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We chat about concepts of property and personhood with animals, the welfarist vs. abolitionist debate, the compatibility of veganism in a globalised and industrialised world, whether Mollusca and insects have sentience, moral schizophrenia, why she started NZ Vegan Podcast, & her favourite vegan recipe for non-vegans.
We chat about concepts of property and personhood with animals, the welfarist vs. abolitionist debate, the compatibility of veganism in a globalised and industrialised world, whether Mollusca and insects have sentience, moral schizophrenia, why she started NZ Vegan Podcast, & her favourite vegan recipe for non-vegans.
LISTEN HEREThis is the article about China's factory conditions I mentioned:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/china/news/article.cfm?l_id=28&objectid=10722773Here is a link to the YouTube channel for Paola Aldana that I mentioned:http://www.youtube.com/user/porolita22 (English)http://www.youtube.com/user/porolita (Español)Here is a quote from Gary Francione on the word "compassion" (in relation to what I talk about at the very end of the podcast):"Is our obligation not to be racist or sexist a matter of "compassion"? No. it's a matter of justice. Same with nonhuman animals"
LISTEN HEREhere is a photo of Duffy in his hopefully new and permanent home:This is the link to Professor Gary Francione's latest commentary where he gives great advice about talking to non vegans about veganism: Five PrinciplesThis is a link to Barbara DeGrande's latest podcast about personal relationships as a vegan: Dating While VeganHere is a link to Mylène Ouellet's latest article: What's Sometimes HardestHere is a link to Adam Kochanowicz's Vegan Help Bot I mentioned: http://twitter.com/veganhelpand to his website: Vegan FM var fctb_tool=null; function FCTB_Init_62fd70b5f3ab461fab350d4a3b48f64c(t) { fctb_tool=t; start(fctb_tool); } var fctb_tool=null; function FCTB_Init_13b85618ab46459c8fe679c331e8ed4a(t) { fctb_tool=t; start(fctb_tool); } var fctb_tool=null; function FCTB_Init_46781a276703465984d22fa6869da24a(t) { fctb_tool=t; start(fctb_tool); }
LISTEN HERE"People say that being a vegan creates a social problem in that others may react negatively. But isn't that the case if you take a principled position on any issue, whether it's racism, sexism, heterosexism, violence as a general matter—or speciesism? The key is to educate others about *why* you take the position." ~ Gary L. FrancioneHere is a link to the fantastic Nutritional Pamphlets from the Boston Vegan Association or you can contact them for some copies hereAlso don't forget their wonderful Vegan Pamphlet Here is another must have for any street stall: Becoming Vegan Pamphlet
Listen HEREThis is a big subject, and I realize there are so many more things I could say than I said, and so many more reasons I could add to the ones I gave, but I hope I at least got it across why I feel the way I do about this issue and why I personally agree that we should not have companion animals or pets anymore than we should have food animals, clothing animals or animals for entertainment or scientific research. Firstly this is the link to the video from Hurricane Katrina of which I extracted the audio clip that appears in the podcast. https://ia600504.us.archive.org/18/items/OprahOprahsaveddog/OprahWinfreysaveddog_512kb.mp4 Please access the following links if you are interested in the words that made me think about this issue of companion animals and agree that the possession of companion animals is not morally justifiable and therefore not right. I hope you read it because it is very well written! I hope it makes as much sense to you as it does to me. This whole article is great, the chapter on pets in regard to this specific topic is question number 3. http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/faqs/ Also here is a great clip from an interview: scroll down to the interview called: ARGUES AGAINST “THE RIGHT TO HAVE PETS” http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/audio/ click on mp3 to hear the clip. A great article: http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/pets-the-inherent-problems-of-domesticationAnother great article: http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/animal-rights-and-domesticated-nonhumans/#.UZf-ApX9tzMThe following is a link to a link to a debate in which the arguments presented by Professor Francione make utter and complete logical sense to me, and if they don't make sense to someone else who reads them, then there is no way that this podcast episode will :-) http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/a-debate-on-pet-ownership/ I would say that the arguments presented in the above debate are the best ones to read if you want to know how you really feel about the issue. I cannot see anyone who successfully refutes Professor Francione's statements, I just see the utter sense, logic and reason in the philosophy. However I am very aware that not everyone agrees, although I have never seen, read or heard anything by someone who doesn't agree that has convinced me otherwise. P.S. here is a link to the vegan (/vegetarian *sigh*) childrens book! I think it is the first of its kind! Rock on! That's Why We Don't Eat Animals P.P.S Adam Kochanowicz's show is called Vegan FM not Vegan TV - sorry! Here is the link (it is also in the link list) http://vegan.fm/
In this episode I try to answer the common objection that humans were made to eat meat, as well as some common variations of this argument such as "Humans evolved to eat meat", "Early humans ate meat, so why should we stop now?", "We need to eat meat to stay healthy", "God put animals on Earth for us to eat" and "Other animals kill each other for food so why shouldn't we?". Later, I also talk about, "Is eating other animal products such as dairy, eggs and honey natural?"Click here to download the podcastWhen I started recording, I found out my webcam had a handy "suppress background noise" feature that just hadn't been turned on properly, even though it was checked. So hopefully now there isn't too much background noise!Here are the links to the podcasts/blogs I mention in this episode:NZ Vegan PodcastFood for ThoughtCoexisting with Nonhuman AnimalsMy Face is on FireAbolitionist ApproachVeganaciousThanks for being awesome, guys! ;)
In this episode I try to answer the common objection that humans were made to eat meat, as well as some common variations of this argument such as "Humans evolved to eat meat", "Early humans ate meat, so why should we stop now?", "We need to eat meat to stay healthy", "God put animals on Earth for us to eat" and "Other animals kill each other for food so why shouldn't we?". Later, I also talk about, "Is eating other animal products such as dairy, eggs and honey natural?"Click here to download the podcastWhen I started recording, I found out my webcam had a handy "suppress background noise" feature that just hadn't been turned on properly, even though it was checked. So hopefully now there isn't too much background noise!Here are the links to the podcasts/blogs I mention in this episode:NZ Vegan PodcastFood for ThoughtCoexisting with Nonhuman AnimalsMy Face is on FireAbolitionist ApproachVeganaciousThanks for being awesome, guys! ;)
LISTEN HEREAlice Springs Vegan Society Facebook PageEmail Renata at: renata@alicevegan.org
Listen HEREAlice Springs Vegan Society Facebook PageEmail Renata at: renata@alicevegan.org
Listen HEREAlice Springs Vegan Society Facebook PageEmail Renata at: renata@alicevegan.org
Listen HEREThis week I talk about how I personally deal with the accusation that advocates of the abolitionist approach "don't care about animals who are suffering NOW!" For starters, I strongly recommend listening to this debate (there is a link to the audio in the post itself. Please listen):http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/my-dinner-at-eriks-happy-meat-diner/ and I strongly STRONGLY recommend reading Rain Without Thunder. Please please read this book.I also talk about how the focus of all our interactions with each other and anyone with whom we are engaging with this issue should remain on the real issue leaving ego and personality out of it. Whether or not you like me is unimportant, it is what I am saying that matters. If you don't like what I am saying, let's talk about that not about whether or not you like my personality. That conversation is an unforgivable waste of both our time. As a wonderful advocate @VeraVeganA said yesterday:"When ppl call me names & I feel sad, I rapidly focus on nonhumans again & keep on track"Now that is what I'm talking about Vera! I also talk about Professor Gary Steiner who did this great interview on Animal World:Animal World Doctor Gary Steiner: A Vegan Diet is a Moral ObligationYou can download both parts 1 and 2 (scroll down to the bottom of the screen) Finally I talk about my revamped AUT University Club, here is the website, please let me know what you think (it is still not finished yet). A million thanks to William Paul for all the help.http://autanimalrights.weebly.com/
Listen HEREThings I mentioned: My podcast episode about being unequivocal: http://nzveganpodcast.blogspot.co.nz/2010/06/nz-vegan-podcast-episode-57-key-word-is.htmlArticle I mentioned from the Abolitionist Approach website: Veganism: Just Another Way of Reducing Suffering or a Fundamental Principle of Justice & Nonviolence?The supremely important book I mentioned: Introduction to Animal Rights - Your Child or the Dog?Here is an example of an article from The My Face is on Fire blog that is quick to analyse misrepresentations of veganism in mainstream media: http://my-face-is-on-fire.blogspot.co.nz/2013/04/vegan-challenges.htmlMy website: www.nzvegan.com and the page I mentioned about sanctuaries and rescue orgs I link to: SanctuaryHere is the group in Brasil that I mentioned: GEFRAN (run by http://www.veganospelaabolicao.org)An example of the posters from the Abolitionist Approach facebook page with the motto: Go Vegan, Educate Others, Adopt/Foster: POSTERFinally the New Series: TIWISBD (Things I Wish I had Said But Didn't) that I spoke about on my NZ Vegan facebook page lol. I am sure I will be adding to this repertoire: https://www.facebook.com/NZVegan/posts/371795796255683Here is the link to the Huffington Post article that I mentioned in the beginning(NOTE - I forgot to mention that it only addresses diet *sigh* oh and don't look at the "celebrity 'vegan'" slideshow - MFIoF could write a few articles about that alone): Interest in Vegan Diets on the RiseThanks for listening. :)
Listen HEREWelcome back to the continuing series of NZ Vegan Podcast!My final episode was not my final episode after all :)This episode I address the one of the common issues arising from the dialogue about vegan advocacy, specifically those who say it is preferable to concentrate on the dietary and health aspect of veganism when advocating to people, rather than the moral issue. Needless to say, I disagree.
Listen HERE This week I talk about too much stuff to write about here, but the following are all the relevant links:The NEW NZ ABOLITIONIST VEGAN PODCAST from Vegan For LifeNow available in iTunesMylène Ouellet's podcast is also on iTunesVeganacious' Barbara DeGrande new podcast episode is here oo and here is an interview she did with Mylène! Darn, I knew I had missed something out! >:(Sam Tucker's latest episode can be accessed through this pageLiveVegan's podcast can be accessed through their You Tube channel here *Gasp* I hope I didn't miss something out.OOPS I did it again. Oh dear. I said Four thousand eight hunded animals were killed by PETA in 2009 but according to the article it was 2, 352. However, that doesn't change my point, still I apologise for again getting my figures wrong:8 Animals on Opposing Views by Gary FrancioneThat link is to an opposing views page that linked to an Abolitionist Approach blog entry related to the story. Have a look at the comments and you will see what I mean. For example, the comment by Heidi Parker, Mail Coordinator, PETA Foundation and the comment immediately following her comment, for that matter. Here is a link to the Vegan Examiner Adam Kochanowicz's article on the Mercy For Animals video: My Thoughts on MFA's videoHere is a link to the article about the UN: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jun/02/un-report-meat-free-diet Finally, here is a link to Vegan Poet M. Butterflies Katz's blog where she has the articles: The Vegan TruthI hope I remembered everything!
LISTEN HEREIn this episode I hope to address many misconceptions.Thanks for listening to my final episode of NZ Vegan Podcast!New podcast coming soon....... stay tuned :)
Listen HEREHere is the quote I was trying to say on the show"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." ~ Margaret MeadThis is the Gandhi quote I have on my 'cubicle' wall at work:"Non-violence and truth are inseparable and presuppose one another." ~ GandhiHere are the posters I have on my cubicle wall at workHere is a link to the interview of Gary Francione by Erik Marcus: MP3 or listen on the Abolitionist Approach Audio page.Please read Gary Francione's booksHere is our Facebook Group that I talked about: Oz Vegan & NZ VeganHere is the link to Emmy James' new podcast that I mentioned: Activism and the Message We Want to Send
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LISTEN HEREHere is the link to the Shirtless Dancing Guy video I mentioned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW8amMCVAJQThis is the link to the Coexisting With Nonhuman Animals episode about the Oprah Show that I mentioned: Episode 46 - Oprah Goes... Vegan, "Veg*n","veganish"...Here is the link to the latest Abolitionist Approach Commentary Number 24, an interview by Gary L. Francione with Rob Johnson creator of the blog Animal Rights UK and founding member of Grampion Animal Rights (which in typical me fashion I accidentally called Aberdeen Animal Rights, all my friends ought to be used to my getting things all mixed up by now, but I again apologise for mis-naming another organisation/website etc) and Vegan UK:Commentary 24: Vegan Advocacy in the UKThanks for listening!
Listen HEREThis week I talk about lots of things, including the wonderful cupcakes offered by the Vegan Education Cupcake Stall from The Alice Springs Vegan Society and their inspiration for offering free cupcakes to people, and I mention the Six Principles of the Abolitionist Approach to Animal Rights among other things. I also talk about focusing on IDEAS not PEOPLE. "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people"~ Anonymous or Eleanor Roosevelt. Podcast by Angel Flinn "The Vegan Evolution" - great vegan speech! -listen or you can read it here: VEGANISM: A TRUTH WHOSE TIME HAS COME: Best vegan speechThanks for listening :)NOTE: I wasn't going to do this because I really didn't want to spend the time, but someone left a really long comment and I am not going to publish it, and I know they would have spent time writing it, so out of an attempt to be fair I am offering this heads up in order to prevent anyone else wasting their time on a comment that I won't publish, and I hope this can be seen as an action I am taking out of respect for other people's time:Anyone who wishes to make guesses about any individuals I may refer to in any podcast episode whom I choose not to name (for reasons I think I have done my best to make very clear), well if that how you want to spend your time then that is your prerogative; but please do not attempt to do so here. I am really not interested in talking about people per se, except to talk about actions and ideas, and how they relate to the issue of exploitation, and I do my best, as a human being can, to stick to that. I don't claim to be 100% successful and but I try.When I am speaking positively, I feel comfortable naming individuals, also of course I want to promote work and ideas that support nonviolence, and the abolition of exploitation. When I am speaking critically or negatively, I prefer not to name individuals because I loathe drama, but even if I didn't it inevitably takes the focus off the real issue which should always remain the victims of exploitation, and I refuse to allow that to happen. And as this is my blog I thankfully have that ability. I also thankfully have the ability to refuse to join in on any drama to do with egos and personality clashes that are going on anywhere else. Thank goodness. :)As hard as it is to believe, I really do just want to focus on the issues of exploitation and violence and animal use, and stand up unequivocally against them in everything I say and do, and I refuse to promote or support anything that I believe is in opposition to that. Or to waste time on anything that detracts from that.In fact, that was the whole point of this podcast episode. Thanks for your understanding
LISTEN HERE This is Part 2 of the interview. with Professor Gary L. Francione.Enjoy!
Listen HEREThis week I speak of an email I received, special thanks to Doug Hines, and I speak of a wonderful concept that was given to me by Randy Sandberg.Please visit the wonderful Quotes on Slavery website: http://quotesonslavery.org/Here is a quote I think relevant to the theme of this podcast:"A common criticism is that the time is not yet ripe for our reform. Can time ever be ripe for any reform unless it is ripened by human determination? Did Wilberforce wait for the ripening of time before he commenced his fight against slavery? Did Edwin Chadwick, Lord Shaftesbury, and Charles Kingsley wait for such a non-existent moment before trying to convince the great dead weight of public opinion that clean water and bathrooms would be an improvement? If they had declared their intention to poison everybody the opposition they met could hardly have been greater. There is an obvious danger in leaving the fulfilment of our ideals to posterity, for posterity may not have our ideal. Evolution can be retrogressive as well as progressive, indeed there seems always to be a strong gravitation the wrong way unless existing standards are guarded and new visions honoured. For this reason we have formed our [Vegan] Group, the first of its kind, we believe, in this or any other country.~ Donald Watson (November, 1944)" http://quotesonslavery.org/a-common-criticism-is-that-the-time-is-not-yet-ripe-for-our-reform/
Listen HERE Analysing the sociology behind the posting of pictures of flesh and animal products on Animal Rights internet forums. Special guests Roger Yates from On Human Nonhuman Relations, and wonderful abolitionist advocate Timothy E. Putnam!EnjoyI forgot to add that in honour of Dr. Yates this is a BELLS podcast.(Bells courtesy of Zsebi the kitten)
Listen HERE This episode it was a pleasure and a joy to feature Diane Ellis who was referred to me by James Peden from Harbingers of a New Age, creators of Vegecat and Vegedog. Diane is their spokesperson, and is among other things an expert on feline nutrition, who has successfully raised three cats (and two dogs - of course!) on diets free from animal products, which is a success story I wish we could hear more of.She has very positive experiences and lots of great knowledge to share, for those who are interested in the issue, those who have tried to implement a dietary change for their felines (such as myself) and were not successful, or for those who are considering doing so now or in the future, in order for them to make an informed decision and hear positive and helpful information.We talk about Diane's wonderful cats Tomato, Razzie and Coconut, and I hope to have photos and videos soon. We talk about how the Vegecat food was created, and how important it is to follow the recipes provided by Harbingers of a New Age, as they were specially formulated with the help of a veterinarian Andrew Knight. We mention the horrors of commercial pet food and talk about the fear that many vegans have that they will harm their feline refugees if they attempt to feed them anything but a meat based diet, and discuss why some cats have not thrived on other vegan diet foods.You can contact Diane for advice and help through: leadwithyourheart@msn.com The following websites were mentioned in the podcast and are the links to the information about commercial diets, and also to the website containing information about Vegecat vegan cat food from Harbingers of a New Age.(Note and disclaimer: I am providing any links listed below due to the pertinent information to the issues and products discussed in this podcast episode. I do not necessarily endorse or agree with absolutely everything stated on these sites. Additionally I do not necessarily endorse links that are provided on these sites.) http://www.vegepet.com/forcats.htmlhttp://www.vegepets.info/pages/meat_based_commercial_diets.htm Thanks Diane for coming on the show!UPDATE:Diane has asked me to post this update, because she wants people to be aware that although she loves the fact that people are interested and need advice, she does have to make a living, and cannot answer every single email! You can also go to her website to reference advice on this matter also: http://www.leadwithyourheart.net/Homemade_Vege_Meals.php where there is listed a limited time discounted price list for consultations in case you are able: $75.00 per a 1 hour session for all pets and humans in the same household. $45.00 per a 30 minute session per one household.These reduced prices will expire on December 31st, 2010.If you get some Vegecat remember that the creator of the product James Peden is very knowledgeable and helpful also, and their website has tons of FAQs.
LISTEN TO THE PODCAST HERE This week I talk about my new job, the new member of my family, domestication and why I am more and more opposed to it every day, and I talk about the irrelevancy of the abortion issue to animal rights.Here is a link to the "Elizabeth Collins cont'd" part of my "profile" from my new job (scroll down):http://www.vetcare.net.nz/about_us.htmlThis is the link to the debate on Michael Medved's radio show between Gary L. Francione and Wesley J.Smith:http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/mp3/michael-medved-20100416.mp3This is a link to the article requesting people to call in next time:http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/live-call-in-on-michael-medveds-radio-program/These are the links to the discussion about promoting veganism: FIrstly the original article by Stephanie Ernst that started the discussion off:http://challengeoppression.com/2010/04/15/a-vegan-but-not-an-activist-sure-an-animal-lover-but-not-a-vegan-nope/Then Mylène's article: http://my-face-is-on-fire.blogspot.com/2010/04/on-doing-more-than-bare-minimum.htmlGary Francione's twitlonger: http://www.facebook.com/notes/livevegan/are-we-morally-obligated-as-individuals-to-promote-veganism-beyond-our-being-veg/383405213859 - (You have to belong to LiveVegan on facebook to read this) or you can read it here: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/u06prDitto this one, Dave Langlois twitlonger: http://www.facebook.com/notes/livevegan/duties-narrow-and-wide-twitlonger-by-david-langlois/383376633859 - or you can read it here: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/u047jHere is a link to LiveVegan's new PODCAST on YouTube where this is also discussed:http://www.youtube.com/livevegan#p/a/u/2/H5UjOpU8hj8And Vincent Guihan discusses it here also: http://weotheranimals.blogspot.com/2010/04/is-activism-obligation-some-thoughts.htmlFinally, meet Zsebi (she put herself there, she is looking for comfort always, because normally she would be surrounded by furry, purring momma and brothers and sisters).
Listen HERE This week I have the absolute pleasure of interviewing new NZ abolitionist podcaster and animator Emmy James from the Vegan For Life Podcast. We talk about her journey to veganism, her animation and podcast, and her plans for the future as a vegan in this world.Enjoy! Thanks to Emmy for coming on the show, please listen to her podcast!Here is a link to the Vegan For Live Blog: http://vegan-for-life.blogspot.com/To access the podcast on iTunes click HERE This is a link to Emmy's YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/veggiegirl142PLEASE VOTE for Emmy's design: Corel Digital Art Competition Emmy JamesWe mentioned Sam from Food for Though RadioAnd Jordan Wyatt from Coexisting With Nonhuman Animals
Listen HEREThis week I talk about a Veganism is not a diet, and I also just want to clarify some of the things I said last time, just to avoid any confusion or misunderstanding. Also, I have a new update about my profile from my job, there is a permanent entry and they have put a link to this website, for which I am very surprised and pleased :)Here is a link to the new profile:http://www.vetcare.net.nz/elizabeth.html This is the link to the CNN article that I mention:Global bake sale is 'sweet' activismAnd this is the link to the article I mention from My Face is on Fire :Flirting With Hypocrisy -- A 'Kinda" DietThanks for listening!
Listen HEREThis week I am very pleased to welcome fellow abolitionist advocate Jeffrey Coolwater. You can find Jeffrey on twitter as MacVeganHere is the link to the blog article we discussed about Jeffrey's 10 "lost years" as a vegetarian, before he discovered veganism and abolition.Here is a link to the groundbreaking interview that we mention of Professor Gary L. Francioneon Vegan Freak RadioYou can find all the audio interviews of Professor Francione on the Audio Page of the Abolitionist Approach websitePlease read Gary Francione's books! (5 of which are available at the Auckland Library)Here is a link to the book Jeffrey mentioned by Bob and Jenna Torres: Vegan Freak: Being Vegan in a Non-Vegan World (Also available at the Auckland Library)This is the cartoon I talked about in the podcast. (HEE HEE!! I just love it!)~ Credit for this hilarious cartoon goes to Ignatz Ziller.Thanks so much Jeffrey for coming on the show!
Listen HEREThis week I relate some experiences from the street stall in the hopes that it will help anyone else who is promoting veganism to people. Big shout out to William Paul for all his help and for being such a wonderful street stall colleague.I also mention some new developments:Barbara De Grande from Veganacious is doing a podcast!!! Please subscribe on iTunes here and you can also listen to the first episode here.Props to Jordan Wyatt from Coexisting with Nonhuman Animals for helping to make this happen.OOO I just went to the blog to post the link and there is a NEW EPISODE UP! You can access it here or I recommend subscribing on iTunes.I also talk about singer-songwriter Ben Frost who is writing music in support of Animal Rights and posting the videos on YouTubeThe first song is called I Am Someone - A Call for Veganism and the second one is called Killed for Taste, Loved for Companionship - The Notes of Moral SchizophreniaPlease subscribe to Ben on YouTube hereI mention a great new blog called Full Irish Vegan. This is the bread I made: Wheaten Loaf Masquerading as Soda Bread. It was so easy and delicious, especially with vegan butter and jam. I talk about Professor Francione new commentary number 16. Please listen here or even better, subscribe to the commentary on iTunes.I mention Colleen Patrick Goudreau's podcast episode where she talks about personal choice. You can hear it here
Listen HEREA Revolution of the Heart by Gary FrancioneSingle Issue Campaigns - Pruning Exploitation - by Dan Cudahy and Angel Flinn - the podcast version can be found here at Live Vegan's YouTube pageThe ever important debate between Erik Marcus and Gary FrancioneMy previous podcast on the "you don't care about the animals who are suffering now" accusation.Our NZ Vegan Facebook PageOur OZVegan & NZVegan Facebook groupThe No Kill Movement
LISTEN HEREI have the absolute pleasure of having Professor Gary L. Francione as a guest. This is part 1 of the interview. Enjoy!
LISTEN HEREThis week I speak with William Paul my fellow abolitionist street staller and vegan advocate from Auckland. We discuss the NZ Vegetarian Society Festival that was held in October, our future plans for advocacy and we also discuss the Auckland Abolitionist Vegans Association, which we will be launching soon!Congratulations to Jordan Wyatt from Coexisting with Nonhuman Animals for creating the Invercargill Vegan Society!Become a member if you live nearby, or become an honorary member by going to this blog entry and leaving a comment:http://coexistingwithnonhumananimals.blogspot.com/2010/12/invercargill-vegan-society-business.html
LISTEN HERERevelations! Now I am wondering if that WAS indeed my first exposure to a video showing animal use, or have I repressed other memories from my specieisist past...?Here is a link to the article I mentioned from the UK abolitionists that made the Aberdeen VoiceHere is a link to the article I mentioned on the Vegan Salt blog: Guest PostThanks for listening!
Listen HEREThis week I talk about something that was inspired through a conversation from the last street stall we did and also by a lot of things going on lately and in fact by all the things I have learned over the last 4 years since I went vegan.Here is the link to the latest Foxconn ProtestHere is the link to the podcast episode I mentioned from This American LifeHere is the link to the story I talked about from the Horn of Africa (note - ignore the bit about the "cattle" and please investigate the other related stories on there such as This One and This One)Here is a link to a petition against the NZ Food Bill, and here is the link to the Food Bill itself, and THIS is an interesting article that someone kindly sent to me about it.Here is the link to the Vegan Pensieve article I mentioned about eggs - Warning - disturbing photosAnd finally, Please Read Gary Francione's Books. The book I mention in the podcast that I quote from is Animals, Property and the Law.Publish PostThanks for listening
Listen HEREPart two of the interview with special guest Gary L. FrancioneHere is a link to the website page I am working on about Adoption/Fostering and Sanctuaries. You can find links to some of the sanctuaries and rescue organisations we mentioned in there:http://nzvegan.wordpress.com/sanctuary-and-adoptionfostering/Here is a link to the podcast Episode with Diane Ellis about Vegecat Vegan Cat Food: NZ Vegan Podcast Episode 60 - Special Guest Diane Ellis, spokesperson for Vegecat vegan cat foodThanks for listening and thank you Gary Francione for coming on the show.
Listen HEREPart one of the interview with special guest Gary L. FrancioneHere is a link to the website page I am working on about Adoption/Fostering and Sanctuaries. You can find links to some of the sanctuaries and rescue organisations we mentioned in there:http://nzvegan.wordpress.com/sanctuary-and-adoptionfostering/Thanks for listeningPart two is next
LISTEN HEREThis week I revisit something that is old news but I think still very relevant for the coming year and all years of the vegan movement, which is that we have no excuse for not promoting veganism unequivocally."All compromise is based on give and take, but there can be no give and take on fundamentals. Any compromise on mere fundamentals is a surrender. For it is all give and no take." ~ GhandiI mention a discussion where things "clicked" for me and I always recommend to all advocates to listen to this discussion between Gary Francione and Erik Marcus: listen here or access it on the Abolitionist Approach audio page (scroll down to find the interview)I mention this article by Corey Wrenn: Academic Discrimination Against VegansHere is Randy Sandberg's fantastic Quotes on Slavery website where you can find a lot of history about the history of the Abolitionist Movement against slavery in the human context which can teach us a lot about the movement today to abolish all slavery, human and nonhuman.I mention that Peaceful Prairie Sanctuary residents need hay for the winter, but anyway they always need help and also I have links to some local sanctuaries and other rescue groups in NZ - please if you are going to donate money to anyone please donate directly to helping animals such as sanctuary, adoption and rescue, rather than to welfare campaigns and organisations.Here is a message of nonviolence for 2012 from Trish Roberts of Lobsa and LiveVegan: A Message of Nonviolence for 2012Here's a great new article just released by Dan Cudahy and Angel Flinn for the New Year: Make the Vegan ResolutionHere is a great new article by Vincent Guihan: Vegan Outreach: how not to do itHappy New Year everyone! :)UPDATE: I just want to add that this particular rant of mine was not a commentary on vegans who are unequivocal vegans in their own lives, and live vegan uncompromisingly, yet don't advocate it as such as an extra activity outside of normal life as vegans, because they are just not really interested in actually being an 'activist" as it were or they are advocating other social justice issues that take up all their free time, however they live vegan; it was specifically due to experiences with vegans who are welfare advocates, with whom I was discussing activism, and their preference of promoting welfare reform, their resistance to promoting veganism at all, and their absolute refusal to do it unequivocally.I recognise that these vegans and all vegans are challenging the status quo by being vegan, and are to an extent being advocates with regard to the example they set to those around them. I am glad for all vegans for being vegan. So I want that to be really clear. This is specifically in regard to the above-described position of welfare advocates.
Listen HEREWhat an idiotic absurdity it is to say that earnest, persistent, uncompromising moral opposition to a system of boundless immorality is the way to strengthen it; and that the way to abolish such a system is to say nothing about it!~ William L. Garrison (April 23, 1858)From http://quotesonslavery.org/what-an-idiotic-absurdity-it-is/
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LISTEN HEREThis week I talk about how important it is that we recognise and help others to recognise that our abolitionist movement for nonviolence is still an abolitionist anti-slavery movement, and our practical focus right now with regard to addressing this problem of violence and animal use has the primary goal, initially, of creating a society in which we can address the abolition of the property status of animals, because that is still where we are at. We haven't even begun to address that! The animal movement still doesn't even have veganism as the moral baseline! But the abolitionist movement does :) By promoting veganism we will create an environment in which we can actually address that, finally! Welfare reforms are useless and do not address the property paradigm. Vegan education does. As Gary Francione said in his latest interview, part of which you can read HERE:"At this point, it makes no sense to focus on the law, because as long as we regard animals as things, as a moral matter, the laws will necessarily reflect that absence of moral value and continue to do nothing to protect animals. We need to change social and moral thinking about animals before the law is going to do anything more."Let's not allow people, neither other vegans nor anti-vegans, to shift our focus to the defeatist, overwhelmingly negative attitudes, which seem to be fixated on all the things still currently out of our control as individuals (the majority of food production, sidewalks, tyres etc) and which prompt the vegans to identify their reason for opposing vegan education as being "too pure" or "unrealistic" (which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever) and anti-vegans to make absurd claims that animal use is an action that is equal in morality to veganism. I want us to remind people what being vegan really means, and what our abolitionist movement really means, especially at this point in history, where we are still in this incredibly non vegan world, in which chattel slavery of sentient beings is still very much accepted as the norm and in which new welfarism is the dominant paradigm and therefore welfarism is still provided and marketed by the majority of vegans as the correct response to the issue of animal use. Wrong answer! Veganism is the correct response, as we know. We just have to continue to be a clear voice, and our voice is growing. Thank you all so much, for being such wonderful, clear voices. Please read Gary Francione's work to learn about the importance of the abolition of the property status of animals and why veganism and the promotion of veganism is the correct response, the only response to that immoral status which still exists in our world today.http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/books/http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/category/podcast/I mention Randy W. Sandberg and his wonderful advice about not feeding trolls (I am still trying to find the article he shared, will post when I find it..)I mention Trisha Roberts from LiveVegan and her wonderful messages about insects, and I mention her organisation lobsa.orgI mentioned a video about nuclear pollution, posted by Renata Peters from The Alice Springs Vegan Society which you can also check out here at the latest article on Myl ène Ouellet's blog My Face is on Fire Thanks for listening :)
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LISTEN HEREThis week I have a very special guest over for dinner and cupcake making and podcasting - Emmy James from Peaceful Abolitionist and the Vegan For Life podcastEmmy is the very talented designer of our NZ Vegan logo and check out these wonderful designs she hand painted onto shirts and sweatshirts also. See also the photo of Clare who we mention who has helped us at the stall and is so much fun!Thanks for listening!
LISTEN HEREThis week I am very pleased to welcome back William Paul who tells us his latest good news and we discuss some experiences we have at with religious advocates while doing our street stall, and also I recount a couple of personal experiences I have had related to that.Thanks for listening and thank you William for coming on the show!
LISTEN HEREIn part two of the interview we discuss single issue campaigns, in relation to the recent debate that Professor Francione took part in with Dario Ringach which was partly the inspiration of the blog essay:Why Veganism Must Be the Baselinewhich I recommend as a must read for all advocates.We also discuss the latest Abolitionist Approach blog essay:Nothing to Do with Sciencein which the latest attempt at using the age old "plant question" is addressed.Thank you, Professor Francione!
LISTEN HEREThis week it is my absolute pleasure to welcome back to the podcast Professor Gary L. Francione.In part one of the interview we discuss his new book:The Animal Rights Debate: Abolition or Regulation?which was co-authored with Robert Garner.Enjoy and stay tuned for part two!
LISTEN HERERelevant links to this podcast:Veganism as a Minimum Standard of Decency by Dan Cudahy from Unpopular Vegan EssaysThe articles about the Vegan Society's advertising of non vegan establishments, inluding a pdf of a thread on facebook that was deleted after they shamefully deleted Gary Francione from the page:http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/i-wonder-what-donald-watson-founder-of-the-vegan-society-would-think/http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/its-not-1946/http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-need-for-a-vegan-society/http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/pdf/why-are-non-vegan-restaurants-advertised-in-the-vegan.pdfThe article on John Robbins I mentioned, by Mylène Ouellet:http://my-face-is-on-fire.blogspot.com/2010/07/animal-advocacy-leaders-hall-of-fail.htmlAnd finally, a response to the latest claims by welfare advocates pointing to the same study each time it seems:http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/science-weighs-in-animal-welfare-reform-is-useless/Thanks for listening
LISTEN HEREA thought for the future; not knowing is a wiser way to live in a lot of ways.Those who say, do not know; those who know, do not say. ~ Lao TzuAnd don't be overwhelmed by those darn animal product use diagrams making the rounds, you know the ones I mean, they are very "popular" amongst poverty of ambition advocates as another excuse for despairing! Let them spur you on to be even more active and even more determined.
LISTEN HERE (Huge apologies for the terrible audio quality, I hit record without first verifying the input, so instead of my logitech headphones it was set to the inbuilt mic, which is why there is all that noise and stuff. It happens sometimes lol )Here is the article of the interview with Gary Francione that I mentioned: http://www.free.org.il/english/articles/gary.html(What he says is about "passivity" and exactly is not necessarily what I paraphrased, but it certainly made me understand that the "pacifist" claim made against us is trying to insinuate "passivity" and that is not true).Here is another quote from Gary Francione about this subject:"Those who claim that the abolitionist approach [to animal rights] advises inactivity misunderstand that the idea is to engage in *effective* advocacy rather than in wheel-spinning and counterproductive activity that generates donations and bequests for large groups."Here is the article by Randy Sandberg on his Vegans for Peace website that I mentioned:http://vegansforpeace.org/2010/03/13/why-are-you-a-vegetarian/Here is the article by Emmy James that I mentioned:Facebook link (you will probably only be able to see it if you are a facebook contact of Emmy's)Here is the quote by Mylène Ouellet that I mentioned:http://quotesonslavery.org/whats-hard-about-veganism-isnt-being-vegan/Here is the must read article Why Veganism by Eva Batt:http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/text/why-veganism-by-eva-batt/Also available HERE
Listen HEREWhat are we afraid of? It's not like we are being arrested by the KGB:BBC outlook: Belarus Free Theatrehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus_Free_TheatreAnd if people stopped doing violent things and stupid things we won't have to worry about anything like that, now would we? Please promote veganism! Peacefully! more to come....