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In this episode of Pathmonk Presents, we welcome Hayden Baillio, the head of demand generation at Herodevs. Hayden provides insights into Herodevs' unique approach to securing and supporting open source software. He explains how the company creates secure drop-in replacements for outdated open source libraries, helping organizations meet compliance standards and avoid security vulnerabilities. Hayden also shares his experiences in marketing strategy, website optimization, and community engagement within the open source ecosystem. Listeners will gain valuable insights into the intersection of technology, marketing, and open source sustainability.
### Note dell'episodioQuesta settimana riprendiamo le registrazioni con una puntata davvero interessante! Insieme a Marco Ippolito abbiamo parlato di come bilanciare il lavoro, le attività open source e le conferenze, e della nuova feature di Node.js chiamata *Type Stripping*. Marco ha raccontato la sua esperienza con questa innovazione, che consente di eseguire TypeScript senza la necessità di tipi, migliorando l'efficienza del runtime.Abbiamo discusso l'importanza della community nell'open source, il valore delle relazioni che si formano, e come affrontare la visibilità e le critiche ricevute sui social. Marco ha condiviso la sua visione sull'evoluzione di Node.js e sulla collaborazione tra Node e TypeScript per migliorare l'ecosistema. La feature di Type Stripping rappresenta una svolta per il futuro di Node.js, pur incontrando qualche resistenza da parte dei puristi di JavaScript.### Paese dei Balocchi- Libro consigliato da Marco: Crafting Interpreters di Robert Nystrom- Libreria JavaScript: BullMQ https://docs.bullmq.io/ , una soluzione efficace per gestire code di lavoro e schedulazione.### Supportaci suhttps://www.gitbar.it/support### Link amazon affiliatohttps://amzn.to/3XDznm1### Per favore ascoltaci usando una di queste app:https://podcastindex.org/apps### ContattiCi trovate su Twitter come @brainrepo oppure potete scriverci via mail su https://gitbar.it.### CreditiLe sigle sono state prodotte da MondoComputazionale Le musiche da Blan Kytt - RSPN Sweet Lullaby by Agnese Valmaggia Monkeys Spinning Monkeys by Kevin MacLeod
This week we're joined by Jordan Harband, a pillar of the npm ecosystem. Jordan maintains a staggering amount of open source projects that are used by millions of developers. Jordan has some opinions that go against the mainstream when it comes to legacy support. Join us as we try to understand his perspective. https://www.linkedin.com/in/ljharb/ https://github.com/ljharb https://x.com/ljharb Episode sponsored By MUX (https://mux.com) Become a paid subscriber our patreon, spotify, or apple podcasts for the full episode. https://www.patreon.com/devtoolsfm https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/devtoolsfm/subscribe https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/devtools-fm/id1566647758 https://www.youtube.com/@devtoolsfm/membership
In this podcast episode, host Dave Sobel interviews Paula Paul, the founder and distinguished engineer at Grayshore, about the importance of open source in businesses. Paula emphasizes that open source is already deeply integrated into most commercial applications, with a vast majority of software relying on open-source libraries. She highlights the need for businesses to effectively manage and secure their open-source dependencies, especially in light of recent instances where open-source has been used as an attack vector for social engineering. Paula discusses the challenges faced by organizations in managing dependencies on open-source packages, which have significantly increased in complexity over the years. She advises businesses to become more aware of the open-source packages they rely on and to prioritize securing customer-facing assets. Paula also recommends getting involved with organizations like the OpenJS Foundation and leveraging services from companies like Tidelift and HeroDevs to support and secure open-source dependencies. The conversation delves into the risks and benefits of using open-source software, highlighting the potential for social engineering attacks and licensing issues. Paula argues that the open-source model offers more agility and community support compared to closed-source solutions but also stresses the importance of contributing back to the open-source ecosystem. She encourages businesses to support the preservation of open source as a valuable natural resource and to align their missions with the values of the open-source community. As the discussion turns to the intersection of AI and open source, Paula sees opportunities for leveraging AI tools to enhance open-source projects, particularly in areas like code analysis and testing. She suggests that service organizations looking to engage with open source should explore projects within foundations like the OpenJS Foundation, Finos, and CNCF. Paula emphasizes the importance of human expertise in cybersecurity and the need for continuous monitoring and rapid response in today's threat landscape. Supported by:https://getinsync.ca/mspradio/https://www.huntress.com/mspradio/ All our Sponsors: https://businessof.tech/sponsors/ All our Sponsors: https://businessof.tech/sponsors/ Do you want the show on your podcast app or the written versions of the stories? Subscribe to the Business of Tech: https://www.businessof.tech/subscribe/Looking for a link from the stories? The entire script of the show, with links to articles, are posted in each story on https://www.businessof.tech/ Support the show on Patreon: https://patreon.com/mspradio/ Want our stuff? Cool Merch? Wear “Why Do We Care?” - Visit https://mspradio.myspreadshop.com Follow us on:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/28908079/YouTube: https://youtube.com/mspradio/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mspradionews/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mspradio/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@businessoftechBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/businessoftech.bsky.social
In this podcast episode, Tracy Lee (@ladyleet) and Ben Lesh (@benlesh) sit down with Aaron Frost and talk about Scully.io! Guest: Aaron Frost (@aaronfrost) - CEO, Founder, Architect of HeroDevs and ng-conf organizer This episode is sponsored by KendoReact & This Dot Labs.
Quick Show Notes Our Guest: Aaron Frost What he'd like for you to see: HeroDevs doing Extended LTS Support for AngularJS | ScullyJS His JAMstack Jams: Scully His Musical Jam: Lizzo Miley TayTay Freddie DeadMau5 Our sponsor this week: TakeShape Welcome to another jam-packed JAMstack adventure on That’s My JAMstack, the podcast where we ask the fantastical question “What’s your jam in the jamstack?”On today’s episode we have the creator of the Angular JAMstack framework Scully: Aaron Frost. I’m excited to dive into Scully’s creation and find out more.Before we get to the interview, I just want to mention our sponsor this week: Take Shape. Stick around after the episode to find out more about their Content Platform or just head over to takeshape.io/thatsmyjamstack for more informationIntro/outtro music by bensound.comSupport That's my JAMstack by donating to their Tip Jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/thats-my-jamstack
Sponsors Sentry use the code “devchat” for 2 months free on Sentry small plan Angular Bootcamp Triplebyte offers a $1000 signing bonus CacheFly Panel Aaron Frost Shai Reznik Brian Love Joined by Special Guest: Sander Elias Episode Summary In this episode of Adventures in Angular, the panel talks to Sander Elias, Senior Principal Engineer at HeroDevs from Netherlands. Sander is also an Angular Google GDE. Sander created Observable forms, an alternative way to do forms in Angular which takes advantage of what the platform has to offer. Aaron also talks about his speech at ng-conf 2019 and his follow up blog post about the speech and why he felt the need to write it. Links Sander’s GitHub Sander’s Twitter Sander’s LinkedIn Sander’s Medium ng-conf 2019 Sander Elias - ng-conf ObservableForm GitHub Aaron Frost Blog Piece Follow Adventures in Angular on tv, Facebook and Twitter. Picks Sander Elias: ng-conf 2019 https://github.com/tc39/proposal-decorators Suguru's Blog Angular 8 Release Aaron Frost: A is for Angular | Jo Hanna Pearce Melina Mejia Brian Love: ng-conf 2019 Reid Villeneuve Avengers: Endgame (2019) Shai Reznik: ng-conf 2019 A is for Angular | Jo Hanna Pearce Chrome Developers Channel Michio Kaku on The Future of Humanity https://www.16personalities.com/
Sponsors Sentry use the code “devchat” for 2 months free on Sentry small plan Angular Bootcamp Triplebyte offers a $1000 signing bonus CacheFly Panel Aaron Frost Shai Reznik Brian Love Joined by Special Guest: Sander Elias Episode Summary In this episode of Adventures in Angular, the panel talks to Sander Elias, Senior Principal Engineer at HeroDevs from Netherlands. Sander is also an Angular Google GDE. Sander created Observable forms, an alternative way to do forms in Angular which takes advantage of what the platform has to offer. Aaron also talks about his speech at ng-conf 2019 and his follow up blog post about the speech and why he felt the need to write it. Links Sander’s GitHub Sander’s Twitter Sander’s LinkedIn Sander’s Medium ng-conf 2019 Sander Elias - ng-conf ObservableForm GitHub Aaron Frost Blog Piece Follow Adventures in Angular on tv, Facebook and Twitter. Picks Sander Elias: ng-conf 2019 https://github.com/tc39/proposal-decorators Suguru's Blog Angular 8 Release Aaron Frost: A is for Angular | Jo Hanna Pearce Melina Mejia Brian Love: ng-conf 2019 Reid Villeneuve Avengers: Endgame (2019) Shai Reznik: ng-conf 2019 A is for Angular | Jo Hanna Pearce Chrome Developers Channel Michio Kaku on The Future of Humanity https://www.16personalities.com/
Sponsors Sentry use the code “devchat” for 2 months free on Sentry small plan Angular Bootcamp Triplebyte offers a $1000 signing bonus CacheFly Panel Aaron Frost Shai Reznik Brian Love Joined by Special Guest: Sander Elias Episode Summary In this episode of Adventures in Angular, the panel talks to Sander Elias, Senior Principal Engineer at HeroDevs from Netherlands. Sander is also an Angular Google GDE. Sander created Observable forms, an alternative way to do forms in Angular which takes advantage of what the platform has to offer. Aaron also talks about his speech at ng-conf 2019 and his follow up blog post about the speech and why he felt the need to write it. Links Sander’s GitHub Sander’s Twitter Sander’s LinkedIn Sander’s Medium ng-conf 2019 Sander Elias - ng-conf ObservableForm GitHub Aaron Frost Blog Piece Follow Adventures in Angular on tv, Facebook and Twitter. Picks Sander Elias: ng-conf 2019 https://github.com/tc39/proposal-decorators Suguru's Blog Angular 8 Release Aaron Frost: A is for Angular | Jo Hanna Pearce Melina Mejia Brian Love: ng-conf 2019 Reid Villeneuve Avengers: Endgame (2019) Shai Reznik: ng-conf 2019 A is for Angular | Jo Hanna Pearce Chrome Developers Channel Michio Kaku on The Future of Humanity https://www.16personalities.com/
Sponsors Netlify Sentry use the code "devchat" for $100 credit Clubhouse Panel: Charles Max Wood AJ O’Neal Aimee Knight Aaron Frost Chris Ferdinandi Joe Eames Tim Caswell Notes: This episode of JavaScript Jabber has the panelists reminiscing on the past. First, they discuss the projects they’re working on. Tim has joined MagicLeap doing JavaScript and C++. Aaron Frost is one of the founders of HeroDevs. AJ works at Big Squid, a company that takes spreadsheets and turns them into business actions, and is expecting a daughter. Aimee has been exploring developer advocacy, but wants to focus primarily on engineering. She is currently working at MPM. Joe has taken over the CEO position for thinkster.io, a company for learning web development online. Chris switched from being a general web developer specializing in JavaScript and has started blogging daily rather than once a week, and has seen an increase in sales of his vanilla JavaScript educational products. Charles discusses his long term goal for Devchat.tv. He wants to help people feel free in programming, and help people find opportunities though the Devchat.tv through empowering content. Next, the panelists discuss their favorite episodes. Some of the most highly recommended episodes are JSJ 124: The Origin of Javascript with Brendan Eich (1:44:07) JSJ 161: Rust with David Herman (1:05:05) JSJ 336: “The Origin of ESLint with Nicholas Zakas” (1:08:01) JSJ 338: It’s Supposed To Hurt, Get Outside of Your Comfort Zone to Master Your Craft with Christopher Buecheler (43:36) JSJ 218: Ember.js with Yehuda Katz (42:47) Last, the panelists discuss what they do to unwind. Activities include working out, reading, playing Zelda and Mario Kart, studying other sciences like physics, painting miniatures, and Dungeons and Dragons. Picks: Charles Max Wood Villainous Board Game Joe Eames Azul Stained Glass Board Game AJ O’Neal https://www.digikey.com/ Magnetic Hourglass: Amazon | Hobby Lobby $6 Aimee Knight https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/24/well/mind/work-schedule-hours-sleep-productivity-chronotype-night-owls.html Aaron Frost Matrix PowerWatch https://twitter.com/ChloeCondon Chris Ferdinandi https://learnvanillajs.com/ Tim Caswell https://www.magicleap.com/ https://textonascreen.rocks/ https://history.lds.org/saints
Sponsors Netlify Sentry use the code "devchat" for $100 credit Clubhouse Panel: Charles Max Wood AJ O’Neal Aimee Knight Aaron Frost Chris Ferdinandi Joe Eames Tim Caswell Notes: This episode of JavaScript Jabber has the panelists reminiscing on the past. First, they discuss the projects they’re working on. Tim has joined MagicLeap doing JavaScript and C++. Aaron Frost is one of the founders of HeroDevs. AJ works at Big Squid, a company that takes spreadsheets and turns them into business actions, and is expecting a daughter. Aimee has been exploring developer advocacy, but wants to focus primarily on engineering. She is currently working at MPM. Joe has taken over the CEO position for thinkster.io, a company for learning web development online. Chris switched from being a general web developer specializing in JavaScript and has started blogging daily rather than once a week, and has seen an increase in sales of his vanilla JavaScript educational products. Charles discusses his long term goal for Devchat.tv. He wants to help people feel free in programming, and help people find opportunities though the Devchat.tv through empowering content. Next, the panelists discuss their favorite episodes. Some of the most highly recommended episodes are JSJ 124: The Origin of Javascript with Brendan Eich (1:44:07) JSJ 161: Rust with David Herman (1:05:05) JSJ 336: “The Origin of ESLint with Nicholas Zakas” (1:08:01) JSJ 338: It’s Supposed To Hurt, Get Outside of Your Comfort Zone to Master Your Craft with Christopher Buecheler (43:36) JSJ 218: Ember.js with Yehuda Katz (42:47) Last, the panelists discuss what they do to unwind. Activities include working out, reading, playing Zelda and Mario Kart, studying other sciences like physics, painting miniatures, and Dungeons and Dragons. Picks: Charles Max Wood Villainous Board Game Joe Eames Azul Stained Glass Board Game AJ O’Neal https://www.digikey.com/ Magnetic Hourglass: Amazon | Hobby Lobby $6 Aimee Knight https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/24/well/mind/work-schedule-hours-sleep-productivity-chronotype-night-owls.html Aaron Frost Matrix PowerWatch https://twitter.com/ChloeCondon Chris Ferdinandi https://learnvanillajs.com/ Tim Caswell https://www.magicleap.com/ https://textonascreen.rocks/ https://history.lds.org/saints
Sponsors Netlify Sentry use the code "devchat" for $100 credit Clubhouse Panel: Charles Max Wood AJ O’Neal Aimee Knight Aaron Frost Chris Ferdinandi Joe Eames Tim Caswell Notes: This episode of JavaScript Jabber has the panelists reminiscing on the past. First, they discuss the projects they’re working on. Tim has joined MagicLeap doing JavaScript and C++. Aaron Frost is one of the founders of HeroDevs. AJ works at Big Squid, a company that takes spreadsheets and turns them into business actions, and is expecting a daughter. Aimee has been exploring developer advocacy, but wants to focus primarily on engineering. She is currently working at MPM. Joe has taken over the CEO position for thinkster.io, a company for learning web development online. Chris switched from being a general web developer specializing in JavaScript and has started blogging daily rather than once a week, and has seen an increase in sales of his vanilla JavaScript educational products. Charles discusses his long term goal for Devchat.tv. He wants to help people feel free in programming, and help people find opportunities though the Devchat.tv through empowering content. Next, the panelists discuss their favorite episodes. Some of the most highly recommended episodes are JSJ 124: The Origin of Javascript with Brendan Eich (1:44:07) JSJ 161: Rust with David Herman (1:05:05) JSJ 336: “The Origin of ESLint with Nicholas Zakas” (1:08:01) JSJ 338: It’s Supposed To Hurt, Get Outside of Your Comfort Zone to Master Your Craft with Christopher Buecheler (43:36) JSJ 218: Ember.js with Yehuda Katz (42:47) Last, the panelists discuss what they do to unwind. Activities include working out, reading, playing Zelda and Mario Kart, studying other sciences like physics, painting miniatures, and Dungeons and Dragons. Picks: Charles Max Wood Villainous Board Game Joe Eames Azul Stained Glass Board Game AJ O’Neal https://www.digikey.com/ Magnetic Hourglass: Amazon | Hobby Lobby $6 Aimee Knight https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/24/well/mind/work-schedule-hours-sleep-productivity-chronotype-night-owls.html Aaron Frost Matrix PowerWatch https://twitter.com/ChloeCondon Chris Ferdinandi https://learnvanillajs.com/ Tim Caswell https://www.magicleap.com/ https://textonascreen.rocks/ https://history.lds.org/saints
Panel: Charles Max Wood Aaron Frost John Papa Alyssa Nicholl Special Guests: Dan Muller In this episode, the Adventures in Angular panel talks with Dan Muller who is a member of the NRWL team and who has developed Angular Console. The panel asks Dan questions about the console and the pros and cons of it. Check out today’s episode! Show Topics: 1:19 – Dan: I work now with NRWL and I used to work at Google and then I got bored writing Angular applications. I then texted a colleague and worked with him and he gave me what is now called 1:52 – Chuck: Nice. Give us the elevator pitch for Angular Console? 2:00 – Dan: It is mostly pretty. 2:19 – Alyssa comments. 2:30 – Dan: To each their own. 2:38 – Dan One of the parts working at Google I would copy and paste the patterns I did at Google. Now we stopped copying and pasting code. If you are newbie there is a learning code and that’s a drag. What it (Angular Console) does it makes it easier for novices for them to know what can you generate and what options are available to you. It makes you feel nice and comforted and holds your hand. It’s a tool for me because I often go fast and it makes sure I don’t do anything wrong. It’s focused, and it keeps me focused. 4:29 – Panelist: I just installed it for the first time. I am working on a project for a client and been doing a lot of NGG things. I am looking at this thing and I can see how it can be pretty helpful with its UI. Get in and try it out. 5:23 – Dan: That’s the generate screen. 5:30 – I have a terminal and it... 5:51 – Dan: As you building up the commands it constantly runs them. It would be insane for you to hit the Enter key and copy and paste, cause we only have 2 hands. As you are doing the commands it will tell you what’s missing. You will have the flags above it and tweak it a little and it comes together. 6:45 – Chuck. 6:53 – Dan: Under the hood it’s running it verbatim. Anything that has an architecture definition every 1/10 sec it...will live update and it sees what projects you have, what apps you have and anything you have with a CI it will present it to you. 7:51 – It has some custom scripts. 8:03 – Alyssa: What did you do to install it? 8:05 - AngularConsole.com Welcome download button and I downloaded it. 8:43 – It’s a tiny file. 8:47 – You are trying your best to make your bundle efficient. 8:57 – Electron app is about the same size. It took only 11 seconds to download for me. 9:11 – Nobody uses Lenox, so... 9:22 – It does some very simple things it can do and chime-in when you want, Dan! I can see all my projects and if you were in a workspace you can see it all. If you have an Angular project you can do a generate component. There is a code generator, and there is a run screen. And in the end – I have a question about extensions? This is really where you can get a bunch of schematics, right? 10:34 – Panelist asks a question. 10:38 – Dan: Not wrong at all. 11:25 – Panelist and Dan go back-and-forth. 11:36 – We should do a show on schematics. 11:43 – You are percolating a few new ones – that’s cool. What would be cool is if you... 12:14 – Dan: Yeah it’s hard coded. We put this together in less than a month. It started in the middle of like October and we just put together and released in 3 weeks. Considering how slow Angular has developed it’s interesting to see... 13:01 – Yeah I am seeing the extensions that reminds me... I like how you can search with these extensions there especially with the filter. 13:21 – Dan: We want to eventually I hope we can surface more things. Not everyone thinks how a designer thinks. We are trivial to discover them maybe they would. He’s very much open to that someday. 14:24 – I want to ask a question. Let’s do a poll request and it’s important to me. I don’t see the file where that lives. 14:41 – Dan: I think there is a pre-existing file. You can base it off of that one. 14:55 – A little context that I have and the one question that keeps coming up is what’s to say that this won’t drive us down a road to only do what NX wants us to do? 15:52 – Dan: It’s tricky. Actually, back when the CUI they were thinking of something very similar to the console and it never happened. Basically before we launched it to the public we wanted to make sure that Angular team was on board with us. Even though we own the repo we wanted Google to sign-off the code. Make sure that they did it the correct way and they have lawyers more so than a start-up does. Eventually they will own...and they will be in charge of the release schedule. But all in all it’s my baby and I won’t give it up. There are extensions... Dan continues this conversation. 18:20 – Yeah so far using the console I can see the NX and finding extensions is hard. Where would you go find it? So this stuff... 18:53 – As long as NX still stays an option than something you MUST choose then... 19:12 – Dan: We decided early on that we didn’t want to shove NX into their face. That console can be useful but useful in another way. What we are building is this way you can reach out to us. We are a consulting company. If you are in the middle of making your app and you see a bug then we are building out a NWRL connect where you can connect with us. 20:12 – Yeah I see that NWRL connect. Do I get you for free? 20:26 – John Papa discount. 20:31 – I usually have to pay him $10,000 a minute! 20:53 – Yeah, he’s a cofounder (Victor). 21:03 – It gives his number and SSN! 21:17 – Alyssa: You said you have a lot of ideas of how console could go, do you have any things in the next steps? 21:32 – Dan: I wasn’t very ambitious when I started the project. It’s not a huge desktop client focus application. I am adding background tasks. Things you can run all the time so you don’t have to click them all the time. 23:17 – Advertisement – Get a coder job! 23:58 – Why would you use this tool? 24:05 – Dan: I have this fun experience when I was making console at first. It didn’t have the command screen and I needed to make a dialogue for creating a new workspace. And I said: Oh Shoot I don’t remember how to generate a module with routing. So instead of Googling...server and opened up Angular Console workspace and generated a component with it and it... 25:11 – Comment. 25:19 – Dan: During auto complete... 26:10 – Panelist: If they want that UI...and when I teach Angular the first thing I teach is the UI. I think UI is a great starting point. I look at the console to see the extensions. 27:09 – The CUI is already abstracting multiple different things. Now you have added a UI to it, I think it will be attractive for different people. I can see people saying I got it, and other people (John Papa) teaching a course, or maybe...certain people will like/don’t like it. 28:12 – I don’t think it’s an either or. 28:20 – Chuck: I would try things on the command line, and then things on the console line and figure out how it works with my flow. If I have 2 tools then I will use 1 for X and the other for Y. 28:47 – Dan comments. 29:17 – Where should people go to voice their ideas? 29:29 – Dan: Some ideas are really, really good! Yeah shoot me a message. 30:19 – You haven’t seen my issues, yet, bro. 30:28 – Chuck: Was it inspired by the... 30:37 – Dan: Shamelessly I steal design all the time. As I develop the Angular Console more I am steering away from their design but... 31:26 – Chuck: Depending on WHO I am talking about there is rivalry between maybe Vue and Angular and whatever. I like the idea of sharing to show the mature elements to bring in what I am doing. 31:59 – The main difference is the implementation is electron and web app and tell us pros and cons and why? 32:14 – Dan: We could have done it either way. It looked more beautiful in my dock. Having it be an honest to goodness app and not having to open a terminal and fire it up, it didn’t feel professional or good. There is a little bit of professionalism there. 33:42 – Chuck: I agree with that. 33:48 – I like that it is web and that it’s a web application. It’s nice to have a web app open. 34:06 – Dan comments. Dan: Discoverability is there. There are 2 servers and you could load it up and open it up in Chrome. We don’t use a lot of electronic UPIS because you are just running your terminal. 34:56 – Chuck comments. 35:02 – I just put the 7’s in there and there it is! 35:11 – Dan: Theoretically, it is useful. That’s good. 35:19 – What port? 35:40 – Chuck, panel and guest go back-and-forth. 36:06 – Seems like a good idea. 36:13 – Hacker News. 36:17 – Dan: That’s the dream – my life would be made as a developer. 36:38 – Chuck. 36:55 – I submitted a PR in there and looks like you are still getting help with this. I am a fan of this tool. People will love this. 37:15 – Dan: We have more things that we want to add it - it to make it more attractive. We are making it official we are... 37:54 – There are people that kill NWRLs. 38:03 – Chuck. 38:08 – Dan: Fellow NWRLer, Jack... 38:50 – That stuff exists through web pack, right? 39:20 – Dan: We can’t use it because it’s garbage and I won’t touch it. 39:35 – Dan: I don’t know. We are going to do basically the same thing but prettier. The code will be prettier. 40:10 – Chuck: Aaron, it looks like you put in a request to put in the plug-in. And you did it pretty fast so it’s not hard to do? 40:31 – Probably not formatted properly. 40:40 – Panel and guest go back-and-forth. 40:54 – You have to fix it on the air. It’s a space problem. My line space is too long. 41:07 – Panelists and guest. 41:46 – Dan: Any compliment from Victor makes my life. 41:57 – Panelist: I changed it. 42:05 – Alyssa: Is it green light, green arrow? 42:15 – I am just failing. 42:21 – I used the web editor I really didn’t... 42:30 – Alyssa: It was a space issue. 42:39 – 3 more minutes to go... 42:54 – Chuck sing us a song while we wait. 43:03 – Is there a contributions page for people to contribute? 43:18 – Dan: It tells you exactly how to run it. 43:33 – Chuck: It using some of the web pack tools and the CUI and the command line, I am wondering if it’s possible to add - not extensions to the CUI stuff but - to the console itself? Setup the other things that aren’t Angular specific but are apart of my overall template? Or do you do that through schematics? 44:16 – Dan: There are different ways to approach it. Your personal workflow you probably should integrate it. Like anything else why wouldn’t you keep it the same? 45:42 – Panelist comments. 46:08 – Dan: Have you contributed to Angular before? 46:25 – Chuck: Anything else before Picks? 46:36 – NRWL Connects is our support product to help you with being a more productive Angular developer. 47:24 – Panelists and guest go back-and-forth. 47:41 – I didn’t know NRWL Connects was a thing. If I wasn’t personal friends with Victor and... There have been problems that I have solved because I have smart friends. NRWL Connect is to help those people who don’t have smart friends. People can solve a lot of problems and this is HUGE! 49:03 – Dan: Fingers crossed we are helping integrate Angular Connect to help with Basil. 49:39 – Chuck: Picks! 50:00 – Advertisement – Fresh Books! Links: Vue Angular NRWL NGRX – DATA LAB – GITHUB Angular Console Angular Prettier Schematic Chuck’s Twitter 5 Things about developing on a Mac – Video Real Talk JavaScript King and Queen of the Universe Grinders Dan Muller’s Bio through NRWL Sponsors: Angular Boot Camp Fresh Books Get a Coder Job Course Picks: Alyssa Kendal UI Library component update John Season 2 of 5 Things of JavaScript Podcast - Realtalk JavaScript Aaron Role for Initiative Charles Extreme Ownership Dungeon and Dragons HeroDevs.com Dan Look at the Birdie The King and Queen of the Universe Grinders Boots Screaming Females
Panel: Charles Max Wood Aaron Frost John Papa Alyssa Nicholl Special Guests: Dan Muller In this episode, the Adventures in Angular panel talks with Dan Muller who is a member of the NRWL team and who has developed Angular Console. The panel asks Dan questions about the console and the pros and cons of it. Check out today’s episode! Show Topics: 1:19 – Dan: I work now with NRWL and I used to work at Google and then I got bored writing Angular applications. I then texted a colleague and worked with him and he gave me what is now called 1:52 – Chuck: Nice. Give us the elevator pitch for Angular Console? 2:00 – Dan: It is mostly pretty. 2:19 – Alyssa comments. 2:30 – Dan: To each their own. 2:38 – Dan One of the parts working at Google I would copy and paste the patterns I did at Google. Now we stopped copying and pasting code. If you are newbie there is a learning code and that’s a drag. What it (Angular Console) does it makes it easier for novices for them to know what can you generate and what options are available to you. It makes you feel nice and comforted and holds your hand. It’s a tool for me because I often go fast and it makes sure I don’t do anything wrong. It’s focused, and it keeps me focused. 4:29 – Panelist: I just installed it for the first time. I am working on a project for a client and been doing a lot of NGG things. I am looking at this thing and I can see how it can be pretty helpful with its UI. Get in and try it out. 5:23 – Dan: That’s the generate screen. 5:30 – I have a terminal and it... 5:51 – Dan: As you building up the commands it constantly runs them. It would be insane for you to hit the Enter key and copy and paste, cause we only have 2 hands. As you are doing the commands it will tell you what’s missing. You will have the flags above it and tweak it a little and it comes together. 6:45 – Chuck. 6:53 – Dan: Under the hood it’s running it verbatim. Anything that has an architecture definition every 1/10 sec it...will live update and it sees what projects you have, what apps you have and anything you have with a CI it will present it to you. 7:51 – It has some custom scripts. 8:03 – Alyssa: What did you do to install it? 8:05 - AngularConsole.com Welcome download button and I downloaded it. 8:43 – It’s a tiny file. 8:47 – You are trying your best to make your bundle efficient. 8:57 – Electron app is about the same size. It took only 11 seconds to download for me. 9:11 – Nobody uses Lenox, so... 9:22 – It does some very simple things it can do and chime-in when you want, Dan! I can see all my projects and if you were in a workspace you can see it all. If you have an Angular project you can do a generate component. There is a code generator, and there is a run screen. And in the end – I have a question about extensions? This is really where you can get a bunch of schematics, right? 10:34 – Panelist asks a question. 10:38 – Dan: Not wrong at all. 11:25 – Panelist and Dan go back-and-forth. 11:36 – We should do a show on schematics. 11:43 – You are percolating a few new ones – that’s cool. What would be cool is if you... 12:14 – Dan: Yeah it’s hard coded. We put this together in less than a month. It started in the middle of like October and we just put together and released in 3 weeks. Considering how slow Angular has developed it’s interesting to see... 13:01 – Yeah I am seeing the extensions that reminds me... I like how you can search with these extensions there especially with the filter. 13:21 – Dan: We want to eventually I hope we can surface more things. Not everyone thinks how a designer thinks. We are trivial to discover them maybe they would. He’s very much open to that someday. 14:24 – I want to ask a question. Let’s do a poll request and it’s important to me. I don’t see the file where that lives. 14:41 – Dan: I think there is a pre-existing file. You can base it off of that one. 14:55 – A little context that I have and the one question that keeps coming up is what’s to say that this won’t drive us down a road to only do what NX wants us to do? 15:52 – Dan: It’s tricky. Actually, back when the CUI they were thinking of something very similar to the console and it never happened. Basically before we launched it to the public we wanted to make sure that Angular team was on board with us. Even though we own the repo we wanted Google to sign-off the code. Make sure that they did it the correct way and they have lawyers more so than a start-up does. Eventually they will own...and they will be in charge of the release schedule. But all in all it’s my baby and I won’t give it up. There are extensions... Dan continues this conversation. 18:20 – Yeah so far using the console I can see the NX and finding extensions is hard. Where would you go find it? So this stuff... 18:53 – As long as NX still stays an option than something you MUST choose then... 19:12 – Dan: We decided early on that we didn’t want to shove NX into their face. That console can be useful but useful in another way. What we are building is this way you can reach out to us. We are a consulting company. If you are in the middle of making your app and you see a bug then we are building out a NWRL connect where you can connect with us. 20:12 – Yeah I see that NWRL connect. Do I get you for free? 20:26 – John Papa discount. 20:31 – I usually have to pay him $10,000 a minute! 20:53 – Yeah, he’s a cofounder (Victor). 21:03 – It gives his number and SSN! 21:17 – Alyssa: You said you have a lot of ideas of how console could go, do you have any things in the next steps? 21:32 – Dan: I wasn’t very ambitious when I started the project. It’s not a huge desktop client focus application. I am adding background tasks. Things you can run all the time so you don’t have to click them all the time. 23:17 – Advertisement – Get a coder job! 23:58 – Why would you use this tool? 24:05 – Dan: I have this fun experience when I was making console at first. It didn’t have the command screen and I needed to make a dialogue for creating a new workspace. And I said: Oh Shoot I don’t remember how to generate a module with routing. So instead of Googling...server and opened up Angular Console workspace and generated a component with it and it... 25:11 – Comment. 25:19 – Dan: During auto complete... 26:10 – Panelist: If they want that UI...and when I teach Angular the first thing I teach is the UI. I think UI is a great starting point. I look at the console to see the extensions. 27:09 – The CUI is already abstracting multiple different things. Now you have added a UI to it, I think it will be attractive for different people. I can see people saying I got it, and other people (John Papa) teaching a course, or maybe...certain people will like/don’t like it. 28:12 – I don’t think it’s an either or. 28:20 – Chuck: I would try things on the command line, and then things on the console line and figure out how it works with my flow. If I have 2 tools then I will use 1 for X and the other for Y. 28:47 – Dan comments. 29:17 – Where should people go to voice their ideas? 29:29 – Dan: Some ideas are really, really good! Yeah shoot me a message. 30:19 – You haven’t seen my issues, yet, bro. 30:28 – Chuck: Was it inspired by the... 30:37 – Dan: Shamelessly I steal design all the time. As I develop the Angular Console more I am steering away from their design but... 31:26 – Chuck: Depending on WHO I am talking about there is rivalry between maybe Vue and Angular and whatever. I like the idea of sharing to show the mature elements to bring in what I am doing. 31:59 – The main difference is the implementation is electron and web app and tell us pros and cons and why? 32:14 – Dan: We could have done it either way. It looked more beautiful in my dock. Having it be an honest to goodness app and not having to open a terminal and fire it up, it didn’t feel professional or good. There is a little bit of professionalism there. 33:42 – Chuck: I agree with that. 33:48 – I like that it is web and that it’s a web application. It’s nice to have a web app open. 34:06 – Dan comments. Dan: Discoverability is there. There are 2 servers and you could load it up and open it up in Chrome. We don’t use a lot of electronic UPIS because you are just running your terminal. 34:56 – Chuck comments. 35:02 – I just put the 7’s in there and there it is! 35:11 – Dan: Theoretically, it is useful. That’s good. 35:19 – What port? 35:40 – Chuck, panel and guest go back-and-forth. 36:06 – Seems like a good idea. 36:13 – Hacker News. 36:17 – Dan: That’s the dream – my life would be made as a developer. 36:38 – Chuck. 36:55 – I submitted a PR in there and looks like you are still getting help with this. I am a fan of this tool. People will love this. 37:15 – Dan: We have more things that we want to add it - it to make it more attractive. We are making it official we are... 37:54 – There are people that kill NWRLs. 38:03 – Chuck. 38:08 – Dan: Fellow NWRLer, Jack... 38:50 – That stuff exists through web pack, right? 39:20 – Dan: We can’t use it because it’s garbage and I won’t touch it. 39:35 – Dan: I don’t know. We are going to do basically the same thing but prettier. The code will be prettier. 40:10 – Chuck: Aaron, it looks like you put in a request to put in the plug-in. And you did it pretty fast so it’s not hard to do? 40:31 – Probably not formatted properly. 40:40 – Panel and guest go back-and-forth. 40:54 – You have to fix it on the air. It’s a space problem. My line space is too long. 41:07 – Panelists and guest. 41:46 – Dan: Any compliment from Victor makes my life. 41:57 – Panelist: I changed it. 42:05 – Alyssa: Is it green light, green arrow? 42:15 – I am just failing. 42:21 – I used the web editor I really didn’t... 42:30 – Alyssa: It was a space issue. 42:39 – 3 more minutes to go... 42:54 – Chuck sing us a song while we wait. 43:03 – Is there a contributions page for people to contribute? 43:18 – Dan: It tells you exactly how to run it. 43:33 – Chuck: It using some of the web pack tools and the CUI and the command line, I am wondering if it’s possible to add - not extensions to the CUI stuff but - to the console itself? Setup the other things that aren’t Angular specific but are apart of my overall template? Or do you do that through schematics? 44:16 – Dan: There are different ways to approach it. Your personal workflow you probably should integrate it. Like anything else why wouldn’t you keep it the same? 45:42 – Panelist comments. 46:08 – Dan: Have you contributed to Angular before? 46:25 – Chuck: Anything else before Picks? 46:36 – NRWL Connects is our support product to help you with being a more productive Angular developer. 47:24 – Panelists and guest go back-and-forth. 47:41 – I didn’t know NRWL Connects was a thing. If I wasn’t personal friends with Victor and... There have been problems that I have solved because I have smart friends. NRWL Connect is to help those people who don’t have smart friends. People can solve a lot of problems and this is HUGE! 49:03 – Dan: Fingers crossed we are helping integrate Angular Connect to help with Basil. 49:39 – Chuck: Picks! 50:00 – Advertisement – Fresh Books! Links: Vue Angular NRWL NGRX – DATA LAB – GITHUB Angular Console Angular Prettier Schematic Chuck’s Twitter 5 Things about developing on a Mac – Video Real Talk JavaScript King and Queen of the Universe Grinders Dan Muller’s Bio through NRWL Sponsors: Angular Boot Camp Fresh Books Get a Coder Job Course Picks: Alyssa Kendal UI Library component update John Season 2 of 5 Things of JavaScript Podcast - Realtalk JavaScript Aaron Role for Initiative Charles Extreme Ownership Dungeon and Dragons HeroDevs.com Dan Look at the Birdie The King and Queen of the Universe Grinders Boots Screaming Females
Panel: Charles Max Wood Aaron Frost John Papa Alyssa Nicholl Special Guests: Dan Muller In this episode, the Adventures in Angular panel talks with Dan Muller who is a member of the NRWL team and who has developed Angular Console. The panel asks Dan questions about the console and the pros and cons of it. Check out today’s episode! Show Topics: 1:19 – Dan: I work now with NRWL and I used to work at Google and then I got bored writing Angular applications. I then texted a colleague and worked with him and he gave me what is now called 1:52 – Chuck: Nice. Give us the elevator pitch for Angular Console? 2:00 – Dan: It is mostly pretty. 2:19 – Alyssa comments. 2:30 – Dan: To each their own. 2:38 – Dan One of the parts working at Google I would copy and paste the patterns I did at Google. Now we stopped copying and pasting code. If you are newbie there is a learning code and that’s a drag. What it (Angular Console) does it makes it easier for novices for them to know what can you generate and what options are available to you. It makes you feel nice and comforted and holds your hand. It’s a tool for me because I often go fast and it makes sure I don’t do anything wrong. It’s focused, and it keeps me focused. 4:29 – Panelist: I just installed it for the first time. I am working on a project for a client and been doing a lot of NGG things. I am looking at this thing and I can see how it can be pretty helpful with its UI. Get in and try it out. 5:23 – Dan: That’s the generate screen. 5:30 – I have a terminal and it... 5:51 – Dan: As you building up the commands it constantly runs them. It would be insane for you to hit the Enter key and copy and paste, cause we only have 2 hands. As you are doing the commands it will tell you what’s missing. You will have the flags above it and tweak it a little and it comes together. 6:45 – Chuck. 6:53 – Dan: Under the hood it’s running it verbatim. Anything that has an architecture definition every 1/10 sec it...will live update and it sees what projects you have, what apps you have and anything you have with a CI it will present it to you. 7:51 – It has some custom scripts. 8:03 – Alyssa: What did you do to install it? 8:05 - AngularConsole.com Welcome download button and I downloaded it. 8:43 – It’s a tiny file. 8:47 – You are trying your best to make your bundle efficient. 8:57 – Electron app is about the same size. It took only 11 seconds to download for me. 9:11 – Nobody uses Lenox, so... 9:22 – It does some very simple things it can do and chime-in when you want, Dan! I can see all my projects and if you were in a workspace you can see it all. If you have an Angular project you can do a generate component. There is a code generator, and there is a run screen. And in the end – I have a question about extensions? This is really where you can get a bunch of schematics, right? 10:34 – Panelist asks a question. 10:38 – Dan: Not wrong at all. 11:25 – Panelist and Dan go back-and-forth. 11:36 – We should do a show on schematics. 11:43 – You are percolating a few new ones – that’s cool. What would be cool is if you... 12:14 – Dan: Yeah it’s hard coded. We put this together in less than a month. It started in the middle of like October and we just put together and released in 3 weeks. Considering how slow Angular has developed it’s interesting to see... 13:01 – Yeah I am seeing the extensions that reminds me... I like how you can search with these extensions there especially with the filter. 13:21 – Dan: We want to eventually I hope we can surface more things. Not everyone thinks how a designer thinks. We are trivial to discover them maybe they would. He’s very much open to that someday. 14:24 – I want to ask a question. Let’s do a poll request and it’s important to me. I don’t see the file where that lives. 14:41 – Dan: I think there is a pre-existing file. You can base it off of that one. 14:55 – A little context that I have and the one question that keeps coming up is what’s to say that this won’t drive us down a road to only do what NX wants us to do? 15:52 – Dan: It’s tricky. Actually, back when the CUI they were thinking of something very similar to the console and it never happened. Basically before we launched it to the public we wanted to make sure that Angular team was on board with us. Even though we own the repo we wanted Google to sign-off the code. Make sure that they did it the correct way and they have lawyers more so than a start-up does. Eventually they will own...and they will be in charge of the release schedule. But all in all it’s my baby and I won’t give it up. There are extensions... Dan continues this conversation. 18:20 – Yeah so far using the console I can see the NX and finding extensions is hard. Where would you go find it? So this stuff... 18:53 – As long as NX still stays an option than something you MUST choose then... 19:12 – Dan: We decided early on that we didn’t want to shove NX into their face. That console can be useful but useful in another way. What we are building is this way you can reach out to us. We are a consulting company. If you are in the middle of making your app and you see a bug then we are building out a NWRL connect where you can connect with us. 20:12 – Yeah I see that NWRL connect. Do I get you for free? 20:26 – John Papa discount. 20:31 – I usually have to pay him $10,000 a minute! 20:53 – Yeah, he’s a cofounder (Victor). 21:03 – It gives his number and SSN! 21:17 – Alyssa: You said you have a lot of ideas of how console could go, do you have any things in the next steps? 21:32 – Dan: I wasn’t very ambitious when I started the project. It’s not a huge desktop client focus application. I am adding background tasks. Things you can run all the time so you don’t have to click them all the time. 23:17 – Advertisement – Get a coder job! 23:58 – Why would you use this tool? 24:05 – Dan: I have this fun experience when I was making console at first. It didn’t have the command screen and I needed to make a dialogue for creating a new workspace. And I said: Oh Shoot I don’t remember how to generate a module with routing. So instead of Googling...server and opened up Angular Console workspace and generated a component with it and it... 25:11 – Comment. 25:19 – Dan: During auto complete... 26:10 – Panelist: If they want that UI...and when I teach Angular the first thing I teach is the UI. I think UI is a great starting point. I look at the console to see the extensions. 27:09 – The CUI is already abstracting multiple different things. Now you have added a UI to it, I think it will be attractive for different people. I can see people saying I got it, and other people (John Papa) teaching a course, or maybe...certain people will like/don’t like it. 28:12 – I don’t think it’s an either or. 28:20 – Chuck: I would try things on the command line, and then things on the console line and figure out how it works with my flow. If I have 2 tools then I will use 1 for X and the other for Y. 28:47 – Dan comments. 29:17 – Where should people go to voice their ideas? 29:29 – Dan: Some ideas are really, really good! Yeah shoot me a message. 30:19 – You haven’t seen my issues, yet, bro. 30:28 – Chuck: Was it inspired by the... 30:37 – Dan: Shamelessly I steal design all the time. As I develop the Angular Console more I am steering away from their design but... 31:26 – Chuck: Depending on WHO I am talking about there is rivalry between maybe Vue and Angular and whatever. I like the idea of sharing to show the mature elements to bring in what I am doing. 31:59 – The main difference is the implementation is electron and web app and tell us pros and cons and why? 32:14 – Dan: We could have done it either way. It looked more beautiful in my dock. Having it be an honest to goodness app and not having to open a terminal and fire it up, it didn’t feel professional or good. There is a little bit of professionalism there. 33:42 – Chuck: I agree with that. 33:48 – I like that it is web and that it’s a web application. It’s nice to have a web app open. 34:06 – Dan comments. Dan: Discoverability is there. There are 2 servers and you could load it up and open it up in Chrome. We don’t use a lot of electronic UPIS because you are just running your terminal. 34:56 – Chuck comments. 35:02 – I just put the 7’s in there and there it is! 35:11 – Dan: Theoretically, it is useful. That’s good. 35:19 – What port? 35:40 – Chuck, panel and guest go back-and-forth. 36:06 – Seems like a good idea. 36:13 – Hacker News. 36:17 – Dan: That’s the dream – my life would be made as a developer. 36:38 – Chuck. 36:55 – I submitted a PR in there and looks like you are still getting help with this. I am a fan of this tool. People will love this. 37:15 – Dan: We have more things that we want to add it - it to make it more attractive. We are making it official we are... 37:54 – There are people that kill NWRLs. 38:03 – Chuck. 38:08 – Dan: Fellow NWRLer, Jack... 38:50 – That stuff exists through web pack, right? 39:20 – Dan: We can’t use it because it’s garbage and I won’t touch it. 39:35 – Dan: I don’t know. We are going to do basically the same thing but prettier. The code will be prettier. 40:10 – Chuck: Aaron, it looks like you put in a request to put in the plug-in. And you did it pretty fast so it’s not hard to do? 40:31 – Probably not formatted properly. 40:40 – Panel and guest go back-and-forth. 40:54 – You have to fix it on the air. It’s a space problem. My line space is too long. 41:07 – Panelists and guest. 41:46 – Dan: Any compliment from Victor makes my life. 41:57 – Panelist: I changed it. 42:05 – Alyssa: Is it green light, green arrow? 42:15 – I am just failing. 42:21 – I used the web editor I really didn’t... 42:30 – Alyssa: It was a space issue. 42:39 – 3 more minutes to go... 42:54 – Chuck sing us a song while we wait. 43:03 – Is there a contributions page for people to contribute? 43:18 – Dan: It tells you exactly how to run it. 43:33 – Chuck: It using some of the web pack tools and the CUI and the command line, I am wondering if it’s possible to add - not extensions to the CUI stuff but - to the console itself? Setup the other things that aren’t Angular specific but are apart of my overall template? Or do you do that through schematics? 44:16 – Dan: There are different ways to approach it. Your personal workflow you probably should integrate it. Like anything else why wouldn’t you keep it the same? 45:42 – Panelist comments. 46:08 – Dan: Have you contributed to Angular before? 46:25 – Chuck: Anything else before Picks? 46:36 – NRWL Connects is our support product to help you with being a more productive Angular developer. 47:24 – Panelists and guest go back-and-forth. 47:41 – I didn’t know NRWL Connects was a thing. If I wasn’t personal friends with Victor and... There have been problems that I have solved because I have smart friends. NRWL Connect is to help those people who don’t have smart friends. People can solve a lot of problems and this is HUGE! 49:03 – Dan: Fingers crossed we are helping integrate Angular Connect to help with Basil. 49:39 – Chuck: Picks! 50:00 – Advertisement – Fresh Books! Links: Vue Angular NRWL NGRX – DATA LAB – GITHUB Angular Console Angular Prettier Schematic Chuck’s Twitter 5 Things about developing on a Mac – Video Real Talk JavaScript King and Queen of the Universe Grinders Dan Muller’s Bio through NRWL Sponsors: Angular Boot Camp Fresh Books Get a Coder Job Course Picks: Alyssa Kendal UI Library component update John Season 2 of 5 Things of JavaScript Podcast - Realtalk JavaScript Aaron Role for Initiative Charles Extreme Ownership Dungeon and Dragons HeroDevs.com Dan Look at the Birdie The King and Queen of the Universe Grinders Boots Screaming Females
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