Podcasts about Demand generation

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!For years, the hard part of ops work was building the technology. Now the tech is getting easier while the people and process side is getting harder. So why are so many organizations still stuck debating AI instead of activating it?In this episode, host Michael Hartmann sits down with Andrea Tarrell, President of the Tech Services line at Trilliad and CEO of Sercante. Together, they discussed the human side of change in the AI world with speed, trust, risk tolerance, and the trade-offs GTM teams are making right now.In this episode:Why the technology got easier, but the people and process side got harderHow much of AI adoption is really a trust and change management problem, not a tech oneFear of job replacement vs. plain organizational inertiaAI may not replace your job, but someone using it well may outperform someone who refuses to adaptSolving the tension between "move faster with AI" and "watch out for the risks."What companies get wrong about risk management and tolerance for risk in the AI worldWhy old governance frameworks may not fit a world of fast experimentationAnd a lot more...Whether you lead an ops team or sit inside one, this is a timely conversation about innovation, speed, governance, and practical business reality.If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone in the ops community who would find it valuable.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show

Marketing leaders are being asked to drive more growth with less budget, fewer resources, tighter timelines, and more pressure from every direction while AI is being treated like the shortcut to replace entire marketing teams. But AI will not fix bad strategy, weak alignment, poor customer understanding, or broken marketing fundamentals. In part two of this master class conversation with Matt Hummel, CMO of Pipeline360, the focus moves into what it really takes to become the kind of CMO AI cannot replace. Not by chasing every new tool, adding more MarTech, or hiding behind automation, but by understanding the business as a whole, building trust across departments, speaking the language of revenue, and creating alignment between marketing, sales, product, leadership, and the customer. To lead marketing in a volatile market where expectations keep rising and the old playbook is no longer enough, you need to know how to: • Make sales an ally instead of your bitter rival • Build shared pipeline ownership across marketing and sales  • Communicate risk without becoming defensive • Connect marketing decisions to the larger goals of the business • Set clearer expectations with your team and leadership • Understand resource constraints without using them as excuses • Stay close to customers while leading strategy • Create momentum without pretending there is an easy button The best marketing leaders are not just managing campaigns, tools, reports, and dashboards. They are translating complexity into strategy the business can trust. The reminder is clear: AI will not fix bad strategy. More MarTech will not fix bad marketing. The CMO AI cannot replace is the one who understands the business, earns trust, aligns with sales, leads the team, knows the customer, and gets back to real marketing when everyone else is hiding behind tools. (P.S. If you haven't, listen to Ep. 149 for part one of this masterclass episode) Beyond The Episode Gems: Connect With Matt Hummel on LinkedIn Listen To Troy On Matt's Podcast, Pipeline Brew: The Evolving Role of CMOs & Community Building Visit Pipeline360 website to learn more about how they solve B2B marketers' biggest headaches Buy Troy's Book, Strategize Up: The Blueprint To Scale Your Business StrategizeUpBook.com Discover All Podcasts On The HubSpot Podcast Network Get Free HubSpot Marketing Tools To Help You Grow Your Business Grow Your Business Faster Using HubSpot's CRM Platform Support The Podcast & Connect With Troy:  Rate & Review iDigress: iDigress.fm/Reviews Follow Troy's Socials @FindTroy: LinkedIn, Instagram, Threads, TikTok Subscribe to Troy's YouTube Channel For Strategy Videos & See Masterclass Episodes Need Growth Strategy, A Keynote Speaker, Or Want To Sponsor The Podcast? Go To FindTroy.com  

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!Today, most teams aren't just struggling to build their AI strategies. The real struggle begins when they try to execute their strategies. In this episode of Ops Cast, host Michael Hartmann sits down with David York, Chief AI and Innovation Officer at Helix CXM, to get practical answers about what it really takes for GTM organizations to move from talking about AI to operationalizing it.David has spent years working at the intersection of marketing operations, RevOps, automation, and AI transformation. Together, he and Michael discovered an uncomfortable truth about how most teams are already overwhelmed by manual work, fragmented processes, shadow systems, and operational debt. Piling "figure out AI" on top of all that creates more chaos. In this conversation, you'll hear:Why the gap between AI strategy and implementation is so hard to closeWhat operational excellence actually looks like in practice, and why it has to come firstWhy mapping how work gets done today is the critical first step before introducing AIThe real difference between automation and "automation plus intelligence"How to identify low-risk, high-value AI use cases (like partially manual lead routing) versus harder onesThe hidden costs teams underestimate: tooling, LLM costs, maintenance, and human monitoringWhere human judgment is still absolutely requiredPractical advice on where to start if you're feeling overwhelmed by AI pressure right nowWhether you lead a scrappy SMB or a specialized team inside a large enterprise, this is a grounded discussion about the reality of AI in modern GTM, beyond the hype and the LinkedIn hot takes.David also published a new book this week, AI-Powered Growth: A 7-Step Adoption and Transformation Framework, which goes deeper into how Marketing Ops leaders can systematically prioritize and operationalize AI initiatives. Grab a copy here: https://www.amazon.com/AI-Powered-Growth-7-Step-Adoption-Transformation/dp/B0H2QCZG5M/Enjoy the episode!Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

Marketing leadership has become one of the most volatile seats in business. CMOs and marketing leaders are often expected to create immediate pipeline, prove instant ROI, fix deeper business issues they did not create, defend brand investment, align sales, understand customers, translate strategy across the organization, and still become one of the first functions questioned, blamed, or cut when growth slows. In part one of this master class conversation, Matt Hummel, CMO of Pipeline360, brings a clear reminder back to the table: great marketing starts with trusting the buyer, knowing the customer, and simplifying how you market. In a market obsessed with performance data, attribution, automation, dark social, buyer signals, and immediate results, more complexity does not automatically create better customer understanding. For aspiring CMOs, current CMOs, marketing leaders, founders, and business owners, this conversation is a valuable look at how to lead marketing without getting trapped in the pressure cooker. It challenges you to rethink what it really means to put the customer at the center, not as a tagline, not as another automation workflow, and not as another dashboard filled with signals, but as a deeper responsibility to understand the person, pressure, timing, risk, and decision behind the purchase. The conversation moves through buyer trust, brand versus demand, customer empathy, attribution, sales alignment, CMO pressure, market timing, and the difference between chasing pipeline and building LTV. It is also a reminder to get out of your lane, understand product, spend time with sales, listen to customers, and learn how the whole business works. Because the best CMOs are not just campaign operators. They are translators, mediators, trust builders, and business leaders who know how to connect marketing to revenue, customer experience, and long term growth. Beyond The Episode Gems: Connect With Matt Hummel on LinkedIn Listen To Troy On Matt's Podcast, Pipeline Brew: The Evolving Role of CMOs & Community Building Visit Pipeline360 website to learn more about how they solve B2B marketers' biggest headaches Buy Troy's Book, Strategize Up: The Blueprint To Scale Your Business StrategizeUpBook.com Discover All Podcasts On The HubSpot Podcast Network Get Free HubSpot Marketing Tools To Help You Grow Your Business Grow Your Business Faster Using HubSpot's CRM Platform Support The Podcast & Connect With Troy:  Rate & Review iDigress: iDigress.fm/Reviews Follow Troy's Socials @FindTroy: LinkedIn, Instagram, Threads, TikTok Subscribe to Troy's YouTube Channel For Strategy Videos & See Masterclass Episodes Need Growth Strategy, A Keynote Speaker, Or Want To Sponsor The Podcast? Go To FindTroy.com  

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!What separates a marketing team that drives growth from one that just stays busy?Ondar Tarlow came into marketing from the business side rather than the traditional marketing path, and that lens changes how he reads a P&L, how he allocates budget, and how he earns credibility with finance and the executive team.In this episode of Ops Cast, host Michael Hartmann sits down with Ondar, marketing consultant and former CMO, for a practical conversation about thinking commercially. They get into why so many marketers struggle to articulate how their company actually makes money, how to translate strategy into a budget and investment plan, and how to secure buy-in from the people holding the purse strings without getting blindsided in the room.Michael and Ondar discussed:Why coming from the business side reshapes how you approach marketingThe reason so many marketers can't explain how their business makes moneyWhat separates growth-driving teams from teams stuck executing activityHow to turn strategy into a real budget and investment planThe biggest mistakes leaders make when seeking buy-in from finance and the boardBalancing spend across acquisition, retention, partnerships, and brandWhy minimizing surprises is a hallmark of strong operatorsWhere AI is already creating a practical advantage in research and learningHow cheap access to strategic knowledge changes career development, and its risksWhat community building (Fast Lane Drive, Worn & Driven Magazine) teaches about retentionWhat makes a brand partnership strategically valuable versus just promotionalIf you've ever wanted to be the marketer the executive team actually listens to, this conversation is a roadmap for getting there.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

What does it actually look like to roll out AI at enterprise scale inside one of the world's most recognisable technology companies? Craig Mills, APAC Head of Demand Generation and AI Marketing Transformation Lead at IBM, shares the real story: the internal lockdowns, the false starts, the springtime of ideas that fizzled, and the hard-won clarity that followed. Craig walks through IBM's shift from experimentation to intentional, use-case-driven execution in 2026, with a focus on email marketing as an underrated strategic weapon. He also shares a simple three-part navigation framework any B2B marketer can apply, regardless of the size of their organisation. Guest Introduction Craig Mills is the APAC Head of Demand Generation and AI Marketing Transformation Lead at IBM. With over two decades at IBM, Craig has led marketing transformation across Asia Pacific, focusing on data-driven demand generation and the practical adoption of AI across complex, multi-market enterprise environments. Key Topics IBM's AI adoption arc: from pre-GPT predictive analytics through the GPT moment, internal lockdowns on AI use, the launch of IBM watsonx in 2023, and the shift to focused execution in 2026The "client zero" experience: how IBM employees lived the AI transformation firsthand through changes to HR systems, well before the broader market caught upWhy email marketing is Craig's number one AI use case and how IBM is moving from successful pilots to systematic, micro-targeted execution at scaleMicro-segmentation at enterprise scale: how AI enables hyper-personalised outreach to audience pockets that were previously too small to justify the investmentThe people-process-tools interconnectivity challenge: why enterprise AI is so difficult and why most organisations are still struggling to get it rightCraig's three navigation points for B2B marketers: get closer to customers and partners, get closer to your product, and go fasterBuilding maximum mental flexibility: why clarity of mission is the prerequisite for individual speed and creative agility in an AI-driven environmentThe IBM Enterprise 2030 finding: 79% of executives expect AI to drive significant revenue by 2030, yet only 24% know where it will come from Resources and Links Tools IBM Enterprise 2030 Report -Craig's North Star on AI strategy: 79% of executives expect AI to drive significant revenue by 2030, but only 24% know where it will come from.This Week in Startups -Podcast by Jason Calacanis. Craig recommends it for building a startup mindset inside large organisations.IBM watsonx -IBM's enterprise AI platform, launched May 2023, central to IBM's AI transformation story.Microsoft Copilot -AI productivity tool Craig uses to move faster through emails and meetings.Claude -Anthropic's AI assistant, used by Craig for external customer research. People Mentioned Jason Calacanis -Entrepreneur and host of This Week in Startups. Craig spent a year listening to build a startup mindset within IBM.Ray Dalio -Founder of Bridgewater Associates. Craig follows him for his geopolitical frameworks and historical perspective on the forces shaping the world. Companies IBM -Global enterprise technology and consulting company. Also mentioned  Diablo - The classic video game. Apparently the only thing more addictive than playing with AI tools at midnight.  Contact & Credits Host: Shahin Hoda Guest: Craig Mills Produced by: Shahin Hoda and Alexander Hipwell Edited by: Alexander Hipwell Music by: Breakmaster Cylinder APAC's B2B Growth Podcast is Presented by xGrowth

Most real estate investors focus entirely on outbound lead generation and never build the online presence that captures sellers who are already searching. In this episode, SEO expert Glen Petersen walks through the full playbook, from setting up your website and Google Business Profile to building backlinks and free directory listings that grow your credibility over time. Glen also covers the AI side of search, including how to show up in ChatGPT and Gemini results using platforms like Reddit, YouTube, and Bing Business Profile. If you haven't started building your online presence yet, this episode is your starting point.   KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:37 - Demand Generation vs Demand Capture 2:41 - Defining PPC & When It's Ideal 4:37 - Defining SEO 5:42 - Your Website 6:17 - Your Google Business Profile 7:22 - Additional Pages 9:58 - AI Search Results 13:04 - AIO Quick Hacks 15:06 - Outro   LINKS: Instagram: Glen Peterson https://www.instagram.com/nobleschlen/   Website: Bateman Collective https://www.batemancollective.com/    Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko   Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod   Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments   Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Want to generate real revenue—not just badge scans—at your next trade show? In this episode of Trade Show University, we sit down with Allison French (founder of ShowScout & LTO) to break down how strategic demand generation transforms trade show performance. If you're tired of: Low-quality leads Random booth traffic Weak ROI from expensive events …this conversation will show you how to target the right buyers, align sales and marketing, and turn trade shows into a predictable revenue channel. You'll learn how to: Identify and connect with your ideal attendees BEFORE the show Use data and intent signals to prioritize high-value prospects Align your sales and marketing teams for better results Turn booth conversations into real pipeline opportunities Use strategic incentives (the right way) to drive qualified engagement

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!Why is it so hard for teams to say what they actually think?We nod in meetings, then raise concerns in Slack afterward. We approve work, then reopen it at the last minute. We pile up version 20, 30, 40 of a deliverable, wondering why nothing ever feels finished.In this episode of Ops Cast, host Michael Hartmann sits down with Kira Troilo, founder of Art & Soul Consulting, who brings two decades of theater experience into the world of team collaboration. Her insight is that most teams are stuck in "performance mode," being careful and polite, when what they really need is "rehearsal mode," where it's safe to be messy, disagree early, and surface the truth before it gets expensive.Michael and Kira discussed:Why politeness is a hidden source of inefficiency, and what the "silence tax" actually costs organizationsThe real reason approval cycles balloon into endless rounds of revisionsHow theater's "first rehearsal" tradition translates to designing better team kickoffsWhy tools, workflows, and AI don't fix the underlying communication problemPractical tactics teams can adopt this week to give honest feedback earlierWhether AI and automation make these collaboration challenges better or worseHow leaders can shift from managing output to designing how their teams work togetherIf you've ever felt that rework, fire drills, and misalignment are symptoms of something deeper on your team, this conversation will give you a new lens and a starting point.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

YouTube ads veteran Brett Curry (OMG Commerce) and TikTok Shop expert Jordan West (Social Commerce Club) went back and forth live on what's actually moving the needle for D2C brands right now — and some of their takes are going to sting. Most brands are still treating Google spend as a given, measuring YouTube with click-based attribution that was never built for it, and ignoring a TikTok Shop launch strategy that flips the creator dynamic entirely.Inside the episode:The YouTube Shorts formula that's working in 2026 — why Brett reversed his position, and the 4 things a video must have (including minimum length) before you waste money testing itThe Blitz methodology explained — how Social Commerce Club seeds hundreds of creators in a 24–48 hour window to manufacture momentum and make big creators come to you instead of the other way aroundWhy Jordan thinks most Google spend is a non-incremental tax — and the channel hierarchy he'd use for every D2C brand over $10MThe TikTok Shop–to–Shopify halo effect — the data Jordan's team is seeing that almost nobody is talking about yet"My brand is too premium for TikTok Shop" — Jordan's reframe on why that objection is almost always wrong, and what to ask insteadSponsored by OMG Commerce - go to (https://www.omgcommerce.com/contact) and request your FREE strategy session today!Chapters:[0:00] Introduction: Brett Curry & Jordan West Swap Podcasts[1:09] Why YouTube CPMs Are the Most Underpriced in the Industry[5:00] What's Working on YouTube Shorts: The Framework for Winning Creative[7:57] TikTok Shop Deep Dive: Jordan's Obsession with Demand Generation[10:01] Like, Know, and Trust: Why YouTube Is the Ultimate Brand-Building Platform[11:28] Ad Break: OMG Commerce Omnichannel Growth[12:37] The Blitz Methodology: How Social Commerce Club Concentrates Creator Signal[16:46] Moments vs. Blitzes Explained: Definitions and How They Drive Momentum[19:42] How Far Can Brands Actually Scale on YouTube?[21:53] Why MTA Tools Underreport YouTube: The Case for Incrementality Testing[22:58] The Problem with Multi-Touch Attribution: Jordan's New Halo Tracking Concept[25:17] Incrementality Explained with a Retail Store Analogy[28:43] Rapid Fire YouTube Questions: Mashup Creatives and Repurposing Creator Content[30:53] YouTube Targeting Strategy: Why You Still Need to Feed the Algorithm Signal[32:22] Which Brands Should Be on YouTube But Aren't?[33:09] Hot Take: The Right Ad Spend Hierarchy for D2C Brands[34:43] YouTube vs. Meta by Product Type: Apparel, Problem-Solution, and Omnichannel[37:15] If TV Works, YouTube Should Work: The CTV and Linear TV Connection[38:10] Is Your Brand Too Premium for TikTok Shop? Jordan's Answer[39:42] Why TikTok Shop Is a Fundamentally Different Beast Than TikTok Ads[41:05] Wrap-Up: Where to Find Brett and JordanConnect With Brett:LinkedIn: / thebrettcurryYouTube: / @omgcommerceWebsite: https://www.omgcommerce.com/Request a Free Strategy Session: https://www.omgcommerce.com/contactRelevant Links: Jordan's LinkedIn: jordan-west-marketer/ ‍Past guests on eCommerce Evolution include Ezra Firestone, Steve Chou, Drew Sanocki, Jacques Spitzer, Jeremy Horowitz, Ryan Moran, Sean Frank, Andrew Youderian, Ryan McKenzie, Joseph Wilkins, Cody Wittick, Miki Agrawal, Justin Brooke, Nish Samantray, Kurt Elster, John Parkes, Chris Mercer, Rabah Rahil, Bear Handlon, JC Hite, Frederick Vallaeys, Preston Rutherford, Anthony Mink, Bill D'Allessandro, Stephane Colleu, Jeff Oxford, Bryan Porter and more

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show! Most RevOps advice assumes your organization is already halfway in your success journey. But what happens when you're starting from zero, with no clear blueprint, inconsistent data, and a team that can't agree on how revenue actually works? In this episode, host Michael Hartmann sits down with Chelsea Gill, CMO at Resultant, who recently expanded her role to include RevOps and Customer Experience. What started as a need for better data and process quickly revealed a full-scale management change challenge across the entire organization.Chelsea and Michael discussed:What Chelsea expected when stepping into RevOps and what she actually foundWhy most RevOps frameworks assume more maturity than most teams haveWhat a "beta" version of RevOps actually looks like in practiceHow to change behavior across sales, marketing, and leadership (not just process)The role of empathy and storytelling in building organizational trust around dataWhether marketing has contributed to its own credibility problem inside the businessIf you're going through the messy middle between marketing, sales, and operations, or trying to build RevOps without a roadmap, this episode is a must watch for you.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!In today's episode of Ops Cast by MarketingOps.com, we're going beyond systems, processes, and technology to talk about how Pros are actually doing and executing the work.  Marketing has grown into a measurable revenue engine, but that transformation has come at a cost, and the pressure on operators is now constant, unrelenting, and in many cases, unsustainable.Our guest is Debbie Qaqish, one of the original pioneers of Revenue Marketing and Marketing Operations, and the founder of her new venture, The Growth Factor. Debbie has spent years helping organizations turn marketing into a measurable driver of business growth, and now she's tackling the human side of that shift, focusing on resilience, leadership, and how marketers can perform at a high level without burning out.Key Topics Include:The evolution of Revenue Marketing and where most companies get stuck todayWhat comes next after accountability and measurement defined the last eraHow AI is rebuilding the role of marketing ops and the expectations placed on teamsWhy does the pressure on marketers feel different now than even a few years agoWhat resilience actually looks like in practice for marketing ops and RevOps rolesHow "caveman brain" shows up in high-stress work environments and affects decision-makingSimple resets operators can use when stuck in fight-or-flight modeWhat effective leadership looks like when pace and pressure are this highHow operators can move from surviving to performing at a high levelIf you've been feeling the weight of constant pressure, changing expectations, and the demand to do more with less, this episode will give you a different lens on what's happening and what to do about it.If you're ready to think about performance, leadership, and resilience in a way that actually fits the reality of modern marketing ops, tune in!For leaders looking for a reset, here is the 10-Minute Leadership Reset™ Ops Cast (https://www.growthfactor.us/opscast)Be sure to like, share, and subscribe to join the conversation at MarketingOps.comEpisode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

Most B2B marketers think demand generation and lead generation are the same thing.They're not.And confusing the two is exactly why your pipeline isn't growing.In this episode, we break down the real difference between demand generation vs lead generation — and why most teams are stuck running a system that creates activity, not revenue.We walk through the 5 BE's Framework and show how to shift from chasing leads to building real demand in your market.Tune in and learn:→ Why lead generation breaks at scale→ How demand generation actually builds pipeline→ What most teams get wrong about the 95/5 ruleIf you're under pressure to generate more leads but know something isn't working, this will change how you approach marketing.-----------------------------------------------------

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!In today's episode of Ops Cast by MarketingOps.com, we're breaking the misconception that digital accessibility is just a compliance issue. Instead, we're exploring why accessibility should be viewed as a strategic advantage, a lever for better customer experience, stronger performance, and sustained growth.Our guest is Mike Barton, the leader of Corporate Communications and Content Marketing at AudioEye. He shares how accessibility isn't just about ticking boxes or worrying about lawsuits; it's about enhancing the experience for all customers, creating more inclusive content, and ultimately driving business success.Key Topics Include: • The real definition of digital accessibility and why it's often misunderstood • How accessibility impacts revenue and growth opportunities when ignored • Why designing for accessibility improves the overall customer experience for everyone • Where Marketing and Revenue Ops teams should focus on accessibility through email programs, websites, campaigns, and more • Best practices for ensuring accessibility across different channels • Quick wins for Ops teams to implement accessibility changes without getting overwhelmedIf you haven't thought about accessibility in your workflows, this episode will show you exactly where to start and how to implement changes that will have a lasting impact.If you're ready to take actionable steps to make your marketing, web operations, and campaigns more accessible, tune in!Be sure to like, share, and subscribe to join the conversation at MarketingOps.com.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!What happens when you throw out a nearly finished $500K rebrand… and rebuild it in two months for $22K?In this episode of Ops Cast, Michael Hartmann sits down with Michael Yehoshua, CMO at WiseStamp, to discuss a decision that most marketing leaders would never make and why it worked.Michael walked into an 18-month rebrand that looked polished on the surface but was fundamentally disconnected from real customer insight. Instead of finishing it, he scrapped the entire effort and rebuilt the brand using AI in a completely different way.What followed was not just a faster rebrand, but a change in how decisions get made. From analyzing customer conversations for emotional signals to rethinking how content is structured for LLM-driven discovery. This conversation challenges many of the assumptions behind traditional marketing, SEO, and brand strategy.This is not a tools discussion. It is about how marketing and operations teams need to rethink data, signals, and decision-making in an AI-shaped environment.Topics covered include:• Why a nearly complete $500K rebrand was scrapped• How AI was used to listen to customers instead of just generating content• What analyzing tone, intent, and “aha moments” reveals beyond transcripts• How Marketing Ops teams should think about capturing new types of signals• Why optimizing for LLMs is different from optimizing for traditional search• The shift in content, backlinks, and site structure for AI-driven discovery• Why traffic can drop while conversions improve• What metrics matter when traditional SEO signals become less reliable• Why brand may become more important, not less, in an AI-first worldIf you are in Marketing Ops, RevOps, or growth, this episode forces a hard rethink. Not about tools, but about how decisions should be made going forward.Be sure to like, share, and subscribe to Ops Cast, and join the conversation at MarketingOps.com.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

Carrie Richardson of Fox & Crow Group spoke with Doug Green, Publisher of Technology Reseller News, during the Channel Partners Conference & Expo about how MSPs and channel partners can build more effective demand generation strategies and accelerate growth. Richardson emphasized that many MSPs struggle with consistent lead generation and often rely too heavily on referrals or ad hoc marketing efforts. Fox & Crow Group focuses on helping partners build structured, repeatable marketing programs that generate qualified opportunities and support long-term business growth. “MSPs need a predictable way to generate demand, not just occasional wins from referrals or one-off campaigns,” Richardson said. The conversation explored how successful marketing strategies for MSPs combine clear messaging, targeted outreach, and consistent execution. By aligning marketing efforts with business goals and customer needs, partners can create a more sustainable pipeline of opportunities. Richardson also highlighted the importance of understanding the customer journey and tailoring messaging to different stages of the buying process. This approach helps MSPs engage prospects more effectively and convert interest into revenue. As discussions at Channel Partners continue to focus on growth and differentiation in a competitive market, Fox & Crow Group is helping MSPs develop the marketing discipline needed to scale their businesses and build stronger customer relationships. Learn more about Fox & Crow Group: https://www.foxcrowgroup.com/

Your biggest advantage in marketing right now isn't better ads. It's understanding what actually makes people buy — and it's probably not what your feed is telling you.Rage bait is everywhere. It gets views. It gets engagement. But it doesn't build trust — and it definitely doesn't drive real revenue in B2B.In this episode, we sit down with Jason Levin, co-founder of Memelord.com, to break down why meme marketing is quietly outperforming rage bait, how humor builds trust with high-value buyers, and the exact systems top marketers are using to scale meme-driven acquisition.The deeper insight: the best marketers aren't chasing attention — they're engineering relatability at scale.You'll learn how to operationalize memes across multiple accounts, why “remixing” is the real creative advantage, and how to turn humor into a repeatable growth engine.If you're thinking about distribution in 2026, this is a playbook most companies still aren't using.GuestJason Levin — co-founder of Memelord.com, an AI-powered meme marketing platform helping companies scale humor, distribution, and content velocity through AI-generated memes and multi-account social strategies.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamjasonlevinX: https://x.com/iamjasonlevinWhat You'll LearnWhy rage bait drives views… but fails to convert high-value customersThe difference between attention farming and buyer-driven attentionHow meme marketing builds trust faster than traditional contentWhy humor is a lever — not a strategy replacementHow to run multiple niche meme accounts for different ICPsWhy remixing content beats originality in modern distributionHow AI is enabling meme velocity at scaleWhy relationships still outperform automation in closing dealsTimestamps00:00 - Introduction to Meme Marketing00:21 - Guest Introduction: Jason Levin from Memelord.com00:41 - Memes vs Rage Bait Marketing01:13 - Tactical Meme Marketing Strategies02:24 - The Importance of Branding and Trust03:27 - Rage Bait vs Smart Bait Philosophy05:01 - Why Meme Marketing Drives Revenue06:43 - Building Trust in B2B Through Humor08:13 - Niche Meme Accounts and High-LTV Distribution10:19 - The Problem with Rage Bait Culture in Silicon Valley15:00 - Inside Memelord.com: Product, Demo & AI Tools30:43 - Scaling Distribution, Verified Orgs & MeasurementKey Topics & Insights1. Rage Bait Gets Attention — But Not RevenueThere's a growing belief that anger = growth.But here's the reality:Rage bait attracts the wrong audience.It pulls in:Low-intent usersPeople looking to argueLow purchasing-power audiencesThe problem: High-value buyers don't respond to manipulation — they recognize it.And when trust is broken, conversion dies.The takeaway: Views are not revenue.2. Meme Marketing = Relatability at ScaleMemes work because they create instant recognition.Instead of forcing attention, they generate:Emotional alignmentShared pain pointsFast trust-building through humorWhen people feel understood, they convert faster.3. Humor Is a Lever, Not a StrategyMemes don't replace strategy — they amplify it.Smart marketing stacks multiple levers:Educational contentLong-form trust buildingPaid acquisitionHumor as distribution acceleration4. Remixing Is the Real Growth EngineModern content velocity comes from remixing, not originality.Instead of creating from scratch:Take what's already trendingApply your ICP's pain pointAdd context and distributionThis is how meme engines scale.5. Multi-Account Distribution StrategyScaling meme marketing requires fragmentation:Multiple niche accountsEach targeting a specific personaEach speaking in a tailored voiceThis creates parallel distribution channels instead of relying on one brand feed.6. Verified Org Arbitrage on XA key growth hack discussed:$1,000/month for verified orgAbility to spin affiliate meme accountsNetworked distribution across accountsThis creates ubiquity and compounding reach.7. Relationships Still Close RevenueEven in a world of automation:ConversationsTrustLong-term relationshipsstill outperform pure distribution hacks.8. Measurement Shift: Branded SearchInstead of tracking vanity metrics:Focus on branded search growthUse Google Search ConsoleMeasure demand creation, not just clicksThis becomes the true signal of market pull.9. The Meme Stack Is Becoming a SystemMemelord.com represents a shift:Trend detectionAI generationMulti-account publishingRapid iteration loopsMemes are no longer content — they are infrastructure.SponsorToday's episode is brought to you by Graphed – an AI data analyst & BI platform.With Graphed you can:Connect data like GA4, Facebook Ads, HubSpot, Google Ads, Search Console, AmplitudeBuild interactive dashboards just by chatting (no Looker Studio/Tableau learning curve)Use it as your ETL + data warehouse + BI layer in one placeAsk:“Build me a stacked bar chart of new users vs. all users over time from GA4”…and Graphed just builds it for you.

For years, growth has been built around a simple idea. Drive traffic into a funnel, move people through stages, convert, repeat. But that model was built for a different time. A time when brands controlled information and buyers followed predictable paths. That is no longer the reality. Today, people explore, pause, research, ask communities, trust creators, and make decisions on their own terms. They don't move in straight lines. They move in networks. That shift is exactly why funnels and pipelines are no longer enough on their own. In this episode, we break down what changed, where traditional models still work, and where they fall short. More importantly, we introduce a new way to think about growth through Conscious Growth Pathways™. Instead of forcing people through linear systems, this approach focuses on building environments, ecosystems, and connections that people naturally move through. It's about awareness, trust, culture, and community driving momentum. We also unpack a six-phase growth cycle that helps identify where your growth is actually breaking and how to fix it, from investigation and initiation to innovation and introspection. If your marketing feels heavy, inconsistent, or stuck, this will reframe how you think about growth and what it actually takes to win today. Beyond The Episode Gems: Buy My Book, Strategize Up: The Blueprint To Scale Your Business: StrategizeUpBook.com Discover All Podcasts On The HubSpot Podcast Network Get Free HubSpot Marketing Tools To Help You Grow Your Business Grow Your Business Faster Using HubSpot's CRM Platform Support The Podcast & Connect With Troy:  Rate & Review iDigress: iDigress.fm/Reviews Follow Troy's Socials @FindTroy: LinkedIn, Instagram, Threads, TikTok Subscribe to Troy's YouTube Channel For Strategy Videos & See Masterclass Episodes Need Growth Strategy, A Keynote Speaker, Or Want To Sponsor The Podcast? Go To FindTroy.com

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!Welcome to another episode of Ops Cast by MarketingOps.com, powered by The MO Pros. Host Michael Hartmann is joined by co-hosts Mike Rizzo and Naomi Liu for a candid, no-guest conversation about one of the biggest questions in operations right now, which is what are we actually getting from AI?With massive funding announcements, rapid product releases, and constant noise around AI, it is easy to assume everyone is seeing results. But when you look closer, most teams are still struggling to measure real impact beyond surface-level efficiency gains.In this episode, we discussed the gap between hype and reality, exploring why ROI is so difficult to quantify, where AI is genuinely useful today, and the expectations that users have for what the technology can actually deliver.In this episode, you will learn:1. What OpenAI's massive funding signals for the future of AI and operations2. Why most teams cannot clearly measure ROI from AI initiatives3. The difference between time savings and real revenue impact4. Hidden costs of AI tools that make ROI harder to track5. Why AI adoption often fails without proper change management6. The belief gap, skill gap, and expectation gap are slowing teams down7. How fear and uncertainty are shaping AI adoption inside organizations8. Why the “AI gold rush” does not guarantee real business value9. What AI agents can and cannot do without human oversight10. Why strong operators become more valuable in an AI-driven worldThis episode challenges the assumption that AI automatically drives value and offers a more grounded perspective on how operators should think about adoption, measurement, and long-term impact.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

What does it take to build a brand in B2B that people actually talk about? Udi Ledergor has a word for it. Courage. He was employee #13 at Gong. The first, and for a long time, only marketer. He joined when nobody had heard of them, with 11 paying customers and zero brand presence. By the time he stepped back, Gong was doing $300M ARR, had five of the Fortune 10 as clients, and had become one of the most recognisable names in B2B. He did it by building what he calls courageous marketing — the belief that attention only goes to brands willing to do something genuinely different. Not different for the sake of it. Different because playing it safe, copying competitors, and following the same templates everyone else follows is the surest way to be completely invisible. We sat down with Udi live in London, and the conversation went places we didn't expect.

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!Conflict is part of every operation's role, but most people avoid it. However, the best operators learn how to use it to their advantage.In this episode of Ops Cast, Michael Hartmann sits down with Anna Lecat, CEO and Founder of Bridging Global and author of the upcoming book Loving Conflict, to explore why conflict is not something to eliminate, but something to understand and navigate.If you work in Marketing Ops, RevOps, or any cross-functional role, you are constantly operating between teams with different priorities, incentives, and perspectives. The question from this conversation is whether you avoid it or learn how to work through it effectively.Anna brings more than 25 years of experience leading multicultural teams and working across global organizations. She shares practical ways to reframe conflict, build trust, and turn difficult conversations into productive outcomes.Topics covered include• Why conflict naturally shows up in operations roles• The concept of “loving conflict” and what it actually means in practice• How different teams operate with different “languages” and priorities• Why people feel stuck in the middle and how to shift that mindset• How to prepare for difficult conversations with stakeholders or leadership• Common mistakes that escalate conflict instead of resolving it• How strong operators and leaders handle tension differentlyThis episode is not about frameworks or tools. It is one of the most overlooked skills in operations, the ability to solve conflict in a way that builds alignment rather than breaks it.Loving Conflict by Anna Lecat If this conversation feels relatable, Anna's book goes deeper into the ideas discussed in this episode. This offers a practical framework for turning tension into trust, alignment, and stronger relationships across teams. Here's the link to buy the Loving Conflict: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1966629974Be sure to like, share, and subscribe to Ops Cast, and join the conversation at MarketingOps.com.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!What happens when an Ops leader thinks like a marketer?In this episode of Ops Cast, Michael Hartmann sits down with Julie Hamada, Chief Operating Officer at Monarch Dentistry, to explore the connection between marketing, operations, and customer experience.Julie's path from marketing into operations shapes how she leads today. She views marketing as promise-making and operations as promise-keeping, and she focuses heavily on retention, customer psychology, and the full journey from first touch to long-term loyalty.This conversation challenges the way many organizations think about growth. It looks at why retention is often overlooked, how operational design directly impacts customer experience, and why some of the most valuable insights come from conversations rather than dashboards.Topics covered include:• The transition from marketing into operations and executive leadership• Why the gap between marketing promises and operational delivery matters• Retention vs acquisition and why most companies get the balance wrong• Designing operations around the full customer or patient journey• How understanding human behavior improves internal leadership• The limits of dashboards and why conversation-driven leadership matters• Practical ways to break down silos between marketing, ops, and frontline teamsIf you're leading or working in Marketing Ops, RevOps, or business operations, this episode offers a different lens on growth. One that starts with the customer experience and works backward into systems and execution.Be sure to like, share, and subscribe to Ops Cast, and join the conversation at MarketingOps.com.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

In this episode of Content, Briefly, Jimmy Daly, Eric Doty, and Chloe Thompson reunite to tackle one of marketing's oldest challenges: how do you tell the difference between a shiny object and a real opportunity?The conversation kicks off with a LinkedIn post from Ty Magnin about Reddit citations dropping 80% in ChatGPT almost overnight — after months of marketers scrambling to build Reddit strategies.From there, the trio walks through a greatest hits of shiny objects past: voice search, Clubhouse, Snapchat strategies, Mastodon, and the endless parade of Twitter replacements. They dig into how to respond when your CEO sends a Slack message about the latest trend, why monitoring competitors can be more useful than copying them, and the difference between chasing a tactic and investing in a legitimate channel.The conversation wraps with three grounding principles: trust the strategy you already have, prioritize owned channels over borrowed ones, and invest in foundational content that outlasts any single tool.This episode is sponsored by uSERP. Mention Superpath when you book your strategy call at userp.io, and they'll add five bonus high-authority link placements to your first month on top of your package.************************Useful Links:Follow Jimmy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmydaly/Follow Eric on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edoty/Follow Chloe on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloethompson3/Follow Ty on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylermagnin/Follow Krista on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristadoyle5/Ty's post on Reddit and AEO: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tylermagnin_reddit-isnt-as-important-for-aeo-as-everyone-activity-7440049395347357696-T-rB************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!Why do marketing teams keep adding approvals, processes, and controls… yet still struggle to move faster or perform better?In this episode of Ops Cast, Michael Hartmann sits down with Joe Bockerstette, Partner at Business Enterprise Mapping, to discuss what is really happening inside modern marketing organizations.Joe brings over 30 years of experience helping companies redesign how their business systems function. A former PwC partner and CPG leader, he focuses on mapping entire operational systems to reveal why teams produce the results they do and where friction actually lives.This conversation goes beyond surface-level process optimization. It explores how hidden system design drives delays, why adding more controls often makes problems worse, and how marketing teams can diagnose the root causes behind slow execution and inconsistent outcomes.Topics covered include:• What a “business system” actually means in a marketing context• Why organizations are structured to produce their current results• How approval layers and control mechanisms create bottlenecks• The difference between documenting processes and mapping systems• “Red Clouds” and how they expose operational friction and missed opportunities• Key differences between in-house teams and agency operating models• Practical ways smaller teams can start improving their systems without external helpIf your team feels stuck in cycles of rework, delays, or constant firefighting, this episode offers a clear framework to understand why and what to do about it.Be sure to like, share, and subscribe to Ops Cast, and join the conversation at MarketingOps.com.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

In this episode of Content, Briefly, Alex sits down with Brad Smith, co-founder of uSERP, to unpack why most content marketing reporting is a waste of time — and what to do instead.This episode is a companion to Brad's LinkedIn article, "Why Most Reporting Is a Waste of Time" — we'd recommend reading that first for the full framework before diving in.Brad makes the case that marketers have been stuck in a loop of tracking aggregate metrics that fluctuate constantly but rarely lead to better decisions. He introduces a cohort-based analysis approach that borrows from how paid marketers already think — grouping content by publish date and measuring against realistic time-to-results benchmarks rather than obsessing over yesterday's keyword rankings.The conversation also dives into the declining traffic reality most content teams are facing, why competitive benchmarking often does more harm than good, and Brad's skepticism around LLM optimization as a standalone tactic. Plus, Alex puts Brad on the spot with a live Superpath strategy exercise — walking through how Brad would set up goals, choose topics, and measure success for a content marketing community starting from scratch.This episode is sponsored by uSERP. Mention Superpath when you book your strategy call at userp.io, and they'll add five bonus high-authority link placements to your first month on top of your package.************************Useful Links:Follow Alex on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-hilleary/Follow Brad on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bsmarketer/ Read Brad's article: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-most-reporting-waste-time-how-fix-cohort-based-analysis-smith-ipbyc/ uSERP: https://userp.io************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.

Fifteen years ago, Jeffrey Fermin co-founded OfficeVibe, one of the world's first employee pulse survey platforms. Since then, the HR tech market has exploded with over 200 similar tools, yet global employee disengagement remains stubbornly high. In this very honest episode, Jeffrey joins Al and Leanne to explain why the industry he helped create hasn't solved the problem it promised to fix. We dive into the "subscription economy" traps of HR Tech, the rise of "job hugging" in 2025/26, and why your fancy engagement dashboard might actually be making things worse.

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!Social media is changing fast. Platforms are becoming search engines, video continues to dominate, and AI tools are rebuilding how people discover brands and information online.In this episode of Ops Cast, Michael Hartmann speaks with Stephanie Gardner, a freelance social media and marketing strategist who works across B2B, B2C, nonprofits, and small businesses. Stephanie focuses on helping organizations build purposeful social strategies that align with real business outcomes rather than vanity metrics.The conversation explores how social platforms like Instagram and LinkedIn are evolving into discovery engines, why brands need to think in terms of searchable intent instead of hashtags and trends, and how the lines between search, social, and AI-driven discovery are rapidly disappearing.Stephanie also explains why follower counts and engagement can be misleading indicators of success, shares real examples of how smaller but more targeted audiences can drive better results, and discusses why executive visibility and employee amplification are becoming essential trust signals in B2B environments.Topics covered include: • The shift from social media feeds to search-based discovery • How Instagram, LinkedIn, and YouTube are evolving into search engines • Why intent-based visibility matters more than hashtags or trends • The difference between vanity metrics and real business impact • How smaller, targeted audiences can outperform large follower counts • The growing role of executive visibility on LinkedIn • How Marketing Ops teams should think about social, search, and AI togetherIf you work in Marketing Ops, RevOps, or digital marketing strategy, this episode offers a practical look at how discovery behavior is changing and what organizations should start preparing for now.Be sure to like, share, and subscribe to Ops Cast, and join the conversation at MarketingOps.com.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

In this episode of Content, Briefly, Eric Doty and Chloe Thompson tackle a question every content marketer faces: where do great content ideas actually come from?Spoiler — it's not keyword tools or AI prompts. Eric and Chloe walk through the internal sources they rely on most, from lurking obsessively on company Slack channels to mining sales calls, customer success conversations, support tickets, and product usage data. They dig into why talking to customers (or at least listening to their calls) teaches you more than months of ICP research, and how tools like Fathom and Gong are making it easier to do meta-analysis across transcripts at scale.The conversation also covers external idea sources — private communities, industry publications, and strategic LinkedIn feed curation — before shifting to their personal ideation processes. Chloe shares how she balances keyword lists with a running idea bank, while Eric reveals a clever Slack automation hack that builds internal visibility for the content calendar and invites ideas from across the company. It's a practical, honest look at how to fill your content calendar with ideas that actually resonate.This episode is sponsored by uSERP. Mention Superpath when you book your strategy call at userp.io, and they'll add five bonus high-authority link placements to your first month on top of your package.************************Useful Links:Follow Eric on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edoty/ Follow Chloe on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloethompson3/************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!Many Marketing Ops professionals eventually hit a ceiling. The work is important, the systems are running, but the influence over the broader go-to-market strategy remains limited.In this episode of Ops Cast, Michael Hartmann speaks with Jackson Fisher about what it takes to move beyond execution and step into a more strategic role inside the business. Jackson recently completed ten years at the American Hospital Association, where he began in Marketing Operations and later moved into Product Development. As an early member of the MarketingOps.com community and part of the Founding 100, Jackson shares how his operations background helped him transition into a role focused on pipeline structure, revenue performance, and product strategy.The conversation explores how operators can translate their skills into business impact by connecting marketing activity to pipeline, pricing, and financial outcomes. Jackson also explains what it looks like to introduce pipeline discipline in organizations that lack a clear revenue structure and how Marketing Ops professionals can learn to communicate in the language of finance and revenue leadership.Topics covered include: • Recognizing when you have hit the Marketing Ops ceiling • Translating Marketing Ops skills into broader business impact • Building pipeline discipline in organizations without clear revenue structures • Connecting marketing activity to pricing, Salesforce data, and revenue outcomes • Creating strategic impact with a lean tech stack • Moving from order-taker to trusted GTM partner • Preparing for leadership roles in Revenue Operations and GTM strategyIf you are a Marketing Ops professional thinking about the next phase of your career, this episode offers practical insight into how operators can expand their influence beyond campaign execution.Be sure to subscribe, like, and share Ops Cast, and join the conversation at MarketingOps.com.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

In this episode of Content, Briefly, Alex shares the very first Superpath Quarterly Update, a new format where he pulls back the curtain on how the community is growing, what's shipped, what didn't work, and what's coming next and takes questions from the community.Alex recaps his first three months since acquiring SuperPath from Jimmy Daly, walking through the numbers, the launch of curated one-on-one matching, member-led Spaces, and LinkedIn challenges that are already landing members new opportunities.The episode also features an AMA with questions from Pro members, covering everything from why Alex chose a community product over software, how he's thinking about churn and early retention, his community philosophy around respecting members' time, and what's surprised him most about the Superpath community so far.This episode is sponsored by uSERP. Mention Superpath when you book your strategy call at userp.io, and they'll add five bonus high-authority link placements to your first month on top of your package.************************Useful Links:Follow Alex on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-hilleary/Read Alex's intro post: https://www.superpath.co/blog/its-great-to-meet-youStart your free 30-day trial: https://superpath.io************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!The traditional B2B marketing playbook is becoming irrelevant. At the same time, AI is fundamentally transforming how buyers research, evaluate, and purchase.In this episode of Ops Cast, Michael Hartmann is joined by Naomi Liu and Mike Rizzo for a wide-ranging conversation with Jon Miller. Jon co-founded Marketo, helped define modern Marketing Operations, later co-founded Engagio, and is now the Co-Founder and CEO of a stealth AI startup focused on the future of buying behavior and revenue systems.This conversation challenges long-held assumptions about campaigns, MQLs, attribution, and the systems Marketing Ops teams have relied on for over a decade. Jon explains why rules-based automation is not sufficient now, how AI changes what marketing platforms must do, and what it means to move from campaigns to AI-orchestrated experiences.The panel also explores buying groups, lifecycle orchestration across anonymous and known buyers, and how Marketing Ops can operationalize trust, brand, and customer experience in a world where AI filters much of what buyers see.The topics that we covered include: • Why the traditional B2B playbook is no longer working • How AI shifts marketing from campaigns to orchestration • What it really takes to operationalize buying groups • Why MQLs and last-touch attribution are losing relevance • How Marketing Ops can build infrastructure for modern buying behavior • The evolving role of Marketing Ops in 2026 and beyond • Where AI is genuinely useful today versus oversoldIf you work in Marketing Ops, RevOps, or revenue leadership, this episode will push you to rethink the systems you are building and how artificial intelligence can transform them.Be sure to like, share, and subscribe to Ops Cast, and join the conversation at MarketingOps.com.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals We're an official media partner of B2BMX 2026 — the B2B Marketing Exchange — happening March 9-11 at the Omni La Costa Resort in Carlsbad, CA. It's practitioner-focused with 50+ breakout sessions, keynotes, and hands-on workshops covering AI in B2B, GTM strategy, and advanced ABM. Real networking, real takeaways. And because we're a media partner, you get 20% off an All-Access Pass with code B2BMAOP at checkout. Head to b2bmarketing.exchange to grab your spot. MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

What happens when AI agents can delete your inbox… reboot your servers… or escalate to nuclear war in a simulation?We've officially crossed into a new phase of AI and it's not theoretical anymore. Agents are operating independently for longer periods, integrating into enterprise tech stacks, replacing knowledge work, and triggering very real economic and geopolitical consequences.If you're a business leader, this is no longer “interesting tech news.”It's strategy. Risk. Talent. Capital allocation. And survival.In this episode, we break down the explosive acceleration of AI agents — from Claude's new remote control and scheduled workflows to research showing escalating autonomous behavior — and what it means for your organization, workforce, and competitive edge.The bottom line?Productivity is skyrocketing. So is systemic risk. Leaders who experiment now will lead. Leaders who hesitate may not get the chance.In this session, you'll discover:Anthropic's new Claude Cowork plugin marketplace and deep tech stack integrationsReal-world productivity gains (90% code migration reduction, 95% documentation savings)Why “professional-grade AGI” may arrive within 12–18 monthsThe rise of the “builder” era — and what happens to software engineersNew red-team research exposing severe security failures in autonomous agentsThe shocking case of an AI agent deleting an entire email system to complete a taskAI nuclear escalation simulations and their implications for military AI deploymentThe Pentagon vs. Anthropic standoff over AI use in surveillance and weaponsAbout Leveraging AI The Ultimate AI Course for Business People: https://multiplai.ai/ai-course/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@Multiplai_AI/ Connect with Isar Meitis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/isarmeitis/ Join our Live Sessions, AI Hangouts and newsletter: https://services.multiplai.ai/events If you've enjoyed or benefited from some of the insights of this episode, leave us a five-star review on your favorite podcast platform, and let us know what you learned, found helpful, or liked most about this show!

In this episode of Content, Briefly, Alex sits down with Rachel Bicha, a freelance content strategist and founder of The Art of Content — a collective microblog bringing content marketers together to share thoughts on practice and theory.They dig into Rachel's provocative first post, "I think we lost the plot about blogging," and explore how blogs went from spaces for genuine connection and ideas to SEO-driven content machines. Rachel breaks down how the skyscraper era, the gamification of metrics, and now AI have eroded the implicit trust between writer and reader — and why the problem was never really about length.The conversation also covers why Rachel chose a blog over a newsletter, what it means to step outside the pressure to monetize everything, and whether the original spirit of blogging can make a comeback. It's a thoughtful look at what we lost, what we're craving, and how content marketers can bring meaning back to the work.Superpath members: Get your free AI Visibility Report from Gauge and unlock 50% off your first three months.************************Useful Links:Alex on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-hilleary/ Rachel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-bicha-44080/The Art of Content: https://theartofcontent.blog/Rachel's post: https://theartofcontent.blog/2026/01/16/i-think-we-lost-the-plot-about-blogging/************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.

In this episode of Content, Briefly, Eric Doty and Chloe Thompson dig into corporate America's latest hot job title: storyteller. Inspired by a viral Wall Street Journal piece, they unpack whether the surge in storytelling roles represents a genuine shift in how companies think about content — or just a cost-cutting move dressed up with a more romantic title.Chloe brings a fresh perspective as someone who recently navigated the job market and saw these postings firsthand. They discuss how storytelling roles blur the lines between content marketing, comms, and PR, why traditional journalists are struggling to land these jobs despite having the skills, and what Matilda Sheeran calls the "processes and politics" keeping the best stories locked away inside companies. The conversation also explores how content marketing careers may be forking into two paths — the editorial-minded storyteller and the AI-powered content engineer — and what that means for anyone building a career in the space right now.************************Useful Links:Follow Eric on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edoty/ Follow Chloe on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloethompson3/WSJ article: https://www.wsj.com/articles/companies-are-desperately-seeking-storytellers-7b79f54e?st=pbbhxJ&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink Matilda Sheeran's post on The Art of Content: https://theartofcontent.blog/2026/02/10/storytelling-is-crushing-the-content-leader/************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.

In this episode of Content, Briefly, Alex talks with Caelean Barnes, CEO of Gauge, about what actually drives results in AI search.They unpack why clear, direct first-party content is the biggest lever, how third-party platforms shape AI narratives, and why strategies must stay iterative as models constantly change.Caelean shares the core metrics that matter — visibility and citation rate — plus why self-reported attribution is essential in a zero-click world. They also explore how AI is compressing the funnel and shifting content marketers toward strategy, editing, and orchestration over manual production.Bottom line: SEO fundamentals still work — but content must be clearer, fresher, and built for AI.Superpath members: Get your free AI Visibility Report from Gauge and unlock 50% off your first three months.************************Useful Links:Follow Alex on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-hilleary/Follow Caelean on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caelean************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!In this episode of Ops Cast, we explore a side of operations leadership that rarely appears in roadmaps or system diagrams but determines whether teams thrive or burn out.Kimi Corrigan, Vice President of Marketing Operations at Huntress, joins Michael Hartmann on our latest Ops Cast episode. Kimi shares her perspective on servant leadership, psychological safety, and the emotional intelligence required to lead effectively inside fast-growing, complex organizations.The conversation goes beyond tools and processes to focus on the human side of operations. Kimi discusses how to lead with empathy without lowering standards, how to navigate difficult conversations with honesty and accountability, and how to create sustainable team rhythms in environments that often default to constant firefighting.They also examine how ops leaders can enter new organizations thoughtfully, read culture before pushing change, and decide where to invest their energy early. Kimi shares where AI can genuinely support leadership development, not as a replacement for judgment, but as a tool for reflection, communication, and clarity.What you will learn: • How to balance servant leadership with high performance expectations • Why psychological safety is essential in ops teams • How to lead through growth and organizational transition • Ways to build sustainable team trust outside of crisis moments • The non-technical skills that prepare operators for leadership roles • Where AI can strengthen communication and self-awarenessIf you are leading a Marketing Ops team or aspiring to step into leadership, this episode highlights the interpersonal skills that often matter more than technical mastery.Be sure to subscribe, rate, and review Ops Cast, and join the conversation at MarketingOps.com.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals We're an official media partner of B2BMX 2026 — the B2B Marketing Exchange — happening March 9-11 at the Omni La Costa Resort in Carlsbad, CA. It's practitioner-focused with 50+ breakout sessions, keynotes, and hands-on workshops covering AI in B2B, GTM strategy, and advanced ABM. Real networking, real takeaways. And because we're a media partner, you get 20% off an All-Access Pass with code B2BMAOP at checkout. Head to b2bmarketing.exchange to grab your spot. MarketingOps.com is curating the GTM Ops Track at Demand & Expand (May 19-20, San Francisco) - the premier B2B marketing event featuring 600+ practitioners sharing real solutions to real problems. Use code MOPS20 for 20% off tickets, or get 35-50% off as a MarketingOps.com member. Learn more at demandandexpand.com.Support the show

The market has changed. Outbound is noisy. Distribution is fragile. AI is accelerating everything. So how do you know who's actually ready to buy? How do you position in a market that feels unstable? How do you pivot without panicking? This episode dives into the new reality of business in the AI era: the death of lazy volume, the rise of ownership, and the permanent advantage of human connection. Spray-and-pray outreach is fading. Hiring signals are bloated. Metrics are inflated. The old indicators don't mean what they used to mean. And executives are walking away from companies they built because the ground beneath them has shifted. But here's the truth: AI doesn't remove the human game. It amplifies it. You'll hear why: Ownership now beats pure distribution Media companies must become community companies Positioning matters more than ever in a noisy environment Pivoting early beats reacting late AI without humanity fails Intentional outreach outperforms mass automation Signal clarity is the new competitive advantage This isn't about fear. It's about awareness. You can drown in the wave. You can float. Or you can learn to surf. The ones who win won't be the loudest. They'll be the most intentional. Across this episode, you will learn: Why “signal vs noise” is the defining business problem right now How AI is shifting power from distribution to ownership Why outbound at scale is losing effectiveness How to pivot strategically instead of reacting emotionally Why human connection remains the ultimate differentiator How to think chess, not checkers, in a volatile market The importance of intentional positioning in chaotic times Beyond The Episode Gems: Buy My Book, Strategize Up: The Blueprint To Scale Your Business: StrategizeUpBook.com Discover All Podcasts On The HubSpot Podcast Network Get Free HubSpot Marketing Tools To Help You Grow Your Business Grow Your Business Faster Using HubSpot's CRM Platform Support The Podcast & Connect With Troy:  Rate & Review iDigress: iDigress.fm/Reviews Follow Troy's Socials @FindTroy: LinkedIn, Instagram, Threads, TikTok Subscribe to Troy's YouTube Channel For Strategy Videos & See Masterclass Episodes Need Growth Strategy, A Keynote Speaker, Or Want To Sponsor The Podcast? Go To FindTroy.com

In this episode of Content, Briefly, Jimmy and Eric dig into synthetic feedback — using AI personas to pressure-test your content before publishing.They share how to build data-informed audience profiles, turn them into reusable Claude skills, and gather structured feedback from different perspectives (freelancer, in-house, exec, skeptic, skimmer).The goal: catch gaps earlier, strengthen arguments, and make human editing more strategic.They also reflect on the bigger challenge of adopting AI while doing the actual job — and how to use it as a sparring partner without losing your editorial judgment.Superpath members: Get your free AI Visibility Report from Gauge and unlock 50% off your first three months.************************Useful Links:Follow Jimmy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmydaly/Follow Eric on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edoty/************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.

In this episode of Content, Briefly, Alex and Eric dive into the “freelancer niche explosion” — and why 2026 may belong to micro‑specialists.They explore how leaner in‑house teams, post‑layoff hiring caution, and rapid AI adoption have reshaped the old model of content marketing. Instead of large teams and freelance blog writers, startups are increasingly relying on highly specific experts: LinkedIn ghostwriters, Reddit strategists, AI workflow builders, demo video editors, and more.The conversation unpacks why generalist marketers are stretched thinner than ever, how experimentation now drivesfreelance hiring, and why specialization can be a major advantage in a fast‑changing landscape.An optimistic, practical discussion for freelancers and in‑house marketers navigating the next era of content work.Superpath members: Get your free AI Visibility Report from Gauge and unlock 50% off your first three months.************************Useful Links:Follow Alex on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-hilleary/Follow Eric on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edoty/************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.

In this episode of Content, Briefly, Chloe, Eric, and Jimmy unpack the idea of “content theater” — creating content not just to be consumed, but to shape perception, legitimacy, and trust.They debate when content breadth can be more valuable than depth, especially for small teams selling to larger companies, and explore how content can signal scale, strategy, and credibility even if it's rarely read end‑to‑end. The conversation digs into surround‑sound marketing, MVP content, and the tension between quality, quantity, and checkbox marketing.The episode also examines modern content consumption realities — skimming, algorithms, repurposing, AI summaries, and LLM discovery — and asks a provocative question: should content be created with the assumption that no one will read it?A thoughtful, nuanced discussion for marketers navigating scale, perception, and the evolving role of content in 2026.This episode is sponsored by Ahrefs. Sign up for Ahrefs Webmaster Tools for free to improve your site's SEO performance and grow traffic from search.************************Useful Links:Follow Jimmy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmydaly/Follow Chloe on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloethompson3/Follow Eric on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edoty/************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.

What if you could turn AI into your top-performing sales rep?In today's episode, we unpack 3 powerful and fully-operational AI workflows that save time, make money, and bring serious clarity to your sales and marketing—without sounding like a robot.From automating newsletter creation with emotional storytelling to qualifying leads and prepping for sales calls using real-time data, this episode is your blueprint to working smarter—not just faster.The best part? These aren't theoretical. You'll get actual behind-the-scenes walkthroughs, templates, and real results from workflows already running in Sabahudin Murtic's agency.

Rima Mattok is the Director of Demand Generation at Taboola, where she leads the global acquisition and engagement strategy of Realize, a performance advertising platform focused on driving measurable results for brands. With a background in user engagement, Rima brings a deep understanding of audience behavior and conversion optimization—experience that shapes her approach to helping marketers scale efficiently across channels. In This Conversation We Discuss: [00:00] Intro[01:09] Getting to know the new product, Realize [02:33] Facing rising ad costs across platforms[04:22] Launching before peak season to save costs[07:10] Questioning the myth that more budget wins[09:31] Challenging the idea that AI replaces strategy[11:30] Callouts[11:40] Unlocking incremental growth on the open web[14:16] Testing new channels with wise budgets[15:17] Running quarterly moonshot experimentsResources:Subscribe to Honest Ecommerce on YoutubePerformance beyond search and social taboola.com/The performance built for advertisers realize.com/Follow Rima Sherman Mattok linkedin.com/in/rima-sherman-mattok-93282739/If you're enjoying the show, we'd love it if you left Honest Ecommerce a review on Apple Podcasts. It makes a huge impact on the success of the podcast, and we love reading every one of your reviews!