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PETE SANTILLI SHOW - #2367 - 6PM SUNDAY - MARCH 14, 2021 LIVE BROADCAST: 9AM https://vimeo.com/event/706533 6PM https://vimeo.com/event/706574 EP 2367-BREAKING: Boxing Great Marvin Hagler Dies! (Death-By-Fauci?) Boxing great Marvin Hagler died on Saturday. Thomas “Hit Man” Hearns asked supporters for prayers on Saturday for Marvin Hagler saying Marvin was in the ICU days after taking a COVID-19 vaccine. https://thepetesantillishow.com/archives/17188 Special Guest: Sheriff Mark J. Dannels is a 36-year veteran of law enforcement. He holds a Master’s Degree in Criminal Justice Management from Aspen University and is a Certified Public Manager from Arizona State University. Sheriff Dannels has 3 primary objectives: Organizational Development, Border Security and Community Outreach. He began his law enforcement career in 1984 after serving a successful tour in the United States Army. He progressed through the ranks with the Cochise County Sheriff’s Office to the position of Deputy Commander after working numerous specialty assignments and leadership roles to include an appointment by the Arizona Governor for his dedicated efforts directed toward highway and community safety. Sheriff Dannels is a long time member of the Fraternal Order of Police, appointed member of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security Advisory Council, current member of the National Sheriffs Association where he serves as the Border Security Chairman.
On the latest episode of the Conduit Street Podcast, Arizona Association of Counties (AACo) Executive Director Jennifer Marson joins Kevin Kinnally and Michael Sanderson to discuss how Arizona is responding to the COVID-19 pandemic, Arizona's election results and process, and a number of other pressing issues in our respective states.Jennifer Marson manages the daily operations of the Association and the Government Services Foundation, directs the state and federal government affairs program, and cultivates new business and membership opportunities. She also serves as the primary liaison to the National Association of Counties, other state associations, and coordinates the AACo's educational outreach programs. Jen’s research and advocacy areas of expertise include property taxes, elections, public records, criminal justice, law enforcement, justice and superior courts, and education. Jen has been with AACo since 2002 when she started as the legislative intern. Since then she has worn nearly every hat in the Association before being selected as Executive Director in 2013.She serves on several boards and committees including the Academic Advisory Board for ASU’s School of Public Affairs, the Audit Committee for the National Sheriffs Association, the Membership Committee of the National Association of Counties, and the Board of Directors of Scorpius Dance Theatre.Jen is a yoga enthusiast and native of Arizona. She received both a Bachelor of Arts and a Master’s degree in Communication Studies from Arizona State University with an emphasis in rhetoric and advocacy.MACo has made the podcast available through all major platforms by searching Conduit Street Podcast. You can also listen on our Conduit Street blog with a recap and link to the podcast.You can listen to previous episodes of the Conduit Street Podcast on our website.Useful LinksArizona Association of CountiesArizona MapMACo's Pooled OPEB Investment Trust Fund
Brown-Forman and the Kentucky Distillers' Association are two organizations focused on growing bourbon both domestically and internationally. Taylor Amerman and Ali Mize represent these brands to balance the scales by focusing on ways to promote a better drinking culture. This means awareness of moderation, being inclusive of those who don’t drink, and how more ID checking systems are being installed at distilleries across the state. As we go into the holiday season, please remember to be safe and drink responsibly. Show Partners: In 2013, Joe Beatrice launched Barrell Craft Spirits without a distillery or defied conventional wisdom. To this day, his team sources and blends exceptional barrels from established producers and bottles at cask strength. Learn more at BarrellBourbon.com. Receive $25 off your first order at RackHouse Whiskey Club with code "Pursuit". Visit RackhouseWhiskeyClub.com. Show Notes: Worst Old Fashioned: https://www.esquire.com/food-drink/drinks/a30172952/viral-old-fashioned-cocktail-video-jim-beam-redo/ The Craft Beverage Modernization and Tax Reform Act: SpirtsUnited.org, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/business/economy/craft-distilling-liquor-tax.html This week’s Above the Char with Fred Minnick talks about control states. How did you get into bourbon? How did you end up in this position? Tell us about your background. Talk about bourbon and the environment. What are the responsibilities of your position? What's Intellicheck? Does it track which distilleries you visit? Any concern about upsetting consumers? Tell us about what you all are doing with mocktails. What did you do with mocktails at Derby? What is on the event checklist? How do you promote social responsibility in marketing? What's next to lobby for? Tell us about ride sharing. What do you want the listeners to takeaway? For more information on responsibility efforts, visit brown-forman.com/responsibility and kybourbontrail.com/responsibility. 0:00 We encourage you when you get home to check with your local DMV to make sure that this idea is real. We'd love to have you on the tour today but you will not be participating in the tasting. 0:09 Well, at least they can go and see everything. Absolutely. Just like Jimmy John's the smells are free. 0:13 Yeah, exactly. Just like Jimmy John's. 0:28 What's going on everybody? It is Episode 232 of bourbon pursuit. I'm Kenny and we've got just a little bit of news to go through. And I think by now everyone has seen the viral sensation of the girl who made probably the worst old fashion of all time. It was originally shot in 2010 by mahalo calm, it had muddled cherries and oranges, a whole pint of Jim Beam bourbon. I mean, it was bad. But now Janae Nyberg, the actress on that video has made a reappearance. The folks over at Jim Beam tracked her down and gave her a shot at redemption. In an esquire.com article they talked about how the video started and what she's up to now, beam gave her a second shot and she nailed this time making the perfect old fashioned. You can watch the original and the new video with the link to esquire.com. In our show notes, the craft beverage modernization and Tax Reform Act is a tax cut for thousands of small distilleries, breweries and wineries across America. And they take that tax cut to reinvest it back into the distillery to continue to grow it. And it was a steep cut in the federal excise tax on alcoholic beverages. And Congress passed this at the end of 2017 as a part of the tax cuts and JOBS Act, and it is now set to expire on December 31. And legislators have until Friday to extend it if they don't distilleries will face a 400% tax increase with the first payment for money due on January 15. This as the craft beverage producers scrambling with Thought of potential employee layoffs or even worse, maybe even closing their doors. You can read the article posted by clay rising on the New York Times with a link in our show notes. And you can also go to spirits united.com to sign a petition and help make a difference today. Once again spirits united.com heaven Hill is coming out strong with two new releases soon. We talked about larceny barrel proof before and that will start hitting the shelves in January of 2020 with a price point of $50 SRP and then you have old Fitzgerald fall 2019 released that will be the highest age release of this particular expression at 15 years old. And the suggested retail price on that one is $150. And you've heard it from rackhouse whiskey club in the middle of the podcast, but Bardstown bourbon company will be releasing their prisoner collaboration in 13 states starting in 2020. The prison or wine collaboration begins with a nine year old Tennessee bourbon that the Bardstown bourbon company Finished for 18 months in the prisoner French oak red wine barrels, the resulting whiskey is bottled at 100 proof and the collaboration will be available in January 2020 with a suggested retail price of around $125. Now, we've never done a podcast like this before, but we want to highlight everything that's happening in our world of bourbon. Taylor, a member in an ali Mize come from two different organizations, both focused on growing bourbon both domestically and internationally. Brown Forman and the Kentucky distillers Association are balancing the scales by focusing on ways to promote a better drinking culture. That means teaching moderation being inclusive of those who don't drink and how more ID checking systems are being put in place at distilleries across the state. It's really some things that I even found out that were new that were happening as well. So you end up finding some some pretty unique things here. And as we go into this holiday season, please remember, be safe and drink responsibly. All right, let's kick off the podcast. Here's Joe from barrel craft spirits. And then you've got Fred Minnick with above the char it's Joe from barrell bourbon. 4:08 In 2013. I launched barrel craft spirits without a distillery and defied conventional wisdom. To this day My team and I source and blend exceptional barrels from established producers and bottle strength. Use the store locator on barrell bourbon com. 4:22 I'm Fred Minnick. And this is above the char. This week's idea comes from Twitter from it's just Raleigh. It's just Raleigh asked state run systems, North Carolina versus private Kentucky, Florida, etc. He's basically getting to the question of what is the difference between the state run systems like where you have state run Liquor Control boards or monopolies, if you will, and the private states that allow liquor stores to come in and be privatized and you know, individuals or corporations can 5:01 can sell alcohol in a in respective package store. And I'll tell you I'm kind of mixed on this because you get really good data about sales and, and who's getting what in the control state. So like every year, Pennsylvania, while it is mired with its own problems, they released the number of bottles of Pappy and Buffalo Trace antique collection that they get. And that's something that I would love to see broken out from the liquor store side. Now with that said, they all have these very unique laws, a lot of them have price control, and that they will not mark up whiskey above the SRP. That's something you certainly don't see in the private states, which is why you see something like, Well, our 12 year old or Elmer t leiby, five $600 when that's far, far above the the SRP. Now one thing that I'm starting to hear about control states is that they are cracking Down on private barrels. So this is something I'm still looking into. And if you're having some problems with this, you know, please feel free to reach out to me as I, you know, further investigate it. But what's happening is some of these control states are looking at bourbon clubs as competition to their own single barrel programs. And so they're starting to put restrictions and, and rules on clubs that you don't see in private states. And I don't think I like that very much. But at the end of the day, the entire system of selling alcohol is beyond broken. I mean, we're still dealing with laws that were established for the most part in the 1930s. You're only just now peeling away. You know, a lot of these blue laws in some states. So for the past decade, the lawmakers and a lot in places like Alabama, Texas and Kentucky have done a very good job of getting Getting rid of a lot of stupid laws, but the fact is, many of them are still there. And it probably won't be in my lifetime, but at some point, we will have a more cohesive alcohol system. But again, it won't be in my lifetime. And that's this week's above the char Hey, if you want to be like, it's just Raleigh, hit me up on Twitter or Instagram at Fred minich that's at Fred MiniK Until next week, cheers Welcome back to the episode of bourbon pursuit the official podcast of bourbon. Can you here today riding solo but talking about a topic that we typically would never have thought of, you know, we're all about brands, Master distillers distilling techniques, social, the culture of of of bourbon and stuff like that. But there is there is one aspect of it I think that gets overlooked and that is, knowing your limits knowing when not to drive you get to know these these types of things of me. Making sure that you are being a good citizen, a good consumer of the brown water at the end of the day. And this was really kind of a topic that really kind of came out of out of the blue for me, I actually had an opportunity to meet one of our guests today at a dinner that was actually sponsored by the University of Kentucky. And then from there, we just started talking, I had no idea that this department these positions even existed inside of these, these corporations, and that even the Kentucky distillers Association had people that were dedicated to this as well. So it's going to be something that I found super interesting. And I think you're going to find it interesting as well, because there's just there's a lot of things that happen with inside the bourbon world. And a lot of times that we want to make sure that we're promoting the right things. We talk about what we're drinking all the time. And what we have we have like nine pours is something as we're sitting down and trying a bunch of stuff in a lineup, but we need to make sure that we actually have the capability and wherewithal to kind of know exactly what we're doing after that. So today on the show, I want to be introduce two of our guests. So we have Taylor. Taylor is the global alcohol responsibility manager for brown Forman Corporation. And Alamein, the director of social responsibility for the Kentucky distillers Association. So ladies, welcome to the show. Thank you. Absolutely. So before we kind of dive into this, we kind of want to get understand your backgrounds, kind of like where did you kind of start coming? I usually start the show, talking to people like where did they where did they start really get introduced to bourbon? Do you all have a story where you got introduced to bourbon or something where you got this kind of role like got you into bourbon? 9:35 I would say my experience at Brown Forman got me into bourbon. So I interned for brown Forman while I was attending the University of Kentucky, my junior and senior year and that's where I really got to understand old forester and Woodford Reserve. 9:50 But you Allie 9:51 Taylor Taylor, bourbon I mean bourbon has always been a part of my life as a little million and a Kentucky and but I had spent some time working in Belgium after college. and came back to the oval and really had never been legal drinking age adult in this in this city. And so I met Taylor through some networking and she introduced me to her work at Brown Forman. And when I went to go get my MBA, she really helped me understand what this field of corporate responsibility was all about. I wrote my capstone with the company and on the production of bourbon barrel beer and Western Europe, actually, and then came back worked at yum brands for a little bit on their sustainability team. And when this role opened up, Taylor and her old boss Rob really helped champion me into the role so I have a lot of my bourbon history to think, or that Taylor to think that 10:36 Yeah, I've got to say we've pushed we all set the stage as well as you two are also very, very good friends outside of work. Yes, that here like bridesmaids and everything like that. That's going on around here to full disclosure, full disclosure. Yeah. So there might be some collusion involved at the same exact time, right? It's true. So I guess, since Taylor, you kind of had the the kind of started the path to here. So, what kind of got you into this and you know, you mentioned like interning here, what was that intern position and then what led that into this sort of full time position as as that internship ended. 11:13 So in full disclosure, I have an accounting degree for my undergrad, but then moved abroad and got my first masters in corporate social responsibility from the University of Nottingham and England, where companies are really focused on broader societal needs, whether it be around the environment or social issues. So after I graduated, I came back to brown Forman, leading some of our environmental sustainability work, but over the last four years leading alcohol responsibility and what that means here at Brown Forman, we'll kind of talk 11:44 a little about the environmental thing because I think that's also like a unique aspect of what happens in regards of bourbon production. Everybody kind of wants to understand like, Is there a carbon footprint with bourbon? Is there a way we have to worry about sustainability with wood and barrel And Cooper, James and all that kind of stuff kind of talk a little about that background. 12:03 Absolutely. So that is all housed in our production operations right to reduce water energy, efficiencies, how, where our grains and come from the wood that we saw, right? But then also how can we tell those stories to consumers and key buyers and retailers that are also interested in environmental sustainability. So corporate responsibility as a whole is environment diversity and inclusion, community relations and alcohol responsibility. So it's like who we are as a company, and it's not new. We've been doing this since day one at Brown Forman right we were the first company to have a sealed bottle of whiskey for safety and concern of the consumer and everybody listens to the backstory with with Jackie as I can. On our past episodes, we talked about the old forester brand and really how that really pioneered a lot of the exactly what you're talking about there. So Ali, I kind of want to get a little bit of your Background because you were doing some of this at Yama as well, in regards of social responsibility yamas bulleit. Understand it's it's KFC and Taco Bell. So kind of talk about how you're making tacos a better place in the world. 13:12 Yeah, well, we were really hoping to transition yums shareholder base into longer term shareholders that really understood the value of social responsibility and environmental sustainability. Because at the time when I was there, they had an activist investor on board, and their ratings in the social and environmental spaces were kind of low. And so how could we kind of educate investors about what the company was doing proactively and to reduce waste in their supply chain to improve human rights concerns and those kinds of things and ultimately increase their share price. But what I do for the Kentucky distillers association is a little bit different and that my main focus is really around Governmental Affairs and making sure that our distillers are proactive in their responsible retailing efforts so that we can continue to go to To the Kentucky legislature and make asks like for the ability for people to ship their bourbon home when they visit a distilleries, Visitor Center, the ability to enjoy a cocktail. When you go to a distillery, I think a lot of people forget that wasn't a privilege before 2016 in the state of Kentucky. So we really proactively use our responsibility efforts on the lobbying and advocacy side as well. 14:21 Yeah, I mean, we will definitely get into that because I know that I've seen it on the bourbon trail. Now you go in somewhere. And there's there's a lot of license scanners that are placed everywhere. So we'll talk until a check. Oh, gosh, all right. Now we're, let's let's not give away all the secrets, people figure out how to hack it right. Now, we won't find about that, but we'll hit on that here in a little bit. So, you know, I guess, Taylor, I kind of want to kind of come back to you here a little bit, you know, coming to this into this particular role. What were what were some of the really the guidelines or what were the some of the things that were really in the job description about what you're supposed to be promoting at Brown Forman? 14:58 Absolutely. So this job was given to And so I was like, What in the world is 15:02 that they like they made the position for you when you came in kind of thing. 15:05 So it we've had this position probably about 15 years, and I'm the third person to have this type of for all. Specifically, again, the work has been happening for a longer time, but to have a dedicated resource to this. But we also need to define what that means. And it's more than Please drink responsibly, right. Okay, that's a legal compliance line. So we had to define that. It's in within Corporate affairs. So I support all of our brands, all of our markets and all of our employees around the world. 15:34 And that's a lot because brown Forman is not a small company. It's 15:37 not a small company, almost 5000 employees globally, and we believe it has to start with us, right if our vision is to create a responsible drinking culture, it has to start with our internal culture here at Brown Forman so our employees understand what those behaviors and expectations that if they do choose to drink, it is in moderation, but we also respect the choice not to drink here as well. 30 30% of Americans don't drink alcohol. And that is adults doesn't include the kids. So it's 30% of adults don't drink alcohol. But again, it's within Corporate affairs. So for us alcohol responsibility is across a variety of topics. So not surprising is preventing under age access and consumption, just like we mentioned with ID scanners, preventing drunk driving. So our partnerships with lift and Uber and taxi companies, but a few that make us bit different are supporting addiction recovery. We do a lot that addresses sexual assault and harassment in respecting the choice not to drink. Wow. 16:38 Okay, we're going to touch on each one of those a little bit, because I'm a big fan of Uber. So we kind of want to start here talking with Allie first because you know, as you were kind of saying that when we before we started recording here that Ali's role is sort of like an umbrella across a lot of Kentucky and bourbon and stuff like that. So Allie, kind of kind of give us an idea of like, what the job description is and Sort of what you all are doing, and putting measures in place to make sure that people are trying to do a lot more socially responsible actions. 17:08 Sure. Well, I've learned a lot from Taylor and brown Forman. And so a lot of my job at the Kentucky distillers association is taking best practices from companies like brown Forman and beam, Sentry and biagio that are kind of leading in this space, and raise up the next generation of micro distillers to have the same practices. And so we're all about collective responsibility. And I think that that comes through in a few different ways. One is establishing best practices so that distillers know practically what it means to embed alcohol responsibility into their day to day operations, whether that be manufacturing, marketing, tourism, any event. And so we have a series of very simple checklists about what things you can do in your ticketing in your gift shop in your tour, talking points to incorporate those aspects. And then we build data driven partnerships to kind of bring those best practices to Life. So partnering with Intel attracts age ID solution to make sure that tour operators have a chance to scan IDs authenticate that they are real and prevent under age access to alcohol. And we've caught over 500 fake IDs at distilleries since that program was implemented. So it's super practical, or we work a lot with the mocktail project to increase non alcoholic drink menus across the state. And so helping get our distilleries involved in that program, particularly through a campaign we run each October called mock October. And that's really used as a period after bourbon Heritage Month whenever anyone is kind of worn out. Say, let's take it take the weekend. Relax, we need a break. Oh, yeah, and learn what options exist in terms of zero proof cocktails. And we work with better drinking culture on an auditing program that holds our distilleries accountable to the best practices. So they have if they want an outside consultant, kind of figure to come in and really check and say, here are the ones you're upholding. Here's some areas where you're struggling. We have some resources to help you with that, that partnerships in place. And then we work a lot with lift and other transportation providers, like mint julep tours are in our limo to really make sure that people don't make the choice to drink and drive. So partnerships. And then I would say the last aspect is really raising awareness of the industry's commitment and actual programming amongst legislators, tourism partners, and the consumers and making sure that we get that story across. So best practices, partnerships, awareness, raising media campaigns. 19:33 So let's let's dive into some of these a little bit a little bit deeper here, because you talked about some good points. And I actually, this is a very recent memory, your mind going to four roses and actually doing a barrel pick. They said, Hey, we need everybody's IDs. And we're like, we didn't do this six months ago with we talking about and yeah, so Mandy was there, she scanned all of our IDs and make sure everybody's, you know, over 21 I guess. So first off, it's really cool to see that intelligence is working. I think it's very ballsy if somebody that's under 21 to go into this Hillary and try buy a bottle. I mean, you would think that that would be something that we are all under 21 at some point, but you do you think they'd be like, yeah, I'll just go like the corner store the corner mark, I'm not going to go to a gift shop to go do something like 20:11 this. They just want the experience with their friends, though, if you think about it, they're not always trying to buy the bottle. Sometimes they're trying to get on the tour and have the tasting and have that experience with their friends. So I think that's where we see it more so than in the gift shops with bottle purchases. But you're right, it is surprising that there have been over 500 fake IDs caught on the bourbon trail. I think it's really educated, the distilleries and the industry to that, hey, this is such a necessary tool. You know, it started with just a few distilleries adopting it and bringing it to the attention of the group. This was an option and something that we should pursue as an industry. And what we did was really work with three different ID authentication providers to test the state's best fake ID so we partnered with Alcohol Beverage Control, got their best fakes and really check them on all the different systems and intelligent every time hands down came up with The best system. And so, over time, we've had more and more distilleries come on board to the point where there are 28 distilleries across the state using this technology. And it's great because it sends a consistent message, right? It's not one distillery, doing it over here, and then the next place doesn't do it. And all of a sudden, someone gets angry that they were asked for it at the other location. It's really about providing a consistent consumer experience along the Kentucky bourbon trail and craft tour. And so a lot of other cool things to note are that we have global ABC enforcement officers using the same ID checking technology, when they're going to do their spot checks at Louisville retailers, when they're going to your corner liquor store to make sure they're not serving minors. And they know that store has an issue. They're showing them the technology that Kentucky distilleries use and recommending that that person adopted so that's a really cool case study of where industry has actually influenced government and regulation. And, and I think we're really excited about it. If you were at forecastle, about two weeks ago, you'd also notice that all of their We're serving stations using teletrac, as well. So it's definitely a resource that we promote to our partners across the state. 22:06 Oh, it's good. I'm glad to see the technologies working in the favor for for this as well. I'm assuming that if somebody does scan a fake ID, they're not like here go tracking at the next place. They're actually they're probably, they're probably taking it right. So 22:17 it's actually illegal to be in possession of a fake ID in the state of Kentucky, even if you are a distillery, confiscating it from a gas. So generally, the protocol that we train the distillery employees to say is, we've been alerted to a problem with your ID based on our intelligence system. We encourage you when you get home to check with your local DMV to make sure that this ID is real. We'd love to have you on the tour today, but you will not be participating in the tasting. 22:43 Well, at least they can go and see everything. Absolutely. Just like Jimmy Johns the smells are free. 22:47 Yeah, exactly. Just like Jimmy Johns. 22:50 So I kind of want to talk about the intelligence thing a little more because this is something that is is becoming pretty ubiquitous as you are going down the bourbon trail and I think this is also So something that maybe our listeners want to know is, is it tracking you, as you are going to every single distillery? Like is it say like top? Sorry, you've done three today. We're capping you there, like, is there? Is there some sort of tracking mechanism that's involved with it, too? 23:14 Yeah. So that's a really interesting question. And I think that we have the capability to add that functionality in the future. Right now. We're just focused on making sure IDs get scanned, and that no one under age has access to how call 23:27 Ali's your next big brother here. 23:29 Okay. Yeah, that technology does have the ability to store some demographic information, no personal identifying information. So it's not going to store your name, for instance, but it could store that a male who is your age, and from this state visited the distillery on this day and time and so what that does, especially our craft distilleries, it helps them understand the demographic of their consumers better and if they know that they had a ton of visitors from the state of Michigan, come in in the past. Few months, and they don't have distribution. And then in that state, that's something that they can talk to their distributor about and really pursue. And so it's, again, not storing that personal identifying information. But it is storing demographic things that can really help our guys on the business side as well. And so all of a sudden, you have this responsibility tool that has become a great marketing tool as well. The last thing I'll say about the storing of information, besides the fact that this is really an encrypted technology that has passed through the legal teams of brown Forman, and all the other big companies within our membership is that it does have the capability to do exclusive groups that can be controlled by the managers at the visitor centers. So an example of a group that we have set up that is not currently in use, but could be in the future is banned and intoxicated. So let's talk about the difference between those intoxicated means that you would be flagged here it would be flagged for 24 hours in the system, and then banned means that you wouldn't you be marked forever along the trail. And so while by 25:03 the KDA that's 25:04 Yeah, that's basically that's what it could become. But it is really intended if you're intoxicated and all these distilleries are sharing the same technology. If you go to Evan Williams, and you show up and you're highly intoxicated already, they can flag that idea that when you go down the road to Victor's and your idea scans using the same technology, it's going to pop up with a note and say, Hey, this person was flagged as being intoxicated, maybe think twice before serving them. So again, the technology is never giving a mandate around how to treat that person and their identification. It is helping guide the distillery employee and making smart choices and protecting the consumer which is what the technology is all about. And I think the last thing I want to add because I remembered it coming back to your point about four roses scanning every ID is that's been the most interesting trend for me to watch is I think the perception in Kentucky. A I'm clearly above 21. And how dare you ask for my ID. But we really in the alcohol industry view drinking is a privilege, right? I mean, it is an honor to be able to go into these distilleries and obtain their product and it can cause impairment. And you go out to a state like Oregon, Portland, Oregon, you go out to distilleries or wineries out there, and they do check your ID every time. And so how do we create this mentality shift that says, alcohol is a privilege, not a right and when you consume you need to consume responsibly, otherwise, that privilege can be taken away? 26:34 Because that's how society views it. Right? Absolutely. 26:36 Absolutely. And I think you also brought up another point right there, you know, if somebody is flagged and they are going from one place to another Are you are you ever worried that it could create some bad juju that could possibly happen, right? I mean, this somebody that that is under the influence they do and they're like, I got a driver like I'm fine, like let me through like blah blah, blah, like In God forbid, you know, security gets caught like Does that ever kind of like run through your mind of like, what could the potential happen if we do sit there and pick a bunch of drunk people off? If they're trying to do this? 27:10 I think I'm more afraid of the potential of what happens if we don't do anything. Right. And so, I think that as we grow in our responsibility efforts as an industry, and I would say, brown Forman is the most leading at this but I think more and more distillery employees feel comfortable making that gametime decision knowing that their boss has their back that intoxication isn't acceptable. And just because you have a safe ride, doesn't mean you're a responsible drinker, like there are limits and you shouldn't show up to a tour and disrupt other people's experiences just because you made the choice to over consume. And so I feel really confident that intelligence is a tool that empowers our tour guides to make the right choice but they of course are also trained to provide a hospitable experience and they are never going to publicly admonish someone Or make them feel embarrassed. It's all about having the wherewithal on how to deal and intervene in those situations. Hey, can I get you a glass of water? Before you go on your tour? You look like you've had a long day. Come Tell me about your experiences along the trail, you know, how do we equip them with the right tools and skill sets to be able to handle this awkward situation? 28:20 Hopefully didn't get too awkward, not a hand in so I guess you also brought up something about mocktails. And I think that's something we've we've touched on the podcast before of looking at New York Times articles saying like mocktails, or the new craze, like the, you know, alcohol free bars, you know, so kind of talk about what the the distilleries and what KDA is trying to do of getting into this sort of mocktail category as well. 28:46 Yeah, I can talk about it overall, but I'm really excited for you to talk to Taylor because brown Forman has definitely taken the lead on this including serving the first official mocktail at Derby. So, um, you will definitely Oh yeah, we're gonna go there, but I'm the monitor. Nothing really happened kind of organically to be totally honest. I mean, we have always held a tremendous respect for the choice not to drink in Kentucky and along the bourbon trail that's really important that no one feels that pressure when they come to a very bourbon saturated economy and state right. And but the way that that happened was we were at a local art festival and met a gentleman by the name of Jesse Hawkins, who himself has made the choice not to drink has been sober for a few years now. And he had started a movement back in 2016, called the mocktail project. And when Taylor and I encountered counter Jesse for the first time, he was still very, very grassroots. And which was exciting because we were still figuring out what it looked like to tangibly communicate about this respect. And for the choice not to drink too. And so Jesse really started sharing his story with our distilleries, we gave him a grant to really grow the mocktail project and take these kids to bars and restaurants and say, Are you willing to add a mocktail to Your menu, put a sticker on your front door that indicates that you have that option available so that people who choose not to drink whether they are in recovery, or maybe you're just an expecting mom, or maybe you plan to stay out for five hours this Friday night, and you just know that you'll be on the floor. If you drink bourbon the whole time, and you want something to help you pace. There are so many reasons. But that sticker and that emblem would help people identify the establishments that cared about protecting their health. And so he's really grown that. And over time, we've seen more distilleries get involved and take it their own direction like brown Forman. And I think the one month, like I said earlier that we all get involved is October, and that is generally the second or third week in October, where all the distilleries come together serve these amazing zero proof mocktails. We hold a lot of cool events. This year, we're going to have a sons alcohol pop up bar at butcher town groceries Lola at ostra. some really cool restaurants and mythology involved and we're also taking it a step further on this. Addiction Recovery side too. So this year the official mocktails one will be named after Jesse. But one will be named after a woman at Volunteers of America mid states Freedom House program. And so every one Wednesday a month every month, Volunteers of America brings in local chefs for a chop and chat at their Freedom House Recovery Center for Women who may be expecting children during the recovery process, and they teach them healthy cooking healthy living skills. Well, what about how the drinking skills after you get out of recovery, you're still going to be in social settings like parties where alcohol may be present. And so this year, we thought it was really important to teach them how to mix their own mocktails for those party situations. So ostra is going to be going in with a mocktail project teaching these women how to make cocktails, and they're going to make their own and the winning recipe will be named after the woman and it will be the one we promote during the October campaign so that there's a more human element to why we serve mocktails at the distillery And in bars and restaurants because I think that's what we miss. I mean, everyone knows what a mocktail is. But I think the more impactful thing is, why it's important to include it and why we need to be thoughtful about how we make people feel included, right? We talked about diversity and inclusion and all sorts of industries all the time. What does diversity and inclusion look like in the bourbon industry? From all aspects not just black, white, male, female, but our drinking habits too? 32:24 I gotcha. Yeah, that's good. And by the way, I love OSHA. It's one of my favorite restaurants here in town. Go to I love the churros for dessert. We'll talk about that afterwards. But so Taylor I know we we an alley wouldn't go alleys alleys hog a lot of the air. She's killing it. So So kind of talk about really what brown Forman is doing in this this mocktail category. 32:43 Absolutely. So you know we are deeply committed to it. We have employees who choose not to drink we have board members. We have consumers and business partners that choose not to drink for a variety of reasons. In addition, health and wellness trends right now. And it is invisible. You may not be able to Tell that so we talked about little things. Don't ask why someone's choosing not to drink, right? It should be an invitation I can offer you. But it shouldn't be an expectation to be part of the social setting it. If you are choosing not to drink, you still want to go learn about the history of bourbon, you still want to enjoy our amazing restaurants that we have here in town. So everyone should be welcome. for that. We started an employee resource group. So just like other dimensions of diversity, and ours is called spirit. And it is to respect the choice not to drink. So raise awareness. You know, we have a cafe here on campus, and before spirit, they would cook with alcohol in the food in the desert, but it may not be clearly labeled. And if I accidentally have some cake with bourbon, okay, that's a you know, not a big deal. But if someone in recovery does, that is a really big deal when they weren't expecting that and that can be harmful to them. So just raising awareness, what are those issues that we can change and make a difference? And again, welcome them to brown Forman as employees and guests 34:02 to talk about what you were doing during Derby 34:08 with the careers of master distiller spanning almost 50 years, as well as Kentucky bourbon Hall of Famer and having over 100 million people taste his products. Steve nalli is a legend of bourbon who for years made Maker's Mark with expertise and precision. His latest project is with Bardstown bourbon company, a state of the art distillery in the heart of the bourbon capital of the world. They're known for the popular fusion series, however, they're adding something new in 2020 with a release named the prisoner. It starts as a nine year old Tennessee bourbon that is in finished in the prisoner wine companies French oak barrels for 18 months. The good news is, you don't have to wait till next year to try it. 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It's, it's the whole experience and most the time Yes, it does involve liquor, right, but kind of talk about what you all are doing. 35:45 Yeah, so we are proud to be the official bourbon of the Kentucky Derby with Woodford Reserve and old Forester, and that's wonderful to have those products they are and it's a Kentucky moment for all Kentuckians. But if you are one of those 30% who choose not to drink, you also want something in your hand, that is more than a Diet Coke or a bottle of water. Right? So how can we provide an elevated experience that everyone can shares during my old Kentucky home? So this year we worked with churchill downs and Jesse that alley mentioned with the mocktail project to serve the first official Kentucky Derby mocktail. So Jesse was on site serving 36:20 that what did it consist of? Do you remember? 36:22 Yeah, I think it was lemonade and cranberry. 36:25 Yeah. That's great. That's that's a pretty easy ratio. I mean, because I've seen you know, when they talk about these cocktail bars, you're talking like drinks of upwards of like 810 $12 for stuff and there's there's no spirit in it. So it's like, they must help they're like fresh pressing carrots back there something to make this really like go into it. 36:42 Well, we do talk about it's high margin for accounts. And that should be another reason that they have them on their menu. So not only for being inclusive, and show their values but it's good for business as well. 36:53 I'll see There you go. We know that 36:55 and Taylor's being modest and that 36:58 I know you need to talk untalked Very good. They send Jesse all over the place to all these different industry events like whiskey fast and all these things that where he's really influencing trends because he's in involved in industry conversations with the brown Forman backing and so you should feel, I mean, not a big deal that you have whiskey fest with the mocktail project. I mean, let's talk about that. 37:21 Totally. So the four that were around the country, Jesse went and served mocktails so many people came up to him just to take a break, they might have been pregnant. And it was such a relief because frankly, we find that a lot of non drinkers won't show up. Right? I don't even want to go there. I'm not going to be there. I don't want to deal with it. I don't want to get asked why 100 times I'm not going so he provides a safe alternative that looks beautiful. It's in the same glassware that everyone else does. It just helps them fit in. We also had him at forecastle with old forester I should have mentioned Of course with Derby. That drink was in partnership with Jackie's I can't have old forester and so they promoted it together. We've had him at taste of Derby. My goodness, we are doing a big partnership with him in New Hampshire this year as well with the New Hampshire liquor commission, so he is great. He helps put a real authentic voice behind this to explain why but it's that mocktails and cocktails can coexist. It shouldn't be either or, or you're cool or you're not cool. We're all enjoying it. We're all spending time together and connecting. 38:26 Yeah, I think the one thing that I'm really kind of taking away from this and anally kind of said it best is that this isn't supposed to be like, a line in the sand, right? It's not supposed to divide people and say, like, hey, like, you're over there, we're over here. We don't need to talk to each other. Right? And that it's it's more of a why thing. If If you want to try to party all day and nine, you you know, you're not going to be able to write it's just it's impossible sometimes, especially when you're trying to do bourbon for that time. It's just impossible. And so you can look at some of these as an alternative to like, you know, you don't have to sit there and and be miserable if you don't want to try to do that. Right, you've got to learn to be able to know your limits. And this is something that, you know, it's could be a refresher at the end of it too, right? I mean, I love smoothies, right? I'm sure. I'm sure it's it's got some kind of similarity to the tastes and fruit notes and everything like that along with it as well. 39:16 Yeah, I have a few thoughts on that. I mean, one is that we hear industry and place say that all the time, like I've had for work events every night this week, you know, I'm so excited that there's an option where I can still look like I'm participating and engaging and slow down. But one of the nuances that I've learned from Taylor is that recovery is something to be celebrated. And it's hard to feel celebrate. It's not, it's not something to be like, Oh, I'm so sorry. You're going through that or, oh, gosh, how hard it's no congratulations on your sobriety. And I think that's something that we forget. And it's hard to celebrate. If you don't have awesome drink options, right? Like, congratulations, we're so glad you're here. Here's your soda water. Like that's not a good way to help celebrate. And so I think that's another Important nuance to discuss to. There was one other thing I was gonna say. But you all just have in common I forget my last thought was, 40:07 well, events are so important, right? So always we have a responsible event checklist that we promote for brown Forman events you do for KDA events. 40:14 What's on the checklist? Let's go Let's go some let's start checking these off 40:18 check IDs, right, we'll go with that one providing free water and hopefully it's infused and something nice 40:25 mocktails numbers are like lemons or something. I gotcha. It's like I feel like I'm in like a hotel lobby. I swear. 40:32 Sometimes it goes so so fast. That's what you have to continue to refill throughout the night. non alcoholic beverages, having a point person that you know who to go to, should there be an issue that arises 40:43 like an accountability buddy, is it like, or is it like, 40:47 like, like, Who's the manager? 40:47 Like, there's, there's Gary in the corner. I'm gonna go talk to him like what is what's the point person? 40:52 So should there be an issue or an incident of overconsumption? Who do you go to Who's that the manager is that the bouncer? Who's the person in charge? You don't have to try to figure that out in the middle of a situation you already have a game plan. And then so offering some kind of safe right option. And we can certainly talk about partnerships with lift and Uber. But just to add to, at the end of the day, we want everyone who encounters one of our brands to have a positive experience. We never want them to have so much that they never want to drink it, smell it or buy it again. You know, we found that one of the top three reasons people do not drink whiskey is because they've had that negative experience. Just 41:31 that sounds like it's a most of the time of what we do we talk. Remember what I talked about, again, the show, like, tell me about your first piece of bourbon. I would say 50% of the time when we interview guests, that's the first experience it was a bottle of jack or it was whatever was and they were on the air on the floor for hours. Right and and i think that what you're bringing here is is is a relatively good perception of it of what you actually should be doing right and that you don't want to sit there and say, Oh yeah, I'm not gonna I don't always want to bring this back in. Emory back, right do let's let's try to make a positive engagement out of it. 42:04 Yeah, we don't want any harms to ever happen from alcohol. Right? And so how can what can we do to prevent, to educate to provide those options, but we still need consumers to make those right choices as well. But we're not anti sales, right? We're in the industry. We want to promote these products as being well crafted and something to sip to enjoy to savor it, not to just 42:27 escape. And I think you also bring up a pretty good point of being able to give our listeners this sort of background where they might have significant others that don't share their same passion, right. If they're listening to this. They are the the one percenters of bourbon right there. They're the bourbon nerds that are Yeah, we appreciate it. Yeah. And so and they're in now that if their significant other, they don't have to feel so bad, right, that you all are actually trying to create a different kind of culture. That's just not all whiskey. Right? That it's beyond that. 42:58 Yeah, since you're talking about kids for a second. Sure, the number one factor of kids drinking behavior is parents, right? They're seeing how you talk about it, how you enjoy it, they are watching, right? So that's the number one. In addition, the earlier someone tries, the more likely they are to become addicted. So having that conversation early and often with your kids is so important. So of course in middle school in high school, it is talking about alcohol directly. But even younger you want to build those resiliency factors in your kids, getting them to focus on protective factors, not risk factors that might be within their family. But acknowledging it and talking about it is so critically important. 43:41 I think that brings up kind of almost hits home a little bit for me, most of our listeners, of course are they a lot of them probably have kids and they see the the teen hundreds of bottles that we all have, and and my daughter plays a joke with me. You know people will say like, oh look behind you. There's Elvis in turn around. My little girl goes, Oh, look behind you. There's bourbon. And she does that as like a joke with me, right? And now that you're saying this, I'm kind of like, yeah, I should probably start having that conversation with her. She's five, but to make sure that she understands that like, this is this is not for you, yet, right? One day, but and also make sure you stay away from all the expensive bottles. The other part but, but I mean, in a more serious note, it is something that you do need to be conscious of as a parent, and making sure that you are setting the right example to 44:31 correct even if it comes to cookies, okay, you have one or two cookies. You don't need five or six cookies, right? Well, just thinking that way, talking about moderation and health and wellness, explaining why it's important that she stay away from it. Not just that this isn't for you, this kind of harming your brain. If you consume it before the age of 21 You're still developing this is really important that you know that or when is the appropriate time when your child does become of age. To engage, you'll notice this isn't something mommy and daddy do to cope with problems. This is something that we enjoy, we respect as a craft, and we use it in our celebratory moments. So even having that conversation when they are getting toward drinking age of when, when to engage with alcohol in the appropriate way, because I think a lot of people in our society use alcohol as a coping mechanism. And that is definitely not the best way to see it enjoyed. 45:25 And so while we're on the kids category, as well, I know that at least being in the industry myself, and knowing when you're doing marketing and doing all these things and buying promotional products, like it can't be anything that's related to anything that would be Child's Play whatsoever. So kind of talk about more about really what that is and like how do you promote social responsibility when it comes to marketing and that aspect? 45:49 So first, our industry standards right there discuss now we are all compliant of and then exceed in many ways, and in fact, it's important to know that that doesn't just apply to discuss members. Even nondescript members can have complaints filed against them, should they not abide by one of those rules? So we can probably just give a few examples but one is over 70% of the audience in where we are marketing needs to be over legal drinking age. at Brown Forman we regularly exceed that 80 90% of markets. So whether or not that's on podcasts or digital, Facebook, social media commercials, that's important to us. But I know we alley deals a lot with point of sale. 46:30 Yeah, I mean, making sure that you aren't using models that are above or under 25 years old to just ensure that there is no mistake that any models in your marketing activities look like miners, affluent stars or influencers. Yeah, making sure that you have appropriate age gates on all of your digital materials, including Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, all of that. This is an interesting one to making sure that you are not doing things And that are attractive to minors. And that's where these marketing codes start to get really interesting. So I'm thinking like, cartoons, right, right. How many times have we seen like the little oval mashers on the little bats, right? These cartoon kind of figures that depict bourbon and are intended for legal drinking age adults, but may appeal to minors or the thing I'm seeing on all the influencers accounts now are at the Capri Sun bags where you drink your cocktail out of the Capri Sun bag, right? And who's to say whether that's right or wrong, but it is a fine line. And so the great part about trade associations and approaching alcohol responsibility collectively, is that we provide a forum for our members to come together and discuss these things openly or not openly. Sometimes we have had members come to us in the past and be like, I have a real problem with the add that our colleague x put out. Can you go have a conversation with them and kind of get some background? I don't think it's appropriate for me as an industry competitor to have that conversation, but I do really like it made known to them that we didn't really love that ad and think it could be noticed negatively by a legislator or industry official. 48:09 It reminds me of, I think it was over a year to now, there used to be an Instagram account called scotch trooper. And what he would do is he would actually utilize Stormtrooper figurines in pictures with scotch and I mean, he had it was crazy. He had like almost 100,000 followers on Instagram. It was huge. In then, yep, lawsuits and everything kind of came crashing down on him. It wasn't from you know, George Lucas or anything it was actually from the spirits industry, right. So he lost all the sponsorships. He lost everything from that that point. So it was it was something that it's tough. That's a tough realization, right? Because I mean, it is toy figurines. However, how was it actually presented as like, Oh, this is like child's play. Here there, right. However, this is you also had mentioned something so anybody that's out There that doesn't know. So discuss is an organization. You can google it di SC us. They've got all the rules and regulations on what it is to actually be. I guess marketing responsibly and stuff like that. I remember, we had to go through it just for the podcast to be able to make sure that we were complying with a lot of the regulations of, as you said, adding the age gay to the website, making sure that we do a basically a survey of our audience and making sure that what is it like we have to be like 79.8% positive that everybody listening is over 49:34 know where that number comes from? a tailor said it currently it's 70.6, but it's 3.6. Okay, that's the percentage of the US population, statistically, that's considered to be a legal drinking age adult, according to the US Census. So that number isn't arbitrary. It's designed to reflect the adult population in the US, which is cool to know. 49:54 So it's larger the sample size, right? That's it is the population of the US. So yeah, see, that was one thing I remember. Going through and doing that to make sure that we had all of our ducks in a row and we are trying to find the right people and stuff like that to make sure that we comply with all the guidelines that are that are set out there. So it is good to see that we've actually Thank you. I mean, we've actually encouraged other bloggers and stuff that follow along with us they started adding h gates they started doing that because they're like, why do you have that? I'm like, here go read the PDF. It's long start start now. Yeah, 50:24 hi bourbon lovers should care about that because it protects the industry that they love from over regulation. So if you want good access to bourbon, you should be the biggest responsibility advocate out there because the minute the industry starts to misbehave is the minute that regulators start to take away some of the privileges that bourbon lovers so much enjoy when they come to Kentucky 50:44 Yeah, I was about to think of because you do start to jog my memory again about the the four roses the barrel pick and stuff like that in and really if if, if that system is not in place and something bad does happen, it could potentially change Exactly what bourbon lovers what we enjoy, we get, we get to go do and barrel pics that like, yeah, it's not gonna be the same experience anymore like some like some things will change, right and so everything that's being implemented is being done with a very specific purpose to actually help the broader community. Maybe at first it might seem like the man's coming down on us but it's not supposed to be like that 51:21 responsibility as a part of all our conversations with legislators and we're seeking new privileges and they've given us a ton in recent years. So back in 2014, they passed their bourbon barrel reinvestment credit, which essentially eliminated the bourbon barrel tax and gave it back to distillers as a credit to reinvest and their tourism experiences in their communities to alcohol responsibility in 2015, a past Senate Bill 11, which allowed the by the drink sales at the distilleries, because they knew we could be responsible retailers, that was a huge shift, you're allowing a manufacturer of a product to all of a sudden become a retailer of a product and that blurs those lines, and so they felt confident that distilleries could operate as responsible retailers to allow us to enjoy those cocktails. The next year they gave us the privilege to start serving spirits at fairs and festivals, which was a big one. They also strengthen the definition of Kentucky bourbon whiskey to include liquid that was fermented distilled an aged in Kentucky, not just age changed the game for contract distilling. In Kentucky, which is where we saw Bardstown bourbon company come in the next year. Gosh, we saw spirits shipping, which is something we're working on still, which is a huge concern when it comes to allowing alcohol to get in the hands of miners shipping is a big part of the discussion. And then last year, we actually took our lobbying efforts and use them for social good by helping work on Senate Bill 85, which strengthen Kentucky's DUI laws for the first time in decades, including its ignition interlock program, which helps connect DUI offenders to monitoring and treatment resources that they need so that they won't just be punished legally. But they'll also connect with resources if they do have a drinking problem. 53:04 So what's next on like the the lobbying table for for you all like what are you trying to? I mean, I know shipping is a big one, right? We talked about 53:10 shipping e commerce. 53:11 Yeah, we talked about that all the time, because we see that as kind of like the next generation of where this is all going to go. 53:17 Ecommerce is definitely where we're going. And that's a huge responsibility that our distillers do not take lightly. We're very excited about the opportunity, but there is a lot of details to work out and to be totally transparent and teletrac has it been a big part of that conversation in our conversations with ups and IMS databases and all these things of how do we embed ID checking into those shipping conversations to make sure that not just the person ordering it as of age, the person receiving it as a age because there's all these nuances that we don't think about if you send alcohol to an apartment building where someone's at the front desk receiving packages, but maybe the person who would get it upstairs is You know, not of age or an office building, and all these things that you don't necessarily think about, but are really important to address before you ask for that privilege. 54:08 A lot of variables there a lot of variables there, 54:11 but we want to do it the right way. Right? Everyone does GPS wants to do it correctly. I says the retailer wants to do it. And so how can we work together and collaborate? And I hope you've seen today that it's not just an old forester Woodford issue. It is an industry. And so how can we as an industry come together for collective impact to address some of these big topics? 54:33 We talked about Uber and lift? We're going to talk about that, too. So let's talk about ride sharing, because that was, we see it all the time, it'll come up in the app. There's promotional things that come out when it's bourbon fest time or anything like that, and they'll say, Hey, $50 off your signup or whatever it is. So kind of talk about what kind of relationships you are building there. 54:51 So first, it starts with us so we have a policy that employees can have a safe ride at anytime personal or from a work event. They need it. But that is never a green light to over consume. So it's always that moderation is expected if they choose to drink, but we want them to have access and they can use Uber lift taxis, whatever's most convenient and economical for them. But then we also provide discount codes at our events. So you all can do this too. It's uber.com slash events. And you can create it whether or not you're hosting a holiday party, a New Year's Eve party. St. Patrick's Day, whatever it might be, you can create safe rides for your guests. 55:32 I didn't know that. Yeah, there you go. 55:34 And the alley has a great huge partnership with left. 55:36 Yeah, we've really loved working with lift specifically, we have found them to be a very engaging partner, our values aligned with them and they've invested a lot in the state of Kentucky. So it started along the rural communities in Kentucky bourbon trail. So when we were first looking at preventing impaired driving, we looked at the resources that were available to people who are going to Bardstown. Let's say or For sales out in Woodford, and we realized that we were telling people not to drink and drive, but there wasn't great access to ride alternatives. And those are it sounds like there's like two taxis. So yeah. And the reality is that 70% of people who come to visit the Kentucky bourbon trail are coming from out of state, meaning that they're not familiar with local resources. they're familiar with national resources like Uber and lift. And so we knew we had to partner with one of them. And so we approached both we ended up working with left and we basically convinced them to unlock their technology across the entire state of Kentucky because of the economic development presence of distilleries, because they don't want to unlock their technology and communities where there may not be enough drivers or demand because they don't want people to have that negative experience of not being able to get a ride or signing up to be a driver and never getting any requests. And so we said, Look, we draw a lot of people to these rural communities, and we think that there could be a cause to have your service and So we made an agreement, they unlock the technology and we started hosting breakfasts at some other rural distilleries, including Woodford Reserve and heaven Hill Ozi. Tyler Jeff to kraid basically put invitations to these distillery breakfasts and the local papers on indeed.com. All these really grassroots things and invited the community to come learn what lift was because a lot of them had no clue and understand how you could sign up to drive and earn extra money outside of your other day job. So how can be economic development tool, and most importantly, what impaired driving statistics look like in your specific community and how having that resource in your community would help? And so we really tried to shine a lot of light on it. We did recruit about 25 to 50 drivers and each place it's still a growing and organic effort. However, I will tell you, we've seen success, particularly in owensboro and it's really picked up in owensboro. And you can now get an on demand really ride really easily there and was in large part thanks to Ozi Tyler's leadership in that community coming on board, and we did see it work at Kentucky bourbon festival. The first year after we held those breakfast, we actually brought in some Highway Safety partners from lift and the National Sheriffs Association, and they took a lift out to Bardstown. And we were so nervous because we were like, Oh, no, they got they got there, but are they going to get a ride home when they order it and they had scheduled in advance, and the woman that picked them up was one of the women that had attended one of the distillery breakfasts heaven Hill, and it was just such a cool story to see that that it did make a difference that someone was able to get a safe ride home back to livab
Rod Arquette Show Daily Rundown - Tuesday, October 1, 20194:20 pm: Deseret News columnist Dick Harmon joins Rod to discuss California’s new law allowing college athletes to sign endorsement deals, whether Utah should follow suit, and what the law means for college sports on the whole5:05 pm: Jon Gabriel, Editor-in-Chief of Ricochet.com, joins Rod to discuss his recent piece on the “impeachment frenzy”6:05 pm: Alexander Bolton of The Hill joins the show to discuss why Democrats in red states are worried that the impeachment push will spin out of control6:20 pm: Representative Carol Spackman Moss joins Rod to discuss why she wants to expand the definition of the insanity defense in Utah courtrooms, thereby making it easier to allow treatment instead of prison time6:35 pm: An interview we taped last week at the FAIR Hold Their Feet to the Fire Immigration conference with Jonathan Thompson, Executive Director and CEO of the National Sheriffs Association, about sensible law enforcement when it comes to immigration
The U.S. Department of Justice estimates that police officers shoot and kill more than 10,000 pet dogs in the United States every year. From SWAT raids to standard calls for service and police visits to wrong addresses, officers are often too quick to use lethal force against family pets, despite the fact that no police officer has ever been killed in the line of duty by a dog.In the award-winning documentary Of Dogs and Men, director Michael Ozias and producer Patrick Reasonover delve into the culture of violence against dogs by police officers. Of Dogs and Men provides firsthand accounts of families and individuals who have suffered the loss of a dog killed during a confrontation with law enforcement.The powerful film takes audiences on a journey with pet owners in pursuit of policy change in the legal system. The stories told in Of Dogs and Men have prompted cooperation and best-practices guidelines from law enforcement organizations such as the National Sheriffs’ Association.Of Dogs and Men was chosen as part of the official selection at both the Anthem and the Austin film festivals and was awarded the Honorable Mention Audience Award at the Austin Film Festival. Victoria Stillwell, host of Animal Planet’s Its Me or the Dog, has said, “Every person who has a dog should watch this film. It could be the difference between life and death.” See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
The U.S. Department of Justice estimates that police officers shoot and kill more than 10,000 pet dogs in the United States every year. From SWAT raids to standard calls for service and police visits to wrong addresses, officers are often too quick to use lethal force against family pets, despite the fact that no police officer has ever been killed in the line of duty by a dog. In the award-winning documentary Of Dogs and Men, director Michael Ozias and producer Patrick Reasonover delve into the culture of violence against dogs by police officers. Of Dogs and Men provides firsthand accounts of families and individuals who have suffered the loss of a dog killed during a confrontation with law enforcement. The powerful film takes audiences on a journey with pet owners in pursuit of policy change in the legal system. The stories told in Of Dogs and Men have prompted cooperation and best-practices guidelines from law enforcement organizations such as the National Sheriffs’ Association. Of Dogs and Men was chosen as part of the official selection at both the Anthem and the Austin film festivals and was awarded the Honorable Mention Audience Award at the Austin Film Festival. Victoria Stillwell, host of Animal Planet’s Its Me or the Dog, has said, “Every person who has a dog should watch this film. It could be the difference between life and death.”
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New Bedford, Massachusetts is known for its profitable fishing port. It even draws visitors by celebrating Moby Dick, a novel inspired by whalers there. But facing a crackdown on fishing by regulators, the city is starting to look at another source of revenue – offshore wind. We take a look inside the hidden, often lucrative world of Vermont sheriffs, and mourn (or celebrate??) the end of L.L. Bean's lifetime return policy. Plus: responding to racism on campus through art, and Palestinian storytellers in Boston. A man looks at a harpoon display at the New Bedford Whaling Museum (John Bender/RIPR) Keeping Tabs on the Sheriff When Attorney General Jeff Sessions at a speech to the National Sheriffs Association said “The office of sheriff is a critical part of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement,” he prompted many shocked observers to wonder where that leaves people of color within that heritage. It's also thrown a pretty harsh spotlight on the job of sheriff. But do you even know who your sheriff is? In 2006, an anonymous whistleblower tipped the Vermont state auditor off to financial misdeeds in the Windham County Sheriff’s Department, which was led by Sheila Prue. If you live in Connecticut, that’s a trick question! County government is nonexistent in the Nutmeg State — that’s why there are no sheriffs — but it’s not very strong in other New England states either. While Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Massachusetts have elected sheriffs, their elections don’t get much attention. That lead a listener to the Vermont Public Radio podcast Brave Little State to ask: if voters aren't holding these elected officials accountable, then who is? VPR investigative reporter Emily Corwin dug in and joins us to share some surprising tales of sheriffs going bad — and virtually getting away with it. So, did that dog bed you purchased from LL Bean five years ago get chewed by its occupant? Up until last week, you could just take it back and get a replacement for no charge. But the iconic Maine company is changing its famous unconditional return policy — one that has been a part of the brand since it started more than a century ago. The change comes as a response to the growing number of customers who have been taking advantage of the policy. Maine Public Radio’s Patty Wight reports. “The Last Arrow,” by Thomas Moran, is one of the works slated for sale by the Berkshire Museum. Image courtesy of Sotheby’s And there are plenty of complaints about a deal the Massachusetts attorney general struck with Berkshire Museum. The deal allows, with some conditions, the museum to sell up to 40 works of art — including two Norman Rockwell paintings — to fund renovations and boost its endowment. A group of the museum’s members said it will press forward in a lawsuit attempting to block the sale. New England Public Radio’s Adam Frenier has more. A Maritime Past and Future in New Bedford Boats docked at the Port of New Bedford. (Lynn Arditi/RIPR) New Bedford, Massachusetts was on the front page of the New York Times this week. The headline: “A Famed Fishing Port Shudders as Its Codfather Goes to Jail.” Back in October, fishing magnate Carlos Rafael, also known as “the Codfather,” was sentenced to 46 months in federal prison for mislabeling his catch and money-laundering. But with Rafael behind bars, the men who worked for him are barred from catching groundfish with his boats. Some of Rafael's boats and permits have even been seized by regulators. And as the Times reports, the ripple effects can be felt across the usually bustling port of New Bedford, which has gone eerily quiet. Visitors listen to Moby Dick read aloud, during the annual Moby Dick Marathon at the New Bedford Whaling Museum. (John Bender/RIPR) Yet while the fishing sector sits in limbo, another industry is just gearing up off Massachusetts' South Shore — offshore wind. Right now, the Commonwealth is developing what could be the nation's first large-scale offshore wind project, and New Bedford wants to be a big part of it. Rhode Island Public Radio's environmental reporter Avory Brookins takes a look at that city's bet on offshore wind energy. In the mid 19th Century, New Bedford was one of the world’s whaling capitals. The whaling industry is long gone, but New Bedford is drawing in fans of the world most famous leviathan. RIPR’s John Bender has the story. The RIPR newsroom has been exploring New Bedford for their series “One Square Mile,” and there’s lot’s more at ripr.org. RIPR and the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth are holding a public forum on Wednesday, February 21 called “After the Codfather: The Future of New Bedford’s Fishing Industry.” Admission is free, registration required. Cultural Catharsis A painting of Trayvon Martin was part of a performance piece by Imo Nse Imeh at Westfield State University. (Jill Kaufman) NEPR An art professor recently spent four days painting a six-foot-tall portrait of Trayvon Martin, while spectators came and went. The performance took place at Westfield State University, near Springfield, Massachusetts, where last semester there were numerous reports of racist messages left around campus. New England Public Radio’s Jill Kaufman reports. Nadia Abuelezam performs on stage at “Palestinians, Live!” a night of storytelling in Cambridge, Mass, on January 28. Photo by Annie Sinsabaugh When we hear about Palestinians in the news, it's usually in the context of conflicts or negotiations with Israel. With their stories being so highly politicized, the personal narratives of Palestinians don't often make it to American ears. Nadia Abuelezam, a Palestinian-American living in the Boston area, wants to change that. In 2015, she launched an event series called Palestinians, Live! featuring true stories told on stage. The stories are later released on Palestinians Podcast, which Nadia also created. Reporter Annie Sinsabaugh went to a recent Palestinians, Live! event at the Oberon Theater in Cambridge, Massachusetts, where she found not only entertainment but a community. About NEXT NEXT is produced at WNPR. Host: John Dankosky Producer: Andrea Muraskin Executive Producer: Catie Talarski Contributors to this episode: Emily Corwin, Patty Wight, Adam Frenier, Patrick Skahill, Avory Brookins, John Bender, Jill Kaufman and Annie Sinsabaugh Music: Todd Merrell, Ben Cosgrove, “New England” by Goodnight Blue Moon, “Sama’i” and “Julnar” by Huda Asfour, “September Mountains” by “DrumTamTam” Get all the NEXT episodes. We appreciate your feedback! Send critique, suggestions, questions, story leads, and diaspora stories to next@wnpr.org. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In a highly polarized atmosphere on immigration where federal lawmakers are largely paralyzed on policy change, states and localities in recent years have increasingly taken on a larger role in challenging Washington’s immigration authority. With the Trump administration focused on cracking down on “sanctuary” cities and enticing law enforcement agencies to take a greater role in immigration enforcement, politicians and policymakers in communities across the United States are lining up on opposing sides of the issue. Even as some states and cities are declaring themselves sanctuaries, others are rushing to bar jurisdictions from noncooperation with federal immigration authorities. In this panel, the President of the Major Cities Chiefs Association and the President of the National Sheriffs’ Association discuss immigration enforcement on a panel with immigration attorneys. Themes include the growing patchwork of stances on immigration from states, counties, cities, and even universities and local school boards; what is driving the pattern of increasingly active and litigious states in the immigration space; what the legal landscape is for state/local action; and how the administration may seek to further engage state and local jurisdictions in immigration enforcement.
During the GHSA 2015 Annual Meeting, the National LEL Program sat down with Sheriff John Whetsel, Sheriff of Oklahoma County, Oklahoma and chair of the National Sheriffs Association Traffic Safety Committee, and Ed Hutchinson, Director of Traffic Safety for the National Sheriffs Association, to talk about ways to reduce injuries and fatalities for the law enforcement officers who are on the front lines of traffic safety.