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NJ Pesci and Greg Pesci are two brothers with more than 50 years of experience between them working to build and grow teams in some of the best-known global organizations. As lifelong sports fans, they’re now taking their business expertise and applying it to their biggest passion. With special guests and inspiring segments, the Pesci brothers will remind us that It’s Never Just a Game.

NJ Pesci and Greg Pesci


    • Sep 13, 2021 LATEST EPISODE
    • weekly NEW EPISODES
    • 55m AVG DURATION
    • 74 EPISODES

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    Bold Square Co-Founder and Managing Partner - Dylan Jones

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2021 71:07


    Listen as Dylan talks about seeing an opportunity to fill a need and stepping up to meet that challenge with his firm, Bold Square.  Dylan shares the lessons he learned over the course of his international career and emphasizes the importance of developing relationships of trust with his clients.  Then Mike in Middle America makes an appearance and the talk turns to BYU, the Big 12 and rivalry games for both BYU and Iowa State.


    Time Is The One Thing You Should Never Waste

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2021 54:56

    The Pesci brothers talk about precious time and not wasting any of it with negativity.  Why spend your life “mining” for negativity, where is the joy in that?  Appreciate what time you have and spend that time on the things you love.  College football is back, and it feels great to see all of the fans celebrating the game and the teams they love.

    The Pesci brothers get caught up on sports; NFL, MLB, Football, Tennis and Golf news, talking vacation stories and world events

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2021 32:38

    Zach Wilson looks good in pre-season, Taysom does not!  The Yankees are moving in the right direction and BYU Football begins this week in Vegas against Arizona.  Update on some golf and then looking at the top earners in Men's Tennis (Johnny Mc is number 54 on the list).  Try to keep things in your life in perspective.  With Ida and all that is happening in Afghanistan, who wins a football game or is named the starting QB doesn't really mean that much.  Enjoy all of the things you love and be grateful for each day.

    Startups, Raising Cash, Creating an MVP, Enterprise Valuation

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2021 42:01

    NJ and Greg talk about some of the things you need to do when you raise money for a startup.  Having an idea and a business plan might not be enough to raise the money you need.  You will need a Minimum Viable Product (MVP) and some customers using your product or service first. In addition, how do you differentiate your product or service enough to convince investors to take a chance on you and your idea? After all of that, you have to put a value on your company or idea, and that requires a great deal of research, and in the end, it's just your best guess at the time.  Zach Wilson and the Yankees have a good week!

    Nu Skin Enterprises President and CEO-elect, Ryan Napierski

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 16, 2021 69:39

    The Pesci brothers enjoy another conversation with an old friend.  Listen in as Nu Skin Enterprises President and CEO-elect, Ryan Napierski, shares the story of his Nu Skin career.  From working for Nu Skin while going to college, to becoming the next CEO.  Once again it is a story that takes unexpected turns and Ryan is living example of stepping up to the challenge and making the best of every situation.  You'll hear how Ryan's experiences have prepared him for what he is about to do next.Then the brothers talk about Name, Image, and Likeness in college sports and how a Utah company, Built Bar, just paid tuition for all walk-on football players at BYU!And finally, it is music time again.  Great story about stepping off and taking risks.

    Goal Setting and What Motivates Us All

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2021 56:44

    Listen in as the brothers talk about goal setting and the most common motivators for all of us.  These are five important factors according to one famous theory on goal setting:1.Clarity.2.Challenge.3.Commitment.4.Feedback.5.Task complexity.After the discussion on goal setting, NJ and Greg talk about the three things McClelland says motivate us all and how the brothers think they apply to them.  They are the:1.Need for Achievement2.Need for Affiliation3.Need for Power   

    Looking To The Past To Try And Predict The Future

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2021 42:08

    Greg and NJ share a process they have used with organizations to help them predict the future based on past events and the magnitude of change that occurs over time.  The Brothers use sports as the framework for this discussion, focusing on the Olympics and Simone Biles, the Green Bay Packer's QB Aaron Rodgers and finally, some of the commercials that are airing now on the networks covering the Olympics.  How would the events of today be seen or accepted 20 years ago in sports?  Twenty years ago, did you ever think you would see a commercial that never shows or talks about a product?  What does today's reaction tell you about the future?And, as a bonus, some tips on sneaking Oreo cookies late at night…..

    Bet On Yourself, Or No One Else Will

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2021 50:45

    NJ and Greg discuss the importance of having enough confidence in yourself to bet on yourself, in what ever you do.  It's not just about leaving your job and working for yourself.  It is about knowing that, in the end, you have to live with yourself, so believe in you, and bet on yourself in all aspects of your life.  People who bet on themselves do the following:1.They remove the illusion of job security2.Take calculated risks to pursue opportunities 3.Raise the performance standard in all areas of their lives4.See opportunities everywhere5.Develop a close relationship with the truthThen the brothers talk the business of college football with Texas and Oklahoma threatening to move from the Big 12 to the SEC.  Listen in as the rich plan on getting richer in college football.  A super league…….?

    Loss Aversion - Losses Loom Larger Than Gains In Our Brains

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2021 50:48

    The Pesci brothers start the show with the sport's desk.  They cover; Euro 2021, Wimbledon, Formula 1, and Baseball. And then the conversation shifts to concerts, money made on the road and finally, what special request would you have for the green room if you were a star?As a follow up to last week's discussion on risk, the brothers talk about “Loss Aversion” and how we look at risk and why losses scare us from making gains.  A fun story about country music follows that, as an example of loss aversion and what the music world would have missed, if one singer-songwriter never took a risk.Send us an email at nj@itsneverjustagame.comFollow us and subscribe!

    Risk Taking, Why Are We So Afraid Of It?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 12, 2021 46:13


    NJ and Greg use the hot real estate market to illustrate risk taking and how we talk ourselves out of taking risks all the time.  If you had the chance to sell your house right now for a huge profit, would you do it, or would you come up with all the reasons you can't take that risk?  Just say yes and figure out the how later.  Then the brothers talk about Name, Image and Likeness and how revenue athletes are already cashing in on the deal.  Finally, they cover John McEnroe, Serena Williams, cancel culture and the reasons they believe Archie Bunker and David Brent, were created.Please subscribe and leave a review!


    Sara Lee Frozen Bakery CEO Craig Bahner

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 5, 2021 72:58

    Sara Lee Frozen Bakery CEO, Craig Bahner, talks with the Pesci brothers about his career, the lessons he has learned, and the challenge he faces in his life today.  It was an insightful conversation with great honesty and humility.  Craig clearly understands that what you do is not as important as how you do it.  The way you treat people is significantly more important than technical competence.  Listen as Craig shares the details of a health challenge he is facing today.Then the brothers talk about the Supreme Court ruling that allows college athletes to make money on their Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL).  The endorsements have already begun and the brothers wonder how this will all play out.  Listen as they discuss the possibilities.  

    Authors Richie Norton & Dr. Benjamin Hardy Share Their Positive Approach To Life and Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2021 64:08

    NJ and Greg have two guests on this week.  Richie Norton (a return guest) and Dr. Benjamin Hardy.  Both accomplished authors, speakers, and incredibly positive people.  Listen as they talk about ways to take control of your life and your situation.  You can't wait around for things to happen; you have to see it as if you've already accomplished it and then make it happen.  Great conversation with two people that motivate you without even trying!   Then the brothers have a therapy session on why they haven't published books yet, and how they're getting closer. Please hit the subscribe button and please write a review on Apple Podcast and Spotify!Send an email with your thoughts about the show and suggestions for the show to nj@itsneverjustagame.comFollow us and leave comments on Instagram, Facebook and TwitterInstagram @ItsneverjustagameofficialTwitter @INJAGOfficialFacebook ItsNeverJustaGame

    Carine Clark - General Partner at Pelion Venture Partners

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 21, 2021 69:21

    Greg and NJ talk with Carine Clark, General Partner at Pelion Venture Partners.  Carine is a three-time president and CEO of high-growth tech companies, specializing in helping companies scale from $10 million to $100 million and more.  Listen as she shares her business and life experiences that speak to focus, determination, and perseverance.  Carine has excelled in both high tech and venture and has been a pioneer and example for women in both these fields.  In addition, she shares her experience as a cancer survivor and shows us all how to face adversity with strength and hope.  The brothers finish with some cover songs that include country, the 70's and an interesting twist.  

    The Business of College Athletics - Part Two of a Two Part Series

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2021 58:07

    Billions of dollars in revenue are generated every year in colleges sports, with college football leading the way.  In part two of this series, NJ and Greg look at how many universities actually make money on college athletics. Then, the discussion turns to paying college athletes, how would you do it?  The brothers bring Mike in Middle America back into the conversation as they discuss; paying all athletes, paying the revenue generating athletes, paying just the best athletes, paying for name likeness and image and the possibility of letting agents pay the athletes before they turn pro. 

    The Business of College Athletics - Part One of a Two Part Series

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2021 60:20

    Billions of dollars in revenue are generated every year in college sports, with college football leading the pack.  Greg and NJ look at the top earning college football programs and talk about pay for student athletes.  They bring Mike in Middle America into the conversation as they discuss the value of athletic scholarships and ask if that is enough compensation or should more be done.  And to make it more interesting, two bills have been introduced in Congress to allow student athletes to form a union and collectively bargain for compensation.  It's O-V-A, OVA is back!  AJ talks about the Yankees and the Pats with a few funny thoughts, and then he just hangs up! 

    Logitech President and CEO Bracken Darrell

    Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2021 58:27

    NJ and Greg talk with Logitech President and CEO, Bracken Darrell, about Logitech doubling down and making some big bets at the start of the pandemic and how those big bets paid off. Bracken shares some of the great things they are doing at Logitech including a successful focus on gaming, and how they are in a strong position coming out of the pandemic.  Bracken is a wonderful storyteller and his story about a meeting he was in with GE CEO Jack Welch is a classic!  Listen as Bracken talks about his career journey and how the tough spots are where you learn the most.  Then the brothers finish the episode with their thoughts on the Yankees, the NBA and Memorial Day.  Happy Memorial Day to everyone and thanks to all those that served and those that made the ultimate sacrifice for all of us.

    Overstock.com CEO Jonathan Johnson

    Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2021 53:00

    Greg and NJ talk with Overstock.com CEO Jonathan Johnson about his company's incredible growth during Covid, his career, and how important it is to share leadership while focusing resources against the most important priorities. Listen for great insights around clarity of purpose, developing skills and being willing to stretch and learn.  Then the brothers move to sports and talk about no-hitters in baseball, how the shift contributes to the lack of offense and finally a mention of the NBA to make one of our listeners happy!

    Alix Baudin, President, COO and CO-Founder at Will Packer Media

    Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2021 55:51

    NJ and Greg talk with Alix Baudin about the work and mission of Will Packer media.  Alix shares his career path. It is a wonderful example of building on skills and experiences that will enable you to run any business.  Alix talks about the differences between working in big companies and entrepreneurial ones, how you can move from computer science to finance to media if you are willing to put in the work and be humble enough to admit what you don't know.  

    The Imposter Syndrome, How Do You Know If You Have It?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2021 50:12

    Greg and NJ start the show with sports, Zach is a Jet getting $35million guaranteed, the Spanish Grand Prix leads to a conversation about sustainability and farm to table.  Then the brothers move to a discussion about The Imposter Syndrome and how it impacts 70% or more of high achievers.  There are 5 Imposter Syndrome types. 1. The Perfectionist 2. Superwoman/Superman 3. The Natural Genius 4. The Soloist  5. The Expert. Listen for stories that might help you see if the Imposter Syndrome is impacting you.  And finally, it's music time and the brothers share a number of cover songs that were bigger hits for the band that covered them then they were for the original artist.  Thanks for listening and take a moment to subscribe to the podcast. 

    Athletes and Entrepreneurs, How and Why They Keep Winning

    Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2021 41:18

    NJ and Greg cover the draft and then get into a discussion about the characteristics Professional Athletes and Entrepreneurs have in common.  Zach Wilson is taken second overall and BYU has 5 players taken in this year's draft.  Then we get into the differences between being an Athlete that endorses products and one that starts a business outside of the sport he/she plays. MJ blew it all up in 1984 and the endorsement numbers continue to grow and grow.  Pro Athletes and Entrepreneurs have the following things in common; success driven, not afraid to fail, count on a team to make it work, competition motivates them and they learn, learn, learn.  

    Did You Get That Promotion At Work? Thoughts And Advice For Anyone Hoping To Get Promoted At Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2021 38:20

    Greg and NJ start with sports hot topics; the rise and immediate fall of The Super League, the upcoming NFL Draft, Zach Wilson, and how he is now Collin Cowherd's new punching bag (does that mean he will finally let Baker Mayfield up?) Then we go into the heart of the episode and talk about what it's like trying to get promoted at work. And yes, we are a little cynical about all of it.  Listen for the things you need to know and do in order to get promoted.  Watch out for new hoops being added to jump through and moving goal lines all designed to keep you from that next level.  Subjugation in return for safety, not a good equation.

    CBS NFL Analyst, Charles Davis, Talks the Upcoming NFL Draft, QBs & More

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 19, 2021 63:00


    Season 2 Episode 1 opens just like last season, with CBS NFL Analyst Charles Davis sharing his incredible insights on the NFL draft.  The Pesci brothers wanted to focus on QBs and BYU'S Zach Wilson in particular.  Charles gives his honest opinion and shares some surprises you need to look for in the upcoming draft.  Then NJ and Greg talk about the challenges young NFL QBs face trying to lead a group of veterans.


    R-Zero President and Co-Founder, Eli Harris

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 12, 2021 60:20

    R-Zero President and Co-Founder, Eli Harris, talks about R-Zero's mission to create a new standard for disinfection and making the world a safer place for everyone.  In addition to the fantastic work R-Zero is doing, listen to Eli's life story and how when one door closes another one opens.  His story goes from college soccer to Fulbright scholarships in China, to start-ups and raising capital all before he turns 28!  Interview starts at 16:30

    OneSight President & Executive Director - K-T Overbey

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2021 54:20

    OneSight President & Executive Director, K-T Overbey, talks about the company's life-changing work and how she made choices in her life to focus on what was most important. OneSight is the independent nonprofit with the solutions, people and resources to eradicate the vision care crisis for good. They have impacted over 37 million people in 53 countries and counting. Listen in as K-T discusses how being thoughtful and taking your time can put you in the right spot at the right time to do what you really love. Plus the brothers talk about the importance of unity and why we need more of it, especially now.

    The Gem Shopping Network CEO - Eduardo Hauser

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 29, 2021 50:30

    The Pesci Brothers talk with The Gem Shopping Network CEO, Eduardo Hauser about “forks in the road” and the unexpected. Eduardo discusses how each of these unexpected moments enriched his career, preparing him for his present role as CEO.  Plus, the Brothers remind us to find joy in something everyday. Go and do something for yourself, think about hope and actively move forward toward that hope, even if it is a small thing.

    Legends of Learning Co-Founder - Josh Goldberg

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2021 44:02

    Serial entrepreneur, Josh Goldberg, talks about his journey from a career in law, to starting up companies, raising capital, building companies, selling them, and then starting it all over again!

    Salary Transparency, Is That How We Get To Equity? Should You Know What Your Colleagues Are Being Paid & Should They Know What You Are Paid?

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2021 41:04


    Greg and NJ discuss jobs, like pro sports and government jobs where your salary is public, and then the private sector where it is kept, private. Do we all have to know what each other is making to achieve equity? Do you really believe that everyone's contributions, while important, are equal? Free agents aren't really free with the all powerful Franchise Tag. Tom Brady restructures his deal but he doesn't really get paid less to do so.


    Ammo Auto Care Founder Larry Kosilla Talks About Leaving A Sure Thing, Taking A Risk, & Succeeding At Doing What He Loves

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2021 54:42

    NJ and Greg talk with Ammo Auto Care Founder Larry Kosilla about his career, his company, and his success on Youtube.  Larry's Ammo NYC Youtube channel has 1.7 million subscribers which helped him build a retail business without a single distributor.  Listen as Larry talks about what drives him to produce the best products he can and why he would prefer to be poor doing what he loves, rather than being rich but unhappy at work.  Fortunately for Larry, he is is very successful doing what he loves, so that's not a problem!

    Focusing On The “Who” More Than On The “How” + Some Tips For Public Speaking

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2021 43:40

    Greg and NJ may have caused a run on all things cauliflower.  Focusing on the “who” may be more important at times than the “how”.  There are a lot of experts out there to help you with what you don't know how to do, let them do their thing.  And tips and stories about speaking in public.  Tell your story, your way.  Be yourself, be vulnerable, understand your equity and relax.  Go do it!

    Listen As The Pesci Brothers Talk About Jump-Starting Your Career & “Where's the beef?” Bill Gates says no more beef!

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2021 47:17


    NJ and Greg have advice for jump-starting your career.  Find a place you love, have a purpose for the job you are doing, it is so much more than just making money.  Build the skills you can use forever.  Mike in Middle America is back as we talk about Cauliflower taking over the world and who is Bill Gates to tell us to lay off the beef?  Impossible Burgers and Beyond Burgers are worth a try!


    Gina Carano & Cancel Culture, Work - Life Balance Is Sometimes Harder Than You Think

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 15, 2021 39:19

    The Pesci brothers discuss the potential negative impact of Cancel Culture and how the market might respond to it with the Gina Carano story as an example.  Plus, how many times have you missed a family event or a personal event because you thought it was more important for you to be at work?  Work - Life Balance is hard enough for the big things, sometimes impossible for the little ones.

    What Do We Mean When We Say Equity?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2021 45:42

    NJ and Greg discuss the Super Bowl and betting.  How NCAA basketball teams like Duke can be at .500 and still be talked about as a possible bubble team.  Meanwhile, teams from smaller conferences can't lose or they're potentially out of the Tournament!  Equity in pay is debated with an emphasis on market data, not the individual, when setting pay levels.  How do you negotiate your starting salary and pay raises?

    Two Suitcases and A Dream: Ashish Garg, CEO & Founder of Eltropy

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2021 48:59

    GameStop, AMC, Robinhood, Dave Portnoy, and a crazy week with hedge funds!  Interview with Ashish Garg, CEO and Founder of Eltropy as he talks about his journey to America with just two suit cases and $800 in traveler's checks.  It's proof that anyone with an idea and a willingness to work hard can be successful. “Starting companies is not that difficult, the challenging part is making them successful.” - Ashish Garg

    Crypto Currency Is Here To Stay, Musical Mysteries Solved, & Don't Forget To Renew Your TSA Pre-Check!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2021 44:26

    NJ and Greg talk about the NFL Playoffs with old guys playing each other and young guys playing each other to get to the Super Bowl.  Musical mysteries are solved once again, and it doesn't sound like the same band at all!  Hopefully Covid goes away one day but Crypto is here to stay.  What has to be true for Crypto to gain a stronger day-to-day foothold?

    O-V-A OVA Is Back! What Would You Do If You Won $900 Million? Make Your Own Luck & Start Something!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 18, 2021 38:55

    The Pesci brothers have a blast talking with their brother, the “It's O-V-A” , ova star AJ about winning the Powerball or Mega-millions and how he would divide the money to keep the devil out of it!  There is little chance you will win the lottery, how will you make your own luck and start something new for you.  It doesn't have to be a big idea, it just has to get you into the game.

    Creating A New Business Idea

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2021 38:01

    Coming into the new year more Americans than ever are starting new businesses.  Covid has had an impact on job stability and more and more people are taking control of their own situation, not waiting around to be told they are not essential.  The brothers talk about a new product as an example of starting something new, the Ski Stool

    College Playoffs, Dave Portnoy & Guy Fieri Working To Save Small Businesses, Innovate vs Imitate

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2021 42:54

    Greg and NJ cover the college playoffs one more time! Dave Portnoy and the Barstool Fund work to save a lunch spot NJ and Greg have been to near their home in Massachusetts. The Brothers discuss Innovation vs Imitation. When you start something new will you try to create something completely new, or imitate what is already out there?  The pros and cons of both thoughts. 

    Happy New Year! Make A New Year's Resolution And Then Do It!

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 28, 2020 26:40

    NJ and Greg wish you a Happy New Year and remind you that you can do whatever you want.  The most important thing is to find something you want to try, and try it.  Don't worry if you don't know what to do at first.  Stay positive even when others tell you that you can't.

    The College Football Committee Is A Joke, Play Your Own Game In The New Year & Take Time To Enjoy What's Important To You, Merry Christmas & Happy Hanukkah

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2020 43:10

    Greg and NJ wish you Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah.  Final words for the College Football Committee and the upcoming bowl matchups.  Unreal, and the word syndicate came up, just saying.  Find something you love to do and make a plan to do it in the new year, play your game.  Keep things in perspective and cherish what you have in your life.  Stay Hopeful.

    The Duplicity Of The College Football Committee & Is Formula 1 Just A Money Sport?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2020 47:35

    Strap in as the Pesci Brothers discuss the upcoming COVID vaccines, why big time companies are leaving California, hard truths about the College Football Committee with Mike in Middle America, and if Lewis Hamilton is really the greatest Formula 1 driver, or is it just the car?

    NJ and Greg Visit With Molio Founder & CEO Jeff Davis

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2020 78:33

    NJ and Greg talk with Jeff Davis about doing something completely new and different after a successful career at P&G. Jeff overcomes a health challenge and spends his time paying it forward.  Live your life like this is your one time around.

    Listen In As The Pesci Brothers Talk With Steve Tashjian, US Men's National Soccer Team Head Performance Specialist

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2020 65:33

    Greg and NJ talk with Steve Tashjian about his career and about the pressure to perform each week at the highest level of sport.  Steve shares his story and shows how hard work, luck, and having a plan can make all the difference.  And the brothers might mention Taysom Hill and BYU again!

    Taysom Hill Gets The Start, A Vaccine Is Coming, The Heisman, & Be An Entrepreneur

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2020 58:17

    The Pesci brothers go at it alone and share their thoughts and feelings about Taysom Hill starting at QB., a COVID 19 vaccine, the Heisman Trophy, and how to prepare to be an entrepreneur. 

    First Female MLB Hitting Instructor, Rachel Folden, Talks About Her Ground Breaking Journey

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2020 65:30

    The Pesci brothers talk baseball with MLB's first female hitting instructor, Rachel Folden.  Rachel talks about her playing career and how she started her own business, all of which lead to her getting the call to be a hitting instructor for the Chicago Cub's organization.  She didn't want to just check a box for them and they wanted to win, not make a point, perfect match!

    Medifast CEO Dan Chard & Being Fortune's Number Two Fastest Growing Company In The World

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2020 75:16

    NJ and Greg talk with Medifast CEO Dan Chard about his career and how Medifast has been named number two in Fortune's fastest growing 100 in the world.  Thoughts on the election and a birthday shoutout to their sister Janine.

    NBA Star Aaron Gordon Joins the Pesci Brothers & It's O-V-A For Cancer!

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2020 52:33

    Greg and NJ talk with Orlando Magic NBA Star Aaron Gordon about his charitable work and the new Got Milk? campaign, Mike In Middle America discusses reward systems and AJ is back after his kidney surgery and funnier than ever, It's O-V-A, OVA!

    Card Works CEO Don Berman Talks Hard Work & Making Your Own Luck

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2020 60:24

    What do you do when you sell your company for $2.65 Billion and Covid erases the deal?  You work harder. NJ and Greg talk with Card Works CEO Don Berman about how he got his start, his mentality of hard work, and his philosophy of "you win or you learn." And, NJ and Greg want to remind you to vote!

    Author Alfie Kohn, Punished By Rewards & Why Incentives Don't Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2020 56:22

    NJ and Greg talk with author Alfie Kohn about punishment and rewards, and their paternalistic power in business and life.  Later, the Brothers give their take on the playoffs and performance reviews.

    Two-Time NL MVP Dale Murphy Talks Baseball, Believing In Yourself, & What's Most Important In Life

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2020 54:11

    The Pesci brothers talk with two-time NL MVP Dale Murphy. Listen as Dale tells great stories of over coming early challenges in his career and how his manager, Bobby Cox believed in him even when he was starting to wonder. And how his manager's confidence in him and hard work lead to him being named a 7 time All-Star and two-time MVP.

    Trump Has COVID, Baseball & The Shift, O-V-A ova Is Back, & Working Remote Is The New Normal

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2020 64:09

    Join NJ and Greg as they do their first show without a guest interview. President Trump has Covid, why can't we have civil discourse? Mike in Middle America is back, should the shift be illegal in baseball? AJ and "It's OVA" are back and we couldn't be happier. And finally, is working remotely the new normal?

    P&G Sales Exec, Chris Magno, Winning The College World Series, & Always Competing

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2020 61:44

    Greg and NJ learn how Chris Magno followed his instincts and did something unexpected, twice, that lead to winning the College World Series with the Miami Hurricanes, facing the tough truth and turning that into a wonderful career and life.  And the PAC 12 getting some love, NOT!

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