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A brutal double homicide that occurred in Shenendoah National Park's wilderness in 1996 went cold for nearly 3 decades.  Finally, the killer is exposed for what he did to Lollie and Julie.Support the show!For bonus content join our Patreon!patreon.com/CrimeOfftheGridFor a one time donation:https://www.buymeacoffee.com/cotgFor more information about the podcast, check outhttps://crimeoffthegrid.com/Check out our Merch!!  https://in-wild-places.square.site/s/shopFollow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/crimeoffthegridpodcast/ and  (1) FacebookSources:https://www.outsideonline.com/culture/books-media/shenandoah-murders-trailed-kathryn-miles-queer-women-outdoors/ https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/murders-at-shenandoah https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/richmond/news/fbi-richmond-identifies-suspect-in-1996-shenandoah-national-park-double-murder Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders

Kathryn "Kate" Miles, bestselling author of "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenadoah Murders" joins "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the recent FBI announcement that the 1996 murder of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans has been solved. With the news that deceased suspect Walter "Leo" Jackson, Sr. has been connected to the murder via DNA, why is the FB being so secretive about how the case was solved?  Why are press conferences being scheduled with no notice?  Why are so many questions going unanswered? Is the FBI covering up for mistakes as we have seen recently in the Colonial Parkway Murders? This Bonus Episode is Part 2 of 2 parts, and originally ran on July 4, 2024.Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customerWaPo: Convicted serial rapist linked to Shenandoah park murders, FBI sayshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/06/20/shenandoah-park-murders-virginia/Newsweek: FBI Solves 1996 Shenandoah Park Murders: Serial Rapist Killed Women Campershttps://www.newsweek.com/shenandoah-national-park-murders-solved-1915864WTVR CBS News:  Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024WAVY TV 10 News:  New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/WTKR News 3: Colonial Parkway Murders podcast records in Yorktown:https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/colonial-parkway-murders-podcast-records-in-yorktownWVEC 13 News Now:  Live Podcast to Discuss Colonial Parkway Murders Monday in Yorktownhttps://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/crime/true-crime/live-podcast-to-discuss-colonial-parkway-murders-monday-yorktown/291-601dd2b9-d9f2-4b41-a3e1-44bce6f9f6c6Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/WTKR News 3https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-casesVirginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway' murders died alone in 2017https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comJoin the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersFollow Othram's DNA Solves: You can help solve a case. Help fund a case or contribute your DNA. Your support helps solve crimes, enable the identification of John & Jane Does, and bring closure to families. Joining is fast, secure, and easy.https://dnasolves.com/Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it's entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.htmlColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero ProductionsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

Kathryn "Kate" Miles, bestselling author of "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenadoah Murders" joins "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the recent FBI announcement that the 1996 murder of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans has been solved. With the news that deceased suspect Walter "Leo" Jackson, Sr. has been connected to the murder via DNA, why is the FB being so secretive about how the case was solved?  Why are press conferences being scheduled with no notice?  Why are so many questions going unanswered? Is the FBI covering up for mistakes as we have seen recently in the Colonial Parkway Murders? This Bonus Episode is Part 1 of 2 parts, and originally ran on July 1, 2024.Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customerWaPo: Convicted serial rapist linked to Shenandoah park murders, FBI sayshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/06/20/shenandoah-park-murders-virginia/Newsweek: FBI Solves 1996 Shenandoah Park Murders: Serial Rapist Killed Women Campershttps://www.newsweek.com/shenandoah-national-park-murders-solved-1915864WTVR CBS News:  Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024WAVY TV 10 News:  New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/WTKR News 3: Colonial Parkway Murders podcast records in Yorktown:https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/colonial-parkway-murders-podcast-records-in-yorktownWVEC 13 News Now:  Live Podcast to Discuss Colonial Parkway Murders Monday in Yorktownhttps://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/crime/true-crime/live-podcast-to-discuss-colonial-parkway-murders-monday-yorktown/291-601dd2b9-d9f2-4b41-a3e1-44bce6f9f6c6Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/WTKR News 3https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-casesVirginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway' murders died alone in 2017https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comJoin the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersFollow Othram's DNA Solves: You can help solve a case. Help fund a case or contribute your DNA. Your support helps solve crimes, enable the identification of John & Jane Does, and bring closure to families. Joining is fast, secure, and easy.https://dnasolves.com/Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it's entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.htmlColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero ProductionsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

Former FBI agent Kathy Canning Mello and Lisa Zambetti (co host emeritus!) are joined by Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley of the Mind over Murder podcast to talk about the breaking news in the Shenandoah Murders case in which law enforcement believe they have finally identified a brutal killer's identity in the killing of two young women. In May 1996, Lollie Winans and Julie Williams were murdered at their campsite in the popular Shenandoah National Park in the middle of rural Virginia, not far from a busy tourist resort called Skyland. Many people, including park and resort staff, had seen the happy, friendly couple in the area and were alarmed when they were reported missing. As experienced outdoorswomen, Lollie and Julie knew how to take care of themselves and each other. When their bodies were discovered, despite the evidence that the women had been brutally tortured and killed, law enforcement decided to not alert the public that a murderer could be in the park, and in fact diverted attention away from the crime. Ridiculous theories were floated as to the cause of their deaths such as it was the result of a bear attack or perhaps a murder-suicide. One man was eventually wrongfully accused of their murders (never successfully prosecuted) while other suspects remained at large. Kathy, Lisa, Bill and Kristin discuss the identity of the newly discovered killer, and any possible connection this killer has to the murder of Bill's sister Cathy Thomas and her partner Becki Dowski.To hear even more about this case, you go back and listen to Jim, Laura and Lisa deep dive the Shenandoah murders in Nov 2022, ep 401 when they interviewed Kathryn Miles, the extraordinary journalist who covered Lollie and Julie's lives and horrific deaths in her book “Trailed: One woman's quest to solve the Shenandoah murders”.

Kathryn "Kate" Miles, bestselling author of "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenadoah Murders" joins "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the recent FBI announcement that the 1996 murder of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans has been solved. With the news that deceased suspect Walter "Leo" Jackson, Sr. has been connected to the murder via DNA, why is the FB being so secretive about how the case was solved?  Why are press conferences being scheduled with no notice?  Why are so many questions going unanswered? Is the FBI covering up for mistakes as we have seen recently in the Colonial Parkway Murders? This is Part 2 of 2 parts.Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customerWaPo: Convicted serial rapist linked to Shenandoah park murders, FBI sayshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/06/20/shenandoah-park-murders-virginia/Newsweek: FBI Solves 1996 Shenandoah Park Murders: Serial Rapist Killed Women Campershttps://www.newsweek.com/shenandoah-national-park-murders-solved-1915864WTVR CBS News:  Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024WAVY TV 10 News:  New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/WTKR News 3: Colonial Parkway Murders podcast records in Yorktown:https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/colonial-parkway-murders-podcast-records-in-yorktownWVEC 13 News Now:  Live Podcast to Discuss Colonial Parkway Murders Monday in Yorktownhttps://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/crime/true-crime/live-podcast-to-discuss-colonial-parkway-murders-monday-yorktown/291-601dd2b9-d9f2-4b41-a3e1-44bce6f9f6c6Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/WTKR News 3https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-casesVirginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway' murders died alone in 2017https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comJoin the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersFollow Othram's DNA Solves: You can help solve a case. Help fund a case or contribute your DNA. Your support helps solve crimes, enable the identification of John & Jane Does, and bring closure to families. Joining is fast, secure, and easy.https://dnasolves.com/Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it's entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.htmlColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions

At a presser called at short notice by the FBI on June 20 2024, it was revealed that the man who murdered Lollie and Julie on May 24 1996 in the Shenandoah National Park has been identified as Walter ‘Leo' Jackson Snr, a convicted serial rapist. Incredible news, yes, but many questions remain including: what evidence was tested and/or submitted resulting in the DNA hit? Why did it take so long to identify him? How and why was he missed? How many other women has he harmed and/or killed before and after? Listen as Laura and Kathryn break it all down and then join the conversation on social media and in the Crime Analyst Squad. Kathryn will join Laura for a Ringleaders Happy on August 14 2024 to dive deeper into the case. Come along www.patreon.con/CrimeAnalyst Kathryn Miles is an award-winning investigative journalist, outdoors expert and author of the book Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders.   #LollieWinans #JulieWilliams #Trailed #KathyrnMiles #TheShenandoahMurders #Virginia #FBI #DNA #SAKI #CrimeAnalyst #Expert #Analysis #TrueCrime #Podcast #Crime   Clips https://www.cbs19news.com/clip/15476343/fbi-identifies-suspect-in-1996-shenandoah-national-park-murders Kathryn's Book: https://www.amazon.com/Trailed-Womans-Quest-Shenandoah-Murders/dp/1616209097   JOIN the Crime Analyst Squad: www.patreon.com/CrimeAnalyst   REGISTER For Laura's 2024 Masterclasses: https://shoutout.wix.com/so/0fOy_yFBC?languageTag=en   More Training Info: www.dashriskchecklist.com www.thelaurarichards.com   YouTube, Socials and Website YouTube @crimeanalyst Instagram @crimeanalyst @laurarichards999 Twitter @thecrimeanalyst @laurarichards99 TikTok @crimeanalystpod Website www.crime-analyst.com Leave a Review https://www.crime-analyst.com/reviews/new/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In June of 1996 two women, Julie Williams and Lollie Winans, were found brutally murdered in Shenandoah National Park. Their murderer (or murderers) were never found and the case has remained unsolved, until now. On June 20, 2024 the FBI announced that the assailant has been identified as Walter Leo Jackson Sr. Today we sit down for the second time, with Kathryn Miles, author and investigative journalist who has dedicated years of her life researching this case and uncovering faults in the investigation. While the FBI has closed the case, she unveils in this interview that there are a lot more questions that need to be answered, including the possibility of more victims. This case might be labeled as closed, but in reality, this new information has just opened up a whole new investigation. If you have any information concerning this case, please contact the FBI's Toll-Free tip line at 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324). You may also contact your local FBI office, the nearest American Embassy or Consulate, or you can submit a tip online at  Electronic Tip Form | FBI   We love our National Parks and we know you do too but when you're out there, remember to enjoy the view but watch your back. Please take a moment to rate and subscribe from wherever you're listening to NPAD! Become part of our Outsider family on Patreon  or Apple Subscriptions to gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and more. Follow our socials Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. To share a Trail Tale, suggest a story, access merch, and browse our book recommendations - head over to our website. Thank you so much to our partners, check them out! BetterHelp: National Park After Dark is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off. Smalls: For 50% off your first order, head to Smalls.com/NPAD and use code NPAD. Cremo Bodwash: You can find all the new, decadent scents of Cremo Women's Body Wash at Walgreens, CVS, or CremoCompany.com Naked Wines: To get Naked Wines' 6 bottle for $39.99 offer, head to NakedWines.com/NPAD and use code NPAD for both the code AND password. 

Kathryn "Kate" Miles, bestselling author of "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenadoah Murders" joins "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the recent FBI announcement that the 1996 murder of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans has been solved. With the news that deceased suspect Walter "Leo" Jackson, Sr. has been connected to the murder via DNA, why is the FB being so secretive about how the case was solved?  Why are press conferences being scheduled with no notice?  Why are so many questions going unanswered? Is the FBI covering up for mistakes as we have seen recently in the Colonial Parkway Murders? This is Part 1 of 2 parts.Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customerWaPo: Convicted serial rapist linked to Shenandoah park murders, FBI sayshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/06/20/shenandoah-park-murders-virginia/Newsweek: FBI Solves 1996 Shenandoah Park Murders: Serial Rapist Killed Women Campershttps://www.newsweek.com/shenandoah-national-park-murders-solved-1915864WTVR CBS News:  Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024WAVY TV 10 News:  New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/WTKR News 3: Colonial Parkway Murders podcast records in Yorktown:https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/colonial-parkway-murders-podcast-records-in-yorktownWVEC 13 News Now:  Live Podcast to Discuss Colonial Parkway Murders Monday in Yorktownhttps://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/crime/true-crime/live-podcast-to-discuss-colonial-parkway-murders-monday-yorktown/291-601dd2b9-d9f2-4b41-a3e1-44bce6f9f6c6Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/WTKR News 3https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-casesVirginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway' murders died alone in 2017https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comJoin the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersFollow Othram's DNA Solves: You can help solve a case. Help fund a case or contribute your DNA. Your support helps solve crimes, enable the identification of John & Jane Does, and bring closure to families. Joining is fast, secure, and easy.https://dnasolves.com/Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it's entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.htmlColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions

Kathryn "Kate" Miles, author of the award winning true crime book "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders," talks of the impact of the book on the 1996 murder case of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans, as well as on her own life as an author and outdoorswoman. Published in hardcover and audiobook in 2022, the paperback of "Trailed" has just been released, with a limited television series to follow.   With a suspect Walter "Leo Jackson, Sr. being named in the Williams/Winans case by the FBI and Federal prosecutors on June 20, 2024, Kate will be returning as a guest on more episodes of "Mind Over Murder" to discuss the case.Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders on Goodreadshttps://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/58328366Kathryn Miles Archive in Outside Magazine:https://www.outsideonline.com/byline/kathryn-miles/The Case of the Indian Trader: Billy Malone and the National Park Service Investigation at Hubbell Trading Post on Goodreadshttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11341628-the-case-of-the-indian-traderWTKR News Channel 3: 35 Years Later, Family Without Answers for Colonial Parkway Murdershttps://www.wtkr.com/news/35-years-later-family-without-answers-for-colonial-parkway-murders-caseJoin the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastColonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 15,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comNew Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for AnswersJoin the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersFollow Othram's DNA Solves: You can help solve a case. Help fund a case or contribute your DNA. Your support helps solve crimes, enable the identification of John & Jane Does, and bring closure to families. Joining is fast, secure, and easy.https://dnasolves.com/Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcoxhttps://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.htmlMedium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zanehttps://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it's entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.htmlColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions

In today's flashback, an outtake from Episode 774, my conversation with Kathryn Miles. It first aired on May 25, 2022. Miles is an award-winning journalist and science writer. She received a Bachelor of Arts in Philosophy from Saint Louis University and took both her Master of Arts and Doctorate in English from the University of Delaware. The long-time editor of Hawk & Handsaw, Miles served as professor of environmental studies and writing at Unity College from 2001-2015 and has since taught in several graduate schools and low residency-MFA programs. Miles is the author of five books: Adventures with Ari, All Standing, Superstorm, Quakeland, and Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders. Her essays and articles have appeared in publications including Audubon, Best American Essays, The Boston Globe, Down East, Ecotone, History, National Geographic, The New York Times, Outside, Pacific Standard, Politico, Popular Mechanics, and Time. She currently serves as a scholar-in-residence for the Maine Humanities Council, a visiting professor at Colby College, and a member of the Eastern Oregon University MFA faculty. She is also a private consultant available for emerging and established writers. Kathryn lives in Portland, Maine. *** Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly literary podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, etc. Subscribe to Brad Listi's email newsletter. Support the show on Patreon Merch @otherppl Instagram  TikTok Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a proud affiliate partner of Bookshop, working to support local, independent bookstores. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Kathryn "Kate" Miles, author of the award winning true crime book "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders," talks of the impact of the book on the 1996 murder case of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans, as well as on her own life as an author and outdoorswoman. Published in hardcover and audiobook in 2022, the paperback of "Trailed" has just been released, with a limited television series to follow.Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders on Goodreadshttps://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/58328366Serial Killer Richard Marc Evonitz:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_EvonitzKathryn Miles Archive in Outside Magazine:https://www.outsideonline.com/byline/kathryn-miles/The Case of the Indian Trader: Billy Malone and the National Park Service Investigation at Hubbell Trading Post on Goodreadshttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11341628-the-case-of-the-indian-traderWTKR News Channel 3: 35 Years Later, Family Without Answers for Colonial Parkway Murdershttps://www.wtkr.com/news/35-years-later-family-without-answers-for-colonial-parkway-murders-caseJoin the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastColonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 15,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comNew Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for AnswersJoin the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersFollow Othram's DNA Solves: You can help solve a case. Help fund a case or contribute your DNA. Your support helps solve crimes, enable the identification of John & Jane Does, and bring closure to families. Joining is fast, secure, and easy.https://dnasolves.com/Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcoxhttps://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.htmlMedium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zanehttps://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it's entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.htmlColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero ProductionsThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4847179/advertisement

Kathryn "Kate" Miles, author of the award winning true crime book "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders," talks of the impact of the book on the 1996 murder case of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans, as well as on her own life as an author and outdoorswoman. Published in hardcover and audiobook in 2022, the paperback of "Trailed" has just been released, with a limited television series to follow. Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders on Goodreadshttps://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/58328366Serial Killer Richard Marc Evonitz:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_EvonitzKathryn Miles Archive in Outside Magazine:https://www.outsideonline.com/byline/kathryn-miles/The Case of the Indian Trader: Billy Malone and the National Park Service Investigation at Hubbell Trading Post on Goodreadshttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11341628-the-case-of-the-indian-traderWTKR News Channel 3: 35 Years Later, Family Without Answers for Colonial Parkway Murdershttps://www.wtkr.com/news/35-years-later-family-without-answers-for-colonial-parkway-murders-caseJoin the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastColonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 15,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comNew Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for AnswersJoin the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersFollow Othram's DNA Solves: You can help solve a case. Help fund a case or contribute your DNA. Your support helps solve crimes, enable the identification of John & Jane Does, and bring closure to families. Joining is fast, secure, and easy.https://dnasolves.com/Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcoxhttps://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.htmlMedium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zanehttps://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it's entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.htmlColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero ProductionsThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4847179/advertisement

Recorded on March 22, 2023 Book talk starts at 29:20 Come join us knitting or crocheting your projects with CABLES! That's right, cables.  Come on over to the Cables KAL Chatter Thread to check out the rules and chat about your plans.  Dates are now until 5/15/23.   Virtual Knitting Group via Zoom EVENTS Tracie and Barb will be at: The Northern California Knitting Retreat (NoCKRs) - April 27-30, 2023 at the St Francis Retreat Center in San Juan Bautista, California.  We have 1 open spot - message Tracie at 2knitlitchicks@gmail.com for info and the registration form. Fiber Frolic - Saturday, May 27, 2023, 10 am – 4 pm at Soul Food Farm in Vacaville, CA The TKGA Retreat 2023 - November 2-5, 2023 at the Hilton Charlotte University Place Hotel in Charlotte, North Carolina   KNITTING Tracie finished: 2 Knitted Knockers in Cascade Ultra Pima Vanilla socks in Western Sky Knits Merino 17 Light held double 10 knitted headbands, all knit from stash - patterns used: Smidge Headband by Angela Tennant Lova by Chicory Sticks Fiana by Connie Stults Godmother Headband by Amanda Rosa Star Stitch Headband by Jessica Flowers and various patterns from 150 Knitted Trims by Lesley Stanfield   Barb finished: Hermione's Everyday Socks by Erica Leuder using Canon Hand Dyes sock set Blushing Braids Beanie by Amy Kate Sutherland, using Valley Yarns Northampton 4 Knockers   Tracie cast on: Donner by Elizabeth Doherty in Cloudborn Fibers Pima Cotton DK in Spring Tiny Dancer top by Laura Dean in Shaggy Bear Farms SW Merino & Tussah Silk Fingering for Lexi   And continues to work on: Zephyr Mark II by Celia Cahill in Laneras Barefoot in Coral Vanilla socks in Emma's Yarn Super Silky in Hot Tamale   Barb is working on: Low-key Cowl by Elizabeth Smith, using Cascade 220 in the green colorway (very old stash) Knitted Knockers   And has cast on: WYS Vanilla Socks, using West Yorkshire Spinners Signature 4-Ply Self Striping in the Peacock colorway Ilha pullover by Orlane Sucche, using Greenwood Fiber Indulgence (merino, cashmere and silk). Barley Hat by Tin Can Knits using worsted weight bear yarn   She frogged: Winters Beach by Andrea Mowry, using Madelinetosh Tosh DK in the Tart colorway    BOOKS Tracie read: The Decision to Kill: A True Crime Story of a Teenage Killer and the Mother Who Loved Him by Leslie Ghiglieri - 3 stars Edge of Normal by Carla Norton - 4 stars (but 1 star for narration!) The Dentist by Tim Sullivan - 4.5 stars The Cyclist by Tim Sullivan - 4 stars A Girl Returned by Ann Goldstein - 4.5 stars Girls Who Lie by Eva Björg Ægisdóttir - 4 stars   Tracie and Barb highly recommend: Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders by Kathryn Miles - 5 stars   Barb read: Remarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van Pelt - 3.5 stars Other Parents by Sarah Stovell - 4 stars A Slow Fire Burning by Paula Hawkins - 4 stars The Perfect Son by Freida McFadden - 4 stars   Tracie recommends AMC+ app/channel - subscribe through Amazon Prime or go to amcplus.com

Laura continues her conversation with award winning investigative journalist, author and outdoors expert Kathryn Miles about her re-investigation into the double murder of Lollie Winans and Julie Williams, which is detailed in her book Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders. Laura and Kathryn discuss Kara Robinson's abduction and rape by predatory stalker, Richard Marc Evonitz. Evonitz abducted Kara in the blink of an eye, in broad daylight, and no-one knew it had even happened.   Evonitz was a prolific serial perpetrator who targeted, stalked, abducted, and raped women. Laura believes Kara's abduction seemed much more an in the moment, opportunistic attack. Kara managed to escape due to her resilience and quick thinking. Laura and Kathryn break down Evonitz's behaviour and the timeline and discuss whether he murdered Lollie and Julie as well as other abductions and murders that might be linked including Alicia Showalter Reynolds, Anne McDaniel, Sofia Silva, Kristin and Kati Lisk and the double murder of Cathy Thomas and Becky Dowski.   Content warning: Laura and Kathryn discuss and compare the behaviour of the perpetrator at the crime scenes with what is known about Evonitz's behaviour. This is not an easy listen. Listener discretion is advised. #LollieWinans #JulieWilliams #Trailed #KathyrnMiles #KaraRobinson #AliciaShowalterReynolds #AnneMcDaniel #SofiaSilva #KristinLisk #KatiLisk #CathyThomas #BeckyDowski #SerialKiller #Stalker #RichardEvonitz #CoerciveControl #DASH #DomesticAbuse #TheShenandoahMurders #Virginia #LanguageMatters #CrimeAnalyst #Expert #Analysis #TrueCrime #Podcast #Crime Clips https://www.wusa9.com/article/features/producers-picks/dna-in-fbi-evidence-locker-might-solve-shenandoah-national-park-murders-julie-williams-lollie-winans/65-d4ecdc98-ed85-4626-b242-c35f5d6d938e   Kathryn's Book https://www.amazon.com/Trailed-Womans-Quest-Shenandoah-Murders/dp/1616209097   Information about the DASH, Coercive Control and Train the Trainer Masterclasses with Laura https://shoutout.wix.com/so/eeOI-OpnS?languageTag=en   Subscribe to Crime Analyst You Tube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCksfRSwfwFqUCjcxKYju6_Q   Crime Analyst Merch https://crime-analyst.myshopify.com/   Leave a Review Support Laura's work and Crime Analyst by leaving a 5-star review here: https://www.crime-analyst.com/reviews/new/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Laura continues her interview with award winning investigative journalist, author and outdoors expert Kathryn Miles about her re-investigation into the double murder of Lollie Winans and Julie Williams, which is detailed in her book Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders. Laura and Kathryn discuss the investigation, including the delay processing the crime scene, key forensics that were destroyed and what remains as well as other potential cases that might be linked including Alicia Showalter Reynolds, Anne McDaniel, Sofia Silva, Kristin and Kati Lisk, Thelma Scroggins and the double murder of Cathy Thomas and Becky Dowski.   Content warning: Laura and Kathryn discuss the crime scenes in graphic detail as it holds a mirror up to the killer. Listener discretion is advised.   N.B. this series was recorded before serial rapist and former Metropolitan police officer David Carrick was given 36 life sentences. Carrick eventually pleaded guilty to 49 charges against 12 women - some of those covered multiple incidents and comprised 85 offences, including 48 rapes.  #LollieWinans #JulieWilliams #Trailed #KathyrnMiles #Misogyny #WomenMatter #TheShenandoahMurders #Virginia #VictimBlaming #LanguageMatters #CrimeAnalyst #Expert #Analysis #TrueCrime #Podcast #Crime Clips https://www.wusa9.com/article/features/producers-picks/dna-in-fbi-evidence-locker-might-solve-shenandoah-national-park-murders-julie-williams-lollie-winans/65-d4ecdc98-ed85-4626-b242-c35f5d6d938e   Kathryn's Book https://www.amazon.com/Trailed-Womans-Quest-Shenandoah-Murders/dp/1616209097   Information about the DASH, Coercive Control and Train the Trainer Masterclasses with Laura https://shoutout.wix.com/so/eeOI-OpnS?languageTag=en   Subscribe to Crime Analyst You Tube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCksfRSwfwFqUCjcxKYju6_Q   Crime Analyst Merch https://crime-analyst.myshopify.com/   Leave a Review Support Laura's work and Crime Analyst by leaving a 5-star review here: https://www.crime-analyst.com/reviews/new/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the Sunday Book Review, I consider books that would interest the compliance professional, the business executive or anyone who might be curious. It could be books about business, compliance, history, leadership, current events or anything else that might interest me. In today's edition of the Sunday Book Review, we consider some of the top ethics books which every compliance professional should read in 2023: ·      Slenderman: Online Obsession, Mental Illness, and the Violent Crime of Two Midwestern Girls by Kathleen Hale  ·       Tell Me Everything: The Story of a Private Investigation by Erika Krouse ·        Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders by Kathryn Miles  ·       American Demon: Eliot Ness and the Hunt for America's Jack the Ripper by Daniel Stashower  Resources Complete List of Mystery Writers of America 2023 Edgar Nominees in MysteryTribune.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Laura interviews award winning investigative journalist, author, and outdoor expert Kathryn Miles about her re-investigation into the double murder of Lollie Winans and Julie Williams, which is detailed in her book Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders. In May 1996, two skilled backcountry leaders, Lollie Winans and Julie Williams, entered Virginia's Shenandoah National Park for a week-long backcountry camping trip. The free-spirited and remarkable young couple had met and fallen in love the previous summer while working at a world-renowned outdoor program for women.    They decided to pitch their tent in a beautiful and remote location close to the river. Lollie and Julie were brutally murdered, and their bodies were discovered in their sleeping bags. Their tent had been slashed open and there was some unusual crime scene behaviour as well as paraphernalia left at the crime scene. Their beloved dog, Taj, was also missing.   Trigger warning: Laura and Kathryn discuss the crime scene in graphic detail as it holds a mirror up to the killer. Listener discretion is advised. #LollieWinans #JulieWilliams #Trailed #KathyrnMiles #Misogyny #WomenMatter #TheShenandoahMurders #Virginia #VictimBlaming #LanguageMatters #CrimeAnalyst #Expert #Analysis #TrueCrime #Podcast #Crime Clips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gCKxiE26_o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G930dH0VbL8   Kathryn's Book https://www.amazon.com/Trailed-Womans-Quest-Shenandoah-Murders/dp/1616209097   Information about the DASH, Coercive Control and Train the Trainer Masterclasses with Laura https://shoutout.wix.com/so/eeOI-OpnS?languageTag=en   Crime Analyst You Tube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCksfRSwfwFqUCjcxKYju6_Q   Crime Analyst Merch https://crime-analyst.myshopify.com/   Leave a Review If you want to support my work and Crime Analyst and if you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review here: https://www.crime-analyst.com/reviews/new/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In today's episode, we're about to discuss the technically unsolved double murder of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans from 1996– more commonly known as the Shenandoah Murders. The couple was enjoying a romantic getaway when their lives were tragically cut short… Park Rangers found something Horrifying in the Shenandoah National Park. Download Swamp Dweller Scary Stories: Itunes: https://apple.co/2L7znZp Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2WUFDG8 Check out the Swamp Dweller Merch store! http://bit.ly/32u2eh5 The Dark Swamp: Horror Stories (Episode 708)

Kathryn Miles, author of "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders" joins co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book. Who killed Julie Williams and Lollie Winans in 1996? Why have the FBI and the National Park Service moved so slowly in this investigation? Is this a hate crime? Is there still untested evidence? Are the Shenandoah Murders related to the Colonial Parkway Murders? This is part 2 of 2 episodes with Kate.Goodreads Kathryn Miles "Trailed" Book:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58328366-trailedOrion: Who's Safe in the Woods? An Interview with Kathryn Miles, author of Trailed:https://orionmagazine.org/article/julie-williams-lollie-winans-murder-appalachian-trail-book/Boston Globe: Tracking a killer and a cold case in Kathryn Miles's ‘Trailed'https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/04/28/arts/tracking-killer-cold-case/?event=event12Othram DNA Solves: You can help solve a case. Help fund a case or contribute your DNA. Your support helps solve crimes, enable the identification of John & Jane Does, and bring closure to families. Joining is fast, secure, and easy.https://dnasolves.com/Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastColonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 14,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comNew Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcoxhttps://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.htmlNew Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zanehttps://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it's entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.htmlColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/New Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcoxhttps://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.htmlNew Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zanehttps://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it's entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.htmlColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!https://lovethepodcast.com/jpHq3qWe launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions

Kathryn Miles, author of "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders" joins co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book. Who killed Julie Williams and Lollie Winans in 1996? Why have the FBI and the National Park Service moved so slowly in this investigation? Is this a hate crime? Is there still untested evidence? Are the Shenandoah Murders related to the Colonial Parkway Murders? This is part 1 of 2 episodes with Kate.Goodreads Kathryn Miles "Trailed" Book:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58328366-trailedOrion: Who's Safe in the Woods? An Interview with Kathryn Miles, author of Trailed:https://orionmagazine.org/article/julie-williams-lollie-winans-murder-appalachian-trail-book/Boston Globe: Tracking a killer and a cold case in Kathryn Miles's ‘Trailed'https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/04/28/arts/tracking-killer-cold-case/?event=event12Othram DNA Solves: You can help solve a case. Help fund a case or contribute your DNA. Your support helps solve crimes, enable the identification of John & Jane Does, and bring closure to families. Joining is fast, secure, and easy.https://dnasolves.com/Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastColonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 14,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comNew Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcoxhttps://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.htmlNew Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zanehttps://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. 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We continue our conversation with Kathryn Miles about her book “Trailed: One woman's quest to solve the Shenandoah murders” about the murders of Lollie Winans and Julie Williams in Shenandoah National Park in May of 1996. We start by talking about the FBI's response to the case and how they profiled the possible murderer. We discuss Darrell David Rice who was law enforcement's prime suspect in the case, the lengths they went to find evidence connecting him and if Kathryn agrees based on her research that he should have been the focus at all. #LollieWinans #JulieWilliams #Trailed #KathrynMiles #ShenandoahValley #MurderinNationalParks #WomenAreTargets #Femicide #FBI #FindtheMurderer *************** SUPPORT OUR OTHER SHOWS ***************CRIME ANALYST PODCAST - You're interested in real crime? Tick You're interested in good storytelling? TickYou want content that's respectful to the victims and honours them TickAnd you want more insight and in-depth analysis about “the who” “the what” “the where” “the when” “the how” and “the why”? TickAnd you want to know how you can prevent it? TickCongratulations! You've found your next podcast!Ride shotgun with me, Laura Richards world renowned and award-winning Criminal Behavioural Analyst, former New Scotland Yard every week as we profile behaviour and identify the red flags to prevent murders in slow motion.Come join me in the intelligence cell as we deconstruct and analyse real cases.www.crime-analyst.comKILLER CASTING PODCAST - Join Lisa and her guests, legendary casting director Carla Hool and multi-hyphenate actress/producer/casting director Elaine del Valle as they break down why authenticity in representation on screen is so important — not just to the Latin and Hispanic communities, but to ALL communities. We analyze comedian Bill Maher's now famous rant about “woke” casting and his criticism of actor John Leguizamo daring to voice his opinion on the casting of James Franco as Fidel Castro in the indie film “Alina of Cuba”.www.killercastingpod.com BEST CASE WORST CASEBe sure and check out Jim's podcast Best Case/Worst Case that he does along with former Federal Prosecutor Francey Hakes. Join them as they go behind police lines with unparalleled access to law enforcement officers, looking back at their most memorable cases – for better or for worse. Subscribe now!https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/best-case-worst-case/id1240002929See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In May 1996, Lollie Winans and Julie Williams were murdered at their campsite in the popular Shenandoah National Park in the middle of rural Virginia, not far from a busy tourist resort called Skyland. Many people, including park and resort staff, had seen the happy, friendly couple in the area and were alarmed when they were reported missing. As experienced outdoorswomen, Lollie and Julie knew how to take care of themselves and each other. When their bodies were discovered, despite evidence that the women had been brutally tortured and killed, law enforcement decided not alert the public that a murderer could be in the park, and in fact diverted attention away from the crime. This and other shocking facts about the case are revealed in Kathryn Miles new book “Trailed: One woman's quest to solve the Shenandoah murders”. We interview Kathryn about new details that have emerged about possible suspects. Jim and Laura discuss the victimology of Lollie and Julie, two extraordinary women whose families are still left searching for answers about their deaths. #LollieWinans #JulieWilliams #Trailed #KathrynMiles #ShenandoahValley #MurderinNationalParks #WomenAreTargets #Femicide *************** SUPPORT OUR OTHER SHOWS ***************CRIME ANALYST PODCAST - You're interested in real crime? Tick You're interested in good storytelling? TickYou want content that's respectful to the victims and honours them TickAnd you want more insight and in-depth analysis about “the who” “the what” “the where” “the when” “the how” and “the why”? TickAnd you want to know how you can prevent it? TickCongratulations! You've found your next podcast!Ride shotgun with me, Laura Richards world renowned and award-winning Criminal Behavioural Analyst, former New Scotland Yard every week as we profile behaviour and identify the red flags to prevent murders in slow motion.Come join me in the intelligence cell as we deconstruct and analyse real cases.www.crime-analyst.comKILLER CASTING PODCAST - Join Lisa and her guests, legendary casting director Carla Hool and multi-hyphenate actress/producer/casting director Elaine del Valle as they break down why authenticity in representation on screen is so important — not just to the Latin and Hispanic communities, but to ALL communities. We analyze comedian Bill Maher's now famous rant about “woke” casting and his criticism of actor John Leguizamo daring to voice his opinion on the casting of James Franco as Fidel Castro in the indie film “Alina of Cuba”.www.killercastingpod.com BEST CASE WORST CASEBe sure and check out Jim's podcast Best Case/Worst Case that he does along with former Federal Prosecutor Francey Hakes. Join them as they go behind police lines with unparalleled access to law enforcement officers, looking back at their most memorable cases – for better or for worse. Subscribe now!https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/best-case-worst-case/id1240002929See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

As Appalachian Mysteria finished covering the story of Julie and Lollie, author Kathryn Miles completed her own book about the murders. In this episode, Kathryn uses her total access to Dierdre Enright's evidence to bring to light new information — including how we've been wrong about a key piece of evidence. Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders — Purchase Kathryn's book here.  Interviewees: Kathryn Miles — Kathryn Miles is an award-winning journalist and science writer. She received a Bachelor of Arts in Philosophy from Saint Louis University and took both her Master of Arts and Doctorate in English from the University of Delaware. Miles is the author of five books: Adventures with Ari, All Standing, Superstorm, Quakeland, and Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders. Her essays and articles have appeared in publications including Audubon, Best American Essays, The Boston Globe, Down East, Ecotone, History, The New York Times, Outside, Pacific Standard, Politico, Popular Mechanics, and Time.

In 1996 two women who were experienced outdoor leaders didn't return from a week's remote camping in Virginia. Park rangers found them brutally murdered in their sleeping bags. Journalist and outdoor expert Kathryn Miles discovered many problems with the investigation. “All About Books” has a review of her book “Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders”

As I wrote a few months ago, with regard to true crime books, "All stories are worth telling well, but especially the difficult ones, when we need the writer's assurance as we walk down the dark passage."As someone who occasionally takes on such stories, I'm interested in how and why other true crime writers approach the work. My lead-off interview is with Kathryn Miles, author of "TRAILED: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders," about the horrific unsolved 1996 murders of two young women with Shenandoah National Park.Miles does what the best true crime writers do. She takes on the awesome responsibility of explaining murder, with compassion and clear-eyes and deeply empathetic reporting.As she writes in TRAILED, "Maybe, just maybe, when two selfless, joyful, beautiful humans die in a place, what's left behind is not the agony of their deaths, but the brilliance of their lives."Miles is the author of Superstorm: Nine Days Inside Hurricane Sandy and Quakeland: On the Road to America's Next Devastating Earthquake, among other books. More about Miles at kathrynmiles.net - N.R.Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders, by Kathryn Miles. Shot in the Heart, by Mikal GilmoreLost Girls, by Robert KolkerBlood Will Out, by Walter KirnThe Adversary, by Emmanuel CarrereColumbine, by Dave CullenDown City, by Leah CarrollI'll Be Gone in the Dark, by Michelle McNamaraSay Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern IrelandThe Journalist and the Murderer, by Janet MalcomHelter Skelter, by Vincent BugliosiIn Cold Blood, by Truman CapoteCrossed Over, by Beverly LowryUnder the Banner of Heaven, by Jon Krakauer This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com/subscribe

"What Man Can Do to Man: 13 True Crime Books That Get It Right," by Nancy Rommelmann Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders, by Kathryn Miles. More about Miles at kathrynmiles.netShot in the Heart, by Mikal GilmoreLost Girls, by Robert KolkerBlood Will Out, by Walter KirnThe Adversary, by Emmanuel CarrereColumbine, by Dave CullenDown City, by Leah CarrollI'll Be Gone in the Dark, by Michelle McNamaraSay Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern IrelandThe Journalist and the Murderer, by Janet MalcomHelter Skelter, by Vincent BugliosiIn Cold Blood, by Truman CapoteCrossed Over, by Beverly LowryUnder the Banner of Heaven, by Jon Krakauer

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by RTIC, we are joined by Kathryn Miles. Kathryn is an award-winning journalist, science writer, and the author of five books, most recently "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders", which is the focus of today's chat.  We go deep on everything to do with this case, including the gruesome details of the murders, why this was not a random act of violence, why this case has yet to be solved, who Kathryn believes to be the perpetrator, and much more. A warning to listeners, this one goes into some pretty horrific details on the subjects of sexual assault and murder. If either of these subjects are especially triggering to you, we encourage you to skip ahead to the segments for this one.  We then pivot from rape and murder to the triple crown of ice cream toppings.  Typical backpacker radio stuff. 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[divider] Interview with Kathryn Miles Kathryn Miles Website Kathryn's Instagram Buy Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders or at your local bookstore Time stamps & Questions 00:05:23 - QOTD: How was your day today?  00:11:37 - Introducing Kathryn Miles  00:12:12 - What's your hiking background?  00:12:53 - Anything else you want to add about the hiker designations?  00:13:52 - Can you tell us about your journalism career?  00:15:23 - Did you always know ‘Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders' was going to become a book?  00:17:01 - Can you give an overview of the case? 00:19:11 - What were the challenges with writing this?  00:21:36 - Do you eventually develop thicker skin towards these stories?  00:22:45 - Going into this project, were you afraid of the side effects others experienced after digging into similar stories?  00:24:08 - Did you have a background or past interest in true crime?  00:25:44 - When you're researching something like this, where do you start?  00:27:40 - How do you focus on the killer when you don't know the killer?  00:29:44 - Amateur sleuthing  00:30:32 - Do you worry about bringing a new potential killer into the story?  00:32:45 - Did you lose your love for the outdoors and hiking after writing the book?  00:35:12 - Did you end up viewing the photos? 00:36:40 - Could you share some more details around this being a premeditated murder?  00:39:58 - What will readers learn through the book that they wouldn't through the police reports? 00:42:01 - What were some of the most interesting things you found in the reports?  00:47:37 - Can you speak to the general safety of the trails?  00:50:37 - Do you think there's anything nefarious with that?  00:53:15 - Are park rangers part of a union?  00:54:01 - Tell us more about the culture clash in the involved parties  00:55:59 - Were there any thru-hiking suspects?  00:56:48 - Did you ever find out why he had a bloody knife?  00:58:18 - Can you tell us more about the second character?  01:00:24 - What were the similarities between the two murders?  01:01:01 - Was there a purpose to wrapping a body in a sleeping bag?  01:02:53 - How do they determine who's vibrator it was?  01:03:52 - What did he do to modify it?  01:05:54 - Is there any scenario in which the murderer wants to be caught?  01:08:59 - What's your personal opinion on who the killer is?  01:10:10 - What is Darrell Rice doing these days?  01:11:11 - Did you try to reach out to Darrell Rice?  01:12:12 - Is he still missing?  01:13:30 - What convinced them it was Darrell Rice?  01:16:28 - What do you think it will take for the FBI to pick up this case again?  01:16:53 - Where should phone calls and letters be sent?  01:17:39 - What are the odds that the person who did it, isn't either of the two focused on in the book?  01:18:45 - How do you see the Shenandoah murders fitting into a culture of misogyny?  01:20:34 - Could you tell us more about your research into women being excluded from the outdoors?  01:22:18 - How do you instill confidence into those still out hiking near the Shenandoah?  01:24:26 - How was it hiking the AT during that time?  01:25:14 - How did it change the vibe of the trail?  01:26:49 - Do you think it would have impacted the outcome if the women were in a more public camping area?  01:28:21 - Are there other documented crimes specifically against non-binary hikers on trail?  01:30:22 - Is there any research on non-binary hiker crimes?  01:32:01 - Where should people get your book?  01:32:30 - Any projects in the pipeline we should know about?  01:33:37 - Wrap Up  SEGMENTS Surprise Mail  Audience Mail Bag  Trek Propaganda  [Book Review] Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders by Penina Satlow  Triple Crown Q&A Segment  [divider] Check out our sound guy @Paulybooyshallcross. 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Author Kathryn Miles investigates how a serial killer stalked women in the Shenandoah National Park in Virginia. Miles uncovers new evidence which suggests that an innocent man is under suspicion, while a suspected serial killer escapes the law. Written, researched, and hosted by Kate Winkler Dawson/producer Alexis Amorosi/mixer Ryo Baum/sound designer Andrew Eapen/composer Curtis Heath/web designer Ilsa Brink Buy my books: katewinklerdawson.com  If you have suggestions for historical crimes that could use some attention, email me: info@tenfoldmorewicked.com  Follow me on social: @tenfoldmore (Twitter) / @tenfoldmorewicked (Facebook and Instagram)    2022 All Rights ReservedSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Julie Williams and Lollie Winans were well versed in hiking, camping and wilderness trips. On May 19, 1996 they arrived at Shenadoah National Park with a plan to hike and camp along portions of the Appalachian Trail. Their permit intinerary had them scheduled to leave the park on May 27, 1996. Ony May 31st, Park Rangers were alerted by Julie's father, that the women had not yet returned home and upon their initial investigation, Park Rangers found Julie's car remained where they had parked it back on May 22nd. By all accounts, it appeared the women ever made it out of the park. By June 1st, an official search was underway. This episode was inspired and driven by the research provided in the book Trailed: One Women's Quest To Solve the Shenandoah Murders by Kathryn Miles, where look at just the tip of the ice berg of this case, and all that this amazing book contains.References & Resources:LINK TO PURCHASE: TRAILED: ONE WOMEN'S QUEST TO SOLVE THE SHENANDOAH MURDERS BY KATHRYN MILES:https://www.workman.com/products/trailed/hardbackhttps://www.oxygen.com/videos/innocence-project-represents-man-they-believe-was-wrongly-accused-of-shenandoah-murders#:~:text=Darrell%20Rice%20was%20initially%20indicted%20for%20the%20murders,back%20against%20Rice%20again%2C%20according%20to%20Kathryn%20Miles.https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2004/02/26/charges-dismissed-in-shenandoah-park-slayings/962f304e-1111-484b-ad9c-46cbad2362da/https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/laura-winanshttps://appalachiantrailhistory.org/exhibits/show/doublemurderinsnp/theoriginalsuspecthttps://www.lcbp.org/https://www.nps.gov/shen/index.htmhttps://appalachiantrail.org/explore/hike-the-a-t/interactive-map/

On this edition of Parallax Views, journalist Kathyrn Miles joins the show to discuss her new true crime book Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders. In the spring of May 1996, Julianne “Julie” Williams and Laura “Lollie” Winans went into Shenandoah National Park, part of the Appalachian trail. They were two bright young women in college with a future ahead of them. That future, however, was stolen as both Lollie and Julie were murdered in the woods of Shenandoah Nation Park. Their murder became nationwide news. So much so in fact that when George W. Bush became President of the United States, the Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales of announced that they had found a suspect and that the murder was a hate crime. You see, Lollie and Julie had been in a romantic relationship. As such, their murder could've been a hate crime. The culprit? A man by the name of Darrell David Rice. However, not all is as it seems. Kathyrn Miles takes us through her investigation of the Shenandoah murders explaining the missteps and even, in some cases, malfeasance by the FBI, National Park Service, and the Department of Justice. In doing show she cast doubt on Rice as the perpetrator (note: Rice has not been convicted, even to this day) and offers another suspect. But this isn't just the story of the investigation of the murders. It's also an exploration of what it's like to be a woman, LGBTQ+, or other marginalized identity exploring the frontier of the Appalachian trail and the ways in which that trail is experienced differently by men and women. We discuss all that and more on this edition of Parallax Views.

In May of 1996, Lollie Winans and Julie Williams headed to Shenandoah National Park on a backpacking trip. They were two avid outdoor women who were in love and celebrating their relationship, new jobs, and moving in together. Several days into their trip they went missing and eventually park rangers found that they had been brutally murdered. To this day the case has still not been solved and investigations have slowed down, until now.  In this episode we speak to investigative journalist Kathryn Miles. Kathryn recently published her newest book, Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders. She spent the past several years personally investigating this case discovering police cover ups, negligence in their investigations, lost records, and evidence that was never properly investigated. Today, she tells us about the evidence she has found, the likelihood of this cold case being solved, and how this horrific event has rocked the outdoor community.  Book Recommendation : Trailed. One Women's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders. We love our National Parks and we know you do too but when you're out there, remember to enjoy the view but watch your back. Please take a moment to rate and subscribe from wherever you're listening to NPAD! Become part of our Outsider family on Patreon to gain access to ad-free episode, bonus content and more. Follow our socials Instagram, Facebook , and Twitter. To share a Trail Tale, suggest a story, access merch and browse our book recommendations - head over to our website. Thank you so much to our partners, check them out! Firstleaf: Get your first 6 bottles for $29.95 plus free shipping with our link Away: Start your 100-day free trial by using our link Prose: 15% off your first hair care order by using our link AirlyFoods: Use our link and code NPAD to get 25% off

Raven speaks with award winning journalist, science writer, and outdoors expert Kathryn Miles about her new book Trailed: One Woman's Journey to Solve the Shenandoah Murders. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thesirenspodcast/message

This week, I was lucky to have author Kathryn Miles on the show. She has written a great new true crime book; Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders. We have a wide ranging conversation about law enforcement, the keys to this case, and where do thing stands now? If you enjoy a guest who is well researched then this is a must listen. In May 1996, two skilled backcountry leaders, Lollie Winans and Julie Williams, entered Virginia's Shenandoah National Park for a week-long backcountry camping trip. The free-spirited and remarkable young couple had met and fallen in love the previous summer while working at a world-renowned outdoor program for women. During their final days in the park, they descended the narrow remnants of a trail and pitched their tent in a hidden spot. After the pair didn't return home as planned, park rangers found a scene of horror at their campsite, their tent slashed open, their beloved dog missing, and both women dead in their sleeping bags. The unsolved murders of Winans and Williams continue to haunt all who had encountered them or knew their story. - Workman Publishing Kathryn Miles is represented by the Strothman Literary Agency. Follow her: Twitter: Kathryn_Miles Facebook: TrailedTheBook Instagram: Kathryn_miles1 Sources: https://www.kathrynmiles.net https://www.outsideonline.com/culture/books-media/shenandoah-murders-trailed-kathryn-miles-queer-women-outdoors/ https://www.strothmanagency.com/trailed-one-womans-quest-to-solve-the-shenandoah-murders/ Purchase Trailed Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 1996, two women were brutally murdered in a remote part of the Shenandoah National Forest and the case remains unsolved almost three decades later. On our season 2 finale episode, we are again joined by Kathryn Miles, author of Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders. We talk about the current main suspect and the evidence the police have in their case against him and also discuss the possibility of alternatives in solving this decades old cold case. If you have information to share, please contact your local FBI office, FBI Richmond at (804) 261-1044 or send tips to https://tips.fbi.gov/. Assist law enforcement by uploading your DNA results to GEDMatch. Check out The Joyful Heart Foundation, an organization dedicated to ending the rape kit backlog. Special thank you to our sponsors for this episode: Athletic Greens - Get a FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase. Treehouse - Get 50% off your first month! Sources we used for this episode: Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders by Kathryn Miles https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2002/04/14/troubled-man-was-mending-family-says/2a621869-1999-4d40-8c28-f34fd7055bb8/ https://appalachiantrailhistory.org/exhibits/show/doublemurderinsnp/theoriginalsuspect https://www.justice.gov/archive/ag/speeches/2002/041002newsconferenceindictment.htm https://www.wusa9.com/article/features/producers-picks/dna-in-fbi-evidence-locker-might-solve-shenandoah-national-park-murders-julie-williams-lollie-winans/65-d4ecdc98-ed85-4626-b242-c35f5d6d938e https://theovereducatedhousewife.home.blog/2021/10/06/remembering-the-case-of-marc-evonitz/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2004/02/26/charges-dismissed-in-shenandoah-park-slayings/962f304e-1111-484b-ad9c-46cbad2362da/ https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/richmond/news/press-releases/shenandoah-national-park-murders-25-years-later

Kathryn Miles, author of "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders" joins co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book. Who killed Julie Williams and Lollie Winans in 1996? Why have FBI and the National Park Service moved so slowly in this investigation? Is there still untested evidence? What will it take to get the FBI and National Park Service moving in this investigation? This is part 2.Goodreads Kathryn Miles "Trailed" Book:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58328366-trailedOrion: Who's Safe in the Woods? An Interview with Kathryn Miles, author of Trailed:https://orionmagazine.org/article/julie-williams-lollie-winans-murder-appalachian-trail-book/Boston Globe: Tracking a killer and a cold case in Kathryn Miles's ‘Trailed'https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/04/28/arts/tracking-killer-cold-case/?event=event12Othram DNA Solves: You can help solve a case. Help fund a case or contribute your DNA. Your support helps solve crimes, enable the identification of John & Jane Does, and bring closure to families. Joining is fast, secure, and easy.https://dnasolves.com/Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastColonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 14,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comNew Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcoxhttps://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.htmlNew Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zanehttps://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it's entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.htmlColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/New Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcoxhttps://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.htmlNew Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zanehttps://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it's entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.htmlColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!https://lovethepodcast.com/jpHq3qWe launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions

In 1996, two women were brutally murdered in a remote part of the Shenandoah National Forest and the case remains unsolved almost three decades later. Today, we are joined by Kathryn Miles, author of Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders. In part one, Brittany will take us into the depth of the life of Lollie and Julie, and how their lives were brutally taken from them. Special thank you to our sponsors for this episode: Athletic Greens - Get a FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase. Treehouse - Get 50% off your first month! Sources we used for this episode: Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders by Kathryn Miles https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/sodomy-laws-by-state

Kathryn Miles, author of "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders" joins co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book. Who killed Julie Williams and Lollie Winans in 1996? Why have the FBI and the National Park Service moved so slowly in this investigation? Is this a hate crime? Is there still untested evidence? Ate the Shenandoah Murders related to the Colonial Parkway Murders? Goodreads Kathryn Miles "Trailed" Book:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58328366-trailedOrion: Who's Safe in the Woods? An Interview with Kathryn Miles, author of Trailed:https://orionmagazine.org/article/julie-williams-lollie-winans-murder-appalachian-trail-book/Boston Globe: Tracking a killer and a cold case in Kathryn Miles's ‘Trailed'https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/04/28/arts/tracking-killer-cold-case/?event=event12Othram DNA Solves: You can help solve a case. Help fund a case or contribute your DNA. Your support helps solve crimes, enable the identification of John & Jane Does, and bring closure to families. Joining is fast, secure, and easy.https://dnasolves.com/Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastColonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 14,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comNew Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcoxhttps://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.htmlNew Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zanehttps://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it's entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.htmlColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/New Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcoxhttps://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.htmlNew Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zanehttps://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it's entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.htmlColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!https://lovethepodcast.com/jpHq3qWe launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions

Kathryn Miles is the author of “Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders.” The book, published by Algonquin, officially goes on sale on May 3. “Trailed” is about the 1996 murders of Lolly Winans and Julie Williams. The two young women had entered Virginia's Shenandoah National Park to go on a week-long backcountry camping trip. When they didn't return, park rangers began searching and found a scene of horror at the women's campsite. The murders were never solved. Then, in 2016, on the 20th anniversary of the case, the FBI announced they wanted to reinvestigate. That's when Miles thought she had a magazine story on her hands. “As soon as I started working with the FBI on this case, as soon as I was able to access some of the case files from the court case, it was very obvious to me that this case was much more complicated,” Miles said. “That's when I realized that we weren't talking about a 5,000-word piece here. We were talking about a 100,000-word piece.” This is the second time Miles has been on the podcast. She was a guest on Episode 46 in September 2016, discussing her Boston Globe story about a woman got lost and died while hiking the Appalachian Trail. Miles is the author of five books, including “Quakeland: On the Road to America's Next Devastating Earthquake” and “Super Storm: Nine Days Inside Hurricane Sandy.” Her essays and articles have appeared in The New York Times, Outside, the Boston Globe, Politico, and more. She's been anthologized by “Best American Essays” and “Best American Sports Writing.”

Julie Williams and Lollie Winans were murdered in the Shenandoah Mountains. Why hasn't their case been solved? And should we really stay out of the forest?Today's episode — the second in our “New True Crime Books” series, features an enthralling read: Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders. My guest is author Kathryn Miles, an outdoor enthusiast who shares a connection to the story and compelling theory on who killed these amazing young women.During the course of our conversation, Kathyrn leads us through the wilds of the back country — from the use of nature as a tool in trauma recovery, to the patriarchal aspects of wilderness culture. In addition to her quest for justice, Kathryn also fights for equity on the trails and is a fierce champion for people of all races, colors, and sizes, to enjoy all that the woods have to offer. TRAILED: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders launches May 3, but is available for pre-order now. Pre-order TRAILED https://amzn.to/3DJmD4dLearn more about Kathryn and her work here: https://www.kathrynmiles.net/Follow Kathryn on social media:https://www.facebook.com/TrailedTheBook/https://twitter.com/Kathryn_Mileshttps://www.instagram.com/kathryn_miles1/Today's Promo is for a podcast called True Crime Cat Lawyer!Listen to TCCL wherever you get your podcasts: https://www.truecrimecatlawyer.com/episodesDid you enjoy this episode of DIE-ALOGUE? Please tell a friend, share on your social media, and consider becoming a DIE-HARD on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/creator-homeDIE-ALOGUE will be at Crimecon in Las Vegas, April 28- May 1, 2022! Please come say hello on podcast row! Use the Code: DIEALOGUE when you register for 10% off your pass. https://crimecon.regfox.com/atokad543DIE-ALOGUE is sponsored in part by She's Birdie – the stylish and effective, personal safety alarms that I honestly don't leave home without! You can get 10% off your Birdie purchase when you shop this link: https://www.shesbirdie.com/?rfsn=4885943.d5e5e8Follow us on social media — we are @diealoguepod across all platforms.Please rate and review DIE-ALOGUE if you haven't already?! Then share the show with your friends, family, foes, + true crime communities.Rate on apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/die-alogue-a-true-crime-conversation/id1470890320Rate on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/64IHCryN2jFaswrVIzMV8wThank you for joining the conversation. You can always drop a line via the website https://www.rebekahsebastian.com/discover/#contactor by email: rebekah@yellowtapemedia.comDIE-ALOGUE is part of the Crawlspace Network, and is hosted and edited by Rebekah Sebastian. Audio engineering by Jason Usry.

This week Mountain Murders takes you back to a double murder in 1996 that rocked the outdoors community. Julie Williams and her partner Lollie Winans were backpacking at the Shenandoah National Park with their dog Taj. When Julie didn't return to start a new job, her family filed a missing person's report. An assailant brutally murdered the two women on a busy trail during a holiday weekend --and slipped away unnoticed. Join us as we recount a sad true crime case out of Virginia. Intro Music by Joe Buck YourselfHosts: Heather and Dylan PackerEmail: mountainmurderspodcast@gmail.com