Podcasts about OPC

In this energetic recap, Lesley and Brad revisit Lesley's roundtable interview with the OPC teachers and reflect on the power of community, inclusive movement, and consistency. They explore how each teacher's unique journey contributes to the magic of OPC and share how the platform was designed to help every body feel seen and supported. Whether you're a teacher or a student, there's space for you here. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why OPC values community as much as consistency.How a curated class format supports movement without overwhelm.What it means to take messy action—and why it works.How diverse life experiences strengthen teaching and student connection.Why movement “snacks” can reframe how you approach exercises.Episode References/Links:Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukChat with Us - https://opc.me/chatSummer Tour - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comJoin OPC - https://onlinepilatesclasses.comMindi Westfall - https://instagram.com/bendymindipilatesRachel Piper - https://instagram.com/size_diverse_pilatesChristine Kam-Lynch - https://instagram.com/pilates.boundMegan Lauman - https://instagram.com/megans_pilatesYasmin Scholten - https://instagram.com/purapilates_yasmin If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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And I can tell you right now, even if you're not on the platform teaching it, when you're in the community, you're absolutely part of something. Lesley Logan 0:11  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the invigorating convo, the chaotic convo, the most amazing, we have the most guests ever, convo with the OPC teachers, minus Tami, but we'll have her on in a couple of weeks. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you are missing out on some giggles and some fun. And I'm just so glad that Brad, if you guys are watching this on YouTube, I apologize for all the moving, because I asked Brad with my eyes, if we were ready for this. Brad Crowell 1:21  You asked me with your eyes? Lesley Logan 1:22  Yes. And you did a you did an acknowledgement. Brad Crowell 1:25  I'm just making sure you're on the screen. Lesley Logan 1:27  Yeah. And if you are listening to this, just so you know, you will not get motion sickness like everyone else is right now. Okay, he's settled. We're settled. Brad Crowell 1:34  Sunglasses. Lesley Logan 1:37  Okay, now, now we're all just experiencing what ADD and ADHD looks like in the same room. This is a lot. This is confusing. I'm gone, now I've lost track. Okay, let's bring this bus back on the road. So you should listen to the OPC teachers, because they're so fun. We had five of us. Well, I guess me. Brad Crowell 1:56  You count, you're a teacher. Lesley Logan 1:58  I know. So we're. Brad Crowell 1:59  Six out of seven. Lesley Logan 1:59  Six out of seven. We were missing Tami. It's really hard to get all the time zones to work, guys, so I was pretty proud of us to get six, but we'll have Tami on because we actually have really fun thing coming up with her later this year. So, at any rate. Brad Crowell 2:08  Yasmin lives in Germany, you know. Lesley Logan 2:11  I know. And guess whose internet was the one that was fucked up? Ours. So anyways, not that Germany has bad internet, but I'm just saying, like out of all the time zones, I just was having some problems. They were talking without me. They planned a whole trip while I was just, bye, disappered. Brad Crowell 2:23  Yeah, I know you popped back on and they were like, yep, we're just making plans. We're gonna get together. Lesley Logan 2:27  Yeah, they're having an overnight, that's what the OPC teachers do. They love summer parties and anything that brings community together. So you'll just want to listen to that one, but first we'll recap it, and then you can go back and listen. So this is what happens when I take over. I actually know the day, but I'm going to do it anyways, because I know what I wrote. So today is May 1st 2025, and it's Couple Appreciation Day. Brad Crowell 2:47  That's fun. Lesley Logan 2:47  Couple Appreciation Day, just so you know, on May 1st there's 40 other holidays. I had a lot of things I could choose from, but Couple Appreciation Day.Brad Crowell 2:54  Lesley produced, partly produced this episode. Lesley Logan 2:56  I did, I did. It's going to be a mess. So Couple Appreciation Day is celebrated on May 1st whether you've just started dating or you've been married for many years, it's important to appreciate your partner now and then. Celebrating the milestones you've passed and looking to more happy years in the future helps keep the romance alive. Even the smallest of gestures can make an impact. Do the chore so your partner can relax or prepare a nice meal when they come home exhausted from work. Romance doesn't have to be elaborate over the top, unless, of course, that's what a couple is into. But also, today. Brad Crowell 3:25  Can just be a touch on the shoulder or a thank you. Lesley Logan 3:27  You know, do something you're not usually doing without being asked. That's probably the best thing. Brad Crowell 3:32  If you always get flowers. Change it up. Change it up. Lesley Logan 3:34  Yeah, get chocolates or get flowers and chocolates.Brad Crowell 3:37  Or don't give something, but do an act of service or something else. Lesley Logan 3:42  If there's something that your partner complains about doing, maybe try to do it for them. Or if they are tired of driving, maybe today you get them an Uber gift card and they get to have a chauffeur to work. Brad Crowell 3:54  Ooh, that's a fun idea. Lesley Logan 3:57  Also, one of the other holidays today in the Philippines, it's Labor Day. So to our team in the Philippines, we have a lot of people out there. Happy Labor Day to you, by the way, that means it's like May Day, which is a whole historical day that I know about, but surface level. So I'm not going to go into it, but it led to a National Phone-In-Sick Day to make sure that the world knows what happens without your labor. And since we are on the theme of little ways of protesting, if you are an employee somewhere and you have sick days and you haven't been using them, use one. Call in sick. Let people know what it's, let people know what happens if they don't have their team. But just remember, to our team, Happy Labor Day. Have the day off and we love you. So, okay, we are headed to the UK this fall. This is for Pilates teachers and really big in Pilates enthusiasts. We have two locations. We have six workshops. Two are business, Pilates business, and four are Pilates movement related. We've got two classes. The deal on this thing is insanity. If you were to buy each thing one at a time, it was, like, almost $2,000 and we're selling it for, like, I don't know, 550 pounds or something like that. So you'll want to go to opc.me/uk to sign up and snag your spot on the limited spots that we have. Brad Crowell 5:14  Our second person who registered is coming in from Europe, so. Lesley Logan 5:18  Yeah, you can come in from Europe. Brad Crowell 5:20  Yeah, we're going to be in Essex or Leeds, and there's plenty of hotels in the area. Lesley Logan 5:25  And Leeds, the ors. Brad Crowell 5:26  Sorry, yeah, for you, you could pick one of the two. We will be in both. I mean, hell, you want to come to both? Come to both.Lesley Logan 5:33  There's only one workshop that repeats itself, and it's one that you probably want to go to twice, to be completely honest. So it's really amazing. And then this particular Saturday is Pilates Day. It's International Pilates day, the first Saturday of May. And in honor of that, we'll be wrapping up our spring training event. So you, probably too late to join us, to be completely honest, but we'll be doing that. I'm really, really excited. Brad Crowell 5:54  Maybe not. Lesley Logan 5:55  I don't know. Brad Crowell 5:55  If you want to hop in right now. Lesley Logan 5:57  You can. You'll, you'll have a week of replays, still not from today, but I think to the 10th. So you have seven days. So yeah.Brad Crowell 6:03  If you're, if like, you're watching, if you listen to this the day it comes out and you want to figure out what we're talking about, chat to us. Go to opc.me/chat and we'll send you a link to the Spring Training event. There's a few more days. Lesley Logan 6:15  Yeah, it's really, it's been quite a fun week. I'm really thrilled with the whole thing. I mean, it's just really fun to do classes live and like, you get your Pilates habit and routine on, and then you can go back to doing it with Iike, on your own time.Brad Crowell 6:27  I mean, this is kind of a perfect episode to be talking about Spring Training because. Lesley Logan 6:31  It really is. Brad Crowell 6:32  It features all the teachers that you're that you listened to in the last episode.Lesley Logan 6:35  Yeah, if you fell in love with them. Yeah, so they're all part of it. It's really quite amazing. And what's really hilarious is Tami is actually in the house right now, so like when this episode goes out. So she wasn't on that episode, but she's currently in our house filming OPC workouts. At any rate, just the irony of all it. Then this summer, we're actually going on our Summer Tour. And it is cooking, we are getting really, really close to announce the cities and help you snide your tickets, you're going to want them, because West Coast is the location of this tour, which means smaller spaces. It just is, just how it works out. Brad Crowell 7:09  It's true. Lesley Logan 7:09  You know, it's just expensive to have bigger studios in some of these cities. So they'll be smaller spaces, which means you're gonna want to get your tickets. So, opc.me/events, means you're going to get the first updates on the tour and all that stuff. So you'll want to go to opc.me/events. Brad, why don't you chime in? Brad Crowell 7:25  Yeah, if you are taking clients for Pilates and you are trying to figure out how to get more clients, or just how to create stability in this tumultuous time, we're doing a webinar on that. It's called the Growth Accelerator Webinar, and it's free, and I want you to come join me. There's a Q&A option, and I'll be sharing three big secrets that we've learned from coaching 2500 plus businesses just like yours.Lesley Logan 7:51  It's really fun, you guys. It's really amazing. It's like, it's a way for you to understand what Agency is, but also what we believe in the Pilates industry, because there are other people out there, and it's important that you know what the values of the people who are coaching you are, because it needs to align with yours. And we firmly believe in your business working for you. You're not working for it. And so that means that the templates that we use are more formulas versus like and this is how every studio needs to look and this is exactly, this is exactly how your onboarding series goes, and this is how this goes. Brad Crowell 8:21  Yeah, here's the language that you use, no, all that does not work.Lesley Logan 8:23  No, that does not work because you all have different audiences that you want to be talking to, and you're also coming at it from either this is your full time gig, or you want it to be your full time gig, or you have kids and this is your part time gig. Like everyone comes from a different place, so it has to work for you, and that's what we pride ourselves on, is you can really mold what we coach you on to your business. Last up.Brad Crowell 8:42  Last, but not least, my absolute favorite thing in the world to do is to go to Cambodia, and we have a retreat coming up this October, go to crowsnestretreats.com. If you got all to listen to this podcast, you've heard us talk about it a million times. But isn't this the year for you? Isn't this the time? Lesley Logan 8:58  Oh, my goodness, I just wrote a whole email about why you should let us do this and I'm correct. Brad Crowell 9:02  But also like, don't you need a retreat right now? Right now. Do you need a retreat? I do. I'm ready. Lesley Logan 9:08  I actually was looking at our potential flight plans, and one of them would let us go to Vietnam, but it's kind of complicated. We're doing all these other things beforehand, so I want to go to Vietnam, and also kind of want to go to Colombia, which I know is on the other side of the world. So it's different, just different where my head is, but one of the flight plans will let us have a layover, though, to go to Botanical Gardens. Brad Crowell 9:25  Oh, in Korea? Lesley Logan 9:26  In Singapore. Brad Crowell 9:27  Oh, in Singapore. Lesley Logan 9:28  Yeah, we did the Botanical Gardens in Korea. Brad Crowell 9:29  We did do that, yeah.Lesley Logan 9:30  So, but I just pinged you and said hey, there's six hours in the daytime, and so that's an hour. And then we need about. Brad Crowell 9:37  I think we were looking at the Botanical Gardens when we were there last, right? Lesley Logan 9:39  Having dinner, yes, you pointed out, yes, it was closed because we got there close to the eighth. So I think we could do it in four hours. Brad Crowell 9:46  That'd be awesome. Lesley Logan 9:47  Yeah. So anyways, we might skip Vietnam and go there. But here's what I bragged about in my email, what you would get if you were already on our waitlist for this. But I actually wrote about, we're really fucking good at this retreat. We're so good at it. And I say this because a lot of people don't like to brag about things. A lot of people are like, oh, I'm a humble person, no, there are certain things that you do really, really well. Like our friend Vincent unapologetically goes, I make fucking great eggs. I make great eggs. I watched the master class on egg making, and I make great eggs. He's never made us eggs, but I'm just saying he brags about it, right? Like, I'm aware that he makes good eggs, and I've never even had them. What we do really well is create an amazing experience for you. You have nothing to do on this trip but get your plane ticket and let us know when you land, because we will pick you up from the airport. Well, not us, but our driver will pick you up from the airport, and it will bring you to our house. And we have a wonderful schedule that is not going to make you exhausted, but it's also going to make sure you see everything.Brad Crowell 10:38  It includes a lot of free time. You're going to have a chance to chill.Lesley Logan 10:40  Yes, but not so much free time you feel like you didn't do anything so you have to plan something. No, it is a wonderful, the cadence is amazing. I'm telling you, every single person tells us how great the schedule is because we do it well. So if you would like to literally retreat yourself, I promise you, when you are halfway across the world, it's very easy to go, you know what? I could put a pin all that chaos, because I'm over here looking at this beauty, and you can actually, just for the nervous system, it's so freaking good. I could go on forever, but go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot. Brad Crowell 11:10  Yeah, all right. Well, before we get into it, about the teachers, we had a question. Alison Pilates on YouTube asked, hey, I love the 60-minute full Reformer workout. We tried to find the links to the exercises so I could practice and get better at the pace. Where can I find them?Lesley Logan 11:26  Yeah, so you guys on YouTube, we have two full Joseph Pilates ordered workouts. We have the mat one, and we have the Reformer one, and they're both advanced. So I'm just gonna tell you right now, if it's the full order, it's super advanced, right? But at any rate, we have these on there, and it's kind of impossible to link to every single tutorial in the show notes of YouTube. I mean, I guess we can, but you can't click them, and there would be 79 exercises to click to. So actually, what you want to do is download the OPC app. It's free. You don't have to be an OPC member. Can download the app, and then you can go to the tutorials, and you can click on the Reformer, and they're all right there. They're all right there. And that way you can review the exercises you're not so familiar with, so you can learn them. And then when you take this workout again, you can be faster at it, or you can omit exercises not right for your body. That particular workout, I did all the super advanced back bends and headstands and all the things, and what I would just say is, even in my own workout, I don't do all of them. I pick two or three, but I did them all so that there is a place where this workout exists. I'm really excited that you guys are loving it, but, yeah, get the app. That's the best place. Brad Crowell 12:30  Yeah, the other thing you can do is, if you just want a list of links to the order, you can Google onlinepilatesclasses.com reformer order and a blog post will come up. We did make a post that has. Lesley Logan 12:43  That's linked. Brad Crowell 12:44  I don't know if it's exactly the same as the 60-minute YouTube video you were talking about, probably is, but. Lesley Logan 12:50  No, I can confirm. Brad Crowell 12:52  Lesley is confirming it's the same. So just Google onlinepilatesclasses.com reformer order, and you'll find the blog post that actually links directly to each one. Lesley Logan 13:02  So, thank you, Alison Pilates. I hope you enjoy that. And also, by the way, if you want to actually get better at the pace and the exercises, I highly recommend you actually just be I'm an OPC member, because at OPC, we don't do the super advanced exercises. We do more of the all level exercises, but you get to nerd out on a particular exercise and see how it works throughout the Reformer and on the mat, and we work at pace, and it's really fun. And then you can actually send me a video of you doing an exercise and I'll give you feedback on your form. There you go. Okay.Brad Crowell 13:32  Great job. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this amazing and super fun convo that Lesley had with all the OPC teachers, where actually, I got to know them better than I've ever known them. I didn't know any of these stories, so I'm really looking forward to chatting about it. Stick around. Brad Crowell 13:48  All right. Welcome back. So let's talk about Rachel Piper, Mindi Westfall, Christine Kam-Lynch, Megan Lauman and Yasmin Scholten. Only one missing was Tami-Adrian George, but we have a dedicated episode. Lesley Logan 14:01  Just for her. Brad Crowell 14:01  Just for her. Lesley Logan 14:02  She's got a lot we all talk about. Brad Crowell 14:04  She's got a lot going on. These five incredible women are part of the dedicated teachers at OPC. Each brings something unique to the mat, blending a deep love for learning with personal experiences that show how Pilates can transform your body and your life. Christine balances a full-time tech career while teaching Pilates. Mindi, known as “Bendy Mindi Pilates” on Instagram, continued Pilates after undergoing microdiscectomy, and now helps others find strength in their flexibility. Rachel a proud quote-unquote mat rat with a biotech background.Lesley Logan 14:39  I love that she's a mat rat with a biotech background. Brad Crowell 14:42  I've never even heard that term.Lesley Logan 14:43  I know, but I really think is there just a better animal? Brad Crowell 14:46  All right, well, so she has a biotech background. She still works in science and teams and all the things. She brings her love of themes and creative expression to every single class. Megan, a mother of four, based in Missouri, discover Pilates as a way to heal her body and now teaches from her home studio. And Yasmin, based in Germany, left corporate life to open a home studio in her small town where she grew up. Okay, I just want to put this out there right away, before everybody else asks, how do I become a teacher on onlinepilatesclasses.com? This is what, we get asked this all the time. Here's the truth of it. All five of these women who are on this interview were already OPC members. They were already participating. They were already changing their life with the consistency of their practice and using OPC to do it. And that's how we met them. Like I mean, there's other ways we actually met them, some of them outside of there, but that's how we got to know them. That's how it began to make sense. They were asking all these questions. They were participating, and it was a very organic opportunity, over the years to invite them to teach, because they actually care about the community. That's the thing that matters for us. Lesley Logan 15:52  Yeah, like you said, I've had, I still always have people who ask, and it's like, if you're not in the community participating, then it's really hard for us to get the community to want to take your class. And then the other thing I'll just say is, even if you're coming to join and be part of the community, we're not hiring all the time. So, yes, join because we want you to be a part of it, but join for you, not because of that goal. And then the other thing I want us to be like every single one of these girls has done eLevate, my mentorship program, so that we're all in the same page, so even though we're taking our own experiences and our own bodies and our own way of feeling the exercise in our body, but they all understand how Joseph Pilates created this stuff and gave it to Jay and his teachers taught me and all the stuff. So, are we looking for more teachers? Not this time, because we're really focused on the community and growing the community, but I would love to see you in the community, because I think why a lot of people want to be a teacher on the platform is because they want to be part of something. And I can tell you right now, even if you're not on the platform teaching it, when you're in the community, you're absolutely part of something. And that is something I'm so proud of, our members who share things. People know each other's name, even though they've never met. And people do connect in in-person events that we have, and then they hang out without us. There are eight women who take OPC classes at the same time on Wednesdays, at 8 a.m. and they're not teachers on this platform, but they are teachers. And so I just want to say OPC was never designed just for teachers, it'sdesigned for everybody, but I think that most people just want to, because they want to be part of something. You could be part of something without the commitment of figuring out your lighting and making sure your camera is straight. Brad Crowell 17:32  That is, that's the thing. Lesley Logan 17:33  And that your mic is actually working. Because sometimes you film an entire workout that is unusable. Brad Crowell 17:37  And I love, I think the thing I love the most about OPC is that once a month we do a live mat class, and after the mat class is over, everybody just hangs out and they just talk, and they get to update each other on different things about life, and it's been. Lesley Logan 17:55  We just celebrated, like a couple girls just finished their exams, so that was really fun. We know that from the hangout sessions, and then we know some of us picked up their kids from college and did spring break with them. Like it's kind of fun to know what everyone is doing. Brad Crowell 18:08  It's actually a community of people who care about each other. And we started doing it in COVID, and we just never stopped, because it's rad. Lesley Logan 18:17  Yeah. And also, to be honest, if I could record all of the OPC workouts I have to film with OPC members being there, I would do it. I would so do it. But the reality is, life happens, and we're like, oh, let's, we're moving this around. People will just be so confused. So, at any rate. But let's get into this episode. Brad Crowell 18:34  Yeah, absolutely. Lesley Logan 18:35  So, hold on. Brad Crowell 18:36  Take us away. Lesley Logan 18:37  All right. There's so many things to love, but Christine mentioned something that I really wanted to point out. She said there's something about being on the apparatus, apparatuses, the apparati, anyways, the apparatuses, the equipment that makes me feel connected inside. And I couldn't agree more, like I think it's just a fun way to get to know yourself. I think it's really difficult, because today there's this trend in the industry where everyone is over correcting all the time and cueing a lot, and so you don't always have time in your body, which is why I really appreciate how great our teachers are telling you how many reps, and giving you a rep to be by yourself, and giving you permission to change the exercise if you need to. And I think that allows you to have that connection. Brad Crowell 19:21  But what if you're doing it wrong? Lesley Logan 19:23  Oh my God, you're not gonna die. You're not gonna die. Most of the time, people doing it wrong are just doing choreography, and so they're like, this is too easy. I don't get it. That's most of it like, very rarely are people doing it so wrong they could hurt, no, no, obviously, if you're working with spring. Brad Crowell 19:38  Jay's quote here.Lesley Logan 19:40  Oh, Jay always says, "Ugly Pilates, get used to it. Dangerous Pilates, never." And so of course, we don't want you to do dangerous Pilates, but a lot of times people are doing exercises they're not ready for, that would be dangerous, so you got to be careful. But that's why I love our OPC teachers always reminding people to, that it's brave and courageous to do something else. Also, Christine mentioned that she loves taking from the other teachers, because she she actually gets different cues or different ideas or different connections from the different teachers. Because when I was picking teachers for the platform, I think it's so important, we one day, like, actually put our inseams on a list. Because we're like, well, maybe we should let all the members know what equipment we have, so that they can maybe set their equipment up, our equipment, or whatever. And then, well, should we let them know how tall we are, and then it's like, well, we're tall, but some of us have longer legs, so that we need a measure of everything. So anyways, Christine is one of our fun size teachers, and so it's really fun, because she can understand different things, even for her body, while working with the taller teachers. But I know that our members who are fun size love taking with Christine, because, like, oh, that's how Christine does it. Okay, great. So it's kind of fun. Mindi also said that she loves learning from the other teachers, but she said learning from the other teachers is one of the most important things I can do for myself and also for my own practice, because I learn something new every single time I take someone's class. And I think that that's what is so fun. Because a lot of people are like, oh, use the order. That's boring. No, it's not boring. Because if you're truly doing the workout and not wanting to be entertained, it doesn't even feel like it's something you've done before. It feels like you're having a new exploration. Because your body is different depending on what time of day you work out, depending on what you did the day before. Brad Crowell 21:17  Definitely, day to day it's different. Lesley Logan 21:18  Today, my mat class, I have my own mat workout today, slayed it. Slayed it. I was so strong. I felt so good. It's not how I always felt. So anyways, I just really appreciate that even our teachers. Brad Crowell 21:30  Hey, good job, babe. Lesley Logan 21:31  Thank you. On this Couple Appreciation.Brad Crowell 21:33  We're celebrating the national couple's day. Lesley Logan 21:35  Yes, I won't cook dinner, though, it's okay. I'll go get it. I mean, really, it would just be tater tots. I'm really good at those sweet potato ones, specifically, everyone. I really like that. With those two teachers, both mentioned how much they love learning from the other people, and I think that's what makes it so fun. Because even if you're not a teacher, just imagine how much you're going to learn. What did you love? Brad Crowell 21:57  Well, when Rachel was talking about consistency, okay, here's the thing about what Rachel was talking about that I connected to OPC, and it made me happy. When we were brainstorming OPC, we were trying to figure out, how do we compete with other platforms that have thousands and thousands of videos, and it made me think of Netflix, and it made me realize I never get to watch anything because I spent too much time trying to figure trying to figure out what to watch that by the time I'm ready to watch whatever I picked, I don't have any more time. So we said, well, how could we do that for OPC? We kept the class options small on purpose, and that really lends itself to consistency. Just being able to log in, click play and go. Another thing I thought was really interesting, and Mindi talked about this too, but Rachel only kind of realized that she's hypermobile recently, like in the last couple of years, and that, I think for me, it was blatantly obvious I've been able to bend my body like crazy. Lesley Logan 22:55  I think, but also because a lot of people think that hypermobility, you like, super hyperextend your joints and like, your elbows and your knees, but you can be hypermobile in some joints and not other joints, and it doesn't have to look extreme.Brad Crowell 23:11  Sure, you could just be hyperextending. That's still hypermobility, right, hyperextending. What's really great is that, when Rachel shared her story she was talking about everyone told her, by the time you're in your 40s, you're going to need your knees replaced, and because she was doing Pilates before going to see a doctor, now they said, hey, you've been protecting yourself by doing Pilates all these years, so you don't need a knee replacement. And that's insane. That's amazing. I love that. That's incredible. Lesley Logan 23:38  Did you know that the knee replacements are through the roof with how many people are needing today versus decades ago, and women will need them more than men. And it's actually not because of how we walk, because people in tribes don't need knee replacements. It's because we have a lack of strength balance between our hamstrings and our thighs, quads, outer hips, and so when you don't have that kind of a balance, your joints don't operate in the same way and you're demanding muscles to do support of things that need other help. And so that is why knees are not working the way. Brad Crowell 24:12  Interesting. Lesley Logan 24:12  Yeah, it's a whole thing. Do your hamstring curls on your Reformer, everyone, or if you don't have a Reformer, do your single leg kick with precision.Brad Crowell 24:20  What she said when Megan was sharing, it was really great to listen to her talk about her family, and I got really excited to hear her talk about her partner, and we know.Lesley Logan 24:30  That's because you love him. Brad Crowell 24:31  Well, his name's Adam, he's rad. But it was what I thought was so cool, was that the two are very intentional about tagging each other in tagging each other out. They've four kids, y'all. So you know, there's a lot going on all the time, yet in the chaos of just life, they still are intentional about setting aside time for themselves individually, which is when Megan gets to do her practice. And that's awesome. I think that's really great. One thing that I also really appreciated was she said she was really encouraged about how inclusive OPC is, and we're talking all forms of inclusivity here. The mix of teachers are working full time in another business, all the way to teaching Pilates full time, different sizes, shapes, bodies, color, different areas of the world, different backgrounds. Lesley Logan 25:22  And also, you know, here I am. I don't have children, so it's really easy for me to say. Brad Crowell 25:26  Right, moms know moms.Lesley Logan 25:27  You, it's really easy for me to say, be consistent. But I love that I was able to find people in our community who are also amazing teachers. Megan has four kids. Not just four kids, she's got two kids who are teenagers. And then two, well, I think a third is a teenager, one's about to be, with two special needs. Rachel talked about her son. And then Yasmin has kids. We have a few, and then Tami has a kid who, she got into college. So, like, they're all in different life paths, too. And so I really wanted. Brad Crowell 25:55  Dog moms on their runners. Lesley Logan 25:56  Yeah, single versus married. Like, I really wanted people who join OPC to see themselves in at least one teacher, if not a few teachers, like, oh, I have a full time job too. Christine and Rachel do. Not that the rest of us aren't full time guys, but, like a nine to five. There's a difference within a nine to five. Brad Crowell 26:13  They're also teaching in addition to their full time job. So, you know, so, so you're not alone. Just the diversity of all of that really does make it inclusive. There's an opportunity to see yourself in at least one of the teachers, and so we hope that you also are making that connection and enjoying that. And then when Yasmin was sharing her story, she actually talked about how damaged her body was after a career sitting at a desk, and it was causing a lot of pain for her, and she found Pilates as a, I guess, part, partly as rehab, but, but now today, that's like she's dedicated her entire life to it. She, you know, got certified, and then eventually quit her corporate job. And she said the thing that she loved the most about OPC was that it's a sense of not being alone in her home studio, which, you know, she's inherently alone, and once she can tap into OPC, she can participate in a community that's all over the world and is really supportive and encouraging. And, you know, I just love that. I think that's great. Lesley Logan 27:14  I love that she talked about construction sites. She was referring to, like, you know, we all have struggles in our bodies, and she called them construction sites. And I was like, you know, I just feel like when you learn English as a second language, there's just a better way of saying the things that you are working on it, you're putting something together, you're building something. Brad Crowell 27:30  Yeah, that was pretty cute, that was really cute.Lesley Logan 27:31  Yeah, I can't we're gonna see her in person in September.Brad Crowell 27:33  Oh, I'm very much looking forward to that. Oh, yeah, when we come to the UK. In fact, y'all, the person who is coming from the EU is Yasmin, the teacher. So come meet her. Come meet us. That'd be a lot of fun. Anyway, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into some really juicy Be It Action Items that shared from this plethora of wisdom and knowledge that we have on these OPC teachers platform. So stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 27:58  Welcome back. Let's dig into this bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted Be It Action Items from your convo with all these lovely ladies. I'm gonna jump in first here. Christine mentioned that she treats movement like snacks. And I thought that was brilliant. I thought that was such a great visual, because if you're working and you're hungry, what do you do? You reach in the drawer and you grab a Slim Jim. Maybe not Slim Jim, but you know, you grab a jerky snack.Lesley Logan 28:26  I'd go for Chomps, but they're not sponsoring this, but it's about meat. Brad Crowell 28:28  Yeah or whatever, or you grab, hopefully it's not just pure sugar, but I love the idea of treating movement like a snack. What if you just got up and did a quick lap around the office? What if you?Lesley Logan 28:39  We did a movement snack yesterday. We were kind of like head funk, and we went outside and just walked around one block. And you know what, guys, it felt great. And then you do push ups while you're waiting for your coffee. Brad Crowell 28:50  Push ups with my coffee often, if I feel sluggish, if I feel that afternoon tiredness, I will just go do a handstand against the wall, and I'm not even trying to balance. The whole goal of it is to get blood flow back into my brain. Lesley Logan 29:04  If you're thinking about your heart, it's youth, fountain of youth. Brad Crowell 29:07  Yeah. So I love this idea of thinking of it like a snack. It actually makes it even easier to go do brilliant. So, love that. Great job. Mindi talked about taking messy action. That is something that we've been saying.Lesley Logan 29:19  Something that she didn't say on this podcast, but Mindi has the entire intro memorized of the Be It Pod. So, yeah.Brad Crowell 29:25  Yeah, Mindyi's amazing, but, but taking messy action, right? How often have we talked about that here? And I love that that's something that she lives by and she thinks about all the time, because it kind of takes away the fear of whatever the thing is. It's allowed to be messy. It doesn't have to be perfect. We're not doing brain surgery here. So it doesn't have, necessarily have to be perfect the first time, right? That's not that common. So it's okay to get your feet wet, get started and figure it out as you go for most things. And I love that when it comes to movement, when it comes to Pilates, we can apply that, obviously. So, love that. Great job, Mindi. What's your biggest takeaway?Lesley Logan 30:05  Okay, we had a few. So, Rachel said don't show up for anyone else, but you. And I do love that. And I will say, if you have a hard time being selfish, then think about the problem you are going to be for the people you love, because you won't be able to go up the stairs. And then if that makes you do it, then that's great, because I really do agree with that. And I also think some people have a really hard time showing up for themselves, but I agree we all have to get to that place. You have to love yourself enough to show up for you. Megan said find a way. Find a way to prioritize self-care, movement, even just a, find a way, there's always a way. So, I agree. And then Yasmin said the root of the goal is not to be perfect in this moment and just do your workout practicing with the teacher. And I like that. So it's like, the only thing I have to work on today is being with the teacher, just moving with this class. What if you were not, like, I gotta get this teaser today, you know, so and then to find confidence in your body. And I think that's really, really sweet. And I think, you know, no one is Googling, like, how to have confidence in my body, but I do think a lot of people lack confidence in themselves. They come off very confident, and they come off very self-sufficient, and they come off as they're able to highly function and do all these amazing things, but they actually don't trust how they feel, and they don't have a mind body connection, and that's something we really want to achieve at OPC. And so here's the deal, Pilates Day is a Saturday. There's a reason why this episode is coming out this week. We wanted to celebrate this amazing holiday that's coming up that has given us an amazing career. And truly, we're doing it with the most amazing people doing this. But also we want you to do Pilates with us. A lot of you who listen and you go to an in-person studio, OPC can be the supplement. If you're only doing Reformer Pilates, you can do the mat work with us. Because if you actually want to see what, you're superly capable of. Superly capable of. Brad Crowell 31:45  I was wondering what word that was. Lesley Logan 31:47  I like it. Superly capable of. Brad Crowell 31:48  Superly capable of. Lesley Logan 31:49  It's like now there's a ring to it.Brad Crowell 31:50  Let's all be superbly capable of.Lesley Logan 31:53  Superbly capable of, you know, you need to get on the mat. It is hard, and if it's easy, you're not doing it right, which is why you have to join OPC so we can, actually, can submit a video of you doing an exercise, and I can tell you like, oh, actually, your feet go here, or this goes here. So, you guys, go to onlinepilatesclasses.com and join us. You can join us for 40 days for $40 and you get to take classes from these amazing people, and Tami, and you can be part of this amazing community. You heard him. Brad Crowell 32:20  And Lesley. Lesley Logan 32:21  And me, I'm teaching. I teach 40% of the classes. I'm like, every other week. You don't get away from me. Also, feel like I won't use it. I know me. No, we have accountability. We take classes away so you do show up for you. And you can help, you can find people in the community that will hold you accountable. You go, okay, I'm gonna do it on Tuesday who wants to do it with me? Brad Crowell 32:38  Look, I just want to say we are all doing Pilates, right? But at OPC, we actually have a process, okay, and that process includes our big three. We call them the three C's, consistency, community and connection, right? And we help you follow our process, which helps you maintain that consistency. Lesley Logan 32:59  Well, when we created this, and Brad's like I want to do this, I said, well, I love what people experience when they go take class together. I really love that there's that I've got to show up because the class is at x time and I'm going to see x people. Like, I love that, right? But if you miss that class, then you like, might go a week before you get to take class again. And I hate that. And so it's like, how can I have the accountability of an in-person class and the community of in-person, but the accessibility of a chaotic life. And so that is why every single Tuesday, a new class drops, an old class goes away, and you have access to that new class for two weeks. So there's always a couple to choose from. So if you're like, I didn't really understand that teacher, you don't have to worry about it. There's another teacher's classes up there. So it's really great. And you get to, when you say, I took class, I took Hippy Ki-Yay, people know what you're talking about, because they're all taking Hippy Ki-Yay, no one is like, oh my God, from five years ago. I just want to say this community.Brad Crowell 33:52  That's what makes this community really fun is because when people like, oh, I finally got the roll up when so and so is teaching. You know what they're talking about, because you're taking the same class as them and you're like, oh, yeah, that was the moment. So it really brings people together. And all that was by design, and we're really proud of that, because when people follow the process, they win. You win, and we want that for you. Lesley Logan 34:14  Just go to onlinepilatesclasses.com. Check it out. Sign up for the trial membership and get into the community. Send me a video.Brad Crowell 34:21  Join us for live class. Lesley Logan 34:22  You know, if you love this podcast, you're gonna love the community, I promise you that. And then the OPC app, which is for you, you can listen to this podcast, you can see tutorials, and you can communicate in the community. So Bayon is really excited for you to join us too, if you heard that from the way, way back of this house. And until next time loves, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 34:42  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 34:44  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Managing ADHD naturally can feel overwhelming, but what if there were powerful plant-based remedies that could help? In this episode of The Soaring Child Podcast, host Dana Kay explores the best herbs for ADHD, breaking down the science behind how they support focus, reduce stress, and regulate emotions. She covers research-backed benefits of herbs like Rhodiola Rosea, OPCs, ginkgo, and ginseng—offering practical strategies for incorporating them into your child's routine. Dana Kay, a leading ADHD health practitioner, has helped thousands of families find natural, effective solutions for ADHD symptoms. In this episode, she provides a clear, no-fluff guide to using herbs safely and effectively. Whether you're new to natural remedies or looking to refine your child's supplement plan, this episode is packed with actionable insights you won't want to miss! Make sure and grab your Herbs for ADHD Cheat Sheet at the link provided!  Links Mentioned in the Show:  Functional Lab Testing Video -  https://info.adhdthriveinstitute.com/lab-testing-for-adhd1  My Favorite Place to Buy Supplements - http://adhdthriveinstitute.com/supplements  My Favorite Herbs that are Mentioned in this Episode: Rhodiola Rosea - https://shop.adhdthriveinstitute.com/rhodiola-rosea.html  OPC - https://shop.adhdthriveinstitute.com/curcumasorb-mind-60-capsules.html  Ginkgo - https://amzn.to/4ij9EK1  Ginseng - https://amzn.to/4ihGDye  Herbs for ADHD Cheat Sheet - https://info.adhdthriveinstitute.com/supplement-for-adhd-herbs  Links to Previous Episodes in this Supplements for ADHD Series: Magnesium -  https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/podcast/soaring-child-episode-93/  Saffron - https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/podcast/soaring-child-episode-136/  GABA - https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/podcast/soaring-child-episode-137/  L-Theanine - https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/podcast/soaring-child-episode-142/  Bio Essentials - https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/podcast/soaring-child-episode-144/  Omegas - ​​ https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/podcast/soaring-child-episode-146/  Iron - https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/podcast/soaring-child-episode-148/  Vitamin D - https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/podcast/soaring-child-episode-150/  Zinc - https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/podcast/soaring-child-episode-152/  Zembrin -  https://adhdthriveinstitute.com/podcast/soaring-child-episode-154/  Key Takeaways: [3:04] Overview of Rhodiola Rosea and Its Benefits [3:49] Scientific Studies on Rhodiola for ADHD [4:23] How to Choose and Use Rhodiola Safely [8:45] Introduction to OPCs and Their Brain-Boosting Effects [9:14] The Role of OPCs in Strengthening the Blood-Brain Barrier [10:15] How OPCs Improve Cognitive Function and Focus [13:10] Ginkgo & Ginseng: Natural Stimulant Alternatives [14:15] Key Considerations Before Using Herbs for ADHD [14:52] Final Thoughts and Actionable Next Steps Memorable Moments: "Herbs are powerful plant-based remedies that could sharpen focus, reduce stress, and support emotional regulation—and most people completely overlook them." "Rhodiola is like a built-in stress shield for the brain. It helps calm that chaos, sharpen focus, and smooth out emotional roller coasters." "In just one week, people taking Rhodiola felt less stressed, more focused, and mentally sharper." "Rhodiola was compared to the antidepressant sertraline, also known as Zoloft. While sertraline had stronger effects, Rhodiola had fewer side effects and was better tolerated." "Research shows Rhodiola may enhance memory and learning by helping neurons in the brain communicate better." "OPCs are antioxidants found in blueberries, grapes, and dark chocolate, and they help protect the brain while strengthening the blood-brain barrier." "One study found that drinking blueberry juice, which is rich in OPC flavanols, for 12 weeks improved working memory, blood flow to the brain, and cognitive performance in adults." "Ginkgo and ginseng act like stimulants without the side effects, and studies show they may help improve attention and dopamine levels in kids with ADHD." "Herbs are powerful, even though they're natural. They can interact with medications, so always consult a professional." "There is no one-size-fits-all approach. Functional lab testing can help determine which nutrients and herbs your child actually needs." Dana Kay Resources:

This community-centered episode features real stories from five OPC teachers who integrate Pilates into their lives while managing careers, parenting, and personal challenges. Lesley Logan is joined by Mindi Westfall, Rachel Piper, Christine Kam-Lynch, Megan Lauman, and Yasmin Scholten to share how Pilates helped them reclaim time, build strength, and stay grounded. Their journeys reveal just how accessible and empowering consistent movement can be. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why OPC was built to be inclusive and community-driven.How each teacher found Pilates and what made them stick with it.The unexpected ways Pilates supports parenting and mental health. Why you don't need a full hour or fancy gear to build your strength.How the OPC teachers show up as both students and leaders.Episode References/Links:Meet the OPC Teachers - https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/teachersOPC on Instagram - https://instagram.com/opc.pilatesMindi Westfall - https://instagram.com/bendymindipilatesRachel Piper - https://instagram.com/size_diverse_pilatesChristine Kam-Lynch - https://instagram.com/pilates.boundMegan Lauman - https://instagram.com/megans_pilatesYasmin Scholten - https://instagram.com/purapilates_yasminGuest Bio:This powerhouse panel of Pilates teachers—Christine Kam-Lynch, Megan Lauman, Mindi Westfall, Rachel Piper, and Yasmin Scholten—brings a vibrant mix of passion, precision, and personality to the practice. Christine, a third-generation teacher and tech program manager, fuses straight-shooting cues with contagious joy. Megan blends classical roots with modern training to inspire confidence and consistency in movement. Mindi draws from her sports and injury recovery background to help others find relief and strength through Pilates. Rachel, founder of Size Diverse Pilates, champions inclusivity and creates welcoming spaces for every body, especially those who've felt unseen. Yasmin, a former economist turned studio owner in Germany, brings a global perspective and an uplifting spirit to her classes. Collectively, they represent the evolving heart of Pilates—meeting people where they are and helping them move with purpose, pride, and playfulness. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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What I mean by inclusive is we're not expecting everybody's body to do the same thing. We're just honest, real and inclusive. It's inviting for everybody.Lesley Logan 0:10  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:53  Hey, Be It babe. You know, you might not know this. You probably hear about OPC all the time, but you probably have never like heard the people who are part of OPC, and so I wanted to take some time to share some of the OPC teachers with you. One, it's an excuse for all of us to get together. And two, more importantly, I think it's really important for us all to hear people who are like us and the journey that they went on. You probably know how important Pilates is to me. It really is how I be it till I see it every single day, like, the time that I am doing in my Pilates practice is how I can tell where I am in my life and how I'm feeling about myself and what's going on. And when I created OPC, it was so you could too. Just so we're on the same page, onlinepilatesclasses.com equals OPC. You'll hear different terms in this interview with the different teachers, and one of those is FFF, Form Feedback Fridays, and that's just us giving feedback to our members. And you'll hear about the live classes that we have, and you'll hear about the accountability in the community that we have. But the goal here is, you could hear a person who's got a job like yours, or similar to yours, or a life like yours. You know, when I created OPC, it was just me, but the goal was not always just me, and as I added teachers from our community, we have something very similar, but also we're very different, whether it was height or age or body type or lifestyle, or where we live in the world, or the journey that we've come on. I could have talked to each one of these teachers for an hour on their own. So, you know, if you like this episode and you have more questions for these teachers, let me know, and I'll bring them back on. We are missing Tami. Our schedules didn't align. It's kind of hard to get seven busy women with, I don't know six different time zones together, but we'll bring Tami on for her own special episode, of course. Together, all seven of us teachers are, there's seven including me, have over 8 or something years of teaching experience. And, so know that you are in good hands, and know that we don't ever expect you to aspire to look like us in any exercise. We only want you to be you. And I couldn't think of a better group of people to talk about being it till you see it, than just these women who had a whole life before they found Pilates, and they're living these busy lives now, and they're prioritizing that. So here is several of the OPC teachers, Mindy, Rachel, Christine, Yasmin and Megan. And I really hope you enjoy this. And if you have friends who've been thinking about Pilates and wanting to try it out or have extra accessibility, I hope that they take a look at OPC. There you go. Lesley Logan 3:42  All right, Be It babe, I am, I've got a party for you. It's an actual, true party. I'm not gonna lie. And we have a lot of different voices on here. So if you're hearing a bunch of women like talk with each other, join us in your car, at your coffee shop, on your walk, just like talk out, talk out loud with us. We'd have the conversation with us. Today, I'm joined by many of the OPC teachers, not all of the OPC teachers, and we thought it'd be really fun. One, we never can get together, all of us with our time zones. And you'll hear we're missing a brilliant voice in this conversation. So I'll have to have Tami on another day, but you'll hear the voices of these different teachers. And so we'll start off. I'm just gonna call people out for their introductions, and they're like freaking out right now, but okay, I'll tell you all who's here. We have Mindi Westfall. We have Yasmin Scholten. We have Rachel Piper. We have Megan Lauman. We have Christine Kam-Lynch and Tami-Adrian is in our hearts and our souls always. These are the amazing OPC teachers. Christine, I'm gonna call on you first. I'm so sorry, but you're, you are probably really good with a PowerPoint and so you probably have a good way of introducing yourself. Can you tell everyone a little bit about who you are, what you rock at, how did you get into Pilates?Christine Kam-Lynch 4:52  Yeah, Hi, I'm Christine Kam-Lynch, and teaching Pilates is actually a second job for me. Surprise, surprise. I am actually a technology program manager working in IT space and security. So really, techy nerd in some ways, or at least working with a lot of people that I work, I bring together. Sorry, LL, I already forgot your question.Lesley Logan 5:15  Just how you got into Pilates, but I love that you, what I'm so excited about, you guys is, if you hear her, she's like a total tech nerd, like one of the big ones. And I also say her last name wrong all the time, it's Kam-Lynch, not Cam-Lynch. So, noted. Okay, how did you get into Pilates, though? Also, I just want to say, if you're not watching the YouTube video of this, Christina is one of our fun size teachers. So I think that's important to bring up because.Christine Kam-Lynch 5:20  I'm standing right now.Lesley Logan 5:43  No, you're not. No, she's not. But maybe, how tall are you and how did you get into Pilates? Christine Kam-Lynch 5:50  I am five feet, and I practiced Pilates to stay at five feet. How did I get into Pilates? You know, when I moved to California from the East Coast, I saw a lot of people doing things, and I don't think you really see that on the East Coast. I think we're, like, all bundled up a lot because it's cold half a year that I don't think I paid attention. And so moving out here, I tried, like, everything, a lot of people do yoga out here and Pilates is just one of those looking into a studio space, like, what are all those toys in there? Like, I want to play on this playground. That's how I discovered it. And there's something about being on the apparatuses that makes me feel connected inside that I would hear words, but I don't understand the words. I'm like, okay, maybe one of these days it'll make sense and something will click. Well, the click happened on the apparatuses. And so that was my journey from like, one day a week to two days a week to three days a week to four days a week. And then my husband was like, oh my God, what is happening? I'm like, all the good things. All the good things has happened. Fast forward, I don't know, maybe 10 years later, the program was set up in a way that I could do teaching. The first part was mat and I finished thinking, I'll just teach mat, because that's about like all I can wrap my head around. And what's funny is that all of my students, my guinea pigs, who all helped me, had asked me, what's that over there in the studio? When do we get to go there? And I'm like, oh, crap, I didn't think that far ahead. I guess, I guess I need to continue the training program and so I did.Lesley Logan 6:14  I love that that's so cool. I love that their curiosity helped you go do more things because you're so good at what you do. We're gonna talk more about you, for sure. But I want to go to the other spectrum. And I can't decide if it's Mindi or Rachel. So Mindi's hair is taller than Rachel's so it will be Mindi first and then Rachel, as far as height goes on our teaching team. Mindi tell everyone who you are and what brought you into Pilates? Mindi Westfall 8:12  Yes, so I'm Mindi Westfall, and if you're out in Instagram world, I'm Bendy Mindi Pilates. So that actually tells a little bit about my Pilates journey, because I am hyper mobile and super bendy. So Pilates has helped me find my strength and my flexibility. But I actually started, oh gosh, I got on my first reformer in like 2005 because my mom was doing Pilates after she retired from teaching PE and she called me and was like, you have to try this. And I was like, well, at the time, I was living in Oregon, working at Nike, and Nike has state of the art facilities, and of course, they had a Pilates studio. So I went in and was like, alright, how do I get on one of those? Christine was like, what's that? You know. So took a couple classes there, and I was like, this is amazing. So after my Nike journey, I went back home to the St Louis area and went to the same studio my mom was going to and just really fell in love all over again. And at the time, I had some back issues, a bulging disc, and so I went through and did Pilates and tried to fix it, and unfortunately, it was only fixable with surgery. So I did a micro dissectomy and fixed the disc, and my orthopedic surgeon went to the same Pilates studio, and so he was like, okay, so you just need to go to Mary and continue your Pilates, and you'll be good to go. And I literally was out of pain and back into strengthening pretty quickly. And so that was just the journey of why Pilates was good for my body. I'm a former athlete. I'm 5'11" so I played volleyball in college. And wear and tear on my body, I really wish I would have had Pilates when I was playing, because I think it would have helped, and maybe I wouldn't have had so many things happening. But from there, I just kept doing Pilates, and then in 2019 I got my certification. So probably 2018 I'm trying to do mat in my head. But for my 40th birthday, my parents bought me Teacher Training Program. Lesley Logan 10:17  What a cool gift. Those are great. But we love your parents anyways, but those are so great. And I agree, like, I think if I got to take a stab at my running career after Pilates, and I got, not only I got five more years out of that career, I actually won races, which I never did pre-Pilates, pre-retirement. And so I thought it was pretty cool that, like, I could come out of retirement and be better than I was. So I do credit. I think everyone should do it if they're doing sports. Okay, so, Rachel Piper, is Mindi taller than you? Are you the same height? What are we?Rachel Piper 10:46  She's taller than I am. I'm 5'9".Lesley Logan 10:51  Oh, we're the same height. You feel taller to me. Okay, well, you feel taller to me. Anyways. Rachel Piper 10:57  Well, I have a presence. Lesley Logan 10:58  That's so true. It's so true. Rachel, how did you get into Pilates? Because you're like Christine, you live a whole other life during the daytime. Rachel Piper 11:07  Yeah, I feel like we, there are so many similarities between all of us. So I'm in biotech, that's my day job, and I was also a three sport athlete in high school and in college, and I'm also hyper mobile, but I didn't actually know that until about two years ago. And that's kind of a big thing for me. I went looking for yoga because my kiddo was about six years old and I was having trouble getting up off the floor. My knees hurt. Everyone I talked to said you're probably going to need new knees by the time you're 40. And let me tell you, with Pilates, now 46, and I do not need new knees. Okay, like that fixed me. But it's that consistency around Pilates that really, really helps. And like I said, it wasn't until maybe 18 months or two years ago that I actually realized that I was hyper mobile, and when I went in, they gave me a list of things like, Oh, this is what you can do for this. And you're also already doing it, so you're already sort of been fixing yourself for all these years, which I think is just a great testament to the entire Pilates method, yeah, but my journey was, I was a complete and total mat rat when I first started Pilates. Lesley Logan 12:25  Yes, but we should all take up space for the mat rats, because now no one wants to be a mat rat. Rachel Piper 12:30  I honestly don't get it, and teaching people how to teach mat is like, one of my favorite things to do. Like, honestly, I'm like, everyone should be on the mat. There are all of these opportunities for props. I know we'll talk about that later, but I was a mat rat. I did the teacher training, and I was like, I think maybe I'm just going to do this for myself, because I'm a nerd, you know, I'm in biotech. Pilates nerd as well. So I think I'm just going to do the mat teacher training and just for me, so that I understand what the heck has been going on and how this has changed my body. And then the next thing I know, I have a Reformer Tower, a Chair, like all the things, and I've made it through training. Lesley Logan 13:11  There's like, the addiction is real, and also, like, totally fine, because some people, they have other, they're like knitters, or they're into Beanie Babies or whatever, right? And we're like, no, I'm just gonna buy a piece of equipment that will last my lifetime, you know, it's a great investment. Christine Kam-Lynch 13:27  And beyond. Lesley Logan 13:28  And beyond, and beyond. It will be here. Right, right. You're totally right, Christine, because one of my girlfriends, unfortunately, her mentor passed, and all of that equipment is now living on 40 years later with other people. So there it is. Okay, more to chat with Rachel, but of course, we're gonna go to Megan, and then we'll go international to Yasmeen. So Megan, tell us everything about you.Megan Lauman 13:48  Everything? Lesley Logan 13:49  No, at least just your Pilates journey. Megan Lauman 13:51  Okay, well, I'm Megan, and I'm in the middle of the United States, in St Louis. I'm a mother of four. And so for me, it was looking for the thing that gives me some time for me so I could be the best mom I could be. And that became running like the minute my first was born. So I've been a runner for 18 years now, and so I ran and ran and ran, and that was like the time that I could breathe. And then suddenly my hips were hurting and my knees were hurting, and I was seeing the chiropractor, and I was seeing a physical therapist, and whatever I could do to feel well. And then I stumbled upon a YouTube video of mat Pilates, and also became a mat rat. So I would, became obsessed with mat, and I was like, there's no reason to go to physical therapy. I'm doing the same things here on the mat that they were having me do, only I loved it, and I felt so good. And so that became another moment for me. So added Pilates to that practice, and I did mat practice for about five years before I even knew that anything else existed. So just mat, loved i, still do, it's my favorite. Yeah. And then, yes, I did that for about five years before I looked into what else there was, and then became a Pilates instructor from there. And now my front room of the house is a Pilates studio, and yes, collect all the things. That's what we do.Lesley Logan 15:19  Sounds about right. Sounds about, you know, my living room and guest bedroom and office has Pilates equipment in now so, you know. All right, we gotta go all the way across the pond, all the way into Germany to talk to Yasmin. Yasmin, tell us who you are.Yasmin Scholten 15:35  Yeah. Hi, I'm Yasmin, and I'm from Germany. This is in Europe, center of Europe, and that's the country Joe Pilates is coming from originally, so, yeah, so, but it's not the country the Pilates is very famous, or was very famous. So I started with 18, with fitness. So I was a group fitness instructor with 18. So this was my teaching beginning, and I financed my Tourism Management study with teaching a lot.Lesley Logan 16:11  You were already in fitness, you were just teaching other fitness, and then you're like, I'm gonna go to school. Yasmin Scholten 16:17  Pilates was not really famous. I teach step aerobics, everything, shaping classes, whatever. Teached everything. And I had wonderful. Lesley Logan 16:28  Yasmin, do you know how to say left, but go right? Do you have that skill? Yasmin Scholten 16:32  Oh, I, yeah, it took a long time to learn, but yeah, I got it one day. Lesley Logan 16:39  That impresses me so much. Yasmin Scholten 16:41  Also with the music, rhythm and the music. So count for four. It took a time, but yeah, I got it. I still love to dance. So I also have this dance aerobic instructor who also introduced me to Pilates. She was also a Pilates instructor, and I asked her what do you think is the future of fitness? And she told me, a small Pilates studio with equipment. She told me I was, I don't know, 20, so it's a long time ago. So I finished my studies, and yeah, and then I tried Pilates because I had a lot of tension in neck and back because of sitting too much in my office job a lot, and I went to my first Pilates class there. I wasn't teaching anymore anything about fitness or anything else, but I went to my first class, and I really felt so good after this mat class, and I had a wonderful teacher there. And, yeah, she recommended me one day. Why not doing a training program? And she also recommended me doing I didn't know anything about classical or contemporary. I didn't know anything about it. I just loved the mat class, and she bought a Reformer one day, and I tried this, and I was totally, I don't know, I fell in love with equipment too, so just a Reformer, but it was wonderful. And then, yeah, I did the training program, and then I started to teach in her studio together with my full time job, yeah, that was hard, but it was so fun teaching. I loved it, really. And then I decided to move to my hometown, so it's a little small town near Munich, and I opened my home studio there, and I quit my job. It was really a good paid job, but I thought, yeah, that's what I want to do. And yeah, everybody told me, oh no, you are crazy. You are crazy. It's a small town. Nobody knows anything about Pilates. Lesley Logan 18:54  But I think that's sometimes the best thing, because then you get to be the one, yeah.Yasmin Scholten 18:58  And I'm still the only one in surrounding so there are no other Pilates studios. So I'm really lucky. The next one is in Munich, and yeah, they are coming and loving the equipment. So I really love the equipment too, but I'm also a mat rat. I don't know this one. Mat rat, I love it.Lesley Logan 19:18  I know I feel like we need to rename the animal, though, you guys, I don't think anybody really, I mean, you know, maybe, the mat rat, or maybe we're just giving rats a better name. I too, like, I only knew the mat for years. I thought the equipment was weird. I was like, who needs to be on that? The mat is so good. Why would we do that? It's also, like, I don't have the money. So I was like, that's so expensive. Why would anyone do that when you could just do the mat work? And then when I moved to L.A., the woman kept putting me on the Reformer, and I did long stretch for the first time, and thought I was gonna fly off the Reformer. I thought I was just gonna get shot up like a cannon. I was like, I don't like this at all. I don't feel safe. I don't think this is good. So, and it took me a really long time to, like, get on board with the equipment. Lesley Logan 20:01  Okay. So we have Mindy, Megan, myself, and Tami, and Yasmin, full time Pilates teachers, and then Rachel and Christine, you guys save the world. And then you teach Pilates on the side. Is that what's going on? Okay. And then, yeah, I like that. I mean, Christine's doing securities and tech, and you're doing biotech. So to me those are the two things that save the world right now. And then we have Yasmin, Rachel, Megan and Tami who've got the kiddos. I think Megan wins with four, because Yasmin, you have two? Yasmin Scholten 20:34  Two, yeah, two boys. Lesley Logan 20:36  Yeah. And then Rachel and Tami each have one, unless I've forgotten a child. Okay, so I just want to say that, because I know people are listening, and it's important to put in context, like, every single one of these people got into Pilates for something that they needed, and they got joy out of it, and also it made them a better person around the people that they love and care about. I mean, Christine's husband was wondering where all this stuff was coming from, but I think he's on board now. Lesley Logan 21:01  Okay, so I want to take a few of you, and you guys can chime in if I don't call you out. But like, what got you wanting to even look at OPC? Because obviously we all fell in love with in-person Pilates. And I think there's a lot of people, like, I just had someone here at the house. I was just teaching in-person. They were visiting from the Ukraine, and they're like, so you teach people on the computer, like, how do you know if they're doing it right? And I was like, well, that's kind of my job to know if you're doing it right. But I can understand that question, you know, if you don't experience online, so I'll go with Mindi, Christine and Rachel on this one. How did you kind of like stumble upon OPC? And what did you think about doing Pilates online?Mindi Westfall 21:37  I'm not the mat rat. I didn't know much about the mat until I started doing my training and then following people on Instagram, following Lesley, and she was doing an in-person class in Denver, and I was like, I'm gonna go to that. Lesley Logan 21:53  Oh, yeah, no, I bug, I like slid into your DMS. Okay, so this is how do you all wanna know how many I met? She commented on something, and it was during the time of the first ever OPC Pop Up Tour, and we were trying to sell out locations. And so I was in the habit of every comment I got I literally stalked them and looked up where they're from, and it said Denver. And so I DMed her, I said, hey, I'm teaching a class in Denver, and you should come. You guys, it was like across town on a Monday night, and she fucking did it. So that's how we met. And it was a mat class, so she had to do mat. Mindi Westfall 22:22  So at that point, I was like, okay, I need this in my life. And you guys were talking about OPC, and I was like, oh, this would be great, because I can have someone else teach me, and I had been following you and all of that. So OPC was just a way for me to get my own workout in while teaching and trying to figure this out. And I mean, I was teaching a lot in the beginning, because that's what we do. And then I was like, okay, I need this time for myself. Plus I just wanted more of your knowledge, because I didn't know a lot at that point. So the mat was really the part that I wanted the access to on OPC, because I didn't have access to that where I was, so. Lesley Logan 23:07  A lot of people don't teach mat. And so the mat at OPC is like a great supplement if you're going to a studio, yeah. Mindi Westfall 23:12  Absolutely, yup. Lesley Logan 23:14  All right, Christine, you're up. How did, how did we, like, we knew each other, though? How do we find each other?Christine Kam-Lynch 23:20  This is gonna sound really odd. Lesley Logan 23:22  How did you get into my life?Christine Kam-Lynch 23:23  I know. So, I wasn't on social media. I'm barely on it now, but my dog is on social media, and somehow you got into his feed through Profitable Pilates. Lesley Logan 23:41  Oh, it wasn't even an ad, by the way. We weren't even paying for ads. No, this is like straight up true algorithm making sure we met, yes. Christine Kam-Lynch 23:47  Yes, which timed well, because I was having my home studio at the time, and I had three questions, and I'm like, where do I go for these questions? And your poster, I don't know, I don't think reels were big back then, that's how old I am, but it was a post, and I was like, oh, she could have my answers for me. And so I slid into your DMs, because I remember asking a friend, like, how do I contact her? And she's like, oh, you DM her. And I'm like, what? So she showed me. And I was like, oh, great, thank you. And so, yeah, I wrote to you, and so you gave OPC as part of our Profitable Pilates agency membership. Lesley Logan 24:39  Oh, so we just forced you into it. Christine Kam-Lynch 24:41  Yes, basically. I was like, this is free? Okay, I would give it a try. And I was like, oh, I love this.Lesley Logan 24:49  I love it. That's so funny. We kind of forced you in, you know what? Sometimes that's the best time. All right, Rachel, how did you find OPC?Rachel Piper 24:57  I feel like it was really, really odd, if I remember correctly. There was someone on Instagram that I was supporting because she made size inclusive clothing with Pilates. Her name's Maria, and she was hosting, like an OPC leader, something. Lesley Logan 25:12  Yeah, oh, okay. That was. Okay, so in 2020, we had like community leaders, because everybody was at home and everyone was stuck, and so we would do pop ups, but live Zoom classes on the mat, but just for that person's people. It was city-based, but obviously not and so it was our first those were our first affiliates. And so she loved us. We love Maria. Shout out to The Movement Shop. And so you, you came to the the Minneapolis, Zoom class. Rachel Piper 25:42  Yeah, I came to the Zoom class. And I think I followed you on Instagram or whatever, but I didn't really know what was going on with Instagram, other than I was trying to support her. So I went, and afterwards, we chatted, and Brad was there, and I was like, oh, these people are fun. And you asked me, like, a whole bunch of questions. And it was, like, really interactive. And then after that, it was just like, we kept commenting on each other's posts and things like that, and the next thing I knew, you were asking me to be a teacher. And I was like, how did this even happen? You know what I mean? It was pretty interesting. But I love the classes, so I did sign up for OPC after that. But we have a ton of mat classes. We had a ton of that classes at my studio, but they were all 50 minutes long, and I was like, I just want a pinch of mat, but also because I could do it on my own, but if I do it on my own, then maybe I'll cheat a little here or there. And I love a good theme. I think we all know I love themes. I love writing descriptions for themes. Christine Kam-Lynch 26:40  Yeah, you have the best names, Rachel, you come up with the best names. Lesley Logan 26:44  At OPC, we know, it was like Katie Donnelly, and it might have been Christine who is like, when you hear OPC does anyone go, yeah, you know me. And we discovered that all of the members are kind of like elder millennial Gen Xers who just really love 90s hip hop. Then we, like, just really got into themes. And Rachel is definitely the go to because some people on the team don't really love naming things and coming up with themes. And it's like Rachel and Christine, the two of them will just come and Megan can just come up with themes. So just give them, give them to Mindi.Rachel Piper 27:14  I do. I send some of them to Mindi. I swear, still my favorite one that I ever came up with, and I still giggle out, is Hippy Ki-Yay Mat and Reformer. Yeah, they're, like, one of my favorite ones. Oh my gosh, we just need to, like, bring that back because. Lesley Logan 27:32  You should bring it back. Rachel Piper 27:33  It was an awesome theme. If anyone remembers the circle bands, we put the circle bands on our thighs, and we never took it off for class. And I was like, maybe don't use, like a heavy band, everyone.Christine Kam-Lynch 27:46  I did. I did not listen to you. I did and I regretted it. It's important.Lesley Logan 27:54  I do recall that. So Megan, I know how she won a year of OPC, if I recall our history together. I think the better question maybe is why did you stick around at OPC? Most people win things, and it's free, and they don't use it, but you used it. So what was it about OPC that made you go, this is my place, that I'm going to use this gift? Megan Lauman 28:18  Yeah, well, kind of similar to Mindi. I mean, when I originally found you was online with YouTube videos like teaching exercises, because I was a teacher in training, and I was like, how do I soak in more knowledge when I'm on a walk? How can I just learn while I'm walking or while I'm driving? I could just listen. And so that's how I found you. Loved the tutorials. And then one free year, I kind of like to go all in. Like, a lot of us Pilates people, we don't, like, we really just do it that's why we all have so much equipment, right? So, yeah, I went all in. I'm like, I'm not missing a class. I'm getting everything out of this that I could possibly get out of this.Lesley Logan 29:00  Like, the value of a year of OPC is, like, 1400 and something dollars. I'm telling you, you guys, Megan was at every live class she took every, now they're 45 minutes, and every 30 minutes, and how I got to know you is because of you asked all these questions and you participated in the community. I was like, yes, I'm so glad this person won, because you were the most deserving to win.Megan Lauman 29:21  The Form Feedback Fridays, I definitely took advantage of that, because the I was a new Pilates instructor, right? And so I'm looking at everyone, but have no one looking at me and so it was just such a huge bonus to have someone able to look at me and give some feedback.Lesley Logan 29:36  That's one of my favorite things that I wish people took advantage of more. And it's really funny, because I've had a couple people go, can I send my clients' videos in? And I'm like, no, because OPC is a safe place for your practice, and your practice the more curious you are, even if your body type is different than your clients, because all the teachers body types are so different, you're going to learn what you need to learn. And so the Form Feedback Fridays, you guys, it's really like, you send a video in if you're an OPC member, if you do an exercise, and then I can give feedback. And my goal is that we get so many of these that I have to hire the OPC teachers to help me. And so people are like, I don't want to take up her time, as if I don't know how to manage it, so take up my time OPC members and send it in, because it's one of the things that no other on demand platform does. No one does. Not a single fitness company out there makes sure, except for they're like, oh, put this suit on, and these little sensors will tell you you're doing it correctly or not. That's not actually how Pilates work. Your body is very different. So Megan, we love that you took full advantage of the favorite parts of OPC and all that you did. Yasmin, you've been with us for a long time, and you've been doing Pilates probably longer than all of us, maybe, maybe, maybe as long as Christine. What's your favorite part about OPC that makes you want to do it, and even wanted to teach about it? Yasmin Scholten 30:50  I would say I found you. You did this Struggle is Real with Andrea Maida and I love this, this Struggle is Real because, yeah, we all have these construction sites, I say, in our bodies, also we as a teacher, and I love to go through this. And this is the same with OPC, I would say. You gain more self-confidence in your body because you're following these teachers who also have these struggles in their bodies. And they give you approach of their method to help you with these struggles. And I really love this about OPC, and also I'm often really overwhelmed and over-stimulated with studio and being mom and family, and I don't want to scroll through hundreds of classes to find this for this day. I don't know what I need. I just want to move. Yeah. Lesley Logan 31:45  Yeah. Well, that was my goal. I used to ask people, why do you not use the membership that you have? And they were like, it's too many. It's like, Netflix. It's like, do you know for the fifth time, Brad and I are watching Schitt's Creek right now, it's not like there's not a new show out there. I know that there's a new season of White Lotus out, and I haven't even switched over because I'm still finishing the fifth round through Schitt's Creek, because you want to know what, I know where it is. I know how to find it, you know, like, so, you know, people were telling me they weren't using it, and I was like, how do I create something that people have accountability for, but also feels like you're at the studio, but doesn't have the distractions or the expenses of the studio, but also all that. So thank you for, thank you for sharing that. And we love, we love Pilates Andrea. Megan, you know, and this goes for, not that Christine and Mindi and I can't talk to what it's like to be busy, you have four kids, and you talked about how running was your thing. How do you prioritize, and you know, if you ask me, and Rachel want to jump in, as a busy mom of kids who need you, your practice, because it would be so easy for you to have an excuse to not.Megan Lauman 32:47  Oh, yeah. I should mention that two of my children have special needs as well, so there's a little bit more time consumed in them. My youngest is 12 and he has autism. He's nonverbal. He functions like an 18 month old, so he does require a lot of attention when he's around. So I do have the best partner in the world. My husband's amazing and we both believe that we need time for ourselves. And so we tag each other in. And of course, we do a lot of the work together, which makes it fun, but we do tag each other into and so having someone that knew what's important to me in making sure that I get that time is just really valuable. Yeah. So it started when my youngest was born and went with running, and it would just be like, maybe it was a nap time, and my husband was working from home, and I could get out for, you know, my first run was a mile and a half. I thought I was gonna die, right? And then I'm thinking back to when they got a little bit older, and I was doing Pilates, and I would just tell them all to work together, and I would turn on a video, and I'd find like a quiet space in the front room, which is now my Pilates studio, and my kids would be in the other room so I could hear what's going on. I knew that they were there, but I had my own space, and the kids would work together and give me, maybe it was 10 minutes, or maybe I got a whole hour that day, but I made it a priority. And you know, I'm thinking back to that time specifically. I would schedule that in in the morning, and they knew at nine o'clock, this is what mom was going to do. We set that expectation. And like I said, sometimes it was shorter than others, but scheduling and making sure I had that time for me.Lesley Logan 34:25  Yeah, thank you for sharing, because I think so many people take on that full responsibility, and maybe they don't have the same amazing partner we know, and we shout out to him. We love him. But also, I think sometimes people aren't asking for help either. We assume people will meet our needs without us verbalizing it as well. So I love that you guys tag in.Megan Lauman 34:46  You can live in this world where you're like, I don't ever get time for myself, and I realize you're not really winning any points for doing that. I have it worse than you isn't winning any points. So let's just make the best of it. And sometimes it's eight o'clock at night before I would get a workout in, but I knew I'd feel better and I'd sleep better if I did it, and sometimes just waking up early or fitting it in there in the day, but figuring out that time for you, I think, is very important. Lesley Logan 35:10  I love that. Rachel or Yasmin, do you have anything to add? Like, on how with kiddos? And I think, Yasmin, your kids are quite young still.Yasmin Scholten 35:20  Yeah, they are eight and 11 and yeah, they need mom a lot. I don't want to lie. It's sometimes hard, really, but they know since, since they are really small, this is a part of my life. So if I don't do Pilates, I get pain, I'm in bad mood, I get a lot of stress, so they know all. So I have also the best partner in the world, and he knows. Often he says, okay, go, go do your workout, and then we will do the rest. So yeah, it is really important to make yourself the priority. It's not easy. With all these we all have so much to do. The day is too short, I guess. So it is important to prioritize, because if not, I get pain, really, I get pain and a bad mood.Lesley Logan 36:17  Yeah, and I don't think people recognize that that pain and bad mood doesn't make you the mom or partner or coworker or friend or sister that you want to be. Then you end up spending time apologizing for being in a bad mood and being in pain and for what you said while you were in a bad mood and in pain, and that just wastes more time that you could spend with yourself. Yasmin Scholten 36:37  Yeah, that's true. Rachel Piper 36:38  The only thing that I have to add is I also have a 12 and a half year old, and he's also autistic, and he's got some other fun flavors going on, like ADHD, which kind of sends him flying off the walls. So finding time to just be in my own space where it's quiet is really, really important. And since I started when he was relatively young, I let him kind of play around with me, or next to me, and then from there, he just understood it's something I do. And now, as he's gotten older, for almost the last year, we've started doing an activity together. So we started taekwondo. If you look at my socials, we did rock climbing yesterday, and that was the first time I'd actually rock climb, but. Lesley Logan 37:21  So cool. Rachel Piper 37:22  He's done it like one other time, and we did it together, and he's very cool about that. He's not quite in the place where he wants to do Pilates with me, but we can do these other things together. And I just want people to know that even if it's 10 minutes or 15 minutes where you can just get on the mat, it helps you do everything else better. There's no way that I could do taekwondo the way that I do it, or just, okay, I'm just gonna scale this wall without training at all, without Pilates. Lesley Logan 37:52  Rachel, I couldn't agree more, because, like, I rock climbed with Brad a couple years ago. I was like, that'll be our hobby together. And to be honest, it's just not close enough to our house for either of us to be able to prioritize it. But, there's no way. There's not a part of me that is a rock climber, except for that I've really long legs, have me pretty strong and has flexibility in my hips. That kind of helps, but nothing else. If it wasn't for Pilates, I wouldn't know how to use my arm and my leg opposite at the same time. Yeah, for sure. But I just have this, are you the only adult in your taekwondo class? Is it all the kids? And like, is it an adult taekwondo class? Is it all the moms?Rachel Piper 38:27  No, it's actually a mix. And it's like the most inclusive place you could find, which is great. There are a ton of neurodivergent people. Lesley Logan 38:36  I love it. Rachel Piper 38:36  And we all take class together. So there are parents of adults, there's adults, there's kids that come on their own, and it's like a super safe place for Alex in this particular dojang, which has made him come out of his shell. So yesterday, he was like, leading me all over the place, like, okay, you do that one and I'll do the one right next to you for rock climbing. It's really helped him come out of his shell. cLesley Logan 38:58  I saw his smile. I saw his smile on something on your post. And I was like, I have not seen that kid smile so big. So it's really cool. Okay, this is, like, not even long enough. We could talk forever. But I want to go into two parts, Be It Action Items. We can't leave an episode without a Be It Action Item. And the thing that makes you actually take class on OPC, because here's the thing, guys, these are all teachers of OPC, except for Tami. We're missing her. They could so easily just film and take the money and run but I also know that they take each other's classes, so I would love to know why they actually do that, like what their favorite part about OPC is. So we'll go with Mindi and then Christine.Mindi Westfall 39:36  So for me, it's constantly learning, right? Learning from other teachers, I think is one of the most important things I can do for myself, teaching my clients, and then also for my own practice, because I learn something new every single time I take someone's class. So that's really important to me. So my Be It Action is actually from Lesley. So, in Agency, the business group, it's take messy action. But I also put that into my own practice, because not every single class, every single exercise, is ever going to be what you want it to be, and you have to take messy action in your own practice and be like, well, that was okay today, but I got to move or whatever it is, like, it doesn't have to be perfect, it doesn't have to feel perfect. Movement is the most important part. And just do it. And no matter what it looks like, what it feels like, at least you're moving your body.Lesley Logan 40:39  I love that. I love how you applied that. Christine, favorite thing and a Be It Action Item. Christine Kam-Lynch 40:44  Similar to Mindi. I think, I think we're all relatively students of life, cannot stop learning. So, I actually love hearing the different cues from different teachers, because sometimes that, like, lands differently depending on the day with me. And sometimes I can actually take that and apply it to, you know, a client of mine, if my words are not working, it's like osmosis or something, that I can be like, oh, how about this? Will this work? That's really fun to try and experiment with. My Be It Action Item is I started treating movement like snacks throughout the day. And I think sometimes we we get tied to a time, like I have to work out 30 minutes, or it doesn't count, or I have to work out for an hour, it doesn't count. No, any amount of minutes that you can sprinkle throughout your day counts. And my mom has really embraced this. My mom, who is a not, not a mover, not an exerciser, she's like, does this count? Like, what are you doing mom?Lesley Logan 41:52  For everyone listening, Christine just lifted her arm and lowered it down. Technically, that would be under the movement category, yes. Is it gonna help her rock climb? Probably not today.Christine Kam-Lynch 42:06  So surprisingly enough, the homework I give my mom, who I didn't think was gonna take it seriously, actually took it seriously, and she does what she can remember for that week, and she just inserts throughout the day is kind of like my new thing, Lesley, like, if I can't get a workout in, just move a little bit here and there throughout the day. You'll feel better.Lesley Logan 42:30  I love it. Yasmin, your favorite thing about OPC, why you stick around, why you take classes and your Be It Action Item? Yasmin Scholten 42:36  I would say I will steal your mantra so we don't have to be perfect. The root is the goal not to be perfect in this moment and just do your workout, practicing with the teacher, and find confidence in your body. Lesley Logan 42:57  I love that Be It Action Item. What's your favorite thing about OPC, though? Yasmin Scholten 43:00  My favorite thing is to be not alone in my studio. So I have a home studio. I'm alone and there's a community for me. I can ask questions. They are wonderful teachers I get to know and I can ask whatever struggle. No question is a bad question or silly question. Lesley Logan 43:23  I love that you brought that up, because I think a lot of people work from home today, and so they're thinking, I need to go out and find something so I'm not in my house all the time, but then they don't have the time for the parking, or they can't afford the membership, or they can't get into classes, and so they could still have a community. Yeah, I thank you for sharing that part. Megan, your OPC favorite thing and Be It Action Item.Megan Lauman 43:45  Yes, definitely love the community. Certainly love learning. That's what brought me there in the first place. But I love how inclusive it is. Sometimes also I just listen to the workouts. Maybe I watch them more than once, but I listen to them while I'm driving a car. And I learn a lot from from everyone, but I what I mean by inclusive is we're not expecting everybody's body to do the same thing. And I think sometimes, if you're just watching an online platform, you're thinking, I have to look like this person who's demonstrating it. I like how all the teachers might say, oh, that rep didn't feel very good. And let's see if it's different this time. Or I felt my hips moved they aren't supposed to move right there, or we're just honest, real and inclusive. And I really do love that. It's inviting for everybody. Be It Item. I'd say, just find a way. Maybe it would be, find a way to do the thing to take a moment for that self-care, whatever that is, if it's five minutes, and maybe it is a mat and it's five minutes on the mat or getting out for a walk around the block or whatever it is, but finding a way. Lesley Logan 44:44  I love that. I love both those things. And thank you for saying that when I set out to create OPC, of course, I always thought of myself as an inclusive person, but I also could see where I alone can't be the whole reason we're inclusive. By the way, that takes the pressure off every single person listening. You alone cannot be for everyone ever, because we all have different life experiences. So we all have blind spots to experiences we don't have. And even if you are super thoughtful and kind and welcoming, it doesn't mean that every single person can see themselves. We just had a new member who was like, I was taking a Reformer class. It was just a little faster and I'm in a larger body, and I'm not sure I'm like, set out for this. And I was like, oh my God, hold on, when is Rachel's next class on the schedule? Okay? And also, I really do mean it when I say, don't do every exercise, you know. So I love that I can refer our new members to different teachers who either have similar body types or schedules or personalities. So yeah, thank you. Rachel, your favorite thing about OPC and Be It Action Item. Rachel Piper 45:56  I actually love it when I have the Work Out With Me list. Oh and I don't even care if just one person shows up to those, but it's just like this little extra community thing in general, because Yasmin said we're very community-oriented, and this is just like another way for us to be able to do it. So I know Megan's done one and we hope to get a few more out there. But everyone's already said kind of what I'm already thinking as well. But I just love hearing what people are doing with their themes. And so sometimes I'll just listen to it, but I'll tell you what, to me there's like nothing better than turning on the camera live as one of the teachers and playing someone else's workout and letting people, if they want to, just sit there and watch me do someone else's workout. Because I will change the workout if I need to. Lesley Logan 46:50  And I love that, because it does give our members, even though we say it and we all say it in a different way, gives people a permission like oh, Lori Watson, who's an honorary teacher of OPC, she has fusions and stenosis, so she changes every workout. But I, guess what, I know that she takes every single OPC workout and she just changes it. And there isn't a workout out there where one of us is going to have to alternate something, because our bodies are so different. So I love those workout, you guys, those are really fun that when she, Rachel, started them and you know that we have OPC members at Wednesdays at 8am Mountain Time, get together every single week, and they all hit play at the same time and take the same class, and then they hang out afterwards. And I just think that our community is so cool. Okay, you have a Be It Action Item. I think I cut you off. Rachel Piper 47:36  So don't show up for anyone else but you and do what you can do and then be happy about it. That's it. Lesley Logan 47:44  The simplest and hardest thing. I think anyone can do yeah, yeah. Lifelong journey. Ladies, okay, real quick. Well, I'll tell everyone you're in, we'll go through Instagram handles so people can find you, follow you, work with you. So Mindi, what's your favorite place on Instagram hangout. Mindi Westfall 48:01  It's Bendy Mindi Pilates. Lesley Logan 48:03  I love it. Rach, with an I, Mindi with an I. Rachel, what's your Instagram handle for people? Rachel Piper 48:11  size_diverse_pilates Lesley Logan 48:15  Love it. Christine, we know you don't like to hang out, but you do, you do have a dog who does. So where can, where can you be found?Christine Kam-Lynch 48:23  No, you can find me at pilates.bound, but if you really want to follow a really cute St. Bernard, it's rammus128.Lesley Logan 48:33  Yeah, yeah, we love Rammy. Megan, your Instagram handle?Megan Lauman 48:37  Instagram is megans_pilates. Lesley Logan 48:40  Megans Pilates. Yasmin?Yasmin Scholten 48:43  It's purapilates_yasmin. Lesley Logan 48:48  Yasmin, wonderful. And you guys, everyone can follow the OPC Instagram so you can follow me, but sometimes I don't talk about Pilates at all, and people like to tell me that I should, but this is my personal it's my personal Instagram, so I'm gonna tell whatever I want, but OPC.Pilates is the Instagram handle for OPC and Tami, we miss you. We'll have you share all your favorite things with the Be It people soon, but I wanted to have everyone on because I think when you think about OPC, it's easy to like think, oh, it's me and these other teachers, but really it's all of us, right? And while I started it, it certainly was never intended to be about me. It was actually a bit more to be about the community. And so every single one of these teachers was in the community first, because I get people all the time are like, how do I teach for your platform? And I'm like, oh, are you a member? Probably not, since I don't know. And so the the teachers were in the community first. And it's about the community and our live monthly classes, our Work Out With Me, the Form Feedback Fridays, all of that is for the community, because we actually grow together. We as teachers, grow because of the questions that our members ask. The members get stronger because our classes are based around their questions, and we all benefit from the accountability and the community that exists. So I hope that if you're all intrigued by any of these ladies and why they got into Pilates and why they do OPC, I hope you join us in our favorite place. And so if you just go to onlinepilatesclasses.com you can, you can join us 40 days for $40. Please share this episode with a friend who's been wanting to do Pilates but they thought it was too expensive. OPC can be part of your Pilates journey that you do at home and you go to a studio. It could be your only way of accessing Pilates, but we always have something for you no matter what you have access to, because you could be a mat rat like most of us. Until next time everyone, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 50:35  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Lesley Logan honors the end of April with meaningful wins from the community and her team. She shares a bold move by Australia addressing toxic masculinity, a powerful reflection from Ainsley Walker on her eLevate journey, and the intention behind launching OPC Spring Training. From global to personal, this episode is a reminder that showing up like the person who already achieved the goal is the real win. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How Australia is addressing toxic masculinity with a new government role.How Ainsley Walker found growth rewatching her eLevate journey.What sunrise Pilates in the Maldives revealed about self-trust.How OPC Spring Training came together with intention and teamwork.Episode References/Links:Tim Richardson - https://beitpod.com/timrichardsonOPC Spring Training - https://opc.me/events If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. Happy FYF. Happy last Friday of April. Here we are. We did it. We made it. We're here. You did it. I have so many, I have a great win to share with you, and I've got wins of yours to share, and I've got something that's really inspiring, and this blew my mind. Okay, here we go. Lesley Logan 1:02  Last year, this is from hearherstories on Instagram. Last year, Victoria made history by appointing Australia's first parliamentary secretary for men's behavior change, addressing toxic masculinity and its role in rising domestic violence rates. Tim Richardson's role focuses on reshaping boys and men's attitudes towards women and tackling the harmful influence of social media. Should other countries adopt similar roles to combat gender violence and promote equality? Let us know your thoughts. Yes, yes, I'm so, so, I'm so obsessed with this, you know, like we have had some epic guests on this podcast to talk about healthy masculinity and relationships and communication. And I know, everyone listening to this, my few good men, like, you know we're not talking about you, and I just love that a country saw there's a rise in domestic violence and what's happened on social media, and they are, and they're doing something to change it. And it's not gonna change overnight. This is, like, years in the making, but like, we gotta start somewhere educating people that this is not a competition. People of a different gender or different color than you are not your competition. And people who are different than you are not making the world a worse place. They making the world a better place. And so we've gotta get out of this fear-based mindset. And I think that this is just a really cool thing that a country is doing. So way to go, Australia. You win. I wish that was happening here, but maybe it'll happen in other places, and eventually that will help here. Lesley Logan 2:33  So anyways, all right, your wins. There we go. All right, Ainsley Walker. We have a couple wins from her, and I just love I can hear her accent when I read them, so I'm going to read them to you, and this will be our wins for the last Friday in April. So I've been moving through the eLevate replays the last few days, reformer and mat. Took a few days off, enjoyed a family holiday, and I fully took a break. And I'm watching the faces on the screen, and then realize we are no longer them. I see you all move now, and you are not those people. We have grown so much in a year in so many ways, and it makes us so happy, full of gratitude and proud of us. The work we put in last year, the time we invested and continued to I looked at me on the screen and literally wanted to hug me, tell me, it's going to be okay. Better than okay, better than I could imagine. I'm so excited to work my way through these and keep growing. Thank you all, and Lesley, Happy New Year, and incredible people, thank you all for being here and supporting me and each other. I'm also so excited to meet more of you this year in Las Vegas. And she had another win later on, which is I took a full break to the beautiful Maldives, where there was a small, empty gym studio, and I did my own mat practice. Every morning at 6am I did it every day, then walked on the beach, saw the sunrise and then joined the family at breakfast. I saw every sunrise and sunset, and time seemed to be plentiful. It gave me space to reflect on what an incredible year I'd had, and none of it I knew of before. So thank you for Pilates and all it is gifting me. I embrace the rain again, and I now feel ready for this year, and I'm so grateful for this rest without fear and knowing I'm still getting paid. I start back tomorrow teaching. My first class is mat. I'm excited because my daily practice, it's in my body. And I traveled for this year, took me to Las Vegas, Philly, Morocco, Cambodia, Maldives. I completed eLevate. Clients kept coming with full classes. I got stronger, physically and mentally. Relationships mended and evolved by me setting boundaries, talking honestly and unapologetically. It was incredible. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, Ainsley, thank you. I want to share only yours today, because one, you're such a beautiful writer, but two, I've said this before. I said to people when I talk about Ansley, I love the way she sees the world, and I want her wins to be something that helps you see that you can see the world this way too. Now, of course, obviously you see things that are differently, and you can reflect differently when you're on vacation versus when you're not, but where in your day are you taking time to reflect? When are you actually thinking about who you were a year ago? I love that she went through the replays and was able to go, wow, look how far we've come. Like, when are you doing that in your life or in your business or in a relationship? When are you actually acknowledging, like, just how freaking far you've come? You're different, right? I look at pictures myself when I thought I was like, younger and hotter, and I actually can see, like, actually today, 10 years later, I am much hotter and more confident. You know, even when I'm scared, I'm more confident. And so I think it's so important that we all, like, literally, just go into your phone and pick, like, write in the date on your photos from 10 years from now, and just see where were you? How far have you come? You know. What an epic win. So thank you, Ansley, for inspiring us all. Lesley Logan 5:53  My win. Okay, so this Sunday, we are kicking off spring training, and my win is a team's win. We have, you know, we did surveys more than six months ago. We came up with the idea and tossed it around and percolated on it, and we worked on it. So many people on our team have worked on it, not only the seven OPC teachers, but also, like a good 10 people on the team, because there's people who made the images, and people did the copywriting. People did the value statements, and then I wrote the emails, and then my assistant made sure I had time in my schedule and like so we kick it off on Sunday, and I'm just so proud of the work that we did. Now, in this moment that I'm recording, I don't know if we are surpassing our goals or not. I won't know that until after May 3rd, but in this moment, on this day, when I am celebrating this, like, the team and I, we all worked together as if we had hit this goal. And I share that with you because, you know, I had a coach say on all the goals he's had in the last six years. He's missed most of them, but he's successful because he worked like a person who could meet those goals. And so what does that mean? It means like, let's say you have a goal to run a marathon and have a PR, and let's say you actually, you know, work a training program. You fuel correctly, you sleep correctly, you do all the things, and you run the marathon, but you don't PR, is that a failure? No fucking way, because you actually did the things that would have PR do. Maybe you had a headwind, right? But if you sign up for a marathon, you want a PR, and then you, like, postpone some of the long days, and you didn't do the sprint runs, and then you didn't fuel well, and of course, you didn't hit a PR, well, that would be the failure, because, and not even a failure. Just be feedback. Like, you didn't act like the runner who could PR, you didn't do the things that a runner who would PR would do, right? So what I would just say is like, please notice if you miss a goal by whatever the numbers are, but you did all the things that could have done it. That's a win, always. It's always successful. So I'm so proud of my team and all that we've done and accomplished together, and I'm so excited for the impact that Spring Training is going to make and you can join it, opc.me/events, you know, because there's replays. So it's pretty awesome. Lesley Logan 8:11  All right, your mantra. Just because I feel it, doesn't mean I need to carry it with me. Just because I feel it doesn't mean I need to carry it with me. Just because I feel it doesn't mean I need to carry it with me. What are you gonna let go of right now? You're amazing. Thank you so much. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 8:37  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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In this recap episode, Lesley and Brad break down Lesley's conversation with intuitive eating coach Sabrina Magnan. They explore how disordered eating habits form, the power of self-awareness, and the role of travel and journaling in identity shifts. Whether you're looking to reconnect with your hunger cues or take small, consistent steps toward your future goals, this recap offers valuable insights and practical takeaways. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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The fact that people have to tell us sometimes you think you're hungry when you just need a drink of water, the fact we have to be told this because we have become so disconnected from our heads to our bodies about when we are actually hungry, or if you're hungry, your body is saying hi, I don't have enough fuel to do the thing you asked me to do. So I really just thought it was really cool. Lesley Logan 0:26  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:09  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the intentional convo I have with Sabrina Magnan in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, go listen to it and then listen to this one, or stick around and then go listen to that one, because that's just like how podcast apps can work. You guys, today is April 24th 2025 it's World Immunization Week. I feel a pedestal from Brad coming in. World world of music. You guys, we're using our platform how we can. Brad Crowell 1:41  Maybe.Lesley Logan 1:43  World Immunization Week is an annual event observed in the last week of April. Aims to educate the public about why vaccines are necessary for the health of millions of people around the world. For numerous reasons, children and adults miss out on essential vaccines, which increases the risk of contracting various preventable diseases such as polio, measles and smallpox. The purpose of this week is to identify challenges and gain access to vaccines and overcome those barriers for the benefit the global populations. People now realize that unless everyone is safe from disease, no one is truly immune. Well, you guys were really fucking this up. So obviously, if you listen to this, you probably have done all your children's and your MMRs, but please check in if you are eligible for the boosters for measles, because depending on when you got your shots, you might have only gotten one shot, so you may actually need to do additional one depending on how around people you are, because this is like a huge thing. When I was in L.A., there was like a freaking whooping cough outbreak amongst the private school, and my client had been in my studio three times after her kid had whooping cough. Didn't seem to think to tell me, and I was like, you're exposing me to whooping cough. So there's just different things we have to be aware of. Also, if you are of a certain age, you might have to get your shingles vaccine. You don't want to actually get shingles. I promise you, there's like nerve damage that happens. It's very painful. So please educate yourself. If you come at me because you think it's causing things that have scientifically been disproven multiple times, I will not respond to you. I don't need to, but I do think you should go and educate yourself and make decisions that are right for you and those around you. Brad Crowell 3:20  Yeah, in Texas, we have a measles outbreak right now in the United States. There's a whole lot of people trying to figure that out. And the reality is, the people who are getting measles never got vaccine. They never got the vaccine, but because of it now it's one of the most contagious diseases ever, and because of it now it's putting people who may have gotten it 40, 50 years ago at risk because it, meaning the vaccine, 40, 50 years ago, at risk because science has changed over time. Things have changed and shifted and grown. I was listening to a podcast where they interviewed a woman who's, I can't remember, but she was a doctor at the NIH, and she was basically saying that what they found is that before 1968 they recommended to go get a measles booster. From 1968 to 1989 where we were born, Lesley and I were born, it was medicine generally said go get one dose of the vaccine, but you are, now they're saying you should have at least two. So I contacted my mom. Somehow I actually had two doses of the vaccine, right? But, otherwise.Lesley Logan 3:20  Typically, you would have gotten the one at, one as a kid and then one, you're. Brad Crowell 4:01  In the 90s, like 10 years later.Lesley Logan 4:08  Yes and then you would have gotten one when you went to school. That's how it went. Brad Crowell 4:21  That's what it was. So I got one when I was born, and then I got one before I went to elementary school.Lesley Logan 4:35  Yes, so go get your tetanus. When? If you don't remember, it's probably (inaudible). Brad Crowell 4:39  Go get a tetanus shot. You don't want to deal with that.Lesley Logan 4:42  No, they're preventable, you know. Brad Crowell 4:44  And honestly, all the way down to just the flu shot. Lesley Logan 4:47  Well, you know, here's the thing, here's, here's, if you're like, I'm against all these things. So Brad's brother and sister in law, so they had a third baby, and the third baby was born premature, and we were the only ones in the family who got to go see this little cutie pie because we had a flu shot. Like, it's not about you, it's about like premature babies and little kids and people with immune suppressed issues, that's why you get it, because you might survive it, but the person next to you who's dealing with childhood cancer won't. So think about other people. Brad Crowell 5:21  Yep, that's all. Lesley Logan 5:23  Sorry. Well, I guess I joined on the soapbox. Okay, I'm back from Pilates Anytime filming. We had so much fun. Those classes will come out in the fall. If you're not a Pilates Anytime, member, you can use L Logan for a 30-day trial. I have a ton of classes on there. You can just search out all of mine. They're really, really fun. And we have announced and space is filling up like crazy, because it's a very limited amount of people who can join us on the Mullet Tour in the U.K. So yes, we are coming to Leeds and Essex in September, and we are doing a Mullet Tour, which means business in the front, Pilates in the back. So business workshops in the morning, Pilates classes and workshops in the afternoon. It's gonna be a lot of fun. Brad Crowell 6:04  It's gonna be a blast. So go to opc.me/uk to get more information. We're past the waitlist at this point. Go find out the deets, opc.me/uk, and then at the end of the month, we're getting really close here, this is the 24th today, so. Lesley Logan 6:18  Three days, so you're just gonna go to. Brad Crowell 6:21  opc.me/events, opc.me/events Come join us for spring training. Literally, in just a few days, it kicks off. It's going to be 10 events over seven days on all four pieces of equipment. If you have a mat only, there's a mat only ticket. Otherwise, you come get the equipment ticket.Lesley Logan 6:35  It's really inexpensive and they're 30-minute classes with a 30-minute Q&A. So it's not just workouts. It's like, actually hangout sessions. Brad Crowell 6:43  Yeah, community, great questions.Lesley Logan 6:44  Asking the questions, where you actually (inaudible) with. All the OPC teachers and myself, I'm teaching like four of the classes, I think. It's just going to be a ton of fun. And we have team uniforms, guys, like baseball jerseys. We are ready to go. The dog has a uniform. He's a home rough. He's a bat boy, bat dog. He's all the things. Brad got a jersey. It's, yes, it's pink. It looks so cute. Brad Crowell 6:45  It's very pink. Lesley Logan 6:47  So go to opc.me/events to snag your spot before we kick off. There are replays on the classes who can't join live and what else, Brad?Brad Crowell 7:18  Yeah, so come join me for a free webinar. If you are taking clients, taking payments from clients, we want to help you. Want to support you. We want to share with you what we've learned over the last seven years of coaching people, over the last 10 years of doing it ourselves, we've literally had to be in the trenches doing the same exact things you're doing to grow your business, to meet new clients. How do I introduce myself? What am I supposed to say? I get tongue-tied. It's awkward. I feel like a salesperson. All these kinds of things. We were in the same exact position that you were in now. And because we realized that we had to get better at it, was we went out and we learned. We started studying with coaches for, I don't know, six years in a row, we hired coaches to help us with sales, copy, email writing. How do we, you know, say things, what should our website be, do, have? How do we become more known in our community? And we started Agency to share these things with you, right? And then, what that's allowed us to do is to then be alongside more than 2500 businesses just like yours over the past seven years, helping everyone solve these problems, and we can work with you to solve the same things. How do I get new clients? How do I actually fire a client that I hate? I need to fire the teacher for me. I really need help with my admin, all these kinds of things, insurance, etc, etc, etc. Anyway, free webinar. I want you to come join me for it. It's called the growth accelerator. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. And then finally. Lesley Logan 7:27  We're going to Cambodia. We want you to come with us. Why haven't you signed up? This is your reminder. Go to crowsnestretreats.com and snag your spot. And let's go. Let's go to Siem Reap. I think it's like another thing I've been thinking about. You might be going why are we going to Cambodia? So if you've heard the town Siem Reap. Brad Crowell 9:05  Siem Reap. Lesley Logan 9:05  Siem Reap, that's where all the temples are.Brad Crowell 9:07  The Temples of Angkor. Angkor, A-N-G-K-O-R. Angkor was the, one of the largest civilizations, landmass wise, it was actually they controlled what we now consider Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia and all the way up through parts of Thailand. They would go to war with the Thai. They would go to war with India. They would go to war with all these, these places, right? It was a massive, massive civilization, and they built over 1000 major structures, and they're mostly temples. And then they were eaten by the jungle, and a thousand years later, they were, quote-unquote, rediscovered. And they are stunning, y'all, it's mind-blowingly cool.Lesley Logan 9:46  And if you go on some random cruise, they're gonna take you to three and we're gonna take you to way more than three, and we're gonna do Pilates, we're gonna do a Lotus Farm, and we're gonna go to a water village, and you're just going to learn so much and be so awed, like one in wonderment. Yeah, you'll be in wonderment, and it's gonna help you.Brad Crowell 10:04  You'll just be so odd, it's just gonna be so weird. Lesley Logan 10:06  Yeah, you mean awed. Anyways, come, crowsnestretreats.com.Brad Crowell 10:11  Yeah, if you want to stay an extra day or two, we love to go to a waterfall. We love to go see elephants.Lesley Logan 10:16  The waterfall and the elephants are on the extra day. Brad Crowell 10:18  Yeah, those are extra afterwards, because they're longer day trips and we can't fit them into the full retreat so.Lesley Logan 10:23  They're like full on days. Brad Crowell 10:24  Yeah, so come hang, it's gonna be mind-blowing. Go to crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com. But before we go any further, we did have an audience question this week. EliyaManson-p4k on YouTube says, "Fasting changed my life. It's my superpower! I've noticed that when I fast, the more I move, the better I feel. Plus, my motivation to get up and be active is higher. Does anyone else have a similar effect, or is it different in some way?" It's a very interesting comment.Lesley Logan 10:53  Yeah. So this is on a video we did a live with Noor from Jade Pilates Studio, about, about Ramadan, and so it was like, can you do Pilates during Ramadan? And it was such a really, was a really cool conversation. I've had nothing but great compliments and comments of people being so excited to learn about this. So thank you, Noor. I'm not a fasting expert, expert, and also the way they fast for Ramadan is very different than a fasting program. So Mindy Pelz, P-E-L-Z. Mindy Pelz, if any of you know her email, please help a sister out. Mindy Pelz, she wrote the book Fast Like A Girl, and it is super, super informative about how women specifically can and should fast based on their cycle. So that to Eliya, of course, you're feeling that, especially if you're fasting in the way that benefits your hormone cycle. She has tons and tons and tons and tons of research about fasting, what it can do for us. It's actually incredibly healing. So it doesn't surprise me that you're getting faster at things, you're moving better. Brad Crowell 10:55  But you've also been practicing fasting. Lesley Logan 10:59  Yeah. I mean, I'm gonna, I've kind of stopped. It's Cambodia, it's really hard. Tour was actually not the problem. Tour is easy. Cambodia is hard because you kind of go to bed early, and you wake up early, and then we eat on the schedule. So it's really hard for me to fast when the schedule of the group is different than what mine is. Brad Crowell 12:21  That's fair. Lesley Logan 12:22  But now that we're back, I'm getting back into it. And so by the time you're hearing this, yes, I'm back to fasting. So what I do is, if you look at how she sets it up, where I am in my cycle, Mindy Pelz, depending on where you are in your cycle, if you have one, you don't want to fast too long during a progesterone season, it will stress you out. So 13 hours, 14 hours is kind of the max on those days. But then there's other days of your cycle where you, like, 15 to 17 or 18 hours is really effective and like repair and helping. If you have any pre-diabetic stuff, there's this really great stuff. I don't want to take away her science. Go read her book. It's so good. You can listen to an Audible. It's really great. So I hope that helps Eliya and gives you more information to like even take what you're doing up another level.Brad Crowell 13:09  Love it. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we're going to dig into a really interesting conversation about our relationship with food with Sabrina Magnan as soon as we are back. Brad Crowell 13:21  All right, let's talk about Sabrina Magnon. Sabrina is an intuitive eating and food freedom coach who helps women break free from disordered eating, binge eating and food obsession. After struggling with her own body image and restrictive eating, she discovered the power of self-awareness and mindset shifts. Now she's on a mission to help others let go of food rules and build a healthy relationship with their own bodies. And she shared a lot about her story. I think my favorite part of her story is that her life-altering epiphany moment happened due to travel. And I love that. I think it's great.Lesley Logan 13:58  Yeah, that's why we love travel. I think travel teaches you so much about yourself and and really forces you to get a little bit more flexible around things. Brad Crowell 14:07  So if you listen to the episode, her story is that she went to Italy in her teens. And in her teens is when she was literally going down the path of eating disorders, because she had been a really competitive athlete and then stopped, and when she stopped, she was terrified that she was going to put on weight as a teenager, and she went to Italy. And she said, in Italy, nobody went to the gym for incessantly, no one was freaking out counting calories. Lesley Logan 14:34  Remember in 2020, when they were trying to get everyone to stay home. And the Italian, like the Italian leaders, were like, why is everyone so like now training for a marathon? What is going on? There are these running grannies? What are you doing? Because it's like not a thing.Brad Crowell 14:47  What was like the mind-blowing shift for her was seeing another culture and how they approach food, how they treated it, and how they enjoyed food, where she never enjoyed her food, she was like so intense about it all the time, and that changed her world. So I love that. I think it's amazing.Lesley Logan 15:09  Well, I think even, like in Cambodia, my dad gets so mad because they're like, constantly feeding him, and he's like, they're just bringing more food. They just brought more food. I just ate. I just ate. And he would always lose 10 pounds. The reason is, is yes, it's more outdoor lifestyle. So you're like, you move around a bit more, but when you eat there, you're not on your phone, and the portions are not huge. Of course, you can have seconds or thirds if you want to, but you are enjoying the taste. The food is very flavorful. There's also all these different things that you're going to dip in, and you use your hands. And so I think that's what makes it interesting when you're here in the States or other Western cultures, where the media has made women think that the smaller you are, be obsessed with being smaller, because then you're too busy trying to be smaller to realize we're taking your rights away, like that kind of thing, that's very much what it is, or enjoying your food. And so that leads into what I loved is that she said, we're born knowing how to eat intuitively. Brad Crowell 15:23  Right. Lesley Logan 15:23  And we lose this over time. So when you're a little kid, you're like, eating, and then you're like, done. And they're like, no, come finish your food. And actually the kid is full, they like, I'm done here, you know? And so what happens is the diet culture and the way things are going, it changes our ability to listen to our body and understand when am I hungry? The fact that people have to tell us sometimes you think you're hungry when you just need a drink of water. The fact we have to be told this because we have become so disconnected from our heads to our bodies about when we are actually hungry. And so I really enjoyed that she has taken on so much research and learning understanding about trusting our bodies so we're not restricting, we're not calorie-counting, we're not ignoring hunger. If you're hungry, your body is saying, hi, I don't have enough.Brad Crowell 16:44  Fuel.Lesley Logan 16:44  To do the thing you asked me to do. So I really just thought it was really cool and so true. Intuitive eating means blending what your body is telling you along with your emotions and your rational thought.Brad Crowell 16:54  Yeah. I mean, it was really interesting to listen to how her story shaped where she is today. She also shared that you have to be intentional about the life that you want, otherwise you end up repeating the same patterns. And this is definitely something that we've talked about on the pod before. Lesley usually talks about it when it comes to dating, have you to learn from the person you dated. You end up dating the same person over and over and over again until you learn the thing that you're supposed to learn before you can move on to the next person, right? So in line with that, she said, and instead of, hey, just letting life happen to me, I started getting intentional about, okay, what do I actually want to create with my life now that I've had this change in my perspective? She said, most of our thoughts are on repeat. I don't really understand the science, but the two of you had a really funny back and forth about like, how do we know that 80% of our thoughts are the same today as yesterday? How do we know that we have 60,000 thoughts a day? I don't know how to actually measure that.Lesley Logan 17:47  Oh, they already did that, did that, did that, did that, did that, did that. What does a person watch? I don't understand. But anyways. Brad Crowell 17:56  And unfortunately, most of these thoughts are negative, right? Self-deprecation. And it's easy to get stuck in that negativity cycle. She asked herself, hey, if I could create the life that I want, if it had a blank slate, if the rules didn't apply, and I could just, like, start over and be there, what would my life look like? What would it be for me? Right? And she said, this is when she started to journal. She started to pull things to like, write things down. And she said, hey, every day, this is the kind of stuff where you're starting to notice, I want my life to be like this. Add that to the list, right? And then it'll help you see what you actually want to be doing, where you actually want to be going. And she said, living into that vision helped her see small, tangible changes begin to take shape in her life, so that she could be eventually where she wants to be going. And, you know, I love that. I think this is like just another way of saying, you know, the small, tiny habits, small steps forward are going to help you get there. And also, I've heard this 100 times, but what would the decision be if I wanted to be, you know, a successful business owner, laundromat, if I wanted to be a successful laundromat owner and I had a decision to make, what would a successful laundromat owner's decision be? I should make that decision, right? So you're putting yourself in the place that you want to be before you then make the decision, because you're going to look at it through a different lens than you might, your gut might actually say, and so you, this is really helpful. It's a great way to kind of see life through a different perspective.Lesley Logan 19:27  I mean, I just think, first of all, she was super, super sweet. And I also remember she's like, being it until she sees it to be a puppy owner. So I really hope she and her partner, by this time, have gotten a dog. No pressure. Brad Crowell 19:37  Yeah, no pressure. Lesley Logan 19:38  But I think you're ready.Brad Crowell 19:41  No pressure, Sabrina. All right. Well, hey, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig it into some action items the Be It Action Items that she shared, you're not going to want to miss it. Be right back. Brad Crowell 19:52  Welcome back. All right. Let's dig into those Be It Action Items that we got from Sabrina Magnan. What bold, what executable, what intrinsic and what targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Sabrina? She started talking about manifesting, right? And we were just kind of talking about parts of this, like future-casting, how we make decisions as the person that we will want to be one day. This is also the be it till you see it, you know, stuff. She said, hey, you've got to be really clear on what it is that you want. You need to define your goal, right? So whether that's a career milestone, a lifestyle change, or even a pet, that's what she's going after. She said, you have to embody the mindset and actions of the person who's achieved it. She believes that a lot of people think once they hit that goal, then I will feel this thing, but that is so backwards. And I laughed when she said, it's not like your brain changes when you achieve the thing, right? Your brain is going to be the same brain now as it is when you achieve the thing, unless you're intentionally trying to change your brain now. Lesley Logan 20:53  And also, if you haven't really set yourself up, like, if you're someone who has, like, a fear of making decisions, and then you somehow get someone to believe in your laundromat business, and they're like, here are the keys to your laundromat business, but you didn't ready yourself as a person who makes decisions, good fucking luck keeping your laundromat business, because you have to have done that. So you got to change the brain to be ready for the thing you want to have when it comes. Brad Crowell 21:16  You have to be ready to make decisions now before you get those keys right? Instead of waiting for the success to change, you become the version of yourself who attracts it today. Ask yourself, what does this person who already has achieved this thing do every day, and then make space for it now. Start taking those actions and make yourself ready to receive those wins now, you know. What about you? Lesley Logan 21:39  This is really cool, because this is where, if you're like, okay, guys, we've heard that one before. I think you have to hear things multiple times before you make a decision on making a change, right? Brad Crowell 21:47  Like 17? Lesley Logan 21:47  Like, at least. So this one is really unique. We have not heard this one before, which is, take a piece of paper and do two columns. So a left side, you put the old me, and on the right side, you're gonna put the future me. And on the old me, this is where you can list up the thoughts and habits and emotions you want to leave behind. So all that negative self-talk, I'm a failure, I'm not good enough. And then on the right side, all the things that you want to have in the future, the future you like, how you think and emotions you have. And then you could have this ability to interrupt the pattern, because now you get to act like, oh, these are all the things that I want to embody. So this is what I need to be acting as if, participating, going back to her other Be It Action Items. So I really love this, because one of my clients, shout out to Meredith, I said, hey, babe, we were supposed to, she only has a session on Tuesdays, and we're driving back from Colorado, and I was supposed to text her when we're getting back so I could teach her. And we got back a little later than we expected. And so I, like, was like, hey, I, the only time I have this week is 8 a.m. tomorrow, which Meredith doesn't, is not a morning person. And she goes, great, I'll see you then. And I was like, okay, so I saw her a.m., she was on time. She was ready to go. And I said, wow, this is really early for you. She's like, well, I am a healthy person. I'm a person who makes healthy decisions, and a healthy person would work out at 8am so this is why we're here. But I really liked it. It's like she did the old her would never have said yes to that. Brad Crowell 23:14  Never. Lesley Logan 23:15  The old her is doing the 9:15 and that's early. And the new her is like, nope, nope. I'm gonna do it 8 a.m. I'm up. I'm gonna work out. I'm gonna do it. So I just think that this is a really cool thing. Two sides paper really helps you on that goal setting and getting clear on what you want and who you want to be. Sabrina, I can't wait to hear what your dog's name is. Just putting that out there. Lesley Logan 23:34  Y'all, how are you going to use these tips in your life? What was your favorite part or your takeaways? Thank you also to those who've been leaving amazing reviews of the Be It Podcast, I know they don't make it easy to leave reviews. You have to go find how to do it somewhere on your phone, in a tiny print, and all of you are over 40, so you can't read it. I get it, but thank you for going through the efforts of doing it. It means the world to us. I love reading it. My team literally shows me every single review. Brad Crowell 24:00  Every single one, y'all. Lesley Logan 24:01  Not a single one. Brad Crowell 24:02  We celebrate every single one. So thank you for leaving those. Lesley Logan 24:05  And if you haven't, yet. Brad Crowell 24:06  If you haven't. Lesley Logan 24:07  This is your reminder. This is us guilting you, yeah, don't take that joy away from me. Go leave that review. Brad Crowell 24:14  Don't take our wins away from us, okay? Lesley Logan 24:16  Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 24:18  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 24:20  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 25:03  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 25:08  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 25:12  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 25:19  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 25:22  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

After several years in Los Angeles, the Ojai Playwrights Conference Gala - widely known as one of the best parties of the social calendar - is coming home — to the Ojai Playhouse. on May 17th.Executive Director Jeremy Cohen joins us to talk about this year's star-studded celebration, featuring appearances by Tig Notaro and Indigo Girls' Emily Saliers, as well as the upcoming 28th anniversary festival in August.We dig into why theater still matters in uncertain times, the power of storytelling to foster empathy and inclusion, and why Ojai's unique cultural ecosystem makes it the ideal place to nurture bold new voices in American theater. Plus: Jeremy shares his own path into the world of dramaturgy, how he ended up in Ojai, and why this little valley has such an outsized impact on the stage.We also talked about the OPC Taco Tuesdays events for writers in Ojai, We did not talk about the Chicago Cubs' promising prospects this baseball season, the Cathar conspiracies or Marxist views on alienation.Whether you're a theater buff, a curious local, or just need a little hope through art — this episode's for you.Check out more about the Gala, the OPC programming and much else at OjaiPlays.org.

In this raw and powerful episode, Lesley sits down with food freedom coach Sabrina Magnan to unpack the messy, beautiful work of shifting perfectionism, intuitive eating, and manifesting a life aligned with your values. From a disordered past shaped by competitive sports and diet culture, Sabrina opens up about the turning point that changed everything—her summer in Italy. Immersed in a culture that celebrated food, presence, and connection, she began to release the rigid beliefs she held around food and her body—an inspiring journey that will shift your mindset about diet. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How disordered eating distorted her sense of identity and self-worth.What intuitive eating really means and why it's about more than hunger cues.How journaling and scripting became pivotal tools in her personal growth.What it means to rewire your self-talk with a two-column journaling exercise.Why supporting your nervous system makes mindset shifts feel sustainable.Episode References/Links:Live Unrestricted Podcast - https://sabrinamagnan.comSabrina Magnan Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sabrina.magnan.healthFood Freedom Academy - https://sabrinamagnan.com/ffaGuest Bio:Sabrina Magnan is a food freedom and intuitive eating coach who helps women heal their relationship with food and their bodies. A former synchronized swimmer, Sabrina struggled with perfectionism and disordered eating before discovering intuitive eating and mindset work as tools for true transformation. Her turning point came during a summer in Italy, where she began to let go of food rules and embrace self-trust. Now, through her coaching program and podcast Live Unrestricted, she guides others to release food guilt, rewire negative self-talk, and shift long-held beliefs using practical tools like journaling, scripting, and nervous system support. Her mission is to help women feel safe in their bodies and live with more presence, joy, and freedom. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I had a hard time even knowing who I really am, what my values are, what do I want to do with my life? Because I thought that if I look a certain way, like my entire life revolved around if I can look a certain way, and if I can be perfect around food and perfect around exercise, that I'm finally going to feel like I'm enough. Lesley Logan 0:32  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:15  Hello, Be It babe. Welcome back to another interview for the Be It Till You See It podcast. I'm just loving I get to talk to so many amazing people because you listen to this podcast. So I just want to say thanks, because it's really fun for me. I'm assuming it's fun for you because you're listening. Today, our guest is Sabrina Magnan and she is so fun. We have a really great conversation that kind of goes through how she got to doing what she's doing, which is like focusing on helping others with emotional eating, but also we talk about manifesting, and like how she manifested the person she's with now, and what she's manifesting next, and so it's just a really fun conversation that I think we can all resonate with in different aspects. And also, if emotional eating is something that you are understanding about yourself. I do think that there's going to be some really great points in here that help you feel like you're not alone. And if you're not, then get all the manifestation out of this episode that you want. Here is Sabrina. Lesley Logan 2:13  All right, Be It babe, this is going to be fun because I'm just going to come out from something great. Sabrina and I have already talked today, so if you hear us talk about like we've talked about this morning, it's just because I was already on her podcast. So Sabrina Magnan is our guest today. She is an incredible human and what I can't wait for us to talk about, we're going to get into some self-talk. It's about self-chatter and mindset stuff. But Sabrina, before we get into all that, can you tell everyone who you are and maybe how you started to rock at all of these stuff?Sabrina Magnan 2:39  Yeah, absolutely. So thanks for having me. I'm so excited to be here. And like you said, I am Sabrina Magnan, and I'm an intuitive eating and food freedom coach for women who struggle with the relationship with food, disordered eating, binge eating, food obsession, body image, you know, a lifetime of yo-yo dieting. And I help them heal their relationship with food and their bodies, so that they can free their mental space, their energy, their time, to focus on being their authentic selves and creating the life of their dreams. Lesley Logan 3:12  Thank you for even bringing all that up. I think, like, the thing about being it until you see it is like acting as if you're the person that you want to be, right? And a lot of times, what keeps us from being that person is the stuff that we're currently doing that's kind of holding us back, and it's really a distraction in our lives, and it can be really hard. I do want to get into real briefly, because you mentioned intuitive eating, I feel like people, that requires having intuition. So for someone who might not know what that is, can we just kind of go over that briefly? Sabrina Magnan 3:40  Yeah, absolutely. So in the simplest terms, it's the way that we are all born to eat. So if you think about toddlers, they eat when they're hungry. They stop when they're full, they turn their head, they push their plate. They're turned away from the boob when they've had enough food. And as we get older, and we get all these messages around what we should or shouldn't be eating, and how it might affect our weight, and we get all of this fear around food, then that can really start to disconnect us from our bodies. And so we're no longer listening to what our bodies are telling us. We're listening to what other people tell us that we should be doing. We start calorie counting or restricting or not eating when we're hungry and then overeating later. So being an intuitive eater is blending what your body is telling you along with your emotions and your rational thought. Lesley Logan 4:30  I love that, and also like, yeah, when we're kids, we do that already, you know, I was telling somebody that like I started just shortening the window, like I was following, like, Mindy Pelz and kind of shortened the window. And I said, I'm just, I'm dabbling, like, I'm just, I'm dabbling in it. Like, this is not a, I cannot follow anything like to a tee, just gonna dabble in it. And she was like, you know what's so funny is like, our kids go 12 hours, like, they eat dinner at seven, and we don't feed them breakfast till seven. So like, why as an adult, is it so hard? And it's because, like, life and all these things, and we get all these mixed messages, and it can be really crazy. And then there's, you know, the the chatter in between, all the different things we say that are sometimes from us and sometimes from other people. Like, what's your experience with self-talk? And like, the things that we say and how that affects us, from intuitive eating or just like, having, like a healthy relationship with ourselves and body image? Sabrina Magnan 5:25  Yeah, so I think a good way to lead into that conversation is how I got to where I am today, because I was a high level synchronized swimmer when I was younger, so. Lesley Logan 5:36  Were you like the girls? I also saw that, we're getting off topic, but I just recently saw during the Olympics how you get your hair to like, it's like, weird. It's like plastic. It's like weird rubber stuff to get so your hair still looks like hair, but it also is like, anyways, go ahead. Sabrina Magnan 5:53  It's terrible. It's really like, it's that gelatin mix that you make food with, and you mix it in with, like, boiling hot water, and you put that into your hair, and it is a absolute pain to take out of your hair. It takes hours. So, I was a synchronized swimmer for eight years of my life, and it's a sport that is very highly focused on the way that you look. So, you saw the Olympics, they all kind of look the same. Tall, skinny, long legs, and you just inevitably start to compare yourself to others. And there's a lot of, you know, there's girls who don't make certain teams because of the way their bodies look, regardless of their talent level. And so I was never in a quote-unquote bigger body, but I always thought that I was too big, like I have some nice muscular thighs, and I didn't have a thigh gap, and I didn't have a six pack. And so when I retired from the sport at the age of 16, I thought that the worst thing that you could possibly do is to gain weight, because in my world, gaining weight meant you were less worthy, you were less valuable. And so I did what anyone else would do as a 16 year old, I started looking online and what can I cut out and what should I be doing? So counting calories and low carb and 1200 calories, and I look back on that time now, and the way that I treated myself and the way that I spoke to myself was so incredibly abusive and negative, and as a result, we talked about it this morning. It's really hard to give other people what you don't have for yourself, and so I had a really hard time connecting with people. I had a hard time even knowing who I really am, what my values are, what do I want to do with my life? Because I thought that if I look a certain way, like my entire life revolved around if I can look a certain way, and if I can be perfect around food and perfect around exercise, that I'm finally going to feel like I'm enough. I'm finally going to feel like I am worthy, and I'm going to feel confident, and as you know, like that's an internal job. And so I thought that if something outside of me change, that I would feel different internally. And then I remember waking up one day where I was at the deepest, darkest part of my eating disorder, and just thinking, what am I all doing this for? Like I started this because I thought that it would make me feel happy and confident and loved and accepted and healthy, and I am getting further and further and further away from those things. So into that conversation of be it till you see it, I really thought about my future, and I thought about the kind of person, the kind of life that I wanted to live, and I always said, I want to travel, I want to be spontaneous, I want to have adventures. And with my rigid thinking around food, around exercise, around myself, none of that would be possible if I didn't make a radical change in how I operated internally.Lesley Logan 9:24  Yeah, oh my gosh. Like, I've and if you went through your life and you never had your, like, the idea of like, oh, once I'm this, then I'll have that. Like, congratulations, what a life you've lived. But most of us, like, I resonate with that so much. We just get really obsessed. Like, oh, as soon as I get there to this five pounds that no one notices on me, and probably is very helpful for me, we, then I'll be happy. And it really, you're so miserable getting there that you can't even enjoy it once you are there. Yeah. So you go on this journey and you're recognizing, like, who you want to be, and then how you are not that person. How does that, like, what did that take you to next? You know, where's the next step? Sabrina Magnan 10:08  So that was really my rock bottom. And at that time in my life, I had the opportunity to go to Italy for the summer to be an au pair. And that had always been my dream. Like, Italy was my dream country, and I noticed that I didn't want to go. I was anxious about going because I didn't want to gain weight, and I was terrified of being around carbs and pasta and all these foods that I couldn't control myself around, and I noticed that this like anxiety that I was feeling was really holding me back at the age of 21 so what would that look like at the age of 30 and 40 and 50? So I was extremely terrified, and I knew that's why I needed to go. I was so uncomfortable, and that's why I needed to do it. So I went to Italy that summer, and the first thing that the Italian nonna, who I lived with said when she saw me was oh my God, you're so skinny let's get you some food. And immediately I thought, oh my God I made a huge mistake. I've made a huge mistake, and I was really challenged that summer, but I, at the same time, I was forced to see a different perspective on what it's like to have a healthy relationship with food. Because in Italy, they don't talk about calories. They're not counting their points. They're not spending two hours at the gym. It's a culture of, let's enjoy food, right? Let's nourish ourself. Let's connect through it. Let's slow down. Let's be mindful. Let's be present, which is something I was never used to. I really saw like a stark contrast between the way that I was living back home, where everything was about being productive and doing the right thing, whereas here it was, let's slow things down and let's actually be present and intentional with what we do, and that like planted a seed of, oh, there's a different way to live a healthy and a happy lifestyle that doesn't go to those extremes. We talked about this morning how I'm a recovering perfectionist, very high standards. And so I really thought that if I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it perfect, I'm going to do it well. And I did that with quote-unquote, clean eating. And so in that summer, I saw it's actually possible to like, have gelato and have bread and have these foods and still feel really good. Feel good physically, feel good mentally, feel good emotionally. I felt even better because I was nourishing myself. So I came home that summer and I really made a decision of, I'm not gonna fall back into what I was doing before, because now I'm back in my environment. I'm back around the same people, the same places. It would be so easy to just get caught up back into that cycle of disordered eating. And it took a few years. It took a few years of like, peeling back the layers, because all of these things that we do, they don't happen in a vacuum. They're all connected. And so I had to unravel like, okay, what are the thoughts that I have around my body? What are the thoughts that I have around the people around me? Like, I had this identity as the healthy friend, I thought that people only loved me because I was so disciplined and because I was so healthy, which, consciously. Lesley Logan 13:46  That's hilarious, Sabrina. There's not a single person out there who goes, you know what? I want to hang out with that really disciplined friend.Sabrina Magnan 13:53  I know. Like, if anything, it made me more unbearable to be around.Lesley Logan 13:56  Like, no, let's not invite Sabrina. She won't eat that anyway. Like, that's what it is, like, that, you know? But I understand, because I was a person with, like, severe stomach issues, and I was like, I'm an annoying friend to hang around like, nobody wants to hang around me. So let me just, like, figure this out. But it's, but it is funny, like you're like, this is how I'm known, though. People know me as the healthy one. I got to be the healthy one. The titles we give ourselves really hold us back. Sabrina Magnan 14:19  Yeah and we develop these beliefs because they served a purpose at some point in your life. And I come from a overachieving family where my dad, you know, never said I love you. He's a phenomenal dad, but he is a boomer dad who never learned to communicate his emotions or how he feels, and we never had any of these kind of conversations. So I always felt like in order to get love and to get attention, because I was the youngest of five kids, I just need to excel. I need to achieve. And so if I'm excelling, if I'm overachieving, then maybe I'll get noticed. And so when I was, you know, working out and losing weight and doing all these things, I felt like I was getting noticed. And so I took that on as an identity of, okay, if you are that, then you are loved. You are accepted. And so even if I, you know, look back on it now, and I wasn't feeling any of those things, it happened so subconsciously. Lesley Logan 15:25  Yeah, yeah, it really does. It's, you know, like it just starts to, you just, you don't even realize it's happening, because it just starts to get warmer and warmer and warmer and, you know, you like, learn to tolerate it. So I think it's what I'm, what I also am hearing is like the awareness, the self-awareness you have is really amazing. I don't know that a lot of people have that self-awareness, at least at that age, but how cool to be in Italy. Like, my friends, I have not been. I need to go. I know, you guys. Sabrina Magnan 15:54  You're missing out.Lesley Logan 15:54  I'm missing out. But y'all, most of you haven't been to Southeast Asia, so I don't, like, you know. So I'll get to the places everyone's been to, you know, eventually, but I've only heard good things, and as someone who can't tolerate gluten, I've also heard I could there. So I'm, like, you have no idea, like, I am ready. But, um, you know, I think to go back into, like, navigating, like, some, like, some of our self-talk, it takes a lot of awareness. Like, how did you even, as you said, like, I started to look at what my self-talk was. Like, what did that, what does that look like? So as the recovering perfectionist, overachiever, I'm like, okay, did you have a journal? Did you like, oh, I've had a thought. Did you write it down? Like, what? Like, how do you evaluate this? How do you be aware of what your self-talk is? Sabrina Magnan 16:38  Yeah, so I actually didn't journal until probably around five to six years ago. And so there was that Italy period, and then I came back, and there was about two years of like, really, like, messiness where I was trying to figure things out, and I was still kind of going back and forth. And then the pandemic hit, and I was in France at the time, I was living in France, and I come back to live at my parents' house because there's so much going on. And I remember I had to do two weeks of quarantine because I was coming back from Europe. And those two weeks when I got back from Europe, I was really, really shaken up, because living in Europe during the beginning of the pandemic was extremely, extremely scary, and I spent those two weeks so angry, angry at the world, angry at my parents, which they were being so lovely letting me come back to live with them, angry at myself, just like pure anger. And I remember there was a Dean Graziosi, like, ad that popped up on my computer, and it was like a two-week happiness challenge. Now at that point, I was like, I had never done personal development before. I had never worked on myself before. And I said what do I have to lose? And so some of it was like these small action items every day, and they were things that I had never done before that made me extremely uncomfortable, like sending a gratitude message to five people in my life. And at the time, I really took this on from my dad. I held everyone at arm's length. I wasn't vulnerable, I wasn't myself. I didn't know who I was. I always just had a wall because it was a way to protect myself. So I was like, I'm gonna go all in and I'm just gonna dedicate myself to doing this, because I feel horrible right now and some of that was. Lesley Logan 18:40  So you're alone for two weeks. What else do you have to do? Like you're. Sabrina Magnan 18:44  I have nothing to lose. Lesley Logan 18:46  It could go really fast or it could go real slow. Sabrina Magnan 18:49  Yeah. So I took out my journal, and I started doing the gratitudes, and, you know, thinking about positive things about myself, and what I noticed is this actually feels really good. It feels good to take these small actions. One of them was I started hugging my parents every morning. My we don't do physical touch in my family, and so when I told them, like, hey, I'm gonna do something for the next month where I'm gonna hug you every morning, they were like, okay, and they started loving it. And so we got so close during that time, and it was through these small, little steps that it was like kind of using like a hammer, and just getting closer and closer to understanding who am I at my core. Like, without all of these learned programs and these things that I've put up in my life in order to protect myself, like, who am I actually? And when I thought about kind of letting go of this identity of the person who's always complaining, very negative, you know, a lot of self-deprecating humor. It made me really uncomfortable to think about becoming a person who is happy and genuine and positive, and when I noticed, like, why am I feeling so uncomfortable at the thought of becoming a like, better, happier version of myself? That goes back to the same thing that happened in Italy. If this is making you uncomfortable, it means that you should go after it.Lesley Logan 20:30  I like that. I think that's really cool. I think that's like, I think we were talking about it this morning, you guys, it's been a day, but yeah, like, it's like, just, you know, what, getting comfortable with discomfort and like, and sometimes discomfort is unfamiliar, but it's also like, oh, I kind of like this. I kind of like, you know, I'm sure those first hugs with your family were weird. Sabrina Magnan 20:53  So weird. Lesley Logan 20:54  And slightly uncomfortable. And you could have just like, okay, I'm not gonna do it tomorrow. It was too weird. But you kind of were like, yeah, but this could make me feel really good, like, I'm gonna try that again, you know. So I think that's really cool. So what a, what a life being in France. We were in Cambodia at the start of pandemic. We came back. Nothing had shut down. Actually, as we flew in, L.A. shut down. So like, so thank goodness for a dog sitter and who went grocery shopping for us while we were flying. I was like, can you please make sure there's food? Like, we're coming back, it shut down. Like, what are we doing? You know, so, but we didn't have to, we quarantined together in our own home. So I understand, like there's so much uncertainty you're coming back, and then it's like, what am I even doing here? This, I can understand being angry, like you were, obviously, living in France for a reason. Like, sounds amazing. How did all of this help, like, make you, did you change your life in a different way? Did you start manifesting, like, what came next? Because, you know, my goodness, it's, it feels like a lot has happened in a short period of time, but also, like, four or five years. So it's also, like a lot, not a long period of time, but decent amount of time. Sabrina Magnan 22:07  Yeah. So, really, what I started doing that year is instead of letting life just happen to me, right, like, be a victim of my consequences, and just like, have all these things come into my life and just be like, I guess, like, things just happen to you, like, bad things happen. I started getting intentional about, okay, what do I want to create? And I really started looking at my life as like a book and just scripting like, okay, what do I want my life to look like? And so I would write it in the present moment, and I would just be like, I'm dating this person. I'm living here. I'm doing this with my business, and I would write them, and I would get my emotions involved, and I would also think, like, how do I want to feel about myself? Because you have to be intentional about the person you want to become, because if you don't, you're just going to keep repeating the same person that you were yesterday. I think science shows that like 80% of your thoughts are the same as the ones that you had yesterday.Lesley Logan 23:07  I know. I still want to know how they figured that out, but I believe it. I mean, like, it's true, but also, like, who sat down into that?Sabrina Magnan 23:15  Who? How? How did you count how many thoughts that we have? Lesley Logan 23:18  Also, we have like, 60,000 thoughts, or something ridiculous, we have a lot of thoughts, and 80% of them are repetitive, yes.Sabrina Magnan 23:26  Yeah. And the vast majority of them are negative, because you're constantly looking out for threats, like we have a negativity bias. And so I really got curious as to, like, okay, if I could literally have a magic wand and create the life that I want, free of limitations, free of what I think is possible, what would that look like? And so I would just write that down every day, and I would start to live in and live into it. And at the time, I had no experience with like manifesting and getting intentional. And what I started noticing is like, oh, these things are actually starting to come into my life, and I'm getting more good things, and I would get evidence that this is possible for you. It's not just something that you're writing down in your journal, like you're writing them down and then you're being intentional about taking those actions, like, it's not just saying I want a red car and then just crossing your fingers that a red car is going to come into your life. I remember about like, two or three years in, I decided, okay, I'm ready to meet my person. I wasn't in a rush to do it. I wasn't like desperate to do it. I actually really liked being single. But every time that I would date someone, and, you know, things wouldn't work out after that, what I would do is I would write down what was it that I liked about them, what did I feel was missing, and what exactly do I want the next person to be like, and, most importantly, like, how do I want to feel with them? It wasn't like they need to have this job and make this amount of money, but it was like, I remember one of the big things is I want to feel like a priority. I want to feel like you feel special to be with me. And I think I dated two or three people before I met my now partner, and I have the paper that I wrote down after the guy that I dated right before Luke. And it's like, it's insane. It's spot on of like, this is, this is exactly who I'm dating now. Lesley Logan 25:43  Yeah, yeah, I actually really like, I like the way you did it, it's like, it's not about, okay, they have to make this much money, and they need to be six feet tall, and they have to be emotionally available and all this stuff that, like, it's like, how do I want to feel in this relationship? You know, how do I want to be treated? Like, how is this? And then that way your brain is actually seeking out, like, knows what to look for. You know, you're like, spotting. You're like, oh, that's that thing I wanted. I wanted that. It's right there. That's, that's a, that's really cool. Okay, we have had manifest people, like, talk about manifestation on the podcast before, but everyone has like a different way of doing it. So even if it's like, new to you, like, what are some, what are some of the ways that you've manifested, and what else have you manifested? Because I think, some people think, oh, manifesting is like the secret. I just proclaim it and it comes. I believe it takes action. It sounds like you do too, because you took some action. So what are some of your other ways of manifesting things?Sabrina Magnan 26:37  Yeah, great question. So I would say that one of the biggest things is just get clear. Obviously, get clear on what you want and to start putting your energy towards it. So for example, Luke and I are manifesting a dog for spring of 2025, and we don't know if we're going to be able to have a dog in our current apartment, and so we just keep, we just keep acting as if it's already happened. And that's the biggest thing, I would say, is act as if you already have it, be the person who already has it. So there's a lot of goals that I'm manifesting in my business, for example. And a lot of people think, okay, once I hit that goal, then I will feel this, this, this, then I will be this, this, this. But it's so backwards, because first you have to be that person. You have to match the frequency of the thing that you want to achieve. So I think, okay, a person who has this revenue goal, this amount of clients, how do they act on a daily basis? What are they doing in their business? Because this is going to help me get clarity on, okay, is that person still taking care of these actions in their business? No, they're delegating. So let me start delegating, making space for it now, and start taking those actions to make myself ready to receive those goals. Lesley Logan 28:10  Yes, yes. That's be it till you see it right there, everyone, that's how you do it. You have to like, you can't like, oh, once I get the promotion, then I'll be a kinder boss or a better leader? No, you have to be the better, you have to act like the better leader now, what would a better leader do? Can't be like once I do this, then I'll have this, or once I, once I get a day off, then I'll, then I'll take time for myself. Go take time for yourself each day, even if it's five minutes like, you won't know what to do with yourself. You won't. It will feel very unfamiliar, and it will feel very uneasy, and it won't give you the confidence you need if you wait, you know you'll feel like an imposter, for sure. Sabrina Magnan 28:45  And the brain that you have leading up to that goal is going to be the exact same brain that you have when you have that goal. It's not just going to switch overnight, like, oh, now I think differently, and now I act differently. Like, everything, all of my problems have been solved.Lesley Logan 29:01  Yeah, that's true. That's very true. What are your favorite ways to kind of like, help your brain be comfortable with some of these changes you make? Because I think that's the hardest thing. Like your brain is like, this feels unsafe. It's unsafe for me to do it that way. I want to do it this way. That isn't helping me, but it's comfortable. Sabrina Magnan 29:19  Oh my God, that's such a good question, because right now I'm like, stepping into a new timeline, stepping into new goals. And I did notice that, and I was talking to my coach about it. When I think about the goal logically, I'm like, It's possible. I want it. But when I noticed and I tapped into my body, I was like, there's some resistance here. And I think that a lot of people actually experience that. They say that they want a goal, but if they actually tap into what's going on in their nervous system and what's going on in their bodies, there's like, there's a disconnect there. And if there's a disconnect, it means that something subconsciously, or some things, multiple things, don't feel safe around that goal. Don't feel safe around chasing that thing. So when I really sat down with it, what I'll typically do is I'll just ask my heart, like, all right, where are you, where are you feeling a block? Like, what feels unsafe about this? And then I'll write it down. And what I'll often notice is that it's not just one thing, like, there's multiple things that come into play. I remember a few years ago, I thought, if I make more money, then my friends are going to, they're not going to be around me, like my friend, my family's not going to want to be around me, which is, it's not necessarily a belief that's based in truth, but we create these beliefs because it just, something about it doesn't feel safe. And so what I like to do is I like to write things down. What are all of these different things that I'm feeling resistance around? And then I start to pick at all of them. All right? Is this true? What about this is true? Is it true 100% of the time, and sometimes you do need to do some nervous system regulation. Like, sometimes what I'll do is I'll say a belief out loud, and I'll take a few deep breaths to make it feel safe to actually hold on to this belief, to really like, the biggest thing is like, I get my body involved, because most of the time my brain's on board, right? Like, most of the time, people are like, I have these goals. I have these ambitions. Your brain is on board, but your nervous system is not necessarily feeling safe around it.Lesley Logan 31:31  Yes, yes, yes. I think so. I agree with that, and I think that's really helpful. It's kind of just like asking those questions and tapping into it. And I think writing is a really good way, even if you can't read your writing, guys, like me, like just writing it out, because we tend to let more information come out. I would do morning pages, which is my if, whenever I journal it's gonna be morning pages, just gonna be a brain dump, because all you're like, whoa I didn't even know that was in there. That was in there. Oh, noted, you know, like, it's, how long has that been sitting there? No wonder I'm feeling anxious. So I think that's really, really important. It's really key. What are you most excited about right now, besides this 2025 puppy?Sabrina Magnan 32:09  Oh, I mean, that's probably at the top of my list, honestly, if I'm I was never a dog person until probably two years ago, when I started dating my boyfriend. And now I am like, I've, everyday, I'm like, okay, so, are you ready? Are you ready to have our dog, yet? So I would say my dog is up there. I've got a bunch of weddings from people that I really care about that are coming up in the next month, which I'm really excited to celebrate and love on. And I have some really awesome projects coming into my business for the next six months to expand, impact more people. So those are the things that I'm really looking forward to. Lesley Logan 32:47  That's so fun. If you want a dog, like a puppy fix, a dog fix and it will be hard, I'm not saying it's going to be easy, but one of the things that we, my husband and I used to do in L.A. is we actually used to walk dogs that were in the shelter, and because we couldn't take them, we had two already, so we were, we were done, but I would just see all these dogs up for adoption, these puppies up for adoption, and you can literally, like, go take them for a walk, and they, when they get out, they're wearing a sign that says, I'm available to be adopted. So you're, like, getting them out to be adopted. You're getting your dog fix. You get to practice what it's like to, like, have a dog out in public, and like, how to handle it and all those things. But also you could just take it back and like, you know. So I, one of my favorite things, you can also read to dogs in the shelter. You can cuddle with them. So like, I highly recommend, like, getting cozy with one. There was one that had a vet that was next to my Pilates studio. And so they would just text me, like, hey, there's a dog that's at the vet today. Can you take him out? Because the veterinarians obviously don't do that kind of stuff. And so I would go and take the dogs for a walk. That was what I did. And I just would love up on them and give them all this love and like, help them like, you know, not feel like they're in the shelter. It was so, it was so fun. And who knows, I'll probably do that again. The other thing you can, like, for, there's this one person who like is training for a marathon. So he would actually run like, 20 different dogs in the shelter every day, and he'd run them for a mile-ish, and so he could get his like he could get different lengths of running in and get the dogs to exercise. So it's just something like you can do, obviously, in the winter in Canada, no, but now it's nice.Sabrina Magnan 34:34  Here's the problem. I know that my boyfriend would never let me go, because he always says, if you go to a shelter, I know that you're coming home with a puppy, like, there's no way, if they have a little sign that says open for adoption.Lesley Logan 34:48  I promise you won't. Here's why. Your apartment won't let you and most shelters need to see the lease that says you have, you can have a dog, so they're not going to let you take the dog home like it is. I promise you, you're in a safe like you, they won't, they won't let you take a dog that they're afraid they're gonna get back. So you will be fine.Sabrina Magnan 35:08  Hilarious. Lesley Logan 35:09  All right, we'll take a brief break and then find out how people can find you, follow you, or work with you.Lesley Logan 35:14  All right. Sabrina, where do you like to hang out? Where can people connect more with you if what you have resonated with them?Sabrina Magnan 35:21  Yeah. So if you like to listen to podcasts, which I'm sure that you do, you can head over to my podcast, which is called the Live Unrestricted podcast, which, Lesley, you're going to be a guest on, which I'm so excited about. And you can also find me on Instagram @sabrinamagnanhealth. I have a coaching program called Food Freedom Academy. So if you are struggling with your relationship with food and your body, reach out, connect. I'd love to talk to you. Lesley Logan 35:47  I love it. That is so fun. Yes, you guys, I was interviewed on her podcast. We talked about habits and breaking them, and I think you'll really like it. So you've given us some great tips already, manifestation, like, self-talk. But for those perfectionist, recovering overachievers, those people who are like, okay, what's next, Sabrina? Those we want some bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Sabrina Magnan 36:10  We're talking about actionable things. So I would say, honestly, the first place to start is take out a piece of paper and have two different columns. And one is what I like to write, the old me, and then I'll put down the thoughts, the emotions and the actions that I want to leave behind. And a lot of this we've talked about self-talk. It could be the way that you talk to yourself, right? I'm such a failure. I can never stick to anything. I'm not good enough. Everyone is so much better than me. Get that down on paper and say, okay, that's, I'm bringing my awareness to this. So every time that I notice that that thought starts to pop up, I know we're not doing that anymore. And then on the second side of the paper could be the future me, and that's what you're going to replace those thoughts, those emotions and those actions with. Because what this really does is it helps you pinpoint those things that you want to bring to your conscious awareness. Because, as we said, before, these things happen unconsciously, they are on autopilot. You've been practicing them so many times that you don't have to think about speaking negatively to yourself. You've gone really, really good at it. So we need to interrupt that automatic pattern. We need to bring it up to our conscious awareness and decide we're not doing that anymore, and we are going to take the actions necessary in order to reframe into something different.Lesley Logan 37:40  Yes, I love that. Thank you for that. What a great tip. That's a great thing to do. You guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Make sure you tag Sabrina. Tag the Be It Pod. Send this to a friend who needs to hear it. 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Lesley Logan kicks off this episode with a tribute to trailblazer Shirley Chisholm, setting the tone for a reflection on choosing your own path—especially when things feel chaotic. From restarting a business in a new country to finishing 15 months of self-growth, Lesley celebrates wins from the community that show the power of persistence. She also shares her own win—making a major business decision from a place of clarity, not pressure. If you've been chasing someone else's timeline, this episode is a gentle nudge to pause and realign with what's right for you. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? How's it going? We're like, midway through this April month, we're cruising right along. There's a lot going on and I love that you are taking time in the chaos to listen to this podcast. It doesn't grow without you. Every time you listen, every time you download, you are helping other people hear this podcast as well. So it's inspiration episode, and I want to highlight this Female Quotient post Shirley Chisholm was the first black woman elected to Congress, the first black woman to run for president, and an example for generations to come. Shirley Chisholm was a force of change in American politics as the first black woman elected to Congress in 1968 and the first woman and first black candidate to seek the Democratic presidential nomination in 1972. She shattered barriers as she fought for racial and gender equality. Even decades later, she continues to inspire others to bring that folding chair to tables that may not save them a seat. Definitely a trailblazer. And I would say, if you haven't ever read about her, she is absolutely, really worthy of listening to something about and just diving in because this woman faced so many obstacles, not just because she was a woman, but she was a black woman, and she made a chair for herself, and she kept doing it and she's an inspiration for everyone, and also not letting people who had weird rules about what she couldn't, can and can't do, stop her from realizing a dream and raising that path. And so I just share that with you, because when there's a lot going on in the world, it can kind of feel like, what does my goal even matter? Why am I even doing this? Does it even matter? And the truth is, is that maybe 50 years down the road, we're gonna be looking back at the things that you did, because you were an impact for people who needed it. And if what you do is going to help others, then you gotta talk about it. You gotta do it. You cannot let people and obstacles and rules hold you back. Cannot. And so anyways, I hope that you know a lot about Shirley, but if you don't go research her, she'll blow your mind. Lesley Logan 2:43  Okay, your wins. So, we have Sonia. She's an eLevate grad and agency member. She wrote, the last six months have been a huge whirlwind of emotions, stress, happiness, physically and mentally exhausting, but also exciting and full of hope and happiness. After moving country, we finally bought a new home. We moved in this week. While there's been a lot of work, it's also super exciting. We're already talking about plans to build a home studio so I can restart my business here. It will take some time and at quite a cost, but in the long run, will be worth it. Oh, and I also scored myself some part time contract to work at a beautiful physio-Pilates studio, teaching just three mornings a week. The setup is similar to a Joe's gym. Everyone has their own program, and I'm there just to queue, adjust, advise. I went to observe one class. It was so nice to be being background equipment and people who love it as much as I do. And since doing eLevate, I was desperate to get in and change things. Haha. Although very aware I need to do this slowly and cautiously. So my win is for an exciting and busy 2025 getting my home and my business up and running. Sonia, it's so fun. I mean, I can't believe how long you've lived in your new country. And you know, I know that finding a home was just taking forever, and it kind of probably felt like you, when were you gonna find something. So, I'm just so happy that you and your family have that. But also, I want to say for everyone listening, you hear a win, and you don't realize all the emotions that went into that win. And so I love that Sonia shared these emotions that go into this win, because it isn't all unicorns and sparkly rainbows. And so you have to really, actually celebrate what is happening and what is in your control, and how that can make the year possible, even if it feels like it started off slow, right? Lesley Logan 4:22  MelissaYNagai, she has been an agency member since day one, and she wrote, 15 months of getting online every Tuesday and Thursday morning for a course is complete. I don't know what I'm going to do with myself now. Probably a good time to do Pilates. Today is my last day of teaching for the holidays. I start back up on January 6. I had my best year ever. So obviously, we're celebrating Melissa four months after her best year ever. But can we just take a moment? Do you ever end a year realizing all that you did do? And I can tell you, because I know Melissa, and we work with her a lot, it wasn't like everything went perfectly this year. She had a lot of ups and downs, and with that, she stayed the course. She was consistent. She had her best year ever, and she did that while she poured into herself and her education. So my loves, where can you pour into yourself and where can you take time to reflect on what you did do? Congratulations, Melissa. You have been working so hard year after year. You always beat yourself, but I love that was your best year ever, and I love how you feel good and that you're taking a break as one should, or that you did take a break as one should, because we all need breaks. Lesley Logan 5:26  And that's my win. Last week, Brad and I took a big break. We had a crazy end of February, beginning of March, lot going on, and I had a big decision to make about one of our products for 2026 and I had told the team that I would make the decision around this time, and I really was like, you cannot pressure me. I need you just to wait. I'll tell you around this date, because I want to make sure that I'm not making the decision based on income. I'm not making the decision based on pressure, based on letting people down, that I'm making the decision based on what is right for me, because what is right for me will be right for the company. And so I'm really celebrating that we took a weekend off, even though we had a million things that we could be doing, and that I made a decision from a pause, because there's power in a pause, and I made a decision based on what was right for me, and then everyone, and not on pressure of what's expected of me, and that's really not easy to do as a recovering perfectionist and overachiever and a firstborn daughter. So help that win inspires you. Take a weekend off, guys, if you want to know, we actually plan one weekend every quarter is off, like it's just like Friday to Monday, it's off. And I prefer it to not be a holiday weekend, because we would get a holiday weekend off anyways. So I want a, I want a different weekend. I want a different weekend. Lesley Logan 6:45  All right, your mantra. My energy gets wasted when I invest in winning anyone's game but my own. My energy gets wasted when I invest in winning anyone's game but my own. My loves, invest in yourself. Thank you for listening to this podcast that goes in the investment bucket of inspiration for you and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 7:11  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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In dieser Episode erklärt Martin Auerswald, warum OPC zu den stärksten natürlichen Antioxidantien gehört und wie es gezielt zur Förderung deiner Herz-Kreislauf-Gesundheit, Hautregeneration und Immunabwehr eingesetzt werden kann. Erfahre, wie OPC wirkt, wo es vorkommt und worauf du bei der Einnahme achten solltest.

Jose Acevedo didn't set out to be a storyteller—but life had other plans. In this insightful recap, Lesley and Brad reflect on his deep commitment to community, the unexpected lessons of fatherhood, and how honoring your roots can guide your purpose. Tune in for a powerful reminder that connection is built one story—and one step—at a time. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:What to actually use (or substitute) when starting Pilates at home.Why storytelling is essential for culture and connection.How fatherhood reshaped Jose's mission and mindset.The value of flexible goals and steady routines.How legacy is built through small, meaningful actions.Episode References/Links:April UK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukSpring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comFinding Arizona Website - https://findingarizonapodcast.comFinding Arizona Podcast - https://beitpod.com/findingarizonaFinding Arizona YouTube - https://beitpod.com/findingarizonayoutubeEp. 499 wit Kristen McGuiness - https://beitpod.com/kristenmcguinessEp. 5 with Amy Ledin - https://beitpod.com/amyledin If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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But I also think, like, don't get discouraged when you find yourself noodling in on the goal and the deadline gets moved, it doesn't mean you failed, right? Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:56  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the inspirational convo I had with Jose Acevedo. I wanted to say, like defining convo, or the journey, a discovery, because, I mean, like that, he's the host of Finding Arizona, and that kind of just makes sense. But anyways, he's so fabulous, and it was such a fun conversation. You were on it? Yeah. We had a great time. Brad Crowell 1:20  No, no, I was on his. Lesley Logan 1:21  Oh, you were on. I was like, how are you recapping? You were there, but anyways, you were on his with me. Got it. I'm here, you guys. I, we had a really good time. So you want to listen to that episode and also listen to episode Brad and I were on with Finding Arizona, but. Brad Crowell 1:37  Which was his episode 435. Why do I know that? Great question, but I do.Lesley Logan 1:43  Wow. That is, I don't know, like 435. So you guys, before we get into Jose's amazingness. Today is April 17th 2025 and it's the International Day of Mastering Conversations That Matter. Okay. Brad Crowell 1:55  That's what it is. Lesley Logan 1:56  Let's all learn this together, folks. International Day of Mastering Conversations That Matter is on April 17th, I just said that, but it's okay. Important conversations are the reason why humanity stands where it is today. The ability to communicate is what separates us from all other species in the world. The advancements in medical science and technology testify to what humans are capable of. All these achievements can be traced back to an idea, an idea that was shared, discussed and debated. Important conversations have helped build empires from scratch, and the lack of them has resulted in their fall. Not just empires, but relationships tend to break apart with poor communication. It is important for the survival of the human race to constantly share ideas and bridge gaps. It is important to learn and discuss things in the past so that we have a better tomorrow. Well.Brad Crowell 2:39  So, I couldn't agree more. International Day of Mastering Conversations That Matter. Lesley Logan 2:44  I know but we, you know what? Whoever invented this day, you better go buy a platform so that the other ideas people might want to control actually can come to the top of an algorithm. That's all I'm going to say about that. Brad Crowell 2:57  No, I'm not. I'm going to say a whole lot more. So I'm frustrated that we stop sharing information as a country, especially when it comes to health and medical research. I'm frustrated that. Lesley Logan 3:08  I was gonna say that our country has done a really good job sharing things they shouldn't share, so. Brad Crowell 3:12  Right. They're fucking texting war plans to reporters, but they're not willing to share information among hospitals so that they can make the right flu vaccine. It's mind blowing to me. And the reality is that when we stop sharing medical information with the rest of the world with an isolationist policy, we are putting ourselves at risk, because the next pandemic, we might not have any forewarning, because since we're not sharing information with them, they're certainly not going to share information with us. Lesley Logan 3:38  People have already just said they, you can't share with us anymore, because you can't trust that we'll do the right thing with it.Brad Crowell 3:43  Well, that's with spy stuff, but like, healthcare stuff, don't we want to know if there's something coming? Don't we want to know these things? And I think that when we wall ourselves off, when we think that we're better than the rest of the world and that we're going to be better off by pretending the rest of the world doesn't exist, we're deluding ourselves. Lesley Logan 3:58  Yeah, I think every Be It listener is like nodding along. I mean, I don't think you listen to this podcast if you think people should be deported who are just here living. Anyway. Brad Crowell 4:07  Well, so, so honestly, how do we fix this? Like, how do we. Lesley Logan 4:10  Okay, do we have steps? Brad Crowell 4:12  Yeah, we do. And the reality is, if you're in the United States with us, we live in a representative republic. We call it democracy. But the reality is, we don't get to vote every day, you and I as normal citizens, we voted for someone to go to the Congress for us, to represent us, to vote for us. And they vote all the time. They vote on things all the time on our behalf, right? And the only way that we have any power right now between the election cycles where we vote those people in or out, such as the president of the United States, or our congressperson or house of representatives person, the only way that we have power today is to call them and to make sure they know what we think. Right? It's the only power that we have until the elections come back around. And that's the best possible thing that you can do, is to make it known to the people who represent us what we care about, right? The more of us that call and contact our reps, the better, because the reality is that.Lesley Logan 5:07  Whether you voted for them or not, they work for you. Brad Crowell 5:10  That's right, whether you voted for them or not, they work for you, and especially if you're in their district or their region, right? If you're in their state, if they're the senator, then they represent the whole state. The house also represents the whole state, but local, there's local governments as well. Lesley Logan 5:22  But you, just because you didn't, if you were like, I think my person's an asshole, you should still be a nail in their, thorn on their side, a thorn on their side, a nail and a thorn on their side the same time. Also, you guys, go to city council meetings like a handful of assholes go, and you can be there to be the person. So I also wanted to say. Brad Crowell 5:39  That's more local, but yes, absolutely. Lesley Logan 5:41  I'm getting this woman on the pod. Just don't you worry, I'm so fucking, I'm a fan girl and a fan girl. She's so smart. I'm not lesbian, but this girl is so smart, if I was, I'd want to learn from her every day. Anyways, her podcast is called Unlearn16: Class is in Session. Her wife, she's got a wife, but I'm not trying to get in on this. But I was listening to her. Lesley Logan 5:59  I don't think any of us were assuming that. Okay. Lesley Logan 6:01  I was listening to her podcast, because it came up and I was like, okay, class is in session. That's how it goes. I was and I would listen to it, and I was like, oh, I kind of know about democracy stuff. No, you guys, you guys. She lays out what is a democracy. She explains it for Canada and the U.S., and she explains what are the pillars that create one? What has to be in there? To me, going on a conversation that matter, I think you have to actually know what a true democracy is, to actually have a conversation with someone who's trying to take things away. And so her episode that came out today, not today, when you're listening, a month ago, but though it's called The One Where I Make Democracy Behind the Scenes. I love her titles. They're all like that. So it's Unlearned16: Class is in Session, fuck yeah, The One Where I Make Democracy Behind the Scenes, I learned a ton, and she's a Canadian High School teacher, so clearly my teachers didn't do great job. But that's okay. I think it goes with the topic. Okay. Brad Crowell 6:53  All right, moving on. Lesley Logan 6:54  Go have a conversation that matters. Brad Crowell 6:55  Thank you for listening. I'm gonna get off my soapbox here. Here's what we've got coming up on our travel schedule. Lesley Logan 7:02  Right now. Brad Crowell 7:03  You're currently, Lesley is currently gone from our house. She's recording from the stars. Lesley Logan 7:08  I know, I'm like living it up in Santa Barbara.Brad Crowell 7:11  She's in Santa Barbara, y'all.Lesley Logan 7:11  I'm at the beach. I'm filming for Pilates Anytime again. Thank you to everyone at Pilates Anytime who loves my stuff. We got a bunch of classes coming at you. I'm really excited for what we have with Pilates Anytime. And when I come back a few days later and it's spring training.Brad Crowell 7:25  Well, yes, if you are in the U. K. or in the E.U., Lesley and I are coming in September, and we want to make sure you know about it. So go to opc.me/uk, opbc.me/uk, we're going to be teaching in the UK. It's just a short flight for those of you who are across the pond there. I mean, the channel, really. Lesley Logan 7:44  Which pond? Brad Crowell 7:45  Yeah, the channel. Lesley Logan 7:46  You know, people on the East Coast to (inaudible) that is the pond. And also, it is so easy for you. We're doing double.Brad Crowell 7:54  Yeah, six hours, but anyway, y'all should come join us. We don't get there very often, and we're really fired up to be coming back. We're going to be in Leeds and in Essex, and it's gonna be awesome. So come join us on the Mullet Tour, opc.me/uk, and then at the end of this month, Spring Training. That's OPC's Spring Training. It's our first ever annual event for Spring Training. And what is Spring Training?Lesley Logan 8:17  So, Spring Training is kind of like how baseball has a couple weeks of playing each other, and it doesn't really matter. So. Brad Crowell 8:23  Preseason, baby. Lesley Logan 8:24  Preseason. So this is like a Pilates week of spring training. And the theme this week for this one is The Push-Up. And so we're planking, and we're talking about it, but all the classes are going to be around building up your push-up, which, by the way, Joe put at the end of the mat order. So,why? You could stand up and walk away from your practice and be really awesome and top. So it's really cool. Everything's going to lead gonna lead to that. You don't have to be a Pilates enthusiast to even join us. There's a mat ticket, so meaning you just go to the mat classes, because that's all you have access to, is some room on your floor. And then there's an all access ticket, which gets you the 10 classes. And that will be mat, reformer, tower, Cadillac, chair. Obviously, if you only have a reformer or mat, you still want the all access that's gonna be at the six, the price is so cheap, you won't, you don't even need to worry that you don't have the other pieces of equipment. Brad Crowell 9:08  But here's what you do want. We're gonna make it even more reasonable if you're on the waitlist so that you can get that really bird discount. So go to opc.me/events, opc.me/events, come join us. It's gonna be a heck of a party. We're doing that this year instead of Summer Camp, okay? Lesley Logan 9:26  Because we're doing summer tours and winter tours, and we needed a different season. Brad Crowell 9:30  Yeah, we wanted a different season. So, if you are a Pilates business owner in any way, meaning you're taking money from anyone for any reason, whether that's in your home or in the park, or you have a studio. If you are the one that's actually taking the money from a client, you're technically a business owner. So come join us for a free webinar where we're gonna help support you with the growth of that business. We're gonna help you understand, how do I get more clients? How do I raise my rates? How does it all work? Like, how do we actually make this happen? This is for brand new people. It's also for people who've had like a studio for 20 years with a major team, because we kind of just stumble our way through this. There wasn't anybody guiding us. And Lesley and I have had the chance over the past seven years to stand alongside more than 2500 business owners, just like you, and go through the mud with them, try to figure out the problems that they're experiencing, problem clients or problem lease holders, or my insurance or my marketing is terrible. I don't have any people coming in. My phone stopped ringing. My website isn't bringing clients. All these kinds of things. We've had the opportunity to be there right alongside people in trenches, and from that, we've pulled three major secrets that we want to share with you. So come join me for this free webinar. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot B-I-Z slash accelerator. And finally.Lesley Logan 10:50  We're going to Cambodia in October, and we want you to come. Do not pass go. Just go straight to crowsnestretreats.com and snag your spot. Stay at our house, do Pilates with us, go see the temples of Ankor and all the other ones that are surrounding it that most people don't see. They fly all the way there and they don't see it. They just go on by. They don't even see it. We're gonna take you there. And we're gonna go to Lotus Farm and do all these different things.Brad Crowell 11:10  Actually, this upcoming one, y'all, we have a new temple that, that's not new for them, but a new one for Lesley and I. It's a new temple they built last week. Brad Crowell 11:19  New thousand-year-old temple. Brad Crowell 11:21  Lesley and I've never been to this temple, and I was, we were driving by it in our retreat earlier this year, and I asked our tour guide, like, hey, what's the story with this temple? How come we always skip it? And she said, we just run out of time. But let's make this a priority. So in October, this upcoming October, we're going to be adding one more temple to the list that Lesley and I haven't even visited. I'm very excited. I'm like, super, super excited about it. It's gonna be amazing. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com and make your deposit today, right now, to save your spot, because space is limited. Lesley Logan 11:54  Okay, we gotta get into the interview with Jose, but before that, we have an audience question, don't we, Brad? Brad Crowell 11:59  Yes. Ilikecats123BB from YouTube asks, hey, do I need any equipment for the mat Pilates classes on OPC other than the mat?Lesley Logan 12:11  I love this question, because I think it's really easy to think, oh my God, I'm gonna have to have all these different things to get started in Pilates. Most of the props that someone could use in a Pilates mat class you can use from your house. So I even create it for the accessories deck. So technically, no, you can do mat Pilates without anything. Joe created it. So you just need you and your mat. And if you want to invest in your Pilates practice, like the mat is where I'm a, with the OPC episode that's coming out, everyone's like, I'm a mat rat. I'm like, okay, we need to come up with a different animal. I don't want to be a mat rat, but like, we were all like, I'm a mat rat. I only love the mat. So anyway, if that's who you are, you might want to invest eventually in a Contrology mat with handles and a strap, because it does change your practice, especially for the advanced exercises. But if you're never going overhead, you don't need to make that investment. So you technically don't need anything. However, one pound weights, a squishy ball, like a fitness ball, you let the air out of in a magic circle, and a heavy duty TheraBand, those things. Brad Crowell 13:08  How about a block? Lesley Logan 13:10  Ah, no, the squishy ball.Brad Crowell 13:12  Squishy ball instead of block. Lesley Logan 13:13  It's not yoga. Brad Crowell 13:14  Got it. Lesley Logan 13:14  Yeah. No. You use the squishy ball because you'd put the block between your ankles, and it's not gonna be as fun as a squishy ball. They just squish, it would be really great. So. Brad Crowell 13:21  But what if you don't have one pound weights? Lesley Logan 13:23  You can use water bottles. Brad Crowell 13:24  What? Fill it with water? Lesley Logan 13:26  And if you don't have.Brad Crowell 13:27  Or like beans? Lesley Logan 13:29  You can use beans, just make sure the same beans, you know, like.  Brad Crowell 13:31  I got tomato in here, I got apple seeds in here. Lesley Logan 13:32  I had a client using two beers, you know, two cans of beers. And I was like, just put it back in the fridge after you're done. You're not gonna want to open those up. Brad Crowell 13:39  That's brilliant. Lesley Logan 13:39  Yeah, just make sure they're the same product, so that the weight of them is the same. But one pound is what we're going for. If you don't have a TheraBand, you can use an old pair of leggings. If you don't have a squishy ball, you can use a couch cushion or a dog's toy, kid's toy. Your kids probably have a ball that you could let some air out of. You know, a magic circle. That's the harder one. You kind of do have to buy that, but there's so many cheap ones now it's pretty easy to grab one of those. Brad Crowell 14:02  Yeah, totally. Well, awesome. Great question, Ilikecats. Lesley Logan 14:05  By the way, if you go to onlinepilatesclasses.com you can join OPC for 40 days for $40 and guess what? You can experience several weeks of mat classes of ours. You can ask questions. You can send in a video of you doing a mat exercise, and I'll give you feedback on your form.Brad Crowell 14:18  Okay, I just want to take a super quick pause, and I want to call this out. There is no other platform on the Internet where you can submit a specific video of you saying what am I doing here, am I doing it right, and get feedback from certified Pilates instructors. There's no other place online, okay? So OPC has something that is magical that not enough people take advantage of. So come join OPC, and then if you're struggling with an exercise, no problem. We are here to support you. We excludes me. I'm not a certified Pilates instructor. Lesley Logan 14:53  And I give you like other things that you can do. I'm like, oh, go grab this and go do it like this. And so you just have more homework. It's really like having a private session for nothing, you pay nothing. You just be a member.Brad Crowell 15:04  Well, stick around. We're gonna be right back. We're gonna dig into this fantastic convo we had with Jose Acevedo and Finding Arizona. BRB. Brad Crowell 15:13  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about Jose Acevedo. Jose is the host of finding Arizona, a podcast spotlighting entrepreneurs, creators and leaders, shaping Arizona's local landscape. Driven by a genuine love for connection and community, he provides guests with a welcoming platform to share their journeys in their own words. What began as a screen printing passion project ultimately drew Jose into podcasting where he found his true calling, giving people space to tell their stories. Today, he and his wife Britt run the show together, making Finding Arizona a thriving hub for inspiration and local voices. And funny enough, Lesley and I had the opportunity to be interviewed on that podcast, even though we don't live in Arizona, but we actually go to Arizona pretty regularly, a couple times a year, usually. That's where we got a chance to meet them. We were down there speaking at an event. Britt and Jose were also speaking at the same event, and we had a chance to just chit-chat with them off stage. And it was great. And that's how we connected with them. Yeah, Finding Arizona is cool because it's, it really grew organically. And I think. Lesley Logan 16:15  I also think what a great if you're just going to visit Arizona, what a great podcast to go listen to. You can go through the different, they have so many episodes, you can search through it. They're a wealth of knowledge of different local businesses and entrepreneurs and really supportive. And I think that's what makes you want to go to a place. It's like when you can know the insiders spaces to go, the coffee shops, the pizza restaurants, all that kind of stuff, like, who's doing what? Just think it's really, really impressive. I love that our conversation with Jose, I think he's, first of all, the nicest person. I think he might be the softest, but I don't mean soft like he doesn't have about, I just mean like, his energy is soft, his voice is soft, like, he's just endearing. I really enjoy him. So anyways, he talked about storytelling, and he said, like, what it can do for society and culture that has been on this earth for so long and has thrived just from hearing these stories and using that as a religion, and that kind of goes into the day that we're kind of celebrating right now, the conversations that matter, so, good job, Brad. And he talked a little bit about his grandfather, an elder in the Hopi community, so we're First Nation, and he got to, in like that community, from what I understand about people who are native, and like they're grandkids of a native, everyone talks about the storytelling, and they learn so much through storytelling. And so I think it's really cool that Jose learned that from his grandfather and from his culture and from his community, and then is using that for other people. So I really enjoyed, I really enjoyed him talking about the importance of storytelling and (inaudible).Brad Crowell 17:44  He talked about how it shapes religion and culture and society, and how he was really impacted by that. And then. Lesley Logan 17:51  I think that's like, one of the things that I wanted to even have him on is not just, let's talk about Finding Arizona, but how do you get into being this person and like that be it till you see it, and it's like, well, I'm starting with storytelling. I wanted to tell the stories. And I just think that that's like, you know, most of us are wondering, like, what we could do at this point, and you could, you could tell stories about experience that have happened in your life and the lives before you. And that's how we learn, and that's how we keep, that's how we keep repeating the past.Brad Crowell 18:14  Yeah, it's how we remember the past too. I mean, it's how you do everything all the way up to sell. It's how you sell these stories. You know, people are captivated by stories. It's why the movie industry is so powerful and big and huge, and podcasts are, you know, like even happening, right? It's all about storytelling. It's fun to see that his excitement for storytelling shaped who he's become today and what he does today. So I really loved where you started talking about fatherhood. He said fatherhood has changed a lot about how I see the world, how I perceive the world, how I go about the world. He said becoming a father shifted his entire perspective on life and his purpose. He wants his son to grow up seeing a world filled with opportunity, with kindness and meaningful conversations. And he shared a story where he said podcasting has affected his family in the perception of even his son is now like, are you gonna go have a conversation? Are you gonna go have a podcast now? You know, and his son's like, three, and so it's helping him share this concept of storytelling with his son, and his son gets to see how much his dad loves to do this and all this kind of stuff. And Jose's approach to work and life has been influenced by this idea of setting a positive example, right? Because now he's intentionally meeting people he doesn't know. He's asking questions, he's being curious, he's demonstrating all these things. Rather than chasing success for personal gain, he sees his work as a way to build a legacy for his son, and he said he wanted him to know that there are good people out there and there's a community that will back him. Lesley Logan 19:47  I mean, we've talked about this before with other women on this show, like we talked about it with Kristen, the episode, I think 500, 501 it's so good for your kids to see you in the world doing the thing that you love, because it lets them know what's possible, but also, like, they do learn from it, they do pick it up, right? Amy Ledine said in her episode five, actions are caught not taught, and so I think it's just really cool. I love that he picked that up and he shared that with everyone. Brad Crowell 20:13  Yeah, well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into Be It Action Items that Jose shared and very heartfelt, so we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 20:22  All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Jose Acevedo? He said t,ry your best to set a big goal, but also make sure that you're taking those routines that are going to help you achieve that big goal, right? Do small steps forward. Also, you have to allow yourself for your goal to shift over time and move, but along the way, you still have to be taking steps, right? Here's a good example. We set a goal to take our physical products and sell them in another country, right? And at first it was like, oh, we have this opportunity. We should do this right now. We gotta go, go, go, go, go, go, go. You know. And someone on our team was like, hey, wait a minute. We have a lot of other things going on. We probably could pull this off. However, what do we do with these other things? Should we be back burning them? And I was like, oh, wait, wait a minute, you know, is it really necessary for us to go, go, go, go, go right now with this thing, or can we delay that launch of that initiative in a time where the team can handle the workload, the marketing calendar is a little more open, we can have a better conversation about it with our customers, and so it still allows us to go after that big goal, but just in a different way. Lesley Logan 21:38  And also we can adjust the routines to make sure that that goal happens, and then talking about it, we actually got to explore like, well, is there another way to achieve this goal, to test the goal, to even experiment with it. So I love big, badass, bodacious goals. BHAGs. Brad Crowell 21:53  Forgot about those. Lesley Logan 21:54  Forgot about the episode number, but it's a great one. But I also think, like, don't get discouraged when you find yourself noodling in on the goal and the deadline gets moved, it doesn't mean you failed, right? It didn't mean it. So I love that. I love it. Jose mentioned a life responds to effort. He said, if you look back on the little steps you're taking, you'll actually see that you're providing yourself the opportunity to move forward. And so if you're not making an effort, you're not moving anywhere. You're kind of stagnant. But when you make little, tiny steps, even if, for this particular goal that Brad is talking about, some of the steps are like literally doing nothing for a couple of weeks, like a conversation. I'm having a conversation. But as long as we take those little steps, it's like peeling an onion back. We get to another layer of working towards that goal, very different than going, okay, well, I love this goal. It's gonna happen in September, and then not talking about it again for until August, that would be stagnation, and the goal isn't going to move forward in September because we didn't take the little steps along the way. So I really think that's really great. I think whenever I talk about habits, it's always like tiny habits works, and a lot of us are this all or nothing people. If I'm not doing everything toward making this goal happen, then I'm doing nothing. That's not how it goes. So, anyways. Brad Crowell 22:59  That's not how it goes. Lesley Logan 23:00  I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 23:01  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 23:01  Thank you so much for listening today. Thank you, Jose, for being on our episode, our show. You're so wonderful. I hope to run into you in Arizona when we're there for summer tour. You guys, yep, cat's out of the bag. We're gonna, we're probably gonna start our summer tour in Arizona. That's the goal. So, thank you, and you know what to do with this episode. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Go listen to a bunch of episodes we just talked about on this one episode. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 23:25  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 23:27  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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In this heartfelt conversation, Lesley Logan sits down with Jose Acevedo of Finding Arizona to explore how he's spent the last ten years building a podcast rooted in storytelling, culture, and connection—without ever losing sight of the people who matter most. From learning to stay consistent through baby steps to collaborating with his wife and finding deeper meaning through fatherhood, Jose shares the real behind-the-scenes of growing a creative life that feels honest and whole.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How to stay consistent by breaking goals into small steps.Ways to protect your passion project from burnout.How to balance creative work with parenting and partnership.Why storytelling connects us to purpose and builds legacy.When to wait—and why not rushing your creative dream can keep it joyful.Episode References/Links:Finding Arizona Website - https://findingarizonapodcast.comFinding Arizona Podcast - https://beitpod.com/findingarizonaFinding Arizona YouTube - https://beitpod.com/findingarizonayoutubeBig Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert - https://a.co/d/1ze2Db3Guest Bio:Jose Acevedo is the host and creator of Finding Arizona, a podcast dedicated to spotlighting the people and businesses that make Arizona a vibrant, ever-evolving community. With over a decade of podcasting experience, Jose has interviewed hundreds of local entrepreneurs, creatives, and changemakers, capturing the heart of their stories through authentic, thoughtful conversation. His background in landscape architecture gives him a unique approach to storytelling—one rooted in structure, curiosity, and connection.What began as a solo passion project has since grown into a collaborative family endeavor. Alongside his wife and producer, Brittany Acevedo, Jose has transformed Finding Arizona into a full-fledged media brand. Together, they co-founded The Found House, a creative production studio offering podcast and video services to local businesses and aspiring creators. 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It's like, I love this thing. It makes me feel good. I get passion from, I get creativity from it and that was my motivation. That was it. It's like having the next conversation.Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:56  Hi, Be It babe. Okay, this was such a fun interview to do. I had the pleasure of meeting our guest and his wife when Brad and I were at this, we're invited to this thing that I'm gonna not, I'm not gonna lie, we're invited to this thing. You probably heard us talk about it back around the April, May time, and we're like, how do we get invited to do this? Like, what are we doing here? We're not even experts in this area, and we had to Be It Till We See It in that space in the moment, and that's when we met Jose and Britt and they're the podcast hosts of Finding Arizona. Brad and I had the pleasure of being on their podcast. Yes, Brad, that our Brad was on a podcast. You guys, he is a performer, and we hide him behind a camera, but we really shouldn't, because he's so amazing. So anyways, I am super excited for you to hear Jose and I talk about podcasting, about starting something new, so you don't have to, even you don't turn this off if you're like, I never run a podcast. I think it's really cool to hear how people come up with ideas and then see yourself in that story. So we talk about starting a podcast, what it's like to start something that we have no accountability around, we have to create it ourselves. So if you're someone who has a hard time with that, like, hearing the story, and then also, we talk a lot about goal setting and working with your partner and kiddos and what's next. So this is just a really, I feel like you probably are gonna feel like you're having coffee with Jose and I. So here is the host of Finding Arizona, Jose Acevedo. Lesley Logan 2:21  All right, Be It babe. This is fun. It's always fun for me when I get to talk to a fellow podcaster, but it's really fun when I really know that podcaster and we have a great story and we have a great vibe. Jose Acevedo, you are our guest today. You are the host of Finding Arizona. And, you guys, don't worry if you don't know where Arizona is, we're gonna talk more of than just Arizona today. But can you tell us who you are and what you rock at?Jose Acevedo 2:44  Yeah, my name is Jose Acevedo. I am a podcaster, and I'm also, like, a fan of you, Lesley. Thank you so much for having me, and I'm just again, I'm a true cheerleader for the locals here who are doing what they love to do their passion projects, everything in between, from nonprofit to high CEOs in the corporate areas. We want to get to know them, their story and how they come into the world, and how they journey across and make an effort to be a community member here in Arizona. Lesley Logan 3:14  So I feel like you are the greatest cheerleader, like you have curiosity. You're excited about what people are doing, and you want to share their stories, is that something that you went to school for, is that something you've always done? You don't even do in a podcast but everybody else's stuff, like, where did that come from? Jose Acevedo 3:29  Yeah, so I spent a bit of my life on the East Coast, and that's where my father and my mother took me to go really early on in my childhood to really kind of give me an opportunity. A. they wanted to get out of the heat of Arizona, but B. they wanted to move to other places where their children could learn and grow and kind of get a unique sense of the world. And then when I moved again for the second time, and this was a very significant point in my life, I was going away from being an adolescent to a kind of a teenager and into the kind of adulthood. And we moved back to my mom's Indian Reservation, and that is near the four corners here in Arizona. It's the Hopi Reservation, and I knew very little, to almost nothing, about my heritage and my Hopi culture. And so that was a very big, pivotal learning point about who I am as an individual, who I want to be as a man in the future. And the biggest kind of teacher in that was my grandfather, who was an elder in the community, who held a lot of stories, and who also really loved storytelling. And that was really kind of that moment of like, really crux of getting to understand what storytelling meant and what its importance was, what it can do for a society and a culture that has been on this earth for so long and has thrived just from hearing these stories and using that as a religion. And so for me, I had to very much dive deep into, you know, these different types of elements of storytelling, but how they also relate to my own life. And it was hard. It was definitely something very significant where I pushed back on it at points. I definitely had my moments of, like, teen angst and those types of things, but I also learned a lot about who I am and who my people are and what I want to give back into this world and give back into society and culture. So that was a really big point in my life, of like, learning about who I am and who my culture was. Then I came down to Phoenix and went to college, and really kind of stumbled upon podcasting as kind of this new wave of having a dialog and having conversation and actually storytelling to the masses, but also having these intimate conversations with individuals. So really, how it turned out to be what it is today is I was having conversations with business owners about their business through screen printing. I was screen printing T-shirts for these different owners, and I would just have a really fun time having these conversations and really getting to, like, go back and forth with them, getting to know them and what they're about and all these things. And they seem to really enjoy it. I'd get comments like, Oh, I really love this conversation. Thank you for having with me. Thank you for showing interest. Oh, you should be a news reporter, or you should be on the radio. All these types of compliments. And really, it dawned on me, when I was screen printing their shirts and listening to other podcasts that I'm like, really enjoying of like, oh, I should just do this. This has always been fun for me to listen to. I should at least attempt to do these conversations, to record them. So that that kind of snowballed into had to learn how to record, had to learn how to edit, had to learn how to do a website, how to like, upload them and just create this thing that I thought was cool that now has now become a big part of my life and a big part of my family's life. My wife got involved by meeting me, and I had to tell her, can't really go out on dates on weekends, because I'm doing this thing, recording and editing and all these things. And she was like, oh, I love podcasts. Let me listen to it. And so that has now turned into her becoming my producer. And now my son has just been born three years ago during the pandemic, and we were doing a lot of zoom calls, and now he knows that when Dada goes to work, it's like a lot of the times it's podcasting. So he's like, Dada, you go do podcasts? And it's just been really that thing that has affected me on a personal level, but me on a grander scale of legacy.Lesley Logan 7:45  I mean, and you've been doing this for 10 years, Finding Arizona, so like, y'all, we've been only podcasting for about three and a half years at this point. Podcasting has been around for a really long time, but so few people knew how to find the app on their phone and knew what it was and what I just, thank you for sharing the journey, because it's so cool you were already doing something, and then people were like, this is really cool you do this. And so you took it, and I, so many people are like, how did you come with this idea? How did you come with this idea? Y'all listen to what people are saying you're really great at, or complimenting you on, because that's what they think you're great at. And it becomes, it's so easy and natural for you, you don't see it as an opportunity or something that's unique, because it's natural to you. But what a cool gig. I love it. And also, the people are already coming to you. So you're like, what is this shirt for this automobile thing? How did they do it? I love that also, thank you for sharing your show about your grandfather. I think there's a book called Sapiens, and I didn't read the whole thing, you guys, it's really long. I kept it. I haven't given it away because I swear to pick it up. But what they say is that humans actually stayed in existence because of storytelling, and I do think that, you know, the Native Americans have really shown us that storytelling is really how we keep, we understand what happened in our past. We understand we're going to like, we understand things on a bigger level than just us as humans and I think it's so beautiful. So thank you for sharing all of that. Jose Acevedo 9:10  Of course.Lesley Logan 9:10  Okay, you had to learn all these things to be a podcaster. You all who are trying to make something new happen your life, whenever we say podcast and you can insert what you are doing, trying to be. What was it like having the first interview? Because you already were good at it, because you'd ask people question, but then you had to, like, hit record. Were you shaking in your boots? Did it feel easy? Did you re-record it? Tell us about it.Jose Acevedo 9:32  So I think you're absolutely right when it comes to these very, we had this conversation on my podcast and just off air, where I feel sometimes I'm like, I'm so nervous and flustered because I'm such a fan of people who come on our show, because we do research about these people, and we're like, oh, they're so cool. They're like, this and that. And so I get nervous just because I have this excitement about me. So yes, my very first episode where I said to myself, yes, I want to record. I want to do this. I want to make it a thing. I actually did it with my boss, like of the screen printing shop, because I felt like A. we had a great dynamic. We were just really fun and chit-chatty with each other. And B. I felt like all of his stories were so funny and so like, dynamic and filled with all of these intrigue and just the way he said things was just so funny to me. And it was, yeah, it was exciting to me to share what he was about. But again, it was like, so nerve wracking, because I didn't know if this was gonna work, or I didn't know if any of my equipment was done right, or if I was like, I'm just shooting myself in the foot. We might have to record and other things, and I was so nervous, and really I just wanted it to be a fun situation, which it was. It was so much fun, and I really look back on it, and was like, oh my gosh, so he was barely paying attention to he's working on other shirts. And I was like, having this conversation while we're interviewing. He was so great, though, because he could do that, and then still have the conversation and throw in the quits, throw in the bits, throw in the funny. Lesley Logan 11:05  It probably made him feel even more comfortable, because he wasn't like, sitting down and professionally recording.Jose Acevedo 11:10  Yeah, his thing. And it was just me saying, hey, can I record this? And then it turned into, I like the way that this felt. I like the feeling of it. I love, was it so great? That was like, did I think it was going to be this Pulitzer Prize winning interview thing? No, but I love the way it felt. I love the way it turned out. And I was like, maybe let's try it again, but let's sit down with someone who's not so busy. It's like someone who's like, a little bit more attentive and paying attention to me in my conversation with them, and it would just go from one client to the next, and I was like, oh, there's a way to like, then you start to pick out like, oh, there's a way to ask this question, or there's a way to steer them into this one area, or they draw their guard down when after the half hour mark. So I should get more personal questions towards the end there. And so if you really learn the dynamics of a conversation and through so much of doing it repetitively and doing the work over and over again.Lesley Logan 12:13  You, you know, that is true. It's also like you're never going to be 10 years version of you versus one year, like, you can't learn the 100 times experience until you've done it 100 times. Like, it's just got to happen. We have to have grace with ourselves. And also, it is true, the more you do it, the more you realize who are fun people to interview. What are the qualities? That person has a great story, but they're not a really good interview. So if we're having a hard time having a conversation, it's not going to go well. Versus, when do I ask the questions that are more personal, that do take more vulnerability? Some people, you know, when you podcast, a lot like we do, I can get vulnerable on an episode pretty early on, because I know what. I know that I can share. I know how it usually goes. But not everyone's like that. Some people are amazing experts, and they do a few podcasts. And so we have to kind of understand when the best time is to to bring things out. I want to know because you started this on your own, and you were also like, let me see how this goes. So how did you hold yourself accountable to releasing the episodes? Because the thing about anything is you have to be consistent, and especially at the time when podcasting wasn't really big, you know, how did you choose to be consistent with something you didn't know what it would be yet?Jose Acevedo 13:27  So, yeah, I, again, I think it goes back to, I think one of the early s tarts in my beginning was like goal setting, like, how do I want this to be a thing, or how do I want this to come out. And so one of the very first conversations that I had was, do I want this to be a weekly? Do I want this to be monthly? Do I want this to be a series? And, you know, how do I want to put out this series? And so I just really kind of more approached it from, uh, that kind of goal setting. Let's start off slow. Let's do it a monthly or let's, you know, I think it was monthly, in the very first beginning of, like, I'm going to have these deep conversations for more than an hour or an hour long, and really hone in on the individual and have those deep realm conversations. And then once I had a few underneath my belt, I really started to say, okay, I think I can push this even further. And, like, really, after the first year, I was like, okay, let's go to every two weeks, like a biweekly. Then it came to like, oh, I am really getting emails from a lot of places that wanted to be on the show or was showing interest. And I was like, okay, well, now I have a lot of interest. And I also, at that point, I started, you know, having someone follow, do the pictures and help me out a little bit. And so I was like, okay, I can do this. I can make this a weekly thing. And so I pushed myself even further to make it a weekly podcast and have these really fun conversations. And also, then we got to some really fun goal setting there, it was like, there was a month that was just filled with farmers, and when we started to really push the envelope on some of these ideas, and had some fun throughout the years that we've been doing it, what, how does this podcast work? Or how does it look like? What do people find interest in? Or what are some of the things that are really pushing the envelope of like how this community works here in Arizona or here in Phoenix particularly, so, it was really kind of listening to the audience, and also goal setting for myself is really what kept me going. And because I had such an intrigue on not only the people who were coming onto the podcast, but an intrigue in making this a business, I think it was kind of easier to say, okay, these are the goals. This is how I want to approach it. This is how I want it to come out. This is how I want it to be seen. And how do I make sure that I get these? Well, it's baby steps. Okay, first you get the yes from the person, then you schedule them, and then do the conversation, and then you set a date of, like, when they're going to come out. And then you make sure you edit in that time frame. It's those little baby steps that'll move you forward and move the the needle here and there. And so it was just, again, one part my my end of like, goal setting and listening to the audience. But two, make sure that you write down your goals and push yourself to reach those goals and make sure that it comes out. Lesley Logan 13:28  Yeah, I love that you mentioned the baby steps, because I think that's where people get a goal set. Then they don't break it down, the baby actions, and then it just feels overwhelming to do. And then they think they need motivation, which is the biggest lie, because that's inconsistent, so. Jose Acevedo 16:24  Yeah, my motivation was the podcast. I love this thing. It makes me feel good. I get passion from, I get creativity from it. And that was my motivation. That was it. It was like having the next conversation. Lesley Logan 16:55  So, do you podcast full time? This is your job now, or do you have other things to do? Jose Acevedo 16:59  I'll be honest. No, this isn't my full time gig, but it feels like a second job or more, but I'll be honest, I, when the pandemic hit, I was working with a landscape architecture firm, and that's what I went to school for, is landscape architecture, and I had a real choice, because we were getting a lot of intrigue in the podcast. But what happened was Brittany got pregnant, and it was the pandemic. She was actually coming out of a job in the healthcare system, and we were really worried, because she would hear horror stories from the healthcare about the pandemic and about people suffering through this thing. Lesley Logan 17:40  Or our healthcare workers were on the front line, and we didn't really have a lot of support for them. We still don't. That didn't change. Jose Acevedo 17:48  And so for me, I was like, oh man, I'm bringing this new life into the world. I need to figure out a way to make sure that he's healthy. And so I took a job at a bigger firm that would allow me to work from home and be with him, but also give me health insurance. And really, I like to say it's I'm not afraid to let go of that job right now to move into podcasting full time. But for the time being, my son is safe, my family's healthy, and we are still working consistently on this podcast, and I have, it hasn't worn on me. It hasn't made me feel tired. I just love what I do, and if I can do this continuously, the way that we have been, I'm okay with that. We're at that pivotal point too. It's like, which one of us is going to let go of their job to go full time with this podcast? And I don't know, we still have this conversation, and I'll be honest, like, all the time, like, who's going to do it? What are we going to do? And we just kind of look at each other and we're like, it's a good problem to have, yeah, but we're still at a standstill. We're still waiting. I think we have a goal set. I think that we have clientele, and once we reach that number of clientele that will allow us to let go of one of the jobs that we work, then we'll move into more full time. And I think that's a good, again, goal setting. Types of things where it's like baby steps, we have an actual number, and once we hit that, then that'll be the key to unlock the door of full time work. And working that podcast full time. Lesley Logan 19:22  Thank you. And also it's, here's the thing. These are all things we have to think about. It's really funny when people know that I'm on YouTube, they're like, oh, you must make so much on YouTube. I'm like, not everyone's it, a full time YouTuber. The amount of money I spend on the payroll to edit the YouTube is not how much I get paid from YouTube. I get paid. I get paid monthly. And I'm so grateful thank you for watching those views. Keep watching, but we glamorize things, and we think, oh, they're doing this. So it must be doing so. And yes, the ads you have, or content fees, or all the different appearances that could all bring an income, but you and I live currently in a place where healthcare isn't a given, and so unfortunately, someone has to have it. And, two, I'll just be really honest guys, someone has to have a W2 in a relationship, because if you both, like our, Brad and I, and you work for the company, no one wants to give you a loan. Like, the hoops. It took us 18 months to get our mortgage, 18 months we could to pay the bill we're already paying, you know. So I share that because it's frustrating. And if you're in that situation, we see you and we hear you, and it's the other thing that we talked about on your podcast, Finding Arizona, is putting pressure on something before it's ready can actually destroy it. Or Big Magic, have you read the book Big Magic? Jose Acevedo 20:36  No. I'm going to write this down. Lesley Logan 20:37  Oh, put it on your list, Elizabeth Gilbert, Eat, Pray, Love girl. So her book, Big Magic, I have read multiple times, and she says, ideas want to be born. So if you have an idea and you don't act on it, someone else will do it, which is why you're like, oh, I had that idea. Like, you didn't do anything about that, right? So there's that. But also, she says, if your idea is artistic, if it's creative and you try to live off of it before it is ready. You will filter, change, correct, make. You might even lower standards or make decisions based on the income you need at the time versus what the art was, the creativity, the vision, the goal was in the first place. So she shares she did not quit her job as a professor, even after she sold Eat, Pray, Love to movies. She really waited until she knew I can live off of me being Elizabeth Gilbert, the writer, and it's really awesome. And I really love that vulnerability, because there is a dream I have where I just get to interview people and go on retreats and, you know, teach my mentorship. But also got a mortgage to pay. I got retirement. Jose Acevedo 20:37  Yeah, you got to work towards it. Lesley Logan 20:37  Yeah. And we got retirement accounts we want to make sure, there's a lot going on. So you have to kind of balance like, am I playing small or am I playing it wise? It's a game of life. Am I making the right decision in this moment for where we want to go? Jose Acevedo 22:08  Yeah, and I feel the exact same way of you bring up this, this idea of baby steps, and I feel like that's where we kind of refocus a lot of the times on and not like we don't want it. It is about putting effort into everyday tasks or everyday things that allow us to move forward and move that needle to the point where we were like, yes, this is everything's pointing to. We can do this now, and we can transition and not feel like again the pressure is come solely on the creative part, the thing that we love doing, and now it has to hold us financially up. It's one of those things where it's like, and I brought this up on our party, it's like, that's what brings me most fears, because I've always loved doing this, and I don't want it to be like this martyr of like, it has to feed me, it has to, you know, pay my bills and all these things where that, when it was in the beginning, was just this fun conversation, this, this fun, light-hearted thing of like, tell me about yourself, tell me why, and to put pressure on it so much to the point where it's like the people ask us, why do you put yourself in a corner by just focusing on Arizona? Well, it's not putting yourself in a corner. It's actually this ever evolving thing that always changes, that always has newcomers, that always has someone. Lesley Logan 23:25  You are never gonna run out of content. Jose Acevedo 23:27  Yeah, never gonna run out of content. And so no, it's not that it's having passion for something that is ever evolving, and wanting to show light on that and give people a chance at the table and give them the mic to recruit for themselves, like advocate for themselves, and have joy for what they created, and all of these things. And I. Lesley Logan 23:45  I mean, you wouldn't run out of content if it was just finding Phoenix like you just wouldn't. And there's like, how many millions of people live in Arizona and then moving to Arizona and leave it like, there's always going to be new options for listeners. And I think don't ever let anyone tell you you niche down too much, because that's not even true. But I think what you guys could challenge yourself is like, what are the fears, and what would it look like if it did work? And then we'll set from there, because that's how, I like to work backwards. When the pandemic hit and we actually had to start from scratch-ish, we already had OPC. It was already in existence, but it wasn't paying our bills. What paid our bills was me touring the world and teaching in real life. So I was like, okay, if this has to pay our bills, how does that look like? What is it? What is it looking to put pressure on this, and how do we do it so we're not making compromises that are not, because what most people want is they want a Netflix option. They want to do Pilates whenever they want to do it. They want to have access to their old class whenever they want. But they don't, because they actually don't use it then. How long have you got whether you don't check one of your streaming accounts? And so there were values that I was like, no, this is hell. I'm going to die on this, because that's what makes us unique. Like you're like, no, we're Finding Arizona. We're not finding the US, like we're, or the southwest, or whatever the Sun Belt is, whatever they like to call us. You're not that. So, you know, I think there's things where like this is for sure never gonna change. We're never gonna do that. But what does that look like if it works? And what does working look like? And sometimes you're afraid to dream big because it is possible. It's so scary. So I don't wanna discount that. Brad and I, the only reason I can say that we lucked out is that we were forced in a pandemic to make it work, because it was like we had to pay our bills. We don't, we don't we work for ourselves. There is no one sending me any money for a paycheck to work from home. We have a great couple that we know, and seeing them thrive today is like really fun. We watched these two people doing the dream like they were performers. They both were headliners on The Strip. They had their dream home, and in the same week, both of their shows closed, and we were like, I'm so sorry, and they said this to us, and there was something that always sticks with me. They're like they were velvet handcuffs. And the idea of me going out and audition again, I just don't even want to do it. I'm most grateful that this happened, and he has, he went back to school. He changed his life. They're having a baby like they both have changed, transformed what their resume is and what they do on this planet. And it's cool how it can change, but it also, when you have a consistent paychecks coming in, it can, it's hard. It's hard. So. Jose Acevedo 24:00  I've heard this one individual. I can't even, I'm bad with names, but I'm always so invested in what people say and what their beliefs are. But it's like, I heard this saying, Do your life the nine to five, so that the five to nine is your, you know.Lesley Logan 26:32  Oh yeah. You work to live, not live to work. So you're like, your nine to five is only there to make sure that your five to nine is super cool.Jose Acevedo 26:39  Yeah and so that's where I'm at right now in life, and it's just really been great. And it's, I cannot tell you that it makes me feel good that A. I still have a passion for it, and B. it's building this legacy, not just for me, but for the little guy. In all honesty, fatherhood has changed a lot about how I see the world, how I perceive the world, and how I, you know, go about the world and it's joy when he says that I have fun doing a podcast is the best thing that I can say about what this means to me now, because it's just again, I want him to know that I'm a good dad, but I also want him to know that I'm a good person as well, because I care enough that I have these conversations with the people, because I don't want to feel like I don't love the world. I don't want to, I don't want him to think that you can't, you, you're, you need to be afraid of everyone. I want him to know that there are good people out there, and there's a community that will back him, and so hopefully down the road, he'll see a couple of the episodes and be like, my dad, I love him. He did a great job doing this.Lesley Logan 27:49  That's so beautiful. That's amazing, and it is interesting. We can see our life through the lens of someone else, because there's a lot of things that can weigh on us that actually have nothing to do with the big picture, but they feel very important. There are certain things that really make sure that they're like, I want to be heard and I want to be seen, that actually are not that big of a deal, and they're not part of the goals. But when the obstacle happens or the mess happens, they can feel like they're priority. And then you have this guy, his name's Atlas, right? Jose Acevedo 28:18  Yeah, his name's Atlas, yeah. Lesley Logan 28:19  Atlas go, did you have fun doing this thing that you love? And it's like, yeah, thank you for bringing me back down to earth and remind me what I do. That's so, it's so fun. It's so cute. Jose Acevedo 28:27  Yeah, it's just something about his joy of the world and life itself, it just brings me back to like, calm and steady. And again, it's like, fatherhood has changed me 100% from this, you know, I always felt like I was like, I'm so selfish. I'm like, I want so much for myself. Then he came into my world, and he's changed so much about me, and I want so much for him, and so much for him to see everything and give him a lot of the things that I didn't have as a child. But I understood, I understand now as an adult, my parents did the best that they could with everything that they had, and that is all I want to do for him. And if that means, you know, keep podcasting because it makes you happy, dad, then I'm going to keep doing that. And you know, there's a lot of things that it's just, again, they're not as important in hindsight right now, because I'm just really so glad that he's given me the opportunity to see the world and through his eyes and through his perspective, and want to just make it the happiest, joyous childhood ever. Lesley Logan 28:51  Oh, my goodness. And also, you're not sacrificing something you love because you think it will make that you're showing your son, you and Britt are both showing your child, like, you can do things that make you happy and you don't have to sacrifice the things you love to do that. I think it's really cool for them to grow up in a household where, like, yes, you have a nine to five, but also this other thing that makes you really happy, and you're dedicated to it, and you see it through. We had a guest on Episode Five, everyone. She said actions are caught, not taught. She's very aware that her kids are watching what she says about herself and what she does. I want to ask we don't have Britt here today, so unfortunately, we'll have to hang out with her another moment. But you work with your spouse on this podcast. Brad and I work together, and I'm sure you guys get all the time,. I don't know, I don't want to assume, but people are like, oh my God, tell me how you and Brad work together because I think I want to work with my partner. I find myself going, maybe don't do it. And I love working with my husband. But also, I'm particularly aware that it's not unicorn and glitter all the time. Jose Acevedo 30:38  Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Lesley Logan 30:39  So tell us how it came to be that Britt started working on the show and like, how do you two each share this incredible podcast together? How do you guys make it work?Jose Acevedo 30:50  Yeah, so we had this conversation too. It's like on my podcast, where it's I told you about how I met her through work and through working in a co-working office, and just again, being intimidated by someone of her stature at the time, she had her own business, and I was just working my first big boy job out of college, and really it was like I was interested in her, and she asked me for my WiFi password. We had these conversations. We were getting to know each other. And then I was like, I want to take you out on a date. I don't think I have the time during the weekend, and I'm kind of worried to tell you why. And she's like, why are you embarrassed? I'm like, I'm embarrassed because I have this podcast that keeps me very busy when I'm not working here on my job and she's like, oh, I love podcasts. So she binged the entirety of all my podcasts that weekend, and she was like, look, I love what you do. I think it's so interesting. Can I help you somehow? Is there some way I can help you take photos or something? I was like, that would be really great. That would be really awesome. And I would thank you so much. And if I pay you, like, let me. She's like, no, no, no. Just let me help you and you can teach me. And so I was like, she was interested in photography at the time. So she was like, okay, let's go do this first episode. And then actually turned into a date. It was really her way of showing interest in me and wanting to do this together. And she took photos the very first time as a date. And we, you know, had, it was luckily, at an ice cream shop, and it was this, like shaved ice. So she took photos. We ate and had dessert afterwards. And then it evolved into dating a lot. And she was being involved. She was helping me produce. She was helping me get clients, get people on the show. And then she came up with ideas on how to actually make this a business. And I took it to heart because she owned her own business. And we had these conversations before about like, how does Finding Arizona become more than just a podcast? How do we approach it in a business aspect? And I very much, I think, what is the best part about our relationship is I'm very open to her having a conversation with me. Communication, I think, is our best ability between the two of us. I think one, her vulnerability and empathetic nature to connect with me and wanting to share her ideas was the biggest part of how we grew together and how we emotionally stayed connected, but also really move forward in hard times, having being communicative and just communicating how we feel, how we think we should go about, you know, moving forward through a struggle or anything like that. I think that is the best way that we kind of came together and said, okay, this is how the business work. I showed her everything. I was like, this is how I do everything. Where do I go from here? Like, how do I go and move this forward? How do I make this a business? How do I, you know, do my taxes through this and all these things. And so she sat down with me. We've had this conversations on more than one occasion of these are the things that you need to have this business thrive. And so she was kind of teaching me and being my coach. And now we're, I'd like to say we're on the same page a lot of the times when it comes to what we should be providing. What we should be doing next. What are should be the next goal, baby step forward and communication. I think having those points in our relationship to A. talk about ourselves and talk about how we feel about each other, but B. talk about the business. So typically, we'll have, and this is kind of looking into the our relationship, at the end of the year, we'll have kind of this business conversation, but throughout the year we'll have personal conversations, go on dates, really try our best to talk about leave the business side and talk about A. our goals as parents and our goals as a couple, and really put that towards our date life, and then leave the business aspect for, you know, the quarterly stuff, the quarterly meetings and having those really hard conversations, like, how are we going to make money off of this? Or, how are we going to, you know, move forward into the next quarter of like business and how we, what events are we going to go to? Who are we connecting with? How are we even teaching ourselves new things so that we can add it to our repertoire of things that we provide for the podcast? So I think having a point of conversation with your significant other, and making sure you also separate some of those things, because it can get really murky if you bring in and she's trying to have a conversation about relationships, but you're trying to talk about the business. It's really separating those two entities, and I like to say Church and State sort of thing. But you know that sort of idea of like, we really try our best to have those date nights throughout the year and talk about our relationship, talk about who we are, talk about things that aren't, don't do anything with the podcast or business, and then leaving scheduled appointment dates of businessy talk and things like that. So it can be however you want to retrofit that, whether, if you want to talk more about the business, you know you want to have more dates, whatever it may be, but I think having those scheduled items is very vital to checking in, not only for yourself, but for your significant other, if you are working with them and making sure that you're what we say on the same page and moving forward together.Lesley Logan 36:46  Yeah, I think that's really, I love that you prioritize the relationship. Because I think if we prioritize the business goals, then it's really easy to forget why you're doing it and what it's for. And if you are someone who works for yourself, the business has to work for you, and otherwise you just created yourself a boss that's very demanding. So when we bought this house in Vegas, we sat down in April of 2020, we're like, well, what do we want for our lives? Forget the business. What do we want for our lives? Where do we want to live? Where do we want to work? What does our schedule look like? How much money do we make? How much does it cost to live the life we want to live? And then we went to the business and go, okay, the business has to support this life, as opposed to us supporting the business. And I think that that's really important. And so, yeah, you're right. However you want to retrofit that y'all is up to you, but make sure your personal goals are the priority. Because whether you work for yourself or you have a job, the job is there because it's helping. It gives you access to the things that you want. You know, there's this amazing book that I read so many years ago, and it's called, I want to say it's called sunny, it's like, not sunny side up, but it was like something like that. And it was not about whether you saw the glass half full or the glass half empty. You saw something in the glass. But one of the things that she said in there was about parking or driving away. The story was like, she's at brunch, and it was outdoors, and a car drove up, and the car was idling. It was pulled up to park, but it didn't turn off. It just idled, and over, she watched how, she stopped her conversation, and then how the whole area of the brunch stopped their conversation to look at like, what is this car doing? Because it makes everyone uneasy. What is this, what does this car do? Is it gonna go? Is it gonna stay? What's going on? And so the idea was, like, you need to park or drive away. And then she went into a story about a person who didn't love their job. It wasn't awesome when they actually looked for other jobs that they realized was, well, this job allows me to pay for the private school my kids are in. I get off work at a time that lets me spend time with them, lets me do this. And so she reframed the job that she had to this job may not be my dream job, but it provides me with the dream life I have. And we can get a little confused, and so I just want to go back to know what your goals are for your relationship or for your family or for yourself, if you're by yourself, and then the business goals have to reflect that.Jose Acevedo 39:05  I think I look back on the early part of our relationship, and I say to myself, I was embarrassed at the time because of the podcast just taking up so much time in my life. I look back at it now, I'm like, I was sort of embarrassed too, and I didn't address this personally because I didn't want it to take over her life as well, because I really wanted this thing to really be something, but I also didn't want it to take over her life and be, but she has shown me that it can provide us with an opportunity to, like, you, said, live the life that we want, and share so much of our own world of like she's made up these things of like the blog wouldn't be what it is today without her. The vlog is a combination of all of our videos, but it's like this way of sharing our family life with our fans, but also it's like this other thing, of like, it's home movies for our family who live far away from us that don't get a chance to see us a lot. So it's like this beautiful thing of sharing that with them, but also with our fans as well, and she's shown so much of how much she cares about this podcast and how much she cares about others that I'm still amazed by her. I'm still intimidated by her on so many of those factors. Because without her being in my corner, I don't think that I would be the person that I am today, but I also don't think the business would be where it's at today. And I thank her all the time, and I hope she knows this, but I think she is the cornerstone of what makes this podcast have a heart, and I think she's the best part of me. She's the best part of our family, and she's really, truly, this entity that I cannot describe any more than she is the heart of this business. Lesley Logan 41:07  Oh my gosh. Well, we have to let Britt, when she listens to this, have a moment to enjoy that lovely speech for her. So wanna take a brief break, and then we're gonna find out how people can find you and Finding Arizona, and all the things that you guys are doing together. Lesley Logan 41:19  Okay, Jose, you are like one of the most beautiful humans in the world. And I think everyone is hoping that their husband is telling someone that exact same speech that you just said about them, Finding Arizona, they can find it anywhere that they're listening to this podcast. But do they have to live in Arizona? Is this something they can enjoy if they're visiting Arizona? And also, what else do you and Britt have for our listeners?Jose Acevedo 41:41  Yeah. So this is available on all podcast platforms, of course, but we also have now video format to a lot of these episodes that we provide on YouTube. And on top of that, like I was discussing earlier in the podcast, we have a vlog that's a little bit of this family life. And what we do for the business, we go to events as well, meeting new people, networking, and we share that along with on the YouTube, we have a website that is available for a blog that gets a little bit more of what we've learned and found through the community and what we're passionate about, what we're intrigued by, that's a little bit more of the inside of our minds being put out into this, like, blog form, so that Britt puts that together. But it's, again, it's all of these things could be found at our website, findingarizonapodcast.com but also on our YouTube page, Finding Arizona podcast, you'll just search it, and you'll find us. You'll see us. We're big smiley people, and we always try our best to make sure that it's routinely updated and that you're constantly getting new items every week. And on top of that, I mean other events that we're going to on a very routine basis. You can catch us a lot of the community events throughout Phoenix. And we are also trying to do a little bit more of in-person 101 classes, teaching the kind of 101 of podcasting, Britt has done an event where she's speaking about it at a Phoenix Design Week. There are a couple of other events that I don't have it in front of me, but I wish I could give you some more information on, and I will actually send an email to you so you can provide that to the individuals. But there are a lot more events that we're going to be in-person for that you can catch us at, say hi and get a little bit more one-to-one action with us. And you will get to see Atlas, too. Atlas loves going on these little adventure excursions, and you'll see him in his little Finding Arizona shirt, and he's always down the clown, and he's a fun time.Lesley Logan 43:34  Oh my gosh, so fun. Yes, you guys should absolutely be teaching people about podcast and getting started, because you've been doing it for 10 years.Jose Acevedo 43:42  Yes and on top of all of those things that we do in person and all that, we actually just started this. And this is something of the service arm of what we provide in video production, audio production. We're calling it The Found House. And you can find it under our web page, The Found House over at findingarizonapodcast.com where you can actually, if you want to work with us, one-to-one and start your own podcast, we provide that option as well.Lesley Logan 44:08  Awesome. That is what we need. Thank you for doing that. Jose Acevedo 44:11  Yes, absolutely. Lesley Logan 44:12  Okay. You guys, all those links are, of course, in the show notes. And if you are wondering about how Finding Arizona podcast is, I was on it with Brad. Brad made an appearance. Holy moly, it's rare. So go listen. You get to hear the inside of his brain on all the things. Jose Acevedo 44:28  I love Brad, by the way. Lesley Logan 44:29  We love Brad. You know what? Here's the thing, everyone loves Brad. And whenever I go anywhere without Brad, they're just like, where's Brad? Where's Brad? So that's why he's not actually allowed to not be there. Because I'm like, am I chopped liver? So. Jose Acevedo 44:41  He's right over there. Go look. And that's sometimes how I feel about Britt and this is the crux of having parenthood be a part of what we do is should some of these events are late at night, and Atlas can't go to those. So one of us has to stay behind to do bedtime story time, and one of us has to go. And then it's if one of us goes, like, where's the other person? Lesley Logan 45:02  Yeah, where are they? What's going on? Well, I love that. It's like, okay, hi, but I'm right here. So you know, you have been such a gem already, but we love to end the episode with, Be It Action Items. Bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Jose Acevedo 45:17  I think it goes back to what we were talking about those baby goal routines set for yourselves. I think you should always try your best to set a big goal, but also make sure that you're taking those routine steps, or those small steps forward to allow yourself and your what your goal is to move to approach that. Take those tiny steps that you know are digestible, edible that you can do and make sure that you're reaching closer and closer, because if you look back on those little steps, you will actually see that you were providing yourself the opportunity to move forward. And one of the big things that I keep going back to, or at least what in our conversations, like life responds to effort. That's something that I heard, is life responds to effort. And you're not making an effort, you're not moving anywhere, you're stagnant. You have to make an effort. And whatever, it's those little things that matter and those little things that count to your goals. Lesley Logan 45:18  Oh, my God. Mic drop on that. That is brilliant. That is, rewind everyone, listen to that last, that was freaking amazing. Jose, Finding Arizona. Thank you for being you. Thank you for sharing your story. Give Britt some love from us. We're hopefully gonna see you guys, when we're in person in Arizona soon. Y'all, how are you gonna use these tips in your life? Tag Finding Arizona. Tag the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend. Share this with an Arizonian but also share this with someone who needs to hear that 10 years ago, it was baby steps and just showing up and being consistent, like we all need these inspirations in our lives and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 46:52  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 47:35  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 47:40  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 47:44  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 47:51  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 47:55  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Dr. Beckett welcomes Reagan Jobe to discuss the legacy and evolution of Premier hockey cards. They reminisce about the early 90s when the brand first came out under OPC and its impact on the card collecting community. The conversation covers the history of the Premier brand, its significance in the hobby at the time, and how it has transformed into today's premium cards with higher quality and more features. They also share fond memories from a trip to Vancouver, exploring local card shops and the enthusiasm of young collectors.    00:31 Reagan's Influence and Early 90s Card Scene 01:38 Vancouver Card Shops Tour 04:57 Evolution of OPC/UD Premier Sets 06:24 Grading and Collecting Trends 09:03 Brand Recognition and Licensing    

Lesley Logan reveals how a small but consistent shift in her nighttime routine helped her reclaim deep rest—without sacrificing joy. This inspiring Fuck Yeah Friday reminds us that progress doesn't come from doing more, but from honoring what we truly need. Tune in for a refreshing perspective on mindfulness, routines, and the unexpected power of rest. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:A compassionate approach to ethical consumer choices and boycotting.Why confidence is a gateway to new opportunities.The underestimated power of refining your systems.How Lesley's meditation practice transformed her sleep and stress.Why sustainable routines require experimentation—not perfection.Episode References/Links:Introduction - 00:47Ethical boycotting insight - 01:06Confidence after eLevate – 04:27Owning business growth – 05:18 Lesley's sleep breakthrough - 06:20This week's mantra - 08:11 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:·        Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g·        Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/·        Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/·        Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/·        Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ·        Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/ Follow Us on Social Media:·        Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/·        The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g·        Facebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilates·        LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/·        The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:47  Hello, Be It babe. How are you? Welcome to your Fuck Yeah Friday, where we are celebrating awesome things that people are doing, including yourself and myself and a mantra, and we're doing it short and sweet, so we can enter this weekend with some inspiration, like, what is possible in this life. It's not all bad, right? There's got to be some good stuff. So this inspired me. I thought I wanted to share it with you. I'm recording these in February, and so obviously a lot of people right now are talking about a lot of different boycotts that they're doing. So just want you to know if I mentioned any businesses that may have changed their ways, like, that's a delay, but do your research, okay? But what I wish someone told me before I started boycotting, and I want you to know I wanted to share this with you, because I think it can be really tricky. I'll share my wins, what's going on. So the first post that they said is, disclaimer, boycotting is a labor of love. Oh, and this post is a labor of love from an ex mega, M-E-G-A consumer, not telling anyone how to live. Just sharing what I've learned along this journey of redirecting resources. So she said, starting out, pace yourself, start with one area and give yourself grace. So the truth is, our consumption habits were carefully engineered over generations, so unlearning takes time. And by the way, this is from jnaydaily, jnaydaily. So if you are feeling the urge to boycott or maybe you thought about that two months ago, and here we are in April, and you still haven't figured it out, it's okay give yourself grace and pace yourself. And she says to start with one area, okay? Making choices, when facing a purchase, ask yourself, can I borrow this? Can I find it secondhand? Is there a local option? Can I DIY or use what I have, what's within my current capacity? So move through options based on your energy and circumstances. And I really love that, because can I be really honest, asking to borrow anything from anyone, it kind of makes me go. I don't know, but Brad borrows all the time, right? So, but can I find it secondhand? That's where you could search online to see if somebody is selling it used, right? Or is there a local option you could use? Because when you invest in local stores, it actually goes back into the community in a big way. So, can I make it myself? And then, obviously, making it yourself might not be something you can do, you know? So we currently have some lawn furniture that Brad was trying to, like DIY it, and, you know, it might get to the place where we have to use a local option. So capacity formula. So some of your boycott choices, best is to do local, ethical, DIY, secondhand. So anytime you're avoiding buying something, the best thing you could do is go local, ethical, DIY, secondhand. Better: Alternatives closer to home; Good: more mindful, mainstream choices; Basic: What's accessible right now. So, think net positive, not perfection. Every redirect matters. It gets easy with practice. And then food freedom. So, simplifying food and sourcing, so obviously you have to buy food. So I love this that she added this in here, because it's really easy to like, okay, I can buy a secondhand chair, but I can't just make an orange. So, focus on whole foods and seasonal produce. Explore international and local markets. Join a CSA and support local farmers in exchange for produce. You can go to localharvest.org for that. Find community gardens. You can go to communitygarden.org for that. Look for state-made products and learn how to make a few staples and trade with friends and neighbors. Is this not the coolest thing? I'm going to make sure that the team puts this post in the show notes. But I was inspired by this because at our house, we are working on the boycotts on some brands. And, you know, look, it's not that we'll never buy from them again, it's that we want them to be better. We want them to do better for us. We want them to do better for everyone, right? Want them to do better for their employees. So here we are in April. If there are still brands that you're like, hey, I want them to know that I vote with my dollars. You know, this is how you can start that out. So I hope that that was helpful. Lesley Logan 4:27  Okay, now for your wins. Nancy Lawrence, she's been to Cambodia with us. Oh my God. It's been so fun to see what she's been celebrating after an amazing Cambodia experience where she manifested all this stuff and she's an eLevate grad. She wrote, I have gotten hired at a Latina-owned Pilates studio in Arlington, Texas, Aris Pilates. I'm so excited to work with the Latino community and possibly teach in Espanol. Miranda, her daughter, will also be teaching there. They are thrilled to have me, and I'm so excited to get started. The confidence I have today as an eLevate alumni has opened so many doors for me, including the confidence to step out of my comfort zone and into new studios, because I know I have the appropriate training, which makes me a good teacher. I mean, girl like you were made for this, you know. And I think it is so cool that these women will get to learn amazing Pilates from you, and I'm glad that you have the confidence to go put yourself out there, because they need you. You're the only person who can do what you do the way that you do it. Lesley Logan 5:18  Katelyn Elser has a win for us. She is an Agency member. I'm really proud of this woman. She actually recently quit her full time gig to run her own home business, and she's looking at some other possibilities and growing really fast, because she just is believing in herself and she's doing the work. And so her win is, I launched small group classes, three to four per session at the beginning of January, and they have been a huge hit, with six sessions per week and seven new clients. Way to go, Katelyn. You know, here's the thing, do you hear how these wins are? They don't have to be huge. Katelyn's not something I've helped 600 people, no six to seven people. It's important that you hear that, because I'm not trying to make Katelyn's win small by any stretch of the imagination. What I'm trying to get you to understand is wins, we have to celebrate the things that we do. We have to actually acknowledge what we did. There's a lot of shit going on. And so if all you're focusing is all the things that are not going well, you are not going to have a happy life. And it's not that I'm talking about having a happy life like, oh, you know, I don't see the pain in the world. No, it's I can see that I'm doing these things to make an impact on this world in my way that I can. And so I love that, Katelyn, thank you so much for sharing it. Lesley Logan 6:20  All right, a win of mine. I have a solid morning routine. You know this about me. That's, you know, not an issue. But I have been reading a book with Brad that I absolutely love. We're in a big series, and if you know, you know. And one, the fourth and fifth book aren't going to come out for a long time, so I've been slowing down our roll on the third because once they're done, then we have to wait probably a year for the fourth book, right? But I have been having problems with it, because the book kind of stresses me out a little bit. I'm someone who kind of will Google the end so that I know what's coming up and I can have some certainty. And so one, I haven't done that, so there's a win. But two, I started getting nightmares when we finished the second book. I was the main character and Brad was the other main character, and I couldn't save him. Anyways, it was a whole thing. So I have been like, okay, we can only do one or two chapters. I've been ending things I don't let it go close to bed. So like, great. That was a win, just not letting us listen to it close to bedtime. But the other thing is, I was still having some of the stress dreams, and so I was like, oh, I just don't know what to do. I'm gonna need some sort of sleep. No, actually, I know what to do. I need to meditate before I go to bed. I need a palette cleanser, and it can't be the news. And so what I'm saying is, this week, every single night, I have made sure I've done some sort of meditative practice, and it is helping. It is helping. I'm not dreaming about the book in a stressful way. I somehow did dream about Schitt's Creek in a slightly stressful way, but my sleep scores are still amazing, and my readiness scores are still amazing. So the point is that it's working, and it's not about perfection. It's about being in process and trying to figure out, right now I'm in experimentation mode, like, what meditation do I need to go to bed with that actually gives the best sleep. And so I share that with you, because a morning routine is amazing, but a nighttime routine is also epically amazing. And so your win doesn't have to be like, you know, I hit 17 goals in my business today. Can be like I went to bed on time and I gave myself a meditation to help me have the best sleep in my life. You know, being it till you see it doesn't come from doing all the time. Sometimes it comes from not doing, right? Lesley Logan 8:11  All right. Your mantra for the day. Life is meant to be shared. Life is meant to be shared. Oh, it really is. So thank you everyone who sends your wins in because life is meant to be shared. Thank you for those who share this podcast because life is meant to be shared, and every single person who listens, when I hear your feedback, we're sharing this experience together, and it's kind of amazing. So thank you for bringing you. Thank you for listening to this podcast. Thanks for sharing it, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 8:45  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 9:28  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 9:33  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 9:37  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 9:43  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 9:47  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

What if your success was hiding your stress? Lesley and Brad break down the signs of high-functioning depression and how Dr. Judith's Five Vs can help you reclaim your joy. From burnout to anhedonia, this conversation offers real tools to track what actually makes you happy. It's a powerful reminder that joy is personal—and redefining happiness starts from the inside out. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How to recognize overlooked symptoms of high-functioning depression.Ways to measure and increase your personal joy points.The contagious nature of joy—and how to spread it.Daily practices that help you feel more present, centered, and fulfilled.Why reconnecting with your “I am” can ground you in who you truly are.Episode References/Links:April UK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukSpring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comContrology Reformer - https://opc.me/reformerContrology Mat - https://opc.me/foldingmatDr. Judith Joseph Website - https://drjudithjoseph.comHigh Functioning Book by Dr. Judith Joseph - https://a.co/d/9sFHkQWAnhedonia Quiz - https://drjudithjoseph.com/anhedoniaquiz If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/ Resources:·        Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g·        Lesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/·        Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/·        Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/·        Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQ·        Profitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/ Follow Us on Social Media:·        Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/·        The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-g·        Facebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilates·        LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/·        The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  We have this idea, this preconceived idea, of what depression is, and that's not necessarily like the only way that depression looks, right?Lesley Logan 0:09  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:51  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig in to this validating convo I had in the last episode with Dr. Judith Joseph. Brad Crowell 0:59  Dr. Judith Joseph. Lesley Logan 1:00  So good. I clearly decided to start while Brad is still getting ready, and we're not going to worry about that because he has ADD, I have ADHD. We're just going with it. Okay? This is how two people making it work. Guys, how are you? I cannot believe this is episode 509, on the day that we're recording this, I'm gonna actually post and celebrate the episode 500 that like just happened. It came, it went. Life was going on. Because, you know, life, life's fucking life, guys. Lesley Logan 1:26  So today is April 10th and it's Consumer Awareness Week. Consumer Awareness Week takes place from April 10th to 16th this year. Oh, thank you. Brad Crowell 1:37  Ready to get started now, guys. Okay, here we go.Lesley Logan 1:37  This day aims to educate buyers and consumers about their basic rights. This includes access to information regarding the goods and products they are purchasing. The sellers are enforced by law to reveal the ingredients they are using in their products, and they also have to follow certain guidelines regarding quality and standard of the product of being sold. If any of the above stated rules are broken, the seller's answerable to the court of law. Yes, consumers are powerful and many laws have been passed to protect them from being exploited. Are you aware of all of your rights? If not, celebrate the week and find out all there is to know. So here's the deal, actually, really, really important. Depending on what state you live in, those who are in the States, you have different consumer buyer laws, depending which country you live in, like there's these different things. So definitely, if you don't know, you should absolutely do some research and do some Googling. But I also just want to say, like, we're recording this after several different weeks and days and months of like, exercising our consumers and power, and it is working. Like, have you seen how much it's working? Like, I don't shop at Target, but I've been part of the not shopping at Target. Like, you know, there's a couple things we need, I was like, not getting it there. My poor assistant was like, so where are we getting these things? And I'm like, oh, here's an art store you can go get them at, and they're $1 more, and it's gonna be fine. So Target's less, like, $15 billion the last time I checked, $15 billion, $15 billion, you guys, this is great news. I don't want anyone to lose their jobs, none of that kind of stuff. But also, like, we have to tell these people who is in charge here, so. Brad Crowell 3:04  Yeah, it's actually really difficult right now, especially in the States, with people taking a wrecking ball to the things that that actually hold companies accountable, such as the FTC and their Consumer Protection Bureau. So there are literally laws that are supposed to protect us, and right now, there are people in power who are trying to give companies back the power to do anything that they choose, and that is going to eventually affect every single person, not just in the United States, but if you're buying products that were made in the United States and you're overseas, they might not be made with the same kind of qualities that, you know, they need to be, so. Lesley Logan 3:45  So here's the thing, even if you feel like you have no rights or voice, your dollar has power wherever you live in this world. And so where you spend that money does matter. And I get it like we have been in places in the States where I'm like, okay, so this is the only place we can shop right now. This is the only place to go. So, you know, don't, please, don't starve. Please don't, like, go without, but like, if you can spend an extra dollar and go to a different store, go support small businesses. Go support women-owned businesses. Go support people of color businesses. Like, I promise you, you'll feel so much freaking better. You'll just feel better. Like, it felt good to be like, oh, we're gonna, look at this place over here that has exactly what we need.Brad Crowell 4:18  I mean, slash or I'm just buying less stuff because I'm like, oh, I need to buy that thing and what would be my normal thing would be, go to Amazon and just order the thing. Lesley Logan 4:26  You know, in one of the FYFs, I actually told people how they can boycott like in a way that like helps them. So if you haven't ever listened to FYFs, I'm adding like things in it that inspire me, plus your wins, plus my wins, and they're still under 15 minutes. And I actually did do it. It's really fun. Okay. Brad Crowell 4:41  Cool. Cut me off. So what I was actually gonna finish saying there is that, you know, I'm actually buying less stuff because my natural inclination is to just go to Amazon and then to just order it, right? But now I'm like, okay, well, if I'm not ordering from Amazon, or if I'm not ordering from Target, or if I'm not ordering from Walmart, you know, then where am I going to get this? And now there's more effort to go figure that out, and probably requires a trip to the store, which I don't really have the time and the schedule to just go do that. So the convenience is, is definitely something that we're trading. But also my pocketbook thanks me, because did I really need to buy that thing. Chances are it's 50-50.Lesley Logan 5:23  Yeah, yeah. Well, in the FYF episode, I actually explained it, you could also borrow it if you need to, like, if you really need it, but you don't need it forever, you could just borrow it, right? So anyways, we have to keep going. So know your rights. Consumers all around the world do some research. This will actually make you it'll make the companies that you work with even better because of it. Brad Crowell 5:40  Yep. Lesley Logan 5:41  Okay, we just literally wrapped up the eLevate retreat. So that's a retreat at our house for those who graduated the eLevate program. And we also had just wrapped the reformer weekend for eLevate round five, which is super, super fun. If you're interested as a teacher in eLevate, you can apply for 2026's program, and then that way you could come to 2027's retreat, because the retreat is for the grads, and it's really special. I guess, don't you love it? I love it. I love having the people here. I love having all the different years of grads here. I love being able to see them in person. So it was absolutely fabulous.Brad Crowell 6:14  It's a good time. It's a good time. People are amazing, and it's, what's been really fun is to see the incredible sense of community created even across different groups of grads. So year one, year two, year three, etc, etc, where, where they're intentionally building community, and they're part of this really amazing group. So it's been fun to see that from our perspective, for sure. Lesley Logan 6:38  Yeah. And then also, last week, we actually opened up the registration for the UK tour, the Mullet Tour. Brad Crowell 6:41  The Mullet Tour. Lesley Logan 6:41  So, you guys, if you are in Europe or the UK, or you want to fly there, we're going to be there this September. Brad Crowell 6:52  Yeah, we're going to be there in September. And what is a Mullet Tour, Les? Lesley Logan 6:55  Business in the morning, Pilates in the evening. That's how it goes. Business in the front, party in the back, business in the morning, Pilates in the back, in the evening. No? Brad Crowell 7:05  Well, sort of. You just mixed a whole bunch of things, but it's business in the front, Pilates in the back.Lesley Logan 7:12  Right, but it's in the morning and then the Pilates is in the evening. Brad Crowell 7:15  Yeah, okay, we're gonna go with that. Lesley Logan 7:17  Well, that's what the Mullet Tour is. It's our second event. It's not annual, because we skipped a couple years. So I don't know the next time we'll be in the UK. I'll be really honest. We're already booking 2026 stuff, and 2027 we just got booked for something potentially so like this might be it, UK, for a couple, for a little bit, so. Brad Crowell 7:35  For a bunch of years. Lesley Logan 7:37  Yeah. So get in. Brad Crowell 7:38  Do it. Make sure you're paying attention. Lesley Logan 7:41  If you understand how the UK works, the studios are quite small, so space is limited, opc.me/uk is where you can get that information. You can come to workshops. You can come to classes. Obviously, the deal is in there. If you get all the good stuff for the Mullet, the whole Mullet, you need the whole Mullet to get the deal. Also coming up. Brad Crowell 7:57  You need to show up with a mullet or you can't come. Just kidding. Don't do that.Lesley Logan 8:02  (inaudible) on a lot of people. So don't do it. All right. April and this month that we're in right now, towards the very end, it is Spring Training. What is Spring Training? Well, there's the baseball people's doing spring training, and it's our version, and it's a week of Pilates classes with the OPC teachers and myself, mat classes, reformer classes, chair classes, tower classes. You can get the mat only ticket, or you can get the full spring training pass. It's a freaking great deal. If you go to opc.me/events, you'll hear about it as an early bird, which means you'll get a better price than anyone else. Brad Crowell 8:35  Yeah, get yourself on the wait list. Lesley Logan 8:36  You don't have to be a teacher. You can be someone who's just been doing Pilates. You can also be someone who's like, pie-curious, and you're like, I don't know. Maybe this is time. It's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm just gonna say we have uniforms. The dog has a uniform, everything. Brad Crowell 8:37  It's gonna be great. In fact, there's a theme to this one. It's all about the push ups. Lesley Logan 8:54  Oh yes. Brad Crowell 8:55  So this is our first annual spring training. We do want to do this every single year, but that will depend on you, gotta show up. Lesley Logan 9:03  We wouldn't do push ups next year. And also, if you would, ah, push ups, it means you have to sign up.Brad Crowell 9:08  That's right. Lesley Logan 9:08  It means you have to sign up. Brad Crowell 9:09  It's intentional. All right, cool. So that kicks off at the end of April. So go to opc.me/events right now, so you can get on the waitlist where you're actually gonna get that early bird offer. Only the people on the waitlist get the early bird offer. If you are a Pilates business owner in any way, meaning you are taking clients and getting paid by anybody, then I want you to come to my free Pilates business webinar. It's called the Growth Accelerator, and it's going to help you, whether you have a studio or home studio, or you're taking clients in the park. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator, and we're going to be talking about the three biggest secrets that Lesley and I have learned over the past 2500 clients we've coached. We're going to share those things with you, and it is awesome, actually. It's really been a great experience so far, doing this on a consistent basis, and we want you to join us. Lastly. Lesley Logan 10:01  Lastly, we're going to Cambodia this fall. Brad Crowell 10:05  Yep, October. Lesley Logan 10:06  Yeah and people are like, oh, I want the 2026 dates. And I have to say, we have a tentative date, but we are waiting on some news. Brad Crowell 10:11  We are waiting on a couple of other things to fall into place before we can confirm the 2026 dates. But here's what we can tell you, we're only going once in 2026, this year '25, we were able to go twice, next year because we're traveling to Europe at the beginning part of the year, we can only go to Cambodia one time. Lesley Logan 10:27  And so we want you to come this time. Brad Crowell 10:29  Don't wait, like, a year and a half from now to do this. Lesley Logan 10:31  No, I mean, like, things will just be, your life is not going to get less busy. Brad Crowell 10:35  It's true. It's very true. Lesley Logan 10:37  Like, just like, when does that ever happen? So, so you're going to go to crowsnestretreats.com and snag your spot. Brad Crowell 10:43  Yep, crowsnestretreats. Lesley Logan 10:45  Only a few spots. Go grab yours. Okay. Brad Crowell 10:48  crowsnestretreats.comLesley Logan 10:50  Yes, do that. Okay, we have to talk about Dr. Judith Joseph, but first we have a few audience member questions. Audience questions to answer. Brad Crowell 10:58  We do. This is interesting. We've had a bunch of questions come in recently about types of equipment and models and brands and all those kinds of things. So I'm just gonna quickly zip down them, @JohnLanningQ7B on YouTube, asks, hey, my wife is looking for a machine currently. What brand model is yours, Specifically? He was referencing a reformer video, @Finaloadonell3419 on YouTube asks, where can I buy a mat like you're using? And @marilynhighness4234 on YouTube also asks, hello, thanks for this great workout. May I ask where can I get this Pilates mat with handles and a strap? Thank you so much. Lesley Logan 11:35  Yes. Okay, so John, my reformer is a Contrology Reformer. I like the 80-inch. It's really amazing. Prefer it to anything longer, unless your wife is over six-four, that's what I would get. And I like calling a machine myself as well. I think it's really cool. Also, it makes it feel like that's why it's expensive. It's a machine. I buy it. So that's what I use. Brad Crowell 11:57  You can go to opc.me/reformer and you can literally get a link to the one that Lesley uses. Lesley Logan 12:03  There's a little discount on it too. Then for my mat lovers, I use the Contrology Mat. That's the mat with the handles. I prefer the Contrology Mat to all the other brands out there. Yes, I've tried most of them all, and the rest are too squishy, way too squishy. And after just teaching the reformer weekend and then having the mat weekend eLevators, every single different teacher who was on my equipment was able to be like, oh, this, this is what is happening, right? Like, this is what, like, this is why I'm not connecting when I think I'm connected, because most people are on too squishy of apparatus. And so if you're a tight person, the squish, kind of like fills in the gaps, and if you're a hyper mobile person. you kind of like, fold into the squish. So you want to get the Contrology Mat and. Brad Crowell 12:47  Just fold in the squish. Lesley Logan 12:48  You fold in the squish. Brad Crowell 12:49  Just fold it in. Lesley Logan 12:50  Just fold it in. Brad Crowell 12:50  Fold it in. Lesley Logan 12:51  Yeah. So opc.me/mat gets you the discount link for the mat, if those for whatever reason, don't show a discount at checkout, then just hit me up and with your email and I will connect you to a person. So that was all the questions, right? I answered them. Brad Crowell 13:05  Yeah, you got all three. Lesley Logan 13:06  Yeah. I'm a cool, I'm a Contrology demo center. So I think it's really important that you know I'm freaking biased. However, that being said, my bias does not come from me not having explored all the equipment or having other brands. I have actually just sold them because I prefer the Contrology I really think that they have a great thing going on there, and their customer service is really helpful if anything goes wrong. So I, not that that does happen. But you know, like, shippers, things like, you gotta just, you want to have build up relationship. And I really love Balanced Body, and Jay worked with them closely on the Contrology line and you know how much I love Jay, by the way, the day that we're recording, this is his birthday. Brad Crowell 13:40  What? Lesley Logan 13:41  It's his birthday today. Brad Crowell 13:42  Come on, I didn't know that. Lesley Logan 13:43  Yeah, we did. Last year, we actually celebrated his birthday with him.Brad Crowell 13:48  Well, I didn't, yeah, okay, cool. I'm not remembering last March 25th.Lesley Logan 13:52  Happy Birthday, Jay. And he hates it. Brad Crowell 13:55  Happy Birthday, Jay. Lesley Logan 13:55  He hates right now that we're doing any of this. Okay, well, now go get your Contrology stuff, and if you have questions about any of it, you can just DM me. I will happily answer. I love talking about equipment and making sure you get the right stuff for you and what your practice is. And you know, somebody else was like, hey, I'm thinking of getting a folding reformer instead of a mat and spine corrector. And I was actually able to talk about, like, why there is a classical reformer that folds. I have not personally experienced it. It is not cheaper than a regular reformer. It just happens to fold up. And when I'm in Chicago this fall, I'll get to kind of explore it with someone who is in my program who has access to a Contrology Reformer, and that one so I can give you more comparisons, but like, it doesn't become cheaper, it just becomes foldable. Anyways. Brad Crowell 14:38  I just want to give you guys a quick update. The actual link for the mat is opc.me/foldingmat, folding mat. Lesley Logan 14:45  Folding mat. Brad Crowell 14:47  Folding mat. Because you're gonna fold in the mat.Lesley Logan 14:49  Fold in the mat. All right. The wheels have come off this bus. We have to take a brief break, and then we're gonna come back and talk about Dr. Judith Joseph.Brad Crowell 14:56  Stick around. Brad Crowell 14:59  Welcome back. All right, let's talk about Dr. Judith Joseph. Dr. Judith Joseph, MD, MBA is a board certified psychiatrist, researcher and passionate mental health advocate, recognized in the 2023 Congress Proclamation Award, with that award. She's dedicated to making mental health conversations more accessible through groundbreaking research and social media. In her book, High Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy, Dr. Joseph helps readers identify hidden depression and discover the unique science behind their own happiness. And I'm really excited to dig in, because there's a ton to learn in last episode. Lesley Logan 15:37  I learned so much. I mean, this was like I got turned on to this guest because we have a different guest. We had on about anahandria. And I was like, okay, this is the first time I've heard this word. I'm very interested. And so then a friend of mine who listens to the pod. Brad Crowell 15:52  What it? What is it? Lesley Logan 15:53  Anahandria.Brad Crowell 15:54  No, anhedonia. Lesley Logan 15:56  Anhedonia. Brad Crowell 15:58  Yeah. Lesley Logan 15:58  Anhedonia. Brad Crowell 15:59  Anhedonia, A-N-H-E-D-O-N-I-A anhedonia. Lesley Logan 16:03  Yeah, guys, I'm a little dyslexic. Anyways, so, but I had been turned on to this person, and I did some research. I like, went down the rabbit hole of her, and I was like, oh, I really love that we have another person's voice on this. And also, like, a book that's coming, that's out on this. And so first of all, there's so much in the episode, you must go back and listen to it. Also you have to grab her book, ladies, I think it's gonna be amazing for you to give to your friend. But she said, there's a, there are tons of people out there who have the symptoms of a depression but are still functioning and over-functioning because they are the rock and I think a lot of people listening, I mean, if you didn't feel so seen and so heard during this episode, like you, there's not a time for you to be depressed. Brad Crowell 16:46  Yeah, who's, who's the rock, like, you know the person who keeps the family together, or the person who, you know, you could be the breadwinner, or. Lesley Logan 16:55  You might not even be the breadwinner, but you're, you're the like, you might bring money to the family, but like, you're the person who gets them on the bus. You're the person who gets every like, if you take a day off, there's no groceries for dinner, like you're the rock, like you're the. Brad Crowell 17:09  Teacher, doctor, boss person, you know, whatever. Lesley Logan 17:11  But also, like you could be working at a place, and especially now with everything's going on, you could feel like, if you stop, they'll just replace you, and then you have nothing to go back to, and that's gonna even be more depressing and more so you are just like over. Brad Crowell 17:26  You're not allowed to stop, you're not allowed to fall apart, no way. Lesley Logan 17:28  So you keep it all together, but you're actually like, not happy, and the things that used to make you happy don't make you happy anymore.Brad Crowell 17:35  We have this idea, this preconceived idea, of what depression is, and that's not necessarily like, the only way that depression looks, right? Depression certainly can look like that, but also it, we might not realize that we're depressed because we think, well, I'm out there kicking ass and taking names everyday.Lesley Logan 17:53  I get up, I got, I've showered, I wash my hair, so I can't be depressed because I got dressed and I'm actually doing great at work.Brad Crowell 18:00  Yeah, and, and, you know, I think, I think there's something specific that you said about it, that you said, I'm going through the motions. There's no joy in it, you know. And I think she really responded to that. She, like, lit up. She's like, yes, that's exactly, that's exactly it like, you know, it's absolutely possible to still be doing all the things, but when there's no joy in any of it, that's like, can also be depression, right? Lesley Logan 18:29  Yeah. And I just want to add, before, I want to say, like, she said, not only over time does it wear on you, but it can feel like you don't have anywhere to turn to. Because if you go to the regular medical world, they're gonna be like, here, you look fine, right now, you know so, and my girlfriend is a social worker, and she was trained that people would be coming and looking for medication. So, like, she's like, Lesley, people probably needed it, but they're like, they looked clean. They looked like they got, they got them, like, all the things there. And so I think, like, it's just important to know that these different things are out there, and you might be experiencing them, and you might actually have to be advocating for yourself around these things. So I don't know, I just, this blew my mind.Brad Crowell 19:10  Yeah, and, you know the joy, the element of joy missing, I thought that was intriguing, but, but the other thing that I that like, really blew me away was it seems quite logical to me that we say my biology is different than your biology, so the food that I need is different than the food that you need. I know that they custom-make nutrition plans for the astronauts, they all have a different custom nutrition plan because their bodies function differently. Here's what I never took that to the next step and realized happiness doesn't look the same for everybody either, right? So we have this concept of like, well, do this thing to be happy. Well, that might make you happy, but it doesn't necessarily make me happy. And now that I'm saying it out loud, it sounds very logical, but I never thought about it. And when Dr. Judith said that, she said your happiness is not the same as my happiness. There's a lot of people out there trying all these different things, but it's not working for them. That's because they're basing it off of the science of somebody else's happiness. And she mentioned that, this was also, I found really interesting, so the definition of anhedonia was that, basically you're missing the joy, right? And there's more to it, but I'm forgetting it off the top of my head. But she said it's actually contagious, right? So if you work in a high stress environment, I'm putting that in air quotes, right, I used to work in a place like this, where it was stressful for no fucking reason, right? It was stressful. Why? Because the boss, that's how he felt like a good company's run, right? And so he would make arbitrary deadlines that had literally no reason. This has to be done by tomorrow. Why? Why? What's happening tomorrow? We just have to get it done by tomorrow, right? And it was like this manufactured stress, and it created this, like, high, this frenzy, this high, high, strong atmosphere, right? And that is contagious. And she said, but guess what? So is joy. Joy is also contagious, right? And I thought this is really interesting, because I've, I operated in this high stress environment for like, six years, and you know, people would come in and they would say, how do you do this? And I'd say, I don't know. I just do it, right, but it's probably because I was conditioned to do it. Well, interestingly enough, I think we can also flip that and condition ourselves to find joy, to be in joy, you know? And she said, when you start to shift inside, people are going to notice it in you. You have something that they want, and they're going to start gravitating towards you. Yeah, I, I really appreciated all this. And she said, she said, how do you know what happiness is for you? She said, there's a lot of science under it. Well, first off, she has a quiz about anhedonia, right? And I think that's, that's like a great. Lesley Logan 21:59  I love that quiz. Brad Crowell 22:00  It's a great jumping off point. We're gonna put the quiz in the show notes. The link to the quiz in the show notes.Lesley Logan 22:05  It's only 17 questions, and it takes two minutes. Brad Crowell 22:08  Yeah, it's a self-assessment tool for self-reflection, right, and it allows you to understand, like, yeah, am I finding the joy, you know, in my life? And then from there, she's got tons of resources. She obviously is the reason that the timing is really great here, because her book is just coming out right now, and she has a book called, it's called High Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy. Lesley Logan 22:36  You guys, you can pre-order it today and if it's available by the time, but, here's the thing, if you, like, I think this is the type of book that needs to be on the New York Times bestseller list, because we, the more people know about this, the more we can change the contagion. Brad Crowell 22:51  Yeah, so HFD is what it's about, right? High Functioning Depression. And she says, hey, look, it's not like an official diagnosis. You couldn't go to the doctor and get diagnosed as HFD. But I think that that's like comma yet, because her research is started, is effectively what she's trying to understand is, you know, like, you know, can this be something that can be diagnosed? Because people are experiencing these, these feelings, and they are, they are experiencing depression, even though they're, you know, high functioning. So, very interesting research. Lesley Logan 23:27  And also, I recently got added to the DSM at some point, because this, I was in high school, and the DSM was like a three so, like, we find things out and we add it in. So I. Brad Crowell 23:35  I don't know what a DSM is. Lesley Logan 23:37  Oh, it's this, it's like an encyclopedia for mental health stuff. So, like, it's where every doctor goes when it comes to, like, like your.Brad Crowell 23:44  Diagnosis of Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.Lesley Logan 23:47  Yes, yes. So when I was in high school, I remember it being, like, three, maybe, maybe it was a four already. But I remember being, I remember my teacher specifically saying, do you see how there's a three? It means there was a two and a one, and that means that like, as they, as we learn more, we add more and like, I think the more, I think it's really, not that we should label everything, but I do think when you have a label for what you're going through, you feel less alone, and you have an understanding of, like, how to operate, to get back to where you want to be. I just think that's how, that's how it works.Brad Crowell 24:23  Yeah. And I, you know, I do want to say, obviously, Lesley and I are not psychiatrists, but Dr. Judith is, so, you know, that's, that's a really great place to get started.Lesley Logan 24:32  If this is your first episode, and you were thinking you were listening to two psychiatrists. I'm so sorry to disappoint you. We are two people who talk to a lot of smart people.Brad Crowell 24:40  All right, well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into those, Be It Action Items that you covered with Dr. Judith Joseph and they're pretty, they're pretty fire y'all. We're gonna dig into the Five Vs. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 24:53  All right. Welcome back. Let's get into these Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Dr. Judith, Joseph? I'm gonna go first here. She talked about practicing the Five Vs to reconnect yourself. And this, I had to go back and listen to this, like, two or three times, because she also talked about, like a overlapping Venn Diagram, and then, and then, like, the conversation just went a different direction. And we never finished that thought. And I was like, where is it? But we did cover the Five Vs. So the Five Vs, and she writes about them in depth in her new book, are Validation, Venting, Values, Vitals and Vision. She said they can really help you understand the science of your happiness and increasing those little points of joy every day. And what she means by that is, when you're doing research, you often create points, right? You like, like, if this happens, you get this many points. If that happens, you get this many points. If this happens, you lose points, whatever. They're points. It's a point-based system. And she said, so her tools help you evaluate your happiness in a, in a scientific way, you know, so and she uses these Five Vs to reconnect with herself. So what I was saying, I would start with her quiz. I'm sure part of the quiz is going to be going through these Five Vs, or at least that's in her book, and that'll help you start to figure out, like, you know, where are you on this? You know, are you? Are you? Do you have HFD, right? The High Functioning Depression. She says, Start with one or two. Don't, don't start with all five. Lesley Logan 26:24  Be It babes, you do not get to start with all five. You just start with one or two. That's what the doctor said.Brad Crowell 26:29  Okay, so pick one or two, tap into it. Don't overwhelm yourself. Validation and venting are great places to start. And so check in daily, and track your joy. So check in daily, and track your validation and venting and then she has the Anhedonia Scale to measure whether or not you are getting points of joy in life. So that Anhedonia Scale, we're going to link to that in the show notes as well, so that you have a quick link to go find this information. But, but this is great. I mean for, especially, for those of you who are a one woo person like me, having a systematic approach to measuring something as amorphous as happiness is very helpful. It helps, clarify things. So what about you?Lesley Logan 27:22  Well, I was just thinking about how the longer life is going the way it's going where we are, I might become a two woo. I might just go all in on the second woo. That doesn't mean I'm I'm not, I'm not for Dr. Judith. I'm just, just saying it right now, if you hear me say I'm a two woo girl, you know why.Brad Crowell 27:39  Heard it here first, people.Lesley Logan 27:40  Heard it here first. So the other part of her Be It Action Items that I really love was she said she was talking about Deepak Chopra meditation and like, how we can get caught up in, like, I'm a Pilates instructor, I'm a mom, I am this. And like, when you even say your name, your name can represent a lot of different things that you're known for, or what people think you are known for, or whatever it is. And so she suggested you do what he said, which is like, lose your name and just say I am, I am, and you can repeat I am. And what it does is it really helps you become present in just being a human, in your experience that day. And that is like just being right, like we forget to just kind of be in our bodies, which is really, really cool, and you get to have that self-reflection. So, and I think it's easy to forget who we are or like or think of ourselves as, like, having all these different compartments, and then forgetting, like, why are we doing all the things we're doing? What is all this for? You know, and I really like when I lead a breath work session. I'll ask the people, like in agency, I'll ask them, like, okay, like, if you need more energy from others, put your palms up. And if you need more energy, if you want to actually keep the energy you have, you don't want any more from anyone else, put your palms down. And I actually, like, sit there and I ask myself, like, I notice I ask myself the same question, like, do I need more from others? Do I need this? So, like, being able to be present is really helpful and understanding like what we need and who we are and where the joy is coming from. So you guys, I was blown away. I'm blown away by Dr. Judith Joseph, and I am so grateful that she was on the pod. We get to say we knew her when this book goes on the bestseller list and the HFD becomes something that we all can actually like, you know, find easily if we need it. And so go, go check her out, go get her book. And I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 28:10  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 29:28  Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you for being part of 509 episodes. Brad Crowell 29:33  What? Lesley Logan 29:34  What? When I say we can't do it without you, it is actually not just written down. It's like, truly, truly, if you don't listen, we can't make these. It's not cheap. It's free for you, not for us. So we, we truly are so grateful that you share these episodes, that you come, you tell us what your favorite ones are, that you tell us what your feedback is, like, it really means a lot to us. So please share this with a friend who needs it. Share this with a friend who you might think has HFD so that they can, like, go listen and take the quiz themselves, because remember, joy is contagious. Brad Crowell 30:02  Joy is contagious. Lesley Logan 30:03  Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 30:05  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 30:07  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. 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Psychiatrist and author Dr. Judith Joseph joins Lesley to unpack "high-functioning depression," a hidden struggle affecting many high achievers who seem successful externally yet feel emotionally exhausted inside. Discover why driven individuals often overlook signs of burnout, the surprising prevalence of anhedonia (lack of joy), and Dr. Joseph's practical framework—the Five Vs—for understanding and enhancing your personal happiness. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How to spot signs of high-functioning depression and overcome anhedonia.Why your emotions, including joy and anhedonia, directly influence those around you.The role of trauma, people-pleasing, and over-functioning in our mental health.Dr. Judith's biopsychosocial model for understanding your own unique path to happiness.Easy ways to reduce burnout by shifting from constant "doing" to mindful "being."Episode References/Links:Dr. Judith Joseph Website - https://drjudithjoseph.comDr. Judith Joseph Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/drjudithjosephHigh Functioning Book by Dr. Judith Joseph - https://a.co/d/9sFHkQWAnhedonia Assessment Quiz - https://drjudithjoseph.com/anhedoniaquizGuided Meditation by Deepak Chopra - https://beitpod.com/deepakchopraGuest Bio:Judith Joseph MD, MBA, is a board-certified psychiatrist, researcher, and award winning content creator who specializes in mental health and trauma. She is chair of the women in medicine initiative at Columbia University Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons, clinical assistant professor in child and adolescent psychiatry at NYU Grossman School of Medicine and Chief Investigator at Manhattan Behavioral Medicine, New York City's Premier Clinical Research Site. Dr. Judith was awarded by the US House of Representatives with a 2023 Congress Proclamation Award for her social media advocacy and mental health research. In 2024 she was named a top 6 NAACP Mental Health Champion and a VeryWell Mind top 25 Thought leader. In 2024 She taught a Workplace Mental Health Course to The Executive Office Of The President of The United States of America. In addition to being a notable public speaker at prestigious institutions, Dr. Judith is a sought after on-air expert who has been featured on Oprah Daily's The Life You Want Series, Good Morning America, The Wendy Williams Show, Tamron Hall, Today Show, CNN News With Anderson Cooper, The Mel Robbins Podcast, and more. She recently received a 2020 and 2023 Share Care Award for her MedCircle series on PTSD and a Good Morning America investigative special on ADHD. Social media's favorite psychiatrist, Dr. Judith boasts more than 880,000 followers across platforms, a 30% increase in less than a year. Her Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and YouTube videos receive more than 15 million views per month. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I always say Anhedonia is contagious, but joy is contagious too.Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:55  Ladies, and the few good men who listen, hi. This is amazing. This is exactly an episode I wanted to have since last fall. We had a whole topic on Anhedonia, and I got so many of you reaching , going oh my God, tell me more. So, I found an expert. Get your notebooks out. If you're driving, you'll hit, you'll, just listen, because you want to listen again, you're going to take some notes, and also you're going to want to get this book. So Dr Joseph's book is going to be out April 8th, and so you, normally, I don't preview that. I let you fall in love with her and then tell you, but I'm already in love. I'm going to make sure I get my hands on a copy of this book. So definitely check it out, but here, for you to get the help that you deserve and some amazing validation of who you are and what you're going through, here is Dr. Judith Joseph. Lesley Logan 1:40  All right, Be It babe. I am honored, truly. I heard about our guest today through one of my favorite people in this world, Amy Lavell, and so Dr. Judith Joseph is our guest today. She has a story to tell us, and also has done so much research, and I wanted her on the show because my high-functioning peeps, I see you, we keep talking about not being a perfectionist, not over committing, not do all this stuff, but I thought we'd have an expert come in and talk about the journey of what that does to us and how we can get out of it. So Dr. Judith Joseph, thanks for being here. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Dr. Judith Joseph 2:12  Thank you so much, Lesley. I'm a board certified psychiatrist. I am based in New York City, and I am high-functioning. AF. All of my followers know it. I do a gazillion things on top of being a single mom. I run a lab, content creation, podcaster, author of my book High-Functioning, conducting the first ever study in the world on high-functioning depression, which is something that you know is not really recognized at all in medical literature. But I don't think the depression of our days is our grandma's depression. I think there's a whole new beast out there, and many of us don't even know that we're walking around with it. So I'm trying to demystify that and to bring useful tools to heal.Lesley Logan 2:56  Yeah, that's why I was so intrigued by you. Because what I hear all the time is like, well, I'm not depressed because I get up every day. I do 17 other things, but there's no joy in it. And so can we maybe, maybe take a step back and figure out, like, what is high-functioning depression, and what are the maybe some of the signs that we might be having it?Dr. Judith Joseph 3:15  Well, you said two really great things. You said, listen, we're still getting up. We're doing our stuff. It doesn't look like anything's wrong. And you also said something that's really key, that there's just no joy in it. And actually, the two are connected. So when you go to a doctor or therapist, they're going to pull out this bible of psychiatry called the DSM, and they're going to go through checklists. And according to the DSM, the bible of psychiatry, Diagnostic Statistical Manual, if you don't meet criteria for a lack of functioning or significant distress, but you have all these symptoms of depression, like sometimes you have poor concentration, poor sleep, feeling on edge. That's what we call psychomotor agitation or restlessness, low mood, anhedonia, which is a lack of joy and interest and pleasure in things that once used to light us up, but you don't meet that box of lack of functioning or significant distress. They're going to be like, well, you know, come back and see me when things are really falling apart. The problem with that is that there are tons of people out there who have these symptoms of depression but are still functioning and over functioning because they're the rock, right? They're the mom, they're the boss, they're the teacher, you know, they're the doctor, the nurse, that people depend on, so you can't fall apart. So how do they cope? They busy themselves. They people-please and, eventually, something's going to give either they physically burn out, they mentally burn out, they have a major depressive disorder where they actually do stop functioning. They medicate with substances or with alcohol or self-soothe by shopping too much and going broke, right? Something's gonna give. So why are we waiting for people to lose functioning to do something about this? Why aren't we preventing it? And that's where the research comes in.Lesley Logan 4:56  Oh my gosh. I think first of all, a bunch of people just were like, uh, I have all these things. That's me. I meet a lot of women who are doing all these things, and yet they don't have that joy, that anhedonia that you mentioned, and they try to get help, and the help is either medications that they don't need right now because they're not fully depressed, or they're being told to come back later, and that's so frustrating to not feel heard, and then you just keep doing because you're like, okay, well, maybe I need to do this other seven things. Maybe these things will be the thing that makes me feel better. So I know that people feel so seen, and also I really hope that this becomes the thing people can get diagnosed with, because in that bible, because it does feel like, as you said, this the depression we're having now is not from grandma, because it's true, I don't have children, but if I just were to take off for a week, my team could do a lot, but at some point I need to, like, show up, like the wheels don't spin without, you know, so , it does, it can feel like there's extra pressure on the women who are going through this. How did you get involved in this topic? Were you just seeing it as a bunch of people coming through, or is it something that you went through? Like, can you tell us a little about how you got intrigued by this? Dr. Judith Joseph 6:06  Yeah, actually, it was during 2020, I was given this talk from the same desk that I'm talking from right now, and it was a large hospital system, and it was April, and people didn't know what the pandemic was going to do. They, I mean, we didn't know anything then, and I was called in to really give people the tools to get through a tough time. And halfway through the talk, I realized, I think I'm depressed, but here I am at my desk with my gazillion degrees behind me, instructing doctors and nurses and healthcare professionals on how to heal. And I didn't even realize that I was depressed because I was a doer, you know, and I had this saying, are you a human doing, or are you a human being, right? And I think a lot of us, that's our coping mechanism, at least for me. I'm an immigrant. I come from scarcity. It was never an option of giving up. You had to, you know, if times are tough, you work harder. If you go through something like a breakup, then you just got to take on more tasks at work, you know. And a lot of us cope with our pain by busying ourselves by doing versus just being and feeling and over time that wears on you. And I found myself at that moment in time during this Zoom talk, having that epiphany, and then led me to wonder, how many people on the other side of the Zoom feel like me, because there are a lot of nurses, a lot of doctors in healthcare. Then I started looking into, you know, some I'm in Manhattan, so a lot of my clients are performers, and they went through a really hard time during the pandemic, being out of work, and then the strikes and all that. And many of them, even though they were feeling depressed, they couldn't show it. They had to mask it, because they have to perform. They have to light up a room. So I just started looking at all these different industries, moms, you know, who have to do so many things. They have to go to work, they have to take care of their jobs. They have to take care of their kids. All these people masking these symptoms and just not slowing down and doing instead of feeling and healing. And I just thought, I'm onto something. So I created a reel on socials in 2022 and it went viral. It's been seen over 10 million times around the world. And I had people reaching out to me from different countries saying, I have that. I have anhedonia. This is me. How did you know? Like people were joking, do you have a camera in my home? That's me. Lesley Logan 8:23  Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, I like, as we're sitting here talking, we're two weeks into the new year, so the before, you're, you know, we're taking a few months before everyone's hearing this. And I have friends who are in LA. I lived in LA for 14 years, and, you know, I checked on my friends where I live, where I lived, is still there, because it's kind of in the total middle. And so they're still going to work. Their jobs still expect them to do the thing that they're supposed to do. So they're showing up and doing all the things, and I'm showing up doing all the things, and I'm kind of like, so do we, this is how we just, like handle everything now. We just like keep doing and I think part of it is like it feels normal. And a lot of times we, when there's tough times, we want to do the thing that feels normal, because we we don't want to experience the other thing. But I also think not a lot of us have the privilege in life to not keep doing when stuff is going on, so then you're kind of stuck. You have to keep going, because the world like you are, that's how you get paid, that's how you make a living, that's how all these, that's what people expect of you. And also, you know, there's this underlying currently you can't really deal with so it feels like what you're onto is something that will continue to be happening, but we need to be able to recognize it, so we can label it, so that we can actually go and address it, right? Because we can't just keep living like high functioning, you know, we can't just keep doing that depression. Dr. Judith Joseph 9:42  Yeah, you're absolutely right. I saw this meme, hilarious meme, where it was like, I told my mom I was depressed, and she said, boy, we broke. We don't got time for that, you know. And I thought it was so funny, because you're right when you go through hard times and you don't have the privilege to slow down or others depend on you even if you are economically sound, but others depend on you. You just don't feel like you have that privilege to slow down. You feel like, well, let me just do because that's what I've always done, but you're absolutely spot on, something's gonna give either your body breaks down. And I think that's why a lot of women have these autoimmune conditions, because women, particularly are like they just have so much on their plate. There's so much expected of them. They're not allowed to seem deflated because someone else is going to take your position. Someone's going to say you're on your period, or you're going through menopause. You know, there's just so much on our plates that we don't feel like we can slow down and certain under represented groups, same way, they're just happy to be in the room. Certain industries, doctors, like, if a doctor says that they are experiencing depression in certain hospital systems, they have to report it to the state. I mean, like, there are certain industries that you just can't even say that you're struggling. So I think that if we allow ourselves to process pain, it's not saying that we have to stop everything, because that's like the worst nightmare for someone who's had function AF. It's about teaching them how to get back into their body, how to process their trauma, so that once you start to feel the pain, then you can also feel the joy. But if you continue to numb and you keep on doing you're not going to be able to feel the pain, but you're also not gonna be able to feel the joys in life that we are all, you know, built to enjoy.Lesley Logan 11:28  That's so, thank you for sharing that. I think , like it's, to feel, I have a yoga teacher who is like, you cannot have one thing without the other. Like in the world, we want balance, you cannot have love in this world and not have hate. If you get rid of the hate, you get rid of the love. If you want to only have peace, there is war. Otherwise, you wouldn't know what you're in. And so if you want to have joy in your life, you do have to also feel your pain. And I think also not many of us were really raised on how to feel our pain. If I cried in public, it's like, hey, don't do that like you learn to mask it or bury it. And you brought up women with autoimmune issues. It is insane. How many women I know with multiple autoimmune issues, and you start to go, okay, what is going on here is either that we actually are testing for it, or the life that we're living now is causing us to harm our bodies in ways that are not visible, and not even things we would choose to do, but because we just keep shoving and not getting the help we need, or even if you're trying to get help, not being heard to get help. It's causing a lot of issues I feel like cannot be reversed, and we're missing out on a lot of life, you know. And you mentioned something about getting into your body that I love, because I'm a Pilates instructor, and I believe if you get into your body, you know so much about yourself. For the people listening, what are ways that you help people get in their body? What are the ways, the tools that you've used? Dr. Judith Joseph 12:49  Well, I love this Venn diagram called the biopsychosocial model, and I teach my patients. I teach my clients. It's three bubbles, if you can imagine them overlapping, but those three bubbles are a nice representation of each of us, and I always say your happiness is not the same as my happiness. Know the science of your happiness because a lot of people out there, they're trying all these different things, and it doesn't work for them, but that's because they're basing it off of the science of someone else's happiness. But there is only ever going to be one you. There's only ever going to be one Lesley, ever. I mean, when I think about that, I get chills, because it's like you're so unique. So understand what your makeup is. Understand your bio, which is basically your past history, in terms of your family history, your current medical conditions, what are the medicines you take? What are the supplements you take? You know? You have a very unique biology. Understand your psychology. That's the psycho part of the biopsychosocial you have traumas that are different than my traumas, right? You have resilience factors that are different than my resilience factors. You have a different attachment style, possibly to mine, right? Or different strengths or weaknesses psychologically. And then, the social aspect, we're just saying, I live in New York, you live in Vegas, there are different environmental factors there, right? You probably eat different foods than me, or we have different movement routines. You may have a different work environment than me, right? Understand your relationships. Those are all the social things. So we all have unique factors. And if we were taught to understand these overlapping diagrams, we would understand the science of our own happiness, and we wouldn't be chasing after someone else's happiness. That's number one. And knowing about the uniqueness of your happiness, if you're someone who tends to have a lot of pent up trauma in your body, then I could tell you to eat as much kale as possible, but that's not going to treat your trauma, right? So in that case, I'm going to focus on the psychology bubble of that Venn diagram, and I'm going to say, let's try and process that trauma. We may have to do some 5-4-3-2-1, exercises with you, or some more trauma-focused work, like EMDR work or trauma-focused therapy, making you feel safe again, because that's something that trauma survivors, you know, really grapple with that sense of safety and psychological safety, right? But if you're someone who, on the biological end of things, has an autoimmune condition, has headaches and really intolerable physiological symptoms, I'm not going to be like, well, let's put you in a trauma workshop, right? I'm going to say, let's work with your nutritionist, let's work with your movement specialist, let's work with your autoimmune doctor, and let's see if we can bring down the levels of inflammation, right? If the social issue is the problem, let's say you're in a toxic work environment, where every time you walk into work, you're triggered. Your heart is racing. You have broken self-esteem because people are like, not kind to you, and this is your job that you depend on for your livelihood. I'm not going to say, well, you know, let's have you go see your cardiologist. I'm going, to fix that fight or flight sensation in your chest, I'm going to say, it's your work environment. Let's see if we get you more support at work or get you out of that environment. So everyone has different factors going on, and I think that makes us really unique and special, but it also complicates things a bit further. So I wanted to democratize this tool that is taught in all of medicine and let everyone have access to it so they can understand their unique workup and areas that they should really focus on first and their step to understanding the science of their own happiness. Lesley Logan 16:24  I love that and I do see that there's a challenge there, because we are kind of trained that if you ask the question, you should get an answer, and that answer should help you. But it is true. You know, we all have different needs, especially, and at different times. And I love the idea of the three bubbles, because you can evaluate for yourself, oh, it is more of the psychos. That's where I need to go get help. It is more of this. But I do love like defining our own happiness, which is not easy if you never explored that, if that wasn't something that we were invited to do or even feel. And so I think that where I feel my listeners struggle, where I get a lot of questions, is almost like, how do they know if they're happy? How do they know? Because they're so busy doing and they might even feel like the pain of stuff that's going on, but they're having a really hard time feeling what's happy also, because I think as women, specifically, we sometimes feel bad if I'm happy and they're going through something, I should put things around so people can't see that I'm happy. I should bring my happiness. I should come down. So, I mean, is there tips on how to know what makes you happy? Dr. Judith Joseph 17:30  Yes, and that is why I have a happiness lab in New York City. And a lot of people don't know this, but happiness researchers, we very rarely use that word happy. People are like mind-boggled when they hear that, because a patientwho will come in to see me for private practice will say, all I want to do is be happy. And so I wear two hats. I wear the research hat and then the private practice hat, where I do traditional therapy and medication, but the research hat is really trying to understand whether or not this person's getting happy or worse, and we use points in research. And so I developed this scale, the Anhedonia Rating Scale. Anhedonia means a lack of joy and pleasure. So basically, you want to know how many points you're getting in these basic pleasures in life. If you have like, high anhedonia and you're not enjoying things, then that's a problem. I love to use these quantitative ways because unlike, you know, let's say diabetes, right? If you go on for diabetes tests, you know where your glucose is, you know where your hemoglobin A1C is. But with mental health, it's kind of harder, like you don't have a test where you can look at and say, oh, I'm getting happier, right? But these quantitative measures, these tests, are really helpful. So you can go on my website, take the Anhedonia Quiz and see if you're getting points of joy. Lesley Logan 18:44  You have a quiz? Dr. Judith Joseph 18:45  Yes, I have an Anhedonia Quiz on my website, and you can see whether or not you're getting points of joy in life. And then what I ask is that people practice the five V's, because that's based on the science of your happiness. So the five v's are, number one is validation. A lot of us with high functioning we're always pushing down our feelings if they're negative. We only talk about the good. We don't like to talk about the bad. Someone says, how you're doing, oh, I'm great, and your house could literally be burning down, and you're saying, great, you know? So I want people to start learning how to accept their emotions, whether they be negative or positive, and there are many tools that I give in my book on how to validate, because people have a hard time with validation. Number two is venting. How do you express your emotions? And there are ways to do healthy venting, but there are ways to engage in unhealthy venting. I do a lot of content on, you know, narcissistic parents, and a lot of us had parents who trauma dumped on us when it was not appropriate. So I talk about how to vent in an appropriate way and the different creative ways to vent. You mentioned crying. You know, crying is something that a lot of people don't engage in because they think from childhood they were told to stop crying, you know, like you're a cry baby. But crying is actually a very healthy way to express emotions. And when you cry and you let a good cry, your body calms down, you feel relaxed, you feel more connected to you. The third V is values. And I say that values are things that don't have price tags. They are things that are priceless. So tap into things that, you know what and when you think at the end of the day, your last minutes of life, you're not going to be like, I wish I had that Gucci bag. You're going to be like, I wish I had five minutes with my loved ones, or I wish I had 10 minutes to do something that I always wanted to do, you know? So tap into those values. Try to get part of those values once a day. For me, it's learning and sharing my knowledge with my daughter, so, like, I love to learn black history and science, and I teach her because she wants to be a scientist. That makes me feel great, or when I volunteer and I offer my expertise to underprivileged youth, because that was me at one point in life that makes me feel good, that, you know, that's a value that I'm going to be like, wow, I wish I could do. I wish I did more good in life, you know. And then the fourth is vital. So we only get one body and brain. We have to take care of it. And so, you know, that's probably a lot where you come in, in terms of understanding how to honor the mind-body connection, eating foods that decrease inflammation that are not processed, drinking enough water, getting sleep, you know, like putting that phone away and getting really rich sleep, getting movement that actually helps your longevity and makes you feel happier, and understanding how relationships can be very toxic. And I wish that this was taught in school when I was growing up, but a lot of people don't understand how negative relationships can really drain your life force, and then having that healthy work life balance that's all in the vitals. And then the fifth V is vision. How do you plan for joy in the future? And when I say a future, I don't mean like, 10 years from now. I mean like, as in an hour from now. So for example, after this podcast, I'm gonna have a nice dinner, probably curry or sushi, and I'm gonna eat it, not in front of a screen. I might watch a little bit of Emily in Paris, because that's my guilty pleasure. You know, like these are little points of joy that I'm gonna plan, to treat myself, because today I helped people. I talked with you, these are all things that I need to celebrate, but we don't celebrate but we don't celebrate that. We're like, well, we're supposed to be doing these things, you know, no, every time I get my daughter to school on time, I pat myself on the back, and I sit and I drink my coffee, my oat milk latte, and I take my time. I don't go straight to work. I go home. Take my time. It, 5, 10 minutes, and just say I did a good job. I got her to work. I got her to school on time today. These are all things that we can savor in life, but we rush, we're busy. We don't take the time. We don't treat ourselves like human beings. You know, how many times have you eaten in front of a screen and they're like, you can't even taste the food, you know, and you love the food, but you're like, did you enjoy that meal? Not really. I just needed to get rid of that hunger pain. So the five Vs can really help you to understand the science of your happiness. Once you do that Venn diagram, and then you apply the five Vs to your life, it can really make a difference and increase those little points of joy every day. Lesley Logan 23:11  I really love each one of those in a different way, also what I'm getting. I love that you introduced yourself as high functioning AF, because I do think that a lot of the people like myself and the people who listen to this podcast, we start to think like, maybe I should do less. If I just do less, then I'll be happier. But then we are not happier doing less, because we are people who want to do things, and we are high-functioning people we and so I loved that it's not necessarily about not doing stuff, it's about how you do stuff and how you acknowledge what you're doing. And I think that that's really special, because it's sort of going, going, going, it's like, yeah, pat, I got my kid, my daughter at school on time today. Way to go. Yes. We have an episode on Fridays here. It's called Fuck Yeah Friday. And just this year I changed it so, like, I share a story from Instagram or the internet that, like, inspired me, some woman who inspired me whatever she did. But then it's about sharing the wins from the listeners. So they send in a win, and sometimes they send in these wins, like I finally did, blah, blah, blah. And my favorite wins are, like, I actually made dinner for myself and I went to bed on time, and I'm like, yes, that's a win. That's a huge win. You know, we have to give ourselves credit for that, because, just because it's what you think you're supposed to be doing you not celebrating it is not going to help you enjoy doing it in the future, and it's not going to help you do it in the future. So I, those are my favorites, and so that's what the episode is about. It's about celebrating the things we did do, as opposed to like these achievements that we're waiting to celebrate until a certain time comes. I think that that is, it's hard to do. Most people can't see a win in something or a celebration in something that they're supposed to do. So thank you for highlighting that. Your book. You wrote a book. I think anyone who writes a book to get their word out into the world is amazing, because it's not the easiest thing to write a book. Who is the book for and what are you hoping they get from it?Dr. Judith Joseph 24:55  I'm glad you said that people who are high-functioning AF want to do everything, because five Vs is a lot. And I can personally say, and I say this in the book, pick one or two, because the rule of twos says you really shouldn't be working on more than one or two things at a time. But I like one and two. I like validation, because it's something we can all do. And I like venting a lot, like, sometimes I'll just be so exhausted, and I'm like, why am I so tired? I'm like, wait a second, I'm not practicing the five Vs. I validate, I acknowledge, actually, I am tired. I had a long day. And then I vent. Sometimes I say it out loud. Or I'll tell my partner, listen, I had a really busy day. Or I'll tell my daughter, I was like, oh, mommy, had a busy day, you know? Like, I then I really try. Or I'll, like, put something on Canva, on IG, and say I've had a rough day, or something like that, but I'm venting. I'm expressing. And the other things, you know, the values, I try to tap into at least something a little a day, you know, for my values, vitals, that's hard to get to. I don't work out every day. I try to, but it doesn't happen. But at least if I'm not going to work out, well, I'm going to eat well. And if I'm not going to eat well, I'm gonna sleep better or drink more water or limit my screen time. So, there's a temptation to want to do it all, but pick one or two and tap into it, and then score yourself and see if the anhedonia is getting better. And I really do believe that once you start to do these things that are not expensive, like these, are all things within your capacity, right, to democratize mental health, you can do these things, and your life will be happier. But this book is for that family member who never acknowledges how they're feeling when they struggle because they're the rock. The book is for that entrepreneur who really is afraid of bankruptcy, doesn't ever want to be in that position again, and overworks and overextends and doesn't enjoy their wins. It's for that mom out there who puts everyone before herself, who feels depleted but can't slow down because she feels empty and restless when she sits still she doesn't even know what makes her happy anymore. You know, it's for that immigrant student who feels as if everyone's dreams are on their back and they can't fail, they can't tell anyone that they're struggling, it really is for those people who wear a mask, like the educator, the teacher who spends all their money getting their students supplies, but doesn't even eat lunch, you know like you are seeing you matter, so take care of yourself, because there's no one else like you, and you're worthy of it.Lesley Logan 27:27  That is so beautiful, and I love that you can be in a different walk of life and this book is still for you, because there is, we all have these dreams and aspirations, and sometimes those are other people's dreams and aspirations on top of that, and it can just be a lot. I'm assuming the five Vs are in this book. If people want to, like, read and score and write notes, I do want to attach that I love, that you put values in there. It's something I really in this house, like, we like to all filter things through my, our values. And I'm like, that's a no, because it's not hitting one of these things, and I can't take on more than that. So I love that. And if it can fit one of these things, I could do it, but doesn't. But I never thought about, like, how to make sure I'm acting with that as a way of finding some joy. Because, yeah, that's really, really cool. And yes, I love that if you're not moving well, then eat well. And if you're not going to eat well, then you got to sleep well. You got to do something. You got to do something for your body. Yes. For you, you practice those five Vs because so in 2020 you felt like, okay, I must have this, like, high-functioning depression thing. Obviously, you worked your way through and this is where you're at, is this something that, as a high-functioning person, you might dip in and out of or you can start to recognize it. And the goal is, like you recognize it faster, so you don't go into the depression for too long before you get yourself out. Like, I guess what I'm asking is for my perfectionist is like, is this a light switch once we get over our shit, can we feel really awesome and we never have to go back? Or is this something that we gotta just monitor?Dr. Judith Joseph 28:55  I'm glad you said that, because one of the risk factors for this is something called people-pleasing. But people don't realize that people-pleasing is actually a watered down version of masochism. So before the term masochistic personality disorder was removed from the DSM, the bible of psychiatry, it was really a caricature of someone who sacrifices their own happiness for someone else's happiness, or who's constantly in a position of giving and not getting. And when people think of masochism, they think of sex. But it's not that type of masochism. It's the personality traits that makes people bend over backwards when they shouldn't be but they feel as if that's the only way right? These are doers. They do, do do but what ends up happening is that the takers, they don't, like, thank you. They're resentful of you. They're like, well, do everything because you wanted something, or did you think I wasn't capable? So it actually backfires. So falling into these traits of being a doer is a pattern. It's a way of life for so long but yeah, you're going to work on yourself, but there's going to be a time when you fall back, and I'm guilty of that too. I'm constantly oscillating. But when I start to practice the five Vs and I'm like, let me, like I just demonstrated, let me validate that I went through a hard day, let me acknowledge these feelings, it's easier for me to snap out of that downward spiral because I'm practicing these skills. And so I always explain happiness as when we think of happiness, we think of this picture in the future, like I finally got the job, or I finally got the clout, or I finally got the thing that I wanted, the person that I wanted, the home that I wanted. And then what research shows us is that when we get these things, we're still unhappy. We're on to the next right? So my philosophy has shifted to finding happiness in the now. So when I get into that slump where I'm like, looking around me and I'm like, oh, so and so is doing that, and I'm starting to feel low, and maybe I should be doing more, it's easier for me to snap back into my values, right? I acknowledge how I feel, I validate, I vent it, but then I also tap into my values. And I'm like, wait, but I don't value what they value. My values are different, and I'm pretty good right here, where I am, I'm pleased in what I value right now. So that allows me to slow down. And so I think the more you practice this, the more exposure you get to this. Not only do you change, but the people around you change. I always say anhedonia is contagious, but joy is contagious, too. If you've ever had a boss that was a micromanager who was doing everything and you all were like, oh my gosh, we're so busy, we're all burnt out. And if that something good happened to that boss, let's say they finally dated someone, or they finally got validation in life, or something happened and or maybe even they got ill and they realized this is not important. When that boss shifts, the organization shifts, right? An organization is only as good as its CEO. So I think that anhedonia is contagious, but so is joy. So when you start to shift inside, people are going to notice it. They're going to come towards you and be like something's different. I want what you have, and you may not be more successful, you may not have more money, you may not be more beautiful, but you have something that they want, and they're going to gravitate towards you, but you have to get it for yourself. They can't have what you have. And I really do think that people will start to cultivate joy within themselves by understanding the science of your happiness and applying your five Vs to your life. Lesley Logan 28:55  Oh my gosh. I feel like every woman has to get this book for their best friend, just even as preventative, even if your friend isn't going through this yet, it's true that anhedonia is contagious, and also so can that high function like the doing can be contagious too. So I really appreciate you. I feel like we could learn so much. Now I might have to just binge out on every video you make, but I can't wait to read the book when it comes out, and probably send it to 17 of my friends. So we're gonna take a brief break, though, and then find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you, get your book and then your Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 32:58  All right, Dr. Judith, you truly have given us a wealth of knowledge. Where can people connect with you, get your book. Where do you like to hang out? Dr. Judith Joseph 33:06  So they can buy my book at drjudithjoseph.com or follow me on IG, Dr. Judith Joseph and all the socials they could find my book there. And if you order before the pub date, you get preorder bonuses, and I have courses on the science of your happiness and ways to take you through the five Vs. Lesley Logan 33:27  Oh my goodness. Thank you so much for bringing you. You really have given us a lot, the five Vs is amazing. So if that ends up being part of this Be It Action Items, that's totally fine with me, but something that caused this podcast to exist is I would be drawn to someone and love what they said, and then going, okay, like, what is my first next step, though, you know? And so the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Dr. Judith Joseph 33:51  I just recently did this guided meditation with Deepak Chopra, and he said something that I thought was profound. He just kept saying, lose your name and just say I am. And it's really like a part of the just be, you know, what is it to just be? And if you could just take five minutes a day just to feel your being, just to get to know yourself again, I think many of us have forgotten who we are. So if you could just be, you know, I say, be a human being, not a human doing, you could learn so much about yourself. That self-reflection time, you could practice the five V's during that time, you could just practice one, validation, right, and just be. It sounds simple, but I think it's very difficult for a lot of us to just be. Lesley Logan 34:40  To sit for five minutes is very difficult. And you guys, like, what I found is like, 30 minutes is only 2% of your day, so five minutes is, like, not even a half a percent. So I don't do math well, so don't correct me. But if we cannot take five minutes for our day, we really do have to re evaluate what we're doing and who we're doing it for, because that is not the easiest thing to just be for five minutes, but ooh, I sit in a cold plunge every morning for four minutes, four minutes. And here's why, my tub is not big enough for my whole body. So three minutes with like, shoulders, hips, stomach, ankles, and then a minute for the knees to go in. And what I can say is I don't want to do it before I get in. I step in and I'm like, why am I doing this? I get in, I'm like, the air is sucked out, and then within a few seconds, you kind of settle in, and you're like, I just have to be here for four minutes. This is all I have to do. And it really is something that I'm so grateful that I do every day, because it does let me, like, set to go okay, today is today. Here I am today. I'm not even thinking about the schedule. It's just kind of like this moment and just being in this moment, where am I feeling this and how am I doing? And I highly recommend it. You don't have to get a plunge, but it just sits still for five minutes and see how you're doing. I highly recommend. I love that Be It Action Item. I think it'll be a challenge for a lot of people, unfortunately, but also I hope it's one that they take on, because I do love that. Dr. Judith, you are fabulous. I hope to one day, run into you and see what you're doing changing this world, because I do think this, your book and what you're saying are really what people are needing to hear right now. And I also just want to highlight one more time, everything you said in those five Vs is not actually going to cost a lot of money. It's like things you can just do by evaluating and addressing. So I appreciate tips like that. So thank you being you. Lesley Logan 36:18  Y'all, how are you gonna use these tips in your life? Make sure you tag Dr. Judith, you tag the Be It Pod, share this with a friend, but this is a friend who needs to hear it, you know, sometimes we feel like we have to help everyone, and sometimes we can help them by sending Dr. Judith's words to them so that she can help them and you can go back to taking care of you. So thank you so much. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 36:39  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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It's time to celebrate your wins, Be It babe! In this Fuck Yeah Friday episode, Lesley shares an inspiring story of resilience from librarians saving books, uplifting wins from the eLevate community, and a personal self-care journey that's bringing unexpected joy. Whether it's investing in your Pilates practice, embracing new routines, or simply learning to indulge in self-care, this episode is your reminder that now is the time to prioritize yourself. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.All right, Be It babe, hello. How are you? Happy Friday. So this is where I share a little bit of inspo that I got from the internet, a little bit of inspo from you, and a little bit of inspo from me, and then a little mantra. It's the Fuck Yeah Friday. If you're new to our podcast, this is our short episode. It's really a lot of fun. You never know what you're gonna get. But also, I might share one of your wins, so send them in. Literally, send your wins in. Please, come on. It's so much fun. So this inspired me when I was on Instagram, and it comes from librarian.vibes, and it says, librarians create fake library card to save thousands of books. I know. Isn't this amazing? So this librarian said there's nothing more sacred to a librarian than a library card. But when a town in Florida decided to burn all the books that hadn't been taken out in a while, local librarians made a fake card for one Chuck Finley, Chuck, who doesn't exist, checked out 2,361 books to keep them from being Fahrenheit 451.So I truly love this. I love a little bit of resistance to like things that just aren't making any sense. And so may I just suggest that if you are afraid of amazing books being banned or not being able like one of the ways you can do it. I saw this other girl on Instagram every month just going and buying some of the books on the banned list, just going and buying them while they're still around where she's at, so that they stay in existence, right? So this inspired me, very inspired by it. So anyways, I hope that inspires you. Isn't that kind of cool? 2,361 books don't get burned because Chuck Finley doesn't exist. Check them out. Love that. Love that for them. Okay, so your wins that came through, honestly, I've spent a lot of time with my eLevators, so I'm gonna share some of theirs. So this one is from Lisa Osoteo, dear eLevator family, I'm so excited to introduce to you Esme, my Wunda chair, short for Esmeralda, in honor of her beautiful grotto, teal green color and Violet, my sumptuous Spine Corrector. I chose the colors sight unseen, just computer swatches, and when I got Violet, she lived up to her name, though, truth be told, she also gives off a Barney and Grimace vibe. So despite her proper sounding given name, she's also Biolet Barney Grimace or VBG. If she's wanting to be posh, she'll also answer to Violet Bader Ginsburg, her name when she helps me inhabit a spine of steel. I did my first chair workout yesterday on Esme, and she kicked my butt. I haven't yet to be broken in by VBG. This dynamic duo put me through my paces. Kidding aside, I'm celebrating that. One, eLevators taught me the value of a personal practice. And two, that my practice warrants investing in my own classical Pilates equipment. And three, that I have the knowledge to know which equipment I need to support an essential home practice. And finally, four, that I have this community who share Pilates equipment birth announcements. It's a thing, Esme and Violet. February 4th 2025 I mean, so fun. I wish I could post you the picture. It's just adorable and amazing, and the colors are beautiful. And now I need to get my own violet version of something for my studio. I have a grotto, and it is stunning. It is a color is worth repeating. So thank you, Lisa, for letting us celebrate the births of Esme and VBG. This next one is Christine Ivy, and she is one of my new eLevators, and she wrote. I videotaped myself doing the mat so I could watch and see where I am in my practice, especially in terms of stable shoulder girdle connection and back extension. It was really helpful to see evidence of where I am and what I need to work on, humbling and helpful. And I wanted to share that with you guys as a win, because here's the deal, my loves. We've all heard feelings are not facts, you know what I mean? Like, like feelings are not facts. And in our bodies, it's really easy for us to feel like we are in extension when really we're just like a PEZ dispenser with our neck, or feel like we're tall when really we're leaning forward. So I don't like mirrors in a studio, although obviously they have to exist in a little bit. But I don't love people just looking at themselves all the time. I kind of like people moving their bodies and then film something. And so at OPC, we actually let our members film themselves doing an exercise or two and send them in. And I can give feedback, because it may be that they just need to move their feet a little bit further to the right, or they need to actually reach down through their heels more, like sometimes, just need someone else's eyes to tell you what you're feeling, yes, but also here it is, and then you can find it better, and you can find it faster. And I just love that we do that. So thanks, Christine, for sharing that win because it's not easy to look at yourself and go, okay, oh, I see, I feel like I'm doing like this, but really, I'm cheating myself out of this. So thanks for sharing that. I can't wait to see how your practice continues to grow inside of eLevate. All right, a win of mine. So you guys, I gotta be honest, I think I've shared this part of this as a win earlier this year, but here we are in April, and this is about a year ago when, like, my lashes grew in and I could, like, finally doing it with them, but I am sharing that I have truly, absolutely loved, having fun getting to do a self-care routine that is for my face. When I had fake lashes, you can't really wash your face, you can't rub your eyes. You couldn't do that right? And so I'm obsessed with washing my face and then putting this moisturizing rinse on my eyes in the shower and gua sha-ing my skin. And I actually have learned how to gua sha with just my fingers as well, because there's ways you can do that for your lymphatic drainage. I know you're like how is this a win? It is a win because one, I absolutely love doing my makeup. I think it's really a lot of fun. I don't go off to go do my makeup. I also go out without my makeup all the time, but I am actually having so much fun getting to know myself and my look and who I am. But more importantly is the removal of the makeup and having access to my whole face and then the self care that I can do. And if you're like, wow, she's really indulging herself. Yes, I am, and I hope it inspires you, because, my goodness, we all need to be a little more indulgent about how our bodies feel. And I say this, my mean, like massaging my face. Because, my goodness, if you we talked about this with Ashley Black, the fascia person you know, spending 20 minutes like fascia-blasting your body, what that does for you. And so here I am in April, truly loving all the things I can do for myself. And I, you know, some of us like, oh, I gotta go gua sha. I've gotta go wash my face. Gotta go brush my teeth. Honestly, there's something so rewarding about cherishing all the things that I do as a nighttime routine, not only do they help me sleep, but also they really do make me feel good inside and out. So I hope that this win of me having a habit of gua sha-ing my face and loving taking my makeup off gives you some inspiration on like where you can have some gratitude, and also where you can be a little more indulgent, right? All right, a mantra for you. Here we go. We gotta leave you with something to think about. Now is the time. Now is the time. My loves, whatever you're thinking about doing, and when am I gonna do it? Now is the time. Here's your sign. Thank you so much for letting me share all this stuff with you. It's really a lot of fun to do solo episodes, celebrating your wins, celebrating something in my life, celebrating something that was pretty cool, that someone did. And a mantra, if you have any wins you want me to share, please send them in, because you might need to hear them today. Wouldn't it be amazing if you were having a rough day and then you heard about something you did for yourself? Bet you it would change your day. All right, loves, you know what to do. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Recapping Lesley's powerful conversation with Monique Rhodes, a globally recognized happiness strategist, this episode explores how small, intentional shifts—like practicing gratitude, creating a “bubble of influence,” and embracing discomfort—can lead to greater joy and emotional strength. Tune in for Monique's actionable steps for managing negativity and reclaiming your peace and purpose.  If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How the "bubble of influence" creates joy for yourself and others.Our societal obsession with comfort and why embrace discomfort.How gratitude reframes your mindset and increases happiness.The danger of toxic positivity—and why feeling all emotions matters.The “Sixes Method” for letting go of stress and gaining perspective.Episode References/Links:April UK Mullet Tour Waitlist - https://opc.me/ukApril Spring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comMonique Rhodes Website - https://moniquerhodes.comMonique Rhodes Happiness Activation System - https://iintendtobehappy.comTara Schuster's Book: Buy Yourself the Fucking Lilies - https://a.co/d/etSRpDr If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:53  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the gratifying convo I had with Monique Rhodes in our last episode. I was also a happy episode. It was like a happy convo. Brad Crowell 1:04  It was awesome. Lesley Logan 1:04  It was so, I'm obsessed with this woman. Gotta figure out how to get on a retreat with her. Anyways, you have to listen to that one. I don't care when you listen to it, but it's a must. Brad Crowell 1:14  It's a directive. We're telling you, you gotta go listen to the last episode. Lesley Logan 1:18  I really enjoyed. It was just so great. Brad Crowell 1:19  She's very inspiring, very compelling. Lesley Logan 1:21  Yeah. But also I found myself going, oh crap, I have to stop the episode. Like, I have to stop interviewing her, because it's time. Brad Crowell 1:29  Oh, you mean it just kept going. You were like keep going. Lesley Logan 1:31  I just kept going. I was just like, I'm just gonna keep talking. I like, love this woman. Anyways, before we get into Monique Rhodes, today is April 3rd 2025 and it's Weed Out Hate Day. It's a day that speaks of the importance of being kind and thoughtful towards others. This holiday is much needed in today's world, especially in today's world so where selfishness reigns supreme and assholes do, too. I inserted that myself. Marc Daniels came up with the holiday in honor of his grandfather, Ross Daniels, the inventor of the Ross Root Feeder. This revolutionary irrigation tool allowed nutrients to get to the deepest roots and trees of our plants, thus helping them achieve peak health and more bountiful harvest. The main goal of Weed Out Hate Day is connect gardeners and kindergarteners with the natural world while improving society in the process. Weed Out Hate Day removes the roadblocks that prevent children from achieving their full potential. Those who participate in the ceremony learn to kick out any negative influences in their lives and bring in more positive aspects. I think that's cool. I think somehow they took they're like, we take out weeds, and we are gonna help children take out the weeds in their lives. Brad Crowell 2:40  Yeah, they're gonna inspire kids. I think that was really great. Lesley Logan 2:42  I think so too. I think I love it so much. Brad Crowell 2:44  That's a heck of a marketing team. Lesley Logan 2:46  It really, really is Ross. Ross the rooter. Brad Crowell 2:52  Marc came up with it. Lesley Logan 2:53  I know, but his dad was, grandfather was Ross the rooter. Anyways. Well, I mean, there are certain people in this world that I think are freaking worthy of all the hate in the world. There are individual people with names we all know. But that being said, unfortunately, we live in a world where they're like just people are hating on entire groups of people, or trying to inspire hate on all groups of people. And I think we can all understand that everyone just wants love and to feel seen, and it actually is a lot easier to love strangers, than hate them. It's really freaking hard. But also, if you're like, I don't have the time to think about other people in this world, Lesley. That's fine. Remove the haters in your life. Block and bless. Goodbye. Lesley Logan 3:30  Okay, we are getting really, really close to a couple April things that you need to know about, and one of them is when we go to the UK this fall. If you are in the UK or the EU and you want to join the workshops that we're doing, at two different cities, you're going to want to go to opc.me/uk to get on the waitlist, because those on the waitlist will get the early bird price, and these events can sell out pretty quickly, because they sold out last time we were there. Space is small, so we're only gonna have so many. So not only would you get the best price, but you would also get the option to actually attend, because it will only go public if there are rooms, there are spots left. So, opc.me/uk. Also happening in April. It's going.Brad Crowell 4:10  Meaning get on the waitlist, because if it sells out on the waitlist, then we're not even going to announce it. Lesley Logan 4:15  Right, right. You'll just hear that we're going, and you'll have missed out. Brad Crowell 4:18  Yep. So, opc.me/uk. Lesley Logan 4:21  And we're not doing the UK in 2026 I'm going to tell you right now. So the next one, I don't know when that is. April 27th through May 3rd is going to be the. Brad Crowell 4:30  Spring Training. Lesley Logan 4:31  Spring Training. You guys, I just picked out the uniforms for the teachers.Brad Crowell 4:35  Oh, you did.Lesley Logan 4:35  Yeah. Brad Crowell 4:36  Nice. Lesley Logan 4:37  Yeah. It's like an actual baseball tee. Brad Crowell 4:38  Oh, cool. Lesley Logan 4:39  It's so cool. It's so cute. But now, because August is the bat dog, I feel like we need to get, like, a costume for him. I just gotta, I gotta find it out. Anyways, it's going to be April 27th through May 3rd. If you're an OPC member, it's free. If you're not an OPC member, you're going to want to go to opc.me/events to get on the waitlist, because those on the waitlist will save money on the ticket to your Spring Training. And the theme is the Pilates Push Up, and if you hate it, then this is for you. And if you love it, then we'll see you there. But if you hate it, you have to come, because whatever you hate you gotta do twice. We got not 10 classes. So there you go, plenty of opportunities to discover some love for it. Brad Crowell 5:15  Opc.me/events, oh, side note, it actually wraps up on the International Pilates Day, which is May 3rd. So, how fun is that? Lesley Logan 5:23  Is that possible because are we ending on a Saturday? Brad Crowell 5:25  Yeah. Lesley Logan 5:26  Oh, then it is on International Pilates Day. Some, in my brain we were ending on a Sunday. And I'm like, okay, somehow we got that wrong. But no, and you know what, guys? Call your friend. Yeah. Okay. Up next, Brad has something very special for the Pilates teachers and studio owners in this world. Brad Crowell 5:42  Yeah, that's right. If you're feeling stuck in your Pilates business and you're trying to figure out, how do I grow, or how do I make more money, or how to get new clients, I want you to join me. Come to a free webinar where I'm talking about growth, growth for your Pilates business, whether you have a studio, whether you have a home studio, or you're taking clients and renting from someone else, it's all applicable. Lesley Logan 6:04  This is all really important. It's important you know the growth that you want, and that's very, that's really important to me because a lot of companies that coach Pilates businesses, they all have one way to coach you, and it is to grow you to a place that might not be where you want to go, might mean not how you want to teach. And I just had someone DM me today that they're like, quitting teaching because they're exhausted from the model that they've been doing. She's like, yeah, I'm gonna get another job. I just can't do it anymore. And I was like, well, that's really sad. It's sad for you. It's sad for the people who could be taught by you. And if you are feeling like you're in burnout, if it keeps going the way it's going, then you actually need our help. The world can't lose you because you're the only person who can do what you do the way that you do it. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator to hear more about all that goodness, and then.Brad Crowell 6:49  Profit without the O, prfit.biz/accelerator.Lesley Logan 6:52  And then, you guys gotta come to Cambodia. I want to spend, I get to spend a week with you. It was so funny when people were leaving, I was like, oh, they're gone. There was a space missing on Friday morning. And we're like, oh, everyone has left the space for Sarah, because she had to leave on the Thursday night, well it's almost like Friday morning, so she got to all the things but the last class. And we're like, oh, Sarah's gone. And then we said goodbye to everyone, because they were leaving. And so we went off to do something, and we're like, oh, it's just the four of us now. And then the next day we say goodbye to that, last year, we're like, oh, we're alone. We're alone by now. Like, you just think, I'm a family, and it's so fun. So you want. Brad Crowell 7:33  It was amazing. We had an incredible group in February. Lesley Logan 7:35  Well, we already have a great group coming this October. We have people who have come before, so they're doing that second one. Brad Crowell 7:40  That's right, coming a second time and bringing somebody new. A couple of OPC members are coming. Agency members are coming. Do we have eLevators yet on this one? Regardless. Lesley Logan 7:50  One of the repeaters is an eLevator. Brad Crowell 7:52  Oh, eLevators. Yeah. Lesley Logan 7:53  You don't have to be any of those things. You can just come and then we can hang out and you can see if you want to do more things with us, or you can say that was fabulous. Thank you for my lovely vacation. Bye. Just really awesome. So go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot for this October. In 2026, we're only offering the retreat one time, and so you don't want to wait two years. I'm just saying. You don't want to wait two years. Okay, we have to get to Monique, because I really want to talk about Monique, but first we have an audience question. Brad Crowell 8:25  Okay. Sierra Pilates in Prague on the IG says, Hey, regarding the 100, what are your favorite cues when teaching it to beginners? Lesley Logan 8:28  So everyone's obsessed with cues. I think we've talked about cues before on this podcast. There are no favorite cues for beginners. Beginners just need to do the best that they can, and it needs to be simple. So no straightening your legs across the room like a mermaid tail. That's not it. Like, honestly, it's curl your head and chest up, pump your arms up and down. Okay. Are you breathing? Breathe in, breathe out, and then give them a break, and then do it again.Brad Crowell 8:54  Especially for beginners, like, I'm a beginner, okay? I don't even know how the damn exercise works when the cues get complicated, I'm thinking more about the analogy or the complication than I am about the thing I'm supposed to be doing.Lesley Logan 9:09  And then when I say, do the 100 the next time you're like, what exercise is that? Because there was so many cues coming at you that you couldn't actually remember the name of the exercise, but the movement of the exercise to do the exercise so you can get corrections, which is, to me, what people mean when they mean cues. I think they mean like a correction or a direction.Brad Crowell 9:27  And I actually think that when you get to the point where somebody understands, you say the 100, and they're still doing it wrong, or they need to improve on something, the cue then that you are making it's personal to the body in front of you. Lesley Logan 9:42  Way to go, babe. That's exactly it. You can't just, there could be 75,000 things you could say.Brad Crowell 9:49  You might end up with half a dozen different ones that you regularly use, because you see that many clients, and you see a similar problem. But honestly, it's not a one size fits all. It's literally, it's not possible for that to be the thing. Lesley Logan 10:01  So I would just say, like, I actually don't necessarily have beginners lift their legs up for the 100. I also, we've talked about this before, I don't teach them in tabletop either. I just leave their legs down and I see if they can actually do the head and chest curl and without using their neck. And if they can, then when they come down, I'm like, okay, this time we're gonna lift your legs up and then, and if that goes like crap. Guess what, this time, put your legs down, pump your arms. That's what I would just say. So no cues, because they gotta know what they exercise. Thank you for that question. Send your questions and I love answering them. They're so much fun for me. Okay, now we gotta get into Monique Rhodes. Brad Crowell 10:34  Yes, stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 10:36  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about Monique Rhodes. Monique is a globally recognized happiness strategist and expert in mental resilience, mindfulness and purposeful living. She teaches practical methods to help individuals shift perspectives, build emotional resilience and cultivate a fulfilling life. Her work is featured in over 70 colleges and universities worldwide, which I didn't know that, that's insane, and she collaborates with leading corporations to enhance well being and productivity through her programs, retreats and speaking engagements. Monique empowers thousands to live with more ease and intention. What an inspiring conversation. Lesley Logan 11:15  So inspired. I was so inspired. I've actually talked about this little thing I'm about to talk about right now, almost daily, because I just really love it. She said everywhere we go, we've got all these things that are showing us there's loads of reasons to be miserable. Like, literally, every time you open up your phone, anytime you talk to a friend, they're like, here are 70 ways to be miserable. Or if you even, hey, oh my God, this is going on, someone else goes oh, but this is happening over here. People just want to bring us down all the time, because there's a fuck ton of shit going on in this world. But you know what, you can also be happy, and there can be a fuck ton of shit going on this world. Not that you're like, the shit makes you happy, but like, you have a life that's happy and there's this going on. So anyways, she said, instead of absorbing stress and chaos, you can create a little bubble of influence that is our small ways you can create joy daily. And she talked about the bubble of influence is like us doing nice things for other people. That brings us joy, because we did something nice for other people, and it makes other people also have joy as well. And so it was really quite cool. She said there are so many small ways that we can influence our lives that we don't even think about. We can sit every day and say to ourselves, what am I grateful for?Brad Crowell 12:19  I feel like this is the episode that people are going to save. Favorite it, not this one, but the one before, the interview, and they're going to listen to it again and again, because I don't even remember her saying that, and I recently listened to it, right? There's so many things in this episode. I also think that in the section, she was talking about chaos and politics and all this stuff. And she said, we don't have any control over that. We don't have any control over that. My argument would be, we can participate by voting, and we can participate by. Lesley Logan 12:50  Calling our congressman. But once you've done all that, that's really it. You can vote with your dollars all those things. So that's what you can do. But beyond that, I can't make the people that I voted for do the thing that I asked them to do. I can't make them so I can only do what I can do. So I can't just go, oh, I'm gonna stress around what they didn't do today. Instead, I can actually go, what am I grateful for, though? And here's what's really, gonna add to this. I'm reading another book. Buy Yourself the Fucking Lilies or something like that. Anyways, I thought it was new. It's not. It's been around for a while, but I'm gonna try to get her on the pod. I'm gonna DM her, since it's not a new book, she clearly is not busy promoting the book, but she said do a daily 10 gratitudes in your journal, so if you don't know what to journal, yeah. Tara Schuster, hi, Tara, if you're listening, I want you on the pod. Okay, that would be amazing. So buy yourself the Fucking Lilies, and I got a signed copy, by the way. I know. I just bought it off a shelf, and there it was. So anyways, she suggested in your journal just write down 10 things you're grateful for. It can be like, I'm really grateful that I painted my walls white and not the orange color that they were before. I don't know. You can come up with 10 things you're grateful for, because it does change how you feel about your day, which will change the happiness that you are experiencing in your life. Brad Crowell 14:04  I also like the bubble of influence, this idea that we can separate ourselves from the fear, the chaos that is bringing us down. I thought that was really cool.Lesley Logan 14:14  So we talked, the bubble of influence was like a simple compliment to a someone's smile. I love your smile. And I talked about this in the pod, like, my mom has this way of like, she doesn't let a person go by without giving them a compliment. Oh my God, those shoes are so good on you. Like, this person is just walking by, but you do it too. You just did it at the airport. He does it at the airport. He's, I like your jacket. The person didn't notice. So he's like, hey, I like your jacket. And this other guy goes, who me? And Brad said, no.Brad Crowell 14:40  I said no. And he goes, I didn't think so as he looks down his jacket, that's not awesome. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't like complimentary. It was funny. Lesley Logan 14:48  Complimenting other people actually makes them feel good, and it also reinforces your positive mindset, because it shows that you're looking for things to compliment people on or do things for people. So anyways, it's just really great. Go on, Brad. You say yours. Brad Crowell 15:00  Okay, all right, all right, all right. So I really loved when she was clarifying toxic positivity, right? Because people who are happy all the time, they must just be ignoring what isn't beneficial or happy to them, like they're suppressing it somehow. And she said, whatever emotions you suppress means that you're suppressing emotions across the spectrum, right? So you can't just suppress negative emotions. If you're suppressing emotions, you're suppressing emotions everywhere, right? The way that I took this too, is like, I guess it's not possible to suppress the negative emotions and still feel the positive emotions. Is what that really meant to me. Lesley Logan 15:37  Yeah, I mean, our yoga teacher, he talked about, you can't have love without hate, right? Like you can't actually experience love without having experienced hate. You cannot actually experience being healthy without experiencing sickness. So I love that her to talk about, if you suppress negative emotions, you're suppressing the emotions around that across the spectrum, so you're just starting, and then you're not going to feel anything at all, which is like, not, that's not a joyful life, either. Brad Crowell 16:06  Yeah. Well, she mentioned that we are stuck on this idea that we have to be comfortable all the time. And this really resonated with me. Lesley Logan 16:15  This was such a fun part of the conversation. Brad Crowell 16:17  Yeah, it was, just listening, like, first off, y'all, she decided to just move to India and motorcycled around India for four years. It wasn't like I did a trip for a month, no, four fucking years. That's insane. I loved it. I think that's amazing. And she said she intentionally picked these tiny little guest houses. And she said, life was kind of crazy, and you survived on the people being generous around you, and that just she obviously is not from India, right? So she stands out, but she was able to do it, and loved it. And she said it was an absolutely incredible experience. But she said, it's not comfortable. It's literally not comfortable.Lesley Logan 16:56  I actually really like this. And this is going to be another shout out to the retreat, if you want to experience a little discomfort, but you would like it to be comfortable, the retreat is really great for that, because. Brad Crowell 17:06  We don't have an infinity pool. Lesley Logan 17:07  We don't. We have curated an amazing schedule, but we can't control the weather. And on this trip, it was 94 degrees Fahrenheit, with 50% humidity, and you would be out, and we're like, wow, but you would also be taking in all this amazing stuff going on, and so you were uncomfortable, but also enjoying yourself. And it was just so cool to watch people who like, that's not how they would choose to live. That's not how their life is. But it also shows you what you're capable of, like, I'm capable of going out sweating like a crazy person and still having a good time. Brad Crowell 17:40  We do have air conditioning in the room. Lesley Logan 17:41  We do. Also, the beds are extremely comfortable. I really like them. Brad Crowell 17:45  Yeah. But this idea of being obsessed with comfort, and that's our society, especially in the United States, we are obsessed with comfort. We feel like we have to make things luxurious for ourselves at all times. And she said, what if you ate dinner sitting on the floor, like, you could do that in your house, where you have all the luxuries. Lesley Logan 18:03  Yeah, we were in line for security, you and me in Singapore, and in Asian airports, you guys, they don't have one security system that everybody goes through. And then you're on the other side of security. You actually have to have a ticket to get into the airport, but you can go get coffee, you have a nice meal, and go shopping all the things, and then you go to your gate, and that's where there's a security thing, right? Brad Crowell 18:24  So you don't do security until you're about to board. Lesley Logan 18:27  So there's literally, which is so nice, because sometimes you come into the airport with something, you're drinking. So you can do that at these airports and come in with some of what your drinking. So anyways, they only have, like, four bins, and this woman, who's five people behind us, so Brad and I have our bins, we are putting our stuff in our bin. And this woman, and she was an American, and she's like, walks up to the lady who's so nice and like, getting people their bins and giving it to them and answering questions, like, we don't have enough bins back here. And she said it so loud. Brad Crowell 18:59  She takes one of the bins, and clearly isn't looking, clearly doesn't actually pay attention at all. Lesley Logan 19:04  So now there's less bins for the people in front of her. Brad Crowell 19:07  Right, because there's only four or five in the entire security line, and they're being sent back to her on a little conveyor belt, and she snags one out of it, and the the lady that's working it like looked at her and kind of went, okay. Lesley Logan 19:20  I did an audible, I looked her in the eyes and kind of rolled my eyes at her, because that was like me going, that was dramatic. That was like unacceptable behavior. And I'm now Canadian, if you're from the States, because we're not the same person. She could not be uncomfortable standing in line waiting for her turn. And so I'm just going to say, lady, if you're listening, hi, you were seen. And this podcast is for you. Learn to be uncomfortable, because you'll have, we, it was such a happy experience, I know.Brad Crowell 19:51  So here's, here's where we go with this, right? She said, if you're uncomfortable like that, she said, instead of letting emotions take over, which this woman clearly did, she suggests observing them without judgment. If you're feeling angry, sit with that anger. Where is it in your body? Wow, this anger is in my this is inside of me right now. It's making my shoulders tight. It's making my stomach feel a little sick. It's making me feel warm. But I'm just going to sit here and I'm going to observe it. Lesley Logan 20:16  Right, because then you actually feel your feelings. You're not suppressing them, and you're also not letting them control you. You get all the benefits of all of the things, which I think is just what we all need. So anyways, you guys, next time you're uncomfortable, take Monique's and think about it. What was it? What are you feeling? Anyways, we could talk about Monique forever, but really you could just go listen to her, but before, we have to talk about her Be It Action Items. Brad Crowell 20:39  Yes. So stick around. We will be right back. Brad Crowell 20:43  All right, let's talk about those, Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Monique Rhodes? She said, hey, to avoid holding on to negativity or stress, assess what's worth your energy. And she said, there's the sixes method, which I thought was really interesting. She said, if this thing that is bending you out of shape, will it matter in six minutes, six hours, six days, six weeks or six months from now? If the answer is six months from now, this is going to be a problem, then you can then focus on it. But if it's not, then she says, I literally say to myself, let it go. Let it go. Right? And she said you can build resilience by stepping into discomfort daily. And it's a practice, just like happiness is a practice. She suggested small daily challenges for 90 days, like trying a new recipe or taking on a different route to work. Lesley Logan 21:39  Yeah, that's uncomfortable when you don't know if it's going to work or not, if it's going to make you late. I think these are.Brad Crowell 21:43  Yeah, it's simple and it's small. Lesley Logan 21:44  You want to know what your daily discomfort challenge is. You got to tag the Be It Pod. You got to send it to us. I want to know. Brad Crowell 21:50  Yeah, and what about you? Lesley Logan 21:51  She said, get to know you, which I think is very bold, because I think it requires us to, like, take some time to just get to know ourselves. Know how you can do that? Get uncomfortable. You'll start to learn a lot about yourself, and then you can see how you can calm yourself down, where you're feeling things. But another way you can do it is, she talked about, like, having a three minute meditation practice where you are literally sitting still quietly, and when you do just three minutes, you start to, like, learn a lot about yourself, because like, thoughts come in. Meditation is not about like, I have no thoughts. You're actually noticing the thoughts that you have, and that's going to help you get to know yourself. So I think that that is a really cool thing to do. If you're like, well, how do you like your eggs? Do you like a window seat or aisle seat? Know, the things you like? Because then you can advocate for yourself, and you can also have better experiences that are also uncomfortable, but just you can just enjoy yourself more. I just thought, what an interesting conversation, because when I said she was a, so she was a happiness strategist, I was like, okay, let's do this because, like, episode three was a happiness strategist, right? Or a happiness expert, but this was nothing like I expected. I learned so much about how to have a joy-filled life without it being like I have a joy-filled life. Here's my halo. Brad Crowell 22:59  Here's how joyful I am. Lesley Logan 23:00  Oh, why? Nothing bothers me. No, she lives a really awesome life. It's and, like. Brad Crowell 23:05  She challenges herself a lot. You know, she talked about being a musician, and she said you could put together a set list to go out and play, where you know the songs, and it's going to be a solid set list, she said, or you can put that song in there that's going to make you stretch for the high note, and then you can go out on stage and you can rock it. Lesley Logan 23:24  Yeah. And I just think often we think happiness means having no unhappiness. But after listening to her, it's actually just having a happy life is actually really just noticing what is going on in your life, and where do you feel it, and then also, how are you giving joy to others? So go tell someone they have a beautiful smile. Go get uncomfortable. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 23:52  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 23:54  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Aujourd'hui, nous avons le plaisir d'accueillir Agnès Verdier-Molinié, directrice de la Fondation IFRAP, un think tank spécialisé dans l'analyse des politiques et des finances publiques. Elle est l'une des voix les plus influentes du débat économique en France, régulièrement sollicitée par les médias pour son expertise sur la gestion du budget de l'État, la fiscalité et les réformes nécessaires pour assurer la soutenabilité de notre modèle économique.Dans ce Finary Talk, nous allons décrypter la situation budgétaire de la France en 2025, ensuite nous verrons quelles leçons tirer de nos voisins européens. Enfin, nous mettrons à l'épreuve son plan d'économie : est-il réaliste ? Sera-t-il suffisant ? Réponse dans l'épisode !Talk tourné le 5 mars 2025.

 What if happiness wasn't something you had to chase but something you could create daily? In this transformative episode, happiness strategist Monique Rhodes shares how to train your mind to find joy regardless of external circumstances. She and Lesley Logan discuss the power of gratitude, overcoming toxic positivity, and breaking free from the mental habits that keep us stuck in stress and negativity. Monique also dives into her personal journey—from struggling with depression to mastering happiness—and how you can build emotional resilience and confidence in small, daily ways. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How Monique went from struggling with depression to becoming a happiness expert.The difference between true happiness and toxic positivity.Why gratitude can rewire your brain and shift your emotions instantly.The 90-second rule to process emotions without getting stuck.The power of daily courage challenges to break out of your comfort zone.How social connection and community are essential for mental well-being.Episode References/Links:Monique Rhodes Website - https://moniquerhodes.comMonique Rhodes Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/monique.rhodesMonique Rhodes Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/moniquerhodesofficialGuest Bio:Monique Rhodes is a happiness strategist whose programs on mental resilience, mindfulness, and well-being are featured in colleges and universities around the globe. She hosts the popular podcast In Your Right Mind, sharing insights on how to rewire mental habits for a more purposeful and fulfilling life. After overcoming significant adversity in her youth, Monique traveled extensively to master practical methods that reduce stress and deepen self-awareness. Today, she teaches thousands of individuals—from corporate teams to online communities—proven strategies for achieving lasting happiness, leading immersive retreats in Costa Rica, and infusing her global experiences and creativity into every aspect of her work. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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So I don't actually need anybody else to bump me up or keep me going or help me. Within myself I'm able to. Don't get me wrong, I've got amazing friends, and I love them, and there are times I need to discuss things, but day to day, I've got it all here because I'm my cheerleader.Lesley Logan 0:26  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:08  All right, babes, get ready. Just sit back and just really, just, this is something I want you just to, like, try not to be trying to do 17 things at once. For this one, I want you to enjoy every word out of our guest's mouth. I am obsessed with her already. I'm gonna figure out how I can stalk her and make her a friend of my life. She is a happiness strategist, and if you think you know what that is, I promise you that you don't. And if you think you know what she's gonna say, I promise you that you don't. This is a great conversation. You're gonna wanna listen to it multiple times. So here is Monique Rhodes. Lesley Logan 1:36  All right, Be It babe, this is going to be a fabulous conversation. I can tell you that, because I've spoken to this amazing guest before, and it was hard to keep it contained to 15 minutes. So I'm excited that we have a longer format for conversation today. Monique Rhodes, you know what, you had me at Happiness Strategist, so can you just tell everyone who you are and how you rock at that? Monique Rhodes 1:54  I love that. Lesley, I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for having our second date together. So basically, I specialize in teaching people how to master their happiness. And I've done this over the past, really, three decades, and it's all from personal experience. So everything that I teach is what I've done to turn my own life around. So I love it. I love helping people. One of my programs is in so many colleges and universities around the world. I work with a lot of corporations, and I teach thousands of people all over the world. So I love it, and I love being here to talk to you about exactly what you do so well, which is get people excited about their lives. Lesley Logan 1:59  Thank you so much. I mean, here's why I'm so attracted to this, because I think today's world, it's really hard to be happy in, as soon as you open up your phone, there are text messages from somebody who's trying to make sure you know that someone's having a crappy day somewhere. There's demands from all around us all of the time. And so sometimes I do wonder, is it even possible to be actually happy? If you are happy, do you feel guilty all the time because other people aren't happy? Like I have so many questions.Monique Rhodes 3:06  I love it. Look, it's a really interesting point. So your point is that everywhere we go, we've got all these things that are showing us, there's loads of reason to be miserable, and that's the way that the mind works. So the mind automatically latches onto the negativity. But I really believe that you can create a little bubble of influence. It's just your bubble. We hear about the circle of influence, but literally, live in your bubble of influence. You can't do anything about what is happening in the politics in the world. You can't do anything about the natural disasters that are happening around the world, but I tell you what you can do. You can walk down the street and you can see someone that you've never met and smile and say hi to them, or go to the cashier at the supermarket and say, wow, you look so beautiful today. Well, how's your day going? There are so many small ways that we can influence our lives that we don't even think about. We can sit every day and say to ourselves, what am I grateful for? I mean, I can sit here right in this moment and just say to myself, What am I grateful? I'm grateful that next to me there's a glass of water, because there are so many people in the world that don't even have access to fresh water. I'm so grateful that you and I get to meet here, and we get to have this conversation. Because of the advent of the Internet, we have the ability to meet this way. I'm so grateful that I woke up this morning and I'm not in a war zone, because so many people in the world are so when we start to think about it, when we start to look at it and see being alive is one of the most unbelievable miracles, and what we do is we get ourselves caught in this kind of they call it hedonic adaptation, where we actually miss it. We've got so much stuff that we have that brings us comfort and happiness that we don't even see it anymore. And so what our brain latches onto is the novelty. And the novelty is often the negative. Oh, that person's going through this or this is happening. Oh my God. Look at the news. Oh my God. So getting ourselves into a place where we see that the novelty is actually all around us all the time is a really powerful way to lift down happiness levels. Lesley Logan 5:24  Oh my gosh. Okay, so many little takeaways there. First of all, anytime someone reminds me about being grateful, I am reminded that judgment and gratitude can't live in the same space, and so it's just starting to be grateful. And I love that you brought up like I'm grateful for this water, like I'm grateful if I have windows right now, in this moment, it is raining, and I love sunshine, but I'm so grateful that it's raining, because I live in the desert and we haven't had rain in 225 days. You know, finding because it's so easy to go, oh no, it's raining. I can't take the dog like you can always find those. So I find that that gratitude just starts to uplift. But I do love how you talked about the bubble of influence, because I think you're correct. Like, we start to go, oh my gosh, all this bad stuff is happening, and I can't do anything. And how is this affecting me? And how you start to do that? But my mom is one of those people who, when we go out, she finds a way to compliment strangers, every stranger walking past them at a hotel. She's oh, my gosh, I love those pants on you. And I'm like, I was in the middle of a conversation. And she just does that and so naturally. But I think because so few people do that, how they can touch someone's life in a way that they feel so seen, and we don't know who they are and how that could affect the rest of the world if we each hit our bubble, I imagine that there's a domino effect, that it gets bigger and bigger together.Monique Rhodes 6:36  You know, when I was a kid, my best friend's mother was very, very beautiful. She was a model when she was younger, and whenever you walked in the door at her house, she would look at you, and she would say to you, darling, you look absolutely gorgeous. And I remember as a kid that didn't come from a very good background, I would just melt into that. And sometimes I would show up, literally, looking as though I just rolled out of bed, but I knew that deep inside of her, she saw me, or I believed that she saw me. It was such an incredible gift that she gave, and it's something that I really focus on is giving that gift back, because we know when someone says it, I ran into a woman the other day. I haven't seen for a year. I only met her briefly once, and she saw me and she said, You look fantastic. And I walked away and went, ah, look at that. I mean, how good does that feel? There was no payback in her for saying it. She just said it, and how beautiful it is when we're on the receiving end of it. So whatever it is that we want in our life, we have to give it. If we want more love in our life, we have to give it. If we want the joy and the beauty of life, we have to show each other what it is that's how we lift our happiness levels. Don't wait for everybody else to make the world better. You know, there's stuff going on. There will always be stuff going on in the world until the day we die. But it's not about what's happening. It's about how we're responding to it. And we can always see the light. We always can see the light. And Lesley, I'm not saying that we bypass stuff in the last few months. You know, two of my friends have died, and it's not like, oh, I go, whoa my friends have died, and I'm still really happy. I am still really well, and I grieve and I feel it, but I don't let it control me. I allow the grief or I allow the difficulties and the challenges to be there. But my resilience is really strong because I also, alongside it, allow myself, even when there are difficult things happening, to see the beauty of my life and the world at the same time.Lesley Logan 8:55  You know, I'm so glad you brought that up, and I want to get more into happiness with you. But what I fear people take away is that toxic positivity? I'm sure you've heard of it. I lived in LA for 15 years, and living four hours away and watching the city of my memories burn, you know? And there are people who are like, ready to go, but now they'll get to rebuild back better and all this stuff. It's like, yes, is it too? What is the difference between happiness and seeing what is possible and toxic positivity?Monique Rhodes 9:22  Well, I think there's something really interesting that it's absolutely vital that we understand, is that whatever emotions you suppress means that you're suppressing emotions across the spectrum. So if I'm someone who says, whoa, I'm just positive all the time, and I don't look at the negative stuff. You actually don't really feel good all the time. So it's really important for us to understand if we want to experience joy and happiness and wellness, we have to be comfortable with experiencing discomfort. I mean, that's it. Otherwise we're just bypassing the whole thing. So I'm a really big teacher of take all your emotions and experience them and feel them. You don't have to act out on them. If you feel angry, sit with the anger. But where is it in my body? So this is the key, Lesley, is that to not run with the story. If I'm angry, to sit and go, wow, this is really interesting. I'm going to look at my anger and to shut down that story that says because he did this, and da, da, da, da, to sit there and go, oh, this is anger in my body, and it's making my shoulders tight and it's making my stomach feel a little sick and it feels warm in my body, and I'm just going to sit and observe it that is allowing the emotion. I don't know if you've ever watched the very famous TED Talk by Jill Bolte Taylor called My Stroke of Insight. It's really phenomenal. So Jill Bolte Taylor was a neuroscientist, and she had a stroke, and she watched herself have the stroke. It's really extraordinary, really worth watching. But one of the things that she discovered was that an emotion has a 90-second shelf life. Any emotion has a 90-second shelf life. So this becomes really interesting, because what we can then understand is if I do feel anger, and I have anger come up and rise up, and there it is. If I'm able just to sit with it for 90 seconds and allow it and observe it and let the story go in 90 seconds, it's going to be over. What is the only thing that keeps it going is this. I'll give you an example. I'm driving to work, and some idiot in their Range Rover cuts me off, right? And all of a sudden I feel this rage because I've got a fright, and I'm like, oh my God, that idiot in his Range Rover. And then I'm driving along, and I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it. Then I get to work, and I walk in the door and I say, you'll never believe what happened. And all of that fear and anger is boiling up again in my body because my mind doesn't know the difference between the experience it's remembering and the experience it had. So those emotions are still exactly the same. And then my partner calls me, and I say to him, oh my God, you would not believe what happened, right? Instead, I could have the experience. Allow it to happen for 90 seconds. Feel the anger, feel the fear, calm myself down. Let it go. Let it go.Lesley Logan 12:38  Oh, what a different day you'd have. Your work day would start off in a different space. I'm loving this. I can see my husband and I just setting a timer for each other, like, oh, okay, here's 90 seconds are on the clock. I'll come back.Monique Rhodes 12:55  You're at 93 seconds. Shut it down. It's really interesting, because when you do this, Lesley, what you start to understand is that you go through your day so often feeding negativity, and you start telling stories. Oh, you wouldn't believe what happened to this person and all of that. So if we can actually learn to shut up and just be very mindful about our conversations and say, Well, I can have those conversations if they're constructively looking at how I can solve a challenge. But so much of our conversation is around this happened, and you wouldn't believe it, and that happened, and our brain is creating imagery inside itself and reliving these experiences. We literally create so much of our stress and anxiety for ourselves. It's not even happening out there. It's happening in here.Lesley Logan 13:53  And also the person who cut you off doesn't even remember doing it. They've moved on.Monique Rhodes 13:59  No, it's interesting. I have a really good strategy that I use, which is this, when something happens that I have a relatively strong emotional reaction to, I ask myself the question of sixes. I can't remember where I first heard this. It might have been Brené Brown that first spoke about it, but I say to myself, will this matter in six minutes, in six hours, in six days, in six weeks, in six months? If it's six months or more, I say to myself, I need to pay attention. If it's less than six months, I literally say to myself, let it go, if there's nothing that I can practically do to work with it, if it's nothing that needs to be solved, or maybe I've done something that was wrong and I need to look at that, that's fine. Then I go away, I take responsibility, whatever it is, and I do the work on myself and otherwise it is a let it go. Do not waste your energy on it.Lesley Logan 15:05  Mind blown. And I love this so much because so as a recovering perfectionist, I'm someone who like, some days when I make a mistake, I can let it go, and some days I almost keep playing it in my head over and over because I'm upset at myself for the mistake that I made, or not seeing that that could have happened or been taken a certain way. And so I replay it, and I replay and then I get angry about their responses, and I get angry that I'm angry, and I do the whole thing, but I can imagine if I had just run through like, is it gonna matter in six minutes? Matter in six days, six weeks, six months? I bet I probably would've get to most of it not mattering at six months, I bet you it wouldn't, and so then I would probably not have to suffer. I could probably enjoy the yoga class I was taking while I was running through all that in my head.Monique Rhodes 15:52  But I might even have an added bonus for you, Lesley, is that your perfectionism served a purpose. You learned when you were a child that if you were perfect, you received love for it. And so that is where this behavior comes from. I keep doing this because I learned as a child that if I was perfect, I had to be perfect to be loved. I call it the Love Contract. And so one of the most powerful things you can do in those moments is not only say, does this matter? No, it doesn't. I'm enough as I am, and to love yourself in that moment, in your imperfection, and to know that your being perfect is not a direct line to being loved. Does that makes sense? Lesley Logan 16:42  It makes so much sense. And I feel like every listener who is a perfectionist recovering, we attract a lot of them here is like, kind of mind blown, because I do think that their perfectionism is what's keeping them from being happy. I'm sure you have plenty to say on that. And I think that in their desire to not be a perfectionist, I don't think that they're approaching it, because I know I'm not with just saying I am, I'm worthy of love like I'm enough right now, I don't think that's how we're approaching it. I think people who are trying not to be perfect are judging how much they let their perfectionism get them for the day. So I feel that that is such a good takeaway to, one, appreciate what you did as a child, because it was a survival thing to feel loved. And we all need to feel loved, to grow and get to where we are, and then to not judge ourselves for that, but instead welcome and have gratitude for who we are today and that we are enough in the moment that we are. I think what a great action step people can take that changes the emotions in their body. Monique Rhodes 17:37  Yeah, and to know that everyone does it. So every single one of us has learned one powerful strategy to get loved, and it could be I'm going to really excel at school, or I'm going to take care of people. You know, there's so many ways that this particular thing plays out, so that every single one of us, not just perfectionists, all of us, have something that we learn as a child will elicit love for us, and it's a really powerful thing. And then to look at that and go, does this still work? Actually, being a perfectionist is causing me all sorts of problems. I want to do really well in my life, but I've got to understand it's not that I need to be perfect, it's that I need to be loved, and we all need to be loved. So then we've got to go to the root of the tree and see how can I be loved without relying on being perfect to get it? Lesley Logan 18:31  Oh, everyone, write that in your journal. That's the next thing. Okay, I feel like I got so excited about all the things you have to say. I'm just like, obsessed with how much you know on this. But how did you get here? Like, how did you get to be, you know, the expert in this area, what was the journey? Monique Rhodes 18:46  Yeah, well, one of the beautiful and painful things about this journey of it was mine, Lesley. So I grew up, I was adopted at 10 days old, and I grew up in a very, very difficult situation in my family life. There were lots of really, really bad things that happened. And when I was 19, I ended up in a hospital having tried to take my own life. And I remember sitting there and saying to myself, this is going to go one way or the other. Either I have to give up or I have to do everything to heal myself. But I didn't really know what healing myself meant, because I saw, it appeared that everybody else was really happy, and I seemed to be the one who was broken and struggling. So I made a deal with myself that I was going to do everything that I could to try and heal this and myself. So went on a mission, and a little bit like an Olympian would, I did everything I did every therapy under the sun. I tried every technique. I traveled all over the world, really looking and seeing myself, but trying all sorts of methodologies to see what I could find. And probably the most powerful thing that I learned that encompassed a lot of what I teach is that happiness is not outside of me. Of course, there's lots of wonderful things. You know, I'm sitting here looking out at the ocean. I live here in Costa Rica in the jungle, and it's awesome. But actually, what is happening in my mind is the dictator of whether I'm happy or whether I'm suffering. And that was such a light bulb moment for me. And so then the focus came on, okay, so if it is about my mind, then what can I do to train and tame and optimize my mind so that I can live a really happy life? And the end result is that sometimes I think I'm annoyingly happy, you know, and it's like, I can't actually believe that this kind of happiness that I experience is possible, but it is, and now I have the incredible honor of teaching other people how to do exactly the same thing. Because for me, there was no path. There was no one saying, you do this, this and this. And so for me now I'm able to create that path for other people so that they can change their lives as well. And that makes me even happier, you know, because that's one of the things about happiness, is when you're in service to others, you know, taking care of other people to some degree, not at the expense of yourself, but to some degree, is one of the things that adds to your happiness. So I don't know, I just have this really amazing, amazing life.Lesley Logan 21:24  Wow. I think so many people could look back at part of your story and then feel sorry, but also how much of that took for you to be where you are and to share that with all of us. You know what I mean? If you didn't have that hard of a life and you didn't have that experience, would you have had the drive to figure that out, you know?Monique Rhodes 21:42  And I would just be teaching a theory, I would just be saying, well, you can do this, whereas I can tell you with 100% certainty, because I've seen it with so many of my students, that what I did with myself is something that can be replicated. And so when you go from being in a hospital at 19 in absolute despair, to waking up every day excited about the day, feeling like, oh my God. Does it get better than this? I know that those two states are possible by working with my mind. That's it. Lesley Logan 22:18  I'm really obsessed with this because I find, like most of my day, I do things that make me feel good, the way I wake up in the morning. I'm really, I'm so intentional about my morning routines, I might drive people crazy when I travel, because I'm like, no, you can't walk with me. I have to go for my walk. I need the sunshine. I need to do these things. But I know that, like, those things that I do are actually helping me get into my mind, find the happiness, get present. I have ADHD, and also an Aquarian, so I'm just like, air sign in my head. So I like, need all this, and so I'm obsessed with the different things that you've talked about, because there's so many of these things we can do that are free. And out of all the people that I've interviewed, at some point, you're like, paying for something. And obviously you probably have amazing tools we could all buy, but also giving a compliment to someone doesn't cost you anything.Monique Rhodes 23:04  And also, that means that happiness is available to everybody. It's not something that is only available to people with loads of money, but the media teaches us that it is because it's always trying to get us to buy something. So the truth is, is that there is no difference between me and a beggar in the slums of India, where I've spent a lot of time. There's no difference. You know, I remember the first time I really started to realize that the story wasn't as simple as I thought was the first time that I went to Thailand. It was my first time in a third world country, and I remember going through these canals in Bangkok, and I remember seeing a guy, and he had four bamboo posts and a tarpaulin over the top. And I remember him sitting there with this big smile on his face, and he had a little bag of belongings beside him. I remember thinking, I think that's the happiest guy I've ever seen in my life. And I didn't get it. I was young, you know? I didn't get it because everything I'd been led to believe was money, success, fame, power, that's where happiness lay. But what we actually see is that so many of the people that have fame, success, money and power, are freaking miserable. They're some of the most miserable people. And yet, I've spent a lot of time in India. So I traveled through India for four years on a motorcycle as part of my journey by myself.Lesley Logan 24:30  That is so cool. Monique Rhodes 24:31  Right? And one of the things that I found was that, my God, the Indian people, some of the poorest people, so generous, so loving, so kind, would literally give you the shirt off their back, so much happier than the people in the West. I remember when I went to India, and the first time I came back and someone said to me, I don't think I could go to India. And I was like, why is that? And they said, because I couldn't handle the poverty. I said, you know, what I realized from living in India for so long is that the mental poverty of the West is way more painful than the physical poverty of places like India. We live with so much comfort, particularly in the United States, completely comfort-obsessed and the levels of stress, anxiety and depression are through the roof.Lesley Logan 25:24  Yeah. I mean, we go to Cambodia, we have a helm there, and I am always amazed by the smile on the faces of people who sleep on the floor, and the generosity, because they so want to show you their life, and the generosity of them feeding you with the food that they really can't afford to have, but also it would take away from their joy and their happiness to not do that. So it's very interesting thing, and it makes you go, I'm judging them, but they're actually happy. They're actually happy. And I'm the one who's so concerned and so worried about all these different things, and that's from the Western mentality of growing up. And I'm a Pilates instructor as well. And the amount of people that cannot handle discomfort in their body, they're like, oh, that really hurts my ankles. And I'm like, pain, like, we're gonna break them, or just uncomfortable. And it's most of the time it is just uncomfortable. And I'm like, so this is a workout, and we have to be uncomfortable to change the body, otherwise, you stay the way you were and you came here for something different. So, you know, I think it's really interesting how many of us cannot handle discomfort in so many different ways, not just in the way we travel, but the way we move our body, the way we want our day to go. We don't like when anything gets out of the way, because then it's going to affect things. But also, even if everything went perfectly. They're not happy anyways.Monique Rhodes 26:41  Think about the culture of the United States as an example. Right? Whenever I go to the States now I think about it. You have very comfortable cars. You have very comfortable wide roads. You have the comfort of going to all these shopping malls everywhere. You have the comfort of being able to order anything up to your house if you can't even be bothered walking out the door. You know the thing is, is that when you live in a third world country, like I live in Costa Rica, which is like a poorer country, and it's so beautiful, the other day, I was down at the beach and I got a flat tire, and I needed to go home and get something to change the tire. Because I do want you to know that I can change my own tire, even though I've got a big truck, because I live somewhere where you need four wheel drive. Anyway, I needed to go home, and I didn't have my phone with me because I was at the beach, and there was just this guy at the beach, and he had a little stand, and he just packed his stand up, got me in the car and drove me home. And I was like, I loved it. I loved it. Like it really put him out, and it was for no reason but the kindness. And what happens is that when we live in a world that doesn't have all of the comforts, people rely on each other more. When you get into a first world country, people are relying on each other less. They wake up in the morning in their little bubble, and then they get into their little bubble, and they drive to their little bubble, and they do their work in their little bubble, and then they go home and they watch TV for the rest of the day, you know? And it's like, actually, what we need is connection. We need community. We need belonging. We need to be with each other and interact with each other and get off our phones and actually see people, because that is what brings the nervous system down. That's what makes us well. So we kind of look at the West as this ideological state of, wow, look at all the stuff we've got, but all of it actually is taking away so much from the things that actually make us happy. Lesley Logan 28:41  It is, oh my gosh, it really is. As we're recording this, in two days, I get to go to Cambodia, and I'm so excited because I just needed to be too hot, too humid, and I need, I need to be freaked out a little bit about making a left hand turn into oncoming traffic, like I need. There's something about getting out of all the comfort that we have here to remind ourselves, what do I truly need anyways? And what I love about it is because there is so much less distraction. It's every sunrise and every sunset is beautiful. Every rooster that wakes you up is the coolest thing. The wedding that goes until three in the morning, you're like, who's getting married right now? Because you don't have these other distractions. There's something you can see the beauty in all of these things. And so I do think it's a challenge, though, because so many people are afraid of letting go of their comfort. I guess I'm wondering, do you have like, baby steps for getting uncomfortable?Monique Rhodes 29:36  I want to point out that the Pilates lady is more than likely uncomfortable in lots of ways. So she will avoid discomfort all over the place. She will not tell her husband that she's unhappy in her marriage. She will let her kid rule her rather than tell her kid off. There'll be a series of things that she does. It's really important we can handle discomfort. So one of the first things that I'm going to encourage people to do is to travel. Traveling is incredible, and I have traveled all over the world. And I'm going to say this just I'm going to tell you this truth for fun, I've slept in the slums in India, and I have spent weeks in a castle in Switzerland, and the truth is, is that it's all the same at the end of the day. There's nothing about the castle in Switzerland that was any better than the slums in India. So get yourself into places where you go somewhere like maybe go to Mexico or something. Don't stay at a fancy resort, stay at a little guest house. That's what I did through India for four years. I just stayed at little guest house like I literally lived on about $500 a month. That's what I lived on. Ate simply, lived simply because. Why? Because it made me strong. Made me stronger. If I can handle physical discomfort, I can handle emotional discomfort. So that's the first thing is to start to look and see maybe I can travel differently, or maybe I can think about, what are all the things that I have in my house that create comfort? What if tonight I sit on the floor, or what if tonight I give up something? You know, that's a really powerful thing, is to say to yourself, What could I give up for a week? Maybe I'm going to give up the dishwasher for a week, which, to me, is funny, because I don't have a dishwasher here. Maybe I could give up TV for a week. Maybe I could give up driving for a week. I don't know, choose something that's manageable, and give it up for a week, and then you start to appreciate it, because all of a sudden you don't have it. And that's a really powerful way so that when it comes back, you all of a sudden, are like, wow, I have this whole new appreciation for this thing, and to really make that correlation between discomfort and the ability to handle it equals strength. So you might even have a little journal for yourself where you say, every single day, I'm going to do something that makes me uncomfortable. I'm going to make that phone call that I don't want to make. I'm going to compliment someone in the street. Whatever it is, it's a muscle. It's literally, the muscle is courage and if you can build that muscle of courage, then you can handle any discomfort. You can literally put me anywhere with anybody, and I can handle it. And I know it from so many years of traveling solo around the world, but that wasn't just oh, it's just because it's who I am. It's because I've built the muscle of courage, and I consistently look for ways that I can flex it. If there's something that I'm afraid of, then I'll go, oh, here we go. Okay, I live in a country that has a lot of spiders, and I don't like spiders. I can actually handle a tarantula in my kitchen these days. I mean, how amazing is that? I don't even know how to, I don't know how to do that because it's just courage to tell a different story. It's all it is. That's it, Lesley, it's just a story. What story do I tell? Do I say to myself, I'm going to break my ankles in the Pilates class or do I say to myself, I'm strengthening them? Do I see someone in the street and think to myself, I'm too scared to tell them how beautiful they are? Or do I think to myself, this isn't about me. This person is going to feel amazing when they hear this. So, so much is the stories that we tell ourselves. You get to choose the story you tell yourself, but always flex that muscle of courage like your life depends on it, because it may.Lesley Logan 33:54  I mean, I feel like courage is to be happy, and this life is courageous because it goes against the grain of what everyone is telling us, we should be we should be suffering, we should want for more, we, we don't have enough. And what I'm hearing you say, because I was really excited about this conversation, because I do wonder, like, can you truly be happy? And is happiness like being in the clouds? Like, do you know what I mean? Like, you have to ignore everything just to be happy. And what I'm loving from you is it's actually being in it all. In fact, go being the thing that makes you scared or makes you nervous or feels uncomfortable, and what can you become grateful for? Because that's where you're going to become happy. Monique Rhodes 34:35  And also, think about it, Lesley, whenever you do something that you were afraid of and you managed to do it. There are very few better feelings in the whole world than that. So what the other side of fear there is often a feeling of incredible, sometimes exhilaration, but deep joy and happiness in yourself, because you start to see what am I capable of, and we're always so much more capable than we ever give ourselves credit for, or that anybody ever told us we were. Whenever I'm with my friends' kids, because I don't have kids myself, my sole goal is to show them that they are way more beautiful, wonderful, intelligent and capable, then they may see themselves at the moment. My only job is their honorary auntie. That's it. Is to show them possibility. Who's going to show you possibility? Well, you can show yourself possibility. Well, okay, so how do I do that? Well, every day, because this is the key is that happiness is a habit, so you've got to do habitual stuff. So every day you sit down, you set yourself a little challenge. You say to yourself, Okay, for 90 days, I'm going to sit down every morning, and I'm going to challenge myself to one, one thing. For 90 days. I'm going to do a courage challenge for 90 days. Discomfort courage challenge, or I might call it a possibility challenge. Okay, well, I'd like to learn how to change a tire. I'm like, oh, I'm going to do it. Go onto YouTube. So easy, right? If you don't know how to do it I'll make you a video, because I love changing tires because that's what you learn as a young New Zealander growing up, your dad always teaches you, so you never get yourself in trouble how to change the tire, right, or it might be, oh, there's something on my computer that I don't know how to do. You know that I'm struggling with. Okay. So learn it. Learn it. Move yourself out of this discomfort. So I'm often giving my students 90 day challenges. That's what I love doing. Give them a challenge for 90 days and say, let's work at this. I'm working with one of my students now who literally is working with discomfort so she can build that muscle. She's a friggin CEO of a company, big company, but she shies away from a lot of that discomfort and kind of manages things. So now it's who am I if I step into it, does it matter if I can't do it? Because that's the fear, because she's super capable. What if I can't do it? If I can't do it, I bypass it, I shy away. So now we're stepping her into 90 days of things that she can't do, and she is just loving it, because there's a whole other element of herself that's coming out and is so powerful. Imagine for 90 days doing every day, doing one little thing, one little thing. Tonight, I'm going to make a new recipe for dinner, or today I'm going to go to a different Pilates class, or I'm going to go a different way to work just those little things that take you out of your habitual comfort ways all of a sudden, without even realizing it, your confidence starts to grow because you're moving yourself in directions that you didn't actually realize. You didn't realize you were caught in a little box. Lesley Logan 37:59  Yeah, it's a muscle we all need. It's often what's keeping people like, we call this, be it till you see it. It's the confidence. And I'm like, well, how are you gonna get confidence unless you do the thing you know, like you're born with confidence. I don't think so. I think you could have parents or people around you who remind you that you're doing things that are hard and amazing, that you're confident. But I find that the things that I do that are not things I was trying to do. I do them scared, and I know a few things about myself. I don't quit. I will figure out an answer, and if I don't like it at the other side of it, then I don't have to keep doing it. But right? But like, I'm gonna give it a go. I'm gonna give it the best shot. And then you get a confidence in the area, and it covers you into other areas you feel like you're not going to be confident, because you have evidence that you can do things that are hard, you can do things that are scary, you can do things that are uncomfortable. And that's part of the happiness. You know? Monique Rhodes 38:49  But there's a payoff to it. It's really interesting because before I started teaching this, I was a singer, and I toured all over the world. When you go out on stage, and I've been on stage where the, you know, there's been 10,000 people and just me and my guitar. You go out on the stage and you've got two choices, and it's a hard choice. One, I can do a really good, solid set. I can do a good, solid set where I know all the notes that I'm going to sing and it's going to be safe, and that's what life is like. You can go through your life and you can say, I'm going to do a really solid set with my life. It's not going to be amazing, it's going to be good, but I might feel a bit meh, it's going to be good. Or you can go out on that stage and you can say to yourself, I'm going to go for it. I am going to go for the phenomenal, for the extraordinary, which is what I chose. I said to myself, when I got out of that hospital, I said, I want an extraordinary life. That's what I wanted, and that is what I've had, and that is what I live and I have to be comfortable with falling flat on my face. I have to be and the truth is, is that the weird thing is, is that I so rarely do. That's the weird thing, is that it's the times that I fall down are so much less than I ever would have I would have thought it'd be 50-50, it's not. It's probably about 1% of the time that I've flat on my face. And I'm really comfortable with it. I'm really good with it. Because the payoff is, is that I'm hitting the high notes. I am hitting the high notes, and I'm having this life that is awesome and fascinating and interesting, and I thrive in it. And so we've got to understand that it's a choice. So we've got to get comfortable with discomfort so that we can go for the high notes. If we're not comfortable with discomfort, we're always going to shy away and go for the comfort.Lesley Logan 40:40  Oh yeah, Monique, I could talk to you for hours, but I've learned so much. I'm reminded of things that I've always wanted to do, or I used to do, and I feel like this is just such a solid, I feel like everyone's getting something from this. We're gonna take a brief break and find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you. Lesley Logan 40:56  All right, Monique Rhodes, where do you hang out? And we know you're in Costa Rica, but can people connect with you online? Can they work with you? Where's all the good stuff?Monique Rhodes 41:03  Yeah, absolutely. You can come to Costa Rica. I do retreats down here because I live the dream life Lesley, one of the most amazing retreat centers in the world, is five minutes from where I live. It's called Blue Spirit down here in Nosara in Costa Rica. So I host retreats here every year. But also the easiest way to come and find me is I have a website called I Intend To Be Happy, and that's the place that you can come and find me and start working with me. And I just love nothing more than helping people shift their happiness and really understand it. Listen, Lesley, if I can do it, anyone can, I'm no genius, I'm no superstar. I'm just a 19-year-old kid that wanted to change her life and managed to do it.Lesley Logan 41:47  Oh yeah, everyone, please go and you know, let me know how it goes. I'm also going to look at your retreats, because I've been itching to get to Costa Rica, and I feel like this is a sign. Okay, you've given us so much already, and so feel free to remind us what you've already told us, or any bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What you have for us?Monique Rhodes 42:06  I just think that it's really important to get to know you, to know that we live in a world that will consistently distract you from getting to know you. And one of the most powerful gifts that you can give yourself is to say, listen, there's a lot of noise out there. Let me, and you might have to do it gently, slowly but surely. Let me take time where I'm not running away from me. And I think that's one of the most powerful things, because the more you get to know you, and I know sometimes we think, by get to know me, I'll be afraid of me, but you won't be and to really just every day, take a little bit, take three minutes and just sit quietly or learn a meditation practice, just to get to know you. If you do that, it will change your life. I know myself so well. I have gone from being my own worst enemy, almost critic to being my own biggest cheerleader. So I don't actually need anybody else to bump me up or keep me going or help me like within myself, I'm able to, don't get me wrong, I've got amazing friends, and I love them, and there are times I need to discuss things, but day to day, I've got it all here because I'm my cheerleader. I'm the one that knows me best, and I'm the one that can help me along the path. And I think it's a really, really important thing for each of us to understand. Don't fall into all the distractions of the world. They're literally taking over your mind. Take your mind back. Take your power back. That's where it lies, right, right here.Lesley Logan 43:43  Obsessed with you. Love you already, and you don't even need my compliment, because you are already happy without that. Everything about this is fabulous. You guys. How are going to use these tips in your life? I want to know. Monique wants to know. Please share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Honestly, especially those friends you care about, who you sometimes feel like you're avoiding because they are a downer on your day. They probably need to hear this the most, and then you all can have a bubble of influence. I'm just, yes, thank you, Monique, for this and everyone, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 44:14  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Lowell Ivy is a long-time friend and fellow GPTS alum who pastored Reformation Presbyterian Church, an OPC church plant, in Virginia Beach, VA, for seven years until being called in 2024 to serve as the Executive Director of the PCA's Metanoia Prison Ministries. Lowell is uniquely suited for this role as the Lord wondrously converted him in prison while serving a 15-year prison sentence for armed robbery. He is a trophy of God's grace and a testament to    You can learn more about Metanoia Minsitires here, hear his sermons here and read some of his Table Talk articles here.  Thanks to Greenville Seminary for generously sponsoring the show. Brothers in ministry, GPTS invites you to their 2025 Summer Seminar: Contemporary Challenges in Pastoral Ministry. Carl Trueman and David Hall will join us on campus for a series of lectures on preaching, pastoral communication, pastoring and people, and the pastor's personal life. The seminar will be held August 5-7 in Greenville, SC. Learn more here. Special thanks to Nathan Clark George for our opening and closing instrumental. Nathan serves as the Pastor of Worship alongside Kevin DeYoung at Christ Covenant Church in Matthews, NC. You can access Nathan's fantastic catalog here.

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In this special episode of Christ the Center, we commemorate the 300th anniversary of the Reformed Church in the United States (RCUS) with special guests Dr. Maynard Koerner and Wayne Johnson. Dr. Koerner and Mr. Johnson take us on a historical journey through the origins, theological developments, and challenges that have shaped the RCUS over the past three centuries. From the church's humble beginnings in colonial Pennsylvania, through the Mercersburg controversy, to the influx of Volga German immigrants, we explore how the RCUS has maintained a steadfast commitment to confessional Reformed theology. We also discuss the upcoming tricentennial celebration in Rapid City, South Dakota, and reflect on the church's present and future, its global mission work, and its deep connections with other Reformed bodies, including the OPC and Westminster Seminary. Wayne Johnson is the Provost of City Seminary of Sacramento. He served as the editor of Leben Magazine from 2008–2018 and retired as CEO of Gateway Media in 2019. He has a BA in European History from Purdue University. Dr. Maynard Koerner is the President of Heidelberg Theological Seminary and Associate Pastor of Trinity RCUS in Sioux Falls. Chapters 00:07 Introduction 03:32 The Tricentennial Celebration 04:50 The Colonial Era 11:06 Ecclesiastical Ties and Ministerial Training 20:07 Organization in 1747 28:23 The Mercersburg Controversy 38:46 The Volga/Black Sea German Immigration 42:31 The 1934 Merger 52:25 The RCUS Today 1:02:16 Conclusion

Never have five persons had such a good time talking about the Trinity and how to promote the blessed doctrine in our churches. PCA ministers Sean Morris and Derrick Brite plus OPC minister and prolific author Harrison Perkins were our guests. Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3c4Ha4S5n4

Lesley Logan shares how setting boundaries and streamlining her time allows her to focus on what truly matters. After a year of planning, she's finally implementing a major shift in her workflow—proving that progress happens on your own timeline. She also highlights a listener's journey of refining systems that fit their unique needs and the power of small shifts that lead to big wins. Tune in for a reminder that celebrating each step forward fuels the path to balance and success.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why embracing boundaries can create more time for what matters most.Lesley's long-awaited shift to a new workflow and the power of follow-through.Listener's inspiring journey of refining systems and owning what works for them.How small, intentional changes can lead to greater balance and efficiency.Episode References/Links:Female Invest Instagram - https://beitpod.com/goodall If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? How's it going? Today is your Fuck Yeah Friday. It's the last one of March. Forgive me, on the start of March, I should have been like we're celebrating women, and I really did without even knowing that, because, you know, it's a women's month when it gets close, right? But like, I'm recording in January. And then we started this month celebrating a woman who people were tearing down based on her personal choices, and she had so many accolades. And then we honored two other amazing women. One was just a really great reminder to us all about courage and confidence, and the other was a beautiful child who is autistic, who wanted to have a celebration for her uniqueness. And today, I think is a great FYF to have with who's going to inspire us. Lesley Logan 1:31  This lady's, this is amazing. I almost like want a poster of this in my office, not even a lie. From Jane Goodall, and she said, "It actually doesn't take much to be considered a difficult woman. That's why there are so many of us." Right? Right? So I just thought that that was just a wonderful little thing that we could all just giggle about, because don't we like change how we do things, or change the pleasantries on things, just that we aren't considered difficult, right? We do this all the time. So anyways, thank you, Jane, thank you for that. Thank you for reminding us that it doesn't take much to be considered difficult, because that's why there's so many of us, right? So anyways, if that resonates with you, just remember, you're not difficult. You actually have very amazing, I think the opposite, the, if a male will be difficult, he'd be someone who knows what he wants, right? So I just think that you're not difficult, that you're someone who is clear on your boundaries and know what you want. That's amazing. So, thank you, thank you for that, Jane. Lesley Logan 2:27  Okay, your wins. This is where we're going. Your wins. So I'm going to read from Kelly Nyhan, and this is from the fall, and we got a lot of wins in here, so here we go. First win. I got through all of my emails. I love reading all the newsletters from LL, truly, and one, had my win listed, which is about updating my logo, and I'm feeling so proud. Yeah, that's why you send them in. We celebrate you, and then you get to see them, right? Number two, I'm a bit on the ADHD side, and I have such troubles getting focused and making a plan of where to put everything, notes, ideas, tasks. Anyways, I ordered a planner that I think could help me, and I'm 99% committed to reviewing it each morning and evening. I like digital first sessions and appointments, but I need a place to handwrite everything else. I also took time to visualize how and what. It's really the most debilitating thing for me. It was never a problem, and now after menopause, it's literally ridiculous. Three, finally woke up at my desired time of 5:30 am and did a brain dump of anything and everything. I got to get on paper somewhere and out of my head. I feel a little embarrassed to admit all of this, but happy that it's all in a safe place. I also evaluated my night rituals. Thanks, LL's newsletter, geez, these really helped me think about things. Thanks. And so true, I love getting up early, cheat the day, but for some time now hitting snooze. I think it's because I didn't have a morning routine that I was excited about and felt like it's too many tasks burning me. Well, now I have a handle on them, and today I got up with enthusiasm. Number four, I got a new person in my Mindful Mover Zoom class. It's very much an invite only. Basically, it's referral. So this is so great. And one of my students is coming with a friend for duet, starting November, weekly. And I'm thinking that in the spring, just because it's too cold for snow for the 70 plus age group to drive here, but in the spring, a small group of Pilates group circuit, where they really know the names the exercises thanks to eLevate. Last but not least, sent all of my remaining payment reminders for 2024. Yes, I'm getting a better system to send them before the second to the last and recruit day and requiring payment on a specific day, I take checks and sell only, so I still have to do it manually. It's fine for me for now. Kelly, there's so many great wins in here, and I just want to highlight a couple of them. You do not have to go I've been on the ADHD side. Having ADHD is a superpower. Knowing how you move and operate is actually superpower, right? So it's not the ADHD that's the superpower. It's like knowing how you learn, how you operate, how you do things. That's the superpower. So celebrate that. And also, I love that you're not being perfectionist about checking the thing 99% a way to go, way to be honest with yourself. I love that. I also love that you figured out how to wake up at your desired time. I think we overwhelm ourselves with all the things we have to do, and so then we just go, I don't want to do any of it. Well, you actually have to figure out a way positively to welcome in those things that you want to do. That's how habits are truly made. So congratulations. And I also am grateful that you know that there's little tidbits that you get from the newsletters, that's why you read them, because they help you, right? And what you don't need to do and what you are getting so much better, it's like overwhelming so with all of the things, so way to celebrate that, and I also just want to celebrate like, way to figure out a system for taking your payments and also owning that like, manual that works for you right now. If that's what works, that's what works, right? Just because there are technologies and systems and if this, then that things that are out there, it doesn't mean that it's easier for you to use them. For example, I love to write, so yes, there's chatGPT. There's even a bot on profitablepilates.com there is a bot that's trained of 10 million of my words from podcasts, from courses, coaching calls, seven years of coaching calls and Slack, 10 million of my words. I certainly could say to my own bot, write me a post about this, and I don't, because even though that would be, in quotes, easier, it takes away the joy that I get from doing it. And there's certain things, even doing something like sending payment reminders, there's something in that that's bringing you joy, and that's why you do it a different way, and that's okay. So thank you for letting us all learn from you and be on your journey with you. It's really beautiful. Lesley Logan 6:17  My win. Last April, I heard about a way that my assistant could take over my inbox. I think it was April or May. And I even have the book, and I have all the things, and I just hadn't taken the time to figure it out. We had so much other things going on, and while it would have saved me time to do that, it would have taken more time to do it. So I was just like, no, I'm going to read this book at the end of the year, beginning of the new year, and I will implement it in Q1. So, I can proudly say that here we are the end of Q1 and my assistant and I are implementing this where I am not in my inbox everyday, I actually get to go in there and just read the things that she needs me to respond to and it's not because I don't want to hear from you. First of all, none of you email me. You all DM me, or if you're a member, we talk in our community places. So it's not about putting a barrier up to other people. The reality is, is that an inbox it's like I'm giving away my feelings of the day and how my day will go to random people who are asking for different things that have nothing to do with each other, all at the same time. There's so many different things in an inbox that can take over the day, right? Whereas, if I have my assistant go through my inbox each day and either respond, delete, or put in a folder for me to respond to, it can be more on my timeline, a.k.a boundaries. So while, by the time this is placed, it's been more than a year that I've thought about doing this, that's not the point. The point is, and the win is that I gave myself a deadline, gave myself a timeline to do it, and got my team on board to do it, and now it's being implemented, and it will take some time. You know, it takes some time to build a new system. I'm not really good with details, so we'll see how this goes. But I really am excited to have more time to be creative and to be in my communities that I've built, because that's where I want to play. I want to play in my communities. I don't want to read an email from a random person who bought my email off a list, who's trying to sell me on why someone should be against my podcast. I want things filtered so I can look at those at the time that I want to look at those, so I can spend the time for the people that I do this for, which is you. So anyways, that is my win, implementing something I wanted to do around the time that I wanted to do it. Boom. We did it. Lesley Logan 8:38  All right. Here we go. Let's see, what are we taking away? What are we taking into this weekend? What's our poem, mantra, affirmation, thing to think about? My well-being hinges on being able to hold what hurts, love what's being neglected, and enthusiastically work with what I've got. Well, that's pretty cool. My well-being hinges on being able to hold what hurts, so not hold on, hold what hurts, love what's being neglected and enthusiastically work with what I've got. Here's to not waiting for everything to be perfect and working with what we got. You are amazing. I adore you. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 9:19  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 10:02  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 10:06  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 10:11  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 10:18  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 10:21  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Dr. Beckett reviews various hockey card boxes from Upper Deck including 2024-25 OPC, 2024-25 Upper Deck Series 2, 2024 Upper Deck Skybox Metal Universe Champions, Clear Cut, Allure, and EX 2000. Dr. Beckett offers his insights on the value, design, and features of these products, including serial numbered cards, inserts, autographs, and the market dynamics.   02:58 In-Depth Look at Upper Deck Series Two 05:00 Exploring Skybox Metal Universe Champions 06:13 Clear Cut: Premium Autograph Cards 08:43 Allure: Beautiful and Affordable 10:27 Skybox EX 2000: Nostalgic and Condition Sensitive    

Are your eating habits supporting the life you want to live? Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell break down key takeaways from Lisa Salisbury's interview, focusing on mindful eating, food habits, and breaking free from unconscious patterns. Learn how to assess your hunger, build a better relationship with food, and take control without guilt or restriction.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The emotional connection to food and why it matters.How childhood conditioning impacts your eating habits.How to break free from the Clean Your Plate Club mindset.The importance of avoiding extreme hunger or fullness.A simple two-bite challenge to help you check in with your hunger.Episode References/Links:eLevate Retreat - https://lesleylogan.co/elevateMullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukSpring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comLadder Barrel Exercises - https://beitpod.com/barrelexercisesLisa Salisbury Website - https://wellwithlisa.comInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/well_with_lisaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/wellwithlisaIf you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey Be a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Are you actually connecting to the food that you're eating, and do you know why you eat the way that you eat? I think these are really interesting questions to ask yourself, because if it is getting in the way from you having the life you want to live, or it's becoming a crutch of some kind, it's worth evaluating. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to discuss the liberating convo I had with Lisa Salisbury in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, you should listen to it at some point, because it's so good. Before, during after, go back and forth between the two. You do you, you. There's like different ways of doing everything. And this is episode 503. Brad Crowell 1:19  503 Lesley Logan 1:20  And we just said a big thank you before we hit record with you guys, to our amazing production team, because we've had the same producers this whole time. There's podcasts I listen to of people that I really admire, and every other year they're with another company. And I'm like, you know what? Why are you with so many different companies? What? Brad Crowell 1:38  That's weird. Lesley Logan 1:38  Now, if it's because I read that you scored $170 million you do you, no jealousy, no judgment, no curious. I see it, not announcing, if they're not paying you to be there, why are you switching? What's going on? Anyways, just go out of your minds. Today is March 27th 2025 and it is Scribble Day. Yep, Scribble Day is observed on March 27th annually, and it's all about celebrating the creativity and the art associated with scribbling, which anyone can do, regardless of their artistic abilities. So the last time you scribbled aimlessly to relieve boredom, you might have probably not known that there's actually a day to celebrate the stress releasing act of scribbling.Brad Crowell 2:18  Yes, our production team is gonna go, Brad, why did you adjust Lesley's microphone while she was talking? So that was me, my fault, and I don't think they're gonna be able to edit it out. Lesley Logan 2:27  No. And guess what? Brad Crowell 2:28  100% they won't. Lesley Logan 2:29  I just didn't want it, I didn't want to stop. I was I hadn't made a mistake, I hadn't made a mistake on any of the sentences. And I wanted to keep going. Brad Crowell 2:36  Well, you nailed it. You slayed that. Lesley Logan 2:37  Also, I really appreciate that they mentioned that, like, it's regardless of your artistic abilities, because, I often am disappointed in my, here's the thing, this is the recovering perfectionist in me who is letting it go that you put your hand in front of the camera to pick the mic. I don't think my scribbling is good. Brad Crowell 2:55  But it's a scribble, it's not supposed to be good. Lesley Logan 2:57  I know, but I want it to look pretty. There's people who are like. Brad Crowell 3:00  Is scribbling pretty? Lesley Logan 3:02  No, but people can draw like, really pretty hearts and stuff. My hearts are like, my star, I look, I just look like a seven year old still scribbles. Brad Crowell 3:10  Fortunately, there's a day for that. Lesley Logan 3:11  There's a day for it, and actually it, there's no, because it's just, it's relieving boredom, and I think it's great. So anyways, also, if you are bored in today's day and age, we want to hear you on the be it pod, because we need all your tips.Brad Crowell 3:26  No, I think it just means that they don't have a smartphone.Lesley Logan 3:30  Yeah, they don't have their friends, literally. Brad Crowell 3:33  They don't have the easiest-to-distract-yourself device in the history of our world. Lesley Logan 3:38  I know. You know what, on a podcast I listen to, they talk about, apparently, your phone can tell you how many times you pick up your phone. This one guy, he picked it up 273 times in a day. 273 times in a day. How many minutes are in a day?Brad Crowell 3:50  All right, so we're gonna figure this out literally right now. So we're gonna go right now. Okay, go to Settings. Go to screen time. So just search for screen time. If you all want to join us on this, if you have an iPhone, go to your settings and go to screen time you're gonna look at.Lesley Logan 4:05  Today, I've only had 67 pickups. Oh, I went. Brad Crowell 4:08  See all app and website activity? Okay. And then go to day.Lesley Logan 4:16  Yeah, pickups, yesterday, I only did 109.Brad Crowell 4:19  Oh, mine is 109 also. What the? Mine's today, though.Lesley Logan 4:24  Okay, but mine today, I've only had 67.Brad Crowell 4:26  Oh yeah, yesterday I did 136.Lesley Logan 4:28  Okay, so here's the deal. I think that's a lot. I don't know, but if there's 24 hours in a day, not that we only pick it up once in an hour, but kind of like, maybe we should try to get it under 100. Let's try. Next time we get to a topic that has to do with boredom, we'll let you know. We'll update you. Anyways.Brad Crowell 4:45  My screen time yesterday was almost 10 hours. Lesley Logan 4:49  Yeah, but we can't judge we were on a plane, you guys, playing video games for 15 hours. So I don't think that. Brad Crowell 4:54  That is true. Lesley Logan 4:55  But okay, anyways, just going back to the boredom thing. So figure it out, because I actually heard one host was like, I have 88 and he was surprised by 88 and to me, like 60, because we work on our phones, I don't think it should actually be nothing. Brad Crowell 5:08  It's a little hard when I'm like, on an hour long zoom call on my phone.Lesley Logan 5:12  Yeah, but maybe we could figure out a day off. Maybe we should find a day off average and then take our weekday average and try to get it just a little bit more than a day off average. Okay. Brad Crowell 5:22  We'll see. Lesley Logan 5:22  That has nothing to do with today's guest or Scribble Day. Hey, we're back from P.O.T. Denver and about to kick off our annual eLevate retreat. You guys, oh my God, it's like, literally, in three days. They're like, coming here soon. I'm so excited. We, I have so many prizes for them. We have a special guest for them. We have, I mean, I can't even wait. So anyways, I'm stoked to see them, we have 17 eLevate grads coming. If you want to come to an eLevate retreat, you have to be an eLevator. If you want to know how to be an eLevator, you need to go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. Okay, Brad's not happy with the mic still. I'm talking right at it. I don't know what else to do. Okay. Also, you guys coming up very soon, in April, we're going to be announcing our second Mullet Tour. It's that UK tour we did where we do business in the morning and Pilates in the evening.Brad Crowell 6:09  It's business in the front, Pilates in the back that's why it's the Mullet Tour. Lesley Logan 6:15  And we're doing two cities for this tour, and it's going to be this fall. So you want to go to opc.me/uk to be on the wait list, because those on the waitlist are going to get invited to the early bird. And you know what? It could sell out on early bird. So you want to go to opc.me/uk to get on the waitlist. So you get the early bird special. Brad Crowell 6:31  Spots are definitely gonna be limited, because we're, you know, we're doing it in some studio. Lesley Logan 6:36  It's when we do our (inaudible). It's like they're just small spaces, and we're only doing two days, I think one day in each city. I'm pretty sure it's of almost. Brad Crowell 6:43  Two days in each city, pretty sure. Lesley Logan 6:45  I don't know. I feel like it's a tight squeeze. Just get on the waitlist and you'll find out. If you're in Europe, you should come, just fly over. Brad Crowell 6:52  Go to opc.me/uk for anyone, anywhere. Coming up at the end of April, we've got our spring training. This is the first time we've ever done this before, and we're focusing on drum roll, please. The Pilates push up. Lesley Logan 7:08  The Pilates push up. So if you hate them, this is for you. If you love them, this is for you. We're gonna have 10 classes over the course of one week, all to help you get the most out of your push ups, either to make them more accessible or more possible, or help you realize, like, how freaking strong you already are. Don't worry if you don't have the equipment, we have a mat ticket as well. So go to opc.me/events, because that's going to get you on the waitlist. And those on the waitlist are going to be invited early, and those invited earlier are going to get a better price, than those who are not on the waitlist. So if you're an OPC member, you get the best price. It's called free.Brad Crowell 7:42  So if you want it for free, join OPC. If you want it for free, join OPC.Lesley Logan 7:48  Yeah, yeah, okay. But that's going to be in April, and it will end on International Pilates Day weekend, which we're very excited about. Brad Crowell 7:56  Yeah, go to opc.me/events and then, if you are a Pilates business owner and are taking clients in any way, shape or form, whether that's in the park or at your house, in a studio, and you're booking and taking payments from your clients. I want you to join me on the next upcoming Studio Growth Accelerator and what we're going to do is talk about the three massive secrets that Lesley and I have figured out after coaching more than 2500 businesses just like yours on all the things over the past, geez, seven plus years now, we've boiled it down to three major things that you need to understand in order to grow your income as a business owner, it's totally free. I want you to join me by going to prfit.biz/accelerator. That is profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. You'll find out when the next webinar is, and come join me. Finally.Lesley Logan 8:49  What we just, like, when we're recording this. We're literally 24 hours back from Cambodia, but we want to invite you to the next time we're going to Cambodia for our Pilates retreat. There we have classes, we have breath work workshops. We have workshops that will help you love your life and have a lot of fun. We go on Temple tours. We have the most amazing schedule, I'm just gonna say, literally during the retreat, multiple times, multiple people said, I just really love the schedule of this retreat. It's so nice. Brad Crowell 9:16  Yeah, the flow of the events. Lesley Logan 9:18  The flow of it. It is. Brad Crowell 9:19  If you've ever been on a retreat and they had events lined up from six in the morning till like midnight, and you just completely fried. And the things were good, but it was just too much. We don't do that. If you've been to other retreats where they're like, we're so happy that you're here, you've got an entire day to yourself. Yeah, we don't do that either. It's a great balance, right in the middle. Lesley Logan 9:39  Like the little, most perfect schedule. Brad Crowell 9:40  Y'all, we've done like, a dozen of these, so it's been a lot of making adjustments. And in fact, every single time we do a retreat, we evaluate it and we say, did we do it the way we liked it? How did it go? And we're at the point now, y'all where, literally, we have the timeline of events completely dialed in, and what we just did three days ago was we sat down with peach, who is part of our group over there, and she is part of the team that helps take care of us, and we said, hey, we want to rearrange the temple tour visits and see if we can't add in yet another temple in there. And we figured out a way to do it. So we're really excited. It's the temple that Lesley and I haven't even visited yet it's exciting, so. Lesley Logan 10:21  Yeah it's really, really cool. And so just we want you to come. And I have had so many people say the next one, the next one. I've told someone like you said the next one three times. I know we have so many things coming up, so I want you to know something's always going to come up. There's many fires all the time. So go to crowsnestretreats.com because we want you to come on this next one, which is in October. And I'm telling you, we had two people sign up very last minute. We had someone who signed up five months in advance, which I guess is not last minute. We had someone sign up two months in advance, so you can sign up. And we've also had people, most of them are people with children who've come on their own because they deserve a week where we fill their cup for them. So come to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot. All right, we have so much to talk about Lisa, but we have an audience question to answer? Brad Crowell 11:08  We do. Ashley Crosby from Instagram says, hi, Lesley, I'm back with another DIY question. Do you have any good recommendations on a DIY video to make a Ladder Barrel rung cover? I've been taught to use a blue knee pad to support our feet, but I have tiny feet and the pad makes me feel less secure. Do you have any suggestions? Lesley Logan 11:28  Yeah. So in this question afterwards, they sent me a bunch of other information about why this blue knee pad situation is happening. So first of all, if you are a Pilates person and you've used a Ladder Barrel before, this is what we're talking about. We're talking about in the ladder barrel there are rungs on the ladder, and you have to put your feet on these rungs. And a lot of people are taught to hook their feet on the rung. So if, like, you're watching on YouTube, it's like that hard flex, kind of like you do at the gym, to, like, stick your feet underneath a bar, to kind of hook in, to do sit ups, because your feet keep coming off the ground. That's kind of what we're talking about here. That being said, that's not actually how you're supposed to put your feet. You're supposed to. Brad Crowell 12:02  Oh for Pilates Ladder Barrel you don't, you're not supposed to hook your feet. Lesley Logan 12:05  No, you shouldn't hook your feet. Brad Crowell 12:07  Wait, sorry. So I don't, I don't even understand where this blue knee pad would go. It's supposed to go between your foot and the foot bars to hurt, to protect your foot? Lesley Logan 12:14  Yes, so your foot's not pulling up against like wood, so the pad's there.Brad Crowell 12:19  So you're not even supposed to hook your feet. So this entire purpose is this blue knee pad is irrelevant?Lesley Logan 12:23  Yes, but they're doing it because they think that hooking the foot is safe, and then people complained about the wood hurting their feet, so they're like, let's put a pad here. Brad Crowell 12:32  And then it's still unsafe. Lesley Logan 12:34  Well, and it's unsafe for this person, but also it's not helping you get the connections you need. So when you're doing short box on the Ladder Barrel, which is when this would happen, you're actually supposed to stand on the feet. So you want to put your feet on not the top top rung, but the second rung, or you can even go lower. This is in my flashcard. This is in all my tutorials free. Put the arch of your feet on there, like you're doing bird on a perch during footwork. And then you push, not so much that you're straightened, but kind of like if you were, like, doing a wall squat, you know how like you, like, are pushing into the floor, but you're stuck in a wall squat, you want to push in them so your butt turns on. And if you hook with your feet, it's really hard to get your butt to turn on, and then it's unfortunately, going to help turn on your hip flexors when you're coming up and down, versus keeping your butt on. So Ashley, here's the deal, if you have to do these things because it's rules of studio, pay attention to the rules. But if you have the ability to do it the way that it's meant to be done, then your tiny feet are not an issue, because this, that whatever part of your arch can go on the bar is what you need. It's all you need. Brad Crowell 13:41  It's all you need. Lesley Logan 13:42  And if you want to go to onlinepilatesclasses.com/ladderbarrelexercises. Brad Crowell 13:48  No, it's slash ladder dash barrel dash exercises. Lesley Logan 13:52  Correct. I was going to say with a hyphen in between all the words. Brad Crowell 13:55  Yeah. onlinepilatesclasses.com/ladder-barrel-exercisesLesley Logan 13:59  Yeah, you can see all of our exercise. You'll see how my foot setup is. And know you, so don't, you don't need.Brad Crowell 14:05  They're all the videos that you would need. They're all the DIY videos. Well, they're not DIY videos for making a Ladder Barrel rung cover, because you don't need a ladder barrel rung cover at all. Lesley Logan 14:14  Some people have created one that is made out of like a sheep's skin or sheep fur, whatever, because that's like, antibacterial, antimicrobial, anti whatever. At any rate, some people have made this, I find that they're quite slippery. And again, you don't need it. Why are we buying things we don't need when you can just use your muscles. So full permission to use your muscles. Brad is trying to look up different things, you guys, they're like, legit. So they're like, they're like. Brad Crowell 14:43  50 bucks for a little piece of cloth that wraps around your barrel.Lesley Logan 14:47  Yeah, yep, yep. Oh, you know what you could get? The cover that I use to do back squats, the cover that you use to do back squats, I bet would work. I bet it would fit, because it's Velcro. And that was, like, $12 or $25 online. So I guess if you are like Lesley, I'm adamant I have to hook my feet, you don't know what you're talking about, then you can do that. You could probably use a back squat rung cover. Anyways, there's just so many different changes that people have made to the practice, and it's not about classical versus contemporary. It's just like people changing exercises because someone complained about things. And it's like, maybe you're not doing it right, or you might not be ready for it yet, and that's a different story. So hopefully this saved you money on a pad you don't need. Send your questions in and we'll answer them. Brad Crowell 15:33  All right, stick around. We're going to be talking about Lisa Salisbury and her tips on food and how we treat food in our lives. Okay, welcome back now. Let's talk about Lisa Salisbury. Lisa is a certified Health, Life, and Weight Loss Coach, holds a BS in Health and Human Performance and is the host of the podcast Eat Well, Think Well, Live Well. Lisa is passionate about helping people build a healthier relationship with food and regaining control of their eating habits. Whether weight loss is the goal or not, she focuses on self awareness and creating sustainable strategies to foster a sense of balance and well being. Lesley Logan 16:10  Yeah, I thought that she was very fascinating. There's so many different ways that you can address this topic, and I just really appreciated her like enthusiasm and love and kindness and grace around it. And she said, food is connection. It always has been, even in our hunter-gatherer days, they ate together. For her, every meal should be enjoyable and delicious, not just thought of as fuel. And I kind of like this, because a lot of times the way to break your emotional connection to food is to go food is fuel. Food is fuel. And it's not your comfort food. But for her, she was like, no, no. I mean, it's fuel, but every meal should be delicious and it should be enjoyable. And something since we just got back from Cambodia that this makes me think about is we set the table for every meal, right? In Cambodia, we put placements out, and we put the silverware out, and we put napkins out, and every meal had colorful fruit and we had this beautiful ambiance. It's really interesting how on a retreat, every meal was kind of an event. And of course, the food was delicious, and we all ate together. And like, we sat there and we ate together, we talked. And like, we have an hour for food because we take a good half an hour because we're just all chit-chatting and like, talking about things and getting to know each other more. And no one's on their phones, because we're all eating a meal together, right? And so she emphasizes that value of family traditions to create meaningful meal time moments, meaningful meal time moments. Brad Crowell 17:32  The Triple M threat. Lesley Logan 17:34  Yeah, she sets a table properly, and you sit at the dining room table, and she believes that the act of eating together is more important than what we're eating. And I thought that's so cool, because we've had different guests on before who were like, do you ever just sit and eat your meal, or are you like on your phone while you're eating your meal? And one of the things that I think is causing people to overeat or be hungry all day long is that they're actually not eating the food that they're eating when they're eating it, they're kind of just doing other things, and they're not paying attention to it. But there's something about we slow we slow down, we chew our food. We like taste the food when we're having a meal with people, and it creates connection. And I think a lot of people are just missing connection these days. And I think you could do this, even if you're single. You can also, oh my God, for my single people here's what you can do, you can set a place for two, because the other place could be little you creating space for a partner, and you could be going through the act of taking the time to put a placement out for that, like, whatever you want to do, but like, you could do that, and then you could sit there, and you could enjoy the food, and you can have beautiful music playing, or maybe beautiful flowers to look at, and just actually enjoy your food.Brad Crowell 18:42  I think it's great. I mean, I love the intention as well. Of the two placemats, you know, you're setting it for the future person. That's really cool. I know you used to do that with coffee. Lesley Logan 18:50  For you. Brad Crowell 18:51  For me, yeah.Lesley Logan 18:52  I mean, you, it wasn't for you first. It was just for the person who's going to be here. But then you took the coffee so, you know, anyways, what did you love?Brad Crowell 19:01  Well, actually, I wanted to just comment. She said a couple things about how we were trained with food that I didn't see in my notes. So the idea that when we were kids, if we were causing chaos, maybe our parents were like, here, eat a fruit, roll up and shut up. Or, hey, you did a great job. For example, my parents, when we scored a goal in the soccer game, we went and bought Domino's Pizza. Lesley Logan 19:27  That's, yeah, that's what everyone does. That's the problem. Like, there's a reward for.Brad Crowell 19:32  That's the thing, is like for our parents what it was was we don't go out to eat. We will go out to eat when you score a goal. But what's also happening there is food is becoming the reward, even though that wasn't actually the intention. Yeah, the intention was, we're gonna splurge, and we'll splurge.Lesley Logan 19:51  And also that's the same thing, like, you have a bad day at school, and someone said something you're bullied to, and then the parents, let's go get ice cream, instead of feeling the feelings of what it's like to have been bullied at school.Brad Crowell 20:01  Yeah, or celebrating a moment such as square goal. But it made me wonder, this is the first time I ever thought about that. It made me wonder, has that affected my eating habits? I do think it is real, the Clean Your Plate Club situation that she talked about that blew my fucking mind. I was like, oh my God, this is crazy. I don't know why my parents said there are starving kids in Africa. I didn't know why, until that podcast, when she said we used to ship the food to Africa in the 80s. I was like, what, we did?Lesley Logan 20:30  Right. My parents are the same thing, and we did ship it. We didn't ship the food that was on your table, though, but it caused me to feel like I have to eat everything on the plate. And now, you don't, I mean, don't be wasteful. Brad Crowell 20:42  But the idea was, because we were intentionally shipping food around to share the food with the world, we should be eating all of ours. And, you know, it was just an interesting idea. It comes from the World War One and World War Two, the Clean Your Plate Club, and they literally rationed food in the United States, and so that was a thing. And it's funny. To me, it's like the leftover hoarding is like a big thing from the Great Depression, because people wanted for everything. They had nothing and so they. Lesley Logan 21:13  And you might need it, you would never get rid of it, because you might not be able to get it. Yeah, and I do think that some of these things have been passed down without us knowing why. And here's the deal, obviously, don't be wasteful with food, but also like, you know, you start to learn like, oh we don't need to make that much food.Brad Crowell 21:27  Oh, I've got to eat everything on my plate. Fascinating that this is like a generational, passed on, generational thing, and today the meaning of it is completely disconnected with the intention of it originally, and so now it's just clean your plate, because that's what you're supposed to do, you know. And so we get into this habit of eating that isn't necessarily healthy from either a mental or a physical perspective. Lesley Logan 21:51  It's not helpful whether it's healthy or not, because maybe you're, maybe you're. Brad Crowell 21:55  It could be healthy if you're doing small portion sizes, but because in the United States, portion sizes are so huge, it might not be normal.Lesley Logan 22:02  I know. I was thinking about our dinner in Singapore, and I was, we're like, oh, these is like Vegas prices for this meal. When the food came out, I was like, this is not a Vegas plate. So Vegas prices, but we got, like.Brad Crowell 22:13  Smaller portions.Lesley Logan 22:15  But it was also enough. It was also enough. So I think that that's really true. I just all of this is not to say, like, what's healthy, what's not healthy. It's like, are you actually connecting to the food that you're eating, and do you know why you eat the way that you eat? I think these are really interesting questions to ask yourself, because if it is getting in the way from you having the life you want to live, or it's becoming a crutch of some kind, it's worth evaluating.Brad Crowell 22:38  Yeah. I mean, the why, it's the why are you eating? And you know, she said it could be because you're bored or sad or frustrated or happy celebrating. She highlighted that for many it's not about weight loss, but it's about feeling like they're the ones making the decision, and not the food making the decision for them, I think we need to put that in context. It's about feeling like they're the ones making the decisions, so probably like I'm deciding to eat now, it's not that the food is making decisions for them, but it's just about control.Lesley Logan 23:08  The habits that we create for ourselves, there's no such thing as a good or bad habit. There's also no good or bad foods, right? There's just is how you are eating and how is it affecting your life, in the way that makes you available to do the things you want to do. And so if you are someone who, like, literally is craving sugar and it's distracting you from the things you want to do, so much that you actually are, like, going out and hunting for sugar, which is like an actual thing, because it's an actual food addiction, because your gut starts to crave sugar and tells you this, and you cannot stop thinking about it. And so then you can't actually write the email to the person want to pitch an idea to, because you're like, I just need to get that. Well, that's affecting your life negatively. And these kinks can be a distraction from what makes us have the energy to want to work out our gut literally tells us a lot, like, our gut microbiome tells us a lot, and what you eat trains your microbiome. So it's a whole other thing. I just thought it was really cool.Brad Crowell 24:00  Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about those, be it action items, and we're going to dig into the hunger scale, which is pretty cool. All right, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Lisa Salisbury, she mentioned she teaches the hunger scale to her clients, and it goes from negative 10 all the way to positive 10. And she said, negative 10 is like starving yourself. Positive 10 is gorging, where you're very, very full. Negative 10 very, very hungry all the way to very, very full. And she said they're equal distance from zero, which is neutral.Lesley Logan 24:37  Which I loved. I loved a neutral, instead of it being like a one to a 10 or a zero to a 10, five is the place to be. I love that. She was like, no, I'm gonna be make this as a neutral.Brad Crowell 24:48  Yeah. And she said negative 10 and plus 10 are equally uncomfortable. Right? Well, first off, the purpose of it is to build awareness of your hunger and your fullness level throughout the day, right? So she actually charts it. She tells her clients, especially if you've been measuring your macros and you're used to tracking all the stuff and weighing things and whatever. Instead of tracking all that stuff, track your fullness level. And here's how to do it, before each male pause to assess your hunger on this scale, she says, start eating when you're feeling like a negative three, right? When you're just mildly hungry, that's the nicest time to start eating. Stop eating when you're at a plus three, which she describes as you're not really feeling any pressure, you're not wishing you had stretchy pants. You're just comfortable. And she mentioned there's a moment when the body takes a pause, and it's this organic thing where you're like, you know, I'm starting to feel satiated, right? She said, avoid eating when you're overly hungry, negative seven or below, or if you're too full plus seven or above. And you know, obviously, to avoid eating at negative seven, that means you have to have eaten sooner. If you're at a negative seven, you probably should be eating.Lesley Logan 26:00  But maybe, like, have a little snack before you like, sit down for a full meal. Brad Crowell 26:03  I found that interesting too. She had a whole comment on that. She said, why are we snacking? If we're hungry, we should eat a meal.Lesley Logan 26:10  Well, that is actually also interesting. I agree. I have a friend who has a bunch of kids, and she and her husband, they make meals for the family, right? And so one of our kids came home from school and was like, you know, hey, I'm hungry. Can I have this to eat? And so the dinner is at six. If you think that that's going to hold you over till six, then yes, but if you think that you're going to be hungry between that and six, then I want you to think about what would make you satiated till six. And they were like, oh, oh, this isn't gonna be enough. And they actually, like, made half a sandwich so that they were enjoying it. So anyways, I thought that was a cool way of looking at what are you snacking on? Do you need a snack or do you really need to eat? So my biggest takeaway, she advised on eating the amount that's right for your body, paying no attention to food scales, paying no attention to the scale in your kitchen. You can do this by just experimenting with bites. And she talked about the two bite challenge. So we have another challenge for you. Leave two bites at your plate at every meal and see how you feel looking at that food on your plate. Reflect on the experience. Do you feel satisfied or still hungry? Experiment and check in with your hunger afterwards. Remember that this isn't about wasting food forever. It's about learning what you need and putting yourself in charge of your portions. And I think this is also this is also just really cool, because we all need different things at different times in our life. So how you ate at 20 is gonna be different than what you need at 30, it's gonna be different what you need at 40, it's gonna be different during a crazy work schedule versus summer time, you know, vacation time. So I think it's just about connecting with your body and noticing, am I hungry? Really? Am I just bored? There's two bites on my plate. Am I full or am I hungry? Oh, I'm hungry. Okay, I'm not giving myself the portion sizes that I needed so that I would not be a negative seven when I wake up. So it's all just important information for you, so that you're not distracted by your tummy when you're trying to make things happen in this world. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 27:58  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 27:59  Thank you so much for joining us today. I hope this is a really amazing I hope this got you thinking about you and what you're eating and how you eat it and enjoy it. If you have questions about it, feel free to let us know. If you want to send this to a friend, that would be amazing. We're working really hard and going from a 1.5% podcast to a 1% podcast. We can only do that if you download it. So share this with a friend and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 28:19  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 28:21  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How to establish and enforce boundaries that protect your personal goals.Why honoring your intuition leads to better decision-making and less regret.The value of intentional time for creativity and deep work.How to overcome guilt around prioritizing your personal passions.Why waiting for life to slow down before pursuing your dreams is a mistake.Episode References/Links:Cambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comOPC Spring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorPilates Flashcards - https://opc.me/flashcardsRise Literary Website - https://riseliterary.comRise Literary Instagram - https://instagram.com/riseliteraryKristen McGuiness Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kristenmcguiness If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! 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DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Even if we call it a boundary, just so you know, you also don't have to explain why your boundaries exist. Brad Crowell 0:04  You don't. Lesley Logan 0:04  And if you need help with that, the holistic psychologist constantly reminds you that you actually do not have to explain why a boundary is a boundary that is.Brad Crowell 0:12  It just is. Lesley Logan 0:13  It just is. Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:57  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the groundbreaking convo I had with Kristen McGuiness in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now, go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us.Brad Crowell 1:12  No hard feelings. We'll still be here. Lesley Logan 1:14  She's a great. Brad Crowell 1:15  Oh yeah. Lesley Logan 1:16  I have actually shared her. Brad Crowell 1:18  Okay, so hold on. Did she write the book that you read, that you told me? Lesley Logan 1:22  Different book. But. Brad Crowell 1:23  Oh, really? Lesley Logan 1:23  Yes, I know. Brad Crowell 1:25  Okay, okay, okay. Lesley Logan 1:26  I know, yes, yeah, no, different book, but same topic. At any rate, it's in my TBRs still, Kristen, I'm so sorry.Brad Crowell 1:33  What's a TBR? Lesley Logan 1:34  To be read. Yeah, this is a TBR. There's no, you know, I anyways, it's, I'm really excited because I really, so, I have actually talked about her multiple times to multiple people, because this woman, when I interviewed her, she was on her monthly like, three days in a hotel to get her shit written, like to get things done. And I just love that this woman was okay. I'm not gonna get anything done. I'm not gonna even try. I'm just going to keep the wheels on the bus, and then every month, I get several days at a hotel uninterrupted. I'm like, I want, I don't even have kids, and I want that. Anyways, before we talk about that, let's talk about how it's March 20th 2025 and it's International Day of Happiness. If you're happy and you know it, celebrate it on International Day of Happiness on March 20th. Brad Crowell 2:21  I thought you were going to clap your hands. Right. Lesley Logan 2:24  Anyways, when I was a kid, my mom would always sing that all the time, so. Brad Crowell 2:27  That's so fun. Lesley Logan 2:28  Other than being in a neutral state, happy is how we should mostly be. Okay. Brad Crowell 2:35  Yeah. Don't fuck it up.Lesley Logan 2:36  Unfortunately, emotions, just feel like that's a lot of pressure. Unfortunately, emotions like anger and sadness are increasingly becoming a default way to be for a lot of us. So here's a day to cheer up and appreciate the good things and silver linings in life. So as you listen to Pharrell Williams's ‘Happy' on repeat, also take a minute this March 20th to consider what truly makes you happy, and how you can pursue it. Well, I can get down with that part of the holiday. Why don't you really take some time to journal what makes me happy, and how can I pursue that more? Brad Crowell 2:43  All right. Lesley Logan 2:54  That's the only part of the song you know. Because I'm happy.Brad Crowell 3:13  That's the best part of the song. Lesley Logan 3:23  Okay. Well, anyways. Brad Crowell 3:24  Good job. Nailing it. Lesley Logan 3:25  We are back from Pilates On Tour. We are home for a little bit, and we are in the middle of the Accessories Flashcard presale. And I promised Brad I was not going to talk about it, but he clearly is sneaking into the show notes. So I'm just going to say, if you know, you know. Brad Crowell 3:41  If you know, you know.Lesley Logan 3:42  And that's how it's gonna be. If you know, you know. Brad Crowell 3:45  And if you don't know, and you're like, what? Lesley Logan 3:46  Go listen to the other recap episode and get the link. But I'm.Brad Crowell 3:49  DM us. Lesley Logan 3:50  But I'm I want you to take or I want you to take action steps sooner. Okay, all right. So what's coming up next that you need to know about is our Spring Training. It is April 27th through May 3rd. It's going to be virtual. There'll be live events and there is replays. So don't worry about it if you are like, oh my God, it's the busiest week of my life, I promise you, you'll be able to attend the things on replay. You want to go to opc.me/events. Pretty soon, I'll tell you what the theme is going to be about this Spring Training. But all the OPC teachers and myself are teaching multiple classes over the week on different pieces of apparatus for different levels of bodies, so that every Pilates lover of any level can have access to moving with accountability, Q&A to get feedback on their form and potentially seeing what OPC is all about. Brad Crowell 4:37  What is it about? Lesley Logan 4:39  Opc.me/events plural to get on the waitlist, which means you get the discount. What's next, Brad? Brad Crowell 4:44  All right. All right. Pilates business owners. Calling all Pilates business owners, go to prfit.biz/accelerator for a free webinar where we're going to dig into the biggest three secrets that Lesley and I have learned after coaching 2500 businesses just like yours, whether you are teaching someone at home, whether you're renting space with someone, or whether you've got a big team in a brick and mortar studio, these three secrets all apply to you, and it's all about how do we make more money? How do we make our businesses actually profitable? And that's what we do at Profitable Pilates. So come join me. It is free, prfit.biz/accelerator. That is profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. And then finally, what is the last note? Lesley Logan 5:28  Well, you guys have to come to Cambodia with us on a Pilates retreat. Brad Crowell 5:30  Obviously. Lesley Logan 5:31  And some breath work and some visualization and some tips and tools and workshops on how to actually make your life the way you want to live it. Plus you get to see incredible temples that are a thousand years old or older. Brad Crowell 5:43  Mind blowing. Lesley Logan 5:43  You get to go on a beautiful water cruise, and it is incredible because you actually get to see how a city can thrive on the water, and the community they work in.Brad Crowell 5:52  They literally live on boats. Lesley Logan 5:53  Yeah and the community they work in. And this is not some sort of like weird tourism thing. We actually get permission by a community to go into the water. You can see how the city is built. And you actually get to attend one of these amazing shops, where you get to see how women can work remotely, making beautiful pieces of things you can buy, and you can support the village in an incredible way. It's so fun. It's so relaxing. It's really nice, because after all the breath work you'll have done that day, you just go out and just be in peace and not taking in, like, overwhelming information. And then also, we go to a lotus farm, and you can just see how this one guy's company uses every single piece of a lotus flower to not only create beautiful things you want to buy, but also energy in remote places. It's quite amazing. Brad Crowell 6:40  It is astounding. Lesley Logan 6:40  It's astound, I mean, it's like, this, it's this guy's like, how can I, like, change the world? And he is doing it and we get to go show you that. So it's in October. You want to go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot. If you're like, I'm gonna do the next one. We haven't planned it yet. Brad Crowell 6:53  We haven't planned it yet. Lesley Logan 6:55  And that is because this is your next time. This is the time.Brad Crowell 6:57  This is your next time.Lesley Logan 6:58  So come.Brad Crowell 6:59  Yeah. So join us at the end of this year, in October, looking forward to it. Lesley Logan 7:03  It's a great time. It's before all the chaos of the end of the year. So it's a really good time, because. Brad Crowell 7:07  It really is. Lesley Logan 7:08  You can reset before the chaos of the holidays, and then you'll have all these tools and things that we'll have done in the workshops and the Pilates to help set you up for 2026.Brad Crowell 7:17  Some breath work, some mindset. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. Okay, we have an audience question before we dig into this awesome conversation with Kristen McGuiness.Lesley Logan 7:28  That was August. That earthquake, you guys, if you're watching on YouTube, was her, it's earthquake August. Brad Crowell 7:33  Earthquake August. Okay, love_Danielle on IG asks, when will your flashcards be available again on Amazon and is there a discount code available?Lesley Logan 7:44  So the time this comes out, we should be back stocked on Amazon. We were selling out all of our OG Matt decks, and we had to completely sell out of that deck on Amazon before the new mat deck could come up. So that's now available on Amazon. Our Reformer Deck is our bestselling deck.Brad Crowell 8:02  It's hard to keep in stock, not a lot. Lesley Logan 8:04  It's hard to keep in stock. Brad Crowell 8:05  Thank you for supporting us. Lesley Logan 8:06  So thank you. We love that you love it. And at the time that you were asking this question, we did have some in stock on our website, but not on Amazon. So what we'll say is we should be stocked on Amazon. We do not have discount codes available for any of our decks, and it's mostly because actually, we're really a small business, guys, and these decks are really a lot of work to put together, and they actually cost a lot of money to print out. And so while we would love to just give the discounts around everywhere, we do have to make sure that they continue to pay for themselves. We continue hitting print on them. And so you can buy them on Amazon. You could also buy them from us, and if you buy them from us, we obviously can make more money to support more Pilates adventures that are out there. We do.Brad Crowell 8:47  We love Amazon, but they take a whole lot. We have a love-hate relationship with Amazon. Lesley Logan 8:51  At the moment, if you are the people trying to do your best to boycott places like Amazon and Target and things like that, we fully support you. And what you can do in your targeting of boycotts is be very intentional about who you're shopping from. So if you are going to shop on Amazon, shopping from people like us is a great thing. Small businesses, because it really does affect us in a positive way, Amazon allows people to find our products who don't know us, and so that's why we are there. It's not because we're like pro everything that they do, we actually need to be found. Brad Crowell 9:22  We intentionally sell on our website.Lesley Logan 9:24  Yeah. So if you buy from our website, it's better for all of us. And then the people that you're not enjoying and want, not wanting them to make money, don't. So you can buy from us, and then we get it all. Brad Crowell 9:33  Yeah. So go to opc.me/flashcards. Lesley Logan 9:36  So in case you're wondering why we're on there, if you don't own a business with products, you need to understand that the way the world works, we, unfortunately, as product based businesses, have to be where people already are. And so that exposes them to OPC, and then hopefully they come over to our side, and then they find all of our amazing stuff. But I don't judge any of the people who shop on there, because we do, too. It's convenient. So anyways, all this to say, yes, they're there. They should be back in stock, and you can also buy from us. Brad Crowell 10:07  Awesome. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we're going to talk with Kristen McGuiness, who is an author. And she talks about how does she escape the chaos of being an entrepreneur and being a mom to be able to write books. So, pretty cool stuff. Great conversation. She sounds amazing. Stick around. We'll be right back.Brad Crowell 10:27  Okay, now, let's talk about Kristen McGuiness. Kristen is a bestselling author, book publisher and a book coach with a deep passion for storytelling and empowering others to find their own voice. With years of experience, Kristen has helped countless others bring their ideas to life. Her own writing journey includes her novel, Live Through This, a compelling and thought-provoking exploration of resilience and activism. Beyond her professional accomplishments, Kristen is a mother, an entrepreneur who believes in creating space for creativity and living a life aligned with purpose. Lesley Logan 11:00  I mean, thank you Roxy Menzies, who introduced us. Because I just. Brad Crowell 11:04  I was wondering how the dots got connected there. Lesley Logan 11:06  Yeah, yeah. I really enjoyed this intro. I feel like, if we lived in Ohio, Santa Barbara, we would all be friends. We'd be, you know, doing life in the daytime, and then I would figure out when she's gonna be at that hotel, and I would get another room, and then we could have drinks at the end of the day, going, what did you fucking create? Like, this is what I dreamed of, Kristen. Anyways, I just think she'd be cool, but I also appreciated her vulnerability and honesty. I feel sometimes a lot of moms have to, like, show us all the hats that they can wear in a day. And Kristen was pretty honest about how, no. So she said, I think my creative fuel tank is the same place where I draw my maternal energy from. They are both creative forces. When I'm in my mom mode, I'm running off of that creative fuel in the same way I would be if I was writing or editing. But she highlighted the importance of taking time for herself, and she said, at the end of the day, I've got nothing left. I mean, I could do an Excel spreadsheet, but I'm not going to come with a masterpiece. And I actually, really love that. She is actually not putting pressure on herself to write something amazing. On the same day, she just ran a household, and I found that to be cool. Brad Crowell 11:06  It's amazing permission. Lesley Logan 11:06  Yeah, amazing permission. I do. I think that, well, it takes a lot because you're like, oh, but you got this thing that you want to write, this thing you want to do, and a creative is like, I've got to birth this thing. And I really think it's cool that she gives herself permission to be where she's at and do what she's doing, wherever that is. So if she's at the hotel writing her work or her masterpiece, she's not mom and the children. She and her partner have set things up so that she can do that. And I have a lot of girlfriends who have children, and I find even more together, they're not as present as I love them to be, because that boundary isn't there yet. And I think that what's so cool is Kristen gives herself permission to, I have a boundary for my work when I'm with my kids, and I have a boundary for my family when I'm doing this work. And I just think we all could take, even if you don't have kids, you could take permission for that. Go to, I want to go to a hotel this month just by myself.Brad Crowell 13:03  Me too. Lesley Logan 13:04  Well, maybe not march. This is a, this is a heck of a month, but April, I'm doing it in April.Brad Crowell 13:09  Okay, okay. I have a couple things. She said one thing that I thought was really interesting, she commented on being a grown ass woman still having to tell her parents that she's going to a conference when she just rented a fucking hotel room for herself because of the generational assumption of work hard, play hard. Okay, this was like a super side note. Nothing to do with writing, but I thought it was such an interesting observation. It made me think about it as I was listening to the interview. You know, she said her parents' generation is actually sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice until you get retired and then y'all can go, you know, take a long walk. The rest of my life is for me. I'm never doing anything for anybody ever again, as opposed to the way that she's doing her life, which I think is very generational, because I'm more associated with her. My parents very much are in the way that her parents are. But she's like how can I enjoy some of my life now and not have to wait till I'm 65 and retired to in quote-unquote, enjoy my life, and also this idea of just like 1,000% self sacrifice until that time, maybe there's a happy medium in there that I think we can have. So anyway, that is not what we had written down here for me to chat about today, but I just thought it was so powerful that I wanted to reiterate that. Lesley Logan 14:29  Also, just in case anyone feels guilty about a fib like that, that is, don't, sometimes people in our lives are just not going to understand why we do what we do. We don't need their permission. We don't actually need them to understand. So just tell them what they need to hear so you can go do the thing you want to do. Brad Crowell 14:47  Well, actually, instead of encouraging people to lie, that's not what we're encouraging here, what I think is a better through line is it's another boundary. She created a boundary between, you know, she heard her mom for this specific experience, so that she doesn't have to go through this emotional roller coaster and then justify all the thing and the expense and the la, la, la, you know, and then be judged. And you know, all that.Lesley Logan 14:48  When you also speak, even if we call it boundary, just so you know, you also don't have to explain why your boundaries exist. Brad Crowell 15:20  You don't. Lesley Logan 15:20  And if you need help with that, the holistic psychologist constantly reminds you that you actually do not have to explain why a boundary is a boundary that. Brad Crowell 15:28  It just is. Lesley Logan 15:28  It just is. Brad Crowell 15:29  Yep, that being said, she was talking about control, right? And she said hey, we clearly can't control things around us. The only thing that we can control are the choices that we make when the things around us are happening. What she was talking about was she's an entrepreneur. Her husband is an entrepreneur. They run different businesses. They also have children. And she's a writer. She said she was reflecting on finding agency in the midst of chaos. And, you know, obviously the most glaring example would be COVID. Like you already mentioned, you could set everything up, but then kablam COVID comes around. She said you need to flip the way you're looking at it, instead of like this shit is happening to me. She said you get to create your own pathway through whatever it is that you're navigating, and that's an opportunity that you have more control over, instead of it's happening to me. So she acknowledged life's unpredictability and emphasized it's just this thing of at a certain point you didn't hit that first domino, and you just have to sometimes be okay, we're in the pressure cooker right now, but relief is always on the way, right? And she shared she had a mantra. I actually thought it was great, because she clearly knows our audience. She said, I'm gonna write my way through this chaos. I'm gonna write my way through it because she's a writer. She said, maybe for you guys, you're gonna have to Pilates your way through the chaos. You know what I mean, wherever is your safe zone.Lesley Logan 16:51  I agree, whether you write or do Pilates, there has to be something that you're doing for yourself to process what you're going through. When I found out that Jay had passed away, it was on a Tuesday, and I still showed up for my session on Wednesday. And it's because moving through the grief made it actually easier to grieve. Or when there's a lot going on, you might just want to, like, keep watching the news and just watch them repeat that shit over and over again to keep you there until the next ad break. Or you can go move your body and get CliffsNotes later, because we have to, or you can go write, or you can go journal, or whatever it is, we have to have some way of processing what we're going through so that we can go back to the beginning, whatever the next step is, and keep going. I find that in today's chaos, a lot of people are waiting for things to be better before they take the first next step, and sometimes you just have to take it. So, you can use whatever that creative energy is to use that to go through whatever is going on.Brad Crowell 16:51  Yeah, well, listen, stick around. We'll be right back, because we're going to dig into some really juicy be it action items that we had. Lesley Logan 17:07  It's such a good, such a robust episode.Brad Crowell 17:58  With Kristen McGuiness. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 18:01  Welcome back. All right, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Kristen McGuiness? She said if I care about my creative careers, whatever that thing is that I love to do or that you love to do, you've got to create a boundary around it and hold that sacred, okay? So this is, again, the through line here of today's episode is boundaries. She shared that if you truly care about something, whether it is a creative project, a personal passion, personal passion, or even self-care, you must be intentional about carving out time to do it. Right? There's no question about it. Setting clear boundaries allows you to dedicate energy towards what it is that actually fulfills you, even when life gets demanding. And I think that's the hardest part. She said it's about creating those pockets of freedom, the pockets of concentration and the pockets of creativity. So we've got the POFs.Lesley Logan 18:58  The POFs, POC and POC again. Brad Crowell 19:01  Yeah, POF. We'll call them POFs, Pockets Of Freedom. And I think that's another argument for taking time to the hotel like she did. Lesley Logan 19:09  Those all fall under gemstone time. Brad Crowell 19:12  That's right. Lesley Logan 19:13  So, if you come on my retreat, or you've ever heard me talk about how to create an ideal schedule, your gemstone time is time you have to protect. Brad Crowell 19:21  Gotta protect it. Lesley Logan 19:21  And it is the time where you do things that you need to concentrate and be creative on. So, you know, the things that can propel your life and your dreams forward.Brad Crowell 19:30  Yeah, actually moving things forward. So, what about you? Lesley Logan 19:33  Never lose sight of your dreams no matter what. She said this and I think one of the authors that Oprah quoteed was Gertrude Lyons who said, "The only times I've ever made mistakes in life is when I've chosen to ignore that voice." So that voice being your intuition, the thing that you want to do. And I think that's so true. I think we can all look back and look at things we regret, and it's like, oh, I didn't turn left when I knew I should have, I turned right or I should have done this. And she said, as long as you're listening to the small, quiet voice inside you, you will lways end up where you need to go. And this is actually just one of the truest things. I mean, just like us sitting here in this house, this was like a small voice going kitchen both now, think you should go now, think, you know what I mean, and not letting all the things. Brad Crowell 20:13  I think you should go now. I think you should go now. Lesley Logan 20:19  What if we made a meditation, which is like, I think you should go now. Brad Crowell 20:22  Today is the day that you should go.Lesley Logan 20:29  Create a boundary. Brad Crowell 20:31  Going is what today is for. Lesley Logan 20:34  Boundaries are kind.Lesley Logan 20:36  Anyways, I hope that you take some time to listen to Kristen's episode a couple of times. And really, ladies, especially my ladies, I know there's a few good men who listen, but ladies, I hope you realize this person, she's not perfect. She's not claiming to be perfect. She is really, truly honoring what is possible and when it's possible, and making sure that she doesn't ever stop focusing on what her dreams are, even if it means they're in pockets of freedom and pockets of concentration. So. Brad Crowell 21:01  Tell us about your POFs. Lesley Logan 21:02  We want to know. Brad Crowell 21:03  Yeah. Lesley Logan 21:04  Yeah. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 21:05  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 21:06  Thank you so much for listening to this episode, and every episode you listen. This is episode 500. Brad Crowell 21:10  Five hundo.Lesley Logan 21:11  Cue the balloons. Nope. You don't have it on your thing. I would. I just, if you're, okay, well, if you, I think you did, it's okay. It's beyond. It's past now. If you're listening, they don't even know, but we're trying to do balloons. There we go, confetti, on the, on the YouTube. You can see it on the YouTube. We love you. You're amazing. And we couldn't have gotten to 500 episodes without you listening and you writing in and you sending your questions in, and you sending your you got to make it more of a heart, babe if you're going to do it, and and then you've got to send in your win so we can shout them out on the FYFs because we want to constantly support you. That's what this podcast is about. So thank you for your love, for your sharing, all of that and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 21:58  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 22:00  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 22:43  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 22:48  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 22:52  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 22:59  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 23:02  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Anneke Fesko and Laurie Tricarico discuss how elders can encourage women in the church.Anneke currently serves the OPC as Care Coordinator for Ministers' Wives and works for the OPC Committee on Ministerial Care. (Committee of Walking Hugs) She is married to John, an ordained OPC minister and theology professor at Reformed Theological Seminary in Jackson, Mississippi. They have three children, two sons in high school and a daughter in elementary school, and live in Madison, Mississippi.Laurie serves as the coordinator of the Crisis Care Team at New Life OPC in Williamsport PA, where she is a member. She and Al and their children served as foreign missionaries in Uganda for 11 years. Al presently serves as the Associate General Secretary for the Committee on Home Missions and Church Extension of the OPC. They have 5 grown children and seven grandchildren. Al and Laurie live in Williamsport, PA.Recommended BooksJ. Ligon Duncan and Susan Hunt, Women's Ministry in the Local Church, Crossway Books, 2006.Paul Tripp, Awe: Why It Matters for Everything We Think, Say, and Do, Crossway Books, 2015Patricia E. Clawson and Diane L. Olinger, eds., Choosing the Good Portion: Women of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church.

Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell break down key insights from Lesley's conversation with Sam Mandel, CEO and co-founder of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, one of the first ketamine clinics in the country. They explore how ketamine therapy can help reframe trauma, unlock new mental pathways, and provide clarity for lasting change. In this recap episode, they discuss the power of perspective shifts, breaking free from limiting beliefs, and why taking action—despite fear or perfectionism—is the key to growth. If you've ever felt stuck in your past, this conversation will give you a fresh way to move forward.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. 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Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How ketamine therapy helps reframe past experiences and shift perspectives on trauma.The role of ketamine in rewiring the brain and breaking old thought patterns.Why a structured clinical environment ensures the best results with ketamine therapy.The importance of normalizing alternative mental health treatments and breaking the stigma.How perfectionism holds you back and why taking “messy action” leads to real growth.Episode References/Links:Cambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com Spring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorAccessories Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistKetamine Clinics LA Website: https://Ketamineclinics.com Sam Mandel's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesammandel If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  The past is the past, but our story about it can change at any given moment. So the event still happened, but the story we tell ourselves about that event that is something that we can change. And he said the ketamine really helps you dig in, because, well, first off, he said the most challenging aspect of trauma is that we feel like it can define us, and ketamine helps you see the traumatic events with a new perspective, detaching from the overwhelming emotions and allowing for more objective processing. Lesley Logan 0:31  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:10  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the eye-opening convo I had with Sam Mandel in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now go back and listen to that one or you can listen to this one and then listen to that one. You can listen, too, in whatever order you want. I found it to be really fascinating.Brad Crowell 1:35  Yeah, actually, I always find it funny that people tell us we've clearly said this almost 300 times now, or 250 times now saying you could pick if you want to watch one, listen to one first or the other, or watch and. Lesley Logan 1:48  People need permission. Brad Crowell 1:49  But then when people meet us, they say, oh, I'm really enjoying your recap. So I listen to them first and then go back. Or other people are like, I don't know. I have to listen to this first versus the I can't listen (inaudible).Lesley Logan 1:59  They want to guess. They want to know if their takeaway is what we're going to talk about, which I think is really fascinating. I think it's also what a great personality test.Brad Crowell 2:08  Yeah. I don't know what conclusions we're drawing from it but yes. Lesley Logan 2:11  Here's what I would say. I listen to a couple true crime shows, and I cannot listen to the talking about the show until I've listened to the show, because I like the anticipation of, like, did he do it? What's going on? Like, I like that. And then I like listening to. Brad Crowell 2:26  What are you talking about you skip to the end? Lesley Logan 2:30  Well, when we watched The Crown, yes, I Google. I Google, like, if it is true. Well, sometimes the anxiety makes me want to know.Brad Crowell 2:37  This is the Lesley thing. We start a thing, there's some kind of stress, which is, in every TV show, it's on purpose. And then she pulls out her phone, Google's the resolution for the entire show. And then I'm always like, don't tell me. I don't want to know. I literally don't want to know. I want to enjoy the show the way they made it. Lesley Logan 2:54  I am not your friend to support you not finding out if you're having a boy or girl, even though I completely support whether or not they identify as that, I like to know. Brad Crowell 3:06  You're not going to do the Moira Rose, I don't know if you trust me with that secret. Lesley Logan 3:13  No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to be I don't want to hold a secret. No, that's not true. I can't hold a secret. Brad Crowell 3:20  Hilarious. All right. Well, today is March 13th 2025 and it's a day for two specials things here. Lesley Logan 3:26  Oh, okay. So here we go. First up, it's International Every Girl Wins Day. This holiday helps bring attention to women's rights worldwide, especially to young girls. The celebrations involve talks, lectures and conferences on women's empowerment in every country, the goal is to achieve long-term systemic change that addresses women's rights to equity. The day also inspires young girls to take pride in their most essential assets. They're encouraged to support each other and be ambassador of the female empowerment movement, not just beneficiaries of it. The Ever Girl Wins Institute introduced this holiday. That's so cool. Brad Crowell 3:59  Yeah, pretty cool. Lesley Logan 4:00  What a fun day. Okay, well, that's so fun, we have to figure out how to celebrate that more. Let's participate next year. I don't know. Lex, if you're listening, let's talk about it.Brad Crowell 4:08  Yeah. Second up, it's National Open An Umbrella Indoors Day. Lesley Logan 4:13  What? Brad Crowell 4:13  Right? I was like, okay, I need to include this. So it's a day to test the popular superstition that opening an umbrella inside will bring bad luck. So I didn't know that was a thing. I didn't realize it. I've heard of walking under a ladder, something about black cats. I don't actually know. Lesley Logan 4:29  I have always heard that opening the umbrella inside is bad luck, but I've never participated in it, because where else are you supposed to open the umbrella, outside in the rain? Not everythin has a.Brad Crowell 4:39  You always open it indoor first, and then go outside with it.Lesley Logan 4:42  Oh, I kind of want to, if I can push the door open, I want to open the umbrella as I'm going outside, because. Brad Crowell 4:48  Yeah, as you're going outside.Lesley Logan 4:49  If there's not a, most buildings don't have a porch, like a, what do you call it? It's not a porch. It's not what you're staying on, it's, it's overhang. Most of them don't have the overhang. And I just think it's annoying, because then you're wet under your umbrella.Brad Crowell 4:49  Yes, yes.Lesley Logan 4:55  Okay, well, tell us more about this day. Brad Crowell 5:03  Apparently, superstitions are baseless beliefs held by people that influence their behavior. So, shame on you, apparently. There are irrational beliefs that performing or not performing particular acts will lead to either bad luck or good luck. National Open An Umbrella Day, Indoors Day, allows you to try your luck and see how your day goes. So if you're willing to risk it. Lesley Logan 5:27  I just think that this person is kind of an ass. It's baseless. Your superstitions are baseless beliefs. There are so much studies on where you have attention, that's where things go, and that's why manifesting works. So I would just say, focus on the good things. You don't bring in the bad. I wouldn't go wrong going, oh my God, this happened because I opened an umbrella inside, but maybe you do. And so this day is for you. Lesley Logan 5:47  Okay, so we are at P.O.T. Denver. It actually starts Friday, but we are on our way. And so if you're there, make sure you come and say hi. If you're an OPC agency or eLevate member, we are having a little happy hour, so make sure you come over and find us. We want to talk about it. We want to hug you. Then get this, guess what, guys, March 18th to the 24th the Accessories Deck is on presale.Brad Crowell 6:09  So that's less than one week, y'all. Lesley Logan 6:11  Yes, so if you go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, this is your last chance, because next week's podcast, we won't even be talking about it, because if you're not on the waitlist, you can't get the discount. So you must go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist to get that 30% off. Brad Crowell 6:27  I think we'll still talk about it this week. Lesley Logan 6:29  No, no. Urgency, people. Get on it.Brad Crowell 6:30  Get on it right now, opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. Lesley Logan 6:34  Hey, look, in case our things fuck up, and even though you get on the waitlist, you don't hear about it. Brad Crowell 6:38  It's possible. Lesley Logan 6:38  Also, because this is the last flashcard deck. Is there a waitlist anymore? Brad Crowell 6:43  Yeah, what are we going to do with this waitlist? We're going to have to email y'all and be like, hey, this waitlist is now closed. Do you want to go over to other waitlists and we'll, we'll let you know what we got.Lesley Logan 6:52  Yeah, we'll have to, someone, whoever was on the team listening, please assign me that task. Okay.Brad Crowell 6:56  Okay. Lesley Logan 6:57  April. Brad Crowell 6:58  Coming up hard. Coming up fast. Lesley Logan 7:00  April is coming up fast, and Spring Training is going to be April 27th through May 3rd, and those who are on the waitlist are going to get the early bird special. And this is a different waitlist than the flashcard waitlist. Brad Crowell 7:12  True. They're not the same waitlist. Lesley Logan 7:13  No, they're not. And so if you go to opc.me/events you are going to be entered.Brad Crowell 7:19  That is plural, opc.me/eventsLesley Logan 7:21  Plural. That's where you go to make sure you get the early bird opportunity, because we will open up the early bird sign-ups a few days before regular sign-ups, and only those on the waitlist are going to get the discounted rate. Up next, Brad, what do you got for them? Brad Crowell 7:35  Okay, we've got the Profitable Pilates Accelerator free webinar, if you are taking any clients on your own anywhere, whether that is at your house or in the park or your friend is, I don't know, buying you lunch. Technically, you are getting paid to teach, and that means you have your own business. And I'm sure you're aware, Lesley and I have been working with business owners just like you, just like us, where we were and where we are, coaching them through all the hard questions. How do you get new clients? How do I make this a living? Whatever the question might be, but I have a free webinar for you, specifically on increasing your income. Okay. So, come join me. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator that is profit without the O dot B-I-Z slash accelerator and join me for this free webinar. I can't wait to dig into the three biggest secrets that Lesley and I have learned after coaching more than 2500 small business owners just like you. And then finally, we've got October of this year. Lesley Logan 8:40  Cambodia.Brad Crowell 8:41  Cambodia. We literally just got back. Lesley Logan 8:43  We just got back and it was kind of a quick trip for us. We were only there. Brad Crowell 8:47  Two and a half weeks. Yeah, we were traveling for two and a half weeks. Lesley Logan 8:50  Yeah, we had a couple of days in Singapore, so not really two full weeks in Cambodia, but we loved it, and we're jonesing to go back already. And we have some epic people who already signed up. I'm really excited. Some of these people have been on the next time I'm gonna go next time for years, and now they're coming. Brad Crowell 8:50  It's true. Lesley Logan 8:55  And we have some repeat offenders. Brad Crowell 9:09  We have someone else signing up this weekend. It's definitely starting to get full. October is a very popular time for our community. The weather is lovely. It's quite beautiful. If that's something of interest to you, make sure you reach out to us as soon as possible, and we'll get you all the information that you need to make the decision. But it's going to be October 12th through the 18th, 2025 so, come hang out in our favorite place in the world. Lesley Logan 9:33  Yes. Brad Crowell 9:33  Where do you go? Crownestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com okay.Lesley Logan 9:39  Okay, so we're gonna get into the amazing Sam Mandel, and we're gonna learn all about ketamine and talk about it. Before we do that, we have a question from the audience. Brad Crowell 9:48  We sure do. Okay. Eva de Brune from Instagram, states and asks, I know you enjoy lifting weights. Is the reformer, like the Contrology reformer and mat and Wunda chair, etc., is that enough? Or do you recommend adding weights to the workout routine? I get asked a lot, is mat enough? Yoga, you are using your body weight. What is your take on this? So a couple of things. So I think the way that this is written, I'm not sure if she's asking if she should go to the gym and be lifting weights, or if she's asking if she'd be adding weights to your Pilates practice. Lesley Logan 10:21  I think it's go, I think it's the first, which is going to the gym and lifting weights in addition to your Pilates and your yoga. So here's the deal. Unfortunately, many of the studies that have been done on Pilates implies resistance has been done with Pilates isn't how I teach. Scientific studies cost a fuck ton of money. I actually, I've postponed a particular call with a group that does these studies multiple times, because it's tens of thousands of dollars. And the reality is, it's not even the best way of testing, because the more Pilates you do, the more muscles you bring in. So then who should we be testing? You know, there's just a lot of things. So what I can tell you is, my Contrology equipment has the heavy springs, obviously, that is resistance. That is absolutely resistance. Is it the same resistance training as heavy weights? I don't think we can say that it is. And so what I'm going to say is, I know you're very busy. I know you've got a lot going on. I would love to be able to say Pilates is all you need. I don't think it's true. Brad Crowell 10:21  It's all you need. Lesley Logan 10:21  I don't think it's true, but here's what I would say, pick a couple of days to do some heavy kettlebells. Pick a couple of days to do some barbell training. You don't have to hit. I'm not actually a big fan of hit for women over a certain age, it's can be really cortisol-inducing, but I would do some or do some heavy weightlifting. I would, also, because it's cool, because it's really cool to see what you can lift. It's really fun. The mat alone is epic and amazing for mobility and strength training. But even Joe realized that people needed more, and that's why he brought the springs in. And it's not that they need more because the mat isn't enough. It's because they need support to teach the body parts that don't have the access yet. So I actually use my weight training as information on where I have work to do, like my Pilates practice could support my weight training. I recognize like I have a balance issue when I do my single leg dead lifts. And so I use my Pilates Cadillac and my reformer to help train the things that I need so I can weight-train better. So to me, Pilates is actually so I can do my life. I'm sure there's a yogi out there who's gonna get pissed if I say yoga is not an not enough, but I'm gonna be really honest, depending on what your bone density is doing, body weight exercises alone are not necessarily enough, because you need to stress the muscles. So that is where I do think heavy springs can be compared to lifting weights, but they're just different things. Brad Crowell 12:40  Stress the bones. Lesley Logan 12:41  Stress the bones, yeah, you stress the muscles, which pull in the bones, which creates good stress on the bones, which creates good bone density. So, the other thing I would just say is your body is you got one, and the longer we wait to challenge it, the harder it is to support it. And so if you went in my routine, I do Pilates five to six days a week. I lift three to four days a week. I do yoga twice a week. I walk every day. And I do these things because I actually want to be 100 years old and still be able to travel and hike and be independent. So it's just like, what do you want in your future? And then how does your fitness regimen actually support what you want? Where are you at in your age group? Notice I didn't mention any cardio in there, because my Pilates practice has bouts of cardio in it. When I'm doing some of my yoga stuff, my heart rate goes up. When I do some of my lifting stuff, my heart rate goes up. So I'm challenging my heart in multiple ways. I don't need to spend time doing that, but I would, I would lift some weights, babe. And yes, your mat practice is essential. It's amazing. It's great for mobility and longevity. But I do not have a study in front of me that says it's enough.Brad Crowell 13:46  Right. Well, great question, Eva, thanks for asking. Lesley Logan 13:49  Yeah. You know, here's the deal. If someone wants me to do a study, I would love to do it. You have no idea how much money you actually need to do it, and you need people who know the method. I would want to have people who are beginners, people who are advanced. I want to have women, men, but then, you need to know the women's cycle and where they're at. There's so much information. And I think that until we have that, you got to do it all. Brad Crowell 14:10  You got to do it all. All right, well, stick around we'll be right back, because we're about to dig in to a really interesting conversation with a doctor, Dr. Sam Mandel. We're going to talk about. Lesley Logan 14:20  Ketamine. Brad Crowell 14:21  Ketamine. Special K, all the drug paraphernalia names. It's all the same stuff, y'all, it's just actually how you use it. And he went way deep on that, so I thought it was really interesting. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 14:33  Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Sam Mandel. Sam Mandel is the co-founder and CEO of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, Sam and his father, who's also a doctor, opened KCLA in 2014 making it one of the first ketamine clinics in the entire country. Sam's passion for this innovative treatment stems from the profound and lasting positive impacts it has on people's lives. He believes ketamine therapy offers individuals the oportunity to rewrite their stories, overcome deeply ingrained mental patterns and step into a life filled with hope, resilience and joy.Lesley Logan 15:09  Okay, so when I got to talk to Sam, I was like, okay, I'm very interested, because we've had Dr. Kelly Bender on. Brad Crowell 15:15  Yes. Lesley Logan 15:15  She's a dear friend of mine, and I know that she does ketamine therapy and treatment, and we have a personal friend who we know has done ketamine treatments. She tried to do them on her own and. Brad Crowell 15:26  Yes, I mean, she was prescribed it, but she did them at home alone, which I thought, I didn't realize that was an option.Lesley Logan 15:32  And also, we have another friend where his wife has gone to the clinic like Sam's, and then he did on his own. And so anyways, so I just was very interested, because also, I think there's a lot of misinformation out there, and then when you have a death of someone who is abusing it with other things, then people get scared of something. And so I was really intrigued, because I think a lot of ways that people are affected of being it till they see it is they have past traumas or things going on in their brain that keep them from having the ability to be it till they see it. They have all the ideas. They've been listening this podcast. They have all this support, but then they have this stuff that's keeping them in their way. And so I really want to have Sam on because if ketamine can help them, then they need it to be it till they see it, right? So here's one thing I learned, ketamine is actually a psychedelic. I guess I didn't know that. I don't know what I thought ketamine was, so I thought that was really interesting. And it's really the only legally available psychedelic in the United States. It has the ability to dissolve these barriers that get in our way and help people get out of their own way. And so obviously, traditional talk therapy is really great. It can be helpful, but it says limitations. It's because our conscious mind gets in the way and makes it difficult to confront those deep seated issues. But ketamine acts in a different part of the brain than antidepressants can, and it allows these breakthroughs that aren't necessarily possible with other methods. And I think that's really cool, because we've heard of great stories of how ketamine can help people, like vets and different things, and like. Brad Crowell 16:57  PTSD.Lesley Logan 16:58  Oh yes, and it also like just kind of helps you take a different look at what the thing is. And I think in our own brains, we can judge ourselves for our actions we took or we didn't take in that situation, because it can be difficult to kind of forgive yourself about how you participated in an event that's affecting you, or how long it's, you just get in your head about it. And the way that ketamine can actually, when prescribed correctly and when done at a I think it's so cool that there's a clinic that you can go so, you know, you're safe, you know, I mean, first of all, it is safe. Brad Crowell 17:30  It's a controlled environment. Oh, yeah. Lesley Logan 17:31  It's a controlled environment, yes.Brad Crowell 17:32  I think that's half the reason why I stayed away from drugs was I didn't know what was going to happen, and if I knew something was going to happen to me and I was going to be impaired. Am I in a place where I'm going to be safe, right? So.Lesley Logan 17:45  Right. When I finally tried doing a little like micro dosing of mushrooms, it has to be at the house. There can be nothing going on. Brad Crowell 17:53  I can't have any obligations, no expectations from anybody else.Lesley Logan 17:59  Yeah, all these things we didn't even need to do that we could have just gone to Sam's clinic, and it's all set up in his clinic. Brad Crowell 18:05  Sam's clinic. Lesley Logan 18:05  Sam's clinic. It's called, not Sam's clinic. It's called, Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, KCLA. So anyways, I just think that it's important for me to bring to everyone's attention here, that this is something that exists, and there are places that you can do it in a controlled way to actually get the true benefits from it. And because I've had so many people tell me that they have good benefits, I just didn't want negative stuff to keep people from doing it in the right way. Brad Crowell 18:32  Well, let's talk about why you might want to participate. Why would you be signing up to do a psychedelic? What I really enjoyed about Sam was him breaking it down from the perspective of a doctor, of what it actually is doing, how it's affected his patients. They've been around since 2014 so they're 10 years. So, they've done like, 30,000 treatments or something, you know, amazing. So he said ketamine helps people to craft the story around the trauma that they have. He said what happened is fixed, meaning the past. Whatever traumatic event happened, it's fixed, and it can never be changed. The past is the past, but our story about it can change at any given moment. So the event still happened, but the story we tell ourselves about that event that is something that we can change. And he said that ketamine really helps you dig in, because, well, first off, he said the most challenging aspect of trauma is that we feel like it can define us, and ketamine helps you see the traumatic events with a new perspective, detaching from the overwhelming emotions and allowing for more objective processing. The potential for ketamine to promote neuroplasticity, meaning your brain is creating new pathways, right? So, you know the expression, old dog can't be taught new tricks, right? Well, the whole idea there is that you're in a rut. You're in a groove, and it's really hard to jump out of that groove and create a new way of thinking, because we just default to what is easiest, and what is easiest is what we already know. So if we've defined for ourselves years ago that this thing equals pain, this thing equals fear, this equals whatever the thing is the story we tell ourselves, it is actually really hard to rewrite that story, and ketamine can help allow your brain to create those new storylines, those new pathways, so it helps bump out of that rut, which I thought was pretty cool. He said ketamine provides this kind of objective clarity. It can be extremely healing and transformational for people. Lesley Logan 18:51  Yeah, it kind of makes you go, should we all just go and do a ketamine treatment? Like, can it just be, like, the jump start you need? I don't know. It feels, I just, I feel like maybe it would help me get the all the journaling in the world that I've been doing, I might be able to speed up the process if I just did a treatment around the thing that keeps coming up.Brad Crowell 20:55  I think that's the idea. And I think also, even just the concept of that, it still feels taboo. It still feels like this scary thing that, great we've put it in a controlled environment, but I actually think it would benefit society if we normalized it. Lesley Logan 21:12  Yeah, well, we have to, first of all, we got to normalize mental health and that we all have different ways.Brad Crowell 21:17  Yes, same exact stigma as any kind of therapy, or any of that. This is a different form of therapy than talk therapy, than. Lesley Logan 21:25  I don't know. Maybe this is because we actually did do 14, 15 years in LA, and I knew people who were doing these things and doing controlled micro dosing of other things. And because my friend studies it, I know the benefits. And so to me, it doesn't feel taboo. Also, maybe we all could use a little bit of like, when you lived in LA, everyone had a therapist, and it was not unheard of for people to go, yeah, I'm gonna go get some ketamine therapy. We need to normalize all that for the rest of the country. Therapy is real. Do it. And also, if you can't get to, LA, do your research. But I would definitely use Sam's website for what you're looking at, as far as what the standard should be.Brad Crowell 22:07  Like the standard, which organization's the gold standard, you know, go look up Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, and then compare that to a local clinic. Lesley Logan 22:14  Or and or go to LA. Brad Crowell 22:16  Yeah, or reach out to them and talk to them and ask them, you know, what they recommend. Lesley Logan 22:19  Yeah, they had some great stuff. So anyways, I think it's great. I think I could see where this could be really useful. And obviously it's not what you go do every Thursday. But if you've got -ish holding you back, what are you waiting for? Brad Crowell 22:33  Yeah, let's splash that -ish.Lesley Logan 22:35  I don't think that's what Sam wants.Brad Crowell 22:42  All right, stick around. We'll be right back with those Be It Action Items from Dr. Sam Mandel. Brad Crowell 22:47  All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Sam Mandel? Borrowing Nike slogan, he said take action. Just do it. Honestly, planning and strategizing is important, thinking things through, figuring out who you are, what you want, and putting together a plan that actually matters. So, the just do it part could start with the planning, but I think it's so easy for us to have analysis paralysis. I was just having this conversation with someone over the weekend of yeah, I started to do the thing, and then I ran into a speed bump, and I had to make a choice. But to make the choice, I had to learn a whole lot of stuff, and to learn a whole lot of stuff, it was going to take me a lot of time. And then what did I do? Nothing, right? So sometimes maybe we can phone a friend and shortcut that maybe we can, I don't know, join a coaching group and shortcut that maybe we can call a doctor and shortcut that when it comes to the planning and whatever, but I think just getting out there and taking messy action, we talk about that all the time. Lesley Logan 23:43  And also, if you haven't yet listened to the interview, go listen to it, because you actually hear about how he and his father started the clinic, which was like just doing it. It was like a freaking closet with a tiny desk and everything. But I think as we plan different things, there's part of me that loves how I do things. I just go for it. And then sometimes you and the team have too many questions, and I'm like, I don't have the answer for that. I think we're gonna figure it out when we get there. And it doesn't always work that way. So I would say, if you are someone who has to know every single thing before you get started this Be It Action Item is for you.Brad Crowell 24:14  Yeah, there's just too many unknowns. So planning can stop you in your track. Lesley Logan 24:18  We've coached so many people who have made sure they have all their plans to a tee, and then something out of everyone's control comes in and fucks it all up. I've had friends who've literally planned exactly what they want their business do, and then literally, two months later, after they did everything to a tee, perfectly, exactly how they wanted, they spend the budget the right way, everything, then COVID happened, fucked it all up. Didn't matter. So, you know, I think there's a healthy balance. Brad Crowell 24:44  Yep. What about you? Lesley Logan 24:45  Okay, he talked about it's too easy to let perfection keep us from taking the steps that we need to take to get done who we want to be, so. Brad Crowell 24:51  Wait, say that one more time. Lesley Logan 24:53  It's too easy to let perfectionist keep, perfectionism keep us from taking the steps we need to take to get done who we want to be. So like. Brad Crowell 24:53  I think it would be better to say to become who we want to be. Lesley Logan 25:03  To become who we want to be, probably. So I couldn't agree more. And he said you're going to make mistakes, and it's really the only way you actually succeed in life. And he said, if you're dealing with mental health condition, he encourages you to call and so a lot of times perfectionism shows up as a sign of imposter syndrome that you're dealing with, but it could also be a way of you controlling things, which can be part of a mental health situation. And so.Brad Crowell 25:26  I mean, it's the same exact, here's a perfect example. If he's the gold standard and you don't live in Los Angeles, then you won't take any action, because you can't get to the best one, right? That is perfectionism. What you could do is take messy action, give them a call and say hey, I don't live there, but.Lesley Logan 25:44  What are my options? Brad Crowell 25:45  What am I, what should, what should we be talking about here and just see if there is a path or some kind of alternate option for you, wherever it is that you live. So. Lesley Logan 25:52  Yeah, I mean, we talk about perfectionism here a lot, and I would just say, don't get mad at the perfectionist tendencies that you have. Use them as a highlighter of where you have work to do, whether that is doing a controlled ketamine treatment to get over this perfectionist issue that you have, or it's how can I get a friend over here who I just envy that they just go for things to help me take a look at this thing that I want to do, because I can borrow a little bit of their imperfection and go-getterness and help you. You know what I mean? Brad Crowell 26:23  It's like a barrier. Perfectionism is a barrier that we throw up to keep ourselves from failure. Lesley Logan 26:33  It is a great excuse for not getting shit done. You are correct, sir. Like, I know a lot of people who will say, oh, it's because I'm perfectionist. That's why I haven't done it. And it's a really good excuse that people will just go, oh, well, that's true.Brad Crowell 26:45  For me, I think it's the other extreme of the concept of, oh, I don't set any goals, because then I can't be let down. If you heard someone say that, you would go, well, that's not how I want to live. Well, the irony is that perfectionism is just the flip side of that coin. We are inadvertently putting roadblocks in the way. We've got to make sure everything's good, because if we don't, then it's going to fail, right? Then I'm going to be let down. Lesley Logan 27:09  I really enjoyed him sharing his stories of how he built everything, because they had to be (inaudible). Even if everything they did around how they controlled the environment for ketamine was exactly to a tee, the way they had to open the business, grow the business, put things together, you know, they had to do it, trying to figure it out, because it didn't exist before. And so a lot of you who are listening have ideas. Brad Crowell 27:30  He said he went to a Radio Shack and bought a burner phone so that they could make sure they had some kind of a (inaudible).Lesley Logan 27:36  I think it was the Radio Shack that, like, is on Santa Monica Boulevard. Brad Crowell 27:36  No it's the other one. That one, you brought up, though. Lesley Logan 27:42  Yeah. I was like, but even if you just listen to this episode to learn from Sam, just getting started with what you have access to that helps you get going, we have to stop allowing ourselves to be like, well, I don't have enough information. I don't have enough of this. I don't have enough this to start, it's affecting your gifts from being enjoyed by the people who it's for. Imagine if Sam and his dad hadn't started in an office because it's not sexy enough, right? So anyways, just do it. That's what he said.Brad Crowell 28:09  Just do it.Lesley Logan 28:10  Yeah, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 28:11  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 28:12  Thank you so much for listening to our episode today. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Are you going to go to KCLA? Please let us know. Tag Sam Mandel. Tag the Be It Pod. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 28:23  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 28:25  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Life's toughest moments often push us toward our greatest transformations. In this episode, Lesley and Brad dive into Lesley's insightful conversation with Stephan Neff, a doctor, author, and podcast host who shares his personal journey through trauma, addiction, and self-discovery. Learn how challenges can reveal your purpose, why taking messy action is key to growth, and how a simple self-hug can shift your mindset.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How trauma and adversity can push you toward personal transformationThe importance of taking action even when it feels hardStephan's journey of loss, grief, and self-discoveryThe power of daily practices like journaling and gratitudeHow a simple self-hug can create a sense of self-acceptance and healingEpisode References/Links:Cambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com Spring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorAccessories Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistStephan Neff Website - https://www.neffinspiration.comSteps to Sobriety by Stephan Neff - https://a.co/d/hHY4w9PDepression Lied To Me by Stephan Neff - https://a.co/d/7s6Ddg0Neff Inspiration Podcast - https://stephanneff.podbean.comStephan Neff YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@neffinspirationStephan Neff Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/neffinspirationStephan Neff Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/neffinspirationStephan Neff LinkedIn - https://beitpod.com/neffonlinkedinEpisode 167: Alan Stein Jr. - https://beitpod.com/ep167 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  By going through trauma and being forced to change, you get outside of your comfort zone. You get to experience fear. And he was sharing that he had a successful life at the Big House, the wife and kids, and on the inside, he was just not a happy person. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the evolving convo I have with Stephan Neff in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, make sure you do after you listen to this one, because it's great. Stephan is really cool, and he's got that New Zealand accent, which is, you know, if you're in the Western world, it's kind of nice. I guess that's the Western world as well. If you're in the United States, an accent is nice. It's, you know, it's different than mine. So anyways, today is March 6th 2025 and it's the Day of the Dude. Brad Crowell 1:26  The Day of the Dude. Lesley Logan 1:27  The Day of the Dude is celebrated on March 6th every year to commemorate the North American release of the movie The Big Lebowski in 1998. The movie portrays a protagonist with a laid back attitude to life, who chooses simplicity, peace and happiness. The idea is to enjoy life's little moments, such as bowling or drinking with some friends. The holiday looks to promote ease and simplicity in society. Being able to easily let things go and go with the flow is big part of the lifestyle. The lifestyle portrayed in the movie inspired the birth of the religion philosophy, known as “Dudeism.” Brad Crowell 2:03  Dudeism.Lesley Logan 2:04  And so you know what, guys, I think we all need to just sit back, go bowl, drink with some friends, and just have a day where you just relax a little bit. I didn't really get the movie. I think that's because I can't relax very well. So I think maybe this is my Day of the Dude. It's Jeff Bridges. And who doesn't love John Goodman?Brad Crowell 2:22  And Steve Buscemi. I mean, it's amazing. Lesley Logan 2:24  Julianne Moore, Sam Elliott, John Turturro. Huge cast, amazing cast. Brad Crowell 2:30  Pretty fantastic. Lesley Logan 2:31  You know. So I think we saw this at the cemetery. We saw The Big Lebowski at the cemetery. Brad Crowell 2:35  Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the cemetery.Lesley Logan 2:36  The one and only time I've ever seen The Big Lebowski. But anyways, my loves part of being it until you see it is resting and relaxing. If you cannot, just have some moments where you go with the flow. Take the Day of the Dude as a reminder to, you know, find some simple ways to enjoy life. Brad Crowell 2:52  So hey, we just got back from Cambodia. Lesley Logan 2:54  We did. A couple days ago. Brad Crowell 2:56  It was an amazing trip. We got a chance to hang with some friends who we basically consider family at this point. Take a bunch of people around to see some of our favorite spots, literally in the world, and we want you to join us on our next trip. Come this October 2025 to see our house and see the life that we've built over there, that we welcome you to stay at our place and tour the temples, do some Pilates, meet some elephants. All the things. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com and in a couple ofweeks.Lesley Logan 3:28  Not even a couple of weeks, I think we're, like, about a week-ish, oh, from this coming out, we're on the, we're probably in Denver at this point. Brad Crowell 3:36  Actually, we may be at P.O.T. Lesley Logan 3:38  We're definitely supposed to be rolling in tonight. Brad Crowell 3:41  Yeah. We're driving.Lesley Logan 3:41  So we're in the Aurora area with the van to see our Balanced Body peeps and our P.O.T. attendee people are here to have some fun. Brad Crowell 3:48  No dogs in this trip. Lesley Logan 3:49  No dogs. We're leaving them at home, mostly because.Brad Crowell 3:52  We're gonna be gone for like eight hours, 10 hours a day. It's tough.Lesley Logan 3:54  Yeah, also, easy, if we took one, not so easy if we take two. So no dogs, but we'll be there. Come say hi to us. March 18th to the 24th, the Accessories Flash Card Deck, the final deck, this is it, guys. It's the last one. It's being presaled. I guess that's now a burp on March 18th to the 24th it's going on presale, which means it'll be 30% off its original price. Doesn't mean it will ship to you the next day. It means you get to wait until it ships, but you get to get the best price. It, we do not do this discount again, and so we really, truly hope that you take advantage of it. So go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist because only those on the waitlist will get the invite to get the discount. You will not see this on Instagram. You will not hear about here again. This is it. Then in April 27th through May 3rd, we have a week long spring training. Yes, our own version of a baseball event, but it's with Pilates, and it's with all the OPC teachers and myself. We've got 10 classes planned over seven days, all different time zone. Yes, there's a limited replay. Yes, it's going to be super affordable. And if you go to opc.me/events and get on the waitlist, you will get invited to the early bird price, which is basically stealing this, this amazing event. And if you're OPC member, it's free, but opc.me/events is the wait list for the early bird price. Brad Crowell 5:11  Yeah. And if you are taking money from a client at all in any way, shape or form, that makes you a business owner, congratulations. Even if you don't see yourself as that, you know, even if it's like a side hobby kind of a thing. Technically, you still are a business owner, and I have a free webinar for you that's called the Accelerator webinar. Come join me at prfit.biz/accelerator, where I'm going to be revealing the three biggest secrets that Lesley and I've learned from coaching more than 2500 businesses just like yours over the past seven years through Agency, our coaching program. So join me at prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. Lesley Logan 5:49  Doesn't that word just make you want to go because it's accelerator. Before we get into Stephan Neff's interview, we have an audience question. Brad Crowell 5:58  Yes, we do. Kara Dowd says, hey, I listened to the podcast. I'm hoping for nuggets of wisdom here, as I am an instructor, wondering the big question of whether I should make the transition to a studio owner. Either way, it's a great podcast. Well, I hope so. What if we told you no, okay, I would still be a good podcast. I'm teasing. Well, thank you for saying that. It's very kind, and we are really glad that you listen. And this is a great question that is really tough for us to answer, because there's a lot of factors involved. That's actually, literally why I host this webinar that we were just talking about. So if you haven't done it yet, Kara, you totally should join me on the Accelerator, where we're talking about, how do we create the right plan for you with your business, because Kara, you have your own goals and your own dreams, and you, choosing to open a studio, it's not like there is one path that you have to take in this career. Every single business owner that we work with has their own desires, their own vision for their business, and we help you sculpt and create that path that allows you to enjoy your business. Because what if you didn't want to open a studio and have the stress of paying rent, and maybe you even have a team and all that's like, what if you're like, why am I doing this? I just want to teach out of my house. You don't need to go open a studio, but you also could, if that was what you wanted to do. Lesley Logan 7:18  But also you could have a studio in an office building, like where the rent is something you could pay in a week of teaching, and so you have the other three weeks for profit and taxes. And because it's in an office building, it's really safe. You don't need anyone else. If you can get the systems in place, you can run it by yourself, like I had a studio by myself. And then our goals changed, and so that studio had to change. My teacher, who I take from, he is solo. So he went from being a renter to actually just open up his own space and doing it himself. So the big transition is, how big is it? It depends. We already have all this equipment. So if we were to transition to a brick and mortar, the big expense is really going to be the building. What do we have to do there? Are we going to buy it? Are we going to just curate it? Are we just going to paint the wall? What are we going to do? So what I would say is actually ask yourself, okay, I have a studio. What does it look like? And make sure you're not picturing someone else's studio. What does your studio look like right now? Like, if I'm picturing, like, what's in our future studio? Like I told Brad, if we're gonna do this again, I really want to have those garage door window doors, for whatever reason I like the idea of an old mechanic shop or some sort of, like old building that looks like it was something else, but now it's this, and I want the higher ceilings. I didn't have high ceilings before. So picture that, and then ask yourself, Is this a studio you are doing by yourself? By the way, you guys, we help people all the time, work by themselves with their own studio, making the money they want to make, and having no extra teacher help. Or do you want to have a big class? Do you like leading people? Do you like managing people? So we can't answer this question on here because we don't know enough about you and what your goals are. And as coaches, one of the things that we're so proud of at Agency is that we actually coach you based on your goals. So we've coached thousands of studios and teachers around the world. And yes, some of the studios have a similar business model, but they all have different goals, and so how they approach what they're doing next depends on that. And so we can't give you a specific answer to your question, but I hope that helps you manifest what you got and then come to the Accelerator event so you can get to know us more and see if we can support you.Brad Crowell 9:19  Yeah, absolutely. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we're going to dig in some amazing action items from Stephan Neff. We'll be right back. All right. Now, let's talk about Stephan Neff. He actually says his name, Stefan with the S-C-H-T. Stephan, and I was like, that's really cool. So Stephan Neff is an anesthetist. He's the author of My Steps to Sobriety. He's a speaker, and he's the host of the Neff Inspiration podcast and YouTube channel. With expertise as a functional medicine specialist, a life coach and yoga instructor, Stephan combines his personal journey with professional insights to help others heal from trauma and addiction. Through radical compassion, mindfulness and proven clinical strategies, he empowers people to build emotional resilience and embrace lifelong wellbeing. Lesley Logan 10:10  But he's just so vulnerable. Brad Crowell 10:12  Yes, he really was. Lesley Logan 10:13  And not in like a vulnerable trauma dumping way, like a vulnerable here's what I did, here's how I fucked up, and here's what I learned from it, and here's how I'm changing my life, and here's how you can.Brad Crowell 10:23  Don't be a trauma dumper. Lesley Logan 10:24  People. Well, you know what? Brene Brown in her book talked about vulnerability and shame, right? And she said vulnerability is not like telling everyone, like, all this stuff until they run away from you. So some people. Brad Crowell 10:34  Yeah, then it becomes like a defense mechanism. Lesley Logan 10:37  Lay their stuff on you and see if you run away. His was like, I found myself going, oh my God. How did you get out of that? Oh my God.Brad Crowell 10:43  Yeah, because I think it was within the last three years that. Lesley Logan 10:46  His whole life changed. Brad Crowell 10:47  Yeah, he crashed. Lesley Logan 10:48  I think it's been longer than that, but he's had more changes since then. And so anyways, he said by going through trauma and being forced to change, you get outside of your comfort zone. You get to experience fear. And he was sharing that he had a successful life with a big house, a wife and kids, and on the inside, he was just not a happy person, and he had these unresolved needs, especially in relationships, and he had unhappiness. And then he said, because you are searching for this purpose in your life, you have not yet found and so he basically talked about, when you have these things happen to you, it forces you to actually go figure out your purpose, because you haven't found it yet, until you're kind of in the wrong place. And you know, we've talked about this before on the podcast, taking away someone else's rock bottom is like a terrible thing to do, because they often need it, you know, they need a lesson, or they need the thing so that they can step into the next iteration of themselves. Brad Crowell 11:38  You know, a reflection point. Lesley Logan 11:39  Not that I'm saying that every bad thing that happens to you just go with it, because it's going to be not like the dude, it sucks when these things happen, but also that hardship and pain you go through, you can learn from it. You can discover what you're here to do on this planet from that information and take it on. And it doesn't have to become your story. It becomes part of the story that you're leading.Brad Crowell 11:59  Yeah, it was an intriguing conversation, because definitely, he's very willing to share the experience that he's gone through. He also has written a whole bunch of books, which is pretty cool too. I mean, the dude's a doctor, right? So he likes to write, apparently. The Day of the Dude. We're just gonna see how (inaudible)The Dude is the doctor.Lesley Logan 12:15  The Dude and everything is The Dude. Brad Crowell 12:18  Well, look, this dude really loved what Stephan said. He said, you have to take action in order to live your life, and the harder it gets, the more action you have to take, which we could not agree with more. When you take messy action, it gives you clarity. It helps create that path that we were talking about. He shared when he lost his wife of 27 years, he never allowed himself to feel loss and grief. He didn't allow himself to feel it. And that was not a win. That was like, he was like, oh, wow, okay. And he just kind of bottled it up. And then he said, actually, the thing that triggered it, that tripped it for him, was a song. And he said, suddenly he was like overwhelmed and overcome by the loss and grief that he experienced, and it really was powerful. He said, despite taking many of the right actions, he had neglected to address those deep emotions. And then with that song, he said it was so beautiful to cry, it was so beautiful to feel whole again because, yes, I can feel whole again even after that loss. I can definitely understand that. Thinking back through my divorce, I remember doubting myself thinking, oh, well, I had my shot. I fucked it up. I guess that was it. He's arguing. No, I can feel whole again. Despite this, he also shared many daily practices of journaling. He said those things that I took for granted, you know, they become my wins. They become my wins list. And this is something we've talked about in the past all the way back at the very beginning of this podcast, where we think it is so important to keep a log of the things that are a win in your life, because it's so easy for us to just focus on beating ourselves up and holding these things. I did this. I did that. I hate myself for this and all this stuff, but we never pull out that card and go but despite all these negative emotions that I have that I'm telling myself, all of these other positive things have happened in my life, so it's so helpful to have a journal of those wins. Lesley Logan 14:16  Yeah, I hope people do it. I just want, we want to. I just want wins to happen all the time. Brad Crowell 14:21  You never know when you're gonna need to read that. Lesley and I, we have been encouraging our clients to post their wins. People feel when they first come into our coaching group, they always feel awkward about it, because it feels like you're bragging, right, and you're sharing it to a bunch of people who you don't know. So are you bragging? Right? But the reality is, it has become the most popular channel in our entire group, because you go there and you just feel that things are possible when you read about this amazing things that have happened for other people in other people's life, because they're taking messy action, because they're trying to figure their way through and then amazing things are happening. It's just so inspiring. So you can even inspire yourself. Lesley Logan 15:05  All the way back to Episode Five. We had someone who was talking about how she, like, kept track at the end of her day about her wins. And then we had Alan Stein Jr. somewhere around episode 100-something, and he talked about how at the end of every day he asked himself, what were his wins for the day, and so this podcast celebrates him on Friday. But, my goodness, can you figure out a way to celebrate every day? What did you do? Like, I washed my hair today. Brad Crowell 15:29  That's a win. Lesley Logan 15:29  That's a win. I'm telling you. I have been putting it off for three days. Brad Crowell 15:33  I did mine last night. Lesley Logan 15:34  Yeah, you look so good. You know what? Stop making it difficult to achieve a win in your life, because otherwise, life is already just hard.Brad Crowell 15:42  Yeah, graduating from college, that's definitely a win, no question about it. But it takes years to get to that point when you can finally say, I graduated, right? There are smaller wins along the way that you can definitely take note of.Lesley Logan 15:53  My senior year, one of the counselors used to have a dry erase board that they showed out their window and how I had to walk to class I don't pass this thing. Brad Crowell 16:00  They put a message on it? Lesley Logan 16:01  They put a message on it, and one day it said, every class, every day. And that was like our mantra, to show up to every class every day. We're like, we can do it. Every class, every day. And every day that we went to every class, we're like, oh, let's go get a latte we did it. So Brad, did you know I cut class? I knew exactly how many classes I could miss in a school year to still graduate with my honor. So I was like, I can miss this third period because I haven't missed it in a while, and I can. So anyways, figure out what the wins can be and make them small and achievable so that you actually start to give yourself the confidence. And I love that Stephan shared that with us, because I think we need that reminder. Brad Crowell 16:38  Yeah, all right, so finally, let's talk about those, Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Stephan Neff? He explained, for many, gratitude does not come naturally. He said it's a practice, so it's a privilege to be here, be grateful, and practice that. It's a privilege. Then he said the most important bit is to finally stop for a moment and actually try to figure out who you want to be when you grow up. Lesley Logan 17:06  I know, and we're all still growing up, but we're 42 I know someone who's 62 and I was like, oh, that's I have so much time between now and then. Who do I want to be by then? I think it's cool. Brad Crowell 17:15  He said, create that dream in your mind who you actually want to be when you grow up. Change your dream to a vision by becoming very, very, very, very clear. Once you've nailed it down, go to that next feature until your dream has become a very clear vision. Lesley Logan 17:28  I can still hear his lovely accent saying, he's saying that he's so passionate about each of these Be It Action Items. He was so like into this whole section. Brad Crowell 17:35  I know you said New Zealand. I swear I thought he was from Germany. Lesley Logan 17:38  No, he's New Zealand. Brad Crowell 17:39  He's in New Zealand. He mentioned Germany. Lesley Logan 17:42  I know. I'm quite positive because of the time difference. It was like a whole different day. Brad Crowell 17:48  Okay, well, oh yeah, you know what, you mentioned, I think he was traveling to Gisborne. You did mention Gisborne. Lesley Logan 17:57  Gisborne. Brad Crowell 17:58  Gisborne, I don't know how to say it. Lesley Logan 18:00  Gisborne. I don't think the R is as emphasized as we do it. Brad Crowell 18:06  Emphasized.Lesley Logan 18:06  So anyways, emphasized. Brad Crowell 18:07  Yes, it's the place that they have the first light of the day every day. What about you? Let's get back to our Be It Action Items here. Lesley Logan 18:15  My biggest takeaway was give yourself a hug and spend 15 seconds with yourself after. So, let's do that.Brad Crowell 18:23  Yeah, let's do it right now. Lesley Logan 18:24  Close your eyes.Brad Crowell 18:25  So his hug was like, pretend you can bear hug yourself. So the biggest wrap around your shoulders that you could possibly do, and we're closing our eyes and we're going to do 15 seconds here. Lesley Logan 18:35  Squeeze hard as you can and tell yourself I love you. So, ready? Squeeze. I love you. I love you. 1001, 1002, 1003, do we hug? Do we stop hugging after 15 seconds? Or do we hug and then we spend 15 seconds?Brad Crowell 18:49  Just hug yourself. Lesley Logan 18:50  Okay, well, I'm trying to. Brad Crowell 18:51  Just hug. Just hug. Two, one, awesome. He said he's super good. He's known for giving bear hugs to his friends, but he realized he never gives a bear hug to himself, and I just got chills. I literally just got chills right now. Lesley Logan 19:08  I feel so good. I feel like I could end the day. It feels amazing. So. Brad Crowell 19:12  He said accept who you are, squeeze as hard as you can and tell yourself I love you.Lesley Logan 19:16  Okay, everyone, let us know if you gave yourself a hug. Make sure to tag Stephan. Tag the Be It Pod. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 19:22  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 19:23  Thank you so much for listening to us today. Thank you so much for sharing our podcast with your friends. Thank you for your reviews. They really mean the world to us. And make sure that you share your wins with us. You can start celebrating your wins by sending it to us. Brad Crowell 19:36  Yeah, text us. Lesley Logan 19:37  Yeah, that's exactly, or DM us or whatever, you know how to do it. We'll figure it out. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 19:43  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 19:45  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 20:28  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 20:33  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 20:37  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 20:44  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 20:47  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week's guest is Erik Udstuen (https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-udstuen-00000), Co-founder and CEO of TwinThread. Erik shares insights from his 30+ years in industrial software, discussing how AI and digital twins are transforming manufacturing by standardizing data, optimizing operations, and driving operational excellence. He also dives into the challenges of industrial data standards, the importance of empowering engineers with no-code/low-code tools, and why AI must go beyond insights to deliver real-time, actionable recommendations on the shop floor. Augmented Ops is a podcast for industrial leaders, citizen developers, shop floor operators, and anyone else that cares about what the future of frontline operations will look like across industries. This show is presented by Tulip (https://tulip.co/), the Frontline Operations Platform. You can find more from us at Tulip.co/podcast (https://tulip.co/podcast) or by following the show on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/augmentedpod/). Special Guest: Erik Udstuen.

Ashes, ashes, we all...avoid being Erdmans! What about lent and Ash Wednesday and why are they a "thing" (if only a small thing) in Presbyterian and Reformed churches in the 21st century? We examine these questions with Dr. D.G. Hart (a scholar and OPC ruling elder), PCA pastor Jacob Gerber, and Kevin White, an ecclesially well-traveled polymath.  Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxIXlAFhUnI

As February wraps up, Lesley shares an inspiring story about a supportive community standing in for those without affirming family members, celebrates a powerful win from a Cambodia retreat attendee, and reflects on her own transformative experience. Tune in for a reminder to embrace life's adventures and boldly step into what's next.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The heartwarming initiative by Zombie Dan to stand in for those without affirming family support.The power of investing in yourself and making space for transformative experiences.Ainsley's journey from attending her first Cambodia retreat to embracing personal growth in her second experience.The joy of connecting with like-minded individuals and creating deep, meaningful friendships.How movement, reflection, and intention-setting shape a more fulfilled life.Lesley's realization that playing small isn't an option and her renewed commitment to big goals.Episode References/Links:The Zombie Dan - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCza8QXua8q/ If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Lesley Logan 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:05  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:47  Hello, Be It babe. Welcome to the last Friday episode of February. How are you? How was February for you? Are you freaking out? It's like time flying by. Is it happening? My goodness, please be kind to yourself. Okay? You got to. If you're not kind to you, how are you going to get other people to be kind to you? Like how are we going to do that? It's an actual question. I'd love for you to tell me. So okay, I'm looking up my thing that inspired me, and I'm super excited about this. So there was this person, his name is Zombie Dan on Instagram. And I don't know a ton about Zombie Dan. I'm sorry I didn't do a ton of research, but I was obsessed with this reel when it came upon my feed. And so this person was like, my family didn't celebrate me when I got engaged to my girlfriend. And so obviously it's like a LGBTQ relationship, and she's not being supported. And Zombie Dan shares like, Hi, I'm Zombie Dan. I and this other group of people, we are going to be, we can be the father that walks you down the aisle. We can be the older brother. We can be the mother. We can go to dress shoppings with you. We can do these things. And they stand in the gap. They stand in place of anyone who's not affirming in your family. I'm obsessed with this. I think it is so cool. So the link to if you are someone who's I need someone to stand in place of a family member who's unaffirming of my life, I highly recommend checking out what Zombie Dan is doing. So it's the_zombie_dan and we'll put the link in the bio. I don't know who Zombie Dan is. We've never met, but I just am, I think people are so cool. And what I love about this so much is that people like him are so full of love, and they're like, how can I share this love that we have for others? Wasn't that cool? Isn't that amazing? I know you're like, oh, but it's not, people might be like, well, it's not their dad. It's not about that. It's about them having people surrounding them who appreciate and affirm who they are and whom they love, right? That's what it's about, that's about being surrounded by those people and not being alone at those significant times in your life. And so thank you, Zombie Dan, for what you created and for the people that you've brought together for this. I think it's so freaking cool, and it just blew my mind. Aren't people amazing? They are amazing. So that just truly inspired me. Lesley Logan 2:59  All right. So now your win. Okay, so I chose a win from Ainsley. We've heard wins from her before, but I chose her win because it actually is from when she was flying home from the Cambodian retreat. And she has done our Cambodian retreat two times. And I thought, like, her win is so beautiful. This is coming out on the day that I'm ending my Cambodian retreat in the February one. And so I just wanted to relive her wins, but also share what is possible when you take a week for yourself. So Ainsley Walker, she wrote, I'm at the end of LL and Brad's stunning Cambodia retreat. I'm sitting at the Bangkok airport, letting all that's happened the past few days absorb and oh my goodness, so, so many wins. So here's a few, and I'll try to keep it brief. I gifted myself this trip for my birthday. I made it happen. I deliberately accepted the extra clients, knowing they were my way in. When they came, I felt even more excited to see them. This is my second time to Cambodia with LL and Brad. That's a massive win, right there. I got so much more out of it the second time. I'm in a much better place. The first time was wonderful, but the second time pure joy for me. I have absolutely loved the consistency of moving daily and found group energy so motivating. I'm committed to keep it up. Each and every person on the trip made it special. It was beautiful, hanging out with my gorgeous eLevate peeps, chatting and having fun. I loved in the last day, my body allowed me to take it into rocking. It showed me how much stretch and connection it has made in the last year, and allowed me to lift my leg in a leg pool front, I've been working on these all year. And after a lovely chat with Lisa, I'm inspired to find a new one-to-one classical teacher to keep progressing. Another amazing chat with Mandy, and we will move together and join her moving group when possible. This week, I fully realized how all my hard work and investment on myself, my goals, has paid off. I felt like a different person this year, calm and confident, happy, so happy. It took work commitment, but I am inspired to keep investing in myself, sitting under the waterfall where Lesley and I squealed and screamed out loud, but you could not hear as the rush of water was so loud, has to be one of the highlights, and so liberating, but so many more to list. Standing out in the warm rain with my gorgeous eLevate friend Nancy, we laughed so hard. My cup feels full to overflowing. I'm re-energized, excited, feeling strong, and also nourished with amazing fresh food and so many good memories. I'm now ready to get back to my family and clients and implement all the great workshop takeaways I have. Thank you, LL and Brad for taking me on this amazing trip. And then she finishes this up with, so I'm 10 days back from Cambodia, and jet lag has finally subsided. Not sure why it felt like it took so long. Since Cambodia, I've moved every day with self-practice at 6:30 am. I am taking time to implement everything that came up in our workshops. It's feeling so positive. I booked an hour with myself this weekend to look at all I wrote down to keep it in my life. One client who came to me for balance issues after a stroke was doing moves this week that I had in mind on their first session. This week, we celebrated him doing them, knowing we have far more to go. He left so tall and strong compared to when I met him. By Saturday and Thursday, my classes are full, and I will work on the spaces in the other couple. I've moved with the Wednesday eLevate group this week, too. I mean, my goodness, Ainsley, these wins, these wins. I love the follow up to this win with the 10 days later, because, you know, we come back from things and we're like, I'm going to do this and this, when I get home, I'm going to keep going with this. I'm going to do this. And then life happens. Things get real busy, and then we don't. We lose the momentum, or we lose this stamina, we forget we wrote down, and I love that she re-followed up with it, and she was so intentional, and her intentionality is why she is doing what she's doing. I mean, I saw her and Nancy standing under the rain in Cambodia just laughing. They were just like, loving it, and it was so beautiful to watch. I was like, I'll stand in the rain filming them, just because it's so fun to watch. And I just share all this with you, because every time I do a retreat in Cambodia, I am more grounded than I ever could and I'm so inspired by those that come. Lesley Logan 7:01  This particular Cambodia retreat, so my win, was one of our smaller ones. We just started doing the February retreats again. And you know, it's not always the time of year that people think about traveling, but my goodness, I hope you do. You can actually sign up for our October one, but if February is a better time for you to travel, I hope you join us. So it's a smaller group, and so I got to really connect with some of our amazing people. So half the group I didn't know, and the other half the group I've known for a long time, either they've been OPC member for a long time, or agency, eLevate member for a long time. So it was really cool to connect people I've known for a long time to people I've never met, and spend a week just together. And when you're an adult, you don't often get to meet strangers, let alone get to know them in a deep level. And it was just so fun to get to spend a week with these amazing women and get to know them on a deep level, support them and hold space for them, because they are doing powerful things for so many people, and also because I'm someone who likes to observe myself and others as things are going on. Like I learned so much more about who I am and what I want out of this next year and this next life. And don't really celebrate or create new year's resolutions, I'm just like, here are my intentions for the year. And the thing that I missed, I didn't realize how much I missed it, is we used to go to Cambodia in Q1 all the time, and it was a great time for me to really see, like, did the intention I set for this year, does it feel like it sticks, or does it need some changes? And being able to go back and have that time to go, oh yeah, no, the intentions for this year are exactly what I wanted, and also I can tweak them and make them better. I can make them bigger. Sometimes we're afraid we'll fail, so we set the bar a little lower for ourselves, and that is not going to be this year. No way. I got things to do and people to support and lives to change, and can't do that playing small. So my win is just being able to absorb love and generosity and kindness and community of this last week on this retreat, and seeing, seeing this beautiful world through the eyes of those who have not been there before, and it was just really freaking fun. So anyways, I'll be back. I'll be back from Cambodia next time you hear me. Lesley Logan 9:07  So, oh my God, what a mantra to pull. I just drew this. I pulled it out of a pile. And it says your mantra for the week. On to the next adventure. Ah, on to the next adventure. On to the next adventure. I hope you are on to your next adventure, and you can be right now in this moment to state that. You can actually start the day all over. On to the next adventure. Well, that's me, and that's you, too, because my loves, this episode has come to an end, and we are on to the next adventure. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 9:40  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 10:22  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 10:27  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 10:32  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 10:39  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 10:42  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Tap into your inner wisdom with Christina Deering, a shaman, healer, and intuitive business coach. In this episode, Lesley and Brad break down Christina's insights on aligning with your highest self, overcoming limiting beliefs, and using intuitive tools like pendulums and tapping. Discover how to embrace daydreaming as a manifestation technique and reprogram your mindset for success.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Understanding your highest self as an extension of your soul.Breaking free from limiting beliefs and societal conditioning.Using intuitive tools like pendulums and tapping for clarity.The power of daydreaming as a manifestation tool.Aligning your energy with your goals for greater success.Recognizing and shifting emotional vibrations for better decision-making.Episode References/Links:Cambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com Spring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorAccessories Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistChristina Deering Website: https://www.christinadeering.comChristina's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/iamchristinadeeringFree Gift - 5 Min Energy Reset - https://beitpod.com/energyreset If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy WebinarResources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  I think, also, to giving yourself permission to know that that was a possibility.Lesley Logan 0:05  It's not a waste of time. Brad Crowell 0:06  Well, it's not a waste of time to daydream, letting yourself daydream, let yourself visualize, give yourself the spaciousness to connect with the things that feel exciting. But also, I think it's the counterbalance to this internal monolog that we have, that everything's gonna crash around us. It's all coming to an end.Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the intuitive convo I have with Christina Deering in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now and go back and listen, or stay here and then listen later. You can do both, because she's an intuitive so you're going to want to do both.Today is February 27th 2025 and it's Introduce a Girl to Engineering Day, a significant day. Introduce a Girl to Engineering Day is marked annually at the end of February during engineering week. This year, it takes place on February 27th. This day was founded by the National Society of Professional Engineers (N.S.P.E.) in 1951. According to N.S.P.E., didn't you love that? I like to discover things as we're.Brad Crowell 1:52  That's news to me.Lesley Logan 1:53  I like, learn this as you're learning it, everyone.Brad Crowell 1:56  She clearly previews all the work that goes into these show notes.Lesley Logan 2:03  Oh my God. Engineering Week aims to ensure a diverse and well-educated future engineering workforce by increasing understanding of and interest in engineering and technology careers. I just want to say.Brad Crowell 2:14  That was written by an engineer.Lesley Logan 2:16  Totally wise and you can't say engineering week and describe it as a like a definition, and then use engineering in the definition of what the week is. You gotta, I don't actually think I know what engineering is so. Did you know since the origins of STEM fields in the 18th century (the Age of Enlightenment) have remained predominantly male? Yeah, we knew this. It's a burgeoning issue calling for an urgent redress. One of the main ways that this is being done is through the creation of scholarships for women. So I think that's so cool. There was a model who had like, coder weeks. Is coding engineering?Brad Crowell 2:56  Yeah, we can, it's a form of engineering. Yeah. Lesley Logan 2:58  Is engineering anything to do with computers? Brad Crowell 3:00  Well, there are software engineers. But, yes, engineers could be structural engineers or mechanical engineers or, you know, aviation has engineering.  Lesley Logan 3:11  So this is not a niche week. Brad Crowell 3:13  No, I think it's general. You could have software engineers who are developers. Sure.Lesley Logan 3:17  Here's the thing. Clearly, I wasn't introduced to engineering during Engineering Week when I was a child, even though it was started in 1951 so we have lots of work to do and.Brad Crowell 3:26  I wonder if architects are considered engineers, or how does that work? Do they work together? I mean, you know, they're building. An engineer would build a bridge.Lesley Logan 3:35  Yeah, yeah, right, exactly. So then maybe Meridith's partner is an engineer. So we know engineers.Brad Crowell 3:42  Well, he is, he's a mechanical, no, he's a structural engineer. Can't remember. Yeah, we know engineers.Lesley Logan 3:47  We love you. There's one in our family. We should know.So anyways, I just thought this was a really cool holiday. When Brad was showing me the holidays, I thought it was a cool holiday because, obviously, when we expose people to different jobs that they could do, we actually bring in really cool experiences into those jobs. And engineers are, obviously, have a vast amount of things that they could work in and that are necessary. And so life experiences that are different than others are really important. And so here's to Introduce a Girl to Engineering Day. I too was just introduced. So there we go. All right, so as you listen to this, we are in Cambodia.Brad Crowell 4:26  Right now, as you are listening. We are so excited.Lesley Logan 4:29  Oh my gosh. And also, the people who are coming, I'm just excited for this week that we're having with them. So anyways, you guys have to join us in October. Seriously, I know that you've got a lot on your plate. You got a lot going on. October feels like, a far way away, but we, actually, it's not. And it's the perfect time to just have something in your Q4 to look forward to. So go to crowsnestretreats.com and join us, because we want to spend a week with you. We want to retreat from the chaos of this world and just sweat and do Pilates and breath work and see temples. And Lotus farms and eat good food.Brad Crowell 5:03  Yeah, it's, I mean, elephants, friends, make friends. It's, you know, explore a city.Lesley Logan 5:08  You don't have to come with a friend. You can come by yourself, because we, we'll provide the friends.Brad Crowell 5:13  Yeah, we do. You're guaranteed a friend.Lesley Logan 5:17  You are. You've got a friend in me.Brad Crowell 5:21  Well, in March, a month from now, we will be a P.O.T. in Denver, Colorado. P.O.T is Pilates on Tour, if you're not familiar, although I. Lesley Logan 5:30  It's sold out. Brad Crowell 5:31  I think it's sold out.Lesley Logan 5:32  Yeah, it's sold out. Can't come. Well, last time we checked, we were, I think they had a couple spots on Sunday, which we'll be there for. I'm teaching every single day. I'm keynoting.Brad Crowell 5:42  I know. Keynote speaker, Lesley.Lesley Logan 5:46  Oh my God. So anyways, you'll come if you can, and if there's spots, if not, we'll see you in Chicago. But also in March, Brad doesn't know this yet, March 18th through the 24th is the Accessories Flash Dard presale. See, Meridith and I just scheduled it right now.Brad Crowell 6:04  What?Lesley Logan 6:06  Yes and so the date has been set. Only those on the waitlist are going to get the invite. So you need to go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, and that is going to get you the opportunity to get this, the latest and last deck, 30% off. And by the way, the Accessory Deck is for all the bodies, everybody. And we're going to have a lot of fun celebrating who got the cards, Meridith and I have a bunch of tricks and things planned up our sleeve, but you have to be on the waitlist to hear about it. So sorry. So opc.me/flashcardwaitlist.Brad Crowell 6:40  Yeah, but you get the hook up by being on it. So do it. Get yourself over there. All right, next up in April. Guess what, y'all? OPC is gonna be doing a spring training in April. This is gonna be April 27th through May. 3rd. Ten events across a week. You're gonna be able to join us virtually no matter where you are, whether you're watching them live or watching replays.Lesley Logan 7:03  You don't have to have Pilates experience to join us. You don't have to have equipment. There's going to be options for a mat only track, and then equipment plus mat track and Meridith and I did the math. Well, Meridith did the math. I'll just, why am I taking credit? It's like $6 per class if you have the mat ticket or something like that. So, you know, it's such a steal. Anyways, so opc.me/events gets you on to the waitlist, because those on the waitlist will get the early bird price. Those not on the waitlist will get to pay the full price, which is still a good deal, but on the waitlist, it's a great price.Brad Crowell 7:37  Yeah, it's a steal. It's a steal for the early bird. It's still an amazing deal.Lesley Logan 7:41  OPC members. Will get it for free. So if you want it for free, be an OPC member.Brad Crowell 7:46  Yeah, but to get on the waitlist for all that go to opc.me/events or just put it in your calendar right now, April 27th through May 3rd, just mark it off and be like OPC Spring Training. It's going to be super fun. We're doing spring training this year instead of summer camp. Okay? To be honest, people, I, we were getting confused between summer tour and summer camp. So we said this is dumb. Why don't we not make it a summer thing?Lesley Logan 8:11  We have a spring, summer, winter, and then, I guess, retreat in the fall. But it's not fall weather in Cambodia.Brad Crowell 8:19  So technically.Lesley Logan 8:20  But it's in the fall but it's not a fall event, so we're only doing three events.Brad Crowell 8:25  It's going to be amazing. It's going to be amazing. Anyway, go to opc.me/events. Okay, finally, if you are taking money from a client and teaching them Pilates or yoga or whatever, if you are a fitness business owner in that way, I want you to come join me for a free webinar. Lesley and I have been teaching, coaching fitness business owners just like you, for more than seven years now. I can't believe Agency is seven years old. I'm doing a free webinar called Studio Growth Accelerator. So if you want to learn the three biggest secrets that we have learned from coaching more than 2500 people, come join me. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O, dot biz slash accelerator and come join me for free.All right, before we move on, here, we have an audience question from Jennifer Carbone. She asks does the Arkantos Pilates chair, Split-pedal stability combo chair with handles, does it work for your workouts?Lesley Logan 9:28  Here's what I appreciate. I appreciate how specific she told me.Brad Crowell 9:32  I think she copied the names off the website.Lesley Logan 9:34  I mean, clearly, I think so too. So I think that for anyone listening who's just like, what did he just say? Do split-pedal combo chairs work for my workout? Brad Crowell 9:44  Is this one or two pieces of equipment?Lesley Logan 9:46  Well, it's, well, it's two. So most.Arkantos Pilates chair is different from the split-pedal stability combo chair?No, no, it's that chair. And then nope, that's not her chair. That's our chair. So it's like that, but it's a combo chair with handles. They're just using all the SEO terms to make the name of the thing. It's just, it's a bunch of marketing. So at any rate, yes.Brad Crowell 10:06  Oh yeah, she copied it straight off from Amazon. Lesley Logan 10:08  So yeah, she did. Okay. So, wow, this is a very cheap price. Okay, guys, you're getting, like, real time. Oh my god, the marketing on it just grosses me out. So here's the deal. Brad Crowell 10:19  Look, it does use springs. Lesley Logan 10:21  No, no, it's fine. So here's the thing, if you have a combo chair, a high chair, Wunda chair combo that has the handles, take the handles off. So I don't really care about the brand, take the handles off. We won't use them on a Wunda chair class. But then you can use the chair as a Wunda chair. And I can tell from this split-pedal that it can be locked. So it's a single pedal, so just lock it in place. And then the thing about Wunda chair exercises is that the spring tensions, like this one has four springs, so I'm imagining it has a light and a heavy. Yeah, that has a little lock, so it has a light and a heavy. So what I'm going to say is I don't know why they call them gears on this guy, someone is copying a reformer and making a Wunda chair. So okay, ignore the gears on this chair, but I'm just gonna talk about Wunda chairs in general. If there's not a classical Wunda chair, if it has a split pedal, if it has handles, ditch the handles. Make sure you don't split the pedal. So it's a single pedal. And then you pick the spring that tension that actually supports your body. So meaning, if I say it's a top bottom spring for me, but your fun size, it might be a middle bottom. Or if you're heavier, it might be a little higher. So you always have to choose the right spring tension for you in a Wunda chair class. But my teachers at OPC and I always give suggestions that you can start moving with. And if you have, you're an OPC member, you can also take a video of you doing an exercise on your chair, and go, am I doing this right? And we can go, oh, you don't look like you have enough spring tension. Oh, it looks like you have too much. Oh, you might need a block to make the floor rise up. So we will give you personalized feedback. But in general, anything that's an actual Wunda chair will work. So if it's combo chair, knock the handles off. That is.Brad Crowell 12:00  Just knock them off. Lesley Logan 12:01  Yeah, if they don't come off.Brad Crowell 12:03  No, they will. I'm sure they'll come off. Lesley Logan 12:05  They look like they remove. Brad Crowell 12:06  Yeah, they remove, yeah, they can just unscrew it to take them out.Lesley Logan 12:09  Yeah. I had someone correct me, not correct me, but give me more information, because I have a video about how I don't like folding reformers. And I said, I don't like them because all these different things. And people go, well, this company has a $900 one that folds, and it has all the things you want. And I looked at it, and it does. It uses springs. It has a foot bar that lowers down. It still has ropes with high I don't like that. And the thing that gets me concerned when things are made folding, that you're actually they will have springs and you're gonna stand on, is I get concerned about weight restrictions. I get concerned of when the person made this, did they actually know all the Pilates exercises are going to go on it? Because sometimes they don't. A lot of people, engineers will just.Brad Crowell 12:51  Engineers Lesley Logan 12:52  Engineers will. Hey.Brad Crowell 12:54  Hey. Lesley Logan 12:55  And this is not an offense to them. But they'll go, oh, we can make this cheaper by using this and this instead, and this instead. And all of a sudden, you take a piece of equipment that is heavy for a reason, because the moves you're going to do are rolling on it and moving on it and lifting your legs. And you need the piece of equipment to be durable enough, heavy enough to support your body moving around on top of it. So I cannot attest to any folding reformer that isn't going to come from a company that I've already worked with. I got to try things on because I don't want to get hurt. I also don't want you to spend $1,000 on something that might not be the thing you need, or might restrict you from exercises you really want to do. Brad Crowell 13:33  Or it just might not be the same quality.Lesley Logan 13:35  Right. If the reformer isn't high enough off the floor, you cannot do pull straps, you know what I mean? So there's just exercise you get limited. If it's too high off the ground, it can affect things. So I get, like, equipment's expensive. We just place an order and we're just like, whoo, okay. But please, please, please, please, please, just consider what you're letting go of and do your research or save up for the thing that you need. That's what I would say. So anyways, I hope you take class with us. That's a great chair. We'll see. Here we go.Brad Crowell 14:01  Awesome. All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this amazing conversation you have with Christina Deering.Okay, now let's talk about Christina Deering. A shaman, healer, a business intuitive and the host of You Unlimited podcast, Christina is dedicated to helping spiritual entrepreneurs confidently grow their businesses. A former marketing professional for 15 years, she explores modalities like breath work and Reiki, which led her to discover her true calling in shamanism. Today, she blends deep healing practices with practical strategies, enabling clients to overcome imposter syndrome and step into their full potential. On her podcast, You Unlimited, Christina delves into personal growth and the transformative power of intuitive guidance.Lesley Logan 14:45  Yeah. So I think she was just so sweet. I just really liked her. Yeah. I was on her podcast, and so that was a lot of fun. We had a great conversation there. And I was like, well, I want to hear more about over here. We got to give away one of her masterminds on tour. She's just such a generous person.Brad Crowell 14:58  Oh yes, connecting the dots. Lesley Logan 14:59  So I really love when she talked about turning into your soul's alignment. She said our highest self, based on what we channeled, that's our soul. So we are tapping into our soul. So what does your soul desire most to do? And she shared like, our goal is to live in alignment with our soul. And I actually think that this is so hard.Brad Crowell 15:16  This is the one you were talking about, like, what is the highest self? What does that even mean? And I thought it was good to help define that, because I really appreciated Christina's pragmatic approach to calling herself a shaman. Because I'm like, uh, the hell is a shaman?Lesley Logan 15:31  There are some shamans. And I'm like, are you a shaman? You know.Brad Crowell 15:35  Well, you know she was talking about at the beginning. She was like, yeah. So when I was suggested that I look into becoming a shaman, because I'm being called into being a shaman, she was like, let me Google what is a shaman? And I was laughing because I was like, I was Googling what is a shaman. That was pretty funny. So when she's talking about her, anyway, I appreciated her sincerity there. But you know, she's talking about what is the highest self, and she says, that's like, tapping into your soul.Lesley Logan 16:00  Yeah. So when people say, like, thinking about your higher self, or what would your higher self want to do? What is it you do here? That's what your soul is. And I think that's kind of a cool way to think about it. I never thought of my highest self and my soul being the same thing. And now that I say it out loud, it sounds pretty obvious. So, you know. I don't know. I just, you know, you just think of them as two separate things. I have a higher self. I guess I think of the highest self as my future. I've got my shit together self and my soul is like this deep, like, burning magic.Brad Crowell 16:33  Your higher self is like, who you hope you'll end up being one day? That's kind of how I've always thought of it, too.Lesley Logan 16:38  Yeah. But when she describes it like this, it's, oh, well, if my. It's like, what's happening now.Brad Crowell 16:42  It's like, what's happening now. Lesley Logan 16:42  Yeah, well, if it's my higher self is my soul, then I actually don't have another thing I've got to figure out how to be. I could just actually tap into my soul and then I get to be my highest self.Brad Crowell 16:51  Because I am that right now. Lesley Logan 16:52  Yeah, this is. Brad Crowell 16:55  I think we just broke the world. Lesley Logan 16:57  I think, I think. Brad Crowell 16:58  We just, we just solved the riddle of the meaning of life.  Lesley Logan 17:00  I feel I've, you know, I, It's really great. So anyways, she advised tap into your soul by using tools like pendulums or intuition exercises. And we actually got to talk about like the pendulums and intuitive exercises. And I find just sitting down for me and for my red light can really help me and just breathe, can really help me get myself calm enough to actually go into thinking about a pendulum or an intuitive exercise, like you kind of have to calm down first and then use some tools. But I think that there's a lot of different tools that one can use. I also think I get the best ideas in the shower or on a morning walk, you know, like the sun is rising. So there's, I think maybe the thing that you all can do from this is, like, figure out, like, when do you feel like you're the closest to tapping into your soul or your higher self? And can you practice that so you can always use it as a tool when you need it.Brad Crowell 17:50  Yeah, she was talking a lot about spiritual-led entrepreneurialism, the distinction she talked about with your brain versus your higher self, I thought was interesting in that she said, often our brain starts us down these, what if problems or these I got to figure this out problem, or this problem, problem, problem, we're like creating all this unnecessary stuff that we have to think through. And she said, the mind is meant to serve the heart and soul. It's not there to create unnecessary problems, but we let ourselves go down that path. So I just thought it was interesting and but also she was talking about the pendulum thing, you know, holding the pendulum and asking questions. And I didn't quite follow that entire exercise.Lesley Logan 18:29  Okay, guess what? E-Squared. She has a, in the book E-Squared, we talked about many, many moons ago on this podcast, but she talks about taking a wire hanger and you twist it so it's at an angle, and then you're just supposed to hold it, and you can ask questions, and it will turn one way to answer yes or no. It's kind of crazy. So the pendulum is like that wire hanger. It's like something that is connected to the energy of your body, and it kind of will answer the question over your head. It's like, what you want. It's, okay, I know we just really got somewhere weird. I will pull the book out Brad, and we can look at the chapter.Brad Crowell 19:06  Hey, look, we're like a 1.75 woo here.Lesley Logan 19:09  I know (inaudible), I, but it's a really interesting thing. I even looked this practice up on because I was like, What is she saying? I don't think I'm understanding how to make this wire hanger, and also, who has wire hanger? So I didn't want to screw it up. I had one wire hanger, and I Googled on YouTube, and this woman did it on camera. She's just holding this thing, and then she's holding it away that her fingers cannot manipulate the wire so, like she's holding it, and the wire hanger is just like moving to, yeah, it's really strange. So we'll do it. We'll do it.Brad Crowell 19:39  Okay, I'm in. One thing I really loved was she talked about breaking through self-imposed limitations. Actually, now that I say that, I don't think they're necessarily self-imposed, it could be like societal limitations, parental, you know, limitations or friends or expectations that are just placed on us by our surroundings, environment, like the things that we're doing. And she said, when we are trying to pursue, you know, and connect with our higher self, our soul, it may be that we're bumping into these barriers, that this box that we put ourselves in, that's tough, you know. It's tough because, first off, it's hard to identify that you're bumping into these walls if you don't even realize that they're there. But also, how do we identify them? And how do we change that programming? You know, how do we walk away from something that has been ingrained in us for our whole lives? Whatever that might be, that could be a religious faith, or it could be, I don't know, just something where you're feeling trapped.Lesley Logan 20:37  It's interesting because you had said self-imposed, and you're like, actually, it's all these things. I think we impose things on ourselves based on what we've picked up is the right, in air quotes, the right thing to do, or the expected thing to do. And so you kind of learn like, oh, I get in trouble in class when I make this noise, so I'm not going to make that noise anymore. You tap your foot a lot teachers today, one of the girls we work out with, she has kids who need to dance while they're doing the work, so she has them in the back of the room so they can do their work. And they literally dance and do their work. And as long as they are in the back of the room, not distracting people, it's not a problem. But back when you were in school, they would be like in trouble for tapping. And that means that, first of all, you (inaudible).Brad Crowell 21:19  I bet I would have been considered a dancer, because I was not, I was flipping around in my chair.Lesley Logan 21:24  But the point is, is that when you're a kid, you learn, oh, I get in trouble. It's bad to do these things. And so then you start to change who you are. And then if you don't have anyone who gives you permission to be who you are when you're younger, it becomes this thing you take all the way to your adulthood, and you don't realize, oh, I've been posing all these rules and stories on myself, that didn't come from you in the first place.Brad Crowell 21:45  Brad Crowell 21:45   it's actually, yeah, yeah, or, that's right, or it's a learned behavior. One of the things we talk about all the time, and I just couldn't come up with the example a few minutes ago, was the way we see money.Lesley Logan 21:56  Oh, yeah. Brad Crowell 21:56  Our money mindset is how we like to say, but the money mindset, the way that we are coming into that conversation, we are bringing with us a bunch of baggage that most likely we don't even know where it came from, you know, and we really have to truly sift back through our inner thoughts and childhood to understand, why do we act the way we act around money, or have this relationship with it. So it's interesting and it's challenging to identify these walls. So anyway, I thought that was really great. I think it's really important. When you start to ask yourself, why, I think, actually, that's a great way to start to identify, why do I hold why do I see this, the way that I see this? Why?Lesley Logan 22:34  Gay Hendricks would say, he would go, hmm.Brad Crowell 22:38  Hmm, I like that.Lesley Logan 22:39  I wonder why. And that's what he would always say. He always says, I wonder, I wonder. I don't even think I can see it, I wonder.Brad Crowell 22:46  He's got a tattoo that says it on her hand.Lesley Logan 22:48  But he says, the important thing is the hum, hmm, I wonder why. And he said, the hmm does something to the brain. I forgot. Gay, I'm sorry I forgot what it does, but it does something to the brain that turns on this part of where you think about things, and then the I wonder opens up curiosity versus, why do I do this? It's like, I wonder. You can't be mad, you cannot be angry with the wonder word, you have to, like, go I wonder. Brad Crowell 23:15  I wonder.Lesley Logan 23:15  I wonder. Brad Crowell 23:16  I wonder. All right, well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna talk about those Be It Action Items that we got from your conversation with Christina Deering.All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. Say it with me. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Christina Deering? Christina explained that daydreaming is not just idle imagination. It's a way of tapping into future possibilities. She said, hey, when we can visualize it, we're actually tapping into future timelines.Lesley Logan 23:50  She is not wrong. I just learned a little bit about how to manifest in a different time, and so.Brad Crowell 23:58  We're like, multiversing it over here.Lesley Logan 23:59  Yes, she said this and I was like, okay, I get that. And then I heard someone else talk about it, and I'm like, oh, I get it. So when she talks about this, you're, the more specific you get, the more you live in the future with that idea, in that moment of that daydream, then you come back into your regular day life where you are in this time, but you have that in the future, and you've manifested it, and you've made it, and as long as you are taking actions that would be like, yes, that's gonna happen, even when things are saying no, it's not.Brad Crowell 24:29  Well, I think also, to giving yourself permission to know that that is a possibility. Lesley Logan 24:34  It's not a waste of time. Brad Crowell 24:36  Well, it's not a waste of time to daydream, letting yourself daydream, let yourself visualize, give yourself the spaciousness to connect with the things that feel exciting. But also, I think it's the counterbalance to this internal monolog that we have that everything's gonna crash around us. It's all coming to an end. The other shoe is gonna fall. We have the self talk that is like, give it three months and everything's gonna explode, but we can have a counter argument to that, and that's this is the Daydream. I think it's valuable. I think it's super helpful, and it helps you operate from a better place. Instead of operating from fear, you're operating from a place of expectation, hope, joy, excitement. So what about you? Lesley Logan 25:15  So we got more into manifesting, and Christina highlighted the importance of aligning your energy to match your goals.Brad Crowell 25:21  Okay. Lesley Logan 25:22  And she referenced David R. Hawkins' Map of Consciousness.Brad Crowell 25:25  I thought this was really curious. I'm not familiar with David R. Hawkins' Map of Consciousness.Lesley Logan 25:29  No, I feel like I need to put it on my TBR. I also know what a TBR is. So I'm super, I'm super on it. Brad Crowell 25:36  Way to be so hip. Lesley Logan 25:37  I'm on the book talks.Brad Crowell 25:38  What's a TBR, oh, to be read.Lesley Logan 25:41  To be read. I'm not on TikTok though. I'm just on the Instagram of book talks. So I wonder, if they call that the Insta book, what are they? Anyways, we were talking about the energy of the things you're manifesting, and so she asked you for your be it action items, she said, when you think about what you're manifesting, what would you feel when you're manifesting that thing? So she explained if you'll probably feel love or you'll feel peace, and she said that you want to make sure that you are in that vibration of the manifesting that you're wanting, because if you're in a lower vibration, like guilt or shame, it's going to indicate misalignment. And so you can actually make sure you're manifesting things you really do want based on if you feel that love or peace or that high vibration, if you feel low vibration feelings, then you might be manifesting something that it's not right for you based on what you think people think you should have, or what a friend or partner is putting on you. It's really quite cool, just to pay attention to the feelings that you're having in the manifestation of the thing that you want. It should be in a high vibration. Should feel really good to think about it.Brad Crowell 26:40  It's interesting. I was just looking at this map, and it helps you basically associate emotions with a level and an energetic number, like an energetic log. They have it. And so wherever your emotional state is, it connects with a specific number, and then that allows you to start connecting the way you're feeling like, oh, I'm feeling like a 20, or I'm feeling like a 700 or whatever.Lesley Logan 27:05  So a 20, just so you guys know, that's shame, and the predominant emotional state is humiliation. The view of life is miserable. The God view is despising, and the process is elimination. I don't know those last two really well, but I think we can all understand, shame feels really low, and if you're feeling guilt or shame, guilt is only above shame by a little bit. If you're feeling that in your manifestations or around manifesting, there's something misaligned. She also suggested use tools like tapping. We've had tapping come up a few times on this podcast.Brad Crowell 27:35  Many times, EFT, Emotional Freedom Tapping, is that right? Emotional Freedom Technique, Emotional Freedom Technique.Lesley Logan 27:42  And like you can tap along your collarbones. Brad Crowell 27:45  Your forehead. Lesley Logan 27:46  Yes, yes, it's really it's, oh, look here we got Emotional Freedom Techniques. You could tap the top of your head, the side of your eye, the inner edge of your eyebrow, underneath your eye, underneath your nose, under lip, above the chin, sides of the center of the collarbone, under the arm, side of the hand, beneath your pinky, so all these different places you can tap on yourself. And I think, I think it's a great, even if you have no idea what we said about vibrations, you can tap.Brad Crowell 28:12  So, like, yeah, what EFT can do is create a sense of calm, and basically when you're daydreaming and forecasting and allowing yourself to believe what could be for you, and you're associating that with this sense of calm that you're gaining by tapping you're effectively reprogramming yourself, you know.Lesley Logan 28:31  Yeah. How cool. How powerful is that? Brad Crowell 28:33  It's pretty powerful. Lesley Logan 28:34  I loved it. So Christina Deering is really cool. And what she's been doing out there, she's really special. We talked about money mindset. She's really amazing as a coach and a shaman for people who are in the intuitive space, as either a life coach or yoga instructor or things like that. And so if you are struggling to shout out from the rooftops that you're amazing, you should talk with her. She's pretty great. I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 28:57  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 28:58  Thank you so much for being here today. We are so grateful to have you as a listener. Holy moly, this podcast has grown so much so quickly. It's compounding because of you.Brad Crowell 29:07  I mean, we're almost at 500 episodes.Lesley Logan 29:09  I know, it's really not and we're in the top 1.5% I checked again yesterday just to make sure it wasn't a fluke, and it's not. Thank you. It's not a fluke. It's pretty amazing. So thank you for being you. Share this episode with a friend who needs to hear it. Also on Fridays, we celebrate your wins, and we want you to send your wins in. It's like you think that your win isn't good enough for me to shout out to other people, and that makes me sad, because actually, the smaller wins are the best thing. So please send them in. You can DM to us on Instagram on the Be It Pod or to me, and just tell me, this is for the wins, for the FYFs, and we will shout them out because you might need to hear your win on the day it comes out, because you might be having a day that's not so awesome. So anyways, have an amazing day until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 29:51  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 29:53  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 30:35  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 30:40  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 30:45  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 30:52  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 30:55  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley and Brad dive into an inspiring conversation with midlife health and fitness expert Heike Yates. They explore how to reignite your passions, overcome self-imposed limitations, and take action toward a fulfilling life. Learn how to stop over-researching and start doing, embrace change, and reclaim control over your future.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why midlife is the perfect time to rediscover what truly excites you.The importance of taking action instead of over-researching new interests.How to recognize and break free from limiting beliefs that hold you back.Using journaling as a tool to uncover your true desires and goals.How embracing failure can actually be the key to success.The power of surrounding yourself with the right people to support your growth.Why dimming your light for others is holding you back from your full potential.Episode References/Links:Ep. 472: Traci Peterson - https://beitpod.com/tracipetersonOne Voice L.A. - https://onevoice-la.orgIndivisible - https://indivisible.orgCambodia October 2025 Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com Spring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorAccessories Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlist If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  We start to go, I'm gonna research these different hobbies. I'm gonna try. And then we get overwhelmed in the researching of things, and not the doing of things. You're not gonna know if you like something. Just go do it. So just go, just jump in and go do it. Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:55  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the revitalizing convo I had with Heike Yates in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened tothis interview, you should pause. Go listen to that one, or listen to this one, then listen to that one. Binge listen. They're so fun to listen to. Brad Crowell 1:11  Binge in.Lesley Logan 1:11  Yeah. Today is February 20th 2025 and it's World Day of Social Justice. World Day of Social Justice is observed annually on February 20th. Internationally, the world is plagued with unfortunate issues that prohibit millions of individuals from living a fair life. Many of the world's population, through no fault of their own, are deprived of basic facilities, such as homes, jobs, healthcare, education, nutrition, and more. It must be the responsibility of the privileged to ensure that we can create a just world where social justice is a norm. How can we contribute to a social justice around the world from where we live? So you know what loves? I think that if you listen to this podcast, you're similar to me and Brad, and you are aware of all the shit that is going on. And there's.Brad Crowell 1:53  Lots of it. Lesley Logan 1:54  Fuck ton of it. And it can feel overwhelming, and it could be hard not to know what to do. And then it can feel like, if you're championing one thing, that you're leaving other people behind. And I think it's one really important to note that it's absolutely okay if you care about one thing, and you can still have feeling and sadness and wish for something different somewhere else, but you can also make a massive change on one area and if you don't have the money to donate to the help of that, then your education and your expertise can also be donated. Your time can be donated. You can leverage the networks that you have, maybe work for a company, and you can ask them to do their next donation drive for something that you care about. There's change you can make. There is, gosh, one of my clients today was telling me that there's a charity organizational website where you can actually see what different charities are doing and see how they rank, as far as like, where their money goes. Brad Crowell 2:49  That's cool. Lesley Logan 2:49  And that is a great way to, if you don't have a lot of money to give to in justices to make sure that what you have can go the furthest. We, Brad and I, did a fundraiser for those who lost their jobs due to the wildfires in Los Angeles. And I know that's not the world and justice, but it's something that's pretty terrible for those people going through it. And the charity that we worked with, One Voice LA, 100% of your donations go to those who need it. You can actually go to onevoice-la I'm sure it's dot org. Brad Crowell 3:18  onevoice-la.orgLesley Logan 3:20  Yeah. So you can go there, but there's definitely websites that you can use to research charities you're thinking of donating to, your time to, money to or leverage. And so I highly recommend that, because I also know that you have a whole life to live, and we can't save people without making sure that you are also taking care of you.Brad Crowell 3:41  I just pulled up two organizations that help measure charities. (inaudible) One is called Charity Navigator. Lesley Logan 3:46  That's exactly what my artist is talking about. Shout out to Meredith Bender. Hi, babe. Brad Crowell 3:49  The other one is called up Metrics, where you can measure and maximize your nonprofits impact. So I think this one's actually not this one might be like the business itself is trying to measure its own impact, whereas Charity Navigator, it sounds like we assess the direct impact of a charity's program relative to the cost required to run it to help donors identify high impact charities. So, you know, like the age-old story of, oh, you get these things in the mail every year for the annual Turkey drive, and then you write them a check for 50 bucks, and they take 45 of it to run the company and get $5 to the thing. Hopefully there are no organizations that do that, but obviously there are. So, Charity Navigator. Interesting. Lesley Logan 4:27  So use that on this World Day of Social Justice. And also please remember that it is really hard to herd kittens and so there's a lot going on. Educate yourself. Stay educated, stay informed. But also give yourself permission to focus on one thing that you want to change. And also, call your congress person if you live in the United States. Brad Crowell 4:31  It's not only about money. It's not only about donating to charity. Social justice is also political, and it's about championing those who can't champion themselves, right? I mean to me, literally, goes all the way back to what my parents taught me about the kids in the playground. Why are people picking on other kids? Because they feel like they can for some reason, and standing up against bullies is one of the best possible ways to advocate on behalf of others. And we obviously have a lot of bullies happening in politics in the United States. Lesley Logan 5:20  There's bullies all over the world. Brad Crowell 5:22  And all over the world. Lesley Logan 5:23  And they only have the room to grow because we let them. So call your congress person. You can call them every day. Did you know that? Brad Crowell 5:31  You can call them every day. Lesley Logan 5:32  People do. Also get involved in your local things, because apparently not many people go to like local city council meetings. And so the loud assholes, the bullies win because there's no one else there. Indivisible.org. They send a lot of emails, not gonna lie. Brad Crowell 5:47  Indivisible.org. Lesley Logan 5:47  Yeah, indivisible. And you can find the city near you, and then they will help you see all the different groups you can join that are about the causes that you care about.Brad Crowell 5:56  I just signed up for their newsletter about my zip code. Lesley Logan 5:58  Yeah, oh. Brad Crowell 6:00  indivisible.orgLesley Logan 6:00  That's great. I didn't find that option, and now I'm just getting a lot of emails. Brad Crowell 6:04  Right on the homepage. Lesley Logan 6:05  So there you go. So this is why we need Brad. Okay, let's go through this really quick. We are, while you're listening to this, we are in Cambodia, and you can join us in October, because it's for sure too late now, we're already here.Brad Crowell 6:17  It's for sure too late, unless you live in Cambodia. Then come on over. Lesley Logan 6:20  Yeah, come on over. Come say hi. So go to crowsnestretreats.com to sign up for our October retreat. We really want you there. It's beautiful. It's amazing. We spend a week together at our home and it's a true retreat. Really special. Brad Crowell 6:32  Yeah. It's magic. Lesley Logan 6:33  When we come back, we'll be heading over to POT in Denver. Brad Crowell 6:36  Yeah, we're gonna drive through Utah, Arizona and Colorado to get there. Not sure about Arizona. We might go the north part. Lesley Logan 6:42  Yeah, we're not doing any pop ups, don't, so we're on vacation. Brad Crowell 6:45  Yeah, no pop ups but we are, we're gonna drive and we're going to be there in the area for the whole event. We're excited about it. It's gonna be awesome. Lesley Logan 6:52  I've got some great workshops at it. So you can definitely still sign up. Brad Crowell 6:55  I'll be hanging out the merch booth. Lesley Logan 6:56  I know that they were almost sold out the last time I got a numbers count. So don't wait. Brad Crowell 7:00  Crazy, right?Lesley Logan 7:01  Then in April 27th through May 3rd, we have spring training, spring Pilates training, you guys. Brad Crowell 7:07  That's right from OPC. Go to opc.me/events. That will put you on the waitlist to find out about spring training. What is it going to be? Really quick. Go.Lesley Logan 7:16  Oh, it's all the OPC teachers and me teaching mat, reformer, a tower and a Wunda chair. You'll be able to buy a mat only ticket or an equipment plus mat ticket. So if you don't have access to the equipment, there'll be plenty of classes for you on just the mat. There are going to be all different levels, all different body types. And we're focused on one theme, and to find out what that theme is you got to go to opc.me/events and sign up, because I got to break the news to them first. Can't, that's worth, that's what we said. Brad Crowell 7:40  All right, if you are taking money to teach a client, if you are personally getting paid by the client, then you run your own business. Congratulations. Or if you have a home studio or a brick and mortar, I want you to come join me for a free webinar called the growth accelerator. We're gonna cover three big secrets that Lesley and I have put together after coaching more than 2500 businesses just like yours over the past seven years with our agency coaching program. Come join me for this webinar, prfit.biz/accelerator. That's prfit.biz or profit without the O slash accelerator, and join me for free. Finally, last up, we have the Accessories Deck, the Accessories Flash Card Deck with OPC. It is the sixth and final deck. We are so close to being done. I know that the first draft is done. It's being reviewed right now. Lesley Logan 8:27  This is the first Cambodia trip in years that I'm not writing a flash card on. Brad Crowell 8:31  That's so crazy. Lesley Logan 8:32  I know. What am I doing with my time? You guys. Brad Crowell 8:35  Oh, we're gonna do other things with your time. Lesley Logan 8:36  I have other things to write. I have blogs to write. I have a bot to edit. There's plenty for me to do.Brad Crowell 8:43  There's plenty to do but that's not what we're talking about. For the Accessories Deck. You know, we already did the photo shoot. It's looking really good. Lesley and I literally got a chance to meet the people who produce our flash cards when we were on tour. Lesley Logan 8:55  That was so cool. Brad Crowell 8:56  It was really lovely. We didn't actually get a chance to film anything because the entire place was closed for the holidays. So next time, I don't know if we'll ever be there when we're not there for the holidays, but one day, I would like to actually go see the operations. Let their team show us all these crazy machines that they use to make these flash cards. I'm fascinated by the process. Anyway, we're stoked to produce the sixth deck with them as well. We'll be dropping the presale really soon. So go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. Get yourself on the wait list. You will be the only people getting a 30% off offer on this final deck. So don't wait on that. Before we move on. We had a question.Lesley Logan 9:37  From YouTube. Brad Crowell 9:38  Okay, jasminesaif183 says hi, Lesley, would you say you teach classical Pilates, and if we wanted to learn the real Pilates, is there a playlist we can follow on your channel?Lesley Logan 9:52  Yeah, so I do teach classical Pilates. That's what I would consider I teach, and anything on my channel is classical. So there's no need to make a playlist, because everything is what I will learn from Jay Grimes, who studied with Joe Pilates, what I learned from the Taylor sisters who studied with Romana. So I am a classical teacher, and so you're good to go with anything there. We do have playlists that are like the mat or by equipment, but I'm not gonna create a playlist that's just because that would be the whole YouTube channel. Brad Crowell 10:24  Yeah, yeah. So. Lesley Logan 10:26  I also just want to say, in case, because she wrote real Pilates in here.Brad Crowell 10:29  I was gonna ask you to address that. Lesley Logan 10:31  I refuse to get involved in a conversation about what's real Pilates and what's not real Pilates. I won't do that because.Brad Crowell 10:38  Unless it's not Pilates in the least. Lesley Logan 10:40  Unless it's not Pilates in the least. Like a Megaformer. There might be some moves that are Pilates esque, but you I can't from their website 10 years ago. I cannot teach Pilates moves on a Megaformer and they cannot teach their moves on a regular reformer. It was from. Brad Crowell 10:53  That's clearly not Pilates. Lesley Logan 10:55  Yeah. So, so that being said, they might be telling people that's what they're doing. They might be telling their teachers or their trainers that's what they're doing. And I don't ever want to be the person who busts anyone's bubbles. So here's the deal. There's a lot of different Pilates styles out there, and most of them are all real Pilates. Now I teach what Joseph Pilates created with his intentions. Brad Crowell 11:14  From the book that he wrote. Lesley Logan 11:15  Yeah, from his book and from his teachings of his client, and I do the best I can to uphold what that purpose is. And if you were trained in a different way and you want to learn what I'm doing, great if you're training a different way and you don't want to learn the way I'm doing it, great. This world is a place where you get to. Brad Crowell 11:32  You do you, baby.Lesley Logan 11:33  You do you and you don't even have to explain it to me. I have no judgment, but I think it's really important to not get bogged down by the semantics of it, but there are styles, just like in yoga, there's yoga styles, and so if you find a style you like, keep going. Brad Crowell 11:48  Yeah, I agree. All right, y'all. Stick around we'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this fantastic convo that Lesley had with Heike Yates. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 11:57  Okay, welcome back. Now, let's talk about Heike Yates. Heike Yates is a midlife health and fitness expert with over 35 years of experience, and she's the host of the pursue your spark podcast with a rich background as a seasoned Pilates coach and former Ironman triathlete, Heike is dedicated to helping women in midlife build strength, confidence in health. Through her podcast and coaching, she empowers women to embrace new possibilities, overcome challenges and lead vibrant, fulfilling lives, and she's working on a book and everything. It was really fascinating to listen to her share her story about how she was not raised in a society that intentionally worked out, meaning, I'm gonna block off one hour and go work out. Because where she was raised in Germany, your life was a workout. You were walking everywhere. You were hiking up and down mountains. You were doing all this stuff, because that's she you did. And then she said, when she got pregnant, her body obviously went through a dramatic change, and she gained 50 pounds, and then had no idea how to lose that. And so that is what took her down this path. And I feel like there's a generational thing there, too, for sure, she got into all the different things, and she went down all these different modalities over the decades, which I thought was really amazing.Lesley Logan 13:13  Yeah, I also like that she's really inspired to help women find their spark again. So it's not just about the movement of it, which I think for women in midlife, I don't know why it feels old. It feels like we're making it worse. Brad Crowell 13:25  Well, I think the reason. Lesley Logan 13:26  Because I'm 42. I'm not at midlife, when's midlife?Brad Crowell 13:29  Well, I think the reason that she's not saying pre post menopause is because it pigeon holes her into talking only about menopause. And you know, when she was talking about her book, she said, yes, some of the publishers were coming to me and saying, like, great, you're a menopause author, and she's like, but I'm not, you know, so I think she's using midlife to encompass a little bit of a wider audience there.Lesley Logan 13:30  Yeah. So I really was drawn to more what she was talking about women in midlife and having lost touch with their true desires. I also think because, again, you brought up generations, I think that my friends today have had more people tell them to know what their goals are and what they want outside of being a parent. And I think 10 plus years women older than us, like it was, you're a mom, that's what you did, and it was really weird if you were more than that, if you did anything else. So I do think that it's necessary to talk with those women about how to figure out that it's because also our desires change, and so you might have known what they were before, but then life happens. You go through and the things that brought you joy don't bring your joy the same way they do, and you have to have new desires, right? So I really want to say that she encouraged listeners to look not at what you can't do, but what possibilities are there. Focus on what is possible. You know, we talk about that all the time at OPC, so you know, I'm gonna love that Brad Crowell 13:50  Sure. Lesley Logan 13:52  She also said, if you don't try anything, you will never find what it is that lights you up. Brad Crowell 14:38  So take messy action. Lesley Logan 14:45  Yeah and I thought that was fun, because I think we start to go, I gotta research these different hobbies. I'm gonna try. And then we get overwhelmed in the researching of things, and not the doing of things. You're not gonna know if you like something. Let's just go do it. So just go, just jump in and go do it.Brad Crowell 15:00  Yeah. And one thing I found like a through line, and she didn't explicitly say this, but she did explicitly say, when you're trying to understand your goals, don't listen to what other people tell you that your goals should be. You need to find your goals yourself. And she kind of said it and then brought it back up again later on in the conversation. And so, you know, she encouraged honesty about our own desires, saying, when we look at ourselves, we've got to be honest about what we want, right? And then you asked, hey, what if you don't know what you want? Because you were talking about the retreat in Cambodia where you're like, hey, what does a year from now look like? And then people got they found that as a roadblock. They couldn't do the exercise because, like, I don't know what I want to be in a year, right? And so you asked her, What happens if you hit that hurdle yourself? And she said, You need to start journaling and paying attention to the desires that you have during your journaling. But ultimately, that still lends itself directly back to knowing your goals, your desires, not letting other people define your goals for you. I thought that was really important. I also think it's hard. I think it's really hard, especially when we feel boxed in by the life that we have today. Maybe your goal was something that is just literally not even possible because you have a job that keeps you in one place all the time, and you can't travel, you can't leave, or, I don't know, you have young kids that demand a lot of time, and now you have to wait to accomplish your goal. So I think that it's hard to decide what our goals can be, that we're willing to let ourselves pursue without knowing that it will fail because of the boxes that we live in, right?Lesley Logan 16:38  Yeah. I also think that we if we fail, then it wasn't worth doing, or we weren't deserving of it, or whatever and it's like.Brad Crowell 16:43  Then we feel guilty because we let ourselves down or something. Lesley Logan 16:46  I mean, how many times did someone fill the light bulb? A lot. And now if we fucking stop, we wouldn't have had light as soon as we did. So.Brad Crowell 16:55  Yeah and she did talk about failure, too. She said it's not failure. It's just, you know, it's the next step. It's the next baby step. She pointed out that many women feel stuck. They're either waiting for an answer to appear from the universe, or they're scared to fail, right? And her advice was, don't sit there frozen. Take action. Don't wait. It's okay to fail because we never actually do. It's something. We try something, we might not like it and then it's okay to change and shift your goal and reclaim control of your life. So she said, take action, and that's going to be the thing that moves you forward. And you know how much we're all about messy action. So, yeah. I think she's just also very kind. Lesley Logan 17:34  Yeah, she's got spunk to her. I really like it. Brad Crowell 17:37  Yeah, I think as a coach, she's just very warm, you know, all around as good vibes. All right, well stick around, because we do have some,Be It Action Items from Heike. We're going to find out about those in just a second. Brad Crowell 17:49  All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Heike Yates? To find what lights you up, start journaling. I did briefly mention this before. She said write down your thoughts. Start thinking about the things that maybe you're envying your friends for which I thought that's interesting. Normally, I was raised where, like, don't be jealous, don't feel envy. And she's actually saying not that you should tap into that and lean into that, but understand what's happening. Notice that. What is it that you're feeling that about? Write it down and then say, I want what she has, whatever that is, and give yourself the permission to say, to be honest, I want that. Look around for inspiration. Ask yourself, what are my friends doing? What do they do? Try activities that they enjoy or explore something new for yourself. She said, even if you don't know what you want, trying anything helps you discover what lights you up and what you don't like, which helps you narrow down what you do. Yeah.Lesley Logan 18:47  Yeah. I love she had so many great Be It Action Items, and so I also want to highlight that she said stop dimming your light and move on and enjoy life. And I love this, because often, as women, we were raised, you're too loud, you're too bossy, you're too this. We talked about this with Tracy Peterson, like you're too bossy, you're too this, you're too, like, all these things that actually people telling you that it's like a little thing where they're saying, turn your light down. It's too much. And actually, Heike is saying it's bold to keep your light on, move on and enjoy your life. And I think that that is the best thing we can do, because we're not going to keep everyone with us all the time. We're just not. And so dimming your light to stay in the box that other people want you in, it'd be a real shame, and that is not what you're trying to do when you're trying to be it till you see it. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 19:32  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 19:33  Please make sure you share your takeaways with Heike, the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Share this with one of your midlife friends who needs to hear someone kind telling them things that might feel very familiar to them, and helping them enjoy their life more and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 19:46  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 19:48  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 20:30  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 20:35  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 20:40  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 20:47  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 20:50  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

CEOWorld Magazine, Medium André Stewart is nominee for Los Angeles Times CFO & CEO Leadership Award in 2021.His latest Book:  Epitome of the Mind: Unlock Your Full Potential for Better Health, Prosperity and Happiness, April 15.2023André Stewart is the founder and CEO of InvestFar Capital, Residual Roads Business Institute, and InvestFar, the first mobile app that lets you purchase, renovate, sell, or manage an investment property remotely globally. Have you ever felt overwhelmed or depressed? Been homeless, unemployed, or on government assistance? That was André's life path before entering the world of finance.Previously a commercial banker at Wells Fargo, Silicon Valley Bank and a private bank named OneWest Bank as an advisor to CEOs of startups, major tech companies, and high net worth individuals, everything changed when at the age of thirty-three, his doctor ordered him to quit. The stress was literally killing him, leaving André on the brink of cardiac arrest. André then discovered the knowledge of real estate investing and was able to achieve financial independence in less than seven months in that industry. Residing in Los Angeles, California, André is now on a mission to help others from all walks of life discover mental awareness and financial independence.His book, The Real Estate Investing Diet: Harnessing Health Strategies to Build Wealth in Ninety Days(August 2, 2022; Amplify Publishing) André shares practical tools and techniques for gaining financial independence and generating long-term wealth through real estate investing―without using your own personal credit or up front capital.Whether you have a bank account in the negative or a million dollars to invest, this book will not be like any other real estate guide you've read before. André not only gives you every single tool to make money in any real estate economic climate, but he also does so while navigating an unprecedented modern economy. If you want to be financially free in an unparalleled time in the history of any country, this is the book for you.© 2025 All Rights Reserved© 2025 BuildingAbundantSuccess!!Join Me on ~ iHeart Media @ https://tinyurl.com/iHeartBASSpot Me on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/yxuy23baAmazon Music ~ https://tinyurl.com/AmzBASAudacy:  https://tinyurl.com/BASAud

It's Fuck Yeah Friday and Lesley Logan is celebrating wins, self-love, and the power of consistency. Whether you're single or in a relationship, loving yourself is key. Plus, hear inspiring wins from the community, including a marathoner defying limits and an author achieving her dream. Tune in for motivation to stay consistent, embrace the journey, and celebrate your own progress!If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why self-love is the foundation of confidence and success.The inspiring story of Hannah Gavios and redefining limits.How networking can be easy with the right mindset.The importance of sticking with your goals even when progress feels slow.A powerful reminder: Don't judge your beginnings harshly.Episode References/Links:Hannah Gavios' Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/hannahgavios If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Hello, Be It babe. Happy FYF. Oh my God, it's on the Valentine's Day, which, you know, we don't really celebrate around here, because it's just a day. But in case no one has asked you, would you be my Valentine? Do you want to be my Valentine? Oh my God, we're all Galentines around here. I know I think it's just important that it you are kind to yourself and you have love for you. That is my message for you today. Because I think when I was growing up, it was like, oh, do you have a Valentine's Day date? Do you have this date? No, I never did. No, I did not. And now that I'm married, my husband is wonderful, and he's lovely, and we really don't do anything about this holiday. Hopefully don't need a holiday to celebrate your love. But if you are alone and you are single, please focus on what you love yourself, because that, I promise you, is gonna be the sexiest thing about you. And you also don't need someone to be awesome, because you are awesome already. So I start these FYFs now with someone who's or something that's like, caught my eye or inspired me. Hopefully it'll inspire you. So this girl, Hannah Gavios, she, seven years ago, fell off a cliff. You'll have to go to her account on Instagram (inaudible) surname Hannah Gavios. She fell off a cliff in Thailand and she has a spinal cord injury, and so she is on crutches, and appears she can stand on her legs, but can't really use them. At any rate, she used to be a marathon runner, half marathon runner, before she had the spinal cord injury, and now she uses her crutches to do marathons, and they take like 11 hours. And now she's, at least from the last one I saw, she got them down to like nine hours, but nine hours doing a marathon, crutching her way on crutches, right? And I just love this because, to me, a spinal cord injury would just feel like my entire life would change forever. Because, I mean, I use my whole body all of the time, but seeing someone like her, who used to run these marathons, continue to do it with her crutches, she's not on five, at least, according to this last post, and do it in her own way, in her own time, and she travels and she does yoga. Guys like, how cool is that? How freaking cool. So Hannah, thank you for sharing your story. Thank you for being you, and thank you for allowing us to see what is so possible even with a spinal cord injury. I mean, it's pretty phenomenal. And I think too often we let ourselves get put in a box and a label on things, and we go, well, that's the life I'm gonna live. And my goodness, you are showing that there's no box around your spinal cord injury whatsoever. So thank you for that. Okay, a win of yours. Let's go with Melissa Capitano from Chicago, eLevate grad, Agency member, networking win. I had a coaching call with Brad and he gave me a networking pep talk. I walked into a neighborhood business and saw a woman that I had previously talked to at a networking event. She said she still wants to come in some time. Do I have any beginner things coming up? I said, I will send you an email, and I pulled out my contacts, clicked the plus button on the phone and told her to add in her info. She said, perfect. And did it. Bonus. I couldn't remember her name, and didn't even have to ask, because she put it in my phone. Yes, Melissa, oh my God, I love this so much. I love this so much. One more win, because I'm excited today. It's also just a day of love. So let's just like, love up on all these people. Okay, but before I go to the next one, I just want to highlight like. So what she's saying she did, you guys, is she and this is what Brad does all the time, and it's really helpful. You don't have to know that person's name. You just take your phone and open up the Contacts app, and you can just hand it to someone. So we have a new neighbor on the street, and the person introduced themselves, and they're like, oh yeah, that's amazing. We should definitely connect. And Brad just like, pulls his phone out, hands it to the guy with the contacts thing open, and the guy puts his first name in, last name in, phone number, what everyone puts in there. And then Brad can, like, add notes, like, neighbor down the street with great dane. And so it's really great, because we can search for him if we need to. And also, if you don't remember the person's name, no, you can't. Another fun fact that we like to do is we like to then take a picture of ourselves with the person. We learned this from someone else at another network. Maybe we take a pictures of ourselves with the person right then, and then we text it to them, so now they have our contact, phone number at least, so we can give them more if we want to. So thank you, Melissa, for letting us share all of that, and hopefully someone got a little tidbit on something they can use later. Okay, so Natalia from Germany, she wrote, I held my book, just coming out next week, in my hands for the first time today, and saw it live. I still can't believe it. If someone had told me the beginning of the year what was happening, I would have called them crazy. I've always wanted to write a book about Pilates, and I remember the agency webinar last year on this topic. And this year, a big publisher even approached me, and now I'm publishing my book about Wall Pilates. There's a lot of interest in media, and I really hope that the people out there like it too. Keep your fingers crossed, please. Okay, Natalia, I have your book now. This one is from a bit ago. I have your beautiful book. It is so cute, it's so fun, it's so special. You are adorable. And it's in German. So I have, I have not a lot to read there, but I could follow along the pictures, and you thank us at the end. I'm so pleased and honored, and I'm so, so grateful. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you for that. And congratulations on your book. And it's so cool when you get to see it in real life. And isn't that fun? I know we're in February, but like we're in the first quarter of the year, and we have no idea what's about to come up the rest of this year? We have no idea. In February, a year ago, Natalia had no idea she was gonna write a book, and then within a few months, she heard she's writing a book, and now she's holding a book, all within a year. So you don't know what surprises around the corner that are for you that is so cool. All right, so now we have a win, a win of mine. Okay, so here's the deal, Brad and I have been working extremely hard behind the scenes on a lot of stuff, and something we were talking with a friend about was like, when you start a business, you were like, I love this thing that I'm doing, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna start this business, and then I get to do the thing that I love all of the time. And then no one tells you wrong. That's not true. You'll do a lot of paperwork. You have a lot of paperwork to do, and then there's some more paperwork. And then did you know that there's this other paperwork you can do? And did you know that there's this other thing that you could do? And so in the last year, we've been working behind the scenes on just certifying our company and getting these things taken care of, so that in these certifications are just like, so that we're like women-owned, and honoring our ADHD-ness that we have and all this stuff. So we have been working really, really hard behind the scenes. And I'm the type of person that when I get working over here in this kind of category of things, I can get a little distracted from the other things that, you know, just hard for me to like, balance it all. So at any rate, I'm sitting here today. We've been home for more than a month, and we have really stayed on track with some of the things we wanted to do. In the last year, we have made changes into some programs, and we've announced those changes, and we've followed through with the access like, we've just stayed consistent. And if I can offer anything to any of you who are working for yourselves and you're tired of the paperwork, consistency is the thing that I promise you will grow your business. Just being consistent. Being consistent is why this podcast is so successful. Being consistent is why OPC is so successful. Being consistent. So if you are feeling like, completely overwhelmed with all the paperwork, there is an end in sight. I'm feeling that end for a lot of the things we've been doing paperwork for for over a year. I'm feeling that end. It's here. But also, if you can just stay consistent and not try to be like, let me do this 17 new ideas. Stay consistent. Things will grow. And then when you're done with the things that feel like they're bogging you down, you're done with the things that are bogging you down, you can get back to those ideas you have. You can get back to the ideas parking lot. You can. All right, so that's just my little tidbit, and my win. It's not really like a win that we could all mark, or, I can't say on this date we finished this, not yet, but we are close. We are so close. And my win is that with all of these distractions, of all the stuff we have to do to just have some things, let's not even just have something. There's actually a bunch of windows and doors that open once these things are done, but it can feel like you can lose sight of why you're doing something like this when you're just filling the paperwork all the fucking time. So be consistent in what you love, and have an ideas parking lot board for those ideas that come up that you can't take action on yet. Do the paperwork, whatever the obstacle is, and then I promise you, you can get back to those ideas. Okay, your mantra is don't judge your beginnings harshly. Don't judge your beginnings harshly. Don't judge your beginnings harshly. Please, don't ever do that. Oh my gosh, during the recaps of last December, you absolutely heard episode number one, and our audio equipment wasn't awesome, but that episode was great, and if we had stopped then and rejudged our beginnings so harshly, then we wouldn't be here today with this amazing episode for you. So my love, you're amazing. Take care of yourself, and you know what to do until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. Brad Crowell 10:16  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 10:21  It is produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 10:25  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 10:32  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Lesley Logan 10:34  and Semana Velazquez for our transcriptions.Brad Crowell 10:38  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Building strong relationships requires intentional communication, but many couples struggle to connect emotionally. In this episode, Lesley and Brad explore the insightful conversation with Kristal DeSantis, a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, who shares powerful tools to improve relationships. Learn about the Heartbeat Exercise, the four positions of conversation, and how redefining masculinity can help partners understand and support each other better. Whether you're looking to enhance your current relationship or prepare for a future one, this episode offers valuable strategies to deepen your connections.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How the Heartbeat Exercise strengthens communication and emotional intimacy.Why the way men and women are socialized affects relationship dynamics.The four positions of conversation and how to navigate them effectively.How redefining masculinity can lead to healthier relationships.Why collaboration is more powerful than compromise in building strong partnerships.Episode References/Links:Cambodia October 2025 Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com Pilates Spring Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorAccessories Flashcard Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistStrong: A Relationship Field Guide for the Modern Man - https://a.co/d/4tiDC0B If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  Imagine it as a heartbeat, the ups, the downs and the points where you connect. How it works, point of pride, ask your partner what they are proud of, and then validate it. Point of pain, hold space for their struggles without fixing. Point of pleasure, celebrate moments of joy or connection. Lesley Logan 0:19  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:02  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the eye-opening convo I had with our guest, Kristal DeSantis in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you should, especially if you're married or wanting to be married to a dude, because I think it was just a really, but if you want to be married to a woman, you know, also there's stuff in there. (inaudible) Communication is universal and I think we all can. Brad Crowell 1:28  I feel like it's also like a social commentary on how we value ourselves, (inaudible) you know, or the stories that we've been told. How about that? Lesley Logan 1:36  Oh, the stories we've been told, the stories we've been raised with. And, you know, we're all taught different things, and so you might be dating someone who's taught something different than you, and so you gotta get on the same page. Brad Crowell 1:46  Yeah, honestly, I was a little concerned when I read the topic. I was like, oh, there's a doctor female who's coaching men. That just seems weird, but I really appreciated her approach to the conversation and the high level on both sides of the conversation about, you know, we're like, almost like two ships passing in the night from the way that we were raised. Anyway, I'm doing a lot of hinting at, you should go back and listen to the last episode if you didn't already.Lesley Logan 2:14  Also, she wrote a great book, so we are to give it out on our tours (inaudible) people. I feel like it's really great and I, too, was a bit concerned. I was like a woman coaching on what it means to be a loving man, but she wasn't condescending in any way. And it wasn't like they're wrong or you're wrong. It felt really welcoming. I just really enjoyed it.Brad Crowell 2:19  I am curious. I didn't read the book yet, but I'm curious because the conversation, at least, was more about the consternation that has been created by the shift in female empowerment, and then the messaging not being. Lesley Logan 2:53  Delivered. Brad Crowell 2:54  Yeah, I'm just trying to pick the right words here, because the messaging for women has been A but the messaging for men has not changed or been impacted or shifted, and so now there is a disconnect happening. Lesley Logan 3:09  And well, let's just get into it in a second. Brad Crowell 3:11  We're gonna get into it, y'all. We're gonna get into it.Lesley Logan 3:11  Because I have some other thoughts to say on that. So, okay, today is February 13th. It's happy almost Valentine's Day, and it's Self-Love Day. You know what? There's a really awesome sweatshirt that I'm not gonna buy, but it's about like Cupid was in a pissed off mood. I feel like that's where everyone is in 2025 right now. And that was just a dark satire, and I loved it. But anyways, it's Self-Love Day. And you should love yourself before you can love other people, just kind of how it goes. Because if you've been in a crappy relationship, you probably could tell that you weren't really loving yourself very much. That's what the therapist would probably say. So, at any rate, Self-Love Day is an annual celebration to preach and understand the importance of self-love. I feel like that's using the word in a definition, but we're gonna let that go. Brad Crowell 3:53  Well, I decided to remedy that. So keep going. Lesley Logan 3:55  Self-Love is one of the most powerful forms of love. It is something that we have coded inside us. Proponents of self-love believe that it could strengthen a person's feeling of being loved. Is there an opponent to self-love? Who is telling people not to love themselves? Brad Crowell 4:13  Oh, maybe it's like the people who are like serve others. You're always last. Lesley Logan 4:17  Oh, yeah, yeah, uh-huh. Brad Crowell 4:19  They probably would argue that they're not arguing against self-love, but yeah. Lesley Logan 4:23  Yeah. The date coincides with Valentine's week, and is celebrated so that people can be strong enough to love themselves by the next day and not need a romantic partner on February 14th. Brad Crowell 4:33  It happens in a day, y'all. Just one day, you're good to go. Lesley Logan 4:35  So Brad wanted just fill us in (inaudible) yeah, Brad wanted to fill us in on what self-love is exactly. Thank you, Brad, why don't you step in here? Brad Crowell 4:44  That was a terrible question. Read it like a question. Lesley Logan 4:47  Hey, Brad. Brad Crowell 4:47  Hey. Lesley Logan 4:48  Want to fill us in on what self-love is exactly? Brad Crowell 4:51  Yes, I would be so excited about that. Self-love is the practice of valuing, caring for and respecting your self. It involves recognizing your worth and treating yourself with kindness, compassion and forgiveness. Self-love is not selfish or narcissistic. Rather, it is about fostering a healthy relationship with yourself which can positively impact your mental, emotional and physical well-being. Now. Lesley Logan 5:18  I have some key aspects of self-love. Brad Crowell 5:20  Yeah, I was gonna say, how do you practice self-love? Lesley Logan 5:23  So, one, is acceptance. Embracing who you are, including your strengths, flaws and imperfections. Brad Crowell 5:30  Yeah. Another is self-care. And I know we talk about this often on the pod, prioritizing yourself, physical, emotional, mental health, with activities like anything that actually lights you up. Could be sleeping an extra hour. It could be eating right. It could be getting your nails done. Lesley Logan 5:46  Also, setting boundaries is a key aspect of self-love. Protecting your energy and time by saying no to things that don't align with your values or well-being. Brad Crowell 5:53  Yeah, could be positive self-talk, replacing self-criticism with encouraging or kind thoughts. That's really hard to identify when you're berating yourself sometimes in the moment, but if you can catch yourself, great. Lesley Logan 6:03  Forgiveness, letting go of past mistakes and treating yourself with understanding. Brad Crowell 6:07  Yeah, that's a hard one. That's a hard one, especially with our generations of guilt that you just like slathered on children, and then we carry that into the rest of our lives. Forgiveness. Or if you did something in your past that you're shocked that you did. I have instances in my memory like that that I can't let go of, and that forgiveness has been hard to be like I made that decision. It wasn't a decision that I like or agree with today, and I'm moving past it. I am not that person now, but yeah, that forgiveness, that's tough. Lesley Logan 6:39  And gratitude, appreciating, oh, I skipped one. Brad Crowell 6:42  Yeah, growth. Being open to learning, improving or pursuing personal goals. We're all about that, of course. And then finally. Lesley Logan 6:47  Gratitude, appreciating your journey and the unique qualities that make you who you are. Practicing self-love allows you to build resilience, maintain healthy relationships and live in a more fulfilling life. It's an ongoing journey rather than destination. Brad Crowell 7:00  Yeah. Lesley Logan 7:01  So let us know how you're loving up on yourself today and every day. Brad Crowell 7:04  Yeah. How do you practice self-love? Lesley Logan 7:05  Yeah. We want to know. Send it to Be It Pod so we can share them with people who need ideas other than these brilliant ones. (inaudible) Brad Crowell 7:09  Yeah, and maybe it'll be on the wins.Lesley Logan 7:11  Yeah, we'd love that. Let's do that. We are almost to Cambodia again. So when this comes out, we're leaving, I think the Monday after this, so. Brad Crowell 7:11  It will be a couple of days, yes. Lesley Logan 7:13  Yeah, we're gonna go. So you should come with us on October, because it's kind of too late for you to come with us now, I'm just gonna be honest. Lesley Logan 7:22  Well, look, you are welcome to fly straight to Cambodia. Lesley Logan 7:31  Yeah, Brad will figure it out.Brad Crowell 7:32  (inaudible) We will make it work. However. Lesley Logan 7:34  October is great. Brad Crowell 7:35  More realistic. October this year, October 12th to 17th, we're gonna be back in Cambodia at our place. And by the way, we have been able to continue to work on our place, our property, the rooms, make it nicer, cooler, just more amazing. We've got some incredible partners. We have made some incredible adjustments to the trip that I can't be more excited about. We just got a new boat ride and the Lotus Garden. Lesley Logan 8:00  Oh my God, I saw a reel of the Lotus garden. And I was like, that's so beautiful. And I was like, oh wait, we do that every time. Oh, my God, but it's so funny, because I'm like, look how beautiful that is. I'm like, wait, that's where we go. That's what we do. Brad Crowell 8:11  Yeah, so we want you to come join us. Go to crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com. Lesley Logan 8:17  In March, we'll be home for just a little bit, and then we get to go to Denver. Brad and I gonna drive into the POT in Denver, and you can come. It's a great for Pilates instructors to get CECs and connect with other Pilates instructors. It's really, really a lot of fun. We'll have a booth there. Brad Crowell 8:32  Yeah, we'll be hanging out. Lesley will actually be teaching. I will be manning the booth and generally just kicking it. Yeah, that's gonna be super fun. We're really excited to be heading back to the Denver area. And then in April, mark your calendars y'all, April 27th to May 3rd, April 27th to May 3rd, we are doing. Lesley Logan 8:51  Spring training. Brad Crowell 8:52  Spring training. Lesley Logan 8:53  Pilates spring training. Who knew? Brad Crowell 8:54  What is that? Lesley Logan 8:55  So it's a play on baseball spring training, but nothing to do with it. We're not doing anything with baseball. Brad Crowell 9:03  It's gonna be a home run derby. Lesley Logan 9:04  Yeah, assuming something like that. So basically, years ago, everyone loved that week long Control Your Balance challenge, and so this is kind of like that, but something for everyone. So there's myself and the six other OPC teachers doing live classes on the mat reformer. There'll be a tower and a Wunda Chair class during the whole week around the same theme. So there'll be different levels, there's gonna be several classes at different time zones. So no matter where you live, you'll be able to attend live. And if you can't attend live, there'll be access to the replays for a limited time. It's essentially so you can experience OPC without having to commit to OPC just yet. So you get to experience what it's like to learn from different teachers on the same theme. You need to be on different pieces of equipment. You get to have that community aspect and that Q & A without you having to go into the app. So we're basically like bringing the experience to you.Brad Crowell 9:57  Awesome. I love that. If you are a Pilates business owner. That's anyone, if you are taking your own clients and getting paid by them directly, that will be small business owners, medium, even large business owners with multiple locations. I want you to come join me for a free webinar that I've been hosting called the Sudio Growth Accelerator. Don't be thrown off by that. If you don't have a brick and mortar, it's okay. I want you to come join me. It's the growth accelerator. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator, and we're going to be covering three big secrets that Lesley and I have learned over the last seven years of coaching more than 2500 businesses just like yours. We've boiled it down to these three big things, and then we get a chance to talk and Q & A and do all sorts of fun stuff. Because these concepts, we didn't know them when we were getting started, we just kind of had to figure them out. And then over time, having had thousands of conversations with people just like you, it's really helped us create a path that you can take. And I want to share all that with you. So come join me, prfit.biz/accelerator. And then finally.Lesley Logan 11:06  The last and final deck of the flashcard series is the Accessories Deck. And this is something that anyone can have, because more than 70% of it is things you can use around the house or make yourself. And so if you want to get this deck at 30% off, you have to be on the waitlist, because that's where the presale price is going to be, soon. Brad Crowell 11:26  And only, only there, we do not publicly post it. Lesley Logan 11:30  And so if you are on our regular email list, you are not going to hear about the presale there. If you are on the opc.me/events for spring training, you will not hear about the presale there. You have to be on the specific, you raised your hand. Brad Crowell 11:45  You did. Lesley Logan 11:45  For this waitlist. So, opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. That's we're you're going to get the updates when that presale happens. As of right now, of this recording, we don't have a date picked, but I feel like we're going to be able to do March. The team is working really swiftly, so we're already on the editing stage as we speak, and so we're past the longest part of it. So, it's coming up, it's coming up quick. Brad Crowell 12:08  It's gonna be good. Lesley Logan 12:09  Okay. Before we get into Kristal's episode, we have an audience question. Lesley Logan 12:13  Yeah, we sure do @goaltech_ontheroad asks on IG, hey, regarding the short box series on the reformer, should the legs touch the carrier or not? What differs? Lesley Logan 12:26  When we were on tour, Brad, when we're at Virginia Beach, we did a post about the short box and how to use your legs and all that stuff there, and so this question came through there, and I thought that was really interesting, because for the teachers and Pilates-lovers listening, we have to stop thinking that things are so black and white, like, should the legs touch or not touch? I don't know. How tall are you? What box are you on? What reformer are you using? Where is the strap connecting on the equipment to? All these things matter, because if you're on a really tall box and you're a really short person, chances are your legs are going to touch, right? If you are a really tall person on a short box, like me, my calves touch carriage. They just do. Now, do my feet touch the frame? No, but depending on the equipment the box, if the strap is on top of the frame versus underneath, there's so many different things. I can't answer that for you, because it's going to depend. And the difference is. Brad Crowell 12:26  It depends on the body. Lesley Logan 13:09  Depends on the body. And so. Brad Crowell 13:21  Depends on the box. Lesley Logan 13:23  What I would just say is, are you connected to your center? Are your legs connected to your center? Or are you working in halves? Are you sliding around a lot when you're doing the exercise? That tells me you're not set up correctly. So if you feel like when you round back you slouch, you are. If you round back and your legs go with you, you're sliding. If you come up and your legs go forward, you're sliding. So the legs should be still on all the short box exercises. When you round back and up, or flat back and up, they should be still and they you should feel the hamstrings, the glutes, inner thighs, the outer hips. And so I would focus on that. Then what's touching what. Brad Crowell 13:56  Yeah, I think it's good. That workshop, I remember it. And I think you're also, I think we were down in Huntington when you were talking about the. Lesley Logan 14:03  Huntsville. Brad Crowell 14:03  Huntsville, I mean, where the boxes were, like, people had them in the wrong position, and they were a little unbalanced. And then, the bodies were shorter and longer, and you were just talking about the general idea, the concept of it. Because, yeah, I mean, (inaudible). Lesley Logan 14:16  We actually did a YouTube, we actually just did a YouTube video about where does the box go? It was a week ago, Sunday. Well, now that this is airing, no, it was months ago, but, it was a month ago. But if you're subscribed to our YouTube channel, that's where I answer questions about Pilates-inspired, I go way deeper into them. Unless you're an OPC member, then we get to go deeper on you and your practice on what you need. So thank you for this question. I hope that that helps. And.Brad Crowell 14:40  Yeah, subscribe to our YouTube channel and stay in the loop on all that stuff, and stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into Kristal DeSantis and her book and all the things. It's gonna be great. Brad Crowell 14:52  Okay, now let's talk about Kristal DeSantis. Kristal DeSantis is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist based out of Austin, Texas. She specializes in men's mental health, trauma recovery and sex therapy. She is the author of Strong: A Relationship Field Guide for the Modern Man, a groundbreaking resource aimed at bridging the gap in relationship dynamics by redefining healthy masculinity. With a passion for helping individuals and couples create deeper, more meaningful connections, Kristal brings a fresh, compassionate perspective into modern relationships. Lesley Logan 15:25  Yeah, picking up a (inaudible) conversation, you were clearly raised in a household where your mom was like, anything they can do I can do better, like, that's how your mom was raised. So you were, your mom was on the men's soccer team or whatever. So, you were raised in a household where your masculinity wasn't based off of you being better than your partner, and I think that makes a big difference where, in some households, what they're modeled is not that women can be independent and have their own things and have their own dreams and be in collaboration with their husband. I'm not saying every other male is like that. I'm saying I think a lot of males are raised like that, and I also know that there are a lot of women raised to be timid flowers that can break at any moment. So I think all these different things can be true, and we live in this really weird world where we get to see how you were raised made you an adult human being. And then also, I just want to give credit to there's a lot of parents out there who did the best they can, and their son still turned out to be some part of, dickhead, or their daughters turned out to be an asshole. So you could also do the best you can, and it didn't work out. But to what Kristal was saying that I really loved, in the podcast, she mentioned, it's not compromise, it's collaboration. And I thought her example, this is about marriage, I thought her, in relationships, I thought her example was actually really cool. She said, when artists, two artists come together to collaborate on a project or a song, they're always creating something better than when they were alone, because they're working together. So when Lady Gaga worked with that really famous blues person or soul whatever, I'm forgetting the name, and they're super famous, so don't attack, Brad's already looking it up, but people were like, oh my God, she's gonna ruin the music. Tony Bennett. She's gonna ruin the music. No, the music is amazing, and Tony Bennett's amazing, but what they created together was more amazing what the two of them could do by themselves. And so that's what a relationship is.Brad Crowell 17:11  Yeah. I think specifically with this point you were talking about how do you make a suggestion that somebody needs to go to therapy without it coming across as insensitive and commanding. She's clearly been through all of the conversations with people, and what she said is, like, how do you portray it in a way that doesn't sound like you're in trouble or you're going to see, you know, go sit in the corner. So I thought that was really good. And the way that she was talking about approaching it was, hey, together, we can do even bigger and better things. It's not a compromise, this is a collaboration. This isn't like an ultimatum or else kind of a thing, but I think that we will both be better if. Lesley Logan 17:48  Yeah, she also mentioned in the relationship thing, she said, it's multiplication, not addition. So be a whole person, do your work, and then find someone who's also whole, so you can create a whole, healthy relationship. And I thought that that was really cool, because my dad was really big on, like, no one completes you. You're not finding another half. You're a whole, right? Your life should be amazing, and then they just add to it. But I like how she takes it a step further, where it's, like, it's multiplication, actually it's compounding. When you're a whole person and they're a whole person, you compound, like, together, it's a compounding effect. And I thought that's really cool. Brad Crowell 18:21  Yeah, I dig that. I always said one plus one equals one, which isn't logical, you know, it's not a half plus a half equals one. It's one plus one equals one, you know? Lesley Logan 18:28  I'm glad it worked for you. Brad Crowell 18:30  Maybe it should have just been better if I did multiplication, because one times one is one. Lesley Logan 18:34  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brad Crowell 18:36  How about that? Lesley Logan 18:37  Yeah. But also, like. Brad Crowell 18:38  So, it's not addition, it's multiplication. Lesley Logan 18:40  Yes, yes. Brad Crowell 18:41  I love that. That's a better way to say it. Lesley Logan 18:43  And we all need to stop watching the movie where he's like, you complete me. That is the.Brad Crowell 18:47  Yeah, yeah, I know you. You mentioned that in the episode. What connected with me a lot was when the two of you were talking about, and this is what I was alluding to at the beginning of this pod, when you are raised as an empowered women, the stories of how we were raised, what we were raised to go after and accomplish, or how we are told to get purpose, they're now two different paths, right? I'm a strong, empowered woman. I can do everything myself. I don't necessarily need a man, whereas the storyline for men has always been she had three P's, and I can't remember what it was, provide, protect and procreate. Those are the three P's that she said. It is possible for those provide, protect and procreate to still happen with the storyline of the strong, empowered woman, but the expectation is what's shifted, right, of like, how do I provide, what she must be in need in order for me to provide, how do I protect? She's got to be weak for me to be strong. How I procreate, well, you know, that better be a collaboration. Lesley Logan 19:50  But I also, that better be, I also do think that like, it requires both people to redefine what those definitions are. Brad Crowell 19:57  Yeah, when she started to talk about that, she's. Like, hey, look, women, Butespecially women who have been raised with this new philosophy, we still have to understand that there's now a disconnect in the language and in the mentality, and so that's where I thought it was good to have empathy and also to redefine for men, I think she's right on the money, you know?Lesley Logan 20:20  Yeah, I really, I really liked it because it wasn't about us as empowered women compromising and going, oh, okay, I'll do these things so that they can feel empowered. No, it's actually if provide isn't them making more money than you, can provide be that they actually make the meals and they take care of the household, they take care of the kids. Can that be providing? Brad Crowell 20:39  Yeah, or she her, example was creating a safe, emotional space to thrive. I think it also comes down to, y'all didn't talk about this, but there's a ego with like, machoism with men, and I feel like that's where things get confused, because you can still be going after the three P's, that protect, the provide, the procreate, and not have the machismo that goes along with that. Lesley Logan 20:39  Yeah. And also machis, I feel like that is where everyone is getting it wrong, like. Brad Crowell 21:12  Somehow that's become the definition of a man. Lesley Logan 21:14  It is. Brad Crowell 21:14  I disagree with that. Lesley Logan 21:15  It's so weird, because it's not how you are. It's not how any of the male friends you have in your life. Brad Crowell 21:19  There's nothing alpha about that. Lesley Logan 21:21  No, oh, no. Also, if you have to say you're alpha, you're not, just so we're clear. But then I follow several really amazing dudes online who are very healthy forms of masculinity to me. It's just really interesting, because I'm like, what is going on with this disconnect? And it's just, it's actually very sad. It's almost like people are, they're afraid if the world changes, then they won't have a place. So if there's not dangerous men out there, then there's no one for them to protect us from. Is what's going on on social media, right? And it's like, actually, we can get rid of dangerous men who can still protect us from scammers, like you, my husband, makes sure I have a VPN on wherever I go, I can translate that as protection, right? Like, it doesn't have to be that you beat someone up at a bar for looking at me the wrong way. You know what I mean? Like you can actually protect by just making sure your partner's passwords are all created on a way that can't be taken. There's so many different ways we can translate this, and I feel like people are unwilling to be creative, but also maybe they were never raised enough, way that there was a spectrum or a possibility. Yeah. And so really, how do we re-educate an entire generation of people? I don't know. But I think what we can do, as everyone listening to Kristal, is go, okay, who's in my world? Can I have this honest conversation with, with just like one person. I can't change neighbors. I don't know, but I can, you know, we can certainly talk to people in our life around (inaudible). Brad Crowell 22:47  Yeah, I was gonna suggest her book is maybe beginning to the education of a entire generation, both men and women. Lesley Logan 22:54  Yeah, let's get it in libraries, let's get it in Boy Scouts. Brad Crowell 22:57  Yeah, all right. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into those, be it action items we got with Kristal. Brad Crowell 23:04  All right, welcome back. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Kristal DeSantis? She talked about something called the Heartbeat Exercise, which it was for emotional connection. She also mentioned that people have done this when they're dating. She explained, it's three points. It's a point of this is a conversation that you would be having with someone, but it's three points, a point of pride, a point of pain and a point of pleasure. Imagine it as a heartbeat, the ups, the downs, and the points where you connect. How it works. Point of pride, ask your partner what they are proud of, and then validate it. A point of pain, hold space for their struggles without fixing. Point of pleasure, celebrate moments of joy or connection. Lesley Logan 23:49  I like this. Brad Crowell 23:50  Yeah, I think it's pretty cool. The Heartbeat Exercise. She said we normalize talking about pain, checking in about it, and also about pleasure. Like, did you discover something new during our last walk or experience together? So, you know, it helps with communication, it helps with talking about feelings, it helps with going deeper. So it's kind of cool little exercise. I think it's neat. Lesley Logan 24:11  Yeah, so I loved the four positions of conversation. Brad Crowell 24:15  Oh, yeah, this is neat. This is kind of cool.Lesley Logan 24:16  Yeah. So this is to improve communication. So there's four positions. Position one is listening. Brad Crowell 24:21  Yeah, this was the four positions of conversation. Lesley Logan 24:23  Yeah, yeah. So position one is listening. Brad Crowell 24:26  Okay. Lesley Logan 24:27  Position two is offering empathy. Brad Crowell 24:29  Okay. Lesley Logan 24:30  Position three is fixing. Brad Crowell 24:32  Okay, listening, offering empathy, fixing. Lesley Logan 24:35  Position four is debating. Brad Crowell 24:37  Debating. Lesley Logan 24:38  So the way you use this is, first of all, you both need to know what these positions are. And second, she said, even put it like on the fridge, where you can see it. And then whenever you feel like you're not in the same conversation, you can say, can I ask you to move to position one, which is, just listen to me. Brad Crowell 24:53  Yeah, I think one thing to point out, just to help, because people can't see this right now, she said traditionally, it's been understood that women are focused more on positions one and two, which are listening and offering empathy, while men are focused more on three and four, which are fixing and debating. She said, so we often are passing each other in this because we're on the wrong communication track or position. So, one and two, listening, offering empathy. Three and four are fixing and debating, yeah, and, and, bless you. Hey, if you could just shift back to position one instead of sneezing. That'd be great. No more position four. Lesley Logan 25:32  You've been too much in the position three right now. So I'm gonna ask you to offer some position two (inaudible).Brad Crowell 25:38  Okay, okay. So that's actually exactly how you use it. Lesley Logan 25:46  That's exactly, we just did it. We're excellent. I really like this because I think here's what ends up happening in a relationship, someone says to calm down, which is mistake number one, never tell someone to calm down unless you want to be murdered. It's like, the most annoying thing, just calm down. You can't tell someone you don't want them to do. You have to tell people what to do. Like, that's just the way that it works. It's like that in Pilates, by the way. So if you can get each person on the page of what these positions are, and you can say, hey, I feel like you're really in a position three, and I just really need to be in position one, and if you can just take a beat and then the other person can understand that you're not correcting them, you're asking for your needs to be met. Brad Crowell 26:27  Yeah, I feel like we need, like, live action stick figure body symbols for this. Like, what if position one was like, okay. Lesley Logan 26:33  Oh, you want to do it like, the baseball team? Brad Crowell 26:35  You are in a position. Lesley Logan 26:37  No.Brad Crowell 26:37  And I need you in a position. Lesley Logan 26:40  I think, I think, at best, hand signals, but maybe magnets. I don't know. Brad Crowell 26:45  If there's ever a reason to watch YouTube that would have been it. Lesley Logan 26:47  That would have been it, that they missed it. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 26:50  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 26:51  Get Kristal DeSantis' book. It's great for both men and women to read, and then also check her out, because she and her husband actually do like couples retreats, and really do an amazing job working with couples. I also think it's important to state that you don't have to be in a state of need to go in and develop yourself as a couple. Brad Crowell 27:10  Sure.Lesley Logan 27:10  You can also do this when you're on upswing, there's always more to learn from each other, because we're always growing, right? So how are you gonna use these tips in your life? We want to know. Brad Crowell 27:17  We do. Lesley Logan 27:17  Tag the Be It Pod. Tag Kristal DeSantis. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 27:21  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 27:24  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Lesley Logan 28:01  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 28:03  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 28:04  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 28:10  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 28:16  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Danny Olinger, General Secretary of the CCE, talks about ruling elders and Christian Education. The OPC cherished the work of Christian Education and quickly developed specific principles of Christian education and pedagogy to guide its work. Those principles are available here and will provided a stimulating starting point for the continuing importance of Christian Education in the churches.Danny's three book recommendation for ruling elders are,R. B. Kuiper, The Glorious Body of Christ, (Banner of Truth)Edwin H. Rian, The Presbyterian Conflict.John Calvin, The Institutes of Christian Religion.A Program For Christian Education (1945) - Available hereOutlineI. Subjects  A. Covenant subjects    1. Communicant    2. Non-communicant   B. Non-covenant subjectsII. Aims  A. General    1. Noetic: knowing the doctrine      a. Bible history      b. Theology      c. Ethics      d. Church government and usages    2. Experiential: adorning the doctrine       a. Saving faith      b. Growth in grace        (1) Worship (inc. Sabbath Observance)        (2) Obedience        (3) Use of the means of grace        (4) Realization of the fruit of the Spirit         (5) Christian witnessing and service  B. Applied    1. With respect to covenant relation    2. With respect to age, ability, backgroundIII. Method  A. Requirements of method    1. Sound in principle     a. Scriptural     b. Pedagogically and psychologically sound    2. Efficient in operation      a. Conserving time      b. Utilizing best means available  B. Specific applied methods     1. Specific teaching types     2. Aids to teaching.    3. Expressional activitiesIV. ProgramProblems of integration  A. Chiefly designed for covenant subjects    1. Guided parental instruction    2. Pastor's instruction of covenant youth    3. Teacher and leadership training program  B. Chiefly designed for non-covenant subjects     1. Sunday Bible school    2. Weekday classes    3. Club program    4. Evangelistic meetings and propaganda   C. Dual-purpose programs    1. Weekday religious education     2. Vacation Bible school    3. Summer Bible conference    4. Young People's Society     5. Home Study programsThe Use of Pictorial Representations of Christ in the Work of Christian EducationAvailable here.

Lesley and Brad dive into a powerful conversation with seasoned investor Steve Selengut, who shares his best advice for building a portfolio that generates consistent income. With 45 years of experience, Steve breaks down complex financial concepts into easy-to-understand insights that will empower you to take control of your wealth. Whether you're new to investing or looking to refine your approach, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways on how to make smarter financial choices.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why most people don't talk about money—and why you should.How Steve's 45+ years of experience shaped his investment philosophy.The importance of diversifying your financial portfolio. How to generate consistent income from your investments.Why market downturns can present great buying opportunities.Understanding the 4%–5% rule for living off investment income.Episode References/Links:Cambodia October 2025 Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comSpring Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorAccessories Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistLove Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It - https://a.co/d/dhpZ3LjRetirement Money Secrets by Steve Selengut - https://a.co/d/caqcgnTEp. 352 with Tess Waresmith - https://beitpod.com/ep352Ramit Sethi Interview - https://beitpod.com/ramitsethi If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  People don't talk about money in their own households and their own marriages and their own relationships. They don't talk about money. And the truth is, if you don't talk about money with someone in your life, you better be talking about it with yourself. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the influential convo I have with Steve Selengut in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, go back and listen to that one, then listen to this one, or listen to this one and then listen to that one. Look, we're talking money. Brad Crowell 1:09  We're talking money, money. Lesley Logan 1:10  Investments and over here at the Be It Pod, we want to make sure that you are wealthy in your health and in your finances because then you can be as generous as you want to be in this world. And let's just be real, like you got to have something to fall back on these days. So I'm really excited for you to learn from Steve, because he, he had some really good advice. I understood it and when it comes to, like, the stock market and investments and portfolios, sometimes I'm like.Brad Crowell 1:36  Yeah, fascinating conversation from a career investor, 45 years. Lesley Logan 1:40  45 years. Brad Crowell 1:41  Of investing for people, and then now he's a coach. He guides people through the process. So pretty interesting, really, really enjoyable. Lesley Logan 1:48  We're gonna dig into our takeaways in a moment. But first, today is February 6th 2025. It is Pay a Compliment Day. About this day, nothing tears a person up quite like hearing someone say something nice about you. It's time to return the favor on Pay a Compliment Day. And although we shouldn't need a special day to show our appreciation, most of us need a little nudge right? We've often walked away from interactions wishing we had said what was in our hearts. “Will I embarrass myself?” “Is it appropriate?” All questions that plague what should be a simple articulation of the heart. Let's redeem ourselves on Pay a Compliment Day. Wanna give a shout out to my mom. We were in Nevada at our annual little (inaudible) moment and. Brad Crowell 2:25  That would be Arizona. Lesley Logan 2:26  Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, that was in Arizona. You guys were, I'm getting there today. My tummy is like on some antibiotics, and we're getting there, so I'm gonna make more mistakes. Thanks, Brad for being here to catch. Brad Crowell 2:37  Got you covered. Lesley Logan 2:38  So what (inaudible) with my mom is people just walked by, and my mom just gave, every random person got a compliment. Oh, I love your bangs. Oh, your sunglasses are so beautiful on you. That's a great sweater. Oh, that looks so soft. Like, like, every single person got a fucking compliment. And I was just like, how is she able to notice something nice to say to every single person? Also, anytime she would say, like, oh, you look like so and so, it was never an ugly actor or actress. It was always a beautiful person. And I just like, so you know what? She's a first grade teacher who has to, like, do everything on her own all the time. If she can pay a compliment to random people, you too can do that today. So just give it a try. Give it a try telling someone like, oh, I really like your shoes. And just walk away. You don't have to have a conversation. Just walk away. Brad Crowell 3:25  Yeah, you can just walk away. What's one of my favorite things to do? It is give people a quick little compliment and keep going, because then they go, oh, feels so good. Lesley Logan 3:33  Yeah, feels so good. So okay, go do that and let us know how it goes. Today is inching even closer to us going to Cambodia. I think we're like a week away, a little over a week away. Brad Crowell 3:42  From us leaving. Lesley Logan 3:43  We go to our February retreat. Brad Crowell 3:47  It will be February 23 is when things kick off over there. Lesley Logan 3:50  Yeah. It's pretty late for you to add yourself to that one. Brad Crowell 3:53  I mean like, you are more than welcome to make it happen, if you can. We'd love to have you. Lesley Logan 3:56  Yeah, but we're not going to stress out about it, because you can come on October. Brad Crowell 3:59  That's right. We have an October trip that we are lining up and, well, it's already lined up, so go check it out. The dates are on the website crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com. Come join us in October. Why? You ask.Lesley Logan 4:14  Because it's amazing. Brad Crowell 4:16  It is absolutely amazing.Lesley Logan 4:17  You get to do Pilates with us. You get to go to the temples with us. You get to go to a lotus farm with us. You get to go on a boat ride with us. You get to be in another place in this world where someone has already planned the entire thing out all you have to do is just show up. Show up to the airport. We'll pick you up from the airport. Like that is pretty freaking cool. You know? It's really, really cool. So. Brad Crowell 4:36  Your name on a sign. The whole nine. Lesley Logan 4:37  Yeah, oh yeah. You get a name on the sign. Oh yeah, you do. So go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot. We already have people signed up. April, we're gonna have spring training, which is for our Pilates lovers, so about a week long of Pilates events for those of you. And we're gonna nerd out upon a subject. More details will be to come. We might have also released them, and you would know if you were on the email list for the events. So opc.me/events, is where you can get deets on spring training. We're going to keep having some fun with Pilates stuff, and this is gonna be the only thing that we're doing on a virtual setup for public Pilates stuff outside of OPC. Brad Crowell 5:11  Yeah, no summer camp this year, we're doing spring training instead. That'll be the end of April. So make sure you get on that events waitlist. Next up, if you are at all taking money from clients, then you run your own business, believe it or not. So whether that is small and you've got four clients or a full blown studio or home studio, or you're renting from someone, I want you to come join me for a free webinar. We're going to talk about money. We're going to talk about how do you get new clients. We're going to talk about how do you connect with those new clients that you're going to go get. These are three big secrets Lesley and I have learned after coaching more than 2500 business owners, just like you, just like us, and it's allowed us to pass along this experience, this knowledge that we have. And I want you to join me for this free webinar. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator that is profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. Come join me live. And finally, we have. Lesley Logan 6:07  The final Pilates flash card exercise deck is almost ready. I know. So at the time that you're hearing this, we are done with the edits. I'm almost pretty sure. That's the goal. Our deadline was about this week.Brad Crowell 6:21  Photo shoot is done. First draft of the cards are done. They're probably putting them onto the. Lesley Logan 6:26  They're already on. Brad Crowell 6:27  They're already on the (inaudible) digital cards. That's how the edits are happening. Lesley Logan 6:31  How much Brad's a part of the whole process. Brad Crowell 6:33  We are darn close. We're darn close. But if you want the hookup, you gotta be on the waitlist. So, where are they going? Lesley Logan 6:43  opc.me/flashcardwaitlist Brad Crowell 6:45  There you go. Lesley Logan 6:45  Yeah, it's the slash and flash that's the problem. So it's the opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. That's where you're gonna go, because if you're not on that list, you won't hear about the presale and the presale's the best price it's ever gonna be. Brad Crowell 6:57  Yep, yep, yep. All right, so this week, we had an audience question for one of our tour attendees in Phoenix, Arizona. Lesley Logan 7:05  The last stop. Brad Crowell 7:06  The last stop. What an epic tour it was, by the way, my gosh. I mean, over 600 attendees. We did 8000 miles. We had an opportunity to see states we've never been to before. It was just lovely.Lesley Logan 7:20  Yeah, I loved it. I really enjoyed all of it. I had so much fun. And so when I got this question after the last public workshop on the last day of the tour, I was like, I was so impressed with myself, actually.Brad Crowell 7:35  Here's the question. She asked, "How do you keep your energy up after doing all of these events?" I think it was like 45 events, or something like that, over 34 days.Lesley Logan 7:45  And also, somehow, my team approved a class and two workshops after my bedtime. Truly, truly, if you guys are in my calendar, it says done for the day at 4pm so, and these things were at like 4:00 and 5:30 and six-something. And I was like, who did this? And my sister-in-law said. Brad Crowell 8:05  She's pretty sure it was my fault. Lesley Logan 8:06  Yeah. She said that would be your husband. That's exactly how she said it. That'd be your husband. Brad Crowell 8:10  That'd be your husband. Lesley Logan 8:11  Yeah. And I was like, no, ever, never, ever, ever, ever. So anyways, how do I keep my energy up? There's not one answer, okay? And like, also, I think you can take parts of this and apply it to your life, where you are and what you have access to. Okay, so first of all, last week, we talked about FemGevity a lot, and that's because part of the energy that I have is due to actually having someone really evaluate my health and make sure that what I eat is really good for my body, my hormone levels are really good for my body. That right there. If you're eating foods that inflame you you're going to be tired because your body's inflamed. So please, please, please, if you haven't called them, call them or work with a professional who is going to listen to you and make sure that what you're eating and how your hormone levels are appropriate for where you are in your life. Second, my Pilates practice is a priority, priority number one. So when I'm at home, I do it five to six days a week, sometimes seven, and I'm sitting here sore, just like getting back into it, because on tour, I don't get to do 30 full minutes, or even 15 full minutes. Sometimes I get like 10, but my Pilates practice is a priority. So when I'm on tour, every day is like, where are we going when I get my movement in, my movement practice is what allows me to have energy for you. It allows me to have stamina for you. It's allows me to not resent that you get to move and I don't get to move. So my personal practice is priority. I get almost 14,000 steps in a day, and all of that helps with my energy levels, that I can gift to you, that I can pour in to the people that I'm teaching. And then lastly, I've been really focused on sleep for the last couple of years, where this is the year we're really focusing on it. We're currently working with like a sleep situation that makes me hot or makes me cold, or whatever it needs to do, and that is a focus. And if you can get your hormones and food right, you can get your movement right and get your sleep right, I promise you you have energy for things you don't even want to do. You will. You just will. So did I miss anything? Brad Crowell 10:03  I think, like you said, it's been a combo of all the things. I think you're also relatively consistent with your schedule, and I think boundaries are really important part of that.Lesley Logan 10:12  You remind me of something I wanted to say. Thank you so much. That was a key word. That's why you're here, babe. Brad Crowell 10:17  Take it away. Lesley Logan 10:17  Okay, so there is a book called Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It, and I think we ordered it, or at least put it in my cart. At any rate, I haven't read it yet, but somebody said this about boundaries, and I am as what Brad said, I am a stickler for my schedule, and that is because then I can break the rules, right? But if I don't have a schedule, I don't have boundaries, and I'm gonna be tired all the time because I'm gonna be reassessing my boundaries and all that stuff. So my boundaries are really key. But in this book, Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It, it says. Brad Crowell 10:45  By Kamal Ravikant. Lesley Logan 10:47  Yes. If you are burning out, it is because you don't love yourself enough, because if you loved yourself fully, you would love yourself so much you would say no to things, because you know that it's actually a terrible thing for you to say yes to it. And so, like, to me, I was like, so proud of myself. I was like, oh, this self-love journey is working because I am not burning out.Brad Crowell 11:13  Well, even on the tour, and that's the thing, the environment completely changed. The morning routine completely changed. So there still had to be, even though everything was chaos, there still had to be boundaries, and it took us, this is our seventh tour, y'all, so how do we scale it up to be 34, 35 days long? Well, we've had a lot of practice, and we've got a lot of trial and error, and what we realized is that we don't want to teach more than six days in a row. Right? In fact, three or four days is even better, and then at least one day off, so that we can rest. We can enjoy some enjoy ourselves and like, help hit that reset button each time because we are go, go, go, go, go when we're on the road. Lesley Logan 11:55  And also to boundaries, like, your boundaries can change, might have to change depending on your environment. When I'm at home, I have one set of boundaries of how I work and how late I'll work till or how many days in a row. I don't work six days a week when I'm at home. But on the tour, we have different boundaries, right? My only responsibility when on tour is to do the tour, to do the social posts and to keep up with the team and our members. That's it. I know that sounds like a lot, but like, when I'm at home, I'm writing newsletters, I'm writing blog posts, I'm making videos, I'm making classes, I'm doing podcasts. Like we have so many other hats we wear, none of that happens, so that we don't burn out when there is chaos. So we have boundaries. So I think boundaries would be, of those four things that I said, sleep, hormones and digestion, and personal self-care and boundaries, right? If you take one thing away, pick one of those things that you go, you know, I really that is where I'm like, it's like, seepage. Is that what it's called seepage? Like, when you're like, losing there's like, a technical term in the world of, like, money or business, but like, you're losing energy, and it's going out faster than being put in. Look at those four areas and see which one you need to, like, plug a little hole, and that might be able to change your energy. So don't try to change all four at once. That's impossible. It's really, really hard. But change one, yeah. Brad Crowell 13:14  All right. Well, that was a great question. Lesley Logan 13:16  I loved it. Brad Crowell 13:17  If you have a question, you can ask them. You can text us at 310-905-5534 and just say hey question for the pod, or you can ping us on Instagram or leave a comment on YouTube, generally, just reach out. And stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this fantastic convo with a professional investor who breaks it down for us non-professional investors in just a minute, so we'll be right back. All right. Now, let's talk about Steve Selengut. Steve is a seasoned expert with over 45 years of experience as a professional investment manager. He managed over $110 million in assets for more than 130 families, focusing on helping clients achieve income independence through smart investment strategies. He is now an income coach, and he no longer manages money for other people. I think he was very happy to retire. He told us on the pod he's about to turn 80 years old. Lesley Logan 14:13  Insane. Brad Crowell 14:14  Which is amazing. Lesley Logan 14:15  And he's like cruising, and he's like doing all this, because he likes to help people with this. He's got all this information, and it can really help you make money on your own. Brad Crowell 14:23  Well, Steve teaches individuals how to manage their portfolios to generate consistent income, and he shares insights from his book, Retirement Money Secrets. Lesley Logan 14:31  Get the book. It's really informative and really easy to read. You know, we were out visiting some friends, and she and I were talking about getting help with our portfolios, because if you don't start when you're younger, at any age, where you feel like you can have some flexibility in trying things out, it can get scarier, and then you're limited on what your options are. So here's what I loved. He said a portfolio is really all your investment accounts. That's all part of your investment portfolio. You can have multiple things. I'm gonna use a bunch of acronyms right now. You can have your IRAs, your Roth IRAs, your 401(k)s, your portfolios got to be, you hear the word diversified, you got to have these different things in it.Brad Crowell 15:08  Yeah, it's stocks, it's bonds, it's insurance, all those things. Lesley Logan 15:10  If you're like, nodding along. Brad Crowell 15:11  Investment properties. Lesley Logan 15:12  Yeah, if you're nodding along and you're like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Okay, but here's a really cool way he described it. He likened a portfolio to merchandise on the shelves at the department store, okay? And then at the department store, I set a target price and a target markup, and I sell that merchandise because I know I can replace it. He said, when the market downturns, it's like putting things on sale. And this is where people get really nervous, and they actually start selling when the market downturns. But he actually wants, actually said, like, actually, when they're down, you shoot their bargains, just like anything that's at a department store that's on sale, it's a bargain, right? Brad Crowell 15:45  That's when you should be buying. Lesley Logan 15:46  That's when you should be buying. And so the same goes for the stock market. And I really like that because I have no idea what's going on in the stock market when this episode comes out, but we just had a meeting with our wealth managers a couple weeks ago, and I had not looked at the stock market, and it was like, very down. And I was like, okay, you know? And I was like, and we just gave you some money, and so you bought it on a bad day, which means we're getting a really good deal on some good stuff, and it's gonna go up. This is how during the Great Depression, that's when all these people got super rich. They bought all this stuff, and people freaked out, sold all their things, and these other people just scooped it up really cheap. And you don't have to, you can be like them. You, too, can buy your stock on a bargain in a department store and have some fun in your portfolio.Brad Crowell 16:22  I love it. Well, he also gave four practical principles of risk minimization, which are right out of his book. Okay? So, it's quality, diversification, income focus, and number four is avoiding emotional decisions. So let's talk about those. So, quality. What is quality? He said focus on companies that are profitable, well-established, and they pay dividends. You need to research how long has it been in business? Is this a profitable business? Are they paying out dividends to their shareholders? Okay? That's the game he likes to play. He focuses on only those kinds of companies. Diversification, number two. Avoid over-concentrating in a single sector or trend. When you dive into investment, you can start to realize, oh, I'm in the tech sector or I'm in the this sector, I'm in the that sector, the medical, the, all the stuff. And he said be diversified. Avoid over-concentrating. Don't put all of your investments into rapidly growing industries such as AI. Sure, have some industry AI stuff, but don't have everything in the AI basket. Third, income focus. Invest in securities that generate consistent income. Lesley Logan 17:29  This was a really interesting part of the interview, which, like, we don't have to go into because you can go listen to it. But there are ways of getting paid more regularly than just gathering up wealth.Brad Crowell 17:39  Yeah. Okay, so securities are, generally, they're understood as stocks, bonds, mutual funds or other financial instruments, but stocks and bonds, right? So when he's saying securities, generally, that's what he's referring to. He said many people make the mistake of automatically reinvesting their income into the same securities over and over again. It's a big mistake. So he didn't explain why it's a big mistake, but he alluded to it, and then I'm assuming he talks about it in-depth in his book. Number four, avoiding emotional decisions. He said stay objective and avoid falling in love with stocks that perform well temporarily. He said always prepare for market corrections. I think he talked about it in a way that was pretty funny. Basically, he's like, yeah, these guys are all working for me. Their company goes up and then I sell, I might buy them back again later, but I'm not stuck with these people for the long haul. He said that's not how I'm doing it. There's definitely different kinds of strategies for investing. It does take more focus. It wasn't quite a set it and forget it. He did talk about that a little bit, but it sounds to me like he's paying a lot of attention. Lesley Logan 18:40  He's different. Like, if you're like, Lesley, how is this different than Tess? He specifically said, I heard your interview with Tess, I do things differently, and so I wanted to bring him on, because I think it's important to have different ways of doing things. Tess really empowered us in a great way. And her course, was really great on, like, not a set and forget it, but kind of like, here's these things and watch these things. And like, don't stress so much, which is great when you're busy, got other things. And Steve is, like, here's how you can actually have an approach. It's a little bit more you're into it, and you can also have an income coming from it. You can sell, you can buy it back, and so it's a little bit more hands on. But I also think if that interests you, like, if you're looking for a hobby, why not try this? I don't know, our friend's husband, this is his hobby, and he.Brad Crowell 19:24  Yeah, so test this episode was 352, by the way, Tess Waresmith,. Lesley Logan 19:27  Yeah. So I was really intrigued with it, by the differences and what's possible. And I think we get scared of these things. I was listening to a pod you and I.Brad Crowell 19:35  (inaudible) overwhelming. Lesley Logan 19:36  Well, you sent me a podcast with (inaudible). And he was like, no, people don't talk about money in their own households, and their own marriages and their own relationships, they don't talk about money. And the truth is, if you don't talk about money with someone in your life, you better be talking about it with yourself. I think that if your partner won't want, doesn't want to talk about these things and like, you need to educate yourself, and you need to figure out a way to create a portfolio for yourself. You need to have these things. Because the reality is, is I really, truly want to make sure that anyone listening to this podcast is secure financially in case something happens. And Steve's book and Steve's interview, to me, gave really great insight on how you can make the market work for you and have income that isn't produced by you, necessarily, it's by you diversifying and making different decisions and checking in with things, and then also you need to practice being not emotional about things. I'm gonna let that go. I'll come back later. You know, I thought it was really informative, and I got really excited about it. Brad Crowell 20:32  Yeah and the podcast I shared to you was from the Smart Passive Income Podcast. He interviewed Ramit Sethi. He coaches people on building wealth and generally navigating money conversations between couples, and I thought it was a really interesting episode. We'll include the link to that in the show notes here as well. Lesley Logan 20:49  And because you're unlikely to get any coaching with for me, what's cool about Steve is that his book, he'll coach you through it, and that's really cool. Brad Crowell 20:57  Yeah, yeah. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into those Be It Action Items that you covered with Steve. All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Steve Selengut. He said hey, take a look at your portfolios. This is like the number one thing he suggested to do. Oh, actually, I'm gonna let that be to you, Lesley, the number one thing. This is the number two thing. Take a look at your portfolios. Look at the actual income production, where it says, dividends received this year. Dividends received this year. Okay? So you get a statement, the statement has a line item that says how much did you get this year? Dividends received. Or an amount what can you expect to receive over the next 12 months? Because they actually do give you a forecast, and you want to see what that is as a percentage of your portfolio that will then go into (inaudible).Lesley Logan 21:50  My takeaway. So your portfolio's income production, and that should say between four and 5%. So if you're working with your investor to adjust investments to generate steady income that's in the four to 5% range. And you know, people might hear a person who's like that, go, that's not very huge. Y'all, no one gets rich overnight. It really doesn't happen. Everything is like little steady changes here and there. So work with your investor to adjust investments that generate steady income in the four to 5% range. This range, here's why it's important, this range is critical for covering living expenses, especially in retirement. So the goal is consistent financial stability, regardless of what's happening in the market. So like, the market could be going up and down, but you are getting consistent things that you can live off of these investments, so you can be in retirement.Brad Crowell 22:35  Yeah, so a couple things to consider here, and this is what he was talking about why he ended up with the four or 5%. If you look at the market over the history of the market, it's like raising up an average 8% a year. So obviously, you want to be doing everything you can but the market is not necessarily your entire investment portfolio, right? The market is only one piece of the investment portfolio. So even though they say you want to be able to make that in the market, but then there are these other things. When you hire a financial advisor, you're also paying them a percentage. You're paying them fees in some manner. And so the number one thing is to make sure that they're making more than the fees that they're taking. But the second thing that they need to be making is money on top of that, because here's what the average person does when they retire, when you are no longer generating an income, your six-figure salary from your job, and you're ready to hang it up and enjoy retirement, let's just hypothetically say, you have a million dollars in the bank. If we said a million dollars, what are the (inaudible) times .4%, .04, that's $40,000. So the question is, if you have $40,000 can you live on $3,333 a month? And so he said, on average, people are living on the four to 5% of the money that's in their retirement portfolio when they retire where they're literally drawing that out, and that's what they use to pay for life, right? So if you have a million dollars in your portfolio, and you're living on four to 5% you're bringing in 40 grand. If you have $2 million you get to double that, right? So that's the goal here, is to understand how much money do you want in retirement, and then you can work backwards from that understanding, okay, I need to have X in the portfolio in order for me to live this lifestyle that I have for myself, have built for myself, right? So that's where he's coming from. He's clearly also had a lot of other success around that. But these are general investments tips, so. Lesley Logan 24:35  I really love when someone comes to the show that has had decades of experience in one thing, and is like willing to share so much information with us. Brad Crowell 24:43  Yeah, especially since we're not experts in that, that's pretty amazing. Lesley Logan 24:46  No, we're not. And he was really cool to me. He's like, you gotta read this book. Read my book because it's, everything I'm gonna say is in this book. And so I just really think that if you are someone who this is overwhelming, read his book, because it's, sometimes, reading the words is different than hearing the words, and then in the more you hear it, the more it starts to make sense. I know when we work with our wealth managers, I'm just like, okay, I actually understand what you said. You said words. I've heard those words 10 times. You've explained it seven, and now I know. So don't be afraid to ask questions. Don't be afraid to reach out to experts. But please don't put your head in the sand and not talk about your money, even with yourself, you got to be honest with yourself, because you'll need it someday. You really will. So, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 25:26  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 25:27  Thank you so much for listening to our podcast, or being part of our audience, for coming up and telling us you listen like it really does mean the world to us. When we're on tour we get to meet so many of you, like, I did this from the podcast. I have (inaudible) because of the podcast. Like, all these different things, and so, we are so, so grateful for you, and the show goes on because of you. So thank you, and make sure you share this episode with a friend who needs to hear it. These money ones are really good ones to share, because someone in your life is like struggling with this right now and needs some help and needs some advice, and you don't have to be that person. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 25:58  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 26:00  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 26:43  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 26:48  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 26:52  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 26:59  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 27:02  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell recap a thought-provoking conversation with Kristin Mallon, co-founder of FemGevity. They explore the importance of prioritizing women's health, redefining challenges, and flowing with life's changes. Discover actionable insights on embracing wellness and taking control of your health journey.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The importance of rephrasing challenges for a mindset shift.How women can better prioritize their health and well-being.The value of integrating medical and holistic approaches to health.Viewing life as a river: learning to flow rather than resist.Actionable tips for overcoming self-doubt and embracing personal growth.Episode References/Links:Cambodia October 2025 Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com Spring Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorAccessories Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistFemGevity - https://beitpod.com/femgevity If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  You gotta be in tune with things. So you have to have your goals and have your visions and have your dreams, and then also make sure that you're doing little check-ins with how it's going so you can go with it. Lesley Logan 0:10  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:51  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the enriching convo I had with Kristin Mallon in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now and go back and listen to that one, or listen to this one, then listen to that one. It's really okay. I know people don't like spoilers, but there's no spoilers here. It's just sometimes hearing things twice really helps you. And also I really wanted to have her on to talk medicine and health, and at the end, I really, we like went a whole different direction that changed my whole day. It changed my whole mood. I'm really into it. Brad Crowell 1:23  Yeah, it was a really fun conversation. And also, I was surprised having the other partner from FemGevity, I don't know, a hundred episodes ago? And then I didn't realize that Kristin was in the lineup too. So that's really cool. Lesley Logan 1:35  Yeah. Well, we're obsessed with FemGevity and this is not the ad that will run later, but you guys seriously, seriously, may this be the year that you take care of your health. Please. Come on. Lesley Logan 1:44  So today is January 30th 2025 and it's National Draw a Dinosaur Day. Brad Crowell 1:49  Oh, that's right. Say it one more time. Lesley Logan 1:50  It's National Draw a Dinosaur Day. Brad Crowell 1:52  Yeah, you heard that, right. Lesley Logan 1:53  Shout out to your nephew, our nephew, I guess, right? It's our nephew. We call him Ace. He calls himself Bubba. He got, like, a dinosaur, I don't know, shark, kind of hoodie, and he just walk around the house going, roar, right? And I just thought it was the freaking cutest thing. He's like, not even three. I was like, that is adorable. But do you want to know something? I have a journal that's like, doodle. What your doodle something here today? And I was like, how do I even doodle anymore? Like, I don't even have a pen anymore to doodle with, so I thought it'd be fun. And I think it's kind of in alignment with Kristin, because she had such a wonderful idea of like so what? Go draw a dinosaur, see what comes out, and throw it away if you don't like it. But National Draw a Dinosaur Day celebrates the mysticism and magic that surrounds these magnificent animals that once roamed the world eons ago. On this day, kids and adults paint and sketch all types of dinosaurs, cute, scary, jovial, wicked, etc, and have fun while doing it. So get creative. Have so much fun. By the way, this reel came across my Instagram that people are finding dinosaur bones all the time. They're finding them all the time, like you can just find them they're around. Brad Crowell 3:00  That's crazy. Lesley Logan 3:00  I know. I think that's really insane. People said to him, I don't find him. He's like, well, are you looking for them like you're not just gonna stumble, like you're just not gonna walk across. Brad Crowell 3:07  I don't find them. I don't find them. Where's my dinosaur from? Lesley Logan 3:11  Where's my dinosaur? Where's the fucking entitlement some people's comments online. I just want to go, what? Who raised you, what? And then I don't even want to blame their parents, because, anyways, whatever. Go draw a dinosaur. Lesley Logan 3:24  All right, upcoming, we are two weeks away from leaving for Cambodia for our February retreat, which means our October retreat is on the countdown, and you need to sign up for our October retreat and join us at crowsnestretreats.com. We're going in October. And if you keep saying, oh, next time, next time. This is your next time. Brad Crowell 3:41  This is your next time. You should totally join us. You know, we love this place. The experience continues to get better. We even have a few opportunities to join us before and after the retreat for some extracurricular activities. So if you are, like, super adventurous and a big hiker, hit us up, because we may be planning some things that we usually don't get to include in the retreat just because there isn't enough time, but we still like to go do them ourselves, and you might (inaudible) Lesley Logan 4:09  Smaller groups, but you know, we want to have a big group, because it's a big family, so come and then stay a little longer and have some fun with this. Brad Crowell 4:15  Yeah, what's coming up in April? Lesley Logan 4:17  So we have a spring training guys, and this is not baseball, but think baseball. So we're gonna do a really fun spring training in April, because it's all about Pilates. And spring training is, like, a couple weeks long in Arizona, and we're gonna do it online in a week, and it's gonna be for any Pilates lover of any level. We're bringing all the OPC teachers in on this. It's gonna be a lot of fun. So we'll have more details for you, but if you go to opc.me/events, you won't miss out on any of those details, and you'll be sure to hear about things first, in case there's anything special you could sign up for ahead of time. Brad Crowell 4:46  All right, for those of you who run a Pilates business, okay, that is a studio owner or a home studio owner, or if you are renting space for someone, if you are taking money from your own clients, technically, you run a Pilates business, and we are here to help you. Profitable Pilates, Lesley and I have been coaching businesses just like yours, just like ours, for more than seven years now. We literally have coached more than 2500 business owners just like you. And I am running a free webinar. We want to invite you to it, go to prfit.biz/accelerator where you're going to learn the three biggest secrets that we have uncovered after having been asked countless questions, creating so much content and creating so many courses and coach so many different people just like you. So come to this webinar. Come join us. You'll be able to put these into practice in your own business and move things forward. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator that's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. All right, finally. Lesley Logan 5:46  Finally, we have the last and final deck. It's getting closer and closer to the pre sale. And so if you want to nerd out on the accessories, and by the way, this deck is as universal as the mat deck is. Yes, there's a guillotine and a Ped-o-Pull in there, and don't let those words scare you. But most of the deck are things you can make from things at home or use household items or the props are not very expensive to purchase. And if you go to, where do they go, Brad, for this actually? Brad Crowell 6:15  Yeah, go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. Lesley Logan 6:17  Oh yeah, that's why I blocked it from my mind, because my list (inaudible) stuff doesn't like flashcard waitlist. It doesn't like that combo. So go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist to get on it. So you get the amazing presale price when that happens, and it's going to be in the next couple of months. So it's all around the corner. Lesley Logan 6:38  All right, we are going to get into Kristin's amazingness, but first we have a question from the audience. Brad Crowell 6:43  Yeah, we do, YouTube here, @etain.pilates asks, "Is it better to put the box over the shoulder blocks over gearing out the carriage if it has that option?" So obviously, we're talking about the short box on the reformer. Lesley Logan 6:59  Yeah, this actually came from a question on a question. So we actually did a live. We go live every Sunday on 9 am Pacific Time, you guys, on YouTube. So for my people who are listening to this podcast for Pilates, then Sundays at 9 am you want to join us for our live, where we answer your questions, unless you're an OPC member, then we answer them in the community, of course. Answered a question about, like, where the box goes for short box, because honestly, on the tour, I kept seeing people put the box in the wrong spot for their height. Brad Crowell 7:27  Yes. Lesley Logan 7:27  So here is the deal, my loves, I don't care what style of Pilates you're teaching, I don't care what reformer you are on, the box placement matters. It actually needs to help you have long, strong legs while doing the short box. And so if you were on the shorter side, you put the box in front of the shoulder blocks. If you're on the taller side, it's gonna go over the shoulder blocks. Usually there is a peg, a peg sent a little Canadian. There a peg and a shoulder block. There's like a peg. Brad Crowell 7:52  Oh a peg. I did not understand that. Lesley Logan 7:53  There's a peg. Can't say it peg and shoulder block. And there's space in there for the box. Please be kind to the box. Put it there. What etain is asking is because in that video, I talked about how you could also gear out to create more space for the legs. And so she's asking, is it better to gear out versus put the box over the shoulder blocks? And what I will say is, it's better to go over the shoulder blocks, if you can. Now, if for whatever reason, your box would be uneven or unsteady or unsafe, then obviously gearing out is fine, but ideally it is much faster just with a box over the shoulder blocks than it is to gear the carriage out. Remember, in Pilates, no matter what your style is, you're trying to actually allow for each exercise to flow into the next. You don't want that much time in between setting your equipment up because you lose your connections. All right? I hope that answers it. Send your questions in to us, and we'll answer them. Here, you can send personal questions, then you can send Pilates questions, and you can send whatever you want. We'll answer them. Brad Crowell 8:52  Yeah, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into this awesome convo that Lesley had with Kristin Mallon, the co-founder of FemGevity. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 9:00  Okay, welcome back. Now, let's talk about Kristin Mallon. Kristin is a certified nurse midwife and certified obstetrical nurse, and she's passionate about advancing women's health and well-being. She's the co-founder of FemGevity. She focuses on providing personalized healthcare solutions that address the unique needs of women throughout different stages in life. With over 20 years of experience, Kristin combines medical expertise with integrative approaches to empower women in optimizing their health and longevity. Lesley Logan 9:32  Yeah, talk about integrative. First of all, the first thing that I say that I love is we talked about a shared mindset and practice of redefining situations and challenges. So she said specifically to watch your definitions. For example, instead of saying it's hard to do X, she said, use phrases like, I'm working on doing X. I'm getting better at doing X or improving my X. It's a different definition than it's hard. What a great way to catch yourself. And you can actually include people in your family about this. You can say, if you ever hear me say, I can't, or it's not possible, or it's hard, then stop me so I can say, I'm working on, I'm getting better at, I'm improving. And see how that changes your brain waves and your energy. Brad Crowell 10:15  Yeah, it was, like you said at the beginning here, she is a wealth of medical knowledge, especially around female health, you kicked off the whole conversation going through a whole bunch of stuff that she's very excited about, and also a whole bunch of things that she sees industry-wide that are still, you know, needing to come up to speed. But then pretty quickly, the conversation shifted over to like mentality and philosophy, your approach to life, and her approach to life, and then her approach to being in a business having a partner, I just thought it was really fun. It was a great convo to dig into how she sees things while coaching people all around the country through her company. One thing I love that she said was she was talking about being in the moment, and how do you embrace the things that you are struggling with, whether that is your health or I can't remember a specific example, but she said, you know, when she finds herself getting frustrated, she has to remind herself the circumstances around the event don't matter. What matters is that the thing happened right? The state of being matters. So circumstances don't matter. Only the state of being matters. And what she means is that when you look at it that way, the state of being makes your circumstances. You view them differently. It's not what happens, it's what you do with what happens. Right? Things are going to happen, especially things that we don't have any control over, and it's what we do with those things that changes our perspective, our mental output. It even like, affects our body. Lesley Logan 11:41  Absolutely affects our body, but also, like, you know, you hear about these things all the time, like somebody was like, something bad happened to them, and then they created this big company that makes sure that no one else goes for that. I think, you know, if we can, not in a toxic positivity way, not that at all, but just in recognizing that this happened. Okay, take your grief, do your things, and then what are you gonna do about that and having that positive reframing around it so that you can change other people's lives, even. Brad Crowell 12:12  Yeah, she talked about how she views life is like being in a river, going with the flow of the river, versus trying to paddle in a specific pattern, like, if I only paddle in this way, I know I'm gonna get there, whatever there is, but we still don't have control over the river, and the river is gonna take us where we're going. So instead of head down and completely ignoring everything around us, get excited about the things that you're excited about and understand where the flow of life is taking you. My buddy said it to me 15 years ago when we were talking about music. I really, really wanted to get signed by a record label. And he's like, hey, man, each of these projects that we do, it's like a wave, and you just have to ride the wave. And I was like, I don't surf, you know, but obviously missed the point there. And the way that Kris is talking about it here is it's a river. We don't have control over the shape of the river. We are in the river, right? And what we can do is go with the flow. Lesley Logan 13:06  Yeah, yeah. I think that the ride in the wave, Brad, is just because, like, if you got get signed before the wave peaks, then you might miss it all together. If you are too late, then you get tumbled and crap. Like, there's a whole, there's a bunch of different things (inaudible) Brad Crowell 13:19  Or you could bail out of the wave before the wave crests, and then you might not have taken it as far as it could go. So. Lesley Logan 13:26  Yeah, you got to be in tune with things. So you have to, like, have your goals and have your visions and have your dreams, and then also make sure that you're doing little check-ins with how it's going so you can go with it. I think it's brilliant. I think it's very difficult. And so if you're like, ooh, I want to do this, just so you know, you're gonna fail many times at trying, and that's okay, because you are improving on flowing with the river. You are, what is it? You are working on flowing with the river, and you are getting better at flowing with the river. Brad Crowell 13:26  Yeah and look, if the river is at a standstill, then you better start paddling, you know? Lesley Logan 13:59  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a time and a place for all of it. I just adored her and I appreciated her honesty and thoughtfulness around women's health. I like that she was very specific. And also, here's where things can improve, and here's where things are really great, and there is access. You know? Now more than ever, there's access. Now we just have to go do it. And that can be hard for the women listening. It can be hard to prioritize your health and make sure that you are scheduling these appointments, and for you, you are actually making this a priority versus oh, I've got to do this thing in the house. I've got to call this person. Oh, we've got to do this. We got to do this staycation. I'll do it after. I'll do it when I get back. I'll do it next year. As a Pilates instructor, I can say, there are certain things that the sooner you come to Pilates, the easier it is for us to mitigate the things that you're wanting to mitigate. There's ways to improve your posture before it is not so changeable. The same goes for your health. Some of these things, the longer you wait, it's harder to get them back to where they're supposed to be. So, take advantage. Lesley Logan 15:01  All right, we have some, Be It Action Items, don't we, Brad? Brad Crowell 15:03  We sure do. So stick around. We'll be right back for those Be It Action Items. Brad Crowell 15:07  All right, welcome back. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Kristin Mallon. She said, hey, the best thing you could do right now is figure out your gut health by taking a gut test. And she said they're still figuring out the industry-wide standard but, generally speaking, she said, if you go in and talk to your doctor and you ask for a GI-MAP test, they will understand what that is, and they will know what you're asking for. Okay, so a GI-MAP test. She said it's really comprehensive. It gives you a clear picture of what's actually happening in your gut health, and it should allow you then draw conclusions. If the conclusions that are being drawn aren't making sense to you, you can take that GI-MAP test to somebody else, such as FemGevity and they should be able to help out. She said, GI-MAP and GI effects are the standard gut tests. So GI-MAP and GI effects. GI-MAP is by Diagnostic Solutions. GI effects is by Genova Diagnostics. So she said, generally, avoid the over the counter gut tests. They're not comprehensive enough. She also said that, you know, the tests about, what was it? What with the generational ancestry mapping or something? Lesley Logan 16:21  Oh yeah, ancestry.com, that kind of. Brad Crowell 16:22  It was the other one. I can't remember, but anyway, she said, you know, that's like the most basic of basic.Lesley Logan 16:28  Like 23andMe? Brad Crowell 16:29  Yes, yeah, I think it was 23andMe. She said choose licensed medical providers to get accurate information as they use PCR testing, which covers a wide range of pathogens, including yeast parasites and dysbiosis. So I'm sure you all remember PCR from COVID years. That's the first time I ever even understood what that was. And apparently it's just the medical thing that's always been around for other things, too. Lesley Logan 16:52  Other things. Brad Crowell 16:52  How about that? Lesley Logan 16:53  And also, like, I really want to emphasize, like, choose licensed medical providers. There's a lot of people out there who are able to do lots of things, but they're not using all of these amazing tests, and that can create confusion. So make sure you're using people like FemGevity who can really make sure that you're getting the full map. I am currently on a round of stuff because of my GI-MAP test that I did with them. We did a second one to make sure everything was good. And whoo, this is not the most fun experience, but that's not their fault. We're getting rid of some shit, and not specifically shit. We're actually getting rid of bacteria. Bacteria in my gut. At any rate, I've been trying to get rid of this for years, and this is the first time I've been able to get someone who can.Brad Crowell 17:37  Identify and understand what's going on. Lesley Logan 17:38  Identify it and give me the appropriate medications to let go of it. So yeah. Brad Crowell 17:42  And this is not the first time that you've had like, a revelatory conclusion drawn by them, and then. Lesley Logan 17:47  No, because the reason this exists. Brad Crowell 17:47  Because you've been with them for what, like almost a year now? Lesley Logan 17:51  Almost a year, almost a year, we're at, like, eight months, nine months, this particular thing was just because we actually did a second test to make sure we got everything, and this little bugger is stuck around, so we get to do it again, and that's not fun. But you know what? I'm super grateful I have them to do this test, because now I know it's not something new, it's something old that's just hanging on. Brad Crowell 18:13  Yep. Lesley Logan 18:13  We're working on improving it. Brad Crowell 18:14  Yeah. Well, what was your biggest takeaway? Lesley Logan 18:16  Okay, this is the coolest thing. This is definitely for my people who are struggling to make a decision, whenever in doubt, follow your highest excitement in any given situation. So there's no insistence or assumption to the outcome, but use it as a bread crumb trail that will lead you to your biggest and best self. So when you're in doubt of like, what to do? Where is the excitement coming from and follow that. And I think that that's really cool, and I also think that that's probably the uncertainty choice, but it's the one that you're most excited about. And when you're excited about something, you'll do it. Trust us. Brad and I have a project that he's going to work on this weekend with the laundry and four and a half years later, so clearly not excited about it, but now we're going to get excited.Brad Crowell 19:00  Now we're excited. Lesley Logan 19:00  Now we're excited. We're getting excited. Brad Crowell 19:02  I got excited, took action, and it's all happening. Lesley Logan 19:04  Yes, yes. But you know, that's what happens when you follow the other thing. So follow your highest excitement. I adored her. I want to be friends with her. I want to be friends with her and Michele. I want to hang out. I just think that they're the greatest and what a cool partnership that they are. And I was just, really wanted to start the year off with her. So you guys, you know what to do. You have to share, send a review, give us to a friend. Let Kristin and the Be It Pod know your favorite takeaways. We want to know them. They're really, really fun for us. Brad Crowell 19:31  Yeah. Tag FemGevity. Tag Lesley. Tag Be It Pod. Lesley Logan 19:35  Yeah, yep. If you have no idea how to tag, then just do what you know how to do to get the compliment out there. It's really, really great. Lesley Logan 19:41  Also, we have a special link for FemGevity. Lesley Logan 19:44  Yes, beitpod.com/femgevity. And if you tell them we sent you, then you are going to also get 20% off your first month, I believe. So there you go. Brad Crowell 19:56  Yeah. So we'll put that link in the show notes as well. Lesley Logan 19:58  Yeah, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 20:01  Yeah. Bye for now.Lesley Logan 20:02  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 20:45  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 20:50  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 20:54  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 21:01  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 21:04  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley Logan highlights the transformative power of gratitude, sharing her own win of overcoming a nighttime driving challenge with the support of loved ones. She celebrates community wins that embody resilience and progress, from tackling business milestones to finding joy in personal achievements. This episode is a heartfelt reminder that leaning on others and embracing gratitude can fuel perseverance and meaningful growth.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The transformative power of gratitude in navigating difficult times.Christine's creative approach to building her client base and celebrating her anniversary.Sonja's big steps forward in launching her new business and staying focused.Lesley's personal win of overcoming her nighttime driving challenges.A reminder that leaning on others can be a strength, not a weakness.Episode References/Links:Havva - https://beitpod.com/havva If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hello, loves. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast on a Friday. That means it's Fuck Yeah Friday and it's time to celebrate some wins. And I'm gonna be really honest, we are re-recording this. So I recorded a bunch of stuff before we left on tour, and then this one didn't work, so I am kind of winging it a little bit, and I wanted to repeat some of the stuff that I know I can repeat because I've saved it, and then I actually have to change some things, because now we're in real time with this. So first of all, you, let's be real, it can be really hard to be like, fuck yeah, it's Friday when it feels like everyday there's some more devastating news. Like, on the time that I'm recording this, Brad and I have watched all the videos, and new videos of what is going on in Los Angeles, the place we called home for 14 years, the place our friends still call home, and it's hard, right? So if you, how, like, how do you have a win when, like, you are looking at such devastation. And that comes after we were in New Orleans two days after the terrorist attack, and we live here in Las Vegas, where there was an incident, and it's like, it can just be really hard. So I just want to say, like, I never want FYF to be glib and like, not taking into account that, like, shit is happening, right? I also want to be real and say like, if you're not going through the -ish, then you must be doing things to make yourself strong, energized, generous, like you had, and only way to be generous is to have an abundance of energy, stamina, money, whatever, so that when devastation happens, you can support others without it affecting you in a way that's negative. We had someone come in into an agency group a while back to my first assistant, talking about how to advocate and how to be an advocate. And something that she said, and something that, like, has always stuck with me, is like, you can only advocate, like the, if you look at a Venn diagram, like what someone needs is one circle, what you can do is the other circle. And so, like, the overlap is the advocacy, right? And it's never going to be a circle on top of a circle. It's going to be, sometimes it's going to be a sliver, because you're going through your shit, and sometimes it might be like, like a crescent moon, and sometimes it might be half. But what I can say is, like, if you have the energy, strength, stamina, if you have invested in yourself and in your dreams and in your stuff, you can then have things to give to others when they're in need. It is really nice that I have some time in my schedule, because I created that a year ago, that as information about support comes up, I can share that, right? I have dedicated to have a following that I love and that I care for, and that can look to me for resources, and I can do that. And so anyways, I say all this because sometimes we're like, how, we can feel helpless. And so how can there be a win when it just feels so helpless? And sometimes there isn't anything we can do. And sometimes it's just sitting there and texting friends, like, I'm there for you. And sometimes it is offering up a room. I had a friend offer up a room, and she said, we have dogs, and if your dogs are friendly, you can come and so like, just know that, like, not everything has to be you giving up time or money or place because you might not have it, and sometimes it can just be resources. But most importantly, you can't do anything for anyone else who's going through shit if you haven't taken care of you. So anyways, to my LA people, my people who have people in LA who are going through something right now, who have your friends or your family members or friends of friends have lost everything. It can just feel heavy. And how do you start a year? How do you take action when it just feels like, what's the point? And to that, I say we gotta enter the year slowly, and we gotta figure out, like, what is it that we want more than anything and then truly stick to the values that we have when it comes to making decisions. And it's not going to be easy. No, it never has been though, never has been. It's just that, you know, some of these things haven't felt like they've come so on top of the other things, and they are feeling like that right now. And I don't, I don't have a crystal ball. I can just say that, like, what I focus on first is taking a walk every day, because walks really calm the nervous system, and I really get in touch with myself on what I need. And if I need a break, I take a break. And if I have energy to do more, I'm doing more. And it can be really easy if you were raised to be a people-pleaser or to like give more of yourself than others, to feel like you're being selfish, right, when you are taking time for you. But you know what? It's not selfish because you aren't going to be the version you want to be to others if you don't, just won't. Lesley Logan 5:20  So anyways, that was a long intro. I hope it makes you think. On another win, I'll talk about something else that I'm super excited about, but I'm supposed to be remaking this one. So okay, I'm going to tell you something that inspired me from the internet, because sometimes that can be accessible. But this one is from the Female Quotient Instagram, and it said, "We're not crying. You're crying." When, I'm going to say her name incorrectly, I hope I say it as close as possible. Berru Merve Kul, a visually impaired 22-year-old woman, walked onto the stage during her graduation ceremony, the staff at the university also invited her mother, Havva. Havva was presented with an honorary degree from the University of Sakarya in Turkey for reading her daughter's lecture notes to her during her four-year course in law. She helped her with homework as well, as the university didn't have the resources to help visually impaired students. Without Havva's perseverance, her daughter's dream of becoming a lawyer may not have been realized. Bravo!" So this mother helped her daughter, who's blind, get a law degree, which is her dream, and so that mother got an honorary law degree. And you know what? Here's the deal, that really does, we can go, why didn't that school have visual, like, impairments resources? Not everyone has these things yet. Not everyone has realized that. Not everyone has done that. And so that does suck, but we can actually focus on the win in it. And that's what the point of FYFs are, is like the what's the win in this? And the win in this is what a cool thing that mom could do to support her daughter, and how cool that Turkey now has a visually impaired lawyer who can actually make change, right, who can actually affect change? I think that's really cool. So that really inspired me. Lesley Logan 6:55  All right, so let me hit you up with the wins of yours that you sent in. Here we go. Christine Eschen, she's an Agency member and eLevate grad. She said celebrating my 27th wedding anniversary with my soulmate and husband today at our third annual blues party, and it was the most successful one to date. Had a client late canceled this week, and I held my boundaries, charged her and enjoyed an extra hour to myself. And I'm continually blessed by a local day spa that keeps my flyer up in front of a cookie jar for everyone to submit their info for a drawing for a private and I keep all the names for my email list. Got together this week via Zoom with my Agency family members, Heather and Kim Young and yeah. So anyways, I love that. I love look at all those wins in there. How freaking cool. Way to go, Christine, and way to just be consistent and keep showing up. And congratulations on your anniversary. Lesley Logan 7:41  This next one is from Sonia Ahmed. She's an eLevate grad and an Agency member, and she wrote I got a lot ticked off, to prep me for my new biz and a new country tax biz number, finalized my logo and new business name, registered my new business name, purchased a new URL for a new biz name. Lots of other little bits, like working on Canva. It feels so good to get some focus back. I still have some way to go, and many other admin tasks, but these ones were the big ones that needed doing first before I could move on to other tasks. So, way to go, Sonia, for taking off the non-sexy stuff, and thank you for celebrating the non-sexy stuff with us so we could celebrate, like, yes, you guys, it is a win to, like, do the logistics in the business. It's not the thing that's sexy, it's not the thing that goes viral on Instagram, but it is the thing that is important in your business. Lesley Logan 8:24  All right, so my win is, you guys, I drove five and a half hours at night and didn't freak out. I share that with you because I don't like to drive, and I get really stressed out. I have to get, like, a really big tunnel vision. I have a really hard time. But we, at the last day of our tour stop, Brad and I bought a car, and it's a car that I've wanted for a really long time. It is a car. It's like a dream car for me, and it's not a new car. It's a new-to-me car, it's new-to-us car, and we call her the OG and we have not had a car since 2018 and we have been kind of just waiting. So I don't, anyways, I don't have a car to, like, go, just to go get coffee, and I just take the OPC huge van to go get coffee, which means it has to have open air parking, right? All the different things. So it's not actually really easy. And then sometimes when Brad and I both need to go somewhere, like, I'm borrowing my dad's car as a 41-year-old. So at any rate, we got a car, and I was just like, let's just ship it. Like, you know, let's just ship it because it's 100 bucks in gas, it's $500 to ship, like, and also because I didn't want to drive at night by myself. But guess what? We decided to do it because one, I was so excited to see her, she's so beautiful. Second, we wanted to get her home, we have things to do. We have a reason we need a car. So I drove her. Brad drove the van. And actually, you know what? To pass the time, I just talked with my husband on the phone and our, his friends, like, through the whole drive. And so I'm calling it a win, because normally that would stress me out. I like, definitely, I will say what set me up to have a win is to have a plan of what to do in the car so that I could, like, not be distracted, because it's new. You know, when you drive a new car, you're like, where are the buttons? Second, you know, I had lean on people. My husband knows I struggled driving at night, and he made sure he was in front of me the whole time and that he, like, he was the one calling friends, so I could just answer with my little click of my air pod. And so it's a win, because I lean on people and accepted like there's just some things about me that are never gonna be amazing. I'm never gonna be an amazing nighttime driver. But I drove five hours at night. We made it home, and I washed my hair, and that's the second win. Way to go. I'm patting myself on the back. Lesley Logan 10:25  So the next thing that we do in these, FYFs, if you're new to these, is, after we celebrate your wins and a win of mine, we draw an affirmation. So this is from a card deck that my photographer, Monica Linda got me like, years ago. And this, I don't even know the deck name, so I can't even give it to you. It says gratitude changes everything. Gratitude changes everything. It certainly does. You know what my therapist said to me one time? She said, gratitude and judgment can't live in the same space. They don't hold the same energy. And so if you are feeling judgmental about yourself, start naming things you're grateful for, and you can change that tune right around. So gratitude changes everything. Lesley Logan 11:01  I love you guys so freaking much. I'm really excited for what this podcast has to offer this year. I'm really excited for the guests you're gonna hear, some guests I'm bringing back. And please keep leaving reviews. Please keep sharing this podcast with a friend. Please bother us and tell us how the episodes are affecting you, because that's how we pick more guests. So please do not ever think I'm so busy I can't respond. I will manage my own time. You can send me in the things that you are loving so that we can continue to support you on this journey. Because you guys, there's no crystal wand that's going to make everything beautiful and amazing tomorrow. So we're in this together, and so we want make sure this podcast is supporting you and where you're going. Love you all so much. Have an amazing day, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 11:42  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Brad Crowell and guest co-host, Clare Solly, explore key insights from Lesley's conversation with Chriss Janssen, life coach and author of Grace Yourself: How to Show Up for the Sober Life You Want. They discuss how to stop tying happiness to outside approval, why adaptability fuels success, and the power of showing up despite perfectionism or setbacks. Listen in to learn how to refocus on commitments and sidestep self-sabotage.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why linking happiness to others' approval sets you up for failureHow to be flexible in handling life's unexpected twists.Focusing on commitments instead of fleeting motivation.Adjusting rules to serve your outcome instead of hindering it.Remembering your 'why' when the going gets tough.Episode References/Links:Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://lesleylogan.co/retreatsCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorLesley's Birthday Surprise - https://opc.me/birthdayChris Janssen Coaching – https://chrisjanssencoaching.comClare Solly – https://claresolly.com If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  We should ditch the rule of "I'm measuring my happiness based on how people like me." Ditch the rule and just go after the outcome of "I'm going to be happy."Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Brad Crowell 0:55  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap, obviously, I'm Brad here today with a very special guest of ours who's stepping in for LL, Clare Solly, one of Lesley's best friends, who has been both a guest on the pod and been a recap host many times now, she's an author and actor. She's LL's slingshot friend, if you remember from Episode 19. She lives in New York City and generally kicks ass and takes names. Clare, welcome, welcome back.Clare Solly 1:23  Thank you. Thank you. The kicking ass list is very long these days, so I'm glad to be here. I'm so excited. I love this pod. And you know, long time listener and I'm always delighted to jump in.Brad Crowell 1:36  Well, thanks for doing that. Today, we're going to dig into the grounded conversation that LL had with Chris Janssen in our last episode. If you have not yet listened to that, feel free to pause this today, right now. Go back, listen to that, then come back and join us. Honestly, it's an incredibly heartfelt episode. She comes across as so kind and thoughtful.Clare Solly 1:56  Yeah, I just want to, like, get a blanket and snuggle in and, like, listen to her talk.Brad Crowell 2:00  Yeah, and I'm very intrigued by her book. I'm intrigued by her journey. It's worth going back checking that out. But before we get started today, we got a couple things. Clare, why don't you tell us about today? Clare Solly 2:12  WNational Word Nerditations, everyone, officially, Today is January 9th and it's National Word Nerd Day, which, if you know me in person, I totally am a word nerd. We celebrate National Word Nerd Day by enthusing about our favorite words, which is magnanimous and the importance of language in our culture, and whether you know what to say or always have a foot in your mouth, words are essential to success and progress, and word nerd day gives us the opportunity to learn some new words. So go flip to a page in the dictionary and find a word you don't know and celebrate Word Nerd Day.Brad Crowell 2:49  Yeah, I love that. I just typed what new word should I learn today? And (inaudible). Okay, okay, this is kind of funny. All right. Berate, this is Google's AI, berate, beseech, bestow, cease, butthurt. Really? I didn't know that was formally a word now. I thought it was two words. Apparently it's one word.Clare Solly 3:19  There you go. Learn something new everyday.Brad Crowell 3:21  Humblebrag, one word, apparently. I thought that was two words. Touch grass. That is two words, come on Google, fail, fail, fail. That's hilarious. I'm all about words myself. I think my vocabulary grew dramatically because I was a avid reader when I was a kid, and it's so funny. I just started listening to another book, and I had to slow it down because the author is on another level of words and our normal vernacular that we use all the time. I can listen to that at like, times two times three speed, and I can process the information, no problem. But I cannot listen (inaudible).Clare Solly 4:00  (inaudible) so you have to process at high rate of speed.Brad Crowell 4:04  But it's funny, because I had to slow it down to like, one five and I was like, man, it's been a long time since I listened to a book this slow, because he's using words that I have to think about before I can understand what he said. And then when you're trying to do that, you missed the next thing. I'm a big fan. I love it. I think reading will change all that. But before we get to Chris Janssen and we got a couple amazing things, here's what's coming up in the LL, the Brad future and the dogs here, although they don't get to join us for this first thing, we're going back to Cambodia in February. Clare Solly 4:34  Yay. Brad Crowell 4:36  Yeah, I'm so excited to just slip out of (inaudible) Lesley and I are gonna hop on a plane. We're gonna fly over there and prep everything for our upcoming retreat. We have an incredible group of amazing women coming with us, and one good man actually it's the son, so it's gonna be a mom-son coming. Yeah, that's gonna be really cool. And apparently he's a traveler, as it is, so I think mom's very excited that the two of them are gonna be able to share this trip together. But February is only, I think, five weeks away right now. There is still time to come. If that's something you're interested in doing. I know it's a bit short for an international trip to the other side of the world, so we have just made the announcement that Cambodia in October is also going to be happening, but it's only being announced to people who are on the waitlist. Since you're listening to this, and you might not be on the waitlist. I'm going to tell you how to find it. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com and you will actually see all the information on there. We are running a special offer. So if you're curious about what that actually looks like, it will be on the October retreat. There is a window for that, so don't wait. Go check that out right now. As you heard us talking about through November and December, Lesley was in Los Angeles doing the accessories, flash card deck photo shoot. And man, it was the journey. We crashed with some friends that were like five minutes away from the studio, and Lesley spent an entire week busting up the guillotine. I mean, it was crazy. All the things. We had some amazing photo shoots there, and it was a lot of fun. And we can't wait to share those with you on the upcoming deck that's going to be coming out during the summer, this summer, for the accessories flash card deck. It's the last one of six decks. Go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, and we'll give you the biggest hookup that we ever offer for people, only the people on the waitlist get the hook up on this, and it's a nice discount. So make sure you do that now. This is my world here. If you are feeling stuck in your Pilates business, I can't wait to share with you three massive secrets that Lesley and I have learned after coaching more than 2500 businesses, small businesses just like you over the past seven years, because Profitable Pilates just turned seven this month. I can't even believe that. Clare Solly 6:48  Wow. Brad Crowell 6:49  I'm now offering a webinar. It's been amazing to share this information and also just connect with additional Pilates business owners and fitness business owners. But if you're feeling stuck with your money, if you're feeling stuck with getting new clients, then come join me. This is a free webinar. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O, dot biz slash accelerator. And come join me for a free webinar. I'd love to meet you and see how we can support you in what you're trying to do. And then lastly, it's going to be Lesley's birthday at the end of this month. And as you all know, we always make a big deal out of it at the end of January. So stay tuned, because there might just be something special happening over at OPC. Join the countdown. Go to opc.me/birthday, and you'll be the first to get the big reveal. That's opc.me/birthday, but first and finally, before we get to Chris Janssen, Clare, we had an audience question, and the audience was an audience of one. It was the audience of Lesley, and she's like, I'm writing a question for Clare to answer. So what are your goals, and do you set them for 2025?Clare Solly 8:01  You know, it's hysterical. It's hysterical that she asked this question of me, and I feel like she sort of set me up to say it, because for years, she and I have talked about like we we don't make New Year's resolutions. We don't make goals. Brad Crowell 8:13  Clearly, she knew this. Clare Solly 8:14  We don't make resolutions, but we do, you know, we have, I think for me, like we used to say it was a goal, and now it's like a focus. I am trying to be more present in my life and just sit in my humanness and go, I'm here to live and to breathe them into experience and whatever. And I actually saw something at the very end of the year, and it was like, go get a jar and at the end of every week, write on a piece of paper, something good that happened to you this week, and then on New Year's Eve at the end of the year go through, or New Year's Day, go through and read all the things I'm not good.Brad Crowell 8:49  That's like the coolest advent calendar that isn't an advent calendar. Clare Solly 8:53  Right? I'm not necessarily good at doing, like, the weekly journal entries, or those ones where, like, you have a journal, where you, like, write a sentence every day for five years. Like, I always think that it's a good idea. And then, you know (inaudible).Clare Solly 9:04  But then in practice, life lives. Clare Solly 9:07  But I'm gonna put this on, like, in my kitchen so I see it every morning, or I'll make it my Sunday thing. I'll sit down and I'll write out, like, something good that happened. Like, I'll put it maybe an alarm in my calendar or something. Brad Crowell 9:18  That's what I was just gonna say. If it's not on my calendar. It does not happen. And then I also, I use Hey Siri all the time, and she's going to talk to me now, because I just said that, yep. I just say, you know, remind me. And you can make a reminder in your phone. You can make it a weekly, recurring thing. And I believe with the new release on iOS, it actually just inserts it into your calendar as well. Clare Solly 9:41  That'll be, yeah, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna try that. We'll see how it goes. You can have me back next January, and we'll talk about that. Brad Crowell 9:48  We'll keep you posted. That's really cool, because what an awesome tool. And here's what's cool about that, too. It doesn't have to just be like, Okay, throw those ones out and start next year's. You could actually keep those. You could put those, the way I'm imagining it, if you're putting them into a jar, then maybe they're on like, a long, thin piece of paper. You could eventually just put those into a book, you know, and then that could become your journal. Five years from now, you got five years of those once a week. You got 250 of them. I mean, what an amazing way to celebrate life.Clare Solly 10:21  And it's funny too, because it's like there are some things we go through day to day that are or week by week, that are little wins, or that feel like they were a gigantic thing this week. But like, you look back in hindsight and you're like, okay, great, I did that. Or you can't even remember when you did it, so I don't know. So now (inaudible). Brad Crowell 10:40  I just imagine passing that along years from now, you know. Like I'm thinking, what if my grandparents did that, you know? And I'm like, I've got this weird window until like 1953, you know, that could be really cool. Anyway, I love it. I think that's a really clever idea. I think the more that we.Clare Solly 11:00  Celebrate little things? Brad Crowell 11:02  I was gonna say New Year's resolutions just get me annoyed. We are fighting perfectionism, and I think that the new year's resolution sets us up for failure, because if life lives and something jacks up the week and you forgot to do the thing, what is the first inclination? Blame yourself. I fucked it up again. And instead of that, I feel like I like the guidelines or the goals, you know that aren't this like, I'm gonna start exercising every day. I'm gonna quit drinking for the month of January. I'm gonna whatever it is. I think when we set it as like this concrete thing, it ends up becoming just one more rule that we have to live by.Clare Solly 11:40  I mean, I think it's a nice idea, especially for those of us in the northern hemisphere where it's very cold and it's winter, we have nothing else to do but to like, focus on ourselves. But there's only so much nasal gazing, navel, I sound (inaudible).Brad Crowell 11:55  How do we gaze up our nasal? Clare Solly 11:57  Navel-gazing that you can do before it becomes like you're just picking at a scab and you're that perfectionist still trying to chip away, and it's like I am who I am at this point. And yes, there are things that could be tweaked, and there are ways I could be healthier, and there are ways that I could do better, but honestly appreciating who I am now. And we always say meeting someone else where they are, but meeting myself where I am right now. Like, let's go there, let's have that (inaudible) 2025 so.Brad Crowell 12:28  Hey I love that. That's a good New Year's resolution. Let's meet ourselves where we are. Clare Solly 12:32  Yeah. Brad Crowell 12:35  I love it. Okay, stick around. We'll be right back, and we're gonna get into Lesley's interview with Chris Janssen. Brad Crowell 12:42  All right, now let's talk about Chris Janssen. Chris Janssen is a life coach and author who specializes in assisting high-achieving perfectionists in navigating performance pressure, overcoming self-sabotage and rewriting personal narratives. Her second book, Grace Yourself: How to Show Up for the Sober Life You Want, offers practical tools and exercises to help individuals find meaning in life's uncomfortable events. Passionate about making transformation accessible. Chris guides people through the process of personal growth, empowering them to achieve the life they desire. I love it. Clare Solly 13:20  It was a great, great podcast, like I took so much away from it. So this is gonna, you know, buckle up, go back and listen to it again, like it was so good. One thing she said I really loved was high-achieving perfectionists attach meaning to life, to events and circumstances that are beyond our control. That, again, Lesley and I both claim to be recovering people-pleasers and perfectionists. So the fact that, yes, we attach so much, you know, we tried to go to the grocery store today, and instead we had to answer a phone call or family dropped over. You know, we just had holidays, right? So it's like, so many unexpected things happen, and then arguments arise, conversations arise, and you weren't necessarily ready to handle those because it was the holidays, and you just wanted to be like, happy and live through all that. Or we just talked about goals and resolutions, right? You set out to have a goal and a resolution and life lives, and you just can't stick with what new you know? Brad Crowell 14:24  Or something gets in the way and it blocks that is out of your control. And I think one of the things that Lesley said during the interview was really relevant to the people that we get to coach. She said that, okay, cool. Now my next goal is I'm gonna go out and get four new clients, and that's not in our control. We can certainly do all the things to put ourselves in a position to receive new clients and to connect with people, but we can't make the decision for them to actually be our client. Right? So if we're like, I didn't get four new clients, then you feel like a failure, but that shouldn't necessarily be the thing that, you know, like, what you can control is your messaging, the effort you put in getting it out there, putting yourself in the place where you're going to meet those people. You can control those things, but you can't control them being like, yes, right? Clare Solly 15:20  You can control your output and your reaction, but that's all you can control. Other people rolling around this life are having their own journey, and they have all their own life lifeing happening. I'm feeling that Brad, by the way.Brad Crowell 15:32  And timing is so much a part of it. Yeah, yeah, steal it out. Steal away. I don't know where what that, that just happened on the pod at one point, but I don't remember the specific moment. But yeah, I think, you know, there's a lot of shame and guilt associated with failure that isn't necessarily failure, because we can't control those things. So anyway, it's one of those things that we don't actually put our finger on very often, where we're like, hey, wait a minute. I don't have the final say in the events that have unfolded here, but we still blame ourselves for it. So I thought that was really profound, too. I really dug when she was talking about that we make it impossibly difficult to succeed in getting what we want, yet tragically easy to fail at getting what we want. So think about that. We make it impossibly difficult to succeed, yet tragically easy to fail at getting what you want. And she said, yeah, let's talk about happiness. So the rule you set for yourself is to be happy, and the way that you determine your happiness is that people will like you, if people like you, then you're going to be happy. Right? So this goes right back to what we were just talking about, you know, where we don't have control over it, in that the validation that we're looking for, the validation that we're trying to, to what we've defined as success, isn't available for us to lock down, right? That's like setting ourselves up for failure, exactly like she's saying here. We'll make it tragically easy to fail. If that's our measuring stick for being happy, then we're really screwed. But it's funny how often that we do that to ourselves. Chris said something that I wanted her to say, like, two or three more times in a row. Just say it over and over again. We should ditch the rule of, "I'm measuring my happiness based on how people like me." Ditch the rule, and just go after the outcome of, "I'm going to be happy." Right? And that's going to allow us to get all those other things out of the way. I mean, this could be success, right? Like sales, I have to keep selling. This could be again, clients. Our worthiness is determined based on the performance that we're doing or the people that we're helping. That's our measuring stick. What happens after you've taught Pilates for 50 years and you can't teach anymore? What does that mean for you at that point in your life? You know, it's so interesting. This comes down to identity, you know, and what we tie to how we define ourselves internally, and then something will change, you know, what if there's an accident and you can't be doing the things that you're doing anymore, or what if something comes through that changes?Clare Solly 18:24  Yeah. And sometimes we change. Sometimes we realize our dreams and our goals are not what we wanted to do. Lesley talks about this all the time, yeah. When I met her, she was going in a direction, and her life changed, and she realized she couldn't go in that direction anymore. And sometimes you can't base your happiness on that measuring stick, right? You have to be both flexible and focused at the same time, but the flexibility sometimes is more important and living life, seeing what rises up for you. Brad Crowell 18:55  Yeah, yeah, totally. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into those Be It Action Items. All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. Say with me here. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from Lesley's convo with Chris Janssen? I'm gonna jump right in here. She said hey, stick to your commitments. Don't wait for motivation or inspiration. Commit to it. Get in action and just do it. There'll be seasons or days or times when we don't feel like showing up, but that's when we're going to show up anyway and stick to those commitments. So she's talking about sobriety, right? And one thing that I found was so powerful is she said, hey, the perspective needs to be flipped. It's not oh my god, I have to be sober now. Instead, it's, Oh, I get to be sober, you know? And I thought, wow, what an amazing way to look at it, because it gives you permission to be sober. In fact, it's a joy to be sober in that perspective. And when the challenge comes along of, oh, I wish I was drinking or I want to have a drink right now. Now, instead of it being a negative, oh, I just, I have to be fucking sober right now. Instead, it's a positive, no, no, I get to be sober, and that really will help you stick to your commitment. That was super powerful. Clare Solly 20:25  Yeah, I agree. I like that she mentioned focus on your commitments over your craving. So focus on what you want in life. Focus on what you are trying to get and trying to get to. You know, not necessarily that end goal, but what does today look like, and to tweak the tactics and not the goal. So how do I get from point A to B if I can't use the bridge? How do I drive from my house to the grocery store if I can't get to the bridge? Or how? How can I get from the job that I'm in now to being a Pilates instructor without sacrificing my entire life, you know, again, or sobriety, like we have many, many, many options here. Also, I just want to flag. I love that she has been not sober once, but twice. And I love when people come forward with these stories, that we as humans can just sit there in humanness and not necessarily have to live the life that she did, but understanding through her failure, and then reading this book or hearing her talk, and just realize we we don't have to go backwards. Just keep going for I like that she used the word grit, too. Just keep pushing through and get to where you need to go. And whether that's you've experienced it yourself, you're listening to somebody else's experience something parallel to what you're living in. And love that. And I love that. She said something else too, that it's a small shift to get to where you need to be extraordinary. So just loved this. Loved it. Brad Crowell 21:48  I like how these two things kind of go together. It's almost like this yours is like the step before sticking to the commitment. If understanding the permission structure and the framing structure helps you stick to your commitments. Then when that challenge comes along and you're focused on your craving, I want this thing. I need this thing. Or my perfectionism, I have to have it perfectly correct. There is still a moment in there. We have to identify that you're in that moment. And that's when she says, Hey, you have to focus on your commitments. And it's easier to focus on your commitments if you also understand why you're doing it. You mentioned that she was sober two times. When she got sober, the first time, she said, well, there wasn't this rock bottom of like, oh my God, everything exploded. She said, I felt like I needed to do this, and I had kids coming, and that was a enough of a catalyst to make it happen. But then 14 years later, when her kids were in their teens, she was like, I can't really remember why I got sober, because it wasn't this like explosive event in her world that blew everything up. And then when she decided to drink again, that's actually when things went down pretty hard, and she said she did have a rock bottom, and fortunately, she, you know, has someone in her life who was able to support her through that, her spouse, but she said focusing on her why? Yeah, probably would have kept her from choosing to drink again in the 14 years later, because she had forgotten the sparkle of the why that moment. You know, I think that's also another amazing thing that will help you stick to your commitments, is focusing on your why. Brad Crowell 21:49  So, listen, y'all, we think you're amazing. Thanks so much for being here today. I'm Brad Crowell. Clare Solly 22:35  And I'm Clare Solly. Brad Crowell 22:57  Thanks so much for joining. If you want to hear more from Clare, follow her at claresolly.com, that's C-L-A-R-E-S-O-L-L-Y.com. We're so grateful you're here. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Let us know by sending a DM to the pod on Instagram, or leave us a comment on YouTube, or just text us, and we will catch you in the next episode. And don't forget to Be It Till You See It. Clare Solly 24:02  Bye.Lesley Logan 24:04  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 24:47  It's written, filmed and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 24:52  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 24:56  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 25:03  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 25:07  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week's guest is John Harrington (https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-harrington-142906a/), co-founder and Chief Product Officer of HighByte. John shares how his experiences working on Kepware at PTC led him to co-found HighByte, why Industry 4.0 requires a fundamentally different approach to interoperability, and the importance of contextualizing data in manufacturing. He also breaks down the real value that a Unified Namespace (UNS) approach can bring, whether frameworks like ISA-95 are still relevant, and the age-old OPC vs MQTT debate. Augmented Ops is a podcast for industrial leaders, citizen developers, shop floor operators, and anyone else that cares about what the future of frontline operations will look like across industries. This show is presented by Tulip (https://tulip.co/), the Frontline Operations Platform. You can find more from us at Tulip.co/podcast (https://tulip.co/podcast) or by following the show on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/augmentedpod/). Special Guest: John Harrington.

Lesley Logan introduces a new segment honoring inspirational role models and shares uplifting community wins. She also spotlights two community members who found fulfillment by uplifting their clients. Tune in for a reminder that progress need not be grand, that celebrating small victories fuels your journey, and that showing yourself compassion can empower growth all year long.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Introducing a new segment to honor inspiring role models.Recognizing personal accomplishments, no matter how small.Celebrating clients' progress as a reflection of your guidance.Overcoming disappointment by focusing on deeper, genuine impact.Gifting oneself with love, strength, and compassion.Episode References/Links:Margret Chola - https://beitpod.com/margaretcholaFemale Quotient - https://www.instagram.com/femalequotientCHANI Deck of Plenty - https://chani.com/products/the-deck-of-plenty If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Fuck yeah. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Hello, Be It babe. Welcome to a new year, our first FYF of the year. And it's only a few days into this year, and you might be like, oh my gosh, I have to have the FYF already. Do not pressure yourself to make something grandiose. Did you get up? Did you brush your teeth? Did you look at the sunshine like those are all things that you can celebrate, because it's hard out there. Every day, you're gonna have an emotional roller coaster of things, and so it's so important. That's why this episode exists. It's Fuck Yeah Friday. It exists to celebrate what you did do. That's what it's here for. That's what's here to remind you. And I'm adding a tiny segment to this, I promise. I'll still keep these episodes nice and quick. You can hear my wins. That's true. I also just want to highlight like people who've inspired the fuck out of me, like women, specifically, who've inspired me, who may or may not be on this podcast, who knows, maybe they'll find out that I've shouted them out. So we're gonna kick off our year with someone who I learned about from an Instagram account called Female Quotient. Her name is Margret Chola, an 85 year old grandmother from a rural village in Zambia has become an icon of reinvention and intergenerational collaboration. With the support of her granddaughter, Diana Kalezhi (Dee), a New York City based stylist Margret, has captured the world's attention. Their bond and collaboration is a reflection of the confidence, creativity, and courage it takes to embrace individuality. Dee shared the shoot was impromptu and very low stakes, as these images were simply meant to live on my Instagram page. Little did she know that those posts would leave an impact on the way we view beauty and self-expression at any age. It's a reminder that no matter where you start, your story can ripple far beyond your expectations. So I love this. If you're watching on YouTube, you'll have to click the Instagram link, but I'll just show you like, look at Margret, freaking gorgeous woman. So it's this 85 year old grandma from Zambia, and she is wearing every color with gloves and fabulous pineapple crystal glasses, and she's just got the smile on her face gorgeous bracelet, like you just want to have it. And then if you keep going, she's got this hat that I dream to have. Maybe someday it won't even fit in the car, but my gosh, it's stunning with her glasses and her shoes, like and her shoes, oh my gosh, I love this, because it's an introgen, like granddaughter and grandmother created this thing, and they had low expectations, and it turned out that it was like inspiring women everywhere. And honestly, like, the pictures keep going. And I just want to now meet Margret, and I'm so inspired by her. If you're hearing this today going, why the heck am I learning about Margret? Go click the link, because you may need to be inspired. Doesn't matter what your age is, doesn't matter what your body looks like. You can put together some fabulous things that that have a ripple effect, as they said, beyond where you live. You can inspire people. She has inspired me. I think I'm gonna go get dressed up for today, literally, holy moly, I'm gonna step it up a notch because of this. So that is our new segment, shouting out someone who inspired me, who caught my attention, and I love that she's with her granddaughter, Dee, and I love that they're affecting people around the world. You could be doing that too. And now let's talk about you. Let's share the wins that you have. So here we go. First up, we have Heather Ingram. She is an eLevate grad, an Agency member. She's done an OPC workshop for us. I absolutely love this woman, and she wrote fab webinar with Kareen Walsh today on becoming a magnet for money. Sign me up for that. Also just finished a fantastic session with my favorite private client, who does her homework three times a week, and the progress in her Pilates practice is effing inspiring. As I watched her move through her flow today, I actually had a proud moment when I caught my own reflection in the mirror, made eye contact with myself and silently said to myself, you did this for her. You helped her get here. You're pretty effing great. You are. I always in my sessions with a standing roll down arm circle and then reach around to pat themselves on their back for their energy effort. Great session. Give themselves some love. And today was the first time I gave love to myself for what I'm doing for my clients. Yes, tooting my horn. Heather, thank you for inspiring us all to toot our own horns. We should all do it more often. How freaking cool is that I love that you actually saw yourself and like actually had that moment with yourself, because it's so true. Yes, she's doing her homework, but you managed to inspire her to do that. You chose these exercises for her. You set these things up so that she could have the success that she's having. So way to go, girl. It's like another collaboration. This is another collaboration. Okay? Dana Karen, who's an Agency member, she wrote, wow, my heart is so incredibly full right now. I am on day two of seven-day challenge I'm running for getting active and chronic pain called meant to move after my book. I've been busting my ass for the past four weeks or so leading up to this challenge with IG lives and new freebies and tons of promos, it was so exhausted by the time it even started. I was disappointed at first to just get four items, because I'm making, like, $2 an hour, but I have to say that things are going so well. So far, I just got off two back to back coaching calls with people telling me how grateful they are for the safe space that the challenge created and how happy they feel to have guidance and support to get going. The second client said to me, the moving part is just a bonus. What I needed was a safe container to put my grief and feelings about movement and where it was okay to be starting from scratch, and you gave me that. I mean that sentiment right there is exactly why I wrote the book, why I created my first paid program in 2022, and why I made this challenge. I've been trying to figure out the correct formula for years without success, and I feel like I'm finally hitting on something that might actually work if I can figure out how to find my people. I just feel so fulfilled knowing that this is working for someone, and it made my whole month. Dana, way to go, babe, way to go. You know, I think we all look at people and maybe even look at this podcast, and you go, oh my God, she must have had, like all the listeners, as soon as she hit play, whatever, whatever you hit to upload the episode. I don't know what my team does. No, you have to work for it. And yes, there are sometimes moments where these flash in the pan like everything aligns, and it works out really, really well. But typically it doesn't work like that. Typically those stars, they die fast. What really is the truth is that every single person out there that you are seeing share their gifts and change people's lives have been doing it like a duck on the water, just like looking so smooth, but underneath they're just like, kicking their feet, kicking, kick, kick, kicking, you know, just like, so, so much. So I just so appreciate you sharing with us the hard work that you went through. DK, and then also that you're feeling so fulfilled. And so I'm in day two. The money will come. It just will. But you're changing people's lives, and you're learning about what they need to hear from you. So you can keep doing that. And congrats on your amazing book. All right, a quick win of mine. So we are not even done with this tour. I'm still on it. I'm still on it, and what I'm gonna say is, my win is that I'm having the best time. I really am. I'm so honored and so grateful and so blessed. And that's a win, you know, because it'd be so easy for me to sit here and focus on, like, the times that the schedule didn't work correctly, or we hit traffic, or, you know, something happened. I mean, one summer tour, the dogs jumped out of the van to run into a store that Brad was in, you know, so the chaos can happen. But I am going to say is, with about five days left on this tour and only a couple stops left to go, I would do it again. I would do it again. Really, really would. So thank you, if you came out on the tour, thank you for doing that. We will announce our West Coast summer tour soon, but not so soon, because I've gotta, I gotta relax. Gotta take some time. Okay, let me leave you with a mantra. The last couple years, I've gotten the mantras offline. Now because you guys have been so generous and gifted me so many mantras, I'm either getting them off of Instagram, or I have a couple decks that I am using. And so today, it's from the CHANI deck of plenty. No sponsorship here. I just like her. I send my past self love, I send my future self strength, I shower my current self with a million compassion affirmation. I send my past self love. Let's do that. I send my future self strength. Take a moment. I shower my current self with a million compassion affirmations. If you need a million of them, just Google top affirmations for 2025, right, and just keep reading them. Here one more time. I send my past self love, I send my future self strength. I shower my current self with a million compassion affirmations. You guys, we've had many, many guests on talk about affirmations and putting Post-its up and putting them where you can see them. May this be your sign that you do that. Maybe that's your win. And if it is, send it in to us, so we can shout you out on the next FYF. Have an amazing day. And until next time, be it till you see it. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 10:14  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 10:19  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 10:24  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 10:31  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 10:34  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell revisit their conversation with Mary and Kate Swick, hosts of Mom and Me Astrology and experts in blending traditional and modern astrological insights. Together, they uncover astrology's power to validate experiences and guide personal growth. Learn how Pluto's cycles and Mercury retrogrades can reframe obstacles, foster clarity, and inspire adaptability in life's transitions.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why Pluto's long-term cycles highlight opportunities for transformation.How Mercury's retrograde offers a chance to rethink, revise, and refocus.Why astrology validates emotions and offers context for life's challenges.Why understanding your astrological chart provides insight into your strengths.How being curious about astrological influences can foster adaptability.Episode References/Links:OPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourCambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://lesleylogan.co/retreatsFlashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorOPC Spring Training Waitlist - https://opc.me/eventsTry Out OPC $40 for 40 Days - https://opc.me/40Mom, Me, and Astrology - https://beitpod.com/astrolgypodcastMonica Linda Girl Squad - https://www.girlsquadllc.com If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! 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And so to go back, don't blame astrology, but understand what's going on, and then you can work with it. Lesley Logan 0:18  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:57  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the validating convo I had with Mary and Kate Swick in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you need to make time for that episode and maybe listen to it twice. I think Brad listened to it three times. Brad Crowell 0:57  Two and a half times. Lesley Logan 1:02  Two and a half times. So holy freaking moly, there's a lot of information. Grab your notebook, maybe even look at the transcript of it, because you can go to your sun sign, or Mary and Kate often talk about your rising sign, and you can just like, copy and paste what they're saying, because they gave a lot of information. But before we get into that, today is January 2nd 2025 and it's National Personal Trainer Day. And because I'm a Pilates instructor, I think we just need a Pilates instructor, yoga instructor. It's your national whoever is (inaudible)Brad Crowell 1:49  We're gonna, we're gonna adjust it from personal trainer to fitness trainer. Lesley Logan 1:53  Yeah, whoever is your personal person taking care of you, and OPC can be that person for you. So we're gonna celebrate me. To be honest, I think they really phoned it in when they came up with holidays for January 2nd. Brad Crowell 2:07  Yeah, right. Lesley Logan 2:08  Really went through, and this is the best one that didn't have, like, motivate yourself, go do the thing, like, that language is no longer allowed here. So National Personal Trainer Day is an annual day of observance on January 2nd when many people start working toward their new year fitness resolutions. Just so you know, we are not saying that you need to do that. Personal Trainers guide, motivate, and train you to exercise correctly. Yes they do. Brad Crowell 2:30  Yes they do. Lesley Logan 2:30  Yes they do. Without them, many injuries can happen due to bad former incorrect use of the equipment. So they are vital, often overlooked part of society. Personal Trainers should get the credit they deserve for the great work that they do. Yes. Brad Crowell 2:41  Yes, they should. Lesley Logan 2:42  I should. And also, at OPC, we don't do, like, one-on-one stuff anymore. We do provide feedback on your form just by submitting (inaudible)Brad Crowell 2:51  Did we ever? Lesley Logan 2:52  No, we never did. But I did. I used to. Brad Crowell 2:55  Yeah, okay, but you aren't OPC. Lesley Logan 2:58  That's true. I am not OPC. That's true.Brad Crowell 3:02  Hey. Lesley Logan 3:02  Hey. Brad Crowell 3:02  Congrats. Lesley Logan 3:03  Congratulations to me. Okay, so we're not even home yet, so just so you know, we're. Brad Crowell 3:09  We're a solid week away from being home. Lesley Logan 3:11  We're like definitely somewhere in the Panhandle right now but we're gonna come home at some point, and then we're gonna head to Cambodia.Brad Crowell 3:11  I think we're at Pensacola, probably on the way to New Orleans. Lesley Logan 3:21  We're definitely doing a class in Pensacola, and tomorrow is a class in New Orleans. Yes. New Orleans is sold out, so don't even try. At this point. Brad Crowell 3:29  Pensacola, I think, has a couple left in the class. Lesley Logan 3:32  At the time we're recording this, the class had some spots. Austin has some spots in the workshops. Dallas has some spots in the workshops, and Lubbock has some spots in the workshops, but that's it, so and that's also. Brad Crowell 3:43  How about Phoenix? Lesley Logan 3:44  Phoenix, at this point, has three spots left in the workshops, but you guys, we are 34 days away from those places, so they could be sold out by the time you're hearing that. It's very true, but just reach out, because you never know. You know. Brad Crowell 3:56  Never know. Go to opc.me/tour come check it out. Lesley Logan 3:59  So when we come back, we're going to Cambodia in February, and we have announced, it says we've just announced October. Brad Crowell 4:07  When we're listening to this. No, the announcement for October hasn't come up just yet, but it will be, should probably be on the website, y'all. But basically, we're going to be putting out an offer to the people on the waitlist. So go to lesleylogan.co/retreats plural, retreats plural, and add yourself to the waitlist so you can get the special offer. Well, it's our early bird special. So if you want to check out what's going to happen in October, the dates are the 12th through the 17th, 12th to the 18th, 13th through the 18th, something like that middle of October of this year, 2025. What? We're going to be making that big announcement, only the people on the waitlist. So if you're on social, we won't be talking about it. Lesley Logan 4:46  Only people on the waitlist will get that early bird discount and get the invite. And last October, it sold out from the waitlist. So, just so you know. Brad Crowell 4:55  We're the biggest group we ever took, and we literally had to bump people to February because it just went immediately. And that was really exciting and incredible. So if you are thinking about it at all, make sure you check out those dates and come join us. And as you all heard us talk about back in November, we drove to Los Angeles. Lesley did this incredible week of prepping for the guillotine photo shoot.Lesley Logan 5:16  1100 pictures. Brad Crowell 5:17  Yeah, we did 1100 photos for the new, upcoming flash cards accessories deck.Lesley Logan 5:22  I've been going through on the tour, I'm sure at some point by now, when this comes out, I will have sat down and picked the pictures for this deck, and I am supposed to have been done writing by now. So. Brad Crowell 5:33  Yeah, we'll see. Lesley Logan 5:34  We're gonna project all that, because we're trying to actually go on presale earlier than we usually do. Usually we go on presale in May or June, and we're trying to hit that April, March. Brad Crowell 5:43  And here's why we're trying to avoid hurricane season in Florida. Lesley Logan 5:46  Yeah, you know these are things you have to think about. Brad Crowell 5:48  When they ship. Lesley Logan 5:49  Yeah, when you're a business owner, you have to think about things you never thought about. Brad Crowell 5:52  Never thought about.Lesley Logan 5:53  Before. So you need to go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist to get on the waitlist, because only those people on the waitlist get the presale price. And the presale price is the best price that deck will ever have, ever, ever, ever.Brad Crowell 6:06  If you are feeling stuck in your Pilates business, or you're really worried about this year, my name is Brad. I talk a lot about, how do you grow a small business, especially a fitness business, especially a Pilates business. So if any of that makes any sense to you, if you're like, Okay, it's January. I need to capitalize on this wave of people wanting to get back into the studio, but I'm not quite sure how to connect with those people. You don't know how to get new clients, or you're worried about the money. Come join me for a free webinar when we get back home the following week, I'm going to be hosting a free webinar called the Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator, and in that webinar, I'm going to be revealing three massive secrets that Lesley and I have put together after coaching more than 2500 businesses over the last seven years. Because this year, this January, right now, it is Agency's seventh year. Holy cow. That is unbelievable. I can't believe that.Lesley Logan 6:57  It's insane.Brad Crowell 6:58  Yeah, we kicked it off in 2018 so that's amazing. Anyway, go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator, and join me for the free webinar. And then finally. Lesley Logan 7:09  Okay, so you guys are first. Brad Crowell 7:11  Drum roll please.Lesley Logan 7:17  We are going to do a spring training OPC, and it's going to be online. It's going to be something you can do live with us. There'll be some replay action. Brad Crowell 7:26  This is like, going to be a big event. This isn't going to be like, oh, join us for a one hour workshop. No, this is like. Lesley Logan 7:31  No, it's going to be a week long event. Something similar to what you used to do four years ago. But we're going to include all the OPC teachers multiple different pieces of equipment. So no matter what you have access to, there's going to be part of this event that is for you. Brad Crowell 7:42  Yeah, no summer camp this year. Okay, we're going to do the spring training instead of the summer camp.Lesley Logan 7:46  You don't know why. If you were listening to the pod, we kept confusing summer camp and summer tour, and we decided that we need to change the season. And I was born and raised in a baseball family. Brad was raised in a football family, but you may not know my grandfather was actually a professional baseball player, and so spring training. Brad Crowell 8:04  He played for the Philadelphia Eagles, right?Lesley Logan 8:07  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Brad Crowell 8:10  Just hit my head with guitar.Lesley Logan 8:14  And the he meaning Brad, no, my grandfather played for the St. Louis Cardinals he was the catcher. So we're gonna do spring training. It's gonna be end of April into May, and I want you to get on the waitlist, because something special will happen for the people on the waitlist. We'll make sure we always put things special on waitlists. You always just want to be on waitlist. Brad Crowell 8:30  Just be on the waitlist. Lesley Logan 8:31  And we don't bug you. We just remind you what's coming out once a month, so you don't forget about it. So go to opc.me/events, opc.me/events.Brad Crowell 8:39  Yeah, by the way, I just want to say the waitlist is different from our newsletter list. So if you get our weekly newsletters. That's great, different from the waitlist where we specifically talk about the events that you may have been wanting. Lesley Logan 8:50  Yeah, if you're like, interested in what our spring training is going to be, then you're going to want to be on the waitlist, because we won't talk about it on the newsletter until whatever special was on the waitlist is over. Brad Crowell 8:59  Yeah, and I'm not encouraging you to do this, but if you're like, oh my God, you send me a lot of emails, you don't need to be on the newsletter list, but you can still be on the waitlist. Possible. Lesley Logan 9:08  I mean, I write good emails. I'm just gonna say it. Brad Crowell 9:10  You do. Lesley Logan 9:10  They all come from me, and they're not chatGPT, we're not even using my bot to write them. So, you know. Brad Crowell 9:14  It's true. It's true. opc.me/events, plural, opc.me/events, get yourself on the waitlist, and we'll be letting you know about spring training. Lesley Logan 9:23  Also that waitlist. Also let you know about all OPC events that includes the course. So there's good stuff on that. Brad Crowell 9:29  Yep, yep. Love it. All right. Lesley Logan 9:31  Before we talk about Mary and Kate, we have a lot to get into, because we do have an audience question. Brad Crowell 9:35  Yes, we do. Okay. Lisa Hansen 6014 from YouTube says hey, in the shoulder bridge exercise, difference in pointing and flexing.Lesley Logan 9:45  Okay. Brad Crowell 9:45  I don't even know (inaudible) to myself. Lesley Logan 9:48  So, don't worry, means nothing to a lot of people. So in the shoulder exercise on the mat, you actually point the foot up when you kick the leg up. Brad Crowell 9:56  Oh, I know exactly. Lesley Logan 9:57  Yes, I know you do. Brad Crowell 9:58  But you go up pointed and down flex? Lesley Logan 10:00  Yeah, do you remember why?Brad Crowell 10:02  Oh snap. Uh, well, probably about this stretch that creates when you do it. Lesley Logan 10:06  Great job. Brad Crowell 10:07  Hey, nailed it. Lesley Logan 10:08  So, okay, so, so in Pilates. Brad Crowell 10:11  Sorry, Lisa. Lesley Logan 10:11  Yeah. So Lisa asked this, and also her further questions that came from this was like, well, my foot cramps when I point it. So, yeah, here's the deal, in Pilates, when you point it is actually to help you get length in the front of your leg, because the hip flexor is going to want to try to jump in there. And when you flex, is to help you have more access on the way down, to help people have more access to the hamstring and glute, allows you to push into something when you flex with the roll up and you push your heels down, it gets you more access to those hamstrings and glutes. Why? Because you need them to turn on so you don't overuse your hip flexors. Brad Crowell 10:42  Yeah, so that's actually why. Lesley Logan 10:44  Yeah, in sidekicks, when you turn the leg out and you point it up, you flex it down. Why do that? You point it up, so your hip flexor doesn't try to lift the leg, and you flex it down so you can get more gluten hamstring. So pointing and flexing in Pilates is not choreography. It is about the connection. Now, when you're new to exercises and Pilates, it will feel like you're learning choreography. That's fine. But then there is a point to it. Brad Crowell 11:07  There is a method to do with the madness. Lesley Logan 11:09  Yes, and then, just to follow up, if you are someone who's foot or feet cramp when you're pointing them, it tells me you are over using your foot, and the point and flex is happening from the ankle down and not from the butt down. And so what I would just say is. Brad Crowell 11:25  Say that one more time. Lesley Logan 11:26  When you point your foot if it's cramping, there's a lot of reasons why muscles cramp. You could be lacking magnesium, electrolyte. You could be dehydrated, the muscles could be tired. But specifically in Pilates, if a foot is cramping when it's pointed in shoulder ridge, for example, she's got one foot on the ground, not cramping, one foot and they are cramping. It tells me that she's over using the foot. Brad Crowell 11:50  Okay, that's what I just wanted you to say one more time. So yeah, she's doing what? Lesley Logan 11:54  Over-using the foot muscle. She's working from the ankle down. Brad Crowell 11:57  Yeah, that's what I was unclear of. Lesley Logan 11:58  You need to, so your foot is not its own thing. Your foot is part of your butt. So you want to think about that point and flex going from up and down the chain up and down the whole leg. It's not choreography. It's part of like your whole body. And so when you're new, it's going to be just the ankle, but as you advance and the more she uses her butt, the lesser foot will cramp. There's an exercise on the Cadillac called shoulder roll down. If your feet cramp in that exercise, 100% you're not using your butt. 100% of the time when you access your ass, your feet stop cramping. Brad Crowell 12:06  And you're fast. Lesley Logan 12:35  Yes. Brad Crowell 12:35  Oh yeah. Well, great answer. Lesley Logan 12:38  And also, Lisa became an OPC member because of all these questions. Brad Crowell 12:42  Hey, Lisa, welcome to the club. Lesley Logan 12:43  And now I asked her, I said, send me a video of you doing this exercise so I could actually see what's going on. So if you would like me to see how you point and flex your foot and see if you're using your butt or you're just overusing your foot, opc.me/40Brad Crowell 12:43  Yeah, go check it out. Opc.me/40, and come join the amazing family, the community that we got going on there. Okay, so this is gonna be super juicy. Make sure you stick around. We're about to talk about Mary and Kate Swick. Lesley Logan 13:09  And ourselves. Brad Crowell 13:10  And they actually read our charts, and we're gonna talk about that too. So we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 13:16  Welcome back all right. Now let's talk about Mary and Kate Swick. Kate and Mary Swick are the hosts of Mom, Me and Astrology, where they bring together traditional and modern astrological insights. Kate, an Aquarius, and lifelong student of astrology, combines her studies in modern astrology with a background in energy work and intuitive practices, offering fresh perspectives on innovation, growth and self discovery. Side note, she's also went to school for psychology, worked in corporate for a long time, running some spas and stuff. So she's got a lot of interaction with a lot of people, but she grew up with Mary, a Scorpio, brings over 35 years of experience in astrology, making her a trusted guide for navigating major life shifts. Together, they provide guidance on navigating life shifts and understanding planetary influences. Also not mentioned here is that Mary's husband, Kate's father, also worked as an astrologist as well. So Kate was like, around, around this whole world. Lesley Logan 14:12  Before the internet and email, like someone would call and Mary would be out, and there's no answering machines, right? So Kate's like, writing down, okay, yes, the North Node thing you said came true.Brad Crowell 14:23  Yeah, the second month, moon's sun did a back flip. And, yeah, I don't know anything about things clearly, Kate, obviously, grew up with all of this and. Lesley Logan 14:32  If any of the things sounded overwhelming, what I have decided since I've met them and we've known them now three years, maybe four years, is that just the more you listen to the terms, the less, the more familiar they become, the less it's like learning a new language. The less overwhelming it is, and the more you study it in yourself, the easier it is for you to understand other things. And I have to be honest, like, the more chaotic the world is, the more I'm like, hold on, what's going on in the moons, let me see, because. Brad Crowell 15:02  I haven't wrapped my head around houses yet, but I've got, like, sun, moon, I'm starting to understand that. But then there's, like, the planets and the degrees. I don't know anything about that.Lesley Logan 15:11  I'm excited because I picked up a journal for this year. And every day, there's a way for me to put an entry. It tells me what's going on with the moons, and it tells me what's going on with like, different things, and it's a way for me to practice you have to look at your own chart, and I had stickers to put what things are in which house and what degree. And so I feel like just every day I get to spend a little time journaling in this area. Again, what's gonna go to what I loved astrology is what Mary said. Astrology is very validating. It's not as much predictive as it is a green or yellow light saying go or slow down or pause. And you can use it as a valuable tool to help you see things you might not have noticed about yourself, or some things like, why do I do that? Like, why am I doing that? Sometimes I find myself going, why do I do that? And then I hear from my chart, like, this is the way you do that, you're like, oh, so that's just like, kind of who I am. So I just need to be aware that that's something that I tend to do, and something else that'll come up. We had them read my chart and your chart, and something that came up is that I'm someone who requires a lot of downtime. And I have noticed in the last year, I require a lot of downtime, like I just do after tours, after things like, I just, I need to lay down on the ground. And I used to think, oh, is there something wrong with my health or something wrong I need? And so going back to the validation of it, no. In the chart that I have, it literally says lay the fuck down, take time for yourself. So I really like that. And she's like, it's like having a friend who can give you an opinion or show you something that to you that you didn't see yourself. And I also think that's really cool. We had them read our chart. And there's a lot of things that are like moving around, that are going on. And every time I show someone my chart, who knows astrology, the things they go, Oh, wow, you need to stock up on your learning. You've got a lot going on over here. And I'm like, what is it? What do I need to learn? But it's not predictive, right? So we can't tell them what I need to learn. But I really enjoyed, in summary, what I, we are in a transition of something going on in our business right now. And what was validating about this is because we're at the end of the seven years, and so there are a lot of things transitioning, because that's how things are working in my chart is a seven year change, and what I need to be doing, what I need to be focusing on. And some things have already, the energy's already started in there. And I was like, oh, this is really validating. And then there was some things that she said. Was like, hey, you go look out for this. Not a beware, but a be aware. And I was just like, oh, that is really good information. The other thing that I'm glad that they said is you might want to not just rethink collaborations, but also check in with new partnerships. Check out new things. There might be someone who is famous or doing this x thing that you can actually like work with. And also there's just some really good stuff, you guys. It basically just says, I'm coming into like, the more authentic I can be, the better it is going to be for me, the more that I can manifest, the better that's going to be for me. And so what was so cool about that is, I've been thinking I need to be spending more time manifesting what I actually want, because that's just something I'm being called to do, and to hear in my chart that it's like, yeah, you're in a manifestation place. Go do that. It really helps put the green light on something I'm intrigued by. And I find that to be really cool, because it doesn't feel like this random hobby or this distraction. It feels like a direction. I have a lot of new beginnings coming up. Is that what? That's what they said. Did you hear that in my chart? Brad Crowell 18:29  I mean, you and me both. I'll get into that in just a minute. Okay, first off, one move Brad over here, this has always been interesting to me. Intriguing to me after having my chart read, I've met Kate multiple times, and her partner, Mike, but I have not met Mary. I've not met mom in person, I don't believe, but I have listened to them for a long time. Lesley Logan 18:50  I know you, you download their podcast. You listen to it.Brad Crowell 18:52  I do. I actually listen to their pod. And the reason is because, first off, I know you're very interested in it, and I just wanted to kind of start to wrap my head around the language of it, and kind of it, and kind of, yeah, I don't really understand it all, all the time, but it's fun. They're very sweet and they're it's easy to listen to. It's not that long, you know, it's pretty informative. It's also not doom and gloom. I don't know. I always imagine movies from the 90s where someone, like, bases their entire life off of, like, a one paragraph astrological reading in the local newspapers some bullshit, and then they go change their world for the better or the worse. That's kind of just the understanding I had of astrology, but listening to them talk about it, it's really kind of changed my understanding of it, so in a good way. So anyway, we did decide to do our charts with them, and that was also incredibly revealing to me, since I know me better than anybody, right? But before I get into my chart, Kate actually said, hey, the context here not to blame astrology, but just to understand. She explained that when you go through hard things, you can say, oh, here comes Pluto again, rearing its ugly head, right? And not in a sense of you have no agency, but it gives it sheds clarity onto things that might be happening in your life, or why you might be responding in a specific way, and you might be looking at yourself going, why did I do that? And that doesn't mean that you're off the hook. There's blame astrology. That's not what that is, but it does give you visibility into certain things. So it may be also a reminder that some of these things are temporary, because things are shifting and changing. Lesley Logan 20:19  Yeah, some planets move really fast. Some move really slow. And another example, because some people might not really be familiar with Pluto, although, my God, I've been so fucking aware of Pluto and Aquarius, but I'm very involved. So a lot of people like to blame Mercury in retrograde. It happens.Brad Crowell 20:35  Mercury's in retrograde. I've heart that a billion times.Lesley Logan 20:37  It happens multiple times a year, which is why you hear it a billion times. And the thing that I love from Mary and Kate is that they've actually really helped me re evaluate what mercury in retrograde is. First of all, I was born under a Mercury in retrograde, so they don't actually affect me as much. They kind of feel comfortable, but retrograde, R-E, they say anything you can redo, redefine, recreate, redecorate, put a re in front of it. And so to go back, don't blame astrology, but understand what's going on and then you can work with it, which is kind of cool, because, like, you said, no agency can go, okay, hold on, we are in a retrograde. So yesterday, I was trying to move these files. I tried two times it didn't freaking work. And I could have gotten mad or upset, because, like, I get frustrated when technology doesn't work for me, when it worked, like, literally an hour ago, and I was just like, you know what? Yeah, I'm just like, You know what, it's retrograde. I'm just gonna leave that there. I texted the team. I'm like, do you see these files? Because I tried two times and I don't see them there, but maybe I can't see them, and they're like, we don't have them. And I was like, we have to redo it tomorrow. I'm not gonna get angry about I'm just gonna redo it tomorrow. And I was like, ooh, retrograde. Brad Crowell 21:39  Yeah, Astrology can validate what you're feeling. We didn't talk about Pluto yet, but we're gonna get into that in just a minute. So Kate also said, astrology is not there to tell you that you're being punished. That's not the goal of it. It's, you know, it can help validate what you're feeling. It doesn't take away the emotion of what you're going through, but it can provide a sense of purpose. You know, what you're going through and dealing with is exactly what you are supposed to be dealing with. She said, It's all part a much larger plan and a much larger cycle, right? For example, we were talking about Pluto, we were talking about mercury, but we weren't comparing it to Pluto just yet. Mercury in retrograde happens three times a year. Pluto, it's like a 20-year cycle, right? And so what was really interesting is when they read my chart, and it was the two of them talking back and forth to each other for about 30 minutes.Lesley Logan 22:26  Okay, I'm so curious, what happened to it 22? I really wanted to go back and go because (inaudible).Brad Crowell 22:31  I'll tell you what happened, in fact. So here's what's crazy. They basically said hey, Brad, and this was Mary, mom. She said, to be honest, I wish you were here in front of me so that we could meet you face to face, because you have a very intriguing chart. She said, I don't think I've read this many, very many charts over my career, 35 years doing this, very many charts where there were three moons, there are three planets at a zero degree, zero degrees. Now that doesn't mean anything to me. I have no idea what that actually means, but they were very intrigued by this, because I was born under a new moon on a specific day in a specific place, and whatever the degrees of all the planets (inaudible). Lesley Logan 23:07  And you have three planets at zero, which means it's like a new beginning. But also you could kind of be either the old other sign, or this sign.Brad Crowell 23:14  I could be a chameleon. Lesley Logan 23:15  Yes, it's really quite crazy. They also said that when you go to a new place, you don't stand out as a tourist. You kind of just are that. And it was, I'm like, yeah.Brad Crowell 23:23  Are you going to let me talk about how excited I am about the chart, yeah. So, all right, so, so basically, they began to describe me, and Mary doesn't know me. Kate knows me. She actually was using some references of my life, of our life, that she's aware of, but Mary doesn't know those references. Doesn't know me. And yet she was looking at when I was born and where I was born, and she was describing why I did things I did in high school, which was fascinating to me, because she talked about, you were talking about being a chameleon. When I was in high school, I used to literally blend into all the different crowds. I hated the Goths versus the preps versus the jocks. I just thought it was the stupidest thing. So I would wear different clothes every single day, as if I was part of a different clique, a different crew, and I had friends in all these different clubs, or what a social hierarchies, or whatever the it was high school. And for me, I did it in a cynical way, because I thought it was bullshit. So I was like, Well, I'm gonna break the rules and I'm gonna be part of everything. But how funny to hear them talk about how I can do that kind of a thing. And I was doing that when I was, like, 16. It was really interesting to hear them talk about how I'm probably very intrigued about travel and about understanding the world and about different cultures and all that stuff. And that could not be more spot on. That is literally my driving purpose in literally life. I always say travel is my drug of choice. Brad Crowell 23:24  Yeah, yeah. And we and they also said next year is a lot of travel, and it freaking does. You were trying to squeeze a (inaudible) trip in a really crazy time, and I'm like, can we squeeze it into this quarter? Can we do that?Brad Crowell 24:59  I have more coming that she doesn't know about. Lesley Logan 25:00  I know, but I also really loved that they brought up. So something about Brad. He's Oh, yeah, let's just go. Let's go to this thing. And I'm like, Okay, I'll go. And then he's like, oh, you know, while we're over here, let's go to this thing. And I'm like, that was not on the plan. And we gotta drop off these three things if we're 12 o'clock at the FedEx and it's, what are you talking about? I thought we were just going to get lunch, and now you're adding three things. And they freaking brought that up in the chart. I swear to God. I mean, I know it's not psychic, but it's definitely validating. And again, yes, Kate has met you several times. We've hung out, we've gone to dinner, but not like, we're like, every quarter.Lesley Logan 25:01  No, maybe once a year over the past three or four years. Lesley Logan 25:39  Yeah, we have to send Mary a picture of you like I think she (inaudible).Brad Crowell 25:43  I feel it. I'm sure Kate pulled up a photo us. It was really just interesting. I lean towards an addictive personality, where, when I commit to something, I go 1000% in on that thing. I love to travel. I'm really good at showing a front and not sharing what's behind, right? So that's also the way I always thought about it is, that's how I was raised. No one ever sees what's actually going on behind the curtain. Maybe that's also just how I am. My interest in language education, my inclination towards technical stuff, you know, just fascinating to me. And then what we never actually circle back around to, and I want to finish with here before we move on, is Pluto. They said that somehow, I don't really understand it, but Pluto is affecting 10 of the planets in my chart, and that cycle, that 20-year cycle, is concluding right now, and next year is going to be a very interesting transitional time for me. Lesley Logan 26:40  I have to look at your chart. It sounds like maybe a 10-year plan must have been like, in Capricorn or something like that. Brad Crowell 26:44  I have a Capricorn rising. And I never even knew that. I was like, I don't know. Lesley Logan 26:48  Yeah, no, you have Capricorn rising. I have Gemini rising. We gotta look at what your moon is. But, yeah.Brad Crowell 26:52  This was really interesting that they were talking about some of the things that they were forecasting for me for next year during this transition period. I've already been doing them literally this past year. I can't remember the specifics now, but there was like, three or four things where I was like, oh, that's already started. I've already started to shift out of some of the roles that I've held in the company for a really long time. I've already started to make decisions on what I want to be doing in the company. And this kind of started six, eight months ago. So it's just funny that there's stuff going on in my world that they had no idea yet they were talking about it as if they did. Lesley Logan 27:26  They gave me some specific dates. I'm not gonna lie. I'm aiming for one of those to be the accessories launch card date, because, like, this is a great day to launch something. I think so too. Obviously, this is not a commercial for Mary and Kate, but what I hope is it's an awareness of take a look at these things, because it can feel like your world is uncertain and chaotic, and maybe it is chaotic. Brad Crowell 27:46  I mean, especially politically now. When the day this comes out, we're 18 days away from a transition in the president's office. Oh, and that's, you know, a lot of uncertainty starting at the end of this month.Lesley Logan 27:56  It's weighing on me. Well, also, like, I had a call today with someone I was like, so do we think that there's going to be a war where we're going at that time, because this is the weirdest thing, that because we travel so much for work, we have to pay attention politically, what's happening in the world like it, it affects us on an actual economical level, like it affects us on our work and affects the safety wise. And she said, well, then we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I said okay, we're gonna act as a be it until you see it. Here we go. You know. And so having an understanding of this, again, it's not a psychic thing. It can actually just validate. Oh, I do feel like everything is in transition right now, and I have all this stuff happening in my houses. So it is. So it makes you feel to me less crazy, and oh, I'm on the right path, or I can work with this. And so at the very least, you should listen to their podcast. And the episode, we had to talk about Pluto. We went through every single because we're talking to you like, as if you listen to it. We went through every single sun sign, which is a sign that you are born like the birth date, the one that like you. Brad Crowell 28:53  The one that you probably know. Lesley Logan 28:54  You probably know (inaudible) because it's on the magazines and everything. Oh, this your sun sign. Brad Crowell 28:58  Cancer, Capricorn, Aquarious.Lesley Logan 28:59  Yeah, based on your birth date. So you don't have to know the time or location you're born. You can just know your sun sign. We did that for both Pluto and Uranus. So I would just say, like, dabble in it. You can at least listen to the podcast, their podcast, and start to.Brad Crowell 29:15  Yeah, Mom and Me Astrology. Lesley Logan 29:16  Yeah, yeah. Because just to finish Brad's little point here, it's all part of a much bigger and larger cycle and plan. Brad Crowell 29:23  Yeah, stick around, because we're gonna get (inaudible) be it, if we certainly do, we're gonna get into those, Be It Action Items that they laid out for us on the pod. We will be right back. Brad Crowell 29:33  All right. Welcome back. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Mary and Kate Swick? I'm gonna jump in first here. I am cancer sun sign. So I was born under that cancer. Will be handed power, but may feel uncomfortable managing it or forming alliances. Cancer may hold taboo or secrets needed to navigate private matters carefully, interesting, because what we see happening next year is growth with the company and my entire shift, my entire goal, has been for us to grow OPC and begin to rub elbows with some other companies so that we can partner with them for marketing efforts and growth efforts and collaboration and all this stuff, but not on a local level, now on a national level, and eventually on an international level, would be our grandiose goal. So I just find it really interesting that may put me in an uncomfortable situation which I get that I could see how that I could be in a room with people who are running a conglomerate, and it might make me feel like imposter syndrome, or whatever it might be. Lesley Logan 30:41  And knowing that is helpful, because then you go, Okay, I'm gonna feel this way, but I'm supposed to be here. I've been handed this power, and so I'm gonna be uncomfortable. It doesn't mean I can't do use this to my advantage. Brad Crowell 30:51  Well actually, so the cancers may hold taboo or secrets really well when navigating private matters. So you know, if you're maybe a therapist, or you've got someone going through something, what I find really interesting is the environments that I came from were prone to secrecy, because there was a lot of controversy in the work environment that I used to work in, right? And I already feel like prepared for this kind of a thing. There's definitely intimacy being heightened coming up, and then cancers are encouraged to prioritize therapeutic services because of it. And there's a couple of action steps here. It's time to reflect on my needs in relationships, and not just intimate relationships, but just relationships in general, and then also explore what fulfills me emotionally and physically. Therapeutic services will help me process and escape into healing activities like mental health walks or yoga, which is interesting because I I totally was driven to that before, when my life was incredibly stressful 10 years ago. I'm excited to see some of that stuff coming back around, and I'm excited to embrace it so very interesting.Lesley Logan 31:56  And if you are not a Cancer or an Aquarius, because I'm going to go into mine and you're like, but I'm another sign, we talked about it in the other episode. Brad Crowell 32:04  We did talk about it.Lesley Logan 32:04  But also, I think what's really cool over the next year and years, you're gonna hear Brad and I talk about some things, and I think it's going to reveal itself how these things are evolving in our lives, because we're pretty open with you guys about what's going on with our lives and what's going on business, what we're going through. And so, for example, I'm an Aquarius, like Kate and Pluto is in Aquarius. So we are here, and Aquarius requires you rebirthing yourself. And this is something that they talked about when they read my chart. It did come up. You may, as Aquarians, and this is if your sun sign, and also your rising could be Aquarius. This could apply to you. Same goes for cancer. It can be your sun sign or your rising sign. So you may experience a tightly packed, intense schedule. I literally made my assistant already send Brad a screenshot of Q1. Yeah, it's in Slack, babe. It's about belief. Are we sure we want to insert this into this quarter? Can we at all look at the next quarter for this Belize trip, and it's because it's already looking very full, and we're not in it yet. And so it's coming through, and you'll hear in my FYF, like, I'm really proud of myself, because I did plan a birthday trip that doesn't need to happen, but I want it to happen. And yes, it adds the intense schedule, but I want Brad to experience a beautiful place that I love. So anyways, it's gonna be in a tightly packed, intense schedule, however, this can lead to big bucks or better bucks than what you've experienced in the past. And so now I'm like, Okay, well, some of that schedule can stay. So Aquarians are encouraged to prioritize their health. I mean, I do, but you should, and if you haven't listened to the ads on this podcast, there's a lot of ways to prioritize your health here, and is it, particularly in the reproductive and unlimited native areas. And I just want to say I've actually been focusing a lot, ladies, if you're over 40, that means, like talking about looking at your hormone health. It doesn't mean to have a baby. I'm just really focused on keeping my hormones as long as I fucking can, and then eliminative areas. It's look at your digestive system. That's what I'm saying. They also said for Aquarians, there's a need to differentiate yourself now, showing more creativity and innovation and how you dress or present yourself. Here's what's so funny. I'm already planning this photo shoot that we're going to do with Monica Linda from Girl Squad, because we're doing a photo shoot with the new decks, and like to get some pictures for future tours. I bought the most amazing fur coat, I mean, the most amazing fur coat, and then I got the skirt that I showed you. And I have wanted to, I want to update the podcast, art and things like that. And if you haven't noticed, I've been wearing more regular clothes lately, you guys. And here's the thing, it's because I'm in a big transition. Yeah, I am showing up, and they said, remind Aquarians this is a big transition. So it does not happen overnight. So I think it's going to take all of 2025 for the new mystic comp. But in my chart reading as an Aquarius, they said, like, you're gonna have a new look. And I have been over this last year changing. I got rid of the eyelashes, right? And I've been practicing makeup, and I've been practicing these different things, and I had started doing my nails. And I'm fucking obsessed with these nails. If you're on YouTube, aren't they beautiful? They're more beautiful than when I came home. So at any rate, like, if you're an Aquarian, we are the weirdo sign. We are the alien sign. We need to stop playing like, ooh, let me hide. I'm an alien. Let's be the weirdos and be the aliens, because this is our time. It's not going to happen in your lifetime again. The last time Pluto entered Aquarius, it was the French Revolution. If I recall, that should have been 1700s that should definitely been a forewarning. Brad Crowell 32:13  The last part, yeah. Lesley Logan 34:50  So let's enjoy the next 20 years (inaudible). Anyways, I hope that you enjoy this. I know there's a lot of information, but please again, use the transcripts, because that can help you sometimes reading it and hearing it and seeing it can help you with your sign and let us know what takeaways you had for your sign. I want to share those. Instead of sharing the wins, I'll share what you took away from it. It's totally fabulous, and I'm really excited to hear how this helped you. They did a lot of research to help both planets. We are so lucky that we got that. If you do want your chart read by them, listen to what they said on that last podcast episode. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 36:04  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 36:05  Thank you so much for listening. Hey, Happy Fucking New Year. Brad Crowell 36:08  Happy New Year.Lesley Logan 36:09  We didn't say that the beginning. Brad Crowell 36:11  We did not say that. Happy New Year. Lesley Logan 36:12  Happy New Year. Happy New Year. I don't believe in resolutions. I believe in upgrades, just like your phone. I say this all the time, your phone just updates itself, and then you have the same phone with better systems. And that's what every new year is, to me. It's taking you and just making the systems better based on what you didn't like and what you did like. So share this with a friend who needs it, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 36:38  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 36:40  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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In this Fuck Yeah Friday episode, Lesley and Brad celebrate wins from their listeners and share the power of consistency and community. From personal growth to innovative projects, discover how to turn everyday efforts into meaningful progress.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Katelyn Elser's business milestones and client reconnectionCharlotte Coker's health progress and morning routineLesley and Brad's coaching bot launch and website updateCambodia retreats rebranded under Crows Nest RetreatsCommunity support as the focus for this week's mantraEpisode References/Links:Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://crowsnestretreats.comTry Out OPC $40 for 40 Days - https://opc.me/40 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday.Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah.Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:47  Hello, Be It babe. We're catching you before the holidays, unless you're listening to this later, because you're stocked up and you're binging out. This is a week before, that's like five days before, it's December 20th. And what this is is a it's a Friday, TGIF, Friday, if you're listening in real time, when these things drop, what you're not like, Brad and I like, I know exactly what time my podcast drops.Brad Crowell 1:08  We do. Lesley Logan 1:09  I'm like, it's 9:05. There should be something right there. Brad Crowell 1:11  They're late. What is happening? Lesley Logan 1:11  Refresh that app. Brad Crowell 1:12  Come on.Lesley Logan 1:15  So, at any rate, we're going to share some of the wins that you've sent us, and then we're going to share one of ours.Brad Crowell 1:21  All great wins. Lesley Logan 1:21  So our first win is from Katelyn Elser, she's an agency member. She said my home studio remodel is done and I'm thrilled with the results. I had my first duet intro. I have a call with the local country club today about offering a mat class, and a client who ghosted me on her intro pack over the summer texted me and bought a package. I'm getting more comfortable with not converting every single person who walks in the door. Very great wins.Lesley Logan 1:23  I just want to say sometimes people ghost you because it's not a ghost it's like, oh, I'm gonna do it on this date, and we just don't always know when that date is. And so for anyone who's got their own business or you're trying to start a side hustle, you have to understand that we don't always get to decide or know when people are going to make the decision to work with us. They often make the decision, but don't tell us, and so we just have to be consistent enough in our communications and being ourselves and showing up that when they're ready, you pop up in their reminders, and then they continue on. That's how it works. That's literally how all businesses are successful. Like, we were having dinner last night, not last night when you're listening to this, but last night when we recorded this, and we were talking about, like, because someone said, like, what's different? And I think you and I were both like, we're just consistent. We've been so fucking consistent. That is why maybe we're just talking to ourselves.Brad Crowell 2:46  Yeah, maybe it's just us. Lesley Logan 2:48  Okay. We're just, we're just (inaudible) together with no one else that we've been so consistent over the years. That is why we get to sit here and have some of these huge wins that you're going to hear.Lesley Logan 3:00  So one more win from you. Charlotte Coker, I've been struggling with some health issues for the majority of the year, but I'm ready to refocus for the rest of 2024 and get a solid plan in place for 2025. I have my Q3 coaching call today with Lesley, and really looking forward to getting some help with clarity. I've really nailed down my morning routine to maximize my day, and my husband was traveling for work and made it home safely from Florida before the hurricane hit. Those are.Brad Crowell 3:28  That's important. Lesley Logan 3:29  I mean, my, thank God you don't have to travel, the hurricane stuff is, I feel for every person, and I know that we're recording this a couple months after two massive hurricanes hit. Many of our listeners, and many of you who know people.Brad Crowell 3:45  And members. Lesley Logan 3:46  Oh, one of our members lost everything. And I just want to say like, you have to celebrate that (inaudible) made it home safely because that, that's a massive win, especially when you're up against something you can't control. I also want to say, like, thank you for sharing that you've nailed your morning routine. Because.Brad Crowell 4:02  That's cool. Lesley Logan 4:02  That is, people think, oh, like, the the skincare routine, or the way you get dressed, the way you do your coffee, that has nothing to do with the the wins you're going to have for the rest of your day. But actually it sets you up for the best, most amazing day. So thank you, Charlotte, for sharing this.Lesley Logan 4:17  Okay, a win of ours. Brad Crowell 4:20  A win of ours. Lesley Logan 4:22  You could join me with this one. So I was just actually going to say we've had some amazing wins as a company in the last quarter that haven't always made it to the FYFs, mostly because they're wins that are not just ours. They're like wins, because our team has really done some amazing effort in. So a couple weeks ago, you shared about our tour announcing as a win. But also, like we released a bot.Brad Crowell 4:51  We did. Lesley Logan 4:52  We released a bot. What is the bot? The LL bot, it's a clone of me, and my voice that will answer questions for our Profitable Pilates clients. And we talked about, I don't know when you and Emma started talking about this, but you and I talked about this in April.Brad Crowell 5:10  We've been talking about it for years, Emma and me. Lesley Logan 5:12  Yeah, yeah. And finally, technology and. Brad Crowell 5:15  Emma and I.Lesley Logan 5:15  Yeah, yeah. Technology and need and desire and my willingness all kind of came together, and we were able to actually create a really good bot that you can be an Agency-on-demand member to explore, and that, it's been out for a couple of months now, but I (inaudible).Brad Crowell 5:36  It's a coaching bot for business. So like, what we did is we took six or seven years of webinars and courses and blog posts and newsletters and advice and all the things, and we combined it into a tool that allows us to basically have an automated bot that crawls all that information and comes back with responses. And you can have a conversation with it. You can literally call it. It's kind of insane. It sounds like you because we fed it videos of you, so it actually knows what you sound like. It's amazing. And with technology shifting, changing, growing, we're able to tap into that. And the coolest part about it is it's instant responses.Lesley Logan 5:36  Yeah, you're not waiting for me to, for example, after when I'm recording these, then I can go into Agency slack for the first time since Thursday.Brad Crowell 6:28  Right. Lesley Logan 6:29  And so people have been waiting since Thursday if they didn't use the bot, and then our Agency-on-demand members don't even have access to that, so they'd have to wait a month, but instead, they can actually just call it or type in, and it really does a great job. And I'm just really proud of our team for collecting the data so that when this opportunity came together, we could take advantage of it and also for us rolling it out so that it really is helping more people. Our goal for Profitable Pilates is to help as many teachers and studio owners as possible. And there's only, there was only one of me and now, there are two. Brad Crowell 7:01  That is a win. That's amazing. Lesley Logan 7:04  So the other thing I just want to reflect on, like as a team, that we've been able to really do is we've released a new OPC website that was a year in the making. Brad, how many people were involved in that?Brad Crowell 7:16  Oh, I don't know, 10, maybe 12. Yeah. Lesley Logan 7:20  And shout out to Amy Lavelli who's not on our team, but on our team, who really helped us go, no, guys, let's change that. Oh, do this. So, you know, y'all don't have to do everything on your own, is the point. And it all doesn't have to happen as soon as you have the idea. Some of our best, most brightest wins are years in the making and require a lot of people. So those are, do we have any other big project wins that happened this year that maybe I haven't shared? We already did the tour, OPC, we already did the flash cards.Brad Crowell 7:56  We actually split the Cambodia retreats off into its own brand. Lesley Logan 8:00  Yes, oh yeah. Brad Crowell 8:02  It used to be under the Lesley Logan brand, and now its own brand, called crowsnestretreats. You've heard us say that on the pod.Brad Crowell 8:13  Yeah, we've been wanting to do that for a while, but it just was complicated, and now we had the capacity to do that. And so.Lesley Logan 8:11  We've been wanting to do that for years. Lesley Logan 8:16  Because here's a, here's a little peek behind the curtain, we want to have multiple crowsnests, not just Cambodia.Brad Crowell 8:26  Yeah. Someday.Lesley Logan 8:27  And a lot of people are like, you should do this, and you should do this. I'm like, no, we will have multiple locations once our crowsnest Cambodia has people renting it for their own retreats, then we can have a Cambodia retreat, but then we could have a retreat somewhere else, but we gotta, you know, this is where, like, if you look at people who are doing all these things, oh they're doing all these things, first of all, they're not doing it alone. Second of all, if they're successful, they did one thing for a really long time, and that allowed them to have the foundation to break off to do all those things.Brad Crowell 9:00  Yep. Lesley Logan 9:01  Yep. Well, that's enough wins. We gotta let these people go.Brad Crowell 9:05  Yeah, let's get to our mantra. Lesley Logan 9:06  Thank you. Here we go. I'm scrolling down. I'm scrolling down. Okay. I hold community for others and I'm held in community by others.Brad Crowell 9:15  I hold community for others and I'm held in community by others.Lesley Logan 9:16  Yes, I hold community for others and am held in community by others. Boom. Brad Crowell 9:25  Oh yeah. Lesley Logan 9:26  I love it. Brad Crowell 9:27  That's how we do. Lesley Logan 9:28  You guys, go celebrate your wins. We want to hear them. Send them in to us, share them with a friend. You want to know what? This is the holiday season and people are always like, how you doing, how's this going? How you doing? And we go, I'm fine. I'm good. You can actually go, you know what I just won at today? Let me just tell you. And what if we actually changed the I'm good to like, here's how I slide today. If people go, oh my God, that person over there is a bit of a bragger, you can go, yeah, I am because I worked my ass off to get this win. I worked really hard. Or someone didn't show up for their plane flight, like last week, and still, you worked very hard. All right, loves, until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 10:02  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 10:04  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Lesley Logan 10:45  be it pod.Brad Crowell 10:47  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 10:52  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 10:56  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 11:03  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 11:07  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Join Lesley and Brad as they rewind through standout episodes packed with actionable advice. From carving out 30 minutes a day for self-growth to blending life's challenges with creative solutions, this recap offers transformative tips from inspiring guests to help you prioritize what truly matters and take bold steps toward your goals.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How the Remember When game helps you manifest goals.Embracing mom guilt and finding strength in seeking help.The 2% rule for using small daily changes to spark big growth.Creative strategies to balance family life with extraordinary goals.Episode References/Links:Ep. 1 ft. Joanna Vargas - https://beitpod.com/ep1Ep. 43 ft. Jennifer Van Barneveld-Pe - https://beitpod.com/ep43Jennifer Van Barneveld-Pe Website - https://coachjvb.com/Ep. 185 with Dai Manuel - https://beitpod.com/185Dai Manuel's Website - Website: https://www.daimanuel.com/Ep. 307 Jenn Drummond - https://beitpod.com/ep307Jenn Drummond Official Website – https://jenndrummond.com If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:01  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:42  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It Podcast. This is not an interview, this is not a recap, but it's like a rewind. Oh, it's like the MTV Rewind. Brad Crowell 0:51  It's a rewind. Lesley Logan 0:52  That's what it is. Oh, my God. Only took us two of these to figure out, this is our third one, we finally figured it out. So this. Brad Crowell 0:58  If you like a rewind, make sure we know, because I think it's kind of cool. Lesley Logan 1:02  I love a rewind. Brad Crowell 1:03  Yeah, it's a rewind. Lesley Logan 1:04  Oh my God. Okay, so we're rewinding, we're reliving some of our favorite episodes. Look, we couldn't possibly get all of our favorite episodes into any recap, like.Brad Crowell 1:14  I know. This is Episode 460. Are you kidding? Lesley Logan 1:15  Yeah. And so we're picking four past episodes per episode you're listening to on a topic. And today is our favorite tips, which is clearly the most general category. Brad Crowell 1:26  Yes, this is our generic favorite tips, but they're super fun great tips. Lesley Logan 1:31  If you like Jeopardy, this is the potpourri episode. Okay? So in this episode, we're gonna cover manifesting, like a type of way of manifesting without being a double woo. We're actually going to talk about, like, what to do when you make a mistake or when things don't go your way. And then we're going to talk about how you can change your life in 2% of your day. Holy freaking molly, that one's going to blow your mind. If you do not remember that, then you haven't heard that episode. Because if you had heard this episode, you would already know what we're talking about. Brad Crowell 1:56  Yeah, totally. Lesley Logan 1:57  And also, for my busy women, listen, it's all of you listening and the few good men you can send this to your busy woman in your life, like an inspiration on how one busy woman made the most out of her busy life to get to hit her goals that she has in her life. So here we go. Episode. What did you say? 460?Brad Crowell 2:15  460. Whoo! Stick around. Here we go.Lesley Logan 2:19  So our first clip in this rewind is from the first episode ever. Brad Crowell 2:24  The very first. Number one. Lesley Logan 2:26  When I interviewed Joanna Vargas, because I, like, had a batch interview a bunch of people, I was like, oh, this is the first episode. Like, I didn't know that when I picked her, but when we did the interview, I was like, this is being it till you see it. And so we're actually going to talk about this Remember When game, which is the most fun game, and I highly recommend playing it whenever you feel stuck. Brad Crowell 2:46  Yeah. Also, I'm pretty sure she used your name like 50 times in that episode, which I thought was a helpful trick for how to remember people's names, so we reflect on that as well.Lesley Logan 2:56  Yeah. Also, here's what I'll say. It definite. I just interviewed someone. The episode will come out soon. Her name is Kelsey Lensman, and listen to how many times she says my name and she doesn't just say Lesley. She said Les. Like, as if we're best friends. By the end of the episode, I was like, okay, Kels, when are we hanging out next? Like, I was like, This is my new best friend. And I don't normally follow all of our guests, because sometimes they poach us or whatever. But Joanna and this girl, Kels, I now follow, and I check on all the time. So here you go. Here's episode one. Joanna Vargas 3:27  Yeah, there's this game that I play. I have some girlfriends that know it, and it's called Remember When. And we'll just sit there, and we'll just drink coffee, or sometimes just some wine, and we just say, remember when, and we talk about things in the past as if they've already happened. So last summer, I was sitting at the park with a girlfriend. We're like, hey, remember when you're at my wedding? She's like, Oh my gosh. And we will give details. Remember when I made that toast and then I fell on my dress and we just start laughing. We will tell the most detailed stories. Oh my gosh. Remember when we went to Vegas and we had that phenomenal bachelorette party, and then we got free food, and we didn't have to pay for anything that whole night, and then she'll come in and go, yeah, remember when we took that helicopter? We will go on and on. Remember when that guy, he came and he just spoiled the heck out of me. Another thing we do is we'll send texts to each other, and we'll say, why are men so great to me? Why do men treat me like queens? Why do men buy me whatever, like, just on and on, and I'm like, oh, yeah, why? Why is it? And then the universe will show you why men are so good to you. Or you could say why are my clients just giving me so much money because of nothing? And then she'll text me, yeah, why are they? So we're already thinking and asking a question of true curiosity and as if it already happened. And so find somebody out there that you could play this game with, because not everybody will get it, right? And the ones that do get it text message, have a little session, a little zoom session, get together. I really, truly, it's so fun and make a game like little kids play Lesley, right? Brad Crowell 5:14  All right. So finally, let's talk about the Be It Actions from this interview, what bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with her? And I thought I jump in first and just say, one thing that I noticed wasn't anything you talked about. It wasn't like an actual talking point you had. If you go back and you listen to this interview, I am pretty sure she used your name, Lesley, 50 times. Lesley Logan 5:44  I know. Brad Crowell 5:45  She says it in almost every sentence. Lesley, you know what? Lesley, you know, this, Lesley, Lesley, right? And I picked up on it, like, maybe halfway through, two thirds way through. And I was just like, now I was listening for it, and then I heard it the rest of the time through. And I thought, wow, she is just so amazing at connecting to people in how she engages with them, she focuses on them, she speaks their name, she knows them. This is obviously a sales tactic for those of you who have ever done any kind of sales.Lesley Logan 6:14  (inaudible) only like her thoughts to me, like, she wasn't selling anything.Lesley Logan 6:19  Okay, so that was episode one. And the best way to find that is in your whatever podcast app you use, you have to go all the way back, or if you're on the OPC app, you can actually probably just search for itand that might make it really easy. I don't know. At any rate, it's Episode One. Now we're gonna go to Episode 43 so we're still early on in the podcast, and I really loved our guest, Jennifer van Barneveld-Pe. She's first of all, a beautiful human kind of in a way where you're like, oh, you might be a little jealous of how beautiful this human is, but I really love how vulnerable she is and how honest she is. And the whole episode, she actually talks about being a mom and it making time for herself. But first I want to talk about asking for help. And she has this really fun thing of how she handles when things don't go well, and it's about correcting and continuing. It really kind of helps you, like it's kind of the be it till you see it, isn't it? Brad Crowell 7:13  Yeah and asking for help, right? And then she also had some pretty powerful advice at the end about being more organized in your schedule, this helped me begin to live by my calendar.Lesley Logan 7:26  Stop it. Brad Crowell 7:27  What?Lesley Logan 7:27  What? Brad Crowell 7:28  Yeah, take it away. Enjoy. Jennifer van Barneveld-Pe 7:31  So I have a really great support system. My husband is in the business with me, and he fully understands and so like he knows that if I have to do something, he's got the kids. I've also had to learn that I'm always gonna have that mom guilt. I feel like mom guilt is just a normal thing to have. You just have to accept it. And, you know, do your best, show up the best you can, but also be okay with asking for help when you need it. And so we have a nanny that comes in and helps us, and she's like family now. And I had, when I first hired a nanny, when I had my first son, I had so much guilt about it, I was like I got but I have to be there for him. I have to be there. And now I've let that go, because I now look at it as a blessing that he can have somebody else in his life to make an impact, to make him more of a well-rounded person, or them both a more well-rounded person. So having the grandparents there, and having, you know, the caregiver there, and then also having our undivided attention at a certain time. You know, my cutoff is always five o'clock, and I'm with them 110% so, you know, I've just, when you become a mom, you just have to be more organized in your schedule. Recently, I've been getting up earlier and just getting my workout in a lot earlier. And I've, literally, I said recently, because it's been, like, four days, but it's a game changer, like six o'clock workout, do some work before the kids get up. And, I mean, it's been such a game changer. And I'm doing that for myself, you know, I had that me time before the day starts, which is so key. Lesley Logan 9:18  So that was Episode 43, if you want to go listen to the full thing. And I hope you do. I hope this helps you go back to the fun catalog that we have. I do know, shout out, I can't shout out the names, because I remember your faces, but not your names. To my peeps in Texas who've listened to the entire catalog three times through, you are brilliant. And then one of our girls in Alabama had only found us, like, eight months ago, and started with episode one, and a couple months ago finished it, so she is on track. So you guys be inspired. You can go back to the beginning anytime you want and do a rewind of your own. Lesley Logan 9:46  Up next, we have Episode 185 2% is only 30 minutes of your day. So we just gave away what that is. 30 minutes of your day is 2%. Brad Crowell 9:55  That's not insane. Lesley Logan 9:56  Insane. So when you tell me you don't have time, you don't have 2% of your day for you, we got problems. But, Dai Manuael, and every time I see his name, I want to go Dai Manuel Miranda, and I know that's not his name, but like, does it? I just anyways, he is epic. He's got a beautiful story about riding his bicycle, and then also, like, how he really helps people break up their day, because 2% of your day is 30 minutes, and he also gives out tips on how to break up that 30 minutes. You can make the most of it. So even, it doesn't have to all be exercise or all be reading. He has a really wonderful way for you to take 2% of your day for you to make your life better. So here is Become a Champion of Change with DaiManuel, Episode 185.Dai Manuel 10:39  Here's the thing, we've all got 30 minutes a day. All right? I know there's people thinking, I don't have 30 minutes a day. I'm like, you know what? Give me your smartphone, we're gonna go into the settings and you're gonna look at the thing called screen time, okay? I know you got 30 minutes now. You know, like, don't tell me don't. Now, here's the thing that's only 2% of every 24 hours. So what I want you to do is make a commitment to yourself that you're going to commit 28 days straight, that's four weeks, where you're going to make non negotiable every day 30 minutes for yourself. And in this 30 minutes, you're going to do something very specific. You're going to move your body with purpose for 15 minutes. Okay? You're just going to move it. I don't care how you move it. Just move it any way you want. As I always say, always, always, okay, like, move your body for 15 minutes, get your heart rate elevated, feel into your body, so if you did something good, then you're going to immediately follow that with five minutes of mindful meditation. All right? Now, that's 20 minutes. Now, for the last 10 minutes, you're going to feed that muscle between the ears, okay, that brain of yours with something positive, intentional, focused, personal development, not professional development. Personal Development. Okay? We all get lots of professional development, but I want you to work on yourself personally. So you can listen to a podcast like Lesley's, you know, you can listen to a TED Talk. By the way, I did a TEDx talk a year ago on vulnerability in men. Lesley Logan 12:00  That's so cool.Dai Manuel 12:01  So there's a little plug there, self plug, sorry, sorry, sorry. Lesley Logan 12:05  I love it. Dai Manuel 12:06  Also, you know, whatever it is, but feed your mind something positive for 10 minutes, and you'll find that after exercising that mindfulness meditation, you're ready to receive and you become a sponge. But that's just 2% of your 24 hours, okay? And in that, if you commit to that for four weeks, I've never had anybody come up to me and say I didn't experience a big shift. I know you will. Body, mind and spirit, you'll shift. Brad Crowell 12:28  Okay, so, wow. Episode 185 with Dai Manuel, 2% is only 30 minutes of your day that, I mean, it's kind of mind-blowing, and it makes me re-evaluate the stories I'm telling myself. So, next up we have Episode 307, 307 with Jenn Drummond. Jenn is like an incredibly inspirational human being, slash, epic mom, slash, what the hell.Lesley Logan 12:28  She climbed all seven K2s, and she was not a rock climber or hiker, professional climber, before the pandemic. So, yeah.Brad Crowell 13:04  So this one is Reaching New Heights And Transforming Life Post-Accident with Jenn Drummond, and what was super fun was her telling her story about how she uses her time while she can actually be present and still maximize her time so that she could prep for those epic climbs. Lesley Logan 13:21  She has seven kids. Brad Crowell 13:22  She has seven, seven kids.Lesley Logan 13:24  Yeah, so I had to ask. I had to go, how the hell did you, like, do you have seven nannies? Like, what do you got? You know? Brad Crowell 13:30  It's amazing. Lesley Logan 13:30  Her tip is epic. Brad Crowell 13:31  Yeah. So here you go, enjoy.Jenn Drummond 13:34  So when you have restrictions or limitations or whatever, that's not a no. That's a time to pull out the creativity bone and figure out what you're going to do. And so some of the meetings that I was on, I didn't have to be visually present, so I could walk on the treadmill and do the Zoom call, right? And I had this little thing called this Firefly. I don't know if you met Fred the Firefly but, Fred the Firefly is a very nice friend of mine, and he listens on all my Zoom meetings that we invite him to, and he takes all the notes for me. So then I can be walking. I'm like, oh, Fred caught that. I'll make sure I look at it a little more detailed later on. And so that was helpful. And then when my kids had soccer games, right? Soccer games are an hour and a half. They're forever, especially when your kid's not good, they're even longer. They're an hour and a half. And so I would bring a 12-inch step to the game. I'd bring a backpack full of water bottles, and I was that mom like standing on the sideline going, doing my step up. So I was watching the game, instead of the mom that was sitting there just watching. So I had to, you know, I had to make it work. Lesley Logan 14:34  That was Episode 307. I hope you go back and listen to the whole thing. I learned so much. I went on a journey. She is just fabulous. And she has a great book, which we read as well, and I just really enjoy it. Lesley Logan 14:46  And that wraps up our favorite tips, which is, by the way, clearly not including all of our favorite tips of all the Be It Till You See It interviews we've done, but hopefully it's a rewind that helps you go back to four in the catalog, and really take in like, what are your favorite tips of these guests? We want to know. So share it with the Be It Pod. You can tag the Be It Pod on Instagram. You can share it in a review with five stars, please. And you can also share this with a friend who is looking like maybe they're just feeling a little stuck or lost, like one of these tips might be exactly what they need. Sometimes we don't know what to say to people. We can send them an episode and it could be, oh, they'll pick out the thing that they needed to hear that day, which could be really cool. Brad Crowell 15:26  And also, too, these rewind episodes are really fun to send out because it is a little bit of a taste of a bunch of different episodes for them, and they'll really get to know Lesley, I don't think I'm in these too much, but. Lesley Logan 15:38  You're not at all on any of them. Brad Crowell 15:40  No, but I'm in the middle. I'm in the middle of all these. So, here I am. I'm here. Lesley Logan 15:45  He's here. And also, like, you know, the Be It Till You See It podcast grows because of you. It grows because you share the episodes. Let's be honest. Everyone's really busy, and most people are not randomly finding a podcast on their own. So we just want to (inaudible) thank you.Brad Crowell 15:58  I don't remember the last time I opened the pod app to be like, what is out there? Lesley Logan 16:01  No, I never. Brad Crowell 16:03  It's all referral-based. Lesley Logan 16:03  It's all referral-based. So thank you so much, and we hope that this episode helps you share the Be It Till You See It podcast with a friend. Because we, as long as we continue to grow, we can continue to get bigger and bigger guests. I have some dream guests. I have some huge dream guests. And the more downloads we get, the easier it is for me to get those dream guests, and I might as well say it now we're in the top 1.5% of our podcast because of you guys. (inaudible)Brad Crowell 16:28  That means we've actually grown in our listenership. Thanks to you. Lesley Logan 16:32  Thanks to you. Brad Crowell 16:33  So, you're amazing.Lesley Logan 16:34  Thank you for listening. Until next time, you know what to do, Be It Till You See It. Yes, Brad finally got it.Brad Crowell 16:41  I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 16:42  I'm Lesley Logan. Have an amazing day. Brad Crowell 16:44  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 16:46  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 17:28  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 17:33  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 17:37  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 17:44  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 17:48  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

OPC minister Chris Drew joins us to walk through chapter 18 of the Westminster Confession of Faith, Of the Assurance of Grace and Salvation. This is a tremendously helpful chapter. Here is the text: 1. Although hypocrites and other unregenerate men may vainly deceive themselves with false hopes and carnal presumptions of being in the favor of God, and estate of salvation (which hope of theirs shall perish): yet such as truly believe in the Lord Jesus, and love him in sincerity, endeavoring to walk in all good conscience before him, may, in this life, be certainly assured that they are in the state of grace, and may rejoice in the hope of the glory of God, which hope shall never make them ashamed. 2. This certainty is not a bare conjectural and probable persuasion grounded upon a fallible hope; but an infallible assurance of faith founded upon the divine truth of the promises of salvation, the inward evidence of those graces unto which these promises are made, the testimony of the Spirit of adoption witnessing with our spirits that we are the children of God, which Spirit is the earnest of our inheritance, whereby we are sealed to the day of redemption. 3. This infallible assurance doth not so belong to the essence of faith, but that a true believer may wait long, and conflict with many difficulties before he be partaker of it: yet, being enabled by the Spirit to know the things which are freely given him of God, he may, without extraordinary revelation, in the right use of ordinary means, attain thereunto. And therefore it is the duty of everyone to give all diligence to make his calling and election sure, that thereby his heart may be enlarged in peace and joy in the Holy Ghost, in love and thankfulness to God, and in strength and cheerfulness in the duties of obedience, the proper fruits of this assurance; so far is it from inclining men to looseness. 4. True believers may have the assurance of their salvation divers ways shaken, diminished, and intermitted; as, by negligence in preserving of it, by falling into some special sin which woundeth the conscience and grieveth the Spirit; by some sudden or vehement temptation, by God's withdrawing the light of his countenance, and suffering even such as fear him to walk in darkness and to have no light: yet are they never utterly destitute of that seed of God, and life of faith, that love of Christ and the brethren, that sincerity of heart, and conscience of duty, out of which, by the operation of the Spirit, this assurance may, in due time, be revived; and by the which, in the meantime, they are supported from utter despair.