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What is codependency, where does it come from, and how does it show up in both casual and long term relationships? How can people work on their codependency? What about dating? What are some of the top mistakes people often make when dating while really wanting a relationship? What if I'm casually dating while looking for my longterm partner? Are there top do's and don'ts...like should I not have sex on the first date? And what do I do if I meet someone I want to dive deeper with? How and when should I share this with them, and how can I manage my fear or feelings of rejection? About our guests: Sherry Gaba, LCSW, is a licensed psychotherapist, life coach, author of Love Smacked: How to Stop the Cycle of Relationship Addiction and Codependency to Find Everlasting Love. She helps people cope with codependency, love addiction, narcissistic abuse, and mental health issues. As a leading expert on codependency and toxic relationships, Sherry's TV appearances include: Vh1's Celebrity Rehab, CNN, Inside Edition, the Robert Irvine Show and Access Live, E! News, among others. She has been featured in Cosmopolitan, Women's World, the LA Times, Thrive Global, the New York Post, Zoosk, Psychology Today, Marriage.com and other leading publications. She has also been a guest on many SiriusXM radio shows. Sherry is the founder of Wake-Up Recovery for Codependency and Toxic Relationships, an online group coaching program for codependents, love addicts and victims of narcissistic abuse. Carla Romo is an author of Contagious Love, speaker and a certified life coach specializing in dating and relationships. At age 24, she hit her rock bottom with yet another toxic codependent relationship. But, this time, she got up and learned how to break free from codependency. Inspired by her self-growth journey, she took lemons and made lemonade. Today she helps people build a confident relationship within so they can thrive in all aspects of their life. Carla leads nationwide workshops and talks to people from varying backgrounds. Her work ranges from small group settings to hundreds of attendees either in person or virtual. She has been featured on or partnered with Simon Business School, Milwaukee Bucks, BRAVO, Bumble, Lifetime, Bustle, The Knot, as well as high rated iTunes Podcasts. Carla attended the Institute of Professional Excellence in Coaching (iPEC) becoming a Certified Professional Coach and an Energy Leadership Master Practitioner. To learn more visit https://thelovefix.com Pre-order our book now! Go to shamelesssex.com and get free access to our exclusive online workshop How to Pamper Your Partner for every book preorder!  Other links: Start meditating now with 40% off a Calm Premium subscription at calm.com/shameless Get up to 35% off some of our (and Oprah's!) favorite buttery soft sheets, loungewear and more with code SHAMELESS at cozyearth.com Get 10% off + free shipping with code SHAMELESS10 on Uberlube AKA our favorite lubricant at uberlube.com Get 10% off while mastering the art of pleasure at  OMGyes.com/shameless Get 15% off all of your sex toys with code SHAMELESS15 at purepleasureshop.com

What is the story you're telling yourself that isn't serving you? That's the question Kimberly challenges us this week as we talk about love addictions with Sherry Gaba.Today's Guest: Sherry GabaSherry Gaba, LCSW, is a licensed psychotherapist and life coach who helps people cope with codependency, love addiction, toxic relationships, and mental health issues. Sherry is a single mother and once her daughter was old enough, Sherry returned to school to receive her Master of Social Work from the University of Southern California. As a leading expert on addiction and recovery, Sherry's TV appearances include: VH1's Celebrity Rehab, CNN, Inside Edition, the Robert Irvine Show and Access Live, E! News, among others. She has been featured in Cosmopolitan, Women's World, the LA Times, Thrive Global, the New York Post, Marriage.com, and Psychology Today. She has also guested many times on SiriusXM radio shows and now hosts her own podcast, The Love Fix.Sherry is the author of Love Smacked, in which Sherry addresses relationship addiction and codependency, and is a contributing writer to the book Chicken Soup for the Soul: Tough Times Tough People. Sherry maintains a private practice and is the founder of Wake-Up Recovery, an online group coaching program that applies the principles of positive psychology, law of attraction, and mindfulness for codependents, love addicts, and toxic relationships.  For more information, go to www.SherryGaba.com  Books :Love Smacked: How to Stop the Cycle of Relationship Addiction and Codependency to Find Everlasting Love https://www.amazon.com/dp/1628657405?tag=psychologytod-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1Infinite Recovery: 6 Steps of Mindfulness, Positive Thinking, and the Law of Attraction to Break Free from Addiction https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T4GLDFX?tag=psychologytod-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1Your Host: Kimberly Beam Holmes, Expert in Self-Improvement and RelationshipsKimberly Beam Holmes has applied her master's degree in psychology for over ten years, acting as the CEO of Marriage Helper & CEO and Creator of PIES University, being a wife and mother herself, and researching how attraction affects relationships. Her videos, podcasts, and following reach over 200,000 people a month who are making changes and becoming the best they can be.Website: www.kimberlybeamholmes.comTake the Attraction AssessmentThanks for listening!Connect on Instagram: @kimberlybeamholmesBe sure to SUBSCRIBE to the podcast and leave a review!

It is fitting that our 4th of July episode features the topic of freedom and independence!  In this week's episode, Host, Susan Guthrie speaks with Sherry Gaba, psychotherapist and author of "Love Smacked," about the toxic cycle of love addiction and how you can break free! Relationship addicts are so in love with love with love and romance and being coupled up that they continually move from one relationship to another, always on the rebound, never giving themselves time to heal and learn how to be independent.  As a leading expert on addiction and recovery, Sherry's TV appearances include: Vh1's Celebrity Rehab, CNN, Inside Edition, Access Live and E! News and she specializes in helping people to break free from the addiction cycle and codependency so that they can find everlasting love.   Some questions Sherry addresses in the episode: 1.  What is love addiction and what are the signs and symptoms? 2.  How do you know if you are in a toxic relationship? 3.  What is love bombing? 4.  Why do we become addicted to toxic relationships? 5.  What is withdrawal from a toxic or love addicted relationship? 6.  How do we overcome our addiction to a toxic relationship? If any of this rings a bell, then this episode is for you!  Isn't it time to declare your Independence?! About this week's special guest: Sherry Gaba, LCSW, is a licensed psychotherapist and life coach who helps people cope with codependency, love addiction, toxic relationships, and mental health issues. Sherry is a single mother and once her daughter was old enough, Sherry returned to school to receive her Master of Social Work from the University of Southern California.   As a leading expert on addiction and recovery, Sherry's TV appearances include: Vh1's Celebrity Rehab, CNN, Inside Edition, the Robert Irvine Show and Access Live, E! News, among others. She has been featured in Cosmopolitan, Women's World, the LA Times, Thrive Global, the New York Post, Marriage.com Psychology Today, Zoosk and other leading publications. She has also been a guest on many SiriusXM radio shows and now hosts her own podcast,  The Love Fix. Sherry is the author of Love Smacked, in which Sherry addresses relationship addiction and codependency, and is a contributing writer to the book Chicken Soup for the Soul: Tough Times Tough People.   Sherry maintains a private practice and founder of Wake-Up Recovery an online group coaching program that applies the principals of positive psychology, law of attraction, and mindfulness for codependents, love addicts, and toxic relationships.   Find out more about Sherry and her services:  www.sherrygaba.com Join Sherry's Wake Up Recovery Community: https://wakeuprecovery.com/become-a-member-co1/ Follow Sherry on Instagram at @codependencycurious Get Sherry's Book "Love Smacked: How to Stop the Cycle of Relationship Addiction and Codependency to Find Everlasting Love" ****************************************************************************************************** THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSOR: Thriving in divorce and beyond means not having to worry about the safety of your children when it comes to co-parenting. 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Ep #181 - The Love Smacked Addict – An Interview with Trauma Coach and Author, Sherry Gaba. Anyway you slice it and dice it, no matter if you call it Love Addiction, Relationship Addiction, Obsessive Love or Romance Addiction, it all comes down to unhealthy practices in the name of love. My guest for this episode of Empowering Chats, is Author and Trauma Coach, Sherry Gaba. Her book, “Love Smacked: How to Stop the Cycle of Relationship Addiction and Co-Dependency to Find Everlasting Love,” focuses on insecure attachments and what obsessive love looks like. Often times people who feel alone or who were abandoned as children will seek validation from others and become addicted to being in relationship. Sherry experienced this first hand in her life and knows the importance of having self-love and a strong sense of self before entering into a love relationship. Sherry explains that many times (although not always), the obsession and addiction to another is an attempt by that person to recover the love and attention that may have been missing in their life as a child. That person grows up with a warped sense of self and often times doesn't have self-love or a strong sense of who they are. Without the nurturing, you can develop low self-esteem. Her book focuses on how to break that cycle of dependency and addiction so that you can live fabulously on your own or with a life partner. She offers tools in her book that give her readers ways to recognize good partners and steer clear of bad ones, and how to define healthy boundaries. Ultimately giving to yourself and finding ways to feel comfortable in your own skin is the key to healing. To learn more about Sherry, visit her website at: SherryGaba.com Sherry is offering an online group coaching program she calls, "Wake-Up Recovery," to help her clients overcome their love addiction issues by applying principles of positive psychology and mindfulness.  She is offering my listeners a one-month trial to her coaching program for only $1.00.  To take advantage of this offer please follow this link: wakeuprecovery.com/become-a-member-co1/ Please visit my website to learn more about how I show up in the world: SusanBurrell.com

Love Smacked: How to Stop the Cycle of Relationship Addiction and Codependency to Find Everlasting Love with Sherry Gaba Sherry Gaba is a licensed psychotherapist and life coach who helps people cope with codependency, love addiction, toxic relationships, and mental health issues. Sherry is a single mother and once her daughter was old enough, Sherry returned to school to receive her Master of Social Work from the University of Southern California. As a leading expert on addiction and recovery, Sherry's TV appearances include: VH1's Celebrity Rehab, CNN, Inside Edition, the Robert Irvine Show and Access Live, E! News, among others. She has been featured in Cosmopolitan, Women's World, the LA Times, Thrive Global, the New York Post, Marriage.com, and Psychology Today. Sherry is the author of Love Smacked,in which Sherry addresses relationship addiction and codependency, and is a contributing writer to the book Chicken Soup for the Soul: Tough Times Tough People. Sherry maintains a private practice and founder of Wake-Up Recovery an online group coaching program that applies the principals of positive psychology, law of attraction, and mindfulness for codependents, love addicts, and toxic relationships. For more information visit: sherrygaba.com *************************************************** For more information about BITEradio products and services visit: http://www.biteradio.me/index.html To view the photography of Robert at: rpsharpe.picfair.com

Sharing current events from a psychic perspective, we often feature special guests stopping by to have a cup of Joe, have a good conversation, and talk about their unique gifts with us. From influential and inspiring writers and prominent members of the psychic community, we cultivate a lively discussion from all walks of life. Aeson Knight is a master psychic of more than 22 years, a certified clairvoyant, and a certified life coach who advises a diverse clientele from average housewives to government officials, all around the world. Joseph “Techy Joe” Arrington is a Technologist with a degree in Information Systems and Operations Management with a love of writing and experience in Web Development and Journalism, and a passion for photography and graphical design, he acts as PCSP Network Manager and Business Manager for Aeson Knight Reading. Our guest: Sherry Gaba: Sherry Gaba, LCSW, is a licensed psychotherapist and life coach who helps people cope with codependency, love addiction, toxic relationships, and mental health issues. Sherry is a single mother and once her daughter was old enough, Sherry returned to school to receive her Master of Social Work from the University of Southern California. As a leading expert on addiction and recovery, Sherry's TV appearances include VH1's Celebrity Rehab, CNN, Inside Edition, the Robert Irvine Show and Access Live, E! News, among others. She has been featured in Cosmopolitan, Women's World, the LA Times, Thrive Global, the New York Post, Marriage.com, Psychology Today, Zoosk, and other leading publications. She has also been a guest on many SiriusXM radio shows and now hosts her own podcast, The Love Fix. Sherry is the author of Love Smacked, in which Sherry addresses relationship addiction and codependency, and is a contributing writer to the book Chicken Soup for the Soul: Tough Times Tough People. Sherry maintains a private practice and founder of Wake-Up Recovery an online group coaching program that applies the principles of positive psychology, the law of attraction, and mindfulness for codependents, love addicts, and toxic relationships. For more information, go to www.SherryGaba.com · Narcissistic Partners and Obsessive Love eBook & Quiz · https://sherrygaba.com/npquiz Membership Coaching Program · Wake-Up Recovery is an online group coaching program that applies the principles of positive psychology, the law of attraction, and mindfulness for codependents, love addicts, and toxic relationships. Includes $1 one-month trial. · https://wakeuprecovery.com/ig1 To Keep Up with Our Hosts and For More Information Visit: Aeson knight http://aesonknight.com/ Learn More about pcspnetwork.com http://pcspnetwork.com/ Learn about techie Joe: http://mysticpcwv.com/

Romance and love addiction are real. You may know someone who is constantly in search of the next “love high” or jumps from one relationship to another. Or they may be consistently drawn to toxic partners who are abusive and manipulative. Sherry Gaba brings deep insight into these patterns, and shares wisdom to help break free of these addictive cycles. Sherry Gaba, LCSW, is a licensed psychotherapist and life coach who helps people cope with codependency, love addiction, toxic relationships, and mental health issues. Sherry is a single mother and once her daughter was old enough, Sherry returned to school to receive her Master of Social Work from the University of Southern California. As a leading expert on addiction and recovery, Sherry's TV appearances include: Vh1's Celebrity Rehab, CNN, Inside Edition, the Robert Irvine Show and Access Live, E! News, among others. She has been featured in Cosmopolitan, Women's World, the LA Times, Thrive Global, the New York Post, Marriage.com Psychology Today, Zoosk and other leading publications. She has also been a guest on many SiriusXM radio shows and now hosts her own podcast, The Love Fix. Sherry is the author of Love Smacked, in which she addresses relationship addiction and codependency, and is a contributing writer to the book Chicken Soup for the Soul: Tough Times Tough People. Sherry maintains a private practice and founder of Wake-Up Recovery an online group coaching program that applies the principals of positive psychology, law of attraction, and mindfulness for codependents, love addicts, and toxic relationships. Find out more at https://sherrygaba.com.

Romance and love addiction are real. You may know someone who is constantly in search of the next “love high” or jumps from one relationship to another. Or they may be consistently drawn to toxic partners who are abusive and manipulative. Sherry Gaba brings deep insight into these patterns, and shares wisdom to help break free of these addictive cycles. Sherry Gaba, LCSW, is a licensed psychotherapist and life coach who helps people cope with codependency, love addiction, toxic relationships, and mental health issues. Sherry is a single mother and once her daughter was old enough, Sherry returned to school to receive her Master of Social Work from the University of Southern California. As a leading expert on addiction and recovery, Sherry's TV appearances include: Vh1's Celebrity Rehab, CNN, Inside Edition, the Robert Irvine Show and Access Live, E! News, among others. She has been featured in Cosmopolitan, Women's World, the LA Times, Thrive Global, the New York Post, Marriage.com Psychology Today, Zoosk and other leading publications. She has also been a guest on many SiriusXM radio shows and now hosts her own podcast, The Love Fix. Sherry is the author of Love Smacked, in which she addresses relationship addiction and codependency, and is a contributing writer to the book Chicken Soup for the Soul: Tough Times Tough People. Sherry maintains a private practice and founder of Wake-Up Recovery an online group coaching program that applies the principals of positive psychology, law of attraction, and mindfulness for codependents, love addicts, and toxic relationships. Find out more at https://sherrygaba.com. 

Sherry and Carla kick off this week talking about why you may want to go on that second date, even if the first one didn't blow you out of the water. Then, they welcome Licensed Clinical Psychologist Dr. Quincee Gideon to the show. As an advocate and doctor for trauma recovery and co-dependency, Dr. Quincee is adamant about helping people live their full and most meaningful life despite a history of trauma or chronic people-pleasing. She discusses the importance of building trust in yourself and being in your body, her virtual education platform called Traumastery, the Big and Little “T's” of trauma and why both matter, and how trauma comes in all shapes and sizes.    What You'll Hear In This Episode: A Love Fix question on what to do when you notice avoidant tendencies popping up immediately after the first date.  Dr. Quincee's story of trauma work started with trauma. She suffered the traumatic death of a roommate and loved one, and then spent time traveling and working in a war zone in Africa.  What is “Big T” and “Little T” trauma? How are they similar, and how do they differently manifest in our body and emotions?  Dr. Quincee explains complex PTSD, and discusses how whichever modalities work best for you to help you heal from the trauma, is one to keep doing.  Find out more about Dr. Quincee's Course in Co-Dependency, along with ways to work with Sherry and Carla on overcoming codependency, dating, a break-up, healing from toxic relationships, and gaining confidence. Why do trauma survivors tend to be empathic and have a strong intuition?  How do those who have suffered trauma begin to trust their own choices and get realigned with their needs and feelings? Why slowing down and giving yourself the gift of time is so powerful.  What stored trauma in the body can look like.   Tweetables:  “Feelings aren't facts.” - Sherry  “My story of trauma starts with trauma.” - Dr. Quincee “We've got to move from from fear to faith - Sherry  “I think that's why codependent love addicts are so obsessive, because they don't allow themselves the time and go right to obsession.” - Sherry “Time and slowing down seem to be so helpful. If you can allow yourself, it's like the biggest gift you can give yourself is time. - Dr. Quincee   “Trauma happens in different sizes and shapes.” - Dr. Quincee  “We've got to get reacquainted with our bodies instead of being enemies with ou bodies.” - Dr. Quincee  “I find that relationships are so powerful in helping us understand our dynamics.” - Dr. Quincee  “I would say for trauma survivors, particularly those with complex PTSD, getting close to themselves is the most terrifying thing that could be offered along the way.”  - Dr. Quincee   Connect with Us!   The Love Fix | @thelovefixpodcast Become a Member - Codependency Special (2020) - Wake Up Recovery  - $1 trial membership Join the Narcissistic Abuse and Codependent Relationship Transformation Challenge FB group  The Love Fix Relationship Quiz     Sign up for a Connection call with Sherry https://sherrygaba.com/coaching/life-coaching/    Holiday Special: Sign up for Sherry's Inner Circle for 1/2 off and get 6 months FREE!      Find Out More:  TikTok - @pattiegonia video    Sherry Website | Instagram | Facebook | Love Smacked | Wake Up Recovery for Codependents and Toxic Relationships  | Sherry Gaba's Coaching Packages    Carla Website | Instagram | Facebook | Contagious Love | Online Dating Bootcamp    Dr. Quincee  Website | Instagram | Facebook | Woven Trauma Therapy    Website | Books|Love and Relationships Podcast | Instagram  Today's episode is sponsored by Carla's book Contagious Love: Break Free from Codependency for Damn Good and Sherry's book Love Smacked: How To Stop the Cycle of Relationship Addiction and Codependency To Find Everlasting Love.  Thanks to Contagious Love and Love Smacked for sponsoring this episode.    

Sherry and Carla get real about the ups and downs of the holidays, and then welcome OBGYN and Media Personality, Dr. Drai. As a highly respected board-certified OBGYN, he is nationally recognized as the go-to expert on women's health and transgender health issues. Dr. Drai talks about how he got into the field of women's health, his pride in working with the trans community, and the best protection he recommends against STIs. He also talks with Sheri and Carla about the importance of pleasuring yourself, a few of his favorite toys, and what makes his Feel the Moment line so special and unique. Dr. Drai's personality and energy are one of a kind, so get ready to both laugh and learn!   What You'll Hear In This Episode: Is Sherry really a Christmas scrooge?! Why the holidays can feel extra stressful and difficult if you are also dealing with codependency issues. A Love Fix Question on how to stay sane, especially over the holidays, when you have an addict in your family. The mission behind Dr. Drai's Sexual Wellness Company, Feel the Moment, is to make everyone feel accepted, educated, and confident about their pleasure and sex life. What are STIs, and how are they different from STDs? What are the patterns that Dr. Drai seems to notice from his client's relationships that we can learn from? What was the moment Dr. Drai knew he had to switch from a path of Cardiology to OBGYN? How did Dr. Drai use his background in chemistry and working with all types of women, men, and non-binary clients to formulate products like lube and condoms? Interested in seeing America's favorite OBGYN? Ways to connect with Dr. Drai, along with ways to work with Sherry and Carla on overcoming codependency, dating, a break-up, healing from toxic relationships, and gaining confidence. What should we know about fertility in our 30's and 40's, and what does Dr. Drai think about freezing your eggs? What are some ways we can open up communication with our partners about what they like and what you like? Why it's important to pleasure yourself, no matter what age you are. Dr. Drai gives advice for women post-menopause to feel their best.   Tweetables: “This is what I'm supposed to do. I'm supposed to bring life into the world.” - Dr. Drai “It's important to invest in yourself because we have a part in all of it. It's not just blaming your partner. It's “how are you buying into the story?” because maybe you don't feel confident and you really are afraid about being alone and not finding anybody.” - Carla “I definitely believe in getting rid of those negative energies, which means bad relationships, toxic relationships, with whoever it is. Get rid of them so you can have a prosperous life.” - Dr. Drai “I don't believe in being a traditional doctor. I definitely believe in doing what you're supposed to do from a higher power.” - Dr. Drai “It's all about communication, and you have to know who you are, right? To be comfortable with who you are, and be able to articulate what you want for yourself and your relationship.” - Dr. Drai “I think as you get older, it can be a deeper, richer relationship because you're just so much more comfortable.”  - Sherry “The more you know your body, the more you're able to tell your partner what makes you feel good.” “An orgasm a day keeps the doctor away!” - Dr. Drai   Connect with Us!   The Love Fix | @thelovefixpodcast Become a Member - Codependency Special (2020) - Wake Up Recovery  - $1 trial membership Join the Narcissistic Abuse and Codependent Relationship Transformation Challenge FB group  The Love Fix Relationship Quiz     Sign up for a Connection call with Sherry https://sherrygaba.com/coaching/life-coaching/    Find Out More:    Sherry Website | Instagram | Facebook | Love Smacked | Wake Up Recovery for Codependents and Toxic Relationships  | Sherry Gaba's Coaching Packages    Carla Website | Instagram | Facebook | Contagious Love | Online Dating Bootcamp    Dr. Drai  Website | Instagram | Special Offer - Enter “LoveFix” for 20% off checkout! | Facebook   Website | Books|Love and Relationships Podcast | Instagram  Today's episode is sponsored by Carla's book Contagious Love: Break Free from Codependency for Damn Good and Sherry's book Love Smacked: How To Stop the Cycle of Relationship Addiction and Codependency To Find Everlasting Love.  Thanks to Contagious Love and Love Smacked for sponsoring this episode.

This week, Sherry and Carla welcome Aleah Ava, Co-Founder of The Royal Path and host of the Addicted to Love Podcast. Through using many tools including trauma-informed emotional healing and her unique method called “emotional recycling”, Aleah supports couples and individuals who face love, sex, and relationship challenges. The three talk about the benefits of Primal Scream Therapy, tantric sex, the difference and similarities of sex addiction vs. love addiction, and the signs of sex addiction.     What You'll Hear In This Episode:   A Love Fix Question from a listener tired of being single and feeling the challenge of loving life relationship free.  Aleah shares how she got into using tantra as a tool for growth, and how it can help us bring every issue and feeling to the bedroom.  How is sex addiction different from love addiction? How is it similar?  Interested in attending a retreat with Aleah? Ways to connect on your Royal Path to her, along with ways to work with Sherry and Carla on overcoming codependency, dating, a break-up, healing from toxic relationships, and gaining confidence. What is Primal Scream Therapy, and how can we use it to get stuck energy and unresolved pain and trauma out of our body?  What is a retreat with Aleah like, and how do the particpapants support each other's wounds and vulnerability?  What are some signs that you or someone you know may be a sex addict?  What are some other types of somantic work which provides resources and tools for trauma therapy?  What are sex addicts typically running from at their core?  What are three ways we can get into our body and feel more grounded in and out of the bedroom?    Tweetables: “Be present. Attune to the moment.” - Sherry “Sex can be either really, really traumatizing and just reinforce that wound of rejection or not feeling loved. Or, sex can be really nourishing.” - Aleah “As a woman, I really have to learn to listen to the tempo of my body.” - Aleah “Woman and pleasure is very different than men and pleasure.” - Aleah  “Tantra in itself is a way of living. It's really about surrending yourself to what is, saying yes to the moment, and accepting it.” - Aleah  “It (tantra) is about giving up the idea of a goal, and having an understanding of where you want to go in sex together.” - Aleah  “It's about union. The feminine and the masculinine together in the bedroom and forgetting that idea of separation.” - Aleah  “I always come back to the heart space. So if I can go in and really listen to it and understand that my body is my compass, it guides me.” - Aleah  “It's all about loving yourself whether you're in a relationship, single, or going through a breakup. That is where the happiness comes from.” - Carla  “Sex addiction or love addiction, it's really an inability to truly connect.” - Sherry    Connect with Us!   The Love Fix | @thelovefixpodcast Become a Member - Codependency Special (2020) - Wake Up Recovery  - $1 trial membership  Join the Narcissistic Abuse and Codependent Relationship Transformation Challenge FB group  The Love Fix Relationship Quiz     Sign up for a Connection call with Sherry https://sherrygaba.com/coaching/life-coaching/    Find Out More:  Never Have I Ever  Your Honor  Dr. Arthur Janov  John Bradshaw    Sherry Website | Instagram | Facebook | Love Smacked | Wake Up Recovery for Codependents and Toxic Relationships     Carla Website | Instagram | Facebook | Contagious Love | Online Dating Bootcamp    Aleah Ava: Addicted to Love Podcast | Website | Facebook | LinkedIn    Website | Books|Love and Relationships Podcast | Instagram  Today's episode is sponsored by Carla's book Contagious Love: Break Free from Codependency for Damn Good and Sherry's book Love Smacked: How To Stop the Cycle of Relationship Addiction and Codependency To Find Everlasting Love.  Thanks to Contagious Love and Love Smacked for sponsoring this episode.

Carla gives a shout-out to her brother-in-law's impressive baking skills, and Sherry reminisces about the time she baked once. Then, the ladies welcome New York City based Teacher, Certified Relationship Coach, and Writer Jillian Turecki to the show. Over the past 20 years, Jillian has dedicated her life to researching and teaching others how to revolutionize their relationships both with themselves and with their partners. She talks about her holistic approach to the body mind connection, how to get out of just “me” thinking and focus on the needs of your partner, and why falling in love with being single is incredibly important.    What You'll Hear In This Episode:    A Love Fix Question about how to handle shame in your relationship.  How does Jillian help her clients develop a deep connection with themselves first, so they can build a relationship with others?  It's okay to desire love and intimacy and love being single at the same time.  The more we work on ourselves, the more we can uncover our own patterns and take accountability for our actions and their results.  So often, we are always thinking about “me, me, ME!” in a relationship. How can we get more in tune with the needs of our partner?  Want to go deeper in Jillian's coaching? More info on how to work with her in her Conscious Woman Membership, along with ways to work with Sherry and Carla on overcoming codependency, dating, a break-up, healing from toxic relationships, and gaining confidence. How can you start to adopt the mentality that you and your partner are both 100% responsible, not 50/50? First, by realizing that the blame game never works.  Jillians talks about how she recognized and healed her own co-dependency in relationships.    Tweetables: “If your vulnerability is being used against you, that is a major red flag right there.” - Carla  “You want a relationship to make you happier. And to enrich your life and to add value to your life not be your life, ultimately.” - Jillian “The only way that you can choose better is if you know yourself more.”  “We get so scared when we're in a relationship, and oftentimes we forget that we are not in survival mode that there is another person in the relationship.” - Jillian  “If you want to have better and healthier relationships that have more peace and harmony, the first thing you have to do is be accountable for your behavior.” - Jillian  “I wish we could be in love with being single as much as people are so in love with having a partner.” - Sherry  The only way that we're going to be free, is if we stop blaming others.” - Jillian “People have so much armor that they forget the love.” - Jillian   Connect with Us!   The Love Fix | @thelovefixpodcast Become a Member - Codependency Special (2020) - Wake Up Recovery  - $1 trial membership  Join the Narcissistic Abuse and Codependent Relationship Transformation Challenge FB group  The Love Fix Relationship Quiz     Sign up for a Connection call with Sherry https://sherrygaba.com/coaching/life-coaching/    Find Out More:  Michele Obama opens up about ‘tough times' that led her and Barack to marriage therapy  Tony Robbins    Sherry Website | Instagram | Facebook | Love Smacked | Wake Up Recovery for Codependents and Toxic Relationships     Carla Website | Instagram | Facebook | Contagious Love | Online Dating Bootcamp    Jillian Turecky  Website | Instagram | Coaching |     Website | Books|Love and Relationships Podcast | Instagram  Today's episode is sponsored by Carla's book Contagious Love: Break Free from Codependency for Damn Good and Sherry's book Love Smacked: How To Stop the Cycle of Relationship Addiction and Codependency To Find Everlasting Love.  Thanks to Contagious Love and Love Smacked for sponsoring this episode.

Sherry and Carla take a Love Fix question on if you should call out your partner when you see narcissistic tendencies and then welcome NLP Master Practitioner and Narcissistic Abuse Recovery Coach Tiara Thomas. Through her own process of healing and self-discovery, Tiara broke free of the codependent/narcissist cycle and founded the Self Love Method. She talks about how our core beliefs reflect the love we think we deserve, why self-love is so important when it comes to breaking patterns in relationships, and some subtle and overt signs you may be dating a narcissist.   What You'll Hear In This Episode:   Trader Joe's people may seem weird on the East Coast, but it's the standard on the West! A Love Fix Question — what should you do when your partner is displaying narcissistic tendencies?  Tiara herself dated a narcissist and went through a lot of pain, so she knows firsthand the feeling of being caught in a cycle of feeling hopeless. What are NLP and PsychK, and how can they help us get past the level of the conscious mind and into the subconscious mind? A large part of the process of getting over a narcissist is realizing that it's not your fault. Should we have empathy for narcissists? Does it come from trauma? What are some red flags that pop up when we start dating a narcissist or while we are in the relationship? What types of people do narcissists prey on? Interested in learning more about Tiara's Self Love Method? More info on how to link up with her and ways to work with Sherry and Carla on overcoming. What if a narcissist says they will get help? Narcissistic people are predatory because they are looking for people who give. Why are codependents a magnet for narcissists? Signs that a narcissist is projecting onto you.   Tweetables: “A big part of my process was understanding that it wasn't my fault that someone was treating me that way, and having compassion for myself and knowledge and understanding.” - Tiara “I'm learning to not take things personally or internalize what other people are doing.” - Tiara “When you have a high degree of self-worth, you just don't tolerate when someone treats you a certain way.” - Tiara “Have compassion if you ended up in a relationship with a narcissist. Part of that whole dynamic is gaslighting and manipulation.” - Sherry “Narcissism is created by trauma. And so it's okay to have compassion for someone who is operating solely from a place of trauma.” - Tiara “ That's the whole narcissist, codependent dance. They're magnets for each other, because of the codependent giver and people pleaser, and the narcissist who will take.” - Sherry “When you see a red flag, you don't minimize it, excuse it, you know, or dismiss it, you push into it, and you put in a boundary or you, you know, called somebody out on that behavior.” - Tiara  “They have their own abandonment issues. So they find other people that have abandonment issues, but they just express it differently than the codependent.” - Sherry    Connect with Us!   The Love Fix | @thelovefixpodcast Become a Member - Codependency Special (2020) - Wake Up Recovery  - $1 trial membership  Join the Narcissistic Abuse and Codependent Relationship Transformation Challenge FB group  The Love Fix Relationship Quiz    

Do you trust your gut? Even more, do you know the difference between your intuition and what may be a trauma response or someone else's version of the truth? This week, Sherry and Carla welcome Yasmin Ibrahim, Life and Business Intuitive and founder of the Soul School. Yasmin shares a few key tools for self-healing and ways we can access our intuition. She talks with Sherry and Carla about why we tend to shut off our inner voice, and how to learn to say “no” with confidence, strength, and kindness.    What You'll Hear In This Episode:   A Love Fix Question: Are you in denial and staying with someone because you are afraid to be alone?  What does a “gut feeling” usually feel like, and what happens when we ignore it?  Why do empaths and sensitive people tend to fall for those with narcissistic traits?  How can we start to recognize our gut feelings, and what is being fed to us by society and those around us?  Interested in learning more about Yasmin's Soul School? More info on how to link up with her and ways to work with Sherry and Carla on overcoming codependency, dating, healing from toxic relationships, and gaining confidence. How can a person learn to say no in dating without feeling like they are missing the opportunity of a lifetime?  How to say no but still come across as direct and kind.  How do you know your intuitive nature or if it's a trauma response?  Being present in your body is the only way to know what you really need.  Can you think of a time your intuition was trying to tell you something?     Tweetables:  “The more you concentrate on what you want, the more you are going to get it.” - Yasmin  “The more direct you can be, the more grounded and intuitive you are.”                - Carla  “ The universe wants you to be your best self.” - Yasmin  The whole codependent way of thinking is I'm going to be fixed or fix others. It's more a recovery. - Carla “If you are told growing up what your feelings are supposed to be, you don't know your feelings and then you start second-guessing.” - Sherry “It's not our job to fix someone else.” - Sherry   Connect with Us!   The Love Fix | @thelovefixpodcast Become a Member - Codependency Special (2020) - Wake Up Recovery  - $1 trial membership  Join the Narcissistic Abuse and Codependent Relationship Transformation Challenge FB group  The Love Fix Relationship Quiz     Sign up for a Connection call with Sherry https://sherrygaba.com/coaching/life-coaching/    Find Out More:    Sherry Website | Instagram | Facebook | Love Smacked | Wake Up Recovery for Codependents and Toxic Relationships     Carla Website | Instagram | Facebook | Contagious Love | Online Dating Bootcamp    Yasmin Ibrahim  Website | Instagram | Facebook | Soul School    Website | Books|Love and Relationships Podcast | Instagram  Today's episode is sponsored by Carla's book Contagious Love: Break Free from Codependency for Damn Good and Sherry's book Love Smacked: How To Stop the Cycle of Relationship Addiction and Codependency To Find Everlasting Love.  Thanks to Contagious Love and Love Smacked for sponsoring this episode.

At the top of the show, Sherry and Carla talk about the different forms that meditation can come in, and then welcome Licensed Professional Counselor and Relationship Expert Debra Fileta. Debra is also the host of the Love + Relationships podcast, and author of many popular books including Choosing Marriage, True Love Dates, and Are You Really Okay? She discusses focusing on your own health to make your relationship better, a healthy way to move on from a toxic person, and the power of healing in a group or community.   What You'll Hear In This Episode:   How do Sherry and Carla each meditate, and in what ways can you incorporate mindfulness into your life? A Love Fix question about what to do when your ex moves on and it makes you jealous. More about the Love Fix Program, set to launch soon! Debra shares her tips from working with hundreds of people on taking care of yourself from a holistic standpoint, which will help us attract another healthy person. If you are healthy, can you still attract a toxic person? Interested in connecting with Debra for some True Love dating advice? More info on how to link up with her, along with ways to work with Sherry and Carla on overcoming codependency, dating, healing from toxic relationships, and gaining confidence. When we focus more on our own health, our relationships naturally benefit. Debra's advice for those who tend to overgive in a relationship. Debra describes how the “better than average” effect can lead us to assume we are actually doing better than we really are. How can groups and finding a community help us? Debra's work asks the reader to do an audit of themselves and do regular “check-ups”.   Tweetables: “The process of becoming healthy is also learning to identify toxicity.” - Debra “I'm thinking, what if we were to change the narrative and say, counseling is like going to the gym to work out your muscles? You would never shame someone for going to the gym, you would High Five them!” - Debra “When you begin to get healthy, it changes the dynamic of the relationship, even if that means I begin to set more boundaries.” - Debra “The difference between a healthy person and an unhealthy person is that a healthy person will recognize a crappy person much faster than an unhealthy person.” - Debra   Connect with Us!   The Love Fix | @thelovefixpodcast Become a Member - Codependency Special (2020) - Wake Up Recovery  - $1 trial membership The Love Fix Relationship Quiz     Sign up for a Connection call with Sherry https://sherrygaba.com/coaching/life-coaching/    Find Out More:    Sherry Website | Instagram | Facebook | Love Smacked | Wake Up Recovery for Codependents and Toxic Relationships     Carla Website | Instagram | Facebook | Contagious Love | Online Dating Bootcamp    Debra Fileta Website | Books|Love and Relationships Podcast | Instagram  Today's episode is sponsored by Carla's book Contagious Love: Break Free from Codependency for Damn Good and Sherry's book Love Smacked: How To Stop the Cycle of Relationship Addiction and Codependency To Find Everlasting Love.  Thanks to Contagious Love and Love Smacked for sponsoring this episode.

Sherry Gaba is a licensed psychotherapist and life coach, who helps people cope with codependency, love addiction, toxic relationships, and mental health issues. Sherry is a single mother and once her daughter was old enough, Sherry returned to school to receive her Master of Social Work from the University of Southern California. As a leading expert on addiction and recovery, Sherry's TV appearances include: VH1's Celebrity Rehab, CNN, Inside Edition, the Robert Irvine Show and Access Live, and E! News, among others. Sherry is the author of Love Smacked, in which Sherry addresses relationship addiction and codependency, and is a contributing writer to the book Chicken Soup for the Soul: Tough Times Tough People. Sherry maintains a private practice and is the founder of Wake-Up Recovery, an online group coaching program that applies the principals of positive psychology, law of attraction, and mindfulness for codependents, love addicts, and toxic relationships.

Sherry Gaba is a Psychotherapist, with over twenty years of experience as a clinician, and a graduate of USC specializing in addictions, relationships, co-dependency, trauma, parenting, divorce and single parenting.  She was the go-to expert for Dr. Drew Pinsky's Celebrity Rehab show on VH1 and later on the spin-off, VH1's Sober House as well as Celebrity Rehab's Sex Addiction. She teaches clients how to stop the cycle of toxic & codependent relationships and gain unconditional radical self-love.    In this episode we discuss:    -What is codependency?   -What is love addiction?   -What is the difference between being in love and having an unhealthy obsession with your partner?   -What does trauma have to do with all of this?   -What are some treatment options?   -What is withdrawal?   -10 writing prompts to practice self-love:    Become a Member - Codependency Special (2020) - Wake Up Recovery    $1 to join   Intro music:    Milckmusic.com @milckmusic on TikTok, ig, fb, Twitter  Somebodysbeloved.com   Production: Reel In Motion    https://instagram.com/untamedandunashamedpodcast?utm_medium=copy_link See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You have your first few dates. You think - Yes! I found a man that makes me feel wonderful. Then, you notice some anxiousness when you're with him. It's not your normal fear. Something is not right. Feeling uncomfortable is just one symptom that you're dating a narcissist. This week on Midlife Love Loud Loud I interviewed Sherry Gaba on love addiction and narcissistic patterns.  She helps people cope with codependency, addictive relationship patterns and yes, how to spot a narcissist. It's not your fault and you can break the pattern.   Sherry Gaba, LCSW, is a licensed psychotherapist and life coach who helps people cope with codependency, love addiction, trauma, and toxic relationships. Sherry is a single mother and once her daughter was old enough, Sherry returned to school to receive her Master of Social Work from the University of Southern California. As a leading expert on addiction and recovery, Sherry's TV appearances include: Vh1's Celebrity Rehab, CNN, Inside Edition, the Robert Irvine Show and Access Live, E! News, among others. She has been featured in Cosmopolitan, Women's World, the LA Times, Thrive Global, the New York Post, Marriage.com Zoosk and other leading publications. She has also been a guest on many SiriusXM radio shows. Sherry is the author of Love Smacked, in which Sherry addresses relationship addiction and codependency, and is a contributing writer to the book Chicken Soup for the Soul: Tough Times Tough People. Sherry maintains a teletherapy private practice and founder of Wake-Up Recovery an online group coaching program that applies the principles of positive psychology, law of attraction, and mindfulness for codependents, love addicts, and toxic relationships. Take the FREE Narcissistic Partners and Love Addiction Quiz Here. Join the Wake Up Recovery For Codependents and Toxic Relationships Group HERE Want to stop going on sucky dates? Grab your MIDLIFE LOVE GUIDE TO SUCCESSFUL DATING and learn how you can call in Mr. Right, right now!  If you'd like some one-to-one coaching with Junie, grab your complimentary 30-minute Love Breakthrough Session today so she can support you on your love path. And don't forget to subscribe to Midlife Love Out Loud so that you don't miss a single episode. While you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to www.CoachJunieMoon.com and follow us on Facebook and Twitter.

Sherry Gaba, LCSW, is a licensed psychotherapist and life coach who helps people cope with codependency, addictions, trauma, and mental health issues. Sherry is a single mother and once her daughter was old enough, Sherry returned to school to receive her Master of Social Work from the University of Southern California. As a leading expert on addiction and recovery, Sherry’s TV appearances include: Vh1’s Celebrity Rehab, CNN, Inside Edition, the Robert Irvine Show and Access Live, E! News, among others. She has been featured in Cosmopolitan, Women’s World, the LA Times, Thrive Global, the New York Post, Marriage.com and other leading publications. She has also been a guest on many SiriusXM radio shows. Sherry is the author of the best-selling book, Infinite Recovery, which addresses recovery from addiction and alcoholism through the lens of the Law of Attraction. Sherry is also the author of Love Smacked, in which Sherry addresses relationship addiction and codependency, and is a contributing writer to the book Chicken Soup for the Soul: Tough Times Tough People. Sherry maintains a private practice in Westlake Village, CA, is Editor of Recovery Today Magazine, and founder of Wake-Up Recovery an online group coaching program that applies the principals of positive psychology, law of attraction, and mindfulness for codependents and addicts in recovery. In this episode, we explore the topic of codependency, guilt and grieving that may come with one's recovery process, what it's like to have an anxious attachment, defining love addiction and trauma bonding, and more. FOLLOW SHERRY:INSTA: @codependencycuriousEBOOK: www.wakeuprecovery.com/codependency-quiz/BOOKS: Love Smacked STAY CONNECTED:INSTA: @trustandthriveFACEBOOK: bit.ly/FBtaramontWEBSITE: www.tara-mont.comEMAIL: tara@tara-mont.comCo-Dependents Anonymous: https://coda.org/

On this week's show, Nina introduces Sherry Gaba, a Psychotherapist, Codependency Recovery Coach, Author, and Co-Host of The Love Fix Podcast. Sherry was the go-to expert for Dr. Drew Pinsky's Celebrity Rehab show on VH1 and later on the spin-off, VH1's Sober House as well as Celebrity Rehab's Sex Addiction.They discuss topics such as codependency, love addiction, alcoholism, and cross-addiction as well as the trauma that often goes hand in hand. Sherry shares her own personal story of trauma as an infant to becoming a codependent love addict and how she found healing.Sherry Gaba's Website: https://sherrygaba.com/Purchase 'Love Smacked': https://www.amazon.com/Love-Smacked-Relationship-Codependency-Everlasting/dp/1628657405Membership Program: https://wakeuprecovery.com/become-a-member-co1/Free Ebook and Quiz - The Truth About Codependency: https://wakeuprecovery.com/codependency-quiz/The Love Fix: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-love-fix/id1551411428Want to stay connected? Find us here...HOST: Nina Saurer, CCHT, CTHT, RMT    @ninasaurerhypnocoachGUEST: Sherry Gaba    @codependencycurious

Sherry Gaba, LCSW, is a licensed psychotherapist and life coach who helps people cope with codependency, addictions, trauma, and mental health issues. Sherry is a single mother and once her daughter was old enough, Sherry returned to school to receive her Master of Social Work from the University of Southern California. As a leading expert on addiction and recovery, Sherry's TV appearances include: Vh1's Celebrity Rehab, CNN, Inside Edition, the Robert Irvine Show and Access Live, E! News, among others. She has been featured in Cosmopolitan, Women's World, the LA Times, Thrive Global, the New York Post, Marriage.com and other leading publications. She has also been a guest on many SiriusXM radio shows. Sherry is the author of the best-selling book, Infinite Recovery, which addresses recovery from addiction and alcoholism through the lens of the Law of Attraction. Sherry is also the author of Love Smacked, in which Sherry addresses relationship addiction and codependency, and is a contributing writer to the book Chicken Soup for the Soul: Tough Times Tough People. Sherry maintains a private practice in Westlake Village, CA, is Editor of Recovery Today Magazine, and founder of Wake-Up Recovery an online group coaching program that applies the principals of positive psychology, law of attraction, and mindfulness for codependents and addicts in recovery.

Donna and Beth interview Sherry Gaba, a well-known psycho-therapist and addiction expert who was featured on VH1's Celebrity Rehab show from the 2000's. They touch on many subjects including codependency, addiction, the current pandemic, and personal healing. Find out more about our guest here: Sherry Gaba, LCSW https://sherrygaba.com/ Author of Love Smacked: How to Stop the Cycle of Relationship Addiction and Codependency to find Everlasting Love https://www.amazon.com/Love-Smacked-Relationship-Codependency-Everlasting/dp/1628657405 and Wake Up Recovery for Codependents https://wakeuprecovery.com/become-a-member-co1/ Also, check out how to get her free ebook: The Truth about Codependency https://wakeuprecovery.com/codependency-quiz/

This week the best recovery podcast co-host in the business, Jason has an outstanding interview with veritable Recovery Powerhouse Sherry Gaba. Sherry Gaba is a licensed clinical social worker, Psychotherapist, Life Coach, and Certified Recovery Coach specializing in individual, couples, family, and group psychotherapy as well as the editor of Recovery Today Magazine. Sherry was the go-to expert for Dr. Drew Pinsky's Celebrity Rehab show on VH1 and later on the spin-off, VH1's Sober House as well as Celebrity Rehab's Sex Addiction. As you'll soon discover, Sherry frames addiction and codependency as two sides from the same coin, indeed codependency has a lot more in common with addiction than we might think. We get to know Sherry, learn a lot from her about her life's work, addiction, and codependency, as well as how we can identify and overcome it so #Listenup Sherry's books FREE E-BOOK! "The truth about codependency" plus quiz https://wakeuprecovery.com/codependency-quiz/ The Law of Sobriety: Attracting positive energy for a powerful recovery- by Sherry Gaba https://www.amazon.com/Law-Sobriety-Attracting-Positive-Powerful/dp/0757315151/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&hvadid=78202831730487&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=sherry+gaba&qid=1604780709&sr=8-3&tag=mh0b-20 Love Smacked:How to stop the cycle of relationship addiction and codependency to find everlasting love.- by Sherry Gaba https://www.amazon.com/Love-Smacked-Relationship-Codependency-Everlasting/dp/1628657405/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&hvadid=78202831730487&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=sherry+gaba&qid=1604780774&sr=8-1&tag=mh0b-20 To join the tribe at Wake Up Recovery for Codependents go to https://wakeuprecovery.com/ Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/). --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/the-way-out-podcast/message