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Modern brewers, distillers and barbecue pitmasters celebrate the mastery of fire and grain as building blocks of human survival, modern culture and creative expression. We sit down for drinks with these masters to talk about their stories, philosophies, and the art of handcrafting fire and grain.

Nick Parsons & Justin Carroll


    • Sep 1, 2022 LATEST EPISODE
    • infrequent NEW EPISODES
    • 1h 50m AVG DURATION
    • 42 EPISODES

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    EP41: Improving Your Grilling Immediately

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2022 77:34


    Nick speaks with Zach Rowell, Director of CX from Hasty Bake Grills, to talk about Zach's history and intro to Hasty Bake. They also touch on the Scratch and Dent sale event coming up. Lastly, they ponder the top 5 pieces of advice to improve your grilling immediately. 

    EP40: 1907 Barbecue - Movin' on Up!

    Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2022 40:51


    We're excited to update you about 1907 Barbecue's launch and the first couple of months! Justin updates us on all the fun of getting the brick-and-mortar opened and the crazy response they've had. Nick touches on his Bourbon Trail trip and a bit about what's next for Fire and Grain

    EP39: Risk It for the Brisket (with guest Clint Pollard)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2022 91:26


    Co-host Nick, along with friend Clint Pollard, recount their recent massive, 1600-mile BBQ tour of Texas, where they visited 14 of the Texas Monthly's top BBQ joints in the state. Strap in, this one is loaded with info about restaurants, menus, wait times, and personal reviews of each place. 

    EP38: Mezcal-ing Our Way Through Mexico (with guest Chef Shannon Smith)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2022 96:57


    Chef Shannon is back and is schooling the guys on all things mezcal. She also recounts her recent travels to Mexico and updates us on her upcoming cookbook and her yearly chef's dinner. 

    What We Do Today Turns to $h!t Tomorrow (with guests Adam Green and Chris West)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2022 137:20


    After a long break, Nick is joined by Adam and Chris and they discuss: The new Lassalle's French Market and Farm The legend of Donny Teel What supporting local means Price gouging toilet paper Making the most of the legendary Cain's Ballroom  Macs Mayfest version 2.0 Boiling Crawfish for 5000 and when to buy them Partying at Green Acres

    EP36: Yuletide Logs and New Years Toasts

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2022 156:47


    Host Nick Parsons, along with guests Adam Green and Craig Kus talk about BBQ and family traditions during the holidays, along with new ventures and childhood memories that still stick with them to this day.

    EP35: BONUS CONTENT - LIVE Zoom Class!

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 22, 2021 103:22


    Nick and Justin host a live class for Tulsa Barbecue School where they answer questions, talk different techniques, and get specifc with tips and tricks. Pull up a chair and sit in on this bonus Zoom conversation!

    EP34: The Globe-Trotting Culinary Philanthropist (with guest Chef Shannon Smith)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2021 127:19


    Nick and Kevin join world-traveler, chef-extraordinaire and humble teacher, Shannon Smith, as she documents some of her favorite stories from journeys around the world, highlighting experiences with live-fire in many different countries. Her videos and blogs on chefshannon.com give people a glimpse inside Shannon's experiences and travels. She talks multiple recipes and cooking styles with Nick and Kevin  (and brings dinner!) and shares a few laughs and cocktails as they broaden their horizons of "bbq" and bold flavors. Her cookbook is set to be released soon.

    EP33: Adapt or Die (How to Cook Without Going Broke)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2021 95:56


    The guys give a "BBQ Industry" update from the food side and the equipment side, and then jump right into the real applicable stuff - how to adapt in this changing meat environment. Including cooking off cuts home butchering primals finding hard to find stuff utilizing new cuts for old recipes They also touch on some summer trends, good and bad, and mixed method grilling. 

    EP32: The Thrill of the Hunt (with the Grippando Clan)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2021 107:04


    *Content Warning* This episode contains graphic explanations of hunting scenarios to educate listeners about the process of obtaining and cooking wild game On this epsiode Nick is joined by the Grippando family, local hunters and amatuer chefs who recently completed a DIY Colorado Elk hunt and retell their stories, processes, and recipes.

    EP31: The Family Table (with guest Kevin Snell)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2021 118:45


    Nick is joined by friend of the show Kevin Snell to discuss how we share meals, recipes, and traditions with our family. The guys discuss: Favorite memories surrounding food and family Their best family recipes still in frequent rotation Techniques from family life that have shaped how they cook now Evolving recipes over the years Family recipe books

    EP30: Peace, Love, Cheeseburgers

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2021 100:29


    In an epic battle of burger-awesomeness, the guys debate, discuss, and throw punches over the best damn burgers out there. Your mouth will water as they decide: Smashburgers, diner burgers, or thick burgers Grinds/blends Cheese, seasoning Grilled, flat topped, smoked Buns and toppings Restaurant burger ratings

    EP29: No Sleep Til Brisket - Tulsa Brisket Co.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2021 65:37


    Pitmaster and owner of Tulsa Brisket Co., Phillip, talks about his BBQ raisin', the philosophy behind mouthwatering brisket and original craft sides, and the joys of owning a food truck in the Oklahoma summer.

    EP28: Living on the Edge - Edge Craft Barbecue

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2021 82:20


    An awesome conversation with pitmaster and owner Zack of Edge Craft Barbecue about the theology of BBQ, it's origins and the launch of his new BBQ joint in OKC.

    EP27: The Birth of a Pig Farmer - Prairie Creek Farms

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 12, 2021 131:47


    The backstory of Prairie Creek Farm with farmer Nate, along with discussions on ethical farming, current regulations, the ongoing meat price battle, and the importance of supporting local farms.

    EP26: Devil's Advocate: The Epic BBQ Debate

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2021 62:18


    The guys throw down in an epic battle of wits and strength. Well, not really, but they do have some good-spirited debate on the following topics: Grass finished vs Grain Finished Dry age vs wet age Dry rub ribs vs sauced ribs Beef burnt ends vs pork belly burnt ends Fall off the bone ribs vs some pull Sweet vs savory cornbread Santa maria brisket (mind blown)

    EP25: It's Hip to be Square (Trendiness in BBQ)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2021 82:21


    The guys are addressing 2021 BBQ trends such as: Grilled Veggies and pandemic gardens Weird, fancy spices and chef shows Live fire grilling in the backyard Mixed-method grilling and sous vide Technology in the grill Burgers - smashburgers vs bigmouth burgers and more!

    EP24: Spring Cleaning, Smothered, Covered and Grease-Fired (a mailbag episode)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2021 105:19


    The guys work thru recent mailbag questions such as: Spring cleaning tips for pits and grills Is it important to clean your pit? Reseasoning? Is it a thing? Why? Charcoal types: What’s the difference?  What is creosote and why is it bad? What to do with all that grease!? Must-have nearby items when cooking. Marinate vs rub vs injection vs baste Sauce - when to use, when not to When to use direct heat and when to use indirect

    EP23: Sausage is My Safe Word (with special guests Craig the Butcher, Adam Green, and Donny Teel)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2021 116:33


    On this star-studded episode, we talk about: Sausage Brothers Meat & Deli and the history of Craig the Butcher New adventures in business Mac's Mayfest - the huge summer kickoff party Adam Green of Mac's BBQ is planning Donny Teel, one of the winningest folks in KCBS, tells us stories of competition BBQ. 

    EP22: Tending the Backyard Fires (with guest Wes Fallis)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2021 105:07


    On this episode Nick and Wes talk about learning backyard BBQ and what it takes to start a new hobby. They talk pits, meat, processes and fire. Justin also joins remotely and walks us thru cooking on his 1000 gallon pit and prepping for food truck service.

    EP21: The Killer Wail (with guest Oliver Larrabee of Killer Wail BBQ

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 9, 2021 108:53


    On their first video-podcast ever, the guys talk with BBQ biz owner Oliver Larrabee of Killer Wail BBQ about flavor, technique, and cooking in negative-degree temps. They also passionately discuss jam vs jelly, how to make the best grits, and why Nick shouldn't ice his scotch (they're wrong). 

    EP20: The Queen Carnivore and The Great SuperBowl Snack Debate of 2021 (with guest Jess Pryles of Hardcore Carnivore)

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 4, 2021 50:37


    The guys and Jess talk about: History of Hardcare Carnivore Just Keep Flipping #JKF method Meat Science School Best SuperBowl snacks by location Valentine's lobster tails

    EP19: 1 Bourbon, 1 Scotch, 10 Beers with the Real-World Ron Swanson (actually, Wes Alexander)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2021 134:15


    Nick and Wes talk about: Marshall Brewing The beer making process and history Parallels of beer and BBQ Fermenting and home brewing Crafting art like woodworking Scotch Family histories

    EP18: The Epic Christmas (Hanukkah!) Epsiode

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2020 199:23


    On this most epic of Christmas episodes, our many guests share some stories, read their worst yelp reviews, pour some creative cocktails, recount 2020 highlights, and generally just yell and sing at each other. We wish you a Merry Christmas (and Hanukkah!)! (with guests Chris West, Adam Green, Ben Kilgore, and Hunter Gambill)

    EP17: Recipe for Making Love (with guest Ben Kilgore)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2020 166:30


    This episode we're joined by musician, foodie, and home-cook extraordinaire Ben Kilgore. We discuss: 1907's crazy Thanksgiving and future Christmas plans Ben's backstory and music career His love of cooking, grilling and Hasty Bake The marriage of music and food for artists Restaurant hot takes and home cooking creativity Ben sings for us...cuz that's what he does.

    EP16: Days of Whiskey and Marigolds (with guest Eric Bringaze)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2020 132:47


    Sadly missing co-host Justin, Nick chats with spirits expert and field sales manager for a major spirits company, Eric Bringaze. They touch on tons of super interesting topics from the spirits world, including: The distillation process How allocation works How does distribution happen Are we in a bourbon boom? Shortages and hoarders The Bourbon Secondary Market Price fixing and gouging Barrel picks Tips and tricks for purchasing

    EP15: The Thanksgiving Episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2020 126:06


    Recorded on Election Night 2020, the boys react in real-time to the disaster that's unfolding, talk about the upcoming Thanksgiving meal and favorite T-day memories. It's good to be back!

    EP14: Sweatpants and Cheese Grits (a Mailbag episode)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 24, 2020 159:07


    The guys, joined by guest Regular Sean and a slew of half-empty whiskey bottles, answer tons of listener-submitted questions and touch on various topics: Why Prime? MSG - Makes Stuff Good? Sous Vide Firewood differences Are chilis/peppers a fad? PELLET GRILLS! OMG! Bologna vs Spam: the showdown Cast iron cooking Cheap smokers vs quality smokers

    EP13: That's All Day (with guest Ryan Arnold, Cabin Boys Brewery)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2020 123:42


    Topics Discussed:  BEER! The start of Cabin Boys Brewery Philosophy of bringing different beer styles to market Collaborations Branching out and trying new beers Importance of approachability in brewing The ever-changing craft beer scene

    EP12.5: The Ramblings of Pyromaniacs

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2020 31:36


    In this special mini-episode, we continue our conversation with pitmaster Kevin Snell, and take a few rabbit trails, including: pellet grills southern comfort food Tulsa restaurants Italian homecooking Food trucks and more!

    EP12: A Song of Fire and Smoke (w/ guest Kevin Snell)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2020 140:51


    Topics include:  Cooking BBQ over live fire Different types of live fire pits Heat management and instinctual cooking Utilizing coals/caveman cooking Temps and times Hanging vs laying protein burning clean fires The romanticism of caveman cooking Basic seasoning 

    EP11: The Inebriated Butcher of Romania

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2020 158:09


    Topics Discussed Mescal and tequila. Prune liqueur. Making your own rubs and bringing them to market. Whole-hog bbq. The definition of Oklahoma style bbq. Throwing a whole hog cook. Butchering pigs in Romania (for real).

    EP10: The BBQ Taco Takeover

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2020 123:49


    Topics discussed:  Can you define BBQ? Fusion BBQ Tex-Mex BBQ Asian-inspired que Can you put anything in a taco and still call it a taco? Non-traditional protein cuts Live-fire, romanticism, and caveman-ness

    EP9: Hitchhiker's Guide to Throwing Backyard BBQ's, or How to Feed Alot of People (with guest John Karr)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2020 131:20


    With 4th of July coming, a lot of people cook for larger-than-normal crowds. The guys discuss tons of techniques on how to have a successful backyard cookout, with details, timelines, recipes and hard lessons. Topics discussed: Crowd-pleaser recipes Food quantities Keeping things warm/holding Timelines Backup plans Cooking ahead Serving and portions Party fails and follies

    EP8: Diary of an Underaged Brewmaster (with guest Ben Birney)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2020 131:05


    Topics discussed: Ben's story and journey Home-brewing Studying abroad Working at different breweries Scaling home brew to restaurant Brew equipment Inspiration of brewers Equipment failures and fiascos Love of bbq and crafting products

    EP7: The Sanitizer Mafioso (with special guest Hunter Gambill)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2020 125:38


    Topics discussed: How sanitizer saved everyone Alcohol laws in Oklahoma Distilling and brewing Starting new businesses Uniting the world with tacos The importance of air conditioning Cartels aren't all bad Influencers and Yelp

    EP6: Damn Good BBQ (with guest Adam Green)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2020 116:26


    Discussion Points        The guys talk to Adam Green of Mac’s BBQ in Skiatook, Oklahoma Bottled in bond whiskies and allocation selections Deep dive in barbecue The story of Mac’s BBQ and how Adam came to be the owner Old school vs new school bbq Getting bit by the “bbq bug” Competition bbq and learning from the masters Pit preferences and differences Using the right type of wood Holding temperatures and techniques Mac’s “celebrity steak night”

    EP5: Gettin' Chefy with It (with Kevin Snell)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2020 117:09


    The guys talk to James Beard-nominee Executive Chef, Kevin Snell, about his story, fishing and campfires, where he’s worked and what he’s learned. They discuss opening restaurants and  what it entails. They talk about home butchery (PG-13 rating) and respecting the animals we raise. Kevin talks about sourcing local ingredients. Keven reveals his next adventure.

    EP4: United Steaks of America and Cooking with Shovels (with special guest Brett Galloway)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2020 105:27


    Brett Galloway, co-founder of the Steak Cookoffs Association (SCA) talks about their history, and some memorable moments in past years Nick & Justin discuss steak cuts and grades They cover grassfed and grainfed beef and dry aging preferences They share their favorite steak cooking processes Justin volunteers his man-card.

    EP3: The Cajun Manifesto and Why BBQ Unites Us (with special guest Chris West)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2020 98:43


    Our guest, Christ West, talks about Justin Wilson, Leah Chase, Paul Prudhomme and their influence over cajun, creole, and his own food. Chris tells his story about his restaurant, Lassalle's,  Hurricane Katrina, and how him and his wife met. The guys explore the concept of boucheries and whether they should be more predominant in current society. Chris tells us how he got into barbecue and why he relates to it.  

    EP2: Farmers State of the Union and the Time Justin Almost Died (with Angela of 413 Farms)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 8, 2020 87:10


    Angie from 413 Farms breaks down the mess that is the current American farming system.  Nick and Justin swap stories of BBQ fails

    EP1: The Tornado Made Us Reschedule

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 30, 2020 84:00


    Nick and Justin sum up what this podcast is going to be about They talk about COVID and how its affecting local restaurants and farms

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