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"Vibe coding" is gaining traction as a new way to approach software development—but what does it actually mean? In this episode, we unpack the term, explore how it's shaping the developer experience, and examine its potential to transform developer relations. We'll break down the pros and cons, from faster workflows to new challenges in communication and code quality, and discuss what this shift means for DevRel professionals today and in the future. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5W9fMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=eb528c7de12b4d7a&nd=1&dlsi=b0c85248dabc48ce), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

There has been a lot of chat about the decline of the tech influencer. Where have they all gone? Is tech influence too heavy or too light? PJ, Mary, Wesley, and Jason share their opinions about “capital I” Influencers and where DevRel falls into all of this. Checkouts PJ Hagerty * Take vacations. * Fyre Festival 2 is real and can hurt you (https://www.fyre.mx/). Jason Hand * Stitched video (https://www.tiktok.com/@javavvitch/video/7484337665979157806?_r=1&_t=ZP-8v4542WIxhP) * Original video (https://www.tiktok.com/@_jenniferopal/video/7483187087668235542) * AI “slop” article (https://www.404media.co/ai-slop-is-a-brute-force-attack-on-the-algorithms-that-control-reality/) * AI Tools Lab (https://ai-tools-lab.com/) Mary Thengvall awesome (fictional) books that have stuck with me lately: * When Women Were Dragons (https://amzn.to/3XCdANJ) by Kelly Barnhill * The Midnight Library (https://www.amazon.com/Midnight-Library-Novel-Matt-Haig/dp/0525559493?crid=2XC9NV2G9FSZ3&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.2X1VMX4VBN13gI1Fm3eUtvFfYDDrB1UgW6o8pimHCKMRsUdZljuYA8UPt0uNEWQpezPL4jgGeQOKhNUUDKDiZCL70hlev8QQoAFODLSCYYHRcGHaWH6c-SIUfl-9hlWwCg4pgNfLmAi4U-PiNz9mY8AjEtRk7A1DT94rKHkb_11rxAPhs7gjEfTKIrjryhjr4OwIkmpGCpN-Pb4zNCJO8TaRKWh3fUlWuTtpFangRA8.liV0Ba6DaeVkONNImws4TX39AMvsfGnTdjU8aGbGQkg&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+midnight+library&qid=1743186669&s=books&sprefix=the+midngith,stripbooks,257&sr=1-1&linkCode=sl1&tag=persea-20&linkId=4d6bfa9b106a788cfcdd7a6b09838212&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) by Matt Haig * Station Eleven (https://amzn.to/3E1xUl1) by Emily St. John Mandel Cover art photo by Diggity Marketing on Unsplash. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5W9fMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=eb528c7de12b4d7a&nd=1&dlsi=b0c85248dabc48ce), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

Communicating the message is only part of the job of a DevRel practitioner - there's also the method. Ensuring you share the same alignment and you are seen as a member of the community is even more important than being able to educate a community. In this episode we'll look at the importance of keeping yourself humble and keeping the message sincere in order to find success within the tech world. "Sit down. Be Humble” - Kendrick Lamar Checkouts Chris DeMars * Off the Hook (https://www.youtube.com/@offthehookdetroit) Wesley Faulkner * Wear Extra Fingers - Life Hack (https://x.com/weirddalle/status/1746674550891291055) PJ Hagerty * Shoalin - the WuTang board game (https://www.chillbgames.com/shaolin?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAz6q-BhCfARIsAOezPxnUbw2cvBC79gHZyq5NAgYiZN3ItzQji069Bc-iCRG9CBrDIdZKLmMaAi3XEALw_wcB) * WuTang Final Tour with Run the Jewels (https://www.thewutangclan.com/tour/) Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5W9fMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=eb528c7de12b4d7a&nd=1&dlsi=b0c85248dabc48ce), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Special Guest: Chris DeMars.

The team takes a look back at 2024 and ahead to 2025. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5W9fMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=eb528c7de12b4d7a&nd=1&dlsi=b0c85248dabc48ce), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Photo by BoliviaInteligente on Unsplash.

In this episode, Wesley, PJ, and Jason take the opportunity to talk about a new phenomenon - The DevRel Foundation from the Linux Foundation. Learn how folks have gotten involved, what the Foundation intends to do, and how you can share your voice. Topics Discussed: Introduction to the DevRel Foundation: The episode explores the new DevRel Foundation, an initiative under the Linux Foundation, created to address challenges in Developer Relations (DevRel). Wesley Faulkner introduces the foundation, noting that its purpose is to be a nonpartisan hub for discussions about DevRel and to provide resources for defining the profession and its practices. Foundational Goals: The DevRel Foundation aims to address key challenges within DevRel, including defining the role, measuring its impact, and rolling out successful DevRel programs. It seeks to aggregate existing knowledge and create a space for new insights. Wesley discusses his role in the steering committee and mentions the ongoing process of recruiting champions for various topics within DevRel to drive these discussions forward. Open Participation and Community Engagement: The foundation is described as a participative effort, where everyone from managers to community members can contribute. This is highlighted as an important distinction from more passive feedback mechanisms (like town halls). Wesley outlines the process, emphasizing that the foundation is open to diverse perspectives, and all contributions will be available for collaboration through platforms like GitHub and Discord. Challenges of Defining DevRel: A major challenge discussed is the diversity of how DevRel is implemented across different organizations (e.g., startups, enterprises, nonprofits). Wesley talks about the need for an inclusive approach that doesn't exclude any perspectives while ensuring practical outcomes. Jason Hand asks about how the foundation plans to handle these varied implementations, suggesting that a “one-size-fits-all” approach may not work. The Role of the Linux Foundation: The Linux Foundation's role is explained as crucial in providing structure, governance, and logistical support for the foundation. The Linux Foundation's history with supporting open-source projects and fostering community-driven initiatives is seen as a key advantage. Real-World Impact and Job Descriptions: Jason Hand discusses the problem of inconsistent DevRel job descriptions in the industry, which often blur the lines between roles like developer advocate, customer success, and sales engineering. The foundation's work could help standardize expectations for DevRel roles across organizations. The episode touches on how a clearer definition of DevRel could assist job seekers and hiring managers in aligning roles more effectively. Future of the DevRel Foundation: The foundation is still in its early stages, and Wesley emphasizes that while there's hope for the project, it will take time to make significant progress. They encourage participation in calls, Discord, and GitHub to stay updated and contribute. Key Takeaways: - The DevRel Foundation seeks to unify and provide structure to the diverse, evolving field of Developer Relations. Inclusive participation is at the core of the foundation's mission, aiming to gather input from all sectors of the community. - The foundation is driven by volunteer work and community passion, with the support of the Linux Foundation's structure and resources. - GitHub and Discord are key platforms for collaboration, ensuring that community voices are heard and that contributions are open for review and iteration. - The foundation's work will eventually help provide clarity in DevRel role definitions, benefiting both organizations and professionals in the field. Action Items: - Join the DevRel Foundation: Individuals can join calls, participate in discussions, or contribute to the work via GitHub and Discord. - Become a Champion: The foundation is actively seeking managers to lead specific topics within DevRel. - Stay Informed: Engage with the monthly updates and open calls to follow the foundation's progress. Key Words and Themes: DevRel Foundation Developer Relations (DevRel) Linux Foundation Open Participation Inclusive Governance Community-Driven Initiatives Job Descriptions in DevRel GitHub and Discord Collaboration Nonprofit Organization Volunteer-Driven Transcript [00:00:00] PJ Haggerty: Hey everybody. And welcome to another episode of Community Pulse. We're super excited to have you. [00:00:04] PJ Haggerty: This week we decided we would take a look at a new phenomenon, the DevRel Foundation, the Developer Relations Foundation from our friends at the Linux Foundation. [00:00:12] PJ Haggerty: Some of you are probably already aware of it. Some of you are probably in the discord chat. Some people might not know about it at all. So we want to take this opportunity to share some information about it and see what we could find out and how we felt about it. So with that, I am joined by, of course, Jason Hand and Wesley Faulkner. Wesley, you've been doing a lot of work with the DevRel foundation as far as like looking at, working models and how people can actually get things done within the foundation. [00:00:37] PJ Haggerty: So do you want to kick us off and give us a description of what's going on? [00:00:41] Wesley Faulkner: Yes. Let me lay a little bit of the groundwork to understand my involvement and how. So I'm part of the steering committee. There's five of us in total. And I am the newest member of that five person steering committee. [00:00:55] Wesley Faulkner: I've been part of the DevRel foundation since June of this year. [00:01:00] And the foundations, the start of it had, I think, started way before that even before the beginning of the year. And the involvement with the Linux foundation happens like I think in around the February timeframe. And so the thought is that there are Certain types of challenges that are unique to people in dev rel defining what we do is one of them that I think is something that people are familiar with, but others that have been lingering around about how do you measure dev rel and like adequately, like, how do you plan for the future and how do you roll out a developer relations program? [00:01:35] Wesley Faulkner: Those are like the broad strokes of it. So the thought of the Dev Rel foundation is to be a nonpartisan home for these types of discussions. And we are currently set up as the steering committee, as people who are trying to facilitate those conversations, give structure and processing of what timeline we should have these conversations and be helped, like [00:02:00] with the being a home to people to find this, Information once we have it all created and to be a repository for a lot of existing knowledge, but also allow the connection tissue to create new knowledge that is not there right now. [00:02:16] Wesley Faulkner: So that's like the whole arc of it. Depending on when you're listening to this podcast, we are currently enrolling people to take on and champion these specific areas of topics. Here are the lists that we've aggregated from the community of the challenges. [00:02:33] Wesley Faulkner: And we're looking for managers to say I want to champion that and run it to ground to make sure that we actually have things defined to help us all as dev or all practitioners. [00:02:43] PJ Haggerty: And I want to zero in because I think that some people I was in the initial meeting kickoff thing that happened back in June and there was a concern and it was oh, this is a town hall, not really a feedback thing, but more of a town hall where we'll come and tell you what we think is [00:03:00] good and you can come and tell us if you don't think it's good. [00:03:03] PJ Haggerty: But what it really is is a participative activity. Not everybody wants to, and that's okay. But the idea is really behind let's put together a compendium of knowledge about what we do and put that so that when people reference it, they can easily say, this is the way it works. [00:03:22] PJ Haggerty: It's a constantly moving organic body. It's similar to software. There is nothing done on this. Would that, do you think that's accurate? Great. [00:03:31] Wesley Faulkner: Yeah, I think that initially I was on that initial feedback preview call as well. And that session, I think, raised a lot of awareness about how developed the thought was of where things were going to go and how open to input. [00:03:47] Wesley Faulkner: The foundation was to the community and letting the community shape the direction and the focus of the foundation. And I think to its credit, the foundation has taken a lot of that into heart. [00:04:00] And I think that's when I joined actually because of that call or after that call. A lot of the work that I've done, at least on the initial side, was finding a way to make sure that the community's voice is heard. [00:04:12] Wesley Faulkner: And then once we get all of this feedback, how do we actually act on it? Because it feels like if you think about the possibilities, the developer relations, there's just so much out there. How do we choose which ones that we're going to help move forward? And I devised or helped with the rest of the people in the steering committee and other feedback. [00:04:31] Wesley Faulkner: From people like you, PJ, about how we address the needs of the community in a way that doesn't feel exclusionary. [00:04:39] PJ Haggerty: Think exclusionary is the word you're looking for. Yeah. [00:04:40] Wesley Faulkner: And also how do we actually be productive to actually move forward instead of having constant discussions all the time and where do we actually make sure that it was the right time to do action? [00:04:52] Jason Hand: Wesley, I got a question. I feel like a lot of our episodes, we generally take a stance on [00:05:00] when it comes to implementing certain things that it just depends on the situation of the organization, the team, the objectives of the org that they're in, there's always just like so many dependencies and variables that go into an implementation of things to take a stance on, how certain aspects or certain elements of developer relations Has found success. [00:05:23] Jason Hand: I'm wondering if there's plans or if there's been any discussion on including lots of different implementation scenarios rather than trying to be one single source of truth, because I feel like that's probably going to be some pushback and going to be some feedback that maybe we hear from this type of organization or foundation, of what goals do we have about putting into concrete terms what. [00:05:48] Jason Hand: developer relations is or isn't when we know that there's just so many ways to do it, Startups are going to do it one way enterprise is going to do it a different One part of the world's going to do it in one way [00:06:00] versus others so Anyway, just curious what your thoughts are on that [00:06:04] Wesley Faulkner: Yeah, there's different verticals, like there's regulated industries like fintech, there are different areas like nonprofit work and open source software as opposed to closed source software. [00:06:14] Wesley Faulkner: Then there is developer first, and then there's developer plus then you mentioned different languages, but there's also different geos and there's also different access to technologies, like parts of the developing world where steady connected electricity and internet is not something that's. [00:06:31] Wesley Faulkner: So there's many different facets. So the answer is, we are trying to be as inclusive as possible by making sure that people have the opportunity to put forth their specific concern. At the same time, we are requiring that as groups are formed around these topics, that there are at least three managers. [00:06:56] Wesley Faulkner: To each of these topics to make sure that there's not [00:07:00] one perspective that's running the show. And then each of these topics, the managers need to recruit at least eight participants. This is to increase the diversity and the different ways that people see things and to make sure that these edge cases or main cases are incorporated into the final result. [00:07:20] Wesley Faulkner: And last, but not least, this is supposed to be an iterative process. So whatever the group Creates, it will be posted to GitHub and you can, and everyone and anyone can put in pull requests so that their voices are heard and their perspectives are also taken into account. [00:07:39] PJ Haggerty: And you're saying all this and for those of you who are listening to the audio and saying, wow, Wesley really has this down. [00:07:44] PJ Haggerty: Wesley has very much structured this and put it into a GitHub document for people to interact with and understand. And I think this that allayed a lot of my concerns when this first came up, because I was like, is this an exercise in student government where the most popular kids [00:08:00] will be voted into their positions of power. [00:08:01] PJ Haggerty: And everyone else will just sit by the wayside with no voice. And Wesley was very careful to design a way in which that wasn't. I think one of the, one of the things that I liked the most about the structure of this, and we'll add the link to the GitHub and the show notes, but one of the things that I really enjoyed about the structure of this was that anyone who is a manager for only a certain period of time. [00:08:24] PJ Haggerty: This isn't a situation where you are, to use the term, they often use an open source project. You're a benevolent dictator for life. Which is that, that's your Linus's and Your David Heinemeyer Handwritten. It's great that you create this thing. [00:08:37] PJ Haggerty: Please let other people as it evolves, take it over. And that's baked into the design. And I feel like we're laying a lot on Wesley here. And I think that there's varying differences between what even the people on this podcast are doing as far as level of participation. [00:08:51] PJ Haggerty: Like I'm a passive participant. I've been watching what's going on, participating in the discord. Talking to some people about some things, but I'm not a manager. [00:09:00] Wesley's a part of the steering committee. Mary had, is that some of those initial meetings are taking a step back due to some busy work related things. [00:09:07] PJ Haggerty: And Jason, are you in the collective? Are you in the discussion or are you just an external passive observer at this point in time?. [00:09:16] Jason Hand: Definitely a passive observer. I think, just through knowing Wesley and the conversations we have here and there I may be a little closer tHand others in terms of just, when I started hearing about it. [00:09:27] Jason Hand: But yeah, at this point I'm not involved. Other than, like I said, just conversations I've had with Wesley. But definitely curious to learn more about what's going on with it. And I quite honestly, I don't have a lot of depth in knowledge around any of the Linux foundations or any just foundations in general. [00:09:45] Jason Hand: And I don't know if Wesley, if that's something you can dig a little deeper into, like what would somebody who has no knowledge of what the Linux Foundation is and any of the offshoots of that, like what are the core benefits? [00:09:57] Wesley Faulkner: I gotta say that there's something that I have to [00:10:00] say about the Linox Foundation in general is that the foundation is an umbrella of other open source projects. So Linux itself is a Linux Foundation project. Git. Is a Linux foundation project. And there's several other Valky is also big and new and it was just launched at the open source summit. [00:10:21] Wesley Faulkner: In September. [00:10:23] PJ Haggerty: Don't forget about that. Dang Kubernetes that people keep talking about. The kids are all under the coop. Yep. CNCF is [00:10:28] Wesley Faulkner: underneath. Yep. The CNCF is under the Linux foundation. Those projects that you know, and love have come under that same umbrella. [00:10:36] Wesley Faulkner: But I have to say the dev rel foundation is different tHand any of those are in all of the other projects because that this feels more of, A governance body or like a list of documents and not necessarily focused on code and making a product from that standpoint, which I think is a little bit different. [00:10:58] Wesley Faulkner: And the question is [00:11:00] why the Linux foundation, and we have a lot of these addressed in our FAQ, if you go to the But for my take that we wanted a place in a home. That was nonpartisan, meaning like it's not owned by a company or someone with specific interests. One that has a history of supporting software and open source processes and making sure it's community like the way that we come to decisions is open to the community and the community can participate [00:11:32] Wesley Faulkner: I can't think of any that checks all of the boxes. So it's part of the Linux Foundation because it is one that does already have a reputation. They are giving us resources and supporting us from a process standpoint. And it allows us to have access to other projects and maintainers and people who've been doing this way longer tHand we have. [00:11:55] Wesley Faulkner: And so being under that umbrella also gives us that connection and [00:12:00] of the siblings who are also in the project. But also just to make sure that it is noted that we are unfunded product projects under the Linux foundation. So we were not trying to make money. No, one's giving us money. [00:12:14] Wesley Faulkner: It's just right now it's all community and volunteer work. That's in the found formation of this foundation. So it's our passions that are driving it. So if there are better suggestions, we are open to hear it. But right now the Linux Foundation sounds like a really good choice and they've been an excellent partner for us. [00:12:36] Wesley Faulkner: Without her support and her guidance and her doing the intros and her doing a lot of the heavy lifting I think we wouldn't have gotten as far as we have right now. [00:12:47] PJ Haggerty: I think it's interesting you mention that because I know that organically around I had been talking for a couple years with people. Wesley, you and I had a conversation that I think is now two and a half years ago about putting together some sort [00:13:00] governance document, some sort of something to say, this is DevRel. [00:13:05] PJ Haggerty: This is the way it worked. This is, giving some sort of guideline to what this all means. I think that some people might be like the Linux foundation eyebrows raised what's going on here at the same time, I think, without having that logistical support, if not the organizational support, this may never have come off because so many people were working in so many small working groups, but not really getting anywhere because they couldn't figure out that logistical component, like how do we do this and not exclude people? [00:13:32] PJ Haggerty: How do we do this and ensure that we have the good mindshare and the diverse mindshare that we need to actually share this information. These are questions that luckily the Linux foundation has answered before, and therefore they can answer it for this. [00:13:49] Wesley Faulkner: Yeah. I got to say that there's been a lot of reaction to the Linux foundation. [00:13:52] Wesley Faulkner: And even just the DevRel foundation. Let's just talk it from there about one saying, why do we need this? That's one of the feedbacks that we've gotten. The [00:14:00] other is, this is amazing. I, this is, I'm so excited. And then I think what Jason also said is that. I'm going to wait and see, so will we, will this have legs? [00:14:11] Wesley Faulkner: Will this keep going? Will this actually produce anything? Will this make a change? And when we were working on our little project back then, Jason PJ it was, some of the conversations were just like, why are we the two people? Or what, why are we the ones to be able to hold this torch and I think the Linux foundation kind of answers some of those questions in terms of it, are we a trusted organization or who legitimizes us for being a person that could have a voice? [00:14:43] Jason Hand: So one more thing I wanted to touch on because I do see a lot of benefits that can come and clearly there's, great examples from the Linux Foundation of success and how this kind of community effort. Can come together and really help in a lot of ways, but a concrete way that I think really [00:15:00] stands out to me that could help for a lot of those folks who are either new to developer relations or in community in general, or maybe they're out on the market looking for new roles because we do hear so much of a variety in terms of what DevRel can look like. [00:15:15] Jason Hand: And you see it like on new job postings where one company is looking for. With a title as a developer relations professional or some variation of that, but then looking through the description, it looks like it's going to include some roles and responsibilities that have traditionally not aligned with developer relations. [00:15:32] Jason Hand: Oftentimes there's just so much variance in terms of what DevRel roles could look like, but this might actually help. Narrow that a little bit and make it easier for both those who are looking to fill roles and those who are looking to find new roles. We're all speaking the same language on what the expectations are here. [00:15:51] PJ Haggerty: Yeah. There's that centralization concept of, maybe if we can define and say, this is what DevRel looks like, then [00:16:00] maybe the hiring managers and the people at LinkedIn and indeed, and what have you, is Monster.com still a thing? I don't think Monster.com is still a thing. [00:16:07] PJ Haggerty: But maybe the people who are in charge of all of this hiring and doing all these things, maybe they can finally have a good definition to understand that maybe you're not looking for a developer advocate or a developer relations specialist, maybe you're actually looking for someone in marketing. [00:16:24] PJ Haggerty: Maybe you're actually looking for a sales engineer. Who's technically minded, but they're to speak to onboard clients. Maybe you're even looking for customer success. Because like you said, Jason, I've looked at a lot of these job descriptions, especially over here that I was unemployed. [00:16:39] PJ Haggerty: And a lot of these people do not understand that their questions that they're asking or that the positions they're describing are not developer relations positions, but. The buzzwords here. So let's go with what we got. [00:16:52] Wesley Faulkner: And also to be frank, these questions have been answered and probably it's been answered multiple [00:17:00] times by different people and everyone who's been in DevRel for a very long time can see and read these and say, that's actually valid. [00:17:09] Wesley Faulkner: Someone who's brand new may not have that ability to distinguish what is. Actually something that makes sense. I think the DevRel foundation will help those new people to be able to do some of that work for them. [00:17:21] Wesley Faulkner: Not necessarily have to create all this new documentation and resources, but aggregating some of the things that are out there that is really good, high quality work that we can help with bringing them into the fold and allowing people to use us as a central point to jump off and find these other resources. [00:17:38] PJ Haggerty: Yeah, that's awesome. And I think that I'm looking forward to seeing what comes out of it. People should not have an expectation. Let's set some boundaries here. People should not have an expectation that like come January one, the dev rel foundation is about to drop the hottest mixtape you've ever heard about dev rel. [00:17:54] PJ Haggerty: These things are going to take time. Yes, we have hope, but hope takes work. [00:17:59] Wesley Faulkner: [00:18:00] And 1 of the things that we're asking or requiring for all these groups that form is that they give at least a monthly update on 1 of our open calls and open meetings that we do every week. [00:18:10] Wesley Faulkner: If you want to stay abreast about the progress take a look in at. Our GitHub and look at what the process we're working and fostering. And also just, if you have input jump into one of these calls and just talk to the people who are championing these directly. [00:18:26] PJ Haggerty: Or at the very least jump in the discord and see what the conversation is. [00:18:29] PJ Haggerty: Yep. I think there's a lot of good conversation going on over there as well. And with that, thank you for giving us space to talk about this. Enjoy the podcast? 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It comes as no surprise that something in the hiring of Developer Relations practitioners has become a mystery box of confusion. No standard path to follow, interviews ranging all over the map, homework assignments that go nowhere, and most conversations leading to few actual opportunities. Wesley, Jason, and PJ share their thoughts on what's happening and whether or not there is hope for the future. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5W9fMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=eb528c7de12b4d7a&nd=1&dlsi=b0c85248dabc48ce), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Artwork by Photo by CHUTTERSNAP on Unsplash.

Recently, the topic of DevRel maturity sparked a conversation: What qualities define a mature community and a seasoned team? Join PJ, Jason, Mary, and Wesley as they share their insights on past experiences, current trends shaping the field, and key indicators to monitor as you strive to build a thriving, successful community. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5W9fMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=eb528c7de12b4d7a&nd=1&dlsi=b0c85248dabc48ce), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Photo by Suzanne D. Williams on Unsplash.

Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5W9fMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=eb528c7de12b4d7a&nd=1&dlsi=b0c85248dabc48ce), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

Over the past few years, we've seen conferences ebb and flow. Some community-run conferences have evolved into new things, new ones have sprouted up while other annual favorites have sadly gone extinct. What goes into a community-led conference? How does someone get involved? Let's take a look! Checkouts Mo McElaney * Contributor Covenant (https://www.contributor-covenant.org/) * Presented “Digital Discrimination: Cognitive Bias in Machine Learning (and LLMs!)“ at PyData Conf on July 29 (https://pydata.org/vermont2024) - look out for the video! * Speaking at AI for the Rest of Us Conf (https://aifortherestofus.live/) in London this fall * Ask a Master Gardener Hotline (https://www.uvm.edu/extension/mastergardener/helpline)! Matty Stratton * Hevy (https://www.hevyapp.com/) - lifting app * She's a Beast (https://www.shesabeast.co/) - great program Couch to Barbell; amazing discord for folks/community * Fallout - the game (https://fallout.bethesda.net/en) and the show (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12637874)! * Devopsdays Chicago CFP (devopsdays.org/chicago) opens Aug 5! Wesley Faulkner * You're Not Listening (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WJ6MR2P?ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_SRV1JX89CDECDC3YMAD4&ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_SRV1JX89CDECDC3YMAD4&social_share=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_SRV1JX89CDECDC3YMAD4) by Kate Murphy Jason Hand * Wild Spaces (https://www.wildspaces.work/) * Becoming SRE (https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/becoming-sre/9781492090540/) * You Have Not Heard Your Favorite Song: How Streaming Changes Music (https://www.amazon.com/Have-Heard-Your-Favourite-Song/dp/191448715X) by Glenn McDonald Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5W9fMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=eb528c7de12b4d7a&nd=1&dlsi=b0c85248dabc48ce), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Artwork Photo by Tyler Callahan (https://unsplash.com/@tylercallahan?utm_content=creditCopyText&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=unsplash) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@tylercallahan?utm_content=creditCopyText&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=unsplash) Special Guests: Matty Stratton and Mo McElaney.

This conversation follows up on our discussion about the noteworthy changes in Developer Relations over recent years and how many of our friends and colleagues have chosen to leverage their DevRel skills in new and exciting ways. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5W9fMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=eb528c7de12b4d7a&nd=1&dlsi=b0c85248dabc48ce), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

Developer Relations has gone through quite a few changes over the last few years. In that vein, some people have found new skills in the ever-evolving world of tech. Along their journey, they moved away from DevRel, but still use those abilities in new ways. So, what is it like when you bounce from DevRel? Quote: “The message I'm sending to myself: I can't change the world until I change myself first” - Kendrick Lamar Checkouts Taylor Barnett-Torabi * Range (https://davidepstein.com/range/) by David Epstein Matt Broberg * ADRs (https://github.com/joelparkerhenderson/architecture-decision-record) or documenting decisions as a thing™ – Any Decision Record (formally Architectural) * If you're looking at PM roles, The Product Manager Interview (https://www.lewis-lin.com/the-product-manager-interview-lewis-lin) by Lewis C. Lin helped me get my footing Wesley Faulkner * How Teams Can Skip the Drama and Embrace Healthy Conflict with Amy Gallo | SXSW 2024 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwuwFyiaCdU) Jason Hand * DASH - 2024 (https://www.dashcon.io/) PJ Hagerty * Frank Turner's latest album - Undefeated (https://combine.fm/spotify/album/5htcBxqWfEWaZ7CCETXcH9) * Gary Clark Jr - JPEG RAW (https://combine.fm/spotify/album/09XurHGqbBgvj7SH96UbPV) * Geeky Jerseys (https://www.geekyjerseys.com/) Mary Thengvall * The Humans (https://amzn.to/3y3r5w1) by Matt Haig * Contributor Covenant (https://www.contributor-covenant.org/) code of conduct - they're working on v3 of the code of conduct and want feedback on how community builders have implemented CoCs in the past. Take the survey to help out! (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdf3QE5n5ILH7Fq1nNSECwUFnfYYOwQw4A_zYik43CGVrdfcQ/viewform) Photo by Mantas Hesthaven on Unsplash Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5W9fMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=eb528c7de12b4d7a&nd=1&dlsi=b0c85248dabc48ce), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Special Guests: Matt Broberg and Taylor Barnett-Torabi.

Our hosts elaborate on the notion that, apart from speaking engagements, much of the work undertaken by DevRel professionals remains backstage, yet through live streaming, they can learn publicly and involve community members, overcoming concerns and fostering engaging content for community learning. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5W9fMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=eb528c7de12b4d7a&nd=1&dlsi=b0c85248dabc48ce), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

With the exception of speaking at conferences, much of what we do as DevRel professionals is behind-the-scenes. However, with live streaming, we're able to not only learn in public, but bring our community members into the experience. While this can be intimidating, and lead to questions like “what if I make a mistake?” - or - “What if I don't know all the answers?” - or - “How do I make sure I come across as knowledgeable while I'm also learning?” it can also be a great way to create engaging content that helps your community learn alongside you. Checkouts Laurent Bugnion * Learn Live (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/shows/learn-live/?WT.mc_id=academic-0000-lbugnion) - the show I produce for Microsoft * GalaSoft (https://galasoft.ch/) - my website with my blog, past presentations and future appearances Darko Mesaros * AWS Community - Livestreams (https://community.aws/livestreams) * rup12 (https://www.rup12.net/) Wesley Faulkner * Spyware leak offers ‘first-of-its-kind' look inside Chinese government hacking efforts (https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/23/isoon-china-government-hacking-spyware-leak/) Jason Hand * “Use Gemini AI to improve productivity while using Datadog” (https://cloud.withgoogle.com/next/speakers?session=OPS206) @ Google Next * Datadog On Data Science (https://datadogon.datadoghq.com/episodes/datadog-on-data-science/) Mary Thengvall * The Roaring Days of Zora Lily (https://amzn.to/3uIwpUg) (and everything by Noelle Salazar) * Timeshifte (https://www.timeshifter.com/)r - app for avoiding jetlag Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5W9fMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=eb528c7de12b4d7a&nd=1&dlsi=b0c85248dabc48ce), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Special Guests: Darko Mesaros and Laurent Bugnion.

PJ and Wesley expound on stories of success, what it takes to get to a "win" and reflect on their conversation with Ole and Kevin. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

Sharing success stories can be helpful in finding what the next step is for your Developer Relations and Community team. That one project that just went perfectly; that moment that showed everyone things were moving forward. Today we'll share the vision, strategy, approach, and bumps along the way and the end result…some stories of wins that will lead us forward. Checkouts Kevin Blanco * Davinci Resolve & Storytelling for DevRel (https://davinci.mov/) * Live every week Davinci Resolve & Storytelling for DevRel (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinblanco/) Ole Hejlskov * Post-layoff assistance to find new positions - take it! Wesley Faulkner * BioDrop (https://www.biodrop.io/) - Heard from Eddie Jaoude * Tech Industry Mass Layoffs (https://youtu.be/UcSYHOubzJk) PJ Hagerty * Sunny Day Real Estate (https://combine.fm/spotify/track/1OlbUQSGl2vsB1S7CaprIw) by Novum Vetus Artwork photo by Jason Dent (https://unsplash.com/@jdent?utm_content=creditCopyText&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=unsplash) Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5W9fMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=399ea15f67514023), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Special Guests: Kevin Blanco and Ole Hejlskov.

Wesley, PJ, and Jason wrap up their conversation about mentoring as well as being a mentee. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

Part of the road to being better at Developer Relations is applying what we've learned and passing that knowledge on to others. Whether you are a direct mentor or leading a team of folks new to DevRel, it's important to take stock of what we are doing and how we can best serve the people we know with the knowledge we have. Checkouts Tessa Kriesel * DevRel Day in the Life (https://www.learndevrel.com/tag/day-in-the-life/) * Minicow Cross Breeds (https://www.homesteadherds.com/mini-crossbreeds-better-for-homesteads/) Rosie Sherry * Community Economies: Reframing Wealth Building (https://www.homesteadherds.com/mini-crossbreeds-better-for-homesteads/) Wesley Faulkner * Why Platformer is leaving Substack (https://www.platformer.news/why-platformer-is-leaving-substack/) PJ Hagerty * Kim Jin San (https://open.spotify.com/album/0Kkc5MPB4rGHjibTvhjPMw?si=Wd_x6-ZkQaaTqN-aglJqbg) - you may have seen his guitar playing all over social media (https://youtu.be/6EV1FMcNbxw?si=_ftM5nEpsEStzus0), but he has even more really great music. * The Mars Room by Rachel Kushner (https://www.amazon.com/Mars-Room-Novel-Rachel-Kushner-ebook/dp/B075RX1YLM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3B4GDQZQKLHJ9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5G-M76K1eQ6Rk8cszbSbV-qnZ-fOT0XOwWZ-EbKMqDSC3NviaKXEf7q3yptLs9dY_Mk4TntUJw8bGQp5ImiQf4FfPlgzgQE-9SRA17hrYVpML5pJ8HrKzHb8L6LJXyDK4Z8sUhENs2HEBkg5WI2xhhmO4aEIxRuXYxMVfRFUcDnE6bHsctFbVvb454xxIV9DZP2QtFv2-SY67Hb3l3tdCUX2ltkfUlprhksgCCPfYeA.r78wfy3gX1qS_bJ3CI2ppfDHNjnZ0LRIA7E4VbH8-ec&dib_tag=se&keywords=The+Mars+Room&qid=1705687372&sprefix=the+mars+room%2Caps%2C97&sr=8-1) - great book from the author of The Flamethrowers Jason Hand * Wiring the Winning Organization: Liberating Our Collective Greatness through Slowification, Simplification, and Amplification (https://www.amazon.com/Wiring-Winning-Organization-Slowification-Simplification/dp/1950508420) by Gene Kim * Nvidia GTC Conf (https://www.nvidia.com/gtc/) * Datadog On (https://datadogon.datadoghq.com/) Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Special Guests: Rosie Sherry and Tessa Kriessl.

Our Community Pulse hosts take a look back at 2023 - the episodes, the patterns, and our observations. Checkouts PJ Hagerty * Go see live music and support your local musicians! * Baldur's Gate 3 (https://baldursgate3.game/) deserves to be Game of the Year Jason Hand * The Midnight Library (https://amzn.to/47bcIkU) * A Court of Thorns and Roses (https://amzn.to/41B0zEL) * Fourth Wing (https://amzn.to/3RSxvp3) Mary Thengvall * Kindle Unlimited subscription (https://amzn.to/3RCVaIG) - $11.99/month for unlimited ebooks and audiobooks! Wesley Faulkner * Tesla is having issues producing 4680 cells for Cybertruck, sketchy report says | Electrek (https://electrek.co/2023/12/21/tesla-issues-producing-4680-cells-cybertruck-sketchy-report/) Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

Mary, PJ, and Jason wrap up their conversation of the Common Room survey and what it might mean for the industry moving forward. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

As the industry continues to change, keeping a pulse on it becomes even more difficult. Luckily, the team over at Common Room partnered with a number of DevRel professionals (some of whom are on this call!) to create a survey focused on DevRel compensation as well as roles and responsibilities, business impact, success metrics, and personal wellbeing. In this episode, we'll talk about the results of the survey and learn what we can do to push the industry forward. 2023 Common Room Survey Results Overview (https://www.commonroom.io/blog/2023-developer-relations-compensation-and-culture-report-overview/) Checkouts Rebecca Marshburn * The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How our Government Segregated America (https://www.amazon.com/Color-Law-Forgotten-Government-Segregated/dp/1631494538?&linkCode=sl1&tag=persea-20&linkId=4c15702a44d9c65837b15d8b7d3976e7&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) by Richard Rothstein * Common Room DevRel playbooks (https://www.commonroom.io/playbooks/?filters=community/developer-relations) - Like ‘How to automate your GitHub triage processes' and ‘Easily meet your support SLAs': * re:Invent - come join our DevRel brunch! Invite here (https://commonroombrunchinvegas.splashthat.com/) - open to all! PJ Hagerty * New Wu-Tang Single (https://combine.fm/spotify/track/3vTSGUgTcDJHO47dlkzDcU) * Boygenius - The Rest (https://open.spotify.com/album/1n0esOkFQdL74PwMwTVgtz?si=QHLrBqmESzWpmFdqBOLSyg) * Southern Rites - a Photo documentary (https://www.eastman.org/doc-southernrites) * Ocean at the End of the Lane (https://www.amazon.com/Ocean-End-Lane-Novel/dp/0063070707) by Neil Gaiman Jason Hand * Re:invent Sessions (https://dtdg.co/3slq5ks) Mary Thengvall * Demon Copperhead (https://amzn.to/3tImsVQ) by Barbara Kingsolver * P!nk - new(ish) album (https://pink.lnk.to/TRUSTFALL) + concert experience Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Episode artwork by UX Indonesia (https://unsplash.com/@uxindo?utm_content=creditCopyText&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=unsplash) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@uxindo?utm_content=creditCopyText&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=unsplash) Special Guest: Rebecca Marshburn.

Join Wesley and PJ at DevRelCon. Both keynote speakers at this year's event, they had the chance to connect with some fantastic attendees. Here is a conversation straight from Wesley, PJ, and other attendees at DevRelCon. Artwork by Jack Finnigan (https://unsplash.com/@jackofallstreets) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@jackofallstreets). Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Special Guests: Alvin Bryan, Graham, and Kris Jenkins.

Are you ready for even more hot takes, strong opinions, fun and a little bit of snark? Join Wesley, Jason, and PJ as they continue the discussion. You won't want to miss it!

We all know there is no end to the various perceptions around what it is we do and who we are. It's something that makes defining Developer Relations difficult and makes it difficult to describe to others. So what are some of the touch points and touchier topics when it comes to DevRel? Checkouts SJ Morris * lpubelts.com (https://lpubelts.com/) Wesley Faulkner * I, Robot - Isaac Aslmov (https://www.amazon.com/I-Robot-Isaac-Asimov-audiobook/dp/B0002P0F2G/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=I%2C+Robot&qid=1694104756&s=books&sr=1-1) PJ Hagerty * Baldur's Gate 3 (https://baldursgate3.game/) * Sunny Day Real Estate (https://sunnyday.realestate/) Jason Hand * Workshop Week (https://www.datadoghq.com/event/workshop-week-2023/) * Reliable Machine Learning: Applying SRE Principles to ML in Production (https://www.amazon.com/Reliable-Machine-Learning-Principles-Production/dp/1098106229/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=sre+for+machine+learning+o%27reilly&qid=1692981778&sr=8-1) Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Artwork photo by Mockup Graphics (https://unsplash.com/@mockupgraphics?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@mockupgraphics?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) Special Guest: SJ Morris.

Don't miss our hosts as they delve back into their takeaways from their conversation with Angie and Evan about the importance of clarifying and concentrating on your role. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

As we learned in Episode 79, “How We Broke DevRel as an Industry (https://www.communitypulse.io/79-how-we-broke-devrel-as-an-industry)”, sometimes the people in charge may not know how to set you up for success. The tasks you're expected to do can take you away from your core focus. In today's episode, we'll talk through how to define your role and defend your team against that very real possibility of being tasked with items that don't belong within your purview. Checkouts Evan Hamilton * Factfulness: Ten Reasons We're Wrong about the World by Hans Rosling (https://www.amazon.com/Factfulness-Reasons-World-Things-Better/dp/1250123828/ref=sr_1_1?hvadid=580750427006&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9010222&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=5641429314803382062&hvtargid=kwd-429505407993&hydadcr=22567_13493270&keywords=factfulness+by+hans+rosling&qid=1690810799&s=books&sr=1-1) * People I Mostly Admire speaks to Chicago's innovative sheriff (https://freakonomics.com/podcast/chicagos-renegade-sheriff-wants-to-fix-law-enforcement/) * Chris Detzel (https://chrisdetzel.com/) * Community Manager Breakfast (https://www.evanhamilton.com/community-manager-breakfast/) Angie Jones * ChatGPT (https://openai.com/) * Hackathons! Wesley Faulkner * Positioning with April Dunford (http://positioning.show) * Setting up For Success in Your Next Role: Where to start? (https://www.devrelx.com/post/setting-up-for-success-in-your-next-role-where-to-start) Jason Hand * DASH conference (https://www.dashcon.io/) * Beginners Guide to Sketchnoting: Focus Better, Learn Faster and Remember Longer by Drawing Your Notes (https://a.co/d/eSaombF) by Ashton Rodenhiser Mary Thengvall * American Dirt (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/45721673-american-dirt) by Jeanine Cummins * Puppy Training: Sexier than a Squirrel (https://absolute-dogs.com/product/squirrel/) Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. All headings are in bold. Callouts are using full host names. Artwork photo by Paul Skorupskas (https://unsplash.com/@pawelskor?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@pawelskor?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) Special Guests: Angie Jones and Evan Hamilton.

Tune in to PJ and Mary as they revisit their insightful discussion with Danielle and David on the subject of devops. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

Many see DevRel practitioners as up front, in the spotlight, on stage, or at least with their name on lots of content. What if we told you there were people behind the scenes making community operations their priority? What does that look like, and who are the people making the lives of DevRel folks easier? That's the topic of today's Community Pulse episode. Show Notes Blogposts about Community Operations roles: What do Community Operations Managers do? (https://www.cmxhub.com/blog/community-operations-managers) from CMX What does a community operations manager do? (https://www.commonroom.io/blog/what-does-a-community-operations-manager-do/) from Common Room Community Operations: A Beginner's Guide (https://www.commsor.com/post/community-operations-beginners-guide) from Commsor Checkouts Danielle Andrist * Make (https://www.make.com/en) - just discovered it so I can't vouch for it yet but it's like Zapier on steroids * Shift (https://tryshift.com/) - just got a new work laptop so I had to update to the newest version of Shift, I'm on the alpha release with the new workspaces and I gotta say, it's a huge improvement from the Shift version I was using (which to be fair, was several versions old) David Blank-Edelman * Murmurs of Earth (https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/263952) by Carl Sagan * Tartine Bread (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8185785-tartine-bread?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_7) by Chad Robertson * The Perfect Loaf (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60279778-the-perfect-loaf?ref=nav_sb_ss_2_16) by Maurizio Leo PJ Hagerty * Rever (https://www.rever.co/) - motorcycle rider social media * Clearword (https://clearword.com/) - make meetings into action item lists (not just transcription, but actual things you can take action on) Mary Thengvall * Word by Word (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34449897-word-by-word): The Secret Life of Dictionaries by Kory Stamper Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5W9fMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=3aa0941849284f8e), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Artwork photo by Moses Williams (https://unsplash.com/fr/@spacejunkpictures?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/fr/@spacejunkpictures?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) Special Guests: Danielle Andrist and David Blank-Edelman.

Over the course of its history, DevRel has changed and evolved, both in the day-to-day responsibilities but also in the identify of what DevRel is. External influences as well as internal influences have changed the definitions, expectations, and roles within DevRel, for better and for worse. in this episode, we'll talk about * what's working * what's not working * how we can move forward to a future where DevRel makes sense. Checkouts Ben Greenberg * Rationality: What It Is, Why It Seems Scarce, Why It Matters (https://stevenpinker.com/publications/rationality-what-it-why-it-seems-so-scarce-and-why-it-matters) by Steven Pinke Jason Lengstorf * The Range (https://davidepstein.com/the-range/) Mia Moore * Chickpea Magazine (https://chickpeamagazine.com/): A whole foods vegan lifestyle magazine & blog Wesley Faulkner * Crossing the Chasm: Marketing and Selling Disruptive Products to Mainstream Customers (https://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Chasm-3rd-Disruptive-Mainstream/dp/0062292986) by Geoffrey A. Moore PJ Hagerty * Music League (https://musicleague.com/) Mary Thengvall * Whalebone Magazine (https://whalebonemag.com/): “a community of like-minded individuals who all believe that being delightfully disoriented and putting some fun into the world isn't the worst way to spend some time.” Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Artwork photo by Jackson Simmer (https://unsplash.com/@simmerdownjpg?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@simmerdownjpg?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) Special Guests: Ben Greenberg, Jason Lengstorf, and Mia Moore.

There have been many hot takes and subtweets about the positive and negative connotations of having a robust list of companies on one's DevRel resume. Is it a sign of success or a signal that things are more fluid than outsiders might assume? Let's touch down on a touchy topic - DevRel Job Hopping! Checkouts Aisha Blake * Thirsty Sword Lesbians roleplaying game (https://evilhat.com/product/thirsty-sword-lesbians/) Chloe Condon * Salute Your Skorts podcast (https://saluteyourskorts.com/) Mandy Moore: * Greater than Code podcast (https://www.greaterthancode.com) (sponsorship opportunities: mandy@devreps.com) * Release Holistic Recovery (releaseholisticrecovery.com) Wesley Faulkner * Radical Candor (https://amzn.to/3AHv27s) by Kim Scott * Just Work (https://amzn.to/3AGFTie) by Kim Scott * Just Work podcast (https://www.justworktogether.com/podcast) PJ Hagerty * Spotify for Developers: On the Air! (https://open.spotify.com/show/1POdFZRZbvbqqillRxMr2z) * the record (https://www.xboygeniusx.com/) (new album from boygenius) Mary Thengvall * But What If We're Wrong (https://amzn.to/3oSV0T7) by Chuck Klosterman Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Artwork photo by Nick Fewings (https://unsplash.com/@jannerboy62?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@jannerboy62?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) Special Guests: Aisha Blake, Chloe Condon, and Mandy Moore.

Listen in as PJ and Wesley process their conversation with Erin, PJ Metz, and Jared and the changes in the tech employment landscape over the last few months. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

We've seen a lot of strange habits when it comes to hiring DevRel folks over the past few years. But recently, a surprising phenomenon has occurred: a large-scale layoff or re-org leading to many folks in DevRel being suddenly unemployed. What are the knock-on effects we can expect from this? What are folks impacted by this doing as next steps? Checkouts Jarek Jarzebowski * Developer Ambassadors Motivation Survey 2023 (https://www.advocu.com/developer-ambassadors-motivation-survey-2023?trk=public_post_comment-text) * "10% Happier: How I Tamed the Voice in My Head, Reduced Stress Without Losing My Edge, and Found Self-Help That Actually Works--A True Story" (https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/10-happier-how-i-tamed-the-voice-in-my-head-reduced-stress-without-losing-my-edge-and-found-self-help-that-actually-works--a-true-story_dan---harris/3223663/item/34958913/#edition=7654643&idiq=4167572) by Dan Harris PJ Metz * Current music obsession: Dan Mason - Electric Elevator 2: Second Floor (https://youtu.be/ovpO-c0DpEI) * Projectdiscovery.io (Projectdiscovery.io) Erin Mikail Staples * GenSpace NYC (https://www.genspace.org/) * DevRelish (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IICDgnu4-PI) * Labelstud.io (https://labelstud.io/) » integrations library and hugging face spaces Wesley Faulkner * Engineer, Male Engineer (https://www.facebook.com/845933925525600/posts/pfbid025SXD6Y2vGke5znJ8NxrczbZyEFHr2XvvVDYGTqYvTE9BK1b57fiuYVYiB3NoGswfl/) PJ Hagerty * "Do You Talk Funny?: 7 Comedy Habits to Become a Better (and Funnier) Public Speaker (https://www.amazon.com/Do-You-Talk-Funny-David-Nihill-audiobook/dp/B018F3FTZY)" by David Nihil * Spotify AI DJ (https://newsroom.spotify.com/2023-03-08/spotify-new-personalized-ai-dj-how-it-works/) * Open Sourcing Mental Health (OSMHhelp.org) - get ready for Mental Health Awareness month in May Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Artwork photo by Clem Onojeghuo (https://unsplash.com/@clemono?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@clemono?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) Special Guests: Erin Mikail Staples, Jarek Jarzebowski, and PJ Metz.

Wes and Jason talk through some of the nuance around using AI in devrel, including how it can benefit us and areas to be cautious in. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

As the world of Artificial Intelligence continues to evolve,it's increasingly evident that AI tools are rapidly changing the way we work in Developer Relations & Community Building. Tools like ChatGPT and GitHub Copilot are transforming the landscape of our work by .. automating tedious and repetitive tasks ..providing valuable insights and analytics..and even helping to generate content on our behalf. However, the integration of AI into our industry also raises new questions. Can AI truly enhance the work of DevRel practitioners and allow us to focus on different challenges.. or will it end up diminishing our creativity and impact on supporting developers? How do we make sure AI is used ethically and responsibly? And what impact will it have on the future of not only DevRel, but software development in general? Join us as we explore the exciting world of AI in Developer Relations on this episode of "The Community Pulse". Checkouts Chris DeMars * 3 Ways Feature Flags Could Have Saved Jurassic Park (https://www.split.io/blog/3-ways-feature-flags-could-have-saved-jurassic-park/) * I'll be at Orlando Codecamp (https://orlandocodecamp.com/) in March; DEVNEXUS (https://devnexus.com/) in Atlanta, Georgia, in April; and Chain React (https://chainreactconf.com/) in Portland, Oregon, in May. Rizel Scarlett * DevRel for Black Developers (https://www.youtube.com/live/8AZyqiQ3RKc?feature=share) * Finding Me by Viola Davis (https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Me-Memoir-Viola-Davis/dp/0063037327) * BlackRel Discord - a discord for Black folks in Developer Relations - sign up form (https://tinyurl.com/blackrel-discord) Wesley Faulkner * Elk Alpha (https://elk.zone) - A nimble Mastodon web client * The ChatGPT Cheat Sheet (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UOfN0iB_A0rEGYc2CbYnpIF44FupQn2I/view) Jason Hand * 8 Things You Didn't Know you Could do with GitHub CoPilot (https://github.blog/2022-09-14-8-things-you-didnt-know-you-could-do-with-github-copilot/) * Platonic : How the Science of Attachment Can Help You Make--and Keep--Friends (https://www.amazon.com/Platonic-Science-Attachment-Make-Keep-Friends/dp/0593331893) by Dr. Marisa G. Franco * Learning From Incidents Conference (https://www.learningfromincidents.io/) (in Denver) * The Darker Side of ChatGPT (https://towardsdatascience.com/not-all-rainbows-and-sunshine-the-darker-side-of-chatgpt-75917472b9c) * ChatGPT for writing technical articles and documentation (https://blog.almaer.com/developer-docs-genai-%e2%9d%a4%ef%b8%8f/) * Developer Docs + GenAI (https://blog.almaer.com/developer-docs-genai-%e2%9d%a4%ef%b8%8f/) AI Tools Caption: For Talking Videos (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/captions-for-talking-videos/id1541407007) NVIDIA: Eye Contact (https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/broadcasting/broadcast-app/) Descript (https://www.descript.com/) Grammarly (https://www.grammarly.com/) Interesting Articles * The Darker Side of ChatGPT (https://towardsdatascience.com/not-all-rainbows-and-sunshine-the-darker-side-of-chatgpt-75917472b9c) * ChatGPT for writing technical articles and documentation (https://blog.almaer.com/developer-docs-genai-%e2%9d%a4%ef%b8%8f/) * Developer Docs + GenAI (https://blog.almaer.com/developer-docs-genai-%e2%9d%a4%ef%b8%8f/) Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Artwork photo by Emiliano Vittoriosi (https://unsplash.com/@emilianovittoriosi?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@emilianovittoriosi?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) Special Guests: Chris DeMars and Rizel Scarlett.

To kick off 2023 in style, PJ spoke with several DevRel practitioners to get their advice to fellow folks in DevRel and people new to the industry looking for more information on how to do the best they can. Ranging from practical, to witty, to inspirational, these words of wisdom should help anyone on their journey. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Photo by frame harirak (https://unsplash.com/it/@framemily?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/it/@framemily?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText)

We're somehow already at the end of 2022, which means it's time for another end-of-year wrap-up from your Community Pulse hosts! Thanks so much to all of you who have listened (and participated!) as we've explored topics from content to speaking, Developer Experience, DevRel strategy, and more. Join Mary, Jason, PJ, and Wesley as we talk about some of the trends we noticed during 2022 and what we think might happen in 2023. Relevant Links * Interesting discussion (https://twitter.com/bryanl/status/1596512391264894976) about people leaving Twitter - where are they going and what's the potential impact? * DevRel Survey 2022 Results (https://www.stateofdeveloperrelations.com/_files/ugd/383279_5b2cd6c61868495b98d2dac2f52b1d30.pdf) 2022 Episodes * DevRel: What's Your Story (https://www.communitypulse.io/65-devrel-whats-your-story) - LIVE episode * Your Content, Their Brand: episode (https://www.communitypulse.io/66-your-content-their-brand) & after pulse (https://www.communitypulse.io/66ap) - Amara Graham & Henry Teegarden * Grab the Mic: episode (https://www.communitypulse.io/67-grab-the-mic) & after pulse (https://www.communitypulse.io/67ap) - Kat Cosgrove & VM Brasseur * Moving from Execution to Strategy: episode (https://www.communitypulse.io/68-moving-from-execution-to-strategy) & after pulse (https://www.communitypulse.io/68ap) - Ashley Willis & Mo McElaney * So Long, SJ, and thanks for all the Quips (https://www.communitypulse.io/69-so-long-sj) * Rediscovering In-Person Conferences: episode (https://www.communitypulse.io/70-rediscovering-in-person-conferences) & after pulse (https://www.communitypulse.io/70ap) - Jeff Blankenburg & Kerri Miller * DevRel Survey 2022: episode (https://www.communitypulse.io/71-devrel-survey-2022) & after pulse (https://www.communitypulse.io/71ap) - Caroline Lewko * Where do you get started with Developer Experience?: episode (https://www.communitypulse.io/72-developer-experience) & after pulse (https://www.communitypulse.io/72ap) - Amara Graham & Kurt Kemple * DevRel Beyond Developers: episode (https://www.communitypulse.io/73-devrel-beyond-developers) & after pulse (https://www.communitypulse.io/73ap)- Jennifer Ritzinger & Matty Stratton Past EOY Wrap-ups * 2017 (https://www.communitypulse.io/19-2017review) * 2018 (https://www.communitypulse.io/31-2018wrapup) * 2019 (https://www.communitypulse.io/43-2019-closing-thoughts) * 2020 (https://www.communitypulse.io/54-end-of-year) * 2021 (https://www.communitypulse.io/64-2021-wrap-up) Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Photo by Choong Deng Xiang (https://unsplash.com/@dengxiangs?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@dengxiangs?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText)

Jason, Mary, PJ and Wesley further the discussion on devrel communities and how we can serve our changing scope of user.

The word “developer” has always been evolving, from assembly to systems, operations, and beyond. The term “Developer Relations” has traditionally meant we're engaging with people who consider themselves full-time professional developers. However, over the past few years, the term “developer” has expanded to encompass more than this professional developer persona. These days, some DevRel teams advocate for, evangelize to, and create communities for SREs, Enterprise Architects, students, or decision-makers in early-stage startups, in addition to low-code or citizen developers. While these people may fall outside of the traditional developer persona, many DevRel teams are looking to support these people who are using our technology for one-off solutions to their problems. We're interested in learning more about whether this changes the scope of DevRel, and if so, how. Checkouts Jennifer Ritzinger * How to Make a Monster: Hollywood Special Effects Makeup With Morgan Muta - Atlas Obscura Experiences (https://www.atlasobscura.com/experiences/special-effects-makeup-course) Matty Stratton * Keyoxide (https://keyoxide.org/) * The Storyteller (https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Storyteller-Audiobook/0063076128) - Audiobook by Dave Grohl * Fall Guys (https://www.fallguys.com/) - silly game I play with my kids Wesley Faulkner * LumaFusion (https://luma-touch.com/lumafusion-on-android/) PJ Hagerty * Clearword (https://clearword.com/) - actions items and the important part of meetings, not just transcription * Spy X Family (https://www.crunchyroll.com/series/G4PH0WXVJ/spy-x-family?from=spyxfamily&utm_source=ip_cr&utm_medium=content_crunchyroll&utm_campaign=titlemarketing_all_spyxfamily) * Don't get COVID Jason Hand * YouTube Shorts (https://www.youtube.com/c/MicrosoftDeveloper/shorts) - on Microsoft Learn Shows & Events * CrossClip (https://crossclip.com) * ArtistWorks (https://www.artistworks.com) Mary Thengvall * PLG + CLG (https://www.commonroom.io/blog/use-product-led-and-community-led-growth-together-for-better-business-outcomes/) Artwork photo by Tim Mossholder (https://unsplash.com/@timmossholder?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@timmossholder?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Special Guests: Jennifer Ritzinger and Matty Stratton.

Mary, Wesley, and PJ spend time considering their conversation with Amara and Kurt and the implications for a great developer experience.

Developer Experience (DX) has been a buzzword for the past few years and it's only growing in popularity. But what is it exactly, and how is it different from Developer Relations or Developer Advocacy? Also, when we say “Developer Experience” is everyone actually referring to the same topic? Or are there multiple approaches? Checkouts Amara Graham * Highlights/admonitions come to GitHub (https://github.com/community/community/discussions/16925) * Holo Taco nail polish (https://www.holotaco.com/) - not new but wonderful Kurt Kemple * Star Citizen (https://robertsspaceindustries.com/star-citizen), a space game I've been playing Wesley Faulkner * Setting up for success in your next role - where to start (https://www.devrelx.com/post/setting-up-for-success-in-your-next-role-where-to-start) * Lego Masters (https://www.lego.com/en-us/page/lego-masters) PJ Hagerty * Spanish Love Songs - Brave Faces (https://spanishlovesongs.com/products/sls0bfetdc-lp) * LOTR: Rings of Power (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QH98YG1?ref=dvm_us_dl_sl_go_ROPLAU22_mkw_sX3mket3F-dc&mrntrk=pcrid_618715577193_slid__pgrid_144239414807_pgeo_9027222_x__ptid_kwd-295270512187&gclid=CjwKCAjw79iaBhAJEiwAPYwoCL2PP1kE-ndklqDhYkkOkz5DaBHTeYp2bBbSJPKZS2Be6q7m7Wk7TRoCeHwQAvD_BwE) Mary Thengvall * The 1-3-5 rule (https://www.timedoctor.com/blog/1-3-5-rule/) * Derry Girls (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derry_Girls) (Netflix show) Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Special Guests: Amara Graham and Kurt Kemple.

Our hosts continue to reflect on the results of this year's DevRel survey and provide further insights into the data and the industry. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

By the varied nature of everything that falls under the umbrella of Developer Relations, it can be difficult to get down to the trends and movements of everything we do. Add to that the bespoke nature of many DevRel programs, and we really need to work to discover what's happening in the world we live and work in. Fortunately, a survey was done, and in this episode we will discover some of the results and find out a bit of the why we do what we do when we say we do DevRel. Checkouts Caroline Lewko * Five Little Indians (https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/52214103) by Michelle Good * 2022 Survey and previous survey (available at www.Stateofdeveloperrelations.com) Jason Hand * No Code Micro Workshop (https://jhand.co/nocode) * Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals (https://www.amazon.com/Four-Thousand-Weeks-Management-Mortals/dp/B08XZY5ZF7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2DQK78HTQFNLF&keywords=4%2C000+weeks&qid=1663342995&sprefix=4%2C000+weeks%2Caps%2C116&sr=8-1) by Oliver Burkeman Wesley Faulkner * SXSW (https://www.sxsw.com/) * Neurodiversity in DevRel (https://www.polywork.com/clubs/neurodiversity-in-devrel) PJ Hagerty * 23rd Anniversary of the American Football self-titled LP (https://www.amazon.com/music/player/albums/B000X5KLRO?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=) - great emo/proto-mathrock album * Weapons of Math Destruction (https://www.amazon.com/Weapons-Math-Destruction-Increases-Inequality/dp/0553418815) by Cathy O'Neil * Kings Highwaymen (https://www.instagram.com/kingshwymenwny/) Artwork photo by Алекс Арцибашев (https://unsplash.com/@lxrcbsv?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@lxrcbsv?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Special Guest: Caroline Lewko.

Our hosts reflect on their conversation in Episode 70 with Kerri and Jeff and cover key takeaways on in-person conferences and their role in DevRel. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

Before the pandemic, we, as DevRel practitioners, focused most of our speaking efforts on in-person events. Now we have the option of speaking at in-person, virtual, and hybrid conferences. With this experience now in our rearview, let's look ahead to rediscovering what the advantages are and what we get out of in-person events knowing what the other side looks like. Checkouts Kerri Miller * Managing so Everyone Can Contribute (https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/mecc/) * Tiny Tools conf (https://aescripts.com/tiny-tools/) Jeff Blankenburg * CakeTime (http://alexa.design/caketime) - build your first Alexa app! * Stir Trek (https://stirtrek.com/) - Movie & a conference! Wesley Faulkner * 9th Developer Relations Survey (2022) (https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/DevRelSurvey9D) PJ Hagerty * CallofConduct.com (https://www.callofconduct.com/) is now in beta - for all your Code of Conduct reporting needs * For All Mankind (https://tv.apple.com/us/show/for-all-mankind/umc.cmc.6wsi780sz5tdbqcf11k76mkp7) series Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. [Banner photo by Headway (https://unsplash.com/@headwayio?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@headwayio?utm_source=unsplash&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=creditCopyText) Special Guests: Jeff Blankenburg and Kerri Miller.

In this episode, we say goodbye to our dear friend SJ Morris as co-host of the Community Pulse. Like many of us, sometimes the business of life and work makes it difficult to make time for the things we enjoy or even just time to take care of ourselves. We wanted to take the opportunity to say goodbye to SJ and also to talk about what folks can do to honestly and boldly confront their own burnout in DevRel. Checkouts Jason Hand * Discogs (https://www.discogs.com) - to inventory SJ's vinyl record collection. * Stolen Focus: Why You Can't Pay Attention – and How to Think Deeply Again (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0593138511/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) by Johann Hari * Think Again: The Power of Knowing What You Don't Know (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1984878107/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) by Adam Grant Mary Thengvall * Fi GPS dog collar. Use this referral code (https://shop.tryfi.com/r/GG2GJ9/?utm_source=referrals) to get a free “band” (collar) of your choice. SJ Morris * SJ re-discovers vinyl - aka my checkout is just the concept of vinyl records played on turntables PJ Hagerty * Kendrick Lamar's new album - Mr Morale & The Big Steppers * Polyvinyl Records Garage Sale (https://www.polyvinylrecords.com/store/garage_sale_lps) for Pride Month * The Handmaid's Tale (https://www.amazon.com/Handmaids-Tale-Margaret-Atwood/dp/038549081X/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3WOJVBX1YVSB&keywords=the+handmaids+tale&qid=1654602516&sprefix=the+handmaids+tale%2Caps%2C258&sr=8-4) by Margaret Atwood Wesley: * What neurodiversity means for DevRel (https://twitter.com/wesley83/status/1529482672711647243) * The Long Game: How to be a Long-Term Thinker in a Short-Term World (https://www.amazon.com/Long-Game-Long-Term-Thinker-Short-Term/dp/164782057X) by Dorie Clark Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

Our hosts reflect on their conversation in Episode 68 with Mo and Ashley and cover key takeaways on when to make moves in leadership positions in DevRel. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

In the beginning, folks in DevRel had few paths outside of being an Individual Contributor. As our field has evolved, more opportunities have arisen for more strategic roles. DevRel leadership is one of the most sought after roles for many organizations in recent months. What should we look for when considering making the move to strategist versus the out front IC? What can we learn from those who have made that journey? Checkouts Mo McElaney * Heavy in planning mode for my garden this summer! I live in zone 5a so I'm still a month away from being outside the frost zone, but my tulips are popping up, I'm starting my veggie seeds, and starting to prep my garden beds. Ashley Willis * Lara Hogan resources (https://larahogan.me/) * Plucky cards (https://shop.beplucky.com/products/the-plucky-1-1-starter-pack) to use during 1:1s Jason Hand * DevOps on Azure (https://www.youtube.com/c/AzureDevOps) * Azure DevOps Demo Generator (http://jhand.dev/ProjectGenerator) * Azure Cosmos DB Conf (https://www.gotcosmos.com/conf) * Tiny Tina's Wonderlands: Official Site (https://playwonderlands.2k.com/) Mary Thengvall * Energy Management for Newer Managers (https://cate.blog/2022/03/21/energy-management-for-newer-managers/) * Homebird (https://www.amazon.com/stores/WelcometoHomebird/page/7F78757D-2D1E-4BF6-BC15-7456E5943009?ref_=ast_bln) - Awesome window bird feeder and the first visitor has arrived (https://twitter.com/mary_grace/status/1514778133223804934)! PJ Hagerty * DevRelate blog - metrics for success (https://devrelate.io/post/20-measuring-up-metrics-in-developer-relations) * OSMH not OSMI (http://OSMHhelp.org) * Go Raptors! Wesley Faulkner * Podcast: Neurodiversity & Intersectionality: A Disclosure Challenge (https://www.peatworks.org/podcast-neurodiversity-intersectionality-a-disclosure-challenge/) Special Guests: Ashley Willis and Mo McElaney.

Jason and PJ recap what they learned from our guests about public speaking - from conception and development all the way to delivery. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

A big part of traditional DevRel has always been speaking in front of an audience. Whether at a virtual meetup or live at a large conference, it can be complicated to navigate coming up with an idea, building a talk, getting it accepted somewhere, and actually delivering the thing. We wanted to take a look at some of the tips, tricks, and things you need to know to be successful in finding your way to becoming a great DevRel speaker! Checkouts Kat Cosgrove * NONS SL660 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nonscamera/sl660-interchangeable-lens-slr-analogue-instant-camera) Vicky Brasseur * Harvard Census II (https://derechodelared.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/LFResearch_Harvard_Census_II.pdf) * #YarnIsForEveryone (https://twitter.com/hashtag/YarnIsForEveryone) Jason Hand * DevOpsDays Rockies (https://devopsdays.org/events/2022-denver/welcome/) * Azure Cosmos DB conf (https://www.gotcosmos.com/conf) PJ Hagerty * American Beauty/Innerlove split 7” (https://www.stereogum.com/2151217/american-beauty-stage-fright-innerlove-murder/music/) * Wikipedia Devrel page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developer_relations) Photo by Kane Reinholdtsen (https://unsplash.com/@kanereinholdtsen) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@kanereinholdtsen) Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Special Guests: Kat Cosgrove and VM (Vicky) Brasseur.

PJ, Jason, Wesley, and SJ sit down to discuss what they learned from our guests on content creation and ownership, as well as setting expectations for this with the brands we work with. Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.

When we create content, the ideas and concepts typically come from ourselves or our community members. But when we work for a larger organization, things get complicated. Some of us create content as a part of our day-to-day role; some of us create content outside of work hours. Now that we as DevRel professionals produce even more online content to connect with our community, there's some ambiguity about the ownership of this content. To take a look at some of these questions, we've invited a couple of guests familiar with this space: Amara Graham, Head of Developer Experience at Camunda and Henry Teegarden, Esquire, from Teegarden Law. FULL DISCLOSURE: This podcast is not meant to be taken as legal advice. We are sharing our opinions and thoughts. If you have specific questions about your content, we recommend contacting a legal professional. Checkouts Amara Graham * Stumbled on a TikTok of a new nurse grad (https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdkbVCvf/) talking about her experience as a deaf nurse Wesley Faulkner * You're Doing It Wrong — Recruiting a DevRel (https://thenewstack.io/youre-doing-it-wrong-recruiting-a-devrel/) SJ Morris * Wordle! Just kidding * HubSpot Culture Code (https://blog.hubspot.com/blog/tabid/6307/bid/34234/the-hubspot-culture-code-creating-a-company-we-love.aspx) PJ Hagerty * Cowboy Bebop live action (Netflix) Cover art photo by Patrik Michalicka (https://unsplash.com/@patrikmichalicka) on Unsplash (https://unsplash.com/@patrikmichalicka) Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village. Special Guests: Amara Graham and Henry Teegarden.

Enjoy the podcast? Please take a few moments to leave us a review on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/community-pulse/id1218368182?mt=2) and follow us on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3I7g5WfMSgpWu38zZMjet?si=565TMb81SaWwrJYbAIeOxQ), or leave a review on one of the other many podcasting sites that we're on! Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue to produce episodes every month. Like all things Community, this too takes a village.