The Patrick Madrid Show

Patrick opens today's episode by honestly addressing a listener's concerns about a past show, emphasizing his respect for women’s involvement in both church and civic life and clarifying misunderstandings about his views. He then thoughtfully answers questions that move from the meaning of faith and works in Christian life to the mysteries surrounding Judas Iscariot’s fate, providing scriptural and historical context while guiding listeners seeking spiritual renewal or deeper understanding. Melanie (email) - After hearing you go along with Sherry’s claim that the problem began when women got the right to vote, I’m reconsidering listening to your show and donating to Relevant Radio, because if I’m not worthy to vote, I’m left wondering whether I’m worthy to pray, attend Mass, or even vote on church remodeling. (00:49) Raphael (16-years-old) - James 2 v 14 talks about faith and works. I am Catholic and go to a Christian school. How do I describe my position? (10:20) What’s Wrong With Bowing to the Priest at Mass? https://patrickmadrid.substack.com/p/whats-wrong-with-bowing-to-the-priest (22:04) Matt - I am not Catholic but raised Russian Orthodox. I have always wondered about Mark 5:30 where Jesus heals the woman afflicted by bleeding. Did Jesus have an innate reserve of power he controlled? How did this work? (25:23) Marshall (email) - Why doesn’t the Catholic Church allow divorce on the grounds of adultery, as Matthew 5:32 seems to permit, when in my wife’s annulment the only available grounds was alcoholism even though her former husband had been unfaithful? Did Judas go to hell?

Patrick guides callers through questions on prayer, confession after decades away, and the transformative grace found in returning to the Church, highlighting moving personal testimonies of healing and renewed hope. Listeners hear honest guidance, practical steps, and the reassurance that no one is ever too far gone for forgiveness and spiritual renewal. Shirley - I went to Catholic school, and we prayed to St. Anthony. (00:24) Joseph - Why did Jesus spend time in hell? (08:41) Did Jesus Go to Hell? https://patrickmadrid.substack.com/p/did-jesus-go-to-hell *Kathy - I have been away from the Church for 20 years and I’ve started going back to Mass. What is the best approach to going to Confession? (15:07) Joshua - Isn't the fact that Moses wrote down what he did show that Protestants are right about their faith claims? (25:45) Aaron – I was away from the Church 20 years. I was happy to hear you make this recommendation. (29:29) Yolie - Mother Theresa experienced a lot of darkness before dying. What does Jesus mean when he said, “my God my God, why have you forsaken me?” (32:47) Patrick in Atlanta - We have Dominicans, Franciscans. What are these? Can you explain these religious groups? Are they denominations? (39:25) Nick - How does the Church feel about tattoos? (43:32) Tom - About the last line in the Memorare, “hear and answer me”, we always pray to Mary for intercession, but why pray this way?

Patrick shares heartfelt reflections on aging, loss, and faith, recounting his father’s journey with Alzheimer’s and his mother’s cancer, while listeners call in to offer stories of love, hope, and spiritual endurance. The discussion explores lessons learned from sudden and gradual loss, the importance of preparation for life’s uncertainties, and the healing role of faith and community support. Through gratitude, vulnerability, and practical wisdom, Patrick connects deeply with those longing to return to a vibrant spiritual life, inspiring listeners to cherish every moment and recommit to prayer and reconciliation. Patrick shares the pain and difficult journey many of us take as our parents get older (00:36) Barbara - My husband experienced what you are talking about. I was frustrated that I couldn't be there for him. Is there any counseling service in Church that would help these people? (18:14) Carol - Relevant Radio has brought me deeper in faith and what you are talking about is amazing. (22:52) Rhonda - What happens to your soul and body when you die? My mother-in law passed recently from Alzheimer’s. I believe things will get better. (26:40) Nancy - My situation with my mother for Alzheimer’s was not sad. My parents were married for 73 years. I saw it as a blessing. (35:33) Sandy - You recommended the ABC's of choosing a good husband. I got the book and gave it to my daughter. She had 3 objections. Can you help me address these? (41:35) Originally aired on September 8, 2026

Patrick Madrid brings listeners thoughtful commentary on Respect Life Month, exploring both prayerful action against abortion pill use and the importance of choosing language that honors life and dignity. Questions about faith, Catholic tradition, and moral challenges spark heartfelt exchanges, while personal reflections and lighthearted moments weave through the episode, from the meaning behind France as the Church’s “eldest daughter” to the encouragement of returning to prayer and spiritual practices no matter the hour. Stories and caller insights provide encouragement for anyone seeking spiritual renewal or a way back to the Church. During Respect Life Month, Catholics urged to pray, take action to stop use of abortion pill - https://www.osvnews.com/during-respect-life-month-catholics-urged-to-pray-take-action-to-stop-use-of-abortion-pill/ (00:55) Mary (email) - How early is too early to say evening prayers if you aren't going to bed right away? (05:34) Mary - I volunteered at pregnancy resource clinic. Should we use the word 'preborn' instead 'unborn'? (15:17) Joseph (email) - Do humans need sleep because of original sin? Ditto for needing to eat. (22:15) Jenna - In our home, we don't use word 'disability'. If we want to have respect for all life, we also have to include this. (25:15) Brian (email) - Does the nickname “Old Hairy Legs” for Satan have a historical basis in St. Jerome’s writings and the biblical references to “hairy ones” or goat-like demons? (27:43) Jordan (email) - How should a Catholic answer the claim that God acted wrongly by killing large numbers of people, including children, in the Old Testament, such as the firstborn of Egypt? (31:34) Kathy - France is called the eldest daughter of the Catholic Church. How did this come to be? (42:00) Adam - There is a liturgical problem in my Church. I am an altar server. What should I do? Not sure I can keep on doing this. (46:56)

Patrick Madrid opens this hour by fielding heartfelt calls from listeners grappling with the challenges of living their faith in today’s world, from family tensions over weddings and Mass preferences to the struggle of faithfully attending church when unable to receive communion. He offers practical and compassionate guidance, weaving in reflections on honoring tradition, maintaining reverence, and finding unity amid personal and communal trials. Listeners encounter encouragement, moments of vulnerable honesty, and reminders of the deeper meaning behind church practices and relationships. Mike - I think Mary was the first influencer ever. She has millions of followers. Patricia - There is friction in my family. We are going to wedding but not talking. How can I break the ice and be kind? (04:44) Larry - As a lay person, what am I allowed to do during Eucharistic Adoration or in general? (13:40) John - About purifying the vessels: I think what the altar server may be confusing that the vessels are purified during Mass. After Mass, purified vessels are washed. Purification has already taken place. (20:45) Prince - Who are the 7 Archangels? (24:47) Barry - My wife and I disagree on attending Latin Mass. My wife wants to go to Novus Ordo. What can I do? (25:51) Sandy - I can't receive Communion and I’m trying to fix this. I feel like I get enough from Mass. Should I still go to Mass? (33:09) Mary Ellen - My husband went to Novus Ordo, but I had a difficult time there. I do wish I had gone with him before he passed. (37:12) John - I have a co-worker who is into using the Bible as a counter and predicts the end times using numbers in the Bible. How can I respond to him? (40:16)

The conversation focuses on the significance of gestures, rituals, and language changes within the Catholic Mass, exploring how these practices shape spiritual experience and community unity. One concept discussed is the struggle of those who feel distanced from confession or church traditions, with heartfelt encouragement offered through real-life stories, guidance on sacramental participation, and advice for families facing personal crises of faith or health. A key theme that emerges highlights the importance of returning to core traditions while balancing respect for individual circumstances and the healing found in community, prayer, and honest questions. Steve - Should I stay standing for priest before he gets to the pulpit? (00:42) Joe - If someone lives together as brother and sister, and goes to Confession, can they still receive Communion? (03:28) Angelina - Some people are bowing to the priest before giving the sign of peace. (06:53) Kenneth - Is 'He himself took Bread' valid words for the consecration? (10:45) Gerry - Are we supposed to kneel during the Lamb of God prayer? Should I genuflect to the priest as he’s walking by? (18:29) Carla - If we say, 'Lord, I am not worthy', then why do we need to go to Confession? (25:06) Kate – What do we do when we attend a mass where there are no kneelers? (28:35) Rita – Can my grandson go to heaven if he is not confirmed? (34:30) Jarod – Why do Orthodox churches have different books in their bible? (39:50) Jim - There are kneelers, but no one kneels at this parish I go to. Are we bowing to the bible or the priest during procession? (46:23)

Patrick welcomes listeners with warmth and wit as he discusses the rapid advances in technology, especially Elon Musk’s new vision-implant promises and their potential impacts, both inspiring and unsettling. Conversations with callers explore not only the ethical boundaries of merging technology and biology but also the bigger questions of envy, faith, and personal integrity in a world eager for easy answers. Throughout the hour, Patrick’s thoughtful engagement brings humor and insight to challenging debates about science, privacy, and spiritual perspective. Audio: Elon Musk "In the next 6 to 12 months, we're going to implant the first vision devices" - https://x.com/Q_TheStormRider/status/2104916633592762503?s=20 (02:32) Sharon - I think Elon Musk is almost as cool as Cyrus. (17:21) Mike - Elon Musk also came out against elements of transgender ideology. That’s why I think everyone turned against him. (22:03) Audio: Harvard students show Meta glasses can DOX ANYONE in seconds raising MASSIVE privacy and security concerns - https://x.com/ExxAlerts/status/1964372904797478995 (30:34) Terry - If special operators in military received implants, who would own them? Would they actually belong to the person that received them? (34:38) Rick - Why doesn't the Church allow ashes to be spread, yet they do allow body parts of saints to be separated from body? (42:12)

Patrick opens the conversation with listeners sharing heartfelt concerns about reverence, modesty, and the presence of women on the altar at Mass, sparking thoughtful exchanges on tradition, parish culture, and the unique value of male and female roles in the Church. Callers offer passionate perspectives, personal experiences, and scriptural references while Patrick respectfully balances opinions about dress codes, the evolution of parish practices, and the broader impact on faith communities. Through lively dialogue, the episode highlights the deep longing for meaning, respect, and spiritual renewal in worship, especially for those yearning to reconnect with their Catholic identity. Sherry - In my parish, dress is very casual and I feel very uncomfortable. We pray for increase in vocations, yet things seem kind of sloppy or reverent. Shouldn't get females off the altar? (02:22) Sam – Some people don’t have money to dress nice Mary – There should be a dress code (20:02) DeAnna - This topic is a thorn in my side. I had to turn off the program. I am not well off or poor. I think woman calling in with this topic has money for cell phones. I doubt Mother Teresa would be wearing pearls. This is what turns people away (23:53) Kathy - Women have no place on the altar. What do you think about lectors? I think she might be stereotyping this. I think overall everyone needs to be respectful too. (33:14) Jose - All Eucharistic Ministers at my Church have to wear an alb. They all dress in an alb. That could be a solution to add more reverence. (39:25) Andy - I think the nature of men and women and the way God created us. There are a lot of men and women compromised by the feminist movement. Men and women are not equal but complimentary. (42:46)

Patrick Madrid explores the significance of reverence and appropriate attire at Mass, sharing heartfelt listener testimonies on faith, modesty, and community expectations. The conversation covers the realities of parish life, differing viewpoints on lay participation, socioeconomic concerns, and the emotional journey of those finding their way back to deeper Catholic practices. Listeners offer candid reflections, sometimes emotional, sometimes practical, on topics ranging from altar server roles to dress codes and how personal circumstance, tradition, and dignity each find their place in the church. Mary (email) - I absolutely agree with the comment about being an occasion of sin to others if dressed inappropriately. (00:41) Contraella (email) - I don't like having laity in the sanctuary in any way, with the exception of altar boys. Email - I believe we all make a choice with the clothes we wear—yet too often we fail to recognize the sacred place we are entering. Caryl (email) - At our parish, the Eucharistic Ministers wear a white robe that covers to the ankles. Tracy - I think there are too many excuses being thrown out here. We need to recognize the presence of God. (06:56) Jessica - I am in OCIA now and agree that the Church can be a bit too casual. Anthony - Is there any correlation with vocations to the priesthood and parishes that have more male servers? I remember stopping altar serving because they added more female servers. (17:01) Paul - Whether it’s weekend or weekday mass, I think you should be dressed up (24:05) Stephanie - What are some young girl roles in the Church? My daughter wants to be involved and be an altar server, but I haven't allowed her. (25:07) Robert - When you are poor, sometimes you cannot afford to dress up and what you come to mass in is your best (30:53) Isabella - Girls need to see role models in the mass so they can strive to be religious sisters (36:12) Michelle - Is water okay during the one hour fast before communion? (40:01) Brian - I think this goes deeper than just dress. I think that radicals who want women priests might create this atmosphere. Radicalizing changes in Church and they dress immodest on purpose (41:14) Lisa - Don't judge those who dress a certain way because they might not be able wear something else and I wanted to be a part of the mass and that excludes women. (43:47) Wade – It’s hard to focus with the way women are dressed at mass (48:12)

On Hour 1 of today's Patrick Madrid Show: Patrick - Bring the Eucharist to nursing home - can someone not Catholic receive communion if they desire it? Break 1 Laura - is it okay to change a prayer to make it more kid friendly? Andy - how does Jesus fulfill Hannakuh? Break 2 Leah - is it okay to wear a rosary as a bracelet? Kurt - 1 Timothy 2:5 - Why does the Catholic Church rely on Mary when she is not a mediator?

On Hour 2 of today's Patrick Madrid Show: Robert - Does Ezekiel passage relate to Abortion in today's culture? Email – Linda: I fell deeply in love with a man other than my husband. This hurts me and destroys my peace. My husband doesn’t know about this other man but senses my indifference at home. What can I do? Break 1 Audio – Live action audio 1/3 of Gen Z has already died Kathy - If marital act is done with love can it be considered holy? Break 2 Scott - A work assignment goes against my faith, and I am not sure I can do it.

On today's Hour 3 of the Patrick Madrid Show: Supporting Palestinian Christians in the Holy Land. John – I asked Planned Parenthood supporters about how anyone could take the limbs off their own child and kill it that way, and thinking it is ok. Did I handle this right? George - I’ve heard that we should not stock up for the end of the world because suffering is good but if you are prepared you can help others. Nadia - Why does the church allow for extraordinary ministers? Joe - Hitler survived several assassination attempts. would you say that God was on his side? (Good morning Patrick I know you are going to be the one to untangle this one) Break 2 Bill - About someone using AI to get through medical school. William - My opinion on Antichrist.

Email – Karen: Patrick's comments on Denzel Washington's "Fences" Patrick talks more about Denzel Washington’s performance in "Fences" Lois - Where is a good place to get children's Bible? Break 1 Anything China is doing we are already doing when it comes to AI Email – Greg: Your Fences reference had an AI tie-in. Sherry – It was September 10. Email – Pablo: Evening of prayer and questions with Cardinal Parolin with youth Break 2 Michael - End of life care from a Catholic perspective. I am a nurse. How far I should work in order to gently push back against the death and dying process.

Casa DiSanta Brigitia Jack - How do I know that I am not deceiving myself thinking that I am doing what God wants from me? Sheila - When I pass away, where does my guardian angel go? Justin – What are your thouhgts on Messianic Judaism Mark - Pedophilia and homosexuality question Break 1 Connie- Did St. Joseph ever appear to anyone on Earth? Notes: Imitation Of Christ – Thomas Akempis Break 2 Email – Felix: Who is Jesus referring to in Luke 49:50?

Tom - What is the proper posture after receiving communion? Tim - What does 'born of the father before all ages' mean? Break 1 Amanda – We were able to add to our family after vasectomy reversal. I just found out I am pregnant with our 4th baby Break 2 Matthew - can you explain angels to me? just learning about them and want your take Laurel - Was Galileo imprisoned by the Church? Samuel - What is the best advice for someone just starting to journey towards the faith?

Patrick welcomes listeners to another lively morning on the Patrick Madrid Show, answering a wide range of calls about faith, scripture, interfaith relations, and the enduring questions of spiritual life. As Patrick responds candidly, some callers share heartfelt and emotional stories about reconnecting with their faith or seeking encouragement in everyday encounters. Thoughtful guidance and gratitude fill the air, highlighting moments of confusion, hope, and the ongoing search for truth and belonging. John Henry - Can you explain the story of Jephthah in the Bible? Nathaniel - What do you think the date of creation was? Emma - How can I tell my 7th Day Adventist friend that I can't go to her church? (09:41) Dana - How can I share my Catholic faith with the Buddhist woman who does my nails? (18:59) Sue - What are your thoughts and feelings about 'Peter's Barque'? Should I watch or listen to this? Conner - Where do we get Davidic lineage for Jesus through Mary or Joseph? Virginia - Do animals have souls? Ronnie - God is with us no matter what and never will abandon us. (45:00)

Patrick Madrid answers questions from listeners on topics ranging from biblical discrepancies, heaven, and the presence of animals in the afterlife to personal struggles with faith and Catholic practice. Thoughtful callers open up about returning to the Church, gently challenging old friends about spiritual life, and seeking clarity on the customs and meanings behind familiar prayers. The episode offers heartfelt exchanges, honest inquiries, and uplifting perspective for anyone wrestling with faith, tradition, and renewal. Maria - I have a Jewish friend who talks about Queen Esther. He complained that there is no mention of God in this book. What does this mean? (00:39) Sam - I am a recent convert. All of my friends are fallen away Catholics. What can I say to correct them? (10:31) Edward - I think you have a logical inconstancy when it comes to animals going to heaven. (21:56) Caleb - How does St. Francis of Assisi fit into what we believe about animals? (37:48) Alicia - Are we supposed to make an act of faith out loud, or in our heart, during Mass? (47:00)

Patrick Madrid welcomes heartfelt questions and candid struggles from listeners seeking clarity on theology, doubts about faith, and the complexities of returning to religious practice. As callers share their journeys, from grappling with biblical interpretation to feeling isolated in their families or longing for spiritual renewal, Patrick’s responses blend encouragement, practical advice, and genuine compassion. The episode weaves together stories of hope, honest confusion, and the tireless desire to reconnect with God and the Church. Wendy - How did Jesus bring down Moses and Elijah during the Transfiguration when the gates of heaven were not open yet? (00:35) Jodi - Is there such a thing as an indulgence that can be earned on a daily basis? (06:29) Toni - I have family members who don’t believe. I offer up Spiritual Works of Mercy for their salvation. (12:56) Vince – Is it okay to have a light show at our Cathedral? (20:39) Dave – I heard that Satan would not change his decisions if he could do it all over again (25:04) Jim - Why should Catholics not participate in IVF? (30:29) Jared - How should Catholics look at the Bible? (36:15) Lisa - How do we find out what events qualify for indulgences? (47:17)

Patrick opens the episode with reflections on faith and the legacy of Archbishop Fulton Sheen, bringing warmth and gratitude to the forefront as listeners share moments of reconnecting with the Church and personal encounters with spiritual renewal. He moves into a candid conversation about data centers, their environmental impacts, local concerns, and broader questions of community responsibility, drawing on firsthand accounts, statistics, and callers’ worries about water usage, costs, and changing landscapes. Along the way, Patrick weaves in encouragement, faith-centered problem solving, and heartfelt exchanges, grounding complex issues in lived experience and neighborly solidarity. The Historic beatification of Archbishop Fulton Sheen (00:20) Data centers use 3% of the water gold courses use – https://x.com/Liv_Boeree/status/2102442869017432104?s=20 (03:03) Dom - I am a cowboy and data centers are not good for housing and my industry. They are taking away acreage from cattle ranching. (16:33) Mary - Data Centers are offloading costs onto the population of Indiana. (26:42) Kathleen - Priest was arguing with me in the Confessional? Do I need to apologize to the priest. (36:47) James - What happened to Judas. Did he really go to Hell? (50:10)

The conversation focuses on shedding the burdens of worry, the purpose and proper timing for receiving the anointing of the sick, and the nuances of teaching children about virtues and sins, especially topics like lust. Patrick explores the complexity of predestination, explaining the Catholic perspective on free will and God’s grace, while responding to heartfelt questions about God’s knowledge, mercy, and human freedom. Audio: Put the Glass Down - The clip is from Meir Kay’s 2016 inspirational short A Powerful Lesson For A Stress Free Life – https://x.com/Rainmaker1973/status/2102605121859231878?s=20 (00:19) Todd - What is Bishop Sheen's full name? (04:24) Cathy - I went to a healing Mass and people who were not sick went up for the Anointing of the Sick. Can you go up if you are not sick? (06:10) Leah - My daughter and I have a morning lesson, and we are covering the 7 deadly sins. What is it called when you intentionally become an object of desire by being provocative? (12:01) Deborah - What is the Church's teaching on predestination? (21:11) George - God knows if you drive off the cliff you are going to die, but that doesn't mean God wants that to happen. (41:36)

Patrick Madrid opens with thoughtful responses to challenging questions about faith, suffering, and the complexities of God’s mercy, drawing from scripture and personal experience. Listeners reach out with heartfelt stories, seeking spiritual encouragement for loved ones distanced from the Church, and Patrick offers practical steps for healing and returning to prayer and confession. The episode weaves together biblical insight, family dynamics, and moments of gratitude, highlighting the ways small acts and loving persistence can lead toward hope and renewal. Bill - I am struggling with the idea that it would be better for Judas not to be born. Why would God create a Judas? (00:51) Parenting advice (08:50) Sophia – Are the godparents that we picked eligible? (20:19) Lourdes - How can I encourage my son to get back into the Church? He seems interested but I don't want to overwhelm him (26:53) Antonette (email) – It’s important to teach our kids about the importance of money (38:50) Madeline (email) - Isn't everyone in heaven beatified? (43:53) (email) - Many of these Data Centers are being built on productive farm ground; not farm ground owned by farmers, but farm ground owned by corporations or other landlords. (47:17) Emy (email) - At what I thought was daily Mass, a man I called Father led everything as usual until the homily, when he mentioned having young children and his brother deacons—should he have announced at the start that it was a Communion service instead of Mass? (48:36)

Life moves fast and the moments we have are fleeting, so don’t waste them chasing empty dopamine hits on screens. Today, we dove into how faith, perseverance, and the simple act of “keep going” can truly transform your life. We heard a heartfelt story from Brittany, who found healing and purpose returning to confession and the sacraments after years away from the Church. Her testimony is proof: no matter your past, there's always a path back to hope and renewal. If you’re struggling, remember, be not afraid, keep going, and invest your energy in what truly matters. Audio: the dots on the screen represent the months of your life if you live to 90 - https://x.com/Rainmaker1973/status/2101499084959842422/video/1?s=46 (05:47) Mary - I know Cyrus and Patrick talk a lot about 'keep going'. I think it is biblically based. (20:42) Mike - Can you recommend a good book on St. Padre Pio? (24:43) Brittany - I am really grateful for the show. I am a longtime listener. (41:02)

Patrick listens to heartfelt stories and questions from callers wrestling with distrust, wounded faith, and spiritual battles, drawing out both pain and deep gratitude for journeys back to the Catholic Church. From addressing the scars of scandal and advice for parents wary of confession, to testimony on the power of prayer and practical steps for reclaiming spiritual peace, Patrick balances honesty with encouragement. He reflects on encounters with evil and shares practical wisdom and hope, fostering a community where listeners find raw encouragement to renew trust and draw close to their faith. Dylan - My friend doesn't want his kid to go in Confession with a priest because he distrusts priests. (00:30) Maria - My daughter is in witchcraft, and I have to fight this. This has been hard on me. What can I do to overcome this? (13:54) Teri - I have always told my Protestant friends that priests don't go into the priesthood to become pedophiles. Pedophiles go into many professions, including the priesthood, but they were already that way. (20:32) Ana - When did the rules change for lay people to take the Eucharist out of the tabernacle? (24:50) Pete - My grandmother claimed she saw a lady in white appear to her at the age of five, she stepped on a thorn and was healed. Should I treat this as a miracle? (41:21) Andreanna (email) - Was it wrong of me to assign my high-functioning autistic daughter a Hail Mary, Glory Be, and Our Father after she couldn’t understand the priest’s accent during her second confession, and how can I better prepare her for the next one? Keith (email) - Is it a good strategy to respond to my friend’s constant jokes about priests by pointing out that teachers and coaches have faced similar scandals without their professions being attacked the same way?

Patrick explores the challenges in modern education, the impact of feminism on institutions, and perceptions of American culture. He addresses misconceptions about Catholicism, responds to concerns from callers, and draws on audio contributions and personal anecdotes to foster reflection on faith, tradition, and societal change. Throughout this episode, listeners hear honest questions and heartfelt responses woven with encouragement and gratitude for those seeking deeper understanding and a way back to their faith. Audio: Porn: We have a culture problem –https://x.com/LiveAction/status/2102020018582003858/video/1?s=46 (01:17) Audio: What culture does America even have? –https://x.com/NotTheirScript/status/2088448714486485092?s=20 (03:09) Audio: Why universities breed bad ideas (Real Talk Marissa Street with Gad Saad) – https://x.com/GadSaad/status/2091169446157029484/video/1?s=46 (10:34) Audio: Mary Katherine Ham on failing schools –https://x.com/mkhammer/status/1975220947813896228?s=46&t=m_l2itwnFvka2DG8_72nHQ (12:00) Audio: Helen Andrews on why wokeness is hard to kill – https://x.com/newstart_2024/status/2045246077272784930?s=46 (14:36) Audio: Elon recounting how he found tampons in men’s bathroom when he bought Twitter –https://x.com/jasonjournodc/status/1984389487473098988?s=46&t=m_l2itwnFvka2DG8_72nHQ (19:09) Audio: Helen Andrews points out why many fields keep feminizing –https://x.com/newstart_2024/status/2039787322888065319?s=20 (23:34) Audio: Helen Andrews on the effects of feminism in the Law. Her concern isn’t women in law—it’s the potential loss of the cold, fact-driven, rule-following mindset that keeps the legal system fair and functional - https://x.com/newstart_2024/status/2025689404732510371 (26:58) Gabriel - Why do Protestants say that Catholics are not Christians? (33:01) Margaret - In our diocese, two parishes have had funerals for free masons. (42:12) Lisa - I lived in Europe for some years and when I returned, I was in shock with anti-masculine society that has erupted (48:02)

Patrick Madrid fields heartfelt questions about faith, confession, and spiritual renewal, blending thoughtful advice with personal stories from listeners who share their journeys back to the Church. Conversations range from the impact of attending Mass at historic missions and the transformative power of confession after decades away, to practical dilemmas faced by Catholics navigating secular environments or family tensions. With an uplifting and compassionate tone, Patrick highlights the beauty, forgiveness, and peace found in rediscovering and embracing the Catholic faith. Patrick shares an email claiming he didn’t answer his question, so he answered it again. John (email) - Our Catholic faith is 1 Very deep, 2 it’s Beautiful, 3 it’s very forgiving, and 4 I find a lot of peace in it. (05:25) Kathleen - I watched Doc Martin when I got home from work. You said you watched Best Medicine. How did you react to this show? What did you think? (15:22) Jane - My friend has throat cancer and decided he didn't want to live anymore, so he ate nothing but junk food. Did my friend commit suicide by eating junk food? (21:16) Allyson - My grandson is a member of an Evangelical church. He was saying that leaders of this Church were thieves and that people never got the money. What can I say? (29:33) Steve - What was it like back in the days of Harry Potter? (43:13)

Patrick welcomes listeners to an hour of thoughtful conversation, tackling questions about faith, church practices, and the nuances of Catholic teaching. He addresses everything from the appropriateness of attending gatherings in non-Catholic homes to concerns about liturgical innovations, Life Teen Mass experiences, and the responsibilities and risks for those in ministry and public teaching. Throughout, Patrick invites honest dialogue and personal stories, creating space for gratitude, caution, and encouragement for those seeking to reconnect with their faith. Elliot (email) – Why would you recommend attending a wedding shower at a home with Buddhist artwork? (01:31) Gayle (email) - It’s hard to equate eating habits of healthy people with those who are in hospice or end of life situations. (07:33) Keith - Something I saw at a Mass last week: Is it okay that the priest asked the children to come to the altar so they could surround him during the Consecration? (13:40) Miguel - What is the history of Life Teen? I was part of this organization. Why did they start this? (23:31) Giordano - I think that we live in a time where people have lost a sense of sin. I think it is good for exorcists to do YouTube channels. Someone needs to talk about what’s going on. (30:17) Colen – What is the proper use of the hand postures at church? (43:27)

Patrick answers questions about faith, reverence, and church practices, offering reassurance to listeners wrestling with doubt, grief, or confusion. The conversation ranges from the nature of the Eucharist and understanding grief in the light of faith to the meaning of biblical violence, discussions on receiving communion, and discerning spiritual gifts in a community. Patrick draws on callers’ personal stories to inspire hope, highlight the importance of prayer and humility, and encourage a deeper relationship with God. Bunny - A priest on my retreat said that Lutherans have the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist? What are your thoughts? (00:34) Allison - Our parish priest was a diocesan exorcist. He asked for volunteers to help. How can we support the exorcist if the exorcist is secret? (05:58) Eleanor - Does the devil have anything to do with being broken hearted? Can he affect our emotions? (10:03) Claude – My sister does not like the idea of fearing God. How can I help her understand? (13:38) Alberto - Can you sin in heaven? (21:47) Cody - The Church permits Communion in the hand. Will we one day find that we are committing a sin for having done this? (33:10) Bob - We have woman at Church who says she has the gift of prophecy. (38:47) Sandy - What is halal certified food and is it okay for Catholics to buy it? (42:25) Alvin - Someone told me they wanted to go to hell so they could get rid of people. Is that even a thing? (48:19)

Patrick Madrid answers questions and emails on topics of faith and everyday life. The hour features heartfelt listener notes about rediscovering Scripture, wrestling with spiritual confusion, and the meaning behind certain biblical books, while Patrick addresses practical spiritual dilemmas like sharing faith in mixed-religion settings, understanding the loss of loved ones, and the ethics of accidental harm to animals. With warmth and insight, Patrick encourages spiritual growth and empathy, weaving in moments of humor and community connection. Pat (email) – Are there giants that dwell among us that carry evil spirits? Why doesn't the Catholic Church sing gospel music? (01:02) Email - Would it be appropriate for a Catholic to accept a close non-Christian friend’s offer to host their child’s engagement party or wedding shower in a home that displays Buddhist art, including two Buddha heads the friend regards only as art? Doc Martin is now an American show called Best Medicine (13:01) Ellie (email) - Was it unusual that the priest at Mass yesterday began distributing Communion to the congregation before the deacon, altar servers, and extraordinary ministers, then returned to the altar after a couple of minutes and continued as normal, when no one else appeared confused or concerned? (29:03) David (email) - After accidentally hitting a raccoon on a dark road and feeling guilty enough to pull over and apologize to God, I wonder whether “thou shalt not kill” applies only to humans, if I should go to confession, and what prayers you recommend. (31:22) Missy (email) - How should I respond to my family member who has returned to Mass after being away from the Church but now claims to be a “chosen one” of God fighting battles for Him, insists he is spiritual rather than religious, and consults psychics or card readers? Rachel - Do our deceased loved ones in cemeteries know we visit them? (46:41)

Patrick answers questions from listeners about faith, mixed marriages, tithing, and the challenges of working in healthcare environments that conflict with Catholic values. Callers share personal stories of joy and struggle, from navigating relationships with nonbelievers to finding encouragement on the journey back to church, while Patrick offers both practical advice and spiritual encouragement. Lively banter, music, and community voices fill the episode with warmth, gratitude, and reminders to “keep going” even when setbacks arise. Joseph - Does a person need to be Catholic if I want to get married to them? (04:31) John - I just started a job with a healthcare provider in women's health. They don't do abortions at my place, but do provide birth control. Can I still work there if I don't have to work directly with birth control? (12:55) Greg - During Mass, if I am in the Cry Room, can I still receive Communion? (21:14) Samantha (email) - My Catholic mother married a non-Catholic father who only converted after fifteen years and nine children, during which she and the older siblings suffered because he stayed home from Mass every Sunday and created painful questions and tensions in the family. (28:24) Mary Anne - I thought people couldn't leave the Adoration Chapel, not even to receive Communion. (35:39) Sharon - Friend in my group says that I would never go broke if I tithed 10%? (42:54) Valerie - When I pray the Rosary, how many intentions can I include? Does God think I am being silly? (47:59)

Patrick Madrid explores the importance of critical thinking in faith, addresses challenging questions about divorce, remarriage, and Church teaching, and thoughtfully discusses gestures at Mass and their origins. Listeners call in to share personal struggles and seek clarity, including a heartfelt conversation about a daughter leaving the Church and the confusion surrounding scriptural exceptions to divorce. Patrick patiently clarifies Catholic doctrine while also inviting listeners to deeper reverence and understanding, blending history, scripture, and pastoral care in each response. Audio: Gen X and Critical thinking – Natasha Leggero - https://x.com/knuffsed/status/2101215754712477761/video/1?s=46 (00:19) Joe - I want to know about divorce in the Bible. How do we explain Our Lord's reasoning here? She says you can get divorced because of unfaithfulness? (03:52) Why Did God Say “I Hate Divorce”? What the Bible and the Catholic Church Really Teach on Divorce and Remarriage - https://patrickmadrid.substack.com/p/why-does-god-hate-divorce Jack – Which hand and gestures are appropriate at mass? (15:16) Emily - I'm confused. I thought people were bowing to the crucifix and not the priest. (31:23) Grace (email) - Somewhere my husband and I picked up the habit of making the sign of the cross when the crucifix passes our pew during the procession before Mass. Is that something we should not be doing?

Patrick responds to questions on Church tradition, saintly names, and the lasting impact of liturgical history. He features candid commentary from Lucy Biggers, who shares her story of recognizing personal bias and ideological influence in her career as a climate reporter, sparking both agreement and challenge from callers about truth, self-reflection, and societal pressures. The episode also addresses the struggles families face with digital technology, mental health, indoctrination, and the complex roots of antisemitism, while inviting listeners to seek compassion and clarity in a world of conflicting voices. Anthony (email) - Why has the Church selected seven specific women, among the hundreds, if not thousands, of women saints, to be commemorated during the Eucharistic Prayer? (16:13) Audio: "I explain how I was brainwashed into becoming a biased climate reporter" Lucy Biggers @LLBiggers - https://x.com/LLBiggers/status/2100573854615642446?s=20 (05:37) Jessica - Locking the phones is not working out for my kids. An Instagram Video sparked a mental health crisis in my husband. (21:59) Dylan - I partially disagree with video you played. She didn't actually emphasize climate change and what it is. Same talking points of imperialism, white man, etc. No substance. (33:00) Audio: Bill Mahr on how this country is so antisemitic now (talking with David Foster) - https://x.com/RedWavePress/status/2100243551133016084?s=20 (42:32) Audio: “Antisemitism is a lie that people use to gain or maintain power. And the lie is always the same: Jews are destroying what you value most." @DaraHorn joined @coldxman at the 92nd Street Y to discuss her new book, ‘The Final Solution to the Jewish Question,’ and why she thinks Jew-hatred has less to do with hate than with power. - https://x.com/TheFP/status/2100607160509984987?s=20 (46:51)

Patrick helps callers wrestling with feelings of rejection, strained church relationships, and the longing for a deeper connection to faith. The episode moves through practical wisdom on finding belonging, humility, and courage in spiritual communities as anecdotes and advice offer solace for those seeking a path back to the Church and regular prayer. Threaded with humor, gratitude, and moments of vulnerability, the episode delivers inspiration for anyone feeling left out or longing for renewal. Anthony (email) - Does 1 Samuel 28, where God permits the deceased Samuel to speak to Saul, show that the dead have a real existence after death rather than unconscious nothingness until the final judgment? (01:28) Does it matter what someone else thinks of you? Tom - How do I reach someone who is Episcopalian? At this person's Church, they just baptized a trans person. She has trouble with this but she doesn't want to leave. At her Sunday School they play Dungeons and Dragons for the kids. (21:32) Sharon - What people think of you is not your business because if it was you wouldn’t get up in the morning. (29:26) Mark – Sometimes you meet someone and for some unknown reason there’s something about them that you just don’t like. (33:29) Jim - I think self-examination reveals that I tend to react that way to people with dominant personalities. I ask what in me causes that reaction. (40:49) Russ - Why didn't they translate Latin mass exactly into the vernacular? Would it lose its reverence if it we celebrated the exact Latin Mass in English? (46:10)

Patrick shares heartfelt reflections from his past, thoughtfully addresses listener questions about marriage, infant baptism, and the challenges of returning to the sacraments, and offers practical encouragement for those teaching the faith or feeling distant from their spiritual journey. Humor and warmth fill the conversation as callers express gratitude for reconnecting with prayer and faith practices, while honest discussions around tradition, liturgy, and everyday struggles invite listeners into a welcoming community. Stories of saints, thoughtful catechesis tips, and gentle encouragement anchor the episode, inspiring anyone seeking renewal or reassurance on their faith path. Francisco (email) - After Lucifer and his followers rebelled against God and were expelled from His presence, God allow them dwell on earth and to temp Adam and Eve, who were His new creation here on earth. (03:31) Maureen - Where can I go to understand the rational for Infant Baptism? Can you confirm if the Church recognizes Protestant marriage? (08:01) Anne - I was married in the Church. I got divorced and filed for an annulment but the paperwork was lost. My husband wants to get remarried to me. Do I need to pursue the annulment? (12:01) Tom - Bishop Sheen said you can't help how you feel but you can love everyone because love is in the will. (15:51) Audio: Catholic lingo with comedian Josh Pray – https://x.com/littleonefaith/status/2097010054797144458?s=20 (19:08) Rita - The Latin mass is not just about language (24:21) Mariana - Looking for advice as a first-year catechist for middle school students (32:08) Audio: The hack that stops baby tantrums (Calling your kid Jessica) (39:17) Mike - He prefers a traditional Mass in English over Latin (43:04) Joanne - The Latin Mass is more fulfilling than English (48:14)

Patrick opens the episode with a lively discussion about socialism, generational perspectives, gratitude, and the importance of faith and prayer in confronting social challenges. Listeners join to explore connections between biblical history and current cultural tensions, the impact of artificial intelligence on human virtues, and practical questions about honoring the Sabbath and spiritual topics like purgatory. The episode offers heartfelt and thoughtful engagement, encouraging spiritual growth, clarity, and a deeper appreciation for truth and tradition. Socialism is for morons - https://x.com/VoCommunism/status/2100276472380375073/video/1?s=46 (00:59) Doug - Socialism. I say that Soviet Russia first legalized abortion. Abortion is socialism and communism. Today is the day of closing arguments for court case where the state of California is suing prolife pregnancy centers (08:57) Mike - What is a phantasm in relation to AI? (12:38) Bob - Jesus heals the Gadarene demoniacs, and the people want Jesus to go away. What do you make of this? (21:09) Tina (email) – Did Jesus suffer in hell? (27:31) Sydney (email) - Do Isaac and Ishmael Explain the Modern World? (34:24) Kyle (email) - Is it consistent with Sunday rest to visit apple orchards and pumpkin patches with family after Mass when Sunday is my only free day? Lia - How are souls in purgatory expected to purify themselves? Does God help them? (47:42)

Patrick Madrid fields heartfelt questions about faith struggles, spiritual renewal, and the Catholic understanding of topics like purgatory and baptism. Callers share their journeys from distance to reconnection with the Church, voicing confusion, hope, and deep emotion, while Patrick responds with practical analogies, scriptural insight, and gentle encouragement for those seeking a way back to prayer, confession, and community. Discussions grow candid as he addresses family challenges, the pain of division, and the meaning of true support when faith leads loved ones on different paths. Patrick continues his conversation with Lea about the experience of purgatory Danny - My sister is involved in a Baptist Church. Should we go to our sister's 2nd Baptism? (11:35) Melissa - If his sister is getting baptized and trying to get closer to God, why wouldn’t we support that? (20:01) Liz - I am taken aback by your response. Our we not all brothers and sisters in Christ? (21:46) Michelle - Is a Catholic getting married in a non-Catholic ceremony the same as a Catholic marrying a Sedevacantist? (37:08) Robert - Baptist Lady you had on started with 'I think' and 'I feel' whereas we Catholics have the documents of the Church to guide us. (48:11) Rosa - Should we pray for the souls in hell? (50:02)

Patrick welcomes heartfelt calls from listeners seeking clarity on profound questions of faith, the permanence of choices beyond this life, and the hope of spiritual renewal. He listens to thoughtful struggles with family dynamics in interfaith marriages, ethical quandaries in education, the ongoing defense of life, and the complexity of suffering and God’s providence. Authentic gratitude and encouragement echo as Patrick offers wisdom rooted in Scripture, Church teaching, and genuine compassion, gently guiding those who feel distant back toward prayer, community, and trust. Patrick continues his conversation about praying for souls in hell with Rosa Cal - My dad was Jewish and my mom was Catholic. We used to go to all sorts of non-Catholic events. I don't see how what you are saying is right. (10:07) Stella - I have an ethical dilemma in my classroom. Adult students want me to extend the deadline even though instructions were very clear (15:34) Dave - How do we defend life to non-Christians? (24:02) John - When good things happen, we thank God, but we don't blame Him when bad things happen (29:04) Michael - Revelation 3, where our Lord is talking about where Satan dwells (37:37) Debra - I thank God for the good and bad when I pray. From the bad, we learn. Also, which is the best catechism? (41:15) Tricia - The binding prayer: Coworker of mine who attends a Catholic church talk about how our kids are in relationships that are sometimes not the best. Are the binding prayers real? (45:24)

Patrick Madrid opens this episode with heartfelt listener questions, candid conversations, and a focus on faith struggles and spiritual renewal. Through thoughtful responses about issues like toxic masculinity, fasting, the relationship between the Old and New Covenants, and the perpetual virginity of Mary, Patrick blends theological insight with personal encouragement. Listeners hear honest testimonies and find guidance for reconnecting with prayer, confession, and the Church, all rooted in wisdom and warmth. LeAnne (email) - What do you think are true examples of toxic masculinity and not just the "academic claptrap" examples? (00:51) and keep going back and forth between Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. Can you give me a clear case for Catholicism over Orthodoxy, plus any good apologetic sources? Also, why do Catholics often seem fine with the Orthodox while many Orthodox seem to have a problem with Catholics? Kevin - If Jesus is the fulfillment of the New Covenant, what happened to the New Covenant? (21:02) Robert (email) - Are pregnant women exempt from the one-hour Eucharistic fast, or does my wife still need to observe it even if she has to snack beforehand to manage nausea? Adam - Why is the Old Testament still connected to the New Testament if Christ fulfilled the Old Testament? (28:06) Karen (email) - Without living in fear, what practical steps can ordinary Americans take to stay awake to cultural and security changes around us and be prepared if an attempt is ever made to take over the country? (36:54) Ed - What is the difference between fasting for one hour vs fasting for an entire day? (44:33)

Patrick responds to heartfelt questions about faith, church practices, and personal struggles, encouraging listeners who feel lost or uncertain. He addresses concerns ranging from the biblical basis for praying to Mary, issues of church authority during unexpected liturgies, and how to honor loved ones who have passed without a traditional Catholic funeral. Throughout the episode, Patrick offers historical context, scriptural references, and warm support, guiding callers with compassion and clarity. Mark - I am trying to do the right thing. I was fired for belligerently expressing my belief in evolution. (00:24) Jasmine - Why do Catholics pray to Mary? (04:18) Purple Grammi (email) - Can you prove that JAMES IS NOT THE HALF BROTHER OF JESUS? (10:23) BY THE TIME you finish this article, "Yes, Jesus Was an Only Child" you will have a specific, biblically grounded answer for every version of the “Jesus had brothers” objection, including one from Scripture that few Catholics and Protestants have ever heard of. - https://patrickmadrid.substack.com/p/yes-jesus-was-an-only-child Prince - Does Jesus Christ know when the End Times will happen? (24:32) Angela - We attended Mass and the Deacon's wife presided over the whole mass. She came out in the garments of the priest and read the Gospel and said the homily. (25:54) Jessica - Can a non-Catholic request a Catholic funeral mass? (34:27) Jesus (email) - The end times have come up a couple times today and makes me keep wondering what the Bible says about what will happen to the Church in the end times? I thought I recall you mentioning something about it becoming corrupted or something along those lines. How does that square with what Jesus says in the Gospels on how the gates of Hell will never prevail against his church? (44:51)

Patrick Madrid brings heartfelt encouragement and practical wisdom to listeners seeking a deeper connection with their Catholic faith. He addresses questions about salvation, confession, preparing for life’s final moments, relationships, and Church teachings on difficult topics like sexuality. Uplifting stories from callers reveal how honest conversation and prayer can draw people back towards hope, family, and God’s mercy. Jeanie - Can you recommend Monasteries that do Gregorian Masses? (01:32) Frank - What do you have to say about the last hour of our life? (03:47) Matthew - You were talking about the brothers and sisters of Jesus. Mary was standing by the foot of the Cross with her sister Mary. I thought that was a slam dunk. What do you think? (09:23) Adam - My son is 17 and we’re trying to navigate teenage dating. As a father, what should I allow him to do as far as dating? (14:05) Lisa – I know a lesbian who says there's nowhere in the Bible that says homosexuality is a sin. (22:39) Anthony – Can I be forgiven if you don’t return goods that were stolen? (30:47) Jason - The gates of hell shall not prevail (39:10)

Patrick addresses timely Catholic concerns, including Bishop Burbidge’s recent call for Virginia Catholics to vote against controversial constitutional amendments, offering clear explanations on issues of life and marriage. He responds to heartfelt listener questions about confession, family conflict, purgatory, drinking in the church, and the historical roots of Catholic practices like icons. Throughout the episode, Patrick intertwines scriptural insight, personal encouragement, and practical advice for those seeking spiritual renewal and a deeper relationship with their faith. Statement of Bishop Burbidge Instructing Catholics to Vote ‘No’ on Virginia Ballot Questions 1 & 2 https://www.dailysignal.com/2026/09/13/virginia-bishop-abortion-marriage-vote/ (01:38) Tom - Can you receive communion before you do your penance? (11:05) Email - My husband and I have been married for more than 20 years and have several teenagers in the home. Over the past few years, he and the kids have made racially offensive comments, ranging from mild to quite offensive. Anthony (14-years-old) - Is swing dancing a sin? My sister's boyfriend thinks it is. (22:19) Lou - What do I tell friends when they ask me where purgatory is? (25:37) Julio (email) – Is French kissing before marriage a sin? (41:28) Tony - What were the Early Church Father's opinions on icons? (44:45)

Patrick welcomes heartfelt calls from listeners wrestling with faith, healing, and moral questions, offering both spiritual encouragement and practical resources. His conversations move from the struggles of returning to confession after serious choices to the pain and hope around family, abortion, and forgiveness, fostering space for honesty and renewal. Thoughtful exchanges about conscience, history, and the challenges of modern society run throughout, as Patrick listens, advises, and prays alongside those seeking their way back to God. Irvin - My wife was on birth control. I ended up getting a vasectomy (I know it's a mortal sin). Should I go confession? (05:22) Dave - Jesus never once addressed Mary as mother in the Bible. How come there are ten Hail Mary’s to the one Our Father in the Rosary? (13:03) Ted (email) - You read an email from a wife and mother of a prospective deacon who uses racial slurs. Amazed to follow up with the readings today that also address that. “For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one Body” and the like. The prospective deacon is not being respectful of part of the Body of Christ. (15:42) Art – I think the Lindsay Clancy stories parallel the Legend La Llorona. One of the stories is that the woman is vindictive and so she drowns her children. There are a lot of women who have done the same thing. (20:36) Mark - Does Patrick think that one can be a Catholic and be a Democrat? (38:56) Mark - I don't think people shouldn't hide behind 'men don't understand post-partem depression...' Every person suffers. (43:51) Mike - What about the children? They've been put on the altar of the pro-choice movement. (48:22)

Patrick addresses questions about forgiveness and moral responsibility, focusing on complex situations like the Lindsay Clancy case, struggles with family relationships, and end-of-life experiences. He thoughtfully responds to callers seeking faith, clarity, and consolation, offering scriptural and Catholic perspectives on issues ranging from Mary's honor in scripture to grief over suicide and the Church's teaching on unbaptized infants. The episode weaves together heartfelt testimonies, moments of spiritual encouragement, and practical advice for those searching for hope and reconnection with their faith. Eileen (email) - Dave's opinion brought to mind what I had heard from Fr. Simon on his show… (00:36) Ann (email) - Would you give me a refresher with one of your always-thorough and helpful explanations about Jesus calling Mary "Woman" rather than "Mother." Michael - Regarding Bishop Sheen's prediction about grief from abortion: does Patrick agree with Bishop Sheen's assessment from the clip Cyrus played? (08:46) Jamie - Was there no one in Clancy’s life who would have jumped in and steered the kids to safety? It seems like there is a lack of belief in spiritual evil in our world. (11:34) Anne Marie - What happens when a person is transitioning from Earth to heaven. Are there books or church documents on this? (15:04) Eileen (email) - Could it be that some women have sympathy for Lindsay Clancy because it is unthinkable to them that a woman who was in her right mind could ever kill her children? (20:04) Jim - Can can you flesh how the enmity between Eve and Serpent is connected to Mary? (24:47) Lynn - I am a pro-life conservative who thinks Clancy should not be held criminally responsible. Most people don't have all the information, I think. (25:28) Andrew – How can I forgive people who are not contrite? (34:04) John - My son passed from suicide; he was not Catholic, but I hear that he went to hell. Is that true? (43:17) Mark - What does the Catholic church teach on unborn babies that die? Do they go to hell or limbo? Is this dogma? (48:32)