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From low self-esteem to global impact, David Corbin shares the mindset shifts and bold strategies that shaped his success. In this empowering episode, he breaks down his signature frameworks like “Face it, Follow it, Fix it” and “Intended Brand Descriptors,” offering game-changing insights on branding with integrity, personal growth, and radical responsibility.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The surprising ways curiosity and intuition sparked David's award-winning inventions.The mindset shift that helped David drop 50 pounds and stay energized.Why illuminating the negative is a superpower—not a weakness.How to avoid “brand slaughter” and fully live your brand integrity.The power of "meditration" to quiet your ego and unlock next-level insights.Episode References/Links:David Corbin's Website - https://www.davidcorbin.comDavid Corbin's Facebook - https://beitpod.com/davidfacebookDavid Corbin's Email - david@davidcorbin.comIlluminate: Harnessing the Positive Power of Negative Thinking by David Corbin - https://a.co/d/gXB8bsoPreventing Brandslaughter: How to Preserve, Support and Grow Your Brand Asset Value by David Corbin - https://a.co/d/h2yIWgeThe Illuminated Brand by David Corbin - https://a.co/d/8SuzrOUEat That Frog by Brian Tracy - https://a.co/d/jaui08nFrom WTF to OMG, with a Little LOL: Unpacking Life's Hidden Lessons by David Corbin and Kerry Jacobson - https://a.co/d/iD3ZNpBGuest Bio:Born and raised in New York, David Corbin brought his hustle and heart to California over 30 years ago. Along the way, he caught the entrepreneurial bug, launched successful ventures, and pioneered innovative solutions — like his award-winning touchscreen patient interview system, recognized by luminaries including Tom Peters and Maya Angelou. A “Mentor to Mentors”, Dave has been the behind-the-scenes secret weapon for leaders aiming to illuminate their organizations' true potential.But Dave's not just about business; he's about authenticity and practical transformation. Whether it's a Woodstock-inspired motto (“You're either green and growing or ripe and rotting”) or his signature approach (“Face it, Follow it, Fix it”), Dave infuses real-world solutions with unbridled energy, humor, and integrity. (https://davidcorbin.com/about) If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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In my career, in my relationship, in my relationship with myself, in my health, in my health habits, what am I not facing? And then, you know, the ego goes, well, I don't know if I knew I'd face it. No, you wouldn't. So face it and then follow it and then fix it.Lesley Logan 0:22  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:01  All right, Be It babe, get ready. Get your notepads out. Get a pen out. If you listen to us on 1.5 1.75 speed, I'm gonna be really honest. You might wanna slow this one down. There's a lot of acronyms, and this guest and I had the best fucking time. I'll be really honest. I, I really was like, who is this person on my podcast? After we stopped hitting record, he and I were like, I don't know how you got on this pod. He's like, I don't know how I'm on this pod. And then my husband comes in, and I'm just gonna spoil for you. My husband is the one who met him, and my husband is the one who brought him on the podcast, and that is why he, like, got to skip all the things where I would find out who this person is and what they're going to talk about, and why we're talking and, like, what's going to go on. But I'm going to tell you right now I didn't need any of that information for this to be the most amazing interview ever. Like, this is going to be one that you save. This is going to be when you re-listen to you. I promise you're going to re-listen to it as soon as it's over because I want to re-listen to it right now. And I was just there and I just did it. I want to, like, take notes. I am obsessed with this person, and I really do hope that they stay in my life in some way. And he gave us some excellent Be It Action Items, but the whole thing is a bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted action item you could take. And so David Corbin is our guest today, and you guys, he's pretty bad ass. So here you go. Lesley Logan 2:31  All right, Be It babe, I've had a great guest. The guy seems very chill, but also has done some amazing things in this world, and we're gonna hear all about it. So David Corbin, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?David Corbin 2:44  Ah, who am I? It's really funny. My mother passed away not knowing who her youngest son really was. What I did for a living. She told all of her friends I laundered money. She didn't have a clue what I did, but I could tell you what I do and kind of who I am. I I've written 14 books, and a third of them made it to the Wall Street Journal bestseller list, so some of the ideas are really catching on USA Today list, and I've done a couple TED talks, and I'm an inventor, and I won two international awards for these inventions that I've done in healthcare and in wellness and stuff. But I'm really none of that. I'm really an ex Woodstock-attending hippie who's a father and a grandfather and a husband to a beloved goddess, and I'm a pickleball player and a tennis player. That's who I am. Boom. Mic drop.Lesley Logan 3:43  Okay, I have never, I think a lot of people can relate to like their parents not understanding what they do. But I do think that most of them probably think that they don't launder money. So I feel like, but, you know, it took my parents a long time to understand that what I do is not yoga. So, you know.David Corbin 4:00  Yeah, right, you do that Pilates thing (inaudible) with the Pilates, you with the FAA, with that Pilates show (inaudible).Lesley Logan 4:08  No, it's okay. We don't need to talk about it today. But I guess, like, where I want to start is, like, how do you like, how do you become someone who writes 14 books and does two TEDx talks and like, has a goddess of a wife? Like, where? Like, how did we get here?David Corbin 4:21  Yes, pure god shot, really, because I'm really Forrest Gump, I ain't the smartest guy in the world, but I am the damn luckiest. But no, I've been, you know, I grew up in New York. I was a low self esteem kid. Had to figure stuff out, you know, shoveled snow in the winter and mowed lawns in the summer. And I wasn't the brightest kid. I started to shovel snow in the summer and mow lawns in the winter, but, you know, so I did all that sort of stuff. And then, you know, sort of grew up, and at a time when, you know, the world was a little messed up, not like it is now. And you know, we were in a Vietnam War, and I was protesting. The war, and I got pretty active and engaged in that. And, you know, did all that groovy stuff. And, you know, was it Woodstock? It was a backstage at Woodstock. Lesley Logan 5:07  Oh, my god. Oh, my god. David Corbin 5:10  Yeah it was sick. And then, you know, started businesses. And, my gosh, had I did a TED Talk about one where I was, I did something called Woodstock wisdom. That was a TED Talk. It's kind of cool. I gave away make believe LSD, it was definitely an interesting TED Talk. And, you know, on and on. And then, you know, I would create businesses. I then product, build companies around the business, sell the business. And I learned stuff, you know, like, I learned stuff. I mean, I went to college and and all, but I really learned stuff through life, through bouncing and pinging it off of people, and, you know, with black and blue marks in life, you know what I mean. So I I learned some stuff, and I put them to use, and then people would ask me about it. I teach them about it, and then ended up doing, speaking and writing books about those things. And I just kept learning and practicing putting it in place and getting results. People notice it. They say, hey, man, can you help me? And I would help them. Then I'd write a book about it. And so it's just, it's really organic, you know? I mean, I was the president of one of the most prestigious massage colleges in the country, right? And how did that happen? Just pure by accident. My friends started it years later. They were functional in the classroom, but they were dysfunctional in the boardroom and so, so all these things just I don't know, man, I'm telling you. Forrest Gump, Lesley Logan 6:42  I, thank you for sharing the journey because I think, like, people would see, oh my gosh, two TED talks, 14 books, like, you know the confidence that comes from from you, but to hear like was a kid, you had low self-esteem. And I also love hearing like I went to college, and I really thought, like, why am I doing this? But most of it was to get out of a small town. And, like, you can't really get out of a small town. Just like, I'm gonna move. Like, no one was gonna let me to move to L.A. without going to college. So I had to, like, go to college so I could move to L.A. but, like, but I, you know, I, I was someone who's like, why? I don't even know what I'm gonna do with this degree. Like, what do I'm an elder millennial, so like, what do you do with a degree after college? Like, and it's then, it's a recession. So it doesn't, you know what? I just really didn't know it. But I realized over time, and the things I fell into, is that everything kind of layers, if you're willing to look at it. And so you said to yourself, like, you just said recently, like, I help these people, and then, like, I wrote a book about it. So what? What prompted you to, like, reflect enough to share what you were learning, because so many people would reflect and just like, keep it to themselves.David Corbin 7:53  Yeah, I, you know, I had a good inner dialog, and I kind of talked to myself, what's working, what's not working, blah, blah, blah. You just sort of develop this stuff. All I could say is that when you when you're growing up, like I kind of grew up as like an orphan in a family, so I was kind of alone. Everybody was older than me, and so I was kind of like left alone. And by the way, I stayed in college for a different reason. Mine was to not get my ass shot up in Vietnam. So I had to keep my ass in college and stuff like that.Lesley Logan 8:26  And you had to get a certain GPA. You couldn't just be in college because my father didn't get the GPA, and that's why he was in Vietnam.David Corbin 8:33  Yeah, and I wasn't, and I wasn't going to go, but, but what I think my secret sauce is being awake, aware, alert. My heart's filled with love, and my mind is filled with opportunity seeking. So I see an opportunity. I wrote a book called Luminate: Harnessing the Positive Power of Negative Thinking, right, which is a whole different scene, because, you know, you can't outrun your shadow, but I would look and I taught face it, follow it and fix it. I mean, like, I knew that you can't solve everything you face but you can't solve anything unless you face it. So I wrote this book about face it, follow it and fix it. And that's how I created my inventions. That's how I invented my companies is face it. Here's it like in healthcare. I looked at this thing even before COVID and healthcare burnout with doctors and nurses and turnover was over a $4 billion per year problem. That was before COVID, right? So I went face that. That sucks. Follow it like why is that happening? Well, they treat them like shit, and they, you know, the hours and stuff, there's no there's stress constantly. There's no inter interruption of the pattern of stress. Follow it into the future. Well, we're gonna have a shortage of doctors and nurses. So what's the fix? So I invented a pod. It's a four foot by four foot pod with nature video. And they go in there, how do you feel? They answer some questions. They choose a video journey. Afterwards three to eight minutes, they say, How do you feel now? And in three to eight minutes, they go from their crazy roles and goals down into their souls so they're more present with themselves and others. And we prove it, we won the International Healthcare design award for innovation. We're in every hospital in New York. We're in 14 states, all because I keep my eyes and ears open, I say, What does love look like in this situation? Well, there's a problem, face it, follow it and fix it. And I think any listener of your podcast, or any this is my third podcast I'm doing today, if they ask themselves, what am I not facing in my career, in my relationship, in my relationship with myself, in my health, in my health habits, what am I not facing and then, you know, the ego goes, well, I don't know if I knew I'd face it. No, you wouldn't. So face it and then follow it and then fix it. I mean, I was 50 pounds overweight, and I had to face it like face it. Why, you know, and then follow it. Why am I 50 pounds? Well, I drink two, three glasses of wine after dinner, and then my blood sugar would go low, and I'd eat anything in the house, and then I go to sleep. So I turned into a fat person. And, you know, follow it out into the future, I was hoping I would have grandchildren. I won't be able to play with my grandchildren, so the face it and the follow it, and then you go into the fix. So that's one of the models that I teach in one of my books. And and it's kind of cool, because when you get known as the illuminator, which I was, then people hire you, like one company, I can't tell you the name of it, but it rhymes with schmomanos Pizza. They hired me to be their chief illumination officer, and we illuminated the fact that their pizza tastes like crap, you know. And then they, they did a whole ad campaign that said, our pizza tastes like crap. And they, I don't know if you're old enough to remember that, but did a whole campaign around that, because we illuminated, because we found, look, first off, here's some of the stuff. Okay, face it. Follow and fix it. The their issue was their profits sucked. Yeah, right. And they wanted to go public, so we faced it. One of the things we said is we can't move forward when your profits suck like that, so we followed, why are your profits so low? Well, it's because most people don't know what they're having for dinner by 4:30pm and they call up and they go, man, I got two kids and a dog and my neighbor's kid, I need to buy something, right? And they're put on hold. So what we found is they weren't in the fast food business. They were in the crisis intervention business. When you call 911, you don't want to be put on hold, right? So we taught all their people to be crisis intervention people, and they go, I got two kids and my neighbor's kid and my dog. What do I get? And instead of, like, I don't know what do you want? They go, no problem. We take care. That's our with that's our Package B with two round discs of cardboard and fake cheese and ketchup and crap on it and a big old bottle of sugar water with caffeine to get those little bastards to bounce off the wall. And they go, yes, that's exactly what I need. So we faced it, followed it, and fixed it. Well, now, I really don't choose to work with companies that are selling fast food, and I don't, you see the example of that. They have no idea. They didn't have a clue.Lesley Logan 13:54  Well, because you get so close to it. And also, you know, depending on what time of the day, like you can either go, oh my god, I can totally take on that problem, or you can put yourself in a spiral. At least that's me. Maybe that's just me, but I really like this, because I'll often say, like, reflect, correct and continue, but I like, thank you. And you know, like, we can't we're not gonna be perfect all the time. Even our best ideas are going to get to market and or get to your friends or get to your family, and somewhere in the translation, something like didn't happen, or people like, hold on, what's this? And we're all going to have to face it, follow it and fix it, or we don't, and it doesn't go where we wanted to go. And then we go, well, there's another idea that didn't work, you know? And so my my husband had a business coach who talked about, like, hugging the cactus, which makes me, like, think about, like facing it. Like we have to actually take responsibility for where we got to where we are. And it doesn't mean you have to beat yourself up. It doesn't mean that you have to spend a lot of time, like there, but you do have to go, Okay, I did put one step in front of the other and got myself here. I want to be over here. If I stay here, this is where it's going to go. I get more of this, which is not awesome, or I can do these things. And if I do that, what does that look like in the future? And then you can take some change. I really am obsessed with this, David, it's great.David Corbin 15:16  Yeah. G.R.F.R., baby, Get Real For Results. Get Real For Results. I love hug the cactus. One of my business partners wrote a book sold 2 million copies called Eat That Frog, Brian Tracy, sure, and yeah, Brian and I were partners for five years, and it's all about get real. So one of the things that I focused on with clients, and I just did a workshop yesterday for the Sheriff's Department in San Diego, California, and it's about illuminating their reputation. And that's building your brand. I teach you're either in brand integrity and living your brand or not, and that's what I call brand slaughter in the first degree, brand slaughter. You put people in jail for manslaughter but, companies allow people to kill their brands and get away with it. So I wrote a book called preventing brand slaughter, and then I wrote another book called the illuminated brand, which is a training program, is the greatest trading program I've ever developed. And I've been in this field for a couple of weeks now, and then I just did that for a client, a billion dollar client in Cancun a couple of weeks ago. And that's all about living into how you want to be described. So if Lesley Logan wants to be described as boom, boom, boom, boom, and boom, right then everything you do is either living into that and you're earning that. I call it an I.B.D. Intended Brand Descriptor. You're either living it and earning it, or you're not. And that's brand slaughter,Lesley Logan 16:54  Okay, this okay. I just had a client this morning, and she, usually I teach her on Tuesdays, but I was traveling, and so I said, hey, babe, I know you hate mornings, but if you want a session this week, it's got to be 8 a.m. that's all I got. And I'm only giving it to you because I don't normally like to work at that time, but it's for you. And she said, Yeah, I'll take it. I was so shocked. So I show up on Zoom, and she's like, well, I'm working on this thing. I'm a healthy person, that's what I'm telling myself. And if I'm a healthy person, a healthy person would work out at 8am they wouldn't skip their workout this week. They'd work out at 8am and so that's what it makes me think of. Like, I can't think of a like, I love what you described, because it's like, being it till you see it. It's like, how do I want to be described? How would I want to describe like, if it's the future and then, like, acting as if you're the person who has that description. What does that person do? What does that business do? What does that product do? What is like? What does that day look like? I'm obsessed. I love that. David Corbin 17:43  You got it. You know, you walk into the ladies room to wash your hands, right? And there's someone in the stall, invariably, with their cell phone, and they're talking they don't know you're there. Well, what if they were talking about you? What do you want them to hear them say about you. So what I teach is you make a list of your intended brand descriptors. That's the first part. Then you do an A.B.I. an Audit of Brand Integrity. So down here you got the lit, and there's a TV show they did on me on this. And I can give you the link if you all want to see it. So here's a list of descriptive adjectives. I call them intended brand descriptors. Over here are your touch points, customers, prospects, coworkers, vendors, whatever, and now you do an inventory. Say, here's the word I want to be described by this here, am I in brand integrity? Yay. Or, oh, shit, am I in brand slaughter? Now, once you find those areas of brand slaughter, do the next step. We call them S.B.I.s, Strategic Brand Initiatives, what can I do to close the gap? All of that when you do that on a regular basis, equals M.B.V. and that's Massive Brand Value. So I'm doing this with this training program with Fortune 500 companies. I'm doing it with smaller companies, and it's all about I.B.D. times A.B.I. and S.B.I. is M.B.V. What are your intended brand descriptors? Then you do an audit of brand integrity, Then you say, okay, here's the areas where I'm great. Pat yourself on the back. Here's the areas where I'm committing brand slaughter, you have strategic brand initiatives to close it. Boom. Now it's a no whining zone, baby.Lesley Logan 19:34  Oh, my God, I really do love this. I think this is really a lot of fun, because you can do this about anything, like anyone listening. If you're like, dating, and you keep attracting someone you don't really want to be with, it's like, you could literally go, okay, well, let's take a look at the profile, or let's take a look at, like, what I'm saying on a date. You can like, all these things. I have a girlfriend who, whenever she goes on a date, she actually has, like, a scale that she rates them and then herself on. She's like, how am I acting in on this date with this person. So you could do the same thing of, like, how you want to show up and who you want to be with, and who your friends are, and all the things. And you could figure out, like, oh, this, this right here. This is where I'm creating brand slaughter. This is where I'm I think it's fabulous. It's also it's something you could do throughout your career or life, or, I mean, like, you can do it and then you can go back and do it, like, each quarter or each year, because as you grow it's, you know, I read a book called I read a book called the middle, but I didn't finish it, and I think that's hilarious, but at the got to the middle, and I was like, I think I got the point. But you it talks about, like, how all businesses go up and down, up and down, up and down, like a graph. But ideally it's always just going up, like the stock market goes up and down, up and down. But if you look at big picture, it's always going up. So, you know, so I think, like, we can get so caught up in the down, and then we can flounder there for so long that we don't realize we came from a really big up, and we can learn from that and bounce back. And, you know, there's another day to try it out again. This is so fun, okay, so, but hold on, you have a lot of acronyms. I'm not dyslexic, but I am A.D.H.D.David Corbin 21:04  Me too. That's my theme song, A, B, C, D, A, D, D. That's my theme song.Lesley Logan 21:12  So how, like, how do you how do you keep this all like, where do you is it all in your head? Do you organize? You journal? Like, what's your way of keeping all these ideas in one amazing place.David Corbin 21:23  No, I've been I am a gifted man. See, the big dude gave me this incredible brain and this magnificent heart, and the highway between the two is wide open. So I can keep it here. I don't journal. I meditate, I do something else called meditration, which I developed, which is, yeah, you know, you're not supposed to think when you're meditating. But when you, well, I teach meditration, meditration where you sit down with a piece of paper, you put the issue or the question on top, then you put yourself in a meditative state after you set your iPhone or whatever, to 22 minutes, and while the questions on the top 22 minutes, pencil or pen on paper, and you dwell upon that question, and you don't open your eyes, but you write with your eyes closed, and you let the unconscious confidence come through, and the universal conscious confidence come through, and you write some good shit down there. Now, at first, it kind of like you read it as like don't eat frogs. What is that? Because you can't read your handwriting. Eventually, you allow the download to come through. No one is smarter. Like, it's smarter than chatGPT y'all, no shit, it's smarter than even chatGPT. You write it down and you tap in. You know, prayer is when you're talking out there, but meditation is when you're listening. You listen in meditation. You know, like our emotions scream at us, and our thoughts yell at us, but our intuition whispers to slow down meditration, take it all in. It's freaking awesome, because the answer to every, everything you got, every WTF has within it an OMG and end up LOL, right, right. Are you with me? Lesley Logan 23:26  Yeah, I'm with you. I love it. I know all these Okay. David Corbin 23:29  So, like, I wrote two books called From WTF to OMG, with a Little LOL: Unpacking Life's Hidden Lessons. The first one hit number one on Wall Street Journal, the second one hit number two behind Prince Harry. Yo. I don't know what Prince Harry? How does Prince Harry come in front of King David? But anyway, it's because everyone knows at a certain level, when you're in a when you're in trauma or drama, that's usually a gift in there, not all of the time. I mean, don't tell me. Like, you know, somebody who gets run down in New Orleans by a car or a toddler gets shot in a freaking daycare center. Don't tell me there's a lesson in there. No, not all of it.Lesley Logan 24:13  Not all, I agree. David Corbin 24:14  But most of our lives there's a pony in that pile of poop, you know? And so if you assume there's an OMG built into the WTF, you close the curve of drama, trauma and pain and misery, and just start looking, and then you get it, and you're like, yo, that's fantastic. So yeah, so I look for that sort of stuff. So there's meditration, but there's something I gotta tell you, are you ready for this? Lesley Logan 24:45  I can't wait. David Corbin 24:46  I am proud of this. So I got permission from the TED organization to hand out L.S.D. it to my audience,Lesley Logan 24:55  The real stuff. Oh, this is the fake stuff. This is the fake one. Yeah. Okay. Well, because the audience is so big. You're not going to buy L.S.D. for everybody.David Corbin 25:01  Even the, no, I'm not. I'm not that generous. But even even the fake stuff, I had to get permission. So what I did was I said, could you imagine, first of all, I talked about being backstage at Woodstock. And I said, you know, 50 years I saved all this L.S.D. and I got one for all of you. So, you know, I'm like, Oprah, one for you, one for you, one for you. And I said, so when I count to three, you're going to pick it up, toss it in the air, catch it in your mouth, and go, whoa, dude, I'm tripping. So they did that, right? Boom, boom, boom, 500 but whoa, dude, I'm tripping. I said, cool, now that you're tripping, and here's the point, Lesley, now that you're tripping, you could ask your business two questions, and because you're tripping, you could hear the business answer you in its voice. And here's the two questions, and this is what I would want everyone to write down. Number one is, your business. What do you need me to do? And then you write down a list of the core job functions, right? So your trip? So you write down the core. You got one list of core job functions. Then you say, your business. Who do you need me to be? And you write down the qualities and characteristics. Now you got two lists. Now, because you're tripping, you get naked, right? But, but, but not naked of clothing. That's the easy part. Now you get naked of ego, and you rate yourself on both lists on a scale of one to 10. 10 is chaching mastery. You could bring it to that business right now. The business is asking for it. You say, I got you. That's 10. One is you suck. Where you're a five, six or seven, you close the gaps. Same thing on the other list, qualities and characteristics. Good listener, right? Where you're a 10, great, but where you're a three, close the gaps. It's like those S.B.I. is the Strategic Brand Initiatives. It's all about get freaking real. So they're tripping. They have a conversation with their business. They get naked. They see where they need to close the gaps. When you do that, anyone who's listening to this, when you do that, you can no longer complain about market conditions and competition and this. And I don't have enough capital, and I'm not this enough. Bullshit. You take control of that and close those gaps. And as you do, you increase your competence, which then brings up your confidence, which then brings up your competence again. And you're and you go on up the eensy beensy spider, but not up the water spout. Up the spout to prosperity and fulfillment. Boom. When I teach that, and people come back and say, I did that. Had it worked, had it worked, it's a game changer, because now you're taking responsibility. You could do it for your health. Hey, body, what you what do you need from me? Make a list. Yeah, rate yourself on your ability to bring that. Close the gaps. Bring your gift, your body, your magnificent body developed. I mean, it's amazing. And keep it in optimal condition by putting natural foods in, hydrating with quality water, getting the right movement, then it's like life is easy. People say, David, you're 72 and you play pickleball every day and you play tennis, yeah. God made an incredible body. God made unbelievable food. I put God's food into God's body. Boom. No GMO shit. No chemicals, no process, no fluoride in water, no fluoride in toothpaste. You know, I cleanse my liver and my kidney everyday with homeopathy, I chelate heavy metals out of my body with ACC Nano. Take responsibility. Life is good, baby.Lesley Logan 29:20  I love how you attribute to business and also to our health, because I think it's really important. And I just want to, like, highlight a couple things. I didn't know I was doing meditration, but I was doing, like, like a version of the morning pages, right? So morning, like, my therapist was like, I want you to journal. And then I was like, well, I'm a recovering perfectionist. So a week later, I was like, what am I supposed to journal? Like, how do I journal? Not really even understanding which, I have the journals I got pens. I can't read my own handwriting. So, like, what are we doing here? She's like, okay, how would you just do morning pages? Just write for three pages and whatever comes out. And I found within a couple of days, like, the thing that was bothering me or the thing that I feared would like, it would come on the page, and then by the end, I would understand, why was I afraid? What was I going to do? All these different things? And so I can't agree more, like I don't. I think most of our listeners, like, when they hear meditation is the thing they need to do, they're like, I'm sorry. We're out. Because, like, when you have ADD or ADHD, good luck removing the thought from your brain, but giving someone something to think, like, actually do and close their eyes and let it come out. I do, I do see how that could be really amazing. Because I can see, like, first of all, I can get angry because I like, I like to get angry at the thing. I got to do a little blame game that I got blame myself. Then I got to keep going. It's like, actually, it's not me, it's not them. It's this thing right here that I've been avoiding. And we can stop avoiding it, or we could do the thing. So I love that. The other thing I love is, like, I love those questions you asked because I think, I do think inside you're correct, that we do have the answers. We don't need chatGPT to tell us. I mean, you can use that. I have friends who love it, and we have a bot of me. But like, you can also just ask yourself, like, what do I need right now? And half the time when I ask myself that, when I'm frustrated, I'm like, I need something that's like, drink some water. Like, just go drink some water. Go sit outside. Go pet your dog. Like, go do something that brings you present. Because one of the things that I like, really obsessed about with you, and I'm really trying to figure out how we even know each other. I'm like, saying, how'd this man end up on my podcast? I love him. He's so great. Where'd we come from? Yeah, no, I can see that from the application. I think it might have been my husband, so maybe, but we'll figure that out offline. But what I'm loving is you are so passionate, and that is, like, contagious, of course, in all the best ways, but you have so much kindness and grace for all situations like you're you've talked about your heart a few times, but like, what I'm seeing is like you approach everything with, like, it's a problem to be solved, but not from a place of like, punishment or shame or judgment, but just observation and then taking some time to to go what would what can I give myself? What can I do this? How can I learn more here? And what it allows is all of us to be in process. None of us have to be perfect at this. Like you're always, like you said, you get the competence, you get the confidence, and then you guess what? You get more competence, which means you get more confidence. So we're always going to be on this mountain with no peak, but not in a way that's like a slog, in a way that is like high, like a good high.David Corbin 32:19  Yeah, you're a natural illuminator? No, you are when, when you write and then you see it, you see what happens is, is we usually keep problems on. We sweep it under the carpet. Well, I can tell you that, like mushrooms, they multiply in the dark, right when you take it out, daylight is the best disinfectant. And so you take it out and you illuminate. You look at it. It's not as bad as when you you use so much energy to energy to repress it and keep it down in there and stuff. Just freaking look at it, and it like a vampire, something that evaporates just in daylight and stuff. So you're already doing in a way that I call it different you, but who cares? We get to the same place. What is your objective? What is my objective? I could tell you mine is happiness, love, joy, equipoise, health, fulfillment, like I just trademark something. You know they have KPIs. Keep, bullshit, because that's all left brain analytic perfection. Make it KFIs, Key Fulfillment Indicators, everybody, customers, you your employees, your employees' family, they all need to be fulfilled. So you're looking at these metrics to make everyone and everything fulfilled. That is a more feminine energy into business, and I'm all about that. The feminization of energy in this planet is time, and we're seeing it, we're seeing it, we're feeling it. So groups like Heart Math and the like, are testing and measuring the our brain emits x. Our heart image emits, like, 18,000 x it's unbelievable. It's all measured and shit. The work by my friend Joe Dispenza, in terms of of meditation and what's happening in there and brain waves. Oh, my God, he's having a seizure. No, they're down in this theta and that where you can see anything and every is like doing an Ibogaine trip, you know, or Ayahuasca, to a degree, but more Ibogaine, or 5-MeO-DMT, and like, you're expanding how you can see things and shit. It's really cool. So, yeah, one of you and I, one of us is redundant. The world doesn't need both of us because we both kind of think of the same. Lesley Logan 34:44  Can we, I've, I feel like, I feel like I need to find you in New York and we need to hang out because you like, I don't know, I want to be around your energy more. This is so fun. But also I, I want to highlight you guys. You have to, like, Look at this man on YouTube, on the videos, because you're the same age as my dad. And I think my dad's pretty bad ass for a 72 year old who, like, you know, had to do a post office game after the military and, like, got forced out of like, all all the life things that happened to him, and he can deadlift like, 300 pounds, like, the man is strong. But what I am obsessed with is your your recall, the way you are sharing these stories and that you're not stopping like, that is something that my 72 year old father does not have, and I can tell it's, one, it's all the ways that you're treating yourself. And two, it's like you're a constant learner, and you're and you're like, you're, you're going back to we talked about the beginning. You're like, facing it, following it, fixing it, like, because you're on that process all the time. It's, it's really cool to see, like, your evolution. I mean, it's just, I am very amazed and very impressed, and like, want to eat what you're eating, because I want to be, I want to be you at 72.David Corbin 35:53  M, my bride, Ann, and I wrote a book. It's 419 pages. It's called Resanity: Truths About Food, Pharma and Healthy Living in an Insane World. Now, we were told not to publish it because we outed a lot of industries, and they said, if you publish that book, you better have somebody start your car in the morning, because they ain't going to be happy. So, so we didn't have to publish it, but just the research, to your point, the stuff that I study, learn and teach is the stuff that I want to study learn and teach, you see, and it's a and it's an iterative process and stuff. So when I study health, I do health like I don't have to publish that book I learned all about chelation and homeopathy and to stay away from certain drugs and certain jabs and and foods, and don't listen to this bullshit and listen to that bullshit and muscle test and applied kinesiology, and we live it. So my wife and I just kicked ass to a lot younger guys on the pickleball court, and they're like, this sucks. I go, yeah, it sucks being you, man. No, I live in San Diego.Lesley Logan 37:07  I'm in Las Vegas. We're so close.David Corbin 37:10  Yeah, yeah, I know. In fact, I go to Vegas because I have a client who's an artist in residence at Mandalay Bay, at the House of Blues, and his name is Carlos Santana.Lesley Logan 37:20  Well, there you have it.David Corbin 37:21  Do you know who Carlos is? Lesley Logan 37:23  Of course, I do. I'm, my husband's a bass player and like, and he used to have a drum radio show, and I think they were getting Carlos and his drummer on. And if I'm wrong, Brad will just pretend like I was right, but I'm pretty, of course, I know Carlos Santana. Are you kidding?David Corbin 37:40  There's me and Carlos right there. Carlos' drummer is Cindy Blackman Santana. She was Lenny Kravitz's drummer. Carlos says, I love drummers so much I married mine. So Carlos' drummer is Cindy. And then they have a timpani guy, and then a congadera. The show. If you haven't seen the show.Lesley Logan 38:01  I gotta go. I mean, it's down the street from my house. David Corbin 38:05  It's, it's, it's a sick experience. And you hit me up and I'll see if I can, I sit in Carlos' seats, which doesn't suck. It's such an intimate environment, yeah, that even if you get standing room only. You're like, 10 feet away from a legend, and this, he's an enlightened being. Lesley Logan 38:26  I actually got to go to the that venue because I was, I thought I was getting tickets for the Counting Crows, but I got tickets to the Black Crows. My friends invited me, and I'm there and going. I don't know any of these songs. I have no idea who am I even seeing. And I was like, literally googling. I'm like, oh, this is a very famous band that I know nothing about.David Corbin 38:42  Girlfriend, dig this. So, so they were in town in San Diego. I was supposed to be in Vietnam. My trip Vietnam got canceled, so I'm in San Diego. So okay, so I go see them. And so the Counting Crows and Santana, I didn't know who Counting Crows was.Lesley Logan 38:58  So you actually saw the Counting Crows, and I saw the Black Crows, or you?David Corbin 39:01  I saw Counting Crows. So now, dig this, dig this. So now I'm sitting there with my wife, and my sister in law was in from and so we're there, and I'm actually enjoying Counting Crows. They're really good. That lead singer is like a theatrical performer, he's unbelievable. Right while I'm digging the music, I get the text, can you come backstage now? I'm like, torn between two lovers. I'm digging this music, but who doesn't want to go backstage and hang. Lesley Logan 39:32  With Carlos Santana? David Corbin 39:34  Kind of like, yeah, my life doesn't suck (inaudible) like, my life doesn't say, Okay, thank you. Thank you.Lesley Logan 39:42  Do you think like I feel like we fall into things? So I got to see and our listeners like, what are you talking about? Don't worry, because we'll have Be It Actions in a second. But for my birthday, I had a few friends come out for, like, a girls trip here in Vegas, and I didn't really make a lot of plans. And one of the girls goes, hey, it was, like, six o'clock and we were about to go to a dinner reservation. She's like, hey, do you want to go see The Eagles at The Sphere? And I was like, yeah, I'll go to The Eagles at The Sphere. Like, why not? Just like, yeah, we, we can get these. My friend has two, has box seats. And I was like, okay, even better, you guys. I was in the CEO of The Spheres box seats. I saw The Eagles live at The Sphere, which is like, the venue. My girlfriend goes, I think Bono is right next to us. And I looked over, I was like, No, that's Ringo Starr, babe. People have got to be looking like, who are these two girls at The Eagles concert in a box of The Spear? Because we're definitely not their age group. But I, I know The Eagles I grew up on oldie, like, I'm not, people would be so upset if I called oldies, but that's what I apparently, raised me on that so I was, I was having the best time of my life. Okay, we can share more stories. And obviously you need to have and need to have a hangout session when you're here in Vegas, or I'm gonna come to San Diego this summer, but gonna take a brief break, kinda where people can follow you, find you, stan you, all those things. All right, David, where do you hang out? Where can people read all of your books, like just get obsessed with you in the best way? David Corbin 41:10  Yeah. So here's the deal, my name, my handle. My name is David Corbin. If you can't find me on Google, schmoogle, chat, whatever, then forget about it. So, you know, David, and my email is david@davidcorbin.com and I answer every email, not immediately, but I, not my assistant. And I also have a, you know, I have a chat. I have a robo Dave. I have an AI Dave, which is kind of cool, but I answer any and all emails, because if somebody gives a shit enough to reach out, and if I vibe with them, then I'm going to answer. So there's that. So it's david@davidcorbin.com and I have another name, which is because I mentor some rap stars. So I'm known as everybody calls me Uncle Dave, because, like oldies, I am a freaking oldie. That's all good. I don't care. So, so they said, if you're going to be in this field, we got to give you a handle. Everybody calls your Uncle Dave. So Master P said, your name is Uncle D, U-N-K-A dash d. So I said, yo. And if you doubt if you doubt me, you better out me. He goes, oh yeah, you Uncle D. Lesley Logan 41:10  Oh my gosh, I'm obsessed. David Corbin 42:07  I'm Uncle D, so find me at Uncle D, and the books are all over Amazon. But you know, the most important thing is you don't need me. You need you. Don't go to YouTube. Kill the tube. Tune into the you. Tune into the you. You know a lot more than you give yourself credit for. I'm talking to most people you know a lot more than give self credit towards. So stop dissing yourself. Step into your greatness. You got greatness in you. Don't let anybody kid you. I'm known as the mentor to mentors. People pay me a lot of money to mentor them. Many of the people, I tell them, Okay, you're done. You I see that you got you. You don't need me. So boom mic drop. Lesley Logan 43:08  I can't even think of a better Be It Action Items to end this episode with Uncle Dave. Thank you for thank you for this. I honestly, I'm so excited. However, whomever, whatever got you on this schedule today, you've made mine, and I can't wait to connect with you again. You guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life. We want to know. Tag Dave, tag the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. In fact, if you share it with bunch of your friends, guess what? You all start doing competence, and then confidence, and then competence and confidence and rising together, and you don't have those crazy people in your life who bring you down. So thank you so much, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 43:44  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Hey chumps, its just me (Kyle) this week. But don't worry I got a good 30 mins of random stuff to talk about this week! so kick back relax and enjoy? This weeks episode of OPC!

What if scheduling joy was just as important as your to-do list? In this episode, Lesley Logan shares five intentional days to reset your life each month, a powerful community win from Tami-Adrian George on launching her coaching program, and a reminder that even organizing a closet can be a bold act of self-love. Because every little win means you're showing up and that's worth celebrating.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Five intentional self-care days to add to your monthly calendar.Celebrating imperfect but meaningful progress in your business.Why sharing your new venture builds support and alignment.Finding value in everyday wins like organizing your closet.The ripple effect of sharing wins and giving yourself credit.Episode References/Links:Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions5 Non-Negotiable Days - https://www.instagram.com/p/DKIAyz6ym8R/Tami-Adrian George's Website - https://www.tagpilates.com If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It, babe. Happy Friday. How are you? What's going on? I'm still on the road as you're listening to this, so I recorded early, and so these are some of the wins that I did before I left for tour. But I actually think that it's a lot of fun and still worth listening to because same reason, I love to share your win. Sometimes they're a month or so after you've sent them in, and then you get to hear them go, oh my God, I did do that. And they get to re-celebrate this amazing thing that you did. So I'm going to re-celebrate what I did, in my view, but first, just so you know, you can actually send your wins. An easier way, go to beitpod.com/questions, I know that sounds weird, but you can put your question or win it or both, right, we answer your questions on the Thursday episode. We share your wins on the Friday episode. But first we share something that inspired me, and I thought you guys needed to hear about this. Lesley Logan 1:35  Okay, so it says five non-negotiable days you should schedule every month. All right, so this, I'll put the link in the show notes so you can actually see it for yourself. But it said there's five days that you have in here each month, right? So that would be 12 times a year, ideally. So you need to Get It Together Day that's a day to clear the clutter, physically, mentally and digitally. This can be paying your bills, organizing your inbox, or doing meal prep. It's boring, but it's a kind of maintenance that keeps life from spiraling out of control. I couldn't agree more. I love this Get It Together Day so it's already being scheduled in to the life that we live. It's kind of like, oh, let's pick a Saturday or a Sunday to, like, declutter a closet, right? So then we have Unplugged Day. So you need a day, it's 24 hours where you avoid technology as much as possible. So put down your phone and go for a hike, spend time with people or person, or read a book. The world will fall apart while you're offline, but your mental health might improve. I often use unplug days on planes because it's a little easier. But I also do play a video game. So, you know, find a day or half day or six hours where it's like, I'm not going to be like, using my technology, all right, be safe, but also figure like, get creative, right? Hey, the next day, Be a Tourist Day. Be a tourist in your own city day. How cool. When was the last time you explored your city like it wasn't just where you lived? There's a new location or try a restaurant you've never been to? Routine makes time fly, but exploration slows it down. See the world around you with fresh eyes. I couldn't agree more. We have been trying out new bars and new restaurants, and as I literally record this, I have a text message from a friend where I'm supposed to re-find a restaurant because I booked us a reservation and the restaurant canceled it, and as rude as they always are, they didn't tell us why. So now we're trying to figure out a new place to eat, and it's like, oh well, I'll just be a tourist that day. That sounds fun to me. Okay. Reconnection Day. Life gets busy, but relationships are what make it meaningful. Take at least one day per month to reconnect with people who matter, no agenda, no hidden motive, just real human connection. I mean, you can probably, like, combine some days, right? You have Reconnection Day with an unplugged day. Pick some friends, go for a hike, right? You could be a tourist too. Oh, my God, all these different things you could do. So if you like. I'm too busy for these days. Well, get creative. You know, like the world is what you see. I'm just gonna be really honest with you, and I think this is the last one, Mini Adventure Day. You don't need a plane ticket to have an adventure. Do something small that's new but feels exciting. Take a new route home, try a new class, or visit a museum, break your routine and make your days more story-worthy. So I'm just truly obsessed with this. I'm actually keeping this safe for myself. Just make sure that I'm finding ways to do these things in my busy calendar. You're gonna hear in the wins this month, like where I've actually done these things before I saw this, and I'm like, oh, I really love those things and look at me. I had a Reconnection Day. So anyways, I hope this inspires you. Lesley Logan 4:24  Now, let's do a win of yours. So this one was sent in from Tami-Adrian George. She actually has an episode coming up. She is a OPC teacher and an Agency member, and we have a really fun program coming out with her. So if your Pilates instructor wants to teach in people's homes, we've got something. So this one was from a little bit ago, but I'm sharing it now, and she says new website is done mostly just a few annoying bits to clean up, but messy action is my traction tag pilates.com. Spent a week getting the best hugs from college boy being home for spring break. Soft rollout for my biz. Coaching, have skill, will travel. The method is going well. There isn't much out there exclusively for traveling to instructors. And I want to take a quick moment in the sessions of my regulars to let them know that although they be seeing me more on my feet about coaching, I'm still 100% committed to their customized programs. I ask them to be sure to let me know early about their travel vacation plans so we can book their virtual sessions that will often fall a bit outside of the normal schedule with time zone changes, I expected a bit of pushback, and got none, just love and support. Made a new IG teacher friend who's in Thailand named Tick when I DM-ed him to thank him for following and asked how he found me, he sent a picture of LL's flashcards. That's so cool. Oh my God, so fun. So I love all these different little wins in here. I just wanna break them down, because you guys, she is celebrating a website that's mostly done, right, like oftentimes we wait to celebrate until everything is perfectly tied up in a boat that is not gonna happen. I'm literally looking at a pile of coats that I move from one closet to what's gonna be the next closet, and I'm still celebrating that I got them from one closet, right? We have to give ourselves permission to be in process and in progress. I also love that she is celebrating like, the little moments with her son being home, like it's really sometimes we want more of other people's time. We don't always get it. So when you celebrate the time you do have, it does make it feel so special. And then she is working on a new program, and I love that she is sharing that with people who it doesn't even apply to, so that they know what's going on and that she's still committed to them. Because oftentimes we're like, oh, let me make this precious. Let me hold on to this thing that I'm doing and not tell anyone about it, because I don't want them to know because in case it fails. No, tell people about it. Tell why they're doing it, tell how they're part of it, because you have no idea how they might know. Plus, universe responds to us talking about the things we're doing. So love all these wins. And also, if you are in business and you're listening to this, if you do get new followers, it's really important to sometimes find out how they found you, because it lets you know where you should be spending your time. So, way to go. I love that they have my flashcards in Thailand. Thanks for letting me know, Tami. Lesley Logan 7:04  All right, a win of mine. So I'll go with this one. I cleaned out a closet, and when I, right, like we were just talking about those coats. So we have this closet that's by the front door. I'm sure we, like everyone has closets they're by the front door. Anyways, this closet was like the dog closet, plus the coat closet, plus the shoe closet, plus my weight vest closet, and it's just kind of like it's too small for how many things it's supposed to hold. And in the wintertime, we need our big coats to be in there, and that is no longer something we need in there. So I pulled all the big coats out because we're not going to need until October, November. Anyways, and so they didn't quite make it into the podcast room closet, where all the other coats are, because we need to make room. We need to make space. And so I talked to Brad about this. I said, hey, before we leave for tour, we have to go through this closet. Okay? Because there's now this closet is a coat closet, slash the gift closet, slash your music equipment closet. So can we, like do that one of the weekends, and I'm sharing this with you. We're in the process of this win being another win, so we've done one win. The coat closet by the front door, easy to use, tons of space. Can't even believe it, like, so much room. We also donated a bunch of dog stuff to this shelter that takes care of homeless people's dogs. We had a bunch of toys that Bayon doesn't like, and since Gaia and August have passed, like we have all this extra stuff. We have one dog now, and we used to have three, so we have a lot of extra stuff. So we started to donate a ton of dog stuff that was used and gently used to another charity. So you can, you can find all with all the wins I'm having out of cleaning one closet out and, no, it's not done, the project's not done. But you know what? I can't wait in my life for things to be done before I celebrate. Life would be way too hard. There's way too much stuff going on. I just want to remind you of that each and every week, my loves, you're doing a really great job, and nothing is ever going to be perfectly done. Ever. You're going to realize, oh, like, the Reformer flashcards have gone through like three or four reprints. We've sold out, reprinted, sold out, reprinted. And on the third reprint, we discovered that there's a misspelled word no one has ever told us about, right? So here I thought we're done with that, and we're not. We have to reprint it. We'll wait till the next print. We'll fix that one word. But I just want to give you permission to celebrate that you pulled a coat from one closet and you got it into the room where it's supposed to go. Congratulations, right? Lesley Logan 9:24  So, send your wins in and share this with a person who needs to, needs inspiration that good things do happen to good people who put themselves out there and put themselves in process. They really, really, really do. And I do hope that I get to see you in person at some point, either on our summer tour, our upcoming winter tour in the U.K. next month, on our retreat, like, let's spend some time together because I love that the podcasts and our platforms allow us to reach people all around the world, but I truly love getting to meet you in person and hearing more about what you need and how we could support you. Helps us pick up the guests for this podcast. It helps us design classes on OPC. It's all part of it, right? So we want to meet you. So definitely reach out for information on any of the in-person events that we're doing, and send your wins or your questions or both to beitpod.com/questions. Thank you so much and have an amazing day. Oh, you know what to do, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 10:17  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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In this reflective episode, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell dive into the most powerful lessons from the interview with Tami-Adrian George, founder of T.A.G Pilates & More and creator of the HAVE SKILLS, WILL TRAVEL Method. Together unpack how to stop comparing and start honoring your own pace. Learn why alignment matters more than achievement and how to redefine success on your terms.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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We missed the genetic opportunity to do that, or we missed out on the height to do whatever, like the money, the time, whatever it is. And really it's like, you know, something that we're really proud of at even OPC. And one of the reasons why we love Tami and why she loves OPC is like, she wants you to measure yourself against yourself. Lesley Logan 0:22  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:05  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the intentional convo I have with Tami-Adrian George in our last episode. If you haven't listened to that one, you absolutely should, especially if you are a Pilates instructor, absolutely should do it. Brad Crowell 1:20  I mean, there's definitely a jaw-dropping moment in there where you're like, what did you do? That's amazing. Lesley Logan 1:26  Oh, and also, like, anyone who, like, thinks, oh gosh, I'm like, not quite my life has not been linear. I'm not qualified for anything like this girl has had a journey, yeah. Are you talking about when they they, yeah, yeah, like that. Brad Crowell 1:42  Yeah, okay, we should definitely cut that from it, because you should go back and watch that. So bleep out we'll bleep it out. We'll bleep out what Lesley just said. Lesley Logan 1:51  Yeah, that's even more fun. I love when pods do that, because you're like, who is it? What did they say? Now I have to go listen. Anyways, go back and listen and then come back and listen to this, or listen all the way through, get the cliff notes and then go listen to that one. Lesley Logan 2:04  Okay, today is July 31st and it's National Mutt Day. Dogs are special, and there're oodles of national international holidays to prove it, oodles of them. But unlike most of our doggy days, national mutt day on July 31st focus on the mixed breed dogs who sometimes get overlooked. This holiday inspires people to learn more about adopting one. National Mutt Day also brings attention to many great mixed breed dogs in need of homes. In fact, they benefit from the spotlight so much that we celebrate mixed breed dogs, not just once, but twice a year, on both July 31st and December 2nd. Join us and celebrate all mutts and mixed breed dogs that make our lives so great. So mark your calendar for December 2nd because we probably won't do this again unless we forgot we did it already. And I don't know what the second is, maybe it's not Thursday. But also, I highly recommend a mutt. They have less issues, like, way less like all that stuff.Brad Crowell 2:55  They, like health issues, you mean, usually, yeah. In fact, all three of our dogs have been mixed breed. Yeah. You know, we haven't gotten like a purebred but, but you know, generally speaking, if you're gonna pick up a dog from the pound, it's gonna be a mixed breed most likely.Lesley Logan 3:13  Brad, you are not following the feeds of my dog adoptions in this town. You how many Frenchies are available at a pound? Yes, Frenchies, Frenchies, and English Bulldogs. I thought those were thousands of dollars. I mean, like and beautiful huskies and beautiful German Shepherds. I will say there, there's a shepherd pit mix is like, the cutest thing I've ever seen, also a big dog. But, the reason I chose this is, if you haven't checked in with your local dog charities in town, you really should they are not doing well. They are overcrowded. They're having a lot of problems that shelters that used to be no kill shelters are actually becoming kill shelters because they have too many dogs. And if you're like Lesley, my life is crazy. I travel so much. Great. Foster. Get a dog for the two weeks you're in town and give it back. In fact, in this, where we are, like, they're always looking for fosters. And like, the fosters could be two weeks long, it could be or until they're adopted. So you could have this dog until it's adopted, and they pay for all the medical bills. They like, there's this one dog, eight month old puppy, so cute, she's so cute. She's got skin issues. And they're like, We will cover all of medication. You just have to apply it and give her a home. That's all so, you know, like, not all fosters are fails, and you could be doing a really great thing, but literally, one of the shelters in town took in 400 dogs and cats in one week. Brad Crowell 4:35  What? Lesley Logan 4:36  I know we haven't before, we're recording this, before the fourth. It wasn't even the fourth. So they actually were able to adopt. They did a no fee adoption weekend, and they adopted 120 animals. Because, like, they, like, just need to get these things, these animals adopted. So I know it's hard. Like, apartments have rules and laws and all those things. It's really, really difficult. But like, figure out what you can do. Can you walk these dogs? Like, what can you do? Because they actually do make your like, if you think the world is falling in and it kind of is, I'm not gonna lie, really, really struggling right now, but there's something nice about hugging a dog. Yeah, I can't, I can't attest for a cat, so I don't know. Maybe they're great too, or a rabbit, but like a dog, like they're just really, there's unconditional love there. There really is. So you, it really helps you. And we go for walks with our dog in the middle of the day, because we're like, this is really overwhelming. And we go walk the dog, and you're like, oh, it's a good day. Look how beautiful the day is. So anyways, yeah, do that today. Lesley Logan 5:30  Okay, we're currently on tour with our dog. We are in Northern California, and the tour goes to August 17th, so you actually still have time to join us, and there's still time to get your virtual tickets to the Calgary event. So if you go to opc.me/tour, you can see the rest of the lineup. I know we have coming up, Eureka, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, Kamloops, Calgary, then it's McCall, Idaho, Salt Lake City, Utah, and then Las Vegas. So still good, half of this tour is available, and Calgary is the one if you're wanting the virtual tickets, limited space on those, so just go to opc.me/tour, and then we're home for a couple weeks, and then we change the entire wardrobe we've been in to go to where it's not so warm. We're going to be in the UK. We have two events in the UK the time we're recording this. There's a couple spots left in Leeds. There's a few spots left in Essex, and Essex has opened up not only day passes, but single workshop options. If you just wanted to buy one workshop and see us like that is an option. You just have to go to opc.me/uk, and then Brad, then what? Brad Crowell 6:32  Then we're heading to Cambodia. Lesley Logan 6:34  Yeah. We come home for a couple weeks and we change the wardrobe again. So we go from summer to winter-ish, and then we go to the jungle.Brad Crowell 6:45  We go to humidity. Lesley Logan 6:47  Humidity. Oh, my God, my skin is dying for it. Brad Crowell 6:51  Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. We still have some room for Cambodia in October. It's there's definitely still time to come join us. We'd love to have you the this trip is gonna be really fun we're having two excursions after the retreat is over. One of them is to go see an elephant sanctuary, and the other is to go visit a waterfall that used to be the King's Waterfall. And these are two magical trips Lesley and I have had the chance to do before and. Lesley Logan 7:20  I really wonder how the king got up to this waterfall, because our experience is less than first. Brad Crowell 7:25  It takes like it's like an hour to drive up, up, like, there from the city and like, man getting up the hill. Like, now finally. Lesley Logan 7:34  They're trying, they're trying to pave it, but it's not. Brad Crowell 7:36  Yeah but when we first went up there, it was like 2017 or '18 or something like that and like it was literally just a slick, muddy road.Lesley Logan 7:45  I thought we got stuck in the mud. Brad Crowell 7:46  We did yes, and we had to get off the bus, just so the bus was light enough to get around the freaking corner, and then we had to run around the corner ourselves and hop back on. We were like, are we gonna make it up this hill? This is crazy. Today, it's not like that. Today, it's actually paved, not like, it's not beautifully paved, but there is paving. Lesley Logan 8:03  There's, okay, here's the thing, every time we go, I'm interested to see how far the paving has gone, because it, you know, we live in Vegas, and I'm going to tell you right now, I have wanted to film the construction cones that go up in this town, like, I just want to start filming them for you, because they make no sense, like when we had them at our street for three years. They we had cones on ours, three years. Some days you would be driving on the right side of the road, some days the left side of the road. Some days you think you're in the left turn lane, but really you're in the lane for the oncoming traffic, and then you are stuck because they can't go you can't go anywhere. They can't go anywhere. And now there's a new cone set up on our way to the gym. And we are just always watching people go in the wrong lane. A truck almost hit another car. Brad Crowell 8:48  Oh, yeah. It's the real thing. Lesley Logan 8:48  So, so, so when I talk about this construction situation in Cambodia, I want you to know like, I do not think we are better. In fact, they might be better because what they did is start at one end of the mountain and pave a little bit, and then stop because they ran out of money, and then, but only on one side. And then.Brad Crowell 9:08  When you say one side, you mean one side of the street. Lesley Logan 9:08  One side of the street. Brad Crowell 9:11  Yeah. So they didn't pave both sides of the street the same time. They paved the right side like, imagine that they paved the right side street and they painted it like, you know, the dotted line in the middle of your of the road. Imagine that that was the right lane they painted. And then they or they would pave, and then they would stop for 300 yards, then they would pave for 300 yards, then they would stop for 300 yards. Lesley Logan 9:32  Yes, so you're on pavement, off payment. Brad Crowell 9:34  Then on your way back, they did the opposite, exact opposite. So almost looks like a zipper, right, and like, you're not allowed to, like, cross between the two sides of the road, but in order for. Lesley Logan 9:44  Everyone does.Brad Crowell 9:45  Everyone does.Lesley Logan 9:46  And if you're on curves, and it's, so everyone is driving on.Brad Crowell 9:50  You can get stuck, because, like, it's actually raised up off the ground by like a solid foot. So if you're on the paved part on the wrong side of the road, you can. And someone comes at you. It's not like you guys can just get off the road like, so it's like this. Lesley Logan 10:04  Yes, so you're playing like chicken, or all the motos are doing. Brad Crowell 10:08  I mean, it's not like they're going fast so. Lesley Logan 10:10  No, you can't go fast. It's pretty steep. Anyways, it is. It is the most fun to adventure, you're totally safe. And then we go down to the waterfall and we have lunch, and it's just absolutely fabulous. So, so anyways, you got to come crowsnestretreats.com.Brad Crowell 10:23  Yeah, crowsnestretreats.com I heard that we have an audience question. Lesley Logan 10:28  We do. I sent it to you. I sent it to the whole family.Brad Crowell 10:33  Yes, you did. All right. This is from YouTube @janethangan7368 says, excellent question excellent one question. This was on your full body Pilates tower workout. Excellent. One question. I think you keep saying fast connection, F-A-S-T fast. I know you're referring to an activation of the hams and glutes, but are you actually saying fast or what are you saying there, and where does the term come from? Your cueing and your tips are outstanding. I just can't understand you. I added that last part she didn't say that.Lesley Logan 11:08  Oh, I was gonna say, I don't remember that part. I remember like, I remember thinking, wow, I'm gonna put a compliment in with a question. Look at that. So, so over on the YouTube channel, so that's youtube.com/@onlinepilatesclasses, we, couple years ago, did upload a few workouts, and this is a Tower workout. Yes, I'm on a Cadillac, but it's a Tower workout, and it's a booty workout, because people who want to help you with your YouTube telling you you have to do butt and abs workout. So anyways, I am saying Thass® connection. Brad Crowell 11:37  Spell it. Lesley Logan 11:39  I was like, Thass® T-H-A-S-S it's where your thigh meets your butt. And really what it is is it's like the muscles that surround the leg, minus the hip flexors. So, so many people in Pilates are over using their hip flexors. In fact, one of my dear friends did a whole three month air quotes around Pilates pro challenge because she didn't really go to an actual Pilates class. And I was like, oh no, Pilates-inspired is marketing tool. That's not it. But she was talking about how much her hip flexors were hurting her in all the classes. And I'm like, yes, that's because you're not using your hamstrings or glutes, your outer hips and inner thighs, and that's what the Thass® connection is. And so. So, Jane, with lots of letters and numbers. It is the area that is not including the hip flexor that helps your legs move from your center. And you can find it in all Pilates exercises. And it's, in fact, very helpful. And I teach a workshop on this. In fact, I teach it on several different stops on our tour, including the Calgary stop, which is a virtual stop. So you could all join us for the virtual Thass® workshop to really understand this connection. Where did it come from? I heard a yoga teacher say foodie, and I heard it and thought, and I was like, I don't, I say ass, so I'm gonna say Thass®. Now, do I think I invented this word? No, because I'm sure that anytime someone quotes me as the trademark owner of Thass®, there's people who come at me like, you don't own this word. And it's like, well, technically, I do. It doesn't mean you can't use it. You just can't make money on it because I trademarked it, but I was known for it. I've been teaching workshops and this connection for over 10 years. It's been something I've been on a journey with, with myself, and so I'm not going to say that I'm the founder of this word, because language has been around a lot longer than all of us on this planet. However, it is something that I really am passionate about. So I hope you join us, Jane, for the Calgary event on on virtual if you can't join us in person at one of the events where we're teaching it in real life on the tour. You can send your questions in at beitpod.com/questions, you can also send your wins in to the same link. So, beitpod.com/questions. You can also text us at 310-905-5534.Brad Crowell 13:49  Yep, yeah. But go to beitpod.com/questions because.Lesley Logan 13:52  (inaudible) number was like, 310, be it till you see, like, you know what I mean, just be it. Can we have a phone number like, just be it? Brad Crowell 14:01  Be It Pod B-E-I-T-P-O-D 7, maybe we can do that. Lesley Logan 14:06  Yeah, figure that out, team. Brad Crowell 14:08  Yeah, team.Lesley Logan 14:10  Oh, while we're doing this, I haven't shown you yet, and you're not gonna see it, because Meredith and I are doing it ourselves, but we're doing new art for the pod.Brad Crowell 14:17  Oh, I love it. Lesley Logan 14:19  Me too. Me too. Brad Crowell 14:20  I've been thinking about actually changing up. Lesley Logan 14:22  I want to change the music. Brad Crowell 14:24  Yeah, all, a lot of things, just changing it up.Lesley Logan 14:26  Because I, because, here's the thing, and you guys, please send in your send in your comments and your questions and your wins here. I like the music of our pod on 1.75 speed, but I don't like it at 1.0 speed. And so I want a faster song now, like, I like this podcast has grown and, you know, it's I want it to just be like, I don't know. I just, I don't even know. Like, Lindsay Sterling was who I like based it off of before. And of course, we still love her, and she did a great song with Jeffrow, our dear friend, but I guess like it, but faster, so maybe we can just make it faster. So. Brad Crowell 15:08  We can make it fast, faster. Lesley Logan 15:10  Faster, faster. Okay, we gotta talk about Adrian. Tami-Adrian, we are we are late. People are wondering what's going on and why you're clicking over there. Brad Crowell 15:21  All right, stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 15:20  All right now, let's talk about Tami-Adrian George. She is a former competitive dancer and actress turned powerhouse Pilates instructor and mobility coach. Her journey has included everything from Super Bowl halftime shows to on set acting and urgent care medical work and now a thriving mobile Pilates business in Los Angeles. She's the founder of T.A.G. Pilates & More and has been teaching for over 34 years, it's insane, blending classical and contemporary Pilates with functional fitness and rehab. She's also a featured instructor on OPC, bringing her deep expertise to clients and teachers around the world. And Tammi is just so awesome. Lesley Logan 15:59  She's so awesome. She comes to the house a couple times a year. We get to hang out with her when she films and everything and when, whenever, whenever, she reminds me how long she's been teaching. I'm like, oh, you're much, you've been around longer. But she doesn't look older like she has such. Brad Crowell 16:16  No, she's just fun and hip and cool. Lesley Logan 16:18  She's so fun. She's so hip. She's also, like, proof, she's walking proof that if you, like, put your mind to something, and you figure out the resources that are there, you can have it, you can do it. You know, like, she just really doesn't let like obstacles stop her. She's like, okay, that's an obstacle. Let me figure out another way around it so. Brad Crowell 16:34  You can do it. Put your Thass® into it. Lesley Logan 16:36  That's right. So she said, one of the things I loved that she said was, we all have blocks of what we think we cannot do. Let's not measure you against a 19 year old on the mat next to you. Let's measure you against you. And I really love this because, you know, we just came out of an eLevate weekend, and people were like, oh my God, she's just got a beautiful practice. Like, how am I going to teach that? I'm like, what if we looked for the strength in her practice rather than the beauty of the practice? Like we all doesn't matter how the person that they're talking about is the same age as them, actually it doesn't the age is not even a thing. It's that we always are comparing ourselves to others and what they can do and then seen as a thing that we can't do, that we like, missed out. We missed the genetic opportunity to do that, or we missed out on the height to do whatever, like, the money, the time, whatever it is. And really it's like, you know, something that we're really proud of like even at OPC. And one of the reasons why we love Tammy and why she loves OPC is like she wants you to measure yourself against yourself. I want, we want to measure yourself against yourself. So whether that's in Pilates or or your job career or whatever you're doing, how can you see other people's achievements as opportunities, like examples that opportunities exist, rather than, I'm too old for that now, or it's not my legs are too short for that now, or whatever it is, right?Brad Crowell 17:48  Yeah, it's, I mean, with Tami, she's, she's seen it all, she's seen it all, right? And I think that, especially in Los Angeles, where she came from, was career, her career in acting like, that's like, literally, everyone's comparing themselves to everyone. Oh, my God, right. And so it's so intense. Lesley Logan 18:08  And also, let me just like, because I had to do castings like, I'll just say they just like compare themselves to everyone. So when Tami is an actress, like, there might be one role for black women, right? But then also, just in general, when I went to a was asked to go to a casting for commercial. They're like, we want redheads hipsters. So you are you're in a line, yeah, and it's like, everyone's redhead and everyone's wearing flannel. So you, you, it's so easy to start comparing yourself to everyone else like you, because you're like, Oh, we're all here because they wanted a redhead who can wear a flannel. Like, we're all here for that, you know? So it's it. I get that, like life is easy to do that, especially in certain situations, but it actually just keeps you from experiencing, like what you can in this world. It really holds you back.Brad Crowell 18:56  Yeah, the I mean, the one thing, that, one thing that I really dug was she was talking about climbing the mountain. You like, you have to climb that mountain. Everyone has to climb the mountain. And as you like, what in order for you to see the bigger picture, you know, it often just takes learned experience, like lived experience. And she was talking about, you know, lifting to view to see everything when you climb, then you can enjoy that view. You do a little dance, and then you're going to climb a little higher, and you're going to see a whole new view, right? Because you're going to, you're just going to see the world as a different way as you're going along each time you climb and hold that level for just the moment, you see a little bit more. You see more possibilities, right? So you go after those new possibilities, and then you see things from a whole nother perspective, all again, you know, because we're, we're living and growing and changing and climbing, you know, and I love that I was thinking about my own life when she was telling that story. And, I mean, you know, it's just like the the wisdom of having lived a long life, the experience that you have, you know, I laugh at myself because of, you know who I was and how I thought 20 years ago, even 10 years ago, even five years ago, you know, it I see things differently now, you know, and I actually think, you know, it's amazing, because where I like, I think this is where I'm always amazed by people who are, you know, in that 20s and 30s younger than me. I mean, not necessarily, whatever age doesn't matter, but who are younger than me, but have that bigger view than I do, even, and that's amazing to see. Like, it's those are the kinds of people who attract other people to them, because their vision is huge, you know. Lesley Logan 20:49  Yeah, yeah, I agree. We also, she mentioned one other thing, like, she was talking about just like, the settings for experiences that you're going through, like, sometimes you're, like, in a group class and like, that's a different style than if you are getting a one-on-one. And she'll say, like, sometimes it just, like, the things you want just require someone, like, someone's eyes on what you want, like a one-on-one experience, so they can be tailored to you. And I think that that's such an important thing. Like, whether it's your Pilates practice or it's your business. Like, you know, I think it's, there's the there's so much free information out there. Like, of course you can, if with the right question, with the right question, you can probably find the right answer. But sometimes you just need someone to, like, look at it from an outside perspective and go, actually, like, yes, you could do that. But what if you do it this way and just have that helping hand? That's what she does for her clients when she goes to their homes. And that's what she does with teachers who are wanting to go into teachers homes. Like she can bring that perspective that's just more tailored.Brad Crowell 21:49  Yeah, bringing, like, bringing it back to what you were talking about before. You mean, yeah, like, you know when you're measuring yourself against you sometimes, you're having a one-on-one or having a coach, you know that that truly changed our business was, was lifting the hood and letting somebody help us analyze it and be like, why did you make this decision and then this one seemed like, this was a great decision. Can you do that decision again? And we're like, oh, why didn't we think of that obvious freaking thing? Good idea.Lesley Logan 22:19  Yes, I do remember. I do. I actually know exactly which conversation you were talking about.Brad Crowell 22:24  You know, it changed our business. You know, like, hilarious. Lesley Logan 22:27  It changed our lives. Brad Crowell 22:28  It changed our lives. Yeah, so, so having that one on one, you know, in your Pilates practice can also be just as revelatory, you know, just a third party perspective. So I love that. All great points for Tami. Brad Crowell 22:39  Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into those Be It Action Items. Brad Crowell 22:44  All right, let's talk about these Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Tami-Adrian George? She said, hey, you know what I like to do, I don't set alarms of take out the trash or go do the thing. She said she sets alarms that build her up. And so she suggested that we all do that instead of wake up or walk the dog. Change that label to you're doing amazing. Let's go. Or even on tough travel days, she reframes it, woohoo. Today's a travel day. Let's do this, right? We love that. I think that's brilliant.Lesley Logan 23:20  I love this. It's because I just saw something on the internet was like, hey, like, change your like, your folders on your phone to like affirmations. And so, like, I did, and I'm like, trying to figure out how to get all of my apps into different folders so I can just look at the affirmations. Like, that's all I want. I'm like, what, what app is this? Is it I am connected, or is it I am seen? Like, I don't know.Brad Crowell 23:41  Well, the the alarms, if you're not familiar with this, I know on an iPhone, at least, you can actually set a message with the alarm, and that's what she's talking about. So your alarm can certainly just be standard, boring old, beep, beep, beep, whatever. Or you can have it do that and show you a message, because the alarm can be, quote-unquote, for a thing. So, you can set a reminder and inside of the alarm. So if you have never explored that, it's just, all you have to do is click the add a text button. Brad Crowell 23:40  I think it's worth trying right now. Just do it for tomorrow morning.Brad Crowell 24:11  Yeah, and you can, you can check that out. So, you know, set yourself a positive alarm. What about you? Lesley Logan 24:17  Okay, so I'm really, my biggest takeaway is that I'm really proud and excited to share like, Tami has been working so hard. And like, we've been able to watch it from this, like, the sidelines and cheer her on, and, like, help her in amazing ways. And she has an incredible eight week program called Have Skills, Will Travel. Brad Crowell 24:34  Have Skills, Will Travel.Lesley Logan 24:35  And she, it's a program, it's like you already you have a lot of what you need to have a mobile business, but she helps you put it in the right organization, so that it's you're not just driving around town like a maniac trying to, like service everyone, but the business works for you. And so.Brad Crowell 24:52  I mean, it's not just that, it's also like, a lot of practical tips and lit, like learned experience that we're talking about.Lesley Logan 24:58  Profitable. Not just profitability, but safety and sustainability so you don't burn out. Brad Crowell 25:03  Yeah, and she she does, like her program I was talking with her about, like her one-on-one coaching, and when she actually works with clients, she becomes their accountability buddy. So this eight-week program that we're excited to be able to host.Lesley Logan 25:17  Yeah, we're gonna host it on Profitable Pilates. Brad Crowell 25:20  Yes, it's going to be great, because it's going to be four live calls, virtual calls, where so every other week during the eight week program, and she's going to give you some homework to go do, and you're going to be able to wrap your mind around this business model and to really see, is this something that is for me? Is this something I want to do? And if so, you're going to be able to walk away with, like, a pretty good road map for getting started. And then if, as you're pulling, you know, like going out there to do it, you need more, you know, you can still connect with Tami outside of that afterwards. So, yeah, come, come join us. In order for you to find more information about this, go to prfit.biz/events. So, prfit.biz/events that'll put you on our waitlist for our live events that we're doing for Profitable Pilates prfit.biz/ Lesley Logan 26:08  Yeah, so even if Pilates or other fitness instructors who are wanting to do more in home, so instead of having your own space, you use their space, this is for you. And if you're even just curious about it, like it's it's going to be affordable and worthwhile. So that you don't you can go full in knowing you love this, or going, whoop, I'm so out on that. Like Tami, I think we joked about this episode, like, I am not an in-home Pilates teacher. It is not I want you to come to me, but like she's so good at it, you know? So anyways, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 26:39  And I'm Brad Crowell. Thank you so much for joining us today. How are you going to use these tips in your life?Lesley Logan 26:46  Better tag us. Better send us to a friend who needs it. Send us to your Pilates teacher friend who needs it. 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After 34 years of teaching, Tami-Adrian George knows what it takes to build a business that supports both your schedule and your sanity. In this episode, Lesley Logan and Tami talk about how she stumbled into Pilates, why she chose mobile teaching, and what it really looks like to run a thriving in-home fitness business. You'll hear about the mindset shifts that helped her get unstuck, the systems she uses to stay grounded, and how her Have Skills Will Travel method empowers teachers to build flexible businesses with purpose.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.Guest Bio:Tami-Adrian George is a multi-talented mobile Pilates instructor, rehabilitation specialist, and business coach, best known for her Have Skills, Will Travel method. She began her career as a competitive dancer and NFL cheerleader, even performing at a Super Bowl. Transitioning into acting and modeling, Tami appeared in Starship Troopers, General Hospital, and more than 50 national commercials. The demands of the entertainment industry led her to Pilates, which became a transformative and sustainable approach to health and well-being. Pilates provided her with the stability to make empowered choices and redefine her career path. Embracing the freedom of mobile teaching, Tami built a thriving practice serving high-profile clients in private settings. Through her signature method, she now coaches service professionals to grow premium mobile businesses without the overhead of a studio—helping them create lives of flexibility, connection, and success. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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We all have limitations we're holding on to, and sometimes you just need that one on one, eyes on you to say, great where you are you're doing fantastic. Please, let's not measure you against the 19-year-old on the mat next to you. Let's measure you against you.Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:07  Hi, Be It babe, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. So excited. We've been saying we're gonna have her on the pod, OPC teacher and truly expert in teaching your service in people's homes. Tami-Adrian George the one and only. Truly, truly, truly, so excited. She is here at the house filming for OPC, and we have exciting thing coming out with her. But I really wanted you to hear like, how your life can have so many chapters, and they all can layer upon themselves. I think sometimes we're so hard on ourselves about like, oh, I went over here, I took this detour, and I, what you're gonna hear in her story is like, how everything just layers upon itself, and how you can utilize these gifts that you have to do the thing that you want and it can fulfill you. You can be fulfilled, right? Instead of, like trying always to do the next thing. So here's Tami-Adrian George. I'm so excited that she's on the pod. Thank you so much for being here. Lesley Logan 1:55  All right, Be It babe. Guess what? We are doing things differently today. Our guest is in the house. Our guest is Tami-Adrian George. She is like, the one and only, most fabulous, most amazing. Can't believe the lives this woman has lived. I have been, Brad and I have been so honored tonight. I don't know that Tami knows this, but we met Tami through Agency Mini, many, many years ago. Brad did a call with you, and he got off, he's like, I really want to help her. She is amazing. She is such a go-getter. We could do so much with her. And here we are, I don't know, five years later, four years later, at least, I think it's five, and you have done so much. So Tami, will you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Tami-Adrian George 2:35  Well, hey there, yes, it's me, Tami-Adrian George, and it's been quite the adventure. I came into Pilates quite by accident. This was something that was going to save my brain, because before that, I had been in high school, competitive dancer, competitive cheerleader, choreographing, competitive competitions for other teams. I danced at the Super Bowl, things like that. Then I get out of there, get into college. Decide, let's, let's act while we're in the middle of college. Okay, let's do that. So I start modeling and acting. Almost miss my college graduation because I was working so much that I was never in town. I did the entire last year of university via fax. That's how old I am.Lesley Logan 3:32  Can you believe it that they did that? I'm impressed that they did that.Tami-Adrian George 3:35  My professors are really great. So by the time I got to the end, you know, they were willing to sit and talk with me and say, okay, why is it that you're never in class? Have you been to the movie theater lately? Then I realized this time that I was on different sets, especially photo shoots in particular. But any set, there is this weird dichotomy that goes on where they want you to fit into the wardrobe, but they have this thing called the craft service table, which is a giant table laden with every food you could ever want that will knock you on your butt with fatigue and sleep, will make you bloat instantly, and you're not allowed to eat any of it.  Lesley Logan 4:20  Right. But it's there. It's there. They fed you. They gave you the opportunity to eat, but they really you're not supposed to do it. Tami-Adrian George 4:29  And I was around people with some really terrible eating habits, some really disturbing and dangerous habits, and I realized I need to figure out something to do that I can do while I'm traveling. There's not always a gym available. I can't always go for a run. Sometimes I'm in a country or a state that I've never been in before by myself, and I can't just go for an hour run. And I stumbled into Pilates, and the instructor that I was working with this wonderful woman named Jacqueline Potter said I really think you need to become an instructor. And I'm thinking, My life is so full I don't have time. But I went ahead and kept doing it. Started, oh, this is kind of cool. Oh, I could do this. I could do that. And I realized that by becoming an instructor, I got to learn more, and I got to do more. And it was, it was always the thing that kept me grounded. So no matter what set I was on, no matter where I was traveling in the world, I always had Pilates. I always had a stable of clients at places that I was teaching around town, private sessions that I was doing in people's homes. And it gave me the freedom to turn down jobs. I didn't want to do a lot of nudity. I didn't want to do a lot of sex scenes. There were things that I just knew weren't right for me at the time. This is, you know, the 90s, early 2000s every person of color was stripper, sex worker, girlfriend of drug dealer, dead.Lesley Logan 5:57  You'd be dead girl number two.Tami-Adrian George 6:00  Yeah, that's what happened. You get this, this great character, and you do all this character development, but you're really still secondary. And I was fighting for every part, because it wasn't like it is now. And there came a point once I got married and once I had a son and actually killed my husband in a movie. That's how we met. My husband had some serious health issues going on, and I realized I wasn't getting the joy from acting that I was getting from Pilates, from my clients, from helping them get to their goals. When an audition would come through, or sometimes even a booking would come through, I would get this tightness in my chest, like I don't want to do this job. I just got this particular person through a hip replacement. We're not done yet, and you want me to go sit in hair and makeup for three hours. Are you kidding? So eventually the pandemic hit. And I think that's how I found you and Brad, the Agency is, I'm home by with my husband and my child, but I'm alone, and I need connection. Lesley Logan 7:10  Yeah, yeah. We all find ourselves in a place where it's kind of like, not a fork in the road, but just like I can't keep going the way it's going, and I've gone as far as I can go on my own, and I need help, and I just so, you know, know, like, I go every few years. I'm like, okay, I've gone as far as I can with the knowledge that I have. Changes have to be made, shifts, and it's interesting. Thank you for taking us on the journey. Of like, the pendulum swinging. Of like, first Pilates was there to support you. Then Pilates became something that you did in between jobs, then it became like, oh, actually, I'm enjoying this more. And how, how interesting that you're so connected to yourself because of who of all the work you did, that you could feel like, oh, I'm not getting excited about a booking. Like I should be excited about a booking.Tami-Adrian George 7:54  Exactly. And I left out the years that I worked at an urgent care that also had a family practice and a workers comp suite attached to the medical complex, and I was always hanging out in the physical therapy workers comp area, looking to see what they were doing. What are you doing now? Why are you doing that? And to see that oh my gosh. Pilates is physical therapy. It all comes full circle. The exercises that they're teaching are some of the things that I'm learning over here. I don't know about the rest of the country, but I can say in California, physical therapists are not allowed to work on a part of your body that is not in your doctor's prescription. Lesley Logan 8:40  That's definitely in the States, yes. Tami-Adrian George 8:42  Period. But the body heals as a unit. The body compensated for your injury, your surgery, whatever you were going through as a whole. So that's why, even though you got your knee replaced on the left, your right shoulder is killing you, because we're doing these things to balance through the body when we're in pain. So it was interesting for me to see these amazing physical therapists whose hands were tied, and now they were starting to reach out to Pilates instructors and say, I'm doing this with my patient. Can you supplement them and get them back to whole. So that's a whole nother part of you know what you're doing in your life starts to come in every, you're doing everything for a reason. You don't know what it is, yet. Lesley Logan 9:33  I love this. I actually do. I, you're kind of on the same mindset as I just been hearing that, like, I think it's really easy for us to go, oh my God, I wish I'd known this then, or I wish I'd done this now. Or I wish, I feel like I wasted my time there. And it's like, actually, y'all, if you just take a look at your whole resume, not just the resume you put out for the job that you want, where you like, you know, let's move with this thing, and let's adjust this thing. But if you look at your whole resume, everything you've done has assisted in getting you to where you are and what you liked about those things, there's commonalities that you can like, you can actually borrow from to help you figure out, like, what, where do you want to go? Because, as Pilates instructors, you and I have had very different careers. You know, I did have some in-person clients. It did not fill my cup, it did not fill my joy. But it feels yours like, it's like, literally, the thing that you do. And I think, like, had I not ever done in person, I couldn't actually help people who are like, oh my gosh, go teach in someone's house. I'm like, okay, hold on. Hold on. Because I had to go into someone's house where I definitely it was at the top of, like, it was in L.A., it's like, the top of Hillcrest, the last house on the top of Hillcrest. You guys, I'm driving my Mini Cooper, and I'm going there. And the security is like, okay, you can come in here. You can go here. You know, the ambassador will meet you in here. And I'm like, what is he the ambassador of? And no one would give me his name. And then, like, damn it. Then one day, the sheriff, literal, the sheriff, was just sitting there watching me teach him. And I'm like, I'm sorry, this isn't a viewing show. You can work out too. Like you're just gonna work out because I'm not gonna be watched by the sheriff. And then the mayor, the fucking mayor, shows up. You guys also, they were not exactly the cleanest sheriff or the cleanest mayor. So I'm like, now, like, who is this guy? I'm always getting paid in cash. And then I was like, one day, I was like, leaving. I was like, there's always a car inside this house. It's always watching this house. I'm gonna be questioned. I'm gonna be interrogated. I was like, I can no longer teach in person. I was like, I just thought myself them going, you, you know information, you're gonna be like, microphoned or something. And all I could hear is this man, belp and fart. But, like, you know, anyways. But I think, like, it was never a waste of my time, because it really allowed me to go hold on, like, let me understand that part of the business, so that when you came in to Agency, we could really see, like, what a gold mine and what a great thing you had going, and how you could elevate that.Tami-Adrian George 11:55  I started, like, all Pilates instructors start, right? You have to do the observation hours, and you have to do the practice hours, and then you have to do some apprenticeship. So I feel like I've been in all of the parts except for actual studio owner. I have managed, I have supervised, I've trained other instructors. I've been the employee, I've been the independent contractor, I've been the person who rents studio space. I've been in all of the situations, and it's so funny what you're saying about you know, these people, I have a file, not a digital file, an actual file folder filled with NDAs, of things I have had to sign for, the various people I have worked with over the last 34 years. I always used to think, well, okay, I have to tell somebody where I'm at, because if I disappear, no one will know.Lesley Logan 12:53  Yes, yes, yes. Thank God for location services on the phones now, because now that's a thing, but that wasn't a thing when I was teaching at home. So it's like, okay, you couldn't even, there wasn't even a signal up there, so I couldn't call for help if I wanted to, yeah. Tami-Adrian George 13:11  Totally. Lesley Logan 13:12  Well, okay, so Tami, I mean, Tami-Adrian, we know you as an OPC teacher, and we know you have, like, what's been really cool in watching you the last five years is that you have been really not just solidifying your business, but, like, truly enjoying the business that you've created. I think that that's really unique. A lot of teachers keep thinking that, oh, I've reached this peak. Now I gotta find another goal. I gotta find I gotta find another goal. Can you tell us, like, a little bit about what you do as a day to day gig, and then also, like, how you came to go, wow, I really, like, this is really for me, because I think a lot of people listening, even if they're not a Pilates instructor, can actually learn from like, oh, what maybe are the signs or the the qualities or the feelings that make me go, oh, I'm actually fulfilled. Tami-Adrian George 13:56  Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, so my let's start with the day-to-day, and then I want to tell you about like working with you and Brad and how that helped me come into just a completely different feeling about what I was doing. So a typical day to day for me is I will start the morning with my virtual private clients, some of whom are back east, so the timing works out perfectly for me. So once I finish those sessions, then I pack up the lunch bag. It literally looks like I'm going on a picnic. You're with me. You and Brad are with me. You know, I eat every five minutes. I take little, tiny bites. I'm like a tiny bison. I graze all morning long, and I start heading out for the day to which client is on the roster for that day. And we have different things we might be working on. So sometimes I might have my golfers, my pickleball players, who have very particular goals. There are things that we are trying to do. So I have been trained in both classical and contemporary Pilates, because I need to be able to spin on a dime to what someone is telling me at that moment. And I'm very big on what is your ultimate goal? If your ultimate goal is I'm going to my sister's wedding. I want to look great. I'm not the person for you, and I will find you an amazing person who will make that happen for you. I'm the person who when you say, I need to get my handicap down, I need to be able to play a full 18 holes without my back hurting, and I'm going on a golf trip where I'm going to play five days in a row. Oh, now I have a vision. Let's do this. Let's go. Then I make sure I have breaks throughout the day. I'm very particular about where I'm teaching, the distance I'm teaching, because it can't be be bopping all over town all day. And there are times that I book into my day so that I can go for a walk. I teach in really beautiful parts of the Los Angeles Westside beach communities. So there's time to go for a walk, there's time to get my own workout in, there's time to sit down and eat real food, and I'm usually done by a fairly early part of the day. I don't actually work that many hours a week. And then maybe there's a beach walk with my husband or my son's in universities, so there's a phone call or FaceTime with him, and then there's my time where, what's the thing that fills me today? Do I want to do a meditation? It turns out I'm not the morning meditation person. I, it's not my jam at all. Lesley Logan 16:33  To me, the morning is like, okay, the morning has started, and I want to start with it. I am. I find I have it better at the afternoon going, okay, well, I don't actually want to do anything, so I'm gonna procrastinate with meditation.Tami-Adrian George 16:42  Exactly and then two hours have passed. Yes, I have reached all the masters in the universe, but now I don't want to do anything and, and I believe very strongly that your great day starts the night before. So there's always a part of my afternoon and evening where I am prepping for the next day. Either it's the food I'm preparing or it's looking over who's on the schedule for the next day and where are we in progressing them to their goal. So I'm thinking ahead of what exercises I want to do, things like that. And then I also coach, so I have other instructors, and also people who aren't Pilates instructors, massage therapists, you know, anything you have that is a service that helps someone can be mobile. And I might be on a coaching call, speaking with someone about where they're at in their business and helping them get to their call. Lesley Logan 17:38  Yeah. So because can you, since you have done everything but own a studio, I've done similar, I've done all of it but work at a franchise. So like, I, can you talk about, like, how did you decide, or know that, like, going into homes actually is how you wanted to teach, versus, like, having people come to you because we sit on opposite sides. I'm like, you can come to me. You know, but like, you're like, no, I liked, I can go here and I go, is it just the beach walk? Like, what made it so that you really like to go into people's homes?Tami-Adrian George 18:10  So the first studio I ever taught at, Pilates Studio Pasadena, doesn't exist anymore because the parent company went bankrupt. And what we didn't know was it was a, it was like a a compound of fitness. There was a private workout place here, and a this, and a that, and a yoga student, all these things that were in Old Town, Pasadena, right where the Rose Bowl comes down the street, not the Rose Bowl, the Rose Parade comes down the street. What we didn't know was that the Pilates Studio was who was making money, and we were covering the payroll for all of the other workout facilities, and sometimes our checks would bounce. And one day, we found out doors are closed, we are done, but we all had keys, so I know that the statute of limitations have passed until we find talking about it. So who got together? We unlocked the studio at night, we unloaded all of the Pilates equipment, put it on the trucks and drove it to someone who had just bought a home they didn't have any furniture yet. And we put it like, okay, the dining room has all the Wunda Chairs, and the living room is going to have the Cadi and a couple of Reformers, and the back patio put this, and there was literally something like a click, oh, I'm in a house. I'm in a house doing Pilates. Now I'm doing it with five other instructors, and we worked for free, because right before that company went out of business, we were selling packages.Lesley Logan 19:46  Right. So all these people had paid. Tami-Adrian George 19:47  We'd had a big drive and all these people had just bought packages, and then the door shut, and we didn't know that that big drive was their way of getting cash to cover the businesses. They knew they were gonna go bankrupt. They just didn't tell us. So then I had to work for free to train out all of those packages that I had personally sold, because now my reputation was on the line. And as we got into studios and got the people would always say, can you come? Could you come to my house? Could you do this at my house? Could you do this? And it started with one person, and then another and another. And I realized there is a connection that you get to make in that private in-home setting, people will tell me things that they will never tell me in the studio, because there are other people in the studio, or if I was teaching a large group class, even a small, let's say, a foursome or a trio, there's no time to talk. We are here because the entire group is trying to move. So I didn't always get to understand their history, their surgeries, their injuries, whatever it was they were working towards, and also, too, their blocks. We all have blocks of what we think we cannot do. We all have limitations we're holding onto, and sometimes you just need that one on one, eyes on you to say, great, where you are you're doing fantastic. Please. Let's not measure you against the 19-year-old on the mat next to you. Let's measure you against you.Lesley Logan 21:22  Yes, oh, I do love that. I mean, I agree. Like people are a little more comfortable in their homes. You can also then and actually see like their setups. And you go, okay, so you said it was the Pilates last week that hurt your back. But do you see like this slope that you, you know, or like, can I look at this chair that you're sitting on at your desk? Like, that's not helpful, you know what I mean. So you do get more insight, but also they do have a bit more focus, because they're not distracted by the person and the other performer who's talking too loudly or who's doing crazy things, and they think they should be doing crazy things. It is more it's more personalized in that way as well. I love that. That's so cool. What a funny way of getting into like, knowing, like, oh, I could teach at a house. And then, because you had kept up with those sessions, that they're like, oh, can you teach me at my home? Because now they're seeing, Oh, I'm in a home. I could do this at my home. Tami-Adrian George 22:12  Yeah, they're like, wait, you can fit a Reformer here/ Yes, absolutely. You can fit a Reformer here. And you know what? You don't even need the reformer. Honestly, everything we're doing on the Reformer, I'm telling you, if I put you on the mat, you're going to shake like a leaf in the wind. You do not know how hard it is once we got to that point, too, of sharing that. And here's the other thing I find that is really interesting. Yes, the personalized attention. There is nothing like it. But the biggest problem I solve for my clients is time and convenience, there are certain people I tend to have CEOs, chairman of the boards and their families. For them to spend an hour in traffic trying to get to a studio, then circle around looking for parking, then finally do their workout and have to repeat the drive back home. It's hours of their time that they just do not have available. Lesley Logan 23:07  Well, they're not, then they can't be consistent, because then they're only can do it on a good week and and then they're frustrated because they yeah, all of those things. So like people, like them, they they're gonna have to pay for that time and convenient miss of you coming to their home, but now they can be consistent.Tami-Adrian George 23:22  Exactly. And, really, that's the secret, isn't it? That's the secret sauce. If you want to get results in what you're doing, it's the consistency.Lesley Logan 23:30  Yeah, yeah. I, you know, it made me think, like, as you were talking, when I, I always thought you had to have a big studio. Probably, it's very similar to you, like you work about I have the first show I ever worked at was a big studio. The first time I went to a Pilates studio with equipment, had multiple Reformers and all the things. And so I just thought, Oh, you have to have all of that, and all the in L.A., all the famous teachers were famous studios all had multiple of everything. And I'm like, I'll never own a studio because I have student loans. I have all this. I need all these things. And it was when I had put myself in a group of people, the community that I saw, one of my friends had made a private space for herself where there was just one of everything. I was like, oh, I could have, I could have a private studio. I could have, like, just, I could just teach the private because I only teach privates in a couple semi-private so, like, I could just do this. So I think it's really important for anyone, no matter who you are, listening like, it's important that we are inspired by other people sometimes, because we get blinders on of like, this is my experience. This is the only way that works. This is a way I've seen that work. So I have to do it this way. And when we're exposed to other environments or other ways of people doing it, then we can go, oh, I'm not gonna do it just like her, but I could do it like this, or I could do it like that, right? Like we, we kind of need that. We need that in the community that we're in.Tami-Adrian George 24:48  Exactly. I love what you're saying. It's making me think of the the other thing I wanted to mention when I started working with you and Brad, I didn't realize that what I was doing had a system. It was just what I was doing, because nobody else was really doing it in this manner, and to then have support of someone saying, no, what you're doing is actually a thing.Tami-Adrian George 25:11  Yeah. It's a thing that you're doing. Tami-Adrian George 25:14  You're doing a thing, and there seems to be a way that you're doing the thing, and we're going to help you do the thing better, and we're going to teach you how to structure it so that it's repeatable, and that you can take pressure off of yourself and that you can have support, and that we're here when you need us. And you know, there was a guy who used to always say, you're trying to have the panoramic view, but you're at the foothill of the mountain, so you have to climb a little and then you'll see a little more. And then you enjoy the view. You celebrate the view, do a little dance, and now climb higher. And each time that you climb and hold at that level for just a moment, just to enjoy it. You see more you see more possibilities. And eventually you start having a wider view, and you start seeing, oh my gosh, I can do this with that. During the pandemic, talking about that time, one of my favorite, favorite people to work with, had a stroke. So, I can't get to him. We've rehabbed him virtually because, oh, this online thing really works. And it was a little bit of convincing me and convincing him, but, guess what? He was back out there playing golf, doing all the things, no problem. You know, the deficits were seriously down. Yeah. And I needed that view. I needed that lift to view, lift to view, repeat.Lesley Logan 26:55  Well, and what I'm hearing you're saying is, like, we all need someone to go, oh, you're doing a really great job here. And if we do this now you've got a system, and now it's repeatable, and you're not wasting your time, or you also even need to see like from other people's perspective. Oh, what they're doing. Oh, I love that for them. And then that also helps you solidify like you like what you're doing. Like, we all need it wherever we are, because we can get so closed off, and then we, running a business is hard. The business is hard. I've said this a few times now, like, and I will keep repeating it because it it really blessed my heart, like when someone in our Agency asked the Pocket Lesley, which is like a bot of me train 10 million of my words, you know, 10 years of coaching.Tami-Adrian George 27:36  I love Pocket Lesley, because she's my size.Lesley Logan 27:40  She's, she's like, have you ever had an obstacle in your business? And it's like, yeah, daily.Tami-Adrian George 27:46  Like, you mean this last hour? Lesley Logan 27:47  Yeah, daily. And so when you have someone to go, oh my God, what you're doing here is really amazing. It helps you go, oh, okay, it is, it is amazing. I just am having a hard time right now. I'm, I'm at the foothills, and I can't get to the panoramic view, where other people are right now, and so, you know, we at agency are so excited, because we have helped thousands of businesses in this industry run things the way that they want to. And one of the things we've celebrated along the way is like, each year that we've known you, we've watched you run your business so it supports you and your family. And I think that's what's so cool, because it's not just because you go into people's homes that your business supports your families, because you are intentional about what your goals are and how your business need to support that, and then we could support you in doing that, and year after year. And now here you are, only in five years you put systems together, you have a very thriving business, and like you mentioned, now you get to coach other service people, to have a business that does it the way that you do it. Tami-Adrian George 28:45  Absolutely. Lesley Logan 28:46  That hat, like, you know, can we talk about the be it till you see it for that like, what would, what were the what was there was there mental hurdles you had to do? Was it just like, because, because I was so excited, when you're like, I'm doing this. I'm like, yeah, you should. Tami-Adrian George 29:01  The hurdles were, oh my God, the hurdles were real. Remember, you should do the videos, The Struggle is Real? Oh, the hurdles are real. It's, it's, you were talking about being in the tunnel. We're working so hard towards something that we believe is the only thing. And I don't, actually, I don't think I have anyone right now who is exclusively mobile teaching. They are either business owners, they own a gym, they own a studio, they are also teaching like community classes, say, at the Y or at a gym someplace, or they're renting studio space, and now they're adding mobile training as an extension, as another service, I mean, and that's the thing, I think, for people to understand, you're providing a service. You're not just teaching a class. You are a service provider. So you can provide as many services as your heart dreams up. Let's make that happen for you. And there's a gentleman that I'm working with right now, and he had become almost exclusively online in big, big, big classes, and he hadn't had the one-on-one connection with his students in a long time, because everything was far away. And when I say online, not live, I mean, pre-recorded classes. And he was so burnt, so burnt out. I don't like this. I don't want to record any more classes. I don't want to walk into a room of 30 people anymore. And I said, you know, you're the reason it's not in your heart is because your heart is not reaching anyone. So we took starting one day, one day of your schedule. We're gonna make this your mobile training day. This is your I'm out in the field, and we're gonna start letting people know. Just pick amongst your favorites. We're gonna start letting people know you're available. He's now having to hire another trainer because he has this established brand. But now people are like, oh, you can come to me, too? And you have a kind of a signature thing that you do, and you can do it in my home with me? Let's do this. So it's how you would like your business to be. It's not give up your studio, give up your gym. Never book massages at the hotels ever again. It's how can we incorporate this into what you're doing so that you can expand. You also get to charge more, just saying.Lesley Logan 31:31  I was gonna ask you, the number, the number one thing that we see people do wrong when they go into people's homes is discount the price. Yeah, you are, yeah. And if you're, like, how do I know what to charge? Well, guess we'll have, stay tuned. We have, we have help for you there. But like, yeah, you it's convenient for them. It is not necessarily convenient for you, for so many reasons, because booking back-to-back doesn't exist. Like in my studio, in my home, like, people can come every hour on the hour, and I can fit four people in four hours and be done, right? You do not fit four people in four hours, you know? So that is so when you are working with people in their home, you have to charge. There is a higher cost to that, because they are paying for convenience, just like when I order food to be delivered, it is more expensive than when I order it at the restaurant.Tami-Adrian George 32:23  It's a premium it's a premium service and you are bringing your knowledge to someone. So yes, now the premium is even higher because you actually know what you're doing. Of course, anybody can take, my gosh, I call them the Pinterest workout plan.Lesley Logan 32:42  Oh, okay, I call them Instagram workout plans. But yes, anyone can do that. Tami-Adrian George 32:46  They start culling and culling exercises from all these different places, and they put them together, and then they wonder why they're not getting the results, or now they've injured themselves, or they're burnt out and they don't want to do it. And there's a reason for that. People, it's like New Year's resolutions, any promise you make to yourself that is a promise broken. Lesley Logan 33:07  Yeah, because you need the accountability of someone else, and you also need their guidance. You know, we all need it. I mean, I say I pay a Pilates instructor to teach me. I can teach myself, and I do multiple days a week, and two days a week, I'm held accountable to a full hour with someone watching me to give me feedback, because left to my own devices. I'm going to check my oh, I'm going to change this podcast. Oh, look at that full hour outside. We all need it, right? We all need it. We all we're laughing because we all need it. Even coaches like you and I have coaches for things that we do, because we all kind of need this. And there is an investment there. And yes, it does mean, like, some things can be inaccessible to people, but also for every single one of you listening, no matter what your business is, you're not you cannot solve the world's problems. You can solve a problem for someone that feels like it's their whole world. You can do that, but you gotta, like, really dial it in. And I think, like, what you do so well, Tami, is there is a slice of of the pie that of people who would prefer to be convenient for them so they can be consistent and and you can, if you're a teacher, a massage therapist, whatever, you could be the person who does that. That's your expertise. So Tami, we're super, super excited. We're gonna let the cat out of the bag a little bit of what we're doing here. So, so we, at Profitable Pilates, truly love being able to help teachers of any background, true like run a business that works for them. Like we do not do templates. We have a formula. I should say we have two. We have a scheduling formula, and we have a pricing formula, but all of those require your goals to go into the top for it to filter through, so there is not a single and even if the price answer is the same as someone else's, like, what went through and all the different ways you get there is very, very different. So we're super excited, because you do what you do so well, and the world is missing an expert like you. So tell everyone what we what we've got going on, we've got planned. Tami-Adrian George 34:58  So, I have a method called the have skills will travel method, yes, because really, that's what you need to be a mobile instructor, the skill set you already have and some gas in your car. Let's go. In between those two things are a whole list of things you need to know and need to be doing to make sure that it is indeed profitable and that you are safe, and that you are happy and your client is happy. So I'm taking my one-on-one three-month coaching program, and we are creating a special group coaching program that is just for Profitable Pilates, just for, well, we'll have Agency members there too, and it will live in the Profitable Pilates universe, so excited, and we're going to do this as an eight-week program.Lesley Logan 35:57  Oh, I love this, because it's any we all have eight weeks we can dedicate to doing a dream. We all have it because every dream takes a long time. Anyways, eight weeks is like a fraction. Tami-Adrian George 36:04  And it doesn't matter where you're starting from, wherever you are in your business and thinking about doing this, or you're already doing this. It works where you're at, jump in, where you're at.Lesley Logan 36:18  Yeah, and I just want to say, like, if you're like, you're like, oh my gosh, you guys, I can just make sure I charge more, and I can just go, yes, you could. And then you get to learn a lot of weird things the hard way. I'm sure Tami was like, oh my God, Lesley, you went into some random house on the top of Hillcrest. My heart. Tami-Adrian George 36:34  As soon as you were telling me that. And I was like, oh my God, Did you have a safety buddy?Lesley Logan 36:41  People knew where I was going. And I did tell the ambassador's team. Okay, my people know where I'm going. I mean, to hear, however I will say, like I did listen to, like, murder in the Hollywood Hills, the dateline, and I was like, oh my God, that is like, I can't believe that doesn't happen more often, because, like, so many women are offered, oh, there's a modeling gig and at the top of this house, because everything happens and people so anyways, there are so many different things, not just safety, but also not just pricing, that you have to be thinking about and when it comes to doing this. So that one, it still works for you. And two, everyone wins. The clients win, but your business wins because you are allowed to be successful in your business and achieve wins for other people. So if you are someone in the service based business, or a Pilates instructor who's interested in seeing how this service can be added to your business, you might even decide you don't want to do it afterwards. And that's fine too, because now you solve that without having to sell a package and then go fulfill it. So, so you can go to Profitable Pilates website. We have P it's prfit.biz/events and you can get on the wait list for this. But we're going to take a brief break and then find out Tami-Adrian's Be It Action Items. And also, where else you can, just like, kind of stalk her in a good way. Tami-Adrian George 37:50  Absolutely. Lesley Logan 37:50  All right, Tami-Adrian, where do you hang out? Because you also do give out great advice, you know, for free on things that you hang out on.Tami-Adrian George 38:04  I hang out on Instagram. That is my jam. I am @Tami.Pilates.rehab and it's T-A-M-I and then you can also find me at T.A.G., my name, Tami-Adrian George, tagpilates.com head over to the website, links, move around, dance around in there and sign up on the waitlist. We're so excited to have this group together so that we can be learning and growing together.Lesley Logan 38:33  Yeah, I mean, it's going to be so, so amazing. And I just want to say, just like you could, if you need to, because I've been in a place where I've had to call free advice together, absolutely you can, but at some point, if all you've ever done is call, just pull it together and bounce around from free advice to free advice. I would say that investing in something like it's an eight-week program is so it's a risk-free type of environment, because it's you're not committing for longer than that. You know, at Agency, we do make people commit for six months, and the reason is, it's like, it does take time. But for this particular topic, you can, eight weeks, get your systems in place and really understand, like, is this the thing I want to do, and how do I do it right. So from the beginning, you don't have, like, oh, I'm undercharging that person. So now I've got to go back and tell them a new rate, even though I've been, you know, like we want to, we want to make sure it's, it's it's beneficial for everyone. So get on the waitlist, either on Tami's website or on prfit.biz/events. We'll get that taken care of. Tami, you are so wonderful. I mean, I'm so Brad and I just adore getting to spend time with you. We always learn new things. Your life is its own adventure. So I really hope, like, at some point you'll be a child author, which is like, The Adventures of Tami. You know what I mean? Like, I just feel like there's so many different things you could do, but can you give everyone some Be It Action Items, bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted, steps they can take to be it till they see it. Tami-Adrian George 39:50  Okay, this is one of my favorite things. And before I say, have to say, I love you and Brad so much. It has been the best adventure I have been on with the two of you, and I'm so glad. I'm so glad we're still having more adventures together. It's just fantastic. Okay, everyone has their phone and you set alarms on your phone for things that you don't particularly want to do. I set alarms on my phone randomly throughout the day that pump me back up. So where it says label, instead of putting wake up, walk dog, things like that. I put, how are you so amazing? I put, congratulations. You are crushing it. How are you doing this? That's what's on my alarm system. Oh, my God. I'm obsessed.Lesley Logan 40:37  I'm changing all I'm gonna have alarms just for no reason whatsoever. I don't even like being disturbed, but I'm gonna be it myself disturbed.Tami-Adrian George 40:44  Now, if I have to set an alarm because I have to wake up early I'm catching a flight, something like that, I will say, woo-hoo you're traveling today. Let's go. That's what it says while the alarm is going off. So when it goes off on your phone, instead of, oh my God, I have to be up and get on the flight. I'm like, oh yeah, I'm traveling. Let's go. Oh myLesley Logan 41:05  god, this is going to change my whole life, because I often wake up going, I don't know where I am and what day today is, but if my alarm didn't say wake up, it would say I could have it say something else, you know, like. Tami-Adrian George 41:14  You are in Singapore, aren't you lucky?Lesley Logan 41:20  Go get that coffee, babe. Go get it. I, this is a wonderful, wonderful because, you know, there's so many different things you want to remind themselves up. And if you're unable to have Post-Its all over your house, it could be alarms. What a cool way to do it.Tami-Adrian George 41:35  Because the reminders, if I set a reminder on my phone, I don't do it. Yeah, I don't. No.Lesley Logan 41:41  No, it's in my work or it doesn't get done. I don't need an alarm going. It's time to do this. Be like, ignore. Yeah, oh, I love, Tami, I love that. That's so everyone can do that right now. Okay, we ought screenshots of the alarm going off. We want them to send it to tami.pilates.rehab. We want you to send it to the Be It Pod. We want you to share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Maybe, if you are not a Pilates instructor who wants to go in-home, but you know someone who does, they need to hear this. Because, here is the deal, when your friends complain about how their life sucks, you have to listen. And you know those people, they repeat it. And what if? What if you could, you could change that. So then you guys could talk about what's exciting. Tami-Adrian George 41:42  I'll listen for you. Yeah, I'll listen to the complaints for you. Lesley Logan 42:03  Tami will listen. That's why we have people who are, like, in Agency, they're like, oh, my friends are with this. I'm like, why are you helping them? Not that I don't want you to be a generous person, but you invested in this. So you can focus on you. If they are unwilling to invest in themselves, in their business, you can be a great friend. You can be a great friend. And so, oh, it sounds like you've been working on that for a long time. Have you thought about getting help? Like, that's still helpful, that's still listening, but y'all, we have all been trained that, oh, we're not a good friend if we don't just like, do every like, give all the advice, no, you have to at sometimes, focus on you and be like, I'm here for you. And here are some resources that have helped me. Tami-Adrian George 42:59  I think you're being a better friend by saying, okay, you have to take action. I want you to take a step that is truly for you. I'm investing in me, and, God, I want to see you invest in you. Let's do that.Lesley Logan 43:11  Yeah. Oh, I love that. I love that. Obviously we could talk forever, because we do. We have so much fun. So, Tami-Adrian George, OPC teacher, incredible coach for in-service home, have skills, well-travel people and top, best of the game when it comes to helping people reach their goals and all that you do with your teaching. So thank you for being here. Everyone, how are you going to use these tips in your life? We want to know. Tell us and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 43:39  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 44:21  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 44:26  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 44:31  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 44:38  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 44:41  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This FYF delivers a dose of inspiration with Javeno McLean's new book, You Are Not Your Limits. Lesley shares wins from the community—celebrating self-love, new clients, and honoring loved ones. Plus, she reveals how hiring a trainer helped her prepare for her 8th tour with more energy and focus. Tune in to be reminded why investing in yourself is the ultimate win.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Celebrating wins that inspire self-love, growth, and honoring loved ones.How prioritizing yourself can transform the way you show up for others.Simple ways to create energy and focus during busy seasons.Why embracing mistakes leads to surprising breakthroughs.Episode References/Links:Javeno McLean - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DI_ciUBId2L/Javeno McLean's Book: You Are Not Your Limits - https://a.co/d/c37Y7DBEp. 205 Javeno McLean - https://beitpod.com/javenomcleanEp. 226 Ryan-Mae McAvoy - https://beitpod.com/ryanmaeSubmit your wins - https://beitpod.com/questionsIf you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday.Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah.Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi Be It babe, hello from tour, my eighth tour. Oh my God, hello. We're on the road. We've done a couple stops, and I'm just so excited to be coming to your ears. Obviously, I recorded this before I left, but I am super excited to share what my win is. And it's not just being on tour, I promise you, there's some actual applicable things that you can use. But first, on these FYF episodes, we do something inspirational that you might have missed on the internet. We just need to hear about and celebrate. We do a win of yours. We do a win of mine, and then an affirmation. Lesley Logan 1:14  So first up, we've had Javeno McLean on the podcast before. So this post came up, and I was like, oh my God. What has he done? You guys, he has written a book. So his book officially released on the 15th of May. At the time that I was reading this, I could not pre-order on the U.S., but they are, they told me that they're working on it. We are going to have him back on the pod. But his book is called, You Are Not Your Limits. You Are Not Your Limits. So Javeno McLean, that is the inspiration. Because, first of all, if you're not following him, you will see some great inspirations. I promise you, I promise you. What he is doing to show people that they are not their limits, just makes me cry happy tears. And so you'll be inspired all of the, you'll be inspired all of the time with him. I promise you, I promise you. So his book is out. By the time you hear this, you should be able to go get it, hopefully in the States as well. I'm sure they're making that work. He's got an amazing team on his side. Lesley Logan 2:05  All right, now, the wins of yours. Okay, so wins of yours. Let me pull these up, because these are wins you guys sent me on Instagram. So here we go, @jennvfitness, we made our last payment on our Ford Focus today. Way to, I mean, I remember when I made my last in my student loans, I was like, oh my God, I just did that. Longest I've ever had to commit to something. Ryan-Mae, my share is about leading with love, had amazing engagement interaction. Yes, let's all lead with love, Ryan-Mae. You guys, let Ryan-Mae has also been on the Be It Pod, so check her out. Ryan-Mae, McAvoy, @hli_pilates, got a new client for my auction donation. Way to go. And @lorilwatson77 I decided to post my final honor to my best friend Ivy, keeping her in my heart forever. That's good. That's so good. You know, that is so, so good. I think, like so hard to like, see grief as a win, but like when we do things that allow us to have a special place for them and then honor them with others, like that is a win. So thank you, Lori, for sharing that with us. Thank you so much. Lesley Logan 3:08  All right, you guys a win of mine. By the way, you can send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions I know that doesn't make sense, because it's a win, not a question, but on the form, you can either put a question, or you put a win, or you could do both, and then we can celebrate you and send them on here. So, beitpod.com/questions. All right, my win. Okay, so the tour is off. It's doing great. Of course, we love it. We're on the eighth one, but the win is actually in that every time we do the tour, I find ways to make it even better, not just for the people who are attending, but for me to be the best version of me, so that I can make sure everyone has a good time. Like, I think this is really important. Like, I would say self-care isn't selfish care, but like, actually truly, like, you taking care of yourself means that you can be the best version of yourself for others, and so then they have a better experience in their day, right? So I like to make sure that I'm sleeping well, and I'm eating, fueling myself well, and then I my stomach doesn't hurt, and, like, my hormones are great, like all these different things. And so now that we've had seven tours, each tour gets better, and I'm able to go, oh, I like this. I don't like this. Oh, I like this. I don't like this. Well, it's not just about reflecting. We know that is a win, which we've done in the past. It's the implementation. So truly implementing what it is that I need. And so what I did is I hired a trainer so that my workouts at the gym can be efficient and support my needs. And so that's my win. And so I want to celebrate that with you, because I'm hoping you see that if you like, sign up for OPC, or you hire a trainer, you go to a studio, you have a gym membership like that is huge. An investment that you're doing is an actual win. It's not just a checklist on a to do list. Like, okay, did that? No, you invested in you. Things are gonna make you feel good. So I worked with my trainer for several months before I left, so we could really get to know each other, and then that way she can create workouts for me that don't take a long time, that helped me stay with my goals, stay strong. Have energy. I have more energy on the days I work out than the days I don't. And so that's what I did. That's my win. I invested in that for me so that I can be the best version of myself. So have the most fun on this tour, so that you can have a good time on it too. So there it is. Lesley Logan 5:12  All right, now an affirmation. Make mistakes. Make mistakes. I, of course, make mistakes. I'm not so good at celebrating that. That's something I work on daily. So I celebrate those mistakes, and I try really, really hard not to be hard on myself. But maybe we can all take it as like I gotta make more mistakes. Because you wanna know something, mistakes are how people like, some of the best things in science came from a fricking mistake. I can't name off the top of my head, but I feel like mold is one of those things. So I just want to say, don't be so hard on yourself. Sometimes your mistakes actually turn into some really incredible things, and you are a truly amazing person. So send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions. I want to celebrate you and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 5:54  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 6:36  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 6:42  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 6:46  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 6:53  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 6:57  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Feeling worthy isn't about waiting for permission—it's about owning your story and making bold decisions. In this recap, Lesley and Brad revisit conversation with fine jewelry designer Margot McNaull, whose bespoke creations empower women to celebrate their milestones. Together, they explore redefining self-care, building unshakable confidence, and shifting your mindset to break free from old patterns. This episode will inspire you to create a life that feels as good as it looks.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Must-know tips for underwear and shake plate use in Pilates.The reason why women often struggle to buy fine jewelry for themselves.The connection between self-worth, spending guilt, and asking for what you deserve.How to navigate life's “dark valleys” and see failure as a cue to keep going.Why revamping old jewelries can be a powerful reminder of your worth.Episode References/Links:Agency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniOPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/tourOPC Summer Tour Calgary - Opc.me/CalgaryUK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comEBY Seamless Underwear - https://shop.join-eby.com/collections/seamless-panties Shake Plate Recommendation - https://a.co/d/2WPk3eeSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsStór by Margot Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/storbymargotStór by Margot Website - https://www.storbymargot.com Margot McNaull's Website - https://www.margotmcnaull.comEp. 319 Nikole Mitchell - https://beitpod.com/nikolemitchellEp. 171 Johanna White - https://beitpod.com/johannawhite If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  That's where worthiness comes in. Is like, what can you do? Do you need to sit down and write down all the things that you know throughout realize you're worthy of asking for that pay raise? What is it going to take? But you can't ask other people for why you're worthy. You have to sit down and do some digging on yourself. Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:59  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the worthwhile convo I had with Margot McNaull in our last episode. I mean, also like glitter, like sparkle, like legacy, worthiness, worthwhile in our last episode, if you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now and listen to that one, then come back and listen this one, or listen to this one as a cliff notes, and then see if you like what we like, and listen to that one. You're gonna want to listen to it that's pretty cool. Okay, today. Brad Crowell 1:22  Actually, it's quite interesting. Lesley Logan 1:24  Oh yeah, it's a fun it was a fun episode. Who would have thought that we would have that episode but we did. Now, people like, what is the episode? Anyways. So today is, so today is July 24th 2025 and it's International Self-Care Day.Brad Crowell 1:44  Kind of poignant topic. Lesley Logan 1:45  Yeah, it really is. This is something I literally every single morning when I go on a walk. I shouldn't say every single morning, because, like with this sinus infection, if you haven't heard it yet, it'll pick up on it a little bit. I just don't think I look amazing in the morning, nor do I sound great. So I haven't been like all my you need to go on a walk. But if there's something I preach about every single day, it is self-care. So this is your day. This is your holiday. Brad Crowell 2:09  To buy yourself a ring. What? Lesley Logan 2:11  Yeah, what? Brad Crowell 2:11  What? Oh, I mean, it's your day to self-care.Lesley Logan 2:14  Self-Care, International Self-Care Day is celebrated on July 24th and I would actually call a getting yourself a ring, just like a reward and or something worth doing. But self-care is actually free usually. It stresses the importance of self-care as a cornerstone of wellness. On this day, individuals throughout the world are encouraged to make self-care as part of their day everyday routines entered into a priority is a milestone and an opportunity to raise further awareness of the benefits and effectiveness of self management of health. That's what self-care is, self-management of health. I love that. That is so great as opposed to like self-care isn't selfish care. Self-care, it's literally self-management of your fucking health. Oh, my God, my mind is blown. Self-care has always been incredibly important, but especially now, as people realize they need to take care of themselves and put themselves first. This has made people talk about and it increased the interest of others to take control of their health and wellness by prioritizing themselves. Today, we urge you to practice self-care, even if all you do is take a walk. Self-care, the reason I say it's mostly free because most of the things you can do for self-care is prioritize your sleep, your water intake, how you fuel yourself, that you that drunk food? Are you giving yourself food that makes you feel really awesome, giving yourself food that makes you feel like shit, right, every time? And I'm not saying food is good or bad, like when we have the Anthony episode, like we talked about that, but like, there are foods that aren't serving you, whether or not they're considered healthy or unhealthy, I don't care, whether they're not serving you. So are you fueling yourself, right? Are you surrounding yourself with people who make you feel better about yourself? That's self-care, right? Like, literally say no to a friend, an Eeyore friend, just throwback from last week, like or not, that's self-care, right? So maybe you have to put your phone on Do Not Disturb that's self-care. You know, so tons of things that are self-care, that are free. Spa days, not self-care. That is just something you get to do because it feels good and you deserve it. But it, to me.Brad Crowell 2:14  I like that distinction, because I think most of I mean for me too, I've thought about like, oh, self-care, I gotta go do something for myself, which means spending money. And it doesn't necessarily have to be that way. Lesley Logan 4:13  No, going for a walk around the block is self-care. Brad Crowell 4:21  Or, you know when, when you're feeling that afternoon slump, go do a handstand for four seconds at the wall and get some blood flow to your head. Yeah, that's self-care. You know, getting some vitamin D by sitting in the sun in the morning, that's self-care. Yeah. So doesn't have to involve spending money. All right. Well, here's what we got coming up. Agency Mini from Profitable Pilates just closed in the last couple of days. What an amazing event. I'm not gonna lie. Lesley Logan 4:46  It's a really great people. Brad Crowell 4:48  Well, I like that we changed it and it was shorter.Lesley Logan 4:51  Yeah. I mean, I think for everyone, because the biggest problem we have with and this is, like, why you know at the Be It Till You See It podcast, we talk about, like, you get better every time you do something. And so Agency Mini. Brad Crowell 5:03  It's our 11th time doing it, 11th. Lesley Logan 5:05  Yeah. It evolved. Every single time it evolved. And then the last three or four times, we're like, we have it dialed in. We have it nailed down. Everything is good. But the one piece of feedback that we used to get that we could never solve was like, the overwhelm. And we'd always tell people, don't take in everything, like, just take in what you need. But the problem is, is people have FOMO and we are perfectionist and, like. Brad Crowell 5:26  Don't worry. Agency isn't like Agency Mini. Agency Mini was chaos and, like, a whirlwind, and Agency actually, you know? But like, we still have to say that. So we were like, this is, there's, it's not aligned.Lesley Logan 5:36  Yeah, it's not aligned. So because of our new tools, we have in Agency, because of our new app, all these different things. Yeah, we have an app. It made it easier for us to make Agency Mini a mini version of Agency, without the overwhelm. And it was super fun to help people and now we have a bunch of Agency members, and it's just super great. So I'm excited for you guys. Can't wait to work with you guys, and we literally leave tomorrow. Brad Crowell 5:57  We're going on tour y'all. Lesley Logan 5:59  Are we leaving today? No, we leave now. Yeah, we're leaving today. Brad Crowell 6:03  Oh yeah, we're leaving tonight. You're totally right. I'd have 25th as the first class but, but we actually drive out tonight. Lesley Logan 6:11  Clearly, we recorded this early. We're on the road. Brad Crowell 6:14  We're on the road. No, no, we're not on the road just yet, because this drops in the morning, we'll be leaving tonight.Lesley Logan 6:14  They could be listening to it at night. So if you're listening tonight, we're on the road. So anyway, opc.me/tours, where you can get tickets because it's not too late, some cities are too late, but it's not too late to sign up. You can, as long as there's room you can sign up. And also, the Calgary stop is a virtual stop so.Brad Crowell 6:36  There are two virtual workshops in Calgary go to opc.me/calgary for that.Lesley Logan 6:40  Yeah, but opc.me/tours such tours, all 15 cities. It's really going quite amazing. We have three cities in Canada. Of course, Vancouver is way sold out. At the time recording this, Kamloops only has space in the workshop and not a lot. And Calgary has room in all of its goodness. I'm including the virtual spots. We did limit how many people could be at the virtual as well. So just because it's virtual doesn't mean everyone can attend. We we kept it quiet, kept it small, so you have a great experience. So go to opc.me/tour. Want to see you. And then we come home, unpack and change out the suitcases because now, and clean out the van. Brad Crowell 7:14  Because we're home for like, a week and a half. Lesley Logan 7:16  Week and a half, and then we go to the U.K. yeah, we're going to the U.K. Brad Crowell 7:22  Yeah we're gonna go to Scotland. Lesley Logan 7:26  We're gonna leave my dad in Scotland. We're gonna head down into the into Britain, and we're going to teach in Essex and Leeds in England, I guess. Brad Crowell 7:29  I mean I guess we'll call it Britain but I think Great Britain is all of it, and England is.Lesley Logan 7:34  You know, it's really quite complicated. It's really annoying. Let's say England is correct. You're absolutely right. I got little stuck. I was watching the Hamilton King George Sing a Song, and I think I just got stuck. You know, I love. It's one of the best songs. It's too bad it's about him. Yes, you'll be back. So anyways, so anyways, we'll go down into England. Excuse me, somehow I'm supposed to drive on the opposite side of the road that I'm used to, and we'll see how that goes. Brad Crowell 7:59  You're gonna do great, babe. Lesley Logan 8:06  Do great. No one. No turns, please. So we're gonna go to Essex. We have a Tuesday and a Wednesday workshop and workout situation going on. So go by day passes or two-day pass, you'll save money if it's two-day pass, and then we're gonna go up to Leeds. That's our second time in Leeds. We only have a couple spots left there. And then we're gonna hit back up to Scotland, grab my dad for his like, I don't know, adventures he's going on himself, and fly home.Brad Crowell 8:35  There's a coffee shop in Leeds that I'm very excited.Lesley Logan 8:38  Oh, the guy who makes a seven minute long latte. Brad Crowell 8:38  Yes, the guy. Lesley Logan 8:41  Yeah, the guy. Brad Crowell 8:42  I really hope he's still there. Lesley Logan 8:44  I think he is. According to Claire, he still is. Brad Crowell 8:47  Okay, good. Well, I'm very excited, because that's gonna be awesome. Lesley Logan 8:50  It is. Okay, you guys. Is one of the best lattes. It is the smallest cup I have ever seen. Have espresso and milk in it, and it.Brad Crowell 8:50  It's just like scientific coffee. Lesley Logan 8:58  It took them so long. I was like, I need a cup of coffee. Brad Crowell 9:00  He made one, tasted it and dumped it and started over for me. I was like, what was wrong with that one? He's like, it was, it didn't it didn't settle. It wasn't the right flavor. It was burnt, so whatever the heck it was he was like, no, I'm not serving you this.Lesley Logan 9:14  We're not even doing a great job, because we don't even know the name of the place. But you know what? If you come to Leeds, Brad will take you. Brad Crowell 9:22  I'll take you. Lesley Logan 9:22  Okay, so opc.me/uk, to snag your spots there. Then we come home. Our besties are visiting us from Florida. Yeah, we're gonna unpack the cold weather clothes we took and put hot weather clothes back in a suitcase and be in Cambodia. Oh, my God, I can't wait for the humidity to be on this skin after all of the Summer Tour and and U.K. like, no offense, but like, I I live for humidity. Like I am. Everyone's like, I love a dry heat. You have no idea what you're talking about. Humid heat is way better for your skin, for the youthfulness, for your hair. Everything is better. So crowsnestretreats.com if you would like to have humidity on your skin and spend time with us in an epic place, see the temples, come to our house, do Pilates. Brad Crowell 10:06  Take a break from all the chaos. Lesley Logan 10:07  Figure out your self-care routine. I will help you with that. I will help you bring out your dream schedule. Anyways, before we get into the amazing episode with Margot, we have an audience question. Brad Crowell 10:18  We sure do, two questions, actually, from Caroline on IG, thank you, Caroline for asking. Number one is, hi, can you recommend a great pair of undies for Pilates or leggings? I read this before and forgot. I always notice a print when I get off my reformer. Lesley Logan 10:37  Yeah. Brad Crowell 10:37  Okay. Lesley Logan 10:38  Yeah. Brad Crowell 10:38  I can't, Caroline but, I know someone who can. Lesley Logan 10:42  Okay, we, remember when we got this question on YouTube. We're like, do we go live about this? I'm like, oh my God, what weirdos are gonna show up for the live? It's like, my favorite underwear for Pilates. So here's the thing. I like, EBY they're they have a type of of of underwear that is (inaudible). We have, right? We have a video.Brad Crowell 11:07  I didn't know how to find it, so I just went to YouTube and I searched Lesley Logan underwear, and the video comes up.Lesley Logan 11:13  Perfect, perfect, perfect. I wish they had millions of views. It probably doesn't, but anyways, so I like those because they're nice and thin under my leggings, so they don't leave a mark. Like when I'm walking around, you can't see my underwear, which is like a big deal to me. I don't know why we are obsessed with this, but I'm obsessed with people not seeing the outline of my underwear, probably from purity culture life. I have no idea. Anyways, the other reason I like it is if, ladies, you don't know this, but if your underwear covers your butt and then you put leggings on it, that is why you're losing your pants on stomach massage. So I like that also, you know the reason, another reason I like EBY is because I'm I am a sweater, and I don't really like when your like underwear doesn't keep you dry from and so otherwise, like your pants are wet, where your underwear is. I like my underwear keep me dry as much as possible, so that I have like, sweat, like on my thighs, but not in my crotch. So anyways, that's my favorite for that. Otherwise. Brad Crowell 12:12  What did you say it is? Lesley Logan 12:14  Think they're called EBY. Brad Crowell 12:15  And they're from. Lesley Logan 12:17  EBY underwear. Brad Crowell 12:18  Oh, that's the company. Lesley Logan 12:19  Yeah, yeah, it's EBY women seamless yeah, that's the one I like. Brad Crowell 12:24  All right, we're gonna put a link in the show notes for that.Lesley Logan 12:27  Yeah, yeah. So anyway, oh, they're having a sale. I should get some more. Brad Crowell 12:30  Thanks, Caroline. Lesley Logan 12:31  Thanks, Caroline. She had another question, though.Brad Crowell 12:34  Yes. Caroline had a second question. She said hey, do you have a shake plate that you recommend? Lesley Logan 12:40  I do. we'll put. Brad Crowell 12:41  I had a feeling,Lesley Logan 12:42  We'll put a link in the show notes, because I don't know the brand name, to be honest, but I love this thing I get on mine.Brad Crowell 12:51  It also wasn't, like, outrageously expensive. It wasn't nothing but it wasn't like a million dollars. Lesley Logan 12:51  It's like, it ranges from like, a little over 100 to about 150 and I think depends on the color or the time of year. But, like, honestly, it, it's something that, if I'm like, oh. Brad Crowell 13:08  Well, let's talk about what, what is a shake plate and why do you do it? Lesley Logan 13:12  Okay, so it kind of is a shake plate is kind of like a spin on the power plate. Power plate would be the brand and Power Plates I have experienced. Brad Crowell 13:19  Those big metal silver-looking ones that are, like, you know, two and a half feet wide. You can do a handstand on those. Lesley Logan 13:19  Oh, yeah, you can do some great stretches on those. My trainers at Equinox will, like, go here and do your pigeon stretch. And it, like, would really help with my running, help with my hips. I mean, I don't know all this. Here's thing, you guys, I don't know all the scientific facts are on it. But, like, I can say that Power Plates are really, really epic. And they can, like, turn your muscles on and off in such a way that it's like a full workout. In fact, in Vegas, there's a place called Vibe 28 that's literally workouts on a Power Plate. Brad Crowell 13:52  I didn't know that. Lesley Logan 13:52  And it's like they even do like, like a meditation class on them. So you like, just do different stretches on them. It's really quite cool. I will say they made me put a like, a band, a booty band, around my legs, and do squats on that thing. And I was like, oh my God, I thought I was in shape. No, no, no, no. It's like, what? It's like intense. And you that's, there's a reason why it's like only 28 minutes. You definitely don't want to work out longer than that. So it can be really effective but the reason I got one is because it can also be really good for lymphatic drainage, and it really good for balance and stability. And so I have my ankles are really hyper mobile, and my muscles around my knees have been really hard for me to, like turn on. And so I got one because you can just stand on it, and I swear, I swear it's doing something for lymphatic drainage, like my girlfriends and I just like, live by that. I have another girlfriend who, like, had some back stuff, and she just put it on, like, the lowest level and sat on it and her back felt better. So, like, that, that's amazing. So anyways, I get on mine, and I literally will, like, do Slack for 15 minutes, or I'll read a book. Yes, I can read a book while shaking. I'm also very tall. I could like my arms aren't shaking. The rest of me is. I play a video game on there. On my days where I don't want to work out, but I've got time on my hands, I get on there and I do it. Sometimes I just put my legs on it, and it feels really good. I have literally Googled multiple times, is standing on my shake plate at all beneficial? And the answer is yes. Now, of course, it's more beneficial if you do like a plank or a squat, but I play around my different foot positions, and my ankles are much more stable. My medial quad is actually turning on. I think it's been really fun for my lymphatic drainage around my center. So I love my shake plate. Big fan, yeah, total, yeah. So anyways, and it doesn't take a lot of space. One of my girlfriends lives in like, a tiny, like, studio apartment. My got one, and she's like, I do it twice a day, every day. So some of us now, like, do, like, we like, take pictures of ourselves send to each other, like, I'm on mine. Oh, I'm on mine. So now it's for like, a little club. Brad Crowell 16:00  That's funny. That's fun. I've even done it, too. I do enjoy it. It definitely first time you do it, you're gonna feel a little bit like, numb getting off of it afterwards. Don't turn it up that high your first time.Lesley Logan 16:12  There's programs and literally, start with the first program. And also a little side note that I would do, I was like, oh, every day I'm just gonna do the next program up. No, that is not how you get used to it. I recommend like doing program one for a few days and program two for a few days because I made my psoas so fucking sore, I had to stretch, so.Brad Crowell 16:12  Well, anyway, Caroline, we'll put that link in the show notes so you can check it out. Hey, look, if you have a question at all for anything, or about anything or whatever go to beitpod.com/questions, beitpod.com/questions and you can leave us a question or a win. So if you want to be featured on the FYFs for Friday's episodes.Lesley Logan 16:55  Your win could be that you bought yourself a shake plate and you did your first 15 minutes of self-care on it. Brad Crowell 17:01  All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk to talk about Margot McNaull in just a minute. Brad Crowell 17:09  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about Margot McNaull. Margot is the founder of Stór by Margot, a bespoke fine jewelry company born from her own journey of designing her engagement ring in India. With no formal background in jewelry design, she turned her natural eye and personal experience into a thriving business helping women create meaningful, deeply personal pieces today, her work centers around empowering women to own their worth, often through designing their own legacy jewelry that tells their story, and that's what most of the episode was actually about. Was about worth and worthiness, and, you know why you would buy a ring for yourself, and conversations that happen in the home, you know, in a family, usually a married couple. You know, it was interesting. It was interesting. I, you know, I, I thought, I don't know. I've never really, I'm not really the guy that's out there trying to buy myself a ring, but if I wanted to buy a ring, I would probably save up the money and go buy the ring. But that's not how the conversation traditionally goes. Lesley Logan 18:14  No. I mean, also, like, even while the ring, that the beautiful ring I have, I literally told someone to tell you. Brad Crowell 18:20  I have no idea what you just said. Lesley Logan 18:24  My engagement ring that you got me, I made sure people in my life knew what I wanted, because we well, because you had said, don't talk to me about getting married. So I was like, well, how am I going to tell him about the ring I want if I don't can't talk about getting married. So I just made sure all of my friends who you knew knew which ring I wanted. Brad Crowell 18:40  I don't remember that that's how the story went.Lesley Logan 18:42  No. The story goes, you asked my friend for my ring size. He said, oh, I can tell you what ring she wants. Brad Crowell 18:46  Yes, because he had it from, like, a year before.Lesley Logan 18:48  Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was before, yeah. So anyways, I knew what I wanted. The point is, around here, we just buy that ourselves, the thing we want, but I do have tons of friends who won't put a ring on their their wedding ring finger, because they that's saving of her then. Or they, they they want something, but then they they compromise, or they don't have the it's a whole thing. And so she's just a big person like, buy the thing that you want and buy the ring that you want, and that because you're worthy of it, and not waiting for a partner or waiting for external people to tell other people outside of you, to tell you what what ring you should have, or what you're worth, or things like that. I think it's really cool. And I also she said she was observing that women often struggle to buy fine jewelry for themselves, not because of money, but because they don't feel like they're worthy of it. Because, like you said, I would just save up the money and go get it. A lot of people will save up the money and then feel bad about like that. They're not like, oh, I shouldn't have spent all that money on that thing this, like, like.Brad Crowell 19:47  I mean, I get that, you know. Like, I definitely understand that, you know, I saved up money for a pair of glasses that I was like, wow, these are really expensive, and I literally wear them every day now, and I'm like, proud of myself for doing it.Lesley Logan 19:59  Yeah, don't you feel you feel good. Brad Crowell 20:01  I like them. Lesley Logan 20:01  Yeah. I mean, I love our car. It feels really cool to be in that car. I feel very worthy of that car, you know, like, now we had to save up for it. We have to wait, like, it's it was an expense, but, like, I think.Brad Crowell 20:12  We waited 10 fucking years. Lesley Logan 20:14  I fucking did, yeah, I did, but I, I wanted to have her on because I actually feel like we have a lot of listeners who are that person who has, has saved up the money, or does have it and and maybe feels a little guilty, like, oh, I shouldn't be spending on me. It should be spent on the kids, or I should be I should be doing X, or should be doing y. And it's like, you know, if you saved up that money one time, you probably could do it again, and you could probably spend it on them then that time. But so she she reflects on her own deeper journey, and that she even like while she was running her business, she was going through her own journey of self-doubt and realizing of self-worth. And so she had to go into it and realize, where do I feel like how do I feel about my worth? And so I also thought that this is really cool, because oftentimes it doesn't have to do with the ring. If you don't feel worthy, it's going to translate in other areas of your life.Brad Crowell 21:03  Yeah. And had nothing to do with the ring, nothing to do with the ring. Well, you know, when she's talking about, I think the conclusion of the worthy conversation was, it was it was an interesting back and forth between you and her about your experience working in retail and jewelry and seeing how couples would come in, and obviously they influence each other, but not just couples, like, friends, and then the person who wanted the, the one was doing the shopping would be influenced by the friend, and maybe the thing like and the friend might not have self-worth. So then they're, you know, projecting their insecurity on the decision-making process. And it could talk someone out of doing something that they were trying to do for themselves. And so what I thought was neat about her thing was she said, you know, the only person that's gonna make you feel worthy is you, yeah, that's interesting, but it also makes me, you know, like, is there an exercise? How do we do that? How do we feel worthy? How do we help ourselves feel worthy? Lesley Logan 21:52  I think that's a really interesting question. I think, like, also part of it is going back to, like a Nikole Mitchell, you know, like it's like putting Post-Its around your your your house, like, I am worthy of liking things. I am worthy of having this. I am worthy of reaching the goals that I want to have. Like it doesn't have to be I'm worthy of the stuff I want to buy, put it on. I'm worthy of get seven hours of sleep. I'm worthy of 100 grams of protein. I'm worthy of saying no to people coming over on a Tuesday night. I'm worthy of my time. So start with there.Brad Crowell 22:49  So we're not having dinner with them? Just kidding. Lesley Logan 22:50  Yeah. But like, I think, I think it comes from actually saying it out loud and saying it around things you can't have cognitive dissonance around. So like, if buying yourself expensive sunglasses or car or whatever is feels a dissonance to you, you have stuff that you still have to unpack and work through, then start with something smaller. I'm worthy of eight glasses of water a day, right? I am worthy.Brad Crowell 23:18  Or I'm worthy of a pay raise. You know, like, this is actually, you know, one of the things that that I really that resonated a lot with me is a topic that I get the chance to talk about a lot, which is money, right, and money when, especially with Pilates instructors, there's this weird stigma that Pilates is expensive, so you must be taking advantage of people when you're teaching. And then we shame ourselves into being like, oh, you know, I only teach a few hours a week, you know, so it's not that much money I'm making. And we have this weird, upside down perspective of, you know, the industry that we're in, the people that we serve, what we're doing, how much time and money we invested in getting trained, all this stuff, and then we adopt this, this like, strange mindset around the income that we're making, yeah, and so I've had this really interesting opportunity over the last year to talk about money on a consistent basis through a webinar that I've been hosting. And, you know, unabashedly talk about the desire to get more money, to make more money, and and but not be weird about it, right? We're not out there, like, championing, like, money for the sake of money. That's not the point. One of the things that I've really enjoyed is, in this the webinar is actually future-casting. Right? So taking a moment closing our eyes and actually thinking down the road, right? When we talk about money in these webinars, I actually talk about something that's like, scarily, like, almost like, it feels scary to even be willing to dream about it. It's about doubling your money, doubling your income. So, like, let's say you're making $35,000 a year. Could you make $70,000 a year with Pilates, you know? And. And the answer is, yes, you could. But why? Why would you want to do that, right? And I think the glib and obvious answer is, because I can get more money. But that's not the point. The point is, what are you going to do with that money? And then what are we doing with that? Like, how is that helping us shift our life to be better and more enjoyable? Easier, like, we it puts us in a position to go do something else that we want to do.Lesley Logan 25:25  Yeah, I mean, like, because, if you I mean to go back to that, the worthiness of it's like, okay, I want to make $70,000 because, but why? So I want to be able to pay for my kid to go to summer camp. I want to be able to have money in savings. I want to be able to do X, Y and Z. I want to donate to this thing. I want to do this thing right. Okay, so then it's not that. Brad Crowell 25:48  Or even it could be I want to create a life for myself that allows me a breather, a break, so I don't have to be going 90 miles an hour.Lesley Logan 25:58  And I think if we were all to say I am worthy of having a life that gives me a break. What selfish is about that? So, like. Brad Crowell 26:06  In the same vein, you know, let's translate that over to buying things. Yeah, why do we buy things, right? Why do we buy a nice car? Why do we, you know, I don't know, put in a pool? Why do we buy fancy sunglasses that cost $500 you know, which seems like absurd, you can buy a same pair of sunglasses for $12. Why do we do that? Like, like, how do we do that and justify that without, you know, feeling like an asshole, right? Lesley Logan 26:33  Well, I think the interesting word there is justify. I don't think anyone I think that.Brad Crowell 26:37  Well, there's a story we tell ourselves in our head, right? And I think that it's like, if, especially if we don't feel worthy of it, then we're justified, then we're justified.Lesley Logan 26:45  Yeah. But if you feel worthy, you don't have to justify anything, because it's it goes to the person who goes, oh, it must be nice. And the response, the only response, to it must be nice is it really is. It is. Thank you. It is because we have to. We, that has been trained into people for years and years to keep you poor. That's what it is every time someone has told their kids that money doesn't grow on trees, putting the same as point earned, you know, you, like, the justification of things that is to keep youth playing small. If you play small, then there, then the rich can keep getting richer off of you playing small, of you not demanding the pay raise, of you not charging your actual worth. Because, by the way, for the Pilates instructors who are listening, I just had a huge talk on both an AR Agency office hours and the next day instead of eLevate and I was like, on a pedestal, I couldn't get off of it. And I was like, y'all have to have some courage and conviction. Like most of the problems that this goes for anyone you don't have to be a Pilates instructor, is you don't realize all the hours you haven't sat down and counted all the hours of all the time you spent learning what you do, train on what you do, practicing what you do, teaching what you do. And you're thinking, oh, I'm pricing something for the 55 minutes I'm teaching them. No, you're not. That price is based on your entire past building up to it. And by the way, the future you're giving them, that's what that session, that the present that they're paying for, it's for your expertise and what they get in the future. And I think that's where worthiness comes in, is like, what can you do? Do you need to sit down and write down all the things that you know throughout realize you're worthy of asking for that pay raise? What is it going to take? But you can't ask other people for why you're worthy. You have to sit down and do some digging on yourself. This has to come from inside you, and it has and and the external stuff and the ring or the car, whatever. That's later, because some people like material things and some people don't. According to my astrology signs, I like material things, and I don't disagree with that.Brad Crowell 28:51  I could have told you that the day I met you. Yeah, but, but honestly, that's the thing. Here's the thing, it's okay to like material things. It's okay. We're allowed to do it. I don't know, you know, we feel guilty about it because of, for me, it was the way I was raised. Right? Is, is that, you know, the the money mindset element of it, and so, like, buying something really expensive was always out of the question. It was never even considered, right, ever, but, but like with, with the ring, like, if you want, if it's like, something that is going that means something to you, it's kind of like we were talking about tattoos, right. Like, if, if there is a sentimental association with it, you know, and you it's a goal you achieved in your life. Like, we've, we've, we've a friend we've mentioned before, when she wins a case, she buys a purse, or she buys the glasses, or she buys the thing, and she says, you know? And here's ironically, ironically, her dad not shaming him, but his response is always like, you still spent the money to buy the thing. Lesley Logan 29:56  And also, she doesn't get a pay raise when she wins. Brad Crowell 29:56  Right. It's not like she's getting a pay raise. Lesley Logan 29:57  No, she get the same amount whether she wins or loses.Brad Crowell 30:01  She, like, she's like, when I when this case goes, when it when the case concludes, then I get to buy the thing, right. And I think it's great. They're like, they're like, milestones of her life, you know.Lesley Logan 30:12  Yeah, yeah. I really agree. And I just want to, like, go on this one thing when it comes to some of the material possessions, especially a piece of jewelry that is something that one you wearing every day, so it's a physical reminder of of why you thought you're worthy of that. And then two, and Margot talked about this, you do often give it to someone, like, we don't have children, but I imagine Ella will like all of my jewelry. If Meredith has a daughter, we'll have to figure it out. But like, I imagine that like our niece Ella, she likes to wear pretty princess stuff. I imagine she'll like my things.Brad Crowell 30:51  I'm sure she will. Well, thanks for going down that journey with us here. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into some Be It Action Items that you discussed with Margot McNaull. Brad Crowell 30:58  All right here let's talk about those Be It Action Items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Margot McNaull? Don't give up on yourself, she said, right? To go through what you need to go through, to go through to be that strong, that's successful, that whatever you have to go through some pretty dark valleys, right? It's not just like it's just kind of inherently built into life. We all know this, right? But don't give up. Don't give up on yourself. She said, look at things in a way that other people maybe they don't want to. It's easier not to dig into these things, to look at these things, then you're gonna, you're gonna come out. And if you, if you, if you give up, right, you're gonna come out with a less powerful message, okay, let's put some actual context into what this vagueness that we're talking about here, don't give up on yourself, right? If you, you're allowed to fail, okay, but if you fail, let's keep going. So for example, maybe it is going to bed earlier or just getting up earlier, or maybe it is, you know, eating food, that is, you know, like, maybe you may always skip breakfast, and you're like, I want us to eat breakfast because I know it's going to jump start my metabolism, whatever, right, you know, like, like, okay, like, how do we how do we do this? How do we actually make this habit, create this habit? And we could talk about habit-building later, but, you know, it doesn't have to be this huge, epic goal. It can be these smaller things, and that's such a great place to start to build that, that habit. Lesley Logan 32:33  Yeah. And if you miss a day, it's not failure. You start, you drink, eat your breakfast later, start again. Celebrate that you thought about it. Brad Crowell 32:41  Yeah. What about you? Lesley Logan 32:42  Okay, so this is really cool. This made me think of Joanna, whose last name is escaping me, but she was in the second year the podcast was out, and she had to be an action about wearing the shoes, just like buy the shoes.Brad Crowell 32:55  Johanna White. Johanna White. Episode 171.Lesley Logan 33:00  Nailed it. She always said, buy the shoes and wear them, right? And so this particular Be It Action Item makes me think of that. She said, you can take your old jewelry and have it revamped and have it transformed and and sometimes that's like the permission that a lot of us need. It's like, oh, we're not buying a new thing because we have these old things, but we're not wearing the old things. Are we not as proud of old things? And you can actually just revamp the old things and now it's new again. And so if you have an old an old thing, you know, like, consider revamping it because you are worthy of it, yeah.Brad Crowell 33:35  Or maybe it was at a family heirloom that's like, you know, cool and amazing and sentimental, but not hip and fun and funky that you'd wear all the time. Maybe you could have something tweaked on that, and it would all sudden fit your personality today. So love that you have our permission to make changes to things.Lesley Logan 33:53  And walk around. I am worthy of, I'm worthy of, I'm worthy of, fill in the blank for yourself. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 33:58  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 33:59  Thank you so much for listening to our amazing podcast. Yes, I said our podcast is amazing because it fucking is. Brad Crowell 34:05  We're worthy of it being amazing. Lesley Logan 34:06  I'm so proud of it. This is episode 554, you guys. Holy mackerel. So do me a huge favor and share one of your favorite episodes with a friend who needs to hear it. It's how this podcast gets out. It means the world to me. It is the like a great gift to me and Brad. And a review goes a long way, because words of affirmation are my love language. So I've asked for two things. Thank you so much, asked for three, actually. And you know, just do one of them. You don't have to be an overachiever. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 34:36  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 34:38  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Margot McNaull didn't plan to be a jewelry designer, but creating her own engagement ring sparked a mission to empower women through fine jewelry. She joins Lesley Logan to explore self-worth, the symbolism of rings, and why you don't need permission to craft heirlooms that celebrate your life. Margot's story will inspire you to see jewelry as a bold declaration of who you are.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:What sparked Margot's shift from consumer to jewelry designer.What she's learned about self-worth through her own life journey.The psychological barrier of asking permission to invest in yourself.How the Ring Transformations program helps women reclaim their style.Why crafting heirlooms celebrates the important moments in your life.Episode References/Links:Stór by Margot Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/storbymargotStór by Margot Website - https://www.storbymargot.com Margot McNaull's Website - https://www.margotmcnaull.comGuest Bio:Margot McNaull is the founder of Legacy – the luxury ring experience where she empowers women to live a life of legacy. With nearly ten years in the fine jewelry industry and having worked closely with thousands of women, I've witnessed firsthand the transformative moment when a woman finds the ring she's always dreamed of. Margot started her jewelry design journey in the wedding world, collaborating with countless couples to honor and celebrate a pivotal milestone. However, she soon realized that the ring held a deeper significance. It symbolized a moment, a longing—a reflection of the woman who wore it, beyond just a gift from someone else. Margot's passion quickly deepened as she realized her desire to serve every woman who crossed her path. She wanted each one to feel represented in the ring design, to recognize their worth, and to know that every creation was inspired by them. Inspired by this vision, came the Legacy Experience. 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And so I just think, if you do that for yourself first, before getting into a wedding ring, you're not going to compromise on that wedding ring either. You're going to know what you're doing. Lesley Logan 0:15  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:58  Hello, Be It babe. How are you? We're going to talk about a topic that you might not think has anything to do with being it until you see it. We're talking about jewelry. We're talking about rings. We're going to talk about buying the ring for you, right? And if you're like, oh that, I don't need to do that right now, I would strongly encourage you to listen to it. I think we had a great discussion about worthiness and permission versus discussion. And my single ladies like, what are we waiting for? Right? Why are we waiting for a person to come to our life put a ring on that finger? So it was really fun. It's really powerful. And I know when you see Margot McNaull's Instagram and see all the different ways that she designs rings, I think you'll be inspired to really create your own legacy with that. So here is Margot McNaull. Lesley Logan 0:58  All right, Be It babe, this is really fun. This is a conversation I've been wanting to have for a really long time ever since I met our guest today. It's going to be fun. We've never talked about jewelry and diamonds and worthiness to buy our own. So, Margot McNaull, thank you so much for being here. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Margot McNaull 1:55  Absolutely, thanks for having me. So I'm Margot. I started a fine jewelry company about 10 years ago, and I went straight into a big need I saw on the market, which was cookie cutter jewelry pieces and mass produced jewelry pieces, which I absolutely hated. And I, actually, when I was about to get engaged, now, I guess that's like 13 years ago now, I'm getting old.Lesley Logan 2:20  No, not at all. No, because I, I will be married this year, 10 years, and then I'm not getting old yet. Margot McNaull 2:25  There you go. We're not, we're young, we're young. But yeah, I said to my then boyfriend, I said, I don't want you to buy me a ring in North America. I'm Canadian, so we were in Canada. I said, don't buy me a ring in Canada. I want to go to India. I want to buy a ring. And he's like, okay, you know, he doesn't know anything, but he was happy to let me choose because he knew he could never. So we went to India, designed my ring, and I had the most special experience, because I got to select everything myself. And for, you know, listeners who don't know, India is like the Mecca of jewelry. That's where it all flows from. They cut most of the diamonds in the world. They're the experts. So by saying India, we're not saying, like, you know, it's not cheapening anything. It's actually, they value jewelry so much that they, they don't even manufacture 10 karat gold. They don't think that's gold. So, yeah, it's fascinating. So I go there, design it. I'm like, in love with the process, and then I come back and I see all these cookie cutter pieces, and I wanted women to have the experience I had, and that's what actually made me start the business. I was I was not in this at all. I didn't plan to be in it. My own engagement ring design led me to this, and that's how I started in the jewelry world.Lesley Logan 3:38  I mean, what a cool, first of all, I think what a great story to have together with your just your jewelry, your ring alone. I think that there is, there is so much around the ring that should have a good story, and then for you to, like, go into this business after that, having no experience like you went to school for, like, metal making or like, what did, you know what I mean, like, were you nervous about it? Did you, did it feel like a big learning curve? What was the, what was it like to go from like, okay, I designed my own ring, but now I've got to design for other people, so now I'm ordering for like, how was that? How did you do that? How was that journey? Margot McNaull 4:16  Yeah, that was a really intense journey, because it really brought out the self-doubt in me. And the best way to explain what I do to people is it's like the interior designer coming in and making it beautiful after the architect, you know, put up the house. So I'm a little bit of both. I create the structure, I design the structure and how it's going to look, but the what makes our rings and jewelry so unique is actually the little tweaks that I make. It's the, it's, you know, how I see it, and you don't actually need to be a goldsmith for that. And I, what I realize now further along in, is I actually have something very rare and unique. And there are a lot of metal workers out there, and there are a lot of people making jewelry out there that don't have that eye and don't have that ability to make something so like, you know, tweak it in just a way. Like, just today, I flipped the three stone ring, pretty unique custom ring for a client who happens to be a wedding photographer. So of course, she's like, pretty picky about what she wants. Lesley Logan 5:07  Because she's seen it all. She's seen everything. Margot McNaull 5:19  Exactly. So she's like, I do not want that. So she's doing this very cool, unique ring. And I just took, I just flipped it. So all I did was like, go one I saw it I'm like, no, I don't love it. Something's wrong. And I flipped it. And I was like, wow. So these are the little things that I realized a long, you know, it took me a long time to overcome the self-doubt, because I would look around, I would feel like I don't know anything. I don't know what I'm doing, but I think all of that stuff actually made me better at it. But yes, it was a very intense emotional learning curve, I would say. Lesley Logan 5:49  Yeah, because I think like, so here's, this is how I'm going to equate it to my life. Like, I booked commercials and gigs in in L.A. before I took a commercial acting class. Soon as I took the commercial acting class, I went on a string of, like, zero callbacks, and I finally had to go, my agent was like, girl, what is going on? You booked a bunch of stuff before you had any skill, and we gave you skill, and now you suck. And I was, that's how they they actually say things more meaner and more direct. And I said, I said, I think that the class screwed me up. I think I started thinking I had to do it in this form you lay it way when I was just being myself before with what was going on. So I'm just gonna forget everything gal taught me and try again. And I booked a couple more gigs. And then I was like, I don't actually really like this, so I'm gonna quit, but, but, like, I think that, you know, we can tell ourselves a story that we have to, oh, I want to start a jewelry business now. I need to go and take all these jewelry classes, and actually, by you owning that you see, like owning your own eye, and not putting about, like, putting your worthiness on the education or the history of jewelry-making by you just owning what your own skill sets were from your own intuition is what makes you so unique and what makes your experience so unique. Margot McNaull 7:12  Absolutely, it, once you can get there, it's awesome, but, I mean, I can, I know a lot of women struggle with this. I'm right there with you, like, you know, the learning curve and the doubt and overcoming all of that is very difficult. I think it's why a lot of people quit in business as well.Lesley Logan 7:28  Yeah, how did, so, do you, do you remember what your tools were to overcome it? Was it just like deep therapy? Was it journaling? Like, what?Margot McNaull 7:36  Honestly, great question. I feel like it took me a long time, because maybe I didn't implement like, I probably could have had some better tools and done it faster. But what it took me towards, and, you know, I feel like in 10 more years, I'm going to have this amazing story to share about what I'm just entering right now. But when I just started, so I went right into the wedding side of things. I was like, I want to work with engaged couples. Now I'm way more excited, not way more. I love working with women. So now we've really tailored the women, whether it is a woman designing her engagement ring,woman designing something for herself. But back then, I was all wedding, so I went into it thinking, I'm going to make a really cool experience for women to feel special that they have this unique piece that's theirs. The jewelry company is called Stór by Margot, which is a Gaelic word, S-T-O-R which is, my treasure. I wanted them to feel like it was their treasure and it wasn't just another piece from the mall that three other women are wearing at the same time. So I go into that, but it actually completely knocks me off my feet as I'm going through my own journey of self-doubt and realizing, you know, self-worth because it there's actually a really deep psychological issue that appears when women are looking at jewelry and talking to you about jewelry, and it is that they don't feel like they're worthy of it. And this is something that then I had to go into and realize, where do I feel, like, where do I stand? Where's my, how do I feel about my worth? Pretty low. And this is like, years into being married. Have a great husband, great family, but those things aren't going to make you feel worthy. They might help you feel good, but the only person who's going to make you feel worthy is you. And that's why I feel like it took me a really long time to kind of get out of that, but I think it brought me to this conversation, which is exciting, and I'm and I want to spend kind of the rest of my life doing is, you know, talking to women about how worthy they are. And I guess that's the benefit of the slow journey just uncovering. And like I said, I just wanted women to feel happy and excited. And now I see all of the nuances that you should see in my appointments. You can see the in the relational interactions and the doubts and the hesitations. You know. Versus the women who are like in and they're like, this is what I want. I'm getting it. I know I'm strong and but even those women have their moments, right, where you can see through it and but all of it is, I think, how you feel about yourself. Lesley Logan 10:13  Yeah, I, 100% I so agree. I, thank you for sharing that. I think it is. I used to work at a jewelry store. And my jewelry store was, it wasn't like just diamonds. It was more like unique ways of working with diamonds and stones. And so some of our designers, like Kathy Waterman, who, like, makes platinum or 22 karat gold, it looks like ivy that makes the shape of a heart, and this really unique stuff. So, like, even though she would make a few of those pieces, it felt very unique. And so it was really fun. But I would watch women come in by themselves and go, oh, this is a piece that makes me feel so special. And then they might come with their partner or a friend or a family member, and that person's interpret, like, they would almost change how they like something based on if that person would think they were spending too much money, or you're never gonna wear it, or, you know, like that, you can make that far cheaper, like all these different things from the other person's story. And then there'd be the women who came and go, I really love this. They'd write it down. The husband just come in, go, she wants that. That's gonna make her happy. That's exactly, like, so you could see these different relationships. And because I worked at that store for so long, I saw those relationships evolve together or evolve apart, you know, because, and it was really the more she felt firm at what she wanted, and the more it's not like, and I don't mean it's like, he buys her whatever she wants, or she buys for herself whatever, but like, the more confident she was, and the more, the more the partner validated that confidence and validate what they wanted, that, that actually allowed those relationships to be stronger together. And it was just really cool to watch. So my favorite people were the ones that didn't wait for someone to buy it for them, the ones they bought it for themselves. So I want to talk about that, because I know that's where your business has evolved. And our mutual friend, Lauren Zoeller, who's been on the show before, y'all, she designed a piece with you, and I really enjoyed the story of why she got that piece. So can we talk a little bit about why, why you're so excited about women mining their own diamond and like not waiting for the one ring with the one person that.Margot McNaull 12:23  So true. Okay, I love this topic so much. And like I said, our business, there's part of our business that's always going to be rooted in that one ring, because it's, it's a specialty. But where I am personally moving towards is this legacy experience of women designing a piece for themselves, and this is all rooted in what we just talked about. And the concept of the experience is we're going to walk through your own personal journey, and we're going to take all of the tidbits and pieces out of that, and I'm going to do my thing and put that into your final piece, you know, which, which I do think most of the time is going to be a ring, because the main, the good thing about a ring is you see it, right? Because you're using your hands, you're looking at it. It's a reminder, versus a necklace. You don't see that much yourself, right, unless you're looking in the mirror. So there's something about a ring that is so powerful, and it's also seems to be the thing that's always passed down, right? So creating a legacy beyond just something that you know is going to be passed down is almost honoring your journey. And what do you want to do with your life, and what you know, what story do you want to leave at the end, and just encouraging and honoring women to walk through that process and not be afraid to do that, and not like you said, tame themselves because they don't think that they're worthy to do it, or the opinion of someone else. And so what was really great about doing that with Lauren is, you know, she knows, she knows what she wants, she, she's not letting somebody else come in there and tell her what to do. And we got to create this beautiful moment of this big transition in her life, of a ring that actually goes back and the story that came out when we were talking together was just how important her grandmother was in her life, and then we got to put that into the final touches of her ring, and it's going to be her symbol forever, of her mission and how she wants to honor her grandmother. And her grandmother almost called that out in her life when she was younger, and she didn't even know what that meant at the time. So this whole experience of and then working like, I love what you said, because most people haven't worked at a jewelry store, when someone can come in and give themselves permission to just do what they want is a completely different experience and outcome. And going ahead and saying, I deserve it. I want to design my own piece. You know, whether it's a legacy experience, whether you just come one on one, say, I'm finally going to do the thing I wanted to do is very empowering. And there is something about jewelry that I mean, jewelry is one of the only things that lasts, if you think about it, right. There's something about gold and stones and where they come from, and they, they last forever, yeah, and it's really special. Lesley Logan 15:02  Yeah. I think, like, I think that's one of the things, like, what I love about what you're doing, why I wanted to talk with you on the show, is, like, we have so many women listeners. Some of them are in a wonderful relationship, some of them are on their own, and they're, as someone who has a lot of, a lot of amazing jewelry, and I get to look at it. I walk into my room all the time. I wear as many rings as possible because I just, it reminds me of who I am, but also like, yes, there is something that I do. I have no children, but I do hope that someday, you know, when I'm not here for this earth, people will will use my jewelry in different ways, or it will remind them of me. But there's something about having in my jewelry box, I have, like, my grandmother's engagement ring, and I have my father's wedding band. I have these things, and I like want to do something with them at some point someday. But there's just something about, like, we have these things that it has that memory. And if you can create something that is from you, that has all of your worthiness, and then you put it on your finger, and you get to look at it every day. It's like a symbol of reminding of who you are and the worthiness that you have. And I think it can be really easy. We've a lot of people have been raised in material possessions are like a waste of time, but actually, like, sometimes it's the only memory we have of somebody like having, like having built that in and put that together like you did with Lauren, like having that that grandmother's touch inside, kind of brings that legacy around and brings that worthiness, and like you're putting them together, I will say this quick little story. It has nothing to do with diamonds, but does have to do with the ring. We're recording this during the L.A. fires, and on my Instagram the other day the these firefighters were like searching this realist come up, this firefighters are searching in this house for another firefighter. His house burned down while he was fighting someone else, the fire somewhere else, his house burned down, and they found his wedding ring because he wasn't wearing it when he was fighting the fires. He left it at home. And they figured out what part of the house it might be at, and they search through the rubble, and they pull out this ring. And it was so emotional, because, like, they've lost everything, right? They have nothing, but they do have that. And it's just, I'm crying now because, like, even though it's not their, a diamond ring, it's this piece, it's like, gives them some sort of, like, semblance of stability and hope and memories and all that stuff that encompasses it. So I, I really do think that jewelry can have so much more than a material possession. It can have all of you, your history, your life, your journey into a piece. Lesley Logan 17:32  Absolutely, that's such a beautiful story, especially because, oh my goodness, especially because that's a miracle, because it should have melted. So that's kind of insane.Lesley Logan 17:40  Kind of insane, that, like, it should have melted it, right, it was like, in the rubble of a house, there's nothing left, and they found this band, and it's fine, and he put it on his finger and like, and he's and he's like, he's like, he's like, what's your wife gonna say? He's like, well, she didn't know I lost it yet. So now I have to tell her, it's found. But so cute, so cute, so special. Margot McNaull 18:03  So cute.Lesley Logan 18:05  So okay, so tell me, tell us a little bit more, because I think that some people may get overwhelmed by the idea of, like, designing a ring and worthiness. Let's talk about like, what, if we were to do that with you what's the process? How do we make it less overwhelming? How do we, how do we and I guess maybe even, like, what are some things that women should go through to even give themselves permission to do this? Maybe that's a better place to start. Margot McNaull 18:29  Okay, I really love that question, because I, there's one thing that we can all really relate to, and that is, you know, there's no, nobody hesitates now, it's they're, you're like, I want that handbag. I'm buying that handbag in six months. Or, you know, I need a Chanel in my closet like it's everyone has permission now to go and buy these very, very extravagant bags, right? Much more expensive ones than that. And there's no question. Nobody says, I'm not worthy of buying an Hermes bag. Right? So they've overcome that hurdle. But when it comes to diamonds, there's something that stops us. And there, and honestly, I talk a lot, obviously I talk about jewelry a lot, and now it bugs me every time it happens, everybody says, oh, I'll tell my partner, I'll tell my husband, I'll ask them for it. And it's, this is still a thing. It's like we don't feel like we have permission to buy it for ourself yet, right? Sure, a $200 silver ring you're gonna buy for yourself. But why, when you're celebrating something so big, do you not feel like I want that eternity band, you know, like I'm buying that for myself. Or even women, my goodness, well, the idea of the push present, it's like they're still not even asking for their push presents, it's like you almost died putting your kid into this world, at least get her the diamond. So, you know it's, it's, it's a permission issue, and so that's the first thing to overcome is think about that and let that sit with you and really think why do I why am I not giving myself permission? Because, sure, the easy way out is it's expensive. I have to think about it. Yeah, of course, there's a lot of things in life that are expensive that you can plan for. There's also ways to do these rings in this jewelry that are very cost-friendly, you know. And my team can help you figure that out. But there's the I think the issue is, there's, there's a stop so there's, there's a permission issue. Lesley Logan 20:26  I think that's a really, what a, you know, I'm a Pilates instructor. I'm not a therapist, and when people move, trauma really leaves by through movement. And so I've had to up level myself in areas of training so that I can spot when that's happening, and not therapies, because I still don't have that license. But also, like, notice when it's just like, leaving the body, and when it's like, hey, you know here, like, how to handle that, right? And you are, like, going to, like, making jewelry, because, like, it was a great experience. And now it's also like, oh, I also have to be able to identify and help a woman go so maybe you should, like, let's talk about why you think that you can't have this yet, like, why you're not worthy of it now. And it's true, like, maybe you do have to go, okay, I am worthy of it, and I need to buy it in a year after I've, like, that's a different story. But, like. Margot McNaull 21:16  Of course. Lesley Logan 21:16  But it I think that there's a habit, and for the single women like, you're not good, you've got it, you've got it. You have one less thing to think about. But as a married person like I was raised in a house where I hear my mom go, I've had to check with my, my husband check with this. And also, by the way, yes, households have budgets. There are things to check on, but also you could also know what your budget is to spend on yourself and you like that should be a thing that's part of a marital household like my, my husband has his money to spend on his things without checking on me. I have my money spent on my things without checking with him. Then we have our money that, you know, if it's going to be in the household, we have to discuss. But there's not permission there. It's a discussion. And I think that's a difference in that, ooh, we just talked that through.Margot McNaull 22:03  That's it. I love that's it. Jewelry is always lands, most of the time, lands on this, I need to ask permission when it really should just be I just really, I just really want them to know I want it, and it's okay, you know. And we'll decide when I'm getting it. It is not a permission. Lesley Logan 22:22  Yeah, and I think, you know, it's really, it's really interesting is, like most partners, I would like to think, I know that that's not all the case in the world that we're living in today, but most partners actually don't want to, don't want to give you permission. They, they, they want you to have what you want. You know, like, I was asking something of Brad, and he's like, you don't need permission to buy it. You just buy it. And I was like, oh, that's right. Where did that come from? How did that come back? How did that come into me? I've never asked before. Like, who did I just hang out with? You know? So, like, so I think, like, it is, I think it's worth evaluating, if you're listening to this and you're like, I can't do I don't know, like, or you're feeling resistance around this, like, I would just ask, like, are you guys having discussions in your relationship around what you'll invest in, or is one person always asking permission, you know, and like, how can we change that? Because I think that that, you know, is worthy of evaluating and putting you know, some time in journaling and discussion into, so.Margot McNaull 23:20  I love that. Lesley Logan 23:21  Okay, so you, let's like, let's go back to the I want all the women who listen to this to feel worthy and also have something that they have chosen for themselves. So you got into this idea of like, she doesn't have, she can, she can get her own ring. And this is like, with, not the marriage ring, not the left hand finger ring, but another finger ring. What is that like? Who is grabbing these? Who did you think of this for? Like, what? Tell me more about it. Maybe I'll have one. I have an empty finger. I have an empty one.Margot McNaull 24:01  I know. I remember meeting you, and I was like, I love her. She loves jewelry. No finger is unadorned. Except maybe the one we have to fill, but you have to do something with the metal from your parents ring (inaudible). Lesley Logan 24:13  Yes, yeah, we'll have to talk about that, yes.Margot McNaull 24:15  Absolutely. That's perfect. It's like the sentimental piece that you need to add. So what I love about this is there are some women who are doing this for themselves. You know, let's say after, after having a baby, they're saying, I want a ring to commemorate that. I'm like, awesome. Go for it. Good for you. Then there's women like, we mentioned Lauren, who's like, I really want to honor my journey and my legacy, which is super exciting. Now we just started, we actually just really, speaking of the left hand ring finger, we just released ring transformations, which we are incur, basically like giving permission to women to say, this ring from when I got married 10 years ago is not in style and I don't even like it anymore, and revamping it and doing something with it. Lesley Logan 25:01  I love, that. I love that.Margot McNaull 25:02  It's so good. And, you know what's fascinating is us releasing the program. It's like they knew they could do this this whole time. Us saying apply for a ring transformation is like the permission they needed, because so many more people came out of the woodwork and are doing it now, because we, because we said it, you know?Lesley Logan 25:22  Well, I think also, like, it's on your to-do list, but then you're like, it just feels daunting. You're not really sure, you know, you almost like, need the prompt. I love this. I think that's really cool. I also, um, for the women who are, you know, letting go of relationship. I have seen women get beautiful rings, like, divorced rings.Margot McNaull 25:40  Yes, I know I've done that, and there's some funny names for them, and they've done something cool for themselves afterwards, which I love. And then I also hate, you know, because I don't want to just focus on this one finger. I hate when women say, like, you know, if I have a ring on that finger, then someone always ties it to a relationship. And then there's this whole other tangent of, why is this piece of our body belonging to someone else? It's like, I feel sorry for the single women who just want to wear a ring, and if they go on either side, right, people be like, oh, are you with someone? It's so frustrating. Lesley Logan 26:13  Yeah, no, it really is. Also like, I don't know. Maybe it's because I live in California, and people can judge how they want to, but like, I, whenever I wore a ring on that finger before I was married, it wasn't like people, it stopped anyone. Like, I got engaged, and I got more people asking me out on the first date at the Whole Foods in WeHo which, by the way, is where everyone is gay. So I should have been, like, left alone. So, so I would just say, like, I don't think anyone's actually that observant anymore.Margot McNaull 26:39  So true. So true. Yeah? Like, they should have permission to wear whatever they want on whatever finger and celebrate themselves in whatever way they want, right? And it's so interesting, because it's like, at, some women are waiting for that to happen, for that moment, for that someone to give it to them. And like, if you're listening right now, you do not need to wait for that, you know, do it for yourself. And if you do it for yourself first, and that happens later, it's probably going to be even more special because you're honoring yourself first. Lesley Logan 27:09  Yeah, oh I'm into that. I'm so into that. So ladies, put a ring on that finger and just put something that makes you feel powerful and wonderful and special. You know, it's just be it till you see it. And I think oftentimes, like the acting as if you are worthy before you might feel it is also helpful, because it's like, okay, if I did feel worthy, what would I do? What would I wear? What would how would I say yes to this? Would I would I be concerned about putting a ring on that finger or buying myself the ring that I've always wanted? You know, I think that that, and then all of a sudden, you you can, like, start to step into those shoes easily. And so when that ring is ordered and put on that you it doesn't feel foreign. It doesn't feel like something you're embarrassed about. Yeah.Margot McNaull 27:53  Yes, you're gonna love it so much more, too, because I've been working with a lot of couples for many years now. Like you said, they're partial therapist, partial ring designer. And honestly, if you don't go through that process first, you're not going to honor yourself enough in a way to actually get a ring you want to wear. You're going to compromise in ways that, and this is a piece you have to wear forever. This is where now, when, you know, people come without their partners, it kind of freaks me out of it, you know, like when the wearer of the ring isn't there, it'll, because it's so how do you nail all those details without the person wearing it? It's going to be on their body everyday maybe. So you deserve something that you truly love and truly honors who you are and what you want everyday. And so I just think, if you do that for yourself first, before getting into a wedding ring, you're, you're not going to compromise on that wedding ring either. You're going to know what you're doing. Lesley Logan 28:45  Yeah, yeah. And I think, like, what a symbol of a ring, if you've compromised all the way, like, you know, like, what is, what's going to happen? What's the be it till you see it, if everything to the detail of the ring is a compromise, you know? Versus like, I like this. I want this, yeah. Oh, my, oh, I could talk to you forever about jewelry, like, I really could. I got a new emerald, by the way, I'll have to show it to you.Margot McNaull 28:46  Ooh, yes, please. One of my faves. Lesley Logan 29:07  It's so pretty. It's like, I like, I put it on my finger, and I was like, I said, my friend, my the person who made my wedding ring. I was at her house, and I she had it out, and I was like, what is this that I don't need but I truly want? And I put it on. I was like, well, just look at that. And I was like, put, I tried to put, I was like, well, maybe I'll put the pink one on, you know? And then I was like, no, it's the one, I want, the green one. So I just wore it. And I sent a picture to Brad. I said, hey, babe, what do you think about this? And he didn't respond. And I was like, well, you know, silence is admission, like, it's permission. So this is like, I like, and so I bought it. And he's like, oh, what'd you get? And I was like, well, I hope you like that green one. Margot McNaull 29:55  I love that. Yes, I need to see that with your hair, too. Like, green emerald.Lesley Logan 30:00  It is so bright when, when we're done recording, I'll grab it. So anyways, okay, we're gonna take a brief break, because we could talk jewelry forever. But I want to find out some Be It Action Items from you and where people can work with you. Margot McNaull 30:11  Amazing. Lesley Logan 30:12  All right, Margo, where do you like to hang out? Where can people find you, follow you, connect with you, work on a ring with you?Margot McNaull 30:18  Yeah, let's do it. So our I'm most active on Instagram @StorbyMargot. So that's S-T-O-R-B-Y Margot with the T. And my two websites are storbymargot.com and margotmcnaull.com which will be you'll have them up, but my personal brand website, which is more women-focused, and then Stór By Margot is more tailored to the wedding side.Lesley Logan 30:37  Wonderful. Okay, we've talked a lot about some really good stuff, but Be It Action Item, it's the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps women can take who are listening and the few good men, by the way, we do have a few good men. Margot McNaull 30:51  Love it. Lesley Logan 30:53  We always call them out, they're listening, that they can take to be it till they see it.Margot McNaull 31:02  Love it. Okay, so I'm glad you gave me some time to think about this, but came down to don't give up on yourself, because to go through what you need to go through to be that strong, successful, driven woman, you have to go through some pretty dark valleys, and you do have to look at things in a way that other people maybe don't want to. It's easier not to look at those things, but then you're going to come out with a less powerful message. So the thing that I reflected on was going through a decade where many times I wanted to quit. Well, I'm I very much am not a quitter, I would say, like, I'm more of a beat myself up and keep going. But there would have been times where it would have been easier to quit, and I didn't quit, and instead I had to, like, look deep and figure out what was so uncomfortable and raw. And that's where I'm coming out of, I feel like, in a way. And you know, it seems like 10 years. When you start a business, I mean, you know this, when you start a business, you you'd think you'd be a long way in at year 10, right? Or you look at other people and you're like, man, look how well they did. And honestly, I feel like it's just the beginning, because of all of these things I had to figure out. And if you do not want to look deep into yourself, and you do, do not want to do deep work, definitely don't start a business, because I really, I feel like it's really similar to having kids. It takes a lot out of you, you know, I did both at the same time. So, hence, the very deep, dark valleys of self-reflection and what purpose I wanted to have. But that's what I thought about be it till you see it is I just kept going through the darkness, and I just keep having faith in the process. And that's what I would say in terms of being it till you see it. Because even, I mean, I'm very excited soon to be moving to the U.S. but. Lesley Logan 32:56  Yeah. You're being it until you see it on that U.S. move for, I think, few months after I met you. So it's kind of amazing that it's happening. Margot McNaull 33:06  I'm so excited expanding the business into the U.S. and but in, like some of you know, in Canada, we had the longest shutdowns. We had some of the longest shutdowns in the world. In from 2020-2022 we were still closed January 2022, can you even believe that? Lesley Logan 33:22  It's insane. Margot McNaull 33:23  And running a business at that point in time, you had to be great. And so I was thinking about, you know, life would have been a lot easier if I had given up, but I wouldn't be here today, and I wouldn't be talking about this message that I'm so excited to keep sharing and encouraging women with and so that's my Be It for you, for sure. Lesley Logan 33:44  Yeah, I love that, and it's true. Like, if you don't want to get to know yourself and go through all the dark valleys, there's good too. But like, you don't get the good without the dark. Like, that's just how the world is, how everything is in our lives, then go work for someone else, where you can clock in, repeat things and clock out, because it's, yeah, running, every single day, I learn something about myself. I'm like, oh, I wish I could take that back. I wish I could do that differently. Okay, I get to do that differently next time, but I have to live with what I did this time. Margot McNaull 34:19  Exactly. Lesley Logan 34:20  Yeah, it's, it's interesting, a journey it's a journey. But ladies and gentlemen, please consider, one, your worthiness, for this episode. Two, get the ring that you want for any finger. And three, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. You know, share this with a friend who's like needs to remember that they like are truly married to themselves and and that is how we can, I think, uplift each other and helping those around us feel worthy as well. So Margot, thank you so much. 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Lesley Logan celebrates historic and personal wins in this week's FYF episode. From Kelsie Whitmore making MLB history to a community win from Nancy Lawrence, and a pre-tour packing victory of her own, this episode is a reminder that progress doesn't have to be flashy to be worth celebrating. Take this as your reminder to celebrate yourself.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hello, Be It babe. Welcome to the quick inspirational episode where it's just kind of fun. We're going to talk about something that inspired me on the internet. Hopefully get you talking. I'd love to hear your thoughts. I'm going to share wins of yours. You can send yours into the beitpod.com/questions yes, I know it says questions, whether you can put questions that you want us to answer on the Be It Pod or your wins, and that way we can celebrate your wins too, and then you get to hear them on a future episode. It's so fun. I just joined a membership group from another podcast that's a local podcast to us. And then when they said my name on the shout out, even they just said Lesley. All they said was Lesley, I was like, that's me. That was me. And like, it's just kind of nice to feel so seen, right? So we want to make you sure you feel seen. So beitpod.com/questions, to put your questions and or your wins, okay? So a win of mine and then we have a little affirmation, and then you're off to your weekend. Lesley Logan 1:32  Okay, so the thing that inspired me today, well, it actually inspired me obviously a little bit while ago, because it's happened already, but you're hearing it now. So get this. This is amazing. History made. The Oakland A's have officially called up pitcher/outfielder Kelsie Whitmore from the Oakland Ballers, making her the first woman everto join an MLB roster! From indie leagues to the big stage. This is a moment for the books. I don't even know. I didn't even look to see if she played. I'm gonna tell you this right now, because that's what society has told us. Like, okay, well, does she play? I don't give a I don't care she played. The fact that she is on a Oakland A's roster. To be like the first this is a May we have to celebrate this right? Like, I hope that they call her up. I hope she gets to play, and I hope people give her space and grace to make mistakes. Like these jerk offs who get to play all the time. Like, baseball kind of pisses me off, because you can have, like, the lowest batting average and still make millions of dollars. So like, you know, I don't care what her performance was, she's amazing. She's there. And like, may this mean that more women get pulled up onto the baseball field, because you know what, baseball, your games are really long. And even though I was raised on baseball, my grandfather was a professional baseball player. I just want to tell you, like, because defense can't score, we need to make things more interesting. I don't want you to gamify it. I want to see women and men being badasses on the field. That's what I want to see. All right. Anyways, from my lips to you know, MLBs here, right? I guess that's how it's going to go. Lesley Logan 2:57  Okay, so now let's do a win of yours, a win of yours. Okay, Nancy Lawrence, oh, my God, one of my favorite humans in the whole world. You guys have heard from her before, because she's been on our OPC members, but she's an eLevate. She's most important like she's also been a retreater with us in Cambodia. We are going to see her again this October. So my win this week, moving with this baby. So this baby means her daughter, Miranda, having my daughter go through eLevate five and learn so much from Lesley Logan's amazing experience. She's learning the exercises, cueing, and so much more. She's becoming the woman she is destined to be, and no longer a tired and frustrated corporate employee working for someone else. She is working on herself so one day she can work for herself. I mean, I think we should just celebrate Nancy another win in this. Another win that we're having here is that you working on yourself and you doing things that light your fire and that you doing things that make you feel so amazing has inspired her that she has this opportunity. And I that's one of the reasons why I love wins and why I want other people to hear people's wins. It's because it inspires other people in your life, this bubble of influence that we can have. So Miranda is winning because you are winning, Nancy, so thank you so much for celebrating wins with us. Lesley Logan 4:13  All right, a win of mine. Y'all this is my win. Okay, so here's the deal, Tami-Adrian, you guys know her from OPC, and she'll be on the Be It Pod, soon. She bought us this gift, which is like, a bunch of those, like packing kits. So it's like, the things that like space savers for packing, right? And it's like she gave us like, four or five of these things, and inside there's like four or five different types of bags that just like, help you save space. And I was like, oh, my God, I'm not an organized person. I have ADHD, so it means I make lists, but then don't use them, you know. But one of the things, we're about to go on tour, and one of the things that I struggle with on the tour, is that we, we quite have, it's cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to build these fans out, the ones you see a van life, at the van life, and they're like, look like so Instagram on glamping, they spend a fuck ton of money, okay, we are doing this ourselves, and yes, we're spending money, but, like, I don't have an extra 100k just to throw into my van. So we are building things out. We have an AC. We want to have shelves, obviously, in drawers for the clothes, but we don't have that quite yet. But what we do have are these packing things. And so what I'm so proud of my win is this. I have already taken those packs and I've put them in the in like outfits of like, okay, this is my workout outfits for this many days. Okay? This is my teaching outfits like this, this is my other things and the way, because we haven't the walls in the van yet, I can put these pouches in the holes of the van so that I don't have to go under the van to pull my suitcase out, which means it's gonna be even easier for me to do my workout every morning. I'm not gonna waste time and lose time trying to pull that out. I'll have my teaching workouts. They're already hung up. You probably have seen how I do that, so that's ready to go. And then I'll have my daily clothes. So I actually get dressed while on tour to go to dinner, because sometimes I'm just, like, shuffling in my pajamas. So I am just, this is my win is where, like, less than a week from tour, and my outfits, not just the ones I'm teaching in, but the ones no one will see, are organized thanks to these packages. And if, and if I never use them again, I will still call it a win. But I've, this is a freaking win. If you have ever, like, organized a drawer, I hope that you see this as you've did a win, you slay. If you organize a closet, you slay. Like, these are the wins that are happening all the time, right? They're happening all the time, and we're just like, nope, didn't get that million dollar deal. So with like, my life's failure. No, no, no. Good things are happening to you all the time. Lesley Logan 6:25  Okay, so let's go to your affirmation. It says you don't need to believe in magic. You are magic. You need to believe in yourself. That's your affirmation. So well, let's change how the words are. I don't need to believe in magic. I am magic. I need to believe in myself. I don't need to believe in magic. I am magic. I need to believe in myself. I hope that hits you in a good spot because it hits me in a good spot. I hope it hits you in a good spot because it hits me in a great spot, right. Like, I really, truly hope that this podcast doesn't just educate you and inform you what's going on. I hope it helps you see like you're doing a great job. I believe in you. I hope you do, too, after that and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 7:11  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 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In this recap of the conversation with Wendee Close, founder and CEO of Goals2Life, a personal development platform that helps people turn their dreams into achievable goals. Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell, dive into how burnout led Wendee to build a more values-aligned life and business, how planning can fuel purpose, and why taking bold, intentional action is the key to owning your next-level identity. If you've ever felt overwhelmed or stuck, this episode will help you get back on track one meaningful step at a time.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. 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It's ask yourself very clearly, like, why haven't I done this? What has been in the way? Is this actually something I still want to do? Can I actually do it and then set new measurable goals, set new milestones and make it happen. Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the purposeful convo I had with Wendee Close in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to listen to that one first, then come back and listen to this one, or listen to this one and see if you agree with what we liked about that one. It's your choice. That's what's really important about the Be It Till You See It podcast, you choose. You choose how you want to listen. Today is July 17th. Brad Crowell 1:22  You choose very closely. Lesley Logan 1:23  Yeah, I hope you like that, Wendee. I'm sure she hasn't heard that before. It's like, my mom's last name growing up was Friesen, and like, she was super tall, so they would always go, how is the weather up there? Is it Friesen? Right, like, wow. I know kids are clever and cruel. Anyways, that's, I don't know why that popped in my head. Welcome to ADHD. So today is July 17th 2025 and it's National Tattoo Day. It was also another day, but obviously I have to pick this one, tattooing, the art of inserting pigment under the dermis layer of the skin. Brad Crowell 2:00  In case you didn't know. Lesley Logan 2:01  To create a decorative, symbolic or pictorial design or just a sticker on your body, permanent sticker on your body. Brad Crowell 2:01  Permanent sticker on your body. Lesley Logan 2:06  How I like to think of it. And on National Tattoo Day, July 17th, we set time aside to learn more about the tattooing process. It's a societal importance and history. Okay, here we go.Brad Crowell 2:17  I didn't know that. I'm in on societal importance. Lesley Logan 2:20  You guys, in case you don't understand the process of picking which day, it really is like what title speaks to us, and then we learn about the day as we read about it with you on air, and that someday could become problematic, but we'll edit it out then I guess you'll never know. So if you don't have a tattoo, you likely, or you're likely, to know someone who does. And if you've asked them how they knew at the time when they were getting inked whether they would still want that design on their skin years or decades later, you may have just gotten a peculiar look instead of an explanation. There is a certainly a fraternal connection between people who bear tattoos, a connection that those without ink can never really understand. We asked one correspondent to try address this phenomenon. He said, tattoos began as a ceremony, and they're still kind of like that. Once you're in an artist's needle, it's like a little it's a little like a religious experience. It's like the aha moment people talk about having in a business life. It illuminates something you didn't see before. I don't understand any of that. That doesn't resonate with me in any. Brad Crowell 3:15  Yeah, me neither. Lesley Logan 3:16  So first of all, I overthought my first tattoo, way too much. Brad Crowell 3:20  I mean, took me 15 years to get my first tattoo, because of the same thing. Lesley Logan 3:25  15 years from when you're 18 or like?Brad Crowell 3:29  Yeah, yeah, I didn't get one. So I guess that's not true. I wanted to get a tattoo in my teens. My parents said no, but I started designing it in my teens. Lesley Logan 3:38  Okay, okay. Brad Crowell 3:39  And then I didn't actually get one until 30 years old.Lesley Logan 3:45  Yeah, I got my first one on a blind date.Brad Crowell 3:48  You got one on a blind date? Lesley Logan 3:50  Yeah, we wanted something to do. Brad Crowell 3:52  Wow. Lesley Logan 3:53  I know. Brad Crowell 3:53  This is the first time I'm hearing this story, y'all. Do tell. Lesley Logan 3:57  Anyways. Brad Crowell 3:58  How'd that go? Lesley Logan 3:59  I never saw that person again. And I covered up that tattoo after I left my ex with the cherry blossoms that we then added on to, and then I just got others. Because once you get the first one, you kind of start to just get other ones and.Brad Crowell 4:21  Well, the hurdle has been left, you know, like, you're, you're, there's this weird mental block of like, I don't know if I want to keep that thing on my body forever. And then after, after you get your first one, you realize no one actually gives a shit. And then also you're like yeah, you know.Lesley Logan 4:38  We speaking on podcast or proponents for tattoos? Brad Crowell 4:39  Yeah, I'm not. I'm not that worried about it either. Because here's the other thing, you can also change the tattoo or you can cover the tattoo or you can remove the tattoo.Lesley Logan 4:50  Or you can remove it. Keith Davidson removed all of his tattoos. He is a complete blank slate. Google it right now. Brad Crowell 4:55  No way. Lesley Logan 4:56  Google it right now, because I thought for sure, it's AI and people were saying it's AI, and he has done actual interviews about it, and he there's no way it's makeup. He has, he spent $200,000 getting them all removed. And I thought that's all it costs to cover remove his entire body. Brad Crowell 5:12  I mean, he had a he had. Lesley Logan 5:13  His whole head to toe, like he was so covered. So anyways, our neighbor is shout out to Brieanna, Viva Vanish skincare, she actually removes tattoos. So like, to me, you could just remove it, right? Or you could cover it up, but you, you, you do overthink the first ones, and then you kind of just get them, and they just become part of you. Also, I've gotten, like, my dream catcher, my dream catcher tattoo. It is really funny. When I got it. Remember this, Brad, I got the dream catcher tattoo. It takes up my whole fucking arm. We came back from Cambodia.Brad Crowell 5:48  Upper arm, shoulder down to elbow. Lesley Logan 5:49  Yeah, shoulder to my elbow. We come back from Cambodia and, like, literally, no one notices. Like, no one notices. And I'm starting to think that like it, people don't like it, you know, and all this stuff. And so I'm, like, starting to make this through my head, and then someone who I've never met in person, they only know me through social media. I was at an event, and they're like, oh my god, is that a new tattoo? And I said, it is. Thank you. I just got it, I just got it right. And other people are like, that's new. And I'm like, yeah, there are people who, like, have known me for years, and I'm like, they're like, well, you're just, like, a person with tattoos. You just have tattoos. So anyways, all I had to say is, you know, I saw a reel or a meme. It was just like, tattoos are just stickers for adults. And, like, we like pretty things.Brad Crowell 6:32  I'm in on that. And I was looking up the Pete Davidson thing still, and I found something really interesting. He did an interview with Variety, why he decided to remove all of his tattoos, and apparently he's not removed every single one, but he's removed the majority. He said, on deciding to remove his tattoos, I used to be a drug addict and I was a sad person, and I felt ugly and that I needed to be covered up, and I didn't. And I don't think there's anything wrong with tattoos, but mine, when I look at them, I remember a sad person that was very unsure, so just removing them and starting fresh, because that's what I think works best for me with my brain. When I look at them in the mirror, I don't want the reminder of, oh yeah, you were a fucking drug addict. Like, that's why you have a Sponge Bob smoking a joint on your back. So good for him. Lesley Logan 7:18  Oh, I love that. But see, that's the thing. You can just remove it. So, you know.Brad Crowell 7:22  I mean, it's a process, but it can be removed. It's money and time, yeah. Lesley Logan 7:26  You know what? There's a lot of things you could spend your money on. I, don't get something you don't want. But also like. You. Brad Crowell 7:33  I like, I mean there's definitely sentimentality around the tattoos that that I have, have put thought into them. It hasn't been just like, on a whim, but also, too, the more like, as you get after you get your first one, the second one, the decision to get it was, like, much faster than the first one. Lesley Logan 7:52  Well, I also just want to say, like, you don't have to get them, and it's also fine if you get them and don't over, like, don't overthink it so much because it, because you kind of make it perfect and, like, you're trying to get all perfect. And it's, it's, like, it's, there's no judgment either way, like, you're gonna, life will go on. Brad Crowell 8:10  Well, we are very big proponents of ink and tattoos. We think they're really fun and cool. Lesley Logan 8:15  If it's part of your personality, like, and also, like, I don't, I don't think I remember my parents saying, you like, oh, you're gonna be so judged. You'll never get a job, like, that has never happened to me one time, and I have tattoos all over my hands and like, no one notices. Brad Crowell 8:17  Yeah, yeah. Lesley Logan 8:17  You know. So most of them are for me anyways, because when I have to look at myself in the mirror all the time, and I have to, like, look at what I do, like, or on a camera live all the time, and I'm like, I just want something to look at that's not just my family. Just my face. Like, I'm so tired of looking at my own face, I would like to see something else. So that was really a lot of it for me. Anyways. Brad Crowell 8:50  Anyways. Lesley Logan 8:52  Back to this podcast (inaudible) coming up. So, today we actually kick off Agency Mini 11. That's happening right now. Brad Crowell 9:01  Right now. Right now. If you'd have no idea what that means, and you were like, I need in on this, go to prfit.biz/mini. That's profit without the O dot biz slash mini. Lesley Logan 9:10  It's for Pilates instructors and fitness instructors who want to improve their business and attract clients that actually want to teach and make the money they want to make. So that sounds like you. You do want to sign up for this because the next one with our calendar, if it's possible being Q1 of next year.Brad Crowell 9:25  Yeah, we're, we've been literally, like, tentatively looking at February. Lesley Logan 9:25  Yeah and it could be the end of February. Brad Crowell 9:30  So it's not, we're not doing another one, we're not doing another one this year. And, and honestly, it's a killer program. So, and it's also not expensive, you should definitely do it.Lesley Logan 9:40  62.50 sign up today. Three days. First couple days of replays. There you go. All right. Then we are now really in the countdown of our Summer Tour the van has.Brad Crowell 9:52  We leave next week. Lesley Logan 9:54  I know the van has a new look. We have a huge tour going on. We have so many cities that are sold out. So many people are we're so excited to see in person for the first time, some we were seeing in person for the third or fourth time. We can't even wait. It's powered by Balanced Body, which means we actually bring some of the Contrology equipment with us. You can try it out. We have amazing prizes from them to give out, we're bringing Bayon. So it's opc.me/tour and then you can see all the different cities. And some of these cities, you are easily drivable. We have people who are coming to two cities, so you can do that too. Also, if you're having a little FOMO that we're not coming to a city anywhere in driving distance near you. And I just want to remind you, we are driving for several thousands of miles so you can drive a few hundred. Brad Crowell 10:38  Yeah, you can, it's okay, come join us. Lesley Logan 10:38  But it's like, if that's not an option, the Calgary event is a virtual event. And so it's in-person, of course, but there's virtual seats that are available, and they're limited. So you can get those at opc.me/tour, just pick the Calgary event. And then we come back.Brad Crowell 10:48  That's, I just want to call that again, if you weren't listening, we have virtual tickets for the summer tour for two workshops. Lesley Logan 10:51  Yeah, we've never done that before. Brad Crowell 10:56  Go to opc.me/calgary. To go directly to where you find them. Opc.me/calgary. Cool.Lesley Logan 11:05  Yeah. And then we come back rest up, unpack, repack, because we're going from summer to Scotland's fall, and we are going to be in the UK. We'll be in Leeds and in Essex. Brad Crowell 11:17  Yeah, we're running out of seats over there, y'all. It's exciting.Lesley Logan 11:19  Yeah, oh yeah. It's, well, at the time we're recording every time someone buys, it's like, this is, this stock is low. It's like, low it is. So Leeds only has a couple spots. Essex, we are offering day passes there, but every time someone buys a two-day pass, we run out of two-day passes. That's how that goes. So because it's a week during the week, because it's not nice, like, you can go to a whole workshop day during the weeks, plus, like, a vacation during the week, so go to opc.me/uk, I've had a ton of people going come do a tour in the UK. I'm like, I am, you guys, I'm coming in September. And we have a ton of our workshops that are happening at these locations. You can even do both locations. There's only like one workshop that overlaps, so opc.me/uk and then we'll come back at a couple weeks later, we go to Chicago for P.O.T., and then we go to Cambodia on our retreat. And it's not too late for you to sign up for our retreat for Cambodia, because we just bought our plane tickets.Brad Crowell 12:11  We just bought our plane tickets, and also we just had another person sign up, you know, so there's still time, absolutely, it's not like, you know, the plane tickets aren't getting overly crazy right now, which is nice. So pop in, come join us. Go to crows nest retreats.com. It's going to be a pretty small group this time, so I'll tell you (inaudible). Lesley Logan 12:11  If you don't like big crowds, it's the time to come, because I can't promise you it'll be a small group every time. In fact, I know 2026 has a ton of people, so you're gonna want to do this one because we'll have more time together. It's a lot of fun, and you can always come a day early or stay a day late.Brad Crowell 12:47  Well, we would encourage you to stay a day late, because we actually have two events that we can't include, quote-unquote, in the retreat. I mean, those events include going to see an elephant sanctuary, yeah. And then the second event is a waterfall excursion. And the reality is they're both just like, like, longer events that we couldn't fit into the flow of the actual retreat. Lesley Logan 13:08  Full day events, and also, like, especially the waterfall, we have to have a smaller group weather permitting, you know, all that stuff. So that's why they're extra so and on the extra days, and we're going to do them before we leave, so you should come, crowsnestretreats.com. Okay, we have a ton to talk about with Wendee, but we have an audience question.Brad Crowell 13:26  We sure do. @BrendaHornung1990 on YouTube asks, can I put a reformer in our garage? I'm in the southeast. So does it, so it does get hot in the summer southeast, probably like Georgia or Florida? I think I'd be more worried about the humidity. Lesley Logan 13:46  Good job, Brad, good job. Brad Crowell 13:48  Unless you've got a Contrology Reformer, which won't, you don't have to worry about the humidity as much. Yeah, there's no wood that's going to warp, right? Lesley Logan 13:55  Correct, because that's the thing. So, so the thing so one, I don't know which Reformer you're looking at that makes a difference. Two, so if you get a Balanced Body Reformer, that's wood, like a studio reformer, you have to worry about humidity for the wood. However, their springs have a coating on them, so you don't have to worry about the springs resting, whereas the Contrology, it's aluminum. And so you don't know. Lesley Logan 14:21  Or an Allegro 2. Lesley Logan 14:22  Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could do that. Brad Crowell 14:22  Allegro 2 is also aluminum. Lesley Logan 14:22  Yeah, so, uh, is it aluminum? I thought it's fiberglass. No, no, it's metal, I know, but is it alluminum, I don't think it's, it's white. Brad Crowell 14:34  Yeah, it's, it's aluminum. It's definitely not, it's not fiberglass. Lesley Logan 14:37  Really? We should (inaudible).Brad Crowell 14:37  It's definitely not fiberglass.Lesley Logan 14:37  Anyway.Brad Crowell 14:37  100% not fiberglass. Lesley Logan 14:37  Well, Brad is gonna, Brad is gonna, it's a prefab. I know that it's like the way they make it, anyways, the Contrology. I have friends who have them in Hawaii.Brad Crowell 14:50  Powder-coated aluminum. Lesley Logan 14:51  Okay, there you go. Brad was paying attention on the tour, not me. Anyways.Brad Crowell 14:57  I've also picked them up. I know what they freaking are. Lesley Logan 14:59  Yeah. So the Contrology, my friend has in Hawaii, and the frame is great. Nothing goes on there. Doesn't even rust, but the springs, well, you have to clean the springs, right? So. Brad Crowell 15:12  That's right. Yeah. I forgot about that. That's great. It's exactly the same, like, environment with humidity.Lesley Logan 15:18  I so I worry more about humidity anywhere. And then when it comes to, just, like, the hotness, I mean, obviously it's gonna pin like, are you gonna want to lay on a hot Reformer bed? Because it's gonna like, like, it's like, sitting on your car when the car's hot.Brad Crowell 15:34  Well, here's the thing, you can actually regulate the temperature inside your garage. Lesley Logan 15:37  Yeah, if you can, yeah, then I would do that. Brad Crowell 15:39  In Cambodia, we have these wall units for, like, air air conditioning. Lesley Logan 15:44  Yeah, I love this idea. We're helping you out, Brenda, so get a wall unit, and then I probably. Brad Crowell 15:49  Yeah, they're called a they're called, there's a specific term for them. What are they called? They're not a window unit. They're a wall unit. Oh, they call it a split, mini split. Lesley Logan 16:03  A mini split. Brad Crowell 16:03  Mini split. So that way, what it does is it actually takes the big air conditioning part of it that, like, you know, is loud and noisy, and it actually is outside, yeah, but then the inside is just a little wall.Lesley Logan 16:15  They're amazing. They're so quiet. The other thing I would just say is, like, I've never experienced this thing. I've never had to purchase one in my life. But a dehumidifier is something you can also purchase. I saw one in Brad's uncle's basement. I was like, what is this thing? He said, a dehumidifier. I'm like, I only know about humidifiers. Clearly, that's where I've lived in the world. So you can have a dehumidifier, and then that would make your equipment last a long time as well. Brad Crowell 16:39  That's true. Lesley Logan 16:40  Just something to note that, like Naugahyde and your leather straps, you know, those things can be affected by the weather. So if, again, if it's hot, cold, like, you're just gonna want to find a way to stabilize the environment a little bit so that it, you can have it for years, because that's all I want to make sure, like, we didn't leave my Reformer around the heat. I think my extra Reformers out in the in the garage for, like, in the shed for like, a year, but it was in a box protected. And then we're like, we got to get that in. That's probably not so great for it. So. Brad Crowell 17:07  Yeah, just because the the Naugahyde will eventually become brittle. Lesley Logan 17:10  I think the leather straps would also become, they would dry out as well because, like, they stay healthy because of the oils of the skin. So anyway.Brad Crowell 17:18  I just also found out that a mini split is, it's called a mini split because it's heating and cooling. Brad Crowell 17:24  Oh, well, there you go. Brenda. Show us the pictures of your garage with your new Reformer in it. Brad Crowell 17:24  You're amazing. Lesley Logan 17:24  You guys. If you want to ask us any questions, they don't have to be about Pilates, they can be about anything. You'll, you just have to go to beitpod.com/questions. You can also send us your wins. We can celebrate you. And you can hear about your wins on a day that you need to because they always happen to land on the day. You're like, my life isn't working. And then you hear a win you had, and you're like, Oh my God, it was, I just forgot.Brad Crowell 17:47  Stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 17:49  All right. Welcome back. Let's talk about Wendee Close. Wendee is the founder and CEO of Goals2Life, a personal development platform designed to help individuals create and achieve meaningful goals through detailed planning and execution. It's quite a comprehensive platform. It's actually kind of amazing. After 27 years in the B2C industry, she pivoted into the tech world to build a purpose driven SaaS platform aimed at transforming how people bring their aspirations to life. SaaS stands for software as a service. So the like a SaaS platform would be like Gmail or Google Calendar. That's a SaaS platform. In this case, she's making a tool that is software that'll help you bring your aspirations to life for real, known for her resourcefulness and her get it done attitude, Wendee now helps ground people break through burnout and overwhelm by aligning their goals with their values. And I think for her, that was, like, legit, because she was like, doing she and her husband had started a business that could she do it? Yes. Was she really good at it? Yes. Did it light her fire? No. Should she have been doing it? No, right. But she did it for decades, right? And after all that time, and they really did well, she still was like, I kind of don't like what I'm doing, yeah. And so that's what caused the shift to start this platform, you know, effectively starting a second career after her kids have flown the coop. She they're empty nesters now. So, you know, she's, she's definitely tackling a huge project. Lesley Logan 19:30  Bird launcher. Brad Crowell 19:30  She's a bird launcher. Lesley Logan 19:32  Yeah, I like, I know I said on the podcast, if not, I said her face. I am, like, immensely impressed that she has taken on this project because, like, it's so, like, I had no idea what starting OPC like, how much effort it is to have a platform like OPC. Like it is the amount of work we have to do on a daily basis for OPC is the amount of people who work on that site to keep everything. So like, when she was, when she talks, she's like, oh my God, that is the biggest project in the world. Like, I was just like, sitting there, from the experience of it, and she doesn't even see it as difficult. I mean, like, of course there's difficult times, there's hard days, but she always is like, excited for the challenge. And like, she takes it in, and then she figures out who she has to talk to to make it happen. And so anyways, one thing she said that I love, and I think it is why she can do what she's doing and take on this mountain of an amazing business, is when the vision is clear, you become it. So she is like, even though the project is still being built out and it works. She has tons of clients and tons of customers and tons of companies that work with it, but it was something that she's continuing to build and perfect and do. She isn't waiting for it to be ready to go out there and talk about it. She's talking about it because she's it.Brad Crowell 20:54  She's been talking about it, I mean, you know, before it was even ready to go. She understood what she was building, who it was going to help, and was out there sharing it with the world.Lesley Logan 21:04  I mean, if you haven't listened the episode, you have to, because it's truly a Be It Till You See It like it is, she is not waiting for the project to be ready for someone to deem the project ready for anything like that. She's like, I'm going to go out there, I'm going to talk about it and the questions I get and the things people need are going to help me make it even better. And that's what we are always trying to tell people to do inside of Agency as well. She said, when you believe in what you're doing, it becomes, it becomes easy to show up and say, this is who I am and this is what I'm doing. The vision is so strong, you live it. And I think, like, a lot of us, are sitting in the place where she was before in that B2C thing. Maybe you're not B2C but, like, was she good at it? Yes. Can she do it? Yes. It didn't light her up. And so I think a lot of people are struggling with, like, preaching, preaching out loud and and boasting about the thing they're doing because it's not the thing they really want to be doing. So they're not as excited. She is so excited about this. Every time I talk to her, I'm like, excited about what I do. Like, somehow, like, it reminds me this is why I do what I do.Brad Crowell 22:06  She lights everybody on fire. You know, I bet you, too, that all the things that she learned with her first business on, she managed a team. She, you know, worked with clients. She, you know, understood how to do every aspect of that business. There's like a direct translation for what she's doing now, even though it's a different project and a different product and a different goal, the skills she learned from the first one are absolutely setting her up to excel at this in What? What? So much faster, so much faster.Lesley Logan 22:42  Well, and also, like, every single even if the thing you want to do is something you were never trained to do, every skill that you've acquired along your journey is transferable. It's all. Brad Crowell 22:51  Story of my life. Lesley Logan 22:52  Yeah, it's really all so transferable. And there, most of the jobs that I well, the job that I currently have, there's, like, not like a degree in it. So, yeah, like, I think, like, we're all like, where's the checklist to go check? There isn't one. So get your vision clear and then talk about it. Don't be afraid to talk about it, because, just because people question it or and they might not be as excited as you, their questions help you deliver what you do better. You know? When we first started about OPC versus how we talk about it now, very different based on the questions we got from the way we talk about it, you know, like, so.Brad Crowell 23:28  Class starts at six. I think we even said that. I'm sure it was, like, new class on Tuesday. I really loved when she was talking about clarity and resourcefulness and her reminder about it, specifically around asking for help, right? She has no qualms to reach out to people and ask for help. She is very excited about what it is that she's doing, and because she knows what she's building, it gives her enthusiasm, right, and courage. And then when she goes and she asks someone for help, even if they say no, it doesn't matter. It doesn't deflate her enthusiasm. But because she has that, she can ask for help in a way that is compelling people actually want to help her. She said, every single day, I'm like, I don't know how to do the thing that I'm gonna do today. But what do I want to do? I want to impact lives. So she has a bigger goal. Like, for example, the conversation you were having was about going live on Instagram. She's like, I'm not a techie, you know, social media user, but I'm willing to learn this thing, even if I fail at it, if I fall flat on my face. Because if I can go live with someone today, and it's got to further my actual goal, which is impacting people's lives. And she said she just, she encourages everyone to just be, learn to be as resourceful as you can. Right? And she said, if you're honest and transparent about where you are and what you're trying to do, others will help you do it.Lesley Logan 25:03  Yeah, they will. They because they get excited. Because you're excited. People want to be part of the party. People want to be part of, that is how, for better or worse, people get involved in organizations like you know, they want it. I read the book Careless, careless people about Facebook and, oh, guys, it's a book worth, and if I could get her on, I would, but she's not doing any touring right now, but it's she talks about why she got involved with Facebook and why she was pushing for it to be around the world, because she want, she want to be part of the vision of connecting people, yeah, and helping people have all these and I know that's like the worst example, but also like getting so excited about your thing that people get excited to be part of your life, because they'll want to connect with the right people too, whether or not they can help you, like, Oh, I know, so and so. And then they're so excited about what you're doing when they talk about this to their friend, there's a trust transference, and all of a sudden you have the connections you need, you know. So no one gets to get their goals all done by themselves. It just doesn't happen that way. You want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.Brad Crowell 26:10  Well, yes, very enthusiastically delivered there. Oh, you mean that old thing. Okay, dad. That's hilarious. All right, well, if you are looking for some, Be It Action Items, stick around, because we're going to dig into those when we come back. Brad Crowell 26:33  Okay, finally, let's dig into those Be It Action Items that we had with our conversation with Wendee Close. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo? I'm gonna go first, because she actually went down all four like, right away, which is pretty awesome.Lesley Logan 26:53  Whenever anyone does that, I'm like, oh, you took the assignment to the next level.Brad Crowell 26:58  She did. She did. She said, hey, here's what's bold, own your next level identity, right? She encourages you to ask, what would my future self do right now, today, in this instance, and then take that action from your future you, right? And she said, that's super bold, you know, like, know where you're going, know what you're trying to do, and then you know, if you're faced with a tough decision, would you, would you choose yourself make decision A or decision B, right? And then she said, executable, take small intentional steps every single day, small intentional steps, right? Breaking down big goals into micro movements. And then ask, what's one step that I can take today, right now, and then go do that step. In fact, that's like half of what Goals2Life is is literally the execution element of it, because what they help you do is map out your goals and then figure out how to do them, actually, how to bring them to life, right? Lesley Logan 27:56  Yeah. You just, that's where the name came from. Brad Crowell 28:00  Goals2Life. That's where the name came from. Intrinsic. Align your goals with your purpose. Align your goals with purpose. She said, What? Ask yourself, why does this even matter to me? Like, if you have a goal of, let's say, doing a 5k race, you know. Why does this matter to you? Why you know do the seven layers of why you know, what is it that you're actually trying to do here? And then, when your goals are tied to your values, your commitment will deepen. So you need to understand what your values are. And then we need to find goals that are going to tie it all together. So, intrinsic. Align your goals with your purpose, targeted, set clear, measurable milestones, replace vague hopes with tangible outcomes. Ask yourself, how will I measure the progress? We would suggest deadlines. Deadlines actually give yourself by this time I will do this thing, you know, or by this time I will, I will have this finished or this piece, piece of it accomplished. Because then it gives you targets. Lesley Logan 29:06  I just talked to Agency members about this. I said, if with, like, you know, we're halfway through the year, right? And it's like, if you reflect on your goals, you wanted to have done this year, what you want to have done by now, and you're like, oh my God, I didn't hit the name. It's like, well, it's, don't beat yourself up, it's ask yourself very clearly, like, why haven't I done this? What has been in the way? Is this actually something I still want to do? Can I actually do it and then set new measurable goals, set new milestones and make it happen? You know? So I believe in those I love a deadline. Brad Crowell 29:35  Love a deadline. Yeah. What about you?Lesley Logan 29:37  Okay, so she said, and this goes back to what I was just saying, so I'll just translate. If something's a priority, if it's a goal, it needs to be on your calendar. And that's where a lot of people make mistakes. They're like, Oh, I'm gonna do this thing, but they don't even set aside time, like in my calendar. If you look at my calendar, it'll say, write this thing, do this thing, call this person. It is in my calendar. So there's not like, Oh, here's my three things I wanna get done today. And. I have a wide open day. No, every single work day is like it's full because I have now, of course, I can move things, if something comes up or whatever, but then it gets moved because if it's in your calendar, you'll reschedule it. So that's what's really important. She said, if it's not in your calendar, it's not a priority. And she didn't mention time blocking. I'm big fan of time blocking. I actually talk a lot about how we teach Agency members how to time block so that they actually move the needle forward in their business. She also said this is really important. She said she was talking about her burnout. She said no amount of movement, water, nutrition or meditation can make up for the lack of sleep, so sleep should be right there at the very top. And I think that is the most important thing. It's something I always talk about. When you come on a retreat to Cambodia, we actually like put your dream schedule together, and the first thing you actually put in there is when do you go to bed, and when do you wake up? It's your dream schedule. It's not your current sleep schedule. It's like what you desire to have as a sleep schedule. And it's the most one of the most important things to do is work towards that, because you cannot, like, biohack your way out of sleep you didn't get. Maybe one day, maybe two days, but you can't do it 365 days. Not gonna happen.Brad Crowell 31:16  Wendee and I definitely connected on that, because both of us just didn't leave ourselves sleep time or permission to sleep. And so, you know, definitely impacted me through college for sure, you know. And even today, you know, it's still a decision to make sure that that is a priority, But yeah, I love it. I mean, you know, Wendee is one of the most magnetic people that you'll ever met. Like when she walks into a room, you know it, whether she meant you to know it or not, you know it. And her enthusiasm for and her vision for her business, for Goals2Life, is contagious. And, you know, I think the product is, it's really amazing, and helping people actually move forward, instead of feeling stuck. And, you know, I'm excited, so y'all should go check it out. Goals2Life. The number two, Goals2Life.com, we'll put that link in the show notes, for sure, yeah. But yeah, if you haven't gone back yet, go listen to Wendee. She's amazing. Yeah, go listen to why we love her so much. Lesley Logan 32:25  Okay, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 32:25  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 32:25  Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. How are you going to use these tips in your life? We want to what your favorite takeaways are. We want to also know your questions and your wins. So beitpod.com/questions, I know that's confusing, because if you have a win, you're going to the questions, but I promise you, both columns are there. It's very easy to figure out and share this episode or Wendee's episode with a friend who needs to hear it, because that is how this podcast not only continues to grow, but also helps people be it till they see it. The more people around you that are doing that, the easier it is for you to be till you see it. It's really hard to be around a bunch of Eeyores, guys. So send them. Send them Wendee's. Send them Wendee's episode. And you know what to do. Brad Crowell 33:04  Time to be a Piglet, not not an Eeyore. Lesley Logan 33:06  Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 33:08  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 33:10  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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What happens when entrepreneur burnout leads to a complete shift in how you work and who you serve? In this episode, Lesley Logan talks with personal development expert and Goals2Life founder Wendee Close about her startup journey, building a purpose-driven platform, and why slowing down can actually speed up your success. If you're feeling stretched thin or stuck in your business, this conversation will help you reset your goals, reclaim your time through time blocking, and prioritize well-being — starting with sleep.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:What led Wendee to build a purpose-driven platform from scratch.Goals2Life's impact in helping people avoid burnout and regret.How Wendee's leverages AI in helping students build habits that stick.How time blocking can help protect your energy and prevent burnout.How asking what your future self would do can guide your daily decisions.Episode References/Links:Goals2Life Website - https://www.goals2life.comGoals2Life on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/goals.2.life/Goals2Life on Facebook - https://beitpod.com/goals2lifefbWendee on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@WendeeCloseBook: Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert - https://a.co/d/8xm2XNRGuest Bio:Wendee Close is dedicated to empowering students with the life skills they need to set and achieve meaningful goals. Through her Goals2Life framework, she helps young people break down big ambitions into small, actionable steps that lead to success. With a personal development and goal planning background, Wendee provides tools and guidance to help students stay motivated, build confidence, and turn their dreams into reality. Wendee Close is a recognized leader in personal development and goal planning, specializing in helping students build habits that drive success. As the founder of Goals2Life, she teaches young people how to transform overwhelming aspirations into structured, achievable steps. With years of experience in coaching and mentorship, Wendee understands the challenges students face—procrastination, uncertainty, and lack of motivation—and provides clear, actionable strategies to help them thrive in school and beyond. 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You have to take care of yourself. Because if you just focused on, oh my gosh, I love what I do, I'm going to work, work, work. That's great. But guess what? You're not going to show up as the best version of you.Lesley Logan 0:12  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:51  All right, Be It babe. I'm gonna get into this interview as quickly as possible, because our guest today is one of my favorite humans in the world. Everytime I get off a call with her, I am more motivated to do the thing I already was motivated to do. So this podcast is honest, it's authentic. It's got great tips and it's gonna help you be it till you see it. So here is Wendee Close from Goals2Life. Lesley Logan 1:13  Be It babe, get ready. This conversation is gonna be the caffeine you forgot to get yourself this morning. I promise you. Wendee Close is our guest today, and the two of us, we get together, it's like, so you are, you can slow the speed down if you're someone who speeds up the podcast. Wendee Close, girl, I love you. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Wendee Close 1:35  Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, first off, my name is Wendee Close. Like she said, I am the CEO and founder of Goals2Life, and I rock at execution and getting shit done. I am the GSD girl. Definitely want to bring it to people where they could actually say, I want this, and they just don't know how to actually implement it. And I'm your girl for that.Lesley Logan 1:53  You so are. Here's the thing, like I was looking through, you know, Be It babe, we have, like, a form that people fill out. And it's really funny, because I, whenever it's a friend of mine, I'm like, just fill out the logistics, like email address, I know you, but like, my team's like, we do need the bio, Lesley, we do need these things. I'm like, ah (inaudible). But one of the things that I love that you wrote in this form, you actually talked about being it till you see it as a CEO of Goals2Life. And I, I would love for you to share that with people, because I couldn't agree more when I met you, when I met you, Goals2Life was an idea. You were busy doing the things, but it wasn't a thing yet. But to me, I was like, I felt like, oh my god, this woman is the CEO of the biggest, coolest, most amazing, successful company, and then I find out, like, the next day, when I'm talking with you, you are in the process of it. So you are a Be It babe, example, tell everyone what you did. Wendee Close 2:51  Oh, I, 100% okay. So for me, I lived 27 years in a B2C world, and that's like, you know, working directly with the consumer I decided, you know, here I was not in alignment with my calling. So I'm like, okay, I have now been put into a direction that now is in alignment with my purpose. So it's very clear when you have vision and you're like, okay, this is the vision of what I'm supposed to do, the gifts that I have, I'm perfectly in alignment, it, and when the vision is so clear, you you become it. So I knew I had to create a SaaS platform, which is a software service, a huge platform to solve a world problem. It's like, it's not, it's so much bigger than me. And so I have to believe so much in the calling and the purpose and my gifts and my capacity to know when I walk into the room, it's already happened. It's already happening like I already know it's not if, it's just when, and it's going in because the conviction is so strong, because you're filling a need and a void that is so needed, and you know you have the right solution, and you know you're the right person. You just show up because that's who you are, and that is what you are doing and what will be done in the perfect time. So you know, when you believe in what you're doing and when you're in alignment, it's just so easy to show up and say this is who I am, this is what I'm doing. These are the lives I am changing. This is what I'm going to do. And I'm not just doing it here and now I'm going to do it across the world. So it's just taking it in and sometimes living it way bigger than you are, because the vision is so strong and you believe it, so you live it. Lesley Logan 4:28  Yeah, I, I agree with that. Like I and loves, you don't need to know what a SaaS or a B2C is, to know that, like, all this stuff, like, to take everything she just said because I think what I, what I want to highlight is, like, you are very successful for 25 years in doing what you're doing. Like, honestly, you could have just like retired. You could have just like part time. Wendee Close 4:49  Yeah, my husband reminds me that all the time, let's just take a risk and let's just go live decide when he wants to leave a legacy in a whole different direction. You know it is, it can make you sick if you are out of alignment with who you are. And until you could really find your purpose and use your God given gifts, it can be a struggle, and you may have this emptiness or feeling of unfulfillment. And so until you can actually get clarity on what that is, and then start crafting a plan and start moving into action and when you start acting on the things that you know and you're in alignment, you start having this overwhelming sense of joy and there's not a day of working, you know, when people say, you know, what's the saying of when you, when you love, what you do, you're never, never work or whatever, truly like, I get up and straight, straight up, you guys, I'm in a startup, and this is launching a software startup. This is not easy. This story to be tell. I cannot wait. Lesley Logan 5:44  It's like obstacle after obstacle, like green light, yellow light, red.Wendee Close 5:50  I will tell you I wake up every day with so much joy of the opportunity to be called to do something so great, and to actually be able to impact lives and make a difference. I do not, no matter how many hours, no matter what the struggle, no matter what the difficulty is. When you are in alignment and you have vision and you know you can help other people, there's not, it doesn't feel like work, like it really doesn't even, no matter how hard it is, unless you know it's hard.Lesley Logan 6:17  Yeah, oh, it's, I agree with you, like, you know, before we hit record, I was like, I refuse to work more than eight hours a day. Wendee Close 6:23  Yeah. You just told me that. Lesley Logan 6:24  My work day is technically scheduled to be around seven, sometimes six. And the reason is, is, like, it's gonna go an extra hour. I'm gonna, like, I'm gonna wrap things up before I, like, sit down and I'm like, okay, what's going on for tomorrow? That doesn't mean I don't love what I do. It just means that, like, I also know that I have to live a full life, to show up every day to be the thing for you, for everyone that I'm helping. But I wake up every day like so excited. I do not hit snooze, I get in a cold punch, I get my walk in. I cannot wait to do the things that I'm doing, and I agree with you. Like, if you are out of alignment, you do almost get sick, you get frustrated, you start lashing out. You know, I guess, like, the question I have because, like, I we, I am in a tech business, which I would never have thought, like, I didn't. I was like, I'm a Pilates instructor and I hear my husband go, oh, we have a tech platform. And I was like, I'm like, we do? It's beautiful. It's so good. Lesley Logan 7:17  Hold on, does anyone notice what colors I'm wearing? Lesley Logan 7:20  Oh, my God, she is wearing OPC color. She's got the OPC hot coral. She's got the OPC turk- she is OPC. So I, I think, like, I think some people get caught up in the part that we're in right now, which is, like, we're in it. We're building something we didn't know. And you're kind of learning as you build a plane. How did you get yourself to trust that you'd figure it out? Because, like, you go from having the goal of a Goals2Life is, and by the way, her B2C was not like, also in tech guys, so this is, like, a whole, I just want to say, like, like it was, this is a 180 from what she was doing. How did you go from like, it's okay that I don't know what I don't know, I'm gonna do it anyways. Like, how did you wrap your head that you'd figure it out?Wendee Close 8:09  I, well, I would just tell everyone, just learn to be as resourceful as you can. And I was not afraid of asking a lot of questions and being vulnerable to the people that I know had the answers, because people really do want to help you, and there's a lot of people out there that if you come and you just being honest and very transparent about where you are and what you're trying to do and that you don't know, they will help you. And so I have made some incredible relationships and found some phenomenal mentors on this journey asking. And then I am just extremely resourceful, and I have confidence to say, you know, there's a lot every day I wake up every single day I'm like, I don't know how to do this. I don't know how to do that. Like today, I'm doing a live with Brooke Riley, and we are going in because I don't know how to go live. You guys. I don't. And guess what? What do I want to do? I wake every day, up every day figuring out how I can reach more people, to impact more people's lives. So guess what Wendee needs to do? I need to get out of my comfort zone. I need to learn how to go live, how I can get in front of more people. Do I want to do it? Not really. But guess what? I do want to impact lives. So guess what Wendee's going to learn? We're going to go live and we're going to learn how I'm going to go live through Goals2Life. I built a plan. She's going to teach me, and we're going to teach other people, but that's like everyday, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm going to get online and say, I don't know what I'm doing. So you all can watch me not know what I'm doing, but we will learn together, and people will be more vested in what you're doing when you show up that way.Lesley Logan 9:37  I agree. I, thank you for, and also thank you for being vulnerable and you, you and Brad are like people in my life who like you're not afraid to ask people for help or ask people for connection or ask and I didn't grow up like with that. And so I'm always so surprised when I see people do it. But then what it does is it gives me permission to do it too. And so I find myself doing it more, and I'm like, okay, and I don't even have to feel guilty for asking for that, because they are doing it. If they didn't want to do it, they wouldn't do it. And if they don't do it, it's not that they don't want to do it. They might have forgotten. So let's just, hey, are you still going to do that thing? No problem if you're not. Like, you guys have, the two of you, thank God for you. Like, it's a contagious behavior that you have that I needed. So let's talk a bit about Goals2Life. Because, like, you are creating this platform. It is huge. It is robust. It is for the biggest impact of all these people. Why and what do you want people to do with it? Wendee Close 10:36  Oh my gosh. Well, the big why is I want people to live a life of wholeness. We want to help people trade that burnout, that fatigue, for fulfillment and the overwhelm for outcome, by helping them bring their goals to life, but the biggest thing is, in every area of their life. We don't want one person focused on one area and looking back and regretting and understanding that they compromised other areas, just like, Lesley, how you're saying you're going to do an eight hour a day. You have to do that self-care. You have to take care of yourself. Because if you just focused on, oh my gosh, I love what I do, I'm going to work, work, work. That's great. But guess what? You're not going to show up as the best version of you. Something's going to give, and you will get the burnout if you don't take care of yourself. So it's really bringing awareness to people, understanding that we are so multifaceted, and we have to take care of each area, like if you neglect your finances, your relationships, your spiritual connections, your anything like I, mental health, like, you could literally, okay, let's just talk right here. We could be the best Pilates person ever, and have your body so strong, and here you are, but mentally, you're a hot mess. So health is not health, like, that's great. But guess what? If you're not taking care of your mind and having peace in your mind and reducing that stress or anxiety that you might be feeling, then you're really not feeling as if you are truly at peace and in harmony with what you're supposed to. So, yes, first thing first, Goals2Life is to help people, because they, they, everybody, I don't care if you're 10 years old or 90, everybody wants something. They desire something. They need to do something, or they dream of doing something, right? So now it's like, okay, what do they do with that? Most people just spiral it in their head. We empower people to allow them to understand the next step is to actually get it written down. And how do we help them create a plan? Because without a plan, they're just wandering around with a no direction. Have no clarity. They're stressed because they don't know what direction they're going. And then once they write the plan, we have an easy tool and a resource through our system to help them implement and execute the plan so what they can actually achieve the life they want. And that's what we want. People deserve to live the life they want. They just need to know how to do it. And we want to empower them through Goals2Life, to live the life that they really deeply desire. And people just don't know how.Lesley Logan 12:59  Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's true. I mean, like, I think people get so caught up in the how. And there's all these coaches out there, very brilliant people who are like, oh, don't get, don't get stuck on the how, just figure out the why and the what. And it's like, yes. And also, like, people do need to help with that first next step, because if they don't know the first next step, they will just get stuck in this house. So I really love that you've like, created this platform that really helps people, like, create a plan.Wendee Close 13:27  A detailed plan. Sadly, I know people don't want to live in the details. And right now, we're working with a university here in Southern California, University of Irvine UCI.Lesley Logan 13:35  Cool.Wendee Close 13:36  And I have their I have their computer science department, their graduate students working on our platform right now, and you know, we're talking about AI. So AI is built into the system to guide you. We do have over 60,000 data points, so we have recipes for success. You want to feel this way? We'll tell you the strategies and actions. You don't even have to think, but we want people to think. So, we're like, how much do you want AI influencing a life plan for people? And it's interesting, because AI is such a big topic right now, where you know to commit to something, to really commit to change, you do need to know your why, but you have to be vested into the work of creating and thinking about what, what you are willing to do, what you're willing to sacrifice. And you can't let AI do that, and AI can't do the actions for you either. You have to do the work and yeah, so it was interesting a fine line of how much you bring AI into this process, because if you make it too easy, they're not going to end up executing. Sometimes you have to do the work to be more committed.Lesley Logan 14:34  Yeah, I think you have to have some skin in the game, like, there has to be some investment. It's the same reason, like, you know, I got I did a lot for my business, listening to podcasts for free when I didn't have money to invest in coaching, but at some point, I was not willing to take the risk money-wise in my business with these ideas I was hearing on podcasts, until I invested in a like, you have to have some skin in the game so that you actually can do the work. I agree. My girlfriend, Monica, does my photos. She's been on the podcast before. She is like, are you using chatGPT to give you a pep talk in the morning? I was like, no, what are you talking about? Wendee Close 15:10  I haven't heard of that. Okay. That's a new, that's a new, thank you for sharing. Lesley Logan 15:13  She sent me screenshots. And it is like, Monica, you are the best. I mean, like, it is so great. I was like, okay, I clearly need to get up in the morning and say, good morning. Here's what I got going on today. Give me my pep talk. Like, not because I need it, but like, there is something nice about someone else going, you got this. Like, I think that that's really cool. I want to go.Wendee Close 15:33  I love that, by the way, thank you (inaudible) We could all use some motivation, right? Lesley Logan 15:40  Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I don't know, some of us listen to music, like, we've had, like podcast guests on before. Like, their Be It Action Item was like, pick up your fave what's your song that's gonna be your Be It song and play it every morning. And that one resonated for me a little bit. But there's something about like, I don't know someone like, like, cheering me on as I get ready in the day, like, I kind of need it, but I, I want to go to like you are so good, and like one of the most generous humans I've ever met is you okay? So you are, like the picture next to the definition of the word generosity with love, all of that. So how do you make sure you don't get lost in the impact you're trying to make in the and being the owner of this business, EE CEO, the wife, the mom, all the things that you do, like, how do you prioritize Wendee? How does that happen? Wendee Close 16:25  Oh, wow, that's, that's great. You know, I was thinking about that because I love human connection, and I love people so much. And sometimes, you know, I know that I give at a 10. Like, you know, some people are like, are you a bucket? Like, where do you go? Because not everybody's at a 10. Some people are at a two, and you can't have those expectations that they want to love on you the same way, but they do love you. They just don't have the capacity to love it that way. So I have to say when I'm doing it, it has to make me feel good like when I'm giving and loving I have to be filling my bucket. The minute I'm start doing things that are not serving me well. I need to set my boundaries and realize, am I doing this because, why am I doing this? Is it because it's actually filling me up, and if it is filling me up, then I will continue to do it, but if it's starting to I'm starting to question if it's taking away and not serving me well, I need to step away. And I think having those evaluations just because it's a behavior or something that I'm used to doing, I have to check myself, time, because time is so valuable, right? But I do know that for me, having I'm not a surface person in any way, shape or form, having meaningful conversations with people where we actually are challenging and supporting each other is really what fills me up. A lot of time with my husband, where we have time to pray and be together and connect and start our day off that way. I do start my day off with a playlist. We have Goals2Life playlists for every goal, type two on Spotify. So I am a music girl, but I do listen to podcasts. So Lesley, keep them coming if you're listening to them, you know, share them with me, because I do. But I think, believe it or not, as much as people think I'm such an extrovert. I'm actually really much of a needing to be quiet and still, so I do a lot of time in the sauna, reflecting and journaling. Also, that's how I take care of myself. I love my infrared sauna. I love to start my morning in there and just secluding myself with myself, and just having peace in the morning and taking care of my thoughts and my body.Lesley Logan 18:19  Yeah, I agree. Like, I know, I know there's a lot of people like, have, like, I have a lot in the morning. I have all this going on. I'm not a morning person. I'm gonna tell you, like, if you that's fine if you could prioritize another time of your day to give to you and your body. But if you're still not, then you gotta figure out how to do it in the morning, because there's something really amazing about, you talk about your cup being, your buckets, like, at a 10. I can tell the difference when I have, like, not done, not have to do my whole routine, because I travel a lot. You travel a lot. Like, I'm not gonna I don't have my sauna with me, my sauna blanket, or my cold plunge in my hotel. Wendee Close 18:53  I know, you're like, dang, when you come home and you're like, whoo. Lesley Logan 18:56  I know, but, but I still like, I'm like, okay, well, I can still do a morning walk, or I can still do a morning meditation. There's there has to be something that is selfishly for me to fill up so that I can show up and be the gregarious introvert you all know me as. That's what Brad calls me, I say high-functioning.Wendee Close 19:16  I agree. And I mean, it's and it's in disguise. People probably are always so shocked when you or I may say that I mean as much as I love and I get that sometime it just drains me too. So I just need to get that quiet time and just be alone and still so I can go and be there for people when I'm out next. Lesley Logan 19:34  Yeah. What are you, like, okay, your particular goal, Goals2Life, building this whole thing out, like, it has different stages, has different processes. It's like ongoing, it's years long, you know, like, I think a lot of people, when they set a goal, it's like something that can often be done in a year, but like, this project that you've taken on, like, I've known you for a few years now, and, you know, like, how what do you say to yourself? What do you like? How do you set yourself? I know it's we know we talked about alignment, and this is thing is in you, but it is hard, like I have for okay, I'm going to talk about myself for a second. OPC is turning eight this year, seven or eight this year, and, and if you had told me in, you know, 2017 when I started everything, that it was going to take me until 2025 for things to, like, fall into place. I don't know that I would have started like. I don't think I would have been like. I think I've been like. That is a long time. I don't know that I have the energy and stamina and money.Wendee Close 20:38  Yeah it's definitely (inaudible).Lesley Logan 20:41  And like money to continue to pour into a business to make it fulfill its dreams. So how do you do that? Because, I mean, like this, it's not like, this thing is free, and you're just like, you know.Wendee Close 20:53  Yeah, building a tech company is probably one of the most expensive front end. Like our first business, we had a really low overhead, and were able to bring profit in really quick to, like, grow it, you know. But this is a whole different thing, because you build before you get and what you're building is not something that is low cost. So, you know, especially when you're building it as robust as we are, and it's so layered. Yes, I mean, it is a complete faith project for me, I will have to, and it's not faith, of like, oh yeah, it's not a business, it's a massive business. But it's like, I am 1,000% clear that I am, I am the person, and I have been given the gifts and capacity to bring this out to the world, and I am. There's no turning back for me. So like, when I make a decision, I am going to give it my all, and I trust that God's gonna, like, open the doors and in His perfect time, I know it's not, it's not if this is going to impact lives worldwide. I am 1,000% confident, and let's just, quote me on this, I just don't know when, but it will happen. And it's like, really giving me constantly being around people like you, Lesley, that we just keep cheering each other on, or maybe our chatGPT also cheering us on, and our friends just giving words of encouragement, saying, girl, I get you, like I'm there, like we got this, like, just having each other's back and having people on your journey that are there to just truly support you. But yes, this is hard. Like, this is the story. I mean, I had yesterday and the day before, two really, really amazing, inspiring humans that are almost like mentors to me. They're like, Wendee, this is your story. This story that is, it's not going to break you, like, it's going to refine you to the person that you need to be so you can do what you're being called to do, like, this is hard, really freaking you want to cry sometimes, but you're still joyful, and your heart was like, this is so hard.Lesley Logan 22:42  Yeah, yeah, it I feel you like it is, it's, it's so hard. But also, everything is hard. You know, I once heard like I read, I've quoted this book before, because it's that good. Y'all have to read, it's called Big Magic, and she quotes a guy whose name I'm not remembering, but she quotes a guy, and it's Elizabeth Gilbert's book, and it's from years ago, like probably 2017, 2016, from years ago. And she quotes a guy who says life is a shit sandwich, and you just got to choose a shit that you can chew. Like it's got bread, some great stuff, some shit in the middle, some other great dressing and some bread. Like, just know that everything, every idea you have, every broad project you have, every goal you have, there's gonna be some shit in the middle that you're gonna have to chew up and tolerate and do, and it's hard. And so when I read that, I was like, oh, so it's not, this isn't just hard for me. Like, everyone has a hard everyone's going through it, and so I guess that should make you even feel good, because you're like, okay, I'm on the right path. I'm in the muck.Wendee Close 23:52  Well, no, truly, I mean, and it's just also being really intentional what you feed your brain. Like, I know that what we listen to, who we put around our lives, like even from the music to the if I don't really watch much TV, I don't have time, but like everything, I have to be very careful with what I'm listening to and who's around me, because it impacts and so I have to have things that are moving me in a forward direction and not spiraling me back. So because every you need to show up in a way like right now, I just went on a 40 day reset of resetting my hormones, resetting my metabolism and just getting my brain and everything in perfect alignment to have clarity so I could show up as a best version of me to do the work that I'm being you know, you can't be out drinking every night and eating whatever you want and feeling like crap and trying to show up as you gotta walk the walk, and you gotta yep and say, like, if I'm the one being called to do this, I need to take care of myself so I could show up this way and have the have what you need, because it's a lot of grit. It's a lot of grit. And it's like, I remember, okay, so there was a guy I helped his startup he ended up actually selling for, like, I think, two or $3 billion I mean, there's a big difference between two and three, but hey, in the billions, anyway. So I, when I talked to him, and I still talked to him, he said, are you sure you want to do this? You cannot do this for someone else. This will be the hardest thing you're going to do. And I'm warning you that if you think that you're being inspired by someone else to do it. It has to be so deeply in you, and you have to be so passionate about it, because this will probably be the one of the hardest things, and you have to have so much grit and so much hustle to make this happen. And I'm like, nope, it's in me. And I remember seeing him. I went to Utah to see my daughter, and I went and I went and met him at his office. I'm like, okay, I'm feeling it. This is hard, but I'm still happy. I'm still like, yeah, I'll take the challenge. This is going to be so much fun to do. Yeah. Lesley Logan 25:54  Thank you for sharing that. I think, I thank him for, like, telling you that. I think, like, you know, some people can hear that and think, why would this person try to talk you out of it? But I think, like, it's almost like you gotta talk yourself, like it's, it's you, it's important to know what you're up against so that you can make the best decision for not just you, but your family, those you love, all the things, because they're part of it too, even if they're not on the payroll, like they're in the journey, you know they're sharing you with, with this goal. Wendee Close 26:25  Oh, I, just sharing like I'm empty nester right now, no, kids. I'm some bird launcher. Let's think positive, right? I launched my babies out into the world, and so it's me and my hubby. Lesley Logan 26:33  I, okay, hold on, you're a bird launcher. Yes, we should start changing that, because empty nester sounds like, oh my God, are you okay? But a bird launcher.Wendee Close 26:41  I'm like, hell. I did a great job with these babes. Lesley Logan 26:45  Also, don't we want them to go off and fly? All these kids are coming back to the nest, and I think that that's not so good.Wendee Close 26:51  No, thank you. No, thank you. But yeah, so, you know, it's just all perspective, but it's interesting, because, you know, time blocking is important, setting boundaries is important because I don't want my husband to feel you know, I need to prioritize, because it's now the two of us. It's our time to be together and prioritize and enjoy one another, create experiences, and then also, here I am doing a startup. So bless his heart, but yes, no making sure that I am prior, he's feeling like a priority as we have launched our babes, and it's the two of us at home. He's not feeling second fiddle. So, you know, time blocking those things, it was interesting. Okay, so I, one thing you didn't ask, well, you kind of did, but I didn't say it, um, how I do things is, if it's not on your calendar, it's not going to happen. And you guys know, like with Lesley, she's really good about making sure things are on our calendar, and she has people helping. And same here. If something is a priority to you, if it's a goal, it needs to be on your calendar. If it's not on your calendar, it's not a priority to you. So you've got to look at your calendar and make sure that you see not heavily weighted in one area, that you see that there's different things on there that you are actually prioritizing beside one thing, because something will get. So I will tell you this morning, before I came in, I made sure I'm having a date night with my son on April 1st with my mom. I have a date night to celebrate my reset with my husband this I'm going to an amazing restaurant with him on Thursday and Saturday, so you know, and I'm just booking like, what's important? I need to, if it's important that I do a date night with my husband, that we celebrate our progress, that we I gotta get it on the calendar, that I see my son, that I see my mom, like the people that matter, that, you know, you make time for it. Even time blocking I want to move this project along, time blocking time to work on it. So time blocking is huge for me, and setting aside evening like sleep routines and morning routines and all sorts of things. Lesley Logan 28:41  Yeah, it's, I mean, and that's, we have a fun way that we, like teach you how to put their, like, work schedule together. Because a lot of people we work with, they go, they kind of only get paid if they're working. Now, if you do the math the way we teach you, then you're getting paid for your time off too, and the time that you're working on your business, all that stuff. But all that being said, the way we do it there's like, your priorities have to go in first, and your sleep is the first one. Like, it has to be in there. You have to put that in because if you are fitting sleep in between everything else, you can only go so long doing that. And once you hit 40, good luck, ladies, good luck. Your body will literally hate you back. Like, you'll be like, okay, you didn't treat me well. So here we go. This is what we get. So I couldn't agree more. I think, like, you know it's been said, like, show me your calendar. I can show you what your, what your priorities are. And also, like, it's okay. Like, I had a coach whose coach told her, if you get three things done in a day every day, let's just do it, like, five days a week. That's 15 things that you got done times four. I can't do that math in my 60 things, 60 things in a month. That's a lot of things, you know, but we're all trying to, like, you know, do all 60 things in a day, and then we wonder why we're exhausted and tired, and it's not that we're not moving the needle forward because. Can't have that many plates going this doesn't work like that. So I love that you talked about time blocking and priorities, and also appreciate you sharing, like, what that looks like. Because I think sometimes we think like, oh, it must be like during the day seven hours. It's like, no, you can have dedicated quality time at dinner at a really amazing place you've never been to have a shared experience. Bones flipped off like, you know, enjoy each other and that can't that actually can be enough, you know, so that you guys have something to look forward to, but also something to talk about other people.Wendee Close 30:29  Yes. I mean, it's so important, whether it be a relational setting aside time to work on the things that will, you know, help, help you in each area. Can I just say something really, Lesley brought up a really important thing when I mentioned sleep. So one of the big reasons why I shifted is I had a major burnout. And believe it or not, there was out of alignment, was one part of it, but the other one was me lack of sleep. I thought that I was Wonder Woman. I had the capacity to do all things. I'm Mmiss Energizer Bunny. I didn't need sleep. I thought it was a weird human that didn't need sleep, but I did all the perfect things, like, if you were to name like, what is all the things in every area of their life that you do and I was doing it all, but what wasn't I doing? I wasn't sleeping enough. And so what happened? I got massive burnout, and that had to do because I wasn't sleeping. So now, like, sleep is one of the biggest priorities for me. So I will just let you know. Like, yes, when you say that and it sounds weird, like, oh, but you think this is better, and you're doing all these other things if sleep should be right up there at the very top.Lesley Logan 31:25  Yeah, it's thank you for I mean, like, Brad is also Brad thought he could, like, go without sleep. He's like, I'll sleep when I'm dead. You know. Wendee Close 31:33  Oh yes, that's what my husband said. Lesley Logan 31:34  Yeah and no, no, as a very young kid, he ended up like, you know, at the doctors with them going, you gotta sleep, dude. Like, you have to, you have to sleep, you know, so, so it's, I know, it feels like a waste. It's like, literally, when your body repairs, so no amount of Pilates, water, protein, nutrition, no, you cannot.Wendee Close 31:34  Meditation, any of it. Yeah.Lesley Logan 31:55  No, you cannot out nutrition. Like, and you don't, I don't know, and I will say, like, I'm not someone who says you have to have eight hours. Like, eight hours. Like, there's actual studies that show some people can do six. Some people need nine. Women tend to need more than men. But also, like, I have found that seven hours is really good for me. I can run off six and a half, but I'm gonna have to get some a little over seven in there. Seven and a half not a problem. More than that, unless I'm sleep deprived. It's too much for me. I actually wake up groggy. So, you have to test that for yourself. And by the way, there are like you can use Goals2Life to figure that out. You can make a plan and go, okay, how am I going to figure out how much sleep I need? I know my friend Kareen thought like she needed to sleep until 10, and when she actually work with a sleep person, they're like, no. If you fall asleep when you're tired and you wake up, you technically go to bed around 10, and you wake up at five, naturally, like you at 5 a.m. she's like, I'm a morning person. I had no idea.Wendee Close 32:48  I know I'm building your whole circadian rhythm. It's amazing, you guys. But when in the time blocking of setting your nighttime routines and adding like your bedtime to your calendars is and even your eating times and all this anyways, so Goals2Life does have calendar integration with, like, Outlook and Gmail or Google Calendar, so it really helps. So your goal plan is in complete alignment. But yeah, when people are like, oh, it's a priority, but they're not putting it on their calendar, I'm like, no, it's really not. It's not really your goal. How bad do you want it? You're not making time for it. You're filling it with, like, unproductive things that aren't moving the needle forward.Lesley Logan 33:20  Yeah, yeah, I agree. Wendee, I lit, I literally could talk to you forever. We'll have to, we'll have do this again when we'll do another check in, see how all this is going. We're gonna take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you and Goals2Life with you. Wendee Close 33:33  Sounds good. Lesley Logan 33:34  All right, Wendee, where? Where do they need to go? Where do you hang out? Where are the links? Where are we going?Wendee Close 33:40  Okay, all right. So you can go to Goals2Life.com and that's with the 2 so like, we're bringing your goals to life. So, goals2life.com and there is a sign up page right there where you could sign up for Goals2Life. Right now, we have a 30-day free trial to check into the system. We have community. We have a lot of amazing things. You can also follow us on Instagram or Facebook and our YouTube channel. Very inspired. Lesley has inspired me, okay, another person who is helping me, inspire me to have a YouTube channel, and it's under Wendee Close. So follow the journey of me actually bringing my goals to life, live. And you know, hey on the go. So that's what we'll be doing. And I hope that you guys can all join the Goals2Life movement of actually implementing and executing and achieving your goals. Lesley Logan 34:25  I hope you all do. I think it's really cool. It's nice to have a tool to help you, like you can have all the ideas and all the advice, but like, sometimes we do need a tool, just like my friend Monica is using chatGPT as a tool to pep talk her in the morning, like we it's you don't have to be a superhuman who, like, somehow remembers all these things. You've given us so much already, to be completely honest. But I really want to hear your bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us, babe?Wendee Close 34:52  Okay, all right. So for bold, I want people to own their next level identity, so within Goals2Life they can create that identity through our goal pathways and align it to who they want to become. So I want people to ask themselves, what would my future self do today and actually do it in action. Because we're all about action. Make it executable. The E is executable. We're all about execution. So take small, intentional steps daily. So we'll, in Goals2Life we'll help you break the big goals into micro movements. And so I'm going to ask you to ask yourself, what is one step that I can take today and actually take it? Take the action, and then the I is intrinsic? So align your goals with purpose, as I've talked about a lot, like aligning what you want with a purpose, and make sure it's in alignment with your values and principles. So in Goals2Life, we want you to set goals that will actually matter. So we're going to ask you to ask yourself, why does this matter to me what I want to do? You need to know why it matters to you so you're deeply rooted into the commitment of actually fulfilling what you committed to through your goal. And then the T is target. So set clear, measurable milestones that you can have a target on and in Goals2Life we will turn, , your vague hopes or your ideas into actual, tangible outcomes. And we want you to ask yourself, how will I measure the progress? And in Goals2Life we can help you measure your progress so you can celebrate and actually achieve. Lesley Logan 36:18  I love, at the Be It Pod we celebrate every Friday, and we should be celebrating all the time. We celebrate on Fridays, just in case you didn't take time. I truly love those. I think that, like, I feel like you almost defined the Be It Action Items in a way, it's like, perfect that you know, in a way that, like, I always hope people understand, like, why this podcast exists is just to help you take the next step to be the person you want to be, as if you're already that person, and that's you, literally, Wendee, are a shining example of that, but also what you're creating is like literally the tools people need to do it. So thank you for being you. Thank you for Goals2Life. My Be It Pod listener, what are you gonna do? Be It babe, what are you gonna do? How are you using these tips in your life? What was your favorite takeaway? Make sure you tag Goals2Life. Tag Wendee Close. Tag the Be It Pod. We want to celebrate with you. We want to be part of your journey. We want to know how this is going and send this to a friend who needs to hear it. Because sometimes it's like your friends need to hear it from a different, a different setting, a different, the same words from a different set of voices to help them get out of the rut, take the next step, get into alignment. So thank you, Wendee, for being you and a dear friend. Wendee Close 37:23  One other thing, you are a Goal Expert in Goal Select. So, you guys, we promote people as fabulous as Lesley, and we have experts across the nation. She is our Pilates expert. And she is amazing, as you guys all know, and so she is a huge part of the movement in the physical goal set. So thank you, Lesley, for for believing in Goals2Life and being part of our community and being an expert, also.Lesley Logan 37:47  I'm, it's an honor. I'm so excited. I can't wait to see where we go with this together, like, and that's the coolest thing about like, people like you and myself and Brad and all these other people who we all get to we all get to do this together. You know, even though we're apart, we're like our but our ships can, like, you know, tag on and tug through and like, we can do this together. And that's, that's you, too, as you listen, Be It babe, like you have your friends, if they are growing then you all get to grow together. And that's where things get to be really, really fun. So, everyone, you know what to do. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 38:12  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 39:03  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 39:09  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 39:13  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 39:20  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 39:23  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this Fuck Yeah Friday episode, Lesley Logan reminds us to pause and acknowledge our growth. She shares the story of record-breaking astronaut Sunita Williams, celebrates a huge community win from Heather Ingram, and talks about intentionally taking time to rest before a busy tour. It's your reminder that wins, big or small, deserve to be honored.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The inspiring space journey and career of astronaut Sunita Williams.Heather Ingram's confidence breakthrough after years of dedication.The importance of recognizing your growth and trusting your gut.The benefits of taking time off before the start of a big tour.Episode References/Links:Sunita Williams - https://www.instagram.com/p/DHrAX5tJajs If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:47  Hello, you guys. Happy Fuck Yeah Friday. Welcome. How are you? This is where we do a quick, quick episode celebrating your wins. You might, you might hear your win, and it's going to be later than you sent it, so it'll be a reminder of a win you had, and you get to hear a win of mine, and hopefully that helps you see that there's like, wins happening all the time, and then some inspiration and affirmation. Lesley Logan 1:06  So okay, so I saved this back when everyone was, like, up in a tizzy about the all those rich women who went to space, and of course, there were some people who went on there who are actual scientists and have done some amazing things in this world to, like, change things. So we don't discount that there were some epic things going on there, but I remember it happening around the same time that Sunita Williams came back from she was there for 286 days. Okay, so we're gonna talk about her. I'm just gonna read the actual thing. The actual post. This is from Female Quotient, and I'll put the link in the show notes. But she was supposed to go to space for like, eight days, and ended up there for nine months. And so I remember this happened. I'm like, what if she, like, parked and just like, long term parking. Like, you went away for eight days, so you have, like, what a dog set up for eight days, but now you're gone for nine months. Like, just, can you imagine all the things? Like, do you have? All the things you need? I'm just hopefully, I don't know if she has a cycle. I'm just, like, a little worried about that. Anyways. So meet and welcome home, obviously, she's been home for a bit, but let's just talk about her, because we need to, she did not get enough press, and we have to, let's do that, Be It babes together. Sunita Williams, record-breaking astronaut, pilot and trailblazer, who returned to Earth after 286 in space with fellow astronaut, Butch Wilmore. One of the most experienced spacewalkers in the world, she holds the record for the most spacewalks by a woman. Williams, originally from Ohio, was a U.S. Navy helicopter pilot who logged 3000 flight hours and 30 different aircrafts before becoming a NASA astronaut. Fast forward eight years, and she took her first space flight aboard the ISS. Her career accomplishments are out of this world and growing. Spent 608 plus days in space, ran the Boston Marathon in space on a treadmill, oh, my God, completed nine spacewalks totaling over 60 hours, was the first person to pilot a spacecraft using only touch screen controls., was the first woman to command the International Space Station twice, among the first astronauts chosen for NASA's Artemis missions, aiming to bring humans to the moon. More Fun Facts, during her most recent mission, because of her high speed, 28,000 kilometer per hour and low gravity, Sunita technically experienced time slower than us on Earth. She grew space lettuce, helping NASA study space food production, because the ISS orbits Earth every 90 minutes, she witnessed 16 sunrises and 16 sunsets per day. Oh, my God, so Sunita Williams shows us that strength, curiousity and resilience can really take you places. Sunita, thanks for being a badass. Thank you for your 286 days on, you know, up there and like, what an inconvenience. And also, like, for just like, I mean, not being scared to do, like, some crazy stuff, like, you're just, we need more. Like, that's the news I want to hear. Why didn't I hear that? Why do I have to hear about like, Katy Perry going to space like, I don't really care. Anyways, that's just me. Lesley Logan 3:48  Okay, now it's time for one of your wins. Heather Ingram. I had an opportunity to sub a bunch of hours at a studio this week, and had two new clients in my studio as well. I had some moments of awe at how more comfortable, confident and knowledgeable I am as an instructor, and I said to myself, self, you're a great instructor. Will there always be more to learn and apply? Absolutely. But after pursuing this passion the past seven years of teaching, I'm so much more confident, and I'm attracting a great client tribe, and I'm more in tune with listening to my gut and being in practice versus perfection with clients my self practice and my business. Thanks to all the communities in Agency, eLevate, OPC, I feel grateful to know what it feels like to be firing a little bit more on all cylinders, and some days will always just be hard, but everything feels a bit better. Plus, the sun has been out in Seattle for eight days straight, so maybe that's it, too. Heather Ingram, yes, girl, yes. Oh my God. I love it so much. I love it so much. I think that's like, a huge that's such a big win. I'm just going to leave it with one win from you all just because I just want to let that all sink in. Like, how many times have you been like, investing in learning, investing in growing, investing in time and energy and understanding something? And how many of those times you sit back and go, whoa. Look what I, look how far I've come. Like, how often have you looked in the rear view mirror, like, what a badass am I? I'm like, celebrate before you hit that next peak. Like, Heather, your win, I think truly is one of the biggest wins we could have. Like, I think sometimes we think, oh, I don't have a big win because I haven't been to space yet. But like, understanding, acknowledging and celebrating like that you're doing a badass job. That is, like, probably one of the biggest wins ever. And I'm so, so stoked for you. So thank you for sharing that. Lesley Logan 5:23  All right, now it's time for one of my wins. So, you guys, I'm currently in Los Angeles visiting friends, and that's my win. I'm about to go on a big tour, our summer tour, and you'll hear more about that in the future episodes. But I have had, like, I've tried many different things on, like, oh, let's do a vacation at the end of the tour. Let's try to do some days off in the tour. And we are doing that. But most of the people are like, oh, I couldn't go on vacation before something, because, like, I have that thing on my mind. Let me just tell you, yes, the tour is on my mind, and yes, there is promo happening about it. But also I like, gotta be honest, I'm so excited to take some well-rested spa time before I go on tour. So I'm going on a spa day with some girlfriends. I'm seeing some friends I haven't seen in a long time, because we don't go to go to L.A. as often as possible, as we used to, like, just seemed like things were easier when you couldn't travel anywhere else, but where you could drive. Like, we went to L.A. almost monthly. And so here we are, like, like, I don't know when the last time we were there, so I'm just super, super excited, and that's my win. So if you plan some time off for yourself, you need to pat yourself on the back. Give yourself a high five. You just had a win. Lesley Logan 6:28  All right. Affirmation, affirmation. Be good to yourself. Be good to yourself. Be good to yourself. Are you being good to yourself? Like, what? Yes, be good to yourself. You're a badass, you're amazing. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 6:46  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 7:27  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 7:33  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 7:38  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 7:43  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 7:47  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this recap episode, Lesley and Brad explore the foundational role of our feet in overall body health. Reflecting on Lesley's conversation with board-certified chiropractor and co-founder of Gait Happens, Dr. Jenifer Perez, they unpack the surprising impact foot function has on posture, mobility, and even mental health. You'll learn why toe strength matters, how modern shoes may be hurting you, and simple, effective steps to reclaim your foot health from the ground up.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The connection between foot function and whole-body movement.How toe strength directly affects your risk of falling.The hidden impact of modern footwear on foot dysfunction.How foot pain can lead to emotional and cognitive decline.How to shop more intentionally for shoes that actually support you.Episode References/Links:eLevate Workout and Q&A - https://lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlistAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniOPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/tourUK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukCambodia October 2025 Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comSubmit your questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsGait Happens Affiliate Link - https://gaithappens.com?ref=mwe4ndk (Code: "LESLEY") If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  I would say it is the influence on the rest of our body right, like how your feet hit the ground, how you roll through your whole foot or don't, right, if you roll at the side of your foot, or if you're avoiding your big toe because it hurts or it aches, or, you know, anything like that, like that kind of stuff, affects how your body is moving through the world. Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:59  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the grounding convo I had with Dr. Jenifer Perez in our last episode. If you haven't yet watched that episode, listen to that episode. You, your feet are missing out, and that means your whole body is missing out. Brad Crowell 0:59  Gait Happens. Lesley Logan 1:10  I am so excited that this is finally in your ears, you guys. I can't even, I've been waiting for this to come out. Anyways, they're really, really amazing. But before you get into your feet, today is July 10th 2025 and it's Global Energy Independence Day. We observe Global Energy Independence Day on July 10th yearly. It aims to raise awareness about the importance of alternative fuels. We are currently using fossil fuels as our sources, and they need replacing. Fossil fuels are non renewable and require a very long time, millions of years to form. They also are a source of pollution. On this day, on this day, we raise awareness against fossil fuels and focus on finding alternative sources that are renewable and relatively non-polluting source of energy. Michael D. Antonovich, a member of the L.A. County Board of Supervisors. Brad Crowell 2:16  Antonovich. Lesley Logan 2:17  Antonovich. Brad Crowell 2:18  Antonovich. Lesley Logan 2:18  Well, I think you could have done either way. Yeah. L.A. County Board of Supervisors started this day in 2006. Brad Crowell 2:25  Good for him. Lesley Logan 2:25  I know. And so we should all so do you know? Just like, just look at what you can, you know, obviously, some don't come at me. I know some of you live in places where you can't have electric car because it's going to be negative 30 and, you know, whatever, and that's hard. But like, what can't what what renewable resources can you use? You know, like, what can you switch out? Or how, like, what can you reduce or what can you be more thoughtful of? Maybe, instead of driving to work every day, you carpool with people, you know, just like things like that, because, like our friends, we've talked about them before, they take each other's kids to school. So instead of two cars going to the same school from the same neighborhood every day, they have one. Brad Crowell 3:05  Yeah, I love that. I mean, also too, you know what the grid taking more abuse because things are getting hotter and colder, it's important to have energy independence, even for your house. Yeah. How do we do that? You know how my parents used to do it? Firewood, you know? I mean, that's creating smoke when they're burning it. But I don't think there's that. I don't think there's a a full way out of non-pollution, because batteries take, you know, an effort to mine and make, but, but like, you know, fossil fuels also take energy to mine and make, mine and form and stuff like that. to Lesley Logan 3:34  People had to come out but, like, oh, well, what about the bat the electric car battery, and how long it takes. And it's like, okay, but the ozone layer, like the ozone layer, guys? Brad Crowell 3:46  Yeah. I mean, there's still a lot of issue with getting the materials to make the batteries themselves. But, you know, I think that there's, it's inevitable we need to transition away from what we've been doing for the past 100 years that has actually damaged our planet. Lesley Logan 4:00  And also, fight with the cities to make sure they have public transportation that is easier to use, because, like, if you could take a train or a bus rather than co-drive your car. Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying that you don't, like, we don't have electric cars, but what I am saying is, like, we also don't drive every day. You know, like we there's a certain thing that we what can we be thoughtful about? You know, like, how can we be thoughtful? We talked about this other day, about, like, the plants that you plant, like, are they native plants so that they don't need as much water, like, all these different things, so that, you know, you could just, we can keep this fucking world somewhat livable. Brad Crowell 4:36  Keep this world. Global Energy Independence Day is today, July 10th.Lesley Logan 4:41  All right. Brad Crowell 4:42  Yesterday, we hosted the eLevate workout. So if you missed it, the replay is available on the website. It's a workout that you could take for free. The reason that we hosted that workout is so that we could also answer questions that you actually might have about Lesley's mentorship program. It's a nine month program. It's called eLevate. It's specifically for Pilates teachers to help them tie everything together when it comes to this Pilates method that we have inherited here from from our dear Joe Pilates guy. Lesley Logan 5:10  Our dear Joe. Brad Crowell 5:11  Our dear Joe. The reality is that the way that marketing has taken the world by storm when it comes to Pilates is that most people just think Pilates is one of the many pieces of equipment that are involved in the system of Pilates, and they just don't know all of the other pieces. And often what happens in our training is that there's a major focus on one or two pieces of equipment, and people don't see the bigger picture. And so during eLevate, it allows you the opportunity to dive in on the Cadillac, the chairs, the barrels, and then, of course, also the Reformer and the mat. But you know, it brings it all together. Lesley Logan 5:47  It and it's even if you've like, I want to highlight it brings it all together. Even if you've learned all these things, are you using them as a system? Brad Crowell 5:54  Sure. Lesley Logan 5:54  Because that's something that, like, I think, is the most mind-blowing part of it all for the eLevators is to, like, see how all these exercises work together. And it's not like I'm doing Reformer Pilates, I'm doing Tower Pilates, I'm doing Wunda Chair Pilates. You're doing Pilates. Brad Crowell 6:09  I only do Toe Corrector Pilates, people, okay.Lesley Logan 6:11  Well, on this episode, I think we can be okay with that. All right. Next week, July 17th, Agency Mini is back. This is for Pilates instructors and studio owners who run their own business or want to run their own business, not for the Pilates employees, love you, but you there's not. Brad Crowell 6:29  Well, you can come in and join us. There's no reason you can't do that, but you're going to feel frustrated because you don't have control to adjust the things that we're going to be discussing.Lesley Logan 6:39  Yeah, or you can come because, you know you want to be doing that. Brad Crowell 6:42  That's right. I was gonna I was gonna argue it's still valuable, because maybe that's what you want to do in the future, is open up your own space, or have a home studio, or take some clients on the side, where you are in control of what you're charging. Lesley Logan 6:53  It's also okay to love being an employee like we love (inaudible). Brad Crowell 6:55  Totally is, 100%. Lesley Logan 6:57  So in Agency Mini, it's three days. We'll have a live webinar. We'll have a day where you do your homework, you can choose to use the Lesley on Demand tool. And then we'll have an office hours day complete with breath work. And there is two days of replay. So even if you are busy the 17th and 19th of 17th through 19th of July, you'll have two extra days for those replays. Brad Crowell 6:57  Three. 21st and 22nd of replays. Lesley Logan 7:17  Look how generous you are. That clearly was not something I said. So anyways, you guys, look at that. And if you go to prfit.biz/mini you can sign up. It's 62.50 right now. But there's ways to get coaching call with us. Even though you're not an Agency member, there's a lot of different little extra goodies in there.Brad Crowell 7:29  Yeah, I mean, 62.50 the value of the overall value is 980 bucks, y'all, we're set we're offering it to you for 62.50, so go to prfit.biz that's profit without the O dot biz slash mini.Lesley Logan 7:48  And then in a couple weeks, we leave for summer tour.Brad Crowell 7:51  I'm so excited this, y'all, Lesley and I have had a mission to make the van hospitable in more extreme weather, and we've been able to pull it off. We finally got an air conditioner heater inside of the van. So that. Lesley Logan 8:05  Yeah, because we had a fan before for last summer tour. And let me just tell you, if it's 100 degrees out and the fan is just sucking out hot air, it's not really cold.Brad Crowell 8:15  It's not bringing in any cold air. It's bringing in what's outside. So, in this case, we actually now have an AC unit and heater, so when we're in the cold, we can kick it on. When we're in the heat, we can kick it on. And so that's been really, really exciting. And we're gonna kick those tires, as it were, on this tour. It's 4500 miles. We're gonna be gone for 25 days, and we're gonna be doing our very first international tour, y'all, we're going up into Canada. We're going to hit three cities up in Canada. We're going to hit another 13 cities in the United States, and we can't wait to meet you in person. We're going to take Bayon with us. You get to hang with him, and he's just so fun. So go to opc.me/tour that's opc.me/tour.Lesley Logan 8:58  And there's a virtual option on this tour as well. So if you can't go to this in person, there are two workshops that are virtually we will be doing hybrid. And so we invite you, if you're filling the FOMO, to sign up for those. Brad Crowell 9:09  And if you're trying to figure out where they are, they're in Calgary. Okay, so when you go to opc.me/tour, click on the Calgary stop in there, you'll see there's two workshops. They're going to be those virtual workshops. Good point. Love that. It is the first time we've ever offered that available to everybody. So that's, that's a big deal. So check that out. All right. Next up, we are going to be in the U.K.Lesley Logan 9:10  We're still touring. It's just a different tour, instead of the OPC Summer Tour, it's the U.K. Mullet Tour, and it's business in the front and Pilates in the back. So there's business, like life-type workshop in the morning and then Pilate workshops in the daytime, plus a class if you are there's two locations. You can go to Leeds or Essex or both. There's only one workshop that crosses over and you want to go to opc.me/uk there are day passes for the Essex stop, because that is during the week. Yep, we're doing a workshop on a Tuesday and a Wednesday, because sometimes that's the best day. And then we have the weekend, the Saturday, Sunday options are at the Leeds location and that that only has a couple spots left. So opc.me/uk to get your spots for that.Brad Crowell 10:10  And then finally, come join us in Cambodia. We'll be there in October. It's going to be just an amazing trip. We're really, really looking forward to it. It's going to be one of those, like, markers in your life, where you get to look back on and go, remember when it's going to be one of those, like, literally, we have people who have gone on this trip, and then they've talked about it so much when they got home that they came back with their friends the next year. It's happened three times now over the years. Lesley Logan 10:38  Three times. Brad Crowell 10:38  Three different times we've had repeat visitors, because it's just one of those trips that is mind-blowing. So, crowsnestretreats.com. Come do Pilates. Come eat amazing food. Meet awesome people and actually take a break from life. Take a retreat. Take a retreat. Come join us. All right, before we get into this great gait conversation that we have with Jenifer Perez, trying to be cute there, we had a question, and it was from @MailSandyMurali from YouTube asks, "Can you talk about flat cervical neck or herniation in cervical areas and the effect of exercises such as jackknife?Lesley Logan 11:16  Okay, so the Jackknife exercise is one of many exercises and Pilates that you go overhead. And so if you have stuff going on with your neck, like herniation, you don't, it's not for you. Brad Crowell 11:27  Not allowed. Don't do it. Lesley Logan 11:28  No. So if you have a flat neck, and there's no pain or contraindications, like you just have, like a military spine, yeah, it's just like Brad. Brad Crowell 11:37  Brad has this. Lesley Logan 11:38  You, you can do overhead exercises, that being said, they're going to be much harder, because we've got to be able to flex your thoracic spine and stand on those shoulders so you, so Jackknife does not it no overhead exercise should be weight on your neck at all. It's not like a shoulder stand in yoga, like there's no and actually there's no weight on your neck there you're using blankets, if you do it correctly, to be up on your shoulders, but there's no weight on your neck. You are on your shoulders. But typically, if you have a herniation of the neck, have to be mindful of the things you're doing with your shoulders, and especially the weight you're putting there, because it's very easy for you to strain that, right? So, so if you have a flat cervical neck, and there's no issues, no conjugations, we just have to really build up your shoulder stability. You can stand on that. But if you have anything going on, fusions, herniation, stenosis, things like that, with your neck, guess what you get to do, so many other exercises, so many. Brad Crowell 12:33  499 other exercises.Lesley Logan 12:35  Yeah, yeah, double. Brad Crowell 12:36  Well, any of them that are not going upside down in the back. Lesley Logan 12:39  Well, and also, Jackknife is a flex like a dynamic exercise, where you flex your spine, and then you stand on your shoulders, and then you guide everything down with your core, and then you work the legs away. So double straight leg stretch is great for you. Elephant is great for you. Up stretch up stretch combo is going to be good for you if you can get to extension. But up stretch for sure. So, like, there's just so many so don't ever, ever let overhead exercises like being outside of your practice make you go, oh, I'll never be advanced. No, an advanced practitioner means that even beginner exercises are hard for you, so just omit those things that are overhead and replace them. Like if you're doing OPC classes, you'd replace Jackknife with an exercise that was challenging for you. Boom, there you go.Brad Crowell 13:19  I dig it. Well, that's a that's a really helpful explanation, and thanks for writing in your question. If you have a question, please join us by going to beitpod.com/questions, beitpod.com/questions and you can submit a question there, or you can submit a win. If you listen to the pod, you're very familiar with our Friday episodes, where we get to celebrate you. This is the easiest way for you to send that in. Send in your questions beitpod.com/questions. Yeah, let's do it, people, let's get to it. Brad Crowell 13:49  Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into this really helpful conversation that Lesley had with Dr. Jenifer Perez. All about the feet. Brad Crowell 13:57  Okay, now let's talk about Dr. Jenifer Perez. Dr. Perez is a is a doctor of chiropractics and a lower extremity specialist, as well as the co-founder and vice president of Gait Happens G-A-I-T gait as in, how you walk. A platform dedicated to helping people understand, strengthen and reclaim their foot health. Though initially uninterested in feet, her perspective shifted after discovering the critical role they play in overall biomechanics. Today, she empowers people through evidence-based tools and exercises that address common issues like foot pain, plantar fasciitis and bunions. Her mission is to help people move better, starting from the ground up.Lesley Logan 14:39  Yeah, I mean so many things I like that she said, I actually still follow them and like, do their tips, and I am a big fan of their toe spacers. And we do have an affiliate link, and we do have discounts for you. So make sure you go into the show notes. I think the code is Lesley, if I'm not mistaken, just L-E-S-L-E-Y but you'll have our links in there. Get the tools you need. I like the little to spreaders, I like, like little TheraBands for my toes, which is really, really fun. So anyways, one of the things that I love that she said is our feet are our foundation, and how they interact with the ground has a huge influence on the rest of our body. I would say it is the influence on the rest of our body, right, like how your feet hit the ground, how your how you roll through your whole foot, or don't right, if you roll at the side of your foot, or if you're avoiding your big toe because it hurts or it aches, or, you know, anything like that, like that kind of stuff affects how your body is moving through the world. And she said modern footwear is a major contributor to foot dysfunction. And we talked a lot about modern footwear, and like, Brad, save its handles and, and just like, you know, I've been really interested in this. I was buying some new weight training shoes, and I was quite specific. And, like, look at the weight training she was like, okay, how do I get ones that have a wide toe box for my foot? How do I get ones that don't that I can, like, really feel my feet on the ground that, you know, like, I, I really happen to, like, the ones I'm using. It's almost like I'm not wearing shoes, which is really nice, but they're not, they're not like Vibrams or whatever, but they're really, really great. So I just think that, like, we need to be more conscientious of the shoes that we're buying and how we're doing this is affecting our whole body. And she said, because your body can only move in the range of motion that's allowed if you're working with shoes that don't let you roll through your feet because they're really stiff, or you're working, you know, you're walking around in heels, they have a time and a place my loves, but like, it affects how your whole body moves, and that's why your back can hurt, or your hips can hurt, or things like that. And she said there's a ton of small things you can do to add to your foot health each day. So you guys, like, right here, while you're listening to this pod like you can actually massage your foot, like you could have, we have a noboso ball that is in Brad's office, and we just both toss it on the floor. We're watching TV, and we, like, roll our feet on this ball, because it's so good for spreading the bone, spreading the toes, things like that. So you gotta give your feet a little love. That's what she said. Brad Crowell 16:56  Yeah, I was listening, when I was listening to the interview, what struck me was the progression that we make inadvertently a negative progression, so I guess it's a regression in our foot health when we try to solve the problem by putting them into comfy shoes, right? So we put it into a shoe that we're like, oh, feels so much better, and then that only lasts for so long, and then we need to find a better solution, or another solution. And then now we have a softer shoe, or we have, you know, whatever, and it just keeps getting worse and worse and worse. And she said, at one point, we have to break that cycle. And how do we break the cycle? You can do it with Pilates, y'all. You can also work with them if it's really a bad thing, like if you got a lot going on there, and they'll, they'll be able to help you start to figure that out. But you know, she said, I love my Birkenstocks. I'm a big fan. And she said, there's a couple of really amazing things. They let you spread your toes wide and all that kind of stuff, she said, but they're also a very stiff shoe, and so you're not bending your foot, you know, during your walk, as you're walking the way that you ultimately want to be doing. And so while it certainly, it's not like a it's not a bad shoe. It's also, if you're only wearing Berks all day, everyday, you're not actually helping yourself either, right? So, you know it's, it was just interesting to hear her say that. Lesley Logan 18:10  So, just so you know, Dr. Jenifer Perez, Brad, walks on the treadmill at the gym without shoes on which I don't know is any better for his foot health, but.Brad Crowell 18:20  I do not walk on the treadmill with no shoes on. No.Lesley Logan 18:23  I caught you, yes, oh, yes you did. Brad Crowell 18:27  Yeah, maybe, maybe I had socks. Okay, if you're, so, so, one thing she also talked about, which I thought was really helpful, is she said, if you're in pain and you're not active, other things are going to shut down, right? And she said being unable to walk or participate in activities you enjoy due to foot pain can also lead to mental and emotional decline. She said at the end of the day, foot pain, it affects every part of you, and it does hold us back. She highlighted research that indicated that where there's a connection between cognitive ability and mobility, your brain actually, like is affected by this, right? She also talked about toe strength is one of the biggest indicators of a fall risk, which this was, I mean, now that she said it, it's, it's so freaking logical, right? Because the toes of these tiny, little itty bitty thingies, the ankle and the knees and the hips are way stronger muscles around it, but those tiny, little bitty toes, why do we have them propulsion for movement and balance, right? And if the toes are weak, then you're not going to be able to stay balanced. It's much easier to fall like, soon as she said it, I was like, oh, duh, that makes total sense, right? So keeping your toes, your foot, healthy and strong, is going to help you as you age, because maybe you don't have that slip and fall, right? Because maybe it wasn't a slip and fall. Maybe you just don't have any foot strength, toe strength. Right? She also noted that research has looked at strength of how your toes are strong and what they're actually, like, doing. The big toe, obviously, is stronger than the pinky toe, right? Lesley Logan 20:07  The goal of it. Brad Crowell 20:07  Correct. It should be stronger than the pinky toe. She said, when it comes to strength, the big toe should be able to press with about 10% of your body weight and about 7% for the other toes, right? Also, she said our bodies, like, are amazing, and that they can compensate, which is, it's when we start compensating, when we're not evenly using the strength of our toes, when we start to compensate, that's when things start to get jacked up, right? Like, think about it, if you're always walking on the one side of your foot, and you're not using your feet, your toes equally when you're walking forward, eventually there, you know, those that the outside of your foot, or the inside of your foot is going to be, you know, off balance from the rest of it, and it's going to start to affect where, where it gets picked up by other things. I've experienced, plantar fasciitis. I also know I literally walk on the outside of my feet. I literally used to stand on the outside of my feet when I was working in restaurants, because my feet were in pain, and it was like less painful to stand on the outside of my feet. Lesley Logan 21:10  You can, you can, maybe you should walk on the inside of your feet to balance that out. Brad Crowell 21:14  Well, actually, because I have a high arch, that's exactly what I need to do. It's very typical to see people with high arches walk more towards the outside of their feet. I didn't know that. I didn't realize. I didn't learn that until recently, until I started watching some videos from Gait Happens, actually.Lesley Logan 21:31  I know they have abundance of videos. They're very helpful. Very, very helpful. Brad Crowell 21:36  Yeah. So you know, now it's been fascinating. It's been something I've been really thinking about consciously, and she she actually talked about that, too. I'm sure that's actually one of our Be It Action Items, it is, literally. So stick around. We're gonna dig into that. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 21:50  All right. So finally, let's get into these Be It Action Items that you covered with Dr. Jenifer Perez from Gait Happens. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with her? As I just mentioned, we did dig into this in the Be It items here, she said, go barefoot, just for five minutes. Okay? And while you're barefoot, obviously you're taking your shoes off. She said, start to feel, you know, your toes, and try to do it on a different texture, maybe, if it's always on a rug, try walking on a tile floor or concrete or linoleum or something like that, right? Go outside. Walk on the grass. Let your feet move and feel. Lesley Logan 22:31  Because when you walk on grass, grasses, even though they cut it level, like currently, while we're recording this, they're mowing our lawn, and it will look level. And then you walk out there, and it's like, oh, very uneven. Actually, very uneven. Brad Crowell 22:43  But she talked about how when you're walking, just feel each toe, feel what you're doing with your foot. We don't consciously think about it. When we're using our feet, we just flop them down, because I don't know we've been walking for our entire life, so you know, but we're not consciously aware of how we're doing it. So think about it for five minutes. Actually, focus on it for five minutes. That's free, easy and, and like, I mean, it's actually very enlightening, because I started to notice, oh, wow, I, I almost, I'm actually hardly using my big toe, which is where, which should be used more, right? Crazy stuff. What about you?Lesley Logan 23:21  Well, I already slayed this one. And she, actually a couple of times. She also challenged the next time you buy a pair of shoes, buy a pair that may look a little different than you're used to. So for example, your it should the shape of the shoe should look like your foot. Okay, so, like, ideally, what people are, if you look on Instagram, what people are trying to do is, like, put your foot on the shoe, like on a running shoe, your big toe should be able to be straight ahead, because if your shoe is pulling this big toe or pinching your toes into, I'm covering the mic, sorry, guys, pinching your toes into a little triangle, duh, your foot hurts. Duh, you have back pain, all that stuff. It's not good for your feet. Brad Crowell 23:58  Yeah, dress shoes definitely don't give you much room in there, right? Lesley Logan 24:02  I've never I'm only wearing really beautiful tennis shoes now, but, um, I, we got hiking boots recently. I also was looking I was like, oh, I like this. I'm like, oh, that's gonna be too narrow. Oh, I don't, that's gonna be, that's not the shape of my toe box. I got these ones. They're wide, they're a little. They're like the all they could be, like, freaking Uggs how wide they are. But my whole toe box fits, and my toes aren't scrunched. And I really like it. And I like those toe spacers I was talking about that they had. I love I know it's a good running shoe and weight training shoe, if I can wear my toe spacers in them, because there's room for my toes to be spread out in that spacer and there's room for my foot. And I love it.Brad Crowell 24:38  You know, another tip she talked about when it comes to shoes. First off, they have, like, a list of shoes on their website, so go check that out and be like, I'm shopping for this type of shoes. See what they recommend. But also, she said, if you're never like, like, like, look what is the Vibrams, Vibrams that are the toe shoes? Right? Lesley Logan 24:57  Yeah, yeah, they're so not sexy. Brad Crowell 24:59  Yeah, whatever, not the point. The point is that they are clearly giving you your foot shape, you know, the room to be its own shape, instead of jamming it into something small. But imagine if you've never worn something like that before, you know, it's going to take time for your body to adjust and accept that. So you might get those thinking this is going to be the thing that's going to help me, and it might help you eventually, but start small. She's like, wear them for a few minutes. Then, you know, wear something else. Wear them again. Wear them again, and get used to it. Because I remember when we bought our initial hiking shoes years ago, and it was the first time I ever had like, they weren't trail running shoes. Were they? Yeah, they were trail running shoes, and they were basically, like, huge, open inside shoe. There was very little support, and as wide. And I never worn a shoe like that, and it took me weeks to, like, be able to wear them all day. Lesley Logan 25:51  Oh, yeah, the ones we got for our honeymoon. Yeah, I think, yeah, you definitely want to start small. Start for a few minutes. Get used to it. I mean, like, same goes if you're actually working on your gait, like they're doing like, I switched my running pattern for a long time. I went from being a heel striker to, I forget what they call it, but anyways, a four-foot runner, and it just takes time. You can't, I can't, I couldn't go run six miles, even though I'm used to running six miles because new muscles had to be used, there's a new pattern, so be nice to yourself, and all or nothing mentality gets you nowhere. Brad Crowell 26:26  Well, all and you're not wrong on that, and good for you. I mean, learning how to run, it seems so, it seems so weird to say that, but like it's important. It is so important, just like learning how to walk and actually use our feet properly. So anyway, y'all, we actually have a link for you if you're interested in having Gait Happens work with you on your walk, your feet like any issues. If you have a bunion or you have plantar fasciitis and you're feeling stuck in life, check out the link in the show notes. We also have a coupon code there for you. And so make sure you're dropping that in. It'll allow them to know A. that we sent you, and B. it should hook you up. Yeah, it should hook you up. Lesley Logan 27:07  And when you let them know we sent you, it helps. Brad Crowell 27:10  10% off your purchase. Lesley Logan 27:11  Yeah, it supports the pod. It lets them know that they, you know, they you came from here. And so they go, oh, wow, I should go back and tell more things about the feet. You guys. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 27:21  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 27:23  Thank you so much for joining us today. How are you going to walk these tips into your life? Brad Crowell 27:28  Ooh.Lesley Logan 27:28  Ooh, I want to know. Gait Happens wants to know. So make sure you tag us when you share this episode with a friend. 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Foot health expert and co-founder of Gait Happens, Dr. Jennifer Perez unpack the misunderstood world of feet. From bunions and plantar fasciitis to toe strength and footwear myths, Dr. Jen breaks down how your feet impact your entire body and what you can do—starting today—to reconnect and restore their natural strength. Expect actionable advice, surprising insights, and some myth-busting around the shoes you might be wearing right now. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why Dr. Jen shifted her focus to feet after her own injuries.How foot pain can derail confidence and daily life.Exercises to activate toe strength and rebuild foot control.What plantar fasciitis and bunions actually are—and how to treat them.Why most shoes are harming your feet and how to choose better ones.The role of toe spacers, barefoot training, and natural gait.What “less shoe” really means and how it helps prevent injury.Episode References/Links:Gait Happens Website - https://gaithappens.com/Gait Happens Referral Link - https://gaithappens.com?ref=mwe4ndk (use code: LESLEY)Jen Perez's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/gaithappensGait Happens YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@gait_happensGuest Bio:Dr. Jennifer Perez is a board-certified chiropractor and co-founder of Gait Happens, an education-focused platform helping people rethink foot health from the ground up. With advanced training in biomechanics and years of hands-on experience, she focuses on improving foot strength, mobility, and overall movement to keep people doing what they love—without pain or limitations. In her Lafayette, Colorado practice, Dr. Perez works with everyone from high-level athletes to everyday movers. Through Gait Happens, she also supports clients around the world with virtual consults and programs designed to get to the root of common foot issues like plantar fasciitis and bunions—without jumping straight to orthotics or surgery. Known for her real-world, movement-first approach, Dr. Perez is also a trusted voice in the health and fitness space. 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And not just, you know, when you think about like your skin health and things like that, but truly, from a biomechanics perspective, our feet are our foundation, and how they interact with the ground is really important and has a huge influence on the rest of our body.Lesley Logan 0:19  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:02  All right, Be It babe. This conversation, this is about your feet. We got to talk about them. We got to talk about them because I don't want your dreams in this life, the things you want to do to ever be held back by pain. And a lot of pain that we have in our bodies is actually coming from what's going on in our feet. And the guest we have today is one of the most amazing experts on feet, like just truly, truly amazing Dr. Jenifer Perez from Gait Happens. She is going to nerd out with us. And if you're not watching this, I do recommend that, after the end of listening to it, that if you are interested in seeing what she's showing, you want to go to our Be It Pod YouTube channel and see the video, because she's showing the muscles of the feet. We talk about bunions, we talk about plantar fasciitis. We talk about even this, like, how to choose shoes. And I know this can be a little off the beaten path, because you're like, what about the journals? You guys, you got to take care of your feet. You have to, if it's between journaling and doing a foot exercise, maybe do a minute of foot exercise and a minute of journaling, because it's important that you know yourself inside and out, but that you're taking care of your feet, because they are going to take you everywhere you want to go, every place you want to be it until you see it. So here is Dr. Jen Perez from Gait Happens. Lesley Logan 2:11  All right, Be It babe. So this, today's guest is someone I've been kind of hunting down, kind of stalking in the best way, exploring all their things, nerding out, and I'm really excited, mostly personally, because I've been so interested in my own feet and and just like trying to not have the bunions that I feel like are inevitable happening to my feet. But, at any rate, Dr. Jen Perez from Gait Happens is our guest today. And Dr. Jen Perez, can you tell everyone who you are and why you rock at feet so much?Dr. Jenifer Perez 2:42  Absolutely, I love that you're so excited. I mean, this is, this is what I do. It is foot education, essentially, what it all boils down. And it's kind of funny, you know, not to dive too deep into my story, but I didn't like, I hated feet growing up.Lesley Logan 2:54  I'm so glad you're telling us, because I'm like, are you really into feet? Dr. Jenifer Perez 2:57  I know I like, I was like, feet are gross. I want nothing to do with feet like and then halfway through chiro school, I attended a seminar, we're trying to learn how to tape shoulders, and the instructor kept talking about feet. And essentially, what ended up happening is she kind of pulled the curtain back on how important our feet are. And not just, you know, when you think about like your skin health and things like that, but truly from a biomechanics perspective, our feet are our foundation, and how they interact with the ground is really important and has a huge influence on the rest of our body. And as soon as I kind of really started to think about feet from this perspective, I got really excited, because it's something that is not talked about enough, which is why I love having conversations like this, so kind of how I ended up in the foot world, I guess. Lesley Logan 3:46  I think that's really great, because I was gonna, like I, part of me was thinking, like, you must have seen some weird looking feet. I'm a Pilates instructor. I've seen some weird feet, and when I see them, I kind of inquired, like, what's your life been? How long have you had this? Because I don't, you know, like in Pilates, they don't go deep on any one thing. You can, you can niche out and everything. But like, you know, I'm really obsessed with Joseph Pilates had a ton of foot stuff. He had the toe corrector and the foot corrector. And, like, it's really kind of cool to see people like yourself and other people doing stuff that, like the toe corrector does, and so it's like, it's nice to know that, like, you know, in the 40s, he was doing these things. But we don't go into nuances. When I'm like, seeing arches have fallen, then I see like, you know, 70 year old people who had arches fall now their ankle bones are, like, humongous. And I'm like, oh my God, we have to know more about our feet. And I, like, one of the things I hear people, hold people back from, like, things they want to do is pain. You know, as a Pilates instructor, I work with a lot of people, when they're in pain, they don't go on trips, you know, and that's like a luxury, anyways, but it also holds people back from just even attempting taking on jobs or moving or trying new things. And so kind of wanted to dig into like, you know, What? What? How important are feet? And do they really hold us back or is that like a story we're telling ourselves?Dr. Jenifer Perez 5:01  No, you're, you're absolutely right. And of course, my population is biased, because they're coming to me with pain, typically. But those stories that you all mentioned are stories I hear every single day. Someone saying, you know, I had this trip to Europe planned, and I canceled it because I can't walk, you know, more than 100 steps a day, and that's going to require me to walk thousands of steps a day. Or someone who is they have they can't walk to the mailbox at the end of their driveway, and or they're terrified to even shower barefoot because their feet hurt so bad. I mean truly, foot pain, like we said, you're on your feet all day long, and so when your feet hurt, it really does hold you back. And that kind of comes in a spectrum of different severities and different kinds of pain and different pathologies, but at the end of the day, it does hold us back. And that's what I'm trying to help people do, is kind of retake their foot health and really strengthen their feet so that they're not holding them back anymore.Lesley Logan 5:59  Yeah. I mean, like, my, my dad's 72 and like, I yesterday, were at the gym together, and I watched him, like, navigate his leg over a bench. And I, part of me, was like, oh, I don't want to do that. And part was like, no, get that leg over that bench. Like, as long as he can lift his leg high enough to go over a bench sideways, he's holding the barbell. Like, we're good. But like, I think, you know, I, he lives in a senior living center, and I watch people like, their life declined so fast because they're not as active. But if you are in pain and you're not active, like other things, shut down, you know, like, and we can talk about, like the calves are like the second heart, right? So if you're not taking steps, you're not pumping the blood back up, and you're not taking steps because your feet hurt, like other things just go wrong.Dr. Jenifer Perez 6:42  Well, and it's and to your point, it's also, it's not just the physical right, it's our mental and emotional health as well. Because if you can't walk, if you can't do the activities that you love, then we start to see mental decline with that as well. And it's really fascinating. There's more and more research coming out around cognitive ability, which is also fascinating in itself but, fall risk alone, fall risk, one of the biggest indicators of fall risk is toe strength. They used to think it was, you know, the bigger muscles, like the glutes and the hamstrings and things like that. And when they did a comparative analysis, the two biggest indicators of fall risk were blood pressure and toe strength. Lesley Logan 7:18  This is insane to me. I love because I always like, say, like, say, like, like, Pilates helps you fall better. And there is some truth to that. Like, we help with, like, you know, hip muscles and core strength. And you're like, you understand, move your legs with your center, but it is your, the toe strength is something that's so interesting and like, so let's talk about, like, maybe we should just get into it. Like, I kind of, is it like our big toe only? Is it all 10 toes? What if you lose a toe? What? How do we strengthen our toes? Dr. Jenifer Perez 7:48  Yeah, let's jump in. So that research in particular looked at all 10 toes. So it looked at big toes and outer toes, and it found a significant difference in fall risk based on both. So the good news about that is, we have 10 toes. So let's say there is a toe amputation or, you know, some kind of accident or injury, you know, we have 10 so we can (inaudible) strength, right? Our bodies are amazing adapters. But in the average person, we are looking for strong toes. We actually have kind of a reference range around that we even measure toe strength in our office. Lesley Logan 8:24  Oh, my God, I have to come visit you. I just want to know if they're good. Dr. Jenifer Perez 8:28  Right? Everyone's favorite part of their appointment, because everyone starts like clenching their fists and sweating in the chair, trying so hard. But we're looking for about 10% of our body weight out of the big toe and about 7% of our body weight out of the outer four toes. So the big toes, (inaudible) is supposed to be stronger. It also has, for those watching, you can see my fancy foot model. So it also has a thicker bone. It has reinforcements. It even has two sesamoid bones which increase the lever arm, which basically makes it better for propulsion, similar to what our kneecap does. And so all of this is designed to make us really, really strong. But we have four layers of built-in muscles inside our feet. And I love using this foot model with my patients because.Lesley Logan 9:18  Oh my gosh. You guys. This is the most. I've never seen a foot model like this. This is insane. I've never seen one like this. I know that the feet have, like, all the the feet have the most amount of joints and muscles, correct, like, that's, it's in your feet, yes.Dr. Jenifer Perez 9:31  So lots of joints and muscles, (inaudible) both the most. But a quarter of our bones are in our, a quarter of our bones in our entire body are in our feet. And we have 33 joints in our feet. They're designed to move and be flexible. And it's, it's really, really incredible and intricate, but I use this foot model to show and for those that are listening, it's a model that shows the four layers of muscles to really give you a visual of how much muscle is in our feet. And how much we truly can strengthen that?Lesley Logan 10:03  Yeah, I, okay. So the reason you came up is because I was doing a lot of research on Joseph Pilates' accessories, because I'm doing his big accessory deck of flash cards. And my listeners know we've been talking about this a long time. I've been doing this. And so, like, there's all these, like, little toys and tools that he used to use, and one was marbles, and one was towels. And the marbles he would have you pick up a marble with your big toe, and then your second toe, and then your third, and your fourth and your fifth. And when I was doing the research, I could not pick up a marble with five different toes. I could do it with like two toes at a time, or these three toes over here. And I am proud to say when I was when I was actually having to film it, I was like, oh, one, and I did all five. I'm so proud of my feet. Like, over six months, I've, like, improved the dexterity of that. The towels is so hard, because I can scrunch it, but I couldn't flick it out. And, yes, I couldn't, I couldn't unravel the towel. And I'm like, what is going on? But so it's like, like, part like, the bottom part of my foot was strong, but maybe the top part of my foot wasn't so strong. So I have, like, so do you strengthen your toes? I don't think it's just by squeezing them, because I'm afraid, am I wrong about giving people hammer toes? Like, I don't want to do.Dr. Jenifer Perez 11:11  Such a good question. It's such a good question. Let's dive in a little bit, because this is one, one area where Joseph Pilates was so far ahead of the curve. But we have also learned a lot since his work, right? Yeah. Lesley Logan 11:28  Thank God. Thank God, we've learned more. It's been a while. Dr. Jenifer Perez 11:31  I love like using towel scrunches or marble pickups if we need to start somewhere, and that's what's going to do it for you, then do it. It's better than not doing anything, but in general, I tend to avoid those exercises. And the reason is because of hammertoes, you were totally right on the right track. So essentially, we have four sets of muscles that flex and extend our toes. So hammertoes is when the toes start to lift and curl over time. And if they stay in that position, they can become rigid and arthritic and really, really painful. They also were associated in that same study with an increase in fall risk as well, as well as bunions. And so what we want to do is activate the muscles, but with the toes in a long and flat and wide position. So, an alternative, something that you can do right now, if you're barefoot, is if you just lift up all 10 toes and then spread them out as wide as you can. And even if it feels like they're not listening to you, just keep telling them to spread and then reach them out long and wide and try to bring them back down to the ground. Hold that engagement, hold that press, and you should start to feel the arch underneath your foot start to activate. That's the muscle that's right here that I already took off my model.Lesley Logan 12:51  And it can activate even if you like, have flat feet, because I have people always who like to fight me on this, like, I have flat feet, it won't lift. And I'm like, I think the muscle still activates, guys.Dr. Jenifer Perez 13:03  Yes, yes, exactly. We can dive in to foot shape in a second, too. But the last piece of that exercise is, if you want to add a little bit more, just barely lift your heels like enough for a credit card. Lesley Logan 13:09  Oh, that I haven't done. The spreading of the flick the lifting the toes, I love to teach. The spreading them out. I even try to get people to do one toe at a time, which, by the way, I can do it reverse pinky toe to big toe, but not big, for whatever reason, it's like big toe and then all four. But, so, okay, that's, I've not done the heel lift, okay.Dr. Jenifer Perez 13:32  Yeah, I think you can do to improve dexterity, improve activation of the muscles, rebuild the connection between our brain and our feet, because that's a big piece of it is because we don't use our feet. Many people, our feet are stuffed into cushy socks and cushy shoes and ignored all day long. They even have indoor shoes that they're wearing. Lesley Logan 13:52  Yes, yes.Dr. Jenifer Perez 13:52  Our feet are ignored. Just even rebuilding that connection can be really important. But when I'm dealing with patients in pain, one of my big things, especially when it comes to trying to encourage them to walk and move past their barriers, is engaging the muscles in a way that we actually use in locomotion. And in the gait cycle, we activate the muscles of our feet in order to push off and move forward. That's why I really like that long press lift the heels, because that's exactly how we use those muscles in the walking gait cycle.Lesley Logan 14:26  Yeah, okay, love, love, I'm gonna send you, my friend has a, I take a Pilates session with a friend. He's an amazing teacher, and he's got a client he's been with for 10 years. The guy will not take his shoes off. He does yoga in shoes. His Pilates in shoes. He's like, if I take my shoes off, my feet hurt. I have plantar fasciitis and I, if I take them off, my feet hurt. And I was just like, you know, I think, I think they hurt because you don't take them off. I'm just, just something that, like, maybe you should.Dr. Jenifer Perez 14:55  Yeah, I mean that really like the first kind of knock on the door, but you're totally right. It is typical. Because people have felt pain. So then they get into orthotics or cushier shoes, shoes that really are designed to do the work for you, because it alleviates the pain. But then the golden rule of the musculoskeletal system is use it or lose it. So the longer that we're now in these shoes and these orthotics that are doing the work for us that may have been good in the short term, but in the long term, our feet start to atrophy more, and we become reliant on them, and then we need a more aggressive orthotic and a cushier shoe, and it just becomes this cycle that we have to eventually break. Lesley Logan 15:34  Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Everyone, please re-listen to that. So a yoga teacher, he's like, the two worst inventions were shoes and chairs and, like, you know, they and I'm excited for Brad to listen to this, because he, he, he's been wearing Birkenstocks in the house because he was having, like, plantar fasciitis pain. But if he wear these Birkenstocks, he won't have it and I think that's fine. He's really good at spreading his toes. Like, this is not a knock on him. But I do get concerned, like, are we just like, not forcing the feet to do the job that they're supposed to do, even if they are Birkenstocks. And, you know, there's lots of information about they can be amazing, but I just sometimes worry, like, are we not giving his feet the opportunity to be strong on their own? Dr. Jenifer Perez 16:15  Yeah, yeah, I would give Birkenstocks a B minus, for me, like, they're great because they're, they're a decently low stack height, so not, they're not really cushiony. They have a beautiful wide toe box so it allows your toes to spread, but they're very rigid, and they do have that arch support. So it kind of depends on what our goals are. If we do have an active diagnosis, active diagnosis, like plantar fasciitis, they can be helpful in alleviating that pain. But, again, on the flip side of that, we want to start strengthening our feet, because plantar fasciitis, you okay if I dive into plantar fasciitis? Lesley Logan 16:55  I want you to do that because and then we're gonna get to bunions because of my own personal interest. Dr. Jenifer Perez 16:59  Those are kind of the two that like, everybody (inaudible). Lesley Logan 16:54  I think everyone's heard of. I think we can definitely, yeah, we don't have to go into, like Morton's neuroma, unless we have time. Dr. Jenifer Perez 17:01  Plantar Fasciitis is and fasciitis means more of an inflammatory response. So we're talking about like short term acute pain. The kind of umbrella term is plantar fasciopathy, something going wrong with the plantar fascia. But essentially, the plantar fascia is best friends with this muscle right here, called our flexor digitorum brevis. Lesley Logan 17:20  Okay. Dr. Jenifer Perez 17:21  That muscle is one of the two muscles that presses our toes down, flexor digitorum brevis is the one that presses our toes down flat. Flexor digitorum longus is the one that curls our toes. Lesley Logan 17:32  Got it. Dr. Jenifer Perez 17:32  Right. Going back to our conversation before, when we lengthen the toes and press them, FDB is the one we're activating. The reason this matters with the plantar fascia is because when we go to push off, when we go to take a step and we push off of our foot, FDB is actually what gives us the elasticity to push off of. It's like the trampoline that we're pushing off of. But it has to be strong in order to do that. It has to be able to be, have tension. If it doesn't, we have to get tension from somewhere else. We get it from our next door neighbor, the plantar fascia. Every step we take, rather than using a strong FDB to push off of we're using the plantar fascia, and it becomes more and more irritated while we're on our feet, and then it kind of does this, like stiffening and recoil when we're off our feet, and the second we go to stand up again, that's when it's like, there's the pain again. So when it comes to plantar fascio, when it comes to plantar fasciopathy, the number one thing I'm looking at is strength, and how do we create a stable foot at push off.Lesley Logan 18:37  Yeah, okay. Thank you for that. I think that is really key, and it makes me that like one, because you start to watch people like, I don't watch people in the airports anymore because it's just too much. The posture, the head, head to the side, the heads hanging off of the bodies, like the hip over I'm like, I can't I cannot. They're not paying me. I can't do it. And my husband's just like, look at how that person's walking. Like, look at how that one foot, I'm like, babe, they're not asking for our help, yeah, put some blinders on. But he's like, what's (inaudible) I'm like, they don't, they can't, they no longer can roll through their foot. They're no longer, they're now they're kind of like, and that is going to limit you. That's going to affect falling, first of all, because it's not how you're supposed to walk. It's also going to affect knees, hips, back, like, it just a whole chain, right? I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I always think of the feet is like, the shocks of the car and also the tires of the car, because, like, if they're off, then the whole body is off, right? Dr. Jenifer Perez 19:25  That's actually an analogy we use all the time, is even with, like, performance athletes, right? Like, if you compare an athlete to a car, you can have the best performance car, sports car in the world, but if the tires don't work, it's not going anywhere, you know. Yeah. Lesley Logan 19:40  Yeah, yeah, okay, let's talk bunions. You know, I obviously things have gotten wildly different, you know, like it used to be, don't get a bunion surgery, you'll never walk again. And now, like, people are getting bunion surgery and they are successful. But like, do we is everyone who gets a bunion, like, destined for surgery? Can you change that? Can you fix it? What do we got? Dr. Jenifer Perez 20:00  Yeah, great questions. So first of all, for those that don't know what a bunion is, bunion is when we have a deviation of the first metatarsal, so the long bone that's behind the big toe starts to deviate outwards, and then the toe starts to deviate towards the other toes, and it creates this angle of what we call the first ray, which is the big toe and the first metatarsal, and then as this drifts outwards, we start to see a bump develop on the inside of that joint. Now that bump is not it's not arthritis, it's not a growth of the bone. It's actually the head of the metatarsal sticking out sideways. And so it's truly a joint dislocation that then we are walking on all day long. So when it comes to bunions, they come in different grades. So we have a mild, a moderate or a severe bunion. Mild to moderate bunions can absolutely be helped with conservative care. Conservative care being things like toe spacers, things like strengthening exercises, adjusting your shoes, working on building strength and stability. When we get past that moderate mark, that's when we start to have that discussion of, is surgery going to help? And there's also lots of different kinds of surgery out there. I'm in favor of never get a fusion unless you have to, because especially at the big toe, we have to be able to bend the big toe in order to walk, run, move, and if we can't, we're going to go somewhere else. And then, like you said, that is going to affect that whole chain. So that's kind of the brief thing of bunions. What else do you want to dive in? Lesley Logan 21:28  Okay, so this is fascinating. So okay, I have a wide toe box, right? Like, we'll just get personal. I'm just, I think it's better to have an example. So a wide toe box always have, I have my father's feet, like, really, really narrow heels, super high arches, wide toe box, and I had a big space between my big toe, my four, my other four toes that no longer exists. My toe is now over, right? I use those amazing toe spacers. I do want to know if I'm supposed to put something in those little slits. So I use those. I'm like, kind of obsessed with them, because with them on, I can actually point my big toe when I don't have them on my big toe doesn't really point, like it go, it's straight, but it doesn't really like point with the foot. It's very fascinating to me when it's when it's in alignment, it's like doing a great job, which is probably what's, what has, what's happened. But because of all the footwork that I do, I mean, like I have, I do footwork on my Reformer with no padding, I have no pain. I do a lot of foot corrector, toe corrector, tons of stuff to really, like, keep my feet strong. But I am not like, I don't know. Maybe I'm like, expecting something that shouldn't happen. I'm not seeing a reduction of my bunion, nor is my big toe staying where it needs to be without the spacers. So is it just time? Is it daily homework? Like, what? What are people with bunions who have a minor to moderate supposed to do?Dr. Jenifer Perez 22:43  Yes, I love it. So couple of things there. So let's talk about you first, and then I'll talk about a different presentation, because there's kind of two different presentations of bunions and one would be kind of more the like, like you said, the high arch, more rigid foot type. There's another kind of bunion that happens in a more flexible low arch, flat foot, foot type. And so number one, when we're talking about bunions, it starts to be an instability in that joint. So although we can strengthen, although we can improve function and decrease pain, it's not always going to stay there. So even Dr. Conley, my business partner, she has a pretty significant bunion on her right foot. She wears her toe spacers all day long, every day, and if she doesn't, she doesn't get pain, not right away. If she didn't consistently, she probably would over the course of few weeks or a month. But if she doesn't, you can definitely see that bunion popping out more. So she uses them as a guide, because of that laxity that's developed in that joint. So it kind of depends on how far along that spectrum we are as to whether the big toe will stay there or not, because it can in definitely the more mild cases, but it just depends. Now talking about, kind of one piece of the puzzle that might be missing with everything that you mentioned, is with the more stiff foot presentation. So you're more high arch foot type. One of the really important jobs of our foot, like we said, there's 33 joints, it has to be able to move and dissociate and unlock. And sometimes what people with high arches have a hard time with, is pronation. We live in this more supinated position. The arch is higher up. And now when the foot comes down to the ground, since we can't move through the mid foot, which has all of these that are designed to twist, if I can't move through there because it's locked down, I'm going to move excessively through my forefoot, so we're basically making up for that motion in the forefoot, which can lead to that instability and that bunion. This is the same presentation as Dr. Conley, by the way.Lesley Logan 24:51  Oh, well, I mean, I'm in good company. But that makes a lot of sense, because, you know, I like, I've had to work really hard when I point my feet to not, is it like, like, supinate? Is it like? What do you mean? You, like, I like, I want to make sure that my don't have like, flippers. I have like, two feet. So I'm like, I'm pointing my feet, but the pinky toes are not coming towards each other. It's a really, it's a really big thing that I have to work on, because my ankles are so hyper mobile, so that, that makes a lot of sense, and got it. So I need to stretch. I need to actually let my arch stretch out.  Dr. Jenifer Perez 25:23  Let your feet relax. And it's also, it's kind of a learned response too. Like you said, if you have hypermobile ankles, sometimes what we'll do is we'll try to make up for finding stability with our feet, and then we just never let them relax. So the conversation used to always be like around pronation and like, pronation is the devil, but really, I see a pretty good 50-50, split of people who need strength and control of pronation versus people who need to learn how to relax their feet again and start to pronate. Lesley Logan 25:24  Yeah. Okay, super fun. So you mentioned there's another, there's another type of bunion, though. Dr. Jenifer Perez 25:34  So, basically, exactly the opposite. Okay, so now think about your more flat foot, foot type, more flexible foot type. What happens here is, because we don't have good control of the mid foot, we start to spill over into uncontrolled pronation. Again, pronation isn't the devil we just need to be able to control it. So now, when I spill over into uncontrolled pronation, you see how my forefoot starts to deviate, this way? Lesley Logan 26:21  Yes, yes. I had a client who that's how his foot, he had callus. It was so bad. It was like. Dr. Jenifer Perez 26:26  Like a callous on the inside of the big toe. Sometimes they'll even have it on the inside of the joint where it is, too. Those are called pinch calluses. And the reason they get them is because when the forefoot starts to deviate with that uncontrolled pronation. Now, when they go to push off, they're pushing off across the big toe, so they get a callus on the side of the toe, and that pushes their toe over towards the other toes, which can contribute to a bunion. The one thing we haven't mentioned across the board is absolutely footwear. Footwear 100% contributing to this as well, because your body can only move in the range of motion that's allowed. And if we are in footwear that has a triangular shaped toe, then it is bringing your toe towards the other toes. There's no way your toe can sit in alignment if it's in a shoe with a pointed toe box. Lesley Logan 27:16  Yeah, I know I've had to, like, change all of my shoes. I keep my my high heels for my wedding that I'll never put on ever again. I don't think my feet would even fit in them at this point, but I like, keep them for just like the look of it. But like, I am a tennis shoe. Like, if I if I can't wear tennis shoes, we are really in trouble. I have one pair of, like, really wide toe box clogs, and I'm like, okay, if I have to wear dressy shoes, we will put these on and. Dr. Jenifer Perez 27:39  Well, I mean, there's also, like, more and more and more options coming out. So like at our website, Gait Happens, we have a whole list of footwear that has a wide toe box, but for example, so for those again, watching so, I mean, you look at more of like a traditional flat even, and you have this absolutely pointed toe box. Imagine your big toe in this position. Your big toe is supposed to be here.Lesley Logan 28:02  Because it's straight up, and it's going literally across the middle of your foot.Dr. Jenifer Perez 28:04  Right? And now we're going to bend on that joint, yes, imagine a door that's hung crooked, and then we just decide to open it 10,000 times a day. Lesley Logan 28:05  Right. Dr. Jenifer Perez 28:13  So it just is basically, really harming that joint. But there's options out there that you can have a shoe that's similar, but with a wide toe box. I mean, same thing with looking at, like, more of your daily tennis shoes or your running shoes, right? Like, there's options that have a wide toe box out there. I also have, like, I got these (inaudible) loafers that I am loving, and I could not find them this morning, I'm so upset. Lesley Logan 28:41  Someone stole them from you. They're so good. Okay. We all have to go, like, scour your website before you buy new shoes, because that is, that is the thing. Like, my feet do not have pain. You don't have any issues. But if I put on a pair of shoes where it's going to put my toe in the wrong spot, then I am going to have pain. Like, that's when I have it. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, you know? I mean, like footwear. So basically, we're outsourcing the natural gait of our body to a footwear, which is then affecting how our rest of our day goes, but then also how our bodies feel in the future.Dr. Jenifer Perez 29:15  Yeah, absolutely. I mean, our bodies conform to shapes. We've seen that with foot binding in history, we've seen that with the whale bone corsets. We've seen that with the neck elongation, our body will conform to a shape if you put it in that shape, and it is not any different when it comes to the foot. Lesley Logan 29:33  Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, so how often should we be paying attention to our feet? Like, is this something we're supposed to do? Because, you know, people, everyone has, I don't have enough time. They barely have enough time to work out, like, how how often should they do foot exercises? How should they be thinking about their feet? What do we got?Dr. Jenifer Perez 29:49  So as much as you can give me, I mean, I'm very realistic, right? If you're having pain, then spend more time on this, because it really does impact your life. But if we're just talking about the average person looking for prevention and longevity, then how about we just start with going barefoot a little bit like let your feet be feet. Go barefoot around the house. Let's get rid of the house shoes. Let's maybe go walk on a few different surfaces outside when it's warm enough and not snowing, like it is here, you know. So just let your feet be feet, and then you can do stuff like adding toe spacers. If you're concerned about the spacing between your toes. We like the toe spacers that we have because you can wear them while you're moving around.Lesley Logan 30:31  They're, they're amazing. I actually will just say, like, I wear them just to walk around my house. And I thought maybe they won't stay in because like, of how they are. No, they stay. I also wear them doing yoga. I wear them doing Pilates. I don't have to have socks with them on. Like, you know, sometimes I have to adjust it a little bit. But, like, it's actually, they're really amazing, and they fit in almost all my shoes. And when they don't fit, I'm like, hmm, maybe these shoes, maybe these shoes need to go get donated.Dr. Jenifer Perez 30:56  Yeah. So, I mean, just simple tips to honestly, like, if you're going to be doing a ton of walking, maybe you just roll your foot out on a ball afterwards, give it a little bit of love. Maybe add a little bit of foot activation before a workout. If you know you're going to be doing, like single leg workout or things like that, there's, there's a ton of small things that you could do to add foot health into your day, and part of it is just the awareness. Go walk around your hallway after listening to this or wherever you are, and actually think about reaching your toes long and engaging your toes with each step, and see how different that is from how you've been walking for the last 10 years.Lesley Logan 31:32  Yeah, you know, this fascinates me, because I will sometimes see, okay, like, you know, people wear flip flops at the airport and they're like, pinky toe doesn't touch the ground. And I was like, isn't it supposed to touch the ground? Like, were they born like that? Did they like change their body like, what happened? Why is their pinky toe not on the ground? Dr. Jenifer Perez 31:50  To your point, I can't look at a lot of people in the airport anymore, but I do celebrate with people when I see them in shoes that I do approve of, because it's so far and few between. So I'm like, hey, nice Altras. And they're like, that was weird.Lesley Logan 32:04  I, you know what? I love that we just had an amazing guest on who was talking about, like, your bubble of influence. And like, like, just giving a stranger a compliment is, like, affecting your bubble of influence. And like, you are doing that within what your influence wants to be. So I, I'm, I'm all in on that. This is so fascinating. I think, you know, I just, I think a lot of times people think about the way our media has trained us is like, think about your abs, or the abs that will like, the muscles that will tone your, the exercise will tone your core, these will tone your arms. And I'm always just like, because I get asked these all the time, and I tell my publicist, I'm like, I gotta talk about, like, their, are their feet aligning like it does, like their hips, we have so many things to talk about before they even do the sit up like, there's just like, and it's not that I'm a nitpicky person. I'm not. I'm kind of like, safe, ugly movement is fine, you know, as long as it's not dangerous. But we're so obsessed with like, from the waist up that we're not really focusing on like, really where some of the root problems are and where we have a lot of control, which is like our foot choices, our shoe choices, like walking around our house barefoot, giving our feet some love.Dr. Jenifer Perez 33:07  Yeah, I think it all comes down to what are your goals? Right? Are your goals to live fast, die hard, whatever, right? If you if your goal is, I want a six pack and I want to enjoy my life for whatever that looks like. Great. If your goal is I want to go climb Machu Picchu, or I want to be able to run into my 70s and 80s, then we need to have a conversation that looks very different around supporting that longevity and that movement potential. Lesley Logan 33:35  Yeah, yeah, you're amazing. Okay. I mean, I could talk to you for hours, but we're gonna take a brief break and find out how people can find you, follow you, work with you and your Be It Action Items. Dr. Jenifer Perez 33:51  Perfect. Lesley Logan 33:45  All right. Dr. Jen Perez, where do you hang out? Where can people like, if people, I know you're in a place that snows, but like, can people work with you who don't live near you? Like, what? What do you have? Dr. Jenifer Perez 33:54  So, great question. So first of all, we have lots of free resources. So our Instagram account is Gait Happens, G-A-I-T Happens. And we have thousands of videos on there. We also are expanding our YouTube as well. So Gait Happens on YouTube, lots of free videos, lots of things to check out there. If you're wanting a more personalized approach. So for those that are worldwide, we, our team does virtual consultations. I don't personally do virtual consultations anymore, but we have a whole team of practitioners that do. We also have DIY programs, like a 12-week Fit Feet program. If you'd rather just get a program that you do on your own, but if you do want to come work with me, I am in Colorado. I'm in Kinetic Chiropractic is my clinic in Lafayette, Colorado, and I have people fly in all the time, and then we can do follow up appointments virtually, but we do that first appointment together. Lesley Logan 34:46  That's so cool. I have to see if that's on the way to Aurora, because that's where, that's my next trip into Colorado. So okay, I mean, I feel like you've given us a lot, but I just want to like for our people who are like, okay, what's my first next step? No pun intended. Bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it it till they see it, what do you have for us?Dr. Jenifer Perez 35:08  I love it. I have two kind of challenges, I would say. One that can be immediate and one that's for the next time you buy shoes. So, the immediate challenge is go barefoot for five minutes. That's it doesn't require any equipment. Just take your shoes off. And if you're not already going barefoot, and if you're already going barefoot, then I challenge you to go barefoot for five minutes on new textures. So if you're already going barefoot at home, go outside, go walk in the grass, go walk over some stones, let your feet start to discover texture and movement over surfaces again. And if you're not going barefoot, then start by going on those soft surfaces for five minutes, let your feet move and feel. So that's my, my number one. You can do this right after this. And then my number two is the next time that you buy a pair of shoes, I challenge you to not only buy a pair of shoes that may look a little different than you're used to because they have a nice, beautiful, wide toe box that lets your foot move, but I challenge you to buy something that's a little less shoe, and what I mean by that is less aggressive, so less stiff, less arch support, less cushion, less shoe than you think that you need just step it down a little bit, because that's going to challenge your feet to do a little bit more of the work.Lesley Logan 36:33  Yes, I'm in on all of this. I love this so much. Dr. Jen Perez from Gait Happens, thank you. This was a dream interview I wanted to do since I've stumbled upon you and all that you're doing. And I just think it's really amazing. And I know for a fact, if you're an OPC member, you guys, come on. You have to, you have to go check this out. It's gonna be part of your like, we always, I always say, like, your feet are connected to your seat. Like, that's, you know, and it's you know, that's really is. And people challenge. I've had people literally tell me I was doing the Toe Corrector with rubber bands. I was just showing people like, you don't have to buy fancy things. You can just use rubber bands. Here's what I'm doing, and it connects to the seat. And I had trainers of the wazoo going, that's not how your like, glutes work. And I was like, okay, I don't know how you study for anatomy, and that's fine, but I'm gonna tell you right now you obviously haven't done it, because if you do the exercises correctly, you can't help but feel your butt work like the outer hips work, the hand, everything is like turning on so they are connected, maybe not directly, because your feet are not touching your seat.Dr. Jenifer Perez 37:29  Absolutely. I actually have a fun party trick that I will do with trainers when I'm working with trainers, and I have them lay on their stomach and extend their leg behind them with their their knee bent, and then you down on their thigh. And what this is doing is it's a muscle test for your hips. So it's like, if you're, you've got strong hips that should be nice and strong. So I have them do that barefoot. And it's usually like, okay, great. That was awesome. You were able to not let me press down. And then I take my other hand and I squish their toes together, and I press down, and it goes because you you can't when your toes are squished together, it affects the whole chain. Now, can I explain that neurologically? No, I cannot, but I can tell you that it works every time I do it.Lesley Logan 38:13  Yeah, I think, you know, I think we'll get the neuro I mean, it's just going to take time for us, especially in this western society where everything's kind of siloed to like, see how it all connects, you know, but it is connected. And if you can feel it, then, like, we don't actually need the science right now to prove that what you're feeling is true. So someday, someday, well, you are doing the Lord's work. I really think so. And thank you so much for being here with us today. Everyone, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Are you gonna go buy a new pair of shoes with this in mind? Are you going to go walk around barefoot? Please tag Gait Happens. Tag the Be It Pod and share this with a friend, especially your friends who are complaining about your feet. You know who those people are? They tell you all the time. So make sure the ones that take their shoes off at the club, which is a little not okay, please don't do that. I live in Las Vegas, and I'll see people walking barefoot. I'm like, I don't think you want to do that here. That's, don't do it there. Anyways, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 39:10  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe, happy Fuck Yeah Friday. We made it. We're here. We did it, and today's a holiday. And so I am super excited, because I told my team I want to take every bank holiday off, and so I'm off. And probably sticking around where I live, to be honest, because we're traveling later, and I'll have more FYFs on that. But at any rate, if you celebrate this holiday, Happy Holiday. You guys, we do this is a short, quick, inspirational episode to, like, just help you, like, kick the weekend off on a high note, because, oh my God, if you're like, waiting for Friday and go, okay, the weekend is here, and that's the win because I don't have to work. That's not what we want. We want to actually, like, celebrate the things in between. So I also share something that inspired me on the internet, because we need something inspirational then I give your wins and I give my wins. Lesley Logan 1:34  So here we go. This is 18 brutal sentences that could change your life. Some of these will sting. This is from Alpha Woman Mindset on Instagram. Some of these will sting. All of them will wake you up. So I'm ready for this. 18 of them. One, you are what you do, not what you say you'll do. So discipline doesn't speak it shows Ooh. Number two, the longer you stay on the wrong train, the more expensive it is to get home. I love that one. Number three, every excuse you make is robbing your future blind. Number four, ambition without action doesn't make you powerful, it makes you anxious. Number five, keep every stone they threw at you. You got, you got an empire to build. Number six, the darkness in your mind doesn't erase the light in your heart. Number seven, becoming the best version of yourself comes with a lot of goodbyes. That is true. Number eight, your comfort zone is a pretty prison, and you've been decorating it for too long. Number nine, if you don't build your dream, someone else will hire you to build theirs. Number 10, one day you'll wish you started today and tomorrow won't be another option anymore. Number 11, regret will always hurt more than discipline ever will. Number 12, we suffer more in our imagination than we ever will in reality. Stop writing tragedies that haven't happened yet. Oh, that's good. Number 13, at some point, the pain of staying stuck will outweigh the fear of moving forward. Number 14, your best moments will come from the risk you were too scared to take. Good. Okay, number 15, your future self is watching make her proud, not disappointed. Number 16, any lesson you avoid will come back louder next time. That's fucking true. Number 17, nothing is scarier than living your whole life knowing you had more in you. That is scary. 18, in the end, your only competition was a woman you could have become. Make sure she wouldn't pity you. These are amazing. She said, these are just weren't just sentences. They are mirrors. Don't just save this. Let it change you. So, you guys, I'll make sure the link is below if you want to read this and comment and share with a friend, it's so, so good. I think we all need something like that in our lives. So, so I'm super, super grateful that came across my feed, because I absolutely, absolutely needed to hear that I needed that in my life for sure. Lesley Logan 4:00  Okay, time for one of your wins. Lori Watson, a longtime Agency member OG, OG of the OPC members and OG eLevate member, one of our favorite humans in the world, said a shout out to Mindi and LL. This morning, Friday, I was able to do Tuesday's reform with Mindi and then the tower with Lesley. I did them both prior to seeing my 11 a.m. client, and incorporated both classes into our session. She loved it. So far, I've only made one class live, thank you, Yasmin, due to my schedule, so I'm glad I'll be able to get back and watch the replays. So that was during our Spring Training and Lori Watson got to have that amazing win. I think it's really fun, right? Like, you can't do something live, but you can access the replay, like, way to go, Lori, for celebrating that you did that. How many people sign up for things and then don't do it because they couldn't go live, or they don't sign up for things because they couldn't do it in the live? But there's a replay. You guys, there's a lot of things in life that have replays, and if you watch the replay, that's a double win, because not only do you sign up for the thing, but then you took time out of the day without accountability to do it. So way to go, Lori Watson. Lesley Logan 5:03  Melissa Capitano, also been an eLevate an Agency member, one of our favorite studio owners. She's kicking ass and doing a great job. She said, it's been a rough few weeks. Today, I knew I needed some Pilates, but couldn't get myself motivated, so I decided to do a one rep drill, and it felt so great to move. Yeah, the one rep drill for the win. You guys. If you don't know what that is, I am filming it for Pilates Anytime. It's going to be in an upcoming class that will come out so that you can literally log in, hit play and just do one rep of the mat. It's really, really amazing. It's really great. It's going to be in the next couple months. So hit us up if you're interested in it. But I think a lot of times we are like, oh my God, I don't have time for a full workout, so I'm just not going to do it. You'll never, have you ever felt better not doing the workout that you thought you could do? Like, no, you will always feel better if you do some movement. So there's that. So way to go,, Melissa Capitano, for teaching us that, reminding us of that. Lesley Logan 6:02  Okay, so here's what my win is. My win is eLevate, my mentorship program is just so great. It I learned so much. I learn, every time I teach eLevate, even though it's the same content, the stuff that I love, it's something I know, each group teaches me even more and I get to grow, and I get to watch them grow. So like, it's really, really awesome. And what I'm celebrating is that we are coming upon the Q&A part of where we do a live class and a live Q&A for people who are interested in eLevate who haven't applied yet. We're going into this. It'll be on July 9th, and so you can come if you want to come, just, just let us know, and we'll get you the link and everything. But we, were going into this with the program, all, more than half-filled, so I'm excited to see the face of people who are interested. I'm also a little nervous for them, because there's not a lot of spaces, and I cannot do more than two. I can only do the two that I'm doing next year. And so between those two rounds, we're more than half filled. And I'm just so proud of the team for all that they've done to make sure it's really easy for people, but also really proud of the work that I've done over the last several years putting together this program. Like, I know that can sound like a brag, but like, also we should brag a bit I've been working really hard on this program, and also the all the people who've done it after year after year, who tell people about it like, it's just a sign that, like this program, it really does what it says it's gonna do, and everyone wins. Then, like, my win is that everyone wins because in the future, clients are winning. It's just really cool. So I'm so proud. I can't even wait to see who comes live on Tuesday to that workout and that Q&A. But even if you're not a Pilates instructor, here's the deal, like, I hope my win shows you that you can be proud of things being half-filled, you can be proud of things you continue to do because they fill your cup and that they impact people. And doesn't have to be finished, right? Doesn't have to be finished. Make it a win. So there's that. Lesley Logan 7:49  Okay, I always leave you with a little mantra affirmation. So this one is there's always a way. I feel like that one might have come up before this year. So you know, because maybe we need to hear it. That's why it keeps coming up. There's always a way. And let's just do this one in case you're like, I don't need that one. I believe it already. Life is meant to be shared. Life is meant to be shared. So good, so amazing. All right. Loves Happy Friday. Want you to send your wins in you can actually send your wins and questions to the same place. We actually just made this link work. So I'm super excited. It's beitpod.com/questions so I know it says questions and you're like, but this is a win. You, there's a place to put either a question or a win, beitpod.com/questions we just made it all in one place. It's easy for us to either answer your questions on a recap or celebrate your wins on an FYF. Have an amazing day.Lesley Logan 8:42  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Lesley and Brad recap Lesley's informative conversation with Matthew Lesko, the iconic question-mark-suit-wearing advocate for free government resources. Learn how to get support for your business or personal goals, shift your mindset around asking for help, and tap into programs that already exist to empower you. This episode breaks down key takeaways, including how Lesko's mission began and the tools you can use to take action today. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How to modify a Reformer with a stationary headrest for safer workouts.How Matthew Lesko redefines success by staying true to his heart.Why injecting fun into your work creates motivation and momentum.The types of government resources most people overlook—and how to find them.Why booking a real appointment beats filling out forms online.Episode References/Links:eLevate Workout and Q&A - https://lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlistAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniOPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/tourUK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comSubmit your questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsYouTube: How to Choose a Reformer - https://beitpod.com/choosingareformerBook: Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert - https://a.co/d/9qFidcWMatthew Lesko's - https://beitpod.com/leskohelpEp. 400: Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/gayhendricksEp. 196: Beate Chelette - https://beitpod.com/beatecheletteFind Local Help for Basic Needs – https://www.findhelp.orgGovernment Contracting Support (Apex Accelerators) – www.apexaccelerators.usSmall Business Support (SBA Local Assistance) – www.sba.gov/local-assistance If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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You're gonna have to care about the problem that you're solving. Lesley Logan 0:12  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:51  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the endearingly fun convo I had with Matthew Lesko in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now, go back and listen to that one, because you've missed out. Brad Crowell 1:09  So you could also have said the wise, happy old man convo I had, who drops a lot of F bombs. Lesley Logan 1:14  And also, when we say old, I just want to say, like, there's nothing. He is not like slow.Brad Crowell 1:20  No, he does not come across that old. And he said PSM 81. I was like, what? Really?Lesley Logan 1:26  Yeah, yeah, he's feisty and fun, and. Brad Crowell 1:29  Heck yeah. Lesley Logan 1:29  And like, working so hard for everyone. And I was just so excited. And then when we I was like, I had just interviewed him that day, and our friend Michael and Brogan was here at the house, and I was like, oh my God, I just interviewed someone. You should have him on your show. And I just started describing him and our friend Michael was like, Matthew Lesko? And he was like, he's like, the guy with a question mark suit. And I'm like, yeah, that's him. And he's like, stop right now. I want him on my show. So anyways, super, super fun. We'll get into that episode in just a second. But today is July 3rd 2025 and it's National Compliment Your Mirror Day. National Compliment Your Mirror Day is on July 3rd. We live in an image-driven world. Sometimes this can cause us to not notice and compliment a very important person in our lives, ourselves. This day motivates us to look in the mirror and recognize all those things that make us exceptional, inside and out. So go look yourself in the mirror and give yourself a compliment. Brad Crowell 2:25  Go do it. Lesley Logan 2:25  Do it now. You can use your phone as a camera if , as a mirror, if you want. But sometimes I do that. Okay, literally, next week. Is it next week? I guess it's July 3rd, so maybe a little after a week. Brad Crowell 2:38  Well, Happy July 4th for those in the United States. Lesley Logan 2:41  Those who celebrate. Brad Crowell 2:42  The independence that we are on the brink of not having. Lesley Logan 2:47  You guys, I'm just going to be really honest, we're recording this while L.A. is being taken over by people. A lot of misleading information, a lot of bad stuff. Make sure always, always, always, always get news from the people who are on the ground, because people like to spend things. And so anyways, if you're celebrating the Fourth of July, Happy Fourth of July. But, in exciting news, on July 9th, I'm hosting a free workout for those people who are interested in eLevate, my mentorship program. And we'll have a Q&A, we'll have eLevate grads on there who will tell you why they love it so much. And you just want to go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist to get on, get the invitation, and come to that. We have, like, I don't know, at the time we're recording this, like, eight spots left, I think, which is not a lot of spots at all. Brad Crowell 2:47  It's not a lot of spots, y'all. Lesley Logan 3:27  No, and we're actually, like, gonna be, you know, pretty soon, starting to work out who has what time slot. Brad Crowell 3:40  I mean, there are hundreds of people on the waitlist. Lesley Logan 3:43  Yeah, like, like, several hundreds. Like, for eight people. Brad Crowell 3:47  Eight spots, right? Because we started.Lesley Logan 3:49  But don't let that deter you. That means you should go be one of those eight people. Brad Crowell 3:53  100%Lesley Logan 3:54  Yeah. Brad Crowell 3:54  Yeah. And you're welcome to reach out, you know now, so, but yeah, July 9th, it's gonna be a super good time. We're going to have a free class, answer questions, have some alumni on there, but guess what I'm really excited about, too.Lesley Logan 4:07  Yeah, we're doing Agency Mini, our coaching program that we do, where we. Brad Crowell 4:12  Bringing it back. Lesley Logan 4:12  We help as many people as possible. Brad Crowell 4:12  Bring it back to me. Lesley Logan 4:13  Yeah, and we're doing it in three days, so you don't have to be overwhelmed by a week-long situation with like, the Facebook, none of that stuff. So if you've heard of Mini before, this is a new Mini. Brad Crowell 4:28  If you've done Mini before, you should come back and do that. Lesley Logan 4:31  Yeah, we used to have a rule that you couldn't and now you can. Brad Crowell 4:34  Yeah, we're, this is a special invite. Special invite because it's different. You know. We're, we're taking the concept and we made it better, we made it shorter, we made it easier, we made it faster, all the things. And so, you know, you really can learn a lot in just three days with us. And then, you know, there's also opportunities for coaching calls, which we never offer outside of our coaching group. Or you can book a coaching call with either Lesley or with me. It's a Round Robin. So you'll be surprised at who you get, because it's just based on our availability. But basically.Lesley Logan 4:58  Oh, that's cool. So they're just booking it and, like. Brad Crowell 5:07  They're just booking a call and getting aside. Lesley Logan 5:08  Cool. It's like speed dating.Brad Crowell 5:10  Kind of, but it's gonna be great because, you know, we, we don't have, we don't set aside the time to coach people who are not in our coaching group, because it's already a lot, right? And so what we've done differently this time is we're creating that space that time we actually are leaving, you know, time during six days where you can book a call with us. And you do that when you register for Agency Mini, so when you're going through and it says, like, oh, do you want to join Agency? Say yes. And then during the checkout, you'll say, oh yeah, and yes, I would like to add a coaching call and so, you know, we'll, we'll be able to chat. It's gonna be awesome. I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to meeting everybody. I love hearing all the different things that are going on. I just had a coaching call with a new Agency member, and she's opening up a bigger space, like a much bigger space than her current space. Lesley Logan 5:56  Oh, is it, who I think it is? Brad Crowell 6:03  No, not at all. So, you know, and they, they were, they're trying to figure out, like, you know, all the mechanics behind that. And what's so fun is that Lesley and I've been able to be there for this conversation many, many, many, many times over the years, plus we've done it ourselves, right? So anyway, come join us. Go to Agency Mini, prfit.biz/mini P-R-F-I-T dot biz, that's profit without the O dot biz slash mini. Then, we're hitting the road.Lesley Logan 6:33  Yeah, after Mini, we literally pack up the van and we're gonna go on tour, you guys, 15 cities and like, 20-something days. Our tour is powered by Balanced Body, and many of the events are sold out, like a lot of them are sold out and so but also on this one, there is an opportunity to join a virtual so if I've never come to a city near you, you've never had the time to drive a half hour across town, all that stuff, you can actually get tickets to the virtual events we're doing in Calgary. So go to opc.me/tour to see the lineup, the cities. I can name them for you. We're doing Phoenix, San Diego, Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, San Francisco, Sacramento, Eureka, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, Kamloops, Calgary, McCall, Idaho, Salt Lake in Las Vegas.Brad Crowell 7:18  That's right, I'm impressed you just rattled that off I think that's 16, right? Something like that. 15?Lesley Logan 7:22  Some people keep saying 15, whenever I counted. It feels like 16, so I don't know. Brad Crowell 7:28  Yeah. Well, anyway, it's a bunch. It's exciting. We've got a lot going on, and we can't wait to meet you in person. So come join us. Go to opc dot me slash T-O-U-R that's opc.me/tour. And then.Lesley Logan 7:41  We had a lot of people in the U.K. jealous of this tour. And I'm like, hold on, we're coming your way in September. So we come home, we acclimate, then we go into the U.K. We have two city locations in the U.K. for our Mullet Tour, which means business in the front Pilates in the back. Don't worry, the business is also like life skills. So.Brad Crowell 7:59  It's not like super deep business in a studio. So you can.Lesley Logan 8:02  No, you can be a non-teacher. Brad Crowell 8:04  One of them is about scheduling, and you can apply that to any element of life, like. Lesley Logan 8:14  One of them is about habits. Brad Crowell 8:14  And the other's about habits. That's right. So. So anyway, it's gonna be awesome. Go to opc.me/uk.Lesley Logan 8:15  We'll do Leeds and we'll do Essex. And right now we have three spots left in Leeds. No, they're not days passes yet available for Leeds. There's only three weekend passes left, so we're not breaking those up. In Essex, we have day passes because it's during the week. Or you can save money by getting two day pass. So go to opc.me/uk you can come to both. There's only, like, two workshops that cross over. So.Brad Crowell 8:37  You could come to Leeds and then to Essex, yeah, you totally could do that, and then you can continue the conversation. Because often, when you do a workshop and you leave, how often do you immediately revisit that content? Imagine being able to revisit it right away and just take it even deeper, hear it again and, like, really dial it in. So that's also an option. Then, in October, guess where we're going? Lesley Logan 9:01  Back to Cambodia. Brad Crowell 9:02  That's what we're doing. We can't wait. Obviously, we love Cambodia. We love going there. We love helping people experience another world altogether. It is just the coolest place.Lesley Logan 9:13  I love just like getting some time away from the life and chaos that's going on that you like, absorb all the time, and you're dealing with all the time to just like, to just fill your cup up and be amazed about what community can look like in a village, and what it can look like to see temples that took hundreds, if not thousands of people over, you know, several years working together. And sometimes when I just feel like there's just no way we're going to solve this problem, that I go there and I'm like, well, they did this, and if they did this, I can solve a problem. So, like, I just it's always very, It's humbling, but also grounding, and then it really allows you to step away from what's going on and get a bigger, get a better understanding and come back into it.Brad Crowell 9:57  I love it. Well, you're not wrong. It is mind-blowing it is one of those trips that will change your perspective of life in general. It's amazing. So you should join us. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. Come join us. There are still spots for this October, and it's not too late to get the plane tickets. I think Lesley and I just basically bought ours recently. Lesley Logan 10:18  We have haven't bought them yet. No. Brad Crowell 10:19  We've been looking at them. Lesley Logan 10:19  We're looking at them. Brad Crowell 10:19  So we haven't bought them yet, right? So don't worry, there's room, okay, there's time. So come join us. But, before we get into the Matthew Lesko question mark jacket, he didn't wear it in the interview. But he. Lesley Logan 10:33  Yes, he did. Brad Crowell 10:34  He wore his question mark jacket? Lesley Logan 10:36  Oh, yeah, you didn't watch? Brad Crowell 10:37  No, I did watch, but I kept looking at his epic blue glasses.Lesley Logan 10:41  No, there was question marks on that suit that clearly-fitted-to-him suit. Brad Crowell 10:46  He's a badass. Lesley Logan 10:47  Wonderfully fitted to him. Brad Crowell 10:48  Well. Anyway, before we get into that, we have an audience question @MarleneBroek on YouTube says, I wish I could do a Scottish accent, because I think her last name is Scottish, but I'm not going to try. She said hello, I already have a Reformer, but my head rest is stationary. Any recommendation for a separate headrest, such as the kind that forms to one's neck, interesting, or one that is flat to go on top of it. Thank you so much for your time. All right, Marlene, get ready, because I already know what's coming.Lesley Logan 11:22  So unfortunately, you all, many, many people are now making Reformers who've never done Pilates before, and they don't know that these things make a difference. So I'm super, super glad you're curious, because your headrest is not supposed to be stationary. So what I don't know from this is, if your headrest is stationary up or stationary down. My hope is that it's stationary down, because then we can get like a wedge pillow of some kind that will mimic a head rest being up. But then you could take that, that insert away, and then you could actually still do overhead exercises. If it is stationary up, you cannot do any overhead exercises. No, there's nothing we can do. I don't even know that what you can do, because I don't have a picture of your Reformer, don't know if it has hinges, if you could add anything. Unclear. So what I will say is, I'm just going to assume your headrest is stationary down for the rest of this conversation. You don't want a pillow or headrest that forms to your neck, because we're not actually trying to support the neck in that way we're, actually, when we have the headrest up, it's meant to tilt your head in just a way, so your neck can relax, but your upper abs can engage without us even telling you. That's why the headrest is up for footwork, for frogs and circles, for running, for pelvic lift, that your headrest is up so that your you just have this nice little support to help you engage your upper abs without you using your neck. It's really quite cool. He's very fast. So anyways, and it's down when you're not using that. So you can do overhead exercises. You get your box on top, things like that. So I would look into, Marlene, some sort of like foam wedge that you can cut to the size of your headrest. Brad Crowell 13:00  And firm foam. Lesley Logan 13:01  I would definitely say something firm. You don't want to be like a pillow.Brad Crowell 13:05  Right. So, so, like, I'm thinking about your baby chair and that little funny wedge that you have for the baby chair. Kind of would be like that. So, like, and that wedge, you're sitting on it, and it doesn't move, like, it doesn't give, it, literally, is intended to level out the baby chair. So in this case, you would want something that's firm like that as well. Lesley Logan 13:23  Yeah, very firm, like, you can even.Brad Crowell 13:26  Like, you basically just taking it on and off.Lesley Logan 13:27  I mean, I would imagine, like, if you have someone handy in your life with, like, a really cool saw that could, like, take a yoga block and, like, slice it from. Brad Crowell 13:37  That's a good texture, yoga block. I bet you could modify a yoga block to make your own wedge. Lesley Logan 13:42  Yeah. And I think that some yoga blocks even come like that. So, like you, I mean, like, there's a lot of things out there, but that's what I would do. Brad Crowell 13:50  What kind of angle are we talking about here?Lesley Logan 13:52  Let me just get my protractor out. It's, it's not as.Brad Crowell 13:59  If there's a right angle, is it halfway? Lesley Logan 14:01  No. Brad Crowell 14:02  No. It's 1/3 of the way? Lesley Logan 14:03  One-third, maybe. Your eyes are still able to look at the ceiling. You're not looking at your toes. Brad Crowell 14:09  Got it. Lesley Logan 14:10  Yeah. Brad Crowell 14:10  Cool. Lesley Logan 14:11  Yeah. So Marlene, I hope this helps you. This is why I did the Reformer, you know, how to choose a reformer video. And this is why these are things we have to think about when it comes to what, what changes did an engineer make when making your rReformer, you know, like, did they change the springs for bungee cords? Did they change the foot bar that moves to a fixed vertical foot bar? Did they change that there's no head the headrest doesn't go down or doesn't go up? Did they change the shoulder rest so that they're round and not actually something that like allows your shoulders to be wide, or your foot to be against something that like fills their foot out like the Contrology shoulder blocks actually fit the shape of your foot. That's why they're (inaudible). That's why they're made the way they're made. So.Brad Crowell 14:53  I was like, what?Lesley Logan 14:55  So anyways, I don't think you have to go buy a whole other Reformer, Marlene, but I would do this, and then I would have a little savings account for the another, the next Reformer. And trust me, someone will buy this off you for the same thing you paid for it, because everything goes up in price and they're not paying tax on shipping.Brad Crowell 15:10  No doubt. Well, and then when you're ready to go shopping, reach back out to us and we'll connect you with Balanced Body, where we've got a discount code for you there. So yeah, all right. If you have a question.Lesley Logan 15:21  Send it to the beitpod.com/questions. Brad Crowell 15:24  That's right. Send it to beitpod.com/questions beitpod.com/questions. If you have a win, and you want us to cover that win on the FYFs on Friday, you can also submit it right there as well. So thanks for asking that. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into the question mark-filled convo with Matthew Lesko. Actually, it's more like mind-blowing convo. He has said wealth of information and exuberance for life. I really enjoyed it. So we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 15:50  Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Mr. Matthew Lesko. At the age of 81, Matthew is still rocking those question mark suits and has spent four decades helping people find free resources that they did not know existed, which I kind of think is amazing. He has written over 100 books, y'all, he's written 100 books. He has appeared on shows like Oprah, Larry King, The Good Morning America, and built a thriving online community that connects people to grants, businesses and funding and overlooked financial support. PS, I did math while I was listening, his, his community is like 5000 plus people. Yeah, that's crazy. From a string of failed businesses to becoming a recognizable voice for everyday people, Matthew has made it his mission to make support accessible. And it proves it's not about luck. It's about knowing where to look. So we're fired up about that. That was amazing. Tell me one of your favorite things about this convo. Lesley Logan 16:47  Okay. How many things can I talk about? But first I want to just like he emphasized, there's no single formula for success. He talks about how life and starting anything new, this is important, means dealing with failure, struggle and a lot of guesswork. My perfectionist, here it is from someone who's written 100 books and is 81 years old and seen it all. You know, it come like success actually comes from dealing with failure, struggling, a lot of guesswork. And he believes success doesn't come from knowing everything, but from possessing the energy and willingness to keep trying and learn from failures. Hold on. I have to, I have to say this. He strongly advocates that you follow your heart. Stated, he says the way to get anything done is your heart has to be in it. He also said your heart is smarter than your brain, and to trust that more than anything. And I love this, because I think, like a lot of people, like, well, what's specifically when we coach people on their Pilates business, I'm like, oh, you know, who do you want to help? Well, that's, I want to help everyone. Brad Crowell 17:45  Me, too. Lesley Logan 17:45  Right. But like, who do you want to help? Because if your heart's not in it, you're gonna really be annoyed helping the person that you don't want to help. And then you're if your heart's not in it, you're gonna start resenting them and, like, start going, oh, this becomes another job, right? Like, your heart has to be in what you're doing.Brad Crowell 18:01  Yeah, definitely. You know, it's so funny. We were just talking about this recently, where I feel like there's the two extremes, like I'll do anything for money. I'll only do it if I love it. And, you know, I know I kind of flip flopped over this, you know, during my life. And he has a very compelling argument to follow your heart, and I think also too, you know, he's very savvy. He's very business savvy. So he's been able to figure out how, by following his heart, can he also make money. And he's turned it into like a mission, and that mission has attracted other people who are like-minded. And, I mean, that is like the ideal scenario. Lesley Logan 18:45  Well, and also, if you realize, like, you know, first of all, you know, Big Magic is a great book for everyone to read. And some of your things that you love to do, that you're like, are creative, aren't meant for making money on. So that's, we're not. I don't think that Matthew or us are advocating that you like if you love pottery, that you go or you only make pots, and that's how you make money. That whatever you are setting yourself up to do, to go through the struggles, to go through the obstacles, to go through the failures, you'll, you have to actually want to do it. You can have to care about the problem that you're solving. If you don't care, you're not gonna be able to handle those obstacles. You're not gonna be able to go through it. You're gonna, you'll get, you'll get a door slam on your face and just go, okay, well, I'm not into it, right? So I think that's what he means, that your heart has to be in it. Like not everything you love doing will be a thing you make money on, but you gotta care about what you're doing. Gotta have care for it to be successful.Brad Crowell 19:40  Yeah, and I think there was something he said that just went right out of my mind. But he, he, he was talking about the when his, when he first, he actually, first off, I had no idea, he was in the military, but apparently he was in the military after he got out, he started.Lesley Logan 20:02  81 (inaudible). I don't think you get to be 81 and you weren't, unless you're an asshole, draft dodger dickhead. Anyway.Brad Crowell 20:02  That's fair. So he, he said he started a bunch of businesses and they failed. He started another business and they failed, and then he became a consultant, and that somehow, you know, was working, but then he was making millionaires billionaires. And he was like, that sucks. You know, he's like, these people don't care about anybody except for themselves. And he was not and he was not really enjoying it. And you know, he said he had this moment though, where he's showing up for the job, and he's like, uh, someday it's gonna be better and more fun, and then hopefully when I'm retired, I'll be able to go enjoy life. And he said, wait a minute. Why? Why should I keep doing something that I hate just hoping that someday it'll make it'll be better, it'll I will enjoy it more, or it's gonna pay me what I want to pay. He's like, I only have one life to live, and I'm better. I should start enjoying what I'm doing now. How do I do that? How do I do that? You know? So he said he flipped the script and decided to prioritize having fun. And he said having fun is contagious. He said it's a little contagious. In fact, you know, just his approach to the podcast was contagious and fun and joyful, you know. And he said it's also when you're doing something that feels fun, you are naturally motivated to work harder, right? So, you know, instead of like, kicking yourself to go get the thing done, that you have to do, what if you could do something that is fun, you know, you're gonna do it well, because you love doing it?Lesley Logan 21:37  Yeah. Yeah. It made me think a little bit about Gay Hendricks is, like, zone of genius kind of a thing. Like, I feel like. Brad Crowell 21:44  Sure.Lesley Logan 21:44  I feel like they're very similar, except for this one is, like, except for Matthew is teaching us how to get the money we need to go do the thing we love.Brad Crowell 21:54  Yeah, it's, it's very true, and he's encyclopedic with that, as well. He was very impressive. Lesley Logan 21:58  I will say. Like, if you listen to episode 400, Gay Hendricks will help you figure out what your zone of genius is. And then Matthew Lesko will give you all the websites for where you can get paid to do your zone of genius. I think that these are two must listen tos.Brad Crowell 22:12  Who knew that kind of a thing, just, mind-blowing. Lesley Logan 22:12  And I think that each state has that. You have to figure out, like, how does your state, how does your state make money? Right? Because every state's a little different. How they tax, what they tax. So like, obviously Nevada is not excited to help us unless we are a casino. So since we are not one of those things, we're not getting that. But at the same time, there's still going to be things we can reach out to figure like, find ways, because this, they do have local people who need.Brad Crowell 22:40  Yeah, gambling and tourism, that's how Nevada makes money.Lesley Logan 22:43  Yeah. So that's how that makes money. So, like, but we can figure out, like, okay, well, how, what does the city need, right? Because we actually don't live for, the strip is not part of Las Vegas, surprising. It's technically paradise, but, but, but you can figure out what your city needs to get, what your county needs to get, what state needs, and then go, oh, well, what are they? They're paying for that, they're giving out grants for that. Like, yeah, you do the paperwork. But like, not many people are. Brad Crowell 23:06  Not many people are. Lesley Logan 23:07  Remember, I forget her name, B-D B-D. Brad Crowell 23:12  B-E-A-T-Y? Lesley Logan 23:14  Yeah. No, no, B-E-A-T-T-E. She was on our on an episode of The Be It Pod, and she got a, she got an SBA grant because she filled out the fucking paperwork.Brad Crowell 23:26  Yeah, I. Lesley Logan 23:27  B-D Brad Crowell 23:28  Don't have her name there.Lesley Logan 23:30  Well, she's in the two hundreds. Let's see how.Brad Crowell 23:35  Oh, B-E-A-T-E Chalet, Chalet. She was, she,her interview was 196. I'm very proud.Lesley Logan 23:43  Ah, I was so close. And I was thinking, Beate Chelette, but I was like, no, I was confusing her with Aletta Rochat. And I was like, no, but actually, I should have said it out loud, because I was right. Anyway, so close, so close. Yeah, but she, if you guys listen to her episode 196 she actually got an SBA grant for her business idea. You know? Brad Crowell 24:05  I love that. Lesley Logan 24:05  Because she did the thing that Matthew said to do, make the appointment, sit down with the people like, fill out the thing. Anyways.Brad Crowell 24:13  Impressive. All right. Well, anyway, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into that amazing convo you had with him about the Be It Action Items, which y'all literally, you have to take notes like, it is, it's 100% you have to go back. You slow it down, listen to it twice, write down all the things he said. But we're gonna talk about it so. Lesley Logan 24:31  And it's also in the transcripts. Brad Crowell 24:33  Oh yeah, we'll put the links in the transcripts, but stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 24:37  Okay. Finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. Say it with me Mindi. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Matthew Lesko. He shared an abundance of untapped government resources, both state and federal. By the way, it's not just the federal.Lesley Logan 25:00  And I guess for the people who live internationally, I imagine these things probably exist in a lot of places you live. Brad Crowell 25:05  I'm 100% sure about Canada. In fact, I have a lot of musician friends who would get grants in Canada where the Canadian government was willing to sponsor. Lesley Logan 25:14  Yes. We have had guests who do that. That is amazing. Brad Crowell 25:16  Yeah. And that that like, I don't even maybe that's available here too. I have no idea, but I'll tell you. You know, that was seemed to me like, like my college friends were like, I want to make an album. And they literally applied to the Canadian federal government, and they got like, 10 grand to make an album. And I was in college going, how the hell, why can't I get 10 grand? Lesley Logan 25:36  I mean, they were Canadian, obviously. Brad Crowell 25:38  Yeah, they were, they were obviously Canadian. So anyway, he shared a bunch of untapped resources. He said that 40% of everything in our economy are organizations that give you free money to solve a problem. I don't really understand that statistic, and I can't actually validate that, but he's been doing this for four decades, y'all, so he knows all these things. He emphasized that these programs are already paid for with our tax dollars. So it's on us to take advantage of them, or the money just sits there, it doesn't get used, right? And also, it might not be the kind of thing that they get to they don't just hoard it and pile it. It might be like, hey, you can give up to $2 million away, but if they don't, they don't get to keep it, right? So basically, it's on us to go take advantage of what is available to us. And it was fascinating to listen to him talk about the different reasons that someone might want to go get a talk to these organizations and go through the process. He emphasized that, well, yeah, there, and this stuff is already funded. It's already paid for. He advised the to seek out free government and nonprofit resources directly, rather than relying on standard search engines like Google, specifically, because they don't actually do SEO, or they're gated searches, you can't actually search them with outside search engines like Google. Right? And so basically, he gave us examples like findhelp.org which is amazing. It's about local finding local help for things like food, housing, health, money.Lesley Logan 27:04  That, right there is so amazing how many people are struggling to afford groceries right now. Like, maybe, maybe you're not someone who is it, but maybe someone you know is. You can send them that information. Brad Crowell 27:15  findhelp.org you know, and there will be links in the show notes. So there's more links in the show notes. Lesley Logan 27:22  So many. Brad Crowell 27:22  Yeah. He talked about the SBA. He talked about Apex Accelerators, which I've never heard of before. He talked about career and job training. Lesley Logan 27:30  Oh, and turn your VPNs off, y'all. Brad Crowell 27:31  Yeah, yeah. They're, you know, if they're a government side, it might have trouble if you have a VPN on. He talked about HUD, which is like another United States government, housing urban development, and he said, there's free financial and debt counseling, right? And they can help you get out of debt.Lesley Logan 27:48  I mean, I had no idea, because, like so many of my friends and everyone had, like, use those companies that can, like, you know, supposedly help, but it could affect your credit at the same time. Like, who? Who knew if you use the government agency, maybe it would have been different.Brad Crowell 28:02  I wish I had known when I when I had a failed business. It would have been really helpful. Wish I had known. So anyway, what about you? I mean, all those things and there's still more. Lesley Logan 28:11  Okay, so we said it already. We're gonna say it again, because it's a Be It Action Item. Once you find a resource, book an appointment, okay? Matthew said, everybody just wants to fill out on application online, and wait for the money. You can't do that, he said, because you don't know. Brad Crowell 28:23  What did everybody wants to say what? Lesley Logan 28:23  Everybody wants to just fill out the applications online. Like, you know, like, oh, let me just do it online. It's just copy paste, copy paste. And he's saying, don't do that, because you don't know how the application should be filled out. And, like, there's always the little nuances, right? Like, we're currently working with lawyers who are filling out legal forms for us to go to Canada. So if we had done it ourselves, we wouldn't know the insight and the nuances to like, oh, actually, put this instead of that, because this will get you across. And that is actually going to be like, we have enough of those. So like, you want to make sure that you're working with someone who's like, fighting for you to fill it out correctly will tell you what certain things mean. I mean, sometimes I don't even know. It's like, you're like, oh, I think that's where I put my business name, and it's not, it's where you put your account number or something like that. So, you know, just work with the people. They're in the office I'm talking, I'm sure it'll brighten their day to hear what you're working on, right, what you need help with. Also, they often know the other people in the area, the community, the other resources to help you, right, like, oh, if I'm not the right resource, this person is, if you're starting a business or a nonprofit or side hustle, the smartest move is to call your local SBA office and speak with a counselor. Again, not something online, not a chatGPT. You gotta go and talk to someone. And then he also said, talk to experts who.Brad Crowell 29:42  SBA stands for Small Business Administration, right? So that's a federal government thing, but they have local offices around the country, so you can actually go in and make an appointment to to their office. In fact, also too, not that I'm like, a huge fan of the big banks, but big banks actually often have training programs for business owners, too.Lesley Logan 30:02  Yes, but we're not fans of big banks because they won't help you get an SBA.Brad Crowell 30:05  Almost never will they help you get a loan. But, you know, there are resources available there too, but the SBA is actually, like, trying to help you get the money. Lesley Logan 30:13  Yeah, I would fuck the big banks.Brad Crowell 30:17  If the big banks, like, honestly, the SBA doesn't let you apply for SBA funding directly through the SBA. You have to apply through a bank. You don't necessarily need to apply through a big bank, though. So that's the difference there.Lesley Logan 30:30  Right. So, and then also make sure you have the experts who can help you, help people like you, guide you to the right programs and the paperwork, and they usually do this for free. And you know, he's someone who loves to help people. So, like, there's, there's things out there. You're not on your own. Your friends and family might not be the best people to ask, but, you know what? Go to these offices and go, oh, they can't help you. Do you know who? Do you know who will, who can? Like, what else should I search? What should I be searching? Because I get the right thing. Like, they'll, they'll even, even at the DMV people help me, if you just ask the right questions and you're really nice. So trust me, people want to help people. Brad Crowell 30:34  Yeah, it's true. It's true. Well, what a wealth of information. Also, he has like, here's like, books that are like, $20 so, like, even if you're, you know, look, if you're looking for more and you, you know, want to check out his resources. He has that community. The community he built is like people trying to help people find the right stuff. So, I mean, it's just curious. It's just fascinating.Lesley Logan 31:29  Sounds super positive. Brad Crowell 31:30  It sounds really positive, yeah. Lesley Logan 31:31  Yeah. Who doesn't need that in their life? Anyways, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Brad Crowell 31:36  Share it. Send it.Lesley Logan 31:37  This is the episode to share. There's so much in there for people, everybody.Brad Crowell 31:41  Episode 545, y'all, share it. Lesley Logan 31:43  545Brad Crowell 31:44  545Lesley Logan 31:44  I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 31:45  And I'm Brad Crowell. Thanks so much for being here. Lesley Logan 31:48  Oh, okay, you totally did. Show. We already said to share this. So now, go Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 31:55  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 31:57  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 32:39  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 32:44  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 32:49  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 32:55  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 32:59  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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In this episode of The Perspectivalist, Pastor Uri Brito welcomes Rev. Benjamin Glaser of the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church (ARP) to talk all things ARP—from its rich confessional heritage to its present role in the American ecclesiastical landscape.

Ministers from the ARP and OPC, Ben Glaser and Chris Drew, join us for reports about their recent synod and assembly. We also discussed issues of kinism and race realism on the margins of the presbyterian and Reformed world and Glaser's statement on these issues, which was commended by both the RPCNA and the PCA. Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhYcXIHf8g8

There's a world of free resources and government support waiting to be claimed and Matthew Lesko is on a mission to help you find it. In this episode, Lesley Logan chats with the iconic author and endearing personality to explore how anyone can access funding, assistance, and programs already available to them. Lesko's unfiltered advice, contagious energy, If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Matthew Lesko followed his heart to create a mission-driven career.Why helping others became more meaningful than making millions.The mindset shifts from chasing success to creating an impact.Where to find real programs offering free financial aid and support.How to access small business and government contracting support.Episode References/Links:Matthew Lesko Help Free Membership - www.beitpod.com/leskohelpFind Local Help for Basic Needs – www.findhelp.orgSmall Business Support (SBA Local Assistance) – www.sba.gov/local-assistanceGovernment Contracting Support (Apex Accelerators) – www.apexaccelerators.usCareer & Job Training Help – www.careeronestop.orgFree Financial & Debt Counseling (HUD) – www.hud.gov/housingcounselingGuest Bio:Matthew Lesko is a nationally recognized author, researcher, and consumer advocate known for helping people access free government money and resources. For over 40 years, he's made it his mission to show everyday Americans how to find funding for education, business, debt relief, housing, and more. With over 100 books published, Lesko has turned complex government programs into easy-to-use guides that empower individuals to take control of their financial future. His work has been featured on major platforms like Oprah, Larry King Live, and Good Morning America, where he's become known for his energetic style and signature question-mark suit.Lesko's passion goes beyond publishing. He leads a community of over 15,000 members who support each other in navigating hidden funding opportunities. Through this platform, he also gives back—distributing monthly grants to help others get started. At the core of his work is a simple belief: you don't need to be wealthy to get support—you just need to know where to look. 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You got to trust that more than anything. And sometimes you can't get there until you fail your assLesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:56  Be It babe, this is for you. This episode is for you. I mean, they're all for you, but this one I've been waiting for since the day I met this man. I was like, no way, no freaking way. This is real. And it is real because, and the reason I know is because I, before I met this guy, have been trying to do this with my business and going through some of the hoops that do it. And I think he just made it even easier. So Matthew Lesko is our guest. He is a wonderful, brilliant, hilariously honest man with so much love, and he is all the websites, all the keys, all the kingdom to helping you get the money assistance you need, like free money. But then He even tells you how you can get better money. So I know that that can sound like an infomercial. I know that they can sound like it's too good to be true. I promise you that, like, you do have some hoops to jump through, but I want you to get I want you to have everything you need. And I know some of you have debt that's holding you back, or you need money to make this idea happen, or you need the job training to make this idea happen. And literally, in this episode, he's gonna give you URLs that could help you do that. And if you want accountability community, he has that for you as well. So Matthew Lesko is our guest. You're gonna, you're gonna want to have a pen and paper for when he starts doing these, but we'll have the links in the show notes, so just check the show notes. All right, thank you, Matthew Lesko, you're amazing. Y'all, here he is. Lesley Logan 2:14  All right, Be It, babe. I am super excited. First of all, if you're not watching this on YouTube, you're gonna want to see the man that's in front of me, because he has never let me down the two times I've seen him. He has the best suits on, the best glasses on, the most gorgeous hair. Matthew Lesko, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Matthew Lesko 2:36  Matthew Lesko, what I rock at? Boy, I just struggle. That's what rocking is. Man, it takes work to get through this shit, you know, everybody thinks there's some formula. No, there's no formula. You're guessing your ass off every day and hoping something works. The only thing you need is energy to do stuff, because the more stuff you do, because any, any that you get some plan about what to do in life, and that's not going to work, don't worry about it. But you could try maybe a little bit there you could do, but you got to figure your own shit out. And, but help could help you, just at least get you a little bit on the way. But, yeah, that's what it is. We all struggle and the experts want to make a lot of money to try to convince you they know the secret to life. Now they don't know what the fuck to do with their own life, you know. And so maybe you can claim little items to open your mind a little bit more. But really, life is trying something and failing. It's, it's like, if you're going to do something new in life, that's like learning to walk, you know, or learning to ride a bike, you're going to fall on your ass a lot. That's, what I think here is your loved ones are your worst enemy, because they say, don't do that. You're going to fail. Yes, you are. You're going to run into big bumps in the road. You're going to fail at something, and you just keep fucking going because you want to do that. So that's why key in life is not knowing exactly what to do, because nobody really knows, and you have to figure that out. That's a trial and error. And what you have to do is you use your brain as little as possible. Follow your heart as much as you can. I mean, you got to have the brain part, you know, so you don't fall off a cliff and do something really fucking stupid. But the way to get anything done is your heart has to be in it. I mean, whether it's professional life or personal life, man, if your heart and soul is not there, you're not going to make it happen, because it's going to be a pain in the ass, and you're going to leave on the second time it's a pain in the ass, or maybe the third.Lesley Logan 4:45  Yeah or some people the first time because they think it should be easier. Or, like, I've heard people say, oh, this is a sign I'm not supposed to do it. It's like, no.Matthew Lesko 4:55  That's a sign you're human. Lesley Logan 4:56  Yeah. I mean, like, like, everyone has obstacles. I really appreciate this honesty. Thank you so much, because it's true. Like, you know, while we're doing this, my husband's actually talking to some business owners that we're hoping to coach, and we tell them, they're like, okay, well, what's the template like? In six weeks how much money am I going to make? And then we're like, anyone who's telling you that there's a template (inaudible) yeah, like this, because they've had so many good business coaches tell them, oh, follow this plan, you'll have 100k launch. You'll have this da-da-da but like that doesn't that's not how it works, because the amount of time you can put into this brilliant idea that you're passionate about is very different than the person next to you. The amount of money you're coming into this brilliant idea with is very different, and then also the life that's around you, or if you have an audience for this idea already, or you have to build it first, like, you can't, don't, I was, like, the quickest thing to know that someone's lying to you is if they have a plan. Because, like, like, I what's the thing? Like, you have a plan and God laughs, or something like that. Like, like, you know, it's just, but it doesn't mean that there's not options or ideas or good things that are out there. It's just that, I think people think, if I buy the plan, and that's going to be the thing, that's going to get me there, as opposed to starting with what you said, which is, like, do you really want to do it? Are you that passionate about it that you'll do it even if you fail? Matthew Lesko 6:18  Right, because you are going to fail. I mean, there are going to be bumps in the road, reasons to not go forward, and that's when people quit, and then they try something else and they try something else, and that's why, even on a, personally, for your heart, I mean, my rule of thumb is your heart is smarter than your brain. You got to trust that more than anything. And, and sometimes you can't get there until you fail your ass off, then there's nothing left. And, and you know that you're special, but you have to find out what you're special in. That's the problem. We go to classes and experts and, and tell us, they're just giving you a clue they don't know, because we're all so different. I mean, you're a rose and I'm a petunia, you know? And how are you going to make a petunia into a rose? Lesley Logan 7:13  And then everyone tries to treat each other like they're a tulip, and no one wants to be taller than the other, right? But you're really a rose and a petunia in a tulip field. Okay, so you Matthew, I feel like you are like coming into our ears today and like giving us true honesty, but also like you clearly lived a life. You've got this gorgeous white hair, you lived this life and also, I don't think anyone like knows how to say this, the way that you're saying it, with so much honesty and love, unless you've, like, lived through lives like you've lived through. Because, you know, it takes time, it takes time to (inaudible) so tell, can you tell us all about how you got, like, what you did before you became a petunia who's bestowing us in all this honesty?Matthew Lesko 8:00  I, god, I'm 81 years old. Can't remember that far, but I do it, really struggled, I mean, I was never good at anything. You know, that's why I just adore artists, because they know what the fuck they have to do, you know, but if you can't sing, dance or whatever, and you don't know what you're really supposed to do every day, and the rest of us have to figure that out. But the longer I do that, the more I see, yes, we all are artists like that is something we have to get up the morning, and there's something inside of us that possesses us to do something because you feel it's important, because you feel it's helping somebody, like now, at 81, I work harder now than ever before. It's not work. I haven't worked in 50 years, and part of, it's having fun in the process. So what I was doing, I was getting I am failing through college and all that kind of thing. When in Navy, I was a naval officer, ship driver, came back, that was Vietnam, and I got an MBA, started businesses that were failing. I had a software company in the 70s that was failing. I was, like, computer science professor, starting another business that failed, a bunch of failures. And I started looking, wow, I'm failing, not having fun, and I'm doing all this shit that maybe in 30, 40, years from now, I'll have fun, and that's crazy. I'm not having any fun, and I'm not successful at it. And so what I did is sort of finally flipped it around. Have fun today, because when you start having fun, you know that's a little contagious. Then also, if you're doing something that you feel you're having fun at, you'll work harder at. You hate playing basketball, but you love golf. You'll be on the golf course still, they have to drag you off, you know. And that's, so, that's what happened. That's how you really learn, that's how you really grow. You're into something you want to be there no matter what and then when I start doing that, then, and I think the other thing is, I find I had to, you have to look inside, you know, help may or may not be have outside, but you really have to be aware of what's inside you listen to that inside you, because that's really the important stuff that's going to come out, and it's hard to listen to it, because we don't, none of us know what the hell to do in life. We're all guessing you know and there's no empathy for that, because the people, coaches, you have to pretend, you know so you could charge a lot of money for what you're guessing about, you know, because that's what people want to hear. You know, unfortunately. Lesley Logan 10:58  Yeah, I think, well, if people are afraid to take risks, because, I mean, you know, you know, you've lived a whole life. Like, if you take, if you are putting your own money into something as an idea and it fails, the the bills don't care, right? Like, they don't care. So, like, you know, like, something that I had someone say, like, there's like, six needs that we all have as humans, certainty and uncertainty. Matthew Lesko 11:30  I thought you said sex needs. Lesley Logan 11:31  Sex needs yes, yes, yes, yes. Six needs. Certainty, uncertainty, love and connection, I think one of them has to do with like, uh, significance, excuse me, it's like power, that you mean something, then we also need growth and contribution. The growth and contribution are more like choices. The other four you like, are like, really needs. And I think, like, a lot of us don't want to take a risk on the thing that's on our heart that we know we're supposed to do unless we have certainty that it won't fail, because this job over here that we hate is paying the bills.Matthew Lesko 12:12  Well, to me, you have to do both. You have to be responsible to yourself and the bills and everything and then any waking hour extra you have is to concentrate on finding out what that is inside you. Because if you don't do that, you know it's just life is so much harder. And boy, 81, I am so fucking happy now. I can't believe it. And for I never do, like, live so long, and I didn't know maybe this time I'll have this much fun. I mean, I say, god, if I knew being 81 was this much fun, I would have gotten here a lot fucking earlier, man, why did I wait so long? Lesley Logan 12:59  You are amazing. Because my dad is 72 and I'm like, oh, and he's like, now, like, older than any of the men in his family, right, that have ever lived. And so, like, where it was like, let's get him to 70 like, the whole like, let's get a 72 no one's ever made it to 72 like, let's see. And I was like, you're gonna live to 100 you better watch out. He goes, I don't want to live to 100 but, like, I think clearly the difference is attitude, like you were like, you had that idea, like, have fun today, and now, clearly, and being it till you see it of have fun today, you're having so much fun at 81 you're like, I should have gotten here faster. Matthew Lesko 13:33  Well, another thing that's really happened just last few a years too, is that most of men and your dad's 10 years younger than me or whatever. At least my life, most of it was trying to get stronger, faster, smarter. Well, at 80, none of that shit is going to get better. All that's going downhill. But what I figured out just a couple years ago, more so, is that I could love harder. Now there's one thing I get harder at any age. I could just love harder. And in my generation, I don't know if your dad's the same way. I couldn't even say that word unless they married you.Lesley Logan 14:14  Right, right. No, I think, literally, I don't think he says he loves anyone except for his kids right now.Matthew Lesko 14:20  Never heard it from my family even. And you know what changed me a lot were lesbians. I live in an apartment building here, 70, a lot of cool people, younger people, usually. And there was a woman next to us (inaudible) we really got close and that she she's my gateway drug to saying I love you to a woman, it was safe. Lesley Logan 14:44  Yeah, because it didn't mean anything, she didn't care, like she loved being loved, but didn't take it the wrong way. That's so funny. I know it's really true. Like I like one of my girlfriends, I just rung on the phone the other day, and she had, like, her father passed, and, you know, we end every phone call I love you. And like, you know, I think, yeah, yeah, well, we, you know, we can change it. I, okay. So you are full of so much information. So as far as like, I mean, you are giving us so many good gems, and we can all love harder, but you actually are, I think maybe, like, you actually are, like, the person who helps people. You are an expert in helping people get, get money. So how did, how did you get here? And what are we talking about? Because, like, I when I met you and you told me this, I was like, no freaking way. But then I said that about Pilates, and now I'm a Pilates instructor, so I it's my it's like my sign when I go, no fuck no way, no fucking way. That's like some be it. No way. No one can do that. So can you tell us a little about, like, what you do when you're not just loving on people?Matthew Lesko 15:54  It is, by accident, again, my business has failed, and so what you do is become a consultant. So I have a consultant, like a researcher at the time, back in 70s, for Fortune 500 companies that wanted to do stuff, and I was in Washington, so they wanted to get money to start businesses and buy companies and find out the market for stuff. So I was in Washington, and I'd get I'd go around Washington and find help for them, and offices that give you money, offices that give you free reports on the markets for anything like I did one for Procter & Gamble on pasta, and I found a pasta expert in Washington who just spent a million dollars on some study on what's the good and bad about pasta business, and who makes money and where to get money. And so I take that stuff, and I take the government's name off of it, put my name on it, because nothing in the government is copyrighted, and I thank the department or whatever, and sell it to them for thousands of dollars. They loved it, millionaires, and that's why I saw I was making billionaires out of millionaires. I said, why does the average person know about it? Well I said I want to people. And that was my first successful business. So I was, you know, very happy with that. And but then to reach people on the street had to do with books. I couldn't charge $20,000 to do that. And so then to sell books and through publicity and doing talk shows and stuff like that. And I've been doing that for a long time, but what I see, see anybody can use it, the government, see, 40% of everything in our economy is our organizations that give you free money to solve a problem, whether it's you know, you need money to get out of debt. You need money to get rid of your your bills as an expense. You need money to start a business. You need money to get an education or get a better job. You need money to buy a house or fix up your house. You need money for I was anything you want. Is there health care, free, legal help? It's all in the government we I was finding government grant the other day for you want to buy out your boss. You know, $250,000 they'll give you in this is Colorado. To do that. Wisconsin will give you $250,000 just start a business as long as you stay there 15 years.Lesley Logan 18:25  What? I didn't know about Oklahoma. I think there was like a thing where Oklahoma City was trying to get people to move there. So you would get, (inaudible) you got like, $20,000 put down on a place to live in Oaklahoma City and then they would give you $10,000 a year. And I was like, and you had to, and all you had to do was stay for two years, so and then you could rent the house out, or whatever. And I was like, two years, and I could own a property in Oklahoma City, then I could rent it out, like I work for myself. Am I interested? And like, going back to your heart, like my heart wasn't in it. So I was like, that sounds like it's not enough money for me. But like that, I did know about that, so I didn't realize, like, Okay, this is so cool. So, like, all these states have different stuff. You just have to know it exists. The government has this. I think we all just have to, like, can we just, like, take a brief moment we are recording this two months into a shit show. Is there still gonna be money for all of us. Matthew Lesko 19:21  Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, this is more show business that's going on for the average person. It's all still there. The downside, if all that still works, none of his stuff is legal yet. He just does it and wait till somebody stops him and but what's important is that, can you go online now? Let me show you something. Okay, okay, go on to findhelp.org.Lesley Logan 19:52  findhelp.org okay. Matthew Lesko 19:55  Right. Okay findhelp.org. Put in your zip code. I don't know what Vegas is, what's the OE on your hand? Lesley Logan 20:04  Oh, it's part of my hand my other hand tattoo. The other half is my husband and and it, and it, he has the LV, so it's the love tatoo. He's from Philly. There we go. We're in. We're in. You're so smart Matthew. You're like, okay, it didn't like, it doesn't like a VPN. So everyone, when you go to this, turn off your VPN, which is kind of like Hulu, doesn't like your VPN either. Okay, so I put in my zip code. Okay, there are 2738 programs in Las Vegas, Nevada. Matthew Lesko 20:38  So anyways, 2700 programs, those programs are all from nonprofit agencies or government offices. That means they all give you money or free help. None of them will never charge you a nickel for what they have. The government gives an average of $18,000 to every adult through programs like this every year, and that's me. And so you have, what, 1800 of them. And so, like, if you. Lesley Logan 21:02  2700 of them, yes, yes.Matthew Lesko 21:04  2700 yeah, incredible. I mean, and that's for anything. Look at the tabs on top. Lesley Logan 21:13  Yeah, there's tabs for food. There's, uh, which, like, which, when you tab on that, it has, like, community gardens, emergency food, food pantries, meals, housing, there's 22 things in housing, goods, there's a ton of stuff in goods, transit, they'll help you buy bus passes, health, money.Matthew Lesko 21:36  Oh, up in the there's the little search bar on the left hand side, on top, put in financial assistance.Lesley Logan 21:44  Okay, here we go. Matthew Lesko 21:45  How many you have there? Lesley Logan 21:50  This? It's showing me 791 pages, and there's 10 listings on each page. That's 7000.Matthew Lesko 22:02  Those people are there to give you free financial assistance. Most of us, well, we got to go to the bank, or we got to rob a 7/11 yeah and that's the options people don't know. That's why I think Google is ruining our country, because everyone's going to Google, and you can't find these in Google because they don't advertise.Lesley Logan 22:24  Right and they're not doing the SEO game. They're not, they don't have time for that. So yeah. Thank you for explaining that because I was just thinking, like, oh, I just like, you know, a couple years ago, my husband and I were trying to get a business loan for our business to help grow it. And we, of course, went to our bank, and we banked with since the dawn of my business, and I've always made more money every year. And they're like, no, you don't get any money from us because you're so small we don't care about you. So then I Googled, like, small business and like, like, nothing, except for all these banks and credit you like, these people don't want me. I'm not banking with them. We had to, like, we actually went to a wee bank event, and that's how my husband found someone who wanted to, like, invest in our business. But, like, this is really cool. So this, like, okay, but like, really, Matthew, so, like, a lot of this, there's stuff for people, like, for housing, so well, I can, there's one I'm saying, like, for people who have babies in NICU, this is amazing. So like, can I find financial assistance for my idea, for my business idea, or is it like?Matthew Lesko 23:26  No, not there, though, let me show you another website. Okay, okay, sba.gov/local-assistance. Lesley Logan 23:38  I see it. Okay.Matthew Lesko 23:41  Local hyphen assistance. You get there, after (inaudible) and there's a place (inaudible) your zip code.Lesley Logan 23:49  Yes, there is. And you can put a distance. And I'm just going to keep it small. Let's see. (inaudible)Matthew Lesko 23:54  Most of this stuff is remote anyway, so it doesn't matter where they are. Lesley Logan 23:57  Yeah, there's, like, it's telling me about the main off, the Las Vegas this, like, the SBA of Las Vegas is, like, down the street from my house.Matthew Lesko 23:59  Many other places that usually the non-SBA are better.Lesley Logan 24:10  Okay, there's, yeah, there's a just in, in, in 25 miles. Looks like I have about 15 options to go through. So, and that's like, that's just like in the like, that's just like the county, yeah. Matthew Lesko 24:25  Every one of them are people that are there to help you find money and help you need to start or expand anything. So the best way to do it, and the way you do this, to me, my advice is to call and make appointments with as many as you can. Everybody has different ideas about how to do things and whatever, and different sources and all that kind of stuff, but they're all there to help anybody who calls to start their business help you find money. Help you find technical help, legal help. Help you do your taxes, all for free, and it's or strategize for strategy. And one of the things I think is best, too, for someone like you, you're you're providing help to people as a service that see if the the government buys that service, what's better from the government is not a grant, is really a contract that you get a government contract, you know, to sell your services to the government, or from a what they do, they spend a lot of money teaching people how to start a business. So like at your what's called the career one-stop center. You go, that's another thing for getting a job or things like that, or even starting a business. And they, they, they pay people to train people to help start a business, so you could be a contractor for somebody like that. Contracting is better than any kind of grant, because you get that forever (inaudible).Lesley Logan 26:01  Yeah, yeah. I am. We actually, in the last year, been working on certifying our business, because, like, there's some contracts that you're more likely to get if you're certified women-owned business or things like that. But like, I got to, like, look for some of these contracts, like websites for that, and it is insane how many, like, how many government contracts are wanting to use, like, they're like, we need like, like, the military is like, hey, we have a ton of people who want to do the military, and they are not in shape. So the military is looking for Pilates instructors or trainers or nutritionists to just help them with this problem they have. And like the truth is, is that most of us don't know these things exist, and we're the ones who's got the passion.Matthew Lesko 26:47  Let me show you the best place for that. Now you could use what I just gave you, and they would help you. There's a better place. It's called Apex Accelerators A-P-E-X and then I, I will screw it up if I try to spell accelerator.Lesley Logan 27:04  It's okay Apex Accelerators I know, it's one of those words.Matthew Lesko 27:06  Yeah, and then, but dot U-S. Lesley Logan 27:09  Okay. Matthew Lesko 27:10  Now that's, that's a free service that just specializes in helping people get contracts.Lesley Logan 27:16  Wow. Well, that's even more fun because then I don't have to learn how to do it. Matthew Lesko 27:21  Exactly, right. Lesley Logan 27:23  Because it can be a lot, oh my gosh, this is insane. You guys, you could put your zip code in, okay, and it says, find an apex accelerator near you. And guess what? There is, there's, there's one like, it looks like it's right, oh my gosh. It's like down the street from my it's like down the street from my house. (inaudible) Yeah, make an appointment. Okay, so, okay, Matthew, this is amazing. First of all, you gave us more than I expected. Uh, how do you do this? What do you, why? But why, why help all of us? Matthew Lesko 28:03  You just showed me why? Look at your excitement. Boy, if I could do that to somebody that is just the nicest feeling in the world, yeah, I mean, like, wow. I mean, to a human that could react to something I know, and that's like, you know, my pair of socks or something, I don't even think I know it, but when I see you and you see us, that joy and that smile, that that I could do that to human at 81 that's pretty special. Lesley Logan 28:41  Wow. Well, then you're welcome. I promise you. Right now, Matthew, my husband, is listening to me, listening to this for the replay. So when he listens to that part, he's gonna he, that's what he's gonna say. He's gonna go my wife, and he's gonna shake his head, she's so humble. Okay, we're gonna take a brief break, and then we're gonna find out how people can work with you on this, because I have a feeling that, like there's ways like that they could work more with you on this. Lesley Logan 29:09  All right, Matthew, because you just gave us, and this is really great, but I actually do think that, like, do you have a group or a place that people can get ongoing help? Because obviously you're not a recurring guest here, so they can re-listen to this episode for those, like, really amazing mantras you've given us. But like, how else can they get, can they work with you?Matthew Lesko 29:40  A survey that, it took me many years to figure out how I could create income. I like paying for my own way, and after people start buying reference books with the computers and website, it took me a while, but and so I started a newsletter, and then what it turned into is a community. So I have a community now of 15,000 people that help each other get these programs. See, and I only charge $20 I didn't want to charge thousands like I did. I want to get the information to people who really need this. Otherwise, helping millionaires become billionaires was really boring. The millionaires aren't much fun. All they care about is money and not much of the heart is there, but people who really need it is more satisfying. So this is only $20 I charge for everything. Unlimited help for $20 because members help. Like today, we'll have four or five Zoom calls with members asking question as taking questions on how they got the money. So you have actually members how they got it, and they share it with you, and it became so profitable I can't really fathom too much is that we give out our own grants. We give out about 40% of all our money goes back to members and grants. So we give out like, $40,000, $70,000 every month back to members. Yeah, and four different kind of grants and, and that's, I mean, I really feel cool. Lesley Logan 31:17  I mean, you're a badass, you're really cool, but you're like, a bad ass. You're like, you're like, it's like, not even Robin Hood, because you're not taking from bad people. You're like, actually, like, good people are paying in to help good people.Matthew Lesko 31:30  Whatever it is. It seems like I thought you had to be Jeff Bezos or his ex-wife or something like that, to be able to do this, to give up, but it is and that's, I never thought I'd be able to do that. And that's really satisfying.Lesley Logan 31:46  Well, this is, I mean, thank you. We're gonna put the links to your group and everything below, because the thing that I think keeps people from being it till they see it is oftentimes the affordability of it. Like they get stuck in that. As a business owner, I have always reinvested in my business, but like the ability to grow it required some capital, because you can't risk the savings account. And the IRS might not go after Jeff Bezos, but he certainly comes after me, so I have to pay my bill, you know, I can't go, oh, it's coming. I just, I'm doing a thing. I tried something new. So it when I had a bank go, hey, here is this with this really, really, mine's not even free money. But you, you're talking about free money. Like, I actually have been able to grow my business, and we haven't touched the money. Just like having it there meant that we could, like, be a little riskier, and it's paying off, you know, so, like, I just so I just know how impactful it's been for me. And, my goodness, if I knew this 10 years ago, like, I think we'd be in a different place. But I'm so grateful I got to meet you today. You have given us so much, some are great talks. But I love to end every episode with bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Matthew Lesko 33:00  Well, I mean is, if you want to do an idea, say, if you want to start a nonprofit, you want to start a business, you want to start a business at your home. You want to be a freelancer. You have an invention to work on, you go to that sba.gov/ and then local if an assistance, and you make an appointment. You make an appointment 1, 2, 3 or whatever, and you have to do that. Everybody wants to fill out an application and wait for the money. You can't do that because you don't know the application to fill out. You got to get experts and talk to experts who help people like you every day. And they're available for free, but they're not in Google. You can't use that. So you go, if it's for professional you go to sba.gov/localassistance. If it's for education or job training, you go to careeronestop.org that's another clearing house, and you put in your zip code to find a counselor to tell you about government money programs to help you train for a better job, so you want to get a skill to make better money, and things like that. They'll help you with that. Okay? And then if you have financial problems, you go to hud, hud.gov/counseling H-U-D for hud.gov/counseling and you put in your zip code there, and you get a free financial counselor sit down and work out your debts, your bills and all that stuff, so you don't carry that burden in the back of your head forever and get that, get that monkey off your back, And they'll do all that for free.Lesley Logan 34:42  Oh, my God. Matthew Lesko, thank you. Thank you. I, like, I love, like, seven different people for each one of those email addresses. Like, it's in my, just in my, like, phone, my contacts, and so, um, you guys, I know you're gonna share this with a friend. I know you are because, like, I think what I do hear people going, it can't be that easy. It's not going to be easy. I'm sure you're going to have to fill out paperwork, you have to make these appointments, you have to get the steps. But it's there, it's there, and because so few people will take the steps and do the thing like you're you're not in a huge competition. So you know what, babe, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Thank you, Matthew Lesko. Go check out his group. Go check out what he's doing, and then report back. Let us know what you were able to do with it. Let us know what, what, what grant you did or what website you did, or how it helped your friend. Because I think it'll make Matthew Lesko's day.Matthew Lesko 35:37  Let me see a smile. Lesley Logan 35:37  Yeah, y'all, you know what to do. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 35:43  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 36:26  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 36:30  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 36:35  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 36:42  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 36:45  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

It's the halfway point of the year and Lesley Logan is bringing big energy to this FYF episode. She shares a powerful story of social impact, celebrates community wins, and reveals two major personal victories including a successful pivot for OPC's Spring Training and a game-changing summer setup at home. Let this episode remind you that ease and effort can absolutely coexist.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Flau'jae Johnson is changing lives through debt relief and financial literacy.Sonia Ahmed's branding shoots as a powerful act of visibility.Ainsley Walker's multi-faceted wins in community, self-care, and action.The importance of community in offering perspective and inspiration.A behind-the-scenes look at the OPC team's pivot for Spring Training.Smart ways Lesley and Brad beat the Vegas heat and improved sleep quality.Episode References/Links:@femalequotient - https://www.instagram.com/p/DHWTzvLvwx9 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/ Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:44  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? We made it to the end of June. Holy freaking moly. Halfway through the year. We did it. You did it. Have you out of all the Fridays halfway through the year, have you celebrated wins on each Friday? Maybe you celebrate them all week long. Maybe you celebrate them every single day. I don't know. I want to know. Send your wins in. Send how you, how you celebrate that. Send how you reflect, reflect, reflect, correct and continue. Because we would love to share those out on these episodes to help other be it till you see it. Listeners rock what they got. You know, like, we're in this together, right? A couple episodes of FYFs ago, like, talked about, like, how, when you stand up for yourself, it's Maya Angelou, is like, without knowing that you are actually standing up for all women, right? And I think that's really cool. Think it's really cool. So on these episodes, I share something that inspired me, something that's a win from you, a win of mine, and then a mantra. Lesley Logan 1:32  So on Instagram, I saw this, Flau'jae Johnson is eliminating 5 million of dollars of debt for Louisiana families, that's right, you guys, the LSU basketball star and business major is teaming up with Experian to erase $5 million in medical debt for 5000 families in Louisiana, while also championing financial education. Women are at the heart of the global economy making the majority of a household purchases, purchasing decisions. Yet only 30% of women worldwide are considered financially literate. The gap isn't just about money, it's about power, independence and opportunity. You know what's bigger than basketball? Financial empowerment, Johnson says, and she's leading by example. Flau'jae, you're fucking a badass. So y'all can follow her. She's got 2 million followers. She's amazing. She's kicking ass in basketball. And, like, I just love that she's able to use, use this to do change. You know, I just think, wow, it's amazing. Can you imagine being in those families, maybe we shouldn't have to have those families. They shouldn't have to have this medical debt. But like, I love that she's doing this, and I love that she teamed up with companies who can make this happen, so that that not only are they out of that debt, but then women are learning how to be financially literate from a young age. I'm just obsessed. So thank you for inspiring me, babe, that is what I needed this week. Lesley Logan 2:44  All right, let's get to a win of yours. All right. This one is from Sonia Ahmed. Had my first professional branding shoot. Photo shoot yesterday, got pics with my clients in my studio, some of me in the studio, and then some of me out and about on my laptop for my consulting work. I'm so excited. It's so nice to have photos like, it is a win when you're like, okay, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna plan this. I'm gonna do this thing. Because, like, it's just we need them. We need them. I, like, how, I hate prepping for a photo shoot, and I'm so glad when I do, because, like, oh my God, then you have the things to show off, the thing that you want to do. You know, we need those things. People need visuals of like, the badass that you are. So way to go, Sonia, way to also bring people in along on that journey. Lesley Logan 3:25  And then Ainsley Walker wrote, this week's mat practice went great. I caught up with Jen L., Jen M. and Kim. We moved, explored, had fun and geeked out all those. Kim's detail for thinking blew my mind and raised questions that really got me thinking. Thank you. I learned from all of them. I booked in with Gen M to get my nutrition looked at. I'm going. I'm excited and so happy that this is happening. I thought about it for ages, and here she appeared. Head colds suck, but the second one, I've decided to take the day off knowing that I don't have clients coming to my home for three days. Feels like a good break. And I'm still doing mat classes tomorrow, but it takes the pressure off for rest. I'm so happy to be in this group and excited for the next weekend. You know, I actually really love all these wins. Ainsley has like several different ones in there, like different categories. And I love that you're first of all celebrating all of them, like all these different things. But it is a win when we go, you know what, I, I can do this much, but I can't do that much with this head cold. So I'm going to do this much, and I'm gonna take a break off of that much. I love that you found someone you trust to actually do the thing you've been wanting to do with that nutrition plan. I love that you find time to work out with other women, and then you are inspired by the way that they think where that's the cool thing about community. We're all not going to have the same strengths, so we can utilize other people's strengths where we might not see things and then see things from a different perspective. That's the point of this episode, right? You, you guys all sharing your wins allows people to see what are wins in their life. And like, we can like, learn different things. So I just thank you all so much for sending them in. These, really, were wonderful and lovely, and I love reliving them with you. Lesley Logan 5:04  So my loves, my win. Let's get into it. Okay, so I actually have two wins for you, because I didn't celebrate one with you back at the beginning of June, and I want to celebrate it. And then I have another win that, like I hope, is like practical. So big win-wise, the team and I planned a year in advance spring training. We do this annual way for people to experience OPC, and we're constantly trying to find what's a different way. Tell people trust that if they sign up for an online platform, they will actually use it, and that it can get them the results that they want. When all the marketing is telling them they should do Reformer Pilates and they're not realizing that they can do mat work at home and have great results, and yet, maybe they still go do Reformer Pilates, but then, if they only can go once a week, they're actually gonna get the results that they're trying to get from the Reformer right? So every year we try to do this, and I'm not gonna lie, like we had this brilliant idea, we, like, went to bat for it. In January, had a big call about how the marketing plan was gonna go, all these things, and in it actually wasn't really working the way we wanted. And one of the wins is that we actually took the time to do a massive pivot, which is not easy to do, because it means a lot of people having to work again on something, but like, if something's not working, change it right? So we did that, and we had it made us, forced us to, like, reflect, like, what? How do we help people understand that this week of Pilates is actually exactly what they've been asking for, right? Because you have to make sure that it's understandable in their words. And we had the best time. It was so fun. We had so many people sign up. OPC members got to sign up for free. They showed up in the hundreds. We had tons of people from all over the world joining us live for these classes, and we had these Q&A's. And that was also a really amazing time. And that was just great and grand. And we wrapped it up on Pilates Day. And I don't always do something on Pilates Day because, to be honest, like, we provide so much free Pilates content all the time. I don't usually have the have it in me to do something on that day, but we actually got to have a really massive Pilates Day with our OPC members, with these spring training people and just celebrate, like, how amazing Pilates is when a bunch of people join the OPC membership after it and like, whether or not, like, we hit our number goals doesn't really matter, because the win is in that as a team, we acted as a team that could, you know, when we look back at like, what we did, like, we made changes where we needed to to make things happen. And so I don't have the numbers in front of me to share them with you, but like, I'm so proud of our team, I'm so proud of what we did. I'm so proud of the teachers. I'm so proud of the people who signed themselves up for something. It's not easy to do that, and so that's awesome win. The other win, a little more practical, a little smaller, is that, you know, it gets hot in Vegas. It sneaks up on you. It's really only, like, not tolerable, you know, like 90 days of the year. The rest of the time, it's either just nice and warm or it's perfect. So at any rate, we're usually caught off a little, on off guard, and we're traveling and we're busy, and we like, oh, I gotta put that on. We set our EVAC cooler up in the beginning of April, and so even though it's freaking hot on most days when it's under 106 degrees, we can run this EVAC cooler, so we're not paying a fuckton in energy bills. And the house is actually cooler, and it's really awesome, and I'm super obsessed with it. So I'm just so proud of Brad and I after it's our fifth summer in this town, and we, like, nailed it. We worked ahead, we thought about it, and we are not dying at night. And also, I don't know if you remember a win that we had back in the beginning of the year, we got I told Brad, I was like, I cannot do another summer hot. Like, I'm not even having hot flashes, but I'm like, freaking too hot at night, and it's not gonna get better. Like, we all know what's coming. So like, how can we prepare for this? And he got this bed jet thing, and I can actually have cool air on me in the bed. So, like, you still have to have the air on it won't it's not an air conditioner. It's pulling from the air that's outside, but it's actually making it so, like, I'm, like, the perfect temperature as I sleep. I'm getting the best sleep because of it. So you guys, if summer suck for you, like, first of all, make changes to your life so that you can, it can be better. So you get your sleep that you need, and you can stay hydrated, but also mark your calendar for months in advance of the heat where you are, so you can make the changes you need to make before it sneaks up on you. And then it's like, oh my God. Then you're in it, and you're tired. When you're hot and tired, you're bitchy, and it's just not fun. It's not fun. So anyways, those are our big wins. June was, oh my God, the year has been so great. There's a lot going on that's not great, but there's also stuff that's going on that's great. That's why this episode exists. Lesley Logan 9:29  All right, your mantra, I'm capable of balancing ease and effort in my life. I am capable of balancing ease and effort in my life. I am capable of balancing ease and effort in my life. Yes, you are, babe. Yes you are until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 9:45  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 10:27  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 10:33  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 10:37  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 10:43  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 10:48  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell reflect on the inspiring conversation with values-driven changemaker Kate Galli. From standing up for animals to staying grounded in joy, this episode explores what it takes to lead with purpose. Learn how Kate uses her voice, energy, and optimism to drive meaningful change—while still staying connected to community, compassion, and self-care.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Exercises for managing lower back pain in Pilates classes.Kate Galli's journey into plant-based living and how it deepened her purpose.How she transitioned from being an “angry vegan” to a compassionate advocate.The ABC Method's role in fostering mindset shifts and habit change.Why identifying core values is essential for aligning with your goals.Episode References/Links:Ask Iliza Anything Podcast - https://beitpod.com/askilizaeLevate Workout and Q&A - https://lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlistAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniOPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/tourUK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comTaylor Made at Pilates Anytime - https://www.pilatesanytime.com (use code: LLogan for a 30-day trial)Submit your questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsKate Galli's Website - strongbodygreenplanet.comHealthification Podcast - https://beitpod.com/healthificationEp. 528: Stephanie O'Dea - https://beitpod.com/stephanieodea If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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And then you just said the word compassion, which is more in line with what we want. Compassion still includes the word passion.Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the empathetic convo I had with Kate Galli in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now and go back and listen or listen to this and go listen to that. It's kind of fun how the episodes work like that. If you're in the OPC app, you can easily see them and pick and choose. If you're in an Apple app, it kind of serves you in whatever order you're at so there you go. But it's quite fun. We'll get into her thing. I actually, because of her, have been putting tofu in my breakfast. So, yeah. Brad Crowell 1:29  Oh, love that.Lesley Logan 1:30  This is a woman. This is the person who said. So today is June 26th 2025 and it's National Handshake Day. So finally, a day that's not a fucking nightmare. If you listened to last week, this should be more uplifting. National Handshake Day. This is they always start with the thing, and it drives me crazy. Brad Crowell 1:48  Every year on this day. Lesley Logan 1:49  On this day, it's just like, it's like chatting before it happened. National Handshake Day is celebrated on the last Thursday of June each year, falling on June 26th this year. And yep, yep, we covered that already, and we're glad that this common greeting is getting a place in the spotlight after all the year that it has been around. Not only is the handshake the most universally recognized form of greeting, but it also has come to mean different things in different cultures, which is why learning more about it will come in handy. Pun intended. Throughout history and across different cultural contexts, the handshake is in practice, an expression of peace or goodwill, and is almost like a common language that binds us together the world over. That's a way, that's a weird sentence. It's no wonder, then, that we want to make a big deal about this innocuous gesture. Sociologically, the handshake has come to be a symbol of things hidden below the surface, as you can tell a lot about the person the way they shake. Brad Crowell 2:45  By the handshake. Lesley Logan 2:46  Yes, perhaps for this reason, secret handshakes have also become popular, giving people a sense of belonging to a particular group. However you view the handshake, one has to admit that it deserves its own day. Brad Crowell 2:58  It sure does. Lesley Logan 2:59  Just owing the sheer frequency of its use in our daily lives.Brad Crowell 3:02  Yep, yep. Sans Covid, when no one did any handshakes ever it was the wave.Lesley Logan 3:07  Well, now, and now everyone does fist bumps or like people don't shake hands, like there's like the germaphobes will never shake hands. Brad Crowell 3:11  Yeah, never again. Lesley Logan 3:13  I will be honest. I almost rather go for a hug than a handshake, like, I just feel kind of weird about it, mostly with women, obviously. Second, I don't really. Brad Crowell 3:25  Hi, friend, handshake.Lesley Logan 3:26  Hi friend. Also, I gotta be honest, I fucking hate a dead fish handshake. And I also do not give me the bunny hand, like I'm gonna kiss it, you know, some, some girls, yeah, like they give you their hand. They give you their hand like this, and then you're supposed to like, like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do with that. I'm supposed to say, What am I supposed to do? Brad Crowell 3:32  She's supposed to take it underneath and kiss their hand.Lesley Logan 3:50  Yeah, but, but you're giving it to me. I'm not gonna kiss your hand. Brad Crowell 3:54  What? Why not?Lesley Logan 3:55  No, no, not even yours. So I get but I was listening to Iliza Shlesinger's podcast, and she was talking about how, like, hand, she obviously, because she's got kids, and so she's always sick. She's like, comedy shows. She's meeting people, and so, like, they have rules about no hugging, no handshakes. And she's like, we used to shake hands to make sure the other person doesn't have a gun in it. So like. Brad Crowell 4:14  We did? Lesley Logan 4:14  That's what she said and she's like, such a historian.Brad Crowell 4:17  Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Lesley Logan 4:17  You know. Brad Crowell 4:18  I know what she's talking about. Lesley Logan 4:19  Tell me. Brad Crowell 4:21  In the Wild West, it was like the under the table situation. And also you specifically used you shook with the right hand only because I think the left hand was used to wipe your ass.Lesley Logan 4:33  Right because it also assumed that most people are right-handed, and then you use right hand for your gun. Brad Crowell 4:37  Yeah, exactly. So I'm pretty sure there's some history, some historicity to that claim. Lesley Logan 4:44  Yeah, yeah. Brad Crowell 4:47  But anyway, luck us, definitely.Lesley Logan 4:49  Everyone's left hand was just covered in shit back then.Brad Crowell 4:50  I think that's not quite the same thing, but yeah.Lesley Logan 4:58  Oh my God, thank God we don't live back then, guys, it must have smelled like shit. Like, just whenever I think about whenever I, like, look at, like a castle situation, I'm like, this place reeked of shit. There's no way.Brad Crowell 5:11  Also probably like, ice, fricking cold. Lesley Logan 5:13  Oh, well, that and when we were at the one castle in Scotland, like everyone, including kids, was given like, liquor every day because it helped kill the germs that were like in the water and the food or something like that. So and most people were like, just not enough water for the peasants. They just drank anyway. Brad Crowell 5:27  The king had a shit hole in his throne. Lesley Logan 5:30  Yes, he did have a shit hole in his throne. That's why they call it a throne. And in front of people, they would just get up and pick up their skirt and sit down on the toilet and take a pee or take a poop or whatever. But, you know, anyways, and then, besides the gangrene that was going on. Back to this. Brad Crowell 5:43  Weird. Lesley Logan 5:45  I will just say I would love to shake your hand, but you got to shake it back. And also don't squee. The men who squeeze really hard to make sure they I know that they're strong. It's like, well, now you're, what I know you are as a dick. That's what I know. Like, there's, it's a, there's a there's a talent to the fucking handshake.Brad Crowell 6:01  There's a lot you can know. All right, let's move on. So upcoming event. Lesley Logan 6:05  We are doing a lot very, very soon. Brad Crowell 6:07  All right, stick with us here right now. It is June 26th so in just a few weeks, July 9th, we're gonna be hosting an eLevate workout, a Q&A workshop. So if you don't know what eLevate is, no biggie, that is Lesley's mentorship program for Pilates teachers. Okay? It's a 9-month program. It's an amazing way for you to get to the method more across all the different pieces of equipment, and it will 100% change your confidence. I mean, like night and day, dramatic difference, and it's perfect if you're a new teacher or you've been teaching for a really long time. This is a great program. We've been doing it for years, and it's probably our favorite program run. We're going to be doing just a Q&A and hang so a workout and you could ask questions. July 9th.Lesley Logan 6:49  Alumni will be there and they'll answer your questions, and they're great. They do have the kindest of hearts like, that's why they come.Brad Crowell 6:54  So come, go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist elevate waitlist.Lesley Logan 6:59  And that's live online, and then also live online on July 17th is Agency mini Mini.  Brad Crowell 7:03  That's right. Lesley Logan 7:03  Agency Mini number 11. Brad Crowell 7:05  Profitable Pilates is back. Lesley Logan 7:08  And it's prfit.biz/mini and it is a three day business coaching workshop. There will be two events that have live times on them, but you can off, obviously, watch replays wherever you are. It's really, really great. Look, the summer is slow for most Pilates instructors, except for like, the family travels, but it's a perfect time to work on your business and get your questions answered so that the last half of the year can be what you want it to be to set you up for next year. So prfit.biz/mini to get on the waitlist, and that way you'll get the early bird pricing. And then in person, we're coming out.Brad Crowell 7:42  OPC Summer Tour kicks off July 25th in Phoenix. We're gonna do a massive rectangle. We're gonna do Phoenix to San Diego, all the way up the coast of Vancouver, that's right into Canada. Then we're gonna cut across through Calgary, and then back down to Vegas. From there, I don't know. I think it's like close to 5000 miles, I think.Lesley Logan 8:01  You are planning this Hon. I literally, I was, people are like, where is this at? I'm like, I don't even know. Brad Crowell 8:01  We have 19 stops. Lesley Logan 8:01  Oh, whoa, 19. Brad Crowell 8:01  Yeah. Lesley Logan 8:02  This is almost as big as winter tour. Brad Crowell 8:07  It's, it is almost as big as winter tour.Lesley Logan 8:14  But a little shorter, thank goodness, because I don't think I could do two full month long tours, but this is good.Brad Crowell 8:20  This was a little over three weeks. So. Lesley Logan 8:23  Yeah. Brad Crowell 8:23  It's gonna be amazing. Lesley Logan 8:23  And we're going to Canada. Brad Crowell 8:23  We're going into Canada. I'm excited first time for us to tour up into Canada.Lesley Logan 8:27  Get the dogs paperwork ready to go into Canada and get them back in the States.Brad Crowell 8:34  Yep, yep. And then in September, we're getting on a plane.Lesley Logan 8:38  Oh, did we tell them where to go? opc.me/tour Brad Crowell 8:40  Go to opc.me/tour opc.me/tourLesley Logan 8:45  And then in September, we're getting on a plane. We're going to the UK. We have two cities in the UK. It's our Mullet Tour. And mullet means business in the front, Pilates in the back. And so we'll have a business workshop each day, and then Pilates workshops each day. Don't worry, there's more Pilates workshops and business workshops, but U.K., we're trying. We got to help you out.Brad Crowell 9:04  2/3 Pilates 1/3 biz don't worry that'll work.Lesley Logan 9:08  And there's a workout so you can get a 2-day pass at Leeds. There's only three spots left at the time we're recording this. Don't know what that means when it drops in your ears. Brad Crowell 9:15  That's true. Lesley Logan 9:16  And then Essex also space super limited. But we did open up day passes so you can buy a Tuesday-only pass or Wednesday-only pass. Brad Crowell 9:22  Yeah, or you can get both. Lesley Logan 9:23  Or you can get both, you'll save if you buy both. So opc.me/ukBrad Crowell 9:28  opc.me/uk and then finally inLesley Logan 9:31  We're going to Cambodia in October.Brad Crowell 9:32  October we're heading back across the world, and we want you to come join us. It is obviously our favorite place to be. Lesley Logan 9:39  We're gonna go to Scotland, come home, go to Chicago, go to Cambodia. Brad Crowell 9:46  Oh, yeah, we're going to P.O.T in Chicago. Lesley Logan 9:46  Yeah, we are, we are. We'll tell them about that later. They haven't announced that yet, so until they announced that, we can't announce it. Cat's out the bag.Brad Crowell 9:53  Oops, anyway, yeah, come with us. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com to come hang. I mean, I've already been on a bunch of conversations with people talking about it. I know people are worried about travel right now, international travel, especially with like, the perception of Americans around the world due to our government making stupid decisions. Lesley Logan 10:17  We actually have been treated very well. Most people are worried for us. So they're not, like, they're they're mostly worried, and also, like, we've already gone there and come back during this administration and have had not any problems, so we don't anticipate any problems. So we also did it during March of 2020, and were, the threat of getting in the country, so it was real, and we walked right in.Brad Crowell 10:38  Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, the conversations we've been having with people haven't been that. The conversations have been more about like, are, you know, is it going to be problems for Americans traveling? Honestly, I still think it just comes down to you being cool or being an asshole. If you're an asshole, you're gonna have problems. Lesley Logan 10:56  But also, if you're an asshole, you're not listening to this podcast. Brad Crowell 10:58  Yeah, that's probably true. Lesley Logan 10:59  Pretty true. Brad Crowell 11:00  Send this to an asshole. Send this episode.Lesley Logan 11:00  I don't, don't. I was actually even worried, personally, was worried about our Canada tour stops. I thought, will they sell? We have to spend so much money on lawyers to make sure we can do everything appropriately. AndBrad Crowell 11:07  We're almost already sold out in Vancouver.Lesley Logan 11:17  Vancouver is almost sold out. So like, I will say, I actually think most people understand that we, the majority of us, are not happy with how things are going, and we are not these people. So just, just know you'll be.Brad Crowell 11:32  Yeah, but it's also like the experiences that we've had, during tumultuous times, have not prohibited us from traveling, right? So, you know, we would encourage you to, you know, get on a call with me if you have any questions about it, worried about it, come join us. Cambodia is going to be epic trust me. Lesley Logan 11:53  Oh, yeah, it's so beautiful. And also, when we're there, because we've gone so many times during administrations like this. It is like the most you don't, you're so relaxed, you don't really even you don't the news can't even really get to you, because even if it does, you hear chickens, and then you hear the birds and the parrots, and you're sweating and the motos, and you're like, I'm so far from that, like that there's nothing I can do about that while I'm here. Brad Crowell 12:17  It's called a retreat for a reason. Lesley Logan 12:21  It's really helpful. It's really helpful for your heart. I mean, I always I'm so relaxed. Brad Crowell 12:28  I'm already getting warm fuzzy feeling. Lesley Logan 12:30  I know. So come, crownestretreats.com to snag your spot.Brad Crowell 12:34  All right. And we did have an audience question this week. Thank you for sending this in. We had, I don't know how to say this, um, ayeletregev6703 ayeletregev6703 on YouTube asks, hi, during a class. Lesley Logan 12:50  Hi.Brad Crowell 12:51  Hi, during a class, what kind of exercise would you offer to someone who can't do the teaser due to lower back issues? Well, great question. Thank you for asking. Lesley Logan 13:01  Yeah. So first of all, if, first of all, the way I teach Pilates is that every exercise is going to be accessible to people at some point when they're ready. So my teacher, Jay Grimes, always said, you want to bring people up to an exercise, don't bring exercise down to a body, right? So if someone has lower back issues and they can't do the teaser, I actually wouldn't modify the teaser necessarily for them. I would have them repeat an exercise that was safe for their back, that would build up their strength, their stamina and their connections. Brad Crowell 13:24  They should just quit. Lesley Logan 13:30  Shut up, and that way, first of all, they can keep moving. And then second, it would be figuring out, like, is this lower back issue permanent? Is this like a chronic issue? They're never it's never going to go away. Is it what it is? Brad Crowell 13:50  Surgery kind of thing. Lesley Logan 13:46  And so then it's like, should they, should they even be doing flexion at all? Should they, can they do teaser with their feet on the wall? Should they just always do something else, or is it just that they are not, they're of a tight back and just not ready for it, yet? Because then we can roll like a ball into teaser, roll like a ball in a teaser, right? And that's a great way of doing it. So what I think is really important is there isn't one way to answer this question, because I don't know who we're talking about.Brad Crowell 14:09  It's true. So that's a little tough, but I do think you know the whole idea, as a non-Pilates teacher here, the whole idea of Pilates is that it's a system, right? And what I know from sitting on the sidelines and watching the eLevators come through our house, literally, our house, and work things out, is that that if they're if they can't do teaser, because they're just not there yet, that's okay. It's totally okay. They don't need to do teaser, right? It's not like, you know, teaser, to me, is like handstand in yoga, you know, it's not necessarily like changing your world. It's part of a system. It's one of the poses that you yeah, sure you want to get to it eventually. But if you, you know, if you can't do teaser, it doesn't mean you can't do Pilates, right? So, you know, if you take that approach to it, you can, you as a teacher, can help them get to that pose over time, and you can help them get to that if that's their goal, that's fine, you know. But there might be other things that you want to take them to, first because of their lower back issues,Lesley Logan 15:18  Yeah. And I, first of all, well said, babe. So many people are like, Go, Brad, but, but I think, like, you know, here's the thing, clients come to a class and you specifically about a class. And so everyone thinks that, oh, everyone in the class is doing the exact same thing. Like I was talking to someone in eLevate, they're like, oh, but I need everyone to, like, do it at the same time, because it looks really good. And I was like, uhm.Brad Crowell 15:42  We could skip all that. Lesley Logan 15:43  We don't care what it looks like as a beauty, a form of beauty, I care, are they connected? Brad Crowell 15:48  Right. We're not synchronized swimming here. Lesley Logan 15:50  Yeah. And so if that's the way you're teaching your classes, some people will like that. But to be completely honest, a lot of people are not going to actually get the benefits of Pilates in that fashion, in that form. So it's really important. Brad Crowell 16:02  The 1980s are calling. They want their synchronized workouts back.Lesley Logan 16:05  Yeah, so what I, so I would, this is how I always started every class, not every exercise is going to be for you. So when in doubt, leave it out. It's actually brave and courageous to replace what you can't do yet with something that you can, something that you did that was challenging, right? And if you need specific assistance with an exercise, we can talk about it. We can give options at the end of class that you can use. And so with this person with lower back issues, maybe they need to take a private or stay after class one day to figure out what is their teaser. So maybe it is a modified teaser, but maybe it's actually double straight leg stretch, or maybe it's that they do swimming instead, right? What is it that they do? And then that way they are empowered to be autonomous and independent. And I promise you, it is going you will survive people doing different things at the same time, because they're gonna feel so good, and they're gonna come and go. That was the best class, and it's gonna make you love what you're doing, because now you're actually affecting real change in them, and not just like, well, let's just bend their knees and now they can do it, right? Like, that's, like, that's a Rachel Taylor Siegel, highly recommend everybody watches Taylor Made on Pilates Anytime you can use LLogan for a 30-day trial. It's in the Legacy Project. And what I learned from Rachel Taylor Siegel, she said, let's talk about modifications. She said modifications are like borrowing money from the bank. Some loans have higher interest rates than other loans, right? So if you get an SBA loan, you're looking at a couple percent, like real low, and so it's really easy to pay that loan off over time. In fact, that loan allows your business to grow, and so that kind of a loan is like going not just accelerate you, but just strengthen your business, gonna allow you to create a really good foundation, right? Versus a payday loan, those like 40% interest loans, or 30% interest loans, or the credit cards, the ones we get in the mail with our amazing credit score. It's like, why would I sign up for this 35% credit card? Are you crazy?Brad Crowell 18:09  Yeah, I did get one for for 29.99 Yeah, or 30. It was like, it was like shocking. Lesley Logan 18:19  That's it when I was in college and college when I had no credit. Brad Crowell 18:22  I never saw one that high ever. Lesley Logan 18:22  I guess that's true. I think it was like 18%. Brad Crowell 18:23  Yeah, they were like, 20% everyone's like, oh my God, they're stealing from you. Now they're, now they're like, 30 and it's normal. I'm like, holy cow, bananas. Lesley Logan 18:30  Yeah, you'll know, yes, so, but that, so just take that bananas and then think about that as a modification for an exercise. So now we're stealing from them. Now we're actually not providing them with the ability to ever not need that modification. In fact, they will have to keep just like those payday loans.Brad Crowell 18:45  Ever not, never, not. So they will always need the modification. Lesley Logan 18:45  Yeah, just like, well, if you let me finish my sentence, it was going to be just like when you do the payday loans once, what I've heard, what I've understood, is why they're so bad is that once you need them, you automatically need the next one and the next one, because now you're like, stuck, you're stuck and you're in debt. So my dear, thank you for this question. I hope it gave you something to think about. If you're an OPC member and you have a lower back issue, you can actually film yourself doing an exercise. You, actually, it could be any issue, but you can film yourself doing an exercise, and I can give you feedback on it. We don't answer client questions in OPC because it's all about you. So there's that. But if you guys have questions, go to beitpod.com/questions to send in your win or your questions, we'll answer them here, and we'll shout your wins out on Friday. beitpod.com/questions. Brad Crowell 19:30  Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into that convo with Kate Galli. Brad Crowell 19:38  Okay, let's talk about Kate Galli. Kate is a health coach, author and podcast host who's passionate, who is passionate about helping vegans and plant-based curious people live the with strength, confidence and joy. After years of working in both fitness and in the mindset space, Kate now helps others create meaningful lifestyle changes by aligning their health goals with their values. She's the creator of Strong Body, Green Planet, and host of the Healthification Podcast, where she shares strategies for powerful, compassionate living through her signature ABC method. Kate focuses on building habits that not only feel good, but also do good for the mind, for the body and for the planet.Lesley Logan 20:24  Okay, I thought she was so cool, because, first of all, a lot of what she is talking about with her journey of being a vegan, and then where she's at now is a lot of be it till you see it in like being vegan-curious or plant-based curious. I think a lot of us could lend ourselves to at least, if you're not going to go full vegan considering, like, what changes you can make for the planet. I think we all have to be considerate of that. You'll also be considerate of your body and what you're allergic to and all those things. So don't at me. I can't eat that because I got this allergy. I see you okay. In fact, Kate sees you because she's not an angry vegan anymore.Brad Crowell 20:59  Yeah, that's the thing that was like, I, actually, I'm not gonna lie, like I was listening to it. I was like, okay, you know, I'm in and then she shared her story, and I was like, wow, you know. And if you, if you, if you haven't gone back and listened to the episode, it is gut-wrenching and powerful. And she says it quickly, relatively quickly, but it's worth a listen. So go back and take a listen to Kate's story. Lesley Logan 21:25  I think the cadence of this episode coming out after Stephanie O'Dea's slow living episode is really important, because there's a couple things like, that, I'm like, I'm thinking about with Kate that kind of can go back to Stephanie. First of all, you cannot shame or judge yourself into a goal, right? And so and and, and. Brad Crowell 21:46  Nor can you shame others into a goal.Lesley Logan 21:49  Correct. And Kate said, we get this drive and this focus and this purpose, we just go and go and go. And she's like, it's effective until it isn't. And that's the same thing that, like Stephanie was saying, like, we we, like, want to go, like, so fast, but like, things will happen in time. And so she transformed in this, like, angry vegan. And then she became more compassionate, because she realized her approach was actually not effective in convincing anyone. In fact. Brad Crowell 22:13  Also, she was like, fried emotionally, like, so fried. She was like, I can't, I can't even be the angry, you know, like, person that I was anymore. I just can't do it.Lesley Logan 22:24  Yeah, I think, like, how many of us have been, like, so passionate about something that we get angry? I know I do. I know I do not talk politics with some of my family members because I get so angry that they cannot see the perspective that I see it from. I just can't I, like, literally, I'm just like, I'm losing, I'm missing out on that part of my life, because I need to figure this out for myself, because I cannot be compassionate in this moment. But you know what? I'm giving myself permission, that's okay. But I think it's like, she, she really, where she was able to change to is being a lot more compassionate, and then that allowed her to be more helpful in helping other people see ways that they can become vegan, or ways that they can make things a little bit more plant-based, or be or just change the way that they want to work out so that they're now it's almost like, it's like, you can't, you don't get, you can't get bunny like, bees about honey, like that kind of a thing? Brad Crowell 23:22  Yeah, you did mention that on the interview, and then you apologized for all the vegans out there who aren't necessarily in a honey. Lesley Logan 23:29  I know. Brad Crowell 23:30  I had a good laugh about that. Lesley Logan 23:32  Well, some are not okay with honey.Brad Crowell 23:35  Yes, no, it's you're, you're not wrong, but I just thought it was a really funny analogy in the moment. But you're right. You know, you get more bees with honey than you do, you know, without. So, you know, it's the kind of like the kill them with kindness, kind of a yeah approach. And I think.Lesley Logan 23:51  I really hated that growing up, my mom always, like, kill with kindness. And I'm like, that's not working.Brad Crowell 23:59  But, but, you know, she talked about the frustration with the relationship with her father, and how, like she was able to learn from her mom, you know, and how her mom's approach shifted her own approach, you know, out and about in the world.Lesley Logan 24:22  Yeah. And I also want to say, because she said, whatever we care about yelling at people about how wrong they are is never going to get them to want to join us. I just want you to know that, like I still believe you should protest, because it's not about convincing the person driving by. It's about convincing the politicians we're protesting again. So I just want to say protests matter, but. Brad Crowell 24:39  Yeah, they do. Lesley Logan 24:40  But if your neighbor isn't seeing how the way that they're voting or the way that they're eating or the way that they're you know, mowing their lawn in the middle of the night is affecting things that you care about. Yelling at them isn't going to get them to stop. You do have to figure out. You have to understand a little bit more about why they think the way they think, or why they do the way they do, so you can actually have a compassionate conversation that allows them to see how what you're trying to offer them is going to help the same goal that they have.Brad Crowell 25:08  That's actually really interesting. And I wonder about the etymology of these words here now, because I was thinking passion doesn't necessarily equal anger, even though it's associated with with high energy. And then you just said the word compassion, which is more in line with what we want. Compassion still includes the word passion. So, you know. Lesley Logan 25:29  Do you ever want to take, like, an etymology class? I want to take a handwriting class. They don't teach kids anymore, but I want to learn, and I want to take an etymology class.Brad Crowell 25:40  Well, so, but you know, like you can still be passionate without being angry. You can be compassionate and have passion, you know. So I think, you know, shifting her approach has sounds to me like a it's made her more effective, and it sounds like just a happier person.Lesley Logan 26:01  Yeah, she she is so lovely. Brad Crowell 26:04  So, good for her. Lesley Logan 26:04  And I will say, like, ever since I've talked with her, I've been really more thoughtful about, what are we eating? Do we need that? How? How do I get 150 grams of protein a day if I'm not having chicken? What does that look like? You know. Brad Crowell 26:18  I love that you were digging into how to get protein. You were talking about on the episode of like. Lesley Logan 26:24  Yeah, I asked her. I was like, I need. Brad Crowell 26:26  Like, what do I do? What's a side? What's a dessert? What's it? What? How do we do this? You know? And she, she did make the parallel between, you know, like, let's say there's like, a muscle dude at the gym, and if he decides to go plant-based, switching from like, steaks to, you know, she said he's got to be eating something comparable in, you know, that's going to fill him up, or he will just lose weight. You know, there's no question about that, but there are ways to do it, and that's what kind of, that's when the conversation really went down that rabit hole in a good way. Lesley Logan 26:26  Many, many bodybuilders who are plant-based like. Brad Crowell 26:26  I mean, Eddie. Our friend Eddie is like, six-three and was, like, a football player in the, you know, he's.Lesley Logan 26:37  Yeah, I think he's like a be it till you see it. You have to, like. Brad Crowell 27:09  In the military, guy's a beast. You know, he was a vegan for, I don't know, I think seven or eight years, like, solid. But he would eat like, half a freaking lasagna a night, you know,Lesley Logan 27:20  Right. Like, you have to get calories Well, and that's all kinds of calories, but I think it's just being intentional. And I think what I again, why I wanted to have her on, is it's a be it till you see it approach, like she has those baby steps, which allows you to, kind of, like, figure it out.Brad Crowell 27:35  Well, when she was talking about the ABC method, I thought it was pretty clever. She said, she, you know, when she was going through this personal transformation, she came up with this method that helped her prioritize her happiness and find a more effective way to pursue her purpose, more effective meaning people would listen. And she said, moving from angry, which was ineffective, to compassionate, which is effective. Her method is called the ABC method, and so A stands for awareness, B stands for brainstorm, and C stands for commitment. So she's, awareness, she's recognizing the negative trajectory of continuing down her current path. B, she's brainstorming, identifying ways to stop the habits that she used to do. And specifically she was talking about posting on Instagram, like posting angry stories, setting herself up to be attacked, even though she believes very strong, strongly in these things, you know. But and then she shifted, and she said, hmm, I wonder if, instead of sharing all the negative stories, I could share positive stories and see how that would have an impact. Right? So she began sharing happy stories and making vegan recipes, sharing vegan recipes that actually taste amazing to you know, like present an option that, instead of creating shame and like frustration, trying to guilt people into, you know, whatever, instead it's like, hey, did you know that it can actually be amazing? Did you know that it can taste awesome? You know? And so she started sharing recipes, and she said her third step is commitment, making a public commitment to the new approach, you know, drawing a line in the sand and saying, hey, I'm making this decision. So good for her. I love that ABC method. You know, I thought that was I thought it was clever. I thought it was a great way to, like, actually create a line in the sand of your life and be like, I've made this decision to change this thing. Lesley Logan 29:41  I think it can be used for so many things. Her ABC method, it's so you can just, it's just great. And it's also part of, like, how we learn, just, it's from the mindset training that I did it's very aligned with, like, how people's mindsets can be changed. Loved it. Loved it all.Brad Crowell 29:57  Awesome. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into those Be It Action Items. Brad Crowell 30:03  Welcome back. We're gonna get into these Be It Action Items with Kate Galli. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Kate? She said, if you want to make it easy to incorporate plant-based proteins into your meals, she shares she's got a 5s strategy, okay? She describes it as a way of setting it into your meals. Here are the five S's, star, scatter over, stir through, side and source. What does this mean? Star means plant-based protein is the main component of the meal, meaning lentils in a curry, or marinated tofu. So you've got your star ingredient, effectively, that's what the star means. Scattering over by adding plant-based protein sources such as hemp seeds or pumpkin seeds over your regular meal. So once you've got your meal, you can put something on top of it, and that also adds more protein. You can stir it through mixing plant-based protein, plant-based protein powder, say that five times fast, into a meal or a drink. I mean, this is pretty straightforward. Think about like a smoothie in the morning or soup or cereal. Lesley Logan 31:13  I even, even I put protein in my coffee because I'm trying to get so much protein in, I put it in my coffee with my creatine and my fiber, guys, because, you know, like, that's just a hard thing to get to.Brad Crowell 31:26  And the collagen.Lesley Logan 31:27  Yeah, like, I put it all in there, and it's in this my tasty coffee. And it's actually gotten me to stop going out to get coffee, because they won't have what I need to put in it. And I got to put all this in it. So.Brad Crowell 31:33  That's true. You could also have it as a side, having a portion of a plant-based protein on your side, such as edamame or crispy chickpeas. And I know you're a huge fan of crispy chickpeas. We literally got some after this interview, ourselves. Lesley Logan 31:50  I'm obsessed with crispy chick. I wonder how we can make it ourselves. I'm sure we could just do an air fryer. It is, guys, 50 chickpeas is like 10 grams of protein or something like that. Maybe it's only six, but I think it's 10. At any rate, it's like, two handfuls and it you're fuller than if you had snacked on some chips, right? And I got.Brad Crowell 32:08  It's also not like, it's not bad for you, like, you know, deep fried chips or something. Lesley Logan 32:12  And it's good for the environment. I can't have potatoes, so I have been, I like, have been like, over here, what? I just want to snack on a little munchie, and I can have those. Brad Crowell 32:22  Crispy chickpeas, all right. And then source. Finally, the last S is source, using sauces made with protein-rich ingredients, which could include, like self silken tofu, or you could put edamame inside the guacamole. Lesley Logan 32:36  Yes, where is this town that we used to get that guacamole that had edamame? Brad Crowell 32:40  Oh, it was, it was they have one. Lesley Logan 32:43  Oh, True Food. Brad Crowell 32:44  True Food. Lesley Logan 32:44  True Food. Yeah, and then they mess with those chips. So annoying. But the edamame with the. with the guac with edamame is there, and it's great.Brad Crowell 32:54  Pretty tasty. I dig it. But yeah, what about you? Lesley Logan 32:56  Okay, she said, if you haven't, if you haven't figured out what your personal values are, you need to because you gotta elicit them. She said, your values are the emotional states you're naturally drawn to, like love, freedom, truth or integrity. And so when you are planning your day or making decisions like, your values are these filters for those things and you need to align them with your most important goal or vision, and so even more importantly, align them with your daily actions. We actually talk about values a lot in Agency. Talk about it a lot in our business, coaching retreats and things like that. And so I love this. In fact, I just led a values webinar for Agency members. It'll be in the curriculum so you can figure out what are your values? Because it's like, well, what are, what are, how do you choose them? Like, I have to, you know, have to have names for it. What is it? So you can, Agency members can check that out. But I love this Be It Action Item. Elicit your own personal values if you haven't yet. Kate Galli.Brad Crowell 33:49  You know, it's funny. I thought it was interesting to compare this to a business, right? We talk about this for business owners, you got to know your mission, vision, values. I never thought about it once about my personal values. Lesley Logan 34:04  What? Brad Crowell 34:05  Yeah. Lesley Logan 34:06  Brad? Really? Brad Crowell 34:08  Well, in the same way I've never been like, here are my five values that matter the most to Brad. You know, I always think about it through the lens of my company first. So I thought it was interesting. Lesley Logan 34:20  We gotta do that. You gotta, you gotta do the exercise.Brad Crowell 34:24  We gotta do the exercise, y'all, I gotta sprinkle in some values. I'm gonna, I'm sourcing them now, but I'm gonna sprinkle them in, scattering them over.Lesley Logan 34:31  It won't be that complicated, because, I mean, we have different values, but my values were how the business's values came about. They were like, they're not exactly the same, but it's like another word for it that would be more business-like than what my personal values are, but I think that you get to, you get to do the exercise. Keep us posted on your Be It Action Item, babe.Brad Crowell 34:54  Sounds like a plan. Lesley Logan 34:54  I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 34:54  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 34:54  Thank you so much for being here. How are you going to use these tips in your life? We want to know, we want to know what you what your takeaways are. We want you to send them in to the beitpod.com/questions, share this episode with a friend who needs to hear it. That's how this podcast continues to grow, so we can continue getting amazing guests. Brad Crowell 35:15  And if you haven't yet, leave us a five star review, please. Lesley Logan 35:16  Yes, that is like a gift. Brad Crowell 35:16  It's a huge gift.Lesley Logan 35:19  I know it's hard to do. I know it's hard to figure out where to do it, but if you could just do it, because here's the deal, we want to get some amazing guests, but we actually have to tell them where our podcast stands. Because people are busy, and they want to know if it's even worth their time. And so every download matters, but also.Brad Crowell 35:36  And every time you share the episodes, it matters every time, every time. We're so grateful. So thanks for doing all that. Lesley Logan 35:42  Yeah, all right, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 35:44  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 35:46  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Lesley Logan talks with Kate Galli about the power of aligning your daily habits with your values to build a body and life you love. They explore Kate's evolution from being an angry vegan to a joyful, aligned advocate, her mindset around habit formation, and why joy and self-compassion are the real game changers. This episode will inspire you to show up for yourself with clarity and intention.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:What led Kate to shift from angry vegan activism to compassionate advocacy.How grief and reflection helped her redefine her purpose and message.Why aligning habits with values creates sustainable change.The steps of Kate's ABC method and how she uses it in real life.Ways to overcome all-or-nothing thinking and perfectionist patterns.How sharing joy and delicious food made her message more effective.Episode References/Links:Kate Galli's Website - strongbodygreenplanet.comKate Galli's Facebook - www.facebook.com/StrongBodyGreenPlanetKate Galli's Instagram - www.instagram.com/strongbodygreenplanetKate Galli's Twitter - twitter.com/strongbodygreenKate Galli's LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/kate-galli-0873332aPlant Positive Journal - beitpod.com/plantpositiveHealthification Podcast - beitpod.com/healthificationWhat The Health Documentary - www.whatthehealthfilm.comGuest Bio:Health Coach, Author and Podcast host Kate Galli. Kate is qualified as a Master Personal Trainer, Life Coach, NLP Practitioner and has also completed the eCornell Plant Based Nutrition Certificate program. Kate first got into fitness as a way to transform her body and confidence. She has spent 18 years helping 1,000's of individuals sculpt a body and life they love. On an actionable level Kate's intention is: to help you create the Mindset that makes your prioritising your health and happiness simple and sustainable. Via the Healthification podcast Kate has interviewed hundreds of passionate and compassionate authors, athletes, doctors and entrepreneurs. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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And two things happened, not instantly, but over the course of the next year, I realized that the sadness at losing my mum is so overwhelming, I legitimately have no more energy to be angry and sad and frustrated at all the non-vegans in the world. I just don't have emotional capacity for that because I've lost my number one person.Lesley Logan 0:33  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:16  Hi, Be It babe. Okay, this, today's episode is really fun. I, first of all, like, this woman is just such like an angel when she just talks. She was just like, you just want to listen to her stories. But also I was really excited to chat with her, because I knew we were talking about aligning your purpose and your beliefs. And I was like, okay, yes, you guys all need that. And then her expertise happens to be in a different topic, and I got so interested, based on what she was saying, that I had to go into what she also does, which is not normally what we do here on the show. We don't normally talk about being a plant-based eater, but, actually, don't turn this off, I promise you, I promise you, as someone who is a vegan, who eats meat, I am as, you know, consciously and environmentally sound as I can be with that, I've been really interested in changing that over and so meeting someone like Kate has truly opened my eyes into something more positive and happy. And so whether or not you want that for yourself, I want you to listen to this interview, because her approach to how she wants to change the world had to change at some point in her life. And I think we all have been in a place where we believe something, and someone else we know does not believe that, and it just becomes this friction around us, and we get frustrated because we want things to happen faster. We want them to believe in it sooner. We want them to change everything sooner. And the truth is that there that's not necessarily the way that you get people to be on board with your journey. And so I really, really, I think you can insert any of the words she's using for your beliefs and see how you can use her experience to support you in your journey and what you want to do. Also, also, her Be It Action Items are amazing. She hit all that. She hit the bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted. So she's a winner. Here is Kate Galli. Lesley Logan 3:14  All right, Be It babe, I have a really fun guest. I was looking up all the things they're doing. I really enjoyed how they described a business from hell and still prioritizing themselves. I really, I was like, I was like, oh, someone can do that, then that is a Be It Till You See It podcast guest, if I ever saw one. So Kate Galli, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Kate Galli 3:35  Lesley, it is my pleasure to be here. Thank you so much. I am a health coach, author and fellow podcaster, and I help vegans and the plant-based curious to any degree prioritize their health and happiness and thrive with plants. Their happiness component is really core to what I do, and how I do that is I help people create the mindset that makes prioritizing their most effective, eating and exercising action, simple, sustainable and fun. Lesley, I will say everything I speak to is mindset-related, so it is applicable to anyone with a health goal, no matter what way you choose to eat. So everyone's welcome. A little bit about, I guess, how I got into what I do as a health coach. You know, I was a debilitatingly shy teenager, and I joined the gym and started lifting weights specifically to, yes, transform my body also to transform my confidence, and that is one of the things that I love most about what I do now, whether it's in the gym with clients or coaching clients online, is to see this transformation so far as confidence and the ability to back yourself. That is something that I am incredibly passionate about seeing in others.Lesley Logan 4:59  Yeah, I, I am, I agree. I think, like, sometimes people think, like, when you say confidence and working out, it's often like, it is the look of it, the aesthetics of it. But as someone who lives at the gym as well, the when I when I pick up a heavier set of dumbbells, like, there's something really powerful about that and like, so it's actually like, I think hopefully becoming more and more normalized that, like, when you can give yourself a pull up, even if it's assisted, when you can, like, when you can actually do 10 push ups, when before you had to take breaks, like you are building confidence in yourself, because you're showing yourself how much stronger you are. And I think, like we, you know, the strength of, the strength that we all have is something we can all work on, and we have to work on all the time. And so I love that you also highlighted happiness. And I think that's really important. Because I do think that when people go on any kind of health journey, at some point they start doing it as a form of punishment and not a form of pleasure. How did, like, was that your journey? Was you, were you always a happy workout person? Or like, did you have to find that along the way? Kate Galli 6:02  I was probably always a happy workout person. However, I certainly overdid it. I remember in my early 20s, when I was new to the gym and wasn't a personal trainer yet, I do an hour weights and an hour cardio six days a week, and I remember a trainer coming up to me and saying, the more you do with it, your exercise, the more you have to do, and the less you eat with your food, the less you have to eat. And it didn't really click at the time. But as you said, in hindsight, I was a bit about punishment, certainly with the cardio component. Never really liked that, and certainly about restriction with the food component too. There were so many foods that I was fearful of, whether it's fat because it made me fat or gave me pimples, you know, those were my misbeliefs, or whether I was fearful of carbohydrates, which I was that, like a decade, probably, definitely, those were some of the things that you know, made it less fun than it could be. And I think in recent years, even though I've had the fitness component so locked and loaded, I've, I lost the happiness a little bit because I'm so passionate about my mission. And I'm sure you can relate to this, or many listeners can relate to this. You know, we get this drive and this just focus and purpose and just go, go, go, and it's effective until it isn't, and it does get us results. However, the enjoying the journey and the prioritizing the happiness is something that I've really looked to focus on, honestly, just in the couple of, past couple of years. Lesley Logan 7:37  Yeah, I understand, I understand that too, like, I think I grew up going, well, I'll just work harder. Like, you know, if I just work harder, I get better grades. Like, if I work harder, I can make more, like, you know, if you just work extra hours, you get paid more. And then, like, you start your own business, because you're like, I have this impact I want to make. I have this vision I want to do. And because you're so driven for it, it's pretty easy to just keep going, but at some point you wake up and going, oh my God, what am I doing? Like I am my own worst boss. I'm so hard on myself. I'm not happy. I'm doing the thing I said would make me happy, and I'm not, and I'm not happy. And so there's some place where, like, the purpose you have on this planet, and you get misaligned. So you're doing the thing, but you're not enjoying the doing of the thing. And so I feel like we, I feel like we all have to kind of go through that to actually get on the right path, because I don't know. I mean, maybe it's possible just to enjoy the beyond purpose and enjoy it all at the same time. But I feel like for a lot of us, we have to go hold on, where did I make a wrong turn or why am I not doing this. How did you find that?Kate Galli 8:43  Oh, so much. Um, first, I just want to say also that approach doesn't sell the lifestyle. When I was the extreme personal trainer, people might be, they might kind of think, oh, that's slightly inspirational. However, that's too much for me to even try what she does with her food and exercise. Same go with the veganism right? When I was the angry vegan that is not selling anyone on the lifestyle. I'm not welcoming people on board, so I made the change in the hardest, harshest possible way. I don't know how it would have come about if life didn't jump in the way and slap me in the face, but I'll try not to be so long with this. It is a bit heavy. But when I was first vegan, I'd been vegan a couple of years, and I was very much an animal rights activist. This is maybe, I don't know, six years ago now, and I was coming home for Christmas, and my dear mom rang me and she said, Katie, I don't know what to do about Christmas, because you're the animal rights activist, and your dad's anti vegan, and it's all about food. And we always had conflict, Lesley, my dad and I had, we had conflict always, but more so when I gave up all animal products. And she said, unless you want to mastermind a vegan feast and sell the family on it. I'm like, done. I will mastermind that feast. Perhaps you could sell the family on it. We had an amazing Christmas. I made eight new dishes. The food was fantastic. Mum was so grateful. When I was about to fly home to Sydney after that holiday, she said, Katie, will you watch What the Health with me? Now that's a documentary I had been emotionally blackmailing her to try and watch ever since I became vegan, ineffective, surprisingly, and so after I'd made all that effort, she watched it with me. She said, I'll try this plant-based thing for a couple of weeks. Years later, she's still plant-based. She's becoming more animal rights activist like me, our relationship could not be stronger, not the best for her relationship with my father. Anyway, three and a half years ago now, I got the phone call from my father that I always thought I'd get from my mum. Dad's not the healthiest with the way he eats or thinks, and I always thought I'd get the phone call from Mum, Katie, it's your dad. And I got the phone call from dad. Kate, it's your mum. And Mum had died suddenly, and I'd spoken to her that morning, a Sunday morning, at 7 am as I walked along the beaches, like we spoke every single morning, and by 3 pm she was gone. And as anyone who's lost the person they love most in the world knows, the shock and the sadness, you have no space for anything else in your world. And two things happened, not instantly, but over the course of the next year, I realized that the sadness at losing my mum is so overwhelming, I legitimately have no more energy to be angry and sad and frustrated at all the non-vegans in the world. I just don't have emotional capacity for that because I've lost my number one person. I also realized that with Mum, I have no regrets. We both knew how much we loved and respected each other, 100% no regrets there. If that had been my father, I would have had regrets, because our relationship was not as it should be, and a huge component of that was the judgment I held towards him for his actions. And so bit by bit, I forced myself out of that angry vegan and you know, life was just all about spreading this message back then. Now it's all it was about animal rights, nothing else, no space for anything else, wasn't effective, I wasn't happy, and so that is what forced me out of it. And I don't know what else would have, sadly.Lesley Logan 12:40  I'm so sorry, but I really appreciate you sharing, because I think we could insert any word for vegan and anti-vegan. I think we can insert political parties. We could insert like, different war, all the different things, because it really is, it becomes this like thing in the middle. And when families get together, it's just like it's glaringly there, and it starts to feel personal, because they're personal to us, and we love them. We're like, how can, how can I love someone who is again, something I care about so much, so I just appreciate you sharing that, because I definitely think your story, I think anyone can listen to and even if you aren't going plant-based or that's not something you care about, there is someone in your life who doesn't care as much about one thing or cares differently than you do, and you can think about, like, okay, I'm gonna have regrets there. So what can I do about it? The other thing is, it's really, and this is kind of like a sad, funny, but like, I have, I'm not plant-based totally. Like, call me a vegan who eats meat because I'm like, very dairy-free. I am a lot of I'm not so grain-free anymore, but there's a lot of grains I just can't eat. They don't do well. I can't do oats. Oat milk was my favorite. That's not a thing I can do. Like, I'm out on that, but like, at any rate, I choose to eat some meats that I'm very particular about. Like, how are they farmed all the different things. But we're, because of that, we're very aware of other people's dietary needs. And so Brad or somebody, was like, oh, are they vegan? I'm like, oh, you would know. If they were vegan, we would already know. And it's because, and maybe not so more anymore, but like, back when you became a vegan, like, that was kind of a thing, like, you wore it on your shirt. You were telling everyone to do it and I think that what we have learned through so much of this is that whatever it is we care about, yelling at people about how wrong they are is never going to get them to want to join us, you know, that's just not the way to do it. You have to figure out, like, how, what is it that they care about, and how can what they care about align with what we care about, and we can, like, show, you know, they have to experience it. They have to have their time. So anyways, I think that's really beautiful. So how did so, so tell me what's next. So, like, then you, you still wanted to stay on your purpose and your path and your journey of being plant-based. But how did you align changing how you went about it to that purpose?Kate Galli 15:01  So it's a constant battle, right? It's a constant daily awareness. One thing that helps me is with my podcast, I've interviewed, like literally hundreds of the most passionate and compassionate activists or authors athletes around the world. And I look at the ones who seem effective and happy in what they do, and I will say I've got mad respect for any type of activist, even the most extreme ones. However, they're not the happiest, and I worry about their health, and I think they only survive because they live in their little vegan bubble, and they only associate with other vegans. If they had to integrate into the world and associate with all their non vegan friends and family all the time, which is the path I've chosen to, you know, all of my family now and friends basically, are non-vegan. You have to prioritize that happiness, and I actually made it a little bit actionable to help myself get there. I have an ABC and A is an awareness of how my life was going to look in three months, six months, 12 months, if I kept going down that same path, you know, my relationship with my father would be even worse, my relationship with my colleagues, my clients, just random strangers. There was a lot of pain about how it was going to happen if nothing changed. So then B is the brainstorm. I thought, what are some of the things I need to stop doing? I stopped sharing those brutal posts on social media, because to share them, you have to see them, and then you get hate comments. I stopped having those conversations, and everyone knows them, whether it's about politics, as you say, or religion or a war, whatever it is, you know that conversation that isn't going to end well, because either you and that other person had disagree or in some scenarios, especially with veganism, they're just up for the debate. They don't really care either way, they're just like, let's have a debate with this crazy vegan, right? I stopped those conversations, and what I started doing is I started sharing happy, good news stories. I actually created a whole email every week around the good news story. I started sharing delicious recipes. I started sharing delicious food, which, by the way, was my mom's very effective approach. So I'm modeling the love and compassion and deliciousness that she led with in the few years she was plant-based. So those are the things I started doing, and the C is for a commitment. This is why I so widely share I'm no longer an angry vegan, because you can get when little angry activist Kate makes an appearance, someone's going to call me on it, right? They're going to go, hey, aren't you now the vegan that leads with love and compassion and deliciousness? So it's kind of a form of accountability. So, you know, that's the way that I had to have a talk to myself as well. Because initially there was, I guess, an awareness that that was I letting the animals down by no longer flying the flag so aggressively? And I came to the decision, and I talk about this all the time with guests on my podcast, that it's not necessarily what feels right in our heart all the time, it's what is effective. Right? So you, if my big picture is what it is, then I need to take the most effective actions to get there. And they might not always be my natural instinct. You know, sometimes I just need to calm down, get clear on what my vision is, and then take that more effective action. Lesley Logan 18:27  I love this. I love this. Again, you can apply this to anything, but I think it's actually like an awareness of what you want, brainstorm all the different ways you're going to do that, and then commit to doing it like that's whatever it is. But I do think that what you want to, I want to highlight more, is like, I think we put a lot of pressure on ourselves to be all or nothing people, that if we're not all in, then it's not going to work. And I understand, like, the people who talk about manifesting, you have to like, you have to like, do all the things, but that's so much pressure, and it's not always attracting people on the journey. So I love that you, like, made really good, just shared really good recipes with people. I think, like, when people don't realize that, like, it can taste really good, you know what I mean? Like, you can actually make things taste good with it. You can sneak 'em in as like, oh, like, I had, one of my girlfriends was a happy herbivore, and she wrote all the books about the happy herbivore, and she made a cheese ball that was, like, insane. And I would just be like, I'll just, how do I make this cheese ball at home? Like it's the most amazing thing, because I miss I have, I can't do dairy. I miss it. I miss cheese. I want a cheese ball. I want to be with the people they're having cheese at the Super Bowl. I want to have it. And she, like, showed me, and then all of a sudden, it's like, you just put it out. You don't have to tell them what it is. And they dip in, like, this is amazing. It's like, you know, so, like, sometimes it's like, you have to, you get more, you know, bees with honey, right? Like, that's really what it is. So, and I apologize to the vegans listening, if you are against the honey part, I know. Some people like it. Some people don't. You know, there's a whole thing. So anyways, but I think it's really it is that what is the most effective approach to get people to understand what you're wanting them to do? And in any vision, you have to paint the picture of something beautiful that people want to be part of. And sometimes, if we're shouting from the rooftops too loud about all the bad things, it makes people feel almost paralyzed, and they're like, I don't even know what to do next. I like so I'm just, I'm just gonna, I'm actually gonna stand firm in what I'm doing, because I don't, you know. So what an what an amazing thing you did. And also, I like that you use the public accountability to help you stay, stay on because, yeah, we all have instincts. It's like, I'm just gonna yell at that person, because that's what I want to do, because that's gonna, that's gonna make me feel good, but it's not necessarily gonna get you what you want. Kate Galli 20:50  No, agreed, 100%. Lesley Logan 20:52  So, okay, you, we haven't ever really talked about plant-based and I kind of want to get into it, just because I know that you have such a wonderful approach to it. How, how, like, how easy it is to be a plant-based eater. Because I think some people get overwhelmed with, like, if, where am I gonna get my protein, where am I gonna get all these things, and so it's hard to feel like, how do I change over? Do you, is this something that you do in a step by step approach? Is this something like, you, like, try to switch people over all the way, what's, what's the form of action that's easy for people? Kate Galli 21:26  For sure. A little background, you know, I made it harder than I needed to initially, for myself. Before I became vegan, nine years ago, I'd been vegetarian for 23 years, so no meat for 23 years. By that point in time, I'd been a personal trainer, so a low carb, high protein, vegetarian personal trainer for a decade. I decided I needed to be vegan. I walked into the gym and announced to all the other trainers in this gym, bro-type of the gym, that I was going vegan. One of them said, well, goodbye, lean muscle mass. And I realized that if this didn't work for me, it would reflect really badly on the lifestyle. So I put a lot of pressure into basically calculating, not just the macronutrients, they're actually quite easy, but all the micronutrients that I needed to hit in every single meal. So my meals just were a lot of effort and not so much deliciousness early days, I made it really hard because I had that point to prove, you know, cut to the chase nothing changed, right? I didn't gain any fat, I didn't lose any muscle or strength. I gained some energy. It was all good, but I made it hard. So now I look to make it easier for other people. I have a coaching program where I focus on clarity, confidence and consistency. I think they're really important with any health goal. And the clarity is actually where we look into building huge emotional intensity around your why, and we also align that why, or more so the actions you need to take to achieve that why with your most important values and beliefs. So that's getting really clear on your vision and the huge emotional intensity and how it's aligned with those emotional states that you're most drawn to. That clarity will pull you through those struggle straight days that we all get with any health goal, the confidence that's where the food comes in. Also, we're handling relationships with non-vegan loved ones, or whatever it may, might be. So yeah, in the confidence component I am all about, hey, this is the anatomy of a healthy plant-based meal. This is what it looks like. If your goal is muscle gain, you can obviously gain muscle, but you've got to be really aware, not just plant protein. That's pretty easy. You've got to be aware of caloric density often, for example, a big guy with lots of muscle. Not to stereotype, but say, there's the guy that's already happy with his physique. He might try plant-based, for the environment, for his health, whatever it may be. And he might lose a lot of weight just because he's, you know, he's swapped steak for spinach or something. That's not gonna work. It needs to be swapped for sweet potato and black beans, you know, with more caloric density, stuff like that. So that's the confidence. And then consistency is helping people stay on track.Lesley Logan 24:17  Yeah, I think I appreciate you talking about there's, like, different ways to do it, and like, what are your, what are your actual health goals for it? Because it is true. I think people think I'm gonna subs, I'm gonna, I think we're past the point people thinking it won't taste good. I mean, every vegan restaurant I've ever been to makes you realize that you can have vegan comfort food, and it is amazing. You know, like, you can have, you can have all of that, but it is the Can I also lift the way I want to lift. Can I do the things that the hobbies that I want to have, and I think like having joy in our lives is really important, and I hate and I think having joy outside of what we eat, but like in the things we do, but how we eat and how we fuel ourselves affects the things that we do. So I appreciate that you, you share that I am, I mean, I will just say, like, here in the States, we have, in the moment that we're recording, we have a massive bird flu problem, which is why, and it's been going on for a long time, and so eggs have been creeping up and all that. I live in a state where the eggs must be cage-free. So I was actually like, well, that works. I think that that's great. They have to be cage-free. I think they can't be bad. But what does that mean? It means our eggs are $20 for 12 pack. So I was just like, all right, so we're gonna have to think about, you know, maybe, maybe we're going even more plant-based than we were before. And like, how do I as a 42-year-old woman who wants to stay strong, who wants to have the energy to do the business that I do, like, I have to film workouts for Pilates and stuff like that. How do I reduce animal protein? Put it to plant protein and and also, like, you know, keep up what I've got, continue to remain strong, and then hopefully it's cheaper than the $20 eggs. Like, that would be great. Kate Galli 26:03  I've got you it is cheaper. Two things. First off, you know you need to look at tofu scramble to replace those eggs. My dear mom, when she first went plant-based, hated tofu. I won her over with tofu scramble over crispy, baked, smashed potatoes. Loved it. So there are so many delicious recipes out there that you can make on mass. I would also say I also have a 5S strategy for plant-based protein, for just inserting it into your meals and I can run through that strategy. Lesley Logan 26:34  I want to hear it if you don't mind, because all of my ladies are over 40, they have heard from all the different health people we have to have protein with perimenopause and menopause like make sure you're doing your protein. Don't overdo the cardio. So we're all on base with you. So what's, what's the 5S?Kate Galli 26:48  Awesome. So the first S is for the star. So that's when the plant-based protein is the star of the meal. And that's what you used to think of your protein like, right? So it's the steak was the old way. The star might now be the lentils and a curry, right? Or the marinated tofu. It's one kind of hardcore, decent serve of the plant-based protein. The next S is for scatter over you've got your regular meal, maybe your oats, not for you Lesley, but for someone else, who can have oats and you scatter over your hemp seeds, more protein per gram than beef, your pumpkin seeds, whatever it might be. The third S is for a stir through. Again, you've got your meal. It's delicious. Maybe it's a little bit lacking in the protein. And so you stir through your plant-based protein powder into your cereal, or your whatever it may be into your soups, you're just stirring through that additional plant protein. Next up is one of my favorites. It's the side. So maybe I just want that meal, that salad that I've made for everyone else to go with their meal, and it is delicious and abundant. It's just lacking in plant-based protein. So I have a side of a cup of edamame or crispy chickpeas or whatever it may be. The fifth sneaky one is the sauce. You know, early days, PT, personal trainer, a lot of sources were like high caloric density and low nutritional value and just made of processed oils and all of this rubbish. A lot of the plant-based sources are amazingly full of sneaky protein, like a silken tofu in a tofu ricotta type of a sauce, or an edamame guac. So guacamole that's chock full of edamame or whatever it may be. So yeah, they're the 5S and I use a combination of them every single day. I could make it six and make it a snack as well. So, yeah, there's lots. Lesley Logan 28:43  I love that. I love that there's a there's a snack that we, I love when my husband makes me it's this popcorn with spirulina, Oh, little bit of nutritional yeast, salt, and I believe there is some a little bit of garlic, or maybe it's kind there's a tiny bit of something that just gives a little bit little bit of spice. And so yes, your fingers turn like, green or black. So he's like, he eats it with chopsticks. I'm not so good, so I just, I'm like, well, we'll just eat and then we'll wash our hands. But I love that snack, because also, with all that stuff added, you actually end up with protein on your popcorn. Like, it's like, see if there's a way to find these different things and also get all the nutrition from that. Brilliant. So I don't know, Kate, I didn't, I didn't expect to go into thinking maybe I'm gonna be more plant based after this. But I think, I think, I think I am just because, I mean, we already, my husband and I, are already very big on the environment. We're very conscious of, like, if we're gonna eat animal protein, like, how are we getting it? Where is it where is it coming from? We really try to make sure we're really good about that as best we can. But at this point, some point, you go, okay, now it's just becoming more expensive to even do that. Yeah, and it's and that, and that's not, you know, we're not attached to that. We're not attached to it. So I think this is really cool, but also I really love the idea of, like, kind of figuring out which s I want it to be, how, like, how I want to do it, and then, and then be kind to ourselves about trying to add it in, because it can be overwhelming, and we can't do all or nothing. So we have to be able to start to maybe it's like one meal a day that we, you know, change, and then go from there. Kate Galli 30:19  100% and you mentioned, like cost of living, all of that. You know, when I used to be a planner of meal prep, and was very exacting with that, but now I just do food prep, where I prep individual components on the weekend, and I can make a variety of meals. And you know, when I prep my dried chickpeas, which takes no time, or my dried lentils, that is just a colossal amount of very cost-effective plant protein that I can just use in almost a limitless number of meals. And my dried chickpeas and lentils really aren't going up in price. They're incredibly cheap.Lesley Logan 30:57  Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's, I mean, we got so much from you today. We got being it until we see it, and being happy, and are checking our approach to our purpose on this planet. And then we got some just tips to like, adjust our life. Because I do think that no matter what you want to do in this world, what we forget is that our food is fuel. And if your food is not fueling you in a way that actually allows you to show up confidently with energy and stamina and things like that. Then you, you are distracted from the purpose that you have on this planet.Kate Galli 31:30  100% yeah, and whatever your huge purpose is, it is, sadly, going to take longer than you would most love, so you better be fueling your body well and looking after yourself in all the other ways to have, as you said, the sustainability to be in it long term, because it is going to take a while.Lesley Logan 31:47  Yeah, I know. Sorry, folks. You heard it here from Kate. In case you haven't heard it from my mouth, Kate's telling you like it just takes, everything just takes longer than we want. And it's not because you're not great at it. It's not because you don't, aren't, aren't deserving of it. It's not because you like you shouldn't you, in hindsight, your relationship went left when you went right. It's because you becoming the person you have to be who can do the thing, has to get there you have to, you, yourself are a muscle that has to be trained and cultivated and strengthened and challenged to get to the place you want to go. Kate Galli 32:20  Completely agree. Lesley Logan 32:22  Kate, I think you're amazing. I could talk to you forever. We're gonna take a brief break and then find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you. Lesley Logan 32:29  All right, Kate, where do you like to hang out? Where can people connect more if they want to nerd out and just get to know you and work with you more?Kate Galli 32:38  The best place is the main website. So that's strongbodygreenplanet.com. Via the site, you'll find my Plant Positive Journal dedicated to my dear mom, my Healthification Podcast, and basically everything else that I do online. So, strongbodygreenplanet.com. Lesley Logan 32:56  Oh, love it. We'll have all that link below before we let you go. I know you've given us a lot of great things to think about. But for our people who are like, okay, I'm really drawn to Kate. I really love what she's talking about. What are some bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps they can take to be it till they see it? Kate Galli 33:13  I've got to say my number one go-to is to elicit your own personal values if you haven't yet. So your values are those emotional states that you are naturally drawn to. Think of where you spend your time, your energy, your money. My top two are freedom and integrity. But there's no right or wrong. Yours might be love, connection, truth, whatever they are, elicit those values and align them with your most important goal or vision. More so, align them with the actions you need to take to achieve that goal or vision that's going to be bold, because when you, when you have this big, powerful vision that's about more than just you, you're going to be more inclined to stick to it and take those bold actions. It's going to be executable because you have alignment. That is everything. Alignment between what you're looking to achieve and the daily actions you're taking is so much more powerful. It's intrinsic, because what you're looking to do is aligned with your heart. Now you're not stopping yourself, you're not fighting yourself. I call this the stop fighting yourself part of the process. And finally, it's targeted, because, again, you had absolute clarity on where you're looking to go and what you're looking to achieve.Lesley Logan 34:29  You're so great. We are so I, like, lucky to have gotten to know you today. I feel just so honored to have met you, inspired. I'm really excited to to hear how our Be It Pod listeners apply this, what they take out of this, what their favorite part is. So you all make sure that you tag the Be It Pod, tag Kate, and make sure that she hears what your takeaways are. Reach out to her at strong body, strongbodygreenplanet, right? I just think it's really amazing. And I think, your approach can, is something, again, I'll say it one more time for everyone, you can apply this to anything that you care about, and it's going to make life more fun, because it certainly isn't fun to be around the dinner table with people who are like, you know, you know that there's just going to be they're going to say the one thing, and they're going to do it just to piss you off, to see if you can get there and like, if you can just remember what's the purpose, and how can we attract them and what can we lovingly educate, as opposed to yelling? I think it's a wonderful way for us all to be it till we see it. So Kate, thank you so much. Everyone, you know what to do. Until next time. Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 35:40  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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In this FYF episode, Lesley Logan shares practical advocacy phrases to use during medical visits so you feel seen and heard. She also celebrates wins from Heather Ingram and Joanne Sutton, highlighting the strength in trusting your instincts and practicing gratitude. Plus, Lesley reflects on the joy of a solo weekend and embracing simple pleasures. Let this episode be your reminder that every small shift counts.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:47  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? Are you doing great? Happy Friday. I'm so glad you're here. I really am. I'm really glad that you're here. I hope you know that, like, as I sit here, picking what's gonna be the inspirational message for you today, picking the wins I'm going to share with you, reading your wins, because I have, like, a collection of wins. Some of them, if you notice, like when I read them, they're like from months ago is because there's so many that I want to share, and I wish I could share them all every single week, but know that I really do, can't wait to get them out there. And I hope that when you re-hear your win that you shared from months ago, you remember like you did that. You fucking did that. So way to go. So we do an inspiration from the internet, because things can be inspiring out there, doesn't have to be all be crap. We do wins of yours. We do a win of mine, and then we do a mantra. Lesley Logan 1:28  And so this particular one is like, phrases to say when you're at the doctor. And I wanted to give this to you, because we want to talk about, like, how you need to be an advocate for yourself when you go to the doctor sometimes. So here they are. Specific phrases that will make doctors listen to you. One is, this is having a significant impact on my quality of life. The next one is, this is having a significant impact on my partner's life. Another is, it's keeping me from have, being able to do activities that I enjoy. I'm having to take off work because I'm experiencing symptoms. I've struggled to get appropriate care for this problem. Please, can you make a note why you're denying me this treatment? Could you please send a copy of my medical records to me after we're done? Other people have noticed the problems I'm having and have said to me that it may be an issue. My pain is significant enough that I cannot sleep or can't walk. If you are in a larger body then saying something like I have recently lost 10 to 15 pounds, and my symptoms have got worse. That can be a really quick cheat for doctors. They often say, like, you have to lose weight. And you can say, I've done that. And then another thing, if you have notes that you have psychiatric care to let them know that I've already talked about this with my psychiatric care doctors, and they agree that this issue has nothing to do with my psychiatric care, and my pain is very difficult to manage with other over the counter treatments here's what I'm experiencing to manage the situation. So like I, I wanted to share this with you, because I think sometimes we go to doctors and we tell them, like, oh, let's just see how it's going. Oh, you're in range, oh, this, oh that. And the problem is, is that you, by the time you got into the doctor is probably four to six months from when you wanted to and so it can be frustrating when they're like, let's just, let's just see how it's going. It's like it's been months, right? And I do hate when doctors are telling you to lose weight, because, as we know, most doctors had the least amount of training possible around nutrition, especially in the States. I don't, I can't speak for other places. So this particular account we'll link to in the show notes, these are people that are in the U.K. and these are phrases that they have noticed have worked for them, and then they have a whole bunch of comments in the section of other phrases have worked for other people. And I just wanted you to have it because, my goodness, your health should not be something that you, that is holding you back and keeping you from being it till you see it. And as you know, on the show, we've had multiple doctors on here before. We've had Lindsay Moore on here to talk about how to advocate for yourself. We've had Jessica Valant who talks about advocating for yourself. We've had the FemGevity people who work as telemedicine help for for women in multiple states in the U.S. So we, at this podcast, like, I really am trying, like, how do we get more doctors to you, to help you be till you see it? Because sometimes it's our health that's keeping us from these wins and from doing the thing we want to do, and holding us back. And then you get to the doctor, and they don't listen to you, that can be infuriating. So I hope those phrases help. I really, I had to advocate myself when I was having health issues, because I was like, let's just wait and see. Oh, it's not that bad. You probably just have IBS. And it's like, no, I don't have IBS. That's not a thing. I don't have that and so, but I would, but instead of, like, having a nice phrase to say, like, I have done all the things for IBS, and it has not, the symptoms have gotten worse, like that phrase would have gotten their attention, or, you know, things like that. So anyways, I hope, I hope that's helpful. I hope that helps you when on your next appointment, so you can be seen and taken care of, so you can go be the person you want to be. Lesley Logan 5:00  Okay, your wins. Okay. This is from Heather Ingram. She is an eLevate grad, Agency member, and just all around badass person. And she wrote FYF, one of my clients who comes one time a week, does homework three to four times a week. So she does her Pilates homework three to four times a week. She's loving my new Contrology apparatus since I switched from the Allegro Tower of Power the last three sessions, she is amazed at how much connection she feels, and that it feels so much harder, but in a good way. Today, she said running feels like a real running too. I was so nervous to make a big change from an Allegro to a Contrology for fear of resistance or client concern in my boutique home studio, another client commented how much safer she feels in rushing splits and tendon stretch, since she has to do all the work, but now rocks the Reformer teaser for the first time, I personally felt like Pilates so is now so much harder as fuck in my own body. But I'm loving all the curiosity and my own body and my clients. I'm glad I made the leap in my teaching journey. I just want to acknowledge, like, even if you guys don't even know what those words are Tower of Power or Contrology apparatus. Like, we've all had to, like, felt this urge to, like, make a change in our life, right? Like, maybe it's your schedule or it's your job, or it's where you're gonna live, or all these things, and we're like, oh my God, and you don't know how it's gonna be on the other side, you just feel like it could be better. And then, you know those concerns that, like, the negative person's gonna come in and, like, go, oh, I like the other thing better. And like, so you could, like, go, oh my God, did I make the right decision. You could doubt yourself. And so I love that Heather saw out these comments as wins, that she made the right decision. And I just wanna say, if you are someone who's making a switch or change in your life, seek out the compliments and try, because what will happen is your brain will actually be on the alert for the person who's going to say, this sucks. And you go, yeah, you're right. It does suck. And really and really know like that person just thinks everything sucks, right? So anyways, I just wanted to share that win, because I think we can all like we can all relate to that a bit, right? Lesley Logan 7:04  Okay, Joanne Sutton, she's from Agency. She's in Australia. She's amazing. She's got a great book out. We've had wins from her on her book. And she wrote, I was feeling down about my finances, so I have a few clients away for many weeks, and some large unexpected expenses. So I started worrying. I knew I needed to pull myself out of this dangerous worry state. So I wrote down all my financial wins for the year in a notebook. There were so many. The more I wrote down, the more grateful I felt, and I realized my situation was so much better than I thought it was. They included things like raising my rates, paying off my tax statement, plan early, getting a new client, selling Thera bands, etc. I'm no longer worrying and still feel I and still feeling grateful for everything I have and celebrating each new financial win as it comes along. I have a new client booked in for an initial assessment, as I mentioned above, she read my book a year ago, which she describes as a fascinating and signed up for my free book bonuses, which means she also gets my fortnightly newsletter. So after a year, she subscribed to my on demand videos and wants to have the initial assessment next month, which she has already paid for. She's in the U.K. and I'm in Sydney, Australia. My client journey really worked. I just like, I'm just obsessed with this, Joanne, because first of all, like, let's just go back to your first win, which is about, like, going, oh my god, I have all these bills. Oh my god, all this is happening. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. Like, ah, you know, I live in the States, and like, every thing on every time I open my phone the news widget is like, I got something financial for me to worry about. And it's so easy, as someone who's like, tendency to upper limit is by worry, to go in that worry zone. And I love that you went into the gratitude zone, and I love that you started to write down things that were financial gratitudes, and that allowed you to see, like, actually, like, what's going on right now for you sucks, but you have done all this, so look at how much you have done so you can handle this. You can totally handle this. And a year ago, you did something so scary, you published a book, and someone saw it, and we never get to determine how long it takes someone to sign up for something, but the fact that you were so consistent with your newsletters, even with everything that's going on in your life, so that she could when she was ready to make the decision, make the decision, contact you. You have to be so proud of yourself. Your consistency is what got her there, right? It's so amazing. Like there's always gonna be reasons why we don't do the thing, why we don't send the newsletter, why we don't do the post, there's always a reason, but the fact that you had consistency there allowed this person to feel safe and sign up and like, that's just going to fill those financial problems that are momentarily, momentarily happening. Yeah. So anyways, thank you, both ladies, for sharing these things so we can see, like, ah, gratitudes. Like, never underestimate them. Lesley Logan 9:38  Okay, my win. Okay. In May, I know this is June, but in May, I didn't get to celebrate with you guys, yet, my husband goes on a camping trip with his friends, and they always want me to go, like they always, they always want me to go. And I was going to go, and then they changed the date, so it was going to be difficult for me to go. And then they went the original dates, and then they changed dates. It was like a hard no, can't do it. I was leading the eLevate Cadillac weekend, which means it's like the halfway point, I would have about eight different people at the house from the two different groups, and so it was just gonna be a lot and I mean, not a lot. It was amazing. I love doing it. It's a lot, but it's really fun for me. However, I, I was like, oh, I can't go on this trip now, because this is happening, and my win is, I actually was like, okay, but what do I get to do? Because I don't get to go on this trip, but I also get to have a weekend doing whatever I want when I'm not teaching this group of people. Amazing. My husband took Bayon so I actually also had a weekend dog-free. So I was just like, I was like, a single girl for like, four days. I'm gonna tell you right now, I did all the things that I never get to do, and I'm like, I have to think about the dogs. Do I have to go back to this? Oh, does Brad want to come like I did everything, like a single woman would do it, and I fucking loved it, not that I but I'm not saying like I would love being single. I would never love that. I love my partner so much, and I love my dog so much, but like, I just took advantage of four days, and also, like that allowed me to be so much even more focused on the women who came to the house for the eLevate weekend. And then also for those who are on the Zoom, I could be so much more focused for them. So, a huge win. And just like, yeah, I took myself on a girls night. Fuck yeah, I did.Lesley Logan 11:17  You know, I ate at the places I wanted to eat. I had girl dinner, which for me is eggs and tater tots, sweet potato tater tots, sweet potato tater tots, to be specific. So, like I did all that, guilt free. So fun. And so you know, if you needed to hear that a girl's night is a freaking win, like a solo girls night is a win, or a girls night with your girlfriends is a win. It is. These are hard things to do. Should I, I could have cleaned out my closet, and if I had I could call that a win, but I really wanted to take the weekend and do like, whatever I wanted to do, and so I did. That's my win. I love it. Lesley Logan 11:48  Okay, let's get you a mantra, and then get you on your day. My heart is open to helpfulness for myself and others. My heart is open to helpfulness for myself and others. My heart is open to helpfulness for myself and others. You guys, are you receiving? Are you allowing it to be easy for people to give you things? Are you receiving? I hope you are. If you're not, repeat that mantra three more times. You guys, have an amazing day and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 12:16  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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And unfortunately, when you skip ahead, you miss out on like the muscle strength and experience you need for where you're going to go. So then when you get there, not only are you further along than you are strong enough to be, but now you don't have the skill set to handle the problems you have. Lesley Logan 0:18  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:01  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the sustainable convo I had with Stephanie O'Dea in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened that episode, you need to, as part of a slow living request, you got to go rush over and just make it.Brad Crowell 1:17  Just rush right now, get over there. Lesley Logan 1:20  Do not pass go. You gotta listen to it. She's so great. She's so fun. I got to be on her podcast as well. But also she's like, a famous, like, slow-cooking person, like she's.Brad Crowell 1:30  Yeah, Crock-Pot. Lesley Logan 1:31  Just the famous Crock-Pot. Brad Crowell 1:33  Not insta-pot. Lesley Logan 1:33  Yeah, no. Brad Crowell 1:34  She was very upset about the Instant Pot. Lesley Logan 1:37  She was and we were really in on the insta-pot, but we got off the insta-pot, we like made soup.Brad Crowell 1:44  Yeah, still do occasionally. It's good times. Lesley Logan 1:47  Just whenever we're home when it's soup weather. Speaking of what day today is, today is June 19th 2025 and it's Juneteenth here in the United States. The freedom of African Americans from slavery in the U.S. in 1865 is celebrated on the holiday Juneteenth on June 19th. Juneteenth is made up of the words June and 19th. Brad Crowell 2:06  Case you didn't know.Lesley Logan 2:08  Just, whoever writes these, it's always just the explanation of the day, using the day you can't. Brad Crowell 2:15  It's celebrated every year on this day. Lesley Logan 2:17  Yes, yes. And it is on this day that Major General Gordon Granger, wow, arrived in Texas, more than 155 years ago, to inform slaves that slavery had been abolished. Today is also.Brad Crowell 2:31  Yeah, well I just want to comment on that because, because they just ignored the messengers and they were like, nah, we're good. We're gonna keep doing.Lesley Logan 2:41  Not the slaves, the bad people. Brad Crowell 2:43  Yeah, the slavers. They were like, yeah, we're just gonna keep going. And then they, they sent, well, actually, I don't, I actually, don't know who first, who came first. It's possible that Gordon Granger got there to make the initial announcement, and then later it had to be enforced.Lesley Logan 3:01  Yeah, this is something that the day didn't give us information on. And I feel like I've read about, here's what I do, every Juneteenth I actually read about it and I find myself appalled that this happened. And then also, of course, it didn't, and also the time we're recording this. Brad Crowell 3:15  Also, of course it did what? Lesley Logan 3:16  I said at the time that we're recording this. Brad Crowell 3:18  No, no, before that you said. Lesley Logan 3:19  Of course, it did, of course, bad things. Of course it happened because they're shitty people. Of course it happened. But on this time that we are recording this, because the day after a very, very huge slave, like the largest slave sugar plantation, slave house burned to the ground, it was turned into a wedding venue, and so people are having those antebellum weddings, and it's like humongous tons of rooms like but was one of the worst slave places in Louisiana, and it burned to the ground. And I have to say, people are celebrating the fuck out of it online. And I have no problems with that. In fact, I have why I like was celebrating and smiling with them every reel of every person, like dancing and going, oh, do you need some water? And then pouring away from the fire. I was like, yes, yes to all of it. Because, I mean, I just, it's just, it's bad. So anyways, please make sure that you are honoring Juneteenth today. Take some time to read up on it. If you didn't know about it. We obviously still have some learning to do, but it's an important day. Brad Crowell 4:25  Remember this general. Major General. Lesley Logan 4:27  Yeah, Major General Gordon Granger. Brad Crowell 4:30  That's a mouthful. Lesley Logan 4:30  That is a mouthful. I mean, his parents didn't name him Major General, so.Brad Crowell 4:37  Fortunately for his parents. Lesley Logan 4:38  What if he become a ranger? Then he'd be Ranger Granger. Brad Crowell 4:42  Major General Gordon Granger Ranger. Lesley Logan 4:44  No, he would have just been a ranger. It would have been Ranger Granger. All right, today is also the International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence and Conflict for everyone else there, out there in the world. So we wanted to, because it's an international show and so on this International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence and Conflict is observed every year on June 19th to raise awareness about sexual violence and conflict and to strategize ways to end these crimes throughout the world. On June 19th 2015, United Nations General Assembly proclaimed the date as the International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence and Conflict. This date commemorates the adoption of Security Council Resolution 1820 in which the Council condemned sexual violence as a tactic of war and an impediment to peace building. Yeah, wow. Brad Crowell 5:31  Yeah, this one's heavy. Lesley Logan 5:32  It's a heavy day. Brad, these are heavy. Brad Crowell 5:35  Yeah. I mean, you know, like, I listen to a lot of deep dive interviews about the conflicts in Europe, you know, and then a. Lesley Logan 5:45  Oh, it's terrible what they do. Brad Crowell 5:46  In the Middle East and in Africa. And, you know, like they're using rape as a tool of war in. Lesley Logan 5:54  So many countries. Brad Crowell 5:55  In the Ukraine, you know, in, in, it's historically.Lesley Logan 6:01  Yeah, it's happening. It's happened. It's happened for centuries and it happens everywhere, and it is horrifying. So I think it's, think it's, I can't believe it took till 2015 for the world to be like, this is a bad thing. Brad Crowell 6:16  Well, I mean, it's been, you know, it's a war crime. It's been war crime for a really long time. But yeah, maybe just this, you know, the day bringing awareness to it. Lesley Logan 6:27  Do you know who then, who gets to be the court for war crimes, like, who does it? Brad Crowell 6:33  Yeah. So there's the International Criminal Court, the ICC. Lesley Logan 6:37  Oh. Brad Crowell 6:37  Yeah and we're not a part of it, we don't honor the ICC as the United States of America, which is a complicated political decision. Lesley Logan 6:47  We are winning. We are winning in the history books right now, guys. Well, you know what? I think we need to bring this day up a little bit. So first of all, I think Juneteenth is like a positive holiday, right? Brad Crowell 7:04  Yeah, Juneteenth is a positive holiday. I think that it's important to remember, but also it's a day of celebration. So, love that. Lesley Logan 7:12  Okay. And. Brad Crowell 7:13  We can talk more about the ICC later, y'all, if you're really interested.Lesley Logan 7:16  I don't think anyone came here. We'll get Brad his own segment at the end. Brad Crowell 7:21  I listen to a lot of this kind of stuff, and, you know, it's interesting, it's interesting why we chose not to be, you know, part of it, but also we still. Lesley Logan 7:30  Well, because we would be in trouble for war crimes all the time. Brad Crowell 7:32  We would be in trouble for war crimes. That's right.Lesley Logan 7:34  Yes, that's right, okay, but you know what's happening that's going to be more fun than all this talk? July.Brad Crowell 7:42  Slow living. Lesley Logan 7:44  July 9th, we are hosting, wait, oh, we are doing this. Yes, okay. Brad Crowell 7:50  Yeah, this is actually happening. Lesley Logan 7:52  Okay, but there's a few things going on and July is very busy. Brad Crowell 7:54  July is a busy month for us. Lesley Logan 7:54  So, so it's June right now, obviously, Juneteenth, but July 9th, I am hosting an eLevate workout and Q&A. So if you're a Pilates instructor, this is a free workout. It's a way to get your questions about eLevate, my mentorship, answered. You can hear from people who've done eLevate and why they like it and why you should do it, because you shouldn't take it from me. You can take it from the people who've been part of it. So you want to go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist. Then on July 17th, we are doing an Agency Mini. Guess we are bringing it back for Pilates instructors and studio owners. Brad Crowell 8:30  Yeah, that's exciting. Lesley Logan 8:30  If you remember, we used to, up until last year, do it a little week long coaching program for Pilate instructors and studio owners. And we loved it, and it was amazing, and then we stopped doing it, and we're like, we're never doing it again, because it was there's parts of it that were amazing, were amazing, and some of the parts were overwhelming, and they were overwhelming. Brad Crowell 8:48  Yeah, not just for us, but also for the attendees. Lesley Logan 8:51  Mostly, for, yeah, it was less about there's less about us, more, so we have been working behind the scenes on making some amazing changes, and now we have a new Mini. Brad Crowell 9:01  We've got a mini Mini, but we're just still calling it Mini, yeah, but yeah, it's only three days, not seven. Lesley Logan 9:06  Yes. And you get all the best parts of Mini, which is a workshop on how to actually attract clients you want to work with. Then you get to use Lesley on Demand, this amazing tool. So we'll help you with your I Help statement. And then you get to join office hours with Brad and I, includes breath work, and we're going to answer all the running questions about your business on this call. It's so much fun. You can see if Agency is right for you, but also you can get questions answered. And, you know, take that information with you. Brad Crowell 9:31  Just come party about your biz. It's gonna be good. Go to prfit.biz/mini prfit.biz/mini yeah.Lesley Logan 9:39  And then July, yeah, I believe we actually start on the 24th but maybe we start on the 25th Don't ask me. We start end of July, and we go to August 17th, and it's the OPC Summer Tour. You're gonna go to opc.me/tour to get your tickets for and see the cities we're going to. We are going up.Brad Crowell 9:58  We teach in Phoenix on the 25th So we could go down on the 24th.Lesley Logan 10:01  Oh, okay, cool. You know, we'll do whatever. Maybe we'll go to the Oatman Ranch and we'll go play with the donkeys. Brad Crowell 10:08  I don't remember that. ILesley Logan 10:10  Yeah, I told you about it. I told you about it. Brad Crowell 10:12  Oatman. Lesley Logan 10:12  I think it's called Oatman. Um, anyways, um, you guys, we're gonna start in Phoenix, and we go to San Diego, then it's Los Angeles, and it's Santa Barbara, and then maybe a city in between, and then San Francisco, and then Sacramento, and then Eureka, and then Portland and Seattle, Vancouver, yes, you just heard Vancouver, Canada, and then Kamloops, Canada and Calgary, Canada. And then we're gonna come down into Idaho and Utah. Brad Crowell 10:42  We're gonna swing through Montana for a bit. We want to see glacier. Lesley Logan 10:45  Well, for vacation, yeah, so, but, you know. Brad Crowell 10:48  We'll be posting about a coffee shop and white fish, probably. Lesley Logan 10:52  Yeah. Well, at any rate, you want to go to opc.me/tour to snag your tickets. And by the way, we end in Las Vegas, and that class already sold out. Brad Crowell 10:59  I know it's insane. I can't believe it. Bam. Lesley Logan 11:02  24 hours. Class sold out. We already have. Brad Crowell 11:03  20 seats in. Lesley Logan 11:04  Yeah. Brad Crowell 11:05  That's. Lesley Logan 11:06  Well, we did tell them if they wanted us to come, and they did. Yeah, yeah, opc.me/tour of course, we are sponsored again by Balanced Body and Contrology. We're bringing our Contrology equipment. It's gonna be so much fun. Then in September we are going to be in the U.K. We have two amazing stops, Leeds and Essex. Leeds, you can get two day pass there. There's only three spots left, so. Brad Crowell 11:31  Only three spots left in Leeds. Lesley Logan 11:33  At the time that we're recording. So we're recording this, obviously, before Juneteenth, so you never know. And then in Essex, we actually opened up the day passes, because we're doing Essex on a Tuesday and a Wednesday. So you could do an all day Tuesday. Brad Crowell 11:44  You'll come out for the day from the city. Lesley Logan 11:46  All day Wednesday. We know it's not easy to get two days away during the week, but also it's really hard to get away on the weekends, so we offered you two options, during the weekend, on the weekends, opc.me/uk that's where you want to go. And then, of course, in October and come with us to Cambodia. Holy moly, we are insanity. Have you heard this, this schedule, and then he wanted to take me camping in here, guys. Brad Crowell 12:08  Oh, we're going. Lesley Logan 12:08  We're going camping, apparently. Brad Crowell 12:10  Yeah, we're going camping somewhere in there. Lesley Logan 12:11  Very expensive storage that we live in sometimes. So Cambodia. Brad Crowell 12:16  Oh, you mean our house?Lesley Logan 12:17  Yeah, I love it so much. But Cambodia is you'll have, you'll be at our house in Cambodia, and we do retreat, stuff and workshops and temple tours. Brad Crowell 12:28  Oh men, it's just gonna be amazing. Lesley Logan 12:30  So go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. The plural is on the crows and the retreats, but not the nest. So there you go. All right, before we got to get to Stephanie, but before we get there, Brad, do we have a question to answer?Brad Crowell 12:44  We do @creativesoulpilates on Instagram asked, hey LL, are you coming down to the IE anytime soon? IE is Inland Empire, which is Southern California. Basically, it's between Los Angeles and Riverside so, or I think actually, I think actually, Riverside is also considered IE.Lesley Logan 13:04  I think that Riverside is the IE, is it also, is Covina the IE? Brad Crowell 13:07  Covina and West Covina, I think they're south of L.A. I don't think they're technically IE. Lesley Logan 13:12  Like the Orange County. Brad Crowell 13:13  Closer to Orange County, I believe. Lesley Logan 13:14  Well, anyways. Brad Crowell 13:16  If I'm wrong, hit me. Let me know. Lesley Logan 13:20  If you all want to know L.A. well, go watch Everybody's in L.A. Just watch, at least the first episode. Brad Crowell 13:25  You know what, I'm 1,000% wrong. Covina is directly south of Glendora and Azusa, so it's where the 15 cuts down. Nope, it's not the 15. So it's towards Pomona. It's the beginning of IE, West Covina and Covina are like the beginning of the San Bernardino Valley, I think.Lesley Logan 13:46  Well, at any rate, to answer your question, we are not going to be anywhere near the IE, we are going to be in Toluca Lake. I guess that's not far from the IE, but it is. We are going to be, basically, we're in the valley of Los Angeles, close to Burbank. Right? Toluca Lake is like Burbank. Brad Crowell 14:01  Toluca Lake is Studio City, Burbank. It's between the two near Van Nuys, like, yeah. Lesley Logan 14:07  It's gonna be on our West Coast Pop Up Tour. Brad Crowell 14:09  I'm so excited. Lesley Logan 14:10  I know. Brad Crowell 14:11  I freaking love Los Angeles so much, and I cannot wait to just be back. Like, I literally used to live, like, two streets that were from where the studio is.Lesley Logan 14:20  Well, and also, for years, we're actually using the studio that we did the Accessories Flash Card photo shoot at. So I actually got to live in this part of L.A. for a week and now I can say I lived in that part of the valley. It's really, really fun. So we had Strong Body, but it's part of our summer tour. And so you got to come, because here's the deal. We, when we go to L.A. we typically go to hang out with friends, and we pretty much try to avoid working as much as possible, but because we're on tour. Brad Crowell 14:47  It's true. Lesley Logan 14:47  And we want an excuse to see L.A. again, we are making a stop as we're going by so go to opc.me/la for tickets to the L.A. event. Or if you go to opc.me/tour, you'll see San Diego, Santa Barbara. You know, because people who live in L.A. also live very far from the center of L.A., typically, so like Poway, as the San Diego city. So you know, there's some really good stuff. But thanks, you guys. You guys, we have a really easy place for you to send your questions in. You can text us at 310-905-5534, or you can actually submit your questions or a win at beitpod.com/questions. Brad Crowell 15:27  That's right beitpod.com/questions.Lesley Logan 15:28  Now you can just do it there, and it's so easy and you can be anonymous if you want to. You can whatever you want. Brad Crowell 15:36  Well, you know, so for the Friday episodes, we celebrate wins. And now, instead of people sending DMs, you know, fill out this form, it actually makes it easier for you, too. It's clear what it is, and we know what's going on, all the things. So beitpod beitpod.com/questionsLesley Logan 15:54  And you could put your win there too. I know, it's, which we didn't want to have two links. We just want to have one. So it's we could have called it quest wins.Brad Crowell 16:01  Quest wins. We could have, we could have really gone over well with trying to figure out how to spell that. Lesley Logan 16:07  All right. All right.Brad Crowell 16:08  Well, look, stick around, this, we're going to talk about slow living. This, this break will be fast, but the, but the conversation about Stephanie O'Dea is going to be really exciting. So we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 16:21  All right. Now, welcome back. Let's talk about Stephanie O'Dea. She's a writer, she's a coach, she's a teacher and a speaker who helps people embrace slow living. Lesley Logan 16:30  She's a teacher and a speaker. I like how that sounded. Brad Crowell 16:33  She's a teacher, teacher and a speaker. Her journeys began in 2008 on a viral blog where she used her Crock-Pot every single day for an entire year, landed her on national TV and got her a book deal, and that, she said, that journey lasted for about eight years before things really changed with the introduction of the Instant Pot. Fascinating. She said, when that, when that trend rose, she realized faster isn't always better. After stepping back to unplug, she discovered her true gift was helping others reach their goals in a slow, steady and sustainable way, a mission she now shares through her Slow Living podcast. Lesley Logan 17:13  I, so, so first of all, okay, I would just have to say, I was on her pod, and I was like, okay, like, this is great, you know, this is wonderful. And I really enjoyed her. I thought she was so sweet. And then she came on the pod, and, like, I was like, I'm in the presence of, like, a celebrity, like I and I was like, oh my God, she's, I'm sure, like your mom and your grandma and, like all these people, probably like, no, she is. And I'm sitting here going, oh my God, who are you? Oh God.Brad Crowell 17:48  Well, she, not only that, she is really fun. Lesley Logan 17:53  Oh yeah. Brad Crowell 17:53  And, like, snarky, and, you know, like the things that she was saying, she's got a lot of experience. You know, going through life. And I appreciated it, and I enjoyed it. And it was, it was, it was a really great conversation. In fact, I feel like it's probably a conversation, y'all, that you would want to save. So if you have not had a chance to go back and listen, I would recommend it. But. Lesley Logan 18:20  So slow living, you guys, stands for look only within. So, like, trusting your inner voice and intuition to find answers. And I really love that we talked about, like, slow living is meeting your goals. It meets all of them, but it just says it like, as you said in the bio, like in this nice, sustainable way, some of us are, like, really trying to make things happen fast. And this one book that I read every morning was like whenever we're trying to make things happen fast, but it usually means we want to skip ahead. And unfortunately, when you skip ahead, you miss out on like the muscle strength and experience you need for where you're going to go. So then when you get there, not only are you further along than you are strong enough to be, but now you don't have the skill set to handle the problems you have, and so that's why you don't get to skip ahead. So I really do believe it's sustainable to hit your goals in a way that is steady and allows you to evaluate and you and trust your gut intuition. And she said, she encouraged you to decide your next best step when you're in a good mood and not when you're feeling down. And I was like, that is so common sense and fucking brilliant.Brad Crowell 19:24  Yeah. No, that makes total sense. I mean, when we make decisions in a bad place, you know, we're making reactionary decisions. We're not making proactionary decisions. I just wanted to throw out there the 34% Rotten Tomatoes review on an Adam Sandler movie from 2006 called Click. Lesley Logan 19:44  There, okay. Brad Crowell 19:45  Which is exactly what you're just describing. It's all about how he somehow got a magic remote that fast forwarded through what, at the time, he was like all the bullshit so that he can get to what he wants to do in his life.Lesley Logan 20:00  Oh, but then, and then he got there and he missed everything. Brad Crowell 20:03  He missed everything. Lesley Logan 20:04  Yeah, yeah. I was in sixth grade, or fifth grade, when I read a story about a little boy who had this magic string, and he could just pull the string and it could, like, skip ahead. So like, he was, like, not ready for a test, so like, he pulled the string and he like, skipped ahead. Now he's in next grade. And then he, like, pulled the string a little bit more. And then he was in high school and, like, it's the same thing, I think, Click just came from the story of this little kid who pulled the string too much. At any rate, I, I wanted to say, like, going back to the good mood or bad mood. Sometimes when I'm in my email inbox, I start to get a little overwhelmed. Because, like, the only emails I have to respond to often require a little bit of research, of like, they're like, like, someone's asking me to do this event, and I already said I would do it, but I have given them rates before, and they like, want rates again, and they asked for my rates to be lowered, and I but, but they were like, oh, can we get your rates? And also, like, this is our first time so it would be great if you could lower your rates to help us support this event. And I was immediately pissed. I was so pissed off because I was like, what are you talking about? Like, what? And so I was like, and so, you know, I got this email. I'm really behind on my emails. I'm gonna you will have response from me by the end of this week. And I was like, because nothing good is going to come from what I want to say in this moment. And I just need to be able to get angry and feel my feelings, and also go, well, why am I in a bad mood now? Like, what happened? Well, it's not intentional. She personally did not intend to piss me off in any way, but it's the, this is, by the way, guys, this is like a constant, like, I'm asked is my inbox is mostly people asking me to do free things, or to negotiate the rates I say of things and so. Brad Crowell 21:50  Or to partner up, which means. Lesley Logan 21:52  Partner up, which means do it for free. Brad Crowell 21:53  Do it for free. Lesley Logan 21:54  And so, it's, so by the time I got to this email, I had already had gone through like seven people wanting to do things for free, and then this person wants to pay me, but not as much and I was like, I gotta walk away, because I have an appropriate response. I'm sure we can get to a place where it's gonna work for both of us. But I just was angry. And so, so it's always better if you're not in a good place to just like, give yourself a permission. And this goes to slow living, if, if my response to her at the end of the week means she can't work with me, then I don't. It wasn't for me, you know, like, like, slow living, like, I really love what Stephanie's talking about, because we used to live that fast pace. Do, do, do, do, do. We were in Australia, then Spain, then, then New York, then U.K. and it's like, and I don't actually want to do that anymore, and so, so I think it's like, really. Brad Crowell 22:47  We have tried to be more intentional. Before it was like, oh, you're willing to pay us, we'll be there, even if it's like, stupid, you know, for us to travel that way. Lesley Logan 22:56  Also, by the way, when you're new in an industry or new at a thing, I do think that you need to get your feet wet. I do think you need to, I want to make sure, like, I don't want any Pilates instructors like working for free, but I also sometimes you do, and so I think, like, I never flew anywhere for free, but I definitely wouldn't travel for the rates I used to travel on. However, I because I was willing to say yes to things and learn from those experience. I could keep changing my contract had I had my current situation set up now, well, one, I wouldn't know all the things I wouldn't have known all the things that drive me crazy when I travel, and it's like, no, I do need my own hotel room, and I actually do need pistachio milk for my coffee or something like, I know that, what I need, right? I sound like Mariah Carey. But, you know what? I know why Mariah Carey is now like that, because sometimes you don't have what you need, and then you perform at your best and you don't have it. So I wouldn't know all the things that really helped me be the person I am had I not gone through that stuff. So I don't think anyone should skip ahead. But also, at some point you have to go, okay, hold on. Do I need this, right? So anyways, I also just want to say share, to quote, discipline is just choosing between what you want now and what you want most, and just going back to like you saying like now we're more intentional. It's like, it can be really flattering to be asked to do certain things and so, but also, what do we want most? And so is it like, is that part of the most, or is that actually just flattering? And then, you know, so you all have to decide, like, when you're saying yes or doing things like, what is ahead? Is it on the journey what you want most? But I really liked her, her definition, her quote of discipline, because most people think it's like, means like. Brad Crowell 24:41  But she was full of them. Lesley Logan 24:42  She was so, I mean, there's so much stuff I have to go.Brad Crowell 24:45  She defined FOMO as Figure Only Myself Out. Figure Only Myself Out. So, meaning, stop the comparison game, where we're probably scrolling the gram and then beating ourselves up about it, right? And she said, she also said, it's not too late to start now, right? So you can, instead of FOMO, as in, you're missing, you know, you're not doing what they're doing on Instagram. FOMO is figuring only myself out. What do you want to do? You know? How are you going to get you know? What is your path? Where are you going? You know, and you can start to figure that stuff out today. She said, Start pivoting. It's time. Let's do this, right? She also emphasized, setbacks are normal. And she said something that I laughed about, because we are, one of the things that we say a lot in OPC is, if you only have five minutes, just do five moves, you know, like, don't, don't make a big thing out of not having time. And we just had somebody quit the other day, oh, I only was able to log into class once this week, you know, and I'm barely getting to it, right, and so they quit their entire membership, you know. And now I'm, like, thinking that I'm gonna email her back and say, hey, that's okay, you know, like, think about that, even if you came, you know, only five minutes in a week, would it be worth it to start now and be consistent with five minutes and then consistent with 10 minutes.Lesley Logan 26:26  And also, like, what are you going to do without it? You're going to somehow be better at doing your Pilates some, somewhere, somewhere else, no you're not. Brad Crowell 26:33  No, clearly you're not. Clearly, if they can't log in at home, they're obviously not going to a studio to do it, right? Lesley Logan 26:40  And also, some people actually only do it once a week, and that's fine. Like, I only log into Max HBO on Sundays for John Oliver. Like, you know what I mean? Like, and I don't go. So I think we have to stop putting so much pressure on ourselves that it has to be all or nothing. If that's how you're living your life, you're going to miss out on a lot of things.Brad Crowell 26:59  Yeah. And Stephanie said, you know, if you're doing a 30-day challenge, but it takes you 45 days. You did not fail. You still did the challenge. You did it on your time, and that's okay. Lesley Logan 27:12  That's FOMO, Figuring Only Myself Out. Brad Crowell 27:15  That's right, yeah. And she said, you'd be way more proud of yourself for going even if you have to take a day off, right? I was just thinking about the video you showed me last night about the one-legged. Lesley Logan 27:28  The Pope, yes. Brad Crowell 27:29  No, no, but that's funny. The one-legged athlete.Lesley Logan 27:33  Yes, the Nike girl. Brad Crowell 27:35  Yeah, who, the reason that she is now the Nike girl is because she entered herself into a competition. She, she has a, like, a bionic leg. I don't really know what all the right terms are there, but she's, she, she was trying to do a.Lesley Logan 27:54  Looks like a thrust, a clean.Brad Crowell 27:57  Yeah, she was trying to do a clean with a barbell, right, and. Lesley Logan 28:00  That's hard with two legs, I'm just gonna be really honest, and she has one leg that doesn't really bend like her other leg does, so, yeah. Brad Crowell 28:06  So she, so she, she's in the middle of a stadium with all these people, everyone's watching. There's, like, you know, all the things, and she's being filmed, and she doesn't know she's being filmed, and she, she fails. She fails. She like, gets it halfway up and just can't go and drops the bar. And she's frustrated with herself, she's like, okay. Lesley Logan 28:24  She's also starting to cry and really emotional. Brad Crowell 28:27  So she, she drops the bar. Well, she leans back over. She's like, all right, I got it. She, you literally can see her say shit, you know, on this video, right? And, and there's no audio to it, but she's like, shit. So she leans over, and she tries again and she fails again, and it's this point that she, like, totally breaks. Obviously, she's been frustrated all day long, and she breaks, and she literally starts crying, and she and it's super emotional, right? And she leans over and she like, puts her head on her arms, and she, you could see herself make the decision, I'm not going to quit here. I'm going to get this, through this even though I probably have disqualified myself already from whatever this competition is, because I didn't get it up on the first try, I didn't get it up on the second try, and she tries a third time, and she succeeds. And it is like this heartfelt, amazing experience. And I, I have to imagine that she is more proud of herself for finishing, completing it, for being just making the decision to stay with it, than she was, you know, than, obviously, she quit, she would, she'd be beating herself up. Lesley Logan 29:40  Well and I think first of all, I got chills and emotional just like thinking about it, because I like, every time I watch, I've watched it multiple times. And trust me, you guys, she's on a list of like, okay, I gotta email her publicist. I gotta get her on the pod. I have so many questions. But everyday, I talk to women who are beating themselves up for how little they've done, that they think they've done, which, by the way, is more than most people will do in a day, right? And it.Brad Crowell 30:08  Specially moms. Lesley Logan 30:08  Frustrates me, because none, never have you ever shamed yourself into doing the thing you said you were going to do. It doesn't work. That is not how our brains work. Our brains avoid shame and judgment. It doesn't feel good, it doesn't bring your dopamine up. It's not what motivates your brain to do shit. And so we have to do some FOMO, figuring out myself, figuring my own self out, and start congratulating ourselves we did fucking five minutes. You know, like, first of all, if you don't, no one else is. No one else is going to come up and congratulate you on things that they don't know have happened and they won't know have happened. That's why we do the FYFs. And it is, do you know how many people won't share their wins? I don't want to share, it's so small. Okay, but you do understand that that's going to inspire someone else. So, anyways, be nice to yourself. Get the FOMO.Brad Crowell 31:02  Be nice to yourself. Lesley Logan 31:03  The new FOMO. Brad Crowell 31:06  You know, I think that decision to stay with it, to be consistent, will, will be so much more gratifying over the long run, even if it's smaller increments than you know, whatever the prescribed amount is, or whatever that thing is, you know. So, that, I love this FOMO, I love this idea of figuring only myself out. It helps get rid of that comparison energy, you know, and create a safe space for you to succeed in, so, very cool. Very, very cool. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna cover those Be It Action Items from Stephanie O'Dea. Brad Crowell 31:48  Okay, welcome back. Finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What are the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Stephanie O'Dea? She said, hey, funny enough, I'm gonna tell you to journal, but I'm gonna tell you how to journal in a very structured way. Lesley Logan 32:07  I, but I also, it's the only person I let journal, like, say journal, so.Brad Crowell 32:12  So it's funny because, I mean, I've heard Lesley say this about four, well, three, 250 times now, hey, if you're going to tell you know, use journaling as your, your Be It Action Item, you have to give us a structure how to do it. And she started laughing, and she said, I can do that. In fact, she has a free guided daily journaling worksheet that you can print out and you can write on if you go to stephanieodea.com/daily we will put that link in the show notes, but she's a big proponent it gives you structure. It tells you how to journal, what to journal about. It gives you prompts. But she also specifically mentioned that picking up a pen and paper, or pencil and paper, is different than typing on a computer. It just puts you in a different mindset. I mean, she's a writer, right? She got a book deal, she wrote a blog for eight years about cooking, right? She's like, constantly, constantly writing. And so she definitely would know she's the authority. She said that her tool will help you get in the right mindset. It gives you action steps, consistent, and consistency, it builds the muscle of slow, sustainable growth. And she said, your brain engages differently when writing by hand, which I think is interesting, and it helps you move towards your goals, even in off days. Lesley Logan 33:35  And also, your handwriting does not have to be good for it to actually still do the thing it does with your brain. I write things down which I like, which is why I like my reMarkable tablet. I actually don't even need to look at the tablet again. I remember it, but I. Brad Crowell 33:48  That's how I used to study for tests, hard copy my own notes. Lesley Logan 33:51  My nails are too long now, and it's, it's really annoying to type things. I'm like, I'm trying to learn how to type with the nails that.Brad Crowell 33:59  Hi, buddy. Are you trying to learn how to type, too?Lesley Logan 34:01  Yeah, Bayon's learning how to type. He's also truly found his voice this week. He's. Brad Crowell 34:05  It's pretty funny. Lesley Logan 34:06  He's like, oh, I'm gonna bark at this thing. And it's like, never did. Brad Crowell 34:12  Well, yeah. Lesley Logan 34:12  Anyway. Brad Crowell 34:13  His trip to Joshua Tree was a win. Well, you know what one thing that she said that I that I laughed about. She said, look, once you get into a routine, if something changes the routine, it's okay, because you, she said, you are not a spreadsheet. And I was like, oh, that's a really good idea.Lesley Logan 34:37  There's actually a whole study on, you know how, to go back to the long intro we had about politics, there's a study that shows like the more rigid your thinking is, the more likely you are to get stuck in beliefs that are not serving you. And so I'm a big habits coach, mindset coach, all those different things, but you'll notice that, like, I'm always going, giving grace. Giving lots of grace and kind of rolling with it. And I really love what she said here, because I have a morning routine and I have three hours, but, I don't have, oh, I have to be out the door at 6:01, otherwise it's, like, I just get outside. Brad Crowell 35:13  Facing the ice bowl, rub the banana peel, 6:11, take the elevator from 6:17.Lesley Logan 35:20  Yeah, yeah. Brad Crowell 35:21  So dumb. Lesley Logan 35:22  Right? I don't live like that. I do have and I post my schedule of the day with my outfit of the day. I'm like, here's my outfit and here's the schedule. And it might look rigid, but you have to understand, like, most of the things on there take 20 minutes, but I gave it the full hour so that I can be flexible. I can, I can roll with it. If I need to have a little bit more time with something, if I want to take a longer walk, I can. If I have longer Pilates, I take a shorter walk. And so by not being rigid, allows my habits and routines be very malleable and to serve me and what I need that day. And I think that's really important. We're not a spreadsheet. Okay, there's so many, you guys have to listen to the episode because I'm, she actually gave us so many Be It Action Items, to be honest. So I'm just gonna take a few. Celebrate your process, even if it's not linear. We actually have talked about that 17 times on this episode already today. So you celebrate your process, even if, it won't be linear, it is impossible. It never is, don't, you don't have to read the book. Go look at the cover of the book, called The Middle. The Messy Middle. It's bright yellow. When you see the graph, that graph of it going up down, up down, up down. It's like a heart rate monitor, and it's going up, but it's always going up, even though it might go down way lower than it did. And it goes up, Brad's looking at it right now, down, up, down. But like.Brad Crowell 36:34  It's not even a graph. It's like a squiggly line that goes in a square, in a circle and a triangle. Lesley Logan 36:38  Yeah, but if you take a bigger picture, it goes to the end. It's always going up. It's like the stock market. The stock market is not linear on the app, it goes up and down, up and down, up and down. But guess what? It always ends up. It's up, right? So hopefully, I don't know what it is today, guys. Anyways, she also said, use gold stars, stickers or a visible chart to track your small wins. Yes, it's a behavior from childhood, charts from childhood, but it's very important. You need to see it visibly. And then she said, choose non-food rewards, like a cozy nap or a pedicure or something like that. Like the things that you feel like are indulgent and you would never do, those should be your rewards. Make a list of them. That's what my therapist really had me do. And then she also reminded us, you can absolutely get to where you want to go, but you have to trust in yourself that you can do that and you'll get there when you get there. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 37:29  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 37:29  Thank you so much for listening. What a longer recap we had today. We were very chatty, so we hope you enjoyed it. Send your questions and your wins in we want to celebrate them. And we want to answer your questions. So beitpod.com/questions and then make sure you share this episode with a friend, especially the Slow Living episode, because Stephanie has, obviously, so many great tips. She is amazing. And check out her journaling prompts. I know I am. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 37:53  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 37:55  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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In this episode, Lesley Logan talks with Stephanie O'Dea—New York Times bestselling author, viral blogger, and now a slow living coach—about what it really means to live intentionally. From building a wildly successful crockpot recipe blog to burning out on hustle culture, Stephanie shares how tuning in, slowing down, and redefining success helped her create a life she actually wants to live. This is a must-listen for anyone who's tired of chasing someone else's version of success and ready to start trusting themselves again.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Stephanie's slow cooker challenge became a bestselling brand.Why she walked away from hustle culture to embrace slow living.How redefining success helped her build a life she actually enjoys.Why slow living isn't about doing less, but about doing what matters.How to release guilt and build intentional routines aligned with your values. Episode References/Links:Stephanie O'Dea's Website - https://stephanieodea.comFree Daily Journaling Worksheet - stephanieodea.com/dailyStephanie O'Dea's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/stephanieodeaStephanie O' Dea Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/StephanieODea.authorSlow Living Book by Stephanie O'Dea - https://a.co/d/dK5en1ySlow Living Podcast - https://stephanieodea.com/podcastGretchen Rubin's Four Tendencies by Gretchen Rubin - https://a.co/d/gQ5ToVpGuest Bio:Stephanie O'Dea is a New York Times bestselling author, speaker, and coach specializing in Slow Living. With a background in social work, early childhood education, and trauma-informed yoga, she offers a holistic approach to wellness. Through her books, coaching, and Slow Living podcast, Stephanie helps people slow down, reconnect with their purpose, and create sustainable balance. Her latest book, Slow Living: Cultivating a Life of Purpose in a Hustle-Driven World, reflects her mission. She lives in the San Francisco Bay Area with her husband, three daughters, and a basset hound named Sheldon. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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You don't need bro culture or internet marketers to tell you what you should be doing. If you're slow and calm, the answers kind of bubble up.Lesley Logan 0:19  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:01  Hey, Be It babe, how are you? Okay, I promise you you've never heard about a living like this before, and our guest today is like the queen of what she does. I'm gonna let her tell you what she does, but I'm gonna tell you right now, I wanna live next to this woman. I want her to be my neighbor. I want her to be a friend that I can just call. I am going to save this episode just so I can hear the end of it over and over and over again, especially on the days that I need to hear it. You guys, Stephanie O'Dea is our guest today, and if you think that name sounds familiar, it's because it will. You'll hear about that in a second. And I am just so obsessed. This interview is kind of one of the reasons why I'm like, oh my god. I love that I get to do this podcast. I am feel like the luckiest girl in the world, because I get to learn from these amazing guests, and then I get to share that with you. And so y'all, buckle up, take a deep breath, slow down. This episode is gonna rock your world in the best way. Lesley Logan 1:58  All right, Be It babe. This is gonna be really exciting. I think we've never had this topic before. I'm always interested when there's something new, a new way for us to be it till we see it. And today's guest is Stephanie O'Dea. Can you tell us, everyone, who you are and what you rock at?Stephanie O'Dea 2:11  Absolutely, I'm Stephanie O'Dea, and I write, coach, teach and speak about all things slow living. Lesley Logan 2:18  Okay, right. Stephanie O'Dea 2:20  I know. I promise I'm not just sitting on the couch, twiddling my thumbs, eating Bonbons, doing nothing. I promise there's a method to the madness. Lesley Logan 2:28  Yeah, obviously we're all intrigued, like, what is slow living? But maybe we need to know what that is before we can figure out how you got to doing slow living. So we're also on the same page, yeah.Stephanie O'Dea 2:38  Yeah. So I look at slow living as meeting your goals, all of them, your personal and your professional goals, in a slow, steady and sustainable way. And if we can circle and highlight and underline and put some pointers at sustainable, that's what it's at. Because I think we all know the feeling of being gung-ho. And I'm going to do this now, and I'm gonna eat this way, and I'm gonna work out this way, and I'm gonna get up at at 3 a.m. and I'm gonna have rock star abs at the end of the week. Lesley Logan 3:09  Oh yeah. Stephanie O'Dea 3:09  Yeah. And spoiler alert, if you're listening, chances are you're a human and not a robot. And well, who knows, the robots may be taking over, but in real life, people have ups and downs and all arounds and variables they can't control. So slow living, first off, has an acronym attached to it. I'm a super nerd when it comes to acronyms, and that's because my grandpa, when I was about seven, told me that the word SNAFU had the F word hiding in it, so it's situation normal, all effed up, like he told me, he told me, when I was seven, he actually said that, the bad word out loud. And I'm like, grown ups hide bad words in regular words. And so, like, since then, I've nerded out with acronyms. So slow living, slow is simply look only within and it's the idea that you actually have the answers, and you don't need to be saved. You don't need bro culture or internet marketers to tell you what you should be doing. If you're slow and calm, the answers kind of bubble up. So it's a big part of listening to your inner voice, to your inner gut, to your intuition, and then taking action on it. So the three-step success formula is mindset plus action plus consistency equals success. And so the new, yeah, the new book is broken up that way. And the idea is, when you're in a good mood, just ask yourself, like, what's the next best step for me to take? And then go quiet and listen, because you know the answer is inside. The answer is not going to be on a doom stroll of TikTok. It's legit inside of you, and you know what you're supposed to do. And then just do the thing over and over and over again, and even when you don't want to. Lesley Logan 5:03  I love this so much because I love that you put consistency in there. The only way to be consistent is if you actually are at a pace that you can consistently do. We were in Singapore the other day. I picked a bike taxi and the car, I was trying to figure out what's going on because the guy was driving the car, it would go, whoo. You know where your whole body moves like someone's taking off too fast at a red light, and then it would slow down, and then it would go like that again. And was like, literally for 16 minutes, the body was going like this, and like this, and like this. We were on the freeway, but I felt like urgency to leave the intersection, and then a hard -ish break but not a full break. And I got a headache. I got sick. Brad felt nauseous. I was like, I hope we don't get that cab going to dinner. Like, I cannot be in that car again. That's the idea of you can't be consistent at a pace like that, because you can't, your body doesn't do well, your brain doesn't do well. And so being consistent is so key to having the things that we want. But I also love you add, like, listening to yourself, because it's really hard to do that when you're kind of going too fast, like, you don't have time when everything is chaotic. How did you get into doing this? Like, were you born working slow? Stephanie O'Dea 6:07  No, no, I'll tell you my back story, but I got to tell you, my mom drives that way, and now my kids don't want to get in the car with her. They're like, I always feel sick when I drive with grandma so. Lesley Logan 6:17  Okay, so there's, I literally was looking at his leg. I'm like, is he doing this, or does he is it like the car is like, oh, there's a car that's too close. Like, I don't, could not figure out what's going on. Stephanie O'Dea 6:26  I think my mom is full acceleration, and then foot off, and then full acceleration, and then foot off. And there's a happy medium there. So what's interesting about my backstory is I got started writing online crock pot recipes, crock pot slow cooker recipes. Lesley Logan 6:42  Okay, I definitely was wondering if slow living meant, like, like, slow cooker. Stephanie O'Dea 6:46  Yeah, so, so, yeah. So, I'm very Google-able, but I got my start in 2008 because I made a New Year's resolution to follow through on using my crock pot slow cooker every day for a year and writing about it online. And it, it took off. It went viral. Lesley Logan 7:02  I've heard of you. You are Google-able.Stephanie O'Dea 7:07  Yeah. So, when (inaudible) funny, because 2008 depending on how old you are when you're listening, that could sound like a long time ago or not that long time ago, but at the time it legit, was the first crock pot recipe site written by like a normal person, and it went crazy. I made yogurt. I invented, like, quote-unquote, invented lots of things, and because of that, I ended up on national television multiple times. Good Morning America, Rachel Ray Show did all the magazines and got a book deal. It worked great. At its peak, it was making $1,000 a day just in banner ads, and it was amazing. So the good news is is I understand mathing and I understand the Internet, so I knew what goes up must eventually come down. And so that absolutely did in about 2016 with the Instant Pot. And so my book publishers and agent, they're like, you should translate all your recipes. So I bought one, and I hated the thing. I get it. The tech part is fun. Yay for the scientists for discovering that they can cook a frozen chicken in 45 minutes. But for me, what I liked about the crock pot is I could put it on the morning, I'm highly caffeinated and coherent, I push a button and then I never think about dinner again. So it eliminated a whole bunch of decision fatigue, and it just was lovely, because cooking is great, but I'm not going to get a Zen moment chopping an onion. I'm just not. Some people are, great, no, but for me, it's a chore. Lesley Logan 8:41  I see you. You are seen.Stephanie O'Dea 8:44  Yeah. So anyway, I got fired. I got fired, and I had this like, sort of voice of God, of like, hey Steph, just because you can do something fast, it doesn't mean you should. And so I spent some time away from the internet, I sort of unplugged everything for a while. And one really lovely, amazing thing about passive income is even when you're not working, it works for you. So I was in a very privileged state that I could kind of pontificate what the next best step for me to take was, and I realized that following through on my resolution, following through on all of the goals that I've always had for myself has been my secret sauce. Writing crock pot recipes was really just a way to feed the internet. And so that's how the slow living podcast got started, and how I started working with women from all over the world to help them meet their goals in a slow, steady and sustainable way.Lesley Logan 9:40  I'm obsessed with this because I think it's because here's what I love about this. I was like, Oh, I wonder if slow living means, like, slow cooker. And then I was, I don't even use my Instapot. Do you see how, like, I put the two together, even though they're not. Thank you for educating me. I clearly.Stephanie O'Dea 9:52  Gold stars, Lesley, gold stars. Lesley Logan 9:53  I am not the person who cooks in this household. I think that's pretty evident. I was just like, oh. And then I but I was reading all the stuff and I was like, oh, but, like, we're talking about goals, and I'm like, totally in on this, how this works. So, but I love that the intuitiveness was there, so that's really great. But the other reason I love this is that you are the perfect example of how you get started and what you have done in the past. That's not that it has to ever end, but also that you can evolve from it. And it doesn't have to be like the next pie over, which is the Instant Pot. It could be like all the way on the other side of the pie and be like something that's different, but they're not. They're the same. Stephanie O'Dea 10:27  No, absolutely I and it's funny. So I have three kids, and I'm constantly telling them like you are your own person, in your own entity. Sure, Dad and I might have ideas for you, but you get to decide. And every year, people get so excited about New Year's resolutions and different things and the idea that they can reinvent themselves, and then they have the first few dismissive thoughts of, well, I can't do that, or, Oh, this is too hard. And so then they give up. And the fact is, if we're lucky, life is long. Sure, you could get hit by a bus tomorrow, but don't live your life thinking that instead, where are you going to be in your 50s, your 60s and your 70s? I mean, I work with women of all ages and stages. If you want to crawl around on the floor in your 70s with your grandchildren and do yoga and have, I don't know, prize-winning tulips. Start now. Start setting the stage now, and plant those metaphoric seeds to get you from where you are to where you want to goLesley Logan 11:29  You are correct. As a Pilates instructor, one of the things that people like when should I get started? I'm like, well, yesterday was a better day, but that's fine, we'll start now. Because I've had people come to me at 70 going, I'm in aches and pains. I've got this thing, and now I've got a hump on my back, and I'm like, so the time to prevent the hump was like, 20 years ago. So there's not much I can do now that you're in that position, but here's what I can do to keep you upright so you can play with your grandchildren. And people don't realize, and they wait until they realize they weren't hit by a bus earlier, and then they're like, now it changes. And that's not that it's ever too late, but there's just some things that if we got started sooner and when we went more consistently, we went more slowly, we took our time handling the obstacles and the setbacks and reevaluating that we would actually get to where we wanted to go, I guess, faster.Stephanie O'Dea 12:15  So it's true. I mean, it's legit. The metaphor of the tortoise and the hare just slow, steady and stay on track. And so that's why I like that mindset, action, consistency formula is when you're in a good mood, don't make up rules for yourself when you're in a bad mood, because you're just punishing yourself. But when you're in a good mood, decide what the next steps are, and a lot of it is putting blinders on and not worrying about what other people are doing. So if you're listening to this right now and you're thinking, well, Lesley got to be in Singapore last week, and I'm wasn't in Singapore last week, and my life sucks. So okay, you are playing your own game. So again, because I am such an acronym junkie, I rewrote FOMO to figure only myself out you play your game, and if Singapore is not in your cards right now, okay, great, but maybe put it on a vision board and maybe start saving and start pivoting to have that come to fruition. But it doesn't mean you've done anything wrong if you never had the thought like six or eight months ago or a year ago when Lesley decided to go to Singapore, you weren't there yet. So if you're there now, okay, great, start pivoting and make that way. And same with the hump on your back. If you're like, oh, okay, I do want to be that person in my 70s. But actually really like my nightly wine, and I like doom scrolling, and I caught up on all of the seasons of younger and now I don't know what to do with myself. Okay, then, then go do some stretches and start working on it in a very slow, steady and sustainable way. Lesley Logan 13:55  You're absolutely correct. And I have a funny story about the Singapore thing. You guys, normally, when we fly to Cambodia for our retreat, we always choose the shortest. Doesn't everybody, when you want to go, you want to get to where you want to go when you're traveling. So it's like the shortest. Well, ever since the pandemic and the way the flight paths have changed, it has been twice as much to fly to Cambodia as it usually is, and it irritates me, because I know it's not that expensive. Double is not the right price. So my assistant presented like three options, and the two shortest options were $1,500 per person, round trip, 23 hours of travel, still a lot, still full day, exhausting. But then there was a flight that was 31 hours of travel. It was $500 cheaper per person, and it had a 13 hour layover in Singapore. And in Singapore, you can leave the airport. You can apply for the day visa. It's so easy to do. You do it online. And we were landing in time to go to dinner, and I was like, wouldn't it be cool to go to Singapore for dinner? And here's the thing you guys, it wasn't about saving $500 it was about enjoying the trip to Cambodia. Because I'm like, this is I don't I'm so tired of being tired when I get there. And so I thought, let's just see what it's like. Instead of having six hours, which is not enough time to leave an airport and just walk, do laps in the airport, what if we had 13 and we went to dinner and we slept in a hotel and then we got up and we flew the next place? You guys. I loved it. I loved it. I had two on the way into Cambodia. I did dinner in Singapore on the way out. We did dinner in Singapore. Fabulous. I felt like it was so luxurious. It felt so it felt so it felt like I was like a first class traveler. So anyways, that's my share on evaluating doing things a little differently. Your FOMO, like, figure my own self out. I'm tired when I get there. What? What can I do? So that's my little tip there. But I want to highlight that you said, make the decisions when you're in a good mood, because you're correct. People are punishing themselves when they're like, you don't feel good, you feel exhausted, you hate your job, and then you're like, I'm gonna do this. And it's like, it is a punishment. I never thought about it like that. Stephanie O'Dea 15:49  Yeah, no, it's true. I mean, and especially since you're in the fitness realm, the idea of, I'm gonna force myself to do this workout every day, no matter what, with the idea that if I skip a day because I'm sick or I don't feel well, or the toilet overflowed, or the kid had a bloody nose in the middle of the night, I failed. No, no. So I tell people all the time, if you're embarking on a 30-day challenge and it takes you 45 days to do the 30 days, you're not graded, you're not to be in trouble, you're the grown up in the room. You only fail when you completely and totally decide to give up. But but keep going and think of yourself at, again, as that 70 year old, you would be way more proud of yourself for keeping going, even if you have to take a day off here and there. And that's a big part of the sustainability, part of slow living. Lesley Logan 16:48  During the pandemic. I got really interested in, like, some people create habits, and how do they not I don't know if you've read Gretchen Rubin's Four Tendencies, like having meet expectations. So I thought, well, I'm an upholder. That's easy for me. But what about the rest of the people? As a fitness person who wants people to move, and I always tell people do what's possible. Finishing is optional. Why aren't they listening? Why can't they listen and what's going on? And I got to sit at BJ Fogg, and he talked about these tiny habits. And it's crazy to see how people legitimately cannot do the tiny habit. They actually are like, it's not enough to just put my shoes on. It's like, but you don't go to the gym now. So you're asking yourself to put out the gym clothes early. Pack a gym bag, get everything on, drive to the gym, find a parking space, enter the gym, put the bag in a locker, do the work of oh, you forgot your towel, so now you're gonna be late for work. Otherwise, now you have to leave early, and it's just all we're asking ourselves to do such huge leaps and bounds before we've actually created the ability to do that consistently, and then we fail ourselves. And it's like even when you went to school, you didn't get the F until the end of this the whole semester to get a better grade.Stephanie O'Dea 17:57  Yeah, no, it's true. I mean, when people come to me with those kind of obstacles. First off, I definitely have squirrel brain. I have lots and lots and lots of markers of ADHD. And every time I talk to anyone, because I can talk myself well, I write and I speak so I know how to talk to people. And they're like, you don't have ADHD. I'm like, that's fine. Just, just help me, but, but the only reason I found out is I've got one in grad school, and so she's applying for law school, and so needing to sit for the LSATs and that kind of stuff. All of these things came up. I'm like, there's nothing wrong with you. You're just like me. And I'm like, oh, wait.Lesley Logan 18:33  Right, right. Stephanie O'Dea 18:34  But anyway, as far as that, when I'm working with people who can't break things down in a bite-sized chunk, and they get overwhelmed. Or halfway through the assignment, they're already moved on to something else. We gamify the system. And so earlier, when I gave you gold stars, I legit hand out gold stars if you did something, give yourself a sticker, like, like those old school chore charts on the wall where you're giving yourself a happy face absolutely pay off and then reward yourself. Maybe not if you're trying to do a fitness routine, maybe not with like a hot fudge sundae, but maybe with a pedicure, or maybe with an afternoon off work for no reason except for you want to take a really cozy Bougie nap, and you you have your your weighted throw, and then you're just so happy. That is a reward, and that's something that you can look forward to, but definitely game the system. Lesley Logan 19:33  Yeah, I love gamify. I love a reward, or like something tactical that you can do, like some sort of celebration. But I also want to highlight hi, I also was someone who didn't think that ADHD, and I was like, oh, my husband, my husband has ADHD, right? Because that's where all the symptoms. And he, like, is legit, like, model of a male with ADHD. And we were applying for a business license, type of a thing, like some sort of certificate, and the woman who files the paperwork, I met her, and so we're talking, and she like, okay, you have your women in business certification I'm like, yeah, we've got that. She's like, okay, where's your disability certificate? And I'm like, I'm so sorry I don't have a disability. And she goes, Well, you have ADHD. And I was like, oh, my husband does, but I own the business for the women in business owners, so I don't have she's like, no. She's like, you just haven't been tested girl. You have ADHD. I can see all of it. And I started looking up women signs of ADHD. I absolutely have it, so I'm with you, and we forget how we figured out how we can make our lives work. And so I just want to highlight to anyone listening, if you have ADHD, and that's a reason why it's a problem for you to, like, finish the thing you've started. There is a superpower that you can tap into once you acknowledge it and like you look into how can you work best for yourself? And it's, it is not through punishment ever. Stephanie O'Dea 20:47  Yeah, no, it's, it's celebrating your process. So because I'm a writer, this is the 11th book I've written, I know my process, so I no longer beat myself up. I know for a fact I don't miss deadlines, so that's great news for me, but I also know that I'm not linear. I am up and down and all around and if I have a brainstorm at 3am it's better for me to get up and write any of those how to be a successful published author checklists that they show on the internet for clickbait. That's not me, and that's not really any of us. That's marketing hype that's trying to get you to click. If you've been online long enough I'm certain you have clicked on something only because you were feeling a little anxious, maybe a little vulnerable, and you're like, oh, the answers to my prayer. But the fact is, the answers are inside and with you. And it's not going to come from doom scrolling TikTok. It's going to come when you're calm and you're in a good mood and you're like, okay, I am not feeling the best right now. Not going to gaslight myself. I legit do not feel good in my brain and my body right now. What is the next best step for me to take and then going quiet and then doing what it is, chances are your brain is going to say you need more water, you need to cut back on wine. You need to stay away from Jane down the street, because she makes you feel really shitty. Can I say shitty? Sorry.Lesley Logan 22:19  No, I love it. We love it. And, yeah, stay away from Jane. Stephanie O'Dea 22:23  Yeah, no, just like you, you know, you know. And I get it because, I mean, I met Lesley online. We're all trying to carve our own little niche out. But the thing is, is you're more vulnerable and you're more susceptible to following advice made up by, by stupid businessy. I'm gonna say men, just for lack of a better term, bro marketers, when you're feeling down on yourself. Lesley Logan 22:50  Yeah, it's really interesting, because I, just before I came on this I had a YouTube comment, and it was on a video that was like the best Reformers to buy for home, and I, look, I hate the title because it's that clickbaity title, but I promised myself, okay, I have to do the titles that they want, because these are the things that people will click on. But I can be honest, right? And so I was completely honest about how I don't love the Reformers that are $300 because I know that a quality Reformer costs $4,800 why do they cost $4,800 because they're not made of plastic, because they're made of metal, they're made of wood. It takes, it takes a long time to make them. And they last decades, right? They last decades. And these cheaper ones, while they look very similar to the ones you're seeing in studios, I don't know what the weight requirements are. I don't know if you can stand on them and they have, I don't know that they have the same safety mechanism. So then you're going to take my classes or someone else's classes, and, like, I don't know. So I was very clear of like, here's what I would say. So it ended with, there is not an affordable one. Like, it just isn't. But here are all the things you can do. So this person wrote, okay, so great, so just don't give me a cheaper option so that I could modify the exercises to do the thing. And she was on and on, and she was so angry with me that I wouldn't give her a cheap one to buy. So I actually wrote back right away, because I was like, so you need a car. You need a car that can get you to work, and the car that would be the best gas mileage for you, that would not require any maintenance, it actually has the best safety standards. It's outside of your budget right now. So instead, you would like me to sell you a car that gets the worst gas mileage, that needs maintenance every week, that breaks down on you on your way to work. And so instead of actually getting to work on time, you're now taking the bus anyways, when you could have just waited and taken the bus in the first place until you could afford the car that has the best gas all these things. I'm so sorry I refuse to sell you crap, and I know that's frustrating, but no, I don't want you modifying exercises to make the equipment, because then you're not gonna get the benefits. It just makes me think of this stuff like people. Have gotten to this place that now have gotten so they've now been trained so much by the clickbait they want to be sold the quick, fast thing, but that's not gonna get what you want. So I'm not gonna sell it to you. And it's really, really hard because I you and I are people like we want to be honest with people on the internet. I want a relationship with you whenever I tell you that this is the right thing, that you can trust that it's the right thing. And it's really hard in a world everyone's go so fast they want the thing today, and they'll rather buy the cheap thing than the thing that will get them there. How do you get people out of wanting it quickly? I guess we can help people who don't want to be helped. Stephanie O'Dea 25:35  Yeah. So, so we're recording right now, and I know you are captivating the the video. So this is a standard bedroom that happens to have cabinetry filled filled with crock pots, by the way. But on the other side of the room, I have a framed print, and it says, discipline is just choosing between what you want now and what you want most. And that's the thing. Slow your roll, peeps, slow your roll and have a little bit of discipline. We teach children that patience is a virtue. Practice that be that there's a reason why Buddhist monks and people who meditate a lot and do lots of yoga and meditation are calmer is because they have quieted their squirrel brain, and they have delayed gratification enough to know that while sitting in a meditative stance for 10, 20, 30 minutes isn't as quick as a fix as I don't know, taking some drug or down and a half bottle of Wine, but the end goal, if you do it over and over and over again, is so much better. So I'm going to repeat it. Discipline is choosing between what you want now versus what you want most, and keep that most in your mind when you are scrolling, so then you can have that thought of great for them, not for me, right? Great for them, good everyone's everyone is allowed to make money. Everyone's allowed to make money. Great for them. Good for them. They're, they're gaming the algorithm. Good for them, good for them, good for them, not for me. And then now, now I'm going to coach you for a second, Lesley, because I think you're adorbs. I too, get the click bait thing. I know how to play the game. I know when I was writing recipes that it would be way better for me to say this is the world's easiest and best pot roast recipe you'll ever have, better than your grandma blah blah blah. And the fact is pot roast is pot roast, is pot roast, is pot roast. And if you put in paprika versus liquid smoke or blah blah blah, it doesn't really truly matter in the great, big, huge scheme of things. But the hope is you get someone to click, and then that someone gets to know you and see your video and read your writing and connect with you and say, Okay, I get what Lesley is doing here. It's fine. I'm going to cut her some slack. And that's another great, big thing that I would love for us to do online is to remember that there are real humans there, and give people the gift of grace. And sometimes we mess up. I messed up, and the hope is that when I do, I apologize and I acknowledge it, and then I try and better myself. If I don't try and better myself, that's where the problem is, and that's where the disconnect is, and that's not you. You are amazing. Lesley Logan 28:26  Yeah. Well, thank you, and thank you for seeing me, and it is so interesting world out there that we live in. I like to think that everyone's doing it the best way that they can when they know how, you know, I would give that grace, and I think that the more of us who could do that would be the world be a better place. But I think that, you know, we have to just keep doing it. And I agree, like, when we all make mistakes and it's like you get to apologize, and if people can't accept that, it's almost better that they we find out now so they can go away.Stephanie O'Dea 28:53  Totally. It's funny. I'm intolerant now to people who can't own mistakes and apologize and so so again, back to my crazy ego. My crazy acronyms. The acronym for ego is Edging God Out. And regardless of your religious belief, the idea that you are the Almighty and know everything and aren't humble and don't have enough humility to acknowledge a mistake is a big problem. So so check your ego. Just check it, because everybody's shit stinks. They really do.Lesley Logan 29:26  I'm obsessed with you already. You mentioned stopping the scroll a few times, and I think that that is definitely a hard problem for a lot of people, like even people who don't even have to post on the internet for a job. My mom does not have to post on the internet at all, and she but she has a scrolling problem, right? And I even, because I have to open up and talk to the people and respond to comments and all that stuff, I found myself yesterday picking up my phone after the end of the workday to go check and I was like, hold on, I'm not working right now. And I had to, like, literally, put my phone across the room and pick up a book instead. And I was like, what would make reading this book more pleasurable? I liked it all the things, you know, heard different guests say, oh, I'll make it more pleasurable if I was sitting in front my red light. Okay, I'll sit from my red light. I'm gonna do this thing. And I read a book for like, 45 minutes. It was so lovely. It felt so good. I went to bed. I slept so good last night because I did not scroll. But I think it's an addiction that people have to just pick up when they're bored. So how do you stop your scroll? Stephanie O'Dea 30:22  Yeah, so, so first off, you are definitely not alone, and I've been working online for probably a lot longer than you are, because I'm probably a lot older than you are. So one thing I needed to do for myself, and this is only for people who work online, probably is it's not on my phone. My phone is for phone stuff, and work stays work stays on the computer. So and for me, social media is work. It's not pleasurable. It's not fun. In real life, I want to talk to my friends on the phone, text with my friends in real life. So there's that. And then as far as normal, regular, everyday people who have the old school FOMO, and think that they will miss out on staff, schedule it in, time block it. So I'm a huge proponent of time blocking, and the way I teach it is to decide, on purpose that your day is kind of set up like a school day. So think back in high school you are not going to finish your history book in first period. You're just not but the good news is, you'll have first period every day, so schedule in what it is you want to do every day, so you don't have that feeling of having to catch up, because spoiler alert, you will never catch up on social media, they have designed it to be never, ever, ever ending. But if your allotted amount of time, and my suggestion, would be in 10-minute chunks. 10 minutes, set a timer. Love bossing Siri around. She will just set timers for me all day long, and then scroll, do what it is you need to do, and then step away with the idea that it's going to be okay, because you're going to revisit this time block again tomorrow, and it's fine. Lesley Logan 32:01  Oh my gosh. Stephanie O'Dea, I just, I love you, and I love that. I love that permission. Like, it's not like, don't do it. Or it's not like, only you get five minutes a day. It's like, oh, just schedule a few 10-minute blocks. And it's true. You guys walk around this house at any moment. Brad is like, Siri, set a timer for seven minutes, Siri, remind me to do this tomorrow like. Stephanie O'Dea 32:24  I love Siri. I So, so first off, I love the idea of a live-in personal helper. So the fact is that she's in my back pocket all the time is amazing and and I'm very nice to her in case the robots do take over the world. I thank her. Yeah, tell her she's pretty Yeah, just in case you never know. Lesley Logan 32:41  You are better than I. Brad was talking to my Siri the other day, and he was connected to my phone, and he was like, hey Siri, and he's like, she started answering like I told her to fuck off the other day, and she's not come back. So I think that's my fault. You know, when, like, she wasn't understanding me, she kept talking when I wasn't winder and I was just like, fuck off, and she never came back. So I, I don't know. I don't know. Stephanie O'Dea 33:06  Okay, so does that mean you have to, like, go back in the settings and actually turn her back on?Lesley Logan 33:09  I think so. I think that's where we're at. There's an update that's gonna happen tonight. I'm hoping she goes back. At any rate.Stephanie O'Dea 33:18  If she's listening to me right now. I love you, Siri. I'm like, thank you. You're fine.Lesley Logan 33:23  They are and you are correct. I need to be nicer, because the robots are going to take over, and hopefully they just give us permission to keep doing what we love. All right. I could talk to you for hours, but we're gonna take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you and work with you. Lesley Logan 33:38  All right, Stephanie O'Dea, where do you hang out? Where can people just become a more obsessed with you?Stephanie O'Dea 33:44  So I'm a real person. You can email me at any time, and I will write back to you, steph@stephanieodea.com, that's the main site is stephanieodea.com. I do have a slow living podcast, and the new book is called Slow Living: Cultivating a Life of Purpose in a Hustle-Driven World, and that's wherever books are sold. Lesley Logan 34:02  Oh my God, I'm gonna read it. I'm so excited. I feel like, so blessed that we all got to talk like, even think about this and your acronyms are amazing. They're, I mean, you know that already, but they are amazing. And I know several listeners who, because I, I'm lucky enough to get to meet our listeners all the time, and they mention different episode numbers and like, I know this is one that they're going to use, because there's such tangible things that they can do to just take time to listen their body and do what's next? What's the best next thing? You've given us a lot, but you know, we love the the Be It Action Items, the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted, steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Stephanie O'Dea 34:40  So it's interesting. Before we hit record you were talking about, don't tell people to journal unless you like, tell them how to journal. So I have a guided daily journaling worksheet, and you can download it. It's super, super free, stephanieodea.com/daily D- A-I-L-Y and and people write to me and they're like. I don't do anything else except for this worksheet, and what it does is it helps, again, get you in the right mindset, because it's putting you in a good mood because you're journaling, and then it's helping you move forward on all of your personal and professional goals. So the action steps and then doing it every day, using that muscle creates the consistency that you need for success. Lesley Logan 35:19  So the reason I say I tell guests like, please don't tell them to not journal, because some people say just journal every day. And then I get what do I journal? The reason I know that this is true is because my therapist had told me back in 2020 when I started therapy, I was like, think this is going to be a really long time that we're doing this, so I think I'm going to need to do some therapy. And she said, okay, I want you to journal every day. So the next week I got on, I was like, so what was I supposed to put in the journal? How do I start? Is it a letter? Because I'm an overthinker and a recovering perfectionist, and so I love that you are like, here is a simple worksheet that you can do to journal, because it gives people an idea of how to make the journal work for them. Because I do believe that journaling works. You just, if you don't know what you're doing, it can feel overwhelming.Stephanie O'Dea 36:00  Absolutely and what I like about this worksheet, and it's, it's a printable, guys, so people have tried to put it in a Google form, and that kind of stuff, your brain is different when you're using a pen and paper. And so that's why there's definitely a method to the madness. And I want you to slow down like, hello, spoiler alert, I legit, I want you to slow down. And then also you're collecting data, so you then you can look back and on the worksheet, I ask you what day or cycle you're in, because that's a big deal. So if you're like, how come I walked it last Wednesday? Well maybe it's because you were on day 15, and now you're on day 28 and you hate the world that is important, and that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with you, because you are not a spreadsheet, and anyone who says anything, and usually they're bro marketers that you have to like improve yourself by 1% every day, or you're doing it wrong. No, no, because humans have ups and downs and all around and if I can give you any parting words of wisdom, it would be that I just want to hug you and tell you that you're doing a great job and there's nothing wrong with you, and you absolutely can get to where you want to go, but you have to trust in yourself that that you can do the things and then just you'll get there when you get there. Lesley Logan 37:20  I mean, I already thought this is going to be an episode that people would hit save on but, and like, replay just to re listen. But I really think they'll just do that, just for that last part right there, like you're doing a great job. Like we all need Stephanie O'Dea to tell us you're doing a great job. I love that your journal has people put the day of the cycle. Because, yes, we've been talking about that a lot, because that affects how you work out all the different things. And it is true, you are going to have days where you can take over the world, and days where you're like, I just if someone talks to me at all, I'm going to lose my mind.Stephanie O'Dea 37:49  Yeah, yeah. No, it's true. So I've been married 25 years, and sometimes, thankfully, I can just tell Adam. So today's not a day for you to actually engage with me. He's like, oh, okay. Thanks, thanks for the warning. You're breathing wrong today. Sorry. You fix that and circle back around.Lesley Logan 38:11  Yeah, I said to Brad, I said, I don't feel awesome today. He goes, it's the day before your period. You're not going to feel awesome. And I was like, thank you. That's right. That's why I married you. He didn't go, of course, you're awesome. He just was like, You're not just not gonna feel it. And it's like, yeah, thank you. Ah, okay, well, clearly I want to keep talking to you, but we'll do that another day. Stephanie O'Dea, thank you so much for being here, you guys. How are you using these tips in your life? Please, tag Stephanie. Tag the Be It Pod. Tell us how you're slow living. Share this with a friend who needs it. Imagine if all of your friends were like acting in the FOMO in the best way, and they were actually listening to themselves and taking some time. Imagine how much easier that would make your life. So share this with the friends in your life who need them. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 39:02  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. 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In this FYF episode, Lesley Logan highlights community member victories, reflects on inspiring quotes from iconic women, and shares her personal joy in retraining their dog, Bayon. Each story is a reminder that even everyday moments can be deeply empowering. Let this episode encourage you to notice, honor, and celebrate your own wins.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Hello, Be It babe. Happy June 13th. Oh my God, it's Friday the 13th. That's so exciting. I just discovered that in this moment. So you guys, I am just so excited to be doing this podcast. I've been doing the FYFs more than a year now. This podcast is growing in a beautiful way, and I've just had some amazing guests. I hope you are listening to those interviews, because they're the best. And if you like the recaps before you listen to the interviews, that's fine too. I like a little sneak peek too. I guess I should also say this is a win. But like I did, watch the White Lotus Season Three without googling what happens at the end, because I was behind. So I could have and I was like, Lesley, you will just watch it, because typically, like when I watch any shows, if I get a little anxious or nervous, I will just do that. But that's not my win. I'll have another win, but first I have to celebrate things that are inspiring me. So these Friday episodes, I share things that inspired me. I share your wins. I share a win of mine. I give you a mantra. And these could also be mantras, but we're gonna do them as wins. Like this is an inspiring thing, so I have a bunch of quotes for you from different amazing women, and then I hope that you save them for yourself. So, Madeleine Albright said once, there's a special place in hell for women who don't help other women. Yeah, there is a special place. Nora Ephron said, above all, be the heroine of your life, not the victim. Maya Angelou, each time a woman stands up for herself without knowing it possibly, without claiming it, she stands up for all women. Oh, that feels good. Joan Baez, you don't get to choose how you're going to die or win. You can only decide how you're going to live now. Michelle Obama, when they go low, we go high. Malala, we realize the importance of our voices only when we are silenced. Laurel Thatcher Ulrich, well-behaved women seldom make history. That is true. There's a great book about, because she caused a riot, and I just it's all about like non-well-behaved women. Ruth Bader Ginsburg, women belong in all places where decisions are being made. Unknown, here's to strong women. May we know them? May we be them? May we raise them? Aretha Franklin, be your own artist, and always be confident what you're doing. If you're not going to be confident, you might as well not be doing it. I love this series of amazing, just inspiring quotes, and like the well-behaved women seldom make history, really, truly does inspire the heck out of me. I like see it in a neon sign, and I want it in my office. And that's just because, don't you think sometimes we need reminders? I mean, I think that's probably why I like do this podcast is like, so that you can have a reminder in your ears on your commute, something that, oh, I didn't realize that's a win. That's a win. I have wins in my life. Or oh, wow, I didn't realize that that thing that they said is a Be It Action Item is actually I do that already. I think sometimes we need that outside person to say, you are doing amazing, right? I hope that this podcast can be that for you. And so I hope that those different phrases, like save one and put it on a wall and put it somewhere, stitch it, I don't know, knit it on a pillow. Obviously on how to do things, but like, just whatever one like, really helps you show up for you. Because when you show up for you, as we know from past guests, you influence the bubble that's around you. You do. All right, let's talk about how you can influence each other. We got some wins to share with you. Okay, I got a few from Katie Donnelly, so she's gonna be our win for the day. Katie Donnelly, she's an Agency member. She's gonna be eLevate next year. She's someone I've known since her baby was born. So now I every time her baby is a different age, I'm like, oh my God, that's how long I've known you. And she put, bought my Google workspace for my new website and email address, katie@thepilatesdoula.com baby steps. I'm sharing that with you guys, because if you need a doula, here you go. Katie Donnelly. All right, also, Katie Donnelly posted about a new prenatal reformer class in a local moms group and all of these other wonderful perinatal professionals hyped me up. You guys. I don't have the image, but she did post it, and it was just like several different women talking about how amazing Katie is. And these are like, perinatal professionals. So these are other professionals who are recognizing the, this and Katie and that had to just feel like the win in its own. But also then other women were like, oh my god, I won't be pregnant by that time. Like it just was, like, just so fun. So I really, really appreciate it. And this is like a shout out to the podcast, LL's wins on the pod this week, of loving her new nighttime routine reminded me of a win I should be celebrating. This is a nighttime routine journal my friend published. I've been doing it consistently, not perfectly, for almost nine months. It's so helpful for winding down and practicing gratitude every day. Morning routines are still a challenge for me, but at least I've got one bookend in place, and she has like, a nighttime routine journal. And there's a lot of different journals that are out there, you guys, and I'll see if we can find the one that her friend does and put it in the show notes. But if you are not a morning person, don't let that stop you from starting a nighttime routine. And I love that my win of committing to a nighttime routine reminded her that she has a win she can celebrate. That's why we do this. That's why this entire episode exists every week. Is to remind you that you probably have wins happening in your day, that you're just not celebrating, and we have to celebrate them so that we have something to combat the crap that is coming at us every day, because everything happens like you have a good thing and you have a bad thing, and sometimes we only do the bad things. But just remember there are good things happening, and they might not seem huge, but having a bookend in place to have a nighttime routine meaning you have the best night's sleep, this means that your morning is gonna be better, even if there isn't a routine to your morning like it's just gonna be better because you're great night sleep. So Katie, thank you for sharing that so you can inspire the newest listener who didn't hear my win about nighttime routines being a win. So I just love that. We can just keep that going like a domino effect going. I love it. I'm obsessed. Okay, so now, you guys, a win of mine. So here's the deal, we have the world's sweetest dog. The world's sweetest dog I am obsessed with, Bayon. He is nine years old, and he we got him as a puppy, and he's just so sweet, right? But you know our dog, August, who never followed any rules, caused Bayon to stop following rules, and when you have a pocket pity, he can never be bad, because people make judgments. It's kind of like the expectation you have as a woman, you mess up, you mess up for all women, somehow, that's like, the pressure. No, just me. That's like, a pity, right? Because if you ever want to, like, watch a documentary about how amazing pities are and how they are not as bad as the media likes to proclaim, watch a documentary called Beyond the Myth. It's really, really informative. Because a lot of people think they have long jaws. They don't. I think they have the toughest jaws. They don't. So anyways, Bayon has, like, never caused an issue, never caused a problem, but he stopped listening to us on walks, and so I would have to really make him not pull on my leash. Or when a dog was barking up, he would want to bark at the back of the dog, and it's like, no, that's unbecoming. Yes, that other dog was the asshole first, but you're the one who's gonna be judged. So, you know, bring it together. So anyways, we have been really working with him on this, and found a little tool, we can click, get him treats. And you guys, it's so amazing. He's so cute. He just wants to be right by our side, because it's way more fun to be by our side than it is to pull in front. And so I just want to say you can teach an old dog new tricks, and actually, we're just reminding him tricks he knows. But because of our other dog, we weren't taking him to parties and things like that. So he used to go to public places all the time. And then in the last five years, I guess I blame COVID. We stopped taking him to places. And another win is because of all his training, he went to a birthday party, a huge birthday party who knew no one at. It was loud. There was children. There was kids coming out of there, like touching his head. And Brad had to teach them all how to like this is how you meet a dog you don't know. You got to put your hand like this, calm down, so that you can always pull your fingers back if they react differently. No, don't put your hand on top of their head. No, don't grab their head. And he was just so good. He licked every stranger. He was just so great. My win is we got our dog to be the trained dog that he was already, and we got to celebrate that with him. And it's really fun, because now we can take him everywhere. We literally take him, everywhere. He goes into Costco, where those people, he went to dispensaries the other day, like he's just having the best time. And it's kind of fun to still have a dog you can literally take everywhere. You know how people take little dogs, but like, he's not a little dog, he's a 50 pound dog. And as we come up closer to our summer tour, I'm just even more excited, because he's always been so behaved in people's studios, but I know now that he listens to his naming called again. It's just gonna be a lot more fun as we go on tour and just have a lot more ease. So that's my win. We trained our dog again. Do you see how wins can be simple? They don't have to be this, like goal they've been working on for seven years. I gotta wait seven years to have a goal. No, no, that's not true. All right, let me get your mantra and get you on your weekend. I release the fears that do not serve me, hmm? I release the fears that do not serve me. I release the fears that do not serve me. Babe, do you do that? I hope you do. I really, really hope you do. It's just going to help you out so much better. It's going to make your life so much easier. Release the fears that don't serve you. Be afraid of falling off a cliff when you're at the edge of a cliff, but don't be afraid of falling off a cliff that doesn't exist in your life right now, right? Because it's just wasting your brain space, your beautiful brain space. It could be doing another amazing things. 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Get the inside scoop on how the OPC tours came to life, including the key role Balanced Body played in making them happen. Lesley and Brad share what it's like to be on the road, how they stay grounded during tour season, and why reflecting after each stop matters. This episode is packed with community, purpose, and behind-the-scenes fun. Whether you've joined a tour before or are curious about what it's like, you'll love hearing what's in store for this year.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:58  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It second half of the how did these tours come to be? And Brad is back as my guest. So this is a different kind of cadence, I guess you'd say. Brad Crowell 1:10  Yeah, you know, we're shaking things up a little bit. Lesley Logan 1:11  So we're not answering any of your questions. We're not going to talk about the Be It Action Items we shared with you. Brad Crowell 1:16  But we are going to talk about that amazing guest you had on this week's episode. Lesley Logan 1:20  Oh yeah, yeah. We're talking about you, Brad. Brad Crowell 1:22  It was me. Lesley Logan 1:23  And also, if you want to come to the tours, opc.me/tour, no matter when you hear this, you will always be able to see what upcoming tour there is or you'll get on a waitlist for the next one to come out. But basically, we do two tours a year. So we left off with how we started talking with Balanced Body about our tours.Brad Crowell 1:42  Yeah. So I remember we were at a POT, I think. Lesley Logan 1:46  In Monterey in 2020. Brad Crowell 1:48  No, I think it was before that. I think it was in Chicago, even before that. Lesley Logan 1:51  Well, there was a Chicago one that I talked to them and I planted the seed, that was in 2019. Brad Crowell 1:54  Yeah, but that's the one I was talking about. So we started talking to Balanced Body years prior to their participation, and I remember the conversation with their team. I just remember looking at their operation and literally watching them back a tractor trailer up to the convention center and commenting and going, Wow, you guys have tractor trailers. And the response was, we have three. I was like, you have three tractor trailers? They're like, yeah, look where do you think all these Reformers are gonna go? And they were loading case after case after case of things into the thing. And I was like, wow, it's so much work for you guys to go on the road. And they said, yeah, for us to put on these POTs, it is a massive enterprise to do. Many, many, many people, lots and lots of money. It's so much coordination, so much effort, you know. And I jokingly said, well, you know, I think we can help you guys out with that. And that didn't really come to anything, but I, in my mind, I was like, we could do it for half, you know. And then we got the van, and then we were talking with Ken.Lesley Logan 2:56  What happened is they changed, on the Contrology, they changed how you can do the wheels, the side wheels, how you can tighten them or not tighten them, and they change it to make it easier for people. And so I said, we're all, we're driving to the POT Monterey anyways, because we're gonna have a booth there as well because we had a booth in the October one which was when you kind of planted that seed. Brad Crowell 3:15  Yeah, and for us it was only what eight hours, at this point we've driven across the country multiple times. They're like, yeah, we'll just drive. Lesley Logan 3:20  I said, oh, I'll bring my Reformer. And we weren't even staying at the hotel where the event was. We were just down the street, just because of, like, I needed a really big room. Brad Crowell 3:27  Yeah, you had to do a weekend workshop thing. Lesley Logan 3:29  Yeah, I had to, like, host a weekend event and so we needed a big room. And so I had my assistant at the time, like, literally scoping pictures of rooms and we're like, there's no way we can make this room work, because the beds right there. So we had to stay about a mile a half away from the venue. And so Ken Ubered over. Brad Crowell 3:45  Ken is the owner of Balanced Body. Lesley Logan 3:47  Yeah, so get this, Ken Ubered over to our hotel, during setup of his humongous convention, to change the little silver situation that goes on the back of my carriage, to change the wheels out. Brad Crowell 4:01  Yeah, he brought us wrenches.Lesley Logan 4:02  He just brought a wrench, brought a credit card, so we had also brought our Nespresso machine. Brad made him a cup of Nespresso and so he fixed he like, this is, this is what.Brad Crowell 4:11  We're just chilling out, you know, and he's working on this Reformer, we're just chit-chatting. Lesley Logan 4:16  And then Brad's like, oh, man, I'll take you back to the venue. Brad Crowell 4:18  Yeah. He's like, oh, I'll grab an Uber. I was like, no, you will not grab an Uber. I will drive you, you know. And of course, I wanted him to see the van. Lesley Logan 4:26  Yeah. So he got in the van. He had to see how big the van was. He had just seen that we brought the Reformer. Brad Crowell 4:31  Yeah, yeah. Obviously, we brought the Reformer. But he said to me, oh my gosh, I always wanted one of these when I was in my 20s. I always just wanted to drive around the country. And it's so cool that you guys are doing this, and that's when I got a chance to say, well, this is, you know, we do go on tour, and we are taking, we're already taking a Reformer with us, so that we can show off the Contrology Reformer, right? And he was like, wow. And so, you know, I didn't like full blown pitch him in that moment, but it was like one major seed planted, because he could see it, feel it, touch it, understand it, in a way that wasn't us trying to pitch the vision. He could be in the vision.Lesley Logan 5:09  Yeah. So they actually signed on with us for our first ever summer tour. And so we got to do the west coast because we'd only ever done the East Coast and the middle we'd never done the west coast before we'd pulled them. We want to do a West Coast tour. So we actually did our first West Coast tour. It wasn't very long. It was kind of like a short and sweet thing. I know. We did Las Vegas. We did Los Angeles. Brad Crowell 5:31  Well, somewhere in there, we missed the 2022 winter tour. But we, 2020. Lesley Logan 5:36  Oh, yeah, we did a '22 we did a 22, you're right, we did do a 2022 winter tour. And that got bigger, got back up to the size. Brad Crowell 5:41  Yeah, that was like eight or nine. So we have Cleveland, St Louis, Dallas, Houston, Nashville, Atlanta, Greensboro. Yeah. So. Lesley Logan 5:48  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That one, that one was really great, actually, because we got back up to our 2019 numbers and so we were able to say, okay, so we've had four tours, and so we're able to show them like, look now that COVID allows us to do this. Look at these nine cities. What if we, so we did our biggest tour ever, which was the West Coast tour. We didn't do Los Angeles. We started at Las Vegas. Did we even do Las Vegas? I know we did Riverside. Brad Crowell 6:10  For the summer tour? Lesley Logan 6:11  Yeah. We did Redlands. Brad Crowell 6:13  Redlands, Long Beach. Lesley Logan 6:14  Long Beach. Brad Crowell 6:14  Bakersfield. Lesley Logan 6:15  Bakersfield. Brad Crowell 6:16  Central Valley, Hanford, Fresno. Lesley Logan 6:18  Yeah it was near Fresno. Brad Crowell 6:19  Modesto. Lesley Logan 6:20  Modesto. You guys were hitting some of those great I-5 cities. Brad Crowell 6:23  So that's five. Yeah, we did Fairfield. Lesley Logan 6:25  Yes. And we did Sacramento. Brad Crowell 6:27  Sac. Lesley Logan 6:27  And then we did a tour of Balanced Body, even though we've done it before with Ken, we did a tour so that our OPC members could see how it's all done. It was so fun. They do amazing work at Balanced Body, just being great on the environment. Then we did. Brad Crowell 6:40  Bend. Lesley Logan 6:40  Bend, Oregon. Brad Crowell 6:42  Portland. Lesley Logan 6:42  Portland. That was so fun, too, Seattle, and then. Brad Crowell 6:46  Spokane. Lesley Logan 6:47  Spokane and then we dropped down, had a couple days off in Idaho. And then we got all around St George, Utah. Brad Crowell 6:54  So we did 11 stops. Lesley Logan 6:55  11 stops, it was our biggest one, and it was so fun. And we got to see how hot it could get. So then the van got a fan. Brad Crowell 7:05  We also did that whole tour in two weeks. Lesley Logan 7:07  In two weeks. Brad Crowell 7:07  It was like 16 days. Lesley Logan 7:09  It was really. Brad Crowell 7:10  It was zipped through 11 stops in 16 days. Lesley Logan 7:13  It was, yeah, there's a heat wave. So I was not, I was okay with zipping through. Then, because of that went so well and Balanced Body was so great with that that they joined us for our winter tour in 2023 and then we really able to like. Brad Crowell 7:26  But that's when I think things really blew up. Lesley Logan 7:27  Yeah, I don't think it was our, it was our biggest tour, for sure. It beat the 11 cities, but it wasn't our biggest, biggest. Then, last year, you want to go through them? Brad Crowell 7:36  Sure. We did Vegas, St George, Denver, Lawrence, Kansas, St Louis, Missouri, Cleveland, Ohio, Saratoga Springs. That was a private event. Boston, t hen Providence, private event. Brooklyn. We had to cancel New York City because nobody was in town. Hershey, Pennsylvania, Greensboro, North Carolina, Charleston, South Carolina, Miami, Sarasota, that's the first time we did the inside of Florida. Then Austin, Dallas, Albuquerque, Sedona. So by far, this was the largest one of the 19 cities. Lesley Logan 8:10  Yeah, then we did a summer tour with the Midwest. Because if you've noticed, we've been skipping Chicago for a while. So we have been alternating the West Coast, with the Midwest, and so this is how we decided, like, okay, so you need to know, after every single one of these tours, we reflect about, like, what went well, what cities went well? Will we go back, how the people like it, how much effort was it, how great was the host? You know, if we love the host, obviously it's amazing for us to want to go there. If the host works really, really hard, then, of course, we want to continue to work with them and support them. But we also discovered that my voice, as I get older, my voice can only do. Brad Crowell 8:47  I don't think it's just because you're getting older. We had you working nine days in a row, literally teaching class nine days in a row. By the ninth day you were fried. Lesley Logan 8:56  And some of these studios, they're acoustic. Brad Crowell 8:58  You're not a day older than 29, love. Lesley Logan 8:59  Thanks, baby. Some of these students, the acoustics are not awesome for that, because you have to get your voice to carry and all these things. And so, at any rate, you'd think, well, Lesley, don't you teach all day? No. No, I don't. No, I don't. In fact, when I. Brad Crowell 9:14  Come on, you do talk, you do talk most of the time, but like this is different than trying to yell in a warehouse, you know, like. Lesley Logan 9:20  Yeah, and get people's attention in a warehouse, for sure, some of them have music going on, the whole thing. So, at any rate, we've made changes to the tour. So you'll notice with tour schedules since summer of the Midwest. Brad Crowell 9:31  Well, that, so the Summer Tour was only 13 stops, but we did it in 16 days. Yes, we were flying through. Lesley Logan 9:36  We made changes that we can only do max six days in a row before a day off, five is more ideal. Brad Crowell 9:42  But this was a major change for us, where, whereas, like, all right, we have to be very intentional about the breaks that we're putting in. Because one, things Lesley mentioned at the beginning was, how does she maintain her consistency? How does she maintain her you know, how do you do that stuff? Lesley Logan 9:57  So these tours, because I don't want to do them, because it's a job. We actually truly enjoy doing the tours. We have so much fun. I mean, I get to hug hundreds of people. It's so great. And it really, actually makes me go, oh, I wanna teach all the time. And then I'm actually like, no, actually, I really love my life, but I love that I get to see so many of you that I only see on like, I only get to read words on the internet. I get to see you in person. I could touch you and like you're three dimensional and all the things. We really love doing it, we also want to be able to be as present as possible. And so after every tour, we always reflect back, do we have enough time in that city? Do we have enough time to do this? You guys, I must work out so I do not teach all these people Pilates, and I don't get workouts in. And so every schedule we have to make sure that five days a week, I have time at a gym. I have time to move before I'm teaching giving me space to go the gym at 11pm at night is not space to work out. Also, I have to make sure that I get to have seven hours of sleep, very important. So all the things that I preach about prioritizing myself first, those things happen on tour. Brad Crowell 10:57  People always ask us how do you maintain your routine when you're completely jacking up your routine?Lesley Logan 11:02  Yeah? Well, you can speak to this. You guys use a really cool app that plans out everything, because he'll kind of drive late at night while I'm sleeping, so I can go to bed early, and I'll wake up and it will say like you're working out from this time to this time. Then you're driving here to get coffee, and then you're driving here to do this thing, and so that I have time to do my thing for myself while you're sleeping.Brad Crowell 11:22  Yeah, so we take shifts, because just the nature of our brains and our bodies, I usually stay up late. Lesley usually gets up early, especially when, when it was the COVID trip that was crazy, like the van almost never turned off. We just kept going. Lesley Logan 11:36  We were so nervous about touching anything. Brad Crowell 11:37  I sleep, you drive, and while you were sleeping, I would drive, and we'd just go, go, go. Lesley Logan 11:42  That was very different. That was also just like a very different time in the world. We were, like, afraid. We still wondered if you got COVID from gas station handles and we were going to see people at Christmas, and we had to do like, a three-day hangout at your parents' house.Brad Crowell 11:55  But the point is that we were overlapping on purpose while one was sleeping, the other was driving. Now it's a little less. The maximum amount of driving that we're trying to do in a day is, like, no more than eight hours. And that's still a lot, you know, so we've started to slow it down, which has since then made the tour longer, but it makes it a lot more enjoyable so.Lesley Logan 12:17  We also get to like, see places now, because and we have the dogs, well, now we just have one dog. We should tell them funny stories about the dogs before we wrap this episode up. But we like make sure that they get walks, and we take it through really beautiful habitat preservations that allow for dog walking. We get to see some really cool thing.Brad Crowell 12:33  We stopped in Kansas by, like, one of those big tank memorials and threw the ball. I mean, you know, like this, all these things that we do. Then the Winter Tour 2024 with the support of Balanced Body. And we had some other sponsors, too. Yeah, we had 21 locations, 21 stops. But in order to meet these new requirements of no more than six days in a row of teaching, how do we drive eight hours or less a day? How do we make sure that we've got time to do some workouts. By the way, we're interested in seeing White Sands National Park on this trip. Can we do that, you know, like stuff like that. How do we work all that in? Well, it ended up making, making the trip 34, 35 days. But we actually went the longest. We drove 80, over 8000 miles. Lesley Logan 13:17  Yeah, we got to go to some great places. And also, if you're like, this sounds so amazing, guys, everything works out for you. Just so you know, pretty much every tour there was a dud city.Brad Crowell 13:24  Oh yeah, we had to cancel. It would have been 22 cities on the Winter Tour, and we, unfortunately, had to pull one because we just had no one participate.Lesley Logan 13:33  And we and talk about like the last time was that perseverance, we paid people to scour emails and Instagram handles for three hour drive away to be like, okay, well, what if we get these people from this state to come in? What if this people from this state come in? They could do with this. Brad Crowell 13:47  I mean, I would drive and just call, literally, I would call studio after studio after studio. Lesley Logan 13:51  And we had people say, and it was a lovely house. And she's like, no, people are just last minute. We're like, girl, it's 48 hours before. This is as last minute as we, no, we're not driving up there. So again, we don't take it personally. It sucks. We always do reflect, like, what could we have done better? Was it the time of day? You know, we've had cities that have done really, really well two years in a row, and then have a dud year, and we're like, oh, what happened there? And it's like, oh. So this next Winter Tour, we're flipping two cities because we're like, oh, you know, we did them before Christmas and then after Christmas. And this year we switched that, and that didn't go well for either one of them. So you start to learn the seasons of things, and you have to know that it's not personal, but the reflecting after every tour really helps us make each tour even better. And we're six weeks, five weeks away from our eighth tour, and it's gonna be epic. It's gonna be amazing. It almost feels like a vacation.Brad Crowell 14:38  A little bit more time-condensed, so we're a little over three weeks, but we're at doing almost 19 stops. So that's, that's intense. Lesley Logan 14:46  Three of them include Canada.Brad Crowell 14:48  Yeah. So we're, we're doing our best here to get to do our first international tour. I mean, we are going, so. Lesley Logan 14:55  We're going. Just so you know, these tours also are a huge investment. There's a reason why we have a sponsor with Balanced Body. They really help us actually be on the road for that long because when you're on the road for that many weeks, you're having three plus meals a day on the road. All that adds up money, the gas, depending on what state you're in, is insane, right? So there's that we do. We try not to use a hotel at this point because we have the van, the investment we've made in the van, you know, to make it so we can live in all of that kind of costs money. And so there are things that have failed on tours where, like, like, those stops that haven't made money or haven't, haven't, had been canceled, but having a sponsor that allows us to, like, really be on the road for that long, so that we can do these stops and we can see all of you, but to get to Canada, we're investing thousands of dollars to make it happen.Brad Crowell 15:41  Yeah, had to pay an attorney to help us with paperwork and it was like. Lesley Logan 15:44  Because you can't just work wherever you want to work. You can't just do that. So we're super, super excited to be one of the first people that actually do a big Pilates event. There have been other Pilates events in Canada. I don't want to discount those ones that are happening in Balanced Bodies in Montreal.Brad Crowell 15:59   It's like, it's the thing that's exciting about this is it'll be our first international tour. Lesley Logan 16:03  Yes, yes. I know people are like, when are you going to do a European tour? So I used to think it was like two years away after what we're doing for Canada. You guys, I gonna tell you right now, that's a five year plan. Because, like. Brad Crowell 16:13  Yeah, we so we're thinking about, how could we do this, you know, in Europe and Australia. Because, like, eventually for us, that's the vision. We want to go see those places. We want to spend the time, I think, for us to drive around Australia, to do it right, it's going to take us five to six weeks of driving, like, that's a lot. Lesley Logan 16:28  And we're going to have to rent a van there. We're certainly not going to take one. I was thinking about put some magnets on it. But also, there are actual laws about what we can do, and we don't do these things quietly. So, so if you live in Australia or Europe, and you want us to do tours there, you should definitely reach out. We keep a list of people who love to host. And we do need hosts. These tours, they happen when there's hosts. But also, and that goes for anyone in the States as well. You can actually put your place on there. But also, we're gonna need legal help, because, like we're talking immigration attorney help, which is not cheap, by the way, very expensive, so that we can actually do these things. So what we thought would be like in two years, I'm realizing, is probably a few years in the making. But we want to make this happen. We want to be part of it. That's why we're actually telling you the behind the scenes on how these tours work. So opc.me/tour is where you go for tickets, but opc.me/host is where you go to apply to be a host. Okay, so funny stories about the dogs. First of all, we used to do these tours with three dogs. Brad Crowell 17:29  Three. Lesley Logan 17:30  And then Gaia's last tour was Summer Tour 2024. Brad Crowell 17:33  Well, her first last tour. Lesley Logan 17:35  Her first last tour was Winter 2022. Brad Crowell 17:38  So, was it winter? Lesley Logan 17:40  Oh, yeah, Winter Tour 2022. Brad Crowell 17:42  It was Winter Tour, you're right.Lesley Logan 17:43  And then it was, her first last tour was Summer 2023 then her second last tour was, was winter 2023 and then. Brad Crowell 17:52  Her actual last tour was Summer '24. Lesley Logan 17:53  You guys, before we started, she, you guys, she did not want to go. We were, the van was loaded up, the boys were in it. The boys, because the boys, once we start loading the, putting stuff up to load in. They are like, in the van. Brad Crowell 18:03  Yeah, they do not want to be left behind, so they're sitting in the van watching us. Lesley Logan 18:07  It is hot as fuck outside. And they're like, no, I need to be in the van. I'm like, okay, but the doors are wide open. I can't be in the van. And they're freaking out. They're, they're just, you know, very nervous. And she, so we have the whole van loaded up. The boys are in the van. We go Gaia, and she comes and looks at the door.Brad Crowell 18:22  She comes out onto the front porch, stares at us. Lesley Logan 18:26  And she goes back inside. Brad Crowell 18:27  Turns around and goes back in the house. She's like nuh-uh.Lesley Logan 18:30  And we forced her, we forced her to go on this tour. And she was at this point, sleeping 20 hours a day, just anyways, she was having a hard time with her back legs. We're carrying her everywhere, which we've been doing the last two tours. Brad Crowell 18:41  And we had to lift her in and out of the van. Lesley Logan 18:42  Lift her in the van, and then, okay, so on this her on her final, final, last tour, she had an accident in the bed, and that was really unfortunate, because we're on the road now. We've got a dog, but that has to get washed. We don't always have time for a, like, a wash and, like, I don't know what you call this, like a fluff and fold. So I'm in Kansas City teaching a class, and while I'm teaching, Brad leaves to go bathe her. So he finds a place that he can bathe her, and he has to leave because it's hot out. He has to leave.Brad Crowell 19:12  So the timing of things, we have a very tight timeline. Lesley Logan 19:16  He leaves the car running with the dogs in the van and the boys. Brad Crowell 19:20  Wait. So, hold on. You're teaching the class. You're teaching the workshop. I have, literally, I have 90 minutes to get up and out, find a place, turn it around, wash the dog, get back. Right?Lesley Logan 19:34  Yeah. So he pulls up to this dog place. Brad Crowell 19:37  Well, the first one I pulled up to, it says on Google Maps that they have a thing in there to wash them. They don't. And I was like, are you, are you kidding? I just wasted 10 minutes coming all the way over here, and you don't have what I need. Lesley Logan 19:49  Yeah, so, so then he now has to go the next one, right? So he goes to the next one. He leaves the car running because it's hot out. It's like 90 something degrees. He leaves it running. And the boys are in the passenger seat, watching Brad take Gaia into the van. They're not okay with this. The pack is not together, somehow, though, while he's washing Gaia, so she's in this tub. Brad Crowell 20:10  So they're in the van, I'm in the store. But the the van's running so that the AC could be blasting. And August. Lesley Logan 20:18  Pressed the window button. Brad Crowell 20:19  He goes to the driver's seat, and shoves his nose, but he touches, he steps on the window button, and the window goes down, and sure enough. Lesley Logan 20:27  Jumps out. Brad Crowell 20:28  Two dogs jump out of the van. Lesley Logan 20:29  And they go up to the store, which has those doors that open by themselves. Brad Crowell 20:32  So before that happened, I'm in the back of the store, and I'm washing Gaia, right? She's covered in shit. All of a sudden, up at the front of the store, I hear, oh no, oh no, right, and this now there's multiple people yelling oh no. And then this lady's running down the store, and she's yelling, hey, sir, sir, I think your dogs just got out of the van. I'm like, holding the hose, and it's one of those timer things. So, like, I'm like, all right, I guess I'm gonna have to get more of that once I figure this other thing out. So I throw the water that's already it's still coming out. I just throw it and like, I'm like, Gaia, you stay. And she's looking at me, like, how could I possibly go anywhere? Right? And so I'm running out towards the van right at the same exact time the double doors of this big dog store open, and both August and Bayon come running into the store.Lesley Logan 21:21  Yeah, they ran into the store. So thankfully, they ran into the store and not, like, down the street. I don't even know what we would have done. At any rate.Brad Crowell 21:28  Yeah, I was, like, I was, because there was a parking lot. Like, there was hundreds of cars. It would have been terrible. Lesley Logan 21:33  Yeah. So they ran into the store, so Brad has to get them. Brad Crowell 21:36  So now I got all three dogs in the back, in the dog washing area, because I'm like, screw it. You guys are with me now. We're just gonna all hang out here. Finish washing Gaia. I blow dry Gaia down. And they were like, hey, can we get you a leash? Because the leashes were in the van. It wasn't like that, you know, so, and I was like, that would be so helpful. So they helped me, like, get the dogs on a leash. And, you know, we troop out of it, and everyone's happy because, you know, the dogs came to be with the pack. Lesley Logan 22:04  Yeah, so. Brad Crowell 22:06  Oh, and then I had to zip back just in time for the end of the workshop so that I could do the raffle. Lesley Logan 22:10  And I'm like, wrapping up this workshop, and he's not there. And I'm like, where the fuck is he? Because I can't, I don't know what I'm raffling off like I had to check people into this next thing. I had no idea this was going on. Anyways, oh my God. So this tour we. Brad Crowell 22:24  Chaos. Lesley Logan 22:25  This tour will be not chaotic. Future tours will not be chaotic because we have one dog. Brad Crowell 22:30  Yes, he's very chill. He just wants to lay next to you.Lesley Logan 22:33  He's very chill. Just wants to lay down. He wants to just be there. So I think it was so this is where we're at. No more shenanigans. Real easy. Roll in, roll out. You guys. We have two tours this year. We have a summer tour in the West Coast, into Canada. Please tell your friends, come make a trip out of it. We're doing some really cool cities. We're going to places you're going to want to travel to, and obviously, East Coast, the South check our Winter Tour list. And if you are living anywhere in the world and you want a tour stop, feel free to go to opc.me/host but opc.me/tour get tickets for you and your friends.Brad Crowell 23:06  If you want a tour stop, meaning you would like to host us, go to opc.me/host. If you would like information about the tour itself, go to opc.me/tour.Lesley Logan 23:16  And all of the classes and workshops are for all levels, so your friends and your family can come. These are not made to be only for teachers. There are CECs for the teachers. And again, our headlining sponsor for these next two tours is Balanced Body and Contrology. Oh, and now we have a contour kit, because we're bringing a Reformer, a mat and a Spine Corrector, so you guys can try those things out.Brad Crowell 23:40  Not a chair? Lesley Logan 23:41  No, we didn't buy the chair. Brad Crowell 23:42  Oh, I thought we did.Lesley Logan 23:44  No, we talked about that. Brad Crowell 23:44  All right, failed. Well, that's fine.Lesley Logan 23:47  I would love another chair. But we discussed that. Brad Crowell 23:50  It is big. It's just a lot.Lesley Logan 23:53  We discussed it. It was not the right thing to buy it until the van's more set up,Brad Crowell 23:58  Yeah. So anyway, come try out all that fun stuff. So what would you say would be a Be It Action Item for this episode? Lesley Logan 24:06  Oh, just go buy a ticket to our upcoming tour, because you're gonna have the best time. You're gonna be in community. If you feel lonely, or if you feel burnt out, or if you feel exhausted, then you come on this tour and you, I fill your cup. I prioritize you, I answer your questions. You get to see people you pass as two ships. You get to maybe meet up with people you had no idea love Pilates the same way you do. These literally bring people together. And it doesn't matter how you started Pilates, how many years been doing Pilates, if you teach who trained you. I don't give a fuck. Being in community is the be it action item. It's important.Brad Crowell 24:45  Cool. So my Be It Action Item is when it comes to projects like this, don't be afraid to make changes after you've decided this is how it should work, right, because, for example, if we didn't sell tickets to a spot why are we driving there, right? And that's a bummer, and that's frustrating, but you have to be able to be fluid enough to make changes in the moment when something isn't working or isn't making sense, or not necessarily in the moment, you have to catch it, you can assess it after the fact and do the post mortem, right? For example, from the Summer Tour '24 to the Winter Tour '24 we decided you clearly shouldn't be teaching nine days in a row. That is not healthy, right? So therefore we put a hard stop six days maximum on the way out to Philadelphia. We only taught one stint of six days. Everything else was five, four days in a row before we took a day off on the way back from Philadelphia, same thing, we only had one stint of six days because we were making adjustments and making changes. So, yeah, but I still agree with you that you should come join us because of community. It is so important, especially now with our virtual world, with loneliness being higher than it's ever been, with social media not helping any of us actually function in our own lives. Even though we've been sold this story that somehow it's gonna connect us better, it fucking doesn't, and it's just making us lonelier. So what we're trying to do is actually bring together people in real life, so that we can support each other and be around each other, because we need it. So we would love to meet you, come join us on these tours. Brad Crowell 26:22  Yes, all right, loves, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 26:25  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 26:27  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 27:10  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 27:15  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 27:19  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 27:26  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 27:30  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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What started as a holiday workaround turned into a nationwide tour that's touched hundreds of lives. In this behind-the-scenes episode, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell share the unfiltered origin story of the OPC Tour. From cross-country van trips to pandemic pivots, their journey proves that big dreams are built on small, intentional steps. Tune in to hear how messy action, community love, and a little bit of stubbornness made it all possible.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How a simple book tour idea inspired a cross-country Pilates tour.Their first cross-country drive and unexpected Instagram interest from fans.The rough logistics and lessons from their 2019 tour across 8 cities.How COVID-19 disrupted plans—and why they still bought a van anyway.The importance of staying persistent and evolving with each tour.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/eventsBalanced Body - https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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We wanted to bring the community together, and we wanted to get across the country. Lesley Logan 0:09  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:52  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast with Brad as my guest. Brad Crowell 0:56  What? Who is here? Lesley Logan 0:57  Have we actually done it where you're my guest?Brad Crowell 1:00  Maybe. I mean, I've been on a couple of episodes where we've had, like, a group with some guests, but, like, has it just been you and I on them? Lesley Logan 1:07  But you're also, no, I don't think so. Brad Crowell 1:09  Maybe this is, I'm making a debut, people. Lesley Logan 1:11  All right, so here's the deal. We actually have to, like, do this as if I was introducing that episode, so that there can be an ad break. Brad Crowell 1:18  All right, go ahead. Lesley Logan 1:19  Hey guys. So today's episode is gonna be a little different, because, yes, as you heard, Brad's on the show, and we're gonna be talking a bit about the tour, and I thought it'd be really fun for us to actually take you back in the history of like, how the OPC tours started, why we do them, and just have some talk about the tour this week, because we're coming up on our eighth tour.Brad Crowell 1:40  I can't believe it's been eight. That's like mind blowing, actually. Lesley Logan 1:43  We're crazy people. Brad Crowell 1:44  Maybe a little bit, maybe just a little bit. Lesley Logan 1:46  Okay. So, Brad, do you remember when we did the first tour? Do you remember how the idea came to be?Brad Crowell 1:52  I do remember how the idea came to be. So you and I were in a coaching group, and there was another couple in the group who had written a book. They were very excited about this book, and they wanted to go around the cities and do a book tour launch slash hosting workshops while they were effectively selling their book. Lesley Logan 2:11  Yeah. And we were like, well, how can we go on a book tour? Because, I mean, yes, I have a book, but I didn't want to, like, go on a tour about the book. I was like, that doesn't really, I don't know if that's something I could do all the time. We're like, what if I, like, what, how can we go on a tour? And then, because you were a touring musician.Brad Crowell 2:25  Right, as soon as I, as soon as I heard them say that, and we started talking, I was like, we could just teach Pilates classes as we drive around on a tour. Like, hello. So obvious. Why did we not think of it before? Lesley Logan 2:37  The year, so we need to go back a year before that, Brad. So the only reason we actually thought we could do a tour in 2019 was because in 2018 I put my feet in the sand and said, I'm not flying home for the holidays. I'm not doing it. I love your family, but I can't do another flight. We've already done 150,000 miles of flying. I've been everywhere, and I hate flying at Christmas time. And also, for some reason, guys, LAX to Philly is almost impossible to find a nonstop flight. It's impossible to find a nonstop flight from Las Vegas to Philly, and so you have to fly red eyes, which is annoying because it's four and a half hours, not six hours, so you're not getting any sleep. And then you land there, and it's 11am somehow, and you're like, how?Brad Crowell 3:22  Yeah, you land at seven, by the time you get back to the house, it's 10:30, yeah, I mean, it's.Lesley Logan 3:26  Annoying. Brad Crowell 3:26  Not great. Lesley Logan 3:26  Anyways. Also, the last time we flew in 2017, I did finally fall asleep. And then, of course, the lights come on and they're like, is there a doctor on the plane? And I was just like, if they land this plane, if someone is not, of course, I want people to live. I'm not an asshole. But also I was finally asleep. So anyways, because we had done a cross-country tour. Brad Crowell 3:50  Trip. Lesley Logan 3:50  Trip, trip, in 2018. Brad Crowell 3:51  We just, we just rented a car, let's just go east, basically. And we didn't have an agenda other than we just had a couple of friends along the way that we were interested in seeing and saying hi to, and that was it. Lesley Logan 4:05  Just kind of based on, like, how many hours we thought, like, together we could drive. And, okay, that gets us here at night. And, oh, we have friends in St Louis. Okay, we can go here. So we have this tiny little car with the two dogs, and we drove. Brad Crowell 4:17  And we rented an SUV. But I was like, oh, you know, I don't need a, I don't need like a huge Tahoe or Chevy Suburban or anything. We could just get a regular SUV. It was so small, y'all. Lesley Logan 4:28  I don't know how they can call it an SUV. You guys, it was like, no, this is not an SUV. If you put a family of five in there, you couldn't have the groceries in the car, like it was so small. But anyways, it was just the two of us and the two dogs. And when we were on this trip, I was like, posting on Instagram, and this is before you really used Instagram for business, but I was posting like, oh, we're here. You know, I feel like, are you teaching here? And I was like, oh, people want us to teach here. I didn't know people would want your class on the holidays. So this had happened in 2018. Brad Crowell 4:56  That's right. Lesley Logan 4:57  Fast forward to October of 2019, and we are hearing this, and we're like, well, how can we do, so we had the, we knew.Brad Crowell 5:04  Kind of like had like I, like, we, we'd been prompted by our members from OPC, but that didn't actually turn into like we're going to do this tour thing next year, until this other couple was talking about their book launch, you're right. So, that was like, the second step to push us, if we're, like, to make it happen. Lesley Logan 5:21  Yeah and because we knew we could do the drive. Brad Crowell 5:22  Right, because we just done it the previous year, and we drove, you know, we drove both ways, you know, back and forth. Lesley Logan 5:28  Yeah. So we actually did the posters on the wall. I should have grabbed it for the visual, but we did, like, eight or nine cities, actually, we did on the very first we did Las Vegas. Brad Crowell 5:37  So that was 2019. Lesley Logan 5:39  We did Las Vegas, Denver, we did. Brad Crowell 5:43  Did we do St Louis? Lesley Logan 5:44  I don't know that we did St Louis. We did, no, we did Libertyville. So we did outside of Chicago, and then we did, like, some other ville, like, which was outside of Cleveland, but not Cleveland. Brad Crowell 5:55  Yeah, it was close to Cleveland, though. Lesley Logan 5:57  And then we did Lehigh Valley. Brad Crowell 6:00  Right, yeah, it was like, basically Bethlehem. Lesley Logan 6:03  And then we did Nashville, and then we did Atlanta. Brad Crowell 6:06  Oh, we did Nashville? Lesley Logan 6:07  Yeah. Brad Crowell 6:08  Oh. Lesley Logan 6:08  It was huge, like, 30 people, and that's why it's so, and people were like are you in Nashville, you guys are not, like, ever since then, not such a great follow up, you guys are not great. Love you. We want to go, trust me, we want to do Nashville. Um, then we did Atlanta, and then we did Austin, and then we did Phoenix. Brad Crowell 6:28  Geez, I don't even know how you remember these things. Lesley Logan 6:30  And then, I know, and then, and then, I don't know that we considered it part of the tour, although very much was. It was in January, we did Redlands, and then the world shut down. And then, so our first tour. Brad Crowell 6:46  We did Scottsdale. It was the last stop. Lesley Logan 6:48  Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did this really cool place in Scottsdale. Brad Crowell 6:51  Yeah. So I actually just pulled up the list. You nailed it, Vegas to Denver, to Chicago, which is Libertyville, to Cleveland, which is Strongsville, your second ville.Lesley Logan 6:58  I said it was another ville. Brad Crowell 6:59  I'm so impressed. Then Lehigh Valley, which is Bethlehem, and then Nashville, Austin and Scottsdale. Yeah. I am impressed. Lesley Logan 7:06  And then there was like, this little post tour stop in Redlands, which was not part of the tour. We added it in after the fact, but it was so fun. And it was like the true die hards, you know, the people who know the band before they make it to Coachella. It was like.Brad Crowell 7:20  Scottsdale was insane to me, that people even came out. It was like, negative 4 million degrees hot, and we had an outdoor venue. Lesley Logan 7:28  It was New Year's Eve. It was New Year's Eve at an outdoor venue. Brad Crowell 7:32  We literally had, like, it was, like, every three mats, there was a space heater, and everyone was like, oh my God, it's so cool. We're doing Pilates outside on January 1st. What are we doing? Lesley Logan 7:40  We all got warm enough, and it was super fun. And it was so great. Brad Crowell 7:44  It was so fun. Lesley Logan 7:45  It was sold out. It was such a great spot. And people, like, came from Canada, there, it was just like crazy. So, at any rate, it was so much fun, and we wanted new, we knew we want to do it again, but then, of course, the pandemic happened. But here's what got to happen, guys, so the pandemic happened, Brad and I still drove across the U.S., but we thought. Brad Crowell 8:01  I was just looking at the ticket sales, we had 133 tickets sold on that first tour.Lesley Logan 8:07  On the first tour, yeah. But we did that with a Tahoe, by the way. Brad Crowell 8:11  What, the second tour? After the first tour.Lesley Logan 8:15  No, no, we went to the Tahoe for the first tour. We went to the Tahoe. Brad Crowell 8:18  2019 yeah, you're right, yeah, because we knew that the tiny little SUV wasn't going to cut it, especially because we were bringing, like, stuff, and it was gonna be a little more of a robust tour. So we rented a Tahoe, and that was fine-ish, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't ideal, though, because, like, there was no real, yes, you could lay down on the back seat. We had this, the back, the middle seat was laid flat, but like, you know, it wasn't comfortable trying to sleep in the passenger seats sucks, like.Lesley Logan 8:45  Yeah, and also, you guys, we also, because we're going to places where we had clients, it wasn't necessarily places where we had friends, and so we were getting hotels. We had a hotel in Denver. We stayed in the financial district. Brad Crowell 8:57  Oh, I forgot we did. Lesley Logan 8:58  And then, in Libertyville we did stay at the host, like, basement, but Gaia had an accident. We're like, my God, we can't stay in people's houses, because Gaia's old. At any rate, it was really fun, and we, like, did it, but then with the pandemic, we obviously couldn't do it again. But what we did do during the year of 2020, was we actually bought the van, and because we knew we wanted a tour vehicle, and thank God we bought it, even though we weren't going on tour that year because they wanted to pay us what we paid for that van, like people were like, clamoring to get that van off our hands. But we got the van, you guys, we took it across the country in less than 48 hours. We drove from Las Vegas.Brad Crowell 9:34  That was 55 on the way home. Yep, 55 hours solid, from Philadelphia to Vegas. Lesley Logan 9:39  We, but on the way there, I don't think that van ever really stopped, because we tried to sleep in Vail on a mattress on the metal base of this cargo van. Brad Crowell 9:50  So okay, so here's what this looks like. We buy a cargo van. A cargo van is an empty box on wheels. Okay? And we bought the longest and the tallest, so it's 23 feet long, it's nine and change tall. And it's a big, it's a big, empty box. Lesley Logan 10:07  We've loaded it up. We have pictures of you and the empty box. Brad Crowell 10:09  The only thing that we did was throw things on the floor. There was nothing else in there. We literally had a mattress with six blankets on it, right? And then we had boxes and suitcases. Lesley Logan 10:21  Everything had to be tied on the walls. Brad Crowell 10:23  We took our, we took our, this is so fun, we raided our own laundry room because in the laundry room we have one of those wheelie situations where you could throw your dirty laundry, but then you could hang clean laundry up at the top. So I took that out of the laundry room, and I zip tied it to the wall of the van, bungee corded it to the wall of the van, and that became like, how did we store? How did we do our clothes, you know? So, like, that was our closet. Lesley Logan 10:49  It was crazy, because then we were driving back with all these boxes, I just felt like everything was gonna fly on us. Anyways, so, Erika Quest shout out to Erika Quest, she had a dream about us the night we were sleeping in Vail, because we're in the Walmart parking in Vail. So we pull into this Walmart parking lot in Vail, and I'm in the bed. Went into the six blankets. We got the three dogs. You're under the blankets. It's great. It's actually fine, because, like, we blasted the heat. Everything's fine. Brad Crowell 11:11  I mean, it was cold, like cold in your face, but it was like the mummy bags when you went camping as a kid. Lesley Logan 11:16  Yeah. So, so great. So anyways, we're halfway through the night, we're sleeping so good and then August stands up to turn around in the bed, and he basically just twists all the blankets off of us. And in that instant, you and I both were awake. Brad Crowell 11:29  I was so angry. Lesley Logan 11:29  And so angry and so cold. Brad Crowell 11:30  Because I had just gone to sleep. It was midnight when I pulled in, and then I was literally asleep for two hours, and then he pulled all the blankets off of all of us by twirling around. And I was so frustrated about it, and it was eight degrees out, and I was like, screw it, we're just gonna continue to drive to Denver.Lesley Logan 11:47  Erika Quest had a dream that night that we were cold. She had a dream that we were really cold. And I said, well, you don't have to worry, because Brad drove us to Denver, where it was a little bit warmer. Brad Crowell 11:56  It was 30 degrees in Denver, it was so much warmer. Lesley Logan 11:58  So much more tolerable to sleep in. At any rate, we, like, got across the country, and people are like, oh, I wish you were doing the tour. And it's like, yeah, well, it's COVID. It's very unsafe, we cannot do it. But we were able to plan how much driving is possible. What do we want to do, and how we want to do this. And then, we did in 2021.Brad Crowell 12:14  We suppose, oh, that was '21. Lesley Logan 12:17  Yeah. So then, 2021, we were vaccinated, we were ready. We planned this whole tour, but we planned a small one. It was actually, I don't think it was as big as our first one, because. Brad Crowell 12:28  No, it was only like. Lesley Logan 12:30  Seven cities or something like that, because we, we, I think our first stop was going to be Pennsylvania.Brad Crowell 12:34  It was Philly, New York, like, city, Atlanta, Miami, Dallas. We were talking about Providence, but we postponed it, so it was only five. Lesley Logan 12:45  It was really small. And we actually had to cancel Philly and New York City, because along the route, I was exposed to COVID. I didn't know that I had it. And thankfully, someone texted me, and everything was going crazy at the time that variant came up. So we still did the tour. It was quite small. The (inaudible) happened and. Brad Crowell 13:03  We have way more time at my parents house than we normally do.Lesley Logan 13:07  A lot of time it was super fun, but we knew we're like, like, we want these tours to be a thing. And I ought to share this with you, because when you're being it till you see it, way of doing things, this is how long goals can take. Brad Crowell 13:17  2018 was our first cross country drive. 2019 was the first tour, 2020 was canceled. 2021 was, was. Lesley Logan 13:25  Was already going to be a smaller tour, because of the pandemic. Brad Crowell 13:29  It was five stops max. Lesley Logan 13:31  And by the way, every stop we picked were like huge spaces that's why they were picked.Brad Crowell 13:35  Yeah, we actually picked large rooms. Lesley Logan 13:37  Huge spaces. The Philly one was like softball, baseball, indoor practice arena, it was like 3000 square feet.Brad Crowell 13:42  I think they only started vaccinating people a couple months prior. Lesley Logan 13:45  No, this summer we got vaccinated. Brad Crowell 13:47  It was the summer, yeah. Six months.Lesley Logan 13:49  Yeah, so, but there was the booster, and then there's the thing. Anyways, because it was the holidays, we wanted to be conscientious. We want to make sure people felt safe. So we're like, these studios are massive, and we're only filling half the spaces. So at any rate, we really kind of got sidelined on that first half of that tour, but we got to do it. We got to do the second half, and we got to do Miami, Atlanta and Dallas, but then we were able to meet up with Balanced Body in the march of the next year. We got to tell them what we were doing. Got to get them really excited, and that's when we actually got to actually start to make our tours even bigger and better and add the Summer Tour.Brad Crowell 14:25  So that was tour number four. Lesley Logan 14:27  Tour number four was our first Summer Tour.Brad Crowell 14:28  It was the first with Balanced Body. That was the first Summer Tour. And we've been telling Balanced Body about these tours from the beginning. Lesley Logan 14:35  October of 2019, I told them what we were doing, and Ken and Al were like, oh, can you put a Reformer in that van? Anyways, all this to say this was like years in the making. And we'll, and next episode, we'll actually go into a bit about, like, why we work with a sponsor, what our tours have like become because they are bigger. They used to be, like, two weeks long, eight cities, five cities, and then they became 14 and 18 and 22 and and now we're getting like, 800 people to come and some amazing things. Lesley Logan 15:05  I want to wrap this up with some, be it action items, because I think that that's what is really important. So you'll do some, Brad, I'll do some. We never get to do, but that's, this will buy me time, because I didn't prepare you for this. One of the best things I could say is take a note of when those little things go, oh, I want to do something like that, even if you're like, wow, that's crazy. Why would I even think of that idea? It's such a crazy idea. Pay attention to those crazy nudges and then make it something that's possible to do now, because a lot of people come with an idea, oh, I'm gonna go on a book tour and I'm gonna have sponsors, and have this, and have this. We literally had like, two prizes. We had no sponsors. Brad Crowell 15:44  Yeah, I think, I think you might have got called Toesox and, or, you know, like.Lesley Logan 15:48  Yeah, I called Toesox and Carbon38. Brad Crowell 15:50  And we just said, hey, can you give us some socks? That was the cool thing. We want to do a giveaway. Lesley Logan 15:55  We didn't have any paid sponsors. We didn't have local vendors coming through. We did not make anything bigger. Brad Crowell 16:01  We also didn't even know that that was what we should turn into. It was more like, initially, it was an excuse to not fly and drive across the country, and then it grew. And each tour became more complex. Lesley Logan 16:16  I think the Be It Action Item was like, don't over complicate something, just try the smallest version of the idea out that has the intentionality of what you want. We wanted to bring the community together, and we wanted to get across the country. And the original tours basically paid for the gas.Brad Crowell 16:32  Not even exaggerating, they paid for the gas. And the one hotel that we stayed at. Initially, that was the vision. It was literally like, how do we pay for gas? Oh, let's teach a class. Great. We made $200 on it, let's pay the gas.Lesley Logan 16:45  How do we make sure the holiday trip is a write off? Let's work a few to have, you, technically it's some work 50% of the trip, and then it's a write off. So make sure you talk to your accountant. But anyways, so my Be It Action Item is do the least complex version of the idea and see if you'd like it. Because each time we did the tour, we'd get from like Philly to Nashville in a night, that was insane we're like we're never doing that again. Lesley Logan 17:09  Like Texarkana or something weird. I remember that. Lesley Logan 17:11  Yes, and we've like 12 hours to get from Nashville to there. Brad Crowell 17:14  We drove 14 hours in one day. That was brutal. Lesley Logan 17:17  Yeah, that was brutal, because we had to teach so, so we learned from by making it not complex, we actually got to learn a lot more. That's really helped us. You'll hear about how the tours have changed. What's your Be It Action Item?Brad Crowell 17:28  Okay. So my Be It Action Item, with that, I was gonna say take messy action but I mean, that's, we're pretty famous for that. I think that persistency, you know, like we didn't know the studio owners that we were trying to teach at? It wasn't like we were calling our friends in random cities and being like, hey, can we teach there? We started just reaching out to people and saying here's what our idea is. Is this of interest to you? And it was because we were persistent that we even found a location. Because I remember it was like, No. It was like, oh, okay, all right. Well, I guess this is the wrong location. No problem. We'll find another. Because for us, we knew, okay, this is the right stop, you know, this is approximately when we would want to be stopping driving for the day, when we should be teaching somewhere near here. How do we find a spot? You know, and working backwards, there's some logic there. But also we still have to find the people. We still have to meet the people, and then we have to be creative with the marketing. I remember at first we were like, We don't know anybody in Libertyville, Ohio. How can we, you know, connect with people, or Strongsville, Ohio, sorry, yeah, you're right. And I remember we started using Instagram hashtags to just hunt down Pilates people in the area and just leave it in voice notes, like. Lesley Logan 18:45  That was very, we were very persistent. You're correct, very persistent. And then I think, just to tack onto that, and then we'll wrap this up, because we'll tell you more on the next episode, not being afraid of rejection. One of the things we had to do was, like, you're gonna have stops turn you away. Like, no, I don't want to do that. We had people go, why are you doing that? They were like, really sketchy about us. Brad Crowell 19:04  We just had it happen yesterday with our eighth tour coming up, where someone you know was like, actually, this is the wrong time of the year for my clients. So no, he's like, oh, okay. Lesley Logan 19:14  It's not personal,. All right, loves. Well, stay tuned for how these tours have gotten to be bigger and even better and better for you, and better for my sleep and all those things in our next episode. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 19:29  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 19:31  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. 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In this episode of Fuck Yeah Friday, Lesley Logan celebrates women who boldly show up with integrity and kindness, from LSU Coach Kim Mulkey's empowering game-day gestures to community wins that prove how taking action creates momentum. Hear how Mindi and Stacey turned outreach and side hustles into real success, and why Lesley's personal win is a powerful reminder that protests can build purpose and connection.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why Kim Mulkey's baby gift tradition is bigger than sports.How Mindi turned a bold move into business momentum.What happened when Stacey took action outside her comfort zone.How protesting became Lesley's unexpected win.Episode References/Links:Kim Mulkey @femalequotient - https://beitpod.com/femalequotientMindi Westfall - https://bendymindipilates.comMindi's Closet - https://www.instagram.com/mindis_closetIf you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. Hello, happy Fuck Yeah Friday. If this is your first time with Be It Till You See It podcast, hi, I'm Lesley Logan. I'm so happy you're here. I'm really excited about just, literally, the amazing reviews we're getting, and how many people who've been guests on this pod love this pod, so that flatters me, but that means that you're here because someone told you about this. And so, thank you for being here. And on Fridays, we keep it light, we keep it bright, we keep it short, and we get to the point, because you have a lot going on, but this is supposed to be just a moment in your week when you just take time to realize what could be wins, what could be inspiring, that there are things out there always happening for us, right? Lesley Logan 1:24  So I start this off with something that inspired me on the internet, and then I share some wins that you sent in. I share a win of mine, and then I leave you with a mantra. Boom, we got four chapters. Lesley Logan 1:33  So this particular one that caught my eye, this is actually the second time this one's caught my eye. Her name is Kim Mulkey. She's a coach for LSU. You're probably like, Lesley, I got it. And if you don't listen to sports, then you might not know. But she got my eye a week ago, and I didn't put it in the FYFs because it's kind of just miffed me. But she, you know, she's talking about how she lost in one of the March Madness things, and she's like, oh, it's bad. And he goes, well, yeah, I mean, you lost. And she's like, well, have you ever made it to Round Eight? And, you know, anything? And he's like, no. She's like, well, then sounds like we did pretty much better than you. I just like that she clapped back. So I was like, ah, like, this woman, she's spicy. Anyways, this came across that she brings baby gifts to every coach on opposing teams that she's playing against who are expecting. And because ultimately, she believes, like we're on the same team. And I think it's so cool that this woman can take a moment outside of the competition to go, I see you mama over there. And here's a gift from me, because the reality is, is like, all these different women who choose to have children in their life, and they want to do that, and they want to coach, and they want to, at this elite level, they need their team. And so I just think that it's really cool, and what a badass she is. She claps back at stupid reporter questions, and she takes the time before a game to go and give the opposing coaches, this is like, there's multiple videos of her doing this, not just one coach, opposing coaches on other teams who are expecting, a baby gift. And I just think that's cool. You know, I'm not a mama, but I think that's really amazing. Lesley Logan 3:00  So now let's go to some wins of yours. By the way, my team really tries to link in the show notes these posts, if you actually want to see them. They exist. Okay, so from Mindi, Bendy Mindi, and also Mindi's Closet, she went, Pilates On Tour here in Colorado was an incredible for my clothing biz. Because of that, I will be able to go, be going to the Chicago P.O.T. in October. I love combining my passions and meeting so many wonderful people in the process. Thank you, LL and Brad, for your continued support and encouragement. You guys, it's really easy to go, oh, that thing that I want to do that could grow my business is actually an investment I can't afford right now, and be afraid to make that, and then also to make the investment, and go, ooh, I just did it. Only how's it gonna turn out? But not only did she do it, took her, you know, she felt the fear, and she did it anyway, but she actually had such a success. We're at a booth right next to her. We got to watch how successful the event was. And as someone that we get to coach, we actually got to talk about, okay, how do you make this win propel you to the next event? And that's something we work on in Agency, because it's really easy to go, oh my God, I got all this like, I got this windfall, and then spend it on places before you reinvest in your business. We did this with our flash cards. It was really easy for us to support her on. So we'll get to have a booth next to her in October in Chicago, and she gets to continue to grow this amazing side business she has. It's really inspiring to others. I'm actually currently wearing one of her shirts. She actually made it for the OPC team. Look at how cute that is, if you're watching, how cute that is. So cute. Anyways, go Mindi. So excited. Lesley Logan 4:25  Let's get you another win, you guys. This one is from Stacey Extence. She says, my wins after encouragement from LL. I did something I've never done, sent a message to people I know in my area via Facebook Messenger. I sent my flyer for a fundraising event I'm doing for CCP, inviting them to join. I got several responses from folks who I wasn't expecting. I'm receiving their email so I can include them in future announcements. Got my flyer printed and we'll place it in the studio tomorrow for the fundraiser, and began planning my open house after having a wonderful call with Mindi. I love how community works together, you guys. Received some great advice and ideas to base my open house on, had my annual mammogram. Woohoo for self-care. One new client who's been attending my beginner series weekly is new to Pilate and is loving it. She messages after each class letting me know how thankful she is for giving Pilates a try. She also wants to stick with my classes. And one new beginner, semi-private client, was the only person in class last week. I did a pivot during the session because of her tight hamstrings. I proved my knowledge about the session by focusing on strengthening and lengthening her back line. At the end of the class, she inquired about privates, hoping I can talk her into adding those into her schedule. Woohoo. I love that you did that pivot so that she could see the power of what can happen when things are tailored to her. I love that you call your annual mammogram a win because it is. Ladies, we gotta do these things. Thank you for reminding me to set mine up. I also would like to just say, like way to do the thing that feels weird. You DM people you didn't know. You email people you didn't know. These are the things that people don't do because they get scared of it, and you did it. And I promise you, even if those people don't return those emails, you're, you're telling the energy around you. I am accepting new clients. Look at the space I'm creating, look at what I'm doing to tell people who I am and what I rock at. So Stacey, that does work itself out, I promise you, it always, always does. It works in like, mysterious ways, which I love. Thank you for sharing, ladies. Lesley Logan 6:14  All right, a win of mine. So actually, this is a really fun one. I was just talking to Brad before I got to record this, and I was like, okay, I need some wins. And one of the wins that we wanted to share with you guys is that we have been protesting and having fun doing it. We don't have control over what the dickheads are doing in this planet that are fucking with like everything and excuse my language, but even if you don't agree with me on a lot of things, I think what we can agree with is I'm worried about my parents retirement. I'm worried about my family's retirement. I'm worried about that, right? Like I'm worried, I'm not worried about mine, because I'm not retiring anytime soon, but I'm worried about the people who it affects right now. And I can call and I can email and I can bitch and I can moan, or I could do something, and what I can do is on a Saturday protest, and so we actually went to our first protest in April, and it was really fun, and we've been doing it ever since, and it feels good. I highly recommend finding a protest near you, because it feels good to shout out the thing that is like pissing you off and to be around people who are also equally pissed off, but more importantly, not in a way that you're just like being Debbie Downers and just being negative, like actually doing something about it, because we can't take them out of their jobs. So what can we do? And it's really important, because it's helping people feel so seen people who don't have the ability to protest, people who who are being affected like they are, like seeing people fight for them, and that gives them hope. And I think it's really cool. Also, we told people we're protesting, and we ran into other people who we know, who we didn't know were going to be there. So we end up having a wonderful afternoon, spending time with our friends, who are all usually too busy to see, doing something that didn't cost us anything but our time, right? It didn't cost us money. We had to buy a ticket. We didn't have to go to a fancy dinner. We actually got to walk around a neighborhood, really bring attention to things that are bothering us. And so I am so excited that we got to do that, because it just felt like, you know, in 2016 when these were happening, I was traveling so much, I didn't get to participate in that. And then I remember when these were coming up, I was like, I don't even know how to do this. Like, where do I go? So I was doing a lot of research on, like, what to bring to a protest. What can you say? All these different things. And I highly recommend reading those accounts if you want to do it. But I will just say, if you are feeling like you don't have community, find a protest, you will immediately feel like you have it. It was so good. And that is my win. Lesley Logan 8:21  Okay. Your mantra. I seek out mystery in the ordinary. I seek out mystery in the ordinary. I seek out mystery in the ordinary. You guys, you probably are like my days are boring. No, seek, like, be curious about that. There's probably something new you never even knew was there. Thank you so much for being you. Thank you for listening to this podcast. You are part of its growth and its success, but the more it succeeds, the more it means we can bring to you to support you on your journey of being the person you want to be before waiting for someone to deem you. At this podcast, we do not wait for someone to deem us ready, we act as if we are and we do it scared, we take messy action and we celebrate the wins we have big and small, right? We celebrate them big and small. And so thank you so much for being a listener, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 9:10  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. 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You can't change everything about yourself all at one time. You have to pick and choose and go, okay, well, what can I do here? Like, if you look at BJ Fogg, if he's like, I'm frustrated because I'm working on this project and I'm not sleeping enough, so I want to sleep better. He actually was like, okay, how, what are all the different ways I could sleep better? Well, he's not going to do all of those things. He, actually, to make a habit, had to go what are the three easiest things of what I just came up with that I want to do, and then how can I do that? Lesley Logan 0:26  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:09  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the hilariously intentional convo I had with Launa Jae in our last episode. If you haven't listened to that one you've missed the fuck out.Brad Crowell 1:21  You totally missed out. Lesley Logan 1:22  It's so good. I mean, we're two good friends, so that's always a fun conversation to be in. But also, she just has the most hilarious way of putting things in a way that just makes you stop and take it all in. And we are just obsessed with her. So anyway, Brad Crowell 1:36  Yes, 100%.Lesley Logan 1:37  If you're not following her on Instagram, you are missing out, because her stories are my favorite. Every morning, to this day, she still does good morning to everyone except and it's something, and then there's other people who also do this and tag her, and so she reposts theirs. And then I just die laughing. So anyways, you gotta go follow her. Gotta go follow her. I promise you, it's really great. And she gives great tips and great hacks on gaining protein in your life, because all, y'all ladies over 40, it's a fucking feat to get enough protein every day. Brad Crowell 2:04  And if you're watching YouTube, I'm wearing a shirt you referenced. Lesley Logan 2:08  Oh, that's so funny. What a great timing.  Brad Crowell 2:11  Yeah, punch nails, I'm sorry, paint nails, punch Nazis. Lesley Logan 2:14  We should have that guy on the pod. Brad Crowell 2:16  We should have that guy on the pod.Lesley Logan 2:17  Yeah, we should send him.Brad Crowell 2:19  We'll work that out.Lesley Logan 2:20  His name, I think, is Jonathan Gregory or Gregory Jonathan, it's one of those handles that I'm like, he must have gotten famous after he made this weird handle. So, yeah, I gotta get him on. Okay, let's get back to, (inaudible) first we're going to talk about how today is June 5th, my dad's birthday.Brad Crowell 2:35  Oh, it is your dad's birthday.Lesley Logan 2:38  Brad. He's like, oh my God, all these days. It's like, this person's from the reality TV show day. I'm like, how does that person have a day and I don't have a day?Brad Crowell 2:45  It was Veggie Burger Day, and at the same exact day, Sausage Roll Day. I was like, did they do that on purpose? I think they did.Lesley Logan 2:52  I think Launa Jae would agree that you could have a veggie burger or a sausage roll. If you are doing your protein, right, you can. But today is Happy Birthday, Dad. You are 73. Way to go. But it's also World Environment Day. This day urges all of us to protect our natural surroundings. The stunning facts, an estimated 7 million people die each year from causes related to air pollution, with a majority occurring in the Asian Pacific region. This day encourages worldwide activism that means everything from littering to climate change. World Environment Day is both a global celebration and a platform for public outreach. You guys, plant plants that are local to your freaking place. That is one of the best things you can do. You know, it's really great, because in the water, we live in Vegas, we are increasingly aware of our water, what plants we have. On windy days, you got to go out there and pick up the trash, like, take care of the world around you. It's really hard when you think about, like, oh my God, the global warming. I can't, we can't fix everything, so you got to at least get your neighbors on board. How much water are you using? How much are you planting? How much trash are we throwing away, you know.Brad Crowell 3:54  Yeah, get rid of your grass in your front yard, you don't need it. Lesley Logan 3:56  Yeah, get rid of it. Also. It doesn't even absorb water. There was a whole episode on the Love It or Lose It odcast years ago about how actual grass is not trapping water. So that was news to me.Brad Crowell 4:09  Yeah, you know, Lesley Logan 4:10  Educate yourself on little things you can do.Brad Crowell 4:12  Well, it's a hill that the city of Vegas is dying on. They enacted a law that says you have to, by 2026, I think all front yards have to be non-grass.Lesley Logan 4:22  Yeah, we got a neighbor, you guys, their grass is so green all year long. And it is infuriating to me. It's infuriating to me. First of all, when I walk the dog in the morning, though the sidewalk is soaking wet because of how they water, and how they water is why their grass is so green. And it's not like a little yard. It's like a full on eighth of an acre of grass. It's perfectly green.Brad Crowell 4:42  I know exactly which house you mean. Lesley Logan 4:43  Yeah, oh, yeah. And because they water so much, there's something wrong with their sidewalk, it's literally slippery. You can literally slip while walking. And I'm just like, I can't wait till this grass is gone. I'm going to report you. January 1st 2026, first day I see that grass. My neighbor has grass.Brad Crowell 4:59  I don't know if it's Jan. 21 or Jan. 1st, but, yeah.Lesley Logan 5:00  I'm gonna be that Karen. That's the Karen I'm gonna be. Brad Crowell 5:05  That's the Karen (inaudible). Lesley Logan 5:06  If you got fucking front yard grass, I'm coming. Anyways, these are the things we can do and educate yourself on your water usage, but also, just like what you can do in your environment, you know, we all can't drive electric cars. All that, it's not, don't worry about the things you can't do, focus on the things you can. And it actually feels really great. Okay, oh, we have events. You guys, we're going on tour. Brad Crowell 5:27  Yeah, we got a lot going on. Lesley Logan 5:28  You'll hear more about that soon, but the tickets are already for sale, they've been on sale for a couple weeks. And it's a huge Summer Tour. It's not a small Summer Tour, it's a huge Summer Tour. But the spaces are limited, because when you go to cities on the West Coast, what you will learn, like some places in the northeast, is that rent is hard and expensive, and so spaces are small, which means space is limited. So you want to get in on this tour and snag your spots and the classes and workshops before they sell out, opc.me/events.Brad Crowell 5:55  opc.me/events Lesley Logan 5:56  Also, I really think our tour shirt is epic.Brad Crowell 5:59  It's a really cool tour shirt. I'm very excited about this.  Lesley Logan 6:02  This is my new favorite thing. I look up tour shirts from other things, and then I tell the team do this. And I don't think anyone notices what I'm doing, but I know what I'm doing. And then in September, you guys, we're going to be in the U.K. Leeds only has a few spots left. Essex, we actually opened up the opportunity to do day spot. So you can either do the full day Tuesday, the full day Wednesday, you want to go to opc.me/uk and again, also, not very many spots. So if you do the full weekend pass, or two day pass, you get six workshops, two classes. But if you do the day pass, you get three workshops and a class. So you want to snag those spots. We're not coming back for quite a bit, not because we don't like you, just. Brad Crowell 6:43  Don't know when. Do not know when. . Lesley Logan 6:45  Don't know when. That's how the world goes.   Brad Crowell 6:46  Last time we waited two years. Lesley Logan 6:49  Yeah. Also, before summer tour and U.K., I'm hosting a workout and a Q&A session for teachers, this is for Pilates teachers who are interested in my mentorship program. We are more than half sold out at the time that we are recording this. In fact, like, not, there's actually not a lot of spots in next year, but we're going to.  Brad Crowell 7:06  Yeah, there's literally, there's less than nine spots left.Lesley Logan 7:09  Yeah, so less than nine spots. And we're gonna have.Brad Crowell 7:11  I say that because I'm talking to a handful of people, and there are currently nine, and I think they're going to be booked, so. Lesley Logan 7:17  Yeah. Yeah. So here's the deal, go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist to get on the waitlist to get the information about the free class and the Q&A session. If you are someone who wants to take the class and ask questions, that's gonna be great. If you're someone who's like, I want in on this. I don't want to wait. Well, you know how to hunt us down, because that's clearly how it's filling up behind closed doors. But lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist this is for comprehensively trained teachers who want to not freaking talk so much, be in imposter syndrome, over work themselves out, all the things, yeah, come and join us. Okay, Brad, your turn. Brad Crowell 7:53  All right. So I'm very excited to make this special announcement. We have decided to bring back Agency Mini.Lesley Logan 8:01  I know you guys, this is really exciting. We said, no, it's done, and it was, and it, actually, the Agency, Mini, you know, and was very loved.Brad Crowell 8:09  It's still done. Lesley Logan 8:09  It's still done. This is a, this is a new Mini, new and improved. Brad Crowell 8:13  This is a mini Mini. Lesley Logan 8:14  It's like, it's a, it is a mini mini. An M-I-N-I M-I-N-I mini Mini. And that is because we took all the, all the things people loved about Mini, and got rid of all the things people didn't love about Mini. So no more Facebook groups, no more seven days. No more overwhelm. This is a three-day Mini. You're gonna get a workshop on day one. You have homework on day two. You will have a office, a group call on day three, there's like couple extra days of replays you'll have some access to, and that's it, and it's (claps) awesome, quick.Brad Crowell 8:47  Easy and effective and really exciting. What we're going to be digging into is some of the foundational marketing things that you need to know on how to attract your own clients. Like, how do I attract the right clients for me, clients that actually want to work with, clients who pay me without complaining, clients who show up on time. How do I do all of that? Right? And we're going to dig in. I cannot wait. This is one of the, one of the favorite topics that Lesley and I have spoken on over the years.Lesley Logan 9:13  And if, even if you're like, oh, I slay at my marketing, if you don't actually help the clients you want to be teaching, or people who treat you or making the money you want to make, you need to be at this Mini, because we're going to actually fill in the holes. We're like, oh, I didn't do that. Oh, that's the thing. It's going to be amazing.Brad Crowell 9:28  Yeah. So by the time this comes out, I think we're still on the waitlist, believe it or not. So it'll be.Lesley Logan 9:34  The early bird will be opening, like, in the next week or two, so you probably want to go to prfit.biz/mini, to get on the waitlist, and or if it's open, you'll see how to buy in right there. It's going to be in July, the middle of July, before we take off on tour, and it's going.Brad Crowell 9:47  Early bird is 25 bucks. So don't miss it.   Lesley Logan 9:50  Yeah. Don't miss it, because we don't want you to actually pay the full price. That's why we have the early bird. We want you to plan ahead.Brad Crowell 9:54  60% off. Lesley Logan 9:55  Yeah, I love how we did this out of calendar order today. But you know what? It keeps you on your toes.Brad Crowell 10:01  What? Lesley Logan 10:02  Well, we started with the tour, which is after Mini.Brad Crowell 10:04  Oh yeah 100%. We did. Lesley Logan 10:06  Anyways. But for sure, at the end of this year is Cambodia in October. You guys, if this is your first time hearing about this, and you've never heard about how amazing our retreat in Siem Reap is, it's amazing. If you have heard us every single week, you know it's amazing. And if you're like I really want to do this, come, come, come, come. I know everything is crazy and uncertain. Let me just tell you right now, the flight prices to Asia are the same, whether you buy them today or six weeks before. Why? Because people have done that. Want you to go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot because the small group, we're taking a very, very small group this October, we want you there, and it's going to be such a great time to just get rid of all the chaos and be in the coolest place in the whole world. Brad Crowell 10:45  It's so true and it's so cool.  Lesley Logan 10:46  We've been to a lot of places. Brad Crowell 10:47  If you want to deep dive on that, go back a couple weeks and there's some solo episodes from Lesley and from me about our love for why we do this trip, all the things. So dig in on that. All right. Well, before we get any further, we had an audience question. So @emilyanahata from YouTube asks, hey, how do I know which chair is the right for me? And I'm assuming she's talking about a Pilates chair. What are some questions I can ask myself to get a better idea? Thank you. And I am going to jump in. I'm just going to say, traditionally, you want a chair that has four legs, right? And then maybe a seat. That'll be good. That's the kind of chair you want. Those are great questions. Doesn't have four. You might be able to get away with three, but I don't think two is going to cut it.Lesley Logan 11:30  No, yeah, the three, that's more like a stool.   Brad Crowell 11:34  That's a stool. Lesley Logan 11:34  Yeah. Okay, so this is really great. And actually, she followed up with some really interesting questions, which is, like, she's heard that, like, should she get a Split Pedal EXO Chair? She did this. And so I actually followed up with like, are you a teacher? So here's the deal, what I know is, I'm gonna answer this in two ways. If you're a teacher, then you actually should get the Chair that best suits your style of teaching. And what I often see teachers do is they get a Chair that they can afford versus a Chair that was designed for their self-teaching. If, so Emily's not a teacher, so the Split Pedal, if you were trained to teach on Split Pedals, if you like to teach on Split Pedals, then get a Chair with Split Pedals, because you'll be annoyed that the pedal doesn't split, it doesn't do what you want. But if you are not trained on a Split Pedal, then the Split Pedal is actually going to be frustrating, because it's going to feel different, sound different than what you're used to. And Emily's not a teacher, so then it's just going to be confusing, and then she won't use a Chair without having been trained on how to use the Chair. And I want people who love Pilates to have access at home to equipment that they want and they can use, and it's not confusing. So this is not a knock against Split Pedals EXO Chairs. Obviously, we know and love Balanced Body. We are, we have affiliate links with them. We are dear, dear friends with the founders, and we are sponsored for the tour. So get that if you want to use it, but if you are just like, I want to get stronger. I want to work on my posture. I want to work on my strength. My suggestion is going to be the Contrology Chair because without seeing you, Emily, the dimensions are great for every body, no matter if you're big or small, hyper mobile, tall or short, the pedal angle is just really great.Brad Crowell 13:11  It's also very solid. Lesley Logan 13:12  It's really solid. Brad Crowell 13:13  You're not gonna have to worry about it, like, you know.Lesley Logan 13:15  And it's super, it's not confusing. You don't have four springs to choose from. Like, I find that if you are not trained as a teacher on that equipment, it becomes confusing. If there's lots of spring choices, it's two springs, three hooks on either side. Really easy to figure out what you need to be doing. But for anyone listening, having a chair that's right for you, the easiest answer is like, I just love a Contrology, I love a Contrology Chair. You can stand on it. I could put a heavy person on it, I could put a tall person on it. It's gonna be great. Put a short person on it.Brad Crowell 13:40  I did a handstand on one.Lesley Logan 13:42  Yeah, you totally did it, and it was fine. But questions to ask yourself are, is the pedal angle gonna be appropriate for the height and flexibility of my hips? Right? Is the top of the chair big enough to support my full seat? Can I lay on it on my front? Can I lay it on my back? Does the Chair feel sturdy if I stand on top, if I go to step on top of it does it feel like it's sturdy? Some of these Chairs are really light. I've seen some interesting ones now that are floating around that are a few 100 bucks. I worry about the weight of the body. I'm not talking a larger body. I'm talking like just any body. So some questions to ask yourself, are like, can it withstand the weight of my body standing on it, and then can I adjust the springs tension so that it meets me where I am, or is it like kind of the same spring tension, whether you use like, if you only have one or two? So anyways, those are some things to ask yourself, but always happy to give you my links, you guys, to anything that Balanced Body makes, and that's our Contrology line as well. Brad Crowell 14:37  Yeah, awesome, well. Lesley Logan 14:39  I just want to say I love that she's gonna get herself a Chair, because everyone's so fucking obsessed with having a home reformer. And then they're like, I need it to fit under my bed. And it's like, uh, no, if you have a small space, get a Wunda Chair, get a Spine Corrector, get a Two by Four, get a Sand bag, get a Ped-o-Pull. So many things you can get yourself, and then you could go take a Reformer at a studio, right? Okay. Brad Crowell 14:58  I dig it. Well, look. Stick around. We'll be right back. Lesley Logan 15:01  Oh, Brad, hold on. Brad Crowell 15:02  What? Lesley Logan 15:02  You guys, we have a link for you guys to submit your questions, because some of you have been like, how do I submit my question?  Brad Crowell 15:08  Yes, we do. Lesley Logan 15:08  Where do I submit them? And it is. Brad Crowell 15:10  We totally do. Lesley Logan 15:12  beitpod.com/questions you can also send. Brad Crowell 15:16  beitpod.com/questions plural. Lesley Logan 15:17  You can also submit your wins. There's a spot whether it's a question or a win. So, beitpod.com/questions with the s at the end and then send it. Brad Crowell 15:25  Yeah, submit your wins. Submit your question. Lesley Logan 15:27  Yep, anything, anything goes. Sometimes it doesn't have to be Pilates-related. Anything goes.  Brad Crowell 15:30  Good job. Good remembering.Lesley Logan 15:31  Let's talk about Launa. Brad Crowell 15:33  Stick around. We'll be right back, because we're gonna talk about shit and rainbows in just a minute.  Brad Crowell 15:38  Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Launa Jae. Launa is a Dallas-based nutrition and fitness coach who specializes in helping people get unstuck without feeling restricted. What does that mean? She is an anti-diet coach and a food freedom expert for high-achieving women. She's passionate about helping others make progress, stay accountable and create sustainable results in both health and in life, and she's hilarious, like, hilarious.Lesley Logan 16:09  She's so funny. That's why the shit and rainbows come from. Also, she, you could even listen to her first episode being on here. Like, there's just so many things that she says, and her descriptive words are perfect. So one of the things that I love that she said is negative emotion is literally just an indication that you're out of alignment with who you are in your true inner being, experiencing debilitating negative emotions that led to stress, and then that led to physical illness. And then she realized a common denominator in all of them was her. So she was prioritizing her to-do list over her well being. So she would wake up, check emails and prioritize her to do list and not like what she needed. And it's so fun to see her. She's obviously switched this. And so you can actually see it in her Instagram if you follow her, she's like, well, I'm at the gym. Didn't want to be here, but I'm doing the workout even though I didn't want to be here, because she's prioritizing herself, right? She's making sure she gets what she needs. And so after doing all this, she was able. I love the self-reflection. I think that's really hard to do, so I love that she self-reflected, and then she concluded that these negative feelings signaled a disconnect between her actions and her authentic self. So who she was telling people what to do for them themselves, and then what she was doing for herself. When we're when we have that dissonance, our brain doesn't like it. It is overwhelming, and we get resentful, and that's negative, right? So instead of just brushing off us having a bad day, she used those feelings as signals that something was out of alignment. And I think it's really cool, if you can figure out in your day and in your life, like, oh, when I feel like this, it's like a little yellow light, hello. This is a sign you're out of alignment. You guys, at the park that I walk the dog at every 30 minutes. This voice comes on these speakers. Brad Crowell 17:41  It does? Lesley Logan 17:42  Yes. Brad Crowell 17:42  At our park? Lesley Logan 17:43  Yes. Brad Crowell 17:44  Like, over the loud speakers in the park? Lesley Logan 17:45  Yes. Brad Crowell 17:46  That's like, creepy.Lesley Logan 17:47  So fucking creepy. It's a little bit like in South Korea when I crossed the street when it was a red light, and this Korean voice, like, came out of nowhere. And I was like, I don't know what you're saying, but I could, like, in the U.S., I could cross the street right now, no one's coming. Anyways, this voice goes, dude, it's like, do-ding-do and then she goes, da-da-da-da-da. She, I don't know what she's saying, but the point of this whole story is, like, find something in your day that can be a sign that, like, oop, I've stepped over the line of being out of alignment. And it could go ding-dong-ding-ding-ding-ding. Brad Crowell 18:22  I don't really know what's happening right now.Lesley Logan 18:23  Listen, let me finish. Let me finish. You are out of alignment. You haven't prioritized yourself. Brad Crowell 18:29  Like an elevator chime.Lesley Logan 18:30  Yes, like an elevator chime. And then like a lovely. Brad Crowell 18:33  You are out of alignment. This, to me, is like a sci-fi movie where it's like, welcome to the ground floor. And then, like.Lesley Logan 18:41  You, Brad, you said you wanted to cold plunge, and you have not done that yet, turn around, go back in there, take care of yourself first.Brad Crowell 18:51  You will hate yourself later if you don't cold plunge now.  Lesley Logan 18:54  You're gonna complain later and Lesley is gonna roll her eyes, you know. So she found her way of understanding that she's out of alignment. We all need a little flashing light, elevator sound, woman in the park. I wish I can tell you what she's saying.Brad Crowell 19:07  Woman in the park coming at you with surround sound. Lesley Logan 19:11  Yeah, it's really rare. It's really weird. It's probably saying you're not supposed to be here right now.Brad Crowell 19:14  I know, right? The park doesn't open until 6:15. Lesley Logan 19:18  A park opens when the sun rises and I'm there before it so clearly, it's for me, anyways. Brad Crowell 19:22  All right, so here's what I really dug. She's talking about urgency culture, and I found that an interesting term, because if it's culture, that means we created it, right? It's also it's learned. I reflected a lot about this, like, wow, there is a sense of we're only here on this planet one time. So I get that, like, driving, like, gotta get things done, you know, kind of a vibe. But also, too, I think if you look at the difference between the United States and Europe on on how people work, you know, we work 40 hours a week. We never take vacations. We work when we're sick, all these kinds of things that are way different from a mentality, from a cultural perspective, the idea of urgency culture kind of scares me. That's not an exciting thing to think about. It also made me reflect on how caught up am I in that myself? Lesley Logan 20:14  Oh, yeah.Brad Crowell 20:15  This idea of never taken any time off or constantly working. You know, we're just listening to one of our coaches, Brad Bizjak.  Lesley Logan 20:23  He's gonna be on the pod soon, guys, stay tuned. Brad Crowell 20:25  Awesome episode coming. Really excited about that. We were listening to one of his episodes on urgency and the importance of leaving yourself time off as well. So anyway, all this being said with Launa Jae, she said, hey, we've created this never ending to do list, and it's stripping us from the human connection, from enjoying our day to day, from being present in the moment. It is funny. It's like we've decided we can, you know, be, quote-unquote, this efficient, so we can do these amount of things every day, whatever those things are, right? If you're working for a company, they always tell you schedule 80% of their expected work time, because 20% will something will get in the way, and they won't actually be able to do all the things. But we still packed in that 80% right. When we are thinking about our day in that manner, it doesn't leave any room for life to be, like, to happen, and also self-reflection. And I think that's the, when she's talking about stripping us from the human connection, enjoying the day to day, from being present in the moment. You know you have to reflect on the things that are happening to you. Like, for example, I mean, I wasn't in in the best physical, like, well-being on this day trip that we took, but we changed altitudes. I opened my water bottle and it exploded all, literally, all over my lap. So, like, and it wasn't a small amount of water. I was literally sitting in a puddle of water. And, like, I'm driving. You know, that could have been hilarious, but I was upset about it. I was, like, really frustrated.Lesley Logan 21:54  I started to laugh at the background. Brad Crowell 21:56  You did start laughing. Lesley Logan 21:56  Because we have done this before. So to me.  Brad Crowell 21:59  I had no idea we changed altitude. It wasn't like a thing I could check, but the realities that happened, and instead of it being funny, it was frustrating because I'm like, I have to drive, I have to do this, and I'm trying to take a drink of water, and then boom. And instead of appreciating the hilarity of the moment, I didn't, you know, when Launa Jae was talking about this, she explained, we're constantly rushing to complete tasks and focusing solely on our to-do list, which is stripping us of being present and by being intentional about what we're doing. Right? So this intentionality she's talking about then, why are we doing what, what we're doing while we're doing it, it'll help us be more present in the moment. So now she's limiting distractions. She's trying to be in the moment more. And the number one thing she said is especially because she works in social media, the number one thing she said is just limiting those notifications and hiding her phone that allows her to stay present, stay in the moment, be having a conversation and thinking about the conversation she's having. Instead of constantly being interrupted, even if you're not necessarily addressing it, you're still processing it. Your brain is still processing it in the moment. So I like that she's prioritizing peace and laughter. You know, I think those are great things.Lesley Logan 23:10  Yeah. If you're a high-achieving person or an ex athlete, or any of those things. I think it's so cool to listen to because we're all human. You can't change everything about yourself all at one time. You have to pick and choose and go, okay, well, what can I do here? Like, if you look at BJ Fogg, and he's like, I'm frustrated because I'm working on this project, and I'm not sleeping enough, so I want to sleep better. He actually was like, okay, how, what are the all the different ways I could sleep better? Well, he's not going to do all of those things. He, actually, to make a habit had to go what are the three easiest things of what I just came up with that I want to do? And then how can I do that? So that's how he talks about how you can make changes in your life. And so if you want to be more present, what are all the different ways you'd be more present? Well, one of the things is to limit the notifications in your phone, because you're less distracted, right? So I think it's just a really cool you can start to see yourself in different things that Launa is explaining, and then you might be able to address it as well. I got an ad for a phone booth, a phone box. It's, it's really beautiful wood, but I would it's, it's.Brad Crowell 24:08  What are you? What is it? Lesley Logan 24:09  It looks like, it kind of looks like a hobbit door, you know, like those old, how like in Harry Potter.Brad Crowell 24:16  Oh, you put your phone in it? Lesley Logan 24:17  Yeah, and you open it up, and there's these little slats, and it could fit six phones, and then there's a hole in the back for a charging cable to come through. I looked at it as, like, well, how much is this phone booth? Because that's kind of cute. Like a place we could put our phones. We were not distracted. Like, it's a cute little box. I mean, you could probably you could probably just put them in any kind of box, you guys, because first of all, it was $75 I was like, I'm out on that. Second of all, you still have to put the cord through. So the like, to me, the box should just charge my phone. So when that happens, then I don't want to have to find more cords over the cords. But at any rate, find a place to put your phone if you want to be less distracted.  Brad Crowell 24:51  Love it. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about those Be It Actions with Launa Jae. Brad Crowell 24:56  All right, so let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Launa Jae? She said, hey, being where you are, 10 toes down. First time she said it, I understood what she said, but it took me a minute to like process it. Again, she's talking about really being present. She said, wherever those toes are, that's where your focus needs to be, right? She shared how this quote became a daily anchor for her to stay grounded in the moment instead of rushing from one task to another. I'm here, 10 toes down, right? It's a cool little phrase that allows you to be like, oh yeah, remind myself to be in the moment, to be here. She said it helps her stay present and ask herself, why am I doing the thing that I'm doing right now? Why am I doing this? Right? I'm here, so my 10 toes are down here. Is this where I should be? Why am I doing what I'm doing? Right? She also emphasized the importance of being intentional about your time and reflecting on the time that you're spending in different places. So she said this kind of purposeful focus gave her the space to reflect, process her emotions and communicate more clearly, especially in moments of stress. So, good for her. I think it's a cool little phrase. 10 toes down. She's good at those, yeah, like the horse pill without water. Lesley Logan 26:16  She also said to stay curious everything can teach you more about yourself. I think this is so key, because we might not like how we react to things, we might not like how something is going, but we could be curious about like, well, why don't I like that? Well, what's going on there? And there's so much information out there in this world today that you could probably figure out, like, well, what is that saying? And like, what's going on? And so I think just everything, even the things we don't like, can teach us more about ourselves. In fact, I actually think the thing things not going right, things not going well, things that blow up in our faces, like, they all kind of teach us a little bit more than like, when everything goes really well, if everything is good all the time, you kind of often don't know as much about yourself. So want to also encourage us to create awareness around where we are and get clear on where you want to go. So maybe take a second of like, okay, I'm going to this meeting. The goal of this meeting is X, Y and Z. This is why I'm going to this meeting. This is what I want. And then have some clarity there, and then be 10 toes down and reminded us that grace and consistency go a long way. That is very true. It actually is really hard to pick yourself up quickly if you're beating yourself up. The teams in sports that do the best, don't focus on yesterday's loss. They focus on the goal of today. You know, as they learn from yesterday's loss, they watch tapes, they take feedback, but if they're beating themselves up over a wrong turn or a bad pitch, they're going to take that with them into the next game, versus going okay, today's game is to beat this team, and this team is really good at x, y and z, and when I'm up against that, this is what I know because you learned about yourself. So it all goes together, and grace is and is going to help you be more consistent, for sure. And she also said there's going to be really hard days but what matters most is what you do with them. And I think that's such a good reminder.Lesley Logan 27:53  You know, Launa Jae, you're so fun, you're so fabulous. You guys, I think you're going to really love listening to her episode. If you haven't listened to it already. Also go back into the archives and grab another episode out of her if you really enjoy what she's saying and follow her, because her stories are really fun.Brad Crowell 28:08  Yeah, her first time on the pod was episode 53.   Lesley Logan 28:12  Whoa and what episode is this? Brad Crowell 28:15  533 Lesley Logan 28:16  So she is, that's.  Brad Crowell 28:18  Almost 500 episodes. Lesley Logan 28:20  No, that's like 53 and three. She's 50, episode 53 and then 533. There's another 50. Launa, go play the 53 at the lottery, I think. Brad Crowell 28:30  Awesome. Well, thanks for joining us today.  Lesley Logan 28:33  I'm Lesley Logan Brad Crowell 28:34  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 28:35  Oh my goodness. I was like, okay, Brad is gonna wrap this up, but that's not how this goes. You guys know what to do. Leave us a review. Make sure you tell Launa Jae, like, what your favorite takeaways were, what maybe your favorite quip is, and share this with a friend who needs to hear it like, who needs a pep talk, who needs to slow down and like, take in how they're doing things and be more present with themselves. That's how this podcast grows and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 28:57  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 28:59  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 29:41  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 29:46  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 29:50  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 29:58  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 30:01  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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In this episode, Lesley Logan welcomes back mindset and wellness coach Launa Jae for a deep dive into alignment, burnout, and how hustle culture can disconnect us from ourselves. They explore what it means to study life instead of just passing the test, how to identify stress signals before they spiral, and why staying curious can help you reclaim your energy and peace. If you've been doing all the right things but still feel off, this one's for you.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How burnout signals misalignment and what to do about it.Why negative emotion is a cue for curiosity, not judgment.Social media habits that sabotage presence and energy.What it really means to practice what you preach.How to let go of urgency to create space for growth.Episode References/Links:Launa Jae Website: https://beitpod.com/activelifesportsLauna Jae Instagram - https://instagram.com/launajae_Ep. 53: Launa Jae - https://beitpod.com/launajaeGuest Bio:Launa Jae McClung is a Dallas-based nutrition and fitness coach, founder of LVLX Wellness, and creator of the 3F Nutrition Method. With over eight years of experience, she has coached more than 300 women to break free from binge-guilt cycles and restrictive eating, helping them build sustainable, intentional habits through personalized macro-based coaching.Previously, Launa created and led The Active Lifestyle Program for a physical therapy company—building a fully online coaching experience rooted in sustainable habits, mindset work, and lifestyle alignment. She now brings that same real-world strategy and heart to her private practice, supporting high-achieving women in shifting from burnout to balance through clarity, compassion, and empowered action. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:53  All right, Be It babe. I'm really excited about this. It's one of my dear friends who's gonna be on the pod, and mostly she and I were just talking about a couple topics that we were both, you know, interested in ourselves, we're working on with ourselves, and we thought, why don't we have this conversation with you guys? And that's because we're all works in progress, right? I know that you're gonna laugh. I know that you're gonna if you are feeling low, the energy of the two of us together is going to make you feel high. I promise you, you won't get a word in edgewise. And we are fast talkers, so if that bothers you, you know, maybe slow the speed down wherever you listen to this podcast. But, Launa Jae has been on the pod before, so if you have been a pod listener since day one, you are going to recognize her. She always has really good little one liners that just make you go, yeah, that's exactly how I feel. And so I hope that this episode hits you on a day when you need it, and I hope you feel like you have people like Launa and I in your corner going through life with you. We're all doing the best we can. So here's Launa Jae. Lesley Logan 1:54  All right, Be It babe.Launa Jae 1:55  Yay. Lesley Logan 1:55  Exactly, that's exactly how we're coming into this episode. I'm so excited. One of my dearest friends. Launa Jae McClung is our guest today. She is back from episode 52 and I think, I don't know, but last night, I recorded episode 500 and I didn't know I was recording it. I was just like reading the thing. I'm like, this is episode 500, so you might be 552 but.Launa Jae 2:17  Yay, let's go. Lesley Logan 2:18  I mean, if we're manifesting, you know.Launa Jae 2:20  Hey, that's what this whole thing is about, right?Lesley Logan 2:23  Yeah, it really is. So Launa, I mean, you and I go way back, but just in case people haven't listened to the way back episodes of 52 Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Launa Jae 2:33  Yeah, I'm Launa Jae. I'm a Dallas based nutrition and fitness junkie. I specialize in flexible nutrition and really getting people unstuck, getting, moving them from point A to point B without feeling like they have to be restricted. And so that opened up the lane for me to meet you. And I just, I've been rocking with it ever since.Lesley Logan 2:57  I just love how the world works and how we get to meet people. And I'm so grateful. There was just certain times in my life where I've just where I've just made some really great friendships, and you and B are one of those, and it's just been so fun. We talked about, like, why you're gonna come on the pod? Like, what are we gonna talk about? And I just wanna address, and maybe this will come up in our conversation, but when you were on the show before, you were still doing what you do, but you were doing it differently than you are doing it now. And I just thought maybe it would be fun to kind of go back into the journey so people can kind of come along the ride with you. Like, what's been going on the last couple of years, since you've been on? You know, with what you can share, with what you can share.Launa Jae 3:32  Yeah, a lot has happened. What's funny is my word for 2024 was growth. Oh, man, did that one hit. Lesley Logan 3:41  This is why I don't pick words, guys, I do not pick them because here's what, okay, don't lose your train of thought, but just so everyone understands. Everyone's like, what's your word? What's your word? And like, I did choose impact for this year. So I did choose a word, because I just got asked so much. But like, when I was a child, my parents would say I need to be more patient, so I'd pray for patience, and then they would tell me, oh, well God's going to test you, because that's what you want. And I'm like, well, then what are we doing here? I don't have the patience to be tested yet. So if I want growth, you'd be ready for growth in all directions. Anyways, back to you.Launa Jae 4:12  I don't even know that, like, even when we feel like we're ready for growth, I don't even know that our human brain can actually process and, like, fathom what it takes to be able to grow, and the uncomfortability and like, the stickiness and sitting in the trenches and all of that, people don't want that when they say, I want growth. They want to come out on the other side this new, shiny, brilliant object, right? But each part is just as valuable to the other part to become who you want to be. And I really leaned into that unintentionally, maybe some, intentionally. So what's been going on since the last time we talked? I joined a company and really kind of put my business on the back burner and wanted to fall in love with coaching again and do less of the admin, all of that. So we worked with that company for about two years, and then growth, right? Growth happened as I got better. I wanted more, and that bar kept getting raised, right? So in December of last year, I started with a new company, so I'm working with a physical therapy company, and I am running their online coaching department. So I'm the Director of Nutrition and Fitness Coaching, literally building this leg of our business from the ground up, and really doing it. I've kind of taken the lessons that I've learned from all of the years and all of the years of entrepreneurialship, and it really kind of like carved its own lane for this, this position to open up for me. I didn't know that it existed. I didn't know that I wanted it, and I just kind of kept being it and not really knowing what I was doing until it came and here we are, so. Lesley Logan 4:12  I think this is so cool. So thank you for sharing, because I know we have a lot of people who are like, oh, I want to work for myself. I just want to do it myself, and then that's scary and that's hard. And you and I have been there, and we've seen the ups and downs, and you, people don't realize when you work for yourself, like, yes, you get to work for yourself, but then when the -ish hits the fan, you work for yourself, and that can be its own thing. And then got to work with someone else and see what that was like. And I think what's really cool is because you had those two opportunities, it allowed you to see this current opportunity as something that was the best of all of it. It was like taking all of your entrepreneurism and everything you know, and then what it's like to be on a team and then make it the best situation for the people you want to make an impact for. I think it's, I think that's just really cool. Launa Jae 6:03  Yeah, it's, it's evolved in a way that I couldn't even have articulated the way that I wanted it to. And really, it all kind of started with me just going within and me kind of, I had to realize, like, I kind of had a couple of aha moments last year, and I, there were like, three specific instances. I remember I had one in March, I had one in the summer, and then I had one in December. And it's like, I don't know. I don't mean to schedule my mental breakdowns quarterly, but it happens like that. Lesley Logan 7:25  I kind of want to know what the signs of the stars were doing. If there was something in retrograde.Launa Jae 7:31  Mercury was in the microwave, Saturn did something and somebody pissed someone off, and it just came at me. But I, I'm a big, I like to know the why behind the what. I'm a very curious person, and I really, as I get to know myself better, I love to pick up on patterns. And, in hindsight, looking in these like three instances that really stuck out in my mind, I got to the point where I was like, what's the common denominator in all of these instances that brought out all of those uncomfortable feelings, so, shit, I didn't want to feel the emotions. Those times where you just have a breakdown and you're like, what is wrong with me? Am I broken? Right? And the common denominator in all of those situations was me.Lesley Logan 8:20  Isn't that like that sucks so much when you realize it?Launa Jae 8:23  It is a giant horse pill to swallow with no water. Lesley Logan 8:28  Yeah.Launa Jae 8:28  And it's like, okay, okay, we're still swallowing trying to digest it. And I was in a situation where I was like, Yes, I can build everything that I want, but I think until you realize what you don't want, you're not very clear on what you do and what you need, the action steps you need to take in order to get there. And so for me, it was a lot of negative emotion, and negative emotion is literally just an indication that you're out of alignment with who you are in your true inner being. And this negative emotion waves, like, kept hitting me, like debilitating to where I'd get sick, I would get stressed out, like, I mean, the whole gamut, right? And the common denominator in the situation was me. I was doing the same thing over and over and over again on the day to day, waking up, checking my phone, doing the emails, hurrying to get through work and all of this, and literally prioritizing my to-do list over my life. And I was spinning my wheels and I was trying to pour from a cup that was like dried out, and I what I wasn't taking the time to make sure that I was okay before I started to give to others. And it's really easy to say, and it's a very simple concept to like, think about right? Like, okay, practice, what you preach. How many coaches hear that in the online space? But I was sitting there having these conversations with clients, and I'm like, okay, we need to work on stress management. It's not something that's magically going to disappear, just like you're not magically going to wake up after a heavy leg day and be good to go and be squatting your butt of, you know? You have certain protocols that you deploy when you overdo it in the gym, right? We got massaging, we got cupping, we got cryo, we got all of these things. When we overdo it in the kitchen, we know we can get back to the basics, protein, fiber, 10k steps a day, drink your water, seven to eight hours of sleep. Let's eat out less. Let's cut back on booze, right? Those things. But what about stress? Lesley Logan 10:38  Right. Launa Jae 10:38  I am so guilty of, just like, having these super high stress moments and these negative feelings and then just expecting myself to magically recover from it without getting in the work. Lesley Logan 10:50  Right, just like, just get a good night's sleep. And here's the thing, good luck getting a good night's sleep. I just, so, we're reading a book right now, and I make a stop it an hour before bed, because it's causing me to have nightmares, not nightmares, but just like intense dreams, where I am the hero of the story, and I cannot save, and Brad is the other character, and I can't save him. And so we're like, Anyways, long story short, guys, if you know, you know. So, at any rate, I had like, eight hours I could sleep last night, and I was like, I'm not gonna need my alarm. Yes, I did, because I woke up so many times because I had this stress dream going on, and I wrote on my journal. I need to figure out how to calm my nervous system before I go to bed. And I wrote that. And I'm like, you know how to do that. Launa Jae 11:34  If I was gonna ask anyone how to do that, I would probably ask you. Lesley Logan 11:39  It would be me. And I was like, you're just not using your tools. You're just not being I do it in the morning because I love a morning routine. I love setting myself up for success, but I am not doing it my nighttime routine. And I'm like, okay, this is do your thing tonight. So tonight I have to go back to my practicing what I preach, which is not just my having a great morning routine, but having a good night one. So I agree with you, we, we have the tools, we just don't have the protocol. And when you're in a stressful situation, it's kind of hard to go. Let me reach I guess the best example is, like, you know, when someone's drowning, I actually tell lifeguards, like, be careful, because a drowning person is likely to drown you because, even though you're there to reach out for help, they're thrashing. So I feel like when we're in a stressed out state, we can't reach for our stress protocol because we're drowning.Launa Jae 12:28  Absolutely and I think those like stress protocols, it's very simple. At the end of the day, right? You're stressed out. Let's get a good night's sleep. Let's do some journaling, some meditation, something that makes you feel good. I don't know, color, dance, read a book, whatever. Do you. Right? Those things that are really, really easy to do also very, very, very easy not to do because of their simplicity. And so it's like, as, as we're adulting and like entrepreneurialship is straight up personal development and personal growth, like you need to work on yourself more than the business, and that's kind of in, in the season that I'm in right now, right, of like, hey, you've neglected yourself for X amount of time, we got to get back into it.Lesley Logan 13:16  Well, and that kind of makes me think one of the things you and I were talking about offline is being a student versus studying to pass the test. I feel like this is an exact answer, right? If you're starting to pass a test, it's like, Yep, I've memorized check these boxes that will bring your cortisol down, that's going to do this, that's going to make you have a good night's sleep. But actually, studying means trying them out, experimenting, seeing if it will work. Is that what you mean when you think about studying versus passing the test?Launa Jae 13:41  Yeah, I think, like, I mean to even, like, parallel that example even more, like when I was going back to those, like, three instances, right? And I was like, wake up, and I'm like, okay, gotta brush my teeth, then I gotta open computers, then I gotta talk, do all of this before anybody talks to me at this time, literally rushing through my day to do the to do list. So then I could chill, and then I could be happy. That's an example of studying to pass the test. You are going through, you are cramming for that exam two hours before it hits. You're trying to memorize everything. And in those moments, life is passing you by around it, right? We are so hyper focused on, is it A, B or C, that we can't even see what's going on around us. That's kind of studying to pass the test, and kind of where I'm calling in, I set a new word for this year, heaven forbid, where I'm kind of leaning in this year is asking more questions, and instead of it being like, okay, well, when Launa gets stressed out, she skips meals, she doesn't do her workouts, and she turns into a raging ditch.Lesley Logan 14:52  Just a little bit. Launa Jae 14:53  Yeah, instead of just putting a period there, this year I'm asking why. What is it? And why am I telling myself, like, here I am another year older, I'm going to be 36 this year. What's up? But, what I'm. Lesley Logan 15:09  It's a good year. 36 is a good year. Launa Jae 15:11  I'm excited. Like, get out of 2035, right? Like, going back, I mean, if we're just doing all of this work just to get to the place that we can chill, we're starting to pass the test. Instead asking why in those moments, like I had a little bit of a mentee be today, this morning, and I was like, oh, I'm gonna have some great examples for this call, but I was sitting here, and I'll just keep it a buck, and I know she doesn't mind, but my other half, B, love her so much. We went and scouted a basketball game, Monday night. It was raining, terrible weather. We got to spend this morning, I go to move my car, and my car window was cracked. It has been raining for three days. It's 7 a.m. and then just more little instances, right? So I come in and I start to feel that negative emotion coming up, and I'm like, look, she is a good human. It was not intentional. She would never intentionally drown your leather interior, right? Like, check yourself, Launa, before you start this snowball spiral effect, check yourself. So I go, and I'm like, okay, I need to, like, stop this, this wheel before it gets really rolling. I'm gonna go meditate. So I turn on my meditation. I go and I sit in this chair, and I'm like, I am light, and I'm like, breathing it, and I'm trying so hard. My dog jumps in my lap, pauses, the meditation turns on a man's voice that's a commercial about buying some car this year with a low APR. And I lose it. I'm trying to do something good for myself. Lesley Logan 16:54  I was only laughing because I have been there. You're like, I'm meditating, I'm meditating, and it's like, what are you doing? I'm just trying to meditate.Launa Jae 17:05  And it just started this whole breakdown. And instead of me being like Launa last year, would have been like, I probably would have gotten in a fight with B it had nothing to do with her, and I would have just sat there, probably cried, gone and done another workout, which would be even worse for my body stress response, right? And would have left it at that, said, okay, cool, I'll try again tomorrow. Instead, this year, I'm trying to go deeper, and I'm trying to ask the why behind the what. Why was that one thing triggering me? And after unpacking it and being more, taking more of a student approach to what was happening, pulling myself out of it, I started to notice that there were common patterns, right? I was feeling like, okay, I've been doing this, this, this and this, and making sure everyone else is taken care of and okay this week, and I'm not getting that in return. And so instead of me getting to that point and be like, B, you're not giving it to me or whatever, I unpacked it more. And really what it was, and what it all stemmed down to, is I was giving my energy away this morning and this week before, I was filling myself up and making sure I was okay, I've gotten the habit of getting on social media first thing or opening emails, and I wasn't taking that time. So in these situations, literally, I had like, five or six situations this week where it was the common theme, again, I'm the common denominator, right? And so it was because I just wanted to be appreciated and like, hey, I see you. You're doing great, but all of these negative things came in, and if I put a period on it, instead of asking a question, after that sentence, there would be no growth. It would have been studying for the test, me not retaining the information, and me getting that test again in two months and failing it. Lesley Logan 19:06  Yeah, yeah. It really is not the easiest thing to go. Okay, why is this upsetting me so much? I mean, a dog jumping on you during a meditation, hitting the wrong thing, should be funny. It should be funny. And so when it's not funny, when something like so ridiculous happens and it's not funny, there's something going on. There's an underlying current that's not being addressed. And I remember, this would happen to Brad and I, would have, like, the same kind of a thing. It's always happening when we're, when we're trying to do too much at the same time. You know, it's scary to hire, it's scary to delegate, it's scary to say no to things. But actually we, you know, we had, we really had to do that. We had a no new things in 2019 mantra, and like we've had, we've like, done it other times. And what I can say is not that our life is perfect, but now it's a little easier for us both not to blow up at the same time because, because, like, we're both not overdoing it in the scene and trying to be like a hero. And I think you have to, if you don't learn from the things you get to repeat the same exam, and you'll still get the same crappy score, which is memorized, which is not the, you know, the thing. I hope people are like, laughing and listening and also asking themselves same thing, like, what? What is this? Yes, some days you have to check boxes. I think it's really important to note that there's just some days you're like, yep, I'm going for my walk, and I don't want to do it. Yep, I'm sitting in this chair and I'm trying to meditate, and I don't, there's those days, but then when it, when you are, if you are finding yourself blowing up the people you love, something isn't happening that you're probably not articulating. I hate to say this, but we actually have to tell people how we want to feel appreciated, because people like I, I will brag about Brad all the time, and then realize, like, I have to actually should have told him, oh, I really like that you made me coffee every morning. We don't realize that we're not actually showing our appreciation to the person. We often tell our friends, or we tell our social media, we tell these things. And so if you aren't getting the appreciation you want, you know, you do have to almost articulate, here's how I would like to be appreciated, and these kinds of things make me feel appreciated, and no one wants to have those conversations because there's no time. None of us have, we're all cramming so much for so many tests. We're not actually taking the time to be in a philosophy class or psychology class or any kind of class that you would be like learning about something where you actually just get to learn. I think that that's my takeaway. Is like, maybe I should explore where I can be in a more theory class versus okay, I'm just passing the test. I'm checking the box. But if you're listening, you're like, I just checked the box today. Be okay with that, because it's better than not doing the things, but just understand if you were doing it every single day, or if you're resenting others. But here's the deal, because Launa, you and I are very similar. I have a really hard time being in the present moment, my, read in my dailies today, and it was a lot of us focus on the past. We focus on the future. Like we're trying to get so far in the future, like, currently with what's going on in the world. I'm like, can we just, like, fast forward 1000 days? Like, can we just, like, do it, right? Not like, that's a specific number or anything, but like, I find myself fast forwarding because it, the present feels really difficult. So how, how are you working on that sense of urgency and not letting that take over? Because we're doers, we're like, action takers, you know? How do you slow down?Launa Jae 22:13  Well, it's so funny because I was literally as you were talking. I was like, oh, that's a perfect segue into urgency, but to go off of what you were talking about, of you and Brad sitting down and having those conversations, I think I wanted to like echo something like in the heat of the moment when we are cramming for those tests, it always isn't the best climate to be able to sit down and be like, you know, what I've thought about my feelings, and then to be able to think about your feelings, to process them, and then to assign words, to be able to articulate and do it without putting someone on the defensive, is not easy to do. Lesley Logan 22:52  Yeah, it takes special skills. I think that's like superhero type of skills.Launa Jae 22:56  Very, very special skills. But I also think that urgency culture and us hurrying to study to pass that test and all of these things that are never ending to-do list is also stripping us from the human connections, from enjoying the day-to-day, from being present in the moment. And so one of those things that I'm, I'm really trying to call in is the first thing, and I know it's gonna sound stupid, it's gonna sound so cliche, but it is real, is my phone. Because I have clients messaging me, I have emails coming to my phone, I have group messages. I have all of these things. The second that I start to look elsewhere and I let I start to get into, like, consumption mode of other people's lives, what other people are doing, of texts here and this funny thing there, that's when my thinking starts to get messed up, and it's, it's not like a cause and effect, right? Oh, I got on social media. Five minutes later, I'm calling myself fat, and I hate what I see in the mirror, like it's not like that. But over time, I think being more intentional about where my energy is going and when I, like, I am on this call with you, I'm gonna keep it a buck. My phone is hidden in my paper planner so I can't even see it, and that way, I'm not paying attention, I'm not having this conversation with you, and then seeing a notification come up, and then me being like, oh crap, what were we talking about? I'm on camera, and to be in that moment, and it's hard to put on those blinders on those distractions, but I'm going to argue that that's one of the best things that you can do whenever you are going through these instances, is we start to kind of look outside of us for answers on us. And that doesn't make sense, like even saying that sentence sounds messed up. We start to look for answers outside of us about ourselves. They're only found inside of, the only way that we can get to that student mindset is to be able to shut out the noise and quiet. So for me, I'm intentionally getting on social media list. I'm posting. I'm going to check it one time a day, and I'm not looking, I'm not re-sharing, I'm not I have to protect my energy this week, especially when I'm vulnerable and I'm going through these instances.Lesley Logan 22:56  Yeah, I think that's really wise. I love that you put it in a book I live on Do Not Disturb, as you know. The joke in our household is people call Brad and tell him to find me.Launa Jae 25:44  Yeah, people call B and they're, like, where's Launa?Lesley Logan 25:47  Yeah, yeah, I do recall you're going, hey, Brad, can you tell your wife to answer her phone? We have a call right now. I am a true, like, ADHD person. I will be like, oh, I've got a meeting in 20 minutes. I can't start anything. And then I'm like, well, what's this over here? And then I'm like, fuck, I'm five minutes late. How did that happen? So that's me, but I do think that there are some tools we can use. And I know people are listening, but Lesley, I have to use social media for my business. Something that I am actually exploring is, what if I took all the pictures for stories and just posted them at one time for the next day? Does it really matter? You know what I mean? Like, does it really matter if it's 24 hours old? Because you can post like, 20 stories at one time. There's a simple way of doing that. Or if you really have to be posting all day, can you have someone who does it for you so that you could send it to them, and they can do it, because you have to figure out how to protect yourself. And that shouldn't be a selfish thing. That shouldn't feel like a righteous thing, whatever it's going on with you. If you're in a season of your life where that's a distraction, or you keep picking up your phone. For me, I can pick up my, my socials, skip the feed, and go straight to what I need to do, and go to my DMs and get out of it. And so I've curated my, my feed to just being people who want to punch Nazis and beautiful nails. Like, that's kind of where it's at right now. So, like, I kind of love it and I use. Launa Jae 26:58  I expect nothing less from you? Lesley Logan 27:01  Yeah and I use, like, the why are you showing this to me all the time? I'm like, I don't care about this. You can do those things. But if that's not something where you're at right now, then finding different tools, leaving your phone outside your bedroom, or there's a podcast I'm listening to where they're doing a focus challenge, your phone will tell you how many times a day you picked it up. Do you know this? So you can actually, I think there's a tool that you can look at to see how many times that I opened up my phone. It locked and I opened it. And then you can actually just aim to do less this one person I was listening to, we pick it up 283 times in a day. And I was like, oh my God.Launa Jae 27:32  I don't even want to comment on that until I know my number.Lesley Logan 27:36  Correct, exactly, because I started to go, wow. And then I was, wait a minute. How many times do I? But even just picking those things, because that is going to help you be more present in the moment, that's going to give you the time to ask yourself why am I feeling a certain way? What do I want out of this? All the tools in the world, you and I have studied from the best people out there on how to make our businesses go how do we work from ourselves? How do we develop ourselves? How do we have growth? But all the tools in the world don't help you if you don't take the time to integrate them. And I want to highlight something you said when you're in the moment when you want to, you know, yell like your your car is wet and the dog jumped on you, and you're like, I need it. That's because I'm not being appreciated. I'm going to go tell. That's probably not the best time to go tell someone what you want. But what I think is really cool is measuring the time from the little mental beat to you understanding what's going on to you being enabled to a place to articulate what that is. Maybe it takes you two days at one point, and if you can reduce that down to a day and a half, and you can reduce that in a day, and maybe you can reduce it down to, you know, within an hour. Like, hey, I'm so sorry the way I acted this morning. Here's, here's what happened, here's why this is upsetting me. You don't need to do anything or in the future. Like, can you, you know? Can you shut the window, you know? So, like, I think it's not about us being Zen Buddhist, like, you know, monks over here who just walk through life in white robes. That's never gonna happen, but us all being able to shorten the timeframe from when we're frustrated to why we're frustrated to articulating what our needs are.Launa Jae 29:13  Yeah, and I think it comes down to a matter of intention, even to your social media example, right? Like being intentional about what you're doing, why you're doing it, while you're doing it, will help you be more present in that moment. So, like, it is my intention. I literally, I was like, gonna start a Launa stress spiral. I'm like, I got a podcast at 12 and I gotta prep my call notes. And I was like, Launa, stop. Have fun. Just get on this call, talk to your friend, get some good content out there, see how it evolves. Have fun. Then when I'm done, I'm gonna have fun while I'm doing X and having those times and that intentional time, one of the quotes that sticks out because this is something I have to be mindful of daily, because, hi, human ADD, there literally was a squirrel in front of my house as I said that, (inaudible) just went by. But I think being, I don't know who said it, where I heard it, but being where you are, 10 toes down, wherever those toes are, that's where your focus needs to be, whether it's in the gym, whether it's okay, my toes are under my computer. It's work time. If I'm in the kitchen, my toes are eating, you know, like, what we got going on? And being intentional in your reflection time of okay, why did I just act like a mega asshole, why? And being intentional in the the information extraction, right? Then being intentional with you taking the time to process and asking yourself the questions, right? And then being intentional in the way that you communicate what you want. And then, clearly, I'm not going to say the word intention again, but leading with that of, why am I doing the thing that I'm doing right now, and is that in alignment? Yeah, and if it's not, then we need to ask why, and do something maybe pivot to get back into alignment. But I think that's what I'm focusing on. Lesley Logan 31:16  Is intention your word for the year?Launa Jae 31:18  No, my word for the year is actually peace, and I cannot wait to see in 2026 what that does to my year. But I just, for lack of a better phrase, I just want to shit rainbows this year. I want to call it in the void I want. I just want connection, and I want laughter, and I want community. Because I think I truly spent the last two years in head down, grind, hustle, like, just work yourself into the ground mode. And, yeah, it was great, and I got a bunch of clients and help people get results. And like, I did the things and I was fulfilled doing the things that wasn't work I didn't like, but I also haven't gotten on an airplane in a year and a half. I haven't gone to a beach in a year. I missed out on a lot of the things on the day to day, like, you know, Lesley, one year, we saw each other three times going to all these events, you know. So, like, all of these things that are a part of my identity are things that I started to put to the back burner because I was prioritizing my work and my clients over me. And so this year, I just want to simplify everything. I want peace. I want good food, good company, good sleep, good sex, pretty views, quality conversations. And that's what I want to focus on. So whatever learning and self-growth and all of meditations and car windows that need to happen to get to that spot, I'm willing to put in the work, because I've seen what it's like on the other end and that's not fun. Lesley Logan 33:07  I think what's really cool. So I want to share a story, and it's not to make you doubt your word at all, but it is everyone who had the word. So my yoga instructor, we should have him on the podcast, Brad. We should figure this out. But my yoga instructor is like a philosopher, and he says, you can't have love without hate. You can't have peace without war. And so anything that we're wanting to call more in for everyone, whatever that word is, there is going to be the other side. It doesn't mean you don't, you get to skip that. But the idea is that, can we recognize when it's happening and then when it's not happening. Are we able to recognize peace when we have peace? Because a lot of times, we only recognize the opposite of what we don't want. We're like, oh, I've only got troubles, and all I want is peace and so or I only have like, haters, and I just want to love. Can you recognize when you have it when you have it, and use in the instances that are not peaceful or not love-filled or not impactful as information around how could I grow from this? How is there, was there a way to prevent that from happening at all anyways? Is that even in my control, if it's outside of my control, then can't do anything anyways. But if it was inside your control, what adjustments can I make in my life? So I'd repeat that thing again. So I think it's like, I love the word peace. I had a year where I was like, ease and I just kept asking, like, anytime something came stressful, I'm like, How can I make this more easeful? This isn't easy. So, yeah, could I bring to it? Should I bring music on? Do I need to change the music that's playing so that this is more easeful? Do I need to ask for help? I'm sharing all this because I need to hear it myself. So I'm gonna re-listen my own podcast so I can take my own, so I could take my own medicine, but it's like, how can I use the things that are opposite of what I'm trying to call in as information about what I can change for myself, or if it's outside of my control, how do I let it go? Because that, there's nothing you can do anyways, right? So anyways, this has been so fun. Launa Jae 34:58  No, I love it, because now you g,ot me on another tangent. But I really, I really believe, like, I mean, humans, they operate out of one or two mechanisms, fear or love, right? Anything that we do is either, like, if you ask enough questions, you're going to get to the base, and that base is either going to be you're scared of something or you love something, right? And so, kind of getting into these, like when growth happens, and all of these negative emotions we're scared of, because we are made to feel aligned and feel good and all of that. But if we, again, slip into student mode, those negative emotions are like a flashing yellow site that something isn't in alignment. So if we can sit with those and recognize, hey, I have to go through this to get the opposite, then I think it becomes almost as Jill would say, Let's lower the barrier of entry. In order to have peace, you gotta go through the chaos in order to have a sunny day, like you wouldn't even be able to know what a sunny day is like if all you saw was rain. And so the message is that you're telling yourself so like, yes, I want peace this year, and I have had to catch myself 942 times already having chaos in my brain and feeding the chaos, right? So as you're working towards whatever it is, whether it's fitness, nutrition, you're trying to get a new deadlift PR, you're trying to nail your macros, you're not going to get to the spot where you're able to do that without the lows that are associated with those highs. Literally, to PR your deadlift you have to tear your muscle fibers down and rebuild them. And I was talking to my friend this morning on the phone, and I was, I was frustrated. I'm like, why, I've been doing personal development for 35 years, like I get this a lot thing, like, come on, since I was a baby in my mom's womb, I've been doing this, what is like, what is going on? And she was like, Launa, you're with a new company. You're at ground zero. Just because you've had a ground zero before doesn't mean that this isn't a ground zero again. If you are constantly, she, she told me something hard that really slapped me in the face. And she was like, okay, so you're always going to be stressed out and you're always going to be glorifying your to-do list because you're constantly growing. And I was like, yeah. And she was like, so you're going to constantly grow, and you're going to constantly get better, and you're setting these expectation for yourself, but as you're getting close to reaching those, you're changing the height of the bar. Lesley Logan 37:53  Yes.Launa Jae 37:53  And so you're consistently going to be disappointed, because that's who you are. You're high-achieving. You like to operate there, but you're gonna constantly be disappointed every time I go to move that bar up and I keep falling. So we need to learn how to be okay in the moment, because the journey's never gonna end. You know, it's always gonna change. So what are you gonna do? Are you gonna like, just sleep an entire road trip with your spouse and miss every single thing on the road or are you going to look out the window?Lesley Logan 38:24  Yeah. Yeah. I think that's beautiful. I think it's totally fine to be in, have an achiever mindset and have a growth mindset and be a doer like I'm a recovering perfectionist and overachiever. That being said, it doesn't mean that you can't live a life with a mountain with no peak. We had a guest, Keri Ford, who was like, you know, an achieving one, like, there's a mountain with no peak. That doesn't mean that along the mountain you don't stop at a plateau and you look around and you take it in. That doesn't mean that you don't have to go around a long journey to get to the next peak. You, always moving the bar in your life, there's actually nothing wrong with that, because you are constantly wanting more. What we what all of us who do that, have to recognize is, are we celebrating where we're at when we get there? If we don't, it makes it really, really hard to be curious and study and ditch the urgency we've been talking about because we're just waiting for that next test, because we'll just pass, I'll just pass it and then I did it. And instead of no, actually, just stop and take it in. Just stop. Look at your views. Look at the cloudy day, look at the rain and celebrate here's what I did do today, you know. So I just want to say that, because I just want to make sure everyone knows it is absolutely fine to have goals and you can move the goal post, but you must celebrate that you got to a goal post. I had a coach who says he's not hit a goal in his business in six years, but he feels extremely successful. So I think the barometer is you can move the goal post, but if you never feel like you've been successful, then maybe there's some reflecting to do.Launa Jae 39:58  Yeah, and I think that comes back to like being present and being 10 toes down right, like, people literally hire me to help keep them accountable on their journeys, and a crucial part of that is being grateful and celebratory for the progress that you've made and where you are in the moment and how you're creating a new version of yourself, it takes time to create different neural pathways. And as humans, we want x result, and we want it now, and that's where a lot of resistance comes from, right? So enjoying it and realizing there's going to be sun, there's going to be rain, but it's all worth it, and it's all important to keep going. So let's normalize minty bees, right?Lesley Logan 40:44  Yes, yes, I vote for that. Okay, we're gonna take a brief break and find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you, and your Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 40:51  All right, Launa, where do you hang out? Where can they work with you if they are wanting accountability in their life, for their journey, their fitness journey, what do you got for them?Launa Jae 40:59  Yeah, you can find me on Instagram. I hang out more there than Facebook. My Instagram handle is launajae_ J-A-E underscore. I have my new website that launched this week, so I will be sending it over to you, if y'all are curious about coaching, anything like that. What it is that I do or you want to hear more random stuff come out of my mouth. Hit me up on there.Lesley Logan 40:59  Yeah, what's the website? We'll put it in the show notes, but just in case people are walking and talking. Launa Jae 41:27  Yes, it's www.activelifesports.comactive-lifestyle. Lesley Logan 41:35  Okay, we will put that in there. We gotta get you a short link. Brad is like, Launa needs a short link. It's brand new. It's one week. Congratulations. Those are not easy things to do. Okay, you've given us so much, Launa Jae, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps can we leave people with today?Launa Jae 41:58  Stay curious. Everything can teach you more about yourself. Create awareness around where you are, and get clear on where you want to go, and do not forget that grace and consistency go a long way. There are going to be hard days, but what do you do with them? Right? Lesley Logan 42:18  Yeah, yeah. I love all. I love each one of those. I think that that's a, it could be one sentence, or it could be five commands, and you can pick one that you want. You're gorgeous. You're amazing, Brad and I adore you. And you get on a plane and come to Vegas, huh? Like, Southwest is having a sale. I'm sure.Launa Jae 42:37  Hey, you know it is like one of me and B's favorite places to come. It's come see you and Brad in Vegas.Lesley Logan 42:42  I'm just, we're just saying you should just get married here, that way we can be there. We, we have a Venetian you can get married in New York., New York. There's, like, all these different.Launa Jae 42:52  We can get married in your backyard, (inaudible).Lesley Logan 42:56  You can. You can get married in the backyard. Our wall matches your tattoos, you know.Launa Jae 43:03  It's meant to be, no, what's crazy is you're the second person that's asked if we were gonna get married in Vegas, unwarranted, too.Lesley Logan 43:10  Yeah, well, I just like to do unsolicited commands of people getting married in Vegas. Lesley Logan 43:16  My loves. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Please let Launa Jae and the Be It Pod know, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. I mean, there's so many different good one liners to remember. If you find yourself taking a horse though, without water, maybe it's time to be curious. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 43:37  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 44:19  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 44:24  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 44:28  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 44:36  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 44:39  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley shares an eye-opening stat about feedback bias toward high-performing women and celebrates a win from Dana Karen's impactful challenge for people with chronic pain. Lesley also shares a personal win about filming for Pilates Anytime and how being challenged creatively led to growth. This episode is your Friday reminder that wins come in many forms and that they're always worth celebrating. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:A surprising stat about negative feedback on high-achieving women.How Dana Karen created a powerful shift for clients in chronic pain.Why fulfillment sometimes matters more than numbers.What challenged Lesley creatively during her Pilates Anytime shoot.How doing things differently opens doors for growth.Episode References/Links:Dana Karen's book: You're Meant to Move - https://a.co/d/62woZGtPilates Anytime - https://www.pilatesanytime.comIf you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hey, Be It babe. Welcome to your FYF episode, your Fuck Yeah Friday episode, where we share wins. We share wins of yours, wins of mine, a mantra, we get inspired, we're to take it ourselves into the weekend, when that's the best time to be inspired, so that you can enter your work week and plan it all out and make your magic happen. So this inspired me. This is very interesting. I don't think it inspired me, but like, intrigued me. Around 76% of high-performing women receive negative feedback, compared to only 2% of high-achieving men. So what this said is around 76% of high-performing women reportedly received negative feedback from their managers, compared to just 2% of high-performing men. That come from data collected from 23,000 employees across 250 organizations, by the way. So why is this happening? So they think unconscious bias leads managers, male or female, to typically evaluate women during performance reviews on their personality rather than the work they contribute. Are they easy to work with? Do they get along with everyone? Are they likable and collaborative? These areas of feedback don't necessarily touch on a woman's performance, which hurts both the employee and the employer. The employee, remember, is the high-performer. She's going to be looking for concrete ways to grow and progress in her career. If she see it receiving feedback on how nice she is, well, she might start looking for work elsewhere. Managers keep it constructed and hold on to top talent. I thought that that was like interesting. I made me wonder, how do I provide feedback to different genders in any of the things that I'm doing? Am I providing feedback specifically on the tasks that they're doing so that they can become better, or am I talking about things that have nothing to do with the project? So I thought that that was just really fascinating to something we could all explore, like, those of you who have people on your team, how are you providing feedback? Are you keeping it even? Are you giving the same kind of feedback to people of another gender in your corporation? Like, how are you doing that? So, anyways, I hope that that kind of gets you thinking. Lesley Logan 2:35  So let's go to one of your wins. This is from DK. My heart is so incredibly full right now. I'm on day two of a seven-day challenge, and I am running for getting active with chronic pain called Meant to Move, after my book. Remember her book? It's Dana Karen's book. I have been busting my ass for the past four weeks or so leading up to this challenge with IG lives and new freebies and tons of promos, and I was so exhausted by the time it even started. I was disappointed at first to just get four sign-ins, because I'm making like, $2 an hour, but I have to say that things are going so well so far, I just got off two back-to-back coaching calls with people telling me how grateful they are for the safe space about the challenge created, and how happy to they feel to have a guidance and support to get going. The second client said to me, the movement part is just a bonus. What I needed was a safe container to put my grief and feelings about movement and where it was okay to be starting from scratch and you gave me that. I mean, that sentiment right there was exactly why I wrote the book, why I created my first pain program in 2022 and why I made this challenge. I have been trying to figure out the correct format for years without success, and I feel like I'm finally hitting on something that might actually work if I can figure out how to find my people. I just feel so fulfilled knowing that this is working for someone, and it made my whole month. Dana Karen, DK, we love you. We're so proud of you. We're so proud of the work that you're doing. Thank you for sharing this with us. Thank you for being you, and thank you for helping people in pain get their move on. Lesley Logan 3:53  All right, my win. Here it is real quick. You guys, I got to film for Pilates Anytime again, and they're dear friends of mine, and they challenged me to come up with some really great stuff. And we looked at the stuff that people have liked to play as anytime and what I want to do, and it's different than what I can do at OPC, and it's really quite fun. And so I can't wait for this content to come out, but I also just love that it challenged me. Challenged me to like, how do I succinctly say what I want to say in this tutorial that's different than my YouTube stuff. How do I create this class so that it makes sense at home, so you can repeat it forever and ever. I don't know their audience as well as I know my OPC audience, and that's different. And so it just was a fun challenge, and I had a great time. And I love the team at Pilates Anytime, and I also want to celebrate that they are been around for 15 years, and they really paved the way for OPC and other platforms like mine to even exist, and they've been so supportive of me and my journey and so just a win for everyone all around. Lesley Logan 4:50  So, now, here we go. Life never leaves me without options. Life never leaves me without options. Life will never leave you without options. Lesley Logan 5:01  Thank you for being you. Thank you for listening to this podcast. Thank you for sharing your wins with me. Send them in I can't wait to read them. Can't wait to share them on our next FYF and until next time, babe, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 5:13  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 5:55  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 6:00  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 6:05  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 6:12  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 6:15  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this recap, Lesley and Brad reflect on their convo with Aletta Rochat, a trailblazing and executive presence coach, who shares what it really takes to show up with confidence. Together they unpack why owning your strengths—and saying no when it matters—can shift how you lead, speak, and connect with others. With this episode, you'll leave feeling grounded, energized, and ready to give yourself full permission to belong. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The real-world script for gracefully exiting client relationships.Why permission and belonging unlock authentic confidence.The danger of saying yes out of guilt or reflex.The difference between reaction and intentional action.Why your greatest strengths may be things you take for granted.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer Tour https://opc.me/eventsOPC UK Mullet Tour https://opc.me/uk eLevate Mentorship Program - https://lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlistPilates Income Accelerator … prfit.biz/accelerator Cambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAletta Rochat Website - https://www.alettarochat.comFemGevity - https://www.femgevityhealth.com/?via=lesleyCliftonStrengths by Gallup - https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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We don't identify that we have something that most people might not have, and that becomes our superpower. Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:55  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the emboldening convo I had with Aletta Rochat in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode yet, you are missing out. She's amazing. She's a badass. You're gonna wanna listen to it after you listen to this one, if you can just go back into your feed. I mean, she's the first president-elect who's a female for the International Toastmasters. Brad Crowell 1:19  Yeah, international president-elect, yeah. Lesley Logan 1:21  Insane, amazing. And that's not even what she went to school for, or thought she'd be doing. So I just think it's great. We'll get into her in just a second. But first, today is May 29th 2025 and it's World Digestive Health Day. World Digestive Health Day is celebrated every year on May 29th around the world. I think it's really funny whenever they describe the day, and then the description is the same thing with the words. Brad Crowell 1:44  Yeah, it's also like today is May 29th. On May 29th we celebrate. Yes.Lesley Logan 1:51  The holiday provides resources and tools for gastrointestinal (G.I.) diseases to help more people in the general public make better decisions around their health. Awareness can lead to early diagnosis and treatment of G.I. diseases including cancer. It should also be known that G.I. diseases can lead to obesity. It can also create more understanding and better support for patients experiencing digestive diseases when their issues and conditions are better understood by the general public. I just think it's so important, if you are dealing with some stomach stuff, most people are not realizing how long they've been dealing with it, and it can lead to, as I mentioned, diseases, cancer, crazy stuff. You can have an imbalance of hormones, your mind, your actual mindset, how you feel, your emotions, are related to your gut, and if your gut biome is a fucking mess, and then you are also like, why does the world hate me? No amount of therapy is going to help you if your gut is telling your brain some other things. And so I highly, highly recommend, if you've got gut stuff going on, go advocate for yourself. If your G.P. is not listening to you, go talk to somebody else. We just had someone come to the house, which blew our mind. Our crappy insurance sent works to the company, and that company came to our house and literally sat down was like, what doctor referrals do you need? And I was like, oh, you can do that for me? And so you all know from over the last year how much FemGevity helped me with my gut stuff. Like, it's been really amazing to know the difference between like, I'm not feeling awesome, and, oh, this is my gut problem and. Brad Crowell 3:22  But it still doesn't change the fact that you have to go to a doctor locally to get blood drawn or things like that, right? Lesley Logan 3:28  Yeah, you still have to go do stuff, yeah? Well, FemGevity sends something to you, but you don't have to use it, like, you have to go, like, it is annoying to go advocate yourself. It is annoying to feel like you're crazy. It's annoying to feel like you're not being listened to. But literally, if you have H. Pylori, and you let it go on its own thing, it can lead to cancer, okay? If you have other things, it can lead like you don't get to ignore your gut, you don't get to. So I'm really excited that this day has its own day, which is May 29th, and it's a world holiday. Brad Crowell 3:56  It's a world holiday. Lesley Logan 3:58  Go talk to your G.I. about your shit, like literal shit. Okay, OPC Summer Tour tickets.Brad Crowell 4:06  Don't tell us about your shit when we meet you on tour. Lesley Logan 4:09  No, please don't. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to talk about my shit. I don't want to hear about your shit. But do you want to go on the West Coast tour? The tickets are already available. I actually don't even know how many cities we're going to at the time that we're recording this, but the team does.Brad Crowell 4:22  I haven't actually. Lesley Logan 4:22  We are, here's what I do know, we are spending a fuck ton of time and money to cross the border and go to Canada. So we are finally adding an international options to our West Coast tour. And so you're going to definitely want to the other Canada stops and or I know that we're hitting when I say West Coast, I mean California, Oregon, Washington. I know that we are hoping to do Idaho and Utah. Obviously while we're recording this, I don't have it in front of me, but I do know that the tickets sell fast, because our seventh tour, which is our winter tour, our last one, had literal cities sell out in 24 hours. So go to opc.me/events to see all the locations. Next up is September. We're going to be in the U.K. We have two cities with two day events at each one, Leeds and Essex.Brad Crowell 5:06  Nineteen.Lesley Logan 5:08  19 cities? Brad Crowell 5:08  I think we're on track for 19 cities with classes. Lesley Logan 5:12  Cool. Brad Crowell 5:12  Yeah, on the Summer Tour. Lesley Logan 5:13  Okay, well, thank you. So now we're on to Essex and Leeds and so this is our business in the front, Pilates in the back event, and it's two days long. Super fun, super affordable. You get six workshops, two classes for 550 pounds. Brad Crowell 5:29  I mean, it's kind of a steal, not a lot, yeah. Lesley Logan 5:32  Yeah, it's nuts, it's insane, and it's really fun. We get to spend a lot of time together, and the space is really limited and Leeds is like (inaudible).Brad Crowell 5:38  I think it's 485 pounds, 400, it's like 500 pounds. Somewhere around. Lesley Logan 5:41  Oh, maybe it's only 500 pounds. Brad Crowell 5:42  Yeah, because this is exchange thingy, so I can't remember exactly, but. Lesley Logan 5:46  Don't, don't listen to either of us quote a price. Just go to opc.me/uk. Brad Crowell 5:51  Yes. Lesley Logan 5:51  Because the early bird is over, but they're still a deal. Because the actual events, if we were to charge you for each one by itself, is like 2000 pounds, it was something ridiculous. Brad Crowell 5:59  That's way, way, way, way, way more. So yeah. Lesley Logan 6:02  So, opc.me/uk for the Leeds event or the Essex event. Leeds only has 16 spots, and I know we only have four left at the time we're recording this and then (inaudible).Brad Crowell 6:11  And it's not just Lesley who will be teaching, it'll be me, too. I'm actually gonna be there helping out. We're gonna do a couple of business life workshops, and then we're gonna do four Pilates workshops where you're digging into actual Pilates stuff, then I'm not teaching those. And then Lesley is also going to do a couple of classes and all the things, and then we're going to hang and, you know, all of it's going to be a blast, so. Lesley Logan 6:32  It's going to be so fun. And here's the deal, if you're like, oh, I'll go to the next U.K., I'm already in talks. Brad Crowell 6:37  Literally don't know when that's going to be. Lesley Logan 6:38  Yeah, I'm already in talks with several other countries that are across the world. And to be honest, Brad and I actually do like living in Vegas. So we are no longer doing multiple 12 hour flights in a year, just like not a thing for us. So I don't know that we'll hit the U.K. in the next two years after this. Brad Crowell 6:57  Yeah, at least.Lesley Logan 6:57  Even though that Brad loves it, we'd be there for vacation and not for work. So opc.me/UK is where you get your tickets there. What else, Brad? Brad Crowell 7:04  Okay, next up we got eLevate, y'all. If you've not heard of it, it's Lesley's Pilates mentorship program. It's a nine-month program, and you should do it, because it's going to change the way that you teach in incredibly dramatic way. You're going to feel way more confident about everything. People who take this program have told us they've stopped class planning. Their voices are not shot by the end of the day. They are not afraid of a random client walking in the door that they wouldn't necessarily know what to do with or prepare for. They don't have to do those things anymore, because when you go through this program, what you're going to do is you're going to dig in to all the different pieces of equipment, okay? And you're not just like learning exercises on them, although you will do that, you will learn everything that Lesley learned from Jay Grimes over the more than 10 years she studied with him and with Sandy Shimoda. You are actually going to be connecting the dots across the pieces of equipment that is going to allow you to understand why are you doing this thing with this person on the chair? Why would you then take them over to the barrels and do this other thing over there? And then, you know, because ultimately, you're understanding what their goals are, and then you can create the path through the equipment and through the exercises for them to reach their goals. Okay, how cool is that for you to just be able to understand that and not necessarily have to, like, go hit your books and be like, oh, I can't remember what I need to do with this person. No, when you go through elevate this stuff really comes together. And the the amount of confidence that has brought the people who have finished, which at this point, we got about 50 grads and 25 more people going through it this year. It's just been overwhelming feedback and in a positive way. And we want you to come. We're gonna do just the workout. Come get you know, move with Lesley, and then hang out afterwards. We're gonna do a Q&A talk all about eLevate. We are literally more than 50% sold out for 2026 so there's not that many spots left, but to find out about when this class is going to happen, go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist elevatewaitlist.Lesley Logan 9:09  I love this program so much. It's so much fun, and I'm really excited because next year we are going to do the two, two rounds again. We're not going to do it for the following year. This is the last time we can really commit to doing that, mostly because we just had so many people interested. We really, really didn't want you to wait. So we opened up another section, and like Brad said, it's almost sold out. It's just one of my favorite things. I get to spend so much time with you guys, and you, the progression, and then also, when you graduate, you're in the alumni group, and then I get to and then we're still together, and I'm still watching people elevate it's just (inaudible).Brad Crowell 9:25  We actually have a smaller group inside of the alumni who all virtually get together once a week to take an OPC class together and encourage each other and just get their movement. Lesley Logan 9:51  From around the world. Brad Crowell 9:52  From around the world. It's super cool. You know, we didn't set that up. They set it up. It's awesome. Anyway you want to be at this class. Go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist that'll be this summer. Brad Crowell 10:04  All right, next up, we got the Pilates Income Accelerator. If you are taking money from any person to teach them anything, whether that's Pilates or yoga or whatever, probably Pilates, because of who our audience usually is, I want you to come to this free workshop that I'm doing called the Pilates Income Accelerator. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator that's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. We're going to be covering three major secrets, about mindset, about money, about the numbers, and about marketing, and the messaging, the language you're using. We're going to be digging into those things, and then afterwards, I'm going to be able to answer questions about your business. So you can send in a question early, and I'll have it prepared so I can read through these questions and make sure everybody gets some kind of an answer here. I want you to come. It's free. You should do it. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator. Finally, Les, where are we going in October?Lesley Logan 10:59  Crowsnestretreats.com that's where we're going. We're going to our house in Siem Reap we have a lovely retreat planned for you. Oh my goodness. It's so wonderful. It's so cozy. It's a small group that can attend this event. We do Pilates five days. We go to the temples for two days. We take you to a lotus farm. We take you on a water tour. You get massages, and you also get to, like, really figure out what it is that you want when you leave, when you go home from the retreat. Brad Crowell 11:26  Yeah, so those are all what are we doing, but why would they go? Lesley Logan 11:30  Oh, I mean, because you're gonna feel like a freaking rock star when you come back, like you're actually gonna feel so good, you're gonna feel like you actually were in wonderment for a week. Wouldn't you like to get in wonderment for a week? I think so.Brad Crowell 11:43  Yeah. Wonder. Lesley Logan 11:45  Why do you think? Brad Crowell 11:46  When you think about Angkor Wat, it does create that intense curiosity, that wonder. How was it possible that they did what they did 1000 years ago, and for it to still be standing today, with all this epic, intricate carvings and all this stuff. You know, when you go on a journey like this, it's an adventure. You get to meet other amazing, adventurous people. We've also had, similar to eLevate, we've had retreaters stay connected afterwards. We've had like group retreat calls afterwards. We've had retreaters come back, bringing other people, because it was so inspirational. Lesley Logan 12:24  This coming one in October has someone from the last one, and then someone she's bringing her friend. And then last October, we had someone coming for the second year in a row, so like, just fun. Brad Crowell 12:34  Three or four times now, you know, yeah, we've had it happen over the years. Lesley Logan 12:38  It's a true like, when we hear the word retreat, it's like a true retreat. You get to really turn off what's going on in the world and focus on you and being in awe.Brad Crowell 12:47  Yeah, that's what's in it for you, y'all and you should join us. Go to crowsnestretreats.com. Before we get to Aletta, we have an audience question but. Lesley Logan 12:55  Yes, okay, I'm hijacking the questions again. Brad Crowell 12:57  Yeah, before you ask the question, I'm just gonna give it a quick preface. We spent the better part of a year building a tool that allows you to effectively have your own internal Google search situation going on through an AI tool that allows you to understand all the answers that Lesley and I have been giving to people for the past 10 years of coaching for fitness business. We call it the Pocket LL. And this tool, it was trained on 10 million words, where blog posts, webinars, courses, coaching, calls, group coaching calls, all these things where we're answering all these questions. And then we compiled it all into this insane database. And then we've got this awesome tool that you get to use when you're an Agency member. And today, we wanted to feature a question anonymously. We're not going to say the person's name, but we're going to feature a question that somebody actually asked the Pocket LL, so here you go.Lesley Logan 13:48  Yeah, so I have a problem client that gives me anxiety every time she comes in, but I owe her another six sessions in her 10 back. How do I fire her? Brad Crowell 13:57  That is, that's tough. Lesley Logan 13:58  And Pocket LL, said firing a client is never easy, but it's often necessary for your peace of mind and the health of your business. The image you see here captures an essential truth, it will never feel good to fire a client, but the sooner you take action, the fewer issues you'll have. Holding onto a problematic client can cost you more than just your sanity. It can affect your energy, your other clients and even your team. Here's how you can handle this gracefully. One, acknowledge sessions owed. You can refund the remaining six sessions or offer them to another instructor if you have one available, this ensures you're honoring the financial commitment without continuing the relationship. Two, be direct, but kind, say something like, thank you so much for working with me. I've realized that I'm no longer the best fit for your Pilates journey. I'd be happy to recommend another instructor or studio that might suit your needs better. Three, stick to your boundaries. If this client has been violating your policies or creating undue stress, don't feel obligated to explain or justify your decision. As I said before, you're not going to convince crazy. Keep it professional and move forward. I love when she quotes herself, which is me. Brad Crowell 15:00  You're not gonna convince crazy. That is amazing.Lesley Logan 15:03  I know. I mean, like I said that, so that's what I love about this. Okay. Four, prepare for pushback. Some clients may try to argue or guilt you into staying. Stay firm. Remember, you're creating space for better clients who respect your time and energy. And number five, focus on the opportunity. Once this client is gone, you'll have room for someone who uplifts you and aligns with your business values. Trust that the universe will fill that space with someone amazing. And then she always prompts with other questions. If you want to continue the conversation or you can just go start it's all good. Brad Crowell 15:32  Yep. Yeah. I mean, listening to those answers, I actually know the story behind every piece of that answer, because it's multiple conversations, over multiple calls, over multiple years, over multiple courses. And it's amazing that this, this tool is a, this search tool, is able to gather all that information and turn around and present it to you in a way that is cohesive, concise, and also you can actually use to take action. So. Lesley Logan 15:57  And it's and it's from all the years of experience of coaching thousands of businesses, and also all of my years of being and everything in this industry you could be. So I just really am so proud of the Pocket LL. And I do go through once a week and edit anything. And I'll, first, I stick with the things where people trigger an alert, because you could say avocado, if she makes sense to you. And then also I'll just go through for quality control and just read some of our answers. Sometimes I add another sentence because I'm like, oh, here's another idea. You know, now that I'm this many more years or I've helped this many more people, so it's always evolving. It's always getting better, and it's there for you no matter where you live in the world, as long as you're an Agency member. Brad Crowell 16:36  Yep, yeah. So if you're interested in what that even means, what that is, come to my free webinar like I was talking about go to prfit.biz/accelerator we will talk about Agency at the end, before I answer questions and come check it out.Lesley Logan 16:48  And then also, we'll go back to answering the questions you send in. I just wanted to hijack it because it's my podcast. Brad Crowell 16:53  I love it. I love it. All right. Well, stick around we'll be right back. We're going to dig into the conversation you have with Aletta Rochat. It was very inspirational. She is really good at bringing out excellence in people, so we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 17:09  All right. Welcome back. Let's talk about Aletta Rochat. Aletta is a public speaking coach and executive presence mentor based in Cape Town, South Africa. So an executive presence mentor, okay? She coached and trained in 21 countries, and will soon become the first woman from Africa the and only the 10th woman in 100 years to be the international president of Toastmasters International. So the 10th woman in the in what the last 100 years. She helps clients become more confident presenters by communicating with clarity, owning their presidents and reclaiming their sense of belonging. She also has been involved with Toastmasters since 2008. She has gone through all their educational material, and she's like the highest educator that they certify all the things she actually had a really great story about how she started to realize public speaking became like her survival mechanism, and then how it went on to now become her, you know, how she's supporting others succeed. I thought that was pretty cool. Lesley Logan 18:10  I also just, you know, like you like you hear, I heard about Toastmasters, like. Brad Crowell 18:14  I've heard about it so many times and I've never done, I don't even know what it was. Lesley Logan 18:16  And you kind of think like, oh, it's kind of like a Moose Club, like the Moose Lodge. Like, it's just, you know what I mean, but it's not, it's like, still going so strong, and it's helping a lot of people.Brad Crowell 18:26  She said they're in 150 countries. Lesley Logan 18:27  Yeah and it made me go all the people who are like, I need a friend. Go to fucking Toastmasters. Like, hear their stories. You'll connect. Yeah, you have to publicly speak, but you're gonna be around people.Brad Crowell 18:37  Well, she said you're guaranteed claps and guaranteed support, or you're guaranteed an audience and you're guaranteed claps. Lesley Logan 18:43  It sounds better than AA, where you also get both of those. I just think it sounds amazing. I'm so excited we're gonna highlight this. She said, "I show up differently when I think I belong." And she said that someone once told her, remember that you belong. That phrase helped her stay relaxed and be more spontaneous and likely to share her ideas. And I think that that's so important because for her to be where she's at in, in the world, but also in Toastmasters, each time she leveled up, there'd be, like, a reason to go, oh my God, who let me in here? They're gonna find out, like Maya Angelou is like, someone's gonna find out that I don't know what I'm doing. But if you remember that you belong, it changes how you show up. And you show up willing to be more yourself, which is going to allow you to connect with more people. And it's just so, so important. Brad Crowell 19:32  Well, I think also not only the vibes, the vibes are weird when you feel like you don't belong, but when you feel like you belong, you will approach the group, the conversation, the experience, in a much different way, because you're gonna participate. I mean, honestly, that's like the biggest thing. When you feel like you belong, you feel like you're allowed to participate, and if you feel like you don't belong, what do you do? You stand there and listen. You don't talk, you don't do anything. So I thought it was really, also, like, amazing that advice, hey, remember that you do belong. Remember that you do and she said, this was instantaneously a life-changing statement for her. Lesley Logan 20:11  Yeah. And so she even said, even though it wasn't a Be It Action Item yet, she said, "If you belong, how would you show up? How would you speak up?" And she says, like, it's like a fundamental building block of confidence and executive presence. And I just thought, yeah, we need to put that on our mirrors everywhere we can read them before we walk into a room where it's new for us. We're feeling a little nervous. I just thought was brilliant.Brad Crowell 20:32  I really dug in when she was talking about when to say yes, because you, you were asking her, it's like, wow, you seem willing to say yes to things. And she said, to my own detriment, sometimes I've said yes when I shouldn't have, but she said, the worst thing you could do is say yes to something that you don't want to do. And she was talking about, I think her example was like the Boy Scout troop, they asked her to do some specific role and and she said, thanks, but that's not the right role for me. I you know, she said there was nothing about it that lit me on fire, nothing that was exciting in any way to me, and to other people it might be really exciting, but for her, it wasn't. And she she said something very specific. She said when you say yes to something that you don't want to do, you literally start off building resentment from the, from day one. Lesley Logan 21:19  Yeah, she's correct. Honestly, I can look back going to the question, like, how do we fire a client? I remember taking the check going, I don't really want to teach her. And then the moment she texts me the next week, can I change my time? I'm like, like, it was, like a zero to 60 resentment, as opposed to someone I was really fired up to teach but like, oh yeah, this is your first time. We can do it, but not after that, you know. So she is 100%.Brad Crowell 21:44  Yeah, that was so poignant that she identified the resentment factor right out of the gate, you know. And we, why do we say yes to things that we don't want to do? Probably because we feel stuck, you know, like we feel like we have to. We feel like we're, you know, social pressure, guilt, money, something. There's underlying fear there that is making us do it. Could be family. That's like forcing us to do it, and it just builds that resentment. She said it should be both sides of the coin. You want to say yes because you want to do it and you also want to learn. I mean, what are the stories we tell ourselves? I have to say yes because I'm the right person for the job. I have the most experience. I just have to do it. No one else is going to do it, so I'm going to do it. These are a lot of reasons why we say yes, but we don't want to. Ultimately, it's important to offer service. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't be serving people, but even that service should be also doing something for you.Lesley Logan 22:37  Yeah, because you won't show up the same you just won't show up the same way. And I had someone who we actually really love and support in a lot of ways financially, and they'd ask me to be on a board. And if you guys have ever been around me, you know I've been on a board before I got burned. It was traumatizing. It was a whole thing. And I was like, I'll never be on an unpaid board again. And of course, I get this invite to apply. And I was like, there's a part of me is like, oh, they want me. And then I was like, oh, I can't do this. And then I was like, oh, I'm gonna let them down. I have, I know they need someone. Maybe I could do it if it's just, like, this much time a week, I was literally doing like, mental gymnastics to figure out how to say yes to the thing I already knew would not be the right thing. And then it took me forever to write up a thank you. But no, thank you. And you know what they said? We totally understand and thank you for being so honest. We don't want anyone to do this because they feel obligated, you know, and know that the door's always open if you, if anything ever changes and I was just like, oh, it could be that simple. It could be that simple. And honestly, if they'd answered any other way, I've been like, we're so disappointed. That is a fucking red flag to run away from. But if they're willing to be grateful, and you know, if they asked me, like, Who else do you do you know anyone else who could be right for this? I would have absolutely sent them some people, you know. So I just think that, like you can also see the true colors of the person if you're, if you're being authentically honest about whether you can say yes or no. Brad Crowell 24:09  I was laughing when she started to, to, she basically said, if you have helium hand, where just your hand goes up and you can't seem to stop it. I was laughing. I was like, what did she say? I literally rewound it. Listened to it twice. She said she's now learned to sit in her hands every now and again. So, good for her. And she said, you know, just make sure saying yes is not a reaction or a reflex reaction, but it's a concerted action. It's a decision that you're making. So awesome. Brad Crowell 24:37  Well anyway, great takeaways right there from Aletta. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into those Be It Action Items. Brad Crowell 24:46  All right, welcome back. Let's dig into those Be It Action Items from Aletta Rochat. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo? She said, hey, here is how you identify your superpowers, which I'm all about. She said what are the clues to your superpowers? It's what other people keep asking you for help with. What is, what is it that you are consistently asked about, like, hey, can you help me, like, prep this thing or cook this dish or organize this event or be on the board or whatever. What is the thing that you keep being asked to do? She shared that most people overlook their strength, strengths because A. they come supernaturally to you. You might not even realize that they are a strength that you have, that others don't. They often become the most powerful gifts, right? Like, my mom has the gift of gab. That's what everybody said. Wow your mom, she's amazing. She talks to everybody. She's got the gift of gab, right? Well, sometimes the gift of gab was like, my dad was like, are we ready to go? Are we ready to go? So the way that I grew up, sometimes the gift of gab was a negative thing, because it was like, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, right? And it wasn't until later that I realized that it can also be a positive thing. So sometimes we look at what actually is a strength in the wrong light.Lesley Logan 26:04  Because somebody may have told you, yeah, told you you talk too much, or you're a big jokester, or you don't take things seriously, but there's always a positive side to a coin. Brad Crowell 26:12  Yeah, and I'm not trying to do my dad a disservice there, but I called him out, that's not what I meant.Lesley Logan 26:17  If Steven listens to this. Hi, Steven. You can come visit anytime.Brad Crowell 26:30  Aletta said that somehow society, that's a very inside joke, y'all, and I don't think literally, anybody except for my family, would get that. Aletta also said somehow society has conditioned us that we tend to verbalize what we're good at saying, oh, it's nothing, no big deal. Oh, yeah, you know, glad to help. You know, but we don't actually identify that it's really a superpower. An example that I didn't understand when I was in my band in when I first moved out to L.A. and I'm like, running around getting us set up to do the get the show, I talked to the venue owner, I like, figured out the night of the week that the band could do it. We rehearsed. We had to do a bunch of rehearsals. We get in there. We made a little marketing flyer. We distributed the marketing flyer, got it out into the community. All to do what? I just wanted to play. I just wanted to play on stage, right? And so I'm doing all the things to so that I can get up on stage and play. And what I didn't understand was that doing all those things that's actually part of my superpower. I saw the path through, how do I get to the end goal, you know? And then what are the steps that we need to do to do it? And ultimately, when I, when I finally identified that this was a strength of mine by doing the Strengths Finders exam, the first time I took it in 2010, it was this mind-blowing thing, because I was like, oh, everybody doesn't do that. I thought this was just the what you just do, what you have to do. I guess. That's the way I saw it. And it wasn't until I understood that this was actually valuable that I was able to go get a job to do literally that, and that's how I got into operations instead of companies. Kind of crazy. (inaudible) Yeah, you know, she said, We trivialize it because we don't recognize this as a strength. We hold back articulating our value. We don't identify that we have something that most people might not have, and that becomes our superpower. It can, it should. When we look at it through that lens, suddenly you're like, oh, this is something I'm inherently good at, and that is really a superpower. It's amazing. Like my mom's gift of gab is a superpower. You know, figuring out a way through the chaos is my superpower. But how do you identify that? Right? Then, when you finally are able to identify that again, I do recommend Strengths Finders, Clifton Strengths, they call it now. Now you get to finally say, my superpower is x, right?Lesley Logan 28:48  Yeah. Brad Crowell 28:49  What about you? Lesley Logan 28:50  Okay, so I said it before, but I think it's real. I really love that it's back here in the Be It Action Items, just in case you need to hear it again. She said, reclaim your sense of belonging and give yourself permission to belong. Aletta urged us to reclaim the feeling of belonging if we've lost it. She emphasized, it's within our power to grant ourselves permission to belong. And once you reclaim it, start playing with it. You can start thinking and start speaking and start acting as if you belong. It might feel like you're this is like the true be it till you see it, it's gonna feel like you're acting. There was an interview that's coming out, or it may have already been out, where someone talked about how they love the podcast name, because every day, we allow actors to play a role in a movie, and we believe them, right? We believe that they are that person for that period of time. And being it till you see it is like acting as it. And so you are going to reclaim it, and you're gonna play with it. You're gonna play with belonging, all that stuff, and before you know it, you'll have played it so much that you become it. That's it. You become the person that belongs. You're giving yourself permission. So I just thought, I was like, that's a be it till you see it right there. That's why this exists. So thank you, Aletta, for being you. You're so amazing. I'm so glad we're able to make this happen. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 30:03  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 30:04  Thank you so much for listening. I hope this was really awesome for you. I really loved it. I also just love her voice. I love the way she explained things, the helium hand, like there's just so many things to go back to and listen. So please take another listen through if you haven't already, share it with a friend who needs to hear it, especially the ones who need to sit on their hands, but also the ones who need to be reminded that they belong and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 30:26  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 30:28  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 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Lesley Logan sits down with public speaking coach Aletta Rochat—president-elect of Toastmasters International—to explore how communication shapes confidence, leadership, and executive presence. If you've ever held back your voice or downplayed your strengths, this is your reminder to reclaim your space, speak with purpose, and lead with clarity. Whether you're leading a team or learning to own your story, this conversation will change the way you show up and speak up. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why your “yes” should come from alignment—not fear.How to use your voice with clarity and intention.The power of naming and owning your superpower.What executive presence really is—and how to build it.Why Toastmasters helps far beyond public speaking.Episode References/Links:Aletta Rochat Website - https://www.alettarochat.comAletta Rochat Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alettarochatAletta Rochat Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/aletta.rochatAletta Rochat Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/alettarochatToastmasters - https://toastmasters.org"I Belong" Playbook - https://beitpod.com/belongingMastering the Art of Exercising Authority - https://beitpod.com/exercisingauthorityThe Artist's Way by Julia Cameron - https://a.co/d/9CwCcIpGuest Bio:Aletta Rochat is a certified World Class Speaking Coach, professional speaker, and president-elect of Toastmasters International. Based in Cape Town, South Africa, she has coached clients in over 21 countries and is the first woman from Africa elected to lead Toastmasters in its 100-year history. Aletta helps leaders and professionals communicate with clarity, confidence, and executive presence—whether they're stepping into boardrooms, big stages, or everyday conversations. She holds a Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Witwatersrand and a diploma in marketing management from the University of South Africa. Aletta is also the author of two books on public speaking and the creator of the “I Belong” playbook, a self-reflection tool designed to help individuals reclaim their sense of belonging. 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And once you get over that and saying, my superpower is, and this is how it can help you, you become someone who contributes to problem solving on a personal level, in your job, in your community.Lesley Logan 0:27  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:05  All right, Be It babe, this is for you. If you have ever downplayed an idea or thought about doing something on a whim, maybe you've downplayed yourself. Today's guest went from like being a stay at home mom to kind of following this urge to go to a Toastmasters to then being, correct me if I'm wrong, Aletta, but like, the head of Toastmasters for the world, 150 countries and like that. So I am really excited because we talk about public speaking, but we also talk really about how to belong, and I think it's an important message that every single one of you needs to hear. And hopefully, we inspire you to check in with yourself, and maybe, and maybe think about the words that you want to communicate in this world, and how you can get them out there and not be super scared about it, because we all actually are so blessed and so lucky to have special gifts and superpowers. And Aletta Rachat, our guest here today, really helps you kind of be proud of that and own that. And so here she is. Lesley Logan 2:12  All right, Be It babe, we're about to have a very fabulous, wonderful conversation, and I think you're also just going to love to listen to our guest, because she's got one of those accents you just want to all the time. Aletta Rochat, thank you so much for being here. Will you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Aletta Rochat 2:26  Thank you, Lesley, wonderful to be with you. My name is Aletta Rochat. I'm speaking to you all the way from beautiful Cape Town South Africa. And my passion is helping people be more successful through the way they communicate. And the first person from Africa, never mind the first woman from Africa, who will soon be the international president of Toastmasters International, which I'm so excited for, and only the 10th woman in 100 years of the organization's history. So we are really helping, hopefully inspiring many other women to follow in my footsteps. I've coached and trained in 21 different countries, and I currently spend a lot of my time coaching clients to build executive presence, which is rooted in the way we communicate with each other and what we think about who we are and what we have to offer the world. And the author of two books on public speaking, so you can see, I'm just in the communication game. I love it. Lesley Logan 3:27  Okay, so first of all, congratulations. That is amazing, the accomplishments, and it's a little shocking in the length of time that you'll be the 10th but I, but I love that. I think it's important. I was really drawn to you because so many people are afraid of public speaking. So many people have a desire to share a story. Now, more than ever, I meet people who want to talk about the things that they do. They want to help people. They want to take their story and give it out there. But they could write the book. They could put the posts, but once they have to actually, like, put their face to words in front of people, and now public speaking isn't even just being on stage it's even just like putting stuff out on social media, people have a hard time communicating because they get so scared. Aletta Rochat 4:09  Yeah, they do. And it's, you know, people are scared for different reasons. Sometimes it's you've had a bad experience when you were at school and somebody laughed when you spoke up. Sometimes it's a comfort zone thing. So you find speaking to your friends, but should you be in a meeting at work and speaking to senior management? Suddenly your brain evaporates and you just can't get out. And it's not that the thoughts aren't within you. You've got the ideas, you've got the talent, you've got the commitment, but somehow articulating that in front of people can be very difficult. The thing that I've noticed in myself and other people, when you get anxious, your brain is thinking, oh my gosh, what am I going to say? And you're trying to formulate those words. At the same time, you're watching yourself make a fool of yourself. So the anxiety just explodes and it becomes almost impossible to be you. And ultimately, if you and I were sitting across the table having a cup of coffee together, you'd easily be able to tell me what your ideas were and why they're important. But, somehow, some context freak people out and then they just shut down. And then we don't see the real them. We don't see the value that they can offer.Lesley Logan 5:24  Yeah, well, thank you for, like, kind of normalizing it, because it's a common thing that people are going through. So, can we go back how did you get started in even helping people speak and communicate? Because that's not something, when you're a child, I wonder, like, is that something you dreamed of doing? Well, how did you get into this?Aletta Rochat 5:42  It was a survival skill. I had a very nomadic childhood. My dad was in mining, and from a very young age, we moved around a lot. So I was born in South Africa, we moved a couple of times there. By the time I was five years old, we moved to Zambia, and then we moved to Canada, and then we moved to Tasmania, and then we moved back to South Africa. So I can have I've got such a clear memory of being about eight years old, going to my next new school on my third continent, and standing in front of this classroom of people I didn't know, and innately knowing that the way I spoke to them would determine whether or not I had friends at break time. And of course, very importantly, if you're eight years old, whether or not you get an invitation to a birthday party. And I remember holding my mom's hand, you know, before she said goodbye and saying to myself, Aletta, you've done this before, you can do it again. And at that young age, I figured out a few basics. When you're new in an environment, you listen before you speak, because you've got to find out what's important to that group. And once you know what's important to them, then you can slot in on the conversation. That type of thing. So I had many opportunities to practice that as a child, I was always a kid with a funny accent, the one who started not at the beginning of the year, but midterm. And that happened again and again. And as an adult, with my husband's job, we moved and stayed in America, in Pittsburgh for a while. We lived in London. So, I got to repeat those practices many times. And then when I started coaching, I suddenly thought, where did I learn this? And it all went back to my childhood. So it was just very important to me to fit in, like for all of us, whether it's a new job or a new team or, you know, you're dating someone and they've got friends and family you want to fit in with, these skills are applicable in all those situations.Lesley Logan 7:40  Yeah, thank you for saying that because I also think people could hear, like, you're Toastmasters or not, because I could get coached for these things. But really, we all need these skill sets, even in family dynamics, especially now in family dynamics, not everyone agrees. How incredible, as a child that you're like you learn to observe and also to clearly state who you are and what you like, so that you could be accepted in. That's a superpower that you have. They were traveling and everything. But how did you get into Toastmasters and public speaking? Did your job have you doing presentations or did you decide, because you're a coach, you wanted to go out and talk? What was the impetus to make you want to go out and speak more?Aletta Rochat 8:20  So Lesley, I'm one of these strange people that actually has always enjoyed public speaking. I know I'm not the normal. But it never, it never freaked me out. So I've always enjoyed it, and I did it as part of my job, before I started raising kids, and then I got to the point I had three beautiful children and love being a stay-at-home mom, but I was wanting something for me, and when I went to my first Toastmasters meeting, it wasn't to become a better speaker. I joke that I was running away from my kids. I just wanted me time. And when I got there, I want to, I'm a lifelong learner. And immediately, I was so impressed with the people who were, you know, speaking that evening, and I knew I could learn, so I just followed the desire to learn. And of course, I loved communicating in any event. And I just there was a path I could never have foreseen that I would become the leader of this global organization at the time. But I just kept on saying yes to the next opportunity. They started asking me to do PR for the club, and I said yes. While I was doing that, someone called, and I said, well, come along to our meeting and see what it's like. And then she said, I'm phoning for my boss. He's too busy. Can't you help him? So I just said, oh, yes, I can. And that became my first client. And so it was an unintended consequence of joining Toastmasters was stepping into this role of coaching other people, and subsequent to that, I've got coaching certifications, and it's really my happy place training and leading and coaching is, feeds my soul, so I really enjoy it, and that means it doesn't feel like work.Lesley Logan 9:56  Yeah, you are seeking out things and then you would say yes to things. And I wonder, you know, some of the people who listen get themselves into places because they say yes too much. How did you make sure that when you were saying yes to things, that it actually was enhancing what you were doing and not compounding or stressing or causing you to not be able to do the things that you love? Is there something that you, you measured each yes with? Was it like a gut feeling? How did you do that? Because I'm wondering how we can take your like saying yes to these amazing things, to people who might be saying yes to not amazing things.Aletta Rochat 10:33  I think the reason you've got to, you've got to understand why you're saying yes. So if you're saying yes to get validation or you're saying yes to feel accepted, or you're saying yes because you're afraid of saying no, those could all lead you down very strange paths. So you've got to say yes to something that means something to you. You know, I've always been a volunteer. I love volunteering, but I remember when my kids, my son, was involved in scouting, and they wanted me to take on a role of quarter master, which was looking after all the scouting equipment. I just knew I had to say no because it didn't feed my soul, you know, I couldn't imagine anything. You know, I know they're talented people who do that job, but it wasn't me. So you've got to be true to yourself when you say yes, and it's got to bring you joy at some level, but it's not yes out of a sense of duty, and then you've got resentment for it. It's got to be something where you say yes because you want to give and you also want to learn. So to me, that, it's both sides of the coin. You can't just say yes to give and you're not learning or getting anything back. There's got to be value in it for you. And we've all got busy lives, and we've got to fit this into whatever else you've got going, your job, your family, looking after you as a person, your emotional and physical well being. So sometimes we get it right, sometimes we get it wrong, but I've always been one of these ones. I joke that I suffer from the Helium Hand Syndrome. So when people say, do you need anything? The hand magically goes up and, to your point, I've said yes to too many things in the past and then been burnt out. So I've learned to sit on my hand every now and again and make sure that I don't just it's not a reflex reaction. It's a considered action where I can add value and where it adds value to me.Lesley Logan 12:20  I love that you broke down all of that. And why are you saying I think that that is so important, you guys, I think you can all just take that clip apart. Everyone could just put it as a little card. Am I saying yes because I'm afraid of saying no. Am I saying yes because it's like, I'm like, you know, until it becomes an innate muscle, you know? I think that's really helpful because it is true. I know I had someone to send me a thing, and of course, I wanted to say yes to it. The yes was, like, a no brainer. The reason I said no is because the timing that just didn't work. There was no way I could do it. And so there's that part, that old version of me who's like, oh my God, if you say no to this, they're never going to ask again. And it's like, that is actually a story. If they are never going to ask me again, because I said no one time, I probably don't want to actually be with that kind of demanding space. But typically, I said, Oh my God, I'm so thrilled you asked me. I'm, I would love to do this. The date is wrong. I could do the weekends before, I could do the weekends after. I can't do that weekend. So you know, if the date changes, please consider me again. And they respond, of course, like that would be, thank you so much for letting us know. So it's like, you know, it's not, sometimes we, like I, could I have moved my other things to say yes? Not really. So I think it's really important for us to kind of understand why we're saying yes and what fears are coming up if we are struggling with it, you know, just paying attention to that stuff. What are some of the things that you, tools or sayings that you have that help you show up for all the things you want to do. Is there, like, a saying that you have, or something that someone taught you that helps you because you have so much confidence, and I imagine there was some of that you were born with, but like, what keeps you going in that way?Aletta Rochat 14:01  When I was running for election to a position, I've spent a lot of time speaking to past leaders and trying to glean information from them, and I'd chat to them and get their ideas and share my ideas, and at the end of every call, I would always say to them, what's the one thing in your opinion that I should remember as I go on this journey? And there was one of my colleagues who was senior to me in the organization, and he said words I've never forgotten, and he said to me, Aletta, remember that you belong. And that, to me, was so profound, because if I believe I belong, I'm likely to be more relaxed, more spontaneous, I'm more likely to share my ideas, and if I believe I belong, then I would probably be thinking at a different level. If I'm aiming for a senior position. And I thought, well, if I was in the C-suite, what would be important to me if I belonged, if I already had that position? How would I approach this? And that, to me, became quite a powerful mindset shift to check whether I'm waiting for someone else to tell me I belong, or whether I'm taking ownership and reclaiming my sense of belonging. And when I realized that I show up differently when I think I belong, and I thought, well, why don't I grant myself permission? Why does it have to be delegated to the world to give me a tick and say, yes, you can go the next step? So it's a powerful concept that's meant a lot to me personally, and when I've shared it with clients, it somehow resonates with people. If you belong, how would you show up? How would you speak up? Why would you share your ideas, or why wouldn't you share your ideas if you belong? So for me, it's almost like a fundamental building block of confidence and executive presence is this concept of belonging, but we can't give it to ourselves, and that was a game changer. Lesley Logan 15:55  Aletta, I'm obsessed with this because that is Be It Till You See It. If I belong, I show up differently. If I believe I belong here, if I believe I belong in the role I'm applying for, if I do that, your energy is different, how you answer the questions, you're not waiting for validation. I'm obsessed with this whole thing. So is this a mantra that you have people say? Is this something you repeat to yourself? Is it on Post-It notes like, how do you how did you incorporate it. How did you remind yourself?Aletta Rochat 16:22  It was so powerful to me that it suddenly became part of everything I did. If I belong. Because as soon as I felt as if I didn't belong, the clue was, that's when I'm not so sure of myself, and I start doubting myself. Where I start saying, well, you know, why am I here? So and so is better than me. Any of those negative voices that camp in your head. As soon as they became prominent, then I'd start to say to myself, but no, calm down. Take a step back. You belong. And if I can get into that calm state and say, actually, I do belong, then it's like a whole, my body calms down, my anxiety goes down, and then I can have clarity of thought, because it's not the anxiety tripping me up. So to me, it was just such a powerful saying that it I just embraced it and didn't let go of it. And now I've woven it into the coaching tools I have. I've created the I Belong playbook to get people to start thinking which areas of their life do they have a sense of belonging, and which is there a lack of a sense of belonging, and can we fix that by spending some time and saying, actually, if I did belong, what would I do? And a lot of that is linked in with self-acceptance, because if you belong, you're not wanting. You are enough if you feel you belong. And that's such a empowering thing. And it also just allows you to relax and be you, as opposed to trying to be something that you wish you would be, or you think someone else needs you to be. So it gives you permission just to just make it so much easier. Lesley Logan 17:56  Yeah, oh, my God, it there is an easy button. It's that mantra. But I, I, you hit something, you hit like on self-acceptance. And I think that is difficult. I think we have a lot of perfectionists who listen, a lot of over achievers, a lot of women. They're so amazingly powerful. They're awesome. They handle everything. They're handling their parents, health that's going on. They're handling their work, they're handling their kid's stuff. And yet I feel like sometimes they're where, like you can have the I belong in some areas, I feel like there is a lack of feeling they belong in the areas that they want to be going towards. And it's easy for them to use all this other stuff as an excuse, as a distraction to maybe not exploring the I belong, but also, like self-acceptance on that thing that they're desiring. Do you find that, like, have you worked with people in your coaching practice who, like, they can, they have some amazing areas where they belong, and then they're just not accepting themselves in the area that actually is where they desire to grow?Aletta Rochat 19:00  Exactly. One of the starting points for any coaching conversation I have with clients is trying to identify their superpowers. We all have them. But somehow society has conditioned us to say, oh, it's nothing. I can do this. It's nothing. It's, then we trivialize it, and once I start asking questions like, one of the clues to your superpowers is, what do other people ask you for help with so now you're really good at doing Excel spreadsheets and pivot tables and all this. And people come to you because you can do it in a heartbeat and they take three hours. You think it's nothing, because it's innate to you, but it's a gift you've been given. But where I find the disconnect is we know, maybe at a deep level, we're good at something, but we're almost scared to admit it or to articulate that to someone else, and therefore we hold back articulating our value and how we can help solve problems. And how we can move projects forward, because we somehow have this incredible anxiety around saying what we're good at, and once you get over that and saying, my superpower is, and this is how it can help you, you become someone who contributes to problem solving on a personal level, in your job, in your community, but if you aren't willing to share your God given talent, we don't know how wonderful you are, and you get overlooked. So that sense of belonging often is related to this trivialization of what we're good at, and if we can get over that, so much opens up. Lesley Logan 20:37  Yeah, yeah. I think it takes time. It always takes an outsider to help you with that. It's kind of hard to do, you know, like, there's some things you become aware of on your own, and some people a light bulb can turn on, and there's like, a lot like, I remember I did The Artist's Way once, and I was answering one of the questions, and I had an aha moment that I never had, ever thought about. And I was like, oh, no wonder I never cook. Like, when I was eight years old, my grandfather told me, like, are you fucking idiot? Why would you do this with the bread? And I did not realize that, oh, at a young age, I just kind of learned, you know, even though I was following a recipe, you know. So sometimes things can be done with an, with an, a book or, or a hearing something, and then other times, if you are hearing it and you know it, and you're struggling with it, you need support of someone to kind of guide you. How long have you been coaching and what drew you to supporting others?Aletta Rochat 21:29  I've been coaching probably for about 15 years now, and what drew me towards it? It's I get such a kick out of seeing other people blossom. It, to me that's, the best reward ever is when I share something, someone takes action on that, and they sent me a letter it worked. And to see clients growing in confidence, in whichever way is important to them. You know, it doesn't matter whether they're IT professionals or entrepreneurs or whatever, but to see them grow is just so powerful. So that feeds my soul, and it's something that I just as I say, it doesn't feel like work to me. I feel it's my purpose in life. That's my God-given talent is helping other people be more successful. So, for me, it's just natural to do it, and I enjoy doing it. And you know, I do it one-on-one. I do it in group coaching programs. I do it often with no reward whatsoever, just because I love it and it feeds my soul. So it makes sense. Lesley Logan 22:30  I think that's so fun about a lot of things we get to do on this world now. And so many of us have a superpower, and then we can make it be the thing that we do. And it doesn't have to feel like work. It can feel like part of any wonderful day that we're given to do. I have some questions, because I know some of our listeners have probably heard Toastmasters, but probably thought it was like the thing that their parents did in the 90s. Is that something that everyone should be doing, is it something only people who wanna publicly speak do? What drew you to it? I mean, obviously you run it, so obviously you're obsessed. But I would just like to know, because I remember when I was a young adult hearing about Toastmasters, but not necessarily something that, I've been told I should do it, and I just never did it. So I would love I'm curious now I'm asking you.Aletta Rochat 23:15  Toastmasters, for those who aren't aware of it, is an organization that teaches people public speaking and leadership skills, and we do that in clubs. So clubs usually about 20 people, some of them are bigger, some of them are smaller. And you come to club meetings and you choose your own speech topics. There's a curriculum that you can personalize. We call them pathways, and you decide which one you want to go to. And your first project, for instance, is called your icebreaker, where you simply introduce yourself to the club. We give you a few criteria. We tell you how long to speak for. So we time everything to try and train people not to go on and on or speak too short. And the beautiful thing about Toastmasters is two things, you're guaranteed an audience which often is hard to find, and you're guaranteed applause, and then, which is something very precious. And then in that audience, somebody will be given the task of giving you feedback. And if you were speaking, let's say, Lesley, we love that you did this, this, and this. Next time, challenge yourself. Here's my suggestion to improve that. So it's an incredibly positive, supportive environment. Everybody is there for the same reason. So it's an incredibly safe space. If you want to make mistakes, that's the place to make it. But that if you participate, within three months, you see such a tangible increase in confidence, which you take back to your family, your community, your career. So my advice is go to toastmasters.org and there's a Find a Club feature, and look for clubs in your area that meet at a day or a venue that suits you or a time, and go and visit a few clubs. They've each got their own personality. And don't be put off if they look different to you. They're older or younger than you. Just go and give it a go. You actually will be amazed. And one of the best things about it is you meet people that are different to you, people from different backgrounds, different experience sets, so your life, just by hearing their stories, is enriched. But it's a lot of fun. But you know, it's the best way to do it is just go attend a meeting and see what you think. Lesley Logan 25:23  What a fun hobby. I think that could be, even if you're not wanting to, I love that you brought up like you bring the confidence to the other parts of your life. We hear a lot of people, they struggle to make friends as an adult, because it's so much harder, like especially when you have kids, if you move to a new city, good luck making new relationships, new friends. It can be really difficult. But I sound, it sounds like Toastmasters would bring multiple facets of people to the same place, and so you can connect with other people. I mean, guaranteed applause. Who doesn't want that? But also, like. Aletta Rochat 25:53  In 150 countries all over the world, so, it's very hard to find a country that there isn't a Toastmasters club. So it's probably closer and easier than you imagine.Lesley Logan 26:02  I'm gonna look it up after just to see, because I've lived in the city four and a half years, but I find I have a great group of connections. But also I'm like, well, how would I meet more friends if I wanted to add more friends? Because, you know, it becomes, the city can come really small, if you like, stay in your group and you just have that network. So I think that it could be really cool. And also not that you have to want to go and be a public speaker, but also if you want to present in your office. You know.Aletta Rochat 26:26  In your office, at a wedding, at a friend's birthday, at a funeral. You know, there's so many opportunities we get to, especially these special occasions, speaking, where your speech is a gift that only you can give and you really want to do it well, you know, whether it's a friend or someone who's retiring or someone getting married, what a wonderful way to pay tribute to someone. And if you have a bit of practice, and you can even practice those speeches at Toastmasters and get feedback before the event, so that when the day comes, you can shine.Lesley Logan 26:59  Ah, that's so cool. That would have been very helpful when I had to speak at a funeral a few years back. Aletta Rochat 27:05  It's just so hard to do. It's not easy.Lesley Logan 27:06  So hard, you're so, you're so emotional, you're trying to, like, share your love, but you're also feeling your emotions. But I mean, you know, even though it's my company that I'm running, sometimes I have to present an idea. We talked about, at the beginning of this, it's like getting, in one-on-one, I could, like, totally share the idea, but then you got to present the idea to people who are the marketing department for it. They're the payroll department going, can we afford this? They're the ops department who has all these questions. And sometimes you're like, okay, now my idea doesn't, I don't have as much confidence in it. I feel a little muddy around it. I'm actually nervous, because now I have to translate it to all of you and get you excited, because I want to do it. It's hard. Aletta Rochat 27:45  Yeah, it's not easy, but with a bit of practice, you'll be amazed at how much easier it will get and how quickly you can achieve that.Lesley Logan 27:52  This is, I love this a lot. So what are you most excited about right now? We're in the new year when we're recording this. Is there something that you're super excited to do this year that you haven't been doing before, or is it more of the same?Aletta Rochat 27:59  I think it is growing what I've already done. I've got a beautiful group coaching program, and I want to invite more people into that, where I mentor them for a 12-month period on executive presence, and that group has just achieved so much that that is very exciting. I've also planning to publish a book on executive presence, putting all the tools that I've created and publishing that. Don't ask me for a publication date, because I don't know yet. I'm still trying to get it done, but it's a dream that excites me. Lesley Logan 28:37  Oh, around here, we love reading books, so you'll just have to let us know if there's a waitlist thing or something. Executive presence, is that something we all have inside us innately, or is that something that we have to cultivate?Aletta Rochat 28:49  I think people probably have an ability for it. Whether they nurture that ability is a different question. I remember when I was at school, the headmistress of my school, describing in a reference she wrote for me, she said a letter has a quiet authority, and in those days, maybe that was what executive presence was. So you don't have to be the loudest voice in the room. You don't have to be the best brain in the room, but if you have executive presence when you speak, people will listen because you're adding value, and you will speak in a way that contributes to the group and contributes to the bigger picture. So I believe everybody needs it and can cultivate it and can benefit from and it covers so many things. It covers the confidence, the self-belief, the sense of belonging, the way you articulate your message. So whether you're having to say no to someone, or whether you're giving feedback, or whether you're inspiring a team, if you've got executive presence, it's easier. So it's something that I think all of us should develop as a muscle, because the benefits are multifaceted, and it's not out of reach of anybody. We just have to become self aware, and then learn a few tips and tricks, and then have, build our awareness of others, because that's also part and parcel. You can't just be an island with your executive presence and nobody around you. You've got to learn to get the best out of people and give the best to people so that we all benefit.Lesley Logan 30:16  Beautiful. I think that what you're doing is really cool. You have such a calm, like this headmistress said, like this calm leadership about you, there's just something, and I think that's so nice. Sometimes people have so much fluttering energy. And there's something about you that everything that you say feels possible and doable, even, even if I've heard it before, but the way you say it, it's easy, like the I belong, and how that that can change the way we feel, and how all that can work. Lesley Logan 30:44  I wonder, before we take a brief break, what are the ways that you prioritize yourself because you are so passionate helping people and it doesn't feel like work, how do you make sure that you are prioritizing you in your day?Aletta Rochat 30:58  Got quite a good sense of when I'm not feeling at my best, and when that anxiety comes up when I'm just kind of not feeling me, my remedy is to go into nature, either go walk the garden, or take a dog for a walk or to have a run. Exercise and outdoors really helps me. My husband is very good. He'll just say, you know, what's going on? You know when, if it's Toastmasters related, he'll say, you joined to have fun. If you're not having fun, change something. So I'm also very aware of my energy levels. So, you know, I try and surround myself with people who lift my energy, and hopefully I do the same for them. So I've learned over the years to say no to things that aren't good for me, but I think it's just, it's almost like that barometer you've always just got to check how you're feeling today and if you're feeling off, why? I was trying to track it back, when did it change and what was it? And sometimes it's anxiety. You're worried about something, and then suddenly your energy changes, and then you become contracted inside, and then you can't be at your best. So how do you remedy that? Is it going back inside and reminding yourself that you belong? Is it taking a walk? Is it phoning a friend? It's just being aware of when you can recalibrate to get back into the position that you can be creative and spontaneous and add value, but knowing what it feels like when it's right and knowing what it feels like when it's wrong is a key to looking after yourself.Lesley Logan 32:29  I love that. I think that that's important to give ourselves time to do that, you know, I think that's really key. And it takes, it takes a muscle, it takes practice. I'll let everyone take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you, work with you, and your Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 32:44  All right, Aletta, you mentioned you have a I Belong playbook. I would like to know more, because I feel like that is the be it till you see it playbook right there and you've made it. So we may as well make sure people have it.Aletta Rochat 32:58  Well, I created it in the process of trying to challenge myself to identify which parts of my life I belong and which I don't feel I belong and why, and to kind of have a playbook where I can say, okay, that's the area I want to pick up on. So it's very simple. It's just prompts for you to follow. But the idea is that you do an inventory of your belongingness, of I can put it that way, I've never expressed it quite like that, and then that'll help you take the next step and inform yourself and just create that awareness that you can take further to get that sense of belonging and to cultivate it, nurture it. Because it's not a once and done deal. It's a practice, yeah, but it's a very powerful practice. So if people would like to download that they go to, I'm going to give you lots of letters here, H-T-T-P-S, you know the story, coaching.executivepresenceformula.com/belonging.Lesley Logan 33:55  We will put that in the show notes, guys. We will put that in the blogs. It's easy to click. Yes, that is wonderful. And do you hang out on any of the socials that people can find you, follow you on?Aletta Rochat 34:07  The best one to find me on is LinkedIn. And if you just Google my name or search my name on LinkedIn and send me a message, I'd love to have a conversation with you, and it's just, yeah, finding out, when I have a conversation with you, how I could be of service and, you know, whether we're a good match. And a conversation is the easiest way to determine that and then to see what's next.Lesley Logan 34:31  Love that. I love that. Thank you for that. Okay, you've actually given us so many great things. But for the people who may skip to the end, or they get to hit this point, and they are like, okay, but what, what should I do next? The bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it, what do you have for us?Aletta Rochat 34:48  The first thing I have is to own your sense of belonging, reclaim it if you've lost it. Second thing is you be the one to grant yourself permission to belong. It's within your power. You've got agency. It's a choice you have. And the third one is then start playing with it, start thinking, start speaking, start acting as if you belong, and watch the difference that results once you have that mindset. So it's reclaiming our sense of belonging. And that'll unleash so many possibilities for you, and it's something it's a gift you give yourself. Lesley Logan 35:26  Yes, yes. Oh my gosh, I love this so much. I think it's a great reminder and a wonderful tool. And so also, thank you for your playbook, because I do think the inventory of belongingness is, is key. People who listen to this, obviously, y'all want to know more about yourself, and I think what a great place to evaluate and have some aha moments. So, Aletta, thank you so much for being here and sharing your gifts with us and your positivity and your tools. You are wonderful. and you're doing great work. Lesley Logan 35:56  Y'all, make sure you share this with a friend. Share this with someone who needs to hear it. Make sure you hit up Aletta on LinkedIn and let her know your favorite takeaways and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 36:05  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 36:49  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 36:54  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 36:59  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 37:06  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 37:09  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, Lesley Logan highlights stories of women using power for good, from world-changing philanthropists to unsung heroes like Marty Goddard. She also shares community wins and a personal productivity breakthrough that proves how small changes lead to big results. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How the world's richest women are quietly creating real impact.Marty Goddard's invention of the rape kit and why her story matters.How staying top of mind helps Tami-Adrian land another podcast feature.Lesley shares how she simplified her inbox and saved hours of work.Why small wins and consistent action add up to lasting change.Episode References/Links:Laura Craik's Article - https://beitpod.com/lauracraikBuy Back Your Time by Dan Martell - https://a.co/d/cMHFKJR If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? How's it going? Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast, the Fuck Yeah Friday podcast. We talk about what is a win and we celebrate things that inspire us, and we have a mantra, and then we go about our day. So here we go, our win, or the inspiration, actually. The, well, I think this is a win too. So the inspiration that I found on the internet that really like made me happy. This, maybe, maybe it will make other people happy, but I love this. The title is What the World's Richest Men Could Learn From the World's Richest Women. And this is from Reshma's Instagram account, and Reshma had the bike face talk I'm pretty sure, and I really love her. So instead of fixating on power, living forever and winning the space race, Melinda French Gates, Laurene Powell Jobs, Anne Wojcicki and Mackenzie Scott are quietly trying to make the world a better place. So this goes on and talks about all the different things that these women are doing, but I just think, like, these ladies, I know, I bet you know their last names, these are our five richest women in the world, and they are doing epic, epic things from with the money that they have, and they're not doing anything to tear people down, to tear down a group of people. They're actually using their money for good. And so I truly, truly love that. These women are doing great things and so you should definitely look them up. There's an article from Laura Craick that was posted on February 5th 2025 so if you want to dive in more to what they're doing, and if you want to learn more about Reshma, I highly recommend it, because she talks a lot about worrying, about being, like, I only have a few minutes to say everything I was gonna say, and then, like, learning and meeting all these male CEOs and going, wait, you run this company, I can run circles around you, like, so it's just, I don't know. I found it really inspiring and I hope that you do, too. So go check that out. And let's all be more obsessed with what these women are doing, because I think that that's going to make us feel a whole lot better in this world with all that's going on. And let's be impressed and empowered and, and all the things from them. And then I'm going to give you one more thing, and I'm going to go into your wins. Lesley Logan 2:53  So meet Marty Goddard, the woman who invented the rape kit, while she didn't receive credit for her work, shocking, she revolutionized sexual assault forensics. Yeah. So get this, in the 1970s, few women felt safe. There's tons of sexual abuse. Spousal rate was still, was still legal, freaking crazy, until 1993. Let's not go into that, that's going to depress us all. But Marty Goddard was a volunteer for a phone hotline for runaway teens in Chicago. Many callers reported sexual abuse, but not necessarily to the police. Marty took upon herself to further investigate cases by visiting crime labs and hospitals, interviewing as many people as possible. And a standard was set. In doing this, she developed a standard by which evidence is collected following a rape. Her evidence collection kit included basic supplies, cotton swabs, a comb, paper bags, labeled envelopes and glass slides for semen specimens, plus protocols, forms and resources for victims, its simplicity made it affordable, replicable and the more likely to be adopted. The kit opened doors to our understanding of victims and abuse. In other words, these cases are no longer had to be a "he said, she said" sort of thing. She was not given credit. Under the nonprofit Goddard was running, the kit was trademarked as the the "Vitullo Evidence Collection Kit for Sexual Assault Examination." She routinely worked very closely with the police department order to make the progress she did, and an effort to not ruffle any feathers, gave the kit the name after police sergeant, Louis Vitullo. Newspapers credited Louis Vitullo, often reducing Marty Goddard to his assistant or ignoring her entirely. But she didn't chase recognition. She channeled her energy into expanding the kit's reach because impact mattered to her more than credit. So why it matters? The mention of the rape kit has helped countless victims find justice. Survivors still fight to be heard, but rape kits provide crucial evidence that strengthens their case. Hundreds of thousands of untested rape kits sit in a police storage. Goddard gave us a tool to fight for justice. It's up to us to push that fight forward with legislative reform funding and by holding law enforcement accountable for processing evidence in a timely manner. So you guys, we do have some work to do there. I would highly recommend calling your local people and like making sure that they're funding these things. But I just thought, how cool is this person? Like she was more she was more obsessed with getting people to adopt this kit and use it so people, victims, could actually get help. So it won't be a "he said, she said" and now she's getting the recognition that she deserves. Very, very cool. Lesley Logan 5:06  Okay, let's go and do a win of yours. So this is from Tami-Adrian George, and she said, a podcast about pickleball reached out to me to be my guest with my topic, Pilates for Players. The invite is a win by itself. And they why they contacted me is its own win. A second host from a completely different topic and show, I guess it's over a year ago, suggested my name with a lovely glow up. Like LL and Brad have said and has mentioned in many webinars, always about keeping in touch. I would comment on the second host post, listen to an episode and comment maybe three or four times a year and they remembered. And when I asked my college boy which friend group he'd be with and where they were going for spring break, he said he just really wants to come home and eat my cooking and curl up with his cats and chill. So cue the mommy tears. You know, I bought that plane ticket so fast. So I love this. How cool is that, that she made such an impact on one podcast and then she stayed in touch by just commenting. And then another podcast was like, oh, we want to have you on. Because the first podcast was like, yeah, this person has stayed top of our mind. So way to stay top of mind. Tam, it's not the easiest thing to do, and you did it. It all takes work, you guys. It all takes time and effort and energy, but stay in touch with people, even little things like liking and commenting. I tell you guys all the time, reviews on this podcast are, like, revenue. If you like this podcast, you don't have to send me money. You can actually just leave a review. Sharing this with other people, that's what does it right? These are things that podcast hosts think about. So way to go, Tami, you're amazing. Lesley Logan 6:37  Okay, so something I wanted to share that's, like, really exciting is I had this goal. So last summer, I heard about this book called Buy Back Your Time, and it's Dan Martell's book. And it's not something I was like, opposed to, like, oh, we always hire so it's not like a thing that we don't do. But he had a chapter about the inbox, about an email inbox, and I between my email inbox and all the Slacks that I'm in and the communities that I'm in, like, there's, I can't get to everything every day, and then I would get into my inbox, or I'd use my inbox to procrastinate, and it would derail the day, because there never would be something in there that wasn't time consuming. And so what his book suggested is that your assistant goes to your inbox and, like, organizes it, and then you only have to respond to the things you have to respond to, and then they can respond to things that they can respond to. I don't need to respond to someone that Tuesday at 1pm is great for a meeting. My assistant can see that 1pm is free. She can just book it for me, right? That's really cool. So anyways, I knew about this last summer, but I didn't have the time to implement it. There were so many things going on. So first of all, the first win is I did not force implementation of this during a time that we had too much going on, right? I set a goal that I wanted to implement this idea in Q1 of 2025, and guess what?, you guys, before mid March, we had, my assistant had, I read the chapter, she read the chapter, she implemented it, and we came up with systems at work before the end of March. So here we are, middle of May, almost end of May. And I can tell you right now I go into my inbox every day, and it can take under 15 minutes to respond to everything and then move on. And I don't feel like, oh my God, what's in there? What am I gonna see? Oh, I'm gonna get distracted by a pair of pants and procrastinate there. So anyways, that's my win. Really made me excited. Lesley Logan 8:14  So now, it's time for your mantra. Here we go. While the world praises big moves, I applaud the little acts of magic that can make it happen. So, while the world praises big moves, I applaud the little acts of magic that that make change happen. You are a badass. Thank you so much for listening until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 8:38  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Branding isn't just logos and fonts—it's your energy, your story, and your “why”. In this recap, Lesley and Brad explore how aligning with your purpose and showing up consistently is the secret sauce to building a magnetic brand that truly connects. With insights on storytelling, clarity, and emotional connection, this episode is packed with real talk for business owners ready to attract aligned clients and stand out from the noise. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why how your brand makes people feel matters more than what you sell.Why aligning your mindset with your message attracts the right clients.Why consistency—not perfection—builds trust and connection.How storytelling drives emotional engagement with your brand.Why your brand should start with your “why,” not your “what”.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/eventsUK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukeLevate Workout and Q&A - https://lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlistPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comEp. 57: Hilary Hartling - https://beitpod.com/hilaryhartlingHilary Hartling Website - https://hilaryhartling.comHilary Hartling Instagram - https://instagram.com/hilaryhartlingBrand Vision Meditation - https://beitpod.com/brandvisionmeditation If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the clarifying convo I had with Hilary Hartling in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to the interview, feel free to pause this, listen to that one, then come back and listen to this one, or listen to this one and then go see if you like the same takeaways we liked. You can do whatever order you want. It's quite fun. Brad Crowell 1:12  Hilary is amazing. Lesley Logan 1:13  I just fucking love her. Brad Crowell 1:14  Yeah. And honestly. Lesley Logan 1:15  You are, if you, if you, we'll get into it in a second, but just like if you to stop, pass and go in this moment on of this episode, you should go, if you have a business, you have to, well, if people just want to stop listening, they could go. They just need to know this real quick before they stop listening, which now they probably stopped. But if they have, they're still here, you have your own business, you have to, like, work with Hilary at some point,like, she's just a fucking badass. And she's, like, so humble about it. Like a hundred box office situation. We'll get to that in a second.Brad Crowell 1:46  It was just 70 something, 75, you know, top box office movie releases, and she basically did the messaging for the marketing team. Lesley Logan 1:55  Yeah, actually she's a bad ass. Brad Crowell 1:56  Kicking ass. Lesley Logan 1:57  Today is May 22nd 2025 and it's Harvey Milk Day. On May 22nd, we honor the life and legacy of Harvey Milk, the first openly gay politician in California and a leader of the American Civil Rights Movement. Time magazine included Harvey Milk on a list titled The 100 Most Important People in the 20th Century. Milk was not only an advocate for the LGBT community, but all for all minorities. He believed in safe, strong neighborhoods and supported public education, affordable child care and equal rights for all. Just right there, we have more to go, but it pisses me off he's fucking dead, because just imagine if he'd lived longer, we probably would have had all those things a lot sooner. But anyway. Brad Crowell 2:33  And this was 1978, we are almost 50 years later and still fighting for the same goddamn things. Lesley Logan 2:40  Sometimes some of us are fighting for the ones we had already. Elected to the position of city supervisor in San Francisco, he held office for one year before his life was tragically cut short in 1978 by a political rival who opposed Milk's liberal views. Harvey Milk's contributions to the cause of equality for all people has been recognized in a number of ways, including the issuance of a stamp with his picture on it, the posthumanist award of the Medal of Freedom and the creation of a holiday in his memory. Harvey Milk Day was officially established as a holiday in 2009 when Arnold Schwarzenegger, then the, then governor of California, signed it into law. Although Milk died, his work continues today through the work of the Harvey Milk Foundation, founded by his nephew, Stuart Milk, in honor of his uncle. I just want to say, if you actually want to go even deeper on this, there's a great movie, I believe, with Sean Penn. And then if you also want to know more, you should listen to the You're Wrong About episode about the Twinkie defense, because the man who murdered him used the Twinkie defense to not have the death penalty. And so I just w ant, like, it's a really, it's also.Brad Crowell 3:49  The Twinkie defense was basically that processed foods and sugar jacked him up to the point where he committed murder. That's just, like, high level summary of it. Lesley Logan 3:58  And side note, I just listened to an entire podcast where there's a scientist who's actually trying to prove that processed food is changing people's minds, and they're actually discovering not in the way that we think. Anyways. I mean, I'm a little upset about it, mostly because I just hate when amazing people are murdered and then other assholes find an asshole way to get away from it. So go learn about Harvey Milk and on this day and do something in your community that can support those in the LGBTQ DEI communities because they need your help. They need people to stand up, people like you. Lesley Logan 4:28  Okay, you guys, we literally just announced Summer Tour. We just did it. Actually it was about a week ago. So tickets have been selling really fast. Brad Crowell 4:37  Like super fast. Lesley Logan 4:38  And here's the deal. Our winter tour, we had several cities sold out in 24 hours, and a ton of cities sold out in the first week. So if you if this is the first time you're hearing about the Summer Tour. Brad Crowell 4:47  Lo Santo, get on it. Lesley Logan 4:48  Yeah, run. Don't walk to opc.me/events and snag a spot. We're doing west coast. We're also, holy fucking moly, going into Canada. And because of all the shenanigans going on, we are filling out intense paperworks, paying lots of money to get our van and our cute dog across the border so we can teach in three cities in Canada. Brad Crowell 5:11  And ourselves. Lesley Logan 5:12  And ourselves. Yes, yes. Brad Crowell 5:13  All the paperwork, all the paperwork, all. Lesley Logan 5:16  There's a lot. So we want to see you. We especially want to see you in Canada. So get your, get your classes, too. One or two, Canadians. Maybe come to two of them. So opc.me/events. The Mullet Tour is our business in the front Pilates in the back, two day event. It is in the U.K., and it is at opc.me/uk. We have a Leeds location and an Essex location. By the time we're recording this, Leeds has four spots left, and Essex is half sold out. So here's the deal. Probably you're looking at Essex only, but just go and look and see. Space is super limited in both and you don't have to be a Pilates teacher to go. Just be a Pilates lover, especially in Essex, the two business, in air quotes, workshops are actually life workshops, and so they're super, super fun. Lesley Logan 6:04  And then I am hosting an eLevate workout and Q&A really soon, it's going to be this summer. So if you've been hearing about eLevate, you're not really sure, if you're a teacher, comprehensively trained teacher, and you would like to teach a little bit more like me and have less talking in your words. Or if you want to have more confidence, what, you explain it, you're looking at me like I'm making shit up.Brad Crowell 6:29  I'm super laughing at you. Yes, you would be teaching more like Lesley, but that's not. Lesley Logan 6:33  You'll still teach like you. Brad Crowell 6:34  The reality, the reality is that Lesley learned what from Jay Grimes for about 10 years. More than 10 years, she's passing on everything she learned to you during this program. It's a nine-month program. It is going to cover all the different pieces of equipment and literally hundreds of exercises that Lesley has learned. And also we're going to connect you with some other amazing, epic, epic, epic Pilates people from around the world during this program. Literally, you've had people find their new best friend they never knew they they didn't have. So. Lesley Logan 7:06  It's really quite fun. Brad Crowell 7:07  It's super, super cool. And then after that, you'll be able to call yourself a third generation teacher. You'll actually understand what to do with anybody that walks through the door. You can stop class planning. You can stop talking as much while, while you're teaching. I don't know why we pick up these habits along the way. Not that I'm a teacher, but it is the biggest confidence booster. That's the biggest feedback we get, is the amount of confidence that's boosted. So anyway, eLevate is awesome. And literally, we've already started filling 2026's group. So.Lesley Logan 7:34  2026 is more than half filled. Brad Crowell 7:36  Yes, literally, more than half filled. And there's not going to be that many spots. So join this waitlist now, when we do this big event, we're gonna do a class, we're all gonna hang out, we can answer questions about it. Is it the right thing for you? Is the timing right? All those kinds of things, you know, how does it all work? Everything. Go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist, elevate waitlist. Okay?Lesley Logan 7:56  And next, Brad, what else do we have? Brad Crowell 7:58  Yeah, hey, if you are making money by teaching Pilates in any way, I want you to come to my free Pilates income accelerator, okay, it's an income accelerator, so it's applicable to anybody who's taking money from clients, okay, or getting paid as a teacher, and you're eventually hoping to take clients at home or somewhere else, or whatever. This program has been incredibly beneficial to I mean, I've been doing similar webinar now, workshop now for, like, more than almost a year, and we're going to be covering the three biggest secrets that Lesley and I have learned after coaching more than 2500 people just like you, who are teaching people and getting paid for it. So I want, if you want to accelerate your income with Pilates, go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator and come join me for free. It's really great. So, finally, Les, what are we doing? Lesley Logan 8:52  Lastly, but not leastly, you need to come to our retreat this summer in Siem Reap. You need to come. crowsnestretreats.com is where you can get the information. But, I'm telling you, we have a lot of people like, oh, I'm gonna go next one. I'm gonna go to the next one. There is never a perfect year to take yourself on an international trip. Everything feels overwhelming. And I promise you, I promise you, this retreat is the least overwhelming thing you'll ever do, because once you land on that at the airport in Siem Reap, we pick you up. We have someone who takes care of you. You don't have to worry about anything. The whole trip is planned. We actually make sure you get to see all the things that people want to see, all the things people didn't know they should see, all the, all of the things. It is the most amazing schedule of a retreat ever. And we get to hang out together in this really close-knit group. We're like a family. If you really want to hang out with me in person, the best thing you can do is go on a retreat, because you literally get to hang out with me all day, every day, and we do Pilates, and we do breath work, and we do a ton of other stuff. So it's kind of amazing. Brad Crowell 9:47  You know? So, okay, so we were in Thailand. We were in Northern Thailand, and we went to Chiang Rai, and while we were there, we did a tour. Now, I am averse to tours. That's not my jam. I prefer to figure it out on my own. I want to walk around the city by myself and just like experience the city and feel it. And the reality is that I was feeling overwhelmed, and I knew this vacation was coming, and I was really looking forward to the vacation, but I ran out of time to literally learn all the cool potential things that I might want to do in Chiang Rai and then weigh them against each other and check our schedule and map out my own plan, which is what I normally love to do. I love to get my hands dirty. Lesley Logan 10:29  That's why we do these tours, guys, because he plans every part. Brad Crowell 10:32  So yeah, it was so much to try to comprehend with just whatever was happening in my life that we asked around and we found a tour group that we could go with that effectively planned out an entire day. We did like, eight or 10 things, and I'm not gonna lie, it was fucking long, but it was really nice, because we had someone who could explain what was actually going on. Then we would stop at the place for an hour, we walk around and check it out, and come back and and I, for the first time in my life, since I was like, 18, because that's the last time I did that kind of a thing. I was like, You know what? This is really helpful. You know why? Because I didn't have to plan the damn thing. So that is exactly what Cambodia is for you. You don't have to plan it.Lesley Logan 11:09  Our Cambodia, specifically. Brad Crowell 11:11  Yeah, when you come to the retreat with us, you don't have to plan anything. We literally take care of all of it for you. And I'll tell you right now it is, we have now done, Lesley and I have led over 20 retreats, 21 retreats over the years, not all in Cambodia, but we are really good at what we do now, because we've just got so many reps under our belt. We now have mapped out this specific Cambodia retreat in a way that is just, it's like butter, it's amazing, and I'm so proud of it. And I'm telling you, you're going to get there and be like, I felt like I had enough free time. I got a chance to do some adventure stuff. I still felt safe. I ate amazing food. I met cool people. There's something exciting about being in another city, in another country, and all the things, and we really want you to come join us. So, do that. Go to crowesnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. Before we keep going, though, Les, we had an audience question, and this time we're gonna switch it. You're gonna read the question. Lesley Logan 12:07  I'm reading it. So this is actually so what we thought to just mix it up for this week. If you hear about Agency and you hear about the Lesley bot, or the pocket Lesley, or whatever we're calling it right now, you might be like, I don't understand what that means, because you can't see it. Brad Crowell 12:21  Agency is Profitable Pilates, y'all, so our coaching group where we coach Pilates business instructors, yeah. Lesley Logan 12:27  Yeah. So I thought it'd be fun. I'm going to keep their name anonymous, because I, that would be the right thing to do, but we had somebody ask the pocket Lesley. This person also lives in a different country, so when this came in, technically, I was, like, very much asleep. And so this is so fun for me to see, because I actually do read what comes through, mostly what's alerted, but also i'll just like, you know, just like, out of quality control and curiosity, I'll go through some of the others and to see if I'm like, I like that answer. So this person wrote, they're an Agency member, and they put into the Pocket Lesley, hi, Lesley, how can I get private clients for one-on-one sessions? And Pocket Lesley wrote back right away, by the way, she's so fucking quick and her grammar is better than mine. To attract private clients for one-on-one sessions, the key is to combine clarity in your offerings with proactive outreach. Here's how you can get started. One, refine your message. Make sure your website and social media clearly communicate who you are as an instructor, and the benefits of private sessions with you. High level, it makes you unique, whether it's your expertise in a specific area, like posts where you have Pilates, or your ability to tailor sessions to individual goals. If your messaging is too broad, it won't resonate with your ideal clients. And then the Lesley, pocket Lesley cited two sources in Profitable Pilates that's in the curriculum or elsewhere, so that this person could actually go dig into just refining your message. Number two, leverage, current clients. Your existing clients are your best marketers. Ask them to refer friends or family who might benefit from private sessions. You could even offer an incentive, like an intro session for the referer or for the new client. That one also has sources. Number three, network locally. During your downtime, visit local businesses, introduce yourself. For example, if you teach near a coffee shop or gym, strike up conversation with people there. Share what you do and invite them to try a session. Building relationships in your community can lead to valuable referrals, more sources cited within your Profitable Pilates curriculum and community. Literally, I know you're like, I'm shy. I don't care if you're shy, you are the person who's gonna help people, okay? Number four, partner with complimentary businesses. Think about where your ideal clients spend their time. Partner with businesses like physical therapy clinics, yoga studios or even golf courses. Offer special promotion for their clients, like an introductory private session. This not only gets your name out, but also positions you as a trusted expert. Also more sources on that. Number five, this is the last one, optimize your online presence and show you're easily found online. If someone searches Pilates in your area, your website should be near the top of the results. Simple SEO tweaks can make a big difference. If this feels overwhelming, I can guide you further. It also cites a source. Which takes you to a course that's in your curriculum that you have access to as an Agency member, which helps you write copy that converts. So, you know, like all of that's her. Then she goes on to ask her more stuff. And this person was able to have, continue to have a conversation. But I share that with you because I think it's really like, you're like, I don't know, I don't know how, like, I don't want to talk to like, not Lesley. You were literally talking to me. It's just, it's an AI version of me who's been trained on 10 million of my words over 10 years of coaching calls and courses and webinars. Oh, my God, so many things. Brad Crowell 15:33  Like, so much content. Lesley Logan 15:34  And so what's really cool is you don't have to wait for my response, because if you wait, then you have to wait for my response, and then you could lose two days or three days, you could been working on getting, attracting those one-on-one clients. So I hope it was fun to kind of hear what's happening behind the scenes with the Pocket Lesley, if you are an Agency member, obviously we love answering your questions, so you can just send them in. But I wanted to just override that this is.Brad Crowell 15:58  Yeah, I love that. And if you're wondering what the heck is Agency? Come to the Accelerator that I was talking about, the income accelerator, prfit.biz/accelerator. But at the end of that, we talk about what is Agency. And then I also answer your questions live. So any question about your business there, we can talk about it, but we can also, you know, dig in a little bit more on what is the Pocket LL, and how does it all work. It's really fun. Lesley Logan 16:19  So you don't have to be tech savvy to use her. It's like texting with a friend, and that friend just happens to be really smart around your business. Brad Crowell 16:27  That's true. Stick around, we'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this epic conversation that you just have with Hilary Hartling in just a minute. Brad Crowell 16:36  Welcome back, everybody. Let's talk about Hilary Hartling. Hilary is a brand and messaging strategist for mission-driven entrepreneurs who want to captivate the right clients with clarity and confidence. With 15 years of experience at Disney as a marketing executive, Hilary blends big brand insights with soul-aligned strategy to help business owners stand out. Through her signature programs, she helps clients find their voice and embody their purpose and create a brand that's both impactful and magnetic. And I think she still may hold the record for the most webinars for our coaching group. Lesley Logan 17:13  I think so. Brad Crowell 17:14  She might be tied with Monica, four, five. Lesley Logan 17:18  I feel like we've had Hilary one more time than Monica, but I learned from her every single time. Her last one was the best one. She's just, she's gold. You know, we've always talked about having an ideal client avatar. You hear that all the time, and she's like, they need to be a real person. And so it's an ideal real person client avatar, and she's just, she teaches so much, and she's really, truly great, no matter how big your business is. So one of the things that I love, that she said, is every brand has an energy to it. Every business owner has an energy, and that is what radiates out. She explained that when you harness your own energy and articulate your most authentic self, that's when you captivate your audience. And she called it a reciprocal energy flow, where what you put out is what you attract back. And this is important. This is and I have experienced this in my life, the minds and beliefs you have around your brand reflect in your audience response. If you were feeling like shit about your business. And then you wonder, when everyone's piling on and making your, you feel like more shit. It's because that's what you're putting out. You know, like, that's what you're putting out there. And so she emphasized that brand energy isn't about features, but how people feel when they engage with your business. So a lot of times, you get really excited about the features and all the different things that your business does, but you're not actually talking about how people are going to feel. Brad Crowell 18:34  Yeah. 100% this is the most clear example. Hey, y'all Pilates class starts at six, right? That's the messaging. Instead of, hey, you know, when you take a class here, you're going to feel amazing, right? Way different thing, like, Pilates class starts at six. Do I even want to go? Who are you? What's in it for me? Why? Okay, great. I know Pilates, but that's not compelling enough. Whereas it's like, oh, you know a place where you'll find Zen, community and energy, you know, like something like that, when you're, when you're when you're painting the picture of what they're, they're gonna get, what they're gonna feel when they engage with you. It's totally different. Lesley Logan 19:12  Go from exhausted to on fire, you know, like or whatever, and you but you have to use the words and the feelings that your people want. They might not want to feel like a rock star. They might want to feel Zen, or they might not want to feel Zen, that word might make him feel tired, so like you got to know them a bit. But I just really love that she brought it back to us as the business owner. We have to focus on how our mindset is around our business, so that we are actually attracting the people we really want to engage with.Brad Crowell 19:38  Yeah, I really loved when she was talking about consistency. She said it's one of the pieces that creates the magic for your brand. Consistency is one of the pieces that creates magic for your brand. She explained that not everyone is consistent, and obviously that is your edge. Just keep putting one's foot in front of the other, one step at a time. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. You know, we've talked about the overnight success thing before, which we, is obviously hilarious. You're a 10-year overnight success. But how did they do that? They did that because they just maintained they were consistent. Also, when you're consistent, one of the big pluses is that you stay in front of your audience. You stay at the top of their mind. You're putting out that email like daily emails have the least unsubscribes, right? Daily, weekly, if you're monthly, that doesn't feel consistent, even though you know you're just sending one a month, they're gonna look at and be like, who's that person again? I can't remember. When you're top of mind, people immediately think of you. It's one of the ways that you can be, quote-unquote, become known, but on your own list, right? You're staying known in their lives, wherever they are, as opposed to getting known in your community, which is obviously just as important. It's just that's in real life, out and about where this is, like the newsletter examples on your list, but when people are ready to buy they're going to be like, oh yeah, I wanted to do that Pilates thing, and they're going to be like, oh well, I've been following such and such Pilates person, and I'll just go back and get the most recent email, because they know where it is, right? And she said that showing up, you don't need to be like a rocket scientist or like the the most prolific Pilates teacher in the world in order to build a business, because when you're consistent, you don't have to be this big, flashy speaker, this big person in front of the room all the time to get people's attention. Just by being consistent, you can, you can stay connected to them. So, yeah, I love that. I thought that was amazing. Lesley Logan 21:28  Yeah. I just, I mean everything. If you, if you're listening to this and you haven't listened to her, you should go listen to her. And you have to listen to her, her other one with us, because, like, it's kind of amazing. They're different, and they build on each other, and you'll see exactly how consistent she is and like what she believes. Brad Crowell 21:45  Yep. All right, well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into those, be it action items that we got from Hillary in just a minute. Brad Crowell 21:53  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Hilary Hartling, I'm going to jump in first. She echoed Simon Sinek, and she said, people don't buy what you do. They buy why you do it, right? They don't buy what you do. They buy why you do it. So if they are buying, why you do it, but you're talking about what you do, you're missing it. You're disconnected from them, right? You need to be talking about why you do it, or why they should be doing it, the why. It's all about the why, right? Your brand needs to express what you believe in, not just what you sell features, you know, and the features or the process, right? So that's where, when we are sitting down with new people to figure out, who am I supposed to be talking to, we start internally first. What is your mission here? What is your vision for your business? What is your mission? Why are you doing this? Why, why, why are you doing this? Right? What are your values? How do we figure those things out? And then who are we trying to connect to that's probably going to really resonate with those things. The language that you use when you're out there talking to people is the secret sauce, y'all, in marketing. It's all about the language you use. How do we figure out that language? We got to figure out these other things first. What is your mission, vision, values? Who is it that you're trying to talk to? What are the things that they connect with? How do we take all of that information and then boil that down into your we call it an I help statement. You know, it's like an elevator pitch. It's like, how do you concisely say something but still make it attractive to them? So you know, it really does start with your why. She talked about the Disney story about marketing the movie called The Rookie. She's like, it's not just a baseball movie, right? Even though, clearly it's about baseball, she said it's actually a story about second chances and never giving up, right? Consistency, tenacity, determination, all those kinds of things. It happens to be surrounded by baseball. But the story is actually about, you know, the success of after being consistent, right? And she said, when you, when you start to identify these things, let's make the parallel. It's not about baseball. It means it's not about the Pilates. It's not about the Pilates. Y'all. It's about it's a story about second chances and never giving up. Their Pilates journey with you could be about carving out time for themselves that from their chaotic life, like treating themselves first. It could be about building that strength. It could be about making sure that they can play with their kids or grandkids, you know, if they're aging. Or it could be about whatever the story is for them. Maybe they're an avid golfer and they blew out their knee and they need rehab, right? So it's not about the Pilates, y'all, it's about the thing in that's that brought them to do the Pilates. Obviously you need to be good at teaching Pilates, but that's not the ultimate point, so.Lesley Logan 24:42  And if you're not a Pilates instructor, listen to this, it's whatever you do. Insert that word there. Brad Crowell 24:46  Yeah, it could be yoga. It could be rehab, pyro. Lesley Logan 24:49  You don't even have to be in business to really understand that you yourself are like a brand. If you like to host people over. It's not you have to sell people to come in to your dinner. But when you're consistent, it makes it so much easier for you to do the thing that you love, which is like hosting people for dinner, you know, so it applies to everyone. My biggest takeaway is that she really tied branding back to the, to intuition. So for my woo-woo folks, this part's for you. She said, when you're in your flow, you only attract what you want. You become a magnet for the best people, opportunities and growth. Her advice is, figure out what excites you and follow it. When you wake up excited you are in your flow. And this is so true, because actually, the worst night's sleep, I slept so hard for four hours in the night dreaming that I need to be up. It was a little I don't know why anyways, but I was so excited for the day that I was having, even though I was like, oh my God, I really need to take a nap, and there's no time today, I woke up excited, and I started with my day, and I, like, did all the things, and here we are talking middle of the day, which would be a prime nap time, and it's not going to work out for me, but I am so excited. I'm in flow because I'm doing what my intuition is wanting. I'm doing the things that, like, really call me. She also advised not to wait for perfection, because it can't be perfect unless you put it out there to get feedback from your ideal clients. So you will never make anything perfect without it actually going out into the world getting feedback, you tweaking it, you putting it back out there. It's just how, it's, nothing, sorry, guys, nothing is ever done. It just keeps getting better.Brad Crowell 26:20  It, yeah, I mean, it's the fail faster mentality, right? You know, the reality is that when you wait for it to be ready, quote-unquote, you know, or you to be ready, quote-unquote, you will never be ready. You'll never be ready, right? And so then what ends up happening is you're preparing, preparing, preparing, preparing for years, but you never pull the trigger, as it were, you never actually take that step to get out there. And the people who take that step when they're not feeling ready are the people that move forward, moving forward right? Otherwise you're, you're hoping that it's going to happen, but you're not actually doing it, right? So, I totally agree. You know, perfectionism, it is such a roadblock. It's such an obstacle, and it holds us back. Brad Crowell 27:07  Yeah, it's really holding a lot of people back. It's holding people from seeing your authentic self. So, thank you, Hilary, for reminding us to go with our intuition and follow our authenticity and go back to what's the feeling. You're so amazing. You guys, go check her out.Brad Crowell 27:20  By the way, she has, like, a really awesome meditation situation. She's got a guided meditation that helps you, in 20 minutes, start to identify some of the main language that you should be using to support your clients or attract those clients. I think we put the link in the last episode, but we can also put the link in this episode too. Lesley Logan 27:40  So good. Brad Crowell 27:40  So go check that out. We love Hilary Hartling. She is amazing. Lesley Logan 27:44  We almost just named her Harling. Hilary Hartling. You guys, thank you so much for being here. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 27:52  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 27:53  I hope this really, truly helps you in the next steps to being it till you see it. So if you have any questions, feedback, anything like that, make sure you send it in to us and make sure you share this to the friend who needs to hear it. Right? 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Brand strategist and second time guest, Hilary Hartling returns with fresh insights on building magnetic brands that reflect who you are and speak to who you serve. In this powerful conversation, she and Lesley Logan talk about how energy, clarity, and authenticity are at the heart of every great brand. Hilary also shares tips for avoiding branding ruts, using AI without losing your voice, and why consistency is more important than perfection. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why brand energy creates stronger emotional connection.How to use and integrate AI to amplify your voice.Why consistency is the true magic behind standout brands.Why figuring out your “why” matters more than your process.How to identify and attract your ideal client with clarity.A powerful tool for reconnecting with your purpose and message.Why launching with clarity leads to faster, more aligned sales. Episode References/Links:Ep. 57: Hilary Hartling - https://beitpod.com/hilaryhartlingHilary Hartling Website - https://hilaryhartling.comHilary Hartling Instagram - https://instagram.com/hilaryhartlingBrand Vision Meditation - https://beitpod.com/brandvisionmeditationGuest Bio:Hilary Hartling is a Brand & Messaging Strategist who helps entrepreneurs build captivating, heart-led brands that deeply resonate with their audience. With over 15 years of experience as Vice President of Integrated Marketing & Synergy for powerhouse film brands like Disney, Pixar, and Marvel, Hilary now brings that blockbuster-level strategy to mission-driven business owners. Through her signature programs and intuitive approach, she helps clients translate their vision into messaging that feels authentic, aligned, and magnetic. Whether through one-on-one consulting or her Brand Polish Academy, Hilary empowers creatives and coaches to articulate their unique value, attract right-fit clients, and show up consistently with confidence and clarity. Her work is rooted in both strategy and soul—because when your brand reflects your truth, success becomes inevitable. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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So that's why it's good to define the kind of brand you want to share, what do you want it to be known for, and then really understand how to mirror your audience.Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:59  Okay, Be It babe. This, this is the podcast for your business that you always needed. So I know a lot of you are trying to start a thing. You have a thing and you get stuck. You get stuck, you get in your own way. And my guest today, the reason why I freaking love her is that she is brilliant beyond brilliant when it comes to the strategies and ways to communicate who you are and what you do, but she also has this equal way of being energetic and like who you are and affirmative and meditative. And so I really love her, because sometimes I feel like the business world can just feel extremely masculine, and it's a lot of like, do, do, do, do, do, and just like, spit this out and do this thing. And she is very much like, what's on your heart and who's, what's on their heart, and how do we actually connect those? So she is the one and only Hilary Hartling. She is amazing. If you've been listening to podcasts for over three years, you heard an episode from her already. I promise you, this is another amazing episode. So even if this is the second time you're listening to her, you, your mind will be blown. I adore her and you're gonna want to do the meditation that she has. I totally know it. I'm downloading it. So here she is, Hilary Hartling. Lesley Logan 2:15  All right, Be It babe. It's been a while since we've had today's epic guest, but I honestly look for any time that I can be in this woman's amazing spaces, because she's wonderful. She's amazing. She is a rock star in so many ways, and she's gonna blow your mind when it comes to branding. So Hilary Hartling, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Hilary Hartling 2:36  Oh my gosh. What a welcome. Thank you, Lesley. And yes, I'm happy to be on Be It Till You See It again, but I'm a brand and messaging strategist for the modern entrepreneur, everyone who is mission-driven, passion-fueled, and is excited about attracting the right fit clients to their business with the right positioning, messaging and offers. So that's what I do for entrepreneurs. Lesley Logan 3:00  Yeah and you do it so well, and you do it in a way that doesn't feel like cookie-cutter or not authentic. Like, I think when people think branding, you know, we talked about this the last time you were on, they think colors, logo.Hilary Hartling 3:13  It's true a lot of times. People, well, people just aren't, they don't have to know everything about marketing and branding, right? Like, that's why, you know, I exist as a branding expert. It's like they don't, they need to be educated about what's included, what's involved in branding your business, and the most out there thing for people to see first might be a logo, might be colors, or might even be like a tagline, right? So, but there's so much more that goes into it, and I do, I try to really infuse, find out from each individual business owner, whether it be like I'm doing a group program with my course, or I'm doing one on one, I always want to find out what the vision is for that business owner so we can translate that into a unique brand for them. Even if I'm working with a ton of photographers, right? They're all photographers. They're all going to have a very individual, unique brand, because that's the point of creating a brand. So it stands out.Lesley Logan 4:07  Yeah. And I think like, like when I think about being it till you see it, I feel like, the way you talk about branding, the way that you see it, it's almost, it is almost be it till you see it with your brand, because you're kind of figuring out, like, how do I want people to feel? How do I want them to, to, what do I want their experience to be, and the business that I'm creating that they haven't yet had, yet? Hilary Hartling 4:33  Yeah, I feel like my whole business as a brand and messaging strategist is I'm helping these business owners, be it, their brands be it so that they can articulate their most authentic selves, step into their personal power, build a brand that really, truly resonates with their ideal audience. So and it comes from my belief, too, that I think every brand has an energy to it, and every business owner has an energy. And that is what radiates out when you focus on harnessing that energy. That's when you captivate your audience. Lesley Logan 5:06  Yeah. And I so, okay, before we get like, ahead of ourselves, how did you get into this? In case people haven't listened like, I don't know, my God, three years ago, let's remind everyone your amazing journey. Hilary Hartling 5:18  Yeah. I mean, I really started my, the bulk of my career in corporate for a Fortune 50 company that a lot of people have heard of. It was at Disney. I worked for 15 years at Disney as an integrated marketing and synergy executive, but within that role, everything in my role at Disney sort of led me to what I'm doing now for entrepreneurs, it's really this idea of understanding a brand and what it takes to not only be consistent, but to continually inspire your audience, create fans, and keep them coming back for more. So anything that you could learn from like the Disney brand, you can apply that to your own small business. That's what's really cool. Lesley Logan 5:58  I mean, I think it's so true, because it's like, first of all, you know, getting the first customer is the hardest part. Like, getting someone to trust you enough to spend dollars with you is so difficult, but then you've got to also keep them coming back for more. And sometimes people get so obsessed with just continue to get new customers versus, like, inspire their current clients to still participate in the brand. I want to go into the energy a bit more, because I feel like people don't think of it like that. They think this is my business. These are my goals. This is what I'm here to do. And they don't take in to account their energy. And so how did you figure that out? What was that experience like when you discovered it's an energy? Hilary Hartling 6:41  Yeah, I mean, I've always been into energy, so there's that. But honestly, like, I call it the reciprocal energy flow, right? It's like the energy you put out is what you get back, and that leads to all the things, right? What you think about your brand, and what you believe in for your brand is what your audience is going to reflect back to you. So that's why it's good to define the kind of brand you want to share, what do you want it to be known for, and then really understand how to mirror your audience, right, so that you are understanding what they need, and you're meeting them where they're at, but that you don't, as a business owner, because sometimes, you know, it's up, up and down with, with businesses and entrepreneurship. We know this, but when you find yourself in that rut, how do you pull yourself out of it? Because that rut can lead to more rut if your negative energy is being put out there. So it's, it's like energy, to me, is everything, because energy is the feeling. Energy is the experience. You can't captivate or enchant or delight your audience unless you know what's going to make them perk up and pay attention, what's going to hit them in their heart center, right? Like, really tugging on those heartstrings. Like, if you watch Super Bowl commercials, like, I wasn't actually overly impressed this year, but.Lesley Logan 7:59  I skipped them. I figured the best ones would come forward. Hilary Hartling 8:02  The one, the ones that always get me is like the Clydesdales for Budweiser. And this year, it was like this little baby Clydesdale who was jealous of like the big, full grown ones who got to carry the cart with all of the Budweiser kegs. But there was a keg that fell off the back, and he's like, I'm gonna do it. And he jumped the fence and he rolled that sucker all the way to the destination. Was like, I did it. And it was like, it's just so cute and so fun. But anyways, anything that could tug on your heartstrings, that's an energy. You're deciding the energy you want to create with your brand, with your audience, and it's the energy that's going to pull people in, right? That's what's becoming magnetic for your audience. It's all about the energy. Like, like, I think everything is, but you won't find yourself in your flow unless you've decided to define what you want that energy to be for your brands. Lesley Logan 8:54  Yes and I love you highlighted, like, if you're in a rut, and that's energy you're putting out there, that's not really, that's just going to lead to more ruts, because, like, the attraction, how many of the clients do you really want that are also attracted to a rut?Hilary Hartling 9:09  Like, if you're going around saying every single day, like, well, this just isn't working for me, right? Well, then you're going to attract people who doesn't think your service works for them, and so they're not going to buy it.Lesley Logan 9:18  Right and then, and then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, because that's what you're surrounding with. Hilary Hartling 9:23  Yes. Lesley Logan 9:24  Oh my God, this is, I'm obsessed. Okay, so first of all, I think the other thing that I want to highlight what you said is like the energy that they want to feel, what's going to tug on their heartstrings, I find a lot of people, as they're trying to create what they want to be their brand, or maybe they're in it, I find they get really stuck on, what do the people want? What do the people need? I actually think that they know. I think deep down, they know. I think they're a little scared to admit it, because then what if they're wrong? Or, like, what if they now that they know, what do they do with this information? But how do we figure out, like, what's pulling on the heartstrings? Is it like a series of questions we ask, is it something about ourselves? Is it what our brand is doing? Because most people, they focus on here's my process. You book this call, then I do this with you, and then you buy this thing, and it's like that, that's great. You need a journey. But that's not what people are buying. They don't want the journey.Hilary Hartling 10:13  That's, I mean, it's, it's really, it is what Simon Sinek says. People don't buy what you do. They buy why you do it. The why becomes your brand story. The why becomes the why of your clients, too. It's focusing on, I've said this so many times with you and your audience, right? It's focusing on the benefits first, right? Not just the features or the process. That'll come, but the benefits, that's the thing that's like, what do you really, really want, right? And I I've done this comparison before, like, when I think back to my Disney days, I remember walking into these huge marketing meetings to kick off a new film that we're going to be working on. It's usually like a year out from release. And I remember, like, here's one example. We had the slew of sports movies for a long time. You know, Remember the Titans, and Miracle, and we walk into the one about The Rookie, which is Dennis Quaid, and he's the oldest baseball player to make the majors, and we sit down at the table, and it's a big joke at this time, because we've done so many movies, and they're like, okay, it's not a baseball movie. I'm like, okay, right? It's not. We have to remember this. It's not a baseball movie, no, it's a movie about second chances and never giving up on your dreams. Okay? It's not about the thing. It's about why people would care. Okay, that's what you need to focus on for your branding.Lesley Logan 11:35  Yeah, I love this. It's almost like you can't use what you do as part of the definition. Hilary Hartling 11:40  Right. That gets you, that gets you so far is like you have to be clear in your branding, right? A super big believer, and you need to clearly state what you do and who it's for, but that's just a positioning. That's not the inspirational part, that's not the why, that's not the what they take away from it. You have to think about the whole idea of what is keeping your ideal client up at night that they're so worried about that they're not getting right with that thing you can help with, and go from there. And a lot of times it does, it does help to start from a pain point, because if you just tell them the beautiful, amazing end result, they're not going to believe it, unless you relate with them on why they're struggling right now.Lesley Logan 12:20  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that means you have to be vulnerable. Hilary Hartling 12:25  Yes, yes. You know, there's, there's something, you know, I'm in the midst right now, I'm updating and evolving my course called Brand Polish Academy, and one thing I'm going to add that I'm very excited about is some AI prompts for people, because once you know your brand strategy, you can put that into chatGPT and it can spit you out so many amazing ideas for your brand. You have to make sure they're in your voice. You don't want to take anything just as it comes out as it spits out, but you can figure out so much once you know your brand strategy, you can plug that in to say, I'm training you to be my brand voice and my messaging and understanding my ideal clients. And I know these are their pain points, so keep all of that in mind when you tell me X, Y or Z, right? Lesley Logan 13:12  Yes. I mean, I love that you're going to add that in because it is such a thing. My team has actually built the Lesley bot, which is like, it's trained on 10 million of my words. So, like, people can literally ask, ask at any Pilates business question. It literally it's, first of all, she's uplifting. She validates you, she repeats what you said, she points out what's really great. And then she gives you things, and then questions. And people are like, I don't want to use it. And I'm like, I'm going to tell you right now. I'm amazed at what she is putting out. She spits out way more than I can. I couldn't do it as fast as she can, you know, and she's trained on me, so it's all my stuff. But also they've used, you know, the chatGPT and things that are out there to be like, okay, here's some written work by her. Here is who we're talking to. Here's what this is. And now we need to tell people about X, Y and Z, and then doing it. Like, first of all, I had some, some things like, like I didn't even tell them we're doing this because they heard me one time say, I'm never going to let you do that. I love to write, because I do. I love to write, but I will say they finally showed it to me, and it's kind of amazing, because it gets out sometimes we get in our own head, and especially talk about the rut and the energy. If your energy is nervous or scared or this has to work, and if it doesn't work, I'm like, my business is failing. That energy is not going to help you write and tug on the heartstring. It's actually in the way. And so you almost need to use.Hilary Hartling 14:30  The extra help, a little helping hand. I agree. And by the way, let's back up a second, everything you just said that you preface like, you know it knows this about me and this about, all of that that you just said, that it knows that you had to put in there to explain, to create this bot, that's your brand strategy. That's part of your brand strategy. It's knowing enough about your brand to be able to explain it to someone, whether it's an AI tool or it's someone you're hiring for your business, or it's someone on your team, it's the only way you can create and present a consistent brand. And honestly, consistency is one of the pieces that creates the magic for your brand, because I promise you, not everybody out there is being consistent. And when you can be, you show up for people in a whole new light. Lesley Logan 15:16  Yes, yes. And I mean, consistency is so hard in general, let's just take your branding out of it, just being consistent with your morning routines or consistent in your life, it's not easy, but it is actually proven that when you are consistent with anything, you actually get what you want out of it. Hilary Hartling 15:32  It's so true. I don't know why it's so hard. It just is. I mean, even with the Pilates practice, right? Lesley Logan 15:37  Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, people are like, I'm gonna come once a week, I'm like, that, that's great. You can never miss, and if you never miss, that is consistent. But, you know, more would be better. You know, like that would be consistent. But I think, like, people have a hard time with that. And so if people do what you say, and they're, and they're focused on the energy, and they're pulling the heartstrings, and they're being consistent, what is a reasonable timeline for them to know if it's working, what are the KPIs that they're using? Because it can't, to me, it can't be vanity metrics all the time. It can't just be like, oh, I got this many likes. Because if you're new to getting followers, you're not going to get a million likes on things like, you're just no, no one's going viral like that anymore, you know, unless it's like some dog video that's, you know, pushing, like, you know. So how do you do that because that, you got to keep the energy up and the belief up. So what do you think? Hilary Hartling 16:24  I mean, honestly, the biggest KPI is, are you booking clients? I mean, that's the biggest one, right? But also, you can look at things like, if you're creating a funnel, right, and you're introducing or inviting people into your brand, what's that first stop? What's that entry level thing? What's that free resource or lead magnet or low ticket offer. Are people buying that because you showing up saying, hey, I know you need this right now. So let me tell you how to do that for either this, only this much money, teeny bit, or let me give this to you for free, because I know this is on your mind right now. And if I relax your mind and you can make your shoulders go down about this whole topic, and you get some quick wins because I gave you this thing, then you're going to be more apt to come and find out more from me, from that brand, right? And so I think that is a very good tool, like, if your freebie is flying off the shelf, right? Whatever it might be off the digital shelf, even, then, that's a very good indicator. Now, there might be other things to tweak along the way, if then that's not converting into clients, but you always have the opportunity to, I think, first connect with your audience on a level that they care about. Because here's the other thing, you are the expert in what you do, right? But you could get caught up in your expertise and not necessarily say it the way your ideal client is going to understand right now, right? A lot of my ideal clients, they don't know that brand strategy is the solution. They don't even know that, right? And so you have to speak to them in the way they're talking about it, saying, like, gosh, I feel like my messaging is all over the place, or I don't really know how to talk about my business in a way that the right people get it. Like, what do I do about that? So some might think I need to hire a copywriter that could be a solve but a lot of times, people just haven't figured out the base foundation, solid brand strategy that leads to all the aligned messaging, aligned offers positioning that makes you stand out. And so it's a lot of education on my part too, right? It's like people just like we started at the beginning, people sometimes just think it's colors and logo. And it is not.Lesley Logan 18:38  Yeah. I appreciate you bringing, remind us like you have to know your business so well that you are an expert at what you do, or at least for who you help, you know, and you have to treat yourself as such, but also then you have to talk to people who aren't, not understanding that expertise. And it's really, really hard. An example is like a lot of Pilates teachers that I work with, they're like, I just want to teach advanced clients. I want to teach athletes, because they don'tknow how to move their body. And I'm like, so the journey of the people you'll work with don't know how to move their body, and so you can do that. And if you have connections to the NFL or the NBA in your town, by all means, go right ahead. They all need someone. But the reality is, is the most of us have to teach the public and the public in your area. And so there are people in your area who could become an advanced mover who don't know how to move their body yet. And so you cannot talk to them like people who move their body because they don't know that. They don't know that that's a solution to their problem. They don't that's the thing that's going to make them feel good. They don't know that that's the thing that will make them feel confident. And so people do talk in the wrong way, and then they go, no one's listening. And. Hilary Hartling 19:43  Yeah, I have a funny double-edged sword with my brand, where people love the fact that I have worked for Disney, and that grounds me as an expert in what I do, because I worked for a brand like that, but then that can also lead people to think, well, I can't approach her. Right? And so a lot about my brand is being very friendly and approachable and welcoming and inviting to see like I just did this, just a one week freebie last week, where I offered my list, and I think I did it maybe on Instagram, too. I said, just for a week, submit a question. I'm going to record a video response, just one branding question that you would like an answer to, and I will do a video response for you. And so I was recording video responses all week long. And people are like, how are you giving this away for free? I'm like, well, number one, it shows me exactly what my audience is thinking. So back to your point of like, how do you tug their heartstrings? It's knowing where they're at right now. And so every once in a while, getting in touch and doing a temperature check and asking, what's the thing that you would really like some help with right now? And all the questions were so, so different. Lesley Logan 20:51  Yeah. Also, brilliant everyone. You should steal that as a thing you can do is, you know, be like a freak you because you do find out what are they thinking about. You know.  Hilary Hartling 21:02  Yeah. That was my whole point. It's like market research, but also it's me connecting with my audience, too. Yeah. So when you stay in touch and you actually form these real relationships, maybe they're not going to book your service right now, but they're going to remember that, and they're going to come back when they really, really need your help.Lesley Logan 21:19  Yeah and that's the other hard part, right, of being a brand that is consistent, it's you have to be consistent, you have to make sure that they understand what you're there for, and stay top of mind, so when they're ready to pull the trigger they remember you.Hilary Hartling 21:33  Yeah. I mean, there are also other tactics, right? You can try to make them see that they need it now versus later. There's other things to do, but still, like, you still might get the, oh, this has been so fantastic. Let me go off and try this, or let me do this and I'll come back, you know, when I'm ready, or if I need, you know. So you'll never know where someone's at, but, and I've had people who I had a call with, you know, six months prior, and they come back and they're like, boom, I'm ready. Here's my money. Let's go. This is the time, right? Like, you just never know.Lesley Logan 22:04  Yeah, no, it's very true. And I think, like, thank you for sharing that, because we've had the same thing. You know, I worked in retail. I worked in high end accessories, and so of course, there'd be the people who came up, and obviously we made sales throughout the day that would be affordable prices on like, you know, $50 gifts, $100 gifts, like, that kind of a thing. But, you know, we really had to sell like, a $2,000 ring every once in a while, ideally every week. And there'll be people who will just come in and go, can I try that on? Oh, my God, I love this. And I would be like, oh, have you seen it before, because they're like about to buy, like, no, it's first time and I just really love it. And they'll just buy it. And there's other people who come and look at it for six months, and they're looking at it and they're putting it on, okay, and my birthday is in six months, and then they come back and they get it. And so it's like everyone is a little bit different, even in a brand that you're trying to attract. And so, you know, the patience that it takes, but also the belief in what you do. Do you have tools that you use to remind yourself why you do what you do? You know what I mean? Because, I'm like, people doesn't even like getting ruts and like, there are bad days. There's days where I'm like, is anyone listening, even though I have tons of evidence that we're doing a great job. There's just some days where you're just, I'm just getting hit over the head and getting a lot of rejection, so. Hilary Hartling 23:14  Well, that's just human, that's just human, and that's just the cyclical nature of business as well. But I think for me, it's always coming back to trusting my intuition and trusting myself, right, which is hard for some people, right? And it's, it's keeping the belief so, whether it be brand affirmations, right, just like you might do abundance affirmations or anything, it's, it's talking to yourself, in a way, and especially if you're having those negative thoughts, it's just like pulling those negative thoughts to the forefront, noticing them and reframing them so that you're not like stopping your energy flow like we were talking about earlier. But I always use intuition as sort of my own compass, and I think when you give yourself room and space to just listen, because there's so many times, especially with branding, where you're looking externally for the answers in terms of, I'm looking at this brand, of this competitor in my industry, and oh my gosh, why can't I come across that way? Or you're just looking for answers elsewhere, when a lot of times, if you just ask and you receive the guidance internally, in fact, you know what I just, I just created this week that your audience might love, is I created, for the first time, a meditation for my audience. It's a brand vision guided meditation. Lesley Logan 24:32  Yes, we're in, we want. Hilary Hartling 24:34  Yeah, anytime, so it's whether you're starting from scratch or you're an established business. It helps you with clarity. It helps you kind of step away from overthinking about your brand, so you're coming out of your head and into your heart, which is what we want from your brand, we want to be in the heart space, it helps you, like, envision the essence of your brand, how it feels, who it attracts, what makes it unique. But also, like giving you some clarity on your deeper purpose and that message you want to share. So I go through all seven chakras for your brand. In the meditation. It's a 20 minute meditation, and you just come away with whatever downloads you get. But you can do it as many times as you want, right? You might get something new every time. Lesley Logan 25:17  Oh, my God, we must link this. And this is amazing. Yes, I want that. And then also, I mean, I feel you need to do some brand affirmation cards. Like, I feel like you needed anything like a deck in you.Hilary Hartling 25:28  Yeah, well, you know what's funny is I used to do it when I like, I've gone back and forth on how I've done my online course. Sometimes I run it as a group program. And when I do that, I would put these brand affirmations. It's just like posts in our community Facebook group all the time. So I'm like, I should aggregate all those, because it's, it is, it's very helpful. And then it even, like clues you into a little bit of what you could focus on today for your brand kind of thing. Lesley Logan 25:52  Yes, I love that. I mean, my goodness, that could be its own lead magnet, or you could actually sell them as a deck you could draw. And it's like, this is what, you know, I just, I like a deck of any kind. Hilary Hartling 26:02  I do too. Lesley Logan 26:03  I just find them to be so fun. I don't even know what half the things mean. Currently, I drew a card from a deck, and it's a porcupine with lightning bolts and stars. And I'm like, unclear what I'm supposed to get from that, but I'm just gonna say you can, like, it have little things that can prick people, and you can be magical at the same time. I don't know what that card means, but, like.Hilary Hartling 26:20  Well, I would immediately look up the spiritual meaning of a porcupine. Lesley Logan 26:23  Okay, well, thank you for that tip. Yeah. It takes, as you, we've mentioned a couple times, it's the constant belief in yourself. You almost have to have a good healthy dose of narcissism, if there could be any kind of healthy narcissism, to remember that you're amazing. And since we are, most of us who are listening to this are not narcissists, you wouldn't be being it until you see it if you just think you are. So congratulations, you're not, if you're listening to this. But I think having some sort of reminder of who you are, why you do it, what you do, like we need those things for those bad days. Hilary Hartling 26:56  We do. We do. It's amazing because I even remember back to my first brand clarity in-person workshop that I did. And I I just found the workbook the other day, and I opened it up, and the first page, I actually put the song, I Believe, from The Wiz, which was the song that my theater company would sing every night before we went on to perform so that I believe in you, right? That's the main message of the whole song. But, like, it's a whole thing. But I put all the lyrics in there because I was like, this is so true. If you don't believe in your brand, why would someone else? Why would someone else? And you're putting your brand out into the world, and you're not like, asking people to love it, you're serving people. You're saying, I have this knowledge or expertise or product, whatever kind of business you have, and I know this helps you do this. It's worked for me. It's worked so for so many others. It can help you, too. If this is what you're struggling with, here it is, right? You never think about if you're in the grocery store. You don't yell at the grocery store because they're trying to upsell you at checkout with gum and candy. You're like, I might want some today, okay. Right? People sell to you all the time. You're on tons of email lists you don't even realize because you wanted the 20% off. Right? Like, it's, it's all sales. It's all business. People are used to that. People are used to you asking, people asking for the sale, because they would never imagine that if they expect value in return, that they wouldn't give you that reciprocal energy back, right? Lesley Logan 28:37  Yeah, I love that. You pointed out we don't get the grocery store. We just, like, we end up buying the stuff half the time. You know, we're and one of my old coaches, she was joking, she did this little, like, fitness challenge, and there was an add on that you could, like, it's called the bump everyone. There's a bump of the cart that you could add that on. And then they got to check out. I was like, well, here's a one time offer. And so she's like, okay, I'm gonna add that to cart. And then it's like, oh, well, if you got this, here's this other one time offer. And she got that, and at the end, she's like, I just want to pay like, I went from a $17 thing to paying you $217. I still wasn't angry about it. She was laughing. Because the reality is is, if you know exactly what your client wants, then first of all, you get to sell it to them, and you're not a manipulative asshole, because what you're giving them is what they wanted. It's going to solve the problem that they have, and you are the expert who can do that, and they get what they need. Otherwise someone else is going to sell them something shitty that you know because they didn't hear about you. They didn't hear that you existed. They don't hear what you have. And so you kind of owe it to them to not let the competitor who's not as good as you getting into their headspace. Hilary Hartling 29:43  That's so right, and that's where consistency comes into right? It's like your competitor might be, you know, 10 steps behind you, but they're selling out because they're showing up. So don't let the lack of that, I've been seeing all these Instagram accounts lately for like the introvert business, where you don't show your face, right? So it's all these Instagram feed posts where it's just like the backs of people's heads and or just like quotes and things, and that is like going gangbusters for whatever reason. I'm sure they're tapping into heartstrings all over the place, right? But it's just so interesting, because here's the thing, there's so many ways to do it. What you have to start with every time is understanding your business, your brand, so that no matter what strategy you want to employ for marketing or copywriting or website design, whatever it is, that it still feels like your brand for your audience, yeah.  Lesley Logan 30:37  And I think that's so key, like one of the things when we coach Pilates instructors, we're like, okay, who are you helping? Why do you want to help these people? How do you help them? I mean, there are people who don't sign up for our program because they can't get past that question. I just need more clients. I'm like, I'm going to tell you right now, there are 17 clients outside for you. You could get probably half of them if you can articulate how you can help them so you don't even have to care about it. You could just, if you could just articulate how you can help them, if that's how they want to be helped, they'll buy from you. You're holding yourself back by getting stuck and making it complicated. And it is complicated, but also, I think it's about being honest with ourselves. Why am I doing this? And you know, and I think some people might even feel maybe it's not enough to just want to help those people. Like, I feel like there's this pressure that we're all putting on these brands, and so we don't get these ideas off. I wanted to have you on, because I know we have so many listeners who are business owners or want to be business owners, and they do not get their business to the next step. Year after year, they're stuck in the same place because they won't just sit and answer those questions about that you've talked about in different ways that will help them identify so that they can be consistent. Hilary Hartling 31:45  Yeah. And the thing is, too is, like, it doesn't have to be perfect. I say this a lot too. It's like, don't wait for perfection, because it can't be perfect unless you put it out there to get feedback from your actual ideal clients, right? You can't tweak it unless, like, you've seen what resonates with them most. So you can't be scared to start either like it doesn't have to be perfect to start. You just have to be able to articulate some things about your business, what you do, who it's for, the benefit that they can take away from working with you, and maybe how you're different from other people in your industry. Lesley Logan 32:19  Yeah, I love that, because also, I find when people ask me what Pilates is I have a succinct answer, and I have teachers going, oh my God, I just love the way you describe it. I'm like, do you think that's how it came up the first time? No, it didn't. It was like, a fucking paragraph. And I was like, well, I gotta shorten that. You watch people's eyes glaze over, or, like, they start to look around the room, and you're like, I've lost them. That's, you know, I've got to figure out, like, how do I succinctly say who it is what I do and how I do it, so that if this person is interested, they stick around, and if they're not, neither of us are wasting our time. But to your point, you got to get something out there and try it out and say it out loud and get the feedback. Where people go, oh, it's like yoga, and it's like, oh, okay, I didn't explain it very well, because I explained it like yoga, so like that, you know. Hilary Hartling 32:59  Yeah, then you can perfect, that's, that's where the perfecting, meaning, the tweaking comes in, so that they understand even so you're more clear, and you can then make it more compelling for them as well.Lesley Logan 33:11  Okay, so I love you, and I just, I, you make, I mean, we've done so much greatness, because you make you want to, like, dig into my branding all the time. I'm just like, okay, let me. Hilary Hartling 33:20  It's so fun. Lesley Logan 33:21  Yeah, it's just really fun. What are you most excited about right now? Do you ever wonder, like, has everyone figured out branding? Are you? So what are you most excited about right now? And you say that the world needs you more than ever. What's going on the branding world? Hilary Hartling 33:32  I do think it's been shown over the last few years how valuable it is to not just run a business, but to build a brand, because it's brands that people fall in love with, follow, want to keep coming back to, and that's what you want to have a long lasting business. It means that you've articulated what you care about. Maybe there's shared values involved. People today really care about who they're buying from and consuming from, and so they want to know that you're someone that they trust and that you have some of the same beliefs or hopes or dreams. It matters, and your brand strategy expresses that about your brand. I just heard someone the other day mistakenly say something about, oh, I'm eating Ben and Jerry's, but I don't really like what they believe. I was like, wait, wait, have you actually gone to their website to see all the amazingness that they do for the social causes for their, and they went, and they're like, oh, they didn't know that. They had heard something and then mistakenly thought, oh, but I really shouldn't be eating Ben and Jerry I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Anyways. Lesley Logan 34:43  Everyone, keep eating the Ben and Jerry's. They're, they're, you know, saving the world. Hilary Hartling 34:47  Keep, keep eating the Ben and Jerry's. Yeah, no, I think branding is more necessary than ever. And I will say this too, because I do have clients who come back to me again and again. So there's, you know, one phase of brand strategy. Which is developing your entire brand strategy, and then it's coming back as you're evolving and growing. So I just had a husband and wife couple come back, and I've worked with their two brands separately, and now they're kind of combining into one, and they wanted to come up with who is our niche audience now, because we feel like we've spread ourselves a little too thin. What are our offers? Because we want to be known for the offers we're creating, and we want a signature one too. So that's what I did with them. We said, here's exactly who your audience is, and now because of that, we know exactly what they need. And here is the first thing they need, here's what it's called, here's how we're positioning it, here's how we're pricing it. Here's the promise for what they get. And we did that with three different offers, and they launched within 30 days and made $45,000. So because they got so clear that they understood exactly how to sell it.Lesley Logan 35:52  Yeah, can you just say it's almost like you're like, speeding up the process, you know, and it can feel like you're slowing down to take some time to go through this and get the clarity, but also then it just speeds up the process. Because once you're so clear, people know that you're for them or that you're not. Hilary Hartling 36:07  That's right. Lesley Logan 36:07  You know, I heard from another Hilary, who's a dear friend of mine, that, if you've hated in the human design. So right now, like, obviously, if you're into astrology, we're now, you know, in Aquarius and all that stuff, and that's its own unique energy about people. But if you believe in human design, we've been in the generator type of person for a really long time, which is very capitalistic. It's very like, you know. Hilary Hartling 36:28  I'm a generator. Lesley Logan 36:29  Yeah, I'm a generator, too. And I was like, I don't think it's a bad thing. I think we kick ass. But anyways. Hilary Hartling 36:33  No, we work hard. Lesley Logan 36:34  We work hard, we do things. But apparently, like, we're going into a projector type world. And I was interested in that, because one projector that I know, I felt like they just project their shit onto you, and so she's, she's a projector, and she doesn't do that. She actually is able to zero in and like, oh, this is what you're telling me, this is what I'm seeing, and hones it in really well. But what she said is, in a projector world, it becomes not individualistic in that we don't help people. We're not in a community, but that individual brands, individual businesses, are going to be the thing that people are focusing on, wanting to spend their time on. We're seeing this right now as people are like, oh, I'm not. I'm boycotting these brands over here because they don't represent my values. And so then finding smaller businesses who do. And so just the way you just talked about things. And this whole conversation where the world is turning, now more than ever, is the opportunity for all of us to shine, to not be in the shadows of these big brands who are making things either super cheap or were super for the masses, but for like, your individual thing, your idea, can actually work and, and we talked about this in the first episode. You all have to go back and listen to it, but even if you don't have a business, you have a brand, because how people think about you, what they feel when they're with you, all of that stuff is in there. And so I just really adore how you make branding feel like it's like sexy and I want to do it. Hilary Hartling 37:55  I actually think brand, I mean, I'm biased, but I do think branding is sexy, and it's you getting to really choose, right? It's your choice. It's your brand. What do you want to build? What? What do you want to leave your mark as? Right? That it's and it's not just mark as a logo. It's the legacy, it's the impression, it's what lasts, you know, forever. I mean, there's all different kinds of examples of branding and brands and stuff, but what's cool about it is it's meant to be different. So you get to decide how you want to be different and make sure that that's what resonates with your audience. Because it's not all about you either, right? It comes from you. It starts with you. You're defining it, you're shaping it, but you're shaping it for your audience. And so being really clear on that as well, because you said there's so many people who get stuck and stopped there, which is why, why there's been 500,000 ideal client worksheets and, right, identify your target audience and it seems like, okay, I know that, but when people really get down to it, they need to redefine it every time for themselves to say, like, no, this is really who I know I serve. It's just like the two clients who came back to me, you know, they served so many different kinds of people, but they decided, no, who we serve best are coaches, and that's what they went with, right, and being so specific helps the brand become more relevant, more resonant and more compelling for people to understand it, get it and buy it. Yeah.Lesley Logan 39:25  Yeah, oh my gosh. Okay, Hilary, well, you know, another amazing conversation with you. We're gonna take a brief break, even though I could talk to you forever and find out where people can find you, follow you, meditate with you. Where do you hang out, Hilary? Where is this meditation? Where can they, like, you know, work with you? Hilary Hartling 39:44  I would say two places. First, my website. So it's hilaryhartling.com H-I-L-A-R-Y-H-A-R-T-L-I-N-G dot com. If you go to the announcement bar on my home page, you click and you download the free meditation. The other places I'm always hanging out is Instagram, and it's the same. It's @HilaryHartling, no spaces, no dots, no nothing. And the meditation is also linked in my bio on Instagram, so you can go grab it for free right now. Lesley Logan 40:11  I think that's beautiful, as are you. Thank you so much. Before I let you go, you've given us a lot to think about, but bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?Hilary Hartling 40:23  Figure out what excites you and follow it. So when you can wake up excited, you are in your flow. When you're in your flow, you not only attract what you want, but you become a magnet for the best people, opportunities and growth. Lesley Logan 40:38  Yeah, yes. Oh my God, that's so succinct and so wonderful and absolutely useful in everything. Ah, guys, how are you gonna use these tips in your life? Share this with a friend who wants to start something. Share this with a friend who has a business. You, you, this could literally be the conversation they need to hear to actually reach the people they want to reach. And Daniel Pink said, if what you do solves a person's problem and takes them out of pain, you have a moral obligation to sell it to them, moral obligation, and the only way that they can hear about you is if you, if you've gone through the things that Hilary is talking about. And so, let her help you. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 41:15  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. 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Lesley Logan kicks off this FYF with a shocking CPR training stat and ends on a high note with inspiring wins, including an epic push-up record by a grandma and major business milestones from Agency member Jeanne Cho. Lesley also shares her own big win about staying ahead of the game with her latest flashcard project. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why women are less likely to receive CPR in public emergencies.How a 59-year-old grandma shattered a world push-up record.Celebrating agency member Jeanne Cho's milestone moment.A behind-the-scenes look at launching Lesley's final flashcard deck.How planning ahead turned a massive project into a major win.Episode References/Links:DonnaJean Wilde on ABC News - https://beitpod.com/donnajeanwilde If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:·        Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g·        Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/·        Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/·        Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/·        Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ·        Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/ Follow Us on Social Media:·        Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/·        The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g·        Facebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilates·        LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/·        The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:05  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hey, Be It babe, welcome to your fabulous Friday, right? Oh, fabulous. No, that's not the right FYF. So it's Fuck Yeah Friday. It's just gonna stay that way. And this is where we celebrate a lot of wins, and I love celebrating wins so make sure you're sending them in. We also talk about things that are inspiring, because there's a lot of crap out there, and then sometimes I bring up some crap, but then, like, we educate ourselves. So here's the deal. This one might not actually make you feel good, but we're gonna have, we have two things. I'm not gonna end on some bad note, but so a study found that out of 20 dummies used in a CPR certification course, only one had breast overlays, meaning participants couldn't actually practice on a dummy that accurately portrayed an average woman. So he also found that during a cardiac emergency, bystanders are less likely to provide women with CPR because they wouldn't feel comfortable performing the procedure and touching their breast. When women are blatantly overlooked in tests and trainings like these and others, crash test dummies or defibrillator pad trainings, it is, not only proves to be unjust, it can quite literally mean life or death. So ladies we've got to know this. We need to know we're less likely to receive CPR. And I don't want to say that to scare you. That's not what I'm trying to do here. What I am also trying to do is educate us, right? Because I have done CPR classes like every other year, and I can tell you right now, never in my life it has one of my dummies had breasts on it, and something that I embarrassingly, am aware of as, like, I have a very hard time with the Heimlich maneuver. I have a very hard time finding people's belly buttons. I'm like, oh my God, we were at this restaurant and someone's choking. I'm like, I noticed she's choking at the table. I was about to give I'm like, I know that she doesn't have time, like, and I know how to do it, and I also know that I have the hardest time finding the belly button. And as I got up from the chair and screamed she's choking, a doctor right next door, got up and did the whole thing, and I was thank God for medically trained people. But I just want to say, even as a woman with breast, we need to know these things, so go get trained. We should start demanding these things. You know, if we start doing that, maybe this can change how things are. Lesley Logan 2:41  Okay, so, but because I don't want us to be angry all fucking time because it's annoying. Here we go. This is gonna be so cool. So a grandma does 1575 push ups in one hour, her second world record after planking for four and a half hours. So go grandma. Yep, she racks up a second world record, 1575 push ups. That is insane. She is a grandmother of 12 people, you guys. Here's her name, DonnaJean Wilde, 59, from Alberta, Canada. I mean, this happened last September, but girl, you are impressive. I don't feel the need to have to ever do this. But I actually love that you did it. And I think the more we have records like this from women like you, the more young girls and those 12 grandkids, and the friends of those 12 grandkids can see like, wow, look at all the things that I can do. Look how unstoppable you are. So freaking cool, right? So cool. So anyways, thanks, grandma. Thanks. Thanks, DonnaJean Wilde. Lesley Logan 3:42  Okay, so now let's do your wins. All right. This one is from Jeanne Cho she is an Agency member, and I'm actually super stoked for her. She's a part of our new agency as well, and she's been using the Lesley bot, and it's really fun to see how this bot, who's been trained on 10 millions of my words, has been helping this amazing person out. So, Jeanne, we got two wins to share of yours today. So you'll be our wins today. A client who loudly complained and quit with price increase last spring just came back. I mean, yeah, that's what happens. Because they're like, I went to other places and the cheaper ones aren't as good as you. So, go Jeanne. Jeanne hired a sub to teach when I travel and for the hours I don't want to work, feels like progress. Fuck yeah. Completely booked for the next month. Way to go. Event Marketing Company reached out about a well paid opportunity to provide Pilates at a running event with huge brand sponsors. Even if I don't get it, I'm thankful for opportunities that come my way. Yes, I love that Jeanne, thanks for like sharing that we can be grateful for just having the opportunity come the way, even if it doesn't pan out, I think that's beautiful. Old clients continue to find their way back, and new clients are walking in. Two new clients this week, in fact, and those hours replace my injured two time a week, client who's out for three months, one new client has expressed uplifting appreciation that can't help but make me feel awesome. She had two diastasis repair surgeries and had been declined another studio. She felt the difference after one session and is excited to work together. That is so beautiful. I mean, I hate that she was declined for another studio, but honestly, I also don't mind if a teacher was, didn't feel comfortable that they didn't sell her on something that wasn't going to work for her. So way that I'm glad that she found you. The second new client is a referral. They are college roommates currently, and shows that even students who can't afford Pilates can afford Pilates, and the initial client even took a winter break off, but dutifully came back. Jeanne, look at all these wins. I love it. I think wins can be these little things that just keep adding up, and we have to look for these wins. It can be as simple as someone came back after complaining a month, a year ago. Look at that. It's a win. That's a testament to, like, what you did. Lesley Logan 5:44  Okay, now, one of my wins. So this is a couple months old, but I haven't been able to tell you guys yet, the Accessory Flashcard project, my final deck in the series, was on time. Everything was on time. The entire team. I mean, obviously we should be by now, but, like, we were on time for everything. And the presale went so amazing, and people were so excited. And I mean, their excitement was really what made the whole thing so fun. And the deck is really cute as well. Yes, by now, we should know what we're doing, and we should be on time with things, but the reality is is like, there's always life that lifes in there. And so what I can say is we planned ahead. We put time, block things the way we wanted to, and it actually all did work out like it was supposed to. And I'm currently filming the tutorials for it, and we're going to be done a month in advance, because my assistant and I have been really, really working on like, how do we stay two months ahead? So if I ever get sick or something ever pops up, we can always say yes to things we want to do. So I'm so proud. The win, this is not a small win, of course, the accessory flashcard deck going to presale and going to print, it will be finished when we actually get to hit ship on those things in the summer. But it's not one of those, like, small wins. It's not an esoteric win. It's obviously like a big project win. But what I'm celebrating right now is it's really easy to procrastinate, to postpone, to delay, it's really easy to start a project not finish. No one would have cared, really, if we're like, it's gonna be another six months, everyone. But we worked a year ago at planning this out, and then we made adjustments on this project based on the last rollout. And I think if you can always reflect, refine and continue, then even if we start a new project that has nothing to do with the flashcards, I know the team, and I know how long things take, and we can take that information to make sure the next thing goes off without a hitch. And that, to me, is the win. Like you learn your lessons from the experiences you have. In fact, we actually all learn more from a failure or from a mistake than we do from a success. So I'm just so proud of this team. I'm so proud of all of you. We couldn't do this whole thing without all of you. So just thank you so much. Lesley Logan 7:49  Okay, here's your mantra for your weekend, and then you can go. Rest is my medicine, peace is my birthright. Rest is my medicine, peace is my birthright. Rest is my medicine, peace is my birthright. Babe, you're amazing. Thank you so much for being a listener, and thank you for sending your wins, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 8:10  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Lesley and Brad break down the mindset shifts that helped them go from feeling stuck to living with purpose—drawing from the conversation with transformational coach Kevin Carton. They dive into the four levels of consciousness, the surprising truths about vision and identity, and the importance of curiosity when stepping into who you're meant to be. Tune in for a conversation about intentional living and the inner work it takes to grow into your next level. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How the four levels of consciousness reveal what's really keeping you stuckHow curiosity can help you reconnect with your soul's purpose. Why many people unintentionally avoid going after what they desire. How daily gratitude shifts your mindset and reinforces identity.Episode References/Links:OPC UK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukeLevate Mentorship Program - https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comOPC Perks - opc.me/perksKevin Carton Website - https://kevincarton.com/Kevin Carton Instagram - https://instagram.com/kevinfcartonScience and Spirituality - https://beitpod.com/scienceandspiritualitypodMetacognition Meditation - https://beitpod.com/metacognitionmeditationBuy Yourself the F*cking Lilies by Tara Schuster – https://a.co/d/81moWWDEverything is Tuberculosis by John Green - https://a.co/d/0YpCvguJohn Green on The Chris Haye Podcast - https://beitpod.com/chrishaye If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/ Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  I am that thing. I have that thing already. I am an entrepreneur. I am a super mom. I am a race car driver. I am a whatever it is, the thing that you want, you know, in your life, instead of when that happens for me, you act as if you are it now, already. That is the definition of be it till you see it. Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:59  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the profound convo I have with Kevin Carton in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now and go back and listen to that one or you can listen to this one and listen to that one. He's such a sweetheart. I mean that in like, the not.Brad Crowell 1:19  Really brilliant guy.Lesley Logan 1:20  Brilliant and patient and kind and profound is a good word for him. It really, really is. I learned so much and we actually got to have him in the Agency group as well, elaborating more on what we talked about. So Agency members, you can check out that goodness. Brad Crowell 1:35  Yeah, we're actually going to be including it in the Agency curriculum pretty soon, so stay tuned for that it's gonna be great. Lesley Logan 1:41  Yeah, if you wanna know what Agency is here let's stay tuned, Brad's going to talk about Accelerator in seconds. Today is May 15th and it's National Notebook Day. National Notebook Day is celebrated on the third Thursday of May, and this year it falls on May 15th. It's a holiday that encourages people to record their thoughts, events and information in a notebook. It's especially important to have a notebook or journal if you're the type of person whose mind goes to so many places at once. One of the many reasons why keeping track of varieties is beneficial is that it helps you focus the mind. People will often revisit their journal entries when they need inspiration or ideas. And I just thought, focus the mind, we, I feel like it's a Kevin Carton thing, but also, because I can't choose one, I have ADHD, and I like a lot of things. And so also, Today is National Senior Fraud Awareness Day. So go check that out. Essentially, it means what it means. Make sure you're seeing your people in your life. Brad Crowell 2:29  Educate your parents. Educate your parents.Lesley Logan 2:30  You guys don't deal, don't don't touch the toll link that they're sending you. Brad Crowell 2:35  Yeah, the toll link isn't real. Lesley Logan 2:37  They're never gonna text you. They don't know your number. They don't know your license plate. Brad Crowell 2:40  We just had someone try to hack your Instagram account. They sent us a spam email that said your post has been. Lesley Logan 2:45  Oh, yeah, copy, copyright infringement. And I told the team. I was like, guys, that's my face and it's my word.Brad Crowell 2:51  Yeah and there was no music. So what copyright infringement could there be? But it was a fraud link. So they're getting real sneaky. Lesley Logan 2:57  Yeah, yeah, really. Because, I mean, I sent to the team, because I was like, there's something wrong here. But no, just assholes. And then also, it's Tuberculosis Day, TB Day. There's actually a couple different holidays to have to do with this. And the reason I'm bringing it up right now is, actually listen to Chris Hayes do an interview. Was it with John Green or with a guy who talked about John Green? Brad Crowell 3:16  No, I think it was the author. Lesley Logan 3:18  Oh, with John Green. Okay, so here's the, John Green wrote a book, Everything is Tuberculosis. By the way, have you ever looked at tuberculosis the word? It's tubular something, something sclerosis. And so everyone like it's.Brad Crowell 3:30  Tubular sclerosis? Lesley Logan 3:32  No, it's got, like, there's like, extra S's and O's, at any rate, you can see why we call it TB. It's really important that you guys actually understand what's going on in the world of fucking things around, is that.Brad Crowell 3:46  Wait, what? In the world of.Lesley Logan 3:49  They're fucking things up like. Brad Crowell 3:50  Yeah, they're fucking things up. They're fucking around.Lesley Logan 3:51  In the world where they fuck around, we're about to find out what that means, which is, according to John Green, we didn't just go back a couple steps, we fell down the steps. Brad Crowell 3:52  We like fell down the ladders. Lesley Logan 3:54  And like, everything is TB is just that, like, TB actually can't kill people, does kill people. There are drug resistant versions of this, and when they study TB, it helps them understand every other disease and illness out there. And so I highly recommend reading Everything is Tuberculosis. And if you're like me and you have a hard time focusing on a book. Go listen to the episode with John Green on Chris Hayes' podcast. No sponsorship here. I would love to have Chris Hayes on or John Green. I don't know what the be it till you see it angle would be, except just tell me how bad we really are. Anyways, but that it's TV day as well. Lesley Logan 4:36  Okay, we're headed to the UK. We have two stops. It's our first time in a couple of years. Space is super limited. Legitimately, guys, there is 18 spots in one space and 20 in another. And that might sound like a lot to you, but it's not a lot of people. So you want to snag your spot for that. The deal is amazing, opc.me/uk we're going on a summer tour this summer and if you want to make sure that you are in on the deets, which will be announced any day now, then you want to go to opc.me/events, we make sure those people always hear about it.Brad Crowell 5:04  And then I'll be spending the weekend by myself because. Lesley Logan 5:08  I'm spending the weekend by myself. You're with friends. Brad Crowell 5:11  Lesley is going to be teaching the Cadillac Workshop Weekend for eLevate, round five, which is very intense. It's literally 24 hours on Zoom over three days.Lesley Logan 5:21  That's overwhelm. Those of you who are seeing eLevate, it's only 12 hours for you. Brad Crowell 5:25  Yeah, it's only, it's only half of that for participants, but she's doing two rounds. But we love these weekends, eLevate is really a fun, amazing program, and I can tell you, as someone who watches it all happen from the side, how epic it is, because people actually come together and nerd out like deep, deep, deep dive on Pilates over nine months, and what they get out of this program is literally life changing in every element of their life. It's not just about the Pilates, but this weekend is really, really cool. So if you're ever considering deeper dive into Pilates and you're a teacher, that's the one requirement, if you're already a teacher, go to lesleylogan.co/elevate that's L-E-S-L-E-Y logan dot co slash elevate for more information, when you get started, there you and I can talk, and we'll talk through the whole thing. If you are a teacher and you're taking clients at all, I want you to join me for a free webinar. It's a Profitable Pilates webinar. We're going to talk about money. Okay, we're gonna talk about money. We're talking about clients marketing. We're talking about mindset. We're gonna dig in, and we're gonna get nerdy on how do you apply these things to what you're doing to change the trajectory, okay, if you're like, I feel like I'm spinning my wheels. I'm feeling very stuck. I can't seem to get new clients. I hate trying to get new clients. I hate telling people how much I charge. If any of these things resonate with you, come to this webinar. It's called the Growth Accelerator, prfit.biz/accelerator. It's totally free. We're gonna dig in, and then you can there's Q&A element to it as well. So that's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. It's totally free. And then finally, Cambodia. Lesley Logan 7:07  Cambodia. Come and have Pilates for free with us. This is for you. If you just love Pilates, if you're pie curious, if you want to go travel the world and you want someone to curate it for you, this retreat is for you. It's an amazing experience. You're in the village with us. You stay at our house. We do five Pilates classes. We do breath work, we do some manifestation workshop, not just the woo, woo type. We actually get down and dirty on like, how do you actually make sure that your schedule allows you to live the life that you want to live, which includes taking care of you and making yourself a priority. And we tour temples, and we do a water village, and we do a lotus run, and run, like a lotus tour, and then we also eat amazing food. So I want you to come.Brad Crowell 7:41  Yeah, it's gonna be amazing. It's like our favorite place to be, honestly, with everything that's insane going on right now in the world, in life.Lesley Logan 7:49  I can't wait to be out of all of it for a week. Brad Crowell 7:52  It's like an opportunity to set yourself up for some peace, relaxation, a little bit of adventure, exploration. It's going to be a great reprieve. It's going to be a retreat and on purpose. So come join us for it. You deserve it. It's your time. Lesley Logan 8:07  Yeah, you're going to vote whenever it's time to vote. You're going to protest whenever it's time to protest, and you're going to take a week with us in Cambodia to recharge and refresh and get back out there. Brad Crowell 8:16  crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com.Lesley Logan 8:21  I got halfway through filling this out and like. Brad Crowell 8:23  Before we get any further, we got an audience question here.Lesley Logan 8:26  Right, babe. Brad Crowell 8:27  Right, so Fit Prom Karen is asking on YouTube, hey, what's the difference between the black nylon and leather straps? How do they hold up or move for circular movement? And she was talking about on the Reformer. Lesley Logan 8:40  Yeah, so, okay, there's so many different types of Reformers out there, and there are Reformers that use, like, ropes and pulleys, and they usually have loops, and those loops can be cloth, and then, because of COVID, they've turned into this, like, vinyl type of a thing, which is not super comfortable. It's a little thick, but it's easy to wipe down. And then there's also the leather straps that also on wheels, and they also have handles, and then they have extension straps to make the loops. So there's a huge difference. And as far as the circular movement, I actually think that if you work with the leather straps and handles. Brad Crowell 9:11  Sorry, where are these straps? I'm trying to envision this because there's, like, multiple straps on a Reformer. We're not talking about the long straps, are we?Lesley Logan 9:18  We're talking about the long straps. Brad Crowell 9:19  The long straps, okay, so we're not talking about the things that hang over the tail.Lesley Logan 9:22  You know, when we're on a tour, yeah, not the one, well, those are extension straps, but yes. Brad Crowell 9:22  Extension straps, okay, so that's the difference.Lesley Logan 9:22  You know when we're on tour and some of them I have to push the risers down because they use ropes. Okay, so the particular device that it's on will turn around so when they make circles, the ropes stay in this little groove thing, and it circles like it turns with it. And the leather straps don't have that. They're just on a wheel, but you can still circle. You can still circle. What I would say is actually a lot, a lot of people that I work with who use the ropes. I highly encourage you to order the neoprene handles. They usually are on your Cadillac, or you can order them on their own and clip it on to your straps, because you are going to get even more out of those circles every single exercise if you have a handle in your hand, because the way your hand reacts to the handle will tell me if your arms are connected to your back. So I can look at a room of people. Brad Crowell 9:49  Which does not happen if it's just a loop. Lesley Logan 10:18  Well, it can, but you have to, you have to be aware, and it's really hard because you don't have anything visually to show you that your hand is turned at an angle. So if you're watching on YouTube, it's really easy for your hand to be at a 45 degree angle, versus perfectly holding a bowl of soup or perfectly ready to shake someone's hand. Brad Crowell 10:38  Is that what we're doing, we're holding soup? Lesley Logan 10:39  Usually I tell people to hold a margarita. So at any rate, the pinky side of your hand needs to be attached to the handle at all times. And when you're using those loops, it's kind of touching it. So you think it's working, but then your hand is actually not the right angle to help you to connect your muscles from your back. And a lot of people end up using the top of their shoulders or the front of their shoulders, or their biceps and their elbows, and they're not using their back. And then the other thing that those loops can encourage without you noticing it is really easy for your wrist to bend, and so then you're holding this loop with your bent, wrist is bent, and now you're not getting any of the benefits. So loops are great for the feet. There's nothing wrong with it, and I actually am not knocking anything like, we have affiliate links to Balanced Body and to Contrology, so if you prefer the ropes, you can have them. I just highly encourage you to get handles and use handles in your hands and loops on your feet. Brad Crowell 11:23  Yeah, if you're interested in that link, go to opc.me/perks P-E-R-K-S opc.me/perks and scroll down, you'll find the links to all the equipment that we recommend. So stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into this fantastic conversation that Lesley had with Kevin Carton, and he's going to share some fancy metaphysical stuff with you all. We'll talk to you soon. Brad Crowell 11:48  All right, everybody, welcome back. Let's dig into this convo with Kevin Carton. He's a multifaceted individual dedicated to helping others achieve their potential. Certified by the Brave Thinking Institute, he operates as an inspirational speaker, teacher and transformational life coach. That's what the Brave Thinking Institute is, they certify life coaches, and it's not like a, you know, $250 weekend certification y'all this is way bigger deal than that. With significant experience, he focuses on empowering individuals to identify their life's purpose, overcome personal obstacles and build self-belief through various methods, including his widely popular podcast, Science and Spirituality, co-hosted with his brother Chris Carton, Science and Spirituality, they are, like, you know, a million plus downloads. It's a big pod. It's a really cool thing. I definitely recommend you check that out. Science and Spirituality and his brother Chris, two of them are enjoyable to listen to, just very knowledgeable. So.Lesley Logan 12:43  Also, can you say it like, how cute, Chris and Kevin Carton, like, it's just like. Brad Crowell 12:45  Chris and Kevin Carton. Lesley Logan 12:46  You know, I love when people make sure alliteration happened. It just all flows together. So many things to love about what he said. But I really enjoyed that he talked about he believes that our soul's purpose is really what our heart calls for the most to live the most alive life that we possibly can. And he, also about focusing on becoming more alive, more aware, more happy, more loving. He also said that if you're struggling to identify your purpose, it's because you have to get curious. And it made me just think, you know, when you're a kid, you're like, asking all these questions. You're like, so curious. Why is the sky blue? Why is this? Why is it? And because parents are fucking exhausted and overworked and underpaid, and they are stressed out to the ninth, especially the parents today, because why wouldn't you be, it's really easy to kind of like, crush that curiosity and. Brad Crowell 13:31  I mean even, not, also inadvertently, it could just be like, here's an iPad I can't deal with you right now.Lesley Logan 13:36  It's all, I actually would say it's all inadvertently. But and then at school, the curiosity is not what actually is you're graded on. It's like, on how well you memorized. And so I think that, like, you start as a kid as very curious, and then you go through life and you're just forced to, like, memorize what's right and what's wrong. And so you don't actually cultivate a curious brain. I actually was really grateful, because Pilates made me get really curious. Because, well, not not just Pilates in general, I will say very specifically, Pilates with Vintage, with Jay, with Sandy and Karen. Like, there was not a one answer to a question. It was like, well, I don't know, how's it feel? And they would want you to get curious, like they. Brad Crowell 13:43  You have to dig in and connect with yourself to actually draw a conclusion. Lesley Logan 14:15  Was really hard for me. I would just go, just tell me what it is, right. I just want to get it right. So I think that's why I can really attract this perfectionist, but also why I love what we do. But I just thought it was really great, like, be more curious, you know. And then he also said, we're given dreams, and it's up to us to accept and become aware of them like we're given them. And that made me just think of Big Magic and how, like, ideas want to be born and things want to happen. And if we're not there to, like, pick what's being left for us, they're gonna go. But if we can be aware of them, we get to actually enjoy them, and we get to have this gift that we've been given. What did you love? Brad Crowell 14:49  He talks about the four levels of consciousness. This is effectively applied to how each of us lives, our lives, how we experience our lives. So there's four levels of consciousness, and I'm gonna briefly run through with them all. So level one is victimhood, two is responsibility, three is called flow, and then four is oneness. Okay? Now, what does that actually mean? Level one, victimhood, life is happening to me, at me, you know, against my wishes. Why do these things happen to me? I'm blaming everybody except for myself, right? It's considered the lowest state of consciousness, and it's actually it diminishes your life. So sometimes what we default to, and the thing is, it's easy to stay in the victimhood. Lesley Logan 15:33  I think we all get annoyed by those people. Like, once you're not that person, you're like, I gotta get away. Brad Crowell 15:37  Yeah, so level two responsibility, life is happening by me. You're taking responsibility for your actions, for your thoughts, for your responses. You're recognizing your own ability to create desired outcomes. And this is like, probably, I think, most people live life more often than not, in levels two and three, kind of transitioning between two and three, and then four. We tap into four occasionally, but then we shift around like that was a good question that you had for him. But life is happening by me is level two, responsibility on making decisions, on purpose. Level three. Life is happening through me. This is the flow state, a sense of connection to a larger life force, letting go of excessive control, experiencing a natural flow of things, where things work out more easily. You know, I think we've all experienced the flow state, right? We're in the zone, as like to call it. I know when I was working in the office, my entire goal, like when I worked for somebody else, my entire goal was once a day, to forget what time it was, because I was so in the zone, right? Put my headphones on, drown out the rest of the world. Get focused and allow myself to be in that state. And honestly, when that happens, I would be happy about it. At the end of it I'd be like, yes, I got so much work done today. When I didn't get into the flow state, I will be frustrated about my day. And be like, oh, I feel like I didn't do anything today, right? So life is happening through me, and then finally, oneness, life is happening as me. This is definitely more of like a mystical experience, no separation between yourself and the entirety of the universe. And you know, you can experience this through meditation, connection with others, with the nation, but also, actually, he also suggested that oneness, or life is happening as me, the most common experience of this is an orgasm where you're experiencing it with somebody else. I thought it was interesting to think of that that way. And it's not something that you're in that state for the longest periods of time, but you can tap into that occasionally here and there. I just found these really interesting. Lesley Logan 17:44  These are the four things that he dug into more deeply in his talk, right? Brad Crowell 17:48  Yeah, he, we also went through these levels of consciousness and, in fact, also his tool at the end of the episode, where he's like, hey, this is my gift to you. We actually did that exercise together on in the webinar. So if you're looking for more on that, come join us in Agency. You know, also go check out the things that he's doing. Lesley Logan 18:07  You can check out his pod. I mean, like. Brad Crowell 18:08  Yeah or check out the pod, yeah. Lesley Logan 18:10  This is I just really liked him. I subscribed to the pod because I was like, I think I want to keep listening to this person. I really like what they're saying. And I think also I got a lot of those stages, and it's like, oh, that last one, I kind of just thought that's what the shamans do in the white, you know, on the top of the hill, and they leave the world behind. But I liked he's, like, no this is like, you could just tap into it. You could just be, like, in this moment, we could be part of the world again. So I think that's really cool. Brad Crowell 18:32  Yep, yeah, awesome. Well stick around. We'll be right back, because we have some really powerful Be It Action Items shared by Kevin Carton. We'll be right back after this. Stick around. Brad Crowell 18:41  Welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Kevin Carton? He talked about the power of a clear vision. He defines a vision as a written out version of the life you love to live, a written out version of the life you love to live. And I thought was really cool, because we have this idea for ourselves, but how often do we actually put it down on paper so we can see it, read it, hold it. We won't forget it, because we wrote it down. He said be detailed, be clear, be specific. Use emotion and just be big. And he said the main thing that people and he and I had a really interesting conversation about this, one of the things that I used to do, and I still catch myself doing occasionally, is saying to myself, I want this thing for me, whatever this thing might be. And then I would say, it would be really nice if this thing happened for me or to me, ironically, it's like victimhood level one. It would be really nice if this thing happened for me, right? That to me is a cop out. Cop out in two ways. One, I might not actually be actively pursuing this thing that I want to happen for me. And two, if the thing doesn't happen, then it's okay. It didn't happen to me, for me, right? This is really interesting, because I used to intentionally not get my hopes up, right? Because if it never happened for me, then I'd be really disappointed, or it'd be failing, or I'd be let down. And I just found, like what he said, when you're writing out your vision, the mistake that most people make is taking that approach. It'd be great for me if this happened right, and then, and then, what's the next generation of that is we say, oh no, no, not if it happens, when it happens right? And he's saying, not even that but there's one step further, I am that thing. I have that thing already. I am an entrepreneur. I am a super mom. I am a race car driver. I am a whatever it is, the thing that you want, you know, in your life, instead of when that happens for me, you act as if you are it now already. That is the definition of be it till you see it. Lesley Logan 20:58  Oh, yeah. My, my client, I was like, hey, baby, I can only see you at eight o'clock or whatever I gave her. And I really only did it for her, because I would never do it for anyone. And she said yes. And I was like, oh, okay. And I said well, I'm really surprised you accepted this. She's like, well, I am a healthy person, and a healthy person would work out at this hour. And I was like, oh. Brad Crowell 21:17  Great for her. Lesley Logan 21:18  I'm practicing this I am thing and helping me filter my decisions. And I think it's, you know, it takes some time, be kind to yourself, like I just saw her again today, and she's like, still working out the I ams and I haves, but you can do it.Brad Crowell 21:32  Good. Good for her. That's awesome. I thought that was super powerful. What about you? Lesley Logan 21:38  I love that you know about gratitude. Gratitude is a powerful practice for being it till you see it. You know what, gratitude, I think it gets tossed around a lot. It's like, do this, but actually, do you really do it? Do you have a gratitude practice, really? And I'm gonna. Brad Crowell 21:42  What is it? What does the gratitude practice look like? Lesley Logan 21:49  Well, I will give you a perfect example from someone else. So the book is called Buy Yourself the Fucking Lilies, or tulips, or something like that. And I think her name is Tara. I would love her on the pod. I would obviously need to learn her name, but it's from five years ago, so it's really, really great. And she, in her third chapter was every single day, write down 10 things you're grateful for. Brad Crowell 22:07  Yeah, you're right. Buy Yourself the Fucking Lilies by Tara Schuster. Lesley Logan 22:09  Tara Schuster, okay, she's just committed to it. So anyways, I think a lot of people do it at night. And I will just say, everyone, I actually, in the middle of the day, typically have a moment where, like this. Brad Crowell 22:18  We were just talking about this. Lesley Logan 22:20  I start the day feeling fucking amazing, and then somewhere in the middle of the day, after all the onslaught of all the things that are going great but not going great, the chaos and then the fucking news widget that tells me what else we're fucking killing around here, I just find myself like, what are we doing? And so I was like, I'm gonna try this thing, and I open up my reMarkable tablet, and I have my schedule of the day on my reMarkable tablet, and if you just scroll, like, swipe, it's a journal place, and it's not enough to do like, journal entry, really. So I just list 10 gratitudes. And literally, just go, one, I'm grateful that I have the time to do this. Two, I'm grateful. And you just keep going, and what you find is like, by the end, when you get to 10, like to find 10 things to be grateful for in a day, especially when it feels like it fucking sucks, changes mine all the way around. And it really helps you get back to being the person you want to be, the person you believe you are, the I am, the I have and so. Brad Crowell 23:17  I actually think, so that's a cool practice. Another thing you can use is the five minute journal. Lesley Logan 23:22  You can. Brad Crowell 23:23  Yeah and that one you're writing it into a journal, it already has the prompts right in front of you. Lesley Logan 23:27  I can't really read my own writing, so I just do it on the reMarkable and hoping they translate it if it wants to. But we talked about like, how my therapist is really helpful at helping me remember, like, gratitude and judgment can't live in the same space. If you are feeling like, pissed, this isn't working and this isn't working, that's the judgment zone. And then you can start doing gratitudes, and the gratitude pushes the judgment out of the way. He also mentioned a gift.Brad Crowell 23:47  Oh, his gift. This is the thing that we did together, the metacognition meditation.Lesley Logan 23:51  So it's a 23 minute guided meditation, and it's designed to help individuals notice their thoughts, connect with their spiritual being, and gain clarity over their purpose and desires. You guys, this gift is less than 2% of your day. So we're talking about 1.5% of your day. So go to beitpod.com/metacognitionmeditation, beitpod.com/metacognitionmeditation. I'm not spelling that out. I think it spells the way it sounds. Thank you, Kevin, I learned so much from you. I can't wait to stalk you in the best way, a little bit more, and learn so much from you and your brother. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 24:27  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 24:28  Thank you so much for listening to this today. We're so appreciative to have you. Can you believe? First of all, it's the middle of May. Second of all, this podcast is at episode 524 because of you. Because of you, we get guests like Kevin Carton who has a million downloads on his podcast because you listen to this one. So keep downloading the episodes. It is helpful for us to get big, amazing guests that can help you be it till you see it.Brad Crowell 24:49  And share it with somebody new. Lesley Logan 24:51  Yes. Brad Crowell 24:51  Pick one person right now. Share this episode to one person right now. Lesley Logan 24:52  Yes. And if you also leave a review that, too, helps this podcast out. see you. None of that costs you any money and you got a free meditation. Thank you so much. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 25:06  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 25:07  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Lesley Logan and transformational coach Kevin Carton dive into how science and spirituality work together to help you live a more aligned and vibrant life. They explore why your heart holds the key to uncovering your true purpose, how small shifts in awareness can create major transformations, and how gratitude can rewire your reality. Get ready to feel inspired to take your next bold step forward. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why your soul's purpose is as unique as your thumbprint.How to connect science and spirituality to create your dream life.The importance of curiosity when you feel unclear about your goals.The Double Slit Experiment and why observation shapes reality.How writing a present-tense vision statement can accelerate your growth.The four levels of consciousness and how to shift from victim to creator.How gratitude operates at three powerful levels to rewire your brain and life.Episode References/Links:Kevin Carton Website - https://www.kevincarton.comKevin Carton Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kevinfcartonScience and Spirituality Podcast - https://beitpod.com/scienceandspiritualitypodMetacognition Meditation - https://beitpod.com/metacognitionmeditationDr. Quantum Double Slit Experiment - https://youtu.be/NvzSLByrw4QBig Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert - https://a.co/d/dMYmp4yMan's Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl - https://a.co/d/6PEUoagGuest Bio:As an inspirational speaker, teacher, and transformational life coach certified by the Brave Thinking Institute, Kevin Carton empowers people to discover and live their soul's purpose. With over a decade of experience, Kevin has helped hundreds of people breakthrough limitations, rewire their subconscious mind and trust themselves more deeply, so they can take the bold steps to turn their dream into a reality. He has spoken on stages in front of thousands of people sharing his “old soul” wisdom, which led to him being described as a young Bob Proctor. He shares weekly insights alongside his brother Chris Carton on their podcast, Science & Spirituality, which has over 1.3 million downloads and listeners in 113 countries around the world. When he's not serving others in his coaching business, Kevin loves going on date nights with his wife / soulmate Vivianne, snowboarding in the mountains in the winter, and spending time with his cat Autumn in their home near Denver, Colorado. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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We all have a unique thumbprint that we can identify ourselves across the eight plus billion people, completely unique. I also believe that we all have a unique purpose in life, and that we're here to fulfill it. Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:56  Okay, Be It babe. We are gonna have a little bit of science, a little bit of spirituality, and yes, they go together. And holy moly, am I blown away. One of, it's just I have things that I want to put on repeat. There's things I want to go research. There's a meditation I'm going to go do, like, this, I'm fired up. And I have to say today, before this interview happened, I had call after call. Meeting after meeting. Demand after demand. I was like, oh, I gotta put my podcasting hat on, and I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm so glad I did, because my whole perspective of what I'm here to do has changed in like a moment, in an instant, and I believe that that's what's gonna happen for you in this podcast. So here is our guest, Kevin Carton. Lesley Logan 1:35  All right, Be It babe. This is gonna be so fun, because I've already been chatting with our guest before I hit record here, and it's just so fun. It's an easy conversation, and someone who really cares about who you are and how you operate in this world. And so Kevin Carton, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Kevin Carton 1:50  I'd be happy to. First off, thank you for having me on your podcast. I'm thrilled to be here. And I love your show. Clearly, love your audience because of the focus of your show. So I'm excited to share. So, myself, as you shared, I'm Kevin Carton. I'm a transformational life coach, and I like to call myself as well, a spiritual teacher, although my technical certification is as a transformational life coach, but I help people in living their dreams. It's really as simple as that, but there's so much more depth than that goes to because I really like to take the spiritual approach, or the soul's approach, the perspective of being a soul in this human experience. And so it's a different approach than, like, just trying to create something new in your life. But I go into the deeper depths of like, why? Well, why? Why do you want whatever it is that you want, and what is that going to give you? What are you giving to the world for that? And ultimately, I love to focus on our soul's purpose. I personally believe that we all have a soul's purpose as unique as our thumbprint. We all have a unique thumbprint that we can identify ourselves across the eight plus billion people, completely unique. I also believe that we all have a unique purpose in life, and that we're here to fulfill it.Lesley Logan 2:55  I so believe that. I think what a lot of people who listen to this show are all kind of figuring out, like, what is my purpose? I think that they can get overwhelmed by that question. They can feel like, you have to know an answer, and you're, you feel ashamed if you don't know an answer. Simon Sinek's like, it starts with why. And I remember coaching people like, I don't know, I just don't feel the pain and and they're being told like, your why should make you cry. And it's like, should it, though? Is it that emotional? How do we get past it? So I guess I have two questions I want to go with. One, how do you become a transformational life coach? Can anyone just say that they are? And two, what is a soul's purpose? How do we figure that out? These are two big questions, I think.Kevin Carton 3:30  They are. I mean, I've been doing this for a while, so I can answer both of those, actually, quite briefly. First, how I, you know, anyone becomes a transformational life coach? There's many different routes, and there are many different perspectives on what you can or the training you go through to actually call yourself a transformational life coach, or a life coach in general. The path I don't recommend, and this is not the path I took, is taking an online certification that costs $250. There are those that are out there and could be helpful in terms of a coaching modality like you can learn some skills, but I believe, if you're calling yourself a transformational life coach, that there is some deeper depth that you've carved out in your own life, your own experience, that you can give to others and share with others, but in a more reliable way, that it's not just happenstance or your own experience, but there are certain principles that you follow, that you share those principles, and if someone works with those principles, then it could work for them too. Because, at heart, I'm actually a scientist. That's like the beginning of my story. I first chose my career path, at first, was to begin my doctorate in pharmacy. Long story short, I did not end up continuing to get my doctorate, because three and a half years in or so, I started to work in the industry as an intern, and I hated it. I felt like my soul was being crushed. Because, honestly, I really went into that career path because I want to help people, and when I saw that what we were doing really wasn't really helping, it was more of just masking symptoms, not really a treating the underlying cause, I felt like there was no purpose for me there anymore. So it was a very big, I call it my quarter life crisis, but that ultimately led me to needing help myself. So it was many different ways this came about that I won't get into, different, like, synchronicities happening in my life, but I stumbled upon a mentor who has been my mentor since. So for over 10 years now, I've been working with this woman, and she's a transformational life coach. Her name is Mary Morrissey, but I sought her help because I was in such a deep, dark place in my life, like dipping in and out of depression, feeling so lost that I needed guidance, I needed support. So from that journey, and it was within like one year, from working with her, investing and coaching with her, that I started to uncover what really was here for me and my purpose and what I really wanted to do to help people, like, truly. And for how much her work helped me, I felt so inspired that I wanted to do the same. So kind of a story of turning your mess into your message, right? So that's what guided me toward this path of being a transformational life coach. And I'm also really grateful and thrilled that my mentor actually runs a whole institute that I believe is actually like, one of the world's best in terms of training life coaches, so. Lesley Logan 6:07  I love that you brought that up about what you don't recommend people do as a path. And also you went into, like, how long you went through, and you're obviously still working with her, and then also to then train, because my industry is also not really regulated, and I don't think the life coaching industry is also like, there's not like a third party, exactly, and I do think that there are reasons why some statewide or tests should be done, because I just think that anyone can call themselves some of these things, and if they're really passionate, that they can hoodwink people. And so I actually don't bring on a ton of life coaches onto this podcast, because I want to make sure that there's a way that I can vet them and research them, and I can look into what they say they're trained in. And I saw yours, and I was like, oh, this is legitimate, and this person actually practices what they preach. So it's the same thing. When people are like, oh, I want a Pilates instructor over here. I'm like, here's the deal. There's not really, like, a one directory you can go to and anyone can actually call themselves a Pilates instructor. They don't even have to take a course. They can watch it on Instagram. They can watch my YouTube videos. It's all there. They can buy the equipment. They can insure the studio. They can insure a studio, and never, ever have to show a certification of any kind. So, so it's really important that people know that there is valid ways, and I really appreciate you sharing that. Okay, so I also resonate because I went to college for like, a reason, and I was like, I'm gonna do this thing. And I remember sitting on an airplane, very vividly, and I remember going, I don't even see myself doing that anymore. And I felt like, oh my God, I'm in college. I'm paying all this money. I can't just also quit. So what am I gonna do? What is my thing that I'm gonna do? And so it's really overwhelming when you're in your early 20s and you have all this pressure, because it costs so much to start to even shift. So I think it's really incredible that you had the crisis and you found the shift. So is that how you found your soul's purpose? Is like, what? And then can we all find ours?Kevin Carton 7:55  Absolutely. Yeah, so it's actually, it's a great bridge into that, that second question to answer that, as I mentioned, I believe it's also a brief, can be a brief answer, pretty straightforward, that our soul's purpose is really what our heart calls for the most. That's what I believe our purpose is. Because, you know, purpose has this definition or this paradigm around it, that it has to be something that involves contributing to the world or contributing in some way that's like a career, a work, a job, whatever it is, like we're doing something. I personally believe our purpose here is actually to live the most alive life that we possibly can. And as you know, as I mentioned just before, I'm a scientist, I take the scientific perspective, and this, I know is going to go really wide out for people, but I really believe it's, it's helpful that if you look back into, like, the creation of this whole universe, our entire life and existence, and all that we know the scientific perspective is that it was The Big Bang, right? Even that, in the spiritual perspective, it pretty much, any major religion, speaks about there was this like moment that creation just began, right, from like one point, like one God, right? It's a common denominator of that, common thought. But it's the same thing with with the scientific perspective, was one infinite, it has to be small point of matter that scientists have discovered that's was the beginning of our universe, sounds like one energy, one life, one source, one one something, right? And boom, it blew apart. And then ever since then, for 13 plus billion years, it's becoming more and more complex and evolving to greater and greater experiences of itself that we call life. We are part of life. We're alive. We have breath. We didn't do anything to deserve the breath in our lungs or the heartbeat in our chest. It's a gift that we're given. And so I personally believe that our purpose here for any different way you can cut it up, is that we're here to become more alive, more aware, more happy, more joyful, more loving, and then fill in the blank. And it just happens to be sometimes that our work involves that.Lesley Logan 9:59  Mm. I like that you said that it, we often think that the purpose I have to do is with things for others, like you mentioned, it's more important that, like, we are living our lives. And I think that that's true. I think that the people that we're attracted to, there's this magnet around them because they're living their life. And we're like, looking at that. We're like, that sparkly, shiny, you know, it looks like the grass looks greener over there. And it might be because they're actually just living their life. And a lot of us get so consumed with, well, if I do X for me, what are other people gonna think? And I think, is that like the sole purpose, like kryptonite is like thinking, what other people are gonna think about the thing we're doing for ourselves to live. Kevin Carton 10:35  Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. There's a lot of paradigms that have to be shifted in our current society and current culture of humanity that it's too much focused on, like, oh, what are other people going to think, that we shut down our own aliveness? And ultimately, I don't believe that that's the purpose of life itself, anyway. And so it's flawed in some way. I don't think it's entirely negative to have some idea and concern of what other people are going to think, because we are all connected. There is, again, I believe this one life source energy, we call it different labels and names, but it's within everyone, too. So we want to care about others as well, but not too much. There's a fine line. There's a middle path of that. Lesley Logan 11:14  Yeah, I think you're right, because a narcissist would not think about anyone ever. So that's one extreme, and then someone else would be like, trying to people-please on the other extreme, and that's never gonna work. And so there is a place in the middle where it's like a temp check of is what I'm doing gonna be good in this world and, and is it my purpose? Is it from me or am I doing this for others?Kevin Carton 11:34  Exactly. Spot on. Yeah, that's why I started with that. Like, what is purpose to me? It's us, our own individual selves, becoming more alive. But again, yeah, it does connect with others. We don't want to, like, step on others in, in pursuing our purpose, because then what's the point? Lesley Logan 11:49  Right. Because we want to, I to me, I'm like, how do I bring people in? How do I bring them along? How do we include all of them and none of it is easy, and I think that that's the hard part, right? Doing the work to transform your life isn't, isn't easy, it's not a checkbox. Kevin Carton 12:07  Not at all. Lesley Logan 12:08  Okay, so you are, you bring science and, to spirituality. I found that very fascinating, because I feel like there's several different types of spirituality, and that they're so woo. We're on a different universe, and I can't really go there. I'm a one woo kind of girl, so I like my crystals, like my meditation. I definitely use some Palo Santo. But like, you know, we're, we gotta, we gotta stay on this planet, too. How did you combine the two? Because I feel like, I think it's cool that they live together. I just didn't realize that there was a Venn diagram where they overlapped. Kevin Carton 12:38  Well, very much so. In fact, honestly, some of the points in teaching principles I share, it's often like one and the same that the science and the spirituality, they say the exact same thing. It's just for how it's been in our society and humanity for so long. It's just been so separate. But now it really sparked my interest when I started to study quantum physics, because spiritual teachers for ages, millennia, would teach about if you believe, I mean, it's literally about your podcast, be it til you see it, right? Another way of saying it, if you believe it, then you can achieve it. In essence, you have it in your mind. It's possible in life. And there's a way in which you can create that. The scientific perspective of that now in quantum physics, have you ever heard of or seen the double slit experiment?Lesley Logan 13:22  No, I don't think so, but I'm excited to learn. Kevin Carton 13:25  I'd highly recommend checking it out. And there's a great YouTube video that describes it in very simple terms, because it's quite in depth. I haven't even understood it to the degree of the quantum physicist and how they studied it, because it's still mind boggling. But there's a great YouTube video by Dr Quantum on YouTube and literally, just type in Dr. Quantum Double Slit Experiment, you'll find it's a five minute video. You should understand really, really great. But the basic idea of it is that the scientists, they believe that you know for the longest time, the perspective on our universe is that it's material, meaning that it's energy that we can interact with, we can measure. It's very solid, like, literally the computer where I'm using to record this, or my desk, like, it's very solid. We can touch it, right? So all of these different things are just made up of electrons, protons and neutrons, all put together in just different formations. That's the periodic table as we know it. It's literally every element that we know that makes up the visible universe. However, if you break it up enough and take electrons, or photons, which is the tiny, tiny bit, it's the negative charge in an atom of any, any atom in the world or in the universe, take that electron, if you fire it into these like slits, in essence, like these two slits in this like metal sheet, then it creates, like a pattern on the back wall, like, where those electrons, like, went through those slits. So that's the basic idea that they, they looked at that because when you have solid pieces of matter and you shoot them through those two slits, it creates that reflection on the back of two slits of bands, right? Because solid matter went through it. But, if it's a wave of potential or wave of energy, let's say that those double slits were in water. If there was just a wave, like a ripple effect of water that goes through those two slits, it creates a very different result on the measuring wall, because the waves go through the slits, but then there's then two waves that come out of it, and they interact with each other, and they cause what's called an interference pattern. So I know I'm getting quite detailed, but it's important. So the craziest thing happened though, that what they thought would happen with electrons is that they would show up as the physical matter, that it was like the two bands, the two slits, right? It did not. It showed up as an interference pattern, meaning that the electron, which we have thought of for so long as just so material, so real, it's actually just potential in energy, meaning that literally everything that makes up the universe of electrons, also protons, neutrons, they are actually going in and out of states of existence. So the whole point being, why I'm sharing this, and this is what really sparked for me. This is way back 2014 when I actually first found this video and learned about the double slit experiment and the science behind this. It said the because the additional, one, final additional piece they added to this experiment was that the scientists took a measuring device to see which slit or how those electrons went through those double slits to make the interference pattern. Because they're like, what's going on? We think these things are solid pieces of matter, and when they put the measuring device there, the electrons went back to becoming actual matter. So it was inescapable, the conclusion, which was that the act of observing, in essence, being consciously aware, focusing on whatever it is that you're focusing on, makes it real. And if you're not focusing on it, in other words, you're not measuring that electron. It behaves like potential, like there's not solid.Lesley Logan 16:56  Oh, my God, that's so crazy. That's so, that is so crazy, because it's like we always hear that what you can track is what you would attract, what you measure is what grows. That's insane. Kevin Carton 17:06  This is why. Lesley Logan 17:07  That's really crazy. That is the woo with the science like that all. Kevin Carton 17:10  Exactly. Let me share one final thing, because I know I, I'm like, very well, self-aware, and I'm like, I shared a lot more, like, technical terms and all, but. Lesley Logan 17:18  We're gonna transcribe this whole thing and let people Google. Yeah. Kevin Carton 17:21  Okay, yeah, please. That video is so helpful because I even noticed I find some difficulty explaining it as clearly as possible. But here's my favorite quote from Einstein. Albert. Einstein even said this. This is, I think, a couple of decades before this Double Slit Experiment actually came out. So this is just a theory at the time, but now it's proven. He was just walking with a friend one night, and he's famous for saying, I wonder if we're not looking at the moon right now, if we're facing away from it, is the moon actually there right now? Is it actually in existence? It's like the classic philosophical saying, or the question, like, if a tree falls in the woods and no one's around to hear it, does it actually make a sound? And to this point, you know, this Double Slit Experiment is basically proving that, actually, no, it's not there until you view it, your consciousness is focused on it. And I'll end this off by saying, just to make it even more tangible and actionable to someone listening, the reason I bring this up is so powerful as of an example, is that we could use that in an everyday basis, with our life, with a dream, a vision, what we would love to create, even if we have no idea how it's going to happen, where there's no circumstance around us that shows evidence as if possible. It is possible because you can see it in your mind. It's the ability to focus, to concentrate, to dream up anything that you would love. And honestly, I think that's exactly what you mean in this whole podcast, this topic of the whole title, and the theme of this podcast is Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 18:45  Yeah, okay. I love this because I actually just heard of someone doing a manifestation where they went into the future and they saw what they wanted to happen, and they believed that it happened, and then they came back to the past, and all these different things were happening that would make them doubt what they saw in the future. But they stuck with no, we believe that. We saw that. It's going to come to an existence, and it happened, right, which feels a little magical. But also I believe that, because I've there are times when I've been so clear on what I want that it actually happens. And so where I think people get stuck is they don't know what they want. Kevin Carton 19:19  Agreed. Yes. Lesley Logan 19:22  Like, they can't actually be specific about what it is that they want. And I find when I goal set 10 years ago, 15 years ago, I could be very specific about what I wanted. And now, as I get older, and I was like, I've achieved a lot of things and different stuff, sometimes it's hard to know what you want and then believe that, oh, I want that. But is that exactly what I want? Like, we start to doubt ourselves. So like, how do you help people who have no idea what to want?Kevin Carton 19:50  It's a great question, and I appreciate your, just, transparency in your own experience now, because it's not a linear process. If you've achieved certain dreams and goals in your life already, doesn't mean that there's not going to be some challenge in discovering or achieving next, right? But my go to principle or tool for that in discovery is to get curious. The reason why I say that is because I personally believe that our true heart's desire, our true dream, our true purpose, whatever you want to call it, it is given to us by life itself, by this power you can call God, source, spirit, the universe, this energy, this life force, whatever you want to call it, we're alive. And so I believe we're given visions, given dreams. In fact, another great teacher and life coach, Les Brown, if you ever heard of him, he often says this in his speeches, that we're given dreams and it's up to us to accept and actually, first off, actually become aware of what those dreams are that are given to us, but then to actually accept and be bold and courageous to go for it. So the first tool I offer, usually, is just curiosity, because it's more of a listening in, rather than trying to figure out what is your purpose, so that it's more of a conversation, a dialog and exploration, rather than trying to make it happen or write it out and decide, because then it gets too intellectual. It's not connected to your heart. And that's really where the true desires come from. It's not in the mind, it's in the, it's in the body, it's in the heart. Lesley Logan 21:14  Yeah, yeah. Oh, I love that. I love what you quoted Les Brown, because have you read the book Big Magic?Kevin Carton 21:21  No, I haven't, but I'm familiar with it. Lesley Logan 21:23  Okay, a great book, and it's, I think, really great for the creatives who listen. Because I coach a lot of people on their business, and they're like, okay, I started to get this going, and now we're gonna do this. And I'm like, so here's the thing, you can, you can do whatever you want, but I'm gonna tell you what I know is that if you test what is making you happy in your livelihood right now, before it's ready, you will have to make decisions that they're going to be compressed or pressured, because you need to make the money before it's ready, right? And so the Big Magic book by Elizabeth Gilbert, the idea is she actually did not quit teaching, even when she sold Eat, Pray, Love. When she sold the movie, she still was teaching in a college. She did not quit teaching, that consistent income, until she knew that her creativity on its own could fund the life that she had without putting pressures. Because a lot of times people go, okay, I'm gonna make my art may be my paycheck, but then you start to change the art so that it's what sells versus what's in your heart, right? And so when you are talking about being curious and figuring out what that is, it's, it's kind of like there's a patience to it, and we can't, we can't put that pressure on it too soon before it's ready. But she also talks about, in that book, is that ideas want to be born, and they come to you, and if you don't act on them, they will go to someone else, and that's why two people across the planet can come up with the same idea at the same time and work on it, and one person takes their time and quits, and then it's like, I had that idea, yeah, but it left (inaudible). Kevin Carton 22:52  Exactly. Lesley Logan 22:52  Yeah. It wanted to be born. Okay, so you're just full of so much knowledge and something that really attracted me when I was looking at what you talk about a lot, you have a couple things that I'm wondering, if you want to, if you have time, which one you want to talk about more, the power of a clear vision, or the four levels of consciousness. Which one is on your heart to share? Kevin Carton 22:53  Oh, I mean, both are equally powerful, right?Lesley Logan 23:08  Depends on how quick you are. Kevin Carton 23:16  Yeah, no, let's get to both, actually, because the first is very straightforward, very easy to just piggyback off of everything we've already talked about. A vision in my definition of it, and working with it with my clients, is a vision statement that's a written out version of the life you'd love to live that is detailed, specific, clear, with emotion and just big. You know, what you would really love, not limited by current circumstance. And when you write it out in that way, and I mean present tense, not I will, or I'm going to, I am, and fill in the blank, you know, I'm so grateful, I'm so happy, I'm so proud and and I have this business. I've written this book because once we get clear and we actually write it out, it becomes more of a declaration, then for us to become, you know, it's a great tool to actually being it until you see it, because as we write out our dreams, we then can come back to it again and again. Because how often, you know, life goes on and we have responsibilities and other things going on in life that take our attention away, and then we forget about the big dream, and it's a month later, it's like, wait a minute, I was really on fire for that for a few days or a week, what happened to it? The tool of the vision statement, is really powerful to just to recheck in. So that's my brief blurb about it, and it's incredible.Lesley Logan 24:29  I love that, and I agree on the I am statements, I think that they're extremely powerful. And I think the more we say them out loud and hear ourselves say them out loud, that's really powerful, too. And I think you have to say it several times, because it changes the more you say it. That's really great. I also like your interpretation of like, how to write down your vision statement. I think that that's really fun. That's going to be a homework assignment for me. Kevin Carton 24:51  Yeah, try it out. It's fun. Lesley Logan 24:52  Okay. The other one was the four levels of consciousness. What's, what are those?Kevin Carton 24:56  So, four levels. First is that it's all in the perspective of how is life showing up for me, or how am I experiencing life? So the first and lowest level of consciousness, which is victimhood, is life is happening to me. I'm at effect and I blame others. I blame the economy, I blame the government, I blame my ex, I blame my parents, I blame all except for myself. It's like life is happening to me, and I'm not the problem everything else is, and it's such a low state of consciousness because we're not actually connected with the truth that we have the power within to determine what meaning we take on for our life or what circumstance mean to us. Yeah, that's well studied in psychology. That's not just like some fun thing to say. It's actually well researched, supported in many peer-reviewed journals, that our perception creates the meaning that we experience in life. It's not the actual event. One great, quick book to dive deeper into that topic, Man's Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl. Incredibly powerful, so moving, and his story, you know, is, just for anyone who has not read it or heard of it, he was a refugee from Nazi Germany. He was in a concentration camp. He survived. But there was one moment he had which basically created the rest of his work for the rest of his life. One moment where basically, they, he was in such terrible conditions that the one last thing he had, which was like a gold wedding band, which the Nazis just didn't take away at that time, until, like they found it months later, they finally demanded that from him. His first instinct was like to hate them, to get angry. But he found this place within himself, which was a pause between the actual circumstance and then his response and his choice of how he was going to place meaning on that exact circumstance, probably the most difficult thing that anyone can face, right? And that place, actually, that place he found within himself created his whole work, which is called the logos therapy. And so it's, dig in, well study that. Again, it's our own choice. So it's a choice to stay in victimhood, which ultimately will just diminish our life over time, which no one wants, obviously, deep down. So at the first level of consciousness, we want to move out of. To bridge to the second level of consciousness, it's simple, we take responsibility for how we respond, for our own thoughts, our own actions, our own words. And once you take responsibility, you increase your consciousness to the awareness, or that phase of awareness called the, that life is happening by me. And now you're not just sitting on the sidelines. You're engaged. You recognize that your thoughts, your actions, have meaning and create differences in the world, and so you start to create what you want. However, that is still in a degree limited, because we're still only focused on our own personal self. And it comes back to the point we mentioned earlier, that, you know, we're living in this world with eight plus billion other humans and many, many other life forms on this planet. So it's not just for one of us. It's really for all. What we're doing is in benefit for all as well. And that moves us up to the third level of consciousness, which is life is happening through me. It's not by me anymore, but now, life is happening through me, meaning I have a part to play in this grand play called life, because I'm alive, and so I don't have just a separateness between me and the other person or me and that flower or me and the sun. It's all one life happening, and it's this, again, a symphony. And so as we step into that kind of flow, it literally becomes like a flow, like a river. And so things start to work out more easily when we recognize that we're connected with this source of energy, life, power that we can tap into. And then magic starts to happen, because the move from the by me phase to the through me phase of life is we let go of control, which is a difficult one.Lesley Logan 28:47  Yeah, I'm a teacher who studies the art of control, that's a Pilates (inaudible) actually was called contrology. Yes, it's called the art of control. It's a study of control, right? And so every Pilates instructor, or people often who are like, attracted to Pilates is like, this perfectionist, like, control, like, type A person. And the hilariousness is, is that the more I studied the way that Joe Pilates intended it was about curiosity and just figuring out, like, what can I do, what is possible? So it's really funny, because I came into it like, Oh, I gotta get perfect at it, and then I'm perfect and I got it. And then the more I did it, the more I realize, oh, actually, every day is a different day in my body. And yes, I need to control my body, but I need to let go of what the controlling the scenario that's happening today, because my body is different today than tomorrow, right? Kevin Carton 29:30  Yeah, yeah, my word shifts which it's, it's spot on, I'm thrilled you gave that example, because that's so profound and probably helpful for someone listening, who's into Pilates, right? Because it is, it seems like a lot about control, but I think would you, basically, what I picked up from your, what your words were, is that, yes, it's about controlling, like your body, but it's more about the responsibility about your body. Of like, yes, I'm taking responsibility of my actions in that, but it's letting go of control of like, yeah, what's going on in the day? Maybe my body feels different than from yesterday to today. So that's where you let go of control, but the responsibility piece is there as well. That's how I see it. Lesley Logan 30:07  I love this. This is great. I feel like we can do Pilates and consciousness workshops. Kevin Carton 30:13  Nice. That would be awesome. Lesley Logan 30:17  Amazing, amazing. Okay, and so is there one more level? Like after. Kevin Carton 30:21  Yeah, this one's a fun one, because it's more of experiences that you can have. I personally don't make this as like a goal or an aspiration to live in this phase of awareness. I set my goal to live in the third phase of awareness, the through me phase. But the fourth and final phase of awareness is as me, where life is now happening, as me, where there's actually no separation between me and this entirety of the universe. This is the mystic experience that most people speak about, like mystics, gurus, sages, messiahs, that there's this oneness and there's this deep knowing. And I like to say it's an experience, because most people don't want to set that as like a life goal. That's more of like those who want to, like, become a monk and renounce all worldly desires. And funny enough, for two weeks of my life, I actually had that desire, but I let it go pretty quickly.Lesley Logan 31:10  You know, you can, there are places in Asia where you can go be a monk for like, three weeks or four weeks or whatever. Kevin Carton 31:17  I did not know that.Lesley Logan 31:18  And then, people, yes. So I know people who, like, once a year, spend a month as a monk, and I think that that's incredible. I couldn't do it. I think would depend on the type of, well, first of all, I'm a female and not, so often, not an option. But a lot of monks only eat once a day, right? It's a whole thing. So there is a way to experience it without having to do it forever. Kevin Carton 31:36  Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Just to, qualifier what it is even that has me experience, right, again, it's that oneness. But as I mentioned, I like to call these portals that we go through in terms of awareness, like from, just a recap, victimhood to that by me phase is we take responsibility. That's the portal we go through. Then from the by me phase to the through me phase, we let go of control. And then this final phase that we go through, the portal we go through is completely dissolving separateness, and that's why it's more of an experience to have, not really like a, for most of us, it could be some that they would want to attain that fully and completely in their life and live that. But most people have those experiences, like in deep meditation, in connection with nature, potentially even in certain exercises, like, when you're really in touch with your body, there's this oneness, not only with yourself, but with all, with all life. But the funny thing is, the most common experience of the as me phase is through orgasm between two human beings.Lesley Logan 32:33  Really? So people can experience it, yeah, they can experience it now. Kevin Carton 32:38  Yeah, 100% yeah. It's actually, in some ways, common, right? We just don't often think of it as this spiritual experience, because, at least, like, sex and that whole topic has just gotten quite muddied in a way, you know, like, just not in as pure, and I'm putting in air quotes because, not anything of like, you know, what I might say is, like, pure or anything, but who's to have that definition? But it is the most common experience in as me phase. Lesley Logan 33:02  Cool. So I guess my only question on this is, is it possible to, like, get to the by me, maybe into the through me, and then all of a sudden you're back at the to me, because I feel like there can be days where you're just like, oh my God, and then you're reacting, and then you're blaming and then you're like, who, what the hell is this person? I don't know this person. And then you have to, like, go back, and so maybe the quicker you get to getting back to the by me and through me is the key. Kevin Carton 33:27  That's the goal. Yeah, it's not about perfection, because we're human, so we're flawed, we're not going to be perfect. And there's a law of the universe called the Law of Rhythm. We all work with it and know it and experience it every single day, with the night and the day, like the light and the darkness that we experience. It's the round of our breath, the inhale, the exhale. There's that rhythm, the ebb and the flow of the tides of the ocean, right? It's within all things, the same thing with our consciousness. It's, I believe, naive to think that we're going to stay in one phase of awareness constantly for the rest of our life. Almost impossible. I'm not saying it's impossible, because I believe anything's possible, but more likely, we're just going to go through rhythms and times where we're more connected, more aware, and then we fall asleep, just like we need rest, you know, in a given day, like we fall asleep, so we need that in consciousness as well. Lesley Logan 34:14  Oh, Kevin, I could talk to you all day. This is so fascinating. I really, I didn't even know that you could have science and spirituality in the same, like, I really am blown away and excited. We're gonna take, we're gonna take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you, work with you. Lesley Logan 34:28  All right, Kevin, where do you hang out? Where can people stalk you in the best way?Kevin Carton 34:33  Sure, the two places I hang out the most. My website is kevincarton.com it's a kind of a hub for, like, different resources I have, as well as the main place I hang out, my podcast with my brother. I'm very blessed to say I've been running this podcast with my brother for five and a half years. He's my co-host and my closest friend. He's my older brother. He's a year and a half older than me. We created it. It's called Science and Spirituality, which you can find anywhere.Lesley Logan 34:58  Oh, I'm gonna download it now, this is going to be exciting. You're gonna be on my ears more. You have an amazing gift for our peeps, and you have some Be It Action Items for us. So can you give us all the good stuff?Kevin Carton 35:09  Yeah, I'd be happy to and thank you for the ability to share this with your audience, too. So I have a meditation called the metacognition meditation. Metacognition is just a technical psychological term, or psychology term for this tool of noticing what you're noticing. It's the most profound tool I, spiritual tool, I've ever come across to help you connect with who you really are as a spiritual being having this human experience. And, to connect it with our conversation, I really believe it's a great tool to help yourself listen in and get curious for what your purpose is, what your true desires are, when you actually get in touch with who you really are. So it's a 23 minute guided meditation. Might sound a bit long for those who may not be a regular meditator, but it's a guided meditation. So I'd have beautiful music behind there, and I guide you through every step of the way. And it's really powerful. So it's completely free. And, obviously, there's a link in the show notes that Lesley and her team puts there.Lesley Logan 36:05  Oh yeah, it's gonna be there. And also, 23 minutes is less than 2% of your day, everyone, just less than 2% and it's really important to move your body, yes, but also it's important to be with your body. And some days we can't move. And so sitting still and listening to this, and even if you don't sit still, I think that probably that's something to notice. Oh, I can't wait. I'm excited. Brad's gonna be excited, too. He let's see him not tap his foot for 23 minutes. We'll see how that goes. Okay, Be It Action Items, bold, executable, intrinsic or target steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Kevin Carton 36:39  Yes. So my main tool I use, which actually is a kind of a piggyback off of this whole conversation too, clearly, as you could tell, I often come back to just the source of all life as an inspirational like jumping off point of the foundation. So I personally use gratitude as a practice for being it until I see it in a couple of different levels. But the first and foremost, pretty obvious level, is just gratitude for what's going on in life right now, to focus on the positive, the good things you have in your life right now, to build this solid foundation of loving or enjoying your aspects of your life to a great degree so you can attract more of that. And then the second level of gratitude to connect to, which I believe comes from that connection with our higher power, is a gratitude for being alive today and the opportunity that we have to even dream of what we would love to be in the future. And then once we have that clarity and gratitude for even just the possibility, then the third level of gratitude of actually being grateful for what we say we want or who we say we want to be now, as if it's already ours. And as speaking of science, I always love the science to this. Scientific studies prove now that if we just imagine vividly enough something we would love to experience, or who we would love to be, our brains neurons light up in the exact same way as if we were actually experiencing said thing. This is actually you look this up pro golfers, and it's becoming more popular in pro football, but golfing, it's been around for decades as a very strong practice, but now just supported by a lot of scientific research. So I recommend that as a practice, because it works with our physiology very well, and it stimulates what now is called neuroplasticity. A lot of people might know that. So, gratitude is the key to work with there. Lesley Logan 38:24  Who knew? I mean, that is so cool. You know, like, my favorite things to remember about gratitude is, like, gratitude and judgment can't live in the same space. And so as a practice, whenever I'm feeling judgmental of myself for an experience or whatever, I like, to take a moment and I'm like, okay, hold on. I'm grateful for this right now. And also you can feel that judgment disappear. And sometimes it's like, one of the easiest ways to then, to me, to take another set, to look at, like, what is going on, so that I'm not a victim and the thing, so, what a cool tool. We've had over 500 episodes, and I'm not sure that gratitude was used in that way, or at all, in a Be It Action Item. So, thank you for blowing our minds. I think you're just so awesome. Kevin Carton 39:03  You're welcome. Thank you. Lesley Logan 39:04  You're so wonderful. This is a saver, for sure. There's so many different little avenues I want to dig into more. So I can't wait to hear what our listeners' takeaways were. So please, you guys, tag Kevin, tag the Be It Pod, share this with a friend who needs it. Share it with a friend who you feel like is kind of sticking in that, that victimhood thing, it's hard. They don't, they might not listen to all of your suggestions. So maybe they can listen to Kevin tell them, and they could be blown away as much as I am. And you know what to do. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 39:33  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 40:16  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 40:21  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 40:25  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 40:32  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 40:35  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley Logan shares her favorite empowering quotes from iconic women around the world, celebrates listener wins from Nancy Lawrence, and reflects on a recent experience where she held space for both joy and grief at the same time. Plus, the mantra you'll want to repeat all weekend long. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:10 inspirational quotes from powerhouse women.How Pilates creates new opportunities and personal growth.Why it is important to honor both hard emotions and joyful moments.Why showing up for yourself is a win worth celebrating.Episode References/Links:Real Woman Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/p/DG8ebz4zNop If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:47  Hi, Be It babe. Hello. Welcome to your Fuck Yeah Friday. Welcome to the one of my favorite episodes put together because it changes every week. I mean, it's not, it doesn't change every week, but there's something new and exciting and inspiring. So you might be excited about what I'm gonna say right now which I, 10 most inspiring quotes from some of the greatest women around the world. I'm gonna tell you that in a minute. You might be inspired by a win from someone else, or you might hear one of your own that you sent in, or maybe a win of mine gives you permission to celebrate something that's a win of yours, right? So we celebrate big wins around here, but especially the small ones, especially those. And then we leave you with a mantra. So welcome to Be It Pod. If you are new here. This is our short and sweet episode. We have our longer interviews on Tuesdays, and Brad and I recap and have fun on Thursdays. Lesley Logan 1:26  Okay, so let's go through these 10 most inspiring quotes from some of the greatest women around the world. So this is from Maya Angelou. Each time a woman stands up for herself, without knowing it's possible, without claiming it, she stands up for all women. I mean, that right there would just be like enough of an inspiration. Thank you, Maya Angelou for always doing that. So next up is from Michelle Obama. There is no limit to what we, as women, can accomplish. There is no limit to what we, as women, can accomplish. This is from Shirley Chilsom. If they don't give you a seat at the table, bring a folding chair. Yeah, she did. She's freaking awesome. If you don't know her history, go educate yourself this weekend. From Oprah Winfrey. Think like a Queen. A Queen is not afraid to fail. Failure is another stepping stone to greatness. Thank you, Oprah. Coco Channel. A girl should be two things: who and what she wants. Who and what she wants. This is from G.D. Anderson. Feminism isn't about making women strong. Women are already strong. It's about changing how the world perceives that strength. Oh, chills. Serena Williams. Every woman's success should be an inspiration to another. We're strongest when we cheer each other on. Malala. I raise my voice not so I can shout, but so that those without a voice can be heard. Florence Griffith Joyner. When anyone tells me I can't do anything, I'm just not listening anymore. Margaret Thatcher. If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman. Well, these ladies are just some bad asses. So I don't know which one your favorite was, but I think that sometimes we just need to have those quotes somewhere. So I'm super excited to have read those, they came out on International Women's Day, but like every day should be International Women's Day, I think, so there's that to me. Lesley Logan 3:27  Anyways, let's get into your wins. This is from Nancy Lawrence. I actually have two wins from her, and so we'll have a Nancy Lawrence win day because she sent us a couple. I think I said this before, Nancy Lawrence came on our Cambodia retreat, and she's been having some epic wins that were all from what she manifested during the retreat, so. I live in Dallas, Texas and have a spa in Memphis, Tennessee. I'm an aesthetician and Pilates teacher. My brand is strength and beauty. I want to promote both skincare and Pilates to my clientele. Well, in doing so, I have a skincare client who owns a ballet studio in Memphis. She loves Pilates. She has hired me to teach Pilates to her 12 to 17 year old ballerinas. I'm so excited in this opportunity, and this week, I'll be teaching a birthday party in Dallas. She turns 23 at Club Pilates. The birthday girl specifically asked me to teach her and her friends and told me to bring it on like I do in class. So cute. And I got hired to teach at Club Pilates in Memphis Metropolitan Area Pilates studios. I love working with young people and the youthfulness Pilates has given me. And I love Lesley Logan for being that inspiration in my life. Well, Nancy Lawrence, these wins are so cool, I mean, so cool that you can live in one place, have dreams and have a business in another place, and be not only rocking that, but allowing yourself to support others along the way, like that, like people are seeing that energy and wanting you to be part of it. It's just so cool. I do love that the young kids are getting into Pilates. It's gonna be so much better for them. So way to find ways to take your Pilates magic everywhere and have your skincare practice. And I think it's so easy for us, for people to go like you have to be one thing, so you should only be a Pilates instructor. And then you're like, no, I'm gonna be both. And then what we have to do it in Dallas, that's where you live, and it's like, well, I'm gonna do it in Memphis, too. You're just not letting people put you in a box, Nancy, so thank you for inspiring all of us, because we can go outside the lines and we can go beyond states and counties and make magic happen everywhere. So Nancy, you're just inspiring all of us. Thank you for sharing your win. Lesley Logan 5:19  Okay, my win. So here's the thing, Brad and I had a really, like, not so awesome thing, it's very tragic thing that happened a couple months ago at this point, and it happened really suddenly like most tragic, traumatizing things do. WBe share a lot, right? We're really good at sharing here. I think you know that about me, like, I'll share anything, but I also share things that I've fully processed and, and even in this moment when we record it, I'm just not there. I'm not able to share it. But I remember thinking like, how am I supposed to get in the car and drive to Denver and be around hundreds of people and support them, if you listen to my win last week, how am I supposed to do that and teach these long workshops and be all the things that they're expecting, because they know me as this energetic, excited person, and I am that person, but I'm really sad right now. I'm really sad right now. And what was really cool, and this is a win, is that Brad and I were able to be so present and so excited to see everyone and so energetic and so supportive and hold space for all these people. And then when we needed to feel our feelings, we, at night in our room, and we're driving home in our van, and on a hike, we did. We absolutely did. So I'm just, I just share that with you, because I think it's really, like, life sucks a lot of the time, and then it's also super awesome, and they often happen to, like, in the same day or in the same weekend, and so it can be hard to celebrate the win for very long, because then something else happened, and it might not have happened to you, it might have happened to someone else around you, and then you feel bad celebrating something that happened good to you when something bad happens around somewhere else. But here's the deal, we can actually hold several emotions at once, right? I could cry and feel our feelings at the end of each day, and I could wake up and go, I'm so grateful to be here right now with all these people. I get to do this, and I'm gonna go enjoy that, and I will say that actually was really grateful that all that happened was to happen at the same time, because I could have space and a distraction from the thing that I was reconciling with. I could have that space and I could come back to it, and it felt really good, rather than just submersing myself in it for a few days and then coming out of my shell, we just, we got to really do it. We could do all the things. We got to do all the things. So I think it's something we'll keep to ourselves. But I just want you to know that I get it like I get when bad things happen and it's really hard to see the win, I think that's when you have to find the win even more. And it's not a toxic positivity thing. It's not what I'm talking about here. It's a feeling your feelings and being present where you are, right, what's going on around you, what good thing that you worked so hard for is happening in this exact moment at the same time, and can you be present for that right and not let this tragic thing take away from the win. So the thing that happened in no way takes away from the great thing that happened or the great things that happened before it at all. It's its own thing. It's its own book. It's its own chapter. It's its own start and stop. And I hope that that makes sense, trying to, trying to make sure that you understand, like it's not always bright-eyed and rainbows and unicorns. But that doesn't mean that you can't go look for things. I have a girlfriend who lost her father, and we were talking, and she was looking for spring, looking for signs of spring, like there could be also spring happening while you're grieving. So anyways, sharing that win with you. Lesley Logan 8:47  Now, it's time for a mantra. Let's end this on a high note. I'm a magical manifester. Yeah, you are. I am a magical manifester. I'm a magical manifester. All right, babe, send your wins in. Listen to the Be It Pod, share this with a friend, and until next time, you know what to do, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 9:07  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 9:50  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 9:55  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 9:59  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 10:06  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 10:09  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this solo episode, Brad Crowell shares his deep-rooted passion for Cambodia, how he and Lesley Logan built a retreat space in Siem Reap, and why they keep returning year after year. From the breathtaking temples of Angkor Wat to their partnership with a local NGO empowering young Cambodians, Brad reflects on creating a place for healing, learning, and connection. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why Cambodia's history and magic make it a powerful place to host retreats.How Brad turned a childhood spark into a purpose-driven retreat experience.How Lesley and Brad built a retreat center that reflects their mission and values.How supporting local students through Spoons became part of their mission.What makes the guest experience at their Cambodia retreat truly one of a kind.Episode References/Links:Cambodia October Retreat 2025 - https://crowsnestretreats.comSpoons Cambodia - https://www.spoonscambodia.orgAngkor Wat (UNESCO) – https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/668 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/ Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  Angkor Thom is really cool because this is a UNESCO heritage site now, and normally, if it's a UNESCO heritage site, they are required to, slowly, over time, rebuild the whatever the structure is to be as if it was the original structure, right? Angkor Thom is one of the few carveouts in the UNESCO portfolio, or, as it were, that they don't have to do that because the trees are 400 years old, 500 years old. They've grown on top of the temple there. And basically, if they were to take the trees off, the temple would fall apart.Lesley Logan 0:32  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Brad Crowell 1:11  All right. Welcome back Be It babes. This is Brad here. Solo episode today. Hope you like the sound of my voice, because I'm just going to be rambling a little bit about my favorite topic in the entire world, going to Cambodia to spend time with the people there and enjoy some food there and go see the majestic, wonderful temples of Angkor Wat. It is obviously something I'm incredibly passionate about. You've heard me talk about it many, many times in this pod, if you're a listener. If you are brand new, welcome, welcome. We love having you joining us here on the Be It Pod. Cambodia, everybody always asks, hey, why Cambodia? Why? Right? Well, that's definitely my fault. The reality is, my mom bought at a yard sale. She bought, like, 10 years of National Geographic magazines for, I don't know, well, I don't know, I have no idea, I was like 10 years old, or 12 years old or something. Anyway, I opened up the very first one I remember, because I'm sure I looked at a lot, but the one I remember more than any other was opening up this, like, entire spread of Angkor Wat, right? And I didn't even know how to pronounce it at the time. I was a really young kid. But what I can tell you is I was way into dinosaurs, The Jungle Book and Transformers as a child, and when I saw this 10-page spread, or the spread of Angkor Wat in Nat Geo, this was like the Jungle Book in real life to me, and I was so excited about this, the curiosity that it inspired in me literally stayed with me until Lesley asked me, like, I don't know, 20 plus years later, hey, where do we want to go for our honeymoon? And my response instantly was, we're going to Cambodia.Brad Crowell 3:05  You know, and she's like, um, really, we're going to Cambodia. Why would we do that? Can we also go to Thailand? Can we also go to Japan? And I was like, of course, let's do those other things, too. But we have to go to Cambodia. I have to see Angkor Wat. I have to see the temples and the jungle temples. And you know, since then, I've been inspired a number of other times. I'm sure you're all aware that Angelina Jolie's version of Tomb Raider was actually filmed at the temples. It was filmed at Ta Prohm temple. That's, like, a really cool temple. It's actually really close to Angkor Wat. It's like, I don't know, 10 minutes away or 15 minutes away from Angkor, and so we have had a chance to go see that one. We saw the Angkor. We saw a temple called Bayon Temple, which actually they considered the, you know, at the time, because what's so cool about the history of Cambodia was a massive empire, is called the Khmer empire, K-H-M-E-R, Khmer Empire, and it covered all of Vietnam up into Lao, Laos, you know, Lao over into Thailand. It's very influenced by India, very influenced by the Thai, and then obviously, what was considered Cambodia today. So it was this massive, massive place. And Angkor was in the middle, and there's a city there, and the city is like fortified, there's a moat around the whole thing. It's this huge city, and in the very center of that city is Bayon Temple. And so they actually consider Bayon temple the center of the universe. They consider the center tower all the way up at the top to be like this pinnacle place that had a spiritual meaning. And the amount of wonder that Angkor inspires in me keeps me going back. Brad Crowell 4:42  When Lesley and I first went in 2016, we realized when we got home we loved Thailand, we loved Japan, but there was something magical about Cambodia that made us go, how do we go back? How do we go back? And that was the beginning of trying to figure that out. We try to figure out, how do we go? What do we need to do to get back there? Initially, we were like, hey, let's ask all of our friends and they'll come with us. This is gonna be super cool. And they were like, yeah, we're interested. But it never came to fruition, right? It was like, oh, yeah, maybe, we're not sure. Couldn't get anybody to actually commit. Lesley went back to her clients and said, is this ever been on anybody's bucket list going to Angkor? We are thinking about hosting a retreat there. And literally, like a dozen of her clients were like, yes, we're in, absolutely, let's do it. And we figured out a window of time that would work for everyone, and we gave ourselves roughly a year to put it all together, because we didn't know anybody. We had one contact there, and that was our tour guide. And so he was super generous. He was just a really helpful connector. And he helped guide us through figuring out, like, who should we talk to for hosting the retreat? And, you know, just all the things, any kind of question. And it was just lovely to have him. So a big shout out to Stephane De Greef and a big thank you to him. Eventually, when he decided to leave Cambodia and move over to Panama and then wherever he's at now, he contacted me and said, hey, man, I'm leaving, but let me introduce you to everybody that I know. And he did. He opened his Rolodex and just introduced us to all these different people there. And it was incredible. Brad Crowell 6:16  So we had the chance to go back in 2017 for our very first trip with Lesley's clients, and we rented a yoga shala. And the shala was really, really awesome. The people were really lovely. And so we decided to rent it again, and we run another group, and we rented a third time, and the third time, the experience just didn't work. It wasn't what we wanted. And it was actually frustrating, because when Lesley and I turned to ourselves and we were like, hey, maybe we should go get a hotel from our own retreat, we were like, yeah, we can't do this anymore. We got to find a better solution. And that's when we decided to go get our own place, right? And so now we'd been there four times at this point, and we just had a bunch of people that we knew. We reached out to them and said, hey, we're looking for a spot. How do we do this? And they helped connect the dots and help us get going. And basically it turned into this hunt for the right spot, the right place for us to take over and turn into ours. And in 2018 that happened, and it was so exciting. I remember flying back, it was really quick too, like, we got this message from our real estate person. They were like, hey, I think I actually found the right spot. And they gave us all these reasons why, and they really understood our mission and our vision. They really understood what we were trying to do. And they said, we actually like the people that you would be working with to do this, because we're not Cambodian. We can't actually own the land. We're not allowed. We're not a citizen, so we have to have a relationship with people who do own the land there, and they're literally our land lord, and we pay them as if it's like a lease, but we own all the things on it. We own a business there. We have a team there, all that stuff. And so he said, I actually think these people are going to be amazing, and they encourage people coming to visit Cambodia, and they care about it, and they're passionate about it, and so they're right. It was amazing. We met them. They were incredibly gracious and lovely, and we've had, at this point, many, many, many years of building a relationship with them. They're just awesome people, and we absolutely lucked out in that regard. And what we did is we took over this property that has a 12 bedroom apartment complex on it, and allowed us to begin to have our own place to bring you know, people from all around the world to come visit and have a safe, secure, clean, fun place. It's also quiet. We're right off the beaten path. We're like 10 minutes walk from the chaos of Pub Street and wow, like all the loud, but we're far enough away that you don't hear it. We're close enough to walk, but far enough away that it doesn't actually impact you. So it's so awesome. From the place we're like, maybe, oh, I don't know, 15 minutes drive to the Temple of Angkor Wat, which is the largest religious structure in the world. It is still functioning today. They absolutely use it for religious ceremonies and stuff. There's a mix of Hinduism and Buddhism in the way that, it's primarily Buddhist today. You know, you can still find other religions there. There's some Christianity, there's some Muslim faiths there. Primarily it's Buddhist, but the history of the country is a mash up of Hinduism and Buddhism because of war, right? It would be like invaded and then, you know, taken over and taken back and back and forth and all this stuff. And so consequently, there's actually a lot of history that was destroyed by the invading army. They'd come in and break all the statues, and then, you know, the other they build theirs. And then these guys would come back, and it would go back and forth over the centuries that that kind of thing happened. And what's so amazing is all of that is still there. It is available to be seen. It is just the most mind-bending thing when you get there and you're like, this is a thousand years old. This statue that I'm looking at here, they carved this. How did they do this? How did they move the stone? How did they even get this here? Like, how did they think this stuff up? Is it is so mind-blowing to me, because it's exactly in line with the stars and meridian lines and longitude and latitude, the amount of science and thought and understanding of architecture and structural integrity and the building materials and the process of doing it, it is so incredibly thought through and advanced. And then the art itself, the carvings, the planning, how could they have thousands of meters of wall? And it's not a repeat carving anywhere in the entire thing. It's all unique. Every single person in that that's carved into the wall is like, different from the person next to it. You know, it's amazing. It's just incredible. And they spent, I don't know, I think it was a couple decades to build Angkor Wat, like 30 plus years or something. But every time I go, I see something new. Every single time I go, I see something new. Brad Crowell 10:43  And so when we go, what we love to do is take our guests through the temples in a way that you would not normally go if you were to just show up and hire a typical tour guide, tuk guide kind of a thing. You'll see the big three, you know, you'll go to the city of Angkor Thom. You'll actually go to Angkor Wat, of course, which is the temple itself. You'll go to Bayon Temple, usually, and maybe one other place. So whatever one they'll probably take you to the jungle temple Ta Prohm, like I was saying that Angelina Jolie filmed at because that's a really mysterious temple as well, with this epic trees that have grown over top of the temple. In fact, Angkor Thom is really cool because this is a UNESCO heritage site now. And normally, if it's a UNESCO heritage site, they are required to, slowly, over time, rebuild the whatever the structure is to be as if it was the original structure, right? Angkor Thom is one of the few carve-outs in the UNESCO portfolio, as it were, that they don't have to do that, because the trees are 400 years old, 500 years old, they've grown on top of the temple there. And basically, if they were to take the trees off, the temple would fall apart. And so they got this exception to keep the everything as it is right now. And that makes it even more cool. I mean, it's just, it's so amazing. So when everybody arrives on Sunday night, we we just hang out. We do like class, we get some food, we usually go get a massage, and then the next morning, we get up and we have class, and then we have the morning off, because after lunch, we all hop on our tour bus and we go see a series of temples. We go to the south gate at Angkor Thom, we go see a pagoda. A pagoda is like a place of worship for monks today, it's kind of like a church, but it's usually open air, open-walled, right? So it's just like a covered building, generally. Sometimes they're, they've got walls and everything, too. But these pagodas that are inside of Angkor Thom are open-aired. And so we go see this pagoda, and there's like monks actually practicing there. And it's really neat to see the community still lives there, and they still do life there, right? So, and then we go in to Bayon Temple, and we go, from there, we might be able to go up to see Angkor or the elephant terrace, which is this like place where the king today still will go up to Angkor and you know, he will have a big ceremony once a year there. The royal family goes there. And then from there, we'll go to the north gate, and we'll see the different gates that they have. And they're all unique. They're all, you know, the similar concept, but they're all unique. And of course, the vegetation, the trees are different, the views are different, all that. Then we'll go out the east gate, and we'll go over and see Ta Prohm, right? Along the way, we'll stop at another place, Chau Say Tevoda, which is a smaller temple that was like, considered a library. There were twin temples there. So there's one on one side of the road, one on the other, the one is in way better shape than the the other side. So we always go to the one that actually is, like in repair. You know, maybe we walk through the jungle a little bit there. And, you know, there's, like, usually there's monkeys, which are not your friend, but they're usually there, too. We get a chance to go through and peek into the past. That is just mind-blowing. And my favorite part of going to Cambodia, well, one of my favorite parts, to be honest, because I really can't pick, is being able to go explore these temples. And there's just something that is so otherworldly about it, because you don't see this in the United States, right? You don't find this stuff, probably not even up in Canada. You might see something comparable in Europe, but it's different, right? The massive cathedrals in Europe could be like, 1000 years old too, but it's not the same as it being like, overtaken by the jungle and then carved out after they re-, quote-unquote, rediscovered it in the, you know, 1860s basically, a French guy discovered it in the 1860s again and brought it back to light in western civilization. And then the French actually occupied Cambodia for like, 100 years. And it wasn't until 1960s that Cambodia became Cambodia. Before that, it was an occupied territory of from the French, and it got its independence in the 60s. Brad Crowell 14:45  The second thing that is just amazing is the food. In Cambodia, they don't cook with milk or dairy products. There's no cheese. It's not standard. They also are generally light on the sauces, right? It's not like Thai food. Where everything has its own sauce, and it's half sauce and half whatever the dish is. It's different than that. They make a lot of curries, like I mentioned, it is, you know, a lot of influence from India and Thailand. There are a lot of noodle dishes, but there's a lot of rice dishes, and it's generally really clean eating, right? So if it's a rice dish, it's rice with a small side salad and then a little bit of prepared meat. Their quote-unquote sauce might be like salt and pepper mix, right? It's not sloshed with all this stuff. And so it's really great food. And it just, it's clean, easy, it's always farm to table, because they don't really have the big processing system that we do in the United States. So everything just tastes so good. I love it. And what we do, we get to work with, this is super special, when we moved there, there was this organization, it's an NGO, or a non-government organization that was started by somebody in the United States. They went there and they had a passion for Cambodia, and they said, hey, we could help. We could affect change by creating, effectively, a vo-tech school, right? So what they did is they would raise money, and then they would go into the countryside, and they would sponsor these kids who were really poor, who could not afford to educate themselves. And they said, hey, if you want to, we will give you a full ride, a full scholarship to our school. You'll stay on campus. You'll learn how to work in the service industry. So we'll teach you how to be a chef. We'll teach you how to be a pastry chef. We'll teach you how to be a barista or a server or a bartender or a manager or whatever. And so it's all surrounding the service industry. And then after the end of the program, after these kids go through the program, which I don't remember how long, it could be a couple years, because they also have, like, regular classes, and there's a dormitory and all this stuff. When they graduate, they actually will help them get a job placement. So they might move down to the big city in Phnom Penh and they go to a fancy hotel there, or maybe they stay relatively local in Siem Reap or maybe they go abroad, I don't know, but the school helps them get placed for a job. And this organization is called Spoons. Well, it's called Spoons today. I can't remember what it was called prior, because unfortunately, during COVID, all the money dried up and all the support dried up, and it wasn't available for them. And unfortunately, the American support basically said, hey, we got to close the doors. We don't have any way to keep this going. And the locals, the team that they have built, the Cambodians, some of them were graduates themselves, then helping to run the school, said, hey, this is an amazing thing that's really helping people here. We want to keep this going. And so they went locally, and they found a couple of really generous donors to effectively step in on the financial side to help support the school. And they were able to keep the doors open. And Lesley and I were there in like 2020 and things were still operating like normal when we were there in March of 2020 but then we were gone for two years. We weren't back until 2022 so when we finally got back in 2022 we went over there and we were talking to them, and they said, somehow we made it through. It's been crazy, but we were able to keep the doors open. And this year, we are sponsoring 20 students. This is the first time that we've ever operated as a company, as an organization, without any outside support. It's all like done locally. It's now run by and owned by Cambodians. They call themselves the Khmer people, run by khmer, and they were really proud of that, because they were able to keep this institution that had been put into place operating. And then the next year they had like 50 students. And then this past year, we were there, you know, we were just there in February of 2025, now, and they have like 78 students. And we're so pleased to be able to work with them, because we have them deliver our meals during the week. And then on the final day of the trip, we actually all go over to the restaurant, to Spoons, and they serve us. The students are working at the restaurant. So, you know, there's the head chef is a graduate, or the manager is a graduate, and they're making sure the wheels stay on the bus, but the barista, the servers, the bussers, all the food prep, all that stuff, is done by the students themselves. And it gives us so much joy to be able to support that organization. And the food they make is amazing. It's so good. Brad Crowell 19:03  We want to invite you to come join us in Cambodia on a trip and experience these things for yourself and join us so that we can make sure that you really do have an incredible time. Come stay at our house. It's so cool. Go to crowsnestretreats.com. We're taking another group in October of 2025, we're taking another group in October of 2026. In '26 we're only taking one group, so make sure that you check it out. Reach out to us and ask any question. I'm happy to answer them all. I love talking about this. I would love to get on the phone with you. It'd be amazing. So thank you so much for listening to me share my enthusiasm about this unbelievable place on our planet. And we hope you come join us. Bye for now.Lesley Logan 19:41  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Lesley Logan shares her favorite parts of the Cambodia retreat and why she believes every woman should experience traveling abroad with a supportive community. Discover how this immersive week of movement, mindset, and connection can spark lasting breakthroughs in your Pilates practice and personal life. Plus, hear how retreat experiences can fast-track your growth and create friendships that truly last. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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We build it like that. It is the thing you can't put a price on, to be completely honest. Because, in life as adults, I think it can be really difficult to make friendships like there's so much going on. For example, I meant to text a girlfriend two weeks ago. She travels a lot. I travel a lot. Something happened in my life and Brad's like, I think you should text her and I was like, yeah, I should text her and I just didn't do it. And then I was taking my yoga class, oh my God, I need to text and see how she is. Now that I'm in town, I can't wait to see her. and after yoga class, she'd already text me. So I just fucking love that. But that friendship, while amazing and wonderful, and for sure, I can go a month without texting her, and we're still the deepest and wonderful of friends, on this retreat there is not a month to make a friendship. You make it in a minute. Lesley Logan 0:44  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:27  Hello, Be It babe. How are you? I'm your guest today. No, it's me, and I'm really excited to chat with you. I realized you hear about us talking about Cambodia a lot, like, in my clips of like, come with us, come do Pilates, come do this, and you probably take a week off of your life to get on a plane, and for most people, at least 17 hours of travel, but probably more like 21, to do all that, you probably want to know a little bit about what is it like, right? And so I thought I'd just have you like a lowdown of my three favorite parts. And on Thursday, Brad is going to tell you about his favorite parts about the retreat. And I hope that this really makes you realize, oh, I'm coming in October. This is going to be something I do. And if you're someone who wants to host your own retreat, you can actually use our system and our team helps that make it easier for you. Obviously, you'd replace Pilates with whatever it is you do. But at any rate, let me tell you a little bit, so first of all, why do we go to Cambodia? Why do we go to Siem Reap? Well, if you're at all like me, you're probably like, hmm, can I go to an island? Can I lay on a beach? And I definitely understand a vacation of that sort. But this is not that. And you come to this for a different reason. So first of all, when Brad and I got married, which would be 10 years ago this October, Brad and I got married he wanted to go to Siem Reap for our honeymoon. And I was like, wow, that is not what I thought honeymoon would be. I thought a honeymoon would be like an island in Thailand on a boat. But really, I was like, okay, well, if we do Siem Reap, can we go to Thailand, and we also went to Japan. It was really, really fun. And the most hilarious thing is like, what we resist is there to assist, because we landed in Siem Reap and I was, my soul is home. It was dark, you guys. It was so dark. We went straight to bed. But like, I just was so excited to be there. I love the smell of it. I love the energy. It was just so different. And I think, you guys, we have an episode that came out with Monique Rhodes about getting out into cultures that are different than ours, and getting a little uncomfortable. And I just realized there was like a sense of joy around me and energy inside me that was like this is amazing. I got up and we watched the sun rise over Angkor, and then we went to like, seven temples in one day, maybe nine, and I just knew I'd come back. And so a year later, we had two retreats that year. We took people, Pilates clients, there, and we just had so much fun. We did it again and again and again. Now we've been, I don't know, 10 or 12 retreats. At any rate, what happens when you come on a retreat with us, and the reason I think you will love this so much is I really believe that women should travel abroad. I think it's really important for women to see different ways the world works, see how different cultures support the people around them and community around them. I just thought it was just like the coolest thing. And so at any rate, I also know that traveling alone is not actually everyone's cup of tea, and also it might not feel very accessible or very safe. And so when we created this retreat, I wanted you to become to my home, because that's gonna make you feel more comfortable, right? And also we wanted to make it super easy, so that you don't even have to worry about, how do you get from the airport to where we are. It's a different country. t's a different language. Whenever I land in different country, I'm always like, okay, I know once I get to my hotel, I'm gonna be okay, but from the hotel to the airport, how does this work? Do I need a credit card? Do we have to have cash? Do you have to exchange already? What's the cultural system? How far is the airport? Sometimes they're so far away. So you don't have to worry about that, because we actually pick you up. We have one of our most amazing drivers, trusted drivers, who comes and picks you up. You come to our house and we do five Pilates classes over the six days. So we actually do a class when you arrive, just to stretch out from the plane, and I find out like, what your movement goals are that week and what exercises you want to move through. And each class helps each person build up to the practice and things that they want. And we had so many people, like this last retreat, we have people who never did Pilates before, to clients of ours who've been part of OPC for a really long time, to teachers who've been teaching for a really long time, and each person got to work on an exercise that they really struggled with and get some breakthroughs. It was really a lot of fun. And so we do one afternoon class, and then four mornings we do a class. We don't do a class on the sunrise day. I promise you, we get enough steps in. We do. We get enough steps in. And so it's just really quite fun to see also how your Pilates practice can change only in a week, but from day to day depending on what we did the day before, which is just fabulous. It's like creating the Pilates movement habit that you really want. We do it together on this retreat. Lesley Logan 5:39  So Brad will talk more about all the temples and the food and all the other stuff, but I wanted to tell you about the workshops. So I used to do Pilates mat workshops. And the truth is, is that it's hot. It's hot there. And two and a half hours working on our mats, on these exercises. While super fun and interesting, it's also just a lot. It's a lot on the body. It's a lot on the mind. And I don't think it makes your mat practice more consistent when you get home. The mat classes themselves do that. So I pulled together some my favorite things that are like podcast type, my business coaching type, my breath work stuff, all that stuff, I pulled it together, and I put this unique two day workshop together where we do breath work to visualize what we want. Who do we want to be? What is this Be It Till We See It, right? What is that? And then we journal, and you can share what you want. Obviously, don't have to. And then we go through all the different things that you should get clear on. So it's like everything, every Be It podcast has taught us roughly on manifestation and visualization into a workshop, and we end with breath work, and it's just so beautiful to solidify it. Lesley Logan 6:53  Then the next thing, we come back, I take that woo-woo, and I bring in stuff that makes it a one woo, which is, how do we actually get the thing we visualize to become reality? How do we do that? And I can tell you right now, because we've done this so many times, and we've had people do it twice, that we have a woman, her wins will be shared on a future FYF, that in less than six months of the retreat, and what she visualized, she's already doing the things that she put together, already, right, already done. So because we actually talk about, okay, so you're really busy. You've known you want this life for a really long time, but you don't know how to do it. We actually go through a series of exercises to make that a reality. Buy back your time. Make it easier for you to have the habits you want. Make a morning routine that you like to have. Make an ideal schedule that has you and your priorities in it. All the things that you hear me talk about in, like, short, quick sentences, we take hours to, like, really dive in and depending on who you are and where you're at in your life, one of the practices we do might be the exact thing you need, where the other one might be for someone else. It's just really fun, because by the end of the second workshop day, you have homework that you can take back on literally, what your first next step is to make this vision become a reality, to make this vision something you can be till you see. It's just really, really cool, and it's something that I promise you, like doing breath work outside and hearing birds chirping and sometimes a frog ribbiting to the side, and then the traffic's going by, like it's just really cool, like you're not so removed from life that you're woo, I'm off in Wonderland. And then you visualize something that's not even what you want, but it just sounds so spiritually amazing. No, you visualize what you want. Lesley Logan 8:35  And the thing that this retreat always attracts is the almost epic people, and they change you because they validate you. They see you. They high five you. We had a beautiful soul who was like, I don't want to feel like this. I don't feel like this emotion. I'm going to keep that between the retreaters and the women there didn't even know her, and they're like, no, no one would ever judge you for that. You don't need to feel like that. And validated her in a way they don't know her, you know. And so that to me, that community, that family, that we build, we build it in a class, we build it like that. It is the thing you can't put a price on, to be completely honest. Because in life, as adults, I think it can be really difficult to make friendships like there's so much going on. For example, I meant to text a girlfriend two weeks ago. She travels a lot. I travel a lot. Something happened in my life, and Brad's like, I think you should text her. And I was like, yeah, I should text her. And I just didn't do it. And then I was taking my yoga class. Oh my God, I need to text her and see how she is. Now that I'm in town, I can't wait to see her. And after yoga class, she'd already text me, so I just fucking love that. But that friendship, while amazing and wonderful, and for sure, I can go a month without texting her, and we're still the deepest and wonderful of friends, on this retreat, there is not a month to make a friendship. You make it in a minute, and it's really quite cool, because these people have no idea who, what your life is back at home, and so you can kind of explore the things that you desire, the things you want, the things that you're worried about, in a way that is in a different vacuum, half a day away from everything else. Lesley Logan 10:08  You can notice what you miss, what you don't miss. You can notice what you don't actually worry about, and what you are and it really helps you have some perspective. But most importantly, you get these deep friendships that just this shared experience, that even a year, five years from now, you'll think back to this trip and that person, that conversation, and how integral it was into you becoming more of the person you want to be. I think it's really hard to dream up what your future should be in the current chaos of your life. I think it's just really hard. Because even if you are able to, like, close your eyes and tune out all the noise, the moment you're done with the meditation, there's a knock on the door, an extra bill came that you weren't expecting, or someone texts you out of the blue and needs something. And so it can be really hard to, like, stay in that juiciness, right, to stay in that space, to really pull it together, to pull the whole dream together, pull a vision together, to, like, really explore what you don't want without any outside influence. And so yes, we're there and we're outside, and there's gonna be influence, but that influence is going to be, oh my God, over a thousand years ago, a bunch of people built these temples without machines, right? They did a bamboo and elephants, and someone put this from idea into reality, and there was a whole world here thriving away from the ocean a thousands years ago, because they were able to figure out how to get the water to run the wrong direction so that they could live. Talk about moving actual mountains to create a society that thrives and survives. Lesley Logan 11:48  And so to me, what is so cool about prioritizing your Pilates practice, or even starting a Pilates practice and being around other people and having the most incredible experience, an exposure to something so different. In Cambodia, they have a very savory breakfast, okay, and it's very filling, because a lot of them work outside, and most of us probably barely sit down and enjoy our breakfast. But there, we like sit down, enjoy it. We get to explore it. We have it outside. There's all these different things we do, and having that such a different cultural experience keeps you from doubting or putting up obstacles to making your dreams a reality, which is why so many of our retreaters have come back again and have made changes within a week, 30 days, six months of their life, and are having their dream become a reality, and more importantly, they're in community, because it's, like I was saying, was so hard to build friendships. You build them in seconds because you all are there because you wanted a week away. So you have that thing common. You're all there because you're like, I wanted to see this. I wanted to go on this experience. And so it really brings barriers down and allows you to have really deep, wonderful aha conversations, and yeah, you'll go shopping or go for a walk with someone you literally met yesterday. And it's just, it's just magical. So I'm really obsessed with this retreat. I really love exposing people to a culture that's so different than theirs. I really love people seeing how uncomfortable they can be. Not that the retreat is uncomfortable at all, but meaning like, yes, you can do that long flight. Yes, you can get to a foreign country on your own. Yes, you can be among strangers and make friends. Yes, you can do Pilates five times in one week. Yes, you can visualize what you want. Yes, you can try a food that you've never heard of and like it. Yes, you can, right? And what that brings in your confidence that you take home with you. Most people get home and they're like, take me back. How do I go back to where that was? Because there's just something so present in your body when you're there. That's how I can describe it. You just get so present, get out of all the chaos, and you get to just be yourself among some really cool people. Lesley Logan 14:04  So I want you to come. I want you to come this year. I want you to come with us. I want you to stay at my house. Want you to move with me. I want to hear what you dream of, and I want to celebrate that, and I want to help you find the first next step for that. And I want to build a community with you that puts in, build in cheerleaders and accountability buddies to remind you, oh my God, remember this? I want to give you memories that last a lifetime. Lesley Logan 14:28  So go to crowsnestretreats.com so that you can be it till you see it on this and I think the Be It Action, I would just be like, what if you could do this trip? What if you could go on a trip? What if you were someone who could go on this trip? What would that look like? Who would you have to be? What help do you need? Just, do you need a travel agent to help you book the flight? Okay, let's do that. Don't let that technology stop you. Don't let the crazy trip stop you. Do you need someone to watch your dog? I bet you there's someone who can just watch your house and your dog for you. There are, literally, those websites for that. What if you could make this trip happen instead of going, oh, next time, oh, I'm too busy this year. What about next time? What if you could make it happen? I think that's my Be It Action Item. Lesley Logan 15:08  And I will say, I pulled this for Brad, but I think it's really cool for this podcast, it says my creativity exists outside the paradigms I'm told to squeeze myself into. My creativity exists outside the paradigms I'm told to squeeze myself into. You are told all the time, busy, busy, busy. People are busy. Get stuff done. And you're also told a ton of stuff about why you can't take a week off for yourself. You must be on a trip you do with others. You can go on this alone. We've got others for you. Yes, you can. You can. And the way the retreat is set up, if you fly on a Friday night, depending on where you live, you will be there on Sunday morning at the latest, maybe Sunday afternoon. The retreat starts in the early evening, and we end on a Friday morning, so that you can fly out on a Friday and be home probably on a Friday. Solike a week, a week of work. Come on, what are you waiting for? Lesley Logan 15:57  All right, loves. I hope that it was fun to go on a little adventure with me, letting me share why do this retreat? Why I want you on it? What you're going to do with me on it. Thursday, Brad is going to talk about all the other goodness, his favorite parts, and I think it's really fun to hear why he loves it so much. And then you get to experience both of us on a retreat together. And the joy and the adventure is just, well, it's a good kind of contagion. All right loves, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 16:24  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 17:06  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 17:11  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 17:16  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 17:23  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 17:26  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Celebrating global wins and personal milestones, Lesley highlights the incredible breakthroughs from Olympic champion Kirsty Coventry and Agency members launching new programs and signing dream leases. She also reflects on the powerful feedback that reminded her why showing up truly matters and the values she strives to embody as a teacher and coach. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why Kirsty Coventry's IOC appointment is so powerful.How Nancy created new revenue with her first coaching client.How Katelyn successfully signed the lease on her dream studio.​How feedback can fuel your self-worth and confidence.Episode References/Links:About Kirsty Coventry - https://www.instagram.com/p/DHeS0dzOYE1 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. All right, today is episode, is our Fuck Yeah Friday episode is our sweet, short, inspirational gives you all the things you need. Maybe hear a win of your own, or here are some things that people are calling wins and something that inspires me, a win of yours and a win of mine, in the middle we have a mantra, and we go into our weekend the best way possible. Lesley Logan 1:05  So this I saw on the gram, and it inspired the heck out of me. So for the first time in its 131 years, the International Olympic Committee elects a woman president, Olympic champion Kirsty Coventry makes history. So Kirsty Coventry has been elected as the first woman and first African president of the International Olympic Committee, making a groundbreaking moment. A trailblazer both in and out of the pool, the seven-time Olympic medalist is bringing her leadership, experience and passion for the athlete advancement to one of the most influential roles in global sports. I mean, come on, like, how great is this? Because the truth is, is that we all know that the Olympic Committee needs to make sure that it knows what it's doing with these athletes. And I think it's so great that a female athlete, a female Olympian, and the first, 131 years, it's really annoying, but also yay, we did it. It's happened. I mean, we got to celebrate it. And I'm excited to see what Kirsty brings to the Olympics, because I actually do really love the Olympics, and I want to make sure they stay amazing for all that in them. Lesley Logan 2:02  All right, your win. This is from one of our longtime Agency members. Her name is Nancy Brest and we have been so excited with what she's doing. So she said today, I have my first coaching client in a new revenue stream. I'm setting up language scripts to make the conversion from discussion to invitation to work together and offer. Fuck yeah. Way to go, Nancy. Whenever we start a new revenue stream or whenever we start something new, can be really hard. It's like easy to procrastinate. Way to go, way to not do that. And also, you have your first coaching client already. So, way to go. I'm super excited for you. I'm really, really, really thrilled. So thank you, Nancy, for sharing that with us. Lesley Logan 2:39  I'm gonna share a win from Katelyn Elser. I launched a six-week program in January as a test, and all of them converted into continuous subscription clients. I signed a lease for a studio. It's my dream to open a brick and mortar, and this has definitely happened faster than expected. Katelyn, you're a badass. I mean, usually the studio stuff does often happen a little faster than we expect, but you're ready, and you're not doing it like as a guest. So throwing things at a wall, see what sticks, you're doing it so intelligently, and it's been really fun to see what you're doing. So thank you, ladies for sharing your wins with us. Lesley Logan 3:10  I'm going to share this win. I got an email from someone who attended my workshops at the Pilates On Tour in Denver at Balanced Body's event, and I'm not going to share all of the email because some of it is personal and stuff like that for us, but I've never had someone just like, send me a bullet-pointed list of like, the things that they loved about my workshops. But I'm calling this a win because what you're about to hear is exactly what I've always wanted for my events. And so to have someone put into words and say this, I had to celebrate this. So this from Sophia, she said you really create a safe space for people to ask questions and speak up, make them feel important and valued. You have an incredible depth of knowledge about Pilates, people, business. I had no idea what a resource you were, and I'm so glad I know now. You are confident teaching six bodies you've never seen with 30 people watching while you flow and adjust their movement. You are brave. You don't look down on people because of their training or their knowledge. And things turned a different way than you expected and how you handled it was brilliant. This industry is full of snobs and judgmental people, and I was really impressed you were not either of those things. You build people up instead of tearing them down. You have great information. I love learning about Jay Grimes and what he said and did, and I appreciate hearing your ideas on running a business. And so thank you for all you shared this past weekend. I don't know if you do this, but if you're ever in an industry where you could get feedback from people, and you get good feedback, I hope that you take some time to receive it, right? It'd be so easy, on the same day, I got all this. I also had some customer service emails where people somehow bought too many of the exact same thing. I could have been all consumed by that, and instead, I actually was like, this, this is, this is what I should be consumed by, because this is what I've always wanted people to experience from my workshops and a bunch of other things, of course. And you don't always know that the thing you're doing is working. And so, Sophia, thank you for being part of my win. I'm also excited to see what you do at your growth and your changes in your business. So that's super exciting. Lesley Logan 5:10  Okay, so now you do a mantra. I hope you like, take, like, do you, do you actually receive compliments? Well, if not, I want you to try that this week, and then I want you to celebrate it as a win. Let me know. All right, so our mantra for the weekend, I break all spells that keep me asleep to my own magic. I break all spells that keep me asleep to my own magic. I break all spells that keep me asleep to my own magic. Way to go, babe. Be It babe, thank you so much. We are well into the five hundreds, and we are midway through Q2 and I know there's a lot going on. I really love that you take the time to listen to all of our episodes, and that you share your wins with us, and you share this podcast with a friend. So until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 5:56  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 6:38  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 6:43  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 6:48  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 6:55  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 6:58  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy