Podcast appearances and mentions of orion syndicate

O'Brien is undercover trying to infiltrate the Orion Syndicate. Did you know the most important thing in the world is family?SUPPORT OUR PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/KandM00:00 | Introduction05:28 | Patron Comments28:10 | About the Episode/Time Capsule33:33 | Trivial Trivia40:50 | Episode Discussion 1:27:15 | The AlamarEmmys!*This is an audio-only feed of K&M's Video Podcast found here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLidGSKPjKhVLDXW-9SDCdmYZR7rvMCIfpKeith and Mike review stuff! We do weekly reviews of Star Trek Action Figures and Episodes of Star Trek Deep Space Nine as well as The Practice. It's silly, it's fun. It's nerdy as hell.#startrektoyreview #startrekfigurereview #deepspaceninereview #ds9review

In today's Star Trek Continues podcast, we talk about the episode "Embracing The Winds" which tries to address Janice Lester's claims that "your world of Starship captains doesn't welcome women" in the episode Turnabout Intruder. This episode does a good job of looking at a contemporary issue in a new way through a Star Trek lens. ----more---- Transcript Welcome to Nerd Heaven. I'm Adam David Collings, the author of Jewel of The Stars. And I am a Nerd.   This is episode 101 of the podcast.  Today, we're talking about the Star Trek Continues episode “Embracing the Winds.”   And I'm excited to announce that the third book in my Jewel of The Stars series is now available in eBook and print from all the usual retailers. You can find links to many of them by going to books2read.com/jewel3 (and that's the number 2 in books 2 read)   Let me quickly read the back cover blurb and then we'll jump into this episode.   Tourists on a cruise. Stranded in an alien battleground   When their warp drive mysteriously stops working, the luxury cruise ship Jewel of The Stars becomes easy pickings for humanity's enemy – the Dracnor. And there may be an enemy agent on board.   Before the fall of Earth, a madman made doomsday predictions on Captain Les Miller's doorstop. How did he know the invasion was coming? Now that same man has been spotted walking the promenade. Les must stop him, but the evidence contradicts what he knows to be true.   Will the legacy of an ancient war mean the end of the galaxy's last free humans? So if that sounds interesting to you, please consider checking it out. You can find the first links to all the books in the series at AdamDavidCollings.com/books   The description on Star Trek Continues.com reads   While the Enterprise is sent on a seemingly routine mission, Kirk is recalled to starbase where he faces an ethical dilemma that challenges the very core of Starfleet Command.   This episode was written by James Kerwin and Vic Mignogna It was directed by James Kerwin And it first aired on the 3rd of September 2016   Star Trek has a problem which was introduced in the original series episode “Turnabout Intruder.” That episode postulates that women are not allowed to be Starship captains in Starfleet. Of course, we'll see a number of female captains after this, in Star Trek 4, Yesterday's Enterprise, and Voyager just to name a couple, and we even saw a female Captain before this, back in Enterprise. It seems a very out-dated concept to think that there are not female captains in the 23rd century. So how do you deal with this?   This episode of Star Trek Continues is one approach to try to explain this issue, which I find very creative.   Another approach, postulated by the youTuber Lorerunner, is simply that Janice Lester was mad (just look at her) and the whole rule against women being Starship captains was all in her mind. I don't mind that explanation either.   Interestingly, Star Trek Continues re-shot the final scenes of Turnabout Intruder as a transitional short film to connect to the new show before their first episode.   So Kirk and Spock have been called down to Corinth IV. Sulu is along for sightseeing and Mckennah for work research.   We get a nice little bit of continuity back to the episode “Lolani” dealing with the fallout in the Orion Syndicate, and how things may be changing due to Lolani's influence. And that's beautiful. This is the kind of ongoing continuity you just didn't get in the original series. Not to this extent.   Sulu makes reference to one of his ancestors being in an internment camp during World War 2, which is a nod to George Takai who actually lived that experience.   I love the planet. Very TOS but with effects that couldn't have been done in the 60s.   I have to ask, are there any high ranking Starfleet officers who don't indulge in Romulan ale? Perhaps Admiral Ross really was the only one. Even Spock relents and drinks after the news he's about to be given.   They meet Commodore Gray. She and Kirk have had some differences. She also appeared in Lolani, where she ordered Kirk to return the Orion slave to her master.   The Crew of Hood have been lost. Some sort of life support failure. No evidence of foul play   Kirk and Spock have been called here because the Hood needs a new captain and crew. Starfleet have chosen Spock   Kirk has mixed feelings. I get this. He's proud of Spock and happy for him, but he doesn't want to lose his first officer, and his friend.   But there could be a complication with spock's promotion A Commander Garret had also applied for the job. They decided she wasn't the best suited for command. She has an excellent service record. She has filed an appeal that she's been selectively overlooked because she's a woman.   The Federation was founded around the time of the Romulan war. Earth needed military allies. The Tellarites were founding member. Tellarite men are very adversarial and argumentative. And they frown on female starship captains.  (They probably wouldn't be accepted into the federation at this point in time, certainly not in 24th century, but at the time of the Romulan war, Earth REALLY needed military allies, and the Tellarites were that. Plus they were one of the major races that Earth helped to broker peace with before the Federation was founded.) The Federation isn't technically bound by this but after the admission of Corridan (a continuity nod to Journey To Babel), the Tellarites are threatening to pull their seat from the council.   Kirk says Starfleet has always had female captains (see Enterprise). Laura is an example, but she commands a starbase, not a constitution class ship There is no rule officially. Kirk and Spock are both of the opinion that Garrett deserves the ship and should be given command.   But upon further reflection, Spock starts to consider that Starfleet may have been correct in their assessment of Commander Garrett. Maybe Spock IS the best person for the job. He says his opinion is not based on her gender.   Kirk says something interesting. He says “maybe it should be.”   Starfleet has never given a woman command of a constitution class starship. He's always thought that was just how the cards fell, but perhaps there is a greater good to be considered.   Spock says that if they were to actively and deliberately choose a female officer, Commodore Gray would be the better option, but she doesn't want the job.   And this is an issue which has certainly had relevance of the last century, even today.   When you have an imbalance like this, the way I see it, there are two ways you can address it. The first is to simply remove the bias, and then proceed, hiring based solely on qualifications and suitability. If you have an equal number of candidates from each group, then theoretically, over time, the imbalance will go away, and you should have a roughly even split, though there could be many other factors that would make it not so simple. And in a sense, this seems like the fairest way. Just treat everyone on their merits. The problem with this approach is that it's slow. It could take a long time for that imbalance to be corrected.   The other option, which is what Kirk seems to be proposing, is that you actively seek to correct it, by deliberately hiring from the minority group. In this case, females. You steer the ship the other way to correct it. This will set things right much quicker, but it has its own problem. It means that well-deserving people in the majority group will start to miss out. If you're a male candidate, and would make a great captain, your career is basically on hold. You'll miss out on a job you're qualified for because of your gender. Which, ironically, is the exact problem you're trying to solve. It's just that it's happening to people on the other side now. There are no perfect solutions. I'm sure people much smarter than me have been trying to solve this.   Now Spock is willing to forgoe his own opportunity in favour of Garett, maybe partly because as a Vulcan he has less ambition for personal advancement, but mostly because I think he beleives that is what is right. Spock is a good person.   So now that the desire and intention is there to hire Garret because she is part of that minority group, (and I mean minority in the sense of Starship captains, not in the sense of the population) there is one last thing to consider. Is she actually right for the job based on her merits?   Kirk is firmly on team Garrett right now. But he's been ordered to interview her and form his own conclusions. Spock points out that perhaps Kirk's opinion is coloured by his desire to keep his first officer and friend on the Enterprise. He admits he can't deny that is part of what he's feeling.   Garrett served on the Constitution, the original prototype that the class was named after. When Kirk mentions the loss of that ship, the death of her captain, at Nimbus III, nice little Star Trek 5 reference, Garrett clamps up and doesn't want to talk about it. Her testimony, and her personal logs are all on record. She feels she has nothing more to say, and doesn't want to discuss it face to face with Kirk, a matter he finds unusual, and perhaps a little troubling.   Kirk has filled McKenna in on what's happening. She decides to check in on Spock to see how he's doing, and he seeks her advice. It may not be prudent to provoke the Tellarites at this time. McKenna says the Tellarites rarely make good on their threats, which makes Starfleet's hesitance to give a woman command of a Starship that much more problematic. (which in a sense, I think, takes away some of the drama) She thinks Spock's issue is something else.   She had to work hard to convince people that having a counsellor on board a Starship was a necessary thing.  (which I find extraordinary) but she never felt that the reluctance was because she was female. However, if there is bias in Starfleet it needs to be addressed.   And I think that's a good word. I don't think Starfleet is being deliberately sexist, but there might be a bias, and it might not even be intentional. Spock, as someone whose appearance has often been perceived to be the most important aspect of his identity, has sometimes felt that bias as well.   McKenna says if she ever has a daughter, she would want her to know that anything is within her reach if she works hard enough. And as someone who DOES have a daughter, I feel the same way.   Spock points out that there are things in Garrett's past which require scrutiny. McKenna asks him if she'd be under the same scrutiny if she was a man. He feels she would. But one can never be certain about others' motives.   McKenna adds “but we can certainly be clear about our own.”   Gray growls at Kirk for antagonising Garrett, something he certainly didn't intend to do. In my opinion, Kirk certainly did nothing wrong. But Garrett has petitioned for an immediate decision. A hearing will be held, and Kirk will be one of those making the judgement. Probably the last thing he wanted.   While all of this is happening, Scotty has taken the Enterprise to find what is left of the USS Hood.   Star Trek regularly uses the AB Plot format. Where you have two distinct plots going through an episode. It's generally agreed that this works best if the two are linked in some way, either by plot, or theme. Although it honestly doesn't bother me when they are completely disconnected. But in this episode, the two plots are definitely connected.   When they find the Hood, there are no lifesigns. But also no evidence of an anomaly.  Something is ringing alarm bells in Scotty's head. He doesn't want to tow it back to the planet until he understands more. Chekov is going to remotely re-establish life support. Not sure exactly how that works, but it sounds handy.   He asks to go on the landing party, but Scotty says “not this time,” and then gives the conn to another officer. Chekov is feeling overlooked. Uhura points out that he's gifted but unfocussed. He has wide interests, doing a little of everything, but has no speciality. Uhura recommends choosing something he's really passionate about and focusing on that. Interestingly, I'd imagine being a jack of all trades would be a very useful trait in a command officer. Maybe that's ultimately why he ends up as first officer of the Reliant. In any case, it's really nice to see Star Trek giving Chekov some character development. Who'd have thought it.   Kirk was feeling certain in his decision to support Garrett before he met her, but now, after her evasiness about his questions, and now this push for a decision, he's not so sure.   The courtroom is very reminiscent of the original series episode Court Martial, where witness take the stand, touch a glowing metal disk, and have their service record ready by the computer. (They actually used a similar idea in TNG The Measure of a man.)   As usual, somebody always asks to forgo the reading, but Gray objects. Spock's qualifications are material to this case, which, of course, is true.   Stonn asks Spock how he'd feel if her were to be given command of the Hood, remembering that he is half human. Before he can answer, he asks if his human side played a part in his decision to turn down a role in the Vulcan science academy. Spock says they did not, which the computer picks up as a lie. Interesting.   Kirk objects to this questioning. Spock's race shouldn't have any more bearing on the decision than Garrett's gender. Stonn posits that a person's character, abilities, judgements and strengths are shaped, in part, by their heritage, beliefs, race, even gender. He says some people are uncomfortable with the idea of a female captain. I'm not totally clear on the point he's trying to make, but it seems he is in favour of Garrett.   Kirk speaks plainly. He is convinced that it is absolutely time for a woman to command a constitution class starship. But he is not convinced that Garrett is that woman. Aspects like race or gender shouldn't be the reason a candidate is denied, but perhaps it shouldn't be the reason (or at least the sole reason) they are accepted either.   Remember that officer a few episodes back who had the artificial arm? Well he's on the landing party and uses it to remove something from the Hood's engine. Another nice callback. I appreciate how Star Trek Continues is making use of semi-regular characters. DS9 was the absolute best at doing that. TOS was probably the worst, although the realities of 60s TV certainly play a part in that.   Garrett has been awarded a Tucker memorial medal of honour as well as an aenar award for meritorious service to disadvantaged cultures. Two very nice callbacks to Enterprise. We get a little insight into what happened at Nimbus III. The official investigation found evidence of human error on Garrett's part. An investigation carried out by a Tellarite. She, and others, “plead the seventh guarantee” during the proceedings. I'm not sure exactly what this means, but Garrett says it cannot be taken as an admission of culpability. There are countless other examples in her file. BLooking at Garrett, Gray sees a pattern of somebody who has reacted with hostility and side-stepping whenever her actions have been called into question. She defends this saying that Hostility is an appropriate response to undue scrutiny and discrimination.   The big question is, has that been the case? Has she been treated unfairly? Or does she have legitimate flaws that needs to be considered?   Gray can't say for certain whether Garrett has been held to a difference standard because she is female, but regardless of that, She says it is the duty of a Starship captain to admit, and learn from mistakes. But Garrett is still defiant in her belief that she was not in the wrong. And as viewers we still don't really know if she's right. If not then her behaviour here is not appropriate, but if she truly did nothing wrong, then she's right to defiantly stand by her innocence. But could she have been right in every one of the incidences in her file? Can anyone be that perfect?   Because that's what seems to be holding Gray back. Not the fact that Garrett has made some mistakes, but that she can't admit to them and learn from them. Nobody is saying a captain must be perfect. But they must be honest about themselves.   There's a massive power surge in the hood's engines. The Enterprise can't beam them back because the Hood's shields have gone up. The reactor is going critical. Scotty can't eject the core. It's looking hopeless.   We get some wonderful performances from Chris Doohan and Kim Stringer as Scotty and Uhura realise that they're going to die. Scotty places his hand on Uhura's. This could be seen as foreshadowing of the eventual relationship those two will have in the movie era, but I think it's more just a comfort thing, two colleagues, two friends, who know they're not going to make it. The look on Uhura's face is haunting.   Scotty orders the Enterprise to get as far away ass possibler, to safety.   But Chekov has an idea. Hadley chooses to trust him. It's a very risky manouvre, and it injures chekov, but it works. The landing party are beamed back to safety, The Enterprise escaping just as the Hood explosed.   Back on the planet, the hearing is back in session. Each candidate can make a motion and then the board will give their verdict. Neither Spock nor Garrett has a motion to make.   Stomm endorses Garrett. Gray endorses Spock. The deciding vote is up to Kirk. But before he can make it, they receive a transmission from the Enterprise. The Hood has been destroyed. There is no ship to command. So no promotions necessary.   Kirk has been saved from a difficult decision by the bell.   Garrett wants to make one final statement. There is an underlying issue that still remains. For decades, she believes Starfleet has overlooked officers for certain positions because they are women. They may admit it, it may not even be intentional,    Kirk asks her if she believes a person should be given special treatment because of their gender, religion or race. She feels that yes, they should, if their gender, religion or race has historically been used to deny them consideration.   Garrett now, has turned her focus from herself, specifically, to other female officers. “It may not be my time, but it most certainly is theirs.” And I think this is an important step in character growth for her.   Gray says “We are all in agreement with that. Kirk and Stomm nod.   As Spock leaves, Stomm says “Peace and long life” to him. I think that's his Vulcan way of saying, “nothing personal, Mate.” And Spock's reply of “Live long and prosper” seems to say, “Yeah, not worries. All good.” Chekov is awake and recovering in sickbay. Scotty scolds him a little. His stunt is worthy of a court-martial. Chekov is willing to take whatever consequence Scotty feels is appropriate. Then he realises that Scotty called him Lieutenant. “And thanks him for saving their lives.” And it turns out, this is the origin of the shield prefix code that Starfleet ships will have from now on. Refer to Star Trek II.   Scotty suggests a career in tactical. But they still don't know what caused the overload in the Hood's engine. That worries Scotty. I don't remember if they follow up on this or not. But it would certainly be cool if they did. It's an interesting setup.   Kirk talks to the Tellarite ambassador and learns that there is a growing movement on Tellar Prime that wants to change their policy regarding women in command.   When Kirk says goodbye to Garrett, she speculates, “who knows, maybe some day a Garrett will command an Enterprise. And if you haven't figured it out already, this is when you realise that she is likely an ancestor of Captain Rachel Garrett, of the Enterprise C. The way she says it is a little on the nose, but I like it.   This was another well-made episode of Star Trek Continues. I like how it delves into an issue that certainly has similarities and connections to the real world, but is just a little different. A little sideways. I think Star Trek, and sci-fi in general, tackles issues best when there isn't an exact one-to-one parallel to current events, but that it poses difficult questions that make you think.   Next time, we'll be looking at the episode “Still Treads the Shadow”. I don't remember what this one is about, so I'll find out when I re-watch it.   Don't forget to check out Jewel of the Stars Book 3   Until next time,  Live long and prosper. Make it so.  

Two pairs of buddies grow aggravated with each other when forced into close proximity. Join your incline-disinclined hosts as they consider friendship, frenemyship, and pants in the replicator. Spoiler warning! We dive right into a detail-rich discussion of this episode, so if you haven't had a chance to see it yet – beware! Next week: We will consult The Algorithm to determine our next topic of discussion - check out our website or social media for more info! Note that this and all episodes of the It's Got Star Trek podcast contain explicit language and, frankly, an unnecessary amount of offensive content, so the show is intended only for adults and really really cool kids. Please utilize one of the following options if you have an interest in contacting your hosts: Email us at feedback@itsgotstartrek.com Twitter us @ItsGotStarTrek Mastodon us @ItsGotStarTrek@tenforward.social Instagramaphone us @ItsGotStarTrek Facebookify us @ItsGotStarTrek Watch a static image while listening to the podcast on YouTube Telephone us at 202-456-1414 You can also visit www.itsgotstartrek.com and leave a comment or head on over to the It's Got Everything subreddit to join the discussion. Don't say we didn't give you options.

Boimler transforms into the Dabo King! Join your candle-loving hosts as they discuss Lower Decks' loving return to Deep Space Nine. Spoiler warning! We dive right into a detail-rich discussion of this episode, so if you haven't had a chance to see it yet – beware! Next week: We continue our weekly coverage of Star Trek: Lower Decks' third season with our discussion of "A Mathematically Perfect Redemption" Note that this and all episodes of the It's Got Star Trek podcast contain explicit language and, frankly, an unnecessary amount of offensive content, so the show is intended only for adults and really really cool kids. Please utilize one of the following options if you have an interest in contacting your hosts: Email us at feedback@itsgotstartrek.com Twitter us @ItsGotStarTrek Instagramaphone us @ItsGotStarTrek Facebookify us @ItsGotStarTrek Watch a static image while listening to the podcast on YouTube Telephone us at 202-456-1414 You can also visit www.itsgotstartrek.com and leave a comment or head on over to the It's Got Everything subreddit to join the discussion. Don't say we didn't give you options here!

While T'Pol and Tucker discover that they have developed a psychic bond, Captain Archer receives three Orion slave girls as a gift for negotiating with the devious Orion Syndicate – with rather disastrous results. In this episode of the podcast, Wes and Clay discuss "Bound" and why it's similar to "Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night". Plus! The guys chat about third-wave feminism, the definition of "reactionary", and myopic stories. Are you looking for older episodes? Find this and every other episode at The Pensky Podcast! Thanks for listening. Stay connected: • https://thepenskyfile.com/links/ • e-mail: thepenskyfilevideo(at)gmail.com

Dal Boket fends off his adversaries, both the Cardassian politician Eerack and Starfleet Officer Lt. Emai, while attempting to restore his reputation. Meanwhile, Cmdr. Aster and Dr. Tamura try to connect the dots, concerned of possible Obsidian Order, Orion Syndicate, or even Section 31 involvement.

Harry Mudd tangles with a terse Tellarite while Ephraim and Dot take the audience on a tour of TOS's greatest hits! Join your Jipper-loving hosts as they discuss the importance of making room for humor in Star Trek, the clever way that 'Ephraim and Dot' combines nostalgic Easter eggs with modern Trek staples, and Dan's elucidation of Mudd's 17-step process for escaping captors. Spoiler warning! We dive right into a detail-rich discussion of this episode, so if you haven't had a chance to see it yet – beware! Next week: We go where the It's Got Star Trek Podcast has never gone before - Season 2 of TNG! Spool up your streaming service, LaserDisc player, or VHS machine with Star Trek: The Next Generation's 'Time Squared' - twice the Picard for the price of one! Don't worry, our full, weekly coverage of Lower Decks Season 2 starts the following week! Note that this and all episodes of the It's Got Star Trek podcast contain explicit language and, frankly, an unnecessary amount of offensive content, so the show is intended only for adults and really really cool kids. Check out the Feedspot list of Top 60 Star Trek Podcasts for 2021. Please utilize one of the following options if you have an interest in contacting your hosts: Email us at feedback@itsgotstartrek.com Twitter us @ItsGotStarTrek Instagramaphone us @ItsGotStarTrek Facebookify us @ItsGotStarTrek Watch a static image while listening to the podcast on YouTube Telephone us at 202-456-1414 You can also visit www.itsgotstartrek.com and leave a comment or head on over to the It's Got Everything subreddit to join the discussion. Don't say we didn't give you options here!

Cmdr. Aster, Dr. Felix, and now Dal Boket lead a Starfleet/Cardassian taskforce to snuff out the remaining hideouts of the Orion Syndicate in the Gamma Quadrant. In part one, we meet our antagonist, Hexanna the Orion Baroness. But she doesn't leave a trail that's easy to follow. Will the crew of Deep Space X succeed in locating her? Tune in to find out!

Cmdr. Aster, Dr. Felix, and now Dal Boket lead a Starfleet/Cardassian taskforce to snuff out the remaining hideouts of the Orion Syndicate in the Gamma Quadrant. Having located Udaden, the last remaining Orion hideout, the crew of DSX are confronted in space combat. Will the crew be able to handle an ambush? Tune in to find out!

Chief O'Brien is undercover for Starfleet Intelligence to crack a gang of criminals working for the Orion Syndicate. Loyalties are compromised, though, when the Chief forms a strong bond with one of the gang and he starts questioning who has the moral high ground. Mission Log finds Honor Among Thieves. Sponsored by Sponsored by

Chief O'Brien is undercover for Starfleet Intelligence to crack a gang of criminals working for the Orion Syndicate. Loyalties are compromised, though, when the Chief forms a strong bond with one of the gang and he starts questioning who has the moral high ground. Mission Log finds Honor Among Thieves. Sponsored by Sponsored by

Chief O'Brien is undercover for Starfleet Intelligence to crack a gang of criminals working for the Orion Syndicate. Loyalties are compromised, though, when the Chief forms a strong bond with one of the gang and he starts questioning who has the moral high ground. Mission Log finds Honor Among Thieves. Sponsored by Sponsored by

The Reliant faces dangers and threats as the 2nd Exploration Fleet comes face to face with three known threats from the Orion Syndicate plotting  and smoothing the ways for Klingon subjugation of the populace of Lapadas. A klingon war fleet is approaching but there's not much in the way of battle capability for a fleet desgned for exploration although the Reliant does have something up its proverbial sleeves as the battle commences.

Captain Archer brings home some troublesome souvenirs. Join your uncomfortable hosts as they discuss the bizarre nature of mid-2000's Hollywood perspectives on "feminism," the lasting influence of this episode on Orion culture in contemporary Star Trek, and the obnoxious, if justified, insecurity of Commander Kelby. Spoiler warning! We dive right into a detail-rich discussion of this episode, so if you haven't had a chance to see it yet – beware! Next week: The inimitable Q returns to the Enterprise claiming to have lost his powers in 'Deja Q' - the 13th episode of the 3rd season of Star Trek: The Next Generation! Note that this and all episodes of the It's Got Star Trek podcast contain explicit language and, frankly, an unnecessary amount of offensive content, so the show is intended only for adults and really really cool kids. Check out the Feedspot list of Top 60 Star Trek Podcasts for 2021. Please utilize one of the following options if you have an interest in contacting your hosts: Email us at feedback@itsgotstartrek.com Twitter us @ItsGotStarTrek Instagramaphone us @ItsGotStarTrek Facebookify us @ItsGotStarTrek Watch a static image while listening to the podcast on YouTube Telephone us at 202-456-1414 You can also visit www.itsgotstartrek.com and leave a comment or head on over to the It's Got Everything subreddit to join the discussion. Don't say we didn't give you options here!

Keeop, the Orion Syndicate baroness apprehended in "Victoria et Mors, Part II," shares information about a possible Breen collaborator: Naf, a Ferengi Syndicate member. She is suspected of targeting the civilian families of fellow criminals. With the aid of the USS Burbank, Aster, Tamura, and Boket prepare for the worst.

In the latest episode of Star Trek Discovery, Michael Burnham must choose between loyalty to Starfleet, and her captain, and helping a friend. Cleaveland Booker has located a black box that could provide vital information into the source of the burn, but he has been captured. This was a solid action episode with some nice connections to the larger arc, in both plot and character. ----more---- Transcript Welcome to Nerd Heaven I’m Adam David Collings, the author of Jewel of The Stars. And I am a Nerd   This is episode 43 of the podcast. Today, we’re talking about Star Trek Discovery “Scavengers”   The description on Memory Alpha reads After receiving a message from Book, Burnham and Georgiou embark on a rogue mission to find him, leaving Saru to pick up the pieces with Admiral Vance. Meanwhile, Stamets forms an unexpected bond with Adira.   This episode was written by Anne Cofell Saunders It was directed by Douglas Aarniokoski And it first aired on the 19th of November 2020.   Make it so.   We begin the episode with a zooming out shot of the USS Discovery, which has undergone an extensive refit to bring it in line with 32nd-century technology.  As we pull back, we see the name and registry have been repainted. NCC 1031-A. Okay. That’s kind of a big deal. So this is now the Discovery A. But is that valid? The letter is added to the registry when a brand new ship is constructed and given the name of an iconic ship. But this isn’t a new ship. It’s a refit to the same ship. It’s a very extensive refit, but then, so was the refit to Kirk’s original Enterprise in Star Trek The Motion Picture. But that ship was not the Enterprise A. It was just the Enterprise. The Enterprise A was a brand-new ship that first appeared at the end of Star Trek IV after the original was destroyed in Star Trek III.   So...technically, this shouldn’t be the Discovery A. However, it could be argued that this refit is even more extensive than the one from The Motion Picture. And maybe the rules for registry numbers have changed over the centuries. So … I think we can just accept it. I’ll admit that I do get a bit of a kick out of the A.   This refit has taken 3 weeks. They’ve installed programmable matter, which makes a lot of sense. They’ve also detached the nacelles. Saru says this is to make the engines more efficient and the ship more maneuverable.   The nacelles are floating next to the ship. I’ll admit, this whole detached nacelles thing is a bit weird to me. My first reaction is, that’s silly and doesn’t make any sense. My second reaction is, 930 years have passed. We SHOULD be seeing things that are so wacky and out there that they seem to make no sense. That’s actually logical. So the more unbelievable it is, the more believable it is. I assume the nacelles are kept close to the ship by some kind of tractor beam or gravity field. How does the power get to them? Wireless power, I suppose. That’s already kind of a thing.   So ultimately, I approve, even though I think it’s weird.   In the briefing meeting, Saru gets some insight into the kinds of missions that Starfleet is now carrying out.   Helping with food shortages.  Delivery supplies. Helping planets that are facing solar flares.It’s all very humanitarian aid, and the distances can cause significant difficulties.   Saru immediately sees where Discovery could help. The spore drive would save a lot of time in helping these people. I like how Vance agrees that he could use ten Discoveries, but since he only has one, he needs them to stay close, ready to serve as a rapid response unit.   When Vance says “Rapid Responder” one of the other captains acts like Vance has sprouted a second head. His reaction seems to be way overdone. I kinda get the feeling that maybe this guy was the previous rapid responder. Maybe he’s feeling outed.    But Vance tells them all about the spore drive. It’s classified information that is not to leave the briefing room.   We’ve never really seen a scene like this, with a bunch of captains getting their assignments from the admiralty. It probably happened a lot during the dominion war.   It’s nice to see that all the captains are wearing a similar uniform to the admiral, but with different rank insignias. It’s good. I really like this uniform. It’s my favourite of all the new uniforms.   Argeth is on Yellow. Alert. The Emerald chain, the Andorian and Orion Syndicate, might be making a move sometime in the next 12 hours. Nobody knows  what they want on Argeth, but Vance is determined to make sure they don’t get it. When things come to a head, that’s when Saru needs to jump in and save the day.   So the crew of Discovery are receiving their new com badges. Just like the ones all the other Starfleet officers wear. But for some reason, they don’t exchange their uniforms for the new ones. That seems a little odd.   Anyway, there are practical reasons for adopting the new badges. In the 24th century, Starfleet made the badges communicators, rather than just decorative. By the 32nd Century, they’re so much more. They’re also tricorders, holo padds, as well as communicators, and personal transporters. This is all a very logical evolution of the technology. I like it a lot. They kept the user interfaces on the new consoles similar, so it would be easy for the crew to adjust. But at the same time, it’s adaptive, programmed to analyse the way people work, and conform to whatever would be most useful for them. It’s all very clever.   The crew seem to really like it.   There’s an ongoing joke about Linus beaming into random parts of the ship because he doesn’t know how to set the coordinates properly on his personal transporter. It’s amusing, if a little overdone.   And then they’re hailed by Grudge the Cat, who has decided to pay them a visit. I love how she’s just staring at the screen purring.   Michael has been looking for the black boxes of ships destroyed during the burn, to get information about what caused the phenomenon.   Book was on his way to the Bajoran exchange (another DS9 reference) But he heard about a black box on Hanhau, which is Emerald Chain territory. He programmed the ship to bring Grudge here to Starfleet headquarters if he didn’t return after 24 hours. Seems like he’s in trouble.   So technically, Grudge didn’t fly the ship. Pity.   Naturally, Michael wants to go rescue him. Not just because the black box could be invaluable, but also because she cares very much about Book. The black boxes record the time of detonation, and they don’t all match. This suggests it didn’t all happen at once. It had a point of origin that swept outwards. With a third black box, they could triangulate that point of origin. This is valuable information.   Saru understands how important this is to Michael, but he can’t authorise this mission. They need to be ready to jump to Argeth at a moment’s notice. Admiral’s orders.   He’s seen how vulnerable the federation is. How important these humanitarian missions are. Of course, his big mistake here is not taking this to the Admiral. He’ll learn this lesson at the end of the episode. But instead, he flatly forbids Michael from doing anything about Book or the black box.   We all know where this is heading. We know what Michael is going to do. She’s always had this rebellious streak that leads her to take matters into her own hands. And while she’d made some progress keeping that side of herself in check, the last year of working on her own as a free spirit, outside any chain of command, has only made things worse.   She can’t let this go. So she goes to Georgiou. The only other person on this ship who doesn’t care about chain of command. Gorgeous is always up for an unsanctioned mission.   But she makes a very astute point. Michael is gonna cause a lot of problems for Saru by doing this. He’s trying to win Vance’s trust and prove the legitimacy of Discovery’s dedication to Starfleet. If Michael goes ahead with this, it will definitely hurt that.   But that’s not enough to dissuade Michael.   Her dilemma feels very real here. She has two very strong motivations. A man she clearly loves, whether that love is romantic or not, and critical information to solving the mystery of the burnt. But it’s not just about the mystery to her. She genuinely believes the Federation will never get itself together until they learn the truth.   What do you think about that? I think I need a little more convincing. I agree it’s very important for them to find answers. If they know how and why it happened, they’re better able to determine if it’ll happen again and prevent it.   But I’m not convinced that the Federation can never again rebuild and stand proud without that information.   Book has actually made a pretty big sacrifice here for Michael. He’s put aside his own work to try to recover this black box - a very dangerous mission - because he knows it is important to her.    In a sense, they are both being very self-sacrificial here. Book put himself in danger for her, and she is risking her entire career for him. And that’s basically what love is. Self-sacrifice. The definition of love is putting the needs of another person ahead of your own needs.   Book’s ship continues to slowly grow on me. The asymmetry still bugs me, but I’m starting to understand the design. The bridge on the side kinda gives me millennium falcon vibes, but way more futuristic. I really like the shot that starts as a purely CGI exterior of the ship flying at warp, and then zooms in on the bridge. We spend a reasonable amount of time looking through that window watching Michael and Georgiou walking around and talking. It’s very effective and adds some real believability to the ship as an environment.   Georgiou can tell there is romantic tension between Michael and Book. She’s quite amused by it. But I love when Michael tells her she isn’t qualified to judge on matters of the heart, since her emotional spectrum ranges from cranky to homicidal. Which it definitely does. But in some twisted way, Georgiou does feel some form of love. She loves Michael like a daughter. A replacement for the one who betrayed her.   And that’s when Georgiou has the first of her episodes. It’s not exactly a seizure, it seems more emotional than physical. But she’s suddenly overwhelmed by what I assume are memories. She sees her hand covered in blood, and cries over someone called San. I wonder who that is.   Something weird has been going on with Georgiou ever since she was interrogated by that bloke with glasses. I am really curious what he’s done to her. Michael has noticed something is not right.   Hanhau is a private salvage yard. Not open to new customers. The general public are expected to do their business at the local Bajoran exchange. But Georgiou talks them into letting her land with promises of large quantities of dilithium.   I think we’re getting some information in this episode to help us get some idea of where the new Starfleet headquarters are situated in the galaxy.   Federation space is primarily in the alpha quadrant. Their early adversaries, the Klingons and the Romulans are primarily in the beta quadrant. The core of federations worlds are near the border between the quadrants. Worlds like Bajor and Cardassia are much deeper into the alpha quadrant, a long way from the border with the beta.   Michael indicated she could get to Hanhou, complete the mission, and be back, at warp speed, within 12 hours.   Hanhau is close to a Bajoran Exchange. I’m not sure exactly what that is, but it’s clear near Bajor.   So I think we can say that Starfleet headquarters is pretty deep into the alpha quadrant. Near the outer parts of what was considered Federation space back in the 24th century. And then the scene we’ve all been waiting for. Tilly meets Grudge. Apparently, she’s not a cat person, but, I’ll admit, she’s doing pretty well. It’s a cute scene. I genuinely laughed when Tilly asks Grudge if he ate Michael. Admit the cuteness and humour of this scene, Tilly learns that Michael has stolen Book’s ship and left on the mission.   The wide shot of Hanhau as they descend on the settlement looks awesome.   Tolor, the Orion they’re dealing with is the nephew of Osyra, leader of the Emerald Chain. There’s a lot of slave labour on this world. I guess the Orions are back to their old tricks. But it’s not slaves as a commodity to sell. These people are working because they owe Osyraa. Naturally, Georgiou wants to meet her, as she sounds like her kind of girl. Seriously, how long do you think it will be before Georgiou goes full rogue and tries to take over the galaxy for herself? The only thing that’s holding her back from doing that, at this point, is Michael. Well, that and the weird seizures. I suspect that’s part of some plan to disarm the danger that she represents to the galaxy.   It’s time for our next DS9 reference. Self-sealing stem bolts from the 24th century. And we’ll meet an actual Bajoran shortly. It’s almost as if Alex Kurtzman had a listening device in my office, when I’ve been talking about how I want more love for DS9. I guess I’m not the only person who has felt that way.   Georgiou says she wants items from before 2400, which was the end of the 24th century. And the guy holds up an old TNG phase. Nice. but apparently, it contains parts for a later time. I wonder if the writers actually meant pre-2300, which would be the 23rd century. So was this all just part of the act, to give Michael time to find Book? Or is she genuinely interested in old technology? I can’t see Georgiou being nostalgic, especially for stuff that’s not even from her native universe.   Michael has re-jigged Book’s cat-finder to locate him. And he’s close.   He’s a slave working here. And this is where we meet Lai, the Bajoran. And I’m thrilled to say his makeup effect looks just like it did on Deep Space Nine. I guess it’s kind of hard to mess up a Bajoran nose. Notice he’s not wearing an earring. So either it’s forbidden for slaves to adorn themselves, or he doesn’t believe in the prophets. We also meet Ryn, an Andorian slave who is responsible for implanting all the newcomers. Seems most of the slaves view him as a traitor. But Book is kind to him. When Lai tries to steal a water ration, Tolor makes an example of him. From a writing perspective, it's useful because it demonstrates how difficult it is for people to escape this prison.   So Adira is back on the ship, after having some kind of medical examination last episode. She seems a bit workaholic. Doesn’t want to explore the ship. Gray wants to see more of Discovery, but he can only go where Admira goes. And she’s not interested.   Stamets is annoyed that his spore lab has been messed with. Things are not where they used to be. But he’s quite impressed when he learns that Adira has upgraded the interface, so he doesn’t have to have metal plugs in his arm anymore.   Michael finally makes contact with Book. And he says what people always say in this situation. “You weren’t supposed to come and rescue me.” And then she says what the rescuer always says. “I had to.” They’ve got 40 minutes to rescue him and get the black box, before he is sent up to work on a ship above for a week. He’ll be harder to rescue from there.   This is where we learn more about Ryn. He was born into the Emerald Chain, but tried to rally people against the organisation. They were starting to listen so Osyraa cut off his antennae and made him the guy who implants the slaves.   Now, this is interesting. We know from Enterprise that Andorian antennae grow back. So maybe she did something to prevent that, like cauterising the stumps or something. I dunno. This is why he’s a pariah to everyone.   Saru has a quiet word with Tilly about Michael. Tilly knows even less than Saru. Saru is feeling pretty distrustful of Michael now. As much as he did when they were back on the Shenzhou. Which is kinda sad, given how close they seemed to have become last season.   This is really interesting because Tilly acts in a way other than what we might expect. Certainly not how Saru expected. But it makes sense. She makes a good point. She pushes for Saru to tell the Admiral. It’s a delicate time for the Discovery crew at the moment. Things will look bad if the Admiral finds out from someone other than Saru. Tilly loves Michael like a sister but she also cares for this crew.   Tilly is trying to be understanding of Michael’s motives, but Saru believes Tilly would never have done this, had she been in Michael’s situation.   It’s time for the jailbreak. Ryn is in on it too. He’s retrieved the black box for Book.   Saru is explaining Michael’s disobedience to Vance, but promises, they are still ready to carry out their mission, even without their first officer. He overhears a line about a ship returning and undergoing a baryon sweep. This is a process that the Enterprise D once underwent. It’s meant to eliminate Baryon particles from the starship’s hull. Let’s hope this ship doesn’t get taken over by terrorists like the Enterprise did.   Vance tells him that diplomacy is failing. Discovery will need to jump soon.   The prison riot is on. But the perimeter fence is still up. Michael and Georgiou have to take it down, but they have their hands full with Tolor and his thugs. It’s all standard action scenes, which Discovery does pretty well.   I was listening to a writing podcast the other day. In it, one of the presenters said “if your character has seizures, you’d better make sure they have one in the middle of the climactic battle.” It was The Six Figure Author podcast, if you’re interested.   Anyway, this is exactly what happens here. Georgiou is about to shoot Tolor when she has another episode.and drops the gun.   Fortunately, she comes to just in time to bring the fence down, as Tolor beams away.   The slaves all escape, but Ryn is shot with one of those cool ring phasers. I thought, at this stage, that Ryn was a gonner. But Book isn’t willing to give up on him.   And then Book’s ship turns into a transformer! Seriously, it breaks into a bunch of separate parts and reconfigures itself. Except the new configuration doesn’t seem to look any different to my eyes. I’m not sure what the point of this reconfiguration was, but it was visually pretty cool. Another example of those “seems silly, but believably silly given the century” things. I imagine the same technology that lets the nacelles hover next to the ship is also responsible for this transformation.   I’d like to understand a lot more about what the transformation actually means, and why it happens.   Book beams aboard with Ryn. Georgiou takes out Tolor’s ships. One of them looks like an old Miranda class. The crashing scene looks awesome. Comparable to anything you’d see in a big-screen movie these days.   Michael is more freaked out that Georgiou doesn’t know what’s up with her episodes than she is about the episodes themselves. From Georgiou’s point of view, until she understands, there’s no point revealing her weakness, because she doesn’t know what help to ask for. This is a reasonable attitude for a Terran from the mirror universe. Over there, she’d be killed for showing any kind of weakness.   Stamets sits down with Adira in the mess hall. He’s noticed her talking to herself. She decides to open up and explain the whole situation with Gray. Adira speculates that this has happened because they were so close, and the symbiont passed from one to the other. I’m betting there’s more to it than that. But it’s a reasonable theory.   They get Ryn back to the ship, and Doctor Pollards says he's going to make it. Which is nice. Poor guy deserves a break. Michael has to go face the firing squad, but on the way, she has a little moment with Book. And they finally kiss.  I get the impression this is their first kiss. That they were both honest about not having been romantically involved during the past year.   Stamets sees a lot of himself in Adira. Somebody who lost a person they loved, but then, got them back in some form.  Stamets says he believes Adira. And I want to believe him. But part of me wonders if he still thinks of this as a bit more metaphorical than literal. Is this just part of her grieving process, like he went through with Hugh, or is she literally carrying Gray’s soul around with her? Either way, Stamets is willing to take it at face value and definitely not ridicule.   As he and Hugh get ready for bed they talk about Adira. Stamets is starting to think that he can be a help to her. Something of a mentor. It’s not a role he ever thought he’d find himself in.   It’s time for Saru and Micahel to face the Admiral. He points out that Saru was right to follow orders but he also needs to trust his judgement. He should have brought this opportunity to Vance, who might have considered the intel worth the risk. He may have actually authorised the mission. They’ll never know now.   I really like this because they’re not turning Vance into the stereotypical bad admiral. He’s a reasonable guy, even though there’s a lot of antagonism between him and Michael because of their differing opinions.   I love that this is a learning opportunity for Saru as well. He’s a good captain, but he’s an inexperienced captain.   Vance doesn’t think Burnham deserves special consideration for saving the galaxy by going through that wormhole. She was doing her duty. She starts each new assignment at zero along with everyone else. In the end, Discovery didn’t have to jump. I’m guessing the happenings on Hanhau stole away Osyraa’s focus. Michael saved lives on that planet, which is the only reason she’s not in the brig. Vance leaves her punishment in Saru’s hands.   So he does what he doesn’t want to do, but honestly, the only thing he can do. He relieves her of her role as first officer. She will be restricted to chief science officer duties. Even Michael agrees this is right.   It’s all about trust, and right now, he can’t trust her to the extent that a captain should trust their number one.   I’m starting to think that Michael will never really fit in with Starfleet. She’ll always be the rebel that just can’t manage to follow orders. It makes me wonder how long she’ll hang around Discovery. I guess she has to stay associated with them for as long as the show runs, since it’s called Discovery, and she’s the lead.   So now I’m wondering who the new number one will be. I hope they address this next week and not just ignore it.   It was nice to see Book again. This was a solid episode. Nothing mind-blowing, but a good fun action story, with some good character connections to the larger whole. I enjoyed it. Next week, we have the episode Unification III. I’m really curious about this. One of the most iconic two-part stories from Star Trek The Next Generation was Unification I and Unification II. The story was based around Spock’s attempts to re-unify the Romulan and Vulcan people. How will this episode tie into that? There’s gotta be some connection. The name is too much of a coincidence to be .. well .. a coincidence. So I’m really looking forward to finding out what the deal is.   One of my favourite authors, Brandon Sanderson, has just released the 4th book in his Stormlight Archive series. The minute it happened, I sent a link to my wife, so she can buy it for me for Christmas. I’m looking forward to reading it. I might do a couple of podcasts episodes about the book next year, kinda like what I do with my Lord of The Rings series, which I haven’t forgotten about. I haven’t been walking as much as I should, so I’ve gotten a little behind with the whole Walk to Mordor Challenge that it’s all based around. Anyway, nothing is set in stone. But we’ll see.   Don’t forget, you can get the first book in my Jewel of The Stars series for just 99 cents on all major eBook retailers, or you can read it for free on Wattpad.   Have a great week, and I’ll see you for Unification III next time. Live long and prosper. Make it so.  

Star Trek: Lower Decks – Season 1 Episode 9 – Crisis Point We’re back with the ninth and penultimate episode of Season 1 of Star Trek: Lower Decks, titled Crisis Point. This episode was written by story editor Ben Rodgers and directed by Bob Suarez, who also directed S1E3 Temporal Edict and S1E6 Terminal Provocations. Joining us this week is a special guest, LT from NC! Mariner again taking charge when she shouldn’t… The cold open starts with a scene where we see Mariner violating the Prime Directive. She takes charge but avoids rules she shouldn’t. It really sets up the end of this episode. However, Freeman offers a compromise that effectively ends the reptiles (Selay?) overthrowing the rats (Anticans?) by offering food replicators. I did get a laugh out of the lizards wanting to bask, and how they taste delicious. Boimler’s simulation taken over… Boimler goes out of his way to kiss butt. LT made a really good observation during the podcast on how Boimler seems to be able to handle interactions with the other ensigns but clams up whenever someone has a higher rank. Boimler, as usual, tries to come up with the perfect answer for Freeman by studying how she reacts to answers, instead of doing what he should be doing, and answer for himself. Mariner really IS messed up… Of course, when Mariner discovers this is a “perfect” simulation, she re-programs it to become a movie, with her as the villain. This movie turned out to be better therapy than the food metaphors spouted from Dr. Migleemo. She ends up facing off with herself. This was both interesting and shows how messed up she is. I hope that she worked out things like it seemed she did. She really is the only one that casts herself as the villain. She really is capable of being an exemplary officer if she applies herself and stops taking short cuts. The budding Rutherford/Billups bromance… The Rutherford/Billups scenes were funny. There was a budding bromance, reminiscent of Laforge and Data, or O’Brien and Bashir, but unrequited at this point. I think they could have explored that a bit more in real life. Tendi explains why she’s not part of the Orion Syndicate… Some Orions haven’t been thieves for over five years! So I guess Orion is not part of the Federation, but some have left to join Starfleet. Mariner did program her to be the stereotypical Orion, something she didn’t appreciate, but she appreciated Mariner getting into this movie even less. So now he knows… I thought it was funny when Boimler ran out of the Captain’s Ready Room screaming like a ninny, as Freeman says he came in unprepared. In actuality, he clammed up after discovering the big secret about Mariner, that she is Captain Freeman’s daughter. What he does with that secret is anyone’s guess. It seems like we’ll know in a few days. Best episode so far! We all agreed that Crisis Point was the best episode of the season. It did go heavy on the references again, almost exclusively from the movies, but they were appropriate both to the story and the situation. This season really seems ready to end on a high note. Will they stick the landing? Tune in next week! Chapters 00:00:00 STLDP 009 – Crisis Point (S1E9)00:00:21 Intro00:02:26 Feedback for Previous Episodes00:07:22 About Crisis Point00:08:39 Ratings00:11:29 Yeses00:28:55 Nos00:33:37 Not Good Enoughs00:35:05 Listener Feedback00:46:25 Spot the References00:53:05 Our Notes01:10:52 Shipwide Announcements01:20:11 Wrap Up We should be back to a regular schedule so the deadline for feedback will be on Fridays going forward… We did not extend the deadline this week! For our next episode, we’ll be discussing the Season 1 Episode 10 of Star Trek: Lower Decks, titled No Small Parts. The deadline will be 7 PM Eastern/6 PM Central on Friday, October 9, 2020, unless announced on the Facebook group otherwise. Your feedback is SO important to us!!! And don’t forget to sign up for our Patreon to get access to our Patreon episodes. Links to us… Want to participate? Join our Facebook group! And follow us on Twitter! And don’t forget to subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts! While you do, we’d appreciate it if you can leave us a review, hopefully, a 5-star! Or, if not, a rating will do!!! You can do the same on Podchaser. Also, you can leave us a review on the Talk Through Media Facebook page. Sign up to CBS All Access! Help support the podcast! If you sign up from this link, you’ll help support the podcast, as CBS gives us a small referral fee, and it costs you nothing! Star Trek: Discovery is now streaming on CBS All Access! Click this banner to sign up, and you’ll help support the podcast! Speaking of our Patreon… We have released our eighth Patreon call Sunday, September 27th, where we talked Lower Decks, the upcoming Season 3 of Discovery, and quite a lot about Deep Space Nine. If you want to listen to it when it comes out, sign up to our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/brianandruthie for as little as $1/month and you’ll get access! Become a Patron! Watch this episode on YouTube!

Star Trek: Lower Decks – Season 1 Episode 9 – Crisis Point We’re back with the ninth and penultimate episode of Season 1 of Star Trek: Lower Decks, titled Crisis Point. This episode was written by story editor Ben Rodgers and directed by Bob Suarez, who also directed S1E3 Temporal Edict and S1E6 Terminal Provocations. Joining us this week is a special guest, LT from NC! Mariner again taking charge when she shouldn’t… The cold open starts with a scene where we see Mariner violating the Prime Directive. She takes charge but avoids rules she shouldn’t. It really sets up the end of this episode. However, Freeman offers a compromise that effectively ends the reptiles (Selay?) overthrowing the rats (Anticans?) by offering food replicators. I did get a laugh out of the lizards wanting to bask, and how they taste delicious. Boimler’s simulation taken over… Boimler goes out of his way to kiss butt. LT made a really good observation during the podcast on how Boimler seems to be able to handle interactions with the other ensigns but clams up whenever someone has a higher rank. Boimler, as usual, tries to come up with the perfect answer for Freeman by studying how she reacts to answers, instead of doing what he should be doing, and answer for himself. Mariner really IS messed up… Of course, when Mariner discovers this is a “perfect” simulation, she re-programs it to become a movie, with her as the villain. This movie turned out to be better therapy than the food metaphors spouted from Dr. Migleemo. She ends up facing off with herself. This was both interesting and shows how messed up she is. I hope that she worked out things like it seemed she did. She really is the only one that casts herself as the villain. She really is capable of being an exemplary officer if she applies herself and stops taking short cuts. The budding Rutherford/Billups bromance… The Rutherford/Billups scenes were funny. There was a budding bromance, reminiscent of Laforge and Data, or O’Brien and Bashir, but unrequited at this point. I think they could have explored that a bit more in real life. Tendi explains why she’s not part of the Orion Syndicate… Some Orions haven’t been thieves for over five years! So I guess Orion is not part of the Federation, but some have left to join Starfleet. Mariner did program her to be the stereotypical Orion, something she didn’t appreciate, but she appreciated Mariner getting into this movie even less. So now he knows… I thought it was funny when Boimler ran out of the Captain’s Ready Room screaming like a ninny, as Freeman says he came in unprepared. In actuality, he clammed up after discovering the big secret about Mariner, that she is Captain Freeman’s daughter. What he does with that secret is anyone’s guess. It seems like we’ll know in a few days. Best episode so far! We all agreed that Crisis Point was the best episode of the season. It did go heavy on the references again, almost exclusively from the movies, but they were appropriate both to the story and the situation. This season really seems ready to end on a high note. Will they stick the landing? Tune in next week! Chapters 00:00:00 STLDP 009 – Crisis Point (S1E9)00:00:21 Intro00:02:26 Feedback for Previous Episodes00:07:22 About Crisis Point00:08:39 Ratings00:11:29 Yeses00:28:55 Nos00:33:37 Not Good Enoughs00:35:05 Listener Feedback00:46:25 Spot the References00:53:05 Our Notes01:10:52 Shipwide Announcements01:20:11 Wrap Up We should be back to a regular schedule so the deadline for feedback will be on Fridays going forward… We did not extend the deadline this week! For our next episode, we’ll be discussing the Season 1 Episode 10 of Star Trek: Lower Decks, titled No Small Parts. The deadline will be 7 PM Eastern/6 PM Central on Friday, October 9, 2020, unless announced on the Facebook group otherwise. Your feedback is SO important to us!!! And don’t forget to sign up for our Patreon to get access to our Patreon episodes. Links to us… Want to participate? Join our Facebook group! And follow us on Twitter! And don’t forget to subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts! While you do, we’d appreciate it if you can leave us a review, hopefully, a 5-star! Or, if not, a rating will do!!! You can do the same on Podchaser. Also, you can leave us a review on the Talk Through Media Facebook page. Sign up to CBS All Access! Help support the podcast! If you sign up from this link, you’ll help support the podcast, as CBS gives us a small referral fee, and it costs you nothing! Star Trek: Discovery is now streaming on CBS All Access! Click this banner to sign up, and you’ll help support the podcast! Speaking of our Patreon… We have released our eighth Patreon call Sunday, September 27th, where we talked Lower Decks, the upcoming Season 3 of Discovery, and quite a lot about Deep Space Nine. If you want to listen to it when it comes out, sign up to our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/brianandruthie for as little as $1/month and you’ll get access! Become a Patron! Watch this episode on YouTube!

Star Trek: Lower Decks – Season 1 Episode 9 – Crisis Point We’re back with the ninth and penultimate episode of Season 1 of Star Trek: Lower Decks, titled Crisis Point. This episode was written by story editor Ben Rodgers and directed by Bob Suarez, who also directed S1E3 Temporal Edict and S1E6 Terminal Provocations. Joining us this week is a special guest, LT from NC! Mariner again taking charge when she shouldn’t… The cold open starts with a scene where we see Mariner violating the Prime Directive. She takes charge but avoids rules she shouldn’t. It really sets up the end of this episode. However, Freeman offers a compromise that effectively ends the reptiles (Selay?) overthrowing the rats (Anticans?) by offering food replicators. I did get a laugh out of the lizards wanting to bask, and how they taste delicious. Boimler’s simulation taken over… Boimler goes out of his way to kiss butt. LT made a really good observation during the podcast on how Boimler seems to be able to handle interactions with the other ensigns but clams up whenever someone has a higher rank. Boimler, as usual, tries to come up with the perfect answer for Freeman by studying how she reacts to answers, instead of doing what he should be doing, and answer for himself. Mariner really IS messed up… Of course, when Mariner discovers this is a “perfect” simulation, she re-programs it to become a movie, with her as the villain. This movie turned out to be better therapy than the food metaphors spouted from Dr. Migleemo. She ends up facing off with herself. This was both interesting and shows how messed up she is. I hope that she worked out things like it seemed she did. She really is the only one that casts herself as the villain. She really is capable of being an exemplary officer if she applies herself and stops taking short cuts. The budding Rutherford/Billups bromance… The Rutherford/Billups scenes were funny. There was a budding bromance, reminiscent of Laforge and Data, or O’Brien and Bashir, but unrequited at this point. I think they could have explored that a bit more in real life. Tendi explains why she’s not part of the Orion Syndicate… Some Orions haven’t been thieves for over five years! So I guess Orion is not part of the Federation, but some have left to join Starfleet. Mariner did program her to be the stereotypical Orion, something she didn’t appreciate, but she appreciated Mariner getting into this movie even less. So now he knows… I thought it was funny when Boimler ran out of the Captain’s Ready Room screaming like a ninny, as Freeman says he came in unprepared. In actuality, he clammed up after discovering the big secret about Mariner, that she is Captain Freeman’s daughter. What he does with that secret is anyone’s guess. It seems like we’ll know in a few days. Best episode so far! We all agreed that Crisis Point was the best episode of the season. It did go heavy on the references again, almost exclusively from the movies, but they were appropriate both to the story and the situation. This season really seems ready to end on a high note. Will they stick the landing? Tune in next week! Chapters 00:00:00 STLDP 009 – Crisis Point (S1E9)00:00:21 Intro00:02:26 Feedback for Previous Episodes00:07:22 About Crisis Point00:08:39 Ratings00:11:29 Yeses00:28:55 Nos00:33:37 Not Good Enoughs00:35:05 Listener Feedback00:46:25 Spot the References00:53:05 Our Notes01:10:52 Shipwide Announcements01:20:11 Wrap Up We should be back to a regular schedule so the deadline for feedback will be on Fridays going forward… We did not extend the deadline this week! For our next episode, we’ll be discussing the Season 1 Episode 10 of Star Trek: Lower Decks, titled No Small Parts. The deadline will be 7 PM Eastern/6 PM Central on Friday, October 9, 2020, unless announced on the Facebook group otherwise. Your feedback is SO important to us!!! And don’t forget to sign up for our Patreon to get access to our Patreon episodes. Links to us… Want to participate? Join our Facebook group! And follow us on Twitter! And don’t forget to subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts! While you do, we’d appreciate it if you can leave us a review, hopefully, a 5-star! Or, if not, a rating will do!!! You can do the same on Podchaser. Also, you can leave us a review on the Talk Through Media Facebook page. Sign up to CBS All Access! Help support the podcast! If you sign up from this link, you’ll help support the podcast, as CBS gives us a small referral fee, and it costs you nothing! Star Trek: Lower Decks is now streaming on CBS All Access! Click this banner to sign up, and you’ll help support the podcast! Speaking of our Patreon… We have released our eighth Patreon call Sunday, September 27th, where we talked Lower Decks, the upcoming Season 3 of Discovery, and quite a lot about Deep Space Nine. If you want to listen to it when it comes out, sign up to our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/brianandruthie for as little as $1/month and you’ll get access! Become a Patron! Watch this episode on YouTube!

We take a look at the fan favorite episode The Next Phase. Spoiler alert, it doesn't got well for anyone if your name isn't Ro Laren Reach us at our email orionsyndicatedpodcast@gmail.com or @podcastorion on Twitter --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

Yes that's a Beastie Boys reference Today we talk about inter galactic relationships and the prospect of the UFP meeting them. Thoughts and ideas can be directed specifically to Steven. If you cant do that send us an email at orionsyndicatedpodcast.com or to our Twitter @podcastorion LLAP --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

The Brothers and Andy Andrew pick the hardest of episodes. Tell us where we are wrong either at orionsyndicatedpodcast.com @podcastorion or leave us a voicemail on our anchor page LLAP.... I hope i do after this list --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

Today we decided to talk about a less heralded episode of Star Trek, Course: Oblivion from season 5 of Voyager. Its a little more loose and we talk about how it might have been made a little better. Shout out to Reddit user u/rumborak the idea. You can reach us at orionsyndicatedpodcast@gmail.com or on Twitter @podcastorion LLAP --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

Little bonus conversation around the new animated series Lower Decks. Let us know if you like these little bonus bits by getting a hold of us via our Twitter account @podcastorion LLAP --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

Andrew had some ideas --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

Finally, Our opening dialogue on Tuvix this wil be civil, right??? --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

Sorry about the long wait time on this one guys and gals! In our second battle the brothers and Andrew break down another couple of great Star Trek episodes. Link to the poem I reference . https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54933/ode- LLAP --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

Enter Andrew! we break down six episodes of star trek for the ages Tell us where we're wrong @podcastorion on twitter orionsyndicadetpodcast@gmail.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

In this episode we tackle a very difficult question in fandom.... what is the BEST episode of Star Trek? We pick 16 of the best episodes to go head to head and judged on merit alone.  Is it subjective ? Yes Capricious? also and definitely yes Plus everyone gets to meet Andrew, except Steven! Thats next week for the other brother Follow us @podcastorion on twitter or email us at orionsyndicatedpodcast@gmail.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

This week we finally talk about Star Trek Discovery If you havent seen DSC then skip this one. We both wanted to talk about it!!*******SEASON 3 PLEASE******** --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

In this episode we discuss Enterprise (the show, not the ship) Favorite episodes, some theory and apparently we both love Jeffrey Combs If ENT wasn't your favorite ST, we're here to tell you why it was a very good edition of the Star Trek universe Thanks to the https://www.reddit.com/r/enterprise/ for their help putting this episode together Find us @podcastorion or @orionsydicatedpodcast.com@gmail.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

This week, O'Brien is infiltrating the Orion Syndicate to suss out a Federation informant, but when it hits the fan, he learns that there are bad guys on all sides! We're talking Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's "Honor Among Thieves", and we ask just how much more suffering can the Chief take?! Into the Wormhole is brought to you by our backers on Patreon! You can join us today at www.patreon.com/wormholepodcast! 

Steven takes the lead and picks the topic he does a great job picking some head canon second bit we get more personal https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ if someone needs help orionsydicatedpodcast@gmail.com @podcastorion --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

In this episode we break down the Borg vs the Dominion and if they have ever met each other. Big thanks to u/Ianofdoom2 on Reddit for the genesis of our conversation. Later we break down the Hirogen more in depth and resolve some head canon! Email us at orionsydicatedpodcast@gmail.com or find us on twitter @PodcastOrion --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

On this episode, the brothers rank all the Star Trek finales from worst to first! ****Obviously Spoilers **** This is the first time we've ever tried to script a bit. If you love Star Trek and a cat scaring a stranger then this is the episode for you. Find us on Twitter @podcastOrion or email us at Orionsyndicatedpodcast@gmail.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

This is our first pod cast about Star Trek its a little rough and we're learning as we go. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/Orion Syndicate(d)/support

O'Brien is recruited for an undercover Starfleet operation where he must infiltrate the Orion Syndicate and bring it down from the inside. During his mission, he befriends a man named Bilby. As their friendship flourishes, O'Brien becomes more and more conflicted about his mission: will he be able to betray Bilby? Back on DS9, the station is falling apart without its chief engineer. And that's pretty all that you need to know about that plotline because... that's all that happens. Wes and Clay discuss "Honor Among Thieves" and find themselves thinking about The Departed, wondering how an episode that features the theme of "family" can so completely ignore Keiko and the kids, and debate the plotlines that feature Miles O'Brien! Be sure to check out the Kickstarter for Clay's new book, "BLOODY HEL": www.bloodyhel.com Website: https://thepenskypodcast.com Subscribe: https://wavve.link/pensky Patreon: https://Patreon.com/thepenskyfile Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/the-pensky-file Twitter: https://twitter.com/PenskyFile Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thepenskyfilepod/ Discord: https://discord.gg/DU4hthX YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRUQ6GnjEtxm1vcvVw0t7HA E-mail: thepenskyfilevideo(at)gmail.com Are you looking for older episodes? Find this and every other episode at The Pensky Podcast! Thanks for listening. Stay connected: • https://thepenskyfile.com/links/ • e-mail: thepenskyfilevideo(at)gmail.com

O'Brien is recruited for an undercover Starfleet operation where he must infiltrate the Orion Syndicate and bring it down from the inside. During his mission, he befriends a man named Bilby. As their friendship flourishes, O'Brien becomes more and more conflicted about his mission: will he be able to betray Bilby? Back on DS9, the station is falling apart without its chief engineer. And that's pretty all that you need to know about that plotline because... that's all that happens. Wes and Clay discuss "Honor Among Thieves" and find themselves thinking about The Departed, wondering how an episode that features the theme of "family" can so completely ignore Keiko and the kids, and debate the plotlines that feature Miles O'Brien! Be sure to check out the Kickstarter for Clay's new book, "BLOODY HEL": www.bloodyhel.com Website: https://thepenskypodcast.com Subscribe: https://wavve.link/pensky Patreon: https://Patreon.com/thepenskyfile Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/the-pensky-file Twitter: https://twitter.com/PenskyFile Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thepenskyfilepod/ Discord: https://discord.gg/DU4hthX YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRUQ6GnjEtxm1vcvVw0t7HA E-mail: thepenskyfilevideo(at)gmail.com Are you looking for older episodes? Find this and every other episode at The Pensky Podcast! Thanks for listening. Stay connected: • https://thepenskyfile.com/links/ • e-mail: thepenskyfilevideo(at)gmail.com

O'Brien is missing from Deep Space Nine, and also from most of this episode.  To find him Ezri must go home to face her family and the ... the toxic effects of capitalism? The sequel that definitely nobody asked for.    Not even the writers apparently.   What happened here?  Who is owed an apology?  Audra Come Home.  Where does this episode sit next to other season's low points?  Is this episode actually a nuanced critique of capitalism?  Wade, your audio is going in the penalty box for that take.  Do UFP citizens live in a post capitalist society or not?  What is the Federation?  Are not all Trill Federation citizens?  Why would anyone leave it?  Is Ezri's mom a Ron Paul fan?  Finally, in season 7 of our multi year podcast, we try to figure out what the Federation of Planets defines itself as.    Bilby? Ok, but what about this new character? Sorry O'brien.  Bobo Jessica Lang.  The Godfather?  This is a mess; all hands on deck.  James misses his friends.  What exactly is this Star Trek again?   What is its thesis?  How is our relationship with the show shifting?     Is Ezri the new Worf?    Does Miles have a thicker accent?  We get some Trill world building.  Is Ezri's family a Bret Easton Ellis novel?  Did Ezri become the black sheep by joining?  Whoah is her brother a creep. What kind of mediocre brother is her other brother like?  People who relate to Dax's pronoun confusion deserve better.  Imagine if Norvo were like Brenda's brother on Six Feet Under?    Jambi!    What was the problem with Bilby's wife? Was it worth this?    Follow your passion, or become a sad broken murderer.  Is it our fault when our brothers get turned into murderers by Capitalism?  Who doesn't love a good matte painting?   Make it happen Wes Anderson!    Has there ever been a good Orion Syndicate episode in all of Trek?  How might that work?    Apologies again for Wade's poor audio on this one Let us know what you think! 917 408 3898 https://twitter.com/kickerspodcasts https://patreon.com/kickersofelves

Odo doesn't have a lot of luck in love. But, his luck kind of changes when a mysterious woman comes aboard DS9 looking for some bedroom eyes. The secrets that she keeps may end up de-railing Odo's brief stint at a love-life as the Orion Syndicate is on her tail, and they mean business. How will Odo make out? Join Dr Bill, Paul, Andrew, and Dave as they discuss yet another episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.Feedback for this show can be sent to: listentotheprophets@gmail.comListen to the Prophets is a proud member of the Two True Freaks! (http://www.twotruefreaks.com/main.php) family of podcasts, the best place on the internet to find shows about Star Wars, Star Trek, Comics, Movies, and anything else that the modern geek could ever want. The show can be found on iTunes by searching for Two True Freaks Presents: Listen to the Prophets or it can be downloaded from the website directly here. And if you are downloading the show through iTunes, please be sure to leave a rating, hopefully a FIVE STAR RATING, because every rating we get helps people to know that the show is out there. Thanks for downloading, and come back next time and take some time to...LISTEN TO THE PROPHETS.

Odo doesn't have a lot of luck in love. But, his luck kind of changes when a mysterious woman comes aboard DS9 looking for some bedroom eyes. The secrets that she keeps may end up de-railing Odo's brief stint at a love-life as the Orion Syndicate is on her tail, and they mean business. How will Odo make out? Join Dr Bill, Paul, Andrew, and Dave as they discuss yet another episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.Feedback for this show can be sent to: listentotheprophets@gmail.comListen to the Prophets is a proud member of the Two True Freaks! (http://www.twotruefreaks.com/main.php) family of podcasts, the best place on the internet to find shows about Star Wars, Star Trek, Comics, Movies, and anything else that the modern geek could ever want. The show can be found on iTunes by searching for Two True Freaks Presents: Listen to the Prophets or it can be downloaded from the website directly here. And if you are downloading the show through iTunes, please be sure to leave a rating, hopefully a FIVE STAR RATING, because every rating we get helps people to know that the show is out there. Thanks for downloading, and come back next time and take some time to...LISTEN TO THE PROPHETS.

O'Brien goes undercover! Noir it up. Knives out! Does a Donnie Brasco plot negate any worth of a mob episode? James and Wade disagree mightily about the ways one can resolve a third act.   When mixing genres is it necessary to transcend the classic tropes or is it ok to just do a noir well by it's own rules?  When it comes to acting, it's all a matter of taste, apparently. Who was the original Bilby? Does this episode weaken the Orion Syndicate? How bout Maniac though? Check it out on netflix.  Wade is reminded of Shadowrun. Cats from 20 years ago: Where are they now? Oh yeah… What are all the red herrings in this episode? Love amongst men, is that the central theme of the episode? Should this have made being a gangster look more fun? Is that a failure of the episode?  Do the green skinned aliens have anything to do with the Orion Syndicate?  How does Rene Echevarria agree with us? The cat: O'brien's Sisko's baseball. Family: How important is it how we talk about how important they are?  Netflix execs, we need a Deadwood Actor Playlist option!   Let us know what you think! 917 408 3898 and support us on patreon at patreon.com/kickersofelves

It is certainly an interesting episode this week. Maybe even controversial? Miles goes undercover (for Section 30 apparently) to take down the dastardly Orion Syndicate… or at least a tiny corner of it. Thoughts? Be sure to leave us some feedback. Perhaps what your opinions on what Bilby’s fate ended up being.

DS9 seems really invested in making Ezri a character, so they give us a dysfunctional family backstory in “Prodigal Daughter”. Then, we say goodbye to the Mirror Universe with “The Emperor’s New Cloak.” iTunes Google Play RSS

Richard finally gets an episode that fleshes out the Orion Syndicate a bit more, in “Honor Among Thieves”, and it turns out to be pretty okay? Then, in “Change of Heart”, Worf makes a hard decision and Sisko yells at him. Worf gets yelled at a lot. iTunes Google Play RSS

VOY 4x17 / DS9 6x15. Buy an isokinetic cannon and join the Orion Syndicate in this installment of From There to Here: The Star Trek 50th Anniversary Rewatch from Trek.fm. Chapters Retrospect (00:00:56)  Honor Among Thieves (00:09:09) Hosts Lee Hutchison and Amy Nelson ProductionMike Schindler (Editor and Producer) C Bryan Jones (Executive Producer) Charlynn Schmiedt (Executive Producer) Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer) Ken Tripp (Executive Producer) Norman C. Lao (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager)

00:00:00 INTRO In this week's episode, Darrell chastises J.K. about his drinking(nypocrite) before discussing San Diego Comic Con, Boston Comic Con and Darrell's vagina. 00:25:51 CAPTAIN MARCUS BERTRAND'S LOG Back by popular demand, Captain Marcus Bertrand's Log!!ACTION CAPTAIN! Captain Marcus and ensign Woodward beam dopwn and take on the Orion Syndicate. https://www.facebook.com/CaptainMarcusBertrand 00:30:52 - THIS WEEK's COMICS - JK reviews "The Ghoul" by Steve Niles and Bernie Wrightson and Darrell reviews "A Once Crowded Sky" by Tom King. A Once Crowded Sky by Tom King http://www.amazon.com/Once-Crowded-Sky-Novel/dp/1451652011/ref=tmm_pap_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1375190728&sr=1-1 Salvation Sally by Tom King http://www.amazon.com/Harbinger-Salvation-Kindle-Worlds-ebook/dp/B00CSUV0MM You Are Not the First and There Will be More After You by Tom King http://www.amazon.com/Harbinger-First-Kindle-Worlds-ebook/dp/B00DET5LB2/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1375191193&sr=1-1&keywords=you are not the first 00:59:09 - OFF TO THE PUB - This week we run into Mike Carey. We talk to him about his incredible career and his recent title for BOOM! Studios, "Suicide Risk". Then we run out on the tab. http://www.boom-studios.com/series/title?series_id=915&name=Suicide%20Risk 01:30:47 - BLOOPERS 01:33:30 - OUTRO MUSIC Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/JKsHappyHour https://twitter.com/JK_Woodward https://twitter.com/theVoice123 Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/JKs-Happy-Hour/164886523650171 Discount Comic Book Services: http://www.dcbservice.com/index.aspx Instock Trades: http://www.instocktrades.com/ Join us on the forums at: http://www.forumforgeeks.com Blogs: http://thetaylornetwork.wordpress.com/ http://jkwoodwardart.blogspot.com/

00:00:00 INTRO In this week's episode, Darrell chastises J.K. about his drinking(nypocrite) before discussing San Diego Comic Con, Boston Comic Con and Darrell's vagina. 00:25:51 CAPTAIN MARCUS BERTRAND'S LOG Back by popular demand, Captain Marcus Bertrand's Log!!ACTION CAPTAIN! Captain Marcus and ensign Woodward beam dopwn and take on the Orion Syndicate. https://www.facebook.com/CaptainMarcusBertrand 00:30:52 - THIS WEEK's COMICS - JK reviews "The Ghoul" by Steve Niles and Bernie Wrightson and Darrell reviews "A Once Crowded Sky" by Tom King. A Once Crowded Sky by Tom King http://www.amazon.com/Once-Crowded-Sky-Novel/dp/1451652011/ref=tmm_pap_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1375190728&sr=1-1 Salvation Sally by Tom King http://www.amazon.com/Harbinger-Salvation-Kindle-Worlds-ebook/dp/B00CSUV0MM You Are Not the First and There Will be More After You by Tom King http://www.amazon.com/Harbinger-First-Kindle-Worlds-ebook/dp/B00DET5LB2/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1375191193&sr=1-1&keywords=you are not the first 00:59:09 - OFF TO THE PUB - This week we run into Mike Carey. We talk to him about his incredible career and his recent title for BOOM! Studios, "Suicide Risk". Then we run out on the tab. http://www.boom-studios.com/series/title?series_id=915&name=Suicide%20Risk 01:30:47 - BLOOPERS 01:33:30 - OUTRO MUSIC Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/JKsHappyHour https://twitter.com/JK_Woodward https://twitter.com/theVoice123 Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/JKs-Happy-Hour/164886523650171 Discount Comic Book Services: http://www.dcbservice.com/index.aspx Instock Trades: http://www.instocktrades.com/ Join us on the forums at: http://www.forumforgeeks.com Blogs: http://thetaylornetwork.wordpress.com/ http://jkwoodwardart.blogspot.com/