Podcasts about Protestant Bible

Patrick opens the hour fielding Nora’s heartfelt question about leaving her Baptist community for Catholicism, offering stories of real conversion, practical resources, and gritty encouragement for holding firm through confrontation. He moves from Supreme Court news that affects religious groups, to listener calls on medical ethics, ghosts, and even the challenges of attending Protestant Bible studies as a Catholic, all while anchoring each story with candor and sharp advice. Listeners hear a mix of personal struggle, theological questions, and Patrick’s own reflections—sometimes patient, sometimes blunt, but always real. Nora - I am going to be joining the Catholic Church soon. My husband and I lead the worship music team at our Baptist church. I am trying to navigate how we communicate with our Baptist community that we are leaving in the kindest way possible without causing distain or anger in their community. (00:34) The Supreme Court just ruled in favor of nuns fighting New York’s abortion mandate. The ruling orders New York courts to reconsider whether the state can force religious organizations to pay for abortions. (18:38) Patrick reads and responds to emails about Naomi Epps Best’s experience (20:57) Anthony – Love listening to your show (24:05) Michael - I appreciate what you do Maria – A lot of parishioners are scared to go to church in California because of ICE protests. Is that a reason to not attend? (27:24) Ethel - My 10-year-old grandson asked if I believed in ghosts. What answer should I give him? Carlos - Comment about the raising of Eucharist: If you think about it, the priests used to turn towards the alter so they had to raise it high for the parish to see. Now they face the congregation so he doesn't have to do that anymore. Is that right? (34:23) Email – Is it sinful for someone with cancer to refuse chemotherapy? (39:44) Ray - Can priests say they will retain (as in not forgive) someone’s sins until they turn themselves in, if their sin was a horrible crime? (43:02) Danny - Is it ok for me as a Catholic to join a protestant bible group to better my relationship with my father-in-law? (48:41)

frp.org/liveText LIVE to 90398. Text ASK to 903984:30 How do we talk to people who are against Israel?19:40 What does it mean that we are the aroma of Christ to God...among those who are perishing in 2 Corinthians 2:15?27:20 Does communion bread have to be wheat to be legitimate?29:00 What is the difference between the law of Moses and the law of Christ?32:30 What do modern day false teachers look like?41:20 In 1 Peter 3:19-20 Why would Jesus speak to the spirits in prison?44:45 What is your Bible translation of choice?48:30 Is there a difference between the Catholic Bible and the Protestant Bible?52:35 Is it wrong for pastors to get their sermons from the internet?53:40 I've never really had a relationship with God, how do I start? To support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.lightsource.com/donate/865/29

How the Bible Was Formed E1 — If you've ever compared a Protestant Bible to a Catholic Bible, you may notice some additional books in the Catholic Bible, such as Tobit, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees, etc. These books, called the Deuterocanon by Catholics and the Apocrypha by Protestants, are Jewish Literature from the period after the Babylonian exile but before the time of Jesus. The Jewish people were back in the land, being ruled by Syria and other empires descended from Alexander the Great. As they read the Hebrew Bible, they created many new literary works, reflecting on stories in Scripture and what was happening in their own day. So how do we understand the status and value of these books when compared to the Hebrew Bible and New Testament? In this episode, Jon and Tim explore the background, history, and content of this Second-Temple Jewish literature.CHAPTERSMultiple Bibles on the Shelf (00:00-21:10)History of the Protestant Apocrypha (21:10-34:35)How Jesus and the Apostles Engaged With These Books (34:35-43:05)Why We're Talking About the Deuterocanon/Apocrypha (43:05-57:36)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPTView this episode's official transcript.REFERENCED RESOURCESThe Old Testament Pseudepigrapha by James H. CharlesworthOld Testament Pseudepigrapha: More Noncanonical Scriptures, edited by Richard Bauckham, James Davila, Alex PanayotovYou can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim's extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC“Pure Joy ft. John Lee” by Lofi Sunday“Chillbop ft. Me & The Boys” by Lofi Sunday“Answered Prayers ft. PAINT WITH SOUND” by Lofi SundayBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITSProduction of today's episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, who edited today's episode and also provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie. Powered and distributed by Simplecast.

Questions about the Catholic Bible versus the Protestant Bible, whether or not the original New Testament manuscripts exist somewhere and how we would know if we found one, and the implications of not having the original manuscripts of the Bible.   How do you know you have the right version of Christianity? The Catholic Bible was assembled closer to the time of Jesus, and your church just took books out of that Bible. If an all-powerful God can't maintain the truth over time, he probably isn't real. Do you think the original New Testament manuscripts still exist somewhere, and if we ever found one, how would we know it was the original? What do we mean when we say we don't have an original copy of the Bible? Which parts aren't right, and how would we ever know?

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How do we study and interpret Scripture? Jeff explains the different senses of scripture—literal and spiritual—and dives into the origins and differences in the Biblical canons between Protestants and Catholics. Snippet from the Show Understanding the senses of Scripture enriches our study of the Word of God. Email us with comments or questions at thejeffcavinsshow@ascensionpress.com. Text “jeffcavins” to 33-777 to subscribe and get Jeff's shownotes delivered straight to your email! Or visit https://media.ascensionpress.com/?s=&page=2&category%5B0%5D=Ascension%20Podcasts&category%5B1%5D=The%20Jeff%20Cavins%20Show for full shownotes!

Are you considering joining a Protestant Bible study? Drawing from his experience as a former Protestant pastor, Jeff shares his insights on Catholics attending Protestant Bible studies. He discusses the differences between Catholic and Protestant approaches to Scripture, emphasizing the importance of understanding the historical context of the Bible within the authority of the Church. Additionally, he provides essential guidelines for Catholics who are thinking about attending Protestant Bible studies. Stay tuned for part two next week! Snippet from the Show Be especially attentive “to the content and unity of the whole Scripture” (CCC 112) Email us with comments or questions at thejeffcavinsshow@ascensionpress.com. Text “jeffcavins” to 33-777 to subscribe and get Jeff's shownotes delivered straight to your email! Or visit https://media.ascensionpress.com/?s=&page=2&category%5B0%5D=Ascension%20Podcasts&category%5B1%5D=The%20Jeff%20Cavins%20Show for full shownotes!

Patrick talks about the importance of Catholic parents guiding their teens, especially warning against Protestant youth groups. Callers like Peggy and Kathleen share their journeys back to faith. Patrick also tackles issues like the rules of remarriage after annulment and dealing with difficult family dynamics. G (email) – I can’t find all the articles you recommend on the Relevant Radio website. (00:38) Peggy - I left the Church but came back. There is hope that people will come back. (02:40) Bridget (email) - I am puzzled about your endorsement of someone asking his friend to come to a Catholic teen group. I realize that you are hoping that the friend might ultimately become Catholic, but how can your thinking work both ways? (05:41) Mary - I was drawn into a protestant service. It’s very flashy, but glad I didn’t join. (08:27) Stephanie - My daughter met friends from a nondenominational school, and this has turned out to be a mistake (11:11) Kathleen - My youngest son left the church because of a Calvinist group. My husband left the Church too. it is challenging for me. I wish I could have done more to stop it. (16:11) Adam - I see where you are coming from, but I think going to Protestant Bible camp was helpful for me. I am still Catholic. (20:16) Joe – I disagree with Patrick. Why I don't go to Catholic Church anymore is because of mandatory celibacy in clericalism (24:43) Jim - My marriage was annulled. The vast majority out there are divorced but not annulled. What are the rules of remarriage? (31:56) Sally (email) - I'm a devout Catholic, but I don't have a lot of support. I want to stay true to my faith but to foster peace with my family (38:25) Marge – I’m a cradle Catholic and wend to a Protestant youth group and I didn't turn away from being Catholic. (43:54) Elijah - I am disappointed in the Protestant bashing. Don’t we have same God? (47:06) Gabriel - What do you think about my proof against Sola Scriptura? (49:23)

Questions Covered: 07:00 – What is the Catholic perspective on cynicism and anger? 15:38 – Why do y'all have so many titles for Mary? 21:45 – In Leviticus 10 two dudes are killed for doing something liturgically wrong, but later two other dudes did something liturgically wrong but were not killed. What's the deal with that? 31:58 – How do I deal with spiritual attack without being superstitious? 41:37 – I want to go to a Protestant Bible study to promote the Catholic faith? Is it a problem for me to pray with them? I heard something like if I pray with them I might be excommunicated. 47:10 – Do I need to go to confession for rooting for Ohio State over Notre Dame? 50:12 – We have a Christian understanding of baptism, but what was the understanding of baptism by the Jews at the time of Jesus' baptism? …

Many Christians and non-Christians often ask about the alleged lost books of the Bible. This episode will shine light on the canonization of Scripture. In addition, listeners will learn why books such as the gospel of Barnabas, Thomas, and Book of Enoch are not found in the Protestant Bible. Our hope for this episode is to give Christians the assurance that we do have what they wrote. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Hosts Pastor Robert Baltodano and Pastor Lloyd Pulley Question Timestamps: Reggie, VA (3:37) - What Bible resources would you recommend for someone that is blind? Why does the Catholic Bible have more books than the regular Protestant Bible? Sam, email (9:15) - Scientists believe the oldest human remains are 200 thousand years old, how does this line up with the story of Noah and the flood in the Bible? Mark, KS (11:57) - What evidence is there for multiple ice ages? How would that be interpreted from a biblical young Earth view? Julien, VA (13:38) - Will the two messengers during the Tribulation be prophets? Patricia, TN (16:14) - Is Isaiah 53:5 a fulfillment of scripture and no longer applicable, or is it an actual promise from God to His believers? Chuck, HI (18:43) - Why doesn't Christianity follow Jehovah of the Bible? Ron, TN (22:30) - Did the gospel message change after Jesus's resurrection? Howard, NJ (33:45) - What is the “Acta Pilati?” Would it be wrong to read it to my Bible study? Michelle, MD (39:34) - I have resentment towards God after losing my son and regrets about the type of mother I was, will God take care of these emotions or do I need to? Alan, email (44:31) - What does John 20:23 mean for followers of Jesus today? Fedora, NJ (49:05) - In Isaiah 53:11, how would Christ “justify many?” Does this mean everyone will be saved? Ron, CT (51:34) - What should I say to my step-son who says the Bible contradicts itself? Ask Your Question: 888-712-7434 Answers@bbtlive.org

In this episode, Trent breaks down Protestant myths related to vernacular Bible translations such as the idea the Church executed people just for creating them.

In this episode, Jennifer Barrett examines the arrangement of the books of the Bible beginning with the Hebrew Bible and then comparing it to the Protestant Bible.

Fr. Mike focuses on the book of Tobit today and explains why this beautiful book is missing from non-Catholic Bibles. He dives into the history behind the arrangement of the Bible, and why the Catholic Bible includes 73 books. Todays's readings are Isaiah 3-4, Tobit 3-4, and Proverbs 9:13-18. For the complete reading plan, visit ascensionpress.com/bibleinayear. Please note: The Bible contains adult themes that may not be suitable for children - parental discretion is advised.

Episode 269 –Bible: Cornerstone and Context 1 Welcome to Anchored by Truth brought to you by Crystal Sea Books. In John 14:6, Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life.” The goal of Anchored by Truth is to encourage everyone to grow in the Christian faith by anchoring themselves to the secure truth found in the inspired, inerrant, and infallible word of God. Script: I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty. Revelation, Chapter 1, verse 8, New International Version ******** VK: Greetings! Welcome to Anchored by Truth brought to you by Crystal Sea Books. I’m Victoria K. We’re excited to be with you today on Anchored by Truth as we start a new series. It is apparent to anyone who is paying attention to cultural trends that the Christian faith in America has been subjected to more challenges in the last decade than in the first two centuries of the country’s existence. Some of the challenges come from a surrounding culture that has become either indifferent to matters of faith or even outright hostile to the Bible and Christ. And certainly one trend that worries just about every thinking Christian is the increasing level of Biblical ignorance that characterizes not only our society but often the people sitting in the pews. So, RD Fierro, an author and the founder of Crystal Sea Books, has entitled this series “The Bible: Cornerstone and Context.” And we have RD who is an in the studio today. RD, why did you decide to do this series? RD: Well, I’d also like to welcome everyone joining us here today as we begin a new series. As you’ve noted there is widespread Biblical ignorance in our culture today. And often, far too often, that Biblical ignorance extends even into our churches. That’s shameful but it’s also dangerous. You can’t be a Christian without knowing Christ. And you can’t truly know Christ without the Bible. And you can’t be eternally saved without truly knowing Christ. Therefore, it’s not too strong a statement to say that ignorance of the Bible poses a very real danger to people being saved from an eternal perdition. Sadly, I know a lot of Christians who recognize this but still don’t read or study the Bible regularly. And when I talk to them about why they don’t I’ll commonly hear the answer “I just don’t understand the Bible.” VK: And we can sympathize with that statement at Anchored by Truth. The last book of the Bible, the book of Revelation, was written almost 2,000 years ago. And the first book of the Bible was written 1,500 years before that. So, the Bible was written in a different time. It was also written to a very different group of people. The Old Testament was written and delivered to the Hebrew people and its final book, Malachi, was completed at least 400 years before Jesus was born. And even though the New Testament was written during times and places that are more familiar to modern readers – because it was prepared during the height of the Roman Empire – it still contains references that to us are archaic. RD: Yes. And this lack of familiarity with the times, places, and peoples of the Bible is just the beginning of the issues that we confront when we try to encourage people to grow in their knowledge of scripture. Another real challenge is that just everybody who comes to the Bible does so without having a cornerstone on which to ground their reading and without having a context into which to place the various accounts, records, poems, and instructions. VK: And that’s why you called this series “The Bible: Cornerstone and Context.” We want to give people a framework that will enable them to know how the Bible fits together – and how the Bible fits into their lives and futures. RD: Yes. For those of us who are concerned about helping people understand that the Bible is the inspired word of God we want them to see that the Bible is not just a collection of stories, historical episodes, and moral and ethical instructions. The Bible is God’s special revelation to the world and most especially, to His people. There’s a big word that theologians use to describe the fact that God wrote the Bible so that people could and would understand it. Theologians will talk about the perspicuity of the Bible. Perspicuity simply means to think, write, or speak clearly. With respect to the Bible perspicuity simply means God wrote in such a way that anyone who comes to it with an open mind, willing heart, and diligent attitude will be able to understand what it is saying. They don’t need special training or education to read it and benefit from it. VK: But even though you don’t need special training or education to benefit from the Bible people can certainly benefit from having people who have training and education to help them along, right? RD: Yes, of course. That’s why we’re doing this series. And there are a lot of great Bible study courses and tools available in churches or the internet. Many of these resources are free monetarily. And we would definitely encourage people to take advantage of these helps including previous episodes and series of Anchored by Truth. We want to help people learn the Bible for themselves. But we want to start this series by recognizing that people can develop a deep knowledge of the Bible just by reading the Bible regularly and repeatedly for themselves. That’s why there have been Christians down through the ages like John Newton and John Bunyan who became powerful church leaders even though they had limited formal education before being saved. VK: Well, one of your concerns is that even people who start out with the best of intentions can be derailed can’t they? You’ve often said that you have known a lot of people who made a resolution to read the Bible from cover to cover but far too many of them don’t make it much past Genesis. Too many people exit their Bible program in the book of Exodus. And many who make it past Exodus are often done in by Leviticus. RD: Yep. A sincere desire to read the Bible all the way through is great. I started out that way. But it took a lot of dogged determination to get through the Levitical code in Leviticus, the genealogies of Chronicles, and the strange images of Ezekiel. Today, I know how those things fit together. But I certainly didn’t understand them on my first reading. VK: And that’s okay. People are not likely to understand everything they read the first time they go through the Bible. But persistence in studying the Bible is like farming – time and faithful cultivation will yield results. But also like farming, a little bit of up front knowledge will increase the crop and can yield a bountiful harvest. RD: Right. Understanding the cornerstone of the Bible can help tremendously – as can having a context in which to fit the information that comes from the various books and stories. We want people to have their minds and hearts illuminated and inspired by the Bible each time they come to it. And that is possible. It is especially possible because the Holy Spirit will personally teach them from the Bible. That’s something that we can say about the Bible that can’t be said about any book that is purely a product of man. VK: That’s really an amazing thought. The Holy Spirit inspired the people who wrote the Bible. Jesus tells us that even the words and pen strokes of the Bible were inspired. And the Holy Spirit is still available to us today when we come to the Bible. The Holy Spirit, as well as the Father and Son, are eternal. We heard that from our opening scripture from the first chapter of the book of Revelation. God tells us that “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” There are 3 powerful affirmations of God’s eternality and infinitude in just that short verse. RD: Yes. Alpha is the first letter in Greek alphabet and Omega is the last letter. Saying that He is the alpha and omega is merism. VK: Merism is a rhetorical term for a pair of contrasting words or phrases (such as near and far, body and soul, life and death) used to express totality or completeness. When Jesus told John in that verse that He was the alpha and omega it was a way of him saying that He is source and beginning of everything and all of history is progressing toward the end that He has ordained. One Biblical commentator, Albert Barnes, puts it this way, “The language here is what would properly denote "eternity" in the being to whom it is applied, and could be used in reference to no one but the true God. It means that he is the beginning and the end of all things; that he was at the commencement, and will be at the close; and it is thus equivalent to saying that he has always existed, and that he will always exist.” RD: Right. And Barnes’ explanation of that verse is a good example of how knowing the cornerstone of the Bible helps us begin to develop a clear understanding of passages or idioms that may initially be strange to modern readers. Most people today don’t know the Greek alphabet. If they encountered it at all it was probably in the context of the name of a college fraternity or sorority. VK: Or the name of a character in a superhero movie or video game … RD: … or a nutritional supplement like “omega 3” fatty acids. So, when they read the words “I am the Alpha and Omega” they may not have a clear idea of what the writer is trying to say. But when you understand that cornerstone of the entire Bible is Jesus – and that Jesus is fully God as well as being fully human – we gain additional clarity about what that passage is communicating to us. But I don’t want to get too far over our skis. We are talking about how people can build a solid understanding of scripture. And certainly one way we can be sure that it is possible to do so is because of scripture’s perspicuity. God wrote scripture with the specific intent that it could be understood. VK: And then God also gives the indwelling Holy Spirit to further help us. In other words anyone who has a heartfelt desire to know and understand scripture isn’t going to be left to flail about on their own. God will actively aid them in their quest. And one way God can aid them is by good Bible study tools and programs. And you think that another way people can improve their Biblical understanding and comprehension is by starting out with a solid understanding of the cornerstone of scripture: Jesus. And also by having a good contextual framework that will enable them to organize the material they learn. Correct? RD: Correct. Buildings that have weak cornerstones are not going to stand. Reading the Bible without understanding that Jesus is its cornerstone is not only going to lead to frustration but worse. It is going to lead to gross misunderstandings that can give way to heresy. VK: And Jesus himself tells us that. In the Gospel of Matthew, chapter 21, verse 42 Jesus when Jesus was speaking to the chief priests and elders he said to them: “Have you never read in the Scriptures: ‘The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; the Lord has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes’?” The scriptures Jesus was quoting was likely Psalm 118, verse 22 which says, “The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone.” RD: And there are other Old Testament scriptures that reinforce this same point. Isaiah, chapter 28, verse 16 says, “So this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone, a sure foundation; the one who believes will never be shaken.’” Jesus is the cornerstone of the Bible. It’s fair to say that every book, chapter, and verse in the Bible relies on this fundamental truth in some way. It may not always be immediately obvious how it does so, but some diligent meditation will help us gain insights and that same meditation will certainly improve our overall understanding of scripture. VK: Can you give us an understanding of what you’re thinking about? RD: Sure. Certainly, one of the best known stories in the Bible is about Jonah and the whale – or really the Bible just says it was a large fish. Now, it may not seem like this story has much to do with Jesus but it does. Jonah is one of the so-called Minor Prophets which are part of the Old Testament. After his life was saved from drowning by being swallowed by the fish or whale and then disgorged onto dry land, he finally did what God told him to do – go preach to the people of the city of Nineveh which was the capital of the Assyrian Empire. In other words they weren’t Hebrews. When Jonah did so, the whole city was converted. So, on one level the story of Jonah seems to just be about God saving a group of non-Hebrews. But it turns out that when we get to the New Testament book of Matthew we find out that the story of Jonah has profound messianic implications. VK: You’re referring to the Gospel of Matthew, chapter 16, verses 2 through 4. In that portion of scripture Jesus is confronting a group of Pharisees and Sadducees who are trying to test Jesus to see if Jesus really is the Messiah, the Savior. In response to the demand from the Pharisees and Sadducees that he perform some kind of miracle to prove who he is Jesus “replied, ‘When evening comes, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,’ and in the morning, ‘Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.’” The Bible then tells us that “Jesus then left them and went away.” RD: Yes. So, let’s think about this for a second. At first the story of Jonah doesn’t seem to have much to do with Jesus. But when Jesus actually arrives on the scene we find that it does. The first messianic implication of Jonah was that Jonah was in the belly of the fish for three days. In Matthew, chapter 12, verse 40, Jesus told his disciples that “For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” Then, as we just heard, Jesus later told the Sadducees and Pharisees that this was the sign that was going to be given to them when they wondered whether He really was the promised Messiah. VK: Now, unlike people today, the Sadducees and the Pharisees knew the Old Testament inside and out. They knew exactly what the book of Jonah said – probably some of them could recite it word for word. So, when Jesus told them that the sign they were going to receive that would absolutely prove to them that He was the Messiah they knew, or should have known, that Jesus was telling them that He was going to rise from the dead. That’s what Jonah had done. Jonah should have drowned in the Mediterranean Sea but God saved him by the intervention of the great fish. And when Jonah was delivered onto dry land by the fish it was as if he had come back from the dead. Jonah’s delivery was a miraculous sign that would receive its greater fulfillment in Jesus’ life. Jonah was only in the grip of a seeming death before he came back. Jesus would actually experience death. Jonah needed God’s intervention to save him. Jesus would actually walk out of the tomb by His own power because Jesus is God. And Jonah would go on to preach to save a gentile city. After His resurrection Jesus would commission his Apostles to go out and begin a session of salvation that would reach every tribe, tongue, and nation. All of this is truly amazing. RD: Right. So, the story of Jonah is just one example of how knowing that Jesus is the cornerstone of the Bible helps us understand the Bible’s messages more clearly. We have an advantage that the people who physically heard Jesus speak did not. At that point in history the scriptures consisted only of what we call the Old Testament. And, by the way, that was more than enough for them to be able to know that Jesus was who He claimed to be – the Savior promised by God thousands of years earlier. In other words, the Jews of Jesus’ time had enough in their own scriptures to validate his identity and claims. Their failure to do so wasn’t because they didn’t know enough. It was because they chose not to accept the evidence. VK: Like a lot of people today. RD: Sadly, yes. Today we have the complete special revelation of God because we have the New Testament as well as the Old. But many people today still reject the lifesaving message that is contained in them. But that does not need to be the end of the story. Those of us who do know that the Bible contains the words of life still have the opportunity to add our testimony to the Bible’s witness. And one of the best ways we can do that is by improving our own understanding of the Bible’s message. By doing that we are going to be in a far better position to answer questions, assuage doubts, and direct people to the real source of the truth that can transform their lives. VK: In other words, the better we understand the Bible the better able we are to help others anchor themselves to the Truth. And one way we can improve our understanding of the Bible is to understand the cornerstone of the Bible and then establish a contextual framework to guide our further integration of the Bible’s stores, records, and messages into our scriptural comprehension. And I think that this kind of framework is so necessary today. It might not have been fifty or even twenty years ago, but it is today. RD: Yep. As we started out saying the Bible was written in a different time and it was written to people with which most of us have little familiarity. So, we will improve our understanding by reading and learning something about those times and places. But we can also improve our biblical comprehension just by knowing how the Bible fits together. Knowing that Jesus is the Bible’s cornerstone is vital but we can’t stop there. Laying the cornerstone is the first step in building the house but we’re still going to get cold and wet if we just stop there. VK: Said differently, knowing that Jesus is the cornerstone of the Bible is necessary but not sufficient to developing a clear understanding of how scripture fits together into a unified whole. We also need the vertical columns and horizontal braces upon which to hang the many, many additional components of a mature faith. RD: Yep. The Bible is a single book about a single plan about a single man. Even though most Protestant Bible’s contain 66 books, the Bible is a unified whole. It was composed by a single mind who delivered it to the world through the hands of inspired writers. The plan is God’s plan to redeem a people for Himself. It unfolds through time and history, through people and places but everything that happens unfolds according to God’s grand plan. The grand saga of God’s plan unfolds in 3 phases or stages that occur on this earth. There will be a 4th phase that takes place when this present heavens and earth give way to a new heavens and earth. The 3 phases that take place on the current earth are creation, fall, and redemption. VK: And once people understand this grand plan and see how the grand saga has unfolded they will be better equipped to see how the various parts of scripture fit into that unified whole. They will be able to see that the seemingly tedious aspects of the Levitical code are actually giving us important information about the work and life of the coming Christ. They will see that the genealogies of Genesis, Numbers, and Chronicles are actually quite necessary for us to understand the full relevance of the genealogies of Jesus that will come to us in Luke and Matthew. And they will see that prophetic statements in both the major and minor prophets were essential to the people of Jesus’ day – and our day for that matter – to be assured that Jesus was the Promised Messiah. RD: Right. The Bible is a single book about a single plan about a single man. The plan is God’s plan of redemption that was made necessary because of man’s rebellion against His infinite Creator after that Creator had created and fitted an ideal habit for His image bearer. Once man rebelled and fell, God had to take affirmative action to make redemption possible. And that redemption and reconciliation could only be possible by God providing a representative that could suitably represent both sides of the transaction. That took a unique Being that was not only perfectly human but also fully divine. And we’ll talk more about that in coming episodes in this series. We will see that Christ is not only the cornerstone of the Bible He is the cornerstone of creation. And Christ will preside over the coming 4th phase of God’s master plan which will be the glorification of God’s redeemed people in a new heavens and a new earth. God’s grand saga has unfolded through millennia. So, of course only an eternal Being could be the centerpiece of such a plan. That’s just one of the reasons our Savior and Messiah had to be both fully God as well as fully man. VK: So understanding this grand plan and the grand saga enables people to be better equipped to see how the various parts of scripture fit into that unified whole. It gives them a contextual framework to connect the various people, stories, poems, and proverbs into a comprehensible picture. Many people come to scripture essentially as ants. The can only see what is right in front of them at a single moment. We must come to scripture not only as ants but also as eagles who can see a grander vista. Ants are hard-working and scripture commends that. But eagles can see over the horizon and ride the winds to great heights. We must do both as we study scripture. Well, sounds like we’re in for quite a thought-provoking journey. Hopefully, listeners will let others know about this series. It really can be a valuable resource to the skeptic and the believer alike. This sounds like a great time to pray. Today let’s listen to a prayer for first responders – the men and women who often put their own health and safety at risk to provide for others. This is truly service that goes beyond self and they deserve our support and prayers. ---- PRAYER FOR FIRST RESPONDERS VK: We’d like to remind our audience that a lot of our radio episodes are linked together in series of topics so if they missed any episodes or if they just want to hear one again, all of these episodes are available on your favorite podcast app. To find them just search on “Anchored by Truth by Crystal Sea Books.” If you’d like to hear more, try out crystalseabooks.com where “We’re not perfect but our Boss is!” (Bible Quotes from the New International Version) Revelation, Chapter 1, verse 8, New International Version

Mother Miriam Live - June 11, 2024 An Article on Cardinal Sarah's address to the African Theologians. Can Protestants pray the Rosary? Does receiving Communion kneeling and on the tongue require a special process at the Novus Ordo?  How do I manage becoming a Missionary Nurse and starting a family? Why is the Book of Wisdom removed in the Protestant Bible? What moment exactly does Transubstantiation take place? How to work in a charity where the people I am supposed to help make bad lifestyle choices and spend money on frivolous things? What is the difference between venerating the sacred hearts of Jesus and Mary and venerating Jesus and Mary themselves?  Is the Chaste Heart of Joseph a valid devotion?

Send a text to Spirit-Led Hope!Season 3 of Spirit-Led Hope is all about the Bible. In this episode, Glenn looks at the consequences of a having a closed canon where nothing can be added to or subracted from the 66 books of the Protestant Bible. One of the consequences is that a closed canon means Christians will disagree with some beliefs or religions. With kindness, Glenn explains how a closed canon causes him to disagree with other beliefs such as those taught by Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, Oneness Pentecostals, and New Age practitioners. This episode has a transcript. If your podcast player does not support transcripts, please go to the Transcripts section of https://spiritledhope.com/ . These transcripts have been edited for accuracy and are typically of higher quality than those produced automatically by many podcast apps.Season 3 is part of a long term goal to study systematic theology. If you want to know more about systematic theology, or expand your study, Glenn is using the following text as a helpful framework to make sure the main topics are covered:  Foundations of Pentecostal Theology, by Guy P. Duffield and Nathaniel M. Van Cleave.  The book is published by Foursquare Media and Glenn is using the Second Edition published in 2016.   

Ch. 5: Deficiencies of the Protestant Bible

In this episode, we're honored to have Abdu Murray, a former Muslim who embraced Christianity after a profound journey of spiritual and intellectual exploration. Murray, now a seasoned apologist and author, shares his insights into the reliability of the Bible, the essence of Christianity, and addresses some of the most pressing questions about faith and the modern world.   0:00 - Introduction to Abdu and journey of spiritual exploration and embracing Christianity 4:33 - How reliable and historically accurate is the Bible? 12:09 - Is there any historical or archaeological evidence that contradicts the Bible? 12:11 - What really happened with Constantine? Did he influence the content of the Bible? Why did he become a Christian? 21:05 - What explains the difference between the Protestant Bible and the Catholic Bible? 24:47 - Is the Bible racist? Does it promote slavery?  33:16 - Is the Bible plagiarizing other ancient texts? Did Moses plagiarize the Laws of Ma'at, which came before the Ten Commandments?  40:43 - Are there multiple roads to heaven? Is the God of the Bible the only God? 50:48 - Creation in the Bible account versus evolution: How do you reconcile the two?   ___________________________________________________________   Ready for more? Here are 3 ways we can help you: 1)

Bible Study: (2:01) 2 Sm 15:13-14, 30;  Why is David's repentance important?  Mk 5:1-20 Father offers an insight about who owned the swine in today's reading Letters: (23:27) - Did Father Simon say John the Baptist had no sin?  (25:03) - Catholic Bible vs. Protestant Bible (29:15) - For the kingdom the power and the glory - where does that come from? (31:18) - I've heard people discuss faith as a crutch (32:25) - John the Baptist  Word of the Day: Legion & informant (34:27) Callers:  (36:44) - Could I take a cough drop before the Eucharist? (39:32) - A mediation I had regarding Uriah the Hittite, and does one man's sin, and does that relate to the Lord's passion? What's your thought? (41:27) - Matthew 23:9 and what do you think about it? (45:27) - Is my marriage valid? 

Since the Da Vinci Code hit the New York Times Best Sellers list in 2003, questions and conspiracies have surrounded the Bible and its books. Why did the Gospel of John make it in but not the Gospel of Thomas? Or Mary? Why is the Catholic Bible different than the Protestant Bible, and which one is correct? Dallas Theological Seminary Professor and author Dr. Michael J. Svigel sits down with Rebecca Carrell and Nika Spaulding to chat about Scripture, ancient texts, and Christian fiction.Dr. Svigel blogs at https://www.retrochristianity.org/Find him on Twitter: @SvigelFind him on Instagram: @michaelsvigelFind his books on Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/ypskwjttWe love hugs! And when you rate, review, and share Honestly, Though on Apple Podcasts (and all podcast platforms), we see it immediately, and it feels just like a big, warm hug. Thank you in advance for taking an extra moment to make sure others find us in the algorithms. And speaking of finding us...Honestly, Though: @honestlythoughthepodcast (FB & IG(Rebecca Carrell: https://www.rebeccacarrell.com/ ; IG - @RebeccaCarrell ; Twitter: @RebeccaACarrell ; FB - Rebecca Ashbrook CarrellLiz Rodriguez: IG: @lizannrodriguez ; FB - Liz Rodriguez - https://www.facebook.com/liz.rodriguez.92775Nika Spaulding: stjudeoakcliff.org ; IG - @NikaAdidas ; Twitter - @NikaAdidasWe have the world's best producer! Are you interested in podcasting? Do you know someone who is? Taylor Standridge can help with audio engineering, production, editing, show mapping, and coaching. Connect with Taylor at taylorstandridge1@gmail.com or on Twitter: @TBStandridge

Fr. Jonathan Romanoski, FSSP is Pastor of St. Mary's Catholic Church in Providence, Rhode Island. He was ordained in 2008.     In Today's Show When I was growing up, we always recited the Nicene Creed at Mass.  But now it seems that the Apostle's Creed is getting more use. I was wondering if this shift had anything to do with the controversy surrounding the Western Churches' inclusion of the "filioque" in the Nicene Creed, which I understand was one of the factors leading to the "Great Schism" of 1054? Was St. John the Apostle too young to start his ministry? What should Catholics believe on the separation of Church and State? I'm doing Lectio Divina with the scene with the boat when Jesus says come out and follow me, but I'm struggling, as I can't imagine myself doing so. Any advice? I pray for the living and usually select someone specific to pray for. I have a set of petitions that I make, many of which are targeted towards their proper, active participation in the faith. Is this an appropriate practice? What would be a good response or explanation for why we don't read more from the Pentateuch, Minor Prophets, and so on during Mass? What is the proper disposal procedure for a Protestant "Bible?" How do we respond to Protestant arguments about graces obtained through the sacraments? Which is more important: to follow one's conscience or to follow one's faith? Who is God? What does that word apostle mean? Since Peter was the first Pope, does that make his successors to the papacy apostles as well?   Visit the show page at thestationofthecross.com/askapriest to listen live, check out the weekly lineup, listen to podcasts of past episodes, watch live video, find show resources, sign up for our mailing list of upcoming shows, and submit your question for Father!

Recycling is fake, Sumo's female environmentalist friend and sometimes there is justice in the world.Washington and Oregon are mostly deserts.Sumo talks about how crazy submarines are for a while.This is a “Meta Conspiracy” podcast for a more advanced audience.Meta Conspiracy axioms: they always have to tell you, reality is consent-based, loosh harvesting or consent farming, how narratives are created, debt-based power and spell crafting.The new Meta Conspiracy proposal, “The Weavers”.It appears that every conspiracy has been woven into a grand arch-conspiracy. The same archetypes appear everywhere in the world, no matter the culture. There's a hidden reality behind several layers of narratives and a metaphysical force guides narratives in the same way every time.Don't ask questions.Interview with Alec RyrieThe Bible and the Reformation.The Protestant Bible vs. the Catholic Bible and how we got to where we are now.LinksAlec Ryrie's YouTube playlistS3E030: Everything is Star Magic with Special Guest Tom BarnettMore Linkswww.MAPSOC.orgFollow Sumo on TwitterAlternate Current RadioSupport the Show!Subscribe to the Podcast on GumroadSubscribe to the Podcast on PatreonBuy Us a Tibetan Herbal TeaSumo's SubstacksHoly is He Who WrestlesModern Pulp

And David knew that Yahweh had established him king over Israel, and that he had exalted his kingdom for the sake of his people Israel. - 2 Samuel 5:12   This Episode's Links and Timestamps: 00:24 – 2 Samuel 5 03:52 – Thoughts on the Reading 20:37 - Why were the Maccabees books excluded from the Protestant Bible? – Quora 35:41 - Verse Comparison – The Passion Translation 48:54 - The Passion Translation – Wikipedia 53:13 - U.N. ‘Commissioner' Claims Israel Doesn't Have Right to Self-defense – Guest Contributor, GP 1:00:34 - Did News Agencies Use Photos From Pro-Hamas Journalists in Coverage of Israel Attacks? – Headline Roundup, AllSides.com 1:08:30 - King Abdullah II of Jordan on Palestinians: “No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt.” – Edward Teach, NTB 1:22:03 - Weekly Digest: A Flock of Demons – Aaron M. Renn 1:39:19 - Conclusion --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/garrett-ashley-mullet/message

Fr. William Rock, FSSP serves as Parochial Vicar at Regina Caeli Parish in Houston, Texas (alongside Fr. Daniel Alloy, FSSP). He was ordained in October of 2019.     In Today's Show I heard recently that the Church is known as "The Sacrament of Salvation" - would that be a contradiction to the teaching of there only being 7 sacraments? Why weren't the Apostles arrested in the Garden? Where did the word “Catholic” come from? How should we view Catholic media personalities and podcasters? How seriously should we take the things that they say? What would you recommend in terms of preparing to regularly attend the TLM? I went to confession 2 days ago and the priest never gave me a penance - was my confession legitimate? Can a Catholic swear upon a Protestant Bible in the court of law? How does one properly dispose of a Brown Scapular? When a fallen-away Catholic chooses to get married outside the Church, is going to their marriage ceremony prohibited, or is it a matter of prudential judgment? Did "praying hands" originate in Medieval times? Should Adam and Eve be acknowledged as saints? Should the Holy Spirit be referred to as a "she?" What to do when you encounter liturgical abuses and there is no action taken by the Bishop, even when he is aware? What are your favorite reading materials on the faith?   Visit the show page at thestationofthecross.com/askapriest to listen live, check out the weekly lineup, listen to podcasts of past episodes, watch live video, find show resources, sign up for our mailing list of upcoming shows, and submit your question for Father!

This week we're jumping back into the Apocrypha with The Apocalypse of Peter! Apparently this is one of the books that came the closest to being included in the Protestant Bible that we all know and love, and it centers around Peter's visions of Heaven and Hell. You're not going to believe this, but the vaaast majority of the book is dedicated to cataloguing elaborate tortures for specific sins, as well as a few sentences about the glorious paradise that is Heaven. And for anyone who feels like women don't get enough screen time in the canonical Bible, you'll be happy to know that much of The Apocalypse of Peter centers around the ladies! Enjoy this fun little devotional, but be ye warned: they that refuseth to rate, review, and share this show shalt surely be doomed to snag their ball sacks and/or labia in their pants zippers for all eternity… And all God's people said “Amen.”

This is The Briefing, a daily analysis of news and events from a Christian worldview.Part I (00:13 - 11:09) Turns Out Kids Don't Care If a TV Program is Produced by a Duchess: Harry and Megan Discover the Limits of Celebrity CultureHarry and Meghan Produce a Hollywood Flop: Themselves by Wall Street Journal (Erich Schwartzel and Sarah Krouse)Part II (11:09 - 17:57) What is the Relationship Between Human Dignity and Human Rights? — Dr. Mohler Responds to Letters from Listeners of The BriefingPart III (17:57 - 20:18) Why Do You Find Biographies So Beneficial? Who Is Your Favorite Biographer Still Alive? — Dr. Mohler Responds to Letters from Listeners of The BriefingNapoleon and the Verdict of Biography: A Conversation with Historian Adam Zamoyski by AlbertMohler.com (R. Albert Mohler, Jr.)Part IV (20:18 - 25:23) Why Does the Catholic Bible Have More Books In It Than the Protestant Bible? How Did People Know Which Books Were Inspired by God and Which Were Not? — Dr. Mohler Responds to a Letter from a 13-Year-Old Listener of The BriefingSign up to receive The Briefing in your inbox every weekday morning.Follow Dr. Mohler:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | YouTubeFor more information on The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, go to sbts.edu.For more information on Boyce College, just go to BoyceCollege.com.To write Dr. Mohler or submit a question for The Mailbox, go here.

Fr. Mike focuses on the book of Tobit today and explains why this beautiful book is missing from non-Catholic Bibles. He dives into the history behind the arrangement of the Bible, and why the Catholic Bible includes 73 books. Todays's readings are Isaiah 3-4, Tobit 3-4, and Proverbs 9:13-18. For the complete reading plan, visit ascensionpress.com/bibleinayear. Please note: The Bible contains adult themes that may not be suitable for children - parental discretion is advised.

For additional notes and resources check out Douglas' website.Ron Moseley's book, Yeshua: A Guide to the Real Jesus and the Original Church (Clarksville, Maryland: Messianic Jewish Publishers, 1996) is an interesting read. I have met representatives of this movement before, and read a number of their books, especially once I came into direct personal contact with this school of thought on my first trip to Israel. This school of thought is well described by the term Messianic Judaism, a movement within evangelical Christianity that has been in motion for half a century now. This review is not only a critique of Moseley's book, but also a challenge to the Messianic movement as a whole.ExcellentMany things Moseley and his associates emphasize are correct -- even excellent.Jesus and Paul were Jews. Most Bible readers forget this, and this seriously affects their ability to interpret the scriptures. There's great benefit in setting aside time for study, worship, and cultivating an awe of God (p.42). Yet this is no proof that we need to observe the Jewish calendar. Slowing down and stopping normal work one day a week, attending seminars; going on retreats, having daily devotional times, and so on can serve this purpose equally well. The Jewish background of NT teaching is brought to light, often in a captivating way.The Pharisees' teaching was similar to Jesus' (p.91). I might go even further: if we were to compare our own spiritual heritage to the many Jewish sects active in the first century, theirs is unquestionably the group with which we have most in common.Possibly correctA number of his ideas may be on track, but lack support. I think it is fine for Bible teacher to share his ideas, but only with a confidence in proportion to the evidence itself. This attitude Moseley repeatedly fails to exhibit.His comments on the tzitzit may be right (p.21), though it strikes me as a bit of a stretch. Yet I like this view. John hesitates to enter Jesus' tomb because of his association with the high priestly family (pp.24-25). Could be. But then there are other reasons for which he didn't enter (fear, deference to Peter, being out of breath…). Peter chopped off Malchus' ear to disqualify him for the priesthood, or to insult the priesthood of Caiaphas (p.25). This strikes me as speculative, though I did mention the possibility in my (premium) podcast on Malchus. I think it is more likely Peter was trying to kill Malchus than maim him. Matthew 8:21-22 may refer to secondary burial (pp.27-28). I am familiar with the practice of secondary interment, and have shown ossuaries on many of my tours. Yet such an understanding of Jesus' words does not significantly affect the point Jesus is making, that we are to let nothing, even family obligations, come between us and him. He claims that coins falling into the temple collection containers in effect “sounded the trumpet” (p.28). Yet what is the reference? This sounds like pure speculation. There are many such claims in this book. "Leaven” means giving God your second best (p.110). To prove this, he cites only a secondary source; there is no proof for this assertion. The problem with the teaching of the Pharisees was that it could spread so far and affect so many, not that it was second best. RM's interpretation weakens the point Jesus and Paul make when they resort to this metaphor in their teaching.Definitely wrongYet the patent errors in the book are often not minor, but major.Moseley claims that the “new covenant” is not better than the old, but only an extension of it, or a call to observe it (pp.36, 57). That is certainly not how I and Bible scholars read Jeremiah 31! The Hebrew writer does not put down the old covenant – the fault lay with the people (Hebrews 8) – but he definitely says the new is better. Moseley's group believes that the NT was written in Hebrew, yet I am aware of no evidence. Even among early Christians, the only tradition circulating of which I am aware is that Matthew was originally written in Hebrew (the view of Papias). I believe Semitic thought patterns are discernible in most of the documents of the Greek NT, and without doubt Jesus taught primarily in the language of the people of Palestine, but there is not a shred of manuscript evidence for an original Hebrew NT.   Luke 16:16, commenting on the Law being proclaimed until John, is claimed by Moseley not to indicate any fundamental shift vis-à-vis the Torah (p.41). Moseley is correct that we are under grace and still obligated to obey God's laws; Protestant Bible teachers often stumble over that one, falsely pitting Paul against James, for example. Yet there is more than one way that the Law can remain the word of God for us. I would put it this way. For the ancient Jews, the Torah was the word of God and the law of God; for us, the Torah is still the word of God, yet not the law. “Replacement theology” makes its first appearance 160 AD, with Justin Martyr (p.60). What about Matthew 21:43? Here Jesus says the kingdom will be taken away from the Jews.The moral principles of Torah still apply today (p.50). Please listen to hear my series (“Night of Redemption: A Study of Exodus,” October 2011). We are called to go well beyond the moral level of the Jews. There is a trajectory in the Bible, from paganism to Judaism, and from Judaism to Christianity. The law leads us to Christ, after which point we are mature enough no longer to need it (Galatians 3:21-26). One obvious example is how we treat our enemies. While there are parts of the OT where grace is shown to enemies, in other parts the Jews are told to kill them, even to exterminate them without mercy. Jesus raises the bar. No longer are we permitted to kill, take revenge, or even resist the evil person. How to implement Jesus' teaching in Matthew (also Paul's in Romans 12) may be difficult, yet that does not entitle us to ignore it. Since the Torah was an “everlasting covenant”, it still applies today (p.62). This view shows a lack of understanding of Hebrew idiom, which is unfortunate for one who promotes himself as an expert. Here let me share an excerpt from my paper on Terminal Punishment, which I believe is germane. “We have to let the Bible define its terms... [T]here are a number of scriptures where words such as 'forever,' 'eternal,' and 'everlasting' do not entail a sense of infinite duration. For example, the following list is based (only) on the Greek root aion*, which appears in the LXX and the NT numerous times, with the general sense of (world) age, forever, always, eternity, etc. In none of the following cases does the word aion* bear the sense of infinite eternity. [Whether for the Greek aionios, the Hebrew ‘olam, or the Latin aeternalis, the point is that 'forever' isn't always literally forever, at least in Hebrew thought.]Genesis 6:4—'Men of old' (giants/ungodly persons/fallen ones/sons of Cain) did not live infinitely.Jeremiah 25:12—Destruction of Babylon (though not literally destroyed)Genesis 9:12—Perpetual generationsExodus 21:6—The man or woman would become one's servant'“forever' (!)Leviticus 25:34—Perpetual possession of fieldsDeuteronomy 23:3—“Forever” means the tenth generation1 Samuel 2:22—Young Samuel was to serve at the house of the Lord 'forever'1 Chronicles 16:5—'Forever' ~ 1000 generations—also Psalm 105:8Ezra 4:15, 19—Israelites had been 'eternally' resisting political dominationPsalm 24:7—'Ancient' doorsProverbs 22:28—'Ancient' boundary stoneJonah 2:6—The prophet was confined in (the fish) 'forever'" Moseley claims that “fulfill” in Matthew 5:17-19 means to correctly teach (p.64). Yet when prophecies are fulfilled, they are not merely “correctly taught.” Rather, their words come true, or a deeper parallelism becomes manifest. “Out of Egypt I called my Son” (Matthew 2:15, quoting Hosea 11:1) is fulfilled when Jesus' family returns from Egypt. When Jesus fulfills Psalm 22, Psalm 69, Isaiah 53, and so forth, he is not “correctly teaching” them—though he may have—but rather bringing to pass the plan of God, and bringing to light the truth of God, in accordance with what had previously been written. Christians knelt for prayer, so in reaction the Jews stood (p.60). The ancient literary and archaeological evidence refutes this claim. The preferred position of the early Christians was standing. Moreover, the orans (plural orantes) is well known from ancient art. The ethical requirements of the OT are the same as those of the NT (p.70). Not so, as I mentioned above in my comment on warfare. Back when we lived in the DC area, I pursued this notion, and wanted to include it in my part of the DPI book on the Sermon on the Mount. Tom Jones and Gordon Ferguson shot me down—and I'm glad they did. Back then I was trying too hard to find in the old law justification for many current practices. The point: between the covenants there is not only continuity, but also a radical discontinuity.Certain parts of the law were to be kept by Gentiles (all of it by Jews), in effect creating two levels or standards of commitment (p.79). There is no evidence that Gentiles could be saved through part of the covenant! RM's exegesis of Acts 15 is questionable. Then he claims to have found, out of the traditional total 613 laws in the Torah, many of which still apply to Gentiles (33 positive commands and 135 prohibitions). He overreaches. Let me give two examples. We are to show reverence when enter the house of worship (Leviticus 19:30). I'm all for that, but in Christianity there is no church building (originally). He also states that Deuteronomy 24:15 requires employers to pay workers their wages when the job is done. Yet the passage refers to daily wages, not payment for completing a job. In short, Moseley's method smacks of arbitrariness. In connection with the Feast of Tabernacles, rituals involving water and light had been neglected (p.135). Moseley says that this was part of the ceremonial law. There's only one problem: it's nowhere in the OT! Acts 2:38 refers to Gentile baptism (p.143). Proponents of another eccentric view teach that Gentiles were to be saved by faith alone, and Acts 2:38 baptism was only for the first generation of Jewish converts. In Acts 2:39 the phrase “those who are far off” refers to Gentiles (not the distant descendants of the audience), a point illustrated in such passages as Ephesians 2:17. RM's understanding of conversion is lacking. The Messianic movement often claims that the NT was originally written in Hebrew. On this assumption, they rely on a reconstructed Semitic text of the NT, even though no such ancient manuscripts have survived. Claiming that the Greek NT is less accurate than the "lost" [and hypothetical] Semitic original, they dismiss verses that are problematic for their position. Be aware that no evidence exists for an original "Hebrew Testament." This is pure conjecture.OverstatedThere were some points I wasn't sure which category to place in. They contained some truth, but were pushed too far. Maybe these should be listed under a “maybe correct” heading, but I chose to list them separately.Augustine championed Marcion (p.40). Augustine (354-430 AD) would have vigorously protested this allegation! Marcion  (c.140 AD) rejected the OT completely; Augustine relied heavily it as he promoted his relatively novel ideas, such as original sin and Christian military service. Paul did not intend Greek readers to interpret nomos (law) in the normal way (p.59). It is true that we must discern whether the word means law (generally), the Law of Moses (which is both law in the common sense and Torah in the sense of instruction [

Mark started a new summer series on Better Bible Study, BBS. The goal of this series is to learn how to study the Bible with each lesson building on the previous. Today's overview reviewed the why, what & how of bible study.  Why? Timothy 3:12-17. The Bible is God-breathed, used for reproof, correction, train, inspired by God, and equips the believer for every good work. What? The Protestant Bible has 66 books. God's holy and sacred words. In contrast, the Catholic Bible contains 14 additional books called the Apocrypha. How? Attitude, Read the Bible, Use pen and notes, and listen to the Holy Spirit. The Bible is God communicating through language. Listen to Mark show the value of Bible Study.

Questions Covered: 2:08 – What are your thoughts on the differences between the New Jerusalem Bible and New American Bible translations? 12:50 – How did different editions of holy books play into Catholic teaching on biblical inspiration? What do we regard as originally inspired? 22:56 – Do you know anything about WWI combat rosaries? 32:19 – Can you give me some references in a Protestant Bible for Purgatory? 41:15 – When Jesus returns, will those in heaven see what he's doing on Earth? 44:00 – Why doesn't Judaism believe Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy? 47:26 – Are the four temperaments rooted in Catholicism? I see them everywhere. 51:36 – What did Jesus mean when he said “Be perfect”? How should a scrupulous person read that? …

Patrick discusses fasting and Lent this Ash Wednesday and answers questions about the Catholic Bible versus the Protestant Bible, offers guidance for a listener who wants to come back into the faith but is not sure how. Patrick talks about lent and the discipline of fasting, abstinence, and penitential times in the season of the Church. Aaron - Why are some chapters in Catholic Bible longer or shorter than that in Protestant Bible? Alonso - Heard from interview on Drew's show that French revolution tried to tear down church and state just like woke mob today- what is your take? Molly - Book recommendation of church fathers for someone who is away from the church? Norma - Trying to come back to the faith but i am not sure i am doing it right. advice?

Our topic is the 70 weeks and logical conclusions. I want to share the testimony that brought me here. Back in 1981, I was caught up in Hal Lindsey's book, The Late Great Planet Earth, which was all about futurism and the end times. But then I attended a seminar by a man named David Campbell who presented historicism, specifically the 70 weeks of Daniel. In just three hours, he proved from Scripture and history that the 70th week of Daniel was perfectly fulfilled during the ministry of Jesus Christ. This devastated everything I thought I knew about Bible prophecy. I began a ten-year journey of study and research, which resulted in my book, The 70 Weeks: The Historical Alternative. I never asked for a dime of royalties from any of the ministries who published my work. I wanted the money to go towards getting the books out and blessing the ministry. This seed, along with the seed of other ministries, is leading to an awakening of the truth. We need to get the 70 weeks right in order to understand our history and our present. We will explore different interpretations of the 70 weeks and look at the Reformation and its unifying doctrine. We need to handle the truth wisely and with fear and trembling. In this segment, we will be examining the false doctrine being taught and the sources from which it originated, designed to destroy the Reformation. We will be looking at the Jesuits and their role in the Counter-Reformation, and how their teachings have influenced most of the Protestant Bible prophecy teachers. We will also be examining the Protestant Reformation and the role of figures like Wycliffe and how they opposed the counter schemes of the Roman Catholic Church. We will be discussing relevant issues, such as the hindrance that will come and the removal of the Holy Ghost. We will also be addressing the issue of the temple being rebuilt and how it is a lie that leads to chaos. We will be exploring the divine time measures in the Bible, particularly the prophecy of Daniel 9, and how it must be interpreted as day for a year. We will also be examining the futurist teachings and their logical conclusions. Finally, we will be looking at the six messianic prophecies and the time measures surrounding them, and how they relate to Christ.

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INTRODUCTION: Jeffrey Kranz is a Bible geek who started OverviewBible, a biblical literacy website, in 2013. He uses his expertise as a writer and consultant to help people understand what the Bible is, what it's for, and what it's all about. In 2019, he wrote The Beginner's Guide to the Bible, a non-preachy, jargon-free breakdown of the Protestant canon. In his free time, he loves trying bizarre amari, performing musical improvisational comedy, and working Hamilton references into his homebrew D&D campaigns. He hides from the sun at his home in Seattle, WA.  INCLUDED IN THIS EPISODE (But not limited to): ·      A Breakdown Of OverviewBible.com·      A Review Of Jeffrey's Book – The Beginner's Guide To The Bible ·      How The Bible Is Composed·      Identity Politics·      The Struggle For Gentile Acceptance·      What Exactly Is The ‘Hebrew' Bible?·      The Flexibility Of Jesus  CONNECT WITH JEFFREY: Website: https://overviewbible.comWebsite: https://jeffreykranz.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/OverviewBible/about CONNECT WITH DE'VANNON: Website: https://www.SexDrugsAndJesus.comWebsite: https://www.DownUnderApparel.comTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sexdrugsandjesusYouTube: https://bit.ly/3daTqCMFacebook:   https://www.facebook.com/SexDrugsAndJesus/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sexdrugsandjesuspodcast/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TabooTopixLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devannonPinterest: https://www.pinterest.es/SexDrugsAndJesus/_saved/Email: DeVannon@SDJPodcast.com  DE'VANNON'S RECOMMENDATIONS: ·      Pray Away Documentary (NETFLIX)o  https://www.netflix.com/title/81040370o  TRAILER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk_CqGVfxEs ·      OverviewBible (Jeffrey Kranz)o  https://overviewbible.como  https://www.youtube.com/c/OverviewBible ·      Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed (Documentary)o  https://press.discoveryplus.com/lifestyle/discovery-announces-key-participants-featured-in-upcoming-expose-of-the-hillsong-church-controversy-hillsong-a-megachurch-exposed/ ·      Leaving Hillsong Podcast With Tanya Levino  https://leavinghillsong.podbean.com  ·      Upwork: https://www.upwork.com·      FreeUp: https://freeup.net VETERAN'S SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS ·      Disabled American Veterans (DAV): https://www.dav.org·      American Legion: https://www.legion.org ·      What The World Needs Now (Dionne Warwick): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHAs9cdTqg  INTERESTED IN PODCASTING OR BEING A GUEST?: ·      PodMatch is awesome! This application streamlines the process of finding guests for your show and also helps you find shows to be a guest on. The PodMatch Community is a part of this and that is where you can ask questions and get help from an entire network of people so that you save both money and time on your podcasting journey.https://podmatch.com/signup/devannon  TRANSCRIPT: Jeffrey Kranz[00:00:00]You're listening to the sex drugs and Jesus podcast, where we discuss whatever the fuck we want to! And yes, we can put sex and drugs and Jesus all in the same bed and still be all right at the end of the day. My name is De'Vannon and I'll be interviewing guests from every corner of this world as we dig into topics that are too risqué for the morning show, as we strive to help you understand what's really going on in your life.There is nothing off the table and we've got a lot to talk about. So let's dive right into this episode.De'Vannon: Hello and happy New Year. I hope your year is phenomenal, fantastic in everything you want it to be and more. Jeffrey Kranz is the Brains Behind Overview bible.com and the author of The Foundational Read, the Beginner's Guide to the Bible, which is a non preachy, jargon-free handbook to what the Bible is, where it came from and what it's all about.Jeffrey is here to help us understand how to navigate the Bible, learn about God, and expand our minds in a loving and open-minded [00:01:00] way. I've never heard anybody coin the term non-Christian Bible study until I met Jeffrey Kranz.And so I'm delighted to bring this interview to you so that you can learna little bit more how to navigate the Bible and to do so in a non-judgmental way. Lots of love to everyone. Please enjoy the show.Well, we have us here another episode of the Sex Drugs in Jesus podcast. And I'm here with a, a beautiful redheaded man by the name of Jeffrey Kranz. And he lives up yonder in the, in Seattle I believe you're in. That's correct. And and and I discovered him. Trolling around, no, that's not a cute word these days.I around on on [00:02:00] YouTube. But finding like different videos because I've recently discovered that I'm more of a, like a visual learner. So I've been consuming documentaries and all kinds of videos. So I've found that it sticks in my head better than re reading. Depends on what I'm reading. And so I discovered Overview Bible's YouTube channel and then thus the website.And so then I reached out to Jeffrey in hopes he would reply and he replied to my message and everything like that. And so here we are. Jeffrey. How are you? Jeffrey: I'm doing well, Devean. Thank you so much for having me. been looking forward to De'Vannon: this. Danielle's gonna enjoy how well spoken Jeff Jeffrey is like his, his dick's flawless and everything like that.And so so you are what I would consider to be. A Bible scholar, you are very, very detailed in your approach to all things that have to do with understanding this book. So the, y'all, the reason why I [00:03:00] reached out to Jeffrey as opposed to so many other people who are in various forms of media talking about the Bible is, is, is his approach.He's not really like trying to push Jesus on people. He's more like trying to make information available so that people can make up their own decisions. And so his objective neutral approach to it I found to be so refreshing in light of how so much of Christianity is trying to be forced on people during this day and time.And so his methods are very simple and easy to understand. And so it reminded me of how in the Bible, in the Hebrew Bible, it talks about how Jesus taught with simplicity. You know, he wasn't like super dramatic and over the top and trying to make everything a big deal and, you know, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.And then his, his Jeffrey does a lot of drawings and they're super colorful. And so that really made me feel like I was back in elementary school again, which just really warmed my, the boy and at least still lives inside my soul . So. [00:04:00] So Jeffrey, what would you like to tell people about you personally?Maybe some of your background education and what got you so impassioned about this book, ? Jeffrey: Yeah. Thank you so much for the kind words that made me feel good for, for those listen. . It's, it's about eight in the morning in Seattle today. And I feel like I'm starting off my day on a, on a very kind note.So, so thank you for all that. This is gassing me up and it's a Friday no less. So this is gonna be a very good day. Mm-hmm. . Yeah, so I would describe the overview Bible body of work as you know, you, you really, I, I think you encapsulated it pretty well when you, when you used the word neutral. I, I really like making things learnable and so I think that it's important when you're approaching something as large as the [00:05:00] Bible to, to have an idea of just what it is, what it's for, and what it's all about.Before you start really getting into, I guess the, the musts regarding re regarding biblical study, you know, when. When I was introduced to the Bible it was very much in the context of this is, this is what you should believe about the Bible. This is, this is what the Bible means to us as a family.This is what it means to us as a faith tradition. And so it, it came almost shrink wrapped in, in that sort of context. And, you know, I, as a child really, really got into studying it. I I really enjoyed analyzing the structure of the books. I started doing that as, as more of a teenager. And I was teaching Bible studies as a teenager and, and as, as an adult afterward.[00:06:00]And so what what I started doing when I was in my twenties was writing, writing overviews of the individual. That of, of the Bible and trying to help people who didn't necessarily have a lot of context to be able to approach it in a non-intimidating way. And so that's where, that's where the website came from.I started doing YouTube videos a couple years thereafter to try and help more of those visual learners out there and just grow as a presenter. It was a cool way to, to grow few skills that that I wanted as well. And then the book came later. De'Vannon: Oh, you say you did this when you were in your twenties.you still look young. . Jeffrey: Thank you very much. Devon . No, no, I'm I'm 33 now. De'Vannon: Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know, that was like yesterday. So you started working on this maybe like in the last 10 years, this whole body? Jeffrey: Yeah. Yeah. . Yeah. It was, [00:07:00] I, I would say, Yeah, I think 2013 was when I wrote the first page for overview bible.com.And then I was done with the first stab at pages on every book of Bible. So if you go to overview bible.com I have an overview of each individual book of the Protestant cannon there on, on that website. And that was how the website began. Now I have more content digging into characters and themes and, you know, items from just the history of the Bible as a book.But no, that was how it began. Just individual overviews, trying to make it a little more approachable for people in my. De'Vannon: Let me make it more clear to people just how granular in detail your website is. So it's like, if you're reading one article, something [00:08:00] may be hyperlinked, is gonna take you in a further detail and then again, in a further detail.So like he said, he has an overview of all the books, but he also has overviews of like many popular characters. Mm-hmm. the Bible too, individually. So I was reading in there this morning before we got on, like, you have a breakdown on like on each of the apostles you have a breakdown on like the different prophets, the minor prophets, the major prophets who wrote the psalm, you know, and then there's a breakdown of like, of all of those.So this, like the, the painstaking detail that has gone into, into your website is absolutely mind boggling. I mean, I've never seen a, a bi, a bi biblical website make it so it's so much complex information. And it's presented in like such a readable way, and it's a lot thank you of little details in there for a lot of different people.So like on my website, the Sex, drugs and Jesus one, I'm creating this like little [00:09:00] minicourse version that shall never be as com as complex and detailed as your website is. Because I just don't want it to be, and my, my website's already as extra as I am and it's got a lot going on and so Nice. So his website is overview bible.com.Like the namesake says overview. Jeffrey likes to use this term high level view a lot. Yes, I do . And so if you watch his YouTube videos over on his YouTube channel, which is also Overview Bible, you know, you'll hear him say high level view. So his YouTube channel parallels. The website, and you'll see YouTube videos embedded at various points throughout the website as well.For those of you who want to click over to it. Mm-hmm. . So I really love the way the website is really well written. The YouTube channel compliments that, and then you provided these different mediums of learning and you've got everyone covered. [00:10:00] Thank you, . Jeffrey: I'm glad someone likes it. . De'Vannon: So you have a lot of comments on your YouTube videos though?Like people Yeah. Really. Have some feelings. One person called you a cult. . Yeah. Jeffrey: Yeah. That's there's always, there, there's always a new and interesting opinion on on YouTube and sometimes it's mine. But, but yeah. Yeah, it's, YouTube is a funny place. I think that the. Ability for people to just kind of browse and say whatever's on their mind can lead to some really interesting questions.And I try to approach most, most questions and comments in good faith. YouTube is also just kind of a breeding ground for bad faith arguments as, as many comment sections on the internet are. So [00:11:00] yeah, I would say that I would say moving from the website, which was predominantly found via Google to to making YouTube content as well exposed me to a lot more of the, of, of, of some thoughts that people have on the sort of material that I make.So, yeah. Yeah, the comments can be, can be pretty interesting. I feel like, and you know, Devon, maybe you deal with this too, as, as another internet creator. I feel like there's always a balance to be struck between like engaging, interesting comments that that people throw out. And, and then also saving yourself time and energy in, in responding to things and trying to assess the utility there.It's a fundamental exercise anyway. De'Vannon: So the way I'd say what Jeffrey's saying y'all is that some people are batshit fucking [00:12:00] crazy and they're not worth the damn time.Jeffrey: Yeah. There are, you know, the, the, there are some comments that, that I'm just like, okay, well this is this. I don't think there's much more for me to say here, , De'Vannon: you know, you know, as, as, as, as, as the saying goes in the good book, you know, every time we go to do good there's evil presence. And so, you know, weak-minded people are going to come onto our websites and send us nasty messages because this is, you know, the force of negativity trying to hurt us through people who are vulnerable to such influence.And so this is why we surround ourselves with people who are positive minded and who cater to positive energy and lighted not to negativity. Not, not so much cuz we judge the people, but because, you know, negativity can reach us through them. And so, Jeffrey: It's, yeah, I think, yeah, that's, that's such an interesting, [00:13:00] it's such an interesting part of the world, isn't it?Like the, I, I think that negativity wants to, it almost feeds by creating more of itself. And so positivity is almost an act defiance against that. Like, how can you, how can you continue to approach people maybe that you'll never meet again in good faith and be, or at least for, for me, I, I, I try to, even if someone's being mean online, it would be nice to be someone who is kind to that person.See, De'Vannon: now that's it. Sunday school teaching, right there, coming out , . Jeffrey: I mean, sometimes I'm better at it than others. I, I have responded to some comments with, and I quote, sir, this is a Wendy's. De'Vannon: Yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the, the redhead fire in you does come out in those comments. I would expect nothing lessAnd so, all right, [00:14:00] so the, his book is called The Beginner's Guide to the Bible. So that's what we're gonna talk about. Just a few parts of it. It goes over a little bit of the, well, it goes over a lot of the history, you know, of the Bible and where it came from and everything like that. And then the latter half of it is like a very deep overview, but still a deep look into like, literally each of the 66 books of the Bible.Mm-hmm. . And so tell us in your own words who this bible, who, who your book is written for. Jeffrey: Yeah. So when I started writing the Beginner's Guide to the Bible it, there was a specific conversation that I had with someone I had been doing improv with for, for a couple of months. And she was talking about how she had never really grown up with any sort of religious background.She didn't really have any context [00:15:00] for for what the Bible was or really what Christianity was at all. But she wanted to be able to speak with her aunt about things that were important with her. And I think this conversation was in 20, I think this would've been 2017 20 17, 20 18. And so there was, there was a lot of discussion happening in her family around like, politics, what does it mean to be an American?What does it mean to be a Christian? And my friend had no context for that, that third piece. And so in that conversation I had said, or she was saying, yeah, I just wish. I wish I had more context to be able to talk to my Christian aunt about these things that are important to to both of us. And I said, you know, I've been, I've been kicking around this idea of writing down just kind of like a beginner's guide to the Bible so [00:16:00] that you had, even, even if you never went to Sunday school or if you grew up in Sunday school and never really spent much time reading the Bible, which is a lot of people who would consider who, who would, you know, say, oh yeah, I'm a Christian.I grew up Christian, still haven't either had the time or desire or brain space to to really read or study the Bible said. I said I would like to establish some sort of baseline with a book. And she said, if you write that book, please let me know as soon as it's done, because that is, that is exactly what I want.I wanna be able to have an intelligent conversation about the bible. Without necessarily needing to go to seminary or, you know, go to church or do all the work to try to to try to arrive at, at where you're at. And I do think that that's a very fair thing to, to ask for. So, oh, you look like you've got a question.De'Vannon: No, you keep talking. [00:17:00] You're here, Mike. Cool. Keep Jeffrey: going. All right. All right. So that was the conversation that really sparked writing this book and when, when I finished it in 2019, felt like I had a good first edition. That would be for someone who knew that the Bible was important, but didn't necessarily know how to talk about it with anyone that didn't already share their beliefs.So if you read it now you should be able to have. A good baseline for talking with a priest, a pastor, a religious relative, your bartender, an atheist, all that good stuff. All De'Vannon: the fucking things. So I'm gonna comment on the, that the whole priest, bartender, and everything in a minute. So we said improv.What kind of improv you mean like some sort of Ted Talk improv? Were you doing standup comedy Jeffrey: or, [00:18:00] you know, I, I tried standup for a little bit, but I keep getting tired of my own jokes. So, no, it's improvisational comedy, mostly musical improv. That was, that was my forte. And so, you know, just a, a bunch of adults getting up on stage and pretending and making things up for an.De'Vannon: That sounds so much fun. I bet you there was a lot of alcohol and weed involved in perhaps other hallucinogenics, . Jeffrey: Sometimes, sometimes there is the, the improv community is really interesting. Like you've got, you've got a full, you've got the full range of debauchery from like afterschool special appropriate to absolutely notDe'Vannon: I'm here for the absolutely not appropriateSo I think it's interesting you said that, you know, your book, you know, is gonna help people be able talk with the Bible, talk about the Bible with their pastor and atheist, the bartender, or anyone that's interested. [00:19:00] So I think this, this statement speaks your open mindedness cuz you know, when I was growing up in.You know, they told us not to dare step foot in a bar, let alone have a conversation with a people bartender, you know, and an atheist. You know, they, they built up our egos to act like, you know, we're so great and we're better than everybody, you know, the heathen folk and everything like that. So, the fact that you're mentioning these taboo people who are considered outliers, outcasts from Christianity, by so many of these churches and preachers and pastors who look down their nose at them, I think validates, you know, your open-minded approach to this.Thank you. . I've been in churches where they were like, you know, don't, if somebody doesn't make enough money, don't even talk to them. You know, they were like, you don't want their, you know, brokeness bringing Oh man and stuff like that, . Oh, Jeffrey: that sounds so healthy. , De'Vannon: you know, that's, you know, that those were [00:20:00] the Pentecostals who told me that shit, you know?And so and where I think they get this from is how in the Bible, you know, you have like the Nation of Israel and God's telling his people to be separate from the people around them and everything like that, which has all kinds of like historical context and stuff like that, that we can go on and on for hours for.But there was a practical reason why God told them that he did not say for everybody who, whoever believes on him to distance themself from whoever they feel like isn't living right. You know, that's an example of people taking the Bible and doing what the fuck they want with it. Which is super easy to do.Yeah. It, Jeffrey: it's . Yeah. I'm, that's, that's kind of one of the reasons why, you know, in the book, what I, what I put a lot of energy toward at the beginning is talking about what it is and what it's for. Because if you treat this [00:21:00] collection of ancient writings as something that is essentially your magical codex and then whatever, whatever meaning you can pull out of this, because you can link your thought to this magical book, then that gives it authority.If that is, if that is your mindset, then you can wreck a lot of harm on the relationships in your life. You can wreck a lot of harm on people that you don't even necessarily know. If you, if you bring that into the world around,De'Vannon: That's what I call the batt crazy, like what I mentioned earlier, because you know, the, you know that and there's a lot of ego there, you know, for somebody to read through the Bible. Ultimately, what I believe the Bible is for is for each individual to read through it, to find out how they can improve themselves, end of story.Like it has nothing to do with policing somebody else, you know? You know, [00:22:00] but it's presented that way. So, so we're talking a lot about, like, talking about the Bible. I think it's fascinating. You know, we talk about so much stuff with our friends, you know, sex, who we've slept with, who we're gonna sleep with, who were dating.Oh my God, the travel, all the trips were taking, you know, I bought this thing, that thing, you know, and yet when it comes to like religion and Christianity, I think the furthest generally as society we've come is the whole universe. So people will be like, I'm gonna manifest this in the universe. That is very friendly talk that I get everywhere I go, but specific deities are like gods and stuff.Mm-hmm. like that, not so much. And so I like, like your rhetoric and everything. Just the fact that, you know, suggesting that somebody would want to have a conversation with a pastor, an atheist, just to converse at all, rather than just saying, oops, we shouldn't talk about that, is like a big deal. I get this from, [00:23:00] like, I remember when I was like, you know, younger in my twenties and going around all the gay bars, doing all the cocaine and all the drugs and everything, you know, and trying to be cute.But you know, we never really had serious conversations about religion, , you know, or life. If it was, it wasn't Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, don't bring it up. You know what, I'mJeffrey: you know, you know, I think I can honestly say that I've never been in a situation in which, if it's not Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan don't bring it up, really applies to me.But I have been in plenty of contexts in which religion did not come up myself. , I've, I, I guess it's safe to say I've had a lot more conversations about the Bible than I have about Lindsay Lohan. De'Vannon: The thing is man in, in the gay community and just in general [00:24:00] society, we talk so much more about the things we want to acquire in life, our successes or, or the experiences we want to have, be it drugs or traveling or going fishing.But we barely ever talk about spirituality. Hmm. And then usually when people mention the universe, it's about something they're trying to get from it, you know? Yeah. I don't really hear people who subscribe to the universe as their higher power is talking about like spiritual growth a lot. You know, self-help and self-development is separate from the speak of the universe.Like when the secret first came out and everything like that, you know, I watched that video and it was very much about, I'm gonna put this picture of this house on the wall, I'm gonna get it right. You know, it was all about like, what can I get? You know? I'm not throwing shade at it, I'm just saying it just is very grabbyJeffrey: It's, it's really interesting and I think that, In some ways, like it's an unfortunate [00:25:00]side of human nature to approach something good and then say, how can I exploit this? Like, how can I get, how, how can I use this for all it's worth for me? And I think that that really gets to I guess what I, I shouldn't say what religion is good for, but like the, I, I think conversations around spirituality with the people in our lives are a really good opportunity to, to check that.Like, that's, that's one of the reasons why I like discussing spirituality with folks because it feels like an opportunity to identify ways in which, you know, maybe we're, maybe we could be thinking about ways to be good to the universe in return and what can we. , what can we contribute to, to the cosmos around us as opposed to what can we extract for, for ourselves right now?Obviously we need to get, we need to get good [00:26:00] stuff too. But I think having, having an attitude of generosity for the universe is also really helpful in spiritual conversations. Can help Facilit facilitate that. De'Vannon: It's balance, man. This is what I'm saying. This is, there was nothing wrong with us doing all the cocaine and talking about Lindsay Loja and Paris Hilton, but we should have talked about something spiritual too, you know?So, yeah. So get, get all you want, but give too. So what I. What I hate is when I have friends who I've known forever and talk to all the time, who never talk about anything spiritual. And then like when something happens to like one of their kids or something bad happens and they take the social media wanting all this prayer, and suddenly everything is Jesus in my faith.And I'm all like, bitch, I didn't know this about you, . Wait. Oh man, where'd this come from? . Jeffrey: And that's, that's really interesting. Like, I think that one [00:27:00] of the, one of the really interesting things that or, or an interesting topic that I find myself discussing with like new friends is like, what, what is spirituality even for, like, what's, what's the utility in being a spiritual person or things like that.And, and I feel like what, what you're describing is, is something that a lot of people. we're told religion was for right. Like this is, this is your channel to go to someone or something that's more powerful than you because they can do things that you cannot. Mm-hmm. . So once, once you like, reach a spot in which you realize that you can't, you don't have the control that you want you don't have the resources or the talents or you know, the, the scope in order to realize what you want, then what do you go to?You go to your, your religion to try and see, okay, well is there anything [00:28:00] here that can help me? Now that I've exhausted everything De'Vannon: that I can do,I want people to stop looking at God as a means to an end though, because none of us want some, want some food coming around just when they want some shit from us. Like nobody wants that. And so, God lets us abuse him like that , you know, because he's really nice. But , Jeffrey: I think it's, I think it's really interesting, like, because a lot of, a lot of the thought around like asking, asking God for things doesn't seem to take into account like where that thing is going to come from.So, you know, I, I think, I think we're all familiar with like this idea of two people fraying that their sports team wins the same match. Well, okay. It's, I think it's pretty clear to see like where the interests are aligned there. Or we're [00:29:00] not aligned there. Like that's, that's pretty, that's pretty base level.But then even in the Bible, you've got the, the problem of job in that, oh, job loses everything, has no idea why he's lost it. and ends up, ends up saying, you know, I, I want to file a complaint with God. Essentially asks like if God had a manager job, would've asked to see him or demanded to speak with him.And you know, at the, at the end of it, we see God just saying to Job, look, you don't even understand why the ocean stops at the beach. Like you don't, you don't know how any of this works and you want to file a complaint with, with me and how, and how it works. Like this is just beyond your understanding.The system is so complex. And, and I think that, you know, like that that human desire for there to be someone making things right in the [00:30:00] end has been part of, that's been part of us for as long as we've been a species as far as, as far as I can tell. And. Like when to, to, to bring it back to like asking God for things or just like demanding things.I think I think that as, as far as the picture of God has been painted in like the Hebrew Bible and, and the New Testament, this God seems to understand and, you know, not really begrudge humans of of asking him for things. But there's, there's something bigger. There's always something bigger at play than, than what we want.And you know, the Apostle James says that if, if anyone lacks then they can ask for wisdom and God you know, God's not going to begrudge them that. And [00:31:00] so I think like asking, asking for things like wisdom that don't need to come from somewhere else, like, that's not going to disrupt any other part of the system.The way asking for rain or asking for money or asking for, you know, a child or things like that might, I think asking to have more of that divine perspective I think, I think God will, God will make it rain on that front, right? Yes. But, yeah. Yeah. But, but no, I, I don't, I don't think God gets annoyed by, by us asking things.And I, I, I agree with you. Like he is, he puts up with a lot of our bullshit because he is nice. But I think he's also wise and he knows that we're just children and we're doing the best we De'Vannon: can. I know he's not angry. I'm angry on his behalf. I'm like, I want y'all to see that he's a person, he's like a human without flesh, whatever personalities we have.What, you know, he's that. The more, because we're [00:32:00] made in his image, you know, we're just like little versions of him. So his feelings to get hurt and stuff like that, though he possesses the capacity could be completely objective in spite of his feelings being hurt. So I just want people to see like the humanity in God.Mm-hmm. , even though he's totally divine, and yeah, we can ask for everything, but still, he's like a person and you know, you know, he, he has feelings. Yeah. , Jeffrey: that was, and if you read the, the Old Testament prophets, you'll see that. De'Vannon: See just best feelings. You know what, I don't. , you know, so we're not gonna be on this earth forever, and eventually we're gonna look at God in the face.You know, our relationship with him cannot just have been transactional the whole time. You know, at what point are we gonna just get close to him for who he is and just talk, just, you know, know him. Mm-hmm. , you know, and I get off my soapbox on that. I wanna comment on something that you had mentioned earlier about your, like your, your family, friends, relatives, associates, saying like, they don't, they're trying to figure [00:33:00] out what it means to be American and to be Christian.So I just wanna say that to be an American is like a blank slate. You know, this country doesn't have its own language. We don't have a national religion. Like you can't speak American, like you can't write American , you know, this country. It's just like, oh, somebody says just like a white, well, they took a, like a, a, a dry race board, such as you have behind you , and, and there was a bunch of indigenous people on it, and then they like, kind of wiped the majority of those out.And then they, they just took, you know, when we went down to African and snatched people and threw them in there and, you know, and just like pieced it together, you know? So to be an American is what I, I don't really know. It's like this, whatever do you make of it, you know? Allegedly, it's supposed to be a whole lot of freedoms here, but that's not the case.But there's no like, say, like, you know, Italian, you know, culture, you know, rooted in us and stuff like that. You know, there's [00:34:00] no, Americans have pasta, you know, there's no, you know, the French have their crepes, you know, you know, there's no like American. You know, so it's whatevs. Jeffrey: I mean, we got serving sizes, right?we got we got, we got the supersize, we got the drive through . We got De'Vannon: things that the world laughs us about. So we have the golden arches. McDonald's. Yeah. Fast food capital. We're the fast food capital of the world. Arah,And what does it mean to be Christian? Well, you know, that's also very, very, very, very vague because you have many different denominations, you know, that are all supposed to be following, you know, the same God. But it seems like we can't get on the same page. So I think what it means to be both of these things, American and Christian, is very individualized.And I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I think it's a beautiful thing because it requires each of us to get to know [00:35:00] who God is for ourselves to see what exactly Christianity is gonna look like for us. Go ahead. Jeffrey: It's, it's interesting how much of religion comes down to identity politics. Like so much of, so much of what it means to be a Christian comes down to what that individual means by Christian.Cuz you can talk to a thousand different people who would say I'm a Christian, and then ask, okay, well what, what about you makes you a Christian? Or, or what, what does that mean for, for you? How does that make your life different from what it would be otherwise? And you can get a thousand different responses.And so, you know, granted, like many of them will say, oh, well I [00:36:00] believe in the Niacine creed. I believe in the Apostles Creed. You know, I, I subscribe to this, or, or, or that. But ultimately I think the reasons why, We take on labels is because we want to, we want to know where we fit into the world. And identity politics is a really big part of that.But the De'Vannon: danger there is letting how another group of people define themselves define you, or how a certain group of people want to define you. Define you. And so then, so you're trusting that they're right and that, and you're believing that you're wrong. And which is how I entered into Christianity, believing the guy up in the pool pit knew better than me.And so then I would bend my mind. Yeah. Whether I dis whether I agree with what he was saying or not, I would change my mind by force to go with what the guy on the stage was saying. Now, I would never do that again because I, I need, I see the falling in that. So you know this, that sort of person you're describing is what we would call.[00:37:00] Maybe somebody who's not super experienced in their faith yet. Maybe it's somebody new. Cuz as you grow in God, eventually you'll get the point that you actually don't need a preacher , you know, or a whole group of people to . Yeah. It's, yeah, Jeffrey: you don't need it. But I don't think I, I mean, it, it sounds like we're touching on maybe one of the darker sides of like Bible study and I guess the way people approach this sort of topic in that we, we like having rubrics and we like having scorecards.And, and so like when, when we're dealing with topics of like morality or, or identity, then. It becomes like, I, I think humans have this this natural [00:38:00] gravitation to say, okay, well we know that there is good and bad in the world, and therefore, how do I make sure that I can identify what's bad and how do I make sure that nobody thinks I'm bad?Like, that's, that's something that I think a lot of people immediately try to figure out. And so that's where the rules come in. And that's, that's where like the, okay, well I'll, I'll just bend my mind to believe what what I believe to believe what I believe. The people who tell me what to believe, believeAnd I promise if you play that sentence back, it makes sense, . But that's, that's what we end up doing because we want to fit in. with a group of people that, that are going to affirm this idea that we're good and that we're, and that we're doing, we're doing what's right. [00:39:00] And I think that when you get to know the teachings of Jesus, and if you, if you can approach if you can approach this God with who you know, like John says, God is love, like if you can approach someone who could be described as as love personified then I think, I think you start to understand that it's not so much about checking boxes or, or meeting a rubric or criteria and signaling that you're good so much as it is just changing from within.And like all your core drives becoming more and more aligned to acting out of love for. For people around you, for people in general and for the world, De'Vannon: for the whole wide world. Mm-hmm. , let's spread some love. [00:40:00] So you, indeed, you make a point to say that this is not a Christian book, like right at the top of it.So what, why, like, explain why. Like, I, I, I believe that I know why mm-hmm. , so, but I'd like to hear you say it. Jeffrey: Sure. Well, it's not a Christian book because it's not trying, like in, in my discussion of the Bible, I'm. Really not trying to influence what you believe about God or what you believe about the person of Jesus.Like that's, that's not what you're going to, to find in there. And in fact, I try to be I try to not even say things like, you know, God says this without saying, [00:41:00] the ancient Israelites believed their God. Sid said this, like, I want, I want to keep the, the discussion focused on what the Bible is and what it says.As opposed to trying to say because we have these shared beliefs, then we can agree that this is what it says. I think that that's dangerous because it gates the, it gates the meaning of the Bible behind some sort of creed. And that's just, I don't think that's a helpful way of approaching or understanding such an old set of documents.You know, people appeal to the Bible when they're making legislation. People appeal to the Bible when they're making decisions as to who they're going to date or marry. They appeal to the Bible when it comes to how they conduct themselves in society. And these are things that [00:42:00] affect so many people who aren't Christian and, you know, don't necessarily have any reason to, to have the Bible in their homes.I think that it's only fair that there should be resources that help everyone understand what this book that everyone's appealing to says without them necessarily needing to either adopt beliefs that they don't have or pretend. To adopt those beliefs in order to, to get the education. Like I think that this is something that a lot of people appeal to when making decisions that affect other people and those other people should have as much as, as much as possible and unbiased means of understanding what these people are appealing to.De'Vannon: I'm gonna read two excerpts from your book that I feel like has to do with this right here, what we're talking about. And we were talking about [00:43:00] what does it even mean to be a Christian? And you were saying from the book it says, with so many Christians joining the faith from different backgrounds, there was a lot of confusion as to what it was they were actually supposed to believe and do.How did you theologians former prostitutes, wealthy merchants, illiterate slaves and other diverse people live their lives together, the follower of Jesus. And the other question posed in the book was, what should they do about the Jewish law? Then you say, if churches are a mix of Jewish and non-Jewish people, Jewish being of the bloodline of Abraham, non-Jewish, not of the bloodline of Abraham, as I understand it.How would Christians handle the culture clashes? The Jews had methods and traditions of food, worship, work, sex. The other cultures had their own approaches to these. How would they start out? Cultural differences in a new mixed community? Mm-hmm. in the book of Acts, which I think is a titillating read now that I'm, you know, older and I know how to go now that I'm able to look through it myself.[00:44:00]Mm-hmm. , one part that they never preached to me in the book of Acts growing up and all of them in their churches was about just how much the Jews hated the Gentiles. And they didn't give a damn about what Jesus said about all y'all kissing makeup and get together , they. It really had a heart. The Jew, the Gentiles being people were not naturally the bloodline of Abraham, people who were outside of the culture of the nation of Israel, who God said when he rolled out that, that vision to Peter, he's like, I want everybody, I cleansed everybody.Everyone can now come. Those people were not trying to have none of this. You know? They were like, we don't want them still. And so the book of Acts, a lot of it's about, yeah, the Holy Ghost coming and speaking in tongues, but a lot of it's also about, just hear what I just said. And what Jeffrey talks about in his book is, how the fuck do we infuse, you know, us together?Because up until the time of Jesus, God had told them, be separate. You're, you're, you're gonna be [00:45:00] holy and different than all these nations. And now all of a sudden he's saying, nevermind everybody play nice together. And so they had a meeting in the book of, And when they came out of this meeting, they were like, okay, if you're not of the bloodline of Abraham, then don't like eat chit strangled meat, strangled to idols, or some shit like that.It was like three tenets that all had to do with idol ideology or some shit like that. Jeffrey: It was, yeah, don't, don't eat things that were strangled, don't eat food sacrifice to idols, I believe. And I think it was abstain from sexual immorality. And then in in Galatians Paul, Paul says that like the, the main stipulation was care for the poor.So like, I, I think in terms of acts, those first three were, were the things that James just kind of said, okay, all right, all right. Like, we're, we're not gonna hold everyone to, to keep the whole Torah. But, [00:46:00] but we, we do wanna make sure that, that we're aligned on these three things. Is that the, is that the, the conversation that you're referencing when, like Paul and Barnabas come down from, from Antioch and they, they have this whole discussion as to whether or not Gentile Christians need to abide by the, the Jewish law.Right. It De'Vannon: was a whole scene. It was a whole scene, yeah. And so whenever I reference the Bible, I try to call it the Hebrew Bible to remind people that we're talking about a, a Middle Eastern book, you know, from all those years ago. Jeffrey: And just, and, and just for, for your reference, the Hebrew Bible in the Bible are kind of two separate things.So the Hebrew Bible refers to the Old Testament and like there's today a, a lot of folks call it the TaNaK, long time ago, I think it was called like Miska or Mik. You can, you can tell I'm not a Hebrew scholar. But, [00:47:00] but yeah, the he, the Hebrew Bible. Refers to the books that we now preserve in the Christian Bible that were written in Hebrew.So Old Testament books ranged in a different way for the Hebrew Bible, but that's, that's the Hebrew Bible. New Testament was written in Greek. And so like the Bible, you're right, was written in a different part of the world. The Hebrew Bible is, is really in reference to, to the Old Testament.Anything with acts would be, that would not be included in what most people refer to as the Hebrew Bible. Just, just so you know. De'Vannon: Thank you for the education. You got itAnd so it sounds to me like what they decided was that people can keep their own culture and like you said, agree on those things. And so, I think a reason why a lot of people are unhappy or they don't make it very far with Christianity and following Christ is because they're trying [00:48:00] to do too much. You know, God is not asking you to act like his people did over 2000 years ago.He's not. He's asking you to not put anything else before him. And he said to basically treat everyone else nice and to get serious, you know about God. So when Jesus says the love, the Lord your God with all your heart and all your mind and the love of your neighbor as yourself, he says, basically everything boils down to those two things.And so that's why I'm a big proponent of people getting past, just asking God for stuff and actually getting to know him. You know, because you got to, any relationship we have with anybody cannot just be based on getting stuff from them. We have to go beyond that. Yeah. And so and so I think that we have more freedoms in Christ than what the church tries to let us know.So this, so I don't know. I don't, I mean, I don't think he could get any clearer than this. You know, God himself has said, do your culture, but just worship me first. You [00:49:00] know? I don't, Jeffrey: yeah. And, and I think, you know, to, if we were to, to bring all of this around to what you had originally brought up like what the early church was dealing with, like this this desire to remain faithful to this to these traditions which we, we still have these, these documents preserved today in the Old Testament but also wanting to, you know, wanting to welcome in people that did not have any of that context and in fact had very, very different contexts.And this is, this is where I think that that command to love one another. Really starts showing what, what I maybe like most [00:50:00] or en or enjoy most about early Christian teaching which is you, you can't necessarily know what the long range ripple effects of anything you do are gonna be you know, to, to someone in the first century.I don't know how much they, how, how, how much they would've known about the nutritional or scientific benefits of abstaining from non-kosher foods. You know, like to today, today there's a lot of, there, there's a lot of talk about like, going back and like trying to find the science to make these ancient commands make sense.But that's not necessarily what people were, were dealing with back then. Like they, they just had these traditions. They wanted to acknowledge And, and I think that what Jesus did was gave us this opportunity to say, [00:51:00] well, what if we instead of tried to check the right boxes? And what if instead of trying to see you know, who is, who is necessarily winning this game?Or are we playing this game? Well what if instead we made it about acting out of love for, for those around us? Cuz while you can't know the long range ripple effects of anything that you do you can know for sure whether or not you're acting out of love for someone else. Like that's something that you can always, you can always check.And in many ways it's kind of like the only thing that you can know when you're doing something. So, like when I, I think that that's a, a harder rule because it deals with. Becoming, you know, a transformed person. But it's a simpler rule and I think that's, that's something that, that Jesus did. And I think that's what, [00:52:00] that's what gave the early church so much, so much appeal.De'Vannon: So in other words, Jesus was like, way more chill, , Jeffrey: and in other ways, way not like I like. Yeah. The, this idea that this idea that you can, that you can come in from anywhere like this this kingdom of God is, is something completely different from the empire of. And, and this this faith tradition doesn't rely on you being from a certain nation and then converting from, from one, you know, ethnic tradition to another.It's instead focused on you bringing yourself and and just using who [00:53:00] you are on behalf of, of those around you. Whether, you know, that's, that looks like giving giving of your, your resources giving of your services just being compassionate to, to the poorer around you. Like that's, that's what we see in in the early church.And yes, there, there was concern about, you know, there, there, there was concern about traditions and there was concern about teachings. But the. The general narrative that you're seeing there in Acts is one more of opening up than than closing off. I love De'Vannon: how Jesus broke. His own rules. So, you know, like when he was going through the cornfield and eating you know, on the Sabbath day and you know, and look back how and when he referenced how when David went into the temple, you know, and ate the holy show bread and stuff like that, you know, Jesus is like, yeah, the [00:54:00] rules are here, but if it comes down to it, you put people before rules.Because I think he said something like, rules were made for people, not people for rules. Jeffrey: The Sabbath was for man and not man for the Sabbath. Yeah, De'Vannon: yeah. You know, and so. and the love part comes in when you go, yes, it's AAB today, but I'm gonna heal this motherfucker anyway because he needs it. The rules be damned.Yeah. You know, so a version of that today would be like, we're gonna show love to this woman and let her get, get whatever abortion she needs if she wants it. We're not going to be like, well, these are the rules, you know? So 10 year old girl, have the baby anyway, even though you just got weight. So,Jeffrey: oh man. The, now I am, I am someone who enjoys petant or Petry a good deal. But no, the, define De'Vannon: what that word is. . Jeffrey: Petry. Okay. So I, [00:55:00] I am the guy who's super fun at parties because I will, I will show up and be like, I, I am kind of like the All right. Well actually it was this, or, you know, like I'm, I'm, I'm very much like a social nit picker when it comes to like answering trivia games and, and things like that.So respectfully annoying might be one way of putting it. So, so I do, I do enjoy picking, picking through the rules and lawyering around life. I'm not a lawyer, but that can be fun. However reducing someone's life to this academic exercise of whether or not something is, is right or wrong according to the rules, I think is just, it's dehumanizing.It would be, yeah. It, and, and I think that's a huge problem that that people, that [00:56:00] people in Christian circles, Are dealing with today when we, when we elevate this idea of being, of having a purity of creed but not, or, but elevating purity of creed over the way we actually treat other people. I think that, that, I think we could all do do a lot better on that De'Vannon: front.I'll just say amen on that . But there's, yeah, there's just, there's just so many rabbit holes can go down there. Yeah. Jeffrey: Yeah. It's, and, and it's, it's super frustrating. I mean, like, I, I grew up very much encouraged to, to look out for false doctrine and, you know, watch out for, for people that that might be trying to lead me astray and, and you know, just like be, be very play defensive when it came to [00:57:00]When it came to identifying with other people, and, you know, to, to some degree, I still, I still have a, a lot of that baggage today.But I think that if you are, if you gate yourself and if you gate the ability to commune with other people behind making sure that you agree on things, then you just, not only, not only does that result in just less love shared in the world, which I think is a negative, but you also just cut yourself off from so many connections that you cut otherwise have.And, and yeah, like that's this, this idea of trying to make sure that someone is clear before, before being able to relate to them or before being able to think of them compassionately, I think is it's a pretty big problem. Mm. De'Vannon: [00:58:00] What he said, y'all exactly how he said it. So, so in your book till you get very clear about detailing, like where the Bible came from, what it is, and like you said, what it's for mm-hmm.and you say in there that the Bible didn't, and I'll paraphrase here, like basically magically fall out of heaven. No. So growing up, and this is a good thing because your book really does that high level view because in there you talk about how it's important you compare the Bible to like a big 600,000 piece jigsaw puzzle.Cause apparently many words are in the Bible. And so you're driving the point home is that you have to get, you have to step very far. To get clear on the full scope of the Bible, what it is historically, how it's organized in your book. You know, you talk about who really wrote the Bible, you know, there's so many books we don't know the authors, you know.Yeah. From this time, you know, just cause someone's name on the book doesn't mean they, it doesn't mean that they wrote it. So, growing up in church, [00:59:00] you know, I used to think, you know, they always say the words divinely inspired. So, and this, it just made it seem like the book was always there. So, so what can you tell us about like, how the bible, how it's composed and it's, you know?Sure, Jeffrey: sure. That is a, that is a huge question. Let me, let me try and, and distill this real quick. How the Bible's composed. I think that in order, in order for us to talk about that, like the, the Bible. That we referenced today. And let's, let's just say, say it's the Protestant Bible. For, for the purpose of this conversation you have the, the Old Testament, which that's the first like three quarters of the Bible.That is that is a collection of texts [01:00:00] that the Israelites preserved that in order to show their relationship with their God. New Testament was composed and preserved to help Christians and churches understand the teachings of Jesus and what to do about them. How were, how was, how those two works were composed is kind of different.So let's start with, let's start with the Old Testament. Old Testament. You've got oral traditions. That, that people were just sharing, you know parents to, to children. Eventually these oral traditions become written traditions these written traditions get compiled into these literary documents of, of various types.[01:01:00] Then these documents came together as part of larger literary works until eventually we have the tark which is, you know, the, the Hebrew Bible the, the books of the Old Testament. And so you have these who have these works of writing that fit together as a larger literary masterpiece. And so when we're talking about the Old Testament, like how is it composed?A lot of these works are older than the documents that we have today, because like they, they've just been preserved and and edited and, and I don't say edited in a way that n necessarily means, like they were, they were, it's, it's not like you edit a document before you, you send it off [01:02:00] to, to a client or, or your teacher or something like that.Like these are, these are just works that were in the works for, for a very long time. The writers had their rhetorical agendas and then they, they joined this larger library for the New Testament. It's, that happened over a quicker period of. Followers of Jesus wrote down things that Jesus had said and then also wrote down things that Jesus followers said and did.And so these documents got passed around a lot by early groups of Jesus followers called churches. Eventually, a couple hundred years later, by about the, the fourth century in the common era, most like every, every book that we have in the New Testament today was relatively known and used by [01:03:00] churches.It wasn't until over a thousand years later that we actually got this definitive cannon of what books belong in what we call the New Testament today. So long, long answer to that question. Old Testament oral traditions People speaking out on, on behalf of Israel's God. People preserving that in order to tell that story of Israel and their God.New Testament got this person called Jesus. People write down what he wrote. People write down what his followers did. And eventually the useful documents or the ones that a lot of people found useful got preserved today. De'Vannon: Thank you for that breakdown. I think you did an incredible and spectacular outstanding job.And so thank you . Woo. And so, absolutely. And so there's a video on your YouTube channel called [01:04:00] 12 Non-Trivial Facts about the Bible, and I feel like as you said in that video, you wish you had known these facts before you got started reading it. Yeah, I think that that's a very good video as well.You know, I'm driving all these points home to make the point that when people are reading the Bible, either before they start or if they never thought of it like this before. So really take a step back and take that high level view, you know, and see historically how did this all come together? You know, you know what's what.And so the last thing that we're gonna talk about is we begin to wrap up here. You know, in your book, a part that I felt like was very special was how you talked about like the covenants. Mm-hmm. you know, you talked about the covenant of Abraham with Israel, Moses, you know, with David and how we have our covenant in Jesus Christ.And so, you know, this, this beckons back to the whole point of God trying to reach out and communicate with us, get on our level. The fact that he was willing to even come down in the whirlwind and [01:05:00] talk to Job, read him for filth basically, you know, and then turn around and bless him the way he did. You know, God is Big O God.He doesn't have to, to to talk to us. You know, like he's our equal, you know, if he doesn't want to, but he's been trying to just have a relationship with us, you know, the whole time. You know? And so I appreciate it, the fact that you highlighted all the different covenants in what they mean. Jeffrey: I'm glad, I'm glad that was helpful.And, you know, for, for those listening, this is, this is one of the things that I do in the book to try and make this enormous collection of documents, the Bible a little bit easier to, to grasp. If you think of, you know, this 600,000 piece jigsaw puzzle I pull out four, four parts of the Bible that can almost be used as the corner pieces.And that can kind of frame [01:06:00] the way the way the Bible fits together in your mind in, in a pretty, in a pretty straightforward fashion. So those, those four covenants are the, and, and a, and a covenant kind of using antiquated language here. But the Bible's an old book, so deal with it, I guess.De'Vannon: deal with it. . Jeffrey: Yeah. So so you've, you've got these, these old like solemn agreements that that God makes with with a handful of figures in Israel's history. And, you know, Devana, and obviously you've already read this, but these, these all relate to God's presence in the world and God's blessing for the people of the world.[01:07:00] And so understanding these four high points between God and Abraham, Between God and Moses and the nation of Israel, between God and David and Jerusalem. And then also between God and Christ and and the whole world. Understanding those points in the relationship really bring the rest of the Bible into focus.De'Vannon: Yeah. Yo, this book is practical. It doesn't have to be this overly spiritual woo woo thing, you know, it's practical. I wrote a blog on my website called The Common Sense of the 10 Commandments to break down how practical God thinks, you know, when he tells us to do something. It's for like a practical, physical reason.It's not just like, For fuck sakes or for rules sake, you know, or just to, you know, just to like have shit. So I'm gonna throw a little bit of shade at, at the Catholic church before I give you the floor for the last word. I feel like so much shit about all, you know, most organized [01:08:00] religions and especially the Catholic church, is just so extra for no purpose that I can articulate, you know, what the fuck are all the flowy robes and the, the goddamn processes, the protocols, all the pump, all the circumstance.You know, I, I think all of that is to just like, mind fuck you and to put you in a, a state of suggestibility so that you can't, you're focusing on so much shit. You can't really be critical of them. I just, I think that they're just like so over the top. And for me of all people to say something over the top, that is a big damn deal because I am an extra bitch , you know, all day long.I am a Sagittarius and I don't know when to quit. And so for me to say, you know, I got four felonies to prove that. And so for me to, so for me to say the Catholic church has gone too far, That that's a big deal. So I just wanted to throw a little bit of shade at them for not being simple. And practical and easy to understand like Jesus isJeffrey: Turns out [01:09:00] turns out running an empire is a little bit more complex than preaching a sermon sometimes. De'Vannon: Oh my God, when, when you say that, I'm getting parallels between the Galactic empire and Emperor Palpetine and the Pope. I think they're the same people. I know it . Jeffrey: It's Palpetine, not papain. Which sounds like some sort of only milks chocolate milk mixed chocolate milk drink.De'Vannon: Do the Pope is the Sy Lord. He is the Sy Lord. this whole time . Well, Jeffrey: no. Well, no. Hold on. I'm Pope Francis. Has gotta be the nicest sy Lord in the universe though, if that's, if that's the case. I mean like, he seems like a pretty nice guy. De'Vannon: That's until he executes order 66. It's[01:10:00]Jeffrey: It's, it's funny like the, you know, I, I can appreciate, I, I appreciate tradition. I think tradition has so much, has, so, like, there, there's, there's so much of what's cool about being human bound up in tradition gating understanding behind, behind behind regalia or, or behind I guess an ordeal.Can I, I don't think that's as good.De'Vannon: Okay, so tradition's cute, but I see too much sacrifice of people on behalf of the traditions, you know, is my thing. And then I [01:11:00] don't get where it comes from. So did God tell them to write out all these prayers and all of these things that you have to do before you qualify to be baptized or before you qualify?I heard the word say, as long as you have faith you can believe, not that you have to attend a catechism class. You know? So, Jeffrey: yeah. And that, and that kind of gets, that gets back to what we were talking about earlier, right? Like using rubrics to show that you're good instead of, instead of what's within, like how, how do we, how do we get people to behave sort of love for each other and for De'Vannon: the world?I say, take all the robes off and just put on fucking clothes and sit down and say what you got to say, . I'm done with it. There we go. But with that, Jeffrey, I thank you. You heard it Jeffrey: here first, folks, . De'Vannon: So Jeffrey, thank you for your time. I want you to again, his website is overview bible.com. His YouTube channel [01:12:00] is the same.The book is The Beginner's Guide on How to Read the Bible, A non preachy, jargon-free handbook to what the Bible is, where it came from, and what it's all about. The last word, anything you wanna say to all these beautiful bitches in the world? . Jeffrey: Hello? . No, no. The last word. The, the last word should not be.Hello. No. Thank you so much, Devon, for, for having me here. I, I absolutely love talking about this. And you know, if this, if you're listening and this makes you curious about, about this book, I just want you to know this is. The Bible isn't going anywhere. It's been around for a long time. And it's something that you can know just as well as anyone who believes it.And you, you don't necessarily need to, you don't need to change anything about yourself in order to understand what, what this is. It's [01:13:00] at the end of the day, this is information. This is something that is important to a lot of people and you, you don't need to adopt what someone else says about this information in order for you to know it.It's very knowable.De'Vannon: Hallelujah tabernacle and praise .Thank you all so much for taking time to listen to the Sex Drugs and Jesus podcast. It really means everything to me. Look, if you love the show, you can find more information and resources at SexDrugsAndJesus.com or wherever you listen to your podcast. Feel free to reach out to me directly at DeVannon@SexDrugsAndJesus.com and on Twitter and Facebook as well.My name is De'Vannon, and it's been wonderful being your host today. And just remember that everything is [01:1

Stacy & Stacy take a long look at the Sermon on the Mount in light of today's Gospel reading in Matthew 7. Having lived through severe abuse herself, Stacy F. reminds us not to judge people by their worst moments, because we do not know all that they are enduring. She reviews the other lessons from Christ in Scripture, and then they discuss Mary's perfect embodiment of faith and why the Church honors her as the purest realization of faith. Links from This EpisodeCatechism of the Catholic Church, 148-149What's the difference between a "Catholic Bible" and a "Protestant Bible"?Thursday of the First Week of Advent | USCCB

Fr. Mark helps us understand the difference between a "Catholic" Bible and a "Protestant" Bible. This teaching accompanies the "What's Next?" teaching series. Notes for this teaching can be found here: https://www.ourladyoftheisle.com/post/appendix-for-november-13-2022

Heartland's Tim Benson is joined by Mark A. Noll, Professor of History Emeritus at the University of Notre Dame, to discuss his new book, America's Book: The Rise and Decline of a Bible Civilization, 1794-1911. They chat about how the Bible decisively shaped American national history even as that history influenced the use of Scripture, and how a strongly Protestant Bible civilization was fractured by debates over slavery, contested by growing numbers of non-Protestants, and torn apart by the Civil War. They also talk about how the more religiously plural period from Reconstruction to the early 20th Century saw Scripture become a much more fragmented, though still significant, force in American culture.Get the book here:  https://global.oup.com/academic/product/americas-book-9780197623466?q=america%27s%20book&lang=en&cc=usShow Notes:Wall Street Journal: D.G. Hart – “‘America's Book' Review: The Word Out of Season” https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-book-review-the-word-out-of-season-11651009649

Heartland's Tim Benson is joined by Mark A. Noll, Professor of History Emeritus at the University of Notre Dame, to discuss his new book, America's Book: The Rise and Decline of a Bible Civilization, 1794-1911. They chat about how the Bible decisively shaped American national history even as that history influenced the use of Scripture, and how a strongly Protestant Bible civilization was fractured by debates over slavery, contested by growing numbers of non-Protestants, and torn apart by the Civil War. They also talk about how the more religiously plural period from Reconstruction to the early 20th Century saw Scripture become a much more fragmented, though still significant, force in American culture.Get the book here:  https://global.oup.com/academic/product/americas-book-9780197623466?q=america%27s%20book&lang=en&cc=usShow Notes:Wall Street Journal: D.G. Hart – “‘America's Book' Review: The Word Out of Season” https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-book-review-the-word-out-of-season-11651009649

This week we begin with the question of origin. Where did the Bible come from? Did it fall out of the sky on two tablets while various writers got possessed by the Spirit and translated these tablets into our Old and New Testament? Why do Catholics and Orthodox Bibles have more books than the Protestant Bible? Who decided which books made it in and which books did not? What is the cannon? Did God write the Bible or did humans write it? Did God command genocide or did a community say God commanded genocide?

Mother Miriam Live - September 13, 2022 The Republican party has set out to destroy the traditional family (joining the Democrats) with their "Respect for Marriage Act" Mother addresses a wife's concerns about her seemingly abusive husband Is it bad to want a Pius X chapel in your area? Defending yourself and your family in the face of tyranny Why it's so hard to take the USCCB's Eucharistic Revival seriously Attending a non-Catholic service at a Protestant Bible chapel church Are traditional Catholics too strict and harsh about the Latin Mass?

Questions Covered: 01:05 – Is there any reference to Papal infallibility in the Old Testament? 11:10 – What is your favorite version of the Bible and why? 14:26 – Is there Biblical proof for the Eucharist? 18:27 – In Matthew 27, what is meant by the passage that says, “many saints who slept rose from the dead”? 21:49 – How many people in the Bible are referred to as the “Son of Man”? 33:00 – Why does the Catholic Bible have more books than the Protestant Bible? 36:19 – What is the Catholic understanding of Revelation 2:9? 42:15 – Were there any exorcists in the Old Testament? 46:40 – How do I answer my Protestant friend who claims that only in “66 books” is the truth of the Bible? 49:15 – The parable of the wedding feast this past week has me concerned about merit and salvation. Can you explain it further? …

Fr. Mike focuses on the book of Tobit today and explains why this beautiful book is missing from non-Catholic Bibles. He dives into the history behind the arrangement of the Bible, and why the Catholic Bible includes 73 books. Todays's readings are Isaiah 3-4, Tobit 3-4, and Proverbs 9:13-18. For the complete reading plan, visit ascensionpress.com/bibleinayear. Please note: The Bible contains adult themes that may not be suitable for children - parental discretion is advised.

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Confusing informational trust with relational trust can lead to all kinds of trouble. Steve and Nathan talk about how seeing the cracks and seams in the bible can deal a blow to our faith, or how it can change it for the better. Is there more to the Bible than Biblical Scholarship and data? Is there more to the stars than atoms and molecules? Rocks have been tumbled, results were underwhelming. Steve is TikTok Famous (https://www.tiktok.com/@heystevemartin?lang=en) Nathan would not deal well with fame Welcome @Maklelan (https://www.tiktok.com/@maklelan?lang=en) fans! Nathan doesn't understand Geopolitics Steve thinking about money, recruiters gives Nathan an idea (https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Podcast%20Editor&l=anywhere&vjk=cb70f535f4f5de48&advn=4317892059899432) It's not personal, it's business: Looking for ultimate values in faith groups is revealing. Nathan continues contra-certainty crusade IdolatryAn idol is usually a good thing that we make ultimate. We say, "Unless I have that, I am nothing."— Timothy Keller (@timkellernyc) February 16, 2014 Book: The Sin of Certainty by Peter Enns (https://www.amazon.com/Sin-Certainty-Desires-Correct-Beliefs/dp/0062272098/ref=sr_1_1?crid=22UDI8G49SL8V&keywords=the+sin+of+certainty&qid=1650382977&s=books&sprefix=the+sin+of+certainty%2Cstripbooks%2C110&sr=1-1) Trust vs. Certainty Hebrews 11:1 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%2011:1-2&version=NIV) Data over Dogma (https://www.followingthefire.com/47) Buddhism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism) Discovery of disease spread though water (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1854_Broad_Street_cholera_outbreak) What stars are made of (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star#Chemical_composition) Materialism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism) Catholic Bible different from Protestant Bible (https://www.christianitytoday.com/history/2008/august/why-are-protestant-and-catholic-bibles-different.html) All scripture is useful for… (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Timothy%203%3A16-17&version=NIV) If I know all things but have not love…. (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+13%3A1-3&version=NIV) Jesus rebukes biblical scholars for getting priorities wrong: Matthew 23:23-24 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+23%3A23-24&version=NRSV) Canonization (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_canon) Common Book of Prayer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Common_Prayer) Book: Faith After Doubt by Brian McLaren (https://www.amazon.com/Faith-After-Doubt-Beliefs-Stopped/dp/1250262771) Greatest Command: Matthew 3:36-40 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2022%3A36-40&version=NIV) Possible geographic errors in Mark? (https://www.reddit.com/r/AcademicBiblical/comments/e5iiew/question_about_current_scholarly_consensus_on/) Genitive vs. Dative (https://daedalus.umkc.edu/FirstGreekBook/JWW_FGB3.html#:~:text=The%20genitive%20expresses%20the%20relationships,with%20what%20something%20is%20done.) Morocco mosque (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Youssef_Mosque) Phil 2:6-11 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians%202%3A6-11&version=NIV) Video: Raiders of the Lost ark (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcR9k8o4I0w)

In episode 4 of season 3, Prof. Kathryn Schifferdecker and Katie Langston talk with Kristofer Phan Coffman about the different between the Catholic and Protestant Bible. Show notes are available at https://enterthebible.org/audio/3-4-whats-the-difference-between-the-catholic-and-protestant-bible Watch the video version at https://youtu.be/npFiChUVPVgSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.