Podcast appearances and mentions of jill gutowitz

JoJo Siwa's 'Karma' én Coachella 2024 brachten zoveel teweeg... dat we het deze week eens goed over de stand van de queer popmuziek moeten hebben! Van Billie Eilish' gelekte expliciete (queer!) songteksten tot aan de scharen van Renée Rapp op Coachella en hét optreden van Chappell Roan: je hoort het hier allemaal.

It's me, hi, I'm the problem, it's me, here with an update to one of our most-streamed episodes of all time, the cult of exalted idol bestie goddess mother queen angel (no, that's not pandering to the standom! They're not intimidating at all!), Taylor Swift. Somehow, the pop icon's “cult” has only exploded in size and religiosity since our last discussion, which was uploaded right as Midnights was dropping, pre-Eras Tour. Needless to say, there's a lotttttt to catch up on. Whether you stan Taylor til the death or truly do not get what all the fuss is about, we hope you enjoy this part 2!! To check out Amanda's new book, The Age of Magical Overthinking, click here! Head to Isa Medina's IG or website to tell her where to perform stand up, keep up with her work and learn more about her new podcast coming in 2024. The Magical Overthinkers newsletter can be found here. Follow us on IG @soundslikeacultpod  I was never good at telling jokes but the punchline goes: If Taylor told her Swifties to kill a man, they would. They would kill a man for Taylor, because her music means *that* much to them. But the "cult" of country-pop sensation Taylor Swift is not just about the music. It's about the Swiftie community, the rituals, the beliefs, the aesthetic, and (of course) Taylor's cult of personality. This extreme fandom definitely seems classically culty, but is it dangerous just because it's fanatical? That's the question on Amanda and Isa's agenda today, and they've solicited pop culture connoisseur Jill Gutowitz, author of the essay collection GIRLS CAN KISS NOW, to help them figure it out. 

In September 2002, the Russian pop duo t.A.T.u. released their smash single "All The Things She Said." The song is a grungy euro-dance track, and the video features the lead singers Lena Katina and Julia Volkova dressed in schoolgirl uniforms and making out in the rain. The video was banned from UK television for being "not really suitable for children." That did not stop the song from becoming a global sensation. It topped the charts in 13 countries, and in the United States the duo would perform the song over and over on live television. During performances, they made a point to do as they did in their video and make out.But here's the thing: neither Katina or Volkova identified as lesbians or queer at the time. From Harry Styles to Katy Perry, debates over queerbaiting have raged online, and t.A.T.u.'s "All The Things She Said" fits squarely in that lineage. But despite roleplaying as lesbians for their own success, is there something redeemable in how they represented lesbianism at a time when no one else would put two women kissing on camera? And how should we look at this song today?It's Been A Minute senior producer Barton Girdwood talked this out with Girls Can Kiss Now author, Jill Gutowitz. You can email us at IBAM@npr.org.

Erin Ryan and Alyssa Mastromonaco celebrate Donny Trump's birthday by covering his second indictment and mocking the ugly bathroom where he hid classified federal documents. Plus, why is everyone at the Young Women's Leadership Conference full of…old and irrelevant conservative women gaslighting people into having babies? Then, Tien Tran and Jill Gutowitz come on to talk age-gap relationships: when it makes sense, when it's actively desirable, and when it's simply nasty. Finally, bad drivers and good radio in Sani-Petty.For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast.Show NotesIndigenous knowledge, bravery, vigilance: how young siblings survived in Colombia's perilous jungle (The Guardian)Good Food on KCRW 

Today, we're talking about what the book about our lives would be called. Hint: someone's book title may or may not be today's episode title

Writer Jill Gutowitz joins Greta to bond over their different cheating styles in high school, only after an extensive deep dive into what Miley Cyrus was up to in 2009. Jill bravely admits her fandom of Hannah Montana as a teenager and being the captain of the tennis team despite being the lowest ranked player. We love some school spirit! Also, remember having to ask to use the bathroom during class? Jill did it during our recording... throwback!   Buy Jill's beautiful and smart-looking book "Girls Can Kiss Now" at your local independent bookstore!   To see Greta in DC in March: https://www.kennedy-center.org/whats-on/explore-by-genre/comedy/2022-2023/kc-cabaret/ To see Greta in LA in March: https://www.elysiantheater.com/shows-calendar   Watch this, and all episodes of Senior Superlatives with Greta Titelman, here.   Follow Greta:Twitter: @gertie_birdInstagram: @gertiebirdTikTok: @gertie_birdFollow The Show:Instagram: @seniorsuperlativespod Follow the Jill:Instagram: @jillgutowitzTwitter: @jillboard Like the show? Rate Senior Superlatives on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Greta. Advertise on Senior Superlatives via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Catching up on some hot take submissions from the past couple months, we discuss the politics of "coming out," especially within the context of online queer fanbases bullying celebrities out of the closet re: Kit Connor (whom we mistakenly call the name of an American Girl Doll in this episode lol), Becky Albertalli, and the misusage of the term "queerbait" in the current media landscape. Sunny complains extensively about the popular liberal queer assimilationist politics especially as mediated by the internet, and references the following books this episode— The Society of the Spectacle by Guy DeBord, Lesbian Choices by Claudia Card, The Persistent Desire: A Butch-Femme Reader edited by Joan Nestle, and probably some other titles. We talk about using the word "dyke," the loneliness of lesbianism and isolation of navigating the world as someone who doesn't center men, history of autistic lesbians, and online queer community vs. IRL lesbian spaces (and the lack of them.) We discuss an essay collection we both adored but that Renaissance connected with on a spiritual and psychic level; Girls Can Kiss Now by Jill Gutowitz. We talk all about the lesbian pop culture hilarity it compasses, as well as how earnest and genuine the writing feels. Jill, please come on the podcast! For media recommendations, Sunny really enjoyed watching an Irish lesbian film A Date For Mad Mary (2016) in their COVID quarantine era, and Renaissance raves about Tár (2022). Thanks for joining us for this episode! You can find us on Twitter, YouTube, Substack, Instagram, Tik Tok, and Letterboxd if you want to connect! Send your hot takes to thelavendermenacepodcast@gmail.com and support us on Patreon for bonus content and early access: https://www.patreon.com/TheLavenderMenace

Happy Hanukkah, Virgins!! To celebrate the festival of lights, writer and director Jill Gutowitz joins Fran & Rose to talk about the 2017 Jewish lesbian film Disobedience that has nothing to do with Hanukkah but everything to do with spit, Mamma Mia and brown hair! Plus, takes on that other winter holiday, Christmas, and Titanique tag our finsta @likeavirgin42069See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A compilation of some of the best Queery conversations from 2022, featuring clips from Episode #224 with Melissa King, Episode #227 with Samantha Ronson, and Episode #231 with Jill Gutowitz. 

This week I'm joined by the brilliant author - Jill Gutowitz. I loved hearing about her story and hope you do too. Please rate and review. Thanks. Suzi xxx And if you want to get in touch with me on the show, here's how... email: hello@outwithsuziruffell.com twitter: @outwithsuzi   A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I was never good at telling jokes but the punchline goes: If Taylor told her Swifties to kill a man, they would. They would kill a man for Taylor, because her music means *that* much to them. But the "cult" of country-pop sensation Taylor Swift is not just about the music. It's about the Swiftie community, the rituals, the beliefs, the aesthetic, and (of course) Taylor's cult of personality. This extreme fandom definitely seems classically culty, but is it dangerous just because it's fanatical? That's the question on Amanda and Isa's agenda today, and they've solicited pop culture connoisseur Jill Gutowitz, author of the essay collection GIRLS CAN KISS NOW, to help them figure it out.  Go to DAILYHARVEST.com/cult to get up to forty dollars off your first box!  Grab your Liquid I.V. in bulk nationwide at Costco or get 15% off when you go to LIQUIDIV.COM and use code cult at checkout. Frame your photos or send someone the perfect gift today at Framebridge.com.

Fall is sapphic and so is this episode! We are joined by the CEO of lesbian Twitter this week -  writer, director, and author, Jill Gutowitz (Girls Can Kiss Now, The Ladies, Gayme Show)!!! Jill and Nathan discuss at length Jill's incredibly funny, touching, and RESEARCHED novel, Girls Can Kiss Now. The memoir meets essay collection touches on the arrival of lesbian media, Jill's experience working in Hollywood, and the queerest parts of the aughts and beyond. Jill also shares about her experience as a professional Taylor Swift fan, writing on Gayme Show, and shares the full scoop about her Outfest premiered short, The Ladies. Turn off Forlklore and press play on this episode. Secure The Gag is a queer comedy podcast hosted by comedian and writer, Nathan Pearson. Tune in every Monday as Nathan interviews funny queers about their infamous online videos, bits, and success.  Nathan Pearson is a comedian, actor, writer, and host of Secure The Gag based in Brooklyn, NY by way of Atlanta, GA. Recently, he was featured on HBOMax's Humans By Orientation platform and on the UCB Character's Welcome where his “Guy F**ks His Bully's Dad” sketch became a viral sensation. Online, Nathan has amassed a following on TikTok and has been featured in Vulture, Instinct, Queerty, Logo's NewNowNext, and more.  Secure The Gag is part of the WUSSY Podcast Network hosted by WUSSY Mag @wussymag Hosted by Nathan Pearson @nathankpearson Produced by Jon Dean @jondeanphoto Edited by Ryan Andrews @rtayrews Podcast Art created by Beardy Glasses @beardy.glasses Podcast Music by DJ Helix @1djhelix  Follow @SecureTheGag

Erin Ryan and Alyssa Mastromonaco are joined by Jill Gutowitz and Dr. Chanda Prescod-Weinstein to discuss the queering of reality dating shows and the undeniable chemistry between the two current Bachelorettes. Plus, rounding out the summer with a I Feel Petty/Sanity Corner combo!Show NotesSix on Broadway Tony Performance 

Jill Gutowitz, author of Girls Can Kiss Now, provides a tutorial through Lesbian Canon, from Angela Bassett's arms to Neve Campbell's existence to...the wind. Plus, just how scared should we be of Monkeypox? And more importantly, ARE YOU HOT? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Un año más el Orgullo ya está aquí y, aunque no hemos preparado un especial propiamente dicho, aparte de hablar de varias series teen LGTBQ+ ("Heartstopper", "First kill", "Ser o no ser") y de algunos libros escritos por chicas lesbianas y bisexuales contando sus experiencias (Jill Gutowitz, Grace Perry y Jen Winston), nos abrimos en canal para contaros cuáles fueron nuestros referentes de adolescencia (allá por el Pleistoceno) y cómo vivimos nosotros nuestro proceso de asunción y salida del armario. Porque parece que todo es superguay ahora mismo, pero todavía nos siguen matando por ser quienes somos, como lo demuestra el atentado llamado "islamista" (aunque sea un crimen de odio homófobo) en un bar de ambiente de Oslo, de la muy civilizada Noruega.¡Venga, dale al play y entérate de todo, todo y todo!

Hey all! This week we talk all about Jill Gutowitz's book of essays Girls Can Kiss Now. A hilarious and personal telling of stories about Jill's life, we cannot express how much fun we had reading this book! Theme Song by Man With Roses

episode 11 of season 3: an 80 minute episode from us???? crazy! in responding to a listener submitted hot take from Adin, we discuss our experiences with and how we engage with race/gender/perception and community as gaylor swifties of color, when a lot of the gaylor community seems to be white. Sunny mentions @sillygoofygirlseekinggf on Tik Tok, and Renaissance addresses their apprehension towards Taylor's shifting fan base. We discuss the queerness of hyper femininity and Taylor Swift's queerness, especially in regards to who and why some people recognize it. Simply put, the other pop girlies are not doing it like blondie! Renaissance also references Whitney Houston as an example of a woman existing in the public perception as an icon for the gay community, when she, like many other queer pop icons, was gay herself. Sunny references the Patreon exclusive bonus episode we recorded discussing the 1996 film The Watermelon Woman (dir. Cheryl Dunye.) ( btw join our Patreon for access to 2 bonus episodes a month as well as early access to episodes and the video recordings of episodes! https://www.patreon.com/TheLavenderMenace) For the media analysis portion of this episode, we talk hyperpop and rank + review the new Charli XCX album, CRASH. In our media recommendations, Renaissance pitches the 1927 silent film, Children of Divorce, which is surprisingly non-problematic and leads Sunny to mention Henry James' The Portrait of a Lady and Theodore Dreiser's Sister Carrie. Sunny's book recommendation this week is the recently released essay collection Girls Can Kiss Now by Jill Gutowitz, whom we discussed in our previous episode's hot take about the New York Post's shitty article about lesbian fashion. Jill, if you're listening, you should come on the podcast after Renaissance reads your book!!! We had the author of The Divines, Ellie Eaton, on the podcast season 1, so hit us up at (and other listeners, send your hot takes here as well) thelavendermenacepodcast@gmail.com. You can find us on Instagram, Twitter, and Letterboxd for more unhinged swiftie ramblings. XOXO

Writer and humorist Jill Gutowitz joins us to discuss Girls Can Kiss Now (Atria, March 8), “a witty essay collection about pop culture and queerness” (Kirkus). Then our editors join with their reading recommendations for the week, with books by Kate Folk and Matt Phelan.

 This week's spicy double feature is X and Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) - both slasher films set in Texas, with "X" featuring some heavy influences from Chainsaw Massacre. We catch up on Righteous Gemstones season 2 and discuss "Girls Can Kiss Now" by Jill Gutowitz. What We've Been Watching 0:40 - 8:44Frightening Statistic 8:44 - 13:54X Movie Review 13:54 - 37:12Texas Chainsaw Massacre Review 50:05

Yesterday's "uber d*ke" is today's "it girl," and we've got Jill Gutowitz (Girls Can Kiss Now) on the pod to explain how we got here. Jill holds our triggered hands and walks us through the key moments in lesbian pop culture that scarred us, and eventually freed us. How is Perez Hilton different from wishful queers? Why hasn't Lindsay Lohan been herself? What is it about Neve Campbell's bangs? Also, what do milfs have to do with expressing desire for physical harm? We explore these questions and more. And, if you want even more on these topics, check out Jill's new book, Girls Can Kiss Now. If you love it, be sure to leave a positive review! Plus, both our gayest things involve music videos. And finally, we end with a question from a listener with rude-ass friends. -Get extra content EACH WEEK, Ad Free episodes, support the pod, and get to know other listeners by joining our Patreon community. If you can't support the pod on a monthly basis, please consider tipping us through Paypal or purchasing 1-on-1s and cameos through Jemi. We truly appreciate it! -We've got MERCH. -For related content, follow us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram -Help more folks find us and Leave Us a 5-star Review if you like what you hear! -Theme song by There Is No Mountain Sponsors: Helix: Helixsleep.com/dykingout for up to $200 off your purchase BetterHelp: As a listener, you'll get 10% off your first month by visiting our sponsor at betterhelp.com/do  Best Fiends: Join us and the millions of Americans who are already playing this game. Download Best Fiends for FREE on The Apple APP store or Google Play. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

An episode that will undoubtedly be used as a resource on LGBTQIA+ allyship and gay rights manual for the alien species forever into the future. Writer and world's biggest and last remaining Pinkberry customer Jill Gutowitz stops by to explain to us (and the aliens) that adjusting a lesbian's clothing is actually a homophobic slur, how to get a boyfriend through AIM as a young closeted resident of New Jersey, and that the looks exchanged by hot young cheerleaders in an early aughts cinematic masterpiece are actually peak gay. Jill's Artifacts AIM (Technology) Freaky Friday (2003 Film) The glances exchanged between Kirsten Dunst, Gabrielle Union, and Eliza Dushku in Bring It On (Cinematic Moment) Pinkberry (Food) A Taylor Swift Avatar On Twitter Telling You To Die (Experience) Follow Jill on Twitter and Instagram and buy her new book, Girls Can Kiss Now, out now from Simon & Schuster.  Watch the video version of the episode Follow the show @keepingrecordspod Advertise on Keeping Records via Gumball.fm See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jill Gutowitz is a lesbian writer from New Jersey (now living in LA) and has been published in the likes of 'The New Yorker' and 'Vanity Fair' and she joins us to talk about her first book 'Girls Can Kiss Now' which is a collection of personal essays which focus on identity, desire and self-worth. In this episode Jill talks about the book, self-worth in the LGBTQ community, the influence of popular culture on how we see ourselves and how 'Orange Is The New Black' changed everything for her.Find out more about Jill: http://www.jillgutowitz.com 

Author Jill Gutowitz sits down with Cameron to discuss being investigated by the FBI for a vital tweet, being an expert on lesbian pop culture, and the best queer movies!

Erin Ryan and Alyssa Mastromonaco break down the unprecedented amount of education bills targeting teachers and students. Plus Ai-jen Poo joins to discuss the National Domestic Workers Alliance push to bring fairness and dignity to domestic workers, and touch base on the state of the care agenda in Congress. Then Rheeqrheeq Chainey and Jill Gutowitz (new book Girls Can Kiss Now out now!) stop by to discuss the evolution of queer culture in film and television and how pop culture has helped shaped our identity. Plus I Feel Petty! Show Notes: Jill Gutowitz's book: Girls Can Kiss Now https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781982158507 National Domestic Workers Alliance https://www.domesticworkers.org/ Women you should know: Dorothy Lee Bolden: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/20/obituaries/dorothy-bolden-overlooked.html Fox Sisters: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-fox-sisters-and-the-rap-on-spiritualism-99663697/ How to help Ukraine: Ukrainian Congress Committee of America (UCCA) Donate to Humanitarian Effort https://www.mightycause.com/story/M1wzpf United Help Ukraine Donate to the Life-saving medical supplies to Ukraine's front lines https://www.facebook.com/donate/1790857681112387 Revived Soldiers Ukraine Donate to Treatment of the wounded and the provision of hospitals https://www.facebook.com/donate/349402380213614/2361219087352065  Razom for Ukraine Donate to Tactical medical training and emergency response in Ukraine https://www.facebook.com/donate/1158240871580789/10223987229401655/  Nova Ukraine Donate to Humanitarian Aid to Ukraine https://www.facebook.com/donate/1137971146948461/5313902711988404/ For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Listen here queers, you are going to want to get Girls Can Kiss Now ASAP if you haven't already. In the book, you get to read amazing essays like "Memeing with the FBI," "One Day, You'll All Be Gay," Supercut of Lesbian Yearning," and "Step On Me, Julianne Moore." These essays are not only laugh-out-loud funny but demonstrate the importance of queer representation and how far we've come since the 90s and early 2000s. From stalking paparazzi photos for some hint of queerness then to now holding books and watching tv shows and movies full of queer characters and stories. In this episode, we talk about Taylor Swift, masturbation, and other queer millennial experiences. Jill is a delight and we can't wait for everyone to read her book and love it as much as we did! You can find Jill on Instagram at @jillgutowitz, on Twitter at @jillboard, and at her website: https://www.jillgutowitz.com/ If you want to buy Kit's book or the books we mentioned - consider buying them from our bookshop.org link @ https://bookshop.org/shop/thebookstagays - this is a way to support indie bookstores AND the show (we receive a very small kickback if you purchase through our affiliate link). As always, you can find us on Instagram and Twitter @thebookstagays, and on our own accounts @thebookadvocate and @staxsonstaxs Cheers Queers! Be gay, read books! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thebookstagays/support

Described as a “queer social media pioneer,” Jill Gutowitz has shifted from publishing her thoughts on Twitter to a new book of her essays titled "Girls Can Kiss Now." On this week's Marginalia, Gutowitz describes the collection and who might benefit from reading it.

We're back and in honor of August sipping away like a bottle of wine, it's time to reflect on Folklore. We're doing a track-by-track analysis, theorizing on the line between fiction and reality in the Taylorverse, discussing Taylor's ability to draw a universal feeling from a wildly niche vignette, and generally deep diving left & right. Buckle in, babies. Sidebars this week: Facebook Marketplace finds, “you'll never get away from the sound of the woman who loves you,” Madeline's pre-Folklore connection to Holiday House, Taylor Swift's real estate investments, Hannah turning into a snob about vinyl, Nicole Kidman's accents and wigs, is Jack Antonoff weird??, Strawberry Wine by Deanna Carter, Sally Rooney and Brandy Jensen in conversation with Illicit Affairs, Jill Gutowitz predicting Taylor's bear suit Instagram, and Taylor's cheugiest lyrics.

Time Magazine editor/author Sam Lansky, New Yorker journalist Jill Gutowitz and So Random! star Matthew Scott Montgomery join Arden to break down Jason Mesnick's season of The Bachelor! Early Aughts fashion! Hula Hoops! Rosie! - Arden realizes the early 2000's were a TERRIBLE time for fashion! - Sam wants a glass balcony to sob on as he lives his best life as a dead pigeon in a paper bag! - Jill wants french tip square nails to come back! - Matthew tells us about General Mills! All that plus........TWEET OF THE WEEK! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://news.iheart.com/podcast-advertisers

Guest: Author of "Oscars Nominations Prove We are Living in a Different Reality Than Men" Jill Gutowitz joins Sex Positivity: Caged Jock  Body Positivity with Ryan Sheldon

Writer and humorist Jill Gutowitz joins Matt and Dave to discuss the ‘step on me’ energy of Big Little Lies, getting emotional after a Wild Rose viewing, and pushing past the reductive nature of dating apps. Plus, reconciling different takes on Taylor Swift with her girlfriend, re-teaching herself how to get excited about being in a relationship, and powering through panic attacks at 30,000 feet.  

This week Erin Ryan and Alyssa Mastromonaco frame a whole discussion on white suburban women voters in terms of Bachelor in Paradise. It's a wild ride! Then, writer Jill Gutowitz joins in-studio along with Tien Tran and Kiran Deol to discuss what it means to have idols. Then, as always, the hills we'll die on. 

Ira and Louis are joined by guest co-host Jill Gutowitz to discuss Quentin Tarantino’s Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Lil Nas X’s breaking the Billboard charts, Andy Cohen’s messy interview with Tituss Burgess, shirtless joggers, and where lesbians hang out in Los Angeles. Plus, Margaret Cho joins to talk about her history doing stand-up and Aaron Spelling TV shows.

Welcome to Popaganda's HEAT season! In the first episode, host Carmen Rios looks back on the impact of the Spice Girls as they enter into their reunion tour. 20 years after girl power became a global phenomena, she investigates the legacy of the band in pop culture and the messages they impressed on an entire generation --  talking to feminist writers Jill Gutowitz and Sady Doyle about the promise of girl power and re-watching Spice World with comedian Brittani Nichols in order to wade back into the debate that rages on today about marketplace feminism and fauxpowerment.

On this week's episode, we're joined by Nylon and Glamour writer Jill Gutowitz to talk about Ariana Grande's iconic new music video, meeting Taylor, and the song "Bad Blood."

We're drafting pop stars, but we can only take one from each country! It's the Good Vibes Gang, plus the wonderful writer Jill Gutowitz! Check it out! This episode of All Fantasy Everything is brought to you by hims. Try hims for a month today for just $5 by going to forhims.com/allfantasy5.

This is the story of a girl, actually two girls (Miel and writer Jill Gutowitz – @jillboard) and a boy (Demi), revisiting the early 00s one hit wonder "Absolutely" by Nine Days, stopping to discuss farting while peeing and the HBO original series Entourage along the way.UNPUNCHABLE JAMS: "Power" by Little Mix, "Gloria" by Laura Branigan, and "Sprawl II (Mountains Beyond Mountains)" by Arcade Fire.Thank you to Audible for sponsoring this episode!

This week we're joined by writer Jill Gutowitz to discuss bad taste, Taylor's Time magazine cover, and the song "Delicate."

Our very own Jill Gutowitz got the chance to chat backstage at the Grammy's with Selena Gomez. They talked "Revival," acting in "The Big Short" and being a woman in the music industry. #WWObackstage #GRAMMYs

Our very own Jill Gutowitz got the chance to chat backstage at the Grammy's with Selena Gomez. They talked "Revival," acting in "The Big Short" and being a woman in the music industry. #WWObackstage #GRAMMYs