Podcasts about second anointing

As part of our mini-series on Mormonism's Second Anointing Ritual, we are re-releasing part of Hans and Birgitta's original interview discussing their participation in this exclusive ceremony. ⁠Hans H. Mattsson⁠ is a 3rd generation LDS church member from Sweden who served as a bishop and stake president in Sweden before serving in the LDS church 3rd Quorum of the Seventy from 2000-2005 in the Europe Central area under LDS Apostle L. Tom Perry. After discovering troubling information about the Church's history and truth claims, the Mattssons, along with many Swedish saints wanted answers, leading up to the Church's infamously poor attempt to keep them in the fold, now known as "the Swedish Rescue." Truth Seeking with Hans & Birgitta Mattsson: Part 1 Part 2 Remembering the Swedish Rescue: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Hans' book may be purchased here

In this compelling rebroadcast (first time on youtube), we revisit John Dehlin's 2012 interview with Tom Phillips, a U.K. convert and former LDS stake president whose close friendships with LDS leaders like Harold Hillam, Gordon Hinkley, Russel Ballard, and Jeffrey Holland likely led to the invitation to receive the religion's most exclusive ordinance, the Second Anointing. However, Tom's journey would soon take an unexpected turn after taking part in the secretive ritual which would have repercussions for his place among the community and even his own family. Since the original episode, an intriguing twist has emerged: Tom's son, Alan, has ascended to the role of General Authority in the Church, despite his father's well-documented disaffection. This development adds a poignant layer to an already complex narrative of faith, doubt, and family dynamics within the LDS Church. Whether you're hearing this story for the first time or revisiting it with fresh ears, Tom Phillips' journey continues to resonate, raising thought-provoking questions about faith, truth, and the accountability and privilege of Mormonism's top leaders.

Derren Klein didn't know a split-second decision to examine a document headed for the trash would blow open not just a family secret, but one of the Mormon Church's most-guarded, controversial, and exclusive rituals: the Second Anointing. This discovery set Klein on a transformative journey as he confronted unsettling truths about his faith, family history, and the very foundations of Mormonism. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mormonstories/message

A former Mormon Temple Presidency member from the U.K., Martin Lock, candidly discusses his disillusionment with the LDS Church after learning troubling historical facts. He reveals shocking details about temple rituals, the Second Anointing ceremony granting eternal life, and how polygamy drove the creation of temple sealings. Lock's journey from devout believer to critic exposes the deep schism between the Church's teachings and its origins. Show Notes YouTube Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon PayPal Venmo Our Platforms: Youtube Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com  PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117  Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

Shrouded in secrecy, the Second Anointing ritual promises the highest blessings of exaltation and godhood to worthy Mormons. But with its history steeped in polygamy and secret combinations, this ceremonial rite has sparked intense debate. Uncover the veiled truths of this sacred ordinance as we delve into accounts from former members, historical documents, and the church's tight-lipped stance on this most enigmatic of Mormon mysteries. Show Notes YouTube Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon PayPal Venmo Our Platforms: Youtube Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com  PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117  Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

During the last years of his life, the prophet Joseph Smith gave multiple public sermons dealing with 2 Peter 1, wherein the apostle Peter encourages his readers to “give diligence to make your calling and election sure” (vs. 10). Commenting on this phrase the prophet explained that to have one's “calling and election” made sure meant to “obtain a promise from God for yourselves that you shall have eternal life.” And he explained that such a promise could be mediated through the keys restored by Elijah. By “this power of Elijah,” he said on one occasion, “we are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise. [And] to obtain this sealing is to make our calling and election sure.” In another sermon he confirmed, “the power of Elijah is sufficient to make our calling and election sure.”  In 2 Peter 1, Peter also speaks of obtaining the “more sure word of prophecy” (vs. 19), a phrase the prophet Joseph similarly interpreted to mean “a man's knowing that he was sealed up unto eternal life … through the power of the Holy priesthood.”   This was the theology—the possibility of being sealed up unto eternal life under the keys restored by Elijah.  Then came the practice.  Beginning in 1843 in Nauvoo, the prophet introduced a sacred ordinance to his most trusted associates wherein, using the keys of Elijah which he held, husbands and wives were sealed up unto eternal life. This was not the marriage ordinance. This was more, given to those already married. It was an ordinance sometimes referred to in the historical record as “the second anointing.”  In this episode of Church History Matters, Casey and Scott discuss what they know about the theology and early practice of the second anointing. We also discuss the early—and now discontinued—sealing practice called “the law of adoption” wherein men and women were sealed into the families of Church leaders as their children. They also briefly touch on the now extinct practice of temple-like prayer circles that were conducted outside of the temple for many years in our history.  For show notes and transcript for this and other episodes go to https://doctrineandcovenantscentral.org/church-history-matters-podcast/   

Go To http://patreon.com/MormonRenegade368 For Exclusive Content   Today on the podcast we are going to talk about some pretty heady stuff so if you haven't already you might want to sign up for the Six-dollar Patreon option so you can get the transcript and hit all the scriptural references here. On this episode I have Sean Anderson on the podcast to talk about the One-Man Doctrine. We cover what it is, the history of it in Mormonism, where the idea sprouts from and its implications. We then take a deep dive into scripture and history and what we find is that scripture might be saying something completely different than what many of us had supposed. Because this conversation touches so heavily on the ideas of keys and authority, we are forced to take a pretty significant dive into the second anointing, and the principles of priesthood keys and presiding. Get ready for a thought-provoking episode of the MRP      Go To deseretflag.com to get your Deseret Flag Today   https://www.facebook.com/groups/1387509248835311/?ref=share_group_link --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Matt discusses how isolating and difficult an LDS mission can be for a missionary who endures rejection many times a day. We encourage Christians to befriend missionaries and engage in respectful and critical conversation. He alludes to some odd happenings in his LDS mission before his time there (the same mission Mitt Romney served in) when several missionaries eventually followed a counselor to the French Mission president into the LeBaron polygamy group in Mexico. 

This week Jake and Dusti chat about a super-secret, upper echelon, culty ordinance in the church called the Second Anointing. Not much is known about it because no one is supposed to talk about it! Listen to learn all about it! Rate, review, & subscribe!

Through a series of serendipitous events, a complete transcript of the Second Anointing Ritual has come into my hands. Several other podcasts have talked about the Second Anointing, but here I reveal the details of the actual ordinance itself! I desire all to partake . . .

Through a series of serendipitous events, a complete transcript of the Second Anointing Ritual has come into my hands. Several other podcasts have talked about the Second Anointing, but here I reveal the details of the actual ordinance itself! I desire all to partake . . . The post RFM: 288: Second Anointing Ritual: The Complete Script! appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.

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In this episode we go over the second anointing and its requirements.From the Book of Remembrance:"And laying her hands upon the head of her husband, Adam, Eve did bless him and ordain him as the head of the human family, a ruler and High Priest of the Most High  God, to rule and reign in the House of Israel forever. And she further blessed her husband, as the Spirit directed, and all those in the circle witnessed angels coming to rejoice; for they knew Adam as Michael, their archangel, he who had led them before he was born; yea he who, in the name of Jesus Christ, had cast out those that had rebelled against God. And it came to pass that when it was finished, Adam did bless Eve, his wife, ordaining her a ruler and High Priestess of the Most High God, to rule and reign in the House of Israel with her husband forever. And the angels and the witnesses rejoiced and shouted: Hosanna! to God and the Lamb, glorifying them forever and ever; Saying: So mote it be, and Amen." -Book of Remembrance 23:6-11Music: “Impact Moderato” by Kevin MacLeodClick here to become a patron.Support the show

"The Second Anointing"Bro. Chris Green3/26/23 Connect with us!Instagram: instagram.com/eurekachurchFacebook: Facebook.com/TheEurekaChurchYoutube: youtube.com/c/EurekaThePentecostalChurchWebsite: eureka.churchListen/Download this sermon on Spotify or Apple Podcast - Eureka the Pentecostal Church

When Douglas Stilgoe, AKA "Nemo the Mormon" on YouTube, no longer felt he could publicly sustain Mormonism's top leadership of apostles & prophets due to multiple acts of demonstrable dishonesty, he lost one of Mormonism's highest privileges: the ability to attend the Temple. For Mormons, Temple worship goes FAR beyond religious ceremony. It is the gate by which believing Mormons qualify for Exaltation, the highest level of Heaven & privilege in the after-life according to Mormon theology, and by which marriages & family relationships are "sealed" together for eternity. Thus, losing the privilege of Temple worship doesn't just risk an individual's OWN eternal reward, but also puts one's eternal marriage and other family ties in jeopardy, some even to the extent of believing that faithful spouses and children will be "reassigned" to a faithful stranger who will replace the unbelieving spouse or parent in Heaven. It is also synonymous with personal "worthiness", so any Mormons not permitted inside are often thought to be committing or in the process of repenting from egregious sins, such as adultery. Mormons who are not considered "worthy" to perform Temple ordinances themselves are also barred from even attending ordinances - like weddings - of any friends and family that take place there, another significant source of pain and alienation for some. Naturally, Doug found it problematic that for believing Mormons, such important things as Exaltation and Eternal Family can be held hostage and denied for something as simple as refusing to agree to sustain leaders who, by virtue of a supposedly secret ordinance known as the "Second Anointing," are exempt from any accountability towards members of the Church, even for bold, deliberate acts of harm and dishonesty. ...or are they? This episode documents attempts made by Doug (Nemo) to get to the bottom of whether Mormon doctrines & practices meant to instill accountability from its earliest days and scripture are still applicable today, or whether they've become mere ritual, devoid of any meaningful significance other than virtue-signaling conformity and a continued commitment to blind obedience. As a squeaky wheel unable to be assuaged or silenced by local leadership, Nemo surprises everyone (including himself) when he manages to bypass the usual gatekeepers and break through the glass ceiling separating Mormonism's apostles and prophets from the rank-and-file, successfully garnering the attention of none other than second highest-ranking apostle and next in line to become prophet, Dallin H. Oaks. How did it go? Tune it to find out! Nemo the Mormon YouTube Channel "Evidence of Dishonesty" - Nemo's document (coming soon!) Nemo's Coverage on Mormonism LIVE with Bill Reel, Radio Free Mormon, and John Dehlin Episode Show Notes Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon Pick “Mormon Stories” as your charity on Amazon Smile or through the Amazon App  Our Platforms: Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com  PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117  Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

Christine Carol Robinson Burton is the niece of the late Mormon prophet Gordon B. Hinckley, and the daughter of Oliver Preston Robinson and Christine Hinckley Robinson.  Christine's father, Preston or "Pres" was a prominent professor of advertising a the University of Utah, general manager of the Deseret News Publishing Company and editor of the Deseret News, and a personal mentor to the late Mormon prophet Thomas S. Monson.  Preston was mentioned seven different times in the LDS Church-approved biography of Thomas S. Monson. In Christine's heartbreaking and inspiring story, she relates several tragic Mormon-related stories, including: Experiencing psychological, physical and sexual abuse at the hands of her parents. Feeling deep confusion trying to reconcile her parents' abuse with her own self-worth, given that her parents/family were publicly lauded on multiple occasions by several Mormon prophets as being exemplary.  This included her father being called as mission president in England, and both of her parents receiving their Second Anointing after the abuse. Her attempts to tell both Gordon B. Hinckley and Thomas S. Monson (as sitting prophets/apostles) about the abuse she experienced at the hands of her parents - wherein she was told by both that she needed to "put it behind her." The death by suicide of her gay son. Her loss of Mormon faith. Her commitment to helping others heal and grow after Mormonism. We hope you find value in this heartbreaking and inspiring episode. Show Notes: O. Preston Robinson's (her father's) Obituary In Sacred Loneliness Emily Dickenson Robin In Nest Poem  The Trevor Project  ————— We are 100% donor funded! Please click HERE to donate and keep this content coming! Click here to donate monthly: $10 $25 $50 ————— MSP on Spotify MSP on Apple Podcasts MSP Blog Instagram Patreon TikTok Discord   Contact Us! *MormonStories@gmail.com *PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117

This top secret temple ritual will let you sin forever with no consequences! The second anointing is an exclusive temple ritual only for the elites. Support the show

BYU professor of religion, mission president, temple president, LDS church area authority, personal friend of Mormon prophet Gordon B. Hinckley, and likely recipient of the top secret Mormon church Second Anointing ritual. In today's episode Matt tells his story of being one of several victims of sexual abuse by his grandfather - who served at some of the highest levels of Mormon church leadership. Matt is joined by Stephanie, his wife. Both share their Mormon stories, which include their faith journeys after discovering problematic Mormon church history. **Trigger warning on this episode*** ————— We are 100% donor funded! Please click HERE to donate and keep this content coming! Click here to donate monthly: $10 $25 $50 —————

In Mormonism the very elite of membership including Stake Presidents, Mission Presidents, along with Seventies and the top 15 along with all their wives receive a secret ritual that confers to them that their “Calling and Election” has been made sure. What is this ritual? What do we know about it? How has the church… Read More »Mormonism LIVE: 038: The Second Anointing

In Mormonism the very elite of membership including Stake Presidents, Mission Presidents, along with Seventies and the top 15 along with all their wives receive a secret ritual that confers to them that their “Calling and Election” has been made sure. What is this ritual? What do we know about it? How has the church […]

In Mormonism the very elite of membership including Stake Presidents, Mission Presidents, along with Seventies and the top 15 along with all their wives receive a secret ritual that confers to them that their “Calling and Election” has been made sure. What is this ritual? What do we know about it? How has the church […] The post Mormonism LIVE: 038: The Second Anointing appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.

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In Mormonism the very elite of membership including Stake Presidents, Mission Presidents, along with Seventies and the top 15 along with all their wives receive a secret ritual that confers to them that their “Calling and Election” has been made sure. What is this ritual? What do we know about it? How has the church […] The post Mormonism LIVE: 038: The Second Anointing appeared first on Radio Free Mormon.

Pastor Priji was ministering through a Zoom Call for a church in Belapur, Maharashtra. Here is the teaching from the zoom call, without the translation, we pray that this will equip and help you! To extend an invitation to Pastor Priji or any of the leaders at Bangalore Revival Center, visit http://pastorpriji.com/invite

    The Second Anointing, Part 3 of Chapter 8 of Holy Priesthood Volume 2   Pages 114 to 124 http://ogdenkraut.com/?page_id=124 September 28, 1843 (exactly four months after their marriage had been sealed), Joseph and Emma Smith received their second anointing in an upper room of the Nauvoo Mansion House. They were the first couple in this dispensation to be “anointed and ordained to the highest and holiest order of the priesthood,” also referred to as “the fullness of the Priesthood.” (See “Joseph Smith’s Introduction of Temple Ordinances. . .”, Andrew Ehat, pp. 94-96.) This higher ordinance was sometimes called a “second endowment,” which is really not accurate because there is only one endowment for a person. Other terms are “highest ordinance” and “higher blessings,” but the more proper term was given by Wilford Woodruff’s First Presidency when people were writing to him to sign their temple recommend. They wrote: “This decision applies to all ordinances attended to in the House of the Lord, except Second Anointings, which last named will still require the approval of the President of the Church before they can be administered.” (Mess. of the First Pres., Clark, 3:228) It has been assumed by some that Priesthood was actually conferred upon women either in the first endowment or the second anointing. However, the wording in both of these ordinances makes no mention of conferring Priesthood through those administrations. http://ogdenkraut.com/?page_id=30

Thought you knew all there was to know about LDS temple rituals? Think again! Join us as we learn about the Second Anointing. If you'd like to support us, we would be so grateful: patreon.com/notsomollymormon Email us: notsomollymormonpodcast@gmail.com

Let's talk about leadership in the Mormon Church. From mission leadership to bishops to general authorities, we discuss our experiences and some of the problems with leadership. Our tangents today include grace, ministering, and the Second Anointing. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/latterdayaints/message

It's our 50th episode!!! We're going back to the temple, one last time, to reveal one of the most secret and sacred of Mormon ceremonies... the Second Anointing. Like, you're literally instructed to NOT ever talk about it, not even to your family. This is the real Fight Club. Right here, right now, in your earbuds. Follow us @drunkmormonpod And we're on Patreon!

Join us for our highly anticipated follow-up interview with both Hans and Birgitta Mattsson during our recent trip to Sweden to visit with those who attended the original "Swedish Rescue" fireside in November, 2010. Our first interview with Hans and Birgitta was released on July 22, 2013 and is noted as one of our most important releases given Hans' church leadership pedigree as a bishop and stake president in Sweden before serving in the LDS church 3rd Quorum of the Seventy from 2000-2005 in the Europe Central area under LDS Apostle L. Tom Perry, as well as the sincere struggles with testimony that both Hans and Birgitta faced after his release as an Area Authority. In this two-part interview, we relive both Hans and Birgitta's ascent through the LDS Church, we elaborate for the first time on Hans and Birgitta's experience receiving the Second Anointing (a rarely-talked about temple ordinance reserved for those in the upper echelons of the LDS Church and described in detail during our epic interview with Tom Phillips), and we discuss the motivations for writing the book, "Truth Seeking: The Story of High-Ranking Mormon Leader Hans Mattsson Seeking Sincere Answers From His Church but Instead Finding Contempt, Fear, Doubt ...and Eventually Peace."

Join us for our highly anticipated follow-up interview with both Hans and Birgitta Mattsson during our recent trip to Sweden to visit with those who attended the original "Swedish Rescue" fireside in November, 2010. Our first interview with Hans and Birgitta was released on July 22, 2013 and is noted as one of our most important releases given Hans' church leadership pedigree as a bishop and stake president in Sweden before serving in the LDS church 3rd Quorum of the Seventy from 2000-2005 in the Europe Central area under LDS Apostle L. Tom Perry, as well as the sincere struggles with testimony that both Hans and Birgitta faced after his release as an Area Authority. In this two-part interview, we relive both Hans and Birgitta's ascent through the LDS Church, we elaborate for the first time on Hans and Birgitta's experience receiving the Second Anointing (a rarely-talked about temple ordinance reserved for those in the upper echelons of the LDS Church and described in detail during our epic interview with Tom Phillips), and we discuss the motivations for writing the book, "Truth Seeking: The Story of High-Ranking Mormon Leader Hans Mattsson Seeking Sincere Answers From His Church but Instead Finding Contempt, Fear, Doubt ...and Eventually Peace."

[paypal-donation] Sandra Tanner is well-known as being a critic of Mormonism.  (Some would even call her an anti-Mormon.)  So why am I, an active Mormon, talking to her?  Because she and her husband Jerald were the first people to question the authenticity of the Salamander Letter, a letter forged by Mark Hofmann that threatened the founding stories of the LDS Church.  Mark Hofmann met Sandra Tanner with a mind to give greater publicity to his forgeries. Sandra describes her first meetings with Mark.  In this first episode, we'll get acquainted with her, and learn how she met Mark Hofmann. https://youtu.be/yiMdtrXfVZQ Sandra:  My husband and I have been critics of Mormonism since 1959 when we got married and started trying to resolve conflicts in our own minds in Mormonism and we started publishing mimeograph[1] stuff if anyone knows what that is. I find young people don't even [know.]  When I say mimeograph is like blank [stare.] Anyways, back in 1959, we started mimeographing off little sheets of paper, pointing out historical discrepancies in Mormonism, which evolved into in [19]64, setting up full time publishing and printing on Mormonism. ... He comes in and hands me a photo of a paper that is supposed to be a copy of the Second Anointing ceremony, temple ceremony.... this was a big deal to have someone to come in and have a photocopy of a document that purported to be from about the 1912 time period from the Salt Lake Temple about the Second Anointing. And it was a one sheet thing and it had a rubber stamp across the side that said Salt Lake Temple, which I assume Mark got made at the stamp company here in Salt Lake. And so here's this document claiming to relate to the Second Anointing thing. And he brings it in to show me. and so this man who, I don't know, he hasn't told me his name. No, he can't tell me his name because he's from a very prominent family. And when his grandpa died, he was helping his mom clean out the attic and they went through his papers and he found this second anointing paper and realized that, wow, this was something he had never heard about before. And so he didn't show it to the family and he has this copy and he wanted to give me a copy, but he couldn't tell me who it was because he was this prominent family and you know, so it's all on the QT, you know, so, so I'm buying this whole thing. And I mean not buying in the sense of paying money. We didn't have it. We had zip money. We never got involved in these documents because we were not in that class of finances. But I realize now he was trying to establish credibility for this piece of paper. And I think by giving me this copy he assumed I would immediately pass it around to people and that would raise the value of it because others were talking about it, knew about it, see? But I didn't because it had no provenance. I don't know who this guy was. I don't know the name of the family. Check out our conversation… Sandra Tanner describes her interactions with Mark Hofmann [1] Mimeograph was a copy technology that has been replaced by copy machines now. Don't forget to check out our interviews with Curt Bench, Shannon Flynn, and George Throckmorton on the Hofmann murders. [paypal-donation]

Join Lindsay as she talks about the history of the Second Anointing, the “Fullness of the Priesthood,” and the ties to Plural Marriage. Links mentioned and articles read in this podcast: The Fullness of the Priesthood: The Second Anointing in […]

Join Lindsay as she talks about the history of the Second Anointing, the “Fullness of the Priesthood,” and the ties to Plural Marriage. Links mentioned and articles read in this podcast: The Fullness of the Priesthood: The Second Anointing in Latter-day Saint Theology and Practice by David John Buerger, Dialogue Vol 16 No 1 Ogden […]

The More Sure Word of Prophecy is when you hear the voice of God Sealing you up unto Eternal Life!  The Holy Spirit of Promise is when the Spirit confirms to you that you will be with those you love Forever.  The Second Anointing is when a Priesthood leader is washes your feet so that you are Clean of the Blood and Sins of this Generation, and Anoints you a King or a Queen, a Priest or Priestess, to rule and reign in the House of Israel Forever!  The Second Comforter is when Jesus Christ himself personally appears to you.  How do we receive all these things?  That is the discussion tonight! The Patriarch of the Church, Samuel Warren Shaffer is in the midst of Revealing the Second Endowment, which has been on ongoing project in the last few days.  The Second Endowment is the deeper mysteries which surround these ordinances and blessings.  Not much will be revealed tonight about that, but perhaps we can get him to comment some on it. we will also be reading Calling and Election Chapter 8 The More sure word of prophecy by Ogden Kraut http://ogdenkraut.com/?page_id=90  Also Read the Book of Ponael https://www.facebook.com/notes/mark-lichtenwalter/the-book-of-ponael/10156197172760344 Frederick speaks of Seer Stones, the Urim and Thumim and The Largeness of Nephi and the Brother of Jared.  

In June of 2012 I interviewed Tom Phillips, former LDS church stake president in London, England U.K.  In this interview he discusses the following: His early experiences as a bishop and stake president in the LDS church, along with is friendship with LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland. His experience receiving a secret/sacred LDS church ordinance called the "Second Anointing," wherein he was anointed by the hands of Elder M. Russel Ballard, and assured exaltation in there hereafter. His subsequent loss of faith over historical and scientific issues with the church. His direct correspondence with then friend, LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland, over these troubling issues. The pain, suffering, and ultimate divorce that he and his family experienced as a result of his faith crisis. Additional detail about Tom's story can be found here. At the time I conducted this interview I was in deep discussions with my stake president, Mark Jensen, over my status with the church, and my ability to baptize my son.  Out of fear of church discipline, and as a sign of good will to President Jensen, I decided to not release this episode via Mormon Stories podcast, and instead granted permission to Tom to do with it as he saw fit. Over the subsequent months and years I have come to regret this decision made largely out of fear, and want to publicly apologize to Tom for it.  I now feel it is appropriate to release this interview, not because I seek to show disrespect for the LDS church or its temple ordinances, but because Tom's story a very poignant example of the pain and suffering that can come about as many LDS members continue to experience legitimate struggles with the LDS church's truth claims. Since this interview openly discusses secret/sacred LDS temple ordinances, listener discretion is strongly advised.

In June of 2012 I interviewed Tom Phillips, former LDS church stake president in London, England U.K.  In this interview he discusses the following: His early experiences as a bishop and stake president in the LDS church, along with is friendship with LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland. His experience receiving a secret/sacred LDS church ordinance called the "Second Anointing," wherein he was anointed by the hands of Elder M. Russel Ballard, and assured exaltation in there hereafter. His subsequent loss of faith over historical and scientific issues with the church. His direct correspondence with then friend, LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland, over these troubling issues. The pain, suffering, and ultimate divorce that he and his family experienced as a result of his faith crisis. Additional detail about Tom's story can be found here. At the time I conducted this interview I was in deep discussions with my stake president, Mark Jensen, over my status with the church, and my ability to baptize my son.  Out of fear of church discipline, and as a sign of good will to President Jensen, I decided to not release this episode via Mormon Stories podcast, and instead granted permission to Tom to do with it as he saw fit. Over the subsequent months and years I have come to regret this decision made largely out of fear, and want to publicly apologize to Tom for it.  I now feel it is appropriate to release this interview, not because I seek to show disrespect for the LDS church or its temple ordinances, but because Tom's story a very poignant example of the pain and suffering that can come about as many LDS members continue to experience legitimate struggles with the LDS church's truth claims. Since this interview openly discusses secret/sacred LDS temple ordinances, listener discretion is strongly advised.

In June of 2012 I interviewed Tom Phillips, former LDS church stake president in London, England U.K.  In this interview he discusses the following: His early experiences as a bishop and stake president in the LDS church, along with is friendship with LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland. His experience receiving a secret/sacred LDS church ordinance called the "Second Anointing," wherein he was anointed by the hands of Elder M. Russel Ballard, and assured exaltation in there hereafter. His subsequent loss of faith over historical and scientific issues with the church. His direct correspondence with then friend, LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland, over these troubling issues. The pain, suffering, and ultimate divorce that he and his family experienced as a result of his faith crisis. Additional detail about Tom's story can be found here. At the time I conducted this interview I was in deep discussions with my stake president, Mark Jensen, over my status with the church, and my ability to baptize my son.  Out of fear of church discipline, and as a sign of good will to President Jensen, I decided to not release this episode via Mormon Stories podcast, and instead granted permission to Tom to do with it as he saw fit. Over the subsequent months and years I have come to regret this decision made largely out of fear, and want to publicly apologize to Tom for it.  I now feel it is appropriate to release this interview, not because I seek to show disrespect for the LDS church or its temple ordinances, but because Tom's story a very poignant example of the pain and suffering that can come about as many LDS members continue to experience legitimate struggles with the LDS church's truth claims. Since this interview openly discusses secret/sacred LDS temple ordinances, listener discretion is strongly advised.

In June of 2012 I interviewed Tom Phillips, former LDS church stake president in London, England U.K.  In this interview he discusses the following: His early experiences as a bishop and stake president in the LDS church, along with is friendship with LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland. His experience receiving a secret/sacred LDS church ordinance called the "Second Anointing," wherein he was anointed by the hands of Elder M. Russel Ballard, and assured exaltation in there hereafter. His subsequent loss of faith over historical and scientific issues with the church. His direct correspondence with then friend, LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland, over these troubling issues. The pain, suffering, and ultimate divorce that he and his family experienced as a result of his faith crisis. Additional detail about Tom's story can be found here. At the time I conducted this interview I was in deep discussions with my stake president, Mark Jensen, over my status with the church, and my ability to baptize my son.  Out of fear of church discipline, and as a sign of good will to President Jensen, I decided to not release this episode via Mormon Stories podcast, and instead granted permission to Tom to do with it as he saw fit. Over the subsequent months and years I have come to regret this decision made largely out of fear, and want to publicly apologize to Tom for it.  I now feel it is appropriate to release this interview, not because I seek to show disrespect for the LDS church or its temple ordinances, but because Tom's story a very poignant example of the pain and suffering that can come about as many LDS members continue to experience legitimate struggles with the LDS church's truth claims. Since this interview openly discusses secret/sacred LDS temple ordinances, listener discretion is strongly advised.

In June of 2012 I interviewed Tom Phillips, former LDS church stake president in London, England U.K.  In this interview he discusses the following: His early experiences as a bishop and stake president in the LDS church, along with is friendship with LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland. His experience receiving a secret/sacred LDS church ordinance called the "Second Anointing," wherein he was anointed by the hands of Elder M. Russel Ballard, and assured exaltation in there hereafter. His subsequent loss of faith over historical and scientific issues with the church. His direct correspondence with then friend, LDS apostle Jeffrey R. Holland, over these troubling issues. The pain, suffering, and ultimate divorce that he and his family experienced as a result of his faith crisis. Additional detail about Tom's story can be found here. At the time I conducted this interview I was in deep discussions with my stake president, Mark Jensen, over my status with the church, and my ability to baptize my son.  Out of fear of church discipline, and as a sign of good will to President Jensen, I decided to not release this episode via Mormon Stories podcast, and instead granted permission to Tom to do with it as he saw fit. Over the subsequent months and years I have come to regret this decision made largely out of fear, and want to publicly apologize to Tom for it.  I now feel it is appropriate to release this interview, not because I seek to show disrespect for the LDS church or its temple ordinances, but because Tom's story a very poignant example of the pain and suffering that can come about as many LDS members continue to experience legitimate struggles with the LDS church's truth claims. Since this interview openly discusses secret/sacred LDS temple ordinances, listener discretion is strongly advised.