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  In the January 12, 2025 episode of The Interpreter Radio Show, our hosts are Martin Tanner, Terry Hutchinson and Mark Johnson with special guest Barbara Jones Brown. They discuss NetFlix's American Primeval, Barbara's new book, Vengeance Is Mine: The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath by Richard E. Turley and Barbara Jones Brown; and […] The post Interpreter Radio Show — January 12, 2025 first appeared on The Interpreter Foundation.

In May 2023 Richard Turley and Barbara Jones Brown published a book through Oxford University Press entitled Vengeance is Mine, which documents the aftermath of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, including the efforts of Church and civic leaders in southern Utah to conceal their involvement in the atrocity through witness silencing and misinformation, as well as evading or stalling investigations by both government agencies and church organizations by lack of cooperation and political maneuvering. They also chronicle details about the nine individuals who were ultimately indicted, the five who were apprehended, and John D. Lee, who ultimately faced execution. In this episode of Church History Matters, we sit down with both Richard Turley and Barbara Jones Brown to discuss their important book, to hear their informed insights and perspectives, and to consider what Latter-day Saints and others can learn from this tragedy and how we can productively move forward. For show notes and transcript for this and other episodes go to https://doctrineandcovenantscentral.org/church-history-matters-podcast/   

On this special episode of Mormonish Podcast, Rebecca and Landon are invited to tape an episode from Signature Books headquarters itself as we interview the wonderful Laurie Lee Hall and editor Barbara Jones Brown about Laurie Lee's upcoming memoir, "Dictates of Conscience: From Mormon High Priest to my New Life as a Woman."Laurie Lee delves into her life as the LDS Chief Temple Architect, meetings with upper LDS church leadership, keeping and losing her job, church discipline, finding love, the LDS church's updated trans policy, and more. Make sure to order Laurie Lee's book, you'll love it!https://www.amazon.com/Dictates-Conscience-Mormon-Priest-Woman/dp/1560854790***How to DONATE to Mormonish Podcast: If you would like to help financially support our podcast, you can DONATE to support Mormonish Podcast here:DONATE THROUGH DONORBOXhttps://donorbox.org/mormonish-podcastMormonish Podcast is a 501(c) (3) https://donorbox.org/mormonish-podcast ****WE HAVE MERCH! **** If you'd like to purchase Mormonish Merch, you can visit our Merch store here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/mormonishmerch We appreciate our Mormonish viewers and listeners so much! Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE to Mormonish Podcast.

Welcome to a recap of the multi-part series on The Mountain Meadows Massacre with historian, author, director of Signature Books, content editor of the award-winning "Massacre at Mountain Meadows" and co-author of "Vengeance Is Mine, The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath" Barbara Jones Brown!In this live steam we ask Barbara the quick facts on the Mountain Meadows Massacre, a tragic event in Mormon history where a group of Mormons in 1857 killed a large group of innocent men, women, and children. With Destiny begging to Manifest in the 1850s, the US government was hot for an economic and cultural superiority expansion. Mormons had their backs! Or DID they?Here's the overview of all the forces at play that led otherwise sane people (hold your jokes) to commit heinous acts of violence on innocent people.Pick up the book Vengeance Is Mine from your local bookseller or online: https://www.amazon.com/Vengeance-Mine-Mountain-Massacre-Aftermath/dp/0195397851Listen to the audiobook of Vengeance Is Mine: https://www.audible.com/pd/Vengeance-Is-Mine-Audiobook/B0C6FPQFB5?eac_link=QUOOMHSekDaE&ref=web_search_eac_asin_3&eac_selected_type=asin&eac_selected=B0C6FPQFB5&qid=xMIVfP7ajx&eac_id=140-1729692-0760619_xMIVfP7ajx&sr=1-3All my links and info on the group trip to Greece!

Ben and Charlie are joined by historian Barbara Jones Brown to discuss how they work through difficult things that past church leaders have said.

What most Latter-day Saint historians and other scholars know about D. Michael Quinn is that he was, by all accounts, a remarkable researcher who could assemble disparate dots into a colorful mosaic. They may know that he was excommunicated from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as part of the “September Six” for his discussion of post-Manifesto polygamy and other controversial topics or that he was an expert in the faith's financial dealings and hierarchy. But now, nearly three years after his death at age 77, the public will hear for the first time of his inner struggles as a gay man in the church that for most of his life preached that homosexuality was a sin. Signature Books has now published Quinn's heartbreaking autobiography, titled “Chosen Path: A Memoir,” described as a “relentlessly episodic” look at the deeply personal agonies and ecstasies of his life and work, while offering his perspective on significant church events that occurred while he was writing about Mormonism. Three themes are thread through his entries: his relationship with himself as a closeted gay man, with his oft-absent and secretive father, and with his church. On this week's show, Moshe Quinn, his son, who wrote a foreword, and Barbara Jones Brown, who edited the volume Quinn gleaned from his multiple journals, discuss the revelations in his memoir.

This is part four where Barbara and I discuss the Mountain Meadows Massacre, a tragic event in Mormon history where a group of Mormons in 1857 killed a large group of innocent men, women, and children.We kick things off with a review of the brutal crime of wiping out all the innocent people including young witnesses. As tensions soar, the Mormon leaders are left reeling at the shocking aftermath of their actions. Lies fly and a frantic cover-up ensues, leaving everyone scrambling to keep their secrets buried. The whole situation blows wide open when freighters stumble upon the scene. Amidst the chaos, questions arise about what the orphaned kids might know and how to make them forget. Things take an even more sinister turn when leaders start bragging about their misdeeds in church and resort to making violent threats, then telling prophet Brigham Young a fictionalized version of events.Pick up the book Vengeance Is Mine from your local bookseller or online: https://www.amazon.com/Vengeance-Mine-Mountain-Massacre-Aftermath/dp/0195397851Listen to the audiobook of Vengeance Is Mine: https://www.audible.com/pd/Vengeance-Is-Mine-Audiobook/B0C6FPQFB5?eac_link=QUOOMHSekDaE&ref=web_search_eac_asin_3&eac_selected_type=asin&eac_selected=B0C6FPQFB5&qid=xMIVfP7ajx&eac_id=140-1729692-0760619_xMIVfP7ajx&sr=1-3

Rebecca and John are joined once again by Barbara Jones Brown and special guest, Moshe Quinn. Join us for the unveiling of a hidden legacy as Moshe Quinn shares his father's untold memoir with the world. We'll unravel the layers of D. Michael Quinn's remarkable journey — a path marked by secrecy, conviction, and unwavering faith. Delve into the complexities of identity, family dynamics, and the pursuit of truth as we navigate through the pages of a life story that defies conventions and embraces honesty. Chosen Path: A Memoir: Quinn, D. Michael, Quinn, Moshe | Amazon.com Episode Show Notes YouTube Link Co-host: Rebecca Bibliotheca The Good Book Club: For post and nuanced Mormons Mormon.ish Podcast Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon PayPal Venmo Our Platforms: Youtube Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com  PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117  Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

Chosen Path, a memoir by D. Michael Quinn is a story of self-denial and inner struggle, while Michael strove to follow through on his personal commitments faithfully. The memoir, published by Signature Books is an intimate look into the life of one of Mormonism's most prolific historians of church governance and LGBTQ intersections. Moshe Quinn, son of Michael Quinn and Barbara Jones Brown sit down to share a story of truth, struggle, excommunication, and honor. The book is available at your local bookstore, or available online through Signature Books and Amazon. Moshe is the youngest son of Mormon historian, D Michael Quinn. In some ways intersecting between them, Moshe has pursued the humanities and the arts through his life, with more emphasis than his father on the arts. He lives in the Bay Area where he teaches photography, digital art and filmmaking with high school students. Barbara Jones Brown is a historian and the director of Signature Books Publishing. She is excited that Signature has just published D. Michael Quinn's memoir, Chosen Path, and will be also be publishing the memoir of Laurie Lee Hall, a leader in the transgender community. In May 2024, Signature will also publish The Book of Queer Mormon Joy, an anthology of personal stories from across the LGBTQ spectrum.

I've started a new multi-part series on The Mountain Meadows Massacre with historian, author, director of Signature Books, content editor of the award-winning "Massacre at Mountain Meadows" and co-author of "Vengeance Is Mine, The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath" Barbara Jones Brown.This is part three where Barbara and I discuss the Mountain Meadows Massacre, a tragic event in Mormon history where a group of Mormons in 1857 killed a large group of innocent men, women, and children. Practice self-care, grab a box of tissues, and buckle up for the horrifying story of the Mountain Meadows Massacre as we delve into the tragic events that unfolded on September 11th, 1857. Barbara brings to light the complex and heart-wrenching story of this massacre for listeners with a complete murder-by-murder breakdown for you as you break down. With Barbara's dedication to researching this massacre, giving a voice to the defenseless victims, and her heartfelt storytelling, you'll leave this episode rocked to your very core.We also touch on Barbara's personal journey of uncovering her ancestral connection to this dark chapter in Mormon history. Join us in honoring the memory of the victims and exploring the significant lessons this incident holds for us today. Don't forget to share your thoughts and subscribe for deeper historical explorations on Mormon history.Pick up the book Vengeance Is Mine from your local bookseller or online: https://www.amazon.com/Vengeance-Mine-Mountain-Massacre-Aftermath/dp/0195397851Listen to the audiobook of Vengeance Is Mine: https://www.audible.com/pd/Vengeance-Is-Mine-Audiobook/B0C6FPQFB5?eac_link=QUOOMHSekDaE&ref=web_search_eac_asin_3&eac_selected_type=asin&eac_selected=B0C6FPQFB5&qid=xMIVfP7ajx&eac_id=140-1729692-0760619_xMIVfP7ajx&sr=1-3

In this second episode of our series, historian Barbara Jones Brown takes us through the violent rhetoric on behalf of Mormon leaders that led up to the Mountain Meadows Massacre. From 1856 to 1857 in Utah, Mormon prophet Brigham Young played a role in shaping the mindset of the Mormon settlers resulting in a theocracy, heaps of polygamy, and the idea that avenging the blood of prophets was the only rational thing to do. Blood atonement and the Mormon Reformation are key aspects to understanding the religious doctrine and context of the time that shed light on the motivations and justifications used by the perpetrators of the massacre.Pick up the book Vengeance Is Mine from your local bookseller or online: https://www.amazon.com/Vengeance-Mine-Mountain-Massacre-Aftermath/dp/0195397851Listen to the audiobook of Vengeance Is Mine: https://www.audible.com/pd/Vengeance-Is-Mine-Audiobook/B0C6FPQFB5?eac_link=QUOOMHSekDaE&ref=web_search_eac_asin_3&eac_selected_type=asin&eac_selected=B0C6FPQFB5&qid=xMIVfP7ajx&eac_id=140-1729692-0760619_xMIVfP7ajx&sr=1-3

Exciting news! I am starting a new multi-part series on The Mountain Meadows Massacre with historian, author, director of Signature Books, content editor of the award-winning "Massacre at Mountain Meadows" and co-author of "Vengeance Is Mine, The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath" Barbara Jones Brown!This is part one where Barbara and I discuss the Mountain Meadows Massacre, a tragic event in Mormon history where a group of Mormons in 1857 killed a large group of innocent men, women, and children. With Destiny begging to Manifest in the 1850s, the US government was hot for an economic and cultural superiority expansion. Mormons had their backs! Or DID they? Here's the overview of all the forces at play that led otherwise sane people (hold your jokes) to commit heinous acts of violence on innocent people.

On this special episode of Mormonish, Rebecca and Landon have the opportunity to film at the Signature Books headquarters. as we interview the Executive Director of Signature Books, Barbara Jones Brown and Moshe Quinn, son of D. Michael Quinn about a new book, “Chosen Path: A Memoir.”This explosive new memoir written by D. Michael Quinn, and found and published posthumously, contains so much insider information about the inner workings of the LDS church and never before shared details about notable figures in Mormonism. Quinn experienced it all.Quinn also shares his poignant struggle as a gay Mormon man trying to reconcile his faith's treatment of the LGBT community.His son Moshe offers an intimate portrait of his father and Barbara shares a professional view. This episode is a must watch.Don't forget to like and subscribe to Mormonish Podcast!***How to DONATE to Mormonish Podcast:If you would like to financially support our podcast, you can DONATE to support Mormonish Podcast here:https://www.mormonishpodcast.org/supportAlso at:PayPal: https://paypal.me/BiblioTechMediaVenmo: @BiblioTechMediaWe appreciate our Mormonish viewers and listeners so much!Contact Mormonish Podcast: mormonishpodcast@gmail.com

Book Club is back with Rebecca Bibliotheca and John Dehlin! Joining with them as they discuss the Mountain Meadows Massacre is author and historian Barbara Brown Jones. Barbara cowrote "Vengeance is Mine" with Richard Turley. Barbara puts down rumors about the Mountain Meadows Massacre and why it started and discusses who was to blame for it and who was not.  Episode Show Notes Youtube link   Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon PayPal Venmo Our Platforms: Youtube Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com  PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117  Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

In 2022, women of color received just .8% of venture capital funding. Today's guest is one of those .8%, raising $3M in 2022 in venture capital from strong investors including Serena William's VC fund, Serena Ventures.Barbara Jones-Brown has never been a stranger to defying the odds. When Barbara graduated from the University of Texas in 1998 she was one of only four black computer science graduates. She would go on to be the Lead Technical Developer at 360 Commerce which was later acquired by Oracle and served as the launch of Oracle's retail division.Bit by the entrepreneurial bug, post acquisition Barbara would launch a consulting business that would continue to grow and allow her to create job opportunities for marginalized groups. But Barbara had always known one day she would build her own product company. Then a seemingly serendipitous hackathon would birth the idea that would one day become Freeing Returns. Then in 2020, a global pandemic went from nearly destroying her successful consulting business to being the forced change that would accelerate the launch of Freeing Returns.This is a powerful conversation in which we discuss Barbara's journey, her strength in building high performing teams, and learning the importance of when to listen to advice and when to ignore. I can't wait for you to meet this amazing woman. Enjoy!Show Notes:Connect or Follow Barbara on LinkedInLearn more about Freeing Returns

“Spiritual Paths of the September Six Thirty Uears Later,” Feat. Elbert Peck, Sara M. Patterson, Magaret Toscano, Lynne Whitesides, Maxine Hanks, Barbara Jones Brown, Paul Toscana & Janice Allred. Recorded live July 29, 2023 The post The September Six, Thirty Years On: Sunstone Session “Spiritual Paths of the September Six” appeared first on Dialogue Journal.

Who bears the most blame for Mountain Meadows Massacre? Barbara Jones Brown & Richard Turley will discuss the roles of Brigham Young, John D Lee, Isaac Haight, William Dame, and others in the massacre. We'll also discuss why it is important to discuss the massacre, and what other projects Barbara & Rick are working on. Check out our conversation.... Sign up to free newsletter at Gospeltangents.com/newsletter to get this free, secret episode. https://youtu.be/cIxbvLL0Euo transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved

Blood Atonement has long been attributed as a reason a hundred Arkansas immigrants were killed in the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Did it play a role in the atrocity? Richard Turley & Barbara Jones Brown discuss the controversial doctrine, and whether the massacre was revenge for Parley Pratt's murder. We'll also discuss whether Brigham Young was involved in the cover-up of the massacre. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/s9HXbhR5CYU transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved

"Vengeance is Mine" is the sequel to "Massacre at Mountain Meadows." Rick Turley & Barbara Jones Brown discuss what Juanita Brooks and Will Bagley got wrong in their previous Mountain Meadows book. Barbara & Rick have uncovered new records about John D Lee's 2nd trial that changes the traditional narrative. They have uncovered new trial transcripts that break some of the things that previous authors Will Bagley & Juanita Brooks got wrong. What are these new findings? Check out our conversation.... https://youtu.be/PEvWyNqRBIY transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved

The Mountain Meadows Massacre is the worst event in Mormon History. John D Lee was the only man convicted. For a century, the LDS Church has tried to cover up the terrible event. There is a game-changing book that sheds new light onthe prosecution of John D Lee, the only man convicted of the massacre. The authors admit the massacre was covered up from the beginning, but was Brigham Young involved? "Vengeance is Mine" is the newest book on the event. Check out our conversation with Barbara Jones Brown & Richard Turley. https://youtu.be/bQiU3IUhnLQ transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved

Join me as we sit down with the inspiring Barbara Jones-Brown, CEO and founder of Freeing Returns, a Salesforce partner with a mission to save retailers a whopping half a trillion dollars in loss prevention. Listen to her story, from serving in the USA Military to receiving funding from the Serena Williams Venture Fund and her twenty-year journey in the retail tech sector. Discover how Freeing Returns uses AI on Salesforce's order management system to combat returns fraud, a growing problem costing retailers dearly. In our engaging conversation, we explore Barbara's journey to becoming a Salesforce partner and how this relationship has empowered her team. Listen to how Freeing Returns' cloud-based application is putting money back into the hands of retailers and providing total retail loss solutions, profit optimization, and data analytics.  Listen as Barbara shares customer success stories and the biggest lessons she's learned as a solo founder. From the retail industry to smart cities and energy sectors, learn how Freeing Returns' technology is making a difference. Show Highlights: Freeing Returns uses Salesforce's order management system and AI technology to identify fraudulent returns and personalize the return process. Barbara's experience as a solo founder, the importance of trusting her team, and the lessons she has learned along the way. Reducing returns fraud in e-commerce, partnering with Salesforce and Serena Williams, addressing returns fraud with Salesforce OMS, and fraud prevention with personalized returns. Barbara's insights on the importance of trusting the team around you and leveraging their feedback to grow as a leader and better serve clients. Resources: LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/company/72139657/admin/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/freeingreturns/status/1461424978436378624?lang=en Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freeing.returns/ Follow and Review: We'd love for you to follow us if you haven't yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We'd love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. *** Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com. Let them know I sent you.  

148 years ago this week, John D. Lee stood in his trial for his role in the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Dr Janiece Johnson has studied the Mountain Meadows Massacre for over 20 years. Her latest book, Convicting the Mormons is based both on her Ph.D. Dissertation as well as the time she spent working with Richard Turley & Barbara Jones Brown on "Vengeance is Mine." Janiece discusses how Americans viewed the massacre, and how the massacre has been used to cast aspersions on Mormons over a century. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/wwQz-eNuQBQ transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission

In 1857, Utah settlers from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints were at war with the federal government. During the heightened hostilities, Iron County militiamen deliberately massacred a wagon train full of more than 100 men, women, and children traveling west from Arkansas. The Mountain Meadows Massacre was one of the worst atrocities of the American West and of the church's history. But how did it happen? And what do new details just published about the aftermath of the tragic event tell us about the risk that comes from current day hostilities and polarization in the country? In this week's episode of Utah Weekly Forum, FM100.3 Host Rebecca talks with historian Richard E Turley Jr., co-author, with Barbara Jones Brown, of the new book "Vengeance is Mine; The Mountain Meadows Massacre and its Aftermath."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In September of 1857, one of the greatest atrocities in the history of Mormonism was carried out. Now known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre, a group of Latter-day Saints led a siege in Southern Utah against a wagon train of emigrants on their way from Arkansas to California. After the siege had dragged on for several days, and under the guise of a truce, leaders of the Mormon party lured the emigrants out of their protective circle of wagons and marched them a short distance across the valley before turning on them in surprise and slaughtering at least 120 unarmed men, women, and children.The details of this evil are difficult to talk about at all — much less dive deep on — but at the same time, historians Richard E. Turley and Barbara Jones Brown believe that it's important that we confront history, even its most difficult episodes, with as much honesty and depth as we can.Rick has served in many roles at the Church over many years, including as managing director of the Family and Church History Department, and managing director of the Public Affairs Department. Barbara is the director of Signature Books Publishing and former executive director of the Mormon History Association.Together they are the authors of a new book called Vengeance is Mine: The Mountain Meadows Massacre and its Aftermath, which is the second in a two-volume series of exhaustively researched masterworks on the subject. The first book, Massacre at Mountain Meadows, on which Rick was one of the authors and Barbara was a content editor, was published in 2008, and this second volume is the culmination of over 18 years of research, writing, and editing by countless contributors. Though brilliant historians have written about the Massacre before, these books include new research from documents and records that have never before been available.As we spoke with Barbara and Rick, we were struck by not just their comprehensive knowledge of these tragic events, but by the depth of their empathy for the victims, and insights about how knowledge of difficult history can be part of a larger story of healing and reconciliation. They and many others have been important in spearheading efforts in recent years to allow for that healing, including working with the Church itself and organizations of victims' descendants.In fact, Henry B. Eyring credited the work done on the first book in 2007 in an official statement given at the site of the massacre on its sesquicentennial. As part of that statement, he said, “What was done here long ago by members of our Church represents a terrible and inexcusable departure from Christian teaching and conduct. We cannot change what happened, but we can remember and honor those who were killed here…We express profound regret for the massacre carried out in this valley 150 years ago… and for the undue and untold suffering experienced by the victims then and by their relatives to the present time."What we hope for this episode is what we think Barbara and Rick hope for their book: that it can promote the same work of at-one-ment that is at the core of the Gospel by fully acknowledging the sins of the past, actively listening and working toward healing in the present, and looking forward to a future of deep relationship and connection.

“We believe it is our obligation to understand and learn from the past,” Elder Henry B. Eyring, then of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, remarked on Sept. 11, 2007, at an event commemorating the 150th anniversary of the Mountain Meadows Massacre. The massacre is perhaps the grimmest episode in the history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — when brewing tensions between early Church pioneers and immigrants traveling through the Utah Territory erupted, resulting in the death of some 100 people. In 2008, the book “Massacre at Mountain Meadows” explored the complicated history of the 1857 event. The sequel, “Vengeance Is Mine: The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath,” is now available. Authors Richard E. Turley Jr. and Barbara Jones Brown join this episode of the Church News podcast to talk about this period in Church history.  The Church News Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners to make a journey of connection with members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints across the globe. Host Sarah Jane Weaver, reporter and editor for The Church News for a quarter-century, shares a unique view of the stories, events, and most important people who form this international faith. With each episode, listeners are asked to embark on a journey to learn from one another and ponder, “What do I know now?” because of the experience. Produced by KellieAnn Halvorsen.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

My friends Richard Turley and Barbara Jones Brown, noted Latter-day Saint historians, join us to talk about their powerful new book about the Mountain Meadows Massacre of an Arkansas wagon train in 1857. Through their extensive research, they answer questions about why it happened, who was responsible, Bigham Young's understanding/involvement, descendants of victims stories/interactions, and reconciliation. I was deeply moved—sometimes to tears—learning about this tragic part of Latter-day Saint history. Understanding and owning our history is key to reconciliation and ensuring the same cycle of fear and extremism isn't repeated. I am so grateful for Rick and Barbara and their work to write this history, connect with the descendants of the victims, and help heal hearts. This book is both a thoughtful academic book and a powerful story of pain, heartache, tragedy, and reconciliation. I encourage everyone to read this book and listen to this podcast. Thank you Rick and Barbara for being on the podcast and your much-needed work in our community. Podcast links: Vengeance is Mine: The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath: www.amazon.com/dp/0195397851 Massacre at Mountain Meadows (earlier book): www.amazon.com/dp/0199747563 E-mail: mmmreconciliation@gmail.com

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The infamous and inexcusable Mountain Meadows Massacre lives on as the bloodiest stain on the history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The 2008 book “Massacre at Mountain Meadows” offered modern readers the most complete look to date at the atrocity, when, on Sept. 11, 1857, Mormon settlers deceived a wagon train of emigrants on their way to California through southern Utah and then slaughtered about a hundred men, women and children. Now comes the eagerly anticipated follow-up volume, titled “Vengeance Is Mine: The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath.” On this week's show, co-authors Richard E. Turley and Barbara Jones Brown explain how church leaders in southern Utah tried to cover up the crime, how investigations were thwarted, and how justice was delayed and denied. (In then end, only one perpetrator, John D. Lee, was executed.) They also explore a key Watergate-like question: What did church prophet-president Brigham Young know and when did he know it?

April 9, 2023 Greetings brothers and sisters! Welcome to the weekly MormonNewsRoundup where Devery Anderson and Dives ruminate on the great and spacious beehive! EP 54 - Devery Anderson of SB co-hosts, one year anniversary of the launch of MNRU, latest Signature Book happenings, belated reactions from General Conference Connect with Dives! www.MormonNewsRoundup.org kolob@mormonnewsroundup.org Voicemail Twitter YouTube Official Sponsor Music MormonMovieReviews Support this Podcast Patreon Welcome to the MormonNewsRoundup! Who are you and what is your position at Signature Books? You run the official SB podcast: what's the purpose of the podcast? Who is your intended audience? why should people listen to it? MNRU Joke of the week A Mormon walks into a bar. Just kidding. Segment 1 State of the MNRU Slideshow Segment 2 SB Newsletter  If people want to submit a manuscript for consideration to SB, what is the process? Elegy of Anathema  News Articles Lori Daybell trial begins The first day of the Lori Vallow Daybell trial began with jury selection on Monday in Boise. The judge, prosecution and defense team questioned groups of potential jurors throughout the day and were left with 17 jurors who had been approved. Vallow Daybell is charged with seven felonies. She and her husband Chad Daybell are accused of murdering her two children, J.J. Vallow and Tylee Ryan. Vallow Daybell is also accused of conspiring to murder Daybell's late wife, Tammy Daybell. She's pleaded not guilty. Biggest Mormon trial since Jodi Arias? On my other channel Mormon Movie Reviews, we reviewed every episode of the Netflix series, Sins of our Mother, so you should really check that out New poll suggests Mormon outreach to other faiths is unreciprocated an outreach to evangelicals is spectacularly unsuccessful General Conference President Nelson announces 15 new temples at general conference RMN now responsible for 42% of all LDS temples None in Utah President Nelson calls for peace  Ahmad Corbitt stirs controversy, some suggesting that he is asking members to place the church before their own children Church before children? Reaction Patreon Conclusion When can I get Barbara Jones Brown on the MNRU podcast? With Al stepping back, call for occasional co hosts Why do you sponsor this podcast? What is your vision for the MormonNewsRoundup? What would you like to see differently on this podcast?  Jonathan Streeter of thoughts and things and stuff coming on next week Shoutout to Weird Alma for this episode's music. Thanks so much for ruminating with us on the great and spacious beehive! And remember, remember: No unhallowed hand can stop this podcast from progressing!  #lds, #mormon, #exmormon, #postmormon,#religion, #news, #ldschurch, #comeuntochrist, #churchofjesuschrist, #churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, #byu, #byui, #josephsmith, #comefollowme, #polygamy, #bookofmormon, #becauseofhim, #hearhim --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mormonnewsroundup/support

TalkLP Host sits down with tech maven Barbara Jones-Brown, Founder and CEO of Freeing Returns and Johnny Custer, Chief Operating Officer.  Freeing Returns is a newbie to the Loss Prevention space -- in name only.  Amber gets to the bottom of exactly what Freeing Returns does and what they've been doing for the last 10 years (answer: saving retailers millions).  Barbara and Johnny also explain their unique approach to solving Total Retail Loss for retailers and how it can truly be simplified for any type of workforce. Solving Total Retail Loss being as easy as Green Means Go?  You bet.  Listen today to find out what you may be missing.  For more information and to check out Freeing Returns new website - click here.  You can find Freeing Returns LIVE in person at the upcoming RILA conference (booth 609) but click here to schedule a meeting -- it's going to be packed!

Date: July 7, 2022 (Season 5, Episode 7: 75 minutes long). For the entire show notes and additional resources for this episode, click here. Are you interested in other episodes of Speak Your Piece? Click here. The episode was co-produced by Brad Westwood and Chelsey Zamir, with sound engineering and post-production editing by Jason T. Powers, from the Utah State Library Recording Studio.This episode of Speak Your Piece is an interview with Barbara Jones Brown, director of Signature Books, and Richard E. Turley, Jr., former assistant Church Historian of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, on their book Vengeance is Mine: The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath (Oxford University Press), to be released May 30, 2023, with SYP host Brad Westwood. This book is a sequel to the 2008 Massacre at Mountain Meadows (Walker, Leonard and Turley). In Vengeance is Mine, the authors exhaustively cover the motives that led to the massacre at Mountain Meadows of the 120-plus victims, followed by the complex aftermath that includes cover-up attempts with the entirety of the blame placed on the neighboring Paiutes, as well as governmental and political intrigue. Also detailed are the delayed, if not coordinated, efforts to obstruct justice in indicting the nine key individuals involved. For the speakers' bios, please click here for the full show notes plus additional resources and readings. Do you have a question? Write askahistorian@utah.gov.

How important is the “historical” in historical fiction? Three historians, Barbara Jones Brown, Bryan Buchanan, and Cheryl Bruno, talk with Stephen Carter about the historical inaccuracies in Under the Banner of Heaven and whether they were worth it.

How important is the "historical" in historical fiction? Three historians, Barbara Jones Brown, Bryan Buchanan, and Cheryl Bruno, talk with Stephen Carter about the historical inaccuracies in Under the Banner of Heaven and whether they were worth it.

Almost a year ago, noted Latter-day Saint historian and prodigious researcher D. Michael Quinn died at age 77. Quinn, who retained his belief in the founding events of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints until his death, was pressured to resign from Brigham Young University and subsequently excommunicated from the faith in 1993 as part of the famed “September Six” for his writings about women and the priesthood, as well as about post-Manifesto polygamy. For the past 11 months, friends and fellow academics have discussed the scholar's legacy. On March 25, many of them will gather at the University of Utah for a one-day conference to examine and celebrate Quinn's life. In addition, Signature Books recently published a new biography of Quinn by historian and archivist Gary Topping. Titled simply “D. Michael Quinn: Mormon Historian,” the book helps flesh out the multiple aspects of Quinn's identity as queer, Chicano and fiercely independent. Meanwhile, Barbara Jones Brown, Signature's new director, is researching Quinn's unpublished memoirs, discovered by his children after his death. On this week's show, Topping and Brown examine Quinn's life and legacy, his battles with the faith's hierarchy and with his own identity, as well as his unwavering commitment to an honest telling of Mormon history and how he was ahead of his time.

The Mormon History Association's just-completed annual conference offered the usual smorgasbord of delectable scholarly presentations relating to Mormonism. The 2021 theme for the hybrid in-person and online meeting in Park City was “Restoration, Reunion and Resilience.” There were sessions on polygamy and early Latter-day Saint experiences in Nauvoo, Ill., and Kirtland, Ohio, along with discussions of race, LGBTQ issues and the Mark Hofmann bombings. The historians also recognized that they were gathering in the ancestral lands of several northern bands of the Ute Indian Tribe. In addition, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced plans to rehabilitate the Hill Cumorah, the Manchester, N.Y., spot where founder Joseph Smith said he unearthed gold plates that contained the faith's signature scripture, the Book of Mormon. On this week's show Barbara Jones Brown, the association's executive director, and Jenny Lund, this year's president and director of the church's historic sites, share highlights and insights from the conference and plans for the future.

The Church History Library is one of the most state-of-the-art libraries in the world.  Historian Richard Turley shepherded the construction of the new building, where they moved the treasures of the Church.  Barbara Jones Brown interviewed Rick last summer. Richard:  When I got to the Church History Department in 1986, it was located in the […] The post Church History Library (Part 5 of 5) appeared first on Gospel Tangents.

Over the past 30+ years, Richard Turley has worked hard to promote women in the Mormon History field.  Barbara Jones Brown sat down with Rick last summer and they share their collaborations together and how Rick has helped promote women. Barbara: I owe so much to you, because you opened doors for me in terms […] The post Opening Doors for LDS Female Historians (Part 3 of 5) appeared first on Gospel Tangents.

Richard Turley’s book “Massacre at Mountain Meadows” was published in 2011. The book ends at the massacre in 1857. He and Barbara Jones Brown are writing the latest installment of the tragedy and this time they will focus on the trials of John D. Lee and aftermath. Barbara and Rick sat down as part of […] The post Turley on Mountain Meadows Massacre (Part 2 of 5) appeared first on Gospel Tangents.

Richard Turley retired in 2020 after working in various roles for the LDS Church.  This will be a special treat, because I’m turning the microphone over to Barbara Jones Brown, executive director of the Mormon History Association.  Barbara asked me to film the interview for the virtual meetings at the Mormon History Association meetings, and […] The post Hired After Hofmann (Part 1 of 5) appeared first on Gospel Tangents.

When nine U.S. citizens were killed in a brutal attack in northern Mexico last week, much of the world learned for the first time about that area’s past and prevailing ties to Mormon polygamy. Those ties include a complex cast of characters and creeds — both mainstream Latter-day Saints and breakaway believers. Helping to untangle and understand this web is historian Barbara Jones Brown, executive director of the Mormon History Association who has studied and written about post-1890 Mormon plural marriage.

Richard Turley is not only an amazing historian but is Director of Public Affairs for the LDS Church.  In our next conversation, we'll get acquainted with him and learn about a few of the books he has written, including the recent release of Saints: The Standard of Truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkYkh3SSjHY Turley:  So Saints, the story of The Church of Jesus Christ in the Latter-days, is the first multi-volume history of the church produced officially since B.H. Roberts' comprehensive history, which was compiled from a series of journal articles that he wrote and published as a set in 1930 as part of the church's centennial. Saints is a four-volume work that breaks the history of the church up into four time periods: 1815 to 1846, and then from there until 1893, and then from there until the mid-1950s. Then from that point to the present day. It is a history that is written in narrative style. So, unlike a lot of histories which was just somewhat expository, this one is narrative, which means it's deliberately intended to be engaging to the reader. The content is extraordinarily accurate history that's been source checked repeatedly. You can find the sources in the back of the book. But it's also written in a very engaging style. So, it has already become, by perhaps an order of magnitude, the single most read history in the history of the church. GT : Well, it's sold out too. Do you know that? Turley: We give it away electronically, and we've had a vast number of downloads. We've also had a vast number of chapter views. So, we know that we have over a million people reading it right now. GT : Well, I tried to get it for my mom for Christmas, and it was sold out, and I was like, "Are you kidding me?" Turley: Well, it's remarkable. Volume 1 is remarkable, and the other volumes will appear in succession. I encourage everyone to read it. We also talk about his past and future books on the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Turley: So when my co-authors and I were writing Massacre at Mountain Meadows, we gathered a lot of information. In fact, we ended up with more than 50 linear feet of files that we had collected from 31 states in the United States and the District of Columbia. I include in that the National Archives on Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, DC, the National Archives in Maryland, what we sometimes call Archives Two and the Denver facility for the National Archives. So, we had a lot of information. The information that we gathered included historical documents, legal documents. The legal documents were particularly important, because no one had ever really examined the case from that perspective before and I, having a legal background, was particularly interested in doing that. So, working with the Janiece Johnson and LaJean Purcell Carruth, who is a shorthand transcriber, we put together these two volumes, and then an associated website that has on it thousands of additional pages of information. These volumes gave you the perspective from a legal standpoint of the Mountain Meadows case, including information related to the nine people who were formally indicted for the massacre. Check out our conversation... Richard Turley is not only an amazing historian but is Director of Public Affairs for the LDS Church. Check out our other conversations about the Mountain Meadows Massacre with Rick's co-author, Barbara Jones Brown. 261: Who Bears Responsibility for MMM? (Jones Brown) 260: After the Killing (Jones Brown) 259: Cattle Rustling Turns Deadly (Jones Brown) 258: Tackling Myths of Mountain Meadows (Jones Brown) 257: Revenge for Haun's Mill & Pratt's Murder? (Jones Brown) 256: Utah War & Mountain Meadows Massacre (Jones Brown)

In our final conversation with Barbara Jones Brown, we'll talk about who was most culpable for the massacre.  Was it John D. Lee, Brigham Young, or militia leaders in Iron County? https://youtu.be/D3tCgrl_Jes Barbara:  [Brigham Young] starts to come to believe that John D Lee and Isaac Haight we're involved. Now at this time, he doesn't have civil authority. He just has church authority, right? Because he's not the governor anymore. And so, he excommunicates John D. Lee and Isaac Haight, eventually. GT: Would it be safe to say that those were the two most responsible people for the massacre? Barbara:  I think William Dame is also responsible because he gave the final okay to go ahead and carry it out as Iron County militia commander. Phillip Klingensmith was clearly very much involved and clearly received much of the spoils. We know from a clerk of Phillip Klingensmith that he was pilfering tithing funds and stealing from the people long before the massacre. But is Brigham Young completely blameless? Barbara:  I agree with Juanita Brooks' conclusion that his rhetoric before the massacre was very dangerous. You know, privately he was writing and saying, "I don't want any bloodshed in this conflict." But he was definitely whipping people up into a state of hysteria. ... GT:  Would Brigham Young be an accessory to that with his rhetoric? Barbara: I don't think he's an accessory to the crime. I look at President Donald Trump today and some of his rhetoric that he uses. Did he tell people to do what happened at Charlottesville? No. But did his rhetoric make people think it was okay to do what they did? Did some people think it was okay to do what they did at Charlottesville? Probably. So, would you call Trump an accessory to any crime? Would you call Trump an accessory to the crime that occurred at Charlottesville when you had one of these people drive a car into protesters? No. I wouldn't call Trump an accessory to that crime. No. But did his rhetoric encourage some people to think that was okay? Possibly. Check out our conversation…. Are there others responsible for the deaths at Mountain Meadows? Check out our other episodes with Barbara! 260: After the Killing (Jones Brown) 259: Cattle Rustling Turns Deadly (Jones Brown) 258: Tackling Myths of Mountain Meadows (Jones Brown) 257: Revenge for Haun's Mill & Pratt's Murder? (Jones Brown) 256: Utah War & Mountain Meadows Massacre (Jones Brown)

The day after approximately 100 immigrants from Arkansas were killed, Mormon leaders in Iron County got together to discuss how to explain the deaths.  Barbara Jones Brown tells how leaders dealt with Brigham Young's message to leave the immigrants alone, and how they decided to blame the Indians for the atrocity. https://youtu.be/k6qs7z-vZxg Barbara:  On the day after the massacre Haight and Dame arrive at the Mountain Meadows to see what's happened, what's been done. Lee and Klingensmith are already there because they were major participants in the killings, in the atrocity. They come and then Lee talks about watching Haight and Dame argue over who's to blame for this as they see the horrible, butchering, just the horrible, butchered bodies lying all across the meadows, including all of the women and children. Dame says, "We have to report this." And Haight says, "How? As an Indian massacre?" And Dame says, " I'm not sure I would report it just as that, because Dame knows he's ordered out the Iron County militiamen to do this. Isaac [Haight] says, "You have to report it as an Indian massacre or you'll implicate yourself." Dame says, "Isaac, I didn't think there were so many of them. You told me that most of them were already dead, that there were just a few more witnesses that had to be killed." Haight yells at him and says, "If you blame this whole thing on me, I will follow you to hell to make sure you pay for it," basically. So there's just this horrible argument going on the day after. So, Lee gets back to Fort Harmony and starts bragging to his congregation about what he's done. He's proud of it. A letter from Brigham Young arrives on September 13th, two days later. It arrives in Cedar City telling Isaac Haight, "The Indians will do as they please, but you must not meddle with the immigrants. If those who are there will go, let them go in peace." Isaac Haight receives that letter and says, "Too late, too late." So he forwards that message to Harmony and also to Washington. The same thing happened in Washington. The militiamen returned to Washington and they're bragging about what they've done. They're proud of it, until that message arrives, that Brigham Young had said, "No. Let them go in peace." So Haight calls Lee to him in Cedar City and says, "We're in a muddle." He says, "You need to go report this to Brigham Young and take as much of the blame for it as you can." So Lee says, "Why don't you just tell him you're the [leader.]" He [Haight] says, "Well, you could tell him better than I." So he sends Lee north to report the massacre to Brigham Young. And so the blame game begins.  Check out our conversation…. What Happened after the Killing at Mountain Meadows? Don't miss our other conversations with Barbara! 259: Cattle Rustling Turns Deadly (Jones Brown) 258: Tackling Myths of Mountain Meadows (Jones Brown) 257: Revenge for Haun's Mill & Pratt's Murder? (Jones Brown) 256: Utah War & Mountain Meadows Massacre (Jones Brown)

What precipitated the Mountain Meadows Massacre?  In my conversation with Barbara Jones Brown, I learned something very interesting. It turns out that Mormons were stealing cattle from California-bound immigrants!  Was this part of Brigham Young's strategy to send a message to Washington that immigration was unsafe?  It seems that Brigham Young was encouraging Mormons (and Indians) to steal immigrant cattle!  Barbara tells about another raid on immigrant cattle at the same time the Mountain Meadows Massacre happened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbmO9UOf_PI Barbara:  We can't say for sure who did it. We don't know. That's all we have is this account from those immigrants on the northern route. But it takes place on September 8, 1857. They said, "It was clear they did not intend to kill anyone. It was clear they just intended to run off our cattle." That's exactly what happens with this other train. They have their cattle run off. They're strung out on the road and it's in the dark at night-time and they're in a ravine, a large wash. The Moapa Indians, led by five or six Mormon interpreters run off their cattle, and then the train goes on and makes it to California, to San Bernardino. That happens right after this other one. No one is killed. GT: Mormons have a history of cattle rustling it sounds like. Barbara: Well again, this was Brigham Young's strategy. His war strategy was to try and convince the federal government that if the government removed him as Indian Superintendent and Governor of Utah and ran the Mormons out, this is what would happen, that immigration would be no longer safe. GT: This is kind of his strategy, and so he's making it not safe, essentially. Barbara: Yeah. He's encouraging this cattle raiding. In all of the sources in which the cattle raiding is encouraged, you don't see any evidence of any killing to be encouraged at all, just to have the cattle raided. GT: So why do you think the killing happened in Mountain Meadows? Check out our conversation! Brigham Young encouraged Mormons (and Indians) to steal cattle from immigrants crossing through Utah. Don't miss our other episodes with Barbara! 258: Tackling Myths of Mountain Meadows (Jones Brown) 257: Revenge for Haun's Mill & Pratt's Murder? (Jones Brown) 256: Utah War & Mountain Meadows Massacre (Jones Brown)

In this part two of a special two-part review of the October 2018 General Conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we explore two newsworthy topics: President Oaks' talks touching on political issues around marriage, sexuality, religious freedom, etc. President Nelson’s talk on the naming guidelines of the Church   (Note: Part 1 covered reducing the Sunday meeting schedule to 2 hours with emphasis on “home-centered, Church-supported” learning, as well as the first General Women’s Session included in General Conference weekend) We are joined by guest scholars Barbara Jones Brown and Ben Spackman. We can be found on the web at: MormonismMagnified.com transitioning to LatterdayLandscape.com

There are still a lot of myths surrounding the Massacre at Mountain Meadows. How many were killed?  Historian Barbara Jones Brown says it could be a few dozen lower than original estimates. https://youtu.be/qCENNRBC2uE Barbara: You know what's really interesting about that number is that number comes from Jacob Hamblin who buries the bodies later....He tells federal army officials, federal officials, that it was 120, and then they go with that number. What's interesting is the earliest sources, the earliest body counts, put the number at 95, 96, which surprised me when started getting into those earliest primary sources because I said, "No, it's supposed to be 120." So then I just thought, "Well, where does this number come from?" I looked at all of the sources and they are what I just described to you. So the earliest body counts say about 95 or 96. The number of people who've been identified in the train is about the same. It's about that. GT: So, it might not be as bad as we thought. Barbara: It is as bad as we thought. Even if one person, a massacre [is bad.] GT: That's true. Barbara: Yeah. I mean 95, 120--either way. It still is as bad as we thought. GT: It's terrible. Were children under age 8 spared due to Mormon theology?  Barbara Jones Brown will give us some of the latest information surrounding the massacre, and it likely is different than you've heard. GT: The other question I wanted to ask, so you said that the oldest child that lived was six? I know that there's some Mormon theology. Why six years old? Barbara: So the non-Mormon attorneys that investigated and talk about it later. It says, "Because they were too young to give evidence in court." GT: Oh really? Oh, I always thought it was because children under eight are not capable of sin. Barbara: That theory came much later. GT: Oh, okay. Barbara: It's a modern theory. It doesn't hold up because babies were killed. Some babies were killed in the massacre and seven year-olds were killed. Again, the oldest survivor was six. So, what all of the perpetrators said was they were too young to tell tales. Again, there's a federal district judge named John Cradlebaugh, and he says they were spared because they were too young to give evidence in court. GT: Okay. So it was a legal issue. It wasn't a theological issue. Barbara: That's what the historical sources say. Yeah. I can't find a single historical source that says, "Oh, we're not going to kill them because they're not eight yet." There's not a single historical source that says that. Find out what other myths Barbara can dispel!  Check out our conversation…. Public Domain photo of painting from 1800s of Mountain Meadows. Here are our other conversations with Barbara: 257: Revenge for Haun's Mill & Pratt's Murder? (Jones Brown) 256: Utah War & Mountain Meadows Massacre (Jones Brown)

20 years before the Mountain Meadows Massacre, 17 Mormons were killed in Haun's Mill, Missouri.  And just four months earlier, Parley P. Pratt, a beloved Mormon apostle was killed May 13, 1857 in Arkansas.  Just a few months after Pratt's death, around 100 immigrants from Arkansas were killed.  Is it true that Mormons sought revenge for the Haun's Mill and Pratt's murder?  Barbara Jones Brown will answer that question. https://youtu.be/rv0GJLgAU5I Barbara: So I looked at that theory and all I can find is proximate cause, meaning, so okay, this happened in Arkansas, therefore these people were from Arkansas, therefore that must be the reason. But when I looked at it, I don't think that was the motive. I think these other things that I've been talking about were the motive. Here are my reasons. Quite a lot of the perpetrators eventually come out and say why this happened as well as local people. They give a whole slew of motives and reasons for why this happened. Not one of them ever said that Parley P. Pratt's murder was a motive. GT: Hmm. That's among the principal people that were involved. Barbara: Yeah. Anyone. Anyone. You can't find a single Mormon that ever said that. GT: So, do you think that's overplayed then? Barbara: I do. Were you surprised to hear Brown downplay Pratt and Haun's Mill in the Mountain Meadows Massacre? Check out our conversation…. Barbara Jones Brown disputes the idea that Mountain Meadows was revenge for Haun's Mill or Parley Pratt's murder. Don't miss our other episodes about the massacre. 256: Utah War & Mountain Meadows Massacre (Jones-Brown) 194: What is the Dead Lee Scroll? (Mayfield) 193: John D. Lee's Role in Mountain Meadows Massacre (Mayfield) 074: CSI: Mountain Meadows – Using DNA to Solve 2 Mysteries (Perego)    

If you didn't grow up in Utah, you've probably never heard of the Utah War.  Federal troops came to Utah in 1857 creating great anxiety among the Mormons.  This war footing led to the Mountain Meadows Massacre, the lowest point in Mormon history.  Barbara Jones-Brown tells about these events that led to the greatest atrocity in American history up to that point in 1857. https://youtu.be/-yC2SZ1umL8 Barbara: A memorial from Utah's legislature [was sent to Washington] saying, "Look, if you keep sending us federal officials that we don't like, that we don't agree with, we're going to send them away. Please choose appointees that are from among us and represent our values." Basically one legislator said it was practically a declaration of independence. So there's these kinds of stories, these kind of rumors, some based in fact, some exaggerated that reach Washington. So the new president concludes that he needs to send a whole new set of territorial appointees to Utah, including one to replace Brigham Young as governor and that he's going to send federal troops with them to ensure that they are placed successfully and with no resistance from local Utahans. So Brigham Young and church leaders interpret this as a threat and they vowed that the army, the troops will never enter into their settlements. I'm really glossing over things quickly here, but you have what came to be called the Utah War erupt where the troops and the federal appointees, as they are nearing settlements of what was then Utah Territory. Young and other church leaders send out Mormon militia men to hamper their way. So they're running off their cattle, they're burning the grass in front of them. They are burning their supply wagons, doing everything they can to try and get the troops to be stopped on the plains that year. So that's the environment and you've got this war hysteria going, on if you will, in Utah Territory. These heightened tensions contributed to Mormons in Utah committing the worst war atrocity in U.S. history up to that time in 1857.  Approximately 100 settlers from Arkansas were killed.  Check out our conversation…. President James Buchanan sent federal troops to Utah to quell the "Mormon Rebellion." The Utah War indirectly led to the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Check out our other conversations about the Mountain Meadows Massacre. 194: What is the Dead Lee Scroll? (Mayfield) 193: John D. Lee's Role in Mountain Meadows Massacre (Mayfield) 074: CSI: Mountain Meadows – Using DNA to Solve 2 Mysteries (Perego)  

In this part one of a special two-part review of the October 2018 General Conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we explore two newsworthy topics: Reducing the Sunday meeting schedule to 2 hours, with emphasis on “home-centered, Church-supported” learning. The first General Women’s Session included in General Conference weekend, replacing the Saturday Priesthood Session. (Note: Part 2 will cover President Nelson’s talk on the naming guidelines of the Church, and Elder Oaks’ talks touching on political issues around marriage, sexuality, religious freedom, etc.) We are joined by guest scholars Barbara Jones Brown and Ben Spackman. We are in the process of changing the name of our podcast and website, but for now we can be found at: MormonismMagnified.com MormonismMagnified@gmail.com

The LDS Church has just released via its website, LDS.org, several new essays under the heading "Plural Marriage in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." The cluster includes a framing article (named above) and links to three more detailed pieces: "Plural Marriage in Kirtland and Nauvoo" (new article), "Plural Marriage and Families in Early Utah" (which has been available on the site since mid-December 2013), and "The Manifesto and the End of Plural Marriage" (also new). The articles have been widely hailed as major steps forward in helping the church confront its history with this most difficult practice, as well as the doctrines that led to it and have preserved it in many ways even down to today. As can be expected, especially in documents that emerged from committee and involved those with ecclesiastical as well as historical concerns, the articles fall short in some areas. The panelists in this episode, Barbara Jones Brown, Todd M. Compton, and Brian C. Hales, join with Mormon Matters host Dan Wotherspoon in celebrating these new releases, noting always their strengths and the ways they will undoubtedly assist the church and its many members for whom its polygamist past (and present) is so painful, but also sharing their thoughts on how they might have been improved. Perhaps sometime soon they will!

Join Lindsay as she talks with historian Barbara Jones Brown about polygamy in Mexico around the turn of the century.   Links mentioned in this podcast: Join the Mormon History Association! Article in Deseret News, “Remembering a Grand Soul, Lorna Call Alder” Guest post on Keepapitchinin about Lorna Women of Conviction lecture series Mormon Women’s […]