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 "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by former Phoenix police detective Troy Hillman to discuss his powerful new true crime book "Chasing Down the Zombie Hunter: The True Story of a Small Town Accountant, an Elite Group of Detectives and Arizona's Most Terrifying Cold Case."  Troy tells the chlling account of how Troy and his team tracked down Bryan Miller, AKA the Zombie Hunter, a serail killer who was hiding in plain sight for 20 years after committing a series of brutal homicides and rapes. Simon and Shuster: Chasing Down the Zombie Hunter:https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Chasing-Down-the-Zombie-Hunter/Troy-A-Hillman/9781639369676Goodreads: Chasing Down the Zombie Hunter: The True Story of a Small-Town Accountant, an Elite Group of Detectives, and Arizona's Most Terrifying Cold Case:https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/224003345-chasing-down-the-zombie-hunterNBC: FBI Norfolk field office links deceased suspect to additional Colonial Parkway MurdersIn January 2026, the FBI announced Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. is responsible for the 1986 Virginia murders of Cathleen Thomas and Rebecca Dowski.https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/cold-case-spotlight/colonial-parkway-murders-cathleen-thomas-rebecca-dowski-resolved-rcna255097American Detective TV series: Colonial Parkway Murders:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0EWashingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-standWon't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customerWTVR CBS News:  Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024WAVY TV 10 News:  New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/WTKR News 3https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-casesVirginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway' murders died alone in 2017https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comJoin the discussion on our Mind Over MurderColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero ProductionsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

Forty days. No suspect. No arrest. The cadaver dogs have been stood down, the DNA has dead-ended twice, and the Sonoran Desert doesn't give things back.True Crime Today takes the Nancy Guthrie case out of the cable news cycle and into the hard statistical reality of what happens to missing persons cases that don't close in the first thirty days. The answer isn't comfortable — but it's what the evidence supports.After forty days with no viable DNA match, no identified suspect, and no clothing ID on the masked figure from the doorbell footage, the investigation has hit a structural ceiling. The glove DNA traced back to a restaurant worker with no case connection. The mixed crime scene DNA is too complex for a clean extraction. CODIS returned nothing. The FBI is still canvassing neighbors about internet disruptions from the night she disappeared — six weeks later. The unidentified vehicle on the Ring camera remains unidentified.Every year, roughly 600,000 people go missing in America. About 87 percent of those cases close within 30 days. Cases that don't close in that window enter a different statistical universe — one the reward money and the task force and the national press coverage cannot change. The FBI reported over 97,000 unresolved missing persons cases in a single year alone. In 2024, only 293 entries nationwide were coded as stranger abductions. True stranger abductions are the hardest cases in law enforcement — no shared history, no connection to triangulate, no thread to pull.Add the Sonoran Desert. Add the border corridor. Add an 84-year-old woman with a cardiac condition and forty days without medication.The evidence is saying something. This episode says it plainly.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #TucsonKidnapping #MissingPersons #CadaverDogs #DNAEvidence #FBIInvestigation #TrueCrimeToday #TrueCrime #StrangerAbduction

Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are they joined by former FBI agents Bobby Chacon, Jim Clemente and James "Fitz" Fitzgerald. All three were consultants, writers and/or  producers on the hit show "Criminal Minds," now celebrating its 20th anniversary and its spin-offs, "Criminal Minds: Beyond Borders," "Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior," and "Criminal Minds: Evolution." The series often incorporates real FBI stories from the careers of the subject matter experts.  This part 1 of 2 parts, and originally ran on November 3, 2025.Criminal Minds Fan Wiki: https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Criminal_Minds_WikiBobby Chacon:   https://bobbychacon.com/Jim Clemente and Real Crime Profile podcast:  https://www.realcrimeprofile.com/James Fitzgerald:  https://www.jamesrfitzgerald.com/NBC: FBI Norfolk field office links deceased suspect to additional Colonial Parkway MurdersIn January 2026, the FBI announced Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. is responsible for the 1986 Virginia murders of Cathleen Thomas and Rebecca Dowski.https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/cold-case-spotlight/colonial-parkway-murders-cathleen-thomas-rebecca-dowski-resolved-rcna255097American Detective TV series: Colonial Parkway Murders:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0EWashingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-standWon't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customerWTVR CBS News:  Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024WAVY TV 10 News:  New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/WTKR News 3https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-casesVirginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway' murders died alone in 2017https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comJoin the discussion on our Mind Over MurderColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero ProductionsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

Forty days. No suspect. No arrest. Cadaver dogs stood down. The DNA has dead-ended twice. And the desert keeps its secrets.This isn't pessimism — it's the evidence. After forty days with no named suspect, no viable DNA profile, and a biological clock that has long since run out for an 84-year-old woman with a cardiac condition, the Hidden Killers monologue goes where the cable coverage won't: straight into what the facts are actually saying.The glove DNA traced back to an unconnected restaurant worker. The mixed crime scene DNA is too complex to extract a usable profile. Nothing in CODIS matched. Six weeks in, investigators cannot identify the masked suspect's clothing. The unidentified car on the Ring camera 2.5 miles away is being reviewed alongside, in the sheriff's own words, hundreds of thousands of other vehicles. The FBI is still knocking on doors asking about internet disruptions from the night she disappeared.And then there's the number that reframes everything: 600,000. That's how many people go missing in America every year. Roughly 87 percent of those cases close within 30 days. Nancy Guthrie is past 40. She is statistically inside the universe of cases that don't resolve — high profile or not. The FBI carried over 97,000 unresolved missing persons cases in a single year. Those weren't household names. Fame doesn't change the math. It just changes the audience watching the math happen.In 2024, only 293 missing persons entries were coded as stranger abductions nationwide. They are the hardest cases to crack — because there's no connection between victim and perpetrator to triangulate. No shared history. No thread.Add the Sonoran Desert. Add forty days.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #TucsonKidnapping #MissingPersons #CadaverDogs #DNAEvidence #FBIInvestigation #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #StrangerAbduction

In this episode of Murder in the Black, we explore the heartbreaking story of 14-year-old Nacole Smith, a young girl with dreams of becoming a pediatrician who never made it to school on the morning of June 7, 1995.What began as a devastating crime in an Atlanta neighborhood would become a case that stretched across decades. Despite eyewitness descriptions, community efforts to identify a suspect, and early forensic evidence, investigators struggled to identify the man responsible.The case took a critical turn nearly nine years later, when 13-year-old Betty Brown survived a violent assault in East Point, Georgia. Betty's courage to report the attack and her detailed recollection of the man who assaulted her would ultimately connect the two cases through DNA evidence — revealing that the same offender had been living in the community for years.Through advances in forensic science, including DNA profiling, CODIS, and later genetic genealogy, investigators were eventually able to identify the suspect responsible for both crimes. But the resolution came with its own tragedy when the suspect died before he could face justice.In this episode we also introduce our True Crime in Current News segment, where we highlight cases currently unfolding that listeners have brought to our attention. In this episode we discuss several developing stories, including the disturbing discovery of two young girls found in suitcases in Cleveland, a Bronx double homicide connected to a domestic dispute, and a shocking case involving a former NFL player accused of killing his girlfriend and allegedly using ChatGPT in an attempt to research ways to cover up the crime.The life and dreams of Nacole SmithThe events of June 7, 1995, and the discovery of her murderEarly investigative leads and eyewitness descriptionsCommunity involvement and the circulation of the composite sketchSuspicion surrounding Jamar Hendrix and why resemblance to a sketch alone is not evidenceDNA evidence collected from the crime scene and its entry into CODISWhy CODIS searches sometimes return no matchThe 2002 jailhouse informant tip and why investigators ruled it outThe attack on Betty Brown and how her survival connected two crimesThe role of forensic science and genetic genealogy in solving cold casesThe identification of Kelvin Arnold decades laterThe emotional impact of the suspect dying before he could face justiceThe perseverance of investigators and the importance of survivor testimonyTrue Crime in Current News: listener-submitted cases and developing investigations00:00 – Introduction to Nacole Smith's case02:25 – Nacole's life, dreams, and family04:07 – The morning of June 7, 199507:26 – Discovery of the crime scene and evidence recovered09:55 – Witness descriptions and early suspect sketches11:42 – Community efforts and the composite sketch13:06 – Jamar Hendrix investigation and why he was ruled out14:37 – DNA evidence, CODIS, and investigative challenges17:31 – The 2002 jailhouse informant lead19:15 – The attack on Betty Brown in 200421:10 – DNA connection between Betty Brown's case and Nacole's murder25:20 – Advances in forensic science and genetic genealogy26:32 – Identification of Kelvin Arnold27:24 – Arnold's death before arrest in 202128:15 – Reflection on justice, persistence, and investigative tenacity35:02 – True Crime in Current News segment36:08 – Final thoughts and episode closeFollow + Support Murder in the Black

Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss a New York Times article, "Online Accusations in Guthrie Case Leave One Family Scared Numb."  Why are irresponsible true crime creators naming suspects in the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping? Are true crime podcasters, You Tube sleuths and Tick Toc producers acting in such a bizarre and irresponsible way? Have true crime ethics gone out the window?Online Accusations in Guthrie Abduction Leave One Family ‘Scared Numb'A fifth-grade teacher and his principal wife hid in their bedroom as dozens of people who believed he might be a kidnapper appeared on their suburban street.https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/25/us/nancy-guthrie-true-crime-accusations.htmlNBC: FBI Norfolk field office links deceased suspect to additional Colonial Parkway MurdersIn January 2026, the FBI announced Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. is responsible for the 1986 Virginia murders of Cathleen Thomas and Rebecca Dowski.https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/cold-case-spotlight/colonial-parkway-murders-cathleen-thomas-rebecca-dowski-resolved-rcna255097American Detective TV series: Colonial Parkway Murders:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0EWashingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customerWTVR CBS News:  Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024WAVY TV 10 News:  New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/WTKR News 3https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-casesVirginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway' murders died alone in 2017https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 20,000 followers:https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comJoin the discussion on our Mind Over MurderColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero ProductionsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

Every investigative pathway in the Nancy Guthrie case has dead-ended at once. Four weeks after Savannah Guthrie's 84-year-old mother was kidnapped from her Tucson home, there's no suspect in custody, no confirmed identification of the man on camera, and critical evidence has yielded no actionable leads.The DNA should have been a breakthrough. Gloves recovered two miles from the scene contained genetic material from an unknown male. But it didn't match anyone in CODIS. Genetic genealogy—the technique that solved the Golden State Killer case—could eventually provide answers, but the process takes months. Whether investigators are even pursuing that route remains unclear.Nancy's pacemaker offered another potential lead. The device emits a Bluetooth signal detectable from over two hundred yards away. Search teams flew helicopters specifically scanning for that signal across the Tucson area. They found nothing. The silence suggests troubling possibilities: Nancy could be somewhere the signal can't penetrate, the pacemaker may have stopped functioning, or worse.The suspect's face has been everywhere. Every major network has broadcast the doorbell footage. Fifty thousand tips have flooded in. Yet somehow, not one person has successfully identified him. No coworker. No neighbor. No one who has ever crossed paths with this man has come forward with information that led anywhere.Robin Dreeke, a 21-year FBI veteran who served as Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, addresses the dysfunction narrative. The crime scene released early. Blood photographed by reporters before federal agents secured the property. Evidence routed to a private lab. Contradictory public statements. Dreeke's assessment: this friction is normal. Multi-agency investigations always have this tension. The difference is that America is watching this one.Resources have drawn down. The home was returned to Nancy's family. What does that actually mean for the case?Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrieNews #NancyGuthrieMissing #TucsonMissingPerson #GuthrieCaseUpdate #SavannahGuthrieMother #FBIInvestigation #MissingPersonsCase #NancyGuthrieDNA #RobinDreeke #TrueCrimeToday

You've been flooding us with questions about the Nancy Guthrie disappearance. Tonight we're answering them—no guests, no filter, just the facts and what they tell us.Four weeks. An 84-year-old woman still missing. A suspect captured on camera whose face has been seen by millions. Fifty thousand tips submitted. And somehow, not a single person can identify him. How is that possible? Not one coworker, neighbor, family member, or casual acquaintance has recognized this man and come forward. We break down what that absence of identification actually means for the investigation.The DNA evidence has hit a wall. Gloves recovered two miles from the scene contained genetic material from an unknown male. No hit in CODIS. Genetic genealogy is an option—but it takes months, sometimes longer. Is that pathway even being pursued? And what about the mixed DNA found inside Nancy's residence?Nancy's pacemaker has a Bluetooth signal detectable from over two hundred yards away. Search teams flew helicopters specifically scanning for that signal. They found nothing. The implications are grim: either she's somewhere the signal can't escape, the device has stopped working, or something worse.Then there's the investigation itself. Robin Dreeke, who spent 21 years with the FBI including time as Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, offers insider perspective. The crime scene released before the FBI secured it. Blood photographed by reporters before federal agents arrived. Evidence sent to a private lab instead of Quantico. Contradictory statements about basic facts. Dreeke says this level of friction exists on almost every major case—we just don't usually see it.The resource drawdown. Operations moving to Phoenix. The home returned to the family. What do these developments actually signal? We're live with answers.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrieLive #NancyGuthrieQA #TucsonKidnappingUpdate #GuthrieSuspect #FBITucson #SavannahGuthrieMom #MissingPersonAlert #NancyGuthrieDNA #LiveTrueCrime #HiddenKillersLive

The footage shows his face. It's been broadcast on every major network. Fifty thousand tips have poured in. And somehow—four weeks later—not one person who has ever interacted with this man has come forward to identify him. That seems statistically impossible. Yet here we are.The Nancy Guthrie investigation has hit dead ends on every front simultaneously. DNA recovered from gloves two miles from the scene belongs to an unknown male—no match in CODIS. Genetic genealogy could provide answers, but the timeline stretches into months. Nancy's pacemaker emits a Bluetooth signal detectable from over two hundred yards. Helicopters searched for that signal specifically. Nothing. Does that mean she's somewhere the signal can't escape? Underground? Or has the device stopped functioning?Robin Dreeke spent 21 years with the FBI and served as Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program. He's worked inside the kind of multi-agency investigations playing out in Tucson right now. The friction everyone's watching—federal versus local, evidence routing disputes, contradictory public statements—Dreeke says that's not dysfunction. That's normal. The only difference is that a nation is paying attention this time.The criticism has been relentless. Reporters photographed blood on Nancy's front stoop before the FBI secured the property. The crime scene was released, then re-warranted, then searched again. DNA went to a private Florida lab while federal sources questioned the decision. Pima County said one thing about the footage timeline; network sources reported another. The FBI hasn't clarified.Resources have drawn down. Operations moved to Phoenix. The home was returned to Nancy's family. It looks like investigators are giving up. Dreeke explains what these moves actually mean from someone who's been inside the system.Your questions about the mixed DNA inside the residence, the fake ransom notes that were dismissed, the affluent neighborhood with cameras everywhere but no vehicle captured—answered.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrieCase #NancyGuthrieSuspect #TucsonMissing #FBIvsLocalPolice #RobinDreekeFBI #SavannahGuthrieMother #GuthrieInvestigation #MissingPersonsCase #PimaSheriff #HiddenKillersPod

"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by writer/producers Connor McCarthy and Patrick Rogers to discuss their new series "The Scream Murder" on Disney and Hulu Plus. Ther series tells the true story of two horror obsessed teens in Idaho who modeled their real- life murder of a 16 year old girl on the "Scream" movie franchise.People:  Inside the Teen Killing Where a Love of Slasher Movies Spiraled into Real-Life Horrorhttps://people.com/cassie-jo-stoddart-killing-hulu-docuseries-11896514NBC: FBI Norfolk field office links deceased suspect to additional Colonial Parkway MurdersIn January 2026, the FBI announced Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. is responsible for the 1986 Virginia murders of Cathleen Thomas and Rebecca Dowski.https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/cold-case-spotlight/colonial-parkway-murders-cathleen-thomas-rebecca-dowski-resolved-rcna255097American Detective TV series: Colonial Parkway Murders:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0EWashingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customerWTVR CBS News:  Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024WAVY TV 10 News:  New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/WTKR News 3https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-casesVirginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway' murders died alone in 2017https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 20,000 followers:https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comJoin the discussion on our Mind Over MurderColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero ProductionsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

The Nancy Guthrie case presents an investigative profile that defies conventional analysis. Four weeks after the 84-year-old's disappearance, investigators have substantial evidence—doorbell footage of a suspect, DNA recovered from gloves found two miles from the scene, over fifty thousand tips, and $1.3 million in combined rewards—yet no identification has been made and no arrest has occurred. The questions accumulating around this case warrant serious examination.The DNA recovered from the gloves did not produce a CODIS match. The investigative pathway forward likely involves genetic genealogy, but that process carries its own timeline considerations. How long does IGG typically take? What factors accelerate or delay results? Meanwhile, the volume of tips—fifty thousand—raises processing questions. What systems handle that volume? How are tips prioritized? Is it possible a credible lead remains buried in the queue?Nancy Guthrie's pacemaker contains Bluetooth technology with a detection range of approximately two hundred yards. Aerial searches specifically targeted that signal and found nothing. The implications vary: subterranean location, signal-blocking materials, device failure, or distance beyond search parameters. Each possibility carries different investigative and outcome implications.The suspect footage has received extensive media distribution, yet no identification has resulted. The statistical improbability of complete anonymity despite clear facial images raises questions about the suspect's social circumstances, geographic origin, or current status.Additional questions address the mixed DNA profile found inside the residence, the methodology used to dismiss ransom notes as opportunistic frauds, the timeline considerations for case status changes, and whether pattern analysis has connected this case to other incidents involving elderly victims or home invasions in the region.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #InvestigativeAnalysis #CriticalQuestions #GuthrieCase #TucsonMissing #DNAEvidence #GeneticGenealogy #MissingPerson #TrueCrimeLaw #CaseAnalysis

Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss Bill Thomas and Bob Dowski's recent meeting with FBI Norfolk, where they were told that waterman Alan Wade Wilmer, Senior was responsible for the murder of their two sisters in October 1986. Let us take you inside the actual meeting. How was the Thomas/Dowski case closed? Are they satisfied with the FBI's story? How many open questions remain?  What about the other unsolved Colonial Parkway Murders?  This is part 3 of multiple parts.NBC: FBI Norfolk field office links deceased suspect to additional Colonial Parkway MurdersIn January 2026, the FBI announced Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. is responsible for the 1986 Virginia murders of Cathleen Thomas and Rebecca Dowski.https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/cold-case-spotlight/colonial-parkway-murders-cathleen-thomas-rebecca-dowski-resolved-rcna255097American Detective TV series: Colonial Parkway Murders:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0EWashingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customerWTVR CBS News:  Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024WAVY TV 10 News:  New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/WTKR News 3https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-casesVirginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway' murders died alone in 2017https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 20,000 followers:https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comJoin the discussion on our Mind Over MurderColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero ProductionsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

Fifty thousand tips. A million-dollar reward. A suspect's face broadcast nationwide. And four weeks later—nothing. No identification. No arrest. No Nancy. You've been asking questions about the Nancy Guthrie case, and honestly, they're the same questions we've been asking ourselves. So let's get into it.Is Nancy Guthrie still alive? What does a month of silence with no ransom demand tell us? The DNA on those gloves didn't hit in CODIS—what's the next step? Genetic genealogy? How long does that take? How does law enforcement even process fifty thousand tips? Is it possible the real lead is buried somewhere in that pile and nobody's gotten to it yet?Nancy's pacemaker has a Bluetooth signal detectable from over two hundred yards. Helicopters searched for it. Found nothing. What does that mean? And the footage—it shows this man's face clearly. How is it possible that not a single person on earth recognizes him?The mixed DNA inside the residence raises questions about multiple contributors or contamination. The ransom notes were dismissed as fakes sent by opportunists. The neighborhood has cameras everywhere, yet no vehicle was captured. Could he have moved her on foot? Is there a property nearby he had access to?At what point does a case like this go cold? What resources get pulled? What can the family even do at this point? And the speculation online about connections to other cases—other missing elderly women, other home invasions in Arizona—has anyone looked at whether this could be part of a pattern?Your questions. Our thoughts. No guests, no filter.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #GuthrieQA #QuestionsAnswered #TucsonMissing #HiddenKillers #MissingPerson #GuthrieCase #TrueCrime #ListenerQuestions #FindNancyGuthrie

Four weeks into the Nancy Guthrie investigation and the questions keep piling up. You've been sending them in—about the DNA, the footage, the fifty thousand tips, the pacemaker, the silence. Today we're going through them. No guests. Just your questions and our breakdown of what the evidence tells us.Is Nancy still alive? That's the question nobody wants to ask out loud. A month with no ransom demand, no credible sighting, no contact from whoever took her. What does that level of silence actually indicate?The gloves recovered two miles from the house had DNA from an unknown male. It didn't match anyone in CODIS. Are investigators running genetic genealogy? How long does that process take? And in the meantime, how does law enforcement process fifty thousand tips? Is the real lead buried somewhere in that mountain?Nancy has a pacemaker with a Bluetooth signal that helicopters searched for. They found nothing. What does that tell us about where she might be—or whether the pacemaker is still functioning?The footage shows the suspect's face clearly. It's been broadcast everywhere. How is it statistically possible that nobody has recognized him? Not a coworker, not a neighbor, not a single family member? The mixed DNA inside the residence, the fake ransom notes, the affluent neighborhood with no vehicle captured on any camera—we're breaking down what each piece means and what questions remain unanswered.Your questions. Live answers. Let's get into it.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrieLive #GuthrieQA #LiveTrueCrime #YourQuestions #TucsonMissing #GuthrieCase #ListenerQuestions #MissingPerson #FindNancy #HiddenKillersLive

Four hundred investigators. DNA recovered at the scene. Forty thousand tips processed. And still—no suspect. No vehicle. No names being investigated.The Nancy Guthrie investigation has reached an inflection point. Sources say operations may soon transition from surge mode to a smaller long-term task force. The family has been briefed. CODIS returned no match. Mixed DNA samples at a Florida lab are hitting obstacles. Two people were detained and released with no connection to the kidnapping. The backpack and gloves found near the scene led nowhere.There's tension in the official narrative. Some sources suggest the doorbell camera images may have been captured on different days—raising the possibility of prior surveillance. Pima County Sheriff's Department calls that theory "purely speculative." Criminal defense attorney Bob Motta breaks down what this evidence means legally and why the disconnect between official statements and leaks matters for any future prosecution.Then Savannah Guthrie announced the family is offering one million dollars for information leading to Nancy's "recovery." Combined with existing rewards, over 1.2 million dollars is now available. At that number, someone in the perpetrator's orbit starts doing math.Robin Dreeke ran FBI behavioral analysis for twenty-one years. He examines what happens psychologically when an investigation transitions from surge to sustained—the institutional recalibration, the pressure on command structures, and what historically makes someone with dangerous knowledge finally act.Someone knows. The reward is there. The DNA is processing.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #TrueCrimeToday #MillionDollarReward #TucsonKidnapping #DNAEvidence #RobinDreeke #BobMotta #FBIBehavioral #TrueCrime

Four hundred investigators. DNA at the scene. Forty thousand tips. And still no suspect.The Nancy Guthrie investigation has reached a critical inflection point—and we're breaking down what comes next.Sources say operations may transition from surge mode to a smaller long-term task force. Two people detained and released with no connection. CODIS returned no match on the DNA. Mixed samples at a Florida lab hitting obstacles. The backpack and gloves found near the scene led nowhere. No vehicle identified. No names being investigated.There's also tension in the official narrative. Some sources suggest the doorbell camera may have captured images on different days—raising the possibility of prior visits. Pima County Sheriff's Department calls that "purely speculative." Bob Motta breaks down what that evidentiary dispute means and why the disconnect between official statements and leaks matters.Then the reward jumped to over 1.2 million dollars. Savannah Guthrie announced the family is offering one million for information leading to Nancy's "recovery." At that number, loyalty in the perpetrator's orbit starts to fracture.Robin Dreeke spent twenty-one years running FBI behavioral analysis programs. He examines what happens psychologically when an investigation transitions from surge to sustained—and what makes someone with dangerous knowledge finally pick up the phone.Someone close to whoever did this has noticed the stress. The fear. What makes them act?We're taking your questions live.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillersLive #MillionDollarReward #TucsonKidnapping #DNAEvidence #LivePodcast #RobinDreeke #BobMotta #TrueCrime

The evidence in the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping doesn't read like a solo operation.Weeks of apparent reconnaissance—but no coherent extraction plan. Forensic awareness at the point of entry—but a glove discarded two miles from the scene. Ransom notes containing insider-level details—but no viable collection mechanism ever established.Investigators aren't ruling out multiple actors. And if this was a partnership, behavioral science tells us something important: partnerships fracture under pressure. Someone breaks.Robin Dreeke ran the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program. He spent his career studying how people with dangerous knowledge eventually talk—and what pushes them to that decision. He joins True Crime Today to examine what the contradictory evidence suggests about the perpetrator profile and the psychology of the inevitable break.The investigation has reached a critical juncture. Sources say operations may transition from the four-hundred-investigator surge to a smaller long-term task force. Two people have been detained and released with no connection to the case. The DNA recovered at the scene produced no CODIS match. No vehicle has been identified. The family has cooperated fully and been briefed on the operational shift.But the pressure on whoever did this is mounting. The reward exceeds two hundred thousand dollars. Genetic genealogy teams are working the DNA. And somewhere in the perpetrator's life—a spouse, a coworker, a family member—someone has noticed the behavioral changes. The stress. The inconsistencies.Robin breaks down who that person typically is, what they're weighing, and what historically tips them from suspicion to action. Cases like this get solved when someone talks.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #TrueCrimeToday #Accomplice #RobinDreeke #FBIBehavioral #RewardMoney #GeneticGenealogy #TucsonKidnapping #HiddenKillers

Weeks into the Nancy Guthrie investigation, the forensic picture is more complicated than the headlines suggest.Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer assesses what investigators are actually working with—and it's not as clean as the public might assume.The DNA recovered inside the Nancy Guthrie home is a mixture still being separated. Family members, landscapers, service workers all contributed to the sample. Genetic genealogy can't begin until that profile is clean enough to upload. With questions about lab facilities and sample condition, the timeline remains uncertain.The glove found miles from the property? Processed through CODIS. No match to anyone in the system—and critically, no match to the DNA at the scene. Coffindaffer raises the possibility it shouldn't be treated as case evidence at all.Meanwhile: lost Nest camera footage. A pacemaker search running for weeks. Tens of thousands of tips. No suspect identified.But the pressure is building on whoever did this—and Robin Dreeke, former head of the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, breaks down what that pressure is doing to them right now.The reconnaissance windows suggest someone local. Someone who's been watching weeks of national coverage knowing genetic genealogy is processing, the FBI is showing photos at gun shops, and CeCe Moore told national TV the kidnapper should be "extremely concerned."What does that pressure do to someone trying to act normal? What behavioral tells might they be showing to people around them?The forensic awareness at the door suggests planning. The dropped glove suggests panic. Dreeke identifies the signature of someone who may be in over their head.This is the Nancy Guthrie investigation—where it actually stands.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #TrueCrimeToday #Coffindaffer #RobinDreeke #GeneticGenealogy #DNAEvidence #CODISMiss #TucsonKidnapping #CaseUpdate

We've been covering the Nancy Guthrie case since the beginning. This week, we step back from the daily updates and assess the investigation with two retired FBI experts who've been in rooms like this before.Jennifer Coffindaffer delivers a forensic reality check. The DNA from inside the Nancy Guthrie home? It's a mixture. Family, landscapers, service workers—all contributing to a sample that has to be separated before genetic genealogy can even begin. The glove found miles away? CODIS miss. Doesn't match the property DNA. Coffindaffer asks the question investigators should be asking: is this even case evidence, or is it a resource drain?Add in lost Nest footage, a pacemaker search still running weeks later, and tens of thousands of tips that haven't identified a suspect—and the forensic picture is clear. This case is waiting for a break that hasn't come.But the pressure on whoever did this is building by the day.Robin Dreeke ran the FBI's behavioral analysis program. He breaks down what sustained national attention does to someone trying to act normal. The reconnaissance windows suggest someone local—someone who's spent weeks watching themselves become America's most wanted while going to work, coming home, pretending everything's fine.What mistakes do people make under that pressure? What tells might they be showing to a spouse, a roommate, a coworker who's noticed something off?The forensic awareness at the door suggests planning. The dropped glove suggests panic. Dreeke reads the signature of someone in over their head.This is where the Nancy Guthrie investigation actually stands—and what might finally crack it open.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #Coffindaffer #RobinDreeke #GeneticGenealogy #DNAEvidence #TucsonKidnapping #SuspectPsychology #TrueCrime

The surge is slowing. After weeks of round-the-clock operations with four hundred investigators, sources say the Nancy Guthrie case may transition to a smaller, sustainable task force. The family has been briefed on the change. And the questions that remain unanswered are significant.The DNA recovered at the scene hit no match in CODIS. No vehicle has been connected to the crime. Two individuals were detained and released with no established connection. The ransom notes contained details suggesting inside knowledge—but no collection mechanism was ever viable. Command coordination between Sheriff Chris Nanos and the FBI has faced scrutiny throughout.Former FBI hostage negotiator Rich Frankel framed the transition directly: investigators must eventually move to a sustainable level of manpower. The case isn't closed. But the operational posture is changing.Robin Dreeke ran the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program for years. He joins Hidden Killers to break down what this transition actually means—not the public messaging, but the institutional reality. What gets prioritized when resources contract? What leverage points remain? And what does the incoming task force lead need to protect to keep this case solvable?The evidence suggests contradictions that may point to multiple actors. Reconnaissance without a coherent plan. Forensic discipline at the door but a glove dropped miles away. Someone planned this. Someone executed it. And someone in the perpetrator's life is watching them unravel under the pressure of a two-hundred-thousand-dollar reward and genetic genealogy closing in.Robin explains the psychology of the break—and who historically becomes the person who talks.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #TaskForce #RobinDreeke #ChrisNanos #FBIInvestigation #TucsonKidnapping #GeneticGenealogy #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

Two detentions. No arrests. Four hundred investigators. No suspect named.The Nancy Guthrie case has consumed massive law enforcement resources—and produced no resolution. Sources now indicate the investigation may shift to a long-term task force model. The family, who has cooperated fully throughout, has been briefed that the surge-level operations cannot hold.What went wrong? And what happens now?Robin Dreeke spent over two decades in FBI counterintelligence and ran the Bureau's Behavioral Analysis Program. He joins Hidden Killers Live to dissect the institutional dynamics at play—the effect of high-profile detentions that produced nothing, the command tensions between Sheriff Chris Nanos and federal authorities, and what critical decisions the incoming task force leadership must get right.The forensic picture remains incomplete. DNA was recovered but matched no one in CODIS. No vehicle has been identified. The ransom communications showed knowledge that suggested proximity to the family—but the collection mechanism was never functional. Investigators aren't ruling out that more than one person was involved.The contradictions are striking: weeks of surveillance but no extraction plan, forensic awareness at the scene but a glove dropped two miles out. That profile raises questions about whether this was a solo act or a fractured partnership.Robin explains how partnerships under this kind of pressure historically break—and what makes someone in the perpetrator's orbit finally decide to talk. The reward exceeds two hundred thousand dollars. Genetic genealogy is processing the DNA. Someone close to whoever did this is watching them change. This episode examines what it takes to turn suspicion into action.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillersLive #RobinDreeke #FBIBehavioral #TucsonKidnapping #ChrisNanos #DNAEvidence #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by Sacramento County District Attorney Thien Ho to discuss his powerful new book, "The People Vs. The Golden State Killer," which tells the behind the scenes story of the successful prosecution of Joseph D'Angelo. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on October 27, 2025.Thien Ho Website:  https://www.thienho.org/American Detective TV series: Colonial Parkway Murders:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0EWashingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-standWon't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customerWTVR CBS News:  Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024WAVY TV 10 News:  New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/WTKR News 3https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-casesVirginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway' murders died alone in 2017https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comJoin the discussion on our Mind Over MurderColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero ProductionsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

Four hundred investigators. DNA at the scene. Forty thousand tips. No suspect.The Nancy Guthrie investigation has reached a crossroads. Sources say operations may soon transition from surge mode to a smaller long-term task force. The family has been briefed. Two people were detained and released with no connection. CODIS returned nothing. The backpack and gloves found near the scene led nowhere. No vehicle identified.The doorbell camera evidence has generated competing narratives. Some sources suggest the images may have been captured on different days—raising the possibility the suspect visited before the night Nancy vanished. Pima County Sheriff's Department calls that theory "purely speculative." Criminal defense attorney Bob Motta breaks down why that tension between official statements and leaked information matters legally.Then the reward jumped. Savannah Guthrie announced the family is offering one million dollars for information leading to Nancy's "recovery"—word choice that carries weight. Total reward now exceeds 1.2 million dollars.Robin Dreeke ran the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program for twenty-one years. He examines the contradictions investigators are working to reconcile: apparent reconnaissance but no extraction plan, forensic awareness at entry but a glove discarded miles away, ransom communications with insider details but no collection mechanism.Does that profile suggest one actor—or a partnership where someone planned and someone else executed?Someone in the perpetrator's orbit knows. At 1.2 million dollars, silence gets expensive.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #MillionDollarReward #TucsonKidnapping #DNAEvidence #HiddenKillers #RobinDreeke #BobMotta #FBIBehavioral #TrueCrime

This week's True Crime Headlines episode covers five developing stories — from a highly anticipated trial start, to a new murder charge, to a devastating multi-victim murder/suicide, plus a decades-old cold case conviction tied to forensic evidence, and an update in a missing person investigation.We're focusing on what's new, what investigators and courts are saying publicly right now, and what to watch next — while keeping the emphasis where it belongs: on the people harmed, and the families living with the aftermath.Today's HeadlinesKouri Richins trial begins — the Utah mom accused in her husband's death heads to court as the case enters a new, high-stakes phase.“American Idol” alum charged with murdering his wife — new allegations include claims of staging, as the case moves through the legal system.Florida murder/suicide spree — authorities say a man killed six people across multiple locations before taking his own life, leaving families and communities reeling.1982 Bay Area teen murder — prosecutors say a cigarette-butt DNA link helped seal a conviction decades after the killing.Nancy Guthrie update — investigators say DNA recovered from a glove did not match anyone in CODIS, raising questions about next investigative steps.If you or someone you know needs support:National Domestic Violence Hotline (US): 1-800-799-SAFE (7233)988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (US): Call or text 988National Sexual Assault Hotline (RAINN): 1-800-656-HOPE (4673)

Jennifer Coffindaffer joins Hidden Killers Live to assess the physical evidence in the Nancy Guthrie case — and separate what's real from what's noise. The glove found two miles from the house has dominated headlines, but its DNA doesn't match anything at the property and hit nothing in CODIS. Coffindaffer tackles the question no one else is asking: should this glove even be treated as evidence in this case?Inside the home, the DNA picture is a mess — a mixture of multiple contributors that investigators are still trying to separate. Coffindaffer explains what that process actually involves, what determines success or failure, and whether the sample is usable for the genetic genealogy approach investigators are now pursuing.The lab fight gets a direct assessment: Nanos sent evidence to a private Florida lab while the FBI wanted it at Quantico. Coffindaffer evaluates both arguments and addresses whether evidence may have already been degraded. The conversation also covers Google's admission that additional Nest footage likely cannot be recovered, the ongoing pacemaker search, and why 50,000 tips haven't produced a suspect.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #Coffindaffer #FBI #DNAEvidence #GeneticGenealogy #TucsonArizona #PimaCountySheriff #TrueCrime #HiddenKillersLive

"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by former FBI agents and profilers James R Fitzgerald and Dr. Raymond Carr in a new crossover episode with the "Cold Red" podcast.  Fitz and Ray offer their expert opinion as they discuss the recently announced news that the October 1986 murder of Cathy Thomas and Rebecca Dowski has now been linked via DNA to Colonial Parkway Murders suspect Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. This brings Wilmer's total murders to 6 victims.Cold Red Podcast on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@ColdRedPodcast-tb2lb/videosNBC: FBI Norfolk field office links deceased suspect to additional Colonial Parkway MurdersIn January 2026, the FBI announced Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. is responsible for the 1986 Virginia murders of Cathleen Thomas and Rebecca Dowski.https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/cold-case-spotlight/colonial-parkway-murders-cathleen-thomas-rebecca-dowski-resolved-rcna255097American Detective TV series: Colonial Parkway Murders:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0EWashingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customerWTVR CBS News:  Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024WAVY TV 10 News:  New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/WTKR News 3https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-casesVirginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway' murders died alone in 2017https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 20,000 followers:https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comJoin the discussion on our Mind Over MurderColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero ProductionsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer joins Hidden Killers to assess the forensic evidence in the Nancy Guthrie disappearance — and the picture is complicated. DNA inside the home is a mixture still being separated. A glove found miles away hit nothing in CODIS and doesn't match the property samples. Genetic genealogy is now in play, but requires a usable profile that investigators may not yet have.Coffindaffer evaluates whether the glove should even be treated as connected to this case, what it takes to separate mixed DNA from a home with regular visitors, and whether the private Florida lab processing the evidence has compromised the material that genetic genealogy needs to work. Othram — the company that helped identify Bryan Kohberger — publicly called the lab decision devastating. Coffindaffer gives her assessment of the competing arguments.The conversation covers the loss of potential Nest camera footage after Google indicated it likely cannot recover additional video, the ongoing pacemaker helicopter search nineteen days after the device disconnected, and the reality behind 50,000 tips that have produced no named suspect. Coffindaffer identifies the forensic avenues worth pursuing and the ones that should be abandoned.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #Coffindaffer #FBI #DNAEvidence #GeneticGenealogy #CODIS #TucsonArizona #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

The physical evidence in the Nancy Guthrie disappearance has not produced a suspect, a match, or a confirmed connection to whoever took the eighty-four-year-old from her Tucson home nineteen days ago. Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer joins True Crime Today to assess what investigators are actually working with.The DNA inside Nancy's home is a mixture — multiple people in a house with regular visitors. Still being separated. The glove found two miles away missed in CODIS and doesn't match property samples. Genetic genealogy is the next move, but it needs a clean profile that may not exist yet. Coffindaffer breaks down each forensic avenue: what's viable, what's compromised, and what investigators should stop spending time on.The lab controversy gets examined — why evidence went to a Florida facility instead of the FBI's Quantico lab, what Othram's public criticism means, and whether the DNA samples have been degraded by the testing process. Coffindaffer also addresses the pacemaker helicopter search, the loss of potential Nest footage, and the 50,000 tips that haven't cracked the case open.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #Coffindaffer #FBI #TrueCrimeToday #GeneticGenealogy #DNAEvidence #TucsonArizona #CODIS #TrueCrime

The Nancy Guthrie case is a psychological event as much as a criminal investigation. The man on the doorbell footage planned for weeks and still made mistakes that suggest he'd never done anything like this before. His DNA produced no CODIS matches — a person capable of kidnapping an 84-year-old medically fragile woman who has apparently never been in the system. The investigation has been flooded with false ransom demands, contaminated evidence, dead-end leads, and fifty thousand tips that have yet to produce a suspect. And the family has spent seventeen days in a state of ambiguous loss — not knowing if their mother is alive — while strangers online accused them of involvement based on nothing but proximity to a timeline.On Hidden Killers, psychotherapist Shavaun Scott delivers a comprehensive psychological breakdown of every dimension of this case. Scott — author of The Minds of Mass Killers, with more than thirty years working in forensic mental health — examines the mind behind the crime, analyzing what the contradiction between preparation and sloppiness reveals about the perpetrator's psychological state, what targeting a pacemaker-dependent elderly woman means clinically, and what the suspect is experiencing right now under escalating pressure.She then dissects the noise engulfing the investigation — the psychology of people who exploit a stranger's kidnapping with fabricated ransom demands, the corrosive effect of evidence contamination on investigator and public confidence, and the point where massive tip volume becomes an active obstacle rather than a resource.Finally, Scott examines the layered psychological trauma the Guthrie family is enduring: the clinical reality of ambiguous loss, the specific cruelty of public grief judgment, the compounding helplessness of watching institutional failures they can't control, and the hard truth that being cleared as suspects doesn't erase the psychological damage of having been accused. She confronts whether a family can come through this kind of sustained siege without permanent psychological scarring — regardless of how the case ends.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #GuthriePsychology #SuspectMindset #FamilyUnderSiege #InvestigationChaos #ShavaunScott #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimePodcast #ForensicPsychologyJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

Authorities say the glove found near Nancy Guthrie's home has resulted in no DNA match, saying 'the DNA submitted to CODIS... did not trigger a match.' Henry Tenon is headed to trial after changing plea to 'not guilty.'#CourtTV - What do YOU think?  Binge all episodes of #OpeningStatements here: https://www.courttv.com/trials/opening-statements-with-julie-grant/Watch 24/7 Court TV LIVE Stream Today [https://www.courttv.com/]Join the Investigation Newsletter [https://www.courttv.com/email/]Court TV Podcast [https://www.courttv.com/podcast/]Join the Court TV Community to get access to perks:  [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo5E9pEhK_9kWG7-5HHcyRg/join]FOLLOW THE CASE:  Facebook [https://www.facebook.com/courttv]Twitter/X [https://twitter.com/CourtTV]Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/courttvnetwork/]TikTok [https://www.tiktok.com/@courttvlive]YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/c/COURTTV]WATCH +140 FREE TRIALS IN THE COURT TV ARCHIVE  [https://www.courttv.com/trials/] HOW TO FIND COURT TV  [https://www.courttv.com/where-to-watch/] This episode of the Opening Statements Podcast is hosted by Julie Grant, produced by Eric Goldson, and edited by Autumn Sewell. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Two and a half weeks into the Nancy Guthrie disappearance, the investigation has been buried under a mountain of noise that shows no sign of clearing. At least one ransom communication has been confirmed fraudulent — leading to the federal arrest of a California man with no connection to the case. Additional ransom notes demanding cryptocurrency remain unverified. A live-broadcast detention near the border produced no charges. A SWAT raid two miles from the home produced no arrests. And the DNA evidence from a glove found miles from the crime scene — the lead that generated the most public hope — came back today with no CODIS match and no connection to the DNA recovered at the property.On True Crime Today, psychotherapist Shavaun Scott analyzes the psychological ecosystem of a contaminated case. Scott has worked in forensic mental health for over thirty years and understands what happens when chaos overwhelms an investigation from every direction. She examines the psychology of people who fabricate ransom demands in stranger kidnappings, the corrosive effect of evidence contamination on investigator morale and public confidence, and the psychological phenomenon of dramatic investigative action that produces zero results.She also addresses a dimension of the noise that rarely gets discussed: the chilling effect on real witnesses. When a person of interest is stopped, searched, and broadcast nationally — then cleared and released — what happens to the next person who might have genuine information but doesn't want their life turned inside out on camera? At what point does the volume of public participation tip from asset to liability?This is an examination of how noise, spectacle, and dysfunction can become the primary obstacles in a case where time is the one thing a missing 84-year-old woman doesn't have.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #GuthrieNoise #BungledEvidence #FalseTips #CaseContamination #ShavaunScott #TrueCrimeToday #HiddenKillers #TucsonCaseJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

The suspect in the Nancy Guthrie case made a series of decisions on the night of February 1st that tell a psychological story investigators are still trying to read. He masked his face. He brought a weapon. He apparently knew where the doorbell camera was. But he dropped a glove that was recovered with his DNA — DNA that came back today with no matches in the national CODIS database. He bought his gear at Walmart. And he took an 84-year-old woman who depends on a pacemaker and daily heart medication, separating her from everything keeping her alive.On True Crime Today, psychotherapist Shavaun Scott — who has worked in forensic settings with violent offenders for more than three decades and authored The Minds of Mass Killers — analyzes the criminal psychology of the Guthrie case. Scott breaks down what the contradictions in the suspect's behavior reveal: the gap between preparation and sloppiness, the significance of targeting a medically vulnerable victim, and what it means clinically when someone with no criminal record escalates directly into a crime of this magnitude.She addresses the psychological difference between a planned kidnapping and a burglary that went wrong in real time — and what happens inside someone's brain when a crime shifts from one category to another in the middle of execution. She also examines the psychological pressure the suspect is living under right now: two and a half weeks in, no arrest, but the net tightening with every evidence disclosure, every press conference, and every one of the fifty thousand tips flowing into the investigation.This is a forensic psychology deep dive anchored in confirmed facts from the investigation.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #SuspectPsychology #TucsonAbduction #GuthrieInvestigation #ForensicPsychology #ShavaunScott #TrueCrimeToday #HiddenKillers #DNAEvidenceJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

Journalist Andrew Goldman joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new podcast "Dead Certain: The Martha Moxley Murder," which covers the 1975 case of Martha Moxley.  Kennedy cousin Michael Skakel was convicted of Moxley's murder in 2002. His conviction was later overturned due to inadequate counsel, and after several back and forth decisions, the State of Connecticut declined to pursue charges against Skakel in 2020. This is part 2 of 2 parts covering "Dead Certain."Dead Certain: The Martha Moxley Murder:  https://www.nbcnews.com/deadcertainNBC: FBI Norfolk field office links deceased suspect to additional Colonial Parkway MurdersIn January 2026, the FBI announced Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. is responsible for the 1986 Virginia murders of Cathleen Thomas and Rebecca Dowski.https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/cold-case-spotlight/colonial-parkway-murders-cathleen-thomas-rebecca-dowski-resolved-rcna255097American Detective TV series: Colonial Parkway Murders:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0EWashingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customerWAVY TV 10 News:  New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/WTKR News 3https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-casesVirginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway' murders died alone in 2017https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 20,000 followers:https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comJoin the discussion on our Mind Over MurderColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero ProductionsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

Fake ransom notes. A federal arrest for a fraudulent text. A live-television detention that led nowhere. Sixteen contaminated gloves. A promising DNA lead that just collapsed. Fifty thousand tips and still no suspect. The Nancy Guthrie case has generated more noise in seventeen days than most investigations produce in a year — and the psychological toll of that chaos is hitting everyone involved.On Hidden Killers, psychotherapist Shavaun Scott — who has spent three decades in forensic mental health settings — analyzes the psychology behind the distractions plaguing this investigation. What drives a person like Derrick Callella to fabricate a ransom demand in a kidnapping he has no connection to? Why do high-profile cases attract predatory opportunists who exploit a family's worst moment for attention or cryptocurrency? And what happens psychologically when evidence that was supposed to be the break — the glove, the DNA, the CODIS submission — turns into another dead end?Scott examines how evidence contamination at the scale seen in this case erodes both investigator confidence and public trust. She addresses the psychological impact of contradictory narratives leaking from within the investigation — one source calling it a burglary gone wrong, the sheriff calling it a kidnapping, the FBI staying silent. And she tackles the uncomfortable question of what fifty thousand tips actually represent: how much is real information, and how much is anxiety, suspicion, and the human need to feel like you're doing something?When a case produces constant dramatic action but zero resolution, the activity itself becomes psychologically corrosive — for the investigators, for the public, and above all for the family trapped at the center of a storm that shows no sign of clearing.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #GuthrieNoise #FalseLeads #FakeRansom #ContaminatedScene #ShavaunScott #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimePodcast #PimaCountyJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

Everyone is talking about the wrong DNA and the wrong theory. The glove found two miles from Nancy Guthrie's home dominated headlines this week when CODIS returned no match. But that glove DNA doesn't match the DNA found inside her property. Two profiles. Two people. The glove may be completely unconnected to this crime.The DNA that matters came from inside Nancy's home. It doesn't belong to her or anyone close to her. Investigators believe it may belong to the suspect, and it's now going to forensic investigative genetic genealogy — the process that cracked the Golden State Killer case and identified Bryan Kohberger. CeCe Moore of Parabon NanoLabs calls the evidence "extremely hopeful" and notes that the speed of identification could itself reveal whether this suspect is local or foreign.The cartel theory continues to flood social media based on one fact: Tucson is sixty miles from Mexico. Law enforcement sources across the board have pushed back. Multiple sources told NewsNation the case shows no signs of cartel involvement. Former FBI agents see no reason a cartel would target Nancy Guthrie. The doorbell footage shows a lone amateur in Walmart gear who couldn't disable a camera. No vehicle. No team. No direct contact with the family in nineteen days. That's not how cartels operate.Tony Brueski separates the signal from the noise and explains why the property DNA — not the glove, not the ransom emails, not the Mexico headlines — is the only thing that moves this case forward.#NancyGuthrie #GuthrieCase #NancyGuthrieDNA #GeneticGenealogy #CartelTheory #SavannahGuthrie #TucsonKidnapping #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimePodcast #ForensicGenealogyJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

The man who took Nancy Guthrie from her Tucson home prepared for weeks — and still made mistakes that could define the entire investigation. He surveilled the house. He masked his face. He brought a weapon and a backpack. But he dropped a glove, wore gear traceable to Walmart, and left behind DNA that just came back with zero matches in the national database. This is someone who planned but couldn't execute cleanly. Someone who crossed the line into serious violence for what appears to be the first time.In this episode of Hidden Killers, psychotherapist Shavaun Scott — author of The Minds of Mass Killers and a thirty-year veteran of forensic mental health work — analyzes the psychology behind the crime itself. Not the evidence. The choices. What does it mean when someone capable of kidnapping an 84-year-old medically fragile woman has no criminal history in CODIS? What does the gap between surveillance-level preparation and Walmart-level execution tell us about his psychological state on the night of February 1st? And what is happening inside his mind right now — two and a half weeks in, with helicopters overhead, his face on wanted posters, and the FBI closing in on every piece of gear he touched?Scott breaks down the dueling theories — planned kidnapping versus burglary gone wrong — from a clinical standpoint and explains why the answer matters far beyond this case. She examines what the decision to target a vulnerable elderly woman reveals about empathy, risk processing, and the psychological threshold this person crossed when he separated Nancy from her pacemaker, her medication, and everything keeping her alive.This is criminal psychology grounded in confirmed facts, built to hold up no matter where the investigation goes.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #GuthrieSuspect #CriminalPsychology #TucsonKidnapping #ShavaunScott #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimePodcast #CODISNoMatch #PimaCountyJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

Let's dig into the latest developments in the Nancy Guthrie case and talk about what investigators are saying about the glove DNA not producing a CODIS hit, why that doesn't automatically kill the lead, and why I've been warning from the beginning that this glove was always a longshot. We'll also talk about the two most practical paths forward right now: the Walmart backpack trace and what investigators can squeeze out of retail data and store video, and the genealogical DNA thread… what it actually is, what it isn't, and how it sometimes turns “unknown male DNA” into a real person… even when CODIS comes up empty. I hated the presumptive statement that the glove tied to the crime from the gitgo. #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #AnnieGuthrie #TommasoCioni #ChrisNanos #PimaCountySheriff #PimaCounty #Tucson #Arizona #FBI #CODIS #GenealogicalDNA #ForensicGeneticGenealogy #Walmart #OzarkTrail #Backpack #Holster #DoorbellVideo #NestCamera #CatalinaFoothills #MissingPerson #Abduction #Kidnapping #TrueCrime #ProfilingEvil #MikeKing #Investigation #Victimology #CrimeNews #TipLine #BringNancyHome======================================== AIPAS Discount Code:https://aipasbike.com/?ref=PROFILINGEVIL========================================https://gamutpodcasts.com/show/gardensofevilinsidethezionsocietycult/======================================== 20% OFF Newspapers.com https://www.newspapers.com/go/podcast/?ref=profilingevil?xid=8877&utm_source=ProfilingEvilPodcast&utm_medium=podcst&utm_campaign=ProfilingEvil26======================================== Email your questions to:ProfilingEvil@gmail.com========================================

DNA on gloves found 2 miles from Nancy Guthrie's Arizona home does not have any matches in the national database known as CODIS, and doesn't match DNA found at Guthrie's home, either, Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos says. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nancy Guthrie kidnapping DNA results and family cleared  A glove believed to match the one worn by the masked suspect was recovered near the home. Inside it — male DNA. But here's the shocker: It produced NO MATCH in CODIS — the national criminal database. And even more important: The DNA on the glove does NOT match the DNA found inside the house. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On this Wednesday edition of Sid & Friends in the Morning, Sid covers Mayor Mamdani's proposed $127 billion NYC spending plan and $5.4 billion budget gap, warning of a possible 9.5% property tax increase if Albany won't approve an election-year tax hike on wealthy residents and corporations; Hillary Clinton accusing the Trump administration of a coverup and slow-walking and redacting Jeffrey Epstein files as she prepares for a House Oversight Committee deposition, while the White House says Trump was exonerated and argues it has released millions of files; an update on Arizona disappearance case Nancy Guthrie, where DNA on gloves found two miles from her home produced no CODIS match and will undergo genetic genealogy testing as investigators lack a leading motive theory; Stephen Colbert saying a planned interview with Democratic Texas Senate candidate James Talarico was not allowed to air due to legal concerns about the FCC equal time rule, with CBS disputing that characterization and Colbert posting the interview online; and Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band announcing a 19-show North American arena tour, including Madison Square Garden and UBS Arena, titled the “Land of Hope and Dreams American Tour,” starting next month in Minneapolis. Charles Gasparino, Julie Menin, K.T. McFarland, Riley Gaines, Samuel Hartstein & Scott LoBaido join Sid on this hump day installment of Sid & Friends in the Morning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The DNA results are in — and the evidence everyone was betting on just came up empty. On day 18 of the Nancy Guthrie disappearance, the Pima County Sheriff's Department confirmed that DNA from the black glove found two miles from Nancy's home returned zero hits in CODIS, the FBI's national criminal database. No match among 26 million profiles. Worse, the glove DNA doesn't match the separate DNA profile recovered from inside Nancy's residence. Two unknowns. Neither in the system.But on today's True Crime Today, we're asking the question nobody else will: Was this glove ever actually significant evidence? A generic disposable black glove found on a desert roadside, visually compared to blurry night-vision footage — that's what the entire media ecosystem elevated to the defining lead in a national kidnapping case. These gloves come in bulk packs of 500. They're everywhere. And even Sheriff Nanos is hedging, calling the home DNA "more critical" than anything found two miles away.We break down the investigative timeline and the hard questions emerging on day 18. Why is Google only now being asked to recover footage from additional cameras on Nancy's property? That request should have been hour one, not week three. Why is the home DNA still being processed while the roadside glove got fast-tracked? And what does it mean that FBI agents walked into a Tucson gun store with a printed photo lineup of 18 to 24 individuals — checking firearm purchase records — while Sheriff Nanos publicly denies narrowing the suspect pool?Investigators have confirmed they're moving to genetic genealogy, the technique that identified Bryan Kohberger. BlueFly pacemaker-detection technology has been deployed for over two weeks with no results. The family continues to plead publicly. Fifty thousand tips and counting. The effort is real. Whether the pace matches the stakes is the conversation we're having today.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #TrueCrimeToday #CODIS #DNAEvidence #FBIInvestigation #GeneticGenealogy #TucsonArizona #MissingPersons #PimaCountySheriffJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

A retired FBI behavioral expert delivers a full-scope analysis of the Nancy Guthrie investigation — the suspect's behavioral contradictions, the sheriff's documented missteps and public contradictions, and what the complete absence of proof of life means fifteen days in. The FBI flagged specific January surveillance windows. The suspect knew the target but brought amateur gear and left facial hair exposed. Inside the investigation, the crime scene was released and resecured, searchers contaminated the glove evidence, DNA was routed to a Florida lab over FBI objections, and investigators inside the case can't identify who's in charge. DNA from a matching glove is entering CODIS. The ransom trail has insider details but zero follow-through. No one has collected payment. This interview puts every thread together and asks the hard questions about what breaks this case — and what the silence means.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #NancyGuthrieMissing #SheriffNanos #CODIS #TrueCrimeToday #TrueCrime #FBIInvestigation #TucsonKidnapping #RansomNoteJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

Eighteen days after 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie was taken from her home in the Catalina Foothills outside Tucson, the evidence the nation was banking on just came back empty. DNA recovered from a black glove found two miles from Nancy's home produced no matches in CODIS, the FBI's national database of over 26 million offender profiles. But the bigger problem isn't the miss — it's the fact that this glove was never the evidence everyone pretended it was.A generic disposable glove found on a desert roadside, visually compared to grainy black-and-white Nest camera footage, elevated to the centerpiece of a national investigation. And now we know the DNA on the glove doesn't even match the DNA found inside Nancy's home. Two separate unknown male profiles. Two dead ends. Meanwhile, the evidence Sheriff Chris Nanos himself says is more critical — biological material recovered from inside the residence — still hasn't been fully processed for database submission.The Pima County Sheriff's Department confirmed investigators are now pursuing genetic genealogy, the same technique that cracked the Bryan Kohberger case. But genealogy takes weeks, sometimes months. For an 84-year-old woman who requires daily medication and has a pacemaker, that timeline is a luxury she may not have.While the glove dominated headlines, a far more significant development went largely unnoticed. A Tucson gun store owner revealed that FBI agents visited his shop with printed pages showing 18 to 24 individuals — photographs and names — asking him to check firearm purchase records. The agent's list featured men with similar physical characteristics matching the suspect profile from the doorbell footage. Yet on Tuesday, Sheriff Nanos publicly denied that investigators have narrowed the suspect pool. The contradiction between what's happening on the ground and what's being said at press conferences tells its own story.Perhaps the most troubling revelation: investigators are only now asking Google to attempt recovery of footage from additional cameras on Nancy's property. The front door camera was recovered from backend systems within the first two weeks. A driveway angle showing a vehicle could change this case overnight. That request should have been made before dawn on February 1st, not discussed publicly as a hopeful possibility on day 18. Parsons Corporation has confirmed its BlueFly sensor technology has been scanning for Nancy's pacemaker signal since February 3rd — by air, by ground, on foot — with no results. Forty to fifty thousand tips. Multiple warrants. Zero arrests. The effort is there. Whether the urgency has matched the moment is a different question entirely.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #CODIS #DNAEvidence #TucsonKidnapping #PimaCountySheriff #GeneticGenealogy #FBIInvestigation #TrueCrime #HiddenKillersJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

A retired FBI behavioral expert breaks down the full scope of the Nancy Guthrie case in one interview. The FBI targeted specific January dates in footage requests — suggesting digital evidence already in hand. The suspect knew the target but brought cheap gear and left identifying features exposed. Nancy's predictable routine and employed staff created multiple intelligence access points. Inside the investigation, the sheriff contradicted himself on crime scene handling, searchers contaminated the evidence field, DNA was routed away from Quantico over FBI objections, and investigators told reporters they can't identify a command structure. A male DNA profile from a matching glove is entering CODIS. Cell towers and Walmart records are being analyzed. But through fifteen days, two missed deadlines, and a family publicly offering to pay — no proof of life, no direct contact, no arrest. This interview covers every dimension of the case and asks the hardest questions.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #NancyGuthrieMissing #SheriffNanos #CODIS #FBIInvestigation #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #TucsonKidnapping #RobinDreekeJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

Update on what is happening on day 17 of Nancy Guthrie's disappearance. We are still waiting on DNA to come back so it can be ran through CODIS.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/pretty-lies-and-alibis--4447192/support.ALL MERCH 10% off with code Sherlock10 at checkout  - NEW STYLES Donate: (Thank you for your support! Couldn't do what I love without all y'all) PayPal - paypal.com/paypalme/prettyliesandalibisVenmo - @prettyliesalibisBuy Me A Coffee - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/prettyliesrCash App- PrettyliesandalibisAll links: https://linktr.ee/prettyliesandalibisMerch: prettyliesandalibis.myshopify.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/PrettyLiesAndAlibis(Weekly lives and private message board)

DNA results are in for the glove. What's next?Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/pretty-lies-and-alibis--4447192/support.ALL MERCH 10% off with code Sherlock10 at checkout  - NEW STYLES Donate: (Thank you for your support! Couldn't do what I love without all y'all) PayPal - paypal.com/paypalme/prettyliesandalibisVenmo - @prettyliesalibisBuy Me A Coffee - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/prettyliesrCash App- PrettyliesandalibisAll links: https://linktr.ee/prettyliesandalibisMerch: prettyliesandalibis.myshopify.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/PrettyLiesAndAlibis(Weekly lives and private message board)

The FBI has a male DNA profile from a glove matching the suspect's — and it's going into CODIS. A retired FBI behavioral expert breaks down what a match means operationally, what happens if there's no hit, and why existing cheek swabs from people of interest could produce a name before the national database search even finishes. Meanwhile, the ransom communication pattern is raising its own questions. The first note reportedly contained insider details. Every demand since has gone to media — never the family. Two deadlines expired. The Guthries offered to pay on camera. Nobody collected. No proof of life in fifteen days. Pacemaker searches have produced no signal. Nancy hasn't had her heart medication since January 31st. This interview asks what the evidence threads need to produce and what the silence is actually telling investigators about who they're dealing with.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #CODIS #DNAEvidence #NancyGuthrieMissing #TrueCrimeToday #TrueCrime #RansomNote #FBISearch #TucsonKidnappingJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

The Nancy Guthrie case just collided with presidential politics, forensic science, and an evidence-handling controversy that has exposed deep fractures between local and federal investigators.A black glove found two miles from Nancy's Tucson home contains DNA from an unknown male. The FBI says it matches the gloves worn by the masked suspect on doorbell footage from the morning she disappeared. That profile is being prepared for CODIS entry. A match could break this case. No match means forensic genealogy — and a timeline an 84-year-old woman without her medication cannot afford.President Trump told the New York Post Monday he would direct the Justice Department to seek the death penalty if Nancy is found dead. The family has spent sixteen days telling the suspect it's never too late to do the right thing. Those messages are now directly at odds.The evidence war between Sheriff Chris Nanos and the FBI reached a turning point. After federal sources accused Nanos of blocking the FBI from processing the glove at Quantico and routing evidence to a private Florida lab, the sheriff's department on Monday told media to direct all DNA questions to the FBI. Othram, the forensic genealogy company behind the Bryan Kohberger identification, publicly called the evidence routing devastating.A CBS 5 inside source says investigators believe this was a burglary gone wrong — not an intended kidnapping. Both agencies denied the report. But former FBI behavioral expert Robin Dreeke has identified amateur markers in the porch footage across multiple interviews on this show. The behavioral evidence has been building toward this conclusion for two weeks.The family has been cleared as suspects. Helicopters with signal sniffers are scanning for Nancy's pacemaker. And this case now hinges on a DNA profile and a federal database.#NancyGuthrie #TrumpDeathPenalty #SavannahGuthrie #CODIS #DNAEvidence #SheriffNanos #FBIInvestigation #BurglaryTheory #PimaCountySheriff #TrueCrimeTodayJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

The DNA from a glove matching the suspect's is going into CODIS. The FBI's cell tower team is mapping every phone near Nancy's home during the critical windows. Walmart records are being cross-referenced. Cheek swabs from people of interest already exist. A retired FBI behavioral expert walks through every active thread that could produce a name — and confronts what the ransom silence actually means. The first note to KOLD reportedly contained details only someone with inside knowledge would have. But every demand since has gone to media outlets. Two deadlines passed. The family offered to pay. No one collected. No proof of life in fifteen days. Pacemaker helicopters have found no signal in eleven days of searching. This interview asks the question the audience needs answered — what breaks this case and what does the silence tell us?#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #CODIS #DNAEvidence #NancyGuthrieMissing #RansomNote #FBISearch #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #TucsonKidnappingJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

One glove. Unknown male DNA. And an investigation that just shifted beneath the surface.Sixteen days after Nancy Guthrie was taken from her Catalina Foothills home, the FBI confirmed that a glove found two miles away contains a DNA profile matching the gloves worn by the suspect in the doorbell footage. That profile is headed to CODIS — but there's no guarantee it returns a name. If the suspect has never been arrested and swabbed, the database returns nothing, and investigators are left with forensic genealogy timelines Nancy may not survive.The evidence handling has been a disaster. Federal sources say Sheriff Nanos blocked the FBI from processing the glove at Quantico. Nanos denies it. The forensic genealogy company Othram called the decision devastating. On Monday, the sheriff's department quietly redirected all evidence questions to the FBI.A CBS 5 reporter says an inside source believes this was a burglary gone wrong. Both agencies denied it. But Robin Dreeke has been reading amateur behavioral markers in the footage on this show for two weeks. Jeff Bennett raised the burglary theory on Day 4 of our coverage. The behavioral evidence was already there.Trump threatened the death penalty Monday. The family has been saying it's never too late to come forward. Those two messages cannot coexist.Helicopters are scanning the desert with signal sniffers trying to detect Nancy's pacemaker. It went silent at 2:28 AM on February 1st and hasn't reconnected. The family has been officially cleared. And the entire case may now ride on whether a glove on a roadside holds enough to identify the person who wore it.#NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #CODIS #DNAEvidence #SheriffNanos #RobinDreeke #BurglaryTheory #FBIInvestigation #TucsonKidnapping #TrueCrimeJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.