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In the Pit with Cody Schneider | Marketing | Growth | Startups
In this episode, we're joined by Jordan Mix, partner at Late Checkout, for an in-depth discussion on how startups can build a million-dollar brand in today's hyper-competitive landscape. Jordan introduces the concept of digital gravity—a framework for creating “mass” on the internet that draws customers into your brand's orbit. The conversation explores how companies can move beyond linear funnels and embrace orbit-based growth, where repeated brand interactions across multiple channels drive purchasing decisions.Together, we break down actionable strategies for generating traction, including the smart use of AI agents, automation, and vibe marketing. Jordan shares insights on balancing transactional marketing (like paid ads and cold outreach) with long-term brand-building investments, while emphasizing the role of creators, content flywheels, and the importance of being discoverable in AI-driven search results.Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction: Building a million-dollar brand in 2025 00:27 - Meet Jordan Mix and overview of Late Checkout 01:10 - The idea of digital gravity and mass in the AI era 03:00 - Funnels vs. orbits: How people really buy 06:15 - Automation, AI agents, and vibe marketing explained 10:45 - AI SEO, branded search, and surviving the law of shitty click-throughs 15:20 - Building discovery flywheels and creator-driven growth 20:30 - Strategies for leveraging YouTube, Reels, and creators at scale 25:00 - Managing creator risk and internal content strategies 28:00 - How to start creating digital gravity without overwhelmKey Points: • Digital Gravity Framework — Customers enter your orbit through repeated brand interactions, not linear funnels. The goal is to create mass (content, tools, assets) that attracts and retains attention. • AI Agents + Automation — Jordan highlights practical uses of AI agents, like automating outreach campaigns, creating dynamic ad workflows, or scraping competitive data to inform marketing. • Transactional vs. Brand Marketing — Early traction often comes from transactional tactics (ads, cold outreach), but long-term success requires investment in brand and content that lowers acquisition costs over time. • SEO in the Age of AI — With LLMs scraping Google's top pages, brands need to dominate bottom-of-funnel keywords and question-based queries to appear in AI search results. • Creator-Led Growth — Partnering with creators can trigger a viral cascade where hundreds of pieces of content are generated without direct cost, building digital gravity passively.Key Takeaway: Startups should focus first on finding where their customers spend time, test 2-3 channels, and double down on what works. From there, build repeatable processes and automate intelligently. The goal: maximize digital mass where it matters most, so your brand becomes the natural choice when buyers are ready.Notable Quotes: • “Funnels create linear growth. If you want exponential growth, you need digital gravity.” — Jordan Mix • “Where are your customers? Build as much mass as possible in that space.” — Jordan Mix • “Every ring you put out is like a mini-funnel — together they form the black hole of your brand.”Guest Socials: X: @jrdnmix LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-mix1/
This week's guest has gone from being a top summer intern at Pepsi generating over $80,000 over 9 weeks, to perfecting her SEO expertise prior to her current role where she is the Principal Content Strategist and Operations Program Manager for HubSpot Media. At HubSpot, she has grown from Marketing Manager in SEO to now leading a portfolio of high-impact initiatives that combine content strategy, operational excellence, and innovation in Demand Generation to drive subscribers, deliver leads, and increase signups all under budget and on time.Another fascinating aspect of her work is developing AI Agents to automate routine workflows and accelerate trend-based content production, where she pulls together all of her SEO experience and combines it with AI. From wanting to be a dentist in middle school to selling cell phones at Verizon, to creating jobs that didn't exist before she took them, Basha's career path shows the power of following unconventional wisdom.Her approach is to follow the rules first, master what you don't want to do, then create the role you actually want. She's living proof that announcing what you're good at (especially on LinkedIn) can transform your career trajectory. Please join me in welcoming Basha Coleman to the show!In this week's episode, we discussed:From Dentist Dreams to Marketing Reality - How exposure shapes career pathsThe Power of Following Rules Before Breaking Them - Unconventional career strategyThe Menu Pitch That Started Everything (Her Entrepreneurial origin story)Why You Should Announce What You're Good At (Personal branding for career growth)LinkedIn Content That Led to HubSpot (Social selling success story)SEO as the Bridge Between Top and Bottom Funnel (Strategic business impact)AI SEO Revolution - From rankings to personalized content compositionsThe Future of Search (Why traditional SEO tactics no longer work)AI Prompting Lessons from First Graders (Clear communication strategies)Logic and Problem-Solving - Essential skills for the AI ageMuch More!Please enjoy this week's episode with Basha Coleman.____________________________________________________________________________I am now in the early stages of writing my first book! In this book, I will be telling my story of getting into sales and the lessons I have learned so far, and intertwine stories, tips, and advice from the Top Sales Professionals In The World! As a first time author, I want to share these interviews with you all, and take you on this book writing journey with me! Like the show? Subscribe to the email: https://mailchi.mp/a71e58dacffb/welcome-to-the-20-podcast-communityI want your feedback!Reach out to 20percentpodcastquestions@gmail.com, or find me on LinkedIn.If you know anyone who would benefit from this show, share it along! If you know of anyone who would be great to interview, please drop me a line!Enjoy the show!
In this episode of Content, Briefly, Jimmy Daly talks with Eric Doty about the evolving landscape of content distribution and repurposing. They explore how AI and platform changes are blurring these lines and reshaping content strategies. Eric shares how his lean team uses podcasts as “big content” to fuel other channels and the importance of clear brand messaging. They also discuss the challenges of relying on social platforms versus owning your audience, and why strong content fundamentals and tools remain essential. Whether you're figuring out how to get the most from your content or balancing big and small pieces, this episode offers practical insights for today's marketers.Try Superpath Pro free for 30 days: https://www.superpath.co/************************Useful Links:Follow Jimmy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmydaly/Follow Eric on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edoty/Superpath's weekly podcast: https://podcast.superpath.co/Grow & Tell: https://www.dock.us/grow-and-tell************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!On today's episode, we talk with Ahmad Moore, founder of Pressure Marketing, to unpack his unconventional but deeply inspiring journey into marketing operations. From IT help desk roots to sales leadership and now running his own MOps-focused agency, Ahad shares how leaning into empathy, technical curiosity, and a hunger for alignment helped shape his path.✨ Tune in to hear:Why marketing ops is “IT with better branding” — and why that mattersThe underrated power of listening deeply and building an “empathy engine”How cross-functional experience in sales, strategy, and support creates a sharper MOps perspectiveLessons learned from building systems under pressure (literally and figuratively)How Ahad is using AI and HubSpot to scale smarter, not harderEpisode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show
Pour l'épisode de cette semaine, je reçois Guilhem Bertholet, CEO et cofondateur d'Invox, une agence spécialisée dans le marketing B2B.Guilhem était déjà passé sur le podcast dans l'épisode #101 pour parler de content marketing. Cette fois-ci, on revient ensemble sur un sujet plus large : la demand generation, un concept encore émergent en France mais central dans les stratégies marketing des SaaS B2B.Dans cet épisode, Guilhem explique les différences entre content marketing et demand generation, pourquoi il est crucial d'éduquer ses prospects bien en amont de la décision d'achat, et comment structurer une stratégie pérenne : quels contenus produire, sur quels canaux, avec quels outils, et sur quels horizons de temps.On a aussi parlé de son retour d'expérience avec la vidéo, de la place de l'IA dans les stratégies marketing, et de Demand Generation, la conférence qu'il organise à Lyon le 1er juillet, dédiée à la demand generation B2B.Vous pouvez suivre Guilhem sur LinkedIn et découvrir la conférence sur demandgeneration.fr.Bonne écoute !Mentionnés pendant l'épisode :InvoxDemand GenerationSubmagicÉpisode #101 de SaaS Connection avec GuilhemPour soutenir SaaS Connection en 1 minute⏱ (et 2 secondes) :Abonnez-vous à SaaS Connection sur votre plateforme préférée pour ne rater aucun épisode
What happens when a product marketer leaves the in-house grind to start her own consultancy? According to Alex Virden, it changed how she saw product marketing entirely.In this episode, Virdical founder shares why PMMs aren't traditional marketers, how consulting rewires your thinking, and what startup leaders really need when they ask for help. From messy handoffs to misaligned messaging, Alex explains the recurring pain points that surface in the go-to-market function and how external voices can reset the entire narrative.She also share knowledge on:The power dynamics that make consultants more effective than internal PMMsWhy hourly billing models can backfire (and what to do instead)How to spot when your org needs a third-party voice to fix GTM strategyTactics for commanding a room with CEOs (even if you're the outsider)How to avoid getting pulled into the basement making decks and one-pagersPractical advice for PMMs transitioning into consulting or freelance workIf you've tried to run a strategic PMM project while dodging CEO opinions and internal politics, this episode is a must-listen. Whether you're in-house and underwater or eyeing the consultant leap, Alex Virden brings receipts, real talk, and a clear lens on what modern product marketing really looks like when done right
In the Pit with Cody Schneider | Marketing | Growth | Startups
In this episode, I chat with Jonathan, a rapidly rising expert on Twitter known for building and scaling AI-driven marketing automations using tools like n8n and custom API integrations. We explore the practical realities of "vibe marketing" automation beyond hype, revealing how real-world workflows are being constructed today and why true expertise in marketing is essential for effective automation. Listeners will gain insights into automating audience research, creative production, and ad performance analysis at scale, as well as actionable tips for getting started and leveraging AI tools to 10x their output.Timestamps(00:00) – Introduction to Jonathan and Marketing Automation The host introduces Jonathan and sets the stage for a discussion on modern marketing automation tools and why they're currently so powerful.(02:45) – Jonathan's Background and Automation Journey Jonathan shares how he got into marketing automation, his paid ads background, and the evolution from manual work to automation.(07:30) – Key Tools and Stack for Automation The host and Jonathan discuss their tech stacks, highlighting n8n, railway.com, and custom front-end interfaces to streamline automation.(12:15) – Top Marketing Automation Workflows Jonathan outlines his most effective workflows: audience research, creative generation, and scaling marketing insights.(18:00) – Audience Research Automation: Reddit Scraping and Analysis A deep dive into using n8n to scrape Reddit, filter and analyze discussions, and extract actionable marketing insights and customer language.(25:40) – Twitter Insights Automation How Jonathan automates scraping Twitter for popular posts, identifying top-performing content and structuring it for ongoing content creation.(31:10) – Creative Production Automation Jonathan explains workflows for bulk generating ad variations using OpenAI's Image Gen API, including reference image analysis and prompt engineering.(38:20) – Custom Front-End Interfaces for Workflows The pair discuss integrating user-friendly front-end UIs (using Lovable or Bolt) with n8n backend automations for client and team use.(44:50) – Automating Ad Performance Analysis Jonathan describes a flow for pulling and analyzing Facebook Ads data, using sub-agents for performance analysis, deep research, and new ad creation.(51:10) – Video Ad Automation and Future Trends A look at how video ad automation is evolving and the current limitations and opportunities, including upcoming tools like Google Veo 3.(56:40) – Speeding Up Workflow Creation with Perplexity and Claude The host and Jonathan discuss using AI (Perplexity, Claude 4) to generate n8n workflow JSON, streamlining the automation development process.Key PointsExpertise in Marketing is Essential for Automation: To automate marketing workflows effectively, you need a deep understanding of marketing processes themselves. Only then can you define, script, and automate successful campaigns[1].Automating Audience Research Drives Results: Bulk scraping and analyzing platforms like Reddit and Twitter allow marketers to extract pain points, trigger events, and customer language at scale, informing ad copy and creative direction.Creative Volume is Game-Changing: Automation tools like OpenAI's Image Gen API enable the generation of hundreds of ad variations, feeding algorithms for higher performance and lower costs.Custom Front-Ends Improve Workflow Accessibility: Building user-friendly interfaces (using tools like Lovable or Bolt) for complex n8n automations makes them accessible to non-technical team members and clients.AI Accelerates Workflow Development: Using AI tools like Perplexity and Claude to generate n8n workflow JSON reduces the time and technical skill required to build sophisticated automations.Human-in-the-Loop Remains Critical: While automation handles the heavy lifting, human oversight is still needed for nuanced analysis, curation, and final ad selection.Notable QuotesJonathan: “You have to be an expert at that thing to be able to go and actually build out these automations. But when you do that, you can automate 80% of the work that you previously were doing.”Jonathan: “I literally just tell Claude what I want to build, and then it maps it out for me. And then you kind of have a canvas that is like 60, 70, 80% there depending on the complexity.”Cody: “Your customers are your best advertisers, so taking their exact wording and phrases is for sure going to be an effective marketing strategy a lot of the time.”Actionable Takeaways for Founders, Marketers, and PodcastersStart with a Core Marketing Process: Identify a repeatable marketing workflow you fully understand before attempting to automate it.Invest in Audience Research Automation: Use tools to scrape and analyze discussions on Reddit, Twitter, and other platforms to extract customer pain points and language for your messaging[2].Bulk Generate and Test Creatives: Leverage AI to produce hundreds of ad variations, enabling rapid testing and optimization of creative assets.Automate Performance Analysis: Implement workflows to automatically pull and analyze campaign performance data, allowing you to focus on strategy and execution[8].Simplify Tool Accessibility: Build custom UIs for your automation tools to make them accessible for your entire team, not just engineers.Accelerate Workflow Development: Use AI-powered tools like Perplexity and Claude to generate automation scripts and reduce development time.Brought to you byTalentFiber – Hire top offshore engineers with US experience at half the cost of US hires. - talentfiber.comWhere to the find Guest: https://x.com/vibemarketer_ https://linktr.ee/vibemarketerResources Mentionedhttps://www.youtube.com/@nateherkhttps://www.youtube.com/@Mark_Kashefhttps://www.youtube.com/@AI-GPTWorkshop/videosRapidAPI – Access a wide range of third-party APIs for quick integrations. - rapidapi.comApify – Scrape websites and extract data at scale. - apify.comTwitterAPI.io – Free and affordable Twitter data scraping tool. - twitterapi.io
What drives B2B marketing success—and why do so many companies get it wrong? In this episode of Predictable B2B Success, we sit down with Andy Culligan, a straight-talking marketing leader, fractional CMO, and former CRO with a wealth of experience steering SaaS brands through turbulent growth. Andy gets candid about why 79% of marketing leads go nowhere and how the disconnect between sales and marketing is silently draining your revenue potential. Listen as Andy unpacks the real secrets behind turning your marketing into a revenue machine (hint: there's no magic bullet, just honest, consistent work) and why fancy attribution models might not be as valuable as you think. Discover the “human interface” role of SDR teams, the power of true sales-marketing alignment, and why some of the most critical tactics—like analyst relations and active thought leadership from company executives—fly under the radar until it's almost too late. If you've ever grappled with stagnant pipeline, siloed teams, or wondered when it's time for a fractional CMO, Andy's battle-tested frameworks and blunt advice will give you a fresh perspective on how to unlock your business's next growth phase. Don't miss this episode, brimming with actionable insights and surprising truths. Some areas we explore in this episode include: Marketing as a Revenue Driver – How effective marketing directly impacts business growth and revenue, particularly in SaaS and B2B.Sales and Marketing Alignment – The necessity of tight collaboration between marketing, sales, and SDR teams.Evolving Marketing Mindset – Andy's transition from traditional marketing to a revenue-focused approach in tech.Demand Generation & Brand Consistency – The importance of consistent, holistic demand generation and brand efforts.Marketing Attribution Challenges – Difficulties in measuring marketing's impact on revenue and why practical metrics matter.Fractional vs. Full-Time Leadership – When to hire a fractional CMO, common hiring mistakes, and scaling leadership.Scaling Teams Through Growth Stages – When and how to grow marketing and SDR teams as companies scale.Account-Based Marketing Strategies – Concrete ABM tactics that engage high-value accounts with tailored plays.Short-Term vs. Long-Term Marketing Needs – Balancing immediate revenue goals with brand-building activities.Overlooked Growth Levers – The importance of analyst relations and getting executives involved in brand efforts.And much, much more...
In this episode of Content, Briefly, Tom Rudnai from Demand-Genius joins Jimmy Daly to discuss the evolving landscape of B2B content strategy amid the rise of AI and shifting platform algorithms. They explore how marketers can move beyond keyword optimization to create high-quality, question-driven content that aligns with buyer journeys and integrates seamlessly across sales and marketing teams. Tom shares insights on gating content “with intent,” building owned distribution channels, and measuring content impact beyond vanity metrics to influence pipeline and revenue. The conversation also highlights how AI tools are transforming content audits, personalization, and sales enablement workflows. Whether you're focused on content strategy, attribution, or leveraging AI in marketing, this episode offers practical guidance and forward-thinking perspectives to help you future-proof your approach.Your content drives revenue. Demand-Genius reveals how, allowing you to focus on creating outstanding content while ensuring your team receives full credit for its impact. Mention Superpath to receive a 20% discount – https://www.demand-genius.com/************************Useful Links:Follow Jimmy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmydaly/Follow Tom Rudnai on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-rudnai-0539b6151/************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!On today's episode, Mike Rizzo talks with Martin Pietrzak, founder and president of Pinch Marketing, to unpack what Google and others have called “the messy middle” of today's buyer's journey.Gone are the days of the simple, linear sales funnel. Instead, buyers loop through endless cycles of exploration, evaluation, and self-education before they ever talk to sales — if they do at all. Martin shares how marketing ops pros can embrace this new reality by becoming strategic partners who help build flexible data-driven systems that enable real-time insights, better attribution, and scalable growth.You'll hear:Why the messy middle exists — and how buyers' behavior has changed forever.How technology, data, and AI are reshaping go-to-market architecture.The critical role marketing ops plays as the “marketing scientist” in modern organizations.Practical steps to capture buyer signals and turn them into actionable insights.Why marketing ops leaders must think like product managers to architect the GTM stack.Whether you're building your ops career or leading teams through complex martech stacks, this episode is packed with insights you can apply right away.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show
In this episode of Content, Briefly, Jimmy and Eric discuss the future of content marketing as AI and changing SEO reshape the landscape. They highlight the importance of owning your audience through email and authentic storytelling over formulaic content. Using a country music analogy, they emphasize creativity and experimentation as keys to standing out. Whether you're a marketer or freelancer, this episode offers practical insights on navigating content creation and distribution today. Plus, learn about upcoming Superpath events and ways to get involved.Thanks to Demand-Genius for supporting Superpath. Join us for a webinar with Demand-Genius on June 5. We'll be talking about content attribution and revenue impact.RSVP here → https://lu.ma/5o3ccibi************************Useful Links:Follow Jimmy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmydaly/Follow Eric on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edoty/Is the company blog dead? https://newsletter.mkt1.co/p/episode8-company-blog-deadTry Superpath Pro free for 30 days: https://pro.superpath.co/************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!In today's episode, we talk with Irwin Hipsman, founder of Repititos, to explore the often-overlooked world of customer marketing and the critical role of customer contact data. Irwin shares findings from his recent research report on the state of customer contact databases, revealing why so many organizations struggle with poor data quality and how it impacts customer communications, renewals, and crisis response.Together, they dive into:The definition of customer contact databases and why focusing on individuals—not accounts—is crucial.Key findings from Irwin's research, including an industry-average database health score of just 47%.The importance of cross-functional teams in maintaining healthy customer data.Actionable steps ops professionals can take to assess, clean, and maintain customer data health.Why better customer data translates directly into stronger customer relationships, higher retention, and better crisis management.Whether you're in marketing ops, customer marketing, or revenue operations, this conversation offers practical insights that can help transform your organization's approach to customer data management.Access the customer health score assessment here.Access Irwin's report here.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show
Episode SummaryThis episode explores the nuances of scaling demand generation strategies from startups to established organizations. Lily Youn highlights the importance of building a strong foundation through account-based strategies, data hygiene, and team alignment. She discusses the differences between startup scrappiness and scale-up structure, the role of AI in demand generation, and how to identify quick wins for immediate impact. Lily also shares actionable insights for optimizing conversions, improving CRM processes, and fostering collaboration across teams..Key TakeawaysFoundation is EssentialSuccess in demand generation starts with targeting the right accounts, as they form the base of effective strategies.Alignment Creates MomentumRegular, agenda-driven meetings with key stakeholders help ensure seamless collaboration between sales and marketing.AI as an Efficiency DriverAI tools can streamline personalization, simplify content operations, and elevate demand gen workflows.Data Hygiene is Non-NegotiableClean, well-structured CRM data is critical for reliable reporting and scalability across company stages.Startup vs. Scale-Up DynamicsStartups require focused ICP development, while scale-ups demand scalable processes and systems.Quotes"Targeting the wrong prospects is the single biggest challenge in B2B sales today."Best Moments (01:37) – Lily shares her career journey from BDR to demand generation leader, reflecting on early lessons in scrappiness and resourcefulness.(04:50) – The critical role of account-based strategies and why a strong foundation starts with the right ICP.(07:20) – Navigating startup-to-scale-up transitions and the importance of scalable processes and clean CRM data.(12:07) – Leveraging tech and AI to enhance efficiency in demand generation and content operations.(14:00) – Lily's focus on alignment, OKRs, and communication as keys to success in scaling demand gen teams.Tech RecommendationsWorkBoard – For setting and tracking OKRs to maintain team alignment and prioritize business goalsZoomInfo Co-Pilot – An AI-powered tool for streamlining demand gen efforts and improving account targeting.Asana – A project management solution to enhance productivity and maintain focus on KPIs.Resource RecommendationsBooks:Reset: How to Change What's Not Working by Dan Heath – A guide for improving leadership practices and daily operations.Shout-OutsShannon Hawari - Head of Growth @ elvexGraham Collins - Head of Partnerships at QuotaPathAbout the GuestLily Youn Jaroszewski is the VP of Demand Generation and Revenue Marketing at Aprimo, the leading digital asset management technology for marketing and customer experience departments.Her experience in B2B and B2C tech companies includes building demand generation teams and quota capacity models to support AEs from Seed-Funded to Public companies.Website: aprimo.comConnect with Lily.
In this episode of Content, Briefly, Jimmy sits down with Deedi Brown, Head of Content and Education at Bubble, to explore the dynamic intersection of no-code development, AI, and content strategy. They dive into how Bubble is evolving as a leading no-code platform, embracing AI-powered “vibe coding” to empower non-technical founders and startups to build fully functional apps without writing code. Deedi shares insights on the challenges of marketing a platform with limitless use cases, the importance of community activation, and how AI is reshaping content workflows and brief creation at Bubble. Tune in for a fascinating conversation about the future of no-code, the shifting role of content teams in tech companies, and Deedi's unique side hustle as a longtime book reviewer on Instagram. Whether you're curious about no-code tools, AI in content, or career growth in a fast-changing industry, this episode offers practical advice and fresh perspectives.************************Useful Links:Deedi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianeboland/Deedi on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deedireads/Deedi Reads: https://deedireads.com/Website: https://bubble.io/************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!On todays episode, we talk with Rick Collins, Vice President of Demand Generation at ConnectWise, to explore his unconventional yet inspiring journey from IT to marketing operations and ultimately into executive marketing leadership. Rick shares how he transitioned from managing systems to driving demand, the pivotal career moments that shaped his path, and the leadership lessons he's learned along the way. Whether you're early in your marketing ops career or looking to break into leadership, this conversation is packed with valuable takeaways on navigating transitions, building trust, and expanding your influence.Tune in to hear:Rick's unique career path from IT and QA into marketing operations and eventually to a VP role in demand generation.How to leverage technical and relational skills to create career mobility within marketing.The importance of curiosity, relationship-building, and challenging assumptions—internally and externally—for leadership growth.Insights into managing through organizational change, including private equity acquisitions and team restructuring.Tips on transitioning from managing ICs to managing other managers, including the importance of communication, presentation skills, and executive alignment.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show
This episode features an interview with Armen Najarian, CMO at Sift, an AI-powered fraud platform delivering identity trust for leading global businesses.Armen has 10 years of experience as a CMO across a variety of fraud prevention, digital identity, and cybersecurity organizations. He discusses how word of mouth and a strong brand has allowed them to become a leader in their space and also gives insight into Sift's top source for demand generation.Key Takeaways:It is riskier not to take risks. Marketers need to be willing to try something unconventional. If it fails, the world goes on. Giving your customers access to your data, if it answers important questions for them, can be a key driver of demand. Understand what your customers are curious about and what questions they are asking. If you can find a way to provide answers, the ROI will be significant. Quote: ”Those that aren't taking risks are the ones taking risks, is the way I would look at this. Like we have to take risks -you know, it's gotten so noisy and some of the tried and true tactics like organic search, right, which is completely flipped on its head right now. Every CMO has a responsibility, anyone in marketing really, has a responsibility to really rethink the logic for what they're doing and take some risks.”Episode Timestamps: *(02:29) The Trust Tree: 10 years of CMO experience*(09:19) The Playbook: Answering your customers biggest questions*(38:24) The Dust Up: To create a category or not *(42:32) Quick Hits: Armen's quick hitsSponsor:Pipeline Visionaries is brought to you by Qualified.com. Qualified helps you turn your website into a pipeline generation machine with PipelineAI. Engage and convert your most valuable website visitors with live chat, chatbots, meeting scheduling, intent data, and Piper, your AI SDR. Visit Qualified.com to learn more.Links:Connect with Ian on LinkedInConnect with Armen on LinkedInLearn more about SiftLearn more about FibrLearn more about Caspian Studios
In the Pit with Cody Schneider | Marketing | Growth | Startups
In this episode, I chat with James Cadwallader, co-founder of Profound, about the rise of AI search engines and their impact on traditional search methods. We discuss how tools like ChatGPT and Perplexity are changing user behavior and referral traffic patterns. James shares insights on which companies benefit most from this trend and offers strategies for enhancing brand visibility in AI search results. We explore the importance of tracking bot traffic, creating targeted content, and optimizing metadata to align with AI models' preferences, highlighting the need for brands to adapt to this new digital landscape.
In this episode of Content, Briefly, Jimmy and Eric chat about what it really means to be “strategic” in content marketing and career growth. They unpack how strategy goes beyond tactics to impact business outcomes, and why shifting from a craft-focused mindset to a results-driven approach is key. Jimmy and Eric share practical advice on gaining strategic experience, especially in smaller teams, and discuss emerging roles like content engineers using AI to scale content. Tune in for insights on balancing creativity with data, delegating effectively, and navigating career growth in today's fast-evolving content landscape.Thanks to our friends at dofollow.com for supporting "Content, Briefly." Learn more at dofollow.com.Register for our upcoming webinar on content attribution and revenue impact here: https://lu.ma/5o3ccibiCheck out Superpath Pro and try it free for 30 days: https://www.superpath.co/************************Useful Links:Eric on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edoty/Superpath Slack CommunityIf Management is the Only Way Up, We're All F'dThe Rise of the 10x Content EngineerBuy Back Your Time************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!The rise of AI tools has dramatically changed the landscape of email marketing and sales outreach, creating both exciting opportunities and significant risks. As Mustafa Saeed, co-founder and CEO of Luella, explains in this eye-opening conversation, many revenue teams are now "scared shitless" about how their reps might abuse these powerful new technologies.When AI-powered automation tools are implemented without proper guardrails, organizations face serious threats to their brand reputation, domain health, and even compliance standing. The problem isn't AI itself, but rather "AI coupled with reckless automation" that floods inboxes with content that lacks genuine value. As email service providers like Google and Microsoft respond with increasingly aggressive spam filters, even legitimate messages from trusted senders are getting caught in the crossfire.The solution isn't abandoning AI but reimagining how we use it. While many AI tools promise to remove humans from the loop, Saeed argues for bringing them back in through thoughtful collaboration between humans and AI agents. This approach combines the best of both worlds—AI's ability to analyze vast datasets and humans' talent for building authentic relationships.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show
Still Relying on Reactive Sales? To grow today, distributors need a proactive strategy that focuses on account penetration, demand generation, and effective targeted outreach. However, despite being rated 7.35 on a 10-point scale in importance, only 22% of distributors regularly engage in outbound sales and see results. We partnered with Channel Marketing Group and surveyed distributors nationwide about their demand-generation initiatives, discovering this significant gap between execution and strategy. Are you part of the 78% still relying on reactive strategies and leaving opportunities for revenue behind? Or do you want to take the lead with a smarter, more proactive approach? Get our report of the latest industry insights and see what you need to build a competitive advantage and turn strategy into revenue today.
In this episode of Content, Briefly, Jimmy talks with Tom Rudnai, founder and CEO of Demand Genius, about bridging the gap between content and revenue. Tom, a former sales rep turned entrepreneur, explains how Demand Genius links website engagement with CRM data to help marketers attribute content ROI and make smarter decisions across the buyer's journey. They discuss the evolving role of content in B2B sales, the challenges of content attribution, and why content teams must lead internal conversations to prove their impact on pipeline and revenue. Tune in for practical insights on optimizing content experience, sales-marketing alignment, and balancing data with creativity in today's fast-changing landscape.Thanks to our friends at dofollow.com for supporting "Content, Briefly." Learn more at dofollow.com.Register for our upcoming webinar on content attribution and revenue impact here: https://lu.ma/5o3ccibi************************Useful Links:Tom on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edoty/Website: https://www.demand-genius.com/Does every marketing channel *actually* suck right now?Every marketing channel sucks right now************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!Ever wondered why your marketing data isn't delivering the insights you need? The answer lies in what Nicole Alvarez calls "the ugly work" – those essential but unglamorous tasks that create the foundation for beautiful marketing results.In today's episode, Nicole, a Solutions Architect at ClearPivot with a fascinating background in psychology and cognitive science, explains why field audits, permission sets, and process documentation deserve more attention. Drawing from her experience across multiple industries, she reveals how these behind-the-scenes elements enable the exciting, visible outcomes that marketing teams celebrate.We explore a powerful technique for demonstrating the value of data cleanup – building reports with bad data to show stakeholders why investment in data quality matters. When executives see inaccurate reports that don't reflect business reality, they better understand why dedicating resources to "boring" operational work is essential. Whether you're struggling to maintain clean data, communicate the value of operations work to executives, or simply looking to improve your marketing systems, this episode offers practical wisdom from seasoned professionals. Subscribe to OpsCast for more insights on the critical work that happens behind the scenes in successful marketing operations.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show
Guest: Ken Lempit, President & Chief Business Builder at Austin Lawrence GroupAre your SaaS ads actually doing their job, or just burning budget?In this week's episode of SaaS Backwards, Ken Lempit and Jason Myers of Austin Lawrence Group go deep on what GTM leaders get wrong about advertising in 2025:Why most SaaS ads look and sound the same (and fall flat)Where messaging fails long before the clickHow to align sales and marketing in a high-consideration buying cycleThe overlooked power of direct mail and live eventsWhen to pull back on spend—and how to know it's timeIf you're spending more but converting less—or just tired of “safe” campaigns with no spark—this conversation will challenge your assumptions and give you a new playbook.---Not Getting Enough Demos? Your messaging could be turning buyers away before you even get a chance to pitch.
This episode features an interview with Jen Rapp, CMO at Superside, an AI-powered creative service, trusted by 500+ top brands. Jen has over 20 years of experience developing and executing marketing strategies for high-growth companies, with a particular focus on working alongside entrepreneurial leaders to scale.She discusses selling the vision and how doing good impacts marketing, sharing her lessons from her time at Patagonia and DoorDash. She also discusses winning on meta through quality creative and driving qualified leads through virtual summits. Key Takeaways:Don't sleep on meta ads. If your ICP is on Instagram, those ads can be some of the cleanest and most effective ads to drive pipeline, especially if you have quality creative. Virtual Summits, or essentially a stack of webinars, are a great way to get emails and drive pipeline if you are truly offering great content. Sell the vision, not the product. A focus on features, instead of stories, is rarely the way to go. Quote:“ I would not have said this a year ago, when I first joined the company - number one is our meta, paid meta spend. I came to this company and I saw how much we were spending on Meta, and I was like, whoa, what the hell are these people doing? They're making mistakes left and right. Nope. We drive a majority, or a lot, I shouldn't say a majority, a lot of our qualified pipeline through our Meta spend. Our Meta spend also acts as our top of funnel awareness driver. When we turn off meta, we basically turn off the ability of our SDRs and our BDRs to convert people to SQLs. It is invaluable. So number one, my marketing team is like rallied around creating incredible creative for Meta.”Episode Timestamps: *(03:51) The Trust Tree: Making sure customers have confidence in you*(12:12) The Playbook: The power of Meta ads*(33:10) The Dust Up: Standing up to brilliant founders*(41:01) Quick Hits: Jen's Quick HitsSponsor:Pipeline Visionaries is brought to you by Qualified.com. Qualified helps you turn your website into a pipeline generation machine with PipelineAI. Engage and convert your most valuable website visitors with live chat, chatbots, meeting scheduling, intent data, and Piper, your AI SDR. Visit Qualified.com to learn more.Links:Connect with Ian on LinkedInConnect with Jen on LinkedInLearn more about SupersideLearn more about Caspian Studios
In this episode of Content, Briefly, Jimmy and Eric explore how the content marketing skillset is evolving in the age of AI. They discuss the shift from mastering writing alone to becoming multidisciplinary marketers who balance craft, business thinking, and new tools. Eric shares his experience as a solo marketer navigating AI's opportunities and challenges, from speeding up workflows to the risk of shortcutting skill development. Tune in for practical insights on content ops, customer research, and what it means to be a modern content marketer in 2025.This episode is supported by our friends at Demand-Genius. Your content impacts revenue. Demand-Genius shows you how, so you can focus on creating great content, while Demand-Genius makes sure your team gets credit for the impact it has. You can learn more here.************************Useful Links:Eric on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edoty/Jimmy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmydaly/Vibe Coding Workshop: https://www.superpath.co/blog/vibe-coding-for-content-marketers************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.
It's a bonus episode this week, taken from Lunch with Haley. Can you create demand for temporary staffing? Today, around 2% of non-farm employment are temporary jobs. With 25,000 staffing companies competing for that business, winning clients has become exceptionally hard. But what if you could create demand for staffing? What if you could help employers to fill a larger percentage of job openings with contingent workers? Some studies have projected that as much as 10% of non-farm jobs could be temporary jobs. That's 5x more staffing. Think about the impact that would have for your business! In this Lunch with Haley webinar, we're bringing together some of the top sales minds in the industry to talk about demand generation. We're going to look at the ways staffing can be used strategically to help companies to control labor costs, improve productivity, manage risk, and capitalize on new business opportunities. And we'll discuss how staffing sales professionals can use topics like these to sell more strategically and differentiate their sales process and messaging from their competitors. About the Speakers David Searns, Co-CEO, Haley Marketing When it comes to marketing a staffing firm, few people know the industry like David. He literally grew up in the business. He has been helping staffing companies create innovative marketing strategies and award-winning websites for more than 25 years. Tom Erb, President, Tallann Resources With a career spanning nearly 20 years, Tom Erb has established himself as one of the staffing and recruiting industry's top subject matter experts. As an executive for two of the largest staffing and recruiting companies in the world, Tom worked with some of the most recognizable and well-respected companies in the United States to help optimize their workforce strategy. As a consultant, trainer, and speaker to the staffing and recruiting industry, Tom has helped hundreds of firms create and execute sales and recruiting strategies to grow their business. In 2010 Tom formed Tallann Resources, a consulting firm specializing in the Staffing and Recruiting Industry. Tom has helped staffing and recruiting companies of all sizes and verticals transform their sales structure, create and implement their strategic plans, and optimize their recruiting process. Mark Winter, CEO, WinSource Group Mark is an expert at driving sales performance, keeping focus on customers, and keeping things simple. For 20 years, Mark has held every sales role out there- from Branch Manager to Vice President of Sales and Enablement for a $2.5B publicly traded staffing company. During that time, he has spent countless hours figuring out what works and of course, what doesn't. This enables Mark to sniff out things that are blocking performance, remove the barrier, and get people to act. He is a Six Sigma Black Belt and holds master certifications from some of the top sales training organizations in the world. Whether its strategic planning, sales process development, sales training, customer acquisition & engagement, sales team performance, or system and tool adoption- Mark can help get your team on track. Mark is the CEO of WinSource Group, a consulting company that specializes in the staffing industry. By providing training, coaching, and solid process WinSource help staffing companies get the best possible performance from their sales team. Dan Mori, Founder of Staffing Mastery & President of Employment Solutions Dan Mori is a seasoned staffing industry executive, sales strategist, and leadership coach with over two decades of experience driving business transformation in the employment space. As President of Employment Solutions, he helped engineer one of the most successful regional staffing expansions in the country, growing the firm from a single location in upstate New York to a multi-state powerhouse operating in 28 states. As founder as well of Staffing Mastery, Dan brings a no-nonsense, high-impact approach to helping staffing firm leaders grow their teams, scale revenue, and systematize success. His passion lies in training salespeople to think strategically, lead with insight, and win market share—even in the most competitive or frozen economies. Dan also created the Staffing Dashboard, a powerful tool that provides staffing leaders with real-time business performance insights to make informed, data-driven decisions that drive growth and success. A recognized voice in the industry, Dan has coached hundreds of staffing professionals through workshops, playbooks, and performance coaching rooted in real-world results. He's known for breaking down complex sales challenges into repeatable, scalable strategies—empowering firms to shift from reactive selling to proactive demand creation.
Guest: Christian BanachWebsite: www.ChristianBanach.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christianbanachWhat we cover:Christian's journey from concert promoter to sales leaderWhy most firms plateau with word-of-mouth referralsThe evolving landscape of outbound prospectingWhy email marketing is broken (and how to fix it)The mindset shift from lead generation to relationship-makingStrategic planning when your sales cycles are longCreating newsletters your audience actually wants to readChristian's long-term goal to build and exit his business Resources & LinksSign up for Christian's newsletter: ChristianBanach.comKey Questions(00:57) Is there anything else that you'd like to fill in with us about how you got to where you are today?(02:18) So today, who are the ideal clients that you want to work with?(03:37) Is there typically something that clients have, just before they start working with you, that they're either doing or a misconception that they have that's basically holding them back?(06:23) How do you guys get in front of those companies?(08:32) What are some big goals that you guys have in the next year or two?(10:11) And how would that affect your business?(11:19) Is it hard to remove yourself from being the bottleneck?(12:27) Other than maybe being yourself, and if it on that side, what do you feel is the number one roadblock that's getting in the way from you guys achieving the goals that you just shared?(13:33) Do you have any tips or anything like that that you can share with us in regards to email marketing?(17:10) What was the best advice that you have ever received Please.(19:17) What's the best advice you've ever given?(20:54) Do you ever have a call to action on those emails where it's like, if you had a similar story, want to let me know about it or anything like that?(22:46) Why do you feel like relationship making is the future for business development?(24:37) If relationships take a while, and it takes a while before I can get them as business, how does that change your business planning and your future planning and stuff like that?(26:49) Is there anything in particular that you would like to talk about today?(27:49) Where can we go to learn more about you and what you do?Christian Banach https://www.linkedin.com/in/christianbanach/www.ChristianBanach.comVirginia PurnellFunnel & Visibility SpecialistDistinct Digital Marketing(833) 762-5336virginia@distinctdigitalmarketing.comwww.distinctdigitalmarketing.comwww.distinctdigitalmarketing.co
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!Join us as we welcome back Garrath Robinson and first-time guest Sebastian Hidalgo from RevXcel for a deep dive into what it really takes to execute a go-to-market (GTM) strategy effectively today. Spoiler: it's not just about tactics or tools—it's about speed, trust, and team unity.Garrath and Sebastian challenge the old playbook of siloed teams and rigid strategies, and instead offer practical insights into how GTM execution needs to evolve to match buyer behavior and internal team dynamics. From sales being the true face of the brand to using frameworks like STRIKE and SWAT to stay agile, this conversation is packed with hard-earned lessons and bold takes.
In the Pit with Cody Schneider | Marketing | Growth | Startups
In this episode, I sit down with Louis Shulman of Orbit Flows Marketing to dive deep into why a warmed email list is the single most valuable asset a brand can own. We explore how consistent, process-driven newsletters can drive thousands of targeted clicks weekly, share real-world examples and metrics, and unpack the exact frameworks, templates, and AI-powered workflows Louis uses to produce hundreds of newsletters a month for some of the world's fastest-growing companies. Whether you're resurrecting a dormant list or scaling a six-figure send, you'll walk away with concrete steps to build, clean, and monetize your newsletter with repeatable, bite-sized automation.About the GuestLouis Shulman Louis leads client success and content strategy at Orbit Flows, where his team of five writers produces over 50 email newsletters per week for a collective audience exceeding one million subscribers. He's spent years perfecting the playbook for turning long-form expert conversations into high-impact weekly sends that consistently deliver 3,000+ clicks per issue.Key TakeawaysEmail Newsletters as Owned Media: A weekly newsletter is an asset you own and control, unlike social platforms or paid ads.Process Over Perfection: Success comes from simple, repeatable systems (templates, cadence, checklists)—not chasing “perfect” content.Customer Journey Mapping: Structure newsletters around problem-aware, solution-aware, and vendor-aware stages to guide subscribers down your funnel.Bridge of Belief: Craft content that anticipates and answers subscriber objections before they arise—turn objections into subject lines.AI as an Accelerator: Treat AI like a managed teammate—define clear sub-steps and approval checkpoints to get 90% of the work done, then add human polish.List Hygiene & Segmentation: Start conservatively, re-engage dormant subscribers with win-back sequences, and prune non-openers after five sends to protect deliverability.Lead Magnets & Growth: Educational email courses and targeted downloadable assets (e.g., “5 Day Course on Accounting Pitfalls”) drive higher opt-in rates than generic “join my newsletter” pitches.ROI in Click Equity: With a 170,000-subscriber list sending twice weekly, 10,000 clicks per send saves upwards of $800,000 in paid LinkedIn ads annually.Episode Highlights00:00 – 01:00 – Why Email Is King: The host frames newsletters as the most valuable, yet overlooked, marketing channel.01:00 – 02:00 – Sponsor Break: Acclaim Podcasting: Full-service agency that builds your weekly content machine (acclaimpodcasting.com).02:00 – 04:00 – Volume & Scale: Louis shares that Orbit Marketing dispatches 50+ newsletters weekly to 1M+ subscribers—and how one weekly send drives ~3,000 clicks.04:00 – 07:00 – Defining “Newsletter”: Establishing clear expectations, consistent format, and landing-page first mindset for newsletter signups.07:00 – 11:00 – Customer Journey & Content Strategy: Reverse-engineer subscriber beliefs at each funnel stage; problem, solution, vendor.11:00 – 15:00 – Objections into Subject Lines: Proactively address subscriber doubts (e.g., “Is TikTok still worth it?”) in your newsletter copy.15:00 – 18:00 – Ideation & Prompts: Three core content buckets—personal stories, business strategies, industry insights—and 100+ ghostwriting prompts for weekly topics.18:00 – 22:00 – Templates & Systems: Pin down a weekly structure with 3–5 sections to eliminate decision fatigue and ensure consistency.22:00 – 26:00 – AI-Powered Workflow: Build “Orbit Flows” with templates, voices, knowledge bases, and spaces—treat AI like a junior teammate with incremental approvals.26:00 – 30:00 – List Building & Hygiene: Start small with new or cold lists, run win-back sequences, remove non-engagers after five weeks to maintain deliverability.30:00 – 34:00 – Lead Magnet Mastery: Email courses and downloadable guides convert far better than generic newsletter invites—package education, not just tips.34:00 – 38:00 – Productizing Internal Tools: How Orbit spun its own AI newsletter engine into the OrbitFlows SaaS platform, with live demos of templates and research pipelines.38:00 – End – Final Advice & Connect: Louis drops his top three rapid-fire tips for B2B founders and shares where to reach him next.Resources & LinksGuest SocialsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisshulman/Orbit Marketing: https://www.orbitmarketing.io/X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/LouisShulman/Brought to you byAcclaim Podcasting: https://acclaimpodcasting.comOrbitFlows (Built by Louis & Team)Product Site: https://orbitflows.com
In this special 100th episode of Content, Briefly, Jimmy welcomes Kevan Lee and Shannon Deep, co-founders of Bonfire, a brand advisory focused on B2B SaaS. Kevin and Shannon share their unconventional career paths from content and marketing roles at companies like Buffer and Oyster to launching their own agency. They break down what brand reallymeans in the B2B space—why it's more than just a logo or tagline, how it connects to authentic purpose, and why it's critical for differentiation in today's crowded, commoditized market. Tune in for practical insights on building brand foundations, balancing emotional and logical appeals, and why content teams should care about brand now more than ever.You can learn more and book a demo. All Superpath members get 20% off the first year.************************Useful Links:Kevan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevanlee/Shannon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevanlee/Website: https://www.aroundthebonfire.comBonfire Campout: https://campout.aroundthebonfire.com/Bonfire Newsletter: https://newsletter.aroundthebonfire.com/************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!Feeling swamped by marketing operations busy work?AI-powered automation can help you reclaim your time — but knowing what's real versus hype isn't easy.In this episode, Tarun Arora, a marketing tech veteran and founder of RevCrew, explains how AI goes beyond traditional rule-based automation by handling tasks that require human judgment. He shares how "agentic AI" systems act like virtual team members — making decisions, managing your tools, and only checking in when needed.You'll hear real-world examples, from inbox management and campaign optimization to audience selection, showing how AI can eliminate busy work and free you up for more strategic projects.Tarun also offers practical advice on where to start: focus on your biggest needs first, test real use cases, and remember — this is just mile one.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show
In this episode of Content, Briefly, Jimmy chats with Mariela Azcuy, VP of B2B Strategy and Executive Communications at Carve Communications. Mariela shares her career path from agency PR to in-house roles and back, and unpacks how Carve helps tech clients navigate today's complex media landscape. She discusses the evolving definition of PR, the importance of narrative-building, and how AI is transforming agency work. Tune in for practical advice on bridging the gap between content and PR, and learn how to get your brand's story noticed in a crowded market.Huge thanks to Ten Speed for sponsoring this episode. Schedule a consultation and mention "Superpath" for 10% off.************************Useful Links:Mariela on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marielaazcuy/Website: https://carvecomms.com/************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.
Steve Voith, VP of Revenue Marketing at Kyriba, joins Evan and Steph to talk about his career journey in Demand Generation. Steve discusses his journey from a novice marketer to a seasoned professional, sharing critical insights into the evolution of demand generation and the significant impacts of various learning experiences throughout his professional life. As Steve dives deep into his career milestones, he emphasizes the importance of adaptability and leveraging technology to stay ahead in the fast-paced marketing industry.A pioneer of the Demand Gen title, Steve focuses on the technological advancements in CRM systems and how they redefined lead management and marketing strategies, as well as challenges and opportunities that come with being a demand generation leader in diverse environments, from working in-house to consulting with agencies. Steve highlights the changes in marketing technologies, the need for effective communication strategies, and the importance of using data to drive business decisionsEpisode topics: #marketing, #leadgen, #demandgeneration, #sales, #B2BSaaS, #digitalmarketing ______Subscribe to Stacking Growth on Spotify and YouTubeLearn More About Refine LabsSign Up For Our NewsletterConnect with the guest:Steve VoithConnect with the hosts:Evan HughesSteph Crugnola
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In this episode, Nick Abraham, founder of cold email agency Leadbird, joins the show for a deep dive into what's working right now in the fast-changing world of email marketing. With over 400 clients and millions of emails sent monthly, Nick shares tactical insights from the frontlines — from deliverability strategies to AI usage and cold calling.The conversation covers the recent Apollo crackdown, the shift in data sourcing, and how agencies can safeguard infrastructure to avoid total shutdowns. Nick also unpacks the importance of validating your offer, tips for scaling cold outreach, and the resurrection of cold calling as a powerful channel when paired with smart automation.Timestamps 00:00 – Why cold email is still a top channel 00:39 – State of cold email: "bloody ocean" tactics 02:12 – Apollo's recent changes & implications 05:00 – Data sourcing alternatives (ListKit, Sales Nav scraping) 07:12 – Clay's rise & how to enrich leads 10:25 – EDU/Microsoft panel loopholes and risks 14:00 – The right infra mix: Google, Microsoft, SMTP 18:00 – Cost breakdown for 10K cold emails 20:00 – Who cold email works for — and who it doesn't 23:35 – Cold email templates that work today 28:01 – Cold calling revival & voicemail strategy 33:00 – Smart personalization that stands out 37:00 – Overuse of AI: when it backfires 41:50 – Volume vs optimization: when to scale 47:00 – Warm-up pools, deliverability myths & final thoughtsKey PointsApollo Crackdown: Apollo recently slashed its free plan from 10,000 to 100 leads/month, killing off common scraping strategies. Agencies must now diversify data sources.Email Infrastructure Strategy: Nick recommends splitting accounts evenly across Google, Microsoft, and SMTP providers (like MailReef), using separate tenants for each domain to reduce risk.Top Tools Mentioned: Smartlead, Instantly, LeadMagic, Salesfinity (for cold calling), Clay, HyperType, ListKit.Cold Email Templates That Work: Short emails with a bold subject line, a clearly stated pain point, social proof, and a clear CTA. Two-step sequences are outperforming long follow-ups.AI in Cold Email: Use AI for variable enrichment (like local restaurants or recent promotions) — but not for full email writing. Over-automation feels robotic and gets ignored.Cold Calling Rebirth: Combining parallel dialers, voicemails, and email follow-ups creates a high-performing outbound flywheel. Nick's simple pitch script: “Can I get 30 seconds, or tell me to kick rocks?”Warm-Up Pools Controversy: Instantly and Smartlead warm-up pools have downsides. Use them carefully and always monitor bounce rates.Who Should Use Cold Email?✔ SaaS, agencies, and service businesses with high LTVs ($5K+) ✔ Founders with a unique, compelling offer ✔ Companies with a working sales process & CRM follow-up ✘ Commodity offers (e.g., generic e-comm marketing) with no clear differentiationNotable Quotes"Don't build a pricing model on a hack. It's a matter of time until it breaks." "Most people overthink deliverability — bad offers are the real issue." "You can get 0.8% replies or 0% if your inbox gets shut down — choose wisely."Guest Links:https://www.leadbird.io/https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-abrahamhttps://x.com/NickAbraham12
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!When your marketing team needs to produce thousands of content pieces each month, the operational challenges can become overwhelming. In this eye-opening conversation with Satej Sirur, founder and CEO of Rocketium, we explore the emerging field of Creative Operations and how it's transforming how enterprise brands manage their content production.Satej shares how his "pet project" evolved into a platform that now helps performance marketers and creative teams work more efficiently together. We unpack the fundamental tension between creative expression and performance optimization - a struggle familiar to anyone who's tried balancing brand guidelines with marketing results.The most fascinating insights come when we discuss what makes creative content perform well. While marketers claim to be data-driven, few have systematically analyzed which creative elements drive results. Should your logo be larger in awareness campaigns? Does showing a product outside its packaging perform better than inside? Most decisions rely on gut feelings rather than data. Rocketium changes this by extracting creative attributes and correlating them with performance metrics to identify winning patterns.For organizations producing high volumes of content (2,000+ pieces monthly) with substantial teams (10+ members) and significant ad spend ($5-10M minimum), Creative Ops solutions offer a way to eliminate repetitive tasks and focus on strategic decisions. Satej emphasizes that technology alone isn't enough - implementing these solutions requires a cultural shift toward data-informed decision-making while still respecting creative expertise.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show
Welcome to The Ecommerce Braintrust podcast, brought to you by Julie Spear, Head of Retail Marketplace Services, and Jordan Ripley, Director of Retail Operations. Today we're bringing back our very own Director of Retail Marketplace Strategy, Pat Petriello, to discuss how the savviest brands are balancing the needs of brand vs. performance marketing, how to avoid a life sentence in ROAS Jail, and the all-important 95/5 rule. Tune in to find out more! KEY TAKEAWAYS In this episode, Julie, Jordan, and Pat discuss: Introduction to ROAS Jail: Pat Patriello explains the concept of "ROAS jail," where marketers focus solely on Return on Advertising Spend (ROAS), leading to inefficiencies and short-term growth strategies. The 95-5 Rule: Only 5% of consumers are in the market for any given product at any time. The focus should be on brand building for the 95% who are not currently shopping. 60-40 Rule: Introduced by Pat as a guideline, suggesting a budget allocation of 60% towards brand-building and 40% towards performance marketing. This ratio helps balance short-term sales goals with long-term brand equity. Brand vs. Performance Marketing: Discussion on how these strategies differ and the importance of emotional connection through branding to attract long-term customers. Amazon's Role: Insight into how Amazon is transitioning to accommodate brand building alongside its historical strength in direct sales and conversion. Practical Recommendations: Tips for business leaders on how to integrate brand marketing into existing performance-focused strategies without necessarily increasing overall spending. Examples of Effective Brand Building: Brands like Patagonia are highlighted as successfully creating emotional connections that lead consumers directly to their products, bypassing competitive marketplace auctions.
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In this episode, Cody hosts Romain Torres, co-founder of ArcAds, to dive into the next evolution of paid advertising — using AI to generate and test thousands of ad creatives at scale. Romain shares the strategies behind ArcAds' explosive success and how marketers can now use AI agents, automation, and avatars to unlock hyper-efficiency in ad performance. This episode is a masterclass in modern performance marketing for eCommerce, mobile apps, and agencies alike.Timestamps: 00:00 – Why top e-commerce advertisers generate 1,000s of creatives01:10 – The old UGC content model: $100K for 1,000 ad variations01:57 – ArcAds and AI avatars explained03:00 – Lessons from gaming companies and their ad testing obsession06:30 – How to make ad testing 10x cheaper and easier with AI10:20 – Meta's only recommendation to big advertisers: more creatives13:10 – Why creative volume is now the biggest growth lever15:00 – Romain's 6-week creative testing sprint process20:05 – The “Notion board” system for organizing ad experiments25:40 – Automating script generation via Facebook Ad Library + Whisper29:20 – AI's true strength: copying and remixing top-performing formats35:15 – Real examples: language apps, e-com, and viral ad structures40:05 – Why localization with AI avatars is a game-changer44:40 – Using failure and emotion in ads (gaming tactics for e-com)47:50 – “Ads that don't feel like ads” – winning creative philosophy49:10 – Final frameworks and where to start with AI adsKey Points: • AI is shifting ad creative from an expensive, human-led process to scalable, high-volume automation — unlocking massive performance gains• Meta's performance advice is now centered on one thing: creative iteration• ArcAds enables users to generate hundreds of UGC-style video ads using AI avatars, voice synthesis, and automated scripting• Creative success depends on three pillars: strong scripts, tested variations of actors, and good editing• Winning ad strategies rely less on creative instinct and more on statistical volume — test everything, let the data decideCreative Frameworks Discussed:Weekly Iteration LoopOrganize creative ideas in a Notion boardTest 10+ variations per conceptReview weekly results → double down on winnersCommit to a 6-week testing cycle to uncover scalable conceptsAI Agent Automation WorkflowScrape competitors' Facebook ads using the Ads Library APITranscribe videos with WhisperAnalyze hooks and trends with GPTGenerate new scripts, swap in AI avatars, and produce at scaleBest Performing Ad FormatsUGC-style narration with product demo B-rollSplit-screen “AI tutor” dialogue format for language appsLocalized voiceovers for different geographiesStreet interview simulations using avatars for finance/dating appsGrowth Tactics: • Use AI to localize ad content and reach global markets without extra production• Automate creative inspiration by spying on competitors and remixing their winners• Build feedback loops with performance data to fuel ongoing ad ideation• Don't try to guess the best creative — let scale + data reveal the winnerNotable Quotes:“You just don't know which actor is best for your ad until you test it.” – Romain Torres “Meta figured out the targeting. Now you have to figure out the creative.” “AI is bad at being creative — but it's amazing at copying what works.” “Your edge is not doing one thing well. It's doing everything at 100x volume.”Guest: https://fr.linkedin.com/in/romain-torres-arcadshttps://x.com/rom1trshttps://www.arcads.ai/
In this episode of Super Path, Jimmy chats with Carly Baker from HubSpot, a legendary content marketing company. Carly shares her journey from being a professional musician to leading media partnerships at HubSpot. She discusses the evolution of the HubSpot Media Network, the importance of an audience-first approach, and the metrics driving content decisions for podcasts and YouTube channels. Tune in to learn how Carly navigates the complexities of media partnerships and her insights on the future of content marketing.Huge thanks to Ten Speed for sponsoring this episode. Schedule a consultation and mention "Superpath" for 10% off.************************Useful Links:Website: https://www.hubspot.comCarly on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlycbaker/The Radical Freedom of 'Wherever You Get Your Podcasts'The Secrets Behind Successful Corporate Engineering Blogs************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.
Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!What does it take to elevate marketing operations from a technical support function to a strategic business driver? AJ Driscoll reveals how understanding product marketing fundamentals transformed his career trajectory from system administrator to co-leader of an entire marketing department.The journey begins with a data-driven approach to validating and refining ideal customer profiles (ICPs). Rather than accepting conventional wisdom about target markets, AJ demonstrates how combining quantitative analysis with qualitative research creates powerful insights that sales teams can actually use. He walks us through his methodology for evaluating historical win rates, customer demographics, and industry trends to identify where businesses should focus their efforts.Most remarkably, AJ shares his unique philosophy on cross-functional collaboration. "My job is to help other people be better at their jobs," he explains, detailing how this service-oriented mindset helped him build relationships throughout his organizations. From creating automated alerts for sales teams to designing ROI tracking systems with finance, these collaborative efforts eventually earned him company-wide recognition typically reserved for top salespeople.For marketing operations professionals looking to expand their impact, AJ offers practical advice on developing business intelligence skills and becoming industry experts. He shares how new AI tools have accelerated the research process, allowing ops professionals to quickly gain domain knowledge that enhances their strategic contributions. The combination of technical expertise, product marketing understanding, and collaborative spirit creates the foundation for a marketing operations professional who can truly drive business success.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations ProfessionalsSupport the show
This episode features an interview with Luke Arno, CRO at Transcend, a privacy platform that empowers brands to enhance regulatory stances and improve customer relationships through data transparency, consent, and control.Luke dives into the different marketing strategies needed when you are prioritizing data privacy and aiming to only engage with prospects who opt in. He also discusses making the sales function an advisor and consultant to potential customers. Key Takeaways:One size fits all messaging is not successful and does more damage than good. It needs to go. Marketing while prioritizing data privacy is a different ball game and requires a series of calculated investments based on the target market. Empowering your sales leaders as thought leaders, and asking them to act as advisors, makes them very valuable at events. Quote: “ How do we most effectively deliver thought leadership or ask the right questions from our customers about the problems they're solving? And we invest deeply in enabling our sales force to be subject matter experts, and then therefore we rely on them to help scale, to meet our customers and open up the conversation in a trusted environment. Hence the name of the segment, the trust tree. But that whole process requires sales rep to put their sales position down and, effectively, ship the paradigm for how they think about engaging customers as more of a consultant or an advisor. So, we try and delight our customers with a sales free experience, but we do rely deeply on the employees we hire at every function to effectively manage the conversation as a trusted advisor.”Episode Timestamps: *(07:47) The Trust Tree: Thoughts on marketing strategy from a CRO *(21:52) The Playbook: The psychology of prospecting*(37:03) The Dust Up: Show up prepared to articulate your position*(40:45) Quick Hits: Luke's quick hitsSponsor:Pipeline Visionaries is brought to you by Qualified.com. Qualified helps you turn your website into a pipeline generation machine with PipelineAI. Engage and convert your most valuable website visitors with live chat, chatbots, meeting scheduling, intent data, and Piper, your AI SDR. Visit Qualified.com to learn more.Links:Connect with Ian on LinkedInConnect with Luke on LinkedInLearn more about TranscendLearn more about Caspian Studios
AI Agent hype is everywhere—but what does it actually take to build an AI agent that delivers results? Not just one that chats back in clever text, but one that does real, meaningful work inside your business processes.In this live, tactical session, we're walking you through the step-by-step method to combine workflows and agents into real-world automations. From defining where agents fit, to layering in “critic stages” that improve quality, to setting up humans-in-the-loop when needed—this is your no-fluff guide to operational AI.Tom Winter, Co-Founder of SEOwind and a true practitioner when it comes to building intelligent systems that scale. He doesn't just talk about AI—he codes it, tests it 150 times, and knows what breaks (and how to fix it). With years of experience applying automation across SaaS, SEO, and content creation, Tom will reveal the frameworks, prompts, and hidden tricks that actually work.If you're tired of the hype and ready to build smarter, this session is for you.
In this episode of Content Briefly, Jimmy chats with Dan Levy, founder of Storyline. Dan shares his journey from Spark Sheet to launching Storyline, a business focused on strategic storytelling for B2B tech companies. He discusses the importance of positioning, crafting compelling narratives, and how his background in journalism shapes his approach to content marketing. Tune in to learn how Dan helps companies distill their vision and positioning into powerful stories that drive marketing and sales efforts.Thanks to our friends at Brevo for sponsoring this episode. Get started for free or use code SUPERPATH to save 50% on Starter and Business Plans for the first 3 months of an annual subscription. Try Brevo today and elevate your marketing efforts!************************Useful Links:Website: https://danjlevy.com/Dan Levy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjlevy/************************Stay Tuned:► Website: https://www.superpath.co/► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@superpath► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/superpath/► Twitter: https://twitter.com/superpathco************************Don't forget to leave us a five-star review and subscribe to our YouTube channel.
Is your business ready for a world where AI not only learns on its own—but teaches others to do the same?From top universities using AI to teach students critical thinking, to self-spawning AI agents, to a digital brain finding diamonds in Minecraft, this episode is your all-access pass to what just happened in AI—and how it affects your business today.If you think "vibe coding" sounds like a buzzword, wait till you hear about “vibe marketing,” “vibe teaching,” and the not-so-distant future of vibe-everything workplaces—where humans simply speak, and AI executes.In this AI news of Leveraging AI, you'll discover:How Anthropic's Claude is revolutionizing higher education with a Socratic AI modelWhy OpenAI's free ChatGPT Plus for students may be less strategic than it soundsWhat “vibe coding” is—and how it's already bleeding into marketing, sales, and beyondThe fastest ways to upskill in AI (and why OpenAI Academy + business-focused training both matter)OpenAI's $40B raise, its for-profit pivot deadline, and Sam Altman's next power movesThe rise of real-time AI agents and why agent orchestration is about to be your next business superpowerRobots in Amazon warehouses and Audi factories—labor shift or labor shock?AI-generated invoices for fraud? Why metadata isn't enough to stop deepfake accountingRunway's Gen-4 video tool that keeps characters consistent—Hollywood, beware.MIT and Carnegie Mellon's new findings that may break the “bigger = better” myth in AI model trainingAI finds diamonds in Minecraft. No training. No help. Just... instinct?Bonus:
Ever wondered how to create awareness campaigns that not only grab attention but make a real impact?Margarida Barreto and I are going live to show you how it's done—step by step. -✨Margarida will share her expert workflow for building awareness videos using cutting-edge AI tools like ChatGPT, MidJourney, and more.This isn't just theory. We'll take you through the exact process—from ideation to the final masterpiece. -You'll learn:The best tools for brainstorming and scripting.How to bring ideas to life with visuals and animations.The secrets to making your campaigns resonate with any audience.Whether you're in design, marketing, or leading a team at the C-Suite level, this webinar is packed with actionable insights you can implement immediately.Check out all the links to the hybrid posts: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCXG7D1MtMX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==https://www.linkedin.com/posts/margaridabarreto_hybrids-aicc-aicccreators-activity-7209873664396169217-ADLZ?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAATIPjkBd1vkM7fcVJkVlUG9Th3um1mFqichttps://www.instagram.com/reel/C8udsBVI9T-/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8rvQwNi1p1/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8m4B9uofVN/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8ww8NyoCJF/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8e4q5nINkQ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==About Leveraging AI The Ultimate AI Course for Business People: https://multiplai.ai/ai-course/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@Multiplai_AI/ Connect with Isar Meitis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/isarmeitis/ Free AI Consultation: https://multiplai.ai/book-a-call/ Join our Live Sessions, AI Hangouts and newsletter: https://services.multiplai.ai/events If you've enjoyed or benefited from some of the insights of this episode, leave us a five-star review on your favorite podcast platform, and let us know what you learned, found helpful, or liked most about this show!
Sarah McConnell, VP, Demand Generation at Qualified, delves into the integration of AI into existing marketing strategies.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
VP, Demand Generation at Qualified, Sarah McConnell, delves into the strategies for doubling down on full stack AE's or diversifying your approach. She emphasizes the importance of understanding your brand differentiators and how to leverage competitive intelligence to enhance your marketing efforts. Sarah's insights shed light on turning your website into a pipeline generation machine with Qualified's solutions.Show NotesConnect With: Sarah McConnell: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Sarah McConnell, VP, Demand Generation at Qualified, delves into the topic of people's privacy concerns with AI Show NotesConnect With: Sarah McConnell: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Sarah McConnell, VP, Demand Generation at Qualified, delves into the topic of investing first in AI-driven sales or customer support. In this episode, Sarah shares her perspectives on discussing the benefits of AI-driven sales and customer support, implementing AI for personalized customer interactions, and leveraging AI to streamline lead qualification and nurturing. Show NotesConnect With: Sarah McConnell: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Sarah McConnell, VP, Demand Generation at Qualified, discusses using AI to drive pipeline growth. In this episode, Sarah outlines the three stages of AI integration: pre-AI, co-pilot, and agentic AI. They discuss the implications of replacing human SDRs with AI, emphasizing the need for onboarding and quality control. Success stories include Demandbase doubling their pipeline and Greenhouse increasing meetings by 130%. The conversation also touches on the build vs. buy decision for AI SDRs, considering cost and expertise. Show NotesConnect With: Sarah McConnell: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.