Podcasts about September Six

In our final conversation with Dr Margaret Toscano, we'll discuss the chapter in Sara Patterson's book, "The Sept 6 & the Struggle for the Soul of Mormonism." Margaret will discuss her and her husband Paul's reaction to Sara's descriptions of them in the book. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/LqxYh6QHY3E Don't miss our other conversations about the Sept Six: https://gospeltangents.com/mormon_history/sept-six/ Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Beyond the Sept 6 More than two decades after the events known as the "Sept 6," Margaret Toscano offers a candid look back, reflecting on the pain of excommunication, the evolution of her personal beliefs, and how she and her husband, Paul Toscano, hope to be remembered beyond that defining moment. Margaret highlights what she feels Patterson's book misses about her and others' journeys since 2003. Toscano reveals that her 2003 interview, featured in the book, captured a time of significant pain. Being kicked out of one's church, even for someone who might not be a "Believer," is deeply painful, particularly when it's tied to one's heritage and family, a sentiment she notes is also true for others like David Wright. She is proud of her ability to navigate that pain and notes the documentation of it in the book is important. Contrary to advice she received to simply "walk away" from Mormonism to heal, Toscano felt compelled to stay engaged. She identifies as Mormon, distinguishing this from being LDS (a member of the LDS Church), and views it as her ethnicity and heritage. This identity is crucial to her, and she has continued to write, research, and discuss Mormon issues, currently working on a book about Heavenly Mother.. Over the past twenty years, Toscano's spiritual journey has evolved. While not a "true believing Mormon," she has reached a point where she can openly say she is a Believer on some level, a stance she felt ashamed of years ago. Her ideas of God are complex and not aligned with traditional Mormon views, but she believes in God, an afterlife, and the soul. She describes herself as a "skeptic believer," a person who doubts everything but has also had experiences that affirm her faith. Crucially, she feels able to claim her spirituality openly, something she couldn't do as easily two decades prior. She asserts that being a scholar and an intellectual is compatible with having faith. A major point of reflection for Toscano is the legacy she and Paul desire. They explicitly state they do not want the September Six to be the sole definition of who they were. Margaret doesn't want to be remembered "simply as a dissident," nor does Paul want to be remembered simply as one of the Sept 6. Toscano highlights that Paul's faith journey continued significantly after 2007, when the book reportedly leaves him having lost his faith. Paul has since "found his faith again," seeing himself as a Mormon Christian with a deep testimony of Jesus Christ, which informs his interpretation of the Book of Mormon and his extensive writing. Margaret is immensely proud of Paul's intellectual output, which includes some fifteen books—theology, memoir, novels, essays, and more. She wishes for him to be remembered primarily as a "man of Mormon letters," an important Mormon intellectual, and a brilliant writer. As for herself, Toscano hopes to be remembered as an important Mormon scholar and a beloved teacher at the University of Utah, emphasizing her continued work and care for the Mormon community. She underscores the importance of remembering and being remembered, noting her critique that the book overlooks the continued contributions and experiences of many involved in the 1993 events, including her own work and relationships since 2003. Toscano also touches on the changes she's observed in Mormon studies and at the Sunstone conference, where she was a frequent participant for decades..

Peggy Fletcher Stack highlights her biggest interviews, significant moments, and enduring themes of her three decades covering religion. Peggy's career at the Salt Lake Tribune has intersected with pivotal historical events and figures. She covered sensitive issues like Catholic abuse and the aftermath of 9/11, immediately being assigned to interview Utah Muslims. She shared a moving story of a young Muslim boy named Osama who faced bullying after 9/11 but later reclaimed his name and faith. https://youtu.be/shlJFq8BV2s Biggest Interviews Covering the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City brought another highlight: interviewing Archbishop Desmond Tutu about forgiveness, an encounter she described as a truly memorable moment despite the initial challenge of getting her story into print. She also had the unique opportunity to spend four days covering the Dalai Lama's visit, with press access to every event. Reporting on leadership transitions within the LDS Church also marked her career. She wrote President Ezra Taft Benson's obituary but never interviewed him as he wasn't publicly visible in his last years. She covered President Howard Hunter's trip to Nauvoo, noting his warmth and the public's desire for physical connection after Benson's absence. The advent of President Gordon B. Hinckley brought a shift; at his first press conference, he stood the entire time and took questions, a departure from past practice. Peggy recalled her own encounter, where President Hinckley showed familiarity with her and her family before she proceeded to ask numerous questions. Notably, she covered President Hinckley's historic 1998 trip to sub-Saharan Africa, the first time an LDS prophet had visited the region. Traveling separately from his group, she managed to secure an interview with him in Zimbabwe, where he famously commented on fighting adulation. This Africa trip stands out as a definitive highlight of her career. Reflecting on her coverage, Peggy connected her most frequent topics to Apostle Boyd K. Packer's 1993 speech identifying feminists, gays, and intellectuals as enemies of the church. She realized these areas – which she terms "pressure points" or "conflicts" – have been the focus of her reporting because journalists cover "planes that crash," not "planes that land on time." This includes covering the September Six excommunications (intellectuals)10, the ongoing evolution of women's issues and gender dynamics (feminism), and the persistently "hot" topic of LGBTQ issues. What about the Women? Peggy also recounted another one of her biggest interviews involving a memorable interaction with President Russell M. Nelson in 2018, where she asked about increasing diversity in church leadership. His initial, somewhat awkward, response focused on knowing her family. He finally answered about international leaders, but he didn't address female leadership, leading her to press him to address the specific question about women: She asked loudly, "What about the women?" She viewed this moment, captured on live TV, as a strange intersection of the personal and professional that ironically benefited her standing with critics from different perspectives. What are your thoughts about Peggy's coverage of the LDS Church specifically? Do you think she is biased one way or the other? Do you listen to Mormon land and/or subscribe to the Salt Lake Tribune? What are some of the biggest interviews we didn't mention? Don't miss our other conversations with Peggy: https://gospeltangents.com/people/peggy-fletcher-stack/ Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved  

In this episode of In Her Image, we are honored to host Maxine Hanks, a renowned historian and theologian whose work focuses on women, gender, and the sacred feminine in Mormon and Christian traditions. Maxine shares her fascinating journey, including her excommunication as one of the September Six in 1993, her 15 years of ministry and interfaith chaplaincy, and her return to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in 2012. We discuss the impact of her groundbreaking book, Women and Authority: Re-emerging Mormon Feminism, first published in 1992. Maxine reflects on her mission to recover the feminist history and theology of the Latter-day Saint tradition, creating a vital resource for those seeking to explore women's roles in the Restoration. She also announces the upcoming reprint of the book in 2025, providing greater access to this transformative work. Maxine's insight into the importance of formal, informal, and personal authority offers a roadmap for integrating women's history and theology more fully into the church today. Maxine shares her perspective on collective vs. personal revelation, and what to do when personal revelation differs from general revelation. She emphasizes maintaining personal convictions while building bridges in love and compassion.

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What most Latter-day Saint historians and other scholars know about D. Michael Quinn is that he was, by all accounts, a remarkable researcher who could assemble disparate dots into a colorful mosaic. They may know that he was excommunicated from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as part of the “September Six” for his discussion of post-Manifesto polygamy and other controversial topics or that he was an expert in the faith's financial dealings and hierarchy. But now, nearly three years after his death at age 77, the public will hear for the first time of his inner struggles as a gay man in the church that for most of his life preached that homosexuality was a sin. Signature Books has now published Quinn's heartbreaking autobiography, titled “Chosen Path: A Memoir,” described as a “relentlessly episodic” look at the deeply personal agonies and ecstasies of his life and work, while offering his perspective on significant church events that occurred while he was writing about Mormonism. Three themes are thread through his entries: his relationship with himself as a closeted gay man, with his oft-absent and secretive father, and with his church. On this week's show, Moshe Quinn, his son, who wrote a foreword, and Barbara Jones Brown, who edited the volume Quinn gleaned from his multiple journals, discuss the revelations in his memoir.

If we take an expanded view of the Sept Six, we'll find others excommunicated for not being orthodox enough (or too orthodox.) Sonia Johnson, Brent Metcalfe, Mark Hofmann, and Avraham Gileadi are some of the people we discuss with Dr Sara Patterson. Should all of them be included in conversations about the September Six? Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/Wt3GQJsCsIw transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission

Dr Sara Patterson discusses the tension between academic freedom and professors denied BYU tenure. While many focus on just the September Six, Dr Sara Patterson thinks some others should be included in the story. She discusses the dismissal of several BYU professors who were let go for from BYU not being orthodox enough. We'll discuss the stories of David Wright, Ceclia Conchar Farr, David Knowlton, and others. It can be difficult to get BYU tenure. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/GRol3z25OIY transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission

Book Club is back with Rebecca Bibliotheca! Joining her and John Dehlin is Dr. Sarah Patterson as she introduces us to her book on the “September Six”, a group of scholars and feminists excommunicated from the LDS Church in September 1993. The interview examines the impact of excommunications, the power of the Church's stance on purity, and the consequences for members. Sarah also highlights the importance of remembering those who paved the way for open conversations and change within the Church. The September Six and the Struggle for the Soul of Mormonism by Sara Patterson Episode Show Notes Watch on YouTube Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon PayPal Venmo Our Platforms: Youtube Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com  PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117  Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

As we conclude the month of September, I wanted to conclude with the full interview of Dr. Michael Quinn. He passed away unexpectedly April 21, 2021. To commemorate the September Six, I'm pulling an interview from the archives with Dr Michael Quinn. Of course he was also excommunicated in 1993. This interview comes from Nov 2017 where Dr Quinn had just released his book "Wealth & Corporate Power" by Signature Books. We also discuss his dealings with Mark Hofmann, LDS Succession, Women & Priesthood, and his role in the September Six. You won't want to miss this conversation.... https://youtu.be/gpi76Ri8n4c Michael Quinn Discusses Deseret Hemp Company Introduction I'm really excited to have Michael Quinn on the show.  In this first episode, we will get more acquainted with him.  We will also talk about the Deseret Hemp Company.  Yes, I said Hemp!  On the ballot this fall is a proposal to legalize medical marijuana here in Utah.  Michael Quinn will talk about a church-owned company that grew hemp right here in Utah!  Will they get back in the business?  Check out our conversation! The Interview GT:            00:00:33          Welcome to Gospel Tangents podcast. I'm really excited. I've got a real rare treat: Mike Quinn, historian Mike Quinn here in Salt Lake City. So, could you introduce yourself to the audience? Not everybody knows about Mormon history and might not know who you are. Can you give us a little bit about your background? Michael:  00:00:52          I was born in California and while I was there, we were always told it was the mission field. I became interested in Mormon history as a hobby when I was 16. And then, when I was in the military and after I graduated from BYU in English literature, I had time to reconsider what I wanted to do as a graduate student while I was in the army for three years and I decided to switch to history because my hobby had become too consuming. So, when I came out of the military, I went to the University of Utah to get a master's degree in history. And then I went from there to Yale. But before that I served as a research and writing assistant to Leonard Arrington while he was the Church Historian. After I got my Ph.D. in history from Yale, three months later, I was hired by the BYU campus to join it's a Department of History and I remained there for 12 years and then have been freelance historian or the term is independent scholar in the field, aside from occasional appointments. I had a two-year appointment at the University of Southern California. And then I had a one-year appointment at Yale University and that was my last academic appointment more than a dozen years ago. GT:            00:02:24          Oh wow, that's cool. So, for those who aren't familiar with your background, I know in the 1980s you wrote a chapter, I believe it was in Maxine Hanks' book.[1] Is that right?   Michael:  00:02:39          Yes, it was actually 1992 that it came out. It was called "Mormon Women Have Had the Priesthood Since 1843." And that caused a certain amount of controversy. GT:            00:02:53          Yeah. Could you, could you tell us a little bit more about that? Michael:  00:02:56          Maxine was excommunicated. I was excommunicated, and she was specifically told that she was excommunicated because of her book and I was told--I was given a list of three items showing my apostasy, a list provided by the stake president and the first item on the list was that essay. GT:            00:03:20          Okay. So you're one of the, I guess infamous September Six,[2] right? Michael:  00:03:26          That's correct. GT:            00:03:29          So,  the one thing that I think would strike most people is a little bit odd, I know I listened to your Radio West interview[3] earlier this week and you mentioned that you're still a believing Mormon. So, some people might think, well, if you're excommunicated,

Lynne Whitesides was the first person punished in the September Six. She shares her story of why she wasn't excommunicated, who was involved, and where she is on her spiritual journey now. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/kk4ldrx61TI   transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission

Janice Allred wrote about God the Mother back in the late 1980s and early 1990s. While she wasn't excommunicated in 1993, Janice Allred had a bird's eye view of  the Sept Six. In Sept 1993, 6 intellectuals were excommunicated or disfellowshipped from the LDS Church for writing and speaking about things the LDS Church apostles disagreed with. Both she and her sister Margaret Toscano received warnings from their bishops as Margaret's husband Paul was a member of teh September Six and excommunicated. Janice will share her memories of that important month in Mormon history. Check out our conversation.... https://youtu.be/qs9gIZSxiv8 transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission

Tickets for Mormon Land Live can be found here: givebutter.com/Vl1q3T In September 1993, six Latter-day Saint scholars and activists were disciplined for their critical writings about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It was an extraordinary confluence of events, one that has echoed down through the decades. The censures had a chilling effect on a generation of would-be Latter-day Saint scholars but within 10 years or so the church felt the impact of the internet, with its widespread distribution and democratization of information. Now, 30 years later, many observers are assessing what happened that month and what its legacy has been in the global faith of 17 million members. In her new book, “The September Six and the Struggle for the Soul of Mormonism,” Sara M. Patterson, a professor of theology and gender studies at Indiana's Hanover College, puts the episode within a much broader, decadeslong cultural and theological debate over the nature of the Utah-based faith and its evolving narrative. In this week's episode, she shares her findings about those past events, how they continue to affect the present, and what they may portend for the future.

In this special episode of Dialogue Out Loud, Editor Taylor Petrey moderates a panel discussion with Amanda Hendrix-Komoto, Patrick Q. Mason, Benjamin E. Park, Jana Riess, and Kristine Haglund. “In September 1993, six people were… The post Contemporary Perspectives on the September Six, Thirty Years On appeared first on Dialogue Journal.

Celeste Maloy wins in a tight Utah 2nd Congressional District GOP primary. Groups sue Utah, trying to save Great Salt Lake through the public trust doctrine. And 30 years after the “September Six” purge, would The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints do it again? At 9 a.m. on Friday, Salt Lake Tribune reporters Emily Anderson Stern, Leia…

September marks the 30th anniversary of the September Six. Before we get to them, we'll talk to Moroni Jessop, who was excommunicated as a teenager from the LDS Church, the first of his 4 excommunications! I think that's a record! He'll describe growing up in the LDS Church and what got him in hot water. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/j___kmv-LdE transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission

The Sept 6 Excommunications - Learn about them, know about them, pass on their stories.  Lynne Kanavel Whitesides, Avraham Gileadi, Paul Toscano, Maxine Hanks, Lavina Fielding Anderson and D. Michael Quinn   Trauma Bonded: A true story of navigating relationships built in Complex PTSD by Sarah Westbrook. https://www.amazon.com/Trauma-Bonded-Navigating-Attachments-Complex-ebook/dp/B0C9K6XNHS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1NQLVNLXT76FY&keywords=trauma+bonded&qid=1692559508&sprefix=trauma+bonded%2Caps%2C125&sr=8-1 A people's History of the United States by Howard Zinn. https://www.amazon.com/Peoples-History-United-States-Present/dp/B0030MR076/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3C9SXBJPH41VH&keywords=a+peoples+history+of+the+united+states+howard+zinn&qid=1692559623&sprefix=a+peopl%2Caps%2C144&sr=8-1 https://wasmormon.org/mormon-excommunications-the-september-six-and-more/ Unpacking Mormonism and other religious trauma. Episode 24 https://open.spotify.com/episode/34BhFvqKSApYliy5cl1h2m https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_Six https://www.lds-mormon.com/sepsix-shtml/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKAOj7uqqo4 https://wheatandtares.org/2023/01/16/30-years-later-sept-six-hofmann/ http://archives.lib.byu.edu/repositories/14/resources/2032    

“Spiritual Paths of the September Six Thirty Uears Later,” Feat. Elbert Peck, Sara M. Patterson, Magaret Toscano, Lynne Whitesides, Maxine Hanks, Barbara Jones Brown, Paul Toscana & Janice Allred. Recorded live July 29, 2023 The post The September Six, Thirty Years On: Sunstone Session “Spiritual Paths of the September Six” appeared first on Dialogue Journal.

We know that you know that September 4th is the world premiere of Season 2 of UM, but did you remember that we will also be dropping a special BONUS with a B episode on September 6th to celebrate the official release of Sarah's first book and to commemorate The September Six? Did ya? Huh? Well, now you know. 

Dear listener, a lot of care and attention goes into these descriptions. I'm trying to give you just enough to make you push that play button, or perhaps sufficient enough to make a note in your brain to listen later, and then sometimes as I sit at the keyboard, mouth agape, because there are clips like today's that are difficult to communicate. Two words, $#!* mural.  One week from today! The new season launches, and then on September 6th, an additional bonus FULL episode about the September Six.  Let's talk turkey; we would love for you to show us some support. You can give us a like, review, share our show, or come down to the Facebook group and let us know how we are doing so far. You can purchase Sarah's true story here to show us immense support.  https://www.amazon.com/Trauma-Bonded-Navigating-Attachments-Complex/dp/B0CBD6G2W4

TRIGGER WARNING: Mentions of Sexual Assault, Rape, Child Abuse The bombshell article by the Associated Press about the LDS Church's abuse cover-up in Arizona and West Virgina has taken the Mormon community by storm. As the kickoff episode to our series covering the Mormon church's handling of abuse John, Jenn, and Gerardo will react to a shocking 2018 interview by Gina Colvin with attorney Tim Kosnoff about his experiences representing over 150 Mormon sexual abuse victims that have brought him face-to-face with Kirton & McConkie and the Mormon law machine. On Friday we will be interviewing Tim Kosnoff in studio to discuss the AP article in more detail, provide an update on the church's handling of abuse cases, and to discuss the Boy Scouts of America case. A link to Gina's original interview is in the show notes below. ________ WE ARE 100% DONOR FUNDED! Thank you for your donations! Monthly Donor: Monthly Donor or https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories  One Time Donation: One Time Donation or https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories   Amazon Purchases:  ONLINE: Follow the link below and choose "Mormon Stories". Amazon will do the rest at no cost to you. Amazon Donates When You Purchase Items APP: Enable Amazon Smile in your app by following link below: Amazon Donates When You Purchase On The App ————— Like & Share our Podcasts!  Social Media/Information Links: MSP on Spotify Apple Podcasts MSP Blog Instagram Patreon TikTok Discord   Contact Us! MormonStories@gmail.com   Mormon Stories Podcast PO Box 171085 Salt Lake City, UT 84117 #LDS #Mormon #PostMormon #ExMormon #MormonStories #Religion #Education #Truth #History #JosephSmith #ChurchofJesusChristofLatterDaySaints #HighDemandReligion #Cult #Patriarchy #WomensRights Show notes:  A Thoughtful Faith Podcast Ep 258: Taking the Mormons to Court: Defending Sexual Abuse Victims against the LDS Church: Tim Kosnoff Donate to A Thoughtful Faith Podcast Saints for All Seasons: Lavina Fielding Anderson and Bernard Shaw's "Joan of Arc" Writer excommunicated during ‘September Six' purge loses her bid to rejoin the LDS Church The LDS Intellectual Community and Church Leadership: A Contemporary Chronology [PDF] 542-543: Gina Colvin – KiwiMormon and Fearless/Faithful Mormon Heretic The Sins of Brother Curtis Spotlight Movie Seven years of sex abuse: How Mormon officials let it happen Church Offers Statement on Help Line and Abuse (Response to AP) 1550-1551: Speaking Out When a Mormon Bishop Abuses Children – Kolby & Cami Reddish  

Scripture symbolism is tough. So is LDS Temple symbolism. Paul Toscano has a book, “The Serpent & the Dove” that explains temple symbolism. That may surprise you, because he is infamous for his excommunication as part of the September Six. We'll touch on that briefly, but, we'll talk about the nature of scripture and temple […]

Almost a year ago, noted Latter-day Saint historian and prodigious researcher D. Michael Quinn died at age 77. Quinn, who retained his belief in the founding events of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints until his death, was pressured to resign from Brigham Young University and subsequently excommunicated from the faith in 1993 as part of the famed “September Six” for his writings about women and the priesthood, as well as about post-Manifesto polygamy. For the past 11 months, friends and fellow academics have discussed the scholar's legacy. On March 25, many of them will gather at the University of Utah for a one-day conference to examine and celebrate Quinn's life. In addition, Signature Books recently published a new biography of Quinn by historian and archivist Gary Topping. Titled simply “D. Michael Quinn: Mormon Historian,” the book helps flesh out the multiple aspects of Quinn's identity as queer, Chicano and fiercely independent. Meanwhile, Barbara Jones Brown, Signature's new director, is researching Quinn's unpublished memoirs, discovered by his children after his death. On this week's show, Topping and Brown examine Quinn's life and legacy, his battles with the faith's hierarchy and with his own identity, as well as his unwavering commitment to an honest telling of Mormon history and how he was ahead of his time.

Please note, your hosts audio sounds super quiet in this episode. There aren't any technical issues as such, its simply that Dr Sheldon's voice sounds like the voice of an Archangel! We'll try to compensate by upping our volume the next time he joins us! Join us for this week's Livestream as we introduce Dr Sheldon Greaves, host of the Discovering The Old Testament Podcast Series. You're going to love him! This is the first in a new series which is going to change the way you look at scripture. Dr Greaves has a Ph.D. in ancient Near Eastern Studies from the University of California at Berkeley in 1996, with his main area of emphasis on the Hebrew Bible. This episode sees us discuss Dr Greave's LDS background, his education as a biblical scholar, the September Six, his fascinating career which has included training spies and cyber security, his Discovering The Old Testament Podcast, and his approach to biblical scholarship. Show notes Dr Sheldon Greaves blog https://www.lafkospress.com/about-us/... Dialogue Journal Summer 2009 The Education of A Bible Scholar by Dr Sheldon Greaves https://www.dialoguejournal.com/artic... Discovering the Old Testament Podcast can be found wherever you get your podcasts. Dr Greaves collaboration with Miguel Barker-Valdez podcasts episodes are available on the Rational Faith Podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jane-christie/message

Please note, your hosts audio sounds super quiet in this episode. There aren't any technical issues as such, its simply that Dr Sheldon's voice sounds like the voice of an Archangel! We'll try to compensate by upping our volume the next time he joins us! Join us for this week's Livestream as we introduce Dr Sheldon Greaves, host of the Discovering The Old Testament Podcast Series. You're going to love him! This is the first in a new series which is going to change the way you look at scripture. Dr Greaves has a Ph.D. in ancient Near Eastern Studies from the University of California at Berkeley in 1996, with his main area of emphasis on the Hebrew Bible. This episode sees us discuss Dr Greave's LDS background, his education as a biblical scholar, the September Six, his fascinating career which has included training spies and cyber security, his Discovering The Old Testament Podcast, and his approach to biblical scholarship. Show notes Dr Sheldon Greaves blog https://www.lafkospress.com/about-us/... Dialogue Journal Summer 2009 The Education of A Bible Scholar by Dr Sheldon Greaves https://www.dialoguejournal.com/artic... Discovering the Old Testament Podcast can be found wherever you get your podcasts. Dr Greaves collaboration with Miguel Barker-Valdez podcasts episodes are available on the Rational Faith Podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jane-christie/message

D. Michael Quinn, the noted historian who died last week at 77, had an outsized impact on academic explorations of the church’s past. He was a prodigious researcher, who wrote 10 books and numerous essays. Though a believer in the faith’s founding events, Quinn resigned from church-owned Brigham Young University under pressure and subsequently was excommunicated from the faith in 1993 as part of the famed “September Six” for his writings about women and the priesthood, as well as about post-Manifesto polygamy. On this week’s show, Ross Peterson, retired professor of history at Utah State University and former editor of Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, discusses Quinn’s life and work.

This is a special episode just to let everyone know we have officially opened enrolment to the highly anticipated September Six figure Mastermind Group. If you want to know more about this listen here and then go visit sixfiguregrowth.com before its too late.

In the seventh Dialogue Heritage podcast, Editor Taylor Petrey and Art Editor Andi Pitcher Davis consider the Dialogue years of 1995 thru 1999, the years following the September Six and the injunction against symposia.  Could progressives still find a place in the church? Could Dialogue be a home for thoughtful and faithful scholars? Included are Continue Reading »

We got our first one star review, but we don't get it! 2 Corinthians 1-7 One of the September Six has her petition for reinstatement denied

On this episode, Dr. Quinn picks up right where we left off in part 1. Mike tells us about his disagreements with the general direction of BYU Mormon History academia. New Mormon History is born as the Church Historian's Archives are opened and a new influx of independent researchers get their eyes on crucial previously-censored documents. Mark Hoffman shaped the realm of Mormon history while the feminizing of the academic field begins to gain serious traction. Quinn publishes articles and reviews in support of the scholarship coming from women's groups concerning women holding the priesthood and then writes his seminal Early Mormonism and the Magic World View. He tenders his resignation then goes into hiding from church authority to evade excommunication. Finally, Women and Authority is published which was plutonium to many scholars who were somehow involved, including Quinn. 5 excommunications and 1 disfellowshipping go down in infamy as the "September Six". Please support Quinn's scholarship by purchasing his books from these fine retailers: Early Mormonism and the Magic World View http://www.signaturebooks.com/product/early-mormonism-and-the-magic-world-view/ Same-Sex Dynamics Among Nineteenth-Century Americans https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/catalog/74dbx6fq9780252069581.html Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power http://www.signaturebooks.com/product/the-mormon-hierarchy-origins-of-power/ Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power http://www.signaturebooks.com/product/the-mormon-hierarchy-extensions-of-power/ Mormon Hierarchy: Wealth and Corporate Power http://www.signaturebooks.com/product/mormon-hierarchy-wealth-and-corporate-power/ Show Links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com Twitter @NakedMormonism Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naked-Mormonism/370003839816311 Patreon http://patreon.com/nakedmormonism Music by Jason Comeau http://aloststateofmind.com/ Show Artwork http://weirdmormonshit.com/ Legal Counsel http://patorrez.com/

From the September Six to Bill Reel, we go through a highlight reel of some of the more prominent excommunications by the Mormon church. The takeaway? If you speak out publicly against the leadership, even if the criticism is true, it’s only a matter of time before you’re on the chopping block. After that Braden tells us about the new Leah Remini series “Scientology: The Aftermath”. We wrap up with Patagonia taking climate change seriously and actually doing something about it.   Excommunication linkshttp://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=3791111&itype=CMSID http://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=2163720&itype=CMSID https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Kelly_(feminist) http://mormon-alliance.org/about.htm http://www.lds-mormon.com/whytemplechanges.shtml https://www.lds.org/ensign/1991/11/news-of-the-church/statement-on-symposia?lang=eng https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1989/04/alternate-voices?lang=eng https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunstone_(magazine) https://www.nytimes.com/1993/09/19/us/mormons-penalize-dissident-members.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKjASwbutsE https://www.deseretnews.com/article/476161/SCHOLAR-REBAPTIZED-INTO-LDS-CHURCH.html http://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=58060420&itype=CMSID https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=35648 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Alliance http://signaturebookslibrary.org/840/   Light of Gazalem https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-28/patagonia-donates-10-million-trump-tax-savings-to-green-groups?srnd=premium   Show links: Website http://www.glassboxpodcast.com/index.html Find us on Facebook and Twitter @Glass Box Podcast

Dr. Nancy Ross and Sara Hanks, co-authors of "Where We Must Stand" discuss their experiences blogging at Feminist Mormon Housewives, and putting together a book on the first 10 years of the blog.  They discusses some of the feminist successes & setbacks between 2012-2014.  What were some of the successes in pushing for change within the LDS Church? https://youtu.be/c_uF51IVmZg Nancy:But at that time the community was all about activism, or so much of the community conversation turned to activism. Really. In the middle of 2012, and this is covered in the book, there's a little activist action to try and better understand different temples' policies with regard to women and young women doing baptisms for the dead while menstruating. And so, there are a bunch of phone calls made and they try to get information about what different temples policies are with the idea that, you might show up at a temple and they might have a different policy and that might make people feel excluded or embarrassed. Sara: Embarrassed. Yeah. Nancy: And so that happens in the middle of 2012. By the end of 2012, we've got the first "Wear pants to church day," and then that's followed by, "Let Women Pray," and the advent of "Let Women Pray was it's own activist event to try and ask church leaders to let a woman pray in general conference which happened with Jean Stephens, which is super exciting. Sara: Yeah. Nancy:And then we've got the arrival of Ordain Women in the Spring of 2013. And so leading up to Kate Kelly's excommunication, like from the middle of 2012 to the middle of 2014, there was just so much momentum in the community for like, Hey, we can change things. With the temple baptisms issue after all of this information gathering, someone was able to kind of make a connection further up the chain in the church and then the church issued a clarification to say no, we need all the temples to allow women young women to participate in baptisms regardless of whether or not they're menstruating. And that was, that felt huge. Concerning Kate Kelly's excommunicationin 2014, Sara: One part of the feeling was just so much shock, because not only had we felt really hopeful for the possibilities of change, but we also kind of were under the impression as a community at large that with the advent of the Internet and so much attention being paid to the church and so much possibility for exposing problems or injustices that the church wouldn't take the sort of actions that they had taken when it came to Sonia Johnson in the 70's or the September Six in the early 90's or the, the professors at BYU who were censured. We thought, "They wouldn't because it would be too much of a risk. There would be too much backlash." Nancy: And it was also right in the middle of that Mormon moment. And the church had done the "I'm a Mormon" campaign. They had spent so much time, effort, energy and resources trying to make the church look good in the eyes of the public. Check out our conversation… Co-authors Sara Hanks, and Dr. Nancy Ross discuss their book "Where We Must Stand: Ten Years of Feminist Mormon Housewives." You might want to check out our other conversations on Women's studies. 189: Women Have Had Priesthood since 1843! (Quinn) 165:  Elder Oaks Groundbreaking Talk on Women & Priesthood(Stapley) 164:  The Mormon Priestess & Ordain Women (Stapley) 163:  Women Healers in LDS Temples (Stapley) 134: Role of Women in 4 American Religions (Bringhurst) 066: Women Will Not Hold Priesthood! (Vun Cannon) 049: Mormon Polyandry:  More Than One Husband? (Hales)

Christine Jeppsen Clark is a mother of six, a former Mormon Tabernacle Choir member, a Ph.D. graduate student focusing on dementia, and a dear personal friend. She is also the daughter of the late Elder Malcolm S. Jeppsen: former LDS General Authority, personal physician and best friend to Elder Boyd K. Packer, and a GA who was directly involved in the excommunication of Avraham Gileadi (one of the September Six). In this multi-part episode with Christine we discuss: What it was like to grow up in the 1950s and 1960s in Salt Lake City as a very orthodox, devout member of a somewhat elite LDS family? What it was like to grow up the daughter of an LDS General Authority, who was both a physician to, and best friends with Elder Boyd K. Packer? Elder Jeppsen’s personal and direct involvement in the excommunication of Avraham Giliadi -- one of the September Six. How such an orthodox, committed LDS family including Christine (the daughter of a General Authority), her husband David Clark (former bishop of eight years, recent Stake Presidency member) and four of her six children could ultimately decide to leave the LDS Church, and What it’s like to leave the LDS Church as a grandparent in your 50s and 60s.

Christine Jeppsen Clark is a mother of six, a former Mormon Tabernacle Choir member, a Ph.D. graduate student focusing on dementia, and a dear personal friend. She is also the daughter of the late Elder Malcolm S. Jeppsen: former LDS General Authority, personal physician and best friend to Elder Boyd K. Packer, and a GA who was directly involved in the excommunication of Avraham Gileadi (one of the September Six). In this multi-part episode with Christine we discuss: What it was like to grow up in the 1950s and 1960s in Salt Lake City as a very orthodox, devout member of a somewhat elite LDS family? What it was like to grow up the daughter of an LDS General Authority, who was both a physician to, and best friends with Elder Boyd K. Packer? Elder Jeppsen’s personal and direct involvement in the excommunication of Avraham Giliadi -- one of the September Six. How such an orthodox, committed LDS family including Christine (the daughter of a General Authority), her husband David Clark (former bishop of eight years, recent Stake Presidency member) and four of her six children could ultimately decide to leave the LDS Church, and What it’s like to leave the LDS Church as a grandparent in your 50s and 60s.

On today’s episode of the "Mormon News Review," we discuss: Pope Francis’ recent interview in "America: The National Catholic Review" and possible implications for the LDS church. Two articles written by Peggy Fletcher Stack on the 20th anniversary of the September Six. Elder D. Todd Christofferson‘s devotional delivered on September 24th at BYU Idaho entitled "The Prophet Joseph Smith." Joining us are three panelists: Right: Ralph Hancock is the President of the John Adams Center for the Study of Faith, Philosophy and Public Affairs. He is also a professor of Political Science at Brigham Young University, and a former intramural basketball teammate. Center: Mark Phillips is an active member of the LDS church in Los Angeles, and a former bishop. He is a husband, a father, an attorney, a musician, and he promises not to agree with everyone. Left: Lindsay Hansen Park is a Mormon Feminist and a work-from-home mother of two in Stansbury Park. She works as Social Media director for Sunstone, hosts and founded the feministmormonhousewives podcast, and is engaged in women’s issues and global activism.

Christine Jeppsen Clark is a mother of six, a former Mormon Tabernacle Choir member, a Ph.D. graduate student focusing on dementia, and a dear personal friend. She is also the daughter of the late Elder Malcolm S. Jeppsen: former LDS General Authority, personal physician and best friend to Elder Boyd K. Packer, and a GA who was directly involved in the excommunication of Avraham Gileadi (one of the September Six). In this multi-part episode with Christine we discuss: What it was like to grow up in the 1950s and 1960s in Salt Lake City as a very orthodox, devout member of a somewhat elite LDS family? What it was like to grow up the daughter of an LDS General Authority, who was both a physician to, and best friends with Elder Boyd K. Packer? Elder Jeppsen’s personal and direct involvement in the excommunication of Avraham Giliadi -- one of the September Six. How such an orthodox, committed LDS family including Christine (the daughter of a General Authority), her husband David Clark (former bishop of eight years, recent Stake Presidency member) and four of her six children could ultimately decide to leave the LDS Church, and What it’s like to leave the LDS Church as a grandparent in your 50s and 60s.

Christine Jeppsen Clark is a mother of six, a former Mormon Tabernacle Choir member, a Ph.D. graduate student focusing on dementia, and a dear personal friend. She is also the daughter of the late Elder Malcolm S. Jeppsen: former LDS General Authority, personal physician and best friend to Elder Boyd K. Packer, and a GA who was directly involved in the excommunication of Avraham Gileadi (one of the September Six). In this multi-part episode with Christine we discuss: What it was like to grow up in the 1950s and 1960s in Salt Lake City as a very orthodox, devout member of a somewhat elite LDS family? What it was like to grow up the daughter of an LDS General Authority, who was both a physician to, and best friends with Elder Boyd K. Packer? Elder Jeppsen’s personal and direct involvement in the excommunication of Avraham Giliadi -- one of the September Six. How such an orthodox, committed LDS family including Christine (the daughter of a General Authority), her husband David Clark (former bishop of eight years, recent Stake Presidency member) and four of her six children could ultimately decide to leave the LDS Church, and What it’s like to leave the LDS Church as a grandparent in your 50s and 60s.

In part 4 of this 4 part series, Elbert Eugene Peck (editor of Sunstone Magazine from 1986 to 2001) discusses the September Six excommunications, the decline of Sunstone, and his thoughts on Sunstone's future.

In part 3 of this 4 part series, Elbert Eugene Peck (editor of Sunstone Magazine from 1986 to 2001) discusses the events leading up to the September Six excommunications of 1993, including the"Alternative Voices" and warnings against Symposia statements by LDS leaders.

In part 3 of this 4 part series, Elbert Eugene Peck (editor of Sunstone Magazine from 1986 to 2001) discusses the events leading up to the September Six excommunications of 1993, including the "Alternative Voices" and warnings against Symposia statements by LDS leaders.

In part 4 of this 4 part series, Elbert Eugene Peck (editor of Sunstone Magazine from 1986 to 2001) discusses the September Six excommunications, the decline of Sunstone, and his thoughts on Sunstone's future.

In part 4 of this 4 part series, Elbert Eugene Peck (editor of Sunstone Magazine from 1986 to 2001) discusses the September Six excommunications, the decline of Sunstone, and his thoughts on Sunstone's future.

In part 3 of this 4 part series, Elbert Eugene Peck (editor of Sunstone Magazine from 1986 to 2001) discusses the events leading up to the September Six excommunications of 1993, including the "Alternative Voices" and warnings against Symposia statements by LDS leaders.