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How the slowing down of ships shows Trump's first 100 days are not going to plan? Will Mark Carney's Canadian election forge a ‘coalition of the economically willing'? Is the UK more vulnerable to cyber attacks than other countries? Robert and Steph discuss Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhanger.com Visit: http://monzo.com/therestismoney Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Why does the UK have the most expensive energy in the world? Should the places that generate the cheapest energy get the lowest prices? Should the rich pay more for their power? Robert and Steph talk to Jonathan Brearley, the CEO of the UK's energy regulator, OFGEM. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Visit: monzo.com/therestismoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Why has Trump changed his mind about firing the head of America's central bank? Why has he also backed down on China trade tariffs? And while Rachel Reeves tries to woo Washington this week, are more UK tax rises in Autumn inevitable? Catching up on the latest data on borrowing and growth, Steph and Robert tell you what you need to know. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Visit: monzo.com/therestismoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Why do poor people in the South live longer than Northerners in similar deprivation? How do we fix health inequality? What can businesses do to help? Steph is joined by Sir Michael Marmot, professor of Epidemiology, to discuss why all policy decisions need to focus on health equity. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Visit: monzo.com/therestismoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Influential economist Jim O'Neill tells Steph and Robert why a trade deal with the EU is more important to the UK then one with Trump, that it would be foolish to cut off trade and economic links with China, and how the government has to be more ambitions with its UK investments. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Visit: monzo.com/therestismoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph discuss Trump's latest play to put tariffs on rare earth minerals, alongside the indefinite restrictions he's put on Nvidia sending their H20 chips to China, in the latest acts of self-harm for America. Also, is the UK's path to net zero undermining the competitiveness of British industry? And why does the UK government continue to refuse to invest in Great British growth prospects? Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Visit: monzo.com/therestismoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert explains how Trump is helping China and the EU while hurting America, what Trump's dogma shares with the economically disastrous Soviet Union and how the US is on track for financial and fiscal Armageddon. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Visit: monzo.com/therestismoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert explains how the government's decision to save British Steel is a massive change to its industrial policy, and a response to Trump, how the latest in Trump's tariff U-turns just sows more confusion and why investors need to be more patriotic as the global economy is reconstructed. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Visit: www.monzo.com/therestismoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

President Trump believes a trade war with America's biggest supplier and massive creditor, China, will be more damaging for China than for America. Steph and Robert think he may be dangerously wrong. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Vist: monzo.com/business-banking goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Is this America's Brexit? Robert and Steph explain why Trump's pause on the more extreme tariffs isn't a return to free trade and why the economic war between China and the US is like a nuclear one. Will anyone benefit or is it all bad news? Could the UK be in for cheaper prices? One big uncertainty is what Trump plans for the big drug companies. Steph and Robert dive in. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Visit: monzo.com/business-banking Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What are the similarities between the current economic crisis and the ‘Lehman Weekend'? Will global investors soon start dumping the dollar? Robert and Steph discuss. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Visit https://monzo.com/business-banking Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How long till markets stabilise? How crazy is Trump's formula for calculating tariffs? What are the big dangers that lie ahead? Robert and Steph tell you what you need to know about Trump's market mayhem. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Visit https://monzo.com/business-banking Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph and Robert speak to Zia Yusuf, Chairman of Reform UK to discuss his controversial role as a British Muslim running an anti-immigration party, why he won't rule out merging with the Tories and whether Reform actually have some serious economic plans for the country. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph and Robert speak to Richard Hughes, head of the Office for Budget Responsibility, who has run scenarios on what will happen to the economy as Donald Trump imposes tariffs and the world responds. He also discusses whether the OBR has too much influence over government and stultifies growth, and how Rachel Reeves' fiscal “headroom” may be wiped out again very shortly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph sit down with Shadow Chancellor Mel Stride to hear which taxes he would reform, his fears that young people aren't entrepreneurial enough, how the Conservative Party is repositioning itself in opposition, and how he blagged his way to create his first business. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell, Harry Swan Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Fresh off the back of the Spring Statement, the Chancellor sits down with Robert and Steph to talk growth, jobs, welfare and why the government will not cave to pressure from the US on tech taxes. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert is joined by serial entrepreneur and president of the British Chambers of Commerce Martha Lane Fox. They discuss why it is so hard for all-female businesses to attract funding, why she struggled to acknowledge her disability after a devastating accident, how work helped her recovery and the continued pernicious impact of Brexit on smaller companies Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@goalhanger.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney Assistant Producers: India Dunkley and Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph discuss the welfare conundrum - how do you get more people into work when many businesses are not equipped or incentivised to provide the jobs? And is part of the problem an over-medicalisation of life's ups and downs? Plus, how can we better prepare the next generation for the world of work? Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Visit monzo.com/business-banking Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert is back with Andy Haldane, looking ahead to the Spring Statement, and discussing proposed welfare reform. But are these changes really about helping people back into work, or brutal cost saving measures? Will they come with a sufficient skills package? And how can the government best help to lift people out of precarious, low-skilled jobs to give them, and the economy, the best chance of thriving? Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producers: India Dunkley and Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert is joined by Andy Haldane, Chief Executive of the Royal Society of Arts and former chief economist at the Bank of England, to evaluate whether Trump will push the US and global economy to the bring of crisis, whether European and UK leaders will rise to the challenge and revitalise our continent, and whether re-armament is a compelling industrial strategy. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week Steph and Robert speak to Reid Hoffman, the co-founder of LinkedIn and an early investor in tech giants like Facebook and OpenAI. Reid gives us his take on Musk's government efficiency drive, and considers whether a country can be run like a business. How can governments balance innovation and regulation? And, how can AI give us superpowers to tackle things like climate change and job market instability? Visit monzo.com/business-banking Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph catch up after another gruelling week of Trump's “America-first” agenda. They question the thinking behind his tariffs, and predict who will really pay the price for them. With cautious optimism, the pair also consider whether or not the UK and Europe could pull together to regenerate their economies and their militaries. Is Trump the shock that could reverse decades of European decline? Discover the Vanguard Managed ISA today! Visit https://www.vanguardinvestor.co.uk/investing-explained/stocks-shares-isa/we-do-it-for-you Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert returns from his trip to the US with the PM, to the mayhem of the collapse of relations between Trump And Zelenskyy. He and Steph assess the significance of Trump withdrawing support from Kiev. They also look at whether US/UK trade deals are on the cards, whether Starmer's decision to slash aid to fund defence makes sense, and whether King Charles has just proved he is value for our money. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Despite being called a dictator by Trump, President Zelensky has agreed a deal that would see the US make billions from Ukraine's minerals. Steph catches up with The Rest Is Politics' Alastair Campbell as they ponder how the deal might play out. Plus the impact of Musk's meddling on geopolitics and what Starmer needs to be doing and saying to Trump in their pivotal meeting this week. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph speak with Michael Tory about the underperformance of the UK stock market compared to other countries, and why this has done so much damage to all our living standards. They discuss whether the government is doing enough to compel or encourage the funds that manage our money to invest in UK businesses Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley + Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph discuss why inflation won't disappear but is no worse than feared, how AI is both replacing humans and making some more productive according to Anthropic's new data and what's really motivating Trump in his rapprochement with Putin. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph find out how AI will radically change how people will shop in the future. Retail consultant Kate Ancketill explains how every cursor movement and click is being analysed to provide retailers with ways to predict, and therefore manipulate, how we buy. All that plus we chat about the role of AI assistants, celeb avatars, and how retailers are tackling theft and low consumer confidence. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As Musk continues his hostile takeover of the US government, Robert and Steph look at the impact his dramatic overhaul is having. It sounds like chaos but could it pave the way for a more radical approach to public finances in the UK? Plus we discuss what Musk wants from OpenAI. And whether all this drama will end with a spectacular Trump/Musk fallout. Or have they both got too much to lose? Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph catch up after a dramatic week of Trump's trade tariffs and consider their ripple effects across the globe. Will consumers pay the price for an "America-first agenda"? And, is there any genius in Trump sowing economic uncertainty? Also, will the Bank of England's “careful and gradual” approach to cutting interest rates to 4.5%, go far enough?   Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph and Robert are joined by Praful Nargund, founder of the Good Growth Foundation, and Chris Curtis, MP for Milton Keynes North, to speak about Rachel Reeves's growth targets. They consider what growth actually means to everyday people, whether it's felt evenly, or if Labour should be prioritising something else altogether. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph and Gordon Corera, host of The Rest Is Classified and the BBC's Security Correspondent, discuss the security risks posed to the UK by Rachel Reeves' new ploy to secure Chinese investment. Also, how Huawei was replaced by Tik Tok, and then DeepSeek, as the latest digital threat to the West and why an era of subtle ‘cognitive warfare' has been ushered in by social media. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph and Gordon Corera, host of The Rest Is Classified and the BBC's Security Correspondent, discuss the security risks posed to the UK by Rachel Reeves' new ploy to secure Chinese investment. Also, how Huawei was replaced by Tik Tok, and then DeepSeek, as the latest digital threat to the West and why an era of subtle ‘cognitive warfare' has been ushered in by social media. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph catch up after Rachel Reeves' attempt to bring back confidence in the UK economy. With plans for a third runway at Heathrow, a corridor of investment between Cambridge and Oxford as well as money for projects in places like Manchester and Wrexham, we discuss the pros and cons. And for a change it's Steph who takes on the role of Eeyore. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph and Robert catch up on Trump's first week back in office. Looking at the likely economic impact of his decisions on mass deportation, the environment, energy and prices. As well as what wasn't said on things like trade tariffs with China. Plus with Rachel Reeves hoping to convince us she's got a plan for growth this week, we discuss whether a third runaway at Heathrow is going to cut it. And why we're in an ugly competition. Good news though: we're not the ugliest. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph and Robert speak to Sir Paul Nurse - Nobel Prize winning cell biologist and Director of the Francis Crick Institute - about how science funding needs to change, why the UK is failing to lure global talent, how we scrub up against the other OECD countries in terms of research and development and how - despite being a geneticist - it took him 55 years to discover who his biological parents were. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell, Evan Green Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The founder of the OBR and now boss of all official statistics Robert Chote explains to Steph and Robert why the UK's unemployment numbers are so unreliable and why the chancellor should be braver and not obsessively try to meet her fiscal rules at all times. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: https://opinion.askattest.com/EWJ34 Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph are joined by Peter Kyle, the Science and Tech Secretary of State, to evaluate whether the prime minister's plan to turn the UK into an AI world leader, while simultaneously modernising public services and making us richer, has any chance of succeeding. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: https://opinion.askattest.com/EWJ34 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph and Robert are joined by Dr Gerard Lyons, an influential economist and Bank of China board member, to discuss whether Rachel Reeves is wise to ask China to invest in the UK, whether the Chancellor will need to come back for more tax rises later this year and what he really advised Liz Truss to do. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert gives us his take on 'Starmer vs Musk' and Steph tells us why she thinks business rates are going to be a big problem this year. There's also a discussion about misunderstood concepts in economics, first up: GDP. Plus we catch-up on the exciting post Steph and Robert received over Christmas. A clue: it involves a Clinton and a Truss. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Karen Ward, Chief Market Strategist for one of the leading financial institutions in the world, JP Morgan Asset Management, talks to Robert and Steph about how Starmer can restore investors' confidence, why she worries that the surge in the Magnificent 7 huge tech stocks is over, how AI can make most of us better off and whether Trump will be less radical than his rhetoric. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Hannah Rashbass, Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph and Robert explain why 2025 will be the most important year of our lives, and assess whether it will be a terrible or great year.  It is all about the unraveling of globalization and the proliferation of wars. One word nutshells the world on a fulcrum: Trump. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Becki Hills Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Why are so many low income families living in the kind of slum conditions that would have shamed the Victorians? And why are so many of these slums in social and council properties? Robert and Steph look for explanations and solutions, and ask whether Labour's promise to build 1.5m homes will help, in a conversation with ITV's award-winning investigations editor Dan Hewitt. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Hannah Rashbass Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph and Robert reflect on some of The Rest Is Money's big insights from 2024, including why governments should focus on improving our happiness rather than our incomes and why Labour's biggest mistake was to ignore the black hole in the public finances before the election. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Hannah Rashbass Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph answer your questions including whether we are heading inexorably towards another financial crisis and whether the UK might be more prosperous if the National Health Service were privatised. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Hannah Rashbass Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Google is making huge bets on artificial intelligence and quantum computing. It is reinventing how millions of us work and live. But in the process is it also eating its own lunch, destroying the search business that turned it into one of the world's most valuable companies? Steph and Robert put all this and more to Matt Brittin, Google's most powerful European executive, as he prepares to step down and quit Google after 17 years. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph talk to Sir Bill Browder about making billions after the fall of the Soviet Union, only to end up with a target from Putin on his back. This is a story of murder and corruption leading him into his life's work persuading governments to hit human rights abusers where it hurts. The threat of Putin's revenge is ever present and Bill's stories include the time he was bundled into a car by Spanish police fearing for his life. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Hannah Rashbass Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph and Robert are joined by Sir Bill Browder, political activist and co-founder of Hermitage Capital Management, formerly the largest foreign portfolio investor in Russia, to discuss how using Russia's frozen assets against them could help Kiev win the war, why Putin won't take a Trump peace deal and why the toppling of the Assad regime may only prolong the war in Ukraine. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Hannah Rashbass Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph speak to Paul Johnson, Director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, about whether Labour can fix our creaking public services in next years spending review, if it's realistic that Wes Streeting will ‘reform' the NHS and why vital data on the UK jobs market is so poor. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steph and Robert discuss what the collapse of the French government and other unfolding global crises mean for the UK, why Keir Starmer does need to choose between the EU and the US and how businesses are using Labour veterans to lobby the government. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Robert and Steph answer your questions including why Rachel Reeves chose to raise national insurance on businesses instead of simply putting up corporation tax and how much harm leaving the single market has cost Britain since 2016. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

General Secretary of the Trade Union Congress, Paul Nowak joins Steph and Robert to discuss whether the new Employment Rights Bill, the reforms to ‘Get Britain Working' and the changes to National Insurance are good for workers but bad for business. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@gmail.com X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices