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Celebrating wins is not about ego—it is about visibility and honoring the work you are doing, even when it feels uncomfortable to say out loud. Lesley Logan shares the powerful and often-overlooked story of Rosalind Franklin, using it as a reminder of what can happen when contributions go unclaimed. From a meaningful community win to a personal birthday mindset shift, this FYF episode encourages you to stop playing small and let yourself be known for the work you're doing. Because when people can see your work, they can actually be helped by it. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Rosalind Franklin's uncredited role in discovering DNA.How her research was used and published without permission.A community win from Ainsley sparked by taking action together.Lesley's reflection on why talking about your work matters.How a new birthday theme restored excitement around celebrating.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsHer Wiki - https://www.instagram.com/p/DQOCW0ajNNYThe Art of Gathering by Priya Parker - https://a.co/d/8WYiDU0 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:44  Hi, Be It babe. Happy birthday weekend. Well, it's my birthday weekend. Is it your birthday weekend? I know a lot of Aquarians. Hi. It's actually a Fuck Yeah Friday episode, and that means we celebrate wins that you've sent in, a win of mine. We start to see how wins can exist everywhere, and a little mantra for our weekend. So, first, have to do the inspiration. First have to do inspiration. I am so sorry. It's my own show, and I forgot my own order, also laughing to myself, because I actually went in to do this, and then got distracted with my ADHD, and then then I got distracted, and now I'm here. So welcome. Welcome to a podcast with someone with ADHD. You know, we're just we're just making it work. Lesley Logan 1:26  Okay, so here we go. Here's the inspiration that I found, and I this is really cool. Oh, this is really cool. So excited. This blew my mind, and I'm so excited to share with you. 70 years ago, a woman discovered the structure of DNA, but two Cambridge men stole her work and won the Nobel Prize. She was erased from history and died of cancer. This is a story of the biggest theft in science, and its main character, Rosalind Franklin. So at the King's College in London, a brilliant young scientist made groundbreaking discoveries about DNA structure. Her name was Rosalind Franklin, using advanced X ray crystallography, she captured the clearest images of DNA ever seen inside the famous photo 51 and here's why it was important. And you can get this on her Wiki org. Photo 51 was revolutionary. So there's an image of this like, you know, it looks kind of like a baseball. After 100 hours of X ray exposure had showed clear X patterns that suggest a helical structure. Franklin has already concluded that DNA likely had a regular, repeating structure, but was meticulously gathering more and more data before publishing. On January 30th 1953 the theft that changed biology occurred in a dimly lit King's College London office. Maurice Wilkins took out a folder containing Photo 51, Franklin's clearest X ray image of DNA, and showed it to James Watson. When Watson saw the photo, he reportedly became so excited he could barely concentrate. The X pattern was precisely what he and Crick needed. He rushed back to Cambridge, sketching the image from memory on a newspaper during his train ride. Within hours of returning, Watson and Crick began building their now famous metal model of DNA. They use Franklin's precise measurements from Photo 51 data, they had no permission to access, determine the exact dimensions of their model. Their paper announcing DNA structure was published on April 25th 1953. Franklin's own paper appeared on the same issue. However, it was placed third after Watson and Crick's despite containing the critical experimental evidence that proved their model, Franklin's only credit, a brief acknowledgement of having been stimulated by general knowledge of her work. The reality, without her Photo 51 and unpublished analysis, Watson and Crick would have been discovered months or years behind. Discovery would have been months or years behind. The final result came. Final insult, excuse me, came in 1962 Watson Crick and Wilkins shared the Nobel Prize in Medicine. Rosalind Franklin never saw that recognition. She died of ovarian cancer in 1958 at just 37 years old, likely caused by her extensive work with X ray radiation, Franklin's story is evidence of disturbing pattern science. Women's contributions get being minimized, credit taken by male colleagues, critical discoveries going unrecognized. Even Watson's 1968 book the double helix portrayed her dismissively, the truth emerged slowly over decades, her X ray work was crucial. Without Photo 51 no DNA model. Her mathematical analysis was pioneering. Her experimental techniques were groundbreaking. Today, Franklin is finally being recognized multiple buildings and programs named after her. Her face on medical walls, books document her achievements a Mars rover named Rosalind, but she never knew her true impact. Rosalind Franklin died, never knowing she'd helped unlock one of science greatest mysteries, but our rigorous methods, brilliant mind and dedication to truth exemplify what genius really means. I just think, you know, I mean, like, it's, how is it like? Is that positive? Like, now we recognize her and we didn't before, and I just think that, like, sometimes it's really, I think the moral is like, yay. Well, not the moral, but first of all, yay that we celebrate her, and yay now that we know this. And also you're gonna do some crazy amazing things, and someone else is gonna get a win, and it can suck so much, and it hurts, and so first of all, brag about what you're fucking doing. Do it. Brag about it, and I know that word is, like, really hard for a lot of us, women over a certain age, because we were told, like, never to brag, to be quiet, like it's actually ugly and it's not attractive, to brag and you have an ego. Bullshit. No. People need to know the work that you're doing and the work that you're working on so that you you can be the person known for it, right, for the things that you're doing, and I definitely struggle with that a lot. And luckily, like having to put myself out there has really helped me realize that, like, the impact that I'm making is is incredible, and the people who are impacted are doing amazing things that are impacting others, and it's a domino effect. So who am I to play small not talk about the things I'm doing, because then people who need the help that I have don't get it. People who need the help that you have don't get it, they don't know. So brag about yourself a little bit. And I, I love what Rosalind Franklin did, and I just there are, I encourage you, like if you're needing a bit of inspiration, and just like someone to help you, like, get yourself up and keep going, is find books that celebrate the women in history, because there's so many we didn't learn about because they didn't tell us, didn't tell us. So we have to go after it. Go look at it. Lesley Logan 6:33  All right. Let's get to some wins of yours. Here we go. This one is from, oh, it's our lovely Ainsley. My win's from San Fran. These photos pretty much sum it up, having so much fun in San Francisco, going to different studios with Jennifer Maison, a road trip to Sacramento with a show around at the Balanced Body headquarters by lovely Paul, chatting about our Cambodia times, they were all at the retreat in Cambodia together, and then the sushi adventures with Christine Kam-Lynch. Lesley, thank you for bringing us all together. You have dreams of creating community, and your dreams are making our dreams come true, sending me on adventures that would honestly explode my imagination if you would tell me three years ago that this is what I'd be doing. I trusted your process, and this is wild. Thank you. It was an incredible five days. PS, Lesley, I've only just seen the video sent to you. It was birthday margaritas. I'm so freaking proud of you, Ainsley, I'm so freaking proud of you. You know what's fun is, like, even if you had told me, like, if I had been told, like, oh, like, in five, in three years, I'm gonna be doing this, like, I'd be like, okay, great, I love this. Let's figure out we're gonna do it right, like I would believe it, and I'd still be wowed when it happened, because like so few people do what they say they're gonna do, so few people put the work in. I am so obsessed with all that agency and eLevate and OPC members do, because I know they're a fraction of the people out there who will actually do what they said they're going to do. They're a fraction. And so when they do it, I am so freaking excited for them. I love guiding people. You know, you thank me so much, and I, and I do take all of that, I receive all that gratitude. Because seven, well, gosh, how long has eLevate been around, Agency been around? Agency's been around since 2018. Eight years. Like, eight years ago, I didn't know what I was creating, but I knew what I wanted to create. And sitting here reading this win, I get to go, it's like a win for me too, because I get to go, wow. Like we did it. We created this community that expands continents, and people meet up with each other, and they take action, and I'm just so I'm just so stoked for you guys. I like, can't even get the words out. I'm so freaking stoked reliving that win, and though that video was so fun, and reliving what you're doing and but also, like, you have to be proud of what you're doing, because it's actually when I bring people together that isn't easy. But like, it's easy for you, right? Like, I bring people but you guys have to take the next step. You guys had to plan the trip and take the action, and you guys had to commit to it. And then amidst all that was going on, all of your lives still show up and do it. So many people won't, because there's a should have, could have, maybe I should be doing this instead. I'm just like, Thank you for celebrating this win with us, because I know you're inspiring other people to take action and allow themselves to be surprised by what could happen in just a short period of time, just three years, right? We think that's so long and it's so short, I can't believe it's only been three years since we've been doing this. So thank you. Lesley Logan 9:32  Okay, my win. So it's my birthday on Monday, (inaudible). I'm so excited about it, and I know I've celebrated past birthdays, like, I'm like, I love that like, I don't even care that. I'm like, it's another year on the book. It's like, it's like, so fun. But I will say, like, before Covid, I had the most fun birthday parties, and I loved it. And then after covid, you know, there just wasn't a lot of ways to, like, gather people together. Like, I had my first in-person birthday in Vegas. It was my second birthday here, and it was, I was looking at pictures about, like, I don't even know who these people are, because I didn't, I didn't know people. So like, just random people showed up, and that was a win. But then the 2023 and 2024, 2025, I just, 2025, I had, I actually, actually did have a birthday party, and that was really fun. But 2022, 2023 and 2024 I just really wasn't excited to celebrate my birthday. And it's not because I wasn't excited to get older. It's not because I was like, oh, like, I just was like, I just want to be on a vacation. I'm just a little tired. And that's because, like, as the business was growing and we thought we prepared ourselves for the growth of the business, you reflect and refine and go, oh, I should have been two months ahead, not just one month ahead. I should have been like, so you learn from these things, right? But it can take a year to put those new changes to effect. We always want things to happen tomorrow. That's just not how it goes, right? Like, some things do take time. At any rate, I would get to my birthday and I'm just like, I just don't even have the time for the invitations. I just don't even have the time to plan. I just want to, like, spa life. I just want to go to Mexico, like, so I did those things, right? And I'm proud of I'm proud of everything I did. I have great celebrations. But I really did want to have, like, a fun birthday. And I wanted to go back to having fun birthdays and excitement. Last year's was actually a great time. And so I'm like, oh, I remember how great these were. So Priya Parker, I think I told this as, like, an inspirational thing. Priya Parker had posted, she's the author of The Art of Gatherings, great book. And she posted, you know, this thing of, like, dressing for the wrong party party. And so I was like, I'm obsessed with this. Because first of all, everyone who has a January birthday or a late December birthday knows like, no one is excited for your birthday. Some people are doing dry January. Some people are broke because they just got their credit card bill from their holiday. Some people are sick. Like, it's just not like, not the thing. So I definitely have been like, there needs to be a reason to come. And I don't know if this will be an annual theme, because I don't know if people get bored with it, but I freaking love it. I love it. So I threw myself a dress for the wrong party party. It's happening this weekend, so I can't tell you what everyone dressed like, or what I dress up like, because now that it's like, I can dress however I want. I might change my outfit, I don't even know, but I have made the invites. I've sent them out. I have excitedly done it, not reluctantly done it. And so my win is I just found a way to get excited about the thing that I wanted to do, and I just wanted to share that with you, because, like, maybe it's not your birthday, but maybe there's like, things in your life that you know you want to do, but like, there's not an excitement around it. And I encourage you to figure out, like, what is, what is the thing that's surrounding the thing that you want to do that's blocking you from excitement? My, my win I think I just needed a new theme to do the birthday, and it made me so excited to do it. So that's my win. I did it. I no longer. I'm like, oh, it's my birthday. I guess I'll throw something together like I am freaking having a good time. And my husband, if he's listening to this, would go, we're having a good time. There's a funny comedian who does that. And so anyways, if you know him, then you'll have to. Lesley Logan 12:58  All right, my love and affirmation for you to take with you on my birthday weekend, I am complete as I am, others simply support me. I am complete as I am, others simply support me. I am complete as I am, others simply support me. Babe, you are complete as you are, and we are here to support you. So until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 13:23  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 14:06  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 14:11  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 14:15  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 14:22  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 14:26  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell unpack the conversation with Pav Lertjitbanjong, founder of Pavness Leadership Lab, and why job security is an illusion for most people. They explore what it really means to build career resilience so you feel less anxious about change and more confident in your options. The conversation also highlights the three key numbers Pav says everyone should know to create stability in uncertain times. If you've been waiting to feel secure before making a move, this episode is a reminder that security is something you build. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. 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Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Understanding career resilience as knowing your value beyond a job title.How emotional clarity reduces fear during career uncertainty.Understanding the role financial numbers play in personal stability.How strategic debt can support long-term financial stability.Why maintaining client relationships protects income for entrepreneurs.Episode References/Links:Cambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsPOT in London - https://xxll.co/potSpring Training: How To Get Overhead - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Posters - https://opc.me/postersSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsLayoff-Proof Your Life Emergency Checklist - https://www.layoffready.com/emergencykitPav Lertjitbanjong's Website - https://www.pavness.comEp. 352: Tess Waresmith - https://beitpod.com/tesswaresmith If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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And I think sometimes people go, oh, my ability to stay in this job is their decision when it's actually your decision. Lesley Logan 0:18  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Brad Crowell 1:01  Take it away. Lesley Logan 1:03  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the purposeful convo I had with Pav Lertjitbanjong in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now, go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. Yeah. Do both. You got time. You can also put it on a 1.5 speed. I mean, we talk fast, but you can still understand us.Brad Crowell 1:26  Yeah. I mean, it's gonna be awesome. It was actually a great, very transparent convo is the right way to say it.Lesley Logan 1:33  I would say so I actually really appreciate, like, having someone be so honest about the transition that they're on. I don't think enough people share that. And so I think that was a beautiful gift for everyone listening. Because otherwise you just listen, people got their shit together, and you're like, oh, they got it all together. And it's like, well, you know, they they have it looks that way, but it's a journey.Brad Crowell 1:53  Yeah. And I think, I think the idea of preparing to step away from a job is always a win, you know, to have it together on the inside. So that's good. Anyway. What is today?Lesley Logan 2:04  Yes, well, today is January 22nd. It's four days until my birthday, everyone. Brad Crowell 2:09  What? Lesley Logan 2:09  Yeah, but that's not what today is. Today is January 22nd 2026 and it's Roe Versus Wade Day. Roe Versus Wade Day is celebrated on January 22nd, the anniversary of the court case that gave women agency over their bodies. And here we go. The US Supreme Court made a ruling that legalized abortion throughout the country, with variations from state to state depending on the length of the pregnancy, no matter what your opinion is on the controversial abortion debat,e should not be fucking controversial, and it does matter what your opinion is. But here we go. Roe Versus Wade Day marked a pivotal turn in US history, the anniversary of landmark court decision celebrated by people everywhere, especially by women. Unfortunately, on Friday, June 24th 2022 the Supreme Court overturned Roe Versus Wade, the landmark piece of legislation that made access to abortion a federal right in the United States. The decision dismantled 50 years of legal protection paved the way for individual states to curtail or outright ban abortion rights. My loves. Brad Crowell 2:59  Which is happening. Lesley Logan 3:01  It's happening. It's happened. People, women are losing their ability to have have babies because they can't get what they need. The biggest thing if you, if you're like, uncomfortable with the word abortion, and I get that because if you were raised religious, you probably were raised and it's like, the worst thing anyone can do. And like all these women regret it. I can't speak for these people. What I can say is, men get to go to every fucking state in the country, and their rights don't change. But if I go to different states, my rights do change. And for the majority of the listeners, you go to a different state, your rights do change. And it's just really pisses me off that we don't have like that we're constantly fighting for equality in this capacity. And what this means is hospitals and doctors in the areas where there is not abortion available will have less experience and less understanding about what to do when a mother needs it. And if you try to tell me, in case of like, the healthcare of the mother, the doctors are so scared and they will have to answer questions. Brad Crowell 3:59  That they're not helping the mother.Lesley Logan 4:01  That they're that they're not so we have to wait till women go septic, yeah, which is the worst you you are lucky if you come back from that a normal person. So it just really pisses me off, because this is not a this should not be a fucking law. This is a health right.Brad Crowell 4:15  So as of November of this year, 2025, 12 states have near abortion bans, or for all intents and purposes, abortion bans in place. Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and West Virginia. Lesley Logan 4:32  Was Idaho on there? Brad Crowell 4:33  Idaho is on there. And addition, North Dakota has a near total ban that was recently revived in the state's Supreme Court, which makes it a felony to perform an abortion, except in limited medical emergency or cases of rape and incest. And that's the problem. The problem is the limited medical emergencies, and that's never clear. And so regardless of whether or not the doctor knows that that's what needs to happen, the hospital is basically saying, don't, don't do it because they're gonna get. Yeah or the doctors themselves are worried about it, because, you know, like, in Texas, they're like, going after doctors. It's nuts.Lesley Logan 5:09  There's okay. So I saw something recently, and I'm hopefully, as I as I say out loud, I'll get it right. So because some states are trying to grab doctors from other states that are helping women access abortion, right? Like some doctors from New York can send medications to people in different states and and allow them to safely, you know, have a decision over their body. And some of these states are trying to, poor women are going to different states, and then, you know, so the state that the woman is from is trying to do something to the doctors or the woman for doing that right in the place where they have a right. And someone explained it like, okay, Nevada has legalized gambling, right? But let's say you're from a state that doesn't have legalized gambling, and you go to Nevada and you gamble, and you win money, right? You gamble. It's proof you did it. That would be like the state you're from arresting you for gambling.Brad Crowell 6:06  So you didn't finish that. So then you go home to whatever state, yes, and they arrest you, yes. But you were in Nevada.Lesley Logan 6:12  Yes, where it's legal. Brad Crowell 6:14  Right. Lesley Logan 6:15  So if that, if you're like, oh, that doesn't make any sense. It's the same fucking thing when it comes to women's and abortions like this is and to be honest, like if you struggle with this, I really need you to do some extra research on what an abortion is, on what the Bible has even said. I need you to understand what, what, what week a baby is even viable on their own. And then I need you to look at how much it costs to be a parent, and you need to understand if you are also not voting for health care for children, for food at all of their schools and all these different things you do not care about life, you don't. If you are not, if you are also not voting for every single thing that makes it illegal to be poor in this country, you do you don't understand what being pro life actually means. And I know that sounds harsh, but that's how I feel. It's how I feel. I used to, used to think, okay, well, they can have a difference of opinion, not anymore, not when women are dying, not when women who are not able to have the babies that they want to have because something went wrong and that affects their ability to have babies in the future. No.Brad Crowell 7:21  Yeah, the laws that that are being passed are, I would argue that the terminology is confusing that I would not say it's fair to call them pro life. They're, in fact, pro birth. So they're, they're not looking out for the mother ever. They're looking out for what could hypothetically be a child someday, maybe. Right?Lesley Logan 7:43  Yeah, that they don't, that they're not going to care for once it's once it's born. Brad Crowell 7:48  Well, that's not necessarily the case but. Lesley Logan 7:50  I'm not talking about the parents. I'm talking about the law. I'm talking about the, the parents, oh, some of these people already have kids and they're like, I have enough. Some of them just are in the wrong time of their life. Some of them don't want to have them. Some of them, you know, it is with someone that they don't want to have a child with. This is all their rights to have. Brad Crowell 8:05  Yeah. I mean, the running joke is that the law cares before you're born, and then once you turn 18 and you can join the military, but between those times, good luck.Lesley Logan 8:15  Yeah, yeah. So anyways, I, I know, I know there's there's there's, I understand if you are someone who has a hard time with this topic, because I do remember being a child and a teenager and a young adult having a problem with this topic. And the more research I did, the more I realized how many, how, how hard it is for a for the woman in this country, specifically, and how, how much, how, in this country, we have women who will die giving birth because we do not do proper medical research, we do not care baby like we have a high mortality rate in this country that we should for a first world country, because of all, and because what I've seen what having a baby does with her body, it is her choice. She should be able to do what she wants, and there isn't judgment negatively around it.Brad Crowell 9:03  Yeah,we have a higher maternal mortality rate than most other high income countries. Whis is mind blowing.Lesley Logan 9:09  And then when you go deeper, when you go deeper, look at how high it is for black women versus white women.Brad Crowell 9:14  Yeah, significantly higher risk for black women and women over 40.Lesley Logan 9:17  And if you are worried, it's because, oh, maybe it's a different No, a high school educated white woman will have more likelihood of surviving over a medically educated black woman because of racism in this country and the stress it does on our bodies. My loves, like I will always, I will fight for women's rights, and one of those rights is having choice over what happens to your body, period, no matter what state you're in and if you don't want babies to be aborted, then you need to go to your congress people make sure that they're taken care of, because I think more women would even have a child if they had help and support. We don't do that here. So on this day, call your congress person, see what they're doing for people who have children and need help.Brad Crowell 10:00  Yeah, yeah. This is a tough this is a tough conversation. I think that. Lesley Logan 10:06  It's hard. Brad Crowell 10:06  Well, it's, what frustrates me is also that this is for 50 years the law was clear, yeah, and then three years ago now, we've got a bunch of Supreme Court justices who are like, just kidding, and they're just taking these kinds of rights away. And that frustrates me more than anything, is that that, that that's even an option. That shit, it was, it was the law of the land, you know. So that's, that's insane to me, and I, I think that the only way that stability gets created is if we are all paying attention to the things that are happening in our state and also in our federal government. But you know, right now, it's up to every single state to protect their women, you know, individually. And so it's important for you to participate in this and be educated and call the people who are making the decisions in your state.Lesley Logan 11:01  And also, it used to be, if you didn't like something for you personally, you just don't do it. So if you don't like abortion, don't get one. Brad Crowell 11:08  Right. Lesley Logan 11:09  But like, like, you know, it's just, it's really hard. It's just it get gets me really. I was just at the I was just at the women's clinic today. I love my women's clinic. If you do live in Las Vegas, the WHASN clinic. Shout out to the WHASNclinic. It is fucking phenomenal. At any rate, they have like, a sign on the wall, which is like, how to prevent pregnancy, right? And sterilization for a woman, or vasectomy for a man, are in are like, not going to have a baby, not going to happen, okay? And then they go through like, okay here are the birth controls. This is how we have to change them. This is how effective they are. So it starts to go from 99.9% to like 97% to 94% here effectiveness in preventing pregnancy. And here's what it said at the bottom of this. And this is like mind blowing that they do not teach people in school because they don't want you to know, because they want you. They want you dumb and pregnant. They if you are not doing anything to prevent pregnancy. So you aren't on a birth control, you don't have any protection going on birth like things like that. He doesn't have anything. You're 85% likely to have a baby if you are, if you have reproductive abilities and you don't, don't do any intervention, the chance of you getting pregnant annually will be 85% not in your lifetime, annually. So don't be shocked when people end up pregnant. People can, they can accidentally take not even accidentally. They could get sick and they need an antibiotic, and it it causes their their birth control to not work, literally, right? I have friends who had IUDs, and their parents got pregnant with them. So like all people can do all the right things and still have this pregnancy happen, and it might not be the right time for them, or it might not be the right thing for them, and they that is their fucking business. Period. I have no judgment towards people who do it or don't do it. It's up to you, but it should be up to you, and the fact that it's not in certain states pisses me off. Anyways, we do need to move on, yeah, but hope, hopefully you're off. I feel like people are fired up with us, but just pass it on to your friend.Brad Crowell 13:09  Yeah. Well, look, let's shift gears here. That's a heavy topic that we're obviously very passionate about. So thanks for following along. Here's what's coming up in our world here. So it's right now, today, January 22nd is the second to last day to get the early bird for joining us this year in Cambodia at a Pilates retreat at Crow's nest, right? So go to crowsnestretreats.com. Tomorrow is the last day to get the early bird. January 23rd is the last day to get the early bird. Go to crowsnestretreats.com or just DM us if you want the link, we'll send it over. Next week is Lesley's birthday, like she already said.Lesley Logan 13:44  I know, I'll be 43 I know, so good. Brad Crowell 13:48  We're just, we're just sharing that. We're probably gonna. Lesley Logan 13:51  No birthday sale. Brad Crowell 13:52  Go out to dinner or something here.Lesley Logan 13:54  Open a party, babe. We're having a party where you dress for the wrong party party.Brad Crowell 13:58  Oh yeah, yeah, we're doing that. That's right. Next month, February, Agency Mini is coming back. We're going to be doing Profitable Pilates is hosting Agency Mini. If you have ever felt like, what's the thing that sets me apart as a Pilates teacher from my my super close friend who's also a Pilates teacher, then you should come to Agency Mini. Lesley Logan 14:16  Yeah. Or if you're frustrated by the studios in town where they are lacking training their own. They're like, they're buying, like, cheap and cheerful $200 reformers and packing people. And you're like, come to Agency Mini because we will with you and also give you what you need to stand out, because that's what we do.Brad Crowell 14:33  Yeah, so go to prfit.biz/mini. Just make a noise over there. Lesley Logan 14:40  Just me making noise. Brad Crowell 14:41  prfit.biz/mini that's profit without the O dot biz. And then in March, we're going to be bopping around Europe and looking forward to that. We're going to be in Poland and then in Brussels. So if you are anywhere near either of those places, go to xxll.co/poland, or xxll.co/brussels. And then in April, we're going to be at POT in London. Lesley Logan 15:05  And by now it has announced. Brad Crowell 15:07  Yeah, it's announced. Tickets are available. So come join us. Come hang out. It's gonna be super fun. Go to xxll.co/pot. And then finally, this is new for those of you who listen every week, thank you for that. May. We are going to be doing spring training again, and this time, we have a really cool topic. We're going to be doing How to Get Overhead.Lesley Logan 15:25  Yeah, we're getting your butts upside down. Brad Crowell 15:27  Get your buns in the air. Lesley Logan 15:28  So if you struggle with overhead exercises, or you feel like it's not in your practice, or you want to be doing them, we're talking like back knives, headstands, control balance, all the ones upside down. Brad Crowell 15:39  Any of those. Lesley Logan 15:40  And you don't have to have to have equipment. We'll have mat classes, we'll have Reformer, we'll have everything. We'll have something for everybody. And if you're on the early bird wait list, for sure, you get a better access options all that good stuff. Brad Crowell 15:49  So go to opc.me/events that's opc.me/events plural, and sign up for the events waitlist. And you know, we'll let you know about the things that happen throughout the year, and then, yeah, so that's what's happening through May. And then this week, we actually had a question from one of our eLevate grads. Her name is Shannon Billings, and she pinged us on IG and she said, hey, I saw those, those posters that you guys made of all the exercises in a grid, and I want to hang them on my wall. Lesley Logan 16:20  Yeah, they're pretty. Brad Crowell 16:21  But I cannot find them. I don't know where I'm supposed to be looking. Where should I where can I find those posters?Lesley Logan 16:26  Yeah, so they're on the OPC site, and the quickest link is just opc.me/posters. And here's the coolest thing about these posters. You guys right now, we're not good at going to the post office, so these are print on demand posters. They're beautiful, so don't let that change. They don't. Doesn't change the quality. Quality is freaking awesome. Yeah, they're great. What it means is, when you, wherever you live in the world, they'll probably print it somewhere near you. So that means shipping to you is actually not astronomical.Brad Crowell 16:50  Yeah, it's pretty reasonable. We've had people order them in Europe or in Australia, and it's, it's not crazy, it's not an arm I'm gonna like to ship. So, yeah, go check that out opc.me/posters, and if you have any questions, just text us at 310-905-5534,Brad Crowell 17:03  Or beitpod.com/questions Brad Crowell 17:04  beitpod.com/questions where you can also leave a win. Lesley Logan 17:10  I just want to add to that, some people are putting two posters per poster frame. So like on one side, it's the mat, and the other side is the reformer or tower. And so if you have not a lot of space, but you want all the posters, order all of them, because you can get frames that have clear stuff on both sides, and you can just like, flip it. Brad Crowell 17:30  Flip it. Yeah. That's clever. Lesley Logan 17:31  I saw a girl who she has my posters, and then she has a different set of posters that are black and white. And so sometimes she wants color, sometimes she wants it to be not. So you can do that. Brad Crowell 17:41  Love that. Lesley Logan 17:42  I know people are so creative, you got to share that stuff.Brad Crowell 17:46  Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna talk about Pav Lertjitbanjong. Brad Crowell 17:53  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about your conversation with Pav. Pav Lertjitbanjong is the creator of Layoff Ready, the financial resilience program that she built before her work evolved into Pavness Leadership Lab. Lesley Logan 18:08  I love it. So cute. Brad Crowell 18:09  The Pavness Leadership Lab, I love it. She after a divorce that left her financially and emotionally depleted. She spent months avoiding the reality of her situation before finally facing her budget a single day of focus work that revealed nearly a half a million dollars in a forgotten 401(k), pretty crazy. From there, she paid off six figures in debt, rebuilt her stability and retired from corporate life at the age of 43. Today, through the pavness leadership lab, Pav studies how people build courage and make clear decisions under pressure, continuing her mission to empower others, to create long-lasting stability, confidence and options in your lives. Yeah. Lesley Logan 18:47  Yeah. I really enjoyed this conversation, because I think we talk a lot about strengths and knowing what your strengths are. And, you know, we even have a conversation about retirement coming up and things like that. But, like, I think people live in fear of different change, what if I lose my job, what if I lose this. But she's like, okay, so what if we've talked about career resilience and having a career resilience and so allowing yourself to really understand it's better, that it's more than just like, okay, I'm financially ready if I get laid off. It's like, no, like, how can you really understand who you are and what you do, what makes you amazing? So which I really love that she brought up, like, job security is an illusion. It fucking is. And it pisses me off that banks value a W2 when some of us are over here betting on ourselves and every year kicking ass. I'm just saying from personal experience, it's just me. But what don't you think? Brad Crowell 19:32  You're not wrong. It's really annoying. I mean, I don't know how else they would should do it, but like, just historically.Lesley Logan 19:39  Just look at my history. Just look at my taxes last look at what I'm doing. Brad Crowell 19:43  Yeah, there's that.Lesley Logan 19:46  But I but I appreciate that she brought that up. I think we I think people do need to know that their job security is an illusion, so that they can not only have career resilience, but also just be really aware of that they have a lot more power than they think. And I think sometimes people go, oh, my ability to stay in this job is their decision when it's actually your decision. You know, just like an interview, if you want a job, it's your decision, all that stuff. And she also brought up, and I thought this is really cool, the emotional clarity that gives you peace of mind. When you have career resilience, it gives you a lot more clarity. So I think it means, like, less anxiety about, I'm going to lose my job. What am I going to do? Like you just feel a lot better about it, you know? And it's critical, because we are going into a weird world of AI, and I don't even know what that means for a lot of people's jobs, because I teach Pilates, and luckily, right now, AI kind of sucks at doing that.Brad Crowell 20:35  Yeah. I mean, so the conversation that y'all had was more focused on not necessarily walking away from a job that you might currently have, but what if, right, being prepared for worst case scenario? Because who knows, you know, who knows? Like nothing is especially now, things feel very unstable, economically, I think it's more of a feeling than it is a numbers thing. But it doesn't change the fact that it's a feeling still, and people are feeling weird about it.Lesley Logan 21:04  Yeah, and weird feelings have changed economies many times in history. And so, yeah, I also think I just want to bring up.Brad Crowell 21:12  But the point the point is, then that, you know, not necessarily wanting to leave a job, but how do you be prepared for it? And this is the kind of thing that she digs into. Like, she, she talked about layoff being layoff proof.Lesley Logan 21:25  She even has a checklist for you guys, and I think that that is, if that's something you are, like, I want to be layoff proof. Like, I might as well start now. You know, you don't want to start it after. So it's layoff ready.com/emergencykit.Brad Crowell 21:39  Yeah, look, and here's the thing, for those of you who are entrepreneurs like us, you're clearly not laying yourself off. The best thing, the biggest thing you could possibly be doing is conveying to your clients how you are adding value into their life, and not necessarily you are, although inadvertently you are. Pilates is how is your teaching? How? What is it that is benefiting them? How is their life changing? And I'm working on a series right now with our Agency members, where I'm helping walk them through not only how to identify the benefits the changes that they're seeing, but also how to communicate those to their clients without feeling weird about it and not being overly like salesy, because if you can continue to reinforce the why that they initially told you that they were coming and then reminding them about the changes that you're seeing as a teacher in their world, right, it's going to change the way that they value their practice with you. So especially for y'all you know, entrepreneurs out there who laying layoff proof, like, what am I supposed to do for that? I'm not, I'm not firing myself. So how do we make sure that we are maintaining our income? We really have to continue to build relationships with our clients. You have to continue to do that.Lesley Logan 22:59  Yeah, I think that's and we actually have a relationship, like authentic relationship episode coming out soon, like, and they'll be in April. Brad Crowell 23:07  Amazing. I love that. Yeah. Well, one of the things I really dug that she mentioned was she said, how can you really design a life that you wanted to live? It could give you the freedom to walk away, whether that means leaving the job or retiring early. And she said, if you are waiting for security, if you're waiting to feel security, you should be building it, not waiting for it. So whether that is maybe you're learning how to do another skill, or maybe you're learning how to manage money, you know, we've had a bunch of people over the years in the pod about this, like Tess Waresmith is one that comes back to me here and talking about financial stability and literacy, financial literacy. So these are things that you could be learning how to just think through. Lesley Logan 23:51  We have Tess Waresmith coming back. Brad Crowell 23:53  Oh, that's even better. Lesley Logan 23:53  I just oh, it's a great interview, guys. It's gonna be so good. I was just like, girl, I need you to tell me how I'm supposed to do when it's like this, and it's crazy like now, when it feels crazy. I also just want to highlight the don't wait for security created. This is everything this is, this is be it till you see it right here, because I was listening to a phone call conversation in a book club I'm in, and some people were complaining that the situation they're in, they can't create a culture. They have all these other outside things. It's affecting the culture they're creating, and I'm listening to them and like, I get that right? And I was like, I waited a second. I was just like, well, I am in a different studio all the time. Like, I'm in a I don't have a studio, right? And so what do I do? And I'm like, oh, in every space that I go, I own the space that I am, and I create the intention that I want. I create the culture I want them to experience, and I set the stage and I shared that with them. I said, instead of waiting until you can, like, move studios or move this, what if you just acted the culture you want to create in the space right now? Because then, if you do get to change a situation, you'll already have practiced it. It'll be really easy for you to do, or you might not even have to leave. Maybe the culture just changes around you. And so it goes back to like, don't wait to feel secure. Create security. What is the be it till you see it? What does security for you in your job or something else look like? And how can you create it in the space that you're in and wait, instead of waiting for someone to wait for someone to come, put a fence up, you know, you know what I mean, like, you're gonna wait for someone to, like, hand you a lottery tickets you have extra money. Like, what are you gonna do? I think that I like the action step that she's providing here.Brad Crowell 25:29  Yeah, one thing that she was talking about, which might sound a little scary, she actively leveraged debt to to consolidate and then pay off her debt, right? I mean, I've done that too, where I took out a credit card with a balance. I transferred one or two or three credit cards to that one, right? It had something like, if you transfer it in, you get 12 months of, no, you know, no fees, yeah. And so, you know, took those 12 months to pay it down, yeah? So, you know, it just something that seems straightforward, but also might feel you might feel hesitant to get started on that, but you know that stuff's worth, worth thinking through. I think so.Lesley Logan 26:12  I think it's worth talking to people who who understand it too, like a wealth manager or things like that. But like to be honest, that is how the rich get richer, right? Like credit score is, if you're in the States, your credit score is pretty much just like, how do you manage debt? So if you're debt free, and you've always been debt free, and you don't get any cards, you actually don't have a perfect credit score, because you don't have credit for them to like, see how you do. So it is all about strategically leveraging debt to, like, increase that score. You can strategically leverage it to allow you to have the security you need for in case something negative happens in your career or in the journey that you're on.Brad Crowell 26:47  Yeah, well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna cover those Be It Action Items that you had with Pav. Brad Crowell 26:53  Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Pav Lertjitbanjong.Lesley Logan 27:07  Pav let us know if, after the four attempts, any of us got close on that.Brad Crowell 27:11  She said, Know your numbers, which is so funny, because this is like, I never stopped saying this to our coaching clients. It's so easy to know your numbers, but it seems so hard, right? It seems like this scary black hole of like, oh my God, I don't even know what I need to know. So it just seems like this amorphous, like blob of unknown. And when we dig into the things that most people need to really know is, what are your expenses and what are your income? Those are the things. That's where you want to start, right? What are your expenses and what are your income? Yeah, so she said, for her, it's, she said there's three numbers that truly matter. One is your net worth, right? So she's, she said, assets minus liability. What does that mean? An asset would be, maybe you have a house, right? Liability would be, I have a credit card debt and it has, you know, $10,000 on it. Okay, great. So you have a house that has, you know, or actually, you could say the house is worth $250,000 I still have a loan of $150,000 against the house. So I have equity of $100,000 right? So that's net that's your net worth, right? So that's an easier way to think about that. She also said the second number is something she calls an FU fund, what she describes as that six month cushion that lets you walk away from anything you have to, you know. And today we were talking about it. Maybe it's a little more than six, maybe it's six to nine months, or something like that, where you know, okay, because you know your expenses, and let's just hypothetically say your expenses are 10,000 a month, you know, how do we what's the quickest way that we can get to setting aside $60,000 that's a scary number to be honest. That's a lot, you know, but we got to get started. You have to start sometime, right? And that that kind of buffer will certainly protect you were something bad to happen at an employment situation, and then you feel like, stuck, and you're like, Oh my God, but at least you have a buffer, right? So that's what that that's for. And then finally, she said, your firing number, your fire number, how much money would you need to invest in the market so you can make smaller amount each year on 4% and still have money left to reinvest, right? So what does that mean? That's your like retirement number, right? So for anyone who's who's like financial planner, they'll ask you the question of, all right, how much money do you want to live on a month? Again, let's just say $10,000 and then they'll, what they'll do is they'll work backwards based on your your retirement portfolio, and they're going to assume that you'll be able to live if $10,000 a month is the 4% number, then they'll be able to reverse engineer the number and be like, great. You need to have $2 million or, I think it's more than that, but you'll need to, need to have X amount of dollars in your portfolio so that you can live comfortably on $10,000 a month and never have to worry about it again, because it's in the market, right? So, and the reason that she said 4% is because the average market return is eight, like seven to 8% or maybe even it's eight to nine, I don't remember, but if you can live on half of that, that gives you the other half of what you hypothetically are earning to reinvest back into the market again, right? So that's, that's where the numbers, that's how that kind of breaks down. It's a bit in the weeds. So thanks for following me there.Lesley Logan 30:25  I love that she has those and that you did those ones, because the other one is pretty amazing. And this is simple, but true. Bold doesn't have to be loud, but it has to be true. And so you don't have to have this, like, law, the way I interpret this, like you don't have to make this bold move where you're like, what was that Tom Cruise movie, where he just, like, was like, goodbye, fuck you. I'm out of here. Like, who's coming with me? And like, Renee's. What was that movie? It's the one that everyone quotes, and it's the worst one. Jerry Maguire.Brad Crowell 30:55  Jerry Maguire. Lesley Logan 30:55  Jerry Maguire. Brad Crowell 30:56  Show me the money. Lesley Logan 30:57  Show me the money. And like, but it doesn't have to be like that, but it but, but whatever you do needs to be true to you. And I think that's where a lot of people don't take time, is to, like, really understand, like, what do you want? What do you need, you know, and, and that's scary, because maybe what you want and need is different than what you've been doing, you know, or maybe you've been letting yourself realize, like, how strong you are. And we have a couple great episodes coming up about, like, getting to know yourself and like, also being kind yourself if you haven't lived in that way. But truly, I think that's one of the best be it action items, if you if you can do that, if you could live authentically to you, and you can know your numbers, you are resilient, and you could probably kick some ass. Brad Crowell 31:39  Kicks some ass.Lesley Logan 31:40  Yeah, yeah. So the other thing is, is that Pav has actually been, recently, been doing more coaching in a focused position on the science of making courageous decisions under pressure. And so if you are needing more help with like, making great decisions under pressure, things like that, you can also coach with her. And I think that'll be really if you liked how she sounds and how she coaches and her insight on things. I think that's a really great thing that she's doing. You know, because making courageous decisions are really hard, and also, like, she understands how to, like, take imperfect action, even your nervous system resists. And a lot of people, you know, when you have to make big decisions, sometimes your nervous system does have anxiety. And so of course, it does. Why wouldn't it? It it would be so against what our brain does to go into the fear. So I highly recommend reaching out to her. Brad Crowell 32:25  Awesome. Yeah, that's great. Lesley Logan 32:27  Well, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 32:28  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 32:29  Thanks so much for being here, and thanks for listening to our rants. I do happen to know that people like them and someone reach out after our Transgender Day, and they were so glad that they found us. They found our Pilates stuff, and they like our little rants there. So thank you for that. Send this to a friend who needs to hear it, especially one who needs some career resilience or some support, support under making decisions under pressure and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 32:53  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 32:54  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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After rebuilding her life from divorce and financial uncertainty, Pav Lertjitbanjong shares why job security is often an illusion—and what actually creates peace of mind. In this conversation, Pav explains how becoming layoff ready is about strategically creating options for yourself before you're forced to make a change. She breaks down the three numbers that bring clarity to financial decisions and why waiting for security keeps people stuck. This episode is a grounded look at what it really means to layoff-proof your life. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Pav found clarity after emotional overwhelm.Pav's own strategic approach to paying off her debt.What layoff proofing your life truly means for your future.Why job security is an illusion but career resilience is not.Three numbers everyone needs to feel financially prepared.Episode References/Links:Pav Lertjitbanjong's Website - https://www.pavness.comPav Lertjitbanjong's Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@momentsofresetPavness YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@PavnessLabPav Lertjitbanjong's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pavnesslabGuest Bio:Pav Lertjitbanjong is a marketing and brand strategist with more than two decades of experience leading strategy for global, billion-dollar brands. She is the creator of PAVNESS, a framework designed to help high-achieving individuals navigate major life transitions with clarity, courage, and intention. Known for turning complex strategy into clear, human-centered stories, Pav's work lives at the intersection of brand positioning, personal reinvention, and meaningful messaging. Her approach is shaped not just by her professional background, but by her own experience rebuilding her life through uncertainty and change. Pav believes true success is not defined by titles, revenue, or external validation, but by alignment and the confidence to be fully seen. Today, she helps leaders and creators reconnect with who they are becoming—both in business and in life. Her story is a reminder that clarity comes from honesty, and bold moves often begin quietly. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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So now I teach people how to take control of their money and rebound from any situation without overwhelm.Lesley Logan 0:22  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:05  All right, Be It babe, this is a interesting conversation you're about to hear, because I really was super intrigued by our guests today. I got to meet them several months ago, talk about what they're excited to do. They have actually been a listener of the Be It Pod for a really long time. They've been being it till they see it. And that's literally why they are sharing what they're doing right now. And so I'm super excited for you to hear about Pav and being layoff, layoff ready, right? And I think that's you might be thinking, wow, aren't talking about laying on, getting laid off? You guys, we have to. We have to. Some of you in your be it till you see it might have to be laid off, or might get laid off, or might want to be laid off. So, so I think this is a really cool conversation of like preparedness and also, like honesty about what is life? What is the life we want? Like, have we been honest with ourselves? And when I got off the comic path, we talked about confidence a little bit, and so it wasn't recorded. So I kind of want to just like, bring this in and then I want to you to hear this amazing episode from Pav and hear her journey, and hear what she's doing here, so she's helping people, because I think a lot of people are going to need, like, layoff proof their life. So, confidence, you guys, confidence, isn't something you are deemed with. No one gives it to you. It's also not something you go and get. Confidence comes from doing the thing you said you do. So every time you tell yourself you're gonna go for a walk around the block, and then you postpone it to like answer an email, you are actually etching away at your confidence. But if you go and do the walk, then you are increasing your confidence strength. A lot of people think, oh, once I'm more confident, then I will do X. No, do X, and you will become more confident, right? So with that said, thank you, Pav, for that wonderful question. I'm so sorry you guys, wasn't recorded. I hope that little tidbit gets you there, and here's Pav and Layoff Ready. Lesley Logan 3:02  All right, Be It babe, I'm excited, today's topic, I think maybe we've touched on it a little bit in people's stories, but never had like, someone who's expert at it, someone who's, like, truly been through the trenches and come on the other side, and like, has expertise to share with you, and like skill sets and all those things also probably one of the coolest Be It actions I've ever seen someone do. I hope we get into it as well. Pav, you're our guest today, can you tell everyone who you are and what you're rocking at? Pav Lertjitbanjong 3:29  Yes. Hi Lesley, thank you so much for having me. It's been an honor to be here. So I am Pav Lertjitbanjong. I'm the founder of Layoff Ready and a financial resilience mentor. So basically, what I do is I help professionals to help build income security and freedom. And, you know, before that, I was working in corporate, just like most people, and realized that, you know, finally it's the matrix that we kind of, like, you know, onto, like, this hamster wheel, and had this moment and eventually got out of it. So yeah, and I rebuilt my life after divorce, and basically, kind of left me completely shattered financially and emotionally, but I learned how to layoff proof my life, and now I'm, you know, quitting my job and retiring from corporate at 43 years old. So now I teach people how to take control of their money and and, you know, rebound from any situation without overwhelm and fluff.Lesley Logan 4:27  Oh, I love this. First of all, 43 and you're, like, retired. I think you had all of us. I mean, clearly you're working, you create your own thing, but like, you're retired from corporate life. Like, I think a lot of ears perked up, because that's not the option for a lot of people. I do want to take a step back, because I do love that you shared that like you have gone through divorce, you have had to pick up yourself and put all the pieces back together and start over, like a lot of people listening to the show, you know? I mean, I hope we have some Gen Z, but most likely, most of them are a little they're over 40, and we have been. And through things in life, and sometimes we can take it really personally and think there's something wrong with us. How can we go back in time a little bit like, how did you pick the pieces up after divorce? Like, what? What did you do to even get yourself to a place? Because I can't, unless your divorce was 20 years ago, it feels like this all happened very quickly, that you went from divorced and broke to, like, retiring from corporate. Pav Lertjitbanjong 5:22  Yeah and Lesley, thank you so much for asking me this question, and it's the one that I've kind of like pondered for so long, because, you know, like, when we've been through like, such dramatic situation like this, right? Like we don't usually reflect on the lessons that we typically learn from so I thought about that. So basically, okay, let me just maybe backward on, like, okay, my divorce situation. So I've been married for about seven years, and then, you know, things didn't work out. I think part of this now that I have, like, my renewed faith in in God and, you know, the universe, I believe that if you are onto the path that God is not blessing you, that is not your true calling, he will destroy that path. And that resulted into my divorce. And so the moment that I gathered courage to okay, say to myself that okay, I cannot be in this situation anymore. I need to really do something, or I'm gonna spend the rest of my life, you know, crying about it for the life that I have not lived. And just like what you always say, you know, we do it messy, and we, right? Lesley Logan 6:36  Yeah. Life is messy. It's, you can't like it can't not be, you know, like, one of my dear, my first assistants was a doula. She's like, birth is really messy. Pav Lertjitbanjong 6:48  Yeah. But, you know, I think, like, once you focus on something, and then you surrender to God, he will lead the way. That's what I've that I've believed in. So, you know, with my with my divorce, in order for me to get them to get a divorce, the first step, my lawyer said, Okay, you need to get your baseline ready. You need to do budgeting. And I'm like, okay, with an MBA in finance, I didn't know how to do budgeting, which was like, so crazy. And I'll tell you this, like with Layoff Ready, I have worked with some of the clients that are, like, higher up in corporate, and they are the same, I think, like, the higher up you are, you rely so much on like, so called experts to help with your personal life, life, right? Like, because you are so good at what you do, so you don't really, yeah, you you neglect what you need to do for yourself, because you just totally trust experts. And that's kind of how I've always been. So I had to start from the ground up in terms of, okay, like, what exactly is my net worth without my husband or ex husband now? And it took me six months Lesley, not because it was hard in the sense that, like, oh, all the calculation, because I'm like, a number person anyway, but the six months to actually feel the feelings, right? Like, really, gather all the documents and really, okay, this is it. You know, once I submit that paperwork, once I file this, then that's the beginning of the new life unknown.Lesley Logan 8:20  Thank you for sharing that. I think a lot of people don't do things because it really does mean by finishing it, it marks the end, like, that's the end of that, you know, like, whether it's a person who's passed away or a pet that's passed away, like, dealing with the their toys and the dog beds, whatever it is, like, once it's gone, it's like, well, they're really gone. Like, there's not even a sign of them around here. So like going through and figuring it out, like I can see why you would want to take six months, not because the numbers are hard, but because it's hard. It's just hard. Yeah.Pav Lertjitbanjong 8:49  Exactly, Lesley. And I mean, when you talk about pets, you know, I've been through that same situation too, and I am a procrastinator, and that's my new year resolution, which I'm kind of, like slowly getting there. Same thing, like, when, when my two, my two rabbits died from that marriage, you know, they came with me. It also took me six months to, like, clean up everything.Lesley Logan 9:12  Yeah, because it was, like, the last, you know, like the last thing of that, yeah. Well, so, okay, so during the six months, did you do anything to kind of help yourself out? Did you go did you stay home and, like, wallow? Did you go out? Like, how did you, like, take care of yourself and get to know yourself? Was there anything, any Be It Action Items that you did in there? Pav Lertjitbanjong 9:32  Oh my gosh, okay. Like, shamelessly saying, I did absolutely nothing, just like, wallowing, you know, being in, like, my shoe box apartment in New York City, because at the time, I already moved out of my my house, and I didn't really have much in savings at the time, because basically, when you're married, then, you know, things are kind of commingled in a way. So not so much. You know, that was probably one of the darkest time of my life. And you know, back to like what I did, and what did I learn from that, from from like, the whole process was that the power of budgeting that's so important. And let me just tell you this, Lesley, so after that six months, I decided, okay, like, I need to do something. I I'm gonna file that paper and get that budgeting done. Took me one day. Lesley Logan 10:20  Right. Pav Lertjitbanjong 10:21  One day. Lesley Logan 10:22  Right, I know it's really funny, isn't it so funny? Like, I think we can all, like, see ourselves in this I'm like, oh my god, I gotta write that email, or I gotta go to that thing. I gotta go, and then you go it was like, 17 minutes at the DMV that wasn't even that part. Like, it just feels so heavy. Yes, I understand. I understand. Pav Lertjitbanjong 10:38  Yeah. So it took me one day of focus work to get that going and everything. And to my surprise, when, like, back to when we're talking about, like, you know, when we surrender to God, God actually, like, help pave the way for you and I found almost half a million dollars in a hidden 401k account. Lesley Logan 10:59  That's half a million dollars? Pav Lertjitbanjong 11:01  Almost, close to, yeah. Lesley Logan 11:02  Oh my god. Pav Lertjitbanjong 11:04  So when you talk about save it and you forget it, I literally forgotten that. And no joke, like, serious, and.Lesley Logan 11:13  That's, Pav, that's insane. So, like, here you were, like, broke as a joke on a tiny apartment. Procrastinate. I just want to, like, reiterate this so that people, like, stop procrastinating, procrastinating and wallowing all these things. Then you do the paperwork and you have a half a million dollars.Pav Lertjitbanjong 11:30  Yes, close enough. So, so yeah, like, my life literally just kind of changed overnight, you know, with that one power of budgeting. Lesley Logan 11:39  And by then you'd learn how to budget. So that's great. So probably best, probably best. You had to learn how to budget first.Pav Lertjitbanjong 11:46  Exactly, exactly. Yeah. So that was basically like my moment that, you know, my whole life, Lesley, like okay as a woman, and actually not all women, but maybe like the way that I was raised, I always thought that, okay, the only way for me to become a millionaire, to become financially free, I need security of a man to help me.Lesley Logan 12:10  Oh, you're, I mean, I think, first of all, so in the States, women couldn't get their own credit card until, like, their 80s, 1980s right? So, like, like, in my lifetime, right? And I think I can't remember when women were allowed to buy their own homes, but at any the reason why, like, people are always like, oh, there's so much divorce now there's, no, women couldn't leave shitty shit because they couldn't own a home, they couldn't often find work, and they certainly couldn't have a credit card. So like, yeah, Pav, like, we're of the age where, like my mom, like her mom, couldn't, didn't have a credit card when she was of her own right. So my mom is the first person in my family that could have her own money. So I think a lot of us have that, that we're not raised with that. And so what you see around you, because that first generation above you, they all had to go through that. That's how they were raised. So it's completely normal to think that. And I think what's really cool is we've now had 40 something years of it. So it can change where we we all can be billionaires, and then we can marry someone, whether it's a man or woman who also is a millionaire, and then we can have more money that we can do good things with.Pav Lertjitbanjong 13:13  Yes, the more the merrier, Lesley, yeah, and I think, like to your point, basically, I think what went through with my life, even though I suffer for a long period of time, I felt that it actually was proud of myself that I was able to help, like, break the generational curse, you know, because that were, like, what you talked about, you know, like there were women that didn't really have those opportunities.Lesley Logan 13:40  No, and they weren't loved either, like, not for who they were, yeah, my gosh, Pav. So you get to this place where, like, oh my gosh. Now you're not devastated. I mean, you're devastated from the divorce emotionally, but you're not devastated financially. You have, you have a jumping off point. So can we, can we jump ahead to like, how do you go from like, okay, I am now I'm gonna go now I have a half million dollars. It's not enough to like, retire off of today. But how do you go from that to like, I'm gonna help people be layoff ready? Because one of the things that, like, I feel is so topical. We talked about this before I hit record, it's like, there's a lot of people being laid off right now, and with AI, which has its own devastating effects and also great things. We use AI all the time, like, there's going to be more. And so I think, like, you know, in case, in case, someone can't just randomly find an old 401K they forgot about, how do we prepare them?Pav Lertjitbanjong 14:33  Yeah, okay, so you have asked so many amazing questions. So like, let me break it down. So like, number one you were asking about, like, okay, how did they kind of jump start from like, okay, that's aha, moment that okay, finally, it can be my own rich man, or at least the starting point until, like, okay, helping people, right? So I think, like, ever since then, I realized that okay, now I can be my own rich man, that I cannot rely on the security of a man to. Lesley Logan 15:00  No, you don't have to. Pav Lertjitbanjong 15:00  For anything, right? Even though, like, okay, great, we, we would love to find my soulmate. I mean, our soulmate, and I'd love to have a rich husband again, but you're not better version. But, yeah. But I think ever since then, I realized the power of financial literacy and, you know, really becoming my own person, because I always had low self-esteem, Lesley, you know, I think it's just kind of like what we talk about, the general generational curse. So anyway, since then, I started, like, okay, studying investing, personal finance, you know, make sure that okay. Like, by the way, I don't think that I dropped that bomb on you yet. But I also, like, with that marriage, I had about $100,000 debt. So with the money that I found, even though I had the 401K, you cannot liquidate the whole thing, right? Because you pay so much taxes. Lesley Logan 15:52  There's rules. Pav Lertjitbanjong 15:53  Yeah, exactly. Like, like, it's your money, but it's not your money. Lesley Logan 15:58  Right, right, right, right. Pav Lertjitbanjong 15:59  Yeah. So okay, so I had to find a way to, like, supplement that. How can I make more money? So, like, one is okay, I already have a corporate job. It's good paying, but obviously it didn't really help fund my entire lifestyle because, like, I used to live large, but now on my own, I need to, like, okay, number one, downsize my life a little bit more. You know, like, I can't really go to, like, three Michelin star on a Friday, you know, if I want to, these days, you know, something that you have to, like, really plan on. And then, let me forewarn you, it doesn't apply to everyone, but for me, I actually strategically leverage debt to help me pay debt.Lesley Logan 16:38  Yeah, heck yeah, girl, are you, I haven't had one come in the mail, but I definitely when I was like, getting out of homelessness and getting back on my feet, I was like, oh, this card will let me be interest-free for 18 months. Heck yeah. We're taking this card move all this debt over, so now I'm actually paying it off, and now I have 18 months to pay this off. Yes, yes, I hear you. I, there's, but there, because there is better, there is better debt out there. Yes, for sure.Pav Lertjitbanjong 17:06  Exactly, yeah. So free money. So one thing led to another, I was and then Covid happened. You know when people talk about and okay, like, let me just be clear, Covid totally suck. Like, that should not happen, but for me, I was lucky, in a sense that okay, during Covid, you know, I got to work from home. You know, as a tech worker, you get to work from home, and I had a little bit time, you know, like during, like, early hour, because I work West Coast hour before to really do a little bit of day trading, you know, like, maybe the first two, three hours after the market stopped before I actually work my real job, and I got lucky, I was able to buy at the lowest, probably, and it kind of bounced from there.Lesley Logan 17:52  Yeah, that's what you're I mean, like, when everything was going crazy recently and going low, like our neighbors like this, I'm like, I'm not even looking. I'm literally giving them more money. I'm gonna give my people more money to go play in the other places that it's gonna be good. Like, obviously, to avoid these but, like, we'd be smart about it. But like, this is how people got rich in the Depression. You gotta buy when it's low and during those Covid times, good for you. You know what I'm hearing from you Pav is, like, you're not afraid to do something that is a little scary, and you're not waiting for someone to tell you it's okay. Like, that's pretty badass.Pav Lertjitbanjong 18:27  I've not always been that way, Lesley, but thank you. It's an honor hearing that from you. Lesley Logan 18:33  Well, I mean, clearly the, maybe it's the divorce that, like, made made you that way. You know what I mean? Because I think sometimes we go through hard things, we're like, whoa. Like you develop a skill set because you need to, you know, so, like, I think that's really cool. Pav Lertjitbanjong 18:45  Thank you. Yeah, and I think, like, the most important things, actually two things that I was able to gain from the divorce, not just, like, the money part, which that is great, right? Like, with investing, one thing led to another. I was able to, like, you know, make a lot more money from there. And by the way, I got a promotion after, you know, when I decided, okay, like, I need to make more. You know, the Power Focus is when you focusing on something like it actually happened, because God was just like, make sure that he orchestrate everything for you.Lesley Logan 19:17  Well, also you're putting yourself out there, and you and you said the right words, focus. I think a lot of people go, I don't have this, as opposed to, where can I get this? You know, like, you're like, I need to make more money. What's in front of me? And so I think that that's a really important distinction, because a lot of people like, I have no money, and they sit around going wallowing, I don't have any money, I'm having and they're like, look, there are days for crying, like you are going through a divorce, there's a few. You should have a few fuck, fucking crying days on the floor. But then you have to, like, get up and go, okay, what do I want? What can I do with what I have? And so I love the like, I'm gonna put in for a promotion. Like you don't get a promotion if you're not ready for it. Like no one's doing in corporate., as a woman, no, you had to earn that so, like, I mean, like, I'm sure there's not all corporations do that, but like, let's be real. Like, a lot of them, you have to prove that you are more than qualified for that job. So way to go.Pav Lertjitbanjong 20:12  Yeah, thank you. And by the way, to add on top of that, like, when you were talking about, if you don't ask, you don't receive. Like, that's so true, because, like, I had a co worker I came to and I asked her, like, hey, I want to put you on a promotion list, you know, as an endorser for this quarter. And she's like, oh, thank you. I really appreciate that. But, you know, I am like, I think I thought it was due to for promotion, like, last year. I'm like, well, have you ever asked for it? No. Like, if you never ask, you never get it. You don't get it.Lesley Logan 20:43  Oh that is, you know, it's unfortunate, but like, it's true, like, a lot of people get places because they just asked, you know, like, there's even just some opportunities that I have had because I just asked, not because I was qualified, you know, I mean, I had to be qualified enough. But, you know, like, sometimes it's just like, who, you know, so, or what, who, whom you ask. So, I love that. So, okay, so you got a promotion, you play the stock market, and then were you like, were you always thinking about, okay, I can't wait. Like, I want to retire from corporate early. Was that like the plan? How did, how did you go from like, getting promotion, working corporate and day trading, to going, okay, I'm gonna help people prepare their lives for a big change, like a change outside their control, because that's what Layoff Ready is. It's like you're ready if a change outside of your control happens.Pav Lertjitbanjong 21:32  Right. Yeah, Lesley, and that's such a great question, and to be honest with you, like I've always had in my mind that I want to retire early, because ever since I was young, I always knew that, like, this is not it, like my life should not be in PowerPoint and, you know, be a corporate robot. And even though, like, let me just tell you, I know, like some people talk about, like, burnout, or, you know, like, how they've been treated badly by their companies, I feel very fortunate, like my career so far in general, that I have been treated very well for the most part, and I'm really, really, really grateful for that. But I think I've always, like, had that goal that I wanted to be able to retire, like, before 45 or like 50, you know, and really do my own thing and live my life. But let me just tell you I never had that courage, too. So when you told me about, like, hey, Pav, you're a badass, you know, thank you. I can confidently say that yes, Lesley, today's Pav says yes, I am a badass. But like, maybe, like, two months ago Pav, or maybe, like, whatever, you know, 40 years old Pav will not be that. Lesley Logan 22:38  I think it takes time to realize, like somebody in one of our communities, just like, mentioned, like, something happened that four years ago, right? And I was like, and it's so easy to go, oh my god, it's been four years, like, as a long time, and then it's like, it's only been four years, like, I can't believe how, like, what you've done in like, such a short time. So, like, it's, of course, like you recognizing your boldness and your badassery, like, in the last couple of months versus three years, like, there's, I don't think that's even you don't have to just, you can act that's fine. That's exactly when you found it, you discovered it. And I think that's important because, like, there's going to be days we don't feel like that. But also we have to look back and go, whoa look what I did in such a short period of time, you know, like, a short period of time, like, that's kind of a lot of growth. So let's talk about Layoff Ready a little bit, because I think a lot of people think it won't happen to them. Oh, it's gonna happen to that person, but I'm really great at my job, or I'm, you know what I mean, like, I'm really excellent at this. Like, what are some things people need to be thinking about, or just, like, reviewing, you know, because it's gonna take them a couple weeks that they should be looking into to make sure that they're layoff ready. Like, what are some signs, or what are some actions? Pav Lertjitbanjong 23:47  Yeah, so first, and thank you for asking Lesley. So Layoff Ready is a freedom-based financial preparation. So it's not just like, oh, you know, like, hey, this is like, your investment advisor telling you to like, okay, this is how you allocate your your investment so on, right? But this is more about like, how can you really design a life that you really want to live in, you know? So to to decide a life that give you the option for freedom if you want to, it's not about like, hey, you know, tomorrow, or everybody goes and go into the office and like, hey, I want to quit my job because I'm layoff ready? Some people, maybe you really love the job that you're doing. But you know, like, what you touch on is, with this economy, is your job really safe? Not really, with AI rising, I don't think that anybody is safe, right? Like, for God's sake, people been talking about what like by 2032 we may not even like have jobs the way that we see it.Lesley Logan 24:47  Oh yeah, I think, and that's 2032 that is, that is a very short time away. It is seven years like I'm an optimistic person most of the time, and when I think about what AI is going to do, I. I think about like, it's not going to be great for everybody. It's going to be great for those who can use it. It's not going to be great for everybody. So I do think that like preparing ourselves to understand, like, what, what is a life we want to live. And I love that, like going through that so that no matter if you choose it or it chooses you, you can be, you can be, you know, you'll still cry, but you can have a next step.Pav Lertjitbanjong 25:24  Exactly, yeah, and I think, like, you know, it's also beyond, like, the financial preparedness or the career preparedness, but like, the emotional clarity and preparedness that comes with that, right? Like, basically, it gives you an option to be able to walk away from a situation or a job or even like people, or like, in my case, like a marriage that no longer align with with you, with your goal in life. And so for me, I think layoff ready, layoff proofing your life is about like, you know, being like, strategically creating options for yourself so you never feel stuck. Like, you don't wait for security, you create it, and you build the skills and the incomes before you need them. And you also, like, you know, help you stay adaptable, knowing that job security is an illusion, but the career resilience is real, and that's what I think is so critical these days.Lesley Logan 26:20  So many takeaways. But like, we don't wait for security. We create security like that, that is key, Pav, that is like, I think a lot of people have a false security with their gigs, with their jobs, you know. And I think also, you know, the way the world works, it gives them that false security. Like took my husband and I over two years to prove to the powers that be that we could afford a home, because we don't work for anybody but ourselves. Never mind that ourselves have made more money year after year. You know, like every tax season, you can see that where our company is growing, they're like, oh, but you work for yourself. No, that's not trustworthy. Well, I'm not gonna fire me. So like, feels pretty secure, if you ask me. But like, I think it's like creating that security and creating the things around your life. You know, when we were talking about Covid, like, which was terrible, yes, yes, yes. But let's talk about this. The good thing is that came as a lot of people evaluated what they were doing and what they wanted and what they needed, because they were laid off, you know, they were forced to do it in a way. But like with what you're doing with people now is like actually helping them decide it ahead of times they have to leave, right? Like they're not, you're not necessarily encouraging them to leave, but you're just helping them create the ability to have a decision.Pav Lertjitbanjong 27:40  Exactly, yeah, and, and I also think that when you layoff-proof your life, it not like, not only it just gives you options, but it actually gives you peace of mind as well. And I think, like, in this day and age, especially at our age now, it's, it's the most important. I think, like, it's like, way more important, even beyond, like, money or success.Lesley Logan 28:03  Yeah, yeah, no. I mean, I agree. Like, you know, they say, like, we have six, there's six needs we all have universally. So certainty is one of them. And like, we all crave it, right? Like, craving that certainty, like, the job is going to be there, the money is going to be there. But we also crave uncertainty. We want things to change, right? But what you're talking about and what you've promoted yourself to doing you retired from corporate to do this with people is like, help them be able to make a decision for themselves and have certainty around it.Pav Lertjitbanjong 28:40  Right, yeah. And I think one, one important thing too, Lesley, that I feel like we have been lied to, is I don't think that we need that much in life in general, like in this capitalism society, like, do we need, like, you know, 10 handbags or.Lesley Logan 28:57  Well, I do, but some people don't.Pav Lertjitbanjong 29:01  More power to you. More power to you.Lesley Logan 29:04  But I, but I do agree, like, it is interesting. Like, I actually believe in a healthy capitalism, right? Like, I actually think, like, Netherlands is really great. Like, I want to live there. They have a community-based capitalism. I'm in. But I do think that you're right that, like, there's a lot of lies, that the more stuff we have, the more rich we are. When really, like, I'm looking at a very full closet and like, when was the last time we opened this closet door? Like, when do we use these things? And so I think that there is something about what you're saying is like, we can layoff-proof of our life by just evaluating, like, are we living a life that we actually want or are we living one that we we're lied to about. Pav Lertjitbanjong 29:44  Right. Exactly. I think, like my point on.Lesley Logan 29:47  I'm sorry, I cut you off because I, because people know I have a lot of handbags.Pav Lertjitbanjong 29:51  Trust me, me too, like I used to work so close to Fifth Avenue, so totally understand, and that's why I never had savings when I was younger. Anyway, but, yeah, like, basically, you don't need millions to retire early if you want to. There are different types of retirement, or, like, we call it like a FIRE, right? The FIRE movement, Financial Independence Retire Early movement. So there are different types of FIRE that allows you to retire early. Like some people, for example, can, you know, retire with, like, a super tight budget. Some people retire with big budget, with what? So what that means they need to make more money, and they need to invest more and they need longer time to invest, right? Or some people, they call it like a barista FIRE. So for barista FIRE is more on you you basically you retire, but if you still, like, keep a part time job that gives you benefits, and, you know, like, still earn.Lesley Logan 30:45  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's like, my dad, because he can't sit still. Can't do it.Pav Lertjitbanjong 30:51  I mean, whatever works for, you know, for for him, or, like, for each person is totally different. But yeah, like, I before I retire, and I would say, like, now I'm more, like, you know, kind of in a way, like a same might retired, because obviously, like, I don't think that we can actually, like, sit still and just, okay, like, today I'm just gonna go to the beach and do nothing, even though it's so cool, but you get bored, right? But, but, yeah, like, you can live with so much less, and you don't need millions of dollars to retire. I think that's what I I've learned from that, and how I came to that realization, though, Lesley is because of the numbers. So, you know, like, when you were talking about, like, how can people prepare to, like, layoff-proof their lives? How can people prepare to like, you know, if they want option to retire early? Like, what's the first step to get there? I would say, know your numbers. So there are only three numbers that you need to know that is so important, like, one is your net worth, assets, minus liability. The second one, I call it FU funds. People have different definition of that, but my FU fund is more like an emergency fund. You know, when you talk to experts, because sometimes people say, okay, like three to six months. I don't think it's enough these days with inflation, right? You need, like, Yeah, six, twelve months. So, basically, exactly. So that's the money that you can kind of walk out if from any situation, if you want to, it's kind of like, okay, if you I go by kind of situation. And then the last one is the one we discussed, like, on the fire, like, how much money you need to invest in in the market in order for you to, like, take a smaller amount in, on average, I think it's about 4% that you can take safely from your investment, so that you can live on and still have some money left to.Lesley Logan 32:34  Reinvest if that that's working for you. I that's great. I think that makes it so easy. Because I think a lot of people think like, oh, gotta think about my retirement. I gotta think about my life. Oh, I got laid off crap. And it's like, if you only have to focus on three numbers, it makes it really simple. And I love this idea of, like, barista fire. These are fun. These are really great. Pav, who are you most excited to work with? Like, who do you want to like, are you do do like, who is it that you're wanting to make sure that you help people like, Layoff Ready?Pav Lertjitbanjong 33:08  So I typically work with more, like a high achiever, people in corporate but I think the most I would say, like underserved market is women, right? Like, women, especially a little bit older, like, 40 plus years old that has been in corporate for a while, and are more prone to be laid off. I think these are the demographic that I'm like, so excited to work with, because essentially, that's kind of like me, in a way. You know, I think when we pursue our, like, real, true passion project, or like I call like God's given purpose, you actually are serving the people that. How do I say that? Like your younger self, in a way, basically.Lesley Logan 33:54  Totally, everyone who listens to this podcast is, was me. Maybe there may be there different ages of the my younger version of but yes, we are all with we're the best. We are best able to serve the people we once were. So I love this. Pav, this is so exciting. We're gonna take a brief break. Find out how people can find you, follow you and work with you.Pav Lertjitbanjong 34:14  Yes, so you can find me on Tiktok at momentsofreset, M-O-M-E-N-T of reset, or layoffready.com. Lesley Logan 34:22  layoffready.com Yeah, I can't believe that wasn't, good for you, that was waiting for you momentsofreset and layoffready.com. All right, Pav, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps do you have for us to take away from this episode? Pav Lertjitbanjong 34:36  Okay. So bold doesn't have to be loud, but it has to be true. The life that you want is not built at once. So it's built in the micro moment of honesty to yourself, so until one day the outside world catches up, and you know, you just be it to till you see it, and people will see it too.Lesley Logan 34:57  Oh, that is so beautiful. That is actually so true, those micro moments of you being honest and you're that's so wise, Pav, and then the world catches up with you. I love, instead of us. I love that. I love that so much. Pav Lertjitbanjong 35:11  Thank you. Thank you. Lesley Logan 35:15  I, well, this is so fun, because it's not like I don't always have people who've been listening to show for a long time move and slowly being it till they see it on the show. Like it's just not something that happens very often. And so it's just so cool to hear the full circle. And for for everyone to hear the full circle of you going through the life that you went through, doing the hard thing, you know? And now you've got something that can help other people do it too. I mean, like, that's just beautiful.Pav Lertjitbanjong 35:42  Yeah. And thank you so much, Lesley, for I think, like, the work that you have done actually has not just only helped me, but I'm sure, like, it has helped thousands, if not millions, of people. You are doing God's work. So I think, like, I wish that that would be more of you. So thank you so much for all you have done. Thank you.Lesley Logan 36:01  Oh, Pav, I can't, you're the last thing in my day today, and I've never received that. I'm going to take it with me on a vacation. I'm so, so grateful. You know, if we all give ourselves the credit that we would give other people, right, we would realize that, like, we actually are doing great jobs, and it's just hard. It's just hard because you don't see all the efforting that's happening. You don't see all the people whose lives, but even you, Pav, saying thank you. And also you're going to give so many people permission on this show, you know whether or not they call you to be Layoff Ready but maybe they actually just go, oh, wait. I can actually just fill out that paper. It's gonna take one day or, oh, I actually need to sit down and think about, like, what do I want? What does wealth mean to me? Like, I think that it's just so cool, and you've just given some great things. So now you're on your way to impact more and more people in the world and it's going to be a better place because of people like you and people like me and people who are listening to this podcast. You know, people listening to this podcast, you guys are amazing people, cheerleading people all the time. And I say this to the people I coach you are the only person who can do what you do the way that you do it. You are it. And so don't be quiet. Don't be soft. Don't hide your magic, because there's people who are literally waiting for you. You know you're the only one. So, Pav, thank you for stepping out and creating Layoff Ready. I'm super excited for what you're doing and for the people who are gonna experience it. And everyone, share this with a friend who needs to hear it, someone who needs to hear a journey that someone's been on, someone who needs to hear that there is ways to prepare themselves. So no matter what happens, they're ready for it and but they even they can be like a barista fire. That's so cool. Didn't even know that. So Pav, thank you so much. And until next time everyone, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 37:42  Hey, be it babe. So what  I love so much about the guests that we bring on is that they continue to research what they are experts in and dive in deeper. And when they find new ways of helping people, they always reach out and let us know. And Pav has been doing a ton of research and science around. How to make decisions under pressure and what your nervous system is going through, and different things like that. So if you are working in the leadership experience or you're trying to dive more into that, or you have, you notice you're having a hard time making decisions. She's also coaching and advising people in that capacity. So if you enjoyed her energy and  her way of thinking about this topic, you're gonna love what she's doing over there.  Lesley Logan 37:43  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:47  Hey, Be It babe, happy January 16. Fuck yeah, Friday. Oh my god, we made it. We're here. We've got wins to share. We've got inspo to share. We've got an affirmation to mull over. We are ready to kick off your weekend. Do you remember like the TGIF? Oh my god, I lived for TGIF. I lived for the Full House. A step by step. I could still sing the songs in my head, not out loud, you know. And you're like, I know the words, but like, I can only hear them in my head, and not out loud. Gosh. Then there was Family Matters. Loved Family Matters. And then there was a fourth show. I feel like I didn't love the fourth show in those two hours, but anyways, so freaking great every Friday, and that's what this episode really is to be. It's like a TGIF. Who knows? Maybe that's what it becomes. Lesley Logan 1:26  Anyways, still want to celebrate your wins, because I want you to with all that ish that goes on. You are still making magic happen. Sometimes that magic feels really small, sometimes it feels really big, and we have to celebrate all of them. Okay, so this inspired me. Oh, my God, this it's from her wiki org in 1937 a 23-year-old woman fleeing her Nazi arms dealer husband, Friedrich Mandel boarded a train to London at that moment, no one could have foreseen that within just five years, she would develop war technology that would revolutionize the lives of billions of people, both living and yet to be born. That woman was Hedy Lamarr. According to the prevailing patriarchy, Hedy Lamarr wasn't supposed to be an inventor. She was the most beautiful woman in the world, a Hollywood icon. She's stunning, you guys like, gosh, her brows, her lashes, like everything. And her job was to entertain the men of her time. But behind the glamor, she was something else, a scientific genius, and she's about to change the world forever. Born in Austria in 1914, Hedy was a child prodigy. She took apart machines for fun. She could reassemble a music box at five. By her teen, she was obsessed with engineering and physics, but her life took a different turn. At 19, she married a powerful arms dealer, a man who sold weapons to Hitler. She sat through meetings with military scientists. She listened, took notes, learned everything, and realized the kind of man she married. She ran. She escaped Austria, disguised as a maid. She fled to Paris, then London, then Hollywood. She reinvented herself as a movie star, but while the world saw a glamorous actress behind closed doors, she was designing war technology. In World War Two, Hedy learned that the Nazi submarines were sinking ships. Torpedoes were guided by radio signals. But there was a problem, enemies could jam the signal and send torpedoes off course, she had an idea. She designed a secret communication system, one that could jump between radio frequencies, making it impossible for enemies to block. She partnered with a composer to create it using piano rolls as a model for frequency hopping. It was brilliant. In 1942 she patented the invention. She took it to the US Navy, and what did they say? Go entertain the troops sweetheart, or try selling war bonds. They ignored her, filed her work away, never used it. Decades later, her invention was rediscovered, and it became the foundation of Wi Fi, Bluetooth and GPS. Her ideas, her idea powers the entire modern world and the very same devices and technology men use to slander women and spread their misogynistic views. And she got nothing for it.Lesley Logan 3:53  There is some beautiful pictures of her doing stuff with the war you guys. It's worth looking at the post. She never made a single dollar from her patent, but by the time the world realized what she had done, she was old, broke and forgotten. The men who used her invention, well, they made millions. They also sidelined her from Hollywood, which forced her to go to Italy and pursue film production there. She invested all of her life savings to produce Love of Three Queens in which she also played multiple roles. What a cool woman. It was originally supposed to be a series of 39 half hour plays, but about the love affairs of famous women throughout history, but later pivoted to a full a film with only three of the original plays. The film was a massive flop, and Hedy ended up losing her entire life savings, which totaled to millions of dollars, and went back to America right after Hedy Lamarr died on January 19th, 2000 she wasn't just a Hollywood star. She was a brilliant scientist who never got credit, a woman whose genius was buried under her beauty. She changed the world, but history only remembers her face and even that very vaguely. So, Hedy Lamarr, genius, inventor, actress, the woman, the myth, the legend. I really am obsessed with that information. Do you feel like? I don't know? Like, the more you learn, the more you're like, wow. they just try to keep information from me. You know? They try to tell us different stories about history. They tried to make it seem like this happened, when this happened, or it's just all marketing, right? And I love that she just kept going. And I am sad that she died in the way that she did, but I really do love that she that she was a curious human and that she was thinking about ways to solve problems. And I loved her ballsiness that even, like, even at that time, I'm sure she knew they weren't going to listen to her, but she did it anyways. And I just think that, like sometimes we can get obsessed with a project we're working on and think, Well, I failed because it didn't work, it didn't sell, but you became someone along the way of working on that thing that didn't work in the way you wanted, and she didn't get the credit that she deserved. But all of us have more opportunities because of her, and so because of her, we should keep going. We should keep going. We should keep taking things on. We should keep challenging ourselves. We should keep learning. We can get kicked down, and we should get back up again and try again and not and most things won't be a success. Lesley Logan 6:08  Okay. I saw something I don't think I saved it to share with you, but it was just like, just the percentage of balls that, like, weren't home runs that Babe Ruth did, and just the percentage of like, flops this person had versus like, how many awards they had. And we tend to only think about and celebrate like the Oscar win, but we don't like we don't go, oh my god, they only have one Oscar win, and they've done 300 movies. We never do that. So because we never do that for other people, we shouldn't do that for ourselves. We must celebrate some wins. So you can send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions beitpod.com/questions and that's where wins go as well, and where our team will mark it as a question or a win, if it's a question we'll answer on Thursdays, if it's when we'll celebrate you here. And so our win today is from Miss Jordan Bebee and her win is big win this week. I have neglected using my Wunda Chair for quite a while now, so I decided it was time to break out my Wunda Chair flash cards. I started working through the order with whatever bits of time I had available each day, starting from the top of the deck each day to get the repetition. Whoa, that's so fun. By the time I got into my second week, I started feeling connected to my body that the week previous, I couldn't have dreamed of. Exercises that felt impossible to move were actually moving. But even better, I felt more connected to myself. Super excited to add my Chair back into my regular rotation. Thanks, LL, for the amazing flash cards. What a freaking cool way to do that. I am just so obsessed with how you all figure out ways to use these Chair cards and like, what a win you have. Like, I like, you're like, Okay, this is the start of the deck, and the chair has no order, so you just do whatever. And you go, like, went through and you started at the beginning. I love that. And you just were like, okay, I ran out of time. Oh, I have time for adding more cards. And the thing is, is that as you use them more, you have more time, you know, you can do more exercises in the same amount of time, because you start to remember what the card was and the exercise was. And of course, you're having more connections because it's consistency. And your body wants to move. Your body wants to move. A body motion says, Jordan, I'm obsessed with you, and this win. Thank you so much for letting us celebrate with you. Lesley Logan 8:08  All right, my win. So I'm home, I'm home for a while, and no, my win so my win is I'm home, but my my win is I actually took a wonderful vacation Brad and I did in Palm Springs. It's kind of a tradition after the tour, I guess we could take a vacation anywhere. But Palm Springs is really fun because you can lay by the pool, like, just and it's so fun you guys just to get so bored. Like, I bring out two or three books that way, if I get bored of one book, I have another book, and I just lay under a cabana. I'm not even out in the sun. I'm just like, outside near pool. I don't even sometimes get in the pool. I just, like, lay out there and, you know, order food and drink and just lay until I'm so bored that I'm like, okay, we should go into town and do something. Like, we should go do that. Ah, it's the best. Was the best. And so, you know, it's, it's interesting. Like, sometimes it's hard to like, rest and relax when, like, there's just so much going on that you think that you should be doing something. And the reality is, is like, we are no good to anyone tired. We are no good to any effort, tired and exhausted. And so I'm just really grateful. The other thing that I will share, like, I plan these things in advance. It's very helpful, because I'm someone like, have you ever, like, said yes to something two months in advance, and it gets here you're like, oh, why did I say yes to that? Because your, your past self knew you needed it, and the reason you're tired and don't want to go is because you you need to go do the thing that will refill your cup. At the party or the, you know, the dinner with the friend or the spa date or the massage, like your past self knew your future self needed it. And so I typically lean into that, because it's like, well, it's two months ago. I thought this was gonna be a really good idea. So let's just see what happens. I can always leave, right? So anyways, we just use those amazing points. That's why you have them, and just took some time and that, that's just the win I have. So see how a win can just be sitting down and getting bored. I want that for you, too. I want that for you. So let us know if you did. Send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions. Lesley Logan 10:11  All right. Um, I this is your affirmation, and then you can take on your amazing weekend. Go kick some ass. I deserve self-respect and a clean space. I deserve self-respect and a clean space. I deserve self-respect and a clean space, and I just want to take that clean space. Please don't be the person who's always cleaning your space, okay? Other people have to respect the space that you probably cleaned already and then they dirtied. So a clean space doesn't mean you clean your desk and then you get your work done. Nope, nope, nope. That's procrastination towards perfection. No, meaning that like people, you deserve self-respect, and people deserve to keep like your area around you that you did so well attending to make sure that they don't get to piss on it. So, demand it and delegate. And people can do they they'll do it differently than you, but they can still do it so that you can be you and not be busying cleaning up after all these other people. So, love you all so much. Until next time, Be It Till you see it. Send this to a friend who needs to hear it, please. It helps this podcast grow. I it would be the best thing you could do, my birthday is in a couple of weeks and if you want to get me something, it would be sharing our podcast or leaving a review or doing both. Thank you so much. Have an amazing day.Lesley Logan 11:24  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. 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This recap episode reflects on the soulful conversation with tarot reader and spiritual mentor Frances Naudé, unpacking why tarot is best understood as a self-reflection tool. Brad and Lesley explore how intuition is often quiet, subtle, and easy to overlook, and how tarot can act as a structured way to pause, journal, and build self-trust. This grounded discussion invites listeners to see intuition as a daily practice—one that supports clearer decisions and more aligned action over time.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Tarot as guided self-reflection rather than fortune telling.How intuition shows up quietly and builds through daily repetition.Using tarot cards as structured prompts for journaling and self-awareness.How tarot shifted from a self-reflection tool to feared over time.Training intuitive trust through small, low-stakes daily decisions.Episode References/Links:Cambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsPilates on Tour in London - https://xxll.co/potSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions Online Pilates Classes - https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/youtubeFrances Naude's Website - https://www.francesnaude.comFrances Naude's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@francesnaudeFree Intro to Tarot Online Course - https://beitpod.com/intrototarotEpisode 157: Kate Wind - https://beitpod.com/bitysiep157 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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It echoes what you already know and maybe what you're ignoring. When you draw a card in tarot, the card has some sort of meaning. Lesley Logan 0:18  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Brad Crowell 1:02  Take it away. Lesley Logan 1:02  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life are going to dig into the soulful, soulful, soulful. Brad Crowell 1:10  The soulful.Lesley Logan 1:11  The soulful convo I had with Frances Naudé in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now and go back and listen to that one, and then come back to this. You guys, this is the episode that kicked off my hobby. This is the one.Brad Crowell 1:27  And as a bystander of said hobby, I am going to tell you, Lesley has been incredibly consistent with this hobby for, what, four or five months now? Six months? Lesley Logan 1:38  Well, when I interviewed her. Six months? Brad Crowell 1:40  I don't have any idea. Lesley Logan 1:41  From the time that this, they listen to this, and then the time I interviewed her, I think we're at six months, four months. At any rate, I went full in on it, like the ADHD woman that I am, where you buy all the things my life makes so much sense now that I know that that's part of ADHD. You just buy. Brad Crowell 1:58  July. Lesley Logan 1:58  July, right. Brad Crowell 1:59  July. Lesley Logan 2:00  So, and this is January, yeah. So I bought all the things that one would need to study, a tarot, three different study guides and a app. But unlike all the other things that I have tried out, I have still been using all of the things, yeah. And there's a deck in every room. You can draw a card at any time.Brad Crowell 2:19  And you're, you know, reading about it, writing notes and being consistent, it's been great.Lesley Logan 2:25  I really like it, and so by the time you listen to this, I will have started drawing a card for each day so that I can do self-reflection daily. Yeah. So anyways, there we are. But okay, Brad's like, I know. All right, so they don't know. Brad Crowell 2:40  They do not know what is today.Lesley Logan 2:42  Today is January 15th, 2026, and it's Wikipedia Day. Brad Crowell 2:47  Wikipedia Day. Lesley Logan 2:48  So, and just so you all know, you can start getting ready, because my birthday is coming up. It's not yet, but it's coming up January 15th isn't it? Well, they don't know.Brad Crowell 2:57  Just making sure that everyone else, that has nothing to do with Wikipedia Day, but Lesley is preparing for her birthday.Lesley Logan 3:03  If they're gonna send anything, the time is coming down, because it's 11 days away. Brad Crowell 3:07  If they're gonna send something, send it to Wikipedia instead. Lesley Logan 3:11  No. Brad Crowell 3:12  Yeah. Send money to Wikipedia instead.Lesley Logan 3:14  No. Send money to your local SPCA group, not the major one that does the sad commercials, you're local one, okay, or you can send it up to Nevada's, and in my name, they'll, they already know me. Lesley Logan 3:25  Okay, so January 15th is an occasion that celebrates the birth and formation of Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia. Almost every single person in the world knows what Wikipedia is. When we search for something, a Wikipedia link is the first thing that pops up on our search engines. Brad Crowell 3:40  More often than not. Lesley Logan 3:41  It is also a popular site since it provides in-depth information and presents everything in a user friendly way. I love Wikipedia because of like, who is that person married to? You can just go right to that part, like, it's like a here's the bullet points. Okay, in-depth information and presents everything in a user friendly way. So without further ado, let's dedicate this day to the information provider that has been feeding us with the knowledge since day one. Happy Wikipedia Day, and surprise, I should have a Wikipedia page now. It's been a multi year journey. I think how I don't know how long Brad has been working on this project to gather all the information and create this page. I'm really excited about it.Brad Crowell 4:17  It's because I wanted to create a Wikipedia page that we hired a press person. Lesley Logan 4:22  Years ago. Brad Crowell 4:23  Years ago. Lesley Logan 4:23  Yeah. And by the way, how long? Like, there's rules, like, not everyone could just have a Wikipedia.Brad Crowell 4:28  Yeah, no, it's, it's not, you can't just write a story and put it up there. Everything has to be validated and, you know, credible and linked to other things. It's, you know. Lesley Logan 4:28  Because, like, you can't just go. Brad Crowell 4:29  It's intentionally factual and historic.Lesley Logan 4:39  Like, Charlie next door just can't go, like, I'm gonna make a Wikipedia page for myself. Brad Crowell 4:47  I mean, he could, but then the moderators would take it down the next day. Lesley Logan 4:50  Right. Brad Crowell 4:51  Yeah. Lesley Logan 4:51  Right. Brad Crowell 4:53  Right. And, I mean, it's also, you know, you can actually go onto Wikipedia and make any change you want to any page on there. Surprise, you can do that. That, but then it will be reviewed and either changed back or corrected or updated or whatever, or again validated. So, you know, the pages that are constantly growing, it's because there's external like verification for the source of this new information that's being added. It's very intentional. And the reality is, we didn't have the links back, the backlinks, to be able to say, well, Lesley did this. Lesley did that, or whatever, whatever, whatever.Lesley Logan 5:31  Because you can't just go, I did these things. They have to go. Where is the proof? Somewhere else that someone else can validate. You know that you did those things. Brad Crowell 5:38  Exactly. Lesley Logan 5:38  Yeah. But I'm now old enough. Brad Crowell 5:39  Congratulations. Lesley Logan 5:39  I'm famous enough, yeah. And if you want to, you know, look, Wikipedia does a thing every December where they want money, because they actually are free for you to use. And they need, they do a money drive every year. So if you want to give them their money, they're a worthy cause, yeah.Brad Crowell 5:52  I mean, I think I give them $3.50 a month through PayPal. Lesley Logan 5:57  Oh, well, that's so fun. Brad Crowell 5:58  I've been doing it for years. Yeah. Because if everybody does every time they do their drive every year, they say, if everyone just gave $3 then we would have all our bills paid for, right? And I was like, well, I can do $3 a month. How about that? Yeah.Lesley Logan 6:12  That's so thoughtful. Anyways, Brad and I are driving back from Palm Springs today. Brad Crowell 6:12  Right now. Lesley Logan 6:12  We were on vacation. Yeah, we went on vacation, and we're driving, and it's beautiful. We're probably picking up more cactuses because there is a cactus shop on the way from Palm Springs. Well, at least the way we go from Palm Springs home. So we'll have to see which cactus where we don't have yet that we want more of. And then, right now, the early bird discount for the retreat that is this year is happening.,Brad Crowell 6:12  Yeah, for Cambodia. Pilates Retreat. Lesley Logan 6:18  So if you've got an email about it. You are one of the few people who got it, and there's way too many of you on the waitlist that we could take on this year's retreat. So you definitely want to snag your spot before they're all gone, before the discount ends. Brad Crowell 6:49  Yeah, and no lie, we've already had people sign up. We had, like, secret invitation to some people, and so some spots were already snagged, and then we're already halfway through the early bird, so definitely, if this has been something that's on your radar, do not wait on this. Lesley Logan 7:06  You want to come. Brad Crowell 7:07  Yeah, go to crowsnestretreats.com for more information. But for those of you who are on the waitlist, check your email.Lesley Logan 7:14  Yeah, and if we are in your spam you need to tell your your spam folder that we are important people.Brad Crowell 7:19  Yeah, hello. We've Wikipedia page. Lesley Logan 7:21  Right. What does it take to get out of the promotions folder? Damn it. Okay.Brad Crowell 7:26  All right. Next month, February. Lesley Logan 7:28  Is Agency Mini, and it is for Pilates instructors and studio owners who work for themselves or want to, and they want their business to actually not just make the impact that they want to make, but also more than pay their bills, to have to align with their values, align with their goals, feel like they're more in charge of it all. And it's just a really beautiful program that we do. It's three days of your life, and it has replay access. And we've made some additional changes to this one from last time. So you're gonna want to go to prfit.biz/mini to sign up for the waitlist, because those on the waitlist will get the early bird. The early bird is coming up pretty close, because if it's happening in February, we always do an early bird a couple weeks out, so you don't want to miss that. After Mini, in March, Brad and I are going to go to Poland and then to Brussels. So there's a Contrology Pilates conference in Poland. xxll .co/poland I'm teaching alongside Karen Frischmann there. It's going to be a whole lot of fun. We've done it a couple years before, and then we're gonna be at the Pilates and Friends or the Vintage and Friends event at Els Studio Pilateles in Brussels xxll.co/brussels there are private and group classes, and then there's also these amazing workshops. Oh, and one of my dear friends who I haven't seen in years, is going to be at the Brussels one as well, so I'm super excited to teach alongside him again. It's been, it's been since, like, we were together at Jay's studio, so awesome. And then in April, Brad, so after that, Brad and I are gonna do a little second honeymoon, why not.Brad Crowell 8:53  Well, to celebrate our 10 years of marriage, that's one.Lesley Logan 8:56  Yeah, well, yeah. But like, why not? Is like, of course you would, yeah. And then we're going to be at the P.O.T. in London. xxll.co/pot will get you the information up at the London stuff. The lineup is amazing. It's our first time doing a P.O.T. in London. So that's really exciting. And that's actually also, by the way, these events are the only events outside our tour that you can hang out with us other than the retreat. That's it. Closing the schedule guys.Brad Crowell 9:23  Whoa, whoa, whoa, all right, before we go any further, we had an audience question, and today's question is from YouTube, from The Alternatives to the Pilates Teaser for Lower Back Issues video, Kelly asks, hey, actually, it's kellynyhan7909. Hi, Kelly. She said, Hey, could you share a class that is using a floor or standing using the floor, slash standing and a chair? Could you share a class? If that's possible. I've gone through the list of mat exercises and created my own ie side twist sitting and saw but I'm wondering if more for an aging population. It, if it would be good for all i also use the standing exercises from another video for the 100, the roll up, one leg, single leg, circle marching, etc. Lesley Logan 9:49  Great. So. Brad Crowell 9:50  You're gonna have to break down this question for me, because I don't actually have an idea what this question actually is.Brad Crowell 10:08  So, the idea, so she definitely asked a question has nothing to do with the video, which we tell people that they can do anytime they want. Brad Crowell 10:21  True. Lesley Logan 10:21  So what you want to look at, Kelly, on the YouTube channel is we actually released a entire long form video about how to do Pilates at work. So there's going to be some great suggestions. You can draw some inspiration from there, if not use them completely. We also have on the YouTube channel a standing workout. There's a whole workout you can do standing. There's a wall workout, a real wall pilates workout. And then over on OPC, Mindy created a really great stretch class using a chair. And you can use she was on a Wunda Chair, but Brad was on a regular chair, and it spliced in there. So I would definitely grab that workshop, or maybe it was a stretch class. It was another legacy tab, and that's what I would do. And the other thing I would just give you permission on is, after you've done all that, that's a lot of movements, right? A lot of exercises. And our bodies actually only do so many different movement directions. And so you don't have to keep getting creative. You actually need they can get more curious and more connected. So I would get all those inspirations together, find out the ones that work best for the population you're working with, and then make them get better at it. And if they if that's not just time that's going to help them, then what other exercises outside of those things would help them? What props, what tools, you can use the Accessories Deck and OPC to help you with that. So yeah, I understood the question. Brad Crowell 10:21  Great, amazing. Lesley Logan 10:21  Probably a good thing, since I'm answering it, go to beitpod.questions to send yours in.Brad Crowell 10:50  Nope, beitpod.com/questions Lesley Logan 10:50  beitpod.com/questions and then submit your questions and maybe send up send a win, too. Something to celebrate. Brad Crowell 10:50  Yeah, send us your wins, y'all. Lesley Logan 11:49  You can also text us at 310-905-5534. Okay. Frances Naudé.Brad Crowell 11:58  Yeah, stick around. We will be right back. Brad Crowell 12:01  Okay, now let's talk about Frances Naudé. Frances Naudé is a Reiki Master, tarot reader and spiritual mentor who helps people reconnect with their intuition and live in alignment with their true selves. She's also the creator of the Four Noble Tarot Deck. Tarot Deck.Lesley Logan 12:19  You can see Tarot. Deena says, tarot. Brad Crowell 12:22  Oh, okay, and offers free tarot readings and energy guidance.Lesley Logan 12:28  Frances might say tarot, but.Brad Crowell 12:31  On YouTube, along with regular insights on Instagram from her global community, for her global community, that she affectionately calls The Soul Fam, guided by her belief that intuition is our greatest tool, Frances teaches others to trust their inner wisdom and lead with joy, courage and authenticity.Lesley Logan 12:50  Oh, my God. I was just so excited. I was like, okay, I have so many questions. Tell me everything.Brad Crowell 12:55  I really enjoyed your one question about the history.Lesley Logan 13:00  Oh, are we gonna talk about that today, or is that not in today?Brad Crowell 13:03  We are gonna. Lesley Logan 13:04  Skip it today? Brad Crowell 13:05  Well, no, it's not, it's not on here, but I thought it was very interesting. So yeah, let's just talk about it. Lesley Logan 13:09  Let me tell you something, because I think there's more to the story. And obviously we had a short period of time, so I asked her where tarot, tarot came from, right? And she's like, like, how controversial we want to be. And I said, I want to know the truth. And so she said the church, the church had it, and then the church. Brad Crowell 13:26  She said it was around before the church, but she said the church basically, adoted it. Lesley Logan 13:30  Well, they appropriated it. That's a better word for what the church does, and they appropriated it. And then, you know, you would go to the church to get support over something you were thinking about contemplating, and then they would help you use it as a self-reflection tool. Because the printing press wasn't big, and only rich people could have tarot decks painted for them, right?Brad Crowell 13:50  Right. So can you just say that one sentence? They would help you, using the tarot, tarot cards as a self-reflection tool. They would use tarot cards as a self-reflection tool. Lesley Logan 14:04  Yeah, well, and that's like, that's gonna go into what I love about what we talked about. Brad Crowell 14:13  But let's keep going with the history. Lesley Logan 14:09  Okay, so then the printing press became a thing, and so then people could just print their own tarot decks, and then they didn't need to go to the church. And so obviously that was like, not gonna work for the church, because then they'd be obsolete. So they made tarot decks be like. Brad Crowell 14:25  Well, I'm sure you tithe to have your reading or whatever, to have your self-reflection, so effectively it was costing them money. So what did they do? They made, they demonized tarot decks. Lesley Logan 14:35  The same thing they did with women healers. They demonized those too. They demonized. That's why the reason we have witches, witchcraft, all these things, is like, oh, that one point it served the church, and another point they decided to get rid of it, because it would mean they didn't have as much power. And now it became a witchy pagan thing. And let me tell you, after I heard this, I felt like my whole life was a lie. I was like, oh, my God, everything. I've ever been told that is evil and bad was actually good. It's all been good, right? You know. So anyways, we can talk about the witches they burned on another day. But I talked to Kate Wind, who we've had on the pod before, and I said, Kate, how come I didn't know that tarot decks came from the church? And she said, well, the church, we think the church took them from the Romanians, like, which the word you don't use anymore, but like Romanian gypsies, for lack of a better, like, what we're gonna call them. However, there's also some information that could have been from India as well. Brad Crowell 15:43  Interesting. Lesley Logan 15:33  But you know what? Just like we've been to Cambodia, and you're at the temples, and they're like, exactly the opposite of Machu Picchu what is what is. Brad Crowell 15:43  They're opposite on the globe. Lesley Logan 15:45  Right and so and so, it's like, to me, when I hear these things could be at the same time. It's like, because there was this human knowing that there's another way to figure out what's going on inside you. And so tarot doesn't actually tell you anything new, it echoes what you already know and maybe what you're ignoring. And so when you draw a card in tarot, the card has some sort of meaning. We'll just talk about like the upright position has some sort of meaning, right? And what you're supposed to do is reflect upon that meaning in your own life. And so I've been studying in different ways. Like I was talking to one of my besties on the phone yesterday, and she was talking about how she's doing this inventory in her life, and she's letting go of people who don't like ping back her serve, right? You know, like you gotta, it's gotta be or that she's not pinging back on them. And I was. Brad Crowell 16:36  It has to be mutual. Lesley Logan 16:37  It has to be mutual. Get this, one of the card I was studying yesterday was the moon, and the moon is this card where you're like, okay, what in my life is an illusion? Where am I? Where am I off the I'm on the wrong path. Where am I needing to let go of some things.Brad Crowell 16:53  Sorry, did you say where am I lying to myself? Lesley Logan 16:56  Yeah. Brad Crowell 16:56  Oh, recurring theme from last week's.Lesley Logan 16:58  Yeah, right. Same, same, exactly, well. And by the way, you are just doing the exact same thing you should do with tarot, which is, like you did something today. We recorded last week's show, and now you're learning about this card, and so you're using it as a way to think differently or think deeper about, self-reflection. And so I'm telling you guys right now. I mean, Frances said so many more amazing things, but like, this is the thing, if my therapist had told me pick up a tarot deck and journal, I would have been, my life problems have been solved a long time ago. Because I, this has been like, what am I supposed to reflect on? You know what I mean, like, is that not like the question you, like when people say self-reflect, like you have to do self-reflection. Like, do you ever wonder what that means? I just don't. I was like, what does that mean, though? How do I do that?Brad Crowell 17:46  Yeah, sure, but I mean, I don't know that. I usually, I'm, if I'm self-reflecting, it's because there's something that is wrong, and I'm I'm probably self-reflecting about that thing. I'm not just generally self-reflecting. Lesley Logan 17:59  Okay, well, that's good, but also you're that sounds like you're only doing it when something's gone wrong. You're not doing it when something's gone right. Brad Crowell 18:04  Well, sure. Lesley Logan 18:05  Right, and so in tarot, you could have something going well, or you could or it could be, like there could be you can use it as a yes, no, decision maker like to help you make decisions in your life. But like, everything is about it has guidance and information and the symbols, and, like we talked about that, and it helps you kind of understand, it actually helps you have empowerment. That's what she said. She said it really is all about empowerment and helping people be able to navigate their own inner wisdom and then apply it forward. And I think that's the coolest thing about it. It's like a lot of us have so much goodness, and we can only give it to our friends. We can never give it to ourselves. Brad Crowell 18:38  Yeah. So this is where it's interesting for me, right? Because, like, first off, I think that, like this interview, I found very curious. I actually really like listening to Frances. I think, I think it was revealing. There was also some things that were, like, definitely a double woo on the woo scale that I was kind of like, you know, but, but here's where I also think. Lesley Logan 18:59  Brad, remember, we went to two woos, starting 2025. Brad Crowell 19:02  Okay, but let's, let's, then she's in the 2.5s. So, so here's the thing, she also is not just doing tarot. She's also doing Reiki, right? And yoga. She's a yogi as well, like energy work, all that kind of stuff. So there's definitely she's got a lot going on. And so her answers were not exclusive to tarot. Right? And that's where, like, sometimes I was kind of going, well, you know, like, I've actually, you know, had Reiki performed on me and all that kind of stuff in the past as well. So I don't, I don't discount energy work. I think that it's, you know, we all have, we literally have a scientific magnetic field. I get it. I understand that it can be influenced with things and all the stuff. So I don't, I'm not saying no to that, either. But what I, I think that, having grown up in the church and having been like, told that like, you know, basically, tarot is the devil, you know, and looking at it like you know, effectively, it's almost like fortune telling, like, you know, you look at tarot, it's always in movies put alongside somebody with a crystal ball reading your future, and it's always portrayed as utter bullshit.Lesley Logan 20:10  Yes, I think that was part of the programming. So we would avoid it.Brad Crowell 20:13  I think so, too, you know, but, but that's just the that's where I'm coming from with it. That's the worldview that I've had my entire life, until I'm, you know, watching you do this, and listening to her talk about it. So, you know, I think that there's still that weirdness around well, when I'm having somebody else read my tarot cards, you know, this is not fortune telling, right? And I think that's what we should be very clear. They're not just making shit up. Lesley Logan 20:39  Correct. And even when you have, when you do go get a reading like Kate does them. Brad Crowell 20:43  Is it a back and forth, like you're, you know.Lesley Logan 20:45  You didn't have, you didn't get one from Lindsay? You didn't get one from Lindsay? Eric's place years ago.Brad Crowell 20:51  Maybe I can't remember, I think I did, but I can't remember. But, but the, but, like, the question I had, like, it's not like I'm sitting there in silence. They're flipping cards and telling you what's going to happen. It's more of a conversation and the person is helping you come to these conclusions.Lesley Logan 21:05  It probably depends on the on the facilitator, but essentially, the tarot readings I've had is I had one I didn't really like. I actually asked Kate about it, and she was like, she feels like she's being a little more predicting, versus like, asking you. But the one that Lindsay did, Lindsay (inaudible). Brad Crowell 21:21  She didn't do this. I think I remember it. Lesley Logan 21:21  She did a reading with me, and she pulled these cards. And I don't remember the type of spread it was, but it was basically okay. So in the past, right? She had, like, a past, present, future spread of some sort. And so in the past, she's like, okay, in your past, you had x, y and z, that is currently affecting where you are presently. So what's going on in your present life was like, let's just say you drew the full card, which is the car. Like, this is the person's like, going off doing something. They're not probably prepared for it, but they're excited. And they are like, are just going for it, right? But there's these mountains in the way. They're gonna be obstacles, but they have clear skies ahead, because there's gonna be something amazing, like, that's the full so in your past, you had this opportunity to do something amazing, and that sets you off on your present and then the present card, it could be the moon, okay? But presently, you have some illusions. You might be misaligned, and you know, like this. And then in the future, oh, the future, you've got an emperor, right? I'm just picking cards that I remember by. Brad Crowell 22:22  But the idea here is that there's, like, different positions, and one position is past, one position is present, one position is future. Lesley Logan 22:29  If you do that, yeah. Brad Crowell 22:29  And then, and then the the cards help you reflect on different things from your past, from your present, from your future. Lesley Logan 22:30  Yeah. So then you can ask your and then there's self-reflection questions like, okay, what does this make me think of is there a decision that I need to be making right now that I haven't been making? Is this, is there, is there, like, you could be doing a financial spread, and then the cards could be, you take all the meanings of the cards and it's a financial spread, and you're like, oh, if you get this one, like, there's one card that, if you get it, it's like, oh, you should take more drastic, dramatic action in your investments, right where you could draw a different card that's saying, oh, you should be more careful.Brad Crowell 23:07  But this comes down to the predictive, not the reflection. And that's where, like, that's where. For me, this is weird.Lesley Logan 23:12  So I'm explaining to it in a way that, yes, I could hear how you're saying it's predictive, where you would then take it as going, oh, okay, where can I be more aggressive in my financial investments. Where have I been too like, maybe you got the card upside down. Where have I been too aggressive in my financial investments? So you take the card's meaning , and then you apply it to your life based on the spread you're doing. And this is why we couldn't, didn't have the time to get into this. Brad Crowell 23:38  So it's like in the present, and then the whatever the card is, maybe the card is saying, let's talk about how this, you know, this, you've been too aggressive, or let's talk about how you've been not aggressive enough.Lesley Logan 23:49  You could actually draw a card that is all about intuition. And so then the question is like, okay, what is my intuition saying I should be doing today, or I should be doing right now, like you're.Brad Crowell 23:58  But this is what, okay, now that we're talking about it clarifying in this way, it's bringing me even more on board, because it effectively is almost like talking points. Yeah, each card represents a different talking point, a different analytical way of looking at your own past, present and future. Lesley Logan 24:16  Correct. If you do that spread and so what you are supposed to do is listen to them explain what each card means and the position that it's in, and then go and apply it. Meaning, like, reflect upon it and go, okay, it like, let's say you're doing a spread that has to do with your your career, right? You, right now, Brad, are currently doing a lot more sales in the in our business, right? You could end up with, like, doing a spread where it's in the future, it's showing you as having more leadership roles. Okay? So then it's like, okay, well, if in the future, I might having to take on more leadership roles in this business, then you know, what do I need to be doing today to prepare myself? How much of how, what does that feel like for me? Do, if that is something I was going to take on, what would I like to learn about myself? What would I want to do? What should I be doing now? So that can be even a possibility, right? So, like, it just reflects upon different things. And also, it's not predictive. It's just they're all each card, what it represents is more. It's like, not, I don't want to distill it down to a vibe, but it's a vibe, right? Like, and they represent different feelings. There are some cards that, like, the cups are all about emotions. So when you draw Cups cards in your spread, and maybe it's a day spread, maybe you just do one card a day, you might draw the 10 of Cups, which is all about relationships. So then it's like, Okay, today, where can I invest more in my relationships? So for me, I prefer the Day card, because it's like, okay, it's like a focus for today, but you can use them.Brad Crowell 25:50  It's almost like a journal prompt, you know it's like, it's like a preconceived 365 day journal prompt.Lesley Logan 25:56  Correct, I bought a whole journal that does one a day, and they have stickers. And I was like, fucking in. I'm doing it. I got stickers for I got a tarot card sticker. Brad Crowell 26:03  This is cool. I like this even more now. Lesley Logan 26:05  And so and so, for me, the way I've been studying it is, like, the card I'm studying, I'm literally going, how today did I see did, like, when I was studying, like, the Empress, like, oh, how today was I, like, using these things that she has or, or I wasn't using these things. Oh, there was that moment today where I outsourced my intuition to this person over here. So it just helps you reflect upon yourself and get to know yourself more. And the thing is that we all need if we want to have self-love, prevent burnout, be it till we see it. If you don't know yourself like you, you don't know how to listen to yourself, then it becomes really hard. So I have really got obsessed with it, because I'm like, oh, this is a way for me to have a conversation with myself that is somewhat guided and that it's whatever card I drew, whatever card I'm learning from that day, and that allows me to reflect upon today or my past or whatever, and uncover and almost like an onion, peel back another layer without outsourcing my agency.Brad Crowell 27:06  Well, I was just talking about this. Well, first off, that's really cool, and I and I agree, I think it's awesome that this is like, you're not outsourcing, you're not nothing wrong with going to see a therapist or anything like that. That's not what I'm talking about. But it's nice that this is something that you can do on your own. And I was just talking about this with someone about self-reflection, and I love that this is effectively a self -reflection practice.Lesley Logan 27:29  Yeah, that's and that's like, I really was so pleased that Frances explained it in that way, because correct, like you, I went to a tarot reader thinking they're gonna tell me what could be coming up in the future, and I forgot the time that Lindsay did it. And more was like, okay, you've been through X, Y and Z according to your past. You're it's currently affecting in this way and presenting in this way. And in the future, this could be coming up, and you should be aware of it. And it's like, so that sounds predictive, but also I still have to be the one who goes and does the thing. So I need to reflect upon, what did I learn in the past when it comes to that area that this card is representing? What am I currently going through that this card is highlighting, and then this future card is sharing, is putting this as a thing to be looking at. Doesn't mean it's predictive, but like, if that, like, what do I, where's the gap? What do I need to know? What does that, what feeling does that bring up in me? You know? So it's not, it's more of a guide, it's just a guide. I really like it. And I, and I am so pissed that I this was it took me 43 years of my life to know this is something I could use. I'm so grateful for Frances.Brad Crowell 28:38  Well, nothing like a little anger to make motivate you to learn.Lesley Logan 28:41  Yeah. Oh, and also, people keep asking if I'm going to do a reading, and the answer is no.Brad Crowell 28:46  Okay, so here's the deal that's funny that you say that, you know, how do you you know, I just want to briefly touch on this before we move on to some great Be It Action Items. But because I just hijacked your whole conversation and asked about the process and the belief behind it and how it works, which I am glad we did, because I feel like it was good to clarify that I had also written down some notes about the conversation you had with listening to your own intuition, right, because you asked her questions about how did you know that you could do this full time as a career? How did this turn into a career? And I'm gonna skip a whole lot of my notes, but ultimately, she said, you know, pursuing the unconventional path requires being your own staunchest supporter. Because you were talking about, how was it like at a family picnic with people like you're doing what now are you can I like, pray for you? Lesley Logan 29:32  Oh, I could only imagine. Brad Crowell 29:32  Yeah, right. And so.Lesley Logan 29:32  When I told people I was a Pilates instructor, that was already weird. Can you imagine telling them that you're doing Reiki and tarot?Brad Crowell 29:40  Right. So, you know, and what she said, It's not that you have to have the it's not that you have the confidence already. It's that you trust so deeply that you're that what you're doing is what you're supposed to be doing, which is listen to it, to your intuition, right? She said, you do it scared anyways, which is being it till you see it? Right. And she said that builds your confidence. So I just wanted to make sure we got that in. I thought that was really awesome. But stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna uncover these Be It Action Items that we got from Frances Naudé. Brad Crowell 30:09  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Frances Naudé? She said you have to learn how to hear and trust your intuition. Learn how to hear and trust your intuition. And she said, here's a three-part practice for building your intuitive muscle. And this is great, because learn how to hear and trust your intuition is not helpful for me, but here's three steps. Here's how you do that. Start with small daily decisions, things that you do every day, like choosing your tea, picking produce, or selecting which pair of underwear to wear, because that's what she does. She picks it up and she goes, is today, this pair of underwear day, or that pair of underwear day? And she's building this intuitive muscle, you know, like listening to herself, feeling it out, right. And she said, why does she do it then? Because it's something she repeats every single day. She has to make a choice right then, and so she's.Lesley Logan 31:04  I'm obsessed with it, because it goes in line with how habits are created. Brad Crowell 31:08  Hundred percent, yeah. She says, pause and feel after you make the choice, stop and notice what does it feel like in your body, and what energy do you have when you've made that decision. Then recognize the nature of intuition. So this is step three, recognize the nature of intuition. It's quiet. Often feels like a passing thought can lead you down paths that challenge your comfort zone and beliefs. She said, your intuition often will not make logical sense. It might not actually be loud. People always expect these really big moments, but intuition is often really quiet. So she basically, she's reminding us that daily awareness practice will help you build trust in your own guidance long before the big decisions show upLesley Logan 31:48  And to the next step, then ,you have to do that first. You guys don't get to skip ahead, do that first, the next step is to define your highest self. So this is the person we're being it until we see, right? This is a place that exists without ego, she said, without fears, worries, anxieties, and without other people's stories. So yeah, get rid of the other people's stories that are in your head, telling you who your highest self is. And then she encouraged you to clearly define who that self is and live by it. And she, Frances actually shared her three pillars of her highest self, which are, she lets joy lead. She does not let fear get in her way, and she lives in unity with all that's around her. I think that that's those are really tough things to kind of do, because we all want to control how things are. But if you let joy lead hence the going back to last week's episode, I love that these are back to back episodes, and then not letting fear get in the way. That means doing things scared. You know, going back to last week's episode. So so she also said, when you combine a strength and intuitive muscle with a clear vision of the highest self, every decision you make, you are walking that aligned path, even when the noise gets loud. And I just want to say that one more time, when you combine a strength and intuitive muscle with a clear vision of that highest self, every decision you make, you're walking that aligned path. So that's what I want for you guys. And I'm really, really like, I hate how long it took us to get this episode out, Frances, because, like, I've been working so hard on my tarot, but I really am super excited that it's coming out this time of the new year, when people can actually, like, instead of going new year, new me, it's like, what, what, who are, is your highest self. That should be the thing that you're thinking about. And then what can you do every day to walk in alignment with that? And that's going to help you with all the ups and downs and highs and lows. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 33:31  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 33:32  Thank you, Frances Naudé. Y'all, how are we gonna use these tips in your life? What were your favorite parts? Make sure you tag Frances. By the way, you guys, she does a weekly drawing every single Monday. It's quite fun to attend live, and I'm sure you can get to know more about her. And look, I probably got some of this information wrong, but this is my interpretation of it. I'm sticking with it. Don't take it from me. All right, until next time. Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 33:52  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 33:54  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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In this grounded and eye-opening conversation, Reiki Master and tarot creator Frances Naudé joins Lesley Logan to reframe tarot as a tool for self-trust, clarity, and empowered decision-making. Frances explains how tarot doesn't predict your future—it reflects what you already know and may be ignoring. Together, they explore how creating space, asking better questions, and learning to trust subtle inner signals can shift how you navigate decisions, career changes, and personal growth—reminding listeners that self-trust is a skill you can practice.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Tarot as a mirror for intuition rather than a tool for prediction.Why intuition speaks quietly and how to make space to hear it.How asking better questions leads to clearer, empowered decisions.The difference between tarot and oracle cards—and how to use each.Strengthening the intuition muscle through repeated daily decisions.Episode References/Links:Frances Naude's Website - https://www.francesnaude.comFrances Naude's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@francesnaudeFree Intro to Tarot Online Course - https://beitpod.com/intrototarotFrances Naude's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/francesnaudeFrances Naude's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@francesnaudeGuest Bio:Frances Naudé supports her global community through her work as a Tarot Card Reader, Tarot Card Deck Creator, Reiki Master, and Spiritual Mentor. Her keen ability to channel hyper-specific messages from Spirit has helped thousands of people co-create an aligned life of purpose, joy, and holistic wellbeing. The Soul Fam, as Frances so lovingly calls her clients, can choose to receive from one-on-one sessions (both remotely and in person), online courses, mentorship programs, the Four Noble Tarot Deck, or free virtual readings and healings on YouTube. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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It's like, the universe slapped me in the face. It is like really, it is kind of like that, because Tarot never really tells you anything new. It just echoes what you already know and maybe what you're ignoring.Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:53  Be It babe, just having the best day recording for you. I just have to say this, like, it's been one of the most wonderful day recording. But I also just want to say, like, this is a topic that, like, I was like, oh, I wonder how we could talk about this on the Be It pod. And then it got to like, you know, I really am interested in this. And then also it became even more important as we got into this conversation. So Frances Naudé is our guest today, and we're going to talk tarot, and even if you think you don't need to know about tarot, that's not what this episode is about. This episode is about how can we trust ourselves more? Can't be it till you see it if you don't have trust in who you are. And we talked a little bit about confidence and just really understanding, like what, what is going on inside of ourselves? And I just think that this is the most informative episode when it comes to self-trust and confidence that I've had in a long, long time. And I really can't wait for you to hear it. And there's also a history of where tarot came from that blew my fucking mind. Blew it, blew it. So here is Frances Naudé. Lesley Logan 1:56  Okay, Be It, babe. This, this topic I'm super excited about when one of our dear friends, friend of the pod, has been on the pod before, Kelly Hartling told me about this, when I was like, yeah, I am yes, how quickly can we get this person on? So this is the first time Frances Naudé and I are meeting, but this, this is something I'm very excited to talk about. So Frances, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Frances Naudé 2:19  Yes. Hello. Thank you for having me. As you said, I am Frances. I am a Reiki Master, energy healer, a tarot card reader. I am the creator of the Four Noble tarot deck, and I am a spiritual channel and spiritual mentor. So essentially, my purpose, my sole purpose here, is to help people heal and align and live their most authentic and joyful lives, and I do that through energy healing, which also supports the physical body, as well as tarot card readings. And the way that I work with tarot is very much in the present moment, while you know, fortune telling may have its place for me, I believe in free will, and so I prefer to focus on empowering people, helping them understand their own intuition, what I call their spiritual team. So bringing in all the good beings that surround you all the time, and allowing allowing that messaging to come through and really up level your human form and your human life here that we chose to have. Lesley Logan 3:16  Okay, so excited about this, because okay, so there's this person that I am. I have bought tarot decks. I don't really know what I'm doing with them, but I they're so beautiful, and they're so pretty and, like, I have friends like, oh, I drew a card today. I'm like, yeah, I'll do that. I'm gonna draw a card. And then I'm like, what does this card mean? I don't know what it means. All I know is it's either right side up or it's upside down. And then I'm like, okay, Google, watch us mean, and then it gives you a meaning. And I'm like, I do with that, though. So can you tell us a little about, can we go into that? Because I think, like, first of all, for the people are like, this is a double woo, LL, like, I'm not really sure. I don't call it a double woo anymore. I actually think it's another way, to me, I've seen people use it as like, not therapy, but a way to meditate, or way to explore, a way to understand themselves, or to ask themselves a different question for the day. So that's why I don't think it's a double woo. But what are we supposed to do with tarot?Frances Naudé 4:13  Yeah, so tarot, it does. I mean, you can work with it so many different ways. There are thousands of decks out there, and like, my number one thing is, if you want to work with tarot, use a deck that you like, not the deck that someone told you to use. Because your intuition, whether you are like, really great at listening to it and you totally understand it, or whether you're like, I don't, I kind of know, but, you know, I have a gut feeling, but I don't really work with it every day, it's still working right. So you are going to be drawn to a deck, whether it's the artwork, the colors, the whatever. And so work with that deck. Now your deck hopefully comes with a guidebook, and so with that, as you mentioned, or like Google, like, yeah, if you're Googling, that's great, you know, because tarot does require some study. You know, tarot cards, each one, there's 78 and each one has this specific definition from deck to deck, guidebook to guidebook, they will change a little bit, but they should have that like basic core every card means the same thing. Now, with my deck and the guidebook that I wrote, slash channeled, and when I say channel, if anyone is new here, this does sound very woo, but it is what I now super duper with all of me trust to be 100% true, and all of us can do this if we want to. We were designed as humans to do this. It's just we've been programmed to not but channeling is receiving from energy, God, universe, spirit, whatever it is that you believe in. So I channeled that and wrote the guidebook. And for me, as you said, sometimes you read it and you're like, okay, so what do I do? This guidebook and as well as many out there, I'm not just saying like, oh, buy mine, you know, they should hopefully be actionable as well. So this is how you're feeling, and here's what you can do with it. But there is also a way to rely on your intuition, right? So it's like, you pull a card and you're like, I don't know what this means. Let me look it up. And then maybe the death or the guidebook that you have says, you know, this means that you are overwhelmed, and you're like, well, duh, I'm overwhelmed. Then that could be a moment for you to check in and be like, okay, well, what's overwhelming me? What can I do about that? And so that's why it's really great. If you're newer to tarot, you know, to study the guidebook that you're working with, and also work with other people who can, like read for you, because they can kind of even just getting a reading one time. They can show you how to, sort of like work with the information that you're given. But tarot, it's a tool that's ultimately the way that I use it, at least it's a tool to gain information about myself through my own intuition from, again, what I call spiritual teams. Or it's just, like, as much as I really believe in the sacred nature of it, it's really fun. You know, people hire me for events all the time, and like, well, like, I'm the party trick, you know, and it's like a fun thing to do, but I really do believe that it is so informative if you allow it to be, and it really can be whatever you want it to be, it's like meditation, right? If you want to meditate and have some really big, profound experience, that's what it's going to be for you. Or if you want to do a one minute visualization, that's what it's going to be for you. It doesn't really matter what you're doing, it's how it's serving you and how you're working with it, and what you're receiving from it.Lesley Logan 7:25  Yeah, because the way you're describing it, too, is it's almost like, instead of like, letting the card tell you how you're feeling or what you should be doing, it's a, it's a, it's asking you, ideally, to go within and explore. What does that mean, and where is this coming from, and what, what does it mean for me? So you, you're not going, oh, I have to follow this card, because that's what it says today. And instead, it's like to follow myself. And what is this card kind of asking me to focus on today, because there's so many different things we could focus on in the world at one given time. So, like, it's kind of giving you a thing to think about.Frances Naudé 7:57  Exactly and it's funny too. Like, if you get on, you know, like the tarot side of Instagram, or TikTok or whatever it is, there's these memes, and it'll be like, you know, even in comparison to oracle cards. So if anyone listening is like, well, wait, I have an Oracle Card Deck. What's the difference between Oracle and tarot? Okay, very briefly, tarot again, 78 cards. There's always going to be 78 cards, and every card should have a similar meaning between decks Oracle, fair game and typically, Oracle cards are also channeled by the author, but they're a little bit softer and lighter. Oracle cards are very actionable. That was actually my inspiration when writing my guidebook was like, exactly what you said, What do I do? So I wrote it similar to an Oracle Card guidebook rooted in tarot, so it was very actionable. But going back to the meme having that differentiation, the Oracle card, it'll be like, oh, I pulled an Oracle card today, and it's like, universe gave me a hug, and then it's like, oh, I pulled a tarot card today. It's like, universe slapped me in the face. Really, it is kind of like that, because Tarot never really tells you anything new, it just echoes what you already know and maybe what you're ignoring. A lot of times, when I do readings for people, you know they're like, I knew that. And I'm like, I know you did. You just needed a complete stranger who knows nothing about your life to tell you that you can trust yourself. And my favorite thing ever, as much as I love my clients, is when I don't see them for a while because I'm like, you're doing it. You are doing the thing, right? It's like, when you graduate from therapy and your therapist is like, you can come once every three months now, or whenever you feel like it, instead of weekly, like you've learned the tools. So it does provide information in terms of, like, if I ask, you know, what's the energy of the situation, or should I take this path or this path? Though spirit will never give you a clear answer. It's always going to be your choice, but they can kind of show you, like the energy of this decision A versus decision B, and then it's like, okay, so what do you want with that? Um, so ultimately, yeah, it's information, at least the way that I work with it. And again, there are many ways to work with it, but for me, it really is all about empowerment and helping people be able to, like, navigate their own inner world and inner wisdom and then apply that forward.Lesley Logan 10:14  Okay, so excited. Okay, so I guess two, two questions. And I hate when I do two at the same time, but I'm gonna do it. One, where did tarot come from? And two, how did you get into it? Because if you're so passionate about it. Like, clearly, like it, there's some, there's something there, so, but I do, like, you know, like, I know Joe Pilates created Pilates. Like, who is Mr. Taro, or Mrs. Taro, or they tarot. Like, where did it come from?Frances Naudé 10:38  Yes, okay, so many origin stories of tarot, but what I have learned, and what I teach to my students, is that tarot actually originated, oh, I can't say originated, but very early on, was used in the church. Tarot was also a game. So tarot cards, it was like the game Tarot. I have no idea how that game works. It is a game. And then people started receiving, like, the same information through the imagery, and then started using it. I don't love this word, but like the occult, if you've ever seen that, to me, that feels like, really, like heavy in a way, but that is the history of it. And then it was often adopted by the church. But what I understand from this is that people were playing tarot, using tarot, and when the printing press was invented, it became really widely spread, right? So in the tarot deck, there, this will make sense why I'm saying this in a second, in the tarot deck, there are five suits, so the first four we call the Minor Arcana. And those resemble a playing card deck, right? So diamonds, clubs, hearts and spades, we have swords, pentacles, cups and wands. Then we have the fifth suit, which is the Major Arcana. The Major Arcana are like names, so it's like The Moon, The Hermit, The Empress, like they are themes. And back in the day, many people would have artists, so wealthy people who could afford to hire an artist, would have like images drawn for their major suit, for their major death, right? But if you wanted a tarot deck, you had to commission it. You had to find an artist who could do the drive. So then come the printing press. We didn't have to do that anymore, right? So decks were more readily available, which means that this tool was more readily available. The Church didn't like that, because it was putting power in the hands of the people instead of going to whatever your religious leader was. And so they took it back and they demonized it, right? Like many organized religions, tarot is evil, tarot is paganism. Tarot is.Lesley Logan 12:51  Oh I was raised with that. It was terrible, terrible, yeah. Frances Naudé 12:51  Totally, when I do events, people look at me and like, some people are like, oh, I'm so excited. And some people are like, and they like, walk away.Lesley Logan 12:59  I'm going straight to hell. It's happening. Frances Naudé 13:03  Yeah, I'm like, I swear I'm normal, and this is fun. But so that is, like one of the, or two of the origins, well, I guess, like a one very convoluted world of tarot, um, and then over time, obviously, you know, people were still practicing it. It was just seen. It was, it was the church was successful, because if you had tarot cards, you were going against the church, right? So it became this, like, kind of dark thing. And then we had the original tarot deck, which is the Rider-Waite Tarot Deck. This is still widely available. Obviously, it's been like, modernized and the colors have popped, but I think it's like, like, you can get it on Amazon or bookstores or anything like that. And if anyone is looking for it, it's R-I-D-E-R dash W-A-I-T-E and I will say, if you are learning tarot to become you know, like a seasoned professional, I would recommend starting with that deck. The imagery in that deck is super, super, like every single little image represents something. So if you want to really, like deep dive into tarot study Rider-Waite and then you can start using whatever deck you want. But that's like the OG deck, okay? And then how I began working with tarot. Honestly, it's like, so I don't remember exactly, you know, it's kind of like, it's, it's foggy when you look back, because you pick something up and you're like, this is never gonna like, this isn't anything. This is just a fun thing. And then you're like, oh, this is my job now. But I started, so I started with energy work. Well, I started with, well, I started in corporate, then I was deeply unhappy. So I started taking night classes, and I got my health coach certification, and that was like, closer to the thing. Whatever the thing was, it was closer, but it wasn't quite it. Then I did my yoga teacher certification. I'd always been a dancer, and I was like, I love, you know, the body and all of that. I'm going to do yoga thinking it was more exercise. But then my favorite part of yoga teacher training was the philosophical side of it, and you're learning all the yogic principles and all of that, and that really led me down the path of energy. So then I started studying Reiki, and then from Reiki, I started studying tarot. And I was, like, such a dork. I like, printed out every single description, and like, studied and was highlighting and all of it. And now I'm, like, actually so grateful for my past self for doing that. Because now, if someone were like, you need to study the definitions of 78 tarot cards, I'd be like, there's just no, I don't have time for that. But at the time, it was like, I was like, eating it up, like anything that I could get. And then, yeah, I just started taking clients, not ever thinking it would be anything. And I was working multiple jobs at a time, and because I eventually left corporate, and then I was had a bunch of side gigs, and also doing, you know, Reiki and tarot. And then one day, I was like, oh, my God. Why am I so overwhelmed? Like, why am I so tired? I was like, oh, because you're doing, like, seven things and I was so blessed that I was able to finally build up my clientele where I could let those other pieces go. And it was such a dream come true. I couldn't believe that this was like my full time gig after many, many, many years, but it was, yeah.Lesley Logan 16:13  I love I love that it was a nonlinear way for you. Because I do think everyone has to hear that, whether you're into the tarot part of the story or not. Like, just knowing that we all end up somewhere where we think it's supposed to be because of what we were told, which, you know, as you start to the more you start to hear stories of what like we're told is going to make us happy. And then then you hear, like, just the things that, like, some things were available, and then someone decided that they're not available anymore. And like, you know, like you start to realize, like, oh, it's not bad that you started in corporate, because it led you to where you are, and it allows you to recognize people, and also some people will always be in corporate, and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with it. But like, no one's journey to figuring out what they want to be and what they're really called to do is linear. It happens to be like, oh, what's down this door? Oh, I really am interested in that. Hold on, what's this over here? And I just think that that's so fascinating. Okay, so I love that you said, like, if I started to pick up trying to learn 78 decks, 78 cards, right now, I probably wouldn't. I'm like, right here going, how long would it take me to learn 70? Because it's actually quite funny, because I teach Pilates teachers every year I work with Pilates teachers who already be teaching, but I'll teach them over 500 exercises every year, right and, and I don't think I quite understood, like, what I was embarking on when I became a Pilates instructor. And I think today, like, wow, could I learn 500 right now? Like, learn them the way I learned them? But if somebody does want to pick this up as a hobby or just something that they're like, wanting to explore more. Obviously, you gave us that original deck that could be a great one. And also, like what your intuition is like, you know what you like, but what do you do? Do you draw one a day? Do you do it when you meditate? Do you do it when you need it? Like, how do you use it? Frances Naudé 17:54  Yeah, so for someone who wants, like, daily use for themselves, I would say, just do it when you feel called. I love pulling a card a day. It's a great way to get acquainted with the deck. You can read from the guidebook. You can Google like you're learning as you go, right? Because that that's the whole point. And even if you don't memorize it, that's okay, you're still receiving the information. So I think one a day is awesome if you have a meditation practice or you want to create one, you can add that in so like pull a card, see what it says. Meditate for five minutes, what's coming through for you? You know what? What did you receive from that 10 minute practice? That's what I love about tarot is especially for people who have limited time, whether you have kids or you have a demanding job, or you struggle to focus for a while, or whatever it is, it's so tangible that you can actually, like, take it in these bite sized pieces, and then maybe one day, you're like, I want to pull three cards, or I want to pull 10 cards. So that's option one is kind of just pulling to see what comes through. The other is, if you're in an area where or a time in life, we're like, I need guidance, like, I need some info. I need some some clarity. That's a great time to pull tarot, right? And you can literally ask the cards your question. Now I hesitate with yes no's, so reframing your questions is important. So for example, let's say it's like, should I take this job? Yes or no? maybe I would change it to, what is the energy of taking this job, pull a card. What is the energy of rejecting this job? Pull a card, and you can see energetically which one is lighter. If you get two cards that are light, that's universe being like both both options are a great choice for you, and it's just gonna lead down a different path. You know, that's something I've learned in this work, is if you are being presented with options, there's no right or wrong choice, there's just different paths. And so this is about really like listening to what path you want, right? Maybe, like, option one, the card that you get is, like, you know, I don't know, very warm, like the Sun card, right? That's warmth, that's growth. It's, you know, it feel, it feels like summer, so there's a lot of energy in it that. But maybe, and then maybe the other card is a little bit more money focused, right? Like, 10 of pentacles, that's money, that's family, right? So you're like, oh, I can have abundance and a family. I want that. But then if you're someone who's like, I want to be a CEO, maybe you run down, you go down that Sun path, right? So it's, it's highlighting options for you. So I think number one, to answer your question, it's, yeah, a daily practice pulling a card. That's great. You'll learn as you go. Number two, ask them questions. If you have them, one of my favorite questions, which is still very broad, and this is always how I start my personal readings for myself, is, what do I need to know right now? Like, what do you what do you want to tell me right now? What do I need to know right now? If I have specific questions, I'll ask them. But usually the what do I need to know right now is pretty like they will point out your stressors, or, you know, where you're feeling lack of clarity, or whatever it may be. And then I think for people who want to, like, really dive in, there just is no other way but to study like you just you got to study, and you have to practice, practice with yourself. But the best way to learn to read tarot cards is to actually practice on other people, because that pressure of like, oh my god, someone's waiting for me to tell them something. It's forcing you to get out of your own way. It's forcing you to shut that brain off and just dive in. I imagine it's like teaching your first Pilates class where you're standing out there and you're like, oh my god, oh my god. There are all of these people staring at me, waiting for me to tell them what to do like I just got to go that's similar with tarot. And once you do like those first five to 10, you learn to trust yourself, and then it makes reading cards for yourself a lot easier. I always like to tell people reading cards for yourself in the beginning is way harder than reading for other people. So if you really want to start like developing this practice, do it for other people and trust yourself. And then final piece, final tip for if you're learning cards, is find a deck whose imagery speaks to you because the imagery is informative of the message. So I'll show you an example, or I'll give an example here. Let's say, okay, this card, I'll describe it. This is 10 of swords. Okay, so it's this woman sitting on a tombstone. I know it sounds really intense, but there's ivy growing all over it. There's the 10 swords, which is representative, you know, of of the of the card. And then there's a moon there. And this card is all about completion, right? This is about ending of cycles. This is about death, right? And not physical death, but, you know, the death of something. And so if I were brand new to tarot and I looked at this card, I would probably be like, oh, okay, that's a tombstone. So she's alive, though something changed. She's like, you know, I would get something from this. So that's a really beautiful way to learn with tarot, is like, reading from the imagery itself, and then, like, really trusting yourself. That was a lot of insight, sorry.Lesley Logan 23:13  Frances, you're, it's so fun because, like, it's all the questions, like you're answering questions I didn't even know I had, but also the overarching theme I'm getting from all of this, and I think that, like, it's so funny, I kind of feel like I was, like, part of my life was stolen from me by being told that tarot was, like, paganism is that like, it continues to ask you to trust what's coming up for you? Like, even, you know, like, even if you're reading for a friend, you're asking them the question. It's like, you know, like it's, you're looking at the card, but you're asking them the question, like, oh, something's coming to a completion. Like, it's not, it's, it's not someone else telling you something, it's asking to go within. And I think, like in today's world, with everything that's going on, there's so many things asking us to focus on all this other stuff that we're not, very few people are focusing on themselves and how they actually feel and what their energy is. And so having a practice, even if it's once a week or once a day, to like, go, what is this telling me right now? Oh, this is about overwhelm, or this is about abundance. Oh, I do have a lot in my life right now, like just having that moment to check in and with ourselves, like some of us need that physical thing to do that.Frances Naudé 24:25  Yeah, 100% that's that's what I do. Like again, when I don't see clients, I'm like, oh my god, I miss them, but I'm so happy because that means that they've been able to trust themselves intuition or gut feelings or inner wisdom, whatever it is that you want to call it for yourself, it is so silenced by noise. And so social media, TV, like, how many as we wake up, we roll over. Instagram, yeah, we wake up, we roll over, put on the news. We wake up like, you know, we just like, get in this cycle. And so, as you said, yeah, this. 510, minutes. Sometimes you don't even need to pull the card. It's literally just the sitting down. It's like, oh, I've given myself this 5, 10, 20, 30 minutes of space. Like, what's coming up in here? And it is, and it's, it's, but this is the thing, because you said this, and I'm going to highlight it, it's listening. But the key point is trusting and learning how to trust your intuition is, in my opinion, like the secret sauce to life, because if we, it sends us down some wild path sometimes, like the scariest ones, the riskiest ones, but it's always the ones who, where you're like, yeah, this is it. And it lights you up. And even going back to, like, what you said with, you know, like, if I were to go back and teach five or learn 500 things, like, think about yourself at that time, me too. Like, learning the tarot, it's like, oh my god. Like I was so jazzed to learn that, like, I couldn't wait to, and now it's become a part of you. So there's that integration, but that lighting up like, that is your intuition talking, even though it's probably a little scary too, it's like, that is, it's never gonna steer you down the wrong path. Lesley Logan 26:15  Yeah. But also, like, how, like, you just said, like, it's trusting your intuition. Like, by the way, if, you're unstoppable, if you can trust yourself. And that's like, now, like, I have so many different thoughts and like about like, of course, people don't want us doing that. They because then we don't listen to them. We don't listen to what they think that we should be buying or or believing or doing, you know, because otherwise you are, you're following someone else's path versus the one that's your own. Oh, this is deep, okay, I do want to ask you this. It's been on my heart this whole show, because it's like, it's be it till you see it. And part of that is like acting like the person that you want to be and becoming that person, all that stuff. But along the way, there are some certain people's paths of being until you see it, that could get some interesting eyes. I cannot imagine that you would tell people at a family reunion, I'm becoming a tarot reader, and people don't go, what? Like was it, was your family like, yeah, you do you, babe. Or were people like, are you okay? Are you sure? Like.Frances Naudé 27:17  Yeah. So, oh, the things I've had said to me or about me, those are the funniest ones where I'm like, okay, I had friends parents call them, like, is Frances, okay? You know? Because, like, sometimes I would channel live on Instagram, and people would be like, like, has she gone off the deep end? Like, are we good here? I've had a lot of people. The ones that hurt me the most were actually friends, or like people in our friend group, I say, I mean, my husband, it was mostly his friends. So I shouldn't care, because as much as I love anyone of any gender or or no gender, I really don't care what a 25 year old dude thinks about me, but it still hurt. And what it showed me was like, I guess, like my own fears and like my own (, because I had a lot of those specific people be like, honestly, telling me I was ripping people off, like having people pay money for a placebo effect and like that just like, broke my heart because I was like, I, this is life changing. Like, this helps people. And fine, you don't have to be the person that it helps. I'm not going to ever force anyone, but don't, like, bash it till you've tried it, essentially. So those ones really hurt. The Frances, you're crazy. I would just kind of laugh along and be like, yeah, for sure. You know, like, my first disclaimer when I tell people what I do is, I promise I'm normal. Because you tell somebody you're a tarot card reader or you're a Reiki healer and you work within people's energy, they're like, that's not a thing. And I'm like, I understand that it's hard to understand, but it is. But my family, specifically, you know, my mom was always super supportive. She went on a very long, like, religious and spiritual journey throughout her whole life. She and I are pretty aligned on our beliefs. I wasn't raised with this, but it's funny. In retrospect, I look back and I actually think my grandmother, she never really talked about it, but she always had crystals, and was, like, really educated, and love reading books about philosophy and the brain, and so I think now I wish, and I have a great relationship with her, you know, on the other side, and it's, it's lovely, but I do sometimes wish that I could be an adult with her still outside, so I could, like, have these conversations with her. I'm sure some of them would be like, Frances, no, and then some of them would be really interesting. My dad was the funniest one because he he never was not supportive for him. It was more, am I going to be okay financially, like, business-wise, right? Like, am I am I okay? But now he'll kind of ask me questions about little things, or if he has, like, a minor injury or something he'd like, can you give Reiki, and then he'll, like, go tell all of his friends that his knee feels better or something. And, you know, it's and like, even my husband, he's funny too, with it. Like, I know they kind of believe it. They just don't, I know they believe it. They just don't want to admit they believe it. But like, before, when he was still growing in his career, anytime he had an interview or something, he'd be like, can you can you give me Reiki like the night before? And so I know that they feel it and they receive from it, or with tarot, even, like I read my husband's cards every once in a while, or even, you know, it's funny, my tarot cards have told me twice that I was pregnant and they were right both times, you know. So even for our family, and family planning like that has been really cool. So I think the more people receive from it themselves, the more that they understand it. But I definitely get a lot of looks and a lot of words, and I've learned to let it roll off, but it's part of it's part of it. When you do something different. I'm sure you've experienced that, too. Lesley Logan 30:59  Oh, I mean, 100% and I think, like, the interesting thing about what you said is, like, the things that sting are the things that you kind of have a worry of, like, are people going to think this, right? And of course, then that's the criticism that you hear the loudest, even if it was from the people who are the quietest voices in your life. Like, if they were to say, you have nice hair, you probably wouldn't even remember, like, it'd be, you know what I mean, if it was a compliment, because it's like, oh, okay, that's, you know, like, it's not like that you don't listen to them, but they don't act. Their opinion doesn't really mean anything. But when they say the thing that you are like, internally worried that people would think about you, that's where we can get hung up. But it also sounds like, you know, in being it till we see it, and whatever our dream is when we do something that is outside of society's norms of what our career should be, you kind of just have to believe in yourself and like, trust that as people see the results of it, whether it's in what people you're doing with other people or themselves, that they kind of buy in. And you have to, you can't wait for them to you have to do it. You have to keep going and showing them this is what it is, and believing in yourself to make it happen. Yes, no, I have a as a Pilates instructor. I do travel the world, which doesn't make sense, because people literally on a plane, they're like, What are you doing? Like, oh, I'm gonna go to Poland for the weekend. And they're like, to do what? Like, I have to teach. And they're like, teach about like, it's just not gonna make any sense. I'm gonna teach Pilates. And they're like, don't they have Pilates in Poland, I'm like, correct, which is why I'm yes, I I don't know how to explain to you that I have this weird role in the industry, because it doesn't make sense to people, but also, like, it's why we do what we do. It's not because it's weird, but it's because we're so called to do it, and people want to be around that. And so it's just really cool. Thank you for sharing all the different parts of that story, because I do think it can be hard to change the career, to do the thing like, to go from the stable corporate job to like, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna change people's energies for a living. Like that can make people go, oh, okay. Are you okay? Are you okay? But we have to, we have to be okay with it is the ultimate thing, because other you can't otherwise, you're not going to make it. You know, I firmly believe that, like neither one of us would be here if we had actually waited for other people to deem us sane. It's a good idea. Frances Naudé 33:15  100% and it's one of those things too. I mean, even going back to everything, you say, be it till you see it, see it. It's like, it's not that you're in the beginning, especially and even now. Like, there's times I'm like, what am I what am I doing? Like, what do I do? Like, what am I doing? Okay, I guess I'm doing like, it's it has been almost a decade, but it's like, it's not that you have the confidence, it's that you trust so deeply that what you're doing is what you're supposed to be doing, that you do it scared anyways, and that builds the confidence, right? It's like, okay, well, yes, that was a good class, or that was a good day, or that was an amazing session, or this person told me for the first time, or they told me that this was the first time they've ever felt seen or understood by anyone. And I'm like, the first time in your sometimes, what, 72 years like, I work with people of all ages that you felt seen like that? It's not for me. It's like, wait, I think I'm I think I'm helping people. I think maybe I can do this. And it's not that I, you know, you go into that that session being like, yes, I'm fantastic. You know, you hope that you you gain that confidence along the way, but it really is about like doing it scared because everyone is gonna problem. Most people will tell you not to, and even the people that are encouraging. You can feel their doubt. You know, you can feel that they're like, I hope this works for you, not you got this. You can do this. So it's like, you have to be that for yourself, right? And I remember too for me, I was like, well, this is either going to happen or it's not. But it's either going to not today, or it's going to not ever, and it is going to happen at some point, but those are the only two options. So I'm either going to choose that it's not or I'm going to keep walking this path, hoping and encouraging myself and showing up for myself and these people and making it happen. And if universe comes in the way and stops me and I fall on my butt. Okay. It wasn't supposed to happen, but I would rather it's kind of like I better to have loved and lost than never to have lost at all and then never to have loved at all. Yeah, right, like I'm rather going to go down this path. Then maybe the reason I not do it because I listen to all of these people and all of these old stories and everything else, like, makes no sense. And this is also what I've learned through channeling. God is literally begging you to just listen to yourself, to just do the thing that's like one of the main sole reasons that are that we choose to, if you believe in this, that you choose to incarnate in human form, is to get to do stuff, spirit, doesn't we I mean, I'm sure it does. I know that it does things, but it doesn't have this vessel. We don't get to be on this amazing, beautiful planet, connecting with other people like we chose to be here, and that was always a driving factor to me, is, like you chose to be here, what are you going to do with this life? Are you really going to waste it doing something that you didn't want to do, you know. Lesley Logan 36:24  And like, you just, what it brought up for me is, like, better to have loved than than and lost and never have loved at all. Better to go down the path. And why do we consider it a failure, right? Unless, instead of like, oh, it actually led you to this. Like, if you hadn't gone to corporate, you wouldn't have been interested in health coaching, because you're like, I hate this. And then with health coaching, you're like, oh, I really like this yoga. And I didn't hear you once say, well, I failed as a yogi, but I really like the philosophy. I didn't hear that at all. I heard you say that led me to this, and this led me to this. And I think it's a way of us reframing, like, what is failure as a instead of like, what is it actually guiding us towards? Everything we do, everything we learn from it, is guiding us to the next thing, and it's giving us the knowledge we need to do whatever we're supposed to be doing, you know, like, so, I mean, I just think that that's just a takeaway from your story is, like, really, truly, how can we, how can we actually just reframe that everything is just part of the path. It's all part of the journey. Frances Naudé 37:16  Stepping stones, and even using that, like, applying that forward, like, if you look back at your life, you like, if people are in a state of feeling stuck or lost or confused, it's like, okay, well, what can I learn like if I look backwards, what are the things like okay this led me to. This led me to. This led me to this. Was I operating from a place of excitement, or was I operating from a place of fear or escapism, trying to get out of something, right? And so it's like, I work with so many people who have regret, and they're like, why didn't I do this? Or I feel so lost, or I don't know. It's like, let's not, you know, bash yourself for any past decisions. Let's learn from them. Exactly as you said, it's like, I literally see it in my mind's eye as stairs like you want to stay on this stair. This isn't the destination. It's up there. So we have to go, and it's going to be hard and we're going to get tired, but, like, really using it as a tool to learn from whatever it is that you've experienced.Lesley Logan 38:14  Yeah, oh my god, this conversation has been so fun. I'm just so grateful that we connected. Like, I've I really have wanted to, like, have this as a topic and as more personal, but also, like, I feel like, even though the the topic is tarot, the true actual thing is, like trusting yourself, just like just trusting yourself. And if we can do that, we can, we can be it till we see it on anything. Frances, I could talk to you forever but I want to take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you, and work with you. Lesley Logan 38:42  Okay, Frances, where do you hang out? Where can we send people? They're ready to nerd out. They want, they want to understand how to trust themselves. Where they where can they go? Frances Naudé 38:52  So I'm on Instagram and Tiktok and YouTube and all the places it's @FrancesNaude, F-R-A-N-C-E-S-N-A-U-D-E and francesnaude.com is my website. I do sessions for people all over the world remotely, and I also have a small studio space in Orange County, California. So if you are nearby, hit me up and we can meet in person. But yeah, in the in the online space, I do free tarot card readings every Monday on YouTube and share all kinds of stuff on Instagram and trying to get on TikTok. But I'm not gonna lie, I am definitely a millennial, so.Lesley Logan 39:30  I see you. I feel you. The girl I just interviewed before this. She's like, I post on there, but don't DM or comment. I won't respond. And I was like, yeah, my team keeps threatening to do it. And I was like, I just can't, like, there's just I can't do it. YouTube and Instagram are enough, and maybe one is a dying breed, and it's I'm okay, but my people are there because they don't want to do it. You know, so I feel you, millennials unite. Okay. You've given us so much already, but bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Frances Naudé 40:00  As mentioned, learn how to hear and trust your intuition that is going to be that is going to lead you down the best path in any way, if you're in a challenging situation, if you are feeling inspired do that. And so may I give a brief practice for how to do that, because. Lesley Logan 40:02  I would love one, because there are perfectionists listening and they would like the step by step plan, please.Frances Naudé 40:25  Okay, amazing, amazing, amazing. So, yeah, someone telling you, trust your intuition is like someone saying, just be positive, right? It Like It's, it's a great piece of guidance. But how do we do that? So my practice is choose something that you do every single day that's a decision. Okay? So whether it is picking out like, let's say you love a certain flavor of tea, and every morning you like to make your tea, you're going to pick your tea bag, right? They're all the same. What tea bag? What is the tea bag that you're choosing? And then pause once you grabbed it and check in with your body. What does that feel like in your body? You can do this at the grocery store, right? You need, I don't know, five oranges and there's 100 in front of you, right? Which are the five that you're picking? Logic is going to come in a little bit. Maybe that one, the skin is broken, or that one's dirty, or whatever. But between 10 perfect oranges and you're only buying five, when you grab the orange that feels right to you, stop for a second. What does that feel like in your body? What does that feel like in your energy? What does that feel like in your head? Start to practice. I actually practice this with my underwear when I'm choosing my underwear every day, because I know that it's something that I'm going to be doing every single day. What is the underwear? And it's so funny, sometimes I'll touch this black pair and it's not the right one. And so I touch the other black pair. I'm like, yeah, this is the one. There is no I'm like, fathomable reason why the underwear is the right underwear. They're the exact same. But that is my daily practice, because then, when it comes to big decisions, you've already built that muscle. You already know how to use it. You already know how to trust it. Your intuition often will not make logical sense and it will not be loud. People always expect these really big like moments or like the clouds part and the sun shines through. Intuition is really quiet. So step three is, or item number three with that is, it's going to be quiet, but now it's, we have to make space for it. That is the piece to be able to hear it, right? It's, it's so important. So even going back to tarot or meditation or walking outside, or whatever it is, you have to make space to hear your intuition, because, again, building that muscle. When things are loud, you want to already have it built right? It's kind of like. Lesley Logan 42:55  Yeah, I hear you. It's just like it when, when there's so much noise around you, if you aren't attuned to that quiet voice, you're not going to hear it. You have to like, yeah, yeah. That makes so much sense to me. And you are correct. I can think of two times three actually. Now I think three times my life where I heard that intuition, and it is so, so quiet, so quiet. And if you aren't you might could miss it. You can go, what is that? You know?Frances Naudé 43:23  And it also feels, I also like to tell people, your intuition often feels like a thought, but how to be able to differentiate it is, you'll be like, either, yes, it'll be very quiet, or you'll be like, where did that come from? Like, why was I thinking that, right? Oh, and I was saying, like, intuition often leads you down the scary path. Yeah, you know that that the because, it has to. It's expanding that comfort zone. It's getting that wider. It's also going to challenge your beliefs, your old stories that were probably not even written by you, and your fears, right? It's expanding you wider. It's getting you out of that comfort zone. And so as you are learning to work with your intuition, I also encourage you to learn you can choose the word that fits for you. I call it your highest self, but this could be your true self. This could be your soul self, whatever the word is for you, the place that exists without ego. And when I say ego, I mean the human brain, so fears, worries, anxieties, etc. And without we talked about this a lot, without the other, so, other people's stories, other people's fears. A lot of us have other people's fears, specifically our family members, going back, sometimes generations. We don't even know we have them. I work a lot with this in Reiki, where they're not ours. It doesn't even apply to us in our in our situation, but we've been conditioned so making sure that you know who that highest self is, that soul self is. I am Frances, and I, you know we're talking in present tense so I live an intuitively aligned life, which means I let joy lead I do not let fear get in my way, and I live in unity with all that's around me, right? And so if I can identify those three pillars to what my soul self is, every decision I make should be aligned with those three things, and then combine it with that intuitive strength, you're just walking that aligned path like no matter what, it's going to be scary, there's going to be challenges. We're still human. But that is truly like, what I've learned through my personal practice, through working with other people, is that key. So, if nothing else, learn how, like, start developing that intuitive muscle, because it is imperative for daily decisions, and also those, those big ones when they come.Lesley Logan 45:52  Yeah, oh gosh, so good. You're so good. Frances, thank you so much. I can not only imagine, like, how many people down the road are like, thank God I heard that, because I can now say that you trust yourself, and I think that's one of the biggest gifts we can give people today. So thank you for being here and sharing all this with us. Guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Make sure you tag Frances. Tag the Be It Pod, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. I want to know. I definitely want to know what your takeaways are I'm just so grateful for this connection and you guys until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 46:22  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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In this Fuck Yeah Friday episode, Lesley Logan explores why celebrating what you did do—especially when life feels heavy—matters more than chasing the next milestone. Drawing from Your Big Leap Year by Gay Hendricks, listener-submitted wins, and her own experience choosing rest after a demanding tour, she explains how celebration creates dopamine, counters self-criticism, and reinforces autonomy. This episode is a reminder that progress is still progress, even when it looks quiet, slow, or deeply personal.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why celebrating actions strengthens motivation and emotional resilience.Why getting out of bed counts as a real win during difficult life seasons.How celebrating wins disrupts control and people-pleasing patterns.Using preparation and support systems to create space for rest.Letting go of “shoulds” and allowing yourself to celebrate effort.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsBook: Your Big Leap Year by Gay Hendricks – https://a.co/d/cw76HcrEpisode 400: Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/ep400Pilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournal If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Happy FYF, oh my gosh, whoa, second one of the new year, I promise I won't count these every because I'll just all forget at some point, I promise. Thank goodness we don't do a perfect run here. It is the Fuck Yeah Friday episode. We are sharing wins of each other's and celebrating that, like, not like some wins, or just that we got to the week right, a little mantra, and something that was inspiring. So it usually what inspires me on the internet, but I've been I figured I'd start the year with, like, things that inspire me, that are in my life, daily with you. So last week I shared something out of a book that I read every day, and this week I'm sharing out of another book that I read every day, and this book is Gay Hendricks' Your Big Leap Year, Your Big Leap Year. And he was episode 400. I love that we had him as episode 400, team, because it's easy for me to remember which number he was. Oh my gosh, that's 227 episodes ago, but it feels like it was just yesterday. That's an episode you have to go back and listen to. Lesley Logan 1:43  Okay, so, on page 202, of his book, he writes the word celebrate comes from the Latin verb celebrar, which has a number of ancient meanings. To celebrate something is to honor it and to sing the praises of it, whatever the meaning of the words, the actual experience of celebration is what really juices up our experience of living. So your big leap for today. That's why I love this, because it's like, okay, you learn something now you get to go take some action on it, pause several times a day to consciously celebrate what you've created in your life. Each dedicate each time, dedicate a full 10 to 15 seconds to celebrate, to full celebration, which inspired by the dancing nuns who found the mushrooms may include dancing. Oh, that reference is something I wasn't going to read to but I'm gonna read to you now. Okay, so mataki mushrooms are known in Japan as the dancing mushroom. According to a Japanese legend, a group of Buddhist nuns and wood cutters met on a mountain trail where they discovered a fruiting of mataki mushrooms emerging from the forest floor, rejoicing that they discovered the delicious mushroom, they danced to celebrate, and that is from the American mycologist and author, Paul Stamets. So that's probably why the nuns were dancing right 10 to 15 seconds of full celebration. So we talk about FYFs every week, because I do know that when we celebrate something that we did do, we are creating some dopamine in the brain. It makes it easier for us to notice that good things are happening. And it really does take a moment to get us out of like, the cynical nature of what the world, the world wants you cynical, down, depressed and like, why does it matter? Why does it matter? Because if you are being it till you see it each and every week, you won't take their shit, you won't, you won't do it, you won't let people push you around. You won't be a people pleaser anymore, and then they can't control you. Okay? So that is why celebrating what you did do is so freaking important to me for you, because I you are not moldable and controllable that way, right? You're not. You're your own person, and you will inspire so many people. You will inspire so many people. So now we got to celebrate your win. So got a couple for you from you, and they are meganjoyilates, she said, of Australia, I did a magic circle class with my friend Mez. Megan, I know at the time that you sent this in, you're going through a massive life situation, and I am just so freaking thrilled that you sent this in and that you got to do that, but for yourself, but also that, like your proof, we've been we've known each other for years, that like even when shit is going on in your life, you can take time to celebrate something that you did do. And I just love that about you. Creative_soul_Pilates wrote, I got out of bed. Boom, boom. There you have it. I'm telling you guys, sometimes it is like we put so much pressure on ourselves, but like some of you, are going through some crazy things in life. You lost someone in your family. You lost a job like, there's so much unknown, and if you got your you got out of bed, dressed and showered like, that is huge. We had a person in agency who lost, you know, two people really quickly in their lives, back to back and and, you know, and I and she'd ask about, like, still hitting her goals. And I was like, oh my gosh, you got out of bed. Like you took a shower today. Like, those are, you know, huge things. We are human beings living in an experience. And it's hard. It's really hard. So I love that you celebrated that. And I think some some other people, that might be the win for today as well. So my win. We are currently on our way. We're back in the car. We were home for two nights I think, and we're on our way to Los Angeles, and we are picking up some rugs that my publicist gave us when she had a massive win in her life and she was moving, and she was like, I don't want these. Do you want these? I'm like, I do want those. And so we're grabbing these rugs, and then we're going to drive down to Huntington Beach and teach at the Pilates Journal Expo. I'm really excited about that. But my, my win is I came home and did a day of just pure like, self-care, self-love. There's a million things I could do. I have, like, I haven't been in my business the way that I normally am for a month, and there are so many things I could say, I could do this, I could do this, I could do this. But the reality is, the win is that my team and I prepped me so well that I could actually be in my business a little bit so that I could just be present, teaching on this tour. So the tour wrapped. I mean, that's a win, but I've been celebrating like that, like the completion of a culmination of something like there were so many wins along the way. So yay, the tour wrapped. And it was so much fun, it was so much fun. I can't wait to tell you guys more about it. But the win is for today is that, like I did not should all over myself about all the things I should do around the house, and I should do this, and I should do that, and you know what I did? I got up, I did Pilates, I did yoga, got my hair done, and I got my nails done, and I went to the gym. I mean, badass. That was my yesterday. That is my win. I did not go, oh, I need, I should do laundry, and I should do this, and I should make, you know, there's so people to water my plants. There's all I paid people to take care of things, and I let them take care of the things. And I am so proud of myself for doing that, and I'm so proud of just like letting myself have a day because my team and I did a great thing, and you got to take time to rest and enjoy it. I'll tell you more about what I'm doing to rest and enjoy the work that we did next week. So stay tuned. Lesley Logan 7:18  Before I let you go, we actually have an affirmation for you. So let's pull it up. I celebrate the good qualities in others and myself. I celebrate the good qualities in others and myself. I celebrate the good qualities in others and myself and my goodness, my love, I hope you really emphasize the myself. You have a lot of good qualities. You have so many. I hope you take the time to reflect on what those are today. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it, maybe send it to them and say, here are the good qualities that you have in you that I've often don't tell you about, but here they are. It really does make people feel really good about themselves. You get random messages like that. You're amazing. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 7:57  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 8:39  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 8:44  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 8:49  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 8:56  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 8:59  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this interview recap, Lesley and Brad explore June Suepunpuck's insights on joy, identity, and the courage it takes to pause and reassess the life you're living. They reflect on career versus calling, destination addiction, and the role grief plays in meaningful transformation. This episode is a reminder that sustainable joy grows from self-awareness—and the willingness to be honest with yourself.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Understanding the why behind the dream and its impact on fulfillment.The difference between building a career and honoring a calling.Why addressing grief is a necessary part of finding real joy.How to identify one good thing about today even when you're struggling.How to actively question whether the life you are living brings you joy.Episode References/Links:Pilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsPOT in London - https://xxll.co/potHow To Find Joy Podcast - https://howtofindjoy.buzzsprout.comJune Suepunpuck's Website - https://www.joyguidejune.comSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsOnline Pilates Classes on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClassesEpisode 559: David Corbin - https://beitpod.com/ep559 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  You learn from what you did, and you do better the next time. And we have to allow for that, and we can't be so afraid of people who could take advantage on either side that we don't do anything at all. Lesley Logan 0:11  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:50  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the delightful convo I had with June Suepunpuck in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now go back and listen to that one. Brad was obsessed with it. He interrupted my work three times a day to tell me how much he appreciated it. So you should go listen to it and then come back and join us, or keep listening and then go listen to that one. Lesley Logan 1:15  Today is January 8th 2026, and it's War on Poverty Day. Brad Crowell 1:20  War on Poverty Day. Lesley Logan 1:21  Okay, ready for it. Annually, on January 8th, we reflect on the impact of the legislation first introduced in 1964 by President Lyndon B. Johnson that collectively expanded economic opportunity through anti poverty, health, education, employment policies. I mean, we can't cosign on this more, I think. Lyndon B. Johnson's War on Poverty was primarily established by the Economic Opportunity Act of 1964.Brad Crowell 1:46  This is a this is a bit nerdy here, but there's a reason to give a little (inaudible). So the EOA.Lesley Logan 1:51  We're gonna rant in a second with some of you like that. But we got to get you on the same page with us. So created the Office of the EO,Brad Crowell 1:59  the Office of Economic Opportunity. So the EOA was the Act created the OEO. So the Office of Economic Opportunity. Lesley Logan 2:07  I guess I thought it was in a office of, like, OEC, but anyways, I don't know what I'm talking about. So I could never work in government, because I get confused with the letters real quick. So Office of Economic Opportunity, OEO, that's like a song, oh, e, o, oh. Anyways, to oversee new programs, I did not take my focus meds today. Key initiatives include the job corpse head. Key initiatives included the Job Corps, Head Start and community action programs, along with funding for vocational training, college work study and local development. Subsequent legislation and programs expanded on this foundation, including the permanent Food Stamp Act of 1964 and the passage of Medicare and Medicaid in 1965.Brad Crowell 2:31  Yeah, so it's possible that you might have heard of the Job Corps. You probably heard of Head Start. You may or may not have heard of community action programs, but you've definitely heard of food stamps, and you've definitely heard of Medicare and Medicaid, right? So all of these came out of LBJ's, War on Poverty program, which included the Economic Opportunity Act of 1964 and.Lesley Logan 3:08  And if you have, if you're not, if you never had experienced like food stamps or Medicare or Medicaid, right? Medicaid is for the babies and Medicare is when you're older, if I'm correct, if you haven't ever had experienced that it might be really easy to not know how people are served by that, how much they're served by it, like, how do they get that? And so if you have any reasons to go, I can't believe they're paying this much on food stamps, I highly educate would educate yourself on how hard people have to work to get these things.Brad Crowell 3:33  Well, we're talking about, we're talking about poverty here. Right? And so, you know, the reality is that it's a it's, it's actually really, really challenging to get out of poverty. Right, 10% of our country currently 11, it's moving up to like 11% or something, is in the place where we would consider them in poverty.Lesley Logan 3:51  Yeah. And if you want to know what that is, I think the US government considers you in poverty if you make under $20,000 as an individual, which, by the way, is $0 like that. How I don't even know where you're living, that you can afford the food at the grocery store and gas and any part of life. So you know, if you are in that place, a lot of people are working full time jobs ending poverty. Brad Crowell 4:15  For a family of four in in the United States in 2025 the Federal Poverty Level is an annual income of $32,150 or less. Lesley Logan 4:24  How do you feed how do you feed four mouths on that amount of money? Brad Crowell 4:24  For the whole year. Lesley Logan 4:24  Yeah, I don't even understand that. Brad Crowell 4:24  Like that's enough for the food. What about. Lesley Logan 4:24  Well. And then we, and then there's these people have the nerve to tell those people, well, they should just eat healthier. How are you affording lettuce and eggs on that amount of money? And then also. Brad Crowell 4:40  You're able to afford a fast food meal because it's $1. Lesley Logan 4:43  Because it's $1. Brad Crowell 4:44  And that's why it's crap.Lesley Logan 4:45  Yeah, so let me just finish our notes, and then we can (inaudible). One definition of poverty is not have enough resources for your basic needs, and it's a huge impact on people's lives in society. It's a huge impact on society. People think all the time like, oh, I don't want to pay for immigrants to have health care. Well, you don't, but you certainly pay when they go to county, when you go to them, they go the hospital, you pay. So, like, we have, we, I actually don't think a country can be rich if you have all.Brad Crowell 5:09  Let's just make a distinction there. We're not paying for, we're not paying for immigrants to have health care, in the sense of, like, are they on insurance going to the doctor. If they go to the emergency room, yes, right, if they go to jail, yeah, we're paying for that, too. Lesley Logan 5:25  And by the way, if you were traveling a different country that happens to have healthcare for all of their people, you also don't pay like my friend, yeah, as a visitor, my friend had an emergency surgery. They fell in the Netherlands in a race, and they did this crazy surgery that would have costed her so much money, no bill. Anyways, that's another day, another day's holiday. So recent studies show that suggests that the poorest states have a poverty rate of up to 18%. I think we can guess what states those are. Poverty can happen to anyone. This is very important. Poverty can happen to anyone, whether it's students who rely on scholarships to claim their right to education, seniors struggling with rising health care costs, or large families struggling to get food on the table. Poverty is a problem that over 40 million Americans are fighting against on a daily basis, and we'll just say as of 2024 we were down to 10.6% from 19% of our country beneath the poverty line in 1964.Brad Crowell 6:18  Yeah, so in 1964 so effectively, like, if you go back and look at the 30s, where there was the Great Depression, they did all of these government programs to help the country, because everything was in the toilet, right? Well, 30 years later, in the 60s, there was a 19% poverty rate, and it was a problem. And so how could they address these problems? They they put into like, that's how LBJ ran on the war on poverty, and he started to implement these things to support the country, right? And it's taken a long time for us to get down to 10% poverty, 10 and a half percent, yeah, you know. And that was what was happening as of last year. And now things are shifting in the wrong direction. Lesley Logan 6:57  Yeah. And there. And also, by the way, we were, we were recording this before the Thanksgiving holiday. And so what we do know is, on January 1st, everyone's healthcare bills are going up. Ours, we are very lucky that ours only went up 3000 for the year, for the two of us.Brad Crowell 7:09  Yeah, it's, well, it's 25%. Ours went up 25%.Lesley Logan 7:12  Yeah, that is insanity. That is insanity. And can we afford it? Sure, we're just gonna invest less in our retirement, I guess. Like, you know, it's not like, it's that money just doesn't come from somewhere. And what I also know is that there are people in certain states that theirs is going up 48%, and some people are making $85,000 a year. Their health insurance is going to cost $44,000 a year. So we're going to see poverty go up. And if we don't start thinking about it as a way that, like, I think that a lot of people think about people taking like they get these things, and they're taking from the government, and that's coming from your tax dollars. But if we don't help people get ahead, they will always be taking in different ways, right? And so your crime will go up. Why? Because people have to sleep and eat and be warm like they just have to. So we have to think of it as a holistic thing. And I really think that I love what LBJ did, and I love that we're honoring this. And I think like we could be doing so much better by now. I feel like if LBJ was alive, I would hope he'd be disappointed that we don't actually have preschool for every child in the US for free, like Head Start in Vegas, my nail tech, it's a lottery. So some of her kids got Head Start, and some of her kids didn't. And she's like, Lesley, I can tell you a difference in my children my kids can read levels above where their greatest and some of them are behind and and she's like, I can't, I can't teach them that that's not something I didn't teach them, that they learned that at school when they got to earlier. So I just think that we could be doing a better job, and especially, like, we should be thinking about people who'd have less than us and not, how do we give them more? Like, yes, any more money, but how do we actually set them up so that they can do other things? They need trainings, they need childcare. They need it to be they need busses to be free, you know, like, there's just different things we can do. So anyways.Brad Crowell 8:58  Yeah, it's that this is this is a tough thing, you know, like, if you look at the I'm not going to keep going, because I could keep going on. But this, this is definitely a challenging thing. I'm, you know, I'm glad that we have attempted to address it over the years. I don't admit, I don't, I can't, I can't convincingly say that we've done an amazing job of the process of doing it, you know, like, but I, but I think the intention is the right intention, and we should be always looking for ways to make it better. Lesley Logan 9:22  And also, I think, you know, that's exactly the right line, like we're just always looking for ways to make it better, you're going to have people who are going to have nefarious acts that they're using the money for or not doing it correctly. You cannot always be thinking only about those people, because they're always a small percentage. You have to be thinking about the greater good. And then when you figure out how people are usurping the system or doing different things. Okay, you make changes.Brad Crowell 9:43  Well, let's, let's talk about this like I think this is important, because there's always going to be someone taking advantage of the system. But I think even defining it as a percentage seems misleading, because I would imagine the numbers are minutes. We're talking 40 million people in the United States are considered poverty line or below. 40 million people. So even if 10,000 people are taking advantage of it, that sounds like a lot of people, but the percentage is microscopic compared to 40 million.Lesley Logan 10:05  Correct. And also, I wasn't even thinking about the people like this is, right, I think people are thinking about the people on food stamps or whatever, like the Reagan years of all that disgusting rhetoric, but I was actually thinking about, like, the companies that are pretending to help people, to get the government money to do these things, I was actually thinking about like, you know, there are people who can say, Oh, I'm going to do these things with this program and get that money, but I think you just you, you learn from what you did, and you do better the next time. And we have to allow for that, and we can't be so afraid of people who could take advantage on either side that we don't do anything at all? Brad Crowell 10:43  Yeah. Okay, well, hey, thanks for joining us on that journey. That was a journey, that was a history lesson. Lesley Logan 10:48  I just get really upset about this. I was poor. I was so poor, you know. And I was, I guess I was lucky that my parents weren't on any of these stamps, whatever, because they had family to help. But, like, this is how my life started, so I can't even imagine, was, like, if they didn't have that help.Brad Crowell 11:02  Yeah, yeah. Well, I appreciate your passion, and I think it's important. I love it. I really do. I mean. Lesley Logan 11:09  Well, I mean, like, I would, I would not have gone to college had my best friend's parents not cosign a student loan. You know, like, I happen to have those people, and that's why I get to be where I am today. So I'm, I think that, like, I think a lot of people don't realize how close they were growing up, or people in their lives were to being poor, like impoverished. So, January, hi.Brad Crowell 11:30  Let's talk about upcoming events. We're shifting gears. Lesley Logan 11:33  We're home, today we're home. Brad Crowell 11:34  It's January. Today is the eighth we just we are pulling in from tour tonight. Lesley Logan 11:39  We are fixing the roots, changing the nails. Well, they're my nails, but they're getting new they're getting an update.Brad Crowell 11:45  Yeah. And then tomorrow. Lesley Logan 11:45  We drive down to Huntington Beach. Brad Crowell 11:45  We hit the road again. Lesley Logan 11:46  We're leaving Bayon, we're leaving Bayon, and we're we're driving to Huntington Beach for the Pilates Journal Expo. You can go to xxll.co/pilatesjournal. I don't know why I stuttered there, but I thought I said them. That's completely wrong. xxll.co/pilatesjournal. So if there's any spots left, you should totally join us there. There's like, the lineup is insane. Brad Crowell 12:08  Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. Lesley Logan 12:09  The lineup's insane. Then, oh, you know what? We'll tell you this, but I'm pretty sure tomorrow it releases. So you want to get on the waitlist for next year's Cambodia retreat, because.Brad Crowell 12:20  No, this year's. Lesley Logan 12:21  This year's, oh, it's this year. Well, you need to change that copy, my friend. You want to get on the waitlist for this year's Cambodia retreat details. We'll be having early bird presale right now. In fact, if my memory serves me correctly, it starts tomorrow, but only for those on the waitlist, crowsnestretreats.com is where you go. Brad Crowell 12:40  I thought it was the 12th, but it could be the ninth. Lesley Logan 12:43  I think it's the ninth. Brad Crowell 12:44  Anyway, get on the waitlist, crowsnestretreats.com you'll find the waitlist there. Lesley Logan 12:46  This is what happens when we're recording early. Okay, then next month we have Agency Mini. It'll be happening this year's February, and you want to get on the waitlist for that, for it prfit.biz/mini who is it for? It is for the teachers, Pilates teachers and studio owners who work for themselves or want to, and they want to have ease in their business, without the overwhelm, and they actually want to be in control of things and not feel like they're always like reacting, because that's annoying in the business. So pfit.biz/mini we only are doing Mini, I don't know, maybe twice this year, but for sure, one. Brad Crowell 13:17  The plan, the plan is two times in 2026. Lesley Logan 13:19  Okay, great. Well, you don't want to miss this one. You'll go, oh, I'll do the next one because that could be, that could be the fall. I don't even know what it's going to be. Oh, it's going to be the fall. We could find out on the flight.Brad Crowell 13:26  Yeah, end of Q3 beginning of Q4. Lesley Logan 13:30  And then. Brad Crowell 13:30  So, but the point is this, why wait another six months? It's, we're talking it's early it's going to be early bird. Lesley Logan 13:38  By the way, it's only $25 when it's early bird, and it's $65 full price. If what we teach you makes you an extra. Brad Crowell 13:43  $25 Lesley Logan 13:46  Over six months. No, I was gonna say, do the math like, okay, six months is what? 26 weeks? 26 weeks, right? 24 weeks this I'm not a mathematician, so 24. Let's say, let's just say, all we do is make you an extra $100 a week. That's $2,400 you're fucking welcome, for 25 bucks go to prfit.biz/mini then in March, Brad and I are taking off to Europe for a month. I'm teaching the Poland Controlology Pilates conference with Karen Frischmann, xxll.co/poland and then the next week, where Karen and I are in Brussels. Brad's joining us along for the ride. xxll.co/brussels we're super excited about both events are selling really fast. I think our sessions are very much taken in Brussels, but there might be some spots left in Poland and then, okay, we've been saying, like, I don't know if we can announce it yet. I don't know. Well, here's what I do know. As of December 2nd, it was official to announce that we were going to be in London. So it's a few can now buy your ticket. And I don't know if the early bird is happening still or not, because I don't know anything, but I do know we'll be there. And I have workshops, I have a booth, you going to want to go to xxll.co/pot, so go there. Okay. Brad Crowell 15:00  Awesome. Lesley Logan 15:00  We have an audience question. I promise not to take too long.Brad Crowell 15:02  We sure do. Yeah. Instagram, (inaudible) reached out asking if OPC has a certificate of training online, and she said she wants it to be a Pilates instructor, mostly for knowledge. So she's not trying to be a teacher. She wants it as a practitioner to know specifically for herself. Do we have any recommendations? Lesley Logan 15:24  Well, I love this question, because I always want to do this with Anthony for yoga, like I always wanted him to teach a yoga training, but just for people who just wanted to learn it better and not be a teacher, because almost every teacher training that I've ever heard of in life is going to teach you how to teach it. And so what I would say is I don't know of a program that does that, especially online, that's going to be solid that I know about. I know that the Pilates Center out of Boulder does have online trainings, but again, they're going to train you to teach it, and there's going to be requirements for you to teach it. So what I would probably also just encourage you to do, because this is something that I realized now that we've trained with Anthony for over 10 years, is that the more you just do classical Pilates with us at OPC, you will become more educated and knowledgeable about the practice, especially for your body. So what I would actually suggest, and I know this sounds like a shameless plug, but seriously. Now at OPC, we follow Joseph Pilates' orders on all the pieces of equipment. And yes, there's other equipment that we don't talk about in OPC classes, but you can always ask us about them. And you can take advantage of the FFF and submit videos of you doing exercises, and I will give you specialized feedback for your practice so you're more knowledge about your body. You can come to the live class every month, and ask questions for your practice, and I will answer that for your body, and you can get the flash cards. So you do those things.Brad Crowell 16:46  So do, do we have a certificate of training online? No, but I don't know that you need one the tools that we've created will will support you in your goal, yeah, which you know we're assuming is to further your personal practice. Lesley Logan 17:01  And if you're like, I don't want to pay you a dime, LL, great. Our YouTube videos are free. Go have fun. You can do it between the flash cards and the YouTube videos. You can really understand it for your practice. You don't need to pay thousands of dollars for training where you only want half of the information. That's what I would do. If you would like to ask me a question. You can go to 310-905-5534, you can text us, call us, or you can go to beitpod.com/questions and send one in. Brad Crowell 17:24  Love it. Lesley Logan 17:25  And you can send your win in because I really love seeing those. All right. Brad Crowell 17:29  Stick around. We'll be right back.Brad Crowell 17:31  All right, now, let's talk about June Suepunpuck. Okay, June is a joy guide. She's a speaker, and she's the host of the How to Find Joy Podcast. She helps high achieving, heart-led leaders who have reached the top and still find themselves asking, is this it? Or what's the point? With a background in psychology and tools like human design and nervous system healing, June guides people through the process of reassessing their goals, addressing destination addiction of finding fulfillment in daily life rather than in the next achievement. This conversation lit me on fire because I, I'm I'm telling you, we've had a handful of other guests that talked about joy, and we had the doctor who was doing the research on it, and I was, like, really intrigued by that, but I don't know this. I really connected with the way that she talked and spoke and the things that she dug into. So I'm very excited to discuss this. So tell me what you loved about this convo.Lesley Logan 18:33  Okay, so we, I mean, there's so many different things, but like, I really love that she found a way to articulate the difference between, like, a career versus a calling. And that, like, you know, once you figure out what your calling is, it becomes, oh, it becomes really clear, like, this is the point. She said, like, this is the point, why we do it. I also love that she emphasize differentiate, differentiating between career versus calling, because it's, like, the important, because it's a why behind the dream, and it will determine if the result, the resulting fulfillment, will be fleeting or sustainable. So because if you're not clear on the dream, then it's really easy for us to, like, have an achievement, and then literally, three minutes later, go on to something else and a whole other feeling, like we've all done that, right? We're like, have this amazing high. And then you need a text message like, oh, fuck, right. And then, like, the high is gone. Where'd the high go? It's just totally gone. So, you have to have that clarity. Because I will say, like, I feel like I'm very much doing my calling. And the more I get clear on, like, not just what we what I know, I've always known what we're doing and why we're doing it, but the more you work on it, the more you're like, oh, I can make this better. Oh, we this could be the next thing that we do. And even on the hardest days you feel fulfilled, is more sustainable than like, going with the highs and lows of the business, like, I can have a good day only when the business has a good day. Brad Crowell 19:52  Yeah, I think, I think, like to clarify the career versus the calling thing. You know, it's put it into context, I think. She specifically meant. Mentioned her the influence of her parents on her college direction, you know, which is very typical for a first generation American, right? Her parents emigrated here. She was born here, and then what did they tell her, you got to be a doctor, basically, right? Lesley Logan 20:17  I know I had friends whose parents like, you can do whatever you want. I'm like, what? I'm not a first generation American. I was the first person to go to college like you figure out a degree that pays this bill back. That's what you have to do. Brad Crowell 20:28  Well, the the so for her, she, you know, it's like, now, go pursue your goals is what she said. And I listened to that part twice because I thought this is really interesting, you know, because she started saying, well, are these actually my goals? I don't know that these are my goals. I don't know. Am I excited about this at all? Right? This is going to put me on a career path that's going to make me probably the money that, you know, my parents want me to have, which is great, or the whatever that my parents want to have, awesome. But you know, is this my calling? And the answer is most likely no. So career versus calling in that sense, right? And she said, why are we doing the career? What is it about it? Right? We're, we're been told, Well, that's going to get you the financial independence, the house, the car, the money, the whatever, you know. And then, because you're in a parent child relationship, you know, how are you supposed to say, No, that's tough, right?Lesley Logan 21:20  Yeah, oh, I don't think, I don't even know that you she had the opportunity to you just, you don't have the life experience to know you can.Brad Crowell 21:27  Yeah, sure, and, you know, and then and then, and then, and then, what happens? Then, like, you know, you have your midlife crisis, and you're like, I hate everything about what I'm doing, you know, because once you've gotten the money, once you've had the time in the career. Does it make you happy? Probably not. Probably not. So now you're disenchanted, because you're like, Well, what the hell I thought that when I got here, it was going to be different. I was going to feel happy and fulfilled and better and ready to go, and I'm not. I don't feel that at all. So now, why am I doing it? And that's when people blow up their lives. And I really appreciate it when you and her were both talking about this moment where kaboom, right, quit everything, all of it, or it fell apart around you, you know, like in your case, it started with one decision you made, and then all these other things happening on top of it.Lesley Logan 22:13  Yeah, I like detonated something, and then like that detonated a lot of things. Brad Crowell 22:13  Yeah. So, you know, and I appreciated you sharing your story then, because I thought that was really, really awesome. But you know, the differentiating between the career versus the calling is important because of the why behind the dream and really knowing the dream. How do you know your dream? You need to know yourself, right? And that's, that's really tough.Lesley Logan 22:39  Yeah, I mean, like, I think that's where people are really struggling, is, like, getting to know themselves. I don't think, like, I think that a lot of people have been being, especially women who listen this podcast, right? Like, like, they have been trying to be the perfect daughter, perfect wife, perfect sister, perfect employee. Like, don't take up too much space. And like, now they're, they're 40s plus, and they're like, I'm fucking tired of that. But then it's like, okay, what? Okay, then, who am I? Right, right? Yeah, you know. So it's not, it's not the easiest thing, but I think it's the most essential thing to figure out.Brad Crowell 23:12  Yeah, yeah. 100% and, and, you know, so, and then there's a couple of other paths here, right? If you've hit that point of, like, I hate what I'm doing, you know, and you make a change, you know, there's, it's terrifying, it's scary. There's all these things. And that's when I, when I was really, you know, intrigued, because she said, yes, I coach people on finding joy. But I'm actually also like, a grief coach too, because when you make a change, there is grieving that happens. It just does, like, there's no way around it, right? And so what I really liked, when she was talking about this, she said, you can't it's kind of like what Anthony said, you can't have, you know, war without peace. You can't have light without dark. You can't have good without bad, right? You can't have these things. You need that polarity and joy was, was reiterating that. She said experiencing deep grief is actually necessary, because you wouldn't have understood how joyful you can be if you haven't personally experienced those dark places. I mean, I personally connected with this in my with my journey, with my story, where my, you know, I thought I was happy with my my old relationship, everything went to ship, and then I was incredibly set right, and now I have this marker in my life where I'm like, I am so much in a different place from where I was after that. And I can, I can measure against that and go barometer of in the shit versus not even close to that anymore. I am very happy today with who I am now because I had that negative experience, so.Lesley Logan 24:52  Yeah, I do think like and I think, I think it's really easy when you're in the grieving part to just go, Well, this is all happening for a reason. Correct it is. It doesn't mean you don't, you skip the part where you feel it, you know, like, and I also think it's really easy for us to want for others to not feel those things. We're like, trying to help people out in our lives from like, we try to make sure they don't make the same mistake as us. And so then we end up telling them things that make them just like, doubt what they're doing, and it's so important that, like, I remember one of the coaches we had said you can't take someone's rock bottom away, and I think that, like, you've got to be there for people when they hit it, but you kind of got to let people experience it, otherwise they're going to hit it again.Brad Crowell 25:34  Yeah, but I think there's a second step here, and I think I agree with you 100% and I think it's important for you can't take away someone's rock bottom, no, because otherwise you're just enabling them. And they're gonna they're never gonna change or learn or transform. But there's a second part of transformation after you hit the rock bottom, you have to address the grief.Lesley Logan 25:54  That you will that goes back to what June was saying. You have to. A lot of people, don't, I think they just like, want to skip over to the feeling good part.Brad Crowell 26:01  Right. And, and addressing the grief is where the self-reflection happens, the the analysis of, where were you and that you know, where were you before the shit? How did you get into the shit? Like, how do we not want to be in the shit, and now that we're now, how do we get out of it, right? And, and there's a lot of, that's right.Lesley Logan 26:01  Who do we need to see or who are you going to ask for help or. Brad Crowell 26:24  Self-reflection. Lesley Logan 26:25  Yeah, I will. There you go. That goes back to the same other thing as, like, people don't know themselves. This helps with that, because you, you, well, it's inside you, but you can't always articulate it, like, sometimes it comes out better in a journal.Brad Crowell 26:40  Yeah, sure. I mean, there's a lot of different methods to to get it out of your head, get it out of your you know, subconcsious. Lesley Logan 26:45  There was that one guy who tries to grab a journal, but close your eyes and just write what was coming up with your eyes closed. Lesley Logan 26:50  Oh, that's interesting. Lesley Logan 26:51  It was like David, somebody on the pod, like David Grove Gore Groban. Starts with a G. It was in the last 100 episodes.Brad Crowell 26:51  It's in the last 100 episodes.Lesley Logan 26:51  But I liked it. I like the idea of that, like there's different ways to do self-reflection. And when you self reflect, it allows you to know yourself, which allows you. Brad Crowell 27:08  Corbin. Lesley Logan 27:09  Corbin, not Groban, okay. So you can the more you know yourself, the more you're gonna understand, not just like your calling, but also how you experience joy and grief. Yeah.Brad Crowell 27:22  Yeah, awesome. Well, anyway, I, I, I would suggest going back and watching this episode again or listening to this episode again. Really, really awesome. Lesley Logan 27:30  She's so authentic. I really enjoyed her. Yeah.Brad Crowell 27:33  Yeah, and also very willing to be transparent. That's great. Lesley Logan 27:37  Yeah I was like, whoa. So, like, I so appreciate her transparency, because usually people come on and they like, be her like, they, like, they, they, for lack of better word, like, like, they whitewash the experience. Like I was here and now I'm here, and it's like, okay, but hold on, how do we get here? And they like, are so good at like, going around it? And she's like, nope, this is the it. This is how it was. And I, I really enjoyed that.Brad Crowell 27:58  Yeah. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we have some great be it action items from June. Brad Crowell 28:05  Welcome back, welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items that we got from your conversation with June. So what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from that convo? She suggested journaling, but she gave some very specific journaling tips, which we love here. Lesley Logan 28:25  She's a fan of the show, so she knows the rules. Brad Crowell 28:27  Although, yeah, yeah, absolutely, although, ironically, she was, she was myth-busting the perfectionism. I was really interested in listening to her first season of her podcast because she was trying to, like, break down the steps of how to be joyful. And in season two, she's basically already decided there's no one way to do it. And this entire way that I thought that I was creating in season one, I don't think I agree with myself anymore, and I was laughing about that. So sorry, perfectionist, but this, I thought, was a very actionable tip. She said, identify one good thing about today. One good thing about today. It's not a gratitude journal. This is she because she believes that gratitude is very hard to reach when you're struggling. So you're just identifying one good thing about today. You're focusing on only the one good thing, such as, I woke up tonight, or I woke up today. You know, provides a vital step on the path towards joy, even when deeper feelings of appreciation or joy feel very out of reach. So thought that was a great simple like just baby step kind of a thing to to support, especially if you're looking at everything as scary or frustrating. So, yeah. What about you?Lesley Logan 29:36  Okay. This is huge. I think this is amazing. Ready? Stop lying to yourself. That's what she says. Be It Action Item. We've never had anyone say this. And I was like, yeah, actually, that's probably the best way to be it until you see it. Stop lying to yourself. Where are you lying to yourself in your life? You need to get honest. You must figure this out. And she said, actively question the life you are currently living by asking, are you living this life that is your dream? Is it expired? Does it still even bring you joy? And so there's ways to find yourself and discover this new version of yourself that can support by reaching you can get support by reaching out to her and get support and go to therapy. But I love this, like, where am I living? Is this the life that I wanted to live? Is it the life that I wanted to live while did it expire? Did I did I move on from a new life to a new life? Does it even bring me joy? We only get this one life, you know, that's what we know.Brad Crowell 30:29  I remember this made me think back to my childhood dream, where they're like, what do you want to be when you grow up? You know, and everyone's like an astronaut, firefighter.Lesley Logan 30:38  My sister said, an adult. Brad Crowell 30:39  Brilliant. I told everyone I was going to be a professional soccer player, and I was preaching that since I was, like, six years old and. Lesley Logan 30:48  You mean, you could have done it, babe. Brad Crowell 30:49  I could have done it, except that when I got into high school and I was 75 pounds, it was pretty tough for me to be able to muscle people off the ball. So it became pretty, pretty quick that physically, it was gonna be really challenging for me to be able to compete. Lesley Logan 31:04  But look at you now. Brad Crowell 31:05  Look at me now. Lesley Logan 31:06  You, maybe you're, maybe you're a late bloomer.Brad Crowell 31:09  Pro soccer. Here I come, 43 I got this. Lesley Logan 31:12  Require you to be so consistent. Brad Crowell 31:15  But I, but I, yeah, which, which you know that's, well, that's my MO, consistency, but, but here's the here's the reality is that I also wasn't really enjoying it in my teens as much anymore. When I was a kid, all I wanted to do was soccer. I loved it. I went out, I juggled, I did the backyard thing, all that stuff. I was excited about it. But when I got in my teens, I was not as excited, not as enthusiastic. I was doing it because I thought I had to. So, you know, it was interesting to shift. Same thing happened with my music career, where I was like, I define myself as a musician. This is the only thing I actually ever want to do with my life. And then years later, I was like, well, I kind of want to do other things too. You know, is this really giving me the joy? And there are definitely pieces of the music element that I missed, don't get me wrong, for sure, but also too, I'm so grateful that I was willing to redefine who I am, how I am, because it really wasn't bringing me the joy that I thought it was and or that it initially did. So yeah, yeah, stop lying to yourself. Very, very tough. Lesley Logan 32:14  I love it. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 32:15  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 32:16  Thanks so much for listening to this, you know, our rants, to our favorite takeaways, to our episodes. Who are you going to share this episode with? I would certainly share June's first and then this one. And because your friends need to hear it, they need to hear these Be It Action Items. They need to hear these things and it allows us to have not just friendships where we cheer each other on, but friendships we can hold each other accountable. So we can be it till we see it together. So you know what to do, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 32:46  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 32:42  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. 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In this FYF episode, Lesley Logan opens the new year by honoring beginnings without forcing reinvention. Inspired by Journey to the Heart, she explores how reflection, intentional letting go, and curiosity can shape a more grounded start. Through listener wins, her own tour reflections, and a powerful mantra, this episode offers a calm, empowering way to step into the year ahead—without erasing who you already are.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Honoring beginnings without turning them into pressure.Choosing updates and upgrades instead of New Year reinvention.Letting go of what no longer belongs in this next chapter.Staying present and enjoying the journey while on tour.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsBook: Journey to the Heart by Melody Beattie - https://a.co/d/75bOwAZBook: Your Big Leap Year by Gay Hendricks - https://a.co/d/7KY1pfkEpisode 589: Brad Bizjack - https://beitpod.com/ep589Mantra - https://www.instagram.com/miche_427 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah.Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. Oh my God, it is the first, it's the first FYF of a new year. So, happy fucking new year. Happy Fuck Yeah Friday. Oh my gosh, if you had to, like, actually go to work. I hope you get the longest weekend. Because, like, why would you have to go in today? Okay, so if you are new to our podcast and you're dropping on today, this is the short, sweet and off the cuff episode where I celebrate wins of yours a win of mine. So we can see that, like, wins exist all the time. Actually have something for you guys next week where I'm sharing something that is really like, is really like the be it till you see it and why, well, celebrating is so important. And a little inspiration, a little mantra, okay? So I wanted to take the inspiration on day one of this book, Journey to the Heart from Melody Beattie, that I really love. It's like one of those, like daily meditation books. I have three of these. And because I'm I'm recovering over achiever, and I read three daily, you know, we're getting there. I actually will say one of them I'm almost done with, and I don't need to reread it, or two of, like this one I reread every year. So because I miss some days and you gotta, so I'll just explain, if you because you're not watching. So it's one of those things, like on January one, there's one to read January two, blah, blah, blah. And she even has one, one that's a leap year, so it's pretty cool. And I have Gay Hendricks' book Your Big Leap Year, which I love, because I love reading his book every single year. And this one feels like I'm reading his book all year long, and that's really fun. And then I have this other one that's cute and it's sweet, and it's like, sometimes it just hits the wrong way. So I'm finishing it and I'm giving it away, because I think it'll be good for somebody else. Just doesn't hit me, right, well, so I'll have two and then I'm, you've heard like I went as I have a hobby, you know? And one of my hobbies is like pulling a daily card and percolating on it on my walk, which I'm that's like the hobby that I'm going to start in this new year, once I'm home, I'm not home yet, so can't do that. Lesley Logan 2:40  So January one, this is what she said, and I wanted to share with you. Honor the beginning. Beginnings can be delicate or explosive. They can start almost invisibly or arrive with a big bang. Beginnings hold the promise of new lessons to be learned, new territory to be explored, and old lessons to be recalled, practiced and appreciated. Beginnings hold ambiguity, promise, fear and hope. Don't let the lessons, the experience of the past, dampen your enthusiasm for beginnings. Just because it's been hard doesn't mean it will always be that difficult. Don't let the heart breaks of the past cause you to be cynical, close you up to life's magic and promise. Open yourself wide to all the universe has to say. Let yourself begin anew. Pack your bags. Choose carefully what you bring, because packing is an important ritual. Take along some humility of the lessons of the past. Toss in some curiosity and excitement about what you haven't yet learned. Say your goodbyes to those who are you're leaving behind. Don't worry who you will meet or where you will go. The way has been prepared. The people you are to meet will be expecting you. A new journey has begun. Let it be magical. Let it unfold. All parts of the journey are sacred and holy. Take time now to honor the beginning. So that is for January one. If you get the book, you can read January two. Anyways, I make nothing off of it. I love this book, Journey to the Heart. So I like to start this episode off each week with like something that inspired me. Sometimes it inspires me in like a fiery way, and sometimes it inspires me in like a way worth reflecting. And it's really easy for us as we begin this new year to kind of bring in last year's stuff, right? And I actually don't believe in New year, new you. I actually believe in updates and upgrades and and I also actually don't even believe that it starts on the first year. You can start at any time. I mean, like, my cell phone has a new update all the time, and it's like, okay, it's a new year for that cell phone. It's a new cycle. So whether or not you're coming to this year with excitement and joy, of like, what could become or fear because of what could continue. I do think it's important to recognize beginnings, and I do think it's good to reflect about what we are unpacking, like, what aren't we taking from last year into this year? That doesn't mean you're a new person, it just means you no longer have that thing. And maybe that is a physical clean out of something you own, or maybe it's a mental letting go, cutting the cord. But I do hope that you take some time for that, and I think that's what's so fun about these FYFs. It's like each week can be one thing that we let go of, or add to, and that isn't overwhelming, right? It's not so overwhelming. So that's something for you to think about. Lesley Logan 5:25  Wins. I've got some wins that were sent in. All right. shannanlikestomove wrote in she wrote, "Big maintenance event on both reformers. Old grease boogers gone. New grease in!" I love it. Isn't that so fun, you guys? A win can just be that you cleaned your reformer because, oh my God, doesn't that take up so much space? on_point_pilates_studio wrote, "Got in the hot sauna today! Self-care for the win" Yeah. I mean, there's so many different things you could have been doing right? On_point, you could have been like, I could pay this bill, I could check this email. But you're like, no, I'm getting that hot sauna. And etain.pilates wrote, "Honestly, I just made it through a challenging week." You know, that's a win. That is a win, just like you made it through and it is Friday and you got to the end, and so good on you. All right, a win of mine. We are still on tour. We are on the last days of the tour, and my win is, I'm still enjoying myself. I'm still enjoying myself. I think it there, there's this idea that, like, if other people have other things going on and there's terrible things happening in the world, then I can't have more good and an excellent episode with Brad Bisjack, in one of his courses, he actually said, like, people said, I feel bad wanting to have more when, like so many people have less. And his response is like, nobody wins when you play small. And I really do appreciate every single one of these stops that we get to do, because I know, like, I learn every time I teach, every time I meet people and I teach like, I learn from the question they ask. I learn from the environment. I learn from looking at their body's move. I learn from their learning style understanding what I'm saying, like, oh, that's how you took that. That's so fascinating. That's not what I meant, like I learn from all that. And so I also love that these pop ups can come in the middle of a crazy week for someone, and can be a positive stop to the chaos. And so they're so important to me that that we do them because it can be the pause that someone needs, the cup feeling that someone needs. I love doing that for people, and I love that my win is, is that I'm still enjoying myself along the way, because it is so easy for the questions of, aren't you tired? And I know that those questions are meaningful, but every time someone asks, aren't you tired? Aren't you tired? Aren't you tired? Like it's so easy for the brain to latch onto that and go, am I tired? I'm like, no, I'm having a great time. I'm having a great time. And that is my win. I'm not letting the societal pressures and questions of like, I should be tired by now, and I, you know, all this different stuff, get to me. I'm actually allowing myself to be so present and in the moment and enjoy what we put together, and what my team has put together, and all of the people that have come and the impact we're making, like I'm enjoying all of it, and that's my win. Lesley Logan 8:26  So, now, your mantra for today. This mantra actually came from an Instagram comment that is couple I'll just be honest. It's a couple months back, but you know, we're getting it to you now. This is from me.shay_427. My body is not my resume. My body is not my resume. My body is not my resume. I love this mantra so much I especially wanted, I saved it for this first FYF, because I think the pressures of society, especially with all that's going on, is like you've got to be just thinner and thinner and thinner and, my goodness, you guys, they want us so busy, like, distracting ourselves with self hate and all the stuff that we have to change about ourselves that we aren't noticing all the things they're trying to take from us. They don't want you playing big, because then you will take up their version of the pie. There's no pie. There's no pie of power, there's no pie of money, there's no pie of energy, and so take up all the fucking space, okay, and your body is not a resume. So go have a great day. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. It would help this podcast grow very, very much. And I hope you're enjoying the series we've got going on. We've got some other series coming up. And have an amazing day Until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 9:52  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 10:34  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 10:39  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 10:44  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 10:51  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 10:54  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The start of a new year often comes with pressure to overhaul everything at once—but health and wellness habits do not work that way. In the final episode of the Habits Series, Lesley Logan breaks down how to choose habits that truly support your future self instead of chasing trends, rules, or social media “shoulds.” She explains why wellness habits must be personal, adaptable, and rooted in how you want to feel—not how you think you should look. This conversation invites you to slow down, remove judgment, and build health habits that actually serve you for the long haul.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Wellness habits should fuel energy hydration and recovery first.Choosing habits based on future you rather than current trends.Why judgment and shame prevent habits from sticking long term.Adding health habits slowly to protect consistency and physical recovery.Replacing outdated habits with supportive routines that fit your life.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions Episode 610: Amy Ledin - https://beitpod.com/ep610Episode 617: Brad Crowell - https://beitpod.com/ep617Episode 601: Rachel Varga - https://beitpod.com/ep601 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  So your health and wellness habits have to be making sure they're fueling you, hydrating you, and giving you time to recover. Lesley Logan 0:05  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:49  Hi, Be It babe. Welcome back to our bonus episodes on habits. We had some requests on habits, topics around travel habits and traveling, and then also health and wellness habits. And so if you haven't yet listened to all the top tips on how to create habits that actually stick, go listen to episodes one through six. We're actually giving you strategies, and also Amy Ledin and our recap episode, because we talk about the healthy the way that she creates habits too. It's important because you're going to hear sometimes you hear things the same thing I'm saying from someone else, for it to stick, because we all have different words that activate something in us, right? So you don't have to listen to that stuff to actually get them out of this episode. But it does help if we're on the same page of like, how habits are created, it can help that being said, all right, health and wellness habits. And if you have a topic that you're wanting me to do a habits talk on there's a help you need with that. Then send it in to beitpod.com/questions we can add another bonus episode, or I can answer it on a recap episode. You also can send in your wins on how the habits are going that you've been creating. And I am a I I'm kind of obsessed with habits, because habits have created the schedule that allows me to become the person that I'm so desiring to be in every single day. I get closer and closer to being that girl, and I have, that woman, and I have so much more clarity around the leader that I want to be for this business. And that helps me go, okay, well, hold on, what about her? What does she have that I'm not doing yet? And then that helps me create different habits in my day and let go of habits in my day that are no longer serving me, because, you know, guess what? We're all getting older. Can promise you that it doesn't mean we're getting old. I don't even think 100 year old is old, you know, but like, we are getting older. And so as we get older, there's things that we need more of and things that we can use less of, right? Lesley Logan 2:38  And when it comes to the topic of health and wellness, I think there's, I'm not going to go through an exhaustive list, because there'll be things that you think are part of health and wellness that I might not have thought about. But also what I want to make sure of is that, like I'm trying to be cognizant of not saying what a healthy habit is, because there's no such thing. There's just habits that serve you and habits that don't serve you and something that someone might deem as unhealthy habit might actually serve you. And so so it's really important that we like are clear on that, and we're honest about that, and we get some we articulate it for ourselves in a way that doesn't allow judgment and shame, because where judgment and shame are, I promise you know habit that you want to create is there, and I also know that you're not listening to this podcast hoping that you become someone who just judges and shames all the time, like that's not going to be fun, right? Lesley Logan 3:27  Okay, so health and wellness habits are going to be things that have to do with sleep. They're gonna have to be there and be things that have to do with water and fuel intake. They're gonna be things that fall under movement practices, and they'll be things that can even go under skin care, right? Things like that. I am a 42-year-old woman who's turning 43 probably around the series is releasing so there are, there are habits that I have incorporated in the health and wellness category of my life based on perimenopause and how it affects me. And after perimenopause, I will have to review, and maybe even as it goes closer to menopause, review the habits that I have and things that we do and and in the health and wellness category, and not just because of how I want to look, but more importantly, because of how I want to feel. And so before you get into too many details about health and wellness habits, on this topic today, this episode, I do want you to take a moment you can pause if you're thinking of a future you that you're trying to be, what health and wellness habits does she have or he have, or they have? Right? What does a day, a morning, an afternoon, evening, look like for that person, not based on what you think you can do, but what you wish you were doing. What would make you feel good? What makes that person feel good, right? So when you have that, then you can run one of the things that you're like, oh, I'm not doing that, and I want to do that. Okay, then go back through our habits series. And take the proper steps to add that in. But I'll just share, like, when you hit perimenopause and every single thing in your algorithm is telling you all the different things you have to do, and holy moly, will fucking make you crazy. It's like women should be doing creatine. Actually, they should be doing two times the creatine. Oh, the there's people who say Pilates can't do anything for you, but it's good if you do it, but you just have to make sure you're lifting weights. Like, like lifting weights is gonna be too much you can't grow strength from lifting weights, but you have to lift weights. And it's like you, feels like you're a crazy person, right? So first of all, when it comes to health and wellness habits, you have to think about the version of you you're going to become, and how, what do they have? How do you want to and if you don't know what those habits are, because some of us don't know what we don't know. Then, how do you want to feel? How do you want to feel? I can tell you right now, like, I do not want to be 60 years old with the stomach issues that I have when I was a 30. I don't want to be 60 years old with shoulder aches and pains. I don't want to be 60 years old going, oh my God I wonder what it's like to be 40. No, I want to be 60 years old with all the wisdom of being 60 years old, and have the energy to like rock my world, so I can enjoy 80 and then 100 right? So doing the research around like, what I need to be making sure I'm paying attention to now my 40s, because there's, you know, we have the benefit of so many people being in front of us and them saying, okay, if you have done this in your 40s, like, like, all these different things. So when I was adding creatine into my routines, and creatine works for me, and something that does work really well for me, I had to think, okay, well, when am I adding this into my already busy day? So many things I have to do, you know, and some people like you do creatine right after you work out, not necessarily, not if you work out late at night, you don't want to be doing creatine. It'll fuck your sleep up. Okay, so, so when do I need to be doing it? What? What? Where? What is it best to mix with and going back through our habits, stuff that we talked about, the other episodes we have to explore, test, be curious and celebrate what we did, too, until we find a time where we can we have figured out that the best prompt for that habit to happen when it's supposed to happen is there. We've figured it out. So for me, took a while. I was like, oh, maybe I should do the creatine before I work out. So it should be in my afternoon shake. Well, what if I don't have an afternoon shake? Because I actually don't have an afternoon shake every single day. I'm supposed to do double dose of creatine because it will help prevent Alzheimer's. And my goodness, that is something I don't want to have. So for me, I had to explore. Okay, I actually really like it in my morning cup of coffee, I'm gonna do double the dose. So after I put my collagen in, after I put my fiber in, I put my creatine in, and then I celebrate that I did it. And that cup of coffee also helps me celebrate, because it gets that dopamine kick anyways, it's like you're awake. So it really does help. Lesley Logan 7:50  So your health and wellness habits, first, you have to figure out how you want to feel in the future and evaluate based on like what you're doing now, and then start to add it in, one at a time. One at a time I love because it's so easy to go, okay, all right, so I'm finally, this is the day I'm gonna get it together. I'm gonna go for a morning walk, I'm gonna go for an afternoon swim, and then I'm going to do my red lights before, I go to bed, holy moly, that will like, you'll have one or two good days, and then you'll be so sore, and you're gonna fall asleep before that red light gets on, and then you're gonna shame yourself. It's not how it works. Health and wellness habits, especially ones that actually could make your body sore, take you gotta take your time adding those in so that you don't have a day that would actually harm your body to continue on with it. Okay, I'll say that again. You got to take them slow so that you can ease into it, so your body's always feeling good, especially at the beginning. We're trying to create the habit, so you don't have a day where your body feels like shit because of the habit you're trying to create, right? I don't want anyone having a hard time sitting down on a toilet. You know what I mean? Like after about like after a day where you did a leg day and then you can't sit on the toilet. You're not going to have excitement to go to the gym and do arms. It's not going to happen. The other thing about health and wellness habits is that you really do, I think you're know this is going, you really want to evaluate what works for you as between you and your doctor, that is between you and your family, like what what works for you? Because, yeah, they could be people saying you should be doing these, like intermittent fasting. I'm gonna tell you, I tried that. You probably have even heard me on episodes that I tried that, and I did, and I felt good for a little bit, and then I didn't feel good anymore, because skipping breakfast was causing me to not have enough time to get the protein that my body needed, to get the fuel in that my body needed, and so for me, that didn't work. So I'm glad there's tests out there that say it's amazing, and I know it's amazing for people, but it wasn't amazing for me at this place in my life right now that could change in five years. And so that leads us to when it comes to health and wellness, right there is what everyone says we should be doing. And then there's, well, what, how did it make us feel? And does that align with how we want to feel? If it's not, then it doesn't. We have to figure out another way to get that, right? So yes, I have to eat the veggies. I don't like the veggies, but the woman I want to become, well, she probably had some veggies, so I got to find the veggies that's going to work for me, and if I struggle to digest them, or I'm allergic to them, I'm sensitive to them, there has to be another way to get that nutrition in, right? You're seeing that? So we're not going to should on ourselves all the way to health and wellness habits, because it's not going to make you feel good, it's gonna make you shame and judge yourself, and then the habits don't stick. Lesley Logan 10:44  The other thing about health and wellness habits that I just want to, like chat with you about is like, especially in Western society, especially for women over 40 high we grew up on get thinner and thinner and be the thinner and thinner and just thinner, and pluck the brows and be thinner and thinner. And I'm gonna tell you right now, thin doesn't equal healthy. Period. It's just very important that when we come we talk about health and wellness habits that you are understanding and clear based on your hormones and blood tests and other tests in your body, about like, where, what, what is really going on in your body before you make changes to caloric consumption and and that you're, you're you're thinking about these health and wellness habits in a way that actually feels you. So your health and wellness habits should fuel you. They should also hydrate you. They should also make sure that sleep is easy. If you're struggling with sleep, we have to look at the health and wellness habits through the lens that's going to help you sleep. Once we got your sleep down, then we can look at the health and wellness habits and help with the stomach issues you've got. Why did I say sleep first? Because your sleep is part of the healing your body. And if you're not sleeping, you're not producing stomach acid, if you're not producing stomach acid, you're not gonna absorb you're not gonna break down food. You're not gonna absorb food. Okay? So you can obviously, you're welcome to focus on your stomach first, but if it's stressing you out and fucking up your sleep, I recommend you sleep. So your health and wellness habits have to be making sure they're fueling you, hydrating you, and giving you time to recover. If listening to this, you are discovering that, wow, I've had these habits that are no longer serving me. So for example, I used to run every single day, every single day, and I do, like sometimes miss that routine that I have. I live in a place where, like, as I record this, I could run in the morning every single day, but come April, not it's just not how I want to feel. I don't want to feel that hot. I'm already that hot just walking, you know, so, so for me, it changed, like how often I could run. And I will also say that running every day is not serving the other parts of the be it till I see it that I want to have, they're not it's not helping me with the strength that I'm wanting to have, and it's not helping me with the Pilates practice I want to have. So now I run two days a week, and I love it. It's great. I had to unravel the other habit. I had to replace it with something else that I could do, that could fill me up. And it did take time. It took me a long time to figure out, well, what should I do in the morning? You know, should I tried rebounding? And I tried, I tried a few things until I settled in on what I do now.Lesley Logan 13:25  But there is an episode in this series on how to unravel a habit you no longer need, that no longer serves you. And so part of that is figuring out, like, what prompts that habit, okay? Other part is figuring out what's gonna replace that habit, otherwise it becomes a vacuum. So if you are thinking, oh my gosh, as I listen to this, she's telling me, I have to let go of my nightly wine. Actually, that's not up to me. It's really up to you. If it's serving you, if it's bringing down your cortisol and allowing to be present in the family's lives, you have allowed you to connect with them, and your health and your doctor, and all the things you're doing are looking good. Please don't put judgments on yourself, of which there are not right, because what I would hate is for you to take away something that is allowing you to connect with people in this world, and then you take that away, and then you're not doing the connection part that you want. I know someone who's struggles with sleep, and so they are using weed to help them sleep. Well, of course, doctors could say, well, that's a terrible sleep, but she's actually sleeping, right? So now, is that a long term habit we want her to have? Probably not. Is it a long term fix? Absolutely not. If it's helping her get some sleep, until she can start a sleep routine that helps her wind down, get her cortisol levels down, get these other things down, and then she can come off. She can do less a little half of dose, and then a quarter dose, and then, like all that stuff, and then whatever she was doing at night that prompted her to take it that would have to unravel. So instead of just going cold turkey, no, we're not going to do that. Gotta unravel it. And we also have to make sure that we're not letting anyone tell us what's a healthy habit or a health and wellness habit. Because you you have to remember who you're trying to be it till you see and you have to remember how things are serving you, and if you're like, definitely doesn't serve me to drink that wine, because I just shame and judge myself every single night. Okay, great. Let's let it go. But what's the prompt what do we fill it with and are those shame and judgment thoughts in the year and a half, even if you replace it and said I'm just not gonna buy it, I'm just not gonna buy it. I'm gonna sit there and watch Netflix, are you gonna shame and judge yourself about Netflix? So it's really important to me that we get really honest and clear about what we consider a health and wellness habit. We're not using the media, especially social media, to tell us what we need to do. We have an amazing episode with Rachel Varga. We did two episodes with her. So her second episode is all about these tools, these beauty tricks and tools that people say we got to do, you got to do this thing. And I really love that episode because one of the things she said that'd be really helpful for for me, for sleep, was an Epsom salt scrub. Like everyone says, Epsom salt bath, it helps you sleep. I did Epsom salt scrub because of her I do it multiple times a week, and I have the best sleep, right? And so. But it took someone to tell me. It took me exploring. Took me going, okay, the media saying, this is that the best way to do it? Is that going to serve me? And then going through the episodes we talk about, okay, how, what are all the different ways that I could do I could make creatine happen in my day. Okay, what are the easiest ways and the ways I want to try? Okay and then what do I already do in the day that I could add this to without having to start a whole other thing that I have to drink each day? Okay, great. Let's try it. Let's celebrate. Oh, that kept me up at night. Okay, different drink. Okay. How'd that feel? Oh, I have a best day ever. Okay, great. Celebrate. Celebrate. Celebrate. Keep going. Keep going. Evaluate, correct, continue. As long as it works for you, as long as it's serving you. It's a great health and wellness habit, and there are so many. But the important thing is that it's you have to go to the finish line. Where are you trying to go? Who are you trying to become? What are the health and wellness habits that will help you get there? If you are someone who is getting great sleep every night, then we have to look at the health and wellness habits that will help with great sleep, and then we have to evaluate what would serve you best, not just because what the media and studies say, and then we have to add it in to a day that you already have something you're doing, and then we just celebrate that we did it. We'd make it smaller and smaller and smaller until it's easy to do. And then when it's easy to do, it'll be easier to expand on the time. And if you're like, what is she talking about? Then you got to go listen to the other episodes on the series of habits. Lesley Logan 18:02  So if there's a topic that you want us to dive into, if there are habits that you're trying to figure out how to make smaller, if there are habits that you're struggling to add in or unravel, want to hear about them. Send it to the beitpod.com/questions or send in the wins that you're having when it comes to habits that stick and what resonated with you. I want to share that in the FYF episode so you can hear yourself get that shout out and go oh my God, look at the thing that I did. Remind yourself that you did it. And if you're loving these series on topics, on different topics, and how to do them, then I would love to know what other topics you're wanting so we can make sure to include it in the lineup. Thank you so much for listening to the Be It Till You See It Podcast. I'm really proud of what work we're doing and of you for listening to it. And I can't wait to see you become the person that you're truly wanting to be. So until next time, babe, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 18:48  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Travel does not have to mean abandoning everything that helps you feel like yourself. In this Habits Series bonus episode, Lesley Logan shares how she maintains supportive routines while traveling without becoming rigid or stressed. She explains how to scale habits down on the road, identify what truly matters, and release routines that no longer serve you.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why Lesley keeps habits while traveling to feel like herself.Using travel as feedback to clarify which habits truly matter most.Why travel habits must support you and never become a control system.How Lesley scales routines down instead of quitting them entirely.Planning trips around habits to make returning home routines easier.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions Episode 610: Amy Ledin - https://beitpod.com/ep610Episode 611: Lesley & Brad - https://beitpod.com/ep611Episode 568: Anthony Benenati - https://beitpod.com/ep568Book: Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/cW2pFicBook: Journey to the Heart by Melody Beattie - https://a.co/d/75bOwAZBook: Your Big Leap Year by Gay Hendricks - https://a.co/d/7KY1pfkBook: The Sleep Revolution by Arianna Huffington - https://a.co/d/28dVERe If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:54  All right, Be It babe. So in our Habits Series, I thought it would be really important to have a couple bonuses. And if there's topics that you want me, want me to cover about habits that I haven't yet, please send it in to the beitpod.com/questions we would love to hear. So I'm going to do a bonus on habits for when you're traveling, and then also another bonus episode on like habits that are more like health and movement related. If you are new to this podcast, hello. I'm the host of Be It Till You See It. And this is the bonus of a series. So I do want you to go back to the beginning of the series. That way you can see here Amy Ledin and I talk about habits. There's a recap episode with Brad and I on habits. And then there are truly six episodes that have to do with, like, actual creation of habits. So this is, this is more of a bonus, like, once you know how to create habits, then this will be helpful. Obviously, you can totally start here, because it's your life. Do what you want. Lesley Logan 1:54  So I travel a lot, and I am someone who, when I crave a little bit of certainty, we all do. Do you know, we, there are six needs and one of them, we all have a certainty. We also crave uncertainty. So that's super cool, but so I love to travel, but I also love my routines. My routines are just habits that I have created over time that helped me show up for me. In the last episode, I talked about how, like my morning habits and my night habits are the reason why I can show up for work. I cannot sit down at this computer. I'm not a computer person. I don't know how I end up creating a job where I'm at a computer all the time, but I am at the computer all the time, and it means that if I'm going to sit here and look at a screen all day, that I actually need to do things that help me feel like I have the energy, the clarity, the ability to lead and see things through a vision of what I want, of be it till I see it mindset I have to have. I start to have habits that help me with that, right? So that means, but when I travel, then what do I do? Do I just stop all of them? No, because I'm someone whose body craves, whose mind craves the routines that I've created for myself while I'm on the road. Otherwise, yes, there's absolutely vacations and reasons to take vacations from your whole life, but I promise you, have you ever been on a vacation? It's longer than a couple days, and you start to like, not feel anxious that you want to go home, but just like there's a few things you need that would make this even better. So for me, there are certain habits that I really do research to see if they're possible while I travel. So in order to share that with you, I will say like, I, there are, obviously I can't do all of my habits when I travel, but I do have an awareness of which habits do make the most, like, they've had the most effect on my life, and so that takes some time, and curiosity. Also, when you travel not doing some of your habits, allows you to realize which ones you miss. So something I will share with you is you're gonna get it wrong. You're, the trips you're gonna take, after listening to this, some of them will have the habits you want, and some of them won't. And you'll realize that some will have ones you're like, I actually could have not done that that caused more stress than it was worth. So always, always, always reflecting, refining and continuing on after each trip to help you make the next trip better. It's going to be really important. It's also really important to recognize, like, these are habits, but they're not a control system. So if ever any of these things are feeling like they're controlling you and your vacation, it's probably worth exploring what's going on, what's behind that. That's not something I'm an expert, expert in, but I have worked with many clients, so I do love to work out when I travel. It does make me feel better. I'll share more of that in a moment. But I've had clients that, when they travel, that not being able to work out as much as they normally do and have control over their food has gotten to an unhealthy level where it's no longer serving them. And so I would just one of the best things you can ask yourself, like, is this serving me? I made an episode with Anthony Benenati. I talked about, there's no such thing as something that's good or bad when it comes to the things you do for your life, it's just like, is it serving you or not serving you? And so I would definitely explore that with your vacations, and that requires some self awareness and some time reflecting on who you are and how you are being on your trip. But I think it's worth it. I think it's worth it. Otherwise you're just like, mindlessly going through life, and that's boring. And that's boring, and you're not gonna be it till you see it anything that way. So all right, here's the deal. If I'm traveling by plane versus traveling by car, it makes a big difference. So if I'm traveling like I'm driving, obviously I can bring more things. So when I can bring more things, I actually do keep some of a lot of my habits, I'll start with my nighttime habits for first. Often I do a red light routine, either on my face and neck, or I have a body mat that I do. I love to read at night. Those are really important things to me. I do love a little lymphatic drainage tool that I have, and depending on the night, I might even wash my hair, right? So if I'm driving, I can actually bring all those things so I can keep all my evening habits. I also play certain music before I fall asleep. If you want a really great book about like sleeping, there's by Arianna Huffington, I think it's just called Sleep. And she talks about the importance of a sleep routine. A sleep routine is just habits that you've created that help you, but it lets my brain know that, like I'm getting ready for sleep, right? I also, at night, before I go to bed, lay out the clothes for the next day's movement so they're already out, especially if I'm in a hotel or I'm in the van on tour, Brad is asleep, so I don't want any lights to wake him up too early, so I pull those clothes out. So it's so much easier for me. At home, believe it or not, I pull those clothes out because I do my morning routine starts in our extra bathroom, so I just put them out in that extra bathroom. So I can do all of my nighttime routines if I'm traveling by car. my morning routines, if I'm traveling by car, depending on the weather, I can do a lot of my morning routines. I can go for a morning walk, right? If I have got the dog, it's, it's a requirement. I can often go to a gym, especially when we're on tour, we're usually sleeping in a parking lot that belongs to a gym. So I can do that. Lesley Logan 7:15  I can get in, well, it won't be equipment Pilates. I can get in a mat Pilates session there. I won't be able to do like my shake plate or my cold plunge. The cold plunge is something that I do let go of on a retreat. I'm not driving around trying to find a place that's got a cold plunge. It's just that's just something that has to go and you'll but maybe not for you, maybe for you, you're staying at a hotel, you get ice buckets, you put them in the tub, and you have an ice bath like there are always ways to get around to different habits you want to have, but typically, especially if I'm on tour or I'm in a hotel, I'm just like, I'm not that's just something I'm gonna let go. It does mean I don't start the morning off with a giant rush, but there it is. I also, when I travel, if I travel by car, I'll bring my morning books that you've heard me talk about as part of my morning routine. If I'm traveling by plane, depending on how much space I have, I will bring one book. If I can't bring one book, then I take a picture of one book's daily messages, and I'll open up the photo on that day and read it. So I have a book like Journey To The Heart, and I have a couple others, like the Your Big Leap Year, and then this other one, and I like to read one entry of each of those in the morning. Sometimes they are saying the exact same thing, and I feel like it's like a wonderful Tarot reading. But when I travel, I just only do one. And I share this with you because we it's important that you know that you can actually titrate these habits when you travel, so you're not being so strict with yourself. So if I normally read three of them at home when I'm traveling, because, you know, everything just takes a little bit longer when you travel, like it takes longer to get that coffee, it takes longer to go find the food, so you don't have as much extra time. I'll just read one entry, and I'll have a picture of it if I don't have the space. So I will my workouts won't always be as long when I'm on the road than when they are at home, because, again, I don't have access to everything that I have. So what I if you one of the things I want to highlight, if you're listening to like this, who's like Lesley, I don't really care about your routine. The number of minutes I dedicate to part of my routine will change, oftenthey're less, but I still get to keep the habit and routine, which helps me feel like myself. And so when you're when you're traveling, whether it's by car or plane, I would just like, map out, like, okay, do, what, which of the which of my habits do I think serve me the most, and how possible are those? Some other things that I'm really intentional about when I travel is, like, the hotel we choose. Does it have a gym? If it doesn't have a gym, is there another hotel that's in the same range of price that we're looking at that has a gym? Do any of these hotels have relationships with a gym? Can Is there a gym nearby that I can pay a drop in fee to. So that is something when I'm planning trips that I'm very conscious of, not because I'm someone who's obsessed with working out, because I'm someone who's obsessed with how I feel after I've moved my body, right? I'm very intentional. I don't take a lot of Pilates classes because I personally like to do self-led workouts, even if there's a teacher watching. I just I prefer that for myself and my practice right now. So I'm not looking at Pilates studios. But you might, right? You might be like, oh my goodness, like, I love going to class. Then definitely pick a hotel that's near a studio, right? These are things it's okay to be like you know what I need in the morning? I need a really great cashew milk latte and a yoga class. Great. Look for cashew milk lattes in an area. Then look for if there's a yoga studio nearby, and then look for the hotel that's near that. Done. So I'm really intentional about when I plan a trip. I don't try to fit my routines into the trip. I actually plan the trip around my routines, and that's part of being it till you see it. That's also how you can maintain a lot of your habits while you're gone. Then here's the cool thing, when you come back, because you kept several of the habits, the routines you have, those things are often prompts for things you didn't do while you're gone, but it's still in your brain. Oh, after I work out, I get on my shake plate, or I stretch over here, I get in for my red light. It will all come back because, one, your mindset around it is positive, and two, you're bringing the prompt back in. If you are like, oh my gosh, I came back from a trip last time, it was really hard for me to get back to one of my habits, then I would love for you to go back to this whole series. One, let's make sure it's a habit you want to have. Two, is it at the time that you want to do? And three, is the prompt clear. You might have to actually kind of start that one back over. Maybe it needs some more celebration around it, till it sticks a little heavier. You know, I've been honest, like I'm starting a new habit, a new hobby, I should say, a new hobby. And hobbies are also habits, or just things that we decide to do, and something that I've been because of my travel schedule, I've been trying to figure out is, like, when is the best time for me to do this habit? When I'm at home, I can do it at night when I'm on the road. Can I still do it at night? Oh gosh, we have dinner with people every single night. Okay, that's a little harder to do. So should I be doing it when I have lunch? You know? Should I be doing it when I pull my computer out? So I am still trying to figure out that when this hobby can be done when I'm at home, this hobby is a little easier for me to put in the night routine. Like after I get home from the gym, I can work on this little hobby that I have I really like. It's quite easy for me to add into the day. Just when I travel, I find I'm having a little bit of trouble with it. I could also not do it when I travel and have, totally fine. Is it serving me? Is it distracting from my trip? Is it making my day too full? You know, these are things we have to understand. So when you travel, and you will travel, it's really important that you are aware, and this is going to come from self-reflection. Which parts of your day help you feel the most filled up? What are the some of the if you I'm not, I'm not gonna, if you have a specific type of tea that if you have it every morning, you just have the best day. And when you don't have it, you have a shit day, then you have, you owe it to yourself to figure out how do I have this best tea and then maybe while you're on a trip, you start something new. So I had on my retreat, one of the girls on my retreat, she was going to this cute little coffee shop every single morning, and she was doing her journaling. And then one day it was closed, and she was like, oh, it's not there. Okay, I guess I'll go to this other place to do it. And instead, she took the best parts of the of the place that she was going to, and she created it on our patio. And it's and the coolest thing about that, you guys, is she can do that at home. And she's like, oh, I could just do this at the house. It's like, yeah. So sometimes when you're on a trip, you discover something that you're like, if I could have this in my life every single day. And so that's why it's important, like, some of my habits don't come with me, because it opens up space for me to explore things that are lighting me up or allows me to go, wow, I really miss that thing. So then I'm really intentional when I'm at home to never miss it, and then maybe I have to consider bringing it along for the ride on the next trip. I hope this is making sense. I hope that you're understanding like it can't be too rigid, but you do have to be aware you are if there are certain things that allow you to feel like you they must come and be part of a trip, have to and if not, you got to find something that can be something part of your trip that helps you. You know, I get on planes all the time, and I see people pull out all these little tools, like people do the face mask. I don't understand that. That's something that doesn't work for me. That's not something that I care about on a plane. But I can tell you that I have set up on a plane. It's my sleep music so I can fall asleep on a plane, because I have a hard time doing that. I absolutely have compression socks, because that helps me feel good, you know? So everything we do is a habit. It's also a choice that is helping us either get close to the person we're trying to be it until we see or further away from it. So we got to have, like, a healthy balance, a healthy push and pull of what are the things that I need to take with me on a trip. What are the things I'm gonna leave behind, and then how did, how do I feel on that trip? You know, a lot of us are lucky enough that if, while we're traveling, we go, oh my God, I can't believe I left that thing at home. I need it. In most cases, we can buy it. You know, there are places you can't get it, but in a lot of places, you could probably buy the thing that would make you feel like you. Lesley Logan 15:21  So I'm going to wrap this up with when's your next trip between now and then, can you get some reflection around what, some clarity I should say, around what habit you want to take on that trip? And then can you do the research to see if it's possible, right? And then, when you're on that trip, every single day, at the end of the day, I want you to reflect, How'd that feel? How'd it go? Oh, actually, I thought I could do this, and that actually didn't happen. So instead of it being a half an hour, I'm gonna do 15 minutes. Instead of 15 minutes, I'm do five. Oh, actually, I brought those running shoes. Didn't run one single time. And you know what? I realized, I love running at home, but I don't like running on a trip. Okay, great. Now, you know. It's really you don't have to get this right. And in fact, getting it right is not how habits start in the first place. They start, they are created. They stick based on how they make you feel. And they have to make you feel good, because if they make you feel bad, your brain is going to avoid doing them. All right, loves, again, send your wins in. Send in the topics that you're wanting to hear, how we can help you with your habits, with that to beitpod.com/questions. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 16:29  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 17:12  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 17:16  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 17:21  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 17:28  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 17:31  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Happy New Years episode Natties! Welcome to episode 119 "Stalking Nicolas Cage" with our amazing returning guest Molly Stewart! Join us on another verbal adventure of being star struck when meeting a celebrity in real life, Sweet Dereks Tom Cruise story, Uncle Kyles Nicolas Cage story, Mollys Johnny Pemberton story, Mollys journey of writing a fantasy series, our goals and hopes for the new year 2026 and much much more…we promise a wild fun comedy ride so buckle up and enjoy! Remember to please like, comment and subscribe! Are you a part of THE Natty Nation? What are you waiting for? Click subscribe!Natties we officially have MERCH! Support us and the podcast by ordering on our website www.thenaturalspod.com Thank you!SocialsMolly Stewart: @thisredheadissfwUncle Kyle/Pod: @thenaturalspodSweet Derek: @sweetderekproductionsEmail: sweetderekproductions@gmail.com

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Lesley wraps up 2025 with a powerful reminder to release overthinking and trust your own timeline. She shares a grounding insight from JillFit about assuming good intentions, celebrates a confidence-boosting win from an Agency member, and reflects on her own shift toward choosing ease and spaciousness. This final FYF of the year invites you to review what worked, what didn't, and what you're ready to build next. Tune in to close the year with intention and self-trust.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How JillFit's reminder helped Lesley stop emotional overthinking.Christine's confidence boost while teaching a visiting instructor.Lesley's shift from lifelong FOMO to intentional choices.A year-end reflection on ease, capacity, and sustainable growth.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsJill Coleman - https://www.instagram.com/jillfit/Episode 385 - https://beitpod.com/ep385 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. Well, it's the last Fuck Yeah Friday of 2025. It's not the last Fuck Yeah, Friday. We're gonna, we're gonna keep it going. It's gonna keep evolving, just like this podcast is and has been and, oh, my God, can't believe it. You know, we started the podcast in the middle of the year, so it's like, I don't even know how many years in where we are, but I was talking with my best friend about, like, guests I want to have on and ways I want to take this podcast, and I've been, while I'm on tour, been really percolating, like, what are the themes? What are the topics? Where do we want to go? I'd want to be it till we see it. Because it is a new year, and we have changed, and we've been being it, some of you been being it till we see it for years with me, which means that we have a new version of being it till we see it going on, like we have this other step that we're in. And so I want to hear from you. I want to hear the topics you want to know more about, the things that make you curious. If there's areas that you want to be it till you see, but you see but you need experts in that. I want to know so I can bring them on, because this podcast is also helping you be it till you see it. Podcast has truly helped me be it till I see it, and also required me to do it to almost, like, have to be it till I see it, because I have to come on here and tell you what I'm doing and evolve as well. And it's really, really forced me to, like, step into it, not just think about being it till I see it, but actually be it till I see it. So if you're new here, hi, it's a short episode. Listen to our long episodes, usually on Tuesdays and Thursdays. This month, we are doing a Habit Series. Because I really it's really important to me that you have this, these tools and the ways to make habits that actually stick. Something you can listen to it again and again and again. You're not just like, what was that episode? And trying to go back and listen to that one bit about it, you have a whole little series about it. So that series is wrapping up, and then we'll get back to our interviews. And we have a couple other series coming out. And if you have serious topics you want my opinion on, I want to share it with you. Lesley Logan 2:39  All right, so something that inspired me on the internet, I'm really excited about this one. We've had JillFit on the podcast. She was on an episode with Danny-J and she posted something a while back. In fact, as I look at the date, it's almost been a year, but I really like it, and I think it's a great way to end the year thing that's inspiring. So take what people say at face value, because trying to uncover uncover hidden meanings and ulterior motives, or trying to decipher passive aggressive behavior is a huge waste of time. Trust that grown-ass people will come to you if they have an issue, if they don't, keep living your life. One of my practices over the last several years is assuming I'm on good terms with everyone, unless I'm presented with a conversation that tells me otherwise, anything else is just fucking misery. And I've really, I'm kind of obsessed with this, right? I am someone who, if I accidentally offend somebody, right? And that's so easy to do these days, by the way, like, oh my God, I posted something that I just thought was fun. I didn't actually think of it as a like from the perspective of somebody who might have been having to do this, I was thinking of more like as just an observation of like, wow, look at how Pilates is everywhere. And most people are like, that's really cool. Oh, my God. And then like playing the game of what Pilates they see in the movement. And it hurt somebody who I really respects feelings. And I kind of, like, was like, oh, like, I didn't, like, how did she take it that way? That was clearly not my intention. Then it like plagued my mind, because I really don't like hurting anyone's feelings. I would, I don't hurt anyone's feelings and on purpose. And so if I've ever hurt yours, it is very unintentionally. And so I sat there for a second. I was like, hold on, you know, like, what's real here, you know, what? What am I? What was my intention? What was the impact? And I accepted responsibility for the impact that happened. That was not my intention, and I addressed what the intention was, and I thanked them for coming to me. And I was able to let it go, this is not the win. I'll have another win for you guys later on. But I love this, because that person did come to me, but a lot of people you know, don't, and sometimes, like, oh, they haven't texted back. Like, did I hurt their feelings? And we start to tell ourselves a story. And I love this JillFit, like, it's like, just assume, just like, move. Like, not even assume, because that's a terrible word. Just live in the world that like, if anyone has an issue with you, they're going to come tell you because they're grown-ass person. And if they are not going to tell you they're not a grown ass person, and dealing with their passive aggressiveness and trying to figure that out is fucking misery. Thank you, JillFit for giving us a phrase for that. So anyways, if you want to read that, it's in the show notes, the link to that thing. And I just love, love, love it. Lesley Logan 5:19  Okay, now let's bring up one of your wins. This is a good one. So Christine Eschen, she has been an Agency member for years, and she did eLevate with us several years ago. And I just love her, and she's so like sweet, and her lavender farm is amazing, and she said had a teacher for Balanced Body recent randomly reached out to me for a private. She lives in the San Francisco area, but has also has a home up near me. At first, I thought I'd be nervous to teach her, but then I thought about my comprehensive and my eLevate mentorship with with Lesley, so I did a little you are the only person who can do what you do. Before she showed up and just taught the body in front of me. She loved the session. Said she would be back the next time she came to the area. Thank you, LL, for your support in this community. Christine, thank you. But also, like, girl, you're the one that did it. You're the one that did it. You know, like, yes, you were in my mentorship program. Yes, I have been saying you are the only person who could do what you do the way that you do it for years. But you applied it. You be-ed it till you see-ed it. I don't think that's a word, but I'm making one, and, and thank you for celebrating it with us, because it means the world to us. And I think you just inspired a bunch of people. Lesley Logan 6:31  All right, my win. So as we come to an end of this year, like what I'm thinking about, you know, at the beginning of the year, I was like, what's your word? What's your word? What's your word? And I really was like, I like my I just want space. I want I want ease. I want ease. And every single month and quarter, I just kept asking myself, okay, how can I have more ease in this project? How can I do more of this? Okay, that didn't feel easeful. So what can we do for the next time? Just lots of I should have made the word for this year reflection, because it was a lot of reflection. And as I wrap this year up, and we're on tour and we're a month for my 43rd birthday, there's so many things to celebrate. We've had one of the best years we've ever had. We continue to grow. We have made, in doing that, we have made major changes to our businesses to make sure that we support the people around us without burning ourselves out. And you know, it's been a hard year. It's also been a crappy year. It's also been like a really mentally taxing, oh my God, like the fear I have every single day for the people who have less than me all the time. It's really hard. Like I really fear every day, and then I have to just show up and be it till I see it, because I can't fix that. I definitely can't have fix that without money and without time, right? Like so I have to do the things that I do, care about the people I care about, inspire people every single day so that I can fight for the rights of others, you know? So it's been, it's hard, and if you are nodding along with me, it's been a hard year. If you're an empathetic person, it's been a hard year. But also, as an empathetic person, I am looking back at this year and just really proud of myself. And one of the things that I'm excited to share with you, as a witness this, I am someone who has, like, suffered from FOMO my whole life. I've always, like, I never really felt like I belonged. So I, like, have like, this fear of, like, I didn't get invited to that thing. You know, I just had FOMO when I get invited to a lunch group or a birthday party or blah, blah, blah. And like, didn't get invited to a dance, like, just FOMO, FOMO, FOMO, which just created this person who, like, over-did over-showed up, over-said yes. And when the pandemic happened, we had this huge pause in our life, right? And it really let me see, like, whoa, I was going, like, there was just I was chewing too much, and I was really grateful. And then I, like, thought, I found then there was, like, the pendulum swang, where I was not doing too much, but I was traveling a lot less, so I could be really focused. And now the travel has picked up. And a few months ago, without fear, I was able to say to my team, I want to travel less. I want to say yes to less events that are not ours. And I was able to say that without fear of missing out. Without fear, like, oh my God, if I start saying no to these invites, am I going to have less of a space on this earth, right? And I hope that this one gives you some inspiration as well. Like, what are you going to use as a tool for doing a temp check on whether you should say yes or no. So we created one after I did that, so that we can evaluate whether something is a fuck yes or no, right, and it's not just monetary, it's a lot of things. And so after coming to that decision, and then, like, the win of not going, oh my God, I'm gonna let people down, like, I didn't have that, like, I just feel like I've like, like, I've really found the be it, in getting comfortable in what I can do, but I do really well and what I'm willing to do, and that's huge. And I can change my mind if I want to, but I am really, really proud that for the next couple of years we are going to say yes to less stuff, and we already closed next year's calendar, and we are only accepting a couple things for 2027 and something else that, of course, I would love to do, we're not doing till 2028 because the reality is, is that, like there's too, there's too many things to want to do, and to do them well, there needs to be space, and I know that from my year of reflection. Lesley Logan 10:46  So if you are going to have a word of the year for 2026 send it into the beitpod.com/questions I'd love to hear what it is. I'm someone who takes a long time. I think I'm better at like, discovering the theme of the year at the end of the year. But I also really implore you, is that the right word, implore you, to take some time to reflect on this year, what you liked, what you didn't like, what worked and what didn't work. And just because it didn't work doesn't mean you don't get to do it again, or don't get to make it and take another stab at it. But if something isn't working and you don't like it, what are the ways that you can use the habits that we've been talking about, the habits challenge, the habits, not challenge, but course, series, to help yourself unravel those things and create what you do want to have. That's what I want you to percolate on. Lesley Logan 11:37  And your affirmation, I love this one. I saw this a long time ago, and I saved it for you. You are not behind, you are on your own timeline, and it's perfect. You are not behind, you're on your own timeline, and it's perfect. You can't think of another better affirmation for the last Friday of this year, that you are not behind. You are on your own timeline, and it's perfect. All right, Be It babe, you are the freaking best. Thank you for celebrating another year with me. You're amazing, and you know what to do, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 12:17  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 13:00  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 13:04  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 13:09  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 13:16  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 13:19  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this Habits Series episode, Lesley Logan breaks down how identity and belief play a foundational role in creating habits that last. She explains why habits fall apart when they conflict with self-talk and how shifting who you believe you are makes behavior change easier and more sustainable. Rather than forcing consistency, Lesley invites listeners to explore becoming the person who naturally lives the habits they want. This episode offers a mindset reset that helps habits stick without shame or perfection.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Recognizing habits as reflections of current identity and self-belief.Understanding why belief must precede consistency for habits to stick.Using identity statements to guide habit choices and experimentation.Filtering daily routines through the person you want to become.Allowing habits to evolve as identity and life seasons change.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsEpisode 589: Brad Bizjack - https://beitpod.com/ep589Episode 613: The Truth About Why Habits Matter - https://beitpod.com/ep613 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Our whole entire day is just a series of different habits that we have, even ones we don't like. They serve a purpose. They serve a purpose for our brain. And that is how a habit is really created. But you have to be someone who actually believes you can be it like someone who has habits. Lesley Logan 0:15  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:53  Hi, Be It babe. Welcome back to our Habits Series. I'm super excited about this series. I hope you've been enjoying it. If you haven't listened to the first part of the habit series, you can listen to this one, but I highly recommend you start at the beginning of the series, because it gives you the tools that you can rinse and repeat for every habit you want to have. And so today's topic is like, how being it till you see it helps with habits. There's a few different ways it helps with habits. So if you are someone who believes that you can't start a new habit, you won't. I know that sounds like duh, but also and also like, how many times have you been like, I'm a procrastinator, or I just can't be consistent with anything, or I'm just, I'm not a morning person. When we have those statements, those I am statements that are in conflict of the things we want to do, for sure, you're not going to make the habit happen that you want. It just isn't going to work like that. So I definitely want you, if there's a habit that you're wanting to create, I want you to listen to the start of the series, because we go through like the different tools that you need to do, to take a habit of feeling and then bring it into fruition. I shared in one of the episodes what habit I have been working on, and since I recorded those, I'm really proud to say, like, it's become a habit that I do. It's something that I actually think about doing. So I still have to celebrate. It's my habit that, like, I can step out of the celebration part. And I'm also, if you go to the episode where, like, the part of the day that your habit goes in, I am because my schedule has been really crazy, still figuring out when the best time of day, what is the best thing that the habit comes after, and that's just because I'm experimenting. But I do believe that I am someone who can create habits that stick. It is a habit that I want, and so it's still happening daily. It's just taking a little longer to stick in a place where I don't need to remind myself to do it with the testing of the prompts and with the celebration. And so I share that with you because it these things just take time, not because it takes 60 days and then voila, you have it. That's not how it works, and not because it only takes a day, but because we have to get our brain wrapped around it, and then our whole entire day is just a series of different habits that we have, even ones we don't like. They serve a purpose. They serve a purpose for our brain. And that is how a habit is really created. But you have to be someone who actually believes you can be like someone who has habits. I've had Brad Bisjack on as a guest before, and he's someone that I coached with a couple years ago, and he has this like, be do have situation, I promise this has to do with be it till you see it. And a lot of people go with, once I have blank, then I will do blank, and I will become blank, right? So once I have money, then I will be able to start that business, and then I'll be successful, right? Other people are like, well, they do it in the a different order. So they have, I don't know, actually, I'm not really good with the anagram, but there's a different order you can do it in. It still doesn't get you what you want. So there's only one way to do it. You have to go with the B, then the do, then the have. So be it till you see it, right? So if you want to be someone who works out and does move it every day, you have to act as if you're someone who works out every day. You also have to believe I am someone who moves every day. I am someone who values movement. So the thoughts you put in helps you filter. It also will help you as you as you start to create habits that stick in that you're going to get something wrong. You're going to get something wrong, you're gonna get something, you're gonna say I'm who wants to go to the gym every day, and then you might, I hate this gym. Actually, I prefer Jiu Jitsu. Actually, I'm someone who moves every day. I'm gonna go to a dance class. Actually, I hate dance instead, I'm gonna go and do some Tai Chi. Like, in the process of becoming having the habits you want, you have to start with the person you want to be, and then ask yourself, what would that person do if I'm if someone, if I'm already someone who values movement, what would I do in the morning or in the afternoon or at night? And then break it down to something smaller, and then be curious about it and celebrate what you did do. So the be it till you see it mindset doesn't just apply to a business goal, or a money goal, or relationship goal or health goal. It actually applies to the life, the entire compass of the capacity of the life that you want to have. And so it's super important how you talk to yourself. Because if you are saying, I suck at this, I'm terrible at this, I'm someone who can't get up in the morning. You're not going to just you're not going to start getting up in the morning and having a habit that sticks. We have to start that mindset. Lesley Logan 5:25  So what I would suggest that you do, I think it's super important, is just kind of reflect about, like, who you want to be, right? Who is the be? What are we being it until we see? So take some time and just reflect on like, okay, it's the future. We snapped our fingers. Everything worked out. Who are you? You know, what time do you get up in the morning? How do you spend your time? What does it smell like where you are? What does it feel like? What clothes do you wear? You know, do you cook for yourself? Do the meals get delivered? Keep going, right? So like you're, you're the person you want to be, is how we filter, what are the actual habits that you are going to have? So this episode could have come honestly as number one before you filled out the bubble of like, okay, I want to have this. And here's all the different ideas. But this is a really good mindset talk to like, think about. When I was in Cambodia a couple weeks ago, leading people through the workshop, the first thing we have to do is like, figure out, like, okay, so before I teach you habits that stick, and before I teach you how to delegate things off your plate, and before I teach you how to do a dream schedule, we have to understand, like, who it is that we want to be. Because if we know who that person is, you know, then we can actually create the schedule that involves that person. But if we don't go through that process, then we actually create a dream schedule and habits based on the person we are right now. And there's probably there's nothing wrong with who you are right now. You're an amazing person. You're worthy already. But if you are listening to this, it's because you want a little bit more. You want something more in an area of your life, there's something that you're wanting to be till you see. And so I would, I really encourage you to take out a piece of paper, journal, notebook, you know, transcript tool, and to start to go through a dream day of the like you were already it. Everything has happened. You've had the training or the certificate, or the education or the windfall that you need. And so, who are you? What do you value? Who do believe about yourself? What are the I am statements that you say? Okay, when you have that, then it's like, okay, so, what does it what habits does this person have? So if you want to have a like a beautiful Pilates studio, right? And your dream schedule at that studio is that you will actually come in, read everyone who works with you, say hi to the clients that first class. You know, there's a scent that you make sure is on in the studio. And then you go to your office and you do what? And then you maybe you take class then, and then it's lunchtime, and then you have meetings, who you're meeting with, all these different things. What are the habits that that person has before they get to the studio, or the habits that person has when they're at work? What are the what are the habits that person has when they get home? So see yourself in the future already having all the things. So who is that person? And then what we can do is rewind it or unravel it to go we get to where we are today, and then go back to episode one, and then two and three and four, and actually start to process one thing at a time, one habit at a time. Lesley Logan 8:39  And the other way that the be it till you see it mindset works is that you actually get to just try one at a time. Because if we try to be it till we see it as an all or nothing. We talked about this in last episode, we try to do seven habits at the same time. It becomes really difficult to understand what's working and really see how we like it. And so when you have the be it till you see it mindset, as you try out these different habits, it makes it so much easier to make sure that the habits are ones that are going to give you the life that you want to live. And then you get to act as if you already have that habit, allowing to be easier for you to celebrate, easy to be curious, easier for the habit to actually stick, because your belief is you already are this person with these habits and not the the other opposite, which is like I am someone who procrastinates. Does that make sense? So keeping this episode short, because what I would prefer you do is take some time to think about the person that you want to be on the other side of all of this, and then really think about all the habits that that person has, the you that at that time that has and not shaming or blaming yourself. I should be further by now. I should be further ahead. I should already have these done. I've tried this habit before, starting all over again. No, that, that shit talk doesn't even work. That doesn't it's not going to help anybody. In fact, what it does it just, it actually just keeps you safe. I know. Do you believe that, like, say, there's safety in living the life that you're trying to get out of? Yeah? Because your brain is like, well, this is safe. This is the devil that I know, right? So I would love for you to take some time today just to really think about who you're trying to become. Who is the be it till we see it? What are those habits that you want to have in place? And then go back to the beginning of this process, write down one of the habits in the center, all the ideas that go around it. Then do the grid of want to do, don't want to do, easy to do, hard to do. Then take the couple that are in that one quadrant, because it's only goimng to be a couple, and then see where you can plug it into your day, and then have it as a prompt. And then use the be it till you see it mindset, until the habit sticks. I am someone who can do this thing. I am someone who have this thing comes easy for and then I am going to I'm someone who wants to make coffee for myself and my partner in the morning. So what would that person do to make coffee in the morning? Who do you have to be? And it really does make it so much easier to make any habit, because there's a belief in yourself that it's possible. I tell the people that I coach all the time like I cannot believe in your dreams more than you do all the time. I can I can be that person who like helps you realize that there's like you should be believing yourself. And I can do that. I can absolutely, in the beginning, when we meet, absolutely I can see the potential and the amazingness. But if you don't believe in you, you don't get very far, right? We don't get very far. I will also just add to this episode how I use habit that stick to make sure that I run this business well. And it's not perfect. I learn every single day, I'm constantly like, going, okay, who do I want to be it until I see you in this business, right? Like, okay, you get you evolve, and you get better. And in fact, you actually become the person you're trying to see. And then it's like, okay, now the business has risen to this level. We have this many people on the team, so the habits that are in my life that allow me to show up every single day at work exist in the morning. My morning routine is humongous for me. The morning walk that I have to do make sure my dog feels super, super loved, but also that I get the blood flowing. My morning plunge happens before that. My cold plunge happens before that. I read these amazing daily books while I'm in the cold plunge so that I can start the day with these words of wisdom and things to think about and remind myself of how truly loving and wonderful I can be in this world. Right? I'll need those pep talks. Those are habits. What I read, the cold plunge, the medicine that I take in the morning, the walk, the shake plate, the Pilates, the red light, when I have breakfast, fueling myself. All those habits are habits that are helping me be it till I see it, and as I continue to give more clarity around who I'm trying to become. As I grow older, as my business grows, those habits get reviewed and reflected. Some of them will evolve out or evolve to a different time. So especially for the women listening to this podcast, like some of the habits that you have may have worked for you a while ago, but they don't work anymore. They're not part of who you're becoming, and so you'll have to listen to listen the episode on how to unravel those habits, right? How do we get rid of that prompt? What are we replacing it with? And reminding ourselves that, like you didn't get anything wrong with that habit, it just no longer serves you. It's no longer part of who you're becoming, and the more we can become the person that doesn't shame and blame, but instead celebrates and inquires and gets curious, easier it is for us to add new habits that help us be it till we see it. I have habits at night that help me sleep well so I can go up in the morning to start those habits. My habits at night have also evolved. How soon, how early I have to go to bed has changed. What I can listen to before bed has changed. Right? What? What? What is my skincare routine has changed. Because as I be it till I see it, the person I'm becoming, she gets she has changed. She's gotten older. She's got different goals. She's got different dreams. And so I'm giving that to you because I think it's really important that you don't put so much pressure on yourself that what you write down is written in stone, and then you have to do it. And then once you do it, you've done it. Check. No, this whole program is created so you can re listen to it and reuse it as you evolve, as the clarity around who you're becoming, who you're being, till you see becomes clearer. So thank you so much. I'd love to hear what you're trying to how you're using habits to be, till you see it. What habits came up for you? What habits Did you realize? Like, oh, when I was listening the first couple episodes, I thought I wanted to work on this habit of drinking more water. But now that I'm thinking about how the person I want to be, what are the habits that I want to have so I can become her, because all the things we do are the ones that help us become the person we want to be, or they hold us down where we are. It's the truth. We have two more episodes in this series. They are really there for you as part of like how to change and update your habits for when you're traveling, or for specifically movement and health. So you have all the tools you need to create any habit that you want. If you are worried about habits while you're traveling or want to focus more on healthy I hate the word, like healthy habits, but habits that help with the health that you're trying to live for. Those will be the next two bonus episodes in this series. But for now, I think you've got what you need to be till you see it and create habits that stick. And I would love to hear how this series works for you. So make sure you send it in if you have any questions about it you want to dive in deeper. Send it in to the beitpod.com/questions. You can also send the wins of you celebrating the habits that you're creating to that same place, beitpod.com/questions and I will shout you out on our FYF episodes. Thank you so much, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 16:08  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Whether you want to achieve certain fitness goals, improve your relationships, or move up the career ladder, it all starts with mindset. Your mind is a powerful entity, and with consistent and intentional effort, you have the ability to transform the way you think. On today's show, you're going to learn more about the power of your mind and your capacity to utilize its incredible power.  On this compilation episode of The Model Health Show, you're going to hear four impactful messages on harnessing the power of your mind to reach your goals. You're going to hear from experts across multiple industries, including neuroscientists, mental fitness coaches, and bestselling authors.  You're going to learn how to break the cycles of negative thoughts, what it means to choose your mental diet, and what your mind needs to thrive. I hope this episode reminds you of your innate power to cultivate change and create the outcomes you want. So listen in and enjoy the show!   In this episode you'll discover: Why altruism and generosity are good for your health. (2:43) The power of changing the questions you ask yourself. (9:06) What the components of mental fitness are. (16:21) Two simple ways to improve your mental diet. (20:31) Why your brain needs consistency in order to transform. (31:51) How clarity can help you manifest your goals. (38:26)  What strategizing is and why it might be the missing key for you. (45:33) The two circuits in the brain and how they work. (55:07) What unfocusing is and how it can help you connect with yourself. (57:47)  Why unfocusing is particularly useful in the age of AI. (59:03) How playfulness can help you live a healthier, longer life. (1:00:24) Items mentioned in this episode include: Beekeepersnaturals.com/model - Save up to 30% on natural remedies! Thelumebox.com/model - Get an exclusive $260 off your red light therapy device!  The Hidden Science of Prayer - Watch this interview with Dr. Michael Beckwith! Visualization Secrets Athletes Use to Win - Hear Maya Raichoora's full interview!  Why Big Sean Made Health His Priority - Watch the full interview!  Neuroscience Secrets for Peak Performance - Learn more from Dr. Srini Pillay! Be sure you are subscribed to this podcast to automatically receive your episodes:  Apple Podcasts Spotify Soundcloud Pandora YouTube  This episode of The Model Health Show is brought to you by Beekeeper's Naturals and Lumebox. Reinvent your medicine cabinet for with clean, effective products powered by the beehive & backed by science. Claim up to a 30% discount at beekeepersnaturals.com/model. The LUMEBOX is clinically designed to deliver both red (660 nm) and near-infrared (850 nm) wavelengths in one sleek handheld device. Independently lab-tested for performance: more coverage, higher irradiance, and a greater effect. Enjoy an exclusive $260 off the premium LUMEBOX red light therapy system, designed to boost recovery, skin health, and overall vitality by using my exclusive link: thelumebox.com/model.

This week, I'm spilling the tea on my biggest holiday hack—using ChatGPT to do my holiday shopping! We're sharing our traditions, the quirky (and sometimes chaotic) ways our families ring in the season, and how technology is making holiday shopping easier than ever. I'll show you exactly how I use ChatGPT to take the stress out of gift buying. We also dive into a fun, Christmas-themed rapid-fire questions, debating real vs. fake trees, the worst holiday song, and the best Christmas movie.Wishing you joy and happiness this holiday season! Thank you for being with us this year—you are the heart of our holiday, and we're so grateful for you.In this episode:We share our holiday traditionsWhy I'm obsessed with ChatGPTHow to use ChatGPT for a more stress-free holiday seasonFunny stories from the chaos of Christmas at the Gravel householdFestive Christmas Rapid Fire QuestionsHere is my favorite quote from this episode:“All I want for Christmas is ChatGPT.” - Kim GravelExperience Bible Life Guides: Forgiven and Free — a 21-day Bible-based journey to emotional freedom, available free at https://try.biblelifeguides.com/products/forgiven-free-with-kim-gravelTake the Quiz: Which Maribelle and the Manger character are you? Find out here: https://bit.ly/4pxUqF8If you want your questions answered then leave a comment or call me and leave me a voicemail at 404-913-6460There is BONUS CONTENT in our free newsletter so make sure to subscribe at https://www.kimgravelshow.comNEW! Order Kim's Holiday Children's BookEmbark on a magical adventure with five friends as they journey together to witness the birth of Jesus! It's a heartwarming holiday tale your whole family will love.Kim's brand-new storybook Maribelle and the Manger is available now: https://maribelleandthemanger.com/?utm_source=lwya.beehiiv.com&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pre-order-kim-s-new-book&_bhlid=075a4287c5257cbe2d43cc23e857262cc9cf39cdConnect with Me:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠New episodes of The Kim Gravel Show drop every Wednesday at 6pm EST.Support our show by supporting our Sponsors:Beekeepers NaturalsTired of harsh chemicals in your supplements? Carly Kremer, the founder, found relief from recurring tonsillitis with propolis — a natural resin bees use to protect their hive. Now, every ingredient in Beekeeper's Naturals is carefully vetted so you get clean, effective support. If you're looking for natural support rooted in the power of the hive, visit https://beekeepersnaturals.com/.Aura FramesThe holidays are almost here, and Aura Frames is the gift that brings memories to life. Aura is a digital photo frame with unlimited storage that can be updated instantly from any phone, anywhere. It's an easy way to share moments, keep traditions alive, and feel connected every day. You can't wrap togetherness, but you can frame it.For a limited time, visit https://on.auraframes.com/KIM and get $45 off Aura's best-selling Carver Mat frame with promo code KIM at checkout. This exclusive Black Friday/Cyber Monday offer is their best of the year—order before it ends!FactorFuel your best season with Factor — chef-prepared, dietitian-approved meals ready in 2 minutes. Choose from 45 weekly options like Calorie Smart, Protein Plus, and Keto.Visit https://www.factormeals.com/Kim50off and use code KIM50OFF to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping on your first box.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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This fifth episode of the Habits Series spotlights the “just do it” mindset and why ditching all-or-nothing thinking is non-negotiable if you want habits that truly stick. Lesley breaks down how tiny actions create momentum, why immediate celebration rewires your brain, and why failure is simply feedback. She also shares real examples from her Tarot routine and coaching experience to show how experimentation leads to clarity, confidence, and consistency.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why all-or-nothing thinking prevents you from making habits achievable.The importance of making habits manageable.Using a “just do it” mindset to act despite limited time.Making habits microscopic—down to opening the book only.Treating every failed attempt as data about prompts, timing, or desire.Episode References/Links:Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/cW2pFicSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Otherwise, you should do none of it. Lesley Logan 0:04  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:46  Hi, Be It babe. Welcome back to our series on habits. We are working our way through. We are now on the other side of the half, and I am so excited. If this is your first time listening to us, I recommend going back to the beginning of the habits. You have to go back to episode one, about the beginning of the habits, just so you're not lost. And this is really where I just want to give you a pep talk, because when I was coaching people through their habits during, like, to do my habits coaching, training, years ago, I had to coach people for a couple of weeks, and no matter how much they were told by the expert himself that they need to make it smaller, that they need to make it they can't be all or nothing, that they're in experimentation mode, I found a lot of people being hard on themselves because they were unable to do the thing that they wanted to do. But they they didn't make it very small. They said, okay, for example, the habit was like, oh, I want to run five days a week, and I'm going to run a mile. And then the first day they didn't have enough time for a mile. The second day they did it, but then they were sore the third day, so they couldn't, then something happened on the fourth day, then on the fifth day, they didn't have enough time. All of a sudden, like, I'm not good enough. And that it, it doesn't even, insert your desired habit here. You know that's why it 30, 21, days, 30 days, 70 days, to make a habit isn't a real thing, because it's not about the the consistency every single day. Consistency really is a heartbeat. It's about actually making sure the thing that you want to have it's a habit is first of all something you want to do, right? It's really easy for us to have habits of other people's. Second, it's important that not only is it to have something you want to do, but we are putting it in an achievable bite size situation so that you can actually do the thing, so you can actually, like, check the box, right, from my perfectionist and my my achievers here, but a lot of you are overachievers and have an all or nothing mindset when it comes to things. And if you are going to do something, you should do all of it. Otherwise you should do none of it. And we come across this a lot at OPC. We have people who are like, oh, I only logged in once a week, and so I'm going to quit this. And it's like, once a week. That's what like, are you doing something else the rest week? No, well, then, isn't once a week better than nothing? Yeah, you're not wasting your money, right? You're not wasting your money at all. So we have to be kinder to ourselves. And I think one of the reasons, I think that, like this podcast, exists, is just to remind people that you're doing a great job and the thing you want to have and the things you want to have and the person you want to be, all that is possible, but doesn't come because you, like, snapped your fingers and woke up that day the next day, like, confident and put together with all the accolades. No, it comes together little by little, step by step, one brick at a time. Sometimes a brick falls, sometimes the brick is a little crooked, and then you learn how to be a better brick builder, or layer, brick layer. You know, you learn. You learn you can go faster, right? You know, the first time I, like, ran up a flight of stairs as a runner, like, I had to, like, look at every single step I was doing, right? There's these stairs in Santa Monica, they're like, super famous, oh, I kind of, I wonder if they're still there actually. They're in the,they're in the Palisades area and we would run from the top of the bluffs in Santa Monica down to Palisades and back up, right? And these really cool stairs, and the first, like the first set, first couple times, I couldn't even go all the way up the stairs, and then going down the stairs, I had to have my hand on the rail, right. And so, you know, but then I kept going, and it became easier to get all the way up the stairs. Came easier to just go down the stairs without touching the handle. Became easier to go two steps at a time. I got faster. Started timing myself. I got faster, right? In fact, let me tell you about these stairs. There was this guy who was going up them on a single leg all the way up, and then running down, then a single the other single leg all the way up. We're talking like so many flights of stairs. The fire department uses this to train and it happened to be like an Olympic speed skater. So anyways, all this to say, you actually don't get where you want because you snapped your fingers, you get there one step at a time, slow, slower, like, oh, you missed a step. Oh, you tripped up the step to toe. Oh, okay now you're getting faster now, now you're getting a straight line now, oh, now it's gonna be you could do with your eyes closed. Now you can do it in a single leg. So the all or nothing mindset is actually not a single person you admire in this world did anything with an all or nothing vibe. Every single one of them failed, hit their like literally had a door slammed in their face, fell to the ground, landed in mud, got up and did it again. So habits are not built on all or nothing mindsets, they will it will never happen. You will never have the habit you want. Another mindset you do need to have is a just do it mindset. Like, a just be it mindset. And that's hard. Like, it's easy to go, I can't do it right, so I'm not gonna do it today. I slept in. I'm not gonna do today. So today, for example, on the day we're recording this, I actually barely have enough time to do any of the things that I really wanted to do. I, like, I said in the last episode, I'm, like, really enjoying this, like, studying (inaudible). I was like, oh, I'm gonna do a card today. And I'm sitting on my desk and I'm gonna just do one card, and I'll open up my emails, right? And the truth is is, like, I sat down, I had seven minutes between when I sat down and what I had to do next. And so it's like, well, I'll do seven minutes of this thing. Just do it, right? Not an all or nothing thing, because I would, if I had that mindset, I wouldn't have done it yet. And what I can say right now is I might not be on card number three, right? I just started this yesterday, but I am halfway through card number two, and it's quite possible that I will have seven more minutes later today, and I can actually work on it, but the having a more just do it, just be it, like, do do what you can imperfectly is actually going to make your habits more successful. It's why a lot of people are so successful. It's why a lot of people who like, fail and fail and fail until they get it like they learn so much from the failure. Exactly, for example, today, like when I did the first day, it took me, like, 20 minutes, and I was like, because, because I was reading a bunch of different things, I had to get a bunch of different stuff together, like I was trying to connect the dots. So as of right now, as the time of recording this, I actually don't know how long it takes me to do one card with all the different questions that they ask. Does it take me 20 minutes? Does it take me 15 minutes? Does it take me? Doesn't take seven. Takes longer than that. So because I don't know that, I have to just do what I can do, and then celebrate that I did do it. And by the way, I did celebrate. I was like, oh, checked out a page, worked out, really did a great job. It's amazing, right? So, so it's really important to and ditch the all or nothing. And said, go for the like, you know, done is better than perfect mindset. Okay? And then I have mentioned this before, but I actually want to talk about, like, the celebration part of how the habits are created, because it is the thing that is so key. And then I found that a lot of people had a hard time doing, right? They, they almost had a harder time doing this, and they did making things smaller, but it was a close, close touch right, like I could, for example, if I'm in my experimentation mode of this new habit, if I find that a couple days, like a card a day is really hard, maybe I can do one card like each day I open the book, but I do one page of the book, right? Like that might be where I have to do it, rather, because each card has about three pages. So maybe I have to go one page, maybe I have to go to just one question. Maybe I have to just, maybe the habit actually becomes just opening the book, and anything I do is extra credit. Do we see how we can make it I can make it so small that I end up just getting to pick up the book, right? We talked about that in episode one. Just pick up the book. So you got to make it super small, and you have to celebrate. So celebrations are the thing that I find that perfectionists have the hardest time with, like, what? Because it's like, well, is it really worthy of celebration if I just picked up the book? Yeah, it is. If you want to keep picking up the book, it is very much worth it. It is so important. So there's over 100 different ideas of celebration that BJ taught us, but I will tell you his really fun activity for figuring out how you like to celebrate. So take a bunch of different ways you can celebrate the moment. A song you like to play, a dance you like to do, a kid you want to high five. Hopefully it's your kid. You know, like, maybe put on your favorite lipstick and go amazing, maybe high five yourself, right? All these different ways you could celebrate and then set a timer for five minutes and go into a room in your house that's messy. Every time you put something away, try one of the new things on your celebration list so you find one that feels easy, authentic and totally you. That's the way you figure it out. So when you figure it out, right? So for me, I actually do say it out loud. It's, if you're around me, you'll hear me do it. And it's because, one, we all need a pep talk, sometimes, from time to time, like, yes, people are lovely, and I get lovely DMs about how amazing I am and what they love. But like, the truth is, is that, like, I have to love what I do, too, and that, in fact, my voice is louder than the other voices. So I'm negative of myself, I don't even hear the compliments. But if I'm positive to myself, I can totally receive those compliments. So I celebrate verbally, and it's usually something amazing, but sometimes, if it's something that's a little harder, a little more challenging for me, something I'm like, I am struggling to enjoy, I turn on the music like, our house doesn't have music going on 24/7 I wish it did. I kind of, like, I'm like, how do we get a Sonos type of thing? Can, Sonos, do you want to sponsor me? How do I have because I would love this music playing in the whole house while we're working. It would definitely cover the fact that I can hear my husband in his office. But I put music on and I put on, like, songs that, like, I just absolutely love, like, sometimes that's my way of celebrating. It really helps me, like, brightens the mood, sometimes the best way. So, you know, figure out, figuring out the way you like to celebrate. And it cannot, we talked about this in earlier series, or the series, cannot be a reward later on. It has to be in the moment, in the moment, and you need to do it, even if you think about doing the habit and you miss it. So like, if tomorrow I think about doing the Tarot book, but I don't get to the Tarot book, I have to celebrate that I thought about it in that moment, because it will help me continue to build that habit. I'm going to go on tour. I'm recording this before I go on tour. And so, you know, I am bringing on tour, and I how it will take. This experiment will continue to go because it's like, okay, when on tour is it easy for me to grab this book? Is it beginning of the day? Is it at the end of the day? Is it, you know, when I'm eating dinner? Is it before I leave the van to go the gym? Like, when is it? Right now, I can tell you right now, it's not gonna happen in the morning. As much as I would love it to like, it would just like, start the day there, it's not easy, because I have to turn on a light. My husband's in the van. Dog has to pee. I have a limited time to work out and get my, get ready for the day, so I already know that that's not gonna be when I do it. So at the home, it's like before I when I sit down at my desk to work, I will do my Tarot like it's gonna, on the tour, it's gonna have to be like every day before I go to bed I will do the Tarot, right, like it might have to be like that. I don't know, I might like it more. It might become part of my nighttime routine, that we will find out. Lesley Logan 11:26  And so I just want to wrap this up by saying you're allowed to, in your process of implementing habits, get it wrong. Get the time wrong, get the prompt wrong, get the location of when you want to do it wrong. Get the size of how tiny it needs to be to get started, you're allowed to get it wrong, because every time you do, it's feedback and information about how you operate better, how what makes you tick, what makes it easier for you to build habits and and truly putting in the right spot so you're not overwhelmed, so that it's, it's, it's in the part of the day that actually fuels you. And also sometimes, as you're working through a habit, you realize you don't want it, like, I, there are some habits I really have wanted to create, or I thought I did, and then in the effort of putting through it, some of the habits that I thought would get me to the goal that I wanted weren't the thing that did it at all. They weren't the thing that did it at all, right? And I just want to share that with you, because you're not always going to get the exact right habit down. Not not only like, like as a habit, but it might not. It might even like, in the process of experimenting, might be like, you know what? I actually love doing this in the morning, but I don't want to do this in the morning. It needs to be something else. Like, I thought that running would help me feel like the health goal that I had, and it's actually not running, it's boxing, like you're the you're allowed to fail, because it's just feedback that helps you get to know yourself more. And the more you do this, the more you work this series, the easier it is for you to actually add in new habits. You start to be quicker going, oh, I know that's gonna be hard for me. I'm not gonna do it. Oh, I know that's going to be a little easier for me, and I want to do it right? Or, you know, I have this feeling of myself that I don't want to do it. Last time I felt this feeling, I should have listened. So I'm gonna listen right now. You just get to know yourself more. Failure is feedback, and I really wish we could give failure like a better there should be another word for failure, like being in process, right, is what you're trying to do. So whether you get like you nail the habit today and you don't tomorrow, it's just information on, do I have the right prompt? Is this tiny enough? Is it? Is it something that I am I enjoying it, right? Am I enjoying it? And then, most importantly, let yourself be a beginner, right? You're new to this habit. You're new to, even if it's something you used to do and you got out of the habit, you unraveled it, right? You're it's new to you and the person you are today. And so it just takes time. So ditch all or nothing. Take the messy action, celebrate what you did do and reflect, correct and continue. You got this. You're amazing. Have an awesome day. Lesley Logan 14:01  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Lesley shares a heart-tugging story from the Padres that proves integrity doesn't need an audience to make an impact. She also spotlights eLevate member Laura Fielding's huge teaching win — a reminder that preparation, courage, and trusting your own voice can open unexpected doors. And in her own win of the week, Lesley shares a personal win from the Habits Series and reflects on the ripple effect her workshop continues to create.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Hey, Be It babe. How are you? Oh, my God, the year is coming to an end. Are you enjoying the habit series? Have you started listening? This whole month we're just talking about habits, and it's really my goal, and you'll hear my win later on. This episode is to just help you understand that, like the life you want is like, literally, a series of habits that stack onto each other and allow you to have boundaries, but also the energy you need to do the things you care about. But before we get into that, we have to celebrate your wins. Something that inspired me on the internet and a little affirmation. So this is something I came up and it's really cool. So 1983 there was, you know, there's the Padres, if you follow sports at all, it's just the baseball, if you don't. In 1983 there was a 21-year-old who signed to the Padres. Amazing baseball player. Like, people were like, he's gonna have a 30 year career. I don't even know if it's possible, but maybe in 1983 it was, at any rate, he was just gonna have this amazing, amazing life, and as he was practicing and warming up, right, so after he just signed the contract, he had a, like a [cardiomyopathy] like some sort of heart attack type of a thing, something undiagnosed. No one knew he had it. He didn't know he had it. And even though he was rushed to the hospital, he ended up in a coma for six months, and when he came out of it, he was mentally and physically disabled. Never gonna play again. Whole life has changed. His family was super worried because, like, where are they gonna get the money for his medical bills he can't work now, you know all this stuff, so get this. First of all, no one knew that this is gonna happen, but this is what the Padres did. They just kept signing him for 30 years. They just kept signing him. He was, like, one of the longest signed baseball players, even though he's never played for the Padres because he had this heart attack, right? And the director of minor league relations, Priscilla Oppenheimer, she personally made sure that he was taken care of, and they kept him with health insurance. How freaking amazing is this? I mean, like, yes, look, it's a pro baseball team. Technically, they have all the money in the world to do this, but they didn't have to do this. And even in doing the first part, of just making sure he has money, keeping him signed. They got the health insurance. I mean, like, all these things that people just went out above, out of their way, above and beyond. And I think it's really important, because the reality is is, like, even though they are a professional baseball team, it's not like their professional teams don't have profit margins, right? They don't have things they have to think about. And this person didn't even make them any money, so they just did this. And I was just thinking, wow. Like, while that's not something I can do, it does maybe go, wow. There are some things that I can do, right? There are some ways we can just do things. And no one even knew that they were doing this. This is not like something like the Padres are, like, just out proclaiming every single year we signed Matt Lachappa again. They just did it, just for the just because it's the right thing to do. And so that just really inspired me, because in a world where there's a lot of shit going on and people are taking people's healthcare away and making them more expensive and just being all around assholes, there are people out there who are trying to do the right thing with where we're at. And so, you know, it just made me smile, and I think we needed that. And I hope, what I hope you do is check the link in the show notes and watch the video, because it's actually, like, just quite inspiring, and makes me want to know more about how that was made and, like, who this person was and what kind of career they could have. I just I love I love documentaries, I love stories. I love hearing these things, because it inspires me as a small business owner. Like, what could I do? How could I build things in I'm sure you know that, like, OPC donates to Nevada, SPCA because they're a no kill shelter. And I want to adopt all the dogs, and I cannot adopt all the dogs. I can't, not an option for me, but it lets me, you know, continue to donate and go, okay, at least that dog's application fee is taken care of, so someone else can have that amazing dog. But you know, what are the things that you can do? And then also just being kind that you're probably doing a lot already, and try not to overextend yourself. So celebrate what you are doing and acknowledge that. Yeah, can we agree to that? Okay, great. All right, so you can actually send that, send that in as a win, right? Like you can send in the things that you, that you have done, the donations you have made, as a win, because that allows you to celebrate the thing you're doing and inspire others as well. Lesley Logan 4:37  Okay, so, Laura Fielding from our eLevate program, and she's been to our retreat in Cambodia as well, I, on Tuesday morning, I woke up to a message from my lead instructor informing that me that she was reviewing my class that Tuesday morning. I was so cranky, dealing with a severe jet lag and a sinus infection, that the text almost had me in tears. Fast forward to the class. I had Lesley in my head and I applied all the knowledge she has given me, I got a perfect review, and the lead instructor actually asked if I would train her. She said it was the best CP class she has ever taken. She said she loved how the class flowed, and was surprised how much rotation, side bending, extension I was able to fit in. Most instructors hardly do this. She purchased three private sessions and said that she can't wait to work with me. Woohoo. Laura, Fielding, Fuck Yeah Friday. I mean, Oh my freaking goodness, you're just the coolest person. Do you just feel so good? I hope that rehearing that makes you like, go because, like, it makes me so excited to reread that. And I think no matter what you do, whether you're a teacher or like in Pilates, or you teach people, or you work in an office, or you have your own thing. Like, sometimes when there's, we can all think of a time when, like, somebody who is like, oh, this person's opinion of me matters, even if I don't want it to. And then you kind of have to psych yourself up, and you go through all the emotions of fear and worry and like, am I worthy? And then you freaking show up, and you just trust yourself, and you just do it and then, and then you get, like, something even better than you thought you would get. That is a thing. That's why it's like, we have to be really intentional about the work that we do and the work we put in, and how we talk to ourselves, and then we have to just allow it to show up for us so that we can, I mean, like, basically, of course, you probably knew you'd get a good review, right? But this got you hadn't, was it on your wild card that she'd buy privates with you, no. And that is because you showed up and you were your whole self, and you took all the work you've been doing and you laid it all out there, and you had and like, I'm just so freaking happy for you. So thank you for sharing that with us, Laura. Y'all can send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions we want to hear them. I want to share them. I want to read them. I want to get excited with you that would just like mean the world to me.Lesley Logan 6:49  Okay, my win. So, the other day, I was doing a reflection call with my partner of the one of the partners of the Mullet Tour, and she was telling me, you know about how, since I've been at her studio, like, every single day, someone has mentioned something they learned from my workshops. And I was like, Yeah, I know, even though I'm not there to hear it, I was also getting, I've been getting so many people tagging me in setting up their habits and working on them, and, like, each day trying to, like, get that habit to be something that is attainable for them, that they can celebrate, and especially this month as it is, the habits month here at Be It Pod with our habit series going on, I, like, found myself just normally when I open my Instagram, there's like, so much crap on there, and I'm like, wish I didn't have to do this in my job, but my DMs have been filled with people showing up for themselves and tagging me in that. And my freaking win is that I want, received every single one of those. I was like, yeah, celebrated with them like I didn't go well they did like I didn't discount my effect of my workshop in that life. I was like, yeah, I'm so proud of the workshop I taught. It made so much sense. I helped them see what's possible with some tough but tender love. And I get to every single day, wake up to a DM of somebody working on a habit that's making their life better, their life better, and because they're doing that for themselves, the people that they love are going to have a more energetic, more energized human being around them, and they're going to have more time to do the things that that they're designed and destined to do on this life. And then there's a bigger impact there. And I freaking am so excited. So my win is I taught an epic workshop a couple months ago, and it keeps on giving to those who attended and to me, because I get to celebrate that, and I just love it. Yeah, wins can be like that. This can they can be something that you're just like, oh my God, I did do that. That's a win, right? I hope that this week's that these weekly episodes just help you see just how many different ways you can celebrate yourself and the things you're doing. Because I just think we're just think we're just so hard we, like, think about all the different things we didn't do. You guys, I never finished a to-do list. I'm always behind at work. You know, like I am. I work so hard to get ahead that even in trying to get ahead, I'm behind, but when I get caught up, I'm still on time. Like, I have to set those things up for myself, those parameters. But the reality is is like no one ever no not a single person you admire is finishing their tasks every single day. So it's not happening, you know, like, that's not how the world works. But I can tell you that the people you admire who are doing epic things that you wish you were doing have self-care routines that put them as a priority, and for that, you need habits. So check out the habit series, if you haven't already. Lesley Logan 9:41  All right, let's get you an affirmation and get you on your weekend. So my loves, here we are. Your affirmation is, today is an opportunity to grow and learn. Today is an opportunity to grow and learn. Yeah, today is an opportunity to grow and learn. What are you gonna do to grow on today? What are you gonna learn? What are you gonna water? Right? Think of yourself as a plant. What are you gonna water? I want to know. Share it with the Be It Pod. So beitpod.com/questions. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 10:14  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 10:54  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 10:58  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 11:03  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 11:10  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 11:13  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this Habits Series episode, Lesley breaks down what it truly takes to unravel a habit that no longer fits the life you want. She explains how prompts quietly drive your behaviors, why simply removing them often backfires, and how thoughtful replacements can make change feel easier and more sustainable. Through real examples and gentle mindset shifts, you'll learn how to spot the trigger behind an unwanted habit and create a version of the routine that actually supports who you're becoming.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why there's no such thing as a "bad habit," only habits that stopped serving you.How to identify the specific "prompt" that starts a habit you dislike.Why removing a habit creates a "vacuum" that makes you want to do it more.A powerful technique you can do for managing unavoidable prompts.Why using shame and judgment will not help you unravel a habit you don't want.Episode References/Links:Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/cW2pFicSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsEpisode 613: Habits Special 1 of 8 - https://beitpod.com/ep613 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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How often is this happening? What is the prompt that's happening here? And how do I remove the prompt? Right? How do I evolve, change the scenario or change the setting? Lesley Logan 0:12  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:52  Hi, Be It babe. We're here to talk about how to break a bad habit. Oh, actually, strike that. Reverse it. It is how to unravel a habit we no longer want. Specific like specificity in words matters. And when I studied habits, and I was studying and reading BJ's book, Tiny Habits, and then doing his program, it was so cool to hear that there's no such thing as a bad habit. All right, there's no such thing as a bad habit. There's only habits that no longer serve us, but at some point they did. Lesley Logan 1:25  If you are new to the podcast, hello, I'm Lesley Logan, and we are in the middle of a habits series. And so normally, with our episodes, I'm like, listen to whatever you want. Go back and forth. When we're in the series, I might, I would suggest you go to the first episode on Habits. Um, it's several episodes back. We're almost, we're halfway through, basically, the Habits series. And this is a series I want you to be able to come back to whenever you want to add in a new habit. So you definitely want to check in with number one, so we can get here. But it this episode itself might be something you will listen to over and over again, because you might come across habits that no longer serve you. And the reason I say that is, at some point, a habit, something became a habit because it was serving you at the time, and then it kind of got out of hand, right? Maybe eating lunch at your desk like was something you had to do because you were in a busy work week, and then it just became something you always did. And you are now feeling quite lonely, because you're not going out and having lunch with friends, because you have this habit of eating lunch at your desk. So there's nothing wrong with eating lunch at your desk, right? There's actually, there's like at its at its just surface level. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's no longer serving you, and then you have to break this habit, right? And so that would be really weird, because how do you break up with lunch? When you need to eat you need to eat. So the truth is, is that there's the way, the reason that BJ Fogg talked about unraveling a habit that no longer works is that there was a series of events that got you to the habit that you have, and there's a prompt that goes off that causes you to do the thing that you no longer want to do. It's not a bell, but you can think of it like a bell. There's a prompt that happens. So for example, if every time your boss calls, you bite your nails, the prompt to biting your nails started with your boss, it's your boss calling, right? Now, we can't stop your boss from calling, but knowing what the prompt is allows us to kind of understand, like, what can we do? So if you're looking at your life and they're looking at the things that you're like, oh, I wish I could change. I wish I didn't, like, have a second with my clients. And she was like, yeah, I find myself munching after dinner even though I'm not hungry. And so, by the way, there's like, again, there's nothing wrong with munching after dinner, but she no longer wants to munch up, and it's affecting her sleep. It's affecting the goals that she has, the energy she has in the morning, it's no longer working for her. So I told her, I said, well, we have to review, like, what is the prompt to grabbing the extra snacks? Like, is there a phone call? Is there a text? Is there a show you watch? Where are, where, where are you having the extra snacks, like, what's going on that this, that this prompt started? So she just sort of evaluate, like, what was her mind going through? And she realized it's kind of when she, like, is just scrolling on social with the TV going that she wants to munch, right? So she's actually just not really even being present. And so once you know, kind of, like the promptness at the situation that we can actually make decisions on what we're going to do to unravel this. In my example of the boss calls you bite your nails, we can't actually stop the boss from calling, most likely. So that prompt isn't something we can remove, but if the prompt is something you could remove, right, then you would just remove the prompt. Like, where you try to remove the prompt, right? So if, like, oh, you know, like the, everytime I watch this TV show, then I, then I sit and have a bag of chips. We could just remove the, in theory, remove the chips or the TV show. The problem with some of the removals of prompts is it, it creates a suction, a vacuum, right? That makes you want to do it more. Lesley Logan 4:57  In BJ's book, he talked about this woman who want didn't want to eat at her like, like, she was just munching at her desk. And so it's like, munching, like, candy or whatever at her desk. And so, of course, people be like, well, just don't buy the candy. Okay, so she didn't, and then she found herself wanting something to do at her desk, because she's had this habit of, like, having these M&M's at her desk. So she ended up going to the vending machine and getting, like, a couple candy bars, which was more than the couple of M&M's that she ate at her desk. And so that's that's what I'm saying when, like, you just take the thing away, it creates a vacuum that's actually a bit more powerful because your brain is thinking about it. So, so what ended up working for this person was actually to buy carrots and celery and other things that are like would you can deem a little bit more healthier as snacks at her desk. So she still snacks at her desk. We can't remove that she's at her desk. We can't remove that she's at work. We can't remove the stress at work. So we're just swapping out the habit for something else that she feels would serve her better, those those things, that those foods, that would give her more energy. Lesley Logan 6:00  So in your life, what are some habits you want to unravel? I mentioned in the first episode, like, I do play a video game, and I probably play a little more than I that I need to, and it's affecting my ability to read more, right? And I'm also wanting to start. I've been wanting to I've been studying tarot. I like to call it tarot, because my friend called it tarot, tarot, right? And so I've got this study book that I've got, and I've been playing with different apps that you can use to study tarot, because clearly, like, I'm with my phone, the reason the prompt is I'm in line usually, or sitting in the car, we're in traffic or and Brad's on a call. Like, there's I'm bored, right? I'm bored, and my phone is a thing that I have. I'm in a doctor's office waiting to be called. Like, yes, I could bring up a book around with me everywhere, but I actually don't carry a purse that often. So, so what if I don't want to play the video game anymore? I could swap it for one of these apps that helps me study tarot, right? So that's a case of like, okay, here's a habit I don't like about myself, and I when do I do it? Okay, this is when I do it. So the prompt is usually boredom. So let's replace it with something we do want to do, and then make that the new habit. Now, going back to Episode One, how do we make things a habit. We have to celebrate that we like doing it, that we're doing it. We have to acknowledge when we're doing it. right, all that kind of stuff. So whenever you were replacing something, it doesn't just become the new habit. You do have to go through the steps that we talked about in the first three episodes on the series, but you replace it with the habit you no longer want with something else. Lesley Logan 7:38  If you are in an instance where you can unravel the habit, right? You can really figure out, like, what the prompt is, oh, the prompt is, you know, I get, like, let's get an example of a prompt you can control. After I get home from work, I sit down on the couch and I veg out. So the prompt is that you get home from work and you sit down, right? So we can unravel that by, well, what if you actually went somewhere else before you got home, right? What if you just didn't go straight home? Oh, you have to go straight home because you've got kiddos. Okay. Then what can you do with your kiddo that could replace the opportunity to sit down on the couch? So we just need to get keep you from the couch with using another habit. We got to change the prompt. Is this making sense? So it is complicated. Some people's habits are really difficult. They have immersed themselves in their lives. We're talking like smoking or drinking, maybe negative self-talk, right? You want to unravel negative self-talk, you have to first notice what the prompt is, what goes off in your day that becomes the thing that goes ding? I've talked badly about myself right now, right? Like, that's hard. We have to those ones that are a little bit more omnipresent. They kind of come with us on a lot of different places. We have to just actually go, okay, hold on. How often is happening? What is the prompt that's happening here, and how do I remove the prompt? Right? How do I evolve, change the scenario or change the setting? Lesley Logan 9:11  In the first three episodes, I talked about, when you make a habit like, you also want to make sure that, like, where the habit is happening, your day is like, in the same place, like, if you want to actually be working out, but you are at work. Like, the habits not going to necessarily work, right? If you want to clean the kitchen, but you're, you're, you're usually in the garage at that time, it's going to be really hard for you to, like, get to the kitchen. I know that sounds like crazy. Some kitchen, the garages are next to each other, but, like, there, you'd be surprised, the effort that feels like a lot. So in all these cases, just taking in the time to go, what is starting the domino to the habit that no longer serves me? And then where is the scenario happening? Is it a location? Can I avoid that location? Yes, we can block and bless people who like are mean to us. And then that causes things like, maybe you're, you got someone in your family that whenever they call, you're just so stressed out afterwards, and so you're like, oh, I need a drink. And so, like, that's the prompt. But the reality is is like many of us are not gonna not talk to our family members, many of us are actually gonna take the call. So what do you do if you have that? Well, there was this really cool instance where BJ talked about this woman who was avoiding talk taking calls with her soon to be ex-husband, was making the divorce drag on. And she was doing that because every time talk to him, would stress her out, so she wouldn't talk to him. And then, of course, like they're not divorced, right? So basically, she made a new decision. She said, okay, every time I get on the phone with him to talk about these things I'm going to immediately book myself something that I want to do. So then she actually looked forward to every time he called, because it's like, okay, I took this call. I get to go book buy myself movie tickets that movie I wanted to see. Oh, I get to get my nails done. Oh, I get to book that massage. Like she just started rewarding herself with things that she wanted to do. It made the phone calls so much easier to get through, because she knew as soon as she got off she was doing something fun for herself. It made the divorce happen sooner. So if you can't avoid certain prompts that cause certain stresses or negative self-talk or or feelings you no longer want to have, what can we change that we do in the after part and make that the habit, and then take that, go back to Episode One and run through the process. Every time there's a habit you want to create, we have to go back to Episode One and run through the process, because we might think we know what's going to work. But then when you actually sit down and you look at like, okay, is that easy or hard to do? Is it easy for me to book myself a facial? Yeah, right? Or like, or do I want to? Yes. Can I afford to? Ooh, maybe that makes it harder. So maybe that's not the thing. Every time I talk to my brother who's stressing me out, I'm gonna book myself a facial. That might not be an option, but maybe you always get to go on a hike, right? Or maybe you get to, maybe you get to, you know, go read a book. Or maybe you call, maybe you have, like, some music that you play. This house, whenever we have a big work thing going on that causes a little anxiety, a little nervousness, a little like, oh, I don't know if this is gonna work. I don't know what to do. We actually have a YouTube video that we play, and we play it and it just her voice, calms my nerves, right, her her message, like, lifts my spirits. And by the end, I'm like, I'm ready to do it. I'm ready to do the thing. And so I would just say, like, this part of the habits building does take some self-awareness, huge self-awareness, but also it requires us to explore, like, what is it that we really want? And and it also requires us to to really be honest and take a 30,000 foot view of the things we no longer want. It's so easy to beat ourselves up for the habits you don't like about yourself, reading your email at night, right? If that's a habit that you have, you no longer want Sure. We could just say, don't look at your phone at night. Okay, but then what are you going to do? Because it creates a vacuum. So what are the what is the prompt that makes you open your phone? Can we remove that prompt? Okay, no, we have to have the phone because, like, you have a partner who works late, okay, oan we remove email from your phone? Can we set up apps that allow, that work, that don't allow you to open up your email on your phone after a certain hour? Okay, great. All these things are great ideas, but then, because this is a habit, and because it's going to be plaguing your brain to check that email and you're just going to go to your computer to check it, what can you do instead? How can we replace it so we don't have this void that causes a lot of pull like a magnetized pool? What do you want to do instead? If you aren't checking email at night, what are you doing? So something that I replace, like checking my phone at night with, is actually, one, I take a nice, long shower with, Epsom salt scrub, not a bath, an Epsom salt scrub. Oh my God, I love it. That's one of the really wonderful episodes we did with Rachel Varga. And then, two, I put my red light masks on. I have to lay in my bed with my clean face, my clean chest. I have to lay in my bed for 10 minutes so I can't I can't check my emails. I can't read them. I'm laying in my bed with my red lights on. And then by the time that's over, I'm so tired, it's enough just to get the last moisturizer thing on my face before I fall asleep. Right? So if you have things you want to remove from your life, it is a weave. It's a web that's been woven. So what were the strands that got you to where you are? How do we take those things? How do we untangle this mess? And then what are we gonna place it with that you want to do? Go back through episode one through three, and then you can come back here and work on the next one. These things can take time, so be kind to yourself. Remember celebrations do matter. Shame and judgment do not create habits, nor will they help you unravel a habit.Lesley Logan 15:01  All right. So in our next episode, we are going to talk about just some things to like consider when it comes to making a habit, because I think it's really easy for perfectionism to get in the way. So we're talking about that. And then we'll also go into Episode Six will just be a bit more about how habits can help you be it till you see it. I mean, after all, that's what this podcast is about. Lesley Logan 15:19  If this was helpful. If the series has been helpful, I would it would mean the world to me. If you would send it to a friend. It really the this podcast, the growth of this podcast, it really matters, one, for us to keep doing it. And two, if we want bigger guests, like some of you, have sent me some amazing guests, and I'm like, oh my God, I love that. You think I'm that huge. We definitely have to be huge. So we're getting there. We are getting there so mighty. And it means the world to me that you're listening. And I can't wait to keep growing with you. I can't wait to be it until we see it with you. I can't wait to how you use these habits in your life. So share this with friend as we continue to grow and then the whole world is being it until they see it. Lesley Logan 15:57  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 16:39  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 16:44  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 16:48  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Brad Crowell 16:55  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 16:59  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week's episode features Heather Dubrow—Real Housewives of Orange County star, entrepreneur, podcast host, and proud mom of four—sharing her hard-earned wisdom on living fearlessly, staying authentic, and reinventing yourself in your 50s. She opens up about hitting her stride later in life, feeling more confident than ever, and seizing new opportunities without hesitation. Heather also spills a little Real Housewives tea, shares her favorite health and beauty tips, and gets real about what it takes to keep growing—even when life doesn't go as planned. If you've ever felt stuck, questioned your next step, or wondered if you missed your moment, this episode is for you.In this episode:How authenticity fueled Heather's reality TV successHeather's personal growth, gratitude, and ability to stay groundedThe expectations vs. realities of life for women in their 50sEmbracing fearlessness and new opportunities later in lifeHeather spills the Real Housewives teaHeather's health and beauty tipsHere is my favorite quote from this episode:“We either stay still or we move forward.” - Heather DubrowExperience Bible Life Guides: Forgiven and Free — a 21-day Bible-based journey to emotional freedom, available free at https://try.biblelifeguides.com/products/forgiven-free-with-kim-gravelTake the Quiz: Which Maribelle and the Manger character are you? Find out here: https://bit.ly/4pxUqF8If you want your questions answered then leave a comment or call me and leave me a voicemail at 404-913-6460There is BONUS CONTENT in our free newsletter so make sure to subscribe at https://www.kimgravelshow.comNEW! Order Kim's Holiday Children's BookEmbark on a magical adventure with five friends as they journey together to witness the birth of Jesus! It's a heartwarming holiday tale your whole family will love.Kim's brand-new storybook Maribelle and the Manger is available now: https://maribelleandthemanger.com/?utm_source=lwya.beehiiv.com&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pre-order-kim-s-new-book&_bhlid=075a4287c5257cbe2d43cc23e857262cc9cf39cdConnect with Heather Dubrow:YouTubeInstagramTikTokWebsitePodcastConnect with Me:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠New episodes of The Kim Gravel Show drop every Wednesday at 6pm EST.Support our show by supporting our Sponsors:Beekeepers NaturalsTired of harsh chemicals in your supplements? Carly Kremer, the founder, found relief from recurring tonsillitis with propolis — a natural resin bees use to protect their hive. Now, every ingredient in Beekeeper's Naturals is carefully vetted so you get clean, effective support. If you're looking for natural support rooted in the power of the hive, visit https://beekeepersnaturals.com/.Aura FramesThe holidays are almost here, and Aura Frames is the gift that brings memories to life. Aura is a digital photo frame with unlimited storage that can be updated instantly from any phone, anywhere. It's an easy way to share moments, keep traditions alive, and feel connected every day. You can't wrap togetherness, but you can frame it.For a limited time, visit https://on.auraframes.com/KIM and get $45 off Aura's best-selling Carver Mat frame with promo code KIM at checkout. This exclusive Black Friday/Cyber Monday offer is their best of the year—order before it ends!FactorFuel your best season with Factor — chef-prepared, dietitian-approved meals ready in 2 minutes. Choose from 45 weekly options like Calorie Smart, Protein Plus, and Keto.Visit https://www.factormeals.com/Kim50off and use code KIM50OFF to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping on your first box.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this third Habits Series episode, Lesley gets honest about the messy middle of change and why breaking out of the all-or-nothing trap starts with tiny, testable habits. She explains how experimenting with prompts reveals what actually works, why celebration matters, and how your feelings toward a habit determine whether it sticks. Lesley also shares why you must expand a habit before stacking a new one on top. Listen in and choose one small habit to shrink, test, and celebrate this week.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why all-or-nothing mindsets make habits harder to keep consistently.How experimenting reveals when habits genuinely work best in your life.How tiny habits help you test motivation, timing, and personal preference.The importance of celebrating attempts because how you feel truly matters.Why expanding a habit fully prepares you for stacking without overwhelm.Episode References/Links:Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/cW2pFicSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Once you have this ability to make habits at the drop of a hat, because that's what's going to happen, right? When you celebrate, when you make it small, it starts to become a habit. It's really easy to add more in, but before you do that, we have to make sure we've expanded out what we've done. Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:53  All right, Be It babe. Welcome back to the Be It Pod Habits Series. This is a series we wanted you to have, because every time you pick up habits, if you don't know how to make a habit stick, then it's gonna be really frustrating to keep hearing about, like advice, about like, different things you could be doing, or maybe you're hearing it, be it action item. You're like, oh, I want to add that in. And you're like, and then you try, and it sucks and you don't get to do it, and then you feel like a failure, and that's not gonna help you be it till you till you see it. So if this is the first time you're listening to the Be It Pod, hi, I'm Lesley Logan. I am a habits mindset Pilates instructor and business coach, and I want you to listen to the first episode in the Habits Series. So go back to last week's episode. This is episode three, so make sure you go to the first one, all right. If you've been listening to it, then you have been practicing. So like me, you've been practicing your tiny version of the habit you're trying out. We're in experimentation mode, okay. All or nothing mindsets do not work. They don't work. Being a perfectionist doesn't work. You've got to try this in an experimentation mode. In your experimentation mode, maybe you've discovered, like, I was trying to read my book after I sat down for breakfast, I'm gonna pick up my book, right? But maybe you discovered that, like, where you put something, it didn't work. You got to try it for a different time slot. I'll give you an example of a habit I was trying to do. So we have these white counters. They're super beautiful. Like, they look really good, and mag like photos, it's like, so clean. Anytime you do anything in the kitchen, the countertops somehow already look dirty, like they just look like you're like, what the heck? I just walked in here, and now there's dirt. So of course, you make coffee every morning, and of course, once you make coffee, like, even as careful as you are, there's like, somehow grounds everywhere, and it would drive me crazy, because I wanted to have clean countertops. I'm not a, I'm not a, I'm not a, I'm a messy person, not a dirty person. So I don't like the way the coffee grounds were on the counter, but I was struggling to figure out, how do I just wipe down the countertops throughout the day so that they're clean, right? And so I thought, when I was practicing this that, oh, the best habit is, like, after I make my coffee, I'll wipe down the counters. We talked about how specific like prompts don't work. It has to be after something you already do. I always make my coffee. I never miss making my coffee. So after I make my coffee, I'm gonna wipe down the counters. Make the coffee. Put it down. Wipe it down. I visualize this. I thought it had all mapped out. I mean, how hard is it? Oh my gosh, you guys, I struggled so hard two two days in a row of trying this experiment out, that didn't work. So then I tried to make it smaller, okay, well, after I make my coffee, I'll grab the towel. I'm just gonna grab it, I'm just gonna put my hand on it. And that didn't work. And I was like, oh, what is going on? And then I was like, you know, thinking about it, and I was like, well, the motivation at the moment might be in conflict. After I make the coffee, I want the coffee so I don't necessarily want to sit down and clean something. So I changed the experiment to after I put my coffee mug in the sink, I'll wipe down the counter, right? Because now I'm putting the coffee down, I'm in a cleaning mode. I could just, like, wipe down the counter. I'm in the same place that the habit needs to be. And that's another thing. When you're doing the experiment, if you said you wanted to go for a run, but where I before, like, after you do your last email before lunch, you're gonna go for a run, but where you work isn't a place you like to run, or it's not safe to run, or it's you actually need to take the shower, or whatever, like, if there's something in conflict, we have to change the time of when we're trying to do something. And so in your experimentation, you're not just experimenting with the habits that you're testing out. You're experimenting with the size, and you're experimenting with where it goes. So to recap, remember, we talked about like, maybe the habit is to read every day for 20 minutes, but I have to first start with picking the book up. Maybe your habit is running, but you have to first start by putting the shoes on. Right? If you're not used to putting the shoes on, then now, if you're already walking every day, okay, maybe you are going to run block, and if that's too much, you're going to run to the next house, right? How can we make it as small as possible, as tiny as possible, for this to be helpful for you, for this to actually be successful for you, for you also to discover if you like it, right? Like, do you even like this habit? Like, I say I want to read a physical book, but maybe after all, experimenting that I do, I'm like, I actually just like to listen to them, You know what? Right now in my life, I like to listen to them. That's fine, right? So I want you to be thinking, okay, how small can I make it? Am I doing it the right time? Is it after the right thing? So for example, another one would be like, o h, after I get home from work, I'm going to do my Pilates. But after you get home from work might not be specific enough, because maybe you have to put your bag down, then you have to go change your clothes, then you have to, like, let the dog out. So maybe you actually said it would be after work, but it wasn't specific enough. And we actually need to get more specific with when something is happening, and the more specific you can be, right after I sit down at my desk, I will make those sales calls, after I sit down at my desk, I will meditate for five minutes, after I sit down, after I park my car, I will meditate for five minutes, after I brush my teeth, I'll put my phone away. You see how it's like, how specific can we get so that it's not vague after I get home from work, because there's a lot that can go on, and then there's different motivations that happen. We also talked about celebration, right? If you are not celebrating doing the thing you said you're going to do or thinking about doing it, it makes it very difficult for these habits to stick, because then you're having to operate off of the idea that you need 21 days or 70 days. So an example of why we have to celebrate. We all remember, during the pandemic, depending where you lived, we all had to wear masks to go to the grocery store, right? And then there was that day when we all got the permission we don't need to wear the mask. Hallelujah, right? Don't use the mask. Then, oh crap, you got to wear a mask again. How many times you remember the mask? But you wore it every day for three weeks, for a month, if to me, where you lived, we were in California. We wore those masks for months, right? Soon as you had one day, you have to wear it. What happened a week later when you had to, forgot it? Why? Because your brain hated it. You hated wearing the masks, so your brain despised it. So as soon as you didn't have to remember anymore, you didn't remember it anymore. That's why how you feel about something matters. If you don't like something that you're doing, let's not make a habit around it, right? This is your life. You get to live one of them that we know of, so we may as well enjoy it. We want our life to be a series of habits that we enjoy doing that serve us, right? So that is how, that's experimentation. Lesley Logan 7:53  Now let's say you slayed this. It's going really, really well, and you're like Lesley, I have three other habits I wanted to work on, I want to add into I want to do. So that's where the idea of habit stacking comes from with James Clear. BJ doesn't call it that, but yes, every habit is just a prompt to the next habit, okay. So if you are ready to add another one in, you go back to the beginning. What are all the things that you could do? How easy or hard is it to do? How can I make it as tiny as possible? And then where? What is it coming after? How am I doing this my life? And then we experiment with it. So I would not. I don't recommend practicing one more than one new habit at time when you're new at this. Once you're new, you could practice like, two, maybe three different things, doing physical habits, like, habits that are not, how to explain this, emotional habits you don't like about yourself are really hard. Okay, so that's more advanced. So I wouldn't try adding those in or practicing those until we get really good at like, the more tangible habits, like the workouts you want to do, or the acts or services that you want, the space you need in your calendar, that kind of stuff is a little easier. Things that have to do with emotions, for example, I want to stop talking negatively about myself. Well, that's going to require us to be aware first of when we are starting to talk negatively about ourselves. So I would recommend saving those for when you get a little more advanced. But when you want to add a new habit in, you add one at a time, and you make it as small as possible, okay? And if you thought you made it smaller and you didn't, that didn't work, make it even smaller. Okay? If you really want to do it, make it even smaller. I think it's easy for us overachievers and perfectionists, when we start to hear how easy it is to make a habit, we start to go gung ho on all the different habits we want. I promised you that we would do an episode on how to unravel a habit, and I'll make sure that we actually do get into that in the next episode. So if that's what you want, right into the next episode. Lesley Logan 9:58  But I do want to say, this might be the time as you're trying to create space and prompts for the habits you want, you might be noticing the habits that you don't like. And so all I should do right now is just notice them, take note, because in the next episode, we'll dive into that. But when you are I can't, I find myself, like, wanting to come into your home right now and like, whole like, see what you're doing as far as habits you want to add. Because what I don't want is you try to add a bunch of new things at the same time. So for example, if I actually were to tell you all the little habits that I have that I've created for myself, it might overwhelm you. But some people, it actually makes them go after all that. So I do shake plate, I do run, I do do Pilates. I do have red light masks my face and my neck. I do have a pimp mat. I do have a sauna blanket. These are all like, crazy. I'm gonna sound like I have, like, too many things, and I'm like, but these are all things that make me feel good, right? I bought one at a time, and I made sure I had a habit around it before I bought it. So have you ever, like, bought, like, oh, I bought a gua sha, right, two years ago, gua sha, but I didn't actually plan it accordingly to add it into my busy life. So I've actually struggled tremendously on like, when am I going to gua sha? What is the prompt? What is the thing that I do so that I can gua sha. I have moved the gua sha from the bathroom to the extra bathroom, from the extra bathroom to the shower, from the shower to like, let's move different places. I moved it to my bed. I put the oil in my bed. Like, I've tried all these different things. And I really asked myself, like, do I want this habit? Is this making sense? So before you buy any of the things about a habit you want to have, it's really important for you to explore like, where do I think this could be, and what part of this habit can I practice? How small can I make it before I make this purchase? So I don't buy things that I'm not going to use, so I don't put pressure on myself, because what happens is we have the sunk cost fallacy. We're like, oh my gosh, I spent all this money on this thing. I've got to do it. And then we have stress and shame around that thing. And so then, what does our brain do? Not do it. It doesn't do it right, because it's not even thinking about it. So I would really try to find, like, the things that you're wanting to add into your life, if you are wanting to add in more Pilates, like, how can we make rolling out the Pilates mat or putting out the Pilates clothes? How can we make a habit around something tiny before you invest in the Reformer or the studio membership, things like that? So, I, my team and I talk about, like, stack it like you mean it. It's once you have this ability to make habits at the drop of a hat, because that's what's going to happen, right? When you celebrate, when you make it small, it starts to become a habit, like a dropof a hat. It's really easy to add more in, but before you do that, we have to make sure we've expanded out what we've done. So remember, with my example from the last couple episodes, I want to read more. So after I sit down at breakfast, I pick up the book. So far I've picking up the book. I haven't read the book. I haven't fulfilled the eventual habit, which is, like, I'm going to read this book. This book is going to be coming. I actually read so before I stack another habit, like after I pick up the book, I go, I go to, you know? I go, do I shake plate. I have to, actually, once it gets easier for me to just grab that book without thinking about, with having to remember it, then I can read the book, right? I can read a page. And so maybe the next habit is like, okay, after I sit down for breakfast, I read one page of my book, and when that becomes easier, and I start to realize, oh, I average at five pages, then it could be like, okay, I read for all the entire time having breakfast. Once that becomes easier, then I can stack something else after that book, but I cannot stack anything on top of the book until that habit is set and it's only going to get and it and it's at the place that I want it. So I have to, like, expand it as much as I wanted, because once I stack them on top of it, I have hamstrung the book reading. Right? I can only read the book as long as nothing is coming after it. That could shorten how long I read the book. That makes sense? If you were wanting to run a mile every day, and you're like, okay, after I take off my running shoes, I then stretch for 10 minutes, but you have a time concern when you have to actually get done with your stretching, if you haven't really expanded the running to what you want it to be, putting that next habit on top of it, one, it could it could fail the moment you skip a run. Two, you might not get to a full mile by the time you have to start stretching, and then that's going to affect your ability to feel good about what you're doing. We'll have stress and shame around it. We'll have guilt, we'll have judgment. We won't do it, right? So emotions really do matter. So I want you to understand, like, how do I expand? When am I ready to expand the habit, should feel really natural. And then once that happens, then I can stack on top of it. Until then, I can only stack on things that are already secure and already doing well. And if I stack on them, I have to, one, make sure that I've experimented on the size of the habit that I'm stacking the emotional celebration afterwards that I'm doing before I add another one. So no one is adding, no one is adding more than a couple habits at a time, experimentations at a time. Ideally, you start with one at a time, until you get good at it, then you can do two. I think the max, I would say it would be like three in a week. Lesley Logan 15:39  Your homework is to review that. Notice the habits you're wanting to unravel, because that's gonna be the next episode. And I guess I want to just say, like, notice if there's habits that you're like but Lesley, I really want to change these things about myself. They're a little bit more esoteric, a little bit more in the brain, like we're talking about, like, negative self-talk. Also, just write those down, because we'll talk about those kinds of things in the next episode as well. But they are just a bit more advanced, because you have to actually be able to catch yourself like, oh, there was a negative, negative self-talk moment, and then we can have a habit that we do instead. So those are just some things we'll talk more about that soon. It's going to fit better with the unraveling of a habit, because, again, things that no longer serve us are just habits that we used to think did, and they're doing something in our brain that makes us keep it around, and we have to figure out what's prompting that, what's starting that. How is that? How can we, what control do we have around that? There's so many different things we can talk about. So anyways, this is about, hopefully, that gave you some ideas on how to habit stack, how to make something tiny be more closer to the habit that you want. And most importantly, it takes time becoming like, being it until you see it just takes time. Having habits that you actually want to have in a life you want to have. It's not a light switch, it's it's more like this really fun little heartbeat graph as we practice, and we figure it out, and, oh, we it's the wrong place in the day practice and then it becomes something that actually is sustainable and feels good, and you don't even have to think about it. And all of a sudden, you're like, oh, I read every morning. And people like, when do you do this? How do you do this? And you're like, I just do it right? That's what we want. That's how good a good habit can become. It's something you don't even have to think about. You don't have to think about. You don't have to celebrate anymore, because you just do it. And that is a question I get a lot like, when do I get to stop celebrating when your habit is at the length of time or the intention that you want, and you don't have to you don't have to remind yourself you just picked up the book, you got lost reading. You just put your phone away and you went and you had two hours before bed, three hours before bed without screen time, like when it just becomes so natural, that's when you get to stop celebrating, because it's now a habit and you can add something on top of it. So not stacking habits until you have habits in place, is one of the best ways to having a schedule that really doesn't feel overwhelming, to having a life, to having a life that actually does lead you to where you want to grow. Thank you so much. You guys are so so amazing. How are these working for you? How is the series working for you? I want to know. What habits are you working on? What habit, what wins are you having, I want to celebrate that on our on our FYF episode. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 18:18  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Welcome Natties to episode 117 “Love is Not Blind” Join us straight from Las Vegas, NV on another verbal adventure where we discuss doing a number 2 with the door open, Sweet Derek's recent bad dating experience and struggles with finding love, Kyles past tale of trying to escape out of a bad date and so much more…we promise a wild fun comedy ride for join along! Remember to please like, comment and subscribe! Are you a part of THE Natty Nation? What are you waiting for? Click subscribe!Natties we officially have MERCH! Support us and the podcast by ordering on our website www.thenaturalspod.com Thank you!SocialsUncle Kyle/Pod: @thenaturalspodSweet Derek: @sweetderekproductionsEmail: sweetderekproductions@gmail.com

In this quick FYF, Lesley shares a quirky “wrong party” idea from Priya Parker that's inspiring her next birthday and highlights community wins—from book-writing commitments to double-class teaching to flying abroad to meet a mentor. She also reflects on her own win of saying yes to a friend's idea and letting it grow into a shared adventure worth celebrating.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Priya Parker's “wrong party” idea inspires Lesley's birthday plans.Community wins from book-writing commitments to traveling solo abroad.How saying yes to a friend's idea led to planning a shared trip.How letting ideas expand can create once-in-a-lifetime experiences.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsPriya Parker - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DO9RFzmjrJqThe Art of Gathering by Priya Parker - https://a.co/d/8Wj7Qp0Episode 1: Joanna Vargas - https://beitpod.com/ep1Episode 3: Rob Mack - https://beitpod.com/ep3Episode 5: Amy Ledin - https://beitpod.com/ep5 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. Happy December 12th. Oh my God, if you, if you're listening to this, what you didn't hear is when I started this episode, and I was so proud of my intro, it was so amazing, and I hadn't hit record on the podcast now, so, you know, super fun. We're just taking messy action around here. We are just rolling with it. And I have so many things I'm like, it's like, which win to share? Because got some wins for you. So, but first. we have to do something that inspired me. Hopefully it inspires you. Then some of your wins you've sent in, then a one of mine, then your affirmation. That's the way. That's the episode. It's quick, it's dirty, if you like something longer, like the sound of my voice, I don't know, sometimes I wonder if I feel like I have a sinus infection all the time. Then you can listen to the interview episodes. I hope you do. They're really amazing. And then you can listen to recaps. Also, this month, we're running an entirely different series. We're running the Habit series. I'm really, really excited about it, and I hope that it helps you. So, all right, the thing that inspired me. This I think I'm gonna do okay. So if in January you see me do this and share about my birthday, it's because I did this. And if it inspires you, I would love you to tag me in this. So the, Priya Parker, who has a great book about, like, entertaining and parties, and it's just an incredible book. I've read it many, many times, and I might even listen to it again while we're on this tour, because it's just really, it's like the art of gathering, right? And I'm really big in community, and there's just so many great things about it. But she shares different weird ways that people get together, and this so this invite is called, you got an invite for the wrong party, so you come dressed for the wrong party, meaning you come dressed in a Halloween costume, but it's a birthday party, you come dressed up like it's a funeral, but it's a birthday party, you come dressed up like winning an award or in your wedding dress. I might do that for my birthday. I might wear my own my wedding dress, and then someone could wear that. How fun is this? So I'm kind of obsessed about this, because with all of our tours that we've had, it's been really hard for me to, like, have a birthday party the last couple of years. We just had a lot going on. Just haven't wanted to do it. But now with this, this invite going out, I mean, like, I might do outfit changes, you guys, I'm not even kidding. So if you want to see the video of this, because the visual makes it just, like, even that more amazing, definitely check the show notes. But seriously, if you do this, I want to know, copy me, but this, it's like a choose your own adventure party, like, on on steroids, like just, I don't even, I don't even know how to pick which outfit to wear to the wrong birthday party, but that's what I'm going to do. Lesley Logan 3:13  All right. Your wins. So you guys can send these into the Be It Pod under beitpod.question, beitpod.com/questions wow my brain went faster than my mouth. So send it in. You can send your questions. We answer those on the recap episodes. Of course, these wins. Here we go. Ready? @meganjoypilates, I signed up for a book writing program. That's amazing. Do you I freaking love that, Megan, that you are celebrating that with us, because, like I love that you're celebrating that you signed up for something I love that you're not waiting till you wrote the book. Thank you so much for celebrating this one with us, because that makes it more fun to celebrate like the things that we were like I thought about doing that thing that is a win, right? Okay, @creative_soul_pilates, I was able to cover Pilates classes for a friend. I taught mine and hers so she could have a break without worrying. Her clients love her, and I was able to give them a great class too. That's so cool. What a win. I love that you didn't have imposter syndrome. I love that you showed up, you did it for a friend, and you got something. You had a win out of it. Way to go, babe. And then, @purapilates_yasmin, going out of my comfort zone to travel alone to the UK and meet my amazing mentor, Yasmeen, that was so fun. What a win that was, first of all, like you did, travel to a different country, we got to meet, we got to hang out, but you also stayed with a stranger. It's not a stranger anymore, but just like so many out of the comfort zone things, and it's just, I love that you're celebrating getting outside of your comfort zone. We need to do that more. Who wants to send in their win of them getting out of their comfort zone? Okay, so thank you for sending your wins in. Those are so fun. Send them in. They can be long. They can be short. They don't have to be like, oh my God, I have my biggest launch ever. Like, that's cool, especially if you hit a goal. We rarely hit our goals around here, and I still believe this year is super successful. So a win of mine. Well, I shared with you a win earlier this year where I took a four day weekend before a crazy travel time so I could have time off, and I was really proud of the work that we did so they could have that win, which is having four days with my friend, and while she was here, we were playing our next adventure together. And my win is hearing an idea of what we could do together, and then, like, doing something from episode one, like, literal Episode One, how does it get better than this? How does it get better than this? And so I can't wait to share what this is with you when it comes to fruition. We haven't picked our dates yet. There's a couple things that are we're waiting for, like, essentially, a Pilates piece of equipment has to get released. So I can get that Pilates piece of equipment in my house. Once it's in my house, then I can sell the Pilates equipment that I this is a duplicate of to my friend, and then my friend and I are going to this amazing like Thelma and Louise without the driving-off-the-cliff-part adventure. So I will celebrate many wins with you as I plan that trip. But I just want like, I will say, like, sometimes I'll hear ideas that require a lot more of my time, and my instant fear, like my instant feeling is, how am I going to do that? Do have time to do that? Like, that's my I instant fear, my instant thought. But instead, when, when she mentioned this, I but she mentioned she wanted this piece of equipment, and she's like, how are we going to get it? And then I was like, Well, you guys could road trip. And it was like, well, we could road trip. I'm kind of telling you the thing. And then I was like, oh, and we could do this. And then she's like, well, you could do this. I'm like, how does it get better? We could do this, and we could and all of a sudden it became this incredible adventure. And I didn't let my worry of like, how am I gonna make this happen stop me from just letting it be as big as it can be. And so for my perfectionist and overachievers in this room, I hope that you get to hear an amazing, great idea, and then you get to go and run with it. And if you haven't listened to Episode One, I highly recommend going back. Episode One is so good. Episode Three is amazing. Episode Five is great. Like our beginning catalog, I suck as an interviewer, but the guests are phenomenal. I guess I don't suck. People said I was really good, but, you know, I was being it till I see it on that. So if you want to hear that from where we are now, which is like over episode 600 but that's my win, my win is just like not letting the details and logistics stop me from dreaming super big about once in a lifetime shared experience. Lesley Logan 7:18  So anyways, now it's time for an affirmation. Do you see wins can be anything. It's gonna be anything. Okay. So the affirmation for your weekend is I am growing and I am going at my own pace. I am growing and I am going at my own pace. I am growing and going at my own pace. My loves you are, and there is no race there we there's not like even if you were born in the same day at the same time as somebody else, if you were in different parts of this country, you'd have a different birth chart. So you're on a different pace. You're running your own you're growing at your own version of it, all right? And we want to hear about it. Want to celebrate with you. So send them in to the beitpod.com/questions, share this podcast with a friend who needs to hear it. Share your favorite episode. Leave a review. These things mean a lot to us. They make the world go round, and they make podcasts get better. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 8:12  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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In this second episode of the Habits Series, Lesley breaks down how to actually make a habit stick without rigid streaks or all-or-nothing thinking. She explains why random reminders usually fail and why pairing tiny actions with routines you already do is far more effective. You'll hear how she shrinks a new habit to its smallest doable version and uses in-the-moment celebration to reinforce it.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Understanding why prompts and timers often fail in real-life routines.Mapping your existing routines to identify reliable habit anchors.The importance of making a habit small it's nearly impossible to skip.How to choose one tiny habit and tying it to something you already do.Building emotional safety around the habit before growing it.Episode References/Links:Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/cW2pFicEpisode 568: Anthony Benenati - https://beitpod.com/ep568Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Because celebration creates a dopamine high in your brain. Your brain feeds off of that, and so it starts to remember. Lesley Logan 0:09  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:52  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? Welcome back to our sexy Habits Series. We're bringing sexy back. You know what? We're bringing it back in the habits way, because truly, everything that we want in our life and being it till we see it is just a series of habits that we intentionally put into our lives. And if we don't intentionally do it, then we end up with a bunch of other people's habits or demands and needs or things we think should be doing, and we wonder why our life is miserable or it's not what we want, or we're exhausted or burnt out. And so this is the second episode on series, and we're going to dig into what we talked about in the last one. So I will say, normally, I joke around saying, if you haven't listened to the first one, you can listen to this and then go back. No, go, listen to the first one. It's right below. Sometimes this, in your feed, sometimes it can be really hard. If you're on the OPC app, or Profitable Pilates app, it's easier to find. On Apple, you have to, like, go to the show and then find it. But anyways, you want to do this whole series, has one thing, okay, starting from the beginning, I know we like to skip ahead, but you know. Lesley Logan 1:52  So, I'm gonna do a little review of what we talked about in the last episode. Was just that, like, there is no such thing as a bad habit. There are habits that maybe no longer serve us, which we we talk a little bit like what serves you in the Anthony Benenati episode, so feel free to check that out. But all, everything that we have as habits is telling our brain something that feels good, because our brain is actually running away from shame and guilt and stress into things that actually make us feel good. So even if you don't like something you think it stresses you out. There's something that it's giving you that is why you keep going after it. Okay? Lesley Logan 2:25  So, the other thing we did was we actually talked about how you need, like, something you need to do before you can actually add a habit to your life, which is, get really clear on what you want. So for the example we used, I said I wanted to read more. Then we put up a bunch of ideas on how I could read more. And then we did a little procedure we figured out on a scale of want to do, don't want to do, hard to do, easy to do. And we came up with a few ideas, right? So get your sheet out, because that's what we're going to use for this next episode. And we're going to we're going to do one habit at a time. So we're also going to talk about how to add a habit into your life. And we're also going to go about why prompts don't work. And I talked about something a little bit in the first episode, and I'm going to reiterate why it's important to do it in here. So, before we can go back to our piece of paper, of the quadrants, I think it's best to talk about right now, like where habits can go in your life. So I mentioned that there's things that we do automatically every day, how we wake up in the morning. That's a habit. What we do after we take our first step, second step, like, in what order do you go the bathroom, brush your teeth, wash your face, whatever those things are that you do, right, when you get your coffee. There are things that we do naturally. Why is that important? Because in the in the studies of behaviors and habits, BJ Fogg found, and this is proven by a lot of companies, prompts like dings, don't help, because we actually tend to ignore it. So your phone going take your medicine, right? If your medicine is right there, it's easy for you to do the prompt, but if your medicine is not there, you ignore it. And once you ignore it one time, it's actually really easy to ignore the second time, and all of a sudden you've just been ignoring it for weeks. I have reminders on my phone from a year ago that I just ignore, like I don't even know, I don't delete it, but like, it's now a habit to just ignore it. So prompts only work if you're actually in the place to do the thing that you said you would do. Now, look, I understand people like, oh, I do the Pomodoro method, Lesley, when the bell goes off, I easily switch. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about like you are, you have a timer going off to go for a run, but you're stuck in a meeting, right? We want to make sure that whatever prompts you have, like, we don't want to set you up for a failure, where you have prompts to do something and then you could possibly not be able to do the thing, to ignore the prompt. We don't want that. So in the last episode, I talked about like, scheduling in time to read. That's an easy habit. I want to do it. Why won't that work?Lesley Logan 5:05  Well, one, my schedule changes every single week, so I'm gonna have to do this regularly. It's gonna happen. I'm actually gonna have to make it a habit to go to my schedule and add this in. But, two, if the prompt goes off that it's time for me to read and I don't have my book with me, it's so easy for me to ignore that prompt that it becomes a thing in my schedule I don't even look at, right? So we don't that's not a perfect habit for me to have. There was another one that set a timer to read for 20 minutes. That can work as long as the habit of grabbing the book is already in place, having it go for 20 minutes might help me, my brain not go, Oh, my God, I have to be somewhere like it might having a timer might actually calm my brain to actually do the reading. But that would be another habit I have to create is to set the timer on top of the book. So it's not gonna be the easiest thing for a habit person to do, right? To make a habit around. So, so prompts are anything that you put that's gonna be a prompt to do the thing you want to do. I'm going to encourage you to think not about that and not use that, because I I don't want it to be your phone prompting you. What if your phone's not around when that prompt goes off? So there's, see how it's easy for this to fail. So going back to we already naturally do things. So this is how we're going to create habits. This is the key to the kingdom. This, if you get nothing else from this habit series, this is the thing. There are things we naturally do, typically around morning, afternoon and evening, typically around meals, where we wake up, we go to bed. So I mentioned I wanted you to observe what you do every day during the day, so in the morning, what are the things you naturally do? Remember in the first episode, I said, oh, I want to add a cold plunge when I'm going to do it my day. So I went through my day and I sort of go, okay, the cold plunge, first of all, it's important to know where the cold plunge is. It is in the back of my house, right? So it's near my bedroom. It's not in my bedroom, it's near my bedroom. It's in the same room that I do my makeup. It's the same room that my hats are, my accessories, all that stuff is there. Okay? It's this extra bathroom. So I in the morning, I get up before the cold plunge would happen, I would get up, go to the bathroom, put on some sunscreen and grab my allergy medicine, drink some water, take the dog for a walk, right? After the dog walk, I come back, I would make my coffee, make his breakfast. I used to have a little extra, like nutritious drink in there. Do that. Then I would do my Pilates. Then after my Pilates, I would make some breakfast, and then I would go into the shower, then I get ready for the day, then I do my makeup, then I sit down on my desk, right? So that's my morning. So you can hear there's like, some things that I do, like naturally we, those of us who drink coffee, we drink we don't even go there's no time or going up time to make my coffee. And back to my prompts example, like you don't have that you just naturally do it, right? There's no time you're going up when it's time to floss your teeth. You just do it after you brush your teeth. So same thing around lunchtime. What do I do around the middle of the day? Well, after I finish my last thing before my lunch break, I get up, I go in the kitchen, I make my lunch, I sit down at the table. After I'm done with my lunch. Then I typically go back to work, right? And then after work, I do blah, blah, blah, blah. And then before bed, it looks like walking the dog, taking a shower and putting my phone on the charger, going to sleep. Okay, so that might be what you write down. So I want you to take a piece of paper and just like start to write down all the things you just down all the things you just do automatically, okay, and the morning, afternoon, evening. Once you know this, then it makes it easier for us to go, okay, well, when are we going to add something in? So to add the cold plunge, and I can look, well, where can the cold plunge be? It definitely doesn't fit once I've gotten ready for the day, and I don't want to cold plunge before bed, so it has to happen before I get ready, before I get ready for the day. Okay, so then I can actually start to play with, okay, so is it after I go to the bathroom I can go for the cold plunge? Is it after the dog walk that I go for the cold plunge? That's where I can play with it, right? Something I got it when I got a shake plate, I had to do this, like, when am I gonna do this shake plate thing? It's like, okay, should I do it after I go to the gym? Should I do it after a dog walk? So you kind of want to put it somewhere where you already are doing something that you already easily do. No problems. You never miss. Okay? After, here, after, I'm gonna say, after a lot, okay, so once you have figured out a places where the new habit can go. So for my example, I want to read more. And I said it might be easy, and I want to do is to read a book at breakfast. So basically, I have to think about like, where do I have my breakfast? I have my breakfast at the kitchen table. So after I sit down at the kitchen table, I will pick up my book. Notice how I didn't say I'd read my book. We'll talk about that in a little bit, but I'll pick up my book. So that can be that's where I can have the habit, because I'm trying that one out. Another one I said I would try out is I'd read when I play a video game, which means I have to think about when I'm playing my video game, all right. And to be honest, I could absolutely replace reading with playing my video game when I'm on, when I'm just, when I'm not, like, in a car, I can go, oh, when I'm in a car, like my video game, but when I'm at home, right? This one's a little harder, because I don't actually have a set time that I do it. It's just something that I do. So that's going to be a bit more advanced, and I'm just going to put that one, I'm going to table that one for right now. And then I said I would set a timer for 20 minutes. That's more of a remember, I have to have a habit to do the habit. So what I can do for right now is just put, let's just focus on reading at the breakfast reading while I have breakfast, okay. Lesley Logan 11:08  So now that I have my idea of what the habit is, I'm going to try to create, which is I'm settled on, pretty sure it's going to be reading at breakfast. Now I have to make the habit really small. So you heard me specifically say, Okay, I'm going to after I sit down to have breakfast, I will pick up my book, because right now I don't have the habit of reading at breakfast, so I cannot go after I sit down, I'm going to read my book for 20 minutes. That is a lot. I'm not used to doing that. I might not even be aware of all the different things I kind of do during breakfast. Like, if I think about it, sometimes I'm having breakfast and I'm talking to a girlfriend. Sometimes I'm having breakfast. I'm also like, getting by on a snack. Like, and like, because I think I sit down and I just like, hang out at breakfast. I think this is a good time, but I have to test it. I have to experiment with it. So I have to make it very small. I pick up my book this way I can actually have an achievable goal. One of the reasons why so many people struggle with building habits is they make it too big. So a lot of you are like, oh, I want to have better sleep, so I'm not going to use I'm not going to look at my screen two hours before bed, right? But two hours before bed, what if you usually are checking the email and setting alarms and sending texts to friends, and there's a lot of different things, and you don't have anything else that you're doing. So what if that tonight you actually, an hour before bed, then don't check your phone, you feel like a failure because you said you wouldn't do it for two hours, and you only did it for an hour. In that case, I would say, I, you know, after I brush my teeth, to go to bed, I put my phone away, right, so that, like, there's a set prompt that's physical, that's already a habit, you have to put your phone away. And then as I get stronger, maybe it's after I have dinner, I put my phone away, or after I start making dinner, I put my phone away. Do you see how we can like, we can have a better prompt, but we want to make it as small as possible so it could be achievable and we can celebrate ourselves. Okay? So that's the habit I'm going to work on this week is after I sit down for breakfast, I'm going to pick up my book. Okay? Lesley Logan 13:20  I want this week to be your practice. So between now and our next episode on habits, we'll have an FYF, and then we'll have an episode about habit stacking, because I know a lot of you want to work on more than one habit at a time. We'll talk about that next week. But between now and then, while you're experimenting, here's the other thing you have to do. So one, you make it really small, tiny, tiny, tiny. Two, you have to celebrate. You have to celebrate that you did it. So after I sit down to have breakfast, I pick up my book, and then I'm going to say I'm amazing, or I'm going to high five myself, or I'm going to jump up and down, or I'm going to play my favorite song, or I'm going to tell, tell, text my friend. Oh, my God, you won't believe this, I picked up my book I said I was going to read, right? I have to celebrate. If I sit down, start eating my breakfast, almost finish and go, oh, oh, my God, I forgot. I'm supposed to grab my book. I'm going to celebrate that I remembered it. And if I can do it, I will grab my book. Why do we need to do this? Because celebration creates a dopamine high in your brain. Your brain feeds off of that, and so it starts to remember. Every time I pick up a book, I feel good about myself. So I am going to remember to pick up this book because after I picked up this book, I felt really good about myself. After I remembered this book, I felt really good about myself. So when you celebrate, thinking about doing the habit, or actually doing the habit, and you celebrate, you are well on your way to creating a habit. They do not take 21 days. They take a dopamine high. They take an emotional good feeling. That's what they take, okay, so already, like, I'm like, so excited. go pick up a book I get, my brain is like, where is this book? What's so, what's so cool about this is when you do it like this, when it's not from a timer and it's not out of all or nothing, oh my God, I picked up my book, but I couldn't read for 20 minutes like I said, I would I only read for 10, I'm such a loser, that actually stresses the brain out, makes the brain go I don't even want to look at the book. You won't even see the book at the table, because your brain is like, I don't want to see that, because it makes me feel bad about myself, and I don't want to feel bad at myself. But when you actually celebrate it, your brain starts to see all the different times you can read a book. So here's what happens, right? What will happen is, I won't just be reading the book at breakfast. I'm going to start reading books twice, two different times during the day, because my brain is going to be seeking out opportunities for me to read my book, to pick up my book, but notice how I said I'm going to practice this week, just picking up my book and celebrating that. So if you want to make coffee for two, maybe the habit is just putting two cups on the counter, right? If you want to move your body more. Maybe the habit is putting on the running shoes or setting out the clothes to go to the gym or picking the workout you would have done. You know, we tell OPC members like if you're not used to being consistent with a Pilates practice, maybe the habit is just logging in and pressing play. Anything you do after that habit is extra credit. Okay? So, extra credit. If all I do this whole week at breakfast is pick up the book, I have done my job, I get to celebrate. Okay? So I think that that is a good spot for us to leave today. So think about the different ways you like to celebrate if you're struggling with the celebration part, my perfectionist, because it's something so small and who cares? BJ Fogg does have like, 100 different ways you can celebrate, and he has a really cool thing in his book on how to figure out which ways you would like to celebrate you've got kids. It's so easy because you can just go high five, I picked up a book, and it's like I picked up a book, like, we can all create a habit picking a book, right? So you you can do it with them. But some of us need like it to be verb, like auditory. We hear it. Some of us need to like move our body in celebration. Some of us need to play a song. Do not go if I do this all week long, then I have a reward. That's not how habits are created. Doesn't work that way. Has to be in the moment. Has to be something great, okay, something that makes you feel really, really good. So want you to practice that this week. We'll come back next week and we'll dive into how to stack another habit on top of this, and how to expand the habits that you are basically growing here, right? Like, what comes next? How do I know that we can, you know, go from just picking up the book to opening up the page. When does that happen? So we'll go into that more in the next episode. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Oh, but also, I want to know what habit you're working on. What are you practicing on? DM me, a DM to Be It Pod or tag me so I can celebrate you, right? Like it's really helpful when other people are cheering you on as well, to cheer yourself on. Thank you so much. Have an amazing day. Lesley Logan 18:03  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Lesley Logan launches a new Habits Series and explains why habits are secretly the sexiest part of your success. She breaks down what habits actually are, how they shape more of your life than you realize, and why they matter more than motivation. Using real examples from her own routines, she shows how habits make space for goals, love, and the energy you want. Plus she shares a simple exercise to start noticing which habits are truly supporting you.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How subconscious habits shaped daily actions without conscious effort.Why rigid habit stacking often backfired for perfectionists.How goals became a series of small, repeatable habit steps.How pouring coffee for two helped her make space for a partner.A paper exercise for mapping doable habits that fit real life.Episode References/Links:Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/cW2pFicEpisode 568: Anthony Benenati - https://beitpod.com/ep568Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsLesley Logan launches a new Habits Series and explains why habits are secretly the sexiest part of your success. She breaks down what habits actually are, how they shape more of your life than you realize, and why they matter more than motivation. Using real examples from her own routines, she shows how habits make space for goals, love, and the energy you want. Plus she shares a simple exercise to start noticing which habits are truly supporting you.In this episode you will learn about:How subconscious habits shaped daily actions without conscious effort.Why rigid habit stacking often backfired for perfectionists.How goals became a series of small, repeatable habit steps.How pouring coffee for two helped her make space for a partner.A paper exercise for mapping doable habits that fit real life.Episode References/Links:Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/cW2pFicEpisode 568: Anthony Benenati - https://beitpod.com/ep568Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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And I know you're like, habits? But habits are sexy. Habits are cool. We're going to make habits sexy. Lesley Logan 0:07  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:47  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? We are doing a new series. You know, usually we do interviews and recaps, but for the next few weeks, it's going to be about habits. And I know you're like, habits? But habits are sexy. Habits are cool. We're gonna make habits sexy. Wouldn't it be so fun if we could, like, have the song, I'm bringing sexy back, but, like, I'm bringing habits back. Anyways, the reality is, is that I wanted to have a series that we could just refer back to anytime you need to dive into a habit you want to create. I think a lot of our guests are of inspiring stories. And if you haven't noticed, the reason they get to do the things that they do, the reason they were able to be it till they see it is actually because of the habits that they have created for themselves. And so I wanted to, anytime you hear, like, anyone bring up a habit. If you're like, oh my God, if that's like this thing, like, I gotta work on that, or there's habits I don't like. I wanted us just to have, like a series we could to point you to so that would be really helpful. You can revisit this as much as you want, and hopefully some of this will be reminder. Some of this I've brought up, like little bits and pieces, but I also just wanted to have like, a actual story of, like, how habits are really created. So each episode is going to be a mini, mini work, mini, M-I-N-I, mini workshop on how habits are created, and each episode will kind of like, go deeper and deeper and deeper. So my hope is that you can practice this and do this on your own. Lesley Logan 2:09  First of all, what are habits? So, like, you'd be surprised how many habits you have. I think a lot of us think like, oh, I want to have a habit of walking every day. So you actually have tons of habits. You have habits about like, how you open your phone, habits you don't like about yourself. But habits are just basically the things you do regularly, often without thinking about them, that happen, hopefully, on a on a subconscious level, because, my God, our brains will be exhausted if we don't think about them all the time. But they are your entire day, your weeks, your year is built on a bunch of habits that you have, whether you intentionally created them or you didn't. And it's actually much easier to create a habit than you think. I grew up thinking that habits take 21 days. It takes 21 days to build a habit. And then I saw something that's like, 90 days. Oh my gosh. And then I've heard things like 75 hard. And it's like, you do this stuff for 75 days. And the truth is, is that you're usually, from some of those things, you're so tired of working on the habit you don't even want to deal with the habit anymore. Some people create try to create habits by signing up for a race, so then they have to run, and then that will help them create a habit of running. No, it won't. Once the race is over, if you don't have another race signed up for you, you're unlikely to create the habit because you didn't actually do the steps to create the habit. But a lot of us have habits we don't like some of us who read our phones. Read our phones before bed because they create we go to our email we find relief because there's nothing to work on. So we go, okay, and then we have this habit that we check our emails right before bed because it gave us relief, right, or certainty or dopamine hits. And so all the stuff I study on habits, the things that I love the most have come from the book Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg. And I got to study with his program years and years ago, and I studied with him on purpose because I actually really like the way that he breaks it down. And he is also the person that the founders of Instagram studied with. Remember the beginnings of the IG way back when I took three steps to actually post a picture and start getting a dopamine hit, three steps. Now, there's a bunch of other things you have to do and but like, I'll be honest, I'll post something, and then I go and check and see, like, how's it doing? Because it's a dopamine hit, right? It's a habit that I don't love, that I have, right? So habits are just the things that we do that build up our day, that allow us to have reached the goals we want to have or not. If you have a goal in your life, there's things you want to do. If you don't have habits that support that, you won't do it. I can promise you that right now. There's also an ideal schedule that has to go away with it. But truthfully, like, that's how it is. You know, I'm like, I'm 42 at the time I'm recording this. Like, perimenopause symptoms have arrived, and so one of the things that I have been working really hard on is my sleep. Just because I have a goal of working my sleep doesn't mean I'm going to achieve it unless the habits around my life support the goal of sleeping right, the goal of good sleep. So I share that with you, because what are your habits? Your habits are all the things that you're doing. That will either help you reach your goals or won't. So what aren't habits? Well, there's no such thing as a bad habit. I know, I know we were raised with like, oh, you have a really bad habit. Like you like, you chew on your nails. It's a really bad habit or you eat at your desk. It's a really bad habit. Nope, if you haven't listened to the episode with Anthony Benenati, we're talking about good and bad, certain things serve you at the time that you're doing them. Some people might it might be bad for some person, but it might not be bad for you. It might actually be serving a good purpose for you, and then at some point it doesn't. And so when a habit is something you no longer want, we have to unravel it. We'll do an episode on how to unravel a habit you no longer want, but you can't break a bad habit. Habits are not like a ruler or a stick, right? They are a web. And as we go through how to create habits that that really stick, and habits that you want to have in your life, you need to understand that, like all habits are like a web that we weave. In fact, when we if we were to take a 30,000 foot view on our life, or on just a day, we would actually see just like how a web of our day works, how some things are so dependent on other things, and if one thing goes off, then the domino effect doesn't go. Lesley Logan 6:16  There's a lot of people who like talk about habit stacking. I will get into that in a little bit, but it's so important that you actually, for my perfectionists and my overachievers, that we don't focus on habit stacking just yet, because that is when the domino doesn't hit, then the rest of the things fall, like don't fall right? And so then a whole day could be ruined. And so I really want to give you support around building habits that you want to have, to create the life that you want to live, to be it till you see it without having some sort of like domino that if it doesn't go, then the rest of the habits don't go. I want to teach you how you can create habits where, if we take one of them away, the rest of them could still happen, right? So for example, when I travel, my morning routine looks different than when I'm home. A lot of people, when they travel, nothing, nothing looks the same, except for breakfast. I mean brushing their teeth. But for me, I still go for my walks. I still work out they might not be as long there's no dog oftentimes. But like most, there's a lot of different things that I can do. So we'll get into an episode of how I can make my habits malleable for when I travel. But if I had such strict strictness around the habit stacking, this happens and this happens and this happens. It's quite possible that I don't have the tools in my brain and body to make habits go and that's gonna become more clear as a more clear as they go through things. So I just want to say like, I'm more, I'm specifically following like, the Tiny Habits book. So if you want to read into this more, that is the one that I would suggest for you. And I also want to say like, please, please, please, please. As you go through this, you're going to be tempted to want to try three things at once, three habits at once. Stack them, because you've heard James Clear say that, or other experts say that. And I'm going to tell you, for my perfectionist and over achievers, my recovering perfectionist, that is just going to create an all or nothing mindset. It's going to make it very difficult for you to make these malleable and grow them with the life that you have, because our lives are different every single day. Okay, also, we've heard, we've heard the saying like, tomorrow morning's great day starts with with last night, a good last night, right? But it's true, tomorrow the success for your morning actually will start often start on last night's habits. You know, if I want to be able to get up every morning and have an amazing morning routine, but I'm constantly on my screen at night, and like, not going to bed at the time that I wanted to, I'm going to wake up exhausted, might even have to hit snooze, and therefore, I start to affect what habits I actually have time for in the morning. So everything we do really does matter, right, all the things that we have in our life. So one of the episodes is going to have you, like, really thinking about the things that you do in your day, like being mindful. Like, when? What do you do when you wake up? Where do you put your feet? What do you do next? What do you do after that? What do you do after that? Right? Like, for me, I sit up, I grab my phone, I grab my water bottle, and I walk directly into our extra bathroom to get in the cold plunge, right? That's what I do. And then, from my cold plunge, I do the next thing I do the next thing, right? So notice what you do. When we bought the cold plunge, I think about, what am I going to do? What am I going to add this in? Right? Where is it going to best fit? We'll talk more about that in the upcoming episode about starting new habits, but just start to notice the habits you have, the ones you like, and the ones that you don't like, because it's going to make a difference. Okay? Lesley Logan 9:41  So the other thing I want to address in today's episode, because habits are sexy. A lot of you have goals, lots of goals, and goals are really a series of habits. If you want to leave a job, the habits of filling the applications, networking, dressing for the job you want that, those are all habits we need to have, right? If you're like, I need a new job. But you're not, you don't have any habits around, like, maybe you work at a coffee shop and you really, really want to be working for a fashion company. Well, maybe you have a uniform at the coffee shops and you're like, I can't dress for that, Lesley, okay, but what do you do when you leave the coffee shop? What are you doing habit-wise, to dress or be the person that is going to have that fashion job. What? What networking events are you going to? Those like, what are you what are you practicing saying at those networking events to get the job you want? All those are series of habits, right? Having the diligence and time to sit down and fill out applications or review jobs like those are a series of habits so easy to place those with other habits we don't like about ourselves, like scrolling, but remember, habits we don't like are giving us something, there's something positive it's giving your brain. If you want to make more space for a partner in your life, habits are how you get there. In fact, I'll tell you the story. You probably have heard it a couple times, but I'll tell you I was really busy when I met Brad, like I had to be busy because I needed to make money. I was paying my own bills for the first time, all of the bills, for the first time in a long time, like I paid, like, a small amount of rent with my last partner. I had a lot of gas payment and a lot of gas bills, and from a lot of time on and traffic, but I went from like, paying maybe $700 a month to paying $1,700 a month, plus, like, paying full electric bills and gas bills all that stuff. Like, it was just a lot of money all at once. And you know, when you move into something, you're like, I have to have a first month's payment, last month's payment. I had to buy new car, it's a whole thing. So I was working six days a week, like 12, 14-hour days that also included my workouts. So, but I wanted to, I wanted to meet someone. And so if I want to meet someone, I have to have habits that allow my life to have space for a partner. So one of the habits I did was I poured coffee for two people. I poured coffee for two people because I was like, one, I want to meet someone who likes to drink coffee in the morning. Two, I'd love to make coffee for them in the morning. That's like, one thing I can do even when I'm busy, right? And and then that so I had so I started the habit before I had the partner. I also made sure that I always said no to anything on Thursday nights, um, until last minute, unless it was a date, because it's like Thursday nights is gonna be my date night. That's my habit for my date night so I can meet someone, so I can have a partner, right? So if you want to have something in your life, you have to make room for it. And the habits that you have have to support what that is. If I'm saying I want to have a life partner, but I am saying yes to hanging out with friends or doing other things on the one night that I could actually go out with someone, I'm not making space. How am I going to meet someone if I want to have a partner in my life but I actually don't have any way of like, if there's nothing in my life that would allow a partner to be part of it, then that partner is not going to last very long, right? So you have to have habits. You have to start creating habits around the things that you want. Now that's part of being it till you see it. In fact, you can use habits to be it till you see it very easily every single day. Lesley Logan 12:57  Habits do, I think, get a bad rap because I think a lot of people get a little rigid in their habits. And if that's you, I'm hopeful that this series will help you understand, like, how you can change or recreate the habit so they can be a little bit more malleable, so you can go on trips. There are some people who like it has to be a certain way and and I will say, like, obviously, if this is a condition, like an OCD condition, or or something like that, like, please seek out professional help. But for a lot of people, that isn't the case, but they're really rigid around their habits because they don't trust themselves. And so I would, I would, hopefully, the series allows you to kind of take a look at the habits you have and make sure you still want them. Sometimes we keep habits around, not because they're serving us, but because we've always been doing them, right? And that's that's not exactly what we want to be doing. We want to make sure that our habits are things that we want in our lives, that they do serve us. And so evaluating our habits and how they serve us is really, really important thing for us to be doing. So I already said it, but yes, habits are sexy. Lesley Logan 14:02  So before I wrap this episode up, I actually want to talk about how the first step in creating a habit, because I want you to do it. Want you to practice this before our next episode. So the first step in creating habits is knowing what we want to create. So I want you to grab a piece of paper. Right? Scrap piece of paper, and I want you to put on the center of the paper something you wish you did more of. So I'll give you some ideas. Maybe you want more sleep, or maybe you want to work out more or maybe you want to have more energy. The more specific it can be, the better. Maybe you want a partner. Maybe you want to have, maybe you need a dog, maybe, oh, please adopt one. Please don't buy one. Just go adopt it. Maybe you want to run a marathon, or maybe you want to have, want to spend more time outdoors, maybe you want to get a new job, maybe you want to start a new business. I'll tell you my habit, and we'll use as an example. So I want to get back into reading more books the old school way. So I listen to a lot of books on on Audible, and I like that. But I actually, really do believe that I retain more when I read a book, like my finger running across the page, my eyes seeing it like I just I often kind of like I can hear it in my head as I'm reading it. I retain a lot more information. So I had this goal at the end of the year, 25 books in 2025. And I allowed myself for the some of those books to be on Audible. So I'm not saying that they aren't there, but I am realizing that, like, I haven't read a full paper or or hardcover book yet this year, at the time I'm recording this, and it's July, so we're in the month, seventh month of the year, and so my wish to read more and make it a mixture is not happening yet, and that's because the habits aren't there. So I am definitely, you know, well, on my way to hitting the number of books I wanted, but not in the way that I was hoping to have a blend. So on this other paper, I'm going to have read more physical books, okay? And then around the goal, to put a circle around it, around the goal, you're gonna put down all the different ways that you think right now you could achieve that goal. So again, maybe your goal is getting more sleep, maybe your goal is getting a new job, whatever it is, my goal is reading more books, all right, so then I can so I'm gonna put different things around it. So I have have a book on my nightstand. Like, just have a book there, like, right on my nightstand. So, like, as soon as I get in bed, I could read the book. I could schedule a time to read, right? I could put it in my calendar. I could read while I'm eating my breakfast or my lunch, instead of what I'm doing, which is probably something on my phone. I can read instead of playing a video game. Some people are always surprised that I play one. I do play a video game, usually when we're second, like on the road, on a plane, I just have one game that I play, and it's just really, you know, it's kind of like a nice way of letting my mind settle on some things. But maybe there are some of the times that I play this game that I could be reading instead. So I have to evaluate that, right? I could join a book club, so maybe I'll be better at joining a book club. It's kind of like the runners like saying it for a race, though. I could get the Libby app right, and maybe instead of it having to be a physical book, maybe it can be on my iPad and I could read it that way. I could set a timer when I read and make sure that I'm reading for 20 minutes. So what are some other things? So you're just brain dumping, like there's no bad ideas on a brainstorm. You're just putting all the ideas on on one page. Okay? Then you're going to take out another piece of paper. So this is the last thing we're going to do today in this episode. You're going to take out another piece of paper, and you're going to draw a vertical line and a horizontal line, so you'll have four quadrants right? And on the vertical line, I want, want to do, at the top, and on the bottom, it's going to say, don't want to do. And then on the horizontal line, on the right, it's going to say easy to do. So it's effort right? And then it's on the left side, it's going to say hard to do, and you're going to take each idea and go easy to do, hard to do, right? Where is it on that line? And then want to do it, don't want to do it. Okay? So have a look at my nightstand. Well, that is pretty easy to do. Okay? In fact, there's one there right now want to do or don't want to do, I would say I want to do it, but it's not really like the time I like. So for right now, I'm going to put that kind of around the bottom of the want to do. So it's not in the upper hand right quadrant, right now, it's not there. Okay? Another example, schedule a time to read. Well, that's easy to do. Do I want to do it. I think I do. I think maybe if I just like, put it in my schedule that so I'm going to put that in there. Okay, we'll talk about why that might not be a great idea in a future episode. But for right now, it's going to go in there. Okay, read breakfast, read at breakfast or lunch, the easy to do or hard to do. At breakfast, it's easy to do at lunch, it's actually hard to do. So I'm gonna break that up into read at breakfast. So read at breakfast easy to do, and then do I want to do it? I think so I think if I start the day. So I'm gonna put that up in the upper hand. So I got two things in the upper hand, right, right quadrant. Join a book club that is actually hard to do, right? Like that's that is difficult to find a group that likes the books that I like that also as at a time I can go. So it's hard to do. So even though I want to do it, it's over on the upper hand left. Read instead of playing a video game, I think that that's actually kind of easy-ish to do. It would require me unraveling the video game habit. So I'd have to work. I have to look at that and I want to do it. Yeah, I'd say I want to do it. So we'll put that up there. Okay, so we got three things. Upper hand, right quadrant. Get the Libby app easy do or hard do. Easy to do. Got it. Do I want to read on the Libby app right now? That's a no, so I'm gonna put it in the don't want to do. Set a timer to read for 20 minutes. Easy to do or hard do. Easy to do. Do I want to do it? Yeah, maybe I want to do it. Okay? So put those up there. So your turn, right? I want you to do the same thing. And so now that you've heard you can have ideas that don't sound great to you. Can you go back and add more things? Because sometimes we add things we don't like, it comes up with ideas that we do like, or things that are outside of the box that we wouldn't have normally thought about, or outside the realm of possibilities. Because you're, you're, I'm not going to try all these things at one time, but I'm gonna explain how we're going to break this down in the next episode. But for now, your homework is to think of one thing you want, brainstorm all the different ways you could do it, and then put it on a scale of easy, hard and want to do, don't want to do. Lesley Logan 20:52  If you do this, take a picture of it. Tag the Be It Pod. Tag me on Instagram. I would love to see it and celebrate you. You'll find out how important celebration is as we go through these episodes, and if you like the this idea of doing a topic or a series, please let us know if there's any series that you want. You can also send your questions and your wins into beitpod.com/questions. All right, thank you so much, and you know what to do, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 21:18  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 22:00  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 22:06  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 22:10  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 22:16  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 22:20  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley shares a powerful reminder from Māori culture about honoring people in their own time and space — including yourself — and why this perspective can shift how you move through the world. She celebrates meaningful wins from OPC members and opens up about how changing her recording schedule completely transformed her tour experience this year. It's a gentle nudge to reflect, reset, and make space for the version of you that's growing right now.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:What takiwātanga revealed about honoring people in their own timing.How Māori values uplift neurodiversity with dignity and respect.Wins from OPC members showing strength, consistency, and body awareness.Why recording months early transformed Lesley's tour experience.How reflecting on last year's setbacks helped her build a better schedule.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsLife on the Spectrum - https://www.instagram.com/p/DKFvUjjOyJt If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:05  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:44  Hey, Be It babe. How are you? My God, it's December 5. This is crazy. This year is going wild. This is your Fuck Yeah Friday, because we got to celebrate Fridays together. And I really love doing these short and sweet episodes. I hope you love them too. I would love to know you. You gotta let us know, and you can send your wins in or your questions in your feedback beitpod.com/questions. Lesley Logan 1:07  So today's episode is quick. I give you something that inspired me from the interwebs, which you know can be a weird place. Then I share something that you sent me, and then I share a win of mine. So here we go. So this one is from the Maori culture, and I hope I said that, it's, it's a hard word for me to say, Maori culture, so I apologize if I said that wrong. In Maori culture, autism is known as, and this is, I'm going to say not correctly, but we're going to go for it. Takiwātanga, meaning, in their own space and time, in their own time and space. And this is powerful world reflects a worldview that honors neurodiversity, seeing each person's way of being as valid, dignified and deserving of respect. Rather than focusing on deficits, takiwātanga encourages inclusion, understanding the belief that everyone experiences life in at their own pace, in their own unique way. And then the post says, Let's embrace perspectives rooted in respect, mana, which means inherent dignity and whanaungatanga, relationships. I'm sorry I've definitely butchered that one, but I hope that you are as inspired as I am, because I actually really appreciate this. I think it's really easy in our culture, especially right now, to be thinking of people who are different than us as having less or we need to fix that or change that. And I just think it's a beautiful thing, like in their own space and time, and their own time and space. Not only should they have that, but we should be giving ourselves all of that. And I just think that that word is beautiful, and I hope that that inspires you to think of yourself and anyone else in your life who is autistic as as being unique. And then, instead of focusing on deficits, focusing on like their their unique person. I hope that we can do that. I think if you're listening to this podcast, you probably are someone who does, who generally tries to be respectful of others, but it is hard, right? It's so hard, especially when people get confused or people get misinformation. And so I hope that that gives you a little inspiration, and it's just like, oh, what a food for thought. I love that. Lesley Logan 3:18  Okay, now your wins. You guys sent me a bunch, so we're gonna go with a couple of them. Here we go. @denisestargazer, my QL is getting stronger and my side bends are finally deep. I love that so much for you. Yeah, it's, like, Pilates is so good. It balances and balances. Someone else could have really overworking QLs, right? And so it's so I love that you got to feel that for your body and get something deep out of it. Peter does Pilates. Had my run scheduled, did not want to go at all. Did 95% of what was scheduled. You know what? I love that. At OPC, we always say like finishing is optional. I think it's really important that one, we're always listening to ourselves. Gotta listen to our bodies. But also it was scheduled, so sometimes it's once you get going, it's like, okay, I can do this. And 95% it's amazing. Like we're celebrating. Okay. One more, @etain.pilates. My teacher didn't have to adjust my legs in prone for Swan, like she does every week. Way to go. Insane. It sounds like your body is starting to connect the dots and not need to be reminded. You know, I love that sometimes people are like, always checklisting in their Pilates practice, like, did I do this? Did I do that? Did I do this? And it's like the goal is that your body does it on its own. All right, you can send your wins in. I love sharing them. Some of them are short, some of them are sweet, some of them are long. I don't care. Bring them in. You want to hear your wins on the show. Here's why, because at some point you're gonna have a crappy Friday, and then hearing a win that you sent me is gonna remind you of something you did do, and that is worth celebrating. Lesley Logan 4:53  All right, my win. So we're on tour right now, and my win is getting to tour, and being so well rested, so prepared, having filmed everything early, and I'm not going, we're going on tour, and I had, I'm going to come back to being behind on my work, like, I'm just so grateful. Look, this was a team effort. This was a year and a half in the making. You've heard me talk about this. I brought a win like this up in the past, but truly, it just keeps getting better. And one of the ways it keeps getting better, and I'll share, I'll share with you how this win came to be. So after everything that we do, we always reflect back on, like, was that good? Is that something we do again? And I am constantly like, reflecting on, how did I feel on that tour, what could I, what, what would have made it better for me, so I can make the tour better for those who are attending. And last year, I got sick before the tour, so yay, sick before the tour. That's wonderful. But that meant that I actually couldn't record two of the YouTube videos before we left, and there would not be time for us to record them on tour, nor would there be time for us to record them when we got back in time for them to release on YouTube. So we just missed a month of YouTube videos, which is unlike us. We've never done that before. Now we have playlists, and we had other tutorials we could drop, but we didn't have our long forms, and that would be like, just we never missed, and I just had to get to come to terms, like it's just not gonna happen. We put too much on my plate. I got sick. And so with my assistant, I was like, okay, we have to make sure that there is room in the schedule for things to go haywire, for me to get sick. And so what's so cool is we adjusted my schedule way back in January so that I would be recording so far in advance, which is not always ideal, because that means like, I'm not recording things in with like, what is going on with the world at the exact same time. However, it allows, if I get sick, there's a little bit more wiggle room to record things, versus just skipping things. So it just feels so good going on this tour, having been so prepared and so on top of things, and knowing that when I come back to my home in January, like the most important thing I have to do is get my hair done and my nails done, like, that's it. So do you hear how a win can be in so many things? It can be a long practice thing. It can be something small. You can also just be in like, I felt a certain way. I don't want to feel like that again. I made a plan, I did the plan, and here we are. So I, being it till you, see, it is hard. Every time, we evolve. We learn more things about ourselves. We figure something out. It's like a mountain with no peak, but not in a way that we're unsatisfied, in a way that we just keep taking a look back at how far we've come and adjusting our path going forward. Because also for my ladies, listening to this, like our bodies are changing, right? I am 42 so you might be in your 50s, and it's already you're on the other side of perimenopause and and I'm getting there, but like may my listening and reflecting myself give you permission to listen and reflect upon yourself. And if you need help, ask for it. If you need people to leave you alone, ask for it, right? And then send that win in so we can celebrate you. Lesley Logan 8:02  All right, a little affirmation for you to take with you on your journey. Here we go. What is today's? I get, here it is. I let go of the things that sit achingly out of reach. I let go of the things that sit achingly out of reach. I let go of the things that sit achingly out of reach. You know what? You do that probably create space to welcome it all the way in. Sometimes, that's how it goes. You release it and it comes back. Someday, I'll tell you about a story when I released Brad and he came back. Anyways, that's a story for another day. You're amazing. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 8:38  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 9:20  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 9:25  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 9:30  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 9:37  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 9:40  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley and Brad revisit Lesley's conversation with fat loss and mindset coach Amy Ledin, co-founder of Lean Bodies Consulting. They share how Amy uses identity-based habits, Daily Agreement Cards (DAC's), and simple appearance rituals to help her show up as the person she wants to be while navigating stage four cancer. They also break down her 5 for 50 Habits Framework and how scripting your future self can rewrite negative self-perception.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How appearance rituals can help you reflect the identity you want.How future-self scripting can reshape mental loops on negative self-talk.How Daily Agreement Cards can turn vague intentions into daily commitments.How the 5 for 50 approach can simplify long-term habit building.How identity-led actions can make starting new habits feel more doable.Episode References/Links:OPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourAgency Waitlist - https://prfit.biz/eventsPilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsCan You Travel Around the World Teaching Pilates? - https://beitpod.com/teachingabroadPlanke App - https://plankeapp.comSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsAmy Ledin Website - https://www.leanbodiesconsulting.comLean Bodies Consulting - https://facebook.com/leanbodiesconsultingEpisode 5: Amy Ledin - https://beitpod.com/ep5Episode 85 : Dr. Celeste Holbrook - https://beitpod.com/ep85 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  There's so many different reasons to have things that help you show up as the identity that you want to be so you can actually do the thing that you want to do. Lesley Logan 0:09  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the unfaltering convo I had with Amy Ledin in our last episode. Brad Crowell 0:59  The what convo? Lesley Logan 1:00  Unfaltering. Brad Crowell 1:01  Unfaltering. Love that. Lesley Logan 1:03  Yeah. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you are definitely going in and out of order. But that's fine. It's totally fine. We're actually. Brad Crowell 1:11  We don't do perfection here. Lesley Logan 1:12  We don't and but also, this kicks off our Habits series. Brad Crowell 1:19  This one? Lesley Logan 1:19  Yes. Lesley Logan 1:20  Oh, I didn't know that. Lesley Logan 1:21  We are in the Habits series. You don't even know. Brad Crowell 1:23  I know that's amazing. Well, I was gonna comment that it was coming up because the two of you talked a lot about habits.Lesley Logan 1:28  Yeah, yeah. So she kicked us off in this interview, in case, the way I talk about habits doesn't exactly work for you. Amy is a great person at habits. And then several episodes, they're like 15, 20, minutes of me actually, just like breaking down how habits work. And so you can, you'll have episodes you can actually come back to anytime you need to go back through a habit. Brad Crowell 1:53  Love that. Lesley Logan 1:54  I know.Brad Crowell 1:55  So this is 611 so just remember episode 611 kicks off the Habits series. Brad Crowell 1:59  Well, 610. Oh, the interview with her, 610 so, yeah, the last episode. So you really should go back and listen to it, if you haven't already, it's worth it.Lesley Logan 2:08  You should. So, but before that, you'll listen to us talk about how today is December 4th 2025, and it's World Wildlife Conservation Day day. According to Brad's notes, day day. Brad Crowell 2:19  Day, day. Lesley Logan 2:20  Day day, all right, World Wildlife Conservation Day is on December 4th and we're so excited to spread awareness about preserving Earth's endangered flora and fauna. What do you think the most invasive species on the earth is? Monkeys, catfish, locusts? Well, I'm just gonna pause before I say what I'm about to say the second to the last sentence does make me feel like these people do care about the animals, and I'm gonna get it, bring it back to the animals, but we do have to talk about how it's us humans, and it's not because you're not having enough babies, ladies, that's not it at all. Actually, it's because nature's most magnificent, are we really, nature's most magnificent creatures, world, wildlife, people, I don't think so, are becoming endangers and being pushed the brink of extinction by the greed of some humans. Okay, so really, animals.Brad Crowell 3:06  No, they're saying that animals and plants are being pushed to extinction because of humans. Lesley Logan 3:13  Because of humans. Okay, all right, so, so, oh, I see we're the most invasive species. Brad Crowell 3:19  That's right. We are the most invasive species. Lesley Logan 3:21  We are the most, I read that as endangered. So okay, so I'll take it all the, well, first of all, we don't need to have any more babies because we are the most invasive species. There it is. But it's true. I just get so tired of people thinking like we're gonna run out of people. We're not gonna run out of people, because the Earth is gonna get too hot for people, because we are being assholes, so this is causing irreparable harm to the wildlife ecosystem. So, just so you know, here are the animals that are in danger right now. One of the most rarest cats in the world is the Amur leopard. There's only about 100 of them left. The vaquita is a small porpoise from the Gulf of California with only eight to 13 estimated to be left. And the rhino. Multiple species are actually critically endangered, largely due to poaching for their horns. And it's really sad about the rhino, because have you seen a baby rhino? They're so cute. The orangutan, all species of orangutans are critically endangered because of the habitat loss from deforestation, and they're being hunted or captured as infants. I watch this incredible thing about how they're trying to create habitats for orangutans, but then they have to take the orangutans that are used to being around people and like, teach them to be orangutans again, it's really quite cute. The saola, saola, an elusive forest dwelling animal in the Annamite Mountain, sometimes called the Asian unicorn, saola, an Asian unicorn? Well, we got to see this. Sunda pangolin, over-exploited for their meat and scales with illegal trade and a major threat. And then the bugs we got to be worried about, the salt Creek tiger beetle, the butterflies, the McCarthy's plant-louse and a giant torrent midge. And, I mean, do we need the midges? I don't know if that's the same as a midge in Scotland. Brad Crowell 3:21  What is it? Lesley Logan 3:21  Giant torrent midge.Brad Crowell 3:21  All right, images, oh, I don't actually know what I'm looking at here.Lesley Logan 3:21  It's giving me, AI is giving me 75 different kinds of animals, none of which, I think are the midge.Brad Crowell 3:21  It feels like it's, it's kind of in the antlered world. But a bunch of bugs came up. Lesley Logan 3:21  Yeah, a bunch. But did you find the Asian unicorn?Brad Crowell 3:21  I did. And it actually is like the spindly, horned like. Lesley Logan 3:21  Okay, you know what it looks like, everyone? It looks like, it looks like the Target dog on a deer with horns. It does. Not white, but like the snout.Brad Crowell 4:44  It's got, it's the bull terrier face, but it has antlers that are spinning like spindling. They spin. Lesley Logan 3:55  All these to say, the we are endangering a.Brad Crowell 4:41  Twist, they twist. Lesley Logan 4:41  And, oh, and we're endangering a lot of animals. And when one animal goes it actually affects a whole chain. And as humans, I think that we are really getting into we're too self-absorbed, even when we think we're doing the right thing. So just be mindful of what you're doing. And you know, we're we're making the earth too hot, and it's going to be a problem for everybody. So that's World Wildlife, you know, conservation day, humans are an invasive species, not endangered one. Okay, I read that totally wrong. Sorry about that. Anyways. Also, today is the day we have left for the tour.Brad Crowell 4:41  Yeah, we hit the road, and that's exciting. We are heading to Colorado.Lesley Logan 4:41  Yeah, we're going to Colorado Springs. That event sold out. Both things sold out in like a week, so yeah, and then we'll be in Fayetteville, and then we're gonna keep on going, opc.me/tour, is where you can get your tickets and. Brad Crowell 3:55  There are still a few tickets left, y'all, but I don't know which cities, so just hop over to opc.me/tour, and come join us. Come hang out. It'll be so fun to meet you in person.Lesley Logan 5:49  We really want to. It's one of the best ways for us to hang out, and there's lots of prizes. Balanced Body is our sponsor of this tour, and that means we're bringing our Controlology equipment with us. We're bringing Bayon with us. This is the biggest one. This one has 23 cities, so we've outdone ourselves, truly have and we will see how we are on the other side. So, but also while we're on tour. You know, we talked about this last month, but we did not do a sale for Profitable Pilates this past week. I guess it would have been for the Thanksgiving holiday, because we're doing something really special December 26th to the 31st and so you're gonna want, if you've ever wanted to try out Agency, if you've ever wanted to experience what's like, to be coached with us, and you want to get it on a discount, you are going to want to make sure that you are paying attention to our emails. And so the best thing you can do is go to prfit.biz/events, because that'll get you on the waitlist. Actually, just wrote a waitlist email for those people, yes, and that way you will not miss out on this amazing opportunity, and it will in the come back around, okay. And then after the new year, we come home, we literally unpack the van. I'm getting my roots and my nails done. I literally told the team, there's zero things that can happen on that day. There's only two things that can happen on that day, because my roots will be five weeks out, and so will my nails. And we have never tested that before in life. Brad Crowell 6:56  So I'm gonna basically unpack the van and repack the van while she's getting her nails done.Lesley Logan 6:10  I know I and we haven't even decided for taking I guess we're taking the van. So we're I'm gonna be teaching at the Pilates Journal Expo in Huntington Beach. Brad's gonna be at the booth. We've got some fun fireside chats. It depends on if those rugs that we are picking up fit in the other car. So you guys, oh my God, do you want to know this? We have six rugs that are waiting for us to pick them up, six and they're huge, and the last thing I needed in this house was a rug. But I couldn't say no to six rugs. So I have to now maybe get rid of some rugs, or we're gonna layer some rugs, unclear, but this is, this is the things that Brad and I on our ADHD have to figure out. However, we are going to somehow, some car is going to take us to L.A. and that car will pick up some rugs before we're at the Expo. And then Brad will be at the booth. I'll be running around. I'm doing a fun chat with Ken Edelman. I'm doing a fireside chat that I think Erika Quest is hosting. I got a couple workshops in a class so go to xxll.co/pilatesjournal. And then, also, in January, besides being at my birthday, we are going to let the wait list people in on an amazing deal on the retreat to Cambodia next October. So it happens in January. Why? Because we want to kick off the new year. Help you plan your massive travel for the end of the year and have some fun with us. You can plan the, you get to think about it all year long how cool is that, You'll want to go to crowsnestretreats.com to get on that waitlist, because, again, only the waitlist people get the discount. Brad Crowell 9:52  Yeah, and we're gonna have a call in January, middle of January, basically, to we're just gonna hang out and talk about it all. And answer questions for you. So if you were like, you know, it's interesting, but I'm unsure. Come join us for the call. We're going to email the wait list about the call. So go on the waitlist. Go to crowsnestretreats.com, you'll just see it on the homepage. Scroll down a little bit towards the bottom, and you'll see, you know, find out about the upcoming events and whatever. So we'll be able to email you the Zoom link. And yeah, we're just going to hang out and talk about it, and we'll probably invite a couple of our past retreaters to join us, so you can ask them questions and all the things. But I next year is going to be it's gonna be a big, a big trip. I'm excited. It's gonna be awesome. And we have, we've already had, we've literally already had people start getting tickets. Okay, I know they got a secret sale, and a bunch of people were like, yes, please. So just saying.Lesley Logan 10:44  They're like, people like, how do I get the secret sale? Apparently they just asked you guys. I'm pretty sure that's how it went. Then in February, we will have our Agency Mini, but it's happening in February. I don't have the dates in front of us, so pfit.biz/mini will make sure that you do not miss out on when that is happening but.Brad Crowell 11:01  Profit without the O slash mini. Lesley Logan 11:03  If you paid attention to what's happening on December 26th to the 31st you will not miss out on that Mini. So I'm just hinting, hinting.Brad Crowell 11:12  Hinting. Lesley Logan 11:12  I think I'm hinting on the right thing. The team will let me know. In March, I will be in Poland, and we will also be in Brussels. So if you and with Karen Frischmann, so if you want to learn in an intimate setting and for like, long days of amazingness with Karen and I, then you're gonna want to go to xxll.co/poland or xxll.co/brussels to snag your spot. And then at the time we're recording this, we have, they have not announced POT London, but we will be there. And so if you go to xxl.co/pot, you'll see all the POTs that are happening next year. Brad Crowell 11:47  That's right. Lesley Logan 11:48  So when London is there, you will see it there. And if it's not there, you can see all the other things. And just because we're sitting in there doesn't mean we're going to be at all those things. Brad Crowell 12:00  No, that's true. Lesley Logan 12:00  So don't get mad. Brad Crowell 11:57  We'll be at the London one. Lesley Logan 11:58  We'll be at the London one for sure. Well, I'll be teaching at the London one for sure. Brad Crowell 12:01  Oh yeah. Lesley Logan 12:02  Okay, now we have to answer an audience question, and then we can get into the amazingness of Ame Ledin. Brad Crowell 12:08  Yes. So okay, we had a great question. This is from SamCrecco. Samantha asks from IG, hi, I came across your page, and it has really motivated me to make a change. I am an elementary school teacher, and I've been teaching Pilates on the side for about two years now. As a former dancer, I've always had a passion for health and wellness. I'm looking to teach Pilates abroad for a short amount of time, maybe three months, but I'm open to longer. I was wondering if you have any suggestions on how to get started. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you, Sam.Lesley Logan 12:40  Yeah, so, Sam, you it's so here's what is amazing about being a Pilates instructor. You can kind of go anywhere and get a job, like most studios need people. But on profitablepilates.com we actually had a great blog written by Roxy Menzies about being a traveling Pilates instructor, and it's like, I think that we published it like eight years ago and or maybe seven years ago, and it is still the top red blog, one of the top red blogs on the website, because it's such a hot topic. And so I absolutely recommend reading that book, reading that book, reading that blog, because she did that for years. She was a traveling Pilates instructor. She did it for years, until she settled down and had a family. So I would check out that blog post. There's also, and I think it's linked in that blog post, there's also, there, at least was a Facebook group for traveling Pilates instructors. Like, I'm not a I'm not hugely active on Facebook, so I understand, like, I don't know how that will work, but you can go in there and see what that is. And then there's a couple other apps where, like, studios will put job postings. I think, Planke does it P-L-A-N-K-E, the PMA has a job board. Essentially, though, like you would just be surprised what like, because here's the thing you're gonna need to know what your kind of style of teaching is called, because obviously that's for some students that's going to matter, or for you to enjoy yourself that might matter. And then sometimes they just post things in in groups, or they tell a friend, or you can, you can let people know. One of the girls who did eLevate, she actually ran someone's studio for six weeks in Hawaii. So she got to live in the woman's house and live in Hawaii on an island by the beach, and run her studio. So the woman could take six weeks off like, what a dream. I think it's amazing. Brad Crowell 14:20  I'm all about that. I mean, maybe not at this point in my life, because I do have a family and a house. But you know, if I was 20 years younger and in this position, it sounds so fun. Lesley Logan 14:32  Oh, if we still had the apartment in L.A. when we when we didn't have the studio, this would have been like, like, upper alley, but now I'm, like, just not gonna pay me enough. But, well, you're, you have to, but, but Sam is in the perfect place. Like, she's like that, and she should take advantage of it. I think, like so many people, like, oh, this is what I should do. No, if you are not like, like you, if you don't have like, a lease that you're like, dedicated to, like, if it's easy for you to be mobile., well, you should do that while you can, because you haven't you will meet and learn. Meet so many people, learn so many things. You'll learn about yourself. It's like, the same reason why you should come to Cambodia, like, there's just things you have to do in your life so that you can truly level up and figure out what you really want to do. Like, that's the cool thing about being a Pilates instructor. Maybe some people will do this for their whole lifetime, and some people will do it seasonally as a as like a thing that they do until they figure out what they want to do. I love that. So anyways.Brad Crowell 15:27  I'm in. Well, thanks for asking that question. If you have a question, you can ask us, go to beitpod.com/questions where you can leave a win or a question, beitpod.com/questions and last week, we got to read out one, and we'd love to hear one from you. So stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into this great conversation that Lesley had with Amy Ledin, and we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 15:50  All right. Now, let's talk about Amy Ledin. Amy Ledin is a fat loss and mindset coach. She's the cofounder of Lean Bodies Consulting and the host of the F* It Podcast. She helps women in midlife create lasting transformation through training, nutrition and identity-based habit change. Great. Lesley Logan 16:09  What? Great. Brad Crowell 16:13  Great. Yeah, it's so great. Actually, you know what I really appreciated was I've been around you for so long now with your habits training with BJ Fogg, and just listening to you talk about the process and how it all works. And it was, it was really fun to listen to somebody else talk about habits and habit forming and building with her clients. But it's, I thought it was cool because it was identity-based habit change and not just like habit change. So that's pretty awesome. She uses tools like the DAC, which are her daily agreement cards, which we talked about all the way back in episode two, I think, or three. Lesley Logan 16:13  She was episode five. Brad Crowell 16:13  Just kidding, way back in the beginning, five, her DACs. She still uses those. She helps clients reprogram the mental loops that keep them stuck and build a body that reflects their discipline, a stage four nonsmall cell lung cancer fighter, Amy continues to lead and inspire through resilience, integrity and action. And yeah, I know. Lesley Logan 16:13  This was a big episode. Brad Crowell 16:13  This is a pretty big episode. It was also like.Lesley Logan 16:21  We're gonna spoil some things as we talk about it, so if you didn't listen, it won't be a surprise when you're listening. But like it was, she has cancer right now.Brad Crowell 17:06  Recurring, for the fourth time recurring, and this time it's, it's attacked her brain. Lesley Logan 17:10  I know I'm really upset. I'm like, I'm I'm frustrated for her. And we have another friend who's going through something similar. It's like, the second time, and you're just like, you know, like, it's just so frustrating because, like, of course, they're also the people, like, doing the work and caring for other people, and they're so generous and all that they do, and you're just like, like, why can't it be the fucking asshole over there? You know? Why? You know, but that doesn't get to be that person. So we can, we can get into that in a little bit. But I actually want to talk some other things. I did love that she said.Brad Crowell 17:58  Yeah, before that, I just wanted to say, you know, thanks for the update, Amy. And I just wanted to say that I appreciated her honesty. You know, I'm glad you asked the question the way you asked, which was like, how's it going with cancer? Do you still have cancer? What's what's going on? And she said, yes. And instead of being like, Oh, I'm so sorry. You said I'm sorry, but you know, like, how does that make you feel? Like, do you feel like? I can't remember exactly what you asked, but it was something about like, do you, are you sad, are you tired of being sorry? Are you tired of people saying that? And she said, I'm actually tired of it, and I'm tired of also being the strong one, because people always tell her wow, you might, you're so strong, you know. And she's like, I don't want to be that anymore. I've been doing that for a long time, fighting this, and it's, you know, she doesn't want to do that. So I just thought it was a really candid conversation about somebody who's going through something that, you know, the first times were probably like, debilitating and crushing, and this time it's almost, it's got to be, like, some kind of a routine at this point.Lesley Logan 19:08  I mean, I think we just talked about, like, how she didn't even tell them right away, because it's like, you just don't like, you just don't even want to, like, go through the things that people are going to say.Brad Crowell 19:17  We all know what they're going to say. I mean, we've, we've done it with our pets, you know and, you know. And I'm not, I'm not carrying them in that way. But the the recurring trauma of something that's tragic happening a second time, you know, I can only imagine what, yeah, you know, a fourth time, you know, so I just wanted to say thank you for asking it the way you did. And Amy, thanks for being candid and being willing to share. And you know.Lesley Logan 19:45  Also, like, I don't we were like, we would talk before the episode started and it didn't come up. No. And so I was like, oh, Jesus fuck. Like, you know shouldn't tell. And also, and here's the other thing, that it's really important for us to hear, at no point did I go. She never told me, like, as, if you know what I mean, like, like, it's an affront. You should have told me, how come you didn't tell me. It's like, I think it's, you know.Brad Crowell 20:08  That's like, narcissism. Lesley Logan 20:09  I, I don't even, it's, it might not mean you might not be a narcissist who does, who says that, and you still say, but like, it's, well, it's never, by the way, it's never about you. In fact, if, like, just okay, if you're someone in my life who I'm not calling it's probably not about you. It's probably me, most likely, 99.9% of the time, it's me. So you know, and so I if any of your friends are like me at all, it's also them, it's not you. So if it is you, you can just say, Hey, I'm actually a little surprised. And if it is me, I just want to know if it's not me. No, no need to say anything, but, like, it's probably not you, but so at no point did I think that, but I was just like, geez, this fucking sucks. She because she is so strong, but she's gonna be so tired, because people will always say to me, they're like, you're so resilient. It's like, I'm fucking tired of being resilient. So anyways, she's a badass. Let's get into some of the reasons why she is she said on body and identity, and this is another reason why I like the way that she talks about habits, because, like, she talks about it as embodying it. And I think I should have spot one of my clients the other day or the other another episode where she's like, I'm a healthy person, like, it's an identity that she wants to be, and a healthy person won't, like, cancel their Pilates session so I'm here even though I would prefer to be laying in bed, right? Like, so I was so proud of her. I was like, I'm so proud of you. Because, like, that's how you can that's how you can make changes in your life. It doesn't have to be habits. I make changes. And so she said on embodied identity, you have got to show up as the person you want to be. And so for Amy, she talked about how she puts on her makeup and she does her hair, and she consciously avoids verbalizing her pain or fatigue with what she's going through, managing her stage four cancer, because she's really focusing on your body goes in the direction you speak to it. Your body goes in the direction you speak to it. We've all heard like, where your energy goes. That's where it flows, right like, so you can focus on all the negative things that are happening in your life. And guess what you're gonna see all the negative things. And guess what you're watering all the you're literally watering the negative things. But if you're focusing on, and it's not a toxic positivity type of focus, but if you're focusing on showing up as the person you want to be, and putting your focus in that direction, it is going to get you there. And she said, she said she emphasized the power of maintaining her appearance as a tool to influence her self-perception. So I love this. I do this too, because whenever I feel a little tired, we'll run down if I look in the room like, oh, I didn't get dressed today, of course, like, but maybe it's I also I didn't sleep. But, like.Brad Crowell 22:49  I know what you mean, you just kind of, you know, roll out of bed and keep going and (inaudible).Lesley Logan 22:53  Some days it happens and you're like, oh, no wonder I'm feeling like, not myself. You put everything on. And even if that doesn't solve the world's problems, it kind of you look at yourself in the mirror, you go, I look good, right? Like, I look great. So she said, not many people realize that it's a big superpower. You want to see reflection of who you're wanting to be feeling like, like in the mirror, you know? So I think some people can get a little weird about, like, oh, putting on makeup and doing my hair. Like, that's so superficial. It's not, guys. Yes, there are people that are superficial who do that, but like, for most of us, it is kind of the thing that helps us show up more as the person we want to be because we're fighting on the outside.Brad Crowell 23:33  You know, it's like, I think corporate usually it's weird about it, because every you know, it can become like, a competition and stuff. But like, you know, there is a reason that people wear a suit and tie in a corporate environment, right. It changes the way you you it's supposed to change the way you act. Lesley Logan 23:53  Yeah, yeah. There's a reason why there's uniforms at schools. It's like, kind of so that everyone is, like, not in pajamas at school. But also, like, you know, supposedly supposed to help people, like, not be wanting to be each other. But like, kind of also like this, if it's your job to go to school, like, then you have to wear uniform, you know. So I get it. Brad Crowell 24:10  I definitely have found myself changing my shirt before I get on Zoom calls now where I'm like, you know, like, my old T shirts aren't really my vibe anymore, and as much as I enjoy them for, you know, running around or, you know, weekend, yard work, they're, they're the wrong vibe for when I'm coaching or I'm on a call or whatever. And, yeah, it definitely gives you a different perception of yourself.Lesley Logan 24:35  Yeah. And I think, like, I just think that, you know, a lot of a lot of us are taking notes from people who maybe what they're saying means well. Like, especially if you're like, oh my God, I have to spend so much time getting ready every day. Yeah, you don't need that stuff. But like, if you are trying to feel like a more positive person who feels strong and as a leader, like these things can help. You know, Dr Celeste Holbrook calls that she calls them harm reduction acts, like she would love to not wear makeup, and she would love to not have to put on a clothes that match, but for her to get her message out, she understands that there is a way that she needs to show up, and if she shows up that way, she reduces the harm she could get in the comments. And so she also, like, does this thing in the morning, so that she can put these things on, so can show up in the way that she wants to be received, so that she can give her message out there. So there's so many different reasons to have things that help you show up as the identity that you want to be. So you can actually do the thing that you want to do. Brad Crowell 25:41  Yeah, well, that, that leads pretty straight into what I enjoyed, what she was talking about. She was talking about, how we, how do we create change in ourselves, and how do we, you know, habit forming, and all that kind of stuff, the self-talk, the way that we we what we're thinking. It's really interesting, because I'm like, super analytical and a little bit sarcastic is the wrong word, but cynical is the right word, right? So I'm a little bit cynical. So, you know, I feel like there can be this dissidence of like, oh, when I say these happy things, I'm still lying to myself, because it's not reality. But what, what she's talking about were, was basically the way that you say the things to your brain really matters, and it really needs to be identity shifting, the things that you say to yourself. So like, for example, what I've noticed this is just very basic, but if I wake up and I go, I feel tired. I probably feel tired all day. But if I wake up and I and I say, I'm ready to go, then I'm going to be ready to go all day. You know, especially if you're like, I feel good, I feel good. I'm ready. Let's do this right? And so in that same vein, she advocates for scripting or writing out your day as if you were already your future self. So this is like future casting, right? And this is also like, you know, you call it manifesting, or whatever, but the idea is that you're who is it that you want it to be? Who do you want to be? Who do you how do you want to operate? You know, how do you want to think if you create a script for that, you know? And she talks about, you know, I am someone who is good at making decisions, and I make decisions that benefit my myself, my future, my family, and, you know, every decision that I make is helps lead us towards the path that we're going down. This kind of a thing where it doesn't, it's, you know, it certainly can be right? And she said, script this, because what happens is you're rewiring your brain, right? She said, your brain doesn't actually see the difference between your future self being a scripted version of yourself and the current self, right? And what you're doing. She said, since 91% of your thoughts are repetitive, which is crazy, because I thought it was only 80s, she said, 91. Lesley Logan 25:42  I think it's probably 91. Brad Crowell 25:42  She said, consciously scripting is a new you know, your new reality is essential for breaking away from old patterns. And you're trying to show that you can change. You know you're you're changing who you are and when you as you're scripting this, whatever it is going to be for the future, this mantra that you're going to create for yourself, there will come a point that you're you start to adopt it in the way that you think. So it might sound cheesy and weird, but give it a try. You know, I think this is actually really interesting.Lesley Logan 26:51  Yeah. I actually really like this. And I think, like, for the people who are like, I'm so busy, you can do this on a commute, because you can just talk to text. You can just talk to text.Brad Crowell 27:54  Yeah, well, I but I think the idea is that if you're scripting it, you want to read it. Lesley Logan 28:02  Well, you know, but talk to text, then you can read it. Like, if you don't have if you're like, my morning is so busy, It's so chaotic, I got to get everybody out of the door, you could then, on your way to work, talk to text and a note on your phone. Here's how my days here's how my day went to it's the end of the day. Here's how my day went. Like you're scripting the day, right? And then when you get to your desk, you can just read it. You already wrote it. Brad Crowell 26:04  I don't quite think that's what she means. I think she's saying. Lesley Logan 26:51  You have to handwrite it. Brad Crowell 26:51  No, she's saying, map it out. It's your thing that you do as your it's the same thing. You repeat it every day. It's the same one. Lesley Logan 26:51  Oh, you're doing the same one every single day.Brad Crowell 26:51  You're creating a script, and you're retraining your brain and the way that you think. So, how is it that you want to think, let's write these things down? Lesley Logan 27:03  If you're already your future self.Brad Crowell 29:23  Right. As if you were already your future self? Oh, okay, I like what you're talking about. Because what you're talking about is, is more like the brain dump kind of a thing of like, almost like the morning, morning pages slash notes.Lesley Logan 29:49  How this amazing day is going to be, well, you could still do this part. You could still do it voice to text. You just have to the same one every time. Brad Crowell 29:49  Right. But then you have to remember it. So. Lesley Logan 29:49  I think you will, I think you'll even get more (inaudible) you probably can get better at it. I think you probably even get more details and more nuances, and the smells and the sounds will be there. Yeah, I'm just trying to help the people out who are like, look, I know what they're gonna say, Brad, they're gonna say, I don't have time to do this every morning. No time. So I'm trying to give them the permission to find a way. Brad Crowell 30:20  Let's change that. The I don't have time thing, I don't, I don't. I think that we're making it lot bigger than it needs to be. Like, okay, maybe the first time you have to spend some time thinking about who you want to be yourself. But you need to do that anyway. Yeah, right. So one, you know, but I think your mantra could literally be two sentences or five sentence. It doesn't have to be paragraphs. We're talking about, you know, something that you can build into your morning routine as a habit, and it becomes a habit, you know. And maybe it's when you're brushing your teeth you see, you know, the note on the mirror that says daily mantra, or daily you know, you know, identity shifting, or whatever it is that you, you know.Lesley Logan 31:02  Yeah, you could put it somewhere where you could read it every morning and every night. I like that.Brad Crowell 31:05  Yeah. I mean, I don't even think you need to write it out and stick it on the mirror. You could, but even on your phone. You just need something like, You need to like Lesley says, tie it to something that you do daily so that you're gonna see it like, for example, the making coffee and doing push ups while I'm waiting for the coffee to brew.Lesley Logan 31:23  I like it while you're brushing your teeth, because you do probably do that twice a day. I like it being on the mirror and not on your phone so you don't get distracted. My ADHD, as soon as they open their phone, they're getting fucking lost and they're somewhere else. Brad Crowell 31:35  I think that's wise. Lesley Logan 31:36  And if they don't update that note every day, then the note gets buried. So like, let's just put it on paper on your mirror, and you can read it twice a day while you're brushing your teeth, because while you're brushing your teeth, you're like, man, two minutes is a long time. It's a long time. So what if you read it for the whole two minutes?Brad Crowell 31:51  What if, I mean again, it doesn't have to be two minutes long. It could just be a few sentences. Lesley Logan 31:51  No, it could be a few sentences that you read over and over again for two minutes. Brad Crowell 31:58  Yeah, that's cool. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into some really great Be It Action Items that Amy shared with us like she's a powerhouse, y'all, I'm very continuously impressed by her. Lesley Logan 32:10  I know. Brad Crowell 32:10  Yeah, well, we'll be right back. All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Amy Ledin? So funny enough, I'm going to let you say what she got excited about. But she she also said she's got this interesting framework that she created about habit building, and she calls it five for 50, okay? And, yeah, I thought this was clever. I know there, you know there's you talk a little bit differently about the length of time it takes to build a habit. Lesley Logan 32:45  Yeah. I actually this idea. Cares thing (inaduible) Brad Crowell 32:49  Wait, wait, let me tell the idea. Okay, so 5 for 50, what is it? 5 for 50, you're picking five specific things that you want to turn into habits, and you're going to perform these habits for 50 consecutive days in a row, right? So little redundant there consecutive means in a row. So 50 consecutive days you're going to perform these five specific habits that you want to change. And there's one caveat, four out of five of those must be things you genuinely intend to continue to do long term. So you're not picking five things that you might want to try out. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about four of the things you definitely want to build into your life. And the fifth thing, maybe that's the thing you want to try out, right? And the examples that she gave were, she has a 26 year old son who was like, I really want to learn to draw. And he he said, I'm going to do it for 30 minutes every day. And and after a few days, he was like, whoa, this is overkill. I I'm not an amazing (inaudible) I reduced it to 10 minutes a day, but he still did it 10 minutes a day for 50 days.Lesley Logan 33:52  Yeah, and that. And so she does give there's a you have the first week to adjust the habit so I. Brad Crowell 33:59  Increased his time because he got really into drawing. And by the end of 50 days, she said he was like, Michael Jordan of drawing, yeah, yeah, yeah. She said it's amazing what you can do. You know, you know how you know whether it's playing the guitar or whatever it is, you know, the but the so the fifth habit is reserved for personal growth area that the person wants to explore. This will allow you to dabble in it, to see if it's something you'd like to continue to, you know, without the pressure of a forever commitment. So for her, it was getting back into journaling. She's like, you know, I used to do it. I was really intentional about it before I got out of the habit of it. And like, I kind of want to do it, but I'm not really sure if I want to do it again. So she was like, I'm going to add that in as my fifth thing. So, you know, and, yeah, that seven day window gives you time to redefine, redefine those agreements. There's 50 those five things over the 50 days, you know, if the initial commitment proves too much. And I thought, I thought this was kind of clever and and so that said, I wanted to check in with you, Lesley, because you said, oh, I started learning Tarot. Lesley Logan 34:47  Yeah, tarot. Brad Crowell 34:49  Tarot, I said, tarot. Lesley Logan 35:00  I know, like I'm rowing a boat, like I'm learning to row, yeah, tarot, yeah. I'm still learning it. I'm still learning it. I have missed a few days on the return of our, of our coming here, but I actually, except for, according to the app, I missed a couple times. I think that's because of the plane. Like, I, you know, I actually do believe I did it on the days that I did it, but, like, it was like, you missed it, but I actually did almost 50 days in a row on that and I am not a little hiatus, because we have to get back to life. And it just was like, Okay, this is actually filling a job and not like a hobby and so, but I love it. I'm really into it. And I just, I'm really excited, because I just got a notification that this 2026 journal is coming, and it's like a daily Tarot journal, so it will help me with my because with Tarot, you have to, like, immerse yourself in it, to learn it. You know, like, you got to learn the cards, but then you got to draw the cards. And so I'm trying to find these different ways to make sure it's around me. So it's easy to do sure, but I am loving this. This is really fun for me, and it's also really interesting when I tell people I'm learning it, because they're like, oh, are you new readings? And it's like, no, no, no, not everything that I do is going to become something I get paid to do. This is for me, doing it for myself, but I but I actually like, I really like, here's the thing. We can all talk about the same thing in different ways, and some people are going to love it, and some really love other things. I actually really like the way that B.J. does habits, which is what I'm going to go into the rest of the of the month. That being said, this might be exactly what you want to do. Or you can actually go, Hmm, I wonder what my five habits would be. You can actually use what I am doing the next the for the next month to come up with your 5 for 50. And then starting on day one of the year, you could go through the first 50 days of the year using Amy's, so you can actually do both.Brad Crowell 37:05  Sure, I dig it. Well. Anyway, I thought that. I thought it was a good like, I love it. It's a good challenge. You know, it's a challenge, but it's a good one. Lesley Logan 37:12  And I think it, I think it is a challenge, and you're not. It's not like, they do this every 50 days where they start new things, like they, they do this and then like they, I think if she said it was a couple times a year, it's like, not like, every 50 days, like, Okay, it's time for our new 5 for 50. Like, you've run out of things to do. So my Be It Action Items, she is so clever, she actually used her DACs and the Be It acronym. So.Brad Crowell 37:36  DACs are the daily action commitments, which for her were cards that she was writing on. Lesley Logan 37:41  Yeah, like, those cute little like, recipe cards, yeah. So B is bold, pick one agreement that matters. So your bold action, and that she is saying is, pick an agreement that matters, and then you're gonna do E, which is executable, write it in real words, not vague words, be specific on what you're shooting for. And then I the intrinsic is link it to how you want it to feel, not how much you want to weigh or how much you want to make. So like, not anything like external, but how you want, how that one thing is going to make you feel on the inside. And then T targeted, start today, not someday, be very specific of when you're going to start doing the thing. So I thought that was, like, a really fun way for her to use her DACs with the Be It. I was like, oh, look at that, be it till you see it right there.Brad Crowell 38:29  Yeah, it's I thought it was quite clever.Lesley Logan 38:32  Yeah, I know. I love when people give me my acronym back. I don't want to make it a rule, but, like, it does make me smile. I'm not saying anything guests who are listening to this that maybe you should do it, but, but it's really good. I can't believe it's been 555 episodes. Brad Crowell 38:52  Wait. Lesley Logan 38:53  She was on Episode five.Brad Crowell 38:54  Yeah, this is episode 611.Lesley Logan 38:56  I know, but she was on episode she was on episode 610 so she, it's been 555 from her. Brad Crowell 39:02  605 baby. Lesley Logan 39:06  Oh, nailing it. Nailing it on these episodes (inaudible) wow. I, like, don't even have my brain doubled down on that, like, I doubled down on that, and I really was like, oh, that's 555, that equals 610, five, five plus five. That's 10. Really, this is why I actually write down math when I do it and not do it in my head. Anyways.Brad Crowell 39:37  We listen to a pod where he says, I don't do live math so but yeah, maybe we should adopt that.Lesley Logan 39:43  Clearly I don't do live math. All right, I am Lesley Logan, and I, I am imperfect. Clearly from this episode,Brad Crowell 39:51  I'm Brad Crowell. Thanks for being here.Lesley Logan 39:51  Yeah, make sure you share this with a friend who needs to hear it. It's really, really great. And also we want to hear, Amy's gonna want to hear, especially like, did you do 5 and 50? Did you pick an agreement? Did you do anything like share it with her. I know she'll love to hear it, and it will inspire her and empower you. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 40:11  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 40:12  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 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Lesley Logan reconnects with fat loss and mindset coach Amy Ledin to talk about the habits that actually stick in midlife. Amy shares how she's been navigating stage four cancer while still honoring her values, her energy, and the daily agreements that keep her grounded. Together, they revisit her 5 for 50 habit framework, explore the power of future self scripting, and break down why identity work—not willpower—is what creates change that lasts and helps you become the person who follows through.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Amy returned to routines and promises after her cancer recurrence.Why she created 5 for 50 and how doing it as a family builds confidence.How choosing a “test habit” and adjusting early makes hard habits feel doable.Why creating a health character and using rehearsal scripts rewires old loops.How changing your environment reduces decision fatigue and supports long-term habits.Episode References/Links:Amy Ledin's Website - https://www.leanbodiesconsulting.comAmy Ledin's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/amy_ledinLean Bodies Consulting's - https://facebook.com/leanbodiesconsultingF* It Podcast - https://beitpod.com/fitpodEpisode 5: Amy Ledin - https://beitpod.com/amyledinAtomic Habits by James Clear - https://a.co/d/874dad4Book: Your Big Leap Year by Gay Hendricks - https://a.co/d/ick374uJourney To The Heart by Melody Beattie - https://a.co/d/fT1sQ1cWillpower Doesn't Work by Benjamin Hardy - https://a.co/d/f5KQW2vLove Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It by Kamal Ravikant - https://a.co/d/8jKmYAhNicole Lepera - https://theholisticpsychologist.comGuest Bio:Amy Ledin is redefining what it means for midlife women to “look like they train.” As a coach and entrepreneur, she combines strength training, simplified nutrition, and deep mindset work to help women create bodies that reflect their discipline, not their diets. Through her unique tools; the Meal Card Method, Daily Agreement Cards, and Breakthrough Rehearsal Scripts, Amy helps women escape the all-or-nothing loop, rebuild consistency, and sustain results for life.A stage four non–small cell lung cancer fighter, Amy brings a rare blend of resilience and realness to everything she teaches, grounding her coaching in lived experience rather than perfection. She's also a devoted mom of five, a podcaster, and a community leader who believes identity work is the true driver for change. Whether she's guiding her clients or helping them script the actions of their “future self,” Amy's mission is to help women trust themselves again. 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It's after Sarah Blakely. I pretend that I try to show up as her because I'm not as outgoing and as creative and fun and bubbly as Sarah. But when I create that character, my current self doesn't see it as a threat if I just say I'm just playing this role, you know. I'm coming on the podcast, playing a role that helps me show up as my best self. Like, I think a lot of us like forget that we have to, you know, we got to do it enough to become it.Lesley Logan 0:29  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:13  Be It babe, holy moly, this episode is one for the books. I mean, her first one was one for the books. She's fabulous and she's amazing. We cover a lot of topics. You can insert whatever it is that you want to be until you see in for what we're talking about in these ideas. Basically, I wanted to have Amy Ledin back, and she is back, and, like, top notch, better than ever. And the reason is, is because we are going to do a really fun series on habits, and Amy is the queen of how she gets people to create habits that are not torturous and also that allow them to really become the person they want to be. And I mean, every different example is a be it till you see it. So this week, it'll be Amy Ledin plus a recap, and then next week I'll kick off a series on how I help people with habits. There are two different ways, but you then can choose the adventure that works for you. And I'm really excited about it. I believe in what we just discussed in this episode so much, and I can't wait to hear what's coming. And then I want you to let us know, like, how are you doing? Are you able to make the habits to help you be it till you see it? So get ready, buckle up. We have a few weeks to talk about this topic. And first, it's the one and only Amy Ledin. Lesley Logan 2:24  Okay, Be It babe. Holy frickin moly. I can't even believe it. I am so freaking excited to see the woman who's on my screen right now. Like, I have saw it on my day. Like, this, is it two o'clock yet? Is it two o'clock yet? Amy Ledin is back. Episode Five. Can you (inaudible) I don't know what number this is but it's over 600.Amy Ledin 2:44  Wow, that's crazy.Lesley Logan 2:47  I know. I know. And you, oh, I have to tell you this, Amy, my mom heard your episode when it came out. She literally still only talks about that one out of all the podcasts. She's like, that woman with the cards, that woman, and then you had, like, the boss, the boss bitch, and like something else, and she's still Amy Ledin 3:06  Oh yeah, your inner bitch, inner boss. Lesley Logan 3:07  Oh yes, she quotes you to this day. It's been four years. Amy Ledin 3:13  I love it. I love it. Lesley Logan 3:15  So Amy, in case people are new to us, which there's probably a lot of people. Can you remind them who you are and what you rock at? Amy Ledin 3:22  Yes. Okay, so I'm Amy Ledin, as you know, and I am a fat loss and mindset coach, is what I would say. That's my forte. But I'm a podcaster. I'm a mom of five kids, you know, I'm a wife, a homeschool mom, you know, all the things you know, I'm someone that has overcome, you know, I've lost 90 pounds. I am a stage four non small cell lung cancer, you know, fighter. I am now, right now, I've been in remission. I wouldn't call real remission, but no evidence of active disease three times, and this fourth time that it's come back, it's spread to my brain. So I'm on all new medications. So I would say that's the biggest update since the last time I've been on here. But I am, you know, I am a perimenopause, menopause, you know, menopause coach, and that's because my audience is growing up with me. You know, I'm 47 so I'm in the thick of it as well. So I'd say that's who I am.Lesley Logan 4:18  Oh my gosh, Amy, I had no idea it had gone into the brain. That is because Brad and I were like, I wonder how she's doing. I wonder if she's back in remission. That has to be hard. Like, is it hard, I mean, or maybe you just don't want to feel sorry, like, maybe it gets annoying to feel sorry for yourself, like, I just want to, like, do you mind if we chat about it a little bit?Amy Ledin 4:34  It is annoying and no, and you know what? I love that you're just like, you ask it, because people don't. So it's been almost a year since I found out that it had spread, and it was a shock. Like, I was really shocked. In fact, I was coming back to my podcast. I'd already recorded several episodes, and then I got that news, and I just, it really did knock me. I really got this, like, just attitude of just, I was really angry. Like, I'm like, I don't get it. Like, what am I doing wrong, which is just the wrong attitude. But that took me a few months to kind of feel sorry for myself. And then it was like going back to all the things that you know I needed to do to, you know, all the things that I always did before. You know, my keeping my promises and having a routine and building these habits and really living in a future, you know, like living as if I am already there. And you know, that helped me kind of come back. But I will say, you know, it's really only been a couple months of me really feeling like myself again, because I've just been battling a lot of that, you know, loops of just, you know, panic and fear, and am I going to be lucky this time? And you know, all of that, so, you know, it's then I've really had to, honestly, just get into a high gear. And this is what I'm always good at, is when, you know, shit hits the fan. I am someone that does the opposite of what most do, and that is, they, they just crumble. Like I said, I had three, I say three months of, like, feeling sorry for myself. I was still operating at what would probably be someone else's like, 85% I think where mine came in was when I don't believe in myself, like, or if I'm having that fear, I can't do, say, podcasting, because it was one of the areas that I have to be super authentic. So it's the first thing that actually goes off the books, and it's actually the thing that I used to love the most, because it was, like my therapy, so I almost have to be in full alignment for me to come back. So like, right now I'm getting ready to relaunch, and I'm actually excited for the first time, because I'm like, Okay, I'm living it. I can share because, you know, you know this yourself, like it's an energy transfer that you're doing right now with other people, and so it is all about having the right energy to really get into that person. And so that's kind of, you know, where, it has been hard. But you know what, like, what makes me feel the best is showing up at a very super high level, levels that people would say, why are you even trying this? And that is just because I am proving that you can do so much.Lesley Logan 7:04  Yeah, I love what you said, like, you know, living as if I'm there, because that's the whole be it till you see it motto, right? Like, it's just, like, we're just getting there. And I just think, like, it's, I feel you in that, like, when something doesn't go my way, like, I am also very good at hitting, like, hitting the fifth gear. Like, when Covid happened, we were in the air coming back from Cambodia. I was like, okay, hold on, what don't they have? They need this. Oh, I can do that. Okay, there's that, right? And that's how we bought this house. Recently, we had a situation, and we got the worst news in the entire world, and the first thing for me to shut down is like, I have to, we talked about this before we hit record, I have to add value. I have to be on integrity. I have to have integrity with my word like that is such a value of mine. So we're going to even though we weren't allowed, what happened is, we're turning around the border with the right paperwork and the right permit, and they still wouldn't let us in. I was like, we're still going to do the event. We're still going to operate integrity. They're still getting everything that they wanted. They just don't get to hug me in 3d but I'm still going to do it. But the thing that had to go away is I couldn't show up on Instagram because I, like, all I wanted to do was, like, cry and go, like, this fucking sucks. But I'm not that person that I'm not the person who does that this fucking sucks. I'm the person who's like, Okay, this is what I went through, and this is what I did, and this is what I'm doing, right? So not that, like, my situation is all brain cancer. I want to make sure the listeners here, I heard that. I can hear that, but like, I can understand, like having to let go of something you love or that you enjoy doing, or that as an outlet for people to get to know you until you're in a place where you can go, okay, how am I going to operate in this way? Amy Ledin 8:36  Well, and no one wants, I mean, I'm not saying it needs to be like this toxic positivity, but day in and day out of someone just like being boohoo is also not a place that's really going to serve anyone, especially myself. I'm really not a big believer in sitting in it, so even when I'm in pain, my family knows I'm rarely going to tell you that I'm hurting or that I'm tired. Just know that's pretty much always for me. But why would I verbalize things like, I mean, your body goes to the direction that you speak to it, and so I just don't do that. So I'll take on the makeup, and I will do my hair and those things, because I see my reflection all day long. I really believe that's a big superpower that people don't realize. Like, you want to see a reflection of what you want to be feeling like, I don't feel that great. But when I see that other reflection of like, I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, versus man, if I didn't do anything, I think it just make me start to go more downhill. And I mean, everybody's different, but I'm a really big believer you got to show up as the person you want to be. Lesley Logan 9:37  Yeah, I love that, and it's true. Like, I not only do I it's not about toxic positivity. We had a really great episode about, like, happiness, and I was, I interviewed her, like, when there was the fires in California, and I said, you know, like, there's a bunch of people who like, why their houses are burning down. They're like, this is gonna mean something. And I'm like, that's not feeling your feelings. Like, yes, I do believe that everything does happen for a reason. I do believe that like, when doors close, it's because another door is going to open. Like, of course, but in the moment, you are allowed to feel the feeling. Amy Ledin 10:06  (inaudible) time. Lesley Logan 10:07  Yeah, like, feel your feelings. Amy Ledin 10:09  No one needs to tell me as I'm getting the news. Amy, this is because you know what, you can handle it. You know what I'm about ready to like, I'm, you know, that was the biggest thing that I really got tired of people like, oh my gosh, you're so strong. Like, I'm actually tired of being strong. You know what I mean?Lesley Logan 10:25  I do know what you mean. I'm going to say you're so resilient. I don't check on you. I'm like, I'm so tired of being resilient over it. But I do, I do think that, like, at what I also cannot handle is, like, why I can't be the person who's like, going to tell you what I'm going through in the process. I don't want the apologies. I don't want the I'm sorry for you. I don't want any of that stuff, because now I have to respond to that, because now I have to say, thank you.Amy Ledin 10:52  Well, I didn't even actually, and, you know, trust me, I'm going through therapy for this exact thing is, I actually didn't tell my family for a few months. I wanted to get like, several treatments, and my, not my, not my immediate family, like Mike's, like my parents and stuff, because I didn't want to go through that cycle right there. I wanted to already have an answer for, like, this is the diagnosis. This is what we're doing. I've already been doing it, and I've even had XYZ because I didn't, you know, you'll not see anything online about it, you know. You know, in our own private, you know, we have a paid group of women, 550 women, that, obviously I did, because I'd lost a lot between one of our training blocks, and I knew they'd see it in the filming. I film every round, you know, videos, and so I was open with them. But otherwise, I'm not that way, because I don't like the I don't like, to go through the phase of, like, let me give you, you know, I'm, I don't need that. Lesley Logan 11:45  Yeah. Well, also, like, it's, you know, you have to feel the feelings. You can grieve, the things that, like, were what you were expecting. And then it's true, we have to go. So what can I do? Like, what are the actions that I can take? Like, what is gonna what if I'm in pain all day, like, what can I do to make myself feel good and like, I agree, like, my days are better when I, like, Get up and get dressed for the day and put things on and like, go, okay, whoa. You know, we nailed that. Amy Ledin 12:11  Yeah. And I mean movement, like, I've had some really rough times over this last year where I've had to learn that if you get no mobility at all, it actually just increases that, the aches, the pains, you know, I had, I think it was like three days that I actually did not leave the house. And finally, like day three of my goal was just to get to the end of our driveway. And I just started to think, like, I mean, even if it's small, that is so much better than and getting sunlight, and, you know, all the things that just, really, honestly, I think, help our body. We're kind of like a plant that we need to, like, get out and, like, get in some soil, and, you know, so that's something that, you know, really, I think, is important, you know, as well. Lesley Logan 12:55  Yeah, I know, like, a body in motion, like, stays in motion, right? Like, it's easier for me. Yeah, I came home from my tour, and my girlfriend saw me like that next morning at the gym. She's like, wow, you're so good at being consistent. I'm like, first of all, I do have a trainer that will not renew with me if I don't check this off on the app. Second, I paid for it, so we're gonna do it. Third, if I use the excuse, oh, I just got home or I have a trip, I will never have, oh, consistent workout, and then I'm always having to start again, and then that is just like, never gonna feel good.Amy Ledin 13:30  And I say that to clients that I'm like, think about the person that's traveling all the time, like you're taking five days to land back into your life from a trip, and then like, five more days to get, like, recalibrated and like, that's just, you know, wasted time, right? So, yeah, and, I mean, you know this yourself, like, having habits, having routine, having structure, is just one more thing that I think helps, like, even your body feel at peace. At least for me, like, that's the last thing I need to be worrying about, is that. So it just feels good to get right back into like, I need to make sure I'm getting my walks in. I need to make sure I'm getting, like, my sleep routine, you know, like, that's a skill in itself, right?Lesley Logan 14:09  Yes. Well, that that is, I mean, like, everyone's like, how's it gonna be back? You must be tired. I'm like, oh no, well rested. Very behind on emails, because my sleep is going to come before my emails. But thank you so like, I'm well rested, all of my all of my Pilates, all of my weight training, all happened, not the emails, you know, you gotta have priorities. Amy Ledin 14:30  (inaudible) with the self-care. Lesley Logan 14:31  Yeah, so, okay, so you brought it up. So kicking off a habits block, because I hate the new year, new you stuff. It's not my favorite thing. I know you like, I've heard you talk about, like, upgrades. Like, I think that each year is a time for us to reflect. And like, we can think about the change what I'm bringing into the new year, but like, you're still you going into the new year with more experiences and and, and also smarter, because you've hopefully reflected on those and you've thought about these things, you experienced them. So I wanted to help people, like, understand how they can be it till they see it with their habits. And of course, you come to mind because people loved Episode Five. It's probably one of the most cited episodes we've had. It's come up many times. People still talk about it. But what are some of the tools that you use to to have habits? Because, my goodness, like, even with you've got five kids, you've got a business, you home school like you have to have habits or probably nothing gets done.Amy Ledin 15:24  Totally and we actually do it as a family. So I'm a big believer, you know, habits are not sexy because they need to be forever. So I'm a big believer in that you've got to make your habits fun, and you got to get creative around gamifying things that help you, like, level up. So you have your like, daily habits that you want to eventually just become forever things like, for me, it's like a daily walk, you know, three liters of water, like things that I just want to be background noise, but for a season, I mean, I may need to put them, like right front and center. And so we started creating something that we call 5 for 50 and it's five habits for 50 days. And the reason we do this is you pick five habits. But the key is, it's five that you need to do for the full 50 days, and four of them you have to intend to keep long term, like, don't start something for 49 days or 50 days that you don't really think maybe, you know, it might be a smaller version of that, but it's daily things. And so we do it as a family, you know, sometimes twice a year, typically like when mom's going through something hard, and I'm like, hey, you know what? Let's do 5 for 50 as a family. Because I always know, then we push ourselves like we just, I mean, I just feel better about myself. And so. (inaudible)Lesley Logan 16:35  And also it sounds like it gives you something else to focus on. You know. Amy Ledin 16:38  It is and and it's fun to see what the kids do like we so we did four that you wanted to do indefinitely, and the fifth one was some personal growth area where you want to dabble in it to see if it's like something you like. So, like one of my son, my 26 year old, he did that he had to draw for 30 minutes every day for, you know, 50 days. You know, my other daughter did guitar. And it also taught them that, like, wow, when you do, you know the compounding effect of this habit over time. And so I like, you know what I like about a timeline on something again, is that habits aren't sexy. They get boring for people. And so when you gamify, or when you do something where you're like, okay, I have a block, I have a start and a finish, what you're hoping at the finish is to drop those off of like you're right in front of you, writing down, and they just have become part of, like, your identity. They've just they you're now just pulled to do those things, because they've just become automatic. Now I test myself once I take them off, if I see that they're not I might reintroduce that like on say, like my DAC cards that I talked about on Episode Five, where I then write them in a structure of, like, these are the things that I'm keeping promises to during the day, but the Five For HIT 50 is really it's a habit one, there I tell my kids, I'm like, these are things that you know, maybe you're even doing them, but now you want to do them with like perfection, because you know how you do anything is how you do everything. Like, I tell people, I anchor my morning with my bed making. And it's funny, because when I make my bed, I literally take everything off. Like, Eric's like, is it seriously that, you know, necessary, to do? I'm like, yes, because it is a metaphor for how I want my day to go and how I want to treat myself, and that I don't cut corners. I don't I treat it like it's a hotel bed where I want the sheet sure. could I pull, like, we hardly move some nights where I literally could probably pull it back, but there's probably some little scenes down in the bottom. And I do find this. I find that it takes I've set a timer once, it only takes me, like three minutes and like 32 seconds, and I'm like the whole time I say mantras to myself, but I say this is a metaphor for how I want to show up. So I tell my kids, maybe they're habits you're already doing. Maybe you're brushing your teeth morning and night, but maybe it's going to be morning and night for the full two minutes, you know, with intention or whatever it may be, right? And what the kids see is these little things that become measurable really build your confidence. They start to think outside of what those are. And they're like, big fingers, you know, I find that my kids start coming up with ideas of, like, businesses, and that's just because they're believing in themselves. You know, like my daughter, she's like, I'm gonna sign up for soccer. And I'm like, Oh, really. Because she's like, going into high school and she's never played, and this was Leilani this last year, and I'm like, I'm so proud of her. Lesley Logan 19:21  She's going to high school? Amy Ledin 19:23  She's grade nine. Can you believe that?Lesley Logan 19:25  I can't Amy because I thought I haven't aged a bit. Amy Ledin 19:30  Yeah. So she, and she decided that, you know, out of the blue, that she wanted to start that, and I knew a lot of it had to do with doing these types of personal development things, where, when you can start measuring these habits like it's inevitable you're going to feel better about yourself. I mean anything from like Atomic Habits that I learned was when you start to even if it's two push ups a day, it's measuring that and seeing that compound effect over time. And it's not about the push ups. I tell people, it's what it represents that you do what you say you're going to do, and that you do it to the fullest. They're not like, half assed, like, that's why when I say what you write, you respect it, like, when you say you're gonna make your bed every morning. Don't just, like, throw it, because that's really how you're going to show up in all these other areas. Are you going to be the person that cuts the corner? Or are you the person that it's like, when I say I'm doing it till 5:30 it's till 5:30. Do you know what I mean, it's not 5:28.Lesley Logan 20:22  I actually really like the idea of like, one of them can be one, you just like, are testing out. Because I do think that when people are creating like habits that they want in their perfectionist tendencies, it's like, it's got to be all or nothing, and they're not giving themselves this permission. It's almost like, let me see like for right now. So I interviewed a girl who talked about tarot, and I said, I've always wanted to know about tarot because I was like, never allowed to play with tarot and and she's like, she's like, she's like, yeah, tarot actually was in the church. It was a way for you to self-reflect. And I was like, oh, well, tell me more. She's like, yeah, no, it was way to self-reflect, and you can actually use it as a tool to kind of figure out what's going on in your heart and your mind. I was like, oh, what a cool way for me to journal. And I have ever since hearing from like, interviewing her. I'm like, maybe I so I was like, I want to learn this, but then when you go to learn something new, it's like, it's hard, it's hard to take in the new stuff when you got the other stuff. And so I've, like, tried different books, and I was like, okay, here's what I do. I'm going to take this app. I'm going to do it for 30 days, but now I'm going to just put as my five for 50, and I'm going to see if, after 50 days, do I still want to learn this. Because it's also okay for me to say, you know, that was interesting and I didn't do what I wanted to do, and that's okay, you know, we can let things go, but we gave it our full effort.Amy Ledin 21:38  And telling your brain you can stop it at 50. Some of these long term habits that, like, let's say meditation, like, let's say you've wanted to dabble in it, but you're like, the idea of knowing it's something you really should implement forever kind of just seems like daunting. I'll be honest. Like, I'm like, oh crap, something I gotta do forever. Let's just wait to do that. But if you tell me, hey, just dabble in it for 50 days, see how you feel now be 100% for those 50 days, because that's the key. Like, it is crazy what happens when you go all in on anything, even if it's five minutes, if you're like, Hey, I'm going to just for five minutes a day, do this like our kids, because we let them choose the duration, and we did allow them within the first week of once we started it, you could change like, like, my one son, he was like, 30 minutes of drawing every day was just too much. I realized within the first few days that like sitting there with something that I'm not even, like, familiar with yet, because he's, like, he's 26 trying to get into it. So he and me, within the first week, we let them redefine the agreement you don't want to wait too long, because sometimes that's just your voice of compromise going, oh, so that's why it's like a seven day window. We say, okay, you've got seven days to come back to the drawing board. And I think he shortened his by 15 to 15 because he's like, realistically, I'm gonna hate it if I tell myself this, whereas, like my other kid was like, I'm gonna bump mine to 20 minutes, because 10 is not long enough or, you know, but it was really good for them to see what they were doing. But the compounding effect, like, I think we had one kid that decided to do, like the tennis bound like every day, just practice the hand eye coordination, which honestly made me realize, gosh, I need to do this, because my hand eye is not that great. He did this for 50 days. You become like a Michael Jordan, like, it is the compounding effect that people do not realize. Like, all you got to do is do something consecutively and like, over and over to get good, but knowing there's an end in sight, like, it helped me get back into journaling. Because I was like, okay, I just got to do it for 50 days. Let's see if this really is, like, worth doing the rehearsal scripts. And at the 50 days, I was like, holy crap. Like, it's actually making me feel better, you know, but I wouldn't have given it a shot, because I'm like, I don't want to add another thing into my life. Lesley Logan 23:42  I love that you said that Amy, because I think you and I, one of the things that, like, we became fast friends, is like, we are committers. We say we're if we say we're gonna do something, we're gonna do it. We show up for it. We have a lot of habits that we're really good at. Some, because we're humans, we like, go up. But I it's also like, for me, I'm like, hold on before I say I'm gonna do that. Like, where is that going to end in my day? Because I don't want to be like, I didn't do that today, because I hate that feeling like, that is my worst feeling. So I too, am like, okay, hold on. But it's like, oh, for 50 days. Well, then I can really see if I like it, and I can also see if I got good at it. I could also see, like, you know, it didn't really change anything. So I can let it go.Amy Ledin 24:21  Totally. And writing it in a scripting way, like I find, like, even with my DACs, one area that I've changed with myself is the way you say things to your brain really matters, and it really needs to be identity shifting, and that you're like, I want to, I'm going to, you know, practice the guitar for 30 minutes every day for 50 days, because I want to show myself that committing to something that typically I resist because it's hard and there's a learning curve, like, go on with the details to yourself so that sticks more, because every day, like growth is hard, like I, I hate to break it to people. It's the only place, I mean, like, hardness is where you actually grow. And, I mean, it freaking sucks, like, when this came back and people are like, Oh, you'll grow. I'm like, you know, I don't want to, but I actually can appreciate after the fact that I'm like, there's another layer to me that I'm obviously, like, uncovering through this. I don't want to be told that right in the moment. I don't think anyone should, and I think that, you know, just and I really hate when people apologize and go, oh, but you have cancer. It is all relative to you. It's like trauma to your body. It doesn't matter if it's like you tripped over a pebble or you got shot by a gun, it's how your body reacted to that and how it sees it. So I never want to discount that, because I feel like my clients have just as big, they feel like just as big of problems in those moments, especially to their bodies, as it does to me. So it's really like trying to be aware of that and seeing your habits, like, why are you making this a habit? You know, what's the reason behind this? Like, I used to be one of those that like make especially when I, you know, probably around when I first met you, it was like making the list and doing the charts. I mean, I have like, seven different journals I was using and trying to, you know, color code. And it just was too much pause and go. I mean, why am I doing this? What is the long term gain of this habit right here? And really try to tie it to the identity that you're chasing. Like, is it gonna help your health character and you becoming like your best self? Is it, you know, or is this just like an ego booster that you're gonna post on Instagram, that you're doing cold plunges? What's the real reason behind it? Because I find that we are so, you know, geared to be like, now we're doing colostrum, next we're doing greens. And my habits to do 30 days of greens. Lesley Logan 26:45  Oh my God, Amy, thank you so much. Everyone is like, on this colostrum kick. And I like, obviously, it's not human colostrum, but like, my sensitivity chart came back, and she's like, human colostrum. And I was like, that's so fascinating. Like, I'm not having that. But I'm also like, I'm also like, not gonna like, now I'm like, I'm like, all there's this. Everyone is like, and now we're on to this now. And it's so funny, because we have been on the on Instagram for work, and we see our friends, and it's like, I do have a cold plunge. I love my cold plunge. I am not going for 15 minutes. I get in there, and the first thing in the morning it wakes me up. That is why I do it. So for habits, why it's like I get it because I I have the hardest time remembering what day it is and why am I up in the morning. And I love the morning. So I get in and I read three books. They're each daily message books, because I wanted to read them. Yeah, I read, Gay Hendrick says, Your Big Leap Year. So I read one page of that. I read, I think it's Melody Beattie's, like Journey to the Heart, and I read someone else's and it's like I read, and they're often different messages, but I whatever one that sticks with me then I think about that as I go on my morning walk, and that's how I do it. And I found that was taking me a long time to get out on the morning walk, so I have a cold plunge for that, but I find, to your point of the why, why are you doing this? Because it's the end thing to do. It's what they're saying the next perimenopausal woman should be doing or shouldn't be doing, because I have people like, you shouldn't be cold plunging. I'm like, back off. It makes me feel good.Amy Ledin 28:12  It's a crazy world. I mean, I'm even in the industry, and I even say, wow, I feel for females these days. Because you know what? You get really bamboozled. I mean, people even, like they're doing a real they'll even show, over here, like a medical journal study, that they'll pop up and go and according to this, you should, well, now, if you're smart like me, and you want to be, you know, funny, you go check what that is. Well, it'll be like a research study on like, 85 year olds. And I'm like, man, context, please. But because they're like, a white coat doctor, and they're coming, you know, like, and they have 100,000 followers. And trust me, I am guilty of it too. When I was looking for back help, I'm not a chiropractor, so, like, I'm at the mercy of what I find. It's just like a person coming to the fat loss space, right? So I'm looking at, like, oh, they have a million followers. I mean, you see this in the Pilates space. Like, it's really, really scary. I think we're going to get back going full circle. It'll start to be referral. People are only going to trust who has because now everyone's been through something, and they've all had an experience. So now they're like, tell me who you (inaudible).Lesley Logan 29:18  I actually agree with you, because of all the AI stuff. Like, now I'm like, I actually go to Brad and go is this real? Do you think this is real before, like, I share it because, like, it's so easy, and now there's so much marketing that's using chat bots and AI that I think people are gonna stop using the socials to find even though that's where they it's been going that way to start finding things. I think people are gonna stop because it's gonna be referral. Because, like, you do. You know a real human who's acting like a real human, and it's but I agree. I mean, you're in the fat loss space. I'm in the Pilates space. I have so many people going, well, this is Pilates, and I'm like, no, honey, it's not, but no, I'm not going to go around telling people what is and isn't, because I'm not here to be in a fight with people. I'm here to help people. So I'm not going to help with an imitation.Amy Ledin 29:59  We're the same. I don't have enough time in my day to come hate on what you're doing. You if you think what you're doing is working for you, do it. I support you. And I think there's more than one way. Now, I think Pilates and I think even strength training, there are certain biomechanical like things to it. But I am not going to be a person that's a coach that sits and just like trashes everybody else you know, and does videos about them. I don't think that that helps, you know, personally, I think, and maybe it does, but the energy that I would be working in in that space would never make me be a creator in the way that I want to be, because I think I'd just be, you know. Lesley Logan 30:35  Oh, I just think in the industry you have, yeah, and I think so I feel like I love the honesty and like, it's so I mean, like most of the people listening are women, it is so easy to be bamboozled, but what I love about you and your ideas here, it's like, what do you want? Like, what do you want? And then why do you want it? Because I actually don't think that your why has to be something stellar, but you do have to know why. Because I think, like, do you want to run a marathon because you want a habit of running? Well, then we can, we should probably don't have to run a marathon. We can change the habit. Or are you wanting to run because you have a friend that you want to keep up? Or is it because you want to, like, what's the why? So that you can, one, test the habit, and your Five for 50, or two, maybe it's the wrong habit, like, maybe that's not the thing that you should be doing. Once you figure out the why, there might be an easier or more accessible one to you.Amy Ledin 31:29  And make the habit something that long term is going to give you the biggest bang for your buck. Maybe it's not following a macro plan right away. Maybe it's actually meal prepping, like I, you know, I tell people, do you have to earn the right to lose fat? So like my daughter Kamele, this last year wanted to go on like, her first diet, and she's 22 and so I said, well, before I'm even going to give you a meal plan that has macros on it, you need to prove to me that you're actually going to live the identity of the fit person. Fit people, they prep meals. Fit people have a fridge full of stuff. They don't come home and have like, I mean, that's just not how they live. They fuel themselves, right? So I said, what I want you to do is just set some meal times improve over the next few weeks that you're going to pack meals. I don't even care if it's I don't care what it is that you're packing. It's the habit of the identity of that person. And then I broke down the macros, and it's great, because she doesn't associate, like being a fit person, because she's lost 20 pounds, because she just dialed in and titrated those meals. But it was all about the identity of that fit person and how now she's like, I don't associate it. She goes, it's funny. In fact, everyone at my work, she works at Lulu, and they're like, wow, Kamele, you started eating more, and now you're like, 20 pounds lighter, because she was, like, packing her meals and being on a set, you know, routine with it, and fueling herself, right? And so, plus, it taught her too, this was it's not about your macro breakdown, honey, because she even lost weight, even just packing the meals and, like, living that way. I said, it's because you were intentional. You were prioritizing protein. You were eating on on a, on a, on a routine, like set times your leptin and ghrelin, like that, like, so find those five like in those habits. Maybe it's something that's going to get you the bigger you know, the lower hanging fruit. And honestly, to the brain, meal prep sounds a lot easier than follow my macros 100% for 50 days. That can seem really daunting to the person that's like, struggled, maybe they've had food issues or binge issues and all that. Lesley Logan 33:26  I think this is I will always highlight. I love when, like, all my friends who are coaches of this space, most people are just not eating enough, and they're not eating intentionally. And so, like, I just, like, want to highlight, yes, well, you can often eat more and lose weight, if that's the journey you want to go on, most people start eating enough or not eating the right things. But I love, you brought up, this a couple times, so let's just break it down. Identity, like the identity of the person. So it's like, it's beyond the why. It's like, who you want to be and what do they do, and then doing that now.Amy Ledin 33:59  Yes, it's totally around your Be It, it's like you need to write. I mean, it's like, we make our clients create a health character. What does she look like? What is she wearing? What does her daily routine look like? What's her fridge look like? What's her closet look like? What size is she wearing? Not that those matter, but they do to your brain to start to really see and paint the picture, because they've done too many studies in all these areas, whether it be, I mean, lottery winners, big, huge studies on why do almost 95% of them go bankrupt after we're talking like tens of millions of dollars if they win. Because, you know what, their identity is, still of a poor person. Right? So fat loss, 95% of people that lose it actually regain, it's already hard enough to lose it, so you work so hard to get there. So I don't, it's why that's such a big part of the component for our clients is the last thing I want to do is see you in two years from now, because you just got really good at disciplining yourself for a season. I want this to be who you are, and you got to commit to who that person is, and what does that look like for that person. You know what I mean?Lesley Logan 35:02  Yeah, yeah. So I think that's, it is totally Be It. It's just like, it's like, I want to start a business. Like, well, what does that person do with okay, the business is working. It's rolling. It's all the things you thought it would be like, how do they get up? What do they wear? What is their schedule like? What is that happening? And then, because you start to do the things or thinking like that. It makes it so much easier to step up the next thing, yeah, no, the macros thing like. Amy Ledin 35:25  It's not a threat. And look at it from a brain standpoint, your brain does not see it as a threat. It comes back to like, it's like the Sasha Fierce with Beyonce, like that was a create a character she created. My business character, I named her Amy Blakely. It's after Sarah Blakely. I pretend that I try to show up as her because I'm not as outgoing and as creative and fun and bubbly as Sarah. But when I create that character, my current self doesn't see it as a threat. If I just say I'm just playing this role, you know, I'm coming on the podcast, playing a role that helps me show up as my best self. Like I think a lot of us, like, forget that we have to, you know, we got to do it enough to become it, right?Lesley Logan 36:05  Yes, yes. Well, I think, like, so many people go, oh, this is like, I don't want to fake it till I make it. You're not because, like, I have found, you know, like, you have a bad, let's just say you have a bad night's sleep, but you have a presentation that day. You don't go and go, guys, I'm so tired, and give you a presentation. No, you step up to the person who could be the person who believes that does a presentation nine times out of 10. You actually feel better when the presentation is over, because you you are acting as if you're the person who was doing a great presentation and became that person. That is what's happening. Yes, yeah.Amy Ledin 36:38  And epigenetics shows us like, you know, if you follow Nicole LePera, I've got to give her credit, she's been doing these, what they call Future Self Journaling, where she believes that every day you should script out your day. We do a version of it in our community where I want them to even script out like their their day as a as their health character. And because of what we've seen in the brain is that the more that you wire that future of like it sure, it's not who you are yet, but it's who you want to be. Your brain actually doesn't see the difference, and they're now seeing that the brain wires that way. So if you're in your 40s, 50s or older, I always say if you have struggled with fat loss, and you are already at this age, you have a rewiring issue that you need to address. Because if 95, 91% of your thoughts every day are the same, statistics will show me, you will continue to come back to this old person that you say you are and talk about and believe in. So if you're trying to become like a business owner and become like owning a Pilates studio or whatever it may be, you have to start scripting. And the older you get, and I just say it's (inaudible). Lesley Logan 37:40  So like, do you just like script out like, 5 a.m. 6 a.m. or do you like go, I am so and so doing this, like, what does it look like?Amy Ledin 37:46  It's doing this, it's more of a behavior like you'll have an outline of, like, I, you know, as I wake up today, I effortlesly, you know, keep my small promises in the morning. And you might at first detail them out, because the whole point is to this doesn't change very often, your script stays the same because you're trying to work on an area of your life, like in therapy. It's like, if you're an overreactor, if you're struggling with worthiness, it's it's a daily thing, because you're trying to show that you can change who you are, and now epigenetics is proving it, which is positive. Because here's the thing, you may have been born into someone because now they're showing with epigenetics, like it's connected even in the womb. So that really was hard for me, because when I got pregnant with Leilani, I was in a really, you know, I it was broke up my family, you know, I'd had an affair. So my pregnancy came in a place where it was a very unwanted pregnancy, and I talked, probably very negatively to myself. Well, this next book that Nicola is coming out with talks all about how they're showing and so those children can actually already be born anxious and have like attachment styles based on just the way that you have talked. So at first I was like, man, what a depressing thing to hear. But her whole point is to teach us like we're all broken humans, like we've all come from some sort of crap. And so the power of this book was to teach us that our brain is actually the neuroplasticity and our ability to change. If you're an introvert, you can become an extrovert. If like you are, you know, you say you're one way, you really can actually change. And it's doesn't take long, you know, it's 50. It's kind of similar to habits. It's about that 60 day mark we're we've tested it out with clients. I've done beta testing, and now we make it a part of our program where for 60 days, I have to do this journaling, because I'm so tired of women grunting their way to reaching their goals. I want it to pull you. I want your identity to pull you to become that. And a lot of them are starting to go why is it suddenly feeling easier to meal prep stuff that I like my lazy self, you know, is always fighting. I'm like, because you're scripting about a new person, and your brain is just seeing that is the place I need to go. It's like, it doesn't even know the difference. It just thinks it needs to do it. So less resistance. So same thing with these habits. Try to find, you know, some connection to that identity, the way you write it because you want to have less resistance. You don't want to be like you know, otherwise you will try to use motivation to do it and it never is lasting. Lesley Logan 40:09  Motivation is this interesting thing that everyone thinks they need. Once I'm motivated, and it's like you just, and we'll talk about this in the habit series I've got coming out. Like motivation is one of the worst things you can it will help with something really hard. Like, if you have to do something that's really difficult, motivation is very helpful to, like, it's like the starter in the car. It only works to start the car, right? This is as far as my car metaphor is gonna go, because that's all I know about cars. And then it's like all the others. It's the gasoline. It's you putting the gas, putting your foot on the pedal, all that stuff. So but people think it's gonna, it's gonna show up every day. I cannot wait to be motivated to do anything. I would get nothing done. Nothing would none of the things I built would have have been built because of motivation. Amy Ledin 40:51  Yep, yep. And it's kind of aligned with willpower. I will say a book, I don't know if you've read it, but you would love it, and he'd be a great person to have on because I think he's a small author. It's called Willpower Doesn't Work, and it is a whole book on he's got studies in there, charts that show essentially that it is all about your environment. Like that is the key that most people it's it's everything, whether it be friendships, it be your actual physical environment, that that is way better than because willpower is finite, and like, you can't count on that. It's why, in the morning the cupcake is less tempting than, say, like, at night. So like, instead of, like, having the willpower of having that cupcake here all day, why is it at night? I want it. You need to see that your environment is more powerful. Hey, decision fatigue at the end of the night, I don't need to have things out that I'm already weak to or, anyways, you would just love it, because it's just made me stop shaming myself for stuff that I'm like, seriously, I need to change the environment. You know, I've even said to clients, the best time to really change a big habit, like a bad habit, like, I had a client, she's like, every night we sit on the couch, we eat a snack. I said, Hey, when's your next time you're out of town? Because having a break from your environment and then coming back into it is the best time to shift into a new habit. Now for the next several days, don't even sit on the couch like let your brain completely because it is all about connection and loops, you know, for most of us at this age.Lesley Logan 42:16  It's true. It's true. This year that I'm doing we talk about how to unravel a habit you don't like, and it's one of the things, and I'll dive deeper in the episode, but it's like, how what is the prompt that starts the sitting down on the couch? There is something that starts that, and if you don't know what that something is, you can get rid of your couch, and you're still gonna find something to sit on, because there's a prompt there. Amy Ledin 42:39  It's true. And yes, because it's it started earlier. I have a client right now that we've realized her overwhelm with work makes her go to any like, highly palette. It doesn't have to be chocolate chips. At first, she's like, it's the chocolate chips. I'm like, girl, no, tomorrow will be something different, but it's not about the pantry. I'm like, it starts earlier. And that you start to see failure in your day and overwhelm, and that loop is when I'm failing okay, this is kind of like my coping mechanism, you know, so much, and so it's interesting. I'm like, man, I feel like we're therapy one on one. But even in, you know, someone that wants to have a business, they're all parallel, all of it, because it's a personal development journey.Lesley Logan 43:18  Everything, whatever it is, like, that's why I like that identity and like you can see yourself in like different things. Anything that you want to do, and how it's like it, it we, it works the same. You, it's you have to prepare the environment. You have to know why you want to do it, and then you have to tell you have to believe that you can. And I think like because like you, you cannot shame yourself into something you want. It will not work. And you talk about, like, the clients, like, grit themselves to getting there, and then they're just be back in two years, because nothing changed, and they didn't become who they wanted to be on that journey. Oh my gosh. Okay. I mean, I, obviously, I could talk to you forever about this, because, like, this is just something I like to nerd about. But I just love that we think the same way on this, because it's really, it's really easy, I think, for people to, like, want to start 17 new things at the same time, or like, they, you know, and like, it's an I have to do it for an hour, and it's like, hold on, like, let's, you know, we got to adjust the timeline of what it is. And I really think, you know, making sure you know why you want to do it. The script thing is a really cool thing to add to it. I have to say, like, I kind of like the idea of like writing yourself a script for the day and how it's gonna go, that's a be it till you see it, and also, like a manifestation and a drawing in, I think that's really beautiful, Amy. Well, we're gonna take a quick break, and we're gonna find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you, and then we're gonna do your Be It Action Items. Amy Ledin 44:36  Okay. Lesley Logan 44:37  All right, Amy, where do you hang out? Where can they stalk you in the best way? Amy Ledin 44:42  I am, I'm on Instagram, you know, under amy_ledin if you are, like, still a Facebook person, though, I will say that is, like, where our business really lands. So it's under Lean Bodies Consulting. I post daily there, and then, you know, by the time this episode's out, my podcast, you know, which is called F* It! so you can find me there.Lesley Logan 45:00  I love your podcast. It's so great. I also want to say, like, I admire that you take pauses when you need to with it, because I think you are so good at podcasting. You're so wonderful at it. All of your episodes I've ever listened to are so good. And you're also allowed to be a human and take time for yourself. You have given us so much already, but you know how the show goes, we need Be It Action Items, bold, executable, intrinsic or target steps people can take to be it till they see it. I mean, the whole episode kind of was one, but anything you want to add or remind us.Amy Ledin 45:29  Well, you know what? I actually tied it to your acronym, to the DACs, and it's like, bold, one agreement that matters, like, pick one, like, maybe you need to start just with one. Executable is your E, you know, like, write it in real words, not vague. So be specific on what you're really shooting for. The intrinsic is link it to how you want to feel, not just like, how much you want to weigh, how much money. Like, how do you really want to feel there? What's the money? What's the scale going to give you? And then targeted, today, not someday. Like, be very specific.Lesley Logan 46:01  Oh, my God, that's brilliant. You're so good. I love it so much, you guys. I can't even wait to hear how this episode goes. It's just so fun to have you back and see what you're up to, and also just be reminded of, like, how powerful we all really are. Our minds are really powerful. And I love the science behind that. That book sounds amazing. I can't wait to read it. I'll have to have it on. You know what, before I go. And I'm gonna say this, because, in case anyone knows this person, I'm trying to get hold of them, there's a book called Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna do a little series on, like a self like, a week long series on self-love. Because everybody who talks about, I burnt out, I'm this. And the book the author, he says, You'll never burn out if you actually love yourself. Because if you truly loved yourself, you wouldn't say yes, when you mean no, you would actually, like take time for yourself. And that's so like, I think those two books sound like a nice little bookend, but also, like everything we're talking about here today, it's, it's all part of it, you know, it's all like holistic it's, we're not little compartments. So thank you for being you, Amy. You guys, make sure you check out her Instagram, her podcast, her Facebook. Tell her what your favorite takeaways are. You can tell me, I love it, but also tell her these words of affirmation are our love language also lets us know what your favorite parts are. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. You know, it's actually kind of difficult to go through all these like 5 for 50 alone. Sometimes it's kind of nice to have some friends to do it with, or your kiddos to do it with. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 47:27  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 48:10  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 48:14  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 48:19  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 48:26  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 48:29  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week's FYF lands right in the season of gratitude, and Lesley leans into the joy and clarity that come from naming the moments that matter. She shares a playful morning ritual, highlights a heartfelt reflection from eLevate member Ainsley, and opens up about how this podcast has reshaped her own sense of purpose as she grows older — a reminder that celebrating even the smallest steps keeps you grounded in your growth.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why a short morning dance can shift your energy before stepping into your day.How choosing a personal “power song” boosts confidence and sets your tone.How Ainsley's eLevate win highlights the clarity that comes from naming your gratitude.How mentorship and community support help you show up more authentically.How Lesley's reflection on podcasting can reshape how you see your own growth.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions@empowerwomenlegacy - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFTTdGrPn1P If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Happy Fuck Yeah Friday. Oh my God, a Friday. That's a holiday. Hopefully you have it off. I'm obsessed with taking holidays off that I don't do a lot of celebration on, and it's not like Brad and I just don't really cook Thanksgiving meal, and I don't even go to a lot of them, or we're invited. But like, there's something about like, the world is celebrating a day, or not the world, because this is Thanksgiving, so people are celebrating a day, and we're just like, putzing around, like, I love it, but that's not my win. This is about celebrating your wins, my wins, and being inspired and having an affirmation and reminding ourselves that like perfect is boring, being until you see it takes time. And my goodness, we're gonna start bragging about the things we do and inspiring others to do the same. So your inspiration for today, everyone's trying to sell you something. And, yeah, me too on OPC, but, but, but, really, what I want you to enjoy and get a kick out of this says the rule is you have to dance a little in the morning before you leave the house, because it changes the way you walk out into the world. And it reminds me of one of the episodes we had where she said you need to pick your be it till you see it song, and then you need to listen to it every day. And she said you have to listen to it. I'm like this inspiration is asking us to dance a little before we leave the house, because it changes the way we walk out into the world. So what song you're gonna play right now and dance to it on the world? I used to play Level Up every morning in my studio before my clients showed up. This was in 2018 and then I had a different song in 2019 but I'm telling you, it changed, it changed how I approached the whole day, because I was like, Oh my God, I am starting new companies, and I am in charge of the vision of where these are going and and also I still have to teach. And I'm I love this so much. I love, love, love this. And if you go to the link to watch it on Instagram, it's this cute little girl who is just, like, dancing. She is just dancing. This other little girl is like, I think I want to dance like she is. She's like, a little shy. The girl who's staring at her was like, that's me. That's me going, can I be her? Like, can I do that? And I'm telling you right now, we need to do it. We need to do it. You need to do it. So go out, well, don't, before you go out, play a song and then go out into the world being it till you see it. I'm obsessed with this one. Lesley Logan 3:16  So, okay, your wins. Ainsley Walker is back, and you know what I love about Ainsley is that reading her wins makes me relive I feel like I'm living the moment, watching in a movie. And you don't have to be so eloquent in the way you write your wins, but I'm just saying like, write your wins like you're like you're sharing it in a journal. You can relive them if you can, if you have the time, right? It really helps you reflect. So, wow, wow, wow. So this is both a win and a massive thank you. I chose this one because we are in a gratitude season, right? LL, Brad and Meredith, I could have put this in the eLevate group, but I would feel so selfish to all of you who perhaps haven't done eLevate yet. So I say it yet because it's a must. I arrived back last night from an incredible few days in Vegas with all the other eLevate retreaters. What was it? What was incredible is that no matter how experienced or new everyone was, they still had lots to learn and share from all in each other. We have moved lots and had so much fun taking time and investment to step out and do this. Felt big, but the outcome was more than I imagined. It reflected back to me with clarity, what I want my future and how to go about things for my own practice, my clients and my business. It's going to be exact an exciting few months, but first I'm going to move my happy jet-lagged body on my beautiful new mini barrel. Thank you all. Oh Ainsley, of course, you are so welcome, but also, thank you, because when you show up for yourself, it allows everyone else to show up for themselves, right? And so yes, thank you for the gratitude you are sending back to us. Of course, we love doing this, but we we can't do it without people like you who show up as authentically as you do, and then and give so generously and receive so much, right? And I'm just so excited because I have seen how the next few minutes went, and I have seen what you're doing, and it's nothing short of, remarkable is the wrong word, short of like, it's more than what you detail to me that you dreamed of, and I'm so stoked because you did it. You've been being it till you see it, since the moment we did Cambodia together, and I, the first time. And eLevate was so beautiful. I'm so glad you're in it. And for those who don't understand what I wonder what eLevate is, it's my mentorship program next year is completely sold out, but 2027 has a couple spots and I do a retreat with them at the house every year, and it's special to me because it's what Jay gave to me, and Jay's teachers gave to me, and I want to pay that forward into my own way and in a way that allows people to show up fully, authentically themselves, right? So thank you, Ainsley, because without you, I couldn't do what I'm wanting to do. Lesley Logan 6:02  All right, so it, it is an FYF, but it's also, you know, a season of gratitude. And I have a lot to be grateful for this year. The world is on fire. I have had more than my fair share of obstacles and frustrations in life and in business. What's fun is I get to sit here and record this early in a state of I'm actually extremely grateful. I'm grateful for the person I was when I envisioned this business so many years ago. I'm grateful for the people who've been part of it. I'm grateful massively for my team. I'm grateful for my dear, amazing friends. I am the point man who I love, people who don't need to talk to me every day. I like best friends who can talk every week or every other week, or maybe not for a month, but we can pick up where we started, like I love I'm so grateful because my friends are that, and they get that, and they understand that, and because this is Be It Till You See It Podcast, I know we say this often in the recaps, but you have to know that I'm so grateful for you, because this podcast has actually changed my perspective of myself and who I want to become and how I want to be it till I see it as I get older, and not in a way like I'm getting older, but like, what beauty can come as I get older and who I want to become, and so without you listening, I wouldn't get to do this. You don't just get to do a podcast just because, you know, you want to people do have to listen. I mean, I could, but then it would just be a fucking expensive, very expensive task, because you listen, because you listen, because you share your wins, because you send your questions in, because you send in your takeaways, it pushes me to become better at this every each and every year, and each interview has challenged me to be it till I see it in an in a better way. And isn't that how it is, like we envision, like what we want, and then the result is even better. Sometimes we don't get we want, but we got something better. And that is how I feel. And so I'm just absolutely so fucking grateful for you. And in case no one's told you that, today, I'm grateful for you. So go out there and Be It Till You See It. Thank you so much. Have an amazing day. Lesley Logan 8:18  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 9:00  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 9:05  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 9:10  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 9:17  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 9:20  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell break down the powerful conversation with keynote speaker and coach John Mollura, exploring how perfectionism, procrastination, and overthinking quietly chip away at your self-trust. They unpack why these three all stem from fear, how they derail the small promises you make to yourself, and why that matters more than you think. This recap is your reminder that confidence isn't a mystery; it's built through honest awareness and daily follow-through.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The shift from self-judgment to a seeker mindset that opens new direction.How changing lanes later in life reflects growth rather than starting over.The Big Three that derail meaningful actions by operating from fear.Breaking your own commitments as the root cause behind loss of self-trust.Why honoring tiny choices today makes you a hero to your future self.Episode References/Links:Black Friday Cyber Monday Sale - https://opc.me/bfcmOPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourPilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsPilates on Tour - https://www.pilates.comSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsJohn Mollura's Website - https://www.johnmollura.comJohn Mollura's Free Resources - https://www.johnmollura.com/freestuffEpisode 119: John Mollura - https://beitpod.com/ep119Episode 592: Dr. Jill Allen - https://beitpod.com/ep592 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  These three behaviors constantly derail us from doing the things that we want to do or the things that we say are so important for us. And he said, all three of them share the same root. Okay, what is the root of perfectionism, procrastination and overthinking? Lesley Logan 0:15  Drum roll please. Brad Crowell 0:18  Fear.Lesley Logan 0:21  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:03  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the encouraging convo I have with John Mollura in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now. Go back and listen to that one, and then listen to this one, or listen to this one and then listen to that one. They're fun, back-to-back, to be completely honest, in whatever order you want to do. And John Mollura, he said this is his second time on the pod. Brad Crowell 1:28  Yeah, the first one he was in the hundos. Lesley Logan 1:27  Yeah. I know. Is that crazy? It's insane. Brad Crowell 1:28  Yeah, yeah. Like this probably puts him almost 500 episodes ago. Lesley Logan 1:34  I know. Who else should we bring back? Send it in, guys. Brad Crowell 1:38  Let us know. Lesley Logan 1:38  Today is Thursday, November 27th 2025 and for Americans, it is Turkey Day. Brad Crowell 1:46  It's Thanksgiving Day. Lesley Logan 1:47  Yes, but it's also for Americans and anyone else wants to celebrate, Un-Thanksgiving Day. Brad Crowell 1:54  That's right. Lesley Logan 1:54  Let's, before people get upset, this is what Un-Thanksgiving Day is. It's also known as National Day of Mourning, or Indigenous People's Sunrise Ceremony, is commemorated on the fourth Thursday in November. That is on purpose, because, well, I'll tell you more in a second, this place, it takes a place on November 27th but it just happens on to be on the same Thursday as Thanksgiving, because it's always the fourth Thursday. And it actually there's a big thing over on Alcatraz Island in San Francisco Bay to honor the indigenous peoples of America and promote their rights. And the reason why we do this is because, well, there's also, naturally a mourning is what they do in Boston, but what they do in happened in at Alcatraz is when it was no longer being used as a prison, the indigenous people went and took over the island, and they lived in it and inhabited and controlled it for 19 months. And it's kind of amazing. It's basically them taking their land back, which is very beautiful on we didn't do this because we'll have episodes come on Monday, but I really love that on Columbus Day, the day formerly known as Columbus Day in this household, but known as Indigenous People's Day, somebody, somebody posted a meme that said a reminder that on this day in 1492 indigenous people discovered Columbus lost at sea, or whatever day it was. I don't know if I heard the year correctly, but I love it. It's like, yeah, you fucking discovered this place. You so. So anyways, if you're like me and Brad, sometimes these holidays are kind of hard to celebrate, because, like, of course, I want to spend time with family. Of course I'll spend time with friends. Of course, we need days off, and we do need some joy, but I think finding new ways to educate ourselves and then celebrate those people is wise. Brad Crowell 3:48  Yeah, or just to have some clarity around the history of a holiday, you know, like, like, like, historically, the Romans would take the conquered people's holidays, and, you know, morph them so that the people could still celebrate, and then over time, things would change, you know. And now, all of a sudden, we have, you know, things like Christmas or Halloween or whatever, you know. And they've been, they've been basically taken over, and Thanksgiving is, is, I don't think Thanksgiving was taken over, but Thanksgiving has a different premise.Lesley Logan 4:22  There's a folkloric story about, like, what happened I'm like this, but (inaudible).Brad Crowell 4:25  But it's, well, it's, yeah, it's well, it's, it's that, you know, we came, we saw, we conquered, kind of thing and we did that. But it's a day of thanks, right? Thanks for this new land that we took from people. So, you know, thank you for that.Lesley Logan 4:41  It's like a bully kicking a kid taking a lunch, going, thanks, man.Brad Crowell 4:43  You know, so so I still think that we can have a day where we we are thankful for the things that we have and family and those things. But I think it's also fair to to to recognize that, you know, like that, like for the native people of this continent. They they want to remember their history too, and the genocide of indigenous people that happened when we came over here, so.Lesley Logan 5:12  Yeah, and I just think, like, Hallmark washing, and no offense to that company, but like, just making everything, like this beautiful day to like, you know, go out and buy decorations and all this different stuff. It's like, I think you can have a day of thanks, I think. But I also think, like, it is, it is important that we're educating ourselves about the people that have been hurt by this kind of stuff, and also, like, have a day of thanks and be thankful for them and what they did on, you know, for this land before we got here. Brad Crowell 5:39  Yeah, Thanks for Thanks for going down that journey with us. Lesley Logan 5:42  Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving Day. Brad Crowell 5:44  Yeah, it's intentionally on Thanksgiving every year. It's the fourth, same as the fourth, fourth Thursday of November. Lesley Logan 5:50  So and you know what? Here's the deal, if you're like guys, thanks, totally understand. You know, honor them every day. And I love Thanksgiving. That is very, very cool. But for some people who are having a hard time right now with this holiday, we just gave you one. You're welcome.Brad Crowell 6:04  Yeah, all right. Coming up it is. We are in the middle of our Black Friday Cyber Monday sale right now for OPC, onlinepilatesclasses.com. Just go to, actually check your emails. But I want to say it's opc.me/bfcm, Black Friday Cyber Monday, for the short link for that. In December, in literally a week, we leave and we hit the road. We are driving to Colorado. We're gonna be in Colorado Springs. We're not gonna review all the days and the locations and all the things.Lesley Logan 6:32  There's 23 of them. Brad Crowell 6:33  There are 23 cities, public stops there. And we have, you know, definitely more than 50% sold out. We are more than that already as we're recording this, and you know. Lesley Logan 6:44  Powered by Balanced Body, so we're gonna be bringing our Controlology line with us. We'll have some prizes from them. You don't have to be a Pilates instructor to come. You don't even have to have done Pilates for you to come. (inaudible) my fucking friends have come, and they don't, have never done it before. So you are welcome to bring a family member or ditch them and say that you have something to do for work. It's important. Everyone understands. So go to opc.me/tour for tickets in the remaining stops. And then what's also happening later in December, because we're not doing a Black Friday, Cyber Monday sale for Profitable Pilates this year, we are doing something special December 26th through the 31st so, but you'll need to have the be on the email list for Profitable Pilates. So if you're not on that list, you need to get on that list, yeah, and go do that. And then after our tour is over, we come home. I fix my roots, I change my nails, I launch a mentorship program, and then we drive out to Huntington Beach. Brad Crowell 7:40  I think I'll shave while you're doing all those things. Lesley Logan 7:40  I mean, you'll have your shave going on, but you'll probably need a trim. So we're gonna go, we'll be at the Pilates Journal Expo in Huntington Beach. It's the first time the Pilates Journal is doing an event in the States. It's a humongous lineup of teachers, some that I, who I used to take from when I was a baby Pilates person, and some that I've taught how to teach. So it's kind of crazy. So you'll want to go to the Pilates Journal Expo to join us on that party, xxll.co/pilatesjournal. Then we're home for a little bit, thank goodness, because, like everybody and their mom is wanting to visit in February, and, oh, there's more in January. Brad Crowell 8:05  Yeah, there's more in Jan. So we're gonna be.Lesley Logan 8:12  It's also my birthday. I don't see that on the events list.Brad Crowell 8:17  For those of you who've been interested in joining us on a Pilates retreat where we hang out, we decompress from all the insanity that this life has for us. Each and every one of us is different. Go to crowsnestretreats.com. Get yourself on the waitlist. In January, we're going to be doing our pre sale, our early bird for our retreat for next year, which will be in October at our home in Cambodia. We're actually going to be doing a call at the middle end of January. It's not yet on the calendar exactly, but we're going to have a call, and we're going to interview a couple of our past attendees. We're going to hang out, we're going to talk about the trip and all the things that everybody's ever wanted to know. It's going to be great. So come join us for that, but you got to be on the waitlist for that. Go to crowsnestretreats.com to get on the waitlist. And then in February, something that is really I'm passionate about as well, is Agency Mini. Okay, so as you know, we coach Pilates business owners, and we have a coaching program and all those fun things. But people ask, you know, often look at it and go, I don't know if I'm ready for a six month commitment. No problem. That's why we created Agency Mini, and it's a three-day program. Okay? Used to be seven. We've shrunk it down to three, because we all know how crazy life actually is. It is a really powerful three days, and you should join us for that. Go to prfit.biz/mini prfit.biz/mini. That's profit without the O.Lesley Logan 9:35  And then we get on our plane for the first time in almost six months. Brad Crowell 9:39  Which is insane. Lesley Logan 9:40  Insane but so delicious. I'm sitting here knowing we have six months not. Brad Crowell 9:45  Of no flying. Lesley Logan 9:46  So it's the really ridiculous thing. But I saw it on the day we were at the airport some reel which is like, Have you ever been to the airport and you realize, like, every time I go to the airport, it is everybody's first time on this earth. And so I was just like looking at people, and honestly, I had more empathy for them. I'm like, well, it's their first time here. And then we pull a move where we like, just stop in the middle of the airport, like you did, like, like people do, and then we're just like, turn and like, I'm like, so sorry. Brad Crowell 10:11  Cutting people off. Oops.Lesley Logan 10:11  Like, I was like, oops, I'm so sorry. It's our first time on this planet. They didn't understand what I was saying. But I laugh my heart out. But anyways, we're home for six months, and then when we get on a plane, it's a big deal because we are going to be in three different countries, teaching in the content, continent of Europe, because I can't say the EU anymore, since the Brexit. So school year, we're starting to right, I have to like London and England is its own thing. Brad Crowell 10:37  Almost positive. Lesley Logan 10:38  I have to say, like the European continent, so annoying, but we'll just say,Brad Crowell 10:44  Yeah, it's considered part of Europe geographically. Lesley Logan 10:46  But not the EU. Brad Crowell 10:47  Although technically it's the European continental shelf. Anyway, no, it's not the EU but it is part of Europe.Lesley Logan 10:54  It's like when we were in John o'Groats, and we had to be so specific, we couldn't say we were at the top of the UK. We had to say we're at the top of the mainland UK.Brad Crowell 10:58  Right. Because there are islands north of the mainland.Lesley Logan 11:01  Or top of mainland Scotland. So okay, so in March, we're going to be in Poland at the Controlology Pilates Conference, xxll.co/poland Karen Frischmann is doing that with me, and it's really fun. We haven't been back there in a couple of years. Really, really great time. Really cool people there. So I can't wait to see you guys. And then the next weekend we'll be in Brussels. Els Studio tells and you want to go to xxll.co/brussels same, two teachers, very different workshops, also private sessions. So choose the adventure you want to go on, check out both lineups, and pick the one you want to go to or come to both and hang out with us in two different countries, why not? And then in April, Brad and I will be at the POT in London. We're very excited about it, it's my first POT in London, (inaudible) I know it's, it's gonna be a great time. It's gonna be a really fun to see all those people. So pick the one you want, my European fabulous people, because that's it for 2026. That's all there is. Brad Crowell 11:59  So xxll.co/poland or slash Brussels. Eventually we might have slash London, but they're not. They don't even have a landing page up yet to buy tickets for that. Lesley Logan 12:08  From the time that we're recording this. Brad Crowell 12:08  Yeah, we're just, we're putting it on your radar. So go to pilates.com and go see their continuing education. That's where they have all that information about future POTs Pilates On Tour. Brad Crowell 12:19  All right, so this week, we had a question for you from Natalie. Lesley Logan 12:25  Hit me with it. Brad Crowell 12:27  @nathalieds9011 asks on YouTube about the video, How to Take Your Pilates Practice Outdoors. She said, hey, how about doing Pilates outdoors during winter in Madrid, which is where I am, winter is not extreme. I have a big terrace, which is where I do Pilates. Since inside my apartment, there's just not that much space for me to move.Lesley Logan 12:43  I mean, if you live somewhere where it's beautiful in the winter, fuck yeah. Do it outside. Tag me in a video. Take one of my classes on OPC, or Pilates Anytime or on YouTube. And I want to see your, I want to live vicariously through you, because, let me tell you, I would love being in Madrid in the winter. Instead, I am in the winter places. Brad Crowell 13:04  I'm in the winter places.Lesley Logan 13:04  I'm in the places where winter happens. But I would, love that's great. I mean, like, when I did that video, I was being conscious of, like, if I say, you do it outdoors, I'm gonna get someone say I can't. It's negative 21 degrees here, and it's gonna be 115 here. So I have to, like, you know, be considerate, because some people just don't feel seen. So you, my dear, are in the blessed space. We actually have a couple OPC members who also live in Spain, and they do their Pilates outside all year long. So please, rock on. Do it, but, but basically, when you're doing Pilates outside, there's just things to consider. You can check out that video we did on YouTube, because I'm not gonna list the exhaust, exhaustive list that I gave on there, but we just did Pilates in Cambodia, and something we have to consider is, like bugs, you know, rain. We can do it in the rain there, because we have a covered patio, but as long as the rain isn't going sideways, which can happen, then we have these things that we bring down to make the walls. So it's not so much water on the patio, but the mosquitoes don't care, so we have to we have extra fans that like make it harder for them to land, you know. So there's just things you want to think about when you're doing Pilates outside, and I have blue eyes, it is really difficult for me to do outside Pilates when there's no cover. I was doing, early in the spring, I was doing yoga outside in the morning, and it was fine, as long as I was in down dog, but the moment I came up, the sun was in my face, and I was like, well, this isn't this is terrible. I need sunglasses, but you can't do sunglasses. You can't work out with sunglasses. So like you just it looks stunning. Just make sure you have things set up so that you're not constantly distracted from your workout, about being outside. You know that's all. Brad Crowell 13:06  Love it. Lesley Logan 13:06  If you have a question, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534, or submit them at beitpod.com/questions, where I would like you to send a win as well. I'm being demanding here. Come on. You have a win in your life. You do. You wanna know something, one of our retreaters would. Brad Crowell 13:06  You wanna know something. Lesley Logan 13:06  You wanna know something. One of our, one of our retreaters shared a win one day after our retreat. She said, I only said, I'm sorry two times. It was amazing. Like, if you walk around like, that's a fucking win. Huge win. Instead of walking around, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Like, she just said, excuse me, and then when she needed to, she said, I'm sorry, and she's like, oh, two times it was such a win. So those are the wins I want to hear. I don't need to hear, like, I have my biggest launch ever. Okay, great. That's wonderful. I'm super excited for you, and you can send that in, but like, there were little wins along the way. And if you don't celebrate those you are, you're unlikely to feel fulfilled for a long period of time. So send them in. Brad Crowell 13:37  Yeah, I just looked up on our board we have a win. Lesley Logan 13:37  Great. Brad Crowell 13:37  I'm gonna read it. Lesley Logan 13:37  Oh, okay, okay great. Brad Crowell 13:37  Big win this week. This is from Jordan BB, I've neglected using my Wunda Chair for quite a while now. So I decided it was time to break out my Chair Flashcards. I started working through the order and whatever bits of time I had available each day, starting from the top of the deck each day to get to the to get the repetition. By the time I got to my second week, I started feeling connections in my body that the week previous, I couldn't have even dreamed of. Exercises that felt impossible to move were actually moving. But even better, I felt more connected to myself. Super excited to add my Chair back into my regular rotation. Thank you, Lesley for the amazing flashcards. Lesley Logan 16:32  I mean, I'm so grateful for you. And don't click that off, Brad, because I'm going to say it on FYF so she can hear it on one of those episodes. But thank you like that is so freaking cool. Brad Crowell 16:42  Great job, Jordan. Lesley Logan 16:43  I just want another shout out to Jordan. She is also a listener who, when she discovered this podcast, went back to the beginning and listened to every single one. Brad Crowell 16:51  Wow. Lesley Logan 16:51  I know. So pretty big deal. Pretty amazing win. All right, Jordan, you're amazing. I'll put that in FYF so you're gonna hear it twice, because what if she misses this episode? All right, let's talk about John Mollura.Brad Crowell 17:05  John Mollura. Okay, so stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about John. Brad Crowell 17:11  Welcome back. All right, let's dig into this convo you have with John Mollura. John is a personal coach and keynote speaker who helps people move from fear and hesitation into confidence and action, which I love that. For 15 years he had he led test operations on NASA missions before stepping into a new chapter as an award winning photographer, with work featured in National Geographic. Today, he shares those experiences through coaching and his signature talk, Elite Level Confidence, giving people simple tools to build trust in themselves and take consistent action in their lives. Look, we, Lesley and I have, man, we connected with John three or four years ago now, and. Lesley Logan 17:52  At least, he was in the hundreds. So.Brad Crowell 17:54  Yeah, look, if you like to read newsletters, John's newsletters are great. He really takes time to write enjoyable newsletters, and I read them. Lesley Logan 18:05  You don't read anything. Brad Crowell 18:07  I don't really read anything. So John's newsletters are really fun. So I really like that. I feel like I've been along his journey with him, as he's shifted from engineer to photographer to now being a speaker and a coach, so we're really fired up for him. It's been awesome to have him. He's coming to speak to Agency, our coaching group multiple times, and his content is available for those who are members of Agency. And then we were like, hey, man, would you like to be back on the pod? And we got this epic episode. It's like this episode felt like a mic drop moment on every chapter of the conversation that y'all, y'all were having, you know, talking about confidence, talking about perfectionism, talking about all these great things that, I, I literally listened to it twice. So. Lesley Logan 18:58  I love that, that's so good. Well, thanks for doing that. I mean, it's so fun to have guests back and see where they've gone. Some people have gone further in the same lane. Some people have switched lanes. Some people have reversed and then rewound and, you know, like it's and so he has switched lanes. But really it seems like it all aligns, because he, basically what I like that he said, which goes with what I'm just saying, is that he talked about, it's being really important to be aware. Like, the more aware you are, it's actually a really powerful thing and and it's because when you have a seeker mindset, right? Like, that's going to help you, when you have that curiosity, it's going to help you in what you want to be and what you want to do. So clearly, he was in that seeking mode, that being aware mode, and that's where he's like, Oh, I'm a, I'm an award winning photographer, I'm a NASA engineer, but I actually really want, I'm feeling called, to do this thing over here and it lights me up, and that, you, just going to Gay Hendricks like, that's his genius zone. Like, it would be so easy for him to it's, it's a what does Gay call it, like, your whatever. Like, there's a zone of excellence, which is his photography, but his own genius is this. And I just really loved it. He also said, like, when you are being aware, it's important that you don't judge yourself with your awareness. Like, that's where the critic lives. You like things you'll say is like, well, that's not gonna happen. Or, like, this is never gonna work. But instead, shifting into that seeker mindset and having awareness and curiosity.Brad Crowell 20:23  Yeah, that, so, okay, this part, I thought, was really heartfelt, because he already in his adult life with kids and a wife changed from being a, I'm guessing, stable, high paying government job, where he's an engineer for NASA, to an unstable, potentially high paying, but who knows, job of being a photographer. Now he happens to kick ass at being a photographer, you know, but he said, the engineering job, he quit. He started something else. He got another engineering job, then realized that still wasn't the right answer. Then he started doing something that he found fulfilling. And then after a while, was like, this isn't doing it either. And then decided to make us another change in his adult life. And he's like, I honestly didn't even want to tell my wife, because she'd already been on the journey with me getting out of being an engineer. And now I'm like, thought I was doing the thing I wanted to do, but I'm not feeling it, you know, it's not actually the right thing for me. And and then, you know, and so he has, what I thought was really great, is you threw in there. Well, look, it was maybe we end up thinking that we need to do this thing for because we made the decision, right? For me, this really resonated with my decision to go to college for music, right? And I left. And then my whole time in Los Angeles, for the for the first decade I was there, I was like, I am a musician. That's how I defined myself. It's how I saw myself. I am in a band. I do perform. This is what I do. This is who I am. And when you started, when that started to shift and change and not be that anymore. I was like, well, what do I do now? You know, that I'm not, you know, can I do something else? Like, am I allowed? Because I felt (inaudible), I had literally spent $80,000 or whatever was going to college. I don't even know. A lot of money, you know, going to college to be a musician, you know, am I, am I like, is it okay to not be a musician anymore? You know, while I still can think of myself as a musician today, that's not my primary thing that I'm doing, but it was just one step along the way and and I think it's okay for us to be making these changes in our lives. You know, my I never talked with my friend about this, but my high school buddy went to school to be an engineer, right? He went to Germany, he came back, he was doing all this really fancy engineering stuff, and then somewhere along the way, was like, I this isn't it. And then he went back to school to be a doctor. Like, I was like, wait, you signed up for like, four more years of school after already going to, like four or five years of school. And, you know, now he's a doctor, and I have to imagine he really likes it, or he wouldn't keep doing it. But that is quite a path to jump from one to another, especially when the foundation to become a doctor again, you're, you're starting over, in a way, you know, so.Lesley Logan 20:25  Yeah, I think that's and I think that clearly in that instance, like, he must have had to be a seeker and not a judger in his like, well, this is gonna work. Oh my God, it's four more years of school. Brad Crowell 23:33  Judging himself. Lesley Logan 23:39  Like, using himself, you know, or what like, and this is like, this is the hard part, right? Because when you share some things, it's really, really important who you share stuff with. Like, I think sometimes some of you who are listening, you so badly want someone in your life's love that you're telling them the thing that you're wanting to do, and they are not your cheerleader. It's not because they are an asshole or trying to be an asshole, it's that they are in the critic zone. And so you have to be mindful, like, who you're sharing your dreams with, until you feel the muscle is very strong. And I don't think that that was, like, why he didn't want to share it with his wife, but we were very clear, like he was just was just like, now we're starting all over again. But like, I do think that, like, there are, like, when we told my grandfather we're in Cambodia, he's like, it's not safe there, right? And we're like. Brad Crowell 24:32  What's he, like, all he's doing is projecting his own fear. Lesley Logan 24:34  His own fear, you know, and so, so just be mindful those of you who are listening, who are like, in the curious space, in the awareness space, and you're feeling called, yes, you have excellent investments and other things you've done in your life, but you're being called to do something else. Be mindful that you tell the friends who are like, fuck yeah, you should do that. The other people in your life, you'll tell them when the muscle is a bit stronger, because I would just be afraid that their critic will come out and bring your critic to the party, and we don't need that.Brad Crowell 25:05  Well, I think, I think the high level here, you know, the conclusion of this thought is awareness plus curiosity is a win, right? Awareness plus curiosity, it enables progress, right? So no matter where you are in your life, no matter what projects you're working on, if you have both awareness and curiosity, you will be able to move that ball forward. So love that. And speaking of your grandfather, that leads into what I really loved in a roundabout way, you'll get, we'll get there. Lesley Logan 25:36  I can't wait. I'm excited. I'm looking at these notes. Did you know, my grandfather?Brad Crowell 25:41  I did. So the big three that John talked about, this was a whole nother chapter of the conversation, and this is where I kept saying, these are mic drop moments, you know? He said, hey, look, you know, it's not even about perfection. It's not even about procrastination. He said, in fact, there are the, these are the big three things that I talk about all the time, perfectionism, procrastination and overthinking. He said these three behaviors constantly derail us from doing the things that we want to do, or the things that we say are so important for us. And he said the thing that they're like they don't, all three of them share the same root. Okay, what are, what is the root of perfectionism, procrastination and overthinking? Lesley Logan 26:22  Drum roll, please. Brad Crowell 26:26  Fear. Right? And this is what your grandfather was, was applying. He was, he was projecting his fear on us. And that's when, when you share something with someone, be cautious of that in the sense that they are, they know you really well. They love you. They want the best for you. And they are going to immediately, like, look at it and see what is the problem that that could happen here. And they're going to push that out there and right? And that could be really deflating for you, especially if you aren't yet, like you don't yet have surety in the place you're going, you're feeling it out right, because that, like they don't want you to be hurt or fail, or any of those things and fear is that that root, and it's easy for that to blossom into these things, perfectionism, procrastination and overthinking. And he said, by understanding that fear is the root of these three people, can now get honest with ourselves and begin asking, what is it actually that I'm so scared of? What is it actually? I can't remember who it was, but a couple weeks ago, we had another episode. She was a business coach. Lesley Logan 27:37  Oh, Jill. Brad Crowell 27:39  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it was, I think it was her. She said, what am I afraid of? What's the worst could happen. I could go bankrupt, right? And I was like, well, that's a pretty big deal, you know? But for her, she was like, okay. Lesley Logan 27:52  Jill Allen. Dr. Jill Allen.Brad Crowell 27:52  Dr. Jill Allen, yeah she said, okay, I could go bankrupt. And it's like, well, okay, but she acknowledged that, like, what am I so afraid of, if that's the worst that could happen can that be overcome? Like, is that like, it doesn't it's not something to laugh at. But what if it do? What if it does happen? Lesley Logan 28:10  I don't know. Do I share this, like, my, I remember my trainer when I was, like, thinking of breaking up with my ex, and I was like, just like, not. He's like, what are you afraid of? Like, I don't. He's like, you're not gonna die. Like, he's like, to me, the scariest thing, the thing that, like, the ultimate fear, is death. And you breaking up with him, you're not gonna die. Like, in my situation, I'm sure that that's not the same for other people, but in my I could, he would just let me walk away. And I was like, oh, I'm not gonna die. That is, that is I can do like, I love this question. I think it's really important to reflect on and journal about Brad Crowell 28:40  What am I so scared of? I remember being my first I just moved to L.A. and I had no money, and I got a job at this restaurant. It took me a week to get a job at a restaurant of where I walked around to, I don't know, a dozen more, I don't even know. I would evaluate the restaurant, see how busy they were at dinner, decide, could I make enough money here, and then, do I want to work here? Does this seem cool? And I would put in an application, and I went to all these different places, and I finally got this job, because I went back a second a third time, I really wanted to work at this restaurant. And I then I met these guys, and they offered me a job. And I called my best friend at the time and I said, hey, man, I'm thinking of doing this. And he I said, but I'm worried. I'm worried about, you know, like, they're gonna pay me a salary, but I've, I've, I would be, I would have to give up my restaurant job. And he's like, you can get another restaurant job. And I was like, oh, you're right. Like, that's so true. Lesley Logan 29:37  Yes, yes, even in a shitty economy, there's always an opportunity for something. It might not be, you know, it might not be the the restaurant job, but it would be a restaurant job like, you know, like, there's just, there's, there's options.Brad Crowell 29:52  Yeah, so I just thought that was really astute of John to take these three things, which we all have dealt with, struggled with in our lives, perfectionism, procrastination, overthinking, connect the dots that there's fear is the root of these three things, and then how do we how do we lean into that? What are we so afraid of? What are we so afraid of? Lesley Logan 30:18  Yeah, and your fears are allowed to be like, they could be legitimate fears. And then at least the power is removed when it has air, you know, like the power of fear is really removed when you just, like, put it out on the table. And at least then you can figure out, like, well, what would I do if that happened? You know, so I loved it. I loved, you know, John's, we posted the tour, and we'll be at Rehoboth Beach Delaware. Brad Crowell 30:42  Yeah, it's, it's really close to where he lives.Lesley Logan 30:45  I think it's really close. I think we should finally fucking see him. Brad Crowell 30:53  Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be good. Lesley Logan 30:57  John. Brad Crowell 30:57  We're calling you out, John, we're calling you. Lesley Logan 30:57  We're gonna, we gotta talk. Brad Crowell 30:57  We're gonna call you. Lesley Logan 30:53  We gotta talk about food. How about coffee. How about a happy hour?Brad Crowell 30:57  Love it. All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we've got some great Be It Action Items from John as well. Lesley Logan 31:04  John, you can also text us. That's fine too. Brad Crowell 31:06  Yeah. All right, we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 31:10  Finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What are the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items that we could take away from your convo with John Mollura. He said, confidence is the ability to trust yourself. Confidence is the ability to trust yourself. Most of us are showing up for the person we've made a commitment to. Okay, I'll pick you up at six. Okay, I'll do the dishes. Okay, I'll take the trash out, right? You're committing to someone else. I'll do my homework. I'll do this thing, whatever. But we constantly let our own selves down. And it doesn't seem like a big deal. Lesley Logan 31:48  It is a humongous deal. You say you're gonna go to bed at 9 pm and you don't go to bed till 10, you are literally taking a drop out of the confidence bucket.Brad Crowell 31:57  Yeah, and it's subconscious. You might not be like, oh, can't believe it. Oh, I didn't go to bed at nine o'clock.Lesley Logan 32:03  Please, please listen to the habits podcast, and don't do that.Brad Crowell 32:05  In your in in your belief you're chipping away at the foundation of confidence that you have in yourself when you don't uphold your own decisions to yourself, right? And you might not realize that that's happening. But he explained the actual root cause of people's lack of confidence is that they're not showing up for themselves, and meaning that loss of self-trust because we consistently and continually break commitments we made to ourselves time and time again, that will it's it's fascinating, because John is an engineer first, so he still thinks and talks like an engineer, even though he's very creative with photography and now working with his clients and coaching. But he started talking about data, you know, or the data, sorry, and so he said, he said, you why, why don't we uphold these things to ourselves? Because we never have upheld these things to ourselves. But we can change that. We can rectify that by starting to keep these promises to ourselves. When you start to give your brain a new set of data to work with, instead of the old data of broken self-promises, right? So how do we do that? Small, consistent actions that aren't a big thing, but over time, they add up to I am consistent. I do this thing. I do wake up, you know, earlier. I do go all the things that we say we want to go do, but we don't uphold we don't do them. Why don't we follow through? It's because we never have. Well, we can change that by making these small decisions, day by day.Lesley Logan 33:38  Agreed. I loved these, he gave us some questions, and this is really fun thing for you to journal upon. It said, when making conscious decisions on honor one's future self, one must ask, is what I'm going to do or not do going to cause me to be a hero to the future me? I love this like I love this. I look back at the the me in 2013 who made that big decision, go, I'm a fucking hero to myself, like, I thank God I fucking did that when I did it, because my whole life was like the domino effect of like, everything that I wanted. So yes, right? The goal is to ensure that when you meet your future self, you are not staying there tired and disappointed because you failed to go after it. Like if you ever said, oh, by this date, I want to have X thing. And then you didn't do anything, and then you got to that day like, I wanted to be over here by now. Well, the effort thing, it's not like I have missed dates on goals that I was working towards. And there's a difference between actually working towards something and the deadline is further than you thought, than not doing anything at all, and getting to the deadline,Brad Crowell 34:47  I think, I mean, I was thinking about goal setting and all that kind of stuff. Like, okay, this, this quarter in business, we're gonna do $100,000 and you, you know, work, work, work, and you make only $60,000 but it was more than you've ever made before. It doesn't mean that you like didn't make that you didn't keep a promise to yourself.Lesley Logan 35:09  Right. Well, were you, were you the person who could like, did the effort you put towards it, could it have been $100,000 if the stars had aligned? Then, then you should, whatever you land with you should celebrate, because the person that you made yourself be to do those things is the goal, is the journey, right? Is the hero. So the action should result in you high fiving yourself and saying, thank you for honoring me. Thank you for doing that, that the thing in that moment. He also said, you can call him. You guys, I have not like, that's insane, free calls. And he also gave some free resources over on his site, on johnnmollura.com, that's John with an H-N-N.Brad Crowell 35:10  Yeah, J-O-H-N-M-O-L-L-U-R-A dot com, johnmollura.com. Lesley Logan 35:49  Yeah. So check those out. I love it. John, you're such an inspiration. Thank you for sharing your journey with us and the Be It Till You See It babes. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 36:06  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 36:07  Thanks for joining us. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Tag John. Tell us. Send this to a friend who needs to hear who needs to be a hero in their life, and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 36:17  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 36:19  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. 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Lesley Logan welcomes back personal coach and former NASA engineer John Mollura for a powerful conversation on confidence, fear, and self-trust. Together they break down why so many high achievers feel stuck—and how it's not about time management but the fear hiding underneath. John shares how to quiet your inner critic, lean into a curious 'seeker mindset,' and rebuild trust in yourself one small promise at a time.  If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How fear of failure kept John from setting goals or making plans.The “two-by-four” life moments that forced him to realign his purpose.Why photography revealed a deeper coaching calling after years in corporate life.Why true confidence begins with keeping the promises you make to yourself.Why fear drives the “big three” — perfectionism, procrastination, and overthinking.Episode References/Links:John Mollura's Website - https://www.johnmollura.comJohn Mollura's Free Resources - https://www.johnmollura.com/freestuffEpisode 119: John Mollura - https://beitpod.com/ep119The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks - https://a.co/d/0DUsv01AmeriCorps – https://americorps.govBrand Builders Group – https://brandbuildersgroup.comGuest Bio:John Mollura (pronounced muh-LAURA) is a personal coach and speaker who knows what it's like to feel stuck—despite a resume that says otherwise. For fifteen years he led test operations for NASA missions as a literal rocket scientist before becoming a multi-award-winning photographer, with work featured by National Geographic. But behind the achievements and titles, he battled self-doubt, perfectionism, and the fear of taking the next step. John didn't just break free—he built a framework for lasting change. Through a powerful blend of science, storytelling, and strategy, he doesn't just inspire—he equips people with the tools to take action, build confidence, and create real momentum. Get ready to move from hesitation to action, from fear to confidence, and from stuck to unstoppable. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Because here's what happens, is we're lying to ourselves. We say I'm going to wake up and go to the gym, or this is the year I'm going to start eating healthier, or I'm going to floss my teeth every night. Like, pick a commitment you've made to yourself. If we continually break these commitments time and time again, well, guess what? Our brain recognizes I can't trust me.Lesley Logan 0:28  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:10  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? Oh my gosh. Okay. We have a blast from the past, an amazing person, that every time I hear him speak, I'm just like, yes, yes that, yes this, yes, that, oh, say that one more time. So you guys are gonna want to repeat this. This is an episode on perfectionism, procrastination, overthinking, confidence, fear. It's really good stuff. And our guest is John Mollura, and I'm really, really excited. And if you haven't heard from him on episode 120 I highly recommend, after you listen to this one, go listen to that one, and just see how far people come in such a short period of time, we think three years is a long time, and it's like, you know, like, it isn't, it happens quite quickly. So anyways, you're amazing. John's amazing. This episode is for you. Here you go. Lesley Logan 1:57  Be It, babe. We have a blast from the past, and like the past, I cannot believe that it's I can't believe how long this podcast has been on, because it feels like I just got started, and I'm like, still getting my groove, but John Mollura is our guest today. He was from Episode 120, oh my God, okay. John Mollura, in case people haven't been with us since Episode 120, can you remind them? John Mollura 2:16  And you should go back and listen to all those if you have not.Lesley Logan 2:21  Well, they're gonna have to. Because I think we're gonna share, what I'm excited about is to share a journey. Like, whenever I have a guest back on, it's like, we get to, like, see where you are, and people get to go, oh, wow, behind like, you don't see behind the scenes very much, and you don't like, we just think, like, things just happen, and the light switch just turns on, and everything works out. So tell everyone who you are and what you're rocking at now.John Mollura 2:45  Hey, everybody. So second time guest here on the Be It Pod with my good friend, Lesley. And fun fact is I actually live right up the road from her hubby's parents in the first State of Delaware. Lesley Logan 2:58  It's really hilarious. John Mollura 2:59  Right? Small world, small world. So what I am up to? I am a personal coach, and no one is more surprised to see me in that position than me. Lesley Logan 3:08  I don't know. I had to be really honest. We'll go on with your because, but I just want to say, like, your talk, (inaudible) like, three years ago, about imperfection was so good, like, to me, you were like a coach over a photographer. But anyways, tell everyone why you're more surprised.John Mollura 3:28  Yeah, and I'm talking like, longer than, like, the time you and I have been buddies, but like, just throughout my entire life, dude, I, like Forrest Gump-ed my way through, like, never really had a plan, and I came to realize the reason why I never had a plan is because if you didn't have, like, a plan and a target and goals, guess what, you could never fail. And I was so afraid of failure, like I never wanted to, you know, put my name on something, be like, this is what I want to do. So that is why I say I've, -like, Forrest Gump-ed my way through. And I I'm surprised I'm here, because it was never the plan, because I never had a plan. Lesley Logan 4:05  This is so fascinating. I think people just freaking like, were like, caught, like that, like, caught, you know, because you just said, If you don't have a plan, you can't fail. And I'm afraid of failure. And I think there's a lot of people who have been just like, it's a lot going on, it's really hard to make decisions in this time, like, you know, and it's like you can do that for so long, and at some point, like, there's a calling that you have, the universe is going to force you to do it. Do you feel forced?John Mollura 4:38  So I like to call them two by four moments, Lesley, and these are those moments in life where the universe, or God or who, whomever you believe, is kind of orchestrating all this. If you're not paying attention enough, they whack you upside the head with a two by four. And you find yourself in these situations where it's like you're just forced into these changes, and you know you don't have to answer the call, but the price you pay is that you just have this just spiritual discontent with inside of you, and that is such a yucky and exhausting feeling.Lesley Logan 5:13  Yeah, it really is like, and I think anyone listening like, I can think of times when, like, I feel like I got hit by a back truck, and then you're like, why didn't you tell me before the Mack truck came? And then you look back and you're like, there was a little flashlight right there, and then there was this like thing over here. You ignored those so I had to hit you with a Mack truck to get your attention.John Mollura 5:37  Yeah, yeah. There is a story that I like to tell when I'm doing like a small group, and it's like people are like, you know, they they end up at the pearly gates, and they're like, God, why didn't you save me? And that is like, what are you talking about? It's like, I sent, I told you to leave the house before it flooded. I sent you the news report, and you didn't listen. And then when you climbed on your roof. I sent you a boat, saying, hey, get in the boat. And you said no, and then I sent a helicopter, like, what else do you want? So we don't, we don't pay attention to these signs all along the way.Lesley Logan 6:10  We're expecting it to say, John, this is for you. Like, Lesley, this is yours. And the truth is, is that, like, you know, we all get choice. That's what we were given. We were given this choice to listen or to not to listen, and those choices have consequences. So if you choose not to listen, you get hit by a two by four, hopefully before you drown. Hopefully, hopefully you pay attention before you drown. So, tell, can you take us back to some of the two by fours that kind of shoved you this way? John Mollura 6:40  Yeah. Yeah. So, so my my career again, like starting back with my career after I graduated engineering school from Penn State in like 2001 shout out, Nittany Lions, we are, is I ended up working in the space program. Right?Lesley Logan 6:58  Yeah, which is so badass. It's like the, I mean, it's what every kid grows up to wanting being an astronaut, you got to do that without going to space. But, like.John Mollura 7:06  Space Cadet, yes, astronaut, no, but I did get to work with them, and the reason why I literally fell into that job was because I lost out on an internship with Disney in college and taught rock climbing for the summer, and that actually was what bubbled me to the top of the guy who hired me, who was former Special Forces and he said, Hey, look, I'm like, why'd you pick me? Like, I had, like, a decent grade, other than my shining personality and, you know, rapier wit, why did you pick me, Skip? And he said, I don't need another, you know, gosh darn egg head on this team. I need someone I can send out into the field and not get me or themselves killed. He said, you're smart enough. So again, like, you know, I wasn't planning on ever being a rock climbing instructor, but I was offered the jobs I know other options. That's what bubbled me to the top, where I worked in the space and defense industry for 15 years, leading test operations for NASA and working with elite military units, and a big two by four moment came in 2009 right after our first child was born, where, like, I really felt like I wasn't going to be a good dad, just because, you know, my past trials and traumas. And then right after that, one of my best childhood friends intentionally overdosed and passed away, and I was I was a mess. I was an absolute wreck. And, you know, I can remember thinking, Well, maybe he got it right. Maybe I shouldn't be here. And for whatever reason, I said the Serenity Prayer like it popped in my head.Lesley Logan 8:41  Isn't it funny how we all know that prayer, we all know, like, if that prayer is like, right there, it's like, so like, like, we're, I feel like we're born with it, like it's so good.John Mollura 8:49  Yeah, yeah. And for those of you, you know, here's a variation I love is, you know, accept what is, let go of what was, and have faith in what will be, you know. And like, as soon as I finished it, I felt this warm sensation and like, you know that that's when I found, like, true religion and freedom. But it wasn't like all unicorns and rainbows and stuff like that. It was quite the opposite. It was where, like the proverbial scales fell from my eyes, and I realized what an a hole I was in life to protect myself. So that started me on this journey of faith and getting my, you know, just seeing how the world saw me, and I built up this like superhero exterior, but really just to protect the wounded person inside. And as I really came to terms with that and started healing, I started realizing that, wow, this job that I have, like you said, which is, like every kid's dream, like, you know, former 80s kid, like you we grew up watching Star Wars and, you know, all the things like that. I was like, this job isn't satisfying me. This isn't this isn't where I'm supposed to be. I'm good at it. I'm world class at it. But, man, I'm just not happy.Lesley Logan 9:58  Yeah, yeah, that's what Gay Hendricks would call from The Big Leap, he would call, like, your zone of excellence, but not your zone of genius. And, like, It's uncomfortable to be in the zone of excellence for a long time. People think you're weird, but like, you just don't like, you're like, I this, I can do this in my sleep, but it's not challenging me. It's not making me feel satisfied. John Mollura 10:19  Right? Yeah, that's not bringing life into me. So I went and, you know, did the responsible thing, and as a now father of three, and got another higher paying job in engineering, and was even more miserable and out of alignment. Lesley Logan 10:32  Just wanted to make sure. John Mollura 10:34  Yeah, just wanted to make sure this is definitely not for you. So almost, almost eight years ago to the day. We're recording this in early April, on April 7th of 2017 was when I walked away from corporate life and turned my side hustle photography in my full time gig. And it, you know, it was filled with a lot of ups and downs. You know, I had the opportunity, like National Geographics featured my stuff. I photograph my Grammy winners, like all the cool things, but it never really took off. Right? So here, you know, we're already up to two, two by four moments. There's, you know, the death of my friend and my spiritual awakening. You know, realizing this, like, dream career wasn't serving me. So if you're counting along, that's two, two by fours to the head, I don't catch on real quick. And then, actually, our initial conversation, and I looked it up, was in January of 2022, shout out, Brand Builders.Lesley Logan 11:34  I know, I know. Oh my God, that is, that is, I mean, we met, I guess, that is crazy. This podcast has been on for a long time.John Mollura 11:42  Yeah, and it wasn't even about the podcast that was about a webinar. You had this like, zany idea to be like, Hey, does anybody want to talk about imposter syndrome? I'm like, What's that? So I, like, Googled. I'm like, Oh my God, that's what I had even like as I was getting, like, letters of commendation from the military, like I felt like I didn't deserve it, and I was like, one screw up away from, like, failing and like everyone seeing I was faking it. So during this photography career, as the photography was starting to slow down, that came into my life, that came into my path, and then that turned into a keynote, and then the keynote turned, you know, into another keynote called elite level confidence. And that started getting traction. Meanwhile, my photography business is going down, right?Lesley Logan 12:30  Yeah, I'm going to challenge you on that second two by four. I think that the second two by four is a door, like a bridge or just like a guide, because I think, like, you would never have been in the room that you were in. So I feel like, maybe there's a second, two by four. And just like, hey, this photography thing is a beautiful hobby, and you're really good at it, and it's another zone of excellence. But like, they're, we're calling you over here. But I just think, like, I think, like, the everything happens for a reason, and you were in that room because of photography, you know, or maybe there was something inside you that was like, calling you to go for more, and maybe you knew about this coaching thing sooner. But I think, like, I wonder, like, would you have gone from engineering to elite level coaching? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I.John Mollura 13:14  Right, I mean, it all falls together. You know, when you're looking back at the path, it's like, oh, that makes sense. But yeah, in the moment you're like, what the heck it's going on here? Lesley Logan 13:23  Yeah, so okay, I remember, because I get your emails, I remember when you're like, oh, I'm not doing this for I'm closing my studio. And I was like, wow, I hope he's not going back to engineering. I'm so happy you're not. But you know, like, I was just like, oh, because I've been in this world long enough and like, it's really, it is really difficult to whatever your passion is, whether you're a photographer, listening or not, like one of my dear friends, like she makes her magic happen as a photographer, but it is you absolutely can get paid for your passion, but you also have to remember, it's still work, you know? And if it's not, if it doesn't serve you and your family, then it's not serving you, and you have to, like, change it. So, okay, how did you be it till you see it, from photographer to coach, because that I feel like, you know, like, how did you address that? How did you come to terms with your heart? How did you tell your family? How to tell people that I feel like people get stuck on like that, but what are people gonna say? What? How do I explain why I changed again?John Mollura 14:20  Yeah, and that was a lot of internal dialog when I was like, oh man, I'm starting to feel this, this just spiritual discontent again. And I'm like, I've wrestled with it. I'm like, are you kidding me, John, like, like you already had, like, a dream everybody wants. Like, you worked in the space program. You literally worked with astronauts and fighter pilots. Like, how cool is that? And then I did photography again. A lot of people like that. They're like, my dream is to be a photographer full time. And I'm like, oh, no, this isn't really filling me up anymore. So that was something I really wrestled with, Lesley, like, like, I didn't want to tell my wife, who's been on this, like, roller coaster with me, like, because I was embarrassed. I'm like, what is wrong with me? Why am I just such a like, you know, then all the negative voices start, right? It's like, you're a malcontent. You're never going to be happy, you know, all the things and but what I realized, what I really leaned into, was the truth of the matter, was, especially after Covid, because the photography I did, like headshots, portraits, things like that. So I was always working with people, and I saw such a change in people's demeanor. Like, I get it. Being photographed is not anyone's favorite pastime, really. But, like barely.Lesley Logan 15:31  I love it, but I'm weird. John Mollura 15:33  Right. Yeah, there's a very small percentage of people, but you know, every photo shoot would start the same. Good luck getting a good picture of me. And it's like, okay, yeah, that before, but there was something different, especially after Covid, where people just had this just lack of confidence in themselves. So I started realizing, like I was doing coaching sessions with people, just to get them comfortable being in front of the lens of the photo shoot they paid big money for.Lesley Logan 16:02  That's insane. I can totally see that 100%, yes.John Mollura 16:06  Yeah. So that's, that's what I really started leaning into. So my first coaching program that I came up with a couple years ago was called Authentic Men of Action. Because, you know, Rory Vaden, who actually brought us together through his Brand Builders was, he always says, you're best suited to serve the you that you used to be. And I'm like, God, I was a mess. So I thought, let me create this program to to work with men, to really help them take action and get after what is important to them and best serve people that are in their lives. And again, it kind of took off. But then, like, women started reaching out, like their girlfriends and wives, and they're like, Hey, can, like, we get in on this? And I'm like, okay, you know, cue all the limiting beliefs, you know, tripping up like, Oh, you gotta know what to say. You're gonna know how to help people. John Mollura 16:52  Almost like, you know when to, like, hit the button. You're like, okay, here they are. Like, just come at me.John Mollura 17:01  Yeah, yeah. And my wife's like, she's like, you know, you're a father to two daughters, you're a great husband. Like, why don't you just see how it goes, John, and quit over thinking this. Like, okay, so yeah. Then I opened the coaching up to the women, and then the keynotes started. Were with which turned into elite level confidence, you know? And it's just been a beautiful progression of just listening and seeing what the need is, and then answering the call and not letting those limiting beliefs stop me. Lesley Logan 17:24  Yeah, I think it like it takes, in the ideal world is like each time you get to know yourself and what you want more, and that each time you be it till you see it, like the space between hearing and limiting beliefs and still taking action, ideally, gets shorter. Like, I actually don't think that you they just go away. John Mollura 17:55  They never go away. Lesley Logan 17:56  I think if you're not a narcissistic, egotistical sociopath, like if you are, they never go away. You just recognize it. You're like, Oh, I know this station. I can actually just turn it off. Like, thank you. You know, like, I get to, I get to turn that off now, and I think that's so interesting. I also, like, was want to highlight, like, I do think that there's a massive confidence problem, and no one is like, you know, the coaches I've worked with, because I worked with a lot, since I'm in the fitness world, there's a lot of people who are like, you are, like, creating fitness programs so women feel confident. And the truth is, as my coach, is correct, no one is actually Googling how to get more confident, right? Like they're Googling, like, weight loss or whatever, but what they are wanting, the byproduct is confidence. Now that we've on the other side of Covid, I do think there's a lot of people who reckon, who are like, defeated, you know, and, and because, especially people our age who, like, you know, graduated, like, went to college in 2001 graduated to the recessions, you know, then once we started getting our legs under us, then Covid hit. Like, it kind of can feel like, if your evidence is every few years you get knocked down, you may as well stay in a safe place which doesn't make you more confident, it makes you have some dissonance, and that is where a lack of confidence comes from. So I do think that more and more people are needing it and even more aware, but they're using the word imposter syndrome and and other things to to describe it. Okay, you've done speeches before because, like, you had, like, you've had the career with, with space and all that stuff. But like, what was it like to give your first keynote under this, like, this iteration, this, like, next level, this, be it till you see it version of you?John Mollura 19:40  Yeah, one of my coaches told me something that really resonated with me, and now I share it with with my clients that want to, like, do keynote speaking. They said the best thing you can do to reduce the nerves is not to focus on yourself, because if you go out there with this mindset of, like, Oh my gosh. I need to, I need I need to, I need to not forget any lines. I need to hit my marks on the stage. I need to. I need to just, just, just, just crush this like, that's when it goes completely sideways, yeah? Because it's all inward focused. So being switching the mindset of like, okay, I'm gonna go out here. I'm well rehearsed. I've done the preparation that I need to do, and I'm doing that not so I look awesome, but so I can best serve everybody that's out in the audience. So the first time I gave that talk, you know, I did like the rotary thing, where I talked to rotary groups and get my legs under me and refined it. The first official time I gave it was to a group of people that had just completed a year of service with AmeriCorps, and they were transitioning out of that volunteer space. And now, you know, going a lot of them going back into whatever organizations they helped with, but also taking this knowledge and going forward, and they and they've changed, during these years of service.Lesley Logan 21:06  Yeah. Who they were when they started is a very different person, you know. John Mollura 21:10  Right, right. So I partnered up with AmeriCorps because they were, the leadership realized that when people would leave, they were they they didn't, they were kind of rudderless, because they weren't the same person going back to their lives they had before. So they brought me in to speak to them. And is a very beautiful thing about like ways we can sabotage ourselves with, with just, you know, whether it's it's perfectionism or having this kind of lone wolf mentality, building walls in our relationship, you know, focusing on, like perfectionism that leads to procrastination and overthinking and all the things it was helping them see and just be aware of these, these things that will pop up.Lesley Logan 21:55  Yeah, yeah. I sorry to hit you off. I think like understanding how we sabotage ourselves is one of the biggest things we could ever do for ourselves. So you mentioned perfectionism, lone wolf. What are some of the other like ways we can we can sabotage ourselves because we look at it as like it's happening to us, but really we're doing it to us.John Mollura 22:17  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So and that, that's where you know, my newest free resource that I've is on my website for people, it's The Six Leverage Points for Success, and it talks about, you know, creating legacy for yourself, like, how to honor this future you that is out there. You know, how to build your confidence. And we'll, we'll chat about here in a moment, about, like, the like, the real reason, like, why a lot of folks' confidence is lacking, talking about the ways that we can put more structure into our relationships, because people don't like to say, I'm going to put boundaries up, because that seems, you know, like they're keeping everything else. Like, no, it's not about putting walls up around. It's about putting walls up, but then putting some gates in with some quality guards that are there.Lesley Logan 23:05  Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of freedom in a boundary that people don't see it like they see it like as a cement wall. And it's like, well, it's actually just like, a guideline of how you can treat me in this situation. But okay. John Mollura 23:16  Yeah and then helping people understand the value of like focus, because so often when we're on these journeys, like, what are we doing? We're looking to that person over there, and then we're looking at their Instagram account, and then we're, you know, next thing, you know, you're completely side you know, you've spun yourself into the ground because you're looking at everybody else instead of keeping your eyes ahead. And then then finally, talking about helping people get into action. So that that's, that's kind of, those are kind of the ways that I've realized people have been sabotaging themselves. Like, okay, this is what they are, heads up, because awareness is so powerful. Yeah.Lesley Logan 23:52  Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I I think, like, every time I think, like, something is like, not working, I can actually, if I just, like, take a moment after being upset about what's not working, so, oh, I actually tried to this by myself, or I guided this, like, focusing on, like, where my marks are. Where am I doing this, as opposed to, like, how is this impacting them? Why is this the thing that they need? Like, I can see, like, where I, like, got inwardly focused and sabotaged myself when really, like, I know the answer. And I guess what the cool thing is, you can actually pivot. You can actually just make changes once you're aware. But you have to be aware of these things to see them, yeah.John Mollura 24:34  Yeah and there and there's, there's, there's another component to that, which I found is really powerful, is that it's not just being aware, then it becomes very important that we're not judging ourselves with our awareness. Because when you're judging yourself and you're aware, like, I call that like, that's where the critic lives. Like, these are the people that have had their hearts stomped on, and they're like, never, this is never gonna work. This won't work. No one will want it like that's being judgmental and aware. Where we want to be is we want to shift into, like, what I call being the seeker mindset, which is where you're aware, but then you use, I know, one of your favorite words, which is curious. When we're aware and curious, man, that's where beautiful things happen, right? Yeah, that's where, like, we're a seeker, and we're like, this is where I want to go. I'm not really sure how I'm going to get there, but I'm going to start embracing this journey and seeing what resources and people I have that can help me get to there. And spoiler alert, that there is probably going to shift a little bit, but at least you're going towards that with awareness and curiosity.Lesley Logan 25:34  Oh, I love that you called out the judgment, because I think we can. It's so easy for us to like then be aware oh, here I am being my lone wolf and like, just like, continue going down the judgment zone, which is not where creativity nor confidence can live, by the way, like, judgment and gratitude can't live in the same place. Like, so yeah, it's a whole, it's a whole, those energies don't coexist very well. Okay, so can we talk a bit about confidence? Because, like, I do think, like, I find, first of all, I'm always shocked that people think that people like you or I struggle with confidence. And I think, like, it's really hilarious because, like, I just personally think that they see in us what they want for themselves. And so there's a projection that's happening, and us just doing the thing scared shitless. Like, like, it's what they think is confidence, and really it's like, well, I'm not going around with a sign on my shirt saying I'm scared shitless while I'm doing this, but also I am doing this because I know that if I do this sooner than I think I'm ready, I'm gonna get feedback, and when I get feedback, I can get better. Like, that's actually and then confidence is a byproduct, like, can we because I feel like people have a misinterpretation of what true confidence is. John Mollura 26:51  Right, right. So what confidence is, you know, the definition is a belief in yourself, a belief in your abilities. And I'm going to start this with a question. If I ask you, or most people, I'm sure your listeners are, listeners are all lovely, wonderful people, if I ask you or your listeners, like, when you make a commitment to somebody, like, do you show up to that person you've made the commitment to? Right? Like, pretty much 100% right? What if I tweak that question and said, How good are you at showing up when you've made a promise just to yourself?Lesley Logan 27:31  See, this is interesting, because this is where, like, I'm really good with myself, but I also know that, like, the time, I'm the first born, firstborn daughter, first born grandchild. There's like, the upholder in me is real. Like, if I don't have to tell anyone to do something, I'm going to do it. But that is also where perfectionism lives, so I have to be very mindful of that. Of like, am I doing it because I'm trying to be perfect, or am I doing it because I, like, I said I would do it so. But I actually know from studies that like the most people listening, they don't, they don't keep it to themselves. They keep it for everyone else but themselves.John Mollura 28:08  Right, and that and that right, there is the root, from all the research I've done that's actually the root of people's lack of confidence, is they're not showing up for themselves. Because here's what happens, is we're lying to ourselves. We say I'm going to wake up and go to the gym, or, I mean, this is the year I'm going to start eating healthier, or I'm going to floss my teeth every night. Like, pick, pick a commitment you've made to yourself. If we continually break these commitments time and time again, well, guess what? Our brain recognizes I can't trust me.Lesley Logan 28:44  Oh, there. It's, that's it. That's confidence. It's the ability to trust yourself. John Mollura 28:50  Right. Right? Right? Lesley Logan 28:53  That's so good, yes. John Mollura 28:55  Right, and people, when we're when we get into this headspace of, like, why can't I just do the thing like, why can't I start working out? Why can't I start this business? Why can't I have this critical conversation with somebody? They're like, what I don't understand, what's wrong with me? I work with them all the time that they say this and I say, what's causing it is, obviously the root is, you're not keeping promises to yourself on whatever it is, but because you keep your promise to everybody else, your brain kind of short circuits, because it's like, wait a minute, I do keep my promises. And it's like, no, you don't. So there's this like, weird dichotomy going on in your head, as they say, the only way to rectify that is just start keeping promises to yourself and start giving your brain a new set of data to work with, instead of this old set of data that that you with these promises that you've broken to yourself.Lesley Logan 29:47  Okay, yes to all that, because we get we allow our phones to get new data all the time. We allow scientists to give us new data. We allow so much grace for people to bring in new data and yet for ourselves were like, no, I'm gonna go on that old operating system, like.John Mollura 30:04  Yeah, you're like, working on a Commodore 64. Lesley Logan 30:06  Yeah, oh, yeah. Wait, so this is a funny example. So we've, we got a used car, car of my dreams. It's used, and it is amazing. It is a 2015 that has more technology than my 2020 does. And we, but we were like, Bluetooth-ing to it, which is kind of amazing for a 2015, car to have Bluetooth, right? Kind of amazing. And we're like, oh, it's skipping. I wonder how we update this thing. And it's got, you guys, it has a DVD player. Okay? Car has a DVD player. I didn't know. I was like, oh, it's got a CD player. Were people playing CDs in 2015? No, it doesn't connect to the internet, so it cannot update its system. Like, cannot. I'm gonna have to find some dude, I'm sure it exists here, who, like, can change an operating system. Well, at least that part of the car, right? I'm sure it exists where I live. But it cannot change. However, if we look at that, like, since 2015 how much has technology changed? How much have you changed? How much have you learned about yourself, and if you're still operating off the 2015 version of you, that is going to that is not going to be fun and also going to cause a lot of issues, because the whole world has updated 10 years.John Mollura 31:16  Right. Yeah. And the beautiful thing is, it might sound daunting, like, oh my gosh, I don't want to have to, like, reinvent myself. And how am I going to keep promises to myself? You know, I haven't done the thing that I said I was going to do. How am I going to even start doing it now? And I say, the beautiful thing is, about your brain is it doesn't recognize the magnitude of the promise you keep to yourself, like it doesn't recognize the difference between the promise of like, I'm going to climb Mount Everest or I'm going to floss my teeth every night. All it's doing is kicking the block saying, done, done, done, done, and then eventually you're going to hit, like, a critical mass where you're like, wait a minute. I'm just kind of doing things that I said I was going to do that's wild, because that's the beauty of taking small, consistent actions.Lesley Logan 32:08  Yeah, yeah. It's like, I love that you brought that up. We think we need, like, some sort of big goal to get going. And really, if you are not already consistently hitting things you say you were gonna do that is, like, a recipe for disaster. Like that is a self-sabotage in itself. Like it is, like, if you are, like, wanting to, like, just make sure you put another sabotage. You'll put a goal on. You'll put a habit on. Like, if you don't go the gym every day, you're like, I'm gonna go the gym five days this week. I don't even need a crystal ball to tell you that you won't. It is impossible to go from never putting your gym bag in the car, going to the gym, hitting the red lights, getting out, knowing where the equipment is, to get in a decent workout, to get the dopamine high that makes you want to go back again. Like it doesn't work. If you live in my town, every other day there's a new construction site. So you don't even get to go the same route, you know, so like, but you have to make it small so it's attainable. That's where you know that perfectionism stuff lies, because then people are like, well, if it's not, if I don't do it, if it's not all or nothing, then it's not worth doing. Like, how do you talk to yourself about doing a small thing? What did you do? John Mollura 33:19  Right. And a lot of that comes down to like that, like, you hit the nail on the head, where people are like, well, I don't have time to get in my hour long workout, so I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it tomorrow, because, you know, I strive for excellence, and I if it's not done right, it's not worth doing at all, which I say, time out. Like, what's better? 45 minutes of exercises, and maybe you don't do the squats and the overhead press for another set or zero? Like, it's perfectionism. This, this kind of all or nothing mentality, and I call these the big three, Lesley, there's perfectionism, there's procrastination, and then there's overthinking, right? Those are three big things that just derail us from doing the things that we want to do, or the things we say are so important from us. And the good news is about these three, perfectionism, procrastination and overthinking, is they all have the same root, like we don't focus on perfectionism because we really care so much about whatever it is. We don't procrastinate because we suck at time management. That's the story we tell ourselves. I'm just bad at time management.Lesley Logan 34:31  Yeah, we're not, because there's plenty of proof that you've, like, nailed some things on time, like. John Mollura 34:35  Right, right. We don't overthink because, you know, it's just so important to us that we think of every considerable contingency. The root of procrastination, perfectionism and overthinking, it's fear, and if we get a handle on fear being the root of procrastination, perfectionism and overthinking, now we can get honest with ourselves. We can start telling ourselves the truth of what am I so scared of?Lesley Logan 35:03  Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's the question of the day. John Mollura 35:08  Yeah. And it, and it goes back to when we first started here. I said I never came up with a plan, because if you don't have a plan, you can never fail, right? You never, you can never miss your target. So it's the same with procrastination or perfectionism. We find, I bet, if we're honest with ourselves, a lot of things we procrastinate the most on or get, you know, tangled up in perfectionism and overthinking are the things that are probably the closest to our heart and perfectionism, procrastination, overthinking are so convenient ways to hide because if you procrastinate for long enough, you never do the thing. And you can never fail. You try to keep making it perfect, which, spoiler alert, perfection doesn't exist, everybody. Excellence does not perfection. We never have to do the thing. And the reason why these are usually so coupled to the things that are so important to us is because one of our greatest fears as humans, I mean, like we're social creatures, right? One of our deepest fears of everybody is just the way we're wired, is to be kicked out of the tribe, the village, the clan, whatever it is. So a lot of times we resist most putting the things out that show the most of us, because we don't want people to reject us, reject what we're doing, because that taps on a very primal fear.Lesley Logan 36:37  Yes, oh, I mean, I mean, so much so, like, I remember not wanting to put out a YouTube video. My husband's like, you should be on YouTube. It's like, you know, 2014, I was like, no, no no, because people are gonna hate it, and they're gonna wonder, who they who am I to do this? There's other people who in my industry who have been teaching longer, and they should have the time. And he goes, I don't know who those people are. I don't care. You need to be on YouTube. And I remember being so scared, and I did the thing because I had to do it kicking and screaming with him, and no one actually got mad. And I was like, oh, then what am I actually afraid of? You know, like I was afraid of being kicked out of, like, the industry, like people would think that I'm some narcissist who thinks she knows everything, and really, what I do get instead, because I did it, is that people love how I show things imperfectly. I'm quite honest and candid about where I am. I'm very direct, and I'm I invite them to go there's actually, like, your body's gonna look different doing this. And so because, because I was, because I should have as me and focus on like the person viewing it, versus like me, it actually turned out to be the best thing I could ever done, because it's so much more authentic. And what I was afraid of didn't happen. In fact, I got brought into the community more, you know, like, and that's but, you know, here's the thing, it is true that whatever you want to do, you might get kicked out of your tribe. You might. There are, there are people who are assholes, and then probably, if you ask yourself, like, do I really, like, want to be in this tribe, not being my authentic self the and you know what I mean, like, I so you're gonna get a two by four to the head, is really what's gonna happen. But your tribe might come with you. You'd be surprised, like, how many people were like, Whoa, John or Lesley really did the thing. And I'm, I'm inspired by them, they actually might join in.John Mollura 38:31  Yeah, there's, there's a quote by CS Lewis that I absolutely love. You know, the dude who wrote The Chronicles of Narnia is he says friendship is born that moment that someone says, Wait a minute, you too? I thought I was the only one. Right? Lesley Logan 38:50  Well, John, I could talk to you forever about confidence and imposter syndrome. I really do love this topic. I'm so freaking glad this is what you're doing, because your journey has brought you here. And one of the reasons I wanted to have you back on the pod is, like, I think people get so hung up on like, well, I said I was going to be the photographer, so I've got to be the photographer. I made that switch. And the reality is is like, that could have just been the first next step for you. And so I really wanted people to see, like, what can happen. Look what can happen in three in three years. Like, that's kind of insane. Like, it sounds like a long time. It's not a long time. I can't believe this podcast has been this long. I feel like I just started it. So even though. John Mollura 39:36  That's really hitting you deep, isn't it? It's like the fifth time you mentioned.Lesley Logan 39:36  I know I might.John Mollura 39:36  Let's unpack that, Lesley. Lesley Logan 39:36  Well, here's what it is. The unpacking is, I actually don't think I'm getting older. I think I'm the same age I was when I moved to Vegas. Like I, actually, we moved here in June of 2020, so in two months, this will have lived here for five years. And It shocks me every day, because I feel like we just moved here. And so when things like this happen, or I meet my friend's kids I haven't seen a few years, I'm like, oh I have gotten older, and, like, not that I'm scared of getting older. That's not it at all. It's just that I actually haven't noticed that. I haven't noticed how much time has flown. And I think one, it's good to notice it, because you can celebrate all that you have done in the last three years. It's kind of epic, right? And then two, time is always going and so what are we doing with that time? You know, if you are procrastin on something, I hope that the five times I mentioned, like, how long it's been, you realize, if you were with us on episode 120 and you still haven't done the thing you wanted to do, like, this is your sign. John Mollura 40:37  Yeah, here's your two by four. Lovingly swung by Lesley and John. Lesley Logan 40:41  Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I think that's really the unpacking. It's like, I hope that people who have have listened from that episode on have either noticed their sabotaging moments or are going, oh my goodness, it has been three years. Okay. What can I do today? You know, like, what can I do to be it till I see it today? Like, that's what I hope. Let me get this, anyways, we're gonna take a brief break and we can find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you. John Mollura 41:08  Super duper. Lesley Logan 41:10  Hi, John. Where do you hang out? Where can they take your group or your coaching or watch a keynote? Where's it all happening?John Mollura 41:18  Yeah, so they can go to johnmollura.com J-O-H-N-M-O-L-L-U-R-A dot com, and there is a fun little button there that says, schedule a free call with John. And it is truly that. It is a free call with me, because I just love to chat with people and see where they're at. It's not a sales call. It's just, I love having conversations with people about that. So johnmollura.com they can also download the free resources, the six leverage points for success that I talked about, and they can also get my Elite Level Confidence Blueprint. So there's actually two free resources there. They are under the free stuff tab, creatively titled, but yeah. Just love to connect with people. I post regularly on Instagram, little daily things there my thoughts and musings, and sometimes there's just funny stuff or bloopers. So, John Mollura on Instagram.Lesley Logan 42:09  I love it. Okay, you have given us so many things. And obviously those freebies sound like a Be It Action Item all in themselves, but what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps can people take to be it till they see it? John Mollura 42:19  Right. So when you face these decisions, moment to moment, minute to minute, hour to hour, day to day, when you hit those decision points, you need to ask yourself, is what I'm going to do or not do going to cause me to be a hero to the future you? Is it when I meet the future you in the future, is it going to be standing there like downtrodden, tired, disappointed that we didn't go after it, or when you meet the future you, is it going to just like high five you and give you a big hug and say, thank you for honoring me, thank you for doing the thing in that moment.Lesley Logan 42:19  Oh, I love that. Oh, that's so fun. John Mollura 42:38  Yeah, super deep. Lesley Logan 42:48  That's great. I think that's such an impactful way to explore the fear, too. Yeah, guys, how will you use that tip in your life? Make sure John knows. Make sure you share it with the Be It Pod. Also share this episode with a friend. You know those friends who like keep overthinking the thing or procrastinating send it to them, they will only notice at this moment that why you're sending it to them. But like, you know, sometimes people need to hear it from someone else in a different word or just a different time, and so that's how we actually all rise up. We need to do it together. That's what makes your sandbox with your boundaries a more playful place, because everyone is understanding where that's coming from. So thank you for listening. John, thank you for being here. Fun to catch up with you. It's so good. We'll have to, we have to see each other in real life at some point. But, you guys, you know what to do. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 43:54  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 44:36  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 44:41  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 44:46  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 44:53  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 44:56  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley Logan calls out the performance review bias that measures women by their “likability” instead of their impact—and why that needs to end. This week's episode is a fiery reminder that your work deserves recognition, not personality notes. Lesley unpacks how bias shows up in feedback, how leaders can fix it, and why celebrating your wins out loud is a powerful self-advocacy.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Data showing high-performing women get more personality critiques than men.Why unconscious bias impacts women's growth and confidence in their roles.How leaders can create fair and constructive performance review systems.Why sharing your personal wins helps shift culture and visibility.How Lesley reframed “bragging” as a radical act of self-respect.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsThe Female Quotient® - https://www.instagram.com/p/DGvdCr2NVoL If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:44  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? We're almost there. We're almost to the holiday and then the chaos, and I'm gonna go on winter tour. We're almost there. We're not there yet. We got an extra week before that one holiday comes up, and I think that's great. And if you don't live in the States then you are just doing great. Lesley Logan 1:07  All right, it's the FYF episode. So this is where it's short, sweet. Get you thinking about ways you could be it till you see it. I get to riff on some things. We get to know each other better. Send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions. Send in a question as well, we answer those on the recap. Those happen on Thursdays. Interviews happen on Tuesdays. I'm fucking loving the interviews that are coming up, and we have a really great one coming up that's gonna lead into our habit series. So hope you're subscribed to the channel so you never miss an episode from us. Lesley Logan 1:29  Okay, this was an interesting thing. I don't know if it inspired me or pissed me off, so we're gonna remind ourselves together. So it says around 76% of high performing women reported, reportedly received negative feedback from their managers, compared to just 2% of high performing men. Oh yeah, this one pissed me off. This comes from data collected from 23,000 employees across 250 organizations, by the way, so not a small, not a small thing. Why is this happening? Unconscious bias leads managers, male or female, to typically evaluate women during performance reviews on their personality rather than the work they contribute. Are they easy to work with? Do they get along with everyone? Are they likable or collaborative? Doesn't it, I just want to, I just want to be fucking pissed. I'm pissed off, right? So like no one's asking if a guy is likable, which, by the way, like often they smell, or things like that, like no one's asking. They're valued on the work that they do, but it's always been this way, and we have to figure out how to change this. I think it comes from like, raising girls to be quiet, stop doing that. We need to raise them to brag, you know, and like, we need to raise like we need to raise them not to be like, oh, you know, make sure, no, tell people how you feel. You know, it's important. So I think this is an interesting thing. I don't know how we solve this problem, but if you are a leader who gives reviews, maybe make sure that, if you're telling women that their person, like their personality, has some issues, make sure you do with men too, or don't do with either of them, right? These areas of feedback don't necessarily touch on women's performance, which hurts both the employee and the employer. That's right. The employee, remember, is a high performer, she's going to be looking for concrete ways to grow and progress in her career. If she's receiving feedback on how nice she is. Well, she might not, she might start looking for work elsewhere. Managers, keep it constructive and hold on to top talent. This is so true. If you've got these high achieving women working for you, but you're busy working on things that they need to change about themselves. They're going to go somewhere else who wants them, right? And you're also not helping them better themselves for the work that they're doing for you. So I love it. I agree. We need to consider how we are, the expectations on women, because they are doing so much. I'm not I'm not trying to shit on the men, because, like, there are some really great men out there, but I do think that we are missing out on some good stuff, and we're not treating people in a way that allows everybody to win. And there is a way, like, there's no pie, right? So if, if you're going to do performance reviews around likeability. You got to do it for everybody. If you're just going to do it on performance, you got to do it for everybody like you can't have that bias, and if you do have that bias, it's probably a good time to get that checked out. And maybe you need to change your review process. And if it's happening to you, at your review process, get inspired by these other ladies and find work somewhere else where you can be challenged because you're fucking amazing, right? And start celebrating your wins in front of them, right? That might help them. I think sometimes it's really easy to go, oh, you know, like to downplay the things that you did. Lesley Logan 4:33  So okay, let's start bragging about you guys. We have Charlotte Coker. She said, I finally launched my website after several months of working on it. Little by little, I'm very proud of myself for doing something so outside my comfort zone, my home studio, feels like it's really rocking and rolling. Yay, yay, Charlotte. It is really rocking and rolling. You are doing a lot, I know, like it's really easy to go, Oh my gosh, I expect to be done by now. But like, little by little. I mean, the thing is, is you actually, nothing happens overnight, like websites, especially, they take time. So I'm super proud of you. I think you're doing great work, and I am so excited that you are kicking off your home studio before it is even ready. That is being it till you see it full and on. And so way to go. Thank you for sharing that with us. You guys need to share your wins at beitpod.com/questions. Lesley Logan 5:23  Okay, my win. Okay. I think if you've been listening to podcast for a long time, you know, I've been on a hobby hunt. I think I have found my hobby, and it's not getting my nails done. I am so excited. We had guests come on to talk about tarot, and I was so obsessed with her, and she sent me a deck, and I'm not really sure if her episodes out yet or not, so we'll save more information on that later. But ever since then, then I, like, found this book that helps me study tarot, and I can do it with writing. But then I found another book that's a little bit different, the same they all have, they all say the same things, but in a different way, which helps me, like, repeat what I'm learning. And then I found an app. It's like the Duolingo. They call the Duolingo for tarot, and I'm gonna reach out and see if they want to do ads, because I'm kind of obsessed with it. Every single day I I do this, and it's not easy, right? Like, it's definitely something I feel like I'm gonna have a better grasp on the more I practice out loud. This is kind of the ones I like, I have to, like, read out loud and do it out loud. But at any rate, I'm super excited because I was a I was a little like, should I call it a hobby? I've only been, like, playing it, but now we're like, four months, and I do it daily, and I really love it, and it is a great way for me as a person who's like, I want a journal. I want to have some more self-reflection time. It helps me helps have some self-reflection. So I can't wait for you to hear the episode, because you're gonna hear someone who's never delved into tarot, like interview this person, and now you'll know I'm, like, a hobbyist right now, and (inaudible) to do readings for people, just maybe for myself. But I am just like feeling really excited that I think I have a hobby that I like, want to stick with, and I have been trying to find a hobby for years, and I'm feeling joy around it, and that's my win. Okay, what's yours? Send it into the Be It Pod. Lesley Logan 7:09  Here is your affirmation for the weekend. I deserve information and I deserve moments of silence, too. I deserve information and I deserve moments of silence, too. I deserve information and I deserve moments of silence, too. You guys, as an introvert who likes people, I love my moments of silence as much as I love seeing you and getting your information. So that affirmation really feels like it's very representative. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 7:44  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 8:27  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 8:31  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 8:36  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 8:43  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 8:46  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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A TSA worker in Virginia sues to allow transgender officers to perform pat-downs in airports. Meanwhile, Dana Loesch reacts a video released by U.S. bishops condemning the President Trump's “inhumane” deportation raids by ICE for border security.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/Dana  OR CALL 972-PATRIOTWhat are you waiting for? Switch today. Use promo code DANA for a free month of service.Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaSave 15% sitewide during Byrna's biggest Black Friday and Cyber Monday sale. Don't miss out!Fast Growing Treeshttps://FastGrowingTrees.comGet up to 50% off plus 15% off your next purchase with code DANA—visit and save today! Valid for a limited time, terms and conditions apply.Noblehttps://NobleGoldInvestments.com/DanaOpen a new qualified IRA or cash account with Noble Gold and get a FREE 10-ounce Silver Flag Bar plus a Silver American Eagle Proof Coin. Bub's Naturalshttps://BubsNaturals.comGet 20% off your order at Bub's Naturals with code DANA. Support the show and tell them Dana sent you.PreBornhttps://Preborn.com/DANAAnswer the call and help save lives—dial pound 250 and say “Baby,” or give securely online. Make your gift today.AmmoSquaredhttps://AmmoSquared.comDon't get caught without ammo and be sure to tell them you heard about Ammo Squared on this show. Keltechttps://KelTecWeapons.comKelTec builds every KS7 GEN2 right here in the USA with American materials and workers—upgrade your home defense today. All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Don't wait until flu season knocks at your door. Use code DANA10 at checkout to save 10%. Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! HumanNhttps://HumanN.comStart supporting your cardiovascular health with SuperBeets now available at your local Walmart.

Speaker Johnson says he would put a contentious bill that would require the DoJ to release the Epstein Files to a floor vote next week. Dana explains why there is no “there” there. A flight from Sky Harbor to DCA makes an emergency stop in Kansas City to remove a disruptive passenger who called Reps Gosar, Biggs and Crane, “fascists”. Sharon Osborne breaks down after playing a heartfelt voicemail that President Trump left her to give condolences to her family after the death of Ozzy. The US mint has made the last Penny in history.Did Tucker Carlson just condemn attempts to KILL HITLER in the middle of WWII & the Holocaust? The first openly trans lawmaker in America from New Hampshire has admitted to horrible abuse crimes against children. Bloomberg is extorting the gun company, Glock, with the promise of ruinous litigation.Sen. John Fetterman was hospitalized after sustaining a fall near his home. JFK's gay grandson launches his Congressional campaign with an interesting tagline. Democrats began SCREECHING at each other on the House floor when members of their own party defected and voted to reopen the government. More on Epstein. Meghan Markle gets slammed for a 'crime against bagels' after her bizarre flower-topped recipe.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/Dana  OR CALL 972-PATRIOTWhat are you waiting for? Switch today. Use promo code DANA for a free month of service.Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaSave 15% sitewide during Byrna's biggest Black Friday and Cyber Monday sale. Don't miss out!Fast Growing Treeshttps://FastGrowingTrees.comGet up to 50% off plus 15% off your next purchase with code DANA—visit and save today! Valid for a limited time, terms and conditions apply.Noblehttps://NobleGoldInvestments.com/DanaOpen a new qualified IRA or cash account with Noble Gold and get a FREE 10-ounce Silver Flag Bar plus a Silver American Eagle Proof Coin. Bub's Naturalshttps://BubsNaturals.comGet 20% off your order at Bub's Naturals with code DANA. Support the show and tell them Dana sent you.PreBornhttps://Preborn.com/DANAAnswer the call and help save lives—dial pound 250 and say “Baby,” or give securely online. Make your gift today.AmmoSquaredhttps://AmmoSquared.comDon't get caught without ammo and be sure to tell them you heard about Ammo Squared on this show. Keltechttps://KelTecWeapons.comKelTec builds every KS7 GEN2 right here in the USA with American materials and workers—upgrade your home defense today. All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Don't wait until flu season knocks at your door. Use code DANA10 at checkout to save 10%. Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! HumanNhttps://HumanN.comStart supporting your cardiovascular health with SuperBeets now available at your local Walmart.

Sharon Osborne breaks down after playing a heartfelt voicemail that President Trump left her to give condolences to her family after the death of Ozzy. Meanwhile, Dana explains why there is no “there” there in response the latest release of emails from the Epstein Files.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/Dana  OR CALL 972-PATRIOTWhat are you waiting for? Switch today. Use promo code DANA for a free month of service.Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaSave 15% sitewide during Byrna's biggest Black Friday and Cyber Monday sale. Don't miss out!Fast Growing Treeshttps://FastGrowingTrees.comGet up to 50% off plus 15% off your next purchase with code DANA—visit and save today! Valid for a limited time, terms and conditions apply.Noblehttps://NobleGoldInvestments.com/DanaOpen a new qualified IRA or cash account with Noble Gold and get a FREE 10-ounce Silver Flag Bar plus a Silver American Eagle Proof Coin. Bub's Naturalshttps://BubsNaturals.comGet 20% off your order at Bub's Naturals with code DANA. Support the show and tell them Dana sent you.PreBornhttps://Preborn.com/DANAAnswer the call and help save lives—dial pound 250 and say “Baby,” or give securely online. Make your gift today.AmmoSquaredhttps://AmmoSquared.comDon't get caught without ammo and be sure to tell them you heard about Ammo Squared on this show. Keltechttps://KelTecWeapons.comKelTec builds every KS7 GEN2 right here in the USA with American materials and workers—upgrade your home defense today. All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Don't wait until flu season knocks at your door. Use code DANA10 at checkout to save 10%. Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! HumanNhttps://HumanN.comStart supporting your cardiovascular health with SuperBeets now available at your local Walmart.

Singer Tish Hyman CONFRONTS Pelosi's predecessor, CA State Sen. Scott Weiner over his stance on trans following getting assaulted by a biological man in a women's gym locker room. Meanwhile, Dana refreshes people's memories about the values of Nick Fuentes vs. Charlie Kirk when discussing the true meaning of ConservatismThank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Patriot Mobilehttps://PatriotMobile.com/Dana  OR CALL 972-PATRIOTWhat are you waiting for? Switch today. Use promo code DANA for a free month of service.Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/danaSave 15% sitewide during Byrna's biggest Black Friday and Cyber Monday sale. Don't miss out!Fast Growing Treeshttps://FastGrowingTrees.comGet up to 50% off plus 15% off your next purchase with code DANA—visit and save today! Valid for a limited time, terms and conditions apply.Noblehttps://NobleGoldInvestments.com/DanaOpen a new qualified IRA or cash account with Noble Gold and get a FREE 10-ounce Silver Flag Bar plus a Silver American Eagle Proof Coin. Bub's Naturalshttps://BubsNaturals.comGet 20% off your order at Bub's Naturals with code DANA. Support the show and tell them Dana sent you.PreBornhttps://Preborn.com/DANAAnswer the call and help save lives—dial pound 250 and say “Baby,” or give securely online. Make your gift today.AmmoSquaredhttps://AmmoSquared.comDon't get caught without ammo and be sure to tell them you heard about Ammo Squared on this show. Keltechttps://KelTecWeapons.comKelTec builds every KS7 GEN2 right here in the USA with American materials and workers—upgrade your home defense today. All Family Pharmacyhttps://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana Don't wait until flu season knocks at your door. Use code DANA10 at checkout to save 10%. Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.com OR CALL 1-800-4-RELIEFTurn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3-week Relief Factor Quick Start for only $19.95 today! HumanNhttps://HumanN.comStart supporting your cardiovascular health with SuperBeets now available at your local Walmart.

Most people understand the basic foundations of health. For example, your regular habits like diet, exercise, and sleep obviously make a substantial impact on the way you feel and operate on a daily basis. However, in our culture, we've normalized a lot of things that can have adverse effects on your health.  On this compilation episode of The Model Health Show, you're going to learn about seven scary things you need to avoid if you want to live a healthy lifestyle. You're going to learn from some of the world's top experts, including toxicologists, biological dentists, and the FDA commissioner on habits and products you should ditch for better health.  You're going to learn about the unhealthy ingredients hiding in your personal care products, specific dental treatments that could be blocking your vitality, and common kitchen items that might be making you sick. If you're ready to take your health to the next level, I hope you enjoy this episode on 7 scary things you need to avoid!   In this episode you'll discover: What percentage of American citizens have chronic diseases. (2:19) The risk factors associated with using conventional deodorants. (4:12) Why using antiperspirants blocks your natural detox pathways. (4:54)  The chemical used in dry cleaning that's linked with neurodegenerative diseases. (17:52) Why Marines at Camp Lejeune had an elevated risk of Parkinson's disease. (19:33) How honey measures up against traditional cough medicine. (24:44) How to use propolis to supercharge your immune health. (26:31) What percentage of disease is controlled by genes. (36:08) Three fundamental changes that occur when the body is under stress. (37:08) Why a root canal is one of the top 3 health killers. (48:19) The health dangers of metal dental treatments. (54:05)   Why you should never put plastic items in your dishwasher. (57:27)  How using plastic cutting boards can increase your exposure to microplastics. (58:19) The truth about deaths caused by medical errors. (1:10:26) How the medical system has caused or worsened major health epidemics. (1:12:19) Items mentioned in this episode include: Beekeepersnaturals.com/model -Save up to 30% on natural remedies! Thelumebox.com/model - Experience the next-level benefits of red light therapy at home? Enjoy an exclusive $260 off the premium LUMEBOX red light therapy system, designed to boost recovery, skin health, and overall vitality. Personal Care Products That Are Poisoning You - Watch the full interview with Dr. Yvonne Burkart!  The Root Cause of Parkinson's Disease - Watch the full interview with Dr. Ray Dorsey! Use This Science-Backed Immune System Support - Watch the full interview with Carly Stein Kremer!  What Is Stress Doing to Our Immune Systems? - Watch the full interview with Dr. Bruce Lipton!  The Health Killers Lurking in Your Mouth - Watch the full interview with Dr. Dominik Nischwitz! Detox Kitchen Secrets for a Healthier You - Watch the full interview with Dr. Vivian Chen! The Truth About US Healthcare - Watch the full interview with Dr. Marty Makary! The Shocking Ways Red Light Therapy Can Transform Your Body - Watch my red light therapy masterclass!  Be sure you are subscribed to this podcast to automatically receive your episodes:  Apple Podcasts Spotify Soundcloud Pandora YouTube  This episode of The Model Health Show is brought to you by Beekeeper's Naturals and Lumebox. Reinvent your medicine cabinet for with clean, effective products powered by the beehive & backed by science. Claim up to a 30% discount at beekeepersnaturals.com/model. Experience the next-level benefits of red light therapy at home? Enjoy an exclusive $260 off the premium LUMEBOX red light therapy system, designed to boost recovery, skin health, and overall vitality - Thelumebox.com/model⁠

#899: Join us as we sit down with Carly Kremer – beekeeper, mother, & the founder of Beekeeper's Naturals. What began as Carly's personal quest to heal her body after battling autoimmune issues evolved into a full-blown mission to harness the powerful, science-backed healing potential of the hive. In this episode, Carly dives deep into the world of bees – breaking down the real benefits of propolis, royal jelly, and bee venom, and how these natural ingredients can supercharge your immunity, brain function, and overall wellness. She also reveals the truth behind traditional medicine vs. bee-based healing, shares ethical beekeeping practices, and explains how tapping into the wisdom of the hive can transform your health from the inside out!    To Watch the Show click HERE   To Listen to Episode #347 with Carly Kremer click HERE    For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Carley Kramer click HERE   To connect with Beekeeper's Naturals click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at +1 (512) 537-7194.   To Shop Beekeeper's Naturals visit http://beekeepersnaturals.com/SKINNY and use code SKINNY for 20% off your order.    Visit http://c1p.org to donate to the Community First Project, a mission to make communities safer by ensuring the quality & integrity of our nation's law enforcement agencies.   This episode is sponsored by Hiya Health Receive 50% off your first order. To claim this deal you must go to http://hiyahealth.com/SKINNY.    This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp Give online therapy a try at http://betterhelp.com/SKINNY and get on your way to being your best self.   This episode is sponsored by HERS Visit http://forhers.com/skinny to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you.   This episode is sponsored by Wayfair Get organized, refreshed, and ready for the holidays for way less. Head to http://Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home.   This episode is sponsored by The RealReal Get an extra $100 site credit when you sell for the first time on http://TheRealReal.com/skinny.   This episode is sponsored by Superpower Head to http://Superpower.com to learn more and lock in the special $199 price while it lasts.   This episode is sponsored by Little Spoon Get 50% off your first online order at http://littlespoon.com/SKINNY with code SKINNY at checkout. This episode is sponsored by Cozy Earth Head to http://cozyearth.com and use my code SKINNY for up to 20% off sitewide!   Produced by Dear Media