A podcast about overcoming perfectionism so you can do more of what you love. Your hosts are: Janine Adams, a Certified Professional Organizer, who is naturally good at good enough and Shannon Wilkinson, a Life Coach and recovering perfectionist who is learning to be better at good enough. Together…
Janine and Shannon have made the difficult decision to stop recording the podcast. In this episode, we discuss how we came to that decision and how life-changing the podcast has been for us. We are so grateful to our listeners for their attention and support over the five years of this podcast. We hope that you've benefited from listening. Our plan is to keep past episodes of the podcast available indefinitely, so you can listen to any of the other 253(!) episodes whenever you want. If you're so inclined, please leave a comment on the show notes of this episode and let us know how Getting to Good Enough has made a difference in your life! Or feel free to leave us a voicemail at 314-413-GTGE.
Getting a great night's sleep can be elusive, especially as we get older. Shannon and Janine have tried a lot of things to improve the quality of their sleep and we're excited to discuss them in this episode. We provide lots of great links with this one! Discussion topics include: • The good old days when we could get a good night's sleep and not even notice • The app Shannon uses to check her sleep: AutoSleep • The sleep app Janine uses: Sleep Cycle • Shannon's sleep-talking habit (she runs meetings in her sleep!) • The double-edged sword of electronically monitoring your sleep • Adjusting your sleep goals so you can achieve them more often • Shannon's current sleep solution: Drinking four ounces of tart cherry juice • Janine's current sleep solution: Dream Powder • The challenge of varying temperature preferences when you're sharing a bed • Shannon's eucalyptus weighted blanket • Listening to sleep stories to get to sleep • Shannon's sleep mask with embedded bluetooth speakers! • Practicing good sleep hygiene Be sure to visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links to everything we talked about.
Why is it so hard to acknowledge our small victories? In this episode, Janine and Shannon discuss taking the win and how it's good for our productivity (and our health!). Discussion topics include: • How it can be hard to accept that what you've done is valuable and counts even if it's not perfect • The (erroneous) idea that if you feel good about what you've done you might slack off • Would you play a game on your phone if all it did was buzz you when you got something wrong? • How the things that are most addictive are the things that are rewarding you constantly for doing something • If we talk to our friends the way we tend to talk to ourselves, we wouldn't have a lot of friends • Remember: Everything counts (even the easy stuff)! You can still take the win. • A good companion to your to-do list: A "Done" list • Paying attention to the areas where you could be kinder to yourself and feel good about what you've done • How taking the win can help you get more done • Accepting compliments (and taking them in) • The person who gave us the idea for this topic: Shannon's husband, Mike! Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com.
Shannon's back from Italy and we're running some episodes we recorded before she left. This week, Shannon and Janine are talking about the beauty of taking a simple approach to starting something and how that can be challenging for perfectionists. Discussion topics include: • Our virtual retreat to plan our YNAB coaching practices (simpler than trying to figure out how to work together in person) • How starting simple can help you actually get started on a project • Leaving open the possibility for change when you're starting something • Applying this concept to decluttering your closet • How Janine made starting her car-buying process very simple by buying what Shannon had • The beauty of narrowing down your options (and how Shannon accomplished that when she built her most recent house) • How starting simple can make a project feel less overwhelming • Remember: it's not necessary to plan every single step of a project before you start it (something that perfectionists tend to want to do) • How you can get more information with each step of a project (after you get started) • Starting simple by guessing • Figuring out what barriers need to be taken away to allow you to get started • Getting past the "What If?" • Recognizing that what feels simple to one person may not feel simple to someone else Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
It's our 250th episode! This week we're re-running an episode from May 2021, almost exactly two years ago. Next week, keep an eye out for a new episode. Getting comfortable with stopping at good enough (rather than pursuing perfection) can be tough for some people. But it can also be really beneficial. This week Janine and Shannon talk about how and why to feel good about good enough. Discussion topics include: • Embracing the goodness of "good enough" • Rejecting the negative connotations of "good enough" and "taking the easy way out" • The journey of getting comfortable with good enough • How Shannon was able to get more comfortable with good enough a little at a time • Questioning the thoughts you have about perfectionism to make it easier to embrace good enough • Paying attention to progress (and feeling good about progress), rather than trying to do something perfectly • Being okay with what's reasonable as opposed to striving for the unreasonable expectation of perfection • Practicing feeling good about good enough in every day life • Shannon's practice of feeling good about good enough (and working little and often) in her garden-clean-up efforts • Shannon's good-enough lawn mowing practice • The beauty of being able to walk away from something knowing that it's goof enough (if not perfect) • Saving bandwidth by embracing good enough • Being kind to yourself about having a bad memory
This week we're offering a repeat from January 2020. Shannon and Janine are living the "less is more" mantra this year as Shannon makes it a focus of her 2020 goals and Janine focuses on helping her organizing clients let go of excess. In this episode, they discuss how less stuff can add up to more freedom and happiness. Discussion topics include: • One of Shannon's focuses for 2020: Letting go of excess • How Shannon feels encumbered by her stuff • A cogent quote from one of Janine's clients: “I feel handcuffed to my house because of this stuff” • How stuff tends to proliferate when you don't focus on it • The natural tendency to fill up empty space • How having extra space after you finish decluttering is a good thing • Shannon's plan to re-embrace a version of Project 333 for her wardrobe • The joy (and beauty) of a not-full closet • How excess can get in the way of people's freedom and happiness • Janine's truism: The more you keep of a collection, the less special any of it is • Clearing out the excess so you can enjoy and access what you decide to keep • Storing items according to frequency of use • Shannon's shopping-list strategies that stop her from overbuying • Less is more in practice: How Janine and Shannon decluttered their topics list for this podcast • The key to less is more: Paying attention to what feels good about it and knowing why you want it Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
We first published this episode back in February 2019. It feels more relevant than ever in our post-pandemic world. If you feel you should be running at 100 percent capacity, you're not doing yourself any favors. This week Janine and Shannon discuss personal capacity and how making sure you're giving yourself plenty of room capacity-wise can help you be happier and less stressed. Discussion topics include: How personal capacity is like the memory capacity of your computer or phone - when you fill it up, everything slows down The fact that it's unreasonable to expect that you can function at 100 percent capacity • How unnecessary thoughts can take up valuable personal capacity • Letting go of worry so that you can use that energy for more important things • The many things that factor into personal capacity, including having a realistic perception of how long something will take • Managing your own expectations of what you can get done in a given amount of time • Setting yourself up for success with a realistic task list • Ways you can expand your capacity (hint: stop overthinking and close up your loops) • Getting stuff out of your head and onto paper (or pixels) to free up your brain Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
Shannon's on vacation, so we're rerunning some favorite episodes for the next month or so. This week, we're revisiting Janine's bad day in 2021 and how Shannon helped her (and, we hope, you) turn it around. Everyone has a bad day some time. On the day we recorded this episode, Janine was experiencing a bad day that left a dark cloud hanging over her head. Shannon was able to make suggestions that helped her (and can help you) make a bad day better. Discussion topics include: • How it's possible to reset bad day • Janine's terrible, horrible, no good very bad day • Taking a step back during a bad day and looking on the bright side • Wallowing vs trying to snap out of it • "Yes, and..." • The importance of acknowledging when something sucks; it allows your unconscious mind to feel gratitude • Learning from our bad days • Giving yourself a reset by moving your body and shifting your energy • Getting in touch with what's important to you to help you get past a bad day • The value of a good laugh on a bad day Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
Bothered by an overabundance of paper and email? This episode is for you. Last week, Shannon and Janine discussed working through backlogs and this week we share some strategies for creating systems so those backlogs don't come back. Specifically we talk about ideas for email, snail mail and paper in general. Discussion topics include: • How having a system allows you to bounce back when stuff piles up during transitions • That it's totally normal for systems to fail sometimes • The more successful your system, the smoother things will go • Creating systems for email • Automating systems as much as possible • Unsubscribing from email lists • The value of daily attention to email • Shannon's strategy for handling her email by ignoring it most of the time • Freedom Filer, the filing system that changed Shannon's life • Being very discerning about the paper you want to keep in your life • Shannon's need for a system for storing her cartoons and urban sketch notebooks • Keeping accessibility top of mind when setting up storage systems Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
We published this episode back in February 2020 and unfortunately backlogs are not a thing of the past! We thought we'd rerun it for those who are still dealing with this challenge. When stuff piles up in your home or office it can overwhelming to contemplate plowing through it and getting rid of the backlog. Add perfectionist tendencies to the equation and it can be even more challenging. In this episode, Janine and Shannon discuss some strategies for working through a backlog. Stay tuned next week when we discuss preventing pileups so the backlogs don't come back. Discussion topics include: • The satisfaction of working through a backlog • Our own current backlogs • Dealing with a (tremendous!) email backlog • Picking the low-hanging fruit first • How putting like things together can help you decide to get rid of stuff • An easier way of dealing with filing: Keep less paper! • The value of doing a high-level presort before filing • How a timer can help you get through your backlog • Allowing yourself to deal with a backlog with as much ease as possible • Isolating a backlog to allow you to work on it a little at a time without adding to it • Dealing with a backlog of postal mail • Remember: The job's not done until the tools are put away See the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for a link and an update!
Squee! Janine and Shannon have exciting news to share: We've both completed a training program to earn the certification YNAB Certified Budgeting Coaches. We're very excited to coach people so they can benefit from this unique budgeting methodology and software as we have. This week we talk all about why we love YNAB (You Need a Budget). Discussion topics include: • We've finished our certification program and are now YNAB Certified Budgeting Coaches • We learned so much! • What's YNAB? It's You Need A Budget, a methodology and software for budgeting. We love it. • How the training program gave us a deeper knowledge of both the methodology and software • How YNAB's Rule Three: Roll with the Punches appeals to the "good enough" in us! • The baked-in expectation that you will change things in your YNAB budget • A key component of YNAB: You budget only money that you have • The similarities between YNAB and an envelope system of spending • A major YNAB goal: Get out of the paycheck-to-paycheck cycle • The peace of mind YNAB has given Janine while she and her husband plan the financial implications of his retirement • How YNAB is helpful for people with lower and higher incomes (and everyone in between) • How YNAB is useful for both getting out of debt and saving money • The two-person virtual YNAB retreat that Shannon and Janine are planning • The joy of having a new focus • Shannon's 20th anniversary as a life coach! • Our plan to talk about YNAB monthly in this podcast • The freedom of having clarity around your finances Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
Having fun is important! In this laughter-infused episode, Shannon and Janine have fun discussing how to prioritize fun and adding fun to every day life. Discussion topics include: • Our criterion for continuing with our podcast: We'll keep doing it as long as we're having fun • How fun is different for different people • We agree: Things are fun when laughter is involved • Things can be fun without laughter too! • Fun with jigsaw puzzles • Janine's upcoming trip to Australia to attend a super-fun live-music-centric wedding party • All the fun dancing at Shannon's wedding • How your attitude can affect how much fun you have • Understanding what fun is for you and incorporating it into your life • Making day-to-day stuff more fun • Janine's dog Bix, the Fun Enforcer (and how perhaps she should change her attitude about it) • Letting things be fun • Shannon's cat, Cleo, who thinks being chased is very fun • The psychological and physical benefits of having fun • Prioritizing fun • Janine and Shannon's obsession with the TV show Station 19 • How things are more fun when you share them • How YNAB has made budgeting fun • Finding fun ways to do the things you need to do (Zumba class vs step aerobics, for example) • Gamification • The fun reward of gold stars Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for a link
One of the hardest parts about perfectionism is that it can mess with your feelings of self worth. In this episode, Janine and Shannon discuss how your value as a person has nothing to do with how perfectly you do things. Discussion topics include: • Early spring in Portland and St. Louis! • One of the difficult things about perfectionism: Feeling bad about not being able to be perfect • How some people can really beat themselves up over imperfection • How hard it is to get over this when you're caught up in it • The valuable message from KC Davis of Struggle Care • How a messy house is value neutral • Starting to consider the possibility that your struggles don't make you a bad person • How your worth doesn't change based on how perfectly you do things • How recognizing that your actions don't define you can calm down your nervous system • The debilitating effect of letting perfectionism dictate your self worth • How things can be organized and still a little messy • Thinking of yourself as a good person independent of the state of things around you or your unfinished task list • Entertaining the idea that it's okay to be imperfect • The heart of our podcast: We want people to feel good about themselves and be okay with however they are Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for a photo of the card Shannon painted and for links!
Life can get so frazzled when you don't build in buffers. In this episode Shannon and Janine discuss the value of buffers and some different ways you can build them into your life. Discussion topics include: • Janine's current frustrations about her busy schedule • The culprit: She's not scheduling the desk time she needs • How Janine gets cranky when her schedule is too full • Being realistic about what you can do in a day without feeling tired and cranky • How we are able do fewer things in a day as we get older • The importance of being aware that things needs to change • Different ways to build buffers in your life • The demoralizing effect of having things undone on your task list day after day • How arriving somewhere early is creating valuable time, not wasting time • Making a buffer non-negotiable • Shannon's three-thing limit in her calendar and how she builds a buffer around that limit • Building a buffer when you don't have complete control over your time • Delegation as a tool for building a buffer • Building a financial buffer (hooray for YNAB!) • Allowing a buffer of white space in your physical surroundings
Doing the easiest thing first (the low-hanging fruit) gets a bad rap. But it can actually make everything easier. In this episode Janine and Shannon discuss strategies around using low-hanging fruit to get stuff done. Discussion topics include: • Low-hanging fruit counts! • How allowing yourself to address low-hanging fruit first can help you get started • Starting with something easy and stopping when it stops being easy • Shannon's ingenious closet-cleaning method • How there's always the lowest hanging fruit • Addressing low-hanging fruit in any situation • Low-hanging fruit in task management • Remembering that you don't have to do everything at once • Counting every step (even the easiest step!) • Magical words: "Done for now" • Giving yourself credit for what you're doing • Making sure your next action feels really doable (and if it doesn't, scale it back or move on to something else) Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
In honor of next week's big in-person and virtual genealogy conference, RootsTech, we are re-running a 2018 episode about applying a good-enough mentality to genealogy research. Enjoy! Shannon and Janine are among the millions of people who enjoy doing genealogy research. In fact, as a genealogy blogger, Janine devotes a significant amount of time to it. In this episode, we discuss Shannon's challenges with her genealogy research (which involve an enviable literal treasure trove of original documents given to her by her mother) and discuss some strategies to help her get past the perfectionism that's stopping her from proceeding with her research. Discussion topics include: • How a lot of people get hung up on perfectionism in genealogy • How genealogical standards can feel intimidating • How the discovery of Shannon's treasure trove was both wonderful and stress-inducing • The responsibility Shannon feels to the rest of her family to care for these documents correctly and share them • The importance of knowing why genealogy research (and anything else) is important to you • Some practical advice for dealing with these precious documents (keyword: checklist) • Creating a "good enough" standard to make source citations easier • Getting past the overwhelm of genealogy research • Janine's “good enough” research log Bonus! We get an update on Shannon's morning routine at the end of the episode. She shares how her good enough attitude and the minimum standards she has set have helped her establish and stick with a great morning routine. Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links and an update from Shannon.
Why are we so hard on ourselves? It's not a rhetorical question. This week, Janine and Shannon discuss self-compassion and treating ourselves as nicely as we treat our besties. Discussion topics include: • The folly of harping on your past mistakes in an attempt to avoid those mistakes again • How constantly reminding yourself of your mistakes makes it hard to do the thing you're trying to do • A technique for letting go of past mistakes • Acknowledging a past struggle before asking yourself to do the thing again • Shannon's Boring Change technique that helps you understand the deeper need behind your behaviors (and can help you modify your behavior) • Understanding when you're struggling and being kind to yourself • Channeling your own BFF and thinking about what they'd say to you • Ask yourself, "What would I say to a friend with this challenge?" • Recognizing that you're not the only person struggling with something • Nobody is flawless! • Setting realistic expectations so you don't beat yourself up • How it's helpful to put a positive spin on things • An important reminder: How you choose to perceive things makes a big difference in how you experience them because it has a bearing on what you notice • The value of a gratitude journal to help you look for the good things in your life • A recipe for being your own BFF: Acknowledge the issues, looking for the good, and let the feelings that the good inspire in you help you move forward Check out the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for some great links!
Prior to recording this episode, Shannon and Janine listened to a podcast discussing the new book "The Perfectionist's Guide To Losing Control: A Path To Peace And Power." The podcast sparked this week's discussion of aiming for ideal rather than flawless, the more commonly used definition of perfectionism. To us, ideal feels much more attainable and healthy than flawless. Discussion topics include: • The inspiration for this topic: a Life Kit podcast episode called "What Kind of Perfectionist Are You?" featuring Katherine Morgan Schafler, the author of the new book, "The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control: A Path To Peace and Power." • The Latin root of the word perfect: "Completely done" not "flawless" • Shifting away from thinking that perfect means flawless • The author's take that perfectionism can be powerful if it is approached in a healthy way • The interesting idea that there is a constructive, rather than destructive, side to perfectionism • According to the author, people who are perfectionists are people who see the gap between reality and the ideal and want to bridge that gap • The problem becomes when the reasons behind bridging the gap are unhealthy • How Janine's husband is happy to be a perfectionist and uses his drive in a way that serves him (and her) • How the word "ideal" is more subjective and therefore more attainable than "flawless" • The relief in pursuing an ideal rather than striving for perfection • How this is one of the least flawless recordings we've done, but we're embracing it! • Thinking about what parts of perfectionism can be useful • Letting go of the idea that perfectionists are striving for flawless • Getting in touch with your why to identify whether your perfectionistic drive is healthy or not Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links to the book and the podcast that inspired this episode!
The anticipation and anxiety around starting a new adventure can be even more intense when you're dealing with perfectionism. In this episode, Janine and Shannon discuss a new adventure they're both embarking on and how they're preparing for it. • How Shannon is feeling good (not just better) at good enough! • Janine and Shannon's excitement to be starting the YNAB (You Need A Budget) Certified Coaching program together • How there are some nerves mixed in with the excitement • Easing our nervousness and setting ourselves up for success • Our different approaches to getting ready for this course • Electronic vs paper note taking • The value of staying flexible when you're starting something new, because you don't know until you know • How our plans for structure around Getting to Good Enough fell by the wayside very quickly • Thinking about whether a project needs to be structured or not when you're starting out • How building in some structure can make a new adventure feel doable • Getting in touch with why starting a particular new adventure is important to you • Putting your why into a few words to help you stay on track in your new adventure • Acknowledging that things probably aren't going to go perfectly so that you're not derailed by problems Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for some YNAB-related links!
In what appears to be a new tradition, every other January we run this episode on Hobbies, one of our favorites. It first appeared in January 2019. Enjoy! Perfectionism can get in the way of starting or enjoying hobbies. This week Shannon and Janine talk about their hobbies (and attempted hobbies) and share strategies for getting past perfectionism so you can enjoy your hobbies. Discussion topics include: • How every hobby Shannon's had has been marred by perfectionism • How perfectionism can get in the way of starting and enjoying a new hobby • The fact that new hobbies usually have to be bad before they can get good • How Shannon inspired Janine to start knitting fourteen years ago (spoiler alert: only one of them is still knitting) • Process versus results in doing hobbies (like knitting) • Janine's 12-year adventure with Barbara Walker's Learn-to-Knit Afghan • Why starting a hobby by shopping can be a mistake • How Shannon is managing to stick with her latest hobby: Learning Portuguese • How guided lessons can help provide structure to make learning a new hobby fun • Figuring what counts as engaging in your hobby when you're starting out • How frequent practice can make learning a new hobby easier Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenogh.com for loads of links and some pictures!
Sometimes finishing up a project that you've put down can feel daunting, especially if you're concerned about doing it perfectly. But finishing can be so rewarding! In this episode, Janine and Shannon discuss how to start finishing--and how to decide something is finished. Discussion topics include: • Shannon's concern that she'll find it hard to remember that it's 2023 • The four-decades-long project that Shannon finished over the holidays • Her project: a crewel embroidery project she started when she was 11 • The ideal environment that allowed her to finish: She was trapped inside with crafty friends during a blizzard. • How she'll use the pillow cover she embroidered • Crewel embroidery vs other embroidery • Letting go of perfection with this project • The value of having other people on board when you're trying to finish • How things look less imperfect with time (but you don't have to wait 44 years!) • Another finished project: Multiple unfinished crossword puzzles that Shannon had been saving up • The feeling you get when you finish something you've put aside • Calling something done even if it's not completely finished • The Loose Ends project where crafters help finish craft projects started by people who have died • How perfectionism can make the decision to finish something difficult Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links and for a picture of Shannon's finished crewel project!
Getting dressed doesn't have to be hard. Embracing an effortless wardrobe can make everything easier. In this episode Shannon and Janine talk about the benefits of simplified dressing and how they go about making their wardrobe more effortless. Discussion topics include: • Is it a flock or herd of sheep? • Janine's recent closet clearing (including stats!) • Shannon's unhappiness with the lack of ease in her closet • Shannon's unwritten (and perhaps ill-conceived) rule about "wasting" clothing • How Shannon handled the logistics of a capsule wardrobe • Janine's experience with Project 333 • How focusing on a single fabric makes it easy for Janine to keep her wardrobe lean • The magical odor-resistant properties of merino wool • Strategies for doing less laundry • Letting go of the idea you have to wear something different every day • The beauty of having a wardrobe that you don't feel the need to update • Shopping for recreation (we don't recommend it) • The environmental impact of creating and maintaining a wardrobe Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for an update from Shannon + loads of links!
Just in time for the new year, we're re-running the second part of our 2018 short series on habits. We hope you find it helpful! Last week Janine and Shannon talked about creating helpful habits. This week, we look at the other side of the coin--letting go of bad habits. Shannon shares her view that all habits (even bad ones) are the result of good intentions and talks about how we can use that information to kick bad habits. Discussion topics include: • The inherent value of bad habits • Peeling back the many layers of a bad habit to find the need it fulfills • Figuring out how to fulfill the positive intention in a more beneficial way • Being kind to yourself as you work on letting go of bad habits • Creating a helpful habit that is incompatible with the bad habit • The double-edged sword of habits becoming so automatic • Becoming conscious of your unwanted habits and breaking their spell • Shannon's three-step process to letting go of a bad habit • Remembering that your bad habits don't define you
The new year is a great time to think about creating habits that will make your life easier. Shannon and Janine discussed habits early on in the podcast--way back in October 2018. We thought now would be great time to re-run this episode. When it comes to living an easy life, helpful habits are everything. In this episode Shannon and Janine discuss why good habits are important and how to create them. Discussion topics include: • How automating the mundane tasks frees your brain for more important things • The challenge of creating and maintaining new habits • Janine's misguided compulsion to start creating new habits on the first day of the month • The unwritten rules and beliefs we all have about habits • How a good enough mindset can help in creating new habits (hint: take teeny tiny steps!) • Some strategies for remembering new habits • The power of chaining habits together into a routine • Shannon's gentle method for creating new habits • Sticker charts -- they're not just for kids! Tune in next week for our episode on overcoming bad habits! Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
A vision board is a great way to get clear on what's important to you and keep it in sight year-round. The good news is that it doesn't have to be difficult! Janine and Shannon got together on Zoom to create digital vision boards and recorded this episode right after we finished. We had so much fun! Discussion topics include: • We created vision boards together! • How Shannon used magazines to hone in on her theme for the year prior to creating her board • Combining personal and work aspirations in a single vision board • What is a vision board? • Keeping your vision board in front of you • The traditional way to create a vision board: cutting out pictures from magazine to make a collage • Janine's interim digital vision board tool: Comic Lite • The digital tools Janine and Shannon used: Canva + Pinterest • Figuring out when to call a vision board done • The beauty of being able to change a digital vision board • The time Janine's vision board came true in spades • The two-pronged value of a vision board: getting you clear on your goals + keeping it in front of you • Integrating a word of the year into a vision board • Creating goals or guidelines that support the vision board Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com to see our vision boards and get the link to the video we used on creating one.
Self care never goes out of style. When we originally recorded this episode in January of 2019, we had no idea how important self care was going to become during the pandemic. This holiday season, we thought we'd share this important message again. Now that the holidays are over, it's a good idea to focus on taking care of yourself. This week Janine and Shannon discuss the importance of self care and what that means for them. Discussion topics include: • The fact that self care means something different to everyone • Shannon and Janine's favorite self-care activities • The joy of floating in a flotation tank • The importance of creating time for self care (whatever that means to you) • Shannon's idea for making exercise feel like self care when it usually doesn't • Taking away the barriers to taking care of yourself • Making sure that your treats (like shopping) are actually good self care • Quiet reading or nice walks as self care (Shannon) • Crafting with friends as self care (Janine) • How Janine and her brother practiced self care by gorging on pot stickers in Walla Walla • Belly laughs as self care Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for loads of links and a photo of Janine, her adorable father, and pot stickers!
We all make mistakes. And sometimes it can be hard to figure out how to mitigate those mistake, especially if you let perfectionism get in the way. This week, Janine and Shannon discuss a Big Mistake Janine made and how she dealt with it, extracting some lessons for us all. Discussion topics include: * The mistake Janine made in buying discounted postage stamps and recommending them to her newsletter readers * How she tried to rectify the mistake by sending another email to her newsletter readers warning them about the potential for counterfeit stamps *One lesson: If something seems too good to be true, it probably is * Minimizing the amount of time spent dealing with mistakes * Apologizing and moving on * Rectifying mistakes without causing any harm (even to yourself) * Letting mistakes be a learning opportunity * Trying to avoid making the mistake again without creating convoluted systems * How beating yourself up over a mistake doesn't help * Resisting the temptation to fix inconsequential mistakes * People appreciate when you admit mistakes! * Being gracious when other people make mistakes * Assuming good intentions * Being kind to yourself and others when it comes to mistakes Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com
We make so many choices each and every day and some are way more important than others. In this episode, Shannon and Janine discuss saving your brain power for the tougher choices and some strategies for making those choices easier. Discussion topics include: • The executive functioning drain of having so many choices to make • Letting as many decisions as possible being easy • Saving your executive function for the critical decisions • Making easy choices in advance • Janine's recent 30-day dress challenge (she wore two striped dresses at the same time!) • Limiting choices to make decisions easier • Shannon's no-brainer breakfast • The benefit of daily habits • A deep dive into overnight oats • Saving your brain power for consequential decisions (like health insurance) • Breaking down big decisions into smaller bites • Figuring out what aspects of an important decision are most important to you to narrow down the options • Optimizers vs satisficers • Letting go of the idea that you have to make the best choice • The article on overcoming choice overload that inspired this episode (thank you, Elise!) Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for a link to the article that inspired this episode and for a picture of Janine wearing two striped dresses
It's officially winter holiday season, which can be stressful for many people. We want to help our listeners let it be easy! This week, we're re-running Episode 28, which we originally recorded for the 2018 holiday season. Our wish for you for this holiday season is less stress and more joy. The holiday season can be really hard on perfectionists, who often want to do it all and do it right. This week Shannon and Janine talk about making it easier for perfectionists to let the holidays be easy. Discussion topics include: • How “shoulds” can get in the way of enjoying the holidays • Janine's truly simple holiday traditions • Choosing the elements of the holidays that are doable • The time-saving benefits of holiday cookie exchanges • How the December holidays can be challenging for perfectionists • How Shannon creates the holidays she wants (including this year's Thanksgiving of giving) • Embracing good enough to make holidays easier • How giving clutter-free gifts helps the recipient and makes gift-giving easier • A special clutter-free gift idea from special guest Miranda Adams, Janine's niece • Giving the gift of experiences or services, rather than stuff • Choosing a theme word to capture the essence of what you want for the season to use as a guidepost to help you make choices • Starting earlier on holiday tasks to avoid the stress of last-minute activities Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
Being content with your life is something most of us strive for. And it's so within our reach. This week Shannon and Janine discuss ways to be cultivate contentment while still being open to change. Discussion topics include: • Janine's unremarkable but happy-making dog walk • Noticing the things that are enjoyable and going well • Paying attention to problems vs consciously focusing on the things that are okay • Feeling gratitude even during adversity • The value of a gratitude practice • Shannon's happiness-inducing hummingbird feeder • Asking yourself "What else could this mean?" when something goes awry • How Janine and Shannon feel fortunate to be glass-half-full people • Aspiring for better while also feeling content • Remember: Feeling content doesn't mean you're giving up • Allowing yourself to be content where you are while you consider how you might like things to be different Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com to see a beautiful photo of Shannon's cat!
It is so easy for even the most ingrained habits to go by the wayside when you have a change in routine or other disruption. This week, Janine and Shannon discuss taking baby steps to reinvigorate your beneficial habits. Discussion topics include: • Janine's good-enough pre-Halloween raking of leaves • How disruption of routine can affect habits • Looking forward to the habits you need now, rather than blindly trying to recreate past habits • Janine's daily yoga practice that she's trying to rejuvenate • Allowing small efforts to count when you're building or rebuilding habits • Shannon's end of-the-day-yoga practice with her husband • Another beneficial habit: Making the bed • Shannon and Janine's favorite habit: Working on YNAB (You Need A Budget) every morning • Another habit Shannon is reinvigorating, using her Bullet Journal (in concert with Todoist) • Janine's enthusiastic use of her Bullet Journal • The value of the Bullet Journal index • Pairing new habits with existing ones Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for pictures and links!
Being sick is hard. And perfectionism can make it even harder. In this episode Shannon and Janine talk with Jen Singer medical writer and author of the Just Diagnosed Guides. Jen has had her share of illnesses and she has used her extensive experience as a medical writer and a sick person to help other people diagnosed with illness, as well the people who care about them. Jen also shares how being ill helped cure her perfectionism! Discussion topics include: • The journey that led Jen to helping people who are sick and those who care for them Jen's Just Diagnosed Guides • Jen's mission to take the loneliness out of illness • Janine's experience as the caregiver to a heart patient • Why googling your medical condition isn't a great idea • How Jen learned the hard way to let go of perfectionism when she was ill the first time • Energy triage • Living with a chronic disease • Jen's advice on figuring out how you want to spend your time • The importance of self care and how the pandemic might have made it easier • Supporting someone with an acute illness vs a chronic one • The thing to say to a sick person: "How is it for you today?" (And then listen) • What NOT to say to a sick person • "It's not enough to mean well. Do better." • More about how being sick cured Jen of perfectionism • The physical consequences of perfectionism • Resisting googling a diagnosis • Letting go of perfectionism if you're a caregiver • The Circles of Grief Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
It can be so rewarding to volunteer for a deserving organization. But it can difficult to find the right place. In this episode, Janine and Shannon discuss some considerations and strategies for finding an organization to donate your time or money. Discussion topics include: • Avoiding perfectionism in finding a place to volunteer • How Shannon found her volunteer gig at a pediatric ICU • Ways to let it be easier to find volunteer opportunities • How it's hard to take action when you don't what you want to do • Considerations for selecting a charitable action • Some different ways to volunteer • Trying out some places before making a long-term volunteer commitment • Some of the benefits to volunteering • How perfectionism can also get in the way of donating goods • Some of the perils to wanting to donate to the perfect charity • Oregon's Cultural Trust that can help make it easy to donate Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for loads of links!
Janine's father, Gene, passed away in August and she was the beneficiary of much help and kindness from her friends, including Shannon. This week, we discuss her experience and some of the things that have made navigating loss a little easier for Janine. Discussion topics include: • The beautiful fall weather that Shannon and Janine are enjoying this year • The passing of Janine's father, Gene Adams, on August 20, 2022 • The extra difficulty of losing a second parent • The intense feeling of being alone that Janine experienced after his passing • Janine's great relief when Shannon offered to drop everything and drive 4.5 hours to be with her that day • How another friend, Denise, flew cross-country to support Janine and help her navigate all the tasks that needed to be done • The somewhat bizarre visit the three of us made to the funeral home • The unique burial approach we took with Gene's ashes (it involves a basketball) • How Janine (with Denise's encouragement and help) let it be easy to create a slide show for the memorial service • The preparations Gene and Janine had made in advance that made the week after his death easier • The help Janine received from family caregivers to clear out Gene's apartment in a week • The value of seeking and accepting help during difficult times • The wonderful restaurant, Kinglet, that served up great food and kindness to Janine throughout her stay in Walla Walla • Recognizing that there is no right way to navigate loss • Giving yourself grace • How Janine got the date wrong in her father's obituary • The value of getting help from someone who is a step removed emotionally • The toll that grief can take on your brain power Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com to see a picture of the basketball urn and for a link to a special restaurant.
We're back! After an absence of six weeks, Janine and Shannon are happy to be back at our microphones! This week we're discussing Shannon's trip of a lifetime, her 217-mile walk along the Camino de Santiago. In the episode we learn all about her amazing trip, including how perfectionism sometimes reared its head. Discussion topics include: • Shannon's daily routine while she was walking the Camino • The details of Shannon's solo trip (she walked 217 miles in 18 days!) • How Shannon shared the images and memories of the trip each day • How perfectionism got in the way of her keeping a sketch journal of the trip • The after-the-fact sketch journal she's now creating • How this really was a "trip of a lifetime" • Finding accommodations the night before vs planning multiple days at once • How it can feel like more pressure to get it right when you're traveling alone • Shannon's "finish line" experience at the end of the walk Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for some great links!
It can be really helpful to let go of perfectionism when preparing for big things. Shannon is embracing imperfection in her preparations for her much-anticipated trip to Portugal. This episode Shannon and Janine discuss preparing imperfectly as a way to free yourself from stress. Discussion topics include: • Shannon's (imperfect) preparation for her month-long trip to Portugal • Shannon's itinerary • The 175-mile solo walking part of her trip • Janine's over preparation for her 4,000-mile solo driving trip in 2020 • Asking for help in finding the right backpack • The kindness of Shannon's naturopath in lending her a backpack • Shannon's walking footwear • How Shannon is figuring out what clothing to take on the trip • Shrugging off the stress of potentially making the wrong decision • Shannon's mantra: "It will be fine. I can always make a different choice." Note: We'll be taking a few weeks off while Shannon is in Portugal. See you back on October 13!
Being authentic can be hard, especially if you want to project a perfect image. Back in October 2020, we talked all about authenticity and we wanted to share again. Enjoy! Shannon and Janine both embrace being authentic. But we understand that if you have a tendency toward perfectionism that it can be hard not to strive to appear perfect. In this episode, we discuss the value of authenticity and how it can make your life easier. Discussion topics include: • How perfectionism can make it harder to show up authentically and be your true self in public • How sharing your own imperfections can help you help others. • Shannon and Janine's “warts and all” approach to presenting themselves • How this podcast helps us be authentic • The value of being approachable and human • How Janine came to terms with being authentic about being messy as a professional organizer • The imperfection that is baked into our podcast • How being authentic is much less stressful! • The self recrimination behind not living up to a persona that you created • Saying what you think even if you think the other person won't want to hear it • Making (sometimes false) assumptions about what people are asking • Shannon's trick: She assumes that anyone who asks her something is thinking, “Doesn't hurt to ask" • The freedom of not caring how you're perceived as long as you're being authentic • Shannon's approach to authenticity when she was dating
Shannon is an avid gardener (Janine actively avoids it) and this year her gardening efforts got a very late start. In this episode Shannon and Janine discuss embracing good enough in the garden and acknowledge that an imperfect garden is better than no garden at all. Discussion topics include: • Janine's aversion to getting her hands dirty • Shannon's gardening-glove strategy • How Shannon finds herself getting caught up in perfectionism in gardening • Seeing the problems instead of enjoying the successes in the garden • How there's always room for improvement with a garden • Shannon's late start on her garden this year and its ramifications • How Shannon let go of perfectionism and bought the (imperfect) plant starts that were available • Janine's good-enough rain garden that requires very little tending • Shannon's rain garden • Shannon's good-enough zinnia garden • Embracing good enough gardening next year See the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for garden photos!
Perfectionists tend to want to have all their ducks in a row before getting started on a new project. That tendency can be paralyzing. And it's so unnecessary. In this episode, which originally ran in November 2018, Janine and Shannon talk about how just starting where you are can benefit you in so many ways. Discussion topics include: • Why things don't have to be perfect in order for you to get started • That just by starting and moving forward, you create momentum • How you don't know what you need to know until you start • The paralyzing effect of perfectionism • Some current examples from Janine and Shannon's lives of how they struggle with this • How thinking of doing something as a practice or experiment can take the pressure off a new project • Starting a new system now and worrying about the backlog later • The impossibility of setting up a perfect system before you start • How stopping things that aren't working out for you is smart Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
Sometimes we have to be persistent in order to settle disputes that arise. And that can be a source of stress. In this week's episode, Shannon and Janine discuss making resolution easier (and potentially more effective) by staying positive during the process. Discussion topics include: • The happy message on Shannon's chai latte • How Shannon's husband, Mike, has been a model of positive persistence • The emotional toll that calls to customer service or disputes can take • How persistence can pay off--and be easier when you keep a positive attitude • The value of treating customer service personnel like actual human beings • Remembering that you're dealing with people who are trying to do their jobs (and their job isn't to make your life miserable) • Making other people's lives better simply by being nice to them • News flash: There's always a way to approach a problem to get it resolved--you're not at the company's mercy • Stepping away from the situation for a moment to get in touch with why it's resolving it is important to you • How it can be so much faster (and easier) just to pick up the phone and seek a resolution than perseverate about it • Taking conflict resolution one step at a time • Getting the ball rolling with a phone call rather than putting it off to give yourself space to step away when necessary • One of Shannon's NLP techniques for helping you make that call (it involves the palm of your hand) • Asking yourself, "What's one thing I can do now?" to let go of perfectionism Check out the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com.
We have all heard how important it is to stay hydrated. But for some of us, taking in the water our bodies need can feel challenging. This week, Janine and Shanon discuss some strategies for getting and staying hydrated. Discussion topics include: •How hydration is important year-round • The origin of this week's episode title • The importance of sipping water frequently, rather than chugging a lot of water at once • How the amount of water you need depends on various factors, like how active you are and what you eat • Selecting a water bottle that is easy to drink out of • Shannon's favorite water bottle • Flavoring water to make it more enjoying (including with fresh fruit!) • The effect of water temperature (bottom line: drink it at the temperature that appeals to you in the moment) • The perils of dehydration • The clear IKEA carafe that helps Janine (and Shannon's husband Mike!) stay hydrated • The encouraging water bottle Janine's employee Beth uses • Drinking water first thing in the morning • Offsetting caffeine or alcohol in your water intake • Avoiding drinking too much water • The value of adding electrolytes to water if you're not feeling hydrated by plain water • Chapped lips as a clue to dehydration • Creating a strategy for taking in enough water Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for lots of links!
We all get stressed from time to time, and some times are worse than others. In this episode Shannon and Janine discuss some stress-relief techniques, as well as some ideas for keeping stress levels low. Discussion topics include: • Janine's litany of things that are stressing her out right now • Shannon's husband's recent surgery and its resulting stress • How we feel stress in our bodies • Chronic vs acute stress • The terrific talk on stress relief that Janine heard from Kathy Willis of Lewis and Clark Community College • Kathy's Stay or Go stress assessment tool • The power of recognizing those things you can change and those you can't • The physiological changes in your body created by stress and relieved by breathing • Kathy's breathing-while-counting technique • The importance of hydration, healthy eating and a good night's sleep for relieving stress • Another stress reliever: Moving your body • Becoming aware of the stressors in your life and changing the way they affect you • The value of talking or writing about the things that stress you • Releasing yourself from perfectionism and being kind to yourself in order to lower your general stress levels • How keeping your stress levels low makes it easier to handle acute stressors • Recognizing that you do have a choice about things that stress you and letting that recognition relieve some of the stress Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
Shannon's robust meal-planning and food inventorying system that she shared in Episode 209 wasn't created in one fell swoop. In this episode we discuss how incremental problem solving can help you create systems that make you happy. Discussion topics include: • Monarch butterflies! • How complex systems are often built a little at a time • How incremental problem solving led to Shannon's system of inventorying her pantry and freezer and her meal-planning Trello board • A flashback to Deal A Meal • How Shannon uses Trello to store her recipes • Looking for the bottleneck that's causing a problem and then addressing it • What's the one thing that points you in the direction you want to go? • Adopting just part of the thing that sparks a little envy • Taking the emotions away from challenges • Be kind to yourself! Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for lots of links.
Do you have a tendency to run late? Shannon and Janine used to run perpetually late, but no more. This week we discuss the strategies we've used to go from tardy to early (or at least on time). Discussion topics include: • Our past challenges with punctuality • How perfectionism played into it • Taking into account all the time it takes to get somewhere (door to door) • Building in a 15-minute buffer in order to get places on time with ease • The life-changing value of calendar alerts • How easy it is to discount the time between getting ready to walk out the door and pulling away in your car • Janine's realization that being early is not a waste of time • How easy it is for a built-in buffer to be used up • Calculating a standard amount of time needed before leaving the house so you get up early enough to ward off stress • Running early = self care • Considering the buffer you create as a gift to yourself • The only place a buffer isn't needed: Walla Walla Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com
Janine and Shannon love reading novels for pleasure and we have found ways to fit it into our busy lives. If you like to read but don't seem to have time to read as much as you'd like, this episode might give you some ideas for squeezing in some enjoyable reading. Discussion topics include: • Our usual complaining about summer weather • Reading: A great activity no matter what the weather • Getting lost in a good book • Our reading habits and frequency (we both read at least once a day) • Reading while doing chores, thanks to audiobooks • One benefit of having a Kindle: Not having to turn a light on • Avoiding perfectionism when it comes to enjoying your reading • Why we're big advocates of e-books • Shannon's peculiar reading position • Shannon's foray into dystopian novels and psychological suspense • Janine's love for genealogical mysteries • Using Trello to organize reading lists • How the Libby app makes borrowing ebooks and audiobooks from your library so easy • Reading Insights on the Kindle app • Reading as a hobby, rather than a guilty pleasure Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
What's for dinner? Wouldn't you like to have a ready answer for that question? Shannon is living the meal planning dream and in this episode she and Janine talk about the benefits of meal planning and how Shannon goes about doing it. Be ready to be inspired! Discussion topics include: • Janine's challenges with meal planning (which revolve around the fact she doesn't cook) • Shannon's helpful husband, Mike • How Shannon's meal planning makes her week better • Planning shopping as well as meals • Shannon's jumping off point: What she already has in the freezer • How Shannon's basement freezer is organized (an inventory is involved!) • AnyList, the app Shannon uses to inventory her freezer and pantry • Shannon's favorite tools for pre-portioned food in her freezer: vacuum sealer machine + Souper Cubes • Trello, Shannon's secret weapon for meal planning • The value of meal kits for bringing new recipes into our lives • What's for dinner at Shannon's house: Burst Cherry Tomato Pasta • How meal planning is a great form of self care Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for a screenshot of Shannon's Trello board as well as links!
It's the podcast's fourth anniversary! We published our first three episodes on June 15, 2018. On our third anniversary, we published a post called Three Pillars for Three years and this year we decided to add a fourth pillar for our fourth anniversary. It's Let It Be Easy, and it's focus of our episode today. Discussion topics include: • Our fourth anniversary! • The three pillars of good enough that we identified for our third anniversary • The supreme value of knowing your why • The "fruit and flower anniversary" • The fourth pillar: Let It Be Easy • How we embraced ease in creating this podcast • How Let It Be Easy now feels beneficial to Shannon, rather than like cheating • Incorporating Let It Be Easy into challenges • Shannon's decision to seek some help in her challenge of walking 175 miles in Portugal this fall • How we embraced Let It Be Easy by recording shorter episodes • Letting it be easy in bullet journaling Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
Shannon and Janine have experienced first-hand the challenges (and rewards) of caring for elderly parents. In this episode (recorded right after Janine returned from helping her father move into assisted living), we discuss ways to make it easier to help your elderly relatives when they need your help. Note: We had some audio difficulties with this episode, but felt the topic was important enough to publish anyway. Discussion topics include: • Janine's journey with her father's diminishing memory • Shannon's reflection on the bonding time with her mother after she moved to assisted living • Janine's good fortune that her father has a sweet and sunny personality • Allowing people with memory issues to talk without correcting them • Stepping into a larger role with our parents • How calling her father daily is self-care for Janine • The joy of getting past dreaded events • Giving your elders and yourself peace of mind • Handling elders' finances • Using YNAB to help elderly relatives • Using the term "back up plan" to help elderly relatives accept help with finances • Taking over finances sooner rather than later (or laying the groundwork) • Helping elders feel independent • Keeping communication open • Discussing final arrangements with elderly parents in advance • Making your own decisions about your estate (now!) • Having conversations about family history with elderly relatives while you can • Letting go of the idea that there is a perfect way to help your elders • How any effort you make to help is better than no effort Deciding what family member will be the responsible party for an elderly family member • Janine's enthusiasm for the final season of This Is Us Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com
Back in 2020, Janine and Shannon had a robust conversation about our passion for the budgeting software You Need a Budget (YNAB). Our enthusiasm has not dimmed in the slightest, so we wanted to run it again. Money is a source of stress for so many people. One tool that both Janine and Shannon use to help them take the stress out of money and create financial peace is the software You Need a Budget (YNAB). Shannon is a YNAB master! In this episode we discuss YNAB and other strategies for creating financial peace. (And Shannon offers to help any listener who needs help with YNAB!) Discussion topics include: • The key to Shannon's financial peace: YNAB (You Need a Budget) software • Rule 1 with YNAB: Give each dollar a job! • How YNAB can help you manage an irregular income by creating a buffer • Budgeting for next month's expenses • Shannon's addiction to interacting with her money every day in YNAB (it takes less than 15 minutes!) • Budgeting for annual expenses monthly to eliminate big surprise payments • How YNAB can help create peace in relationships when people share money • Reading a book about YNAB vs trying it out first • How Janine is pairing YNAB and Quickbooks to help her stay on top of her bookkeeping • The peace that comes with being on top of your money • Using Undebt.it to help with debt payoff • How YNAB can help with automatic credit card payments • Shannon's offer to help out anyone who's trying out YNAB in our Facebook group • A strategy for creating a buffer so that this month's income pays next month's expenses • Making money feel supportive rather than stressful Note: Since this was recorded two and a half years ago, Janine has achieved the financial peace she sought, thanks to YNAB. She is now debt-free and happily handles four budgets daily. She is grateful for YNAB (and Shannon's YNAB mentorship) literally every day. Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
Taking care of ourselves is always important. But it's especially important during stressful times. This week Shannon and Janine discuss prioritizing self care so it's there for you when you need it the most. Discussion topics include: • The fact that self-care doesn't have to take a lot of time • The fallacy that you will get more done if you skip self care • The reality that by taking care of yourself you actually become more productive • The wisdom of Gandhi: "I have so much to accomplish today that I must meditate for two hours instead of one." • The more hectic life gets, the harder it is to prioritize self care • Contemplating self care before you need it Building in a few breaks per day • An energizing half minute: Knocking on Heaven's Door from Yoga with Adriene • Simple ways to take care of yourself (like drinking plenty of water) • An important point: Anything you can do to alleviate stress is self care • Recognizing the things you do throughout the day that are actually self care • Meal planning as self care (watch out for a future episode on this topic!) • Incorporating self care into a morning routine • Planning and task management to reduce stress (and provide self care) • Giving yourself credit for taking care of yourself See the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!
Janine is in Walla Walla moving her dad into assisted living, so she didn't have a spare moment to record an episode. So we're re-running an episode from August 2020. Enjoy! Setting boundaries allows you to live a life based on your core values. This week, Shannon and Janine discuss getting in touch with what's important to you as a way to help you set boundaries that ensure you're doing the things that align with your why. They use a recent real-life example to illustrate how they recently benefited from boundary setting. Discussion topics include: • How it can be hard for people-pleasing perfectionists to set boundaries • How boundaries can help ensure that you're doing the thing that most aligns with your why • The keystone of the getting-to-good-enough mentality: getting in touch with what's important to you • How Janine and Shannon harnessed our boundary-setting skills to make an invitation to present together work for us • Our surprise that there were no objections from the program organizer to our request for an informal presentation • How strange it feels sometimes to podcast without video • The many ways it can be useful to get comfortable setting good-enough boundaries • Getting in touch with what's important to you as a guideline for setting boundaries • Letting go of a fear of missing out or disappointing people with your boundaries • How having boundaries can save you from committing to something you can't follow through on • Remembering that when you pass on something you don't like to do, you're giving an opportunity to someone who does like to do it • Considering boundaries as gutter bumpers that keep you headed in the direction you want to go • Shannon's sweet spot in bowling (there's beer involved) Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com.