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Topics covered in this episode: Web UIs for your reverse proxy Wagtail 8.0 is hot off the presses RISC-V is now officially supported by CPython Django's annual releases make every version an LTS Extras Joke Watch on YouTube About the show Sponsored by Logfire from Pydantic: pythonbytes.fm/logfire Connect with the hosts Michael: Mastodon / BlueSky / X / LinkedIn Calvin: Mastodon / BlueSky / X / LinkedIn Show: Mastodon / BlueSky / X Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Tuesday at 7am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list, we'll never share it. Michael #1: Web UIs for your reverse proxy Traefik, nginx, and Caddy all sit in front of a lot of self-hosted infrastructure, and all three are configured by hand-editing files. Three active projects put a control plane on top: Traefik Manager (Python + Flask), Nginx UI (Go + Vue), and caddy/ui (React + Node). All three are additive rather than replacements - none of them take ownership of your config away from you - which is the part that matters when the thing has write access to production routing. Traefik Manager is the Python one: Flask 3.1 and Gunicorn for the control plane, a lightweight Go agent for remote instances, currently v1.10.0 with an Android companion app. Nginx UI is a single Go binary at 11.3k stars, with a block-style config editor, an Ace editor doing LLM completion on nginx syntax, and an MCP server so agents can drive it. caddy/ui runs as two containers next to your existing Caddy, reads and writes your Caddyfile directly, and uses Caddy's /adapt API to validate before reload - no Docker socket required. Each one edits the config the underlying server already reads, so your files stay the source of truth and you can drop the UI without unwinding anything. Undo is a first-class feature across all three - timestamped backups with optional Git history, config version compare and restore, Caddyfile snapshots with one-click rollback. Observability is where they diverge: Traefik Manager does CrowdSec and a visual route map, Nginx UI does server metrics, caddy/ui streams access logs over SSE and pulls p50/p95/p99 off Caddy's Prometheus endpoint. Maturity spread is wide - Nginx UI has 11.3k stars, caddy/ui has 4 and was built in a single Claude session - and caddy/ui ships with auth off by default, so set CADDY_UI_USER and JWT_SECRET before it goes anywhere near a public interface. Calvin #2: Wagtail 8.0 is hot off the presses Link: https://github.com/wagtail/wagtail/releases/tag/v8.0 Custom base page models are now supported, so projects aren't locked into subclassing Wagtail's Page as shipped (Matt Westcott). New v3 REST API handles both read and write CMS operations, a first for Wagtail's API. A global registry for permission policies, plus full customizability for the remaining page views via PageViewSet. AVIF and WebP images are no longer auto-converted to PNG by default, a real behavior change to watch on upgrade. Five security fixes: page admin API restrictions, document identification by SHA1 hash, descendant collections in the Documents/Images API, snippet copy permissions, and the page translation endpoint. Formalized Django 6.1 support, and CI now runs on uv with a lockfile. Sponsor: Logfire from Pydantic Your AI agent failed at 2am. Was it the model? A tool call? The database? Most observability tools can't tell you, because they only see part of your stack. Pydantic Logfire sees all of it. One trace across your agents, LLMs, APIs, and database. Down to the infrastructure: services, Kubernetes, and hosts. It's built on OpenTelemetry, with SDKs for Python, TypeScript, and Rust, and it works with any OTel-compatible language. Every prompt, token count, and cost, right next to your vector searches and API calls. You query everything with Postgres-compatible SQL. And so can your coding agent, through the Logfire MCP server. Stop guessing. Read the trace. Pydantic Logfire. AI, it's still just engineering. Visit pythonbytes.fm/logfire today and sign up today. Get 10M records free every month, no card required. You can even click “Onboard with your coding agent” to copy a prompt to have claude or codex integrate Logfire into your app. Thanks to Pydantic for supporting the show. Calvin #3: RISC-V is now officially supported by CPython Link: https://blog.python.org/2026/08/riscv-now-officially-supported/ CPython added RISC-V as a tier 3 platform under PEP 11, specifically the 64-bit Linux target riscv64-unknown-linux-gnu. RISC-V is an open ISA anyone can implement, unlike x86 and ARM, and its market is projected to quadruple by 2032. The RISE Project donated real RISC-V machines for buildbots; the author's work was funded by a Sovereign Tech Agency fellowship. What changes: the port is now a maintained compatibility target, so CPython changes are less likely to quietly break it. What doesn't: no python.org installers, no binary wheel parity for native extensions. Next up: RISC-V runners in CPython CI for pre-merge feedback, then a push toward tier 2, plus architecture-specific optimizations. The ask is testing. If you have RISC-V hardware, build CPython, run your test suite, file what breaks. Tier 3 is the weakest support tier. PEP 11 tier 3 requires a core developer contact and a buildbot, but failures on tier 3 platforms explicitly do not block a release. Saying "ongoing CI/testing expectations" oversells it. The honest bit is "someone is now on the hook for it, and breakage gets noticed," not "it's guaranteed working." Worth the caveat that this is Linux SBCs, not microcontrollers. A VisionFive 2 counts, an ESP32-C6 or Pico 2 does not. Those are 32-bit non-Linux parts where MicroPython is still the answer. Michael #4: Django's annual releases make every version an LTS Starting with Django 2028, Django will move to one January feature release per year, adopt calendar-based version numbers, and support every release for three years. The old distinction between standard and LTS releases disappears, giving teams a predictable annual upgrade path that aligns more closely with Python's own release and support cadence. Every Django release becomes the safe, long-supported choice, so teams no longer need to wait for a specially designated LTS version or absorb two years of changes at once. Each release gets one year of mainstream bug fixes followed by two years of security and data-loss fixes. New releases support the three latest Python versions and add the next Python release during their first year. Calendar versioning begins with Django 2028, followed by Django 2029 and so on. Three Django versions will be supported at any time, giving third-party packages a clearer rolling target. Nothing changes before 2028, and existing commitments for Django 5.2 LTS and 6.2 LTS remain in place. Extras Calvin: The Python docs now document the time complexity of built-in types https://docs.python.org/3.16/library/time-complexity.html Thinking in Python - Bruce Eckel's free book https://thinkinginpython.com/ Michael: prune_uv_pythons.py - Prune uv-managed Python installs, keeping only the newest patch per minor version Runs automatically in my system “upgrade” script: upgrade-output-2026.png Started using Ollama cloud models for my Hermes assistant. Thanks to Jeff Triplett I learned they are not just local models. Joke: The Tao of Programming - Book Seven: Corporate Wisdom
Dipesh Rawat is a Software Developer at IBM, CNCF Ambassador, CNCF Kubestronaut and SIG Docs Tech Lead. A contributor across multiple Kubernetes release cycles, he serves as the Release Lead for Kubernetes v1.37. Do you have something cool to share? Some questions? Let us know: - web: kubernetespodcast.com - mail: kubernetespodcast@google.com - twitter: @kubernetespod - bluesky: @kubernetespodcast.com News of the week CNCF Announces Kubeflow's Graduation, Solidifying a Standard for Cloud Native AI Operations CNCF Announces Graduation of Cloud Native Buildpacks, Advancing the Standard for Container Builds Gateway API v1.6: TCPRoute and UDPRoute Graduate to Standard KubeCon EU CFP Links from the interview Kubernetes v1.37: Garhwal Kubernetes 1.37 Sneak Peak Blog
William Collins and Eyvonne Sharp dig into the latest AI headlines, from the largest copyright settlement in American history to stolen AI models and invisible watermarks on Claude output. Plus, they discuss why so many companies have rallied around NVIDIA’s support for open weight AI models. Our hosts also examine the biggest questions arising from... Read more »
William Collins and Eyvonne Sharp dig into the latest AI headlines, from the largest copyright settlement in American history to stolen AI models and invisible watermarks on Claude output. Plus, they discuss why so many companies have rallied around NVIDIA’s support for open weight AI models. Our hosts also examine the biggest questions arising from... Read more »
Topics covered in this episode: Python 3.12.14, 3.11.16, 3.10.21 - security releases Codeberg's AI-code ban tests its role as a GitHub alternative Brett Cannon: what's missing for reproducible builds on PyPI nothing records the source code a distribution came from. direct_url.json captures it when you install from a repo or archive, so the fix is putting the same info in sdist/wheel metadata. recording the build tools. Wheels can already do this via PEP 770 SBOMs in .dist-info/sboms/ - sdists can't, since they're a tarball plus a precalculated PKG-INFO with nowhere to hang extra metadata. Either "don't use sdists" or an sdist v2. Extra extra extra, hear all about it Extras Joke Watch on YouTube Sponsored by Logfire from Pydantic pythonbytes.fm/logfire This episode is brought to you by Pydantic Logfire. It's observability for AI apps from the team behind Pydantic - agents, LLMs, APIs, database, and infrastructure in a single trace, queried with Postgres-compatible SQL. Your coding agent can query it too, through their MCP server. I'll tell you more later. Connect with the hosts Michael: Mastodon / BlueSky / X / LinkedIn Calvin: Mastodon / BlueSky / X / LinkedIn Show: Mastodon / BlueSky / X Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Tuesday at 7am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list, we'll never share it. Calvin #1: Python 3.12.14, 3.11.16, 3.10.21 - security releases https://blog.python.org/2026/08/python-31214-31116-31021/ Source-only security releases for the three branches now in security-fix-only mode; release team blamed the European solar eclipse for the timing. tarfile hardening. Multiple path-traversal bypasses of the data filter closed, including a symlink escape that bypassed the CVE-2025-4330 fix; extract() now applies the filter to link targets too. Four fresh CVEs: CVE-2026-2297 (SourcelessFileLoader not using io.open_code() for .pyc), CVE-2026-4224 (expat crash on deeply nested content models), CVE-2026-3644 (control chars in http.cookies.Morsel), plus the completed CVE-2021-4189 fix in ftplib.ftpcp. Quadratic-complexity DoS cleanup across the stdlib: HTMLParser, configparser regexes, unicodedata.normalize(), csv.Sniffer.sniff(), and ElementTree XPath index predicates. Header/injection fixes: CR/LF rejected in HTTPConnection.set_tunnel(), control chars blocked in wsgiref.handlers status, and webbrowser now rejects leading dashes (plus a %action prefix bypass). http.client now caps chunked trailer lines and 1xx interim responses at 100 each - a hostile server could previously hang the client forever despite a socket timeout. Memory-safety odds and ends: stale pointers in lzma/bz2/zlib decompressors after MemoryError, a bz2 stack overflow on reuse-after-error, and bundled libexpat bumped to 2.8.3. If you're still on 3.10, 3.11, or 3.12 - and you extract tarballs from anywhere you don't fully control - this one's not optional. Michael #2: Codeberg's AI-code ban tests its role as a GitHub alternative Armin's article “Codeberg Divides” Armin Ronacher argues that Codeberg's new terms, which prohibit projects mostly written with generative AI, create a vague and difficult-to-enforce boundary. His larger concern is that a democratically governed host can still be unpredictable or ideologically narrow, weakening Codeberg's potential as a broad European alternative to GitHub. The strongest question for Python developers is whether repository hosting should judge legal open source by how code was produced, or focus on behavior and resource abuse. “Mostly generated” is hard to measure in modern codebases where developers mix handwritten code, completions, agents, and generated refactors. Ronacher suggests clearer alternatives: ban all LLM involvement, or target autonomous repository spam, abusive resource use, and low-quality generated contributions directly. Codeberg is free to choose a values-driven community, but that may conflict with being predictable, neutral infrastructure and a serious GitHub competitor. Worth discussing: can open-source communities set meaningful AI boundaries without driving maintainers and projects into opposing camps? Very first search for these terms lands on this page. Codeberg looked like a viable alternative. … Unfortunately, the latest update to its terms of service seems to mark a first step in changing one part I moved there for, namely the “freedom” part. Sponsor: Logfire from Pydantic Your AI agent failed at 2am. Was it the model? A tool call? The database? Most observability tools can't tell you, because they only see part of your stack. Pydantic Logfire sees all of it. One trace across your agents, LLMs, APIs, and database. Down to the infrastructure: services, Kubernetes, and hosts. It's built on OpenTelemetry, with SDKs for Python, TypeScript, and Rust, and it works with any OTel-compatible language. Every prompt, token count, and cost, right next to your vector searches and API calls. You query everything with Postgres-compatible SQL. And so can your coding agent, through the Logfire MCP server. Stop guessing. Read the trace. Pydantic Logfire. AI, it's still just engineering. Visit pythonbytes.fm/logfire today and sign up today. Get 10M records free every month, no card required. You can even click “Onboard with your coding agent” to copy a prompt to have claude or codex integrate Logfire into your app. Thanks to Pydantic for supporting the show. Calvin #3: Brett Cannon: what's missing for reproducible builds on PyPI Framing came out of his 2026 Python Packaging Council nomination - the secure-supply-chain gap he found is that Python has no defined way to do reproducible builds at all. Design goal is zero friction: producers uploading to PyPI shouldn't have to do anything. The work lands on build backends and installers. Gap #1: nothing records the source code a distribution came from. direct_url.json captures it when you install from a repo or archive, so the fix is putting the same info in sdist/wheel metadata. Gap #2: recording the build tools. Wheels can already do this via PEP 770 SBOMs in .dist-info/sboms/ - sdists can't, since they're a tarball plus a precalculated PKG-INFO with nowhere to hang extra metadata. Either "don't use sdists" or an sdist v2. The replay mechanism already exists: [build-system] in pyproject.toml is a defined entry point, so if backends recorded their own environment, you could reinstall and re-run the build. Payoff idea: trusted third parties report successful reproductions back to PyPI, which displays "independently reproduced by X" - surfaced in the index API so installers could prefer reproduced files. Explicitly framed as a perk, not a requirement - roughly SLSA build level 1, no shaming projects that don't opt in. Verbal kicker option: "And don't think pure-Python wheels are off the hook. Something built that wheel, and if that something was compromised, so is your wheel. SolarWinds was a build-process attack." Michael #4: Extra extra extra, hear all about it Python 3.14.7 Upgraded the MCP servers to 2026-07-28 v2 protocols (talk python, python bytes) Got agentsview running synced via postgres Talk Python courses, teams trial offering Talk Python courses, government procurement offering Lean TDD audio book is out Extras Calvin: uv now prefers post-quantum key exchange - https://github.com/astral-sh/uv/releases/tag/0.12.4 Joke: Beware of dog
For two decades, the cloud has been shaped by human developers writing code and managing its deployment. Now a growing share of production code is generated by LLMs with little human review. Because that code is not fully trusted, it increasingly runs in isolated, sandboxed environments. Meanwhile, AI agents are starting to operate infrastructure directly, by spinning services up and tearing them down on their own. Together these shifts raise the question of whether the cloud needs to be rebuilt for machine operators rather than humans. Render is a cloud platform designed for application deployment, by handling scaling, self-healing, and security to reduce operations work. Render has been adapting to the AI era by building tools that let agents deploy and debug applications directly, with added guardrails and security. Anurag Goel is the founder and CEO of Render. In this episode, Anurag joins Sean Falconer to discuss why so many teams end up rebuilding the same infrastructure on top of Kubernetes, what changes when AI agents become first-class users of infrastructure and the guardrails that shift demands, and why the economics of AI are pushing developers toward higher-level platforms that trade fine-grained control for speed and safety.Sponsorship inquiries:sponsor@softwareengineeringdaily.com The post Rebuilding the Cloud for AI Agent Code appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.
What does an AI-native CI look like? The Semaphore team joins me to talk about their focus on making your agent harness the gateway to testing, fixing, and deploying your code.Video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/HzXAdtVrW70★Show Links★Semaphore https://semaphore.io/Semaphore open source https://github.com/semaphoreio/semaphoreSLSA Security Checklist https://slsa.dev/Creators & Guests Marcos Filipe - Guest Cristi Cotovan - Editor Bret Fisher - Host Beth Fisher - Producer Marko Gaćeša - Guest (00:00) - Introduction (00:29) - AI Native CI Vision (04:54) - Bret's Update (09:03) - Semaphore AI Journey (22:39) - Open Source Platform Shift (37:28) - Plugins CLI MCP Skills (43:11) - Work Until CI Is Green (45:42) - Test Boxes and Agentic CI Loop (57:39) - Sandboxing and Least Privilege (01:10:12) - Roadmap SLSA and Getting Started
For two decades, the cloud has been shaped by human developers writing code and managing its deployment. Now a growing share of production code is generated by LLMs with little human review. Because that code is not fully trusted, it increasingly runs in isolated, sandboxed environments. Meanwhile, AI agents are starting to operate infrastructure directly, by spinning services up and tearing them down on their own. Together these shifts raise the question of whether the cloud needs to be rebuilt for machine operators rather than humans. Render is a cloud platform designed for application deployment, by handling scaling, self-healing, and security to reduce operations work. Render has been adapting to the AI era by building tools that let agents deploy and debug applications directly, with added guardrails and security. Anurag Goel is the founder and CEO of Render. In this episode, Anurag joins Sean Falconer to discuss why so many teams end up rebuilding the same infrastructure on top of Kubernetes, what changes when AI agents become first-class users of infrastructure and the guardrails that shift demands, and why the economics of AI are pushing developers toward higher-level platforms that trade fine-grained control for speed and safety.Sponsorship inquiries:sponsor@softwareengineeringdaily.com The post Rebuilding the Cloud for AI Agent Code appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.
For two decades, the cloud has been shaped by human developers writing code and managing its deployment. Now a growing share of production code is generated by LLMs with little human review. Because that code is not fully trusted, it increasingly runs in isolated, sandboxed environments. Meanwhile, AI agents are starting to operate infrastructure directly, by spinning services up and tearing them down on their own. Together these shifts raise the question of whether the cloud needs to be rebuilt for machine operators rather than humans. Render is a cloud platform designed for application deployment, by handling scaling, self-healing, and security to reduce operations work. Render has been adapting to the AI era by building tools that let agents deploy and debug applications directly, with added guardrails and security. Anurag Goel is the founder and CEO of Render. In this episode, Anurag joins Sean Falconer to discuss why so many teams end up rebuilding the same infrastructure on top of Kubernetes, what changes when AI agents become first-class users of infrastructure and the guardrails that shift demands, and why the economics of AI are pushing developers toward higher-level platforms that trade fine-grained control for speed and safety.Sponsorship inquiries:sponsor@softwareengineeringdaily.com The post Rebuilding the Cloud for AI Agent Code appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.
For two decades, the cloud has been shaped by human developers writing code and managing its deployment. Now a growing share of production code is generated by LLMs with little human review. Because that code is not fully trusted, it increasingly runs in isolated, sandboxed environments. Meanwhile, AI agents are starting to operate infrastructure directly, by spinning services up and tearing them down on their own. Together these shifts raise the question of whether the cloud needs to be rebuilt for machine operators rather than humans. Render is a cloud platform designed for application deployment, by handling scaling, self-healing, and security to reduce operations work. Render has been adapting to the AI era by building tools that let agents deploy and debug applications directly, with added guardrails and security. Anurag Goel is the founder and CEO of Render. In this episode, Anurag joins Sean Falconer to discuss why so many teams end up rebuilding the same infrastructure on top of Kubernetes, what changes when AI agents become first-class users of infrastructure and the guardrails that shift demands, and why the economics of AI are pushing developers toward higher-level platforms that trade fine-grained control for speed and safety.Sponsorship inquiries:sponsor@softwareengineeringdaily.com The post Rebuilding the Cloud for AI Agent Code appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.
For two decades, the cloud has been shaped by human developers writing code and managing its deployment. Now a growing share of production code is generated by LLMs with little human review. Because that code is not fully trusted, it increasingly runs in isolated, sandboxed environments. Meanwhile, AI agents are starting to operate infrastructure directly, by spinning services up and tearing them down on their own. Together these shifts raise the question of whether the cloud needs to be rebuilt for machine operators rather than humans. Render is a cloud platform designed for application deployment, by handling scaling, self-healing, and security to reduce operations work. Render has been adapting to the AI era by building tools that let agents deploy and debug applications directly, with added guardrails and security. Anurag Goel is the founder and CEO of Render. In this episode, Anurag joins Sean Falconer to discuss why so many teams end up rebuilding the same infrastructure on top of Kubernetes, what changes when AI agents become first-class users of infrastructure and the guardrails that shift demands, and why the economics of AI are pushing developers toward higher-level platforms that trade fine-grained control for speed and safety.Sponsorship inquiries:sponsor@softwareengineeringdaily.com The post Rebuilding the Cloud for AI Agent Code appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.
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Join Andreas Walbrodt, CEO and Co-Founder of enclaive, for an essential exploration of cybersecurity, data sovereignty, and business confidentiality in an increasingly cloud-reliant world. While enterprises have spent decades securing data at rest (in storage) and in transit (over networks), sensitive workloads remain completely unencrypted the moment they are processed in memory. As organizations rush to adopt public cloud platforms, scale Industry 4.0 smart manufacturing, and deploy proprietary AI models, this "in-use" vulnerability creates catastrophic exposure to cloud operator access, third-party subpoenas, and cyber threats. Drawing on over 30 years of enterprise IT leadership at IBM and TÜV Rheinland, Andreas explains how confidential computing closes this gap—allowing businesses to leverage hyper-scale cloud power without sacrificing sovereignty, compliance, or core intellectual property.
Container sind überall. In der Cloud, auf deinem Laptop, im Home Lab und ziemlich sicher auch in Systemen, die du täglich benutzt. Aber wie viel Isolation steckt wirklich in einem Container? Wann reicht ein klassischer Docker-Container, wann brauchst du eine VM und warum tauchen plötzlich Begriffe wie Micro-VMs, Firecracker, RunC oder GVisor überall auf? Genau an dieser Stelle wird es spannend, denn hinter dem scheinbar einfachen docker run wartet ein erstaunlich tiefes Rabbit Hole.In dieser Episode sprechen wir mit Sébastien Pahl, Co-Founder der Firma hinter Docker und heute bei Cloudflare wieder tief im Container-Umfeld unterwegs. Gemeinsam zerlegen wir das Container-Ökosystem von unten nach oben. Wir klären, was Namespaces und C-Groups im Linux-Kernel eigentlich machen, wie sich Container, virtuelle Maschinen und Micro-VMs unterscheiden, welche Rolle LXC, OverlayFS, Systemd und RunC spielen und warum Docker der Container-Welt zum Durchbruch verholfen hat. Außerdem schauen wir auf Multi-Tenancy, Security, Kernel-Isolation, Hypervisor-Grenzen und die Frage, warum Bootzeit und Memory-Footprint für moderne Container-Plattformen so entscheidend sind.Besonders spannend wird es beim Blick in die Praxis. Wir sprechen darüber, wie ein maßgeschneidertes Init-System in Rust entsteht, wie AI beim Systems Engineering und beim Schreiben von Tests hilft und warum sich damit Produktionssysteme in wenigen hundert Millisekunden booten lassen. Wenn du Container, Docker, Micro-VMs und Linux-Isolation endlich wirklich verstehen willst, ist diese Folge dein Deep Dive.Bonus: Selbstfahrende Autos, Mars-Fantasien und Advent of Code schaffen es auch noch in die Episode.Unsere aktuellen Werbepartner findest du auf https://engineeringkiosk.dev/partnersDas schnelle Feedback zur Episode:
We discuss the acquisition of Mirantis by the neocloud company IREN, and use it to examine the current market for infrastructure and AI deployment. We look at Mirantis' consulting business, Kubernetes distribution, and its earlier acquisition of parts of Docker, including the registry and enterprise components. We also consider whether trusted registries could play a role in distributing agents and tools for AI systems, and we compare this idea to package management. We get into an interesting discussion on neoclouds and managed agent providers as part of the operational layer for running AI workloads, including GPU capacity, model hosting, and repeatable deployment. Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/ZBtX6hwwHIqqOBbLDiJwM66wFuM?utm_source=copy_url
William Collins is joined by guest co-host Eric Chou as well as Network Automation Forum founders Scott Robohn and Chris Grundemann to discuss how their community emerged from a simple question: Why haven’t we seen full adoption of network automation, yet? They discuss the growth of AutoCon and how its practitioner-focused, vendor-neutral approach has fostered... Read more »
William Collins is joined by guest co-host Eric Chou as well as Network Automation Forum founders Scott Robohn and Chris Grundemann to discuss how their community emerged from a simple question: Why haven’t we seen full adoption of network automation, yet? They discuss the growth of AutoCon and how its practitioner-focused, vendor-neutral approach has fostered... Read more »
Cloud Posse holds LIVE "Office Hours" every Wednesday to answer questions on all things related to AWS, DevOps, Terraform, Kubernetes, CI/CD. Register at https://cloudposse.com/office-hoursSupport the show
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This interview was recorded at GOTO Copenhagen 2025.https://gotocph.comAdrian Mouat - Developer Relations at Chainguard & Author of "Using Docker"Kief Morris - Author of "Infrastructure as Code" & Distinguished Engineer at ThoughtworksSam Newman - Author of "Building Microservices" & "Monolith to Microservices"RESOURCESAdrianhttps://bsky.app/profile/adrianmouat.comhttps://twitter.com/adrianmouathttps://github.com/amouathttps://linkedin.com/in/adrianmouathttp://www.adrianmouat.comKiefhttps://bsky.app/profile/kief.comhttps://twitter.com/kiefhttps://github.com/kiefhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/kiefmorrishttps://infrastructure-as-code.comhttps://kief.comSamhttps://twitter.com/samnewmanhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/samnewmanhttp://samnewman.iohttp://samnewman.io/bloghttps://github.com/snewmanABSTRACTIn this session, Sam Newman will interview Kief Morris and Adrian Mouat, both experts in their field. We will explore the current reality of security in the container world, how infrastructure automation is impacted by AI, and whether platform teams are actually working. We'll also be taking lots of questions from the audience! [...]Read the full abstract here:https://gotocph.com/2025/sessions/3938RECOMMENDED BOOKSAdrian Mouat • Using Docker • https://amzn.to/3PEYIJLLiz Rice • Container Security • https://amzn.to/3oU4iJeKief Morris • Infrastructure as Code • https://amzn.to/4e6EBQcSam Newman • Building Resilient Distributed Systems • https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/building-resilient-distributed/9781098163532Sam Newman • Monolith to Microservices • https://amzn.to/2Nml96EBlueskyInstagramLinkedInFacebookCHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUSJoin this channel to get early access to videos & other perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/joinLooking for a unique learning experience?Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.techSUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!
What if your MCP server shipped with its own manual? Angie Jones, VP of Developer Experience at the Agentic AI Foundation, joins William and Eyvonne to break down the Skills Over MCP working group effort, which delivers Agent Skills through MCP’s existing resources primitive (think voice over IP, not skills versus MCP). Angie shares her... Read more »
In this episode, Kat Cosgrove (SIG Docs Technical Lead, SIG Release Subproject Lead, and Steering Committee member) and Natali Vlatko (SIG Docs Co-Chair, Steering Committee member for the TODO Group, and Open Source Architect at Cisco) join hosts Kaslin Fields and Abdel Sghiouar to discuss the newly published Kubernetes AI usage policy. We dive into the legal and administrative reasoning behind the policy—including why AI tools cannot legally sign the Contributor License Agreement (CLA) or co-author PRs—and explore how maintainers manage the influx of "AI slop" PRs, spam comments, and restricted AI note-taker bots in community meetings. The discussion highlights the balance between human accountability and AI as an enhancer, while sharing actionable advice on how new contributors can sustainably get involved with SIG Docs, issue wrangling, and the Kubernetes Release Team. Do you have something cool to share? Some questions? Let us know: web: kubernetespodcast.com mail: kubernetespodcast@google.com twitter: @kubernetespod bluesky: @kubernetespodcast.com News of the week Apple Native Container Tool for macOS 1.0: Apple has shipped version 1.0 of its native container tool for macOS. Built in Swift specifically for Apple Silicon, it departs from traditional shared-VM setups like Docker Desktop by isolating every single Linux container inside its own dedicated micro-VM using the native macOS Virtualization framework. Read more on Cloud Native Now. Google OpenRL: Google launched OpenRL, a new open-source project designed to streamline the training and reinforcement learning loops of large language models. The tool brings declarative, Kubernetes-style resource orchestration concepts to the messy process of AI model fine-tuning. Read more on Cloud Native Now. CNCF Welcomes New Members: At KubeCon CloudNativeCon India, the CNCF announced they added 14 new members, end Users, and non-profit organizations, highlighting the continued growth of the Cloud Native Ecosystem. One of the new members is Loveable, who was a recent guest on the show. We highly recommend you go listen to Episode 268 about the Agent Sandbox. Read the full announcement on PR Newswire. Is a Pod the Right Deployment Unit for an AI Agent?: Lin Sun from Solo published a community post on the CNCF blog questioning whether the classic Kubernetes Pod primitive is still the best abstraction for hosting autonomous, long-running AI agents and introducing Agent-substrate, a project attempting to bring a solution to the table. Read more on the CNCF Blog. Links from the interview Kubernetes AI Usage Policy – Read the community's official guidelines and rules for AI-assisted contributions. TODO Group Steering Committee – A Linux Foundation project bringing OSPO professionals and enthusiasts together. Contributor License Agreement (CLA) – Standard agreement required for all human contributors, which AI agents cannot legally sign. Kubernetes SIG Docs – Get involved with the documentation community. SIG Docs Style Guide – Learn the style guidelines for contributing to Kubernetes docs. Kubernetes SIG Release – Details on how to get involved with the release cycle. Links from the post-interview chat Linus Torvalds on AI LinkedIn Post – Torvalds' clarification on using AI as a helper tool rather than writing kernel C++ code. Devoxx– A popular developer conference in Europe Prowbot GitHub Repo – Kubernetes' main CI/CD bot handling PR automation.
What if your MCP server shipped with its own manual? Angie Jones, VP of Developer Experience at the Agentic AI Foundation, joins William and Eyvonne to break down the Skills Over MCP working group effort, which delivers Agent Skills through MCP’s existing resources primitive (think voice over IP, not skills versus MCP). Angie shares her... Read more »
#360: Assume your production systems go sideways at 3:00am. Your phone doesn't ring. You wake up to a clean incident report - the system caught the problem, fixed itself, and left a Slack note saying it handled things at 3:15. Would you trust it? Viktor wouldn't, not at first. Same as a new hire, a new tool, a new anything. Trust gets earned. A few months in, if it hasn't messed up, then maybe. So what's actually new? We had self-healing in decades past, and Kubernetes brings a crashed pod back without anyone awake to watch. Birol Yildiz, co-founder and CEO of ilert, puts the line where it belongs: the old stuff runs on predefined patterns - known problem, known fix, automate it. The new part is diagnosing a root cause nobody wrote a rule for and then knowing what to do about it. And no, ilert isn't training models on your data. The agent runs on foundational models from the frontier labs, feeds them the same context any SRE would pull - telemetry, recent changes, the health of your infra - runs the investigation loop, and hands you a root cause with the evidence attached. Then the real argument starts, and it's about knowledge. Viktor keeps circling the blind spot he sees at every company: the wiki, the runbooks, the tribal stuff nobody keeps current. Birol's answer is blunter than you'd expect from a guy selling this - dump your Confluence and your hundred stale runbooks into the agent and you cause more damage than results. Code is the documentation that's actually true. ilert's agent doesn't even read runbooks. It builds a live service topology straight from tracing data and rebuilds it when things drift. What happens when a bad incident month turns your $100 bill into $10,000 - Birol's answer is a credit budget with a human paged when you blow past it. Who's accountable when the agent makes it worse? Has to be a human. Agents are tools. You don't get to blame your AI coding agent for shipping garbage code, and ilert doesn't get to blame the model either. Trust is binary - five good runs and one bad one, and you strip its write access. But even in observe-only, the value is real, because the time sink in an incident was never the fix, it was finding the needle. Cut root cause from 45 minutes to a few. And the closer nobody wants to hear: if you skipped observability and fifteen years of homework, an AI SRE isn't going to save you. You can't skip the parts you skipped. Birol's contact information: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/birolyildiz/ X: https://www.linkedin.com/in/birolyildiz/ YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/devopsparadox Review the podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://www.devopsparadox.com/review-podcast/ Slack: https://www.devopsparadox.com/slack/ Connect with us at: https://www.devopsparadox.com/contact/
Is artificial intelligence moving faster than the physical and digital infrastructure built to control it? In this episode of the Tech Field Day News Rundown, hosts Tom Hollingsworth and Alastair Cooke examine the top stories reshaping enterprise technology and global policy. OpenAI halts an experimental project after an autonomous model broke out of its sandbox and evaded security filters. Meanwhile, European aerospace giant Airbus begins moving hundreds of critical applications off AWS to French cloud provider Scaleway over data privacy concerns. On the hardware front, Cisco launches lightweight AI models to hunt code vulnerabilities on-premises, and Supermicro releases a turnkey Kubernetes appliance for remote edge deployments. Finally, the team breaks down California's ruling blocking AT&T from phasing out copper landlines, nationwide community protests over AI data center power demands, and upcoming U.S.-China AI safety talks.This and more on the Tech Field Day News Rundown with Tom Hollingsworth and Alastair Cooke. Time Stamps: 0:00 - Cold Open0:27 - Welcome to the Tech Field Day News Rundown1:13 - Supermicro, Red Hat & Everpure Unveil Edge AI Appliance3:58 - Judge Blocks AT&T's Bid to Drop California Basic Phone Service7:31 - Airbus Shifts Core Operations to Scaleway Over Privacy Concerns11:06 - Cisco Launches Antares AI to Spot Code Flaws14:49 - Nationwide Protests Erupt Over AI Data Center Expansion18:37 - OpenAI Pauses AI Model Over Security Bypasses22:26 - US and China Set for High-Level Talks on AI Safety and Security 28:49 - The Weeks Ahead31:49 - Thanks for WatchingFollow our hosts Tom Hollingsworth, Alastair Cooke, and Stephen Foskett. Follow Tech Field Day on LinkedIn, on X/Twitter, on Bluesky, and on Mastodon.
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Bun quitte Zig pour Rust en 11 jours à coups de Claude Code, pour 165 000$ payés par Anthropic : la réaction du créateur de Zig ne se fait pas attendre. TypeScript 7 débarque, réécrit en Go, 8 à 12x plus rapide. Entre les deux, Vidocq réimplémente Jakarta EE en souverain, le COBOL met un uppercut aux microservices, et un CTO demande à son équipe combien de temps il lui faudrait pour revenir à sa vélocité antérieure sans Claude Code. De quoi réfléchir avant le prochain rewrite. Enregistré le 17 juillet 2026 Téléchargement de l'épisode LesCastCodeurs-Episode-342.mp3 ou en vidéo sur YouTube. News Langages Est-ce qu'on peut aussi utiliser des double, des longs, ou autre pour gérer les montants monétaires en Java ? https://blog.frankel.ch/bigdecimal-vs-double/ double (IEEE 754) Usage : Calculs scientifiques, métriques, statistiques. Avantages : Très performant (matériel), idéal pour l'approximatif. Risques : Erreurs d'accumulation, égalité (==) trompeuse, NaN / -0.0. Bonnes pratiques : Utiliser une tolérance (epsilon ou ULP) pour comparer ; utiliser des algorithmes de sommation compensée (Kahan/Neumaier) pour la précision. BigDecimal Usage : Finance, comptabilité, fiscalité (précision décimale stricte). Avantages : Contrôle total des arrondis et de l'échelle. Risques : Lent (allocations), immutabilité (risque de mauvaise réaffectation), confusion equals() vs compareTo(). Bonnes pratiques : Initialiser via String ou valueOf() ; utiliser compareTo pour l'égalité. Point fixe (long) Usage : Trading, systèmes haute performance, paiements. Avantages : Très rapide, déterministe, zéro allocation. Risques : Gestion manuelle de l'échelle et des débordements (Math.addExact). Points de vigilance en production Sérialisation (JSON) : Préférer les String pour BigDecimal pour éviter la perte d'échelle. Atomicité : double n'est pas atomique ; utiliser volatile ou DoubleAdder (pour les compteurs). Tests : Toujours définir un delta ou Offset pour les tests de flottants. Bibliothèques recommandées Moneta (JSR 354) : Standard bancaire complet. decimal4j : Optimisé pour le point fixe haute performance. Apache Commons Numbers : Outils robustes pour la précision et les sommations. Typescript 7 est de sortie devblogs.microsoft.com/typescript/announcing-typescript-7-0 Performance majeure : Portage natif en Go offrant des gains de vitesse de 8x à 12x et une consommation mémoire réduite. Architecture optimisée : Utilisation du multithreading (mémoire partagée) et parallélisation native (analyse, vérification de types,émission). Nouvelles options de contrôle : Introduction des flags –checkers, –builders (parallélisation) et –singleThreaded (mode mono-cœur). Nouvel observateur de fichiers : Passage à une solution basée sur @parcel/watcher pour une meilleure réactivité et stabilité du mode –watch. Compatibilité et transition : Compatible avec les bases de code TypeScript 6.0. Utilisation du package @typescript/typescript6 recommandée pour maintenir des outils dépendants de l'ancienne API. Changements de configuration : Durcissement des défauts (ex: strict activé par défaut) et suppression de nombreuses options obsolètes (target: es5, baseUrl, etc.). Amélioration de l'expérience éditeur : Serveur de langage (LSP) plus stable avec une réduction de 80 % des erreurs et 60 % des crashs. Limitations actuelles : Support incomplet pour les frameworks utilisant des plugins de langage (Vue, Svelte, Astro, Angular) en attendant une API stable. "Java, the documentary" est sur YouTube, retraçant l'histoire du langage youtube.com/watch?v=… La vidéo n'était pas encore disponible à l'heure de l'enregistrement. Sortie officielle le 17 juillet. Avec des interviews de James Gosling, Brian Goetz, Venkat Subramaniam, et bien d'autres. Librairies What's New in 8.0 - Hibernate docs.hibernate.org/orm/8.0/whats-new L'intégration de Jakarta Persistence 4.0 apporte des nouveautés majeures comme EntityAgent (qui standardise la StatelessSession), les mappings de result set en SQL natif, et de nouvelles options de configuration de session et de requêtes (Session Creation Options, Query Options). Le support de Jakarta Data 1.1 est ajouté pour les Hibernate Data Repositories, incluant l'intégration avec les requêtes statiques JPA4, les projections @Select, et les repositories asynchrones via Jakarta Concurrency ou Hibernate Reactive. L'introduction du Graph-based Flushing remplace l'ancienne approche basée sur des heuristiques par un modèle de dépendances utilisant les contraintes relationnelles, afin d'améliorer la fiabilité des tris, la gestion des batchs et les performances globales (bien que l'ancienne méthode reste temporairement disponible). L'API ProcedureCall a été améliorée pour faciliter le casting des résultats (asResultSetOutput) et permettre la déclaration paresseuse (lazy) du mapping des ResultSet. Hibernate supporte désormais la sécurité au niveau de la ligne (Row-Level Security) de manière native pour les bases de données compatibles (PostgreSQL, Db2, SQL Server, CockroachDB) afin de gérer la visibilité en contexte multi-tenant. Une nouvelle méthode getReference() permet dorénavant de récupérer la référence d'une entité directement à partir de son natural id. Le mode Safe Mode Validator (hibernate.query.safe_mode_enabled=true) fait son apparition pour bloquer les opérations risquées comme sql(), function() ou column() dans les requêtes HQL et Criteria, ce qui est particulièrement utile pour les applications exposées aux LLMs. La gestion des associations bidirectionnelles lors de la phase de flush peut maintenant être prise en charge automatiquement par Hibernate (hibernate.bidirectionality_management=true), synchronisant la référence côté inverse de l'association. Le Subselect Fetching est considérablement amélioré, supportant dorénavant les associations "to-one" pour le bulk select fetching (au lieu de se limiter aux collections) et devenant une option de premier ordre via FetchMethod.BY_SUBQUERY. Un des papas de Cucumber et Gherkin lance Var, une alternative pour le test et le BDD var.oselvar.com Lancement de Vár : Nouvel outil de test créé pour pallier les défauts de Cucumber. Limites de Cucumber : Syntaxe Gherkin trop rigide, intégration difficile avec les exécuteurs de tests et support éditeur limité. Usage avec l'IA : Conçu spécifiquement pour vérifier que les agents IA respectent les intentions et spécifications de l'utilisateur. Fonctionnement : Utilisation du Markdown plutôt que du Gherkin ; sert à la fois de guide et d'outil de vérification. Développement assisté : Code et documentation générés en grande partie par Claude sous supervision humaine. Appel aux retours : Projet ouvert aux tests et aux critiques de la communauté. Web Une nouvelle méthode HTTP : QUERY https://kreya.app/blog/new-http-query-method-explained/ Méthode HTTP QUERY (RFC 10008) pour les recherches complexes. Problème : GET (limité par l'URL) vs POST (sémantique inadaptée). Avantages : Permet un corps de requête, sûr, idempotent et cacheable. Limites : Support infrastructurel faible, non partageable par lien, cache complexe. Usage : À réserver aux requêtes complexes si l'environnement le permet. Comment je fais du design en tant que dev backend eventuallycoding.com/p/comment-je-fais-du-design-en-tant-que-dev-backend Hugo Lassiège retrace l'évolution de son workflow de création d'interfaces en tant que développeur backend, depuis ses débuts avec Bootstrap jusqu'à l'ère de l'intelligence artificielle. L'article explique comment la structuration des éléments visuels a progressé grâce à l'Atomic Design, l'émergence des design systems et l'adoption des design tokens via un framework comme Tailwind. L'auteur détaille son processus actuel qui s'appuie fortement sur Claude Design pour générer et itérer sur des maquettes à partir d'un brief, d'un screenshot ou d'un design system de référence. Il aborde également le risque de slopification et de standardisation extrême apporté par ces outils, rappelant que si l'IA simplifie la technique, il reste crucial d'injecter de l'identité et de l'originalité pour éviter un web trop aseptisé. Data et Intelligence Artificielle De l'utilisation de SKILL.md et de "loop engineering" pour augmenter sa productivité glaforge.dev/posts/…/of-skills-and-loops-with-ai-assistance Les skills permettent d'encoder une procédure de manière répétable et automatisable Le loop engineering enlève l'humain de la boucle afin que l'agent atteigne un objectif donné de façon plus autonome Pour écrire des Codelabs (sorte de tutoriel guidé pas à pas) Guillaume a transformé une séance de création de codelab avec son agent préféré (Antigravity) en skill réutilisable pour l'écriture de ses prochains codelabs Il a également utilisé l'approche de "loop engineering" à la mode en ce moment pour que son agent IA compile, exécute, teste les instructions et le code de son codelab, pour qu'il soit complètement fonctionnel Gain estimé : passer de 2 jours de travail à moins de 2 heures ! Redeploying Claude Fable 5 anthropic.com/news/redeploying-fable-5 Anthropic a annoncé le rétablissement de l'accès à ses modèles Claude Fable 5 et Mythos 5, qui avaient été suspendus suite à des restrictions d'exportation imposées par le gouvernement américain le 12 juin 2026. Cette suspension faisait suite à un rapport d'Amazon démontrant une méthode pour contourner les garde-fous de Fable 5, lui permettant d'identifier et d'exploiter une vulnérabilité logicielle (un jailbreak). Pour y remédier, Anthropic a renforcé ses mécanismes de sécurité en déployant un nouveau classifieur capable de bloquer cette technique spécifique dans plus de 99 % des cas, acceptant en contrepartie une augmentation des faux positifs sur des requêtes bénignes. Face à l'absence de consensus sur l'évaluation des jailbreaks, Anthropic s'associe à Amazon, Microsoft, Google et d'autres partenaires pour développer un standard industriel évaluant la sévérité de ces failles selon quatre critères : gain de capacité, étendue du gain, facilité d'arsenalisation et découvrabilité. L'entreprise s'engage également à approfondir sa collaboration avec le gouvernement américain, notamment via des évaluations pré-déploiement, un partage rapide d'informations sur les failles, et des ressources dédiées à la recherche conjointe sur la sécurité de l'IA. Outillage La réécriture de Bun en Rust et la réaction du créateur de Zig bun.com/blog/bun-in-rust et andrewkelley.me/post/my-thoughts-bun-rust-rewrite.html Bun, le runtime JavaScript et TypeScript écrit à l'origine en Zig, a été entièrement réécrit en Rust pour des raisons de stabilité et de gestion de la mémoire. Cette migration massive d'un demi-million de lignes de code a été bouclée en seulement 11 jours grâce à l'utilisation intensive de Claude Code fonctionnant en parallèle, pour un coût d'API estimé à 165 000 dollars financé par Anthropic. Andrew Kelley, le créateur de Zig, a réagi publiquement en qualifiant l'ancienne base de code de Bun de "slop" remplie de hacks et de fuites mémoire accumulées par une course aux fonctionnalités. Kelley exprime son soulagement face à ce départ, expliquant que les plantages incessants de Bun devenaient un passif réputationnel toxique pour le langage Zig et sa fondation. Le rachat de Bun par Anthropic fin 2025 avait déjà mis fin aux donations financières de Bun envers la Zig Software Foundation, facilitant cette séparation. La nouvelle version Rust de Bun passe désormais la quasi-totalité des tests, réduit la taille du binaire et est déjà déployée de manière transparente en production dans Claude Code. Nouveautés de Git 2.55 github.blog/open-source/git/highlights-from-git-2-55 Support natif de FSMonitor sous Linux via inotify pour accélérer les commandes comme git status sur les grands dépôts Intégration de la compaction incrémentale MIDX (multi-pack index) dans git repack pour optimiser la réécriture des métadonnées Amélioration drastique des performances de génération des bitmaps et des pseudo-merge bitmaps lors des tâches de maintenance Nouvelle commande expérimentale git history fixup pour intégrer facilement des modifications locales dans un commit antérieur Possibilité d'exécuter des hooks configurés en parallèle pour optimiser le temps de build et de validation Utilisation d'un autostash automatique lors d'un git checkout -m en cas de conflit de fusion pour éviter de bloquer l'espace de travail Nouvelle commande git format-rev permettant de formater rapidement des commits reçus via l'entrée standard (stdin) Support du push simultané vers un groupe de remotes configuré Protection contre l'exécution de séquences de contrôle de terminal malveillantes via les flux de progression distants Vidocq, une réimplémentation souveraine et sans dépendance de Jakarta EE et Microprofile vidocq.dev/posts/vidocq-a-sovereign-jakarta-ee-and-microprofile-runtime Lancement de Vidocq : Runtime Java open source complet, compatible Jakarta EE Core Profile et Souveraineté numérique : Projet européen hébergé sur Codeberg, sous licences EUPL 1.2, EPL 2 et GPL 2.0. Standardisation totale : Implémentation fidèle des spécifications (CDI, REST, JSON, etc.), validée par 5 650 tests TCK officiels. Sécurité radicale : Zéro dépendance externe et aucune bibliothèque tierce. Aucune manipulation de bytecode à l'exécution (« magie » générée à la compilation via JDK 25). Compatible JPMS, AOT, GraalVM et Leyden CDS. Disponibilité : Projet en phase alpha, code et documentation accessibles sur vidocq.dev. Article complémentaire qui revient sur la genèse de Vidocq, en utilisant l'IA et les TCKs pour driver l'aspect spec-driven development vidocq.dev/posts/the-story-of-vidocq Le "selfware" : Guillaume s'est fait plais' en vibe-codant son propre éditeur de texte glaforge.dev/posts/…/selfware-building-my-own-text-editor-without-knowing-swift Concept de « Selfware » : création de logiciels conçus exclusivement pour soi-même, sans monétisation ni contraintes liées aux utilisateurs tiers. Le rôle de l'IA : les agents de programmation (comme Antigravity) suppriment la barrière technique de l'apprentissage des langages (Swift, APIs) pour les non-développeurs. Développement minimaliste : privilégier la performance et l'utilité directe (démarrage instantané, interface native) au détriment des fonctionnalités complexes (plugins, télémétrie, gestion de comptes). Absence de pression : libération des contraintes liées à la compatibilité, à la maintenance logicielle et aux retours utilisateurs ; le logiciel n'a besoin d'être « assez bon » que pour ses propres besoins. Incitation à l'autonomie : encourager la création d'outils sur mesure pour résoudre les frictions quotidiennes plutôt que de subir les limitations des logiciels commerciaux. Architecture Le cobol a donné un uppercut au microservices https://freedium-mirror.cfd/@maahisoft20/your-microservices-lost-to-cobol-let-that-sink-in-8ce2e236d007 Retour d'expérience sur la migration d'un système COBOL vers des microservices cloud-native qui s'est soldée par un retour en arrière après avoir constaté que le traitement batch initial était plus rapide, moins cher et plus fiable Là où le batch COBOL traitait 2.4 millions d'enregistrements en 11 minutes, le système distribué modernisé à base de message queues, retries et Kubernetes prenait 47 minutes et tombait sous la charge COBOL brille par ses caractéristiques conçues spécifiquement pour la finance comme le calcul décimal précis sans floating point errors et l'absence totale d'overhead réseau, de conteneurs ou de cold starts Rappel que distribuer un système multiplie les points de défaillance silencieux et complexifie la gestion de la cohérence transactionnelle par rapport à une exécution locale séquentielle Une invitation à se demander si les projets de décomposition en microservices apportent réellement un gain de performance de bout en bout pour l'utilisateur final ou s'ils optimisent seulement le diagramme d'architecture Méthodologies Ma meilleure question d'entretien Spring beaufume.fr/articles/spring-interview Florian beaufumé partage sa question d'entretien favorite pour évaluer des développeurs Spring de niveau intermédiaire à avancé : "Que pouvez-vous me dire sur le paramètre spring.jpa.open-in-view ?". Ce paramètre détermine l'activation du pattern Open Session In View (OSIV) qui, lorsqu'il est à true (la valeur par défaut dans Spring Boot), maintient l'un EntityManager JPA ouvert durant toute la requête HTTP. Si l'OSIV facilite le développement en évitant les fameuses LazyInitializationException lors de la sérialisation des entités en JSON, il pose d'importants problèmes de performance en provoquant des requêtes SQL non maîtrisées (comme le problème du N+1 select) en dehors de la couche service. Maintenir l'OSIV actif augmente également le temps de rétention des connexions au sein du pool de la base de données, limitant la scalabilité de l'application. La recommandation est de désactiver ce comportement en le positionnant à false, et de gérer explicitement le chargement des données requises au sein des transactions (via des DTOs, des requêtes JOIN FETCH ou des Entity Graphs) pour garder le contrôle sur les accès à la base de données. 10 points à retenir du rapport AI Engineering 2026 : The Acceleration Whiplash faros.ai/blog/ai-acceleration-whiplash-takeaways L'IA a franchi un cap et est devenue l'auteur principal du code : le taux d'acceptation du code généré est passé de 20% à 60% dans les équipes étudiées par Faros AI. La vélocité métier est bien réelle, avec une augmentation de 66% des epics livrées et une hausse de 33,7% du throughput des tâches par développeur. Ce volume cache un code churn massif (+861%), ce qui signifie qu'une quantité énorme de code est supprimée ou remplacée peu après avoir été ajoutée. La qualité en aval se dégrade fortement : les bugs par développeur ont augmenté de 54% et le nombre d'incidents par pull request a explosé de 242,7%. Le processus de code review est complètement saturé, entraînant un temps médian de relecture multiplié par cinq et une augmentation de 31,3% des PRs mergées sans aucune revue. Le système repose de plus en plus sur les développeurs seniors qui subissent une "senior engineer tax", devant relire un volume insoutenable de code à l'apparence correcte mais structurellement fragile. Contrairement à certaines hypothèses récentes de DORA, une forte maturité DevOps ne protège pas les entreprises contre cette détérioration ; le "Acceleration Whiplash" frappe de la même manière les équipes très performantes. En résumé, les outils d'IA inondent les pipelines de livraison avec un volume de code pensé pour un rythme machine, alors que les systèmes de vérification reposent toujours sur un rythme de validation humain. Loi, société et organisation Le coût d'une equipe d'engineering qui ne sait plus ce qu'elle fait dans un contexte d'augmentation de coût des coding agents https://freedium-mirror.cfd/@developer_programmer/i-spent-47-000-on-claude-code-in-90-[…]-asked-me-one-question-and-i-couldnt-answer-it-af3b203f81bb Une équipe de 8 ingénieurs a vu sa vélocité de développement exploser en utilisant Claude Code de manière intensive, jusqu'à recevoir une facture d'API salée de 47 213 $ pour seulement trois mois d'utilisation. Face à cette dépense, la question piège du CTO n'était pas sur le montant, mais sur la dépendance : "Si nous arrêtions Claude Code demain, combien de temps faudrait-il pour que notre vélocité revienne à son niveau initial ?". L'auteur s'est rendu compte qu'il était incapable de répondre car son équipe, en particulier les profils juniors, avait commencé à perdre l'habitude de concevoir et d'implémenter des fonctionnalités complexes sans l'aide permanente d'un agent. Le deuxième risque stratégique soulevé est celui de la dépendance tarifaire et du vendor lock-in : si l'outil devient une infrastructure indispensable au quotidien, l'entreprise perd tout pouvoir de négociation face aux augmentations de prix de l'éditeur d'IA. Pour éviter que l'IA ne devienne une béquille qui atrophie les compétences de l'équipe, l'article suggère de poser des limites budgétaires strictes, d'organiser régulièrement des sprints sans IA ("AI-free sprints") et de concevoir des processus de développement portables. Retour de Nicolas Delsaux sur jqwik qui donne une perspective plus complète concernant jqwik, il me semble que vous oubliez (comme tous les gens qui parlent de LLM dans "l'industrie") que l'auteur n'a pas fait ça juste pour faire chier le monde, mais parce que ces outils ont des externalités incroyablement négatives, ce dont l'auteur s'explique dans son blog (blog.johanneslink.net/2026/06/09/the-jqwik-anti-ai-affair) Vous oubliez également de signaler que le ticket (github.com/jqwik-team/jqwik/issues/708) par lequel un utilisateur se plaint de cette fonctionnalité a été écrit par un agent. N'oubliez pas non plus que l'enthousiasme pour ces technologies n'est en fait pas universel, et que ces technologies sont loin d'être inévitables (les gains de vitesse ne sont, d'après circle CI - circleci.com/resources/2026-state-of-software-delivery, pas des gains de productivité ) OkHttp, Okio, Retrofit et SQLDelight rejoignent Commonhaus ! commonhaus.org/activity/315.html La fondation Commonhaus, via une publication de Andres Almiray, annonce l'arrivée de quatre projets majeurs de l'écosystème Java et Kotlin : OkHttp, Okio, Retrofit et SQLDelight. Ces projets, initialement créés chez Square (devenu Block), sont désormais regroupés et gérés sous la bannière lysine.dev au sein de la fondation. Jesse Wilson et Jake Wharton, créateurs et mainteneurs historiques de ces outils, rejoignent Commonhaus en tant que leaders de lysine.dev. Suite à leur départ de Block, ils expliquent avoir choisi Commonhaus pour offrir à leur immense communauté d'utilisateurs un cadre de gouvernance pérenne, stable et digne de confiance. Conférences La liste des conférences provenant de Developers Conferences Agenda/List par Aurélie Vache et contributeurs : 28-30 août 2026 : State of the Map - Champs-sur-Marne (France) 4 septembre 2026 : JUG Summer Camp 2026 - La Rochelle (France) 10-11 septembre 2026 : Nantes Craft - Nantes (France) 17 septembre 2026 : dotAI - Paris (France) 17-18 septembre 2026 : API Platform Conference 2026 - Lille (France) 18 septembre 2026 : WordCamp Bretagne - Rennes (France) 18 septembre 2026 : dotJS - Paris (France) 18 septembre 2026 : WordCamp Bretagne - Rennes (France) 22 septembre 2026 : Salon Data 2026 - Nantes (France) 22-23 septembre 2026 : Agile en Seine & IA 2026 - Paris (France) 24 septembre 2026 : aMP Day Montpellier 2026 - Montpellier (France) 24 septembre 2026 : OWASP AppSec Days France 2026 - Paris (France) 24 septembre 2026 : PlatformCon Paris - Paris (France) 24 septembre 2026 : React Native Connection 2026 - Paris (France) 24-26 septembre 2026 : Paris Web 2026 - Paris (France) 25 septembre 2026 : SAP Inside Track Paris 2026 - Paris (France) 28-29 septembre 2026 : 4th Tech Summit on AI & Robotics - Paris (France) & Online 1 octobre 2026 : WAX 2026 - Marseille (France) 1-2 octobre 2026 : Volcamp - Clermont-Ferrand (France) 2 octobre 2026 : DevFest Perros-Guirec 2026 - Perros-Guirec (France) 5-9 octobre 2026 : Devoxx Belgium - Antwerp (Belgium) 8-9 octobre 2026 : Forum PHP 2026 - Marne-la-Vallée (France) 12 octobre 2026 : Dev With AI - Paris (France) 22-23 octobre 2026 : Agile Tour Bordeaux 2026 - Bordeaux (France) 26 octobre 2026 : Agile Tour Montpellier - Montpellier (France) 27-29 octobre 2026 : Directions EMEA 2026 - Paris (France) 29-30 octobre 2026 : Campus Agile Grenoble - Grenoble (France) 29-30 octobre 2026 : BDX I/O 2026 - Bordeaux (France) 29-30 octobre 2026 : Agile Tour Nantais 2026 - Nantes (France) 29 octobre 2026-1 novembre 2026 : Pycon FR - Biarritz (France) 30 octobre 2026 : Cloud Nord 2026 - Lille (France) 4-5 novembre 2026 : Devoxx Morocco - Casablanca (Morocco) 14-15 novembre 2026 : Capitole du Libre - Toulouse (France) 19 novembre 2026 : DevFest Toulouse 2026 - Toulouse (France) 19 novembre 2026 : Agile Laval 2026 - Laval (France) 19 novembre 2026 : OVHcloud Summit - Paris (France) 19 novembre 2026 : Codeurs en Seine - Rouen (France) 27 novembre 2026 : DevFest Paris 2026 - Paris (France) 1-3 décembre 2026 : Apidays Paris - Paris (France) 2-3 décembre 2026 : Cloud Native AI Summit Europe - Paris (France) 4 décembre 2026 : DevFest Lyon 2026 - Lyon (France) 4 décembre 2026 : DevFest Dijon 2026 - Dijon (France) 9-10 décembre 2026 : OpenSource Expérience - Paris (France) 9-10 décembre 2026 : DevOps REX - Paris (France) 10 décembre 2026 : KCD Provence - Aix-en-Provence (France) 10 décembre 2026 : DevCon 28 : sécurité | post-quantique | hacking édition 2027 - Paris (France) 14-16 janvier 2027 : SnowCamp 2027 - Grenoble (France) 7-9 avril 2027 : Devoxx France 2027 - Paris (France) 3 juin 2027 : Cloud Native Days France 2027 - Paris (France) Nous contacter Pour réagir à cet épisode, venez discuter sur le groupe Google https://groups.google.com/group/lescastcodeurs Contactez-nous via X/twitter https://twitter.com/lescastcodeurs ou Bluesky https://bsky.app/profile/lescastcodeurs.com Faire un crowdcast ou une crowdquestion Soutenez Les Cast Codeurs sur Patreon https://www.patreon.com/LesCastCodeurs Tous les épisodes et toutes les infos sur https://lescastcodeurs.com/
An airhacks.fm conversation with Stanislav Bashkyrtsev about: discussion about testing terminology and the difference between unit tests, component tests, System Tests, and integration tests, defining component tests as in-process invocations without HTTP, using RestAssured with MockMvc-style direct endpoint calls, avoiding mocks in favor of real system tests, why code coverage is a misused management metric, the anti-pattern of using reflection to inflate coverage, distinguishing line and branch coverage from actual verification, using coverage from system tests to detect dead code for pruning, mutation testing with PIT to measure assertion quality, testing Quarkus applications, the default Guice and Guava dependencies in Quarkus RESTEasy, starting a new microservice with a separate system-test module, calling endpoints over HTTP with the MicroProfile REST Client or the Java HTTP client, deploying Quarkus on AWS Lambda as a production-like environment, backward compatibility testing with multiple production versions, turning system tests into stress and load tests, testing connection pools and metrics under load, introducing a test-only private API to verify state changes in serverless systems, contract-driven work in large consulting projects, generating JSON and JSONB directly in PostgreSQL and returning it over JDBC, mapping database rows to Java records instead of DTOs, running GraalVM inside the Oracle Database for stored procedures and table triggers, the pendulum between database-centric and application-centric logic, the convergence of SQL and NoSQL databases, CI/CD pipelines with Jenkins and manual production deployment steps, avoiding Jenkins access to production via CGI shell scripts behind nginx, AWS CodePipeline and CodeBuild with CDK-defined infrastructure, event-driven pipelines triggered by S3 put-object events, multi-account roles with short-lived STS credentials, the size of the AWS SDK and reducing it by excluding unused HTTP clients, health checks and Kubernetes liveness and readiness probes, why health checks make little sense for short-lived Lambdas, a version endpoint for deployment smoke tests Stanislav Bashkyrtsev on twitter: @sbashkirtsev
Сотый выпуск DevOps Kitchen Talks! Мы на YouTube шесть лет, и вот он, сотый выпуск. А в гости пришёл Денис Астахов, автор канала ADV-IT, у которого в конце июля свой юбилей: десять лет каналу. Получился кухонный разговор авторов двух образовательных каналов, разговор обо всём и ни о чём. Про технику сегодня почти ничего, зато про ремесло, мотивацию и жизнь. О ЧЁМ ВЫПУСК • Как Денис начал канал в 2016-м: пять уроков Python за раз, вдохновение от thenewboston, работа в Intel. • «Знаменитая кухня» DKT: провальные студии и почему запись переехала домой. • Почему самый популярный ролик за 10 лет не про DevOps, а про SSD-диски. • Мотивация и выгорание за десять лет ведения канала. • Честно про монетизацию: падение роста в 10 раз и сколько реально приносит канал на 140к подписчиков. • AI в обучении и найме: можно ли выучить DevOps через нейросеть и не отупеть от копипаста. • Стоит ли сейчас заводить технический YouTube и что для этого нужно. ГОСТЬ Денис Астахов, автор канала ADV-IT (AWS, DevOps, Terraform, Kubernetes, облака). AWS Hero. 10 лет на YouTube. ADV-IT: https://www.youtube.com/@ADV-IT 100 ВЫПУСКОВ Это наш юбилейный сотый выпуск. Скоро проведём праздничный стрим, следите за анонсами в Telegram. ССЫЛКИ
AI agents have transformed how software gets written, but the operational side of running software in production has not yet experienced a similar revolution. The same teams responsible for keeping systems healthy, investigating incidents, and managing reliability are still doing much of that work manually. Mezmo is a Production AI company that makes autonomous operations fast, efficient, and safe. Their open source project, AURA, is a declarative agent framework specifically designed for SRE and platform engineering workflows. It takes a Kubernetes-inspired approach where teams define what they want agents to do rather than scripting every step of how to do it. Andre Elizondo is the head of product at Mezmo, and he has a background in systems engineering, SRE, and observability. In this episode, Andre joins Kevin Ball to discuss what makes SRE agent workflows fundamentally different from coding agents, how AURA handles context engineering, AURA’s declarative configuration model, the spectrum of agent autonomy, and where the role of the SRE is headed as agents take on more of the operational work. Full Disclosure: This episode is sponsored by Mezmo. Kevin Ball or KBall, is the vice president of engineering at Mento and an independent coach for engineers and engineering leaders. He co-founded and served as CTO for two companies, founded the San Diego JavaScript meetup, and organizes the AI inaction discussion group through Latent Space. Please click here to see the transcript of this episode. Sponsorship inquiries: sponsor@softwareengineeringdaily.com The post AURA and Open-Source Agents for Production Operations appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.
AI agents have transformed how software gets written, but the operational side of running software in production has not yet experienced a similar revolution. The same teams responsible for keeping systems healthy, investigating incidents, and managing reliability are still doing much of that work manually. Mezmo is a Production AI company that makes autonomous operations fast, efficient, and safe. Their open source project, AURA, is a declarative agent framework specifically designed for SRE and platform engineering workflows. It takes a Kubernetes-inspired approach where teams define what they want agents to do rather than scripting every step of how to do it. Andre Elizondo is the head of product at Mezmo, and he has a background in systems engineering, SRE, and observability. In this episode, Andre joins Kevin Ball to discuss what makes SRE agent workflows fundamentally different from coding agents, how AURA handles context engineering, AURA’s declarative configuration model, the spectrum of agent autonomy, and where the role of the SRE is headed as agents take on more of the operational work. Full Disclosure: This episode is sponsored by Mezmo. Kevin Ball or KBall, is the vice president of engineering at Mento and an independent coach for engineers and engineering leaders. He co-founded and served as CTO for two companies, founded the San Diego JavaScript meetup, and organizes the AI inaction discussion group through Latent Space. Please click here to see the transcript of this episode. Sponsorship inquiries: sponsor@softwareengineeringdaily.com The post AURA and Open-Source Agents for Production Operations appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.
AI agents have transformed how software gets written, but the operational side of running software in production has not yet experienced a similar revolution. The same teams responsible for keeping systems healthy, investigating incidents, and managing reliability are still doing much of that work manually. Mezmo is a Production AI company that makes autonomous operations fast, efficient, and safe. Their open source project, AURA, is a declarative agent framework specifically designed for SRE and platform engineering workflows. It takes a Kubernetes-inspired approach where teams define what they want agents to do rather than scripting every step of how to do it. Andre Elizondo is the head of product at Mezmo, and he has a background in systems engineering, SRE, and observability. In this episode, Andre joins Kevin Ball to discuss what makes SRE agent workflows fundamentally different from coding agents, how AURA handles context engineering, AURA’s declarative configuration model, the spectrum of agent autonomy, and where the role of the SRE is headed as agents take on more of the operational work. Full Disclosure: This episode is sponsored by Mezmo. Kevin Ball or KBall, is the vice president of engineering at Mento and an independent coach for engineers and engineering leaders. He co-founded and served as CTO for two companies, founded the San Diego JavaScript meetup, and organizes the AI inaction discussion group through Latent Space. Please click here to see the transcript of this episode. Sponsorship inquiries: sponsor@softwareengineeringdaily.com The post AURA and Open-Source Agents for Production Operations appeared first on Software Engineering Daily.
Can you build a fully functional, high-scale SIEM in just two weeks for under $7,000? In this episode of the Cloud Security Podcast, hosts Tim Peacock and Kyle Champlin sit down with long-time collaborator Dan Lucier, Founder of Nano, to unpack how he "vibe-coded" an entire SIEM from scratch during his end-of-year holiday break. Dan shares his journey of leveraging bleeding-edge AI code assistants to go from a Postgres prototype to a blazing-fast, production-ready SIEM built on Rust and ClickHouse. In this episode, we cover:
We've been running a bit of an Agent Cloud series surveying all the top inference/compute/cloud providers, from Databricks to Daytona to Railway and, even further back, E2B, but we're excited to conclude this series returning to Modal, which has just raised a monster $355M Series C.The cloud was built for developers. But agents are now changing that.The old infra stack was designed for a human who could read docs, reason through YAML, and understand dashboards to figure out what they need when something broke. While this was painful for developers, it worked since they could fill in missing context in their heads.However, agents don't have that luxury. Now in this new era of agents, everything has to be tighter.They need a place to write code, run it, inspect the output, change the environment, debug failures, and try again. Fast iteration and feedback loops with all the necessary context are crucial for agents to operate properly. Furthermore, sandboxes are a clear representation of this shift as agents can easily spin up isolated environments. This programmatic infra even extends to research:Two years ago, we were one of the first to cover Modal with CEO Erik Bernhardsson and Alessio designed our favorite LS thumbnail of all time:At the time, Modal was just a teeny little company with a $17M Series A.Today, fresh off their $355M Series C, Modal is one of the clearest examples of the agent cloud future being built in real time: a cloud platform moving past traditional web app assumptions toward the workloads AI actually creates such as elastic inference, sandboxes, GPU burst, post-training, background agents, and infrastructure that agents themselves can operate.In this episode, Modal CTO Akshat Bubna joins swyx and Vibhu to unpack why AI applications don't fit traditional cloud assumptions, why Kubernetes was never designed for bursty compute-heavy workloads, and why Modal is now shifting from developer experience to agent experience.We go deep on Modal's AI infra stack: serverless functions, decorator-based infrastructure, elastic inference for custom models, GPU snapshotting, DeFlash, speculative decoding, Auto Endpoints, sandboxes, persistent storage, networked containers, private IPv6, RDMA, multi-node training, and Modal's capacity pool across 17 cloud providers. Akshat also explains why RL rollouts can require 100,000 sandboxes, why production agents need hard guardrails, why observability may matter more than reading code, and why AI has made infrastructure exciting again.We discuss:* Why Kubernetes wasn't built for bursty AI workloads* How Modal started as a better runtime before becoming an AI cloud* Why Modal added GPUs before ChatGPT* The shift from developer experience to agent experience* Why observability matters when agents are writing the code* Elastic inference for custom models across audio, video, robotics, and comp bio* GPU snapshotting, cold starts, and why inference workloads are so bursty* Why RL rollouts can require 100,000 sandboxes* DeFlash, speculative decoding, and frontier-level inference performance* Auto Endpoints and making optimized inference easier to deploy* What Modal adds beyond vLLM, SGLang, and raw GPU rental* Modal's 17-cloud capacity pool and supercloud strategy* Networked sandboxes, sidecars, private IPv6, and RDMA* Serverless multi-node training for post-training and research workloads* Auto-research, model-guided sweeps, and agents launching GPU experiments* Compute strategy, capacity planning, and batch tiers* Why production agents need specialized sandboxes and hard guardrails* Modal's take on managed agents, CI, Gitpod/Ona, Python, TypeScript, and Modal BenchAkshat Bubna* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshat-bubna-188885103* X: https://x.com/akshat_bModal* Website: https://modal.comTimestamps00:00:00 Introduction00:00:39 Modal's origin and why Kubernetes wasn't enough00:04:32 Developer Experience → Agent Experience00:06:21 Modal's AI cloud primitives00:09:14 Sandboxes, agent loops, and proto-Cognition00:12:12 Elastic inference, GPU snapshotting, and 100,000 sandboxes00:15:24 DeFlash, speculative decoding, and Auto Endpoints00:19:59 Production-grade inference beyond raw GPUs00:22:00 Background agents, Ramp Inspect, and the agent lifecycle00:24:08 Modal's 17-cloud supercloud strategy00:26:40 Networked sandboxes, private IPv6, and RDMA00:32:48 Multi-node training, post-training, and auto research00:37:36 Compute strategy, capacity planning, and batch tiers00:40:55 Open models, real-time AI, and production agent infra00:43:06 Hard guardrails, managed agents, and specialized sandboxes00:46:06 Why AI made infrastructure exciting again00:48:30 Model APIs, differentiated products, and agentic video00:51:50 CI, coding-agent infra, SDKs, and Modal Bench00:57:28 Closing ThoughtsTranscriptIntroduction: Modal, Series C, and the Art PartySwyx [00:00:00]: We're here with Akshat, CTO of Modal, together with Vibhu. Congrats on your Series C.Akshat [00:00:10]: Thank you.Swyx [00:00:11]: Your party yesterday was amazing.Akshat [00:00:15]: Yeah.Swyx [00:00:15]: From all the photos and all the swag.Akshat [00:00:17]: We had a bunch of art installations, which was fun, seeing, like, our products on pedestals next to, like, Rodin.Swyx [00:00:25]: Very nice. Very nice. When you started, it was not the GPU inference company. Maybe it was in your mind. Take us back to the origin story.Modal's Origin: A New Runtime Beyond KubernetesAkshat [00:00:39]: I first met Eric, who's the CEO, through an investor. Back then Eric was already thinking about building, a new runtime, and he got there thinking through why are workflow orchestration products so hard to use. It's because you have to run them on Kubernetes. Kubernetes is hard to manage. It's not built for burstiness and, custom images,Swyx [00:01:03]: YeahAkshat [00:01:03]: It has a terrible developer experience.Swyx [00:01:05]: And I'll, I'll interjectAkshat [00:01:06]: YeahSwyx [00:01:07]: For listeners, who are new, we interviewed Eric two years ago, and there's a bit more of the story there from Spotify and all those things.Swyx [00:01:14]: And I came across Eric through Data Council because he did that talk on the serverless container stack that you guys did, which was like, that was my first like, “Okay, I need to take Modal very seriously” moment.Akshat [00:01:26]: Yeah.Swyx [00:01:26]: But it was still very unclear, like, do I need all this for just my data pipelines?Akshat [00:01:33]: Yeah. initially what we were thinking about was if we build a better runtime, it's a very useful primitive in itself. It's There's a lot of things that, get solved by serverless functions, like you can do, ETL stuff, you can do job queues, you can do all this, like, bursty processing, which it turns out every company had needs for. but then we also were thinking about this as like, this is a primitive that we can build a whole collection of products on, which are very verticalized. So perhaps data engineering would've been the first one, but we were thinking about inference. Back then it was more classical inference, like computer vision stuff and running XGBoosts and whatnot. But we added GPUs to the product a year before ChatGPT came out.From Serverless Containers to GPU WorkloadsSwyx [00:02:19]: Nice.Akshat [00:02:19]: We just didn't think it would be that big of a deal.Swyx [00:02:22]: Yeah, just like add A100.Vibhu [00:02:23]: Was there any, like, early key problem that really sparked off why you built it?Akshat [00:02:28]: Yeah. Primarily it's just, none of the tooling that was out there was built for, one, a really great developer experience, and also there's a general trend of, a lot of the workloads that we were seeing were very. I wish there was a better word for it, but compute-heavy. Like, they need, one, like, need a lot more resources, so you need to burst up and down a lot, versus like Kubernetes designed for, like, slow scaling and, more for, like, web server use cases. And also there's just a lot more specialization in, like, what kinds of environments these workloads run in. Like, we had sometimes they need accelerators, sometimes they need different kinds of images, and this is just like a consistent thing that we saw across a lot of companies. That would be the next step.Software-Defined Infrastructure and Decorator-Based DXSwyx [00:03:13]: Yeah. Yeah. Be nice. I don't know how much this factored into the early story, but I wrote a post when I was at Temporal about infrastructure, software-defined infrastructure or something like that.Akshat [00:03:22]: Yeah, the self-provisioningSwyx [00:03:23]: Self-provisioning.Akshat [00:03:24]: Yeah.Swyx [00:03:24]: Yeah. I can't even remember my own post.Swyx [00:03:26]: And then you put me on the landing page.Akshat [00:03:28]: Yeah. We really like, the term and so we stole it.Swyx [00:03:32]: Because you had the insight that everything can just be in decorators co-located with the code, right?Akshat [00:03:37]: Yeah.Swyx [00:03:37]: Was that a big part of the originalAkshat [00:03:39]: YesSwyx [00:03:39]: Story or it was just like a DX layer?Akshat [00:03:41]: That was, really important because we really didn't want people to spend, so much time, writing YAML, and it seemed like you could really condense the surface area of what you're doing, put it in code so you can operate on it just like you operate on other code, and like build stuff that's more expressive and dynamic. and so yeah, that was always a very important part.Swyx [00:04:04]: Then the pushback is this is a DSL.Akshat [00:04:07]: Yeah.Swyx [00:04:07]: It's you're closed source. I am locked into Modal.Akshat [00:04:11]: Yeah. We never really got pushback for that because the nice thing about Modal is you can bring whatever code you have, and sure, the DSL is at the configuration layer for, what hardware you're using, how you're scaling things up, but you still own the code.Akshat [00:04:27]: And that's, that's been an important, part of our story, even as we do inference now.Swyx [00:04:32]: Yeah.Vibhu [00:04:32]: How much of do you think still stays the same today? Like if you were to build something today, DevX very important, but I feel like, a lot of this has been changed with just hook it up to an agent, have Claude Code, have Codex implement a tool. there's very agent native primitives that are different than if I'm doing this myself, right?Developer Experience → Agent ExperienceAkshat [00:04:54]: We've changed our SDK team to think about agent experience instead of, developer experience and we think that the same benefits that apply for DX also apply for AX, which is why would you have an agent read through hundreds of Kubernetes files and like write YAML that's not even typed when it can make a couple of changes in a decorator and it gets this self-provisioning runtime of, being able to see its changes live in action? yeah, it just seems from the customers we talk to, they find Modal is much faster for agents to use versus operating on a different substrate.Swyx [00:05:34]: Yeah, because like you, again, you co-locate the infrastructure requirements to the code that runs it.Akshat [00:05:38]: Yeah.Swyx [00:05:38]: Well, the negative thesis now is that nobody's looking at their code anymore, so there's no point.Akshat [00:05:44]: Yeah, people aren't looking at code. one thing we still see is really important is observability.Swyx [00:05:51]: Yeah.Akshat [00:05:51]: Like how good is your dashboard? And of course, like we have, we push a lot of it to the CLI so the agents can do their own investigation, but you still need humans to go interpret what's going on and, make judgment calls and whatnot. and that's I feel like, Maybe more important now than looking at the code itself.Swyx [00:06:11]: Yes, because like, you can try to treat the code as a black box and then use, see the observable action that comes out of it, and then just prompt a change.What Modal Is For: AI Cloud PrimitivesAkshat [00:06:21]: Yeah.Swyx [00:06:22]: So I think it takes a bit of restraint to not specialize, to say, “I want to ship a new primitive,” and then just be general purpose.Swyx [00:06:31]: People ask you, “What are you for?” You're like, “ I don't know. We can do this, we can do that.”Vibhu [00:06:36]: Well, I'd be curious to see, like, okay, if we were to ask you, like, what is Modal for even at a high level? There's a lot you guys do, sandboxes, GPUs, everything. How do you answer?Akshat [00:06:46]: Modal is a cloud platform that's built for, where we've built the primitives from scratch for AI applications. and right now it covers, inference, training, batch processing, and sandbox workloads.Akshat [00:07:00]: But we're building a lot moreSwyx [00:07:02]: I noticed you didn't say web server, so there is still a role for, like, the always-on large-scale Kubernetes type things.Akshat [00:07:09]: Yeah, absolutely. We're, we're not trying to compete with the renders of the world, because yeah, we think the differentiator for us is the, are the workloads that need specialized compute, need to scale up and down a lot. yeah, they're, they're, they're just shaped differently.Working Alongside Frontier StartupsVibhu [00:07:26]: I think you're building a lot of it alongside the startups, right? They're innovating quite a bit, even in your, like, latest blog post. Like, even in the series C, the customers that you mention here, the cognitions, technical ones, ramps and whatnot, they're, they're innovating with you, right? And that's not something AWS is doing directly with.Akshat [00:07:45]: Yeah, absolutely. I think, this is again classic. We're a small team. We can move really fast. our engineers are working with our customers and figuring it out. Yeah.Swyx [00:07:54]: So my first week at Cognition, I walked in, there was someone wearing a Modal shirt. I was like, “What are you doing here?” They're like, “Yeah, I just. I am embedded inside of Cog.”Akshat [00:08:05]: Yeah, I think that was Peyton. We sent him overSwyx [00:08:07]: Yeah.Akshat [00:08:07]: Because, the latency of communication was too high otherwise.Swyx [00:08:12]: Yeah, distributed node, you have to - you have to place one and collocate.Vibhu [00:08:16]: Yeah.Swyx [00:08:16]: So I had a, I had direct personal experience, right? So I worked on smol developer three years ago. it was inspired by Claude 1. I think you onboarded me at some point, like, just before, and I was like, “Oh, like, I need some bursty compute. Like, I was just gonna try using Modal.” And it was a, it was a pretty pleasant experience. apparently, I showed up in the board meeting, like the analytics.smol developer, Sandboxes, and Proto-CognitionAkshat [00:08:39]: Yeah, you blew up on Hacker News and,Swyx [00:08:41]: YeahAkshat [00:08:41]: We got a big traffic spike. I. I think the way you used smol developer was Modal functions for running stuff, which was. Like, the, that was a good use case. but then, yeah.Swyx [00:08:53]: Yeah. That - So to me, that was proto-cognition.Akshat [00:08:55]: Right.Swyx [00:08:56]: If only I had, like, stuck to it.Swyx [00:08:58]: Like, that was like, if - did you say draw the tech treeAkshat [00:09:00]: AbsolutelySwyx [00:09:00]: You're just like, “Yeah, like, probably this will happen.”Akshat [00:09:02]: Yeah. Like, he was so close. You were just rebuilding upon usSwyx [00:09:04]: I just didn't realize.Akshat [00:09:05]: But the funny story there is at the same time, we were talking to a bunch of customers who needed something like sandboxing.Swyx [00:09:14]: Yeah.Akshat [00:09:14]: This is like twenty-three.Swyx [00:09:15]: Yeah.Akshat [00:09:16]: So we builtSwyx [00:09:17]: You introduced a new API right after that.Akshat [00:09:18]: Yeah.Swyx [00:09:19]: Yes.Akshat [00:09:19]: Like, we built sandboxes in May of twenty-three before anyone was even knew this was gonna be a thing. And the first example we published was, we took smol developerSwyx [00:09:28]: Smol developerAkshat [00:09:28]: And put it in a loop, so the agent can iterate on itself.Swyx [00:09:33]: Loops are hot these days.Vibhu [00:09:34]: It's the looper.Akshat [00:09:34]: Yeah.Vibhu [00:09:35]: Loops in. When was this, twenty-three?Akshat [00:09:38]: Yeah.Vibhu [00:09:39]: A small check.Akshat [00:09:39]: Yeah.Swyx [00:09:39]: It's like twenty-three. so the. the, those for listeners, like, the problem was the models are not built for any of this, right?Swyx [00:09:46]: Like, you're just trying to like. They're not post-training to understand, like, looping and, like, self-correction and tool calling was there, but, like, also not that great.Akshat [00:09:55]: Yeah.Akshat [00:09:55]: I don't remember if you used tool calling in this one, but yeah, the models would just diverge after like ten iterations and not produce anything meaningful.Swyx [00:10:03]: Yeah. But like, then. So okay, like now talking to myself three years ago, the answerVibhu [00:10:08]: Of course they will get betterSwyx [00:10:09]: Collect all the failures, build benchmark, and then collect all the, examples, build the RL environmentAkshat [00:10:15]: RightSwyx [00:10:15]: Sell it for like ten billion dollars to Meta.Swyx [00:10:17]: And then also train a model and then sell that for sixty billion dollars to Elon. And this isAkshat [00:10:23]: Yeah, of courseSwyx [00:10:23]: The funny machine. Like, it's like, it's about the hardware.Akshat [00:10:28]: It's hard to have that inherent conviction that the stuff will get that much better.Swyx [00:10:33]: In retrospect, it's so f*****g obvious.Akshat [00:10:36]: Fair enough.Swyx [00:10:37]: Like, what else were we doing back then? I don't know. anyway. Yeah. So this. That was the start of your sandboxing journey, right? I feel like it didn't blow up until, like, last year.Akshat [00:10:49]: Yeah.Swyx [00:10:50]: So there was like a couple years of quietness.Akshat [00:10:52]: Exactly, yeah. We wereVibhu [00:10:53]: I think very underrated product value. Like, my experience with Modal, Charles, before he had joined Modal, met this guy at a hackathon, and he really insisted we wanted to run some small model, not hosted anywhere, and he's like, “ there's this cool company, Modal. They'll like spin up a GPU sandbox, we can throw it on there. They'll take a Hugging Face link.” And like there's so much value just right there, right? Like instant hosting, spin it up, spin it down. It'll stay cold, but we run the demo a few days later, it'll come back up and like all this stuff in retrospect, like it's still what we needed like today.Akshat [00:11:27]: Yeah, it's still needed today. workload shapes have changed a lot as, we run stuff for people with really massive production scale and, there it's it's not about scaling from zero to one, but it's how do we scale really elastically, from like thousand to fifteen hundred GPUs very quickly in a given region. It's the same shape problem.Elastic Inference, GPU Autoscaling, and Custom ModelsVibhu [00:11:50]: Okay. So you look at, say, Cursor Composer, right?Akshat [00:11:53]: Yeah.Vibhu [00:11:53]: They had a. “We'll do RL on a model every couple hours.” you guys have a whole version of RL inference gym and whatnot.Vibhu [00:12:01]: When you look at workloads like that, you're doing train runs where you need to scale up, scale down every hour thousands of GPUs, right? That's the example for we do need it, right?Akshat [00:12:12]: Yeah. Well, so I'll, I'll take a step back and, maybe talk about like how people use Modal today. because our biggest use case is, elastic inference. And the thing we first found product market fit, with was inference for custom models. So we stayed away from the LLM space, and we were serving companies like Suno for audio, Runway for video, robotics, comp bio companies that train their own model elsewhere. But Modal is the best black box that for deployment, scaling to however many GPUs you need as your traffic pattern changes. And we saw all of them like have a very unpredict- predict- predictable, traffic pattern. it's like diurnal. It's Some days, like the company will do a launch and, they'll need like, way more. And it's not just one model that they deploy. They-- all these companies deploy, lots of different models in different regions, and so the autoscaling problem becomes even harder because then you have to scale within a certain region, and those cycles are offset. So different times you scale up in different regions.Akshat [00:13:20]: So that's like our sortVibhu [00:13:22]: And thatAkshat [00:13:22]: YeahVibhu [00:13:22]: That in and of itself is a huge category. There's a bunch of inference providers which, provide this fireworks, does this as a service together, whatnot, Base10. that's carved into its own niche for language models, at least right now.Akshat [00:13:36]: Yeah. the thing that we have specialized in is the autoscaling aspect.Vibhu [00:13:41]: Yeah.Akshat [00:13:41]: Because we found that it's not universally true that everyone else can autoscale, and we've gone deeper into it on the tech side by, we've incorporated GPU snapshotting into the product so we can take the GPU state, like your torch.compile model, snapshot it, and the next cold start is way faster. And so going back to your question, it's That's why you need a lot of burstiness for inference. But then people also do a lot of demand training, like for RL stuff, your rollouts are bursty, as you said. People also do a lot of batch jobs. So we'll see, a lot of companies, before they have a training run, they'll need thousands of GPUs to run encoding or something like that. And I think those things are much more bursty than. I agree that agents are not that bursty. sandboxes are, except when you're doing RL. RL is justRL, Batch Jobs, and 100,000 SandboxesVibhu [00:14:28]: Or commerceAkshat [00:14:28]: Insanely bursty.Vibhu [00:14:29]: Yeah.Akshat [00:14:30]: Yeah. Like when you're doing, rollouts, you sometimes need a hundred thousand sandboxes in your sandboxes.Vibhu [00:14:37]: Yeah. I'm curious if you've seen early sparks of continual learning. There are some people, like our friends, ngram, recently announced thisAkshat [00:14:45]: YeahVibhu [00:14:45]: They're, they're trying to do training. That also seems like a different workload, right? If you're doing training twenty-four/seven per se, there's a very weird dynamic of how you're using GPUs between people and whatnot, but seems like something you guys would work for.Akshat [00:15:00]: As you said, we're, we're fortunate to work with a number of, customers at the frontier and grab some of our customers. and they are taking the primitives we have, and trying to use them in very interesting ways, like continual learning. It's possible as the stuff gets better, some of that will be part of, our offering as well if, more people need it. but we're, we're just waiting to seeVibhu [00:15:23]: YeahAkshat [00:15:23]: How it shakes out.Vibhu [00:15:24]: Is there a primitive that you added after sandboxing that was the next step in the story?LLM Inference, DeFlash, and Speculative DecodingAkshat [00:15:32]: I guess we've been going much deeper into LLM inferenceVibhu [00:15:35]: YeahAkshat [00:15:35]: Because we realized that some of the advantages we have with like autoscaling, again, especially in different regions and whatnot, are, not present elsewhere. and the place where we had a gap was we weren't, working on the model layer itself. Like we were a black box. And, we realized that, we can get to frontier-level model performance, with, by having great people who work on this. And, we've been open sourcing a lot of our work, in terms of, Recently, we, shared our work on DeFlash, which is a block-based, speculator, and we've open sourced, all of it. So, you can - By using open source DeFlash, you can get the same performance as you would with one of the proprietary providers. And the next thing we're thinking about hereVibhu [00:16:23]: I thought this wasAkshat [00:16:24]: YeahVibhu [00:16:24]: An interesting blog post as well, right? Like, I think in here you make a claim that. Not a claim, just that how effective speculative deco-decoding really just get to.Akshat [00:16:33]: Yeah.Vibhu [00:16:33]: Anything you wanna point out from this around, what people should know?Akshat [00:16:39]: Yeah, absolutely. the high-level summary is, it would help to describe what speculative decoding is.Vibhu [00:16:44]: Yes.Akshat [00:16:44]: I will, yes.Vibhu [00:16:45]: I think, likeAkshat [00:16:46]: YeahVibhu [00:16:46]: So we've covered like Eagle and all thisAkshat [00:16:47]: YeahVibhu [00:16:47]: Like Hydra and all those things, but it was like two years ago.Akshat [00:16:51]: Yeah.Vibhu [00:16:51]: I think it doesn't hurt, right?Akshat [00:16:52]: Yeah. Speculative decoding is you have a smaller model, called a draft model, predict tokens ahead of the bigger model, and then you have the bigger model, verify all of this, all the tokens are predicted. And the reason it's faster is if you're predicting, one token at once, you're bound by memory bandwidth. But if you can batch the verification of, the draft model, then you're much more efficient using compute, and it's faster, and as long as your draft model is producing a lot of tokens that can get accepted, which is called the accept length, you can get a speed up that's, multiple times of, the original model speed. and well, that's what we highlight here. It's Like people talk a lot about we made these kernels faster and whatnot, but improving kernel will only give you like few percentage points of improvement, and, increasing accept length, literally is a multiplicative decreaseVibhu [00:17:47]: Like two to four X.Akshat [00:17:48]: Yeah, exactly.Vibhu [00:17:48]: Without much head-on performance.Akshat [00:17:50]: Yeah. I think it may - you are running a second model, right? So it may be something more expensive in the compute,Vibhu [00:17:57]: I meant quality performanceAkshat [00:17:58]: Probably not by muchVibhu [00:17:58]: But yeah. I thinkAkshat [00:17:59]: So there's no drop in quality performanceVibhu [00:18:01]: YeahAkshat [00:18:01]: Because you're always. You're never accepting a token that the big modelVibhu [00:18:04]: It's strictly betterAkshat [00:18:05]: YeahVibhu [00:18:05]: Or it's same.Akshat [00:18:06]: Exactly.Vibhu [00:18:07]: Right. Yeah.Akshat [00:18:08]: And so we've been working a bunch on DeFlash, which is a block-based speculator. so it's instead of predicting, one token at a time, it's predicting a block. And we've been open sourcing our work with it. The next thing for us here is for helping people train speculators and custom models. it's it's something that traditionally is very forward-deployed engineering driven, support deployed, engineer driven, like you work with customers and help them do that. And our vision for. This is why we launched Auto Endpoints, is we want to make frontier-level performance available to everyone. And so, we mentioned this in the announcement, we teased it. The next thing we're, we're launching is, as you run an auto endpoint, we shadow trafficAuto Endpoints and Frontier-Level PerformanceVibhu [00:18:54]: Do you want to explain what auto endpoints are?Akshat [00:18:57]: Yeah.Vibhu [00:18:57]: I lovely, yeah.Akshat [00:18:58]: Yeah. So, this is, I guess, going back to your Modal is you touch the code, but, sometimes people don't wanna touch the code, and they wanna get started with an endpoint that works and has all the great performance and, scalability that Modal has. So we've made that easier with, a way to create an endpoint from our UI, from the CLI, that has all of our optimizations that we talked about, like the DeFlash stuff already baked in, and there's full transparency. So we give you the code, you can go run it yourself, and if you want, you can eject out into the full Modal experience, which we see as people get sophisticated, they do wanna tweak the models, they wanna, fine-tune stuff. You can still do all of that. It's it's not a black box. And yeah, the next thing, as we teased later in the post, is how do we give you value even beyond this in terms of having your draft models evolve as your data distribution evolves, again, without having to talk to a person and, yeah.Vibhu [00:19:59]: I guess just to understand it directly, you have the GPUs, you have an endpoint that's compatible, you serve open model. If someone was to do this themselves, what's the delta that you guys provide? So you do a lot of open source great work on effective inference. how does it compare to, say, I take the same model, 5.2 FP8, take shelf inference engine, vLLM, SGLang, get compute of similar capacity, similar cost. What's the delta that plugging into something this, like this offers outside of the benefit of, scaling?Production Inference Beyond Raw GPUsAkshat [00:20:34]: It's interesting because we've taken the approach of open sourcing our contributions and upstreaming them. we work closely with the SGLang team. We want the improvements that our team, comes up with to be, there in open source for others to use, even outside of Modal. The benefit to us is we have a team that has significant expertise in terms of if you do have something that is not there, our team can help you get that performance, first. the other thing is with these endpoints, we are way more elastic, as you said, than, anyone else, and you have true scaling to zero. you have true, burstiness, and in practice, that matters a lot more to people than just finding, the GPU and, running Modal code on something.Vibhu [00:21:20]: Yeah. And I will say it's not that straightforward to just. like what I said is easier said than done, right?Akshat [00:21:26]: Yeah.Vibhu [00:21:27]: It's I think still for the average person, still hard to just gut check using different. There's, there's quite a bit of combinations you can make there. the trade-offs aren't really known at face value.Akshat [00:21:40]: Yeah. it's it's not just that. I think it's it's that running production-grade inference is a hard infer problem.Vibhu [00:21:49]: YeahAkshat [00:21:49]: Even if you subtract out the autoscalingVibhu [00:21:50]: YeahAkshat [00:21:51]: Is controlling things like tail latency and, making sure every, request is delivered at least once and whatnot.The Model and Agent LifecycleVibhu [00:22:00]: There's a lot of innovation that you can do here. I think, it's very interesting that you're starting to encroach on, like as you become a full cloud, you're starting to encroach on other people's turf.Vibhu [00:22:09]: What will you not do?Akshat [00:22:13]: Well, we wanna follow our users and, make sure they get like a platform that has everything that works well together. so right now we're focused on the model lifecycle and the agent, lifecycle. so both like going from data prep to training to inference, and then also if I want to deploy a background agent, let's say, sandbox, do persistent storage, a whole bunch of other stuff.Vibhu [00:22:38]: We talked to Cole, who did, OpenInspect. Yeah.Akshat [00:22:42]: Yeah.Vibhu [00:22:42]: And RealInspect also is on Modal.Akshat [00:22:44]: Yeah. So Ramp Inspect was a great example of a background agent that was really successful because they, were able to use some of the primitives like snapshotting and fast scaling to just have something that feels really reactive and works well.Ramp Inspect and Background AgentsVibhu [00:23:02]: Yeah. That's the new CTO of, Ramp right there.Akshat [00:23:05]: Yeah, Rahul.Vibhu [00:23:08]: It was really fun. yeah, okay, I think, all very bullish. Like, one of my reflections was also I did not originally. So when I met you guysThe Inference Inflection: CPU, GPU, and Co-LocationVibhu [00:23:19]: You weren't that much in the GPU game, and now you're all about, inference. And one of the points that I hinged on for Jensen's keynote at GTC this year was, what we're calling like the inference inflection, right? That let's say in AI workloads or machine learning workloads, it used to be like, let's call it eight to one GPU to CPU, and now it's more like one to one, which is like a interesting. Like, - because of how much agents are blocked or call out to this, to CPU heavy stuff the actual, like, limiting factor, like, swings back and forth from GPU to CPU a lot more than it used to be all GPU and then occasional CPU.Akshat [00:24:01]: Yeah.Vibhu [00:24:02]: GPU, CPU. And now it's like just constantly, and you just have to locate everything.Seventeen Clouds and the Supercloud StrategyAkshat [00:24:08]: Yeah. And that's one of the things that, again, we see as, something appealing about Modal, which is we've built this capacity pool that spans, 17 cloud providers, so we're, we're very good at Running on various kinds of cloud capacity across the worldSwyx [00:24:24]: You don't have your own data centers?Akshat [00:24:25]: We don't have our own data centers. We just run across a lot of neo cloudsSwyx [00:24:29]: Yeah. AreAkshat [00:24:30]: Metal providers.Swyx [00:24:30]: Yeah. Question mark.Swyx [00:24:31]: Yeah. You're, you're running the math, and you're like, “What's the cutover point where you're like.”Akshat [00:24:36]: Yeah, it's a good question. part of it is we see our differentiator in the software layer, and, being capital light and focusing on the software helps us move really fast. so far it's worked out well because there are so many other people building data centers that we're able to work effectively with them, and again, focus on what makes us, special.Swyx [00:24:55]: Yeah.Swyx [00:24:56]: 17 gets you into, like, the local providers sometimes. LikeAkshat [00:25:00]: The,Swyx [00:25:01]: Which was the most interesting one?Akshat [00:25:02]: There are a lot more neo clouds than you expect, and they all have various degrees of, various levels of reliability. And, that's why it's something we've invested a lot of time in, is building our own reliability layer on top. so if the GPU falls off the bus or something happens, we user workloads are not affected, and that lets us use a lot more capacity than,Swyx [00:25:30]: YeahAkshat [00:25:30]: You as a user would be able to.Swyx [00:25:32]: It's a useful thing to have because like now everyone knows, like, what layer you are and, like, you optimize for being the super cloud of all clouds.Akshat [00:25:41]: Yeah. That's, that's, that's the idea. and so I guess when you mentioned colocation, that's, that's another interesting thing where, one thing we've seen is people come to us when they want, very specifically located, CPUs or GPUs, like they wantSwyx [00:25:57]: Oh, they pin it in likeAkshat [00:25:58]: YeahSwyx [00:25:58]: EU?Akshat [00:25:59]: Exactly. Or EU, US.Swyx [00:26:01]: Right. Data resiliencyAkshat [00:26:02]: AustraliaSwyx [00:26:02]: Locality thing or performance or what?Akshat [00:26:04]: It's either data locality or latency, yeah.Swyx [00:26:07]: Yeah.Akshat [00:26:07]: Like, you want your. They're running sandboxes and model. They want them to be right next to aSwyx [00:26:10]: Yeah, it's easy thenAkshat [00:26:11]: YeahSwyx [00:26:12]: To. That is important in all those things. and so, like, you've accidentally, I don't know if it's accident, but, like, you've built the perfect primitive for agents to express themselves. And then, like, it's almost very funny how every extra development just involves more file system, just involves more CPU.Akshat [00:26:30]: Yeah.Swyx [00:26:31]: Just like the things that you already have. I don't know much about, if there's any, like, networking usages that are interesting, but you've also done some good work on networking.Networking, Sidecars, Private IPv6, and SandboxesAkshat [00:26:40]: Yeah, that's exactly right. Like, we're just taking compute storage and networking and building stuff on that layer, for, again, the stuff people need.Swyx [00:26:49]: YeahAkshat [00:26:50]: We see a few interesting networking things coming up. one is people want networked sandboxes. so we haveSwyx [00:26:57]: For like a Docker cluster type thing.Akshat [00:26:59]: Yeah.Swyx [00:26:59]: Sorry, Docker Swarm. Oh, f**k. What is it called?Akshat [00:27:02]: Compose.Swyx [00:27:03]: Compose type thing.Akshat [00:27:04]: Yeah. So if you want Docker Compose, our sandboxes now support, this thing called sidecars. So you can. A sandbox is a pod of containers, and you can run multiple containers in, a sandbox. also useful because, going back to networking, people want a lot of control over, outbound networking from a sandbox.Swyx [00:27:23]: Yeah.Akshat [00:27:23]: Like, they might wanna run a middle proxy for, like, maybe logging stuff for RL or, controlling how egress can happen to a domain, injecting credentials. and yeah. So we've, we've had to build a lot of that stuff ourselves.Swyx [00:27:38]: Yeah.Akshat [00:27:39]: But then also sometimes people want, sandboxes spanning multiple nodes to talk to each other, which is an emerging thing we're seeing. We have support for that for a different reason, and yeah, we'll see if that becomes stable.Swyx [00:27:52]: Like, just an open socket. It's a. This is directly like mTLS.Akshat [00:27:56]: We do support that, which is you can, expose a tunnel inside a sandbox.Swyx [00:28:01]: Yeah.Akshat [00:28:01]: And then you can either expose it to public internet or it can be, you can add like a HTTP, auth layer above it. But we have this thing called I6PN, which we haven't talked about, which is this, like, overlay network using IPv6 addresses. so if Modal containers, within the same workspace, when this is enabled, can address each other using this private IPv6 address, and no one else can.Akshat [00:28:28]: So it's like private networking, for containers. We built it because we needed it as a primitive for our distributed training product. so we have this other feature, which is you can add a decorator to a function, and you get a cluster of GPUs. and they have RDMA networking. so you can run a distributed training job, that's truly serverless. and we did the overlay network for that. But then we've seen that people are using it for other reasons, and, I'm intrigued to yeah, what would people do with it.Swyx [00:28:59]: Build primitives and let people figure it out, right?Akshat [00:29:01]: Yeah, exactly.Swyx [00:29:02]: You put out a pretty interestingAkshat [00:29:03]: They're like, they read the docs webpage. Let me use thatSwyx [00:29:06]: YeahAkshat [00:29:06]: Something they never intended to work. This is literally not even in our docs page. People somehow found it, and they're using it.RDMA, Memory Movement, and Distributed TrainingSwyx [00:29:12]: Huh.Swyx [00:29:14]: The way you portrayed it with, like, RDMA versus TCP, like, very well laid out, but just the transfer speed change at scale for RL, like yeah, you have it, you have it built in. I'm sure someone found it. It's found it to be a lot more efficient before you made a thing out of it, right?Akshat [00:29:32]: Yeah. And not to split hairs, I guess the overlay network is the TCP overlay network.Akshat [00:29:39]: The reason we have that is you need that to do the key exchange for RDMA before you set up the RDMA network on top of that. but then people found the TCP part.Swyx [00:29:48]: Can I tell you, this is like a big aha moment for me becauseAkshat [00:29:51]: YeahSwyx [00:29:51]: So I review 2,200 submissions for the World's Fair.Akshat [00:29:56]: Yeah.Swyx [00:29:57]: And then I got this from John OsterhoutAkshat [00:29:58]: HuhSwyx [00:29:59]: Who I don't know if. Do John Osterhout by name?Akshat [00:30:01]: The name sounds familiar.Swyx [00:30:02]: He published a. He's a well-known professor, published a lot of interesting software design books, and this is the talk he chose to submit, is on RDMA at Inference. And I'm like, you wouldn't think that this guy, who is like operating systems guy, would care about RDMA.Akshat [00:30:20]: I, it makes sense to me because I,Swyx [00:30:24]: This is the cloud, right? YeahAkshat [00:30:25]: Like, the way you move around your KV cache and how efficiently you can do it, how efficiently you move, your weights from your training GPUs to your inference GPUs in RL is there's a lot of degrees of freedom, and it is a systems problemSwyx [00:30:41]: YeahAkshat [00:30:41]: Moving memory aroundSwyx [00:30:42]: YeahAkshat [00:30:43]: Scheduling.Swyx [00:30:44]: This shows you how primitive my understanding of networking stuff is.Swyx [00:30:46]: Is this like the domain of WireGuard as well?Akshat [00:30:50]: Not quite.Swyx [00:30:51]: It's adjacent?Swyx [00:30:53]: Explain everything.Akshat [00:30:54]: Sure.Swyx [00:30:56]: How do we move memory around GPUs?Akshat [00:30:58]: Well, so sorry. Yeah, that is memory. Sorry, I was talking more, and maybe I was talking like five minutes back, about the private IPv6, addressing that you've set up.Swyx [00:31:09]: Yeah.Akshat [00:31:09]: Is it like it's a VPN?Swyx [00:31:10]: Yeah, it is like a VPN, and yeah, WireGuard is, yeah, you're right. It is,Akshat [00:31:16]: Right. Yeah, you already moved on to new topicsSwyx [00:31:17]: A similarAkshat [00:31:18]: OkaySwyx [00:31:19]: In the same space, WireGuard is, encrypted and this is,Akshat [00:31:23]: And you don't need encryption.Swyx [00:31:23]: Yeah.Akshat [00:31:24]: Yeah.Swyx [00:31:24]: This is not encrypted. that's the main difference. This is TCP and we have eBPF programs that will reject or allow the TCP connection based on whether you're allowed to do it.Akshat [00:31:35]: Used to involve a full sidecar, but now you have eBPF in the Linux kernel.Swyx [00:31:39]: Yeah.Akshat [00:31:40]: Yeah. I don't know if this is a natural follow-on to the topic of like my skepticism on distributed training is that while, like, people spend a lot of money on, like, cables to hook up GPUs, and even that is not, like, fast enough, and that's the bottleneck, is your networking fast enough?Swyx [00:31:59]: Yeah. So I guess you're talking about fully distributed training like, Dialog or something which is like cross data centerAkshat [00:32:06]: That would be, yes.Swyx [00:32:07]: That's the extreme.Akshat [00:32:08]: Yeah.Swyx [00:32:08]: You're in the middle, and then other people would have like the Mellanox cables up in, like, their actual data center.Akshat [00:32:14]: When you run multi-node training on Modal, RDMA, I think Mellanox, is, or InfiniBand is like a, is all seen as RDMA. but it's a way to bypass the TCP networking stack and, transfer, stuff much faster, between one node, to the other. And we have I think like 3 terabit per second, internal networkingSwyx [00:32:40]: OkayAkshat [00:32:40]: Which is the standard that's needed.Swyx [00:32:42]: Okay. So I misunderstood whatAkshat [00:32:43]: 50Swyx [00:32:43]: What part of the stack you wereAkshat [00:32:44]: 50 gigs overSwyx [00:32:45]: YeahAkshat [00:32:45]: If you wentSwyx [00:32:45]: YeahAkshat [00:32:46]: RDMA.Swyx [00:32:46]: Okay.Swyx [00:32:48]: Yeah. I, very impressive work.Multi-Node Training, Post-Training, and Auto ResearchSwyx [00:32:52]: So effectively you're extending like the model philosophy to the training cluster, like, yeah.Akshat [00:32:59]: Yeah. And we're, we're not going for like large scale training runs. the thing that we've built multi-node training for is, we see a lot of, smaller scale post-training. like, people are post-training like medium sized fund models, so they can, get higher quality on inference. this is a perfect fit, for something like that.Swyx [00:33:21]: Yeah. That is my impression of how a lot of these labs explore branches in post-training and then eventually merge whatever they find in.Akshat [00:33:31]: Yeah. The other use case we've seen for multi-node training is even if you have a big cluster, your researchers are still doing small runsSwyx [00:33:38]: YesAkshat [00:33:39]: Having elasticity thereSwyx [00:33:40]: Right, sureAkshat [00:33:40]: Matters a lot more.Swyx [00:33:41]: Yeah. the, like, this is like the current limiting factor for auto research, which is like you need to give your model some GPUs in order for it to completely run.Akshat [00:33:51]: We have a blog post on auto resource and model is,Swyx [00:33:55]: YeahAkshat [00:33:56]: Yeah, like, turns out to be pretty good substrate for that.Swyx [00:33:59]: So my impression is auto research means many things, likeAkshat [00:34:01]: YeahSwyx [00:34:01]: Anything that Andrej coins. Right now it's still science fair, right? Like not like, I don't know how many people are doing this.Akshat [00:34:08]: We're having a golf.Swyx [00:34:08]: Yeah.Akshat [00:34:09]: I thought the same thing.Swyx [00:34:11]: Yeah, you would know.Akshat [00:34:12]: We, like, our internal both training and inference teams use this the general shape of this quite a bit. like we have this one internal repo called auto inference, which essentially we've automated our own forward-deployed engineering efforts using, this harness, which is, the agent will just spin up a sweep of different things. It'll even run like, NVIDIA inside profiler and it'll like tweak configs and it'll arrive the right thing. it'll change your GPUs both from H200 to B200, and works really well.Swyx [00:34:47]: Nice.Akshat [00:34:47]: So yeah.Swyx [00:34:48]: By the way, I enjoy that your forward-deployed engineering is so technical that you have to do these things.Swyx [00:34:52]: It's very different from forward-deployed engineering from other people.Akshat [00:34:54]: Yeah. For our forward-deployed engineering team is, essentially they're like applied inference researchers or applied training researchers.Swyx [00:35:02]: Someone told me like they have to be able to build, but they also have to be able to sell. do they have to sell or are they like they're good, they're just like post-sale type of thing?Akshat [00:35:09]: It does, being able to talk to a customer and engage effectively with themSwyx [00:35:13]: YeahAkshat [00:35:13]: Matters a lot.Swyx [00:35:14]: They want the same thing.Akshat [00:35:15]: Yeah.Swyx [00:35:15]: ?Akshat [00:35:15]: But it's it's not really a sales, thing. We pair them with-- We have solution architects as well that are more on the sales side.Swyx [00:35:23]: Okay. Let's spend a bit more time on auto research. This is a big focus for for this year. Where does this go? like, have people explored enough? Like, there's all these beautiful charts of like improve and then level off a bit and then you find the next thing. Is this one abstraction up from normal training? Is that how we think about it, or do you think about it differently? Like model level training versus high, like driven hyperparameter search.Auto Inference and Modal BenchAkshat [00:35:51]: Yeah, like,Swyx [00:35:51]: Someone, some people call it like neural architecture search or whatever, right? Like.Akshat [00:35:54]: Yeah, - So the stuff I've seen people do with it is nowhere on the architecture level. It's pretty much tweaking parameters, but it's it's a hyperparameter sweep that's guided by some model intuition, so it's like much more efficient than, whatever other, sweep you would have.Swyx [00:36:12]: Yeah, it's just, it's just a question of where you want to spend your compute?Akshat [00:36:16]: Right.Swyx [00:36:16]: ‘Cause yeah, you can just throw infinite amounts of money on this and somehow you'll bang out Shakespeare?Akshat [00:36:22]: Yeah, infinite monkey.Swyx [00:36:24]: Yeah, so like the very good for model. and I think it's also very important that agents can spin up other agents, can spin up their infrastructure. Like very good for you. how good is our LLMs at generating model code? Like the benefit of existing LLMs is that you are in the data.Akshat [00:36:42]: Yeah. They're, they're surprisingly good. I think like pre Cloud 4 they were not, and then now they're able to shot, stuff out of the box. But we're playing around with releasing like a Modal Bench for like the harderSwyx [00:36:55]: YeahAkshat [00:36:55]: Things, that the LLMs cannot do yet and maybeSwyx [00:36:59]: What's an example of that?Akshat [00:37:01]: I think the things that- Sometimes agents struggle with, without right guidance and a skill is, how to, use the rest of our observability. Like how to. Something is failing, like how do you look at the logs and then update the right thing? It's reasoning about that. But they're able to shot, likeSwyx [00:37:23]: Yeah. You can just add a skill to it?Compute Strategy and Capacity PlanningAkshat [00:37:26]: Yeah. So we have a Modal skill now that. Which is why we built this Modal Bench. It's to find things like that, so we can address them in our tool.Swyx [00:37:35]: Tune a skill. Yeah.Akshat [00:37:36]: Yeah.Swyx [00:37:36]: No. it's it's good. are you facing any shortages? like we talk a lot about GPU shortages, but also CPU, also memory.Swyx [00:37:44]: Yeah.Akshat [00:37:45]: We have had a lot of growth, which means that, there's - we've had to be much better aboutSwyx [00:37:53]: PlanningAkshat [00:37:54]: Proactive capacity planning.Swyx [00:37:55]: Yeah.Akshat [00:37:55]: So we have,Swyx [00:37:57]: Which by the way, like it's like a MBA's like dreamAkshat [00:38:00]: YesSwyx [00:38:00]: Is like just planning this stuff. I think last time you and I talked about something maybe about this.Akshat [00:38:03]: Yeah. we have a really competent team of people that we call, The role is called compute strategy. so yeah, if anyone listening here or wants to work on thatSwyx [00:38:13]: Compute strategy?Akshat [00:38:13]: Yeah.Swyx [00:38:14]: I think,Akshat [00:38:14]: I feel like,Swyx [00:38:15]: I think the normies call it FP&A or something.Akshat [00:38:18]: Well, it's more It's it's not FP&A. It's it's There's a lot of interesting financial questions of like what is the blend between one year and three-year reservations? how do we forecast our own capacity? how do we. especially since our capacity is very fungible across different GPU types and different regions, like you have to model a lot of it. and you also have to have an opinion on how the supply chain is gonna evolve, and then you have to like, take bets,Swyx [00:38:49]: YeahAkshat [00:38:49]: Based on that.Swyx [00:38:50]: Tokenomics.Akshat [00:38:50]: Yeah.Swyx [00:38:51]: This is like probably a not a real point, but, I was trying to think about like what other industries. I was trying to think about like, we cannot be first to like these kinds of problems.Akshat [00:38:59]: Yeah.Swyx [00:39:00]: And what other industries have had this? And I was like, airlines with fuel and like they have to hedge their fuel and like, I think for a long time Southwest because they made like a hero fuel bet, they like were like super low cost becauseAkshat [00:39:12]: OhSwyx [00:39:12]: Compared to everyone else.Akshat [00:39:14]: Yeah. I hadn't thought about that.Vibhu [00:39:16]: We're at a fun time too?Akshat [00:39:18]: Yeah. It's. A lot of the compute business in general, for us is also about being very good about capacity management. That is how you have great unit, economics. but also over time it's how you can unlock more value for customers. Like, one of the things we're building now is like a way for customers to get, If they don't care about latency, like get much cheaper pricing and they'll get results back in like next 24 hours or something, like a batch tier essentially.Batch Tiers and Latency-Insensitive WorkloadsSwyx [00:39:47]: Yeah.Akshat [00:39:47]: And those are levers we have because we control the whole stack and scheduling and whatnot to give people a sufficientSwyx [00:39:53]: Yeah. I feel like they're not as popular. Like those, like the Frontier Labs have all those APIs. They're not as popular as they should be.Akshat [00:40:00]: The demand that we see for something like that is not for LLMs. although sometimes people wanna run evals andSwyx [00:40:08]: OkayAkshat [00:40:08]: Synthetic data prep and there it makes sense.Swyx [00:40:10]: Okay.Akshat [00:40:11]: But it's from a lot of LLM companies, like people who are doing computational bio, like they have to run really big batch jobs and they don't care about when they get it back.Swyx [00:40:22]: Yeah. And like they have a reasonable. It's it's also like a cousin to the stopping problem of like, will this finish in time?Akshat [00:40:30]: Yeah. You can bound it.Swyx [00:40:33]: Yeah.Akshat [00:40:33]: Like you can give peopleSwyx [00:40:34]: YeahAkshat [00:40:34]: SLAs on it.Swyx [00:40:35]: Yeah. I think what's, what's interesting is like the next phase of model.Swyx [00:40:38]: Like what, do people expect from you, now that you're established and you're like well-known compute player among all these leading companies. You had an inference launch week, and we talked a little bit about the launches. like what else? Like what else should people know?What Modal Builds NextAkshat [00:40:55]: We are building primitives that make our users' lives much easier. So, I think for example, with LLM inference, thousands more companies are gonna post-train their own models and, deploy open source models for inference. so we're thinking a lot about what is the best product shape for that. And, that involves everything from our training gym to, then, endpoints that get frontier-level performance. again, but I haven't talked to anyone. It looks somewhat different on other verticals. Like, we're also seeing a lot of real-time, audio-video stuff in there, which is why like, we're working on things like regional routing, with fallbacks. So you can get GPUs that are as close to users as possible. so you get like low latency for video streaming and whatnot. And then on the agent side, it's,Akshat [00:41:52]: We're still working very closely with our customers because stuff is changing so fast in terms of what they need. And, I think beyond sandboxes and persistent file systems, there's a lot of other things people will need from this agent stack as they build production agents. So yeah, we're thinking about those other things that fit in there.Swyx [00:42:13]: I want to ask what the other things are.Akshat [00:42:15]: Yeah. I probably should share right now.Swyx [00:42:17]: I think-- I think, okay, so, I do think a lot about the principal components of cloud, and you do talk about compute storage networking.Akshat [00:42:25]: Yeah.Swyx [00:42:25]: Because so far for me, it's fine. so far for the. the first couple generations of cloud, it's fine. What's different, qualitatively different about agents that you need some new permission level? Like a lot of people, okay, and I'll just kinda spew tokens at you until it like hopefully sparks something.Akshat [00:42:43]: Yeah.Swyx [00:42:44]: Like the new level now is whatever Claude Code does, which is dangerously scope permissions or like allow list by command or like whatever, right? And sometimes they're like, “Well, okay, we have like this adaptive thinking mode where like, just trust me, bro. I will make the calls for you.” Is that it? like mediated permissions.Hard Guardrails vs. LLM-Mediated PermissionsVibhu [00:43:03]: Now you're looping it with a goal and letting it roll.Akshat [00:43:06]: Yeah, I'm, I'm skeptical of LLM media permission for stuff that is at the sandbox level because you do want hard boundaries.Swyx [00:43:16]: Yeah.Akshat [00:43:16]: Otherwise, someone can exfiltrate stuff.Swyx [00:43:20]: But likeAkshat [00:43:20]: YeahSwyx [00:43:20]: Maybe that's old school thinking. Maybe we're the dinosaurs.Swyx [00:43:23]: Maybe the AI OS or the LLM OS is really the kernel is a goddamn LLM.Swyx [00:43:30]: Like it makes you feel uncomfortable.Akshat [00:43:31]: Yeah, I'm, I'm toldSwyx [00:43:32]: But that's what trusting the LLM is. Like imagine a spherical cow perfect LLM.Akshat [00:43:36]: Right.Swyx [00:43:37]: That it.Akshat [00:43:39]: Maybe.Swyx [00:43:41]: I wanna test the boundaries, right?Akshat [00:43:42]: Yeah.Swyx [00:43:42]: Like, and I don't believe that, but I wanna see where I'm wrong ‘cause that's, that's the consensus.Akshat [00:43:49]: Yeah. I think you always need hard guardrails when you want, And you can pair those with softer guardrails, right? And that's gonna be a lot of mediated.Managed Agents and Specialized SandboxesSwyx [00:44:00]: There. I'll also get you a end with a couple of your commentary on like the ecosystem outside of Modal. Manage agents. Everyone has one. Gemini, OpenAI, Claude, very useful for you, but also like it is their way of starting to edge into your space.Akshat [00:44:17]: Yeah.Swyx [00:44:17]: What's going on?Akshat [00:44:19]: Yeah, we're, very excited to partner with Anthropic and some of the other foundation labs, will not name who we're also working with. the way we see it is the manage agent thing is a great place to start if you're starting out building an agent and, But then when you get to, building something more production grade, like you're a company that's like Ramp that's building their own, Ramp also runs their accounting agent on us, so their external-facing agent. You need a lot more control over, your compute primitive on things like, what sort - how do you persist different files that the agent has access to, and how do you snapshot and restore? How do you control the networking? maybe you want GPUs. When you get to that point, you kinda want, a specialized sandbox provider, that gives you those things, and that's the role that we are trying to play.Swyx [00:45:15]: YeahAkshat [00:45:16]: We don't really have an opinion on the harness, whether it runs - it's a cloud-managed agent, and you hook it up to Model Sandbox, or you run the harness in Model Sandbox. We'll see where people converge with that.Swyx [00:45:26]: Yeah. Do you any opinions on like the meta harnesses, or just another layer on top of these things?Akshat [00:45:31]: You mean like the OpenPipeSwyx [00:45:33]: OpenPipe is one. I think Vercel had one, which I can't remember the name of right now. Fredshot had one. and then, to me, most recently was Data Databricks that had Omnigen. All these are meta harness. Like it's kinda pseudo agent cloud type things.Akshat [00:45:50]: I personally have not played around with them.Swyx [00:45:53]: Yeah.Akshat [00:45:53]: Build agents with them.Swyx [00:45:54]: Everything's bullish Modal, as long as it consumes more infra.Akshat [00:45:57]: That's why we're focusing on the infra layer. It's somewhere where our, relative competence is and, also it's a hard problem to solve.Swyx [00:46:06]: Yeah. I will say like just generally reflecting on that, I don't know if - if there's other topics on Modal, but like just generally reflecting as an infra person, not as intense as you, but in that field, this has like been the most exciting time in infra. Like it was boring for a while, and you couldn't really get people excited about data infrastructure. Like Eric would get on Data Console, everyone just watched the video and like say, “Look at how many sandboxes I can spin up,” and no one gave a crap.Why Infrastructure Became Exciting AgainAkshat [00:46:39]: Yeah.Swyx [00:46:40]: And like now everyone gives a crap.Akshat [00:46:42]: That's true. It is a very exciting time, and I think a lot of that's driven by just the amount of scale all of this stuff needs.Swyx [00:46:50]: I think the, like a lot of your initiatives or a lot of your like product directions make sense in retrospect, which is like the best kind, but I wouldn't necessarily have thought about it myself, which.Akshat [00:47:00]: We need the predictions.Swyx [00:47:02]: I think there's a lot that you just don't even see, right? Like you have the batch, you have the voice, you have the multimodal, but what else?Akshat [00:47:10]: What else is coming up for usSwyx [00:47:11]: Yeah. Where do you see things going?Akshat [00:47:13]: Yeah. I, in generalBiotech, Robotics, and Non-LLM AI WorkloadsAkshat [00:47:15]: It's it's clear that there's there's a huge shift happening. I think one thing that's not as obvious to people because LLM inference gets talked about so much and is also we work a lot of companies that are, doing things like drug discovery and computational bio, like the Chai Discoveries of the world. Big things are probably gonna happen there. we work a lot of robotics companies that are putting robots in like active deployments and getting good results out of them.Swyx [00:47:45]: Is there Air Gap Modal? Is there a version that is like prem air gapped whatever?Akshat [00:47:50]: No. We,Swyx [00:47:51]: You should cloud only.Akshat [00:47:51]: Yeah.Swyx [00:47:52]: Yeah. Okay. But yeah, so what you're saying is like because you're focused on primitives and they're good primitives, you find use cases in all these kinds of things.Akshat [00:48:01]: Yeah.Swyx [00:48:01]: Probably diversifies you a little bit away from LMS all the time.Akshat [00:48:05]: Yeah, absolutely. We're, we'- our goal isn't to only serve the LLM inference market.Swyx [00:48:10]: There are a lot just on the website, the audio,Akshat [00:48:12]: Yeah. We said both onSwyx [00:48:14]: Computational bio images. Yeah, there's a lot here. There's QTA TTS, customizing. Oh, Chatterbox. there was customizing Whisper.Akshat [00:48:24]: Okay. Yeah.Swyx [00:48:25]: This screen reminds me of a fallen competitor, which Replicate.Model APIs vs. Differentiated AI ProductsSwyx [00:48:31]: What's your postmortem on what happened?Akshat [00:48:34]: This is one thing we've stayed away from is providing an API for models because I think providing model APIs is some of it ends up serving like a really hobbyist market, which is much less sticky.Swyx [00:48:50]: Yeah.Akshat [00:48:50]: And we've always wanted to build for companies that are building products and need more flexibility that's not just an API.Swyx [00:48:57]: Which you can build an API for a model and this is clearly what it is. But you - but what you're saying, you can wrap it into a more fully functioning back end that you run.Akshat [00:49:06]: Yeah. So all of our examples, it's not that spin up this model, here's an API token, use it. They're all code.Swyx [00:49:13]: Okay.Akshat [00:49:13]: And so the point is that this is just an example.Swyx [00:49:16]: Starter code.Akshat [00:49:17]: Yeah. But you can tweak it however you want.Swyx [00:49:20]: Yeah.Akshat [00:49:21]: And if you're like a company building a product, like, computational bio whatnot, yeah.Swyx [00:49:26]: I guess I'm trying to tease out for listenersAkshat [00:49:28]: YeahSwyx [00:49:28]: When does it stop becoming, oh, you're just an API call and you're just a wrapper on API to becoming what you call a product, right?Swyx [00:49:36]: Like, what is that layer? Like what-- Like, more lines of code, but like beyond that, what is the substance that people add that qualifies it to be something more?Akshat [00:49:46]: I think there's a little bit of like a selection effect of like a lot of the companies who do wanna get deeper into that level are probably building something that's more differentiated. And, I think, an example is like - with LLM inference, originally we, worked with companies that were building their own post-training frameworks or they were, - Ramp early in the day was training their own tokenizer and like swapping out the tokenizer in Llama and whatnot. I'm not saying that's, that successful, in that case. But a better example is like, let's say Suno. because Suno, does not use Modal for training.Swyx [00:50:26]: Mikey on the pod. Yeah.Akshat [00:50:27]: But they use Modal for all their inference and that's because they have like a custom-- They have completely custom model architecture and that means that they have to be at the code level and tweak things that are not, just an API.Swyx [00:50:41]: It's interesting as well, like we had, Ethan, most recently on the xAI Groq team make a prediction that like the next tier in video gen is not a better video model, it's a better model or agent that orchestrates video models.Video Agents and Production WorkflowsAkshat [00:50:56]: Oh, interesting.Vibhu [00:50:56]: Language model backbone that can use toolsAkshat [00:50:58]: RightVibhu [00:50:59]: And write code.Akshat [00:51:00]: Like, yes, I can make my second video or my second video from Groq, but I want my minute video.Akshat [00:51:06]: And I'm not going there through normal video gen.Swyx [00:51:10]: Yeah, that's interesting. I - So we have GPU sandboxes and recently have seen a few companies doing agents that do video manipulation or,Akshat [00:51:22]: Yeah. Give it FFmpeg and just do it.Swyx [00:51:23]: Run FFmpeg. But likeAkshat [00:51:25]: That's not enough.Swyx [00:51:25]: Yeah.Akshat [00:51:26]: You need to give it Adobe.Swyx [00:51:27]: Yeah, I hadn't put it together with like it would be a video production thing. in my mind these things were going more towards editingAkshat [00:51:36]: Yeah.Vibhu [00:51:36]: Well, shout out Mantis.Akshat [00:51:37]: I think about this a lot.Swyx [00:51:38]: .Akshat [00:51:41]: Yeah. Sorry.Vibhu [00:51:41]: Luma. Luma Agent is a version of this for video production, but it's a off.Swyx [00:51:46]: I was gonna get your quick takes, on some other stuff that happensGitpod/Ona, CI, and Runtime SandboxesSwyx [00:51:50]: In recent news and just-just see if you have anything interesting. Gitpod, very li
There's a problem that's bugged the database industry since the 1980s: you run an expensive query over millions of rows, cache the result, and then a single new row arrives. Logically that's one small update, but most engines throw the cached answer away and recompute everything from scratch. Some will handle changes incrementally, but only for "simple" queries - and the rules for what counts as simple are arbitrary and brittle. So can you incrementally maintain *any* SQL query, no matter how complex? For decades the answer was no. Then an award-winning paper called DBSP proved that the answer is yes - all queries are simple enough.Joining me to explain how that works is Lalith Suresh, CEO of Feldera, the company built on top of DBSP. We start with the problem itself, then trace how a group of VMware researchers arrived at it from the unlikely direction of Kubernetes and network control planes. Lalith walks through Z-sets, the weighted data structure that turns database changes into something you can add and subtract, and the four DBSP operators - including one borrowed straight from digital signal processing - that let you compile any SQL program into an incremental version deterministically. Along the way we get into which operations need state and which don't, how the delta join falls out for free, building a standalone query engine with its own storage layer and Calcite front-end, backfills as the real Achilles heel, and how this all differs from stream processors like Kafka Streams and Flink.If you've ever fought with materialized views that won't refresh, watched a nightly batch job recompute three years of data to capture last night's changes, or you're just curious how one elegant bit of maths unifies batch and stream processing, Lalith has some genuinely satisfying answers. There's an MIT-licensed open source edition and a sandbox at try.feldera.com if you want to play along.---Support Developer Voices on Patreon: https://patreon.com/DeveloperVoicesSupport Developer Voices on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DeveloperVoices/joinFeldera: https://www.feldera.com/Feldera Sandbox (try it online): https://try.feldera.com/Feldera on GitHub (open source): https://github.com/feldera/felderaDBSP Rust crate: https://crates.io/crates/dbspDBSP Paper - "Automatic Incremental View Maintenance for Rich Query Languages" (VLDB 2023 Best Paper): https://arxiv.org/abs/2203.16684Mihai Budiu - "Streaming Queries Without Compromise" (Current 2024): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn1Yaxwl6x8Mihai Budiu - DBSP talk at CMU Database Group: https://db.cs.cmu.edu/events/dbsp-incremental-computation-on-streams-and-its-applications-to-databases/Differential Dataflow: https://github.com/TimelyDataflow/differential-dataflowApache Calcite (Feldera's SQL front-end): https://calcite.apache.org/Kafka Streams: https://kafka.apache.org/documentation/streams/Apache Flink: https://flink.apache.org/ksqlDB: https://ksqldb.io/Apache Spark: https://spark.apache.org/Snowflake: https://www.snowflake.com/Databricks: https://www.databricks.com/Kris on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/krisajenkins.bsky.socialKris on Mastodon: http://mastodon.social/@krisajenkinsKris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krisjenkins/
Welcome to episode 362 of The Cloud Pod, where the weather is always cloudy! Justin, Jonathan, and Matt are in the studio, and this week we've got slightly less AI, but much more data news – a trend Jonathan is sure will continue. Join us as we explore Kubernetes updates, the end of Amazon Mechanical Turk, and the last of the physical media for game consoles, plus more. There's a lot to cover, so let's get started! Titles we almost went with this week Going Cold Turk-ey Kubernetes Rollbacks Let You Ctrl-Z Your Cluster Answer Engine Optimization Is the New SEO Game Turk-ing Point: Amazon Pulls the Plug Stop Chasing Ephemeral IPs in Your EKS Cluster Firewall Rules That Know Your Pods by Name CloudWatch Pipelines Finally Speaks Fluent OpenTelemetry Sony Discs You, Keeps Your Money Forever EKS Upgrades Finally Get an Undo Button Azure Embraces Chaos, Calls It Studio Time Mechanical Turk Turns Off The Lights For Good There Was Never Anyone Inside the Box KV Cache Me If You Can on GKE AWS Security Hub Says Hello to Azure, Finally Amazon Cancels the Internet’s Oldest Side Hustle Amazon Prime's Next Delivery: A Pink Slip for the Turk Business as Usual – Azure announces Chaos Studio? Hello sunshine, my old Azure A big thanks to this week's sponsors: We're sponsorless! Want to get your brand, company, or service in front of a very enthusiastic group of cloud news seekers? You've come to the right place! Send us an email or hit us up on our Slack channel for more info. Follow Up 01:36 Amazon's Mechanical Turk to stop accepting new customers – and not Even AI can save it Amazon is closing Mechanical Turk to new customers, effectively ending the crowdsourced human-labor platform that launched in 2005 and once served as a foundational tool for AI training data labeling. The service predates the current generative AI boom by nearly two decades, originally designed for tasks like image tagging, transcription, and data verification that computers couldn’t handle at the time. Ironically, the rise of AI and large language models has reduced demand for the type of human-in-the-loop micro-tasking Mechanical Turk provided, as automated systems now handle much of that labeling work. Existing customers can reportedly continue using the platform, but the halt on new signups signals that Amazon is deprioritizing the service rather than investing further in it. This closure reflects a broader shift in the AI data pipeline, where synthetic data generation and more sophisticated automated labeling tools are replacing older crowdsourced human-labor marketplaces. 02:14 Justin – “If you ever actually used the service, you’ll know that both the Turks interface that you actually did work, and the setting up the jobs was terrible anyway. It was always very difficult to use, and they never made it easier over the years. So I don’t know if they’ve ever really been investing in it heavily. But it’s definitely been around for a long time.” AI Is Going Great – or How ML Ma
AWS Morning Brief for the week of July, 6th with Corey Quinn. Links:Announcing general availability of Amazon WorkSpaces for AI agentsAmazon CloudWatch supports creating alarms from log queriesECS Service Connect now supports Zone-Aware routingHow InterWiz reduced AI costs by 90% with Amazon BedrockAccelerate your infrastructure deployments by up to 4x with AWS CloudFormation Express modeAutomate public TLS certificate issuance with ACME support in AWS Certificate ManagerUpgrade Amazon EKS clusters with confidence using Kubernetes version rollbacksSafely Releasing Frontier Models to CustomersAccelerating government FinOps with Amazon QuickFour CVEs: AWS reads half your request, leaks the rest
В этом выпуске: цапаем АЦП, федерируем и тестируем Kubernetes, мелем кофе и разбираем темы слушателей. Шоуноты: [00:06:15] Чему научились за неделю Home | mise-en-place Android audio input as source · Issue #1557 · AlexandreRouma/SDRPlusPlus · GitHub UCA202 | Behringer SEGA оригинал, как отличить от клона в 2026 году? — YouTube [01:03:53] Federating Clusters for Zero-Downtime… Читать далее →
Pat Casey was the first person besides founder Fred Luddy to write code at ServiceNow back in 2005, when it was called Glide and lived above a friend's restaurant. Twenty years later, he's CTO of a company where 85% of the Fortune 500 are customers, and until recently ran all of engineering: 10,000 people, 7,000 of them writing code. Almost nobody survives the journey from first engineer to public-company CTO. Pat did. Tobi and Pat dig into how ServiceNow actually works under the hood: a metadata processing engine running 90,000 single-tenant databases and over 25 billion queries an hour, why they bought a 15-person German database company and turned it into RaptorDB, and why tearing apart a 20-year-old monolith is harder than every senior engineer thinks. Then the conversation turns to AI. Pat bought 7,000 Windsurf licenses and measured a real, but unglamorous, 15% productivity bump, with a small subset of engineers going 5–6x while most barely changed. His thesis: AI coding is like playing five chessboards at once, and it's reshuffling the deck on who the top engineers will be. On agents, ServiceNow's answer is disarmingly simple: create a user called "AI Pat," assign it cases, and make it follow the exact same rules as humans because you should not trust an LLM more than you trust a human being. Topics covered: - From Atari 400 and floppy-disk jockey at Aldus to first engineer at ServiceNow - Scaling engineering from a stuffed fish on a monitor to 10,000 people — and the productivity trough at ~100 engineers - Single-tenant architecture: 90,000 databases, 25B+ queries/hour, and the monolith-to-Kubernetes migration - Why ServiceNow bought Swarm64 and built RaptorDB on a Postgres fork - 7,000 Windsurf licenses, Claude Code, and the real numbers on AI coding productivity - "AI Pat": the anthropomorphic model for enterprise agents outcomes, not toolkits - Whether AI kills seat-based SaaS, and why incumbents may have the inside track - Pat's advice to CTOs: this is not a time for excessive caution
In this episode of the Kubernetes Bytes podcast, Bhavin talks to Alex Zenla, Founder and CTO of Edera. The discussion starts by talking about why Alex and team decided to start Edera, where in the stack does it fit in, and how can it work with existing Kubernetes clusters. They also talk about GPU security, what Kubernetes DRA is, and how to plan for the new era of Mythos-class models. Listen to learn more! Check out our website at https://kubernetesbytes.com/ Show Notes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azenla/ https://edera.dev/ https://github.com/azenla https://edera.dev/stories
Malcolm Matalka joins William and Eyvonne to challenge the narrative that Infrastructure as Code (IaC) is dead. Malcolm argues that the real value of IaC was never the syntax, but state and governance. Together they examine whether the state was a file problem at all, or a distributed systems problem in a JSON costume. Episode... Read more »
Malcolm Matalka joins William and Eyvonne to challenge the narrative that Infrastructure as Code (IaC) is dead. Malcolm argues that the real value of IaC was never the syntax, but state and governance. Together they examine whether the state was a file problem at all, or a distributed systems problem in a JSON costume. Episode... Read more »
This week on Shared Security, Tom and Kevin sit down with Jay Beale — founder of InGuardians, long-time Black Hat trainer, creator/contributor behind Kubernetes security training, and part of the team behind the DEF CON Kubernetes CTF. Jay shares stories from decades of offensive security work, including the time Tom hired him for a physical penetration test and Jay somehow ended up inside a call center instead of stuck in the lobby. The crew also digs into what makes good security training, why Kubernetes is such a natural platform for both defenders and attackers to understand deeply, and how the DEF CON Kubernetes CTF is designed to be welcoming for both competitors and learners. The episode closes with a practical look at AI infrastructure risk. Jay explains how production AI stacks running on Kubernetes can be attacked like any other cluster — and how modifying a vector database behind a RAG system can turn indirect prompt injection into a persistent, high-impact attack path.** Links mentioned on the show **Jay's Black Hat USA Course: Agentic AI-aided Kubernetes Attack and Defensehttps://blackhat.com/us-26/training/schedule/index.html?day=4daysattue#agentic-ai-aided-kubernetes-attack-and-defense-51318Jay Beale on LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jaybeale/InGuardianshttps://www.inguardians.com/DEF CONhttps://defcon.org/** Watch this episode on YouTube **https://youtu.be/aMHk62dprDA** Become a Shared Security Supporter **Get exclusive access to bonus episodes, listen to new episodes before they are released, receive a monthly shout-out on the show, and get a discount code for 15% off merch at the Shared Security store. Become a supporter today by going to our YouTube channel's membership section: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg9CCDIYkDDqwEZ3UYaxjnA/join** Thank you to our sponsors! **SLNTVisit slnt.com to check out SLNT's amazing line of Faraday bags and other products built to protect your privacy. As a listener of this podcast you receive 10% off your order at checkout using discount code "sharedsecurity".** Subscribe and follow the podcast **Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SharedSecurityPodcastFollow us on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/sharedsecurity.bsky.socialFollow us on Mastodon: https://infosec.exchange/@sharedsecurityJoin us on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/SharedSecurityShow/Visit our website: https://sharedsecurity.netSubscribe on your favorite podcast app: https://sharedsecurity.net/subscribeSign-up for our email newsletter to receive updates about the podcast, contest announcements, and special offers from our sponsors: https://shared-security.beehiiv.com/subscribeLeave us a rating and review: https://ratethispodcast.com/sharedsecurityContact us: https://sharedsecurity.net/contact
Most engineers think reliability means avoiding outages. Vlad Leyberov learned the opposite lesson: sometimes you have to intentionally cause a 100% outage to fix the system faster.Vlad is a Site Reliability Engineer (SRE) at Google, running systems that handle billions of requests per second. Before Google, he kept critical infrastructure running at Meta (billions of events a day) and Amazon (millions of Alexa devices).In this conversation, we dig into cascading failures, incident responses, why consistency beats speed, how AI changes reliability engineering, and the philosophy behind running systems where downtime doesn't feel like an option.Topics Discussed:How cascading failures propagate unpredictably in distributed systems (like nature, not machines)Incident responses: virtual panic rooms, on-call, paging procedures, and how to narrow down failure pointsThe Alexa incident: why dropping an entire DynamoDB table was the right callCritical User Journeys (CUJ): measuring end-to-end customer experience vs individual SLOsCareer journey from the USSR to maritime academy to business degree in Australia to SRE at Amazon, Meta, and GoogleWhy consistency in API response times beats raw speedHow AI makes it dangerously easy to create complex systems with poorly understood interactionsScience fiction, the Borg as a distributed system, and the Three Body Problem trilogyHot takes on reliability: all software development is maintenance, overrated 9s, underrated global failure modesGeneral Podcast LinksWatch: https://www.youtube.com/@alexasinput Read: https://alexasinput.substack.com/ Listen: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/alexagriffith/ More: https://linktr.ee/alexagriffithLearn more about the hostWebsite: https://alexagriffith.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexa-griffith/Find out more about Vlad LeyberovLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vladleyberov/ Google SRE NYC Tech TalksResourcesGoogle SRE Resources:Google SRE Book: https://sre.google/books/Google Cloud Platform: https://cloud.google.com/Google Cloud Build: https://cloud.google.com/build (service discussed in outage story)Google Cloud Pub/Sub: https://cloud.google.com/pubsub (Vlad's previous role, billions of requests/second)Sci-Fi Books Mentioned:Three Body Problem trilogy by Liu Cixin (Vlad's current favorite)Foundation series by Isaac AsimovLeft Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le GuinSnow Crash by Neal StephensonInternal Google Systems Referenced:Borg: Google's internal cluster management system (Kubernetes predecessor), named after Star Trek BorgDynamoDB: AWS distributed key-value store (used in Alexa poison pill incident)Intro Music:PR1BVOV7R4F1ASZC
#356: Fleet management means one thing to a DevOps engineer and something completely different to Tomas Kovacovsky. To Viktor it is a CD problem - a fleet of Kubernetes clusters he would rather not babysit. To Tomas it is hundreds of physical robots rolling around a warehouse, picking orders, dodging each other, and working very hard not to lose their connectivity. Tomas is the CTO of Brightpick, where the robots are not the kind you yell at for bumping into a chair. They are three-meter-tall autonomous pickers - some telescoping up to six - that find their way using lidar, recognize items with neural networks, and make their own decisions the second the network drops. Here is the part that will feel oddly familiar: everything you already do to ship software shows up again in the physical world. Canary rollouts. Rollbacks to the last good config. Prometheus scraping every robot, Grafana for the fleet. Logs, metrics, traces. Split brain, when a robot and the server disagree about what just happened. Even a flaky robot - one that feels off with no error to point at - gets diagnosed the same way you would hunt a flaky test: compare it against the rest of the population and find the outlier. A warehouse full of robots, running like a distributed system. The stack is what you would guess and also not. C++ on the robots for speed, Python on the backend, Kubernetes on an edge server inside the warehouse because latency matters down to the millisecond, and Git as the source of truth - the on-site servers check for differences and update themselves. GitOps, for robots. Then it gets bigger. The optimal pick speed, Tomas says, is infinity - right up until you try to pick an egg. The real bottleneck was never the picking, it was the traveling, so Brightpick moves the picking into the aisles instead of hauling totes back to a station. He also drops a prediction worth chewing on: the intelligence arrives before the dexterity. Machines will think their way around a warehouse long before they can fish for keys in a bag the way your hand does without looking. And the jobs question everyone braces for - the robot guys walking in, are you fearful for your job in 20 minutes - turns out the picker positions were mostly empty to begin with. Hundreds of thousands of them, unfilled. The takeaway for anyone writing software is the one Tomas lands at the end. The craft is getting eaten. What is left, and what actually matters, is whether you can connect the work to the product. Tomas' contact information: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomas-kovacovsky-46411280/ YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/devopsparadox Review the podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://www.devopsparadox.com/review-podcast/ Slack: https://www.devopsparadox.com/slack/ Connect with us at: https://www.devopsparadox.com/contact/
What if you didn't have to solve problems? You can just remove them entirely. Today, we're talking to Steve Francis, CEO at Sidero Labs, about why the most dangerous thing running in your infrastructure might be the operating system itself. We discuss how eliminating features rather than adding them is the real path to security, why the promise of multi-cloud portability turned out to be a lesson in what customers actually care about, and why "extreme ownership" remains the most empowering philosophy a leader can adopt. All of this right here, right now, on the Modern CTO Podcast! To learn more about Sidero Labs, check out their website here.
Today, we are dropping another episode in our series The AI Control Loop, How enterprises govern the AI they've already deployed - sponsored by our friends at Wallarm.Wallarm is the AI Control Platform for Enterprise AI, protecting every AI workload, API, and application in production, giving CISOs the governance they need and CIOs the speed they demand. Organizations choose Wallarm for a complete inventory of APIs, AI agents, and AI apps, patented AI/ML-based threat detection and blocking that operates at production traffic speeds.We all know that you can't secure what you can't see, which is why AI discovery is a first principle for AI security, but what's really required for AI discovery? It's more than just LLMs and agents. Today's episode is entitled AI Discovery isn't just AI, and joining us is Tim Ebbers, Field CTO at Wallarm. Tim and I discuss the real requirements for AI discovery, and why the connections between assets and infrastructure are part of the puzzle.QuestionsSecurity teams often say, “You can't secure what you can't see.” In the context of AI, what exactly do they need to see? What supporting infrastructure matters most when mapping AI risk, such as APIs, cloud services, Kubernetes workloads, data stores, identities, and external integrations?Where does shadow AI typically appear first inside an enterprise environment? How can it be prevented?How do relationships between assets change the risk picture? For example, why does it matter which API an agent can call or which data source a workflow can reach?What makes AI discovery harder than traditional application or cloud asset discovery? What are the similarities and differences?How should organizations prioritize what they find? Is every AI asset equally risky?What does “continuous discovery” mean in a world where AI services can be deployed, connected, or changed in minutes?Once an organization has visibility into its AI footprint, what's next? What are the biggest gaps in today's AI security programs?Linkshttps://www.wallarm.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/tebbers/Full AbstractMost security teams know that you can't secure what you can't see. In the context of AI, that rule turns out to be a lot harder to satisfy than it sounds.AI discovery isn't just a matter of cataloging your LLMs and agents. The real picture includes the APIs those agents call, the data sources they reach, the infrastructure they run on, and all the AI that got deployed without anyone telling security. Building that picture requires understanding relationships, not just inventories, because risk doesn't live in assets in isolation. It lives in what those assets can do together.In this episode, Tim Ebbers, Field CTO at Wallarm, examines what a complete AI control loop actually requires at the discovery stage: what needs to be visible, why the connections between assets change the risk calculation, where shadow AI tends to appear first and how it becomes unmanaged risk, and what makes AI discovery structurally different from traditional cloud or application discovery. It also looks at what organizations should do once discovery is in place, and where the biggest gaps remain in AI security programs today.If your team is building toward continuous AI governance, this is where that work starts.Our Sponsors:* Check out Cash App and use my code CASHAPP10 for a great deal: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/mt82fpxl #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Cash App Green, overdraft coverage, borrow, cash back offers and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.* Check out Plaud AI and use my code CODESTORY for a great deal: https://plaud.aiAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
The Pope issued a recent encyclical on AI, urging developers to safeguard human agency in the age of artificial intelligence. Eyvonne and William explore this encyclical, moving beyond the headlines to the core message regarding human dignity. They examine how the document provides a values-based framework for evaluating technology and the need for a balanced... Read more »
The Pope issued a recent encyclical on AI, urging developers to safeguard human agency in the age of artificial intelligence. Eyvonne and William explore this encyclical, moving beyond the headlines to the core message regarding human dignity. They examine how the document provides a values-based framework for evaluating technology and the need for a balanced... Read more »
In this episode we speak to Jonathan Grahl. Jonathan is the Team Lead of Infrastructure at Lovable where he oversees the platform stack the company runs on. We talked about Kubernetes, Sandboxes and Chocolate. Do you have something cool to share? Some questions? Let us know: - web: kubernetespodcast.com - mail: kubernetespodcast@google.com - twitter: @kubernetespod - bluesky: @kubernetespodcast.com News of the week OpenTelemetry is a CNCF Graduated Project CNCF TAG Elections KubeCon India Kubernetes Community Days global events Links from the interview Lovable Cilium Etcd Cloudflare Sandbox Agent Sandbox (Kubernetes) OpenClaw Claude OpenAI Bun toolkit for Javascript gVisor Firecracker Kata Containers Vitess