Joe Benigno and Evan Roberts

Have we seen the end of Mike Tomlin as a coach in Pittsburgh and can that benefit the Jets? Plus the Mets are interested in Kyle Tucker and things are moving fast.

The Steelers do it again: playoff game, offense disappears, season ends, and Steeler fans immediately want Mike Tomlin gone. The guys debate whether it's actually Tomlin who might be ready to walk away, Sean Payton-style, take a TV break, and reset. They break down the never-ending Pittsburgh QB problem, why the timing makes a Giants move tough (contract and trade compensation), and why a one-year Tomlin hiatus could be a Jets fan's dream scenario down the line. Plus, Aaron Rodgers' early exit turns into a bigger conversation: what's his next move, and has he stopped being the “difference-maker” at this stage of his career? The hour also hits the record-setting coaching vacancy chaos, fan reaction clips, and the bigger “great coach vs. postseason ceiling” debate.

Hour 2 dives deeper into the John Harbaugh sweepstakes and asks the real question: who actually threatens the Giants most. The crew runs a “Pick 3” ranking of the top teams that could lure Harbaugh away, weighing roster appeal, quarterback situations, draft capital, cap space, and the one factor they keep coming back to: ownership stability. Atlanta's reputation and leadership get a hard look, Cleveland is framed as the storm you monitor but do not fear, and Tennessee jumps into the conversation as a sneaky powerhouse threat with a young QB, a high pick, major cap room, and an intriguing roster base. Then it gets personal as Logan Ryan takes shots at Joe Shane, and the guys debate how much to trust criticism that might come from a bad breakup. Plus, a fun detour into what a “lunch meeting at Harbaugh's house” should actually look like, a caller claims Tom Coughlin may have made a key outreach, and the hour spirals into Posted and Toasted, Al Dukes going viral over “F the Packers,” and a bigger argument about class, rivalries, and why fans love hearing their coach talk like a fan.

Hour 3 starts with a brutal scorecard check on the show's MLB free agent predictions, as everyone whiffs on Alex Bregman landing with the Cubs. Then it turns into full-blown “Head Coach Vacancy Bingo,” with rapid-fire picks across the league and a heavy Giants focus as the crew debates John Harbaugh vs. Kevin Stefanski, plus the looming possibility of a Mike Tomlin breakup in Pittsburgh and who could replace him. The hour also features a troll-heavy “Aaron Rodgers 5 Greatest Career Accomplishments” list that spirals into a Jets expectations argument, followed by Rodgers' postgame comments defending Mike Tomlin and taking shots at media “experts.” On the baseball side, the Mets get linked to a short, mega-AAV Kyle Tucker offer, then Jeff Passan's report drops with Nolan Arenado finally getting traded. Plus, a classic Evan social moment: Sean Morash compared to a Cabbage Patch Kid, with the receipts. #EvanAndTiki #Giants #JohnHarbaugh #MikeTomlin #AaronRodgers #Jets #NFLCoachingCarousel #MLBHotStove #Mets #KyleTucker #NolanArenado #WFAN

Listen to the 4th and final hour of this edition of the Evan and Tiki show.

With Mike McCarthy meeting the Giants, the crew plays out what the interview really needs to cover and what answers could actually change minds. The focus stays on McCarthy's staff plan, how he would keep up defensively with modern offenses, and whether he can restore real on field accountability after too many Giants lapses. The conversation widens into full Harbaugh watch, with John Harbaugh framed as the Juan Soto of the coaching market and the clear prize everyone is waiting on. Calls weigh in on how Giants fans would react to a McCarthy hire, fears of settling if Harbaugh goes elsewhere, and what kind of staff Harbaugh would build for a young quarterback like Jaxson Dart. The segment also veers into a heated debate on teams threatening season ticket holders over secondary market sales, with Evan arguing it is unfair for long suffering fans to take losses for years and then get blocked from finally making money back when a team gets good.

The Mets are making a real push for Kyle Tucker, with reports of a massive short term, high AAV offer that fits David Stearns and Steve Cohen's recent roster philosophy. The crew debates whether the Mets can actually beat out the Dodgers or Blue Jays, and why Tucker might prefer a short deal to reenter a thin future free agent market.

Shaun Morash fires up full Cinco de Luncho mayhem, sending the booth into total chaos with yelling, laughing, and a runaway bumper. The show then pivots to Aaron Rodgers and the strangest possible retirement scenario: he quietly disappears without ever officially announcing he's done, while nobody even knows who he married.

Evan and Tiki pull out the “prediction desk” to grade their MLB free agent picks and immediately take an L: everyone misses on Alex Bregman, who signs with the Cubs. The scoreboard gets updated, the slow-burn MLB offseason gets roasted, and then the show pivots hard into “NFL Head Coach Free Agent Bingo.” They fire off early predictions for the Browns, Raiders, and Titans, with names like Mike McCarthy, Jim Schwartz, Brian Flores, Jesse Minter, Joe Brady, and Matt Nagy getting tossed around. The segment crescendos into the Giants debate, where the crew lines up on John Harbaugh vs. Kevin Stefanski and what each hire would mean for the franchise moving forward.

A brand-new Posted and Toasted kicks off with a rapid-fire trip through old takes and wild questions, including “Who leaves the Chargers first, Justin Herbert or Jim Harbaugh?” and a flashback to harsh Harbaugh slander that did not exactly age well. Then the segment turns into a full-blown debate after Al Dukes posts a viral complaint about Ben Johnson's “F the Packers” moment. Tiki is genuinely annoyed, Evan defends rivalry heat, and the guys argue whether fans actually want more personality from coaches or more “class.” It gets even better when the show plays Ben Johnson's response and he basically refuses to apologize, leaning into the rivalry. Add in a side quest about “skinny fat,” the YouTube chat judging Evan's belly, and the whole thing becomes classic chaos.

The Giants' coaching search heats up as the guys rank the top three teams that could realistically steal John Harbaugh away from New York. Cleveland is framed as the storm you monitor but do not fear, Atlanta's ownership and reputation put them firmly in the mix, and Tennessee emerges as the surprise heavyweight with cap space, draft capital, and a quarterback Harbaugh might actually prefer. The conversation shifts from fan logic to what truly matters in these decisions: ownership stability, roster flexibility, control, and long-term vision. Logan Ryan's blunt criticism of Joe Shane sparks debate over bias versus truth, while callers weigh in on Tom Coughlin's reported outreach and whether behind-the-scenes relationships could help close the deal. Plus, the show takes a hilarious detour into what really happens at a coach recruiting lunch, who should bring the food, and why stadium talk might be nothing more than noise.

The NFL coaching carousel might be headed for history: the guys note the league could be staring at a record number of head coach openings if Pittsburgh joins the party. Then the show pivots into full New York sports pain, with the Rangers getting buried, “Fire Drury” chants, and the Nets openly tanking. After that, it's Steelers fan therapy time. They play viral fan reactions that range from blaming Arthur Smith to blaming the crowd itself, then get into the uncomfortable part: if Pittsburgh moves on from Tomlin, are there even enough legit candidates to replace a guy who never has a losing season? The debate turns into a bigger sports question: when you're sick of the ceiling, is blowing it up worth the risk? The hour finishes with a sharp breakdown of Aaron Rodgers' sideline blowups and why it hits differently when you have not earned years of trust in a locker room. Jets perspective, Steelers perspective, and the brutal truth about disappointment all collide.

Another January, another familiar ending in Pittsburgh. The Steelers bow out early, the offense goes silent, and Steeler fans immediately turn their frustration toward Mike Tomlin. But the conversation shifts to a more uncomfortable question: what if Tomlin is the one who's ready to move on? The guys break down the post Ben Roethlisberger quarterback void, the never-ending coordinator carousel, and why the Steelers' constant playoff appearances may actually be trapping them in mediocrity. They explore the Sean Payton comparison, the idea of Tomlin stepping away to reset, and why that scenario could quietly benefit the Jets while complicating things for the Giants. Plus, Aaron Rodgers' latest playoff exit raises real questions about his future and whether this version of Rodgers can still lift a team when it matters most.

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The Giants get good news out of Green Bay, plus a full recap of perhaps the greatest Wild Card Weekend ever

Wild Card Weekend had everything, including one brutal Packers collapse that had everyone wondering if Matt LaFleur could actually be in trouble. Then Adam Schefter pours water on it with a new contract expectation, and Evan and Tiki connect the dots to the coaching carousel and why John Harbaugh might be the one move that freezes everything else. The guys hit the Sirianni vs AJ Brown sideline blowup, what Philly's loss really means, and why Giants fans can probably relax about certain “new” vacancies. Then they dive into the Bills vs Jaguars finish and the debate that took over sports bars everywhere: kneel at the 1 and bleed clock, or take the touchdown and trust your defense? Plus, the end-of-half officiating mess that almost became the story of the week. Also in Hour 1: why the Jets feel like they're playing a different sport after watching playoff football, what makes the Patriots defense so hard to diagnose, and Tony Romo's all time confusing broadcast moment that had everyone asking, “What game are you watching?”

Hour 2 starts with one of the strangest timing moments you'll hear all season: the Bears are in the middle of an epic home playoff comeback against the Packers when news breaks that the Cubs are stunningly signing Alex Bregman. Evan and Tiki debate how a city even processes a massive baseball move during the biggest football night in years, plus a Barstool meltdown from the Boston side of the deal. Then the calls take over, starting with a deep dive into the modern fourth down obsession and the Jaguars decision to pass up points against Buffalo, especially after being gifted field position. The guys break down why “take the points” still matters in January and how one empty possession can flip a playoff game. The hour also hits the Jets fan reality check after watching real playoff football, the quarterback trade up fantasies, and why one Fernando Mendoza quote might have ended Jets dreams on the spot. Plus: the Liam Cohen press conference moment that has media people furious, a debate on whether a reporter can be supportive, and a round of playoff hot takes including which coaches are easiest and hardest to root for.

Hour 3 opens with the biggest win of Wild Card Weekend: the games were awesome, competitive, and for once the NFL escaped without a single officiating disaster hijacking the conversation. Evan and Tiki love that the storyline stayed on football, and they argue the league feels completely wide open, with guaranteed new blood headed to the Super Bowl. The guys then hit the funniest “info win” from the weekend, including a bizarre baseball stat tied to a Bills defender that somehow becomes a running joke for Buffalo's playoff run. Calls follow on how to combat tanking in the NFL, Buffalo's chances on the road, and why the Bills' path is brutal even if the vibes feel like “this is their year.” Then it turns into full Jets fan pain as Evan lays out the nightmare remaining AFC field, debates what would hurt Jets fans most, and gets pulled into a Justin Herbert discussion: is he overrated or just stuck with no help? The hour also includes Cinco de Luncho ranking the Wild Card games, Yankees anxiety over Cody Bellinger, Mets hopes for Kyle Tucker, and a darkly hilarious Jets Super Bowl timeline that spirals all the way into the distant future.

Evan & Tiki close out the show with a wide-ranging and emotional final hour, headlined by Evan's raw rant on why it's never been more depressing to be a Jets fan. The guys dive into the “LOL Jets” stigma, Davante Adams' unnecessary shade, and whether the franchise is miles behind the rest of the AFC. Plus, a spirited debate on whether fans can (or should) ever abandon their team, stories about long playoff droughts, and why winning after decades of pain just hits different.

After a weekend of playoff football, Evan and Tiki hit the harshest reality for Jets fans. The Patriots look sharp, Drake May is already being talked about like a future MVP, and Josh Allen is still standing in the AFC. The question becomes brutally simple: can the Jets realistically find a quarterback who can go toe to toe with those two in the division? The guys rip into the gap between the Jets and the best coached playoff teams, debate Aaron Glenn's future, and react to a perfectly timed shot from an Amazon Prime pregame clip that sums up the Jets' current reputation. Then the punchline arrives: the Jets announce a futures deal with Bailey Zappe, turning the whole situation into peak “are we being trolled?” energy. It's Jets despair, league wide trolling, and the uncomfortable truth that nothing changes until the Jets start winning.

While Wild Card Weekend dominated the headlines, a major MLB bomb dropped in the background. The New York Yankees are now operating under the assumption that Cody Bellinger could sign elsewhere as contract talks stall over years, not dollars. Evan, Tiki, and Shaun break down the reported standoff with Scott Boras, why the Yankees are refusing to negotiate against themselves, and why this situation feels eerily similar to what the New York Mets dealt with last year. The conversation pivots to potential fallback options, including interest around Kyle Tucker, the realities of short term high AAV deals, and why teams like the Los Angeles Dodgers and Toronto Blue Jays loom large in the background. Plus, a deeper debate on free agency leverage, market reality, and why Yankee fans may want to stay calm as this staring contest plays out.

Cinco de Luncho takes over the booth as Evan, Tiki, and Shaun rank every game from an unforgettable Wild Card Weekend. From the snoozer at the bottom of the list to an epic rivalry comeback at the top, the guys debate what actually makes a playoff game great. Is it the ending, the full three hour ride, the stakes, or the atmosphere? They break down Chargers vs Patriots, 49ers vs Eagles, Bills vs Jaguars, Rams vs Panthers, and the emotional roller coaster between the Packers and Bears. The discussion turns into a full blown argument over best ending versus best overall game, DVR watching versus live chaos, and why some games get punished just for kickoff time or location. Pure sports radio energy, food jokes included, as Cinco de Luncho delivers the definitive Wild Card Weekend rankings.

Wild Card Weekend delivered exactly what fans have been begging for. Close games, real drama, and no officiating controversy stealing the spotlight. Evan and Tiki break down why the biggest win of the weekend was actually talking about football again, not refs or rule debates. They dive into the wide open feel of the NFL, debate the legacies of Josh Allen and Justin Herbert, and explain why this postseason feels different from the dynasty driven years dominated by Kansas City and New England. The conversation shifts to belief and perspective for struggling franchises, including why fans of the New York Giants

With the coaching carousel settling for now, the spotlight unexpectedly shifts to Jacksonville after the Jaguars' playoff loss to Buffalo. A local reporter steps to the mic and skips the question entirely, offering Liam Cohen a heartfelt pep talk instead, and the media world erupts. Evan and Tiki find the moment funny, human, and completely overblown as a controversy. They push back on the outrage from fellow reporters, arguing there's room for empathy as long as the tough questions still get asked, and imagine what the New York version of that moment would sound like if the Jets ever won 13 games. The conversation then spills into the Bills-Jaguars finish, revisiting the score versus kneel debate at the goal line, the fear of false starts and bad snaps, and why trusting your defense still makes sense in today's NFL. Plus, calls on playoff officiating, pocketed flags in January, and a walk down memory lane with Giants fans reliving the most painful postseason losses of their lifetime.

A Bears-Packers playoff comeback is already chaos, then Chicago gets a second shockwave mid-game: news leaks that the Cubs are signing Alex Bregman. Evan and Tiki debate how any fan is supposed to process a blockbuster baseball move during the biggest football moment in years, plus why good news can wait but bad news hijacks your brain instantly. Then the show pivots back to the NFL with a caller hammering the league's new addiction: going for it on fourth down. The guys break down the Jaguars' pivotal decision to pass up points against Buffalo, why it felt even worse after a gifted short field, and how one empty possession can swing a playoff game. From there it turns into full Jets fan therapy. Calls flood in with trade-up fantasies for Fernando Mendoza, reality checks on what it would actually cost, and the clip that sent Jets hopes into a spiral when Mendoza names Tom Brady as his dream dinner guest. Plus: a debate on Ben Johnson's “talking spicy” persona, whether he's hard to root for, and why Sean McVay is the easy choice when likability becomes part of the playoff rooting chart.

Evan and Tiki open the phones on the Giants coaching search, but the conversation quickly pivots to the most entertaining game of Wild Card Weekend: Bills vs Jaguars. After Josh Allen's ridiculous late push, the classic barstool argument erupts at the goal line. Do you take a knee at the 1 and bleed clock, or punch in the touchdown and trust your defense? Evan says it's simple: if you need a touchdown, you take the touchdown, because nothing is guaranteed in the red zone. The crew debates the value of those 30 extra seconds, the risk of giving away a down, and why Buffalo's past “13 seconds” trauma still hangs over every late game decision. Then the calls roll in, including a furious breakdown of a chaotic end of half sequence that nearly handed Jacksonville points and could have changed the entire game if the kick was made. And to top it off, Evan unloads on Tony Romo's bizarre broadcast, from head scratching commentary to a moment where Romo somehow convinced himself a clear Josh Allen touchdown might not count.

The Packers melt down in an all time ugly loss to the Bears, and for a minute it feels like Matt LaFleur could actually be in trouble. Then Adam Schefter drops the update: Green Bay expects a new deal, and the conversation flips from “fire him” to “what if the contract talks get weird?” From there, Evan and Tiki zoom out to the Giants' view of Wild Card Weekend and why it didn't create any scary new openings. The real issue is the same one it's been: the entire coaching market is basically stuck until John Harbaugh makes his move, with teams like the Giants and Browns convinced they have a shot. They debate the reported Harbaugh price tag, why the top coach available is going to push for top dollar, and how LaFleur's postseason résumé has taken hits despite regular season success. Plus: Schefter's “Packers connection” to Harbaugh, why it's interesting but not needle moving, and what would actually make Green Bay a real threat if a vacancy somehow opened up.

Boomer & Gio on why the Oregon-Indiana College Football Playoff semifinal could shed more light on the Jets' quarterback future. Plus, Craig Carton sounds off on Aaron Glenn's arrogance (9:43); Carton and C-Mac also take calls on the Jets and discuss Breece Hall's future (29:45); Evan Roberts and Shaun Morash listen to Glenn and GM Darren Mougey and react to their answers (45:41)

Craig Carton warns Giants fans not to crown John Harbaugh as the next head coach just yet. Plus, Boomer & Gio raise the possibility of the Eagles or Bills pursuing Harbaugh (22:57); Evan Roberts and Shaun Morash discuss the risks of going all in on Harbaugh and other coaches who could emerge (33:07); Tiki Barber argues he'd rather have Kevin Stefanski over Harbaugh (52:57); Craig and C-Mac on Stefanski sighting in New Jersey (1:10:00); Gio makes the case for Stefanski prior to Harbaugh news (1:25:20)

This week's highlights include James Dolan in studio with Craig Carton and Chris McMonigle to talk all things Knicks and Rangers, while MLB commissioner Rob Manfred also paid them a visit. Plus, Blueshirts legend Mark Messier in studio with Boomer and Gio, and Joe Benigno joined Evan and Tiki for a classic Jets rant.

This week's Knicks highlights include James Dolan's extensive in-studio interview with Craig Carton and Chris McMonigle, and the guys reacting to the interview and Dolan's expectations for this team. Plus, both Evan Roberts and Tommy Lugauer don't think there should be much concern with the team's recently-halted four-game losing streak.

Craig Carton shares breaking news that John Harbaugh is now available on the coaching market, much to the delight of C-Mac. Plus, SNY's Connor Hughes delivers the latest on the Giants pursuit of Harbaugh (17:33); Evan & Tiki analyze Harbaugh's playoff resume and hear from callers (39:31); Boomer & Gio on what Harbaugh needs to hear from the Giants front office (58:28), and what his staff could look like (1:15:11); Craig and C-Mac on what Giants need to do to secure Harbaugh (1:30:21).

The Dolphins make a GM decision that eases Giants fans worries, plus a Football Friday playoff edition with all the trimmings.

The Giants coaching search hits a fever pitch as the show debates why it suddenly feels like John Harbaugh is the one hire that changes everything, and why missing out could trigger a full fan meltdown. Evan and Tiki break down the Dolphins GM curveball, what it means for Harbaugh's options, and why Kevin Stefanski is still a real long-term alternative. Plus, Giants fans call in on ownership, Joe Schoen's role in the search, wild record predictions for next season, and the viral Jaxson Dart lip-reading moment that has everyone trying to decode the future.

Hour 2 starts with the mystery of Evan's pre-recorded question for MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred that never made air, and the behind-the-scenes explanation from Craig Carton on why it got spiked. The guys finally reveal the question, argue whether it was fair or “too much,” and debate Manfred's obsession with a salary cap and the financial gap between big and small markets. Then the conversation turns into full MLB confusion as Manfred talks realignment, geography, and keeping the Mets and Yankees separate, and nobody can quite agree on what he actually meant. Calls roll in to interpret it, while Evan vents about owners crying “unable” instead of “unwilling” to spend. Plus, the show pivots to Wild Card weekend storylines, including how often teams win rematches, and a fun deep dive into Tiki Barber's playoff games where he faced an opponent for the third time in the same season. The hour also touches on the Giants coaching search optics, Evan's choice between banishing Woody Johnson or Rob Manfred, and a Yankees offseason debate about Cody Bellinger's market and whether Brian Cashman should pivot to Bo Bichette.

It's Wild Card Weekend, so we're playing the most dangerous game: who are we selfishly rooting for and why. The guys go matchup by matchup with Jets and Giants agendas all over the place, from hoping Carolina creates Bryce Young doubt (hello, Jets QB options) to rooting for pure chaos in Bears-Packers if it means more coaching openings. They also hit Bills-Jaguars, Eagles-Niners (and the John Harbaugh fear factor), plus the Patriots as the ultimate “please lose” postseason villain. Then it turns into full New York sports radio perfection: Cinco de Luncho takes over, Evan's brain gets exposed, and the crew reacts to the Saquon Barkley billboard shot at Giants fans on I-95. Hour 3 also dips into Knicks/Wizards draft-pick drama, Giants coordinator continuity talk (Kafka, Dart development), and a college QB watch that turns tonight's game into a Jets scouting mission. Key moments: rooting-interest power rankings, Giants coaching search circus, Saquon billboard outrage, Cinco de Luncho, and the phones lighting up with callers.

Hour 4: Could Trinidad Chambliss be the Next Jets QB? WFAN Jeopardy Controversy

The Mets choose not to hold FanFest, and the optics could not be worse. The guys break down why skipping a fan event makes the organization look scared of its own fans, especially when there is nothing new to celebrate. Outside of modest moves, nothing about this roster feels better than it did months ago, and fans can feel it. The conversation then pivots to the New York football picture, including Antonio Pierce emerging as a legitimate sleeper candidate in the New York Giants head coaching search if it is not John Harbaugh or Kevin Stefanski. From there, the show spirals into classic chaos, Cinco de Lunch energy, Wild Card Weekend rankings, draft obsession, quarterback scouting madness, and the brutal reality that most fans watch sports through selfish rooting interests. It is part Mets frustration, part Giants coaching intrigue, and part unhinged Friday sports radio at its finest, with food debates, cheese takes, and playoff chaos layered on top.

The guys kick off Wild Card Weekend by laying out their “selfish rooting interest” list, where Jets bitterness, Giants coaching paranoia, and pure chaos all collide. It starts with Rams-Panthers and a very specific agenda: hope Carolina's Bryce Young doubt grows just enough to create more QB options for the Jets, while also keeping the Panthers from becoming a real future threat. Then it turns into Bears-Packers, where personal grudges (Ben Johnson), weather talk, and the dream of a coaching-search circus take center stage. If the Packers lose, does it crack open another job and send the league into full-blown coach chaos? That's the debate. They hit Bills-Jaguars with the “maximum pain” theory for Buffalo fans, plus the Harbaugh ripple effects in Eagles-Niners, before the segment swerves into the Saquon billboard drama that feels like a direct shot at Giants fans. The back half includes Knicks-Wizards draft-pick paranoia, Giants OC continuity talk (Kafka and the Dart development angle), and a mini debate on why you can't blindly trust AI without fact-checking.

Evan explains how he was promised a chance to ask Rob Manfred a question on the air, only to have it pulled at the last second for being “too disrespectful.” The show finally reveals the question about a salary cap, debates whether it crossed the line, and argues if it would have forced a real answer from the commissioner. Craig Carton explains why it never aired, while Tiki Barber compares his version of a Manfred question to how it was actually asked on the show. The segment then spirals into total confusion when Manfred discusses MLB realignment, geography, and keeping the New York Yankees and New York Mets out of the same division. Evan and Tiki try to decode what he actually meant, whether MLB is moving toward an East vs West conference model, and why the explanation left more questions than answers. The segment wraps with listener calls, World Baseball Classic timing debates, and breaking news that Ketel Marte is not being traded after weeks of rumors.

Evan takes the unpopular stance with Jets fans: you can't fire Aaron Glenn after one season just to take a blind swing at John Harbaugh, especially when Harbaugh isn't committing to anybody and might even consider taking a year off. That's why Schefter's reporting matters, and why the Dolphins were able to play it differently since they were already on the fence with Mike McDaniel. The conversation then flips back to the Giants, where the urgency is real, the fan base is locked onto one name, and the stakes feel enormous if ownership can't close the deal. Calls roll in on whether Mara and Tisch need to directly recruit Harbaugh, what Joe Schoen's role really is, and why being “Harbaugh or bust” might be unfair, but also totally inevitable.

The Giants coaching search has reached the point where it feels like one name is towering over everyone else: John Harbaugh. Evan explains why this has become a “massive disappointment” situation if the Giants don't land him, even if the replacement is a proven coach like Kevin Stefanski or Mike McCarthy. Tiki pushes back with a reality check: Harbaugh could want a break, he might not want a rebuild, and nothing is guaranteed. The big question becomes simple: are Giants fans being reasonable… or is this officially turning into Harbaugh or heartbreak?