstein. Stephen Hawking cited her in research before he died. Jeff Bezos tried to recruit her, and she said no. So we'll put the link to this whole story in the notes. And also, after I read this, I discovered that the Wright brothers had a sister who kicked some ass and they wouldn't be where they were without her. So just kind of amazing what women have done in that space. So essentially, she built this plane, then she learned how to fly it, then she applied to MIT, and they're like, you're not good enough. And so then she actually sent them a video of her flying her plane that she built, and she just did some incredible stuff in her time there. And also now she's studying really amazing theories and quantum gravity with, like, where, like, what about small things and gravity, and what about black holes and where do things end, and she's just, like, solving problems that, like, these people who are super famous for trying to have ever done. So really, really cool. Thank you, Sabrina for inspiring us all. And I just want to say, like, want to shout out, like the door was shut on her. She was told like you're not enough, and she didn't believe them. And I think that that's super important. I think all of us need reminders that just because someone says no doesn't mean that it's a no and that you're not enough. It sometimes means that you need to knock again and go, hold on, let me show you again, or it means you need to knock on a different door, but if you really believe in who you are and what you do, that is all you need. And I think it's really easy for us to look for external validation. Of course, we want external validation, but you got to have the internal stuff too, so you can fight for yourself when you need to. So way to go, Sabrina. Lesley Logan 2:18  All right, so your win is from eLevate grad from 5.0 and she also was on my retreat the year before in Cambodia. So she said last year, that was in 2024, I went on Lesley's retreat to Cambodia. During one of the workshops, it hit me how miserable I was. I was teaching at a company almost an hour away, teaching five plus days a week as a lead instructor and master trainer. I had no time for myself, and was lucky if I got Pilates in more than once a week. When I returned from Cambodia, stepped down as a lead instructor and gave up all of my shifts except one. This is the first step in making big changes. As I wrote in eLevate just after a few months after returning from Cambodia, once I started eLevate, I realized that I no longer believed in that company's Pilates training that I've been thinking about it for a while, and no longer wanted to teach it. I notified the corporate that I would not be returning as a trainer for them in the following year, but I needed to finish out my current class. I also started making time for me again. I was practicing Pilates regularly during this past year, I started working at two boutique studios, which are much closer to home. One is a classical studio. I've been building my classes and privates there. There's so much more freedom at both studios, and I can teach the way I want, with no rules. My current class of trainees has one week of training left, and I will be free of that commitment shortly. So congratulations, you're free. Yesterday, I gave my notice I'd be leaving this company completely in January. So we're one month out, way to go, and we'll be giving up that one last shift if I feel an incredible weight has been lifted and I'm ready to start the next chapter in 2026 I'm grateful to Lesley for opening my eyes and to the fact that I don't have to settle and don't need to work for a corporation that I don't believe in. I'm excited to see what 2026 brings, if you're still reading, thank you. I know this is long. Laura, this one is amazing. And also shout out to all the changes you've made. I'm so glad you came to Cambodia, because I think eLevate would have been a different experience had you not had that realization the months prior. And you guys can all come to Cambodia and have that experience that Laura has had. A lot of people have that, and we've had people come back multiple times, because it's kind of a nice little milestone to reflect on. So anyways, I just want to say, like, we all do this, right? We all get into a position that we believe in and we loved, and then over time, it no longer fits. Like a pair of jeans that you bought, they no longer fit. But then you're like, oh, but I've had these jeans forever, or these jeans cost so much, or, you know, like, maybe these jeans will fit again. And we try to convince ourselves to, like, stay fitting those jeans, instead of just going, you know, I could just buy a more comfortable pair of jeans, or I could just go seek out, or I could try something new on. And I'm just so I'm so fucking stoked for you. Laura. So yes, this one is long, but I love it, and I think many people will resonate with the win. There's so many wins in here, each milestone in there of you taking back more of your time and putting yourself out there to be in a new space. You know, those are humongous wins. So shout out to everyone who you know turned something down this week or let go of something this week. Those are wins. Lesley Logan 2:31  All right, so now for a win of mine. This is going to sound hilarious, but I think it's important to see that there's wins in everything. I started a commitment on Q4 of last year that I was going to learn how to, like, just blow dry my hair. I have a lot of hair. I definitely screwed up along the way as my hair grew out. I didn't like, learn how to keep up with that, and then it just got really long. And I like it really long, but I like pretty much it only looks good the day after I see my hairdresser, and then it doesn't do anything at all. And I was I told my hairdresser, I think it's time I learned how to use a blow dryer. And I'm not gonna say I'm great at it. And by the time you're hearing this, I probably have only out of the four months I've been trying, I don't blow dry my own hair one week of those four months because I get my hair done. So we're only at like, 12 attempts, but it's really fun to be a beginner at something and try something new and and even if it just gets my hair dry, you know in the winter that that's great too. So so I don't have to become a professional blow dryer person, but I definitely can get good-ish at blow drying my own hair, and that's my win. So see, wins can be a lot of amazing, easy things. Imagine you're probably like Lesley, I had that win when I was 12. Great. Did you celebrate it? Did you? Lesley Logan 2:39  All right, so your mantra for the weekend is, my future is bright. My future is bright. My future is bright. Yes, your future certainly is. You're amazing. Thank you so much. We have an interview for on Tuesday, a recap on Thursday, and another FYF on Friday. So send your wins is so I could shout you out. Have an amazing day, and happy, I guess, Galentines, how can I say, be it day, be it, be in times day. There you go. All right, go Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 7:41  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Being it till you see it isn't about pretending you're confident or pushing yourself harder than you can sustain. In this final episode of the self-love series, Lesley shares practical tools that make self-love doable instead of overwhelming. From simple breath practices and journaling prompts to boundaries, forgiveness, and celebrating everyday wins, this episode is all about choosing one small way to show up for yourself. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why self-love is not about faking it or overdoing it.How breath and music create an easy self-love practice.Journaling, mindfulness, and gratitude as tools to shift self-talk.Using boundaries and forgiveness as acts of self-respect.Celebrating wins and honoring your body to reinforce self-love.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsBook: Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It by Kamal Ravikant - https://a.co/d/04df4sfiEpisode 559: David Corbin - https://beitpod.com/ep559Episode 628: Frances Naudé - https://beitpod.com/ep628Episode 400: Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/gayhendricksEpisode 319: Nikole Mitchell - https://beitpod.com/ep319UCLA Mindfulness Education Center - https://www.uclahealth.org/uclamindfulThe Five Minute Journal - https://beitpod.com/5minutejournalBuy Yourself the F*cking Lilies by Tara Schuster - https://a.co/d/0e0IF322Self-Love Mantras - https://blog.gratefulness.me/mantras-for-self-love If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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It truly is knowing who you want to be and loving yourself enough to do the things that get you there. Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:55  All right. Welcome back Be It babe. How are you? Okay. So we are finishing our self love series for now. I mean, maybe we'll add on to it. And also, it's really crazy. Is in between recording one and two, I interviewed two amazing women who will come out at different times, but they were, they were validating how important the series is and just the words that they were giving. And so I know that the Be It pod is always giving tips on loving yourself and and, you know, getting to know yourself. But I'm hoping that this episode gives you some tools, some simple ones. I have some that you guys sent in. So thank you so much. And then just some things that to think about, right? And then we'll also do a burnout series. And they, they, they go hand in hand, and they go hand in hand with the habits series, right? So all this to say that being it till you see it is not about faking it, and it's also not about overdoing it. It truly is knowing who you want to be and loving yourself enough to do the things that get you there. And you're not going to like everything, right? It's going to it's not going to be easy if it's easy you'd already be there and then you have something else to want. So this is the tools episode. So if you didn't listen to the first one, please go back to the first one, because I think what the first one, what we talked about, was, what is self-love like? Why do we struggle with it? Why do we need it? And then what does that look like, right? So now we're in the tools, tools for loving yourself. So in preparation for this series, one of the one of the things that I actually read that I thought the whole series would be about, and it's just part of it. There's actually a book. It's called Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It.Lesley Logan 2:30  And the first half is a bunch of tools, and the second half is a journey of him falling back in love with himself. And that part is actually a really quick read, and it's beautiful, and it's like short snippets, and the vulnerability is really amazing, and the tools are really cool. So one of the tools in the book that I particularly liked and have used, are you ready? You will play a song that you like that makes you feel good. Okay? If you don't know that, here's a simple one. Go into whatever music app you use, hit instrumental music so that it has no words, okay? And then just hit play on one. Then you're gonna close your eyes and listen and for the length of the song, every time you inhale, you say, I love myself. And every time you exhale, you let something go. Inhale, I love myself. Exhale, let something go, right? Just let enough. You just let the air go inside, If your mind wanders, you just go, am I inhaling or exhaling? I'm inhaling. I love myself. I love me. I love what I do for me. I love who I am, right? That I really like because there's a lot of tools out there, and I might even say some that I'm like, okay, I think this could work for somebody, but it might not work for me, and that's fine, right? That's there's gonna be tools that don't work for me. Maybe that doesn't, but I actually really love that. Really love that one. Here's a couple others that I think are fabulous and might work for you, don't work for my ADHD frame, but I that one I love, that one is easy to do. I can do it while I'm driving, you know. So, all right, some other tools, so tools to foster self-love include mindfulness and meditation and journaling to process thoughts and practicing self-compassion by training yourself with kindness and other helpful practices or setting boundaries and practicing gratitude and celebrating accomplishments. We already talked about what self-love looks like, and self love looked like, having self-compassion and kindness and having boundaries. And so, of course, the tools include doing those things. But if they're hard for you, how do you do them? And also, like, I'm a big fan of, like, what am I supposed to journal? What am I doing anyways? And so, of course, you're you know, journals are there to help process your thoughts and emotions and protect your experiences and gain a better understanding of yourself. But like, what do you journal? So some of the past be a guest have mentioned a few different things of journaling. And so one guest, David Corbin, he said, just grab a piece of paper. Write a question at the top of it, close your eyes and meditate on that question. And with your eyes closed, write down stuff. Because there's also like, something about like, your brain will remember what you wrote down and what's important will be there. But sometimes just getting off the page, we've also had people who talk about, like, the morning pages, just like getting up and writing things down on a page. And not even worrying what it is. In our Tarot episode, we talked about, you know, like, you can draw a card and then have reflections questions for that card that day. So there are a million different ways, if you also just are, like, I need something better. Look just literally Google journal prompts for self-love. Okay, you'll get something. And then you can journal that you can't do it wrong. Now, I don't particularly like journaling on a computer, so I will say that might be something you might want to do in an actual journal. And I know you might have a reader handwriting I can't read mine, but I do think it's really helpful. I notice when I journal regularly, I get to the bottom of like, Oh, I'm in fear right now, you know, it's sometimes hard to self-reflect without being able to write down the things that are on there. Lesley Logan 5:45  Mindfulness and meditation. So I actually this, UCLA has a Mindfulness Institute, and they actually have classes on mindfulness and like, you can mindfully suck on a frozen grape, right? Like, mindfulness is that you can mindfully walk like you can go outside and just like I'm gonna take one step in front of the other. So mindfulness is really about being present. Meditation is like sitting down and like clearing your head as best you can and focus on your breath. And something I love about meditation experts is that you can, if you if your mind wanders, just go, okay, and now I'm back right? So there's a ton of different meditation practices out there. If you've read the book Breathe, there's some really great breath work meditations in there. And so I highly recommend, if you don't have a meditation or mindfulness practice, what I would suggest you do is, like, actually, kind of go on a journey of trying out ones that you would like. This is part of the self-compassion. This is part of the boundaries. This is part of the self-care. The self-love is like, love yourself enough to go, Okay, do I like sitting still for five minutes? Oh, do I prefer walking around the block without my phone, right? Do I prefer walking with one footstep in front of the other? Do I like a guided meditation? Do I need to hear someone's voice? Do I like a breathwork meditation? What kind of breath work meditation? Do I like box breathing? Or do I like, you know, Wim, Hof style, things like that. But if that is like, Oh, that'd be a great tool for me to practice my self-love. Then use the habits series to help you figure out a time to do that, and then try out different types of meditation till you find one that works for you. And then I love that self-compassion is going to come next, because you can't have the compassion for yourself if you don't find that meditation practice on day one, right? So it's all self-compassion is basically just like treating yourself the way you treat others. And you know, here's the thing, if we are having people who are like you're you're treating wonderfully, and they're treating like crap, it's because you're treating you like crap and you're like you're getting friendships that are like that, because that feels comfortable to you. So really have some self-compassion talk to have the same kindness and love for yourself as you do with other people. And the same thing when someone else has a mistake or makes it struggling with something like with something like notice how you treat them, and how do you treat yourself, and and you can't do all these things at once, my love, so pick one of these to work on at a time. Lesley Logan 7:50  Positive affirmations. So some people like this, we had Nikole Mitchell, she had a lot of affirmations on Post-Its around her house, and she would take them down when people came over because she didn't want people to know what was going on. But I love having, like, have positive affirmation. There's apps out there that throughout the day will, like, even send you a positive affirmation. Like, have that if that's what you need, especially if you're not so good at noticing the things you are doing wonderfully in this you know, I noticed a lot of people have a hard time sending me wins, right? Lesley Logan 8:18  A gratitude practice. So this one is interesting. Some people in the coaching world love a gratitude practice. Some people hate it. There's like, The Five Minute Journal that's really good about this. The tulip book I was listening to, like,Buy Yourself the Fucking Tulips. Talks about writing about 10 things she likes every day. Some people think that, like, this is stupid. Your gratitude practice doesn't work. Eventually you, like, just keep repeating things. I would say at that point, then you'd move on to a new practice. But if you don't have a gratitude practice, here's a thing about gratitude. My therapist told me, your gratitude and judgment can't live in the same space, right? So if you are struggling to have self-compassion, then I think a gratitude practice is a great way to get that as a tool under your tool belt of self-love. If you're judging yourself, I want you to write down three things. Say three things, I'm grateful for this I'm grateful, like, I'm grateful that I washed my hair today. Like, I think it could be really good. This one's gonna be harder, but I do think it's important. Forgiveness, giving yourself permission to forgive you of past mistakes. So that might include, like, having a moment of grief, or some time you might come up with this in journaling, but like a lot of times, people keep things in their life, or do things in their life that they know are harmful to them longer than they want, and it's hard to let those things go. So sometimes they keep them around because, you know, it's easier to do that, but it's bad, and then we don't, because if we get rid of it, then we have to face this. Oh, my God, I I can't believe I let myself have that in my life for so long, and that's where forgiveness comes in. Self-love is forgiving yourself, right? Maybe your general practice is like, what do I need to forgive myself about? Right? So that you can use these tools together. And then limit self-criticism, and this is where I would encourage you to get a friend involved, and when you are being self-deprecating, which Gay Hendricks, who's episode 400 would say, in his book, The Big Leap, that self-deprecation is actually just part of you pulling like a bit as an upper limit problem, right? But if you are judging yourself or being hard on yourself and it's around people, then I need you to have someone in your life who's gonna go, okay, that's not helpful. We did this in Cambodia, like anytime someone apologize, I told this in another episode, not helpful, right? Not helpful until you can get to the point where you're going not helpful to yourself, right? It can take a village to get unravel the habits we have, right? So behavioral lifestyle tools that would be setting boundaries, you might have to actually just start saying no to everything until you can and then say yes later, because, like most, for the most part, you can say no to a lot of things and then change your mind. And so maybe it's that you have to come up with something in your notes, it's something that I had to do for a long time. Was like, in my notes, I had, like, three different ways to say no, that I could just copy and paste. Oh, it's amazing. I need to check my calendar. Oh, I think we have something going on that night. Let me, for right now it's a no, but I'll check, and if I can change I'll get back to you. Oh, my God, thank you for thinking of me, I feel so honored. I need to take a moment to take a look at my calendar and see if I can do that. Right? Though, all of those were easy for me to pretty much plug and play into almost any invitation anywhere. And then I could get like, the urgency and need for me to be responsive to people. I could solve that. But then it gave me it bought me some time to, Do I really want to go to that thing? Do I want to spend time with those people? Right? No, is a complete sentence, by the way, and so, but it can feel hard, especially if you're not used to it. And the other thing is, like, when you are setting boundaries, you might have to tell people hey, like we had Shari Teigman on the on the podcast coming up, and it's possible it already came out, might come out after this. But this, but I really encourage you to listen to that episode if you haven't, if it's been already out, and if you haven't, then listen to it maybe a couple of times. But she gives some great tips about how to tell people. You know, Hey, before, I was okay with this, and I'm not now, and so it is okay to have been okay with something before and not now, and it might mean addressing that with people who it's not now for, but it's not an attack on them, and it's not that they're an asshole. It's just that you no longer are able to be available in that way, right? And then the thing is, when we set boundaries, we just have to enforce them, and it's not easy. But again, write down different ways. Like, okay, if you know someone's going to break a boundary or asked to do something at a different time that you didn't want them to do, have a pre written thing out. Ask the AI to help you. Hey, my friend wants to change this thing. I don't want to be up at that time. Like, how can I write this thing? It will write it for you. Copy and paste it right until you can figure out how to say, no. You know, oftentimes people don't care. We overthink things. Oh my gosh. I watched this, like, really funny reel where, like, was based on, like, horoscope signs. And like, this one guy was, like, these three signs, and the person was like, you know, I thought you were gonna come over. And then he's like, I you thought I was gonna come over? Like, he's reacting to it as a like, Aquarian, Scorpio, whatever another person is, like, three other things, and it's just like, come on over. Like, it was just really, I wish I'm not doing a great job explaining it, but like most people, we're reading it with this negative, oh my God. I'm gonna let them down when I send this, and they're going, they're, you know, it's like, Oh, no big deal, right? Not a big deal. It's okay, yeah, and it's possible that in setting boundaries, you do lose some relationships in that way. And I would just say, like it probably wasn't the most healthy relationship for you in the first place, because if loving yourself means they can't be in your life, then then it's possible it's just a relationship out to expire, right? Or, if you really want the relationship to stay, you will definitely want to listen to Barb Betts episode about how to create a relationship in a way that works with them, right, that also works with you, which is like, what else can you relate on if this thing that you have a boundary on is no longer relatable? Yeah? Lesley Logan 13:56  Self-care routines. You know, a big fan of the self-care routine, but you need to have self-care routines. And self-care routines do need to be a daily, weekly thing. Self-care is not a reward. Self-care is a need. It's a need. All right? This one, of course, I love. This tool is amazing. Celebrate achievements. You guys need to email me your achievements in the beitpod.com/questions and achievements can be I got out of bed today. Achievements can be I finally signed up for that class I've been wanting to go to. Achievements can be, like, I tried a new hobby. They can be I told a friend, no. There's so many things. They can also be big, like I got a promotion. There are so many different types of achievements, but you have to celebrate them. It's part of self-love. If you're never celebrating the things you did do, it's going to start to feel like everything you do all these things for all these people, and there's like, what's the point? Well, the point is like celebrating the moments in between the things that like, oh, wow, look what I did, right? You got to celebrate that. Lesley Logan 14:52  Spending time alone. Oh, my God, this is not a problem for me. I love this. But self love is also like taking time to get to know yourself and be alone with yourself. Often, and if you have a hard time with that, I highly recommend like figuring out what's going on. You don't have to be an introvert. You can still get energy from people, but being able to be alone with yourself is a sign you've got a lot of self-love. You love being with you. Lesley Logan 15:15  Surround yourself with positivity. So this is it's possible, like I went through a time in 2020 where, like, people were just, oh, we all did, right? And people were just being really negative, and the calls were just often really negative. And I just said, like, you know, right now I'm available to be a friend on these topics, but not that one. And that pissed some people off, and I haven't talked to them, and I'm sad about that, like that, I don't take that lightly at all. But also, I needed a different way of a friendship at that time, and that is okay, and I'm allowed to need that, and they are allowed to have needed a friend who needed to bitch with them, and that's okay, right? But loving yourself is truly making sure that you are around people who not just support you but uplift you and like you feel good after you leave, right? If you're around people that it just feels like after you leave, you feel like the energy sucked out. It's time to have some self-love and put some boundaries in place. Yeah? And then clear your space. So this is not an action item for any of you who use clearing your space as a reason why you do not take care of yourself. But if you're like Lesley, I do all these things and I still don't feel like I have it, maybe there is too much clutter and it's affecting your brain, being able to see all the possibilities that you're doing and have love for yourself. There's also some suggestions for self-love that having some goal oriented tools, so like making sure you're setting realistic goals as a part of your self-love. I see a lot of people that we coach set some unrealistic goals, then not hit those goals and then judge themself. So it might be time to have some realistic goals. And that doesn't mean you lower your standards, or you lower your ability to dream, but maybe it's just about making like smaller stepping stones of a major goal so that you can work towards actually accomplishing that, and then you have to celebrate that you did it, right? Part of self-love is just also knowing what your strengths are. I'm very clear on what my strengths are and are not, and loving myself means saying no to things that are I know I'm going to do a terrible job. I'm going to feel bad about how you did it. Yes, that means I have to hire people, and I have to ask for help, and I have to ask for support, but I can lean so much into my strengths, and I have more energy after the afterwards because of it. So we've had several guests on this, on the Be It Pod who who do strength testing. And I really, highly, highly recommend checking out the couple guests we've had on that and just going through and getting help on identify what your strengths are, right, and then embracing creativity. So you know that could be hobbies, that could be just an outlet you do. It could just be like, maybe you go take an artist class, maybe go take a stone carving class. Like, find something. But finding some way to be creative is often a really great way to not just practice compassion and kindness, but also to get to know yourself. You know, can be kind of meditative, and we have to be mindful in a creative space. Lesley Logan 18:03  So the other things I will just say is we have a couple more categories that I want to explore, emotional, mental self-love, and that is going to include the boundaries and the self-compassion and the forgiving yourself and then challenging negative talk and spending time reflecting. And this one is we haven't talked about this yet, not comparing. You know, they say comparison is the thief of joy. Comparison is okay if it means that you're able to see what you want and you don't want in your life, but then you have to be curious, right? So I love that the emotional self and mental self love tools are very similar to all the other types of tools we've had, because sometimes we can have self-love in some areas and not in other areas. And so hopefully that helps you. You know, self-love is also taking care of the physical body that you have, and that is going to be the movement rituals you have and the movement practices you have, and but also self-love is honoring your body. Now, I just was talking with this girl that I used to teach, and she was asking questions, and I was like, you know, I'm so grateful that people have discovered these studies that show that as women, if we honor our cycles and we move within them, we can be stronger, faster, better, right? And so listening to your body is self-love. So sometimes I hear people are hard on themselves for not going and going for a run or not going and lifting as hard that week because they needed to do more yoga, that's listening to your body you are practicing self-love. Don't be so hard on yourself, right? So do you see how like we tend to do something as self-love, and then we tend to be harsh to ourselves, which negates the self-love that we did. So honoring your body, and then I would celebrate that as an achievement. And then something else you can think about is, and that's this really cool thing that I discovered, if you were truly struggling with, like, how do I love myself? You know, there's the idea of, like, how do you like to give love? Do you like to give loves and word of affirmations? Do you like to give love in the form of physical gifts? Do you like to give love in the form of touch or quality time or acts of service, you know, like the five love languages, and I know those are debunked a bit in a bit, but also, like they're applicable, right? Instead of thinking about like partnering up with people, think of like, how do you like to give love and then give yourself that in return? So if you love to tell people things about that fall into words of affirmation, then it's time for you to do words of affirmation towards you. If you love to give people physical gifts, then give yourself some physical gifts. If you love touch, then go get yourself a massage, right? Like if you love quality time, spend some quality time with yourself. If you love to do things for people, do things for you. So try that out in your effort to make self-love part of your daily life. So I think it's just there's some really great things to that. If you listen to me on that and you're like, I need some more ideas. Definitely reach out to Be It Pod. I can help you with that. I've got some I got some extra tools under here, but I just wanted I don't want to overwhelm you with tools. I feel like that is, is the thing that these the listeners that I tend to attract, like, give me everything. I'm going to try 17 things at once. I just want you to try, like, one thing at a time, because I want self-love to be a thing that you can be it till you see, right? Lesley Logan 21:04  But I will put this in the show notes. There are a bunch of mantras. I have 58 mantras here for self-love, and I'm going to make sure my team has it for the show notes. And here's a few of them that just stood out to me as I read through. I deserve love just as I am. I'm a beacon of self-love. I choose to see the beauty within me. Every cell in my body is infused with love. I'm worthy of sel- care and self-love. I believe in myself fully. I deserve to be happy. And that's that's hopefully what this does, because, like, look, I love doing all the interviews, but I also think that information without integration is constipation. That's what I had a coach say to me once, so all the tools in the world, all the tips and advice don't work if you don't first love you, right? They just become more things. Oh, I promised you guys. I promised you guys some tools from you guys. So these are real people who have real tools for self-love, okay? Pilates, education and gratitude towards myself, not just the universe, for the good things I made happen. Brook Siler, Pilates, Self-love tools, equal, baths, learning new skills. She's doing tennis, not escaping stress with alcohol. Beautiful. And then Pilates Physio Essay, that's Sonia. Tools, booking in sessions that are not allowed to be moved, whether it's on my own workout or paid, it's in. Heidi Malone said, I schedule at least one evening a week to relax after work I read or I watch a comfort show. These are beautiful, beautiful. So do you see how those reflect all the different tools that were suggested? The time with the self, the movement, the creativity, right, the gratitude practice, celebrating achievements, self-care movement, you are so loved by so many people. And my hope from these two episodes is that you truly find love for yourself. And if you haven't already, send in other ideas and wins. Send in the wins, but also send in your other tools, and we'll put them in another show. Thank you so much. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 23:28  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. 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In this episode, Lesley breaks down self-love beyond surface-level self-care and explains why it's foundational to confidence, boundaries, resilience, and healthy relationships. She explores why self-love is often misunderstood, why it can feel so hard to practice, and how societal expectations shape the way women treat themselves. This conversation sets the foundation for a two-part series, with practical tools and practices coming in the next episode. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:What self-love actually means beyond self-care and affirmations.How self-love differs from narcissism and self-interest.The importance of self-love in building confidence and resilience.How self-love strengthens confidence through self-commitment.The impact of societal pressure and past experiences on self-love.Episode References/Links:Episode 153: Tanya Dalton - https://beitpod.com/ep153Learning To Love Yourself by Gay Hendricks - https://a.co/d/9r14YqcEpisode 628: Frances Naudé - https://beitpod.com/ep628Episode 610: Amy Ledin - https://beitpod.com/ep610What Happened to You? by Oprah Winfrey & Bruce D. 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What I interpret that as we can't be it till we see it and just sort of like ourselves, like what I don't want you to do is not have that self-love that's like true self-love. Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:03  Hey, Be It babe, how are you? Oh my gosh. Okay, so we're doing a two episode series on self-love and a two episode series on burnout, and these kind of came out of doing this series on the habits. And, you know, we've had so many amazing guests on the pod, and it made me think of like they talk about how you have to love yourself, like, I can't even tell you how I probably should have looked it up. How many episodes we have had guests tell us, like, love yourself. Like, you have to have, like, love for yourself. And, like, it got me thinking, like, you know? And you're like, yeah, yeah. Like, you think you know what that means. And then you're like, wait, what does it mean? Like, what? What is self-love, you know? And is it important? And what if we don't do it? And how is it different than burnout, and how is it different than a habit, and how is it different than, like, all these other things. And so I kind of wanted to do just like, a whole episode on, like, what is self-love? Why do we struggle with it? Why do we need it? It's important, right? So we're going to just like, kind of dive in. And if you think I know it already, sure, you can skip this episode and go the next one, which is going to be the tools and the tips and the tricks and the mantras, but I hope we can have, like, a conversation. I mean, obviously you're not here, but like, you can talk in the car together, of like, what, what does this mean? And maybe you have different interpretations, right? Also, in the next episode, I'll share some of the ones that you guys have sent about that with here. I think you guys sent some for self-love and some that kind of go with burnout. And so I'm excited about it. Lesley Logan 2:20  Okay, so first of all, here is the dry like what the professionals psychology, things like that have to say. Self-love is a state of appreciation for oneself that involves prioritizing your physical, psychological and spiritual wellbeing with the same kindness and compassion you would offer a loved one, I would also say you'd offer anyone, because I see a lot of people offer strangers more of these things than they do themselves. It includes accepting yourself blahs and all setting healthy boundaries, practicing self-care and treating yourself with respect. This is not the same as narcissism, which involves excessive self-interest, but rather a fundamental regard of your own happiness and worth. And I think, like, if we could just, like, leave that right there. You know, like, there's so many things in that it's like, oh, that's what self, like, it's not the same as like, I mean, yes, there are some tools I'll share that like, about loving yourself, like I love myself, but like, actually, these are the ways you can be in self-love. You can be prioritizing your physical, psychological, spiritual well being with the same kindness and passion you would offer a loved one. Another way of saying this that I found on the line was be the adult you always needed to yourself. Tell yourself the words the younger version of you always needed to hear. And that might mean you have to go learn about, like, reparenting right there. And that would be like a therapist, right? So hopefully, like, if any of these things spark your interest, like you are working with a professional therapist of some kind in that way, but like, especially if it involves, like, the reparenting of yourself, and I think a lot of us have to go through that. And by the way, I know a lot of moms are listening, and including mine, like, it's not that you didn't do a great job. You did the best you could, some people, right? And also, there's still things that happen in our lives outside of what our parents did or didn't do that, like are part of what we brought up to ourselves as an adult. And there's stories that we tell ourselves, and those all affect how we treat ourselves, psychologically, physically, spiritually, right? Okay, so just to make sure we are saying things in the same way, same thing in different ways, so that if you have a different way of viewing these words, you get an education around self-love today, here's another thing. So this means self-love can include self-acceptance, so recognizing accepting both your strengths and your weakness without harsh self-criticism. And I think this is the hardest for me, so I'll just give anecdotes to each of these, because I think that at least I like that when people do it. So I think it's easy for us to accept the good parts about ourselves, but then we're really harsh about the not so great parts, and again, not that you like don't try to better what those are. But I think a lot of people who are attracted to the show because I do the same thing, like, we like attract alike is we are then constantly trying to better the things that we don't like about ourselves. Great. Do that, and also don't be harsh, right? There's a difference between a harsh self-criticism and an awareness of things that could be better, but still loving yourself despite of or in spite of that, right? Self-compassion. Self-love is self-compassion. Treating yourself with kindness, especially during difficult times. I definitely struggle with compassion for myself when I kind of do the thing I know I shouldn't have done at the time, and then, you know, you're like, I shouldn't procrastinate right now, and then you do and then, like, everything blows up in your face. I will go into a harsh criticism. I will have a lack of self-compassion. All of that affects the self-love. And when you don't love yourself, it makes it really difficult for you to show up as the highest version of yourself, that's for sure. And it also it makes it really hard for us to accept love and support from others. It's almost hard for us to receive compassion for other people, because we're not giving it to ourselves, and so we don't even recognize compassion when it comes from someone else, right? Self-care is self-love. Actively taking care of your physical, emotional, mental health through actions like eating well, exercising, gain enough rest, and engage in activities you enjoy. And by the way, when it's when I say, whenever you hear me say, eating well or healthy, I think you need to understand like fueling yourself appropriately, right? What allows you to have the best sleep of your life? What allows you to do the movement practice you like, what allows you to do the life you want to live? So there's no such thing as good or bad food or good or bad bodies, right? So, but what are the things that make you feel well? Are you eating foods that you know are going to make you feel like crap? For example, I love Kettle Corn. I really love Kettle Corn, and I can have a handful of Kettle Corn, no problem. But I can't stop with a handful of Kettle Corn most of the time. And so when I am kind of oftentimes being a little too in my head, being a little hard on myself, like having a stressful day, of course, I had to have more Kettle Corn, because why not just really make the already hard day I'm having even harder. And when I have half a bag of Kettle Corn, I feel like my stomach hurts. I have like my skin crawls, and I have the worst night's sleep, right? Well, in doing that, I am not giving myself the self-care that I need, because I'm now affecting tonight's sleep, which means I am not loving myself for the whole day and night, which is going to affect tomorrow, right? So getting enough rest is self-care. That is self-love. And I get really I in researching this, I was really excited, because I find myself, when I lead my retreats, or I lead some of these workshops that I do, like talking to people about, like, why it's so important that they go for a walk in the morning, if that's what they want to do, they want to walk in the morning. Why is it so important? Why is it so important they do Pilates? Because doing activities that help you sleep well, move well, be pain free, are all an act of self-love, and every time I see people not doing it in modernist oftentimes for others, what I'm seeing in the room is like a lack of self-love, and it's limiting how much you can love others. I'm just gonna say it, right? Lesley Logan 8:22  Okay. Boundary setting. So knowing your limits and saying no when necessary to protect your well being like setting boundaries and upholding those boundaries is self-love. We had a great episode about boundaries with Tanya Dalton. I still really love and recommend that episode. It's so, so good. And what I will say is I know that I come across as someone who is like the strictest of boundaries. I'm gonna tell you right now, I still feel bad when I have to uphold those boundaries, but I know I have to uphold the boundaries because I love myself so much. I know I cannot. I cannot go beyond my limits and still be the person I need to be tomorrow for all the people, right? I will let more people down tomorrow if I let go of my boundaries today, right? All right. Self-respect is self-love. Hvonoring your needs and not sacrificing your well being to please others. Self-respect is self-love. And I I think like we can all nod along and then go, ooh, am I respecting myself? And I will say, the older I get, the easier self-respect is for me to do. The younger I was, the harder it was, right? Because there's like, things that you're like, trying to prove, and you don't want to be liked, and there's all these different things. And so I would just say, like, you know, please explore self-respect with yourself, because if you don't have that, that's like your boundary setting, your self-care, your compassion, your acceptance, I think, is all going to fall under, like the actions you take to respect yourself and then positive self-talk, but consciously replacing negative self-talk with more positive and supportive affirmations. And by the way, if you listen to habit series, it's really hard to do. It's really hard to replace the negative self-talk with positive words, because you have to first, then be aware of the negative self-talk, and you have to, like, get quicker at catching it. So it might take you a whole day right now to catch yourself being an ass to yourself. And then as you are like, okay, I want to have a better, positive self-talk, self-respect, self-compassion, self-care. So that's acceptance, blah, blah, blah. So then maybe you take some of the tools that we're doing, and all of a sudden you realize, whoa, I caught myself talking negatively to myself in half a day. Well, most people are gonna get mad at themselves it took half a day. What you have to do is actually celebrate that it only took half a day, and it can get better. Then it's gonna take you three hours, and then it's gonna take you an hour, and this can take you 30 minutes, and take you three minutes, and it's gonna take you three seconds, that can take years. So give yourself the space and grace and have some positive self-talk and find ways to replace negative things, or maybe tell a friend, like, if you hear me talking about it myself, I need you to do something. Lesley Logan 10:43  In Cambodia, we have a lot of girls who are apologizing all the time. So as soon as anyone said, I'm sorry, we'd also scream, not helpful, not helpful. You know, and it was, it became something we laughed about. It was so funny, we actually realized, like, wow, a lot of times when I'm saying I'm sorry, I really mean, excuse me, right? And that's a better way to replace it. Okay, so why does this matter? Like, why is it important to have any self-love? So what the therapists and psychologists and brain people are saying is, it is a foundation for a happy and fulfilled life, right?Lesley Logan 11:14  So what I interpret that is we can't be it till we see it and just sort of like ourselves. Like, what I don't want you to do is not have that self-love, that's like true self-love, and then envision a woman who you think is going to be the thing you should be being it until you see and you go and be it till you see it, but she also doesn't love herself. Like, that'd mean you get all the destination, and you didn't, you didn't make sure it was like, you know what I mean? Like you just become more of something else, but you're not in love with yourself along the way. And so I definitely want to make sure that as you be it till you see it, part of that is loving yourself like how and maybe that's your work this year is like, I'm gonna be it till I see it in self-love, right? Maybe it's not just like a whole person. Maybe it's an area. Lesley Logan 11:57  Self-love increases self-confidence, self-worth and resilience. And I was like, oh, that's so of course, like, yes, I believe that confidence comes from keeping the commitments you said you would to yourself, okay? It's very easy for a lot of you to keep commitments to other people. So I was very specific, keeping the commitments to yourself that you said you would. That is where self-confidence comes from. But to do that, you have to have all these different areas of self-compassion, self-care, self-love, boundaries, right, self-respect. So when you have self-love, it increases your self-confidence, your self-worth and resilience. And I was like, yes, oh my gosh, that is such an easier way of getting towards having self-confidence, right? It's loving yourself. It leads to healthy relationships with others. You know, we often attract people who mirror a lot about how we feel about ourselves. And like, oh my God, isn't it so embarrassing to, like, look back at the boyfriends you have when you're younger? You're like, what were you thinking? But also, if you think about, like, wow, that's the amount of love I was willing to give myself from myself. So of course, that's what I was willing to accept from somebody else you know. And so if you are in some ways trying to be it till you see it in having a loving, wonderful relationship, I would definitely do some inventory and some self-reflection around what is going on with your self-love. And then another thing of why it's so important is a lack of self-love can contribute to feelings of inadequacy, anxiety, depression and burnout. We're gonna have a series on burnout. So of course, this is going to have an overlap with that.Lesley Logan 13:23  But, you know, I have always said, like, burnout happens when, in the Pilates industry, it happens a lot when people are under-charging and over, you know, working and, yeah, they did that because they have a lack of self-love. Because if you had self-love, you would be charging your worth and keeping your boundaries. Right? Like, a lack of self-love can contribute to feeling of inadequacy. And so like, with all the people with self, imposter syndrome, and I know there's people saying imposter syndrome is, like, made up, but also, like, sure, maybe it is. And also, there's a ton of people who feel inadequate, have anxiety, which is basically fear, okay? Gay Hendricks, in his book says anxiety and fear are the same thing. And depression, well, of course, I mean, I think you can love yourself and still have a low day, so I'm not going to say you won't ever be depressed, but it is going to contribute to those feelings. And so I do wonder, like, if the more we have some self-respect, self-compassion, have positive self-talk, how that is going to improve our feelings of around us, like, does it actually mean that your imposter syndrome just becomes less and less and maybe you only feel it when you're brand new at something? I believe that's it. That's why self I think self-love is even more important than I thought when we started doing the series. Like, I was like, oh yeah, of course, we have to have self-love. Let's figure out how to help people do that. And then I'm like, oh my God, this is so the most important fucking thing we can all be doing. Lesley Logan 14:41  Okay. So what can self-love look like? So some of this stuff is going to sound redundant, but again, I'm saying it all because I think we need to hear the same things in different ways. So some of you might be like, oh, got it. I gotta work on my boundaries. I gotta work on my self-talk. Gone, done. You don't need any more. And some of us are like, okay, I need all these things. But what does it look like? And this is where I am always like, okay, tell me the how. I got it. I'm in. I love it all. I co-sign. Tell me how, right. I'm a how girl. So what does self-love mean to you, and what does it look like? So it can mean talking to and about yourself with love. So, like, one of the things you could do is like, notice this week how you talk about yourself. Are you talking about all the things you messed up when you tell a friend about how the day went? Are you talking about how you, like, did something really amazing, right? Talking to and about yourself with love. I walk around this house and I like, do different things, like, oh my God, wow, I just connected that to that I'm so amazing. Like, I get really pleased with myself when, like, I had to move my Reformer the other day without Brad and I took the carriage out, stood inside the frame, squatted down, like I was doing a little like deadlift, and then, like, move the frame and put the thing out. I'm like, so strong. I'm so glad I could be independent. Like that, that is an act of self love, that kind of talk, right? So you, these are, like, there's little things you can do that in every single day, little ways you can do that in every single day. Lesley Logan 16:01  Prioritizing yourself. That self-love looks like prioritizing yourself. Self-love looks like giving yourself a break from self-judgment. So maybe you start to notice you're judging yourself, and you're like, I gotta replace it with positive words. What if you just didn't? What if you just stopped just to go, okay, I'm gonna set a timer for 15 minutes and go do something else, think of something else, like, take a break from the judgment. Okay, maybe it means getting rid of mirrors for a bit. Or, you know, things like, if that, where in your life are you actually judging yourself the most? How can you like? Is there a way you can take a pause from that project? Is there a way that you can set yourself up for success? You're actually like, get like, you can actually give yourself a break from the self-judgment. Self-love can look like trusting yourself, trusting yourself. I think a lot of us get really excited about a decision we make, and then we ask other people how they feel about that, and then we change our decision based on others. And look, I change my decisions a lot based on input from others when I'm like working on a project with the team, whatever. But like, that's not what I'm talking about. Yes, if someone gives you better information, you should bring that in and but also, if you know that you need to sleep for seven hours, and other people are like, oh, I can't believe you only need to sleep for seven hours, trusting yourself is way better than going, hmm, I guess I'm wrong. Maybe. I mean, they said I should sleep for eight hours. If you know, what is it you need. Gotta trust yourself, right? Like, that's some of the best things you can do. I found, like, you know, Brad and I've been like, advocating for our health a lot lately. And one of the things I've noticed that when I talk to my doctors in a way that has I'm advocating myself. I have the paperwork to say, like, when I sleep this many hours a night, I feel like X, Y and Z in the morning. And when I sleep for this many hours a night, I feel like this. And when I do blah, blah, blah, I feel like this. When I do this, when I talk like that, they don't doubt me. They actually go, okay, so what I'm hearing is blank, and what that sounds like is when you do X, Y and Z. So because I'm trusting myself, I'm not going, you know, I mean, when I sleep this many hours, I feel the best when I sleep this many hours, I don't like, I'm not doubting myself, I'm trusting myself. And then, therefore, my doctor and I can work as a team together. And so what I'm saying is, like, oftentimes we don't give off that we trust ourselves. And so other people feel like, Oh, you're asking a question you want me to put in. You want me to like, I'm going to give you some suggestions. And then that doesn't help with the trust, right? Self-love looks like being true to yourself, being true to yourself. And, you know, that goes, that goes hand in hand with one thing we're gonna talk about in a second. So I'll tell that's right when I get to that one. But I just want to say, like, being true to yourself. So if you don't, if you don't know how to be true to yourself, I really need you to take some time. Frances Naudé's episode is around the same one dropping, and she talks a lot about how, like, you have to live at your highest self. And she has some tips on like, how do you be true to yourself? How do you trust yourself? Being nice to yourself is a way to look at self-love. So if you have self-love, you are nice to yourself. You're wondering what self-love looks like, be nice to yourself. What do you if you know you need to get up and go get a glass of water, go do that. That is being nice to yourself, that is listening to yourself, is trusting yourself, right? I used to like, okay, so when I was teaching Pilates, I would go to the bathroom between every single client. Now that I work at a desk most of the time, I have found myself falling into that ADHD thing where I just keep working until like, oh my God, like, I finally have earned the right to go to the bathroom. And someone like voted me and going, ADHD, ladies, you don't need to earn the right to go to the bathroom. Just go to the bathroom. Being nice to yourself is going to the bathroom. It's just like getting up, hitting pause, and that is self-love. That is self-love. Okay, so do you see how, like, all of a sudden, self love becomes so much easier? Yes, some of these things are harder to do, break, taking a break from self-judgment, especially if you've been doing it for your whole life. But you can also just simply be nice to yourself, and that could kick off the self-love ball and domino. Lesley Logan 20:00  All right, setting healthy boundaries. So, at the be true to yourself. One of the things I know about me is I do need time alone. And we had my in-laws came to visit. Was so much fun, but also, like with them here, it meant that I didn't have a lot of time by myself, and so I didn't talk to any of my friends or other family members during that time, not because I didn't want to, but because I knew that I needed the times I could have alone, I needed them alone. Being true to myself was making sure I had time as an introvert to recharge and refuel, and it meant I needed to keep my boundaries up and not give in to oh my God, I feel so bad. I haven't talked to that person. Of course I feel bad. I'm still gonna feel bad, but also I'm not. I can't feel bad and tired and shitty. So loving myself, being true to myself, understanding like, yes, it is. I'm sure some people think it's weird and annoying. I need to have so much time by myself, but I need to do that so I can be there for others, and setting healthy boundaries around that is important. We also, then had a friend who needed to use our guest bedroom 48 hours later. And of course I wanted to help go, yeah, stay as long as you want. No, we just had too many in our, we had two people in our house for 10 days. We have people coming to our house next week. I can't do that, so here's what I can do. And do you want to know something? They're okay with it. They're totally fine with it. They didn't go, oh, what a bitch, like, what a bitch. No, because they, too, have healthy boundaries because they love themselves. So self-love is setting healthy boundaries and keeping them. Lesley Logan 21:24  Forgiving yourself when you aren't being true or nice to yourself. So I love that this is like at the end, because it's like, oh my God, I, like, by time you hear all this, you'd be like, well, here's all the different ways I didn't love myself today. So, forgive yourself, and that is an act of self-love for you today, and you'll just do better the next time, right? So, and I think that this is a really good, like, maybe thing to write down or think about it, just remember that self-love isn't just about loving the easy parts of ourselves. It means loving every single part of ourselves. So even the inner critic, like, in fact, maybe the inner critic just needs to be loved a little bit, right? So, why is it so hard? Why is it so hard to love ourselves? I feel like, oh my God, it's actually just like Lesley just gave out so many different ways I could love myself and it should be so easy. Like, why is it so hard? So this is, well, the patriarchy, we're just gonna say. But seriously, women often struggle with self-love due to societal expectations to prioritize others. Perfectionism is another reason why we have a struggle with self-love and being bombarded with unrealistic beauty and life standards. So it is hard to love ourselves when every single time you look in the magazines and on TV and all this, you're being shown what the standard for beauty and being a wonderful woman is, and you feel like you aren't able to match and meet those so of course, it's hard. You won't. It's like, how you have to like, I mean, if the resiliency you have to have to like, see those people and go, I don't need to look like them, and I'm still amazing. That takes time. So if you are struggling with comparing yourself to what society says is what we're should be living up to, you are not alone. It takes a long time it and what I would say is, like, go back to the things that we did, and what is something easy you can do. Because as you start to build your self love muscle, becomes easier to not fall for the expectations of society, which, by the way, isn't going to be there for you, right? Even if you reach whatever they think the bar is, they're gonna move the bar anyways. So past negative experiences make it hard to love ourselves, right, such as criticism, trauma, feeling undervalued, these things can also deeply impact self-worth. Lesley Logan 23:22  So like, let's be real. Who, the stories that you got from people who were around you in your life at pivotal times, and the experiences you had, those things can affect you, especially if you had a family member or friend who told you you weren't beautiful, you weren't lovable, you weren't pretty. If you heard that and then something like, hey, I feel that, and I really do hope that you are not just doing self-reflection, but actively seeking someone who can help you, because you are so worthy of self-love, and as you've already learned, self-love is so important when it comes to all the other things you want to have in your life, it'd be really hard to have an amazing, wonderful partner who loves you if you don't love yourself, because it's gonna be hard for you to feel and believe that love is true. I'm not saying you can't attract it or that you don't have that. I'm saying like it's just going to be hard for you to believe that it's real and true. Right now I want you to have that, okay? Additionally, cultural conditioning can teach women to be quiet, put others first, and feel guilty for practicing self-care, making self-love seem selfish or out of reach. And I will say that this last part is really important to me. As a woman business owner who serves female mostly, and a few good men clients in our membership, it's online. Women will cancel the membership because of all the demands on them that they feel from others, and they have a hard time putting themselves first because they feel selfish or indulgent or that, you know, I just like, you know, I can't do all of it, so if that's why I do none of it, you know, or I'm only using five minutes at a time, so I should cancel this. The male members never do that. That's not why they quit. They quit because, like, oh, I'm taking three months off for. Surgery, that's when they quit. So I say that because, ladies, we have to take the perfectionism off the table. Love ourselves, be proud of the few minutes we do do and then prioritize those. It is essential. And if you didn't listen to the episode with Amy Ledin, the most recent one we had in December, go listen to that. She's a mom of five with cancer, and she's kicking ass, and she prioritizes her movement. And, you know, I'm not saying that you have to do everything like she does, but I want you to have an example of people can be busy, can have hard lives, and still can love themselves enough to put themselves first, right? Lesley Logan 25:35  All right. So the other things, obviously, we have societal, cultural pressures. So there's prioritizing others. Women are often socialized to be caregivers. Definitely have to be the caregivers. They're often because we are still paid less. They're often the ones that need to leave the workplace, if that's what's needed in a family, someone gets sick. We obviously know we have a lot of women who listen to the show, who are in the sandwich generation, and so it's really, it really does mean that you put other people first, and over time, that means maybe not loving yourself as much as you could be, and that is affecting other areas in your life and your belief in yourself and what you can do and what's possible. So I'm not saying don't take care of others. What I'm saying is you have to prioritize yourself first and then take care of others. Because truly, your ability to care for others isn't a Venn diagram of what you can actually do, and where I see a lot of people struggle with that, we'll talk more about it in burnout series when they give more, right? So love yourself enough. Prioritize yourself over others. Other reasons why it's really hard for us as women is unrealistic expectations. We talked about that with society, the standard of beauty, blah, blah, blah. Oh my God, the motherhood bull crap. Oh my, the Instagram on, on, you know, all this trad wife stuff like, if that's what you want, that's what you want, that's great. But ladies, you do not have to be that as a mom, you can be whatever you want, right? So what are these unrealistic expectations people are putting on us suck? So what are the expectations you want for yourself? I can be true to that. That's self-love, right? And then obviously society has this immense pressure for us to be perfect. The past experience, in personal history, in your childhood experience, so remember, that's the childhood experience you had. Those like early experience with caregivers and emotional neglect or inconsistent caregiving, that can lead to a belief that you're not inherently lovable, which makes it really hard to love yourself. So a great book to explore, this is, What Happened to You? I love this book is with Oprah and Dr. Bruce Perry, and I think it's a really great way to have empathy for yourself, but also empathy for others. So obviously, so many people experience trauma, especially as children, that can affect your ability to love yourself. There could have been a life event. You could have gone self-love all day long, and then a life event happened. And so one, be, have so much compassion for yourself. And then let's figure out where, where that happened, and what are these things that we talked about so far that could help you work on that self-love? Feeling undervalued. So you know, when we're underpaid or under supported, or we're not aware of our worth and demanding that because we don't have our boundaries up, we're gonna feel undervalued. That's going to affect our self-love, right? That's really hard. So, and then there's internalized beliefs, the shoulds the guilt or the need for external validation. So if you are someone who is needing external validation to love yourself, it is going to be hard, right? So we do have to figure out a way around that. That might be you have to do something within therapy to do that, because many women tie their worth to external achievements and validation they receive from others, rather than internal sense of self-acceptance. And so if you don't have an internal sense of self-acceptance. It's hard to have that self-compassion, and if you're always waiting for someone else to love you before you love yourself, it makes it really hard to receive that love, right? Lesley Logan 28:28  So okay, in the next episode, we're going to go around some tools for self-love. There's some great books that I want to give you. There's some mantras I want to give you, but what I'd love for you to do as your homework, as I would just love for you to like reflect upon this, maybe listen to it again. What were the things that stood out in the self-love that surprised you, or maybe good and you're like, oh, that's, that's where I'm struggling right now. I would love to know, I'd love for you to share it. You can share it via beitpod.com/questions. You can bring it as a you know, just share that. You can leave it in a review. You can comment on this video on YouTube or on our Instagram, because I would love to hear like what a part of self-love is easy for you, what part is a challenge for you. And by the way, my ADHD ladies, it is harder for us because internalized negative feedback. Women with ADHD may have a lifetime of being misunderstood or criticized for symptoms leading them to believe that they are inherently flawed, and so a lot of women with ADHD are diagnosed late, if at all, and so they're often like, there's like, oh my God, there's something wrong with me. I don't I don't fit in the way people do, and so they have a hard time with self-love. So hi, my ADHD ladies, this part, I wanted to make sure you knew it. It can be harder for us, right? Blaming oneself for failures like because there's a tendency to attribute failures to internal flaws and successes to luck, personal factors, which damages self-esteem, which makes it hard to have self-love. There's a hightened sensitivity to rejection. So women with ADHD are often more highly sensitive to feedback or rejection, leading them to interpret things more negatively. And personally, I see you, and that means it's harder to have self-compassion, right? So, and then also, women with ADHD, often go through a shame cycle. This sensitivity can lead to a cycle of shame and self-criticism, making it difficult to accept strengths or celebrate achievements, which is why we have a wins day. We win on Friday, like we have a wins day, win, W-I-N-S day on purpose, because I need that for me to keep having the self-love it because it's hard for me, like it's hard for me to go ever, like with the ADHD, with all that stuff, it's like, can be so hard to celebrate things until they're done. So I purposely have this in place so that there is a celebration of wins every single Friday for all of us, so that we can have, maybe we can get rid of that shame cycle just a little bit right, and have more ease and self-love. And then lastly, societal expectations. So on top of what we talked about, societal expectations on women in general, combined with undiagnosed or late diagnosed ADHD symptoms, can lead to feelings of measuring up and harsh self judgment. That harsh self-judgment, as we know, makes it hard to have self-love, self-compassion, kind words. Lesley Logan 30:55  You're all so amazing. I really hope that you guys are liking these little series. If there are other ones, you have topics you want us to bring up, or guest we want to bring in, please let us know. Right now, what part of the self-love comes easy for you, what part is hard, and then stay tuned to our next episode, where we'll go over some tools. Thanks so much until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 31:14  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 31:57  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 32:02  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 32:06  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 32:13  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 32:16  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Fluent Fiction - Catalan: Finding Strength in Ancient Bones: A Journey of Resilience Find the full episode transcript, vocabulary words, and more:fluentfiction.com/ca/episode/2026-02-07-23-34-01-ca Story Transcript:Ca: Al Museu de Ciències Naturals de Barcelona, els matins d'hivern són tranquils.En: At the Museu de Ciències Naturals de Barcelona, winter mornings are peaceful.Ca: Els passos suaus de Núria ressonen delicadament als passadissos amples.En: The soft steps of Núria echo gently in the wide hallways.Ca: L'aire és fred, i ella s'enfunda bé la bufanda abans d'entrar.En: The air is cold, and she wraps her scarf tightly before entering.Ca: Aquest lloc és el seu refugi, una fortalesa de saviesa i història, on el temps sembla aturar-se.En: This place is her refuge, a fortress of wisdom and history, where time seems to stand still.Ca: Núria és una enamorada de la història natural.En: Núria is a lover of natural history.Ca: Des de petita, ha quedat fascinada pels fòssils, els diorames d'animals prehistòrics i les maquetes dels ecosistemes antics.En: Since she was young, she has been fascinated by fossils, dioramas of prehistoric animals, and models of ancient ecosystems.Ca: Però avui no està aquí només per aprendre, sinó per cercar pau.En: But today, she is not here just to learn, but to seek peace.Ca: Acaba de rebre un diagnòstic mèdic inesperat, i la por i l'ansietat s'han instal·lat al seu cor.En: She has just received an unexpected medical diagnosis, and fear and anxiety have settled in her heart.Ca: Comença el seu recorregut habitual.En: She begins her usual route.Ca: Davant dels esquelets imponents de dinosaures, intenta desconnectar del seu món.En: In front of the imposing dinosaur skeletons, she tries to disconnect from her world.Ca: Les criatures gegants amb les seves històries de supervivència li han donat sempre una perspectiva diferent.En: The giant creatures with their survival stories have always given her a different perspective.Ca: Però avui, la seva ment fa viatges a paratges obscurs, on els pitjors escenaris semblen inevitables.En: But today, her mind travels to dark places, where the worst scenarios seem inevitable.Ca: Els records de la consulta mèdica la persegueixen.En: The memories of the medical consultation haunt her.Ca: Qué faré?En: What will I do?Ca: haurà de compartir-ho amb la família?En: Will she have to share it with the family?Ca: No vol ser una càrrega.En: She doesn't want to be a burden.Ca: Però a mesura que avança, Núria es troba davant un fòssil immens.En: But as she moves forward, Núria finds herself in front of a massive fossil.Ca: Un ammonit, una criatura marina antiga que va sobreviure a canvis dràstics durant milions d'anys.En: An ammonite, an ancient marine creature that survived drastic changes over millions of years.Ca: Aquí, de sobte, sent una connexió.En: Here, suddenly, she feels a connection.Ca: La resistència d'aquest organisme, que va viure en oceans turbulents i va adaptar-se a noves condicions, li parla.En: The resilience of this organism, which lived in turbulent oceans and adapted to new conditions, speaks to her.Ca: Recorda les històries que li explicava el seu pare sobre com les criatures més petites sovint són les més fortes.En: She remembers the stories her father used to tell her about how the smallest creatures are often the strongest.Ca: Després de moltes silent reflexions, s'adona que la seva situació no és diferent.En: After many silent reflections, she realizes that her situation is no different.Ca: Ella també pot ser resilient, pot aprendre a sobreviure i a adaptar-se.En: She too can be resilient, she can learn to survive and adapt.Ca: Podrà demanar ajuda quan ho necessiti.En: She will be able to ask for help when she needs it.Ca: Amb un nou sentiment d'alleujament, Núria es dirigeix a la sortida del museu.En: With a new sense of relief, Núria heads to the museum exit.Ca: Sap que la seva lluita interna no s'ha acabat, però ara té el coratge de compartir el que li passa.En: She knows that her internal struggle is not over, but now she has the courage to share what is happening with her.Ca: Entén que parlar amb la seva família no és un signe de debilitat, sinó d'enfortiment i de valentia.En: She understands that talking to her family is not a sign of weakness, but of empowerment and bravery.Ca: A les portes del museu, mentre el fred hivernal li infla les galtes, pren aire i somriu.En: At the museum's doors, as the winter cold fills her cheeks, she takes a deep breath and smiles.Ca: Ha arribat el moment d'enfrontar la vida amb valor i honestedat, amb la mateixa força que tenen els fòssils que tant admira.En: The time has come to face life with courage and honesty, with the same strength as the fossils she so admires.Ca: D'aquesta manera, torna a casa, més segura, disposada a compartir la seva història perquè sap que no està sola.En: In this way, she returns home, more confident, ready to share her story because she knows she is not alone. Vocabulary Words:the museum: el museuthe wisdom: la saviesathe fortress: la fortalesathe scarf: la bufandathe hallway: el passadísthe fossil: el fòssilthe diorama: el dioramathe ecosystem: l'ecosistemathe anxiety: l'ansietatthe diagnosis: el diagnòsticthe skeleton: l'esqueletthe perspective: la perspectivathe consultation: la consultathe burden: la càrregathe resilience: la resistènciathe creature: la criaturathe memory: el recordthe condition: la condicióthe relief: l'alleujamentthe struggle: la lluitathe courage: el coratgethe bravery: la valentiathe honesty: l'honestedatthe strength: la forçathe creature: la criaturathe silence: el silencithe empowerment: l'enfortimentthe reflection: la reflexióthe route: el recorregutthe reflection: la reflexió

February brings a moment to pause, reflect, and celebrate what's already working. Lesley Logan shares an important perspective on feminism, choice, and why progress still matters for women everywhere. The episode also highlights meaningful community wins and a personal reminder that being a beginner can be a powerful form of growth. Stick around for a mantra that grounds the weekend in intention and love. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:What the numbers reveal about women, work, and inequality.How defending women's rights creates collective protection and change.Celebrating generational growth by witnessing others step into leadership.Learning new skills without pressure to be perfect.Allowing beginner energy to count as meaningful progress.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsShe Inspires Strength - https://www.instagram.com/p/DRH6AFME5Ax If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? Happy Friday. Happy February 6th. I'm super excited to chat with you today. I mean, like, something about February is just really nice because, like, okay, we're in this. We we're in it, we're in the month, we're in the new year, we're in all the things. And there's lots of stuff going on, you know, always, but you made it. You're here. And it's the day that we celebrate things, we're inspired by things we like, kind of have a loose agenda. Fridays are the days I like to reflect on the week. That's why it's a great day to, like, celebrate something you did do, because you did something great. I know you did. Especially since most of our listeners are women, I thought this would be a fun thing for us to look at together. So let me pull up my inspiration. You know, inspirations don't always have to be exciting. This one is interesting, and I think important for us to know. So women are 51% of the population, but 60% of the poor. Women are 83% of single parents, doing 66% of the work, producing 50% of the food, but earn just 11% of the pay and own only 20% of the land, all while giving birth to 100% of the population. In case you wondered why we still need feminism. And I share this because, look, I I think it's amazing if you want to choose to to not have a traditional work job, like if you're going to like work from home or things like that. The fact that you get to choose is because of feminism. And I think it's important that we continue to remind people that it wasn't always a choice, and women are still not getting paid what their fair share is, and there are plenty of women who are doing a ton of unpaid labor. There's a bunch of people out there who get to do different paid labor jobs because of the unpaid labor of women, and I just want, I just want us to remember that, because it can be really easy to think that, oh my gosh, like we're greedy, or is it ridiculous, we want these things, or should just be happy with what I have? No. Every time you fight for you, you're also fighting for the other women around you. You are. So many women benefit from it, you know, especially those who can't fight for themselves right now, who don't have the rights or the ease to have those rights. So don't stop fighting in the countries and places that you live, and don't stop reminding the people around you, men and women or and everything else and everyone else who are like, it's not that big a deal, like we've moved on by now. We haven't. You know, something that really bothers me is that when a male drives from one state to another, his rights don't change. But for women, their rights do, and that right there should piss you the fuck off. And I don't mean it because I want you to be in an angry place all the time, but like, my goodness, you know. So if you have a family member or a person in your life who's like, you know, it's not that big, it is a big deal. And this is why. And you can use the link in the show notes below to go over those stats with them, and kind of just say, like, explain, like, explain to me why you think we don't need it anymore. And I just would like to say, like, in the history of the U.S. we haven't had a, you know, all female at the top running this country, even at state levels, right? Like we've had governors, but, like the rest of the state, is not majority women running it. It's always had a majority of men, but never majority of women. So, you know, we haven't got what we want. We haven't done that yet, and you can't tell me feminism is a problem when women haven't been in charge of everything, you know. So I'm not saying that we're better than they are, or they're worse than us, or whatever. I'm just saying I think we really still have a lot of reminding people to do that there's still work to do, and we're still not there yet. Anyways, that is my little thing for today. Lesley Logan 4:43  Let's get into your wins. So we have from Nancy Lawrence, who's an eLevate grad and just an all around amazing woman who we've got to go to Cambodia with and celebrate. She's got a great win. She said, m win watching this young queen teach Pilates in her own beautiful studio. And I tell you, she's headed to Cambodia for this year's retreat. She's smashing it. So I love this win, Nancy, because you and your daughter are smashing it. And I there's a picture that was attached to this win, which is like of Miranda teaching in this beautiful space. And you know, when we went to Cambodia together the year before, not, none of those things were on the drawing board. And so like the fact that you get to have a win where you're so present in a space, and you're watching your beautiful daughter's an amazing teacher, teach in that space. What a beautiful win. You know, it's so interesting how we can underestimate what happened in a year. You know, just by being focused on what we want to do, it's kind of incredible what what we can do, and then what we get to witness along the way. So thank you for sharing that win with us. Lesley Logan 5:44  So my win is I bought a blow dryer, and I have been learning to blow dry my hair, and you don't get to see it from today's video, but I have been so once a week, I wash my hair, and then I try with different blow dryer attachment, blow dry my hair. And so I've had more days with my hair down than I usually do, and it's quite fun. It's not at all as gorgeous and wonderful as when my hairdresser does it. But you know what? We can't expect big things from ourselves, because I only wash my hair once a week, and so, you know, at this point, I've been doing it for 12 weeks now. And then, if you take one week out of each month away from my hairdresser doing it, I've only had nine attempts, and I'm not terrible at it, and I am really excited about myself for doing that. So you know, a win can be just learning something new, giving yourself permission to be a beginner at something and not great like that can be a win. So maybe, if you have a win like that, you can share with us, you can send your wins into the beitpod.com/questions, wins and questions go to the same place, and we'll celebrate your wins with you here, because you'll hear it probably months down the road when you need to be reminded that you did something amazing. Lesley Logan 6:42  All right, your mantra for the weekend, I do all things in love. I do all things in love. I do all things in love. Lesley, you do. Have a great weekend. Send your wins in. Celebrate what you did do, and I'll see you next time. Lesley Logan 6:57  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 7:39  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 7:45  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 7:50  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 7:57  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 8:00  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

If you've been feeling stretched thin lately, this episode is for you. Lesley wraps up the burnout series by sharing research-informed ways to prevent burnout before it starts to affect your health, creativity, and relationships. She breaks down why mindfulness, clear boundaries, self-compassion, and asking for support matter more than pushing harder or staying constantly productive—and when professional resources may be needed. This episode offers grounded tools you can begin using right away. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Burnout as the result of chronic stress and losing your sense of purpose.Using mindfulness and micro breaks when life feels out of control.Protecting energy and creativity by setting clear boundaries around time.Practicing self-compassion and why asking for support is not a weakness.Preventing burnout through small daily habits rather than drastic changes.Episode References/Links:Be The Difference - https://www.bethedifferencescv.org/speak-up.phpAnxiety and Depression Association of America - https://adaa.orgEpisode 153: Tanya Dalton - https://beitpod.com/ep153Episode 559: David Corbin - https://beitpod.com/ep559Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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It can age your brain, and it can take years to recover from. Lesley Logan 0:17  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:56  All right, Be It babe. Hello. Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It podcast, we are completing, well at least for now, our series on burnout. Super excited about these little mini series that we're doing. We did habits. We've done self-love. We've got this one, and I really hope you're liking it. And if you are wanting more of these, then let us know, because we want this podcast to be something you want to listen to. And if you have any topics you want us to cover, then let us know. Or if you have any guests, you can send those in. And also, if you have questions after listening to these questions, or aha moments or wins, send that into beitpod.com/questions we will answer your questions on our Thursday episodes for recaps on or when we have interviews, and we will share your wins on the FYFs. And I think it's really important, like, if you have a win, you're like, oh my gosh, I was able to catch myself in some non self-love or bad habit, bad in air quotes, it's not really, there's no such thing as bad habit, habits, things like that. We want to celebrate that with you, because one, it will feel good, but also inspires others. Lesley Logan 1:53  So the first episode on this series was actually like, what does burnout look like? Why is it happening? This episode is on prevention, right? And I think that that that is where we can take some action, and we can really apply our Be It Till We See It style to this, right? So let me pull up my handy dandy notes on this, because it's really exciting. So there are some really great resources out there on preventing burnout, and I was able to find some from different scientists and doctors and people have been really researching this, because, as we know from the last episode, burnout can actually take years off of your life, it can age your brain, and it can take years to recover from. So we know that burnout is essentially losing your muchness from the Mad Hatter quote that I talked about in the last episode, you've lost your muchness. You used to be much, muchier. But truly burnout is you can get burnout from any chronic stress situation, so you know, and this is hard because we don't always get to control the things that are going on in our life. So of the first few things that I'm going to say, I'm just going to tell you right now, like practice mindfulness and micro breaks. So okay, there you can actually study mindfulness, and that is really cool. UCLA has a degree, or not a degree, but a certificate in mindfulness. And it's not easy to do, right? But there are different ways that you can practice mindfulness. One of the things that we did was we froze a grape, and then we practice like putting the frozen grape in our mouth, and like focusing on how that grape felt in our mouth, how like it tasted, what it felt like. We didn't chew it, right? We just, like, kind of focused on it. That's really helpful if you have a hard time meditating. Also, we did mindfulness walks. We like walk. You pay attention to right foot, left foot, right, just like really doing it. But micro breaks and mindfulness practices are going to be really huge for you, especially if you are, if what's going on is out of control, you can't change the situation you're in. We had a client whose parents were in the hospital, and it wasn't looking good. It was like they might never relieve and this client, after a few days of just like, dealing with all that, she realized, like she needed to do her Pilates Mat every day, and just doing that gave her a sense of prioritizing herself, but also purpose, and then just a mindfulness, just like, just like 20 minutes to focus on what she's doing and herself, you know, before she went into this situation that she can't control.Lesley Logan 4:08  All right, this is going to sound obvious, but also we need to talk about it, because I do meet a lot of people who struggle with this. So if you struggle with this, you are not alone, boundaries, you have to set them to protect your energy. The most resilient leaders set clear limits on their time, carve out sacred personal times, whether for the gym, family dinners or unplugged weekends, and communicate these boundaries firmly. Studies show that working reasonable hours and taking breaks boost productivity and creativity while always being on diminishes them. So if you are always on all the time, and you let people come ask for things for work all the time, it actually diminishes your creativity and your productivity. You're not getting as much stuff done as you think, or doing it well. And this is really hard because people get nervous about setting boundaries, they think they're gonna piss people off. You might. You know, I definitely think that there are people, and especially my professional world, where they don't love the boundaries that I set, where I'm like, I won't do those things for you, but I'll do these things for you. And the reality is, there's kind ways to say it. Sometimes you have to just be firm and just say it. Sometimes it's actually just easier to say, like, this is the boundary. This is what I will do for you. But one, they're kind we actually have a really great episode with Tanya Dalton about boundaries. So if you haven't listed that one, I would. It's so, so important, and it's not going to be easy, especially if you're not used to it, and people who love you might get frustrated about the boundaries you're setting, because you are changing the way that they engage with you. You're changing their habits outside of their control, but that isn't your responsibility, especially if you're trying to prevent burnout, because you're no good to anyone, unmotivated, having anxiety, tired, chronic fatigue, like these are things that can actually cause more issues in your life than it just you going, I don't answer the calls after five o'clock, sorry, right? And actually not even sorry, I don't answer call my phone after 5pm unless it's in a family emergency. Like, that's it. So the other thing, and this is why I was, like, we have to do a burnout separate from a self-love, because they are different things, but they go together. You have to prioritize self-compassion and support. So remember, in the self-love we talk about how, like, you have to be nice to yourself. That's part of self-love. You got to practice that that act in itself will not only love you, but it will also help prevent burnout. So huge, like even double the reasons to do it right. So high-achieving women often hold themselves to impossible standards, and I would actually edit that to overachieving women. I think high-achieving women can have kindness towards themselves, you know, so practicing self-compassion, speaking to yourself as you would a close friend, reduces guilt and shame, very important, and it builds resilience. Seeking support is equally crucial, and you might need to lean on mentors, peers and loved ones. Asking for help is actually strategic strength and not weakness. And so there's a ton of research on how recognizing the need for self-care is actually the first step in restoring the balance in your life. And so just right now, if you're listening to this and you're like recognizing, I need to care for myself more. I need to have more self-compassion, your body is going to react to that in a way that is going to help the first step in balance and rebalancing what's going on in your life. And so I think that that is key key I think it'll be harder if you're not used to having self-compassion in yourself it might be harder than boundaries and mindfulness. I'm going to be honest, but it's important. So establishing healthy boundaries that includes prioritizing your self-care, that means regular exercise. So like, what is a healthy boundary and where do you need to put them in? So I think you know, most boundaries are probably healthy, but looking at making sure that you have quality sleep. So you might actually want to start with, like, when do you go to bed? When do you wake up? What does that mean for the people in your life, if you're gonna go to bed earlier, do they need to do stuff in their life earlier? Do they need to help you out sooner? And I highly recommend with these things, I'm about to suggest you don't try all of them the same week. My loves. You want to use the anyone these that that kind of perks, like piques your fancy, perks you up. I want you to run through the habits series, because it's gonna help you. So if you want quality sleep, you'll go through the habit series on like all the different things that you think you can do to get quality sleep, and then start habits around that before you would dive into regular exercise, if that's not something that's easy for you, or going to therapy social connections, like nurturing your social connections and spending time with friends that can help, but you have to also have to have, you know, boundaries around that, and it might mean that you need new social connections. So that may be something you're like worth reviewing. Are the social connections in your life adding to your burnout or preventing it? Lesley Logan 8:32  Reading, journaling, other hobbies. So I actually think a lot of people are missing out on a great hobby. I think a lot of, especially a lot of women I meet, their hobbies become jobs. I've been very public about how, like, I have a new hobby. I'm really loving what I'm doing. I'm studying tarot. And every time I tell people in my life I'm studying tarot, oh, my God, would you do a reading for me? No, the answer is no. One, that's boundary. Two, I want to keep it a hobby. Maybe at this at some point I would, I would do readings for friends, just for the fun of it. But right now, where I'm at with my hobby is not sharing with other people, and that's okay. You know? What's also really great you guys for prioritizing your self-care and having some healthy boundaries, you could actually take a relaxing bath, pamper yourself, right? These are not rewards. These are not rewards. These are just things that you do regularly for you to prioritize your self-care. So prioritizing your self-care can also look like laughter, entertainment, the way you fuel yourself, the food you eat, all of that is prioritizing. So if you're like, I'm too busy, oh my gosh, you have to eat every day. Can we just make sure that the foods that you eat are actually nourishing you? Can we do that? The other parts of preventing burnout are going to be seeking social support and doing some sort of mindfulness practice. We talked about that. I'm going to give you a few tips on the mindfulness practice and then cultivating a positive work environment, that is hard, can be hard to do if you don't control that. Regular exercise is also important for preventing burnout, and then getting therapy or their doctors involved is going to be helpful. But let's dive into mindfulness practice because, like I said, UCLA does have a certificate in this. But what are some other ideas, if you're like, I don't want to, like, focus on a grape, or practicing how I walk, deep-breathing, just sitting here and going inhale, right and then exhaling and just focusing on your breath. Maybe you only do it for five breaths. That's totally fine. There's mindfulness meditation apps, right? Like, there's like, all these different apps you can get on. There's a podcast about mindfulness meditation, and she releases a new meditation every single week. You can replay this, the one that you love. Guided imagery that is like, where you can kind of find a meditation or a guide who can help you picture what you want your world to look like, so you can make adjustments and being it until you see it. Mindful walking, we talked about that, mindful eating, that's also great, mindful journaling. Write down your thoughts and feelings in a journal. Focus on the present moment. This practice can provide clarity, insight and healthy outlet for emotions. We had David Corbin, and he, his one of his Be It Action Items was ask right the question at the top of a piece of paper, and then close your eyes and then write down what comes to your mind. You'll be like writing all over the page, but that active journaling can be really mindful, and if you are going to use mindfulness, some of them can be more expensive than you want them to be. So like I said, there, there are podcasts out there on different music apps you're already paying for. There's probably some sort of mindful meditations you can be listening to. So take a look at that. I know that my fitness apps that I have also have mindful meditations on them. So try not to double up on things, because that could just be overwhelming and cause, cause, add to your burnout, right, that you're having. Lesley Logan 11:28  So if your burnout is looking deeper into, presenting itself as deeper into anxiety or depression, I definitely would go to the helpline for the ADAA, which is the Anxiety and Depression Association of America. You can also check out the help line of Be The Difference. You know, it's part of reading burnout is asking for help. There's nothing wrong that. And if you need the people in your life, you're like, I can't go to them. That's okay. You know, sometimes the people in our life are also experiencing these things, so we don't want to add one more thing to their plate, or they are, they can't be the help that we need, you know, and that that sometimes what we need is professional and so I hope that that this helps give you permission to seek professional help if you need it. And I know it's difficult, oh my gosh, I have a I have to call my insurance company myself to, like, call this one place and see if my insurance covers it. And then I then I get to call the place, and then I get to have the appointment. Like, I get that. So get that, which is why, if that is one of the things you have to do in a day, do that and know that that's part of the self-care that you're trying to do for yourself, and that's part of prioritizing yourself. And then while you wait, try on one of these things that prioritizes yourself or sets boundaries, or helps with mindfulness, so that you can be little by little, doing something. You know, a lot of the people I coach, they're like, I want to do this, this, this and this. Try one thing. Go back to that habit series, one tiny, tiny habit, so that you can actually make a dent in what it is that you're wanting to do and get there, you know, be it till you see no one gets there overnight. We all the joke is, Rome wasn't built in a day. It really wasn't, you know, but then we expect ourselves. So I should be better tomorrow, because now I know I have burnout. I prioritized myself today, so I shouldn't be burnt out tomorrow. If you are already there, it's going to take some time to take some time to unravel what's going on, right? But you can do it, and you owe it to the future you to do it. You owe it to the people that you love to do it, right? The people you want to love or you don't even have in your life yet. So I hope these tools help. I hope this gives you some ideas. You know, ask the people on Instagram, like, what are your prevention tools for burnout? And what I got was a lot of people struggling with burnout. So I know that this is an important topic. It's difficult to like, but I have to get up tomorrow like, I can't cancel, the Pilates teachers that I coach like, I can't cancel the day tomorrow, you can't but if we if you get so burnt out that you're sick now we got weeks, right? So not saying cancel the clients, but I am saying maybe, maybe this exam client has to find a different time or a different teacher, because you can't do it anymore. Maybe that's where we have to start. If that, if you can't afford to do that yet, then okay, journaling is free. Deep breaths are free. Playing music that helps your brain feel really calm and good. It's, you know, probably not free because you have to get a license, but it's not, it's nominal, right? Lesley Logan 14:27  So just know that every time you're doing something for you that makes you feel good, it is a step in the prevention of burnout, and you are worth it. Burnout is not like burned out. It's like this, like this, like little flippant thing. No, it's a serious thing, a serious thing that has serious consequences and affects people, not just you, in the world, in your life, in a way that isn't helpful. And so I know how much you love what you do, and how much you love the people that are in your life. I want you to love yourself enough take care of you so that you can do all. The things that you want with the people you love, and so you can be it till you see it. So share this with the friend who needs to hear it. Let me know if each of these tools was helpful for you or what your favorite tools are. What are the ways that you help with boundaries or prioritizing yourself or mindfulness? I would love to hear them and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 15:16  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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In this special series kickoff, Lesley Logan opens an honest conversation about burnout and how it can quietly build around the things you love doing—often without you realizing it. She explores the irony of burning out from the things we are passionate about, the three key signs defined by the WHO, and why high achievers are most at risk of losing their “muchness.” If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:50  Hello, Be It babe. How are you? Oh my gosh. Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It Podcast. You know, normally we do interviews on Tuesdays and recaps on Thursdays and FYFs on Fridays, and everyone's well, I just want to do like a topic, because we've had some amazing guests on it, and I want to revisit that with you, right? I think it'd be a lot of fun. So in doing that, I want us to discuss burnout. We've have a self-love series, we have a habit series. And you know, something that I get a lot from the women that listen this podcast and we work with is just like, the difficulty in preventing burnout, and also, just like, are they ever not burned out and all that good stuff? Because in being it until you see it, it's really easy for y'all to be just overachievers at it, and just like, go harder than one needs to, right? And so I want to just give us. I want us to be on. I want us to have the tools to be it until we see it. And that means understanding burnout and how to prevent it. So this episode will be, what is burnout, so we can be really clear about what it is. I think it's important to be able to name something versus like, what's depression, what's overwhelm, things like that. And then also the second episode, beyond like preventions, like things you can actually do, because you guys are action takers, and I love that so much. Lesley Logan 2:05  So what is burnout? Why do we have burnout? What does it look like? That's what this episode is. If you're like Lesley, I've got it. Well, you can wait till Thursday. But just in case, you know, I think it's important to go over this. And I saw this quote, yeah, as I was preparing for this episode, and it said from the Mad Hatter, and it said, you've lost your muchness. You used to be much, muchier. And I think that, like that can be a sign of burnout, if you, like, lost your muchness, right? But get this the World Health Organization (WHO), actually has defined what burnout is. And so I think that's great. I think, like, let's go with the science. The burnout is a syndrome tied to unsuccessfully managed workplace stress. Like, obviously it can be personal stuff too, so well. But like, WHO is doing this from this part. So it's made up of three parts, exhaustion, feeling distant or cynical towards your job and reduced performance at work. Dr. Ashley, who has since become an expert on this topic, and is a self-proclaimed burnout doctor, she said, I think you can get burnout from any chronic stress situation. So I think that that is helpful, because, like, the simpler sentence, what WHO was trying to say, is any chronic stress situation that can provide burnout. And this is interesting you guys, because it's so easy for us to love what we're doing, but create chronic, chronic stress around it, and so then we burn out from the thing we love doing. And we'll talk about why that happens. So burnout is serious. In severe cases, it can cause premature aging of the brain. This is, this is insanity to me, because, like, oh my God, we cannot let our brains age sooner than they need to, and if you're under 45 your chance of dying from all causes goes up. I mean, let that just sink in, and it's indicated by a study they did a scientific journal, PLO S1, Dr. Ashley estimates it can take one to three years to recover from burnout. You know, as a kid, I remember like, my mom had a job that, like, was really stressful for her, and she slept the whole summer. And I remember my dad having to, like, leave work on stress leave like these it can take one to three years recover, and I do believe it did for both of them. So it's really, really important that we don't just go, oh, this is the busy season I'm in, you know, and dismiss it like we should be stronger and we shouldn't be feeling this way. Lesley Logan 4:25  Why is burnout happening more often? So, increase caregiver and emotional labor. So obviously, this episode, this podcast, is really designed for women. We have few good men who listen. Thank you so much. And it is so we've mostly women listeners. So I'm just going to talk about the women's aspect of burnout. So women often carry the mental load for their households. And this is so true. I see it in a lot of my friends who are moms, you know, like they remember everything. They're coordinating the childcare, they're managing family needs and often caring for aging parents. They also frequently are expected to manage the emotions of those around them at both at work and at home. Home, which is why, like it's possible to have a stressful job, but then if your home life is also demanding of you, then it like you don't have a refuge, right? And so that can be really, really difficult. Cultural expectations, the style norms, can pressure women to be nurturers, always available and have to have it all, creating unrealistic standards and feelings of inadequacy when these expectations aren't met. And this is also something that I've seen because, to be honest, I have a I have some friends, I've like, friends in air quotes that I've known from groups that we have been in, and I'm watching their posts on Instagram, and they're just like, so beautiful all the time, so put together. Even when they're like, I'm not put together, they're so put together. Like, their background is so beautiful, their house is so well decorated, and they're showing like, oh, I can be this, like, person who, like, makes sourdough, and I also am a badass in the workplace. That's amazing. That's wonderful. I hope they're so happy, but also, like, it can set up an expectation that we should all be feeling the same way as them, in the same place of our life. And like, that's just not the case, right? We don't all have the same 24 hours in a day. So the always on culture, a sense of constant responsibility, combined with social media pressure to maintain a perfect image contributes to a feeling of being always on and unable to truly rest. Lesley Logan 6:13  This is something I have really had to grapple with in the last five years, because a lot of the work that I do is on camera, you know? And I always was like, Oh, my God, maybe I have to, like, I have to, like, get ready. I have to do my makeup. I didn't even finish it today. If you're watching this on the YouTube channel, like, I, like, I started this recording, like, oh, we have no mascara on. Like, I got really good at going, you know what? I have to put out this content. I have to do all this stuff for the work that we do, that I that I that I created because I love this podcast, I love the memberships that I have, but I cannot also expect myself to be, in air quotes, on all the time. And so first of all, since day one, I've always just been myself online. I don't really know how to be anything else. And two, that means I don't match I don't always have my hair done, I don't always have these things. And so by just being myself, it has really helped me overcome the Always On pressures that can be out there. But if you are feeling that like that is a real pressure that is out there. And I understand that, and I it's difficult, but I hope that you can truly allow yourself to be yourself and everywhere you are and and you're allowed to have feelings and things like that. But if your workplace doesn't allow that, if, if the standards you set for yourself don't allow for that, if the people in your life don't allow for that, that can that means that you're always on, and that can be a pressure that's causing burnout in your life. Lesley Logan 7:26  So there are also some workplace factors that I think are really important to go over. Obviously, some of you who are listening don't have the opportunity to control the workplace. Some of you have created your own workplace. And so if any of these factors are in your workplace you created, we definitely want to, you know, unravel that if you have these factors in the workplace that you are in, then I definitely think it's worth going okay, at least I can pinpoint part of where this burnout is coming from. So inequitable workloads, women may face additional work outside of their formal roles, such as supporting colleagues, and have less flexibility in their jobs. We had an FYF of a few weeks back where I actually discussed, like, how men are given workplace reviews and women are given workplace reviews, and it's really annoying, because women's workplace reviews are often on, like, their personality versus like, the actual job that they did. So this is this can create chronic stress in the situation at your work. Couple that with like, what you've got going on at home, and you have a recipe for burnout, right? Gender pay and inequality. The gender wage gap and workplace discrimination creates stress, while limited career advancement opportunities and a lack of recognition for contributions exacerbate burnout. I mean, we all are aware that women are not paid the same amount as men, and then you add in race, and that is, it makes it even more of a pay gap. So if you happen to be a woman of a of color, you all you already are probably experiencing more factors towards your burnout. And so if you're feeling it like it's real, right? And I hate that for you, but I also think it's important that we don't deny that that's what's going on. And then lack of support. In professional environments, a lack of support from senior leaders and gender biases can make burnout more likely in this, yeah, lack of support in general, in life, can create burnout like it's so I have ADHD, so it's not easy for me to ask for help. I have to like practice. And the reality is is like, we all need it. We all need help. No one is supposed to do life alone. Lesley Logan 9:18  And then I just want to add this from Psychology Today, because in my research for this, I found a couple things that made me think of you. So y'all are high achievers. There's nothing wrong being a high achiever, right? Overachieving is exhausting. High achieving, nothing wrong with it, but high achieving women are at a greater risk of burnout and identity erosion due to chronic self-neglect. And you know, on this podcast, we talk a lot about prioritizing yourself first, so that that could be something that is actually causing the burnout. You could love what you do. You could love the family you have, but if you're and you probably do, but if you are lacking that prioritization of self and neglecting you, then you're going to, even with all the things you love, create burnout experience and then burnout why it's so, so important to pay attention to is that burnout can lead to anxiety, depression and a loss of personal meaning, connection. That's a big deal. It's a big deal. Not only are you not able to even have anything to be it till you see, but it can cause you to have missed experiences and relationships that that you probably care so much about, partners, family members, children, things like that. So it's really, really important that we address burnout and that we discuss, like, what it looks like, so that we can prevent it, and we'll talk about that in the next episode. Lesley Logan 10:28  But some common signs, just in case you're like, okay, I don't have it. So signs of burnout in women may include chronic fatigue, decreased motivation, feelings of inefficiency, increased irritability, disrupted sleep patterns, withdraw from social activities. So obviously these things can also look like perimenopause. They can look like depression. But you know, we had, we had somebody on the pod who is like, I'm not depressed, right? Not depressed, but I'm not fulfilled. So it, I think that it's important to be like, wow, if I know I'm not depressed, if I don't feel that way, but I have increased irritability, and I'm withdrawing from social activities. You know, if I'm decreasing motivation, I'm usually a very motivated person, there's something going on. And instead of thinking there's something wrong with you, we can look around what's going on in my world that is causing these things that are not normal for me. So with all that, you know, I definitely have had burnout in my life, you know, like we talk not much in recent past, because I'm because I've gotten so good at spotting what it looks like in my body and in my life and how I'm reacting to things. But I remember back in probably right before our wedding, I was, it was my day off, and I was driving to the mall to go buy something for myself. I were going to a party. I was like, I'm gonna go buy this thing. Like, it should be so exciting. It should be so fun. And I saw an email pop up, you know, those like little notifications on this email pop up, and it just sent me into having a total anxiety. I don't have anxiety, sent me to total anxiety attack. I had to pull over, had to call Brad, you know. And what we discovered is that, like, you just sit down and like, actually look at what's going on. And my workplace experience was just so stressful, even though I loved what I did, I love the people I worked with. I love teaching. I love being a teacher. I loved all of it, but the truth is, is that the people around me were creating a chronic stress experience. And so we got really clear on the numbers that I needed to make in my personal business, and we made a plan, and I worked that plan, and I was able to get out of that job, and I was able to notice, oh, oh, here are the things I am creating chronic stress in my own situation that I created myself. And so you're not going to be perfect at stopping before burnout, but if you can notice what it feels like in your body and how it how it is presenting itself, it makes it easier. Lesley Logan 12:54  So I'm gonna wrap up the episode here, because I know you're really busy, and I don't want this podcast to be part of the chronic stress that you have in your life. So thank you so much for listening to this series, all the series. If you are enjoying the series we're doing, I would love to know the topic you want us to like, do a little more research on, have a little more talk about it. Or if there's guests that you want to like us to have on the pod, you can definitely send those in. Mean the world to me if you leave a review and share this with a friend who needs to hear it, maybe you have a friend who's like, exhibiting all these signs, and it would just be helpful for them to be like, oh, nothing wrong with me. I'm just in a really crappy situation that is causing this kind of feeling and behavior in my body, in my life, and I there's that means we, once we know that, once we're aware, that we can make changes. We can't make changes if we're not aware, right? So thank you so much. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 13:40  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 14:23  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 14:29  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 14:33  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 14:40  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 14:43  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This Fuck Yeah Friday, Lesley Logan shares the story of Dr. James Barry, a woman who changed medical history by defying the limits placed on her. The episode also includes a community win around collaboration and referrals, along with a personal reflection on how small steps build momentum. It offers a grounded reminder that progress builds through consistency, not perfection. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How refusing limits on her identity allowed a woman to reshape medical history.The importance of women supporting communities so everyone benefits.How long-term client relationships grow through shared history and trust.Why collaboration grows stronger through open referrals and support.How confidence and momentum grow by simply getting started.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsHerWiki - https://www.instagram.com/p/DQS1YGZCOZd If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Happy last Friday of January 2026. Holy freaking molly. This is crazy. It's crazy. Oh my goodness. How are you, babe? Really? I am so grateful that you are spending some time listening to this podcast. I do not take it lightly. I am obsessed with what we're creating. I cannot believe how deep into the 600 episodes we are. It is mind boggling to me, to be completely honest. So we're gonna kick this off with something that inspired me. This is insanity. This is gonna blow your mind and like, create things to talk about during your day. If you're like, oh my God, I don't know how to talk to this person, you should talk about this. All right. So for 56 years, the British Army's top surgeon had a secret so explosive, they buried the records for a century to hide it. Even Florence Nightingale never figured it out. Margaret Ann Bulkley, was born in 1809 Ireland. At 15, she watched her father rot in debtors prison, while her uncle, a famous artist, refused to help. Historians think she was raped, got pregnant, had to hide the baby as her sister. But Margaret didn't break. She did something so insane, so brilliant, that 200 years later, we're still shook by the audacity of it all. She killed Margaret Bulkley. Became James Barry, bound her chest, deepened her voice, and walked into the Edinburgh, Edinburgh Medical School like she owned the place. The other students thought he was a prepubescent boy. Too young, too smooth-faced. The university tried blocking the degree. But Barry had allies. In 1812, Dr. James Barry graduates, moved to London, becomes an army surgeon. The transformation was complete. Margaret was dead. James was unstoppable. Posted to Cape Town. Barry didn't just treat white colonists. He fought for enslaved people, prisoners, lepers. Made enemies everywhere. His temper was legendary. Once got into a pistol duel, shot the peak off the other guy's hat. Message delivered, don't f with Dr. Barry. Then came the moment that should have exposed everything. A woman with a complicated pregnancy needed a C-section. No European had done one in Africa and kept both the mother and the child alive. Barry doesn't has, didn't hesitate, cut her open, pulled out the baby, stitched her up. Both survived. They named the child James Barry. In honor. For 46 years, Barry rose through the ranks, became Inspector General. I mean, the most beautiful, like, just look at that. Oh, like angelic. Became Inspector General, second highest medical position in the British Army, reformed hospitals everywhere. Florence Nightingale called her or the most hardened creature I've ever met. She had no idea she was beefing with a woman fighting tooth and nail trying to survive. Barry had rules. Nobody enters while I'm undressing. If I die, bury me in my sheets. No examination, no preparation, just bury me fast. But on July 25th 1865 Barry dies of dysentery. The chairwoman preparing the body makes a discovery that rocks the British Empire to its core. Not just female anatomy, stretch marks, signs of childbirth. The second highest medical officer in the British Army had been a woman all along. The army went into damage control, sealed the records for 100 years, tried to make it disappear, but the truth was already spreading. The woman who couldn't get into university because of her sex had just spent 56 years as British Army's most decorated doctor. She performed surgeries men couldn't reform, healthcare systems saved thousands, all while, one discovery away from losing everything. They tried to bury her as Margaret, but she'd already buried, already buried that girl in 1809, she died as she lived as Dr. James Barry, on her own terms. Everyone who's been told that's not for girls, this is your ancestor. So whether we want to call them Dr. Barry or Mark like she I think Dr. Barry, this person's a badass, amazing and just goes to show us all that, like, like, things can happen and they can change you, and you can still change the world. You can still take all of that and go and change the world. And it's hard. I'm sure it was so difficult for this person, no wonder they were angry. No wonder people were fighting them, like, I can't even imagine. But also like, wow, way to pave ways, and way to make discoveries and save lives, and not just fight for one side, but also, like for the lives of other people. We can do a lot of things. So just proof that when women are in communities, we support the whole community. It's kind of amazing. Lesley Logan 5:17  All right, your win for today that you've sent in. So you can send in your wins to beitpod.com/questions you can send a question, you can send a win. But this is from MelissaYNagai. She's been with us for so long, and I love that she still sends her wins into us. So I realized today that every client I taught has done Pilates for years. Two go to yoga studios for mat, some have moved closer to me, so switched. A couple worked with me at a previous studio I worked at, and now here with me. Also, several of them have taken time off Pilates, but keep coming back. And that's so cool. I think that's so cool. I think it's so awesome. Also, that you're celebrating that they've been doing it for years. It's not just with you that, like they've just been doing it for years, and like it used to be when we all started teaching Melissa, I'm sure the same way, it's like, like, most people didn't even know what Pilate was. And now we have people who've been doing Pilates for years and years and years, and yes, people are still discovering it, but like, it's possible to have all these people just have, like, a lot of history doing Pilates. You also sent in, had some of the team from the health and wellness unlimited out to my home studio space for a bit of conversation how they can help make referrals, plus a mini workout. This is the clinic I share space with my second studio. And I just absolutely love that you are spreading the good word and inviting people in to see how we can collaborate more. Y'all, like, Pilates or whatever it is that you do. This isn't always Pilates. People who are listening whatever is that you do. It's better in collaboration. Everything is, you know, and it's hard to do because we're like, oh my God, why would they work with me? Or I don't know. I don't want them to think I'm still, no one is, I don't I you're not if you're listening this podcast, you're probably not an asshole, and you're unlikely to steal anybody's anything. But like, we can help people. My chiropractor sends us members. We send my people to my chiropractor. Like, it's just how it makes the world go round. And isn't that great? People want good referrals. So I love that you're shining from the rooftops, like, how what you do can support what they do. And I think I love that this is a win, Melissa, because we can all learn from that. Like, how can I work with someone over there who does something different than me, but with people who are the same as who I work with? How can we work together more? That's what makes things a community. That's what makes people feel less alone. Lesley Logan 6:09  All right, your, oh, my win. I always was like, okay, done, nailed it. You know, my win is, I was reflecting a bit about last year. I take a little while because, like, to me, I'm on tour for when the New Year happens. So I took some time. And on my vacation, I thought about, like, oh, I wanted to read 25 books in 2025 like, did I do that? I did. I read more. And I actually realized, like, because I started reading again, like, how fast I read again. And, like, I read things all over the place, like, all over different subjects and genres. And I really enjoy that. And I also count Audible books as reading a book. So because I listen to Audible books and read physical books, and I love reading physical books, that's just not always an option, especially when I'm on tour, that like, I could probably read even more. So, you know, definitely 26 in 26 but you know, it really, it felt really kind of daunting when I was like, oh, am I gonna read 25 books? How am I gonna read 25 books, especially when the first few just took a little longer than I thought. But the reality is, like you just get started. Just get started. And so I hope that helps you. If that is a goal of yours, to read more, and that's my win for this week. See how simple a win can be. I've read some books. Yes, I did, and I'm so like, you just it's actually quite nice to read a book. Lesley Logan 8:38  Okay, I grow towards my interests like a plant reaching for the sun. I grow towards my interests like a plant reaching for the sun. I grow towards my interest like a plant reaching for the sun. Oh yeah. Like chew on that all weekend long, loves. All right. Send this to a friend who needs to hear it. It really would help this podcast grow. Send your questions and your wins in. We love sharing them and listening to them and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 9:09  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 9:51  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 9:56  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 10:01  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 10:08  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 10:11  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Retirement isn't just a financial equation—it's an identity shift. In this recap, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell reflect on the conversation with wealth advisor and researcher Gregg Lunceford, who challenges the traditional retirement model by focusing on identity, purpose, and emotional readiness. They explore why longer lifespans have reshaped retirement entirely and why high performers often struggle most when their job no longer defines them. Whether listeners are 25 or 65, this conversation reframes what freedom after work can truly look like. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How increased longevity has made traditional pension models obsolete.The reality of the 20-year life bonus after your career ends.Why high achievers struggle to uncover a non-work identity.How intentional communities support mental and emotional well-being.The importance of creating a shared retirement vision as a couple.Episode References/Links:Agency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsPOT in London - https://xxll.co/potSpring Training: How To Get Overhead - https://opc.me/eventsSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsThe Seeing Eye - https://seeingeye.orgMesirow Wealth Management - https://www.mesirow.comGregg Lunceford on LinkedIn - https://beitpod.com/greggluncefordExit From Work - https://a.co/d/fR25gH2 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Brad Crowell 1:01  Take it away. Lesley Logan 1:03  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the trailblazing, trail, trailblazing. Brad Crowell 1:12  Wanna try that again?Lesley Logan 1:16  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, don't laugh at me. I don't want to start again. Brad Crowell 1:22  No. The Welcome back was perfect. It was amazing. Lesley Logan 1:25  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the trailblazing convo I have with Gregg Lunceford in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you fucked up. It's so good. Brad Crowell 1:41  It's a great interview. Lesley Logan 1:42  He's a great educator. He blew my mind.Brad Crowell 1:46  So inspirational. Lesley Logan 1:47  Yeah.Brad Crowell 1:48  You actually, literally said my internal dialog out loud to him towards the end of the interview, because you were like, yeah, after listening to you, I'm so excited for this next chapter of my life. And I was like me too. It was amazing.Lesley Logan 2:06  I know, I know, I, your parents need to listen to this stat. Brad Crowell 2:10  Yeah, he's a badass. Lesley Logan 2:11  So anyways, they won't even be out, and they're making decisions right now, maybe we have to get them an episode early. Okay, so you can come back and listen to it later. You can finish this and you can listen to that one, or I gotta finish the script. You can listen to this one, or you can listen to that one first, whichever you want to do. But just you gotta listen.Brad Crowell 2:28  You did not have to finish the script. You can just let it go. Lesley Logan 2:32  I could also just close the loop on that. Brad Crowell 2:35  That was the only loop that you know. Lesley Logan 2:37  Well, you know what, Sir. Brad Crowell 2:40  Today is January 29th.Lesley Logan 2:42  It's just after my birthday. You can still wish me a happy birthday. It's the anniversary to celebrate Seeing Eye Guide Dogs. So the Seeing Eye Guide Dog Anniversary is an appreciation for all the dogs who act as their owners' eyes and ears. The devotion and taught abilities of these particular canines keep them safe and enable them to operate as a fully functional persons. The day is meant to recognize a school that educates them. Seeing eye dogs go through extensive training to be able to, say, safely traverse the environment and all of its hazards for their person. That's why they're so worthy of this recognition. Okay, so I don't have a seeing eye dog. Obviously, we don't know anyone who in our life who has a seeing eye dog, but I have watched the dog who could tell a girl was about to have a seizure before she had it, and then opened the fridge and pulled out her medicine and gave it to her while she was having this like seizure. Brad Crowell 3:37  That's crazy. Lesley Logan 3:38  Crazy. And I have met people with dogs who can sense if they're about to have, like, an insulin situation, because they have some, like, a type of insulin diabetes where, like, it can change really drastically. I have definitely seen people with seeing eye dogs, and I'm so impressed. And so really, the rest of the days sucked. And this is the best one of all the choices. Brad Crowell 4:00  I like this one, though. Lesley Logan 4:01  I really like this one, because here's the deal. Brad Crowell 4:03  So the organization is actually called The Seeing Eye. Lesley Logan 4:06  Oh. Brad Crowell 4:07  Yeah. And I, I'm just realizing that as well. Lesley Logan 4:10  Okay, well, they got up, they didn't pay for the sponsorship, because they're doing great work out there for people who need it. Brad Crowell 4:14  It's a guide dog school. Lesley Logan 4:16  And I am just kind of obsessed with this. And so if this inspired you in any way you should go donate money to your local no kill animal shelter, because while those dogs won't be a seeing eye dog or a service dog, they certainly need your help. This is really or you could donate to your seeing eye dog school if they need the money like you never know. You might your life could change. You might need a dog that's a service animal. So I just was, you know, anything to help raise money and thoughts about, please don't buy a puppy. Go get go adopt an animal. They have puppies too. Brad Crowell 4:48  You know what is amazing. I'm reading about the school, and I think that my elementary school teacher went to the school, because when we were in school, she somehow lost her vision, and I remember she.Lesley Logan 5:07  You were taught by someone who couldn't see?Brad Crowell 5:10  No, when I was taught by her, she could. But then, like in a year or two later, when I was like, in fourth or fifth grade, we we found out that she lost her vision, and I remember her going to Braille school. And I'm pretty sure she went to seeing eye dog school. Lesley Logan 5:25  That's so cool. Brad Crowell 5:26  Because think about it, if you're like, you know, 5060, years old, and you've never worked with a dog before like that, how would you even know how?Lesley Logan 5:34  Yeah, no, you have to get trained. Okay? But now this opens up a whole thing. So then she couldn't do the thing that she loved to do. She couldn't teach anymore. Brad Crowell 5:41  I'm pretty sure she retired. Lesley Logan 5:43  Oh, that's such a. So wait, this sucks. If you're blind, what are your jobs? You could be a phone sex operator.Brad Crowell 5:52  Yes, you could be a phone sex operator. That's not what I was gonna go, but yeah, you could do that, but.Lesley Logan 5:56  But you can make a lot of money doing this. You could do you could be a 900 psychic.Brad Crowell 6:01  You could be a 900 psychic, or you could just talk on the phone, too.Lesley Logan 6:05  Yeah, yeah. With technology today, I think they probably have more options, but I just realized, like, that would suck, like, all of a sudden she can't teach anymore. What if she couldn't even retire?Brad Crowell 6:15  No, it's, it's very traumatic, you know? I mean, we have a close friend of ours whose husband was, he has a, like a degenerative disease that didn't strike until he was in his, you know, midlife.Lesley Logan 6:31  We do? Brad Crowell 6:32  We do. Lesley Logan 6:33  Oh, is it blind, is he going blind? Brad Crowell 6:35  No, but, but the idea of being able, of being an abled body and then all of a sudden, everything that was quote, unquote normal for you is no longer an option. And that scares, that scares me.Lesley Logan 6:49  Scares the hell out of me. But, okay, Dark tangent, dark comedy tangent. Okay, I think it was the French, it was a European commercial. Do you remember this thing? It came through at my Instagram, and this, like, got this woman and this guy, like, wake up on a couch. They like, had, you know, obviously had sex last night, and like, they woke on the couch, and he's like, no, I gotta go. She's like, you could stay. And then, like, he is, like, getting up, and he like, puts himself in his wheelchair. And then this guy opens up the door to the apartment, and he's like, what's going on here? And so clearly, the woman was cheating on her partner, and the whole thing was like, what, like, you know, just maybe think before you park in someone else's spot, or like using the bathroom, or like using the handicap parking and using the handicapped bathroom, and it I died laughing. I cried laughing because, like, what a great way to get people to go. Oh, I'm fucking using that restroom, or I've never parked in those spots because in LA, one of my girlfriends was just parked there to take a phone call and she got a ticket. Don't do it, guys, they don't care if you don't leave the car. Don't do it. It's for someone else. It is someone else's spot. But just made me laugh. I know this is all about seeing eye dogs, and I thought it was a great advertisement for not being a dickhead.Brad Crowell 8:08  Well, what a fun turn this took. Lesley Logan 8:10  Okay. Well, everyone, look, you, your life could change in an instant. So if there is a charity in your area that is helping people get service animals into the hands of people that need it, this is their I'm sponsoring an ad for them. Go give them some money. Give them some time. Brad Crowell 8:27  Participate. Lesley Logan 8:27  Yeah, you never know. Maybe you could become a really good trainer for one of these dogs. You don't know. You know, they people in prison are training some of these dogs so there's great work going out there. So everyone needs a hobby. This could be yours. Brad Crowell 8:39  I love it. Lesley Logan 8:40  All right, you guys, we are home. Brad Crowell 8:43  Yeah, we are, we are. Lesley Logan 8:44  I know where we are in the world. We are home. Brad Crowell 8:47  We are officially home. And last week was Lesley's birthday. Lesley Logan 8:52  Was fabulous. Brad Crowell 8:52  It was fabuloso.Lesley Logan 8:53  It was so fun. I think it's my new theme every year. I don't know. I'll probably change it next time. I'm an Aquarius, who knows, whatever. But it was great. 43 it's looking good, and we're getting ready for Agency Mini, which is next month. Lesley Logan 9:06  Yes, February. Agency Mini, in fact, it's a good chance it's on early bird right now, to be honest. Brad Crowell 9:11  Could be, could be, yeah. Lesley Logan 9:13  Yeah, possible. prfit.biz/mini is where you're gonna go. It's for Pilates instructors or studio owners who work for themselves or want to work for themselves.Brad Crowell 9:21  Yeah, that's profit without the O dot biz slash mini, prfit.biz/mini.Lesley Logan 9:26  And we are getting ready. Brad has never been to Poland. Brad Crowell 9:30  First time. Lesley Logan 9:31  And we have never been to Brussels. And we'll be with Karen Frischmann. And then we're gonna do a second honeymoon, because why not? And then we're going to be in London. So if you want to see us in Europe, it's the only time in 2026 we're going to be in Europe. xxll.co/poland gets you the Poland information xxll.co/brussels gets you Brussels information, and xxll.co/pot will take you to the London information and. Brad Crowell 10:00  Yeah, come hang out. It'd be so fun to meet in person. Lesley Logan 10:02  Oh my gosh. It'd be so fun. And as of right now, our 2027 calendar does not have anything in it, and it may stay that way. We don't know yet. I don't know. So if you want to see us in Europe, this is it.Brad Crowell 10:16  Sounds good to me. I was gonna say maybe Greece, but we're not sure.Lesley Logan 10:19  We're waiting. We're still at the moment of this recording, which is November of 2025 we think we have an invitation to Greece, and we're just waiting for the dates.Brad Crowell 10:30  We shall see. Anyway, in May, for all of those who aren't in Europe, join us virtually, we're going to do another spring training event with onlinepilatesclasses.com. If you were with us last year, two years ago, we did a summer, summer camp. Last year, we did a spring training we loved the spring training vibes, so we're doing that one again. We're going to do that event again, but the topic is going to be totally different. We're going to do how to get overhead. So it's going to include all of those kinds of exercises where you're upside down and, you know, breaking it down for you, making it feel a little more accessible and safe and all those kinds of things. To get on the wait list for that and get the more information as it as we start releasing it, go to opc.me/events, opc.me/events, and you'll be able to stay in the loop. Oh yeah. Brad Crowell 11:18  So today, we had a question, except we're going to change up our question. Normally, we, we get, we get tons and tons of questions. If they're a business question, we usually answer them in our coaching group, Agency. It's from Profitable Pilates, our coaching group, and but this time, what we thought we would do is just ask a few of the questions so you can kind of see if any of these are resonating with you, and see you know, like, how do we tackle, like, how is it that we support the studio owners and teachers that are inside of Agency? So for, for example, we have, we have a recent one that just got submitted. It said, hey, how much notice should I give that client give my clients about my rate increase?Lesley Logan 12:02  No more than 30 days. You can go as low as three days, but no more than 30 days. I've had Mini people do two weeks. It really kind of depends on, you know, if you're doing a $2 rate increase, you can do that next week. You know, it's not a big deal. Doing a $25 rate increase per session. You might want to give them 30 days notice. But we actually also have a course that tells you exactly how to raise those rates and how to actually how to give the people the notice you're going to give so you don't get you're going to have people who have no filter, and they don't realize what they're saying out loud to you can feel personal. It's not, but yeah, but yeah, that's what I would say.Brad Crowell 12:38  I mean. We've got a lot of different tools to support specifically, like, how much should you be raising rates and why? Why are we doing it this way, instead of it just being a random number out there. So if you're ever wondering, like, am I charging enough? That's why people join Agency, we get to dig into these questions with you. Kind of break down some numbers, think about it, logically, all that kind of stuff. Another question for you is, I'm thinking of changing my currently, I sell packages. I'm thinking to change to an auto renew subscription. So instead of selling a 10 pack, you get 10 classes a month or something. I'm assuming that's what it is. Lesley Logan 13:15  Yeah. I don't mind if it's a limited Okay. Brad Crowell 13:17  Yeah but how do I do this without being too wordy? How do I communicate the change to my clients?Lesley Logan 13:21  You're gonna have to have a contract. First and foremost, you, this is a auto renew, and the FCC, I believe, put some stuff in place recently. Look, it could have changed. Brad Crowell 13:32  They took it away. Lesley Logan 13:33  They might have taken it away. Brad Crowell 13:34  Click to click to cancel, or it's already it's already trashed. Yeah, they did. Lesley Logan 13:38  Fuck those people. Anyways, okay, so guess what? No one's fucking regulating. You can do what you want, but reviews still stand. And so if you would like to what I always believe is go back to your values. We have a course on your values. But I have, I have, if this was an office hours call, I could ask a couple of follow up questions about the person, because I have some reasons for not doing an auto renew. Meaning, if you are a solo teacher, I'm going to say no auto renew for you. What happens if you get sick? What about your vacations? There are ways to set packages up so they almost feel like an auto renew, but you actually don't owe people anything if you get sick or if you go on vacation, if you do an auto renew, you actually owe them whatever the contract states.Brad Crowell 14:16  Right, because, what if you're out of town for two weeks and they're like, well, I didn't get my 10 classes, what do we do then?Lesley Logan 14:21  And then they were out they were out of town the other two weeks. And then you also have to figure out with your scheduling tool, can it handle this? Can it handle this feature you want to change it to? If it does handle it, how easily is it to stop it and start it? Some people want to have 90-day contracts on these auto renews and then a 30-day notice. These are all things you have to talk about with a lawyer, but we can actually talk about that together in Agency, our office hours or coaching call to really make sure what's going to work best for you. And then, and then, if you are a studio with multiple teachers, what are the breaks you want to have? And then, why are you doing this? So the other question like, how do you communicate it? It kind of depends on what your values are and what the benefit are that you're trying to say, for example, if you're trying to say that our auto renew is great ease and consistency, plus our number one priority, which is community, then you would actually make it really easy for people to be on auto renew and really hard to be on a package, right? Because packages are more convenient for the person who owns a package, because they can decide when and if they want to use it and auto renew, they have to use it. And then what you need to understand about auto renews is it's another way of saying membership and once you have memberships, you have churn, and you will actually, you might be surprised how much churn you have with auto renews versus people with packages. Because I don't love to be on auto renews with places, because I travel so much, so I might not choose a place that forced me on auto renew or charges me more to be on a package. Now I might not be your client, so it doesn't matter. I don't want to scare you, but these are the things you have to think about. And where, in Agency, we actually coach you on it, because we don't do templates. What works for Brad's studio for auto renews is not going to work for Katie's or Georgia's, right? Like, we have to actually look at like, how many people are on the team? What is the goal of the studio? What are you what are the services under that? Because don't, don't get me started when I see I have to have a membership for mat and I have to have membership for a reformer, and I get mad about that.Brad Crowell 16:18  Now, that's too many options. People don't know what to do. Lesley Logan 16:20  And then they have to think about it. Brad Crowell 16:21  Well then, they just do nothing.Lesley Logan 16:22  Yeah, and so you just have to know, like, yes, it looks like that's how businesses are making money right now with all these auto renews. I'm telling you right now that bubble is popping. We are watching class-based studios lose clients who are middle class a lot faster than you think. And so there's reasons to explore what the options are. What's your purpose for running this change? Like, what? How is this easier for you? Do you think it's to have predictable income? What's in it for them? And then that's how we sell it to them? We have to sell it to them on how it's in it for them, they don't give a fuck about what's in it for you. I mean, they don't not give a fuck but they don't.Brad Crowell 16:57  You're right, like, really, that's not their concern, and it shouldn't be, right? No, so well anyway. So this is the kind of conversations that we get to have over at, in Agency, our fitness business coaching. So whether you're doing yoga or pilates or, I mean, we've had people in there who are we've had a chiropractor in there. We've had a doula in there. We've had bar boxing, whatever. So obviously the majority of our audience is Pilates. So that's primarily what we're discussing over there. But in the service-based industry, we we love doing this. We've been doing it for eight years now. So yeah, if you're interested in more information about that, just reach out to us or go to profitablepilates.com, and you can find out about the coaching over there, but. Lesley Logan 17:37  Join Mini. Do the Mini thing. Brad Crowell 17:38  Oh, join Agency Mini, yeah, go to prfit.biz/mini prfit.biz/mini.Lesley Logan 17:45  If you can sign up right now, it's $25 if it's on early bird, it's $65 if it's not, oh my God, for three days of coaching, change your life. Brad Crowell 17:52  Yeah. 100%. I love it. Well, thanks for joining us down that. If you have a question for the pod or question for Lesley or me, just text us, 310-905-5534, or submit a question at beitpod.com/questions and you can leave us both a win where we'll we'll probably weave that into our Fuck Yeah Friday episodes or you can submit a question, which we can do on our Thursdays. So stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this amazing convo that Lesley had with Gregg Lunceford. Brad Crowell 18:21  Okay, let's talk about Gregg Lunceford. Gregg Lunceford spent more than three decades in financial services as a wealth advisor at Mesirow in Chicago. I'm sure I'm saying that wrong. He said it twice, and I was I wasn't sure. But anyway, alongside his advisory work, he's an academic researcher whose PhD studies at Case Western Reserve University, focused on the social, emotional and financial realities of today's retirement transition. And this was so interesting to me, y'all.Lesley Logan 18:50  Fascinating, fascinating. So.Brad Crowell 18:53  His curiosity about why even high, highly successful professionals hesitate to retire led him to explore how identity, purpose and well being shape this stage of our lives. And he's like part historian too, right? So he's also the author of Exit From Work, and he writes about his journey and insights into retirement. So, but I, I really enjoyed him breaking down just the different stages of our lives. And also, like, he's comparing generations. Lesley Logan 19:24  Oh, yeah. Brad Crowell 19:25  And like, how they got to where they are, and like, retirement package stuff that is not even an option for us. Lesley Logan 19:32  Let's just talk about, like, let's get more specific what the episode is about, just in case I haven't heard it. So we were talking about retirement attitude, in a sense, like in that, you know, the way my grandparents retired. I to this day, I'm shocked they retired. I didn't know they had money to retire. They didn't look like they saved anything, but like they're, you know, one, one side saved everything. It came out of the Depression. The other side could have been their children. So very different life. They're very young, and so they, like I, I have one set of grandparents who were retired when I was born, and I had another set of grandparents that worked the whole for a while when I was alive, right? And then they all had a pension, and then they just and then they just retired and got paid to be not working, right?Brad Crowell 20:18  What I think, what I think is amazing is Gregg's analysis, and I'm sure this is well documented now, but, but his analysis of life expectancy shot everything in the foot. Lesley Logan 20:30  Right. Brad Crowell 20:30  He said our grandparents' generation, and to some extent, maybe our parents' generation, the pension game, the reality is that people weren't living to be 70, 80, 90 years old. They were only living 60, 70, years and so if you're working until you're 55 and then they have to pay you out for a decade more before you're done, then. Lesley Logan 20:55  It's not that much money. Brad Crowell 20:55  Wasn't that big of a deal but when you're living till you're 80, all of a sudden the companies were like, this is a massive burden for us. We can't, we can't do this. And so then what? The retirement age got older, the pension packages started getting slimmer, all that kind of stuff. So like, when we look at our grandparents and they had just like, you said, how was it possible that they could even retire? It didn't make any sense.Lesley Logan 21:17  They always they had actually had money to give when they died. I was like, what? They had, they had money? So, so the thing that was really fun with Gregg is that, like he, you know, we got into this more deeply in the episode. It's worth listening to. But like during the 2008 recession, companies were trying to just fire everybody. And so they were trying to go, here's the money. All I do is take this amazing package, and people weren't doing it, and it's because it was emotional, like it wasn't just knowing the number, which is like, what the ads would say. It was like, who am I if I'm not doing this? And like, you know some, I worry about, like, like, your parents have worked, your dad's worked for a company for 40 something years. Brad Crowell 22:02  41 or 42 years, yeah. Lesley Logan 22:04  Well, you're 43. So, so and so he's gonna retire, right? And it's like, does he know what to do? Does he know what he's gonna do? Brad Crowell 22:13  It's so funny because, and also, he probably could have retired. No, no, he they could have, I think financially, they could have retired a while back. But again, I think you're right on the money. It's not, it's actually an identity, right. It's a it's the way that you see. It's how you define who you are.Lesley Logan 22:32  Well, and he's so, so, so Gregg, our genius that we interviewed, he said, you we now have a 20 year life bonus, where you get to define who and what you want to be, because you have your first 20 years getting 20-ish years getting educated. Then you have 20 something, well, Andrew advocates 40 something years that you're working, but then you probably have another 20 plus years to be anything you want. Brad Crowell 22:58  Yeah, because he was talking about the bucket list where people are, like, I'm old and decrepit, but I want to go see Niagara Falls, right? And basically, now today, because the quality of life is so much better, you're still active and able to do life normally, you know, well into your 70s and maybe even 80s, until you're willing to slow down so at that point. But like, so, so then your bucket list is a bit different, because, like, okay, you can probably travel, travel, travel, travel for five or 10 years. I mean, my grandparents did this. They bought a they bought an RV, yeah, and for a decade, they drove around the United States, for a decade, but they eventually got bored of it, and then they came home and they still lived for another 20 years, you know? So it's like, okay, so the bucket list thing, if that, if, if people aren't looking at the end of life as like, I gotta finally have a good time. Now, what Gregg is saying is, like, you could flip this on its head entirely.Lesley Logan 23:55  Yeah. Well, he, he emphasized that today's retirees have more personal freedom than previous generations. And you're probably like, Lesley, why are we talking about retiring? We're still going to be it until we see it. Because be it till you see it changes. It changes all the time. And also, if you are not considering what you want to do on the other side of whatever it is you're doing, I don't care how much you love it. I fucking love what I do, and I dream of exiting stage left all the time. And it's not because.Brad Crowell 24:19  She, this is what I hear around our house. I can't wait to be the person that people go who is she again and and she's like, something to do with Pilates, I don't know.Lesley Logan 24:31  Yeah, like, so there's a line in Notting Hill where Julia Roberts' character says, like, she, she says it in like, not a, not the nicest way about herself, but like, people are gonna look at her, like, as this person who was once famous for a while. And I see it as, like, a complete amazing thing where it's just like, someday it'll be like that, oh, that's that person who she was kind of known in her industry for a little bit, and it's like, yeah, she's not like, I like, I was once famous for a little bit in a small part of the world, and now I can move like, because why not? It doesn't mean I don't love what I do. And by the way, like, please don't freak out. No one freak out. Your memberships are fine. I'm not going anywhere. You got to tell people this, Brad, you got to make sure they know. We are currently creating two other things right now so no one I'm not going anywhere, but I do constantly think about I want to be able to retire when I have my faculties, to travel the world, to go to Antarctica, to do different things, I don't want to be in my 70s going, okay, now I'm hanging my hat up. No, I want to know who you and I are on the other side of working together like I there's these other things. And so I wanted to have Gregg on because when he told me what he did, I was like, fuck yeah. It doesn't matter how old you are listening to this, you can take some time to think about what is the freedom I want to have in this extra bonus of life I get. Your grandparents didn't get it. None of mine did. They all died young so. Brad Crowell 25:58  Yeah, the the I think it's, I think it's, I think it's just really interesting to look at the the shift of things, right? There's so many factors that that made the Baby Boomer, Boomer generation, like, pretty epic.Lesley Logan 26:12  Man, they don't know how good a ride they had. Brad Crowell 26:14  Yeah, and the wealth that they were able to build without, like, realizing it, and all that stuff has, that whole flow has shifted completely, you know, and so it's interesting, though, because life expectancy is longer, and I just, I just love that. So I think that really shifts into what I what I loved about he was talking about, he said something that I found intriguing. He was talking about football players, and he was talking about people who have high performance people, or make a shitload of money, and then they retire, and they, he said, they burn through a lot of money trying to figure out who they are.Lesley Logan 26:54  Yeah, this blew my mind too, because it's like, oh, hold on you. You have the money, but you don't know what you're gonna do with it yet.Brad Crowell 27:01  Well, or it's not. Lesley Logan 27:03  Or who you are with it. Brad Crowell 27:04  That's what I was gonna say. It's not even, it's not even what they're gonna do with it yet. It's they're trying to find themselves because they've been defining themselves.Lesley Logan 27:12  They weren't listening to this podcast. Every single person tells people to get to know who they are. Brad Crowell 27:16  Yeah, but they've been defining themselves by their job for 40 years. So then what happens when you're no longer able to define yourself? I know what this is like, because when I moved to Los Angeles, I was there to do music, and after two years, only two years of being there, so I'm like, 25 right? I am die hard into this band. We are doing everything and anything we can to make this band go and then the singer of the band is like, I'm going to grad school. And he quit. And he was like, my partner in this band. And I was like, what the hell man? Like, why did I come all the way out to Los Angeles to do this. What, to do what? What am I gonna do?Lesley Logan 27:55  Because you're gonna meet me. But that's okay. You didn't know that yet. Brad Crowell 27:58  No, I did not know that yet. It was down the road. So, so I was really I was depressed, I was angry, I was confused. I didn't really know how to I didn't know what I was going to go do. I still knew I wanted to do music, but I but what ended up happening was I really got into motorcycles, like really got into motorcycles, and that became kind of how I defined myself. It was how I I changed the way I dressed. I literally rode a motorcycle every day. I joined a motorcycle club. I would ride all over Southern California, you know. And so suddenly that became my identity. And it wasn't until I was networking and met some more people in music that I began to shift back into the music kind of things. But like, yeah, for sure, I can understand how people would be like, well, I used to be blah, blah, blah, whatever, and now I'm no longer so what am I?Lesley Logan 28:46  It's so easy to blow through money to figure out who you are. There's people who join Pilates training programs at 60 because they're like, oh, I think I want to do this, but it's like, eight grand, right? Well, what if you don't? Then people feel like, oh, I just wasted all that money. And then they do something they don't want to do with it, or, or they just keep trying out different things. And like, now they've got this now. They bought a kayak, then they bought the ski doo, and then they bought the boat, and they're trying to be retired first. And so, yeah, I think so, I think it's really easy because they don't know who they are. And that's Gregg's whole thing. They you have to know who you want to be.Brad Crowell 29:19  Yeah, he said many people who spent life meeting obligations are now suddenly confronted with, who do I actually want to be? Right? Who do I actually want to be? And he said, if you go into that blindly, you start chasing quick hits to replace the accolades of a job. You know, the team mentality, the psychological part of success, when you achieve a goal, you know, and basically it can feel very scattered. And he said, so what we should be doing is preparing what he calls a retirement identity. A retirement identity. And he said, instead of trying to figure it out when you get there, what if you started processing that now? And I thought, man, that's really interesting, because that's always been a question for me. You know, like, I asked your dad one time, what's it like to be retired? And he goes, I don't know. man, I've been retired since my 50s.Lesley Logan 30:16  Yeah. He's been retired for a long time. So, like, we're gonna live in Mexico and become tequila smallies. I've already figured this out. Brad Crowell 30:22  I love it. I love everything about that. I think that's brilliant, but, but also, he said there was other he said there was other options too. What did he call it the barista? Oh, no, no, that was the last week barista retired, where she was talking about, you know, getting a part time job. She called it barista retired. I think? Lesley Logan 30:41  Oh, I think so, but I. Brad Crowell 30:43  You know, like, and that's what your dad's doing now. And why is he doing that now? Because he doesn't want to sit around and watch a television all day. He wants to get up and be active. Lesley Logan 30:50  Yeah, there's, there's great. There's, he's a, he's a, he's a crossing guard now, he fucking loves that.Brad Crowell 30:57  Gregg was talking about, like he works with these clients who are looking towards retirement, and he helps them sculpt these packages, which are really clever, right? Because it shifts your focus of purpose in the job. If your job has been to manage a team of 50 people, now you might be training your replacement person for a year or two before you shift into part time. And you just do it, because you can do it from wherever you need to be and whatever. You know, lots of options.Lesley Logan 31:24  I am obsessed I'm obsessed with this whole thing because, like, everyone wants to know, like, how much money do you need to live off of? Like, that we even our lovely wealth people were like, how much money do you want to live off of when you retire? And we were like, we don't want to worry about money. That was our answer. Because I want to live in an Airstream sipping tequila. And, you know, coming back home here when the weather is good, and then, I don't know, we have a house in Cambodia, there's a I want to see the world. So we had that, but we no one was like, what is your retirement persona? Brad Crowell 31:54  Yeah, how do you, how do you imagine spending your time participating in the world, you know, as a retired person? Lesley Logan 32:02  I mean exactly. Brad Crowell 32:03  Is your goal to watch every movie in the last blockbuster? Maybe you shouldn't do that.Lesley Logan 32:09  We might have to talk about having different lives. Visit you. Brad Crowell 32:17  Actually, it's funny that you say that. He said, a lot of couples don't talk about this, and they see, I, you know, they see themselves retiring in different ways. It's not something that they've actually discussed. Interesting.Lesley Logan 32:28  Well, and you know what? Maybe I have to if there's an expert listening who does graduated marriages, I would love to have you on because that's what they're called. They're called graduated marriages, where you love the person you're married to. You don't want to cheat on them. You don't want to be married to someone else, but you would like to have some people just do a separate room. Some people have a separate house, like they live in a different place because they want to live over there. Clearly, that doesn't work for us, because I would get lost, but. Brad Crowell 32:57  Fascinating. Lesley Logan 32:58  It's fascinating, you know, like, I mean, you know, there's this one podcast I listened to, and she is been working. She still has her company. She's working. She works like a dog. She's got a really successful podcast, and she wants to travel with that podcast, and her current successful company is something that she can travel with, and her husband can't, and she's like, I love you, and you can visit me. I want to live for this many months in this state. I've never lived there. I want to live there. I want to feel what it's like. And so she got an apartment, and he is visiting her every other weekend. That's cool. And, you know what, maybe it spices things up. I'm not saying that, but that's the thing. But like, I do think that if you're in a relationship and you haven't thought about retirement together, may this be your assignment, you should contact Gregg and or.Brad Crowell 33:42  Or have a conversation with your partner. Lesley Logan 33:43  And if you're solo, yeah, yeah. And if you're solo, then if you haven't thought about this, you should, because otherwise you're just focusing on dollars. And that's where I think people get obsessed about what the stock market is doing, because you're not actually thinking of how it affects the person you want to be. And you get a little weird about it. And we have an episode with Wealth with Tess coming back on when it comes to, like, the stock and our numbers and all that stuff, and this uncertain time. But I just think that this is a way cooler.Brad Crowell 34:08  You're totally, you're totally right, because it does just become about like this, like, mad, mad. Like, focus on stashing cash, kind of the markets or whatever.Lesley Logan 34:18  Well, and there's much fear around that. And then it's like, but then who are you right? Like, I'm just obsessed. Brad Crowell 34:22  Exactly that doesn't actually address anything that Gregg is talking about here with your retirement identity. Lesley Logan 34:28  I can tell you right now.Brad Crowell 34:29  Your retirement identity is not a bank account number.Lesley Logan 34:31  He is the only person talking about this. I haven't heard anyone else talk about this. I haven't had anyone else to talk about this. And I am like, this is the stand still, like, number one retirement episode we'll ever have like I'm saying here today.Brad Crowell 34:43  Yeah, it's great. It's awesome. Well, love it. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into some Be It Action Items that we got from Gregg Lunceford. Brad Crowell 34:55  All right, so finally, welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Mr. Gregg Lunceford. Lesley Logan 35:07  You go first. Brad Crowell 35:10  All right. He said in the planning process of your ideal self, this retirement identity that we've been talking about, he said, what you also have to learn how to do is to replace kinship with friendships, kinship with friendships, which I think is kind of cool. He said today we don't have kinship the way we once did, because families are smaller and they are spread out, right? And also we're not necessarily going into the office to have. Lesley Logan 35:39  Oh, we talked about the Golden Girls. Brad Crowell 35:40  Yeah, you did. Lesley Logan 35:41  Okay,so. Brad Crowell 35:42  Talked about the Golden Girls.Lesley Logan 35:42  Yeah, Sue, just so, you know, Brad, we're on a compound already with Steven Sue and I and a few other people. We're taking applications.Brad Crowell 35:49  We're taking applications. Yeah. So what's really funny, though, is he brought up the Golden Girls and we've talked about this for like, years.Lesley Logan 35:58  Yeah, and I was, like, a wealth manager co signed the idea, I'm in.Brad Crowell 36:04  So he said retirees, retirees must create for themselves on their own, a living setup that supports financial stability and mental well being, and that's where the Golden Girls concept comes in. So it has to include intentional socialization and finding things that create psychological success. So here's an example. He said. It's called an ABRC. It's an academically based retirement community. Or there's another one called a URC, which is a university based retirement community. And basically what he's saying is, if you worked in a field for a really long time, and you connect with other people who worked in the same or similar field, you will have a lot of things to talk about that are the same. Then you'll be able to have those conversations. So that's where the academically based retirement community comes in. Versus a university based retirement community would probably be like, Hey, we're all from the same alma mater, Alma Mater. I may be a year or two before you or after you, whatever.Lesley Logan 36:59  So here's my criteria for ours. Ours is going to be people. Everyone has to who, after Sue Steven, you and I. Everyone has to tell us what young person in their life who is strong on Strapping, who can help move heavy things, because you and Steven aren't going to like, stop doing projects. So we're gonna need help there. And then we just need, we need people who have children to, you know, to help take care of it, because we don't have any. We're not bringing that to this. We're bringing the project management to the community. But we don't have, we're facilitating. We don't have the young person, right? So, so, so sue and Steven have a three nieces on their side. So that's good.Brad Crowell 37:40  Okay, okay, okay. So we, I think we have a couple on our side too.Lesley Logan 37:44  We have, we are, I am the favorite aunt to our only niece, so there's that. But you know what? She might we need extra, just in case. We need to have extras. You gotta have, like, it's like having retirement. You gotta have backup. Brad Crowell 37:57  I remember my grandfather, who recently passed away. He was 94 I think, when he passed away, he moved out of his house at like, 88 or 87 years old into a retirement community. And he did it in, like a snap whim moment, because one of his longest friends for 50 years was like, hey, I just got an apartment at this place down the road. You should come, you should join us there. And he was like, absolutely, hell yeah, literally, called our whole family was like, I'm moving. And everyone's like, what? You're 87 what are you talking about? Lesley Logan 38:34  No, we're gonna find a mid century motel.Brad Crowell 38:36  But the, well, the goal for him here was community. Right? Where he went had, it was a it was like one of those communities that had live on your own, but they're still around, get partial help, and then eventually get full help. So it had three different facilities in one place. And so he moved into that I can do everything by myself, part of the community, and would walk down the hall and go play pool every night with the guys you know. And he did this for many, many years. And the belonging, that communal element that changed the game for him, because he was sitting alone in a house before, and he was like, this sucks. I gotta, I gotta get out of here.Lesley Logan 39:12  Well, I like our compound idea. It's a little culty, but not too much. And I only want the people that we want to be around on this. Like, I like what your grandfather did for himself, it's eally great. But there's also, like, a bunch of people involved that I didn't like, you don't get to choose them. So this is. Brad Crowell 39:30  But he found, like, love late in life too. You know, so there's that.Lesley Logan 39:33  He lived his best life. It's fine. I'm saying it's not ours. And that leads into my Be It Action Item that I'm talking about, which is, like, it's critical that this is a shared vision, yeah, so you gotta create a vision, the shared vision. I understand that I'm telling Brad about this vision a lot. Don't worry. I know what he likes.Brad Crowell 39:49  No, I'm very on board. I love me some tequila. So sign me up. Lesley Logan 39:53  I just think we have our great friends. We have a bunch of DINCs in our life off, but we get all the DINCs together, dual income, no children, all the DINCs together, we can have a cool kick ass compound with, first of all, just the just the red light therapy alone, we're like, already golden, so I'm just so in on this. But okay, so back to what Gregg said to do. Gregg said, create a vision. It's critical that it becomes a shared vision. And he actually said that research shows approximately 40% of couples do not even discuss retirement savings, which is bad, like whole no wonder so many divorces happen. People just don't talk about shit. Like, what is happening? Gonna start talking about your goals. Engage a professional like Gregg, to help you see how you can align your financial wherewithal with those visions. Probably Gregg, because he's the only person who studied this. He's the only, everyone else just wants to know what your fucking number is. He cares about what you want to do. And then, he said you have he wants you to think differently. He wants you to think about being your best self at this stage, not being someone whose society just says it's just time for you to leave. He wants you to, like, really think about who your best self is and take ownership of that, because you're kind of a badass, like people don't realize, like you have so much knowledge that is acquired from the time that you've spent so own that. And he said, in his words, you have more value to offer a lot of people than you think. And I think that that's true. There's like, so many different ways you can prepare, like you can be a big brother or a friend or a, you know, a leader of some kind in some capacity, with all this knowledge you have, you could, you can, you can, you can support people around you who need it. So there's just so much more live 20 bonus years. Plus, you know the way things are going, we'll see how we'll see how this ages by February, considering they're trying to get rid of nursing degrees and stuff like that in July. So we'll see. But I'm just saying there's a lot you can do. And I just really want people, I want people to have all the information. I don't. I don't like that some people have to work until they're 80, or because they either because they need the money or because they don't know what to do other than that, like that makes me sad, both of those. So hopefully this helps you. I'm Lesley Logan. Lesley Logan 41:57  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 41:58  Thanks so much for listening. How are you going to retire? We want to retire? We want to know what that vision What's your retirement persona? Tell Gregg. Tell the Be It Pod, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 42:07  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 42:08  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 42:51  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 42:56  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 43:00  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 43:07  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 43:11  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Gregg Lunceford, Managing Director at Mesirow Wealth Management and a retirement transition researcher, joins Lesley Logan to explore why retirement is about more than financial planning. He introduces the concept of the “third age”—a longer, undefined stage of life where identity, purpose, and structure matter just as much as money. Together, they discuss why work identity is so hard to release and how shaping your retirement identity early can make your next chapter feel intentional instead of uncertain. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why modern retirees now face a long “third age” requiring purpose beyond leisure.How work identity provides recognition, social connection, and daily structure.The difference between living as your “ought self” versus your “ideal self.”Why failing to plan identity often leads retirees to burn through money.Why creating a shared retirement vision helps guide future decisions together.Episode References/Links:Mesirow Wealth Management - https://www.mesirow.comGregg Lunceford on LinkedIn - https://beitpod.com/greggluncefordExit From Work by Gregg Lunceford - https://a.co/d/c84euxXThe Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel - https://a.co/d/feJq9lhGuest Bio:Gregg Lunceford has 32 years of experience in financial services. He is a Managing Director, Wealth Advisor in Mesirow Wealth Management and Vice Chair of the Mesirow DEI Council. He creates comprehensive financial planning strategies for individuals, families, organizations, athletes and business owners. He is the Investment Committee Chair for the American Heart Association, on the Board of Directors for the Juvenile Protective Association, an Advisory Board Member for the Nathan Manilow Sculpture Park at Governors State University and is an Advisory Board Member for the Quinlan School of Business at Loyola University. Gregg is also a frequent speaker on WGN radio's “Your Money Matters.” Gregg earned a B.A. from Loyola University, an MBA from Washington University, and a PhD from Case Western Reserve University where he conducted research on retirement. 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And once you start to figure out, I need to form a retirement identity and understand my ideal self. You start to self motivate and become excited about it.Lesley Logan 0:27  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:10  Okay, Be It babe. This conversation is really cool. It's really, really cool. It might you I'm going to introduce it in just a second, I'm going to introduce the guest, and it might be somebody like when you think about this, you yes, you do. Yes, you do. And I actually am really excited once I hit in on this, because Brad and I have already talked about this topic with each other, but I we've actually not dove into what retirement looks like, right? Like? What does it look like? Who are we, you know. And I think especially if you're an elder like me, you're like, I'm still trying to figure that out for my work stuff, but, but there's, there's an even bigger reason for us to think about it now, and Gregg Lunceford is going to explain that to us, and it's going to give you so much inspiration and a joy and excitement and possibility. And I can't think of a better be it till you see it, thing that be working on than what Greg is going to offer us up today. So here he is. Lesley Logan 2:04  All right, Be It babe, I'm really excited, because when I met this guest, I was like, hold on, this is very different. This is a whole different attitude to have about. Fine, we're going to talk money. And I know some of you want to, like, put your head in the sand and ostrich out, but we're gonna talk retirement. We're gonna talk about some really cool things, also just thought processes to have. We have an amazing guest, the first person ever make me think of this in a different way. Gregg Lunceford from Mesirow, is here to rock our world today. So Greg, tell everyone who you are and what you do.Gregg Lunceford 2:34  Hello, Lesley, thank you so much for the opportunity to be on your show. My name is Gregg Lunceford. I am a career professional in financial services. I work for a firm called Mesirow Financial in Chicago. We have locations across the country and some overseas. I am a wealth advisor. In addition to that, I am also an academic researcher, and my field of study is retirement transition. And so what I work with clients on is getting them, not only do you understand the financial part of retirement, but also the social, emotional components of making the transition and how it is unique to them, because the 21st Century retiree retirement transition is much different and way more dynamic than most people think, having watched others do it in the 20th century.Lesley Logan 3:21  This is so cool, because you're not, like, our, you know, our grandfather or father is like, like, financial planner, you are actually thinking, like, deep about the person. And that I find, I don't think I've known anyone who does that. Like, usually it's like, here are the numbers, here's your sheet. Let's put this in. How much money do you want to have and like, that's it, but you you've brought more personality to it and also more emotions to it. How did you get started in that? Gregg Lunceford 3:47  So I'll give you a little bit of a backstory. So as I mentioned, I've been in financial services for 33 years, and when the real estate bust occurred in 2008 I was working for another organization, and we were having people come in and very successful people, and they were set for life. They were being offered an exit package from their from their employer. They were leaving a lot of C suite roles, or maybe a little role below the C suite. And we were having meetings with them to prepare for retirement, and we would go through all the financial numbers and something still wasn't right. And what I was noticing was they were hesitant to make the retirement decision, even though the company was saying, look, we, giving you this excellent opportunity to exit early create cost savings for us. It'll create great financial opportunity for you, especially because we were in this period of time like unemployment was going above 11%, and so here's the opportunity to take this nest egg and be good, which was counter to what we were taught in our industry when I came in the industry that, you know exiting out was an economic choice, that once you hit a certain number, then you would go look for activit ies of leisure, because work can be depressing and daunting and stressful and all those kinds of things. And even when I was watching, you know, commercial ads from people in the industry and competitors, you know, you'll see something that goes, and I won't call the company, but they had a very successful campaign that said what's your retirement number? Yes. And this number will follow you down the street. Is this? You know, you walk from the door, do you remember that? And you look at your balance, it's like, if today's the day you just tell your boss, I can't stand you, and it's over with, right? And so this was very counter to what I was experiencing. And so I started to talk to some of the senior level people in my organization. I said, there's something going on here and and they said, well, it's probably because they're talking to us, and they're also shopping with other people to see who they which which company they want to work with. So go offer them a great discount, because it's probably all things equal, and it's just they're being sensitive about numbers, once again, making this an economic choice, so we would do that. And what I recognize is the sales cycle got even longer. And so I would go back to them. But I said, have you been looking at the trends for our sales cycle? And you would think that these would be quick, easy, easy sales, you know, because people supposed to be running out of the door, and they took longer. And so I said, there's something we don't understand about someone who is at this stage, and the feedback I got was, if it's something social emotional, there's nothing we can do about it. You know, if someone's afraid about running out of money, you can create an annuity product to take care of them for life. Somebody's worried about interest rates going up, you can create a product that deals with interest rate sensitivity, but nothing can deal with how a person feels. And I didn't accept that as an answer. I thought that was wrong, because the way I view it is, clients hire us, and they trust us, and we can do a better job the more we understand the client beyond just their finances, right? And I felt like there was a big problem here. So I basically said, you know, I want to go back to school and study this. And I negotiated for time to be in class, and I got it. And so I went to Case Western Reserve University. I got into a PhD program there, and I did four years of PhD study and lots of studies trying to figure out what are the social, emotional factors, as well as the financial factors that a person considers when making the retirement decision. And there were just tons of things that I learned in that process that I used to help my clients. Were happy to talk to you about that journey.Lesley Logan 7:37  Yeah, I'm excited to get in with that, because it's really funny as you talk about this, I like, my my family, right? My mom is two years from retirement, and she's got two homes, you know, in California that it, honestly, I was trying to get her to sell few years back because it would have been a great idea. And like, get a condo, be set for life. And we're like, showing her the numbers. We're like, look at this. This is a you, you can set yourself up to just be chill, and she is like, not listening, and I think it's because of the emotional attachment to these properties versus, like, the numbers. And so I can I get that right? Like, I get my my in laws could have retired years ago. I don't think that they know what to do if they don't have work things. And I don't even know that they love their work. I think they like what the what the work represents that they do during their day. So I do want to dive into this, because in being it till you see it like I'm hoping that every listener here gets to live to the age that they desire, like and we all are, as you mentioned, like that, the time that we're in people are living a much longer time, like retired at 65 and dying at 90. It's a long time to not have a J-O-B, right? So it would be really cool to chat with you, because like being it till we see it means including what we want to be. How do we want to be when we're older and not doing the thing we're doing? How do we want to be in retirement? So let's dive into that a little bit.Gregg Lunceford 9:06  Sure, so a couple things I want to cover off on. It was like one, how did we get here? And I think you've already touched on that. The fact is, we're living longer. And so if you are looking at a retirement maybe 50 years ago, when people really started to expire in their late 60s and their 70s. What occurred was you got to 65 and the system told you 65 is the number. Why does this arbitrary number was picked one day when they were trying to figure out Social Security, they said it was 65 is the number, right? And so you come out at that period of time, and you only have just a few healthy years in front of you, or at least you anticipate you only have a few healthy years. So what came out was this concept of a bucket list. So I am going to use these healthy years to travel, play all the golf I can, and have all this leisure that I can before I am too physically unable to do this or mentally unable to do this. And so couple things were wrong there, as it relates to our retirement 21st century. One, we're living longer, so you're going to be physically and mentally able to do something for a long period of time. So if you don't sort of set goals for yourself and see what you can be in the futurem you're going to get bored really, really quickly, and you're going to start to decline very quickly, simply because you're absent of certain things, purpose and drive and and goals and accomplishment. You know, it's more than just a couple rounds of golf that are going to make you happy. And so what I think people don't understand is we are now living in a period of time where it used to be you went from your youth to middle age and to old age. And so this transition from middle age to old age was about that 60 mark, right? And so people just basically said, I have no more control. The system is going to do what it does to me. I'm going to be booted out of my job. I'm going to be sent off to do leisure. I guess that means I play with my grandchildren or volunteer, and I'll just follow suit. And what happened is a lot of people found themselves doing things that weren't rewarding to them. Now we're in a new era, because we live longer. And what is present now is what is called, in academic terms, the Third Age. So you now go from early age to middle age to this Third Age, which is this undefined period, and today's retirees are the first people to go on this, and then you go on the old age, and the Third Age is this 20 year life bonus, where you get to define who and what you want to be. And think about it, you're wiser than you ever been. For most people, you have more financial resources than you ever had. You don't have a commitment to other people, meaning you've raised your children so you don't have to worry about them. Hopefully you're in a position where you don't have to care for aging loved ones, right? So this is a period of time where you can do anything and everything you always wanted to do. And people go, well, what didn't I have the opportunity to do whatever I wanted to do? Not quite, because remember when we were growing up, and those before us were growing up, we were kind of encouraged to do things that were socially acceptable. Rght? Lesley Logan 11:02  I agree. Gregg Lunceford 9:07  It wasn't until recent decades where someone says, I'm going to start a computer company out of my garage. I'm going to drop out of college and do something that's undefined and pioneer so the current generations, entering into into retirement, have never developed this proactive protein behavior the way maybe millennials and Generation Z has.Lesley Logan 12:54  I completely agree. Because, like, I, I mean, I feel very lucky that even though I was raised very much by, like, almost a Boomer and and a hippie like, I do have a career where I am doing whatever I want. I'm an elder millennial, so I have that, but I have friends who are just a few years older than me, and I don't think that they have a they don't have hobbies. If they have a hobby, it's going to the gym. You know what I mean? Like, it's like they don't really have things so outside of their work, it's like, what do you do for fun? Are you kidding? Like there's no and so I feel like what you're getting at is, like, no one has actually spent time thinking like, but what do I actually want? How can I dream about that, right? How can I make that so exciting that that I want to take a retirement package or that I'm excited to I have this I'm not just like, oh, let me go play golf three times a week. Like, what else? I have no purpose. I think it's really fascinating that that there is a good chunk of, like, I would say, probably over 45 who don't really, they're exploring it, but don't know. And how do you figure that out?Gregg Lunceford 13:59  So let me ask you a question. Lesley, what is your earliest memory? Or how about how old do you think you were when someone first asked you what you wanted to be when you grow up?Lesley Logan 14:09  I remember being in elementary school, and I'm sure it was asked of me earlier, because people have told me that I said something different earlier. But I remember in fourth grade, I had to, like, write a poem about who I was and what like, what did it feel like, and what did it sound like, and what did it look like. And I said, a judge, you guys, that should shock everyone.Gregg Lunceford 14:36  My point is so since age 10, someone has been helping you develop your work identity. So people were asking you at home or in your neighborhood or a church or wherever you socialize, what you're going to be then you're going to go to a middle school and you're at the high school and they're going to assign a counselor, going to start telling you to think about college or trade school or whatever it is. Is then you got to get into career. And then whatever career you get in, maybe you're assigned a mentor that's helping you understand or think about how to advance in that career. And then you get to this point where maybe you're like late 40s or 50s. And does anybody help you figure out what your identity will be after work. Lesley Logan 15:22  No, as you're saying this. Gregg Lunceford 15:24  You're on your own. You're on your own. And the only thing that was different here is when they put you into that position where you were felt forced into retirement, right? And then there was also a safety net there in the form of a pension that doesn't exist the way it once did, and there were other government safety nets that may not exist the way they once did before, when they put you there, you just said, okay, I'll accept it, because I'm only going to be around five years anyway. So let me work on this bucket list, but you never really thought about and I think people don't really dig into thinking about what the value of work is, beyond the financial resources it provides. So they get to the tail end of their career, and some people may not even think about it anyway, either. So career, because you've spent all this time having these conversations, you start developing this identity because your work, you become what your work is, right? And so, so a lot of people look at the economic resources it provides, but work also provides for us ways to get psychological success. Who doesn't like completing a task and getting recognition, and if you're in a good working environment, right? Everyone says, Let's applaud Lesley because she did this for the team which created this opportunity for the company, which created this value that she should be recognized for, right? So that that's very important, that gives you a reason to get out of bed, that gives you a reason to thrive, and that has some value when you walk out of the work environment. How do you replace that when you go into this third age? The second thing is, work provides socialization. No matter what you think about your work colleagues, if you like them, that's great. They give you somebody that you want to see every day, that you become personal friends with, that you grow with, that you learn to care about. If you hate them, they give you something to laugh about at the end of the day. You know what that idiot Bob did today again, right? That gives that gives you more than you think, right? And so work provides socialization. And then the third thing that work provides that we often overlook is structure in your day. What to do with your time, right? And so for a lot of people, when they don't have somewhere to go, something to do that makes them feel accomplished, and people to be around that they enjoy or either get some form of comical satisfaction from, they're lost when you put them out there on their own. And so what I learned and through my research is this transition for a lot of people, is the first career transition that they've made independently, and it is scary. Lesley Logan 18:08  Yeah. I mean, when you put all that together and I'm just like, going, wow, you know, people aren't it, one of the questions we've got on the pod is like, how do you make friends as a note when you move to a new place? It's like, I mean, for us, we work for ourselves. So, like, we didn't have a place to go to make, you know, so I, my husband and I have a different experience in, like, how to find socialization and structure to our day. And, you know, like we've had to make it happen. But for so many you know, my dad, he quit his he quit his security job. Yes, guys, my 72 year old father was a security guard, but he quit it because he got frustrated. Anyways, he is back working as a crosswalk guard because he's like, I'm bored. I have nothing to do, and I'm like, but dad, we could get a hobby. We could play these game like, all this stuff. And it's because he never, ever, ever in his whole life, did anyone ever encourage developing the skills outside of work.Gregg Lunceford 19:06  Developing a retirement identity, right, developing a retirement identity. And what also makes it hard is, you know, when you are developing a retirement identity, like I said, this is your first shot at personal freedom in life. Okay, when you're growing up, you had to do what your parents told you to do. Then you became an adult, and then you had all these set of responsibilities. And so you were doing what people told you you ought to do. You were really working on your art self. So if you're going to have a family, you ought to find a job that produces enough income, you know. So you didn't really think about ideally what you wanted to do. And what is really amazing to me is I've interviewed some highly successful people that do amazing things, and when I start talking to them about forming their ideal self, the stuff they come up with is so counter to what what and who they are. It is. Is amazing to me. So I get cancer surgery or successful attorneys or engineers to say I want to learn how to write mystery novels, or I want to start a rock band. And so what it points to me, and what it what comes out to me is these are probably things that they wanted to do in the 10, in their teens, in their early 20s, all along, but they couldn't do that because society told them these are not the things a person ought to do. You know, if they want stability in terms of income, if they want respect in their community, if they want you know, the structure that around it allows them to have a family and not have to worry about things. And so now you get to this third age, and I saw all off the table. You're wiser than you've ever been. You have more financial resources than you've ever had. You know, you have more personal freedom. Now you get to, really, for the first time, work on who your ideal self, not your ought self, who you want to be. And if you get it right, you're the only person you have to hold accountable. If you get it wrong, you're the only person you have to hold accountable. And so some people go, well, Greg, what does it have to do with money? I think people who don't take time to find this identity burn through a lot of money trying to find themselves. Right? And so, when I first started this journey, I was trying to find a cohort of individuals that had finished their career, achieved financial success and had 30 years ahead of them. And what were their behaviors, and where you consistently see this is with professional athletes, right? You're out of the game early. Right? You're in your 30s, and you're Tom Brady, you're 40, but that's the long game. But you're really out in your late 20s, your early 30s, you don't have financial concerns, right? And what is the behavior? And sometimes we demonize athletes for dysfunctional behavior after Hey, but all they're showing us is who we are going to be if we don't develop a retirement identity.Lesley Logan 22:09  Yes, Greg, you are 100% correct there. I think most people, think most people will say they don't know how to manage their money and and to your research and what we've been talking about here, it's not about managing money it's about they don't know who they are without their sport because they spent, for those people, they spent, literally, since they were a child in that sport and getting so many accolades, and then all of a sudden, no one cares. No one pays attention to them. For the most part, they're not going to be on TV like, that's it. And so I think it, I think you're spot on. It's not about the money responsibility, although they might need to learn some. It's about who, who are they now that they're not playing.Gregg Lunceford 22:50  Right and so then you go, well, this athlete just went broke because they put all this money in his business. Well, they're trying to get the same accolades in business they got in sports, right? They're trying to replace that identity that made them feel good, made them feel accomplished and some people are very successful at it. Those aren't. But my point is, there has to be a road map to get that yes, and it doesn't always have to be in business. It could be in your civic activities. It could be you learning to act, or you become in sport, but you have to first of all imagine who your ideal self is. And just like you were coached and you read and you trained to build that ought self, hopefully, for some people, a lot of people, the ought self is their ideal self, and they're usually entrepreneurs like you, where you that you know what, I'm not going to go to normal path. I'm going to carve a path for myself, and entrepreneurship gives me that freedom. But for a lot of people, they have to figure out now that I've satisfied all these obligations to other people and other things, who do I ideally want to be and then work at how do I get there? Because if you go in there blindly, you're just the same as that person out of that was in sports or any other industry, you're just trying to find this quick hit to replace all of these accolades or psychological successes you got. And you can blow up a lot of money doing that. So the well being comes from getting all of these components right, not just as we were taught in the 20th century, just making sure you don't run out of money. Lesley Logan 24:26  Gregg, this is insane. So okay, so I love all of this. And it's, it's, it's like, so aligned, because I'm always like, can't be you're not gonna get right the first time. Like, we have to ditch perfection, which, of course, in workplace, it's very honed. Like, check the box. Do it right. Do it right. So you have to talk to the boss about how you did it wrong. Like, get it right. Like, so of course, when you, when you retire, if you haven't been working on these things, you're you're going to be hard on you're going to take your ought self into your retirement. So I guess, like, first of all, I don't think that most financial retirement planners do any of these questions. So when, if, when people come to you talk retirement, are you like pulling are you like asking them what their ideal, what they want their ideal self to be? Do they even know how to find it? What questions do they have to ask themselves? Gregg Lunceford 25:13  Well, we do have. We have. We have a lot of conversation about, you know, not only can you financially afford it, we can put some numbers of software and come up with that answer pretty quickly, right? But we also have a conversation about, what do you think your lifestyle will be, and why do you think this is right for you? And what do you want to accomplish? And you know, some folks will come in and say, hey, I think I want to start a small business, right? And so we might talk about them, and they don't want they don't want work again in the way they want it, but they want something to do that is work on their own terms. So a lot of this is you changing the terms of what you're doing and because when we go, especially if we go to work for a corporation or some that's usually a unilateral contract, right? The person the institution is telling you, I'll give you X amount of dollars if you do this. And you say, but what if I did a little different? No, you don't get a choice in that. This is what you got to do, right? And what we're recognizing is we do have some power in that. We do have some power. I've seen a lot of people be successful in going back to their places of work and negotiating consulting contracts. And they basically said, you know, I don't want to do nine to five, but if you have a special project that you bring on, let's say you bring you on new software, whatever, and this is going to be a nine-month project, or it's going to be something you need few hours, you know, out of the week and but I get the summers off. I'm your person for doing that. And that's how they're able to get from their ought self into their ideal self, because the time that they're not there, they now start to figure out what their personal freedom, what they really like to do. So I think of one person now, he was very successful at this, but he also was confident enough talking to his employer, because he was the head of HR, so he knew he was a little bit more comfortable. But basically what he did was he got to this point, and he was ready to make this transition now, but he didn't know what he wanted to do. So he went to and he said, look, I'm the head of HR, I got 70 people reporting to me. I'm willing to give all of my direct reports to my successor. If you help me, let me help you identify my successor, and help me groom your successor. So his role became more of coach, manager, mentor, in this last couple of years, and that was three days a week. He said the other day a week. These are institutions, nonprofit institutions, that we, as an organization, support. I want one day to volunteer with one of them, and so now they get a free executive for one day a week. That was great for the company. Worked out well. He said, then the fifth day of the week, I just want a day off. I want to see if I really enjoy leisure. Everyone tells me I'm supposed to play all these rounds of golf and lay back and relax. Let me make sure that that's the right thing for me. So he has three days a week that he is engaging in what he traditionally knows in terms of what his identity is. He has one day a week to see if he wants to change his identity in his community through his volunteerism, and he has one day a week to figure out if I just want to exit all together. And the answer is, you can do one of the three of those. You can continue doing all of the three of those. What we have now is, if you shape them correctly, is we have what are called boundary-less careers. And so this is where I think, you know, we give Millennials a bad rap. We give millennials a bad rap because we always say, well, they like to do a gig economy. They don't stay anywhere 30 years. But what they're really engaging in is today's boundary-less career, where they define success for themselves, versus going down the traditional path, which says you can only be successful by going up the pyramid. For them is, you know what? I can be equally financially successful. I can gig here, gig there, and add it all together, or I can and get this personal freedom and know how to negotiate so that I'm spending more time, just as much time developing my ideal self as I'm developing my ought self.Lesley Logan 29:21  Oh my gosh, Gregg, you just like, I think you're the first person to ever give the millennials a compliment. But thank you. Constantly find myself defending, like, I'm like, what are we talking about? Like, we're not bad, we're we're a group that's how to really fight, like, figure things out. Because when we came into the world where we got a job, like, everything was so uncertain. You know, between 911 and between, that's when I went to college, and then I got out of college, and it was like the recession, like, there's not, there's not been an opportunity to have a certainty of a 30-year career. But I think what you're, what I'm, what I love about what your saying is, like, we've actually been spending our careers figuring out who we are, and like, spending time doing that. And I am obsessed with what the example of the guy you gave, because I think so many people can start playing with that right now. So many companies are looking to go to a four day work week, you know, like, so many places are looking to have like, Okay, you're in office for some days and you're at home for other days. Like, we can look at those opportunities as ways to figure out our retirement identity. Gregg Lunceford 30:22  Right. And a lot of us get stuck in this, oh, well, I work for this large corporation. They aren't flexible. There are a lot of small, medium sized companies that are in growth mode that that model works very well. That's what they can afford. And they need the institutional knowledge and the wisdom you got to be able to and this is where we go back to talking about boundary list careers. You got to think about all of the universe and parts of it you don't even know exist. This is where your personal curiosity has to kick in to get what you want. Lesley Logan 30:53  Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Gregg, so I feel like you are a unicorn though. Like, I really do feel like, because, I mean, obviously, what a cool company, that they're like, yeah, go, take four years to figure out this idea you have, and then, like.Gregg Lunceford 31:09  Well no, they weren't that cool. That's why I'm here. Lesley Logan 31:14  Okay, that's cool. Gregg Lunceford 31:15  I kind of, I took a lot of flack as I was doing this, and because people were going, we don't understand why you're doing thi, right, and you know, we don't really understand your need to do it. And there were a few key executives that said, you know, they were really supportive of me, but overall, it was, you know, I was sort of like I was trailblazing, and people were going, you you have a very good set of responsibilities here, that you could be highly successful. Why do you want to tinker with the mouse trap? And I said, I think this would make me a better advisor to my clients, if I, if I came to understand this now, back then, and, you know, there was no one talking about psychology. I'm a certified financial planner now, the CFP exam as of I think, like two, three years ago, 11% of the exam is psychology now. But I was, I was in a very uncomfortable space, but I believed I was right. So when you start talking about, you know, be it till you see it, right, I'd be, I was in a very uncomfortable space. And this is my book, Exit From Work, I write about it in my book, but I am glad I had the journey, because I feel as though I'm a better professional, and my clients appreciate it.Lesley Logan 32:21  Yeah. I mean, like, you know, years ago, I read the book Psychology of Money, right? I think that's what it's called, or maybe it's called profit, but I think that's money. And, like, I said, like, the type of person you have to be to get money is very different than the type of person you'd be to keep the money. And I was like, like, that's, by the way, that's, like, the thing I remember from the whole book, it's, but at any rate, I remember that sticking going, hold on a second. Like, we as people have to evolve, like, one on the getting, two on the keeping, and that goes kind of along with what you're saying. Like, you know, you have to understand the emotion psychology behind all of this. Because, yes, spreadsheets are great, but with AI, like, we don't need a bunch of people do a spreadsheet anymore. So there's that we need someone to help guide us to like, well, who is it like, where is this money going? What do you want to do with it? What like was also, what if, instead of like, okay, here comes our retirement age, what if it's like, oh my gosh, like, I can't even wait, or, actually, I'm going part time now, and my retirement is part time, and I'm doing all these other things. Like, that's so cool that you, I mean, you do that, it's not easy to be a trailblazer. It's not easy to be the only person talking about it, though. Gregg Lunceford 33:27  Right. It's rewarding in the end, and so, and I think a lot of people find it liberating, because if you got 20 years, you just really want to do what people tell you you ought to do. I mean, especially when you spent the first 60 doing that. And so really, what this third age is supposed to be. It's supposed to be the most dynamic part of your life, right? It is a way to course correct or either enhance something that's already gone well for you, versus a lot of people going to retirement, because that's what retirement was when it first started off, it was really this negotiation between management and labor, where, especially, we were in an industrial society. So labor was more physical, right now we're in a service economy, so it was really more cerebral. But back then, you know, they wanted a management wanted employees who could swing a hammer so many times a minute, and that was usually somebody under age 40, and this is where we start getting age protection laws, right. And anyone over 40 they wanted out of the workforce. So, you know, retirement didn't start off as this, oh, this is this great thing, and they're going to write me checks for the rest of my life. It didn't start off as that. It really started off as you were really making someone feel devalued because you you didn't have any and so we've gone along with this model. It wasn't until maybe, like the 19 late 70s or 1980s when we went into this global recession where people started getting offered these early retirement packages to come out of companies because globally, a lot of people, a lot of companies, had financial issues to deal with. And what they weren't expecting when they let this 55 year old go is that life expectancy was starting to go up, and so now this 55 year old is now living to 80, and they got the best end of the deal. And what is happening financially right now is people are looking at their parents and grandparents who got that deal, and they're going, I can never afford to do what they did, and not realizing that that was an anomaly. And so a lot of people, socially, emotionally, feel like they're failing, and they don't want to talk about retirement because they feel as though I'll never be able to do what the person did before me and therefore there must be something wrong with what I'm doing or what me and the reality is the game is changing, and so you actually have more personal freedom than they have. And just like they walked into a unique situation, you have to craft a unique situation for you that works.Lesley Logan 36:04  Yes, that, Gregg, this is, you're a historian. You're like a life coach and like the person we all need to be thinking about when it comes to like, because it doesn't matter how I mean, obviously we're told, like, the earlier you can start thinking about retirement, the better. But people don't want to do that, like I said the beginning of this. They want to put their head in the sand, like, I can't be my grandparents, so I'm just going to keep doing what I ought to do, and just and like, we'll deal with that later. We'll figure out the number later. But I think if we can, like, start thinking about it now, it really does allow us to curate the experience we have with work, but then also set ourselves up for that third age where we can have a really good time getting to know ourselves even deeper, and not not losing money along the way.Gregg Lunceford 36:51  That's correct, because in that third age, you may convert a hobby. So I have a friend who was in banking with me. He would always go take a week or two off every year and just go to Europe and backpack. He would stay at, you know, two three star hotels. He was like, I'm not there every day. And he would just go take the most amazing pictures he bring them back to the office. And we would go, Jim, you know, you should have an art show. And he was like, Nah, they're just hobbies or whatever. And he had a hard shell, and people started buying his art. And so, you know, now in retirement, you know his joy also produces income. And so he has defined work on his own terms. It doesn't even feel like work to him. And so what a lot of people who are looking at their parents and grandparents and then going, you know, they got this pension for life, and they don't offer pensions anymore, and they didn't get sandwiched. So they didn't have the burden, financial burden of raising kids and having to take care of parents. I'm stuck. I'll never be able to do that. There's something wrong you don't understand. You now have this 20 year life bonus, where you can learn to gig, you can learn to I often point to the show The Golden Girls. I don't know if the creators of the show knew what they were doing or they intentionally did this, but look at that model. I think that's the model a lot of people are going to have to go to. And I think you touched on this a little bit earlier. You start talking about your father and your in laws. And you know, we don't have kinship the way we once did, once small, we have smaller families, right? Two, geographically we disperse, right? And so what in this planning process of your ideal self, what you also have to learn how to do is to replace kinships with friendships. So that's what was going on in that in that Golden Girls house, you had Dorothy and her mother, Sophia, that had a kinship, but where they didn't have kinship, they replaced it with their roommates with Blanche and Betty (inaudible). And so now that you have this replacement of family that you trust and you get along with, now you got four people to split your rent with, so that makes the money go longer, right? Yeah, then you start talking about what went on every day. Well, sometimes they were doing volunteer work, and then they had to spin off where they bought a hotel. So they basically were doing their own version of a gig economy, right? They were engaging as much as they wanted to or not. Then they had socialization from each other. There was always something going on in that house, right? Yes. And so, right? And then they had things to create psychological success. So I don't know if the creators of the show recognized at the time, but to me, I looked at it as sort of foreshadowing what people have to create for themselves on their own with this life bonus, and it will help them both financially, as well as their mental and their mental well being. Lesley Logan 40:00  Gregg, yes. I mean, I joke with my friends who have kids. I'm like, I just want you to know that your kid is gonna have to take care of me because I don't have kids. But really, actually, I just need to find my Golden Girls, my husband. I just need to find a co op, a little commune of all of our friend all of our friends who don't have kids, we actually like what we're being with. And we could have a great little retirement home, maybe make it a BnB. This what I what I just I'm obsessed with, and why I got excited to have you on is, you know, oftentimes the Be It Till You See It podcast really talks about, like, what we can do right now, like, for right now, what we can do to be it till we see it tomorrow, or for the thing we want next year. Or there might be some stuff I have never thought of it as like, what can we be doing right now to be it till we see it for retirement in a way that we can choose, like we get the life is literally what we want, and the research you've done, the education you've had, and how you've literally seen it implemented in unique ways, because of all this work, is so cool. It makes me excited to actually, like, look into that future. Because, like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not gonna look past 50, because I got things to do with my job, with the job that I created for myself. It's like, oh, hold on a second. What, like, what can I be playing with right now so that I know what I'm gonna do past 50, so that I have something to look forward to. So I'm excited about it. So, Gregg, what are you most excited about right now?Gregg Lunceford 41:20  I'm excited about I'm writing and researching and learning about the person I'm becoming. So and so I often joke with my clients, but I'm really not joking. They'll come back and they'll tell me some amazing experience they had, and I always tell them, leave me a list of notes so I know where to start when it comes to my time, and I say that jokingly, but it's something it is serious. What we all need to start to focus on right now is just like we had that career guidance counselor helping us and coaching us. And to that next thing, we need to start taking time to figure out that action plan for that next thing. And once you start to figure out I need to form a retirement identity and understand my ideal self, you start to self motivate and become excited about it. So what I really enjoy about what I've done through my work, whether it be here as an advisor or through my research, is that I'm helping people understand that they have a lot to be encouraged by, right? You're going to get 20 years to do whatever it is you want to do. And what I also want people to be understanding of. You don't have to leave the workforce if you're doing something awesome already. Just keep doing it. And if you want to modify that in some kind of way, figure out a plan, or figure out your terms and how to negotiate those terms. Say you can do that. Lesley Logan 42:51  Oh, I just like each answer. I just get more excited for people. I'm excited for myself. Like, I'm like, wow, this is so fun. We're gonna take a brief break and then find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you and your Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 43:00  Okay, Gregg, where can they connect with you? You have a book, Exit From Work, but where, where can they go to chat with you, work with you like, get more ideas about their retirement identity?Gregg Lunceford 43:14  Sure, so I can be reached at mesirow.com so our website, M-E-S-I-R-O-W dot com, on that, if you put in my name in our search engine, Gregg Lunceford, you'll come up with my team web page. We'll have my bio, my contact information, also a list of all my publications. Also, if you're interested in my book, Exit From Work. This can be found on amazon.com, and I'm always encouraged by people who take time to drop me a note, or we didn't even go into I talked about the Golden Girls situation. We didn't even go into their academically based retirement communities. Now, basically, instead of dormitory you lived in when you were in your late teens and 20s, now people are going back to retire near where they went to school. So they now have, because we don't have these kinships, they're now bracing building friendships based on the fact that they're alumni, or they love the school and and so it's sort of like this, you were living in the Golden Girls subdivision, maybe. Lesley Logan 44:15  Oh, my God. Gregg Lunceford 44:15  So there are all kinds of things that are going on right now, and I just, I write about it in my book too. I just want people to learn about that so they don't feel as though they're confined to what they saw their parents do. Lesley Logan 44:27  Yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh, Brad, when you listen to this, we'll choose your school, because he went to music school, so we'll choose that one.Gregg Lunceford 44:37  He could, he could probably teach all the people I know they want to start a rock band. Lesley Logan 44:41  Yeah, yeah, yeah, him and his buddies. That could be their whole little they would love it. Okay, you've given us a lot, but I do want to dive into the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?Gregg Lunceford 44:56  Okay, so what you first have to do is you have to create a vision. And if you have a partner, it is very important that that be a shared vision. The last thing we want to do is get to the end of our career and then have conflict with our partner. And a lot of that happens because most couples do not talk about retirement. They don't even know if the other partners is saving for retirement. Like 40% couples don't even talk about this. Don't even do the calculation to get past them. So so if you haven't even done the basics on that end, talking about this thing you aspire to be is very difficult because And so last thing you want to do is you both jump in it, and then you you're stuck and you're unhappy. So create a vision. If you have a partner, make sure that's a shared vision. And then start talking about goals. Engage someone like myself, who's a financial planning professional, to help you see how you can align your financial wherewithal with those goals. And then think differently. Think about being your best self at this stage, not being someone who society just said it's time for you to leave, because that's not the case. You have more value to offer a lot of people than you think.Lesley Logan 46:07  I do, I love that. This is an episode I really hope my in-laws actually listen to. I really am. I'm actually just really excited for even our our listeners who who are like, you know, they might be in there. They might be, like, 15, 20 years away from retirement, but, or even 10, but, like, we have a bunch of them, and I hope this helps them rethink that, because I think sometimes there's a fear to, oh, my God, you know. And you just said it like being the system has told them that they're done, but you're not done. And so I just you've given, like, so much excitement around this topic, and joy and possibility. So Gregg, thank you for being you. You all, how are you going to use these tips in your life? We want to know. Make sure you tell Gregg Lunceford your takeaways. I'm sure it will make his day. Share this with friend who needs to hear it, that friend who's like, so worried all the time, like, absolutely needs this. And you know what to do until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 47:01  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Celebrating wins is not about ego—it is about visibility and honoring the work you are doing, even when it feels uncomfortable to say out loud. Lesley Logan shares the powerful and often-overlooked story of Rosalind Franklin, using it as a reminder of what can happen when contributions go unclaimed. From a meaningful community win to a personal birthday mindset shift, this FYF episode encourages you to stop playing small and let yourself be known for the work you're doing. Because when people can see your work, they can actually be helped by it. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Rosalind Franklin's uncredited role in discovering DNA.How her research was used and published without permission.A community win from Ainsley sparked by taking action together.Lesley's reflection on why talking about your work matters.How a new birthday theme restored excitement around celebrating.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsHer Wiki - https://www.instagram.com/p/DQOCW0ajNNYThe Art of Gathering by Priya Parker - https://a.co/d/8WYiDU0 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:44  Hi, Be It babe. Happy birthday weekend. Well, it's my birthday weekend. Is it your birthday weekend? I know a lot of Aquarians. Hi. It's actually a Fuck Yeah Friday episode, and that means we celebrate wins that you've sent in, a win of mine. We start to see how wins can exist everywhere, and a little mantra for our weekend. So, first, have to do the inspiration. First have to do inspiration. I am so sorry. It's my own show, and I forgot my own order, also laughing to myself, because I actually went in to do this, and then got distracted with my ADHD, and then then I got distracted, and now I'm here. So welcome. Welcome to a podcast with someone with ADHD. You know, we're just we're just making it work. Lesley Logan 1:26  Okay, so here we go. Here's the inspiration that I found, and I this is really cool. Oh, this is really cool. So excited. This blew my mind, and I'm so excited to share with you. 70 years ago, a woman discovered the structure of DNA, but two Cambridge men stole her work and won the Nobel Prize. She was erased from history and died of cancer. This is a story of the biggest theft in science, and its main character, Rosalind Franklin. So at the King's College in London, a brilliant young scientist made groundbreaking discoveries about DNA structure. Her name was Rosalind Franklin, using advanced X ray crystallography, she captured the clearest images of DNA ever seen inside the famous photo 51 and here's why it was important. And you can get this on her Wiki org. Photo 51 was revolutionary. So there's an image of this like, you know, it looks kind of like a baseball. After 100 hours of X ray exposure had showed clear X patterns that suggest a helical structure. Franklin has already concluded that DNA likely had a regular, repeating structure, but was meticulously gathering more and more data before publishing. On January 30th 1953 the theft that changed biology occurred in a dimly lit King's College London office. Maurice Wilkins took out a folder containing Photo 51, Franklin's clearest X ray image of DNA, and showed it to James Watson. When Watson saw the photo, he reportedly became so excited he could barely concentrate. The X pattern was precisely what he and Crick needed. He rushed back to Cambridge, sketching the image from memory on a newspaper during his train ride. Within hours of returning, Watson and Crick began building their now famous metal model of DNA. They use Franklin's precise measurements from Photo 51 data, they had no permission to access, determine the exact dimensions of their model. Their paper announcing DNA structure was published on April 25th 1953. Franklin's own paper appeared on the same issue. However, it was placed third after Watson and Crick's despite containing the critical experimental evidence that proved their model, Franklin's only credit, a brief acknowledgement of having been stimulated by general knowledge of her work. The reality, without her Photo 51 and unpublished analysis, Watson and Crick would have been discovered months or years behind. Discovery would have been months or years behind. The final result came. Final insult, excuse me, came in 1962 Watson Crick and Wilkins shared the Nobel Prize in Medicine. Rosalind Franklin never saw that recognition. She died of ovarian cancer in 1958 at just 37 years old, likely caused by her extensive work with X ray radiation, Franklin's story is evidence of disturbing pattern science. Women's contributions get being minimized, credit taken by male colleagues, critical discoveries going unrecognized. Even Watson's 1968 book the double helix portrayed her dismissively, the truth emerged slowly over decades, her X ray work was crucial. Without Photo 51 no DNA model. Her mathematical analysis was pioneering. Her experimental techniques were groundbreaking. Today, Franklin is finally being recognized multiple buildings and programs named after her. Her face on medical walls, books document her achievements a Mars rover named Rosalind, but she never knew her true impact. Rosalind Franklin died, never knowing she'd helped unlock one of science greatest mysteries, but our rigorous methods, brilliant mind and dedication to truth exemplify what genius really means. I just think, you know, I mean, like, it's, how is it like? Is that positive? Like, now we recognize her and we didn't before, and I just think that, like, sometimes it's really, I think the moral is like, yay. Well, not the moral, but first of all, yay that we celebrate her, and yay now that we know this. And also you're gonna do some crazy amazing things, and someone else is gonna get a win, and it can suck so much, and it hurts, and so first of all, brag about what you're fucking doing. Do it. Brag about it, and I know that word is, like, really hard for a lot of us, women over a certain age, because we were told, like, never to brag, to be quiet, like it's actually ugly and it's not attractive, to brag and you have an ego. Bullshit. No. People need to know the work that you're doing and the work that you're working on so that you you can be the person known for it, right, for the things that you're doing, and I definitely struggle with that a lot. And luckily, like having to put myself out there has really helped me realize that, like, the impact that I'm making is is incredible, and the people who are impacted are doing amazing things that are impacting others, and it's a domino effect. So who am I to play small not talk about the things I'm doing, because then people who need the help that I have don't get it. People who need the help that you have don't get it, they don't know. So brag about yourself a little bit. And I, I love what Rosalind Franklin did, and I just there are, I encourage you, like if you're needing a bit of inspiration, and just like someone to help you, like, get yourself up and keep going, is find books that celebrate the women in history, because there's so many we didn't learn about because they didn't tell us, didn't tell us. So we have to go after it. Go look at it. Lesley Logan 6:33  All right. Let's get to some wins of yours. Here we go. This one is from, oh, it's our lovely Ainsley. My win's from San Fran. These photos pretty much sum it up, having so much fun in San Francisco, going to different studios with Jennifer Maison, a road trip to Sacramento with a show around at the Balanced Body headquarters by lovely Paul, chatting about our Cambodia times, they were all at the retreat in Cambodia together, and then the sushi adventures with Christine Kam-Lynch. Lesley, thank you for bringing us all together. You have dreams of creating community, and your dreams are making our dreams come true, sending me on adventures that would honestly explode my imagination if you would tell me three years ago that this is what I'd be doing. I trusted your process, and this is wild. Thank you. It was an incredible five days. PS, Lesley, I've only just seen the video sent to you. It was birthday margaritas. I'm so freaking proud of you, Ainsley, I'm so freaking proud of you. You know what's fun is, like, even if you had told me, like, if I had been told, like, oh, like, in five, in three years, I'm gonna be doing this, like, I'd be like, okay, great, I love this. Let's figure out we're gonna do it right, like I would believe it, and I'd still be wowed when it happened, because like so few people do what they say they're gonna do, so few people put the work in. I am so obsessed with all that agency and eLevate and OPC members do, because I know they're a fraction of the people out there who will actually do what they said they're going to do. They're a fraction. And so when they do it, I am so freaking excited for them. I love guiding people. You know, you thank me so much, and I, and I do take all of that, I receive all that gratitude. Because seven, well, gosh, how long has eLevate been around, Agency been around? Agency's been around since 2018. Eight years. Like, eight years ago, I didn't know what I was creating, but I knew what I wanted to create. And sitting here reading this win, I get to go, it's like a win for me too, because I get to go, wow. Like we did it. We created this community that expands continents, and people meet up with each other, and they take action, and I'm just so I'm just so stoked for you guys. I like, can't even get the words out. I'm so freaking stoked reliving that win, and though that video was so fun, and reliving what you're doing and but also, like, you have to be proud of what you're doing, because it's actually when I bring people together that isn't easy. But like, it's easy for you, right? Like, I bring people but you guys have to take the next step. You guys had to plan the trip and take the action, and you guys had to commit to it. And then amidst all that was going on, all of your lives still show up and do it. So many people won't, because there's a should have, could have, maybe I should be doing this instead. I'm just like, Thank you for celebrating this win with us, because I know you're inspiring other people to take action and allow themselves to be surprised by what could happen in just a short period of time, just three years, right? We think that's so long and it's so short, I can't believe it's only been three years since we've been doing this. So thank you. Lesley Logan 9:32  Okay, my win. So it's my birthday on Monday, (inaudible). I'm so excited about it, and I know I've celebrated past birthdays, like, I'm like, I love that like, I don't even care that. I'm like, it's another year on the book. It's like, it's like, so fun. But I will say, like, before Covid, I had the most fun birthday parties, and I loved it. And then after covid, you know, there just wasn't a lot of ways to, like, gather people together. Like, I had my first in-person birthday in Vegas. It was my second birthday here, and it was, I was looking at pictures about, like, I don't even know who these people are, because I didn't, I didn't know people. So like, just random people showed up, and that was a win. But then the 2023 and 2024, 2025, I just, 2025, I had, I actually, actually did have a birthday party, and that was really fun. But 2022, 2023 and 2024 I just really wasn't excited to celebrate my birthday. And it's not because I wasn't excited to get older. It's not because I was like, oh, like, I just was like, I just want to be on a vacation. I'm just a little tired. And that's because, like, as the business was growing and we thought we prepared ourselves for the growth of the business, you reflect and refine and go, oh, I should have been two months ahead, not just one month ahead. I should have been like, so you learn from these things, right? But it can take a year to put those new changes to effect. We always want things to happen tomorrow. That's just not how it goes, right? Like, some things do take time. At any rate, I would get to my birthday and I'm just like, I just don't even have the time for the invitations. I just don't even have the time to plan. I just want to, like, spa life. I just want to go to Mexico, like, so I did those things, right? And I'm proud of I'm proud of everything I did. I have great celebrations. But I really did want to have, like, a fun birthday. And I wanted to go back to having fun birthdays and excitement. Last year's was actually a great time. And so I'm like, oh, I remember how great these were. So Priya Parker, I think I told this as, like, an inspirational thing. Priya Parker had posted, she's the author of The Art of Gatherings, great book. And she posted, you know, this thing of, like, dressing for the wrong party party. And so I was like, I'm obsessed with this. Because first of all, everyone who has a January birthday or a late December birthday knows like, no one is excited for your birthday. Some people are doing dry January. Some people are broke because they just got their credit card bill from their holiday. Some people are sick. Like, it's just not like, not the thing. So I definitely have been like, there needs to be a reason to come. And I don't know if this will be an annual theme, because I don't know if people get bored with it, but I freaking love it. I love it. So I threw myself a dress for the wrong party party. It's happening this weekend, so I can't tell you what everyone dressed like, or what I dress up like, because now that it's like, I can dress however I want. I might change my outfit, I don't even know, but I have made the invites. I've sent them out. I have excitedly done it, not reluctantly done it. And so my win is I just found a way to get excited about the thing that I wanted to do, and I just wanted to share that with you, because, like, maybe it's not your birthday, but maybe there's like, things in your life that you know you want to do, but like, there's not an excitement around it. And I encourage you to figure out, like, what is, what is the thing that's surrounding the thing that you want to do that's blocking you from excitement? My, my win I think I just needed a new theme to do the birthday, and it made me so excited to do it. So that's my win. I did it. I no longer. I'm like, oh, it's my birthday. I guess I'll throw something together like I am freaking having a good time. And my husband, if he's listening to this, would go, we're having a good time. There's a funny comedian who does that. And so anyways, if you know him, then you'll have to. Lesley Logan 12:58  All right, my love and affirmation for you to take with you on my birthday weekend, I am complete as I am, others simply support me. I am complete as I am, others simply support me. I am complete as I am, others simply support me. Babe, you are complete as you are, and we are here to support you. So until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 13:23  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 14:06  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 14:11  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 14:15  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 14:22  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 14:26  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell unpack the conversation with Pav Lertjitbanjong, founder of Pavness Leadership Lab, and why job security is an illusion for most people. They explore what it really means to build career resilience so you feel less anxious about change and more confident in your options. The conversation also highlights the three key numbers Pav says everyone should know to create stability in uncertain times. If you've been waiting to feel secure before making a move, this episode is a reminder that security is something you build. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. 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Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Understanding career resilience as knowing your value beyond a job title.How emotional clarity reduces fear during career uncertainty.Understanding the role financial numbers play in personal stability.How strategic debt can support long-term financial stability.Why maintaining client relationships protects income for entrepreneurs.Episode References/Links:Cambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsPOT in London - https://xxll.co/potSpring Training: How To Get Overhead - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Posters - https://opc.me/postersSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsLayoff-Proof Your Life Emergency Checklist - https://www.layoffready.com/emergencykitPav Lertjitbanjong's Website - https://www.pavness.comEp. 352: Tess Waresmith - https://beitpod.com/tesswaresmith If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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And I think sometimes people go, oh, my ability to stay in this job is their decision when it's actually your decision. Lesley Logan 0:18  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Brad Crowell 1:01  Take it away. Lesley Logan 1:03  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the purposeful convo I had with Pav Lertjitbanjong in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now, go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. Yeah. Do both. You got time. You can also put it on a 1.5 speed. I mean, we talk fast, but you can still understand us.Brad Crowell 1:26  Yeah. I mean, it's gonna be awesome. It was actually a great, very transparent convo is the right way to say it.Lesley Logan 1:33  I would say so I actually really appreciate, like, having someone be so honest about the transition that they're on. I don't think enough people share that. And so I think that was a beautiful gift for everyone listening. Because otherwise you just listen, people got their shit together, and you're like, oh, they got it all together. And it's like, well, you know, they they have it looks that way, but it's a journey.Brad Crowell 1:53  Yeah. And I think, I think the idea of preparing to step away from a job is always a win, you know, to have it together on the inside. So that's good. Anyway. What is today?Lesley Logan 2:04  Yes, well, today is January 22nd. It's four days until my birthday, everyone. Brad Crowell 2:09  What? Lesley Logan 2:09  Yeah, but that's not what today is. Today is January 22nd 2026 and it's Roe Versus Wade Day. Roe Versus Wade Day is celebrated on January 22nd, the anniversary of the court case that gave women agency over their bodies. And here we go. The US Supreme Court made a ruling that legalized abortion throughout the country, with variations from state to state depending on the length of the pregnancy, no matter what your opinion is on the controversial abortion debat,e should not be fucking controversial, and it does matter what your opinion is. But here we go. Roe Versus Wade Day marked a pivotal turn in US history, the anniversary of landmark court decision celebrated by people everywhere, especially by women. Unfortunately, on Friday, June 24th 2022 the Supreme Court overturned Roe Versus Wade, the landmark piece of legislation that made access to abortion a federal right in the United States. The decision dismantled 50 years of legal protection paved the way for individual states to curtail or outright ban abortion rights. My loves. Brad Crowell 2:59  Which is happening. Lesley Logan 3:01  It's happening. It's happened. People, women are losing their ability to have have babies because they can't get what they need. The biggest thing if you, if you're like, uncomfortable with the word abortion, and I get that because if you were raised religious, you probably were raised and it's like, the worst thing anyone can do. And like all these women regret it. I can't speak for these people. What I can say is, men get to go to every fucking state in the country, and their rights don't change. But if I go to different states, my rights do change. And for the majority of the listeners, you go to a different state, your rights do change. And it's just really pisses me off that we don't have like that we're constantly fighting for equality in this capacity. And what this means is hospitals and doctors in the areas where there is not abortion available will have less experience and less understanding about what to do when a mother needs it. And if you try to tell me, in case of like, the healthcare of the mother, the doctors are so scared and they will have to answer questions. Brad Crowell 3:59  That they're not helping the mother.Lesley Logan 4:01  That they're that they're not so we have to wait till women go septic, yeah, which is the worst you you are lucky if you come back from that a normal person. So it just really pisses me off, because this is not a this should not be a fucking law. This is a health right.Brad Crowell 4:15  So as of November of this year, 2025, 12 states have near abortion bans, or for all intents and purposes, abortion bans in place. Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and West Virginia. Lesley Logan 4:32  Was Idaho on there? Brad Crowell 4:33  Idaho is on there. And addition, North Dakota has a near total ban that was recently revived in the state's Supreme Court, which makes it a felony to perform an abortion, except in limited medical emergency or cases of rape and incest. And that's the problem. The problem is the limited medical emergencies, and that's never clear. And so regardless of whether or not the doctor knows that that's what needs to happen, the hospital is basically saying, don't, don't do it because they're gonna get. Yeah or the doctors themselves are worried about it, because, you know, like, in Texas, they're like, going after doctors. It's nuts.Lesley Logan 5:09  There's okay. So I saw something recently, and I'm hopefully, as I as I say out loud, I'll get it right. So because some states are trying to grab doctors from other states that are helping women access abortion, right? Like some doctors from New York can send medications to people in different states and and allow them to safely, you know, have a decision over their body. And some of these states are trying to, poor women are going to different states, and then, you know, so the state that the woman is from is trying to do something to the doctors or the woman for doing that right in the place where they have a right. And someone explained it like, okay, Nevada has legalized gambling, right? But let's say you're from a state that doesn't have legalized gambling, and you go to Nevada and you gamble, and you win money, right? You gamble. It's proof you did it. That would be like the state you're from arresting you for gambling.Brad Crowell 6:06  So you didn't finish that. So then you go home to whatever state, yes, and they arrest you, yes. But you were in Nevada.Lesley Logan 6:12  Yes, where it's legal. Brad Crowell 6:14  Right. Lesley Logan 6:15  So if that, if you're like, oh, that doesn't make any sense. It's the same fucking thing when it comes to women's and abortions like this is and to be honest, like if you struggle with this, I really need you to do some extra research on what an abortion is, on what the Bible has even said. I need you to understand what, what, what week a baby is even viable on their own. And then I need you to look at how much it costs to be a parent, and you need to understand if you are also not voting for health care for children, for food at all of their schools and all these different things you do not care about life, you don't. If you are not, if you are also not voting for every single thing that makes it illegal to be poor in this country, you do you don't understand what being pro life actually means. And I know that sounds harsh, but that's how I feel. It's how I feel. I used to, used to think, okay, well, they can have a difference of opinion, not anymore, not when women are dying, not when women who are not able to have the babies that they want to have because something went wrong and that affects their ability to have babies in the future. No.Brad Crowell 7:21  Yeah, the laws that that are being passed are, I would argue that the terminology is confusing that I would not say it's fair to call them pro life. They're, in fact, pro birth. So they're, they're not looking out for the mother ever. They're looking out for what could hypothetically be a child someday, maybe. Right?Lesley Logan 7:43  Yeah, that they don't, that they're not going to care for once it's once it's born. Brad Crowell 7:48  Well, that's not necessarily the case but. Lesley Logan 7:50  I'm not talking about the parents. I'm talking about the law. I'm talking about the, the parents, oh, some of these people already have kids and they're like, I have enough. Some of them just are in the wrong time of their life. Some of them don't want to have them. Some of them, you know, it is with someone that they don't want to have a child with. This is all their rights to have. Brad Crowell 8:05  Yeah. I mean, the running joke is that the law cares before you're born, and then once you turn 18 and you can join the military, but between those times, good luck.Lesley Logan 8:15  Yeah, yeah. So anyways, I, I know, I know there's there's there's, I understand if you are someone who has a hard time with this topic, because I do remember being a child and a teenager and a young adult having a problem with this topic. And the more research I did, the more I realized how many, how, how hard it is for a for the woman in this country, specifically, and how, how much, how, in this country, we have women who will die giving birth because we do not do proper medical research, we do not care baby like we have a high mortality rate in this country that we should for a first world country, because of all, and because what I've seen what having a baby does with her body, it is her choice. She should be able to do what she wants, and there isn't judgment negatively around it.Brad Crowell 9:03  Yeah,we have a higher maternal mortality rate than most other high income countries. Whis is mind blowing.Lesley Logan 9:09  And then when you go deeper, when you go deeper, look at how high it is for black women versus white women.Brad Crowell 9:14  Yeah, significantly higher risk for black women and women over 40.Lesley Logan 9:17  And if you are worried, it's because, oh, maybe it's a different No, a high school educated white woman will have more likelihood of surviving over a medically educated black woman because of racism in this country and the stress it does on our bodies. My loves, like I will always, I will fight for women's rights, and one of those rights is having choice over what happens to your body, period, no matter what state you're in and if you don't want babies to be aborted, then you need to go to your congress people make sure that they're taken care of, because I think more women would even have a child if they had help and support. We don't do that here. So on this day, call your congress person, see what they're doing for people who have children and need help.Brad Crowell 10:00  Yeah, yeah. This is a tough this is a tough conversation. I think that. Lesley Logan 10:06  It's hard. Brad Crowell 10:06  Well, it's, what frustrates me is also that this is for 50 years the law was clear, yeah, and then three years ago now, we've got a bunch of Supreme Court justices who are like, just kidding, and they're just taking these kinds of rights away. And that frustrates me more than anything, is that that, that that's even an option. That shit, it was, it was the law of the land, you know. So that's, that's insane to me, and I, I think that the only way that stability gets created is if we are all paying attention to the things that are happening in our state and also in our federal government. But you know, right now, it's up to every single state to protect their women, you know, individually. And so it's important for you to participate in this and be educated and call the people who are making the decisions in your state.Lesley Logan 11:01  And also, it used to be, if you didn't like something for you personally, you just don't do it. So if you don't like abortion, don't get one. Brad Crowell 11:08  Right. Lesley Logan 11:09  But like, like, you know, it's just, it's really hard. It's just it get gets me really. I was just at the I was just at the women's clinic today. I love my women's clinic. If you do live in Las Vegas, the WHASN clinic. Shout out to the WHASNclinic. It is fucking phenomenal. At any rate, they have like, a sign on the wall, which is like, how to prevent pregnancy, right? And sterilization for a woman, or vasectomy for a man, are in are like, not going to have a baby, not going to happen, okay? And then they go through like, okay here are the birth controls. This is how we have to change them. This is how effective they are. So it starts to go from 99.9% to like 97% to 94% here effectiveness in preventing pregnancy. And here's what it said at the bottom of this. And this is like mind blowing that they do not teach people in school because they don't want you to know, because they want you. They want you dumb and pregnant. They if you are not doing anything to prevent pregnancy. So you aren't on a birth control, you don't have any protection going on birth like things like that. He doesn't have anything. You're 85% likely to have a baby if you are, if you have reproductive abilities and you don't, don't do any intervention, the chance of you getting pregnant annually will be 85% not in your lifetime, annually. So don't be shocked when people end up pregnant. People can, they can accidentally take not even accidentally. They could get sick and they need an antibiotic, and it it causes their their birth control to not work, literally, right? I have friends who had IUDs, and their parents got pregnant with them. So like all people can do all the right things and still have this pregnancy happen, and it might not be the right time for them, or it might not be the right thing for them, and they that is their fucking business. Period. I have no judgment towards people who do it or don't do it. It's up to you, but it should be up to you, and the fact that it's not in certain states pisses me off. Anyways, we do need to move on, yeah, but hope, hopefully you're off. I feel like people are fired up with us, but just pass it on to your friend.Brad Crowell 13:09  Yeah. Well, look, let's shift gears here. That's a heavy topic that we're obviously very passionate about. So thanks for following along. Here's what's coming up in our world here. So it's right now, today, January 22nd is the second to last day to get the early bird for joining us this year in Cambodia at a Pilates retreat at Crow's nest, right? So go to crowsnestretreats.com. Tomorrow is the last day to get the early bird. January 23rd is the last day to get the early bird. Go to crowsnestretreats.com or just DM us if you want the link, we'll send it over. Next week is Lesley's birthday, like she already said.Lesley Logan 13:44  I know, I'll be 43 I know, so good. Brad Crowell 13:48  We're just, we're just sharing that. We're probably gonna. Lesley Logan 13:51  No birthday sale. Brad Crowell 13:52  Go out to dinner or something here.Lesley Logan 13:54  Open a party, babe. We're having a party where you dress for the wrong party party.Brad Crowell 13:58  Oh yeah, yeah, we're doing that. That's right. Next month, February, Agency Mini is coming back. We're going to be doing Profitable Pilates is hosting Agency Mini. If you have ever felt like, what's the thing that sets me apart as a Pilates teacher from my my super close friend who's also a Pilates teacher, then you should come to Agency Mini. Lesley Logan 14:16  Yeah. Or if you're frustrated by the studios in town where they are lacking training their own. They're like, they're buying, like, cheap and cheerful $200 reformers and packing people. And you're like, come to Agency Mini because we will with you and also give you what you need to stand out, because that's what we do.Brad Crowell 14:33  Yeah, so go to prfit.biz/mini. Just make a noise over there. Lesley Logan 14:40  Just me making noise. Brad Crowell 14:41  prfit.biz/mini that's profit without the O dot biz. And then in March, we're going to be bopping around Europe and looking forward to that. We're going to be in Poland and then in Brussels. So if you are anywhere near either of those places, go to xxll.co/poland, or xxll.co/brussels. And then in April, we're going to be at POT in London. Lesley Logan 15:05  And by now it has announced. Brad Crowell 15:07  Yeah, it's announced. Tickets are available. So come join us. Come hang out. It's gonna be super fun. Go to xxll.co/pot. And then finally, this is new for those of you who listen every week, thank you for that. May. We are going to be doing spring training again, and this time, we have a really cool topic. We're going to be doing How to Get Overhead.Lesley Logan 15:25  Yeah, we're getting your butts upside down. Brad Crowell 15:27  Get your buns in the air. Lesley Logan 15:28  So if you struggle with overhead exercises, or you feel like it's not in your practice, or you want to be doing them, we're talking like back knives, headstands, control balance, all the ones upside down. Brad Crowell 15:39  Any of those. Lesley Logan 15:40  And you don't have to have to have equipment. We'll have mat classes, we'll have Reformer, we'll have everything. We'll have something for everybody. And if you're on the early bird wait list, for sure, you get a better access options all that good stuff. Brad Crowell 15:49  So go to opc.me/events that's opc.me/events plural, and sign up for the events waitlist. And you know, we'll let you know about the things that happen throughout the year, and then, yeah, so that's what's happening through May. And then this week, we actually had a question from one of our eLevate grads. Her name is Shannon Billings, and she pinged us on IG and she said, hey, I saw those, those posters that you guys made of all the exercises in a grid, and I want to hang them on my wall. Lesley Logan 16:20  Yeah, they're pretty. Brad Crowell 16:21  But I cannot find them. I don't know where I'm supposed to be looking. Where should I where can I find those posters?Lesley Logan 16:26  Yeah, so they're on the OPC site, and the quickest link is just opc.me/posters. And here's the coolest thing about these posters. You guys right now, we're not good at going to the post office, so these are print on demand posters. They're beautiful, so don't let that change. They don't. Doesn't change the quality. Quality is freaking awesome. Yeah, they're great. What it means is, when you, wherever you live in the world, they'll probably print it somewhere near you. So that means shipping to you is actually not astronomical.Brad Crowell 16:50  Yeah, it's pretty reasonable. We've had people order them in Europe or in Australia, and it's, it's not crazy, it's not an arm I'm gonna like to ship. So, yeah, go check that out opc.me/posters, and if you have any questions, just text us at 310-905-5534,Brad Crowell 17:03  Or beitpod.com/questions Brad Crowell 17:04  beitpod.com/questions where you can also leave a win. Lesley Logan 17:10  I just want to add to that, some people are putting two posters per poster frame. So like on one side, it's the mat, and the other side is the reformer or tower. And so if you have not a lot of space, but you want all the posters, order all of them, because you can get frames that have clear stuff on both sides, and you can just like, flip it. Brad Crowell 17:30  Flip it. Yeah. That's clever. Lesley Logan 17:31  I saw a girl who she has my posters, and then she has a different set of posters that are black and white. And so sometimes she wants color, sometimes she wants it to be not. So you can do that. Brad Crowell 17:41  Love that. Lesley Logan 17:42  I know people are so creative, you got to share that stuff.Brad Crowell 17:46  Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna talk about Pav Lertjitbanjong. Brad Crowell 17:53  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about your conversation with Pav. Pav Lertjitbanjong is the creator of Layoff Ready, the financial resilience program that she built before her work evolved into Pavness Leadership Lab. Lesley Logan 18:08  I love it. So cute. Brad Crowell 18:09  The Pavness Leadership Lab, I love it. She after a divorce that left her financially and emotionally depleted. She spent months avoiding the reality of her situation before finally facing her budget a single day of focus work that revealed nearly a half a million dollars in a forgotten 401(k), pretty crazy. From there, she paid off six figures in debt, rebuilt her stability and retired from corporate life at the age of 43. Today, through the pavness leadership lab, Pav studies how people build courage and make clear decisions under pressure, continuing her mission to empower others, to create long-lasting stability, confidence and options in your lives. Yeah. Lesley Logan 18:47  Yeah. I really enjoyed this conversation, because I think we talk a lot about strengths and knowing what your strengths are. And, you know, we even have a conversation about retirement coming up and things like that. But, like, I think people live in fear of different change, what if I lose my job, what if I lose this. But she's like, okay, so what if we've talked about career resilience and having a career resilience and so allowing yourself to really understand it's better, that it's more than just like, okay, I'm financially ready if I get laid off. It's like, no, like, how can you really understand who you are and what you do, what makes you amazing? So which I really love that she brought up, like, job security is an illusion. It fucking is. And it pisses me off that banks value a W2 when some of us are over here betting on ourselves and every year kicking ass. I'm just saying from personal experience, it's just me. But what don't you think? Brad Crowell 19:32  You're not wrong. It's really annoying. I mean, I don't know how else they would should do it, but like, just historically.Lesley Logan 19:39  Just look at my history. Just look at my taxes last look at what I'm doing. Brad Crowell 19:43  Yeah, there's that.Lesley Logan 19:46  But I but I appreciate that she brought that up. I think we I think people do need to know that their job security is an illusion, so that they can not only have career resilience, but also just be really aware of that they have a lot more power than they think. And I think sometimes people go, oh, my ability to stay in this job is their decision when it's actually your decision. You know, just like an interview, if you want a job, it's your decision, all that stuff. And she also brought up, and I thought this is really cool, the emotional clarity that gives you peace of mind. When you have career resilience, it gives you a lot more clarity. So I think it means, like, less anxiety about, I'm going to lose my job. What am I going to do? Like you just feel a lot better about it, you know? And it's critical, because we are going into a weird world of AI, and I don't even know what that means for a lot of people's jobs, because I teach Pilates, and luckily, right now, AI kind of sucks at doing that.Brad Crowell 20:35  Yeah. I mean, so the conversation that y'all had was more focused on not necessarily walking away from a job that you might currently have, but what if, right, being prepared for worst case scenario? Because who knows, you know, who knows? Like nothing is especially now, things feel very unstable, economically, I think it's more of a feeling than it is a numbers thing. But it doesn't change the fact that it's a feeling still, and people are feeling weird about it.Lesley Logan 21:04  Yeah, and weird feelings have changed economies many times in history. And so, yeah, I also think I just want to bring up.Brad Crowell 21:12  But the point the point is, then that, you know, not necessarily wanting to leave a job, but how do you be prepared for it? And this is the kind of thing that she digs into. Like, she, she talked about layoff being layoff proof.Lesley Logan 21:25  She even has a checklist for you guys, and I think that that is, if that's something you are, like, I want to be layoff proof. Like, I might as well start now. You know, you don't want to start it after. So it's layoff ready.com/emergencykit.Brad Crowell 21:39  Yeah, look, and here's the thing, for those of you who are entrepreneurs like us, you're clearly not laying yourself off. The best thing, the biggest thing you could possibly be doing is conveying to your clients how you are adding value into their life, and not necessarily you are, although inadvertently you are. Pilates is how is your teaching? How? What is it that is benefiting them? How is their life changing? And I'm working on a series right now with our Agency members, where I'm helping walk them through not only how to identify the benefits the changes that they're seeing, but also how to communicate those to their clients without feeling weird about it and not being overly like salesy, because if you can continue to reinforce the why that they initially told you that they were coming and then reminding them about the changes that you're seeing as a teacher in their world, right, it's going to change the way that they value their practice with you. So especially for y'all you know, entrepreneurs out there who laying layoff proof, like, what am I supposed to do for that? I'm not, I'm not firing myself. So how do we make sure that we are maintaining our income? We really have to continue to build relationships with our clients. You have to continue to do that.Lesley Logan 22:59  Yeah, I think that's and we actually have a relationship, like authentic relationship episode coming out soon, like, and they'll be in April. Brad Crowell 23:07  Amazing. I love that. Yeah. Well, one of the things I really dug that she mentioned was she said, how can you really design a life that you wanted to live? It could give you the freedom to walk away, whether that means leaving the job or retiring early. And she said, if you are waiting for security, if you're waiting to feel security, you should be building it, not waiting for it. So whether that is maybe you're learning how to do another skill, or maybe you're learning how to manage money, you know, we've had a bunch of people over the years in the pod about this, like Tess Waresmith is one that comes back to me here and talking about financial stability and literacy, financial literacy. So these are things that you could be learning how to just think through. Lesley Logan 23:51  We have Tess Waresmith coming back. Brad Crowell 23:53  Oh, that's even better. Lesley Logan 23:53  I just oh, it's a great interview, guys. It's gonna be so good. I was just like, girl, I need you to tell me how I'm supposed to do when it's like this, and it's crazy like now, when it feels crazy. I also just want to highlight the don't wait for security created. This is everything this is, this is be it till you see it right here, because I was listening to a phone call conversation in a book club I'm in, and some people were complaining that the situation they're in, they can't create a culture. They have all these other outside things. It's affecting the culture they're creating, and I'm listening to them and like, I get that right? And I was like, I waited a second. I was just like, well, I am in a different studio all the time. Like, I'm in a I don't have a studio, right? And so what do I do? And I'm like, oh, in every space that I go, I own the space that I am, and I create the intention that I want. I create the culture I want them to experience, and I set the stage and I shared that with them. I said, instead of waiting until you can, like, move studios or move this, what if you just acted the culture you want to create in the space right now? Because then, if you do get to change a situation, you'll already have practiced it. It'll be really easy for you to do, or you might not even have to leave. Maybe the culture just changes around you. And so it goes back to like, don't wait to feel secure. Create security. What is the be it till you see it? What does security for you in your job or something else look like? And how can you create it in the space that you're in and wait, instead of waiting for someone to wait for someone to come, put a fence up, you know, you know what I mean, like, you're gonna wait for someone to, like, hand you a lottery tickets you have extra money. Like, what are you gonna do? I think that I like the action step that she's providing here.Brad Crowell 25:29  Yeah, one thing that she was talking about, which might sound a little scary, she actively leveraged debt to to consolidate and then pay off her debt, right? I mean, I've done that too, where I took out a credit card with a balance. I transferred one or two or three credit cards to that one, right? It had something like, if you transfer it in, you get 12 months of, no, you know, no fees, yeah. And so, you know, took those 12 months to pay it down, yeah? So, you know, it just something that seems straightforward, but also might feel you might feel hesitant to get started on that, but you know that stuff's worth, worth thinking through. I think so.Lesley Logan 26:12  I think it's worth talking to people who who understand it too, like a wealth manager or things like that. But like to be honest, that is how the rich get richer, right? Like credit score is, if you're in the States, your credit score is pretty much just like, how do you manage debt? So if you're debt free, and you've always been debt free, and you don't get any cards, you actually don't have a perfect credit score, because you don't have credit for them to like, see how you do. So it is all about strategically leveraging debt to, like, increase that score. You can strategically leverage it to allow you to have the security you need for in case something negative happens in your career or in the journey that you're on.Brad Crowell 26:47  Yeah, well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna cover those Be It Action Items that you had with Pav. Brad Crowell 26:53  Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Pav Lertjitbanjong.Lesley Logan 27:07  Pav let us know if, after the four attempts, any of us got close on that.Brad Crowell 27:11  She said, Know your numbers, which is so funny, because this is like, I never stopped saying this to our coaching clients. It's so easy to know your numbers, but it seems so hard, right? It seems like this scary black hole of like, oh my God, I don't even know what I need to know. So it just seems like this amorphous, like blob of unknown. And when we dig into the things that most people need to really know is, what are your expenses and what are your income? Those are the things. That's where you want to start, right? What are your expenses and what are your income? Yeah, so she said, for her, it's, she said there's three numbers that truly matter. One is your net worth, right? So she's, she said, assets minus liability. What does that mean? An asset would be, maybe you have a house, right? Liability would be, I have a credit card debt and it has, you know, $10,000 on it. Okay, great. So you have a house that has, you know, or actually, you could say the house is worth $250,000 I still have a loan of $150,000 against the house. So I have equity of $100,000 right? So that's net that's your net worth, right? So that's an easier way to think about that. She also said the second number is something she calls an FU fund, what she describes as that six month cushion that lets you walk away from anything you have to, you know. And today we were talking about it. Maybe it's a little more than six, maybe it's six to nine months, or something like that, where you know, okay, because you know your expenses, and let's just hypothetically say your expenses are 10,000 a month, you know, how do we what's the quickest way that we can get to setting aside $60,000 that's a scary number to be honest. That's a lot, you know, but we got to get started. You have to start sometime, right? And that that kind of buffer will certainly protect you were something bad to happen at an employment situation, and then you feel like, stuck, and you're like, Oh my God, but at least you have a buffer, right? So that's what that that's for. And then finally, she said, your firing number, your fire number, how much money would you need to invest in the market so you can make smaller amount each year on 4% and still have money left to reinvest, right? So what does that mean? That's your like retirement number, right? So for anyone who's who's like financial planner, they'll ask you the question of, all right, how much money do you want to live on a month? Again, let's just say $10,000 and then they'll, what they'll do is they'll work backwards based on your your retirement portfolio, and they're going to assume that you'll be able to live if $10,000 a month is the 4% number, then they'll be able to reverse engineer the number and be like, great. You need to have $2 million or, I think it's more than that, but you'll need to, need to have X amount of dollars in your portfolio so that you can live comfortably on $10,000 a month and never have to worry about it again, because it's in the market, right? So, and the reason that she said 4% is because the average market return is eight, like seven to 8% or maybe even it's eight to nine, I don't remember, but if you can live on half of that, that gives you the other half of what you hypothetically are earning to reinvest back into the market again, right? So that's, that's where the numbers, that's how that kind of breaks down. It's a bit in the weeds. So thanks for following me there.Lesley Logan 30:25  I love that she has those and that you did those ones, because the other one is pretty amazing. And this is simple, but true. Bold doesn't have to be loud, but it has to be true. And so you don't have to have this, like, law, the way I interpret this, like you don't have to make this bold move where you're like, what was that Tom Cruise movie, where he just, like, was like, goodbye, fuck you. I'm out of here. Like, who's coming with me? And like, Renee's. What was that movie? It's the one that everyone quotes, and it's the worst one. Jerry Maguire.Brad Crowell 30:55  Jerry Maguire. Lesley Logan 30:55  Jerry Maguire. Brad Crowell 30:56  Show me the money. Lesley Logan 30:57  Show me the money. And like, but it doesn't have to be like that, but it but, but whatever you do needs to be true to you. And I think that's where a lot of people don't take time, is to, like, really understand, like, what do you want? What do you need, you know, and, and that's scary, because maybe what you want and need is different than what you've been doing, you know, or maybe you've been letting yourself realize, like, how strong you are. And we have a couple great episodes coming up about, like, getting to know yourself and like, also being kind yourself if you haven't lived in that way. But truly, I think that's one of the best be it action items, if you if you can do that, if you could live authentically to you, and you can know your numbers, you are resilient, and you could probably kick some ass. Brad Crowell 31:39  Kicks some ass.Lesley Logan 31:40  Yeah, yeah. So the other thing is, is that Pav has actually been, recently, been doing more coaching in a focused position on the science of making courageous decisions under pressure. And so if you are needing more help with like, making great decisions under pressure, things like that, you can also coach with her. And I think that'll be really if you liked how she sounds and how she coaches and her insight on things. I think that's a really great thing that she's doing. You know, because making courageous decisions are really hard, and also, like, she understands how to, like, take imperfect action, even your nervous system resists. And a lot of people, you know, when you have to make big decisions, sometimes your nervous system does have anxiety. And so of course, it does. Why wouldn't it? It it would be so against what our brain does to go into the fear. So I highly recommend reaching out to her. Brad Crowell 32:25  Awesome. Yeah, that's great. Lesley Logan 32:27  Well, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 32:28  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 32:29  Thanks so much for being here, and thanks for listening to our rants. I do happen to know that people like them and someone reach out after our Transgender Day, and they were so glad that they found us. They found our Pilates stuff, and they like our little rants there. So thank you for that. Send this to a friend who needs to hear it, especially one who needs some career resilience or some support, support under making decisions under pressure and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 32:53  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 32:54  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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After rebuilding her life from divorce and financial uncertainty, Pav Lertjitbanjong shares why job security is often an illusion—and what actually creates peace of mind. In this conversation, Pav explains how becoming layoff ready is about strategically creating options for yourself before you're forced to make a change. She breaks down the three numbers that bring clarity to financial decisions and why waiting for security keeps people stuck. This episode is a grounded look at what it really means to layoff-proof your life. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Pav found clarity after emotional overwhelm.Pav's own strategic approach to paying off her debt.What layoff proofing your life truly means for your future.Why job security is an illusion but career resilience is not.Three numbers everyone needs to feel financially prepared.Episode References/Links:Pav Lertjitbanjong's Website - https://www.pavness.comPav Lertjitbanjong's Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@momentsofresetPavness YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@PavnessLabPav Lertjitbanjong's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pavnesslabGuest Bio:Pav Lertjitbanjong is a marketing and brand strategist with more than two decades of experience leading strategy for global, billion-dollar brands. She is the creator of PAVNESS, a framework designed to help high-achieving individuals navigate major life transitions with clarity, courage, and intention. Known for turning complex strategy into clear, human-centered stories, Pav's work lives at the intersection of brand positioning, personal reinvention, and meaningful messaging. Her approach is shaped not just by her professional background, but by her own experience rebuilding her life through uncertainty and change. Pav believes true success is not defined by titles, revenue, or external validation, but by alignment and the confidence to be fully seen. Today, she helps leaders and creators reconnect with who they are becoming—both in business and in life. Her story is a reminder that clarity comes from honesty, and bold moves often begin quietly. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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So now I teach people how to take control of their money and rebound from any situation without overwhelm.Lesley Logan 0:22  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:05  All right, Be It babe, this is a interesting conversation you're about to hear, because I really was super intrigued by our guests today. I got to meet them several months ago, talk about what they're excited to do. They have actually been a listener of the Be It Pod for a really long time. They've been being it till they see it. And that's literally why they are sharing what they're doing right now. And so I'm super excited for you to hear about Pav and being layoff, layoff ready, right? And I think that's you might be thinking, wow, aren't talking about laying on, getting laid off? You guys, we have to. We have to. Some of you in your be it till you see it might have to be laid off, or might get laid off, or might want to be laid off. So, so I think this is a really cool conversation of like preparedness and also, like honesty about what is life? What is the life we want? Like, have we been honest with ourselves? And when I got off the comic path, we talked about confidence a little bit, and so it wasn't recorded. So I kind of want to just like, bring this in and then I want to you to hear this amazing episode from Pav and hear her journey, and hear what she's doing here, so she's helping people, because I think a lot of people are going to need, like, layoff proof their life. So, confidence, you guys, confidence, isn't something you are deemed with. No one gives it to you. It's also not something you go and get. Confidence comes from doing the thing you said you do. So every time you tell yourself you're gonna go for a walk around the block, and then you postpone it to like answer an email, you are actually etching away at your confidence. But if you go and do the walk, then you are increasing your confidence strength. A lot of people think, oh, once I'm more confident, then I will do X. No, do X, and you will become more confident, right? So with that said, thank you, Pav, for that wonderful question. I'm so sorry you guys, wasn't recorded. I hope that little tidbit gets you there, and here's Pav and Layoff Ready. Lesley Logan 3:02  All right, Be It babe, I'm excited, today's topic, I think maybe we've touched on it a little bit in people's stories, but never had like, someone who's expert at it, someone who's, like, truly been through the trenches and come on the other side, and like, has expertise to share with you, and like skill sets and all those things also probably one of the coolest Be It actions I've ever seen someone do. I hope we get into it as well. Pav, you're our guest today, can you tell everyone who you are and what you're rocking at? Pav Lertjitbanjong 3:29  Yes. Hi Lesley, thank you so much for having me. It's been an honor to be here. So I am Pav Lertjitbanjong. I'm the founder of Layoff Ready and a financial resilience mentor. So basically, what I do is I help professionals to help build income security and freedom. And, you know, before that, I was working in corporate, just like most people, and realized that, you know, finally it's the matrix that we kind of, like, you know, onto, like, this hamster wheel, and had this moment and eventually got out of it. So yeah, and I rebuilt my life after divorce, and basically, kind of left me completely shattered financially and emotionally, but I learned how to layoff proof my life, and now I'm, you know, quitting my job and retiring from corporate at 43 years old. So now I teach people how to take control of their money and and, you know, rebound from any situation without overwhelm and fluff.Lesley Logan 4:27  Oh, I love this. First of all, 43 and you're, like, retired. I think you had all of us. I mean, clearly you're working, you create your own thing, but like, you're retired from corporate life. Like, I think a lot of ears perked up, because that's not the option for a lot of people. I do want to take a step back, because I do love that you shared that like you have gone through divorce, you have had to pick up yourself and put all the pieces back together and start over, like a lot of people listening to the show, you know? I mean, I hope we have some Gen Z, but most likely, most of them are a little they're over 40, and we have been. And through things in life, and sometimes we can take it really personally and think there's something wrong with us. How can we go back in time a little bit like, how did you pick the pieces up after divorce? Like, what? What did you do to even get yourself to a place? Because I can't, unless your divorce was 20 years ago, it feels like this all happened very quickly, that you went from divorced and broke to, like, retiring from corporate. Pav Lertjitbanjong 5:22  Yeah and Lesley, thank you so much for asking me this question, and it's the one that I've kind of like pondered for so long, because, you know, like, when we've been through like, such dramatic situation like this, right? Like we don't usually reflect on the lessons that we typically learn from so I thought about that. So basically, okay, let me just maybe backward on, like, okay, my divorce situation. So I've been married for about seven years, and then, you know, things didn't work out. I think part of this now that I have, like, my renewed faith in in God and, you know, the universe, I believe that if you are onto the path that God is not blessing you, that is not your true calling, he will destroy that path. And that resulted into my divorce. And so the moment that I gathered courage to okay, say to myself that okay, I cannot be in this situation anymore. I need to really do something, or I'm gonna spend the rest of my life, you know, crying about it for the life that I have not lived. And just like what you always say, you know, we do it messy, and we, right? Lesley Logan 6:36  Yeah. Life is messy. It's, you can't like it can't not be, you know, like, one of my dear, my first assistants was a doula. She's like, birth is really messy. Pav Lertjitbanjong 6:48  Yeah. But, you know, I think, like, once you focus on something, and then you surrender to God, he will lead the way. That's what I've that I've believed in. So, you know, with my with my divorce, in order for me to get them to get a divorce, the first step, my lawyer said, Okay, you need to get your baseline ready. You need to do budgeting. And I'm like, okay, with an MBA in finance, I didn't know how to do budgeting, which was like, so crazy. And I'll tell you this, like with Layoff Ready, I have worked with some of the clients that are, like, higher up in corporate, and they are the same, I think, like, the higher up you are, you rely so much on like, so called experts to help with your personal life, life, right? Like, because you are so good at what you do, so you don't really, yeah, you you neglect what you need to do for yourself, because you just totally trust experts. And that's kind of how I've always been. So I had to start from the ground up in terms of, okay, like, what exactly is my net worth without my husband or ex husband now? And it took me six months Lesley, not because it was hard in the sense that, like, oh, all the calculation, because I'm like, a number person anyway, but the six months to actually feel the feelings, right? Like, really, gather all the documents and really, okay, this is it. You know, once I submit that paperwork, once I file this, then that's the beginning of the new life unknown.Lesley Logan 8:20  Thank you for sharing that. I think a lot of people don't do things because it really does mean by finishing it, it marks the end, like, that's the end of that, you know, like, whether it's a person who's passed away or a pet that's passed away, like, dealing with the their toys and the dog beds, whatever it is, like, once it's gone, it's like, well, they're really gone. Like, there's not even a sign of them around here. So like going through and figuring it out, like I can see why you would want to take six months, not because the numbers are hard, but because it's hard. It's just hard. Yeah.Pav Lertjitbanjong 8:49  Exactly, Lesley. And I mean, when you talk about pets, you know, I've been through that same situation too, and I am a procrastinator, and that's my new year resolution, which I'm kind of, like slowly getting there. Same thing, like, when, when my two, my two rabbits died from that marriage, you know, they came with me. It also took me six months to, like, clean up everything.Lesley Logan 9:12  Yeah, because it was, like, the last, you know, like the last thing of that, yeah. Well, so, okay, so during the six months, did you do anything to kind of help yourself out? Did you go did you stay home and, like, wallow? Did you go out? Like, how did you, like, take care of yourself and get to know yourself? Was there anything, any Be It Action Items that you did in there? Pav Lertjitbanjong 9:32  Oh my gosh, okay. Like, shamelessly saying, I did absolutely nothing, just like, wallowing, you know, being in, like, my shoe box apartment in New York City, because at the time, I already moved out of my my house, and I didn't really have much in savings at the time, because basically, when you're married, then, you know, things are kind of commingled in a way. So not so much. You know, that was probably one of the darkest time of my life. And you know, back to like what I did, and what did I learn from that, from from like, the whole process was that the power of budgeting that's so important. And let me just tell you this, Lesley, so after that six months, I decided, okay, like, I need to do something. I I'm gonna file that paper and get that budgeting done. Took me one day. Lesley Logan 10:20  Right. Pav Lertjitbanjong 10:21  One day. Lesley Logan 10:22  Right, I know it's really funny, isn't it so funny? Like, I think we can all, like, see ourselves in this I'm like, oh my god, I gotta write that email, or I gotta go to that thing. I gotta go, and then you go it was like, 17 minutes at the DMV that wasn't even that part. Like, it just feels so heavy. Yes, I understand. I understand. Pav Lertjitbanjong 10:38  Yeah. So it took me one day of focus work to get that going and everything. And to my surprise, when, like, back to when we're talking about, like, you know, when we surrender to God, God actually, like, help pave the way for you and I found almost half a million dollars in a hidden 401k account. Lesley Logan 10:59  That's half a million dollars? Pav Lertjitbanjong 11:01  Almost, close to, yeah. Lesley Logan 11:02  Oh my god. Pav Lertjitbanjong 11:04  So when you talk about save it and you forget it, I literally forgotten that. And no joke, like, serious, and.Lesley Logan 11:13  That's, Pav, that's insane. So, like, here you were, like, broke as a joke on a tiny apartment. Procrastinate. I just want to, like, reiterate this so that people, like, stop procrastinating, procrastinating and wallowing all these things. Then you do the paperwork and you have a half a million dollars.Pav Lertjitbanjong 11:30  Yes, close enough. So, so yeah, like, my life literally just kind of changed overnight, you know, with that one power of budgeting. Lesley Logan 11:39  And by then you'd learn how to budget. So that's great. So probably best, probably best. You had to learn how to budget first.Pav Lertjitbanjong 11:46  Exactly, exactly. Yeah. So that was basically like my moment that, you know, my whole life, Lesley, like okay as a woman, and actually not all women, but maybe like the way that I was raised, I always thought that, okay, the only way for me to become a millionaire, to become financially free, I need security of a man to help me.Lesley Logan 12:10  Oh, you're, I mean, I think, first of all, so in the States, women couldn't get their own credit card until, like, their 80s, 1980s right? So, like, like, in my lifetime, right? And I think I can't remember when women were allowed to buy their own homes, but at any the reason why, like, people are always like, oh, there's so much divorce now there's, no, women couldn't leave shitty shit because they couldn't own a home, they couldn't often find work, and they certainly couldn't have a credit card. So like, yeah, Pav, like, we're of the age where, like my mom, like her mom, couldn't, didn't have a credit card when she was of her own right. So my mom is the first person in my family that could have her own money. So I think a lot of us have that, that we're not raised with that. And so what you see around you, because that first generation above you, they all had to go through that. That's how they were raised. So it's completely normal to think that. And I think what's really cool is we've now had 40 something years of it. So it can change where we we all can be billionaires, and then we can marry someone, whether it's a man or woman who also is a millionaire, and then we can have more money that we can do good things with.Pav Lertjitbanjong 13:13  Yes, the more the merrier, Lesley, yeah, and I think, like to your point, basically, I think what went through with my life, even though I suffer for a long period of time, I felt that it actually was proud of myself that I was able to help, like, break the generational curse, you know, because that were, like, what you talked about, you know, like there were women that didn't really have those opportunities.Lesley Logan 13:40  No, and they weren't loved either, like, not for who they were, yeah, my gosh, Pav. So you get to this place where, like, oh my gosh. Now you're not devastated. I mean, you're devastated from the divorce emotionally, but you're not devastated financially. You have, you have a jumping off point. So can we, can we jump ahead to like, how do you go from like, okay, I am now I'm gonna go now I have a half million dollars. It's not enough to like, retire off of today. But how do you go from that to like, I'm gonna help people be layoff ready? Because one of the things that, like, I feel is so topical. We talked about this before I hit record, it's like, there's a lot of people being laid off right now, and with AI, which has its own devastating effects and also great things. We use AI all the time, like, there's going to be more. And so I think, like, you know, in case, in case, someone can't just randomly find an old 401K they forgot about, how do we prepare them?Pav Lertjitbanjong 14:33  Yeah, okay, so you have asked so many amazing questions. So like, let me break it down. So like, number one you were asking about, like, okay, how did they kind of jump start from like, okay, that's aha, moment that okay, finally, it can be my own rich man, or at least the starting point until, like, okay, helping people, right? So I think, like, ever since then, I realized that okay, now I can be my own rich man, that I cannot rely on the security of a man to. Lesley Logan 15:00  No, you don't have to. Pav Lertjitbanjong 15:00  For anything, right? Even though, like, okay, great, we, we would love to find my soulmate. I mean, our soulmate, and I'd love to have a rich husband again, but you're not better version. But, yeah. But I think ever since then, I realized the power of financial literacy and, you know, really becoming my own person, because I always had low self-esteem, Lesley, you know, I think it's just kind of like what we talk about, the general generational curse. So anyway, since then, I started, like, okay, studying investing, personal finance, you know, make sure that okay. Like, by the way, I don't think that I dropped that bomb on you yet. But I also, like, with that marriage, I had about $100,000 debt. So with the money that I found, even though I had the 401K, you cannot liquidate the whole thing, right? Because you pay so much taxes. Lesley Logan 15:52  There's rules. Pav Lertjitbanjong 15:53  Yeah, exactly. Like, like, it's your money, but it's not your money. Lesley Logan 15:58  Right, right, right, right. Pav Lertjitbanjong 15:59  Yeah. So okay, so I had to find a way to, like, supplement that. How can I make more money? So, like, one is okay, I already have a corporate job. It's good paying, but obviously it didn't really help fund my entire lifestyle because, like, I used to live large, but now on my own, I need to, like, okay, number one, downsize my life a little bit more. You know, like, I can't really go to, like, three Michelin star on a Friday, you know, if I want to, these days, you know, something that you have to, like, really plan on. And then, let me forewarn you, it doesn't apply to everyone, but for me, I actually strategically leverage debt to help me pay debt.Lesley Logan 16:38  Yeah, heck yeah, girl, are you, I haven't had one come in the mail, but I definitely when I was like, getting out of homelessness and getting back on my feet, I was like, oh, this card will let me be interest-free for 18 months. Heck yeah. We're taking this card move all this debt over, so now I'm actually paying it off, and now I have 18 months to pay this off. Yes, yes, I hear you. I, there's, but there, because there is better, there is better debt out there. Yes, for sure.Pav Lertjitbanjong 17:06  Exactly, yeah. So free money. So one thing led to another, I was and then Covid happened. You know when people talk about and okay, like, let me just be clear, Covid totally suck. Like, that should not happen, but for me, I was lucky, in a sense that okay, during Covid, you know, I got to work from home. You know, as a tech worker, you get to work from home, and I had a little bit time, you know, like during, like, early hour, because I work West Coast hour before to really do a little bit of day trading, you know, like, maybe the first two, three hours after the market stopped before I actually work my real job, and I got lucky, I was able to buy at the lowest, probably, and it kind of bounced from there.Lesley Logan 17:52  Yeah, that's what you're I mean, like, when everything was going crazy recently and going low, like our neighbors like this, I'm like, I'm not even looking. I'm literally giving them more money. I'm gonna give my people more money to go play in the other places that it's gonna be good. Like, obviously, to avoid these but, like, we'd be smart about it. But like, this is how people got rich in the Depression. You gotta buy when it's low and during those Covid times, good for you. You know what I'm hearing from you Pav is, like, you're not afraid to do something that is a little scary, and you're not waiting for someone to tell you it's okay. Like, that's pretty badass.Pav Lertjitbanjong 18:27  I've not always been that way, Lesley, but thank you. It's an honor hearing that from you. Lesley Logan 18:33  Well, I mean, clearly the, maybe it's the divorce that, like, made made you that way. You know what I mean? Because I think sometimes we go through hard things, we're like, whoa. Like you develop a skill set because you need to, you know, so, like, I think that's really cool. Pav Lertjitbanjong 18:45  Thank you. Yeah, and I think, like, the most important things, actually two things that I was able to gain from the divorce, not just, like, the money part, which that is great, right? Like, with investing, one thing led to another. I was able to, like, you know, make a lot more money from there. And by the way, I got a promotion after, you know, when I decided, okay, like, I need to make more. You know, the Power Focus is when you focusing on something like it actually happened, because God was just like, make sure that he orchestrate everything for you.Lesley Logan 19:17  Well, also you're putting yourself out there, and you and you said the right words, focus. I think a lot of people go, I don't have this, as opposed to, where can I get this? You know, like, you're like, I need to make more money. What's in front of me? And so I think that that's a really important distinction, because a lot of people like, I have no money, and they sit around going wallowing, I don't have any money, I'm having and they're like, look, there are days for crying, like you are going through a divorce, there's a few. You should have a few fuck, fucking crying days on the floor. But then you have to, like, get up and go, okay, what do I want? What can I do with what I have? And so I love the like, I'm gonna put in for a promotion. Like you don't get a promotion if you're not ready for it. Like no one's doing in corporate., as a woman, no, you had to earn that so, like, I mean, like, I'm sure there's not all corporations do that, but like, let's be real. Like, a lot of them, you have to prove that you are more than qualified for that job. So way to go.Pav Lertjitbanjong 20:12  Yeah, thank you. And by the way, to add on top of that, like, when you were talking about, if you don't ask, you don't receive. Like, that's so true, because, like, I had a co worker I came to and I asked her, like, hey, I want to put you on a promotion list, you know, as an endorser for this quarter. And she's like, oh, thank you. I really appreciate that. But, you know, I am like, I think I thought it was due to for promotion, like, last year. I'm like, well, have you ever asked for it? No. Like, if you never ask, you never get it. You don't get it.Lesley Logan 20:43  Oh that is, you know, it's unfortunate, but like, it's true, like, a lot of people get places because they just asked, you know, like, there's even just some opportunities that I have had because I just asked, not because I was qualified, you know, I mean, I had to be qualified enough. But, you know, like, sometimes it's just like, who, you know, so, or what, who, whom you ask. So, I love that. So, okay, so you got a promotion, you play the stock market, and then were you like, were you always thinking about, okay, I can't wait. Like, I want to retire from corporate early. Was that like the plan? How did, how did you go from like, getting promotion, working corporate and day trading, to going, okay, I'm gonna help people prepare their lives for a big change, like a change outside their control, because that's what Layoff Ready is. It's like you're ready if a change outside of your control happens.Pav Lertjitbanjong 21:32  Right. Yeah, Lesley, and that's such a great question, and to be honest with you, like I've always had in my mind that I want to retire early, because ever since I was young, I always knew that, like, this is not it, like my life should not be in PowerPoint and, you know, be a corporate robot. And even though, like, let me just tell you, I know, like some people talk about, like, burnout, or, you know, like, how they've been treated badly by their companies, I feel very fortunate, like my career so far in general, that I have been treated very well for the most part, and I'm really, really, really grateful for that. But I think I've always, like, had that goal that I wanted to be able to retire, like, before 45 or like 50, you know, and really do my own thing and live my life. But let me just tell you I never had that courage, too. So when you told me about, like, hey, Pav, you're a badass, you know, thank you. I can confidently say that yes, Lesley, today's Pav says yes, I am a badass. But like, maybe, like, two months ago Pav, or maybe, like, whatever, you know, 40 years old Pav will not be that. Lesley Logan 22:38  I think it takes time to realize, like somebody in one of our communities, just like, mentioned, like, something happened that four years ago, right? And I was like, and it's so easy to go, oh my god, it's been four years, like, as a long time, and then it's like, it's only been four years, like, I can't believe how, like, what you've done in like, such a short time. So, like, it's, of course, like you recognizing your boldness and your badassery, like, in the last couple of months versus three years, like, there's, I don't think that's even you don't have to just, you can act that's fine. That's exactly when you found it, you discovered it. And I think that's important because, like, there's going to be days we don't feel like that. But also we have to look back and go, whoa look what I did in such a short period of time, you know, like, a short period of time, like, that's kind of a lot of growth. So let's talk about Layoff Ready a little bit, because I think a lot of people think it won't happen to them. Oh, it's gonna happen to that person, but I'm really great at my job, or I'm, you know what I mean, like, I'm really excellent at this. Like, what are some things people need to be thinking about, or just, like, reviewing, you know, because it's gonna take them a couple weeks that they should be looking into to make sure that they're layoff ready. Like, what are some signs, or what are some actions? Pav Lertjitbanjong 23:47  Yeah, so first, and thank you for asking Lesley. So Layoff Ready is a freedom-based financial preparation. So it's not just like, oh, you know, like, hey, this is like, your investment advisor telling you to like, okay, this is how you allocate your your investment so on, right? But this is more about like, how can you really design a life that you really want to live in, you know? So to to decide a life that give you the option for freedom if you want to, it's not about like, hey, you know, tomorrow, or everybody goes and go into the office and like, hey, I want to quit my job because I'm layoff ready? Some people, maybe you really love the job that you're doing. But you know, like, what you touch on is, with this economy, is your job really safe? Not really, with AI rising, I don't think that anybody is safe, right? Like, for God's sake, people been talking about what like by 2032 we may not even like have jobs the way that we see it.Lesley Logan 24:47  Oh yeah, I think, and that's 2032 that is, that is a very short time away. It is seven years like I'm an optimistic person most of the time, and when I think about what AI is going to do, I. I think about like, it's not going to be great for everybody. It's going to be great for those who can use it. It's not going to be great for everybody. So I do think that like preparing ourselves to understand, like, what, what is a life we want to live. And I love that, like going through that so that no matter if you choose it or it chooses you, you can be, you can be, you know, you'll still cry, but you can have a next step.Pav Lertjitbanjong 25:24  Exactly, yeah, and I think, like, you know, it's also beyond, like, the financial preparedness or the career preparedness, but like, the emotional clarity and preparedness that comes with that, right? Like, basically, it gives you an option to be able to walk away from a situation or a job or even like people, or like, in my case, like a marriage that no longer align with with you, with your goal in life. And so for me, I think layoff ready, layoff proofing your life is about like, you know, being like, strategically creating options for yourself so you never feel stuck. Like, you don't wait for security, you create it, and you build the skills and the incomes before you need them. And you also, like, you know, help you stay adaptable, knowing that job security is an illusion, but the career resilience is real, and that's what I think is so critical these days.Lesley Logan 26:20  So many takeaways. But like, we don't wait for security. We create security like that, that is key, Pav, that is like, I think a lot of people have a false security with their gigs, with their jobs, you know. And I think also, you know, the way the world works, it gives them that false security. Like took my husband and I over two years to prove to the powers that be that we could afford a home, because we don't work for anybody but ourselves. Never mind that ourselves have made more money year after year. You know, like every tax season, you can see that where our company is growing, they're like, oh, but you work for yourself. No, that's not trustworthy. Well, I'm not gonna fire me. So like, feels pretty secure, if you ask me. But like, I think it's like creating that security and creating the things around your life. You know, when we were talking about Covid, like, which was terrible, yes, yes, yes. But let's talk about this. The good thing is that came as a lot of people evaluated what they were doing and what they wanted and what they needed, because they were laid off, you know, they were forced to do it in a way. But like with what you're doing with people now is like actually helping them decide it ahead of times they have to leave, right? Like they're not, you're not necessarily encouraging them to leave, but you're just helping them create the ability to have a decision.Pav Lertjitbanjong 27:40  Exactly, yeah, and, and I also think that when you layoff-proof your life, it not like, not only it just gives you options, but it actually gives you peace of mind as well. And I think, like, in this day and age, especially at our age now, it's, it's the most important. I think, like, it's like, way more important, even beyond, like, money or success.Lesley Logan 28:03  Yeah, yeah, no. I mean, I agree. Like, you know, they say, like, we have six, there's six needs we all have universally. So certainty is one of them. And like, we all crave it, right? Like, craving that certainty, like, the job is going to be there, the money is going to be there. But we also crave uncertainty. We want things to change, right? But what you're talking about and what you've promoted yourself to doing you retired from corporate to do this with people is like, help them be able to make a decision for themselves and have certainty around it.Pav Lertjitbanjong 28:40  Right, yeah. And I think one, one important thing too, Lesley, that I feel like we have been lied to, is I don't think that we need that much in life in general, like in this capitalism society, like, do we need, like, you know, 10 handbags or.Lesley Logan 28:57  Well, I do, but some people don't.Pav Lertjitbanjong 29:01  More power to you. More power to you.Lesley Logan 29:04  But I, but I do agree, like, it is interesting. Like, I actually believe in a healthy capitalism, right? Like, I actually think, like, Netherlands is really great. Like, I want to live there. They have a community-based capitalism. I'm in. But I do think that you're right that, like, there's a lot of lies, that the more stuff we have, the more rich we are. When really, like, I'm looking at a very full closet and like, when was the last time we opened this closet door? Like, when do we use these things? And so I think that there is something about what you're saying is like, we can layoff-proof of our life by just evaluating, like, are we living a life that we actually want or are we living one that we we're lied to about. Pav Lertjitbanjong 29:44  Right. Exactly. I think, like my point on.Lesley Logan 29:47  I'm sorry, I cut you off because I, because people know I have a lot of handbags.Pav Lertjitbanjong 29:51  Trust me, me too, like I used to work so close to Fifth Avenue, so totally understand, and that's why I never had savings when I was younger. Anyway, but, yeah, like, basically, you don't need millions to retire early if you want to. There are different types of retirement, or, like, we call it like a FIRE, right? The FIRE movement, Financial Independence Retire Early movement. So there are different types of FIRE that allows you to retire early. Like some people, for example, can, you know, retire with, like, a super tight budget. Some people retire with big budget, with what? So what that means they need to make more money, and they need to invest more and they need longer time to invest, right? Or some people, they call it like a barista FIRE. So for barista FIRE is more on you you basically you retire, but if you still, like, keep a part time job that gives you benefits, and, you know, like, still earn.Lesley Logan 30:45  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's like, my dad, because he can't sit still. Can't do it.Pav Lertjitbanjong 30:51  I mean, whatever works for, you know, for for him, or, like, for each person is totally different. But yeah, like, I before I retire, and I would say, like, now I'm more, like, you know, kind of in a way, like a same might retired, because obviously, like, I don't think that we can actually, like, sit still and just, okay, like, today I'm just gonna go to the beach and do nothing, even though it's so cool, but you get bored, right? But, but, yeah, like, you can live with so much less, and you don't need millions of dollars to retire. I think that's what I I've learned from that, and how I came to that realization, though, Lesley is because of the numbers. So, you know, like, when you were talking about, like, how can people prepare to, like, layoff-proof their lives? How can people prepare to like, you know, if they want option to retire early? Like, what's the first step to get there? I would say, know your numbers. So there are only three numbers that you need to know that is so important, like, one is your net worth, assets, minus liability. The second one, I call it FU funds. People have different definition of that, but my FU fund is more like an emergency fund. You know, when you talk to experts, because sometimes people say, okay, like three to six months. I don't think it's enough these days with inflation, right? You need, like, Yeah, six, twelve months. So, basically, exactly. So that's the money that you can kind of walk out if from any situation, if you want to, it's kind of like, okay, if you I go by kind of situation. And then the last one is the one we discussed, like, on the fire, like, how much money you need to invest in in the market in order for you to, like, take a smaller amount in, on average, I think it's about 4% that you can take safely from your investment, so that you can live on and still have some money left to.Lesley Logan 32:34  Reinvest if that that's working for you. I that's great. I think that makes it so easy. Because I think a lot of people think like, oh, gotta think about my retirement. I gotta think about my life. Oh, I got laid off crap. And it's like, if you only have to focus on three numbers, it makes it really simple. And I love this idea of, like, barista fire. These are fun. These are really great. Pav, who are you most excited to work with? Like, who do you want to like, are you do do like, who is it that you're wanting to make sure that you help people like, Layoff Ready?Pav Lertjitbanjong 33:08  So I typically work with more, like a high achiever, people in corporate but I think the most I would say, like underserved market is women, right? Like, women, especially a little bit older, like, 40 plus years old that has been in corporate for a while, and are more prone to be laid off. I think these are the demographic that I'm like, so excited to work with, because essentially, that's kind of like me, in a way. You know, I think when we pursue our, like, real, true passion project, or like I call like God's given purpose, you actually are serving the people that. How do I say that? Like your younger self, in a way, basically.Lesley Logan 33:54  Totally, everyone who listens to this podcast is, was me. Maybe there may be there different ages of the my younger version of but yes, we are all with we're the best. We are best able to serve the people we once were. So I love this. Pav, this is so exciting. We're gonna take a brief break. Find out how people can find you, follow you and work with you.Pav Lertjitbanjong 34:14  Yes, so you can find me on Tiktok at momentsofreset, M-O-M-E-N-T of reset, or layoffready.com. Lesley Logan 34:22  layoffready.com Yeah, I can't believe that wasn't, good for you, that was waiting for you momentsofreset and layoffready.com. All right, Pav, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps do you have for us to take away from this episode? Pav Lertjitbanjong 34:36  Okay. So bold doesn't have to be loud, but it has to be true. The life that you want is not built at once. So it's built in the micro moment of honesty to yourself, so until one day the outside world catches up, and you know, you just be it to till you see it, and people will see it too.Lesley Logan 34:57  Oh, that is so beautiful. That is actually so true, those micro moments of you being honest and you're that's so wise, Pav, and then the world catches up with you. I love, instead of us. I love that. I love that so much. Pav Lertjitbanjong 35:11  Thank you. Thank you. Lesley Logan 35:15  I, well, this is so fun, because it's not like I don't always have people who've been listening to show for a long time move and slowly being it till they see it on the show. Like it's just not something that happens very often. And so it's just so cool to hear the full circle. And for for everyone to hear the full circle of you going through the life that you went through, doing the hard thing, you know? And now you've got something that can help other people do it too. I mean, like, that's just beautiful.Pav Lertjitbanjong 35:42  Yeah. And thank you so much, Lesley, for I think, like, the work that you have done actually has not just only helped me, but I'm sure, like, it has helped thousands, if not millions, of people. You are doing God's work. So I think, like, I wish that that would be more of you. So thank you so much for all you have done. Thank you.Lesley Logan 36:01  Oh, Pav, I can't, you're the last thing in my day today, and I've never received that. I'm going to take it with me on a vacation. I'm so, so grateful. You know, if we all give ourselves the credit that we would give other people, right, we would realize that, like, we actually are doing great jobs, and it's just hard. It's just hard because you don't see all the efforting that's happening. You don't see all the people whose lives, but even you, Pav, saying thank you. And also you're going to give so many people permission on this show, you know whether or not they call you to be Layoff Ready but maybe they actually just go, oh, wait. I can actually just fill out that paper. It's gonna take one day or, oh, I actually need to sit down and think about, like, what do I want? What does wealth mean to me? Like, I think that it's just so cool, and you've just given some great things. So now you're on your way to impact more and more people in the world and it's going to be a better place because of people like you and people like me and people who are listening to this podcast. You know, people listening to this podcast, you guys are amazing people, cheerleading people all the time. And I say this to the people I coach you are the only person who can do what you do the way that you do it. You are it. And so don't be quiet. Don't be soft. Don't hide your magic, because there's people who are literally waiting for you. You know you're the only one. So, Pav, thank you for stepping out and creating Layoff Ready. I'm super excited for what you're doing and for the people who are gonna experience it. And everyone, share this with a friend who needs to hear it, someone who needs to hear a journey that someone's been on, someone who needs to hear that there is ways to prepare themselves. So no matter what happens, they're ready for it and but they even they can be like a barista fire. That's so cool. Didn't even know that. So Pav, thank you so much. And until next time everyone, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 37:42  Hey, be it babe. So what  I love so much about the guests that we bring on is that they continue to research what they are experts in and dive in deeper. And when they find new ways of helping people, they always reach out and let us know. And Pav has been doing a ton of research and science around. How to make decisions under pressure and what your nervous system is going through, and different things like that. So if you are working in the leadership experience or you're trying to dive more into that, or you have, you notice you're having a hard time making decisions. She's also coaching and advising people in that capacity. So if you enjoyed her energy and  her way of thinking about this topic, you're gonna love what she's doing over there.  Lesley Logan 37:43  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 38:26  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 38:30  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 38:35  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 38:42  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 38:45  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Welcome Natties to episode 122 “Snooker or Snooker?” We welcome back the one and only comedian and voice actor Jeff Leach! Join us as we talk trips to Europe, is there A/C in Europe, Uncle Kyle and Jeff Leach battle on how to say Snooker correctly, and so much more! Remember to please like, comment and subscribe! Are you a part of THE Natty Nation? What are you waiting for hit follow!Natties we officially have MERCH! Support us and the podcast by ordering on our website www.thenaturalspod.com Thank you!SocialsJeff Leach: @JeffleachUncle Kyle/Pod: @thenaturalspodSweet Derek: @sweetderekproductionsEmail: sweetderekproductions@gmail.com

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Lesley Logan reflects on the overlooked brilliance of Hedy Lamarr and why creating, learning, and showing up still matters even when recognition never comes. She also celebrates a powerful community win built on consistency, shares how planned boredom helped her truly rest after the tour, and offers a reminder that refilling your cup is not indulgent—it's necessary. This episode invites you to rethink success, honor your wins, and protect the spaces that help you keep going.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Hedy Lamarr followed solved problems without real recognition.Using Wunda Chair flashcards daily rebuilt strength through repetition.How Lesley planned rest after tour and honored the need to recharge.The importance of self-respect and maintaining clean shared spaces.Episode References/Links:Hedy Lamarr - https://www.instagram.com/p/DQVbH1CiK5aLove of Three Queens - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045499Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:47  Hey, Be It babe, happy January 16. Fuck yeah, Friday. Oh my god, we made it. We're here. We've got wins to share. We've got inspo to share. We've got an affirmation to mull over. We are ready to kick off your weekend. Do you remember like the TGIF? Oh my god, I lived for TGIF. I lived for the Full House. A step by step. I could still sing the songs in my head, not out loud, you know. And you're like, I know the words, but like, I can only hear them in my head, and not out loud. Gosh. Then there was Family Matters. Loved Family Matters. And then there was a fourth show. I feel like I didn't love the fourth show in those two hours, but anyways, so freaking great every Friday, and that's what this episode really is to be. It's like a TGIF. Who knows? Maybe that's what it becomes. Lesley Logan 1:26  Anyways, still want to celebrate your wins, because I want you to with all that ish that goes on. You are still making magic happen. Sometimes that magic feels really small, sometimes it feels really big, and we have to celebrate all of them. Okay, so this inspired me. Oh, my God, this it's from her wiki org in 1937 a 23-year-old woman fleeing her Nazi arms dealer husband, Friedrich Mandel boarded a train to London at that moment, no one could have foreseen that within just five years, she would develop war technology that would revolutionize the lives of billions of people, both living and yet to be born. That woman was Hedy Lamarr. According to the prevailing patriarchy, Hedy Lamarr wasn't supposed to be an inventor. She was the most beautiful woman in the world, a Hollywood icon. She's stunning, you guys like, gosh, her brows, her lashes, like everything. And her job was to entertain the men of her time. But behind the glamor, she was something else, a scientific genius, and she's about to change the world forever. Born in Austria in 1914, Hedy was a child prodigy. She took apart machines for fun. She could reassemble a music box at five. By her teen, she was obsessed with engineering and physics, but her life took a different turn. At 19, she married a powerful arms dealer, a man who sold weapons to Hitler. She sat through meetings with military scientists. She listened, took notes, learned everything, and realized the kind of man she married. She ran. She escaped Austria, disguised as a maid. She fled to Paris, then London, then Hollywood. She reinvented herself as a movie star, but while the world saw a glamorous actress behind closed doors, she was designing war technology. In World War Two, Hedy learned that the Nazi submarines were sinking ships. Torpedoes were guided by radio signals. But there was a problem, enemies could jam the signal and send torpedoes off course, she had an idea. She designed a secret communication system, one that could jump between radio frequencies, making it impossible for enemies to block. She partnered with a composer to create it using piano rolls as a model for frequency hopping. It was brilliant. In 1942 she patented the invention. She took it to the US Navy, and what did they say? Go entertain the troops sweetheart, or try selling war bonds. They ignored her, filed her work away, never used it. Decades later, her invention was rediscovered, and it became the foundation of Wi Fi, Bluetooth and GPS. Her ideas, her idea powers the entire modern world and the very same devices and technology men use to slander women and spread their misogynistic views. And she got nothing for it.Lesley Logan 3:53  There is some beautiful pictures of her doing stuff with the war you guys. It's worth looking at the post. She never made a single dollar from her patent, but by the time the world realized what she had done, she was old, broke and forgotten. The men who used her invention, well, they made millions. They also sidelined her from Hollywood, which forced her to go to Italy and pursue film production there. She invested all of her life savings to produce Love of Three Queens in which she also played multiple roles. What a cool woman. It was originally supposed to be a series of 39 half hour plays, but about the love affairs of famous women throughout history, but later pivoted to a full a film with only three of the original plays. The film was a massive flop, and Hedy ended up losing her entire life savings, which totaled to millions of dollars, and went back to America right after Hedy Lamarr died on January 19th, 2000 she wasn't just a Hollywood star. She was a brilliant scientist who never got credit, a woman whose genius was buried under her beauty. She changed the world, but history only remembers her face and even that very vaguely. So, Hedy Lamarr, genius, inventor, actress, the woman, the myth, the legend. I really am obsessed with that information. Do you feel like? I don't know? Like, the more you learn, the more you're like, wow. they just try to keep information from me. You know? They try to tell us different stories about history. They tried to make it seem like this happened, when this happened, or it's just all marketing, right? And I love that she just kept going. And I am sad that she died in the way that she did, but I really do love that she that she was a curious human and that she was thinking about ways to solve problems. And I loved her ballsiness that even, like, even at that time, I'm sure she knew they weren't going to listen to her, but she did it anyways. And I just think that, like sometimes we can get obsessed with a project we're working on and think, Well, I failed because it didn't work, it didn't sell, but you became someone along the way of working on that thing that didn't work in the way you wanted, and she didn't get the credit that she deserved. But all of us have more opportunities because of her, and so because of her, we should keep going. We should keep going. We should keep taking things on. We should keep challenging ourselves. We should keep learning. We can get kicked down, and we should get back up again and try again and not and most things won't be a success. Lesley Logan 6:08  Okay. I saw something I don't think I saved it to share with you, but it was just like, just the percentage of balls that, like, weren't home runs that Babe Ruth did, and just the percentage of like, flops this person had versus like, how many awards they had. And we tend to only think about and celebrate like the Oscar win, but we don't like we don't go, oh my god, they only have one Oscar win, and they've done 300 movies. We never do that. So because we never do that for other people, we shouldn't do that for ourselves. We must celebrate some wins. So you can send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions beitpod.com/questions and that's where wins go as well, and where our team will mark it as a question or a win, if it's a question we'll answer on Thursdays, if it's when we'll celebrate you here. And so our win today is from Miss Jordan Bebee and her win is big win this week. I have neglected using my Wunda Chair for quite a while now, so I decided it was time to break out my Wunda Chair flash cards. I started working through the order with whatever bits of time I had available each day, starting from the top of the deck each day to get the repetition. Whoa, that's so fun. By the time I got into my second week, I started feeling connected to my body that the week previous, I couldn't have dreamed of. Exercises that felt impossible to move were actually moving. But even better, I felt more connected to myself. Super excited to add my Chair back into my regular rotation. Thanks, LL, for the amazing flash cards. What a freaking cool way to do that. I am just so obsessed with how you all figure out ways to use these Chair cards and like, what a win you have. Like, I like, you're like, Okay, this is the start of the deck, and the chair has no order, so you just do whatever. And you go, like, went through and you started at the beginning. I love that. And you just were like, okay, I ran out of time. Oh, I have time for adding more cards. And the thing is, is that as you use them more, you have more time, you know, you can do more exercises in the same amount of time, because you start to remember what the card was and the exercise was. And of course, you're having more connections because it's consistency. And your body wants to move. Your body wants to move. A body motion says, Jordan, I'm obsessed with you, and this win. Thank you so much for letting us celebrate with you. Lesley Logan 8:08  All right, my win. So I'm home, I'm home for a while, and no, my win so my win is I'm home, but my my win is I actually took a wonderful vacation Brad and I did in Palm Springs. It's kind of a tradition after the tour, I guess we could take a vacation anywhere. But Palm Springs is really fun because you can lay by the pool, like, just and it's so fun you guys just to get so bored. Like, I bring out two or three books that way, if I get bored of one book, I have another book, and I just lay under a cabana. I'm not even out in the sun. I'm just like, outside near pool. I don't even sometimes get in the pool. I just, like, lay out there and, you know, order food and drink and just lay until I'm so bored that I'm like, okay, we should go into town and do something. Like, we should go do that. Ah, it's the best. Was the best. And so, you know, it's, it's interesting. Like, sometimes it's hard to like, rest and relax when, like, there's just so much going on that you think that you should be doing something. And the reality is, is like, we are no good to anyone tired. We are no good to any effort, tired and exhausted. And so I'm just really grateful. The other thing that I will share, like, I plan these things in advance. It's very helpful, because I'm someone like, have you ever, like, said yes to something two months in advance, and it gets here you're like, oh, why did I say yes to that? Because your, your past self knew you needed it, and the reason you're tired and don't want to go is because you you need to go do the thing that will refill your cup. At the party or the, you know, the dinner with the friend or the spa date or the massage, like your past self knew your future self needed it. And so I typically lean into that, because it's like, well, it's two months ago. I thought this was gonna be a really good idea. So let's just see what happens. I can always leave, right? So anyways, we just use those amazing points. That's why you have them, and just took some time and that, that's just the win I have. So see how a win can just be sitting down and getting bored. I want that for you, too. I want that for you. So let us know if you did. Send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions. Lesley Logan 10:11  All right. Um, I this is your affirmation, and then you can take on your amazing weekend. Go kick some ass. I deserve self-respect and a clean space. I deserve self-respect and a clean space. I deserve self-respect and a clean space, and I just want to take that clean space. Please don't be the person who's always cleaning your space, okay? Other people have to respect the space that you probably cleaned already and then they dirtied. So a clean space doesn't mean you clean your desk and then you get your work done. Nope, nope, nope. That's procrastination towards perfection. No, meaning that like people, you deserve self-respect, and people deserve to keep like your area around you that you did so well attending to make sure that they don't get to piss on it. So, demand it and delegate. And people can do they they'll do it differently than you, but they can still do it so that you can be you and not be busying cleaning up after all these other people. So, love you all so much. Until next time, Be It Till you see it. Send this to a friend who needs to hear it, please. It helps this podcast grow. I it would be the best thing you could do, my birthday is in a couple of weeks and if you want to get me something, it would be sharing our podcast or leaving a review or doing both. Thank you so much. Have an amazing day.Lesley Logan 11:24  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 12:05  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 12:11  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 12:16  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 12:22  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 12:26  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This recap episode reflects on the soulful conversation with tarot reader and spiritual mentor Frances Naudé, unpacking why tarot is best understood as a self-reflection tool. Brad and Lesley explore how intuition is often quiet, subtle, and easy to overlook, and how tarot can act as a structured way to pause, journal, and build self-trust. This grounded discussion invites listeners to see intuition as a daily practice—one that supports clearer decisions and more aligned action over time.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Tarot as guided self-reflection rather than fortune telling.How intuition shows up quietly and builds through daily repetition.Using tarot cards as structured prompts for journaling and self-awareness.How tarot shifted from a self-reflection tool to feared over time.Training intuitive trust through small, low-stakes daily decisions.Episode References/Links:Cambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsPilates on Tour in London - https://xxll.co/potSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions Online Pilates Classes - https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/youtubeFrances Naude's Website - https://www.francesnaude.comFrances Naude's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@francesnaudeFree Intro to Tarot Online Course - https://beitpod.com/intrototarotEpisode 157: Kate Wind - https://beitpod.com/bitysiep157 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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It echoes what you already know and maybe what you're ignoring. When you draw a card in tarot, the card has some sort of meaning. Lesley Logan 0:18  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Brad Crowell 1:02  Take it away. Lesley Logan 1:02  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life are going to dig into the soulful, soulful, soulful. Brad Crowell 1:10  The soulful.Lesley Logan 1:11  The soulful convo I had with Frances Naudé in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now and go back and listen to that one, and then come back to this. You guys, this is the episode that kicked off my hobby. This is the one.Brad Crowell 1:27  And as a bystander of said hobby, I am going to tell you, Lesley has been incredibly consistent with this hobby for, what, four or five months now? Six months? Lesley Logan 1:38  Well, when I interviewed her. Six months? Brad Crowell 1:40  I don't have any idea. Lesley Logan 1:41  From the time that this, they listen to this, and then the time I interviewed her, I think we're at six months, four months. At any rate, I went full in on it, like the ADHD woman that I am, where you buy all the things my life makes so much sense now that I know that that's part of ADHD. You just buy. Brad Crowell 1:58  July. Lesley Logan 1:58  July, right. Brad Crowell 1:59  July. Lesley Logan 2:00  So, and this is January, yeah. So I bought all the things that one would need to study, a tarot, three different study guides and a app. But unlike all the other things that I have tried out, I have still been using all of the things, yeah. And there's a deck in every room. You can draw a card at any time.Brad Crowell 2:19  And you're, you know, reading about it, writing notes and being consistent, it's been great.Lesley Logan 2:25  I really like it, and so by the time you listen to this, I will have started drawing a card for each day so that I can do self-reflection daily. Yeah. So anyways, there we are. But okay, Brad's like, I know. All right, so they don't know. Brad Crowell 2:40  They do not know what is today.Lesley Logan 2:42  Today is January 15th, 2026, and it's Wikipedia Day. Brad Crowell 2:47  Wikipedia Day. Lesley Logan 2:48  So, and just so you all know, you can start getting ready, because my birthday is coming up. It's not yet, but it's coming up January 15th isn't it? Well, they don't know.Brad Crowell 2:57  Just making sure that everyone else, that has nothing to do with Wikipedia Day, but Lesley is preparing for her birthday.Lesley Logan 3:03  If they're gonna send anything, the time is coming down, because it's 11 days away. Brad Crowell 3:07  If they're gonna send something, send it to Wikipedia instead. Lesley Logan 3:11  No. Brad Crowell 3:12  Yeah. Send money to Wikipedia instead.Lesley Logan 3:14  No. Send money to your local SPCA group, not the major one that does the sad commercials, you're local one, okay, or you can send it up to Nevada's, and in my name, they'll, they already know me. Lesley Logan 3:25  Okay, so January 15th is an occasion that celebrates the birth and formation of Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia. Almost every single person in the world knows what Wikipedia is. When we search for something, a Wikipedia link is the first thing that pops up on our search engines. Brad Crowell 3:40  More often than not. Lesley Logan 3:41  It is also a popular site since it provides in-depth information and presents everything in a user friendly way. I love Wikipedia because of like, who is that person married to? You can just go right to that part, like, it's like a here's the bullet points. Okay, in-depth information and presents everything in a user friendly way. So without further ado, let's dedicate this day to the information provider that has been feeding us with the knowledge since day one. Happy Wikipedia Day, and surprise, I should have a Wikipedia page now. It's been a multi year journey. I think how I don't know how long Brad has been working on this project to gather all the information and create this page. I'm really excited about it.Brad Crowell 4:17  It's because I wanted to create a Wikipedia page that we hired a press person. Lesley Logan 4:22  Years ago. Brad Crowell 4:23  Years ago. Lesley Logan 4:23  Yeah. And by the way, how long? Like, there's rules, like, not everyone could just have a Wikipedia.Brad Crowell 4:28  Yeah, no, it's, it's not, you can't just write a story and put it up there. Everything has to be validated and, you know, credible and linked to other things. It's, you know. Lesley Logan 4:28  Because, like, you can't just go. Brad Crowell 4:29  It's intentionally factual and historic.Lesley Logan 4:39  Like, Charlie next door just can't go, like, I'm gonna make a Wikipedia page for myself. Brad Crowell 4:47  I mean, he could, but then the moderators would take it down the next day. Lesley Logan 4:50  Right. Brad Crowell 4:51  Yeah. Lesley Logan 4:51  Right. Brad Crowell 4:53  Right. And, I mean, it's also, you know, you can actually go onto Wikipedia and make any change you want to any page on there. Surprise, you can do that. That, but then it will be reviewed and either changed back or corrected or updated or whatever, or again validated. So, you know, the pages that are constantly growing, it's because there's external like verification for the source of this new information that's being added. It's very intentional. And the reality is, we didn't have the links back, the backlinks, to be able to say, well, Lesley did this. Lesley did that, or whatever, whatever, whatever.Lesley Logan 5:31  Because you can't just go, I did these things. They have to go. Where is the proof? Somewhere else that someone else can validate. You know that you did those things. Brad Crowell 5:38  Exactly. Lesley Logan 5:38  Yeah. But I'm now old enough. Brad Crowell 5:39  Congratulations. Lesley Logan 5:39  I'm famous enough, yeah. And if you want to, you know, look, Wikipedia does a thing every December where they want money, because they actually are free for you to use. And they need, they do a money drive every year. So if you want to give them their money, they're a worthy cause, yeah.Brad Crowell 5:52  I mean, I think I give them $3.50 a month through PayPal. Lesley Logan 5:57  Oh, well, that's so fun. Brad Crowell 5:58  I've been doing it for years. Yeah. Because if everybody does every time they do their drive every year, they say, if everyone just gave $3 then we would have all our bills paid for, right? And I was like, well, I can do $3 a month. How about that? Yeah.Lesley Logan 6:12  That's so thoughtful. Anyways, Brad and I are driving back from Palm Springs today. Brad Crowell 6:12  Right now. Lesley Logan 6:12  We were on vacation. Yeah, we went on vacation, and we're driving, and it's beautiful. We're probably picking up more cactuses because there is a cactus shop on the way from Palm Springs. Well, at least the way we go from Palm Springs home. So we'll have to see which cactus where we don't have yet that we want more of. And then, right now, the early bird discount for the retreat that is this year is happening.,Brad Crowell 6:12  Yeah, for Cambodia. Pilates Retreat. Lesley Logan 6:18  So if you've got an email about it. You are one of the few people who got it, and there's way too many of you on the waitlist that we could take on this year's retreat. So you definitely want to snag your spot before they're all gone, before the discount ends. Brad Crowell 6:49  Yeah, and no lie, we've already had people sign up. We had, like, secret invitation to some people, and so some spots were already snagged, and then we're already halfway through the early bird, so definitely, if this has been something that's on your radar, do not wait on this. Lesley Logan 7:06  You want to come. Brad Crowell 7:07  Yeah, go to crowsnestretreats.com for more information. But for those of you who are on the waitlist, check your email.Lesley Logan 7:14  Yeah, and if we are in your spam you need to tell your your spam folder that we are important people.Brad Crowell 7:19  Yeah, hello. We've Wikipedia page. Lesley Logan 7:21  Right. What does it take to get out of the promotions folder? Damn it. Okay.Brad Crowell 7:26  All right. Next month, February. Lesley Logan 7:28  Is Agency Mini, and it is for Pilates instructors and studio owners who work for themselves or want to, and they want their business to actually not just make the impact that they want to make, but also more than pay their bills, to have to align with their values, align with their goals, feel like they're more in charge of it all. And it's just a really beautiful program that we do. It's three days of your life, and it has replay access. And we've made some additional changes to this one from last time. So you're gonna want to go to prfit.biz/mini to sign up for the waitlist, because those on the waitlist will get the early bird. The early bird is coming up pretty close, because if it's happening in February, we always do an early bird a couple weeks out, so you don't want to miss that. After Mini, in March, Brad and I are going to go to Poland and then to Brussels. So there's a Contrology Pilates conference in Poland. xxll .co/poland I'm teaching alongside Karen Frischmann there. It's going to be a whole lot of fun. We've done it a couple years before, and then we're gonna be at the Pilates and Friends or the Vintage and Friends event at Els Studio Pilateles in Brussels xxll.co/brussels there are private and group classes, and then there's also these amazing workshops. Oh, and one of my dear friends who I haven't seen in years, is going to be at the Brussels one as well, so I'm super excited to teach alongside him again. It's been, it's been since, like, we were together at Jay's studio, so awesome. And then in April, Brad, so after that, Brad and I are gonna do a little second honeymoon, why not.Brad Crowell 8:53  Well, to celebrate our 10 years of marriage, that's one.Lesley Logan 8:56  Yeah, well, yeah. But like, why not? Is like, of course you would, yeah. And then we're going to be at the P.O.T. in London. xxll.co/pot will get you the information up at the London stuff. The lineup is amazing. It's our first time doing a P.O.T. in London. So that's really exciting. And that's actually also, by the way, these events are the only events outside our tour that you can hang out with us other than the retreat. That's it. Closing the schedule guys.Brad Crowell 9:23  Whoa, whoa, whoa, all right, before we go any further, we had an audience question, and today's question is from YouTube, from The Alternatives to the Pilates Teaser for Lower Back Issues video, Kelly asks, hey, actually, it's kellynyhan7909. Hi, Kelly. She said, Hey, could you share a class that is using a floor or standing using the floor, slash standing and a chair? Could you share a class? If that's possible. I've gone through the list of mat exercises and created my own ie side twist sitting and saw but I'm wondering if more for an aging population. It, if it would be good for all i also use the standing exercises from another video for the 100, the roll up, one leg, single leg, circle marching, etc. Lesley Logan 9:49  Great. So. Brad Crowell 9:50  You're gonna have to break down this question for me, because I don't actually have an idea what this question actually is.Brad Crowell 10:08  So, the idea, so she definitely asked a question has nothing to do with the video, which we tell people that they can do anytime they want. Brad Crowell 10:21  True. Lesley Logan 10:21  So what you want to look at, Kelly, on the YouTube channel is we actually released a entire long form video about how to do Pilates at work. So there's going to be some great suggestions. You can draw some inspiration from there, if not use them completely. We also have on the YouTube channel a standing workout. There's a whole workout you can do standing. There's a wall workout, a real wall pilates workout. And then over on OPC, Mindy created a really great stretch class using a chair. And you can use she was on a Wunda Chair, but Brad was on a regular chair, and it spliced in there. So I would definitely grab that workshop, or maybe it was a stretch class. It was another legacy tab, and that's what I would do. And the other thing I would just give you permission on is, after you've done all that, that's a lot of movements, right? A lot of exercises. And our bodies actually only do so many different movement directions. And so you don't have to keep getting creative. You actually need they can get more curious and more connected. So I would get all those inspirations together, find out the ones that work best for the population you're working with, and then make them get better at it. And if they if that's not just time that's going to help them, then what other exercises outside of those things would help them? What props, what tools, you can use the Accessories Deck and OPC to help you with that. So yeah, I understood the question. Brad Crowell 10:21  Great, amazing. Lesley Logan 10:21  Probably a good thing, since I'm answering it, go to beitpod.questions to send yours in.Brad Crowell 10:50  Nope, beitpod.com/questions Lesley Logan 10:50  beitpod.com/questions and then submit your questions and maybe send up send a win, too. Something to celebrate. Brad Crowell 10:50  Yeah, send us your wins, y'all. Lesley Logan 11:49  You can also text us at 310-905-5534. Okay. Frances Naudé.Brad Crowell 11:58  Yeah, stick around. We will be right back. Brad Crowell 12:01  Okay, now let's talk about Frances Naudé. Frances Naudé is a Reiki Master, tarot reader and spiritual mentor who helps people reconnect with their intuition and live in alignment with their true selves. She's also the creator of the Four Noble Tarot Deck. Tarot Deck.Lesley Logan 12:19  You can see Tarot. Deena says, tarot. Brad Crowell 12:22  Oh, okay, and offers free tarot readings and energy guidance.Lesley Logan 12:28  Frances might say tarot, but.Brad Crowell 12:31  On YouTube, along with regular insights on Instagram from her global community, for her global community, that she affectionately calls The Soul Fam, guided by her belief that intuition is our greatest tool, Frances teaches others to trust their inner wisdom and lead with joy, courage and authenticity.Lesley Logan 12:50  Oh, my God. I was just so excited. I was like, okay, I have so many questions. Tell me everything.Brad Crowell 12:55  I really enjoyed your one question about the history.Lesley Logan 13:00  Oh, are we gonna talk about that today, or is that not in today?Brad Crowell 13:03  We are gonna. Lesley Logan 13:04  Skip it today? Brad Crowell 13:05  Well, no, it's not, it's not on here, but I thought it was very interesting. So yeah, let's just talk about it. Lesley Logan 13:09  Let me tell you something, because I think there's more to the story. And obviously we had a short period of time, so I asked her where tarot, tarot came from, right? And she's like, like, how controversial we want to be. And I said, I want to know the truth. And so she said the church, the church had it, and then the church. Brad Crowell 13:26  She said it was around before the church, but she said the church basically, adoted it. Lesley Logan 13:30  Well, they appropriated it. That's a better word for what the church does, and they appropriated it. And then, you know, you would go to the church to get support over something you were thinking about contemplating, and then they would help you use it as a self-reflection tool. Because the printing press wasn't big, and only rich people could have tarot decks painted for them, right?Brad Crowell 13:50  Right. So can you just say that one sentence? They would help you, using the tarot, tarot cards as a self-reflection tool. They would use tarot cards as a self-reflection tool. Lesley Logan 14:04  Yeah, well, and that's like, that's gonna go into what I love about what we talked about. Brad Crowell 14:13  But let's keep going with the history. Lesley Logan 14:09  Okay, so then the printing press became a thing, and so then people could just print their own tarot decks, and then they didn't need to go to the church. And so obviously that was like, not gonna work for the church, because then they'd be obsolete. So they made tarot decks be like. Brad Crowell 14:25  Well, I'm sure you tithe to have your reading or whatever, to have your self-reflection, so effectively it was costing them money. So what did they do? They made, they demonized tarot decks. Lesley Logan 14:35  The same thing they did with women healers. They demonized those too. They demonized. That's why the reason we have witches, witchcraft, all these things, is like, oh, that one point it served the church, and another point they decided to get rid of it, because it would mean they didn't have as much power. And now it became a witchy pagan thing. And let me tell you, after I heard this, I felt like my whole life was a lie. I was like, oh, my God, everything. I've ever been told that is evil and bad was actually good. It's all been good, right? You know. So anyways, we can talk about the witches they burned on another day. But I talked to Kate Wind, who we've had on the pod before, and I said, Kate, how come I didn't know that tarot decks came from the church? And she said, well, the church, we think the church took them from the Romanians, like, which the word you don't use anymore, but like Romanian gypsies, for lack of a better, like, what we're gonna call them. However, there's also some information that could have been from India as well. Brad Crowell 15:43  Interesting. Lesley Logan 15:33  But you know what? Just like we've been to Cambodia, and you're at the temples, and they're like, exactly the opposite of Machu Picchu what is what is. Brad Crowell 15:43  They're opposite on the globe. Lesley Logan 15:45  Right and so and so, it's like, to me, when I hear these things could be at the same time. It's like, because there was this human knowing that there's another way to figure out what's going on inside you. And so tarot doesn't actually tell you anything new, it echoes what you already know and maybe what you're ignoring. And so when you draw a card in tarot, the card has some sort of meaning. We'll just talk about like the upright position has some sort of meaning, right? And what you're supposed to do is reflect upon that meaning in your own life. And so I've been studying in different ways. Like I was talking to one of my besties on the phone yesterday, and she was talking about how she's doing this inventory in her life, and she's letting go of people who don't like ping back her serve, right? You know, like you gotta, it's gotta be or that she's not pinging back on them. And I was. Brad Crowell 16:36  It has to be mutual. Lesley Logan 16:37  It has to be mutual. Get this, one of the card I was studying yesterday was the moon, and the moon is this card where you're like, okay, what in my life is an illusion? Where am I? Where am I off the I'm on the wrong path. Where am I needing to let go of some things.Brad Crowell 16:53  Sorry, did you say where am I lying to myself? Lesley Logan 16:56  Yeah. Brad Crowell 16:56  Oh, recurring theme from last week's.Lesley Logan 16:58  Yeah, right. Same, same, exactly, well. And by the way, you are just doing the exact same thing you should do with tarot, which is, like you did something today. We recorded last week's show, and now you're learning about this card, and so you're using it as a way to think differently or think deeper about, self-reflection. And so I'm telling you guys right now. I mean, Frances said so many more amazing things, but like, this is the thing, if my therapist had told me pick up a tarot deck and journal, I would have been, my life problems have been solved a long time ago. Because I, this has been like, what am I supposed to reflect on? You know what I mean, like, is that not like the question you, like when people say self-reflect, like you have to do self-reflection. Like, do you ever wonder what that means? I just don't. I was like, what does that mean, though? How do I do that?Brad Crowell 17:46  Yeah, sure, but I mean, I don't know that. I usually, I'm, if I'm self-reflecting, it's because there's something that is wrong, and I'm I'm probably self-reflecting about that thing. I'm not just generally self-reflecting. Lesley Logan 17:59  Okay, well, that's good, but also you're that sounds like you're only doing it when something's gone wrong. You're not doing it when something's gone right. Brad Crowell 18:04  Well, sure. Lesley Logan 18:05  Right, and so in tarot, you could have something going well, or you could or it could be, like there could be you can use it as a yes, no, decision maker like to help you make decisions in your life. But like, everything is about it has guidance and information and the symbols, and, like we talked about that, and it helps you kind of understand, it actually helps you have empowerment. That's what she said. She said it really is all about empowerment and helping people be able to navigate their own inner wisdom and then apply it forward. And I think that's the coolest thing about it. It's like a lot of us have so much goodness, and we can only give it to our friends. We can never give it to ourselves. Brad Crowell 18:38  Yeah. So this is where it's interesting for me, right? Because, like, first off, I think that, like this interview, I found very curious. I actually really like listening to Frances. I think, I think it was revealing. There was also some things that were, like, definitely a double woo on the woo scale that I was kind of like, you know, but, but here's where I also think. Lesley Logan 18:59  Brad, remember, we went to two woos, starting 2025. Brad Crowell 19:02  Okay, but let's, let's, then she's in the 2.5s. So, so here's the thing, she also is not just doing tarot. She's also doing Reiki, right? And yoga. She's a yogi as well, like energy work, all that kind of stuff. So there's definitely she's got a lot going on. And so her answers were not exclusive to tarot. Right? And that's where, like, sometimes I was kind of going, well, you know, like, I've actually, you know, had Reiki performed on me and all that kind of stuff in the past as well. So I don't, I don't discount energy work. I think that it's, you know, we all have, we literally have a scientific magnetic field. I get it. I understand that it can be influenced with things and all the stuff. So I don't, I'm not saying no to that, either. But what I, I think that, having grown up in the church and having been like, told that like, you know, basically, tarot is the devil, you know, and looking at it like you know, effectively, it's almost like fortune telling, like, you know, you look at tarot, it's always in movies put alongside somebody with a crystal ball reading your future, and it's always portrayed as utter bullshit.Lesley Logan 20:10  Yes, I think that was part of the programming. So we would avoid it.Brad Crowell 20:13  I think so, too, you know, but, but that's just the that's where I'm coming from with it. That's the worldview that I've had my entire life, until I'm, you know, watching you do this, and listening to her talk about it. So, you know, I think that there's still that weirdness around well, when I'm having somebody else read my tarot cards, you know, this is not fortune telling, right? And I think that's what we should be very clear. They're not just making shit up. Lesley Logan 20:39  Correct. And even when you have, when you do go get a reading like Kate does them. Brad Crowell 20:43  Is it a back and forth, like you're, you know.Lesley Logan 20:45  You didn't have, you didn't get one from Lindsay? You didn't get one from Lindsay? Eric's place years ago.Brad Crowell 20:51  Maybe I can't remember, I think I did, but I can't remember. But, but the, but, like, the question I had, like, it's not like I'm sitting there in silence. They're flipping cards and telling you what's going to happen. It's more of a conversation and the person is helping you come to these conclusions.Lesley Logan 21:05  It probably depends on the on the facilitator, but essentially, the tarot readings I've had is I had one I didn't really like. I actually asked Kate about it, and she was like, she feels like she's being a little more predicting, versus like, asking you. But the one that Lindsay did, Lindsay (inaudible). Brad Crowell 21:21  She didn't do this. I think I remember it. Lesley Logan 21:21  She did a reading with me, and she pulled these cards. And I don't remember the type of spread it was, but it was basically okay. So in the past, right? She had, like, a past, present, future spread of some sort. And so in the past, she's like, okay, in your past, you had x, y and z, that is currently affecting where you are presently. So what's going on in your present life was like, let's just say you drew the full card, which is the car. Like, this is the person's like, going off doing something. They're not probably prepared for it, but they're excited. And they are like, are just going for it, right? But there's these mountains in the way. They're gonna be obstacles, but they have clear skies ahead, because there's gonna be something amazing, like, that's the full so in your past, you had this opportunity to do something amazing, and that sets you off on your present and then the present card, it could be the moon, okay? But presently, you have some illusions. You might be misaligned, and you know, like this. And then in the future, oh, the future, you've got an emperor, right? I'm just picking cards that I remember by. Brad Crowell 22:22  But the idea here is that there's, like, different positions, and one position is past, one position is present, one position is future. Lesley Logan 22:29  If you do that, yeah. Brad Crowell 22:29  And then, and then the the cards help you reflect on different things from your past, from your present, from your future. Lesley Logan 22:30  Yeah. So then you can ask your and then there's self-reflection questions like, okay, what does this make me think of is there a decision that I need to be making right now that I haven't been making? Is this, is there, is there, like, you could be doing a financial spread, and then the cards could be, you take all the meanings of the cards and it's a financial spread, and you're like, oh, if you get this one, like, there's one card that, if you get it, it's like, oh, you should take more drastic, dramatic action in your investments, right where you could draw a different card that's saying, oh, you should be more careful.Brad Crowell 23:07  But this comes down to the predictive, not the reflection. And that's where, like, that's where. For me, this is weird.Lesley Logan 23:12  So I'm explaining to it in a way that, yes, I could hear how you're saying it's predictive, where you would then take it as going, oh, okay, where can I be more aggressive in my financial investments. Where have I been too like, maybe you got the card upside down. Where have I been too aggressive in my financial investments? So you take the card's meaning , and then you apply it to your life based on the spread you're doing. And this is why we couldn't, didn't have the time to get into this. Brad Crowell 23:38  So it's like in the present, and then the whatever the card is, maybe the card is saying, let's talk about how this, you know, this, you've been too aggressive, or let's talk about how you've been not aggressive enough.Lesley Logan 23:49  You could actually draw a card that is all about intuition. And so then the question is like, okay, what is my intuition saying I should be doing today, or I should be doing right now, like you're.Brad Crowell 23:58  But this is what, okay, now that we're talking about it clarifying in this way, it's bringing me even more on board, because it effectively is almost like talking points. Yeah, each card represents a different talking point, a different analytical way of looking at your own past, present and future. Lesley Logan 24:16  Correct. If you do that spread and so what you are supposed to do is listen to them explain what each card means and the position that it's in, and then go and apply it. Meaning, like, reflect upon it and go, okay, it like, let's say you're doing a spread that has to do with your your career, right? You, right now, Brad, are currently doing a lot more sales in the in our business, right? You could end up with, like, doing a spread where it's in the future, it's showing you as having more leadership roles. Okay? So then it's like, okay, well, if in the future, I might having to take on more leadership roles in this business, then you know, what do I need to be doing today to prepare myself? How much of how, what does that feel like for me? Do, if that is something I was going to take on, what would I like to learn about myself? What would I want to do? What should I be doing now? So that can be even a possibility, right? So, like, it just reflects upon different things. And also, it's not predictive. It's just they're all each card, what it represents is more. It's like, not, I don't want to distill it down to a vibe, but it's a vibe, right? Like, and they represent different feelings. There are some cards that, like, the cups are all about emotions. So when you draw Cups cards in your spread, and maybe it's a day spread, maybe you just do one card a day, you might draw the 10 of Cups, which is all about relationships. So then it's like, Okay, today, where can I invest more in my relationships? So for me, I prefer the Day card, because it's like, okay, it's like a focus for today, but you can use them.Brad Crowell 25:50  It's almost like a journal prompt, you know it's like, it's like a preconceived 365 day journal prompt.Lesley Logan 25:56  Correct, I bought a whole journal that does one a day, and they have stickers. And I was like, fucking in. I'm doing it. I got stickers for I got a tarot card sticker. Brad Crowell 26:03  This is cool. I like this even more now. Lesley Logan 26:05  And so and so, for me, the way I've been studying it is, like, the card I'm studying, I'm literally going, how today did I see did, like, when I was studying, like, the Empress, like, oh, how today was I, like, using these things that she has or, or I wasn't using these things. Oh, there was that moment today where I outsourced my intuition to this person over here. So it just helps you reflect upon yourself and get to know yourself more. And the thing is that we all need if we want to have self-love, prevent burnout, be it till we see it. If you don't know yourself like you, you don't know how to listen to yourself, then it becomes really hard. So I have really got obsessed with it, because I'm like, oh, this is a way for me to have a conversation with myself that is somewhat guided and that it's whatever card I drew, whatever card I'm learning from that day, and that allows me to reflect upon today or my past or whatever, and uncover and almost like an onion, peel back another layer without outsourcing my agency.Brad Crowell 27:06  Well, I was just talking about this. Well, first off, that's really cool, and I and I agree, I think it's awesome that this is like, you're not outsourcing, you're not nothing wrong with going to see a therapist or anything like that. That's not what I'm talking about. But it's nice that this is something that you can do on your own. And I was just talking about this with someone about self-reflection, and I love that this is effectively a self -reflection practice.Lesley Logan 27:29  Yeah, that's and that's like, I really was so pleased that Frances explained it in that way, because correct, like you, I went to a tarot reader thinking they're gonna tell me what could be coming up in the future, and I forgot the time that Lindsay did it. And more was like, okay, you've been through X, Y and Z according to your past. You're it's currently affecting in this way and presenting in this way. And in the future, this could be coming up, and you should be aware of it. And it's like, so that sounds predictive, but also I still have to be the one who goes and does the thing. So I need to reflect upon, what did I learn in the past when it comes to that area that this card is representing? What am I currently going through that this card is highlighting, and then this future card is sharing, is putting this as a thing to be looking at. Doesn't mean it's predictive, but like, if that, like, what do I, where's the gap? What do I need to know? What does that, what feeling does that bring up in me? You know? So it's not, it's more of a guide, it's just a guide. I really like it. And I, and I am so pissed that I this was it took me 43 years of my life to know this is something I could use. I'm so grateful for Frances.Brad Crowell 28:38  Well, nothing like a little anger to make motivate you to learn.Lesley Logan 28:41  Yeah. Oh, and also, people keep asking if I'm going to do a reading, and the answer is no.Brad Crowell 28:46  Okay, so here's the deal that's funny that you say that, you know, how do you you know, I just want to briefly touch on this before we move on to some great Be It Action Items. But because I just hijacked your whole conversation and asked about the process and the belief behind it and how it works, which I am glad we did, because I feel like it was good to clarify that I had also written down some notes about the conversation you had with listening to your own intuition, right, because you asked her questions about how did you know that you could do this full time as a career? How did this turn into a career? And I'm gonna skip a whole lot of my notes, but ultimately, she said, you know, pursuing the unconventional path requires being your own staunchest supporter. Because you were talking about, how was it like at a family picnic with people like you're doing what now are you can I like, pray for you? Lesley Logan 29:32  Oh, I could only imagine. Brad Crowell 29:32  Yeah, right. And so.Lesley Logan 29:32  When I told people I was a Pilates instructor, that was already weird. Can you imagine telling them that you're doing Reiki and tarot?Brad Crowell 29:40  Right. So, you know, and what she said, It's not that you have to have the it's not that you have the confidence already. It's that you trust so deeply that you're that what you're doing is what you're supposed to be doing, which is listen to it, to your intuition, right? She said, you do it scared anyways, which is being it till you see it? Right. And she said that builds your confidence. So I just wanted to make sure we got that in. I thought that was really awesome. But stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna uncover these Be It Action Items that we got from Frances Naudé. Brad Crowell 30:09  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Frances Naudé? She said you have to learn how to hear and trust your intuition. Learn how to hear and trust your intuition. And she said, here's a three-part practice for building your intuitive muscle. And this is great, because learn how to hear and trust your intuition is not helpful for me, but here's three steps. Here's how you do that. Start with small daily decisions, things that you do every day, like choosing your tea, picking produce, or selecting which pair of underwear to wear, because that's what she does. She picks it up and she goes, is today, this pair of underwear day, or that pair of underwear day? And she's building this intuitive muscle, you know, like listening to herself, feeling it out, right. And she said, why does she do it then? Because it's something she repeats every single day. She has to make a choice right then, and so she's.Lesley Logan 31:04  I'm obsessed with it, because it goes in line with how habits are created. Brad Crowell 31:08  Hundred percent, yeah. She says, pause and feel after you make the choice, stop and notice what does it feel like in your body, and what energy do you have when you've made that decision. Then recognize the nature of intuition. So this is step three, recognize the nature of intuition. It's quiet. Often feels like a passing thought can lead you down paths that challenge your comfort zone and beliefs. She said, your intuition often will not make logical sense. It might not actually be loud. People always expect these really big moments, but intuition is often really quiet. So she basically, she's reminding us that daily awareness practice will help you build trust in your own guidance long before the big decisions show upLesley Logan 31:48  And to the next step, then ,you have to do that first. You guys don't get to skip ahead, do that first, the next step is to define your highest self. So this is the person we're being it until we see, right? This is a place that exists without ego, she said, without fears, worries, anxieties, and without other people's stories. So yeah, get rid of the other people's stories that are in your head, telling you who your highest self is. And then she encouraged you to clearly define who that self is and live by it. And she, Frances actually shared her three pillars of her highest self, which are, she lets joy lead. She does not let fear get in her way, and she lives in unity with all that's around her. I think that that's those are really tough things to kind of do, because we all want to control how things are. But if you let joy lead hence the going back to last week's episode, I love that these are back to back episodes, and then not letting fear get in the way. That means doing things scared. You know, going back to last week's episode. So so she also said, when you combine a strength and intuitive muscle with a clear vision of the highest self, every decision you make, you are walking that aligned path, even when the noise gets loud. And I just want to say that one more time, when you combine a strength and intuitive muscle with a clear vision of that highest self, every decision you make, you're walking that aligned path. So that's what I want for you guys. And I'm really, really like, I hate how long it took us to get this episode out, Frances, because, like, I've been working so hard on my tarot, but I really am super excited that it's coming out this time of the new year, when people can actually, like, instead of going new year, new me, it's like, what, what, who are, is your highest self. That should be the thing that you're thinking about. And then what can you do every day to walk in alignment with that? And that's going to help you with all the ups and downs and highs and lows. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 33:31  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 33:32  Thank you, Frances Naudé. Y'all, how are we gonna use these tips in your life? What were your favorite parts? Make sure you tag Frances. By the way, you guys, she does a weekly drawing every single Monday. It's quite fun to attend live, and I'm sure you can get to know more about her. And look, I probably got some of this information wrong, but this is my interpretation of it. I'm sticking with it. Don't take it from me. All right, until next time. Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 33:52  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 33:54  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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In this grounded and eye-opening conversation, Reiki Master and tarot creator Frances Naudé joins Lesley Logan to reframe tarot as a tool for self-trust, clarity, and empowered decision-making. Frances explains how tarot doesn't predict your future—it reflects what you already know and may be ignoring. Together, they explore how creating space, asking better questions, and learning to trust subtle inner signals can shift how you navigate decisions, career changes, and personal growth—reminding listeners that self-trust is a skill you can practice.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Tarot as a mirror for intuition rather than a tool for prediction.Why intuition speaks quietly and how to make space to hear it.How asking better questions leads to clearer, empowered decisions.The difference between tarot and oracle cards—and how to use each.Strengthening the intuition muscle through repeated daily decisions.Episode References/Links:Frances Naude's Website - https://www.francesnaude.comFrances Naude's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@francesnaudeFree Intro to Tarot Online Course - https://beitpod.com/intrototarotFrances Naude's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/francesnaudeFrances Naude's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@francesnaudeGuest Bio:Frances Naudé supports her global community through her work as a Tarot Card Reader, Tarot Card Deck Creator, Reiki Master, and Spiritual Mentor. Her keen ability to channel hyper-specific messages from Spirit has helped thousands of people co-create an aligned life of purpose, joy, and holistic wellbeing. The Soul Fam, as Frances so lovingly calls her clients, can choose to receive from one-on-one sessions (both remotely and in person), online courses, mentorship programs, the Four Noble Tarot Deck, or free virtual readings and healings on YouTube. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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It's like, the universe slapped me in the face. It is like really, it is kind of like that, because Tarot never really tells you anything new. It just echoes what you already know and maybe what you're ignoring.Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:53  Be It babe, just having the best day recording for you. I just have to say this, like, it's been one of the most wonderful day recording. But I also just want to say, like, this is a topic that, like, I was like, oh, I wonder how we could talk about this on the Be It pod. And then it got to like, you know, I really am interested in this. And then also it became even more important as we got into this conversation. So Frances Naudé is our guest today, and we're going to talk tarot, and even if you think you don't need to know about tarot, that's not what this episode is about. This episode is about how can we trust ourselves more? Can't be it till you see it if you don't have trust in who you are. And we talked a little bit about confidence and just really understanding, like what, what is going on inside of ourselves? And I just think that this is the most informative episode when it comes to self-trust and confidence that I've had in a long, long time. And I really can't wait for you to hear it. And there's also a history of where tarot came from that blew my fucking mind. Blew it, blew it. So here is Frances Naudé. Lesley Logan 1:56  Okay, Be It, babe. This, this topic I'm super excited about when one of our dear friends, friend of the pod, has been on the pod before, Kelly Hartling told me about this, when I was like, yeah, I am yes, how quickly can we get this person on? So this is the first time Frances Naudé and I are meeting, but this, this is something I'm very excited to talk about. So Frances, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Frances Naudé 2:19  Yes. Hello. Thank you for having me. As you said, I am Frances. I am a Reiki Master, energy healer, a tarot card reader. I am the creator of the Four Noble tarot deck, and I am a spiritual channel and spiritual mentor. So essentially, my purpose, my sole purpose here, is to help people heal and align and live their most authentic and joyful lives, and I do that through energy healing, which also supports the physical body, as well as tarot card readings. And the way that I work with tarot is very much in the present moment, while you know, fortune telling may have its place for me, I believe in free will, and so I prefer to focus on empowering people, helping them understand their own intuition, what I call their spiritual team. So bringing in all the good beings that surround you all the time, and allowing allowing that messaging to come through and really up level your human form and your human life here that we chose to have. Lesley Logan 3:16  Okay, so excited about this, because okay, so there's this person that I am. I have bought tarot decks. I don't really know what I'm doing with them, but I they're so beautiful, and they're so pretty and, like, I have friends like, oh, I drew a card today. I'm like, yeah, I'll do that. I'm gonna draw a card. And then I'm like, what does this card mean? I don't know what it means. All I know is it's either right side up or it's upside down. And then I'm like, okay, Google, watch us mean, and then it gives you a meaning. And I'm like, I do with that, though. So can you tell us a little about, can we go into that? Because I think, like, first of all, for the people are like, this is a double woo, LL, like, I'm not really sure. I don't call it a double woo anymore. I actually think it's another way, to me, I've seen people use it as like, not therapy, but a way to meditate, or way to explore, a way to understand themselves, or to ask themselves a different question for the day. So that's why I don't think it's a double woo. But what are we supposed to do with tarot?Frances Naudé 4:13  Yeah, so tarot, it does. I mean, you can work with it so many different ways. There are thousands of decks out there, and like, my number one thing is, if you want to work with tarot, use a deck that you like, not the deck that someone told you to use. Because your intuition, whether you are like, really great at listening to it and you totally understand it, or whether you're like, I don't, I kind of know, but, you know, I have a gut feeling, but I don't really work with it every day, it's still working right. So you are going to be drawn to a deck, whether it's the artwork, the colors, the whatever. And so work with that deck. Now your deck hopefully comes with a guidebook, and so with that, as you mentioned, or like Google, like, yeah, if you're Googling, that's great, you know, because tarot does require some study. You know, tarot cards, each one, there's 78 and each one has this specific definition from deck to deck, guidebook to guidebook, they will change a little bit, but they should have that like basic core every card means the same thing. Now, with my deck and the guidebook that I wrote, slash channeled, and when I say channel, if anyone is new here, this does sound very woo, but it is what I now super duper with all of me trust to be 100% true, and all of us can do this if we want to. We were designed as humans to do this. It's just we've been programmed to not but channeling is receiving from energy, God, universe, spirit, whatever it is that you believe in. So I channeled that and wrote the guidebook. And for me, as you said, sometimes you read it and you're like, okay, so what do I do? This guidebook and as well as many out there, I'm not just saying like, oh, buy mine, you know, they should hopefully be actionable as well. So this is how you're feeling, and here's what you can do with it. But there is also a way to rely on your intuition, right? So it's like, you pull a card and you're like, I don't know what this means. Let me look it up. And then maybe the death or the guidebook that you have says, you know, this means that you are overwhelmed, and you're like, well, duh, I'm overwhelmed. Then that could be a moment for you to check in and be like, okay, well, what's overwhelming me? What can I do about that? And so that's why it's really great. If you're newer to tarot, you know, to study the guidebook that you're working with, and also work with other people who can, like read for you, because they can kind of even just getting a reading one time. They can show you how to, sort of like work with the information that you're given. But tarot, it's a tool that's ultimately the way that I use it, at least it's a tool to gain information about myself through my own intuition from, again, what I call spiritual teams. Or it's just, like, as much as I really believe in the sacred nature of it, it's really fun. You know, people hire me for events all the time, and like, well, like, I'm the party trick, you know, and it's like a fun thing to do, but I really do believe that it is so informative if you allow it to be, and it really can be whatever you want it to be, it's like meditation, right? If you want to meditate and have some really big, profound experience, that's what it's going to be for you. Or if you want to do a one minute visualization, that's what it's going to be for you. It doesn't really matter what you're doing, it's how it's serving you and how you're working with it, and what you're receiving from it.Lesley Logan 7:25  Yeah, because the way you're describing it, too, is it's almost like, instead of like, letting the card tell you how you're feeling or what you should be doing, it's a, it's a, it's asking you, ideally, to go within and explore. What does that mean, and where is this coming from, and what, what does it mean for me? So you, you're not going, oh, I have to follow this card, because that's what it says today. And instead, it's like to follow myself. And what is this card kind of asking me to focus on today, because there's so many different things we could focus on in the world at one given time. So, like, it's kind of giving you a thing to think about.Frances Naudé 7:57  Exactly and it's funny too. Like, if you get on, you know, like the tarot side of Instagram, or TikTok or whatever it is, there's these memes, and it'll be like, you know, even in comparison to oracle cards. So if anyone listening is like, well, wait, I have an Oracle Card Deck. What's the difference between Oracle and tarot? Okay, very briefly, tarot again, 78 cards. There's always going to be 78 cards, and every card should have a similar meaning between decks Oracle, fair game and typically, Oracle cards are also channeled by the author, but they're a little bit softer and lighter. Oracle cards are very actionable. That was actually my inspiration when writing my guidebook was like, exactly what you said, What do I do? So I wrote it similar to an Oracle Card guidebook rooted in tarot, so it was very actionable. But going back to the meme having that differentiation, the Oracle card, it'll be like, oh, I pulled an Oracle card today, and it's like, universe gave me a hug, and then it's like, oh, I pulled a tarot card today. It's like, universe slapped me in the face. Really, it is kind of like that, because Tarot never really tells you anything new, it just echoes what you already know and maybe what you're ignoring. A lot of times, when I do readings for people, you know they're like, I knew that. And I'm like, I know you did. You just needed a complete stranger who knows nothing about your life to tell you that you can trust yourself. And my favorite thing ever, as much as I love my clients, is when I don't see them for a while because I'm like, you're doing it. You are doing the thing, right? It's like, when you graduate from therapy and your therapist is like, you can come once every three months now, or whenever you feel like it, instead of weekly, like you've learned the tools. So it does provide information in terms of, like, if I ask, you know, what's the energy of the situation, or should I take this path or this path? Though spirit will never give you a clear answer. It's always going to be your choice, but they can kind of show you, like the energy of this decision A versus decision B, and then it's like, okay, so what do you want with that? Um, so ultimately, yeah, it's information, at least the way that I work with it. And again, there are many ways to work with it, but for me, it really is all about empowerment and helping people be able to, like, navigate their own inner world and inner wisdom and then apply that forward.Lesley Logan 10:14  Okay, so excited. Okay, so I guess two, two questions. And I hate when I do two at the same time, but I'm gonna do it. One, where did tarot come from? And two, how did you get into it? Because if you're so passionate about it. Like, clearly, like it, there's some, there's something there, so, but I do, like, you know, like, I know Joe Pilates created Pilates. Like, who is Mr. Taro, or Mrs. Taro, or they tarot. Like, where did it come from?Frances Naudé 10:38  Yes, okay, so many origin stories of tarot, but what I have learned, and what I teach to my students, is that tarot actually originated, oh, I can't say originated, but very early on, was used in the church. Tarot was also a game. So tarot cards, it was like the game Tarot. I have no idea how that game works. It is a game. And then people started receiving, like, the same information through the imagery, and then started using it. I don't love this word, but like the occult, if you've ever seen that, to me, that feels like, really, like heavy in a way, but that is the history of it. And then it was often adopted by the church. But what I understand from this is that people were playing tarot, using tarot, and when the printing press was invented, it became really widely spread, right? So in the tarot deck, there, this will make sense why I'm saying this in a second, in the tarot deck, there are five suits, so the first four we call the Minor Arcana. And those resemble a playing card deck, right? So diamonds, clubs, hearts and spades, we have swords, pentacles, cups and wands. Then we have the fifth suit, which is the Major Arcana. The Major Arcana are like names, so it's like The Moon, The Hermit, The Empress, like they are themes. And back in the day, many people would have artists, so wealthy people who could afford to hire an artist, would have like images drawn for their major suit, for their major death, right? But if you wanted a tarot deck, you had to commission it. You had to find an artist who could do the drive. So then come the printing press. We didn't have to do that anymore, right? So decks were more readily available, which means that this tool was more readily available. The Church didn't like that, because it was putting power in the hands of the people instead of going to whatever your religious leader was. And so they took it back and they demonized it, right? Like many organized religions, tarot is evil, tarot is paganism. Tarot is.Lesley Logan 12:51  Oh I was raised with that. It was terrible, terrible, yeah. Frances Naudé 12:51  Totally, when I do events, people look at me and like, some people are like, oh, I'm so excited. And some people are like, and they like, walk away.Lesley Logan 12:59  I'm going straight to hell. It's happening. Frances Naudé 13:03  Yeah, I'm like, I swear I'm normal, and this is fun. But so that is, like one of the, or two of the origins, well, I guess, like a one very convoluted world of tarot, um, and then over time, obviously, you know, people were still practicing it. It was just seen. It was, it was the church was successful, because if you had tarot cards, you were going against the church, right? So it became this, like, kind of dark thing. And then we had the original tarot deck, which is the Rider-Waite Tarot Deck. This is still widely available. Obviously, it's been like, modernized and the colors have popped, but I think it's like, like, you can get it on Amazon or bookstores or anything like that. And if anyone is looking for it, it's R-I-D-E-R dash W-A-I-T-E and I will say, if you are learning tarot to become you know, like a seasoned professional, I would recommend starting with that deck. The imagery in that deck is super, super, like every single little image represents something. So if you want to really, like deep dive into tarot study Rider-Waite and then you can start using whatever deck you want. But that's like the OG deck, okay? And then how I began working with tarot. Honestly, it's like, so I don't remember exactly, you know, it's kind of like, it's, it's foggy when you look back, because you pick something up and you're like, this is never gonna like, this isn't anything. This is just a fun thing. And then you're like, oh, this is my job now. But I started, so I started with energy work. Well, I started with, well, I started in corporate, then I was deeply unhappy. So I started taking night classes, and I got my health coach certification, and that was like, closer to the thing. Whatever the thing was, it was closer, but it wasn't quite it. Then I did my yoga teacher certification. I'd always been a dancer, and I was like, I love, you know, the body and all of that. I'm going to do yoga thinking it was more exercise. But then my favorite part of yoga teacher training was the philosophical side of it, and you're learning all the yogic principles and all of that, and that really led me down the path of energy. So then I started studying Reiki, and then from Reiki, I started studying tarot. And I was, like, such a dork. I like, printed out every single description, and like, studied and was highlighting and all of it. And now I'm, like, actually so grateful for my past self for doing that. Because now, if someone were like, you need to study the definitions of 78 tarot cards, I'd be like, there's just no, I don't have time for that. But at the time, it was like, I was like, eating it up, like anything that I could get. And then, yeah, I just started taking clients, not ever thinking it would be anything. And I was working multiple jobs at a time, and because I eventually left corporate, and then I was had a bunch of side gigs, and also doing, you know, Reiki and tarot. And then one day, I was like, oh, my God. Why am I so overwhelmed? Like, why am I so tired? I was like, oh, because you're doing, like, seven things and I was so blessed that I was able to finally build up my clientele where I could let those other pieces go. And it was such a dream come true. I couldn't believe that this was like my full time gig after many, many, many years, but it was, yeah.Lesley Logan 16:13  I love I love that it was a nonlinear way for you. Because I do think everyone has to hear that, whether you're into the tarot part of the story or not. Like, just knowing that we all end up somewhere where we think it's supposed to be because of what we were told, which, you know, as you start to the more you start to hear stories of what like we're told is going to make us happy. And then then you hear, like, just the things that, like, some things were available, and then someone decided that they're not available anymore. And like, you know, like you start to realize, like, oh, it's not bad that you started in corporate, because it led you to where you are, and it allows you to recognize people, and also some people will always be in corporate, and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with it. But like, no one's journey to figuring out what they want to be and what they're really called to do is linear. It happens to be like, oh, what's down this door? Oh, I really am interested in that. Hold on, what's this over here? And I just think that that's so fascinating. Okay, so I love that you said, like, if I started to pick up trying to learn 78 decks, 78 cards, right now, I probably wouldn't. I'm like, right here going, how long would it take me to learn 70? Because it's actually quite funny, because I teach Pilates teachers every year I work with Pilates teachers who already be teaching, but I'll teach them over 500 exercises every year, right and, and I don't think I quite understood, like, what I was embarking on when I became a Pilates instructor. And I think today, like, wow, could I learn 500 right now? Like, learn them the way I learned them? But if somebody does want to pick this up as a hobby or just something that they're like, wanting to explore more. Obviously, you gave us that original deck that could be a great one. And also, like what your intuition is like, you know what you like, but what do you do? Do you draw one a day? Do you do it when you meditate? Do you do it when you need it? Like, how do you use it? Frances Naudé 17:54  Yeah, so for someone who wants, like, daily use for themselves, I would say, just do it when you feel called. I love pulling a card a day. It's a great way to get acquainted with the deck. You can read from the guidebook. You can Google like you're learning as you go, right? Because that that's the whole point. And even if you don't memorize it, that's okay, you're still receiving the information. So I think one a day is awesome if you have a meditation practice or you want to create one, you can add that in so like pull a card, see what it says. Meditate for five minutes, what's coming through for you? You know what? What did you receive from that 10 minute practice? That's what I love about tarot is especially for people who have limited time, whether you have kids or you have a demanding job, or you struggle to focus for a while, or whatever it is, it's so tangible that you can actually, like, take it in these bite sized pieces, and then maybe one day, you're like, I want to pull three cards, or I want to pull 10 cards. So that's option one is kind of just pulling to see what comes through. The other is, if you're in an area where or a time in life, we're like, I need guidance, like, I need some info. I need some some clarity. That's a great time to pull tarot, right? And you can literally ask the cards your question. Now I hesitate with yes no's, so reframing your questions is important. So for example, let's say it's like, should I take this job? Yes or no? maybe I would change it to, what is the energy of taking this job, pull a card. What is the energy of rejecting this job? Pull a card, and you can see energetically which one is lighter. If you get two cards that are light, that's universe being like both both options are a great choice for you, and it's just gonna lead down a different path. You know, that's something I've learned in this work, is if you are being presented with options, there's no right or wrong choice, there's just different paths. And so this is about really like listening to what path you want, right? Maybe, like, option one, the card that you get is, like, you know, I don't know, very warm, like the Sun card, right? That's warmth, that's growth. It's, you know, it feel, it feels like summer, so there's a lot of energy in it that. But maybe, and then maybe the other card is a little bit more money focused, right? Like, 10 of pentacles, that's money, that's family, right? So you're like, oh, I can have abundance and a family. I want that. But then if you're someone who's like, I want to be a CEO, maybe you run down, you go down that Sun path, right? So it's, it's highlighting options for you. So I think number one, to answer your question, it's, yeah, a daily practice pulling a card. That's great. You'll learn as you go. Number two, ask them questions. If you have them, one of my favorite questions, which is still very broad, and this is always how I start my personal readings for myself, is, what do I need to know right now? Like, what do you what do you want to tell me right now? What do I need to know right now? If I have specific questions, I'll ask them. But usually the what do I need to know right now is pretty like they will point out your stressors, or, you know, where you're feeling lack of clarity, or whatever it may be. And then I think for people who want to, like, really dive in, there just is no other way but to study like you just you got to study, and you have to practice, practice with yourself. But the best way to learn to read tarot cards is to actually practice on other people, because that pressure of like, oh my god, someone's waiting for me to tell them something. It's forcing you to get out of your own way. It's forcing you to shut that brain off and just dive in. I imagine it's like teaching your first Pilates class where you're standing out there and you're like, oh my god, oh my god. There are all of these people staring at me, waiting for me to tell them what to do like I just got to go that's similar with tarot. And once you do like those first five to 10, you learn to trust yourself, and then it makes reading cards for yourself a lot easier. I always like to tell people reading cards for yourself in the beginning is way harder than reading for other people. So if you really want to start like developing this practice, do it for other people and trust yourself. And then final piece, final tip for if you're learning cards, is find a deck whose imagery speaks to you because the imagery is informative of the message. So I'll show you an example, or I'll give an example here. Let's say, okay, this card, I'll describe it. This is 10 of swords. Okay, so it's this woman sitting on a tombstone. I know it sounds really intense, but there's ivy growing all over it. There's the 10 swords, which is representative, you know, of of the of the card. And then there's a moon there. And this card is all about completion, right? This is about ending of cycles. This is about death, right? And not physical death, but, you know, the death of something. And so if I were brand new to tarot and I looked at this card, I would probably be like, oh, okay, that's a tombstone. So she's alive, though something changed. She's like, you know, I would get something from this. So that's a really beautiful way to learn with tarot, is like, reading from the imagery itself, and then, like, really trusting yourself. That was a lot of insight, sorry.Lesley Logan 23:13  Frances, you're, it's so fun because, like, it's all the questions, like you're answering questions I didn't even know I had, but also the overarching theme I'm getting from all of this, and I think that, like, it's so funny, I kind of feel like I was, like, part of my life was stolen from me by being told that tarot was, like, paganism is that like, it continues to ask you to trust what's coming up for you? Like, even, you know, like, even if you're reading for a friend, you're asking them the question. It's like, you know, like it's, you're looking at the card, but you're asking them the question, like, oh, something's coming to a completion. Like, it's not, it's, it's not someone else telling you something, it's asking to go within. And I think, like in today's world, with everything that's going on, there's so many things asking us to focus on all this other stuff that we're not, very few people are focusing on themselves and how they actually feel and what their energy is. And so having a practice, even if it's once a week or once a day, to like, go, what is this telling me right now? Oh, this is about overwhelm, or this is about abundance. Oh, I do have a lot in my life right now, like just having that moment to check in and with ourselves, like some of us need that physical thing to do that.Frances Naudé 24:25  Yeah, 100% that's that's what I do. Like again, when I don't see clients, I'm like, oh my god, I miss them, but I'm so happy because that means that they've been able to trust themselves intuition or gut feelings or inner wisdom, whatever it is that you want to call it for yourself, it is so silenced by noise. And so social media, TV, like, how many as we wake up, we roll over. Instagram, yeah, we wake up, we roll over, put on the news. We wake up like, you know, we just like, get in this cycle. And so, as you said, yeah, this. 510, minutes. Sometimes you don't even need to pull the card. It's literally just the sitting down. It's like, oh, I've given myself this 5, 10, 20, 30 minutes of space. Like, what's coming up in here? And it is, and it's, it's, but this is the thing, because you said this, and I'm going to highlight it, it's listening. But the key point is trusting and learning how to trust your intuition is, in my opinion, like the secret sauce to life, because if we, it sends us down some wild path sometimes, like the scariest ones, the riskiest ones, but it's always the ones who, where you're like, yeah, this is it. And it lights you up. And even going back to, like, what you said with, you know, like, if I were to go back and teach five or learn 500 things, like, think about yourself at that time, me too. Like, learning the tarot, it's like, oh my god. Like I was so jazzed to learn that, like, I couldn't wait to, and now it's become a part of you. So there's that integration, but that lighting up like, that is your intuition talking, even though it's probably a little scary too, it's like, that is, it's never gonna steer you down the wrong path. Lesley Logan 26:15  Yeah. But also, like, how, like, you just said, like, it's trusting your intuition. Like, by the way, if, you're unstoppable, if you can trust yourself. And that's like, now, like, I have so many different thoughts and like about like, of course, people don't want us doing that. They because then we don't listen to them. We don't listen to what they think that we should be buying or or believing or doing, you know, because otherwise you are, you're following someone else's path versus the one that's your own. Oh, this is deep, okay, I do want to ask you this. It's been on my heart this whole show, because it's like, it's be it till you see it. And part of that is like acting like the person that you want to be and becoming that person, all that stuff. But along the way, there are some certain people's paths of being until you see it, that could get some interesting eyes. I cannot imagine that you would tell people at a family reunion, I'm becoming a tarot reader, and people don't go, what? Like was it, was your family like, yeah, you do you, babe. Or were people like, are you okay? Are you sure? Like.Frances Naudé 27:17  Yeah. So, oh, the things I've had said to me or about me, those are the funniest ones where I'm like, okay, I had friends parents call them, like, is Frances, okay? You know? Because, like, sometimes I would channel live on Instagram, and people would be like, like, has she gone off the deep end? Like, are we good here? I've had a lot of people. The ones that hurt me the most were actually friends, or like people in our friend group, I say, I mean, my husband, it was mostly his friends. So I shouldn't care, because as much as I love anyone of any gender or or no gender, I really don't care what a 25 year old dude thinks about me, but it still hurt. And what it showed me was like, I guess, like my own fears and like my own (, because I had a lot of those specific people be like, honestly, telling me I was ripping people off, like having people pay money for a placebo effect and like that just like, broke my heart because I was like, I, this is life changing. Like, this helps people. And fine, you don't have to be the person that it helps. I'm not going to ever force anyone, but don't, like, bash it till you've tried it, essentially. So those ones really hurt. The Frances, you're crazy. I would just kind of laugh along and be like, yeah, for sure. You know, like, my first disclaimer when I tell people what I do is, I promise I'm normal. Because you tell somebody you're a tarot card reader or you're a Reiki healer and you work within people's energy, they're like, that's not a thing. And I'm like, I understand that it's hard to understand, but it is. But my family, specifically, you know, my mom was always super supportive. She went on a very long, like, religious and spiritual journey throughout her whole life. She and I are pretty aligned on our beliefs. I wasn't raised with this, but it's funny. In retrospect, I look back and I actually think my grandmother, she never really talked about it, but she always had crystals, and was, like, really educated, and love reading books about philosophy and the brain, and so I think now I wish, and I have a great relationship with her, you know, on the other side, and it's, it's lovely, but I do sometimes wish that I could be an adult with her still outside, so I could, like, have these conversations with her. I'm sure some of them would be like, Frances, no, and then some of them would be really interesting. My dad was the funniest one because he he never was not supportive for him. It was more, am I going to be okay financially, like, business-wise, right? Like, am I am I okay? But now he'll kind of ask me questions about little things, or if he has, like, a minor injury or something he'd like, can you give Reiki, and then he'll, like, go tell all of his friends that his knee feels better or something. And, you know, it's and like, even my husband, he's funny too, with it. Like, I know they kind of believe it. They just don't, I know they believe it. They just don't want to admit they believe it. But like, before, when he was still growing in his career, anytime he had an interview or something, he'd be like, can you can you give me Reiki like the night before? And so I know that they feel it and they receive from it, or with tarot, even, like I read my husband's cards every once in a while, or even, you know, it's funny, my tarot cards have told me twice that I was pregnant and they were right both times, you know. So even for our family, and family planning like that has been really cool. So I think the more people receive from it themselves, the more that they understand it. But I definitely get a lot of looks and a lot of words, and I've learned to let it roll off, but it's part of it's part of it. When you do something different. I'm sure you've experienced that, too. Lesley Logan 30:59  Oh, I mean, 100% and I think, like, the interesting thing about what you said is, like, the things that sting are the things that you kind of have a worry of, like, are people going to think this, right? And of course, then that's the criticism that you hear the loudest, even if it was from the people who are the quietest voices in your life. Like, if they were to say, you have nice hair, you probably wouldn't even remember, like, it'd be, you know what I mean, if it was a compliment, because it's like, oh, okay, that's, you know, like, it's not like that you don't listen to them, but they don't act. Their opinion doesn't really mean anything. But when they say the thing that you are like, internally worried that people would think about you, that's where we can get hung up. But it also sounds like, you know, in being it till we see it, and whatever our dream is when we do something that is outside of society's norms of what our career should be, you kind of just have to believe in yourself and like, trust that as people see the results of it, whether it's in what people you're doing with other people or themselves, that they kind of buy in. And you have to, you can't wait for them to you have to do it. You have to keep going and showing them this is what it is, and believing in yourself to make it happen. Yes, no, I have a as a Pilates instructor. I do travel the world, which doesn't make sense, because people literally on a plane, they're like, What are you doing? Like, oh, I'm gonna go to Poland for the weekend. And they're like, to do what? Like, I have to teach. And they're like, teach about like, it's just not gonna make any sense. I'm gonna teach Pilates. And they're like, don't they have Pilates in Poland, I'm like, correct, which is why I'm yes, I I don't know how to explain to you that I have this weird role in the industry, because it doesn't make sense to people, but also, like, it's why we do what we do. It's not because it's weird, but it's because we're so called to do it, and people want to be around that. And so it's just really cool. Thank you for sharing all the different parts of that story, because I do think it can be hard to change the career, to do the thing like, to go from the stable corporate job to like, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna change people's energies for a living. Like that can make people go, oh, okay. Are you okay? Are you okay? But we have to, we have to be okay with it is the ultimate thing, because other you can't otherwise, you're not going to make it. You know, I firmly believe that, like neither one of us would be here if we had actually waited for other people to deem us sane. It's a good idea. Frances Naudé 33:15  100% and it's one of those things too. I mean, even going back to everything, you say, be it till you see it, see it. It's like, it's not that you're in the beginning, especially and even now. Like, there's times I'm like, what am I what am I doing? Like, what do I do? Like, what am I doing? Okay, I guess I'm doing like, it's it has been almost a decade, but it's like, it's not that you have the confidence, it's that you trust so deeply that what you're doing is what you're supposed to be doing, that you do it scared anyways, and that builds the confidence, right? It's like, okay, well, yes, that was a good class, or that was a good day, or that was an amazing session, or this person told me for the first time, or they told me that this was the first time they've ever felt seen or understood by anyone. And I'm like, the first time in your sometimes, what, 72 years like, I work with people of all ages that you felt seen like that? It's not for me. It's like, wait, I think I'm I think I'm helping people. I think maybe I can do this. And it's not that I, you know, you go into that that session being like, yes, I'm fantastic. You know, you hope that you you gain that confidence along the way, but it really is about like doing it scared because everyone is gonna problem. Most people will tell you not to, and even the people that are encouraging. You can feel their doubt. You know, you can feel that they're like, I hope this works for you, not you got this. You can do this. So it's like, you have to be that for yourself, right? And I remember too for me, I was like, well, this is either going to happen or it's not. But it's either going to not today, or it's going to not ever, and it is going to happen at some point, but those are the only two options. So I'm either going to choose that it's not or I'm going to keep walking this path, hoping and encouraging myself and showing up for myself and these people and making it happen. And if universe comes in the way and stops me and I fall on my butt. Okay. It wasn't supposed to happen, but I would rather it's kind of like I better to have loved and lost than never to have lost at all and then never to have loved at all. Yeah, right, like I'm rather going to go down this path. Then maybe the reason I not do it because I listen to all of these people and all of these old stories and everything else, like, makes no sense. And this is also what I've learned through channeling. God is literally begging you to just listen to yourself, to just do the thing that's like one of the main sole reasons that are that we choose to, if you believe in this, that you choose to incarnate in human form, is to get to do stuff, spirit, doesn't we I mean, I'm sure it does. I know that it does things, but it doesn't have this vessel. We don't get to be on this amazing, beautiful planet, connecting with other people like we chose to be here, and that was always a driving factor to me, is, like you chose to be here, what are you going to do with this life? Are you really going to waste it doing something that you didn't want to do, you know. Lesley Logan 36:24  And like, you just, what it brought up for me is, like, better to have loved than than and lost and never have loved at all. Better to go down the path. And why do we consider it a failure, right? Unless, instead of like, oh, it actually led you to this. Like, if you hadn't gone to corporate, you wouldn't have been interested in health coaching, because you're like, I hate this. And then with health coaching, you're like, oh, I really like this yoga. And I didn't hear you once say, well, I failed as a yogi, but I really like the philosophy. I didn't hear that at all. I heard you say that led me to this, and this led me to this. And I think it's a way of us reframing, like, what is failure as a instead of like, what is it actually guiding us towards? Everything we do, everything we learn from it, is guiding us to the next thing, and it's giving us the knowledge we need to do whatever we're supposed to be doing, you know, like, so, I mean, I just think that that's just a takeaway from your story is, like, really, truly, how can we, how can we actually just reframe that everything is just part of the path. It's all part of the journey. Frances Naudé 37:16  Stepping stones, and even using that, like, applying that forward, like, if you look back at your life, you like, if people are in a state of feeling stuck or lost or confused, it's like, okay, well, what can I learn like if I look backwards, what are the things like okay this led me to. This led me to. This led me to this. Was I operating from a place of excitement, or was I operating from a place of fear or escapism, trying to get out of something, right? And so it's like, I work with so many people who have regret, and they're like, why didn't I do this? Or I feel so lost, or I don't know. It's like, let's not, you know, bash yourself for any past decisions. Let's learn from them. Exactly as you said, it's like, I literally see it in my mind's eye as stairs like you want to stay on this stair. This isn't the destination. It's up there. So we have to go, and it's going to be hard and we're going to get tired, but, like, really using it as a tool to learn from whatever it is that you've experienced.Lesley Logan 38:14  Yeah, oh my god, this conversation has been so fun. I'm just so grateful that we connected. Like, I've I really have wanted to, like, have this as a topic and as more personal, but also, like, I feel like, even though the the topic is tarot, the true actual thing is, like trusting yourself, just like just trusting yourself. And if we can do that, we can, we can be it till we see it on anything. Frances, I could talk to you forever but I want to take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you, and work with you. Lesley Logan 38:42  Okay, Frances, where do you hang out? Where can we send people? They're ready to nerd out. They want, they want to understand how to trust themselves. Where they where can they go? Frances Naudé 38:52  So I'm on Instagram and Tiktok and YouTube and all the places it's @FrancesNaude, F-R-A-N-C-E-S-N-A-U-D-E and francesnaude.com is my website. I do sessions for people all over the world remotely, and I also have a small studio space in Orange County, California. So if you are nearby, hit me up and we can meet in person. But yeah, in the in the online space, I do free tarot card readings every Monday on YouTube and share all kinds of stuff on Instagram and trying to get on TikTok. But I'm not gonna lie, I am definitely a millennial, so.Lesley Logan 39:30  I see you. I feel you. The girl I just interviewed before this. She's like, I post on there, but don't DM or comment. I won't respond. And I was like, yeah, my team keeps threatening to do it. And I was like, I just can't, like, there's just I can't do it. YouTube and Instagram are enough, and maybe one is a dying breed, and it's I'm okay, but my people are there because they don't want to do it. You know, so I feel you, millennials unite. Okay. You've given us so much already, but bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Frances Naudé 40:00  As mentioned, learn how to hear and trust your intuition that is going to be that is going to lead you down the best path in any way, if you're in a challenging situation, if you are feeling inspired do that. And so may I give a brief practice for how to do that, because. Lesley Logan 40:02  I would love one, because there are perfectionists listening and they would like the step by step plan, please.Frances Naudé 40:25  Okay, amazing, amazing, amazing. So, yeah, someone telling you, trust your intuition is like someone saying, just be positive, right? It Like It's, it's a great piece of guidance. But how do we do that? So my practice is choose something that you do every single day that's a decision. Okay? So whether it is picking out like, let's say you love a certain flavor of tea, and every morning you like to make your tea, you're going to pick your tea bag, right? They're all the same. What tea bag? What is the tea bag that you're choosing? And then pause once you grabbed it and check in with your body. What does that feel like in your body? You can do this at the grocery store, right? You need, I don't know, five oranges and there's 100 in front of you, right? Which are the five that you're picking? Logic is going to come in a little bit. Maybe that one, the skin is broken, or that one's dirty, or whatever. But between 10 perfect oranges and you're only buying five, when you grab the orange that feels right to you, stop for a second. What does that feel like in your body? What does that feel like in your energy? What does that feel like in your head? Start to practice. I actually practice this with my underwear when I'm choosing my underwear every day, because I know that it's something that I'm going to be doing every single day. What is the underwear? And it's so funny, sometimes I'll touch this black pair and it's not the right one. And so I touch the other black pair. I'm like, yeah, this is the one. There is no I'm like, fathomable reason why the underwear is the right underwear. They're the exact same. But that is my daily practice, because then, when it comes to big decisions, you've already built that muscle. You already know how to use it. You already know how to trust it. Your intuition often will not make logical sense and it will not be loud. People always expect these really big like moments or like the clouds part and the sun shines through. Intuition is really quiet. So step three is, or item number three with that is, it's going to be quiet, but now it's, we have to make space for it. That is the piece to be able to hear it, right? It's, it's so important. So even going back to tarot or meditation or walking outside, or whatever it is, you have to make space to hear your intuition, because, again, building that muscle. When things are loud, you want to already have it built right? It's kind of like. Lesley Logan 42:55  Yeah, I hear you. It's just like it when, when there's so much noise around you, if you aren't attuned to that quiet voice, you're not going to hear it. You have to like, yeah, yeah. That makes so much sense to me. And you are correct. I can think of two times three actually. Now I think three times my life where I heard that intuition, and it is so, so quiet, so quiet. And if you aren't you might could miss it. You can go, what is that? You know?Frances Naudé 43:23  And it also feels, I also like to tell people, your intuition often feels like a thought, but how to be able to differentiate it is, you'll be like, either, yes, it'll be very quiet, or you'll be like, where did that come from? Like, why was I thinking that, right? Oh, and I was saying, like, intuition often leads you down the scary path. Yeah, you know that that the because, it has to. It's expanding that comfort zone. It's getting that wider. It's also going to challenge your beliefs, your old stories that were probably not even written by you, and your fears, right? It's expanding you wider. It's getting you out of that comfort zone. And so as you are learning to work with your intuition, I also encourage you to learn you can choose the word that fits for you. I call it your highest self, but this could be your true self. This could be your soul self, whatever the word is for you, the place that exists without ego. And when I say ego, I mean the human brain, so fears, worries, anxieties, etc. And without we talked about this a lot, without the other, so, other people's stories, other people's fears. A lot of us have other people's fears, specifically our family members, going back, sometimes generations. We don't even know we have them. I work a lot with this in Reiki, where they're not ours. It doesn't even apply to us in our in our situation, but we've been conditioned so making sure that you know who that highest self is, that soul self is. I am Frances, and I, you know we're talking in present tense so I live an intuitively aligned life, which means I let joy lead I do not let fear get in my way, and I live in unity with all that's around me, right? And so if I can identify those three pillars to what my soul self is, every decision I make should be aligned with those three things, and then combine it with that intuitive strength, you're just walking that aligned path like no matter what, it's going to be scary, there's going to be challenges. We're still human. But that is truly like, what I've learned through my personal practice, through working with other people, is that key. So, if nothing else, learn how, like, start developing that intuitive muscle, because it is imperative for daily decisions, and also those, those big ones when they come.Lesley Logan 45:52  Yeah, oh gosh, so good. You're so good. Frances, thank you so much. I can not only imagine, like, how many people down the road are like, thank God I heard that, because I can now say that you trust yourself, and I think that's one of the biggest gifts we can give people today. So thank you for being here and sharing all this with us. Guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Make sure you tag Frances. Tag the Be It Pod, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. I want to know. I definitely want to know what your takeaways are I'm just so grateful for this connection and you guys until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 46:22  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 47:04  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 47:10  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 47:14  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 47:21  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 47:24  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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In this Fuck Yeah Friday episode, Lesley Logan explores why celebrating what you did do—especially when life feels heavy—matters more than chasing the next milestone. Drawing from Your Big Leap Year by Gay Hendricks, listener-submitted wins, and her own experience choosing rest after a demanding tour, she explains how celebration creates dopamine, counters self-criticism, and reinforces autonomy. This episode is a reminder that progress is still progress, even when it looks quiet, slow, or deeply personal.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why celebrating actions strengthens motivation and emotional resilience.Why getting out of bed counts as a real win during difficult life seasons.How celebrating wins disrupts control and people-pleasing patterns.Using preparation and support systems to create space for rest.Letting go of “shoulds” and allowing yourself to celebrate effort.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsBook: Your Big Leap Year by Gay Hendricks – https://a.co/d/cw76HcrEpisode 400: Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/ep400Pilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournal If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Happy FYF, oh my gosh, whoa, second one of the new year, I promise I won't count these every because I'll just all forget at some point, I promise. Thank goodness we don't do a perfect run here. It is the Fuck Yeah Friday episode. We are sharing wins of each other's and celebrating that, like, not like some wins, or just that we got to the week right, a little mantra, and something that was inspiring. So it usually what inspires me on the internet, but I've been I figured I'd start the year with, like, things that inspire me, that are in my life, daily with you. So last week I shared something out of a book that I read every day, and this week I'm sharing out of another book that I read every day, and this book is Gay Hendricks' Your Big Leap Year, Your Big Leap Year. And he was episode 400. I love that we had him as episode 400, team, because it's easy for me to remember which number he was. Oh my gosh, that's 227 episodes ago, but it feels like it was just yesterday. That's an episode you have to go back and listen to. Lesley Logan 1:43  Okay, so, on page 202, of his book, he writes the word celebrate comes from the Latin verb celebrar, which has a number of ancient meanings. To celebrate something is to honor it and to sing the praises of it, whatever the meaning of the words, the actual experience of celebration is what really juices up our experience of living. So your big leap for today. That's why I love this, because it's like, okay, you learn something now you get to go take some action on it, pause several times a day to consciously celebrate what you've created in your life. Each dedicate each time, dedicate a full 10 to 15 seconds to celebrate, to full celebration, which inspired by the dancing nuns who found the mushrooms may include dancing. Oh, that reference is something I wasn't going to read to but I'm gonna read to you now. Okay, so mataki mushrooms are known in Japan as the dancing mushroom. According to a Japanese legend, a group of Buddhist nuns and wood cutters met on a mountain trail where they discovered a fruiting of mataki mushrooms emerging from the forest floor, rejoicing that they discovered the delicious mushroom, they danced to celebrate, and that is from the American mycologist and author, Paul Stamets. So that's probably why the nuns were dancing right 10 to 15 seconds of full celebration. So we talk about FYFs every week, because I do know that when we celebrate something that we did do, we are creating some dopamine in the brain. It makes it easier for us to notice that good things are happening. And it really does take a moment to get us out of like, the cynical nature of what the world, the world wants you cynical, down, depressed and like, why does it matter? Why does it matter? Because if you are being it till you see it each and every week, you won't take their shit, you won't, you won't do it, you won't let people push you around. You won't be a people pleaser anymore, and then they can't control you. Okay? So that is why celebrating what you did do is so freaking important to me for you, because I you are not moldable and controllable that way, right? You're not. You're your own person, and you will inspire so many people. You will inspire so many people. So now we got to celebrate your win. So got a couple for you from you, and they are meganjoyilates, she said, of Australia, I did a magic circle class with my friend Mez. Megan, I know at the time that you sent this in, you're going through a massive life situation, and I am just so freaking thrilled that you sent this in and that you got to do that, but for yourself, but also that, like your proof, we've been we've known each other for years, that like even when shit is going on in your life, you can take time to celebrate something that you did do. And I just love that about you. Creative_soul_Pilates wrote, I got out of bed. Boom, boom. There you have it. I'm telling you guys, sometimes it is like we put so much pressure on ourselves, but like some of you, are going through some crazy things in life. You lost someone in your family. You lost a job like, there's so much unknown, and if you got your you got out of bed, dressed and showered like, that is huge. We had a person in agency who lost, you know, two people really quickly in their lives, back to back and and, you know, and I and she'd ask about, like, still hitting her goals. And I was like, oh my gosh, you got out of bed. Like you took a shower today. Like, those are, you know, huge things. We are human beings living in an experience. And it's hard. It's really hard. So I love that you celebrated that. And I think some some other people, that might be the win for today as well. So my win. We are currently on our way. We're back in the car. We were home for two nights I think, and we're on our way to Los Angeles, and we are picking up some rugs that my publicist gave us when she had a massive win in her life and she was moving, and she was like, I don't want these. Do you want these? I'm like, I do want those. And so we're grabbing these rugs, and then we're going to drive down to Huntington Beach and teach at the Pilates Journal Expo. I'm really excited about that. But my, my win is I came home and did a day of just pure like, self-care, self-love. There's a million things I could do. I have, like, I haven't been in my business the way that I normally am for a month, and there are so many things I could say, I could do this, I could do this, I could do this. But the reality is, the win is that my team and I prepped me so well that I could actually be in my business a little bit so that I could just be present, teaching on this tour. So the tour wrapped. I mean, that's a win, but I've been celebrating like that, like the completion of a culmination of something like there were so many wins along the way. So yay, the tour wrapped. And it was so much fun, it was so much fun. I can't wait to tell you guys more about it. But the win is for today is that, like I did not should all over myself about all the things I should do around the house, and I should do this, and I should do that, and you know what I did? I got up, I did Pilates, I did yoga, got my hair done, and I got my nails done, and I went to the gym. I mean, badass. That was my yesterday. That is my win. I did not go, oh, I need, I should do laundry, and I should do this, and I should make, you know, there's so people to water my plants. There's all I paid people to take care of things, and I let them take care of the things. And I am so proud of myself for doing that, and I'm so proud of just like letting myself have a day because my team and I did a great thing, and you got to take time to rest and enjoy it. I'll tell you more about what I'm doing to rest and enjoy the work that we did next week. So stay tuned. Lesley Logan 7:18  Before I let you go, we actually have an affirmation for you. So let's pull it up. I celebrate the good qualities in others and myself. I celebrate the good qualities in others and myself. I celebrate the good qualities in others and myself and my goodness, my love, I hope you really emphasize the myself. You have a lot of good qualities. You have so many. I hope you take the time to reflect on what those are today. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it, maybe send it to them and say, here are the good qualities that you have in you that I've often don't tell you about, but here they are. It really does make people feel really good about themselves. You get random messages like that. You're amazing. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 7:57  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 8:39  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 8:44  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 8:49  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 8:56  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 8:59  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this interview recap, Lesley and Brad explore June Suepunpuck's insights on joy, identity, and the courage it takes to pause and reassess the life you're living. They reflect on career versus calling, destination addiction, and the role grief plays in meaningful transformation. This episode is a reminder that sustainable joy grows from self-awareness—and the willingness to be honest with yourself.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Understanding the why behind the dream and its impact on fulfillment.The difference between building a career and honoring a calling.Why addressing grief is a necessary part of finding real joy.How to identify one good thing about today even when you're struggling.How to actively question whether the life you are living brings you joy.Episode References/Links:Pilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsPOT in London - https://xxll.co/potHow To Find Joy Podcast - https://howtofindjoy.buzzsprout.comJune Suepunpuck's Website - https://www.joyguidejune.comSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsOnline Pilates Classes on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClassesEpisode 559: David Corbin - https://beitpod.com/ep559 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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And we have to allow for that, and we can't be so afraid of people who could take advantage on either side that we don't do anything at all. Lesley Logan 0:11  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:50  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the delightful convo I had with June Suepunpuck in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now go back and listen to that one. Brad was obsessed with it. He interrupted my work three times a day to tell me how much he appreciated it. So you should go listen to it and then come back and join us, or keep listening and then go listen to that one. Lesley Logan 1:15  Today is January 8th 2026, and it's War on Poverty Day. Brad Crowell 1:20  War on Poverty Day. Lesley Logan 1:21  Okay, ready for it. Annually, on January 8th, we reflect on the impact of the legislation first introduced in 1964 by President Lyndon B. Johnson that collectively expanded economic opportunity through anti poverty, health, education, employment policies. I mean, we can't cosign on this more, I think. Lyndon B. Johnson's War on Poverty was primarily established by the Economic Opportunity Act of 1964.Brad Crowell 1:46  This is a this is a bit nerdy here, but there's a reason to give a little (inaudible). So the EOA.Lesley Logan 1:51  We're gonna rant in a second with some of you like that. But we got to get you on the same page with us. So created the Office of the EO,Brad Crowell 1:59  the Office of Economic Opportunity. So the EOA was the Act created the OEO. So the Office of Economic Opportunity. Lesley Logan 2:07  I guess I thought it was in a office of, like, OEC, but anyways, I don't know what I'm talking about. So I could never work in government, because I get confused with the letters real quick. So Office of Economic Opportunity, OEO, that's like a song, oh, e, o, oh. Anyways, to oversee new programs, I did not take my focus meds today. Key initiatives include the job corpse head. Key initiatives included the Job Corps, Head Start and community action programs, along with funding for vocational training, college work study and local development. Subsequent legislation and programs expanded on this foundation, including the permanent Food Stamp Act of 1964 and the passage of Medicare and Medicaid in 1965.Brad Crowell 2:31  Yeah, so it's possible that you might have heard of the Job Corps. You probably heard of Head Start. You may or may not have heard of community action programs, but you've definitely heard of food stamps, and you've definitely heard of Medicare and Medicaid, right? So all of these came out of LBJ's, War on Poverty program, which included the Economic Opportunity Act of 1964 and.Lesley Logan 3:08  And if you have, if you're not, if you never had experienced like food stamps or Medicare or Medicaid, right? Medicaid is for the babies and Medicare is when you're older, if I'm correct, if you haven't ever had experienced that it might be really easy to not know how people are served by that, how much they're served by it, like, how do they get that? And so if you have any reasons to go, I can't believe they're paying this much on food stamps, I highly educate would educate yourself on how hard people have to work to get these things.Brad Crowell 3:33  Well, we're talking about, we're talking about poverty here. Right? And so, you know, the reality is that it's a it's, it's actually really, really challenging to get out of poverty. Right, 10% of our country currently 11, it's moving up to like 11% or something, is in the place where we would consider them in poverty.Lesley Logan 3:51  Yeah. And if you want to know what that is, I think the US government considers you in poverty if you make under $20,000 as an individual, which, by the way, is $0 like that. How I don't even know where you're living, that you can afford the food at the grocery store and gas and any part of life. So you know, if you are in that place, a lot of people are working full time jobs ending poverty. Brad Crowell 4:15  For a family of four in in the United States in 2025 the Federal Poverty Level is an annual income of $32,150 or less. Lesley Logan 4:24  How do you feed how do you feed four mouths on that amount of money? Brad Crowell 4:24  For the whole year. Lesley Logan 4:24  Yeah, I don't even understand that. Brad Crowell 4:24  Like that's enough for the food. What about. Lesley Logan 4:24  Well. And then we, and then there's these people have the nerve to tell those people, well, they should just eat healthier. How are you affording lettuce and eggs on that amount of money? And then also. Brad Crowell 4:40  You're able to afford a fast food meal because it's $1. Lesley Logan 4:43  Because it's $1. Brad Crowell 4:44  And that's why it's crap.Lesley Logan 4:45  Yeah, so let me just finish our notes, and then we can (inaudible). One definition of poverty is not have enough resources for your basic needs, and it's a huge impact on people's lives in society. It's a huge impact on society. People think all the time like, oh, I don't want to pay for immigrants to have health care. Well, you don't, but you certainly pay when they go to county, when you go to them, they go the hospital, you pay. So, like, we have, we, I actually don't think a country can be rich if you have all.Brad Crowell 5:09  Let's just make a distinction there. We're not paying for, we're not paying for immigrants to have health care, in the sense of, like, are they on insurance going to the doctor. If they go to the emergency room, yes, right, if they go to jail, yeah, we're paying for that, too. Lesley Logan 5:25  And by the way, if you were traveling a different country that happens to have healthcare for all of their people, you also don't pay like my friend, yeah, as a visitor, my friend had an emergency surgery. They fell in the Netherlands in a race, and they did this crazy surgery that would have costed her so much money, no bill. Anyways, that's another day, another day's holiday. So recent studies show that suggests that the poorest states have a poverty rate of up to 18%. I think we can guess what states those are. Poverty can happen to anyone. This is very important. Poverty can happen to anyone, whether it's students who rely on scholarships to claim their right to education, seniors struggling with rising health care costs, or large families struggling to get food on the table. Poverty is a problem that over 40 million Americans are fighting against on a daily basis, and we'll just say as of 2024 we were down to 10.6% from 19% of our country beneath the poverty line in 1964.Brad Crowell 6:18  Yeah, so in 1964 so effectively, like, if you go back and look at the 30s, where there was the Great Depression, they did all of these government programs to help the country, because everything was in the toilet, right? Well, 30 years later, in the 60s, there was a 19% poverty rate, and it was a problem. And so how could they address these problems? They they put into like, that's how LBJ ran on the war on poverty, and he started to implement these things to support the country, right? And it's taken a long time for us to get down to 10% poverty, 10 and a half percent, yeah, you know. And that was what was happening as of last year. And now things are shifting in the wrong direction. Lesley Logan 6:57  Yeah. And there. And also, by the way, we were, we were recording this before the Thanksgiving holiday. And so what we do know is, on January 1st, everyone's healthcare bills are going up. Ours, we are very lucky that ours only went up 3000 for the year, for the two of us.Brad Crowell 7:09  Yeah, it's, well, it's 25%. Ours went up 25%.Lesley Logan 7:12  Yeah, that is insanity. That is insanity. And can we afford it? Sure, we're just gonna invest less in our retirement, I guess. Like, you know, it's not like, it's that money just doesn't come from somewhere. And what I also know is that there are people in certain states that theirs is going up 48%, and some people are making $85,000 a year. Their health insurance is going to cost $44,000 a year. So we're going to see poverty go up. And if we don't start thinking about it as a way that, like, I think that a lot of people think about people taking like they get these things, and they're taking from the government, and that's coming from your tax dollars. But if we don't help people get ahead, they will always be taking in different ways, right? And so your crime will go up. Why? Because people have to sleep and eat and be warm like they just have to. So we have to think of it as a holistic thing. And I really think that I love what LBJ did, and I love that we're honoring this. And I think like we could be doing so much better by now. I feel like if LBJ was alive, I would hope he'd be disappointed that we don't actually have preschool for every child in the US for free, like Head Start in Vegas, my nail tech, it's a lottery. So some of her kids got Head Start, and some of her kids didn't. And she's like, Lesley, I can tell you a difference in my children my kids can read levels above where their greatest and some of them are behind and and she's like, I can't, I can't teach them that that's not something I didn't teach them, that they learned that at school when they got to earlier. So I just think that we could be doing a better job, and especially, like, we should be thinking about people who'd have less than us and not, how do we give them more? Like, yes, any more money, but how do we actually set them up so that they can do other things? They need trainings, they need childcare. They need it to be they need busses to be free, you know, like, there's just different things we can do. So anyways.Brad Crowell 8:58  Yeah, it's that this is this is a tough thing, you know, like, if you look at the I'm not going to keep going, because I could keep going on. But this, this is definitely a challenging thing. I'm, you know, I'm glad that we have attempted to address it over the years. I don't admit, I don't, I can't, I can't convincingly say that we've done an amazing job of the process of doing it, you know, like, but I, but I think the intention is the right intention, and we should be always looking for ways to make it better. Lesley Logan 9:22  And also, I think, you know, that's exactly the right line, like we're just always looking for ways to make it better, you're going to have people who are going to have nefarious acts that they're using the money for or not doing it correctly. You cannot always be thinking only about those people, because they're always a small percentage. You have to be thinking about the greater good. And then when you figure out how people are usurping the system or doing different things. Okay, you make changes.Brad Crowell 9:43  Well, let's, let's talk about this like I think this is important, because there's always going to be someone taking advantage of the system. But I think even defining it as a percentage seems misleading, because I would imagine the numbers are minutes. We're talking 40 million people in the United States are considered poverty line or below. 40 million people. So even if 10,000 people are taking advantage of it, that sounds like a lot of people, but the percentage is microscopic compared to 40 million.Lesley Logan 10:05  Correct. And also, I wasn't even thinking about the people like this is, right, I think people are thinking about the people on food stamps or whatever, like the Reagan years of all that disgusting rhetoric, but I was actually thinking about, like, the companies that are pretending to help people, to get the government money to do these things, I was actually thinking about like, you know, there are people who can say, Oh, I'm going to do these things with this program and get that money, but I think you just you, you learn from what you did, and you do better the next time. And we have to allow for that, and we can't be so afraid of people who could take advantage on either side that we don't do anything at all? Brad Crowell 10:43  Yeah. Okay, well, hey, thanks for joining us on that journey. That was a journey, that was a history lesson. Lesley Logan 10:48  I just get really upset about this. I was poor. I was so poor, you know. And I was, I guess I was lucky that my parents weren't on any of these stamps, whatever, because they had family to help. But, like, this is how my life started, so I can't even imagine, was, like, if they didn't have that help.Brad Crowell 11:02  Yeah, yeah. Well, I appreciate your passion, and I think it's important. I love it. I really do. I mean. Lesley Logan 11:09  Well, I mean, like, I would, I would not have gone to college had my best friend's parents not cosign a student loan. You know, like, I happen to have those people, and that's why I get to be where I am today. So I'm, I think that, like, I think a lot of people don't realize how close they were growing up, or people in their lives were to being poor, like impoverished. So, January, hi.Brad Crowell 11:30  Let's talk about upcoming events. We're shifting gears. Lesley Logan 11:33  We're home, today we're home. Brad Crowell 11:34  It's January. Today is the eighth we just we are pulling in from tour tonight. Lesley Logan 11:39  We are fixing the roots, changing the nails. Well, they're my nails, but they're getting new they're getting an update.Brad Crowell 11:45  Yeah. And then tomorrow. Lesley Logan 11:45  We drive down to Huntington Beach. Brad Crowell 11:45  We hit the road again. Lesley Logan 11:46  We're leaving Bayon, we're leaving Bayon, and we're we're driving to Huntington Beach for the Pilates Journal Expo. You can go to xxll.co/pilatesjournal. I don't know why I stuttered there, but I thought I said them. That's completely wrong. xxll.co/pilatesjournal. So if there's any spots left, you should totally join us there. There's like, the lineup is insane. Brad Crowell 12:08  Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. Lesley Logan 12:09  The lineup's insane. Then, oh, you know what? We'll tell you this, but I'm pretty sure tomorrow it releases. So you want to get on the waitlist for next year's Cambodia retreat, because.Brad Crowell 12:20  No, this year's. Lesley Logan 12:21  This year's, oh, it's this year. Well, you need to change that copy, my friend. You want to get on the waitlist for this year's Cambodia retreat details. We'll be having early bird presale right now. In fact, if my memory serves me correctly, it starts tomorrow, but only for those on the waitlist, crowsnestretreats.com is where you go. Brad Crowell 12:40  I thought it was the 12th, but it could be the ninth. Lesley Logan 12:43  I think it's the ninth. Brad Crowell 12:44  Anyway, get on the waitlist, crowsnestretreats.com you'll find the waitlist there. Lesley Logan 12:46  This is what happens when we're recording early. Okay, then next month we have Agency Mini. It'll be happening this year's February, and you want to get on the waitlist for that, for it prfit.biz/mini who is it for? It is for the teachers, Pilates teachers and studio owners who work for themselves or want to, and they want to have ease in their business, without the overwhelm, and they actually want to be in control of things and not feel like they're always like reacting, because that's annoying in the business. So pfit.biz/mini we only are doing Mini, I don't know, maybe twice this year, but for sure, one. Brad Crowell 13:17  The plan, the plan is two times in 2026. Lesley Logan 13:19  Okay, great. Well, you don't want to miss this one. You'll go, oh, I'll do the next one because that could be, that could be the fall. I don't even know what it's going to be. Oh, it's going to be the fall. We could find out on the flight.Brad Crowell 13:26  Yeah, end of Q3 beginning of Q4. Lesley Logan 13:30  And then. Brad Crowell 13:30  So, but the point is this, why wait another six months? It's, we're talking it's early it's going to be early bird. Lesley Logan 13:38  By the way, it's only $25 when it's early bird, and it's $65 full price. If what we teach you makes you an extra. Brad Crowell 13:43  $25 Lesley Logan 13:46  Over six months. No, I was gonna say, do the math like, okay, six months is what? 26 weeks? 26 weeks, right? 24 weeks this I'm not a mathematician, so 24. Let's say, let's just say, all we do is make you an extra $100 a week. That's $2,400 you're fucking welcome, for 25 bucks go to prfit.biz/mini then in March, Brad and I are taking off to Europe for a month. I'm teaching the Poland Controlology Pilates conference with Karen Frischmann, xxll.co/poland and then the next week, where Karen and I are in Brussels. Brad's joining us along for the ride. xxll.co/brussels we're super excited about both events are selling really fast. I think our sessions are very much taken in Brussels, but there might be some spots left in Poland and then, okay, we've been saying, like, I don't know if we can announce it yet. I don't know. Well, here's what I do know. As of December 2nd, it was official to announce that we were going to be in London. So it's a few can now buy your ticket. And I don't know if the early bird is happening still or not, because I don't know anything, but I do know we'll be there. And I have workshops, I have a booth, you going to want to go to xxll.co/pot, so go there. Okay. Brad Crowell 15:00  Awesome. Lesley Logan 15:00  We have an audience question. I promise not to take too long.Brad Crowell 15:02  We sure do. Yeah. Instagram, (inaudible) reached out asking if OPC has a certificate of training online, and she said she wants it to be a Pilates instructor, mostly for knowledge. So she's not trying to be a teacher. She wants it as a practitioner to know specifically for herself. Do we have any recommendations? Lesley Logan 15:24  Well, I love this question, because I always want to do this with Anthony for yoga, like I always wanted him to teach a yoga training, but just for people who just wanted to learn it better and not be a teacher, because almost every teacher training that I've ever heard of in life is going to teach you how to teach it. And so what I would say is I don't know of a program that does that, especially online, that's going to be solid that I know about. I know that the Pilates Center out of Boulder does have online trainings, but again, they're going to train you to teach it, and there's going to be requirements for you to teach it. So what I would probably also just encourage you to do, because this is something that I realized now that we've trained with Anthony for over 10 years, is that the more you just do classical Pilates with us at OPC, you will become more educated and knowledgeable about the practice, especially for your body. So what I would actually suggest, and I know this sounds like a shameless plug, but seriously. Now at OPC, we follow Joseph Pilates' orders on all the pieces of equipment. And yes, there's other equipment that we don't talk about in OPC classes, but you can always ask us about them. And you can take advantage of the FFF and submit videos of you doing exercises, and I will give you specialized feedback for your practice so you're more knowledge about your body. You can come to the live class every month, and ask questions for your practice, and I will answer that for your body, and you can get the flash cards. So you do those things.Brad Crowell 16:46  So do, do we have a certificate of training online? No, but I don't know that you need one the tools that we've created will will support you in your goal, yeah, which you know we're assuming is to further your personal practice. Lesley Logan 17:01  And if you're like, I don't want to pay you a dime, LL, great. Our YouTube videos are free. Go have fun. You can do it between the flash cards and the YouTube videos. You can really understand it for your practice. You don't need to pay thousands of dollars for training where you only want half of the information. That's what I would do. If you would like to ask me a question. You can go to 310-905-5534, you can text us, call us, or you can go to beitpod.com/questions and send one in. Brad Crowell 17:24  Love it. Lesley Logan 17:25  And you can send your win in because I really love seeing those. All right. Brad Crowell 17:29  Stick around. We'll be right back.Brad Crowell 17:31  All right, now, let's talk about June Suepunpuck. Okay, June is a joy guide. She's a speaker, and she's the host of the How to Find Joy Podcast. She helps high achieving, heart-led leaders who have reached the top and still find themselves asking, is this it? Or what's the point? With a background in psychology and tools like human design and nervous system healing, June guides people through the process of reassessing their goals, addressing destination addiction of finding fulfillment in daily life rather than in the next achievement. This conversation lit me on fire because I, I'm I'm telling you, we've had a handful of other guests that talked about joy, and we had the doctor who was doing the research on it, and I was, like, really intrigued by that, but I don't know this. I really connected with the way that she talked and spoke and the things that she dug into. So I'm very excited to discuss this. So tell me what you loved about this convo.Lesley Logan 18:33  Okay, so we, I mean, there's so many different things, but like, I really love that she found a way to articulate the difference between, like, a career versus a calling. And that, like, you know, once you figure out what your calling is, it becomes, oh, it becomes really clear, like, this is the point. She said, like, this is the point, why we do it. I also love that she emphasize differentiate, differentiating between career versus calling, because it's, like, the important, because it's a why behind the dream, and it will determine if the result, the resulting fulfillment, will be fleeting or sustainable. So because if you're not clear on the dream, then it's really easy for us to, like, have an achievement, and then literally, three minutes later, go on to something else and a whole other feeling, like we've all done that, right? We're like, have this amazing high. And then you need a text message like, oh, fuck, right. And then, like, the high is gone. Where'd the high go? It's just totally gone. So, you have to have that clarity. Because I will say, like, I feel like I'm very much doing my calling. And the more I get clear on, like, not just what we what I know, I've always known what we're doing and why we're doing it, but the more you work on it, the more you're like, oh, I can make this better. Oh, we this could be the next thing that we do. And even on the hardest days you feel fulfilled, is more sustainable than like, going with the highs and lows of the business, like, I can have a good day only when the business has a good day. Brad Crowell 19:52  Yeah, I think, I think, like to clarify the career versus the calling thing. You know, it's put it into context, I think. She specifically meant. Mentioned her the influence of her parents on her college direction, you know, which is very typical for a first generation American, right? Her parents emigrated here. She was born here, and then what did they tell her, you got to be a doctor, basically, right? Lesley Logan 20:17  I know I had friends whose parents like, you can do whatever you want. I'm like, what? I'm not a first generation American. I was the first person to go to college like you figure out a degree that pays this bill back. That's what you have to do. Brad Crowell 20:28  Well, the the so for her, she, you know, it's like, now, go pursue your goals is what she said. And I listened to that part twice because I thought this is really interesting, you know, because she started saying, well, are these actually my goals? I don't know that these are my goals. I don't know. Am I excited about this at all? Right? This is going to put me on a career path that's going to make me probably the money that, you know, my parents want me to have, which is great, or the whatever that my parents want to have, awesome. But you know, is this my calling? And the answer is most likely no. So career versus calling in that sense, right? And she said, why are we doing the career? What is it about it? Right? We're, we're been told, Well, that's going to get you the financial independence, the house, the car, the money, the whatever, you know. And then, because you're in a parent child relationship, you know, how are you supposed to say, No, that's tough, right?Lesley Logan 21:20  Yeah, oh, I don't think, I don't even know that you she had the opportunity to you just, you don't have the life experience to know you can.Brad Crowell 21:27  Yeah, sure, and, you know, and then and then, and then, and then, what happens? Then, like, you know, you have your midlife crisis, and you're like, I hate everything about what I'm doing, you know, because once you've gotten the money, once you've had the time in the career. Does it make you happy? Probably not. Probably not. So now you're disenchanted, because you're like, Well, what the hell I thought that when I got here, it was going to be different. I was going to feel happy and fulfilled and better and ready to go, and I'm not. I don't feel that at all. So now, why am I doing it? And that's when people blow up their lives. And I really appreciate it when you and her were both talking about this moment where kaboom, right, quit everything, all of it, or it fell apart around you, you know, like in your case, it started with one decision you made, and then all these other things happening on top of it.Lesley Logan 22:13  Yeah, I like detonated something, and then like that detonated a lot of things. Brad Crowell 22:13  Yeah. So, you know, and I appreciated you sharing your story then, because I thought that was really, really awesome. But you know, the differentiating between the career versus the calling is important because of the why behind the dream and really knowing the dream. How do you know your dream? You need to know yourself, right? And that's, that's really tough.Lesley Logan 22:39  Yeah, I mean, like, I think that's where people are really struggling, is, like, getting to know themselves. I don't think, like, I think that a lot of people have been being, especially women who listen this podcast, right? Like, like, they have been trying to be the perfect daughter, perfect wife, perfect sister, perfect employee. Like, don't take up too much space. And like, now they're, they're 40s plus, and they're like, I'm fucking tired of that. But then it's like, okay, what? Okay, then, who am I? Right, right? Yeah, you know. So it's not, it's not the easiest thing, but I think it's the most essential thing to figure out.Brad Crowell 23:12  Yeah, yeah. 100% and, and, you know, so, and then there's a couple of other paths here, right? If you've hit that point of, like, I hate what I'm doing, you know, and you make a change, you know, there's, it's terrifying, it's scary. There's all these things. And that's when I, when I was really, you know, intrigued, because she said, yes, I coach people on finding joy. But I'm actually also like, a grief coach too, because when you make a change, there is grieving that happens. It just does, like, there's no way around it, right? And so what I really liked, when she was talking about this, she said, you can't it's kind of like what Anthony said, you can't have, you know, war without peace. You can't have light without dark. You can't have good without bad, right? You can't have these things. You need that polarity and joy was, was reiterating that. She said experiencing deep grief is actually necessary, because you wouldn't have understood how joyful you can be if you haven't personally experienced those dark places. I mean, I personally connected with this in my with my journey, with my story, where my, you know, I thought I was happy with my my old relationship, everything went to ship, and then I was incredibly set right, and now I have this marker in my life where I'm like, I am so much in a different place from where I was after that. And I can, I can measure against that and go barometer of in the shit versus not even close to that anymore. I am very happy today with who I am now because I had that negative experience, so.Lesley Logan 24:52  Yeah, I do think like and I think, I think it's really easy when you're in the grieving part to just go, Well, this is all happening for a reason. Correct it is. It doesn't mean you don't, you skip the part where you feel it, you know, like, and I also think it's really easy for us to want for others to not feel those things. We're like, trying to help people out in our lives from like, we try to make sure they don't make the same mistake as us. And so then we end up telling them things that make them just like, doubt what they're doing, and it's so important that, like, I remember one of the coaches we had said you can't take someone's rock bottom away, and I think that, like, you've got to be there for people when they hit it, but you kind of got to let people experience it, otherwise they're going to hit it again.Brad Crowell 25:34  Yeah, but I think there's a second step here, and I think I agree with you 100% and I think it's important for you can't take away someone's rock bottom, no, because otherwise you're just enabling them. And they're gonna they're never gonna change or learn or transform. But there's a second part of transformation after you hit the rock bottom, you have to address the grief.Lesley Logan 25:54  That you will that goes back to what June was saying. You have to. A lot of people, don't, I think they just like, want to skip over to the feeling good part.Brad Crowell 26:01  Right. And, and addressing the grief is where the self-reflection happens, the the analysis of, where were you and that you know, where were you before the shit? How did you get into the shit? Like, how do we not want to be in the shit, and now that we're now, how do we get out of it, right? And, and there's a lot of, that's right.Lesley Logan 26:01  Who do we need to see or who are you going to ask for help or. Brad Crowell 26:24  Self-reflection. Lesley Logan 26:25  Yeah, I will. There you go. That goes back to the same other thing as, like, people don't know themselves. This helps with that, because you, you, well, it's inside you, but you can't always articulate it, like, sometimes it comes out better in a journal.Brad Crowell 26:40  Yeah, sure. I mean, there's a lot of different methods to to get it out of your head, get it out of your you know, subconcsious. Lesley Logan 26:45  There was that one guy who tries to grab a journal, but close your eyes and just write what was coming up with your eyes closed. Lesley Logan 26:50  Oh, that's interesting. Lesley Logan 26:51  It was like David, somebody on the pod, like David Grove Gore Groban. Starts with a G. It was in the last 100 episodes.Brad Crowell 26:51  It's in the last 100 episodes.Lesley Logan 26:51  But I liked it. I like the idea of that, like there's different ways to do self-reflection. And when you self reflect, it allows you to know yourself, which allows you. Brad Crowell 27:08  Corbin. Lesley Logan 27:09  Corbin, not Groban, okay. So you can the more you know yourself, the more you're gonna understand, not just like your calling, but also how you experience joy and grief. Yeah.Brad Crowell 27:22  Yeah, awesome. Well, anyway, I, I, I would suggest going back and watching this episode again or listening to this episode again. Really, really awesome. Lesley Logan 27:30  She's so authentic. I really enjoyed her. Yeah.Brad Crowell 27:33  Yeah, and also very willing to be transparent. That's great. Lesley Logan 27:37  Yeah I was like, whoa. So, like, I so appreciate her transparency, because usually people come on and they like, be her like, they, like, they, they, for lack of better word, like, like, they whitewash the experience. Like I was here and now I'm here, and it's like, okay, but hold on, how do we get here? And they like, are so good at like, going around it? And she's like, nope, this is the it. This is how it was. And I, I really enjoyed that.Brad Crowell 27:58  Yeah. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we have some great be it action items from June. Brad Crowell 28:05  Welcome back, welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items that we got from your conversation with June. So what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from that convo? She suggested journaling, but she gave some very specific journaling tips, which we love here. Lesley Logan 28:25  She's a fan of the show, so she knows the rules. Brad Crowell 28:27  Although, yeah, yeah, absolutely, although, ironically, she was, she was myth-busting the perfectionism. I was really interested in listening to her first season of her podcast because she was trying to, like, break down the steps of how to be joyful. And in season two, she's basically already decided there's no one way to do it. And this entire way that I thought that I was creating in season one, I don't think I agree with myself anymore, and I was laughing about that. So sorry, perfectionist, but this, I thought, was a very actionable tip. She said, identify one good thing about today. One good thing about today. It's not a gratitude journal. This is she because she believes that gratitude is very hard to reach when you're struggling. So you're just identifying one good thing about today. You're focusing on only the one good thing, such as, I woke up tonight, or I woke up today. You know, provides a vital step on the path towards joy, even when deeper feelings of appreciation or joy feel very out of reach. So thought that was a great simple like just baby step kind of a thing to to support, especially if you're looking at everything as scary or frustrating. So, yeah. What about you?Lesley Logan 29:36  Okay. This is huge. I think this is amazing. Ready? Stop lying to yourself. That's what she says. Be It Action Item. We've never had anyone say this. And I was like, yeah, actually, that's probably the best way to be it until you see it. Stop lying to yourself. Where are you lying to yourself in your life? You need to get honest. You must figure this out. And she said, actively question the life you are currently living by asking, are you living this life that is your dream? Is it expired? Does it still even bring you joy? And so there's ways to find yourself and discover this new version of yourself that can support by reaching you can get support by reaching out to her and get support and go to therapy. But I love this, like, where am I living? Is this the life that I wanted to live? Is it the life that I wanted to live while did it expire? Did I did I move on from a new life to a new life? Does it even bring me joy? We only get this one life, you know, that's what we know.Brad Crowell 30:29  I remember this made me think back to my childhood dream, where they're like, what do you want to be when you grow up? You know, and everyone's like an astronaut, firefighter.Lesley Logan 30:38  My sister said, an adult. Brad Crowell 30:39  Brilliant. I told everyone I was going to be a professional soccer player, and I was preaching that since I was, like, six years old and. Lesley Logan 30:48  You mean, you could have done it, babe. Brad Crowell 30:49  I could have done it, except that when I got into high school and I was 75 pounds, it was pretty tough for me to be able to muscle people off the ball. So it became pretty, pretty quick that physically, it was gonna be really challenging for me to be able to compete. Lesley Logan 31:04  But look at you now. Brad Crowell 31:05  Look at me now. Lesley Logan 31:06  You, maybe you're, maybe you're a late bloomer.Brad Crowell 31:09  Pro soccer. Here I come, 43 I got this. Lesley Logan 31:12  Require you to be so consistent. Brad Crowell 31:15  But I, but I, yeah, which, which you know that's, well, that's my MO, consistency, but, but here's the here's the reality is that I also wasn't really enjoying it in my teens as much anymore. When I was a kid, all I wanted to do was soccer. I loved it. I went out, I juggled, I did the backyard thing, all that stuff. I was excited about it. But when I got in my teens, I was not as excited, not as enthusiastic. I was doing it because I thought I had to. So, you know, it was interesting to shift. Same thing happened with my music career, where I was like, I define myself as a musician. This is the only thing I actually ever want to do with my life. And then years later, I was like, well, I kind of want to do other things too. You know, is this really giving me the joy? And there are definitely pieces of the music element that I missed, don't get me wrong, for sure, but also too, I'm so grateful that I was willing to redefine who I am, how I am, because it really wasn't bringing me the joy that I thought it was and or that it initially did. So yeah, yeah, stop lying to yourself. Very, very tough. Lesley Logan 32:14  I love it. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 32:15  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 32:16  Thanks so much for listening to this, you know, our rants, to our favorite takeaways, to our episodes. Who are you going to share this episode with? I would certainly share June's first and then this one. And because your friends need to hear it, they need to hear these Be It Action Items. They need to hear these things and it allows us to have not just friendships where we cheer each other on, but friendships we can hold each other accountable. So we can be it till we see it together. So you know what to do, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 32:46  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 32:42  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 33:24  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 33:29  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 33:34  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 33:41  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 33:44  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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In this FYF episode, Lesley Logan opens the new year by honoring beginnings without forcing reinvention. Inspired by Journey to the Heart, she explores how reflection, intentional letting go, and curiosity can shape a more grounded start. Through listener wins, her own tour reflections, and a powerful mantra, this episode offers a calm, empowering way to step into the year ahead—without erasing who you already are.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Honoring beginnings without turning them into pressure.Choosing updates and upgrades instead of New Year reinvention.Letting go of what no longer belongs in this next chapter.Staying present and enjoying the journey while on tour.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsBook: Journey to the Heart by Melody Beattie - https://a.co/d/75bOwAZBook: Your Big Leap Year by Gay Hendricks - https://a.co/d/7KY1pfkEpisode 589: Brad Bizjack - https://beitpod.com/ep589Mantra - https://www.instagram.com/miche_427 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. Oh my God, it is the first, it's the first FYF of a new year. So, happy fucking new year. Happy Fuck Yeah Friday. Oh my gosh, if you had to, like, actually go to work. I hope you get the longest weekend. Because, like, why would you have to go in today? Okay, so if you are new to our podcast and you're dropping on today, this is the short, sweet and off the cuff episode where I celebrate wins of yours a win of mine. So we can see that, like, wins exist all the time. Actually have something for you guys next week where I'm sharing something that is really like, is really like the be it till you see it and why, well, celebrating is so important. And a little inspiration, a little mantra, okay? So I wanted to take the inspiration on day one of this book, Journey to the Heart from Melody Beattie, that I really love. It's like one of those, like daily meditation books. I have three of these. And because I'm I'm recovering over achiever, and I read three daily, you know, we're getting there. I actually will say one of them I'm almost done with, and I don't need to reread it, or two of, like this one I reread every year. So because I miss some days and you gotta, so I'll just explain, if you because you're not watching. So it's one of those things, like on January one, there's one to read January two, blah, blah, blah. And she even has one, one that's a leap year, so it's pretty cool. And I have Gay Hendricks' book Your Big Leap Year, which I love, because I love reading his book every single year. And this one feels like I'm reading his book all year long, and that's really fun. And then I have this other one that's cute and it's sweet, and it's like, sometimes it just hits the wrong way. So I'm finishing it and I'm giving it away, because I think it'll be good for somebody else. Just doesn't hit me, right, well, so I'll have two and then I'm, you've heard like I went as I have a hobby, you know? And one of my hobbies is like pulling a daily card and percolating on it on my walk, which I'm that's like the hobby that I'm going to start in this new year, once I'm home, I'm not home yet, so can't do that. Lesley Logan 2:40  So January one, this is what she said, and I wanted to share with you. Honor the beginning. Beginnings can be delicate or explosive. They can start almost invisibly or arrive with a big bang. Beginnings hold the promise of new lessons to be learned, new territory to be explored, and old lessons to be recalled, practiced and appreciated. Beginnings hold ambiguity, promise, fear and hope. Don't let the lessons, the experience of the past, dampen your enthusiasm for beginnings. Just because it's been hard doesn't mean it will always be that difficult. Don't let the heart breaks of the past cause you to be cynical, close you up to life's magic and promise. Open yourself wide to all the universe has to say. Let yourself begin anew. Pack your bags. Choose carefully what you bring, because packing is an important ritual. Take along some humility of the lessons of the past. Toss in some curiosity and excitement about what you haven't yet learned. Say your goodbyes to those who are you're leaving behind. Don't worry who you will meet or where you will go. The way has been prepared. The people you are to meet will be expecting you. A new journey has begun. Let it be magical. Let it unfold. All parts of the journey are sacred and holy. Take time now to honor the beginning. So that is for January one. If you get the book, you can read January two. Anyways, I make nothing off of it. I love this book, Journey to the Heart. So I like to start this episode off each week with like something that inspired me. Sometimes it inspires me in like a fiery way, and sometimes it inspires me in like a way worth reflecting. And it's really easy for us as we begin this new year to kind of bring in last year's stuff, right? And I actually don't believe in New year, new you. I actually believe in updates and upgrades and and I also actually don't even believe that it starts on the first year. You can start at any time. I mean, like, my cell phone has a new update all the time, and it's like, okay, it's a new year for that cell phone. It's a new cycle. So whether or not you're coming to this year with excitement and joy, of like, what could become or fear because of what could continue. I do think it's important to recognize beginnings, and I do think it's good to reflect about what we are unpacking, like, what aren't we taking from last year into this year? That doesn't mean you're a new person, it just means you no longer have that thing. And maybe that is a physical clean out of something you own, or maybe it's a mental letting go, cutting the cord. But I do hope that you take some time for that, and I think that's what's so fun about these FYFs. It's like each week can be one thing that we let go of, or add to, and that isn't overwhelming, right? It's not so overwhelming. So that's something for you to think about. Lesley Logan 5:25  Wins. I've got some wins that were sent in. All right. shannanlikestomove wrote in she wrote, "Big maintenance event on both reformers. Old grease boogers gone. New grease in!" I love it. Isn't that so fun, you guys? A win can just be that you cleaned your reformer because, oh my God, doesn't that take up so much space? on_point_pilates_studio wrote, "Got in the hot sauna today! Self-care for the win" Yeah. I mean, there's so many different things you could have been doing right? On_point, you could have been like, I could pay this bill, I could check this email. But you're like, no, I'm getting that hot sauna. And etain.pilates wrote, "Honestly, I just made it through a challenging week." You know, that's a win. That is a win, just like you made it through and it is Friday and you got to the end, and so good on you. All right, a win of mine. We are still on tour. We are on the last days of the tour, and my win is, I'm still enjoying myself. I'm still enjoying myself. I think it there, there's this idea that, like, if other people have other things going on and there's terrible things happening in the world, then I can't have more good and an excellent episode with Brad Bisjack, in one of his courses, he actually said, like, people said, I feel bad wanting to have more when, like so many people have less. And his response is like, nobody wins when you play small. And I really do appreciate every single one of these stops that we get to do, because I know, like, I learn every time I teach, every time I meet people and I teach like, I learn from the question they ask. I learn from the environment. I learn from looking at their body's move. I learn from their learning style understanding what I'm saying, like, oh, that's how you took that. That's so fascinating. That's not what I meant, like I learn from all that. And so I also love that these pop ups can come in the middle of a crazy week for someone, and can be a positive stop to the chaos. And so they're so important to me that that we do them because it can be the pause that someone needs, the cup feeling that someone needs. I love doing that for people, and I love that my win is, is that I'm still enjoying myself along the way, because it is so easy for the questions of, aren't you tired? And I know that those questions are meaningful, but every time someone asks, aren't you tired? Aren't you tired? Aren't you tired? Like it's so easy for the brain to latch onto that and go, am I tired? I'm like, no, I'm having a great time. I'm having a great time. And that is my win. I'm not letting the societal pressures and questions of like, I should be tired by now, and I, you know, all this different stuff, get to me. I'm actually allowing myself to be so present and in the moment and enjoy what we put together, and what my team has put together, and all of the people that have come and the impact we're making, like I'm enjoying all of it, and that's my win. Lesley Logan 8:26  So, now, your mantra for today. This mantra actually came from an Instagram comment that is couple I'll just be honest. It's a couple months back, but you know, we're getting it to you now. This is from me.shay_427. My body is not my resume. My body is not my resume. My body is not my resume. I love this mantra so much I especially wanted, I saved it for this first FYF, because I think the pressures of society, especially with all that's going on, is like you've got to be just thinner and thinner and thinner and, my goodness, you guys, they want us so busy, like, distracting ourselves with self hate and all the stuff that we have to change about ourselves that we aren't noticing all the things they're trying to take from us. They don't want you playing big, because then you will take up their version of the pie. There's no pie. There's no pie of power, there's no pie of money, there's no pie of energy, and so take up all the fucking space, okay, and your body is not a resume. So go have a great day. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. It would help this podcast grow very, very much. And I hope you're enjoying the series we've got going on. We've got some other series coming up. And have an amazing day Until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 9:52  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 10:34  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 10:39  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 10:44  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 10:51  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 10:54  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The start of a new year often comes with pressure to overhaul everything at once—but health and wellness habits do not work that way. In the final episode of the Habits Series, Lesley Logan breaks down how to choose habits that truly support your future self instead of chasing trends, rules, or social media “shoulds.” She explains why wellness habits must be personal, adaptable, and rooted in how you want to feel—not how you think you should look. This conversation invites you to slow down, remove judgment, and build health habits that actually serve you for the long haul.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Wellness habits should fuel energy hydration and recovery first.Choosing habits based on future you rather than current trends.Why judgment and shame prevent habits from sticking long term.Adding health habits slowly to protect consistency and physical recovery.Replacing outdated habits with supportive routines that fit your life.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions Episode 610: Amy Ledin - https://beitpod.com/ep610Episode 617: Brad Crowell - https://beitpod.com/ep617Episode 601: Rachel Varga - https://beitpod.com/ep601 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:49  Hi, Be It babe. Welcome back to our bonus episodes on habits. We had some requests on habits, topics around travel habits and traveling, and then also health and wellness habits. And so if you haven't yet listened to all the top tips on how to create habits that actually stick, go listen to episodes one through six. We're actually giving you strategies, and also Amy Ledin and our recap episode, because we talk about the healthy the way that she creates habits too. It's important because you're going to hear sometimes you hear things the same thing I'm saying from someone else, for it to stick, because we all have different words that activate something in us, right? So you don't have to listen to that stuff to actually get them out of this episode. But it does help if we're on the same page of like, how habits are created, it can help that being said, all right, health and wellness habits. And if you have a topic that you're wanting me to do a habits talk on there's a help you need with that. Then send it in to beitpod.com/questions we can add another bonus episode, or I can answer it on a recap episode. You also can send in your wins on how the habits are going that you've been creating. And I am a I I'm kind of obsessed with habits, because habits have created the schedule that allows me to become the person that I'm so desiring to be in every single day. I get closer and closer to being that girl, and I have, that woman, and I have so much more clarity around the leader that I want to be for this business. And that helps me go, okay, well, hold on, what about her? What does she have that I'm not doing yet? And then that helps me create different habits in my day and let go of habits in my day that are no longer serving me, because, you know, guess what? We're all getting older. Can promise you that it doesn't mean we're getting old. I don't even think 100 year old is old, you know, but like, we are getting older. And so as we get older, there's things that we need more of and things that we can use less of, right? Lesley Logan 2:38  And when it comes to the topic of health and wellness, I think there's, I'm not going to go through an exhaustive list, because there'll be things that you think are part of health and wellness that I might not have thought about. But also what I want to make sure of is that, like I'm trying to be cognizant of not saying what a healthy habit is, because there's no such thing. There's just habits that serve you and habits that don't serve you and something that someone might deem as unhealthy habit might actually serve you. And so so it's really important that we like are clear on that, and we're honest about that, and we get some we articulate it for ourselves in a way that doesn't allow judgment and shame, because where judgment and shame are, I promise you know habit that you want to create is there, and I also know that you're not listening to this podcast hoping that you become someone who just judges and shames all the time, like that's not going to be fun, right? Lesley Logan 3:27  Okay, so health and wellness habits are going to be things that have to do with sleep. They're gonna have to be there and be things that have to do with water and fuel intake. They're gonna be things that fall under movement practices, and they'll be things that can even go under skin care, right? Things like that. I am a 42-year-old woman who's turning 43 probably around the series is releasing so there are, there are habits that I have incorporated in the health and wellness category of my life based on perimenopause and how it affects me. And after perimenopause, I will have to review, and maybe even as it goes closer to menopause, review the habits that I have and things that we do and and in the health and wellness category, and not just because of how I want to look, but more importantly, because of how I want to feel. And so before you get into too many details about health and wellness habits, on this topic today, this episode, I do want you to take a moment you can pause if you're thinking of a future you that you're trying to be, what health and wellness habits does she have or he have, or they have? Right? What does a day, a morning, an afternoon, evening, look like for that person, not based on what you think you can do, but what you wish you were doing. What would make you feel good? What makes that person feel good, right? So when you have that, then you can run one of the things that you're like, oh, I'm not doing that, and I want to do that. Okay, then go back through our habits series. And take the proper steps to add that in. But I'll just share, like, when you hit perimenopause and every single thing in your algorithm is telling you all the different things you have to do, and holy moly, will fucking make you crazy. It's like women should be doing creatine. Actually, they should be doing two times the creatine. Oh, the there's people who say Pilates can't do anything for you, but it's good if you do it, but you just have to make sure you're lifting weights. Like, like lifting weights is gonna be too much you can't grow strength from lifting weights, but you have to lift weights. And it's like you, feels like you're a crazy person, right? So first of all, when it comes to health and wellness habits, you have to think about the version of you you're going to become, and how, what do they have? How do you want to and if you don't know what those habits are, because some of us don't know what we don't know. Then, how do you want to feel? How do you want to feel? I can tell you right now, like, I do not want to be 60 years old with the stomach issues that I have when I was a 30. I don't want to be 60 years old with shoulder aches and pains. I don't want to be 60 years old going, oh my God I wonder what it's like to be 40. No, I want to be 60 years old with all the wisdom of being 60 years old, and have the energy to like rock my world, so I can enjoy 80 and then 100 right? So doing the research around like, what I need to be making sure I'm paying attention to now my 40s, because there's, you know, we have the benefit of so many people being in front of us and them saying, okay, if you have done this in your 40s, like, like, all these different things. So when I was adding creatine into my routines, and creatine works for me, and something that does work really well for me, I had to think, okay, well, when am I adding this into my already busy day? So many things I have to do, you know, and some people like you do creatine right after you work out, not necessarily, not if you work out late at night, you don't want to be doing creatine. It'll fuck your sleep up. Okay, so, so when do I need to be doing it? What? What? Where? What is it best to mix with and going back through our habits, stuff that we talked about, the other episodes we have to explore, test, be curious and celebrate what we did, too, until we find a time where we can we have figured out that the best prompt for that habit to happen when it's supposed to happen is there. We've figured it out. So for me, took a while. I was like, oh, maybe I should do the creatine before I work out. So it should be in my afternoon shake. Well, what if I don't have an afternoon shake? Because I actually don't have an afternoon shake every single day. I'm supposed to do double dose of creatine because it will help prevent Alzheimer's. And my goodness, that is something I don't want to have. So for me, I had to explore. Okay, I actually really like it in my morning cup of coffee, I'm gonna do double the dose. So after I put my collagen in, after I put my fiber in, I put my creatine in, and then I celebrate that I did it. And that cup of coffee also helps me celebrate, because it gets that dopamine kick anyways, it's like you're awake. So it really does help. Lesley Logan 7:50  So your health and wellness habits, first, you have to figure out how you want to feel in the future and evaluate based on like what you're doing now, and then start to add it in, one at a time. One at a time I love because it's so easy to go, okay, all right, so I'm finally, this is the day I'm gonna get it together. I'm gonna go for a morning walk, I'm gonna go for an afternoon swim, and then I'm going to do my red lights before, I go to bed, holy moly, that will like, you'll have one or two good days, and then you'll be so sore, and you're gonna fall asleep before that red light gets on, and then you're gonna shame yourself. It's not how it works. Health and wellness habits, especially ones that actually could make your body sore, take you gotta take your time adding those in so that you don't have a day that would actually harm your body to continue on with it. Okay, I'll say that again. You got to take them slow so that you can ease into it, so your body's always feeling good, especially at the beginning. We're trying to create the habit, so you don't have a day where your body feels like shit because of the habit you're trying to create, right? I don't want anyone having a hard time sitting down on a toilet. You know what I mean? Like after about like after a day where you did a leg day and then you can't sit on the toilet. You're not going to have excitement to go to the gym and do arms. It's not going to happen. The other thing about health and wellness habits is that you really do, I think you're know this is going, you really want to evaluate what works for you as between you and your doctor, that is between you and your family, like what what works for you? Because, yeah, they could be people saying you should be doing these, like intermittent fasting. I'm gonna tell you, I tried that. You probably have even heard me on episodes that I tried that, and I did, and I felt good for a little bit, and then I didn't feel good anymore, because skipping breakfast was causing me to not have enough time to get the protein that my body needed, to get the fuel in that my body needed, and so for me, that didn't work. So I'm glad there's tests out there that say it's amazing, and I know it's amazing for people, but it wasn't amazing for me at this place in my life right now that could change in five years. And so that leads us to when it comes to health and wellness, right there is what everyone says we should be doing. And then there's, well, what, how did it make us feel? And does that align with how we want to feel? If it's not, then it doesn't. We have to figure out another way to get that, right? So yes, I have to eat the veggies. I don't like the veggies, but the woman I want to become, well, she probably had some veggies, so I got to find the veggies that's going to work for me, and if I struggle to digest them, or I'm allergic to them, I'm sensitive to them, there has to be another way to get that nutrition in, right? You're seeing that? So we're not going to should on ourselves all the way to health and wellness habits, because it's not going to make you feel good, it's gonna make you shame and judge yourself, and then the habits don't stick. Lesley Logan 10:44  The other thing about health and wellness habits that I just want to, like chat with you about is like, especially in Western society, especially for women over 40 high we grew up on get thinner and thinner and be the thinner and thinner and just thinner, and pluck the brows and be thinner and thinner. And I'm gonna tell you right now, thin doesn't equal healthy. Period. It's just very important that when we come we talk about health and wellness habits that you are understanding and clear based on your hormones and blood tests and other tests in your body, about like, where, what, what is really going on in your body before you make changes to caloric consumption and and that you're, you're you're thinking about these health and wellness habits in a way that actually feels you. So your health and wellness habits should fuel you. They should also hydrate you. They should also make sure that sleep is easy. If you're struggling with sleep, we have to look at the health and wellness habits through the lens that's going to help you sleep. Once we got your sleep down, then we can look at the health and wellness habits and help with the stomach issues you've got. Why did I say sleep first? Because your sleep is part of the healing your body. And if you're not sleeping, you're not producing stomach acid, if you're not producing stomach acid, you're not gonna absorb you're not gonna break down food. You're not gonna absorb food. Okay? So you can obviously, you're welcome to focus on your stomach first, but if it's stressing you out and fucking up your sleep, I recommend you sleep. So your health and wellness habits have to be making sure they're fueling you, hydrating you, and giving you time to recover. If listening to this, you are discovering that, wow, I've had these habits that are no longer serving me. So for example, I used to run every single day, every single day, and I do, like sometimes miss that routine that I have. I live in a place where, like, as I record this, I could run in the morning every single day, but come April, not it's just not how I want to feel. I don't want to feel that hot. I'm already that hot just walking, you know, so, so for me, it changed, like how often I could run. And I will also say that running every day is not serving the other parts of the be it till I see it that I want to have, they're not it's not helping me with the strength that I'm wanting to have, and it's not helping me with the Pilates practice I want to have. So now I run two days a week, and I love it. It's great. I had to unravel the other habit. I had to replace it with something else that I could do, that could fill me up. And it did take time. It took me a long time to figure out, well, what should I do in the morning? You know, should I tried rebounding? And I tried, I tried a few things until I settled in on what I do now.Lesley Logan 13:25  But there is an episode in this series on how to unravel a habit you no longer need, that no longer serves you. And so part of that is figuring out, like, what prompts that habit, okay? Other part is figuring out what's gonna replace that habit, otherwise it becomes a vacuum. So if you are thinking, oh my gosh, as I listen to this, she's telling me, I have to let go of my nightly wine. Actually, that's not up to me. It's really up to you. If it's serving you, if it's bringing down your cortisol and allowing to be present in the family's lives, you have allowed you to connect with them, and your health and your doctor, and all the things you're doing are looking good. Please don't put judgments on yourself, of which there are not right, because what I would hate is for you to take away something that is allowing you to connect with people in this world, and then you take that away, and then you're not doing the connection part that you want. I know someone who's struggles with sleep, and so they are using weed to help them sleep. Well, of course, doctors could say, well, that's a terrible sleep, but she's actually sleeping, right? So now, is that a long term habit we want her to have? Probably not. Is it a long term fix? Absolutely not. If it's helping her get some sleep, until she can start a sleep routine that helps her wind down, get her cortisol levels down, get these other things down, and then she can come off. She can do less a little half of dose, and then a quarter dose, and then, like all that stuff, and then whatever she was doing at night that prompted her to take it that would have to unravel. So instead of just going cold turkey, no, we're not going to do that. Gotta unravel it. And we also have to make sure that we're not letting anyone tell us what's a healthy habit or a health and wellness habit. Because you you have to remember who you're trying to be it till you see and you have to remember how things are serving you, and if you're like, definitely doesn't serve me to drink that wine, because I just shame and judge myself every single night. Okay, great. Let's let it go. But what's the prompt what do we fill it with and are those shame and judgment thoughts in the year and a half, even if you replace it and said I'm just not gonna buy it, I'm just not gonna buy it. I'm gonna sit there and watch Netflix, are you gonna shame and judge yourself about Netflix? So it's really important to me that we get really honest and clear about what we consider a health and wellness habit. We're not using the media, especially social media, to tell us what we need to do. We have an amazing episode with Rachel Varga. We did two episodes with her. So her second episode is all about these tools, these beauty tricks and tools that people say we got to do, you got to do this thing. And I really love that episode because one of the things she said that'd be really helpful for for me, for sleep, was an Epsom salt scrub. Like everyone says, Epsom salt bath, it helps you sleep. I did Epsom salt scrub because of her I do it multiple times a week, and I have the best sleep, right? And so. But it took someone to tell me. It took me exploring. Took me going, okay, the media saying, this is that the best way to do it? Is that going to serve me? And then going through the episodes we talk about, okay, how, what are all the different ways that I could do I could make creatine happen in my day. Okay, what are the easiest ways and the ways I want to try? Okay and then what do I already do in the day that I could add this to without having to start a whole other thing that I have to drink each day? Okay, great. Let's try it. Let's celebrate. Oh, that kept me up at night. Okay, different drink. Okay. How'd that feel? Oh, I have a best day ever. Okay, great. Celebrate. Celebrate. Celebrate. Keep going. Keep going. Evaluate, correct, continue. As long as it works for you, as long as it's serving you. It's a great health and wellness habit, and there are so many. But the important thing is that it's you have to go to the finish line. Where are you trying to go? Who are you trying to become? What are the health and wellness habits that will help you get there? If you are someone who is getting great sleep every night, then we have to look at the health and wellness habits that will help with great sleep, and then we have to evaluate what would serve you best, not just because what the media and studies say, and then we have to add it in to a day that you already have something you're doing, and then we just celebrate that we did it. We'd make it smaller and smaller and smaller until it's easy to do. And then when it's easy to do, it'll be easier to expand on the time. And if you're like, what is she talking about? Then you got to go listen to the other episodes on the series of habits. Lesley Logan 18:02  So if there's a topic that you want us to dive into, if there are habits that you're trying to figure out how to make smaller, if there are habits that you're struggling to add in or unravel, want to hear about them. Send it to the beitpod.com/questions or send in the wins that you're having when it comes to habits that stick and what resonated with you. I want to share that in the FYF episode so you can hear yourself get that shout out and go oh my God, look at the thing that I did. Remind yourself that you did it. And if you're loving these series on topics, on different topics, and how to do them, then I would love to know what other topics you're wanting so we can make sure to include it in the lineup. Thank you so much for listening to the Be It Till You See It Podcast. I'm really proud of what work we're doing and of you for listening to it. And I can't wait to see you become the person that you're truly wanting to be. So until next time, babe, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 18:48  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 19:31  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 19:36  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 19:40  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 19:47  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 19:50  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Travel does not have to mean abandoning everything that helps you feel like yourself. In this Habits Series bonus episode, Lesley Logan shares how she maintains supportive routines while traveling without becoming rigid or stressed. She explains how to scale habits down on the road, identify what truly matters, and release routines that no longer serve you.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why Lesley keeps habits while traveling to feel like herself.Using travel as feedback to clarify which habits truly matter most.Why travel habits must support you and never become a control system.How Lesley scales routines down instead of quitting them entirely.Planning trips around habits to make returning home routines easier.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions Episode 610: Amy Ledin - https://beitpod.com/ep610Episode 611: Lesley & Brad - https://beitpod.com/ep611Episode 568: Anthony Benenati - https://beitpod.com/ep568Book: Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/cW2pFicBook: Journey to the Heart by Melody Beattie - https://a.co/d/75bOwAZBook: Your Big Leap Year by Gay Hendricks - https://a.co/d/7KY1pfkBook: The Sleep Revolution by Arianna Huffington - https://a.co/d/28dVERe If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  You can't be too rigid, but you do have to be aware if there are certain things that allow you to feel like you they must come and be part of a trip, have to, and if not, you got to find something that can be something part of your trip that helps you. Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:54  All right, Be It babe. So in our Habits Series, I thought it would be really important to have a couple bonuses. And if there's topics that you want me, want me to cover about habits that I haven't yet, please send it in to the beitpod.com/questions we would love to hear. So I'm going to do a bonus on habits for when you're traveling, and then also another bonus episode on like habits that are more like health and movement related. If you are new to this podcast, hello. I'm the host of Be It Till You See It. And this is the bonus of a series. So I do want you to go back to the beginning of the series. That way you can see here Amy Ledin and I talk about habits. There's a recap episode with Brad and I on habits. And then there are truly six episodes that have to do with, like, actual creation of habits. So this is, this is more of a bonus, like, once you know how to create habits, then this will be helpful. Obviously, you can totally start here, because it's your life. Do what you want. Lesley Logan 1:54  So I travel a lot, and I am someone who, when I crave a little bit of certainty, we all do. Do you know, we, there are six needs and one of them, we all have a certainty. We also crave uncertainty. So that's super cool, but so I love to travel, but I also love my routines. My routines are just habits that I have created over time that helped me show up for me. In the last episode, I talked about how, like my morning habits and my night habits are the reason why I can show up for work. I cannot sit down at this computer. I'm not a computer person. I don't know how I end up creating a job where I'm at a computer all the time, but I am at the computer all the time, and it means that if I'm going to sit here and look at a screen all day, that I actually need to do things that help me feel like I have the energy, the clarity, the ability to lead and see things through a vision of what I want, of be it till I see it mindset I have to have. I start to have habits that help me with that, right? So that means, but when I travel, then what do I do? Do I just stop all of them? No, because I'm someone whose body craves, whose mind craves the routines that I've created for myself while I'm on the road. Otherwise, yes, there's absolutely vacations and reasons to take vacations from your whole life, but I promise you, have you ever been on a vacation? It's longer than a couple days, and you start to like, not feel anxious that you want to go home, but just like there's a few things you need that would make this even better. So for me, there are certain habits that I really do research to see if they're possible while I travel. So in order to share that with you, I will say like, I, there are, obviously I can't do all of my habits when I travel, but I do have an awareness of which habits do make the most, like, they've had the most effect on my life, and so that takes some time, and curiosity. Also, when you travel not doing some of your habits, allows you to realize which ones you miss. So something I will share with you is you're gonna get it wrong. You're, the trips you're gonna take, after listening to this, some of them will have the habits you want, and some of them won't. And you'll realize that some will have ones you're like, I actually could have not done that that caused more stress than it was worth. So always, always, always reflecting, refining and continuing on after each trip to help you make the next trip better. It's going to be really important. It's also really important to recognize, like, these are habits, but they're not a control system. So if ever any of these things are feeling like they're controlling you and your vacation, it's probably worth exploring what's going on, what's behind that. That's not something I'm an expert, expert in, but I have worked with many clients, so I do love to work out when I travel. It does make me feel better. I'll share more of that in a moment. But I've had clients that, when they travel, that not being able to work out as much as they normally do and have control over their food has gotten to an unhealthy level where it's no longer serving them. And so I would just one of the best things you can ask yourself, like, is this serving me? I made an episode with Anthony Benenati. I talked about, there's no such thing as something that's good or bad when it comes to the things you do for your life, it's just like, is it serving you or not serving you? And so I would definitely explore that with your vacations, and that requires some self awareness and some time reflecting on who you are and how you are being on your trip. But I think it's worth it. I think it's worth it. Otherwise you're just like, mindlessly going through life, and that's boring. And that's boring, and you're not gonna be it till you see it anything that way. So all right, here's the deal. If I'm traveling by plane versus traveling by car, it makes a big difference. So if I'm traveling like I'm driving, obviously I can bring more things. So when I can bring more things, I actually do keep some of a lot of my habits, I'll start with my nighttime habits for first. Often I do a red light routine, either on my face and neck, or I have a body mat that I do. I love to read at night. Those are really important things to me. I do love a little lymphatic drainage tool that I have, and depending on the night, I might even wash my hair, right? So if I'm driving, I can actually bring all those things so I can keep all my evening habits. I also play certain music before I fall asleep. If you want a really great book about like sleeping, there's by Arianna Huffington, I think it's just called Sleep. And she talks about the importance of a sleep routine. A sleep routine is just habits that you've created that help you, but it lets my brain know that, like I'm getting ready for sleep, right? I also, at night, before I go to bed, lay out the clothes for the next day's movement so they're already out, especially if I'm in a hotel or I'm in the van on tour, Brad is asleep, so I don't want any lights to wake him up too early, so I pull those clothes out. So it's so much easier for me. At home, believe it or not, I pull those clothes out because I do my morning routine starts in our extra bathroom, so I just put them out in that extra bathroom. So I can do all of my nighttime routines if I'm traveling by car. my morning routines, if I'm traveling by car, depending on the weather, I can do a lot of my morning routines. I can go for a morning walk, right? If I have got the dog, it's, it's a requirement. I can often go to a gym, especially when we're on tour, we're usually sleeping in a parking lot that belongs to a gym. So I can do that. Lesley Logan 7:15  I can get in, well, it won't be equipment Pilates. I can get in a mat Pilates session there. I won't be able to do like my shake plate or my cold plunge. The cold plunge is something that I do let go of on a retreat. I'm not driving around trying to find a place that's got a cold plunge. It's just that's just something that has to go and you'll but maybe not for you, maybe for you, you're staying at a hotel, you get ice buckets, you put them in the tub, and you have an ice bath like there are always ways to get around to different habits you want to have, but typically, especially if I'm on tour or I'm in a hotel, I'm just like, I'm not that's just something I'm gonna let go. It does mean I don't start the morning off with a giant rush, but there it is. I also, when I travel, if I travel by car, I'll bring my morning books that you've heard me talk about as part of my morning routine. If I'm traveling by plane, depending on how much space I have, I will bring one book. If I can't bring one book, then I take a picture of one book's daily messages, and I'll open up the photo on that day and read it. So I have a book like Journey To The Heart, and I have a couple others, like the Your Big Leap Year, and then this other one, and I like to read one entry of each of those in the morning. Sometimes they are saying the exact same thing, and I feel like it's like a wonderful Tarot reading. But when I travel, I just only do one. And I share this with you because we it's important that you know that you can actually titrate these habits when you travel, so you're not being so strict with yourself. So if I normally read three of them at home when I'm traveling, because, you know, everything just takes a little bit longer when you travel, like it takes longer to get that coffee, it takes longer to go find the food, so you don't have as much extra time. I'll just read one entry, and I'll have a picture of it if I don't have the space. So I will my workouts won't always be as long when I'm on the road than when they are at home, because, again, I don't have access to everything that I have. So what I if you one of the things I want to highlight, if you're listening to like this, who's like Lesley, I don't really care about your routine. The number of minutes I dedicate to part of my routine will change, oftenthey're less, but I still get to keep the habit and routine, which helps me feel like myself. And so when you're when you're traveling, whether it's by car or plane, I would just like, map out, like, okay, do, what, which of the which of my habits do I think serve me the most, and how possible are those? Some other things that I'm really intentional about when I travel is, like, the hotel we choose. Does it have a gym? If it doesn't have a gym, is there another hotel that's in the same range of price that we're looking at that has a gym? Do any of these hotels have relationships with a gym? Can Is there a gym nearby that I can pay a drop in fee to. So that is something when I'm planning trips that I'm very conscious of, not because I'm someone who's obsessed with working out, because I'm someone who's obsessed with how I feel after I've moved my body, right? I'm very intentional. I don't take a lot of Pilates classes because I personally like to do self-led workouts, even if there's a teacher watching. I just I prefer that for myself and my practice right now. So I'm not looking at Pilates studios. But you might, right? You might be like, oh my goodness, like, I love going to class. Then definitely pick a hotel that's near a studio, right? These are things it's okay to be like you know what I need in the morning? I need a really great cashew milk latte and a yoga class. Great. Look for cashew milk lattes in an area. Then look for if there's a yoga studio nearby, and then look for the hotel that's near that. Done. So I'm really intentional about when I plan a trip. I don't try to fit my routines into the trip. I actually plan the trip around my routines, and that's part of being it till you see it. That's also how you can maintain a lot of your habits while you're gone. Then here's the cool thing, when you come back, because you kept several of the habits, the routines you have, those things are often prompts for things you didn't do while you're gone, but it's still in your brain. Oh, after I work out, I get on my shake plate, or I stretch over here, I get in for my red light. It will all come back because, one, your mindset around it is positive, and two, you're bringing the prompt back in. If you are like, oh my gosh, I came back from a trip last time, it was really hard for me to get back to one of my habits, then I would love for you to go back to this whole series. One, let's make sure it's a habit you want to have. Two, is it at the time that you want to do? And three, is the prompt clear. You might have to actually kind of start that one back over. Maybe it needs some more celebration around it, till it sticks a little heavier. You know, I've been honest, like I'm starting a new habit, a new hobby, I should say, a new hobby. And hobbies are also habits, or just things that we decide to do, and something that I've been because of my travel schedule, I've been trying to figure out is, like, when is the best time for me to do this habit? When I'm at home, I can do it at night when I'm on the road. Can I still do it at night? Oh gosh, we have dinner with people every single night. Okay, that's a little harder to do. So should I be doing it when I have lunch? You know? Should I be doing it when I pull my computer out? So I am still trying to figure out that when this hobby can be done when I'm at home, this hobby is a little easier for me to put in the night routine. Like after I get home from the gym, I can work on this little hobby that I have I really like. It's quite easy for me to add into the day. Just when I travel, I find I'm having a little bit of trouble with it. I could also not do it when I travel and have, totally fine. Is it serving me? Is it distracting from my trip? Is it making my day too full? You know, these are things we have to understand. So when you travel, and you will travel, it's really important that you are aware, and this is going to come from self-reflection. Which parts of your day help you feel the most filled up? What are the some of the if you I'm not, I'm not gonna, if you have a specific type of tea that if you have it every morning, you just have the best day. And when you don't have it, you have a shit day, then you have, you owe it to yourself to figure out how do I have this best tea and then maybe while you're on a trip, you start something new. So I had on my retreat, one of the girls on my retreat, she was going to this cute little coffee shop every single morning, and she was doing her journaling. And then one day it was closed, and she was like, oh, it's not there. Okay, I guess I'll go to this other place to do it. And instead, she took the best parts of the of the place that she was going to, and she created it on our patio. And it's and the coolest thing about that, you guys, is she can do that at home. And she's like, oh, I could just do this at the house. It's like, yeah. So sometimes when you're on a trip, you discover something that you're like, if I could have this in my life every single day. And so that's why it's important, like, some of my habits don't come with me, because it opens up space for me to explore things that are lighting me up or allows me to go, wow, I really miss that thing. So then I'm really intentional when I'm at home to never miss it, and then maybe I have to consider bringing it along for the ride on the next trip. I hope this is making sense. I hope that you're understanding like it can't be too rigid, but you do have to be aware you are if there are certain things that allow you to feel like you they must come and be part of a trip, have to and if not, you got to find something that can be something part of your trip that helps you. You know, I get on planes all the time, and I see people pull out all these little tools, like people do the face mask. I don't understand that. That's something that doesn't work for me. That's not something that I care about on a plane. But I can tell you that I have set up on a plane. It's my sleep music so I can fall asleep on a plane, because I have a hard time doing that. I absolutely have compression socks, because that helps me feel good, you know? So everything we do is a habit. It's also a choice that is helping us either get close to the person we're trying to be it until we see or further away from it. So we got to have, like, a healthy balance, a healthy push and pull of what are the things that I need to take with me on a trip. What are the things I'm gonna leave behind, and then how did, how do I feel on that trip? You know, a lot of us are lucky enough that if, while we're traveling, we go, oh my God, I can't believe I left that thing at home. I need it. In most cases, we can buy it. You know, there are places you can't get it, but in a lot of places, you could probably buy the thing that would make you feel like you. Lesley Logan 15:21  So I'm going to wrap this up with when's your next trip between now and then, can you get some reflection around what, some clarity I should say, around what habit you want to take on that trip? And then can you do the research to see if it's possible, right? And then, when you're on that trip, every single day, at the end of the day, I want you to reflect, How'd that feel? How'd it go? Oh, actually, I thought I could do this, and that actually didn't happen. So instead of it being a half an hour, I'm gonna do 15 minutes. Instead of 15 minutes, I'm do five. Oh, actually, I brought those running shoes. Didn't run one single time. And you know what? I realized, I love running at home, but I don't like running on a trip. Okay, great. Now, you know. It's really you don't have to get this right. And in fact, getting it right is not how habits start in the first place. They start, they are created. They stick based on how they make you feel. And they have to make you feel good, because if they make you feel bad, your brain is going to avoid doing them. All right, loves, again, send your wins in. Send in the topics that you're wanting to hear, how we can help you with your habits, with that to beitpod.com/questions. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 16:29  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Lesley wraps up 2025 with a powerful reminder to release overthinking and trust your own timeline. She shares a grounding insight from JillFit about assuming good intentions, celebrates a confidence-boosting win from an Agency member, and reflects on her own shift toward choosing ease and spaciousness. This final FYF of the year invites you to review what worked, what didn't, and what you're ready to build next. Tune in to close the year with intention and self-trust.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. Well, it's the last Fuck Yeah Friday of 2025. It's not the last Fuck Yeah, Friday. We're gonna, we're gonna keep it going. It's gonna keep evolving, just like this podcast is and has been and, oh, my God, can't believe it. You know, we started the podcast in the middle of the year, so it's like, I don't even know how many years in where we are, but I was talking with my best friend about, like, guests I want to have on and ways I want to take this podcast, and I've been, while I'm on tour, been really percolating, like, what are the themes? What are the topics? Where do we want to go? I'd want to be it till we see it. Because it is a new year, and we have changed, and we've been being it, some of you been being it till we see it for years with me, which means that we have a new version of being it till we see it going on, like we have this other step that we're in. And so I want to hear from you. I want to hear the topics you want to know more about, the things that make you curious. If there's areas that you want to be it till you see, but you see but you need experts in that. I want to know so I can bring them on, because this podcast is also helping you be it till you see it. Podcast has truly helped me be it till I see it, and also required me to do it to almost, like, have to be it till I see it, because I have to come on here and tell you what I'm doing and evolve as well. And it's really, really forced me to, like, step into it, not just think about being it till I see it, but actually be it till I see it. So if you're new here, hi, it's a short episode. Listen to our long episodes, usually on Tuesdays and Thursdays. This month, we are doing a Habit Series. Because I really it's really important to me that you have this, these tools and the ways to make habits that actually stick. Something you can listen to it again and again and again. You're not just like, what was that episode? And trying to go back and listen to that one bit about it, you have a whole little series about it. So that series is wrapping up, and then we'll get back to our interviews. And we have a couple other series coming out. And if you have serious topics you want my opinion on, I want to share it with you. Lesley Logan 2:39  All right, so something that inspired me on the internet, I'm really excited about this one. We've had JillFit on the podcast. She was on an episode with Danny-J and she posted something a while back. In fact, as I look at the date, it's almost been a year, but I really like it, and I think it's a great way to end the year thing that's inspiring. So take what people say at face value, because trying to uncover uncover hidden meanings and ulterior motives, or trying to decipher passive aggressive behavior is a huge waste of time. Trust that grown-ass people will come to you if they have an issue, if they don't, keep living your life. One of my practices over the last several years is assuming I'm on good terms with everyone, unless I'm presented with a conversation that tells me otherwise, anything else is just fucking misery. And I've really, I'm kind of obsessed with this, right? I am someone who, if I accidentally offend somebody, right? And that's so easy to do these days, by the way, like, oh my God, I posted something that I just thought was fun. I didn't actually think of it as a like from the perspective of somebody who might have been having to do this, I was thinking of more like as just an observation of like, wow, look at how Pilates is everywhere. And most people are like, that's really cool. Oh, my God. And then like playing the game of what Pilates they see in the movement. And it hurt somebody who I really respects feelings. And I kind of, like, was like, oh, like, I didn't, like, how did she take it that way? That was clearly not my intention. Then it like plagued my mind, because I really don't like hurting anyone's feelings. I would, I don't hurt anyone's feelings and on purpose. And so if I've ever hurt yours, it is very unintentionally. And so I sat there for a second. I was like, hold on, you know, like, what's real here, you know, what? What am I? What was my intention? What was the impact? And I accepted responsibility for the impact that happened. That was not my intention, and I addressed what the intention was, and I thanked them for coming to me. And I was able to let it go, this is not the win. I'll have another win for you guys later on. But I love this, because that person did come to me, but a lot of people you know, don't, and sometimes, like, oh, they haven't texted back. Like, did I hurt their feelings? And we start to tell ourselves a story. And I love this JillFit, like, it's like, just assume, just like, move. Like, not even assume, because that's a terrible word. Just live in the world that like, if anyone has an issue with you, they're going to come tell you because they're grown-ass person. And if they are not going to tell you they're not a grown ass person, and dealing with their passive aggressiveness and trying to figure that out is fucking misery. Thank you, JillFit for giving us a phrase for that. So anyways, if you want to read that, it's in the show notes, the link to that thing. And I just love, love, love it. Lesley Logan 5:19  Okay, now let's bring up one of your wins. This is a good one. So Christine Eschen, she has been an Agency member for years, and she did eLevate with us several years ago. And I just love her, and she's so like sweet, and her lavender farm is amazing, and she said had a teacher for Balanced Body recent randomly reached out to me for a private. She lives in the San Francisco area, but has also has a home up near me. At first, I thought I'd be nervous to teach her, but then I thought about my comprehensive and my eLevate mentorship with with Lesley, so I did a little you are the only person who can do what you do. Before she showed up and just taught the body in front of me. She loved the session. Said she would be back the next time she came to the area. Thank you, LL, for your support in this community. Christine, thank you. But also, like, girl, you're the one that did it. You're the one that did it. You know, like, yes, you were in my mentorship program. Yes, I have been saying you are the only person who could do what you do the way that you do it for years. But you applied it. You be-ed it till you see-ed it. I don't think that's a word, but I'm making one, and, and thank you for celebrating it with us, because it means the world to us. And I think you just inspired a bunch of people. Lesley Logan 6:31  All right, my win. So as we come to an end of this year, like what I'm thinking about, you know, at the beginning of the year, I was like, what's your word? What's your word? What's your word? And I really was like, I like my I just want space. I want I want ease. I want ease. And every single month and quarter, I just kept asking myself, okay, how can I have more ease in this project? How can I do more of this? Okay, that didn't feel easeful. So what can we do for the next time? Just lots of I should have made the word for this year reflection, because it was a lot of reflection. And as I wrap this year up, and we're on tour and we're a month for my 43rd birthday, there's so many things to celebrate. We've had one of the best years we've ever had. We continue to grow. We have made, in doing that, we have made major changes to our businesses to make sure that we support the people around us without burning ourselves out. And you know, it's been a hard year. It's also been a crappy year. It's also been like a really mentally taxing, oh my God, like the fear I have every single day for the people who have less than me all the time. It's really hard. Like I really fear every day, and then I have to just show up and be it till I see it, because I can't fix that. I definitely can't have fix that without money and without time, right? Like so I have to do the things that I do, care about the people I care about, inspire people every single day so that I can fight for the rights of others, you know? So it's been, it's hard, and if you are nodding along with me, it's been a hard year. If you're an empathetic person, it's been a hard year. But also, as an empathetic person, I am looking back at this year and just really proud of myself. And one of the things that I'm excited to share with you, as a witness this, I am someone who has, like, suffered from FOMO my whole life. I've always, like, I never really felt like I belonged. So I, like, have like, this fear of, like, I didn't get invited to that thing. You know, I just had FOMO when I get invited to a lunch group or a birthday party or blah, blah, blah. And like, didn't get invited to a dance, like, just FOMO, FOMO, FOMO, which just created this person who, like, over-did over-showed up, over-said yes. And when the pandemic happened, we had this huge pause in our life, right? And it really let me see, like, whoa, I was going, like, there was just I was chewing too much, and I was really grateful. And then I, like, thought, I found then there was, like, the pendulum swang, where I was not doing too much, but I was traveling a lot less, so I could be really focused. And now the travel has picked up. And a few months ago, without fear, I was able to say to my team, I want to travel less. I want to say yes to less events that are not ours. And I was able to say that without fear of missing out. Without fear, like, oh my God, if I start saying no to these invites, am I going to have less of a space on this earth, right? And I hope that this one gives you some inspiration as well. Like, what are you going to use as a tool for doing a temp check on whether you should say yes or no. So we created one after I did that, so that we can evaluate whether something is a fuck yes or no, right, and it's not just monetary, it's a lot of things. And so after coming to that decision, and then, like, the win of not going, oh my God, I'm gonna let people down, like, I didn't have that, like, I just feel like I've like, like, I've really found the be it, in getting comfortable in what I can do, but I do really well and what I'm willing to do, and that's huge. And I can change my mind if I want to, but I am really, really proud that for the next couple of years we are going to say yes to less stuff, and we already closed next year's calendar, and we are only accepting a couple things for 2027 and something else that, of course, I would love to do, we're not doing till 2028 because the reality is, is that, like there's too, there's too many things to want to do, and to do them well, there needs to be space, and I know that from my year of reflection. Lesley Logan 10:46  So if you are going to have a word of the year for 2026 send it into the beitpod.com/questions I'd love to hear what it is. I'm someone who takes a long time. I think I'm better at like, discovering the theme of the year at the end of the year. But I also really implore you, is that the right word, implore you, to take some time to reflect on this year, what you liked, what you didn't like, what worked and what didn't work. And just because it didn't work doesn't mean you don't get to do it again, or don't get to make it and take another stab at it. But if something isn't working and you don't like it, what are the ways that you can use the habits that we've been talking about, the habits challenge, the habits, not challenge, but course, series, to help yourself unravel those things and create what you do want to have. That's what I want you to percolate on. Lesley Logan 11:37  And your affirmation, I love this one. I saw this a long time ago, and I saved it for you. You are not behind, you are on your own timeline, and it's perfect. You are not behind, you're on your own timeline, and it's perfect. You can't think of another better affirmation for the last Friday of this year, that you are not behind. You are on your own timeline, and it's perfect. All right, Be It babe, you are the freaking best. Thank you for celebrating another year with me. You're amazing, and you know what to do, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 12:17  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 13:00  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 13:04  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 13:09  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 13:16  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 13:19  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this Habits Series episode, Lesley Logan breaks down how identity and belief play a foundational role in creating habits that last. She explains why habits fall apart when they conflict with self-talk and how shifting who you believe you are makes behavior change easier and more sustainable. Rather than forcing consistency, Lesley invites listeners to explore becoming the person who naturally lives the habits they want. This episode offers a mindset reset that helps habits stick without shame or perfection.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Recognizing habits as reflections of current identity and self-belief.Understanding why belief must precede consistency for habits to stick.Using identity statements to guide habit choices and experimentation.Filtering daily routines through the person you want to become.Allowing habits to evolve as identity and life seasons change.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsEpisode 589: Brad Bizjack - https://beitpod.com/ep589Episode 613: The Truth About Why Habits Matter - https://beitpod.com/ep613 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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They serve a purpose. They serve a purpose for our brain. And that is how a habit is really created. But you have to be someone who actually believes you can be it like someone who has habits. Lesley Logan 0:15  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:53  Hi, Be It babe. Welcome back to our Habits Series. I'm super excited about this series. I hope you've been enjoying it. If you haven't listened to the first part of the habit series, you can listen to this one, but I highly recommend you start at the beginning of the series, because it gives you the tools that you can rinse and repeat for every habit you want to have. And so today's topic is like, how being it till you see it helps with habits. There's a few different ways it helps with habits. So if you are someone who believes that you can't start a new habit, you won't. I know that sounds like duh, but also and also like, how many times have you been like, I'm a procrastinator, or I just can't be consistent with anything, or I'm just, I'm not a morning person. When we have those statements, those I am statements that are in conflict of the things we want to do, for sure, you're not going to make the habit happen that you want. It just isn't going to work like that. So I definitely want you, if there's a habit that you're wanting to create, I want you to listen to the start of the series, because we go through like the different tools that you need to do, to take a habit of feeling and then bring it into fruition. I shared in one of the episodes what habit I have been working on, and since I recorded those, I'm really proud to say, like, it's become a habit that I do. It's something that I actually think about doing. So I still have to celebrate. It's my habit that, like, I can step out of the celebration part. And I'm also, if you go to the episode where, like, the part of the day that your habit goes in, I am because my schedule has been really crazy, still figuring out when the best time of day, what is the best thing that the habit comes after, and that's just because I'm experimenting. But I do believe that I am someone who can create habits that stick. It is a habit that I want, and so it's still happening daily. It's just taking a little longer to stick in a place where I don't need to remind myself to do it with the testing of the prompts and with the celebration. And so I share that with you because it these things just take time, not because it takes 60 days and then voila, you have it. That's not how it works, and not because it only takes a day, but because we have to get our brain wrapped around it, and then our whole entire day is just a series of different habits that we have, even ones we don't like. They serve a purpose. They serve a purpose for our brain. And that is how a habit is really created. But you have to be someone who actually believes you can be like someone who has habits. I've had Brad Bisjack on as a guest before, and he's someone that I coached with a couple years ago, and he has this like, be do have situation, I promise this has to do with be it till you see it. And a lot of people go with, once I have blank, then I will do blank, and I will become blank, right? So once I have money, then I will be able to start that business, and then I'll be successful, right? Other people are like, well, they do it in the a different order. So they have, I don't know, actually, I'm not really good with the anagram, but there's a different order you can do it in. It still doesn't get you what you want. So there's only one way to do it. You have to go with the B, then the do, then the have. So be it till you see it, right? So if you want to be someone who works out and does move it every day, you have to act as if you're someone who works out every day. You also have to believe I am someone who moves every day. I am someone who values movement. So the thoughts you put in helps you filter. It also will help you as you as you start to create habits that stick in that you're going to get something wrong. You're going to get something wrong, you're gonna get something, you're gonna say I'm who wants to go to the gym every day, and then you might, I hate this gym. Actually, I prefer Jiu Jitsu. Actually, I'm someone who moves every day. I'm gonna go to a dance class. Actually, I hate dance instead, I'm gonna go and do some Tai Chi. Like, in the process of becoming having the habits you want, you have to start with the person you want to be, and then ask yourself, what would that person do if I'm if someone, if I'm already someone who values movement, what would I do in the morning or in the afternoon or at night? And then break it down to something smaller, and then be curious about it and celebrate what you did do. So the be it till you see it mindset doesn't just apply to a business goal, or a money goal, or relationship goal or health goal. It actually applies to the life, the entire compass of the capacity of the life that you want to have. And so it's super important how you talk to yourself. Because if you are saying, I suck at this, I'm terrible at this, I'm someone who can't get up in the morning. You're not going to just you're not going to start getting up in the morning and having a habit that sticks. We have to start that mindset. Lesley Logan 5:25  So what I would suggest that you do, I think it's super important, is just kind of reflect about, like, who you want to be, right? Who is the be? What are we being it until we see? So take some time and just reflect on like, okay, it's the future. We snapped our fingers. Everything worked out. Who are you? You know, what time do you get up in the morning? How do you spend your time? What does it smell like where you are? What does it feel like? What clothes do you wear? You know, do you cook for yourself? Do the meals get delivered? Keep going, right? So like you're, you're the person you want to be, is how we filter, what are the actual habits that you are going to have? So this episode could have come honestly as number one before you filled out the bubble of like, okay, I want to have this. And here's all the different ideas. But this is a really good mindset talk to like, think about. When I was in Cambodia a couple weeks ago, leading people through the workshop, the first thing we have to do is like, figure out, like, okay, so before I teach you habits that stick, and before I teach you how to delegate things off your plate, and before I teach you how to do a dream schedule, we have to understand, like, who it is that we want to be. Because if we know who that person is, you know, then we can actually create the schedule that involves that person. But if we don't go through that process, then we actually create a dream schedule and habits based on the person we are right now. And there's probably there's nothing wrong with who you are right now. You're an amazing person. You're worthy already. But if you are listening to this, it's because you want a little bit more. You want something more in an area of your life, there's something that you're wanting to be till you see. And so I would, I really encourage you to take out a piece of paper, journal, notebook, you know, transcript tool, and to start to go through a dream day of the like you were already it. Everything has happened. You've had the training or the certificate, or the education or the windfall that you need. And so, who are you? What do you value? Who do believe about yourself? What are the I am statements that you say? Okay, when you have that, then it's like, okay, so, what does it what habits does this person have? So if you want to have a like a beautiful Pilates studio, right? And your dream schedule at that studio is that you will actually come in, read everyone who works with you, say hi to the clients that first class. You know, there's a scent that you make sure is on in the studio. And then you go to your office and you do what? And then you maybe you take class then, and then it's lunchtime, and then you have meetings, who you're meeting with, all these different things. What are the habits that that person has before they get to the studio, or the habits that person has when they're at work? What are the what are the habits that person has when they get home? So see yourself in the future already having all the things. So who is that person? And then what we can do is rewind it or unravel it to go we get to where we are today, and then go back to episode one, and then two and three and four, and actually start to process one thing at a time, one habit at a time. Lesley Logan 8:39  And the other way that the be it till you see it mindset works is that you actually get to just try one at a time. Because if we try to be it till we see it as an all or nothing. We talked about this in last episode, we try to do seven habits at the same time. It becomes really difficult to understand what's working and really see how we like it. And so when you have the be it till you see it mindset, as you try out these different habits, it makes it so much easier to make sure that the habits are ones that are going to give you the life that you want to live. And then you get to act as if you already have that habit, allowing to be easier for you to celebrate, easy to be curious, easier for the habit to actually stick, because your belief is you already are this person with these habits and not the the other opposite, which is like I am someone who procrastinates. Does that make sense? So keeping this episode short, because what I would prefer you do is take some time to think about the person that you want to be on the other side of all of this, and then really think about all the habits that that person has, the you that at that time that has and not shaming or blaming yourself. I should be further by now. I should be further ahead. I should already have these done. I've tried this habit before, starting all over again. No, that, that shit talk doesn't even work. That doesn't it's not going to help anybody. In fact, what it does it just, it actually just keeps you safe. I know. Do you believe that, like, say, there's safety in living the life that you're trying to get out of? Yeah? Because your brain is like, well, this is safe. This is the devil that I know, right? So I would love for you to take some time today just to really think about who you're trying to become. Who is the be it till we see it? What are those habits that you want to have in place? And then go back to the beginning of this process, write down one of the habits in the center, all the ideas that go around it. Then do the grid of want to do, don't want to do, easy to do, hard to do. Then take the couple that are in that one quadrant, because it's only goimng to be a couple, and then see where you can plug it into your day, and then have it as a prompt. And then use the be it till you see it mindset, until the habit sticks. I am someone who can do this thing. I am someone who have this thing comes easy for and then I am going to I'm someone who wants to make coffee for myself and my partner in the morning. So what would that person do to make coffee in the morning? Who do you have to be? And it really does make it so much easier to make any habit, because there's a belief in yourself that it's possible. I tell the people that I coach all the time like I cannot believe in your dreams more than you do all the time. I can I can be that person who like helps you realize that there's like you should be believing yourself. And I can do that. I can absolutely, in the beginning, when we meet, absolutely I can see the potential and the amazingness. But if you don't believe in you, you don't get very far, right? We don't get very far. I will also just add to this episode how I use habit that stick to make sure that I run this business well. And it's not perfect. I learn every single day, I'm constantly like, going, okay, who do I want to be it until I see you in this business, right? Like, okay, you get you evolve, and you get better. And in fact, you actually become the person you're trying to see. And then it's like, okay, now the business has risen to this level. We have this many people on the team, so the habits that are in my life that allow me to show up every single day at work exist in the morning. My morning routine is humongous for me. The morning walk that I have to do make sure my dog feels super, super loved, but also that I get the blood flowing. My morning plunge happens before that. My cold plunge happens before that. I read these amazing daily books while I'm in the cold plunge so that I can start the day with these words of wisdom and things to think about and remind myself of how truly loving and wonderful I can be in this world. Right? I'll need those pep talks. Those are habits. What I read, the cold plunge, the medicine that I take in the morning, the walk, the shake plate, the Pilates, the red light, when I have breakfast, fueling myself. All those habits are habits that are helping me be it till I see it, and as I continue to give more clarity around who I'm trying to become. As I grow older, as my business grows, those habits get reviewed and reflected. Some of them will evolve out or evolve to a different time. So especially for the women listening to this podcast, like some of the habits that you have may have worked for you a while ago, but they don't work anymore. They're not part of who you're becoming, and so you'll have to listen to listen the episode on how to unravel those habits, right? How do we get rid of that prompt? What are we replacing it with? And reminding ourselves that, like you didn't get anything wrong with that habit, it just no longer serves you. It's no longer part of who you're becoming, and the more we can become the person that doesn't shame and blame, but instead celebrates and inquires and gets curious, easier it is for us to add new habits that help us be it till we see it. I have habits at night that help me sleep well so I can go up in the morning to start those habits. My habits at night have also evolved. How soon, how early I have to go to bed has changed. What I can listen to before bed has changed. Right? What? What? What is my skincare routine has changed. Because as I be it till I see it, the person I'm becoming, she gets she has changed. She's gotten older. She's got different goals. She's got different dreams. And so I'm giving that to you because I think it's really important that you don't put so much pressure on yourself that what you write down is written in stone, and then you have to do it. And then once you do it, you've done it. Check. No, this whole program is created so you can re listen to it and reuse it as you evolve, as the clarity around who you're becoming, who you're being, till you see becomes clearer. So thank you so much. I'd love to hear what you're trying to how you're using habits to be, till you see it. What habits came up for you? What habits Did you realize? Like, oh, when I was listening the first couple episodes, I thought I wanted to work on this habit of drinking more water. But now that I'm thinking about how the person I want to be, what are the habits that I want to have so I can become her, because all the things we do are the ones that help us become the person we want to be, or they hold us down where we are. It's the truth. We have two more episodes in this series. They are really there for you as part of like how to change and update your habits for when you're traveling, or for specifically movement and health. So you have all the tools you need to create any habit that you want. If you are worried about habits while you're traveling or want to focus more on healthy I hate the word, like healthy habits, but habits that help with the health that you're trying to live for. Those will be the next two bonus episodes in this series. But for now, I think you've got what you need to be till you see it and create habits that stick. And I would love to hear how this series works for you. So make sure you send it in if you have any questions about it you want to dive in deeper. Send it in to the beitpod.com/questions. You can also send the wins of you celebrating the habits that you're creating to that same place, beitpod.com/questions and I will shout you out on our FYF episodes. Thank you so much, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 16:08  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 16:51  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 16:56  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 17:00  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 17:07  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 17:11  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Whether you want to achieve certain fitness goals, improve your relationships, or move up the career ladder, it all starts with mindset. Your mind is a powerful entity, and with consistent and intentional effort, you have the ability to transform the way you think. On today's show, you're going to learn more about the power of your mind and your capacity to utilize its incredible power.  On this compilation episode of The Model Health Show, you're going to hear four impactful messages on harnessing the power of your mind to reach your goals. You're going to hear from experts across multiple industries, including neuroscientists, mental fitness coaches, and bestselling authors.  You're going to learn how to break the cycles of negative thoughts, what it means to choose your mental diet, and what your mind needs to thrive. I hope this episode reminds you of your innate power to cultivate change and create the outcomes you want. So listen in and enjoy the show!   In this episode you'll discover: Why altruism and generosity are good for your health. (2:43) The power of changing the questions you ask yourself. (9:06) What the components of mental fitness are. (16:21) Two simple ways to improve your mental diet. (20:31) Why your brain needs consistency in order to transform. (31:51) How clarity can help you manifest your goals. (38:26)  What strategizing is and why it might be the missing key for you. (45:33) The two circuits in the brain and how they work. (55:07) What unfocusing is and how it can help you connect with yourself. (57:47)  Why unfocusing is particularly useful in the age of AI. (59:03) How playfulness can help you live a healthier, longer life. (1:00:24) Items mentioned in this episode include: Beekeepersnaturals.com/model - Save up to 30% on natural remedies! Thelumebox.com/model - Get an exclusive $260 off your red light therapy device!  The Hidden Science of Prayer - Watch this interview with Dr. Michael Beckwith! Visualization Secrets Athletes Use to Win - Hear Maya Raichoora's full interview!  Why Big Sean Made Health His Priority - Watch the full interview!  Neuroscience Secrets for Peak Performance - Learn more from Dr. Srini Pillay! Be sure you are subscribed to this podcast to automatically receive your episodes:  Apple Podcasts Spotify Soundcloud Pandora YouTube  This episode of The Model Health Show is brought to you by Beekeeper's Naturals and Lumebox. Reinvent your medicine cabinet for with clean, effective products powered by the beehive & backed by science. Claim up to a 30% discount at beekeepersnaturals.com/model. The LUMEBOX is clinically designed to deliver both red (660 nm) and near-infrared (850 nm) wavelengths in one sleek handheld device. Independently lab-tested for performance: more coverage, higher irradiance, and a greater effect. Enjoy an exclusive $260 off the premium LUMEBOX red light therapy system, designed to boost recovery, skin health, and overall vitality by using my exclusive link: thelumebox.com/model.

This week, I'm spilling the tea on my biggest holiday hack—using ChatGPT to do my holiday shopping! We're sharing our traditions, the quirky (and sometimes chaotic) ways our families ring in the season, and how technology is making holiday shopping easier than ever. I'll show you exactly how I use ChatGPT to take the stress out of gift buying. We also dive into a fun, Christmas-themed rapid-fire questions, debating real vs. fake trees, the worst holiday song, and the best Christmas movie.Wishing you joy and happiness this holiday season! Thank you for being with us this year—you are the heart of our holiday, and we're so grateful for you.In this episode:We share our holiday traditionsWhy I'm obsessed with ChatGPTHow to use ChatGPT for a more stress-free holiday seasonFunny stories from the chaos of Christmas at the Gravel householdFestive Christmas Rapid Fire QuestionsHere is my favorite quote from this episode:“All I want for Christmas is ChatGPT.” - Kim GravelExperience Bible Life Guides: Forgiven and Free — a 21-day Bible-based journey to emotional freedom, available free at https://try.biblelifeguides.com/products/forgiven-free-with-kim-gravelTake the Quiz: Which Maribelle and the Manger character are you? Find out here: https://bit.ly/4pxUqF8If you want your questions answered then leave a comment or call me and leave me a voicemail at 404-913-6460There is BONUS CONTENT in our free newsletter so make sure to subscribe at https://www.kimgravelshow.comNEW! Order Kim's Holiday Children's BookEmbark on a magical adventure with five friends as they journey together to witness the birth of Jesus! It's a heartwarming holiday tale your whole family will love.Kim's brand-new storybook Maribelle and the Manger is available now: https://maribelleandthemanger.com/?utm_source=lwya.beehiiv.com&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pre-order-kim-s-new-book&_bhlid=075a4287c5257cbe2d43cc23e857262cc9cf39cdConnect with Me:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠New episodes of The Kim Gravel Show drop every Wednesday at 6pm EST.Support our show by supporting our Sponsors:Beekeepers NaturalsTired of harsh chemicals in your supplements? Carly Kremer, the founder, found relief from recurring tonsillitis with propolis — a natural resin bees use to protect their hive. Now, every ingredient in Beekeeper's Naturals is carefully vetted so you get clean, effective support. If you're looking for natural support rooted in the power of the hive, visit https://beekeepersnaturals.com/.Aura FramesThe holidays are almost here, and Aura Frames is the gift that brings memories to life. Aura is a digital photo frame with unlimited storage that can be updated instantly from any phone, anywhere. It's an easy way to share moments, keep traditions alive, and feel connected every day. You can't wrap togetherness, but you can frame it.For a limited time, visit https://on.auraframes.com/KIM and get $45 off Aura's best-selling Carver Mat frame with promo code KIM at checkout. This exclusive Black Friday/Cyber Monday offer is their best of the year—order before it ends!FactorFuel your best season with Factor — chef-prepared, dietitian-approved meals ready in 2 minutes. Choose from 45 weekly options like Calorie Smart, Protein Plus, and Keto.Visit https://www.factormeals.com/Kim50off and use code KIM50OFF to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping on your first box.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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This fifth episode of the Habits Series spotlights the “just do it” mindset and why ditching all-or-nothing thinking is non-negotiable if you want habits that truly stick. Lesley breaks down how tiny actions create momentum, why immediate celebration rewires your brain, and why failure is simply feedback. She also shares real examples from her Tarot routine and coaching experience to show how experimentation leads to clarity, confidence, and consistency.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why all-or-nothing thinking prevents you from making habits achievable.The importance of making habits manageable.Using a “just do it” mindset to act despite limited time.Making habits microscopic—down to opening the book only.Treating every failed attempt as data about prompts, timing, or desire.Episode References/Links:Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/cW2pFicSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Otherwise, you should do none of it. Lesley Logan 0:04  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:46  Hi, Be It babe. Welcome back to our series on habits. We are working our way through. We are now on the other side of the half, and I am so excited. If this is your first time listening to us, I recommend going back to the beginning of the habits. You have to go back to episode one, about the beginning of the habits, just so you're not lost. And this is really where I just want to give you a pep talk, because when I was coaching people through their habits during, like, to do my habits coaching, training, years ago, I had to coach people for a couple of weeks, and no matter how much they were told by the expert himself that they need to make it smaller, that they need to make it they can't be all or nothing, that they're in experimentation mode, I found a lot of people being hard on themselves because they were unable to do the thing that they wanted to do. But they they didn't make it very small. They said, okay, for example, the habit was like, oh, I want to run five days a week, and I'm going to run a mile. And then the first day they didn't have enough time for a mile. The second day they did it, but then they were sore the third day, so they couldn't, then something happened on the fourth day, then on the fifth day, they didn't have enough time. All of a sudden, like, I'm not good enough. And that it, it doesn't even, insert your desired habit here. You know that's why it 30, 21, days, 30 days, 70 days, to make a habit isn't a real thing, because it's not about the the consistency every single day. Consistency really is a heartbeat. It's about actually making sure the thing that you want to have it's a habit is first of all something you want to do, right? It's really easy for us to have habits of other people's. Second, it's important that not only is it to have something you want to do, but we are putting it in an achievable bite size situation so that you can actually do the thing, so you can actually, like, check the box, right, from my perfectionist and my my achievers here, but a lot of you are overachievers and have an all or nothing mindset when it comes to things. And if you are going to do something, you should do all of it. Otherwise you should do none of it. And we come across this a lot at OPC. We have people who are like, oh, I only logged in once a week, and so I'm going to quit this. And it's like, once a week. That's what like, are you doing something else the rest week? No, well, then, isn't once a week better than nothing? Yeah, you're not wasting your money, right? You're not wasting your money at all. So we have to be kinder to ourselves. And I think one of the reasons, I think that, like this podcast, exists, is just to remind people that you're doing a great job and the thing you want to have and the things you want to have and the person you want to be, all that is possible, but doesn't come because you, like, snapped your fingers and woke up that day the next day, like, confident and put together with all the accolades. No, it comes together little by little, step by step, one brick at a time. Sometimes a brick falls, sometimes the brick is a little crooked, and then you learn how to be a better brick builder, or layer, brick layer. You know, you learn. You learn you can go faster, right? You know, the first time I, like, ran up a flight of stairs as a runner, like, I had to, like, look at every single step I was doing, right? There's these stairs in Santa Monica, they're like, super famous, oh, I kind of, I wonder if they're still there actually. They're in the,they're in the Palisades area and we would run from the top of the bluffs in Santa Monica down to Palisades and back up, right? And these really cool stairs, and the first, like the first set, first couple times, I couldn't even go all the way up the stairs, and then going down the stairs, I had to have my hand on the rail, right. And so, you know, but then I kept going, and it became easier to get all the way up the stairs. Came easier to just go down the stairs without touching the handle. Became easier to go two steps at a time. I got faster. Started timing myself. I got faster, right? In fact, let me tell you about these stairs. There was this guy who was going up them on a single leg all the way up, and then running down, then a single the other single leg all the way up. We're talking like so many flights of stairs. The fire department uses this to train and it happened to be like an Olympic speed skater. So anyways, all this to say, you actually don't get where you want because you snapped your fingers, you get there one step at a time, slow, slower, like, oh, you missed a step. Oh, you tripped up the step to toe. Oh, okay now you're getting faster now, now you're getting a straight line now, oh, now it's gonna be you could do with your eyes closed. Now you can do it in a single leg. So the all or nothing mindset is actually not a single person you admire in this world did anything with an all or nothing vibe. Every single one of them failed, hit their like literally had a door slammed in their face, fell to the ground, landed in mud, got up and did it again. So habits are not built on all or nothing mindsets, they will it will never happen. You will never have the habit you want. Another mindset you do need to have is a just do it mindset. Like, a just be it mindset. And that's hard. Like, it's easy to go, I can't do it right, so I'm not gonna do it today. I slept in. I'm not gonna do today. So today, for example, on the day we're recording this, I actually barely have enough time to do any of the things that I really wanted to do. I, like, I said in the last episode, I'm, like, really enjoying this, like, studying (inaudible). I was like, oh, I'm gonna do a card today. And I'm sitting on my desk and I'm gonna just do one card, and I'll open up my emails, right? And the truth is is, like, I sat down, I had seven minutes between when I sat down and what I had to do next. And so it's like, well, I'll do seven minutes of this thing. Just do it, right? Not an all or nothing thing, because I would, if I had that mindset, I wouldn't have done it yet. And what I can say right now is I might not be on card number three, right? I just started this yesterday, but I am halfway through card number two, and it's quite possible that I will have seven more minutes later today, and I can actually work on it, but the having a more just do it, just be it, like, do do what you can imperfectly is actually going to make your habits more successful. It's why a lot of people are so successful. It's why a lot of people who like, fail and fail and fail until they get it like they learn so much from the failure. Exactly, for example, today, like when I did the first day, it took me, like, 20 minutes, and I was like, because, because I was reading a bunch of different things, I had to get a bunch of different stuff together, like I was trying to connect the dots. So as of right now, as the time of recording this, I actually don't know how long it takes me to do one card with all the different questions that they ask. Does it take me 20 minutes? Does it take me 15 minutes? Does it take me? Doesn't take seven. Takes longer than that. So because I don't know that, I have to just do what I can do, and then celebrate that I did do it. And by the way, I did celebrate. I was like, oh, checked out a page, worked out, really did a great job. It's amazing, right? So, so it's really important to and ditch the all or nothing. And said, go for the like, you know, done is better than perfect mindset. Okay? And then I have mentioned this before, but I actually want to talk about, like, the celebration part of how the habits are created, because it is the thing that is so key. And then I found that a lot of people had a hard time doing, right? They, they almost had a harder time doing this, and they did making things smaller, but it was a close, close touch right, like I could, for example, if I'm in my experimentation mode of this new habit, if I find that a couple days, like a card a day is really hard, maybe I can do one card like each day I open the book, but I do one page of the book, right? Like that might be where I have to do it, rather, because each card has about three pages. So maybe I have to go one page, maybe I have to go to just one question. Maybe I have to just, maybe the habit actually becomes just opening the book, and anything I do is extra credit. Do we see how we can make it I can make it so small that I end up just getting to pick up the book, right? We talked about that in episode one. Just pick up the book. So you got to make it super small, and you have to celebrate. So celebrations are the thing that I find that perfectionists have the hardest time with, like, what? Because it's like, well, is it really worthy of celebration if I just picked up the book? Yeah, it is. If you want to keep picking up the book, it is very much worth it. It is so important. So there's over 100 different ideas of celebration that BJ taught us, but I will tell you his really fun activity for figuring out how you like to celebrate. So take a bunch of different ways you can celebrate the moment. A song you like to play, a dance you like to do, a kid you want to high five. Hopefully it's your kid. You know, like, maybe put on your favorite lipstick and go amazing, maybe high five yourself, right? All these different ways you could celebrate and then set a timer for five minutes and go into a room in your house that's messy. Every time you put something away, try one of the new things on your celebration list so you find one that feels easy, authentic and totally you. That's the way you figure it out. So when you figure it out, right? So for me, I actually do say it out loud. It's, if you're around me, you'll hear me do it. And it's because, one, we all need a pep talk, sometimes, from time to time, like, yes, people are lovely, and I get lovely DMs about how amazing I am and what they love. But like, the truth is, is that, like, I have to love what I do, too, and that, in fact, my voice is louder than the other voices. So I'm negative of myself, I don't even hear the compliments. But if I'm positive to myself, I can totally receive those compliments. So I celebrate verbally, and it's usually something amazing, but sometimes, if it's something that's a little harder, a little more challenging for me, something I'm like, I am struggling to enjoy, I turn on the music like, our house doesn't have music going on 24/7 I wish it did. I kind of, like, I'm like, how do we get a Sonos type of thing? Can, Sonos, do you want to sponsor me? How do I have because I would love this music playing in the whole house while we're working. It would definitely cover the fact that I can hear my husband in his office. But I put music on and I put on, like, songs that, like, I just absolutely love, like, sometimes that's my way of celebrating. It really helps me, like, brightens the mood, sometimes the best way. So, you know, figure out, figuring out the way you like to celebrate. And it cannot, we talked about this in earlier series, or the series, cannot be a reward later on. It has to be in the moment, in the moment, and you need to do it, even if you think about doing the habit and you miss it. So like, if tomorrow I think about doing the Tarot book, but I don't get to the Tarot book, I have to celebrate that I thought about it in that moment, because it will help me continue to build that habit. I'm going to go on tour. I'm recording this before I go on tour. And so, you know, I am bringing on tour, and I how it will take. This experiment will continue to go because it's like, okay, when on tour is it easy for me to grab this book? Is it beginning of the day? Is it at the end of the day? Is it, you know, when I'm eating dinner? Is it before I leave the van to go the gym? Like, when is it? Right now, I can tell you right now, it's not gonna happen in the morning. As much as I would love it to like, it would just like, start the day there, it's not easy, because I have to turn on a light. My husband's in the van. Dog has to pee. I have a limited time to work out and get my, get ready for the day, so I already know that that's not gonna be when I do it. So at the home, it's like before I when I sit down at my desk to work, I will do my Tarot like it's gonna, on the tour, it's gonna have to be like every day before I go to bed I will do the Tarot, right, like it might have to be like that. I don't know, I might like it more. It might become part of my nighttime routine, that we will find out. Lesley Logan 11:26  And so I just want to wrap this up by saying you're allowed to, in your process of implementing habits, get it wrong. Get the time wrong, get the prompt wrong, get the location of when you want to do it wrong. Get the size of how tiny it needs to be to get started, you're allowed to get it wrong, because every time you do, it's feedback and information about how you operate better, how what makes you tick, what makes it easier for you to build habits and and truly putting in the right spot so you're not overwhelmed, so that it's, it's, it's in the part of the day that actually fuels you. And also sometimes, as you're working through a habit, you realize you don't want it, like, I, there are some habits I really have wanted to create, or I thought I did, and then in the effort of putting through it, some of the habits that I thought would get me to the goal that I wanted weren't the thing that did it at all. They weren't the thing that did it at all, right? And I just want to share that with you, because you're not always going to get the exact right habit down. Not not only like, like as a habit, but it might not. It might even like, in the process of experimenting, might be like, you know what? I actually love doing this in the morning, but I don't want to do this in the morning. It needs to be something else. Like, I thought that running would help me feel like the health goal that I had, and it's actually not running, it's boxing, like you're the you're allowed to fail, because it's just feedback that helps you get to know yourself more. And the more you do this, the more you work this series, the easier it is for you to actually add in new habits. You start to be quicker going, oh, I know that's gonna be hard for me. I'm not gonna do it. Oh, I know that's going to be a little easier for me, and I want to do it right? Or, you know, I have this feeling of myself that I don't want to do it. Last time I felt this feeling, I should have listened. So I'm gonna listen right now. You just get to know yourself more. Failure is feedback, and I really wish we could give failure like a better there should be another word for failure, like being in process, right, is what you're trying to do. So whether you get like you nail the habit today and you don't tomorrow, it's just information on, do I have the right prompt? Is this tiny enough? Is it? Is it something that I am I enjoying it, right? Am I enjoying it? And then, most importantly, let yourself be a beginner, right? You're new to this habit. You're new to, even if it's something you used to do and you got out of the habit, you unraveled it, right? You're it's new to you and the person you are today. And so it just takes time. So ditch all or nothing. Take the messy action, celebrate what you did do and reflect, correct and continue. You got this. You're amazing. Have an awesome day. Lesley Logan 14:01  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 14:42  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 14:48  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 14:53  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 15:00  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 15:03  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Lesley shares a heart-tugging story from the Padres that proves integrity doesn't need an audience to make an impact. She also spotlights eLevate member Laura Fielding's huge teaching win — a reminder that preparation, courage, and trusting your own voice can open unexpected doors. And in her own win of the week, Lesley shares a personal win from the Habits Series and reflects on the ripple effect her workshop continues to create.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How the Padres quietly supported Matt LaChappa through decades of care.Why unseen kindness can inspire what's possible in your own world.Laura applying Lesley's tools to earn a perfect class review.How Lesley's workshop sparked daily transformations for attendees.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsMatt LaChappa - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIqCBxku60Z If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Lesley Logan 0:01  Fuck yeah.Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Hey, Be It babe. How are you? Oh, my God, the year is coming to an end. Are you enjoying the habit series? Have you started listening? This whole month we're just talking about habits, and it's really my goal, and you'll hear my win later on. This episode is to just help you understand that, like the life you want is like, literally, a series of habits that stack onto each other and allow you to have boundaries, but also the energy you need to do the things you care about. But before we get into that, we have to celebrate your wins. Something that inspired me on the internet and a little affirmation. So this is something I came up and it's really cool. So 1983 there was, you know, there's the Padres, if you follow sports at all, it's just the baseball, if you don't. In 1983 there was a 21-year-old who signed to the Padres. Amazing baseball player. Like, people were like, he's gonna have a 30 year career. I don't even know if it's possible, but maybe in 1983 it was, at any rate, he was just gonna have this amazing, amazing life, and as he was practicing and warming up, right, so after he just signed the contract, he had a, like a [cardiomyopathy] like some sort of heart attack type of a thing, something undiagnosed. No one knew he had it. He didn't know he had it. And even though he was rushed to the hospital, he ended up in a coma for six months, and when he came out of it, he was mentally and physically disabled. Never gonna play again. Whole life has changed. His family was super worried because, like, where are they gonna get the money for his medical bills he can't work now, you know all this stuff, so get this. First of all, no one knew that this is gonna happen, but this is what the Padres did. They just kept signing him for 30 years. They just kept signing him. He was, like, one of the longest signed baseball players, even though he's never played for the Padres because he had this heart attack, right? And the director of minor league relations, Priscilla Oppenheimer, she personally made sure that he was taken care of, and they kept him with health insurance. How freaking amazing is this? I mean, like, yes, look, it's a pro baseball team. Technically, they have all the money in the world to do this, but they didn't have to do this. And even in doing the first part, of just making sure he has money, keeping him signed. They got the health insurance. I mean, like, all these things that people just went out above, out of their way, above and beyond. And I think it's really important, because the reality is is, like, even though they are a professional baseball team, it's not like their professional teams don't have profit margins, right? They don't have things they have to think about. And this person didn't even make them any money, so they just did this. And I was just thinking, wow. Like, while that's not something I can do, it does maybe go, wow. There are some things that I can do, right? There are some ways we can just do things. And no one even knew that they were doing this. This is not like something like the Padres are, like, just out proclaiming every single year we signed Matt Lachappa again. They just did it, just for the just because it's the right thing to do. And so that just really inspired me, because in a world where there's a lot of shit going on and people are taking people's healthcare away and making them more expensive and just being all around assholes, there are people out there who are trying to do the right thing with where we're at. And so, you know, it just made me smile, and I think we needed that. And I hope, what I hope you do is check the link in the show notes and watch the video, because it's actually, like, just quite inspiring, and makes me want to know more about how that was made and, like, who this person was and what kind of career they could have. I just I love I love documentaries, I love stories. I love hearing these things, because it inspires me as a small business owner. Like, what could I do? How could I build things in I'm sure you know that, like, OPC donates to Nevada, SPCA because they're a no kill shelter. And I want to adopt all the dogs, and I cannot adopt all the dogs. I can't, not an option for me, but it lets me, you know, continue to donate and go, okay, at least that dog's application fee is taken care of, so someone else can have that amazing dog. But you know, what are the things that you can do? And then also just being kind that you're probably doing a lot already, and try not to overextend yourself. So celebrate what you are doing and acknowledge that. Yeah, can we agree to that? Okay, great. All right, so you can actually send that, send that in as a win, right? Like you can send in the things that you, that you have done, the donations you have made, as a win, because that allows you to celebrate the thing you're doing and inspire others as well. Lesley Logan 4:37  Okay, so, Laura Fielding from our eLevate program, and she's been to our retreat in Cambodia as well, I, on Tuesday morning, I woke up to a message from my lead instructor informing that me that she was reviewing my class that Tuesday morning. I was so cranky, dealing with a severe jet lag and a sinus infection, that the text almost had me in tears. Fast forward to the class. I had Lesley in my head and I applied all the knowledge she has given me, I got a perfect review, and the lead instructor actually asked if I would train her. She said it was the best CP class she has ever taken. She said she loved how the class flowed, and was surprised how much rotation, side bending, extension I was able to fit in. Most instructors hardly do this. She purchased three private sessions and said that she can't wait to work with me. Woohoo. Laura, Fielding, Fuck Yeah Friday. I mean, Oh my freaking goodness, you're just the coolest person. Do you just feel so good? I hope that rehearing that makes you like, go because, like, it makes me so excited to reread that. And I think no matter what you do, whether you're a teacher or like in Pilates, or you teach people, or you work in an office, or you have your own thing. Like, sometimes when there's, we can all think of a time when, like, somebody who is like, oh, this person's opinion of me matters, even if I don't want it to. And then you kind of have to psych yourself up, and you go through all the emotions of fear and worry and like, am I worthy? And then you freaking show up, and you just trust yourself, and you just do it and then, and then you get, like, something even better than you thought you would get. That is a thing. That's why it's like, we have to be really intentional about the work that we do and the work we put in, and how we talk to ourselves, and then we have to just allow it to show up for us so that we can, I mean, like, basically, of course, you probably knew you'd get a good review, right? But this got you hadn't, was it on your wild card that she'd buy privates with you, no. And that is because you showed up and you were your whole self, and you took all the work you've been doing and you laid it all out there, and you had and like, I'm just so freaking happy for you. So thank you for sharing that with us, Laura. Y'all can send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions we want to hear them. I want to share them. I want to read them. I want to get excited with you that would just like mean the world to me.Lesley Logan 6:49  Okay, my win. So, the other day, I was doing a reflection call with my partner of the one of the partners of the Mullet Tour, and she was telling me, you know about how, since I've been at her studio, like, every single day, someone has mentioned something they learned from my workshops. And I was like, Yeah, I know, even though I'm not there to hear it, I was also getting, I've been getting so many people tagging me in setting up their habits and working on them, and, like, each day trying to, like, get that habit to be something that is attainable for them, that they can celebrate, and especially this month as it is, the habits month here at Be It Pod with our habit series going on, I, like, found myself just normally when I open my Instagram, there's like, so much crap on there, and I'm like, wish I didn't have to do this in my job, but my DMs have been filled with people showing up for themselves and tagging me in that. And my freaking win is that I want, received every single one of those. I was like, yeah, celebrated with them like I didn't go well they did like I didn't discount my effect of my workshop in that life. I was like, yeah, I'm so proud of the workshop I taught. It made so much sense. I helped them see what's possible with some tough but tender love. And I get to every single day, wake up to a DM of somebody working on a habit that's making their life better, their life better, and because they're doing that for themselves, the people that they love are going to have a more energetic, more energized human being around them, and they're going to have more time to do the things that that they're designed and destined to do on this life. And then there's a bigger impact there. And I freaking am so excited. So my win is I taught an epic workshop a couple months ago, and it keeps on giving to those who attended and to me, because I get to celebrate that, and I just love it. Yeah, wins can be like that. This can they can be something that you're just like, oh my God, I did do that. That's a win, right? I hope that this week's that these weekly episodes just help you see just how many different ways you can celebrate yourself and the things you're doing. Because I just think we're just think we're just so hard we, like, think about all the different things we didn't do. You guys, I never finished a to-do list. I'm always behind at work. You know, like I am. I work so hard to get ahead that even in trying to get ahead, I'm behind, but when I get caught up, I'm still on time. Like, I have to set those things up for myself, those parameters. But the reality is is like no one ever no not a single person you admire is finishing their tasks every single day. So it's not happening, you know, like, that's not how the world works. But I can tell you that the people you admire who are doing epic things that you wish you were doing have self-care routines that put them as a priority, and for that, you need habits. So check out the habit series, if you haven't already. Lesley Logan 9:41  All right, let's get you an affirmation and get you on your weekend. So my loves, here we are. Your affirmation is, today is an opportunity to grow and learn. Today is an opportunity to grow and learn. Yeah, today is an opportunity to grow and learn. What are you gonna do to grow on today? What are you gonna learn? What are you gonna water? Right? Think of yourself as a plant. What are you gonna water? I want to know. Share it with the Be It Pod. So beitpod.com/questions. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 10:14  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 10:54  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 10:58  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 11:03  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 11:10  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 11:13  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this Habits Series episode, Lesley breaks down what it truly takes to unravel a habit that no longer fits the life you want. She explains how prompts quietly drive your behaviors, why simply removing them often backfires, and how thoughtful replacements can make change feel easier and more sustainable. Through real examples and gentle mindset shifts, you'll learn how to spot the trigger behind an unwanted habit and create a version of the routine that actually supports who you're becoming.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why there's no such thing as a "bad habit," only habits that stopped serving you.How to identify the specific "prompt" that starts a habit you dislike.Why removing a habit creates a "vacuum" that makes you want to do it more.A powerful technique you can do for managing unavoidable prompts.Why using shame and judgment will not help you unravel a habit you don't want.Episode References/Links:Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/cW2pFicSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsEpisode 613: Habits Special 1 of 8 - https://beitpod.com/ep613 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  We have to just actually go, okay, hold on. How often is this happening? What is the prompt that's happening here? And how do I remove the prompt? Right? How do I evolve, change the scenario or change the setting? Lesley Logan 0:12  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:52  Hi, Be It babe. We're here to talk about how to break a bad habit. Oh, actually, strike that. Reverse it. It is how to unravel a habit we no longer want. Specific like specificity in words matters. And when I studied habits, and I was studying and reading BJ's book, Tiny Habits, and then doing his program, it was so cool to hear that there's no such thing as a bad habit. All right, there's no such thing as a bad habit. There's only habits that no longer serve us, but at some point they did. Lesley Logan 1:25  If you are new to the podcast, hello, I'm Lesley Logan, and we are in the middle of a habits series. And so normally, with our episodes, I'm like, listen to whatever you want. Go back and forth. When we're in the series, I might, I would suggest you go to the first episode on Habits. Um, it's several episodes back. We're almost, we're halfway through, basically, the Habits series. And this is a series I want you to be able to come back to whenever you want to add in a new habit. So you definitely want to check in with number one, so we can get here. But it this episode itself might be something you will listen to over and over again, because you might come across habits that no longer serve you. And the reason I say that is, at some point, a habit, something became a habit because it was serving you at the time, and then it kind of got out of hand, right? Maybe eating lunch at your desk like was something you had to do because you were in a busy work week, and then it just became something you always did. And you are now feeling quite lonely, because you're not going out and having lunch with friends, because you have this habit of eating lunch at your desk. So there's nothing wrong with eating lunch at your desk, right? There's actually, there's like at its at its just surface level. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's no longer serving you, and then you have to break this habit, right? And so that would be really weird, because how do you break up with lunch? When you need to eat you need to eat. So the truth is, is that there's the way, the reason that BJ Fogg talked about unraveling a habit that no longer works is that there was a series of events that got you to the habit that you have, and there's a prompt that goes off that causes you to do the thing that you no longer want to do. It's not a bell, but you can think of it like a bell. There's a prompt that happens. So for example, if every time your boss calls, you bite your nails, the prompt to biting your nails started with your boss, it's your boss calling, right? Now, we can't stop your boss from calling, but knowing what the prompt is allows us to kind of understand, like, what can we do? So if you're looking at your life and they're looking at the things that you're like, oh, I wish I could change. I wish I didn't, like, have a second with my clients. And she was like, yeah, I find myself munching after dinner even though I'm not hungry. And so, by the way, there's like, again, there's nothing wrong with munching after dinner, but she no longer wants to munch up, and it's affecting her sleep. It's affecting the goals that she has, the energy she has in the morning, it's no longer working for her. So I told her, I said, well, we have to review, like, what is the prompt to grabbing the extra snacks? Like, is there a phone call? Is there a text? Is there a show you watch? Where are, where, where are you having the extra snacks, like, what's going on that this, that this prompt started? So she just sort of evaluate, like, what was her mind going through? And she realized it's kind of when she, like, is just scrolling on social with the TV going that she wants to munch, right? So she's actually just not really even being present. And so once you know, kind of, like the promptness at the situation that we can actually make decisions on what we're going to do to unravel this. In my example of the boss calls you bite your nails, we can't actually stop the boss from calling, most likely. So that prompt isn't something we can remove, but if the prompt is something you could remove, right, then you would just remove the prompt. Like, where you try to remove the prompt, right? So if, like, oh, you know, like the, everytime I watch this TV show, then I, then I sit and have a bag of chips. We could just remove the, in theory, remove the chips or the TV show. The problem with some of the removals of prompts is it, it creates a suction, a vacuum, right? That makes you want to do it more. Lesley Logan 4:57  In BJ's book, he talked about this woman who want didn't want to eat at her like, like, she was just munching at her desk. And so it's like, munching, like, candy or whatever at her desk. And so, of course, people be like, well, just don't buy the candy. Okay, so she didn't, and then she found herself wanting something to do at her desk, because she's had this habit of, like, having these M&M's at her desk. So she ended up going to the vending machine and getting, like, a couple candy bars, which was more than the couple of M&M's that she ate at her desk. And so that's that's what I'm saying when, like, you just take the thing away, it creates a vacuum that's actually a bit more powerful because your brain is thinking about it. So, so what ended up working for this person was actually to buy carrots and celery and other things that are like would you can deem a little bit more healthier as snacks at her desk. So she still snacks at her desk. We can't remove that she's at her desk. We can't remove that she's at work. We can't remove the stress at work. So we're just swapping out the habit for something else that she feels would serve her better, those those things, that those foods, that would give her more energy. Lesley Logan 6:00  So in your life, what are some habits you want to unravel? I mentioned in the first episode, like, I do play a video game, and I probably play a little more than I that I need to, and it's affecting my ability to read more, right? And I'm also wanting to start. I've been wanting to I've been studying tarot. I like to call it tarot, because my friend called it tarot, tarot, right? And so I've got this study book that I've got, and I've been playing with different apps that you can use to study tarot, because clearly, like, I'm with my phone, the reason the prompt is I'm in line usually, or sitting in the car, we're in traffic or and Brad's on a call. Like, there's I'm bored, right? I'm bored, and my phone is a thing that I have. I'm in a doctor's office waiting to be called. Like, yes, I could bring up a book around with me everywhere, but I actually don't carry a purse that often. So, so what if I don't want to play the video game anymore? I could swap it for one of these apps that helps me study tarot, right? So that's a case of like, okay, here's a habit I don't like about myself, and I when do I do it? Okay, this is when I do it. So the prompt is usually boredom. So let's replace it with something we do want to do, and then make that the new habit. Now, going back to Episode One, how do we make things a habit. We have to celebrate that we like doing it, that we're doing it. We have to acknowledge when we're doing it. right, all that kind of stuff. So whenever you were replacing something, it doesn't just become the new habit. You do have to go through the steps that we talked about in the first three episodes on the series, but you replace it with the habit you no longer want with something else. Lesley Logan 7:38  If you are in an instance where you can unravel the habit, right? You can really figure out, like, what the prompt is, oh, the prompt is, you know, I get, like, let's get an example of a prompt you can control. After I get home from work, I sit down on the couch and I veg out. So the prompt is that you get home from work and you sit down, right? So we can unravel that by, well, what if you actually went somewhere else before you got home, right? What if you just didn't go straight home? Oh, you have to go straight home because you've got kiddos. Okay. Then what can you do with your kiddo that could replace the opportunity to sit down on the couch? So we just need to get keep you from the couch with using another habit. We got to change the prompt. Is this making sense? So it is complicated. Some people's habits are really difficult. They have immersed themselves in their lives. We're talking like smoking or drinking, maybe negative self-talk, right? You want to unravel negative self-talk, you have to first notice what the prompt is, what goes off in your day that becomes the thing that goes ding? I've talked badly about myself right now, right? Like, that's hard. We have to those ones that are a little bit more omnipresent. They kind of come with us on a lot of different places. We have to just actually go, okay, hold on. How often is happening? What is the prompt that's happening here, and how do I remove the prompt? Right? How do I evolve, change the scenario or change the setting? Lesley Logan 9:11  In the first three episodes, I talked about, when you make a habit like, you also want to make sure that, like, where the habit is happening, your day is like, in the same place, like, if you want to actually be working out, but you are at work. Like, the habits not going to necessarily work, right? If you want to clean the kitchen, but you're, you're, you're usually in the garage at that time, it's going to be really hard for you to, like, get to the kitchen. I know that sounds like crazy. Some kitchen, the garages are next to each other, but, like, there, you'd be surprised, the effort that feels like a lot. So in all these cases, just taking in the time to go, what is starting the domino to the habit that no longer serves me? And then where is the scenario happening? Is it a location? Can I avoid that location? Yes, we can block and bless people who like are mean to us. And then that causes things like, maybe you're, you got someone in your family that whenever they call, you're just so stressed out afterwards, and so you're like, oh, I need a drink. And so, like, that's the prompt. But the reality is is like many of us are not gonna not talk to our family members, many of us are actually gonna take the call. So what do you do if you have that? Well, there was this really cool instance where BJ talked about this woman who was avoiding talk taking calls with her soon to be ex-husband, was making the divorce drag on. And she was doing that because every time talk to him, would stress her out, so she wouldn't talk to him. And then, of course, like they're not divorced, right? So basically, she made a new decision. She said, okay, every time I get on the phone with him to talk about these things I'm going to immediately book myself something that I want to do. So then she actually looked forward to every time he called, because it's like, okay, I took this call. I get to go book buy myself movie tickets that movie I wanted to see. Oh, I get to get my nails done. Oh, I get to book that massage. Like she just started rewarding herself with things that she wanted to do. It made the phone calls so much easier to get through, because she knew as soon as she got off she was doing something fun for herself. It made the divorce happen sooner. So if you can't avoid certain prompts that cause certain stresses or negative self-talk or or feelings you no longer want to have, what can we change that we do in the after part and make that the habit, and then take that, go back to Episode One and run through the process. Every time there's a habit you want to create, we have to go back to Episode One and run through the process, because we might think we know what's going to work. But then when you actually sit down and you look at like, okay, is that easy or hard to do? Is it easy for me to book myself a facial? Yeah, right? Or like, or do I want to? Yes. Can I afford to? Ooh, maybe that makes it harder. So maybe that's not the thing. Every time I talk to my brother who's stressing me out, I'm gonna book myself a facial. That might not be an option, but maybe you always get to go on a hike, right? Or maybe you get to, maybe you get to, you know, go read a book. Or maybe you call, maybe you have, like, some music that you play. This house, whenever we have a big work thing going on that causes a little anxiety, a little nervousness, a little like, oh, I don't know if this is gonna work. I don't know what to do. We actually have a YouTube video that we play, and we play it and it just her voice, calms my nerves, right, her her message, like, lifts my spirits. And by the end, I'm like, I'm ready to do it. I'm ready to do the thing. And so I would just say, like, this part of the habits building does take some self-awareness, huge self-awareness, but also it requires us to explore, like, what is it that we really want? And and it also requires us to to really be honest and take a 30,000 foot view of the things we no longer want. It's so easy to beat ourselves up for the habits you don't like about yourself, reading your email at night, right? If that's a habit that you have, you no longer want Sure. We could just say, don't look at your phone at night. Okay, but then what are you going to do? Because it creates a vacuum. So what are the what is the prompt that makes you open your phone? Can we remove that prompt? Okay, no, we have to have the phone because, like, you have a partner who works late, okay, oan we remove email from your phone? Can we set up apps that allow, that work, that don't allow you to open up your email on your phone after a certain hour? Okay, great. All these things are great ideas, but then, because this is a habit, and because it's going to be plaguing your brain to check that email and you're just going to go to your computer to check it, what can you do instead? How can we replace it so we don't have this void that causes a lot of pull like a magnetized pool? What do you want to do instead? If you aren't checking email at night, what are you doing? So something that I replace, like checking my phone at night with, is actually, one, I take a nice, long shower with, Epsom salt scrub, not a bath, an Epsom salt scrub. Oh my God, I love it. That's one of the really wonderful episodes we did with Rachel Varga. And then, two, I put my red light masks on. I have to lay in my bed with my clean face, my clean chest. I have to lay in my bed for 10 minutes so I can't I can't check my emails. I can't read them. I'm laying in my bed with my red lights on. And then by the time that's over, I'm so tired, it's enough just to get the last moisturizer thing on my face before I fall asleep. Right? So if you have things you want to remove from your life, it is a weave. It's a web that's been woven. So what were the strands that got you to where you are? How do we take those things? How do we untangle this mess? And then what are we gonna place it with that you want to do? Go back through episode one through three, and then you can come back here and work on the next one. These things can take time, so be kind to yourself. Remember celebrations do matter. Shame and judgment do not create habits, nor will they help you unravel a habit.Lesley Logan 15:01  All right. So in our next episode, we are going to talk about just some things to like consider when it comes to making a habit, because I think it's really easy for perfectionism to get in the way. So we're talking about that. And then we'll also go into Episode Six will just be a bit more about how habits can help you be it till you see it. I mean, after all, that's what this podcast is about. Lesley Logan 15:19  If this was helpful. If the series has been helpful, I would it would mean the world to me. If you would send it to a friend. It really the this podcast, the growth of this podcast, it really matters, one, for us to keep doing it. And two, if we want bigger guests, like some of you, have sent me some amazing guests, and I'm like, oh my God, I love that. You think I'm that huge. We definitely have to be huge. So we're getting there. We are getting there so mighty. And it means the world to me that you're listening. And I can't wait to keep growing with you. I can't wait to be it until we see it with you. I can't wait to how you use these habits in your life. So share this with friend as we continue to grow and then the whole world is being it until they see it. Lesley Logan 15:57  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. 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This week's episode features Heather Dubrow—Real Housewives of Orange County star, entrepreneur, podcast host, and proud mom of four—sharing her hard-earned wisdom on living fearlessly, staying authentic, and reinventing yourself in your 50s. She opens up about hitting her stride later in life, feeling more confident than ever, and seizing new opportunities without hesitation. Heather also spills a little Real Housewives tea, shares her favorite health and beauty tips, and gets real about what it takes to keep growing—even when life doesn't go as planned. If you've ever felt stuck, questioned your next step, or wondered if you missed your moment, this episode is for you.In this episode:How authenticity fueled Heather's reality TV successHeather's personal growth, gratitude, and ability to stay groundedThe expectations vs. realities of life for women in their 50sEmbracing fearlessness and new opportunities later in lifeHeather spills the Real Housewives teaHeather's health and beauty tipsHere is my favorite quote from this episode:“We either stay still or we move forward.” - Heather DubrowExperience Bible Life Guides: Forgiven and Free — a 21-day Bible-based journey to emotional freedom, available free at https://try.biblelifeguides.com/products/forgiven-free-with-kim-gravelTake the Quiz: Which Maribelle and the Manger character are you? Find out here: https://bit.ly/4pxUqF8If you want your questions answered then leave a comment or call me and leave me a voicemail at 404-913-6460There is BONUS CONTENT in our free newsletter so make sure to subscribe at https://www.kimgravelshow.comNEW! Order Kim's Holiday Children's BookEmbark on a magical adventure with five friends as they journey together to witness the birth of Jesus! It's a heartwarming holiday tale your whole family will love.Kim's brand-new storybook Maribelle and the Manger is available now: https://maribelleandthemanger.com/?utm_source=lwya.beehiiv.com&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pre-order-kim-s-new-book&_bhlid=075a4287c5257cbe2d43cc23e857262cc9cf39cdConnect with Heather Dubrow:YouTubeInstagramTikTokWebsitePodcastConnect with Me:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠New episodes of The Kim Gravel Show drop every Wednesday at 6pm EST.Support our show by supporting our Sponsors:Beekeepers NaturalsTired of harsh chemicals in your supplements? Carly Kremer, the founder, found relief from recurring tonsillitis with propolis — a natural resin bees use to protect their hive. Now, every ingredient in Beekeeper's Naturals is carefully vetted so you get clean, effective support. If you're looking for natural support rooted in the power of the hive, visit https://beekeepersnaturals.com/.Aura FramesThe holidays are almost here, and Aura Frames is the gift that brings memories to life. Aura is a digital photo frame with unlimited storage that can be updated instantly from any phone, anywhere. It's an easy way to share moments, keep traditions alive, and feel connected every day. You can't wrap togetherness, but you can frame it.For a limited time, visit https://on.auraframes.com/KIM and get $45 off Aura's best-selling Carver Mat frame with promo code KIM at checkout. This exclusive Black Friday/Cyber Monday offer is their best of the year—order before it ends!FactorFuel your best season with Factor — chef-prepared, dietitian-approved meals ready in 2 minutes. Choose from 45 weekly options like Calorie Smart, Protein Plus, and Keto.Visit https://www.factormeals.com/Kim50off and use code KIM50OFF to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping on your first box.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this third Habits Series episode, Lesley gets honest about the messy middle of change and why breaking out of the all-or-nothing trap starts with tiny, testable habits. She explains how experimenting with prompts reveals what actually works, why celebration matters, and how your feelings toward a habit determine whether it sticks. Lesley also shares why you must expand a habit before stacking a new one on top. Listen in and choose one small habit to shrink, test, and celebrate this week.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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When you celebrate, when you make it small, it starts to become a habit. It's really easy to add more in, but before you do that, we have to make sure we've expanded out what we've done. Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:53  All right, Be It babe. Welcome back to the Be It Pod Habits Series. This is a series we wanted you to have, because every time you pick up habits, if you don't know how to make a habit stick, then it's gonna be really frustrating to keep hearing about, like advice, about like, different things you could be doing, or maybe you're hearing it, be it action item. You're like, oh, I want to add that in. And you're like, and then you try, and it sucks and you don't get to do it, and then you feel like a failure, and that's not gonna help you be it till you till you see it. So if this is the first time you're listening to the Be It Pod, hi, I'm Lesley Logan. I am a habits mindset Pilates instructor and business coach, and I want you to listen to the first episode in the Habits Series. So go back to last week's episode. This is episode three, so make sure you go to the first one, all right. If you've been listening to it, then you have been practicing. So like me, you've been practicing your tiny version of the habit you're trying out. We're in experimentation mode, okay. All or nothing mindsets do not work. They don't work. Being a perfectionist doesn't work. You've got to try this in an experimentation mode. In your experimentation mode, maybe you've discovered, like, I was trying to read my book after I sat down for breakfast, I'm gonna pick up my book, right? But maybe you discovered that, like, where you put something, it didn't work. You got to try it for a different time slot. I'll give you an example of a habit I was trying to do. So we have these white counters. They're super beautiful. Like, they look really good, and mag like photos, it's like, so clean. Anytime you do anything in the kitchen, the countertops somehow already look dirty, like they just look like you're like, what the heck? I just walked in here, and now there's dirt. So of course, you make coffee every morning, and of course, once you make coffee, like, even as careful as you are, there's like, somehow grounds everywhere, and it would drive me crazy, because I wanted to have clean countertops. I'm not a, I'm not a, I'm not a, I'm a messy person, not a dirty person. So I don't like the way the coffee grounds were on the counter, but I was struggling to figure out, how do I just wipe down the countertops throughout the day so that they're clean, right? And so I thought, when I was practicing this that, oh, the best habit is, like, after I make my coffee, I'll wipe down the counters. We talked about how specific like prompts don't work. It has to be after something you already do. I always make my coffee. I never miss making my coffee. So after I make my coffee, I'm gonna wipe down the counters. Make the coffee. Put it down. Wipe it down. I visualize this. I thought it had all mapped out. I mean, how hard is it? Oh my gosh, you guys, I struggled so hard two two days in a row of trying this experiment out, that didn't work. So then I tried to make it smaller, okay, well, after I make my coffee, I'll grab the towel. I'm just gonna grab it, I'm just gonna put my hand on it. And that didn't work. And I was like, oh, what is going on? And then I was like, you know, thinking about it, and I was like, well, the motivation at the moment might be in conflict. After I make the coffee, I want the coffee so I don't necessarily want to sit down and clean something. So I changed the experiment to after I put my coffee mug in the sink, I'll wipe down the counter, right? Because now I'm putting the coffee down, I'm in a cleaning mode. I could just, like, wipe down the counter. I'm in the same place that the habit needs to be. And that's another thing. When you're doing the experiment, if you said you wanted to go for a run, but where I before, like, after you do your last email before lunch, you're gonna go for a run, but where you work isn't a place you like to run, or it's not safe to run, or it's you actually need to take the shower, or whatever, like, if there's something in conflict, we have to change the time of when we're trying to do something. And so in your experimentation, you're not just experimenting with the habits that you're testing out. You're experimenting with the size, and you're experimenting with where it goes. So to recap, remember, we talked about like, maybe the habit is to read every day for 20 minutes, but I have to first start with picking the book up. Maybe your habit is running, but you have to first start by putting the shoes on. Right? If you're not used to putting the shoes on, then now, if you're already walking every day, okay, maybe you are going to run block, and if that's too much, you're going to run to the next house, right? How can we make it as small as possible, as tiny as possible, for this to be helpful for you, for this to actually be successful for you, for you also to discover if you like it, right? Like, do you even like this habit? Like, I say I want to read a physical book, but maybe after all, experimenting that I do, I'm like, I actually just like to listen to them, You know what? Right now in my life, I like to listen to them. That's fine, right? So I want you to be thinking, okay, how small can I make it? Am I doing it the right time? Is it after the right thing? So for example, another one would be like, o h, after I get home from work, I'm going to do my Pilates. But after you get home from work might not be specific enough, because maybe you have to put your bag down, then you have to go change your clothes, then you have to, like, let the dog out. So maybe you actually said it would be after work, but it wasn't specific enough. And we actually need to get more specific with when something is happening, and the more specific you can be, right after I sit down at my desk, I will make those sales calls, after I sit down at my desk, I will meditate for five minutes, after I sit down, after I park my car, I will meditate for five minutes, after I brush my teeth, I'll put my phone away. You see how it's like, how specific can we get so that it's not vague after I get home from work, because there's a lot that can go on, and then there's different motivations that happen. We also talked about celebration, right? If you are not celebrating doing the thing you said you're going to do or thinking about doing it, it makes it very difficult for these habits to stick, because then you're having to operate off of the idea that you need 21 days or 70 days. So an example of why we have to celebrate. We all remember, during the pandemic, depending where you lived, we all had to wear masks to go to the grocery store, right? And then there was that day when we all got the permission we don't need to wear the mask. Hallelujah, right? Don't use the mask. Then, oh crap, you got to wear a mask again. How many times you remember the mask? But you wore it every day for three weeks, for a month, if to me, where you lived, we were in California. We wore those masks for months, right? Soon as you had one day, you have to wear it. What happened a week later when you had to, forgot it? Why? Because your brain hated it. You hated wearing the masks, so your brain despised it. So as soon as you didn't have to remember anymore, you didn't remember it anymore. That's why how you feel about something matters. If you don't like something that you're doing, let's not make a habit around it, right? This is your life. You get to live one of them that we know of, so we may as well enjoy it. We want our life to be a series of habits that we enjoy doing that serve us, right? So that is how, that's experimentation. Lesley Logan 7:53  Now let's say you slayed this. It's going really, really well, and you're like Lesley, I have three other habits I wanted to work on, I want to add into I want to do. So that's where the idea of habit stacking comes from with James Clear. BJ doesn't call it that, but yes, every habit is just a prompt to the next habit, okay. So if you are ready to add another one in, you go back to the beginning. What are all the things that you could do? How easy or hard is it to do? How can I make it as tiny as possible? And then where? What is it coming after? How am I doing this my life? And then we experiment with it. So I would not. I don't recommend practicing one more than one new habit at time when you're new at this. Once you're new, you could practice like, two, maybe three different things, doing physical habits, like, habits that are not, how to explain this, emotional habits you don't like about yourself are really hard. Okay, so that's more advanced. So I wouldn't try adding those in or practicing those until we get really good at like, the more tangible habits, like the workouts you want to do, or the acts or services that you want, the space you need in your calendar, that kind of stuff is a little easier. Things that have to do with emotions, for example, I want to stop talking negatively about myself. Well, that's going to require us to be aware first of when we are starting to talk negatively about ourselves. So I would recommend saving those for when you get a little more advanced. But when you want to add a new habit in, you add one at a time, and you make it as small as possible, okay? And if you thought you made it smaller and you didn't, that didn't work, make it even smaller. Okay? If you really want to do it, make it even smaller. I think it's easy for us overachievers and perfectionists, when we start to hear how easy it is to make a habit, we start to go gung ho on all the different habits we want. I promised you that we would do an episode on how to unravel a habit, and I'll make sure that we actually do get into that in the next episode. So if that's what you want, right into the next episode. Lesley Logan 9:58  But I do want to say, this might be the time as you're trying to create space and prompts for the habits you want, you might be noticing the habits that you don't like. And so all I should do right now is just notice them, take note, because in the next episode, we'll dive into that. But when you are I can't, I find myself, like, wanting to come into your home right now and like, whole like, see what you're doing as far as habits you want to add. Because what I don't want is you try to add a bunch of new things at the same time. So for example, if I actually were to tell you all the little habits that I have that I've created for myself, it might overwhelm you. But some people, it actually makes them go after all that. So I do shake plate, I do run, I do do Pilates. I do have red light masks my face and my neck. I do have a pimp mat. I do have a sauna blanket. These are all like, crazy. I'm gonna sound like I have, like, too many things, and I'm like, but these are all things that make me feel good, right? I bought one at a time, and I made sure I had a habit around it before I bought it. So have you ever, like, bought, like, oh, I bought a gua sha, right, two years ago, gua sha, but I didn't actually plan it accordingly to add it into my busy life. So I've actually struggled tremendously on like, when am I going to gua sha? What is the prompt? What is the thing that I do so that I can gua sha. I have moved the gua sha from the bathroom to the extra bathroom, from the extra bathroom to the shower, from the shower to like, let's move different places. I moved it to my bed. I put the oil in my bed. Like, I've tried all these different things. And I really asked myself, like, do I want this habit? Is this making sense? So before you buy any of the things about a habit you want to have, it's really important for you to explore like, where do I think this could be, and what part of this habit can I practice? How small can I make it before I make this purchase? So I don't buy things that I'm not going to use, so I don't put pressure on myself, because what happens is we have the sunk cost fallacy. We're like, oh my gosh, I spent all this money on this thing. I've got to do it. And then we have stress and shame around that thing. And so then, what does our brain do? Not do it. It doesn't do it right, because it's not even thinking about it. So I would really try to find, like, the things that you're wanting to add into your life, if you are wanting to add in more Pilates, like, how can we make rolling out the Pilates mat or putting out the Pilates clothes? How can we make a habit around something tiny before you invest in the Reformer or the studio membership, things like that? So, I, my team and I talk about, like, stack it like you mean it. It's once you have this ability to make habits at the drop of a hat, because that's what's going to happen, right? When you celebrate, when you make it small, it starts to become a habit, like a dropof a hat. It's really easy to add more in, but before you do that, we have to make sure we've expanded out what we've done. So remember, with my example from the last couple episodes, I want to read more. So after I sit down at breakfast, I pick up the book. So far I've picking up the book. I haven't read the book. I haven't fulfilled the eventual habit, which is, like, I'm going to read this book. This book is going to be coming. I actually read so before I stack another habit, like after I pick up the book, I go, I go to, you know? I go, do I shake plate. I have to, actually, once it gets easier for me to just grab that book without thinking about, with having to remember it, then I can read the book, right? I can read a page. And so maybe the next habit is like, okay, after I sit down for breakfast, I read one page of my book, and when that becomes easier, and I start to realize, oh, I average at five pages, then it could be like, okay, I read for all the entire time having breakfast. Once that becomes easier, then I can stack something else after that book, but I cannot stack anything on top of the book until that habit is set and it's only going to get and it and it's at the place that I want it. So I have to, like, expand it as much as I wanted, because once I stack them on top of it, I have hamstrung the book reading. Right? I can only read the book as long as nothing is coming after it. That could shorten how long I read the book. That makes sense? If you were wanting to run a mile every day, and you're like, okay, after I take off my running shoes, I then stretch for 10 minutes, but you have a time concern when you have to actually get done with your stretching, if you haven't really expanded the running to what you want it to be, putting that next habit on top of it, one, it could it could fail the moment you skip a run. Two, you might not get to a full mile by the time you have to start stretching, and then that's going to affect your ability to feel good about what you're doing. We'll have stress and shame around it. We'll have guilt, we'll have judgment. We won't do it, right? So emotions really do matter. So I want you to understand, like, how do I expand? When am I ready to expand the habit, should feel really natural. And then once that happens, then I can stack on top of it. Until then, I can only stack on things that are already secure and already doing well. And if I stack on them, I have to, one, make sure that I've experimented on the size of the habit that I'm stacking the emotional celebration afterwards that I'm doing before I add another one. So no one is adding, no one is adding more than a couple habits at a time, experimentations at a time. Ideally, you start with one at a time, until you get good at it, then you can do two. I think the max, I would say it would be like three in a week. Lesley Logan 15:39  Your homework is to review that. Notice the habits you're wanting to unravel, because that's gonna be the next episode. And I guess I want to just say, like, notice if there's habits that you're like but Lesley, I really want to change these things about myself. They're a little bit more esoteric, a little bit more in the brain, like we're talking about, like, negative self-talk. Also, just write those down, because we'll talk about those kinds of things in the next episode as well. But they are just a bit more advanced, because you have to actually be able to catch yourself like, oh, there was a negative, negative self-talk moment, and then we can have a habit that we do instead. So those are just some things we'll talk more about that soon. It's going to fit better with the unraveling of a habit, because, again, things that no longer serve us are just habits that we used to think did, and they're doing something in our brain that makes us keep it around, and we have to figure out what's prompting that, what's starting that. How is that? How can we, what control do we have around that? There's so many different things we can talk about. So anyways, this is about, hopefully, that gave you some ideas on how to habit stack, how to make something tiny be more closer to the habit that you want. And most importantly, it takes time becoming like, being it until you see it just takes time. Having habits that you actually want to have in a life you want to have. It's not a light switch, it's it's more like this really fun little heartbeat graph as we practice, and we figure it out, and, oh, we it's the wrong place in the day practice and then it becomes something that actually is sustainable and feels good, and you don't even have to think about it. And all of a sudden, you're like, oh, I read every morning. And people like, when do you do this? How do you do this? And you're like, I just do it right? That's what we want. That's how good a good habit can become. It's something you don't even have to think about. You don't have to think about. You don't have to celebrate anymore, because you just do it. And that is a question I get a lot like, when do I get to stop celebrating when your habit is at the length of time or the intention that you want, and you don't have to you don't have to remind yourself you just picked up the book, you got lost reading. You just put your phone away and you went and you had two hours before bed, three hours before bed without screen time, like when it just becomes so natural, that's when you get to stop celebrating, because it's now a habit and you can add something on top of it. So not stacking habits until you have habits in place, is one of the best ways to having a schedule that really doesn't feel overwhelming, to having a life, to having a life that actually does lead you to where you want to grow. Thank you so much. You guys are so so amazing. How are these working for you? How is the series working for you? I want to know. What habits are you working on? What habit, what wins are you having, I want to celebrate that on our on our FYF episode. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 18:18  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 19:00  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 19:05  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 19:10  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 19:17  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 19:20  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this quick FYF, Lesley shares a quirky “wrong party” idea from Priya Parker that's inspiring her next birthday and highlights community wins—from book-writing commitments to double-class teaching to flying abroad to meet a mentor. She also reflects on her own win of saying yes to a friend's idea and letting it grow into a shared adventure worth celebrating.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Priya Parker's “wrong party” idea inspires Lesley's birthday plans.Community wins from book-writing commitments to traveling solo abroad.How saying yes to a friend's idea led to planning a shared trip.How letting ideas expand can create once-in-a-lifetime experiences.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsPriya Parker - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DO9RFzmjrJqThe Art of Gathering by Priya Parker - https://a.co/d/8Wj7Qp0Episode 1: Joanna Vargas - https://beitpod.com/ep1Episode 3: Rob Mack - https://beitpod.com/ep3Episode 5: Amy Ledin - https://beitpod.com/ep5 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday.Lesley Logan 0:01  Fuck yeah.Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. Happy December 12th. Oh my God, if you, if you're listening to this, what you didn't hear is when I started this episode, and I was so proud of my intro, it was so amazing, and I hadn't hit record on the podcast now, so, you know, super fun. We're just taking messy action around here. We are just rolling with it. And I have so many things I'm like, it's like, which win to share? Because got some wins for you. So, but first. we have to do something that inspired me. Hopefully it inspires you. Then some of your wins you've sent in, then a one of mine, then your affirmation. That's the way. That's the episode. It's quick, it's dirty, if you like something longer, like the sound of my voice, I don't know, sometimes I wonder if I feel like I have a sinus infection all the time. Then you can listen to the interview episodes. I hope you do. They're really amazing. And then you can listen to recaps. Also, this month, we're running an entirely different series. We're running the Habit series. I'm really, really excited about it, and I hope that it helps you. So, all right, the thing that inspired me. This I think I'm gonna do okay. So if in January you see me do this and share about my birthday, it's because I did this. And if it inspires you, I would love you to tag me in this. So the, Priya Parker, who has a great book about, like, entertaining and parties, and it's just an incredible book. I've read it many, many times, and I might even listen to it again while we're on this tour, because it's just really, it's like the art of gathering, right? And I'm really big in community, and there's just so many great things about it. But she shares different weird ways that people get together, and this so this invite is called, you got an invite for the wrong party, so you come dressed for the wrong party, meaning you come dressed in a Halloween costume, but it's a birthday party, you come dressed up like it's a funeral, but it's a birthday party, you come dressed up like winning an award or in your wedding dress. I might do that for my birthday. I might wear my own my wedding dress, and then someone could wear that. How fun is this? So I'm kind of obsessed about this, because with all of our tours that we've had, it's been really hard for me to, like, have a birthday party the last couple of years. We just had a lot going on. Just haven't wanted to do it. But now with this, this invite going out, I mean, like, I might do outfit changes, you guys, I'm not even kidding. So if you want to see the video of this, because the visual makes it just, like, even that more amazing, definitely check the show notes. But seriously, if you do this, I want to know, copy me, but this, it's like a choose your own adventure party, like, on on steroids, like just, I don't even, I don't even know how to pick which outfit to wear to the wrong birthday party, but that's what I'm going to do. Lesley Logan 3:13  All right. Your wins. So you guys can send these into the Be It Pod under beitpod.question, beitpod.com/questions wow my brain went faster than my mouth. So send it in. You can send your questions. We answer those on the recap episodes. Of course, these wins. Here we go. Ready? @meganjoypilates, I signed up for a book writing program. That's amazing. Do you I freaking love that, Megan, that you are celebrating that with us, because, like I love that you're celebrating that you signed up for something I love that you're not waiting till you wrote the book. Thank you so much for celebrating this one with us, because that makes it more fun to celebrate like the things that we were like I thought about doing that thing that is a win, right? Okay, @creative_soul_pilates, I was able to cover Pilates classes for a friend. I taught mine and hers so she could have a break without worrying. Her clients love her, and I was able to give them a great class too. That's so cool. What a win. I love that you didn't have imposter syndrome. I love that you showed up, you did it for a friend, and you got something. You had a win out of it. Way to go, babe. And then, @purapilates_yasmin, going out of my comfort zone to travel alone to the UK and meet my amazing mentor, Yasmeen, that was so fun. What a win that was, first of all, like you did, travel to a different country, we got to meet, we got to hang out, but you also stayed with a stranger. It's not a stranger anymore, but just like so many out of the comfort zone things, and it's just, I love that you're celebrating getting outside of your comfort zone. We need to do that more. Who wants to send in their win of them getting out of their comfort zone? Okay, so thank you for sending your wins in. Those are so fun. Send them in. They can be long. They can be short. They don't have to be like, oh my God, I have my biggest launch ever. Like, that's cool, especially if you hit a goal. We rarely hit our goals around here, and I still believe this year is super successful. So a win of mine. Well, I shared with you a win earlier this year where I took a four day weekend before a crazy travel time so I could have time off, and I was really proud of the work that we did so they could have that win, which is having four days with my friend, and while she was here, we were playing our next adventure together. And my win is hearing an idea of what we could do together, and then, like, doing something from episode one, like, literal Episode One, how does it get better than this? How does it get better than this? And so I can't wait to share what this is with you when it comes to fruition. We haven't picked our dates yet. There's a couple things that are we're waiting for, like, essentially, a Pilates piece of equipment has to get released. So I can get that Pilates piece of equipment in my house. Once it's in my house, then I can sell the Pilates equipment that I this is a duplicate of to my friend, and then my friend and I are going to this amazing like Thelma and Louise without the driving-off-the-cliff-part adventure. So I will celebrate many wins with you as I plan that trip. But I just want like, I will say, like, sometimes I'll hear ideas that require a lot more of my time, and my instant fear, like my instant feeling is, how am I going to do that? Do have time to do that? Like, that's my I instant fear, my instant thought. But instead, when, when she mentioned this, I but she mentioned she wanted this piece of equipment, and she's like, how are we going to get it? And then I was like, Well, you guys could road trip. And it was like, well, we could road trip. I'm kind of telling you the thing. And then I was like, oh, and we could do this. And then she's like, well, you could do this. I'm like, how does it get better? We could do this, and we could and all of a sudden it became this incredible adventure. And I didn't let my worry of like, how am I gonna make this happen stop me from just letting it be as big as it can be. And so for my perfectionist and overachievers in this room, I hope that you get to hear an amazing, great idea, and then you get to go and run with it. And if you haven't listened to Episode One, I highly recommend going back. Episode One is so good. Episode Three is amazing. Episode Five is great. Like our beginning catalog, I suck as an interviewer, but the guests are phenomenal. I guess I don't suck. People said I was really good, but, you know, I was being it till I see it on that. So if you want to hear that from where we are now, which is like over episode 600 but that's my win, my win is just like not letting the details and logistics stop me from dreaming super big about once in a lifetime shared experience. Lesley Logan 7:18  So anyways, now it's time for an affirmation. Do you see wins can be anything. It's gonna be anything. Okay. So the affirmation for your weekend is I am growing and I am going at my own pace. I am growing and I am going at my own pace. I am growing and going at my own pace. My loves you are, and there is no race there we there's not like even if you were born in the same day at the same time as somebody else, if you were in different parts of this country, you'd have a different birth chart. So you're on a different pace. You're running your own you're growing at your own version of it, all right? And we want to hear about it. Want to celebrate with you. So send them in to the beitpod.com/questions, share this podcast with a friend who needs to hear it. Share your favorite episode. Leave a review. These things mean a lot to us. They make the world go round, and they make podcasts get better. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 8:12  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 8:54  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 8:59  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 9:04  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 9:11  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 9:14  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this second episode of the Habits Series, Lesley breaks down how to actually make a habit stick without rigid streaks or all-or-nothing thinking. She explains why random reminders usually fail and why pairing tiny actions with routines you already do is far more effective. You'll hear how she shrinks a new habit to its smallest doable version and uses in-the-moment celebration to reinforce it.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Understanding why prompts and timers often fail in real-life routines.Mapping your existing routines to identify reliable habit anchors.The importance of making a habit small it's nearly impossible to skip.How to choose one tiny habit and tying it to something you already do.Building emotional safety around the habit before growing it.Episode References/Links:Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/cW2pFicEpisode 568: Anthony Benenati - https://beitpod.com/ep568Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Why do we need to do this? Because celebration creates a dopamine high in your brain. Your brain feeds off of that, and so it starts to remember. Lesley Logan 0:09  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:52  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? Welcome back to our sexy Habits Series. We're bringing sexy back. You know what? We're bringing it back in the habits way, because truly, everything that we want in our life and being it till we see it is just a series of habits that we intentionally put into our lives. And if we don't intentionally do it, then we end up with a bunch of other people's habits or demands and needs or things we think should be doing, and we wonder why our life is miserable or it's not what we want, or we're exhausted or burnt out. And so this is the second episode on series, and we're going to dig into what we talked about in the last one. So I will say, normally, I joke around saying, if you haven't listened to the first one, you can listen to this and then go back. No, go, listen to the first one. It's right below. Sometimes this, in your feed, sometimes it can be really hard. If you're on the OPC app, or Profitable Pilates app, it's easier to find. On Apple, you have to, like, go to the show and then find it. But anyways, you want to do this whole series, has one thing, okay, starting from the beginning, I know we like to skip ahead, but you know. Lesley Logan 1:52  So, I'm gonna do a little review of what we talked about in the last episode. Was just that, like, there is no such thing as a bad habit. There are habits that maybe no longer serve us, which we we talk a little bit like what serves you in the Anthony Benenati episode, so feel free to check that out. But all, everything that we have as habits is telling our brain something that feels good, because our brain is actually running away from shame and guilt and stress into things that actually make us feel good. So even if you don't like something you think it stresses you out. There's something that it's giving you that is why you keep going after it. Okay? Lesley Logan 2:25  So, the other thing we did was we actually talked about how you need, like, something you need to do before you can actually add a habit to your life, which is, get really clear on what you want. So for the example we used, I said I wanted to read more. Then we put up a bunch of ideas on how I could read more. And then we did a little procedure we figured out on a scale of want to do, don't want to do, hard to do, easy to do. And we came up with a few ideas, right? So get your sheet out, because that's what we're going to use for this next episode. And we're going to we're going to do one habit at a time. So we're also going to talk about how to add a habit into your life. And we're also going to go about why prompts don't work. And I talked about something a little bit in the first episode, and I'm going to reiterate why it's important to do it in here. So, before we can go back to our piece of paper, of the quadrants, I think it's best to talk about right now, like where habits can go in your life. So I mentioned that there's things that we do automatically every day, how we wake up in the morning. That's a habit. What we do after we take our first step, second step, like, in what order do you go the bathroom, brush your teeth, wash your face, whatever those things are that you do, right, when you get your coffee. There are things that we do naturally. Why is that important? Because in the in the studies of behaviors and habits, BJ Fogg found, and this is proven by a lot of companies, prompts like dings, don't help, because we actually tend to ignore it. So your phone going take your medicine, right? If your medicine is right there, it's easy for you to do the prompt, but if your medicine is not there, you ignore it. And once you ignore it one time, it's actually really easy to ignore the second time, and all of a sudden you've just been ignoring it for weeks. I have reminders on my phone from a year ago that I just ignore, like I don't even know, I don't delete it, but like, it's now a habit to just ignore it. So prompts only work if you're actually in the place to do the thing that you said you would do. Now, look, I understand people like, oh, I do the Pomodoro method, Lesley, when the bell goes off, I easily switch. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about like you are, you have a timer going off to go for a run, but you're stuck in a meeting, right? We want to make sure that whatever prompts you have, like, we don't want to set you up for a failure, where you have prompts to do something and then you could possibly not be able to do the thing, to ignore the prompt. We don't want that. So in the last episode, I talked about like, scheduling in time to read. That's an easy habit. I want to do it. Why won't that work?Lesley Logan 5:05  Well, one, my schedule changes every single week, so I'm gonna have to do this regularly. It's gonna happen. I'm actually gonna have to make it a habit to go to my schedule and add this in. But, two, if the prompt goes off that it's time for me to read and I don't have my book with me, it's so easy for me to ignore that prompt that it becomes a thing in my schedule I don't even look at, right? So we don't that's not a perfect habit for me to have. There was another one that set a timer to read for 20 minutes. That can work as long as the habit of grabbing the book is already in place, having it go for 20 minutes might help me, my brain not go, Oh, my God, I have to be somewhere like it might having a timer might actually calm my brain to actually do the reading. But that would be another habit I have to create is to set the timer on top of the book. So it's not gonna be the easiest thing for a habit person to do, right? To make a habit around. So, so prompts are anything that you put that's gonna be a prompt to do the thing you want to do. I'm going to encourage you to think not about that and not use that, because I I don't want it to be your phone prompting you. What if your phone's not around when that prompt goes off? So there's, see how it's easy for this to fail. So going back to we already naturally do things. So this is how we're going to create habits. This is the key to the kingdom. This, if you get nothing else from this habit series, this is the thing. There are things we naturally do, typically around morning, afternoon and evening, typically around meals, where we wake up, we go to bed. So I mentioned I wanted you to observe what you do every day during the day, so in the morning, what are the things you naturally do? Remember in the first episode, I said, oh, I want to add a cold plunge when I'm going to do it my day. So I went through my day and I sort of go, okay, the cold plunge, first of all, it's important to know where the cold plunge is. It is in the back of my house, right? So it's near my bedroom. It's not in my bedroom, it's near my bedroom. It's in the same room that I do my makeup. It's the same room that my hats are, my accessories, all that stuff is there. Okay? It's this extra bathroom. So I in the morning, I get up before the cold plunge would happen, I would get up, go to the bathroom, put on some sunscreen and grab my allergy medicine, drink some water, take the dog for a walk, right? After the dog walk, I come back, I would make my coffee, make his breakfast. I used to have a little extra, like nutritious drink in there. Do that. Then I would do my Pilates. Then after my Pilates, I would make some breakfast, and then I would go into the shower, then I get ready for the day, then I do my makeup, then I sit down on my desk, right? So that's my morning. So you can hear there's like, some things that I do, like naturally we, those of us who drink coffee, we drink we don't even go there's no time or going up time to make my coffee. And back to my prompts example, like you don't have that you just naturally do it, right? There's no time you're going up when it's time to floss your teeth. You just do it after you brush your teeth. So same thing around lunchtime. What do I do around the middle of the day? Well, after I finish my last thing before my lunch break, I get up, I go in the kitchen, I make my lunch, I sit down at the table. After I'm done with my lunch. Then I typically go back to work, right? And then after work, I do blah, blah, blah, blah. And then before bed, it looks like walking the dog, taking a shower and putting my phone on the charger, going to sleep. Okay, so that might be what you write down. So I want you to take a piece of paper and just like start to write down all the things you just down all the things you just do automatically, okay, and the morning, afternoon, evening. Once you know this, then it makes it easier for us to go, okay, well, when are we going to add something in? So to add the cold plunge, and I can look, well, where can the cold plunge be? It definitely doesn't fit once I've gotten ready for the day, and I don't want to cold plunge before bed, so it has to happen before I get ready, before I get ready for the day. Okay, so then I can actually start to play with, okay, so is it after I go to the bathroom I can go for the cold plunge? Is it after the dog walk that I go for the cold plunge? That's where I can play with it, right? Something I got it when I got a shake plate, I had to do this, like, when am I gonna do this shake plate thing? It's like, okay, should I do it after I go to the gym? Should I do it after a dog walk? So you kind of want to put it somewhere where you already are doing something that you already easily do. No problems. You never miss. Okay? After, here, after, I'm gonna say, after a lot, okay, so once you have figured out a places where the new habit can go. So for my example, I want to read more. And I said it might be easy, and I want to do is to read a book at breakfast. So basically, I have to think about like, where do I have my breakfast? I have my breakfast at the kitchen table. So after I sit down at the kitchen table, I will pick up my book. Notice how I didn't say I'd read my book. We'll talk about that in a little bit, but I'll pick up my book. So that can be that's where I can have the habit, because I'm trying that one out. Another one I said I would try out is I'd read when I play a video game, which means I have to think about when I'm playing my video game, all right. And to be honest, I could absolutely replace reading with playing my video game when I'm on, when I'm just, when I'm not, like, in a car, I can go, oh, when I'm in a car, like my video game, but when I'm at home, right? This one's a little harder, because I don't actually have a set time that I do it. It's just something that I do. So that's going to be a bit more advanced, and I'm just going to put that one, I'm going to table that one for right now. And then I said I would set a timer for 20 minutes. That's more of a remember, I have to have a habit to do the habit. So what I can do for right now is just put, let's just focus on reading at the breakfast reading while I have breakfast, okay. Lesley Logan 11:08  So now that I have my idea of what the habit is, I'm going to try to create, which is I'm settled on, pretty sure it's going to be reading at breakfast. Now I have to make the habit really small. So you heard me specifically say, Okay, I'm going to after I sit down to have breakfast, I will pick up my book, because right now I don't have the habit of reading at breakfast, so I cannot go after I sit down, I'm going to read my book for 20 minutes. That is a lot. I'm not used to doing that. I might not even be aware of all the different things I kind of do during breakfast. Like, if I think about it, sometimes I'm having breakfast and I'm talking to a girlfriend. Sometimes I'm having breakfast. I'm also like, getting by on a snack. Like, and like, because I think I sit down and I just like, hang out at breakfast. I think this is a good time, but I have to test it. I have to experiment with it. So I have to make it very small. I pick up my book this way I can actually have an achievable goal. One of the reasons why so many people struggle with building habits is they make it too big. So a lot of you are like, oh, I want to have better sleep, so I'm not going to use I'm not going to look at my screen two hours before bed, right? But two hours before bed, what if you usually are checking the email and setting alarms and sending texts to friends, and there's a lot of different things, and you don't have anything else that you're doing. So what if that tonight you actually, an hour before bed, then don't check your phone, you feel like a failure because you said you wouldn't do it for two hours, and you only did it for an hour. In that case, I would say, I, you know, after I brush my teeth, to go to bed, I put my phone away, right, so that, like, there's a set prompt that's physical, that's already a habit, you have to put your phone away. And then as I get stronger, maybe it's after I have dinner, I put my phone away, or after I start making dinner, I put my phone away. Do you see how we can like, we can have a better prompt, but we want to make it as small as possible so it could be achievable and we can celebrate ourselves. Okay? So that's the habit I'm going to work on this week is after I sit down for breakfast, I'm going to pick up my book. Okay? Lesley Logan 13:20  I want this week to be your practice. So between now and our next episode on habits, we'll have an FYF, and then we'll have an episode about habit stacking, because I know a lot of you want to work on more than one habit at a time. We'll talk about that next week. But between now and then, while you're experimenting, here's the other thing you have to do. So one, you make it really small, tiny, tiny, tiny. Two, you have to celebrate. You have to celebrate that you did it. So after I sit down to have breakfast, I pick up my book, and then I'm going to say I'm amazing, or I'm going to high five myself, or I'm going to jump up and down, or I'm going to play my favorite song, or I'm going to tell, tell, text my friend. Oh, my God, you won't believe this, I picked up my book I said I was going to read, right? I have to celebrate. If I sit down, start eating my breakfast, almost finish and go, oh, oh, my God, I forgot. I'm supposed to grab my book. I'm going to celebrate that I remembered it. And if I can do it, I will grab my book. Why do we need to do this? Because celebration creates a dopamine high in your brain. Your brain feeds off of that, and so it starts to remember. Every time I pick up a book, I feel good about myself. So I am going to remember to pick up this book because after I picked up this book, I felt really good about myself. After I remembered this book, I felt really good about myself. So when you celebrate, thinking about doing the habit, or actually doing the habit, and you celebrate, you are well on your way to creating a habit. They do not take 21 days. They take a dopamine high. They take an emotional good feeling. That's what they take, okay, so already, like, I'm like, so excited. go pick up a book I get, my brain is like, where is this book? What's so, what's so cool about this is when you do it like this, when it's not from a timer and it's not out of all or nothing, oh my God, I picked up my book, but I couldn't read for 20 minutes like I said, I would I only read for 10, I'm such a loser, that actually stresses the brain out, makes the brain go I don't even want to look at the book. You won't even see the book at the table, because your brain is like, I don't want to see that, because it makes me feel bad about myself, and I don't want to feel bad at myself. But when you actually celebrate it, your brain starts to see all the different times you can read a book. So here's what happens, right? What will happen is, I won't just be reading the book at breakfast. I'm going to start reading books twice, two different times during the day, because my brain is going to be seeking out opportunities for me to read my book, to pick up my book, but notice how I said I'm going to practice this week, just picking up my book and celebrating that. So if you want to make coffee for two, maybe the habit is just putting two cups on the counter, right? If you want to move your body more. Maybe the habit is putting on the running shoes or setting out the clothes to go to the gym or picking the workout you would have done. You know, we tell OPC members like if you're not used to being consistent with a Pilates practice, maybe the habit is just logging in and pressing play. Anything you do after that habit is extra credit. Okay? So, extra credit. If all I do this whole week at breakfast is pick up the book, I have done my job, I get to celebrate. Okay? So I think that that is a good spot for us to leave today. So think about the different ways you like to celebrate if you're struggling with the celebration part, my perfectionist, because it's something so small and who cares? BJ Fogg does have like, 100 different ways you can celebrate, and he has a really cool thing in his book on how to figure out which ways you would like to celebrate you've got kids. It's so easy because you can just go high five, I picked up a book, and it's like I picked up a book, like, we can all create a habit picking a book, right? So you you can do it with them. But some of us need like it to be verb, like auditory. We hear it. Some of us need to like move our body in celebration. Some of us need to play a song. Do not go if I do this all week long, then I have a reward. That's not how habits are created. Doesn't work that way. Has to be in the moment. Has to be something great, okay, something that makes you feel really, really good. So want you to practice that this week. We'll come back next week and we'll dive into how to stack another habit on top of this, and how to expand the habits that you are basically growing here, right? Like, what comes next? How do I know that we can, you know, go from just picking up the book to opening up the page. When does that happen? So we'll go into that more in the next episode. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Oh, but also, I want to know what habit you're working on. What are you practicing on? DM me, a DM to Be It Pod or tag me so I can celebrate you, right? Like it's really helpful when other people are cheering you on as well, to cheer yourself on. Thank you so much. Have an amazing day. Lesley Logan 18:03  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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