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What if beauty wasn't vanity but a radical form of self-respect? In this recap, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell revisit their inspiring conversation with aesthetic nurse and rejuvenation expert Rachel Varga, exploring what it truly means to age with confidence. From skincare and collagen to breathwork and mindset, they unpack how honoring your appearance can deepen—not diminish—your self-worth. Tune in to learn why self-care is never selfish and how real confidence shines from the inside out.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How reframing skincare as self-care redefines beauty and confidence.Why genuine confidence changes how you show up in life.How rejuvenation aligns how you feel with how you look.The role of protein, creatine, and collagen in healthy aging.How breathwork lowers cortisol and slows signs of aging.Episode References/Links:World Kindness Movement - https://www.theworldkindnessmovement.orgOPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourPilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandXContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsXFlash Cards - https://opc.me/flashcardsSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsLL on School of Radiance - https://beitpod.com/lesleyonachelsodSchool of Radiance Website - https://www.theschoolofradiance.com (Code: LesleyLogan15 for 15% off one-on-one sessions, tutorial, and membership)Amy Cuddy's TED Talk - https://youtu.be/Ks-_Mh1QhMc100 Acts of Love by Kim Hamer - https://a.co/d/0HLOjhO If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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It's an action. It's something that you're doing so that you can show up as your whole self and give the world the version of you that will make an impact. That cannot be bad. Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:09  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the rejuvenating convo I have with Rachel Varga in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, you need to do it, because she's amazing, and we've been using her tips, and some of them are extremely effective. I other ones I just haven't tried yet. I'm really impressed. But today, before we get into Rachel's amazing tips for your rejuvenating means, like skin all that kind of stuff, today is November 13th and it is World Kindness Day. Brad Crowell 1:40  Yes, it is. Lesley Logan 1:07  Damn it. That's what my papa Jake would say, celebrating like, meaning like we're gonna do it like that kind of damn it, okay. Celebrated internationally, this holiday was formed in 1998 to promote kindness throughout the world, and it's observed annually on November 13th as part of World Kindness Movement. It's observed in many countries, including the United States, Canada, Japan, Australia and the UAE. World Kindness Day presents us with the opportunity to reflect upon one of the most important unifying human principles. Oh, just period. On a day devoted to the positive potential of both large and small, acts of kindness try to promote and diffuse this crucial quality that brings people of every kind together.Brad Crowell 2:17  Yeah, so the World Kindness Movement. Lesley Logan 2:25  Tell us more. Brad, Brad Crowell 2:26  the world Kindness Movement is an organization, and they so well the world kindness movement.org if you're interested in reading more. I found it really intriguing that this is even a day, but I like the idea. I just think it's important that we are being conscious of this sharing kindness generally, because I think that in our extreme split political environment and belief in science and reality versus non science and non reality, it actually creates a lot of frustration. It really creates a lot of frustration for me, and this is a good reminder to that we still have to treat people who, you know, we definitely disagree with. We still have to treat them as humans, as people, even if we don't think what they're doing or thinking or saying makes sense, they're still humans, and we still have to treat them with kindness, regardless.Lesley Logan 3:18  You know, what's interesting about this is like we used to when we lived in LA, many of our neighbors were homeless, right? Like where we lived, and it's so easy. I watch people like they turn their head away from homeless people like they just don't even look at them, but then they wonder why they're not treating the area like with respect. It's like we don't feel like we're human. You know, you're not looking them in the eye. There are simple acts of kindness you can do every day. In fact, Kim Scott wrote a book, 100 Acts of Love, which you can put kindness in there. There are things you can do for people. Obviously, that book was written for people going through a loss, but there are things you can do. And it's really funny, art, art. My dad is like, he like acts like he hates talking to people. But then we go to the gym, which is through a casino, and he talks to everybody. He knows the name of every security guard. He knows every he knows the name of every parking attendant, right? He we now know the names of several dealers at the casino. And you know what I think makes them their day is that we just like, say hi. They're not they're staying there, waiting for someone to come to their booth or whatever, and we're like, morning, good morning. It just makes people feel seen. Like even just acknowledging people with an eye contact and a wave makes people feel seen. And I think that if we did more of that, the world will be a better place. So I think. Maslow hierarchy of needs is really real. Maslow's hierarchy, hierarchy of needs. It's a hard word for me tonight. And we judge people based on like, Oh my God. I can't believe they did that. But if they don't know where their food or meal or health care is coming from, of course they did that. You are in the Enlightened level because. You have some privileges to your life, and I'm not saying that to make you feel bad about yourself, but it is, we have to stop judging people who have less than us. We have to have more kindness. I I'm in. Okay, you take us through the first half of this list. It's long. Brad Crowell 5:13  All right, we're gonna move real quick through our upcoming events and travel y'all so come join us, if you, if we're gonna be near you. Okay, in November this no, this month we are going to do.Lesley Logan 5:22  Right now the month we're in. Brad Crowell 5:24  Thanks. This month we're gonna go, we're gonna have a Black Friday, Cyber Monday sale for OPC only. Okay, for OPC only. It's gonna be the 26th through December 1st. So check your email for more information. We're gonna send you an email on the 19th. Lesley Logan 5:35  We're not gonna tell you what it is, you just have to find out. Brad Crowell 5:37  So that's six days from now. Then next is winter tour. We are actually going to be on the road in December, and we've already made the announcements go to opc.me/tour for tickets, all the things.Lesley Logan 5:50  Days are already sold out, so you got to get in there quick. Brad Crowell 5:53  Yep. Okay. So next is while we're not doing a Black Friday, Cyber Monday sale in for Profitable Pilates at the end of December, we are going to have a sneak peek option offer for you to join Agency. We haven't really made this announcement anywhere except for the pod, so you are the enlightened ones. As we were talking about, we're giving you a heads up if you've ever considered joining Agency, but you weren't quite sure if it was for you. We got we're going to do just a short month where you can, like, figure it out, see if it's your jam, and join us. Lesley Logan 6:24  Well, it's a full month, but it's a short commitment.Brad Crowell 6:27  Short commitment. I mean, it'll be a month. So anyway, it'll be the end of December, December 26th through the 31st and then in January, Les?Lesley Logan 6:35  I'll be the Pilates journal Expo in Huntington Beach. It's the first one that they're doing in the US. And I've got a world premiere of a workshop that they were like, we love that people really want to, just like, ask you questions. And don't worry, there's an actual workshop to it, but it's a space where you can ask me questions. And so you want to go to xxll.co/pilatesjournal to get your tickets to that. Then also, in January, we're going to open up the early bird discount for our retreat for 2026 and many of you asked about it, you need to be on the waitlist if you want the discount. If you want to pay full price, don't get on the waitlist. It's fine. Go to crowsnestretreats.com and February, Agency Mini is happening. It is you want to get on the waitlist for that as well. Different waitlist link. It's prfit.biz/mini. What is Agency Mini? It's like three days of us digging into your business and on like a problem. So you can see what it's like to coach with us. That's for Pilates instructors and studio owners and anyone who's like in that service-based industry. And then in March, we are going to Poland, and we're going to Brussels with Karen Frischmann. There are different workshops at each they are on different days, because we cannot be in two places at once. So if you are interested in Poland, it's gonna be the one that happens before Brussels. And I can't remember the dates of it, but it's xxll.co/poland it's like the third weekend in March, and then the last weekend of March is Brussels. Not only we there with Karen Frischmann, we're gonna be there with Ignacio, whose last name I can't remember at this moment, but he's amazing, and the most beautiful eyes and the most incredible kind instructor. xxll.co/brussels and then in April, P.O.T London will be there with Claire Sparrow and some amazing other people. You're not gonna want to miss it. So there's your links they're in the show notes. Brad Crowell 8:20  Ignacio Rodriguez. Lesley Logan 8:22  Oh, Ignacio Rodriguez, yes, well, anyways, he is a special soul. I mean. Brad Crowell 8:26  He's from Spain, yeah. Lesley Logan 8:27  I know he's like, a Pilates Buddha. Brad Crowell 8:29  Yes, he's awesome. Lesley Logan 8:31  That's what I like. Whenever I was around him, I just was like, oh my God, he's the calmest person. Like his energy is so calm you cannot be anything but that around him, he doesn't listen to this podcast. So he wouldn't hear the compliment. Okay, before we get into Rachel's episode, who, what is our question this week?Brad Crowell 8:50  Okay this week, with a question on YouTube from @BodyFlexZone, all about the OPC Flashcard Deck series, they asked, Hey, could you possibly include the exo chair and the springboard in your flashcards?Lesley Logan 9:07  So BodyFlexZone, I'm sorry to tell you the news, but this is exciting too, so don't turn it off. We're not going to do that.Brad Crowell 9:15  No. Lesley Logan 9:16  No. Brad Crowell 9:17  Here's why. Lesley Logan 9:18  Here's why. They're included already. How do I explain this? The I write the cards as a classically trained instructor with classical equipment. They are edited by a contemporary trained instructor who has contemporary equipment, including she is has an exo chair and was trained on a springboard, and the measurements for how to use the hooks on your springboard exist in the Cadillac deck now.Brad Crowell 9:46  So, so while we are not creating a special deck for the exo chair or a special deck for the springboard, if you get the Chairs Deck, the exo chair information would be applicable. It's applicable. You know the information of the Chairs Deck is applicable to the exo chair. And in the same vein, the Cadillac Tower Deck is applicable. It includes information about springboard informationLesley Logan 10:09  Correct, because some springboards have pushed through bars, some springboards don't. There are cards that will say it's pro like they're marked that they might not be available on a tower, which means they're definitely not available on a springboard and so. But also, there's a card in each deck on how to use the deck, and it explains, if you have an Exo chair, like how to it doesn't say exo chair specifically. It's like, if your chair has four hooks, here's how to think about it. So both decks are very useful. And if you get those decks, if you ever have access to a full Cadillac or tower, you have a bunch of cards you get to use. You don't have to take a special training for it, because you've already been trained. So you can get our flash cards at opc.me/flashcards. All six decks are out. Oh, you might want to go to the website during the Black Friday, Cyber Monday. Brad Crowell 10:56  For those of you who were unable to hear what she said, you might want to go to the website during the Black Friday, Cyber Monday sale. Just a heads up.Lesley Logan 11:03  Don't miss it, because if you ask us later, no, we're not the we're only doing it for five days.Brad Crowell 11:09  Hey, send in your questions to the pod. Go to beitpod.com/questions where you can leave a win or a question, or you can also text us at 310-905-5534. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into this really interesting conversation we have with Rachel Varga, all about rejuvenation. Brad Crowell 11:27  Welcome back. Let's talk about Rachel Varga. Okay. Rachel is a registered nurse and an aesthetic specialist who's been in the field of non surgical rejuvenation since 2011. She's published research on eye and jawline rejuvenation, teaches doctors and nurses internationally, and now blends her expertise with biohacking to help people age well. Rachel is the founder of the School of Radiance, and also hosts the School of Radiance podcast, where she shares how skincare, lifestyle and self-care can create lasting beauty from the inside out.Lesley Logan 12:01  Yeah, I've been on her pod. You should go listen to our episodes together there, and if you like it, then you have another podcast to listen to. She's, it's, I really enjoy this because, okay, I have been wanting to have someone, an expert like this, on for a while, but I didn't want it to be a vanity, like, I didn't want people to be like, Oh, it's so vain, you know, like so many people are like, I don't know, raw milking it. So they're not going to want to talk about Botox or things like that. And I well, you know, some people get granola and they're like, I gotta not do anything to my body. But also, if something's really, like she said, if something is really bothering you, like specific lines or scars or jowls, addressing it is beneficial, because oftentimes if you feel you look better, you feel better, and if you feel better, you actually just look better, like if you actually feel good about yourself, you walk around taller, you engage with people in a different way. And so it's kind of like a chicken or the egg thing, and I appreciate her approach. If you listen to the episode, it's not like, everyone needs Botox. There's always something wrong with you. No, it's like, okay, what are some of the things you can do that are non surgical, that actually do work? I, I have, I will say you're going to want to listen to her second episode, which we're not going to talk about today, but we talk about a lot of things that are like, a waste of your money and waste your time. She's very, very intelligent and doesn't waste her time. But I do think that what she talked about is people are not viewing rejuvenation as being vain anymore. They're actually seen as a form of self-care. And I do think there's a balance of what can we do as part of our self-care routine that makes us feel better about how we look, so we feel better about how we look.Brad Crowell 13:46  Yeah. That's what I was gonna say, hardcore.Lesley Logan 13:51  Well, I don't know, like, here's the thing, I really appreciate, I forget which actress it was, what's that beautiful woman? Not Diane Lane is beautiful, but she also did one of the Fast and the Furious. She's like a dame, gray hair actress.Brad Crowell 14:06  There were 10 or 11 Fast and the Furious movies. Lesley Logan 14:09  I know the more of the recent of them, and she is like, she also was in like a beautiful bathing suit in the tabloids. And I was like, I want to look like her when I'm when I'm 80. I can't think of it. Everyone's yelling at her in their car right now, but you know who I'm talking about. She talked about how, like, she said, don't like, she's letting wrinkles happen. And I also would like to let those things happen. And there are some things that just bother me, and I don't want them to, and they become a distraction for me, being it till I see it. So I do think that if like how you look is affecting how you're operating your day. It is, there is a point where you do need to actually address, like, what is going on here, because it's becoming an obstacle. I'll look it up while you say what you loved. Brad Crowell 14:52  Yeah. So one thing I thought was important was this conversation of. Lesley Logan 14:58  Helen Mirren. Brad Crowell 14:59  That was really fast. And I'm very impressed. Brad Crowell 15:01  Do you know what I looked up? I said, older actress, stunning, fast and the furious. She's on top of the searches.Brad Crowell 15:12  I went to IMDb and I started with Fast and the Furious. I was like, there's so many actors. Lesley Logan 15:17  You gotta go with my, my way.Brad Crowell 15:23  Yeah, I just, I just thought I wanted to comment about what you had said about what your topic was, that we beat ourselves up over this idea that we're gonna like focusing on how we look is somehow wrong, and I, and I think that.Lesley Logan 15:39  But then also, everything your entire life is based on how you look. You know, like we're told not to focus on how we look. However, especially if you were raised as a woman in the church, how you look could make your brother stumble, so you better figure that out. But then also, you better be sexy for your husband, or he's gonna wander. And then, oh, if you look too old, you're not going to get the job, because they don't want an older woman, like, like, so there's all this stuff about how we're not supposed to care how we look, but actually, everything is about how we look. And if you're a dude, you just get fucking hotter as you get older. And it's really annoying.Brad Crowell 16:14  Well, I love that you took all the words right out of my mouth. So here's what I was going to say, is that I think it's important to that it when we are holding ourselves to this idea that feeling like we want to care about how we look is wrong, somehow. What she mentioned was confidence, and I liked that because I thought, Hey, why do we buy a nice shirt or buy some, you know, dress shoes, you know, for the office, because we like the way that we look in those and it gives us this idea that we got it together. And I don't know why we would think that it's okay to buy a nice blouse or blazer or shoes but not do the same thing for our face or our skincare or our weight or our working out, or whatever.Lesley Logan 17:14  The food we eat or the yeah, yeah, yeah, the things that we do to make ourselves feel good. I agree. I think that makes a lot of sense.Brad Crowell 17:22  Yeah. So, you know, anyway, my point is that it is I think it's okay. I think it's okay. Lesley Logan 17:31  I, here's the thing, I really have come to a place where it's like, if the thing that you do for yourself doesn't affect anyone else negatively, it's none of my fucking business.Brad Crowell 17:43  Okay, here's, here's, let's actually start with, because I'm logical, let's actually start with the definition of vanity. Lesley Logan 17:50  Okay, let's do that. Brad Crowell 17:52  Excessive pride. Well, excessive pride in or admiration of one's own appearance or achievements. Excessive pride, right?Lesley Logan 18:01  So walking around telling everyone I'm so fucking stunning.Brad Crowell 18:02  I'm so amazing. Look how awesome I am. Look how beautiful I am, right? That is vanity, but giving a shit about how you look is not vanity, right? That we've conflated this idea and we beat ourselves up. Lesley Logan 18:17  Brad, you're fucking brilliant. It's like the word selfish, like, how self-care has become selfish care, like the fact that you'd spend any extra amount of time thinking about yourself instead of your children, the people you work for, the people you do things for the people you love. Like, that's selfish. This is amazing. And I do love this because, okay, Amy Cuddy, whose TED Talk is where the title of this podcast came from, and if anyone knows her, I would love that interview. But she talked about how she does study about the power stance, the Wonder Woman stance, when you do it for five minutes, you actually appear and feel more confident in an interview. They did a literal scientific study, and they had people not stand in a power stance and sit slumped for five minutes, bad posture. And then go in, and then they ask them, how confident you feel. They ask the interviewers, how confident did they seem? Did they appear? You figuring out what rejuvenation and as a form of self-care that works for you, which is very different, that works for me, very different than anyone else, that is like staying in the power stance. It's an action. It's something that you're doing so that you can show up as your whole self and give the world like the version of you that that will make an impact. Yeah, that cannot be bad. I'm in. Brad Crowell 18:37  Yeah. And I think that, you know, when we have confidence, obviously it allows us to deliver our, you know, purpose in life better. It makes us enjoy what we're doing more. It definitely just changes the way we show up in our community and the way that we see ourselves. Right? So, you know, and the world sees that too. You know, when we put effort into ourselves, we show the world that we are valuable because we value ourselves. And I think that is also important, is that we that that belief in yourself, right, the knowledge that you are worthy, even though it seems internal, it is very visible to other people. When you know that you belong there to do the thing you know, or you believe you belong there, to do the thing other people perceive that they pick up on that. Lesley Logan 20:25  Well, yeah, and also, like, and just, I'm gonna tell you one of your points, she we're talking about this. We're talking about rejuvenation, way that looks natural and feels good, that builds confidence. We're not talking about like, go overdo it. We know the people who look like they're overdone, you know, like, you know, we're not talking about getting a new face like the Kardashian mom. We're talking about like, just like, and it's we're not talking about doing Botox or or surgery. It can be as simple as, like, massaging your face, or the type that money you spend on the moisturizer that makes you feel good, like, these are, we're talking non surgical approaches.Brad Crowell 21:03  Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I think when you are that, because we think that self-care equals vanity, that's where we're going wrong. But when we, when we can separate the two and understand that vanity is excessive. You know, celebration of your beauty or your achievements, that is obtuse, that is annoying, that is like, you don't want to listen, you don't want to be around somebody like that. We all know people like that. (inaudible)Lesley Logan 21:31  There's the song you're so vain, you probably think the song is about you. That is a definition.Brad Crowell 21:43  But when you care about yourself, you know it's okay to to put yourself first and make that part of your self-care routine and you know. Lesley Logan 21:53  Well, I also think you're I'm not (inaudible) you up. I'm so sorry. This is our ADHD problem. I think if something is keeping you from showing up and making the impact in your world, and it has to do with your looks. It is not vain or selfish to do something about it, if it's if, if that thing is keeping you from actually showing up as your whole self to make the impact you so desire to make, the world is missing out. Brad Crowell 22:18  Yeah. Actually, a great example would be braces, or Invisalign, or, you know, even, like surgical, surgery, surgery on your teeth. Like it comes across as, like a crazy expense sometimes, but, you know, night and day difference we, we've had, I've had a really close friend of mine growing up who had surgery in his 20s, and he smiles now, you know. And I remember seeing the difference in him because he never he was no longer judging himself, you know, (inaudible).Lesley Logan 22:19  I watched something where this girl, every time she'd smile, she or laugh out loud, put her hand in front of her mouth, because she doesn't want people to see her teeth and and then, through this one organization, they fixed them. And no one would say that she's being fucking vain. No one would. And because we're now.Brad Crowell 23:12  I mean that was surgery, that was surgery. This subject, we're not necessarily talking about it, but like Invisalign, or braces (inaudible).Lesley Logan 23:18  If it's going to make you smile a little brighter, going back to World Kindness Day and making people feel seen, I would hate for someone to not get the joy from your smile. When people smile at me, I'm like, Oh, hi. Like it just brightens your day, like it snaps you out of the whirlwind that's in your mind. And I just, I was really excited to have her on because I thought it was a really honest conversation about about inner beauty and what we what would make us feel good. And I just don't think there's anything wrong. And I think it's really important you hear this, there is nothing wrong with doing things for yourself that make you feel beautiful. And if you were ever told that focusing on what makes you feel beautiful is wrong. There's some deconstruction and some, I really, when we took my eyelashes, my fake eyelashes off, it was really hard for me. It was extremely hard. I didn't look the same anymore. I had to do a lot of self-talk, but I went to Sephora, literally the next day, I was like, you have to help me. I look like a molten like a mole rat. And that is an actual thing that exists. And yes, I did look like a mole rat, if you look it up, but I she taught me, okay, the best makeup starts with the best skincare for you, she said to me, and that's what Rachel's also talked about, the non surgical approaches. And then the second thing is, by that girl teaching me a couple tricks with makeup, I could show up and do my tour as my whole self in a non-distracted way. Because I was like, Oh, my God, people are gonna be staring at me. Talk about the braces and the weird things. I have no eyelashes. That is not what people are used to seeing. Okay? So, so I just think that, like, I if it's okay, I believe it, because I felt it. I've been there. I've been there when you're like, Oh my God, my face is numb from the dentist. Like, I don't even want to see me. If things like that are keeping you from showing up on a daily basis, you owe it to yourself and the people that you can impact on this world to find some way to fill that natural confidence by taking care of yourself. So that's what I think.Brad Crowell 25:24  All right, awesome. Well, I think we've, we've talked through that pretty exhaustively. Lesley Logan 25:28  I feel good about it. Brad Crowell 25:29  Yeah, stick around. We'll be right back. We have some more tips from Rachel and the Be It Action Items. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 25:36  Welcome back. Finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Rachel Varga? She said, Hey, high protein and creatine, right? High protein intake, one gram to one and a half grams of protein per pound of body weight. Now, you probably heard Lesley mention this a lot. She definitely is on board with this. She said. Lesley Logan 26:00  It's so hard. Just be kind to yourself. Brad Crowell 26:02  It's hard, but, but, you know, there's, there are ways, and actually, a lot of it had to do with changing the food that we're eating. For example, I had a high protein bagel today, you know. And you know, it was, I don't even know what it was, a lot of protein for a bagel. And so they're, you know, eggs, and all those extra beans.Lesley Logan 26:18  I, we're not sponsored by them. But hi, Owyn, they have a 32 gram protein shake, and it's only what you need. There's nothing weird about it, I'm sure. Like, look, the biohackers would not like that we're talking about processed food, but it takes time to switch your diet around. And if you're trying to do this, it does take time. So pick a meal a day and kind of work your way towards her. But I wanted to say, I fucking love that her, Be It Action Items have nothing to do with like, going to a med spa. Brad Crowell 26:45  Right, to do beauty stuff or whatever. Yeah, I mean, because it's just like your your your Sephora experience, she said the best way to fix your eyelashes is your skincare, right? So the in this case, she's Rachel's talking about high protein and creatine, because when you she started lifting heavy and focusing on high protein, it gave her more inner power activation, and that was great for her skin, right, So that's, that's, that's.Lesley Logan 27:14  And there's tons, ladies who are listening, we have a lot of perimenopausal women. There's a ton of research on doubling up on that creatine.Brad Crowell 27:20  Yeah. And she also talked about collagen, because collagen will also help your skin. If you're watching YouTube, you can laugh along with me.Lesley Logan 27:31  I've been doing collagen since, like, religiously, since 2016 because in 2015 I did a test, and the guy's like, you have no collagen. And then a year later I did the test, he's like, okay, so you you're off the charts in collagen. And I was like, is that a bad thing? Should I, like, slow it down? And he's like, I think you could be okay. And I have not slowed it down.Brad Crowell 27:48  So we've got a call to action for you here if you want to go to theschoolofradiance.com theschoolofradiance.com, you can use a promo code, LesleyLogan15, L-E-S-L-E-Y Logan15 for 15% off one of her membership. She said there's also a free 30-minute biohacking lesson you can get on there that has a checklist, her skincare checklist, and it's available on her site. Lesley Logan 28:11  And also, like, depending on where you live, the seasons change your skincare routine has to as well. Brad Crowell 28:16  Yeah. What about you? Lesley Logan 28:18  Okay, another interesting non-meds related, Be It Action Item, which is just why I love her, right? Like you don't like, it doesn't have to always be like, get this moisturizer. She recommended breath work, specifically during exercise, to keep cortisol down and remain in a parasympathetic rest and digest state, which helps slow aging and collagen loss. So this is what I love, because in the like, people are gonna try to sell you stuff all the time, and this is fucking free. So breathe in for four seconds, hold it for four seconds, exhale for four seconds, and do that four to five times, by the way, it's called Box breathing as well. And she explains that elevated cortisol results in a drop in estrogen. When estrogen falls, collagen, elastin fall too. So you want to breathe, because it's going to help slow your aging down, and that costs $0.Brad Crowell 29:14  Yeah, she said, you two were specifically talking about lifting in the gym. And she said the guys will try to spike their cortisol. And she said, I don't want to do that. Lesley Logan 29:23  Yeah, also, and I know there's and I being a woman today, it's like, what are we listening to? Look, keeping your cortisol down is always going to be a good thing, especially if you're in perimenopause or post it'll help your sleep, which is going to help you age better. But also, when you're doing Pilates, this is something that people struggle with. You got to breathe in and out through your nose, because that keeps you cool. It keeps you calm, it keeps you grounded, keeps that cortisol down, which helps you age slower. I love this. She's coming back because I was like, Oh my God, I didn't even get to all the tools. Like, do I need to buy this? Do you buy this? Do I need to buy this? And she is going to change her life with that. I'll let you know when the episode's coming out, of course, but until next time, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 30:08  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 30:08  Share this with a friend who needs to hear it, leave us a review. Tell Rachel Varga how these tips and tools helped you. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 30:13  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 30:13  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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In this illuminating conversation of Be It Till You See It, aesthetic nurse and biohacker Rachel Varga joins Lesley Logan to discuss how to achieve lasting radiance by aligning health, mindset, and beauty. She shares how lowering inflammation, managing stress, and purifying your environment can help you look and feel your best—proving that confidence and feeling at peace are the real anti-aging secrets.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Rachel's nursing career evolved into a holistic approach to beauty and biohacking.The science behind lowering inflammation to boost vitality and radiance.Why redefining vanity as self-respect empowers confidence and self-care.Everyday habits that support graceful aging through stress management and sleep.How cultivating peace and integrity supports inner and outer radiance.Episode References/Links:The School of Radiance Website - theschoolofradiance.comPromo Code: LesleyLogan15 for 15% off one-on-one sessions, tutorial, and membershipSchool of Radiance Podcast - https://www.theschoolofradiance.com/podcastsInstagram: @RachelVargaOfficial - https://www.instagram.com/rachelvargaofficialGuest Bio:Rachel Varga, BSN, RN, CANS, is a Double Board Certified Aesthetic Nurse Specialist. Since 2011, Rachel has been offering medical aesthetic rejuvenation in the specialty of Oculoplastics and is known for providing a natural and healthy-looking transformation and educating through her show "The School of Radiance" podcast. She has performed over 20,000 rejuvenation procedures and is also a trainer for other practitioners on rejuvenation procedures including medical grade skin care, laser skin rejuvenation, injectables including neuromodulators and dermal fillers, and slowing aging in general. Rachel is passionate about delivering the highest standard of care, with a focus on what the patient's specific rejuvenation goals are, and a tailored approach to suit their needs, values, and lifestyle. She has published multiple research articles on rejuvenation protocols for the eyelids, jawline, and overall skin health transformation. Rachel is known for her gentle touch, natural-looking results, and making her patients feel comfortable, and at ease with her caring bedside manner that originated in pediatric nursing before beginning her career in medical aesthetics in 2011. She will guide you in creating your customized rejuvenation plan and skincare routine to achieve your goals through one-on-one sessions, expert 7-week seasonal skincare tutorials, and year-long membership for the deeper layers of being beautifully radiant at TheSchoolofRadiance.com. Rachel Varga is one of the first to blend Western approaches to skin care and rejuvenation, functional insights, and biohacking optimization strategies. 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And the more radiant we are, the more high vibe we are, the more we can get what we desire out of life, in both our personal and professional lives, and be great people, because our bodies are operating properly.Lesley Logan 0:32  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:11  Hi, Be It babe. Okay, this is gonna be a really fun conversation. I wanted to have this conversation for a while, and it's really like, I'm intrigued by all this, right? I want to, I want to actually look and feel good for as long as possible, but not in like, a crazy, like, change how I look dramatic way, but like, as in a no, this is like, I want to look like me. And so when I met our guest today, because I was on her amazing podcast, Rachel Varga, she's the host of the School of Radiance, and I was like, oh, I vibe with this person. I really like what they're saying. It's intelligent. It's from a place of research and science and methodologies, and she is so knowledgeable about biohacking and things we can do when it comes to med spas and what we're doing with to support ourselves and how we feel and how we look, and then we go on a wide range of topics. We don't hit everything I want to talk about, so I'm going to have to do this again. But I really think you're going to, one, learn a ton and have a lot of permission get granted, because maybe it's not something you have to do to you, maybe it's something you would get to do around you, or maybe it's about changing something in your environment, right? So now I'm going to let Rachel Varga give you all of her amazing wisdom. Lesley Logan 2:26  All right, Be It babe, this conversation is one I've been really wanting to have, but it had to be with a special person, and so I've been waiting the 500 plus episodes to find the person who we can have a conversation about radiance and how we how our how we can age the way we want to, and look good doing it without feeling like we're being vain or going too far. And so Rachel Varga is our guest today. Rachel, can you tell, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Rachel Varga 2:51  Yes, Lesley, so great to be here, and we had a fantastic interview on my show recently, the School of Radiance podcast. And, so technically, I'm a nurse, and I've been an esthetics nurse since 2011 so I've been in the game for the rejuvenation side of things for a while. Been in that game, published research papers. You can look my name up on PubMed, Rachel Varga, you'll see my eye rejuvenation papers, jawline rejuvenation papers. And then I also teach other doctors and nurses internationally how to do rejuvenation from the non surgical side of things that like injectables. And I know we're going to talk a little bit about that, what we can do that's cleaner options, what's actually going to work and give us the results that we desire. And so I love to teach, and I love to talk about what we can actually do at home. So on this podcast, we'll talk about the lifestyle side of things, and kind of delineate what we can do at home and then what's available in the clinic. But I take this approach of longer lasting beauty through biohacking, because when we reduce inflammation and toxins on all fronts, we then set our body up for success, for being our most radiant versions. And the more radiant we are, the more high vibe we are, the more we can get what we desire out of life, in both our personal and professional lives, and be great people, because our bodies are operating properly.Lesley Logan 4:23  I love this because I love that you can they it's almost like a there's a few different prongs. So if you're someone who's like, I don't want to do surgery, I don't want to do the injectables like people start to look like cat ladies at some point. And I'm sure that's not all injectables do that. I'm sure there's a point which one could stop. But the idea that we there's things we could do at home, it sounds why wouldn't you, like, Why? Why wouldn't you want to do something at home? So before we get into that, though, I do want to kind of know, like, did you always want to get into esthetics? Was this something that you could wear, like, interested as a kid? Like, were you doing makeup? Like, how? Like, what was the journey that got you here?Rachel Varga 4:59  Yeah. Okay, well, practically speaking, my mom's an RN, and I saw how hard she worked, but I also saw that it was a great job. It's a great way to be in that nurturing, supportive, healthy role in the family. It's like something happens to the kiddos, like you know what's going on, or your partner or yourself. It's just great knowledge to have from a nursing perspective for yourself and those you love. My father's are carpenter and so I always had this eye for, oh, that bumper is a little not so straight, or that picture is a little canted. So I had this eye for symmetry and proportions from that, and then also the health side of things. But I saw my mother really struggle as a night nurse. And she did night nursing, so shift work, it's just brutal in extended care for her pretty well entire career, she got breast cancer. She was, at one point, weighed 220 pounds. So she was the type of woman, great woman over gave, did the shift work. So I learned early in my career that I didn't want to be that kind of nurse. And did Pediatric Nursing, pediatric ICU care for a couple years. And during that time in my nursing education, I'd had a few rejuvenation procedures myself too, both surgically and non surgically, and to myself, the aftercare information like the pre post care wasn't great, and for me, going through nursing training, I was obviously watching all the vlogs online. There aren't really a lot of professionals actually talking about this stuff, and I think it's kind of interesting, and people want to know how to get the most out of what they're investing in in the clinic, and, of course, at home, and how to recover before and after non surgical or non surgical rejuvenation options. And thought I wanted to be a doctor. So did all the med school prerequisites, chem, Organic Chem, biochem. And while I was doing prerequisites and applying to med school, which I did for one year, I got a job as an esthetics nurse, did my injectable training, started in ocular plastics in 2011 and just loved the field. I loved the pace. The hours were great, and I would get access to anything and everything. Then something happened. I met my good friend Dave Asprey. Actually helped get his face ready for superhuman so when you look at that book cover, that's my work. Oh, what's this biohacking stuff? This is pretty cool. Started to do some of it myself, cold plunging, intermittent fasting, more protein, adding antioxidants, amino acids, all sorts of great stuff that's in the biohacking world, red light therapy. And then I was in two car crashes. I had to really lean into the biohacking and recovery side of things and supplementation so that I wasn't hurting all the time, and so that I would recover faster. And partner has been a pro athlete as well, so very in tune with the athletic recovery side of things too. Then something interesting happened. The better I cared for myself from an inflammation perspective, I didn't need as much rejuvenation. Scars were fading after just a couple of days post breakout, instead of for months, and I'd have to laser that redness away. I didn't need to do neuromodulators every three months, I would actually go anywhere from like, a year to a year and a half in between.Lesley Logan 8:45  For the people who are like, what's a neuromodulator,Rachel Varga 8:49  The brand names that you probably know about are Botox, Xeomin, Dysport, Nuceiva, Jeuveau. There's always new ones growing up. So the technical term for those is neuromodulators. And then I also started to notice, oh, wow, I'm not burning in the sun in 10 minutes anymore. These deoxidants, this reducing inflammation, is actually allowing me to go outside and enjoy my life more. And I as a researcher, put together a paper for the biohacking community a couple years ago. What are some of the biohacks that actually can support slowing aging in sort of like a methodical framework, kind of way, because there's so many bright, shiny objects in the in the biohacking and wellness space, like, what actually should we start with?Lesley Logan 9:42  This is insane. So this journey that you went on, like, first of all, you met the person. Like, yeah, you were like, you just met them. And then you needed what they had. Like, thank goodness you met them, because you put, who knows how long would have taken you to stumble upon biohacking in that way. And then it got you to see how it worked on the things that you already do. I can it's interesting to me because, like, I think some people in your field would be like, what is the need for me if I could just biohack my way to blemish-free skin that can be out in the sun, you know what I mean. But obviously, like, there's, there's kind of a place for everything. You know, there's also like, what works for you and what helps with what you need. And so I love the idea for those at home who are like, well, what are some like, what are like? Maybe they could Google what an antioxidant is. But like, what are some things that they should be thinking about when it comes to inflammation and things that can affect how they look? Because I think sometimes people go, Oh, I'm just older. And we were taught like, Oh, you're 40, so now you're 50. Like, these things happen. But from what I understand in biohacking, you can actually do a whole lot. It's not about the age, it's kind of about what you're eating and what you're doing.Rachel Varga 10:54  Yeah, you could actually test instead of guess what your biological age is. And I do this usually about once a year, and my biological age, last time I tested it was nine years younger than my chronological age. So doing something right. Lesley Logan 11:11  I love that. Rachel Varga 11:14  When I started to speak on the anti aging, the functional, integrative and wellness sides of things, being an aesthetic nurse, like a traditionally trained nurse, and then in the specialty of aesthetic medicine, I was kind of the odd one out, a little bit misunderstood, especially in the rare community that I'm in, people didn't really get it. It's more like a California and Florida kind of thing, where people in there, in those states in particular, really big into anti aging medicine, and so that was a bit tough for me. But you know what, some of us were just pioneers in the space. And Dave is more of a disruptor, and I'm more of like an encourager. If I can do it, you can do it too. Lesley Logan 11:59  Yeah. And I think, like, you know, the I, what a great place where you can go, okay, here are your options. We can do these things, and here's how often you'd have to do them, and we can absolutely do them, or we can do this thing, and then this is how often, or you could also do this at home. And then it would make whatever we're doing here would support that, or it would reduce your need for that, is that what I'm hearing, like, the biohacking, like, really supports what you do?Rachel Varga 12:26  Bingo. So for me to speak on things, because I am a traditionally trained RN, I have to be able to speak on things that are published in the literature. There wasn't really anything, and I knew this worked. I would see it in my before and after photos. See, you know, 70 to 90 year olds looking fantastic, and they barely need anything. They were aging better. So the jawline paper that I wrote, I basically put in that paper an algorithm for rejuvenation, starting with skin care, then getting into maybe at home peels and at home dermarolling, doing some in-clinic lasers for reds, browns and collagen, you know, resurfacing pore size, polishing the skin, and then the non surgical injectables. So say you guys all probably hear the word Botox, so neuromodulators and fillers and then surgery. So to start from a space of least invasive, you know, do some things, see if you're happy with those results, you might not need the surgery, but surgery definitely does have a place, coming from ocular plastic surgery for the eyelids. And so I wrote a paper on that, basically an algorithm do least invasive to most invasive, and then the Oxidative Stress Status and Its Impacts on Skin Aging paper that was more like a framework of what's the lifestyle stuff that we can do to actually clean up and purify our environment by purifying our air, water, lighting, electromagnetics, testing, instead of guessing the foods that we're eating and then getting into detoxing. And when you do all those things, you should actually be able to get better results from your treatments. And if you go on message boards for people that have issues after injectables or lasers, chances are there was a degree of autoimmune conditions running in the background, or their toxic bucket was really full. They had rejuvenation bucket tipped over, and they had a manifestation of some underlying things that were happening. And then also, during the process of writing those papers, I came across some data. This is why it's not a nice to do. It's a need to do, to look after yourself, that autoimmune conditions, or, more precisely, deaths of unknown causes, which I reached back to the source of you know, what does this category actually mean, autoimmune condition or someone passing away before diagnosis, it actually doubled in 2019 compared to the data six years earlier in Canada, this is Canadian information, and then it doubled again in 2021. So autoimmune stuff for skin is like, eczema, psoriasis, those are typically the skin stuff that we see. Lesley Logan 15:25  It's interesting that you brought that up because it is like, I think people are like, there's so many people with autoimmune it's like, well, now that we know what to test for. The thing about tests, that's the thing, when we it was all, there, it has probably been there for a really long time. The doubling in such a short period of time is scary, but also it, you know, if the tests weren't right arranging or the doctors don't know to test for these things. But I love that you brought that. I like how you bring that up. It's like if you had stuff run in the background, if you were already inflamed, and then you do something that can add to that, like, it is just like the needle that broke the haystack. And so then the things get the blame when it's a whole host of things that are going on. And so I think this is really cool. You know it's and I don't want to be ignorant, so I think it's really, to me, what I find interesting is that, like, I would never have associated a biohacker with someone who would also be doing any of these treatments. Like I would, you know what I mean? Like, I think people think you're either nothing goes in your body except for these things, or you're, like, whatever, It's a free rein, I can do whatever I want. And so to find someone who sits in the middle, I actually think it gives people a lot more permission. And I actually one of the things I want to talk with you about is, like, just permission, like, I think a lot of people feel bad or feel embarrassed or feel like they shouldn't talk about that they want to make any changes to how they look, because we do live in a place now where, thankfully, people are more accepting and people have been taught to not hate their bodies like we should love our bodies. In fact, your body is listening to you. So part of biohacking would actually be to not talk about the things you don't like about your body because your body's listening. But how can we think about like is it vain for us to want to want to change things on our face, or to want to look a little younger, to want to look a little fresher? Is that? Is that a bad thing? Like, should we not be wanting to change these things? We just be happy with how we look?Rachel Varga 17:11  I think that there's a similarity here with this concept of imposter syndrome. Everyone who starts to do something new is like, Oh my gosh. I don't know of like, Can I do this? Am I gonna get laughed at? I think it's that's just as common as the shadow side of beauty, which is, is this vain? Am I doing something that's selfish to care for myself? One of the reframes that I love to talk about is self-care, self-love. I get so many sweet downloads when I'm doing my skincare, I'm blow drying my hair, I'm doing my beautification, my makeup, putting on a cute outfit, looking at myself in the mirror, it's like, Oh, wow. I had three hours of sleep last night. How the heck do I look this good? Well, there's some biohacks that I did to hack a bad sleep and why I had a bad sleep, which is hilarious. So we can definitely talk about that. But the vanity component is essentially the shadow side of beauty and radiance at its core. So I love to investigate the psychological, the energetic things behind everything as well, because everything is energy. And we're seeing a shift now, though. In about 2018, a number of my clients started to ask me, Rachel, what can I do for healthier skin I want to improve my skin health. So I really started to notice the shift. And then now fast forward to the year that we are in now, every med spa, well, the ones that are, you know, up with the current times, are doing things like NAD infusions, they're offering weight loss, they're offering hormone support, and all of these different things that we're now seeing a really exciting time in the med spa industry, the functional space, integrative and biohacking space, coming together. It's almost like this bifurcation point a couple years ago, but I did see the writings on the wall back in about 2018 that this was going to happen, and now this is what the most notable med spas in the world are doing, is they're incorporating all these things because people want to go to a one-stop shop and not necessarily just look at rejuvenation as being vain, but a form of self-care. They're doing other things as well that they're investing time and energy in, or they might have a health spending account that makes them feel better, because when you feel better, you look better, and when you look better, you feel better. So what I like to suggest, if someone is really grappling with, okay, money's tight or I feel vain about doing this, feel like that money should go to my kids or whatever. But if something's bothering you for a while, say, for example, lines between the brows, or lines to the forehead, or hooded upper eyelids, lower eye bags, melasma, pigmentation, red acne scars, large pores, acne scarring, losing sharpness to the jaw, lines, jowls, fullness to the neck, the list goes on. But if something is really bothering you and you're looking at yourself in the mirror, be like, I really love to do something about that, because it's the one thing that kind of bugs me. I think that the benefit of knowing that, hey, there are some really great health non surgical, or surgical things that we can do to actually support those things. But my angle is, okay, what's the least toxic thing that we can do to give the best results? What is going to give the most long term benefits? So that's why sometimes surgery, like eyelid surgery, is one of the most common surgeries performed to remove excess eyelid tissue. That's actually probably even going to cost less money than trying to do all these other non surgical things, and you have a longer result. So it just depends on everybody's situation. But the vanity thing is something I think every single person grapples with, if they're completely honest with themselves, and then they do it. They do their rejuvenation, they bump up their at home skincare routine, they purify their environment, like, Oh, I feel better. I'm gonna keep doing this, because it's something I do for myself, kind of like getting your (inaudible) you always feel so much better after you have, you know, fresh highlights or whatever. Lesley Logan 21:36  Yeah, yeah. Well, I think, like, there's a difference between doing something because you think it's going to get you people's reaction from people, and doing something for yourself. You know, I think if you are do making changes to yourself, because for other people, that would be a problem, but if you're doing it for yourself, like you said, you don't like the way your pores are. I have my mom, she has talked about the eyelid surgery, and I saw her recently in person. I was like, Oh, poor thing. I don't know. Can you see? Get like, you know, like, and that's not a vain thing. It's also like a necessity, necessity thing, but also like in being it till you see it, some of these things are taking up so much brain space that they're holding us back from coming out and showing people who we are like, if you're not putting yourself out there because you have a scar or you have you don't like the way something looks, that that does bother me, because it does mean that the world is missing out on what your gift is. You know, there are people that you're the only person who can do what you do, and if you're hiding yourself for whatever reason, then that is a bummer, because those people miss out on it and they end up getting swindled by somebody else. So I, I'm of the place, like, if it's for you and it's going to help you show up as the best version of yourself, like, you know, you really do have to look, look into that. But I also love your approach of, like, what's the least invasive, least toxic, most long lasting. And I think if we, I think if we go with that approach, as opposed to quick fixes, then we all, and that goes for everything, not just even for the things you do with your face.Rachel Varga 23:11  100% Oh, you touched on so many beautiful things. So we're gonna back this, because there's some nuggets here for everybody. What happens when you go into the wild, you know, if you're, if you're anything like me, you're working from home, you're going to the gym, you're going to the grocery store, going to church, you know, some work in social events, but that's kind of what the lifestyle looks like. But when we and sometimes I want speeches, and that's super fun, I get all glammed up when you go out into the wild and you see two kinds of people, you see the one person that I just have my hair and, like, a cute little dancer's button I got my workout outfit on. You would love it. It's, like, very Pilates appropriate. Lesley Logan 23:56  I saw it when you (inaudible) I was like, that's so cute. I need a little shawl for my my one my jumpsuit.Rachel Varga 24:02  Oh and I love my body, and I work hard. I lift weights, work on the flexibility, stability, cardio, strength, all those things. I feel fantastic because it brings me in my body as well. W e're very grounding at the end of the day, when you see that individual that they got a little bit of makeup on, they brush their hair, they don something cute, even if it's a little bun, and they have a smile, and they're bright, and they're connecting. Compared to the other person that's just schlepping it. They got their PJ pants on or their sweat pants, they're not put together at all, and they just look like they legitimately rolled out of bed. It's like, okay, something's going on with that person. Oh, this person's really showing up for themselves. They're, you know, putting effort into their appearance. What that actually communicates when you show the world that you're valuable because you value yourself, that's powerful. And if you're showing the world that you just rolled out of bed, your life's a mess, people aren't actually going to value you in the same way. I know that sounds really brutal, but you will be more valued in your relationships. In the professional space, you'll have better relationships. You'll probably be able to make more money, because there's also research to show that people actually who care for themselves the way that they look, earn higher income. But the cool part here that you touched on for you know, reactions for other people is it for yourself. I've seen that where ladies have come to me and their boyfriends in the waiting room and they say, I want to get my lips done. And their lips are already like fantasy lips, if you know what I mean. And I just say to them, no, that's gonna go. If I do anymore, it's gonna really put your lips out of the ideal ratios that actually creates beautiful lips. So you're not a candidate for this treatment. Obviously, there's some body dysmorphia that can have too. However, when we do rejuvenation in a way that looks natural, feels good for us. You know, the body's just like, yes, I want to do this. But thinking about it for a while, it helps to build confidence. Something very interesting about confidence, actually, is that the more confident we are, the better able we're going to be in showing up and building our community. And community is a deep survival need. We're not meant to go through life on our own. We're not meant to over give. We're meant to be supported and receive from those around us, and obviously have it be reciprocated. But the there's the value component, there's the confidence component, there's the community component as well. So there's a lot of really beautiful things actually, about beauty and what it does to our lives.Lesley Logan 27:00  Yeah, and I do, I find it's like, so I used to work at a studio when I lived in L.A., I'd have to, like, leave the house and obviously, how I run and how I shop at the gym, different things, but anything before 7 a.m. that's what different. But when I would go to my studio, I would get dressed to work, go to work, I would teach the whole thing. When I started working from home, I noticed like, oh, I'm not in front of the camera today, so I would just kind of like, still be in the same clothes I did my walk and my workout in, and I was like, starting to slowly feel down about myself and having to give myself more pep talks. And I was doing my fake eyelashes, and they kept getting bigger and wrong, and I kept giving them feedback. And I was like, I don't really like how this is looking. So then I got rid of the fake eyelashes, and now I'm like, well, now I'm a bald eagle, and now I think I'm over at and and I was like, hold on. I also could learn how to do makeup for my natural lashes, and I could get dressed each day, like, how would if I got dressed each day? And what I realized is, by using the clothes in my closet and getting dressed and having a routine of putting my makeup on and and things like that. All those things actually made me feel better. So that whole little haze that, like cloud that was kind of like following around, kind of like an oppression commercial. I don't know if you havethem in Canada, but we have them here, where they're, like, trying to sell you like this cloud that just like hovers over this girl as she walks around, the cloud's gone. I was like, oh, over time, I slowly became used to not doing these things that felt like a waste of time or like not a big deal who's seeing me, and the more I actually spent time with myself. It's not to go back to the vanity topic, It's not vain. It actually just made it easier for me to show up as myself and put myself out there. Because I wasn't going, Oh God, my hair is a mess. Like, like, I, like, got ready for the day, just like, as if I went out into the world to go to work. And so I would say, like, it's really easy for us to go, oh, the world expects us to look a certain way. And really, I actually think the world is quite obsessed with people who are confidently walking in front of them, people who are confidently walking in a room like it. Actually, I'm always amazed, like the people who are famous or infamous and things like that, like some of them, I would never consider like a natural form of beauty, but people are excited about them because they're so calm they walk in, they have their head held high. And so I think if we just go back to like, what are you doing for yourself to help you show up to be the person you want to be, like, those things can't be wrong.Rachel Varga 29:25  Very well said, the, I love this show so much. I love connecting with you, Lesley, I think you're fantastic. You're hitting the nail on the head of, like, really deep topics around beauty and rejuvenation and not enough people are kind of talking about this stuff, the concept of feeling down and self-talk. Let's break that down for a second. A lot of us say, Oh, my fine lines and wrinkles, or, you know, my elevens, or my acne scars, or from an injury perspective, because a lot of you listening are ahletic and sometimes injuries can happen when you're doing new things and pushing your limits and building your strength and your resilience and your readiness and adaptability and all those good things. So instead of saying my whiplash, I detach from it, and I don't say my I say, oh, you know, I'm experiencing this or, Oh, I have a blemish, but I'm not reinforcing it into my identity, because a lot of people have these things that they reinforce into their identity, and then it's like, stuck in their field, if you will. Now we're gonna go just a little bit woo.Lesley Logan 30:39  Oh, you know, we used to only be a one woo show, and considering where the world is right now, Brad and I have gone two woos. We're woo woo in it.Rachel Varga 30:50  Yeah, very much grounded in the 3d science, I published papers. I just the other day, was teaching 60 doctors in Vancouver. Super fun. I just can't help but notice this group of patients that I observed in my career. This is why I talk about radiance, men and women aged 60 to 90 that had never done any rejuvenation. They would come to see me, either on a video call like this, or in the clinic, and I would look at them and be like, Wow, you look fantastic. Like, yeah, you know a couple of things like, bother me. I'd love to do something about it, but it was just how they carried themselves. So I started to kind of unpack this. What is this? What is this that I'm noticing it's like this inner glow, this inner vibration, and what are the components in their life that are contributing to that, which you can ground to the key determinants of health, which are recognized globally as being important factors to determining how healthy you're probably going to be depending on the environment around you. They had a certain vibe to them. Their skin shown differently. Their voice was different. They were very present. They had a family life, they had a spiritual practice. They had hobbies, they had a community. So I coined this radiance, and then I started to dive into some Ayurvedic texts, and came across the definition of radiance, which I think is one of the best definitions of that word that I've ever come across. It's the electromagnetic projection of all of your body systems. The radiant body is the 10th body, and then we have our body, mind, spirit, energy. There's some other bodies in there, but the radiant body is basically that electromagnetic projection of you and a reflection of how all your operating systems are running into the world. And when you begin to hone and cultivate this radiant energy, it's kind of like you become a queen, and you enter a room and everybody notices you for all the right reasons, you become a magnet. And with that, when you step into that very powerful, radiant, queen, feminine and (inaudible) energy, you also repel vibes of certain people that aren't going to be in your highest it's like you're a magnet, but you're also very attractive.Lesley Logan 33:22  Yeah, just like magnets also repel the other side. Rachel Varga 33:25  Exactly. Yes. So magnetic to the right people, the right situations, the right opportunities, and telling yourself (inaudible) oh, you know, there's great things coming just around the corner that are better than I even imagined. And I say that all the time, and it happens all the time. So this becomes you. You become like this force. And one of the most cool things about this as a woman is you get respected, and you are revered by men, not just idolized for looking a certain way, but actually respected and revered, and this is getting into some of the more powerful layers of beauty and radiance. And what you mentioned with your self talk, you probably felt some guilt and shame, right? And those are the lowest vibrations we can possibly sit in. The highest ones are peace love, joy, then there's pre enlightenment, then there's enlightenment. So peace, love, joy, channel your inner (inaudible) that is actually setting the stage for all of your cells and inner machinery and operating systems and field, the human biofield, is an emerging body of science to shine brighter, to slow aging, to feel better, to look better.Lesley Logan 34:47  I love this, and I really do believe in it, because there was years ago I listened to a podcast where they said your cells are listening to you, and how you talk about yourself is what you produce. So if you, going back to your like, my scars, my this, it's so important that you do, you don't hold on to those things, because the body is listening and like they actually did some scientific studies, multiple ones. One of them was they took these people, they blindfolded them, they set them in a chair. They were in a room where they could hear a fire burning, right? And they could hear this hot and they could hear like this, when you put, like, water goes right, that whole thing. And they're like, okay, we're gonna take this (inaudible) and we're gonna brand you, right? And these people are like, Oh my God, they're telling, they're describing what the branding mark is going to be. All these things. I don't even know how they clear this, because it sounds like trauma and torture and all the things, however they did it. And what they would do is they would like make the sound, and then they touch the person with a pen, a pen, and the person develop the welt in the shape of the description of what the branding was going to be. Right? Like, now, whether it lasts or not, wasn't part of the thing, but like they the body was like, so prepared for what it was told it was going to become. And another doctor was trying to figure out if it was a scraping of the knee or the drain of the knee that actually was healing these knee issues. So of course, he has to take three groups of people, one where nothing happens, one where they scrape and one where they drain, and then compare the three and the people who had nothing they were just put into they were put under anesthesia. They played, they played a video of a knee surgery happening so that they would hear in their subconscious they were sent to do all the same post surgical protocol as everyone else. They had the same results as the people who had had surgery, because they told themselves, I had surgery, my knee is fixed, and their body did these things. And so I became so conscious of like, what are we actually talking to ourselves about? Because before we go into all the things we could do to change our bodies, before we go into the biohacking foods, and then what type of treatments we could do, how you're talking to yourself, is literally free. It's a, it's a, it's a free thing you can change. It costs nothing.Rachel Varga 37:01  when you think of a monk, what are they doing all the time? Lesley Logan 37:03  Oh, we get to see them in Cambodia all the time. They are meditating and they're praying. They give blessings. That's what they're doing, just sitting there meditating.Rachel Varga 37:15  And you said something very profound, giving. Lesley Logan 37:19  Blessings. Rachel Varga 37:23  Who you are, depending on what really your reason is for being here. For mine, it's really to activate and initiate men and women around me to be their best versions. I'm very clear on that. So for me and my presence, that's how I serve. That's how I offer. It's how can we be in this state where we engage with others and we brighten their day, we say something kind to them, the way that we move through life is like an offering and a blessing. We first need to fill our cup first, though, that's very important. One of the things that you can channel next time you're in your Pilates or a heavy lifting situation, I do this all the time at the gym. I actually do breath work because for activity as women, especially if you're around that pre perimenopausal, perimenopausal, menopausal and postmenopausal, the body's going through transmissions, and what breaks down collagen and elastin quickly is elevated cortisol, which results in a drop of estrogen. When estrogen falls, collagen, elastin, fall too the more at peace you are, the more in that parasympathetic state you are, the less you're in the sympathetic state with high cortisol, adrenaline, you're going to age slower. You're going to have a slowness of the collagen elastic breakdown. And you could actually just do things to stimulate it, right? Like good skincare, sunscreen on the high real estate areas, mineral only at home, dermarolling, in clinic, lasers to get that collagen back up. Consuming collagen is also great. 10 to 12 grams a day is what's in the literature to actually create those visible skin changes in a month. But what I do when I work out is something hilarious, and I actually did bench press with the bodybuilder gym (inaudible) crew at the gym. I was included. They respect me. They revere me. They see my dedication and hard work. So, you know, I was right there with them get it spotted and encouraged, and here I am elevating their presence as well. But when I work out, and I was actually sharing this with one of the bodybuilders, because they'll do like smelling salts to get them in the sympathetic state, which could be good for the masculine, but for the feminine, we don't want that. We want to keep that cortisol down, what I do, actually, between sets of working out, is go right into parasympathetic breathing. Breathe in for four seconds, hold it for four seconds, exhale for four seconds. And you can do this, do like four to five cycles of that. You can drop into that at any point during the day when you get some news of a task that you need to do. I run like 13 businesses. So there's always, you know, these kind of small fires, and I have to figure out, like, who to delegate what I need to do, blah, blah, blah. But there's always something. So no matter what, I just always drop into that. Have those dates, have that honey, so I have that glycogen. Take those adaptogens to support the adrenals. Do the self care. But the biggest thing, I think, for beauty and slowing aging is, what do you think creates peace?Lesley Logan 41:05  What do I think creates peace? In someone's life?Rachel Varga 41:07  Yeah, what do you think creates peace in someone's life? Lesley Logan 41:10  Oh, my gosh. Well, I don't, to be honest, my mind is (inaudible) a few places. One, good sleep, that helps with peace. Two, not taking things personally, that could take, I think that could cover a lot of things. Maybe the whole four agreements would create peace and then self love.Rachel Varga 41:29  That's beautiful. What actually builds our confidence when you make a decision and we're happy with those decisions that we're making, or making them out of integrity. People who make really bad decisions, they have to live with guilt and shame, and they have terrible sleep. They're tossing and turning, and they got night sweats. All sorts of stuff goes on in someone's nervous system when they constantly have that guilt and shame, operating in the background. Ask for forgiveness, but move towards operating in integrity in every single thing that you do, you will have more peace because you're making better decisions. I wouldn't I can't picture a monk acting out of integrity, right? That's like against their code. So to have that, I just think it's gorgeous. Not taking things personally is also great. So you're recognizing that not everybody is taking as good care of you. You might have different values or lifestyles or what's important to you. So not taking things personally and just kind of witnessing that everyone's on their own journey, and just let go, but just have that knowing that the decisions you're making are out of integrity, and self love is such a beautiful component to that as well because you're telling your body when you're doing your skincare in the am and pm, you're washing your face, you're putting great things on that aren't toxic, and you're doing a lot of the personal development stuff as well, to be the best human that you can be, to be the best woman partner that success in your career, and just be a light in the world and think that and bring beauty. Literally, I've done this. I've just had a terrible day, something's going on, and I put on a cute outfit, do my hair and makeup, and I go engage with someone. They're like, Wow, you look so pretty today. It was like, it brightens my day. My beauty brightened their day. And then send and receive. I give them a compliment of something that I see is beautiful in them, too.Lesley Logan 43:35  Yeah, oh my gosh. You know, so many good things. And there was like five, five other things I wanted to get to in today's episodes. We're just gonna have to have you back. We're just gonna have to have you back because I was like, really hoping we could talk about, like, is Gua Sha really working? What are the things I should be doing? So we're just gonna have to do this again, and we're gonna take a brief break and find out how people can find you, follow you, work with you. And you already gave us some good stuff, but some Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 43:58  All right, Rachel, where do they hang out? Where do you hang out? Where can people like stalk you in the best way, get more information, work with you, talk with you, where can we send them?Rachel Varga 44:08  Absolutely, I hang out on Instagram. I love to engage with those who are you? They say yes to themselves. They know they're worth it, and they're curious about some of the different options I share a ton of very entertaining education, like, I shared some sleep stuff like, why (inaudible) sleeps because I took creatine too late after my workout. But how did I hack that not so great sleep? I took a little bit more in the next day because it fires up your ATP, anyways, funny stuff like that. As a biohacker and also in the med spa space is over @RachelVargaOfficial, that's my Instagram handle. And then the podcast, really great show, the School of Radiance podcast. And then theschoolofradiance.com is my website, where you can book a one-on-one. You can join my seasonal skin tutorials, where I actually show you how to do Gua Sha, do your skincare, your makeup, your dermarolling peels, retinols, what rejuvenation is great to do that time of year, so basic and advanced stuff over six weeks, great. Not a YouTube tutorial. It's way better. Lesley Logan 45:13  I'm already in. I'm like, hold on, I need to. Rachel Varga 45:15  Super fun, super fun, right? And then the membership is more of that high level. How do we actually activate this radiance and stuff so we can enjoy our lives better and make more money in the process? Those are the two key metrics you're gonna get benefits from.Lesley Logan 45:30  Amazing. You guys, we have a promo code for you in the show notes and everything, so make sure that you check that out. I already have an appointment booked because I am really excited. And it's, again, not because of it's like, oh, I'm trying to be vain. I'm trying to be something that the world wants. No, it's so that when I look in the mirror, I feel awesome about myself, and I can show up more and more and do all the things. And so I'm just so grateful that our paths crossed. You have given us a lot of great tips. Ladies, get on the creatine. Okay, it's really amazing. There's tons of research. Oh yeah, muscles also, just like, apparently, tons of work on the Alzheimer space, which I'm very excited about. Thank God I've been doing creatine for years. But bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps our listeners can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Rachel Varga 46:16  Yeah, the skincare checklist, actually, over at theschoolofradiance.com when you sign up for my newsletter, I have a free 30 minute biohacking lesson too, and use promo code LesleyLogan15 for 15% off of your one-on-one here with m. Creatine, creatine, creatine, yes, high protein, one gram to 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight, huge when I started to lift heavy and do those two things, and keep up with the flexibility, mobility that just gave me more inner power, activation, if you will, great for the skin too, and caring for yourself, not just your skincare, not just your rejuvenation, but purifying your environment, air, water, lighting, electromagnetics, eating the right food, then detoxing is a key part, but it's what we do every single day.Lesley Logan 47:07  I love that you brought those things up, because I do a lot of people go on detox all the time, but they don't fix their don't check their water problem. When I lived in L.A., all the water stuff said the pipes were great. Everything is great. You guys, I had arsenic and cadmium in my system. So how, right? So we had to, like, we lived in a 500 square foot apartment and had, like, a $5,000 water system put in, and yes, I took it with me when we moved. But I think it's really important so that you all can support things. Right? These are things you can do at home, with your for yourself and in your environment to help you feel really good. So I am obsessed with these tips. I really am obsessed with you. I can't wait for more conversations together and how people are going to use these tips in your life. You guys, let us know. Tag Rachel Varga, tag the Be It Pod. Share this with the friend who needs to hear it. Sometimes we have friends who are actually overly picking on themselves, and maybe I actually think the words that we talked about here today can really support that and help them understand like, you know what is needed, what is necessary, what is helpful, and then also, if you're starting to feel a little bit out of it yourself, like I, I'm gonna tell you right now, it's really okay to care about how you want to put your hair or how you want to dress, because those things actually help us show up more in the world. And we're we are allowed to take up space. So Rachel, thank you so, so much. And until next time everyone, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 48:23  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 49:06  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 49:10  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 49:15  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 49:22  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 49:25  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell mark 600 episodes with gratitude, reflection, and a fearless reminder to speak up for what you want. Lesley shares Buddha's timeless wisdom that mirrors the Be It Till You See It mindset and reads listener wins that prove progress comes from small acts of courage. Plus, she opens up about turning fear into confidence when she asks boldly—and how it led to connection, clarity, and peace.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:48  Oh my god, Brad. Brad Crowell 0:49  I cannot even believe this. Lesley Logan 0:50  We're 600. Brad Crowell 0:52  What?Lesley Logan 0:52  Okay, you guys, this is an FYF episode, and we were recording it. I had no idea what number that was, and so we missed it. And that's because we don't really care about being perfect, but we do care about celebrating.Brad Crowell 1:02  I love it. I'm really fired up about this. It is amazing that it's lasted as long as it has.Lesley Logan 1:06  Can you believe it? Like when we first started, I don't think we would have thought, oh, we're gonna, on our 600th episode, we'll rebrand. Brad Crowell 1:12  Yeah. Lesley Logan 1:12  But we are. Brad Crowell 1:13  We are. Lesley Logan 1:14  We have a whole new look. Have you even seen it?Brad Crowell 1:17  No, I literally haven't seen it. From recording this, I have not yet seen it. Lesley Logan 1:20  Okay, well, go take a look. Brad Crowell 1:22  I heard it's cool, though. Lesley Logan 1:22  It's really cool. I really like it. I love to hear if you really like it. And I just want to say, thank you. Brad Crowell 1:27  Yeah, thanks for listening. Lesley Logan 1:29  I mean, the celebration is kind of as big as it's like a part of you, like you're actually part of the whole celebration, because we would not be here if it wasn't for you listening to the show. Brad Crowell 1:38  You're amazing. Lesley Logan 1:39  Thanks so much. And thanks to our amazing team. All right, here's your FYF episode. Lesley Logan 1:43  Hi, Be It babe. Happy November 7th. Oh my gosh. I can't believe we're here. This is so fun. My in -aws are visiting, so like we're doing vacation and family visiting, and they've never seen our house in Vegas. So it's really, really exciting. But before we get into my wins, we have to talk about something that's inspiring, and we talk about your wins, and then we'll have a little affirmation, and we will go kick ass for the weekend, because being it till you see it is about honoring what you did do and celebrating that so it's easier for you to see things are moving forward, and not in a masculine action cup of a thing, but just like you are becoming more of the person that you want to be inside and out every single day, right? It's hard, it's hard to be it till you see it in a world like it is today. But 17 powerful sentences by Buddha that will change how you view the world. So I don't know if we'll read all 17, but I'm going to read several of them. The link is in the show notes if you want more. But, the mind is everything, what you think you become. I mean, that's so be it till you see it. The mind is everything, what you think you become. The root of suffering is attachment. And I think that's really interesting. When we are thinking about goals we want to achieve, I miss most of the goals that I have in my life, but so if I was attached to the goal, then I would have no win. But you've heard us talk about how we've like, celebrated acting as if we could win, like being the team, doing all the effort that could have had the win happen, had everything else worked out. So I agree with that one. If you deeply observe everything is your teacher. I love this one because as a Pilates instructor, it's really easy for people to talk, versus just be in observation. And they're like, oh my god, if I'm too quiet too long, then people think I'm not teaching. No. Make sure they know what you're looking at. But like, be in observation, because then their body teaches you what it needs. Three things cannot be long hidden, the sun, the moon and the truth. Oh, I want to believe that one so bad right now. If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path. Fuck yes, I love that. Do not dwell on the past. Do not dream of the future. Concentrate the mind on the present movement. Well, that is Pilates, right there. I said I wasn't gonna read them all, but I'm just loving them all. There's no path to happiness. Happiness is the path. Before you speak, let your words pass through three gates. Is it true? Is it necessary? Is it kind? I mean that something we can all live by. Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else. You are the one who gets burned. Change is never painful, only the resistance to change is painful. Oh, I like that being it till you see it, it's not painful. The resistance will suck. What you think you become, what you feel you attract, what you imagine you create. Oh my gosh. Well, I'll leave the rest for you. But you guys these, I mean, I might have to bring the other ones back for another day. These are so great. I might just keep them for affirmations at the end of an episode on another day. I really love sharing things. Because I hope you know, when I find these things, I save them, I'm like, I'm thinking of you, like, I'm truly thinking of you. Lesley Logan 5:06  Okay, so I got a bunch of wins that you all sent me on Instagram, so I'm gonna read some of them for you. How about it's time for your wins, and these are quickies, so let's do a few. All right, KelliePilates, I hit my goal of four to six miles walking five days in a row. Holy freaking moly, KelliePilates, four to six miles, that's a long time to walk. I do about four-ish every day, because I do two in the morning and two-ish at night. But like, it's obviously like I have a dog that makes it easier, but that's amazing. Five days in a row. What a goal. Pilateswithsarahk, completed my observation hours for my Pilates teacher training program and went to PT Pilates and a dog walk today. Do you see? Okay, okay, I love Sarah so much because she's like, today I was able to go to PT Pilates and a dog walk. Winning. Like y'all just completing the task on your schedule is a win. Okay? Okay. All right. And then this is my neighbor, tanamarieshow, I'm gonna share it because it made me laugh. So every Friday I ask you, like, what are your wins drop them below, right? And I was walking through the casino to go to the gym this morning, and so you could hear the music playing in the casino on the story. And so here it is. My win today. Is that love potion number nine was a soundtrack to your walk to the gym. She literally was singing it all day long in her head or out loud at her house. I love that so much. What a win that you could just, like, get a good song stuck in your head, and it just makes your day. So you can send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions so you could ask questions, you can share wins, and then I will shout them out. And we all need to remember our wins like it's really fun for me to go back sometimes I'm telling you wins that happened in the past, because it just wasn't time to tell you, and it's like, oh yeah, I did that. I slayed that. So my win today, okay, so the win is my in-laws are visiting, okay? And I know, like, for some people that may be like, that's a win? It's a win, okay? So the last time they visited was the weekend we got married. They, you know, when I met them, I think they had mentioned that they were going to come visit, you know. And then when we got engaged, we knew the dates that they're visiting. We got engaged in May of 2015 and then we knew they were visiting October of 2015 so when Brad and I Brad, I was gonna marry him, and we were driving home from our camp, he's like, well, when you want to marry and I was like, you think your parents will come again, and they might not know this. And so if they're listening, I'm sorry, but like, this is the truth. And he's like, I don't know. And I was like, well then, I guess we're getting married in October. So they haven't been back to visit. Now, to their defense, there was a, there was a pandemic in there, and then they had an older dog, and they had to move whatever, blah, blah, but, they had kept saying they're gonna visit. We've lived in Vegas for over five years, and they kept saying they'll visit and I wanted them to visit. I want them to see the house we live. And I want to see them more. I like them. So I am saying it's a win, because I was a dog with a bone with like, when are you coming? And Brad was doing that and together and with a little passive well, Brad said it was not passive aggressive. It was extremely aggressive. I literally on a FaceTime was like, I just don't think you like me. And then they bought a plane ticket. And so what I'm going to say is the win is, if you want something to happen, do not stop. Just keep going. And if you're not getting what you want, don't be afraid to just be plain and simple and ask, am I not getting this because you don't like me or like, what is like, I promise you, you'll get the right answer, right? You're gonna get a great answer. And if the answer was, yeah, we don't like you, well then I just save myself trips at Christmas time. Like, no big deal, you know? I mean, like, I'm sure that would hurt my feelings, but like, the reality is, there's nothing is ever as bad as you think. So, my win is my in laws are visiting, and our team knew in enough advance that Brad could take almost the entire time off with his family to be here, and I only have a little bit of work to do, so I get to be with them, so we're like, on vacation in our own home, which is like the greatest thing in the world, right? Lesley Logan 9:03  Okay, time for a little affirmation for you for the weekend. When I forgive myself, I free myself. When I forgive myself, I free myself. When I forgive myself, I free myself. Babe, what do you need to forgive yourself from? What's going on in your life that you're like just playing over and over and you're having a broken record like you should have done better. Just forgive yourself. You free yourself. Have an amazing day. Lesley Logan 9:29  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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In this Be It Till You See It recap, Lesley and Brad reflect on Danielle Droitsch's journey from environmental law to leadership coaching and the mindset shifts that helped her uncover her real strengths. They share how Danielle's simple but powerful approach reframes fulfillment, challenges perfectionism, and inspires action through alignment. Tune in to explore how small, intentional changes can help you lead and live with more clarity.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:What it means to uncover your true superpower and use it to create impact.How following your energy reveals where you're most aligned and fulfilled.Why you only need 20% of your week focused on what energizes you to feel more balanced.How confidence grows by acting, reflecting, correcting, and continuing forward.Episode References/Links:OPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourPilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsTime For Well-Being Website - https://www.time4wellbeing.comStop Second Guessing Your Next Career Move (Free Training) - https://exclusive.time4wellbeing.comDanielle Droitsch on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielledroitschCareer Clarity Journey: Define Your Career Path - https://mailchi.mp/7b47af821797/3jwkmtvr4yEpisode 27: Kareen Walsh - https://beitpod.com/ep27Episode 397: Kareen Walsh - https://beitpod.com/ep397 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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I love that. Your innate ability to create impact. You guys, if you aren't hearing a theme about today, it is, are you using your inner compass? Are you taking time to understand yourself? Are you talking yourself up? Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:55  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the flourishing convo I have with Danielle Droitsch in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now and go back and listen to that one, and then come back and join us. She's a fucking badass.Brad Crowell 1:13  She's pretty amazing. I really enjoyed that conversation. Lesley Logan 1:15  I mean, I don't even know how, she's been listening to our pod for a while. Then she pitched herself. We talked to her. You came up and talked to her. I want to be friends with her. I wish she lived closer. She's doing great work. And also, like, I don't even know how she did what she did for a living, because, like, as we talked about in the podcast, you're an environmental attorney, which means you're constantly fighting for the environment, and the environment is constantly getting hotter. Brad Crowell 1:38  I didn't know she was an environmental attorney. Lesley Logan 1:38  I'm pretty sure. Brad Crowell 1:38  No, she just described her work as an attorney, but it's possible you guys have that you talked to her beforehand. Lesley Logan 1:50  Yeah, no, she was an environment policy world attorney, like she was a fucking badass in DC. And I remember talking to her offline, like, Oh my God. So every day you're trying to say, the Earth is hot. I'm fighting for the earth. And every day they're like, you know, like, it's just, I don't know, like, that would be a hard that'd be a long hard, but we need people like her in this world. Brad Crowell 2:13  Well, she quit, so.Lesley Logan 2:17  She still fights for it. She still does her she still does her work. She didn't quit. Brad, what makes it sound like she gave up? She did not, you know it.Brad Crowell 2:31  No, she has moved on to bigger and better task. Lesley Logan 2:33  She had to leave DC for other reasons, and it's pretty hard to fight for the environment on a world level outside of DC. So anyways, she's still badass. Brad Crowell 2:43  Yeah. Actually, she said she's she's bringing a little bit of liberal vibes to Salt Lake City, so. Lesley Logan 2:49  We love that. You know, it's really because we have a friend who's a federal defense attorney, and I, like, think about her going to work every day, right? And, like, the federal defense attorneys, like, what's the average win? It's like 2% or something like that. And she's like 4% and that's like, fucking badass, right? And you're just like, and she's like, fighting. Brad Crowell 3:11  I think she had six. Lesley Logan 3:05  I think she had six, you're right. Yeah, she got, like, defense attorney of the year. Hi, Amelia. Anyways, she like, I think about people like that, and Danielle and like these other people like, talk about having to figure out a different way of understanding how to celebrate your wins, because, like, it could take years to move, to get a date, for something to be heard. Years, and we're over here being it until we see it, going, oh, that thing didn't happen yesterday. I had to wait six months.Brad Crowell 3:35  Yeah, it's true. I mean, especially with environmental law. I mean, you could be working on something for, you know, five to 10 years before it actually comes together, so.Lesley Logan 3:43  Yeah, well, we'll get into her in a second. Hold on. Just so you're clear, I actually have no idea what day Brad chooses until we open up the script, unless I choose a day. And so I have no idea what I'm about to read. And I feel like it's gonna be weird, because today is November 6th 2025 and it's Marooned Without A Compass Day, which would, is the story of my life, I think I would be marooned without a compass for sure. If I had my phone, and it was working, we'd be okay, but truth be told, I don't have a charger ever on me, which means my compass would be leaving us quickly. This day is celebrated annually to put a spotlight on the direction of our lives or the lack of it. Oh, well, that's interesting. On this day, we ask ourselves the hard question, where is my life going? Am I happy? In a rather literal sense, maroon means being trapped alone in a place, yeah. But in a mindful sense, it describes the ecstatic gloom and thank you, Brad for highlighting. I see ecstatic gloom is a paradoxical or oxymoronic phrase that describes the feeling that being simultaneously overwhelmed with happiness and sadness is not a standard English idiom, but a descriptive pairing of two contradictory emotions, wonderful. I feel like ecstatic gloom is how I live every day in this administration. That comes with being lost in our life.Brad Crowell 5:04  So ecstatic gloom. So in a rather little literal sense, marooned means being trapped alone in a place, but in a mindful sense, that describes the ecstatic gloom that comes from being lost in our own life. Lives, right? So. Lesley Logan 5:07  Well, this is people who are not being it until we see it, Brad. Brad Crowell 5:11  That's what I'm saying. Lesley Logan 5:13  Our listeners do not mean marooned without a compass. Brad Crowell 5:21  That's why today is exactly the right day to celebrate. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Today is all about climbing up from the rock bottom of our lives and becoming our own compass. But that's what we do here every single day at the Be It Pod. So, you know, I thought this was a great day, because what this actually really made me think about was the reset button that Covid was, you know.Lesley Logan 5:47  Yeah if people took advantage of it, which I feel like.Brad Crowell 5:49  I mean, whether or not you took advantage of it, it became a very real it was a mirror to our own lives. Each and every one of us had this, this really, I'm sure we all had the internal conversation, this ecstatic gloom of like, oh, this is what my life is. Is this what I want my life to be? (inaudible)Lesley Logan 5:49  And oh, my God, I get to lay on the couch. That's the ecstatic part. You have to have ecstatic part of the gloom.Brad Crowell 6:13  Yeah. I mean, I don't, I don't know how many people like I think the I think there was this weird perception that we can learn another language, but that never happened for us. Lesley Logan 6:21  People did make sourdough, Brad, not us, we weren't those people. Brad Crowell 6:25  We were not those people, but people did make sourdough. Lesley Logan 6:28  Our dog got walked fucking 12 fucking miles a day. That's right.Brad Crowell 6:33  But, but I, you know, I think that, you know, we're already five years past Covid, and I think this is a good time to check in and be like, Hey, I had this realization back then. You know, I made changes in my life, the changes that I made. Am I happy with them still? So, yeah. So today is Marooned Without A Compass Day. Lesley Logan 6:55  Yeah, but you don't have to go on an island and get a volleyball and name it Wilson. You can just use Hey, I just studied the Hermit card today. That was my hermit and my Tarot reading, because my new hobby, okay, and it's about taking time to be alone and do some self-reflection and some inner like looking in your inner wisdom. Brad Crowell 7:13  How poignant. Lesley Logan 7:14  How poignant. But not well, because this is on November 6th, and I'm doing it today, but it is poignant that we're recording this today, and one of the things you have to ask yourself is, like, what, what does like self-reflection look like to you? How do you understand what your inner guidance is? And like, I really do think that a lot of us are very busy, and even some of us are really good at time by ourselves and even time with our self-care. But how often are we actually using our inner wisdom versus our outer wisdom? And this is something I work with, like, eLevate members when they're like, Okay, so what next? And I'm like, You got to go inside and, like, juice out what you learned already. Brad Crowell 7:52  Gotta go inside. Lesley Logan 7:53  Anyways. Well, that's cool. Like it. I like a good compass. I don't know how to use one, but I think about it all the time. Brad Crowell 8:01  It's okay. Lesley Logan 8:03  Don't download the free compass on your phone, because there is already a compass on your phone. Brad Crowell 8:08  Yeah, there's already a compass. You don't need to get another app. Lesley Logan 8:12  You actually, that's and that is also poignant, you already have a compass. It's already inside you. You guys.Brad Crowell 8:17  We're gonna blast through these, because there's a whole list now. So we're gonna move real fast, are you ready? Lesley Logan 8:22  I am ready. Brad Crowell 8:23  Here's what's happening in November. OPC is gonna have a Black Friday sale. Black Friday Cyber Monday sale is only gonna happen during the actual holiday weekend. We're not doing it before or after. Lesley Logan 8:32  No, we're not those weirdos who start on November 1st. Brad Crowell 8:34  Okay, so that's November. December, we're gonna be on the road doing our Winter Tour. Which tickets are already on sale. In fact, hopefully the tickets are sold out at this point. HoweverLesley Logan 8:43  Let me tell you, we are recording this before they go on sale, and people have already bought tickets. I'm not sure how, but they did. So that's how quick the tickets go. Brad Crowell 8:50  If you are trying to find out more about that, go to opc.me/tour, opc.me/tour. Lesley Logan 8:57  Just, can we go back to November? I just want to be very specific, because I don't think it was very specific. We are only doing a Black Friday, Cyber Monday for OPC. So if you are, we're excited for a Profitable Pilates discount. We are not doing that. We will have more information. In fact, if you were on our email list, you would already know this and have more information. But we are.Brad Crowell 9:15  Cool. So the next thing on our list is, in December, we're going to have a Profitable Pilates sale. And that's a secret that we're giving to you here on the pod. Y'all listeners, if you ever wanted to try Agency out for, you know, a short time. Lesley Logan 9:29  Like a little mini. Brad Crowell 9:33  Like, a little month. Lesley Logan 9:36  Not a month, but a little mini. Brad Crowell 9:38  No, I think it's gonna be a month of Agency. Lesley Logan 9:35  Oh, we're doing something fun. Brad Crowell 9:36  Yeah, we're doing something new and fun. We're trying out Agency, so. Lesley Logan 9:39  I know, you guys, I do know about this, and I forgot. Brad Crowell 9:42  While we're not doing a Black Friday, Cyber Monday for Profitable Pilates, we're going to give you all the opportunity to hop in for a brief time, to get to know us, to see, kick the tires as it were. But stay tuned for the end of December, after Christmas, before the new year. Okay. Lesley Logan 9:57  Oh, guys, there's so much more ready. Can I take over? January, my birthday month, you're welcome to send gifts. Pilates Journal Expo in Huntington Beach. Go to xxLL.co/pilatesjournal, I am teaching some great workshops, a world premiere of a workshop, by the way, why your clients don't get it? I'm super excited about that and some other good stuff. And then also, in January, you want to make sure you're already on the waitlist. So don't get on the waitlist in January, go on the waitlist now for Cambodia, because in January is the early bird discount, and only those on the waitlist get that invite. In February, the month of love.Brad Crowell 10:29  Wait. Go to crowsnestretreats.com to get yourself on the waitlist.Lesley Logan 10:33  Thank God for Brad. Okay, February, Agency Mini is happening in February, so you want to get on the waitlist for that. Do you hear how we have waitlist? Why do you have waitlists? Because you get all the good stuff, including somehow people buying tickets early for the tour. So prfit.biz/mini. That's profit without the O dot biz slash mini. It's three days of epicness for your business. I promise you it will light a fire on your ass. You will not feel marooned without a compass. That is for fucking sure. Brad Crowell 10:59  That's for sure. Lesley Logan 11:00  And then in March, we are in Poland at the Contrology Pilates conference with Karen Frischmann on all the Contrology equipment. It's gonna be so fun. That's xxLL.co/poland also in March, we're in Brussels at Els Studio. It's really amazing with Karen Frischmann and, Brad, did I tell you, Ignacio is gonna be there. Brad Crowell 11:00  Oh, I thought it was Miguel. Lesley Logan 11:02  No, that's for something else I'm doing. No, Ignacio. Brad Crowell 11:15  That's so great. Lesley Logan 11:15  I know I'm so excited. I found out when.Brad Crowell 11:15  I saw some photos, but I. Lesley Logan 11:15  Yeah, I know I'm so excited. It's a Vintage and Friends Program at Els Studio in Brussels. We are teaching different workshops in Poland and Brussels, so you can actually go to both, or you can pick which weekend you want, but it's Karen and I, and Ignacio is only in Poland, and Brad's coming along. xxLL.co/brussels, and then in April, P.O.T. London. Okay, we're, that's a lot, guys,Brad Crowell 11:59  That's a whole lot. Lesley Logan 12:02  We're not doing anything else the rest of the year, all right, before. Brad Crowell 12:11  That's not true at all. Lesley Logan 12:02  That's not true at all. But we're, well, we're not doing a lot of international stuff besides the retreat. Anyways, let's get into the question. We have to talk about Danielle still. What's the question? Brad Crowell 12:12  Let's do it. All right. So this is regarding Swan Dive on the Wunda Chair @DeniseBraunStargazer on YouTube asks, What spring tension would you recommend for this movement tips for swan dive on the Wunda Chair on an Exo chair. So an EXO ChairLesley Logan 12:27  So, an EXO chair is still a Wunda chair. Here, it's, I appreciate that it has its own name, because it is different than a traditional Wunda Chair. But the thing that makes it different is the angle of the pedal, the weight of the chair. I'm sure Ken will tell me a bunch of other things that are different. And also, but to the eye and to the use, and also, the cactus thing on the back has four springs. But they have other things that have four four hooks, I should say, two springs, four hooks. So if you're using my flash cards, you'll see that there's a how to use this deck card, and that card actually will tell you that on a chair that has four hooks, so that'd be an Exo chair or anything else that has four hooks. I ignore the fourth hook on an Exo chair unless you absolutely need it. And the person who edits our flash cards actually only has an Exo chair, so she edited these cards with the Exo chair in mind, so without seeing you do The Swan, my guess is you should start with one spring on a two. So the cactus on an Exo chair has numbers one spring on the two. Now that being said, you could be fun sized and you need a one. You could be in a more of a body abundance or chest abundance bodies. You have a little bit more weight going on the pedal. So then you might need a three. You might be super advanced and only need a one. You might be a beginner and need a three. So the thing about the Wunda Chair that people don't understand this goes with EXO Chair as well, is that the springs are like pirate rules guidelines get to choose them, do you remember what was the line in the Pirate movie? Their pirate rules are just like thoughts, things to do. You know the line of the movie. Brad Crowell 14:07  What are you talking about? Lesley Logan 14:08  Johnny Depp's movie of the Pirates. They're like guidelines. Everyone is knows what I'm talking about. if they watched this movie, I'm gonna look it up later. Anyways, on the Chair. So another example on a Wunda Chair is on the flash cards. I say that a pull up is often done on a one, one spring on a one and one spring on a three. That would be (inaudible).Brad Crowell 14:30  Okay it's about the pirate rules, they'e more like guidelines. Lesley Logan 14:31  Correct. That's how the Wunda Chair.Brad Crowell 14:31  Parlay, I think it's parlay. Lesley Logan 14:33  Parlay, parlay. So that's exactly how a Wunda Chair works in an Exo chair. So if we ignore the fourth hook on the Exo chair, then you have a one, two and a three, or what we'll often say in classical Pilates, a top and a bottom. One is a bottom and a three is a top, and then a middle spring is a two. So if the traditional parlay on a pull up is a top and a bottom, so a Wunda, three on an Exo chair, that would be the guideline. However, right now I'm doing pull up on a one top. That's pretty impressive, Brad, you should be impressed. It's impressive.Brad Crowell 15:08  I'm so impressed right now, it's one on top. Lesley Logan 15:11  And then the other thing to go off of, guys is, is the spring working with you, meaning the spring should never be pushing you around, nor you bossing it around. It's your dance partner. So today it might be a two. Tomorrow might be a three. I know, this is annoying because you just want to know, but that means you're trying to be a perfectionist and not someone who is using their inner compass. That's all I have to say about that. All right, if you have questions, send them to beitpod.com/questions or you can text us at 310-905-5534, if it's international, you gotta do a plus one. All right, Brad, let's talk about Danielle. Brad Crowell 15:44  Or just use the website. Go to beitpod.com/questions. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into all this amazing stuff we learned from Danielle Droitsch. Brad Crowell 15:55  All right, let's talk about Danielle Droitsch. Danielle spent decades as a lawyer in the environmental policy world. Oh, that's where we learned it, leading teams and. Lesley Logan 16:05  Leaving it. Leaving it. Brad Crowell 16:07  Leading teams and directing big projects. But after 25 years, she hit a wall and realized the traditional path of titles and skills was not bringing her fulfillment. That turning point led her into coaching, where she now helps mid to senior leaders uncover their superpowers, the natural strengths that create meaning, energy and impact. Instead of piling on more certifications or chasing someone else's version of success, she shows people how to tap into what already is inside of them. Lesley Logan 16:35  Sounds like a lot of our listeners need to hear that because I remember Erika Quest and I did a whole wealthy mindset weekend about like imposter syndrome. And one of the things, sign of you imposter syndrome is that you continually acquire more certifications. And look, I think Danielle would agree with me, learning is cool. You got to keep learning. But if you keep thinking that the next certification is going to make you happy, that is the wrong motivation. So she defined superpowers as your innate ability to create impact. I love that. Your innate ability to create impact. You guys, if you aren't hearing a theme about today, it is, are you using your inner compass? Are you taking time to understand yourself? Are you talking yourself up? She states that these are often hidden to you, and unless you've gone through the exercise of actually figuring out your superpowers, you do not likely know them. This is so true. I think when we coach people, the often thing is like, oh, my god, that's amazing, right? We talk about you're the only person who can do what you do the way you do it. And people like, it's come so easy to me, it's like, yeah, it comes not easy to everyone else, like, no one else gets it. And we do need a mirror. We need some way. We need a Danielle to tell us, like, oh, this is the thing that you do really well. Also it's often the thing that people keep asking you questions about, which is why I should go into being a skincare influencer.Brad Crowell 18:00  The thing that I thought was really neat about her talking about your innate abilities is she said people will often describe their quote, unquote superpowers to her, and she would disagree with them, right? So they're, they're like, you know, I'm really good at I don't know whatever organizing or they think it always revolves around work. I think that's ultimately what her point was, that they always apply it around work. And she's saying that's not necessarily the case. For example, for her, she said, of course, I was a competent attorney, but what I was really doing around the office was making sure that everybody was feeling part of the team, feeling included, and being, you know, like, encouraging and uplifting. And she said, Actually, I never pegged that as my superpower until way after I was always just, like, actually, she said she literally thought it was her weakness. I'm being too kind. I'm so kind. I need to be less kind. I need to be more more, ruthless, you know. And she said that's because I was applying my kindness to my execution of my job. But I was, I was imagining that that's a weakness, when really it was my strength, you know. And so it was really, it was really interesting. And she said they're often hidden to you and but she's she did talk a lot about energy and what, what makes you, what feeds you, what lights you up.Lesley Logan 19:26  She said a way to figure it out is you need to follow the energy, because when engaging activities align with what your superpowers, the time flies by. So episode 400 Your Genius Zone. Alternatively, tasks that are draining to you indicate a lack of alignment. If we go back to Kareen Walsh and her, like, Drain Joy list, right? Like so and I think what happens is we're all like, Oh my God, I need to get better at this. Like, I would like, often if you have like, I need to be more detailed, and I need to work on being more detailed. But being more detailed was, like, nailed on a chalkboard because I'm like, well, how much more detailed do I need to be? Like, this seems quite obvious to me. No, I'm just not a detailed person, period. Guess why? Everyone on the team has detailed in their fucking strengths? Because I don't. I don't have it. That was my elbow. If you heard that on the podcast. Anyways, it's fine, don't worry. Didn't hit a funny bone. But I just really like what she said about that. I think it's a great way to think about things. And I also love that she shared what she thought, that she thought her strength was a weakness, like I think, I think that's very relatable. What did you love?Brad Crowell 20:31  Just for those of you who are wondering, Kareen's episode was number 27 and she had a follow up episode, which was episode 397, so. Lesley Logan 20:42  Whoa, already that many episodes behind? (inaudible) I feel like that just happened. Okay. Well, here we are. You know what? I'm clearly in my my fucking like. Brad Crowell 20:56  You're detailing it away here, babe. Lesley Logan 20:58  No, I'm not detailing anymore, because we added those FYFs, so I don't know what the numbers are anyway, but I just want to say I'm clearly following my energy, because time is flying by. Brad Crowell 21:07  Flying by. What I really loved is when she was talking about, we have this. I mean, all right, y'all have heard me talk about strengths finders and CliftonStrengths and all that stuff like, for years. Lesley Logan 21:20  For years. Brad Crowell 21:21  For years. But she said we have this societally reinforced tendency to focus on our weaknesses. Lesley Logan 21:29  Oh, my whole, my ex's biggest thing, and we talked about this on the podcast that we used to do about dating, my ex's biggest thing is, like, you're not this, you're not this, you're not this. And I'm like, okay, I got to be one of those things. And no, no one liked me for those things. So here we are.Brad Crowell 21:46  Yeah, also, that's so annoying. I mean, you know, like, I think about it. And she was laughing because she said, we have kids. And the kids, you know, if they came home from school with a D, I would be like, you need to be doing better, right? Even if they even if they were like, well, that's not my strength, she still would say, no, you need to do better. Because I think that there's a time and a place for in in the typical world of learning. The way that we educate people here in the United States, you know, it's based on test results. And now that may be changing over time, but our generation that was all that mattered was the grade at the end of it. So if you didn't get a grade, then you did not pass, right? And so this pass-fail concept, you know, it drives us to thinking that that applies in life, right? It applies at our job, it applies in our personal lives. And that's not actually the way that it functions in the rest of the world, education is different than the rest of the world, right? And so what we do, though, is, because that's how we were taught, we take that and we apply it. And so we think that we need to be better. We just need to be better at all the things, even if that's not the thing we should be focusing on. Lesley Logan 22:54  All the things. All the time. Brad Crowell 22:54  Right? And so what do we do? We get in our job, and we're like, wow, I'm really not good at numbers. I guess I need to be better at numbers. So I'll go take a course at numbers, and then you end up hating it, and you're like, oh, I hate everything I'm doing now because I just have to do numbers, you know? And instead, if we were focusing or leaning into our strengths, and this is what Danielle was saying, you know, it will, it'll change our attitude around our it'll change our our vigor, our excitement, our our mindset completely around the thing that we're doing, and probably give us a whole lot more joy. She advised paying attention to what energizes you, right? And you know, there are cases where you have to, you know, do something that you don't want to do, but eventually you want to outsource those kinds of things, you know? And we've talke about. Lesley Logan 23:40  Also, we've done this on the retreat, if you want to know why you should come on the retreat, sometimes people are doing things that they think they have to do. Brad Crowell 23:49  That's, yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Lesley Logan 23:52  And like you and and outsourcing, like people like outsourcing can be expensive. Sometimes you can just delete it. You don't even have to do it. We live in a world with some amazing technology, robots, subscriptions, like you. If you hate the grocery store, you can put things on auto ship. You just can.Brad Crowell 24:10  Yeah, that's, that's exactly, that's exactly right. Like, what if you hate grocery shopping? Great. Put it on repeat. You don't have to actually go do any of that. You know, the way that we live today, it's amazing. But anyway, you know, she said, what energizes you often correlates with the things that you're really good at, and you know it gives you joy. And you know that will change your excitement about life. You know, around the horn, so.Lesley Logan 24:38  So in Pilates, Jay always told us, like, whatever you don't like, you have to do twice, because like your body, your body needs it. This is very different than like, how you do work and and your strengths, right? So when it comes to like, balancing your balances. And today, this is, I don't know if that has anything to do with this episode, but I want to share this with you. Okay, so today we had to do. frog in in class, frog, which is your fucking favorite, and I hate everything everything about it. I hate everything about it. And I don't think we were in frog one minute, but it felt like 17 years. But when we were in pigeon, which probably is only one minute, if I just was like, I think we're in pigeon, for like, three minutes, it went by so it just flew by, because I love pigeon so much, and I just like, I'm like, pigeon feels so good in my body, but frog doesn't feel good at all. And if I could avoid, if I was in charge, we would never frog.Brad Crowell 25:37  We would never frog. If Lesley was in charge we would never frog. Lesley Logan 25:41  But I did tell Anthony, I said, I said, you know how we don't like what we need? And he said, yeah, I'm like, I really hate that. Anyways, you got to (inaudible) energizes you, because what doesn't energize me is frog and yoga. Brad Crowell 26:00  Well, maybe in your body, it's kind of like educating. You need to be balancing things out, or your body will break. Lesley Logan 26:05  Yeah, I don't think you should. Here's the thing, because there's a woman named Joanna who I'm trying to get on the pod guys, I really am. She's got the Unlearn IG and we're close. We got close. We got we're getting closer. Stay tuned on that. But she said in her TED talk, she said, like, kids should fail at things because they need to learn how to fail, right? Like, on a low level thing, however, like, there's a difference between not trying and like not understanding and like not being a skill. And I do agree, like, we don't want kids to not know how to balance their budget, so like, you got to learn how to add and subtract. But like, also, I think what happens is we put up, like you said already, we put this pressure you that has to be your focus, as opposed to like, just get like, decent at it, and that way you can enjoy the English class that you love, or the Shakespeare class that you love, or whatever it is. Yeah, I'm in. It makes sense in my brain, Brad.Brad Crowell 27:05  Great, I love it. Okay, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into those Be It Actions that we got from Danielle Droitsch. Brad Crowell 27:05  All right, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Danielle Droitsch? I'm gonna jump in right away. She emphasized that you don't need your entire day to be quote, unquote fulfilling. Lesley Logan 27:27  I agree. Brad Crowell 27:28  This is interesting, right? You don't need your entire day to be fulfilling. Even a relatively small portion dedicated to your strengths can significantly increase your job satisfaction. What was really interesting is she is backing this up with statistics. It wasn't just like this, this like thing that she's winging it here. She said, hey, observe for the last for at least one week, observe what activities give you energy. Aim to dedicate at least 20% of your day or your week to these energizing superpowers. Act these superpower activities to significantly boost fulfillment. So. Lesley Logan 28:03  2% of your day is 30 minutes. What's 20% of your day? How many hours? How many?Brad Crowell 28:08  Well, we're hold on 20 so 20% of eight hours would be one and a half hours. So if you were like in the zone as it were, for an hour and a half.Lesley Logan 28:20  You're in your superpower for an hour and a half a day. Brad Crowell 28:23  A day. Lesley Logan 28:23  But you don't have to do it all at once. You could do it, but. Brad Crowell 28:26  No, but probably, if you're like, if time has disappeared, you've cranked through an hour and a half.Lesley Logan 28:31  And some of your strength. Yeah, yeah. It's probably true. But also, just for my perfectionist listening, it's okay. It's gonna probably be okay if it's 30 minutes in the morning, 30 minutes in the afternoon, 30.Brad Crowell 28:40  It might be, it might be teaching time for you, because that's when things like, you know, go and that's okay, and that's good, yeah, you know, like when I was working for somebody else. And even now, what I often like to do is I sit down for, you know, a work block in my head. I'm like, okay, this will be my morning work block before I get up and go to lunch or whatever. And I usually try to give myself, like a three hour, like two to three hour like hard work block. And my hope is that in that time I do hit the zone, I'm in that zone, you know. And if I can do two a day of these work blocks, I have had an effective day. Now, what often happens for me is I'll do probably one in the late morning, and then I'll do another one at like, nine o'clock at night,you know or.Brad Crowell 28:40  You feel like you're in your strength to Danielle's point, not just like those. You feel like you're.Brad Crowell 28:57  Well, usually when you're in the zone, as it were. Lesley Logan 28:57  Time is just flying by. Brad Crowell 28:57  Yeah, you're doing you're using your strength, because time is going and you're not realizing it, and you know it's okay. You're, you know, you're, you're effectively using your superpower.Brad Crowell 28:57  When I'm doing Pilates, time flies by. Oh, my God, it flies by. I looked at the clock. It was like 44 minutes. I was like, whoa, where did the hour ago? Brad Crowell 29:49  You're just gonna do Pilates all day, every day?Lesley Logan 29:50  Apparently, only do an hour and a half, then I'd like, I'm gonna significantly save my life. I'm just saying. Anyway, mine.Brad Crowell 29:58  I don't think that's what I was saying, but we'll go with it.Lesley Logan 30:00  That's my takeaway, because she said, just follow your energy. That's where your superpower is lived. Brad Crowell 30:01  We're not talking about work. We're not talking about play, but. Lesley Logan 30:09  My job is Pilates. Brad Crowell 30:11  Yeah, but the point is teaching. That's not talking about doing.Lesley Logan 30:16  I understand, I understand. I understand. Brad Crowell 30:18  Okay, just making sure that we're clear. Lesley Logan 30:20  We're clear. I am going to spend more time with myself. She explained that confidence also doesn't come from faking it. Duh. That's why we call it the Be It Till You See It podcast. That's why she's on. That's why she's on. But in activating what is true about you, and it's not built through the mindset, rather, is built through action and failure and success and getting right back up. So you're gonna you're gonna fail, you're gonna reflect, you're gonna correct, and you're gonna continue. That's right to do, and you're gonna get better at it. You don't have to do it perfectly the first time. Brad Crowell 30:52  Yeah, you do not. Lesley Logan 30:53  So follow your energy. And if you're like, oh, that was the wrong energy, great. You now, now tomorrow, you won't follow that one. You have your new inner compass that's gonna tell you the right direction. I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 31:03  Well before we sign off, I actually just got off a coaching call with a client, and we were talking about rolling out a program, and she said, I just don't think I have she said, what lights me up is educating educators. So she likes to teach teachers. We're talking about Pilates here. And she said, I have my own clients, and I do really enjoy teaching them, but what really lights me up is teaching teachers. She said, the problem I have is that I I can't stop teaching to take on more educating teachers. And she said she's feeling really stuck. And what she said in her like offhand, she was like, and to do like, you know, I got to roll it out, and it's got to be perfect, and I got to do this thing, and I got to do that. And I was like, hold up. Hold up. You know and we had a conversation about this idea of introducing a new product or introducing a new service, and it having to be perfect. I said it has taken us, for our retreats, for example, the very first retreat, I worked on it for a year, I put my my heart and soul into organizing this thing, right. And I was like, we got this and we went and we executed it. And afterwards, we were like, we already have things we want to change. In fact, we did not really totally lock in the flow of events, the schedule of this retreat for like, 10 retreats. It was maybe after the eighth or 10th retreat where we were, like, we're done swapping days around. We've decided these are the days of things running. These are when lunches should be. These are the activity blocks. This is the free time blocks, like we. Lesley Logan 32:42  They were, by the way, they're all amazing. We just, we. Brad Crowell 32:44  That's not, not, not what I'm saying. Each experience was different, but afterwards, we were like, we want to make another change. We want to make another change. We we were all really tired after this one experience because we pushed it too hard. Okay, how do we tweak it? Lesley Logan 32:58  I also got rid of February because we realized we just love October.Brad Crowell 33:00  Whatever the point is, we, it wasn't until us, having done the experience, like, almost 10 times, that we were like, oh my God, it's amazing. We have it dialed in, right? So the point is, no perfectionism. Perfection is not real. It's never going to be real. It will never be perfect. We will always have something that we want to adjust after the fact.Lesley Logan 33:22  Yes, always. That's why, in the show, we say, take messy action. Make messy action. Wow, guys, it is late for us on this recording date. So I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 33:32  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 33:33  We love you. Use your inner compass. Go follow the energy. Tell Danielle how you did it. Reach out to her. She's got some great stuff going on and share this with a friend who needs to hear it, the friend who's like focusing on all the shit that drives them crazy and drains them. Oh my God, that's annoying to be around. Brad Crowell 33:49  Send them this episode. Lesley Logan 33:51  Yes, they'll find out now why you did it. 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Executive leadership coach and former environmental lawyer Danielle Droitsch spent decades chasing titles before realizing fulfillment comes from what energizes you most—helping others reach their potential. In this episode, she and Lesley explore how identifying your superpowers can reignite passion in your current role without a career overhaul. Discover why tracking energy leads to clarity, how to “job craft” for more joy and impact, and why action—not overthinking—is the real confidence builder.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Danielle's career pivot revealed her true superpowers.How to spot your superpowers by tracking what energizes you.Why most people mistake learned skills for natural strengths.How the 20% rule can transform job satisfaction and focus.What happens when you overuse your strengths and feel drained.Why “job crafting” lets you reshape your role without quitting your job.Episode References/Links:Time For Well-Being Website - https://www.time4wellbeing.comCareer Clarity Journey: Define Your Career Path - https://mailchi.mp/7b47af821797/3jwkmtvr4yStop Second Guessing Your Next Career Move (Free Training) - https://exclusive.time4wellbeing.comDanielle Droitsch on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielledroitschThe Big Leap by Gay Hendricks - https://a.co/d/8qEawaVBright Side Up by Amy Spencer - https://a.co/d/c5gcIbRGuest Bio:Danielle Droitsch is an executive leadership and career clarity coach with 30 years of experience in managing, directing, and leading. She is a trained lawyer who spent several decades working in the environmental law and policy space (and continues that work) while focusing most of her time on helping mid- to senior-level professionals level up so they can love their work and create positive impact wherever they go. Danielle works with people who want to love their work and feel passionate and driven by what they do but don't believe they are on the right path yet. Her approach centers on uncovering and discovering each person's superpowers and strengths. She believes we all focus too much on our skills and knowledge and forget that the secret sauce to life and fulfillment lies in our talents. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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And chances are that the things that energize you are actually the things you're really good at, and that's where your actual career growth happens. So there's a correlation between things that bring you energy, so you feel more fulfilled at work, and it happens to be the places where you are that's your superpowers. Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:07  All right, Be It babe. This is great, this interview, this episode, this whole thing has me lit up. And also, like afterwards, our guest today and I were just chatting, and I, she is just such a bright light and such as her superpower comes through this whole episode, and I can say that having talked to her before this episode, after this episode, and so we're actually talking about that. And I think it's really interesting, some of you might be like, oh, I don't have any superpowers, we talked about that too. We also talked about how you can start to find it, and how the ease of leaning into that can actually change your life, and it changed Danielle's life. So Danielle Droitsch is our guest today. She's an executive coach. She all she used to be an environmental lawyer, and so I'm just like putting that out there, because I think it's so interesting how we can so easily put ourselves in a box or in a track and think that we can't change it's too late for us. We just got to push through. No. The answer is no. There's support out there for you. There's help out there, and there's free resources for you. So here is Danielle Droitsch. Lesley Logan 2:09  All right, Be It babe. This is really fun. I recently got to meet our guest today, and I was so excited talking to her, and then Brad got involved, and we just started chatting about life. And you know, it's going to be a great guest, if like, you can be fast friends. So, Danielle Droitsch, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Danielle Droitsch 2:24  Hello. I'm so excited to chat with you today. So my name is Danielle Droitsch. I am Zooming in from Salt Lake City, Utah, but from the Washington, DC area. And I am an executive and leadership coach, and I'm all about superpowers. So I'm excited to dive in with you about that today.Lesley Logan 2:43  Oh my gosh, I love it. And like, what a big transition, like DC to Salt Lake. No offense to Salt Lake. It's so beautiful. But like lots of people to spread out, not so many people.Danielle Droitsch 2:55  It was quite it was quite a transition. I'm here to support my aging parents, but yeah, so like, parts of DC I'm happy to leave behind, and very love the outdoors here. And you know, we are part of a small enclave of progressive people that are, you know, trying to do good in the world. Lesley Logan 3:15  I love it. I love it so much. Okay, so you said you're an executive coach and you are a big fan of superpowers. Is this what you went to school for? Like, is this something we can get a degree in? How do we get here?Danielle Droitsch 3:28  No, I totally, like, it was just such a, so I'm basically trained as a lawyer. So I went and had many years of doing what I thought I should do, what success I thought looked like did what my parents thought I should do. And I mean, I still love that I did part of that journey. But what happened was, I was 25 years into my career, working at a major organization, I was a manager, and I just had a wall, and that's when I had this big transformation of, well, if this is it, if this is my career, then, hmm, I don't know. This doesn't quite feel like it. That's not what it was I had aspired to. I was really looking to feel fulfilled. And so I went on this long journey, we could talk about it, but a journey where I eventually figured out that I was not putting my superpowers to work at all, and it wasn't until I figured them out that I figured out that my pathway, that's not true for everyone, but my pathway was not to be a manager and a lawyer and all of that. It was a completely different pathway, but I never would have known it until I figured out my secret sauce.Lesley Logan 4:44  Oh my gosh. I think, like so many of us, can resonate, you know, there's a certain there's a certain group of, especially women, who are, like, definitely told, like, do all these things, check all these boxes, and then you will feel fulfilled. And then we check all the boxes, and we're like, exhausted, check. Fulfilled, what does that mean?Danielle Droitsch 5:05  What does that even mean? Exactly. It's like, it sounds like a great word, but that's the thing you could and then you spend time searching and searching and searching, and we kind of look in all the wrong places. We look on LinkedIn, like, what did that person do? What did my neighbor do? Maybe I need to travel more, maybe I need more money, maybe I need whatever, you know, and we just, we kind of keep trying all these different things on I did, I mean, I was all over the map for years, like I was like, okay, maybe I won't work on this issue. I'll work on that issue. Or maybe I should do this, you know, role at my organization. Or, you know, there were certain things I tried that really, really worked. Meditation was something I tried, and it's been in my life ever since, exercise, same. But there's other things I tried that were like, absolutely no go's. And I remember talking to you and Brad about this, but a lot of what I was trying was like, around mission, like, purpose. And I was like, oh, I should volunteer here, and I should do that. And I actually figured out that spending time on passion wasn't the answer. I'm not at all about, let's not do passionate things. But it, you know, fast forward, it took me, like, three years to figure it out. I felt like, oh my God, like, how many, how much time is this gonna take? And I finally figured out that the answer was had to do with what I was naturally good at. And that's what I mean when I say superpower.Lesley Logan 6:30  Okay, thank you for defining that. Because I actually think that, like, think we even talked about this, but like, I sometimes think that, like, figuring out your purpose or your passion is like, such a heavy lift. It's like, because it kind of feels like there's no going back, like, once I figured this out, that's it, you know, and then you're like, but I haven't even tried trampoline yet. I don't know. It almost, I think some people have a hard time because it could feel limiting, like, once you figured out, also, there's so much pressure, and then, and then what? And then it has to make me money, which I disagree with. I don't think it really does, but I really I want to just go back to like, what you're naturally good at. This, this is something that I think is really hard for people to recognize, because we think it comes so easy to us. So why would it even be worthy? Why would it even be worthwhile? Why would it be valuable?Danielle Droitsch 7:19  Yes, oh my gosh, you just sort of nailed it. And this is, this is when I work with my clients. It's like the, one of the first things I work with my clients on, regardless of what problem or issue or challenge they have, is we start with, where are your superpowers? And that's because they don't know.Lesley Logan 7:40  Yes (inaudible) I already have 10 listeners going, I don't have any superpowers. I was gifted. None of those. My sister has them all.Danielle Droitsch 7:50  My sister would say that she would be like, I have no superpowers. And I've been spent I've spent all these years saying, yes, you do, but it is so natural. They are so natural, they're so innate, they are hidden to you. So if there's one thing that people are listening to right now, I can promise you that you actually unless you've gone through the exercise of actually figuring out your superpowers, you do not likely know them. And I'm telling this to the people who are like, oh, I know my strengths, and they'll say things like, I'm strategic (inaudible) and I'm a great communicator, and I'm like, that's, I mean, that's, that's like a that's like a tiny, tiny, tiny, little bit of a strength. It's really about your innate ability to create impact, and it doesn't have to do with a skill that's different. A skill is learned, like trampoline. You know, you can learn, you can learn word processing, and you can learn, you know, how to put out a podcast, and you can learn lots of like project management. I'm sure people on this call could say, oh, yeah, I can do all those things. That's not your secret sauce. Your secret sauce is in how you create impact in the world, and I didn't know it, and it was only in my 40s that I was actually able to figure out, oh my gosh, like I have been all wrong. I've been focused all this time on my skills and my knowledge, and thought that's how we're success, not saying you don't need skills and knowledge. I mean, for sure, but my fulfillment, my growth, my career directory, my clarity about who I am as a person, everything kind of comes back to that, and it takes a little bit of work, but you can figure it out. And I promise you, that's where you start to feel the energy that helps you feel aligned.Lesley Logan 9:37  Okay, I'm really in because, like so at this household, we're big fans of like string finders. We make all of our anybody we're gonna hire, we want to know what they're like, naturally inclined to do because I'm not going to put someone who is not detail oriented on on my on my assistant team. I am not detail oriented. Everyone who works with me needs to figure it out. But I also agree that, like some of those things that were strong at work are not necessarily things that we were innately born with. We kind of, like, learned them, skilled them over time, and, like, kind of really lean into those things. I also think that a lot of people busy themselves with all the things they're not good at, so they get the feedback at work that they're not a great communicator, and they take all these communicating classes, and they're like, working on these week that that's gonna make you feel so far away from your superpower. Because, like, at least, at least going into the strength skills you have, at least can feel good, at least feel accomplished, but maybe not fulfilled. So I guess, can we talk about, like, how we figure it out? I mean, obviously we need you, but like, can we talk about, like, a little bit of, like, what are some signs we have a superpower, or that we're working with it, or working what do we got?Danielle Droitsch 10:49  Yeah, it is, I mean, and, you know, I definitely encourage taking things like strengths assessments, because they'll just give you some bread crumbs. It doesn't say how you specifically are good, because these assessments can only take it so far, but it gives you some indications. And I did want to, like, quickly jump on this whole idea of weaknesses, because we are trained from like, itty bitty to focus on our weaknesses. Like the minute you come home with a C or even a D on your report card. Your parents are like, on you, they're like, you gotta move it up. You gotta move it up. And we're even doing that to our own kids. Like, now, I've kind of been reprogrammed for my own kid. It's, it's fine. We all when you're learning in school, it's good to build that basic skills. But when you're getting to, you know, your career, and especially in your middle or later in your career, you kind of have already have a lot of skills and knowledge. And so we have a lot of people who are like, oh, I got to figure this out and taking courses. And, you know, I don't, I don't disparage that. I'm all the time like, sure, constantly grow, but your actual growth edge, in terms of your full potential, whether you're thinking personally or you're thinking professionally, is not found in fixing weaknesses, period. We know this from the research. So what we want to do is we want to lean into a strength, and so the strength is not a skill. So I'll use myself as an example. I had a lot of skills in the legal space, in the policy space, and I would try to learn and take some continuing education. And I prided myself on, oh, I knew the latest and whatever is going on the law, and people would give me some feedback on that. So I think, oh, that's what I needed to do. But what was I doing around the office. I had a team. I would meet with them, I would learn about their lives. I cared about their growth. I spent time thinking, okay, how can we make this person better at what they do? And I never gave credence to that part of my role. I was just so focused on more knowledge and more information, and really all around me, I had been the person who actually is really good at helping another person in my office and eventually in my coaching business, help them actually really cultivate their own potential, and that's through conversation and through encouragement and through a whole bunch of like stuff that I would have ever given any sort of like value to I was like, doesn't everybody do that? No, not everybody (inaudible).Lesley Logan 13:30  Doesn't everybody get to know people? Doesn't ever, no, people don't, actually. You're right, I know, but to the point it's something so natural to you. Of course, I want to get to know this person. Of course, I want to hear what their goals are. Of course, wouldn't that be the thing a team leader does is, like, figure out how to help them out. Oh, this is so cool, this is so great.Danielle Droitsch 13:41  Yeah, so you don't so I didn't know that. I was like, literally, I mean, I was always helping my friends out, helping my family out, helping my colleagues out, and I was obsessed with becoming a better, whatever knowledge person in the legal space. And I wasn't really growing in that space. I was okay, but I wasn't extraordinary. And I remember there was a there was a time later in my early my coaching career, where somebody came to me and they after a coaching session, and they were like, you're amazing. You're so good at what you do. I had never heard that kind of feedback when I was in my profession. Never. No one ever came to me at work and said, You are the most amazing lawyer. I was like, you know, got some good reviews, but like, my when I noticed that actually I was I had leaned in to this part of me that I had kind of treated as not very valuable. I was like, Oh, you're just miss relationship person. Well, guess what? That's it. It's relationships, it's cultivation, it's all of that stuff. And so then suddenly I get the feedback that's where your superpower is. So it does take a little bit of time to figure out it's a great practice. And the key way to know your strengths is when you feel energy, you need to follow the energy. Anytime I ever, you know, connected with someone and sort of help them out. I was getting energy from that when I was trying to figure out a legal issue, I wasn't it wasn't even draining me. It was just bah, that's it. So you that's the place where you need to go. Is the energy that is a clue to your superpowers. And it's not just relationship strengths. There's all these different kind of strengths, but at the end of the day, it's when you feel energy and when you notice that you lose time. Lesley Logan 15:31  Yeah, I agree with that. In Gay Hendricks' book, there's a chapter on the big leap. And I remember reading the book going this chapter makes no sense. Why is this chapter in this book. Like, why is there a whole chapter on Einstein Time and Newtonian time? Like, why is this here? And it took me, like, the fifth read. I was like, going through it, and I was like, oh, my god, this is what the book's all about. And the idea is, like, when we are really in the thing that we are meant to do that, like, we're just, it's just innately part of us. You can bend time. Time can expand. You can get so much out of it. You you can get lost in time. Time flies by. It's not like, my god, it's been seven minutes, okay, we're still here, you know, like, it's this whole it's kind of amazing. And so I think that's what a great sign everyone can take away is just to start tracking, like, what part of my day do I feel more energized, or the time flew by? Like, what was I doing? Just, just being an observer in your life. You don't even have to, like, do more than that, I would assume right now. Danielle Droitsch 16:30  Yes, that's it. You just, you just nailed one of the first exercises that I do with my clients is journal, if you can, for like, a week, even better, longer, but just write down and what people, when my clients come back to me and say, I did this, there's usually, and I'm there, there's usually a, you know? Oh, I thought I hated all meetings, which many of us do, like we're just meeting down, right? We're just so tired (inaudible).Lesley Logan 16:56  I work from home, and somehow I'm in meetings all day. Danielle Droitsch 16:58  So it's like I know that some of your listeners are like, yes, this is my debate in my existence. Like, I'm just sitting on meetings. But not all meetings are created equal, right? So what we want to do is sort of like, which makes sometimes you're in a meeting, you're having a strategic conversation with someone, and you're kind of really, you know, getting your brain active. You're thinking problem solving, and that conversation was pretty cool. And you're like, ooh, that goes into we call the lifts and the drains. You have a lift another call. You're like, going through a to do list, figuring out project management. Maybe that's a drain. You're like, I am so tired of going through the project management plan. And then there's other activities, which might be neutral, it's fine like it doesn't. But what we want, and this is the key thing, is the researchers who have kind of studied all of this stuff around fulfillment and engagement at work, if you can get to at least 20% of your day to be in that sort of energy zone, then you're what you're actually able to move the needle considerably on fulfillment. So you don't need for every single hour of your day. Lesley Logan 18:11  Okay, well, that's mind-blowing, because I think that's the other thing, is that we think that, like, the whole day should be in fulfillment. I should just be in my strengths the whole day. I don't, you know like, and the truth is, is that I've even like thought, like, am I, am I, I like, created this whole thing that I love so much. And again, I'm in these meetings, like, did I create a disaster that I have to live in? But actually, like, if 20% if you're, if I spend 20% of my day in my superpower. Then even if the other 80% is not in, I'm still moving the needle forward towards towards fulfillment. I love that. That is so great.Danielle Droitsch 18:48  Yes, it is. And this is what you do. You start with just noticing. A lot of us don't notice. I mean, we're just kind of barreling through a life. And a lot of what I know you talk about Lesley all the time is just waking up to your life. You just got to wake up. You got to just start noticing. And that's kind of key to this whole exercise that I am talking about here, is you cannot just wake up and do your to do list and go through your meetings and then hope and pray that maybe things start to get more fulfilling. You have to start to notice, like, okay, that was draining. That was you don't have to, like, be judgy about it. You don't have to be like, Oh my gosh, I hate my job. You don't have to be like that. You can be like, okay, I'm going to take some time objectively and look, because sometimes people come to me, they're like, I hate my job. And then they realize there's one part of their job that they hate and there's another part of their job they actually really enjoy. They're just not paying a whole lot of attention to it. And they could magnify the part of the job they love, they may not be able to get rid of the part of the job they hate. Let's all be honest, like there's parts that we I don't love. I don't love administration of my business, you know, calendaring, it just drives me crazy, right? So we just have to kind of look for those things that we're able to magnify, that the things that bring us energy, and that is usually the first step to the creating, the creation of more fulfilling work. And what I mean by magnifying is more time, maybe, or just more attention in that space. And what start people have noticed, you know, getting back to the research, is that their actual levels of fulfillment, engagement go up in their jobs. And it doesn't matter what kind of job it can be the most restrictive job out there, and it still creates more energy, if you focus on the 20%. Lesley Logan 20:37  Okay, this is, I do think this is great, because I think it's so easy for us to go, oh my gosh, I'm going to work and I'm stressed out. So work stresses me out. So we just have to, like, create a reason. And really what we're not exploring is like, actually, where my I face a wall at work, and actually, when I have this, when I'm in these meetings, I actually light up because, oh, I'm facing a window. So maybe I just need to change, ask for a change and view of my desk, or maybe I work in that meeting room as much as I possibly can, you know, like different things like that, because sometimes we're just it's all or nothing. It's an all or nothing mentality that so many of us are raised to have. If it's not perfect, it's not good, if everything isn't rosy and unicorns, then it's the wrong path. Like, if you have one door closed, then you're on the wrong path. Like, but I, Danielle, you're giving us so much permission, because first, we're just observing, and I think that's really hard for the perfectionist and overachievers listening, but my dears, like in just observation mode of how your day is going and where your energy is ebbing and flowing, and then it's trying to magnify where the energy flow happened, and then seeing what's going on, because maybe we don't have to quit the job. You know, like, I read this one book a long time ago. Think it was called, like, [Bright] Side Up or something like that. I remember the author's name, name is Amy Spencer, and there's a whole chapter on, like, parking the car or draw like, or driving away, right? But not idling. And sometimes we, like, have, like, think we have to, just like, get rid of the whole job, but, oh, it actually pays all these things I want, so I'll just kind of deal with it when what you're saying is like, well, what if we can magnify that? And that magnification might actually lead to another role, or it might lead to a whole other career. You might actually end up like you did, switching because you leaned in so much. But you don't have to know right away.Danielle Droitsch 22:19  No, and in fact, I would say a lot of people, we all fall into this trap, too, everyone. We all fall into it. But the trap is I will finally be happy when, dot, dot, dot.Lesley Logan 22:32  That's why this podcast exists, for that win. Stop doing the I will finally be happy when.Danielle Droitsch 22:37  Yeah, it's like we've got, and this happens with jobs all the time. I mean, people have most I mean most of the American workforce, 70% of the global workforce, are not happy in their roles. That's incredible. It is a staggering and very unsatisfying statistic. And that's not just pandemic. That is we have a workplace that is so different than our, whateve,r grandfather's or our parents from the 50s, 60s and 70s. So we're, you know, things are broken. I'm, I'll be the first one to say we don't have a great workplace for our people. But the thing I will say right after that is, you have the power, you have the flexibility to actually empower yourself to make that career actually work for you, and the way you do that is first by noticing what energizes you. And it could be something as simple as where you sit. It could be, I really like that person at work, and I'm going to spend more time with them. It could be, I really like this project and I'm gonna spend more time on it. There's a lot of different ways that you can do that, but that is called job crafting. That's the official term. And then you can, you know, whatever you can do to minimize the stuff that's draining you, but you're basically paying attention to what energizes you, and chances are that the things that energize you are actually the things you're really good at, and that's where your actual career growth happens. So there's a correlation between things that bring you energy, so you feel more fulfilled at work, and it happens to be the places where you are that's your superpowers. And then what happens is your job crafting, and you're not maybe you would need to change your job at some point. But you're not waiting. You're not waiting for some big change to happen, because, frankly, you're gonna find drains, lifts and drains in every job. It doesn't matter.Lesley Logan 24:32  Yeah, oh yeah, guys, no. I mean, even I have so many people who are like, I just want to work for myself. And I'm like, working for yourself. Is it is not like, like, I have a girlfriend who's like, hey, you want to do a pool day, and I'm like, oh, no, I'm working today. Like, I would love to do a pool day, but like, I also have a job that I have to do with a schedule, you know, so, like, I absolutely am unemployable. It's clear I've been asked to quit, but people like me, and they're like, we don't want to fire you, but you're not actually doing the job we want. I'm like, no, you're correct. I job-crafted myself out of a job, is what I did. But I think, like, it's, you know, we like to think the grass is greener, and it's just, it's not. But the people I've seen who who work at other places, who are have have really created a life that they're fulfilled, or like that just seems to be enjoyable and have a level of happiness. They are the ones leaning into their superpowers. I have, one of my best friends. You know, she'd been frustrated in her job for a long time, and she said, I just told my team, I'm no longer doing these things for you. You are capable of doing these things. Here's where I come in for your job. And she basically changed what her job is even though, because she couldn't change her job, like, she's like, I really can't go anywhere else, and I really can't change these things. I'm gonna do these things here. And she's having a really great time. Is it perfect? No, still have the same job, yes, but she's doing the things that she's like, I'm really, I'm really good at these things. You can't take these things away from me. Like, this is what I'm the strongest at, and I what I love, what you're saying is we're not waiting. You are more control of how fulfilled you can be than you think, and jobs are going to suck in a lot of places. But if you are aware of how you are in your superpower, you can really create your own path. Danielle Droitsch 26:15  Yes, and I mean, we have, if you are a so called white collar worker, your ability to craft your job, as in, make shifts and changes to how you deploy your work. It doesn't mean you're you're saying I'm not going to do my basic job responsibilities, but there's just tremendous flexibility in how we conduct ourselves. So what your friend did was exactly right. There are, there are things I'm not going to do anymore. I'm not going to do that. You can do that. We're going to get it done, but it's not going to be necessarily on my plate. The kinds of things people are doing are they start to change the number of meetings or the nature of the meetings that they're having. If you're a one to one person, more one to one and less group, if you don't have enough time on your calendar to strategize you really enjoy, sort of getting into the data, then you need to like craft time around having that space and time, because you're going to actually bring a better strategic mind, because you're not sitting in meetings all day. There's lots of different ways you can job craft, but it starts with you. It starts with you knowing where am I energized? What do I enjoy? Where am I drained? What's neutral? And then you just move the needle. And you might be at you might say, Hey, I think I'm at 20% already, which is great, if you are. I want to be 30%. I want 30% of my week to be in that strengths or energy zone. And here's what I'm going to do, to do it. And I promise you, at 10% it might seem like a little number, it's like, oh, just 30% Guess what? You will notice it. You will notice it. You will start to be more fulfilled. You're going to be more engaged in the job. People are going to notice your energy. And then you're going to actually start to sort of deal with that career growth that a lot of people are seeking. They want to, they want to, like, when you said perfectionist, like, a lot of people, want to deliver high performing work. They're, they're, they're trying to bring their best to work. The problem is, is that they're bringing their best selves to work, in terms of, like, quality of work, but they're actually kind of, like, not really deeply engaged. We need to see your superpowers come out, and that's where the 20 to 30% becomes a complete sea change.Lesley Logan 28:25  Yeah, so. And also, like, I recently interviewed someone who is, like, helping people, like, prevent, you know, like, it's like, layoff proof or something like that. Like, if you get laid off, your life is gonna be okay. Because she had said, and I didn't, I did not double check this quote, but I it feels right. She said it by 2032 work will be different than we think, because of AI, right? And I like, I'm not someone who's like, AI is going to like be everything, because I really don't, really don't think so. I think there's a lot that they have to learn. They haven't even figured how to monetize it. I but I also think that, like, it's already here, like apps and tools like that already use it. We've been using a project management tool that basically has AI built into it with these different things. So I do think work is going to change, and where I keep coming back to something that I remember, I think, with Seth Godin, who said it, god, 20 years ago, I heard this. He's like, you know, you cannot like they even though AI is creating stuff, they're creating stuff off things that are existing you, if you are a creative person, if you like the if you are in your superpower, that is not something a robot can take away. Like that is not something AI can take away. And I think like now more than ever, the more we all figure out what our superpower is, the more layoff proof we really are. And because someone's gonna need to run the AI.Danielle Droitsch 29:39  Somebody has to run the AI. But I had a client just a few, few days ago. She was, been in fear of a layoff. And, I mean, it was a real, real fear. I mean, she was given time, like we have this much time. And then she came back to me proudly and said, I just made myself indispensable. So she figured out a way to bring her superpowers forward, so that she had to be the person on the team to help with something. And she's got all these superpowers, and she figured it out. So part of like, what we're talking about here is this idea of career growth, this idea of like, not being stagnant. I come at it from a perspective of, nobody wants to go to a job and hate it like we want to love our jobs. We do not want to go to work and just be like zombies. Do we? For most people, I'll bet most of your listeners, if not all of them, it is not just about a paycheck. And so we really, really want to have, I mean, ideally, love our work, and that's where I come from. But if you're also thinking, I want to love my work and I want to grow. I want to think about where my career is going. Then, yeah, by all means, figure out your superpowers and very quickly, because it is not about skills and strengths. When you're mid to senior in your career, everybody else has those skills and strengths too. And of course, AI is coming to pick them up. It's going to be found in this secret way, this unusual way, for you to manage people, to be a strategic thinker, to influence others. I mean, these are all what strengths are. They're soft, but they're crucial, and you probably don't even know you're doing them, which is why you have to figure them out. Lesley Logan 31:19  Can you tell me, like, what are just like, like, what are some superpowers you've seen in clients? Like, just because, like, name them off, because I think some people are like, thinking of superpower has to be like, I can see, like, I only know that people can, like, articulate what they think a superpower is (inaudible). Danielle Droitsch 31:34  It's a bit of a process. So I'll just pull out some of my big favorites. And these are ones I see in my regular clients, achievers. So achievers are people who they're basically laser focused on getting projects done. It is not just about the project. It's that they are tireless workers to reach a result and that, and they might have examples of that, like degrees they might have achieved or projects. But the achievers are the ones who are the ones who actually get the job done. And then you have the examples of that. Another example would be in the influencing category. We have a whole set of influencing. It's people who are great at activating new project, mobilizing resources, and mobilizing people to actually ramp something new up. Another example would be the developer, which is basically someone who is great at helping someone else reach their full potential. These are the managers. These are the leaders who are great at cultivating teams. Another example. Lesley Logan 32:34  These are the managers. We hope that every manager has a developing.Danielle Droitsch 32:38  So many terrible managers out there, it's unbelievable, anyway. And so, yeah, if you're a great manager, my goodness, you are marketable. Like, that's a transferable skill, because we don't have enough great managers or the ability to bring a team together around a common goal. Yeah, it's great to be able to project manage, but it's the person who's really able to sort of bring a team together and say, we are all rowing the same way. And that's a lot of lot of special little powers you bring to get everybody, usually it's a disparate and very diverse group of people to say together we're doing. And then a final example, and there's, in my world, if there's 34 of them, so I'm not going to, you know, go through all of them, but the final couple would be one is the person in the room who's the strategic thinker who's really able to figure out that pathway. They're thinking, hey, you know what? We have this challenge or this problem, they're the one who just incisively, can cut through all the noise and figure out what the pathway is, and they might be getting there first before everyone else, and they don't understand why no one else figures it out. And then the final one I'll share is the person who is the ideator, the person in the room who is just great at generating ideas, cultivating new things, innovation. Sometimes that's the ad people and the sales people, but sometimes that's just, you know, it's, you're just a person in the room saying, I have an idea. Those are just at a smattering, and there was no skills or strengths. I mean, no skills or knowledge, and anything I just shared with you.Lesley Logan 34:05  I agree. I I'm the ideator around here, and the and Brad walks around going, no, that, we'll take we'll take this idea and that idea, we can do it. It's just, it's gonna cost us a lot of money. And, and I'm like, oh, like, I didn't want to spend that much money on that idea. Like, I just thought it'd be, like, this easy thing to do, okay, but, like, it's quite fun. And I had no idea, because I was someone like, why can't I finish anything? You know? Why do I have all these my head is full of ideas, and I just feel like I can't finish anything. And actually, it's because that's not my strength. It's not my superpower, to finish anything.Danielle Droitsch 34:38  Yeah, you're like, you're the person in the room who generates and I'm sure that in your life and your business, you could point to specific things you're doing that were generated by you, the thing, and this is a little bit of advanced thinking in the in the strength zone, but you may feel like you're weak at something, but actually, it's actually a superpower that's being overextended. So for my ideators, I'll say, they'll they'll come to me and say, I'm so weak at this, this mess. And what it is is that if you're ideating and you have a lot of ideas and you're just constantly throwing them out, the over extension or overuse of a strength is just to know that only a couple of your ideas are going to move forward, and that's it. So sometimes people come to me and they're like, oh, I'm so weak at this. And then we'll look at their strengths and talk, and I'm like, you know what? I don't think it's a weakness. I think it's just that you are trying to exercise a strength a little bit more. And what we want to do is we want to put the strength superpower in the strength zone. Sometimes we may be overextending something. So don't think you're weak just because, you know, I just see it too often, especially with my women clients, like they come in, they're like, I'm so bad. Like, I'll use myself as an example. That I used to think as my relationship strengths, as my weakness, that I was too soft, too emotional. And in fact, what it was was that I didn't have any space or time in my workplace, which is very, you know, kind of masculine and, you know, very corporate, that there was no space for me to be cultivating my emotional intelligence in there. It was just get things done. But in a coaching space, all of my emotional intelligence was really welcome. So you just want to be really aware that it may not be a weakness, it may be a strength. It's just you have to figure out the right place for it. Lesley Logan 36:24  That makes so much sense, Danielle, because, like, it's the same as me telling people, like, well, you're not really supposed to overwork out, like you might actually be working out too much, and that's why you have aches, pains, injuries, high cortisol levels, terrible sleep. Like there is a balance. So that, to me, makes so much sense. This is really refreshing and quite cool and also approachable. And I just want to like highlight, like it really is a be it till you see it, because you get to start an observation mode, and then you get to play in a low percentage you guys have, and that's so, so great for the perfectionist who are practicing recovery to be like, just like, what's this percentage? And how can I dial it up a little bit more and a little bit more at a time until, oh my gosh, you are totally loving what your your day is like. And we I just, thank you, Danielle, for just highlighting all of this for us. We're gonna take a brief break and we're gonna find out where people can find you, follow you and find out their superpowers with you. Lesley Logan 37:02  All right, Danielle, where do you hang out? Where can they learn their superpower? What do you have for us?Danielle Droitsch 37:28  I you find me on LinkedIn, connect with me. Please reach out. Connect with me on LinkedIn, I have a gazillion resources there on everything from leadership to confidence to superpowers. That's the best place to find me. Where I hang out. I also am on a couple of other places, and you can find me on my website at time4wellbeing, the number four, time4wellbeing.com.Lesley Logan 37:48  Perfect, wonderful. You all, go check her out on LinkedIn, and then go check her website for those free resources. We love that. You have given us some great stuff already, but bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Danielle Droitsch 38:02  Yeah, so just follow your energy. That's where your superpowers live. The clarity doesn't come from thinking harder harder. Confidence doesn't come from faking it. I know you. This is something you've said a lot. They come from activating what's true about you.Lesley Logan 38:02  That's beautiful. I couldn't agree more. I really, it's really someone at the end of another podcast, go, you're so confident. And I'm like, and like, how did you get to be so confident? I'm like, I think I just just keep trying to do what I said I was going to do each and every day it doesn't come, you don't you don't get deemed it, y'all.Danielle Droitsch 38:43  No, no. And I mean, honestly, I have led many people to this confidence journey, and we are waiting for this mindset to ship to show up. And we know, again, I'm a research-based gal. Confidence is not built through the mindset. It is built through action and failure and success and getting right back up. And I would say, I've been gone through that gamut, like many of your listeners have. It sounds like you have, too, but it's not through waiting for it. It is really about action.Lesley Logan 39:18  Yes, yes, yes, yes, all things, yes, Danielle, we are so grateful to have you like you just have been so wonderful. And I'm so excited that you figured out what your superpower is so you could be doing this with other people like, thank goodness. I mean, I'm sure you were a great environmental law lawyer, and the environment needed you. But I think all of us, ladies here, and the few good men who listen, need you too. So thank you all. You guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Make sure you tell Danielle on LinkedIn. You tag the beitpod, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Maybe you got a friend who's just not really sure what their superpower is and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 39:51  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 40:33  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 40:38  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 40:43  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 40:49  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 40:53  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Welcome Natties to episode 111 “Peek behind the curtains” with returning guest comedian and voice actor Jeff Leach! Join us as we dive into the true story behind the movie Roofman, bots running social media, being a good person, Bad Impressions video game edition and so much more! !!! You don't want to miss this one! Remember to please like, comment and subscribe! Are you a part of THE Natty Nation? What are you waiting for? Thanks Natties for all your support and being along for the ride!!!Go follow Jeff and tell him the Naturals sent yah!Natties we officially have MERCH! Support us and the podcast by ordering on our website www.thenaturalspod.com Thank you!SocialsJeff Leach: @jeffleachUncle Kyle/Pod: @thenaturalspodSweet Derek: @sweetderekproductionsEmail: sweetderekproductions@gmail.com

Kamala Harris loses her MIND on Jon Stewart's podcast about Trump's White House ballroom project, dropping multiple ‘F' bombs. Meanwhile, Dana resurfaces flashback videos of Nick Fuentes being sexist and anti-Semitic as the pushback of his interview on Tucker Carlson's show continues. Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Jones Road Beautyhttps://JonesRoadBeauty.comGet a free, Cool Gloss from Jones Road Beauty with your first purchase using code DANA.Bub's Naturalshttps://BubsNaturals.comGet 20% off your order at Bub's Naturals with code DANA. Support the show and tell them Dana sent you.PreBornhttps://Preborn.com/DANAAnswer the call and help save lives—dial  #250 and say “Baby,” or give securely online. Make your gift today.AmmoSquaredhttps://AmmoSquared.comDon't get caught without ammo, and be sure to tell them you heard about Ammo Squared on this show. Keltec- KS7 Gen2https://KelTecWeapons.comKelTec builds every KS7 GEN2 right here in the USA with American materials and workers—upgrade your home defense today. Keltec- Peacekeepers Programhttps://KelTecWeapons.com/DanaThe KelTec Peacekeepers Program supports those who protect our communities.  Learn more at KelTecWeapons.com/Dana today.All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Don't wait until flu season knocks at your door. Use code DANA10 at checkout to save 10%. Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana to receive 10% off Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/DanaDana's personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANAHumanNhttps://HumanN.comStart supporting your cardiovascular health with SuperBeets, now available at your local Walmart.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Jones Road Beautyhttps://JonesRoadBeauty.comGet a free, Cool Gloss from Jones Road Beauty with your first purchase using code DANA.Bub's Naturalshttps://BubsNaturals.comGet 20% off your order at Bub's Naturals with code DANA. Support the show and tell them Dana sent you.PreBornhttps://Preborn.com/DANAAnswer the call and help save lives—dial  #250 and say “Baby,” or give securely online. Make your gift today.AmmoSquaredhttps://AmmoSquared.comDon't get caught without ammo, and be sure to tell them you heard about Ammo Squared on this show. Keltec- KS7 Gen2https://KelTecWeapons.comKelTec builds every KS7 GEN2 right here in the USA with American materials and workers—upgrade your home defense today. Keltec- Peacekeepers Programhttps://KelTecWeapons.com/DanaThe KelTec Peacekeepers Program supports those who protect our communities.  Learn more at KelTecWeapons.com/Dana today.All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Don't wait until flu season knocks at your door. Use code DANA10 at checkout to save 10%. Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana to receive 10% off Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/DanaDana's personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANAHumanNhttps://HumanN.comStart supporting your cardiovascular health with SuperBeets, now available at your local Walmart.

Happy Halloween. President Trump threatens getting rid of the filibuster as leverage to get the government reopened. Trump placed candy on ANOTHER kid's head during trick-or-treating at The White House. Dana resurfaces flashback videos of Fuentes being sexist and anti-Semitic as the pushback of his interview on Tucker Carlson's show continues. Singer Billie Eilish has DEMANDED for billionaires to give their money away. Heritage Foundation's President Kevin Roberts puts out a video statement defending Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes. Kamala Harris loses her MIND on Jon Stewart's podcast about Trump's White House ballroom project, dropping multiple ‘F' bombs. A Democrat Illinois Congressional Candidate charged with impeding federal agents RAGE QUITS from an interview after a video was played of her banging on a federal agent's car. Dana explains why the current fight within the Conservative movement would hurt all Republicans chances in upcoming elections. Dana reacts to a guinea pig-sized AI companion that builds emotional bonds and responds to touch light and sound. David Limbaugh joins us to react to the Tucker/Fuentes interview, blasts Heritage's response and the fight on the right.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Jones Road Beautyhttps://JonesRoadBeauty.comGet a free, Cool Gloss from Jones Road Beauty with your first purchase using code DANA.Bub's Naturalshttps://BubsNaturals.comGet 20% off your order at Bub's Naturals with code DANA. Support the show and tell them Dana sent you.PreBornhttps://Preborn.com/DANAAnswer the call and help save lives—dial  #250 and say “Baby,” or give securely online. Make your gift today.AmmoSquaredhttps://AmmoSquared.comDon't get caught without ammo, and be sure to tell them you heard about Ammo Squared on this show. Keltec- KS7 Gen2https://KelTecWeapons.comKelTec builds every KS7 GEN2 right here in the USA with American materials and workers—upgrade your home defense today. Keltec- Peacekeepers Programhttps://KelTecWeapons.com/DanaThe KelTec Peacekeepers Program supports those who protect our communities.  Learn more at KelTecWeapons.com/Dana today.All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Don't wait until flu season knocks at your door. Use code DANA10 at checkout to save 10%. Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana to receive 10% off Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/DanaDana's personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANAHumanNhttps://HumanN.comStart supporting your cardiovascular health with SuperBeets, now available at your local Walmart.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Jones Road Beautyhttps://JonesRoadBeauty.comGet a free, Cool Gloss from Jones Road Beauty with your first purchase using code DANA.Bub's Naturalshttps://BubsNaturals.comGet 20% off your order at Bub's Naturals with code DANA. Support the show and tell them Dana sent you.PreBornhttps://Preborn.com/DANAAnswer the call and help save lives—dial  #250 and say “Baby,” or give securely online. Make your gift today.AmmoSquaredhttps://AmmoSquared.comDon't get caught without ammo, and be sure to tell them you heard about Ammo Squared on this show. Keltec- KS7 Gen2https://KelTecWeapons.comKelTec builds every KS7 GEN2 right here in the USA with American materials and workers—upgrade your home defense today. Keltec- Peacekeepers Programhttps://KelTecWeapons.com/DanaThe KelTec Peacekeepers Program supports those who protect our communities.  Learn more at KelTecWeapons.com/Dana today.All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Don't wait until flu season knocks at your door. Use code DANA10 at checkout to save 10%. Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana to receive 10% off Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/DanaDana's personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANAHumanNhttps://HumanN.comStart supporting your cardiovascular health with SuperBeets, now available at your local Walmart.

Lesley Logan brings a little Halloween magic and a big reminder that progress isn't always linear. From 58-year-old record-breaker DonnaJean Wilde to community member Kelly Nyhan's confidence win, Lesley celebrates the power of showing up, shifting plans, and staying grounded through change. She shares how unexpected pivots can become proud milestones and closes with an affirmation to help you trust your gut and lead with heart.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:44  Hello, Be It babe. Happy Friday. Happy Fuck Yeah Friday and Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. I don't, I do not decorate for Halloween. I actually, I don't like to be scared, but I have to say that I really am some, like, somewhat excited about this holiday, mostly because I just, over the last year, I feel like I've learned a bit more about the holidays. And, like, what I was told was, like, paganism and like weird, like, witchy stuff. And, you know, because I grew up in religion, and now I can look at this holiday and go, I love all the witches. Yeah, I love them all. They were like the all knowing women. Often they were fucking doulas. And I just love it. I really wish this holiday had been, like, kept alive from the history of it in a different way. But, you know, it's good. So we celebrate things that are on our hearts and our minds. Wins of yours you send in, a win of mine and an affirmation. Lesley Logan 1:42  So this is really cool. I saw this online. 58-year-old Donna Jean Wilde set the Guinness World Record for the longest abdominal plank held by a woman. Okay, so this is insane. 58, when they're telling us, oh, women after 40, good luck building muscle. Blah, blah, blah. Well, 58-year-old Donna Jean Wilde from Alberta, set a Guinness World Record in March 2024 for the longest plank held by a woman holding it for, ready, four hours, 30 minutes and 11 seconds. She also holds the record for the most push ups in one hour by a woman, 1,575, I don't even know why we need to know, like, have these records, like, I'm actually not sure that it's even like necessary, but I love that she did this, and I love that she's 58 and I love that she's a grandmother, and I love that she's, is she a grandmother? At least she, they said, did I read that wrong? Anyways, I freaking, maybe she's not, but she's still a kick ass woman, whether or not, she is in my book. I also like, look at some of these things and just go, how do they have the time to practice? How would you even know you could hold it for four hours? Like, I don't know what else you're doing in the day to get her things going on. But I fucking love this for you. And I love, oh no, she has a grandchild. In fact, she has 12 grandchildren. I didn't think I made that up. Okay, there we go. I'm like, my memory is pretty good. Anyways, I'm impressed by that. I just think, like, this is proof that we can be it till you see with anything we want, anything we want, you don't you don't just, like, show up one day and do a four hour plank. I don't even know if I can be with myself for four hours. You know, that's a long time, but she fucking did. So anyways, you can do whatever you want. I'm not saying you can do that too, because I don't know that you need to, but I I'm happy for her, and I'm happy to share with you that you can build muscle and kick ass at 58 years old or older. Lesley Logan 3:32  Here we go. We have an amazing win from Kelly Nyhan. We love her and love her from Chicago. We've experienced her. We got to see her a lot in different places in the world. I love when we get to see what's going on in the wins of people's lives. She has listened to this podcast for years. So her FYF is okay, I'm feeling really great about my practice and teaching these days, and I've had to really pat myself on the back, LL and Brad and my fellow eLevators on the fact that I am keeping some type of practice in my day and week, increasing my movement what feels good in my body for right now, and diving deeper into the exercises with the flash cards, which are a game changer. Complement with YouTube videos I signed up for OPC and committed to watching and doing each video. I feel good about watching the video sometimes at 2.0 speed before I do the class. That feels good to me right now, but maybe in the future, I'll just go for it. A couple more fyfs. I signed up for a day at Balanced Body Chicago's Pilates On Tour, purchased a Contrology Wunda Chair to pick up, signed up for LL's mat class at a local studio, Rachel from eLevate, and, of course, the happy hour, oh, and I helped facilitate LL's current eLevate group for part of chairs weekend, chairs, oh, I want to master you. And sorry this is long, but I have a loose system for really showing up for the things I want to keep me connected to my Agency eLevate and OPC community. Feeling great and more connected in every which way. And it shows in my teaching. I'm getting more confident every day. Woohoo. Kelly, there's a lot of wins in there, babe, which I, you know I love. I love that you're giving yourself permission, like you're like, okay, I need to watch the class first. Like, we all have different learning styles. And instead of us, like, going, oh, I, like, I have ADHD, and I have to catch myself like, sometimes I say it like, I was like, like, I'm annoyed by it, right? Instead, it's like, well, I have this, and so because I have this, I do this, and I'm going to celebrate that. So I'm celebrating you, Kelly, that you are like, you know what? Right now, I need to watch the class at 2x speed so that I can see what's going on, so that when I do the class, I know what I'm modifying so you can honor your body. I love that. That's so great for you. And like all the different things you're doing, to be in community and to make sure that you get to prioritize that that's huge. It's not easy to do, so, it's not easy to make time for other people all the time, and you're doing a great job. So thank you for sending your win in. Kelly, who's next, who's gonna send their win in? Lesley Logan 5:46  A win of mine. So this win is a little long time in sharing, because I've had other things I want to celebrate with you, but I wanted to still celebrate this with you. This is my year of, like, pivot, which, like, who knew we would all thought that would've been 2020 and I'd be, like, gone and done with it, but I actually don't think so. I think 2020 was, like, the transformation year that I planned it to be, and it just looked a little differently, and everyone else was pivoting. This has been the pivot year. So we had to pivot in the summertime with the Canada thing to virtual. And then literally, 10 days later, we had something going with our AC. We had a bunch of people the house for an eLevate workshop. We had a pivot to another place, made a pivot back I should have done another pivot that I've had to do. And I just want to say, like, I'm pretty freaking proud and celebrating that, like I actually have practice what can I do so freaking much that I can just pivot in minutes on any massive project, and it can include many people, and I find a way to make the actual thing that I wanted to happen, and then I'm able to execute on it, and I can feel so good at the end of the day going even though I'm tired, even though whoa, I planned for X and I ended up doing y. Why did I have to plan for X for so many months to only do Y in so many minutes? But I'm celebrating that, because I think a lot of times, we would just focus on all the shit that went wrong, and I got, I by being like, celebrating that I was able to pivot like, to celebrate all the things that we got right and we got to do and the experience and the community that we had because of it. And I'm just so proud. And so anyways, there's probably a skill set you have that other people don't, that you probably don't even realize it's a skill set. And I'm telling you, it's time to celebrate that you did those things, that you're doing those things, because it's really easy to take our strengths for granted and not just take a moment to celebrate. Oh my God, fucking great at that, right? Fucking great at that. All right, anyways, pivot queen over here, who hopes that next year is a different kind of year. Lesley Logan 7:39  All right. Your affirmation to leave you for the weekend. Oh, this one's good. I make decisions based on a good gut. I make changes based on a growing heart. I make decisions based on a good gut, and I make changes based on a growing heart. I make decisions based on a good gut and I make changes based on a growing heart. How much abundance is that? Fucking great. Yeah, all right, go Be It Till You See It. See you next time. Lesley Logan 8:06  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 8:49  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 8:53  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 8:58  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 9:05  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 9:08  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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In this recap, Lesley and Brad reflect on their powerful conversation with Amber Fuhriman—attorney, NLP trainer, and host of Break Your Bullshit Box. Together they unpack how perfectionism and people-pleasing keep high achievers trapped in fear, and how authenticity, though uncomfortable, is freeing. This episode challenges listeners to take responsibility for their choices and trust that staying authentic is better than constantly seeking approval.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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You know, I want to be this type of person. I will become this type of person, right? I am becoming this type of person.Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:57  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the candid convo I had with Amber Fuhriman on our last episode. If you haven't listened to that one, you are going to need to listen to that one, because I'm stumbling over my words today. Brad Crowell 1:12  It's a great episode. It's a lot of fun.Lesley Logan 1:14  It's so good, it's so fun. And it was nice as local. And I really like being on her podcast, so you're gonna want to listen to it whether you listen to it first or last, I mean, there's, it's really okay, I think, in life to hear the ending and then watch the show. Sometimes I do that with real life TV, because I just want to know if I'm like, falling like, if I'm like, rooting for a villain or not. I just want to know. I gotta, I gotta have that information now.Brad Crowell 1:35  Yeah, she's not lying. She literally does this. Lesley Logan 1:38  Hey, you know what? Brad Crowell 1:39  Tell me. Lesley Logan 1:39  Bands would like drop just like a single song, but you'd go buy the whole album without listening to it. So you, in fact, knew there's one song I'm gonna love on this. Speaker 1 1:50  I think there's a difference between the teaser of something and the ending conclusion. Lesley Logan 1:55  These are not teasers. The recap episode is teasers. We are taking a talking point each, right? And of the many talking points that they had, so it's like two things.Speaker 1 2:06  I don't know what that has to do with going and watching the end of a TV show before you start the TV show. That's the conclusion versus a teaser. Lesley Logan 2:12  It's a sample, sampling. Brad Crowell 2:14  Okay. Lesley Logan 2:14  Sampling a part. Brad Crowell 2:16  It just happens to be the ending sample. Lesley Logan 2:18  Okay. Well, today is October 30th and we decided we want to talk about tomorrow, because tomorrow is Halloween. And I don't know about you, but I grew up. First of all, I went to some churches where Halloween was, like, just the evilest thing you couldn't even go trick or treating. Did you ever go to a church like that, like, where, like, they didn't even? Brad Crowell 2:35  No. Lesley Logan 2:35  Okay. Your church has always trick or treated? Brad Crowell 2:37  Yes. Lesley Logan 2:38  Okay. So I did not experience that all of my childhood. But then some churches, we could totally trick or treat, and then there were some churches where you could trick or treat, but like people, like whispered, you know. Brad Crowell 2:49  They whispered about trick or treating? Lesley Logan 2:51  At any rate, what no one talks about is how this holiday had nothing to do with the churches, and it wasn't even the Halloween. It was about something else. And we decided to tell you about the true history of Halloween. So.Speaker 1 3:03  Yeah, it's, it's actually like cultural warfare is, if you, if you want to look at it. Lesley Logan 3:08  I know, like, it's like an appropriation. Brad Crowell 3:10  Yeah. Well, they, yes, they appropriated the time and they renamed it. So we'll talk about that. Lesley Logan 3:16  Okay, many, many holidays were done this way. So Halloween originated from the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain, right. Brad Crowell 3:24  Samhain. Lesley Logan 3:25  No no. In the thing we looked up, it literally said to how to say it pronounced saa · wn. So Samhain is pronounced saa · wn spelled Samhain, but it's you say it saa · wn, let me go back to my sheet. Okay. A three day celebration held over 2000 years ago that marked the end of the harvest season and the beginning of the dark, cold winter. Are you gonna just.Brad Crowell 3:52  Sorry, just taking over right there. All right, keep going. Lesley Logan 3:55  Okay. Thank you so much. Okay, so the Celts believed that this was a time when the boundary between the worlds of the living and the dead blurred, allowing spirits to roam the earth. To ward off harmful spirits and guide benevolent ones, they lit bonfires, wore costumes and left offerings and food outside their homes. Pause, just so you know, also in October in Cambodia, they do something called Pchum Ben and Pchum Ben, Pchum Ben, it is a almost month long celebration in parts of the country, but for sure, a three day celebration where everyone, no one works, including in the tourist city of Siem Reap we're only going to find expats working. You're not going to find a single Cambodian working. And they they don't get dressed up, but they celebrate and they do all these things so like that is awesome.Speaker 1 4:42  Pchum Ben is a Buddhist holiday that is celebrated every year where they believe that the souls of their ancestors are released for 15 days so that they can basically stay with family. Lesley Logan 4:53  Yeah, it's really cool. People like will travel on a moto for 11 hours to go with family. It's freaking crazy. But I just want to say, like, how cool, like, even across the world, the same, similar thing was happening. So to ward off harmful spirits and guide benevolent ones, they, oh, I already said that part, sorry. Speaker 1 5:09  They lit bonfires, wore costumes and left offerings, which is actually like it trickles down over the, you know, millennia. And the ancient custom, those ancient customs, kind of evolved into what are now, trick or treating, the costumes, decorations and parties celebrated for modern Halloween. I mean, we don't light bonfires and, you know that kind of a thing (inaudible).Lesley Logan 5:30  No because if you did, people are gonna think that you're a witch. But you can actually just say, no, I'm celebrating. How do you say it? Samhain, I'm celebrating Samhain Okay, so the oh, one more thing on this, the Roman and Christian influence. After the Romans conquered the Celtic lands, Roman festivals like Feralia and Pomona were incorporated into Samhain traditions. Later, the Catholic Church established All Saints Day on November 1st and All Souls Day on November 2nd, making October 31st All Hallows Eves, which means hallowed or holy, right? So they just.Brad Crowell 6:05  Which then become Halloween. Yup.Lesley Logan 6:08  .Yeah, So they just stole it. Brad Crowell 6:10  Yeah. Just just renaming things over here. Lesley Logan 6:12  So if you don't like that I'm harping on the church, you know it, sometimes we have to accept the responsibility of people from our past. Every fucking group of people has done something wrong, but it's more important to be like, educated and understand. And if you love Halloween, I love that for you. I decided to get into Halloween-ish, this year I got witchy nails, which are not done for this recording, but just check out my Instagram. They're witchy nails for me anyways. And when I because I just, like, remember, when I was why does everybody like, this holiday, but now that I, like, know the history of it and what it was for, I actually can get down with it.Speaker 1 6:50  It also marks like, it's actually the end of a season, going into the next season. So it was the end of harvest. So imagine, yeah, imagine, imagine you just spent all season, like, you know, really digging in on the harvest, and now it's time to party, and there's a new season coming. So I feel like it all kind of goes together. Lesley Logan 7:11  And also, like, I mean, just imagine a couple thousand years ago, like, life was so hard. And I also (inaudible), the more you look at the celebrations that they had, it really was like taking a pause of the hard work of life, and doing some sort of way to celebrate that. And we don't do that around here. We just, like, keep working through all the things. And like, at least in the States, maybe you take off a couple days for the actual holidays. And so I just, I feel like this is a holiday that has a lot more history to it. And and I, and I kind of like, what that history is. It seems really beautiful. And what a great way to spend time with family and past loved ones. And also, like, let's not forget, you know, in Mexico, they do Día de Muertos, which is on November 1st, right? Like, the big celebration of the like, there's a lot of different cultures that celebrate the people that have come before them and spend time together. And there's all this stuff. So anyways, just think about that. Think about the loved ones you had, and celebrate the harvesting you did, and report back. Okay.Speaker 1 8:09  Yeah, Lesley and I've been back from Cambodia and Singapore now for a week and a half. And it's just always so refreshing for us to get back to our second family over there. You know, people that we love, the places that we love to be in. The environment over there is just it's so magical. And we would love to have you join us next year, but get on the waitlist, because there's limited amount of spots. We're going to be going in October of next year, but we're going to be announcing all of that in January. So go to crowsnestretreats.com to get on the waitlist for information about the upcoming trip for 2026 we're only going one time next year, only going one time next year. We're only going one one time next year. Lesley Logan 8:50  Are you trying to convince yourself or everyone else? Brad Crowell 8:53  I'm letting everybody know, because a lot of people have said, oh, I'll come with you in the spring, and we're not going in the spring. We are only going in the fall next year, so, side note. Lesley Logan 9:04  And probably the year after that, I just have to say it to you. Brad Crowell 9:06  October 1st, we already rolled out our tour go to opc.me/events to join us for the OPC winter tour. We're gonna be driving all around the United States of America. We're gonna be going from Vegas all the way up to Boston, down to Miami and back. It's gonna be something like 24, 25 locations. It's kind of insane. We're very excited about it. We are going to be even bigger.Lesley Logan 9:28  We're going to studios we've not been to and have been excited. They've been on the list for a while. These are human beings that, like, we have literally been like, how do we make sure we get to see them again?Speaker 1 9:39  But you can find out all the specifics where we're stopping. Go to opc.me/events, chances are high that some locations may already be sold out. Lesley Logan 9:47  Yeah it's been out for a month. Brad Crowell 9:48  Because it's been out for a month. So but go check it out opc.me/tour. Then in January, where are you teaching?Lesley Logan 9:55  We'll be at the Pilates Journal, their first ever event in the U.S. It will be at Huntington Beach. If you go to xxll.co/pilatesjournal, you can get your tickets Brad Crowell 10:03  Pilates Journal Expo. Lesley Logan 10:05  Yeah. So Pilates Journal is a Pilates Journal. It's a magazine, and they.Brad Crowell 10:10  It's free, by the way. Lesley Logan 10:11  Is it? Brad Crowell 10:11  Yeah. The journal they release is free. Lesley Logan 10:14  Oh, I love that. I mean, I always just assumed, I just was given it for free. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Pilates Journal, but I just, I don't know. I just thought maybe they just (inaudible).Brad Crowell 10:23  I'm like 90% sure. Lesley Logan 10:25  But they, they do a really, they do events in Australia and. Brad Crowell 10:28  Yeah, subscribe for free. Lesley Logan 10:29  You can subscribe for free. I've written for articles for them several times. I think it's really worth looking into. But if you're a Pilates teacher, you should come. The lineup is amazing. Several of these teachers have taught. We've all taught together somewhere, but never taught all together. So like you're not going to see this line up again, you might as well come and then in February, we're going to host Agency Mini, that is our business coaching program for Pilates instructors and studio owners. And you're going to want to go to prfit,biz/mini. So it's profit without the O dot B-I-Z slash mini, to get on the waitlist. Also probably in January-ish, they'll be letting the waitlist people get the best discount. So I'm just saying. In March, we're going to two places in Europe. We'll be in Poland, at the Pilates Poland Controlology Pilates Conference. So go to xxll.co/poland by the way, I'm doing that with Karen Frischmann. And so if you like me, and you're gonna like Karen, I'm just gonna tell you right now, she's like, she's extremely smart, extremely knowledgeable. And like, I I feel, I feel like, like, you know how there's like the pop band, and then there's like the, like, uber rock, like, just has done, been doing music for decades, and like, they're just like, that's what it is. And so you, if you don't know Karen, I promise you're gonna love Karen. And if you know Karen, then what are you waiting for? The two of us will be together so we can, like, knock it out in one weekend, or go into Brussels, xxll.co/brussels. We'll be at El's studio there in Brussels, and we're very excited about it, different workshops at each event. So, but same teacher. So you're as long as long as you love Karen and I, or one of us, you're gonna have a great lineup. Just pick the one that works the best for you, and then we will, Brad is gonna take me on a second honeymoon, and then we are going to land and arrive at P.O.T in London. And I don't have a link for you, but you could just Google P.O.T., Balanced Bodies P.O.T. London, It will come up. They have amazing SEO. They're really good at what they do. And you can snag your spot. It is limited, and it sells out every year. So there you go. Before we get into this amazing interview with Amber, what is our question this week?Speaker 1 12:29  @marystarpilates asks, hey, Lesley, do you still do your continued education teacher training program? Where can I find information on that? Thank you so much. So I'm assuming she's talking about eLevate. Lesley Logan 12:41  Yes, I did clarify. And the answer is yes, she's talking about my mentorship program for Pilates instructors. So you have to have, you have to have done a comprehensive program in that, like, you should have been trained on the mat, Reformer, Cadillac or Tower and Chair, right? The Wunda Chair. Of course, I'd love it if you (inaudible) on the barrels. But like, I'm not worried about you being overwhelmed by the fifth weekend, but you need and then you have to have access to a mat, a Reformer, a Tower, Cadillac, a Chair and a Barrel. So you don't have to have a full studio access. It doesn't have to be classical. In fact, I work with both classically trained and contemporary trained people who are classic, classically curious, classical people who feel like they were like, taught this, like, rigid, you know, culty perfect way of doing Pilates, and they would like to have a little bit more fun. And we just really break down and ditch perfection and get really excited about what Joe gave us and what the intentions were, and free you from thinking you need to have a million fucking cues all the time. And also really help you with your own personal practice. Help you with seeing, help you with patience in your teaching. And so if you go to lesleylogan.co/elevate, you can learn more about it if you do the same exact URL, but add waitlist to it. So lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist, you can get on the waitlist for the next one, because this upcoming what year are we in right now? So 2026, is next year is sold out. Sold out. You can reach out to us. You never know what might happen. But 2027 is where we're already we're actually already taking people, taking applications, selling spots. The reality is mentorship programs like this. I have friends who have one who are five years booked in the future. I'm not going out that far. I'm kind of a year in advance kind of person, but if you know you want it then you can plan ahead. So that's what I would say. Speaker 1 14:24  Yeah, awesome. Well, stick around. We'll be, oh, actually. Lesley Logan 14:28  Go to beitpod you want to send us questions. Brad Crowell 14:30  Yeah, you have to join us for all these questions. Your participation is required, or we don't get to ask answer your questions. So 310-905-5534, hit us up or.Lesley Logan 14:39  And I want some fun questions. I want, I want relationship questions. I want family questions. I want career questions. I want some (inaudible) questions. Brad Crowell 14:50  She wants some juicy questions.Lesley Logan 14:51  I want, I want, I want. I also want the gossip that comes with the questions. You could be anonymous. Speaker 1 14:58  Go to beitpod.com/questions, where you can leave a win or a question. Thank you for that. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about Amber Fuhrman. Amber Fuhriman is a recovering perfectionist and people pleaser and an attorney who now works as a coach, human behavior expert and podcaster. As a certified trainer of neuro linguistic programming or NLP, and host of the More Than Corporate Podcast. She blends her legal background with mindset and performance coaching to help high achievers push past limiting beliefs and perfectionism. And after years of believing success was about money and titles, Amber has redefined it as freedom choice and building a life that truly feels fulfilling. A lot of relation like a relatability here with her story and just.Lesley Logan 15:43  I know, another guest where it's like, oh, we're, like, just on the same we're on the same longitude, you know, just a different latitude. Like, she's doing something very similar, like it's, we're on the same longitude, but a different latitude, you know, like, like, Joe Allen was doing similar things with the orthodontist. And we do what we do for Pilates instructors and studio owners, and she does what she does for like, other professional it's just very cool. But also I love how our lives can bring a different lens to it, a different focus to what we do. And we I really appreciate her willingness and interest in like, we talk about people pleasing, and we talk about a bunch of stuff, but I just really got excited about talking about people pleasing because, like, how many of our listeners, how many people do we know that are doing things that are people pleasing? Brad Crowell 16:26  Well, I thought her definition of it was, she said, people pleasing is when you consider other people's feelings before you consider your own. And I thought that was interesting, especially because, you know, and then y'all talked about how.Lesley Logan 16:47  Yeah, we talked about see, so, like, I also think that some people pleasers are it's just another form of control. By the way, you can also be you're controlling people's emotions as well, or the outcome of people's emotions. But we, she clarified that not people pleasing doesn't mean being an asshole. Just for the purpose of being an asshole, like it's about instead about being authentic and speaking your truth. So meaning, like a lot of people will go to dinner with a family member on Thursday to people please, rather than which is not authentic, by the way, because you don't want to be there. You're gonna be somewhere else. So you're actually that's kind of, I think you're more of an asshole if you're people pleasing because you're not being authentic. I think that's we should re define people pleasing as being an asshole, a non-authentic person.Brad Crowell 17:28  Not authentic person. Lesley Logan 17:30  Yeah. So she advised, like, what you can do when you're not people pleasing is, like, were the actions that I took in alignment with who I want to be as a human So, meaning you decided to not people please. Someone had a reaction that was not something that you liked like all, that they're upset that you're not doing the thing for them. And so like, you get to ask yourself, were the actions that I took in alignment with who I want to be as a human being? If the answer is yes, then I will not apologize when I'm 100% in alignment with my actions. And you can understand that and accept me for I am, or you don't accept me and like, that is really hard for a lot of people, because, like, I'm gonna lose people. You guys were allowed to lose people in our life. We just are, and it's gonna happen. Like, it's impossible. It's impossible to keep everyone happy with you all of the time. There's just not, there's no way that is going to even be a possibility. And so if you are, if you are actually being authentic in alignment with how you feel and you speak that and someone doesn't like it, you are not in the wrong. They are also, by the way, there might not even be in the wrong.Speaker 1 18:29  I mean, look, you could be in the wrong, but if you are doing this to protect yourself or to stop people pleasing, this is when you have to ask yourself these questions. You know, were the actions I took in alignment with who I want to be as a human? If that's the case, then, then you can confidently move forward knowing that you weren't doing it to hurt them. You were doing it to uphold your own values, right? So if you were doing it to hurt them, then don't be an asshole. But if you're doing it to uphold your own values, that that's different.Lesley Logan 19:00  If you were doing it then hurt them. Sorry. You are being an asshole. But I just think that the more we can understand ourselves, the recovering people pleasers that we are, these are gonna be conversations you have to have with yourself. You're going to have to chit chat with yourself about like, okay, but give yourself pep talk. I want to be this person who speaks my heart, who shares how I feel, who's honest with how and will I will spend time with people, and that is going to upset some people who would like me to have more of me or have me at this thing. But I'm not in the wrong. I'm not an asshole. I'm being authentic and like, they will either come around or they won't. Speaker 1 19:35  Yeah, I really liked when she was talking about the like, toxic positivity, like, fake it till you make it. Where she was talking about, she, basically, I just, she was so frustrated about the idea of it, and she, she was like, don't ever put me in a room with people who believe this, because she's gonna lose her shit.Lesley Logan 19:59  Yeah, I want to be in that room. Actually, is that terrible? I like, I would like her to, like, she's such a good person with words. I would love to and she's a lawyer, so she's so good at articulating. Speaker 1 20:11  I mean she talked about, she talked about, you can't lie to yourself and convince you like you can, but there's dissidence that's happening when you're lying yourself in that way. And she said, the brain doesn't like distance between what is being said and what is truly believed. So, you know, she said, instead of doing that, instead of being like, I'm amazing, I'm beautiful in the mirror every morning, kind of a thing, she said, she advocates for affirmations that acknowledge the gap between who I think I am now and who I need to be in order to accomplish this. You know, I want to be this type of person. I will become this type of person, right? I am becoming this type of person, right? That's different than, you know, like.Lesley Logan 20:49  Like people do I am, I am rich. But if you're, like, barely able to pay your bills, like the brain is, that is not helpful. So I am becoming rich.Brad Crowell 20:57  Or I make decisions that are going to make me rich. Lesley Logan 21:00  Yes, I make decisions that are making me rich. I am on my way to abundance. I am, you know? Speaker 1 21:05  Yeah, I like that. And so it's, it's nuanced. It's nuanced here, you know, but I, but I actually appreciated that, and I thought, oh, that's a cool way to to adjust it, because sometimes it does feel fake, and that's annoying, and that's not, that's not. I have a hard time embracing that too, so I get that.Lesley Logan 21:20  Well, because scientifically, like in behavior science, like the brain, doesn't like dissonance, right? So, BJ Fogg, his sister, she was talking about how, you know, one of the habits, BJ likes to get people to start with from reading his book, it's like every day, get out of bed, you put your feet on the floor, like everybody does this. You can literally start a habit. Tomorrow morning, you put your feet on the floor. You say, today is going to be amazing. Or you can say, I'm amazing, but, like, usually he would say, today's me amazing day. And then you stand up and like, you like, so you want and like, it's a great first habits, a great way to start the day. And she, like, talked to us just like, yeah, so my husband died, and on the day of his funeral, I'm not going to put my feet on the floor. I go today is an amazing day. Because the brain isn't like dissonance, and that's gonna screw the habit up, right? Because it's gonna be like, oh, this is not real. So what she said is, today is going to be as good as it can be, right? And that's an honest thing. And so I think where she's.Speaker 1 22:16  And it's an affirmation, you know, like, still, is putting you on like, a path to see the good in the day. Lesley Logan 22:22  Without it being toxic positivity. It's like, it's an and so I actually really appreciated that because we taught we have a lot of people talk about, like, affirmation and mantras. And hers is like, yeah, so have ones that are that are actually helping you be it till you see it, not that are lying to you about what you are. That's not gonna be helpful. She's just super cool. I mean, I listened before I was on her podcast, because I met her in person for the podcast. I listened to several of her episodes, and I was just like, I feel like I'm learning so much. Brad Crowell 22:48  That's cool. Love it.Lesley Logan 22:49  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you don't have to put her on faster speed, just gonna be really honest, you can put it on a regular speed, because I had it on 1.75 I was like, maybe we'll take that down a little bit. It's like listening to me.Speaker 1 23:00  That's hilarious. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into those into those Be It Action Items that you have with Amber Fuhriman in just a minute. Brad Crowell 23:10  All right, welcome back. So finally, what Be It Action Items, can we take away from your convo with Amber? Oh, I said that differently this time. For those of you who say it along with me, say it along with me. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Amber Fuhriman? She said, hey, when you are struggling with overthinking or in or you are struggling with intense emotions, this is really cool y'all. She said, create an SOS list, meaning the list of people that you are flashing the SOS sign to, right? And this list is just two or three trusted people who you can reach out to, and they can be your gauge for you, right, that they can help you when you know you're spiraling out, like if, if you know, for example, if you are like an overthinker and you can't put it into action, and you recognize I'm overthinking again. I'm not acting. I need you to actually just get started. You can text your SOS list, you know, but first ask them if that, you know, they're willing to be on it. But you can develop a specific, predetermined SOS phrase, like Amber said, I'm stuck at the airport, right? And for her, being stuck at the airport is like she's prepping, she's prepping, she's prepping, she's prepping, but she's never taken off. She's never taken off. She's always stuck at the airport. So she said, explain what the SOS phrase means to you, and clarify that if you send that message to your people on the SOS list, it really means I need somebody to check in on me right now. So for example, you know, I imagine it may change over time. You know, what does your SOS mean, right? Especially when Amber's partner died, I imagine it was a, you know, a different reason to be reaching out than now where she's, you know, it's been a couple of years, and she's moving on, and she's running a company and things like that. You know. So she said, it really will help you have somebody check in on you. Who, who you trust to understand like, I need help right now. So when you find yourself in those overwhelm moments, send an SOS to your list. And she said the decision to ask for help actually allows your brain to see solutions. Okay, even if they don't get back to you instantaneously, it will put you on a different path to see solutions, particularly helpful for recovering perfectionists who find it really hard to say, I actually need some help right now. So really cool idea. Lesley Logan 25:35  Something has nothing to do with what we're talking about now, right now. But like my brain went to this person, somebody in China, bought a first class ticket to some Chinese airline, which means that you get to eat in the first class lounge before you take off. And because it's a first class ticket, it's like fully refundable and transferable. So for 300 times, 300 meals, this person would check into the airport, check into the first class lounge, eat for free, and then reschedule their ticket. And they did this 300 times before anyone's like, what is this person doing? So talk about being stuck at the airport, and I just thought, is the food that good? Because the actual like going to an airport, getting into a first class lounge is so annoying.Speaker 1 26:27  Even the food at the Centurion lounge, it's good, but I wouldn't say it's great. Lesley Logan 26:31  And also, not all Centurion lounges are created equal. I like ours, but the L.A. one, you can get it together as can you JFK, just saying, Okay, my big, back on track. Brad Crowell 26:41  Yeah, how about you over here? Lesley Logan 26:43  Recognize you have complete control over your daily decisions. You've complete control your daily decisions. I think we like to outsource decisions like I can't do that because x, y and z, but you have complete control over your daily decisions. And if you're unhappy, you have to dig into the decisions you're making to create that situation. Are you saying yes to things you should be saying no to? Are you staying up late the night before so you feel like shit in the morning, right? So understand that avoiding a decision is still a decision. Oh, avoiding a decision is still a decision, and make different choices to change your outcomes. She also said.Speaker 1 27:22  I think that's been the biggest thing that has changed my stress level is that I would avoid making a decision, but in the back of my mind, it was still I knew I had to address this thing, whatever this thing would be. It didn't matter what it was like, I might like just be unwilling to open a text message from somebody because I knew it was going to launch a whole thing. I got to go down this thing and then I would push it off, and then, you know, or it's like email inbox kind of stuff, too, like, avoid it, avoid it until it's like an actual problem. Yeah, and that was one of the biggest changes, was making the decision to stop avoiding things and to just hug a cactus, as it were. But I love that. I think, I think acknowledging that avoiding a decision is actually still a decision that was super helpful for me.Lesley Logan 28:08  And she said, consider her 90 Day Success Jumpstart Training or join her free Break Your Bullshit Box community. So I and that's on Facebook, if you, if you go there, I mean honest on I went on Facebook the other day, and I was like, oh, wow, look at all these people I can unfollow. Thank you for acknowledging yourself, sir and sir and you so anyways. But I just thought this is such a bright, wonderful, honest and maybe a little maybe you feel called out, maybe you feel called out, and maybe you need to, because you got to break your bullshit. You know. And I just think a lot of us the what's getting in the way of being it till we see it is people pleasing and telling ourselves that we don't have control over certain things, some things you do, and we just gotta be honest about that. So, share this with a friend who needs to hear it, especially the people pleasing one, because those people can bother your life too. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 28:56  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 28:58  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Republicans continue to have a higher approval rating than Democrats during the government shutdown. Zohran Mamdani is now changing his 9/11 story, saying the aunt he cried about wasn't his aunt after all, but his father's cousin. Dana shares EXCLUSIVE reporting about how Mamdani was pocketing donations for a food distribution program. A SNAP recipient goes viral for asking “what would you do if I came to your house to go grocery shopping?” Dana reacts to Tucker Carlson's interview of Nick Fuentes. Transgender rabbis for Zohran Mamdani ironically put out an ad supporting the New York City Mayoral Candidate. Are you surprised how many food stamp recipients there are in America? Has illegal immigration contributed to this balloon? Sen. Marsha Blackburn joins us to discuss the shutdown, her committee to uncover political left-wing violence, Jack Smith's upcoming revealing admissions in Congressional testimony and more.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Jones Road Beautyhttps://JonesRoadBeauty.comGet a free, Cool Gloss from Jones Road Beauty with your first purchase using code DANA.Bub's Naturalshttps://BubsNaturals.comGet 20% off your order at Bub's Naturals with code DANA. Support the show and tell them Dana sent you.PreBornhttps://Preborn.com/DANAAnswer the call and help save lives—dial  #250 and say “Baby,” or give securely online. Make your gift today.AmmoSquaredhttps://AmmoSquared.comDon't get caught without ammo, and be sure to tell them you heard about Ammo Squared on this show. Keltec- KS7 Gen2https://KelTecWeapons.comKelTec builds every KS7 GEN2 right here in the USA with American materials and workers—upgrade your home defense today. Keltec- Peacekeepers Programhttps://KelTecWeapons.com/DanaThe KelTec Peacekeepers Program supports those who protect our communities.  Learn more at KelTecWeapons.com/Dana today.All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Don't wait until flu season knocks at your door. Use code DANA10 at checkout to save 10%. Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana to receive 10% off Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/DanaDana's personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANAHumanNhttps://HumanN.comStart supporting your cardiovascular health with SuperBeets, now available at your local Walmart.

Dana Loesch reacts to Tucker Carlson's controversial interview with Nick Fuentes. Meanwhile, are you surprised how many food stamp recipients there are in America? Has illegal immigration contributed to this balloon?Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Jones Road Beautyhttps://JonesRoadBeauty.comGet a free, Cool Gloss from Jones Road Beauty with your first purchase using code DANA.Bub's Naturalshttps://BubsNaturals.comGet 20% off your order at Bub's Naturals with code DANA. Support the show and tell them Dana sent you.PreBornhttps://Preborn.com/DANAAnswer the call and help save lives—dial  #250 and say “Baby,” or give securely online. Make your gift today.AmmoSquaredhttps://AmmoSquared.comDon't get caught without ammo, and be sure to tell them you heard about Ammo Squared on this show. Keltec- KS7 Gen2https://KelTecWeapons.comKelTec builds every KS7 GEN2 right here in the USA with American materials and workers—upgrade your home defense today. Keltec- Peacekeepers Programhttps://KelTecWeapons.com/DanaThe KelTec Peacekeepers Program supports those who protect our communities.  Learn more at KelTecWeapons.com/Dana today.All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Don't wait until flu season knocks at your door. Use code DANA10 at checkout to save 10%. Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana to receive 10% off Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/DanaDana's personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANAHumanNhttps://HumanN.comStart supporting your cardiovascular health with SuperBeets, now available at your local Walmart.

Attorney and success strategist Amber Fuhriman joins Lesley for a raw and empowering talk about perfectionism, people-pleasing, and the hidden fear behind our need for clarity. Amber opens up about how achievement became her coping mechanism and how trauma can disguise itself. Together, they unpack toxic positivity, hyper-independence, and what it really means to redefine success on your own terms. You'll walk away with Amber's SOS system to ask for help before burnout hits.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How people-pleasing can quietly sabotage your goals and boundaries.Why success and busyness often mask deeper emotional pain.How “seeking clarity” hides perfectionism and fear of making mistakes.The real cost of toxic positivity and how to embrace hard emotions.How Amber's SOS system helps you stop overthinking and take action.Episode References/Links:Break Your Bullshit Box Facebook Community - https://www.facebook.com/groups/morethancorporateAmber Fuhriman's Website: https://www.successdevelopmentsolutions.com90-Day Success Jumpstart - https://jumpstart.successdevelopmentsolutions.comRory Vaden's TED Talk - https://youtu.be/y2X7c9TUQJ8?si=yV69LFYhwgBlc4zYTiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/0MOylqVGuest Bio:Amber Fuhriman is an attorney, success strategist, and speaker who helps high achievers create success aligned with self-awareness and authenticity. She is a certified Trainer of Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) and uses mindset and communication tools to help clients overcome perfectionism and fear-based decision-making. Amber hosts the Break Your Bullshit Box* podcast, where she leads honest conversations about leadership, mindset, and the courage to live fully. Her work focuses on helping professionals bridge the gap between external achievement and internal fulfillment. Through her coaching and speaking, Amber empowers others to define success on their own terms and take purposeful action toward it. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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We both lost our dads at the age of 18. We both had siblings that we felt like relied on us. There were these things that were identical to who we were, yet I went to law school and he went to jail. He became a drug addict. He has turned his life around now, and he's clean and sober, yet people look at him and they say, you're such a screw up. And people look at me and they say, you're so successful. What they don't realize is we were numbing the same thing. Academic accomplishment was my numbing mechanism. If I did enough, if I focused on something else, then I wouldn't have to feel what I was going through.Lesley Logan 0:49  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:32  All right, Be It babe, get ready. This interview, we go on the best journey. It's so good. The Be It Action Item was great. There's also some really good action steps to take within the interview. Amber Fuhriman is our guest today, and I wanted to have her on because I got to be on her amazing podcast. And I loved her questions so much. I loved her responses. I loved the conversation. I was like, she should be on this show, because if anyone's been being it it till you see it, it's her, and we talk about people pleasing and perfectionism and success. And I just think you're going to have a really great time. I think it's going to be really eye opening. Pay attention to the SOS thing. I think that's a killer. And let me know what your takeaways are. I want to hear about it. So here's Amber Fuhriman. Lesley Logan 2:10  All right, Be It babe. Get ready. I know this is going to be a great conversation, because I've already had the pleasure of meeting this woman on being on her podcast, and we could have gone on for hours. So I just decided, well, let's just continue the conversation over on my podcast. Amber Fuhriman, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Amber Fuhriman 2:27  I'm so excited to be here, and I agree with you. We could have talked forever, and you just meet people. It's crazy we're both in Vegas, because I think our response was, how have we not crossed paths? Like, how is two amazing people that it is fantastic not met before now, so I'm so excited. To sum it up, I'm a recovering perfectionist, a people pleaser that is learning how to not people please. I'm an attorney, a, it's a struggle, man, the struggle bus is big on the people-pleasing train, right? Yeah. I am a attorney, sometimes in recovery, sometimes not. And I do coaching and human behavior and podcasting and all of the things.Lesley Logan 3:05  Oh my gosh. I think everyone their ears perked up when they heard, oh, you're a recovering perfectionist and a recovering people-pleaser. like, hi, who are you, like, we're listening? Because the people-pleasing, looking to start there, it is really hard. And I think it's like, I think some people don't even realize they're people-pleasing. I think that they think they're being kind.Amber Fuhriman 3:24  Yeah. I think that's so true, and I also think we don't, we've never been told to talk about it, because people-pleasing is what we were told we were supposed to be as not even just women. I mean, I do think women have it more than men, but I don't want to exclude men from the conversation of people-pleasing, but I do think that we as women were told that our job is to be there for other people. We are traditionally put into nurturing roles. I remember being the only female attorney at the criminal defense firm I worked at before I started my business, and we had a really sensitive case, and I remember them coming in and saying, Amber, we need you. We need a woman's touch. And I said, you, and you asked me, like, have you not met me? Like, I'm so rough around the edges. If you need somebody that can nurture this poor woman, I should be your last choice. I can look at six men that will do a better nurturing job than I will, but there's this perception that we're just supposed to take care of other people.Lesley Logan 4:20  Yeah, yeah. And it's like, can you, do you know, like, what are, in case people don't know, what are some signs that they are a people-pleaser? Do you have that off the top of your head, like?Amber Fuhriman 4:30  Yeah, I think the one that's coming to my head the most right now is that you care about what somebody else is going to feel about your actions more than you care about what you're going to feel about your actions. So you go to say something or do something, and the first thought you have is, but what will the other person think? And I am, I want to clarify that there's zero part of me that's telling you to go around being an asshole, just for the purposes of being an asshole, but if your authentic self and you speaking your truth and who you are, is going to piss somebody else off, then let them fucking be pissed.Lesley Logan 5:05  Oh, okay, so here, my mind went so many places, because one of the things that, we coach Pilates studio owners a lot, and so we're small business owners, and, like, also just in life, go out, and I like talking to small business owners, and it is amazing how many people, like, don't want to change their policies, don't want to charge for a late cancelation and won't raise their rates because they are so concerned with how it's going to affect the other person that it's actually affecting their business from making the money it needs to make for them to stay in business. And it's like to your point, of course, I'm not an asshole who doesn't care how they feel, and I don't want to lose them as a client. But also, if I don't make enough money doing this, when I am working with clients, they are taking a spot from someone who could pay me so that I can actually provide for my family, so I cannot put their feelings so far ahead that I'm actually suffering.Amber Fuhriman 5:53  Yeah, and I don't think we think about it that much right, like if I am speaking my truth and I'm being me, and I'm being authentic to who I am, and that upsets somebody, and I think, oh my gosh, I can't say that, because they're going to be upset. Are they putting the same thought process into whether they're asking me to be somebody different than who I am? Right? Why is it that we are the ones that have to adjust and and I know this is going to trigger some people out there, so you're welcome and I love you, because the reality is one of my favorite sayings is that your actions are all about you, and their responses are all about them. So whenever I have somebody who responds emotionally to something that I'm doing, the first question I ask myself is, were the actions that I took in alignment with who I want to be as a human being. Do I need to adjust something? Are they rightfully upset? Did I act out of alignment with who I am? If I did, then I have some apologies to make. I have some internal work to do. I have some questions to ask, but if I can look back and say I am 100% congruent with the actions that I took, and yes, I want to repair this relationship, and I will be there for you when you're ready to have a conversation, but I will not apologize when I am 100% in alignment with my actions. This is a conversation you get to understand and accept me for who I am, or don't accept me, and it is a beautiful place to get to, but it's not easy. Lesley Logan 7:17  Yeah, thank you for clarifying, like how you can self-reflect, to just address and also double check what you're doing. Because I think especially if you are trying to not people-please as much, you're going to need that set of tools to help you get there, because you're going to have people who get pissed off. The first people who get pissed off are your close family and friends who will get that's who you're people-pleasing for so many years are not going to like when you start acting different.Amber Fuhriman 7:43  Yeah and I think family and friends is the hardest, because they're going to support you the least by nature, which is not all their fault. It's human behavior, right? We exist. So for the people that are listening, there's this term that I love in NLP, called perception is projection. And basically what that means is we project all of the things about ourselves out onto the world. So everybody that we come in contact with is meant to teach us a lesson, positive or constructive about ourselves, right? So we can only see the world as we are. So when we start making positive changes in our life, when we start becoming the next version of who we are. We are fucking with the perception that our friends and family have held of us for a really long time, and that messes with their identity, because now they're faced with, do I level up or do I stay and leveling up takes courage and getting out of a comfort zone and something that not everybody's ready to do. So when they're faced with that choice, sometimes it's easier for them to try to convince you not to change than it is for them to face their own bullshit of whether or not they're going to be willing to join you.Lesley Logan 8:54  Oh my gosh. Everyone rewind. Hear that one more time. It was so good. It's so good. We can keep going on this path. But I also wanted to say, like, maybe let's go on a journey with you. You like, have you always wanted to be a coach? Did you always want to, like, dive into helping people with success and things like that? Or was like being an attorney, like the thing you wanted to do? Like, what's the journey that got you to where you are today, podcasting and helping people like you do?Amber Fuhriman 9:18  Yeah, the answer is neither. So I will say that going to law school was a trauma response for me, and because it was a trauma response, the question I hated the most was, what made you decide to go to law school, or why did you go to law school? Because I never had an answer. For me, I grew up in, I was born in the '80s, grew up in the late '80s, early '90s. So I say that because that period of time, for those of us who were raised there, we were taught that we put in enough hard work and there was this level of payout that's gonna come at the end, right?.Lesley Logan 9:50  Oh yes, yes, you work hard and you're going to get rewarded, also. Amber Fuhriman 9:54  Hard work pays off, I fucking hate that phrase. Lesley Logan 9:56  If you add that, if you add a layer of religion in there, the same thing, like, there's a lot of gold at the end of all of this for the people who do everything perfectly right, and work harder than yesterday. And you know what? Also, also, you should do 110% at work just to prove that you deserve the paycheck you're getting, and then be happy that they didn't fire you and not give you, like, like, all these different things. But anyways, keep going.Amber Fuhriman 10:24  Yeah, yeah, no. So, so you get it. And then the second part of what I'm about to share is the reality that we often say what it is we want to have, but we don't articulate the reason those things are important to us. And so we never understand and get to make the connection of whether what we think we want is actually going to bring the payout that we think it's going to bring. So let me bring this down a little bit for you. So I grew up in the world where money equaled success, success equaled happiness, and I was in so much pain. So I talk about this in my book, when I decided to go to therapy in 2016 and decided is an overstatement, when I was suffering from panic attacks and had no choice but to go to therapy because I couldn't breathe, in 2016 it was the first time I had ever heard the term abandonment disorder. I didn't know what that meant. And then I started looking back at my life, and I started experiencing death for the first time at the age of seven. My cousin, I had two suicides in my family before the age of 14. My dad died when I was 18. Like our brains don't comprehend that somebody died. They just comprehend that somebody's gone, right? So for me, I was just so used to people leaving me that it created this belief that people aren't going to stick around, and I've got to be super hyper independent, along with that, after my dad passed away, when I went to a grief counselor for the first time, the first thing they did was try to put me on antidepressants. And I never wanted to be medicated, so in my brain, that connected if I talk to anybody about not being okay, they're going to medicate me, and I don't want that, so I just pretended I was good, until I couldn't pretend anymore. After my dad passed away, I failed out of undergrad. I was the first person in my family to go to college. I really struggled with this idea of grief and success at the same time. So when I was at my rock bottom, I thought, something's got to change. I've always loved legal thrillers. I fell into the trap of thinking that life as an attorney was a John Grisham book, which it is, sadly not. My dad and I talked about me going to going to law school. He thought I'd really like it. He was no longer here, so it was kind of a connection to him. But most importantly, it's the only way I knew to make six figures, and that money equals success. Success equals happiness. Happy people don't feel pain. So in 2016 after I'd gone to law school, I'd made my first six figure income. I had the respect in my profession, and I still hurt. I didn't know how to breathe, and that's when my panic attacks started. It was learning the human behavior behind choices, healing from my own choices, uncovering and dealing with the masks that I put on throughout my whole life as I saw the benefits of that. That's when coaching kind of opened its doors to me.Lesley Logan 13:22  Wow, thank you for that whole journey. And I think I can, I don't, I don't have, I didn't have the grief part of it in my childhood, but I definitely had the hyper independence, like, you know, I, I, there's pictures of me as a little girl, like, making my own breakfast, because my dad was, like, very into, like, build a bit, like, you have to be able to take care of yourself. And like, so like, as a three year old, like, the bowl of cereal was poured and the milk was in the fridge, and I had to grab the milk from the fridge, it's already poured in a cup for me to fill my bowl. And, like, I love the independence it taught, but also, layered with that whole, and my parents for good reason, like, they live in a small town. They do not have money. So if they're like, if you want to have a life that's not like this, you have to go to college, because college is going to guarantee a paycheck.Amber Fuhriman 14:12  It's so comical now, right?Lesley Logan 14:13  It guaranteed a lot of student loans. I'm glad, of course, I'm glad I went. I would not be here today had I not gone on that journey, because I don't believe anything happens without happening for us, but because I'm but I did laugh as like in the 2008 recession, when I was a full time Pilates instructor that is not why I went to school for, and I was like, well, this $700 month student loan bill sucks, but I wouldn't have found a Pilates had I not been there. So, like, all these different things happen for the way they go. But it took me a really long time, and I'm still learning today, it's probably the thing, the hardest thing I'll ever have to learn is like, I cannot do it all alone. So I'm constantly thanking my team. I'm constantly thinking, my team. I have to remind myself, my team. And then when things go wrong, I have to the my first reaction is like, I could have done it better, and I have to go, no, I could have explained it better. I could have, maybe I could reflect back and see where I could have checked things more. I could have. But, like, I that hyper independence is a really hard thing, I think for a lot of women, because what they do is they just do everything themselves, and then they're burnt out and they're pissed off, and they'are resentful. Amber Fuhriman 15:19  Yeah. Yeah. And I think so when you say I could have done it better, you're saying you could have done it better than the team or better than. Lesley Logan 15:26  Myself. I could have done it better myself. Amber Fuhriman 15:27  You could have done it better yourself. Lesley Logan 15:28  Yeah, which is not true, because I can't even do, I can't even like, do technology myself, so.Amber Fuhriman 15:34  Right. And I fall into that often. And the reason I asked for clarification was because I wanted to make sure I understood what you meant. And maybe we could have, right, done it better, but we can do it better once, and then they get to be better at it by doing it over and over again. But I think more importantly, have you ever heard Rory Vaden's TED Talk, Procrastinate on Purpose? Lesley Logan 15:56  Yes, yes. Amber Fuhriman 15:57  Oh my gosh. I love this so much. And one of the things that he says in there that really sticks with me is by saying yes to one thing, you're saying no to an infinite amount of other things that you don't even know yet. So when we say I could have done that thing better, maybe that's true, but what is the thing that we actually did better that we wouldn't have been able to do had we focused on that thing that we might have done better? Right?Lesley Logan 16:20  Yeah, yeah. I think that's so good. And I think, like, we, I, we all have our things that we are overcoming. And like, it'll think you, you're in the coaching world, so, like, maybe you can address this. I think the perfectionist in us, and in all the people listening, is that, like, we should get over it. And I've determined, or come to some comfort thinking that, like, nothing you're ever over it, you just get quicker at identifying that you're in it and that you have to deal with it. Amber Fuhriman 16:49  What is it, the perfectionism? Lesley Logan 16:51  The perfectionism or the thing that you're like, whatever your whatever your trigger is, so like, the hyper independence, or the people-pleasing, or it's not that you're like, you just like, overcome it and it's behind you and you'll never do it again. It's like, I think that, like, it still comes up in different levels or different ways, and you have to go, oh, I recognize it a little sooner. Like, instead of it taking days for me to get over it, like, whatever it is, like, I it takes me an hour, or takes me five minutes, I go, oh, that's me falling into that trap again.Amber Fuhriman 17:20  Yeah, I think it's so important to focus on that, because one of the things that we do in our trainings is we help people with some emotion-related conversations, which is basically every conversation we're ever going to have in life. So when we think about some of these perfectionism and people-pleasing and even overthinking or lack of delegation, or whatever the behavior is, usually that is tied to some emotional response that's usually tied to anger, sadness, fear, hurt or guilt, which are five major emotions. Normally when we're talking about what, what the purpose is of these behaviors, we can tie it back to one of those five emotions. So as we do the emotion work, the behaviors start to shift, and one of the biggest ones is fear, right? I'll ask people, what's the purpose of not delegating? Well, I'm afraid it won't get done as good if I do it, or I'm afraid like somebody will see it and it won't be mine, and then that'll trigger this imposter, or whatever it is, right? So when we're talking about this, understanding what we're actually feeling when we experience those behaviors is so incredibly important, so we can deal with those emotions, but I think also being able to tap into what the purpose of those behaviors are. So whenever somebody that I'm working with has a behavior like perfectionism or lack of delegation, or whatever the it is, I'll ask them, what's the purpose of this? And they're like, well, it doesn't serve a purpose. And my response is always, it must, or else you wouldn't do it, because every behavior has an intention. So what is it that you're gaining or avoiding by doing these behaviors, because that's where the real work is done.Lesley Logan 19:03  This, as a habits coach that's the same thing, like BJ Fogg, who I study with, he said there's no such thing as a bad habit, because every habit serves you. If you don't like a habit that you have, that's okay, but there's no there's they're not good or bad. It's just, like they all either they're providing certainty or safety or there's a actual positive feeling you're getting from it in your brain, even if you don't like that you do. If you don't like that, you scroll. There's something that you're getting that's a dopamine hit that your brain is like, this makes me feel good. Now, to unravel that, we have to figure out what the prompt is, and we have to figure out, you know, how do we get that same, a similar feeling with something else that you actually do want? But I, thank you for (inaudible) that journey. Can I ask, like, I think, like something that stuck out, and we don't have to talk about this, if you don't want to, but like, you mentioned that like going to law school is like a trauma response. I feel like most people wouldn't think that like going and taking yourself to school would be a trauma response. I guess I'm wondering, like, what are, what are some trauma responses that people might not realize that, like, that's a trauma response they'd be doing. Like, can we talk a little about trauma responses?Amber Fuhriman 20:06  Yeah, absolutely. And I'm an open book, so I will go anywhere you want to go. So let me give an example. This is when I started to realize that it was kind of a trauma response. I have a really good friend of mine that I did a podcast interview with about four years ago, when I first, first started my podcast, he's one of the first people that I met in the personal development space, and one of the reasons we connected is because we had so many similarities in our life. So if you took away our names and our identities and our genders, and you looked at just the dots that were important to our identity, we both had a history of suicide in our family. We both lost our dads at the age of 18. We both had siblings that we felt like relied on us. There were these things that were identical to who we were, yet I went to law school and he went to jail. He became a drug addict. He has turned his life around now, and he's clean and sober, yet people look at him and they say you're such a screw up, and people look at me and they say you're so successful. What they don't realize is we were numbing the same thing. Academic accomplishment was my numbing mechanism. If I did enough, if I focused on something else, then I wouldn't have to feel what I was going through. And I think that we fall into this trap of thinking that because our and I'm really careful when I compare this, because our addiction is socially acceptable. We convince ourselves that it's healthy, right? But it's not. We're still numbing. If you're I mean, obstacle course racing that I did for a really long time was a numbing mechanism for me when law school didn't work. At some point in time, we get to feel the feels. At some point in time, we get to just be human and be enough without feeling like we need to be or do or become something more when we feel that way, when we feel like I am enough right now, then the things that we want to do and become become additional exciting opportunities for us, instead of the thing that is going to fix us or heal us. And I think that's the difference. So when we, when I look at law school as a trauma response, the only reason I can say that it was one is because I didn't go to law school because I wanted to go to law school. I went to law school because it was supposed to fix or stop the pain of something, and anytime we do one thing because it's supposed to make us not hurt, I think that there's some trauma in there, and that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It just means that we get to take it for what it is.Lesley Logan 22:46  Yeah, I think, my yoga teacher was I interviewed on my podcast, and his he was talking about, like, everyone's label things as good and or and bad. And he's like, that's just not really how it works. He's like, you can't have happiness without sadness. You can't, like, all these things have to exist for you to feel happy. You have to have felt pain. Like, that's the only way you can do it, which I think is really interesting, that we were taught like, success equals happiness and happy people don't feel pain. That's not true. But he also said, like, you know, in our society, we tend to think, oh, someone who drinks wine at the end of the night is numbing, and that's bad. But actually, like, there's been a lot of people who have even said like Mindy Pells, he said it there's someone else who's like, if that glass of wine helps you relax after a hard day and allows you to connect with your family, allows you to talk to them and to be fun, it might not be bad. Now, if it's you're doing it every night, too numb from the pain of work and also ignore your family, then it's not really serving you. Then it's so like, we do have responses to things, and as long as we're evaluating like, how is this actually serving us? Is it serving us? Is it actually serving the people that we say we love? Then we can't we need to stop being so hard on ourselves about some of the things that we're doing and that some things that we might not deem healthy aren't really healthy. Because I actually really liked that you told that story. You know, I have a real, after living in L.A. and living around unhoused people for as long as I did, just it's really, it's like nails on a chalkboard when someone says that they're lazy, why don't they go get help? Why don't they use resources? And it's just like we have no idea what their life was that led them here. Most people who are mentally healthy do not choose to live on the streets. You know, like, most people.Amber Fuhriman 24:27  And only that, like, I love that we went here, and I'm gonna piss some people off here in just a minute. So remember, you love me. I just did a keynote in Nashville in March, and my keynote is, every victim needs a villain, and it's so easy for us to look at people who live on the street as being a victim and be the person that's like, why don't you do this, or, why don't you do this? What about the person that wakes up pissed off at their job every single day and doesn't take control of their life? What about the person that wakes up and doesn't run their business the way that they want to do or that they could in order to make more money? What about the person that wakes up without good relationships with their family and then allows those relationships to destroy them inside? Because they have a roof over their head, doesn't mean that they're any less of a victim than anybody else. So we get to sit back and say, yeah, it's really easy for us to sit here and judge this type of victim, because we can look at them and we can identify that they are not societally acceptable. But your type of victim, whatever it is you're a victim of, because I promise you, every single person is a victim of something. It's a lot less easy for us to look internally and say what am I not taking control of in my own life?Lesley Logan 25:40  Yeah, Gosh, what a great TED Talk. And also, like, I think, like, what came to my mind is, like, a lot of people are like, well, my problems aren't as bad as so it's not that big a deal.Amber Fuhriman 25:50  And that works double sorted wise, right? Yeah, because, number one, my problems aren't as bad as this, so I don't need to deal with them. It's really unfortunate because the person who is living unhoused didn't wake up one day and live unhoused. There were not that bad problems that started it right. But second of all, the other side of that is when it comes time to become something great we also use that to say, well, my life didn't have the transforming moments because my problems weren't that bad, so I don't have anything to share with the world. So we get to just stop comparing ourselves in general, and say there's this thing that I don't like about what's going on right now, and regardless of whether somebody else has it worse, I still get to deal with this thing. And I want to tangent just a little bit, because you mentioned something earlier that I want to make sure that we dig into, which is the success happiness thing and it's toxic.Lesley Logan 26:46  You're reading my mind. Yeah, we're going here next.Amber Fuhriman 26:50  Toxic happiness and toxic positivity culture that some people live in, like I absolutely despise affirmations, the way that they are traditionally taught, which is stand in front of a mirror and tell yourself you're pretty until you believe it. Because this fake it till you make it mentality doesn't work. And if I don't think that I have self-worth, and I don't think I'm pretty, and I don't think like that I'm capable of whatever, then standing in front of a mirror and lying to myself about it isn't going to do a goddamn thing, except for convince myself I'm a liar, right, right? Lesley Logan 27:21  Well, the brain doesn't like distance, so you can't, that's why this is not called fake it till you make it, right, like, that's. Amber Fuhriman 27:26  Yeah, which I love. I love. So we get to pay attention to what that voice is. When you stand in front of a mirror and you say, I can have a seven figure business. I can have an eight figure business. What does that voice tell you? Because instead of just telling that voice it's wrong. We get to understand where does that voice's beliefs come from, and heal whatever that is that makes us believe that. So, and I'm not saying like so, the best way that I've ever seen affirmations done is to say this is who this is what I want to accomplish. This is who I need to be in order to accomplish it, and this is who I think I am now, so that you can see the gap between them to become it, and then your affirmations become things about yourself that you are in control of, that you are committed to being in order to level up to that next step of your life. So that's the first side. The other side is this toxic positivity and happiness. Like, if somebody else looks at me and says just think happy thoughts. I'm going to shove them through a glass window. Like, so I want people to hear this, because especially in the clickbait side of personal development, there's like, just feel better about yourself. Yeah, that's great. Like, thanks for the million dollar advice. Lesley Logan 28:38  It's like when someone says, well, you know, calm down. It's like the same, the same visceral response happens, I think, like, there, as we know, as you and I know, on the other side of things, yes, you can always look back on a rear view mirror and go, that shitty situation was a great thing to help me pivot. But while you're in the shitty situation, what you don't need to hear is just think happy thoughts. This is going to be great, like this is no no one needs to hear that from you. They can come up with that themselves, but at first they do have to feel the feelings of the shitty situation.Amber Fuhriman 29:16  Yeah and when I hear that, so the one for me that really resonates, and the reason I laughed is because when I was suffering from panic attacks, I would love it when people would say, Amber, just breathe. And I'm like, have you ever had a panic attack? I'm telling you, that's what I'm not capable of doing right now. Like, I would love to just breathe. You make it sound so simple. I like it takes every thought that I have in every ounce of focus to get air in my lungs right now. So just breathing doesn't seem as easy as you make it sound, but I think the other side of this just think happy thoughts, comment that you made is it makes us feel like we're doing something wrong, or that we are wrong because we're not okay. And it is okay to not be okay, it's just not okay to stay not okay, right? I got a. Water bottle at a conference I went to once that said nobody drowned by falling in the water. They drowned by staying there. So like we get to acknowledge like I'm not okay right now, how long am I going to allow myself to not be okay, and where do I need to be and who do I need to be around in order to be okay? So in this, in this vein, I encourage all of my clients to create an SOS list. And I actually encourage them, if they have an iPhone, to go into their text replacement and come up with an SOS phrase and replace SOS with their SOS phrase. So for example, mine is, I'm stuck at the airport because my so my SOS moments are normally overthinking. And I remember talking to a good friend of mine, and I was venting about what direction I was going to take my business. And I was tired of constantly feeling like I was having the same conversations about growth and not taking action and all the bullshit. And I said you know what I feel like? I said, I feel like I'm stuck at the airport. And she says what do you mean by that? And I said, I feel like somebody has given me an all expense golden ticket, paid vacation to anywhere that I want to go in the world. All I have to do is pick the plane that I'm going to get on. But instead of actually choosing a plane, I'm standing in front of the departures board looking at which one that I want to do, over analyzing every decision, and then I become Tom Hanks living in an airport, right? So for me, any choice I made would be a better choice than what I'm doing right now, but I'm so overthinking it that I can't express what I want. So I think that what's important is when we're in those moments we are sometimes so in our thoughts that we don't know how to ask for help. So if you have that close knit group of friends that you can say you are on my SOS list. If I text you and say I'm stuck at an airport, I am in my shit. So whatever your phrase is, what you'll find, and what's beautiful is that the moment you send that message, your brain knows that it's okay and you will normally have the answers that you're looking for before they even call you back. It's that decision to ask for help that allows your brain to say, okay, now I can see solutions. So if you if you find yourself in those places, pick two or three people, reach out to them, get their permission, I'm going to put you on what's called My SOS list. This is my SOS phrase. This is what it means to me. If I ever send this to you, it just means that in that moment, I really need somebody to check on me because I don't know how to ask for help.Lesley Logan 32:32  Oh, my god, that is so good. And I love that so much, because it makes me think of like Brené Brown said, like, I have five people. I have a name of five people in my life whose opinions of me matter, and they know that their opinions may matter, and if I have bad feedback or something comes up, I look at that list and it's like, okay, well, they're they're not my five person list. So who are they? So it makes me think of that. It's like having these lists of people that can help us, because it is, it is hard to fall in the water, not judge yourself for falling in the water, not get frustrated that you're back in the water and then, and then you're like, okay, I get to feel my feelings, and then somehow it gets becomes a habit, and you're still in the water, right? Like, so I really do like that like, we get to fall in the water, we can actually feel these feelings, and then when we're ready to get up and ask, like, we have a way of asking for help, which isn't like, I need help right now, because that is so the recovering perfectionist in the world, like that is like you that's like a that's a four letter word is I need (inaudible). Amber Fuhriman 33:30  Yes. Well, because a lot of this perfectionist thing comes from, you know, everybody's different, so I hate lumping behavioral traits into this is where they come from, but I've seen some trends, and a lot of it comes from believing that we had to be something in order to be valued and loved and worthy of connection, right? That just ourselves wasn't, so if we are imperfect, that means that we're unlovable, and I find that there's a lot of that connection between perfection end. And then the other thing that I love right now is the word clarity, that, because I see that everywhere, and I remember my coach telling me. Lesley Logan 34:10  (inaudible) having an authentic moment, clarity is. Amber Fuhriman 34:12  Yeah, yeah. Like my coach kept saying, so when are you going to take action? And I said, I just need some clarity. Just need some clarity. And I didn't realize how much I said it, and I'll never forget her telling me, Amber, you realize clarity is just the word perfectionist used to not use the word perfection. I'm like, I hate you right now, and I love you.Lesley Logan 34:29  I have a coach who said certainty is perfection in disguise. I'm like, fuck you. You're right. Like, like, I need it. Amber Fuhriman 34:39  I hate it when you're right. Lesley Logan 34:41  Yeah. You're like, I know that. I knew that. Amber Fuhriman 34:44  So, there's this, there's this video. This is what I feel like when I talk to my coach sometimes, there's this video of a little boy. I'll have to send it to you, and you can put it in the show notes. It's hilarious. A little boy, and you know those slides that we grew up with, like, not the safe ones that kids have today, but the metal ones that you were either going to burn your ass on when you go down, or you were going to end up bruised because you went so fast that you hit the gravel. Yeah, we didn't have those soft, padded, black, safe surfaces that kids get now. So I was watching a video of this little, maybe six year old boy, and he's walking towards this death slide that we grew up with, and he's carrying a blue toboggan behind him, and you can see that in his little six year old boy brain, he's going to climb up the stairs of the slide and ride the toboggan down this metal death slide. And his mom's videoing, and I love this so much, because his mom says, if you're going to be stupid, you better be tough. And his response is, I know you told me that lots of days. And so like I feel like every single time my coach says something to me that makes sense, I'm like, you tell me this all the time. I know I'm still going to take my blue toboggan up my death slide and figure out how this works in my own damn choices. And then you and I are going to figure out how to fix the outcome, right?Lesley Logan 36:07  Oh, my god, please send it. We have to link it. And also it's, it's, well, I mean, so as applied instructor, I was teaching someone in my group who's in my mentorship program who's trying to up level her teaching, and I was giving her some breakfast, like, I know, but like, I should be able to do it by now. And I'm like, okay, hold on. Like, I know that you know what the exercise is supposed to look like. I know that you've been doing this for years, and you, your body has been able to cheat its way through this. And I also know that you signed up to no longer do that. The problem is that your body wants to do the easiest thing, because it's just that's it's trained to conserve calories. It's literally trained to conserve calories. So we know that the new way, the better way, the more the stronger way, the more connected way is better. But to rewire our brain to do it that way, to do it that way is going to take more calories. So our body wants to do the easiest way. And I think, like us, you know, use clarity or certainty or have these other the perfectionist person of us is like, okay, I'm not. I'm going to work on being imperfect. And then our brain's like, oh, look at this thing over here. This is a great way to, like, hide out and take notice, because it's harder, it's more calorie-consuming. It's more awareness. It requires more thought to actually not like, to actually live in that imperfect place, and like be willing to make a mistake or be willing to get on the wrong flight, or be it requires more calories. So our brains and bodies are very good at sneaking around and taking shortcuts.Amber Fuhriman 37:41  Yeah, I love it. And one of the things that's coming to my mind right now, and I think I'm going to go do this. I've never done it before, and I think I'm going to, and I would encourage some of your listeners to do it and let me know how it goes. I want to leave my house without a plan one day, and I just want to, like, find out where I end up. And maybe, since we're both in Vegas, we can leave our houses without a plan together and just figure out what choices present themselves to us and where we end up when we don't have a expectation of how our day is going to turn out.Lesley Logan 38:12  Okay, we're, we're setting a date to do this. I have three months in town, so let's set a date where we do this, and then, and then we'll have a date the next day to talk about it.Amber Fuhriman 38:21  To talk about it, right, like, what opportunities do we miss? And I'm not telling people they shouldn't plan like my my schedule is like, completely planned out because it's important to but I also think that every now and then we need days where we just figure out where we would end up if we didn't have expectations about what the day would look like, what would we say yes to, and what opportunities do we miss when we're so focused on something else?Lesley Logan 38:46  Because, I mean, like when we go on vacation, some people can't have a vacation day that's not over planned. My husband, I went on vacation earlier this year after our big tour. Our tour was 8000 miles, like 22 cities, 47 events. Like every day is planned out. Otherwise we don't make it on the tour on time. So we have a vacation that's planned after every tour. And I took him to this hotel I love, and we literally laid by the pool, and I got so I read two books, and I got so bored. I was okay, I'm really bored now. It'd be a good time for us to, like, do something else. And he's like, what do you want to do? I'm like, I don't know. Why don't we just drive into town and see what we see. And like, had the best time wandering around a town, you know. But like, like, we do this when we're on vacations, ideally, you relax and you have but like, we don't ever do it like, on a on a day that normally we planned out or in our own towns. It makes me think of artist dates I'm in. I love it.Amber Fuhriman 39:35  Yeah, let's do it. I also want to share for those of like, because we've talked so much about perfection, I love, and I would encourage, if your listeners are artistic, they can they can do this, or they can go, like, find a picture on the internet. But whenever a friend of mine or a client of mine talks to me about perfection, I'll ask them to introduce me to their unicorn, and they'll be like, what are you talking about? And I said, Well, if we're gonna talk talk about things that don't exist, then we might as well talk about unicorns, right? So, like, just think about, like, we would never say, I can't go do something today because I have to take care of my unicorn. Everybody would be like, that is out, like, that's so dumb. Like, unicorns don't exist. Exactly, exactly, my friend.Lesley Logan 40:20  Okay, I have one more question, because I would love, I mean, I get, I feel like I get this asked all the time, and we brought up success, enough like, how, how do you define success now? Because I'm assuming it's changed since it's no longer get rich to be happy and not feel pain.Amber Fuhriman 40:38  Yes, it has absolutely changed. Yeah, freedom, which I know really isn't a definition. I love when people define words with other non-definable words. So I'll go a little bit deeper on that. For me, I love knowing that if I wanted to pick up and go to Nashville for a month, I can pick up and go to Nashville for a month if I have a friend who needs me, or if my family needs me, I my uncle passed away, or, I'm sorry, my cousin passed away in August, and I was able to just go stay with my aunt for I call him my uncle. This is why it's so hard. They're so much older than me. But either way, I was supposed I was able to go stay with his wife for a little bit and not have to worry about work, because I could travel so location, freedom and independence is so incredibly important to me, and then feeling like I'm in control, you know, not necessarily not having responsibilities. One of my coaches quotes that I steal from her all the time, so I'll give her credit, is choices of powerful things, suffering is always optional. So when I step back and I say, whatever happened today, I was in complete control of my choices in how I spent my day. So if I am not happy with the way my time was spent, then I get to look at my choices to determine how I'm going to avoid repeating that again in the future, where did I spend time that I didn't want to spend time? So time and location freedom is my definition of success right now. Lesley Logan 42:08  I do love that. I do love that. Okay, well, we could obviously talk for hours. We're gonna take a brief break, and then we're gonna find out how people can find you, follow you, work with you. Amber Fuhriman 42:15  Sounds good. Lesley Logan 42:16  All right, Amber, where'd you like to hang out? Where are all the places people can hear your amazing words of wisdom more.Amber Fuhriman 42:24  So first of all, the I have a free Facebook group, which we are revitalizing. It's been pretty dormant for a while, and I'm committed to changing that. So if you want to be a part of that revitalization, called the Break Your Bullshit Box Community on Facebook, so you can go check that out there, other than that, socials and the book and all of that stuff is on my website, at successdevelopmentsolutions.com.Lesley Logan 42:49  Amazing, amazing. Okay, you have actually given us so much. There's a few things I'm like, well, that's a Be It Action Item. Well, that's a Be It Action Item. But for the for the bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it, what do you have for us? You can take from what we've already gone over, or you can add more. Amber Fuhriman 43:04  Yeah, so I think the first thing that I would say is, if any of your listeners are interested in taking that next step, I do have an online 90-Day Success Jumpstart Training that starts to get you into some really actionable steps. So if they're interested in that, they can go to jumpstart.successdevelopmentsolutions.com. The actionable piece that I really want to leave people with is an understanding that you have complete control, like you make decisions every single day, whether you realize you make decisions and if there is anything that you are not 100% happy with in your life, then we get to dig into what decisions you're making to create that, because avoiding making a decision is still a decision. So what choices are you making? And how can we make different choices? So that's the actionable piece I would leave them with. Lesley Logan 43:54  Love, love, love. Amber, so fun. Okay, we have a date to make about our unplanned day, and then also a date just to be in person. You're wonderful, amazing. You guys, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Share this with that people pleasing friend who doesn't realize that they are. They won't know that we told them to do that until they get to this part. And then, yes, that was for you. And make sure that you share any takeaways with Amber or the Be It Pod. We want to hear from you. We want to hear what your takeaways are. And until next time, you know what to do, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 44:23  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 45:06  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 45:10  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 45:15  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 45:21  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 45:25  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Welcome Natties to episode 110 “Fast Food Horrorthon” Joining us is our guest Lucynthia, come dive in as we talk about a wild Fast Food Marathon challenge, a past challenge Uncle Kyle took on in an early episode, Lucynthia's channel “Music with Lu”, Will Smith chaos, Drake vs Lamar beef, Halloween horror movie top 3, a hilarious Bad Impression and so much more! Remember to please like, comment and subscribe! Are you a part of THE Natty Nation? What are you waiting for hit subscribe!Natties we officially have MERCH! Support us and the podcast by ordering on our website www.thenaturalspod.com Thank you!Go check out and subscribe to Music with LuSocialsLucynthia: @lucynthiaentUncle Kyle/Pod: @thenaturalspodSweet Derek: @sweetderekproductionsEmail: sweetderekproductions@gmail.com

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Benefits for SNAP recipients are set to expire during the second longest government shutdown in US history. The Indian illegal alien truck driver who was charged with killing 3 in a DUI crash in Ontario on Tuesday, has a California CDL. Zohran Mamdani claims his aunt stopped taking the subway after 9/11 because she “did not feel safe in her hijab”. Do you remember when his dad said “America is the root of all evil”? Dana reacts to “The Poltergiest” house in Simi Valley being available on Airbnb. Gavin Newsom went on the “All The Smoke” podcast and debuted a new accent, fabricated a backstory claiming he was so poor while growing up that he had to eat bread and mac and cheese just to pay the bills. Townhall Columnist Michael Hout joins us to break down his piece, “Calling Out the Cancer Within the Right”, including the infighting, Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories, Israel and more. Zohran Mamdani says the quiet part out loud by stating, “It is the government's job to deliver dignity”. Dana rejects the narrative that “conservatism is dead”. Gavin Newsom claims “anti-woke” is racist because it's just “anti-Black”. Dana reacts to a musical called “Slam Frank” centering on Anne Frank seen through the lens of intersectional multi-ethnic genderqueer and Afro-Latin hip-hop.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Jones Road Beautyhttps://JonesRoadBeauty.comGet a free, Cool Gloss from Jones Road Beauty with your first purchase using code DANA.Bub's Naturalshttps://BubsNaturals.comGet 20% off your order at Bub's Naturals with code DANA. Support the show and tell them Dana sent you.PreBornhttps://Preborn.com/DANAAnswer the call and help save lives—dial  #250 and say “Baby,” or give securely online. Make your gift today.AmmoSquaredhttps://AmmoSquared.comDon't get caught without ammo, and be sure to tell them you heard about Ammo Squared on this show. Keltec- KS7 Gen2https://KelTecWeapons.comKelTec builds every KS7 GEN2 right here in the USA with American materials and workers—upgrade your home defense today. Keltec- Peacekeepers Programhttps://KelTecWeapons.com/DanaThe KelTec Peacekeepers Program supports those who protect our communities.  Learn more at KelTecWeapons.com/Dana today.All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Don't wait until flu season knocks at your door. Use code DANA10 at checkout to save 10%. Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaGet your hands on the new compact Byrna CL. Visit Byrna.com/Dana to receive 10% off Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/DanaDana's personal cell phone provider is Patriot Mobile. Get a FREE MONTH of service code DANAHumanNhttps://HumanN.comStart supporting your cardiovascular health with SuperBeets, now available at your local Walmart.

#899: Join us as we sit down with Carly Kremer – beekeeper, mother, & the founder of Beekeeper's Naturals. What began as Carly's personal quest to heal her body after battling autoimmune issues evolved into a full-blown mission to harness the powerful, science-backed healing potential of the hive. In this episode, Carly dives deep into the world of bees – breaking down the real benefits of propolis, royal jelly, and bee venom, and how these natural ingredients can supercharge your immunity, brain function, and overall wellness. She also reveals the truth behind traditional medicine vs. bee-based healing, shares ethical beekeeping practices, and explains how tapping into the wisdom of the hive can transform your health from the inside out!    To Watch the Show click HERE   To Listen to Episode #347 with Carly Kremer click HERE    For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Carley Kramer click HERE   To connect with Beekeeper's Naturals click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at +1 (512) 537-7194.   To Shop Beekeeper's Naturals visit http://beekeepersnaturals.com/SKINNY and use code SKINNY for 20% off your order.    Visit http://c1p.org to donate to the Community First Project, a mission to make communities safer by ensuring the quality & integrity of our nation's law enforcement agencies.   This episode is sponsored by Hiya Health Receive 50% off your first order. To claim this deal you must go to http://hiyahealth.com/SKINNY.    This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp Give online therapy a try at http://betterhelp.com/SKINNY and get on your way to being your best self.   This episode is sponsored by HERS Visit http://forhers.com/skinny to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you.   This episode is sponsored by Wayfair Get organized, refreshed, and ready for the holidays for way less. Head to http://Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home.   This episode is sponsored by The RealReal Get an extra $100 site credit when you sell for the first time on http://TheRealReal.com/skinny.   This episode is sponsored by Superpower Head to http://Superpower.com to learn more and lock in the special $199 price while it lasts.   This episode is sponsored by Little Spoon Get 50% off your first online order at http://littlespoon.com/SKINNY with code SKINNY at checkout. This episode is sponsored by Cozy Earth Head to http://cozyearth.com and use my code SKINNY for up to 20% off sitewide!   Produced by Dear Media

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Lesley Logan is back home with a heartfelt reminder to celebrate every part of the journey — even the messy middle. She shares a clever modern-day safety hack that helps women feel more secure when ridesharing, celebrates eLevator Christine Ivy's progress in her Pilates studies, and checks off her own bucket list moment in Singapore. Tune in for a joyful reset that proves every season holds a blessing.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The rideshare audio project helping women feel safer on the go.Why celebrating your progress keeps you consistent through the learning process.The excitement of checking off a long-awaited bucket list in Singapore.How noticing small daily wins shifts your focus from stress to gratitude.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsCambodia Retreats Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comJoshua Summerfield Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/p/DGRSnnBTJe6FernGully: The Last Rainforest - https://beitpod.com/aboutferngully If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:44  All right, Be It babe. I have a fun inspo, a fun affirmation. It's a fun episode. So welcome to the FYFs. It's a Fuck Yeah Friday. It's kind of like, fuck yeah, I did that, right? I did that. So I am, I'm home. Cambodia. This it's happened and Singapore, but obviously I recorded these beforehand. However, I'm really excited about it. I'm really excited. So here we go. This is the inspiration I saw online, and this is just what I want to share with you all, because I like giving information for you that can support you in your life. So there's this guy on Instagram. It says this guy's a modern day hero, helping people to feel safe while using ride hailing apps and taxis. So his handle is _joshuasummerfield, and he to him, he's been he's an actor, I guess, and he usually plays, like, the protector role. And so he basically created these reels where you could download the audio, and he, he basically, like, he's like, okay, download this audio, and then just turn your phone, like, loud. And so it goes, hey baby, what's up, right? And he has this, like, voice of, like, just like, sounds like a big dude. And then you can go, oh yeah, I'm on my way home. And then he has a script, right? So you just have to pause and he'll talk. And that way your ride share person knows that you have some big, scary person waiting for you. So no matter what, whom you love in this world, or whom you're going home to, you might need this audio. And to be honest, as a female who's been in ride sharing apps, I have been of the course, majority of the rides have felt very safe and very fine and honestly unmemorable, which is what you want. But there have the three times that I have been scared. I was, like, actually scared. And while nothing bad happened to me, bad things have happened. And there's tons of statistics that are out there. And yes, there's apps now, and there's ride sharing apps, including in Vegas, where I live, but probably where you live, where there's driverless cars, which is like, yes please. And then there's also, like, where we live, there's like a woman's only chauffeur, like women only driving, and I love that. But just in case you find yourself not able to use those things, I would definitely hit up his account. I would account. I would definitely do on those audios and save them, because it has been really helpful. You know, I've had it like Brad was traveling once, and this guy had picked me up, right? And he was really gruff about it, and just sent my, like, hackles up, and I was, excuse me, I have to just call my husband, let him know I'm coming home. And I just sent him a voice text. I didn't actually, like, because, like, he was in camp. He was not in the country, so he was not gonna answer his phone while he's sleeping, anyways. And I, of course, was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, drop me off over here and drop me off at my neighbor's house. And I, like, walk, like I was walking up towards their house and, like, behind the van, you know, because, like, sometimes, like, what is going on? Like, this person gives me the creeps. So this guy's voice would have really saved things for me. So anyways, go check that out. We have the link in the show notes for you. And Ijust like, when people do cool things to help other people out, he gets paid nothing for that, which is awesome. And I think what a win for that guy. Just to, like, help everyone out they could have wins in their day. Lesley Logan 3:57  Okay, so now a win of yours. Let's see it. We have Christine Ivy. She's an eLevator. She just graduated. I have been reading the Contrology handbook, and it is so good, it is getting me even more excited, as if that was even possible to work with all my new classical equipment that is arriving this week, Contrology Reformer, Armchair, classical springs for my Cadillac and for my upcoming happy hours in my studio, I am absolutely thrilled for what is to come as I become more aware and more aligned with teaching and practicing the method as it was originally designed. So I love this because, like, I think, I don't think we all spend enough time celebrating, like the learning we're doing, the being in the process of learning what we're doing. You know, sometimes we're like, oh, I won't celebrate until I've learned it. You know, until I am done, I can't celebrate it. But she is like, like, celebrating what she is, in fact, studying right now. And it's so, so cool. And so my loves, you are probably in the middle of something. Maybe you can celebrate when you did something like, when you read one chapter, right? Oh, I read that one chapter. Or oh, I'm finally able to pronounce that word in this language I'm learning correctly. You know, those are wins that you're not giving yourself credit for. And I love a gratitude, and we're coming up in gratitude season. But like, my goodness, we can be celebrating like, oh, that happened today. You know that one thing happened today, and take some note for it, because things that stand out are the things that like suck, but if you're focusing on the things that like, whoa, I can't believe like, not only did I get that email off that's been on my heart and I was struggling to write it, but I also got some laundry done. I got two hard things done one day. Win, right? All right. So just trying to give you some ideas on all the things you can celebrate in your life. Lesley Logan 5:32  Okay, my turn to celebrate. So I have another bucket list to check off. So Brad showed me the Botanical Gardens in Singapore years ago. I don't even think we'd actually even been to a Singapore Airport when he showed me this, like, I think he's on a movie or a short or something like that. Just look like this world of craziness. And we just kept saying, someday we'll be able to go to Singapore and do it. And we fly through Singapore a lot, but our layovers are rarely able to to go do anything, and the last couple of times, they were overnight and we could have dinner, but we couldn't do the gardens and dinner and sleep and get to the airport on time and all that stuff. But as I mentioned last time, we had this long layover, and we were able to check off a bucket list and go to the Botanical Gardens. And I have seen them, and I just like, I feel like I'm a constantly a girl, just like seeking out like FernGully. I just want to live in FernGully, you know, but without the hexes. And if you don't know what I just said, then you have not seen one of the greatest cartoon movies ever. And it's Robin Williams playing Baddie, and it is just wonderful. And I might just watch it now that I've, like reminded myself how cool it was. I hope it's as good as a child, but anyways, I really hope it ages well. But I just there's something about being in these gardens and seeing plants from all over that you would never get to see. It just feels like a wonder of this world. And so if you have a bucket list and you haven't like looked at it recently, go ahead and give it a look, right? You might find an opportunity to get to check one of those things off, and it feels really, really cool. Have I seen anything else in Singapore? No, not really, but that, yes, I have. So good, celebrate. Oh, what a win. What a win. Because when you start practicing, seeking out what is possible, it's pretty easy to find out more possibilities on those things. Lesley Logan 7:23  All right, I have a really funny affirmation. So this I came across, and I'm pretty sure the person thought that they were like nagging this part, like this thing about LA., but I actually thought of it as a great affirmation. So what the post says is, nothing will prepare you for L.A., small talk. I asked someone today what they do, and they said, I'm in between blessings right now. And so I feel like this person is, like, trying to get like, a shock out of people, because, like, L.A., people do say some interesting things, like, I'm in between blessings right now. But what an awesome affirmation or mantra if you are in that space, like, if you are going through something, you're feeling really stuck, this is for you. So I think we should just co-opt this, because it's great. And there's some weird things. L.A. people say, as someone who's been in L.A., I will happily, yes, there are, but I'll die on that hill that, like some of them, aren't actually wonderful, positive ways of thinking about your life. So, ready? I'm in between blessings right now. Doesn't that sound good? I'm in between blessings right now. Oh yeah, I'm in between blessings right now. Lesley Logan 8:28  All right, loves, you go have a great weekend. All right? You guys, have a great weekend. I hope that you are on the waitlist for the upcoming Cambodia retreat next year. We will open up the doors in January. You got to be on the waitlist for that crowsnestretreats.com. And you know, if you got wins, we want to hear them. Send them into beitpod.com/questions you can also send your questions there. But I want your wins. Maybe you are in between blessings and you want to celebrate that. We would love to hear it. All right, have an amazing day. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 8:55  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 9:38  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 9:43  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 9:48  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 9:55  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 9:58  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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In this recap, Lesley and Brad revisit their inspiring interview with Jill Allen, founder of Jill Allen & Associates and host of Hey Docs. They reflect on the lessons of grit, confidence, and letting go of the “do-it-all” mindset that keeps entrepreneurs stuck. Together, they share why delegation, structure, and brave decision-making matter more than perfection—and how asking “What's the worst that can happen?” can unlock fearless growth in both your business and in your life.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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And I think that it's, it definitely makes you go like, you have to get the, get it done. But what if you don't? I've been in that position where I've actually missed deadlines. I have failed because I waited until I needed that feeling of pressure, you know. So there's just so much that goes along with this Superman, Superwoman syndrome when we're trying to do it all.Lesley Logan 0:30  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:09  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the demystifying convo I have with Jill Allen in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now and go back and listen to that one or you can listen this one and then see if you align with what we liked in that one. Maybe you like something different. Brad Crowell 1:32  Maybe. Lesley Logan 1:33  So today is October 23rd, 2025 and there was no good days. So yesterday, the 22nd was National Make A Dog's Day. And I'm going, I don't want to forget this, so pause. You guys, on the day that we're recording this is a month from when this is releasing, and so a month ago from when you're listening to this, and two days, was like National like Amazing Wife's Day and my husband did not know, and he didn't announce anything. No public displays of affection on Instagram, nothing. I'm just saying, it was a very important holiday, and it will never land on a Thursday, because it's always on the third Sunday of every month. Brad Crowell 2:12  What date was that? Lesley Logan 2:14  It was September 21st and if you look at 10 days, and the reason I know is because my and Rick. Rick posted about my and he said it was National Amazing Wife's day on the third Sunday of every month. He actually must have also gotten his day from the same exact same website. So anyways, back. Brad Crowell 2:33  That's pretty badass, Rick. Lesley Logan 2:35  Back, no, I don't think he listens. But anyway, he doesn't.Brad Crowell 2:38  You're showing me up. You're making me look bad over here. Lesley Logan 2:38  But just like that, we took him right back down, because he does not even listen to this. Anyways, I'm just telling you that we don't do this on the Sundays, and you're missing out on good holidays that could involve celebrating me, but today, but today, we are celebrating National Make a Dog's Day. And so October 22nd, yesterday, National Make a Dog's Day is how we use this day to ensure that the dogs around us enjoy themselves as best as possible. Oh, my Lord, this is a day to spread information about dogs importance in our lives and how much they can improve our days with love and loyalty. Brad Crowell 3:18  In case you didn't already. Lesley Logan 3:20  Is there any scientific, is there any scientific evidence of this, other than, like, it makes us feel good? Like, is there, I only know anecdotal. Like, yes, my dog is better because of my life is better because of my dog. But like, is there any science behind this? Did the day give us anything? No, so we're just, we're just gonna say it. We also use this day to encourage people to adopt from shelters and provide a better life for at least one puppy. May I suggest an older dog. Go to your local SPCA. We donate to the Nevada one, and we got to tour the facility. And it is amazing. OPC donates to them and the time of this release, Cody and Onyx better be adopted you guys, because it's, I'm really fucking struggling, like I just want, Brad, I think, wanted to invite Onyx in because she's 11 and she's like a little black version of Gaia. I'm not even kidding. Same underbite, same, same everything, very agile. Actually, Gaia was not that agile at 11. We'll say that. And I want Cody, and Cody is way too big, and we don't have time for that energy right now. But go to your local SPCA and go meet the dogs, go play with the dogs, become a volunteer and walk the dogs. You can even read to the dogs, right? Because clearly that is going to make your life better. And you can also foster, if you know, like, I'm only in town for a couple weeks at a time, you can become a foster, and you won't even fail, because you are like, oh no, I'm gonna be a professional foster. I'm only gonna take a dog for as long as I'm in town, or things like and they they supply the food and the medical, and you're just the house, you just get the love of the dog, and it's quite great. So we mean the world for a dog, and it's time we insure they get everything they deserve. I'm gonna say our dogs are so spoiled that this kind of holiday feels like a dog made it up. But, at any rate, we, our lives are better because they're in it. It's for sure.Brad Crowell 5:09  There's no question about that. Well, hey, I'm really excited to be home. We just got back from Cambodia and Singapore. Lesley Logan 5:15  We just got back and we're hugging our dog and making his life better. Brad Crowell 5:20  We're hugging our dog. Lesley Logan 5:21  How nice of us to come home just in time for this holiday. Brad Crowell 5:24  How nice of, yeah, you better feel special Bayon. We came home just for you. Yeah, he abandoned us. So it was, you know, look, Cambodia is magical. What an amazing experience. And you're missing out if you haven't joined us yet. So you should go get on the wait list for next year. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. We will be making the announcement pretty soon about next year's trip, but I'm going to tell you secret listener, insider info, it's in October of next year, and it's going to be.Lesley Logan 5:56  The dates are on the site. Brad Crowell 5:56  The 18th to the 23rd. Lesley Logan 5:56  Yeah and January is when we will announce the. Brad Crowell 5:56  I don't think the dates are on the site yet, so we're just telling you right now. Yeah. Lesley Logan 5:56  Okay, So you get the insider (inaudible). Brad Crowell 5:56  You get the insider info. Lesley Logan 5:59  If you are on the waitlist already, you got that information, and in January, only the waitlist people get the discount. So just saying, save some money, get on the waitlist and snag your spot. We already have released the Winter Tour event. We actually have, the time we're recording this, have not seen the whole schedule, but I have seen several cities, and I have approved several workshops. So I think with confidence I can say Lexington, Kentucky. I think with confidence I can say DC. Brad Crowell 6:38  Yeah. Lesley Logan 6:39  I think with confidence, I can say, Tampa.Brad Crowell 6:46  Here, let's just do this because this is a. Lesley Logan 6:48  This feels like a guessing game. You're not even helping me out.Brad Crowell 6:51  Well, because. Lesley Logan 6:52  What? What? With confidence, what can you say? Pensacola. Brad Crowell 6:56  All right, so Colorado Springs. Lesley Logan 6:57  Oh gay. Brad Crowell 6:58  Fayetteville, Arkansas. Lesley Logan 6:59  Oh so fun. Brad Crowell 7:00  Louisville. Lesley Logan 7:02  Oh, that's different than Lexington. Brad Crowell 7:03  Oh, sorry, I said it wrong. St Louis, I'm reading two things here, then Lexington, then Columbus, Ohio. Lesley Logan 7:11  Oh, oh, we're going back?Brad Crowell 7:15  We've never been to Columbus (inaudible). Lesley Logan 7:19  Oh, sorry, sorry. That was such a bad move that was like a California move, like, I've been there.Brad Crowell 7:27  That one's not locked in yet, Columbus, but we're close. We're going to be in Fort Wayne for a day off. Then we're going all up to Detroit. Lesley Logan 7:34  Whoa. Brad Crowell 7:35  Yeah, we're going to hit it this time. Finally, then it looks like we're swinging around. We are doing our best to line up a spot in Pittsburgh and possibly Rochester. So unfortunately. Lesley Logan 7:45  Sounds like these are these are not real. Brad Crowell 7:47  Canada is out. Canada is out. Lesley Logan 7:49  You guys, I'm hearing this for the first time. Brad Crowell 7:51  It's true. Lesley Logan 7:52  Don't, this is the thing, you can't get mad at, at us, and you can't get mad I don't think it's the Canadian government this time. I think this is a host issue. Brad Crowell 7:59  This is a host issue. We've been having trouble connecting with studios. It's insane. Like in Toronto and Ottawa, just like, nothing. (inaudible)Lesley Logan 8:07  And we know you want us to come and they're just not (inaudible). Brad Crowell 8:10  Like, really, can't understand that. But yeah, I mean, at this point we're having, we're gonna have to look at the following year, because this stuff has already been negotiated. Saratoga Springs a private event. Boston, Mass is public. Cape Cod Mashpee, Providence is a private event. New Haven, Connecticut is day off. Torrington, we're going to teach in Torrington, I think, which is Connecticut. Hershey, PA, then we got. Lesley Logan 8:35  I feel like we're not giving them insider on anything, because they're like, I could just go to the website and they can they're hearing days off. They're hearing this might be.Brad Crowell 8:42  Well, this is like, you started this. Lesley Logan 8:45  I know, but it was more fun the way I was doing it. It's like a guessing game. Brad Crowell 8:52  We're gonna be in Rehoboth Beach. Lesley Logan 8:56  Where the fuck is that? Brad Crowell 8:56  Yeah, we're gonna that's Delaware. Lesley Logan 8:56  Okay, Delaware. (inaudible)Brad Crowell 8:55  We're gonna be in D.C. Lesley Logan 8:56  It's just a small state if you say Delaware, Virginia. We're coming back. We love beach. Brad Crowell 8:56  We're gonna be in we're working on Charlotte right now, but not sure yet. We're still working that out. Lesley Logan 9:04  That was definitely been a problem. Brad Crowell 9:04  Savannah, Georgia. Then, Fort Lauderdale.Lesley Logan 9:06  Wow, we found something in Savannah. No way. Brad Crowell 9:09  I'm pretty sure. Lesley Logan 9:09  No, it didn't happen, like, the last two trips. Are you sure that's not like a day off, or we're just spending the night? Brad Crowell 9:14  Could be a day off. Then we're gonna go down to Fort Lauderdale. We are teaching. Tampa, we are teaching.Lesley Logan 9:14  You know what you can do everyone, go to opc.me/events and you can see which of these are days off and which of these are real stops.Brad Crowell 9:27  I'm just gonna read through the rest of this, Pensacola, New Orleans, Houston and Austin. Houston, we're still working on. And then Phoenix. We're probably most likely teaching Phoenix. Either Phoenix or Tucson. We're still figuring that out. But that's that's the path. Lesley Logan 9:40  We had some people in Tucson who wanted us to come so (inaudible). Well, there it is, folks, opc.me/events to get the actual lineup with the for sure, settle dates and snag what spots remain.Brad Crowell 9:52  We are recording this a month ahead of time. So by the time you're hearing this and seeing that, it will be a lot more clear. Lesley Logan 9:56  Now you can see it's really a lot of work. And it's really hard, because we got a ton of people when we were going to Canada the first time in the Toronto area, want us to come, but none of them have studios, and we can't, we, we specifically, because we're crossing the border, we actually have to be invited. Like, we can't just, like, wing it. And then when the tour ends, we come home, kick off, eLevate Six and then we head to Huntington Beach for the Pilates Journal Expo. Go to xxll.co/pilatesjournal. I've decided that's how I'm saying it xxll.co/pilatesjournal, and you're going to be able to get your tickets. There's a, it's a huge lineup. A lot of my friends are doing it. It was kind of fun. Like I knew I was doing it, but they didn't tell me who else is doing it. Like one of the girls that I train to be a teacher is doing it. So, like, so cool. So, so, so cool. And I did that so long ago. That's how long she's been a teacher. Because, like, that was a long time. It was almost 10 years ago. February, Agency Mini is happening. You want to get on the waitlist at prfit.biz/mini P-R-F-I-T that's profit without the O, dot biz slash mini, and that is for Pilates instructors and studio owners who would like to ditch all the chaos, the noise, the overwhelm, and get their business to work for them.Brad Crowell 10:07  A lot of people, a lot of people have been asking us, when are we doing it again y'all, so we're giving you a lot of a heads up here to get ready, get prepared. Go to prfit.biz/mini to get yourself on the waitlist so you can catch that early bird when we when we roll that out. In March, we are going to go to Europe, and we're really fired up about it. We're going to be in Poland, and then in Brussels. So go to xxll.co/poland xxll.co/brussels for those two events, and then in April.Lesley Logan 11:41  P.O.T. London, time of this recording, we don't have a link for you to go to. I'm sure it's already been announced. And I'm sure there's an early bird that you don't want to miss. And I am, for sure, doing the Joe's Gyms, and I still haven't signed the contract, so. Brad Crowell 11:42  It's a party. Lesley Logan 11:52  I am, I am pretty sure I am teaching two amazing workshops, which is super cool. They are not any workshops that I've ever taught in England before. So if you just came to the Mullet Tour, or you've been to a Mullet Tour, neither of these workshops have ever seen the light of day in that country. So you want to go. Okay, before we get into the lovely Jill Allen, we have a question to respond to.Brad Crowell 12:23  We totally do. The, let's see. Hold on. Mary star Pilates. Mary star Pilates. I'm on the wrong one. We're just gonna leave that in. We're leaving that in. Don't worry about it. DeniseStargazer said, hey, I would love your opinion about ankle and wrist weights while doing Pilates. How heavy, how often, is there a leg or ankle preference or brand?Lesley Logan 12:52  Well, I do love that both two questions in a row will have the name star in them, which is quite cool, but okay, so how do I answer this? Joe Pilates did mess around with some foot weights. They were the shape of a shoe, and my friend Joel Crosby made me a pair, and I think I still have them and. Brad Crowell 13:12  Oh yeah. Lesley Logan 13:12  They are really hard for me to do Pilates with. Brad Crowell 13:16  Oh yeah, they're hard. Lesley Logan 13:17  In fact, I think that they're.Brad Crowell 13:20  They're literally like a weighted sole that you strap onto the bottom of your feet.Lesley Logan 13:24  And I, and I'm going to preface this with both Brad and I are hyper mobile bodies. And so because of that, and I have the longest legs already, so because of that, I actually think that just a general statement of ankle or leg weights in Pilates is probably not necessary. I do see. Brad Crowell 13:49  The longest limbs. Lesley Logan 13:51  I do see how these things that Joe was creating, that Joel created, could be useful to someone who's not hyper mobile, someone who's already very strong in the practice. And also, if someone has a foot boot on, like a foot boot, that's a redundancy. A boot on like they have a foot injury, I think a weighted ankle weight on the other leg would be helpful, because then you have, like an evenness to what's happening distally on the leg. But in general, I think these things are a fitness fad that looks freaking cute on the skinny girlies, and they match their outfits, and it's just esthetically pleasing. But I think it is a waste of time. I think it's so easy for your joints to do the moves, whether you're doing Pilates or not. I think it's so easy for the joints to do the moves. I think it is asking a lot of the connections your body needs to have. So if you are a super strong, connected, non hypermobile person, and you don't feel your hip flexors take over, your back takeover, have the most fun. Bala makes super cute ones, by the way. I mean, if you're going to put these ankle weights on and look like a Jane Fonda, it should at least be cute. But I do think that the average person just needs to get started. And I feel like this is just another thing someone have to buy and invest in, get out, dust off, to get their movement practice in. So I'm a not fan of them, and I don't use them.Brad Crowell 15:11  Well, that's fair. Yeah. I mean, I think also too, just the just from cursory listening to y'all teaching and doing all that stuff. Most people are picking up two to five pound weights. And I know you every time you're like, just use ones.Lesley Logan 15:28  In Pilates, you're using one, and in the gym, you're going to pick up heavy weights, okay? And if you want to use ankle weights at the gym, that is not my my fortress. I go there and I work out. My trainer gives me things. If she told me I needed ankle weights, because she's so smart, I would listen to her. But in Pilates, like, if you have a super if you have a Michael Phelps torso and short legs, maybe ankle weights would help balance your torso to your leg situation, some exercises. But I really think before you add tools to things you might need to he was like a dolphin. Brad's looking at how long his spine was. He was like a dolphin. He had a ridiculously long spine. But, like, I just think that, like, it's just one more thing that we're. Brad Crowell 16:13  It still is. He's alive, right? Lesley Logan 16:14  Well, yeah, he's alive. Brad Crowell 16:14  Still is like a dolphin. Lesley Logan 16:12  He still is like a dolphin. So I just think that, like, you know, the other thing I'll say about this is ankle weights are like a prop. And Joe never used a prop throughout every single exercise. He used props as tools to teach a connection you needed, and got rid of them. So if you are a teacher who's like, oh my god, Lesley, I use the the ankle weights for this one exercise to help people. Great. Don't at me. I'm good. I celebrate you. I think it's wonderful. But I just think that, like, how often, how long? Like, it's just another thing out there that I don't think is as needed. I think, I think we can get so much out of Pilates without having to make it harder to do. That's my personal opinion. And I love this question so much. I want more questions like these. Send them to the beitpod.com/questions or what's the phone number, because it's not what I want. Brad Crowell 17:00  310-905-5534Lesley Logan 17:01  I mean, at least it's 310. Brad Crowell 17:05  Yeah, sure. Lesley Logan 17:06  Good area code. Brad Crowell 17:07  We'll take it. 310-905-5534 or go to beitpod.com/questions and send us your wins or your questions. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this really heartfelt convo with Jill Allen and she, she coaches orthodontics offices.Lesley Logan 17:25  Are you not gonna take a break at all? Brad Crowell 17:26  Wait for it, she coaches orthodontics offices. And the thing that's crazy is that the conversation is applicable to people of all walks of life.Lesley Logan 17:36  It really is. We didn't even talk about orthodontists. Brad Crowell 17:39  Yeah, stick around. We'll be right back.Brad Crowell 17:41  Welcome back. Let's talk about Jill Allen. Jill is the founder of Jill Allen and Associates. Lesley Logan 17:47  Doesn't that look like she should be also a lawyer? Brad Crowell 17:50  Oh, a lawyer or like. Lesley Logan 17:51  Should be like a legal office. Brad Crowell 17:52  Luxary handbags. Lesley Logan 17:54  Oh, Jill Allen, I see that.Brad Crowell 17:56  Yeah. She's an orthodontic consulting firm. She's over 30 years of experience in the industry, and specializes in helping doctors launch their own, their own, their own orthodontic practices, focusing exclusively on startups and supporting new owners who often lack formal business training. That sounds so familiar. She is also the host of Hey Docs, a podcast where she shares business fundamentals, and interviews experts to provide valuable insight for all entrepreneurs. Dr. Allen finds her greatest inspiration in seeing her clients grow their practices into thriving, multimillion dollar businesses, which is pretty epic. I love that, and I felt like I commiserated with her a lot, because we, obviously, service, you know, we serve the Pilates industry. And so it's really interesting to hear her talk about, when she started her consulting firm 19 years ago, there was no like people were not using the internet for this kind of stuff. Barely using the internet. Social media was barely starting, right?Lesley Logan 19:02  I know because I hadn't. I mean, I had an orthodontist when I was in June, like, sixth grade. And like, I mean, my parents had to, like, just find one in the yellow pages.Brad Crowell 19:11  Yeah, probably the yellow pages, or referral word of mouth, most likely. Lesley Logan 19:16  Like, maybe, and I, because I doubt our I don't, our insurance paid for Orthodontic work. You know what I mean? I, for sure, didn't, because my siblings didn't get the same situation as I did. So yeah, so which is something everyone likes to bring up, but, I mean, 19 years, even the coaching, but she coaches them has changed, because now.Brad Crowell 19:32  Oh yeah, everything has changed, but it's fascinating, because when we, you know, like there wasn't anybody doing what she was doing when she got started, and we felt the same way with Agency, there wasn't anybody coaching, you know, Pilates business owners. Lesley Logan 19:46  Yeah I felt a lot of same synergy. But I also want to say, like, everything I want to say to you applies to anybody who's got a dream or a goal or a business. She said, confidently stand in the space like you got to be confident in the space that you're in. You know, people, and this is so true, people are not going to walk around and believe in you more than you believe. I mean, I believe in our members. I think sometimes when they believe in them. But the reality is, is that like, like, random, random people an be like, oh my god, you're the like, you have to believe in you, like, people want to, especially when you are in a service-based business, orthodontics, Pilates, anything, people want the confident person they don't want the person like, I think I know what I'm doing. Like, we, just before we hit record, our car's in the shop, and we have a new mechanic because we have a new car, and you know, you're like, God how much they're gonna rip me off for. It's kind of like taking your dog to the vet. It's like, what's the bill gonna be? And you just, like, spin the wheel. And this guy is like, okay, here's a video of, here's where we saw this. We saw this. We're just gonna watch this. He was so he stood in his confidence. He could be bullshitting me. I don't know what I'm looking at, but like, he was so confident. I was like, I told Brad, I was like, I love these guys. These are our mechanics. We're not switching, like, just that, just that confidence in there. And so I just highly recommend that for anyone who is on a mission. She also stated that being a business owner requires grit and hard work. And there's an incredible, I can't think of her name, it's on the tip of my tongue, but there's an incredible TEDx talk on grit. And the truth is, is that the reason why most businesses, the businesses that become like successful, they found it's not like they hit lightning in the bottle. It's most of the time that people just had grit. They just kept going. They just kept going. And then she also said there is this pressure on business owners to hit these big financial goals, and then that leads to imposter syndrome. And we've had Brad Bizjack on a couple weeks ago, and he talks about how, like, he misses all of his goals, but he's the most confident person you've ever met because, like, how he talks to himself, how he pumps himself up, and how he has confidence, not in that he achieved a goal, but in a work that they he did. And so she says, like, you have to keep pumping yourself up, even if you don't believe it 100% yet, because that is going to help you with the confidence and showing up and doing the hard work. And we got to take pressure of ourselves to hit the goals yesterday or this, I mean, like, people are like, okay, I'm charging my rates, but I still don't have enough clients. It's like, right, one step at a time. Like, you know, I don't know. I just loved it. What did you think? What did you love?Brad Crowell 22:22  Yeah, the the okay, so actually, I was just going to bring up, I'm trying to remember if we had him on the pod, Reid Tileston. Do you remember Reid? Super, super tall professor who owned, like many, many gyms, gyms over the years. Lesley Logan 22:40  Oh, we never had Reid on. Brad Crowell 22:41  Okay, well, he wrote a book, and it's called Grit It Done, and it's, it's like, low risk entrepreneurial tips and stuff. So anyway, I know that's not, that's more for people who are starting a business, but you know, when you started talking about grit, it started making me think about Reid and. Lesley Logan 22:55  Hi, Reid. Brad Crowell 22:56  Yeah. Hi, Reid. But I really loved when y'all know exactly what I'm going to talk about here, because I keep coming back to this across different interviews, where we have the the idea of the Superman or the Superwoman syndrome. It's the solopreneur complex is another way to put it, right, where I have to be the one doing it. I'm the, you know, I'm I can do it better than everybody else. I don't have the money to do, to outsource, or any of that kind of thing. And she talked about, she specifically honed in on the the idea that it makes us feel like we're getting we are actually working. It validates our own internal feelings, right? I need to be doing it all. And she said, it's an internal conflict, and it also creates overwhelm, right? So it's this both thing, where, like that feeds our ego, but it also creates overwhelm, and it kind of gives us the idea that we are working so hard, right, that we're getting something, we're moving the ball forward somehow. Lesley Logan 24:00  But we're just treading water. Brad Crowell 24:01  But a lot of the time we're treading water. Lesley Logan 24:04  Which is really hard to do. Have you just tried treading water recently? Like. Brad Crowell 24:04  Oh, recently, no, but I used to have to do that. Lesley Logan 24:08  We had to do it in swimming lessons. Brad Crowell 24:12  Yeah, for like, 15 minutes, yeah. That was a long freaking time. Lesley Logan 24:16  Especially for you. Brad Crowell 24:18  No, to be a lifeguard or something. (inaudible)Lesley Logan 24:20  No, not like you don't have the strength or endurance. I mean, your attention span, like you couldn't do anything else, your usual. You couldn't, like, tap something or click something, or like you just had to do one thing. I just can't, it will the longest 15 minutes for you.Brad Crowell 24:38  Well, you know this idea of the Superman, Superwoman syndrome really creates, like, debilitating pressure on on you because when it's not getting done, when something isn't getting done, whose fault is it? It's always our fault. Why? Because we're in the middle of every single project, every single possible thing. And you know, it really it creates, sometimes we, like, I think something that I've told myself over the years is that I work better under pressure, or I work better under a deadline, right? And I think that it's it definitely makes you go, like, you have to get the, get it done. But what if you don't? I've been in that position where I've actually missed deadlines, have failed because I waited until I needed that feeling of pressure, you know. So there's just so much that goes along with with this Superman, Superwoman syndrome when we're trying to do it all. And she also talked about like, it, you know, the irony here is that that overwhelm of like, what if you don't actually know what you're doing? What if you don't get it done? Or, you know, the you can be overwhelmed by this realization that I don't know how to do it all, while thinking I have to do it all or I'm the only one that could do this.Lesley Logan 25:53  That sounds like a terrible torture room to be in your mind.Brad Crowell 25:58  She said, she said, how do you overcome this? Right? And ultimately, it comes down to trust, trusting others to be able to execute or implement in a way that you would be doing it or as close to you as possible, right? And she, she said, take it like eating a cookie, just one little bite at a time, and keep moving forward, but, but then be sure to look back and high five yourself. So in this case, what she's talking about is, as you're delegating, you know, go back and look at little pieces of it and make sure that it's up to the standard that you need. And then you get the high five them, high five yourself. I mean, if you're not running a business here, if this isn't like you're not trying to do that. What if it was walking the dog and you delegated it to a child of yours? Or what if it was cleaning the house? Chores.Lesley Logan 26:48  We used to have those neighbors, the Brazilians, who, like, legitimately, the child was, like, eight years old, and the other one might have been like, I don't know, six, and they walked that dog, and the dog is, like, way bigger than them. And we were like, oh my god, should they be doing this? But they did it every day. I watched them do it every day, you know. And so, like, I thought that was, what a great responsibility, it's an easy block, like, it was not on a dangerous road. They're not crossing any streets, you know.Brad Crowell 27:13  But you know, or, or it is, you know, it can be.Lesley Logan 27:18  I think also you may have said this, but, like, you also don't have to do some things, like, they just don't get done. Like, you can just park okay, you know what's gonna happen. We're going to do laundries on Sunday, and that means everyone has to have enough underwear to get to Sunday. That's how it's got to go. That's when laundry is going to get done. Like, I understand there's a story that a lot of people tell themselves it has to be clean for me to get my work done, bullshit. It does not have to be clean. You have to be able to sit at your desk. And there might be some, like, some interesting things about yourself that you might need things to be clean, but it's often an excuse to not do the thing, because you have another reason to not do the thing. And I would just challenge yourself to, like, figure out, like, like, so, like, there's a whole idea, like, so what, so, and then what, and then and like, follow the path and like, the reality is, a lot of the things that we busy ourselves doing do not lead to the actual goal that we have. And that's what I have to say about that.Brad Crowell 28:16  Yeah, I love it. Well, you know, I think, I think that we're setting ourselves up for failure when we attempt to do everything all by ourselves, and and you know, there are times in our world, in our life, whether that's just due to relationships or finances or whatever, where you know, we are kicking off a project and we are the one ideating and creating, but when it comes to executing and being creative, it's really hard to wear those two hats at the same time, and it really does help you to train someone properly, to help you get all the work doneLesley Logan 28:57  Well and the other thing I just want to say is or hire a coach to help advise you on what's the most like the thing that's priority right now? Brad Crowell 29:04  Yeah, sure. Lesley Logan 29:04  Because if you're trying, if you're actually not sure what you're supposed to be focusing on, you could hire help and then be focused on the wrong thing. And so Jill is a perfect example that there is a coach out there for every fucking niche. So if you are not a Pilates instructor and you're not an orthodontist, I promise you there is a coach out there for you. There is someone who coaches lawyers. There's someone who coaches social workers, or someone who coaches, you know, like. Brad Crowell 29:26  Pilates instructors. Lesley Logan 29:26  Well, yeah, I just said, I said, I said, if you're not one of those already, if you, there's someone who coaches yoga instructors, or someone who coaches, you know, managers of franchises. Like, there are people out there who coach all these things, and this is a matter of finding the one that resonates with you, that gets you. So don't just fall for a really good, you know, funnel. Talk with them. Ask them, like, what you're nervous about, share like, here's my biggest fear. I'm gonna sign up with you, and this is what's gonna happen. And like, you know, make sure that they have a money back guarantee, and then do the work. You know, but there's people out there who will help you. Brad Crowell 30:03  Yeah, well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into a couple of those Be It Action Items that we got from Jill right after this. Brad Crowell 30:05  All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Jill Allen? She said, hey, you gotta block time schedule, yo. She strongly advocates for block time scheduling for any business owner, even for those who dislike rigidity, which would be me. Lesley Logan 30:30  Except for, we just looked up things that help ADHD CEOs, and one of them is a fucking block schedule.Brad Crowell 30:36  Yeah. Well, you know, because it's like a it's like a sandbox that you get to do whatever you want with within that time. So yeah, she explained that without a plan, a business owner can find 100 things to do with their day, which is the story of my life.Lesley Logan 30:52  I just watched you start to put together the towel thing during a work day. And I was like, that has nothing to do with the work today.Brad Crowell 31:02  I was just listening to things, and I had but then I got this. I got ADD because I, my drill stopped and I couldn't use it. Good times. So there's that. She said, explained, without a plan, business owners can find 100 things to do with the day. And by creating start and stop times, just for tasks, this prevents you from getting sidetracked, which helps manage an otherwise unstructured day. So we definitely.Lesley Logan 31:27  We love a kitchen timer. Brad Crowell 31:28  We love a kitchen timer. Lesley Logan 31:29  Like our time cubes are really great. I was just telling Agency members at some office hours we did the other day. I said, literally, I have to, especially when overwhelmed and I am in the reentry, because I'm always over when we get back to work, even though I am like, we did all the work I needed to do so I could start, you know, fresh. I still have to start. I'm not ahead. And I go, Oh God, I have to touch this inbox. And I set the timer for 15 minutes, and I scan for the most important emails, the timer goes off. Okay, 15 minutes in this Slack. Okay, 15, like, before you know it, you're caught up on things, the overwhelm starts to dissipate, because you actually have seen that. There's not really any fires that are going on and the stories in your head are not true, but time blocks. It's so because I won't work on other things because I'm on the timer of the first thing. Brad Crowell 31:29  Yep. Well, what about you? What was your biggest takeaway? Lesley Logan 32:01  She said before making a decision or starting a new venture ask yourself, what's the worst thing that's gonna happen? Brad Crowell 32:01  I really, I really appreciated this. Lesley Logan 32:01  I love this, because if you can, if you determine you can handle the worst case outcome, you'd move forward with it. I mean, I forget.Brad Crowell 32:01  I mean, she, she specifically said when, like, because she was working in the orthodontics industry, but wanted to start coaching new orthodontic business owners. She said, what's the worst that could happen is we could get no clients, and then I go bankrupt, and that will affect my credit score, and then, you know, what am I going to do? Right? She's like, but there is a path after that. She's like, so once I embraced that, then it wasn't as scary as this amorphous black hole of like, what if things just don't go right? Lesley Logan 33:01  Well, we have this, we have this idea we're talking about and and not that we have any time for it, but we were talking about doing this thing, and I kept just thinking, like, oh my god, there's so much uncertainty right now. It's gonna cost us so much money. I'm not gonna find this thing that I want, and if it doesn't work out, then we're like, fucked right? Like, it could actually cost us things. And then we came with this idea. We're like, oh, we could just build it in the backyard. And it's like, because the worst case is the idea sucks, it doesn't work, and we have a beautiful ADU in the backyard. And so I want to move forward with that. Brad Crowell 33:34  Yeah, I'm excited about it. Lesley Logan 33:38  All right, the other thing she said I want to bring up before we move on is, be brave, not perfect. And she was referencing a book. And I am sorry, guys, I am forgetting the name of that book but, be brave. Brad Crowell 33:46  I think the book is called Be Brave, Not Perfect. Lesley Logan 33:47  Brave not perfect. Brad Crowell 33:48  That's by Reshma Saujani.Lesley Logan 33:52  Oh, is it Reshma? Brad Crowell 33:53  Reshma Saujani.  Lesley Logan 33:55  But Reshma, the Reshma? Hold on. Brad Crowell 33:58  I don't know who the Reshma is, so. Lesley Logan 34:00  If it's the Reshma, she has the best, the best college graduating speech. If it's her.Brad Crowell 34:07  She's a lawyer, politician, civil servant, founder of the nonprofit Girls Who Code.Lesley Logan 34:10  This woman is absolutely incredible. She's the one who, like, talked about bike face. If you haven't, like, look her up, Google bike face college speech. And it's this whole thing that back when, like, bikes were invented, when bicycles were not just invented, but like more popular poor people can have them, they started telling women they were gonna have, they had bike face, because now women could just get around on their own. I kid you not. The number of times that women finally get like, a fucking inch of independence, and they're like, oh, let's just like, fuck this up. So what happened is, women couldn't ride the bicycles in their in their dresses, so they started wearing trousers. And people didn't like they're wearing trousers, that's a problem. And they also could get around without a male and they could be independent and they could, I don't know, have a fucking dream and life of their own. Anyways, they would tell them and be careful you're gonna have bike face. You won't be attractive, and then no one will marry you. Anyways, that is not it, but that is who Reshma is, and I am obsessed with her. So Brave, Not Perfect. Well, we should all read that book. We should have maybe next year, I should have a book club, a Be It Pod Book Club. I don't know that I can get the authors every time, but maybe I could figure that out.Brad Crowell 35:28  If you like that idea, let us know by texting 310-905-5534, what do you think about a Be It Pod Book Club, the Be It Pod squad. Lesley Logan 35:38  Yeah. Oh, that's what I want to call you guys instead. I call you Be It babes. And I kind of want to call you the Be It Pod squad. I just, I also need to know, like, does that sound good, or does that sound like I'm creating, like a cult. Just don't want to create a cult.Brad Crowell 35:51  You're not creating a cult, you're creating a squad.Lesley Logan 35:54  But, but if it was a, but if it is a book club, I do believe that I would want the somehow the club has to be a podcast episode, you guys, my team will freak out if we add another Zoom call that does not produce an episode or a class. So, so anyways, okay, well, Jill Allen, thank you for being you, and thank you for just reminding us that we should have grit and stand in confidence and just go for it. It was just such a wholesome, wonderful interview. And I'm really excited for every orthodontist who gets to work for you, because I'm sure most of our listeners' kids are going to benefit from that, including our listeners. You know what, adults with braces it's a thing now. Brad Crowell 36:17  It's true. Lesley Logan 36:18  And share this with a friend who needs to hear it and Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 36:35  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 36:36  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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Lesley Logan chats with Jill Allen, orthodontic consultant, business strategist, and host of the Hey Docs! podcast, about building a thriving business by balancing logic, courage, and heart. Jill shares how she niched into startups, overcame imposter syndrome, and grew a national consulting practice from scratch with clarity, confidence, and a willingness to figure it out. Together they explore how curiosity and smart decision-making helped her be it till she saw it—and how you can too.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Jill discovered her entrepreneurial path in the orthodontic industry.Why niching down can create more opportunity and success in your business.What it takes to build confidence and overcome imposter syndrome as a founder.How block scheduling and focus can transform the way you work.The mindset shift that helps you make smart decisions without getting lost in emotion.Episode References/Links:Practice Results Website - https://www.practiceresults.comHey Docs! Podcast - https://www.practiceresults.com/hey-docsJill Allen on Instagram - https://instagram.com/jillallenandassociatesBook: Brave Not Perfect by Reshma Saujani - https://a.co/d/gpsWODMGuest Bio:The visionary owner and founder of Jill Allen & Associates, Jill is the driving force behind the company's success and a trailblazer in the orthodontic consulting industry. 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I don't want to lead with my heart. I want to lead with good business decisions. And if it's meant to be, it's going to work out, the doors are going to open. And if it's not, hey, there'll be something else that you know that will come my way. Lesley Logan 0:17  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:57  All right, Be It babe. This is really fun. Because of the world of podcasting, I get to do things where I get to meet people that I probably would never have, like, thought about for the show, and also need for the show, like, definitely need it. So this is, like, a total win for both our guests and I today. In fact, I'll get to be on her podcast soon. But our guest is Jill Allen, and I wanted to say, like you're going to hear when she introduce herself that she's a consultant for brand new startup orthodontics. And then I want you just to insert whatever it is that you are wanting to do, whatever it is you're already doing, and apply everything she says to that, because it applies to everyone. And it was such a fun conversation for us both. I got reminders about some things that I did in my early business. And I was like, oh, pat myself on the back. I got to, like, agree on the things that I'm actually teaching Pilates instructors everywhere about their startup. So, like, it actually doesn't matter that her work is in consulting orthodontics. That being said, if you want to be an orthodontist, or, you know, someone who is and they want to have their own practice, this is your expert. I got her for you. She's great, and so please enjoy the fabulous interview and the Be It Action Items are important, no matter if you never want to work for yourself, and especially if you do, so make sure you stay till the end. Here is Jill. Allen. Lesley Logan 2:15  All right, Be It babe. I am super excited to have this awesome conversation we're gonna have today, but mostly because anyone from Denver is a friend of mine. Jill Allen is our guest today, and she is coming to us from Denver. She is the host of the Hey Docs! Podcast. Jill Allen, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Jill Allen 2:32  Sure. Sure. So my name is Jill Allen. I am an orthodontic consultant, actually, and I have been in the orthodontic field for a little over 19 years, with my own business a little over 30 within the industry. And you know, I specialize on helping doctors start up their orthodontic practices and get their practices off the ground and running. And then I also host a podcast that I've been doing for little over a year now, just helping get good information out there to new business owners.Lesley Logan 3:06  Yeah, well, because, I mean, like, even though you specialize in orthodontic offices, a lot of the same systems apply to everything, to all doctors, but also to, like, any small business, anything and like, this is the funny thing you guys like, when you go to law school, when you go to orthodontics school, tennis school, like, Pilates school, they don't teach you how to be a business owner. Jill Allen 3:32  Absolutely. Yep, yep. Lesley Logan 3:34  They don't tell you any of that. Well, that's a shame, because then the best dentists and orthodontists and doctors out there might not actually get the clients, because they don't have the business acumen. So how did, okay, yeah, so 19 years in that world, that's a long time I'd already done braces by then. So, like, it's, thank goodness my parents invested in that at an early age. But how did you did you like, always want it, like, tell us how you got into this in the first place? Take us back. Jill Allen 4:02  Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, it is kind of a fun, a fun story. And I was, you know, really thinking about this, you know, as as I was preparing, you know, to be on the show here today. And, you know, it's kind of funny, because even before I got started, I have always had a very entrepreneurship, just, personality from, you know, being a being a little girl, and my mom, you know, I, I'm going to date myself here, but, you know, being like, hey, you want to make some money go out and sell Amway. Here's some, you know. Here's some bottles of cleaner, you know. And she's sending her third grader out to, you know, rack on doors. And be like, hey, you want to buy some, you know, cleaner or whatnot. But, you know, for for me, just in my, you know, kind of who I am and who I was, I have always just had that spirit of, I want to be my own business owner. And so, as you know, I was, you know, kind of coming up through, you know, my my years, and then getting into orthodontics, I had an opportunity to work in an ortho office, and, you know, was just like, oh, this is just really cool. I like, I like, just the synergy of of this, this business industry, and it's such a niche industry. So with that in, you know, kind of, you know that that mindset, I was actually really blessed to work with some really progressive orthodontists who really believed in continuing education and just, you know, being on kind of the cutting edge of making their business better. So it wasn't just about treating the patient, but it was about, how do I, you know, make my team better? How do I make myself better so that I can provide this really great patient experience? So I got an opportunity at an early age to really get in and see, I'll say, some sages of our time within our industry, kind of at their peak. And for me, I was like, oh my gosh, this is exactly what I want to do, you know. I want to be able to, you know, kind of work in this field and help people, you know, just see what a, what a great field this is. So that's, that's kind of how I got into it. And, you know, for me, I kind of worked my way up and through the practice. And then, you know, 19 years ago was like, okay, I've kind of done everything that I need to do to learn about the business side of doing business. And then, you know, kind of stepped into the orthodontic space and said you know what, I can do this. I can step into this space as a consultant, and just kind of jumped off from there. Now, now, of course, you know, it was, you know, a really, you know, kind of, kind of trying, because I'm like, well, who am I? You know, like usually most consultants in big industry. You know, with within our industry, we're, we're pretty nichey, but, you know, I mean, there's, there's only a certain amount of people that do what I do. And you know, to speak to what you originally talked about with the startups, you know, what I saw is that there was a lot of great sages out there, but none of them were really working with the doctors who were starting their business, and I saw such a need, and thought, you know, this is crazy, and it's probably a horrible business decision, because I should be going after the people that actually have money and want to pay to make themselves better, versus the ones that haven't figured out how to make money yet. Lesley Logan 7:19  Right. Jill Allen 7:20  And, you know, and get going. But I saw such a need, and I also saw that there were a lot of doctors kind of holding themselves back from taking a chance on themselves because they just didn't know how to run a business. And so that's kind of where I I, you know, I kind of stepped into that space and said you know what, nobody else is here, it's a blue ocean, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna build my business in that space.Lesley Logan 7:47  Yeah, I think it's, okay, I just wanna highlight couple things. Like, first of all, like, orthodontics is its own niche, in (inaudible) on its own. But like, if you actually were to think about it, I'm sure almost every city has at least one orthodontist, you know? Oh my gosh, yeah, at least every city has one, right? And so so then. But I also would like this, like, just point out, because I think people are like, oh, I don't want to niche down. We have a lot of people who listen to this, who are are starting up their own thing, and they're like, if I niche down, then I'm like, what if I fail and all this stuff. And it's like, but you niched down even more, you're like, okay, I'm in the, I'm not just helping the medical field start an office. I'm helping people start orthodontic offices. And I I can imagine that was really scary to do that, but also that something that I think is really important. It's like, it's kind of freeing, because you're like, this is exactly what I'm talking to. I'm not trying to talk to the orthodontics who do this over here, and the one that does this over here, I'm talking to your office is new, and this is what we needed to set it up. I think that's really quite bold. And also, clearly, after all these years of doing it, a testament that it was the right thing to do is to niche down as specifically as possible.Jill Allen 8:58  Yeah, it was, and it has been, it's been a great success, and I am still the only one in our industry that just specializes in startup, you know, orthodontic practices. And, you know, as you know, when you talk about, you know, kind of taking, you know, it is scary. Number one, it's just scary to start a business and be like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take a chance on myself. I didn't have a big company backing me, backing me. You know, that was like, hey, come in and speak for us. And, you know, kind of get your, you know, cut your teeth, you know, with with us, backing you. It was really, truly bootstrapping. Like, I've got a message, I think I can do this, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna go out there and, you know, just do the hard work to drum up business. And, you know, because I'm in Colorado, you know, originally I was like, oh, you know, I'll get started here in Colorado. And, you know, back in the day when I was getting started, we didn't even have that access, like we do now with internet.Lesley Logan 9:57  Oh, my God, that's, you know, how crazy, like, (inaudible) 19 years ago, no one was looking on Facebook for a coach.Jill Allen 10:04  No, you know (inaudible).Lesley Logan 10:05  No one was looking on Facebook for an orthodontist.Jill Allen 10:09  No, absolutely not. And so, you know, like, when I think back to, you know, I mean truly a grassroots approach, you know, and and my husband and I were young, and you know, you know, I always, you know, kind of took the approach. And I would say this for any business owner, is, you know, I would always say, okay, what's the worst that's going to happen if I, you know, if I take this and and it doesn't work, you know, I mean, like, I'm committed in my head to do, doing the work. But if it doesn't work, what's, what's the worst that's going to happen? And I would, you know, go through all these scenarios like, well, maybe bankruptcy, maybe we'll run out of money, maybe, you know what, whatever it was. And I always came back to, well, if that's the worst, I mean, like, yeah, it's scary to think about. But if that's the worst thing that that happens, I can recover from that. And I think that was really freeing for me, for when I decided to kind of move into that niche and say, well, you know, what's the worst? I'm, you know, I'm, I'm playing in an arena where the other consultants don't even have their eyes on me, so I can do what I want. And you know, nobody's coming after me as I'm building my business. And, you know, kind of starting my slow burn. Lesley Logan 11:22  Right. Because I think about, like, you know, we coach a lot of people in their Pilates business, and to start a Pilates studio back in the day, people would just start a studio with, like, one of everything, and, like, call it a day, so you can do it like, like, $25-$30,000. Now people think that they have to have like, 12 of everything, you know. And like, I think, like, all these things, and I'm like, that's a that's a huge barrier to entry, you know, and you have to be making money like, day one. I imagine, in your industry, the amount of things you have to buy for an office to function, that's quite the investment. So that is scary. So are you, like, are you finding them before they even make this investment. Are they finding you after they made the investment and they're freaking out?Jill Allen 12:05  Yeah, yeah. Actually, you know, it's kind of interesting how I find my clients. I mean, I, you know, like when I very first got started, I would just reach out to all of the colleges and be like, hey, you want somebody to, you know, to talk to the residents about running a business. And, you know, that's, that's kind of how it started, but, you know, now you know, now I, you know, I get, I get clients from, you know, from people who are just like, okay, I think I'm ready. I've been associating for a while, or I'm in school, and I just know I don't want to work for anybody else. And they're, you know, you know, kind of reaching out or whatnot. But it's, it's, it's, it's really been fun to see, you know, that that evolution of, you know, not just going after doctors, you know, in Colorado, but now I've got, you know, doctors across the United States and into Canada and so kind of all over.Lesley Logan 12:57  It's so cool. It's so cool. And I imagine, like, some things have changed and made it easier to start a business, because now we have so much technology that can, you know, like, they can just, they can buy this software, and it does a lot of the things that you had to do with other people and by hand. Can you talk about, like, you know, you've had to be it till you see it in a way to, like, go from what you were doing to like being a consultant and like believing in yourself. But I imagine you have to also get these, these doctors, to find a way to be it till they see it, to go from an associate to being a business owner, like, what are, what are the things that you see that they need to do to make that happen?Jill Allen 13:35  No, I think, I think with any business owner, I think I think number one is just being confident to stand in the space and and I truly do the work that it takes, because it is not easy to be a business owner. I don't care what what business you're doing. It takes grit. It takes hard work, and, you know, and it takes, you know, pumping yourself up, even if you don't believe it 100% yet. And I think you know, for all of us, you know, and I see this a lot with my doctors, that, you know, Superman, Superwoman syndrome, you know, where it's like, you know, I need to be doing it all, but I don't know how to do it all. And, you know, and it's just, it's a hard thing to, you know, learn to trust, to learn to, you know, move, move past, okay, you know, I don't know at all. So I can, you know, get somebody else to help me. But yet, I have a little bit of imposter syndrome, because, you know, you know, I've got to go from zero to 300,000 in my first year. I've got to go from, you know, 300,000 to 800,000 in my second year. You know what I mean. And so they're, you know, like, they've got big numbers that they have to hit, but it's all on them. So they think, and, you know, just, just getting out of their own way, if that, if that makes sense, to be like, I always tell my my clients, I'm like, you know, let's, let's just take it like, like we're eating a cookie, just, you know, one, one little bite at a time, and keep moving forward, and then just be sure to look backwards and be like, high five yourself. Like, hey, I just did that. You know, I just, I just got 20 new clients on my books that I had zero before. So high five to me, versus comparing myself to somebody out there on Facebook that got 40 in their first month, and you're like, oh, I, you know, I should have been better.Lesley Logan 15:28  Yeah, yeah. Well, because, I mean, like, you know, SEO is a real thing. Takes a while to get searchable. And then also, like, in that field, similar to the field I'm in, like, referrals go a lot, a long way. So if you're brand new, just don't have it yet. And then the hard thing is, the ideal world is that you only see orthodontist for a short period of time, and you move on like you should get the smile, yeah, and you go.Jill Allen 15:51  Yeah, two years and you're out of there. Lesley Logan 15:52  Yeah, yeah. I appreciate you talking about like, that Superman syndrome, because I do think so many people like I have to do it all. I can't afford to hire people. I can't afford this. And it's like, in a lot of cases, you can't afford not to like you like, it's you're it's, you know, I joke when I hire my first business coach, like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm taking my business to private school, and they're like, what? I'm like, well, you know, public school is great, and that's how I got my education. And I learned a ton. I learned I got to meet so many, I got to see all walks of life. And I'm very grateful for that education. But I need to move a little faster with my business. So it's going to private school, because that's where you meet the networks. Like, I didn't go to a sorority, so, so like, you know, having a consultant kind of can speed up the process, because it helps you see, like, no, you actually don't need to know exactly how the scheduling tool works. You need to hire someone who can do it, because you need to be doing the work with the clients that brings them the money.Jill Allen 16:47  Yeah, yeah. Well, and I think, you know, a lot of times when we're when we're working with clients, you know, the other thing that we're really doing is helping, you know, kind of see that big picture. Because a lot of times, as a business owner, you you don't see the big picture yet, you're still kind of in that step by step, head down. I gotta do this. I gotta reconcile my books, I gotta meet clients. I gotta, you know what I mean, and you're just in a very linear movement with your business. And I think having a coach, you know, to be able to kind of see, like, that big picture, like, hey, you're kind of getting off track, like, like, your head is down and you're working, but you may be veering a little too far in one direction, and you're kind of missing some of these other things. And so you know that, I think that's that's also the beauty of, you know, doing what we do, or having a coach involved, is somebody that can really see that bigger picture and also maybe even help you refocus. Because sometimes you do think that what you think is important is important, and it may actually not be as important as as as you may think, or you may have heard.Lesley Logan 17:56  Yeah, no, I totally, I mean, like, there's an it's an interesting thing about, like, the idea of working on the business versus working in the business, right? And, like, it's really easy. I was, like, working in the business for a few weeks recently, and, like, and it needed to be, I needed to be in the business. We had clients coming. We had a lot of things we're doing. We had events going on. So, like, I was in it, and when I was able to take a step out of being in it, and I looked around, I was like, hold on, what is this ad that's going out? Whoa, whoa. That doesn't make sense to the that is, that is, that's actually the and I got a little mad at myself, like I should have caught that sooner. And it's like, yes, I should have. But also, like, you have seasons of your business, and you, you know, as long as you're maybe what I took away is, like, you know, even if I'm doing three weeks in the business, because that's what's scheduled, there needs to be a day where I just take a little zoom out moment, what's going on, you know, to catch things. Because you you get so close to something, it becomes more important. And then there's that sunk cost fallacy that you just, like, I've worked so hard on this, it has to work. And it's like, you gotta, like, you gotta, like, detach from that as well, and you need someone to remind you.Jill Allen 19:03  Yeah, yeah, for for sure. And it is, it is hard, you know, I say the same thing to my clients. You know, we got to take time to work on the business while we're in the business. And, you know, one of the things that I really, you know, coach a lot on, is really making sure that my doctors really utilize block time scheduling. And I would suggest that for any business owner, and sometimes it feels so rigid, like, you know, I'm a personality that doesn't like to be told what to do. But yet, if I've got, you know, a whole day in front of me, man, I can find 100 things to do with that day if I have not, you know, kind of planned my time out and to have start and stop times, you know, because I can, you know, get dialed into something, and then at the end of the day, it's like, well, what did you do? Well, I worked on this one thing, but did that one thing really, really move me the way, you know, the way I wanted so I totally agree with you. Lesley Logan 19:04  I love that you brought up a lot, and I also appreciate that you're honest at like, you're not someone who likes that because, like, I so I have ADHD, my husband has ADD, like he's a rebel. As far as the tendencies go, I'm an upholder. So, like, I don't need to tell anyone I'm going to do something, but if I say I'm gonna do it, I'll do it. But I definitely had to learn early on, like, if you have three hours to work on something, you'll take three hours to work on that thing. If you have 45 minutes, you'll take 45 minutes, and if it takes longer than 45 minutes, that's okay, because now you can come back to it a different day, but you got to move on to the other things that have to get done. Like, when people are like, oh, I'm gonna, Mondays are my days to work on the business. I'm like, if you don't block out what's happening at nine, 10, 11, 12, you will get nothing done on the whole Monday because you just, you need that. Like, we need timers. We need a lot, whatever it is to, like, tell you, like, we have a kitchen timer, clock, and I'll set, like, Ookay, I'm going to do 15 minutes on this. Okay, do 20 minutes on this. And when I do that, I'm so much more focused. I don't go, oh, what's happening over on my Instagram. I wonder how that post is doing today.Jill Allen 20:57  Yeah, and it's, and I'm a very similar personality, and, like I said, I mean it, that's a hard thing, and that was a hard thing for me to learn, but it definitely makes, makes all the difference. And when, when we are so busy already, it's, you know, it's, I think it's just something we have to do as business owners, even if, even if our personalities rail against it, because mine definitely does. Lesley Logan 21:22  Yeah, yeah, no, I had, I was, I'm a little bit behind on this one project. I'm, okay, I normally don't work after like, four o'clock, which is not true. It's like, means I don't have any meetings. I can't have it after four. And it's kind of like, okay, what does tomorrow look like? What like did I wrap as much up today? Did I put the balls back in other people's courts so that I can just, you know, like, I don't want them to wait on me. And so anyways, I had this thing. I was like, okay, I'm gonna go home, and I spend an hour doing it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm gonna set a timer doing for an hour, and at 45 minutes, I'm like, we're no longer good at this. We did, we did 45 minutes of it, and we have to stop. Otherwise it's actually not gonna be better. It's gonna be a mess. So, you know, like, sometimes I think we even need to, like, put it on shorter time blocks on some of these things, because our brains can only focus for so long on one task, anyways.Jill Allen 22:10  Yeah, yeah. And, and I think just to give yourself permission that I can't force myself into creativity, or I can't force myself into, like, there are just times, my husband jokes, your squirrels are running wild. Yeah, they are, you know, but yeah, and, and I can't, I can't do anything about it, so maybe I need to go take a walk and, you know, unlock whatever it is that I'm, you know, thinking through or working through, you know. And I think just giving ourselves permission to pivot to, even within work, kind of focused things, to be able to say, I can, I can shift or switch this up, it doesn't mean I'm a failure, because I didn't get my block time in. Sometimes I just need to change it up, because that is what will actually help me move, move forward and progress through what I need to get done. Lesley Logan 22:59  Yeah, and I think it's like that permission structure we have to give ourselves the grace and like, also just awareness of, like, how do we like to work? And when do we like to work? Like, when are we most creative? When is it better to be on calls with people? And when is it like, no, please just, I cannot. I need. So I wonder like, you know, you've been doing this for so, so long. Have you ever worried, like, is there going to be enough orthodontists? Like, do you ever get like that? Or do you do, you know, because I have people who are like, they're they have an uncle or an aunt or a friend who's like that, you're going to run out of the there's not enough people for that. For example, we have flashcards. And, like, sometimes Brad and I are like, do we sell all didn't, didn't everyone buy the flashcards already? And then, like, there's a bunch more people, right? And so. And then this guy who manufacture Pilates equipment, his uncle, was like, how many of these things can you make? You know, like, so there's these doubters. Like, you're gonna run out. Do you ever get like that? And like, how do you talk yourself out of doubt like that?Jill Allen 23:55  It's a great question, you know, I guess, when I started this business originally, and when I got into, especially, specifically working with startups. You know, the one thing that I always thought was, I want to be in a business that, that there will always, it's kind of like a wedding, wedding dress, if you're selling, there's always going to be people that are getting married. And the way I look at it, within our industry, at least, there will always be new doctors coming. So I feel like, you know, there's there there is not an end in sight to, you know, unless our industry were to end, which that you know that that's not going to happen. Now is there, and could there be a cap to how big my business, you know, gets? Absolutely. And I think that is probably more of a struggle that I have had when you think about, Do I have a lifestyle business, or do I have a business that is actually going to be something that I can sell, and that's that's probably been something that I have been really working towards and thinking a lot about in, you know, especially in these last five years as you know, as, you know, when I look forward and say, okay, how much longer do I want to do this? And you know, a lifestyle business is great, you know, it gives us great money. It gives us, you know, there's all these things, but my personality says, you know, I want more legs under my business. You know, I want more verticals. And so, you know, good or bad, my personality says, well, well, what, what can I bring on, which is, you know, some of the things that I'm actively even looking at right now at purchasing another pretty big business to kind of bring under the wing of mine. But it's more, it's it's more because, you know, I'm looking at that exit strategy, which I never thought I'd be looking at an exit strategy. You know, I was like, how do I just get this business off the ground? And I want to love what I do, and I do love what I do, but it definitely, I think with any business, there comes this point where you have to make that assessment. Am I good with where it's at, and will I be good with winding it down when I'm ready, if, if there is not an opportunity to sell, or what do I need to do to start looking at those verticals to maybe, you know, kind of take it to that next level of, you know, moving and, you know, hopefully getting, you know, a bigger buyer to come in.Lesley Logan 26:19  Yeah, I thank you for sharing that, because I think, like, you know, when I got into teaching, like, and all this stuff, I was like, I'm just gonna teach, and then I'll retire, you know, and then, like, we started, I started building other businesses that went along with it, because I saw a need. And then when my husband came on full time, he's like, okay, well, what is our exit strategy? Is like, I'm sorry, why are we talking about the end? And you know, then along the way, I met one of my dear friends, Kareen Walsh, and she's been on the show, and she is, like, very big on like, before you start something, you got to know how you want to end it, because it changes what you create, how you create it. And like, if it's going to die with you, that's fine, or if you want to retire, but it continues on, or someone else runs it for you, or you sell it, you know? And there's that and that that changes the systems, it changes the client, it changes everything. And so yes, of course you can, you can, in the middle of your business, go, oh, I'm gonna think about this and make changes. It just, it just is a different route of going through it. So I love that you what a what a bold move like, that's crazy. Did you ever think you were to buy another business?Jill Allen 27:22  No, no, I, you know, I didn't. And when I started this, that was not, you know, again, that that was not, not what I had in mind. I mean, I really within our industry, kind of the, you know, when you look at the sages in our industry, they really were just lifestyle, and they'd wind them down, you know, they'd work to a certain point, and then wind him down, and, you know, and I just was like, that's, it's just not for me. That's not, not my mentality. And so, you know that that has been something I have been actively working towards, and, you know, looking at, you know, and again, like, I go back to my original you know, well, what's the worst that's going to happen? You know, I go after this big business and either it, you know, it doesn't work. You know, I always look at when I'm making business decisions, I try and really take the emotion out of it and just say, does this logically work? I don't want to be leading with my heart, even though my heart may want it. I don't want to lead with my heart. I want to lead with good business decisions. And if it's meant to be, it's going to work out, the doors are going to open. And if it's not, hey, there'll be something else that you know that will come my way. Lesley Logan 28:30  Thank you for sharing that. Like I was just listening to Zarna. Her last name, I'm it's Zarna the G, but she's a comedian, and I just learned a movie, and she was being interviewed on LinkedIn, and so she's like, she said, yes, she's like, the difference between a lot of comedians that I see and the ones that are making the money is like, I'm not attached to a joke. If I tried it three different ways, and it doesn't get the laugh that I'm expecting, it gets tossed out. Because at the end of the day, this is a business and the analytics matter. And if you are, like, no, this is a joke. This is the thing I want. She's like, there's a that's a hobbyist, that's not a business owner, and, I think, like, yes, we all need to be connected to our heart. There needs to be some love and empathy for the people that we're working with. But the end of the day, if you're wanting it to be not even just a lifestyle business even, but like, anything that's actually going to be consistent income for you, you have to take the emotions out of it and go, okay, hold on, if I like 30,000 foot view, is this working? Like, would other people say it's working like, could I, you know, all that stuff. So I think that that's a really great question. Does it logically make sense? We have a thing we're wanting to maybe potentially do. And like, my brain is like, I can do this. I can, like, figure, like, I the business makes sense to me. And then my heart is like, the time and energy and emotion this is going to take is actually I don't have it right now. Like, if I'm going to do this, then I actually need to take some time to set up the space in my life and the other businesses for me to have the emotional pull that needs to be there to push through the obstacles. So, like I can see on a logical standpoint how it works. But then there's the heart. So you have to have both, but you kind of make sure that you're not leaning into one more than the other too much, because it can keep you from seeing the forest for the trees, you know. Jill Allen 30:22  Yeah, well, and I think, I think that is one of the really, you know, tough things. But I also think it's just where, you know, we as business owners grow, you know, where, you know, the Jill Allen that I am 19 years into business, is very different than the Jill Allen I was 19 years ago when I started this business. And you know, when, when I look at these decisions, you know that I'm looking at, you know, I've got, you know, 11 employees that I support. I've got, you know, this, as you're talking about, you know, when I'm looking at bringing on this other business, I'm having to put directors and level, you know, level, you know, things in place in my own business so that I can free myself up if I'm going to run another business, you know, and it's just this totally different way of looking at it, but yet, I don't want to be disconnected from the thing that I love the most, and I absolutely love the consulting so it, it really is, you know, interesting to just kind of sit under that weight of where am I and what do I want? And, you know, I know it's going to be hard. I know, you know, like my husband and I have discussions, you know about this, because my husband also works in the business. He was able to retire from his first career. And, you know, come in and start working in our business as well. And, you know, and we have these discussions, you know, like, you know, are are you going to have the time? Do you have the bandwidth, you know, to do it? And it's, it's, it's hard to kind of sit under that weight sometimes and again, you know, take the emotion out of it. And do I have the time? Do I, you know, I've got, I've got grandbabies. Do I want to give up my time, you know, with, with my grandbabies, when I have to go and do the hard work, you know, of you know, you know, bringing it on and getting another business off the ground. But, you know, I don't know that there's a right or wrong. It's more just can, you know, am I thinking it through, and can I pivot if I need to?Lesley Logan 32:15  Yeah, I agree there's not a right or wrong. It's kind of like, does it work? Does like, I just interviewed my yoga teacher, and he's like, does it serve you? Like, he's like, he's like, most people would say that drinking at the end of the work day doesn't serve them, but some people, if it takes the edge off, so that they can, like, be with their family, what, is it, is it the right answer all the time, no, but maybe so that they're present for their family on that day. It did serve them. And so it's like, we think that things are bad or good or right or wrong, but if it you have to ask, like, is this serving me? And if the answer is yes, the hardest part is that we don't actually owe anyone the explanation. You know, if people are like, oh my god, don't you miss your grandbabies on Saturdays, it's like, that's that's them projecting. And we have to be able to go, yeah, of course I do, but I am so excited to see them on Sundays, or, actually, I see them on Thursday nights. So I think it's just like, you know, the hardest part is dealing with the other people questioning the decisions that we make, and that's really, like, where we have to, like, stand in our like, we're the only person who could decide what's what's good for us, yeah. Jill Allen 33:20  Yeah. And I think there are always going to be those people. I mean, I've, I've had it, you know, you know, oh, you just work so, you know, oh, you're traveling again, oh, you're speaking again. Oh, you know, you know, they like you said, they project that.Lesley Logan 33:33  I get all the time, you're so busy. And I was like, I mean, you I am busy, but if you think I'm tired, that's a that's different, or that I don't like it. I like what I'm doing, and it is busy, but I but I'm also like, I sleep. I work out more than you do.Jill Allen 33:53  Yeah, well, and I always say it, you know, I'd rather work 80 hours for myself than 40 hours for somebody else. So I'll take, I'll take this and the lifestyle that I lead, knowing that I absolutely love what I do, and I love the connections that I make with my doctors. And, you know, there is nothing more inspiring for me than to have, you know, you know, these long term relationships with my clients and have them be like, you know, hey, Jill, I'm a, you know, $3 million, $4 million practice now, I'm a, you know, and to think that the foundation that we built, you know, that that doctor that was so concerned about getting started or, you know, when we were looking at demographics and saying, yeah, this, this location is going to be a great location, you know, let's, let's do this. And then to have them come back and be like, I'm doing it. I'm killing it. I'm, you know, I'm loving life. I made the right decision. I mean, for me, I'm like, nothing's better.Lesley Logan 34:49  That's so cool. I love that. That is so fun, that they get to say that and you get to celebrate with them. It also just lets you be able to turn around until the next person who's worried, like this person was able to do it, and you can do it too. You know. And I think, like, as much as we don't want to look outside ourselves for things, like, sometimes we need proof that what's inside will work, you know, if we, if we work with it. This is Jill, you're so fun. And I think everything you said is applicable to, like, anything we're wanting to do, you know, like, so, thank you so much for sharing that. We're gonna take a brief break and we're gonna find out how people can find you, follow you, hear more of your amazing words. Lesley Logan 35:24  All right, Jill Allen, where do you hang out? Where can people get to hear more of this wisdom, this advice that you have?Jill Allen 35:32  Sure, sure. So if you wanna check out my website, I know probably most people are not in the orthodontic field, but if you just wanna check out the.Lesley Logan 35:40  They could be being it until they see it to be orthodontics, or maybe their kid is, or maybe. Jill Allen 35:44  Yeah, exactly, exactly. So, www.practiceresults.com is my website. I do a podcast called Hey Docs! H-E-Y-D-O-C-S with an exclamation. It comes out every Thursday, and it really is just, you know, business basics. You know, I interview anybody from bankers to real estate to just, just anybody and everybody you know, just, just trying to get good information out out there. And then, if you wanted to reach out to me, you're always welcome to, you know, I'm on Facebook, Jill Allen and Associates, and Instagram as well. So, yeah, just, you know, just any of those places you can you can find me about anywhere. Lesley Logan 36:24  I love it. I'm telling you guys, before I hit record, I was like, Jill on this. I mean, like, you could be, like, you have the best name for anything. You could be a beautiful shoe line, a gorgeous clothing line, you know, a huge law firm like, you just the sky's the limit. You're so great, and you gave us such good stuff already truly, like, I even though I understand, like, oh, I'm like, in this space, but I feel like there's so much in there that, like, we all need to remember. But for the people who are the too long and listen, but want actionable steps, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps do you have for people to be it till they see it?Jill Allen 37:02  You know, I think I'm gonna, I've said this a couple times, but I think anytime you're looking at making a, you know, a decision, just just really sit under the weight of, like, really, truly, what is the worst thing that's going to happen if you move forward with this idea or with this venture. And if you can answer, well, I can handle that, then move forward with it. You know that the beauty of it is we can pivot at any point, and just because you picked a direction doesn't mean you have to stick that direction. And I think you know the beauty of being able to change is, is also going to really just help maneuver you through as you're as you're getting your business or your idea or your vision off of the ground. And then the last thing that you know, that that I always, I've got, I've got two more things that, you know, I kind of live, live by. And sorry, I'm probably going longer than I should. But I, you know, I, I, I truly believe that we can figure out anything. And you know, I have a tattoo on my wrist that says, figure it out. And that has truly been my motto from from the beginning, like there is nothing that we can't figure out. And I guarantee you, if you'll be vulnerable enough to ask somebody for help, successful people will always give you help. They will always give you the right answers. And sometimes it's just a matter of saying, hey, you know, when I didn't understand how to do demographics, or I didn't understand how to read a lease, you know, I would be vulnerable and go out and be like, hey, can you help me understand what triple net means? And people would gladly do it, and now, because of that mentorship, I can mentor others. And so just, just be vulnerable and and don't be afraid to ask. I mean, yes, we've got to have that fake it till you make it, but, but don't, don't be afraid to be vulnerable and ask somebody that knows more. I think most people truly, intrinsically want to help, and, you know, versus want to, you know, squash you and you know, hope that you don't. And then I just, you know, you know, there's a book that that I read, and I'm going to mess up the author's name, but, you know, Brave, Not Perfect. And I believe in that. You know, we should just be brave in what we're doing. We don't need to be perfect. Just, just be brave enough to try it, you know, you'll, you'll come into your own perfection.Lesley Logan 39:23  Yeah, oh, I really, I've not heard that. I want to read that book. I like the title already, and I do agree, like, we can figure it out. And oftentimes, like, if we just actually do what your other thing is, your other point was, was like, what's the worst that's gonna happen? Oftentimes, we actually just have to address the fear that we're having, because then we have that elephant out of the room, and we can actually figure it out. Like, sometimes it's like a two punch. You gotta go, what am I? Why am I struggling so hard to like, what am I afraid of in this conversation? And then, like, go into it. So I agree so much, so applicable to anything in life, not just business. I think it's true. And also you're right, like most people, I didn't grow up like, asking questions. I was like, I should probably know that by now. I should, I should know that by now, and my husband, he'll just ask the question, and I'm like, oh, okay. And then people just answer it, and I'm like, oh yeah, well, that was so that was so easy. Jill Allen 40:14  Yeah, it's easy. Lesley Logan 40:14  That was, that was so easy, you know, because, like, they could just say no, you know, in my life, I've had like, people, like, ask for things to me. I'm like, oh, yeah. And then I'm like, oh, I actually don't have the time to take this on. It's not that I don't want to help you. I just, I'm not in a place to help you in this moment, you know. But, like, that's also not crushing people. It's just, like, an honesty is a really great thing, but it's true, most people will just be like, oh, actually, call this person or it's so and so. Oh, I learned it here. Oh, go read it here. So it's quite it's quite nice. So, Jill, you're so fabulous. And I'm sure we can learn so much about your amazing podcast if we're wanting to do the business stuff. Because, you know what? It all kind of leads itself into the same thing, like everyone has to have good customer journeys, great locations, you know, things that make sense and easy for people to find. So thank you for being you. These tips are amazing. Lesley Logan 41:01  You guys, how are you gonna use them in your life? Let Jill Allen know, let the Be It Pod know. Share this with a friend, especially anyone who's thinking to be an orthodontist we all know, or maybe you have one, and who they could be better. So share them with Jill Allen. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 41:21  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 42:04  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 42:09  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 42:13  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 42:20  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 42:23  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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It's Fuck Yeah Friday! Lesley drops affirmations for abundance and well-being that you can use anytime you need to reset your mindset. She celebrates an inspiring win from listener Nancy about feeling her best physically, mentally, and spiritually—and highlights her own unexpected milestone of teaching in Singapore. This short but powerful episode is packed with practical affirmations and reminders to keep your dreams “on the board” so you can step into opportunities when they arrive.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Affirmations that anchor wealth and well-being into daily life.Nancy's journey to loving her body and building a Pilates sisterhood.The role Pilates played in strengthening her relationship with her daughter.How Lesley turned a 15-hour layover into a teaching milestone in Singapore.Why having goals visible creates space for opportunities to align.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsManifestation Babe https://www.instagram.com/p/DGlHc89JmlB If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the be it till you see it. Podcast where we talk about taking messy action knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan Pilate instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained 1000s of people around the world, and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and be it till you see it. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. Happy Friday. How did we make it midway through October already? My gosh, oh my god. This is craziness. I'm happy you're here. I'm so happy you're here. These are our quick episodes. They're here to remind you of being it till you see it, because it is so easy to fall under, well, I'm just gonna take a lot of masculine action to do things that I think other people want me to do that will make them like me versus what would the version of me that I'm trying to grow towards and glow towards and become do if I was them right now, that's how you be it till you see it. We do a little inspiration, little win of yours, a little win of mine, a little affirmation. But I actually have some extra affirmations for you. These are affirmations to become wealthy as fuck. So I'll read them for you, and they'll be in the transcripts if you want to copy and paste anytime you want, or you can go to the post. We'll have the link below. So, money is an unlimited resource, and I am always in flow with abundance. Every dollar that I spend returns back to me infinitely, multiplied. That one I like. Wealth is my natural state. I attract prosperity effortlessly. The more I expand, the more abundance I allow into my life. I am a magnet for financial overflow, and money loves to support me. So I'll save you more affirmations for at the end. But first we have to go to a win of yours. Lesley Logan 2:12  Okay, you guys sent some great wins. Remember, you can send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions so we can celebrate what you're going on, and then you can hear it months later and go, Whoa. That was a win that I had that's so cool. This is from Nancy Lawrence. She's eLevate person. She'd been to our Cambodia retreat. We love her so much. My win, not just this week, but a forever win. I'm 55 years old, turning 56 very soon, and I can say I have never felt better physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually. Through the practice Pilates, I have learned that my body and all bodies is are precious, beautiful, and I should take care of it as such. It sounds simple, but it isn't, not to me. Today, I eat better, I move better, I love myself better. This enables me to give others the best of me, and it shows I feel it in my heart when I look at who I am today, how my days start, what I do day to day, I would never imagine to be so happy and feel so loved and blessed, not to mention the sisterhood I have found through the eLevate mentorship and the beautiful relationship with my daughter, who is now Pilates teacher and soon to graduate eLevate Five. She graduated guys. Lesley and Brad, you guys are changing lives, and you've changed mine. But doesn't stop there, Lesley, you talk about carrying on Joe's work and the method and exercises, the order, et cetera. I love you for that. I hope I can also be a carrier of that message in the way that I teach and live my life. Thank you, Lesley, for doing what you do in the world of Pilates. I know Jay and Joe are smiling down at you. Last but not least at all. I will see you guys in Cambodia for the second year in a row. I can't wait to see what lifelong change this go around will ignite in me and my dear friend, who is new to the world of Pilates, has already started his own practice and is embracing everything with an open heart. So beautiful. Nancy, it's so beautiful. I'm so excited as well. It's going to be so amazing. Lesley Logan 3:54  All right, a win of mine. You guys, I have wanted to teach in Singapore for a really long time. Really, really wanted to do it. And the truth is is, like, my schedule is not always, like, conducive of like, adding another event onto it, like, we have to plan a lot of things in advance. And I really wanted to, and we were planning our trip to the Cambodia, really, this retreat that we're on right now. Alright, listen to this. We had a 15 hour layover during the daytime in Singapore. And so people who want us to teach a retreat, I was like, oh, we're going to be there for 15 hours. I really want to teach there. I really want to meet the people who've been supporting what we do from afar and have never been able to come to anything in person. Let's do it. And we so we did, we have workshop in Singapore. So I'm so excited, and I share this with you because, like, if there's something you want to do and you're struggling to figure out how to make it happen, one of the best things you could do is just keep it on the board. Just keep it where you can see it, because there will be an opportunity that comes up, and if it's on your mind's eye, like, that's the opportunity for me, like, that's it just worked itself out. It just, it just happened. So anyways, I'm just really excited to get to, like, do that, and I am excited to get, I got to share that with you guys. Lesley Logan 5:12  So, now, some affirmations on radiating in life, affirmations to affirmations to radiate health and well being. My body radiates at the highest frequency of vitality and well being. Every cell in my body is filled with divine energy, strength and balance. I trust my body's wisdom and honor what it needs to thrive. I am constantly renewing, healing and stepping into my strongest self. Feeling good is my birthright, and I all I fully allow myself to receive vibrant health. So you know what to do. Go to the show notes, take the ones you want and read it out loud if you need it. Being it until you see it doesn't happen by snapping your fingers, right? It happens from believing it all the way through, and sometimes we have to repeat a mantra or an affirmation out loud until it just feels like it's in us. You know, it's it's not, life is hard. And I feel you, if you're like struggling, or you're doubting yourself, or you're in a depressed place, like it happens, and when those days happen, you need something you can just repeat over and over and over again, because you are so much more, right, and it's really easy for other things to distract us or get us down, a bad health day, a bad work day, a bad health week, a bad work month, and then we start to doubt ourselves that you need some of these. So screenshot them from the or copy them from the transcripts, put them where you can need to see them and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 6:47  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell unpack the biggest takeaways from mindset coach Brad Bizjack, diving into what it really takes to create change that lasts. They reveal why perfectionism often hides behind the need for certainty, and how emotional leverage—not time—sparks transformation. Through real talk, personal stories, and practical takeaways, they show how knowing your “why” makes the “how” reveal itself. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How “certainty” disguises itself as perfectionism and quietly fuels procrastination.The real reason small, safe actions keep you from meaningful progress.What crossing the “line of lasting change” actually looks like in real life.Why unreasonable dreams push you to take bolder, smarter action.How doubt, pain, and vision each spark identity-level transformation.Episode References/Links:Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://lesleylogan.co/retreatsPilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsBrad Bizjack's Success Accelerator - https://beitpod.com/successThe Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo by Taylor Jenkins Reid - https://a.co/d/4LmmMXAThe Empyrean Series by Rebecca Yarros - https://a.co/d/b1VxT1NLove Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It by Kamal Ravikant - https://a.co/d/e1J9w2YTiny Habits by BJ Fogg, PhD - https://a.co/d/4Ov1GNXWomen Waking Up by Wendy Valentine - https://a.co/d/08CWFHoMissionary Position by Celeste Holbrook - https://a.co/d/gXQBKeeThe Cycle of Galand by Edward W Robertson - https://a.co/d/94ZvPV4 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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It actually happens in an instant when you have the leverage to create that change. For example, people in painful relationships who know they should take different action, but they don't, until something happens and all of a sudden the lever is actually pulled, right?Lesley Logan 0:18  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:01  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the compelling convo I had with another Brad. This is Brad Bizjack in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you did not get your life spiced up. You did not get extra dose of energy. You, you you need to, you have to go back. Brad Crowell 1:21  You're officially missing out. Lesley Logan 1:22  So you'll listen to us talk about him, and then go listen to that one. But you can't skip that one.Brad Crowell 1:27  Cannot skip it. It's a great interview, a great episode. Brad Bizjack is, he is, is very educated on emotional maturity.Lesley Logan 1:38  I think that's a good way of discussing it, yeah. Brad Crowell 1:40  And he, he explains in his programs, which Lesley and I have been students of, how we have connected the dots on things in a way that puts undue pressure on ourselves, right? So like success or security or all these amazing things that like we want and need and desire. But then, what is the like if we haven't laid it out properly, we end up feeling scared or afraid, or like a lot of pressure and all this kind of stuff. And that's why this his conversation was very compelling, because he also uses amazing. Lesley Logan 2:20  Acronyms. No, examples. Brad Crowell 2:23  Yeah examples and quips like short statements that are very thought-provoking. Loved it. Fantastic.Lesley Logan 2:31  No notes. Brad Crowell 2:32  Yeah, yeah, yeah.Lesley Logan 2:34  Well, we're gonna get into that in a second. But first Today is October 16th, National Spirit Day. Spirit Day is an annual observance that takes place on the third Thursday in October, and that's on October 16th this year. This day aims to create awareness for the bullying harassment that the LGBTQ community faces. Millions of people worldwide, identified as queer, and many more are yet to publicly declare their status. Such a large community, people shouldn't be alienated or marginalized just because of theire sexual orientation. But the reality, sadly, is that they are. All over the world, LGBTQ youth suffer harassment because of their identity. There is also a need for transgender individuals to have more protected rights. And so, you know, taking some time today to just see what's going on in your community and how you can support. I would even look up the people who are wanting if you're especially if you in a country where you can vote, look who's saying terrible things about these people and don't vote for them, period. Because here is the deal, it's not going to stop with them. It won't stop with them. If they take away all the rights of LGBTQ, where you live, they're not going to be like now we have the power we want, no, they'll come for someone, next. Brad Crowell 3:43  But it didn't start with them. That's the thing. And I think, I think that's the it's a misnomer that like, oh, wow, they're a huge problem. No, they're only a huge problem because they're the current topic of conversation, and they're and the problem is, is being well, it's being created in a way that it's not real. Right? So they're making it a problem. They're they're pretending that it's a problem because they need somebody to to alienate,Lesley Logan 4:07  Yeah, someone ha,s to be the thing that we all fear. And look, the word homosexual was not in the Bible till 1946, interesting, because I thought that was a work of of words that's been around for thouosands of years, right? So it was put in there to make you scared, to make you conform. And then in the 80s, they used the AIDS epidemic to get you scared and afraid of people and not even wanting to hug people. And now they want to make us all worried about the fucking sports. No one gave a rat's ass about women's sports and tell trans and there's like, 10 people in the NCAA sports that are trans. And when you there was a swimmer who was asked, like, are you worried about trans women in sports? She's just like, no, I'm worried about Republicans becoming Nazis. And I loved that quip. I loved it, because the reality is, is that, like, they're trying every. All of this is to scare you that there's someone different than you that is trying to take something away from you. And the reality is, is that, like bullying is rampant amongst everything. There is, I get bullying of I don't look this enough. I look too much of this. There's, everyone has it. But the reality is, is that there's a community that's getting it more right now, and it is dangerous. It's dangerous because we know that bullying costs lives. People, especially youth, will take their own lives and so it's.Brad Crowell 5:31  Dangerous on multiple levels. It's dangerous if there's an immediate danger, right? And that immediate danger is for people who are in the community that is being targeted. And currently what we're talking about is the LGBTQ community, but there's the, there's, that's the immediate danger, and then the long term danger is societally, right, because they aren't gonna, you know, somehow, like, it's not gonna stop with this community. When, when, when something, when, when the the public perception is finally, like, actually, we don't agree with you. Okay, then they're like, oh well, there's another community we need to be worried about, and they're just going to shift over to another community. They've done it. They've done it over and over and over and over. Lesley Logan 6:10  Yeah, they always do. It was the witches before this, which was just another word for women. And so my I bring, not to bring you all down, because we're gonna bring you back up again in just a second. But like, you have agency here. You can call your congress person. You can make sure that the school is do is taking action. You can also educate yourself, in case you have family members who are upset about it. Like there are ways to actually being in curiosity and ask the right questions that help them understand, you know, what is, to find out what are they afraid of? What are they so afraid of? And then we have to just also start loving more, because the other thing is, is that we just start getting mad at homophobic people, and that puts hate in our heart, and it doesn't make us any better than them. And so anyways, go observe Spirit Day. I love it. Brad Crowell 7:03  Yeah. Lesley Logan 7:04  Okay, we've announced the OPC tour, opc.me/tour so you can see all the dates. I would list all the cities off for you, but I don't have them today, while we're recording this. So they're up now, though they've been up for a couple of weeks, and you want to grab your spot. If you have any questions, let us know. But all workshops and workouts are for any lover of Pilates, new to very experienced and there are CECs, Balance Body is our sponsor. We are so, so excited about it. We're getting closer to you needing to be on that waitlist for Cambodia, because in January, you're gonna get the email that says, hey, hey, you want to get a discount on this? You're the only person who gets it if you're on the waitlist. We're in Cambodia right now.Brad Crowell 7:42  Yeah, actually, literally, Lesley and I are currently in Cambodia hosting a second retreat this year. Next year, we will only be having one retreat to Cambodia, and it will be in the fall, in October of next year, right? So if you want to be one of the group of people that can come, because it is limited, you got to be on the waitlist. Go to lesleylogan.co/retreats, that's plural, to get yourself on the wait list, you can find out all more more information on crowsnestretreats.com. But we will be making an announcement here soon, in January, about the early bird special. So prepare, stay prepared for that. Lesley Logan 8:17  Even if you hear it here, you still have to have the link in the email. So get on the waitlist. In a couple days, we're going to be in Singapore teaching a private event, and finally, seeing the Botanical Gardens. We're so, so excited about it. Brad Crowell 8:29  I'm so fired up about that. Lesley Logan 8:30  We've seen them from, like, a high up view, but we haven't actually been in them. And then, of course, we'll be on our winter tour. So that'll be five weeks long, almost like five weeks long, and then we come home for to unpack, and then we go to Huntington Beach to the Pilates Journal Expo, xxll.co/pilatesjournal, we'll get you links. We'll get you linked to the tickets.Brad Crowell 8:52  Yeah, go to xxll.co/pilatesjournal. Lesley Logan 8:55  There's a ton of people who are going to be there. I'm really excited about it. It's going to be like a reunion for me and some of these friends. So I can't wait, so you should come. And then in March, we're doing the Poland Controlology Pilates Conference. So Karen Frischmann and I are back in Wroclaw. Sorry, my Polish peeps, if I said that wrong, people try to teach you (inaudible) which is not it. It is not even close, I was like, but it's easier to say, it's like, well, that's not the name of your town. So we'll be there teaching a conference together, and then from there.Brad Crowell 9:23  So go to xxll.co/poland yeah.Lesley Logan 9:28  And then Karen, Brad and I are gonna like to-to-to through Europe until the following weekend. We'll be in Brussels. xxll.co/brussels.Brad Crowell 9:37  What do you think weigh in here, should we be saying xxll.co or should we be saying double X, double l dot co? What do you like? Think. Double X, double L? Double x, double l dot co. Lesley Logan 9:47  No, that's too hard. Brad Crowell 9:49  Double X double L. Lesley Logan 9:49  Because people might actually type in double.Brad Crowell 9:53  They might. Lesley Logan 9:53  They, our listeners would. Brad Crowell 9:55  But I, IKYKY. Lesley Logan 9:58  Yeah, but people say that. No one says. Brad Crowell 10:01  Double x, double l dot co. I'm making it a thing. Lesley Logan 10:04  No, xxll.co/brussels.Lesley Logan 10:07  I let you make OPC a thing. No, this is xxll.co or it should be xxll.co, maybe not saying the C-O, because the problem is, it just sounds like too many letters, and then I get overwhelmed. So at any rate, it's also in the show notes, you can just click it, Brussels. These are both in March, and then in April, we'll be at P.O.T. in London. Brad Crowell 10:27  Looking forward to that. Lesley Logan 10:28  Alright, we had an incredible question that was really fun, and, like, got us all chatting in the studio in between classes. Brad, so I thought I would bring the attendees from Essex question, because I just thought, let's talk about this.Brad Crowell 10:42  That's so fun. Okay, the question was, what non-Pilates books do you read? Lesley Logan 10:48  A lot. Brad Crowell 10:49  Okay. Lesley Logan 10:49  I don't read very many Pilates books anymore. I mean, there's only a couple good ones. So, okay.Brad Crowell 10:54  So let's talk about it. Do you prefer a specific type of genre of non-Pilates books? Lesley Logan 11:00  I love a good popcorn book. You know, a popcorn for your brain book. That's how my friend Sue and I talk about, like. Brad Crowell 11:04  What does that mean? Just like. Lesley Logan 11:05  You read the book and you get lost and like, it is not going to change the world. It's definitely not going to change your life. You can almost consume the book in like, two or three days. It's, it doesn't make, change your intelligence in any way. But it's like, it's like a little popcorn for your brain. The books are like, that would signify that as, like, The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo, that author, so good, that book, I read it in two days. I was like, I never have time to read. Right in two days, I have fucking plenty of time to read if I like the book. I don't. So I like that kind of genre, like a rom-com type book is like my go to but you and I are really into the Empyrean series. And I. Brad Crowell 11:45  We sure are. Lesley Logan 11:45  So I post. So I shared with this group. I said, oh, I'm deep in the Imperium series, because it's, like, a great way to, like, get lost in something. And the girls were like, The Fourth Wing, and I'm like, Yeah, I'm in. And they were like, okay, I've heard it's really good. So it's only making its way to the U.K. right now. At any rate. Brad Crowell 12:03  The Empyrean. E-M-P-Y-R-E-A-NLesley Logan 12:05  Yeah, so, Rebecca Sorrows. Brad Crowell 12:07  And yeah, no. Yarros. Rebecca Yarros, yeah.Lesley Logan 12:12  But I get this, so Yasmeen, she posted a picture and tagged me with The Fourth Wing and Tiny Habits. And she said, my recommended reading and I was like, never has anyone ever put those two books in the same like Recommended Reading section, for sure. So I shared it, and someone else was like, oh, are you reading that series? I said, Oh, I definitely am, and I recommend it all the time. And I got a recommendation for another series that's really good. So I haven't read it yet, so I can't tell you about it, but it's really quite fun to see how many people are in the (inaudible) people are into it. It's very, very good, look, it's, it's, it's gonna be it's like, what is it like, called? Romantic fantasy or it's like, what's the genre? Because it's fantasy, but it's not, if you don't read it with your kids, so it's got to have, like, another letter, another word. So while he's looking that up, I.Brad Crowell 13:03  They call it new adult fantasy romance or military fantasy.Lesley Logan 13:07  That's, no, that's, I would call it adult fantasy. That's what I would put it under. And it's great. I really, really like it. It's from a female, like, hero perspective. Brad Crowell 13:17  Oh, they call it romantasy. Lesley Logan 13:19  Romantasy. That's a better, that's good, that's romantasy. I also, other books that I recommend that are non-Pilates, Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It, obviously said Tiny Habits, The Big Leap you're never getting out of that one that was a must read every year. And I, I think we have some authors who had some books come out. Wendy Valentine had a book come out, The Midlife something. And Dr. Celeste had her book come out on like, Missionary Position. So I would say, like, if I've had an author on the pod with a book, I've probably read their book. Or if their book's not out yet, I read it afterwards. And I love those people so much, of course, I'm gonna love their book. But I also recommend, if you're always reading business books, you got to get into the romantic, fantasy. Romantasy. Brad Crowell 14:00  Romantasy. Lesley Logan 14:01  You do you got to get lost in something. Life is too serious. So anyways, those are my non-Pilates books that I can recommend to you right now. Brad Crowell 14:09  Okay, I have gotten into a new author recently. His name is Edward W Robertson. Lesley Logan 14:16  Why does he need a W? His last name is so long. Brad Crowell 14:21  He has written 73 books. Lesley Logan 14:23  There's 73 books in the series? Brad Crowell 14:25  There are, no, he's written multiple series about different things, but I have read 14 books of his so far. Oh, there's a whole nother one. No, I've read 17 books of his. So I've read the Cycles. He's got three Cycles, Cycles of Galland, Arawn and Scour, and basically they are perfectly in line with the other books I've talked about over the years on this pod. They are definitely a fantasy. Lesley Logan 14:48  Like Wheel of Time. Brad Crowell 14:50  Right. That's Robert Jordan, and there's another author I'm a big fan of, Michael, Michael J, What's his last name? Sullivan. Michael J. Sullivan. But this is Edward W Robertson. And what I what I really enjoyed about this was he's also created his own, you know, dynamic duo of these, you know, unlikely heroes, their kids in the in this, they start off in their late teens, and they, you know, end up becoming major players on the world stage over the, you know, length of these 10 books in the one series. The one cycle series is kind of the precursor to it. Another one is a double precursor to it. So he started off. Lesley Logan 15:27  I'm going to tell you, you overwhelm people when you said 14 books (inaudible). Brad Crowell 15:31  Sorry, just listen to them. It doesn't matter. There, it's not even about that. It's not about finishing them. There's just something really enjoyable about them. I think, I think it went through them in like, six or eight months, because they're, they're shorter than the the Wheel of Time stuff, you know? Lesley Logan 15:46  Well, there you go. And so there are your books. You guys get lost in a book, I promise you. It's it makes. Brad Crowell 15:51  You're gonna love it. Lesley Logan 15:52  It's so much more fun. You like different person on the other side. Okay. And also, if you don't want to spend money on it, go to your public library and get a library card. You can actually get audio books and iPad books through your local library. Okay?Brad Crowell 16:07  Yes, you can. If you have any questions for us, you should text them to us. Text them at 310-905-5534, or you can send them in through beitpod.com/questions beitpod.com/questions or you can leave a win or a question and who knows they might end up on the pod.Lesley Logan 16:23  We need some wins.I want to share them on the pod. Okay, let's talk about Brad Bizjack.Brad Crowell 16:29  Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about Brad Bizjack, and we're going to be reinvigorated by his enthusiasm for life. The guy is just amazing. So can't wait. Stick around. Brad Crowell 16:42  Welcome back. Let's talk about Brad Bizjack. Brad is a personal development expert and coach who helps people rewire limiting beliefs, toxic thought patterns and emotional blocks that have been holding them back from success and the fulfillment that they deserve. After starting his career buried in $92,000 worth of debt and struggling for years to get his business off the ground, Brad discovered the power of shifting identity and mindset. Today, he has built a multimillion dollar business served over 70,000 people worldwide, and teaches others how to break free from perfectionism, procrastination and fear so they can step fully into their potential. And I gotta say, there's nothing more be it than the things that he's teaching. It's amazing when you dig in. And Lesley and I have been we've gone through two of his programs. Lesley Logan 17:32  Yeah, he's got a program starting next week, so.Brad Crowell 17:34  Yeah, literally next week. And it's free. Lesley Logan 17:37  It's free. Brad Crowell 17:37  Yeah, you should totally do his free program. Lesley Logan 17:39  Five days. Brad Crowell 17:40  We started there.Lesley Logan 17:41  And also it's like, it happens in the morning for us. So obviously, in the you know, if you're not in Pacific, it's not early morning, it's gonna be some other time. But it was really nice to start in the morning. We go for a dog walk, and just be like, lit up on this dog walk. And you're like, yeah, I'm ready. And I, anything you say, like, oh, I can't do I don't know, or I got this, I can't do it. I'm stuck. I won't know how to do it. Well, he really kind of, like, breaks down, like, some of these stories we tell ourselves, and one of the things he says is, like, when you know what you want and why you want it, the how reveals itself. When you know what you want and why you want it, the how reveals itself. And. Brad Crowell 18:18  Yeah, because it, because, I think that's. Lesley Logan 18:20  I think most people don't know why. Brad Crowell 18:22  Yeah, but I think the easiest thing for people to get stuck on is, how am I going to do that? I might as well not even try.Lesley Logan 18:28  Right. Because, but also, I think they, they know one of the two, but not both, like they know why they want to do something, or they know what they want to do, but they don't know both and their why is so superficial? Well, because I want to make money. And it's like, okay, well, why do you want to make money? Like, you gotta, like, why do you want to do it? Like, I told the story in the U.K. about, like, why I love to teach Pilates, you know? Like, what my mission is. Why is my mission this? And then Linda was like, can you repeat that? And it was like, really cute. It was a long story, but the whole thing is, like, I'm so passionate about what that is. It makes it the h does reveal itself, because opportunities come up or like, people say, say something, and you're like, wait a minute, that is an entirely different industry. But I could do it like the how reveals our tours happen because we knew what we wanted to do. We knew why we wanted to do it. And then this person over here is like, I want to go on a book tour. I'm like, how can we go on a book tour? Right? So, like, I really, really love that. And then we talked about, like, he believes we get so caught up in seeking the how, but struggle to take action. And so it's just procrastination in disguise. And then he said this occurs because of overvaluing certainty. And man.Brad Crowell 19:41  This is like, this was like a mic drop, you know, the overvaluing of certainty. You know what that is, that's actually like, we think that having certainty is going to help us move forward, but when we, before, we get to the place where we feel certain, we get stuck.Lesley Logan 20:02  Or we, he said, like, we take little actions because we're very certain we can do those little things, but we don't take the big actions because we don't know what's going to happen with those. We don't know how that's going to play out or what the outcome will be. So we're like, oh, I'm just going to keep checking the box, checked my email, responded to these people, post it on social, but we're not, no one's actually like, okay, I'm gonna do a class. I'm gonna do pilates and (inaudible) like, because, like, no one comes. Like, I need to make sure everyone's gonna be there. Everything is certain. And oh my god, when we study with him, we did this five day series that you can do next week. We did a couple years ago. And when he told me about certainty and perfectionism. I fucking was like, I felt so called out. I was like, oh my god, this is my problem. I was like, recovering perfectionist. But then I like, let certainty in there. And certainty is just perfectionism, guys. So anyways, I have I really love this man so much. And he said we base our worth on external success, leading to a feeling of burnout, or that nothing feels like enough. And I think this happens a lot. In fact, on an OPC call today, one of the girls who's going through a teacher training so that she feels like burnt out on Pilates, and, you know, she's doing this thing, and we were talking about how like, because when you're in a training program, there's a lot of corrections, like the teachers are correcting you a lot because they want you to know all the things. They don't want you going off thinking you're perfect at it. They want you to know how to do it. You know, you thinking you'd have all these cues. And really it's all this external success, like, okay, when I look like the 100 I have made it, versus this internalization of like the Pilates practice, like the focus in a teacher training is so external. What does the exercise look like? Can you do it well that you end up feeling burnt out and like nothing's ever enough, like you're not good enough to do this. And so I just this, just happened an hour before we hit the record on this. And I feel this so so much, because we're, like, waiting for someone to validate who we are and what we're doing, instead of ourselves, like an internal version of, like, what success is. I love this.Brad Crowell 22:11  So, just so that y'all know, we actually have an invitation for you to join Brad's program, the five day program for free, that's called the Success Accelerator, and it starts in just a few days.Lesley Logan 22:21  It's on the 20th, so it's, this is Thursday. It's gonna start on Monday.Brad Crowell 22:26  The link's in the show notes, but you can go to beitpod.com/success, and like I said, it's free. Lesley and I did this program, and it was really, really impactful for us.Lesley Logan 22:36  Well, what did you like that he said? Brad Crowell 22:38  Yeah. So, Brad said, I just, I love that you had to clarify Brad husband versus Brad Bizjack on the call, I was laughing. Lesley Logan 22:49  I know, because I think I told a story, and I was like, my Brad husband. Brad Crowell 22:52  Yeah, yeah. Brad said, hey, change does not take a long time to do. It actually happens in an instant when you have the leverage to create that change, for example, people in painful relationships who know they should take different action, but they don't, until something happens and all of a sudden the lever is actually pulled, right? That leverage comes from changing at a higher, more fundamental level than just behaviors or capabilities, you can you can say when you have to change, when you are forced to change, right? And I think it's interesting, that's actually where lasting change comes above the line of lasting change. I don't know why. Like, I don't basically.Lesley Logan 23:39  Oh, it's because, like, people often, like, change, and they do a little thing and they go back. They like as, like, if there's a line, and, like, you got to cross the line, and people think, oh, it's gonna take forever to make this change. Like, it's gonna take forever to create a habit. And so they think it's gonna take forever to create a habit, and they do it for two days, and they end up on the other side of not having the habit. And then they have a couple days of habit, and it's actually like no, if you know who you what you want, why you want it, and you make the decision to change, you can actually change it, because it's an emotional thing in your brain that does this.Brad Crowell 24:10  Yeah, I, I've personally experienced this kind of requirement for change. This must change or bad things will happen when it came to smoking cigarettes, and everyone talks about how addicting, you know nicotine is, and they're not wrong, because unless you absolutely have to change, you probably won't, because it is addicting and it will pull you back in but I was singing and I was in a band, and I was smoking cigarettes, and I remember being on stage coughing into the mic because I couldn't sing my own songs that I had written. And it became immediately clear that day I have to choose, do I want to keep smoking, or do I want to keep singing? And that was, like, so easy to decide, because I was like, well, I love singing. I love being in a band. So therefore, goodbye smoking, you're gone, and that was it. That was like, the moment of, I must, I made it above the line of lasting change, and, and, and also, too, you know, sure, did I still have these moments of like, you know, like, like, habit of like, when I used to, you know, where I would be smoking on the card, right into the opposite, whatever, you know where it was. It was just a regular, consistent thing, and I was missing that, yes, but because it was like an easy thing to know I I actually want to sing. I want to sing more than I want to smoke in those moments of trial, it was still easy for me to fall back on the decision I had made, because it was an emotional decision. I was terrified of the idea that I wouldn't be able to perform, you know. So, you know, there, there is like this moment of have to do that will bring about that change, you know. So yeah.Lesley Logan 25:52  And I think that goes back to like you knew what you wanted and why you wanted it, and that made it, the how easier.Brad Crowell 25:57  I knew what and I knew why and then so the how involved not smoking, and that is what made it easy to do, yeah, that's a great, great callback there. I love that. So yeah, we love a callback. Yeah, that was impactful for me. And these are the kinds of things that Brad addresses, you know, on the five days. So, you know, definitely go check that out.Lesley Logan 26:18  I just think that like if you are, if you were lit up at all by his episode, why not? It's free. There's no replays like, why wouldn't even if you watch one day of his stuff, next week, you're going to learn something about yourself that's going to change your life. I still think about like the things that we learned in those five days, even if we didn't pay for the program, like, I still like, like, I was forced to, like, level up in a way, like I was, like, it was great. Brad Crowell 26:48  Yeah, yeah, the Success Accelerator. And then we went on to do another program of his called Rewired After, but the Success Accelerator was absolutely worth it, and yeah.Lesley Logan 26:59  Especially if you just, like, are going if you just have a hard time not talking yourself down, you need someone in your ear who talks you up. You just do. Anyways, we got to get into the Be It Action Items. Brad Crowell 27:09  Yeah, okay, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into these epic Be It Action Items from Brad Bizjack, we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 27:16  All right, finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Brad Bizjack, I'm going to jump in first here. He said he shared three primary ways to shift any belief pattern, and these are the things where I was talking about the have to do. So it was really interesting. He said you can introduce the idea of doubt, you can introduce pain, or you can introduce vision, right? And I think that vision is probably the easiest to talk about, right? That's the one that we. Lesley Logan 27:48  It feels more positive. Brad Crowell 27:49  It does feel more positive, you know. But doubt is something that will challenge a worldview, right? You know, when you have doubt, or when doubt is introduced, it really does start to make you analytical, analyze the thing that you might be doubting. You know, whether that is the way you were raised, or we've always done it this way, or this is the quote-unquote, right way to do it, or the right thing to do. You know, maybe there are other things that you know that that cause doubt. He suggested looking for evidence that challenges those beliefs. For example, if you think money is super hard to make, you can ask yourself the question, but is is that true for everyone? Some people have the the golden touch, as it were, right? We've all heard that, that expression, well, if money isn't hard to make for them, why? How come it's easy for them, but difficult for me, quote-unquote, difficult for me, right? Maybe that's the story I'm telling myself. Right? So how do we change that belief since we have evidence that it's that other people have been able to do it. So that's an interesting idea of introducing the concept of doubt. Two, pain. He said if you can see the consequences of what happens if you don't change and actually live those consequences in your mind, you will start to change. This was my lived experience. Pain, right? I did not want the pain of not being able to perform, not being able to sing, and I could see a life that I did not want if I kept going down the path that I was going out when it came to cigarettes, right? He used the Christmas carol story as an example for this. Scrooge didn't want to make unbearable pain. Didn't want to make change until unbearable pain was linked to staying the same, right? That's the Christmas story. Vision, finally, explain that the your beliefs shift when we create a vision that is vivid enough to excite us into new action, right? So, so like this is where a dream board can come into play, or, you know, vision casting, or you know, reflection, or taking a moment of to yourself, to, you know, to dwell on what the future could look like for you. You know that that can be motivating enough to create lasting change, to put you above that line of change. He said when we can be compelled by a beautiful vision of the future, it gives us a reason to overcome procrastination, or whatever it is that's holding us back, right? So I love that. I thought that was actually, I mean, these are the kinds of things that he just blows by, and why we wanted to talk about him again, because I listened to it, and I was like, whoa. That was, that was a lot right there. That was probably like, you know, he probably studied for like, six to 12 months to be able to concisely say that in two sentences and three sentences, and you were like, there's so much in there, we kind of have to break this down. This when you're when you listen back to the pod, there's so many snippets like that where you're like, whoa, that was profound. Whoa, that was deep. Whoa, that was really worth listening to twice. What about you, though? What was one of your biggest takeaways?Lesley Logan 30:40  So you have to be compelled by a beautiful vision of the future. You really do have to take that's why I like to do our retreats. I like to do some breath work, and like actually think about a year from now. But you need a beautiful vision of the future, because that's so compelling. And he also said, you otherwise will default to focusing on the past and the present. And people do this a lot.Brad Crowell 31:00  Sure.Lesley Logan 31:01  And it's why you're not actually seeing change, because the past and the present don't like that's that's done, and if you keep repeating it, you just get to keep repeating them. But it often becomes more painful because you didn't like, you liked part of it, or we didn't like it at all, and like now here you're feeling a little stuck. He also his bold advice is to have unreasonable dreams, unreasonable, unreasonable, and I do. It's really hard for my brain to do unreasonable dreams. It's extremely hard. But also, like it does force you to think about how you're going to achieve that in a different way, because it's so easy to go back to we talked about that itty bitty stuff, and like thinking it's gonna make a big difference, when really it's just keeping you the same. You kind of have to have an unreasonable dream, because it helps you take bigger action. And then he said taking full responsibility for making that happen. And that, taking full responsibility for making that happen. Lesley Logan 31:54  Wait, say that one more time. Lesley Logan 31:56  Taking full responsibility for making that happen. Whenever I do my schedule workshop or my habits workshop, the amount of people that are responsible for the reason why someone can't go for a walk in the morning. Brad Crowell 32:09  Oh, you mean the amount of excuses slash other people are the problem. Lesley Logan 32:14  Other people are. Brad Crowell 32:14  Not, not the person who's. Lesley Logan 32:16  Yeah, not the person who like has allowed people to take advantage of them, or they've been doing too much for other people, or they simply just didn't have, like, the vision in place to take the it's okay, it's okay to have gone like, oh, my god, I never realized I wanted to do that. And I have been making time for that, like, it's okay. You didn't. You know when you know better, you do better. So now you just got to take full responsibility for making that happen.Brad Crowell 32:39  Yeah, I love that I love the this is, this is step three, or the third, you know, way to create change, you know, with the vision casting, you know. And I think it's scary to dream big in that way, to have an unreasonable dream, it can be really scary because, you know, you I, I, this is part of my story on our business why we you know. When you don't, when you don't dream big, what you're actually doing is you're, you're giving yourself an out to fail and be satisfied with the results of the fail, and that's where I think the problem is. I think it's important to fail. You must fail, right. But we associate failure with mediocrity and pain, right? Instead of learning knowledge and a step further along the path towards success. When we associate failure with pain and mediocrity. It's easier not to have a vision for the future, because then you can't experience that quote-unquote, pain, right? And I know I did this because I would leave myself an out and say things like, it'll be nice if that ever happened for us, you know. But, but the but then it's like, you know, I would love for that to happen for us, but there's an inherent comma. But if it doesn't, I guess it's okay. I guess it was meant to be that this, it wasn't in the cards, whatever, whatever it is the, you know, the phrase that we want to insert there. And the reality is, it's not until you go, but even when, even if it doesn't happen tomorrow, or if it doesn't, you know, the failure will that will happen along this path I'm going to consider, I'm going to persist until I get to that place, you know.Lesley Logan 34:31  Yeah, well, I here's the thing. I think a lot of people weren't given the opportunity to fail. That's not the world that most of us went to school under. You had to pass, and if you didn't pass, you were, like, it was not okay. So like, I think if you are having a hard time being having an unreasonable goal or failing, then you must go to beitpod.com/success because you are going to hear that even Brad hasn't hit a single goal in six months or six years, I think, six years, six years, he hasn't had a single goal, maybe it's eight now at this point, since we met like and it's not because he hasn't tried hard or had great success. It's because he sets unreasonable goals for himself to make himself work harder than last time, and then they like reflect upon what they like, why they maybe didn't hit those goals, but like what they did do. And it's just really, really cool. So beitpod.com/success. Go take it. Go relisten to the episode. Get fired up. Let us know if you sign up for this program. Brad Crowell 35:27  Yeah. We want to know. We want to know. Lesley Logan 35:28  We'll probably even see you there. Brad Crowell 35:29  Yeah, I think we're gonna do it, too. Lesley Logan 35:30  Yeah. I love the classes. 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Lesley Logan welcomes mindset coach Brad Bizjack for a conversation that digs deep into why so many high-achievers get stuck in surface-level strategies. Brad shares his journey from being buried in six-figure debt to building a multi-million-dollar business, and reveals the missing ingredient most people ignore when trying to change: identity. If you've been hustling without the results to show for it, this episode will challenge the way you think about success and who you believe yourself to be.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why over-studying and perfectionism often mask procrastination.How overvaluing certainty leads to playing small and staying stuck.The “line of lasting change” and why identity shapes your results.How doubt, pain, and vision are the three ways to shift limiting beliefs.Why your peer group and environment influence your habits and outcomes.Episode References/Links:Brad Bizjack's Website - https://www.bradbizjack.comBrad Bizjack's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/BradBizjackCoachingBrad Bizjack's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/bradbizjackBrad Bizjack's Program: The Success Accelerator - https://beitpod.com/successTiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/hkmaWEOTim Robbins Events - https://www.tonyrobbins.comGuest Bio:Brad Bizjack is a personal development expert and a master mindset strategist. As a multi-7-figure CEO of a transformative coaching business, Brad boasts over a decade of experience in igniting human potential. His mission is clear and compelling: to awaken individuals to their boundless possibilities and empower them to create the extraordinary success and freedom they truly deserve. Having touched the lives of over 60,000 individuals across more than 40 countries, Brad is renowned for his ability to shatter mediocrity and inspire profound, lasting change. He excels in uncovering and dismantling the limiting beliefs and toxic thought patterns that lurk in the shadows of the mind, unlocking the doors to unprecedented achievement and fulfillment. Beyond his professional accolades, Brad is a devoted husband to his college sweetheart, Janiece, and a father to their 4 year old daughter Lily and dog Oliver. 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Very first call with that coach changed my life fundamentally forever. I was telling her, I'm doing all the podcasts, listening to the books, reading the books, I'm doing all the things. Why isn't it happening for me? I want this to work so bad. And she said, very calmly, Brad, you are so attached to success that you're missing the whole point. You're under the impression that you shouldn't be where you are right now. Business, success and money, it's never going to make you happy. It's rewiring your mind for happiness that'll make you successful. Lesley Logan 0:39  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:17  All right, babes, I'm keeping this quick because our guest day is gonna blow your mind. Get your notebooks out, get your pens out. Get ready to hit rewind. If you're driving in your car, make sure Siri listens to you so you can rewind whenever you need to because this episode is an episode I've wanted to have for over a year. For over a year I've wanted to have this episode. So, Brad Bizjack is our guest today, and we're gonna talk about perfectionism, certainty, achieve, being an achiever. And literally, how do you actually change your life? How do you actually be it till you see it? So stay tuned all the way to the end. You don't wanna miss it. Here's Brad Bizjack. Lesley Logan 1:52  All right, Be It babe. Get ready. Just get ready. I already know it's gonna be amazing. I'm so excited. I wanted this person on the pod, since I heard him on my old coach's pod. Here's the deal. I remember seeing this guy's name on my feed in several podcasts, okay? And I was like, okay, someone's doing a launch, that's fine. And then I saw him on my old coach's pod, and I was like, you know, I haven't listened to her pod for a while. I'm gonna listen to this guy so I'm walking through the streets of Cambodia right before we're out to have a retreat. And I listened to this thing, and I was like, oh my god I didn't realize I'm stuck. I'm, this is the feeling I'm having. I'm feeling stuck. So I'm gonna sign up for this. So I told Brad, my husband, Brad, I said, babe, I signed us up for a launch. I think I want to be launched at it's been a while, so let's do it. Let's just like, let's just go through someone's thing. Let's just get taught. Let's get our cup filled, and then we'll just see what kind of emails come through. Because of the timing, my husband actually was on Hong Kong time, meaning when we got back from Cambodia, he was up every day at 5am and your calls were at like, 6am our time, something early. Brad would never, ever he would have to watch replays. We dog walked every morning listening to you. And of course, the day that you're like, okay, I'm running this program. We're like, okay, we're the first to sign up. Like, we're already in, and we stuck with it for, like, whatever, six months, a year. It was amazing. So Brad Bizjack is our guest today, and the and the reason I wanted to have him on is because of what you're gonna hear right now. Brad, what do you rock at? Who are you? Tell us everything about you.Brad Bizjack 3:18  First of all, that was, like, the best way of getting into our each other's worlds I've ever heard like, what a crazy story. So grateful for the opportunity to be here. I help people rewire the limiting beliefs, toxic thought patterns, limiting emotional patterns that are getting in the way of the success, freedom and fulfillment they really deserve that they don't really go know are going on behind the scenes. So we help people identify that and shift that. Lesley Logan 3:41  I mean, I think that's there's so many people who need that. Like, that's.Brad Bizjack 3:45  Like everybody. Lesley Logan 3:45  Like everybody, most people don't know they need it. And the ones that do kind of get overwhelmed with, like, all of the things, like, they get involved in that perfectionism. Like, I gotta check this box. I gotta do this thing, and if I just read this one more book, then, then I will be fixed, right? Brad Bizjack 4:01  100% I think people will use over-studying as like procrastination in disguise and not even realize they're doing it just because they're overvaluing certainty. And we can go more into that if you want, but yeah, that's a very, very common thing we see. Lesley Logan 4:15  You are correct. I actually looked up like signs of imposter syndrome, right? And or the like, types of imposter syndrome, because, like, there's imposter syndrome, which is, like, you're new at something, so you are going to feel that way because you're new at something, and that's great. But also, then there's like, the imposter syndrome when you're, like, actually qualified to do things, but you're you're feeling like an imposter. And so I was teaching on this, and so I did some research, and one of the signs that you are causing that is that perfectionism. If I just get one more certificate, if I learn one more thing, if I study this, and I'm a Pilates instructor who teaches Pilates instructors, and they'll go, I can't take your business class, because, actually, I needed to study this Wunda Chair. And I'm like, no one even knows what a Wunda Chair is, like until they know what Pilates is, like, no one cares. You need to know how to run a business that doesn't burn you out. Like, but you but people will overwhelm themselves. So can we talk about that perfectionism, certainty, like, what it what is, what are the signs that people are doing these things? Because I think sometimes they don't even see it in themselves. Brad Bizjack 5:13  Yeah, I think, you know, when we talk about rewiring limiting beliefs and toxic thoughts, like you said, I don't think people know they're doing it. But if anyone's ever been in a situation where they know they want their life to change and they just can't get themselves to take action, or there's a limiting behavior they participate in and they don't know why they do it, even though it's not serving them, or they know exactly what to do and they're procrastinating consistently. Or they're in a spot where they just can't get themselves to move and they see their laptop staring at them, begging them to change their life, and even though they care so much, they just don't care in the moment. And there's this piece of you that says, I know I'm meant for so much more than what I'm getting right now, but for some reason, I can't get myself to move or take action. Any of those are some of the most common symptoms that I see. But there's also one on the flip side, and that's calling out all the achievers in the room, the people that have taken the action or forced themselves through willpower to get moving. Those people end up basing their worth on more, more success, more money. And so it feels like their worth is a moving target. So they'll bounce from goal to goal, peak to peak, to do list, to to do list. Nothing feels like enough, and everything they do just feels like they're battling burnout. So if you're in a spot where you either are constantly seeking the how, which is basically exactly what we were just talking about, glorified procrastination, and let me actually backtrack on this a little bit, because I think it's really important, we need to know the how, just not right away, right? You can't head east looking for the sunset, right? It doesn't work that way. And so when you know what you want and why you want it, the how reveals itself, but when you get so caught up in seeking the how, because of living in this fear of not being certain, then you end up just tiptoeing around the edges of your dream, playing not to lose instead of playing to win. So any action you do take is you mistaking movement for achievement, and you'll take little, itty bitty actions instead of the ones that will actually yield results. And so you feel like you're spending all day on this dream, but you're not getting anywhere. And the main reason is because you are overvaluing certainty at a very high level, which is really what perfectionism is. It just means that you are afraid of what happens if you're not totally certain, and that somehow it's going to mean that you're unworthy. If you think about the human brain, its job is not to make you happy, its job is to make sure you survive. And you see people all the time saying, well, I self-sabotage. I get in my own way. Well, it's physically impossible to self-sabotage. Think about it. Your brain is a survivalist. Its job is to keep you alive. So why would it ever cause you harm? What's actually happening is you're just meeting a need, and the survival-based need that's embedded into all of our DNA is the need for certainty. And when you overvalue certainty. What actually happens is like, think about it, millions of years ago, you weren't worried about building your Pilates business or whatever it is. You were worried about the saber tooth tiger that was hiding in the bushes that was going to eat your baby, right? You you didn't have the these you weren't worried about success and fulfillment. You were worried about staying alive. Well, we don't have the same threats, but we do have the same mind. And so we link up putting ourselves out there on social or starting a podcast or sending an email or prospecting whatever, or starting a new fitness regimen. We we link it up as a survival-based threat when it's not, it's just misplaced. And so that's what a lot of people do. And I see people over-study all day long, and they use personal development as a way to escape developing personally, and it just gets in their own way.Lesley Logan 8:51  Oh my God. Everyone hit rewind. That was the most amazing, that is the most amazing thing I've heard. And I also think, like, what a great clip. And like, we can it's a great question to ask yourself, like, am I, am I doing this to escape, you know, am I? Am I? Am I working on this thing one more time? Tweak to to busy ourselves from what it actually is, which is the change we have to make. And change is really difficult. It, I don't, I don't, I actually want to say, I don't know that change is actually that difficult. Because, from what I understand about studying habits and mindset, right? So during the pandemic, I was like, I need to figure out why like, some people make a habit and some people don't like what's going on here. And also, I had a great yoga teacher who was like, that, we always wanna make things that are right or wrong, bad or good. And he's like, actually, that's not how the world works, like because if it's serving you like it could be bad for one person, but not for you, right? So I was like, okay, and I started with BJ Fogg, and he said there's no such thing as a bad habit. Every single thing we do is serving our mind. Our mind actually, truly lives off of what makes us feel good. And, so if you're like, but I hate scrolling, it's a bad habit, right? But you, when you scroll, something is happening in your mind that is giving you relief, excitement, joy, or it could even just be like, like, you can just like, exhale, right? So your brain isn't doesn't know bad or good. It knows shame and judgment doesn't make me feel good, and these things make me feel good, and so we actually create habits instantly based on emotions. So that's why I think that change isn't hard if we know how our brain works. Brad Bizjack 10:31  100%. If you think about change, change does not take a long time to do. It actually happens in an instant when you actually have the leverage to create change, right? Like so many people have had a time in their lives when they've dealt with a really painful situation, like a tough relationship, or, let's say, let's say that they weren't exercising or eating well, or so anything like that, and they've known that they should take a different action, but they haven't gotten themselves to do it until one day when something happens, and all of a sudden, some lever is pulled, and all of a sudden it's easy and it's not hard anymore. It's because in the moment, you started shifting the beliefs and the emotions that were going on behind the scenes to create leverage to actually move, and there's actually a reason why this happens. And I'm happy to dive into how behavior change actually works in people. If you want me to dive deep into that, I can. But if we think so, let's say most people, most people, if you imagine like a big triangle with different like levels in this triangle, at the very base of this triangle is your 3D environment or your results. This is really how life is. Now, most people don't recognize that all of life is cause and effect, everything. And if you obsess over the effect, you forget the cause. And if you don't focus on the cause, you can no longer influence the effect. Well, most people think that their life circumstances are the cause of how they feel, how they live, everything. They think, I don't have this money, therefore I can't be happy. I can't take different action. I can't grow a big business. I don't have a big business, therefore I can't ask people to join my business, right? It's, it's backwards thinking. It's once I have a different life, then I can take a different action. So what most people end up doing is they sit around complaining about their circumstances. And the challenge with complaining is you only complain about things that you could change. You're just too afraid to, right? So you don't complain about gravity. You complain about money. Well, money is something you can make right now if you want to, you can attract it anytime you want to. So it starts at the bottom of this pyramid with your 3D environment and your results. Now most people, they think that if they focus on what's not happening in their life, somehow magically, it's going to change, and it doesn't. If I could give one calling to everybody here, it's the fact that you are 100% responsible for every single part of your life, even the parts that are not your fault. Now before you want to punch me in the face, let me explain, right? I don't mean that that thing that happened in your life is your fault. You are not to blame. Blame focuses on the past and what went wrong. Responsibility means the ability to respond. This is how I'm going to perceive it, move about it, go forward in the future. And that's everyone's responsibility, regardless of what happened in your life. So once you start taking responsibility for your life, you start trying to impact the cause of a different 3D environment of results, and you step up one level in that pyramid to behaviors and habits. And most people, they try to form a habit. It takes 21 days to form a habit. You see all this stuff, well, how many people listening have ever done really, really good for about two or three weeks, and then all of a sudden they fall off? There's a reason why. Because when you try to change at a behavior level, meaning, take a different action, which isn't a bad thing. It's not bad if you want to, let's say, lose weight or gain weight, or whatever your goals are, if you take a different action, it will yield a different result when done consistently over time. The problem is that when you try to change at a behavior level, you have to negotiate with the mind. You automatically question if you are capable of making it happen. So it feels like this constant fight, and you have to rely on willpower. Willpower is push motivation, right, and we all use willpower sometimes. Nothing wrong with willpower. But if you rely on it, it leads to one thing, and that is burnout. We need to get to a place of pull, where hard work isn't hard work, where you just move. So when you are changing, from a behavior perspective, you're wanting to know, am I doing it right? You're seeking the strategy first, the how, right, and when you crave the how over crave the how, you likely don't actually take the actions that will yield the results. So what influences our behaviors and habits? Go one level higher, and that is your capability. And most people don't recognize what's influencing their capability are three things. Number one is what you consume. If you consume social media gossip on a daily basis, that's not really going to help your sales habit, right? If you can consume news media, that's not going to really help with practicing gratitude, right? It's going to hurt it. So number one is what you consume, because whatever goes in your eyes and ears comes out your mouth, and it leads to the second thing, which is skills. You, let's say that you're still that you're trying to grow a business, and the habit you're trying to deploy is consistent sales or prospecting or marketing? Well, you need to study sales and marketing. The skills of those things are required to change the habits and therefore change the environment. And so we need different skills. If your skills that you're studying is okay, I just want to learn how to bake cakes, but your goal is to grow a business, well, it's mismatched, right? But the third thing that's most powerful, is, that it influences your capability, is your peer group. Your life is a direct reflection of the expectations of the people you surround yourself with. And we can have a whole freaking podcast episode on this alone. It's so important. So these three levels are temporary behavior change. Anything at the skill at the capability level, behavior level and 3D environment level, it doesn't seem to last. And if it ever does, it's because we're changing at a higher level than that. And so it's not bad to change these things. Your capability does influence your behaviors and habits, and that does influence your environment, but it never, most people never decide to change above the line of lasting change, which is what influences all of this. Before I go into that, you seem like you have thoughts, my friend.Lesley Logan 16:53  Well, I just, I do, because you just said, like, most people don't go above the line of lasting change. And I think, like, that intrigues me, because it's like, are we saying that like, they'll do enough, they start to get going, and then they, like, revert back, or they just kind of stay at this place that's like, good enough. Like, tell me what the line of lasting change is.Brad Bizjack 17:14  Well, the strongest force in the human personality is the need to stay consistent with who you already think you are. Lesley Logan 17:20  Oh, yes. Brad Bizjack 17:21  And so if you believe or identify as a failure or think that money is hard to make, you can try all day long to change, but you're gonna go back. You're gonna find a way, because life will, whatever you believe, will determine the level of potential you tap into. That determines the actions you do or don't take and how well you do them. That determines your results, and it literally reinforces what you believe. That's why, right above this line of lasting change, if you actually want to make change, it's your beliefs and values that's that's the next step, that's what actually influences lasting change. So you mentioned, do people go back? They'll go back to what they believe, what they value, and how they identify always, they'll find a way. And so before I explain that, does that make sense so far? Lesley Logan 18:07  Yeah, that does. And I think, like, where I, where I, like, my brain is like, okay, so I also know that the brain is like, dissonance. So if, if, if I, if I think I'm a failure, but I just have to walk around going, I'm not a failure. I'm not a failure. Like, I don't know, like, I don't know that that is like, the answer, right? Like, so how do I go from like, seeing myself and believing that I'm a failure and then actually truly seeing myself in value that I'm not a failure?Brad Bizjack 18:35  Yeah, there's three ways to shift any belief pattern. Number one is doubt, right? If you introduce doubt to this and so that is real life examples, right? If, let's use the example of money is hard to make, right? That's a belief that a lot of people have. Well, if that is the belief, what evidence do you currently have supporting that? Because you're likely overly focusing on it. If you introduce doubt to that belief and say, well, not hard for John. It's not hard for Lesley, like and you surround yourself with evidence. Is that actually true? Or is that something that I was just told growing up? Rich people are greedy. Is that actually true or if I take a look around at all the people that I know that have money, they're the ones giving the most to charities, right? So it's evidence that shows that that belief is false. But the challenge with this is changing at a logical level is very, very hard, right? If most people don't recognize that, it's next to impossible to logic and reason your way out of anxiety. It just makes the anxiety worse. It's because it's, at a nervous system level, it responds, your body responds way faster than thoughts ever will. So we need to change our beliefs in other ways, and that is pain. We talked earlier about how people like how change is not really that hard once you have leverage, if you can see the consequences of what happens if you don't change, a nd actually live those consequences in your mind, you will start to change. I was at a Tony Robbins event years ago, and he shared something that really made an impact on how I viewed behavior change. And he used the example of a Christmas carol, Ebenezer Scrooge, right? And how he's a total butt head, super mean to all these people, because he thinks that that's why he's successful. It's not why he's successful. It's not why he's successful. He's brilliant, he works hard, all these things. And his life was going pretty bad, and he just kept on going until three until one night, three neuro associative conditioning specialists showed up at his house that goes to Christmas past, present and future, and they linked up unbearable pain to the way that he's lived up until now, the way that he's living and what his life will look like if he keeps living that way. And when you're boxing from the left, from the right and behind you, guess what you move. Most people value comfort and safety and certainty, so they don't want to give themselves a healthy dose of pain. They don't want to see the consequences of consistently doing it this way. And people are like, well, I know the consequence is going to hurt me. It's going to hurt my kids. Everyone has a leverage point, but sometimes that leverage point isn't your stereotypical oh, it's going to hurt my finances. Oh, it's going to hurt my kids. Your job is to find out what it is that you actually will have in your life that's going to cause you pain that you care about, that'll get you to move. That's the second way to create a change. The third is vision. Human beings are driven by their need to avoid pain and gain pleasure, right? What we just talked about is pain avoidance, and that's very strong, and typically the most strong, but we're also driven by pleasure, and when we can be compelled by a beautiful vision of the future, it gives us a reason to overcome this. So if we think about what identity is, the identity of I'm a failure, that is just a strongly held belief, right? So beliefs and values. Beliefs are just feelings of certainty. That's all it is. And a value is an emotional state you live in, and value feeling, right? So if we think about a belief as let's use the example of the sky is blue, most people think that. But what about during sunset? What about at night? What about sunrise? What about when it's raining? What about the scientific answer that it's not any color, right? It introduces doubt. So we have these beliefs based on evidence in our life, whether that is our upbringing, trauma, consistent results that reinforce this feeling of certainty, until we introduce uncertainty to that certainty. So it's so interesting, the thing that you're craving the most of, certainty, that's the very thing that's keeping you in the exact same spot, right? If we look at it from a values perspective, most people don't recognize they have values conflicts going on, right? Most people value success, but they equally value avoiding rejection, and so that's going to create conflict. And all of this rolls up into your identity, who you think you are. So those three things, shifting the identity through doubt, pain, and there's other ways too, and vision, shifting your beliefs and shifting your values that automatically influence your capabilities, automatically influences your behaviors and habits, cascades down right into different results. And we can do a real life example, or we can move on. But the whole point is, most people just fall back to where they are because they have a belief at a fundamental level, this is who I am, and your brain will always default to going back there. Lesley Logan 23:18  Yeah, I do want to do a real quick example, but I want to say, like, probably not a decade ago, but a long time ago, I was listening to a podcast, and I really, really so wish I could find this episode, but it was talking about how, scientifically, they can prove that your brain will tell your body exactly what you're thinking. So they actually took these people and they told them they were going to brand them. They put them in a room. They blindfolded them. They had the fire making the noise, they had the sizzling. They said, This is what the branding is going to look like. This is what it's going to be like. This is going to happen to you. Then they like, did the sizzle, then they touch them with a pen. And some people's arms developed a like a sore, a redness mark in the shape of the branding that they said they were not branded. No one was hurt doing this thing. But it's a scientific experiment, and they have also studied people who like, if you tell yourself, I'm I'm fat, and you're someone who is wanting to lose weight, that's a journey you want to go on. They have actually seen that those people do produce more fat, have bigger fat cells, all these different things, versus people who don't have a judgment about how they look. Their cells look quite different. Another study they did was a guy, a doctor, who wanted to know if I scrape a knee or if I drain a knee, which one of those things is actually helping these people's knee issues, right? So they had to take three groups. Had to take a group of people who needed this, but they did nothing to. They had to take a group of people that they just drained, and they had a group of people that they just like, scraped right. Every single person got put under, got the same music, was told what the surgery was going to be like, and then they waited to see what happened. And the people who had nothing to their knee, nothing, no draining, no scraping, they did two little pricks, put 'em under, play the surgical video while they're in anesthesia, they had the same results as people who had anything done. And so is this point that, like, our brains are so powerful, they literally tell us things. And so it's so important what we are telling ourselves that we have to know. So I just wanna, like, highlight everything you said, because it is really, is really important that we, we tell ourselves the things we actually want to hear we want our body to do. Yeah.Brad Bizjack 25:31  Well, you know what's interesting, too. Have you ever noticed that when a lot of people do affirmations, it doesn't really stick? Why? Have you ever thought why that is and it it's because they're not telling themselves powerfully. When you are about to have a surgery or something like that, and you tell and the brain genuinely thinks something is going to happen, it is just like you said, so incredibly powerful, so powerful because the belief is held so strongly that this is going to happen. That's how powerful your brain is. But what we typically do when someone pulls like an affirmation card, right, and it says, I am worthy, and your brain goes bullshit, right? Or I am abundant. Have you seen your bank account? It's because it's done through less conviction and certainty. It's done through the lens of basically being passive. And so if you think about all these scenarios, these scenarios are from a place of this is it's almost like this is fact, where a belief is being communicated with absolute conviction. And so to the degree in which you can be convicted in your statements about yourself, that's the degree that behavior change happens. And once you do your brain just it goes to war for who you think you are or what you think is going to happen. That's why, when someone is in a space where you identify them as a success story, the worst things in the world could be happening for them, and you know without a doubt, they'll be completely fine. They'll figure it out. Because you always default back to what you feel most convicted about.Lesley Logan 27:05  Yeah, real life, example, and, and if it's possible, I, we didn't do this. We didn't actually talk about, like, how you got to, how you got to be so amazing. (inaudible) Just in case, people think, oh my god, easy for you to say, Brad. Like, life must be so easy for you. Like, you know, like, I think some people again, the brain is like, okay, well, Lesley and Brad just have it together. Everything works out for them. Somebody, okay, really quick. So I have a bot that is trained up 10 million of my words. And someone asked it like, have you ever had to handle a setback? And my bot thankfully said, yeah, daily, yeah. So anyways, go ahead.Brad Bizjack 27:43  So I'll share kind of a little bit of backstory. I was, came out, out of college, $92,000 in debt, and at that stage in my life, I wanted more money. I wanted to be able to add avocado without having to worry about overdraft in my bank account, right? Like, that's what I really wanted. And I found online business, and I was like, this is going to change my financial circumstances. But really what I wanted at that stage in my life was to be the breaking point of mediocrity in my family history. I wanted something I could chase after, and so online business was my ticket. A lot of people have other vehicles. That was mine. There was just one problem. It didn't work. I spent seven years, eight years, never making more than $24,000 a year as a group fitness instructor trying to get a business off the ground. I also had a corporate job, and I'll share a little bit of backstory with that in just a moment, but I would try to get this thing off the ground, and it didn't, It didn't happen. And so my mentor told me, dude, you need a mindset coach. What you're doing clearly isn't working. And I was like, but I'm $92,000 in debt. There's no way that I can hire a coach. And she's like, I'm gonna tell you, man, if nothing changes, nothing changes. So I maxed out a credit card, went $98,000 in debt, hired a coach. Very first call with that coach changed my life, fundamentally, forever. I was telling her, I'm doing all the podcasts, listening to the books, reading the books, I'm doing all the things. Why isn't it happening for me? I want this to work so bad. And she said, very calmly, Brad, you are so attached to success that you're missing the whole point. You're under the impression that you shouldn't be where you are right now. Business success and money, it's never going to make you happy. It's rewiring your mind for happiness that'll make you successful. At that stage, I was resenting everything in my life. I was saying it was wrong in some way. I wasn't seeing life happening for me. So I bought a ticket to a conference to really work on shifting my beliefs. I didn't have this technology back then. I didn't understand all this stuff back then, I just knew I needed, I just knew I needed to change my mindset. That's all I labeled it as back then. And I remember buying the plane ticket, hotel, all that stuff in San Diego, and about a month before that event, I got fired from my job. Now I'm $98,000 in debt now. No income, no savings. But luckily, I had that plane ticket, and I fly across the country, land in San Diego, go to the grocery store, buy peanut butter and jelly, like I did 100 times a day at that point. And I overdrafted my bank account on peanut butter and jelly, and it was just this, this place of defeat, where I just felt like nothing was ever gonna change, and I walk into that conference tail between my legs, and the topic that day was all about how the human mind works, and shifting your belief systems and identities and values and all these things. And it changed everything. We went on to pay off that 100 grand in debt within a year, we retired my wife from corporate America, we built up a million, multimillion dollar per year business. We've served 70,000 people all over the world. And now we have a little girl, and I'm going to be the dad that I want to be for her, and be at every single every single dance recital, or baseball or whatever it is. And it was because of shifting above the line of lasting change. It was because I had the courage to look at those things that most people avoid. And that's my calling to everybody here. And so if we do a real world example of this pyramid, that's literally what I did. If we look at the left side like, imagine that, that pyramid, that triangle, one identity is, I'm a failure right? Well, cascade that down. What does a failure believe? Success will never happen. Money is hard to make. What does a failure value? They value security. They value safety, right? So what does that do to my capabilities? What am I going to study if I believe I'm a failure? The news, social media. Who am I going to surround myself with other people that identify as failures to prove these beliefs true. So what happens to my habits? I'll just go through my day. I'll grab a beer at the end of the day, sit in the couch feeling sorry for myself, watching Friends reruns. And so what happens to my environment? Same overdraft, same bank account issues. That was my life. When I shifted this, everything going on behind the scenes, and started identifying as, let's use the example of a successful entrepreneur, right, just as an example. Or let's just use I am successful, right? Well, what's a belief system that comes from someone that identifies as successful? Money flows to me, or, you know, business is service, things like that. What does a successful person value? They value success, freedom, love, contribution, awesome. So let's go down to capabilities. What skills am I studying? Persuasion, marketing, sales. Okay, what, what am I consuming? Positive, uplifting books and videos and things like that. I'm not spending my time on social media and all that stuff and wasting my brain away comparing to the to the world. Who am I surrounded by? People that have what I want. So then what cascades into behaviors and habits? I'm focusing on the most important activities, the marketing, the sales. I'm making, the offers I'm putting myself out there in the world. So what happens to my environment? Naturally make more money, naturally serve more people. It all, it all cascades. So the whole point of all of this is my life didn't change until I changed above the line of lasting change. And it's very easy to look at success stories or people that have some semblance of what you want in any capacity and see, okay, yeah, easy for you to say monster man, but it doesn't look at the years and years and years of struggle that it took for me to get to a point where change became a must, and, and that's so that's how everything kind of, kind of shook out. Lesley Logan 33:30  I, thank you for sharing that. And also, like, I'm sure everyone heard like, the be it till you see it in that like, in just like, okay, so if you are, you took the first triangle, like, I'm failure, I'm poor, whatever. You go through, like, that's where you were at. And then you take the triangle that you want to be, if I am a successful person. These are the skill sets. This is the mindset. These are people I'm hanging out with. That's be it till you see it, right. Like, that's truly like, why this podcast exists and, like, why I get so excited. Because as I hear you tell that story, I can think of the times, like, all, all the amazing times I had in my life that took me the next level. I did those things, right? Like there was a day, so I was homeless, and that really without address. I had couches to surf on. I had totaled my car leaving my ex's house. So that's fun. And the studio that I rented space for was closing, so now I have no place to teach my clients. I have one month to find a new place. I don't have a place I actually live. So that's a problem, because I need to live, I lived in L.A., so I need to live where I'm going to teach, right? And then I have no car. So I'm at Whole Foods, because, you know, when you, when you're living off credit cards, you go to Whole Foods for a salad, guys. And I'm, I'm at Whole Foods, and I get a phone call, and I don't I never answer my phone, but I answered my phone and it's like, hi, this is Los Angeles Magazine. Congratulations. You're the best Pilates instructor in Los Angeles. You're gonna be in the next issue one of I do this thing, and I'm like, sitting there and like, the clothes I've been in since the morning, because I have not made it to the gym yet where I can shower. And I'm like, wow, I, how did, I thought people paid for this, like, I thought, like, I didn't pay for this. Do you have the right phone number? They're like, nope. We went to your class and you were voted and, like, you got this. And I was like, oh, amazing. That's so amazing. I sat there, and I'm like, holy moly. Like, I'm homeless. I have no place to all these things are happening. And I remember going, okay, well, I am now the best Pilates instructor in Los Angeles. So where does she teach, and where does she live, and who did she take to this party? And I did all those things. My life changed. Changed dramatically. You guys, I ended up, like, literally, making friends with someone who ended up my husband. I, like, I had one of the best studios and Pilates businesses in Los Angeles. Everything, everything changed because, like, I sat there and I was like, okay, I can sit here and, like, wallow in my sweat and my overdraft. I definitely wasn't probably on overdraft, but I was using a credit card. But, like, but, like, I can sit here in that or I can go, someone just deemed me the best Pilates instructor. So if they think I am, like, what would that person do, and how does that person act? And it changed my whole life. And then it happened again in 2020, and, like, it just so I sit here and I listen to you, and I'm like, my goodness, like, we can do this whenever we need to, and then it like, you don't have to wait. We can actually make these changes. And I think it's really so fun to listen to you, because you just get so I'm sure everyone's saying, like, get so excited. Go, oh, this change is possible. Like, you make it all possible. And so I just thank you. What are you most excited about right now?Brad Bizjack 36:20  Oh, man, right now I am excited for delivering people the insights of daily motivation that they need. I'm developing this entirely new thing that's super, super exciting to help people just have consistent motivation in their lives every day for this exact concept that we're talking about. And also taking my daughter to Disney, which is gonna be freaking cool.Lesley Logan 36:38  Oh my God, that's gonna be, I think you'll have, you'll probably have more fun memories thank she, that is so cool. That is so cool. Oh my gosh. Okay, bro, I could talk to you forever, truly, truly. But we're gonna take a brief break, and then we're gonna find out if people can, can, you know, stalk you in the best way and your Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 37:01  Alright, Brad, where do you hang out? Where can people work with you, if they want to do this with you, if they want more than 35 minutes to do in their ear, like, what can they do?Brad Bizjack 37:08  Yeah, absolutely. So, so in terms of just consistent places where I'm showing up, on the gram jam @BradBizjack, I had motivational tips there on an ongoing basis. But if you really want to take these concepts and make them real. This is actually really, really amazing timing, because starting next week, I have a five day challenge that literally does everything we're talking about and makes them real in your life. It's called the Success Accelerator. This program has helped over 70,000 people shift their beliefs and identities and values to help them become the very best version of themselves, the version that they really want to be. And so yeah, it starts next week. There's going to be a ton of people in there, if you want to see how high performers achieve their goals faster than all their peers, with less stress, if you want to see how do we take these principles and really bring them to life in real time, giving you real tactical things to do each day to really make this happen, come into the Success Accelerator Program, it's going to be really, really powerful. So those would be the two, two best ways.Lesley Logan 38:07  Awesome. Okay, so we'll put the link in the show notes. We'll also email to you guys, if you're on the podcast email list, Brad, my Brad and I did this. That's exactly the time at the beginning of the show. It was, it's absolutely wonderful. I'm telling you like I would do it again, just because I think it's so important to remind yourself, because there's always like, another thing you're like, oh, I didn't do that one. I didn't do that part. I got this part. So I think it's just so amazing what you do. And you guys, it is five, it is five days, but it's wonderful, and it's a great way to start your day. You're going to want to do it, and there's replays, so you can always watch it later if you have to work. Okay, you have given us a ton but, but we have to ask the question, bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted, steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Brad Bizjack 38:47  Oh, my goodness, this is such a good one. This is probably one of the things that I'm most excited about right now. I have a very interesting take on big dreams and big goals. A lot of people will say things like, be realistic and stuff like that. I am actually completely different. My, the number one thing that I believe is you have to be compelled by a beautiful vision of the future. Otherwise, you would, you'll default to focusing on the past and present. So number one, by the way, is unreasonable dreams and goals. In my opinion, that's number one, and then taking full responsibility for making that happen. I think a lot of people hold themselves back from doing that. And if you start there, and we'll talk a lot about this in the challenge next week on how to do that successfully, that'll go a long way in actually making them possible.Lesley Logan 39:33  I love that. We haven't had anyone we've had a few people say those smart, tangible gold blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and that's really, if you do, I got actual habit like, that makes sense. But like, for a vision, no, no one gets out of bed for a reasonable like, you know, like, if shit hits the fan and you have a reasonable goal to work on, you're just gonna work on the shit that hit the fan and not, like, the reasonable goal. So I fucking love that. Brad, you are awesome. You guys, please let us know how you're gonna use these tips in your life. What your favorite takeaways are, if you sign up for the Success Accelerator, I wanna know. I promise you it will be five days well spent. I'm telling you from experience. And send this to a friend who needs to hear it. Because, as Brad said, like the people we hang around, they affect us, and so if you don't want to lose them, they need to hear this so that they can level up as well with you. So, Brad, thank you so much. And until next time everyone, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 40:29  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 41:11  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 41:16  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 41:20  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 41:27  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 41:31  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Welcome Natties to episode 108 “Meggings“ We have returning guest the one and only Molly Stewart! Join us as we dive into woman's leggings and the new trend “meggings”, Sweet Derek's recent AZ trip, Molly's scary stalker story, we finally solve the egg texture debate, another hilarious Bad Impressions bit and so much more! Remember to please like, comment and subscribe! Are you a part of THE Natty Nation? What are you waiting for hit subscribe!Natties we officially have MERCH! Support us and the podcast by ordering on our website www.thenaturalspod.com Thank you!Go check out Mollys Podcast The Totally Wholesome Not Dirty PodcastSocialsMolly Stewart: @thisredheadissfwUncle Kyle/Pod: @thenaturalspodSweet Derek: @sweetderekproductionsEmail: sweetderekproductions@gmail.com

It's Fuck Yeah Friday, and Lesley is back with wins and wisdom to brighten your week. She shares a surprising story about how time was once measured, highlights an inspiring Pilates win from listener Lisa MacDonald, and reflects on her 10th wedding anniversary with Brad. Along the way, she reminds us that noticing even the smallest victories—like making it through a tough day—can transform how habits take root.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How ancient calendars connected women's cycles with timekeeping.The role of daily recognition in building lasting habits.Lisa MacDonald's Pilates win and how she reframed a setback.The significance of celebrating milestones like anniversaries.Why the mantra “I do not rise and fall for another” fosters self-trust.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsStella Porta's Instagram Post - https://beitpod.com/13month If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:48  Hello, Happy FYF. Happy Friday. Happy Fuck Yeah Friday, where we get some inspiration, we have a little bit of fun, we celebrate your wins and mine, and we leave with a little affirmation or mantra or just something to kick our weekend off. Thank you so much for being here. If you're new to the Be It Till You See It Podcast, we do interviews on Tuesday, recaps on Thursday, and this is my time to share a win of yours. You can send your wins into beitpod.com/questions as we can send your questions as well, but you can also send your wins. And I want them. I want more wins from you. Lesley Logan 1:15  So something that inspired me, or like sometimes I feel like it can be educational. So they erased the 13th month because it was ruled by women. So this is from Stella Porta on Instagram. And this is interesting because I definitely had done some research and learned how, like, we got the Roman calendar, which is, like, makes no sense, and we have winter starting the new year off in the middle of winter, which makes zero sense. We should start the middle. We should start the year off at Spring, right? I just think so. But okay, here we go. Before the church ruled time, women followed a different calendar, one based not on the sun, but on the moon. It had 13 months of 28 days, mirroring the menstrual cycle. This wasn't just myth. It was math, 13 times 28 equals 364. Plus one holy day equals 365, Brad just walked in and I just blew his mind. So by the way, the Instagram has sources. So if you're like, this is baloney. No, it's not. There's like little sources. This lunar calendar shaped everything. It had four sacred weeks per month, New Waxing, Full and Waning. Sabbaths were tied to moon phases and a full year, called a year and a day, a phrase still found in spells and folklore. I have seen that in some stuff, and I was like, whoa, that's interesting. So a year and a day, right? Cultures around the world honored it. Maya, Maya women said that their calendar came from menstruation. Chinese women divided the sky into 28 lunar mansions, and in Gaelic words for menstruation and calendar are the same, miosach and miosachan. I don't know, M-I-O-S-A-C-H and M-I-O-S-A-C-H-A-N. So there you go. The Romans used the word menstruation for measuring time. It comes from mensura, measure, from the same root, we get mensis, month and the word menses, the monthly cycle. So one is mensis, maybe, and menses. A woman's body was the first clock, mind blown. But this body-based time was slowly erased. The church replaced the 13-moon year with a 12-month solar one. They called 13 unlucky, moon rites became witchcraft, even menstruation became taboo. Still the signs survived. Witch covens honor the number 13, The 13 Treasures of Britain. Sow with 13 teats in Malta's temples, Twelfth Night fires, 12 small flames, plus one large one to represent the 13th moon of the new year. So lots of little people, just like keeping that history around. I love it, generations, hundreds of years later, right? The church flipped time inside out. Pagans began their days at sunset. The Saxon word for day actually meant night. Good night was once good den or good moonday. Christianity didn't release the goddess calendar. It was rebranded. Christmas Eve equals the pagan night of the mother. Easter equals set by the first full moon after the spring equinox. May Eve, Midsummer Eve, Llamas Eve, All Hallow's Eve, all began as a lunar right. This is interesting. This source that's here I started on another podcast. Pretty much every amazing holiday used to be a pagan holiday, and then the church just rebranded it. So anyways, always good to know where these things came from because I just think you should know. I think you should know what things really are. Alright. They tried to rewrite time, to flatten her curves into straight lines, but the moon cycles never left. They pulse in the mirror of stories and the tides of women in the hush between full moons. And now she's being remembered, not as superstition, but as origin. So hopefully I can get this girl who posted this on the pod. I really. She was cool. And I thought this information is cool. And ladies, we need to know. Right? Time was actually all about us. And I just think that's amazing. Lesley Logan 5:08  So okay, a win of yours. Lisa MacDonald, had a summer cancelation hole on my schedule, but turned what could be considered a negative to a positive, and did Boom Boom Pow! with Lesley on the Reformer, finished with my boomerang on the mat, stood up and said awesome out loud, it felt great. Such a win. Coming off my duet session with Lesley and Melissa Hargrove last night, I felt strong, connected and fabulous. Thank you, Lesley, for inspiring me to look for a win and celebrate. Lisa MacDonald, of course, of course. Lisa is an OPC member. She's done my mentorship program, and so the Boom Boom Pow! was one of the OPC classes. And at OPC, we have a name for every class you have access to it for two weeks. And it's really fun when you get, if you're a teacher, you get a cancelation and you take class because then you get to have extra time with your Pilates practice, which I love. Lesley Logan 5:57  Okay, my win didn't get celebrated last week. We were out of town, and I wanted to make sure I told you, Brad and I celebrated 10 years of being married last week, which is insanity. It's so crazy. I don't know if you maybe this is maybe I'm not the only one, but please let me know if you feel like you are. Like, hold on, how long I've been with this person, or how long I've been doing any anniversary, right? Like, how long have I been doing this? Like it felt like we just got married, and actually, obviously we haven't, but, like, doesn't feel like it's been 10 years, which I guess is great, but then I look back and I'm like, wow, we have done so much in 10 years, like, an insane amount in 10 years. And it's really cool, because this is, like, the first time we have so much more to go and so much more to grow, but just really grateful that we got to celebrate that together, because sometimes our anniversaries line up where we are on a plane and we're together, but like, one of us probably sleeping, and also several times it's happened where we've, like, taken off on a flight on the second, we've landed on the fourth, because we lost today. So it's really nice that we were around together in the daylight hours, not on a plane, able to actually celebrate our 10 year anniversary, which is really, really great. So normally, the wins are something that you want to celebrate. Sometimes they're big, like a 10 year, you know, I'll celebrate 11 as well, but I think it's important that, you know, we celebrate wins, big or small. In the coming months, we're going to have a Habits Series on the program, and one of the biggest things you can start doing to big habits happen is start to notice the things that you actually are getting done, the wins that are actually happening in your life. All right, there's little ones every single day, and we are just not taking enough time to celebrate what we did do. And you know what? Maybe you've got a lot going on in your life, and the only thing to celebrate is that you took a shower and you put on a different change of clothes. That's a huge win. If that was the hardest thing you could do in the day. You know, like, I think you I think we have to start giving ourselves credit for what we have done. And I really, I interviewed someone to be on the pod, and I really like what they're saying. There's so many people who are doing outward actions to get outward affirmation, versus looking and glowing from within, and you can only do that if you're actually recognizing that you're doing really great stuff based in grace, babe. Lesley Logan 8:13  All right, your mantra. You ready for it? I do not rise and fall for another. I do not rise and fall for another. I do not rise and fall for another. No, you don't. You rise. You rise for you. Got it? So easy to do it for other people, and it hurts because it's hard that way. So I do not rise and fall for another. Lesley Logan 8:39  You guys, have an amazing week. We've got a great guest coming up next week. Can't wait for you to hear it and until then, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 8:46  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 9:28  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 9:34  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 9:38  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 9:45  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 9:49  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley and Brad are back to recap their conversation with Dr. Shanté Cofield, The Movement Maestro. They share how showing up as yourself makes the hard days easier, why boundaries are non-negotiable, and how letting go of the “struggle equals success” myth frees you to enjoy the work you love. And because it's not all business, Lesley answers a listener's fun question about how she manages to look fresh after a long flight.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why authenticity makes showing up easier and attracts the right people.How boundaries set the tone and teach others to respect your priorities.The risks of building a brand that doesn't align with who you are.Why success doesn't require constant hustle or exhaustion.Lesley's favorite skincare and travel beauty tips for long haul flightsEpisode References/Links:Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://lesleylogan.co/retreatsPilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsLesley's Skincare Recommendations - https://xxll.co/skincareSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsThe Movement Maestro - http://www.themovementmaestro.com If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  If you are afraid to post on socials, or you're afraid of market yourself or put yourself out there, just know that if you're putting your true self and what you believe in out there, it's gonna be so much easier to show up on a hard day, and people are gonna truly start to connect with that. Will everyone connect with it? No, and that's a good thing. Lesley Logan 0:17  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:56  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the incredible, amazing, badass convo we have with the one and only, Shante Cofield. Brad Crowell 1:10  Shante.Lesley Logan 1:11  The Movement Maestro. Brad Crowell 1:12  Oh yeah. Lesley Logan 1:13  Oh my gosh. It was in our last episode. And if you haven't listened to that one, you've missed out on life. You really like you kind of fucked up. You got to go listen to it. You can listen after this, and you can listen and then like, usually like, depend on how you set your podcast situation up. It could be right after this. If you're listening to the OPC app, it's right below this one. If you're in your Apple app, good luck. They've changed it all the time. It's hard to find an episode you missed. Then that's why we do these recaps. But first, today, it is October 9th, it's Curious Events Day. Brad Crowell 1:42  Curious Events Day. Lesley Logan 1:44  I chose this because of Shante. So, the other ones seemed quite boring. There was World Post Day, and I was like, oh, that's so Shante, but it means like, mail, like. Brad Crowell 1:53  What do you mean male? Lesley Logan 1:54  Like, post mail, like mailing a letter, World Post Day. Not as not as in, like, social media post. Brad Crowell 2:00  I was definitely not thinking M-A-I-L. Lesley Logan 2:03  Yeah, mail. So I didn't choose that one, because that would be the opposite of Shante. But, Curious Events Day is October 9th, and it's a day to wonder about everything we've ever wondered about. So how do you get those little ships into the bottles? I think they do it like they're flat and they put it in. But you should, if you still wonder, you should look that up. Who figured out how to tie shoelaces? That is curious. What is the most recent sighting of Bigfoot in North America? I'm seriously doubting where the feedback might come from. I definitely do mean, pick your sources wisely. Why can't we figure what happened in Roswell? Be inquisitive, be persistent, and be careful, don't forget that old adage, curiosity killed the cat, and then the end is that satisfaction brought it back. But do be mindful. Brad Crowell 2:49  And then it's like, but I had nine lives, so you're good. Be curious. Lesley Logan 2:52  But also, like, do judge your news sources carefully. Brad Crowell 2:57  Oh my gosh. Please, please validate things. Lesley Logan 2:59  Please. Also, like. Brad Crowell 3:01  Anytime, anything seems like, oh yeah, that, that news makes sense. No, go, look it up. Lesley Logan 3:06  Also, don't just look at headlines or scan things. Read. Use your reading skills. Like, use them. It's very, very important. And it's, it's something that's like, I think what I like about world curious day or nationally curious day is, like, just it, it's a way to get off of social media and then go. Brad Crowell 3:28  Curious Events Day.Lesley Logan 3:29  Curious Events Day and go look up things, you know, maybe use a library, like, I don't know, be curious there, too. Anyways, so our Winter Tour is announced, y'all, it announced, well, a while back, and if you haven't bought your tickets yet, you could, it might be Slim Pickens. So go to opc.me/tour to see all the incredible cities. We are recording this before October 1st, so I actually have no idea where we're going yet. We are.Brad Crowell 3:55  We're still working all that out, but it but there's, you know, we got like 25 cities on the docket that we're trying to figure out. Lesley Logan 4:01  That's the goal. Brad Crowell 4:02  It's even bigger and better than we've ever done before. And it's only possible because you come to see the events, and see each other and hang and, you know, come meet us in in real life and we love it. Lesley Logan 4:15  It's kind of how all things work. Brad Crowell 4:15  And the dog, you know. Lesley Logan 4:15  If you like this podcast, you gotta leave a review, share it with a friend and listen. You gotta. If you, if you like our show, you gotta like, you got like, there's things you have more power than you realize. And if you don't attend an event, we don't go back. Brad Crowell 4:30  That's very key. Lesley Logan 4:31  Even if we like this city. So, opc.me/tour. Also, we're currently in Cambodia for our retreat. If you're not on the waitlist yet, you're gonna want to get on that, because in January, we're opening up the early bird special for the retreat, and only those on the waitlist get the early bird option. You don't have to get on the waitlist, but you get to pay full price. And that's that's just like we're spelling out for you.Brad Crowell 4:54  Just to put this out there, we've had a lot of people asking about October 2026. So, a lot of people, and there is only room for, you know, there's a limited amount of space we have.Lesley Logan 5:04  As much as we love you and we hate saying no.Brad Crowell 5:08  I would love to, you know, make sure everybody can join us. But, you know, there's a limited amount of space.Lesley Logan 5:15  Well, because, to be honest, like, we just like the smaller busses, because it means, like, we get to spend more time with you versus the bigger bus, and it's like not as much time with you. And also the bigger bus means less sites to see because the busses don't fit in certain places.Brad Crowell 5:27  Yeah, it is, you know, I mean, what we'll, look, we'll bring the bigger bus if we have the group for the bigger bus, but, yeah, we are limited on we can't go through the big temple.Lesley Logan 5:35  There's only so much room on the patio, so get your spot quickly by being on the waitlist.Brad Crowell 5:44  All right, and then we're excited. On October 19th, we're actually going to be going to Singapore. Oh, for the waitlist people go to lesleylogan.co/retreats plural lesleylogan.co/retreats. On October 19th, we're fired up to be coming to Singapore. This is a new thing for us. We were invited. It's a private event, but I just want to put that out there, you know, for you, if, if you want to host us coming through, just reach out, and we'll see how we can figure it out.Lesley Logan 6:10  Just ask. We actually just came back yesterday when we're recording this from U.K. and people were, I shared, like, oh, we're we actually are here because people asked. Like, it wasn't like we had a studio owner ask, and then we had another studio go, hey, how do I get that at my studio? And then we put the events together. And so, you know, we, we, sometimes we have to plan years in advance, like, this particular event was actually planned two years ago, but we can do that. And we, we actually are the kind of people that don't just show up on your door unannounced. We do need an invitation. And so we already talked about Winter Tour that's coming up in December. Then January is gonna be the Pilates Journal Expo. It's in Huntington Beach. If you go to xxll.co/pilatesjournal, you can get your tickets for that. I've got a world premiere of a workshop, which is really fun for me, because I just like having a space where you can ask whatever question you want about Pilates. Don't worry, there's some other nuggets around that, but, like, it's really a space for that.Brad Crowell 7:04  What was the URL again?Lesley Logan 7:07  xxll.co/pilatesjournalBrad Crowell 7:10  Yeah, we got a new URL shortener, y'all. xxll.co Lesley Logan 7:14  Yeah, because, you know, it's what they needed. Brad Crowell 7:15  We did that instead of a phone number. Lesley Logan 7:17  They still want the phone number. Brad Crowell 7:19  Yeah, the phone number is not gonna be. Lesley Logan 7:21  I still want it. We haven't looked at it. We haven't looked into if we can have a like, you know, 310 just be it.Brad Crowell 7:27  In March, we're gonna be.Lesley Logan 7:27  In Poland. We're gonna be in Poland again. I'm so excited to be back in Poland with Karen Frischmann. So it's, like, kind of amazing you get to learn from the two of us at the same time, which means a bigger bang for your buck, xxll.co/poland, anyone can go, by the way, just because, Karen and I speak in English, okay, that's how we teach. And then it's translated into Polish. But you can just come and then Karen and I will drag Brad, Brad through Europe, all the way over to Brussels, and we are going to be. Brad Crowell 8:00  I will not be complaining. Lesley Logan 8:01  At El's Studio in Brussels. Very, very excited about this. Brad Crowell 8:05  L-L-E Elle's. Lesley Logan 8:06  Oh, actually it's E-L-S.Brad Crowell 8:07  E-L-S apostrophe El's Studio.Lesley Logan 8:08  Yeah, I think it's El's with the apostrophe, because then it's else's. That's what I learned when there's an S, you just put the apostle on the other side. Anyways, you can go to xxll.co/brussels to grab your tickets for that. And in April, we can announce this right now. Brad Crowell 8:28  We can talk about that. I'm pretty sure we already did. Lesley Logan 8:31  So there's something, oh, we might have. We're going to be in London. There is a there is a POT in London. And what I'm doing in London is not yet to be announced, because I haven't signed my contract. So we're gonna be at the POT in London. We're doing something. Brad Crowell 8:45  We're gonna have a booth, and we're gonna be talking about flashcards. So, come hang out. If you've never been to a Pilates On Tour, it is a lot of fun. They're amazing events. They really do a great job with that. And we can't wait to be back in London, it's gonna be amazing.Brad Crowell 8:55  And you can buy day passes for that so. Brad Crowell 8:59  Cool. Love it. All right, before we get into this incredible interview with Shante, we actually had a question, and the question was from Pilates Physio.Lesley Logan 9:08  So there's two people sent in the same question within two weeks. And I like when you read these out loud. Just read them out loud. Read them both. Brad Crowell 9:16  Okay, so Pilates Physio said, how do you look this fresh flying UK to Australia, I always look dragged through the hedge backwards.Lesley Logan 9:26  Hedges backwards, Sorry. Brad Crowell 9:27  Hedges? Lesley Logan 9:28  Yeah, the hedges backwards, sorry. My nails are too long. I typed it up myself.Brad Crowell 9:32  Okay. And the next one is Pilates, Inhale Pilates asks, how the hell do you look so fresh and glowing after all of that flying that is so unfair. And let me tell you my secret. Lesley Logan 9:45  Oh, yeah, you want to tell your secret. So I love both these women, because one of them asked it after I did story, when we had just landed in the UK, and we were driving to (inaudible) and we landed in Edinburgh and we were driving into (inaudible) and then the other one asked it after I we landed, went through security, got through our Global Entry, and we were in the, like, baggage claim area, and I did it. And so it's really quite funny, because for the first one, I actually purposely didn't wear any makeup, and just did my brow stuff because we were flying overnight, and I knew I'd be trying to sleep, and it was like about 30 hours of travel, and you don't wanna have makeup. And for the second one, we had a whole day flight, and I was like, I gotta do stories. I gotta do this. I gotta have my makeup on. And I am so proud of how amazing my makeup survived the Edinburgh, Heathrow, Heathrow to L.A. I did I will say I looked pretty ragged by the time we did L.A. to Las Vegas. I was so tired I couldn't keep my eyes open. So it wasn't like I was dragging a hedge backwards.Brad Crowell 10:43  We both were (inaudible) out on the plane home, like we were, we were asleep before we left the ground. I don't remember taking off.Lesley Logan 10:48  Yeah, I think we just like, I fell asleep so hard. So I will say, I think it's really easy on social media to look at someone who like and go, oh, they look so great. And to be honest, like in that moment, I caught the right light, but I will. So here's what I told them both, really great skin care. You have to have a great skin care routine. You must be doing this all the time. There isn't any makeup hack you can do that can out do bad skin care. Like every makeup artist I've ever worked with, is like the first step to great makeup is the skincare. So fine. When you like, I love the one I use. We don't have a short link for it. We have, like, a long link for it. Brad Crowell 11:30  We can get a short link for it. It's the the tarantula.Lesley Logan 11:34  No, I don't, I don't have, I don't have a social I don't have an affiliate for that. I'll tell you what that is. But, yeah, it's in the sponsors page. Yeah, so, so we'll drop that in there. He'll give it to you in a second. So, great skincare. Must, must, must, must do. Second, if you are flying long, like U.K. to Australia or the U.S. to Europe, like anything, that's 12-hour flight and it's overnight, I highly recommend no makeup, because you are going to try and sleep. But I do believe in mascara and brow gel like and I really do believe in it. It has changed the life. And if you're like, oh, I over plucked my brows when I was younger, you gotta go you gotta follow Striiike. You gotta follow, Striiike is the Instagram account Kristie Streicher. She has a (inaudible) three i's, she will, she will teach you how to grow your brows out, you guys. She was a client of mine. I was a client with of hers. I have not seen her in years, and I'm so proud of what my brows are doing. But I hire because what happened like your eyebrows and your lashes, like frame your eyes, and it can make a tired eye look happier. So we don't have affiliates for Striiike, but go and just learn from them. They have tons of tutorials. Tarantulash is by Bakeup Beauty again, no affiliates. I can't make any money off this, but I'm obsessed. I buy two sticks of mascara every time I shop with them, because you can get the free shipping, The, so once you have a good brow, good mascara you like and great skincare, you can fly anywhere. You also have to drink water. You must drink water when you fly. You have to drink water when you fly. I did not, I do not sleep well on most flights, especially long ones. In fact, when Pilates Physio asked that question, I had not slept at all because the flight sucked so much. On the way home, I think I got a little bit of sleep so, so I would love that. Then, when you want to apply makeup, like I had makeup on the second one, when you want to apply makeup, you you do want to find a makeup line that is easier for you to use, so that it doesn't take too long, and second that through the day, it looks better. No affiliate for Westman Atelier, I have tried multiple times. But I actually love their free concierge program. You can get on a call with someone. They can pick your colors for you, and it is she, she's a great it's a clean beauty line that actually, as a day goes on, it kind of just like melts into your skin more. So it doesn't streak as the day goes on, it's almost like, it's not that it rubs off, but it just like kind of becomes your skin. So I like that. Brad Crowell 14:03  All right, I think I'm also just gonna interrupt you and say, I love all of these amazing things that you've been figuring out. So the skincare link is xxll.co/skincare. Lesley Logan 14:12  Okay, there you go. Brad Crowell 14:12  So xxll.co/skincare and you'll be able to see what Lesley has been using for skincare. I was also just going to jump in there and say, I don't know anybody else in the world who prioritizes their sleep the way that you do.Lesley Logan 14:29  I know I wish I could sleep on a plane, but I do prioritize it outside of planes. Brad Crowell 14:33  Yeah. And so, you know, when you're asking, like, what is it that you're doing? I think it is, you know, it is built on this foundation of consistent sleep. Lesley Logan 14:42  Yes. Well, I think all of it is, right, but I will say, like, great skincare, great sleep. Drink some water. You'd be surprised. And also just be a little nicer to yourself, like the fact that you think that you've, of course, I thought I looked like hell on the first one. You know what I mean. But like. You smile and you look like more awake. Find the sunshine. You'll look more awake like I think we are constantly thinking that we are supposed to look like supermodels all the time, and no one does, including supermodels. They look like shit actually, most of the time, when you see them outside, but they have a confidence to them that they're beautiful people. And you have to start liking yourself, and you have to start to know that you have so many beautiful features, highlight them and have a great day. Brad Crowell 15:23  Yeah. And have a great day. Look, if you have any questions, Lesley clearly would love to answer those questions, just text us back at 310-905-5534, or you can submit it at beitpod.com/questions, that's beitpod.com/questions.Lesley Logan 15:44  I also just love the ones.Brad Crowell 15:45  You can also leave your wins there, too, for our Friday episodes. Lesley Logan 15:49  And also, I think I just get excited when it's, like, a non Pilates question, because it's like, here is all the research I've done. I figured it out. This is the mascara, you know. Brad Crowell 15:57  I love it. Lesley Logan 15:58  All right, let's talk about Shante.Brad Crowell 16:00  All right. Stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 16:03  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about Shante Cofield. I just want to say I love Shante. She's amazing, and we actually do know her in real life. We had a chance to hang out with her a few times over the years. She's just fantastic. So, Shante has created this persona called The Movement Maestro.Brad Crowell 16:21  I don't think it's a persona. It's her. It's.Brad Crowell 16:25  It's a, yes, so it's a persona. Actually, that's the definition of it. All right, so Shante is known as The Movement Maestro, and she's actually a physical therapist by trade and an entrepreneur by choice. And she said that on the the interview, and I thought that's a great way to say that. A physical therapist by trade, entrepreneur by choice. She's based in Southern California, and she now focuses on online business coaching, specifically helping health and fitness pros run, build and grow profitable online personal brands. So loving that. And she primarily uses Instagram as their quote, unquote top of funnel for lead generation, and she's just super great at it. She's been doing it for a long time. And she's also the business partner. She's business partners with Jill Coleman for a group coaching program that they do together, that we would absolutely recommend. Of course, Jill was also our coach. If you remember, Jill's been on the pod, all the things, but what a fun conversation. I mean, also, I just wanted to say,Lesley Logan 17:22  Secretly, I just wanted to talk with her, so I brought her on the pod.Brad Crowell 17:25  Well, she, she says this thing that I think is really funny when she when she's agreeing with you, she says this, this, this.Lesley Logan 17:33  Oh, I felt like I had just a cheerleading session. I was, like. Brad Crowell 17:37  Amazing. Lesley Logan 17:37  I, anytime I'm like, doubtful of, like, the do I know what the fuck I'm talking about? I'm just listening to this episode and hear her like compliment the fuck out of me.Brad Crowell 17:46  What was one of the things that you loved that she said.Lesley Logan 17:51  I mean, aside from how amazing she made me feel about myself, so she said that one of the biggest gifts is showing up authentically, because that is what you actually give other people permission to do the same. So when you show up authentically, you invite other people to do this. And I couldn't believe, I couldn't agree more. I think, like when I get to come to a workshop, and people are nervous, and, you know, I'm even nervous because I'm like, oh my god, they paid all this money, they traveled all this way. I hope I don't disappoint them, like, because people might have a different idea of me on like, from online stuff. I don't know. You know what I mean. People tell a story about them, about somebody, and then you meet them, but I. Brad Crowell 18:36  Don't meet your heroes. Everyone always says, Lesley Logan 18:36  Yeah, well, because some of those people suck, not me and not Shante, but, I.Brad Crowell 18:39  I think if you're showing up authentically online when you met someone in person, then you know what you're gonna get. Lesley Logan 18:45  Of course. Brad Crowell 18:46  That's the goal. Lesley Logan 18:47  I but I will just say, like, I always make sure that even when I feel nervous, I have like, the more authentic I can be to myself, the more every one of these people in this room will drop the nerves, will, will will show up and will have a great time with us. So it's really, really fun for me, so I couldn't agree more, and it helps you get out of your own head, because sometimes we get in our own head about things, and it's like, if you are just being your authentic self, it's one, so much easier, and two other people will be the same, and you won't have to worry if people are being real or not about you. Shoot. We also talked about declaring boundaries and priorities and that you the when you say, like, this is what I do, or I'm putting myself first, you model this behavior for others. I mean, like, can she and I just go on a tour together and tell people to prioritize themselves first. I love this. It's so, so good for the people in your life, for the partners in your life, for the friends in your life, like, and I just, I'm just, like, obsessed with all those things, yeah.Brad Crowell 19:45  I mean, I love that. I think it's important. I think it's great. Lesley Logan 19:45  She also, this is very important. She said, anything but yourself is unsustainable. So, like, if you're trying to be other people, yeah, like, it's so unsustainable.Brad Crowell 19:58  That's why I was gonna chime in, one of the stories that she told was when we follow these people online, and then, and then they quit, and they're like, actually built this thing, and I don't like anything about it and all this stuff. And, you know, it's amazing, because you can build things with marketing. When you do marketing properly, it will build a thing. But you need to make sure you like the thing, you need to make sure you like the people that you're going to be talking with, you know, because otherwise it will be unfulfilling. And I think that if you are talking about something that you don't believe in, it's not sustainable. And that's where this authenticity comes in. When you talk about something you're passionate about, or you believe in, or you really, you know, are wanting to encourage others to tackle and change and do all the things. It comes through, it shines through, right? And also is it allows it for you, you can stand by your word, you know, so that I think that.Lesley Logan 20:53  I also think like it when you're consistent, people do see that, even if they're not buying your thing right away, like, and it doesn't mean you don't get to pivot or evolve. But I have noticed, like, people who keep changing this, oh, I'm doing this now, I'm doing this now. I'm doing this now, and they're so different. Oh, I'm back to this now. I'm like, are they okay? What are they doing? You know. So I do think that the way, if you are, if you are afraid to post on socials, or you're afraid to mark your market yourself, or put yourself out there. Just know that if you're putting your true self and what you believe in out there, it's gonna be so much easier to show up on a hard day, and people are gonna truly start to connect with that. Will everyone connect with it? No, and that's a good thing. You don't want everyone to connect with you. I promise you that. There are some crazy people out there. You don't want them to like your stuff, so be your authentic self, and it will repel them.Brad Crowell 21:45  Yes, yes, yeah, and not even in a negative way. It just they won't be attracted to it. So I really loved when she was talking about the societal lie that success requires struggle. And I found this really intriguing, because I I lived this, this story of, we've talked about this a little bit before, but the bootstrapping, the solopreneur, I gotta do it all myself. Why? Because I'm broke and I can't afford to whatever. And it became a story that I told myself. And then what happens is, it becomes your MO, it becomes your persona.Brad Crowell 22:19  Yeah, well, you tell a story, but also, but you feel like it has to be hard all the time. Brad Crowell 22:20  It has to be hard all the time. But it's not even, it's not even that it has to be hard all the time. That's not the story we initially tell ourselves, but it becomes a lived experience that we then adopt. Right? And so all of a sudden, you're like, like, because when you start to delegate, when you do have a team, and you start giving things over to the team, such as, I'm a teacher, I'm teaching 7000 hours a week, you know, all of a sudden you're not teaching that much anymore. But you've, you've adopted this. It's got to be challenging, or we're not moving forward approach, you suddenly feel like you're doing it wrong, or you're or like some something, something is wrong. You can't, you can't figure out what it is. But it's because we've built this on this foundation of it's got to be hard for it to be right. Lesley Logan 23:09  Well, all the I work with a lot of teachers like, Oh my god, but if I do it like that, then the clients aren't going to because they want to feel burn. It's like, do you want to teach like that? If you don't want to teach like that, stop teaching like that, because they like educate people on what it is. You're making it hard on yourself, and then it's not going to be fun to show up all the time, and you're not going to like it and that, you're like, oh, but it's, it's got to be hard. I it's got to be a struggle. And then I'll get to the other side. You got to do things you like and and there. And success does have obstacles, but it doesn't have to be like you're trudging through like quicksand.Brad Crowell 23:41  Yeah, I mean, you're, you're not here to be miserable every day and faking this thing, right? I think that I just really liked what she said about it. And she said, of course, work is hard, but when it but when it comes to what things that you enjoy doing and the people you enjoy being around, it can still be fun, even when you are working hard, but the but the high level effort doesn't have to be, like killing yourself to make it. Like the struggle, I think the we jokingly say the struggle is real. But also, you know, it doesn't always have to be a struggle every day. Lesley Logan 24:21  Correct. And also, like, I just posted about this today on Instagram, because multiple times during the two events we had people were like, you must be tired, and I was like, oh, I'm not tired. You know, I might be tired. I'll be tired tonight. I might even be a little bit tired tomorrow. But like, I'm not tired right now because I love what I'm doing. I didn't put anything up here that you could buy that would exhaust me.Brad Crowell 24:42  Yeah, well, I think this weird assumption with that, like, wow, you must be tired means you must be burned out, because what you do is so much, like, I cannot fathom how you're able to execute it all you know, and still have time for yourself.Lesley Logan 24:57  Yeah. Well, that goes back to what we said with Shante said earlier, I prioritize myself and I have boundaries. Big time, big time. And I recognize that, like people have kids and blah, blah, blah and all this stuff. I still think that, because she said, we are a mirror, and we, when we are ourselves, other people do the same. If you put yourself first, other people see this, and they too will do it. So we it's not like people will just assume, oh, I gotta not bother that person. You have to say, I can't do that right now. But like, if you are doing something you love, yes, it'd be hard days, but it doesn't have to be a struggle. Brad Crowell 25:27  Yeah. Well, look, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into the Be It Action Item that Shante left us, right after this. Brad Crowell 25:36  Alright, finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Shante Cofield. Lesley Logan 25:46  You go first. Brad Crowell 25:47  Okay. She said when starting out or starting something new, she advised, if someone chooses to believe in you, believe them. And I just loved this. I loved this because this concept of borrowing confidence. I've never thought of before, I never heard of before, but it's so real. Lesley Logan 26:04  This is so brilliant. Brad Crowell 26:04  Because what like, it's almost insulting if you don't believe the person, like, I believe in you. I believe that you can do the thing and you're like, you're right, you're wrong, I'm gonna fail. Right? It's like, you kind of are throwing it back in their face, right? But I also love this reframes this whole idea. When someone is like, I know you can do the thing. You can borrow that confidence from that. What a cool idea. She said, then advise. She said, afterwards, celebrate. Clap yourself. Clap for yourself, and go learn the thing, and then get in those reps. Choose to believe the evidence of your growing confidence, right? And I think when you're when you're, especially when you're starting something new, if you have a mentor or a friend who's like, really, really cheering for you, they're seeing something that you might not see in yourself in the moment, you know, but it doesn't mean you don't have it. So, yeah.Lesley Logan 26:55  Yeah, yeah, okay. It's like, she also just loves our anthem, being in this pod, because she said do it scared. Yep. She said, confidence is a byproduct. It's on the other side of action. So a byproduct of taking action is confidence. That's how you get confidence. Everyone's waiting for confidence. Take action. You gotta take the action to get the confidence, and waiting to feel better about it is a trap. One must still have to take action and show up in this way. So you've got to take the action, guys. And she also said, the confidence, the happiness, the understanding, the clarity that you are looking for, the guidance, the direction, the answers that you're looking for are on the other side of doing the thing. So do it scared and freaking. Say this episode and go back and listen to her tell you that, because it's I couldn't I was just like, yeah, this is why she's on the pod. Like, literally, to remind people so you be it till you see it. I'm obsessed with you Shante, you guys, they have their own podcast. I also know that since we interviewed them for this and I was like, what do you do right now, they were, you know, sharing like, (inaudible) they did a podcasting course.Brad Crowell 28:00  Oh, cool. The podcast is called Maestro On The Mic.Lesley Logan 28:03  Maestro On The Mic. And also, I love their weekly newsletters. I highly recommend. It's an email I actually do read every week. I really, really like it. And it's also I got her on the pod because I got one. And I said, I fucking love this one. Brad Crowell 28:14  Side note, she's a doctor. Lesley Logan 28:16  Yeah. All right, sorry, Dr. Shante, anyways, she is a doctor. She is a badass. I love her journey. I hope that you saw yourself in some of these things that she said. And Shante is gonna wanna know what your takeaways are, so definitely send her a DM what your favorite part was? Send it to the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. This is how we be it till we see it and until next time, Be it Till You See It.Brad Crowell 28:39  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 28:41  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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Dr. Shanté Cofield, better known as The Movement Maestro, unpack what it really takes to build a business and life that actually feels good. From letting go of roles that no longer serve you to embracing lifestyle design over burnout, she shares the truth about why authenticity is the only sustainable strategy. Whether you're navigating a career shift, battling imposter syndrome, or tired of trying to be someone you're not, this episode will remind you that being yourself isn't just allowed—it's necessary.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. 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Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How the shift from PT to brand-builder was built on small steps.Why creating a lifestyle business is really about time and balance.How authenticity makes your work sustainable without constant struggle.Why confidence shows up only after you do the thing scared.How borrowing belief from mentors can carry you through doubt.Episode References/Links:The Movement Maestro - http://www.themovementmaestro.comDr. Shanté Cofield on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themovementmaestroDr. Shanté Cofield on Threads - https://www.threads.com/@themovementmaestroJill Coleman Website - https://jillfit.comEp. 385 Danny-J Johnson & Jill Coleman - https://beitpod.com/ep385RockTape - https://www.rocktape.comGuest Bio:Dr. Shanté Cofield, widely known as The Movement Maestro, is a former physical therapist turned entrepreneur who has built a thriving career helping health and fitness professionals take their work online. She is the creator and host of Maestro on the Mic, a podcast with more than one million downloads, and the founder of The Movement Maestro LLC, a company dedicated to showing coaches and clinicians how to build authentic personal brands. Based in Southern California, Shanté is recognized for her vibrant teaching style, love of community, and unapologetic approach to living life on her own terms.With a background that blends over a decade in movement science and several years in online business strategy, she equips entrepreneurs to grow without losing sight of the lifestyle they want to create. Her work emphasizes sustainability over hustle, encouraging clients to pursue balance, authenticity, and freedom in their careers. 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:53  All right, Be It babe, get ready. This, this the word this comes up in this podcast so many times as a like, like, double tap, as a thumbs up, as like, high five as, I mean, if I could have done this in person, we would have been like, just high fiving each other the whole time. I am obsessed with this person, Shanté Cofield, the movement maestro, is our guest today, and someone who has impressed me from the moment I was introduced to her in so many freaking ways. And what I love is like I got to watch her on the outside looking in, and then I got to know her on the inside and still, just like we don't live in the same place. So just like watching from afar, and like being an Instagram friend, hopefully real life friend from afar, but then getting to talk to Shanté today and hear the journey that they've been on, the journey that they're still on, the way they make decisions. I'm so excited for you, because no matter if you run your own business, you work for someone, you are a human being, and you are going to hear so many things that it's going to help you be you, be more you. So much permission is going to be granted. And I hope this is an episode that you save and hit on replay, because I know I am, I know I can't even wait to listen to this again. And also, I hope that this allows you, if you don't know who Shanté is, I hope this helps you find them, follow them and and get more from them, because they will they have so much to teach. They're just inherent teachers. So Shanté Cofield, thank you so much in advance. You guys, here is the Be It Pod with Shanté Cofield, enjoy. Lesley Logan 2:23  All right, Be It babe. Get ready. This is gonna be amazing. I know that currently, Brad has no idea who I'm talking to, otherwise he'd be in this room. He'd be so jealous. He loves this person so much. So, Shanté Cofield, The Movement Maestro, here you are, finally.Shanté Cofield 2:39  Here I am. Thank you for having me on. Lesley Logan 2:40  Oh my god. Shanté Cofield 2:42  I'm excited. I'm actually legitimately excited to be on this positive podcast. I'm like, yeah, let's fucking do it. The energy. Lesley Logan 2:47  This is gonna be great. So here's the thing you guys, I met Shanté through Jill Coleman, who's been on the pod before. And one of the things that you might not well, you know this about yourself because it's what you teach people on but like, I see a recycling truck and I think of you.Shanté Cofield 3:01  As in knowable. And thank you for knowing it's a recycling truck, not the garbage truck. I don't like the garbage truck, it's a recycling truck.Lesley Logan 3:08  And so and then, you know, I was reading I was reading through your form and everything, and I was like, oh, she does have a bright green jeep. That's right, she does. So Shanté, if in case people don't know who you are, can you tell them who you are and what you rock at?Shanté Cofield 3:20  Yes, absolutely. Again, thank you for having me on and you, listening, thank you for being here. I, Shanté Cofield, I think more colloquially or now more commonly known as Maestro. I'm a physical therapist by trade, an entrepreneur by choice, and now I spend my days in Southern California, but try and make the monies I do online business coaching. So like Lesley had said, Jill Coleman is my business partner for one of the projects that we group coaching program that run together, but I help health and fitness pros run, build, grow, profitable. It's an important word there online personal brands. That is my niche, that is my zone of genius, largely using Instagram as their initial kind of top of funnel. Lesley Logan 4:00  Yeah. I mean, I think it's, I love that you had, like, by trade, and then by choice. I think a lot of people get stuck on the by trade, and they kind of don't choose.Shanté Cofield 4:09  Yeah, I'm like, go and do other things.Lesley Logan 4:12  How long ago did you do that, though? And, like, was it the scariest thing? Shanté Cofield 4:16  Totally. So I graduated from PT school in 2010 I did it for eight years, and during that time, kind of on the back end of that, I started working for a company called Rock Tape. So if any of you have seen any colorful tape that the athletes wear, Carrie Walsh really put, like kinesiology tape on the map. I started working for one of those companies, and I was a lead instructor, and I that's when I really found that I love teaching, and I literally traveled the world teaching for them. So, you know, growing up, I wanted to have a job that I could go on planes and I could stay in hotels. Why? I don't know. I don't know why I wanted that, but I did. And then I became a physical therapist, and I was like, well, that's not gonna really allow for that. And then I got that job, and I found myself traveling and teaching across the world, and I concurrently was building my personal brand. Kind of inadvertently building it, not even kind of, 100% inadvertently building a personal brand, as the Movement Maestro on Instagram, because I was like, I have stuff to say, and this is fun, and I'll connect with people. So I did. I practiced for eight years, and just towards the end of it, I was practicing less, and I was teaching more, very much, knowing that I would step back from from treating because I didn't really love it, but it's safe and it's a great first career, but you can't really, in my opinion, teach just from theory, like you have to be practicing still. And I was like, I don't even enjoy this. I don't really want to be doing this anymore. And so the pivot came in 2020 so I was doing things behind the scenes, kind of the online business stuff behind the scenes. I met Jill in 2019 and we linked up. But 2020, I was like, I am done with PT stuff. I'm done talking about it, coaching it, teaching it, working in that field. And then Covid was like, Okay, here you go. And the pivot was actually very easy, because I couldn't travel anymore. I (inaudible) online, and I just brought all of the kind of coaching business stuff that people have been asking me for, just about that front facing. Then stopped with the, the PT stuff. Lesley Logan 6:04  It's funny. Like, I think, you know, obviously 2020, was terrible for so many reasons, and, and also, like, you can't have bad without good. Like, that's a balance. And so, like, if you take advantage of of the the opportunity that it was there, which is like, oh, I can't like the the playground has said that this is the box. And if I, so, how can I be creative in that box? And we also met Jill in 2019 and then, because of a 30-minute talk she did, we like, did her notes, and then I like DM-ed her like, two months, and I was like, just so you know, thanks for what you did in someone else's thing. We did it, and we made $20,000. She's like, who are you? You know, but like, because of how things change, it really did a lend itself for people who wanted to make a big pivot. And I love that you took advantage of that. Shanté Cofield 6:54  100%. Lesley Logan 6:55  I think, like, people who hear that, though, when people work online, they think, oh, my God, you get to work for yourself. It's like the dream life. We're just all printing money. It's like the coffee shop, you guys. Shanté Cofield 7:05  Yes, printing money.Lesley Logan 7:08  You know, I think it's also easy for people to make a switch and then overwork themselves on something that I am so attracted to about you is that you don't do that. Shanté Cofield 7:16  No, I am 100% of the lifestyle business mindset. And mind you, lifestyle business doesn't mean like being a pauper. It's just like, what's the lifestyle that you want? And if you want some extravagant, you know, lifestyle, then you're gonna have to work and earn, you know, commensurate with that. But for me, it is the reason I do what I do and make any money, is so that I can live in the way that I want, you know, and I want to have a lot of time to do the stuff I want to do on a play guitar. I go to the beach a ton. Jill and I are really good balance in that way, because Jill loves the work. She loves it. She loves being in it. She loves the strategy. And I'm like, I'm going to go to the beach now. I'm going to go and play volleyball. I'm going to go downstairs and lift. I have a gym that we put in in the house. So it's like, yes, I have to make enough money that allows for that lifestyle, but the reason that I do things in my first choice will always be, I'm going to go out and live and do the fun activities or stay home and do the activities, as opposed to being like, work, work, work.Lesley Logan 8:12  So is that easy for you? Like, is that how you've always been? Like is it hard for people around you?Shanté Cofield 8:18  I think that it is, there's a definitely, I love you asked this question because I think it's super important when we're listening to people speak, and we're looking to take lessons from them and advice from them that we also realize where they are in life, like I'm 40, right? So it's not that if I would not be saying this if I was 20, right? So when I was 20, I was in I was in college, and then I immediately after that, I was in grad school, and then I was living in New York City, working a lot like, still very much, being like, I want this. I want to be able to do things on my own time. But knew that I couldn't. I was like, I have to work and I'm have no money, and I live in New York City. But that was definitely always the goal, whether I realized it or not, was this time, flexibility and being in control of my own time. So it is easy for me to do that now, and it's all that I want to do now, and I can actually afford to do that. And I'm able to do that because I'm not 20 I'm not 25 like I do think that there is a time in life when, like, you grind, right? The analogy I like to use is surfing, right? If I don't, first of all, I live by the ocean. I don't go in the water, but I understand it, right? Lesley Logan 9:22  I love you so much because I love the ocean. But I don't go usually I'm like, I don't like anything touching me that I can't see. Shanté Cofield 9:30  I could. I will look at it. I don't need to be up in the ocean. But I watch all the surfers there, and it's like, if you want to ride the wave, if you want to coast, you have to paddle out. You don't just end up out there on the wave and like, oh, look at me. Like, you have to, first of all, I don't watch people surfing like, this is like, so much work, and they're not going, like, under the waves, and that things are hitting them and the board is going backwards. There's a lot of work that gets put up, that gets done, gets front loaded, and then you're like, all right, cool. I can ride this wave and sit here. I can pick which wave I ride, but that's after all the work comes. So no, no, it's not a hard thing for me to decide to do now or live into now. But also, like, I'm 40, I'm not 25.Lesley Logan 10:10  I actually, that's so funny. You know, you have the idea people think that, like, people are served are just like, easy going, like they're just like, actually, like, they're the most organized, hard working folks I've ever met, because they're like, they know when the waves are going to be great. They work there. They schedule everything around that. They work really hard. Like, I went to a yoga teacher who was like, so zen, so chill. He taught at 5 am then he was out riding the waves, and he taught again at 9 am he would like.Shanté Cofield 10:37  This, absolutely, absolutely.Lesley Logan 10:40  But I want to see them, like, hanging loose, or what a hanging 10, and they're like, oh, but they have they're chill. It's like, actually. So that's such a beautiful analogy. I think it's really fun. I always tell people like, when I'm doing interviews, like, why I'm 42 because I think, like, you do have to say, like, it. I can say this and I can work my schedule really does my work schedule really is only nine to four, because when I was 30, this was six to seven.Shanté Cofield 11:06  (inaudible) like, I need you to understand that folks that like that is how it works. Like, in general, I love that you typed into that with with surfers. And one thing I think about with that is that form allows for flow right where, like, yeah, he has a schedule and he has, like, this times, and like, yes, we are dictated by, like, what weather is doing, right? And that allows for me to be able to, like, go with the flow, because I had these things, whether that's like in a time, like a looking across a timeline that I did these things first, or I'm looking at within my day, and it's like, okay, I structured this, this and this, so that I can just be chill, going with the flow, if you will, during these other times. Absolutely. Lesley Logan 11:41  Yeah, but is it? Is it easy for the people around you? Because I know, like, I like, I have learned this is when I'm creative. This is when I can actually do the best coaching. If I miss this opportunity, we're not even posting because it doesn't, it's not even gonna work for me. Like, I just, you know, I love about and, like, there are other people like, oh, you're like, like, I feel like you're you're so cold. Like, I'm not cold. 6am to 9am is my time. You cannot be in my time.Shanté Cofield 12:04  No, no one has had an issue. I mean, my partner, Lex, she does online business. She gets it. She's known me for a long time too, so she knows how I am. And I think that exactly what you just said one of the best things, and we've talked about this a little bit before we got on the call, like this, like this idea of authenticity, that can be kind of overused as a word, but one of the biggest gifts of like, actually showing up authentically, is that you give other people permission to do the same, right? Not that they need it, but like they are looking for it. And so when you show up and you're like, Yeah, this is what I do. This is the time I take. This is how, like, when I'm going to be doing this, I'm putting myself first. I'm scheduling this first. You give other people the permission to do that. And people like that. They're like, oh, if maybe, maybe they have some initial pushback, but that's because they're like, oh shit, you just held up a mirror. And now I have to look at myself and be like, Am I doing that? I could do that. What's stopping me from doing that? So I've had no pushback with it at all. You know, I've I say this whenever I go on podcasts or talk about things like so much of everything I credit to my mom, and just like how she raised me and I, she's always supported me. There was never a like, but what about or none of that. It was just like, okay, you have soccer. I'm taking you. You want to do this? Okay. Like, there was never anything but support. So I've never, I've never been in an environment. I never thought to be in an environment or been okay in an environment where someone's like, pushing back on just how I am, I'd be like, why? What is this about? Lesley Logan 13:27  What a cool mom. What a cool, like, evolved, healthy. Shanté Cofield 13:33  Super fortunate. Lesley Logan 13:34  Yeah, yes. And also let, like, it allows for you to be you, and then again, be that mirror for other people. So okay, it's called Be It Till You See It because I don't like the way fake it till you make it sounds. And I have always been someone who, like, is like, okay, I don't know how to be the person who runs a business by herself. So what if I had to know? And like, what would I do if I had to know? So that's kind of how I've always run things out. And so one of the things that, like, you know, I followed you for years, and I love about you, like, I find, and I'm sure this is like, literally, what you deal with is, like, so many people are afraid to put themselves out there as either themselves or the person that they would like people to see them as, and you teach that. And also, like, you know, in the last recent shit show we've all been in, I've watched you continue to show up authentically, and so I guess I want to know, like, are there tips for being it till you see it online? Shanté Cofield 14:26  Yeah, yeah. This is why I'm really excited to come on this podcast, because it is something that I've learned, that this is what I do and teach. I didn't go into online space or anything with that be like, this is what I'm gonna help people with. But, you know, Movement and Instagram and online business, it's all just been a vehicle to help people live into themselves and create their best lives. And I didn't realize that that was a difficult thing for people. And I don't see that as like, oh, it's so easy. It was just like, that's not the world that I was in in any way. And so when you start talking about you're like, oh, this is something that's difficult for you, for many reasons. Society is designed so that this is difficult for you, like, and then seeing that be like, okay, let me see what I can do, or what I've been doing, and kind of like, put a process to it, if you will, to try and help people. I think that the most, the simplest, easiest thing, the action item, is do it scared. Like, there's no other way around it. I think that we like to kind of, like, cerebralize things and be like, I'm gonna try and dissect it. And why am I like this? And why do I do something that's helpful and fine, but like, you still have to then do it. There's no that. There's no like, I'm gonna think my way out of this or into this. It's like, I still have to take the action and show up in this way. So if we're waiting to, like, feel better about it, we know that this confidence is a byproduct, right? It's on the other side of action. So there's a line that I give people that I tell people, I'm like, do it scared, right? Yes, there can be action items of, like, accountability, or you're like, I'm working with somebody and like, I just have to show up, I have to post. I've given myself timeframes and constraints so that, because we know deadlines are magic. But the to me, the big take home is there, do it scared. You're probably, it's probably going to feel uncomfortable, it's probably going to feel far and it's probably not going to feel good. You're probably going to be like, having all these thoughts, do it anyway, because the feeling you're searching for, the confidence, all of that, it's on the other side of the action.Lesley Logan 16:17  Yeah, oh yeah. It's really true. Like people so we have, since I last saw you, like, we actually have, like, streamlined so many things. And because of all the coaching I've done for 10 plus years, and because the world made me put everything out in blogs back in the day and videos, we were able to train an actual bot to be me, right? And it's great. It's fabulous. She, she has the best grammar that I never had. I'm like, wow, I love that the internet's helping with the commas. Like, it's so great. But somebody asked my bot, like, you know, a question where, like, you know, confidence came up, and my bot said a very true story about how I had, you know, like, I do these things scared. I'm not always confident with what I'm doing and the person's like, you're not always confident. You seem so confident. And it's so funny, because, like, I think people are so good at seeing what they want to see in other people you know that right there, because they don't see they don't see, oh, she's doing that scared. They see, they only see it as, like, she's confident. And it's really, like, I tell everyone, I do everything, like, as if the roller coaster is like, at the tip and I'm screaming down the other side and hoping I'm just gonna go with the flow of it all, because you get confident from doing the thing you said you're gonna do. Shanté Cofield 17:32  It's on the other side of it. I think, you know, there's also a lot to be said from drawing from data, right? Like, I'm a physical therapist by trade. That's science through and through. It's how my brain works. I want logic. I want reason. I want things to be rational. There's so much to be said to actually generating evidence and generating data first and then then the second part, which is hard for people, is believing it like there's always this discussion around imposter syndrome. There's a lot of, you know, routes we can take and how it's like, societally imposed, and all these other things. And I'm like, for me, part of the rational side of it is, I'm like, maybe you're just not that good yet. If you just started, why would you be good at this thing? So you feeling like, I'm not good enough. It's like, you're right. Clap for yourself. You're right. You're not that good yet. And then we go and we learn the things and we get the rest. And then this is where I see the switch doesn't flip. You have to choose to believe that evidence, because I'll have people that like do the things and I'm like, you've been doing this shit for five years. You're still not confident, like, you have to choose to believe it then. Day one, no, you're not good. Objectively, you're not like, it's okay. Year five. You are better. You have to look at all of this data that you have generated, and then you have to choose to believe it, and then act from that. Can you still and will you still be scared or have feelings about certain things? Yes, but it's typically the new things that you haven't done. Moving forward, you have this new foundation. You have stepping stones that you've literally laid in place yourself, and you have to choose to believe the structural integrity of these things.Lesley Logan 19:01  I I'm obsessed with that (inaudible) and I'll okay, Seth Godin, like, probably this is a decade ago, I was listening to podcasts when I couldn't afford coaching. I was like, these people are my coach. And Seth Godin was like, being asked about imposter syndrome, and he said, if you're new at something, you are, in fact, an imposter. And he's just right, so just feel those feelings, and then take the steps to not be that way. And I was like, and he also said, and then also take it as a sign that you're probably not a narcissist as well. So when you, yeah, because you care. So we can remove now that we've, like, established you're not a crazy ego narcissist and you are new. Allow yourself to be new, but then go do the thing. And I so I have had some people, some teachers, at my house, and they graduate from my mentorship program, and they were here at the house for retreat, and when I was like, oh, I can't do this exercise. I can't do this exercise. And I was like, okay, well, let's just see what you can do. So they do it, and they come right up, and I'm like, so you just did it. Shanté Cofield 19:59  So you can, actually, objectively. Lesley Logan 20:02  Yeah and I'm like, you need to believe in you more than I believe in you. Like, yes, I'm a teacher. Right?Shanté Cofield 20:09  That, that is huge, Lesley, that is huge. And I think that one of the things that I will talk to people about, or say to people as they're on this journey, is borrowing confidence, right? And so when we're starting out and we're new with something, one of the best gifts you can give yourself is if someone chooses to believe in you believe them. And so I think about, you know, you had asked, what the podcast, and I love, by the way, how organized your shit is. But one of the things I was asking, in that little, little pre podcast thing, and I was thinking of like, you know, instances, and for me, it was starting with Rock Tape and starting to teach with them. I did reach out, because I was like, I can do this because I was five years into my career already. It wasn't like day one. I was like, I can get people better. Like, I could do this. I could learn and, like, learn how to teach this. But like, I have a solid foundation. I'm good at what I do. But going into this, one of the women, one of the head woman, Allison, Allison Evans, who is my self-pointed mentor. We still talk like nearly every day. She believed in me, and she really believed that I could do this and could teach and like she put me on stages and helped me, and I was like, I'm going to choose to believe her. And that confidence, I did have to borrow it like I had my own coming in, but any that I needed, I would borrow from her and then use that moving forward, so that one of the best gifts that you can give yourself, if you are foundering, faltering a little bit having unsure about things, if someone chooses to believe in you, believe them. Lesley Logan 21:34  Ah, I want to put that on replay. Everyone's gonna rewind that. I wanna put that on replay because, like, I it's so true, years it was probably like 20 this was like 2018 and I had and I had, I had been traveling a bit to I was being hired to teach in different countries, and I was always so shocked. I'm like, oh my god, they found me. This is like, you guys, this is 2014-15. I wasn't really doing it on Instagram. They were finding me through like YouTube and then word of mouth. So then it's like 2018, a girlfriend of mine wanted to host this big event. And she was like, she was picking all of her friends to, like, do it, because we believed in her, right? But so I believed in her that she could do this event. And I found myself on a stage, my husband was actually micing me up. There's 85 people in this class, and I was like, Is this mic on? He goes, No. And I was like, I think I'm a little bit nervous. Like, I think there's a mistake here, right? Like, and he goes, why? And I was like, well, I just don't know, like, 85 people. I've never taught 85 people. And I'm looking at this front row, and there's like, famous teachers in the front row and brand new people in the front row, and I'm having just, like, a little having a little moment, a little imposter moment. And he goes, how is this different than anything you've already done? And it was like, I needed to go back and borrow that comment and also be reminded you've actually done this. It's just more people.Shanté Cofield 22:46  That that that you're human, the reminders, the other people, the people that are believing you, that people are giving them around, like, take all of this. Take all of it. Yes, yes. Yes times a million. Lesley Logan 22:57  Yeah, yeah. Um, okay. So you, you have, you went from, I mean, like, I love Rock Tape, thank God for Rock Tape. But between that, Pilates saved my knees and my hips from all my running career. So very appreciative. And then you got into what people would say is, like, a huge pivot, like, I don't know that many people would like the trend of like, oh, you go your physical therapist, and you're a Rock Tape expert, and then you teach people how to be on Instagram. Shanté Cofield 23:27  Yeah, right. Lesley Logan 23:28  So you had the teacher confidence in you from the teaching you've done, but and you had the confidence in what you've put out and what you grew on your own. But what was the be it till you see it? How did you like, how did you set yourself up to, like, coach people on something completely different than what you went to college studying all that?Shanté Cofield 23:45  Totally, totally. I love the phrase that it's be it till you see it, because you're not actually faking it, right? So to me that my, one of my whole sticks is safety and having a safety net. And so from the outside, people will think you've taken massive leaps. And then if they're like, behind the scenes, or if they actually were with you the whole time, they realize, like, there's these little steps that you just, like, didn't fucking stop them. So everything led to the next thing you know, being able to be on social media and being able to teach in person and give presentations came from the fact that I did it for a zillion years, right? Growing up, going through high school, going through college, and then, PT school, you did a million presentations, so like, going and doing more of them. I'm like, this is the same it's actually not an issue at all. Being able to speak to people and connect with people. That's from being a physical therapist like, that's literally all you do all day long, right? This skill set just carries over to the next thing, coaching, things. I've been in sports my whole life. I've been coaching my whole life. So then going into the online business realm, it wasn't so much of a pivot, because I was doing PT. All I did was I took all my PT stuff and I started putting it on Instagram. Because I was like, I started using Instagram simply because I was like, I would like to connect with other people. I didn't do it to this is 2014 right? I didn't do it to start a brand. I didn't do it because, like, no one was really doing it, to be completely honest, in terms of, like, the PT world there was like, (inaudible) was doing it, Perry Nicholson was doing it. But it wasn't like a big thing to see, like, PTs and Kairos just like.Lesley Logan 25:05  Yeah. I know it's hard for people to believe, but there was a window where social media was just social.Shanté Cofield 25:10  Yeah, right, like, here's my breakfast. There was no. Lesley Logan 25:14  I know. Here's a sunrise. I look at the sunrise. I did just look at this tree. Shanté Cofield 25:18  On my high tone filter here. Like it was not, it was like, not a thing. So I was like, okay, I see people doing it. I just want to connect with people and like, I'm, mind you, I'm five years into my career by now. Like, I was like, I can literally just take what I've been doing during the day. Videos was only 15 seconds long. Like, first iPhone didn't even have, like, a camera, I mean, a video on it. Like it was just like, this is very different way of doing things a different time. So I'm taking my PT stuff, I'm putting that on social media. I grow a following behind that, thinking I wanted to work with CrossFitters, but who followed me was other PTs. And I see why, like, looking back, I'm like, the language I was using, how I was showing up. So then I start teaching them things. I'm running courses. So, like, I'm able to run my own courses, because I worked for Rock Tape, at that point, four years. And so I knew how to run a course. I knew how much I would need to charge in order to, like, turn a profit on this. I had connections all around. I launched my personal course in Australia and New Zealand because I had connections from Rock Tape so it wasn't like, how could you launch a course abroad? I'm like, because I've already done literally 500 like, right? It's not a big thing. So from the outside, maybe it looks like that. From the inside, it's like, it's just the next step. As I'm running all these courses, and anytime I would go and they would, I would be specifically asked to teach a course. I by the by the, like, year three of this, I already knew if that facility asked for me specifically, I already knew that owner was going to be like, hey, can we go out to dinner? And then they were going to ask me business stuff. And they were like, going, they were like, gonna be like, I wanna leave. I wanna do something else. So getting asked all these questions, starting to work with those people, but it was just behind the scenes. People didn't know I'm doing it, but I'm like, I've been doing this for years. So then 2019 comes. I start bringing more of it front facing. Jill and I host a live event. That was my first live event with, like, online business. And I was like, okay, this is new, but I'm borrowing confidence from Jill. Jill believes in me. Cool. I'm going to just stay in my lane with this stuff and teach this stuff and go into that even, because I've been doing it like behind the scenes, but not so front facing. And then 2020 I literally just took all the stuff that I was doing behind the scenes and brought it front facing, right so that, and largely what I was doing initially in 2020 was teaching people how teaching people how to bring their presence online. It wasn't so much of the true like launch strategy and things like that that I learned a ton from Jill and then also going through that subsequently. But I started out with what I knew and what I've been helping with people with already. So the pivot felt like a lot like looked like a lot from the outside, but behind the scenes, it was literally like, okay, it's just the next stepping stone, and taking all that I've done with me and using it for the next step. Lesley Logan 27:46  I am so obsessed with the way that you like, talked about what people see on the outside, and then the baby steps behind the scenes, because I do think that they go, oh, you know, Lesley does this, and she does this, and she does this, and so I'm gonna go do these things. And it's like, okay, behind the scenes, there are 20 people who do the million steps. There are, like, from the time I end this call with you, I don't touch this again until a recap episode, and it goes through all the things that does all this stuff. And then I don't, I just hear it on the places you listen to podcasts too. Like, yeah, because, because behind the scenes, you're not, no one's posting. That's boring. No one actually wants to know how many baby steps are back there. But I also want to highlight that you like, you took what you were being asked a lot, and the experiences you were having, and you were utilizing that. And I think where a lot of people, they try to create it from the end point from, like, where this like, oh, here's Shanté on the stage. So I'm going to do what Shanté is doing on the stage, and then what am I going to talk about? What if you, you know, you got to go back behind the scenes, and like you mentioned earlier, where it's like, I didn't know people had a hard time doing this thing that came so easy to me. And I think, like for anyone listening, if you're wondering what you might be doing, whatever you think is easy, someone else, a lot of other people, think is so hard. They think it's so hard.Shanté Cofield 29:02  That, you're like, oh, I had no idea. Oh, I think that that gets at kind of like, one thing we haven't discussed is, like the societal implications, right? Like, how society and patriarchy and supremacy culture play into all of this, and we are fed this lie that success requires struggle, right, there's a difference. Success requires hard work, but not struggle. So if you go back to this, the surfer analogy, this would be like, you don't know how to swim. You hate the water. There's sharks in there. And people think like, that's how you have to do it in order to be able to like surf. And I'm like, you should maybe stay on land and, like, play volleyball, like, don't do something else, don't even like swimming. Like, what are you? Why do we think we have to be the struggle and such? Yes, there is hard work, but it is with things that you enjoy doing, with people you enjoy being around. And then it doesn't feel like this, like, God, I'm like, pulling teeth, and it's the worst thing ever. I truly believe that humans, left to their own devices, they will create, they will work hard, they will do so much. People are not inherently lazy. We all know, anyone that's listening to this, you have any if you've ever created something of anything, and you're like, I like this thing. You will stay up all night, you'll miss meals, you'll skip these things. I just want to finish this thing like that, it's in us, but we fed this lie that we have to struggle and we have to suffer and it has to be the worst thing ever. It doesn't have to be yes, it's a lot of work. Yes, we should probably expand our timelines for things, right? We'd have timelines in terms of minutes and I'm like, make it years and you'll never fail. Yeah, right now it's minutes and you're like, I didn't do it yet. But if you are finding things, leaning into these things and like, Hey, I'm naturally good at it. That's a good thing. But we're kind of taught, oh, you're naturally good at it. It's easy. That means that you're lazy, or that if you're if you're going to do that, that means that, like, you're taking the easy route, and that's bad. And it's like, no, do the things that you like, do the things that come easily, that that is great. That's what we're going for, not this life of like I hate the things I have to go to, where I have to do this, I have to struggle and suffer for it to be worthwhile. No, no, absolutely not. Lesley Logan 31:06  No. And I think there's, I love the distinction of hard work versus struggle. And you mentioned that, like, like, the the interesting thing, I don't know, intriguing, the crazy thing about the society that we are in currently, it is, like, before I before I before I go on this with you, my team is like, hey, which of these podcasts do you want us to pitch you to? I was like, looking and I'm like, you guys, anything that is just looks like an alpha male, like you can just say no. Like, you don't, you don't have to ask me. I don't care if it's a point 1% podcast. I don't care if I'm the first expert ever. They want to talk about Pilates and how it's good for them. Like, I'm gonna tell you right now, like, I cannot handle that vibe, and I don't need to. I can work hard and not struggle, and that would be a struggle, right? So, like, you know, I I like, no. And I think what a lot of people have done online is like, oh, that's popular. What this dickhead over here is doing is doing is popular, and using the red and the orange, and, like, claiming out, I'm gonna eat only steak and so I'm gonna go that way, you know. And like, people have forgotten to, like, be themselves and be different.Shanté Cofield 32:11  This, this, this, this, this times a million times a million. We're looking at sustainability as well, right? Like, sustainability and longevity, because that's what the play should be, being anything but yourself is unsustainable, yeah? Like, it may bring it might bring you flash in the pan, success. It might it absolutely, you might be able to trend track something and ride that wave for a short term. You might. But we also see, we've seen it publicly in social media, where people are like, I have to stop doing social media. I built this thing. I hate it. I have this massive audience. It's fake. I don't like it. And it's like, yeah. And I'm also thinking about, we're just seeing the end product of that right, where they're just like, I'm so unhappy. I have to, like, stop this person's been living like that for however long. Like, that's not, life is short, man, we're not here to be miserable every day and baking this thing like, I love that you're not this fake it till you make it. I'm like, people be faking it till they die, you know. Like, that's not.Lesley Logan 33:13  It's not it. It's really not so. And talk about like imposters, and you'll never feel that way. I'll so Martha Stewart is not one of my favorite people in the world, although she's a badass and like, let's just give her that. And also, she hasn't been to prison. That was a, just, just a woman doing something a man does, and they're gonna put her in prison. Yeah, so if they want to imprison them on it, then fine, I'm okay with it. But if we're not doing that anyways, different argument. But she had her version of The Apprentice. Like, when I was like, you know, I don't know, maybe was in college or in high school, and I remember someone said, well, we gotta fake it till you make it. And Martha said, We never fake anything around here. And I was like, I mean, come on, Martha, you fake a little bit, right? Like, like, I had this thing. Like, I just remember, and I remember that going, like, really, you don't fake anything. And then as I got older, and I started, like, evaluate I was doing, I was like, I'm not faking anything. This is me. But like, acting like if I had the if I knew how that worked, or if I wasn't scared. So it's just, you know, when we think of what actors do, we don't call them faking it when they're on white lotus, they are acting like this weird character. You know, it gives me nightmares. Yeah? So it's just like, you get to act like the person who would have the confidence you act like the person, who is doing the hard work but not struggling, that helps you make decisions that you can filter through until you are you realize one day you woke up and you are that person. That's who you are, because that's who you always were.Shanté Cofield 34:32  That, that last part though. Lesley, I think that's really huge, because that's who you always were. There's something to be said, if you really sit and dissect this, like, be it till you see it, it's not faking it because, like, it is you, like, maybe you don't know this thing, but it's still you, it's still you choosing to do this. It's still you having the confidence to do this thing. You're not lying to saying to someone and being like, I'm a surgeon, like, that is different. That's completely different, but it is you. But there is no fake to this, like, whether or not it's just the nuance and the verbage there is that you don't have the like, the confidence that you believe someone who's like been this way for a long time has, but it's still you, still in it. Lesley Logan 35:17  Speaking of still you, you've always been the person that I like look to when it's like, okay, what's going on with Instagram? Like, what's going on this thing? Lesley, just get out of your fucking way and do, just do a just do the thing. Like, I'm just like, such a reluctant Instagrammer, because I've done so well with the YouTubes and the other things and so to me, like, I'm just kind of like, I don't, I always hop on trends. Like, I'm like, I'm just like, here's, I'm too busy actually. So here's here's here's a picture of me and my assistant, and I'll get back to you next week, because I got a lot to do, but something that like you I I've been watching you, and you're so good, and you are so creative, and you're always so consistent. And also, after the election, you, to me, I think on the outsider's perspective, people might have thought you were pivoting. You were being you in my, because, maybe because I know you behind the scenes a bit, but like, it didn't seem like a pivot. It seemed like you just got, like, turning the volume up on you. How did is that what you felt like you were doing? Do you feel like you were like, do you did you have pushback when people say you've changed?Shanté Cofield 36:19  There was no, this is a great question. There was no overt pushback. There was obviously, like, losing of followers, right? So there's like a silence pushback, if you will. But I, flip side of that is I didn't have anyone that was like, stay in your lane or stick to politics. Like no one said anything to me. They were just like, okay, I'm gonna show myself the door. And I'm like, that's cool. I also will say, I don't look at numbers. I hate looking at numbers. I hate when people are like so in the numbers, because I also believe that, especially on Instagram, a lot of numbers are fake, not even like people buying followers. I'm like in you think that 60,000 people like this is Instagram with fake money, right? Using house money and rewarding certain behavior and being like, hey, we like what you're doing. We're going to give you followers, don't like what you're doing, we're going to take them away. Like, the metrics that I want people looking at, if we're going to talk Instagram, is going to be your actual interaction. How many comments are you getting, and are they real? Like, are you talking to people? How many DMs? How many conversations are you having? That's the stuff that I care about. And while I lost quote, unquote followers, or I should say, well, I lost quote, unquote followers, that's what I want to be quoting there, my engagement and my DMs did not go down. I got more comments on the post that I've been doing since the election. So I'm like, I'm good actually, and I think that my audience this is I've been showing up this way long enough of just like this is me, and what topic am I speaking about? Right? My whole shtick has been, build, create, live your best life, and we're doing it with authenticity, because otherwise it's not sustainable. It's not your best life. It's some caricatures, you know, best life. And I've just used vehicles right, across the years. It's been vehicles, it's been physical therapy, it's been Movement, it's been Instagram, it's been online business. And now I, you know, I'm just speaking to certain points that are just like this, just, like this, just, we're just talking about life now, there's nothing in in between to like, create metaphors for you. We're just talking about life. I'm just asking you to look at the things that you're doing on the day to day, and the things that are happening around us and the implications of that, and speaking to that. So, you know, it hasn't been difficult in the sense of showing up that way, but it has been difficult for me to have the desire to put out what I consider to be trivial things. I understand it can be helpful for certain people, but like, that's not where I'm at. I also have, like, this kind of, like internal clock that, like, kind of resets every five years when I'm like, okay, something new. So PT was five years, and then the last three I was teaching and shifting away from treating, and then 2020 hit, and I'm, you know, doing all online business. I'm like, it's 2025 my clock is like, yeah, next step. What? What else is there? Lesley Logan 38:51  I love that you have that awareness of yourself. I felt like I have a seven year clock. And I only learned that, like in the like, last year, I was like, kind of felt like, like, I felt like I was claustrophobic in my own clothes, you know. And, you know, here's the thing, like, again, behind the scenes, no one can see what we're having to do to pivot businesses, you know. And it takes time and what I just love that you mentioned, like, it's hard to post about trivial things, or things that feel trivial to me. It has, I will be honest, like, in the ever since, like, the last year, of like, oh, fuck, this is where we're headed. I'm like, does it really? Do you really need a fucking tip on that? Because there's a YouTube video like, I I'm trying to figure that. I'm trying to figure out, how do I, like, how do I as female business owner who coaches female business owners whose clients are coming in and telling them stupid shit about the economy, who's making them doubt that they should raise their rates, even though their rent went up, their utilities went up. Like, the cost to have employees went up. Like, yeah, you have to raise your rates, because that's the only way you stay in business. It's you are not a charity. You are a. Business. If you want to be a charity, go file for that. You know, I am so I I appreciate that, because I had, I found like, you know, not just like, what has gone on with politics, but like, in the last month, we had something happen in our family, and I'm like, I just, I have these brands who want me to post something I I'm sorry, like, I'm gonna fail you right now, what I love is like, you're such, you are human, and you give so many people permission to be that. And I didn't even post a ton. Mostly was all my stories. I was like, if you follow me, like, you're gonna get the real me. And then the stories is where it is. And I people, you know, I just really liked it when you didn't talk about politics. And I said, I'm so sorry. I'm a female business owner that is political. Like, like, I might have privileges of a white person, but like, I'm still a female business owner who literally only gets people to answer things if I, I have my husband on calls for things. Like, I have a I have, like, here it's your job.Shanté Cofield 40:51  People are people, audacity. I wish that the people we coach and people listening to this have the audacity of that person. It comes into your DMs and is like, here's how you should run your account. I wish we all had that audacity. Lesley Logan 41:04  Yes, yes. Oh, my God. Shanté Cofield 41:06  Where did that come from? Lesley Logan 41:07  Yes, we need to find these people. Like, teach them audacity because it's what, that's the word, it is. And like, I just said, I said, oh, you know, this is my account. Like, so I I said, I was just like, this is my account. And like, I think rights are, are actually, like, just real and human rights. But if you don't like hearing about that, you don't have to follow me here. You can just go for free and go on YouTube. In fact, they'll make sure whatever ads you get the ones you wanted. And you can, you can actually just search for the content that you want from me, and if you want to pay for it. In my membership group, we don't talk about politics, but just remember, everything is.Shanté Cofield 41:43  Exactly. Everything is political, and people see that. I'm like, you're just saying that it hasn't affected you. I'm like, but it is. It hasn't affected you in a negative way. I'm like, it's just affecting you, but positively or neutrally, like. So it hasn't been hard to switch to speak about that it's been hard to like, you said, the behind the scenes, business side of things. Like, I run, my number one program that I run is an Instagram intensive, and I haven't run it this year because I'm just like, what do I want to do with this thing? Like, how do I want this thing to look? How do I do I want to do this? Am I wanting to encourage people to go and spend their time with this? Is this company that doesn't give shits of value? Like, there's a lot of thinking around the the intentionality piece. And I'm fortunate in a fortunate place that I like have, I have the savings to be able to, like, chill out, and I have other programs going on, and I already have clients that I can be been working with one on one, so I can hold off on that thing. But that, that has been the only difficulty, but.Lesley Logan 42:38  I thank you for sure, because I think, like when everything went down, I had people in my group going, I don't, I don't want to post on these platforms, because I don't want to give them anything. And I was like, okay, first of all, I agree. Like, I like, just know that, like, thank you. And also, what I will always coach you on is you have to be where they your people are. So where are your people? Because if they are there, then if you're not there, then some dude on rib-eye steak for three meals a day is gonna sell to them. Like they're gonna, they're gonna buy the solution to their problem. So then it's kind of like, how do we play in the field, you know, like, how do we do it? And so that's always been a game. It's always been the game like, how do we play in this, like, the sandbox that gets them out of that sandbox and over into the sandbox we want to play in.Shanté Cofield 43:25  Absolutely, the intentionality and taking a moment and, like, again, bang, bang. Having time is a luxury, right? Time is to me, like, it circles back to being a conversation of, like, what ultimately I wanted, and having this lifestyle business. It's the translation of that is having time flexibility and having time ownership, right? Where I have the time to sit and Covid, we saw the importance of time during Covid. We call it the great pause, because it gave people a moment to be like, wait, what do I want? How do I want to do things? Do I believe in this? Do I agree with this? When we're living in a world that's so fast paced, and you just have to, like, you're just trying to eat, you're just trying to, like, get through the day, you don't have the luxury, you don't the ability to sit and think and be like, so intentional with things, right? It's all by design, right? I can sound like a tin hat. I don't care. It's all by design. I'm in a place where I have the luxury to sit and be like, okay, I want to be intentional in community, super intentional with my business and how I'm showing up and how I'm helping people. What does that look like? Like I totally agree, there's a huge (inaudible) and when it comes to social media, because it's like, yes, these businesses and supporting them, and you're like, But the flip side is, how do I support my people? And if it's like, I have to stay with this nonsense and in this sandbox so that I can reach these people, because that's where they're at, I'm going to do that. And yes, I'm going to have to move them somewhere else and do other things and show up with my values and encourage them to do the same. But you know, this is taking a beat, taking a moment to really fit and identify that, and not just being like, knee jerk, like, I'm done with it all. And like, yeah, I'm burning it all down. It's like, if that's what you want to do, fine, but I'm looking at what's the outcome of that. Why am I doing that? And if my goal is to be able to help people and like, let me take a moment and figure out what feels best and how I want to do that. Lesley Logan 45:01  Yeah, I could talk to you forever, Shanté, I'm just obsessed. And really, we need to have a hang next time you're here, next time I'm there, we're gonna take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you, work with you. Shanté Cofield 45:12  Sounds good. Lesley Logan 45:13  All right, Shanté, where do you hang out? And we said Instagram. But also, like, give them all the deets. Where can they stalk you in a good way?Shanté Cofield 45:19  Yeah, the deets, I try to keep everything consistent, is just type in The Movement Maestro anywhere, and it'll come up, and then you can do whatever you want with it. My website, movementmaestro.com, Instagram, The Movement Maestro. I'm on threads as The Movement Maestro, and that's the easiest, the easiest thing, if you want to chat, I'm in my DMs. I haven't been posting as much as I usually do, but I will answer a DM in two seconds. I don't like email, so go to my website and email me, but I probably won't get back to you. Someone from my team may get back, maybe. Maybe I'll have Rupert, my cat, get back, but (inaudible).Lesley Logan 45:51  Oh, I will tell you how I got out of my inbox, and I'm loving it. Now I have to, actually, my sister's like you do have to go and respond to the five that I couldn't do. I was like, okay, alright, I'll get there. All right. You have truly given us so much, but you know, we, it would, wouldn't be Be It Till You See It Podcast without the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it? What do you have for us?Shanté Cofield 46:11  We're going to circle back, because repetition is key. Once is never, and I'm going to say what I said before. Just do it scared, right? The confidence, the happiness, the understanding, the clarity that you are looking for, the guidance, the direction, the answers that you're looking for are on the other side of doing the thing. So, do it scared.Lesley Logan 46:27  Yeah, yeah. We firmly believe in that. We cosign on that. And once you do it scared, make sure you let The Movement Maestro know and let Be It Pod know because then we can celebrate you. Because guess what? Celebration is how habits are created. That's how the dopamine hits the brain. It's all science people, all right, loves. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 46:45  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 47:28  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 47:33  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 47:37  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 47:44  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 47:48  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

  For most of medical history, women's health has been largely overlooked and misunderstood. But after years of a general lack of awareness about the important phase of perimenopause, today there are some incredible health experts taking charge of this conversation. Today, you're going to hear from one of the leading advocates of women's health and perimenopause.   Dr. Mariza Snyder is a physician and bestselling author who is on a mission to help women thrive while navigating perimenopause. Her new book, Perimenopause Revolution is a powerful guide to understanding this profound hormonal shift, and how to take control of your hormones and your health.   In this interview, you're going to learn about the hormones that are at play during perimenopause and menopause and how they affect the body at the systemic level. We're also going to cover the critical role of metabolic health during hormonal shifts, the lifestyle habits that can help mitigate perimenopause symptoms, and so much more. I hope you enjoy this interview with Dr. Mariza Snyder!   In this episode you'll discover:  The connection between perimenopause and weight gain. (9:25)  Why perimenopause is a neuroendocrine transition. (10:20)  How transitioning away from rhythmically cycling hormones affects the body. (11:53)  Which hormone is the master CEO of the brain. (15:08)  How many doctors' visits on average it takes for a woman to get answers. (19:15)  Why perimenopause is like a second puberty. (23:32)  The importance of understanding blood sugar during perimenopause. (31:04)  How cortisol affects blood sugar. (33:36)   The #1 factor that influences metabolic health. (40:34)   What the biggest metabolic hack is. (43:03)  How to use exercise snacks to support your metabolism. (45:14)  What to do if you experience an afternoon crash in energy. (49:54)  The importance of sleep consistency. (52:43)  Strategies for dealing with feeling tired but wired. (58:22)  The connection between mental health and perimenopause. (1:00:50)  Why perimenopause is a critical time to honor your boundaries and self-care. (1:06:04)  The beauty of listening to your body. (1:07:07)   Items mentioned in this episode include:  WildPastures.com/model  - Get 20% off every box plus an additional $15 off!   Beekeepersnaturals.com/model  - Save up to 30% on natural remedies!  Levels.link/model  - Join today and get 2 free months with a one-year membership!   Use This Proven Formula to Boost Neuroplasticity  - Hear Dr. Patrick Porter's interview!   7 Habits That Slow Down Aging  - Hear about the power of a consistent sleep schedule!  The Secret to Learning Faster - Listen to Jim Kwik's interview!   The Perimenopause Revolution by Dr. Mariza Snyder  - Preorder the book today!   Connect with Dr. Mariza Snyder Website / Podcast / Facebook / Instagram   Be sure you are subscribed to this podcast to automatically receive your episodes:   Apple Podcasts  Spotify  Soundcloud  Pandora  YouTube   This episode of The Model Health Show is brought to you by Wild Pastures and Beekeeper's Naturals.   Get 100% grassfed and finished beef, pasture raised chicken, and other nutrient dense, regenerative meats. Sign up with my link to get 20% of for life, plus an additional $15 off your first box at wildpastures.com/model.    Reinvent your medicine cabinet for with clean, effective products powered by the beehive & backed by science. Claim up to a 30% discount at beekeepersnaturals.com/model. 

Lesley Logan brings you another round of Friday wins to inspire your week. She shares a powerful story of fathers reuniting with daughters, a community win about commitment and accountability, and her own personal milestone with Brad. This episode is all about connection, celebration, and remembering there's room for you at the table.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The power of a prison daddy-daughter dance that reunited families.How Melissa and Lisa reignited their Pilates practice through weekly partner sessions.Why honoring small commitments with an accountability buddy matters.What 10 years of marriage taught Lesley about celebrating past choices.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsGod Behind Bars - https://godbehindbars.comGod Behind Bars Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/godbehindbars If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah.Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. Happy Friday. We made it. We did it. We're here. I am so excited for these short episodes, because they're just, they're here to inspire you. And honestly, like, sometimes, like, we were kids, like, didn't we, like, live for Fridays. And now it's kind of like, okay, we made it. We survived. There's a lot going on. There's a lot always going on. There's always been that way. But these episodes are here to remind you that there's still things that you can celebrate. There's still good stuff that's happening. You're still doing things, even if around you, if it just feels like chaos and overwhelm. So I share a winof yours, a win of mine, also some inspiration from something that I saw, that we can all think about, celebrate or get mad about, and then a little mantra for you to take with you on your way. And hopefully it's something you can share with a friend or run a Post-It, and I love for you to your share your wins, to send them into the beitpod.com/questions. But this really inspired me. So this is really, really cool. 16 incarcerated fathers were reunited with their daughters for a daddy-daughter dance held inside the prison. Freaking the coolest thing the prison system, like bothers me so much because we don't do a really good job like rehabilitating people, making people feel like human beings. We treat them like animals, and we want them to act like a human and like Maslow's hierarchy of needs is like a real thing. So this is so cool, and it's so it says, for a few sacred hours, San Quentin didn't feel like prison. The prison chapel transformed into a holy ground, draped walls, soft music, a red carpet, floral centerpieces replaced concrete and coldness. For a moment, it was hard to believe we were still in a maximum security prison. Outside, 16 incarcerated fathers stood waiting, some in suits for the first time, others trembling as they tied ties with unsteady hands. They waited for years, for this moment, some decades, then the doors open. There's actually like a whole documentary on YouTube. Now I gotta go watch it. But the daughter stepped on the red carpet, little girls in bright dresses, grown women with hearts full of ache and hope. One by one, they walked into arms that had long to hold them. I'm gonna cry. Fathers fell at their knees in tears. Prodigals reunited. Kelon hadn't held his daughter in 20 years. Carrington wept as his daughters hugged him for the first time. Steven danced with his “bundle of joy.” Vincent read a handwritten letter to his daughter Autumn, filled with love, apology, and redemption. It wasn't just beautiful.
It was sacred.
It was the Gospel, tangible, trembling, alive. You made it happen. You gave 21 daughters dresses, flights, hotel rooms, corsages, a meal, and a memory they'll never forget. You brought heaven to prison. You reminded these men: they are still dads. And reminded these girls: they are still daughters. This wasn't just an event.
This was healing.
This was hope.
This was holy. Anyways, there's a the handle that handled that did this is God Behind Bars are doing another father-daughter dance in Angola prison. This year, you can donate $10 a month or anything to help for pay for tuxes, family travel, dresses, food and so much more. You can go to Godbehindbars.com. Like, however you feel about religion. Like, I just think that this is just like the most impactful thing for people in their lives. Like, people make mistakes, people are put in situations that things happen, and our justice system is really not always just. And so I just am this just really melts my heart. And like, how cool, how cool. And I'm from California, up past where San Quentin is. We drive by it, and it's like, just not a place you want to be. And like, the fact that they took the time to do this, to make people feel like the human beings that they are, and really help establish relationships that like can be helpful for for reestablishing these people in society, if they ever get to like, it's humongous. It's a huge deal. So anyways, that is what inspired me. There can be inspiration, right? Lesley Logan 4:16  Okay, a win of yours. Melissa Hargrove, someone I was been around in our lives for a long time and just really inspires me all the time. She said, wanted to share an ongoing win. After our eLevate retreat in March, I reconnected with my OG partner, Lisa. We decided to make a commitment to get together and practice our original goal was to find as much time as we could and do duets with Lesley. After the first lesson, we knew we needed more. We have more duets scheduled through September. Go us! And taking it a step further, we decided to try to do our best to meet weekly, even just to do a Joe's gym or just move. Today, we opted to do the June chair class, It Takes Two, and I'm pretty sure I can speak for us both that we dusted that piece of equipment and we have a new reignited passion for it. So thank you, Lisa for finding time to work with me. And just proud that we have been able to keep the commitment to our practice. I told her today that had we not done the class together it would have taken me two hours to do it, because I would have had to pause, pet my cat, get a drink, maybe change the laundry and so on. But holy cow, when you flow at a brisk pace without pausing, it feels amazing. So thanks again, Lisa for keeping us on point and LL for an inspiring class. Yeah, I want to add to this win. Because you know what, Melissa Hargrove, your partner, Lisa, put a win up that adds to this. So here we go and adding on to that win. This is Melissa. Melissa. I wanted to add to this win this week after already doing two Pilates classes Tuesday, Melissa joined me for our scheduled practice session. I am so very grateful for her commitment to our practice together. It means so much that she did not cancel. As I was looking forward to moving with her, we agreed to do a 30 minute session, which was a win win for both of us since I had the opportunity to walk and do a stair climbing session in 95 degree heat at lunch. Glad we could support each other and can find the time and the win in any situation. Way to go ladies. So this is why Be It Till You See It exists. This is what we're here to do, bring people together, bring women together. Remind you that like you can, right? You can have counterparts that like will show up even when you're like, I don't really want to do this, and this happens all the time. I'm sure I'll have a win coming up with some of our other OPC members who literally get together every Wednesday at 8am to do the workout that they're members of. You know, sometimes it does take that kind of village, and it's okay to take that village time. It's okay to ask for help. It's okay to have an accountability buddy, but this is really important to me. When you make an accountability buddy, you guys need to be completely honest and thoughtful of the other person, so that you don't start canceling here and canceling there, like, oh, it's just 30 minutes. No, show up for each other, right? It helps the other person make time for themselves as well. So I really love this lady. Thank you so much for inspiring us to move our bodies, but also to connect with other people in our lives and realize, like we need each other too. We need to be there too. Lesley Logan 4:39  Okay, so my win, I had a win to share with you. I'm gonna save that win for next week. It's already a little delayed to share with you, so I'm gonna share it because a win is actually, I wish I had Brad here. Tomorrow's our 10 year wedding anniversary. 10 years, holy moly. We're celebrating together. I think we'll actually be together for it, because we're in Chicago, so we'll celebrate it together, and we're like, usually we're on a plane and like, because of the time travel distance, like the third just disappears in our lives. And so multiple anniversaries that we haven't been together, but this one, we get to do it together, doing something we love, with people we love to be around at, Pilates On Tour in Chicago. I know you're like, 10 years how is that like? That's that's a win. It's a win not because, like, it's like a struggle to stay married to him or anything like that, but just that we like continually make time to be with each other and to make sure that we're doing things together that are fun, and we challenge each other in really amazing ways. He challenges me to put things away in an actual spot. I challenged him to be on time. You know, these are, these are these are wins for two ADHD people in the same household. But truly, I'm so blessed. I'm so grateful. And recently, we were sharing how we met, because people always want to know how we met, and maybe that's a podcast episode for a different day, but whenever we get to tell it now that we've been married 10 years, there's there's something really cool about, like, looking back on the people that we were who chose each other and we chose to do something really scary, and that's a win. So here we are celebrating 10 years of marriage. And it's not that the 10 years of marriage is what I'm celebrating for us. I'm, like, kind of celebrating our past selves, making really huge decisions that could have easily been written off and, like, not made a priority. So huge thanks to Brad and Lesley in their early 30s for the things that they did, but also just for all the people in our lives who have been friends along the way, who've become family, and that's our win. 10 years of marriage. I love it. I love you. You're amazing. Lesley Logan 8:58  Okay, let me get you an affirmation to repeat with your on yourself, on your drive, on your walk. There's room for me at the table. There is room for me at the table. There is. Take a seat. You know, sometimes we think, oh, I don't want to bother people, oh, and I'll be I don't have enough accolades. Oh, who am I to do this? My neighbor recently, saw the G7 he's like, oh my god, don't, don't write my thing down. Like, who am I to be here? And like, what he actually is there to do, like, change the lives of people in this world and the politicians that are there need to hear what he has to say. There's room for you at the table. There's room for me at the table. Love you so much, and you know what to do. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 9:41  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 10:24  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 10:29  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 10:33  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 10:40  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 10:43  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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What happens when life forces you to stop, reflect, and rebuild? In this recap, Lesley and Brad unpack their conversation with wellness coach and the Balanced Your Life Podcast host Meghan Pherrill, who transformed her life after battling OCD, depression, and anxiety. They reflect on how Meghan's journey shows the power of starting small, listening to your intuition, and choosing practices that spark joy. This episode will inspire you to rethink your habits, embrace imperfection, and create a life rooted in balance and authenticity.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Meghan's breakup became a turning point for self-discovery.Why healing from OCD required both slow shifts and sudden breakthroughs.The importance of starting with one simple habit and sticking with it.How support systems can either hold you back or help you grow.Meghan's meditation guide for creating lasting calm and balance.Episode References/Links:Cambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comWinter Tour - https://opc.me/tourPilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsEpisode 580: Wendy Valentine - https://beitpod.com/580Meghan Pherrill Website - https://www.balancebymeghan.comBalance Your Life Podcast - https://www.balancebymeghan.com/podcastInternational OCD Foundation - https://iocdf.org If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  We know from how habits are truly created, it has to actually bring joy and dopamine, you have to get dopamine high. If you don't, you're not going to get that habit. If it feels like it's shameful or like you're judging yourself, it's possible that's not your intuition and you're following someone else's. Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:55  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the restorative combo I had with Megan Farrell in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to the episode and you are not new here, you know what to do. If you're brand new here, hi, we're gonna talk about something that already happened, and you can listen. If you're like me, you'd listen to this one and then you listen to the other one. Or you can be like, Brad and pause us now. Brad Crowell 1:23  You do that? Lesley Logan 1:24  Of course. I want, when we watch The Crown, do I not look up the historical facts before we finish?Brad Crowell 1:31  She does. She always looks up the ending. Yeah, I watch it from start to finish.Lesley Logan 1:34  I need, sometimes I get just nervous, and I just need to know how it's going to be, so that I can sit and pay attention. Because sometimes I'm just so nervous for them. They're like, I can't you saw my stress results after watching F1. Brad Crowell 1:47  Yes, I did. Lesley Logan 1:48  So you guys, we saw the F1 movie, and mostly I went for the Brad Pitt part, but my friend said it was just on edge of her seat, and so I looked at my WHOOP and, like, heart rate monitor and you can see from the horror film preview to the end of the movie of the of the F1 you can actually see every time they had a race, because my heart would spike for every race, and I just like, can someone just tell me if he wins this race? So I can just enjoy the race, because I can't enjoy the race right now because I'm so stressed for him. So that's why I like to listen to these kinds of episodes, podcasts, and then I listen to the one.Brad Crowell 1:48  Yeah, yeah, okay.Lesley Logan 1:52  Today is October 2nd, 2025, in case you didin't know, it is the day before our 10th year wedding anniversary. Brad Crowell 2:37  What? Oh, yeah. Lesley Logan 2:39  But it's also the actual day of International Day of Non-Violence. Today, we celebrate the birthday of a man who helped bring forward the notion of non violence and the tremendous impact this form of social response has all over the world in the last century. On the International Day of Non-Violence created by the United Nations in 2007, we look back on the influence of an Indian activist born Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, but known the world over as Mahatma Gandhi. The International Day of Non-Violence honors how Gandhi's work and legacy has impacted global non-violent protests. The UN has good reason to use Gandhi's birthday to celebrate International Day of Non-Violence. Gandhi's commitment to India's independence and his methods have been the cornerstone of civil and human right initiatives all over the world. Put simply, Gandhi saw it as completely irrational to use violence to achieve peace. But rather just means.Brad Crowell 3:29  But rather, just means lead to just ends.Lesley Logan 3:32  Oh, but rather comma just means lead to just ends. Period. Got it, okay. This is a lesson we can all take to heart. I mean, I completely agree, you know.Brad Crowell 3:43  Yeah, it's, it's amazing that, especially in, you know, when he died in 1940s like late 40s, and his message spread all around the world, which is amazing, because, no, no computers, no email, no social media. Lesley Logan 4:01  Did you ever wonder? But do you wonder, like, would Mahatma Gandhi actually be famous today? Do you know what I mean? Because, like, some of the people we looked to were like, wow, like, would they actually keep the attention of the people who are like, hold on, let me see this kid, like, try lemon for the first time. I just, I just kind of like. Brad Crowell 4:19  Or drink Coke for the first time. Lesley Logan 4:20  Here's my, my faith in humanity's ability to, like, take, take seriously things that are serious is, like, dwindling every day. Lesley Logan 4:34  Yeah. I mean. Lesley Logan 4:35  We don't even know what's happened today when this comes out. I'm telling you, we're recording this in August, so, like, who knows what has happened to people's rights between August and August 2nd because it feels like every day they're trying to take someone's rights, or some city's rights away. We're talking about the U.S.Brad Crowell 4:50  Over the weekend, in the U.S., the federal government deployed troops to 17 cities, or something like that.Lesley Logan 4:57  I think they threatened 17. Brad Crowell 4:57  Or they, like, they we're gonna take, yeah. Lesley Logan 4:58  But by the time this has happened, maybe it's happened, but by the time we're recording this, no. So right now, they're in D.C. and they're threatening to go to Chicago and something else, but, like.Brad Crowell 5:08  They're in L.A. and D.C., yeah. Lesley Logan 5:10  And, you know, like, I just, I mean, it's all control, right? The more they have you scared, the more they have you changing your life, you know, then it's one day you wake up, it's too late, you can't even vote. So keep protesting. Go find a protest. There's a woman who's 104 I think she turned 104 two months ago. She protests every Thursday. Every Thursday. She is 104 she has very few days left on this planet, and she's like, I'm gonna spend one of every seven protesting for people's rights. We are not going to be here. Brad Crowell 5:44  She's not going to be here for them. Lesley Logan 5:45  She's not going to be here, right? Someday she will go. So I'm just saying, you, too.Brad Crowell 5:50  Yeah, but I think also, the thing, you know, like, we've been.Lesley Logan 5:54  By the way, we all boycott Target and look what happened. CEO is gone. So these things work.Brad Crowell 5:58  Well, the point of it is, is not necessarily the, the action of boycotting is important and and like, you know, making your voice heard. But I think that the key here is the non violent part, right? And I'll tell you, it's really challenging when you know the police are out in force or the military is out in force. It's very scary feeling to be in a crowd and, you know, see a clash, and you know that's, that is, we haven't been around like extreme violence, but we've been around like high pressure, like, environments where you're like, oh, if somebody does one thing stupid, this could all blow up. Right? Lesley Logan 6:42  I got really nervous at that one protest because this guy kept taunting the police and I was like, let's just go over here, because, like, it just, he's acting a little crazy. They're going to take it crazier, and then, who knows, but.Brad Crowell 6:55  But that's where I feel like that's why we need to focus on the non-violence, because it's important to make our voices heard. We have to make our voices heard. If we don't do that, then there are people who will make decisions that will that will hurt us, right, as a society and, literally, individually. But how do we do that in a way that doesn't make us exactly like them? Right?Lesley Logan 7:20  Yeah, well, you're going to call your congress person and senator every day. You are going to not pick every single company to boycott. I get it, lifestyle, we gotta do something. You know, we still shop in these places I'm not happy about, but you gotta, like, pick, like, I'm not doing these places or I'm gonna do, we did an FYFwhere I explained how you could, like, boycott in a way that was, like, successful for you and where your life is. You could borrow things. You can also, like, let's say you have a (inaudible), you don't have time to go out on a Saturday to go protest. Okay, great. So then, how can you help promote protests? How can you make sure that everyone you know goes out? Like, how can you do that? And, you know, there's just, there's just, there's always a way, no matter what your situation is. But I get that you're busy and I get that you're tired. I get that you're scared. We don't have time for that. And if you don't listen live in this country, and you're having to listen to us every Thursday talking about this, tell your American friends to get the fuck up and do some action, non-violent action. You know, we gotta do it. You know, it's just so important. And I promise you, you feel better after you do it. Non-violence, to me, does not mean telling people, like yelling what you want to yell out. That's what you could do at a protest. It's quite nice. I find it cathartic. Yeah, oh, I have a fit. We're, did we share this already? So we were at a protest, and there's like some dickhead on his little vape sucky thing, can't even handle, can't handle grown people with, like, a little passy. Anyways, he's like, flipping us off, and the guys next to us are like, oh, I'm gonna pray for you. And he's like, they hate that. And I was like, oh yeah. Thoughts and prayers. So if you have some dickhead, fascist, loving person in your life, you can just be like when they flip you off or they call you some, don't worry, I'll be praying for you. Brad Crowell 9:05  Yeah, thoughts and prayers. thoughts and prayers. Lesley Logan 9:06  Thoughts and prayers for you and your children. Anyways, today. Do you have anything more to say? Lesley Logan 9:12  I know Gandhi is great. Have you watched the movie? Go watch it. If you're like, Gandhi, I haven't thought about in a while. There's a movie about him. I'm sure there's some, I'm sure you can get chatgpt to give you the Cliff Notes as well, you know. But like. Brad Crowell 9:23  It's worth watching. Lesley Logan 9:25  I think it's worth watching. I think it's we, it's nice to learn about. If people think that this is all new, none of, none of what we're going through is new. Brad Crowell 9:33  The same stuff happened in the 60s. I mean, we're we're recycling, we're recycling fascism. I mean, it happened in the 40s and 30s, 20s.Lesley Logan 9:43  And they, and I love this, if we don't learn history, we're doomed to repeat it. People do, do learn history, and they're still repeating it, you know. So it's also, I think a lot of people who think that, like they could never be in a cult, they could never fall for that. They could never understand coercion, because they would never let that happen. And yet, they're also the same, people, very coerced. So, you know, take some time to learn about Gandhi today. And what can you do that's non-violent today to protest what you're pissed off about? Tell us what you decided to do. Tag us in the Be It Pod. We'll share it. We'll share with friends. Lesley Logan 10:15  Today is October 2nd. We are in Chicago, as we speak. We're having a great time with our members, and people came to our workshop, and we'll be at the Balanced Body's Pilates On T our. Brad Crowell 10:25  Yeah, if you are in Chicago, we're going to coordinate members only hang. So you know, if you are, you can come hang. If you're listening this podcast and you're at P.O.T. and you're not a member, just come hang out anyway. We'd love to meet you and hang out with you. Brad Crowell 10:36  And if you're like, where is it? You gotta reach out to us. Just text the company. Brad Crowell 10:42  Yeah, just text us 310-905-5534, text us there and we'll let you know.Lesley Logan 10:45  Supposedly Instagram is just gonna start telling over my location. And last week, it was everyone saying this is how you turn the location things off. And I was like.Brad Crowell 10:57  It seems like a bad idea. Lesley Logan 10:58  I was like, oh, great, then people will know where I am. Like, I don't know. Brad Crowell 11:02  Turn that shit off.Lesley Logan 11:03  Brad, do you know any people go, oh, you live in L.A., right? Like everyone's (inaudible) so it doesn't really matter. Brad Crowell 11:03  No, I think your profile can say Vegas. Lesley Logan 11:03  I know, but every I'm just saying, like, I don't actually know how it works.Brad Crowell 11:13  Maybe if it's general, and you're like, I'm in the city of.Lesley Logan 11:17  I, we told everyone where we are already. So I'm just really not so sure like, how, like, what they're gonna say she's at the movie thing. Like, how specific is it getting? Like, I don't know. Lesley Logan 11:25  Yeah, we'll see. Lesley Logan 11:26  You know what the fucking Earth is on fire. I'm not really worried about this right now. I don't currently have a stalker that is yelling at me. If I do, I'll figure that out. But that's not, that's not the, there's, I'm sure there's VPN for that. Brad Crowell 11:37  That's fair. Lesley Logan 11:38  But after this weekend, we leave for Cambodia for our retreat. And so we want you to join us next October, once you go on the get on the waitlist at crownestretreats.com so go do that.Brad Crowell 11:50  Yeah, come join us in January of next year, we're going to be announcing the early bird special. Lesley Logan 11:56  Yeah, next year's the early bird, October is the retreat. Brad Crowell 11:57  Yeah, October, it's gonna be like the third week of October 18 to 23 or something like that. Lesley Logan 12:01  It's a little later because of a holiday, I don't want to be there. We don't like being on a retreat during Pchum Ben because it's like the (inaudible) and they are, Pchum Ben, literally celebrate for 30 days. But the first three days are really big deal, and it makes it really hard to go into the temples because some of the rooms are blocked off for the holidays so we go around it.Brad Crowell 12:20  Yeah, they're doing a lot of, you know, there's a lot going on there that we are trying to avoid for next year. So, yeah. Anyway, come join us, and we're telling you now so that you have a literal year to plan. Lesley Logan 12:35  No excuses. Brad Crowell 12:36  That's right, no excuses, y'all, the spots are limited, and if you want the information, get on the waitlist, go to crowsnestretreats.com now and then, we're really fired up on the way home from this year's trip. We are going to be teaching in Singapore. And then really, what I'm really fired up about is we're going to go do the Botanical Gardens. If you've never looked these up, y'all, you have to look them up. I saw them in a movie, and I was like, that doesn't look like CGI. What the hell? Where is that place? I need to figure this out. And it is the botanical gardens at night in Singapore, and they are up on this walkway that's raised up above the city with these epic statues that are full of vegetation and the gardens that they've built. And it is just mind blowingly cool. And I've been dreaming of going there for many, many, many years, and finally.Lesley Logan 13:24  And we have a 15-hour layover during the day, so we can do workshops and the garden. Brad Crowell 13:27  Yeah, it's gonna be great. So go check that out. Lesley Logan 13:30  You can't check out our workshop, but you can go check out their gardens. Brad Crowell 13:33  That's right, yeah, the workshop is private event, but the but the gardens are dope. Winter tour.Lesley Logan 13:37  It was announced yesterday. Lesley Logan 13:39  Oh, yeah. Lesley Logan 13:39  I bet you you can go to opc.me/tour at this point. Brad Crowell 13:42  Yeah, you can go to opc.me/tour I'm sure the events was redirected to tour, but if not, you'll get an email saying you're on the waitlist. Thanks. Oh, by the way, tour is open. Click here, so go check your email if you just signed up on the waitlist, opc.me/events or opc.me/tour we are planning to do another 8000 miles. We are. Lesley Logan 14:00  Crazy people. Brad Crowell 14:02  We're looking at like 22 to 24 cities, I think, on this, this tour. And we're really looking forward to being back up in the northeast, all the way back down in Miami. Well, we're going to do Fort Lauderdale this year instead of Miami, but we'll be in the area. And then, yeah, it's going to be awesome. So we can't wait to hang with you again in person, if you've joined us last year, just so that you know, tickets are starting to sell really fast when we make these announcements so.Lesley Logan 14:28  Especially for winter tour, because people, like, can go see family members at certain places. So like, they are, they're on it. They're watching it.Brad Crowell 14:35  So tickets opened yesterday. So go check it out, opc.me/tour. Now, we got some exciting things. We're already talking about 2026 here. Yes, what's going on in January?Lesley Logan 14:44  The Pilates Journal Expo in Huntington Beach, which is near Los Angeles. It is, I forget, I think the dates are like the ninth and 10th, or the 10th and 11th. At any rate, it's like right there. As soon as we end the tour, we go there and we do a couple great events there. So our first expo in the U.S. I'm really excited for them, because we need more conferences. Yeah, we need more ways to get together. Brad Crowell 15:06  It's gonna be awesome. So we've got a new URL for you, everybody, are you ready? This is the unveiling ofLesley Logan 15:13  xxll.co/pilatesjournal so my initials how I sent off xxll.co/pilatesjournal.Brad Crowell 15:20  That'll take you straight to the Pilates Journal Expo. Brad Crowell 15:20  And they have tickets already. Brad Crowell 15:23  Yep, it's available. Lesley Logan 15:28  And then in March, we're going to be in Poland, the Contrology conference in it's like, wut-waf and then sometimes people try to tell me say, oh, ruk-luf. And that's not how you say it. It's like, Wroclaw, but I'm going to be there. And so it's xxll.co/poland and then the next week we'll be in Brussels, different workshops, same, great people. So come to both xxll.co/brussels. So that's Q1, that's as far as I'm going with guys, I don't want to scare myself.Brad Crowell 16:02  Well, then we're gonna be in London in April. Lesley Logan 16:05  Okay, well, just let the cat out of the bag, babe. I'm not talking about Q2. No, no. Refuse. Refuse. We have to wait a couple months. Brad Crowell 16:15  Oh, shoot. We'll wait. We'll wait. Lesley Logan 16:17  I don't like, then it's like, and then in June, and then people are like, too much. They're not listening anymore. It's not, we're losing listeners.Brad Crowell 16:24  It's true. All right. Here we go. We had an audience question. Kaylee Nicole Medina asks, hey Lesley, I wanted to ask you, which classical Reformer do you recommend for a small studio that I'm opening, I'm planning to have only four Reformers, and Kaylee, I can already tell you exactly which Reformer she's gonna recommend.Lesley Logan 16:40  Brad is taking over the answers these days. Well, let's see.Brad Crowell 16:43  Lesley is, if you don't know this, Lesley is a a Pilates Contrology demo center right here in Las Vegas. Lesley Logan 16:52  Just my whole self, yeah. Brad Crowell 16:53  Lesley herself, our our home, is a demo center for Contrology. So, of course, she's going to go with the Contrology Reformer, which is 80 inches. Lesley Logan 17:01  Well, they have a couple but. Brad Crowell 17:04  But the ones that we have are 80. Lesley Logan 17:10  They're 80. Brad Crowell 17:10  So for a smaller studio, get the 80 inches.Lesley Logan 17:08  Yeah, they're gonna work for people up to six-three and all that stuff. And then the other thing I did, I will say, Kaylee, is, if you're like, you could do 280 and 286 is so that way, if you had a couple tall people, you could do that, they're still not what I like about them is they're lightweight, so they're easy to move around. So if the floor is like hardwood floor you could put some little felt on the bottom. It's really easy to, like, slide things around. And Kaylee, if you want to take it up another notch, I'm gonna say you can get both the 80 and the 86 with Towers on them. Now, obviously. Lesley Logan 17:33  You get the 80s with Tower? Lesley Logan 17:37  Shhh. They don't advertise, but you can ask. You gotta talk to me. Gotta talk to me. I'll give you to my girl. My girl will help you out with it.Brad Crowell 17:49  Didn't know that. Lesley Logan 17:49  If you are a taller body, it's obviously not a long enough mat for you, which is why I'm suggesting 286 is 280s and with Towers, and now you have a small studio with two different oh, and get this.Brad Crowell 18:03  That's right, you'll get the you'll get the Reformers, the Towers, and you'll be able to put the mats right on them, so.Lesley Logan 18:08  By the way. But wait there, and not just it. You can buy the handles. This is how genius Balanced Body and Contrology are, they made it so that that converted mat or Tower, you could put the classical mat handles in and now it's a three in one. Brad Crowell 18:22  Come on. Lesley Logan 18:23  You're welcome. And you can use my discount and that's gonna save you like 5% which is like shipping. So, you're welcome. Lesley Logan 18:32  Yeah. So reach back out, Kaylee, that's great. I didn't know that. Fancy, fancy. Don't tell.Brad Crowell 18:39  If you have a question, just text us at 310-905-5534, or submit your question at beitpod.com/questions beitpod.com/questions where you can leave your wins or your questions. And we really actually love hearing from you. Brad Crowell 18:56  I want your wins. I want all your wins. Brad Crowell 19:03  We want more wins. Lesley Logan 18:59  Of course, I want your questions, but I want your wins, too. Brad Crowell 19:01  Yeah, bring it on. All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this convo that Lesley had with Meghan Pherrill. Just a minute. Brad Crowell 19:08  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about Meghan Pherrill. Meghan Pherrill is one of the is the creator of Balanced by Meghan, a wellness brand and top Canadian podcast, Balance Your Life. Shaped by her journey through personal challenges and past trauma, Meghan discovered yoga, meditation and healthy eating habits as tools to rebuild her life and really battle OCD and debilitating trauma, right? Today, she inspires others to embrace small, sustainable changes that lead to a well -balanced life. Through retreats, workshops and her podcast, she empowers people to tune into their intuition, find patience in their healing journey, and create a life rooted in health, resilience and authenticity. So it was, it was, it was definitely interesting. It was an intriguing conversation. There's definitely a lot more to that conversation that you y'all didn't go into. But what? But, but what? Tell me what? What is one of the things that jumped out at you?Lesley Logan 20:00  Well, I think, like, what I what I really was interested in talking with her about, because being it till you see it is like she used to, she was, she is diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder, right? She had depression and anxiety, and, like, she now is in a whole different place in her life, right? And she worked through all those things. And I'm just like, I think that's really amazing. Because I think a lot of people have this badge of, oh, I have anxiety, or I'm depressed, or I have OCD, and they use it as like, and that's why I can't X, Y and Z. And she had this breakup that was a total wake up call for her, and she was able to realize that she'd become someone she didn't want to be. She didn't like who she was. And, I mean, it's kind of like last week's episode with Wendy Valentine, like out of a relationship, but different points in their life. Meghan is very young. Brad Crowell 20:45  Yeah, sure. Lesley Logan 20:46  And so it's a whole it's not like a midlife crisis, it's like a no, you're an adult now, and you're you don't like who, what's going on with your life and who you become. And so she put all this energy into into this relationship, and she changed herself, and she just didn't like who she so it didn't, didn't work, but she found herself in another way, which is, like, led her discovering yoga, and she got off her medications and started eating really clean, and that really allowed her to, like, start to become this person who you know isn't being controlled by OCD and depression anxiety.Brad Crowell 21:25  Yeah, I think the thing that I loved about that, that kind of buckles right into it, is that change from something like that, you know, it was, it was fast and slow at the same time. And she, she kind of emphasized that it it was quick in the grand scheme of things, but it wasn't quick in the moment, you know. And she said she felt so lost, and was, was like she talked about, you know, having the will to live, you know. And she realized that, she realized the necessity of trying to be happy. She said it was a long journey, but it was her truth, and that her advice for others starting their wellness journey is to just start with one thing, one thing at a time, and give yourself time to do the one thing like this isn't like one thing today and a new thing tomorrow, and a new thing the next day and a new thing the next day. Just like, just focus on one thing. I mean, we're talking obsessive compulsive in in a way that I've only seen portrayed in movies. You know, flip the lights on and off multiple times, open and shut the door multiple times, stand up, sit down. She mentioned something about checking her books, something like 46 times. I don't understand that, you know. I don't even understand what that why she's doing when she's when someone would be doing that.Lesley Logan 22:51  I know I think like, it's like, now I want to know more about OCD, because I do think people flip it and go, oh, I have OCD. Oh, you know. And I like, and maybe you do, but if.Brad Crowell 23:03  I think there are different, like, extremes of OCD.Brad Crowell 23:05  But like, this is completely time-consuming. I mean, she had a traumatic.Brad Crowell 23:14  You mentioned that you were like, man, that must have been so much time. And she said, you don't even know. She's like, yeah, it was a lot of time. Lesley Logan 23:14  Yeah, like, and, of course, that's what I focused on. Like, how much time is that? Like? Just seems like a lot of time. Is one reason why I could, I don't think I could become OCD because, like, I just can't. I hate wasting time that would really.Brad Crowell 23:27  Yeah, really what she what she said was quick was the breaking of the habits. And she said that was, and that was also from a interestingly, it was like a traumatic moment snapped her out of the some of the habits that she had formed. And it was her grandfather. She got news that her grandfather was, I don't remember if he was diagnosed or if he had actually passed away yet, but she, like he, he was incredibly important to her and and there was, like this, this moment of clarity that really changed things for her. And it's she stopped the habits, and then she's, you know, so now she's not, you know, checking her books 46 times, standing up and sitting down, 15 times, you know. And she said, all of a sudden, I had so much time on my hands. And then she asked, like she said, you know, what are you going to do with it? You might as well do something that makes you feel happier with that time.Lesley Logan 24:22  Yeah. And I think, like, I think how cool that she got to do it at such such a young age. Because I and now she's, like, her whole life is so different. She has an amazing podcast. She's got a kid and, like, and. Brad Crowell 24:34  Yeah it sounds like she connected with a really supportive boyfriend, and now husband, who happens to have a great name. Lesley Logan 24:40  Yeah, is it Brad? Brad Crowell 24:43  It is and, but he, he, you know, was helping her through the steps that that, like, like, kind of, I guess helping her through is the wrong way out. He was there alongside her, through the change. Lesley Logan 24:54  And I think, you know, I think that can go both ways. I think it could be like, oh, my. God, like I if you're alone and like, I just wish I had someone to go through this with. If you are currently alone, you, there are, there might be someone you can hire or like a person to go through with, that like you could bring on versus a partner. Because not every partner, like, don't like, not every partner is as great as this person, right? So she had a perfect person to be on her side who would like, could see the person she wanted to become, and could envision that dream and like, be there for all the journey. But you might end up finding out you're with someone who doesn't want to be part of that journey, and then it makes it so. I would just say, like, don't be jealous, or think it, the grass is green on that side. If you're wanting to make a change like this, there are people out there who want to help you. You know, there are, there are services out there. And I that's one of the things I find so fast, and the more I learn about services in the world, there are literally services. There is a charity who will do anything. So, like, there's going to be someone out there, you it's not the easiest thing to, like, look for help. But like, we had that one guy on who talked about all the different ways you can get money or food or diapers. We just found out from the charity we donate to that they will help people who can't afford dog food get dog food so they can keep the dog so the dogs are not going to the shelter. So like, there is some so if you are needing help with something right now, and her journey has, like, sparked something new, like, please advocate for yourself to get help.Brad Crowell 26:23  Yeah, there's a community called the International OCD Foundation, or the IOCDF, and it provides education, resources, community support, professional training, you know, so you can there definitely are tools, you know, if you are feeling isolated, yeah.Lesley Logan 26:40  I love it. I think it's really, I think it's really cool. I don't, I don't know anyone who's had this, but I've always wondered, like, what it's like, and it was really nice of her to share that with us and then share how she's changed her life.Brad Crowell 26:52  Yeah, yeah. Lesley Logan 26:53  It's a true be it till you see it story. Lesley Logan 26:56  I'm it was, you know, and I'm excited for her that she, you know, has been moving forward and building these things, and, you know, starting a family and doing all this stuff. So that's great. It's, you know, I think she's clearly doing things that are making her happier. So, good for her. Brad Crowell 27:12  Yeah, we can all learn from that. Yeah. Brad Crowell 27:13  Yeah. Stick around, we'll be right back. We're going to dig into those, Be It Action Items that we had with Meghan Pherrill. Brad Crowell 27:22  All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Meghan Pherrill? She said, hey, start with meditating five minutes a day. It will absolutely change your life, just five minutes. And she said, if you're brand new to this, maybe set aside 10 minutes so that you can get five minutes in, because it is hard. You know, I can tell you from personal experience, what do you think about when you're meditating? Are you supposed to think about things? Are you like? You know, I don't really know. I've all these preconceived notions of what it is, she said, but ultimately, recognize that you can five minutes is just five minutes. You got this, right, but she said, choose a style that resonates with you. She said if you struggle with to quiet your mind, but you can listen, maybe you do an opted maybe you do a guided meditation where you're listening to a YouTube video. I've done this, you know, and that's I find that really helpful, because it allows me to focus on something instead of just letting my mind wander. If you prefer physical a physical element, you can try breath work style meditation, which obviously we've also done, especially with your, you know, being breathwork certified, and then that will really help you focus on your breath and, you know, counting and just focusing on that thing. You know, for you know, we often talk about in yoga and in Pilates, that it is a movement meditation, because when you're when you're when you are so focused on the movement, you cannot think about anything else like there's no room for it in your head. And that is a form of meditation, right? That's where that mind body connection starts to happen, kind of a thing. And she said there's plenty of relatable teachers and resources out there. Find someone online. You can find someone on YouTube or podcast apps who you like their voice.Lesley Logan 29:13  There is this one person who I heard on a podcast when she said that she has an 11-second meditation, she turns it on, and the person goes, inhale, exhale. That's 11 seconds. Brad Crowell 29:32  Amazing. Lesley Logan 29:33  Yeah. Brad Crowell 29:34  Well, you too can meditate. And then she said get comfortable. And she said, some people like to meditate first thing in the morning. So if you're getting comfortable in your bed, make sure you sit up, otherwise you're just gonna fall back asleep. But meditation doesn't require a rigid posture, per se, right? You don't need to be like stiff as a statue, or like a monk or whatever. You can lie down, or you can be in a comfortable position, you know, just be aware that it's you know. If you're doing it right after you've woken up, you might just fall back asleep on your seat. Brad Crowell 29:59  I get in the cold plunge before I meditate. That's just like, it's not gonna happen.Brad Crowell 30:04  Hey, that's a great idea. It's a great idea. And then you know when, when the two you're talking you were talking about permission to be imperfect, right? It's not about being perfectly still or having the clearest mind. It's about being kind to ourselves and setting aside time to let our brain think and process things, and you know, in a subconscious way that we're not like actively, you know, we're creating space for that's what the meditation will do.Lesley Logan 30:34  Yeah, we talked a little bit about one more thing that I think, is it's, it's really beautiful, and it kind of springs true with last week. So if you're avoiding last week's Be It Action Item, this is gonna keep knocking on your door until you do it. But first she said, follow that intuition of yours. Just run with it and go with it. I'm studying tarot right now, and you'll know why, because we have a tarot guest coming up. I'm studying it. And the High Priestess card is all about the intuition. And like, like, going into your intuition and having some making sure that you're, like, understanding, because it's mystery. Like, intuition is also like, a mystery, right? Like, what is it? What am I saying? What am I feeling? Is that my is that my words? But anyways, so you can think of it as a High Priestess card and learning about that. Or you can figure out, like, how, how do you best understand what your intuition is saying, What does it sound like to you? So she said, just whatever's calling you or resonate with you. Follow that intuition of yours. Just run with it and go with it like just leap, right? And then she also said, don't make it complicated. Just start and see how you feel. And she also reminded us to give it some time too. It's not a one time thing. So we said it before, we're saying it again, not a one-time thing, you have to keep doing it. And she also said, as you're doing it, how did I feel? How did I feel? And that's so important, because we know from how habits are truly created, it has to actually bring joy. And dopamine, get your dopamine high. If you don't, you're not going to get that habit. If it feels like it's shameful, or like you're judging yourself, it's possible that's not your intuition, and you're following someone else's thing, so.Brad Crowell 32:06  I think, I think that's one of the things I constantly remind myself, but also when people ask me, why do you do a cold plunge every morning? You know it's a decision. But how do I feel afterwards? I've been describing it as the best cup of coffee I didn't have. Yeah, you know, you feel alert, awake immediately, and the cold is only cold for a second. Right? And now, like, because I've done it so many times that, like, shock of cold water isn't really even there anymore, even when, when the when the temperatures in the 40s, you know? Because, yeah, it's cold, but, like, I already know what to expect. But afterwards, even with just three minutes, it feels, you feel your brain is going it is actually functioning. You're up and at 'em. It's awesome, so.Lesley Logan 33:03  I hate it and love it, and I actually, I was on Meghan's podcast, and she asked me about cold plunging, and she was like, yeah, because everyone's saying, like, you shouldn't cold like, women shouldn't cold plunge. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Because being a woman means being told to cold plunge and not cold plunge. Being told, being told to do this and not do this. It's like, it's like, just, we talked about in Amy Ledin's pod episode that's coming out in December, and we're talking about habits. We're gonna have a whole habit series. So this really is building up for that. But like being a woman today, with everyone going wear a weight vest, it's not gonna do anything. Do a cold plunge. It's the worst thing you can do during a little cycle. Blah, blah, blah, I told Meghan, I said, I don't actually care. I and you have to listen to the whole conversation, but I'm summarizing. I said, it makes me feel good, and that's all that matters. And when it doesn't make me feel good anymore, then maybe I do something different. But I'm only in it for four minutes, and I'm doing it for 15 minutes every day. It's four minutes, and it really does shake the sleep off, bring me to my life, and it makes me excited to start the day. Yeah, and I can't Why? How could anything be bad? If it makes you so excited to take on your day, there's no way that could be bad for me. Impossible.Brad Crowell 34:21  Well, Meghan's podcast is called Balance Your Life. I'm just gonna look up really quick.Lesley Logan 34:26  What episode number I was? Brad Crowell 34:27  Yeah, and I'm not sure exactly, so. Lesley Logan 34:37  I don't either, but it's, it's out. It came out. Brad Crowell 34:40  Did it? Cool. Lesley Logan 34:42  I think so.Brad Crowell 34:43  Yeah go look at the Balance Your Life pod.Lesley Logan 34:47  It's one of the top podcasts in Canada, so it's super cool Way to go, Meghan, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 34:52  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 34:53  Thank you so much for listening to us. Send in your wins, send in your questions. Send this to a friend who needs to hear it, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 34:59  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 35:00  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 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