Podcasts about Hiking

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by LMNT, we are joined by Jeremy Phoenix aka Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen, aka Javos, a Navajo-born, Amish-country-raised, REI-employed, grave-digging, Princeton-attending thru-hiker who completed the Colorado Trail in 15 days on his first ever backpacking trip and has been making up for lost time ever since.  In this one, Smitty walks us through completing the 24-hour challenge three separate times on the PCT, a free solo fall from 35 feet- that he just kind of walked off, getting stalked by a mountain lion, surviving shin splints for almost the full PCT, and a harrowing midnight ice traverse below Mount Whitney with no traction. He also shares what it means to be Navajo in America, including having code talker grandparents and introducing himself to the land before every new section of trail.  We wrap the show with a tribute to longtime Patreon supporter Bill Jensen, who recently passed away on the CDT, the biggest thru-hiking preparation mistake- according to Peg Leg, addressing the question of which direction people predominantly face in the shower, and the triple crown of things you can easily live without but nonetheless should be free for everyone. LMNT: Get a free sample pack with any order at drinklmnt.com/trek. Gossamer Gear: Use code "BACKPACKERRADIO" for $20 off LT5 Trekking Poles at gossamergear.com.  Shady Rays: Use code "TREK" for 40% off two or more pairs of sunglasses at shadyrays.com. [divider] Interview with Jeremy Barney aka Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen Jeremy's Instagram Jeremy's Youtube Time stamps & Questions 00:06:30 - Reminders: Sign up for the Trek's newsletter, subscribe to Trail Correspondents, and  listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon! 00:09:18 - Introducing Smitty 00:10:34 - Tell us about the 24 hour challenges you've done on the PCT 00:13:00 - How did you get your trail name? 00:16:25 - Tell us about the commercial you did with Alex Hannold 00:22:30 - Tell us about working at REI 00:29:50 - Tell us about growing up Navajo in Pennsylvania 00:35:30 - How did you get started with backpacking? 00:39:00 - Discussion about Smitty's climbing experience and falls 00:42:50 - What is your bucket list of jobs? 00:50:50 - Discussion about Smitty's job as a gravedigger 00:54:15 - How did you decide to hike the Colorado Trail? 01:03:00 - Tell us about the backpacks you've tried 01:08:35 - Discussion about what Smitty sent home from the PCT 01:15:00 - What other gear compromises did you have to make when switching packs? 01:28:55 - What kind of discounts do you get at REI? 01:34:50 - Tell us about meeting Jabba 01:39:00 - Discussion about footwear and injuries 01:41:30 - What was your scariest day on trail? 01:51:40 - Do you have any advice for aspiring thru-hikers? 01:58:00 - Stay Salty Question: What's your hottest take in the world of backpacking? Segments Tribute to Bill Jensen Trek Propaganda: After 22,000 Miles of Thru-Hiking, This Is One of the Biggest Mistakes I See Beginners Make by Peg Leg QOTD: Do people face the shower head when they shower? Triple Crown of things you can easily live without, but nonetheless should be free for everyone Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee. Sign up for the Trek's newsletter Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "The Snail" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, Dakota J, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lloyd Harris, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.

https://slasrpodcast.com/     Welcome to episode 237 of the sounds like a search and rescue podcast. This week, Stomp joins us as we catch up with our friend Dave for an update on his Appalachian trail adventures. Plus a close call on franconia ridge Friday night - two separate groups faced cold conditions, rain and hypothermia coming down Greenleaf and old bridal trails. Plus recent hikes - Nick hikes Osceolas via East pond loop and included bushwhacks out to middle and west Osceolo, Mike takes a 17 mile Pemi River Traverse from Lincoln Woods out to Ethan Pond, all this plus notable hike of the week, dad jokes and more, im mike, im nick and im stomp - lets get started.  Check out Lori's YouTube Channel - Lori Goes Hiking  Topics Welcome back Stomp, Intros - Dave, Lori, Liz Stomp Deep Dive  Franconia Ridge Rescues from Friday June 19th Fee increases in NH Car Racing on MT. Washington Bear Safety Bike Week Dad Jokes Pop Culture Recent Hike - Nick on the Osceolas  Recent Hike - Mike on a Pemi River Traverse  Welcome Dave, Lori and Liz - Reflections on AT thru hike Georgia to PA and looking ahead to New England   Show Notes Apple Podcast link for 5 star reviews SLASR Merchandise SLASR LinkTree SLASR's BUYMEACOFFEE Order Hike Safe Card  48 Peaks website  Nick's Instagram Rescuee apologizes for triggering an intense Rescue on Mt. Lafayette. F&G article F&G propose fee increases but governor not onboard Car racing comes to Auto Road this August Unprotected Poultry and Birdfeeders Continue to Cause Human–Bear Conflicts in New Hampshire 103rd Motorcycle Weeks wraps up with lowered attendance, safety concerns     Sponsors, Friends  and Partners Rek' lis Brewing Company Wild Raven Endurance Coaching burgeonoutdoor.com 48 Peaks - Alzheimer's Association Mount Washington Higher Summits Forecast Hiking Buddies  Vaucluse - Sweat less. Explore more. – Vaucluse Gear Fieldstone Kombucha CS Instant Coffee The Mountain Wanderer

In this episode, we cover a simple set of questions you can ask yourself if you are eyeing off a big hiking adventure and are wondering, "Am I actually on track to be ready?" == Want to get fit, strong and resilient for your hiking adventures? Check out the Online Summit Program: https://www.summitstrength.com.au/online.html  

A proposal to connect counties in Northern Kentucky through trails and cycling infrastructure was presented Wednesday.

This week I'm in Berlin, walking through the Neue Nationalgalerie. A tour of German expressionist paintings and 20th century history This week I'm in Berlin, walking through the Neue Nationalgalerie. A tour of German expressionist paintings and 20th century history. Thumbnail image is Potsdamer Platz by Ludwig Kirchner Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Meet Helen Spencer, a veterinarian from Kent who swapped clinic life for the extremes of the world. From hiking in Afghanistan, Mongolia, and Yemen to caring for orangutans in Borneo, Helen has chased adventure across the globe. In this episode, she shares her journey to ski the last degree to the South Pole, including: Training, kit prep, and polar skills courses The physical and mental challenges of long polar expeditions Coping with loss, vulnerability, and finding strength on the ice Lessons in perseverance, confidence, and small steps toward big dreams Helen's story is a testament to courage, resilience, and pursuing your goals—even when the journey is long and demanding. ***  New episodes of the Tough Girl Podcast drop every Tuesday at 7 AM (UK time)! Make sure to subscribe so you never miss the inspiring journeys and incredible stories of tough women pushing boundaries.  Do you want to support the Tough Girl Mission to increase the amount of female role models in the media in the world of adventure and physical challenges? Support via Patreon! Join me in making a difference by signing up here: www.patreon.com/toughgirlpodcast.  Your support makes a difference.  Thank you x *** Show notes Who is Helen Being based in Kent Growing up on a farm and having a lot of freedom  Becoming a vet Wanting more adventure  Working for the charity: World Wide Veterinary Service  In her free time loving to travel  Leaving school and travelling with her backpack, and staying in hostels  Starting to do a few solo and group expeditions Hiking in Afganistan, Madagascar, Mongolia, Yemen, Palestine, North Korea Recently skiing the last degree of the South Pole   Building her confidence with travelling  Earning enough money to go f www.interrail.eu/en Having a budget of £10 per day Spending time in Borneo looking after Orangutans Being a shy, farm kid growing up and being better with animals than people  Having 5 years at university  Having a neighbour who had a zoo and spending time helping out at the zoo Knowing what she wanted to do when she was 5 Building internal confidence  Hiking in Afganistan's Wakhan Corridor   Why expedition are about the people you meet as well as where you go Getting the balance right between being social enough but also having time for herself  Needing time out and making sure she has her own tent Having a 10 day tolerance on expeditions  Her goal to ski to the the pole in Antarctica and where the dream came from  Being fascinated by polar history  A week long polar skills course in Finse, Norway  Needing a challenge - being in bad mental and physical health  Taking some time out after selling her veterinarian clinic in London Having a year to get in shape  Training at the Altitude Centre in London  Not being able to test her kit Receiving a lot of help and advice  Heading to Loughborough Elite Sports Centre to have her fitness tested  Dr Amelia Rudd  Heading over to Antarctica and what it was like  Antarctic Logistics Expeditions (ALE) Being out on the ice and why it was like being out on the open ocean  Pulling the pulk at altitude on the ice  Why it was a physical challenge but also a mental challenge  Her way of coping with difficulties  Wanting to feel small  Being there mid summer, when the sun never sets. Rainbows and halos forming around the sun Being able to move forward after the challenge Trying to cope with the loss of her parents in an accident, 2 weeks before she was due to be married  Being in a dark place  Coping by being on her own and doing physical endurance  Wanting to be broken down and feel vulnerable  Getting to the pole and why it was hugely emotional  Why it meant everything to her  Kick on Fundraising £20K in memory of her mum who had Parkinson's Gaining confidence, a bit more self assurance and pride.   Spending 3 weeks in Antarctica, and skiing for 8 days  Tent life… Going to the loo! Code Brown! Pooing in a bag and packing out your poo. The worst bit of the expedition and having to leave your warm sleeping bag How to connect with Helen on Social Media  Final words of advice Some dreams can take time Taking small steps and trying the thing you want to do Her mantras in life…. "Don't be a dick to yourself", "Don't be a dick to others" and Don't be a dick with our environment"    Social Media Instagram: @adventure_vet_spence  Justgiving: www.justgiving.com/page/helen-spencer-1728903029666

I spent years thinking I needed more motivation, but the truth is my brain was simply doing its job: avoiding discomfort. In this episode, I break down why so many women stay stuck in the start-over cycle, how pain avoidance disguises itself as procrastination, and the mindset shift that changes everything. If you've struggled to follow through on your health goals, this episode will help you stop negotiating with discomfort and start creating lasting change. Mountain Metabolic Coaching [Application Link] — Fat loss, body recomposition, nutrition, hormones, performance, all with full 1:1 coach support. Fit For Hiking Guides  — Workouts to get you trail-ready.More Resources — Wellness tips, hiking + travel guides, and blogs.Shop My Favorite Gear — Amazon storefrontFit For Hiking Instagram Bradee Instagram 

A quiet evening hike through Hueston Woods State Park in Ohio left Olivia with more questions than answers.While exploring the Big Woods Trail near sunset, she noticed unusual tree formations, a sudden silence in the forest, rustling movement off the trail, and an overwhelming feeling that something was watching her. The experience stayed with her long after she returned home. When she reviewed her footage, she discovered something unexpected hidden among the trees.The story didn't end there.A BFRO investigator later visited the location and reportedly found large footprints near the same area. Olivia returned multiple times herself, uncovering additional tracks and gathering more evidence from a location that may hold a history of unexplained activity.She also shares an earlier nighttime experience from the same park near Acton Lake, where an unseen presence moved through dense vegetation and appeared to approach her position after dark.Could these events be connected? What is happening in one of Ohio's most popular state parks?Join us as Olivia shares her firsthand experiences from Hueston Woods and explains why she plans to continue searching for answers.Resources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRg6WxTF2yA&t=1543s

The RV industry is chasing the wrong generation. While manufacturers court 30-somethings with outdoor TVs and influencer campaigns, the buyers who are actually writing checks right now look nothing like the people in the ads.Last week I sat around a campfire in Hocking Hills, Ohio with 88 members of our RVCommunity. I asked how many had bought a new RV in the past year. Eleven hands went up. A 12th would have, but he was out on a six-mile hike. He was turning 70.That tells you everything the sales charts do not.In this episode we dig into who is really driving the RV market right now, what experienced RVers actually want that manufacturers keep missing, the quiet but alarming shift happening in our national parks, and a dramatic rescue on the Appalachian Trail that is a reminder of exactly why preparation matters out there.Read the companion blog post on RVing in the second half of life at RVLifestyle.com - link below.Here is the complete episode, start to finish.THE RV PODCAST - MONDAY NEWS EDITION Episode Air Date: Monday, June 23, 2026 - 6:00 AM Approx. Running Time: 25 Minutes Host: Mike WendlandTHE LAST GENERATION THAT KNOWS HOW TO TRAVEL ...and why the RV industry keeps ignoring themOPENLast week I was sitting around a campfire in Hocking Hills, Ohio, with about 50 members of our RVCommunity.com.I asked a simple question: how many of you have bought a brand new RV in the last year?Eleven hands went up. A 12th would have, but he was out on a six-mile sunset hike - and he was turning 70 that summer.This was happening while the RV industry is posting some of the worst wholesale shipment numbers in over a decade.Which raises a question the people running this industry ought to be asking themselves: who exactly are they building RVs for?Because I can tell you who is actually buying them. And they look nothing like the people in the ads.OPENINGGood morning and welcome to the RV Podcast Monday News Edition. I'm Mike Wendland.Eighteen Emmy Awards. Thirty-plus years covering everything from wars to the White House to consumer affairs. And for the past 15 years, living the RV lifestyle myself with my wife Jennifer in every type of rig you can imagine, coast to coast, all 48 contiguous states.Today's show is a little different. Instead of leading with a breaking story, I want to start with something I witnessed firsthand that I believe tells you more about the real state of the RV market than any press release you will read this year.And if you want to go deeper after you listen, I have been writing about this topic at RVLifestyle.com for the past several weeks. We have been exploring what it means to RV in the second half of life - the freedom, the community, the mindset, and yes, the ways the industry keeps getting it wrong. There is a link in the show notes. I think you will recognize yourself in it.Here is what is happening on the road. And here is what the industry is getting wrong. Let's get into it.LEAD STORY: THE LAST GENERATION THAT KNOWS HOW TO TRAVELThe RV industry is having a rough year. A really rough year. And the numbers tell the story fast, so let me give them to you and move on, because the real story is not the numbers. The real story is who is still out there buying and camping while those numbers grind downward.Wholesale shipments are down more than 13 percent through the first four months of 2026. Retail sales off 14 to 15 percent from last year. The industry's own forecast, just revised downward again this month, now projects this as one of the worst years for new RV sales in over a decade.So who is still buying?Here is what I can tell you from 15 years in this world and from what I saw last week in Hocking Hills. The people who are still writing checks for new RVs, right now, in the worst market in a decade, are the people the industry seems most determined to pretend do not exist.Baby Boomers. Older Gen Xers. People who grew up reading paper maps. Making reservations by phone. Talking to strangers when they got lost. Fixing things with their hands. Navigating real uncertainty with nothing but experience and nerve.According to industry research, Americans 50 and older remain the primary customer segment for RVs. Many are retirees fulfilling long-held travel dreams, and that population is still growing as the tail end of the baby boom ages into retirement. These are people with home equity, disposable income, and something even more valuable: the time and the confidence to actually use what they buy.And yet when you look at the ads. When you watch the Go RVing campaigns. When you walk the floor of any major RV show and look at the marketing materials stacked at the booths. You see toned and trendy 30-year-olds doing yoga on the roof of a Class B. You see influencers with ring lights and perfect hair. What you do not see is the 68-year-old retired engineer who just dropped $95,000 on a new fifth wheel and is headed to Alaska.That is a real blind spot. And I think it is costing the industry real money.Here is what I saw at our Hocking Hills rally. Eighty-eight people, ranging from their 50s into their 80s. Riding bikes and e-bikes and scooters. Hiking up and down some of the most spectacular terrain in the Midwest. One of our members, a retired RV technician, got under a fellow member's trailer and repacked the wheel bearings on the spot. Another couple spent an afternoon giving scooter lessons to anyone who wanted to learn.Nobody was stuck. Nobody was panicking. When something broke, someone fixed it. When someone needed help, someone helped them. These are people who grew up problem-solving before there was an app for it. And they brought every one of those skills out here.I asked how many had bought a new RV in the past year. Eleven hands went up. Twelve if you count the man who was out on a six-mile hike at 70 years old.This is happening while the industry chases 33-year-olds with solar panels and TikTok aesthetics.I am not saying younger buyers are not important. They are the future and we need them. But the marketing case being made inside RV boardrooms right now, that the 50-plus buyer is yesterday's news, is demonstrably wrong. And in a market this soft, you cannot afford to ignore your most reliable customer.I wrote about this at length over at RVLifestyle.com. It is part of an ongoing series we have been running on RVing in the second half of life. The link is in the show notes. If today's lead story speaks to you, that post will too.STORY 2: WHO IS ACTUALLY DRIVING THE MARKETThe demographic picture of who owns and buys RVs is more complicated than the ads suggest, and it is worth understanding.The median age of RV owners has come down in recent years. Younger buyers were absolutely part of the pandemic surge. Millennials and Gen Z now represent roughly 22 percent of RV owners - the same share as Baby Boomers - which tells you something about how quickly the demographics shifted during COVID.But here is what the industry sometimes misses in that data. Younger buyers came in during a period of historically low interest rates, flush pandemic savings, and work-from-home flexibility. Those conditions no longer exist. The buyers who are proving most resilient in this market are the ones who are not dependent on 7 percent financing to make the purchase work.Industry analyst Earl Hunter Jr., founder of The Unity Folks, put it bluntly in a recent trade publication outlook piece. He said the biggest trend in the RV industry right now is, simply, lack of growth. And that the industry has not figured out why emerging demographics and nontraditional consumers have little to no interest in the RV lifestyle.That is a real problem worth solving. But while the industry works on reaching new audiences, there is a generation of experienced, well-capitalized, deeply motivated buyers out on the road right now who built this market and are still carrying it. They deserve a little more respect than a supporting role in someone else's marketing story.STORY 3: WHAT EXPERIENCED RVers ACTUALLY WANT - AND WHAT MANUFACTURERS KEEP MISSINGI want to tell you one more thing from Hocking Hills, because I think it reveals something important about the disconnect between what the industry is building and what experienced RVers actually need.During our campfire conversation, I asked people what features they most use in their current rigs. What do they love. What they would change.Nobody mentioned outdoor TVs. Not one person. This is notable because outdoor entertainment has been one of the most aggressively marketed RV features of the last several years. Manufacturers have been loading up rigs with outdoor TVs, outdoor kitchens, outdoor speakers. The assumption is that RVers want to recreate the suburban living room experience outside.Our members were out hiking six miles. They were packed into a campfire circle talking to each other. They were fixing each other's trailers. The last thing they wanted was a television.What did they talk about wanting? Better towing stability. Improved service networks. Simpler systems that do not require a software update to turn on the hot water. Quality that lasts. And dealers who actually know the products they are selling.These are people with decades of RV miles behind them. They know exactly what they need and exactly what they do not. When you have that kind of experience, you stop being impressed by features and start being impressed by reliability.The industry could learn a lot by listening more carefully to the people who have been doing this the longest....

Looking for incredible mountain views, quiet trails, and total solitude in Oklahoma? In this episode of the Only in OK Show, we are taking you deep into the Ouachita National Forest to explore a true hidden treasure: The Robert S. Kerr Arboretum, Memorial Nature Center, and Botanical Area. Tucked inside a massive 8,026-acre preserve, this tranquil spot is the perfect alternative to busier Oklahoma state parks. Located right off the famous Talimena National Scenic Byway (State Highway 1), just east of U.S. Highway 259 near Heavener and Talihina, the breathtaking ridge-line vistas start before you even arrive. Whether you are a casual hiker, a bird watcher, a trail runner, or a photographer, the Kerr Nature Center offers a perfect day trip into wild, raw Oklahoma nature. What We Cover in This Episode: The 3-Mile Interpretive Loop: We break down the easy-to-moderate, 1-hour walk that gives you a snapshot of an entire mountain ecosystem. Trail 1: The Plant Identifier: Spot unique native flora like dwarf white oaks, yellow buckeye, and the rare Ouachita indigo. Trail 2: The Struggle for Survival: Learn the fascinating story of how forest trees compete against nature to survive. Trail 3: The Foundation: Discover the soil science that drives the life cycle of the entire Ouachita forest. Nearby Must-Sees: How to pair your hike with stops at the Castle Rock Vista and the State Line Monument. Know Before You Go: Tips on amenities (flush toilets are available, but it's largely undeveloped), regulations (no mountain bikes, hang gliders, or motorized vehicles), and why it's worth visiting all 365 days a year. Have you ever driven the Talimena Scenic Byway and stopped at the Kerr Nature Center? We want to hear about your experience! Leave a comment on our website or reach out on social media. Also discussed: Think Ability Inc. - Oklahoma Tourism and Recreation Department - OKC - Route 66 Love the show? Don't forget to hit Subscribe or Follow so you never miss another deep dive into Oklahoma's best-hidden treasures!  

On this episode of Japan Station, we're joined by the first confirmed American to climb Japan's "100 famous mountains" (hyakumēzan, 百名山): Wes Lang. We also talk about his experiences climbing Japan's tallest mountains and more.

¡¡Bienvenid@s a Mochileros!! Ya estamos de vuelta (por fin) con un nuevo programa de Mochileros Podcast y regresamos a la península para sentarnos tranquilamente y charlar con Kekar respecto la seguridad en la montaña, ya que, en muchas ocasiones no llegamos a ser conscientes siquiera de estar asumiendo riesgos innecesarios. Afortunadamente, no todo tienen que ser desgracias y dramas ya que el bueno de Kekar, en sus redes, le da una vueltita de tuerca a estas situaciones, para poderlas analizar, al menos con una sonrisa en la cara, pero si perder el objetivo, que no es otro que el de formarnos y ser conscientes de que estamos asumiendo un riesgo. Coged vuestros bastones que empezamos!!! +Más formas de contacto con Kekar: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kekar_mountainguide/ Tik-tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kekar_tariq Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/Kekar_Mountainguide Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Kekar_Tariq *Canal de Youtube de Paco va de hormigas: https://www.youtube.com/@VadeHormigas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ + Enlace de referidos a la web del CLUB DEL GPS . com: https://clubdelgps.com/mochileros ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ + Programa en Spotify: MOCHILEROS PODCAST SM + La música de Mochileros podcast: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6ZFjhE50vqOdkklXmVoqXW?si=af395167a586491e +Weblog del Podcast: https://mochilerosoficial.wixsite.com/podcast + Grupo de Telegram de Mochileros Podcast: t.me/Mochileros_Podcast Puedes encontrarnos en iVoox, en iTunes, en Spotify, en Youtube y en tu podcatcher favorito. mail: mochilerosoficial@gmail.com twitter: @mochileros_ofi instagram:@mochilerosoficial facebook: mochilerospodcast Foto de cabecera: 9 César Moro

Hike with a geek day. Entertainment from 1965I . West Virginia became 35th state, Alaska pipeline started pumping, last battle of American Revolution. Todays birthdays - Audie Murphy, Martin Landau, Olympia Dukakis, John Mahoney, Brian Wilson, Anne Murray, Lionel Richie, John Goodman, Nicole Kidman. Jack Kirby died.Intro - God did good - Dianna Corcoran   https://www.diannacorcoran.com/I'm Happy when I'm Hiking - Ralph Butler & Raymond WallaceI can't help myself - Four TopsBefore you go - Buck OwensBirthday - The BeatlesBirthdays - In da club - 50 Cent http://50cent.com/Frasier TV themeSurfin - Beach BoysSnowbird - Anne MurrayAll night long - Lionel RichieExit - Wild rag vodka night - Pat Waters https://www.patwaters.com/History & Factoids about today Playlist on SpotifyHistory & Factoids about today webpagecooolmedia.comcountryundergroundradio.comNational Days - May Puzzle BookGrace & Grit Christian Country Radio

WBUR's Morning Edition host Tiziana Dearing ventures into the woods to find a lost piece of Boston's history with Miles Howard, designer of the new Boston Boundless trail.

In this timely episode, Chris discusses the best ways to avoid becoming a statistic while hiking during desert heat waves. He also points out that the vast majority of people suffering injury and death from extreme heat have little other choice. Migrants, the incarcerated, and outdoor labor all face serious threats from hot weather, with little recourse to protect themselves. That's why state and federal protections for workers and the incarcerated are so crucial. Notable Quotes: "Heat turns minor mistakes into fatal mistakes." "Testosterone is not an electrolyte replacement." Incarcerated people dying from heat injury is a frequent and growing problem that is not tracked in any methodical way." "Hug your dogs." Resources: Podcast Website: 90 Miles from Needles PO Box for Donations and Support: P.O. Box 127, 29 Palms, CA 92277 New analysis provides more evidence that heat standards save lives Leading Healthcare and Public Health Organizations Call for Federal Government to Fast-Track Rules to Protect Workers from Worsening Extreme Heat American Hiking Society's Hot Weather Hiking Guide Become a desert defender!: https://90milesfromneedles.com/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Segments Lyme Disease Update Trek Propaganda: 2026 Hiking Gear Trends, And Whether I Think They're Actually Worth It by Livvy Weld QOTD: Would you rather have one raccoon know all your secrets and occasionally hint at them or one goose publicly overreact to everything you do? Stupid Thing of the Week Triple Crown of gear you can find that's girly Mail Bag 5 Star Review [divider] Check out our sound guy @my_boy_pauly/ and his coffee. Sign up for the Trek's newsletter Leave us a voicemail! Subscribe to this podcast on iTunes (and please leave us a review)!  Find us on Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play. Support us on Patreon to get bonus content. Advertise on Backpacker Radio Follow The Trek, Chaunce, Badger, and Trail Correspondents on Instagram. Follow Backpacker Radio, The Trek and Chaunce on YouTube. Follow Backpacker Radio on Tik Tok.  Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years. A super big thank you to our Bob Peoples Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Alex Kindle, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Bill Jensen, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Bret Mullins aka Cruizy, Bryan Alsop, Carl Lobstah Houde, Christopher Marshburn, Clint Sitler, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Ethan Harwell, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg Martin, Griffin Haywood, Hailey Buckingham, Jackson Storm, JaredNotFromSubway, Jason Kiser, Jason "The Snail" Snailer, Luke Netjes, Matty in AZ, Patrick Cianciolo, Randy Sutherland, Rebecca Brave, Rural Juror, Sawyer Products, The Saint Louis Shaman, Timothy Hahn, Tracy 'Trigger' Fawns A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: Bells, Benjy Lowry, Bonnie Ackerman, Brett Vandiver, Chris Pyle, Dakota J, David Neal, Dcnerdlet, Denise Krekeler, Jack Greene, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Lloyd Harris, Merle Watkins, Peter, Quenten Jones, Ruth S, Salt Stain, Sloan Alberhasky, and Tyler Powers.

Erin Ton holds over 200 FKTs (Fastest Known Times). In 2023, she returned to the mountains where she first hiked with her family as a child, and summited 57 of Colorado's Fourteeners in 14 days, smashing the previous record. She stands out on the trails not only for her speed, but also for her attire, often hiking in high heels! Erin and Cam cover highlights from Erin's unique experiences like hiking mountains in heels, her transition from law school to trail life, and her drive to inspire other women athletes. It also touches on reflections of fulfillment and future plans. Follow Erin: https://www.instagram.com/erin_ton7/  Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Timestamps: 00:00:00 – For the Love of the Mountains & FKTs (Fastest Known Time) 00:11:25 – Erin's First FKT 00:16:48 – FKT for MT. Pisgah 00:19:24 – 209 Recorded FKTs & What Her Goal is 00:23:19 – Michelino Sunseri Grand Teton Federal Misdemeanor 00:28:44 – Grand Teton FKT Goal & FKTs in Oregon 00:33:30 – Hiking the Mountains in Heels 00:38:57 – Erin's Biggest Goal: 7 Summits Project 00:44:38 – Law School to Trailheads: A Love of Traveling for Work 00:53:18 – Inspiring Others Through Running 00:55:20 – Strength of Women Athletes and Trash Talk in the Sport 00:57:49 – Animal Welfare & Hesitations About Cam 01:03:54 – Learning to Shoot a Bow & Climbing South Sister 01:07:31 – Goals for MT Hood 01:10:43 – Colorado Culebra Peak Speed Record 01:15:27 – Erin's Sponsors (Teva, Now Foods, Nomadix, COROS)  01:18:00 – F**k, Marry, Kill: FKTs, Hiking in Heels, and Traveling 01:20:43 – Thoughts While Pursuing FKTs 01:22:03 – Pursuing a Lifestyle of Fulfillment 01:26:34 – Is a 50K an Ultra? 01:28:10 – Why FKTs or Races? Any Future Plans for Racing? 01:32:42 – Final Thoughts Thank you to our sponsors: Montana Knife Company: https://www.montanaknifecompany.com/ Use code CAM for 10% off  Ketone IQ: https://www.ketone.com/Cam use code CAM for 30% off your first subscription Grizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 15% off LMNT: Visit https://drinklmnt.com/cam for a free sample pack with any purchase Sig Sauer: https://www.sigsauer.com/ use code CAM10 for 10% off optics MTN OPS Supplements: https://mtnops.com/ Use code CAM for 20% off & Free Shipping

We’re entering peak hiking season in Washington. If you’re hoping to hit the trails, you may have to try some new routes due to ongoing recovery from winter storm damage. Also, after a recent bear attack on Mount Si...keep safety top of mind. We’ll hear more from The Seattle Times outdoors reporter Gregory Scruggs. We can only make Seattle Now because listeners support us. Tap here to make a gift and keep Seattle Now in your feed. Got questions about local news or story ideas to share? We want to hear from you! Email us at seattlenow@kuow.org, leave us a voicemail at (206) 616-6746 or leave us feedback online.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There is a state in New England where ancient mountains rise above the treeline into bare Arctic tundra, where sheer granite summits look out over oceans of forests, and where one of the fastest wind speeds ever recorded was once clocked here at 231 miles per hour. But New Hampshire is also the place where Thoreau came to reflect, Thornton Wilder was inspired to write his seminal play Our Town, and the oldest summer stock company in America stills performs in an 18th century barn. New Hampshire is art and adventure, natural wonders and quintessential charm. But most of all, like the state's nickname suggests, it is a place to live free and to the fullest.In today's episode we set off on a seven-day road trip through three of the state's most rugged and fascinating regions - from backpacking in the White Mountains and scrambling up waterfalls to discovering art inspired by nature, and nature infused with an artistic eye. Get ready for the Live Free Road Trip.Highlights include:Hiking the Presidential Traverse - three days, and four peaks above 5,000 feet, including Mt Washington, the highest (and windiest) summit in New England.Discovering the ‘business class of backpacking' staying in the Apallachain Mountain Club's backcountry huts - three-course dinners, epic views, and cosy beds.Finding out about the MacDowell Institute, a legendary artists' residency founded in 1907, whose past guests include Aaron Copland, Leonard Bernstein, James Baldwin, Thornton Wilder and hundreds of other world-class artists.Hiking Mount Monadnock - reputedly the second most climbed mountain in the world after Mount Fuji, with views across New Hampshire, Vermont and Massachusetts. Hear why this was one of Thoreau's favorite hikes!FIND OUT MOREProduced in collaboration with Lonely Planet: LonelyPlanet.comFind inspiration, itineraries and everything you need - including how to book this exact road trip - at visitnh.gov (Visit New Hampshire) or follow them on social at @VisitNHThank you to our guests:Marielle Fibish, senior outdoor guide at the Appalachian Mountain Club.Find out more at: outdoors.orgBen Cote, Newport local and outdoor fanatic. Connect with him at tracylibrary.orgMichelle Stahl, Executive Director at the Monadnock Center for History and Culture. Find out more at monadnockcenter.orgKnow Someone Who Needs This?If this episode lit something up in you, do me a favour — send it to just one person. One friend, one family member, one person who needs a little wonder in their life right now. Or go old school and tell someone about it over a cheeky pint. Every single share genuinely moves the needle.FOLLOW US:Instagram: @armchairexplorerpodcastFacebook: @armchairexplorerpodcastCONNECT WITH US:If you enjoy the show, please subscribe on whatever podcast player you're reading this on right now. It helps us grow the show, and continue to bring these stories to you.Armchair Explorer is written and presented by Aaron Millar. Audio editing and sound design by Charles Tyrie. Produced by Armchair ProductionsMentioned in this episode:Check out the Smart Travel PodcastThis week's show is supported by the new Smart Travel Podcast. Travel smarter — and spend less — with help from NerdWallet. Check out Smart Travel at the Link below:Smart Travel PodcastCheck out all of our other travel podcasts from around the worldThis podcast is part of the Voyascape Network, a collection of some of the world's best travel podcasts. Explore more at Voyascape.com. For advertising or sponsorship opportunities across the network, see the link below.Voyascape Podcast Network

How many times have you heard of someone with a solid adventure resume being injured by something that seems pretty simple — like, stepping off a kerb, or slipping over in the shower?Today's guest Ross is an experienced multiday bushwalker, free-diver and deer hunter who grew up with the Snowy Mountains on his doorstep, and has spent a lifetime living and working in nature.In this episode, he takes us along on the Light to Light walk (near the ominously named, Disaster Bay, the NSW South Coast) — which, compared to many of his past exploits, should've been a relatively straightforward three-day walk with his family.The dreamy beachside campsites and wild, rocky coastal platforms faded fast — the moment a wrong step left him unable to move his legs. The weather was closing in, there was no mobile coverage, and the nearest road was many kilometres away.Content Warning: This episode includes descriptions of injuries and medical terminology.Key learnings from this episode: Importance of carrying a Personal Locator Beacon (PLB) Travelling in a group means that there's someone to give first aid, call for help and carry out a patient's bags when needed Always preparing and packing for all weather conditions (download my packing list here) How lucky we are in Australia to have such great emergency services, all working together when needed, including volunteers. This rescue involved Police, NSW Ambulance, NPWS, Westpac Rescue Helicopter, NSW State Emergency Services (NSW SES) Gear tip: a light fly/tarp as a secondary shelter for cooking in the rain and an emergency shelter for an injured person. ie setting up a tent and getting an injured person inside may not always be easy/possible due to the location or injury Always waterproof your dry clothes, thermals and sleeping bag inside your pack Importance of training and knowledge in first aid (especially remote area first aid) including how to protect ourselves from environmental factors (cold, rain, etc) Value of having Ambulance Insurance and how it could save you money. Medicare does not cover ambulance in Australia. More than 1 emergency blanket is needed to properly insulate a person Being able to focus on rehabilitation with the right mindset and adjust our lives (and home environment) for the best outcomesOther resources:Read Ross' article on the Ocean Signal website (manufacturers of his PLB)

On this episode of Reelin' In The Years... The Featured Five Theme is Hiking... Also, the story of Johnnie Taylor's death and the lengthy legal battle that ensued... A Smashing Pumpkins song that was initially titled "Strolling" and nearly cut from the album... What band formed in England, but shares their name with their native country?... How the Traveling Wilburys evolved out of a proposed George Harrison European bonus track... New music from Aaron Lee Tasjan... We'll go deep with Dan Auerbach, Missing Persons, Dawes, The Delvon Lamarr Organ Trio, Huey Lewis & The News, and more! For more information, visit reelinwithryan.com

Use code GLITCH for 10% off your Manta Sleep White Noise Machine and accessories: https://tinyurl.com/2frffcd7This episode covers three true scary hiking stories with footage that has been caught on camera. It covers the murders on Monon High Bridge in Delphi Indiana, the discovery of a body in Florida inside an abandoned tent, and a possible sighting of a Bigfoot. All of the images and footage are from the actual stories/cases told. I hope you enjoy these three scary hiking stories. Let me know which one creeped you out the most. Chapters:00:00 - they filmed their killer08:05 - Manta Sleep Sponsor Segment08:53 - they thought it was a deer13:03 - the man with no nameThis episode was researched and written by Umama and edited by Krush. Recorded and produced by Darek Weber.

Liam is a good friend of the Bonfire and SiriusXM Talent Department big-shot. He comes in studio to address the promises Yungblud made when he was there months ago. Mr. Blud offered to party with the guys, have tea with Bobby, and invited the whole crew to his NYC show. Jay dictates what Liam should write to the label and management to ensure Yungblud comes through on all of it. | Bobby goes camping in upstate NY and nothing works out the way he planned. In less than 24 hours of roughing it, Bobby runs out of food, water, and injures himself. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more! FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolf Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of The Bonfire ad-free and a whole week early.  Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kevin Nealon (Saturday Night Live, Happy Gilmore, The Larry Sanders Show, Weeds, Hiking with Kevin) takes his shoes off for the second time.

RESOURCES- Join me in my 30-Day Booty Camp to feel strong, sexy, and radiant in just 15 minutes a day - no gym needed at danettebootycamp.com- Step into your next level of growth and join me inside Lotus Rising Premium Coaching at danettecoaching.com- Manifestival™ 2026 is happening in Sedona. A powerful experience to help you release, reset, and step into your next level. Join me: https://danettemay.com/manifestivalAZ2026 CONNECT WITH DANETTEInstagram: @thedanettemayFacebook: Danette MayTikTok: @thedanettemayNEW TV Show on Youtube: @TheDanetteMayListen to The Danette May ShowRead my book: danettemay.com/embraceabundancebookGet The Rise book: therisebook.comWork with Danette: danettemay.comIn this episode of The Danette May Show, I continue The Europe Diaries with Part 3, taking you from the magic of Venice to the soul-stirring beauty of Crete, Greece. I share the deeper meaning behind ancient places, past-life energy, soul portals, and what happens when you feel called to a specific place on the planet. From leaving Venice by private water taxi to arriving in Rethymno, exploring the south coast of Crete, staying at the dreamy Echo of the Sea villa, and hiking to Loutro, this episode blends Europe travel, Greek island beauty, spiritual awakening, and personal healing.I also open up about safe love, marriage reflections, receiving as a spiritual practice, and the courage it takes to own my spiritual gifts and use my voice. I share the powerful blue moon over the Mediterranean, the upcoming Lotus Elevated gathering in Crete, and an invitation to the Sedona Manifestival experience. If you're drawn to travel, manifestation, feminine energy, past lives, spiritual growth, healing, and creating a deeply aligned life, this episode will inspire you to listen to your soul's call and trust where it leads.IN THIS EPISODE:(0:00) Europe series recap: Venice, dreams, and metaphysical moments1:36 Ancient portals, soul calls, and past-life energy(2:41) Walking through Crete and beginning Part 3(4:20) Leaving Venice, safe love, and the greatest luxury(6:14) Arriving in Crete and following the pull south(7:24) Rethymno stay, Old Town shopping, and Costellos restaurant(8:49) South Crete villa bliss at Echo of the Sea(12:07) Pizza, romance, and a slow day by the sea(13:27) Hiking from Chora Sfakion to Loutro(15:23) Blue moon awe over the Mediterranean(17:17) Finding my spiritual voice and owning my gifts(19:38) Lotus Elevated gathering in Crete(21:03) Sedona Manifestival and Lotus Rising invitation(22:40) Solo days in Crete and closing reflections

Plus: G-7 leaders gather on the shores of Lake Geneva for their latest summit. And shares of SpaceX are poised for another day of gains. Luke Vargas hosts. Sign up for WSJ's free What's News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you've been crushing group fitness classes, sweating buckets, and still not seeing the toned physique you want, this episode is for you. I'm breaking down why more workouts, more soreness, and more exhaustion doesn't always lead to better body composition. We'll talk about what "toned" actually means, why progressive strength training matters, and how to stop spinning your wheels with workouts that feel hard but aren't delivering the results you're after.Mountain Metabolic Coaching [Application Link] — Fat loss, body recomposition, nutrition, hormones, performance, all with full 1:1 coach support. Fit For Hiking Guides  — Workouts to get you trail-ready.More Resources — Wellness tips, hiking + travel guides, and blogs.Shop My Favorite Gear — Amazon storefrontFit For Hiking Instagram Bradee Instagram 

Welcome back to Grounded! The guys are in rare form today as they chat about the past and upcoming week, baseball and much more before diving into this week's sermon. Thanks for listening.

With the summer hiking season in full swing, Zach and Eric offer up 3 of the best options to get your hiking adventures going!

Welcome back to the Outdoor Adventure Series! In this episode, Howard sits down with Melissa Pierick, Director of Marketing and Community Relations for the Ice Age Trail Alliance. Melissa shares her personal journey of discovering the Ice Age National Scenic Trail—an incredible 1,200-mile adventure that winds through Wisconsin, right past the state capital of Madison. Melissa offers insight into the trail's all-season appeal, the vibrant community of “thousand milers,” and the surprising beauty waiting around every corner. We'll also learn about the Alliance's dedicated volunteers, the communities supporting the trail, and how you can get involved— Plus, we'll get a sneak peek at upcoming events, including a unique, behind-the-scenes opportunity for attendees of the OWAA's annual conference in Madison this August to explore future trail segments and enjoy Wisconsin's unrivaled hospitality. Get ready to be inspired to get outside and start your own adventure on the Ice Age Trail!DISCUSSIONIntroduction and WelcomeIntroduction of Melissa Pierick, her role, and a fun fact about Madison 00:34, 00:49Melissa Background and Trail DiscoveryHoward asks about her connection to the Madison area and the Ice Age Trail 01:01Melissa describes living in Wisconsin and not discovering the trail until 2019 01:16Reflections on discovering new places through the trail 03:49, 04:49Ice Age Trail Details and "Thousand Miler" JourneyThe 1200-mile span of the trail 05:36"Thousand miler" achievement and culture 06:00Contrast with thru-hiking culture on other trails 06:06Trail as an All-Season ExperienceDiscussion about hiking in various seasons 07:55Community Involvement and Support Along the TrailLocal community engagement 09:10Overview of the Ice Age Trail's passage through over 130 communities 10:09Description of official Ice Age Trail communities and their partnership with the Alliance 10:43Local business involvement and hospitality 11:15Trail Use and Permitted ActivitiesPermitted trail activities beyond hiking 12:50Trail is designated as a footpath (hiking, snowshoeing, skiing, running, backpacking, walking) 13:08Exceptions for biking on certain segments (urban paths, rails-to-trails) 13:27Rules for “thousand miler” qualification (must be on foot) 13:46Trail Geography and Hiker DemographicsMap overview and curiosity about hiker origins 14:14Explanation of trail route across Wisconsin and locations connected 14:31Hiker demographics: Wisconsin, nearby states (Illinois, Minnesota), international visitors 14:51, 15:29Trail History and Organizational StructureNational Scenic Trail designation in 1980 16:37Historical background: conservationist origins, failed national park effort, scientific reserve units 16:52Organization of the alliance, dating back to the 1950s 18:27Volunteerism on the Ice Age TrailVolunteer numbers (around 2,000 annually) 19:12Wide range of volunteer activities 20:15Website Tour and Online ResourcesGuided walk-through of the Alliance website 23:24Highlights of the interactive trail map and how it's updated 24:21Explanation of key map features 25:37Exploration of specific trail features (Devil's Lake, ferry crossing, local ice cream shops) 28:43Elevation range and features 29:562Upcoming OWAA Conference and Post-TourDetails about the August OWAA conference in Madison 38:17Description of the post-conference tour with the Ice Age Trail Alliance 34:36Reflections on Meaningful Work and Community Impact“aha moments” and meaningful experiences 39:06Melissa discusses gratitude, the supportive hiker community, and the fulfilling impact of her work 39:21"Obituary Builder" InsightMeaningful, memorable life activities over career achievements 43:00LEARN MOREWebsite: To learn more about the Ice Age Trail Alliance, visit their website at https://IceAgeTrail.org or their social sites:Facebook 1: https://www.facebook.com/iceagetrail       Facebook 2: https://www.facebook.com/groups/525543867532782/ Instagram: http://instagram/iceagetrailorgDestination Madison: https://www.visitmadison.com/NEXT STEPSVisit us at https://outdooradventureseries.com to like, comment, and share our episodes.KEYWORDSIce Age Trail Alliance, Ice Age Trail, Thousand Miler, Monty the Mammoth, Destination Madison, Madison Wisconsin, National Scenic Trail, National Park Service, Outdoor Adventure Series, Podcast Interview, OWAA#IceAgeTrailAlliance #IceAgeTrail #ThousandMiler #MontytheMammoth #DestinationMadison #MadisonWisconsin #NationalScenicTrail #NationalParkService #OutdoorAdventureSeries #PodcastInterview #OWAA #OWAA2026My Favorite Podcast Tools:  Production by DescriptHosting BuzzsproutShow Notes by CastmagicWebsite powered by PodpageBe a Podcast Guest by PodMatchBanner Customization by Nano Banana & Canva

Every year, the Minions descend upon some hapless village or berg to drink, make merry, share fellowship, and most importantly unplug. 15 campers joined us in Kentucky for a few days of fun and sight seeing, along with recording a very raw podcast episode on the Rabalais front porch.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/prepper-broadcasting-network--3295097/support.Support PBN and become a MEMBER of the PBN FAMILY! Free courses, Members only videos, reviews, and podcast! The Prepper's Medical Handbook Build Your Medical Cache – Welcome PBN FamilyJoin the Prepper Broadcasting Network for expert insights on #Survival, #Prepping, #SelfReliance, #OffGridLiving, #Homesteading, #Homestead building, #SelfSufficiency, #Permaculture, #OffGrid solutions, and #SHTF preparedness. With diverse hosts and shows, get practical tips to thrive independently – subscribe now!Newsletter – Welcome PBN FamilyGet Your Free Copy of 50 MUST READ BOOKS TO SURVIVE DOOMSDAYSupport PBN with a Donation 

Kirt & Mr. Sal discuss Season 2 Episode 1 of The Four Seasons in which Upstate NY has some pretty tasty food. Shoe Hammer some Show Hoppers into your day! Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJb6TAVe_sYmo4G7lAfEYtg Website: showhoppers.com Show Hoppers Twitter: @ShowHoppers Mr. Sal Twitter: @ShowHoppersSal e-mail: showhopperspodcast@gmail.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

With Father's Day just around the corner, we're reaching back into our library to bring you one of the most moving conversations we've had at this table — and one that has stayed with us long after the microphones turned off.At 72 years old, Marine combat veteran Rand R. Timmerman did something most people half his age will never attempt. He hiked the entire 2,100-mile Appalachian Trail. But this wasn't just an adventure — it was a mission of love.Rand's brother Ron, a 71-year-old Army veteran, was drowning in grief after losing his wife. Rand himself was in recovery from alcoholism. What began as a physical challenge became a spiritual passage — one that transformed both brothers in ways neither of them anticipated.In this deeply moving conversation, Rand shares the humor, danger, heartbreak, and healing that unfolded mile after mile. From critters and storms to moments of grace and unexpected human kindness, this is a story about resilience, brotherhood, and the extraordinary power of nature — and love — to restore the soul.As we head into Father's Day weekend, we couldn't think of a more fitting story to share. It's about showing up. About choosing someone else's healing alongside your own. About what it means to be a brother, a veteran, and a human being walking forward — one step at a time. Pull up a chair. This one is worth every mile.Originally aired April 8, 2026

Welcome to Episode 272 of Pelo Buddy TV, an unofficial Peloton podcast & Peloton news show. This week we cover the following topics: Peloton has acquired Skop, who made a Pilates Reformer. Over the summer, eight different instructors from NYC will teach classes in London. Hiking classes have been turned into their own top level filter. Peloton has begun awarding badges for longer streaks and bigger milestones. Peloton has made a new "Split Replay" collection to house unofficial split strength programs. Sam Yo has some breathwork / meditation classes in the BreathWrk app. Matt Wilpers will be teaching another 2 hour ride on June 27th. Marcel Dinkins will be launching a new "The Progressive Method" program later this month. Peloton is celebrating Pride Month in June with special classes. A new featured artist series showcasing the music of Robyn took place. Peloton had several special Global Running Day classes including one with instructors from both studios. Peloton highlighted some classes in "This Week at Peloton." Happy Birthday to Cody Rigsby & Assal Arian this week. Peloton will have Pride month run clubs in both NYC & London. Jess Sims & Chelsea Jackson Roberts are teaching in Las Vegas. Peloton is bringing bikes to community centers across Chicago. Robin Arzon was in GQ Jess Sims is on the SPORT BEACH Women's Leadership Council. Jess King was featured in The Bump Matty Maggiacomo is taking part in an off Broadway event. Class Picks of the Week Enjoy the show? Become a Pelo Buddy TV Supporter!  Find details here: https://www.pelobuddy.com/membership-levels/ You can find links to full articles on each of these topics from the episode page here: https://www.pelobuddy.com/pelo-buddy-tv-episode-272/ The show is also available via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/PeloBuddy This episode is hosted by Amanda Segal (#Seglo3) and Holly Kabler (#Crabbie_KakeS).

We are back with a new episode, and this time, we are chatting about a wonderful hiking holiday in, around, and over the Yorkshire Dales.  Gabrielle and I had a hiking holiday on the 52 mile James Herriot Way in the Yorkshire Dales.  Join us as we chat about the technicolor scenery, amazing stone walls and buildings, wildflowers, wonderful people, and moor (see what I did there?)!Here are some websites for more information:https://www.yorkshiredales.org.uk/https://www.herriotway.com/https://www.yorkshiredales.org.uk/places/aysgarth_falls_national_park_centre/http://www.hardrawforce.com/waterfall.htmlhttps://thegreendragonhardraw.co.uk/Interested in having Marvin and Gabrielle speak at your event?  Email us below for more information!Email us at www.walkingonthewildside21@gmail.comFollow us on our two webpages to see photos and blogs about our podcasts and nature in general.  We will be posting our Yellowstone pics here:Nature Nook PhotographyWalkin' on the Wild SideYou can listen directly from our website at: https://walkinonthewildside.buzzsprout.com, or from any of the major podcast platforms, such as Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Audible, Spotify, iHeart Radio, TuneIn, Stitcher, and more!Subscribe to our podcasts on any of these platforms and leave us a review!We hope you enjoy listening to our podcast and welcome your emails, comments, and feedback.  Hopefully, we will inspire you to get out there and start "Walkin' on the Wild Side"!We'd love to hear from you with your questions and comments!

This week I unveil the brand new MTN STRENGTH training app to help you get stronger, fitter, and more physically prepared for the mountains than ever before...and it's a gamechanger.To start training towards stronger mountain adventures, download the app in the Apple or Google apps store, or click one of these links below directly:1.) Monthly Option—$29/month. No contracts. https://bit.ly/mtnstrengthmonth2.) Yearly Option—$249/year. No contracts. https://bit.ly/mtnstrengthyear(Use promo code PODCAST to save $50)Tired of physically struggling on your hikes? Looking for help to improve your your fitness for hiking? Here are 3 more ways I can help you do that:1.) Pick up my new book HIKE STRONG to learn how to train to get strong & fit for the mountains. Complete with DIY training plans. Available wherever you get your books or HERE2.) Work with James 1-on-1 (online)Apply to work with directy with James 1-on-1 in his Seek To Do More program where he'll help you build the right kind of strength & conditioning for better hiking adventures, along with the nutrition and daily habits needed to support long term transformation. Book a call with James to see if it's the right fit for you HEREwww.seektodomore.com 3.) Join the next GREAT RANGE ATHLETE Team training programA 6-week online fitness program to help you imporve your strength and endurance for hiking mountains. Train alongside a likeminded team of fellow hikers who will give you the support, guidance, and accountability you need to succeed.Over 300 hikers worldwide have joined the Great Range Athlete team program with great sucesss from first time hikers to multi-round Adirondack 46'ers and everywhere inbetween. Plus, enjoy an Adirondack group hike at the end of the program with your coach and teammatesJoin the next team HEREwww.GreatRangeAthlete.comFollow on Instagram & Facebook:@46of46podcast@jamesappleton46Get my Adirondack hiking books:1.) The Adirondack 46 in 18 Hikes: The Complete Guide to Hiking the High Peaks 2.) Adirondack Campfire Stories: Tales and Folklore from Inside the Blue Line3.) Pick up my digital eBook "From 1-to-46" instantly HEREVisit my websites:www.46OUTDOORS.comwww.46OF46.com

Every year, the Minions descend upon some hapless village or berg to drink, make merry, share fellowship, and most importantly unplug. 15 campers joined us in Kentucky for a few days of fun and sight seeing, along with recording a very raw podcast episode on the Rabalais front porch.

In this episode we talk all about the Kungsleden or "Kings Trail" in Sweden with Nikita or "Rowing Boy" as he's known on trail. Nikita is a thru-hiker and emerging film maker. He also won the THRU-r hikership (aka "hiker scholarship") in 2025 when he hiked the trail.In this episode, Nikita goes into:1. What it's like to hike the Kungsleden and the culture of the trail2. His best advice and tips for hiking long distances3. The specifics of film making while thru-hiking & more!Watch his films & follow along:⁠YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@morkani⁠1st Kungsleden Episode⁠2nd Kungsleden Episode⁠Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/morkani.trail/Did you love this episode? If so, please help fellow hikers find the show by following, rating, and reviewing the podcast on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!Connect With Us:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join The Trail Family⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠THRU-r Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠THRU-r Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠THRU-r TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠THRU-r Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠THRU-r Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠THRU-r Threads⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cheer's YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cheer's Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Episode Music: "Communicator" by Reed Mathis

Summer is in full swing, and anglers across Colorado are looking for opportunities to set a hook into the mouth of a fish across the state's incredible array of lakes, rivers and small streams. But with the state facing a historic drought, there is a lot for anglers to keep in mind.In this episode of the Colorado Outdoors podcast, we sit down with CPW Assistant Director Matt Nicholl, who oversees the Aquatic Wildlife Branch, as well as Josh Nehring, CPW's Deputy Assistant Director of the Aquatic Branch, to talk about all matters fishing in Colorado for 2026. According to the U.S. Drought Monitor released on June 4, 2026, all 64 counties in Colorado are currently experiencing at least Abnormally Dry conditions, while nearly 93% of the state is in Moderate to Exceptional Drought. Following the lowest snowpack accumulation season on record, May 1 streamflow forecasts projected runoff ranging from only 21% to 37% of median across Colorado river basins. Additionally, this water year (October 2025 - Present) has been the warmest on record in Colorado, contributing to early snowmelt, extremely low river flows, diminished soil moisture conditions and elevated wildfire risk statewide. This has an impact on anglers and may make many who hold a 2026 Colorado fishing license rethink areas they traditionally like to fish.Fishing in mornings or evenings when water temperatures are cooler will not only lead to better fish health but also more angler success. And not pressuring fisheries especially impacted by the drought will also benefit the long-term health of aquatic life.Hear our expert's tips on how to still have a great fishing season across Colorado despite the drought conditions and learn more about CPW's fisheries management in this new episode.Podcast hosted by Regional Public Information Officers John Livingston and Kara Van Hoose. Podcast edited by Meghan Lopez. Art19 is the host platform, and people can also find the podcast online at https://art19.com/shows/colorado-outdoors

Isobel's daughter Elizabeth comes on to discuss her hike of the Camino Trail. This is a very runnable trail and a popular destination for multi day running. Hear how you could easily organise this adventure for yourself!

Eight hundred years ago, St Francis walked the roads of central Italy with nothing — and today, those same roads are waiting for you to explore. Katy sits down with Sara Zanni, Bologna-based archaeologist and hiking guide, to explore the Via di Francesco. Thirteen trails through Umbria, Tuscany, and Lazio, all converging on Assisi, through ancient forests, olive groves, and small towns home to art treasures you will never find on a standard itinerary.Show notes with links and resources here > untolditaly.com/328Want someone who really knows Italy to help plan your trip? Our Italy experts love answering your tricky questions and designing trips that take you to the Italy you imagined - start planning hereNot sure where to start? Get the Untold Italy podcast guide with 315 epsiodes organized by topic.The premium Untold Italy app has ad-free access to our complete archive of 300+ episodes searchable by place and topicFOLLOW: Instagram • Facebook • YouTube GET OUR NEWS: Subscribe hereTRIP PLANNING SERVICES: Learn more hereJOIN US ON TOUR: Upcoming departuresThe Untold Italy travel podcast is an independent production. Podcast editing and audio production by Mark Hatter. Production assistance by the other

What happens when two cloud economists leave AWS  behind and spend six days hiking 60 miles on the Appalachian Trail? Corey Quinn sits down with Caleb Hurd to share stories from the trail, including exploding sleeping pads, heroic shuttle drivers, lost phones, and the unique community that makes long-distance hiking special. Along the way, they draw surprising parallels between backpacking and cloud economics, discussing everything from serverless architecture and cloud cost optimization to the hidden challenges of on-prem infrastructure. It's a conversation about technology, adventure, perspective, and why sometimes the best way to solve complex problems is to step away from them entirely.Show highlights:(00:00) Why Hiking Hooks You(00:15) Meet Caleb on the Trail(01:31) Trail Miles and Ultralight Parallels(05:24) The Sleeping Pad Blowout(07:46) Shepherd Saves the Day(09:43) Trail Community and Cloud Community(11:07) Post Trail Perspective and Inside Jokes(15:35) Back to Work On Prem vs Cloud Pain(25:47) Server-less Spend and Lambda Sprawl(32:29) Wrap Up Where to Find CalebAbout Caleb: Caleb Hurd is a Cloud Economist at Duckbill, where he helps enterprises make sense of their cloud spend. Before moving to the cost side of the house, Caleb spent years in the trenches building and operating large-scale cloud environments and leading the engineering teams behind them across companies ranging from healthcare tech to enterprise Saas. He also founded CostOps.cloud, an AWS cost consulting practice, and is a vocal advocate for engineering-led FinOps — arguing that the people closest to the architecture should be the ones driving cost strategy, not spreadsheet jockeys in finance. Caleb holds a degree from Georgia Tech and made an unconventional journey into tech from a background in carpentry, which may explain his preference for building things over just talking about them. He's based in Atlanta.Links:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/calebrhurd/Sponsored by: duckbillhq.com

If you're tired of chasing the next supplement, diet, or “health hack” but still don't have the energy, body composition, or health you want, this episode is for you. I'm sharing 10 simple habits that most people overlook - the habits that actually move the needle for blood sugar, fat loss, muscle tone, longevity, and daily energy. These aren't extremes, expensive, or complicated - they're practical, sustainable, and powerful! Let's jump in!Mountain Metabolic Coaching [Application Link] — Fat loss, body recomposition, nutrition, hormones, performance, all with full 1:1 coach support. Fit For Hiking Guides  — Workouts to get you trail-ready.More Resources — Wellness tips, hiking + travel guides, and blogs.Shop My Favorite Gear — Amazon storefrontFit For Hiking Instagram Bradee Instagram 

1:39 Lost Maples episode discussion10:01 Layover nightmare16:27 Differences in backpacking between US regions29:15 What's our go-to cooking dish36:55 Differences in safety considerations for solo and group hikes45:40 Differences in filming for solo and group hikes

Scary Hiking Stories to Keep You Off the Trails This SummerLinktree: https://linktr.ee/its_just_creepyStory Credits:►Sent in to https://www.justcreepy.net/Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:00:18 Story 100:48:04 Story 2Music by:►'Decoherence' by Scott Buckley - released under CC-BY 4.0. www.scottbuckley.com.auBusiness inquiries:►creepydc13@gmail.com#scarystories #horrorstories

This is the story of the Great Range Athlete BUCK Team as they trained together and hiked Buck Mountain as a team. The Buck Team was a corporate Great Range Athlete team for the Adirondak Trust Company employees, offered by the bank as a wellness program.If you'd like to explore a partnership with Great Range Athlete for your own company so your employees can live a strong, adventourous, happy life outside of work too, email james@46outdoors.com and I'll send you the details to see if it's right for your business.Tired of physically struggling on your hikes? Looking for help to improve your your fitness for hiking? Here are 3 different ways I can help you do that:1.) Pick up my new book HIKE STRONG to learn how to train to get strong & fit for the mountains. Complete with DIY training plans. Available wherever you get your books or HERE2.) Work with James 1-on-1 (online)Apply to work with directy with James 1-on-1 in his Seek To Do More program where he'll help you build the right kind of strength & conditioning for better hiking adventures, along with the nutrition and daily habits needed to support long term transformation. Book a call with James to see if it's the right fit for you HEREwww.seektodomore.com 3.) Join the next GREAT RANGE ATHLETE Team training programA 6-week online fitness program to help you imporve your strength and endurance for hiking mountains. Train alongside a likeminded team of fellow hikers who will give you the support, guidance, and accountability you need to succeed.Over 300 hikers worldwide have joined the Great Range Athlete team program with great sucesss from first time hikers to multi-round Adirondack 46'ers and everywhere inbetween. Plus, enjoy an Adirondack group hike at the end of the program with your coach and teammatesJoin the next team HEREwww.GreatRangeAthlete.comFollow on Instagram & Facebook:@46of46podcast@jamesappleton46Get my Adirondack hiking books:1.) The Adirondack 46 in 18 Hikes: The Complete Guide to Hiking the High Peaks 2.) Adirondack Campfire Stories: Tales and Folklore from Inside the Blue Line3.) Pick up my digital eBook "From 1-to-46" instantly HEREVisit my websites:www.46OUTDOORS.comwww.46OF46.comThe Colvin Chronicles is dedicated to the memory of Casey Bard.SUPPORT CASEY BARD'S Family:Pick up some bbq sauce and seasoning at www.Tacticalories.com to support Casey's Adirondack-loving family. I recommend "Campfire Smoke"...formerly known as "Adirondack Smoke". It's a delicious seasoning.Tired of physically struggling on your hikes? Looking for help to improve your your fitness for hiking? Here are 3 different ways I can help you do that:1.) Pick up my new book HIKE STRONG to learn how to train to get strong & fit for the mountains. Complete with DIY training plans. Available wherever you get your books or HERE2.) Work with James 1-on-1 (online)Apply to work with directy with James 1-on-1 in his Seek To Do More program where he'll help you build the right kind of strength & conditioning for better hiking adventures, along with the nutrition and daily habits needed to support long term transformation. Book a call with James to see if it's the right fit for you HEREwww.seektodomore.com 3.) Join the next GREAT RANGE ATHLETE Team training programA 6-week online fitness program to help you imporve your strength and endurance for hiking mountains. Train alongside a likeminded team of fellow hikers who will give you the support, guidance, and accountability you need to succeed.Over 300 hikers worldwide have joined the Great Range Athlete team program with great sucesss from first time hikers to multi-round Adirondack 46'ers and everywhere inbetween. Plus, enjoy an Adirondack group hike at the end of the program with your coach and teammatesJoin the next team HEREwww.GreatRangeAthlete.comFollow on Instagram & Facebook:@46of46podcast@jamesappleton46Get my Adirondack hiking books:1.) The Adirondack 46 in 18 Hikes: The Complete Guide to Hiking the High Peaks 2.) Adirondack Campfire Stories: Tales and Folklore from Inside the Blue Line3.) Pick up my digital eBook "From 1-to-46" instantly HEREVisit my websites:www.46OUTDOORS.comwww.46OF46.com

We're back with another On the Journey episode! We had a fascinating conversation with Living Joyfully Network member Ari Lambie. Ari is a mom of three young children and she spoke with us about her journey. We talked about the philosophy of learning, the fallibilism of humans, creativity, children’s social development as well as their capability, and a lot more. It was a really rich conversation and we hope you find it helpful! Watch the video of our conversation on YouTube. THINGS WE MENTION IN THIS EPISODE We invite you to join us in the Living Joyfully Network, a warm and welcoming online community of like-hearted parents. It's a non-judgmental space where you can steep in these unconventional ideas around parenting, relationships, and learning, and explore what they might look like day-to-day in your uniquely wonderful family. We offer a free month trial so you can see if it's a good fit for you. Click here to join us. Sign up to our mailing list on Substack to receive our email newsletters as well as new articles about learning, parenting, and so much more! Check out our website, livingjoyfully.ca for more information about exploring unschooling and navigating relationships. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT ANNA: Hello everyone, I’m Anna Brown with Living Joyfully, and today I’m joined by my co-host Erika Ellis and Pam Larcchia, as well as our special guest today, Ari Lambie. Hello to you all. Before we get started, I just want to mention the Living Joyfully Network. It’s a lovely place where you can find support at any stage of your journey, and I feel so lucky to get to hang out with so many amazing people from all over the world. If you’d like to join us, we’ll put the link in show notes, and you can also go to our website livingjoyfully.ca, and there’s a link right on the home page. I am so excited that Ari is here with us today. She is one of those amazing members of the Network I was just mentioning, and it’s been so fun getting to know her and her family. She loves to dive into all the nuances, and that is my favorite, so I’m very excited. Ari, just to get us started, can you tell us a little bit about you and your family and what everyone’s interested in right now? ARI: Sure. Well, thanks so much for having me. I’m really grateful to be here. I am Ari, and I’m part of a family of five. We live in Portland, Oregon. My husband, Joaquin, is a critical care doctor, so he spends a lot of time taking care of people and solving challenging problems, but he’s also really fun. He brings a lot of light energy to the house. He likes to cook, which I love. I mean, I don’t love cooking, so I love that he cooks. He also likes to garden and play sports and come up with challenging ideas and concepts that are away from the norm, which is our favorite thing to talk about. We’ve been together for 20 years, and we just love talking about the ideas he comes up with, which makes me think hard and come back with either a new way of thinking or challenging him with a new idea. So, that’s what we spend a lot of time doing when we have time to ourselves. My nine-year-old daughter likes to come in on those conversations sometimes. She really likes figuring out the world, talking about it. She likes to read. One of her interests is unusual animals, particularly marine animals. She’s taught me a ton about all these animals I’ve never heard of. She also likes to bake and do some crafty things. She likes to watch Minecraft videos and hang with friends. She spends a lot of time with her friends. My seven-year-old is just this fantastic person of expression. She loves to draw. She loves to listen to music. She’s teaching herself how to play some music. She loves stories and is really good at telling stories. And she expresses herself with her body, too. She’s really athletic, and she gives the biggest, best hugs that you’ll ever feel. My five-year-old, she’s really into pretend play. We play a lot of games together. She loves to be a pet in a pet store, and I come and have to buy her because she’s the most special pet in the store. Or we’ll play that we’re both shape-shifting dragons, and we have to defend against the other dragons. So that’s kind of her jam. She also likes to cook, and she’s really into numbers right now. She’s always figuring out how they go together, how they count up. So that’s been fun to play with her, too. We all like to move. We’re all pretty physical. One of our favorite games is tag. When we go to the park, we will almost inevitably end up playing some form of freeze tag. We’ve invented lots of different games of freeze tag. Me, I like to move outdoors. Hiking is probably one of my favorite hobbies right now. I also like to journal, and craft, and do art here and there. I spend most of my time hanging out with my kids and figuring out life. I’m loving it. It’s so nice. PAM: It’s so great to hear about everybody. I feel like we say this every time, but it’s just so fun to hear the different kinds of expressions of each person, yet as you’re listening, you can see how they weave together. Like you were even saying, oh she likes to join in cooking. This one likes to join in on conversations. There’s so many pieces. What I always love is just how it’s a beautiful expression of the idea of a family of individuals. How we can all be living together and being ourselves. Like you said, you’re very busy with parenting and figuring all those pieces out, and also you have the things that you enjoy doing, and that you notice you enjoy doing, and bringing those where they weave in to all the different pieces. So, I just, I love unschooling families. ERIKA: I love that too, and yeah, it’s just making me think about, people are different, and how when we have these different individuals in our families, how we learn from each other, and I think initially when I went into parenting, I was thinking they’ll be a lot like me, and they’ll just learn from me kind of thing. I didn’t realize quite how much interconnected learning there would be, just because we’re all so different. I didn’t realize how different they could be, and I think, each child you add is just a whole new layer of learning for everyone in the family. So, I love that for sure. PAM: I think for me, that’s been one of the big shifts, was recognizing the individuals, right? As a family, we’re going to do this, and as a family, we’re going to do that, and then recognizing that legitimately doesn’t work for some of us, and that was kind of an eye-opening moment. Okay, so the next question. We are very interested to hear a bit more about how you discovered unschooling, and what ideas and people have influenced you so far along the way, because, you know, the journey keeps going, doesn’t it? ARI: Yeah, I don’t think it’ll ever end. So, my interest in unschooling started about four years ago, when I read a book by a physicist named David Deutsch. He talked about a lot of physics concepts that are beyond me, but he also talks about this philosophy or understanding of knowledge, and how knowledge grows, and it really shook up my understanding, but made it clearer to me what I believed, it made it make more sense. And he draws a lot on a 20th century philosopher, Karl Popper, who coined the term, the bucket mind theory, I guess it is. So, thinking about the mind as a bucket, where you pour knowledge in, which is wrong, but it’s how a lot of us think about how knowledge is passed from one person to another. It’s just this receiving process, where someone tells you information, and you receive it, but Deutsch and Popper challenge this and say, learning is actually a creative process. And it happens when we have a conflict in our mind, two things that are incompatible, as simple as a desire. I want this, and I don’t have it yet, or I want to understand this, and I don’t yet, and then what we do in our mind is we come up with ideas that can reconcile the conflict, or solve the conflict, and we use our knowledge to criticize all the ideas we come up with. A lot of this is subconscious, but we’re criticizing our ideas, and picking the one that is the best explanation, and then we try it out, and then we see how the world responds, and we learn more information. This idea just made so much sense to me. They apply it to a larger scale, how humans as a species gain knowledge, and how science advances, but it also applies to the individual, so that really got me thinking. I realized that school is so much based on the bucket theory of pouring knowledge in, and it doesn’t really allow for as much of this creative trying, or see your ideas are as valid as anybody’s, let’s hear more about them, so that was a big knock against school for me. Deutsch also talks about the fallibilism of humans, that we’re just, most of our ideas are wrong. We don’t know anything for sure, and school sends the message, at least I got the message in school, that we’re telling you information, this is how it is, and it’s not going to change, we’re the authority here. I think that’s a real disservice, because the truth is that knowledge is always changing, the truth is, these are our best explanations right now, but in the future, we’ll probably prove most of this wrong. And so I think it’s dangerous to tell kids, this is how it is, don’t think that it could be different So, you combine these ideas of creativity, that learning is about creativity, and that our ideas are always coming up with better explanations, replacing things, and it shows the big problem with ever forcing a person to think a certain way, or to do a certain thing, because even when you think you’re telling somebody to do something because it’s in their best interest, you’re probably wrong. We just don’t know enough about the world, or about that particular person, and then you’re also taking away their ability to come up with their own ideas, and test them out. That’s how they’re going to learn about their interfacing with the world, and how they want to be, and the best understanding that they can come to. You stunt human progress, because you’re limiting ideas, new ideas for us to test out. Those were all big epiphanies for me, this new way of thinking, and I was like okay, so we should avoid forcing people as much as possible. It changed my view on society really. But I still wasn’t sure that it could apply to children. I had a five-year-old, a three-year-old, and a baby at the time, and I was telling them what to do a lot, and so I was like how do you apply this to, does this even apply to children. So, I did some research, and I was like yes, people are doing this. Kids are full humans, they can be seen as creative knowledge growers as much as anybody, in fact they’re more creative, because they haven’t learned to criticize as much. I found John Holt, I found Peter Gray, I found you all, I found the term unschooling, and I was like wow, this is possible. So, I talked with the family, presented it to my oldest, who was in kindergarten at the time, and our life was not as interesting as it was before they started preschool and kindergarten, I was not feeling, I don’t know, not as full myself, schlepping them places, and just dealing with the, let’s get to places on time energy. My oldest was starting to get a little bored with her experience in kindergarten, and she was all for staying home and continuing to play, so that’s when we started. ANNA: All right, see, this is exciting though, because I think it’s so interesting, that idea that he was talking about, and that you were looking into that, how it really does systematically shut down that creative mind, that critical thinking mind. What a disservice, it really is. That’s why it’s so hard for me when, and I know it feels to people like such a radical concept, but I just think, oh my gosh, how does it not make sense, you can see it happening, and I think it’s just so fascinating. I love that this idea was related to adults. And still I think for many people it’s that resistance, but can it be for kids? I see that with so many interesting people that are putting interesting ideas out in the world, and so often are not applying to children, and I just think, whoa, you’re really missing the boat, one, because kids have so much to teach us, and they bring such creativity to things, but I just think, wow, you are missing that the ideas definitely apply to kids. That was very interesting, thank you. PAM: The part that really bubbled up for me, that connected, because I feel like that’s something that I learned so strongly at school, that still gets in my way, so yeah, maybe it might be partly personality-based, but the idea of having the right answer first before acting. That is something I learned watching my kids, but still, it’s so ingrained. I have to literally remember, and which is why I talk pretty often, and I don’t know if we’ve shared it yet, the Baby Steps episode from the Living Joyfully Podcast, but Baby Steps have become a mantra for me to remind myself to think, just as you were describing, what’s my best interpretation or thought or idea about this thing that I am feeling a push with? And go try it, and see what I learned, because I’ll learn more by trying it, more that I can take back, rather than just intellectually trying to solve it completely to the end, before I ever actually take it out in the world and see what it looks like. So, I’ve spent all that time trying to figure it out, versus experimenting. I think maybe it looks like this, boom, go try it, learn some more, come back and, ooh, I’m going to tweak it a little bit more from what I learned, how things unfolded in that moment, and I’m going to take that idea out into the world and test it, that just makes so much sense. It is how I saw, even though my kids were in school for a handful of years before they came home, but yeah, that period was just, like, releasing the crud, right. The crud that they had been absorbing, so their own kind of de-schooling, but mistakes still were not yet this huge, horrible thing to them. They didn't even see them as mistakes, they just said, oh, that didn’t work as I expected, let me bring that information, tweak it, and try it a little bit differently next time, or two minutes from now when I want to keep pushing down this path. For me to recognize that mistakes aren’t literally bad, they’re just more learning, they’re just more context to the situation that I’m pulling in, And that, to me, that’s where the creativity lies, because the more little bits of information I have, or if we think about learning as a web, the more little connections I’ve got, the more creative I can be, because I have more pieces to play with, to bring together. It reminds me, you were talking about the discussions you and your husband love to have about very interesting things, it’s like, oh, let’s pull it apart this way, what if we look at it this way, what if we go way over here, and what would that look like, let’s go try it, or even if it’s a mind experiment. It’s just so fun and creative, and that’s what learning is, versus the, oh my gosh, here’s the bucket, take the fire hose, all the stuff you’re supposed to memorize and implement, because it’s the right way. Anyway, yes, so fun. ERIKA: I feel like I’m going to be thinking about some of these for a while, it’s very interesting, and kind of a unique path to get to unschooling. I don’t know if I’ve heard this exact story before, which is really fun. It was making me think, that idea of, you’re probably wrong, it could be a really good one to kind of play around with, because that’s so not what we learned growing up. It was, there’s one answer, that’s what the fact is. Then I was thinking back, and I remember in school, learning in science or something, we would learn something that people used to believe, like spontaneous generation, or something, where now we think how could they have been so clueless? I remember having the thought at that time, so what about now, don’t you think people in the future are going to be like, how could they have been so clueless back then? So, I had that thought, but then you don’t really have a chance to play around with that. Everything is taught as facts now, and I just remember being, like, how will we know which ones of these are completely wrong, that we’re learning right now? And so it is really interesting, and I think maybe approaching my kids with the idea that I’m probably wrong about what I think I know about whatever it is, I think that could be helpful. It might also make it more challenging to know what to say sometimes. I think I grew up in that environment of, you listen to the person, and they know what’s true, and that’s it. It feels super expansive to kind of shift that. ARI: Yeah, I love all that. I think the way we try to come at our kids is not with that authority of, we know what’s best, but we have some ideas. We have stories that we’ve experienced, and we try to look at our kids. Are they interested in hearing from us about this topic? And when you were talking, Pam, I was thinking about how the internal versus external processor, how maybe you go try things out, and that’s how you test ideas and criticize them and come up with better ones. A lot of people like to process them against the knowledge they have in their head or maybe go read about stuff. I love how you all talk about these different kinds of processing. Some people want to talk to other people. The problem with the mindset that we learn in school is that talking to another person means asking an authority for the answer when it could mean let’s bounce some ideas around, like, what do you think of my ideas? Tell me your ideas. Let’s come up with what’s the best one to try, you know? PAM: Yeah, or cheating, right? Then don’t talk to them about it. It does very much say you have to learn it all, and you have to regurgitate it this way. Just imagine external processors. You can’t talk to the teacher. You can’t talk to the other students in the classroom, and do you have a lot of time for processing outside of the school hours? That was something that surprised me when my kids first came home, because we went from very scheduled and busy and stuff, right, and I thought, oh, well, we’re not going to school anymore. We have all this time to do other things, but then to realize that, they’re like, no, thank you. No, thank you. They spend so much more time just processing and engaging in what they were interested in, much more than I was kind of expecting. I thought, oh, I’m going to have to keep them busy, and that too is personality-based. Some people like to, but that’s the difference. Even when we went to, say, the Science Center, seeing the difference between how they moved through exhibits and just the whole environment versus how the school kids in the exhibit right beside us were moving through it. They had no control, no agency over that pace, and they didn’t even get to choose what they were trying to process because they had the little worksheet that said, at this exhibit, when you do X, what happens. There was no time then to be creative with what is actually catching your attention. What would you like to focus on versus, what somebody else, authority, is telling you. These are the important bits that you need to be picking out of that, right? ANNA: Right, which I think makes you question things too, if you’re picking up different things than what the authority is picking up. I think a piece of my journey that’s related to this is, just kind of toying with the whole subjective reality piece, which I think was really the foundation for my understanding of how different people are. I do a lot of internal thinking about all the things, and that was really it for me. Oh, things that feel like a fact, we are experiencing differently. So there was this nuance to the fact. The fact is that it’s 40 degrees outside. I’m cold, someone else is hot. Okay, so we have a fact, but we have how we’re interacting with that fact. A dramatic example of one nation’s terrorist is another nation’s hero. There’s a fact of what happened, but the interpretation of the fact is so subjective, and so it was just this idea of, wow, we are experiencing the very same things very differently because we’re all so different. That just really changed so many things about the way I related to my kids, related to the people in my life. Then we’ve just built on that as we’ve talked about relationships, but I think it’s all related. And I think school really stifles that understanding because it’s trying to put everything in a very neat box. And again, I think it can make kids kind of doubt themselves too, because they’re seeing different things that are just as important, but that aren’t being highlighted on the worksheet. ERIKA: I think the younger kids, especially, like, when you’re describing being able to talk things through and that everyone’s ideas have value. I feel like it gets more like that when you get into college and beyond where people actually want to talk and professors want to hash things out. I mean, not everyone, but some. But younger kids, you’re not ready for it. You know, you need me to dump all this information into your bucket because you don’t know anything yet. And so I think that’s so interesting that if we question that, kids have so many ideas and are so open to that. ARI: Simply the idea that they might know what they want. They’re having this subjective experience and they have unique wants. But no, we want to take them to this class and this activity and they shouldn’t be watching this TV. There’s just this idea that we know better what they want. PAM: Right. We don’t trust. Like you said, we just can’t know. We can’t. And I think that’s why when we talk so often about this de-schooling phase of the journey, how so much of it we recognize quickly enough is our work to do. Because we are questioning some of these more basic ideas and then playing with them and seeing how they unfold. Here’s the school’s conventional ideas and here’s, for lack of a better phrase, unschooling’s unconventional ideas. And it’s not about just taking those on wholesale as your new set of rules to follow, et cetera. Because then you don’t get that richness. You don’t get that understanding. You’re not playing around with them to see how they make sense for you. But to take this, like you were saying, that makes sense to me. Does this apply to children? And then looking to your children and playing around with some of those ideas and then seeing how they actually unfold is how you learn how capable kids really are and how they can have an idea of subjectively what they want this experience to be. Notice that it’s different from the experience we were kind of hoping they were going to have. But letting it play out and seeing, oh, look how super valuable that was for them, for who they are as that unique human being versus, yeah, sure, I could have said, oh, no, but do it this way, but do it this way. And they would have taken that in, but they would have taken it as my interpretation. And then, yes, you get into all the, oh, does that mean I’m wrong? Does that mean I can’t think through this properly? I should be thinking about it and seeing and being interested in what they think, et cetera. So there’s all that piece that comes along when they didn’t get to play around with the one thing that they were super interested in about it all. ERIKA: The next question we had is how you have shared on the network about how trust has been harder to find related to your children’s social development more than physical or intellectual development. I was hoping you could share a little bit about that journey and what has helped you in that area. ARI: Yeah, it’s been really interesting to watch in myself how I have no qualms about the kids climbing up structures and maybe taking a tumble, playing sports and making mistakes. I see that as part of their physical development. And with intellectual, academic stuff, it was pretty easy for me to make the paradigm shift of if they follow their interests and their problem solving, they’re going to be able to lead their way here. But when it came to social stuff, the moment my kid said something mean on the playground and I’m worried what the other kid is going to think, I immediately tense up and rush to intervene. Even if my kids like making a suggestion for a game to a stranger on the playground, I feel myself, oh no, what if, I don’t know if she asked it in the right way. What if the other kid says no and I’m so untrusting of their social exploration, it’s been really interesting. And so with all of your help, I’ve been exploring why that is and where I can go with it. I think that the social stuff has always been really hard for me, or the hardest part for me. And so, in a way, I wish I had more help with it. And so I want to help my kids. And this is how I know how to help is to jump in and tell them what to do. I also think that in our society, and I’ve noticed it, in particular in the homeschool spheres, there’s this real desire for everyone to play nice. I think even families keep their kids out of school to avoid bullying and terrible behavior, which is legitimate. But then it makes these expectations in the play spaces of, we don’t accept certain behaviors. And so we have less tolerance of their developmental journey in this social stuff. They’re supposed to know how to act now, which I think is really interesting. And so I feel that social pressure. And then the third piece, I think, is that I feel like my impact on the world, my desire to bring certain energy, certain positivity to the world is intertwined with how my kids act, how my kids are in the world. And so if they do something socially that I don’t like, if they do something that might hurt someone, or behave in a way that is not how I would carry myself, then I think that’s a problem, because I am too connected. So there are those three pieces that I’ve tried to work through. I think the first one, as far as me wanting to intervene, because social stuff is hard for me, I’ve unpacked as like, would little Ari have wanted more instructions, more judgment, telling me how to act? Or would I have wanted curiosity and more questions like, what’s going on for you? Compassion, trying to understand what’s going on. And an acknowledgement that we don’t know the right way, there’s no right way to act, right? Language like, this is not okay, or we don’t do that. That doesn’t fit in my sphere anymore. It’s more about, what was this experience? And do you want to process it with me? That’s the energy I would like to bring to my kids. It’s still a struggle. I get triggered all the time. But I try to think back on what would have helped me and looking into my kids eyes, what is going to be helpful for them now? Is it judgment? Is it instruction? Or is it this openness and acknowledgement that you’re on a journey and you don’t have to get it right now. First of all, there is no right, but also, it’s just a long learning process. And then with the social expectations, I’ve tried to surround myself with people who are interested in trusting their kids more. And I found some beautiful people. And that’s been helpful. I acknowledge that we don’t want our kids to be hurt. So we still want to talk to our kids about and inform them if somebody else is being impacted by their behavior. I try to just have a lot of conversations without judgment around that. And I think helping our kids through difficult social situations by being okay. Helping our kids know that hurt is going to happen and that I’m here for you and what do we want to do about it? Instead of mom should have prevented that. I think there’s just so much more nuance to their social development than kids should have these instructions of how to treat other people. Because social interactions are really complicated. And then, my biggest aha, I think, has been untangling my impact from my kids’ impact. I think there’s a story that I have. And I think a lot of people believe that our kids are part of our way of making the world a better place. We’re raising our kids to be good people so that the world can be a better place. And the moment, this statement came into my head that my children are not my agents to make the world a better place. It’s like, whoa, that’s me. That’s about my actions. And they are full people. And I am here to support them in becoming who they are. That has been a really helpful aha moment for me. ANNA: Yeah, that one’s huge. And I think that is interesting, because I think we do often put things on children that are really ours to carry. It is okay for me to say I want to be this change agent myself, but this idea that our kids can do that is super interesting. But something when you were talking earlier to just the idea of, we tend to focus so intently on behaviors that we really do miss those nuances of needs that are happening underneath of that. And so when we’re solely focused on, even just the labeling of bullying behavior, it’s like, oh, there’s so much underneath of that. Now, granted, in a school environment, they don’t have the tools or the time or the people that can work with that. So, I totally get wanting to get kids out of an environment like that that doesn’t feel safe. But when we have engaged parents with kids, we’re able to dig under that to see, oh, is this actually not a good environment? Have we not eaten? Is there something else going on? We can look at all these pieces. And when we’re having that kind of conversation with our kids, they’re actually learning about their own triggers, like, okay, I don’t do well in large crowds, or I need to eat before we do something, or I can only last two hours. That’s so much more productive for everyone, for the family and the group as a whole. But for the individual to have the space to learn about themselves in that way, when they’re young, is so valuable. I also feel for you because I’ve been there feeling that like, oh, that’s not what I would say. That’s not how I would have handled that. And I love just being able to help myself, find that compassion for the person and really see them and have really seen so many people just kind of melt under that and just feel really held. And have a real learning opportunity of what was happening for them in that moment. There were just so many interesting things about that. PAM: So many. I mean, it really is the piece, maybe I’m reiterating again, but that piece of how much they’re learning about themselves, having the space to process that, spaces in that doesn’t mean literally leaving them alone, because that’s what we feel we’re supposed to do or anything. We have the conversations and they’re like, I don’t want you to come jumping in if you see, I want to try this, this and this. But you’ve made that plan beforehand. This is an experiment that you’re running. This is how you’re trying and how you’re going to learn more about all the pieces. Because like you were saying, there’s just so much context to every moment. Maybe one park day, everything goes fine, there are no big blow ups or anything. And, the next one, there’s clashes. And to be able to chat more about the context of those moments. And if you don’t have as much of a chatter, we’re still observing. I think that was one of the things too, so often was seeing that, like you talked about finding a group of engaged parents, Ari. And I think that makes a huge difference because so often it was the parents all off in one area and then the kids just off on their own. And I was often one of the only parents who would hang out with the kids. They’re fun. But because we saw what was going on, we could have meaningful conversations after about it. When they did this, how are you feeling? Or we have enough information and context to have meaningful conversations to process through which they can learn. I was really hungry or I was frustrated because like three interactions ago, something happened that I was stewing about that came with me. So my cup was almost full. And this one little thing which I could have moved through 90 percent of the time just kind of filled me up and I exploded because of that. Those are all such valuable pieces to learn about ourselves. And for them to learn about us, like moving forward that they can bring that you can then prep for it. Like you were saying, eating before you go, noticing the time and maybe even having like a code word for when it’s time. There were times when I’m like, we’ll totally just blame this all on me or whatever. Like I’ll come up and say, oh, we have to go, we have to go. And we’ll have prearranged it before that, that they’re going to want to go at this point. Or if we see something happen, but then I am able to just pull them out of it. We are just learning so much every time we just try something out and see it takes us right back to where you started. I try something out and see how it unfolds and what do we learn from it? And yes, it applies here too. But yeah, socially, that can be a hard place to take these ideas or a more challenging place to take these ideas. Because there are so many social roles. And like you said, you kind of have to find the people who are also willing to engage with social situations in the same kind of way. ERIKA: It is so interesting. I think it’s just an area that triggers us, because of our own experiences and how you’re describing that social life was hard for you. Then that’s so triggering. I have the same experience with my kids. I don’t want them to lose their friends. I want them to be accepted and I want them to not be rejected. And there are these very kind of almost scary feelings that can come up for me. It feels very urgent that this go well. And I just hope that they say the right thing. It’s a panicky feeling that can come up for me. But just like everything else, there’s no one right way, which you mentioned, which I think is so huge. That doesn’t even seem possibly true at the beginning. But then it’s like, well, of course, there’s not one right way to behave socially. And that it requires learning like anything else in life. And so just being open to it, they’re going to try things and see how it turns out. And that’s just how humans learn. And that’s okay. That’s safe. It's been really interesting to sit with the reality of that. My oldest does a lot of processing of social things with me. That has been very enjoyable to have things occur and him to notice things he didn’t the first time, after our discussion. So he’ll be like, so and so is really making me mad right now, he’s furious. And I’m like, oh, my gosh, what’s going on? But then he’ll bring things up. I think he probably didn’t sleep well, you know, just the context pieces or we don’t know. Maybe I could provide information. His mom’s been out of town all week or just different things. There are things that go on with people, maybe it’s hormones. And so we’ve talked about hormones and maybe it’s all these different things. And so just kind of giving everyone more space, I guess, to make mistakes socially and that to be like, and we’re still okay. And we can make repairs. It’s such a different feeling and story than I had when I was growing up. I feel like the validation I got from my mom was kind of like, that’s a mean person. It wasn’t about, I wonder what’s going on with them. It was more, no one should talk to you like that. They must be a mean person kind of feeling. Maybe she didn’t use those words, but that was what I internalized about it. So, yeah, I totally appreciate that this area is so hard sometimes. I really enjoy hearing you process about it and just opening up to, there’s no one right way, even here. ANNA: Yeah. Something you said too, that I think a lot of us deal with is we take our childhood experiences and I mean, of course, because they’re a part of us, right? And so they become these triggers in these situations with our kids. But I think it’s so important to remember how different the environment is for our kids. You are there to have those conversations and those nuanced pieces. And it is so different. And almost the stakes, while they still feel high, I know what you’re saying, Erika, they are lower. In the sense of my experience of school was just me having to go to this place and figure it all out on my own. I had a close relationship with my mom, but she didn’t know anything about school or the politics of school or what was happening at school. And so I didn’t even bring that to her. I think it’s so different when we’re with our kids more in this weaving in and out of our lives day to day, where they just have that space to talk about their feelings and what’s happening with it. And even if they’re not kids that share every little bit, there’s just some different nuances there related to how we support our kids. So it’s always important for me to remember, that was my experience. And it was so hard because I didn’t have the support. But I guess that’s what I liked about what you said, too, Ari, asking what would I have wanted? Would I really have wanted somebody to jump in and tell me what to do? Or would I have wanted this nonjudgmental space with somebody to help me figure it out for myself? I thought that was really interesting. ARI: I think it’s one of the most rewarding parts of parenting in this way that our kids come to us to process. Like you were describing, Erika, when they just see a moment and they know that it’s always an opportunity to process with mom or anybody here. It’s just a beautifully different environment. PAM: It just reminds me of, I always remember the drive home from Girl Guides meetings. That was always a big processing time. But what stood out for me often was just like you were saying, Erika. It’s like, oh, so-and-so seemed like really out of sorts today or whatever, whatever. And she would be explaining to me, yeah, because X, because Y. Where I feel this defensive mama bear come up. But I got to the space where I could just recognize that in me. Doesn’t make it wrong either, right? Nothing, it’s not wrong, wrong. It’s just recognizing that experience. And then when I just put a little sentence out there, I get the whole context and the understanding. And I was like, oh, yeah. That’s the human being I want to be. ANNA: Whoa, right? It’s not getting defensive. Being able to see other people’s experience. And also, just be able to make that repair if it's needed. Or be open to repair if something’s happened to us. I think it’s a big difference. And it’s a learning process, right? It’s not perfect for any of us at any age. And so this expectation that kids are going to be perfect doesn’t make sense, but it’s creating that environment where that’s possible. And I feel like even, Ari, some of the stuff you’ve talked about on the network, you’ve seen changes in them as they’ve had this freedom. Especially your oldest to really be understood in some of the ways that she was approaching situations. So I think that was really cool. ARI: Absolutely. ANNA: Well, thank you so much. This was a lot of fun and I just really, really enjoyed it. And we hope everybody enjoyed our conversation, maybe had a little aha moment or picked up on some ideas to consider for your own personal journey. And of course, if you enjoy these conversations and want to come hang out with us, we’d love to have you join us at the Living Joyfully Network. It is really such an amazing group of people connecting and having thoughtful conversations about all the things that we encounter in life, our own and our kids and all the things. So we invite you to check it out and see if it fits with our free month offer. And you’ll find the link in the show notes or you can go to livingjoyfully.ca and the link is on the homepage. But thank you so much again for joining us. It was just really great to hang out with you all. ARI: Thank you for having me. PAM: Thank you, Ari. ERIKA: Thank you so much, Ari.

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Brandi Howard and Julie Goldman are back in the studio, and we are diving straight into the chaos of the Summer House finale and the highly anticipated premiere of In The City. We also break down the drama surrounding Alex Cooper's pregnancy announcement. Does she owe a fellow influencer a public apology for how it all went down? Then, we sink our teeth into a truly bizarre murder-for-hire plot involving a pop star, an influencer, and a father-daughter hiking trip that ended in a tragic "accident" and an arrest. Plus, I've got the inside scoop on whether Real Housewives of Rhode Island producers are actually trying to cast the ex of a current Housewife's girlfriend. It is so juicy and so funny, so please enjoy! -Get 20% off your first order, plus free shipping during the Memorial Day Sale at ⁠BollandBranch.com/juicyscoop⁠ with code juicyscoop -Refresh your everyday with luxury you'll actually use. Head to ⁠Quince.com/juicy⁠ for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.  -Go to ⁠RO.CO/JUICYSCOOP to see if you qualify -Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at ⁠SHOPIFY.COM/juicy⁠ Subscribe to my new show Juicy Crimes!: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/juicycrimes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Stand Up Tickets and info: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://heathermcdonald.net⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald and get extra juice on Patreon: https://bit.ly/JuicyScoopPod ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/cw/juicyscoop Watch the Juicy Scoop On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JuicyScoop Shop Juicy Scoop Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://juicyscoopshop.com/ Follow Me on Social Media: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heathermcdonald TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@heathermcdonald YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@HeatherMcDonaldOfficial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices