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Two-time Oscar winner Kevin Spacey drops by Club Random for a conversation that goes exactly where you'd expect—and plenty of places you wouldn't. Bill doesn't let him dodge the tough questions, pressing Spacey on the allegations that derailed his career, the court cases that cleared him, and what it's like trying to rebuild a life from what he calls "show business jail." The two cover Hollywood's double standards, Jack Lemmon's mentorship, therapy, the Playboy Mansion, and Netflix shelving one of Spacey's completed films. Spacey also unveils what feels like an entire repertory company of impressions—Johnny Carson, Jack Lemmon, and more—as the conversation veers into Roman history, classic cinema, Dick Van Dyke's workout routine at 100, and why he thinks his best work may still be ahead of him. Subscribe to the Club Random YouTube channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/clubrandompodcast?sub_confirmation=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch episodes ad-free – subscribe to Bill Maher's Substack: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://billmaher.substack.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you listen: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Buy Club Random Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clubrandom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices ABOUT CLUB RANDOM Bill Maher rewrites the rules of podcasting the way he did in television in this series of one on one, hour long conversations with a wide variety of unexpected guests in the undisclosed location called Club Random. There's a whole big world out there that isn't about politics and Bill and his guests—from Bill Burr and Jerry Seinfeld to Jordan Peterson, Quentin Tarantino and Neil DeGrasse Tyson—talk about all of it.  For advertising opportunities please email: PodcastPartnerships@Studio71us.com ABOUT BILL MAHER Bill Maher was the host of “Politically Incorrect” (Comedy Central, ABC) from 1993-2002, and for the last fourteen years on HBO's “Real Time,” Maher's combination of unflinching honesty and big laughs have garnered him 40 Emmy nominations. Maher won his first Emmy in 2014 as executive producer for the HBO series, “VICE.” In October of 2008, this same combination was on display in Maher's uproarious and unprecedented swipe at organized religion, “Religulous.” Maher has written five bestsellers: “True Story,” “Does Anybody Have a Problem with That? Politically Incorrect's Greatest Hits,” “When You Ride Alone, You Ride with Bin Laden,” “New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer,” and most recently, “The New New Rules: A Funny Look at How Everybody But Me Has Their Head Up Their Ass.” FOLLOW CLUB RANDOM https://www.clubrandom.com https://www.facebook.com/Club-Random-101776489118185 https://twitter.com/clubrandom_ https://www.instagram.com/clubrandompodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@clubrandompodcast FOLLOW BILL MAHER https://www.billmaher.com https://twitter.com/billmaher https://www.instagram.com/billmaher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On today's show I welcome Mark Malkoff to discuss the behind-the-scenes reality of hosting The Tonight Show. In Love Johnny Carson, Mark's research reveals a grueling early format where Johnny Carson performed two separate monologues across an hour-and-45-minute runtime. While the media frequently labeled Carson cold, our conversation highlights a shy, private man who still maintained a down-to-earth Midwestern sensibility—driving himself without security, signing his own fan mail, and masking immense personal tragedies from his audience. As a massive fan of Dick Cavett, I especially enjoyed discussing Cavett's time writing for Carson and how his conversational style pioneered the modern interview format. Great book, great chat!Thanks for listening.Kyler---Episode Links:Purchase Love Johnny CarsonMark's WebsiteThe Carson Podcast

Popp Talk with Mary Jane Popp Sweet Potatoes, Holistic Health, Anti-Aging and a Life of Many Voices Dr. Susan Smith Jones & Jim Messkimen Sweet Potatoes, Many Voices, and the Art of Living Well A Two-Part Hour of Health, Humor, and Performance In this episode of Popp Talk, host Mary Jane Popp presents a two-guest program that moves from holistic nutrition to show-business creativity. The first half features Dr. Susan Smith Jones, who discusses the health benefits of sweet potatoes and her book A Hug in a Mug. The second half features actor, voice artist, impressionist, and performer Jim Messkimen, who talks about impressions, improvisation, acting, audio books, art, and his famous mother, Marion Ross of Happy Days. Dr. Susan Smith Jones and the Power of Sweet Potatoes Mary Jane opens by introducing Dr. Susan Smith Jones as a longtime holistic health expert, author, educator, and advocate for optimum nutrition and balanced living. Dr. Jones says the featured “sweet treat” of the episode is the sweet potato, one of her ten favorite superfoods. She explains that sweet potatoes are often confused with yams, but that they stand apart nutritionally because of their color, antioxidants, vitamins, fiber, minerals, and versatility in meals. A Nutritional Powerhouse From Head to Toe Dr. Jones explains that orange sweet potatoes are rich in beta carotene, which converts into vitamin A and supports vision, immunity, and skin health. She also discusses vitamin C, vitamin E, potassium, fiber, and anthocyanins, especially in purple sweet potatoes. These nutrients, she says, help support cardiovascular health, blood pressure, digestion, gut bacteria, immune defense, brain function, eye health, inflammation reduction, skin elasticity, collagen production, and healthy hair growth. Gut Health, Inflammation, and Everyday Immunity A major part of the health conversation centers on digestion and inflammation. Dr. Jones explains that sweet potatoes contain both soluble and insoluble fiber, supporting healthy gut bacteria while also keeping digestion moving. She connects gut health to overall immune function and explains that antioxidants in sweet potatoes may help reduce systemic inflammation, which she describes as connected to many diseases. She also emphasizes sweet potatoes as immune-supporting food during cold, flu, and COVID seasons. Easy Ways to Eat Sweet Potatoes Dr. Jones gives several practical ways to use sweet potatoes in everyday food. She suggests baking them simply with a little salt and extra virgin olive oil, spiralizing them into pasta, steaming and chilling them for smoothies, adding them to pancakes, salads, soups, muffins, breads, puddings, and desserts, or slicing them into baked chips. She especially recommends a bright orange soup made from sweet potatoes, carrots, and butternut squash, which she says is rich in beta carotene and supportive for vision, immunity, inflammation, and overall health. A Hug in a Mug and Holistic Living Mary Jane asks Dr. Jones about her latest book, A Hug in a Mug, whose subtitle focuses on fruits, vegetables, juices, soups, spices, teas, and healthy living extras. Dr. Jones says the book offers natural approaches for ailments from head to toe, along with more than one hundred recipes and practical guidance on healthy living. She also mentions related topics such as intermittent fasting, cold therapy, motivation, sleep, exercise, and injury prevention. She directs listeners to SusanSmithJones.com, where they can learn about her books, newsletter, X updates, and personalized autographed copies. Jim Messkimen and a Life of Many Voices After the health segment, Mary Jane welcomes Jim Messkimen, describing him as an extraordinary impressionist, actor, voice-over artist, and the son of Happy Days actress Marion Ross. Jim explains that although Mary Jane heard he had thirty-eight voices, he now does well over one hundred. He says he is always listening, collecting, and analyzing voices, especially from politics, entertainment, and public life. His impressions include figures such as George W. Bush, Morgan Freeman, Jack Nicholson, Robin Williams, Alan Rickman, Judi Dench, Johnny Carson, Jimmy Stewart, Patrick Stewart, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden. Happy Days, Jumping the Shark, and Growing Up Around Talent Mary Jane asks Jim about his connection to Happy Days, and he explains that he appeared in the famous “jump the shark” episode, where Fonzie waterskied over a shark while the cast visited Hollywood. Jim says he was the actor on the beach who announced the shark. He also discusses his mother Marion Ross, noting that she had a good ear for dialects and mimicry and that her tolerance and encouragement helped support his own interest in voices. He says Marion is doing well and approaching her ninety-sixth birthday. Improvisation, Acting, and the Comfort of the Unknown Jim talks about his love of improvisation and says he is often more comfortable improvising than memorizing strict, scripted lines. He credits his training at the National Improv Theatre in New York and reflects on working in settings where exact wording matters, including The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. He also discusses his appearances on Whose Line Is It Anyway? explaining that improvisation is not as mysterious as people think because ordinary conversation is improvised all day long. Impressions as Acting, Listening, and Physical Transformation Jim explains that impressions are not only about vocal sound. He listens for pitch, rhythm, attack, word choices, physical posture, facial structure, and the emotional character of the person he is portraying. He says some voices come naturally because they fit his vocal range, while others require physical adjustment and practice. He uses Alan Rickman as an example of a voice requiring a specific internal and external shape. For Jim, the goal is to become the person enough that their thoughts and speech patterns begin to flow naturally. Audio Books, Writers of the Future, and Galaxy Press Mary Jane and Jim discuss his work with Galaxy Press and the L. Ron Hubbard Writers of the Future anthology. Jim says he, his wife, and his daughter have narrated stories for recent anthology volumes, including volume 40, and he encourages listeners to check out the audiobook or physical book. He also describes directing the large-cast audiobook version of Battlefield Earth, a nearly thousand-page project that took about nine months to record, involved many actors, music, and sound effects, and won an audio award. Art, Cartooning, and the Creative Path Mary Jane asks who Jim Messkimen is beyond the voices, and Jim says he is an artist at heart. His first love was drawing and cartooning, and he once imagined becoming a cartoonist. He drew for school papers and yearbooks, worked at Hanna-Barbera as a storyboard assistant, became a professional illustrator and cartoonist, and later studied classical art in Spain and Northern California. Although acting eventually became his main career, he still paints, draws, and shares artwork occasionally through his website and social media. Closing With Creativity and Curiosity The interview closes with Jim sharing where listeners can find him, including JimMesskimen.com, social media, and his online courses for impressions and voice acting. Mary Jane also expresses interest in having him back to discuss artificial intelligence and its possible impact on voices, performance, and thought. She ends the show by praising Jim's talent and closing with her familiar reminder to “live simply, laugh often, love deeply, and above all else, dare to dream.”

The biggest opportunities often sit in the work everyone else is afraid to touch. In this episode of the IC-DISC Show, I sit down with Scott Abels, a CPA and business valuation specialist in Austin, to talk about why he built his practice around estate, trust, and gift valuations, the one area most professionals avoid. Scott spent 25 years in corporate finance at Dell and Motorola before launching his own firm. He moved from CFO consulting into valuation, then narrowed further into estate and trust work, an area with its own IRS code sections, examination rates above 20% on large estates, and the highest error rate he's seen. He walked through the landmines, retained rights and marketability discounts among them, where a single mistake can wipe out a client's discounts entirely. What struck me was his case for getting the valuation expert in during planning, not after, when it's often too late to fix anything. The same logic shows up in his turnaround standard of 30 to 45 days and the dozen questions he tells attorneys to ask before hiring anyone. Scott also revealed a project he'd been quietly working on, a plain-English book for Texas attorneys, and his answer for how the busiest professionals actually want to be helped. SHOW HIGHLIGHTS * The riches really are in the niches: narrowing from CFO work to a field with fewer than 10 true specialists turned a commodity service into a moat. * The IRS examines large estates more than 20% of the time, because it knows that's where taxpayers try to avoid taxes, so the valuation has to hold up. * Get your valuation expert involved during estate planning, not after; retained rights and other landmines often can't be fixed once the structure is set. * A buy-sell agreement signed and executed perfectly still won't bind the IRS, which weighs economic reality over legal form every time. * Overstep on discounts and the penalty isn't just losing them; the IRS can throw out your whole valuation and re-value with no discounts at all. * Before hiring a valuation pro, ask their guaranteed turnaround time and whether they offer audit defense; vague answers signal it's a side service, not their focus. Contact Details LinkedIn - Scott Abels LINKS Show NotesBe a Guest About IC-DISC AllianceAbout ETG Valuations TRANSCRIPT (AI transcript provided as supporting material and may contain errors) Dave: Good morning, Scott. Welcome to the podcast. Scott: Thanks, Dave. Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to visiting with you. Dave: Sure. So where are you located today? What part of the world are you calling into from today? Scott: I'm in Austin, Texas. Cloudy, Austin, Texas this morning and just up the road from you a bit. Dave: Okay, well, that sounds good. So I've been really excited to have you on here. You were a guest a while back. You've kind of had some updates that I want to talk about. So why don't we just talk out. Scott: Talk. Dave: Give me a little bit of your background, you know, where are you from, what you're, you know, how'd you get to this point in your career? Scott: Sure. So I'm a Texas boy, born and raised. Went off to college, majored in accounting, got my accounting degree at the University of Houston and went, went straight into industry. Got my CPA shortly after. After I graduated and went into industry. And I spent about 25 years in what I call corporate America. Dell, Motorola, in corporate finance. And you know, most of my background is running a business division of a larger business. So it's really understanding how businesses work, how the day to day operation works, how's. How does the business model work from a financial perspective? Because I did that for about 25 years. Started my own consulting business about 15 years ago now. Dave: Okay. Scott: Initially, I started out as a CFO consultant, just kind of using the things that I learned in corporate America for smaller businesses in the. Mainly in the Austin area. And really quickly I, I had a client early on who needed help with business valuation, wanted to buy out a minority partner, and so I went away and got the valuation credential, the cva. It's essentially a CPA for business valuation. Dave: Okay. Scott: And I did a couple of these business valuations and I realized several things really quickly, Dave. I realized that these are like business valuation is like a puzzle. It's like a little business puzzle. And it's just perfectly suited to my background in understanding how businesses work. So I really, I like the work and it's well suited to my background. Other things I realized is as a CFO in Austin, I'm probably one of a thousand. Lots of competition, really. A commoditized service at the time that I started out, probably still is. As a business valuation professional, though, I'm probably one of 15 or 20. Okay. And there's probably only, you know, there's probably fewer than 10 of those that specialize and do nothing but business valuation. It's much more of a niche and you know, Much more of a specialized industry. And it just was a great fit with my background. So that's where I am today. I'm specialized in business valuation. And, you know, my background as a CPA and in corporate America has really kind of lent itself well to what I do currently. Dave: Okay. No, I appreciate that oversight. And, you know, my business is somewhat similar that, you know, there's a saying the riches are in the niches, and I'm convinced. But I find most professionals don't have the courage to really truly focus on a niche because to say yes to the niche, you have to say no to everything else. And so I really respect, you know, niching know, you know, kind of highly focused on the valuation. But then it sounds like you've done. You've decided to niche even further. So talk to me about that. I see what's in your background. I assume that's got something to do with does. Scott: It does. And you know, Dave, I'd like to tell you that I planned this whole thing out and that it was all this, you know, deep thought and yeah, this business research and everything else. But it really just has kind of evolved along the way, you know, from doing CFO work, which is pretty broad, to. To doing business. Valuation was, you know, really a specialization move there. But it made sense for my background and it was a, you know, a good opportunity based on. On, you know, what my skill set was and what I found now after doing valuations for several years is that one area that I think has the, you know, maybe a greater need than any other is estate trust and gift valuations. And, you know, the reason, there's really three reasons that I can think of. One is that it's. It has its own specialized IRS rules and regulations for estate trust and gift. So it's almost like there's every other valuation and then there's estate trust and gift that has its own specialized code sections, and it's very different from typical valuations. Another reason is that the IRS really scrutinizes estate, trust and gift valuations more than any other. So, for example, large estates, they are examined greater than 20% of the time when their returns are. Their tax returns are. That's a really high examination rate. And the reason is because the IRS knows that there's ways in there that taxpayers can avoid taxes. And so, as you might imagine, the IRS is not a big fan of taxpayers avoiding taxes. So they're going to examine those, especially the big estates. So specialized rules. The IRS loves to look at these. And the last reason is this is an area that, where evaluation folks make mistakes probably more than any other is what my research has told me. You know, it cries out for somebody to really specialize in this kind of work. And because, like I said, just because not everybody can do this. The problem is a lot of folks try to do this as a one off. And that's where we really end up hearing the horror stories about how the IRS picks these things apart. So for me, where a lot of people see this as an area of risk they don't want to touch. It's an area that I run to because it, you know, again with my specialization in this area, it allows me to work in the here and to see it as a real opportunity to serve clients better than what they might normally get from their, from their okay CPA or from, you know, from many other valuation professionals. Dave: Yeah, and I suppose it's a little bit like you, like a generalist valuation person. Doing a state trust or gift valuation is a little bit like a corporate attorney who really is great at corporate work. M and a contract work. And then they have a buddy who says, hey, we need to do this, we need to set up some, you know, this is this trust and we need to do some gift work. And the attorney says, yeah, sure, no problem. Right? I mean, technically they're qualified, right. They're a member of the state bar, they have a law degree. And so, you know, and the IRS recognizes that degree. But is it kind of a similar thing where you just, people just don't know what they don't know? Scott: It is. And I just look back to when I started doing these, I didn't know about all of the different code sections either. I wasn't doing these things at the time. And when I started doing these a few years ago, I realized, you know, some of the specialized knowledge and code sections that you have, and after doing them for a number of years now, I think I realized it even more. And it just is, it's a flashpoint area for the irs. They know that there is a lot of potential to go in here and claw back revenue because of things like discounts and retained rights. Things that don't come up in normal, you know, discounts come up in normal valuations, but not the way they do in estate and trust and gift valuations. And it's a, it's an area where you can, you know, clients can take advantage of the rules to save themselves significant taxes, but if they don't do it properly or if they, if they overstep the penalties are huge. So not only do they lose what they thought they had in discounts, for example, but the IRS may completely invalidate their whole valuation and go back and value it for them with no discounts. So the penalties are huge here. Which, again, I think is a reason that I see this as a huge opportunity to help clients navigate what is really a minefield here. It's a, it's an opportunity, but it can potentially be a huge downside if it's not done properly. And being able to offer that kind of specialized knowledge, I think is very valuable to clients and especially to their attorney partners. Dave: Yeah, I can understand that. And, you know, is this is when you get, when you pick up valuation clients in this space, is it like it was in the. When you're doing general value valuations where you just get a call from somebody out of the blue and they say, hey, Scott, you know, I've got this trust set up and I need evaluation done. Is that how the clients come to you? Is it just the actual end user calling you, or does it come to you some other mechanism? Scott: So it's. The short answer is no. It's seldom the end user because the end users don't usually know what they don't know. Right. They are reliant upon an attorney. So in almost every case it's going to be in a state and trust attorney who's going to recognize there's a triggering event where they need to get evaluation done and they'll reach out to me or to another valuation professional at that point in time. And so that's where the whole process usually starts. Interestingly enough, what I share with estate and trust attorneys when I visit with them, have a coffee shop conversation, is that it's even better, more advantageous to them and their clients to get their valuation person, regardless of who that is, to get them involved on the planning side way at the beginning of this, when the estate and trust attorney is putting together the whole, you know, the whole package of here's what we're going to do, here's the way we're going to set these things up, and here's how it's all going to flow. Because, you know, sometimes what we find is we do that valuation way later, way after the estate planning has been done, and we find these issues like retained, retained rights, for example, it's too late, then there's nothing else we can do. It's already, it's going to do, you know, it's going to, it's going to be a negative for the clients at that point. Whereas if we had been involved on the front end of the planning in this thing, we might have been able to say, hey, look, the IRS is going to look at that and they're going to disallow that as far as a tax advantage goes. So let's find a different way, you know, to work around that. But all that work, regardless, it comes in through attorneys or their CPAs. Client CPAs. Attorneys and CPAs who have business owner clients who experience a triggering event. And that's how we get involved. Dave: Yeah. And I know, I know that attorneys get a bad rap in certain circles, but I know that you and I, one, you know, we've known each other a while and one thing we each have in common is we, I think in a different life, either or both of us could have very well gone to law school, practice law. I know you have a brother who's an attorney, but I think early in your professional career, I think you had an insight into the legal profession that I think helped develop that appreciation for the profession. Is that right? So tell me about that. I know there's a story, but I really don't remember much about it. Scott: So you've been digging into my background here, Dave, I can tell. And you've done a good job. So early on. You're exactly right. Early on, I was from a small town in Texas called Bay City, about an hour and a half southwest of Houston there, and small town. And I worked for an attorney who was a family friend, a well known guy in the community. We knew him from church and like family and everything, and he was kind enough to let me work for him as a small one man office during the summer and during breaks and I got exposure to the legal profession like, like you could never get today, you know, here I am, a kid in college, don't have, I don't have any kind of legal skills or background or anything, but. But the one thing I was curious and willing to kind of jump in and wanted to learn stuff. And the attorney's name was Lynn Grebe. He was a general practitioner. So I got to see estate, trust wills, I got to see general business stuff. I got to see divorces, real estate, even did some small criminal defense stuff. So he's a generalist. Dave: Yeah. Small town, you kind of have to be. Scott: Right, exactly. So I went to the courthouse and filed suits and filed documents. I did some legal research, some, you know, lightweight legal research, but. And I listened, you know, I drafted documents for him and I just, I got to spend a lot of time with this guy. He was very generous. And as a one man office, I had access to him on a, you know, on a, you know, full day basis. So I got to see how he thinks, I got to see how attorneys work, I got to see how the legal profession works. And what I figured out was it really is, it's a very logical thinking kind of, you know, of a practice of a work. And, and it just thought, hey, you know, I, I like this. It's logical, it makes sense, Communication is really big. And I was always a good writer and I was just kind of drawn to that work. And I got to see again how a law office works early on. And Lynn was really a, was a professional role model for me. My parents were not professionals, business professionals. So he was, early on he was a role model for me as to how you conduct yourself, how you run a business. And, and I just really, you know, kept a lot of those things that I learned from him early on. And so I, you know, when I got out of college, got my cpa, when I started my own business working with attorneys, it was, it was kind of a natural, comfortable throwback for me, Remembering how law offices work, remembering how attorneys think, the time pressures, the schedules, all of those things that go in with being attorneys. It was kind of a, like I said, a natural return to some of those things for me. The other thing you didn't mention is, you're right, I've got a brother who's an attorney, I've got a son who's an attorney. You know, I can't do lawyer jokes anymore. I'm not allowed to do those without really offending family members. I've learned to, I've learned to huddle with attorneys on a regular basis at home and at work. Yeah. Dave: And the other thing that I've noticed About attorneys and CPAs is that, and I think it's part of what motivates them professionally. And when I tell this to attorneys and CPAs, they kind of all shucks, downplay it, but they really are, in many situations, they're a hero, they're a superhero to their clients. They are either saving them from a dire circumstance like, you know, the client was audited and they have to come in and clean up, or they were sued or they're doing planning that, that really relies on that. And I think one of the things that I especially appreciate about attorneys is they are this in some ways, you know, they're right up there, I think, with the cpa and you can make a case of which one is the more trusted advisor and maybe depends on the circumstances. But I've noticed the attorneys I've met, they really relish that fiduciary duty to their clients. They don't take it lightly. And they really are about the big picture and especially on the estate and trust side. I mean, they're doing work that, that's going to survive them and they're, they have to have a long term focus and a patience and a discipline and they have to be willing to push back on the client and say, yeah, I know it's helpful if we value this business at $5 million, but come on, Charlie, this business is worth $40 million. So maybe we can get some discount, you know, and maybe make it valued at 30 or 35 million. But we can't value it 5 million. And if we do, we're just asking for trouble. Scott: So anyway, that's kind of been my Dave: experience of working with attorneys. How has yours been? Have you had a similar experience? Scott: Yeah, and I go back to Lynn, Lynn Grievy, the attorney that I worked for. You just explained exactly the relationship that Lynn had with his clients. You know, these people looked up to him as a, you know, one of the, one of the towers of the community. He really was the guy that, that, you know, that looked out for the, you know, the common man in, in many ways, like you said. So he really was, you know, just a great figure in the little small town when I was there. And so many of the attorneys that I work with now, and especially estate and trust attorneys, Dave, as I work with these folks and, and I know a number of them and you know, and speak with them on a regular basis, even when we're not working on a particular evaluation case. And they are, like you said, they are not just doing a service for that client, they are doing something for that client's children and grandchildren oftentimes. And the clients are trusting these attorneys, especially the estate and trust attorneys, to know this mountain of regulation and to understand how to help them navigate based on their, their particular circumstances, something that's going to survive them and their children and maybe down to their grandchildren. So I agree with you. Most attorneys that I know relish what it is that they do because they can do something that not everyone can do for those clients and they love making clients happy. Dave: Yeah, yeah, that's certainly been my experience as well. Well, why don't we dive just a little bit more into the estate and trust and valuation discount. What are some other, like, if there's an estate attorney Listening to this, what are some other things that maybe they're not familiar with? As far as landmines or opportunities on the valuation side? What are some other things that come to mind? Scott: You know, it's interesting that you, that you mentioned that there's several IRS code sections that deal with very specialized rules. And so we actually, you know, have done some research to find out what are the rules that most often trip up, you know, attorneys and their clients. And we recently put together a white paper that I've shared with a lot of my trust and estate attorney friends of some of the, in this case, the six top things that tend to trip up attorneys and their clients. And it's, you know, it's things like treating a family buy sell agreement as fair market value. Just because you prepare a buy sell agreement and you go through the formal documents and have everyone sign it and you say, hey, here's what the value of our LLC is going to be. Just because you've done everything properly legally doesn't mean that the IRS is going to accept that. The IRS looks at the economic reality over the legal form. So just because you say, you know, hey, we gave this property away, you know, from this client, this client, you know, gave this property away, and so it's not included at his estate, the IRS looks at it differently and they say, okay, you gave it away, but you gave it away two days before you died. You know, this is almost, it's not, you weren't really looking to give this stuff away. You're looking to avoid taxes to your estate, right? Or let's say that the client says, hey, I'm giving away this, this, this business interest, you know, to my kids, but I'm retaining the right to, to make dividends, you know, from that business interest. The IRS looks at that and says, you're like, we call that retained rights. The IRS says, hey, you're retaining, you know, certain rights to that business that suggests that you still control it. So guess what? That business interest, you know, for $30 million that you said you gave away is not part of your estate. You effectively kept that. We're going to pull that back into your estate now and you're going to owe us taxes on that. And you've got a huge estate. So this means that your marginal tax rate on that business is, you know, it's astronomical. So, so those are some of the types of things. But it's, you know, it's knowing specialized rules like, you know, retained rights. It's another area where the IRS really gets folks is in discounts. Dave: Okay. Scott: Oftentimes. So discounts are a legal tool to use to represent a market reality. And so let me just give you an example there. You know, we have what we call a marketability discount that we can take on a business interest. And what that means is I can't turn this into cash very easily. A marketability discount shows the market reality that my privately held business, if I wanted to liquidate it, it would take me some amount of time and probably a lot of time, probably many months to liquidated. And therefore a, an informed investor would pay me less for that. They would discount that. Dave: That's a, sooner you want to close, the bigger the discount. Scott: Right? Dave: I mean, if you went to an arm's length transaction, that said, I have this $50 million business that would normally require a year of due diligence and you say to them, what will you give me to close on this business in one month? Well, they naturally are going to put a huge discount on that to account for the fact that they're having to skip their normal due diligence to offset their risk. Scott: Yeah, it really is a risk and return thing, is what these discounts represent, but it represents a market reality. Okay. What you can't do, though, what the IRS really frowns on is when maybe, let's say it's a CPA or somebody who only does valuations part time and they, you know, they're going to go look and they're going to say, oh, okay, for, for this type of asset, the average marketability discount is 35%. So boom, there we go. We're going to put 35% on it. They don't bother to explain it in the report because there's nothing to explain. They just went and found the market average. And the IRS is going to say, absolutely not. The discount needs to reflect the market reality of what's going on here. And, and using an average is not acceptable. And there's tons of court cases that show this. Now, if you went, for example, and found a court case with an asset that was very similar to yours, and they took a 50% marketability discount because of certain market realities with that business, and you and your business was very similar and had the same set of facts and circumstances, you might be able to take a 50% discount, but you've used a court case or you've used, you know, solid reasoning for how you did that. You didn't just take an average. So discounts are a huge area that the IRS loves to attack. And then like I said, the Last thing, really is the overriding theme in so many of these estate, trust and gift rules of the IRS is valuing the economic reality over the legal form. So just because you say that you gave something away, if you retain the right and use, you know, the ability to use it and to enjoy it and to have certain rights, the IRS says, I don't care that you've got a legal document that's signed. You didn't really give away those, those things from an economic perspective. And so you lose your discount and we're going to hit you where it hurts, which is in tax dollars. So that's what makes, you know, this area of specialization, you know, so difficult for a lot of folks. You don't want somebody who dabbles in this stuff. You really need to know these rules and to have dealt with them and to be experienced in this. Dave: So that's a really interesting point on the discount because, and I guess it's because these are related party transactions is what causes the scrutiny. Because if you have a $50 million business and you have a unrelated third party and they strike a deal to buy the business for $25 million and that's what everybody agrees to, then that's the price. And there's really no way for any other entity, a government body, a bank, anyone else, to really question it. Or conversely, if they're. A bidding war happens and that $50 million business sells for $100 million, that the contract governs it. As long as, you know, it meets the elements of a contract, that contract is valid. And it just strikes me that I could see somebody being tripped up on this because like you said, they could have all the I's dotted, the T's crossed, it being notarized, being signed by all the parties, I could see all that happening. And it seems like that $50 million business that you valued at $25 million, on the surface, everybody may think, hey, we're in great shape, I's dotted, T's crossed, everybody signed it, we had it notarized, we signed in a fancy office, everybody was sober, we're good. So is that, is it the related party aspect that creates the nuance and the difference? Scott: That. That is a big part of it. So in estate trust work, we're talking about, you know, it's clients that are doing things for themselves that often involves their family members or close friends. And so that's exactly what it is. So if, like you said, if, you know, a sale to an unrelated third party, that's market value, unless there's something else going on under the table. Otherwise, it's, by definition, it's what the market would pay and, you know, a buyer who doesn't have to buy and a seller who doesn't have to sell. But when you're doing these things, when you're gifting something to your children or to your spouse and you're assigning a value to that, it's a much different story, right? Because now it's, that's a family member or a person that's close to you. And you know, the real thing here, that that's, that that causes the friction, Dave, is that, you know, IRS rules allow people to take advantage of certain things to pay less taxes. There's certain things you can do. You can take discounts. The thing is, you can't take, you can't just willy nilly take discounts. They have to be properly supported and they have to be market based. And, and unfortunately, those things are not clear and objective. It's like, okay, you get, you do 1, 2, 3. And it works perfectly every time, right? There's a lot of subjective knowledge that goes into this, but at the end of the day, it needs to make sense to the irs. And they make the assumption they're at, they're adverse from us, right? From us and our clients. And their assumption is this thing is probably wrong unless you can prove to me that it's right. And that may not seem fair, but oftentimes that's kind of the way it is with the valuation. So it's really important to prepare that valuation from the perspective of, I'm expecting that the IRS is going to ask me these questions and they're going to push on me on these areas. And so I want this report to be so clear, when they look at it, it's like, okay, well, I see what he did. I may not fully agree with it, but what he did was reasonable and he didn't take any crazy positions. As opposed to just doing a standard valuation where you don't really speak specifically to some of those issues. You leave those areas of interpretation open for the irs and they're going to take advantage of that every time because they've done way more of these than our client has. Right? Dave: Well, I couldn't. But I always thought that once you did the valuation, you were done, you washed your hands of it. You said, hey, that's it, we got this crazy 80% discount. I'm done, I've washed my hands of this, and I never am going to be asked about this again. Is that how it goes. Scott: And I'm sure that you're being facetious when you ask that question. That's how it goes with some evaluation professionals, unfortunately. But that's not how it goes at atg. The way that we do these things, when we do evaluation like this, we always offer what we call audit defense. And you know, what that means, is that if the IRS picks this thing up and does a first line of examination of this, we're going to represent you. Whether that means sitting down with him face to face or answering emails or getting on a zoom call, we're going to defend our work. And so we're going to talk to the IRS and say, hey, look, here's what we did. Here's why we did it. And, you know, the IRS doesn't always have to agree with you. That's okay. They may not agree with you on everything. They probably won't. But as long as you. As long as you can clearly explain and it makes sense from a market perspective, you're going to be okay. And so when we prepare these things, we know that we are going to be having to explain this to the IRS potentially, and that's the perspective that we take. You know, one of the things we. That we typically say is we think like the irs, before the IRS ever shows up, we're thinking like, okay, what are the questions that they're going to ask? What are the areas that we need to really do? Make sure that we've got this thing perfectly buttoned up and prepare that. Like, we're going to sit down with an IRS agent who's angry and hasn't had his coffee on that day. And so we do that in advance for every one of these, knowing that we're going to. That we're going to be. That we're going to be on the hook if they examine this thing? And so we're never. We don't ever leave the client, you know, hung out to dry. It's like, okay, I do see that from time to time where clients come and they've got a. They've got evaluation, or their attorney comes and says, hey, we got this valuation. And it seemed really great, but the IRS has got all these questions about this 80% discount, and we don't know how to answer them. And we can do what we can do to try to, you know, to try to help the situation. We can't fix those things that, that, you know, if it's. If they've taken. If somebody else has taken a position that's not defensible. Not a whole lot we can do, but hopefully what we can do is just to help to, you know, to smooth it as much as possible or to prepare the client in advance for, you know, for what is likely to happen here is oftentimes what we do. Dave: Well, it sounds like your approach is more thorough and probably takes more time than just, you know, somebody who, you know, has some boilerplate language. They do 10 minutes of research, they say the average discount for this industry should be 40%. They plug it in, they have a five page report and they say that's that. You know, is this one of those things of you, you get what you pay for? It is. Scott: It is. It definitely takes more time for us to do it the way that we do it, which is building that report, assuming that the IRS is going to ask us questions, takes more time and it costs the client a little bit more to do that. But the downside is such that it more than pays for itself. If you think about it, we're, you know, I talk with the clients, with attorney referral partners about this. Where would you rather your client be? Would you rather them be elated about that 80% discount that they got that is not defensible? Or would you. Are you still going to be there when the IRS examines this? They got a 1 in 5 chance of examining it. Are you going to want to be there when you have to give them the bad news that the IRS disallowed the discount? And the problem is, Dave, that if the valuation is off significantly, the IRS doesn't just say, oh, no, that's not 80, it should have been 50%. So we're just going to take the delta. They look at it and they say, it's 80, it should have been 35. You guys screwed this up so bad that we're going to disallow the whole discount. And oh, by the way, that other discount that you took to, you took a control discount, it's automatically disallowed too, because you have so egregiously misstated this. And they can take the final step of saying, we're going to disallow the whole valuation here. We're going to set the value and you don't get any discount. So that's the absolute worst that could happen. But think about it. When they disallow that, that big discount that you've promised your client, and they've probably put the money in the bank and maybe even spent it, now you got to go back and say, hey, we don't. Not only do we not get that. That 50 or 80% discount, but you got to turn around and pay taxes on that whole amount. And, you know, for these larger estates, it could be millions of dollars. It's oftentimes. It's always thousands, hundreds of thousands, oftentimes millions of dollars that the client didn't think they were going to have to pay. They were super happy when they got that really cheap valuation. But. But it's like, okay, would you have paid, you know, 25 or 30% more for the valuation if. If you would have known that it was going to save you this whole debacle? Dave: Yeah. We're talking thousands of dollars in additional fees versus millions or tens of millions of dollars of tax exposure. Scott: Absolutely. That. That is potentially it. So I have never seen a case where, when the IRS reviews these things, where the incremental fee, you know, that the client, you know, would have paid is more than the, you know, the exposure that they have to the irs. It's always, you know, a multiple of that. So that, you know, the easy way to say it is there's huge downside here. And a lot of times, if it's a big estate and, you know, and there's some thorny issues involved, it makes much more sense to go ahead and get these things done right the first time. Dave: Okay. And, I mean, I. I know a lot of attorneys and some of the estate planning attorneys I know just getting ready for this call, I'd asked them, like, what are some of their frustrations with valuations? And one of the things they said is just re. Is responsiveness. They said, there are some firms out there. They said, you know, we're kind of under the gun. We brought the valuation person in too late, and they need three months to do this valuation. And, you know, sometimes it's a part of a large bureaucratic organization, and it's just, you know, there's just that. And my sense is that you all, being a boutique firm, focused purely on this, I'm guessing you have service options where you can turn things around more responsively than, you know, months. Is that true? Scott: Yeah, that is absolutely, Dave. You know, our standard Turnaround is usually 30 to 45 days. Oh, wow. Dave: Okay. Scott: You know, for an estate trust or gift valuation. And we, you know, we don't. As part of our standard package, we don't offer it quicker than that. We can deliver sooner than that. But of course, it's going to be an additional fee if you wait till the last minute. Yeah. Dave: You're paying overtime for your team and Scott: all somebody's got to sleep less when we do this thing and somebody has to sleep less. Dave: And, and that's what they're paying for. Scott: They're paying for those hours of sleep that they missed. But, but you know, Dave, I put together for, for some of my referral partners, I put together a list of 11 or 12 questions that, that they should ask or that they should think about when they're looking for a valuation professional. And this is one of them. You know, you know, one of the questions is do you have the, do you have evaluation credentials? Some of those are easy, but you know, another question is what's your turnaround time on these things? And, and if they say, oh, it's, you know, 60 days, 90 days, we don't know. Those are all signs that either they don't know what they're doing and you know, it's a crapshoot as to how long it's going to take them or they're busy. The valuation is not really their primary line of business. Oftentimes it's happened with CPA firms. Tax, tax or audit is their primary focus. Yeah, maybe the two or three folks that do business valuation part time are slammed with tax deadlines. And so, yeah, so if you call Dave: them in late January, good luck in getting anything done before May. Scott: I have this happen all the time where clients, you know, they don't get any responsiveness during tax season because they, their CPA or you know, a well known firm here in town who may have evaluation person or two that do this stuff. They can't get to it because their primary focus is tax or audit. And even worse is when the clients have questions about evaluation that their CPA firm valuation department did and they can't get anybody to call them back because they're slammed with deadlines. So just, it's another good reason why, you know, I encourage clients or referral partners to ask about those things on the front end. You know, what's your turnaround time? And you know, do you have a guaranteed turnaround time? Do you have, do you offer audit defense if you don't, why, you know, with the big firms, with the, you know, the large regional or national firms, the reason they don't is because they don't have to. They can afford to charge you whatever they want. Dave: Sure. Scott: But you know, but attorneys should ask those questions up front when they're interviewing potential valuation professionals. Ask those questions and you know, get answers on those things beforehand so that you're not, you know, three months later waiting to get that information. Dave: And yeah, it really sounds like you really could be a great resource for estate attorneys. You know, have you ever thought about writing a book or something geared. Sorry, I should have waited for you to finish your drinking coffee. Have you ever thought about writing a book like, geared specifically toward estate planning attorneys on some things they might need to know about valuation in the estate, trust and gift valuation world? Have you even thought about it, Scott? Scott: You know, we should have done the Tonight show together. You could be Ed McMahon and I could be Johnny Carson or Vice, but. Yeah, you're kind enough to bring that up, Dave. Actually, I have just recently written a book. It's actually in print now. I just. I just yesterday, probably two or three weeks away from having copies in my hand. And the name of the book is Business Valuation A Plain English Guide for Texas Attorneys. Oh, wow. Dave: Okay. Scott: It's exactly what it sounds like. It's written in plain English. There's no technical jargon, no acronyms, no mathematical formulas or anything else. What we did was, you know, we wrote a book that. That answers the questions that attorneys have most often. Do I need evaluation? Does it need to be certified? What are the landmines I should look out for? Is there certain terms that I need to understand in order to be conversant in this? That's what we've done. We've written a book. I go around meeting attorneys on a regular basis, as we do, networking, like we all do, and meet them oftentimes in a coffee shop. I call those coffee shop conversations, where it's just a casual conversation with an attorney, and he may. He or she may bring up a. An issue, you know, a specific issue they have with a client or something, and we can just. It's just a casual conversation. And that's what I want this book to be, is I want it to be like a coffee shop conversation where we can just. We can talk about, you know, the basic questions that they need to know. They don't need to know how to do a DCF calculation or a capitalization of earnings. They don't need to worry about what multiples are or anything else they need to know. They just need to have their basic questions answered so they can advise that client properly. Do we need to get an expert involved or do we not? And that's what we've done with this book, and I'm very excited about it and looking forward to. Dave: Yeah. So by the time this episode goes live, I expect your book will be out. And, you know, it's funny, in my niche tax arena of the IC Disc. I always tell our clients and advisors because they always kind of get overwhelmed with the details and the nuances, and they're trying to make sure they remember it. And every year, the same controller has the same question year after year, and they feel bad about it because, like, Dave, I know I asked you about this last year, and I'm asking you again, and I always tell them, I say, hey, look, I deal with this 365 days a year. You deal with it one day a year. And I. And in fact, I just had this call with a client yesterday, and I said, kayla, all you need to know about the IC disc is my phone number. And I'd argue that's all the attorneys need to know. They just need Scott's phone number, because all the other pieces you can take care of. Scott: Absolutely, Absolutely. And that's, you know, that's why I wrote the book, was just to. To be able to be a simple guide, you know, for attorneys to say, what do I do next? What are the questions that I need to. That I've got, and what do I need to do next? Dave: And. Scott: And you're right. Ideally, let me worry about the details, and I can take them through those details and as much, you know, take as much time as they would like. But ultimately, usually when I deal with attorney referral partners, they're just looking for that. That basic guidance. What do we need to do here? What should I look out for? Those types of things. So it's the approach you take with your clients? Yeah. No. Dave: So even though the book is really geared toward the attorney, if you. If the attorney had a client who was, you know, like, say, an engineer, you tend to be detail oriented and is really pushing back. And they say, well, my research says I should be able to get a 70% discount on this. Now, would the book be written in simple enough terms? That attorney could give a copy to a client who's detail oriented to at least cause the client to say, okay, all right, I get it. It's more complicated than I thought. So do you think it's plain language enough for a business owner or somebody, A client of a c. Of an estate attorney? Scott: Yes. The short answer is yes, Dave. I wrote it specifically for attorneys because those are the folks that I talk to the most often, and they're the primary referral partners, the primary point of contact I have when valuation issues come up for a client. But, you know, this book, you know, it would be very helpful for attorneys, CPAs, wealth planners, or the top folks that would find this thing Interesting. And. And it really is written in simple, easy to understand terms. And it covers some of the primary reasons why they might need evaluation. Things like M and A, estate and trust, divorce, business disputes, or IP valuations. And it gives just the basic questions that they need to understand to be conversant enough to know what they need to do next. And I give some very simple but practical examples for most of the issues. Most of the questions that I answer in there, I give simple examples. Here's an example of how this works or how it worked in the past with a client so that they can quickly and easily consume the things that they need to figure out. What are the next steps here? So there. No, no CPA is going to sit down with this book and say, okay, this is going to teach me everything I need to know to do evaluation. It's not meant for those folks. There's plenty of those out there that are written by people, you know, that have every detail in it. Dave: Yeah, textbook type. Scott: Exactly. This is really meant to be just a reference guide, a place to, to guide you so that you can figure out the next steps. Dave: Okay, well, hey. Well, Scott, I think this has been your second time on the podcast. It's been even more fun the second time. As we wrap up here, is there anything I didn't ask you that you wish I had? Scott: I wish you would ask me about my dog, Buddy, my office mate here, but otherwise, I, you know, I. There's nothing that really comes to mind that I could think of, honestly. I think we had a really good discussion about these issues. And, you know, the main thing I would leave you with and your audience with is I enjoy, you know, talking about this. This is, like you said, this is what I do seven days a week. And anytime that somebody has a question about evaluation, especially the state trust and gift valuations, I'm always happy. It's easy to find my contact information on LinkedIn and I'm always happy to have a conversation and, and if I can't help, you know, the person, then I can always point them in the right direction. Happy to be a resource for you, for your clients, for anybody who's got a question. Happy to do that. Dave: And just curious, do you, like, charge for a preliminary conversation like that? Scott: We never charge until the. And unless the client decides to engage us to do the work. So all my conversations are free up front. And, and that's, you know, that's just the way that we do business is we can give you honest information and have that, that, you know, simple conversation with you up front so that you're armed with what you need to make that, well, awesome. Dave: Well, Scott, this has been a lot of fun. Best of luck in the release of your book. I'm looking forward to getting a copy of it. Scott: Thank you, Dave. It's been a pleasure to be on with you again. I appreciate the opportunity. Dave: All right. Hey, you have a great day, buddy. Scott: Thanks.Special Guest: Scott Abels.

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Kent McCord became a television icon as Officer Jim Reed on Adam-12, one of the most influential police dramas in television history. But long before Adam-12, Kent's life was already taking remarkable turns. In this episode of Still Here Hollywood, Kent shares never-before-heard stories about working with Jack Webb, the realism behind Adam-12, how the series became a training tool for police departments across America, and the surprising impact the show had on law enforcement. Kent also recalls his friendship with Rick Nelson, an unforgettable football game between teams organized by Rick Nelson and Elvis Presley, working on Elvis movies, being publicly recognized by Elvis in Las Vegas, and the heartbreaking days surrounding the deaths of both Elvis and Rick. It's a fascinating conversation about classic television, Hollywood history, friendship, luck, and a career that continues to resonate with audiences decades later. #Adam12, #KentMcCord, #JackWebb, #ElvisPresley, #RickNelson, #ClassicTV, #StillHereHollywood, #SteveKmetko, #HollywoodHistory, #Dragnet, #PoliceDrama, #TVLegends   CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro 01:00 Why Everyone Called Him "Bucky" 01:39 Did Kent Know Adam-12 Would Become a Classic? 05:28 The Simple Formula That Made Adam-12 Work 07:04 Jack Webb and the Birth of Adam-12 08:15 Jack Webb's Famous Temper and Directing Style 15:52 Johnny Carson, Jack Webb and Comedy Gold 16:38 The Real Impact Adam-12 Had on Police Officers 18:14 Kent's Real-Life Encounters with Crime 20:13 Making Adam-12 Feel Authentic 23:28 Patreon Break 24:10 Becoming Friends with Rick Nelson 27:50 The Legendary Elvis Presley vs. Rick Nelson Football Game 33:43 What Elvis Presley Was Really Like 35:05 The Night Elvis Introduced Kent McCord in Las Vegas 37:16 Searching for Lost Elvis Footage 38:14 Life with Rick Nelson and Ozzie & Harriet 48:42 Luck, Persistence and Breaking Into Hollywood 50:04 The Day Elvis Presley Died 54:45 The Truth About Rick Nelson's Plane Crash 1:00:18 Did Adam-12 Show the Real Reality of Policing? 1:00:55 The Miranda Warning Story 1:02:20 Why Adam-12 Was Different From Every Other Cop Show 1:05:25 Looking Back on a Lifetime in Hollywood 1:06:30 The Day Ozzie Nelson Saved Kent's Life 1:08:55 Martin Milner and the Friendship Behind Adam-12 1:10:51 Why Adam-12 Still Airs Today 1:11:25 Closing Credits   Show CreditsHost/Producer: Steve KmetkoAll things technical: Justin ZangerleExecutive Producer: Jim LichtensteinMusic by: Brian Sanyshyn https://stillherehollywood.comhttp://patreon.com/stillherehollywoodSuggest Guests at: stillherehollywood@gmail.comAdvertise on Still Here Hollywood: jim@stillherenetwork.comPublicist: Maggie Perlich: maggie@numbertwelvemarketing.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

SNL alum (1986-1992) Victoria Jackson has assembled her lifetime collection of handstand photographs, age 5 to age 65, her original poetry that began at age ten and continued through her TV years where she sang her original songs on Johnny Carson, Saturday Night Live, numerous talk shows and movies, and her original art rarely seen. She dots the collections with personal stories, detailing the highs and lows of her show biz career, marriages, and home life, sprinkling the colorful tales with favorite Bible verses that kept her strong in the face of adversity. Her recent diagnosis of stage 4 breast cancer was the instigator that led her to comb through boxes and boxes of treasures and pick the ones she wanted to share with the world. Like the story of Hezekiah in the Bible when God said, "Get your things in order because you are going to die soon," Victoria is doing just that. Join us as Victoria Jackson teaches us how to live well here while preparing to really live in Heaven.Become a Parshall Partner: http://moodyradio.org/donateto/inthemarket/partnersSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

SNL alum (1986-1992) Victoria Jackson has assembled her lifetime collection of handstand photographs, age 5 to age 65, her original poetry that began at age ten and continued through her TV years where she sang her original songs on Johnny Carson, Saturday Night Live, numerous talk shows and movies, and her original art rarely seen. She dots the collections with personal stories, detailing the highs and lows of her show biz career, marriages, and home life, sprinkling the colorful tales with favorite Bible verses that kept her strong in the face of adversity. Her recent diagnosis of stage 4 breast cancer was the instigator that led her to comb through boxes and boxes of treasures and pick the ones she wanted to share with the world. Like the story of Hezekiah in the Bible when God said, "Get your things in order because you are going to die soon," Victoria is doing just that. Join us as Victoria Jackson teaches us how to live well here while preparing to really live in Heaven.Become a Parshall Partner: http://moodyradio.org/donateto/inthemarket/partnersSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In Wednesday's edition of Quick Hits, Nick Wilson and Jonathan Peterlin evaluate the hype surrounding Browns newcomer Jared Verse and compare his potential impact to Myles Garrett. They also react to Caleb Williams landing the Madden 27 cover and debate the character of late-night icons like Jimmy Fallon and Johnny Carson. 01:03 - Jared Verse Potential 02:37 - Caleb Williams Madden Cover 07:42 - MJ Rejection And Fallon

Why Joe Rogan Beat Late Night TVWhen I was a kid, hearing Johnny Carson's theme music meant it was time for bed. Today, nobody has to stay up for anything. And that one shift explains a huge part of why late night is fading and why your podcast has to work harder to earn attention.Conversation vs Promotional AppearancesIn the early years of Johnny Carson, the show was 90 minutes and they actually had conversations as apposed to the "tell me about your family vacation, and let's roll the clip" interviews we see on late night showsAppointment Viewing is DeadThe days of "must see tv" on Thursday night died with the VCR and DVR. I haven't watched live TV in years. So now the audience that is staying up to watch live is much older (somewhere between age 60-70), and is about HALF of the audience comparing it to the days wheh David Letterman get almost 7 million a night.The Celebrity Mystique is GoneI once stayed up to watch B.B. King on the tonight show. Why? Because I couldn't hear him on the radio. I was too young to go to a concert. If I did that today and wanted to see Joe Bonamassa I wouldn't need to wait to see him on TV. I could see him on his YouTube channel, or multiple interviews on podcasts.#1 in Late Night is a Big Fish in a Much Smaller PondKeep in mind that Steven Colbert being #1 in late night in 2026 is way different than being #1 in late night in 1993. Late-night TV revenue has reportedly fallen from about $400 million a year to $200 million a year—a 50% decline—while some shows that once drew 7–8 million nightly viewers now struggle to reach 3 million.YouTube Doesn't Pay the SameAccording to one report, YouTube pays one tenth of what a network ad spot would go for. When you audience is cut in half, you have less advertisers. When the advertisers you have are paying you 90% less and your expenses stay the same that is a problem.Keep Control of Your ContentRemember big companies with big payouts WANT CONTROL. Conan focused on owning his content and that resulted in a 150 million dollar payout.Only Amazing Content Will Stand OutIf you want podcast growth, you need to make sure you are doing as many of the following as possible.Make them:laughcrythinkgroanMake Sure The ContentEducatesEntertainsSaves the audience timeSaves them moneyMakes them FEEL somethingIf it's information you can get any place else, even better. A great podcast can be boiled down to content and delivery. So this episode is focused on content.Be Ready to PromoteWhen someone says, "Oh, you do a podcast?" be ready to explain what it is, what its about, and how people benefit from consuming your content (and say your website). We hear how Macaulay Culkin dropped the ball so bad on the Ellen show.Housekeeping: How to Pitch a PodcastI am still preparing to launch this show and I'm accepting stories. I had some things pop up that are taking my attention as they are time sensitive. It's coming...Mentioned in this episode:Live AppearancesI will be at the Empower Podcasting Conference (Year 3!) in Charlotte North Carolina. This is my favorite type of conference with a cap at 250 people, it's a great crowd without being overwhelming. Great speakers, great networking, and a great location.Where Will I Be?Podcasting in Six Weeks Starts SoonIf you've tried to start a podcast before and got lost in the jargon, and felt overwhelmed, this is the course for you. We will meet LIVE for six weeks and go step by step in launching your successful podcast. The best part, we are only charging $1 Check it out at www.schoolofpodcasting.com/sixweeksPodcasting in Six WeeksQuestion of the MonthThis might be harder question to answer because when I ask people, the sometimes freeze. The question? How do you measure success for your podcast beyond download numbers? I need your answer by June 26th, 2026. Don't forget to tell us a little bit about your show and your website address so I can link to it in the show notes.Question of the MonthYouTube Matching Just Got CheaperThe amazing YouTube Matching feature available at Podpage was previously available on the top "Elite" tier, but is now available on the "Pro" tier. This give you MORE value for LESS money. Start your free trial today at Podpage.comPodpage

Before streaming, before social media, and before reality TV took over, millions of viewers stayed up late watching USA Up All Night. This week on Still Here Hollywood, Steve Kmetko sits down with television personality, comedian, actress, entrepreneur, and USA Up All Night host Rhonda Shear. Rhonda shares behind-the-scenes stories from one of cable television's most beloved late-night shows, the challenges of being a woman in Hollywood during the 1980s and 1990s, her experiences with Playboy, Joan Rivers, George Burns, and Johnny Carson, and how she reinvented herself after Hollywood to build the wildly successful Rhonda Shear Intimates brand and the famous Ahh Bra. She also discusses the reboot of Up All Night, the changing comedy landscape, her thoughts on political correctness, and finding love with her junior high school sweetheart after decades apart. Subscribe for more conversations with the stars you remember and the stories you've never heard. #StillHereHollywood #RhondaShear #USAUpAllNight CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 01:36 The Legacy of USA Up All Night 03:58 Landing the Hosting Job 05:26 Was Rhonda Shear a Trailblazer? 08:21 Why Fans Still Love Her 09:55 Building Rhonda Shear Intimates 12:12 The Story Behind the Ahh Bra 13:52 Returning to Stand-Up Comedy 15:10 Wild HSN Stories 18:36 Creating the Up All Night Character 21:09 Comedy Training and Improv 22:04 Being Told She Could Never Make It 24:19 Becoming an Accidental Feminist 26:09 Creating Opportunities for New Talent 27:29 Female Comics Today 29:20 Finding Material in Real Life 33:06 How Rhonda Sees Herself 34:11 Beauty Queen Beginnings 35:53 Working with Johnny Carson 36:11 Political Correctness and Comedy 37:07 Rebooting Up All Night 39:28 Career Regrets and Reinvention 41:38 Dating Glenn Frey 42:43 What Wouldn't Fly Today 48:24 Advice from Joan Rivers and George Burns 50:07 The Most Important Part of Her Story 52:12 Jewelry, Creativity and Never Retiring 54:23 Up All Night Returns Show CreditsHost/Producer: Steve KmetkoAll things technical: Justin ZangerleExecutive Producer: Jim LichtensteinMusic by: Brian Sanyshyn https://stillherehollywood.comhttp://patreon.com/stillherehollywoodSuggest Guests at: stillherehollywood@gmail.comAdvertise on Still Here Hollywood: jim@stillherenetwork.comPublicist: Maggie Perlich: maggie@numbertwelvemarketing.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Tim Conway Jr Show Hour 3 (5.29) Conway kicks off the hour with a classic showbiz throwback: when Johnny Carson liked a comedian, he waved them over to the couch — and now Neil gets the couch treatment! Conway also recaps hosting the 2026 ACG Awards Gala, the “Oscars for Business,” celebrating major middle-market companies across Orange County and the Inland Empire. Big shoutout to Consolidated Contracting and all the companies expanding, building, and staying bullish. Then the crew dives into Hawaiian Airlines cutting free hot meals in the Main Cabin on most mainland flights, replacing them with prepaid meals from chef Sheldon Simeon. Conway jokes that Main Cabin is where “the animals” sit, which launches a hilarious conversation about airplane behavior, first-class air rage, fame, privacy, and why being famous may not be worth the headache. Later, the legendary Engelbert Humperdinck, the King of Romance, is coming into the studio at 90 years old with new music. The Foosh grew up on Engelbert and knows all the hits, leading to a perfect game show idea: “Seniors, Name That Tune.” The hour wraps with a look back at the final Carol Burnett Show in 1978, which drew around 30 million viewers, plus a wild Santa Monica story involving a mountain lion roaming the neighborhood before being immobilized. Johnny Carson, Conway Show, Neil Saavedra, ACG Awards Gala, Orange County business, Inland Empire, Consolidated Contracting, Hawaiian Airlines, airplane meals, air rage, first class, Engelbert Humperdinck, Name That Tune, Carol Burnett Show, Santa Monica mountain lion, funny podcast, trending podcast See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today, we get back to the funny stuff with a guy who is ‘serious' about comedy.  Meet Eddie Brill, a native New Yorker who came to Boston to attend Emerson College, getting his start in comedy there and never looking back.  Eddie has toured all over the United States and throughout many parts of the world.  He was previously the warm-up comic and comedy talent coordinator of The Late Show with David Letterman.  He founded and was the creative director for the award-winning Great American Comedy Festival in Norfolk, Nebraska, honoring the late Johnny Carson who hailed from that town.  Eddie and I talk about  current trends in comedy, who his heroes in the business are and the comics who continue  to “bring it” on stage today!

Kevin Nealon (SNL, Weeds, Hiking with Kevin) joins us this week for a quietly honest conversation that goes a lot deeper than you would expect. Kevin tells the story of an active shooter scare at his Bridgeport stand up show that ended with him hiding behind a dumpster, the audiences who keep dropping mid set as his fans get older, and why the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, not SNL, was the real dream he was chasing the whole time. We also get into Garry Shandling as his mentor and dearn late friend, the Sandler private jet tour where he only did ten minutes a night, and the surprises that came with walking into Carrie Fisher's house. Thank you to our sponsors:

Well, that Mosque shooting disappeared faster than cocaine at a Hunter Biden party.Seattle's Democratic Socialist Mayor is losing businesses like no where else. The Colombia Tower Club just closed after 40 years. Amazon Fresh and Amazon Go has closed all their stores. Jeff Bezos left, Howard Schultz founder of Starbucks left. Their capital gains tax collection is down 50%. Per Cushman Wakefield vacancies rates are 36.5 for commercial property. Pioneer square is at 50% vacancy. The Needle, Seattle's iconic structure is now a homeless encampment. Business are running from socialist ideas and sanctuary cities. At this pace tax rates will increase on those remaining. It's just a matter of time for the city to collapse. Fewer people to tax, fewer jobs, more homeless.[X] SB – Ad against TalaricoGod is non-binary6 sexesAmerican flag complicated signalStephen Colbert signs off from late night television, and the media acts like we just watched the first moon landing, the fall of the Berlin Wall, and the Beatles reuniting all at once. “Historic ratings!” they cry. “A cultural moment!”Yeah? Let's talk about those numbers.Colbert's final show pulled 6.74 million viewers. And to be fair, that is a big number by today's standards. It was the highest-rated weeknight episode he ever had. Bigger than his premiere. Way above his recent average of around 2.7 million.But here's the problem. Context is undefeated.Johnny Carson's final show in 1992 pulled over 55 million viewers. Fifty-five million. That was when America still had fewer people and fewer TVs. Carson had a 62% audience share. Think about that. Six out of every ten televisions in America were tuned into one guy sitting behind a desk telling jokes.That's not a TV host. That's a national event.Jay Leno signed off with nearly 15 million viewers. David Letterman got almost 14 million. Colbert, meanwhile, needed every other late-night host to basically go dark and funnel their audience to him just to hit half of what Leno and Letterman did.And this was his BEST night, outside of his piggybacking on a Super Bowl one night.That's like a baseball player retiring with a .195 batting average and ESPN running graphics like Babe Ruth just left Yankee Stadium.What happened to late night?Simple. It stopped being funny and started becoming political group therapy.Johnny Carson made everybody laugh. Republicans, Democrats, people who didn't know who the Vice President was. Carson wasn't trying to “educate” America. He wasn't trying to save democracy between commercials for sleep medication and adult diapers. He just wanted to be funny.Colbert and these modern late-night guys? Entirely different business model.Every night became the same routine: Trump joke. Republican joke. Democracy is ending. Commercial break. Repeat until pharmaceutical side effects include “thoughts of self-harm.”At some point, late night stopped feeling like comedy and started feeling like being trapped at a dinner party with your angry NPR cousin who uses the phrase “lived experience” while borrowing money from his parents.And then you see the staff photo.Have you seen this thing? It looked less like a comedy show staff and more like a government agency. I heard estimates anywhere from 120 to nearly 200 people working on that show.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Ross Shafer joined me to talk about watching Rusty Nails as a kid; flipping bikes, cars, houses, and businesses; college football; owning a stereo / pet store named Woofers and Tweeters; hamster drag racing; going to a comedy club when he had an ulcer; seeing there was a science there; trying it and getting good enough to win Showtimes Comedy Laugh Off; having a day job and not being able to move to LA; bombing on Alan Thicke's Canadian talk show; pitching Almost Live!; getting the show on the air on the fly; creating fame for little towns near Seattle; Louie, Louie campaign makes it a hit, but no one wants to syndicate; gets job to host Late Show but has to cancel remaining gigs; writers to Johnny Carson; Writer's Strike causes theme shows like TV reunions; Ozzy Osbourne; Hollywood Squares & Howard Stern; finding out Late Show is cancelled that morning; getting Match Game; memorable trip; Sally Struthers and Charles Nelson Reilly; Iraq War preempts show and ratings dive; began doing corporate gigs; his WOW versus POW theory; the book Love, Johnny by Mark Malkoff

John Podhoretz, Jonah Goldberg, and Rob Long er, "ricochet" from Trump potentially skipping his son's wedding to the collapse of late-night television, the strange death of black-tie culture, the rise of “Technogerd” pharmaceutical ads, and whether the future belongs to GLP-1 drugs, Episcopalians, or Chinese vertical dramas. Along the way: Jane Fonda at the Chinese Theatre, yacht-rock pedophilia lyrics, the comedy gold of the JPMorgan sex-lawsuit texts, Netflix sitcoms, empty Manhattan churches, Johnny Carson's killer instinct, and the immortal phrase “Fiddla Please.” It's a classic free-association GLoP: equal parts cultural criticism, showbiz war stories, theological detour, and middle-aged panic attack — all powered by Dongfang energy and sustained by propofol-grade banter.

Prices are up. Budgets are tighter. And people are making some surprising choices about what stays and what goes. The woman skipping the new laptop and the graduation dress is still booked for a Disney cruise, a Bruno Mars concert, and a trip to Lake Erie. It turns out inflation doesn't just squeeze your wallet -- it forces a conversation about what you actually value. Joe, OG, Paula Pant, and Doc G dig into where people are drawing the line, why experiences outlast stuff in the happiness research, and what each of them refuses to give up no matter what.What You'll Walk Away WithWhy people cut the easy stuff first -- and why that strategy relieves anxiety without actually solving the budget problemThe research behind experiences vs. stuff: why the memory of a trip gets rosier over time while objects depreciate in more ways than oneDoc G's spending happiness continuum -- from stuff to experiences to becoming a better version of yourself, and why the last one costs the leastWhy OG's DoorDash experiment was a two out of ten in year-to-date success -- and why four people pulling the rudder in the other direction mattersThe "build from zero" budget reframe that feels more empowering than cutting from the top downOne roundtable member's rule that nothing is ever truly off the table when cash gets tight -- including the house and the private schoolWhat each panelist will never go cheap on -- and one answer involving prescription medications that lands differently than you'd expectThe expenses that are dead to each of them -- and where Joe, OG, Paula, and Doc G land on first class flights and DoorDashWhy the client who cut all Christmas spending had the best holiday season of their lifePapa John's quarterly earnings data that tells you exactly how inflation is changing behavior at the menu levelWhy This Matters NowIf you're in your 40s and you've started quietly trimming things -- streaming services, delivery apps, clothing budgets -- but haven't touched the bigger stuff, this episode names what's actually happening. The question isn't whether to cut. It's whether the things you're cutting are the ones that matter least. That's a values conversation, not a math conversation, and this roundtable is one of the better ones the basement has had.From the BasementJoe, OG, Paula Pant, and Doc G dig into a Wall Street Journal piece on how Americans are changing their spending habits -- and the conversation quickly becomes about what money is actually for. OG reports that his attempt to eliminate DoorDash from the family budget has been going poorly. Doc G went to Bali in coach. The year-long trivia competition takes a dramatic turn as OG's precise mathematical reasoning leads everyone to the wrong answer -- and Doc G wins by going lower. Johnny Carson's guest host strategy turns out to be the missing variable nobody accounted for.Resources MentionedWall Street Journal -- "Where Americans Are Drawing the Line on Price Increases" by Rachel Wolff; linked at stackingbenjamins.comAfford Anything podcast -- Paula Pant; Joe joins most Tuesdays for listener Q&AEarn and Invest podcast -- Doc G (Jordan Grumet); recent episode with Carrie Jorn Grimes on The Joy of MoneyStacking Benjamins Vault -- stackingbenjamins.com/vaultStacking Benjamins Community -- stackingbenjamins.com/basementSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Stephen Colbert's Late Show aired its final episode tonight, ending a decade-long run that cost CBS roughly $40 million a year and alienated half the country. Bridget Phetasy breaks down how Trump derangement syndrome turned late night television from a unifying institution into a smug resistance rally — and why no one is actually sad to see it go. Also: the case for Dumpster Fire to fill the slot. #StephenColbert #LateNight #DumpsterFire Topics covered: Stephen Colbert Late Show finale, late night TV decline, Trump derangement syndrome, CBS Late Show cancelled, Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, Johnny Carson legacy, comedy and politics, resistance TV, Kill Tony 

Media mogul Byron Allen joins Michael to discuss the end of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, the launch of Comics Unleashed in CBS late night, and his remarkable journey from teenage comedian to media empire builder. Allen shares stories about Johnny Carson, David Letterman, Jay Leno, his mother's influence, and why he believes comedy can bring America together. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On the 34tn anniversary of the final Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, and the morning after the final Colbert broadcast, Mark and Mike discuss the history of late-night shows.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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On the 34tn anniversary of the final Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, and the morning after the final Colbert broadcast, Mark and Mike discuss the history of late-night shows.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On Club Random Classics, Bill Maher and Jerry Seinfeld get into the gift Bill gave Jerry, Jerry's obsessive attention to detail, the car he picked Bill up in for Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, and how both of their relationships to success, stand-up, and performing have evolved over time. They also talk about the mistakes Bill made reading comedy crowds, Lorne Michaels' philosophy on retirement, the ruthless side of Johnny Carson, whether bad crowds really exist, why people instinctively pick apart compliments, and the enduring wisdom of Marcus Aurelius. This episode originally aired May 5, 2024. Support our Advertisers: Head to https://www.superpower.com and use code RANDOM at checkout for $20 off your membership. Unlock your new health intelligence. 100+ biomarkers. Every year. Detect early signs of 1,000+ conditions. #superpowerpod Subscribe to the Club Random YouTube channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/clubrandompodcast?sub_confirmation=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch episodes ad-free – subscribe to Bill Maher's Substack: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://billmaher.substack.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you listen: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Buy Club Random Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://clubrandom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices ABOUT CLUB RANDOM Bill Maher rewrites the rules of podcasting the way he did in television in this series of one on one, hour long conversations with a wide variety of unexpected guests in the undisclosed location called Club Random. There's a whole big world out there that isn't about politics and Bill and his guests—from Bill Burr and Jerry Seinfeld to Jordan Peterson, Quentin Tarantino and Neil DeGrasse Tyson—talk about all of it.  For advertising opportunities please email: PodcastPartnerships@Studio71us.com ABOUT BILL MAHER Bill Maher was the host of “Politically Incorrect” (Comedy Central, ABC) from 1993-2002, and for the last fourteen years on HBO's “Real Time,” Maher's combination of unflinching honesty and big laughs have garnered him 40 Emmy nominations. Maher won his first Emmy in 2014 as executive producer for the HBO series, “VICE.” In October of 2008, this same combination was on display in Maher's uproarious and unprecedented swipe at organized religion, “Religulous.” Maher has written five bestsellers: “True Story,” “Does Anybody Have a Problem with That? Politically Incorrect's Greatest Hits,” “When You Ride Alone, You Ride with Bin Laden,” “New Rules: Polite Musings from a Timid Observer,” and most recently, “The New New Rules: A Funny Look at How Everybody But Me Has Their Head Up Their Ass.” FOLLOW CLUB RANDOM https://www.clubrandom.com https://www.facebook.com/Club-Random-101776489118185 https://twitter.com/clubrandom_ https://www.instagram.com/clubrandompodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@clubrandompodcast FOLLOW BILL MAHER https://www.billmaher.com https://twitter.com/billmaher https://www.instagram.com/billmaher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Thursday - We talk Turbidity sensors, hot sauce, taco boats, Lord of the Rings, Stephen Colbert, Johnny Carson, marital spats, and movies you go to the theater for. We get an event update with Chloe Greenberg from the Orlando Weekly. Attorney Glenn Klausman with the Case of the Undiagnosed Concussion for Colbert Court. Rauce Thoughts on a young man getting old. Plus, JCS News, JCS Trivia & You Heard it Here First.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Late-night TV used to make America laugh. Now it lectures America every night. Buck breaks down the collapse of modern late-night comedy and why hosts like Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, and others turned once-iconic shows into partisan political theater. From the golden era of Johnny Carson and Jay Leno to today’s endless anti-Trump monologues, we examine how late-night television lost its audience, lost its purpose, and ultimately lost the culture. Why are ratings collapsing? Why are these shows getting canceled? And how did comedy become so painfully unfunny? Never miss a moment from Buck by subscribing to the Buck Sexton Show Podcast on IHeart Radio, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts! Connect with Buck Sexton:Facebook – / bucksexton X – @bucksexton Instagram – @bucksexton TikTok - @BuckSexton YouTube - @BuckSexton Website – https://www.bucksexton.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bill in Idaho called in to give Mark an update on his life in Idaho. Paul in Roslyn, NY, knows who brought Johnny Carson's Malibu home, and Mark may know who it is. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Bishop Robert Barron about the lost art of civil debate and why figures like William F. Buckley, Phil Donahue, and Johnny Carson helped unify Americans across political divides; how tribalism, wokeism, and partisan media are destroying healthy public discourse; the growing public clashes between President Trump and Pope Leo XIV over immigration, morality, and public policy; how Catholic leaders in politics should engage in direct dialogue with the Vatican instead of social media battles;  how the collapse of America' shared faith may be weakening social cohesion, moral stability, and civil discourse; the rise of conspiracy thinking, tribalism, and online mobs as symptoms of a deeper spiritual crisis; why AI and artificial intelligence could weaken human thinking, meaning, and religious life if people outsource their minds to technology; his warning that wokeism and critical theory are spiritually divisive movements rooted in power politics rather than truth or justice; and why churches should resist adopting woke ideology even if it costs them popularity or numbers, and much more. Join me for a LIVE Event with Governor Ron DeSantis, plus special appearances by Ben Shapiro, Jillian Michaels, and Adam Carolla on June 11th! Get Tickets Here: https://daverubin.com/events Check out the NEW RUBIN REPORT MERCH here: https://daverubin.store/ ---------- Today's Sponsors: Angel Studios - Choose entertainment that is focused on stories about family, perseverance, and real human experiences. Things that feel grounded and actually worth your time.Join during our big Mother's Day sale right now and get up to 42% off an annual membership. Go to:  http://Angel.com/rubin Tax Network USA - If you owe back taxes or have unfiled returns, don't let the government take advantage of you. Do not wait for another IRS letter or a frozen bank account. Call 1(866) 685-6604  for a private, free consultation or Go to: https://tnusa.com/dave

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Jimmy comments that the liberal leanings of most late-night TV hosts may be contributing to declining ratings and affecting public perception. He and Mark also discuss the popularity of Johnny Carson's former home and why it attracts so many visitors.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

President Trump is most likely taking extra security precautions in China due to concerns about surveillance, including the possibility of microphones in hotels and meeting rooms. Dr. Anthony Fauci, prominent in the U.S. COVID-19 response, has faced criticism regarding some of his guidance during the pandemic. A left-leaning leader currently leads the UK government. Mark suggests that if UK voters become dissatisfied, there could be a shift toward more conservative policies, which could also be reflected in future U.S. elections. Mark takes your calls! Mark interviews WOR weeknight host Jimmy Failla. Jimmy comments that the liberal leanings of most late-night TV hosts may be contributing to declining ratings and affecting public perception. He and Mark also discuss the popularity of Johnny Carson's former home and why it attracts so many visitors.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

President Trump is meeting with President Xi Jinping in China. One of the main topics is China's interest in Taiwan, which remains a key issue in U.S.-China relations. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced that Israel is planning legal action against The New York Times, alleging the paper has published anti-Semitic content. Jerome Powell will remain on the Federal Reserve Board after serving as Fed Chair. Kevin Warsh has been named as the new incoming Fed Chair. Mark interviews economist Steve Moore. Steve discusses Taiwan's strong economy compared to China, noting this as a possible motivation for China's interest in Taiwan. He also points out that China receives more oil through the Strait of Hormuz than the U.S. does. Steve mentions the current global shortage of fertilizer and suggests that President Trump could consider lifting tariffs on fertilizer imports. President Trump is most likely taking extra security precautions in China due to concerns about surveillance, including the possibility of microphones in hotels and meeting rooms. Dr. Anthony Fauci, prominent in the U.S. COVID-19 response, has faced criticism regarding some of his guidance during the pandemic. A left-leaning leader currently leads the UK government. Mark suggests that if UK voters become dissatisfied, there could be a shift toward more conservative policies, which could also be reflected in future U.S. elections. Mark interviews WOR weeknight host Jimmy Failla. Jimmy comments that the liberal leanings of most late-night TV hosts may be contributing to declining ratings and affecting public perception. He and Mark also discuss the popularity of Johnny Carson's former home and why it attracts so many visitors. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

President Trump is meeting with President Xi Jinping in China. One of the main topics is China's interest in Taiwan, which remains a key issue in U.S.-China relations. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced that Israel is planning legal action against The New York Times, alleging the paper has published anti-Semitic content. Jerome Powell will remain on the Federal Reserve Board after serving as Fed Chair. Kevin Warsh has been named as the new incoming Fed Chair. Mark interviews economist Steve Moore. Steve discusses Taiwan's strong economy compared to China, noting this as a possible motivation for China's interest in Taiwan. He also points out that China receives more oil through the Strait of Hormuz than the U.S. does. Steve mentions the current global shortage of fertilizer and suggests that President Trump could consider lifting tariffs on fertilizer imports. President Trump is most likely taking extra security precautions in China due to concerns about surveillance, including the possibility of microphones in hotels and meeting rooms. Dr. Anthony Fauci, prominent in the U.S. COVID-19 response, has faced criticism regarding some of his guidance during the pandemic. A left-leaning leader currently leads the UK government. Mark suggests that if UK voters become dissatisfied, there could be a shift toward more conservative policies, which could also be reflected in future U.S. elections. Mark interviews WOR weeknight host Jimmy Failla. Jimmy comments that the liberal leanings of most late-night TV hosts may be contributing to declining ratings and affecting public perception. He and Mark also discuss the popularity of Johnny Carson's former home and why it attracts so many visitors.

Jimmy comments that the liberal leanings of most late-night TV hosts may be contributing to declining ratings and affecting public perception. He and Mark also discuss the popularity of Johnny Carson's former home and why it attracts so many visitors.

President Trump is most likely taking extra security precautions in China due to concerns about surveillance, including the possibility of microphones in hotels and meeting rooms. Dr. Anthony Fauci, prominent in the U.S. COVID-19 response, has faced criticism regarding some of his guidance during the pandemic. A left-leaning leader currently leads the UK government. Mark suggests that if UK voters become dissatisfied, there could be a shift toward more conservative policies, which could also be reflected in future U.S. elections. Mark takes your calls! Mark interviews WOR weeknight host Jimmy Failla. Jimmy comments that the liberal leanings of most late-night TV hosts may be contributing to declining ratings and affecting public perception. He and Mark also discuss the popularity of Johnny Carson's former home and why it attracts so many visitors.

With The Late Show with Stephen Colbert coming to an end, Emmy-winning Set Decorator Kim Wannop looks at the design history of late-night television through the rooms we know so well: the desk, the guest chair, the skyline, the curtains, the bandstand, and the host's chair.In this episode of Decorating Pages, Kim breaks down late-night TV set design from Johnny Carson to David Letterman, Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, and Seth Meyers. She looks at Carson's iconic command-center set, Letterman's strange and brilliant NBC office energy, his move to CBS and the historic Ed Sullivan Theater, Colbert's grand restoration of that theater, Kimmel's Hollywood-after-dark lounge, Fallon's warm New York variety show, and Seth Meyers' writer's room with a view.This is a set decorator's look at how late-night shows use similar design staples but create completely different identities for each host. Because in late night, the desk is not just furniture. The room tells us what kind of night we're about to have.Listen to Decorating Pages for production design, set decoration, TV design, film design, Emmy FYC interviews, and behind-the-scenes conversations about the worlds built for screen.

Send us Fan MailJoin director and former child actor Moosie Drier, and author Jonathan Rosen, as they chat with legendary impressionist, Rich Little!Rich discusses his Vegas show at the Laugh Factory at the Horseshoe Casino, participating in the Dean Martin Roasts, his appearances with Johnny Carson, & much more!Support the show

This episode was originally released on 12/1/2021. While new episodes of Breaking Walls are on hiatus I'll be going back and posting the older episodes. ____________ In Breaking Walls episode 122 we spend the holidays in the old west with Jimmy Stewart, director Jack Johnstone, and The Six Shooter. —————————— Highlights: • Jack Johnstone's Early Radio Career • The State of Network Radio in December of 1953 • James Stewart on the Hollywood Star Playhouse • The Six Shooter Launches • A Pressing Engagement • The Radio Industry - More Than Kin • Britt Ponsett's Christmas Carol • Britt Ponsett Rides Off Into the Sunset • Looking Ahead of January 1954 —————————— The WallBreakers: thewallbreakers.com Subscribe to Breaking Walls everywhere you get your podcasts. To support the show: patreon.com/TheWallBreakers —————————— The reading material used in today's episode was: • On the Air - By John Dunning • Radio Rides The Range: A Reference Guide to Western Drama on the Air — by Jack French and David S. Siegel • Network Radio Ratings — By Jim Ramsburg As well as articles from • The Los Angeles Times —————————— On the interview front: • Dick Beals, Virginia Gregg, and Herb Vigran spoke to Chuck Schaden. Hear their full chats at SpeakingOfRadio.com. • Parley Baer, Harry Bartell, Sam Edwards, Jack Johnstone, Marvin Miller and Vic Perrin were with SPERDVAC. For more information, go to SPERDVAC.com. • Art Linkletter spoke with John Gassman. • Jimmy Stewart was with Larry King and Johnny Carson. —————————— Selected music featured in today's episode was: • Somewhere in My Memory and Star of Bethlehem — By John Williams • The Klezmer's Wedding — By André Moisan • Highland Lament — By The Corries • Sonata No. 1 for Violin, Opus 13: I. Molto Moderato — Played by Michael Davis

On this Bonus Bang, comedian extraordinaire Max Silvestri joins Scott to talk about the doors that have opened since his legendary ten-minute stand-up set at a festival in Johnny Carson's honor, growing up driving near a drive-in movie theater, and his new scripted Audible podcast “Past My Bedtime.” Then, celebrity podiatrist Harry Footman stops by to make a confession. Plus, truck enthusiast Kayla Dickie returns to talk about how her town celebrates Ford Rock Hard Eve. Originally released November 27, 2022. Don't forget to check out the Comedy Bang! Bang! Action Figures at shop.figurecollections.com and go to actionfigurecellar.com for international purchases. If you want more great episodes of Comedy Bang! Bang! become a subscriber at comedybangbangworld.com. We have all of the past episodes from the archives, every live show, ad-free new episodes, and original shows like CBB Presents and Scott Hasn't Seen. Find more great Comedy Bang! Bang! merch at https://www.podswag.com/collections/comedy-bang-bang Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/cbb Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

   Chief Justice John Roberts most famous quote is, "The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race."  And boy, oh boy, did the Supreme Court back that up in a big way with a 6-3 decision that ends the ability to redraw congressional district lines to give extra benefits to people based on their race.  This is big.... and corrects a decades old problem of turning the other cheek to "reverse racism."    We've got a clip that's gone viral this week from Johnny Carson that shows us maybe it's possible to make late night television great again.    A congressman from Texas stuns everyone watching as he gets his five minutes with an abortion loving witness... warning... this is graphic but we will play it for you.    Paston Adam Hamilton is announcing whether he's running for Senate and if he's declaring a party.   The Royals fall to the A's even as BWJ continues his hot streak, MLB is getting ready to expand to 32 teams and we share with you the post draft status of each team in the AFC West.    Flag football is getting bigger, did you know there is a collegiate dynasty and it's very close to Kansas City?    And it's two Kings week in DC but there's another king making a comeback in America.  The story of two CEO's of burger giants McDonalds and Burger King and what has happened to their sales figures after a couple viral moments caught on tape.

Glenn starts the show by discussing the latest controversy regarding Jimmy Kimmel and his "joke" about Melania Trump looking like an "expectant widow." Both Melania Trump and President Trump called for Jimmy Kimmel to be fired, prompting Kimmel to double down. Should ABC terminate Kimmel based on this latest controversy? Glenn's answer may surprise you. Glenn also plays a clip from the 1981 Academy Awards following the assassination attempt against Ronald Reagan, in which host Johnny Carson and the liberal audience acted civilly and respectfully. Former Levi's brand president and founder and CEO of XX-XY Athletics Jennifer Sey joins to share what she experienced during the shooting at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. Glenn monologues on how differently each side views critical issues in America and how all the noise is preventing progress. Glenn shares a personal story about his experience with censorship at ABC, involving then-Disney CEO Bob Iger. Tangle editor at large and co-host of "The Fifth Column" Kmele Foster joins to discuss what conservatism may look like once Trump's final term is done. Glenn and Kmele also discuss the Jimmy Kimmel controversy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

​It's Tax Day, and Opie is officially ditching the human touch for AI tax prep. He breaks down why a computer algorithm is a massive upgrade from his former accountant—a guy who operated out of the back of a strip club and insisted on wearing a clown nose while filing legal documents to the IRS.​In the studio, comedy legend Al Lubel explains why he is actively protesting Stephen Colbert outside his own theater after a late-night booking went south. From the "glory days" of Johnny Carson to the specific neuroses of Jerry Seinfeld, Al leaves no stone unturned.​Plus:​The NYC Doorman Strike: Are the guys opening your door actually making more than you? The truth about under-the-table tips and the impending strike.​Ron the Waiter's Coney Island Disaster: Why jumping into the Atlantic in April leads to an immediate, soul-crushing brain freeze.​Subscribe to Opie Radio for the best stories from 500 feet above NYC.KeywordOpie Radio, Al Lubel, Stephen Colbert, Tax Day 2026, AI Taxes, NYC Doorman Strike, Johnny Carson, Jerry Seinfeld, Coney Island, Ron the Waiter, Comedy Podcast, New York City

Arsenio Hall grew up in Cleveland dreaming of being the next Johnny Carson – kind of. “I wanted to do this show that didn't exist when I was a kid, and I knew the talent was out there.” Hall spoke with Tonya Mosley about his groundbreaking talk show, ‘The Arsenio Hall Show,' and why he decided to end it, despite its massive success.  Before he was a comic, producer and the “roastmaster,” Jeff Ross was a kid growing up in his family's kosher catering hall in New Jersey, serving weddings and bar mitzvahs. “My bar mitzvah was like something between a Super Bowl halftime show and like something Saddam Hussein would throw for one of his kids,” he tells Terry Gross. Ross shows his more vulnerable, introspective side in his new Netflix comedy special, ‘Take a Banana for the Ride.' To manage podcast ad preferences, review the links below:See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

Hall grew up in Cleveland dreaming of being the next Johnny Carson. He got close – closer than anyone expected – and then he walked away. Thirty years later, he's finally telling the full story in a new memoir. “I wanted to do this show that didn't exist when I was a kid and I knew the talent was out there,” he tells Tonya Mosley. I found Bruno Mars and put him on the show when he was two feet tall. I wanted those things that Johnny didn't do.” He talks about some of the iconic moments of 'The Arsenio Hall Show,' his decision to end it, and his friendships with Jay Leno and Richard Pryor.Jazz historian Kevin Whitehead marks the 100th birthday of the composer Randy Weston.To manage podcast ad preferences, review the links below:See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

Writer, journalist and pop culture expert Steve Cox has authored more than twenty books on film and television, including books about Johnny Carson, The Three Stooges, "The Addams Family," "I Dream of Jeannie," "The Munsters," "It's a Wonderful Life" and "The Wizard of Oz." This week, Steve joins Gibert and Frank for a lively (and then some) conversation about Larry Fine's lady-killing, the unappreciated comic timing of Fred Gwynne and “Grandpa” Al Lewis, and Abbott and Costello's influence on Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David. PLUS: A Munchkin suicide hoax! Mayor McCheese cleans up! Buddy Hackett enjoys a malted! And Frank attends a Stooge funeral! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices