Podcasts about Mamma Mia

We would love to hear from you. Send us your thoughts or suggestions. Nikki DeLoach heads to the Greek island of Corfu, co-inherits a property with a stranger, and discovers the only way to finalize it is to marry him. We break down whether The Greek Aisle pulls off a premise that has no business working as well as it does. And yes, we have strong opinions about that final kiss.•       The moment a cat named Cassandra walks on screen and the fake-marriage premise suddenly has a genuine sense of humor•       The electricity bill collector scene and why Andrea had to rewind to catch the punchline•       Why Nikki DeLoach and Apostolis Totsikas somehow save all their chemistry for one final kiss in the canal, and whether that's enough•       The dinner party scene where he tells the detective the truth anyway, and why that one choice made this movie different from most Hallmark films this year•       Why the mom earned our character corner over every other performance in The Greek Aisle, and what separates her from every annoying matchmaking parent Hallmark has ever given us•       Eric's 3.5-star verdict, Andrea's push toward 4, and whether Garage Sale Mysteries is actually coming backChapters0:00 - Welcome to Greece: Garage Sale Mysteries Might Be Coming Back4:30 - Christmas in July and the December Bride Debate8:00 - The Greek Aisle: Georgia, Corfu, and a Fake Marriage13:00 - The Cat Named Cassandra, the Cricket Match, and the Canal Kiss18:00 - Character Corner: The Mom Wins It21:00 - What to Watch: Murder She Wrote, Mamma Mia, and the Mallorca Files23:30 - Eric Plans a European Trip (the Movie Made Him Do It)Which Hallmark fake-marriage movie actually got the on-screen chemistry right? Drop your pick in the comments below.New episodes every week. Subscribe and hit the bell so you never miss a Hallmark deep dive.

This week, Eric and Josh are joined by Daimion to talk about (and not talk about) the upcoming Saturday Night Sinema! They also discuss: hosting comic con panels, J & E Grocery, Monster Movie Matinee, Elvira, Attack of the Killer B's, extended TV cuts of movies, video store era pros & cons, 1980s cable TV Saturday morning cartoons, Backrooms, Obsession, Masters of the Universe 1987 & 2026, Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter, Mamma Mia, and more! Plus, they mention the movies screening the week of Friday June 12 - Thursday June 18: The Art of Adventure, Ichi The Killer, Saturday Night Sinema, Captains of the Clouds, and Gazelle! They neglect to mention Calorie, and Mean Streets, which were last minute bookings after the podcast recorded. You can always check up to date listings at mayfairtheatre.ca.

How to Direct A-List Talent: Ol Parker on Rom-Coms, Rejection & Set Etiquette How do you maintain your creative voice while directing some of the biggest movie stars on the planet? This week, Giles Alderson and Dom Lenoir sit down with Hollywood hitmaker Ol Parker to unpack the business of making audiences feel good. Known for writing and directing global smashes like Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again, The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel, and Ticket to Paradise, Ol joins host Giles Alderson to discuss his latest feature film, the Netflix R-rated corporate comedy Office Romance, starring Jennifer Lopez, Brett Goldstein, and a massive ensemble of comedy heavyweights. Ol delivers a masterclass in longevity, collaboration, and set management. He opens up about the unique challenge of directing a script written by his lead actors, how to balance hard-R comedy with touching narrative beats, and why a director's job is often about listening to the experts around them.

Today we are rehashing Younger Season 5, Episode 6: "Sex, Liza and Rock & Roll." Join us as we discuss an adventure to Shelter Island to fetch an 80s rockstar's memoir, Enzo's living situation surprising Diana at every turn, Maggie living her best life at the Whitney Biennial, Kelsey being torn between Jake and Zane, and so much more!

Uh oh! I ran into a guy I used to hook up with! This episode covers my harrowing tale. Hookup nuances, why it's important to know what you want in the bedroom, speaking up for yourself, embarrassing first dates, why dating in LA is the worst, UTIs, safe sex, and more. We also nibble on Mamma Mia, Christine Baranski, 2D animation, sisters, ai, Disney, etc.   Trigger warning: SA #datingadviceforwomen #relationshipadvice #girlspodcast #girltalkpodcast #firstdatefail #firstdate #podcastforwomen #femalecomedy #femalepodcast #bedroomtips 

De två författarna är i Gamla stans bokhandel och firar sina böcker med en dubbelrelase. Här får ni höra allt om hur böckerna kom till, Cillas recept på hur man skriver en redig deckare, som hennes nya bok Eksjömorden, och vad Malin tyckte var svårast i skrivprocessen fram till färdig feelgoodroman, som hennes nya Min sämsta väninna. Det blir kluriga frågor från gäster och Malins förläggare Terese och kanske kanske bjuder de två författarna på (kloka) svar. Lyssna, så får ni veta. I vanlig ordning är det ett fartfylld avsnitt i podden för dig som gillar berättelser - och livet bakom dem. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

La Banda Escuela de Beniaján, compuesta actualmente por unos 60 músicos de edades diversas que van desde los 9 años hasta alumnos adultos jubilados, se presenta este domingo 7 de junio a las 12:00 en el Auditorio Víctor Villegas de Murcia. Bajo el lema "Un viaje inolvidable", el director David Arce Ruiz ha diseñado un programa que recorre América con la obra Liberty, Francia a través de la región de Borgoña y Grecia con piezas de Franco Cesarini, finalizando con una sorpresa basada en el musical Mamma Mia interpretada por la clarinetista y actriz Ángela Avera. Este evento, que comparten con la Banda Escuela de Alcantarilla dentro del ciclo de bandas juveniles, sirve como colofón a un curso intenso antes de que la agrupación inicie sus vacaciones tras una convivencia en San Pedro del Pinatar.

Join Amanda, Geoff, and Ben as we watch Mamma Mia! We give some background on the movie, rate it out of 5 stars and discuss what we thought! This week also features our thoughts on the 2026 Tony Nominations and who we think will win. Thank you for listening! We'll be back next week to review The Town so be sure to watch along with us. Follow us on our social channels @you_havent_seen_that You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Our guest today is the brilliant David Harris, who is currently commanding the stage as The Duke in  Moulin Rouge! On Broadway. Originally from Australia, David has built an impressive career playing some of musical theatre's most iconic leading roles. His extensive resume includes Miss Saigon, Wicked, Mamma Mia and Legally Blonde just to name a few, and it was a joy to hear him reflect on his 20+ years in the industry. Join us as we talk all about his journey from dropping out of college and moving to Sydney to pursue acting, to then becoming one of the most acclaimed leading men of his generation. We also talk about what inspired his move from Australia to New York at the age of 39, what it's been like navigating life here, and of course, his incredible performance in one of my favorite musicals, Moulin Rouge. ______ Follow David on Instagram: @davidharrisoz Follow Goodversations on Instagram: @goodversations ______ If you enjoyed this episode, please share it on your social media stories! In this way, more people will get to hear David's thoughts on the industry. Be sure to follow us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts for a fresh batch of weekly episodes, featuring the stars of Chicago, Mean Girls and more.

In this week's LuxeGen Group Chat, the girls are diving into everything from celebrity wedding drama to the FIFA World Cup halftime show line-up – and it's chaotic in the best way. From debating Harry and Zoë's guest list situation to seriously considering applying to be Shakira's back-up dancers, this episode has it all.The team also break down ‘Mamma Mia! The Party' at the O2, share their current fashion favourites from Mango, Zara, ASOS and Bershka, and discuss the TV series everyone should be watching if you're missing ‘The Summer I Turned Pretty'.Plus, there's a deep dive into David Beckham officially becoming the UK's first billionaire sportsman, Stormzy producing an Ian Wright biopic, BTS fans potentially taking over the World Cup and why celebrity production companies are becoming the new business power move.Expect pop culture chaos, fashion favourites, football debates, iconic impressions and plenty of group chat energy throughout.Subscribe for new episodes every week.PANELPoppy Edmonds | @poppyedmondss | https://www.instagram.com/poppyedmondss/ Dr Martens Arcadia Loafers | https://go.shopmy.us/p-60692466 Next Bleach Blue Denim Shirt | https://go.shopmy.us/p-60692879 Anna Aitken | @annalouiseaitken | https://www.instagram.com/annalouiseaitken/ H&M Knee High Boots | https://go.shopmy.us/p-60692960 ASOS ARRANGE High Neck Leather Curved Top | https://go.shopmy.us/p-60693316 Lola Lawlor | @lolalawlor | https://www.instagram.com/lolalawlor/?hl=en-gb Mango Asymmetrical Cape (Similar) | https://go.shopmy.us/p-60693472 Adidas Gazelle Indoor Shoes | https://go.shopmy.us/p-60693654 

The conversation continues at Staff Carpet with a preview of the Summer Splash Sale; Mary Kate Smith, Amanda Otto and Alicia Huntley preview this weekend's opening of The Muni season with "Mamma Mia"; and John Staff and Jack Robertson join in some baseball memories. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's four years since ABBA Voyage premiered (with all four members in attendance) and the pioneering show is still going as strong as ever. To celebrate we thought it was about time for another ABBA episode, so we're starting the 50th anniversary celebrations of the Arrival album a little early. This is the collection that not only features the huge singles Dancing Queen, Money, Money, Money, and Knowing Me, Knowing You, but also Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again favourites Why Did It Have To Be Me? and My Love, My Life, as well as some killer album tracks.Let us know your thoughts on the episode and the album in the comments on Spotify, or on Instagram @trackbytrackukAnd when you've done with this one, check out our episodes on Ring Ring, Voulez-Vous, Super Trouper (feat. Steps, Little Boots, Bright Light Bright Light, Björn Again and the cast of Mamma Mia!), The Visitors and Voyage. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Join Amanda, Geoff, and Ben as we discuss the current TV and movies that we've been watching in the month of May. From Euphoria to Hacks, and Devil Wears Prada 2, we cover a bit of everything.Thank you for listening! We'll be back next week to review Mamma Mia! so be sure to watch along with us. Follow us on our social channels @you_havent_seen_that You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Martha Banta has returned to the Adirondack Theatre Festival. Martha was ATF's founding Artistic Director for its first 13 seasons, where she directed numerous premieres that went on to be produced in New York City and across the country.She directed the first of many ATF productions in an empty Woolworth's storefront on Glen Street and later helped spearhead its transformation into the Wood Theater. Most recently, Martha directed Mamma Mia! for its return to Broadway and the national tour.

Callum Scott Howells joins Captain Alan onboard Life's a Beach for one of the funniest flights yet. From filming Madfabulous to spotting Björn Ulvaeus in the Maldives gym, disastrous holiday fashion, Welsh pride, celebrity encounters, and how Alan might be part of Mamma Mia! 3… this episode goes everywhere.There's also Rita the dog making an appearance, stories from Port Talbot to Chile, and one unhinged comparison between Gemma Collins and ABBA. Buckle up! 00:00 Alan compares Gemma Collins to Björn from ABBA00:20 Welcome aboard: Callum Scott Howells joins the flight00:50 Claire's Accessories nostalgia01:13 Alan explains Athena posters… badly02:26 Dog walking, smart watches & fitness chat03:15 Alan's fatberg nightmare05:31 Callum on starring in Madfabulous07:20 Costume changes & filming in Anglesey08:35 Welsh place names and pronunciation disasters11:10 Why Port Talbot produces acting legends13:10 Rita the dog crashes the recording15:40 Was Callum really in Chile?16:45 Celebrity encounters on holiday19:30 Spotting Björn from ABBA in the Maldives21:10 Alan's campaign to be in Mamma Mia 322:25 If your luggage could talk…23:15 Callum's travel bucket list24:50 Holiday fashion disasters28:10 Airline etiquette & terrible plane food30:45 Quick-fire travel questions31:50 Emotional baggage carousel#LifesABeach #AlanCarr #CallumScottHowells #ABBA #BjornUlvaeus #Madfabulous #TravelPodcast #ComedyPodcast #WelshActors #CelebrityStories #MammaMia #TravelStories Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I chat with Dr. Kristin Stultz Pressley, a Broadway historian and lecturer and the co-host of the Dr. Broadway Podcast. We talk about her new book - Jukebox Musicals: Crazy for You to MJ the Musical (Essential Musicals). The book explores a style of show that's dominated Broadway for the better part of two decades. Through a chronological look at the development of long-running hits, like Mamma Mia! and Jersey Boys, this book traces the Jukebox Musical from when it was an exception on Broadway to when it became the rule. Dr. Pressley was a previous guest on the podcast, when we discussed her first book, I Can't Give You Anything but Love, Baby: Dorothy Fields and Her Life in the American Musical Theater, which was published in 2021.

Daniel Krikler is starring as Richard in the world premiere of Redcliffe at the Southwark Playhouse.Written by Jordan Luke Gage, this new musical is based on the true story of William Critchard and Richard Arnold in 18th-century Bristol. It follows the dangerous, forbidden passion between a man of humble beginnings and a visiting sailor as they navigate a world of intense persecution.Daniel's early credits include Charlie in Loserville (Garrick Theatre & West Yorkshire Playhouse), Rory in Bare: A Pop Opera (Union Theatre), Eddie in Mamma Mia! (Novello Theatre) and Jersey Boys (UK Tour). He then returned to drama school to do an MA at Central School of Speech and Drama, and forged a hugely diverse career with his credits including: Arthur in Pink Mist (Bristol Old Vic/UK Tour), Dan in Homos, Or Everyone In America (Finborough Theatre), Keith Douglas in Unicorns, Almost (Bristol Old Vic), Understudy: Joe, Roland & Fred in Present Laughter (The Old Vic), Malcolm/Witch in Macbeth (Guildford Shakespeare Company), Understudy: Leo in 4000 Miles (The Old Vic), Charlemagne in Pippin (Charing Cross Theatre), Ensemble in The Normal Heart (National Theatre), Martin McGough in Fighting Irish (Belgrade Theatre), Caliban in The Tempest (Guildford Shakespeare Company), Mr Lacy in The Secret Life of Bees (Almeida Theatre), Max Vandenberg in The Book Thief (Leicester Curve) and Dillon Evans in The Motive and The Cue (National Theatre Productions).Daniel's most recent work includes: Fedya Dolokhov in Natatsha, Pierre & The Great Comet (Donmar Warehouse), Martin in Austenland (Savoy Theatre), Perchik in Fiddler on the Roof (Regents Park Open Air / Barbican), Peter Pan in Wendy and Peter Pan (Barbican / RSC) and Man in All Is But Fantasy (RSC).Redcliffe runs at the Southwark Playhouse Borough 22nd May – 4th July. Visit www.southwarkplayhouse.co.uk for info and tickets. This podcast is hosted by Andrew Tomlins @AndrewTomlins32 Thanks for listening! Email: andrew@westendframe.co.uk Visit westendframe.co.uk for more info about our podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Send us Fan MailOn this Mother's Day, Pastor Joshua takes inspiration from mothers and from the ABBA-inspired musical, Mamma Mia, to talk about strength, positivity, and passion for life.

This episode is sponsored by Focusaur — an AI-powered focus console built for deep work and daily habits. If your phone keeps pulling you away from your best work, Focusaur creates the physical friction that gives you your focus back. They're in the final days of their Kickstarter campaign. Visit mikevardy.com/focusaur to learn more.Patrick Rhone is back, and so is PM Talks — the monthly series where Patrick and I take our time with one idea and actually see where it goes. This is Season 3, Episode 5, and Patrick has just returned from a trip to Greece with his family — a trip built around anniversary celebrations, Mamma Mia filming locations, and the kind of serendipitous moments that only happen when you're open enough to notice them. It was a perfect setup for the conversation that followed.Because the thread running through everything we talked about — travel, family dynamics, technological change, self-judgment, and the way small kindnesses move through the world — turned out to be the same one: grace. Grace is also one of the principles at the heart of my upcoming book, Productiveness, which made this one feel especially fitting to sit with. If you've been wondering what that book is actually about, this episode gives you a meaningful glimpse.Six Discussion Points:Grace starts with goodwill — not as a feeling, but as a practice. We dig into what it actually means to operate with grace day to day, and why it takes more intention than most people give it credit for.Travel is one of the best teachers of grace around. From adjusting to late dinner culture in Greece and Portugal to ordering a chicken by pointing at the ones still running around a yard in the Philippines, travel asks you to meet the unfamiliar with openness rather than resistance.Balancing everyone's needs on Patrick's Greece trip required grace in a very real, logistical way — from his daughter's Mamma Mia pilgrimage to his and his wife's 20th anniversary. The fact that everyone left feeling like the trip was complete says a lot about how that went.I share a real-time example of reacting instead of responding — a strongly-worded email, a refund request, and some after-the-fact digging that made me feel briefly foolish before I decided to give myself some grace about the whole thing.We get into grace and cancel culture, and the difference between holding someone accountable and refusing them any room to grow or change. It is okay to change your mind. In fact, it might be one of the most graceful things a person can do.Small acts of grace echo further than you think. Patrick's daughter writing thoughtful notes to the colleges she's declining. Paying for a stranger's coffee without mentioning it. You don't know what someone is carrying, which is exactly why grace doesn't need full information to operate.Three Connection PointsPatrick Rhone's website — the best place to start to find everything Patrick has going on.Productiveness — my upcoming book, where grace appears as one of its core principles.New to the show? I've been putting out solo episodes of A Productive Conversation as well — here's one right here. You can also find them in your podcast app of choice.Patrick and I covered a lot of ground this month, and I think that's because grace is one of those ideas that shows up everywhere once you start looking for it. Whether you're navigating a foreign dinner schedule, giving someone the benefit of the doubt, or just deciding not to beat yourself up over a to-do list that didn't get finished — grace is the practice underneath all of it. We'll be back next month for another round of PM Talks, and in the meantime, I hope this one gives you something worth sitting with.

En hel dag ensam på hotell kan göra vad som helst med en människa, och i det här avsnittet blir det allt från Mamma Mia-missförstånd till retro Speedos och Pamela Anderson-mål inför sommaren. Plus historien om spritapelsinen i Globen som format ett helt barndomsminne. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Devil Wears Prada is an American metalcore band from Dayton, Ohio, formed in 2005. They derived their band name from the novel of the same title.[2] At one time known as a Christian metalcore band, it consists of members Mike Hr-oh my bad I thought Isaac and Olivia did a whole episode talking about one of the most influential Christcore bands to ever hit the scene. Sorry about that. This one's about the new movie with Princess Mia and that one actress who played Mamma Mia.(Walter wrote this. I'm back now)

So who boycotted and who just didn’t get invited? Yes, we’re rounding out the Met Gala gossip with a rundown of protests (SJP?), basic-b*tch heartbreak (Hugh & Sutton) and bathroom selfies (alllll the hot ones). VOTE FOR US: Help Out Loud win the People’s Choice category of the Australian Audio Awards. Find the link to vote RIGHT HERE. Plus, who actually won in the finally-finished court battle of Lively vs Baldoni vs Lively? And what James Valentine’s Year Of Living Gratefully taught us about living (and dying) well. And, Cameron Diaz is a mum again at 53 and no-one is calling it a 'miracle!' Have we turned a page on older parents’ double standards? 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Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -AUTO GENERATED TRANSCRIPT: Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Mamma Mia out Loud. It's what women are actually talking about on Wednesday, sixth of May. I'm Holly Wainwright and the first thing I'm going to do, the first order of business, very simple out louder is if you love your show, please vote for us in the upcoming Australian Audio Awards as a People's Choice category. It's really straightforward. We're going to put a link in the show notes, We're probably going to put it on social We're going to put it everywhere. We would love your support to help us get there. That is the end of my manifesto for the day. Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I just would like to say as a lazy girl that there are all these things to fill out. Speaker 3: You only have to fill us out. Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to do everything is just tick Mama Mia out Loud. Speaker 3: So important for the lazy girls out there, and as as a bossy girl, I just concur with Holly. I know you can make that ask of people, and I think that's a great step towards greet our self assertive. Speaker 1: I'm growing, I'm growing, Amelia Growing. I'm Amelia Lester and I'm Claire Stephen and here's what's made our agenda for today. So now that it's all over and many damning text messages scatter the ruins of what was the biggest celebrity story for a couple of years, Just who did win in the whole? Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni court case drama. Speaker 3: Plus Cameron Diaz is a mother again at fifty three, and Holly has some thoughts. Speaker 2: And veteran broadcaster James Valentine filmed the last year of his life for the ABC, and between a living wake and his openness around voluntary assisted dying, he's opened a conversation around what it means to die a good death. Speaker 1: But first, Amelia Lester, the Mecgala. Speaker 3: Did it feel different this year? A lot of people said that it did. Amy Odell, a fashion writer, wrote in her background newsletter that the Metgala was all money, no soul, and she wasn't alone in this criticism. Basically, people are saying that because Jeff Bezos and his wife Lauren Sanchez Bezos sponsored the event, it just started to feel a little craven, a little gross, and less fun than it used to be. So there were a lot of protests in New York. In the lead up to the event, they were all centered around Amazon's labor practices, its environmental damage. And then there are those who say, no, that's not true. The mech color's always been about rich people giving their money towards a good cause, which is the Metropolitan Museum's Costume Institute. And look, they did raise a lot of money on Monday night. The Bezos has bought the event for about ten million dollars, but then the event itself raised about forty one million. This is US dollars, which is a lot for this event. It's apparently kind of record breaking. So are we just complaining about nothing, Holly? Do you feel like celebrities stayed away? Did they agree that this was a sort of off event this year? Speaker 1: So I'm going to give you a list of the celebrities who people say boycotted, because none of the people so far who everyone is saying has boycott had actually verbalized that they were boycott. Speaker 3: Well, we are boycotted, which we just had to take a stand because. Speaker 1: I do feel a little bit like what soul when you said it's all money those salt like, I do feel a bit that I don't think this is the first year. It has been pointed out in the culture, particularly since trump Ism and all those things, that this feels very hunger games. Yes, yes, and I know although there's a more direct link here, you know, with the Bezos is buying it. I do feel like Jeff sort of bought it for Lauren as a gift, which is a nice gift. Nice, but it feels more avert. So anyway, let's look at this because when I was watching it on Tuesday and then I did a subscriber episode with me as straight afterwards, I was like, well, all the celebrities are there, like Beyonce's there. All the famous people I was expecting to be there were there. Speaker 2: Well, actually a lot of famous feom we didn't expect to be there were there. Speaker 1: Yeah. And then it was pointed out to me who was not Billie Eilish. Now that tracks because she doesn't like billionaires, and she remembers she gave a speech a while ago where she said, you lot give more of your money away. So I don't think she would have been either welcome or willing to go, because Jeff might have worried that she was going to shake him down in the bathroom to share more of his money. Zoe Saldana, she is somebody who is usually there. She was not there. She is almost as rich as the billionaires. She is an unbelievably well paid actress because of her Marvel and Avatar connections. So Zoe's at home count of dollars. Olivia Rodrigo that tracks too. She is political, That would not be surprising. She's in the middle of an album promo, so you might have usually expected her to be there. Lady Gaga an interesting one because she could have been expected to be there because she's in The Devil Wears prior of Too and the rest of the Well. Meryl wasn't there, but Meryl never goes, so that's not surprising. But Anne Hath the way Emily Blunt Stanley Tucci were all there. Speaker 2: Stanley Tucci with Emily blount sister, it's always fun. Speaker 1: So maybe Gaga, but also she's kind of said lately that she's going to focus on promoting things she wants to promote rather than just being around. Lewis Hamilton come on, like he's literally dating Kim Kardashian, who's extremely bezos adjacent. I don't think that was a political. Speaker 3: Let's get to the big guns. Some were missing, right, some who we might have realized. Sarah Jessica Parker. Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Sarah Jessica I reckon. That is probably I would say that's almost definitely a boycott. But she went to support Anna at a dinner, but she didn't. Speaker 3: Go to the There was a dinner on the weekend before the gala. It probably would have been more fun. Speaker 1: Anyways, she said anything, No, she hasn't, but she I think she was in support of the New New York mayor. Right, And obviously he didn't go, but then I wouldn't have expected him to go, and he did post about it. They posted a series of let's sell a the real heroes of fashion and you know, celebrated workers behind the scenes and particular designers and things. So yes, so Sarah Jessica Parker I reckon could be a boycott. But then they're saying, you know, j Lo, I don't think Jalo was boycotting. I just think she's tired. Speaker 3: Harry Styles. Speaker 1: Harry Styles is in the middle of record of rehearsing for his tour. He's in a studio in bethnal Green running through it. Not that I've been stalking him. Justin Bieber, he's just done Coachella. Boy needs to lie down. Miley Taylor Swift, she never goes, and I don't think she's so. I think that some of the boycott cots are not boy I. Speaker 3: Think that's right. But it's interesting that some of the tech billionaires it clearly got to them a little bit. So it's interesting that Jeff did not walk the red carpet with Lauren. That's very unusual. They do everything together. We've learned this from various pieces about them and Lauren's dress being very boring. Do we think that was intentional. Speaker 1: A little bit understated for Lauren, Yeah, but I think it was had a very specific art reference. It was the same dress as someone called Madame X and it's like scandalous women. Speaker 3: Yep. It's interesting though, because Jeff did walk the carpet in twenty thirteen when Amazon sponsored the event. There was no outrage back then when Amazon sponsored the event and he walked with Mackenzie then Mackenzie Bezos his wife at the time. Mark Zuckerberg also made his Met Gala debut with his wife, Priscilla Chan, and they also didn't walk the red carpet, which I thought was interesting because it's kind of like, well, you want to be at the glamorous event, but you don't want the attention of being there. Speaker 1: Do you think they might have been encouraged not to. Speaker 3: I don't think anyone encourages Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos to do anything would have worked exactly. But there were some tech willionaires who did walk the carpet. Google founder Sergei Brinn. He showed up on the red carpet with his girlfriend. Her name is Gaylyn Gilbert Soto. The New York Times describes her as a con conservative gut health influencer. Speaker 1: That is one of the six job title Claire. Speaker 3: Do you think that there's something inherently conservative about gut health? Speaker 2: Yeah, because gut health is very don't take antibiotics and don't take antibiotics is very That's what it's. Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which used to be a sort of crunchy hippie vibe, but these days has come back around it. Speaker 3: I thought it was just you know, drink your com your chart, but no, it means it can. Speaker 2: Be very I feel like there's it's a short road from like gut health gut health to to anti vacs. Don't ever give your children antibiotics with my sour crow. Speaker 3: And of course I'm AROUNDA was there. I just have to add she was there with Snapchat founder Evanstein on the carpet, of course. Speaker 1: Possibly the biggest gun that I haven't mentioned though, is Zendaya. She does always go. Usually she didn't go, and that read like a boycott. And some people are saying, if your boycotting, say you're boycotting. I don't think so necessarily. You don't want to necessarily make everything about your politics. But I just have one question. I think that big charity galas of all types have always been, have always reflected the moment therein and they've always been a path to accessing status in a particular society. Watch the Gilded Age, It's all about that. Speaker 3: And Nixon notably said that she thought it was great that the mayor didn't go. Speaker 1: Yes, but like you know, you're reflecting the time. So you're going a big gala ball is the way you get all the fancy people together. This being a tech bro billionaire ball is very reflective of the moment we're living in, right, So is it surprising in any way in the nineteen eighties New York society. It was all about glitz and flash and Donald Trump, and now we're like again, I don't know. I kind of feel like, what did we expect to happen? Speaker 3: No, that's right, But I think that the group that people are most angry at it's not the people who went in their pretty dresses. It's not the people who didn't go and stay quiet about it. It's the people who went but then tried to have their cake and eat it too. See. Speaker 2: I'm not as frustrated about this because Sarah Paulson is getting a hole at a crap because she wore a dress that then and then had a blindfold that was a dollar bill, and it was people like it's making a statement about about like eating the rich. Speaker 3: Well, she herself said that it was a statement about the one. Speaker 2: Besides yes, and and I thought that was like a far swing. But the dress is actually called like the one percent by the artist, the designer who designed it, and the mask was called blinded by Money, and it was a statement on greed and corruption that comes with extreme power. I think it's a little bit unfair to look at her and say, well, you've got a net worth of twelve million dollars at which how does anyone calculate anyone's net worth on the internet? But you have a net worth of that you're at this event, how dare you then make a protest when it's like, well, isn't that exactly how how you do it? Speaker 3: Don't you go in? And well, people do have a history of using that platform. So Alexandra Ocazio Cortez, who is a Democratic congresswoman from New York, famously wore a dress on the Megala red carpet a couple of years ago which said tax the rich. But people actually have the same criticism for her. To your point, Holly, the met Gala in some corners has always been seen as a kind of repulsive show of excess and decadence, and she got a lot of aoc got a lot of flak for even attending the event back then, reading the canapasey while saying. Speaker 1: You guys are discussing while Charlie free directions. Speaker 2: But if you're not there, you don't have a microphone to say anything about the event, do you know? Well, I guess you do. I guess like Vende could opposed to something on Instagram. Speaker 3: If you want Zendaya not going definitely took the air out of the room when that announcement came out, And I guess it wasn't an announcement so much as a news update. Everyone kind of went, that's big. When Zendeia's not there, it's big. Speaker 2: Because she's always one of the coolest on the carpet. Does something really original, remember that, like bloody light up dress and she. Speaker 3: Oh, but there was a bathroom selfie. Some things always stay the same, right, and you saw this by Yes, it's always an iconic bathroom selfie. It's always the thing you want to look for. And there was an amazing one that had you know, the Margo Robbie all the people in it. But one of the things that was most striking about that And so I saw that in the wild last night and I was like, why is there an exceptionally beautiful woman in the middle of that who is wearing a quarter zip sweatshirt? I was like, was she at that party? Speaker 1: And then it's having a lot of headlines today because she is actually a very famous model. Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually love the story behind this. Her name is Bavitha Mandava and she that what she wore was a quarterzip jumper essentially and what looked like jeans. It turns out they weren't just any jeans. The jeans were made with silk muslin and had a blue denim effect. My jeans today have a blue denim effect. And it's a very important iconic look because she opened Chanell's show in December, which was on the New York City Subway, wearing essentially that outfit, and the fashion world lost their mind. That show was like considered extremely groundbreaking, and she was the first Indian model to open a Chanel show and she is now the first South Asian ambassador for Chanel. And incidentally, did you notice that Margot Robbie, who was also Chanel ambassador, It was right next to her in that photo. So Chanell must have been just so happy about the whole thing. Speaker 1: I know, but it just she just looked so out of place. Speaker 3: But that's what made it so good. Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was like wandered into the shop. But she also read all about it and I was amazing. Yet she didn't have to have a bubble machine boobs. Speaker 3: And then that look that she wore on the Chanel catwalk was actually a nod in turn to how she was discovered. I love this so much. She was a grad student m YU and she was discovered on the New York City subway waiting for a train. One would imagine probably wearing a similar outfit to the one she is now wearing in a much more fabulous incarnation at the metgala. Speaker 1: But you were obsessed with another red carpet walk. Speaker 2: Yes, because I am a basic bitch. If, like I swear, if there was like a thermometer for like, what's what does the basic bitch think about anything that's happening in the world right now? It comes over me and it's like bing bing bing bing bing because I saw the red carpet photos of Hugh Jackman in Suton Foster and I think I was sitting opposite you and Holly and I. Speaker 3: Said, oh oh, was like I don't and I'm like, howm my. Speaker 1: Here has it been? Speaker 3: Now? Not that many at least well he was. Speaker 2: Hugh Jackman was on the Red carpet with Debory Furnace in twenty twenty three. Speaker 3: My group chats are very divided on this. Some love the two of them together and some are talking about deb Prowley. Speaker 1: Do you have to not debut your relationship after a divorce five years, ten years? What do we want? Speaker 2: There are no rules, but I am allowed to go oh poor deb Oh, no, I hate that I am allowed. And then the tabloids, because again I'm a basic bitch. The tabloids were like, hey, basic bitches, We've made up a story for you. So there are sources in Inverata commas who say that Debrale Furnace was a huge fan of the event and the decision to bring Sutton Foster was a final blow to deb And what I didn't realize when I went really deep on this was some Foster's wearing a ring, like they think that you proposed in January and they think they're going to have some trend in your wedding. Speaker 1: And is that all are not allowed? He's not allowed to marry again, not ever, not ever. Speaker 3: I I don't know about that. Speaker 1: How do you know that, Deborah Lee Furness. This is what I don't like about this narrative is it victimizes a woman who maybe is totally done with that, you know what I mean. She obviously she made up some statements that made it clear she was not happy when that relationship broke down, But again three years ago, so now she might be living her absolute best life. Thank god I don't have to go to the met gala with that guy. Speaker 3: She disagrees politically too. We don't know anything about it, like she was kind of famously a conservative political voice because he is the godparent of Rupert Murdock and Wendy Dang's children. Also, he's very close with Avanka Trump. So no one was surprised to see Hugh at the slightly maga codd metgala. Speaker 1: Oh wow, he's unfair, And I know no one's crying for the celebrities, but I think it's unfair to brand everybody who was at that red carpet as maga. Speaker 3: Co Oh no, no, no, I did too, But I just I'm saying that he's not exactly Alexandra Orcasio Cortez. No one would be expecting him to make a big political statement about the taxing the rich. No, he's very like to promote. Speaker 1: In a moment, what the heck was all that Baldoni Lively business about? If we've both basically ended with nobody winning and no money changing hands. So moments before one Blake Lively swept onto the met gala carpet looking a bit like Cinderella, very trademark minus the bluebird. She didn't happen. She always said exactly body, She's pretty good all that stuff. But moments before that, a statement dropped into the inboxes of major press outlets, including People, New York Times and so on, and it read the end product the movie. It ends with Us is a source of pride to all of us who worked to bring it to life. And with no context, Everyone's like, why are we reading this? Raising awareness and making a meaningful impact in the lives of domestic violence survivors and all survivors is a goal that we stand behind. It becomes clear this is a joint statement from Blake Lively's team and Justin Baldoni's team about the court case we've all been obsessed about for years. We acknowledge the process, presented challenges, did it. Speaker 3: Recollections and recognized concerns raised by mes Lively deserved to be heard. Speaker 1: We remain firmly committed to workplaces free of improprieties and unproductive environments. This is one of those statements that so many lawyers were involved in drafting that it. Speaker 3: I hate an unproductive environment and I'm with that. Speaker 1: That's fair. It is our sincere hope that this statement brings closure and allows all involved to move forward constructively and in peace, including a respectful environment online. And in the hope of moving forward constructively and in peace, Blake goes to the met gal Yeah, yep. Now we'll get to whether or not they got their respectful environment online, But just a very quick catch up, because we would be here for a year if we went into all the ins and outs of what's been going on here. But it all started when Blake Lively. Do I need to explain who she is? Significant star actress, possessor of wonderful hair, one half of a very powerful Hollywood power couple, made a movie called It Ends with Us, based on one of the best selling books in the past decade by Colleen Hoover. Speaker 2: And you guys are weird about it because I said this morning that it's objectively one of the worst movies I've ever seen. And you guys, it's fine. You guys were so mad well. I didn't stop you so mad well. Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to that in a minute. The thing is is that making a movie based on one of the best selling books of the decade is smart business and lots of people wanted to do it. But the man who owned the rights was Justin Baldoni, who's a lesser known dude. He's an actor, producer, self proclaimed feminist. Done. Some Ted talks about it. Speaker 3: Everything I know about this man I've learned against my will exactly done. Speaker 1: Some Ted talks about it podcast with Liz Plank something something something. Anyway, the movie itself is about domestic balance. That is not a mystery or a surprise at his front and center in the plot. The movie got made, and the movie was a huge hit, proving Claire Stephens wrong. Speaker 3: All I need to say. Speaker 1: Against the modest production budget of twenty five million, it grossed around three hundred and fifty one million dollars. Huge movie, right, But before the hit part happened, obviously, it was obvious that things were for apart. Behind the scenes, everything had gone very very wrong. We're not going to take you through because again I know Klas Stevens has a PowerPoint on this somewhere. You It went very deep at the time. You were a great source of it. Speaker 3: It was great. A lot of this was going down. Speaker 2: I think maybe just as I submitted my books, and my reward to myself was finish your book and you can read all the legal poculars. Speaker 1: Yes, and there was this press tour that was like separate red carpets and warring factions and all this stuff. And then in December twenty twenty four, Lively sued Baldoni, accusing him of harassment, sexual misconduct, and a smear campaign on the set of their movie. She claimed that Baldoni conspired with publicists to preemptively destroy her reputation, hence the dodgy press tour after she privately accused him of sexually harassing her on the movie set. There were a lot of damning texts released, all hell broke loose. Then Baldoni countersued. He basically alleged that Lively and her husband Ryan Reynolds always wanted to take over this movie, the control of the script, to the edit, all the things that they had it in for him, and they used their very famous friends to intimidate and harass him. Speaker 3: I'll never forget the email that when unanswered, that she sent to Matt Damon. Speaker 1: Oh, I know. There were a lot of damning texts revealed. Speaker 2: Again, sorry, the one to Ben Affleck where she like, oh, she just made an awkward joke about how she had sent the email to Matt Damon and how great Matt Damon was, and I was like, honey, that's like Ben Affleck's biggest point of in security is comparing himself to Matt Damon and you don't know the idiots and your correspondence with Ben. Speaker 1: And so here we are suddenly, just weeks before this mess was all going to go to court, all these cases have been it. Speaker 3: Hadn't even gone to court. Speaker 1: No, some things had been dropped dropped. So first of all, Baldoni's case against Lively got dropped, and some elements of Lively's case against him got like so there was all that was stuff, but it was it was meant to go to court I think on May eighteen, so soon. Wow, And days before it's been disappeared. Lawyers have made millions, reputations have been trashed and nobody apparently no money exchanged hands between the two parties, and no one, as you as evidenced by that really confusing press release, nobody is saying that they've won or not. Claire does the fact that Blake Lively stepped onto the met Gala carpet the minute that happened signaled that she sees this as victory or that she'd liked to pretend the whole thing didn't happen, And how the hell does she move forward? Speaker 3: Yeah, Claire, what does that mean that she shot up at the Metgala? Speaker 1: One? Speaker 2: I think it's genius. I always think that the best publicity in response to this stuff is to be around and change the narrative, like changing a different direction. Celebrities are so clever that it is no coincidence that this statement came out when it did and that then she was on a red carpet, because you just you know that there's so much going on in the world. People are going to be all the celebrity reporters are going to be distracted, just like the zones. Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And. Speaker 2: It's the same reason it always happens. When I was editor in chief, the local Australian celebrities would always announce their breakup at like five pm on a Friday, and it's like, you know. Speaker 3: The journals have gone to drinks or boxing day. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, we've gone to drinks, you know that West Skeleton stuff on the weekends. Speaker 3: We're not going to go as hard on this story. Speaker 2: So I think it was smart that it was released when it was, and it was smart that she turned up at the met gala and that she reminded everyone I look really good in address. Speaker 1: You to figure but disagree because what immediately happened the minute she opened her mouth. Speaker 2: Well, this is what's interesting that depending on your algorithm, and depending on what side of the Internet you're on, there are two very different stories. So on certain apps, the story I'm saying is this was a win for Blake Lively that, for example, the line at the end of that statement including a respectful environment online, that that was very much acknowledging what had happened to her, which was all the allegations about manufactur orchestrated campaign. Speaker 1: Because that is the thing that I will take away from this mess the most, is that seeing the messages between Baldoni's press people and him about ways that you can use and manipulate social media to dent somebody's reputation is not just like when you see suddenly start seeing everywhere lots of tiktoks around of like, look at this interview with this person, doesn't she come across a bit like this but there can be a lot more behind it. And this is also things that we pointed out about amber Hood joining the amber Hood Johnny deppcayse that there can be a really orchestrated dark arts going on there, and certainly the examples that were pinging back and forward between Justin Baldoni and his reps suggested that I knew that. Speaker 2: Yeah, And so there's there's a lot of arguments that that line in particular is about what she went through, because she really has been torn apart on the internet. However, I couldn't believe that she turns up at the met Gala. She there's she clearly you could actually tell from her speaking when she was interviewed that she was nervous, that she was trying, like, I can't put my foot in it. Speaker 3: I can't like that. Speaker 2: There have been viral interviews of her for a couple of years now all over the Internet of her just saying slightly the wrong thing in an interview, and it becomes that she's an awful person. Blake Lively did an interview on the met Gala red carpet and it has been analyzed to death, and people think she was rude to the interviewer in this instance, well, you look gorgeous. Speaker 4: I am wearing Jackson weederhot gorgeous, thank you beautiful hair. She yeah, you look studying. And this is archival versace, but they met a fid it by adding a big beautiful train. So it's a piece from two thousand and six. And it was just such an honor to be able to wear this gorgeous, gorgeous gown. It looks like a sunrise and a sunset and watercolor and gorgeous range shworts, jewelry. But this this, but these, this is a Judith leberbag. And we were trying to find a piece of famous iconic art to put on and make it look like it was in a frame. And then I said, would you actually, if you're gonna make it custom, would you do my kid's art? So my kids each painted a painting, a watercolor painting. So each of my four kids did this. Speaker 1: That is so spoo especial. Speaker 4: So I have them with me. Speaker 2: And that has been interpreted as her being a bit, as her being dismissive, as her being self scentered. The other thing that's been I think we want to know what this is. Speaker 1: So here's my challenge to your strategy, be public, give them things to talk about, because she can't get away from this narrative now for some time, it's been years of her lit like every time she opens her mouth. There's a lot of people invested in you're a terrible person, as you say, so they're just going to find ways to say that over and over again. In the way that the Internet is now very invested in hating Blake Lively a certain so, just in the way that the internet's very invested in hating Megan Markele. It doesn't matter what she does, what she says, where she goes. You can't win that game. Speaker 2: One of the great arguments was it costs one hundred k for a plate at the Met gala, and part of her claim was the financial stress caused by Baldoni smear campaign. And it's like she's not paying for that one hundred k plate, neither is anyone people being like I thought you were arguing you were locked out of Hollywood. Speaker 3: Doesn't look like you're locked out of Hollywood. Speaker 2: And she had a bag where her interpretation of the art theme was that she got her four kids to draw a picture on each side of the back no self centered, made it about you. Speaker 3: You wanted to. Speaker 2: Claim authorship over this event, So there are people. Speaker 1: This is why I think her best strategy is to go away for a few years. Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think the weird thing is I think if Justin Baldoni had turned up, I think there's something, there's an anonymity that we give men that we just don't give women like I just don't think he is going to be plagued in the same way. And I think it's Marina Hyde who says he'll probably do some low budget it. Speaker 1: Will definitely have dented his possibilities of becoming a big name. I think that because, as Marina Hyde says in that story in The Guardian, she wrote a column about this, saying that the overarching lesson of this whole thing is never ever go to court, never ever ever. And they didn't actually end up in court, but still is that for the rest of time. Their names are now linked, every interview, every pro file, every project they do. This will always be part of the story in a way that it wouldn't if it hadn't entered the courts. But when I say I think go away free, I don't mean disappear like I don't mean silencing women. I mean work on projects, work on producer projects, hustle behind the scenes, do all your hollywoody stuff until you can come back to address this with more nuanced Look at Lena Dunnan. We've been talking about that a lot lately. Famously one of the most hated women on the internet for a period of time, couldn't put a foot right, couldn't do anything right, opened her mouth, everybody jumped on her. We know how the culture treats women who speak out about all kinds of things. There are local examples of this too. In a way. You've got to like let the air out of it and then come back when there's some nuance and distance. Speaker 3: You know what I mean That her while best friend Taylor Swift would have told her that too, because Taylor, of course also famously disappeared and was getting around in large boxes for a while just to stay out of the public eye. That comment of Marina Hides about never go to court is interesting because a few years ago, someone in a professional context did something to me that made me want to take them to court, and so I went to talk to a lawyer about it, who have been recommended to me, and the lawyer heard me out. I was very grateful for the advice she gave me. She said, look, I think you have a strong case, but if you did this, everyone in your field would say that you were a nightmare, no matter what happened in the court case, no matter how right you are, and I do think you're right, it would affect you professionally and it would follow you professionally for the rest of your life. And I think getting that advice from someone who had kind of a monetary gain to taking the case on was something I really appreciated. And I just wonder if Blake Lively's legal advice turned out to be deeply misguided. Speaker 1: I know. The sad thing about this argument I've never taken to court is, of course, that women putting up with sexual harassment at work are just always this guy from ever doing anywhere with it, because you're going to get your character smeared. And it might be on the scale of a Blake Lively, or it might be just the local gossip at the football club, like whatever it is, and that it's like we've seen this play out in massive letters across the sky that watch out, women will get you one way or another, and whether or not Blake Lively is particularly likable, is always nice to everybody? Blah blah blah, isn't the point? Speaker 2: Yeah, it is quite scary for women knowing that if you pursue, which is what an element of what Blake Lively was pursuing, a sexual harassment claim, that all your texts will be looked over and mocked and made fun of. Like, that's a really scary cost to pay. After the break James Valentine and why everyone's talking about the concept of a living wake. On the twenty second of April of this year, cast out musician and author James Valentine died age sixty four, leaving behind his son, his daughter, and his wife. The ABC veteran had terminal cancer, and he was widely loved by his audience, who had been listening to him for three decades. He had been transparent over the last two and a half years about his health. He was a very talented saxophone player and anyone who grew up in the eighties in Australia probably knows him as part of the band The Models and their iconic songs Barbados and Out of Mind, Out of Sight, and he was a Sydney radio presenter. Emilia and Holly, what was your connection to James Valentine as a radio personality? Speaker 3: He was a really important figure in my childhood. He hosted a thing called the Afternoon Show on ABC when back when there were forty TV channels in this country. I remember those days, and he would host and it was cartoons, it was variety. And I never really listened to him on the radio, but I have such you know, in the way that those childhood figures loom large for you. I've always held such fondness and affection for him. And how about you, Hollie. Speaker 1: He's clearly just an incredibly skilled communicator. I mean, I would be lying if I said I listened to that show. But anyone who knows how radio works, how the ABC works, so many people I know who know him. He was just clearly exceptionally good at what he did and very loved. Speaker 2: It's a reminder I think that parasocial relationships have existed long before the Internet. The fact that when the news of his death came out there was a widespread kind of public grieving and a lot of listeners who called in the next day, and his wife and his kids were kind of saying how much that meant to have people remember their dad through sense of humor and his energy. So two and a half years ago he was diagnosed with esophagal cancer and he was given two different treatment options, and he chose the one that was a bit less invasive and would preserve the things he loved in life, which were presenting radio, playing saxophone and enjoying food. Then in January of this year, he's given a terminal diagnosis and his response to that diagnosis and what he planned to do next was documented in Monday's episode of Australian Story, presented by Lee Sales, and it started a huge conversation about the concept of a living wake, which he very fittingly held on Valentine's Day of this year. Here's what he said on the show stage. Speaker 5: Four, terminal, inoperable, uncurable. I don't want to hear any of those words, let alone in the one sentence. So a friend suggested Tommy, maybe you should do a living wake, and oh, that sounds like fun. I will know the time and the day and so it'll be the last weekend. What do you do on that last weekend's dinner? Before? What do you think is that the last meal, I will probably know exactly when I'm going. Speaker 1: That's so moving. So seeing the footage of his reference at the end there was due to the fact that he ultimately chose the time he was going to die, right. Speaker 2: Yeah, he chose voluntary assisted dying and was very transparent around how he made that decision and what that decision entailed. For context, voluntary assisted dying is legal in all states in Australia and the Act except the Northern Territory, and obviously it's an incredibly complex and incredible, incredibly personal decision that has sparked. It's sparking more and more conversation the more we have and aging population and the more people are getting certain diagnoses that may keep them alive for a very long time, but the quality of that life may be poor, and him kind of taking people through that decision was a huge part of the Australian story. But it meant that he got to plan this living wake and there's footage of it, and he's got his family and friends there and there are so many familiar ABC faces and he's really good friends with Norman Swan, who he had on radio to discuss his diagnosis, like what all the different parts of the body were and what they did. And there was something so moving about seeing him on stage with a microphone at his own wake, basically saying, please come up to me and tell me stories and memories about us, because they are what's going to carry me through the next few weeks. And I guess I thought it must be such a relief for his family that then when you do a funeral, he's heard all the beautiful things that you're then going to say about him. I think this is really something we should we should all be looking at. Speaker 1: If it's possible, this episode of Australian Story is really recommended viewing. I think, whether you know who James Valentine is or not, in a world where we hate to talk about death, and yet it touches everybody obviously, I mean that's a ridiculous thing to say, but it does touch everybody. I'd lost a friend to this same cancer when he was only forty six. It's like all cancers. It's a it's it's cruel and the idea that we're also we don't like talking about illness, we don't like talking about death, and seeing somebody such a skilled communicator like James Valentine in this episode talking about why he wanted to do the things he did, and they document the year so very like him talking about how very much clarified for him that he loved his work, so he didn't want to stop working. He loved playing his saxophone, so he wanted to try and avoid procedures that were going to stop him from doing that. That he really wanted to work, play and be with his family, and those are the things he wanted to spend his last year doing. It's just it's very powerful, it's very clarifying. And then to see him at his living way and he says, you know, it wakes People always say, oh, he would have loved me there, and he says, so I wanted to be there, And I just think it's very refreshing. I think, you know, I, as I said, I didn't have a direct listenership with Joe's Valentine, but people who do, and people I know who've worked with him said he brought joy all the time. And it feels like a gift to give be so honest and so open and so clear eyed in talking about this thing that nobody wants to talk about. Is like the last incredible gift that a great communicator could give, and his family is so amazing in it. I really recommend watching the show. Speaker 2: There's a great quote in one of the ABC articles about his kind of decision making towards towards the end, where I think, as a psychologist says, dying people are not the actual act of dying is not the thing they're most scared of. They're scared of the invisibility and the absence of conversation around it. They're scared of people turning away and not wanting to be around them because of how confronting it is. And this was just such a reminder to look it straight in the eye and have the existential conversations with the people around you. The way that he spoke to his kids, and his kids were able to say, what do you think is going to happen afterwards? Speaker 3: And I bet that that's so much harder to do than even it looks. It doesn't look easy, but I bet it's even harder to actually enact these principles that we can all agree are worthwhile. Speaker 1: I love that his kids say that this was perfect for him in particular, this living weight, because he loved being center of attention. He loved a party, He loved being told I'm brad he was. I love the way they you know that families are really kind of I mean, I'm sure no families are perfect, but they're really healthy and loving when they can just call out that stuff about you and be like, he would love this because he just loves everybody tell him how great he is. Speaker 3: So good. Speaker 2: Yeah, And I loved that it wasn't a sanitized version because I think something I always bristle at is when you hear of somebody getting a terminal diagnosis or of you know, knowing that they're going to die. I bristle at the narrative of I guess almost toxic positivity that they're just like, well, I'm completely grateful and joyful. And then I feel for the people who don't have that response, which is completely bloody normal. But I loved there was a lot of light and shade in this. They talked about they went on a holiday, a family holiday to Bali, just before he was meant to get the surgery for his esophagus, and that the whole family's like, oh so bloody terrible holiday. Everyone was sick, everyone had covid Dad. Speaker 3: Had BALI belly like. It's sort of I like that. Speaker 2: In documenting this time, they've been able to show the highs and lows of what happened. But the nort Yeah, how normal it is. But the fact that he was able to do it his way, and that those conversations around what you want, what you don't want, they give so much empowerment in those in those final months and final days. Speaker 1: Something completely different. There was celebrity baby news this week that I must mark because it was interesting. Cameron Diaz and Benji Madden just welcomed their third child. And it's interesting because Cameron is fifty three. Now. When I say that, I don't mean it's interesting in that way of like, oh, miracle baby, how did she do that? Why did you do that? Cameron Diaz. They announced that their little boy had come. They announced what his name was. His name is Nortous and he joins Raddix and Cardinal, which are all just the most rock star names of all time. They announced it. They didn't give any more details than that. It is safe to assume just because Cam's been on a press tour lately, she's been quite visible on a tour for a movie called Outcome, So she's been very visible, and it's safe to assume possibly that she wasn't heavily pregnant during that time, so likely that a surrogate was involved, but none of our business. But the thing that I found really interesting and refreshing that I wanted to unpack a little bit here is I wrote an essay a while ago when Sienna Miller was on the Red Carpet with her beautiful baby bump at I think forty three, and saying how we're entering a bit of an era of agelessness because perhaps of fertility technology, because of the different options that are open to us now, because of Hollywood and the wellness world's obsession with longevity, that we're in a different era now when it comes to age and women and kids. And I think nothing illustrates that more clearly than the fact that there haven't been a whole waterfall of stories about like, oh my god, a mom at fifty three and how could she and why would she? And da da da da. Is that now we're much more kind of like in the way that we might be about a man becoming a father at fifty three, because if you remove the biological complication from the advance for chility technology and all those things. It isn't really any different than the guy who's been doing that forever. Yeah, am I right? Yeah? Speaker 2: No, I think so too. The interesting thing is, as well, when I've looked at this story, how old Benji Madam? Well, nobody ever, as I don't know, I don't know, why didn't I. Speaker 1: Google similar age? I think, well, let's find it happen. Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're seven, so being a little bit younger Benji's forty seven, bloody spring chicken. But I it's interesting because whenever I see pregnancy baby news, it's obviously the life stage. Speaker 3: I'man, I always google. Speaker 1: How old is how? Speaker 3: How old is that? Speaker 1: Money is she? Speaker 2: And you're right that we don't when we wouldn't blink an eye at a man having a child at fifty three. And obviously, if you want to think about any of the things that make rearing children. Speaker 3: Difficult, the older you get. Speaker 2: I mean, Amaran Diaz looks like a bloody pillar of health. She's gonna live forever, She's gonna live till she's undred. Speaker 3: Well, I think what's interesting is that you said no one will blink, and I about a man. I wonder if, now, because women are also having babies older, all of a sudden, we're starting to blink her eyes at men having babies older. Men were allowed to do it for all of human history, but now that women are starting to do it, we're starting to revisit the whole idea of older parents because. Speaker 2: We are interested, and there is actually more and more scientific research going into the health impacts of older because you know how, I'm called geriatric. Just for the record, I'm a geriatric mother. What age, I'm thirty five years old. No, they don't. They call it advanced material. Speaker 3: They definitely call it just it's kind of coolrophistic. Speaker 1: They definitely did call it geriatric though, when I had my second child at forty, I that's interesting. Speaker 2: But if they call Brent geriatric, no, but they should have done it because he's elderly, I think. Speaker 1: I think that's interesting. But then that also assumes. Speaker 3: Like the judgments creeping in for both sexes now, is what I'm saying. Speaker 1: Yes, and that assumes the idea about like we're becoming aware of the risks of older parents assumes assumes a lot about what might be going on here biologically. Yes, exactly, whereas if Cameron Diaz and Benji Madden and whoever else may be in their cohort are having are assessing all the risks, I'm sure they are. We know how health obsessed Hollywood is and making those choices, and there I think. I don't know that's interesting though, Amelia, where you say that that maybe the judgment, instead of fading away, just attaches itself to both genders. Speaker 3: Well, because I don't think it is just about biology. I think it would be we need to put on the table to not be disingenuous. That a lot of people listening to this may have a reaction of if you have a baby at a more advanced age, shall we say, in your fifties, you automatically do a bit of maths, and you think, well, when that child in school, Cameron Diaz will be sixty three. I don't know how old Benji Madden will because I'm not that good at maths, but he'll be also kind of old. And so I think that's one of the concerns that people are now voicing a little bit more when no one ever used to say, well, Mick Jagger is going to be so old when his kids graduate but now we are starting to say that or feeling perhaps feeling more comfortable to say that. Speaker 1: I think that's really interesting. But then I think in this privileged bubble that we're talking about, longevity is an obsession. So I think that that is also changing. This right is that people are thinking rightly, wrongly whatever that with all the right advances and all the right supplements and all the right that they're imagining themselves at seventy three, at this kid's twenty first, like leaping around, I'm doing yoga and pilate, particularly if they. Speaker 2: And Brian Johnson says he's got what is it the sperm of a twenty old? Think about that, man, Yeah, So I'm sure Cameron and Benji are having the same conversation. Speaker 3: So Cameron has remember she literally wrote a book about sort of how to be healthy as you get older, so she's this is clearly on her radar that she's sort of anticipating she will be living a long time. Speaker 1: That's always got time for on this Wednesday. Speaker 3: At births, deaths, any marriages, No. Speaker 1: There weren't any couples at the met gala, were they? They all went. Speaker 2: Solo boycotting, boycotting marriage on the metal, or. 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The episode opens with Adam disclosing that he is currently unemployed and wrestling with depression-fueled boredom — the paradox of having nothing to do while lacking the motivation to do anything. He reports filling his days with chores, daily Peloton rides, occasional haircuts, and no travel on the calendar until July. Daniel follows with his running update: he completed his fourth Springtime Surprise event at Walt Disney World — a Joy and Sadness–themed 10-miler — marking roughly three years of running. Friends Zach, Taylor, and Rodan tackled the full 19.3-mile challenge over three days. Daniel's next race target is a Peanut Butter and Jelly Run in September; in the meantime, he plans a low-intensity summer of 5K and 10K maintenance runs. Adam then recounts a pre-theater taco dinner before seeing Mamma Mia with his partner Marc, and relays an incident where his elderly mother — on oxycodone for a pinched nerve in her wrist, compounded by chronic back pain and two knee replacements — fell out of bed and couldn't get up. Adam drove over to help, and the two managed to lift her back onto the bed, with an involuntary gas release from the patient marking the climactic moment of the story.The middle section of the show is dominated by two extended recaps. First, Daniel delivers his long-teased Survivor debrief, skewering a game twist in which contestant Christian Hubeki was sent to a time-limited floating-raft puzzle with no upside if he lost — he was forced to return to camp and publicly announce both a lost vote and a pre-placed urn vote against himself, eliminating any strategic maneuvering. Daniel and Adam agree the compelled public confession was the design flaw, not the puzzle itself. A follow-up two-hour episode featuring MrBeast and a food auction (fries, charcuterie, sea slugs, and a whole cheesecake) rounds out the Survivor talk. Second, Daniel delivers the episode's anchor segment: a full recap of the inaugural Dollywood Half Marathon weekend in the Smoky Mountains. He and Zach stayed at the DreamMore Resort, collected their bibs from a comically undersized expo, ran their respective races, and spent two days in the park. Daniel extensively praises Dollywood's immaculate landscaping and overall cleanliness, visits the Dolly Parton museum and life show, and comes away newly converted to the Dolly Parton canon after learning how many songs she wrote.The back half of the episode cycles through several recurring and one-off segments. The Contact segment produces one voicemail from friend-of-the-show Scotty Aussie Battler, which launches a debate about hot pot and fondue restaurants, with both hosts arriving at the same verdict: you are paying restaurant prices to cook your own inferior food. The Gay Mix News Game follows, with Daniel answering five NYT current-events questions perfectly — touching on the Supreme Court Louisiana redistricting ruling, the White House Correspondents' Dinner assassination attempt, demands to fire Jimmy Kimmel, a Trump-portrait anniversary passport, and the Elon Musk vs. OpenAI trial — before stumbling slightly in a Trivial Pursuit bonus round. A semi-comedic side story involves Daniel being recruited by friend Joe Betance for a cross-promotional appearance on an escape-room podcast, only for his Riverside recording app to crash immediately upon joining, leaving Adam to carry the interview solo. The episode closes with the Birthday Segment — featuring Kate Mulgrew (71) and Jerry Seinfeld (72), identified via themed audio clips — and a coda in which Daniel recounts discovering an Air Supply YouTube recording from Epcot's Garden Rocks concert series and concluding, with audible relief, that he had not missed anything of value.Email: Contact@MixMinusPodcast.comVoice/SMS: 707-613-3284

Hayden Panettiere has come out as bisexual at 36. Plus, Kesha continues to surprise and delight us, Justin Baldoni speaks after the court settlement and a stack of TV and movie development news! Woohoo! ☕ Hayden Panettiere comes out as bisexual ahead of her new memoir ☕ Kesha admits to wearing her...placenta around her neck. Of course. ☕ Justin Baldoni's lawyer says he's "ecstatic" about the Blake Lively settlement outcome ☕ New details emerge on why Helena Bonham Carter quit White Lotus ☕ Huge news for Harry Potter fans ☕ Hocus Pocus 3 is happening, and all three Sanderson Sisters are back THE END BITSOnce you’ve devoured this morning’s celeb stories, get your daily news headlines from The Quicky here.You can now watch some of our episodes in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to seeLINK: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-spill/id1473523403Support independent women's mediaFollow us on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. And subscribe to our Youtube channel.Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia... here.Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here.CREDITSHost & Producer: Ash LondonExecutive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Good morning, angels. I hope you are absolutely glowing today because we have a cracker of an episode. I'm Axe London and there's so much going on. Shoud we just get into it. Let's just buddy, we'll get into it today. Hayden Panachier has come out, Kesha has been wearing something around her neck that makes me feel a little woozy. Justin Baldoni has something to say about the Black Lively settlement, and a huge update from the world of TV and movies was some exciting new projects just announced. So watch you wait for bebe Let's Possum tea first up. Hayden Panachier, best known for Heroes, Nashville and screen Franchise, has come out as bisexual at thirty six, ahead of the release of her memoir This is Me A Reckoning on May twelve. She told Us Weekly, now that I know this book is coming out and I've chosen to share it with the world, I'm comfortable to confidently say that, yes, I'm bisexual. 01:04Speaker 2 I said it. 01:05Speaker 1 That's the first time I got to say it out loud. She explained why it took so long with such clarity. She said it was never the right time. First she was too young and forced to be perfect at all times. Then came the period where people saw women coming out as bisexual as a fad, and she was terrified of being accused of jumping on a bandwagon. She also shared that she's dated women beginning from a very young age with a constant presence of paparazzi. Meant she never felt she could fully emotionally invest because here she did fall in love. That wasn't something that she wanted to ever have to hide. Well, he's to live in your truth, babe, Get a girl next time. My queen Kesha has made an interesting admission about a delightful piece of jewelry she's been choosing to wear around her neck. I mean, we look at the met gala where seeing the rock wearing a five point five million dollar watch. Half a million dollars were the pearls and other ladies and Kesha's guard, Nah, I've got something better at home, my plus center. 01:56Speaker 2 So your placenta supposedly gives you seconds, helps open your third eye, according to my mother. So she stuck it in the oven. She put it in a box, and she found it when I was like twenty one years old in the basement. Wait, she had to like fight for my placenta, my mom. They tried to take my placenta away from her at the hospital and she like fucking threw a conniption fit, and she fought for it. She fought for that. So now I carry it around. She put it in the oven, strapped it up in a box, stuck it in the basement. We found it, Throw it in the blender, pop it in a necklace work art. 02:42Speaker 1 A quick update on the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni situation, because there's been a slight development overnight. Yesterday we reported that two head settled with no money changing hands and no apology from Baldoni. Now he's a lawyer. Brian Friedman has spoken to the press and the words he used were very deliberate. Of course, he said, I can't talk about the term of the settlement, but what I can tell you is that he is ecstatic. That both Jamie and Justin are ecstatic at the result of this and the settlement itself. They are very pleased with how this has ended up. Friedman also made the point that by the time settlement discussions began, Baldoni himself was no longer even a party to the case. Ten of the thirteen claims had been thrown out, and the remaining claims were against Wayfair Studios and its PR team, not Baldoni personally. He said, you're looking at this settlement as a winner or a loss. I think he just looks at it as a logical ending to a case is already out of Frankly, stick around. A TV and movie update awaits on the other side, from White Lotus to Hocus Pokis and Harry Potter. Welcome back to Morning to You, where I've got a stack of news about upcoming movies and TV shows, and we'll kick things off with the White Lotus as we're getting more and more information about what specifically caused the difference of opinions which led to Helena Bonham Carter quitting the show. According to Variety, the created differences came down to Mike White demanding a oysterous performance from her role of a washed up start chasing a Hollywood comeback bottom. Carter reportedly didn't want to deliver that what specifically was asked that she felt she couldn't give. I had many many questions they may never get answered. The door remains open for a future season. Apparently we live in hope. HBO has officially renewed it's Harry Potter series for season two before season one has even aired, which tells me one thing as Gond be good. Season one at Philosopher's Stone, Premier's Christmas Day twenty twenty six, I hope my family aren't expecting me to spend any time with them that day. Season two will adapt Chamber of Secrets and begins filming this autumn. John Brown, a writer from Succession, has been promoted to co showrunner for season two, joining current show run at Francesca Gardner. His quote on the news seems you're never too old to get your invitation to hog Quarts. I'm already sold obviously. And finally, hocus Pogus IIE is officially in early development at Disney Live Action Studios at all three Sanders Sisters, Sanders Sisters, Back, Vet Middler, Sarah, Desic Parker, and Kakinademia all confirmed to reprise their roles, and unlike Hocus Pocos two, which went straight to streaming, there are plans for a theatrical release this time and I will be in the cinema in full witch costume. I love this movie so much. Practical Magic two and Hocus Pocos three, What a time to be Witchie. And that, my Sweet Angels, is all I've got time for today. I hope you enjoyed your short hit up entertainment news for your Thursday morning. I'll be back on Monday with more of the good stuff, and in the meantime, make sure you check back in around three pm for the spill Digtive and Mass London. Your host executive producer is Minitius Warren and we're back next week. 05:37Speaker 2 Bye, Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land. 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Why do women in long-term relationships often lose their 'spark' while men seem to have an on-off switch? Is your hair dryer actually causing your colour to fade? And, can you get a medical 'crystal ball' to tell you exactly how many eggs you have left? In this episode, Dr Mariam and Claire speak to Dr Eva Jackson, a Sexual Health Physician, to unpack the complex world of female desire. They discuss the difference between 'spontaneous' and 'reactive' arousal, why the word 'libido' might be outdated, and the medical reasons - from antidepressants to hormonal shifts - that might be stalling your sex life. Plus, in Med School, Claire and Dr Mariam look at the science of hair health. We reveal the research-backed way to dry your hair to prevent cuticle damage (hint: it involves a ruler and a blast of cold air) and why leaving your hair to air-dry might actually be doing more harm than good. And, in the Quick Consult, Dr Mariam answers Catherine’s question about 'ticking clock' anxiety. 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Mariam, what gets you going sexually? 00:10Speaker 2 It is when my husband shows up, just appears. When he does, like, things without me asking, right, So, my goodness, Like he's packed the kids their lunches, he's taken a bit of my mental load. He's done a bit of cleaning. Men do not understand. 00:31Speaker 1 Okay, men do not understand me. Take a little bit of mental load, it is so hot 00:38Speaker 2 So hot, 00:46Speaker 1 Hi there, welcome to Well your Full Body Health Check. I'm Claire Murphy. 00:50Speaker 2 And I'm doctor Mariam. 00:51Speaker 1 And today we're talking about Libido time to get spicy. There is always a lot of comparisons about how women's health issues have been overlooked while men get pills for a rectile dysfunction, But there are actually pills for women's desire too, which we will discuss. But we'll also touch on what it is about us that so many of us do seem to lose spark over time. We'll also have a quick consult for Catherine today. She's got a ticking clock issue and she wants to know how to maybe quieten it down just a little bit. But next mariam are you a blow dry girl, after you wash your hair or do you let it just do its thing and air dry. 01:33Speaker 2 I'm gonna be honest. I actually wash my hair every seven to ten days. I know, I know, you know why. I have so much hair, So I have to blow dry my hair after I've had to wash. But I do it in segments because there's so much and it takes so long. 01:50Speaker 1 Oh, this is me crying you tears of sadness for your I have so much glorious flowing hair that it takes me hours to dry, so much work. 02:00Speaker 2 I actually get like I sweat, it's like almost need to shower again. So I'll do like a light blow dry to start with, and then I'll do like a quarter and proper and then I'll just take a couple of hours off and then revisit. 02:13Speaker 1 Over two days, just take breaks between. 02:16Speaker 2 It hurts my arms so painful. 02:19Speaker 1 Rip your hairdresser. Okay, Well, next in med school, I'm gonna reveal which one to blow dry or not to blow dry is actually better for your hair. Welcome to med school. Is it better for your hair to leave it to dry naturally or use a blow dry? I unlike you with your glorious tresses have very fine hair, not a lot of it, so I almost have to race from the shower to the hair dry before it starts drying by itself. 02:47Speaker 2 What happens if it dries. 02:48Speaker 1 If it dries naturally by itself, it ends up in weird shapes. Okay, so it's naturally straight, so I don't straighten it. But if I don't blow dried, it's almost stuck to my scalp and it's very flat, so it needs some kind of air in there for vol But if you've ever visited a hairdresser, they will have different opinions, which is funny because they'll tell you you need to put stuff on your hair to protect it from any heat, and we use a lot of heat with curlers or straighteners or hair dryers whilst they simultaneously fry your hair as they blow right from the roots right. But here's the thing. Your hair can absorb about thirty percent of its weight when it's wet, so it soaks up the water and swells from the inside. So what that means is it's stretching your hair's outer layer or cuticle, and that puts pressure on the cell membrane complex. That's the glue that holds all those cuticles together and forms the length of your hair. So if you leave it wet, it stays in that vulnerable swollen state for longer, and then cracks can form due to that swelling. That is what then causes damage to the cuticle itself, and sometimes it can also cause your colour to fade because the color is absorbed in them. And then if you leave it wet and out to dry naturally, can crack that and make the colour stuff to go right, So, what is the best option for hair health? According to research. Yes, research has been done on this. Blow drying on medium heat from fifteen centimeters away fifteen fifteen Oh jeez, I know. 04:17Speaker 2 It's it's fair ways away from your head. That's more arm work. 04:21Speaker 1 It is more arm work. You can get bigger by steps, keep the dryer moving so it doesn't heat up one area for too long, and then drying it till it's just about eighty percent and then leaving the rest to dry naturally. Okay, that apparently causes less damage than just doing nothing. So little bit of heat not too much. So apparently then too, you should finish off with a bit of a cool blast of air because it helps seal the cuticle part of it and also stops the residual heat. 04:50Speaker 2 And it holds its shape longer. 04:52Speaker 1 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So just measure fifteen to get a ruler. Jeez, measure fifteen centimeters away from you head. 05:00Speaker 2 Yeah, it's going to be a little bit hard work. Sorry about that. 05:04Speaker 1 On the way, today's check up, where we are off in search of all of our lost libidos, or never found? Where did they go? 05:15Speaker 3 It's time for the checkup? 05:18Speaker 1 Mariam? What gets you going sexually? 05:20Speaker 2 Well, okay, if you ask me, ten years ago been very different, right, what is it today? today? It is when my husband shows up, just appears, when he does like things without me asking, right, So, my goodness, Like he's packed the kids their lunches, he's taken a bit of my mental load, he's done a bit of cleaning. 05:44Speaker 1 Men do not understand. Okay, men do not understand me take a little bit of mental load. Is so hot? 05:54Speaker 2 It is so hot, so hot. 05:56Speaker 1 Yeah. But Mariam, do many women speak to you about not being motivated to have sex anymore? 06:01Speaker 4 Okay? 06:02Speaker 2 So women will often say I just don't feel like having sex anymore, and it's kind of like, oh, this is the status quo. I've accepted it, and it's not something they generally come to me with, so. 06:15Speaker 1 That's always they've already accepted this. 06:16Speaker 2 Yeah, that's where they're at, and it's like the norm and it's acceptable, and sometimes they don't offer that information. I as a GP like to cover a lot of sexual health in my consultations, and a lot of the time that I will get, is something wrong with me? And I want to say, nothing is wrong with you. You're not broken, and you're definitely not the only one feeling this way. Three of us in the room have put our hands up. In fact, Australian research shows that one in three women will experience low sexual desire at some point in their life, so that's a third of us. So if you're nodding along right now, you're in good company. And what's interesting, it's rarely about not wanting sex. Sometimes it's medical, sometimes emotion. On a lot of the time it's both. So let's start with the medical side of things. So a lot of the time there's a hormonal issue at play. You may have just had a baby, you might be going through perimenopause or menopause, and we know a lot of medications to side effect can be loss of libido. Then there's low iron, thyroid issues, chronic pain, endometriosis. They all can play a role as well, So before you start blaming yourself or your relationship, it's worth getting a checkup. Then there's the emotional and relationship side. So when you're juggling work, especially as a female, you've got your family, You've got the mental and emotional load, and that invisible to do list that just never ends. Your brain's just in this survival mode, and a brain that's trying to get through the day isn't exactly thinking, yes, let's get it on tonight, I really want some penis. 07:51Speaker 1 And there's something about like, you know, you might even be in a great frame of mind and thinking, yeah, I am feeling turned on right now, and then your partner will be like, where's my shoes and you're like, oh yeah, oh now, I'm just dealing with another child, and it's like that switches off immediately, right, So it doesn't take much to turn off. And we're not always visual creatures either. Women. We are very much in our heads and we like to be turned on in different ways, not just like and I know I've had conversations with my friends and one of my friends said, have any of your husbands just like pulled it out and said, hey, let's go, And we've all kind of gone yeah, and they're like, did that work for any of you? And one of our friends has got like quite a high libido and she's like, Yep, I'm ready to go anytime of the day or night, and that works for her. But for the rest of us, we were like, no, it does not work for me. But when I asked, have any of you talked to your husbands about that? And they're like, yeah, we tried to say something like that doesn't work, but none of us said what would work? Yeah, so the communication wasn't great with that either. 08:58Speaker 2 I always tell my husband's sex starts before the bedroom, and I know it's hard with kids, liked you kind of have to book in that intimacy. 09:05Speaker 1 Yep, and then there's always that paranoid that they're gonna wake up and walk in or whatever 09:09Speaker 2 But it's just like when it becomes schedule, it's just loses it. It just loses it. But yeah, for me, definitely sex starts before the bedroom. I'm not someone who's just going to be aroused because you've flopped out your penis. That doesn't talk for me, buddy, Yes. 09:24Speaker 1 It doesn't work. I mean for some it does like it just doesn't. 09:27Speaker 2 It's just doing that. It's just like this thing that's just like flopping there. It's just doesn't do it. 09:33Speaker 1 My friend said to me, your husband came up and said, hey, baby, have you seen this lately? And she said, yeah, I see it all the time. What? Come on, you can do better than that. 09:43Speaker 2 Pack it away, buddy,. 09:45Speaker 1 Put a little bit more effort in. But if someone is struggling to have this discussion with a medical professional, like if they feel like they've done what they can on their own and they want a bit of extra help, what do you suggest they do to get the ball rolling. 09:58Speaker 2 I would suggest if you want to speak to your GP about it, finding maybe like a woman's health GP to start with. A lot of unfortunately, gps aren't really comfortable with having this conversation. I've seen a lot of patients say, tried to bring this up in the past and I didn't really get much answers or help, and that kind of shut them down or made them feel embarrassed. So I think having that conversation with someone who has experience in the area is going to make you feel a lot more comfortable and you're going to get the results that you want. So I would start by finding a GP with experience and then just letting them know I'm not feeling myself, I'm not feeling connected, I don't feel like having sex anymore. Is there something medically happening, and then the doctor will just take it from there. They'll ask you all the questions and they will guide the consultation based on what they think is appropriate. A good GP will make you feel comfortable, ask the right questions, and give you the support that you need. 10:58Speaker 1 Yeah. WhenI started researching libido. I actually realized that I don't know what it is. We talk about it like it's a physical thing in our bodies. Yeah that you can like point to, yeah, point of like that's where my libido lives. But yeah, so really I don't know what it is other than it's the urge to have sex. But it is a lot more than that. We are pretty complicated beings us, ladies, and can I also say too that, like, if you don't want to have sex anymore and you're very comfortable with that like, Thats fine! There is no one telling you that you have to have sex to be you know, I don't know, af functioning human, Like, you can live without it if that's your choice, and you're very happy. 11:32Speaker 2 With that too, And a lot of people are and choose to them. 11:36Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly, like and that's totally fine. But like, can I say for my LGBTQI mates, And this is not saying that they are all like this, because we're all different, but they seem to be a lot better at engaging in sex but also just talking about it with each other, like grown ass humans who have once and needs and they're happy to like discuss that and put it out there. 11:58Speaker 2 I don't know whether that's it is a thing I don't definitely see. Like I find with a lot of my heterosexual female friends that sex often feels transactional. It's like, oh, it's just another to do this job to do it's like a job something get over with, all right done? You know, Yeah, that's amazing, jeez, Claire your winning. What we actually crave is that engagement, that emotional foreplay, that communication and touch that isn't really goal driven or like a tick off the list. And you're right, because a lot of the lgbtqi I folk. They seem to have more open conversations about sex, not because they're magically better at it, they probably are. 12:41Speaker 3 But. 12:43Speaker 2 Because their relationships often require more conscious communication from the start, and they've had to define what intimacy means to them rather than just following a script. And that's something I guess everyone can learn from, like having those open, honest conversations saying this is what it looks like for me. 13:02Speaker 1 I guess too when we're talking about libido in women. When we talk about men, for example, and we know that there are, you know, medical interventions for them, like rectile dysfunction pills, but there's this idea that if a man loses his ability to get or maintain an erection, that there is a problem, that there is a medical issue, and so him not being able to get an erection is an issue. But for women, we don't have that equivalent. So, like, I wonder, what are the medical benefits for us to have our libidos fully functioning? Like I know that there was some research recently that suggested that masturbation was good for you when you're in menopause, that it had benefits, But I'm not sure if we have an equivalent of a erectile dysfunction relating to a man being physically healthy as opposed to us not having a libido and not being physically healthy. 13:53Speaker 2 We have that hyperactive sexual desire disorder. So there is a term HSDD, and there is treatment for that for females who have low libido if they meet the criteria. But I don't know whether or not as females there is that added benefit medically from orgasms. I'm sure in the moment there is maybe mental health. Maybe mental health. Yeah, we'll have to look into that. It's interesting, definitely worth a chat. 14:21Speaker 1 Yeah. Next, doctor Eva Jackson's going to tell us more about where a libido actually lives, how to wake it up if it's been snooz’in a while, and what things we know about both medical and non medical approaches to help. Okay, today's expert is doctor Eva Jackson. She is a sexual health physician, and we started our chat by asking her what even is a libido? Now, Eva, I think we want to start off by at first kind of establishing what a libido even is, because, like, if there's something going on with our bodies, often we can point to the spot and go right, that is where the problem is. But when we talk about issues with our libido, we might think it might be in our vagina, but a lot of it's in our head. And so I wanted to just get a definition from you before we go any further. What is our libido? Does it exist as a physical structure, like what is it? 15:19Speaker 3 I guess in medicine, libido is something that we can divide into two parts. So we've got desire, so the one thing to have sex, and then there's the arousal part, and that's the physical part where you know, you get your palpitations, you get the tingling in your vagina, you get the wetness, and they can come together, but they can be separate issues as well too, And libido can be a little bit difficult to, you know, to understand, and often when I've got someone in front of me, I've got to actually ask them, well, what are you missing? I think it's different for everybody when you're talking about libido, and it's really important to really pin down what the problem is because it can mean a lot of things to a lot of people, and in the end, the whole full definition, you know, doesn't really apply to that individual person. 16:10Speaker 1 Well, can we even talk about using the word libido, because that word was coined quite a long time ago by Sigmund Freud, and many people now say that perhaps it's a little oversimplified, It ignores a lot of societal things, cultural factors, it lacks a fair bit of scientific evidence as well, and that it might sort of overemphasize sex itself in all of this rather than the desire part of it. Would you say that maybe it's time to rethink even using the word libido. 16:38Speaker 3 Yeah, before you mentioned it to me earlier, I sort of thought, well, libido is a word that I see, but we tend not to use a lot of. The original Freudian libido was based on sex, was that the motivation to have sex. But I think Freud sort of expanded his definition somewhat for just the motivation for life and general happiness. I think sometimes men, when they come in and they say they've got low libido, they tend to have a lot more problems with motivation for other things as well, not just libido. But when women come in and specifically say I've lost my libido, got low libidio, they really are talking about just lacking the motivation to want to have sex. So libido I don't like pure definitions. It doesn't work for me, especially now being such a multicultural community. You know, you can sit down with somebody and they use the word because they hear it, but they haven't quite understood it, and it's really what that means to you. Like I said, I prefer to use the word desire because that has connotations of want as opposed to a whole lot of other things libido might encompass. People might think it's sex, people might just think it's dysfunction and in some other way. 17:58Speaker 1 What can we talk about finding issues that we would then take to our doctor and say that I've lost my libido or I've got an issue with my libido. When someone comes in and says those things, are there tests that come to mind that can help people understand where they are physiologically or is this more of a something for our therapist to talk through, Like what sort of tests or medical intervention do we look at when someone comes in and says, I've got a problem with my libido? 18:26Speaker 3 So I guess we're really talking here about cis women. A lot of women when they come in saying you know, they've got a lot of libido, is that they actually don't feel like sex with their partner. And then it's understanding what's going on. There's certainly you want to ask a lot about what's happening sexually, what's happening about their relationship, work, you know, things that are going on around them, and then of course those physical issues as well. Is there genital pain, deep pain? Is there, you know, a lack of lubrication, what's actually going on? Depending on what the actual issue is, there may be tests. A lot of women go directly to hormones, especially if they're older. So am I sort of premenopausal? Am my menopausal? Is that going to affect me? And that might be worth some investigations, And of course if there's pain and other physical issues there may also be some investigations for that as well too. And of course if there are some sort of chronic diseases that may affect particularly arousal, so arousal being usually whilst women will define their arousal as really not lubricating very much, it's a bit more difficult to have sex. But often there are a lot of things going on around that don't have anything to do with a physical problem and then maybe it's more sort of talking it through. 19:51Speaker 1 What would you say the most common reasons are for women to either lose interest in that desire or to have issues with desiring sex. 20:02Speaker 3 I think the most common reason is being in a long term relationship. So the longer you're with a partner, the less spontaneous desire that you know, women tend to have. And I think it's that sort of Hollywood kind of sex sort of coming through in that when we first meet someone, that's all very exciting and there's a lot of chemicals going around us that sort of allows spontaneous desire just oh my god, I want it now, you know, and let's do it. It all works. So the thing is the longer you're with somebody that doesn't happen as much. It holds true for men. Men are a bit simpler in that respect, I guess is that there have an on off switch and that arousal is spontaneous. But for women there's a lot of, can be, a lot of other things that have to be right, you know, before they have spontaneous desire or not even spontaneous sort of a desire that's brought on that actually tells you, yeah, sex would be really nice right now. And I think a lot of people still believe that if they love someone, if they in the presence of someone they enjoy, that they should just have that arousal in them and that desire for them, which doesn't necessarily hold true. 21:16Speaker 1 Well, can we talk about that, because you've mentioned spontaneous desire a few times, and that is if you could explain what spontaneous desire is and then how there's this idea that maybe women are more reactive desire based rather than spontaneous. 21:31Speaker 3 So a spontaneous desire is just that you look at your partner or a someone, I want to have sex, and you've got the physical feelings on the inside that say, yes, let's do this now. And I think the longer you are with someone that doesn't necessarily hold true. It's just some spontaneous desire is really just looking and saying, yeah, that would be nice. And I think a lot of women would like to be more like men in that sort of way, Like. 21:58Speaker 1 It sounds easier, does a bit. 22:01Speaker 3 Yeah. The problem is I think in the beginning it's cultural. You know, once upon a time, you know, we weren't meant to have a libido women one hundred years ago. It's like that was women are meant to want to have sex, So now you're normal, but now we're supposed to want to have it, and suddenly you're not normal when you don't want to have it. So yeah, it is very culturally defined what's normal and what's not, and there's not as far as I'm concerned, really there's not an abnormal. It's really what you need right now and how can we make that better for you. 22:35Speaker 1 I wanted to speak to you too about the fact that there seems to be a lot of people in our social media feeds that claim they have the answer to fixing our libidos. That could be anything from acupuncture, pressure points, nasal sprays. We see the Kardashians have, you know, got lines of things that they are promoting as being libido fixes. What should we be aware of when it comes to looking at helping our sexual desires and a lot of the things that are maybe being marketed at us as solutions. 23:06Speaker 3 First thing is safety. You want to know if you're get to take a product, at least it's safe. If it doesn't do anything, you want it to be safe. There's a lot of placeebo. In these things, you buy something, it works initially because you believe it's going to work, and then it doesn't. Belief is really important when it comes to something like libido. I think like a lot of libido really has to do with communication. If you're in a long term monogamous relationship, if that's what we're talking about here, a lot of it is to do with the communication with your partner. Testosterone is usually the thing that women talk to me a lot about, which is a possibility in older women who have hit menopaude, and that's available for women if you know that you have a sort of what we call a hypo desire sort of disorder. It's not really appropriate for younger women, and it really is. Again, it's really communication and understanding what you need to improve your libido. 24:07Speaker 1 Well, can we talk about one thing. I saw a neuroscientist on my social media feed claiming that women getting just one extra hour of sleep a night increases her libido by fourteen percent. Now I do not know on what research he has based this claim on, but would you say that women getting more sleep does in fact help libido? 24:30Speaker 3 So I had a look at that and it comes from it. I think it was twenty fourteen or twenty eighteen paper. Well, extra sleep would help a lot of things. It certainly helps your energy levels and just your ability to do a lot of things during that day. So I certainly agree if you get good sleep, it was going to help. 24:50Speaker 1 There are lots of women online now who seem very concerned that maybe the oral contraceptive pill might be interrupting their libido. Do we have any research that proves that or disproves that? 25:02Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, so there is there is research. The thing about the oral contraceptive pill is that it increases something called serum hormone binding globulin in your body. And as the name suggests, it binds hormone and so therefore your hormone is not available to you, and in particular, it binds testosterone. Women only have a tiny amount of testosterone. So for example, we say women normal amounts of testosterone is less than two for women, whereas men, you know, you're upwards of ten to ten to thirty, right, So we have tiny amounts. So for some women who have particular receptor types need more testosterone than others to get all of the testosterone functioning. Cells working, So that is true. 25:56Speaker 1 So you've mentioned a few times that a lot of the issues that you encounter with patients is probably a lack of communication, and that does often spring from being in a long term relationship. So would you say that therapy can actually help libido? 26:13Speaker 3 Yes, it can, and I think therapy with the partner is really important. You have a lot of women coming in who want to work on it alone because they believe it's their problem. The thing is, it's a couple's issue. The thing that reduces women's libido or desire the most is actually a long term relationship. So the easiest way to increase your desire is to get a new partner, and that's not really, it might be for some women they may actually need a new partner, but for a lot of women that's not an option. You need your partner to be involved to understand what's going on, because you know, people don't talk about sex very often, and so you go into a relationship it's all good sexually, you have your spontaneous arousal and fireworks go. But you're together for a while and it's not spontaneous anymore, and then it's the understanding of what she has to understand what she needs. That's hard enough as it is, let alone trying to communicate that to a partner, and we fall into these sexual scripts where we tend to do the same thing sort of every time, and it's very hard to get out of that. So, for example, you know, like I said, men often have more spontaneous arousal. They'll get home from work and partner is there and hey, she's pretty, let's do it. Whereas for her, it's not quite like that. In a lot of circumstances, and women may have spontaneous desire, but a lot of women may actually start their their sexual encounter somewhere else. Some women need emotional intimacy, you know, so they need shells of love and encouragement to get into that cycle. Some women just need to be touched, right, and maybe he's learned to touch her and ways that are really counter productive for her. But it's too hard to say otherwise and to sort of redirect the touching to what she prefers. And some women actually will start at orgasm before they have any spontaneous arousal kind of I'm difficult to understand if you're not one of those women. But you know, there's some women who will say, Okay, we'll just get into it, because I know once I get going, I have my orgasms. Then yeah, okay, I'm feeling it now, let's do this again. And of course there's those usual things of time factors, stress, children, needing a quiet space, needing to wind down. 28:40Speaker 1 What would you say to someone who is listening to this right now and thinks, yeah, I'm really struggling with this. What are the first steps that she can take? And when should she look at getting professional medical help with libido? 28:54Speaker 3 I think if she's got chronic disease, diseases on medication, it's worthwhile talking to the doctor. You know, is there a medication I'm on that's not helping. Often the main culprit can be antidepressants, you know, SSRIs that tends to reduce your desire, and if for a lot of women that can really produce an orgasmia of difficulty reaching orgasm, or not reaching orgasm at all, because it blocks a lot of pathways in that respect. Might be something as simple as changing medication perhaps, but if you’re otherwise fit and healthy, I think if you can actually talk to your partner, that's a really good start. And that's a really difficult, difficult conversation to have. And of course we're really talking about relationships that are respectful and loving as well. If you're talking about relationships that are coercive or violent or just have some bad history, I think that's another sort of route of counseling as well. 30:02Speaker 1 So Mariam does seem that communication seems to be the key here if your lack of libido or desire is not influenced by a chronic disease. But why is this so scary to talk about? Do you think? 30:13Speaker 2 I think as we were never taught how so, like most of us grew up with silence around sex and intimacy. Maybe we had some anatomy classes in school, maybe a warning about pregnancy or but there was never any teaching about pleasure connection or emotional intimacy. So when we try to talk about it as adults, it feels like we're vulnerable and we're exposing something deeply personal. Maybe we should be ashamed about it, maybe it will be judged for it And there's that fear of rejection or am I going to hurt this person's feelings because they're not providing for me the way that I want them too. 30:51Speaker 1 What if they like something that I don't like, is that going to be a deal breaker? 30:54Speaker 2 But the irony is as we try to avoid it, the bigger that gap comes. And the couples who thrive aren't the ones to have perfect sex lives. They're the ones who can talk about it without that shame or that fear of judgment. So I would just start small, sit down and say, hey, we need to talk about sex, or you can start with hay, I miss feeling close to Can we try something different, Keep it curious, not critical, because at the end of the day, communication is foreplay. Well it is for me anyway. Yeah, and in my limited experience, it is how desire grows. 31:30Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, yeah, let's start talking friends. You never know what the outcome might be. Might be something might be an orgasm, might be an orgasm, and that would be fabulous. 31:38Speaker 2 That would be fabulous. 31:40Speaker 1 Next, Catherine isn't ready for babies like situationally or financially, but she cannot stop thinking about it. We’ll get some help for her next. Okay, doc, do you think it's quick consult time? The doctor will see you now. Just through here to consult room one. 32:03Speaker 2 Thanks for waiting. How can I help you? 32:05Speaker 1 Remember. If you want to get a question to the good doctor here, you can do it by sending us an email well at Mamamia dot com dot AU. You can do what Catherine did and hit us up on our Instagram DMS, or you can do it by the waiting room. It's an online form that you can find the link to in our show notes. Very easy. I get Catherine's filling that clock a tick in want some advice on what to do to drown it out for a bit. Here we go, she wrote. 32:26Speaker 4 I'm twenty seven and my partner is thirty seven. We're just about to finish building our first home together and are wanting to start a family in the near future. However, the prospect of not being able to get pregnant gives me great anxiety almost daily. I have no family history of trouble getting pregnant or any reason to be concerned, but it hangs over my head most days. I'm almost tempted to start trying straight away, even though we ideally would like to wait a few years to settle ourselves financially, simply just to know one way or the other if I can or can't get pregnant. My partner suggested maybe it's worth speaking to my doctor and getting some tests done to find out if we do have anything to be concerned about. My question is what should I be asking to get tested for to understand my fertility? And is it just me that should be getting tests done or should my partner also be looking into it? 33:12Speaker 2 Okay, First of all, you are not alone in this sphere. I see so many women in their twenties. We're thinking about babies one day, not right now, but the what if I can't get pregnant voices living rent free in their brain, And it makes sense. Fertility is one of those topics that gets whispered about. It's rarely explained properly, and the horror stories always travel further than the normal ones. Here's the deal. You're twenty seven. You've got no red flags from what you've told me, medically, no family history suggesting issues, so on paper, your body's not secretly plotting against you. But anxiety we know it doesn't care about logic. So I always tell people preconception screens. You know, whether it's a year or two or three prior is always a good idea. Baseline tests might help settle your mind and that's completely reasonable. For you,hat generally means a general health a reproductive screen. We'll look at your ovulation patterns, and sometimes we may do an AMH level, which gives a rough idea of your ovarian reserve. Saying that it's rough because it's not a crystal ball. 34:21Speaker 1 No one goes into one, two, three, four, how many eggs are in this. 34:26Speaker 2 It doesn't tell us if you can or can't get pregnant. It just gives context. So you could have really high numbers and still have issues with fertility. You can have really small numbers and have really great egg quality. And fertility is a team sport. I need to say it takes two to tango. If you're exploring this early, it absolutely makes sense for your partner to be included. A simple Semon analysis is cheap, quick and gives a lot of great information, and also a general health check with your partner is also required. Men's age does matter as well. We pretend sperm stays young forever, but as men get older, motility, shape and DNA quality can dip a bit. Your partner is thirty seven, still very much in the fertile age range, but if you're doing checks he definitely needs to be part of the picture too. Most importantly, I would say, don't feel pressured to start trying just because you're ready to silence the What if at twenty seven you're biologically in a really favorable window. If some basic tests give you peace of mind, fantastic, go ahead and do them, but bring your partner into that conversation o future parenthood is a joint project, it's not solo investigation. And remember, worrying about fertility doesn't mean something is wrong. It means you're human. You're planning a life chapter and your brain's trying to get ahead of the story. So chat with your GP. But if you feel like this anxiety's just kind of popping up day to day, I think that's also worth exploring with your doctor. 35:55Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe doing some tests will put your mind at ease, but bear in mind too that sometimes doing those tests might increase your anxiety. 36:04Speaker 2 Yeah, especially if you know we uncover something. 36:06Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, so you might want to just factor that in yeah too. 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Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brednick, and I'm Free Player, executive producer of Mamma MIA's interview podcast No Filter, and former fashion magazine editor. Yes, you're always my partner in crime for these red carpet episodes in dcause we both have hot takes. They're usually very different we do. We often have very like opposing ideas. Yes, what was best, what was worse? And we've been avoiding each other in the office all day. Yeah, we had to yell at each other get away from me because we didn't want to. We didn't want to have a donation. Don't even look at it. You can look at me. We didn't want to have the conversation away from the mic. So if you are listening to this, it means you probably listen to our Met Gala little teaser that dropped in the feed earlier today, because we're dropping this episode a little bit later. Because with the Met car there's so many dresses and there's so many interviews, and then celebrities release their own like look books and updates afterwards. So we needed to bring the people boots on the ground. Journalism with all the looks. So that's why we're coming to you today with our special slightly later episode. Now before we jump into the best, worst, most disastrous, most surprising, most sentimental looks of the day, it's a broad, broad range of looks we're getting into. If you want to see the looks, if you want to actually have the photos in front of you, you can go and listen to us on Apple Podcasts where we're on videos, so you can watch us delightful, watch my face get veteran, veteran rhetoric as I get more excited and overwhelmed. Or you can go and look at all the photos in a gallery on Instagram. So just search the Spill podcast on Instagram. The gallery will be clearly labeled in order of how we're speaking about the looks, so you can follow along and see them all there. Okay, without further ad you, well, our first look is kind of a shared one because we want to just start things off with a bang, and that is Miss Beyonce, who came to the Met Gala for the first time. It was it ten years in over a decade. It's just like so exciting to see her back on the Met Gala. Red carpet, which of course is not red. Let's let's start off by saying, give there a carpet. I love the carpet non red. Okay, this might be the only thing. This might be the thing weiss best dressed to the night is the carpet. I loved it. I did a little moss between Yeah. Yeah, they looked like it was like fake but beautifully done. Yeah, very artistic. Really, and let's bring this to the forefront as well. The theme for this U's met Gala is about fashion being art Yes, so costume costume. So what we get to see is not only like the setting, which is why it's not just your standard red carpet being very artistic and very creative. Is the clothes then on it? And I thought, yeah, the way that it looked this time, it was kind of like it's like a beigey sort of cobblestony, Yes, cobblestony, with like the moss between it. And they had all the beautiful kind of draping again coming down the ceiling. It was creamy it was, and greens and purple it was. It was beautiful, which I thought was such a beautiful backdrop to put all the clothes on as well. Yeah, because sometimes the stairs look lovely, but once you get a dress on them, they cancel each other out. Yeah, like remember the pink here the camp Yeah nine much like it was gorgeous, but then some outfits just didn't work. Yeah, no, no, And that's why celebs are releasing their own They're having their own photo shoots first and releasing them because they're like, I can't trust the lighting and any red carpet, but especially the met gala. Can't trust the lighting, can't trust the background. So okay, and that's the thing. As everyone took their photo, that was the bit where the steps before they became green, they were in that beautiful cream color, which is not a nice backdrop for all the dresses. So we had Beyonce rock up has it been there in ten years? And she was wearing a diamond encrusted dress that looked like a skeleton, so it had like the rib cage and like the pelvis and her hands were skeleton kind of a vibe. And I guess that's to show like the body in its like most like basic form a skeleton, a skeleton. And that's what part of the theme was, was showing the body as well, and the body being kind of the basis for art, so as you say, skeleton is the body stripped back to its most basic form. But I mean, of course, because it's Beyonce. It's jewel encrusted and it's incredible. And then she wore this long feathered cake. Yeah, incredible, that dreaped and then the head piece as well. I mean it's Beyonce, She's always going to bring the dru Yeah. Some people are like, oh, she could have lost the head piece and it's like, no, no, the head piece and it was Olivia Rousting, wasn't it. He used to be from Balmain, who's like she's worked with him before. Yes, she's won a lot of Almaine over the years, so yeah, it wasn't surprising that that's who dressed it. I felt, yes, but I think she looked glorious and I loved that she showed up with her gorgeous, gorgeous best accessory, her daughter. Yes, it was a night for daughters. Yes, Nicole kim And was toting one of her daughters down the red carpet and then Beyonce did it. But Blue Ivy, her oldest daughter who's fourteen now, and I think she actually looked like appropriately dressed for fourteen year olds. I do too. There was a lot anund the office. It's about you know, her being on the on the carpet anyway, and at this event, and you know, these experiences that these really young girls are getting to have. But I thought she I agree, I thought she looked age appropriate and so so gorgeousful so much like her mother. Yeah, that was such a moment because the Beyonce floated up and everyone gass and then Blue Ivy floated behind her, and then they had their moment, and they had their moment together, and then jay Z ran up and and then he was in there and but then they obviously I actually feel like as a family they practiced in the mirror at home because when they got into their first formation for their first photo, they just all I did. Yeah, they just instantly got into the right places and held a pose. And I was like, well, you guys have been practicing that the family living room. Yeah, and I appreciate that level of And Beyonce is a co chair this year. What's interesting is the timing of Beyonces arrived. Yes, if you'll notice all the other co chairs arrived at the top of the top of the day, which is kind of usually, which is how it goes, because they meant to greet people as they come in. Yes, that's part of it. They meant to greet people as they come in. Beyonce has ascended above that level where she is not a greeter. No, they had She's up stairs and being like, hik so much for coming to our party, thanks for coming for a little shin dig Like, no, Beyonce is not doing that. Her arrival was such a moment. It really was. Okay, who else did you go? Because we get week spend an hour on everyone fifty looks to get through. Okay, I'm going to start strut with my favorite of the whole night, and you won't be surprised by this, I don't think. Okay. My favorite was Oh, Sabrina Carpenter. Yes, Sabrina was in Dior. She's been wearing a lot of Dior lately. Jonathan Anderson, who was at Louerva, is now in the House of Dior and doing the most incredible job. Because there has been like quite a shuffle in the last couple of years in the design houses, where like there were designers in certain houses that felt a little bit mislike. Now, I'm not saying he was amazing at Louerva. He did a great job there, but I do feel like what he is doing at Dior is what should be happening at Dior. So I was very excited for this year's met Gala because I feel like after years of kind of the wrong creative directors being in the houses that I felt maybe were they weren't aligned to, or that there were people in those roles that maybe weren't doing the best job interesting for those houses, the dust is settled, and I feel like this is the first time in a few years where the right designers are in the right house the levels. It's like the right house Game of Thrones. It has been a bit of a fashion game of Thrones in the last couple of years. So anyway, I was excited to see I thought Sabrina would wear deal because she's been wearing so much of it lately and she is somewhat like aligned with the house as well. But I was very excited to see what she's wearing now. The gown she's wearing is made of film strips, and the film is of course Sabrina, but the Audrey Hetburn Sabrina. Yes, here's an upsetting fact about me is that Sabrina is one of my favorite movies. But you like the well do you know what? You know what? Okay, but that is usually trees in. It's because obviously, if anyone hasn't seen the Audrey Hepburn movie Sabrina, watch it. It's incredible. But I personally prefer the Julia ormand Harrison Ford Sabrina, which I know is film blasting, you know what, it might be film blasphemy, but I think there's a place for both of them. But it's a place they're both exquisite felt exactly. But I just when I saw the detailing that it was film stills from Sabrina, I nearly lost my mind. That's the most beautiful touch. It's so beautiful. And I love that Sabrina went as Sabrina, but as Sabrina but in this like majorly artistic iteration. Also, and because I am such a swifty fan girl, I'm gonna just say that she's gone a bit show girl this year. And of course she features on Little Maybe with the head Piece a little not to her mentor, but also she features on Life of a show the track title from the album. So look, I'm not saying, oh, you think it's like, well, look, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. It was like a nice little thing. But you're saying it's like shot fired. No no, no, God, no, no, no, we start no Brina and Taylor fe on. I'm not saying that Sabrina's outfit is for like an Easter egg, that this is coming with Taylor's sweet I'm not saying that. But I'm not not saying that the video clips. I'm just you know, last year, Sabrina on the met Gala carpet looked very pop star. This year she looks very showgirl. That's all I'm saying. That's all you're saying. That's all I'm saying. And you can, guys can read into that what you will, what you will. All Right. My next one, it's not a favorite, but it's just one we must discuss. Well, it's kind of a favorite because I appreciate how much this woman takes this seriously, puts her life in the lives of other people on the line, and how much she sticks to the theme. And that is Miss Kimberly Noel Kardashian did you not like it? No? Okay, well let me tell you a backstory maybe then you will. So she worked with British pop artist Alan Jones and Patrick Whittaker on this piece. So it's a golden breastplate for anyone who needs is listening to this just as a podcast, no judgment. It's a golden breastplate. But it has like the high silhouette neck and the cone bra, so we've got a real pointing nipple happening, very sculpted abs and a belly button. And it was craft did from a model in the sixties, which I thought was interesting because she said at first they were thinking like, would they do a mold of her body, which out of everyone, she kind of could have gotten away with because her body is like her cooling cart, and that's why she once walked the red carpet with her face covered because you can just see her body, you know it's her. But they decided to get the body model of a sixties model, and then it was this is the only disappointing thing is that the original look was going to be a full on sculptured suit all the way down, and so they've taken like the legs and the bottom half off and have done that detachable skirt, which is fine, but I feel like it does kind of take away from I would have loved to see her walk down in a fully sculptured suit, like a very old school robotic kind of like end of the World's sci fi vibes. So that's my problem with Oh, that's your problem. That is actually that is actually my problem with it. I think from the waist up absolutely incredible, Yes, And I just wish that it had committed the whole way. It's like she got no I mean I think no, I she didn't get nervous Kim Cush, she doesn't get nervous about I actually wanted her to make more. I think she's one of the few people who because she is always dressed so high fashion, she is not afraid to not be like the prettiest on the night, but be the most headline making And I usually like that about it exactly, and particularly with the met Gala, She's not. There are years where she does not prioritize pretty or sexy. She prioritizes creating a moment. Yeah. I wouldn't even necessarily say she prioritizes the fashion. Yeah, because I feel like it's more moment led with her exactly. Actually it's a headline interest in fashion, and we like that. But that's what she does, and she does it so well. I don't think she did it this year. Yeah, I appreciate the thought behind it. If you go to her Instagram, she's done a huge behind the scenes, like almost her own magazine photo editorial spread to explain the look. And when you see all that and you read it, it makes more sense. But I do wish maybe she'd just gone with the full look, but also the top part, the bones and the bra and everything was finished in autobody shop. So some men who work on cars hameadat and I love that. And I hope they know it's at the met Gala. They would have loved that. Okay, who's your next person? I am going to talk about Tana Taylor? Oh my god? Yes, I had her on my list, Yes, of course. Okay, so there we go. I feel like we're actually aligned on quite a few. Yeah. Yeah, spen too early to tell you now. I love it. It's like crazy. My first thought was she looked like she was like high fashion escapee from Whoville. Yeah, but it's incredible. It's like for anyone listening, of course, it's like silver fringing that is from the hood right down to a train and like it's long sleeve. She was really feeling it. She was swishing, swishing, swishing, and she was taking the shots. I'm glad you brought that up because obviously we had the met gala up in the office here and there's about fifty people gathered around it watching every second. And when she was swishing her head around, Everyone's like, oh, no, she can't see she's getting annoyed by it. And I was like, no, no, guys, she's showing the move No, she's showing the movement. And she's doing a photos wanting to get photos that show it from like every angle. And when something is artistic in the way that it moves, you've got to really show it on the carpet, which she did. So this was tom Ford incredible. I just felt like it was such a moment. It was also I felt a bit of a fresh air after a lot of different other looks at after her big Red Carpet run when she was OSCAR nominated. Yeah, same material on her oscars. I mean, to the naked eye, the same sort of material on the train of her Oscars dress. But it's almost like her Oscars dress has morphed into this like beast and is now running free. That's why I thought when I saw it. Okay, moving on to someone who a lot of people are slamming her and putting her on worst dress. Look, because I'm not so much defending her. I just want to explain. And it's Margot Robbie in Chanel. Did you hate this? No? I don't hate it, Okayel, No, I would never know. No, I would never speak about my close personal fo Margo Robbie that way. I know you guys are pals. We are pals. I mean, for anyone listening, We're not actually pals. I've just hung out with her like two or three times. She would not remember me, but I refer to her as my close personal sofa, so I you know she. I mean, look, Margo can't not look stunning. She's so beautiful. The dress is very pretty. I feel like that would have been very pretty on any other red car, But I'm just not excited by it today. Hear the thing about her? I think also, I love every like everyone just like I mean, I know you've get it more thought than that. But everyone I'm seeing on in like Instagram and TikTok scrolling past this dress and going oh ugly and moving on. I was like, this took the Chanelle team seven hundred and sixty one hours to make, and everyone's just like, yuck, we hate it. But it's almost like a champagne gold strapless gown with this beautiful detail at the back. She also hasn't been to the Met Gala since twenty twenty three, so she doesn't go every year. But what I loved about this is that everyone's always expecting Margo Robbie to go really over the top of the Met Gala. But first and foremost, she is a businesswoman. I would say she's a businesswoman. She's a movie star girl right down the end, and she turns on the fashion in a huge way for her red carpets because one, she's the star of the show, but also she's marketing the movie. I mean, no one does red carpet promotion better than exactly no one does it better than her. And when she's at the Met Gala, she's not there to promote anything. She's not even promoting herself because she doesn't need to. She turns it on for a red carpet movie premiere because that's from usually from her production company, so that money is coming back to her in a good way. Like that's what she's there for. When she's at the met Gala, she's often just there to look pretty or and like comfortable as well, like she never wears. You never hear of Margot Robbie starving herself for six days wearing a corset lined with spikes, like you know, to help her up the stairs. No one ever helps her up the stairs. No one's looking at that saying, oh my gosh, how did she go to the bathroom there? Yeah, she's put loosing fancy, she said time. She's often, I think getting paid by the house, getting paid by the brand to be an ambassador, so she's still making money while she's there. But so many times I've seen these women, like on the red carpet the Met Gala, like feathers trains crazy, which we love, but like not being able to move, not being able to go to the bathroom for ten hours, having to be carried up the stairs, and in the background of the met Gala, you just always see Margot Robbie bound up the stairs looking happy. You know she's going straight to get a champagne because she can, because she's not there to make a spectacle of herself, because she does that for her movies. And I actually think that's a lovely way to be. And if I actually had a choice, I think I would. I would roll like that the way you don't want to go relaxed Australian. Yeah, it's like, you know, the nights that are about me, It's about me, the met Gala, it's about me. So you feel like off the back of the very like stylized Wuthering Heights rum. She just wanted to do something that was just be She was like, Chanell, you tell me what you want me to wear and pay me that feet and I will put that dress on and as long as I can move and it's all approved by Anna and whoever, I don't care, it's not my I think. Her vibe was like, it's none of my it's none of my business what I wear. And I love that for her. Okay, who else do you have? You know? What is it? Time? Can I talk? Oh my god? Can I tell you about the boys? Yeah? Yeah, please please talk about it, please hear it for the book. Okay, I am going to go you know what, I'm gonna surprise you and go straight for somber. Oh okay, okay in Valentino, like I does like that person, this detail, It is stunning. I would love to wear that. It is just so glorious. It's because Share was there, but he looks more share, more share than Share. Oh my god, I wish Share had worn this. Well, they could have done a double act. I would have actually been so here for that. So it's like pants on the waist with full beating around the waistband, longline beating down the full length of the pants. Then we've got like a silk and laced blouse that's high neck, and then the most incredible cape that just brings it all together with just the crystals just flowing down it. This is Valentino my favorite because I love Alessandro Magula formerly of Gucci. Now he is responsible for my favorite meal look of all time, which was in eighteen was The Heavenly Bodies the Catholic Church. Oh yes, yes, okay, so a beautiful confusing time for the beautiful confusing time for everyone. But the best met Gala oh, absolute, literally ever and my favorite was Lama del Rey, Jared Leto and Alessandra mccallay, Yes, showing up together in that like ensemble. I mean, it was just incredible. I don't think anyone has ever reached that since I don't think anyone will, but so I always look forward to what you know, and Alessandro is going to bring to the Red Carpet with ary designs and I was really excited to see that this year on Somber. I thought it looked exquisite. Okay, we love the boys, we love the boys they put Efor in. All Right, while we're talking about boys, let's talk about our hated rivalry. Gorgeous boys, Connor Story and Hudson Williams, because both of them rocked up to the Red Carpet this year. Now, I love that they're there, the meteoric rise of these guys and the show is just being so incredible that they're everywhere. They were all over Award season, they are now on the met Gala carpet. But were you disappointed they didn't actually walk down together? I mean, would you think it would have been too much? No? I mean they're not they're not promoing their show right now, they could have just done the girls and the people saying, you know what, they will, We'll get something out of the day. There'll be something, so you know, they they know where their breast. But that's what I just saw, everyone just like hunting through the images and through the videos desperate to find like a moment that they were together, or they'll get one and it might be it might be at the after party, but we'll get one, don't you worry. So Hudson was in Balenciaga and it was like super super super detailed. Have you had a good look at it? Let me let me. I'm gonna be so honest that I was just looking at their faces. Yeah, show me the outfit. You're like, whatever, what are they? Those men to high had Okay, and that's totally that's totally fine, and I had I had a good crack at that too. But Hudson's eye maker was much talked about in the office. It was kind of a big Euphoria esque with the with the eye makeup, but it looks Euphoria Season one back when the I makeup was fantastic. So in like a powder blue suit and there's like black detailing beaded and then this kind of cap skirt s He's got a train, a train. He's got a train. He took a leaf out of Beyonce's book and he's like, I'm having a train. He's like, I'm having a train. I want my moment on the steps. And then Connor in Saint Laurent, this incredible blouse showing off those guns. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Are insane, and he's got almost me. I feel like I had that top when I was like fifteen. It's like a Poka dot hole today, but my arms didn't look like that. These arms look like they're the Hulk. And it's got it's got a lot. He's got a train as well. So I'm just gonna show see a Poka dot comes all the way down. Now. He actually came with a blazer on over the top, and he knows what we want. He did half reveal. He did a red carpet reveal of the arms. I mean, I guess the blouse, but like whatever of the arms. Now he's wearing Saint Laurent. A lot of people are in Saint Laurent on the red carpet because Anthony Vacarello is one of the coachairs who is the designer for Saint Laurent. So we saw like Zoe Kravitz, Charlie XCX, like there's a lot on the carpet who were rocking in that designer. We love Okay, okay, rapid fire through a few more because guys, there's so many good looks. I just want to give a shout out to Doughci who wore custom Mark Jacobs and she looked gorgeous in the eggplant color, this like headpiece, kind of like rising up to the sky. But my favorite detail about her is that she didn't want to my heels, so she got her feet painted in a beautiful Hannah design, wore anklets, and then tiptoed barefoot down the entire carpet, and then tiptoed up the red carpet. See, and that is move And that is a level of calf strength that I cannot imagine is hard. Tiptoeing is hard, tipto the whole way. If there was a flat footed moment from that girl, I did not see it. Surely she's flat footed inside or maybe she's wearing a shoe inside. What are the rules around being barefoot? And I just findin Anna winter going, Oh you've got a shoe ear right? Well, you know what at Chanelle Cruz's show last week, the girls were walking down the carpet barefoot. Fine, it's it's it's like on trend to be bare foot. Yeah, and then you've got like men like Quentin Tarantino who just like, let me put that in my movies. He's taking screenshop. Okay. Kendall Jenner in Gap Studio by Zach Posen. This is an interesting one. Can She and Kylie Jenna looked a little matching. They both had almost that kind of like nude look at the top, but Kendall's is modeled off a Gap T shirt and then she's got like a little fake nipple poking out and then just kind of cream beige draping of the dress. So Kendall and Kylie also especially Kendall, liked to make a headline with their outfits. Do you think this was as a headline inducing you're like, num, No, I don't actually think none of them are getting a headline this year. No, that it wasn't. Actually reason why I believe that they're invited is because they do get those headlines, and I think they were all really underwhelming this year. I mean, she's like, she looks pretty, she is pretty, She's a very gorgeous girl. But I'm just not excited by that is Yeah. I think the Genas and Kardashians, they just have the most enormous cultural currency, so I feel like that's why they'll always be invited. But I almost maybe liked Kylie's play on a little bit better. I know they're completely different designs, but she had the kind of almost like a nude top and then it was like the body undress of the skirt forward. Yeah, I preferred Kylie's as well. I thought she was more of a moment and worked with the theme yes better. What I did think was interesting about Kylie was that her boyfriend did not attend No you know where he was, Yes, And that's so fair, you know why, because Timothy Shallon May doesn't go to anything where he's not the star. That's his thing. The like the Kardashians and the Genders very much like they the significance of the moment, their red carpet looks, and I know they all work so intently with their designers and like they really care about the fashion side of it. Timothy Charalamayne cares about being seen as a movie star, which is so fair enough, but he doesn't really go to events, especially where he is now, like he has previously when he was trying to build up his capital and build up his absolutely in for me. But at the moment he's in now, he's going to go to a next game anything, and he's not a nominating else missing. Who so Kravitz's boyfriend slash fiance. Yeah, but Harry Style again everyone that they're going to walk together. No, I never thought they were, as you know, long time Harry Styles fan. I didn't expect to see him there either, And I think if he was going, we would have heard about it in advance, it would have been named, you know. But he's also about to start his world tour, so he's busy, and he famously gets tired. That's why he's making everyone the tour come to him. Right. Oh, yeah, he's not city hobby. No, he's not city hop he's too tired to go to Metguala. Yeah for a week. Yeah, he's reserving his energy. Okay, I need to quickly talk about a boy before we get into my favorite boy of the night, Bad buddy, is that I'm sorry, Is that not the weirdly hottest thing you've ever seen? Hey? Yeah, but I don't know whether I'm just like going through a real old man moment at the moment because I've been like really into the guys. So I'm really you haven't watched well, you haven't watched the Pit. No, because I'm I can't do enough. I can only watch grays Anatomy, just the lift, kissing scene something else. There's hardly any medical, like compared to the Pit, there's hardly any medical and graz Now No, that's why I like it. I can understand why you're avoiding it. But yeah, look, because I'm having such an old man moment at the moment, Like, yeah, I was excited to see a bit of great on the car so bad Bunny is wearing Zara and just you can just imagine her like running on them proves all the looks, you know what. I think what will be really interesting is Zara probably advertising in Vogue at the moment, to be honest, so she had to let she had to let someone wear it. Yeah, exactly. And obviously Zara was a big part of his Super Bowl halftime show, but Bad Bunny has aged himself here because I guess one of the part of the exhibition theme is different bodies, so like bodies are different size as shapes and ages. But he's the only one that I saw who really took the aging thing and ran with it. He's wearing prosthetics to make him look maybe seventy or eighty. It's really interesting because like everyone in Hollywood tries to look so much younger than they are. Everyone is on this like strive to look as young as possible, and like, no judgment because I'm I'm the same, but but I love that he went the opposite. Yeah, exactly. But the thing is men can do that because men tend to be like, oh, a silver fox when they get older, like he's he's sixty, Like let him dated twenty five year old and win an oscar because he's just getting started at sixty. But the thing he's in his next act exactly, he's just more, you know, kind of well weather worn. Now, whereas women it's like you're thirty, get out of here. So there's that side of it. But I've decided just to let the feminism leave my body for this because Bad Bunny looks so hot, and also he does you can did it? Yeah? I mean that's not terrible. Yeah, some people don't age well, yeah, I know the weakd I would have thought that he would have looked to the mirror and actually, wait, this isn't working there. I don't look back. But he looks hot and also bad bunny hot? Is it? Maybe you can because you can feel his rippling muscles and sexuality try trying to break free of the old man. And I appreciate a funny guy. And he was in character all the way up the stairs and he was walking with the walking cane and he was interviewed in character. I love it. I think it's no I agree, And I think it's really hard for a man to have a moment on me because it's hard for them, because it's not for them. And how do you compete when Beyonce rocks up with the train, Yeah, like still jammed in the car door while she's halfway up the stairs exactly, But he did it. He has something that everyone's talking about. Oh man, everywhere, we love it. Okay, who else you got? Okay? Well, speaking of making a massive moment, Yeah, we need to talk about Madonna. Okay, now, this is not all of Madonna's look. I couldn't fit it on the eye on the way. I think I've got a wide shot. We can do it, can we? We can do a jewel Hold up for this because I'm missing seven accessories, which is in the form of seven stunning women. I've been calling them Madonna and the Pips, but that's not even accurate because there are way too many girls for it to be Pips. There we go, see, Oh my god, I loved this so much, and seven people holding out this beautiful train and I love that because they're so strict on the Metgala red carpet, And that's why selbs look so scared a lot of the time, because usually if you're famous enough to be at the met Gala, then you're famous enough to travel with an entourage, and you normally never walk a red carpet or even walk into a room without your manager and your publicist and your assistant. But no one gets to bring their team down the red carpet because the guest list is so tight, So the sleds have to stand by themselves in a line. It's the first time they're ever alone in their lives. And then they have to walk the red carpet by themselves, and most of them, because they're socially awkward, are terrified. So I love that no one gets a plus one, but Madonna gets seven plus seven seven servants slash maidens. It was giving a bit handmaiden but okay, so she's in Saint Laurent. It is the head piece. I love. The head piece is incredible. It's a ship. It kind of looks like. Helped me out here because I've never seen it, but I've been on the ride a lot at Disneyland. Yeah, the Pirates, the Pirates, the Caribbean, the what's the what's the one like the one that the captain Jacksbury is his ship? Yeah, I could not tell you that. I thought it looks like more like the ship from Noserati. That's where my head goes. Oh yeah, okay, well that too. Well it's a it's a bad baddie pirate. Yeah, we're we're not good on the pirate lingo. But like, it's this incredible head piece. Off it is draight, like long, long, long pieces of gray fabric that these women are all holding out and then she comes down in this like black dress. She's holding it looks like kind of like a trumpet the piece that she's holding. And what I did love seeing as well was she walked up the stairs, glided up the stairs with these women helping her along up the stairs. But then about fifteen minutes later you see the seven women. They all came running down to leave, so they kind of like fairies fleeing like a sort of like midnight fairy like festival. So they were allowed on the carpet, but not inside. No, absolutely not no, And they were only there for the spectacle of the photos. They were all holding the different sections. The way they move was like a choreographed dance around her, so that the dress was never twisted. They all had like pieces of lace covering their eyes, and it was the whole look so like the dress, the head piece, the way her hair was styled, all the women. It was in reference to that surrealist female painter Leonora Carrington, who was the inspiration for Bedtime Story right the music video from nineteen ninety four. So that is so incredible that they went and like looked back. The detail is just like, honestly pretty much I would say almost my winner of the night because of the deep because of the details and the reference back and I love that they use like it does reference an artist, but it also then references Madonna as an artist as well. Yeah, because that's her. Like I just I can't stop reading the Everyone on her team gave an interview and I'm like, that's correct. Well, there should be seventeen interviews from seventeen different people who put this look together. Imagine how hard the Saint Laurent team had to work to do all of these outfits. Yeah, because you've got all the people, like the handmade into a holding, the dresses, and like the way there has styled a makeup. Even her hairdresser said that they specifically made her hair dark brown, not black, very undone, very untouched, and made it look that like the hair looked lived in, much like Madonna herself. And I was like, get out of here with that. I love that so good, incredible. Okay, this one, I would not say it's my fave, but I think it's a talked about one and I appreciate it. It was a departure from her normal basic black column gown look and it's Hailey er. Do you know what. I absolutely agree. I normally don't have particularly have time for her. And I'm like, I read because she's not a red carpet girl, she's a street style girl. Yeah, but I think she thinks she's a red carpet girl, and a lot of people, well, I don't know. I think I really like someone tell her that's fine, that's not her currency. No, I look, look, I don't really have much time for Haley Beaver. Fine, I said it, be careful saying that in these means streets Sydney. I know, Sydney shut down when she arrives. I know. I don't think I could say it outside the walls of the studio, but you have to come into witness protection. But I'm just yeah, I just never I disliked her. But I know what you mean, Like, we don't understand. We did a whole episode of this, and I don't think we got to an answer the huge intense love and the fandom around her and nothing bad, Like I understand. But the thing is, like, there's lots of beautiful young women who have beautiful style and beautiful makeup and skin and share their lives online and people love them. And I understand all that about her, but whatever it is about her and who have celebrity marriages and who come from vapor totally. Whatever it is about her that has kicked her up to like the highest tier of that is what. I'm not white. I don't know. I don't I've asked so many people who love her and they can't even explain it. They're like, I don't know, I just love her. Yeah, I don't know, that's it. I don't know what her secret source is, but that's it. I don't think other people can name it either. Something about it. They love her, and you know, for a lot of people that's enough. But I agree, normally I am so just like I can't even really bothered to check what she's wearing on her carpet, right, but I thought she looks so absolutely exquisite. The colors, I think is what it is. I mean, hopefully she'll wear color going forward because it does suit her. So she's sewing Saint Laurent, as you said many people are, and it's a beautiful sculpted bodice that has like the breast and stomach detail, which a lot of people, including Kim Kardashian, did to some extent. But the difference with hers is that her sculpted bodice piece with the boobs is made completely of twenty four carrot gold, which is crazy. And then you have long blue chiffon skirt and also the kind of flowing neck piece around her. And apparently she's wearing a gladiator sandal. Oh but we can't see it, but they were in the I know, we'll have to go look at the video. In the video, she'll she'll show them the dress pulls up and she's wearing like a gladiator sandal. Which I'm not against those coming back. No, neither neither. Fifteen year on me is thrilled. No, I've still I've still got some in my coh. I don't throw anything out. I've got everything. Okay, great, so you're gonna be insion, I can pull them out. Okay, I've got someone I want to talk about. Okay, I want to talk about Annicole. Okay, so also a co chair tonight. So she was their first. So she was she's a rule follower because she's a real follower and she's got good manners and she wants to greet everyone. So she turned up first. She's wearing Chanel, so she's part of the Friend of Chanell House of Chanelle. You know she's she's a Chanel girl. She's a Chanelle girl throwing through. I love this color on her. I think she looks so so beautiful in this color. There's been a lot of chatter about her hair though, Oh okay, so I don't know if I have strong thoughts about the hair. So the dress is like this beautiful almost like a burgundy glittering, high necked, long sleeve dress. Beautiful train, and then like almost like a lighter red pomp pom esque feather detail pieces. So that's all beautiful, and she's got the height and everything to wear that. Do people not like the long straight blonde people aren't loving the hair, What do they want like a bum? I don't know. I think I think you need the hair with that. It's because she looks like she looks like a medieval princess with the way she's standing almost, with the cut of the dress and everything, and with that kind of like almost like mystical etherean legend kind of vibe. You need that long, flowing golden hair. Yeah, it would have looked too almost like too prissy with like a bun or Yeah, I think so too. I don't have a problem with the hair either. But there's been a lot of chatter online and also in this office, we're really driving everyone, well, this is just talking to us instantly, and we've like literally, we're like taking notes and we're like, will be the expert. I said nothing out there to anyone, so I just nodded when everyone spoke to me that I'm coming in here and being like and she said this, and I was like, well, this is the actual story anyway. I don't think the hair is that bad. No, general, I'm shocked by that. Do you know whose hair I don't like? You tell me? Oh? And I did screen this across the office. Okay, I just want Gracie Aprams to stop cutting her hair. Oh my god. Everyone was getting upset but again ragging the office. Everyone was like, what's with her hair? And I was like, but isn't that her whole thing? Because you've got to pick more of a pixie cut now, but kind of, I'm short, it's so so short. And I loved her with long hair. Also, I did love her Chinel dress. She looked really really, she did look beautiful. I think she's trying to, like rile against that traditional pop girl look and have like an edgy haircut, but then she pairs it with a pretty dress, and I think it's like, she is so pretty, she's got the cheek brown. Just because you've got the cheek bones doesn't mean you have to do it rest. Just because you can have like a weird bob cut doesn't mean you should. But I also if anyone, if anyone can, it's her fair. Okay, faves again, we can talk about this forever. So one of my all time faves, not just tonight at the Metgala, but in all walks of life. One of my fashion queens Gwendol and Christie, who of course people loved as Briann of Tarth in Game of Thrones, but also in so many other things, including recently in Wednesday on Netflix. Yes she, I mean, the thing is, she's just so statuesque and beautiful, and she's wearing this deep red gown with almost like a fish a mermaid train one shoulder, this beautiful head piece. But what I loved is she has a mask of her own face that she was holding up to people as she walked past them. And the look was designed by Giles Deacon, who was of course her lover. Her lover since I think twenty thirteen, officially, having a hot, fashioned boyfriend also makes you dresses. Yes, the dream, actually the dream. Yeah, where is that man? For the rest of us? Absolutely socially as a tall lady, like it's so hard, like not just model tall, but like tall tall. It's so hard. Sometime many spillers that don't know this. Yeah, Laura Brodnick is very tall. I'm tall. I stood next to Doing Christy once and I was like, this is what I dream of because we're in Like, she's tall than me. I'm joking. Of course everyone knows you're tall because you tell tall time. No one cares about my tall issues. And I'm just saying, it's hard to find a really good dress, and her boyfriend made her one. That's true love. Okay. Someone else I wanted to shout out quickly before we get into the last few big moments was Lena Dunnam in her beautiful Valentino gown. Yes, she looks like she's an escape from an old school Las Vegas casino, but I love that for her. And she was nervous about going to the metgala. She wrote about it because her body has been ridiculed over the years. She's on a big high now with everyone loving her memoir, and I just quite like this Valentino look. I only the only thing I kind of wish is like maybe the feathers weren't completely covering her face, because that looks unintentional. I agree, there's there is too much feathering around the face, and it is like it's obscuring our view of her, and not in a way that it looks like it's meant to no, Like it's not like she's wearing like that's part of the dress for her face. Use she's She's like, I can't see. Probably, I'm like, can you imagine they're probably tickling her nose and she's trying to say stuck in her lip glass. So I love seeing as well the call back to the Valentino rockstud heels on her. So they were seen in the Devil Wes praa promo I'm Miranda and people were like, oh, she would never wear Valentino rockstud heels, blah blah blah blah blah. Now yes, Valentino rockstard heels are back. I love that shoe. I'm so excited to see it back. And there's like a modern twist on it too, which Lena's wearing. And I think she looks fabulous, which is one thing I did notice about Lena, and I don't like. Look. I always think, you know, when you see celebrities on red carpets and they look so perfect, the skin looks so perfect. I'm like, oh, there's a little bruise on her leg, And I feel like whenever I go to any event, I'm always like, oh, I'm not trying to cover up a bruise or something like that. I'm like, thank god, there's a bruise on the red cart. She's got a little bruising on her leg, and you know that's when she probably bumped it. If she's like me, she bruises just by getting out of the car at the met game. And she's got her leg out and she's got the shoe out and she looks hot. Look. I'm so here for for like Lena's comeback. I love her. I love the work she does. I thought too Much was fantastic last year. I'm excited for more Lena. You know who we need to talk about Rihanna, the lady who almost missed the Red car, The lady who almost missed the Red she saw arriving last, and she was like, you know what, girl, I'm going to leave my hotel when they're packing up the carpet, which I pretty I could honestly say that is what happened. They had to reroll that carpet for this girl because I think they were actually sitting down to dinner when Rihanna arrived. And I love being late too, but like, yeah, she was altly really late, and I look, people are given her rival times for the Red Carpet, so either Rihanna did not look, did not care, or saw her arrival time and when no, no, no, I'm Rihanna the only celect who could really do that pretty much. I mean, but no, that's not true because Madonna could have done that, Beyonce could have Like this was the where they work. Actually, those high level celebs there that do not care what rules they're given. No, and no one's gonna tell Rihanna, Beyonce or Madonna what to do. Did Rihanna win? I don't know, because she kind of missed the Red Carpet coverage, so I feel like there was this ripple of like Rihanna's coming and it's like, is she really coming because the red carpet coverage has ended. She came, She's there. I think she came. Maybe just there is such thing maybe as being like unfashionably late, maybe because the photographers like, we've missed your mom. Obviously her photos went everywhere, but you're right, the excitement was kind of everyone was in like the carpet's finished, and all the newsrooms like, and now we get our articles up. Now we finished getting our stories up, and so it was kind of like she was a late addition. So she's wearing Marjella to twenty twenty five, and it's almost like she's got a wreath around her head, but it's almost like a silver like crinkled metallic. It's like a done metal sort of yeah, and it's almost like it's wrapping around her like she's some sort of a sea creature, like she's been pulled into a whirlpool. That's my official fashion take on that. I like it. I'm happy to go with that. But yeah, I mean she looks great, and you know what the thing is that she just rocks up being like I'm here, take my photo. I'll go when I want, and you're lucky to have me. Yeah, and we are, and we exactly we are. I just want to ask her what's it like not to be a people pleaser because I can't relate to that. Yeah, Okay. The last person we're going to talk about was perhaps the most surprising yest of the evening. I don't think anyone was expecting her to show up, but Blake Lively arrived on the red carpet looking absolutely exquisite, and she is such a Met Gala staple, and this moment I can't describe it, like yes, that there were these huge entrances that were saying like Madonna, Beyonce, all these moments, but her arrival felt like a scene from a movie or a scene from gossip Girl, you know how, like gossip Girl always has, like it would always the episodes culminate a big event when someone who'd been shunned from society or blackmailed walks into the event and everyone's like, oh, I didn't think they were going to be here. So so truly, Lively at the Met Gala was a real life you can hear a moment, i'd we can hear it, like good evening for East. Oh I'm back, I'm back. Guess who was back? And she was back in a big way, and she looked like Serena. She had the Serena hair going. She just like had you know, I mean, she's barely aged a day since then. Somehow she looked absolutely glorious. I think everything about her look was again not calculated, but I think she knew that her arrival would make crazy headlines, and so everything she was wearing, the way she spoke, her accessories were all geared towards sharing a very particular message, which is that she wants people to forget about the legal battle with Justin Baldoni. She wants to forget about the smear campaign, forget about what the last few years have been, and just remember her as queen of the Met Gala and like the movie star she is. Yeah, whether or not that landed with everyone, but that was very clearly the message. Look at won't people are so divided over black lives in so many people are committed to hating her. But I do think that she went a long way tonight in showing like who she is, being confident as well, Like I love that she just was like I'm showing up, I'm giving it my all. I'm going to look absolutely stunning, and I'm going to have my head held high and do what I do best, which is create this moment, yeah, and be a fashion icon. And the timing was quite incredible because the statement had only come out a few hours earlier that she and Justin Baldoni in I think quite a surprising term of events, considering the coverage and how that court case was going, that they had settled out of court. They released between their companies a joint statement saying that the settlement had happened, that it was going to remain private, so there's a good chance we'll never know the details of this settlement between them. But their statement was very much like we're proud of our movie, we're proud of the message, and basically move on and let's not let's pretend this never happened, which for the coverage that court case has got in the last few years and the fact that she did a tell all with the New York Time, and then he had a live website where he uploaded all his material on her, like the most public legal battle we've ever seen, and then them releasing a joint statement saying it's been settled. Away from the cameras, please don't talk about it. And then hours later her attending the biggest red carpet of the year, and there wasn't like you there's almost like an audible gasp from the crowd because she was there, and she hasn't been to the Met Gala for four years, and before that she was one of the queens of the Met Gala always you know, the big dress, the co chairing the event, best dressed, all those things. And then she came in and the gown is incredible. Some people thought again throwing me off to some of the bus. Some people thought it was too prince SSSI. But that's her look, right, that's her look. And it was actually really nice to see a PRINCESSI dress all the carpet, like you know, it's like the fantasy and it looks so beautiful. It was a two thousand and six Vasace dress archival piece. They had like reimagined it. They added a bit of fruit. They did had a bit of fruit at the end. And they're in like stunning pastor colors as like peaches and pale pis and violets, and it's so so pretty. The beating is gorgeous. When you look at the dress as well, like structurally around the skirt, it's so amazing, Yeah, paneling. She just looks so pretty in it. Her hair like the you know, it was like classic black life, classic curls, a huge train, jewels dripping off her. Just that idea like what the fashion girls would hate, like too much, but too much in a perfect way. And then I saw her. She think Tuney did one interview that I could see, and she did seem nervous, and I think she was really she was rushing out kind of like all the details of the design of the dress, the importance of it. She was crediting all the artists that she'd worked with, and in a way where she really wanted to be like, I'm just up here for the designer. I'm here for the artists, not here for me. But then she was also carrying this custom Judith liber bag and it had four sides to it, and each of the sides was a different artwork by one of her four children. Now there's some people out there that are like and the statement from Liba was, we love working with Blake. She's so creative. She's such an incredible like visionary. This is a beautiful tribute to her family and she was talking about her kids on the red carpet. Then there's the cynical people who was like, oh, look at her using her kids to distract from the fact that people hate her, Like she's trying to like use being a mother to like just you know, kind of like quiet in the noise. And I think that's probably a step too far. Look, I think it's a step too far, But I do think it's like it's such a safe conversation to have. So while I don't think that it was to kind of distract from the people who like, you know, she can't control that anyway, But what she can do when she's nervous and understandably so, is have a conversation on the red carpet that she feels comfortable with. She's in like an area where she feels good to talk about it. Yeah, And of course that's her children, and she's always talked about her children and brought them into her interviews and her life and everything like that. So you know, it felt correct for her, and it was always going to be a polarizing moment of her arriving. But look, I loved it because I love the drama. That's what the met gal is about the fashion, the drama, And what I think is so interesting is that of everyone that came and every headline at every moment, the one that everyone is going to be talking about is yeah, exactly, And what a way to re enter society post the legal dramas, but also to do it so quickly. Yeah. Day of She's like, we're not wasting any time. I'm back on the radar back. Do you think she would have gone had it not been finalized? No? I think she went because it was fine. They were able to get the settlement happened. They were able to agree on a joint statement and get it out on the day, which makes me think like was it targeted for the day or were they just scrambling at the last moment. I don't think she would have walked with that hanging over her head, because then she would have been seen as like a victim, and at least in this a victim either of people who support her or don't, Like there would have been a negative energy around her. At least with this, there's like this finality to it, like that is over and this is my new chapter. Like a debutante, she's reintroducing herself to society. And you know what, I'm so glad because it would have been such a shame if that dress had had to stay hanging in the Versace Itelier instead of being able to be on that carpet exactly. And that's what the day is about. That is what the day is about. Thank you for listening to The Spill today. Make sure you're following us on Instagram and TikTok to see all the looks that we covered today. The Spill is produced by Manicius Warren with video production by Michael Keane and we will see you next time. Bye bye, LaBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This morning, Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni have settled their lawsuit and the details are genuinely surprising. Plus, the Pussycat Dolls have cancelled their tour and apparently "Blue Dot Fever" is now a thing, and Kylie Jenner made a beauty decision at the Met Gala that she is already regretting. ☕ Kylie Jenner's eyebrows may never recover from the MET Gala ☕ Rebel Wilson welcomes her second daughter ☕ Blake Lively settles with Baldoni two weeks before trial ☕ The Pussycat Dolls cancel their entire US tour ☕ Maren Morris received a very suspicious text inviting her to Taylor Swift's wedding THE END BITSOnce you’ve devoured this morning’s celeb stories, get your daily news headlines from The Quicky here.You can now watch some of our episodes in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to seeLINK: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-spill/id1473523403Support independent women's mediaFollow us on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. And subscribe to our Youtube channel.Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia... here.Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here.CREDITSHost & Producer: Ash LondonExecutive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. You're listening to a Mom with mea podcast.00:17Speaker 2 Good morning, angels. I hope you woke up looking better than Kylie Jenno with one bleached eyebrow, because that is today's opening story, and I promise it gets better from Thereage London, and we have a jam packed one today. We've got the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni Stargut reaching a stunning conclusion. Rebel Wilson has welcomed her second daughter, the Pussycat Dolls who canceled their tour, and the phrase blue dot fever is about to become part of your vocabulary. And there's a very funny update on the Taylor Swift wedding situation. So let's pour the tea. First up, for the met gala, Kylie bleached her eyebrows to go with the custom Chaparrelli gown a new course with phone nipples and a heavily embellished pearl covered train that took eleven thousand hours of embroidery. The look was stunning. Eyebrows, however, did not survive the return journey. Kylie filmed herself on Instagram stories with one bleached ibra and one that had been died back, but kind of came out an orange brown, absolutely losing it with laughter. I'm okay, look cool, brows are royal?01:20Speaker 1 What is this?01:20Speaker 2 What is this? This looks horrible?01:26Speaker 1 You left her with no hair?01:28Speaker 2 Horrible. I still can't get over the eleven thousand hours of embroidery for one night. Fashion is truly unhinged people. Next time, Rebel Wilson and her wife Ramona have welcomed their second daughter, and she's named Rose Estelle. Rebel posted proud to announce the birth of our second daughter, Rose Astelle. What a gorgeous blessing to have another little girl now on May fourth, It's now four of us. Cute Ramona and I are feeling so incredibly grateful and blessed to go our family. The next day, Rebel share the sweet photo of big sister Royce holding baby Rose for the first time, captioning it Little Angels, The Stick Around, Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni have reached a settlement and the details are genuinely surprising. The Poissycat Dolls have counseled their tour, and the music industry has a new illness called blue Dot fever. Plus Aaron Morris received a very suspicious wedding invite. Welcome back to your morning tea. After more than a year of Hollywood's most public legal battle, Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni have settled two weeks before the trial was set to begin. Both sides released a joint statement saying the film is a source of pride to all of us and acknowledges that concerns raised by miss Lively deserved to be heard. The terms were not disclosed, but Tamz's reported that Blake received no money in the settlement. Last month, a judged throughout ten of Lively's thirteen claims, including all sexual harassment claims, leaving only breach of contract and retaliation. Legal experts say both sides face significant risk going to trial. No apology from Baldoni, no money for Blake, no trial, just to roumid sixty million dollars in legal fees. Yausers, There's a fascinating phenomenon gripping the live music industry right now called Blue Dot Fever, and it's affecting some of the biggest artists in the world, including Megan Trainer, Post Malone, and now the Pussycat Dolls. On the Ticketmaster w app unsold tickets show up as blue dots on a seating chart. Blue dot fever is when an artist anounces a tour, the blue dots never really go away and they eventually cancel and it's spreading. The newly from Pussycat Dolls had to cancel their entire US run, living only the European dates untouched. The way I see it, the class of living crisis is real. Concert ticket prices are extraordinary. People are making hard choices. The era of guaranteed demand for nostalgia tours is clearly over, and finally, country star Marion Morris has revealed that she received what appeared to be a fake text message inviting her to Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's wedding. It all went down like this, I'm serious in the States, I gotta ask, do you have any tea on the wedding? No, I mean person to ask. Come on.04:03Speaker 1 I got this like spam text a couple of weeks ago and it was like You're invited to Taylor and Travis's wedding. And I was like this, I'm blocking this because like there's no way they would send an invitation through, Like it's a text like this I mean why not. I was like, how how is this going to my number? The actual?04:22Speaker 2 Yeah? What if I just crashed it? Yeah, jim your phone, I'll tell you how to get it back. Just get it back to watch out World of spam text.04:30Speaker 1 Oh my gosh. Yeah, but I was like, how do they have my number? This is weird meeting, it's real?04:35Speaker 2 You know what that got sent to us?04:36Speaker 1 I would have clicked the link.04:38Speaker 2 I would end up.04:39Speaker 1 Yeah, the virus, Yeah, I got the viruses.04:41Speaker 2 Yeah, Marin. If it turns out that text was true and real and you deleted it, I'm so sorry. And also that would be hilarious. And that, my darlings. Is it for today's episode of Morning Tea. I have been your host and producer Ice London. Executive producer is Mini shit Is Warren. The girls will be in your feeds from three pm today with your daily deep dive and in the meantime. You know how to find us on Instagram, TikTok, check us a follow and stay up to date. Okay to tomorrow. Bye, Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land. 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This morning, Cameron Diaz has named her third baby and it is quite something, Britney Spears has walked out of court with a second chance, and the Spice Girls gave Leeds an absolute gift over the weekend. ☕ Cameron Diaz and Benji Madden welcome baby number three ☕ More baby news for Princess Eugenie ☕ Britney Spears avoids jail in her DUI case and her lawyer says she's doing well ☕ Kris Jenner wants to manage Robert Irwin, and Terri has thoughts ☕ Olivia Rodrigo roasts Jake Paul on SNL and he takes it like a champ ☕ Mel B crashes Mel C's Leeds show and the Spice Girls are briefly, gloriously back THE END BITSOnce you’ve devoured this morning’s celeb stories, get your daily news headlines from The Quicky here.You can now watch some of our episodes in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to seeLINK: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-spill/id1473523403Support independent women's mediaFollow us on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. And subscribe to our Youtube channel.Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia... here.Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here.CREDITSHost & Producer: Ash LondonExecutive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. You're listening to A'm Mom with Mia podcast. Good morning, angels. I hope you're glowing today because we have an absolutely jam packed episode. He just happened overnight. I'm gonna get you through. You just settle in, relax. I got you babes. Today, We've got baby news for two famous ladies. Brittany Spears Always Jail Time, Olivia Drigo versus Jake Paul and the Roasting Steaks and the Spice Girls give us a mini reunion in Leeds that has sent the Internet quietly feral. Let's pour the tea baby baby news to kick us off. Cameron Diaz and Benji Madden have welcomed their third child and announced it in the most adorable way. Benji posted to Instagram that he and Cameron are happy, excited, and feeling so blessed to announce the birth of our third child, Nautous Madden. Welcome to the world sun. The announcement came with the trading card graphic featuring a pirate ship and the meeting of the name Sailor Navigator Voyager, one who embarks on a journey and fears not the unknown. Karon and Benji are also parents to daughter Radix and son Cardinal two. So now they've got three kids under seven. Witches a lot. Cameron, who came out of a ten year Hollywood retirement last year, but back in action is clearly thriving on all fronts. Radix, Cardinal and Nortis Madam. They are committed to a theme and I respect it enormously. And more baby news, this one with royal flavor. Princess Eugenie and her husband Jack brooks Bank can be ever heard a richer name are expecting their third child. Buckingham Palace announced her Royal Highness Princess Eugenie and mister Jack brooks Bank are very pleased to announce that they are expecting their third child together due this summer. August, aged five and Ernest, age two are also very excited to have another sibling join the family. His Majesty the King has been informed and is delighted with the news. And next time. Britney spears a pete in court yesterday by her lawyer for her duy case and has avoided jail time. She pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of reckless driving involving alcohol and drugs and was sentenced to twelve months probation, fines, and must complete a three month DY course. The original dui charge has been dropped, but it's a tough one because obviously I want Brittany to be happy and healthy and not got a jail, but also driving while under the influence so incredibly dangerous. She was offered the deal because she has no prior DUI history, there was no crash, and she voluntarily checked herself into rehab straight after the rest. She completed that treatment last week. Let's hope she's an upward trajectory soon. Stick around when we return. Chris Jenna has her site set on a new client, and Jake Paul has responded to the roasting from Olivia Rodrigo on SNL Welcome Back to Morning Tea. Reports have emerged that Chris Jenna has her site set on Robert Erwin as her next management client, and insider says Chris is impressed by Robert's incredibly telegenic, wholesome, and authentic nature. However, Terry has reservations, specifically that she doesn't want Robert to come tabloid fodder. The source added, history has not been kind to the men who get involved with the Gardashians and Terry being the absolute icon. Geeze made her own feelings pretty clear with the Steve Irwin gala in Las Vegas over the weekend, joking about Robert's increasingly shirtless content, saying Steve never took his shirt off for wildlife. Yeah, well, respectfully, Terry, Steve didn't have fast delicious rig But I got to agree with Mamma Bear Chrisky is the most talented strategic manager on the planet. But our boy Robert is a precious, wholesome flower who must be protected at all costs quick ones to close us out, and they are both delightful in their own way. First, Olivia Rodrigue made her S ANDL hosting debut over the weekend absolutely smashed it. In an opening monologue, she called out her former Disney Channel co star Jake Paul. 03:50Speaker 2 We had an incredible cast, which included acting legend Jake Paul, and we'n always talk about our futures. Me and Jake, I'd say, I really want to create music that explores the complexities of girls my age, and he'd say, well, one day, I really want to beat up old guys on Netflix, and we both did it. Hooray. 04:11Speaker 1 Paul has responded on social media and it's a genuinely lovely response. He posted that they both had the vision and he said proud of you for real, adding when challenged, I got that she was making a joke at my expense. So watch she's on SNL and that's what they're supposed to do, Jake Paul. Being gracious and self aware is not something I expected to type today, but here we are. Lead The Spice Girls gave us well. A couple of the Spice Girls gave us a completely unexpected mini reunion in Leeds of the weekend, Melsey was performing at a show for her new album when she spotted Melby in the crowd and got her up friend cheeky sing along for me. My loves The Girls will be back any feed from three pm with this spill. My name is ex London. Hosted producer. 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The Met Gala is COMING, and a huge backlash is afoot. Plus, the Beckham family feud has hit a genuinely painful new low, and the early 2000s boyband moment we always knew we needed has arrived. ☕ Jeff Bezos paid HOW MUCH for his wife to co-chair the Met Gala? ☕ Brooklyn Beckham stays silent on David's 51st birthday ☕ Zayn Malik's worrying health scare signals a huge cancellation ☕ The Devil Wears Prada 2 cast are already teasing a third film ☕ The Rock gets in trouble with the law (and it's somehow still wholesome?) ☕ The boyband moment of or early 2000s dreams has finally arrived THE END BITSOnce you’ve devoured this morning’s celeb stories, get your daily news headlines from The Quicky here.You can now watch some of our episodes in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to seeLINK: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-spill/id1473523403Support independent women's mediaFollow us on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. And subscribe to our Youtube channel.Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia... here.Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here.CREDITSHost & Producer: Ash LondonExecutive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. You're listening to Amma mea podcast. Good Morning Angels, Happy Monday. A brand new week is upon us, and what a weekend it was. I'm Ash London and I have been trawling through the celebrity news since dawn because I love you that much. Today and the Met Gala is hours away, and there is a ten million dollar controversy you need to know about before it kicks off. The Beckham family feud has hit a painful new low. Zane Malick is unwell and has canceled the entire US tour. Now The Devil was prior to two casts have already been teasing, well kind of teasing a third film, and The Rock got pulled over by police after celebrating Emily Blunt and Stanley Tucci. Happy Monday. Let's pull the tea Tonight is the Met Gala fashions the biggest night, and before the looks start rolling in, it would appear a certain controversy is reaching boiler point. This is honorary co chairs are lead financial sponsors Jeff Bezos and his wife Lauren Sanchez, who reportedly paid at least ten million dollars to take on the role alongside Beyonce Nicole Kidman, Venus Williams, and of course and a Winter. Tickets to the event are one hundred thousand dollars each, a table three hundred and fifty thousand. Buying your way in the uprationans of fashion presseless. The backlash has been significant. Posters reading boycott the Bezos and Metgala have been plastered across New York City, with criticciting Amazon's alleged compliance with ice work in mistreatment and the optics of a billionaire buying his way into fashion's most prestigious night. New York City's mayor has already announced he will skip it entirely, and a Winter has defended the decision, of course, but we can all see what's happening here. She's no doubt mortified by the whole situation, But ten million dollars in this economy is ten million dollars. Next up, the Beckham family saga continues, and at this point, well, it was already sad, but now it's just even sadder. So Dave I'd Beckham celebrated his fifty first birthday over the weekend. Victoria, Romeo, Cruzen Harper all posted warm tributes. Brooklyn posted nothing not a word, and he also stayed silent during Victoria's birthday last month. David's post was typically gracious, writing he felt lucky and blessed and I mentioned in Brooklyn Victoria gifted him chickens for the Cotswold estate, which is the most posh spice gift imaginable and I love them for it. If you've ever wondered what to give the man that has everything, chickens is the answer. Zaan Malik has now canceled his entire US leg of the Conical tour, and the news has understandably worried fans. Zam was hospitalized on the same day that his new album dropped on April seventeen, posting a photo of himself in a hospital gown without disclosing the nature of his illness. This week, he posted I've been in home, recovering and doing well and will be better and stronger than before, before announcing twenty one US shows have been axed, UK and Mexico dates remain for now. This comes on top of the counciled Netflix documentary with Lee Tomlinson and a genuinely turbulent few weeks. Whatever is going on healthwise, we hope he feels better soon when we return The Devil Wets prior of two carts have dropped hints about a third film. The Rock had a very embarrassing run in with the Law and the early two thousands boy band duet that we never knew but absolutely knew we needed has arrived. Welcome back to morning tea. Now. The film has only been incigmes three days and has already made two hundred and thirty four million dollars globally, and Meryl Streep and Hathaway and Emily Blunt have already been asked about what it would take to make a third Devil Wears prior film. Streep said, immediately the script. Blunt agreed, a good script. It's all about the script, and then Anne Hathaway added, everyone has to say yes. It's got to be the core four, three of them plus Stanley Tucci and Merril added one final condition. They have to be alive. I refuse to believe that Meryl Streep is seventy six. She will never die, she will live forever. Amen. The Rock attended Emily Blunt and Stanley Tucciy's Hollywood or Fame ceremony on Thursday, delivered a heartfelt speech, then got pulled over by police on the way home for tinted windows on his Porsche KM. He stepped out calmly in a crisp white shirt and cream trousers, handed over his license and registration and was issued a ticket. Kevin Hart immediately told Paparrizzi he was the one who called the police before clarifying it was a joke and called the rock a piece of shit for good measure, nothing like a couple of mates ripping each other and finally something for the og boy band fans. En Sync member Joey Fortone was performing at a gala off at the Kentucky Derby of the weekend and invited to the stage bandmate Lamps Bass, Backstreets, Howie and Brian and even Despisido singer Lewis Fonsi. Who Joey fotone you in high school? They performed a bit of a medley I wanted that way and bye bye bye from Endzinc. It's too much. I can't handle it. Millennials, Hey feeling and that is it for me. My loves with the gals. You back in your feeds at three pm with this bill for your entertainment. Dick Dive. Wanting To is hosted and produced by me Ash London with executive producer manishia Is Warrent. 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This weekend, we’ve got one movie Em couldn’t finish… and one we’ve been counting down to for years.First, a chilling new thriller set frighteningly close to home, where a solo wilderness trip turns into a full-blown nightmare. Think high-stakes survival, a relentless predator, and the kind of tension that will have you questioning every outdoor plan you’ve ever made.Then, the sequel that’s been decades in the making has finally arrived — and yes, we have thoughts. From long-awaited reunions and career shake-ups to shocking betrayals and emotional moments that genuinely land, we break down what works, what doesn’t, and whether it lives up to the legacy.Test your knowledge with our Devil Wears Prada quiz here and let us know how you go! Remember The Spill drops the tea twice a day in this feed so follow us for all the latest entertainment news… OR you can WATCH our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and enjoy the watch! Link here. 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I'm Laura Brandy and I'm Vernon, and welcome to Weekend Weekend, where we talk about the best new TV shows and movies that have just dropped this week. Although this week we have two movie recommendations for you to Buzzy movie recommendation. 00:31Speaker 2 Sorry, we need to correct that we have a movie and a half recommendation. 00:34Speaker 1 Okay, I'm already off you for just saying that. A half recommendation Emily Treesman and what do you. 00:41Speaker 2 Mean, guys? I tried really hard. So the movie I'm recommending is called Apex. Yes, it is on Netflix and it stars Charlie Theron and Taron Egerton. This movie is a horror suspense movie in the wilderness. It is so scary. I've only watched half of it. 01:03Speaker 1 Are you serious? 01:04Speaker 2 It's so scared. 01:05Speaker 1 It's okay, But also I just want people to take that with a grade of salt, because you're a scared cat. 01:09Speaker 2 I'm like, you're easily scared, easily scared, but this one just reached a whole new level. 01:15Speaker 1 I don't know what it is. 01:16Speaker 2 Maybe it's a type of horror that I am scared of, which I've only just established from watching this movie. Anyway, I'll let you know what the movie is about. 01:24Speaker 1 Please do so. 01:25Speaker 2 Charlie's Theron plays. This happens in the first few minutes of the film, so I feel like I can say, ye say it. She's like an adrenaline junkie. Yeah, she's like loves rock climbing. She's like one of those dar devil kind of people. And both her and her partner are in the like early early stages of the movie, so this is not a spoiler. They're climbing up this mountain and he falls to his death. 01:46Speaker 1 Okay, just so you know, every climbing adventure movie starts like that. 01:50Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it sets up her as a person. 01:53Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly every movie I've watched about people being like dare devil junkies climbing blah blah blah. Yeah, like for that movie where they're it's on top of the tower and there has to climb up death at the start. Also, yeah, every every kind of climber, you have to. 02:05Speaker 2 Figure out the main character's purpose. 02:07Speaker 1 Yeah, you need to know the steaks straight away. Because all of a sudden, you're just like, this is so dangerous, people are gonna diet. It makes you And also, can I say nothing is more terrifying than watching on screen someone accidentally fall to their death because you can feel it. I don't find it like a like a like my hands. And it's the type of the it's the type of horror that I can't get around. Yeah, it is so scary because it's so rare. You're so worried that one day you might And you famously don't love the outdoors. You don't love activities, You don't love anything that would put you at a great height. 02:35Speaker 2 Why why hate nature? 02:36Speaker 1 Yeah no, why not famously hate nature? Hate adventures? So why do you think you'd find yourself in the situation that you would be climbing a great like mountain or something. 02:45Speaker 2 I'll tell you why, because this movie is set in the blue mountains. 02:48Speaker 1 Yeah, it's way to Also, if she was doing it with her partner, you're like, of course that's gonna happen to you. If you go on a date with someone that let's go climb a mountain, You're like, okay. 02:58Speaker 2 God, you'll never catch me with someone like that. 03:01Speaker 1 Oh see, I think it'd be a fun day. 03:02Speaker 2 I can immediately suss out on dating apps who the adrenaline junkies are in the men that I match with, and it's an immediate I can't shite past s, white past I can't do it. I can't do it. I am not an adventurous woman. 03:14Speaker 1 So this is set in the Blue Mountains, right, And can I just say, we're only just getting over Australia's like pr problem of the whole Wolf Creek situation where for years people were just like because obviously that's about that's based on a true story of a man in the outback who hunted and killed backpackers and those movies and the TV show are so gruesome. 03:32Speaker 2 Well I think they learned from that. So it's not actually like mentioned that it is the Blue mass if they made up like some fictional like national park. But it was very it's very clearly the Blue Mountains, and we all know that they filmed in the Blue Mountains. 03:45Speaker 1 People know it's in Australia. 03:46Speaker 2 Yes, it's very because Taron Egerton has a very Bogan accent and it's a very well done Bogen action. 03:53Speaker 1 We we love a stereotype when it hits. 03:55Speaker 2 Yes, it is, that's what it works so good, to the point where I was like, I forgot he was Australian. Then I was like, but he's not. He's very British. It's very British man anyway. So yeah, Charlie's husband dies. She now goes traveling to Australia to do this like long long nature walk. It's giving Wild, Yeah, it's giving cake. 04:16Speaker 1 It's giving Reese with a spoon, like trudging along a long. 04:19Speaker 2 Path with a backpack, except a man is hunting her. 04:22Speaker 1 Yeah, and you know what, Wild could have used that infusion of a bit of drama. 04:26Speaker 2 It's like, let's hurry it up, let's speed it on, walk faster Reese. So it's basically about Charlie. He's like going through the Blue Mountains while being hunted by a man, hence Apex. It is so scary because it's so real. 04:41Speaker 1 Oh okay, it just feels real, Yeah, because the fantasy element or anything like that to it, Like it's just an evil man doing evil thing, and it's all about. 04:50Speaker 2 Like women like exploring on their own and how are reminded that we can't do that? 04:54Speaker 1 Oh okay, well yeah, exactly that's everyone's biggest fear when they go out on these things. It's like, again, I love that. 04:59Speaker 2 I can't even walk to me corner shop at nine pm because you're so scared. This movie has blindlessly the spirit. 05:04Speaker 1 A woman is literally out in nature by herself, doing dangerous things, and the most dangerous thing is still a miss, it's still a man. Well that you should have just got a bear in there and called it a day. 05:14Speaker 2 The bear would have actually helped her movie Cocaine bear. That would have been a great bed to have. Anyway, It's so scary, but it's so good. And the filming of the actual like scenes of like the walkthrough of the bush and like her in the river and like getting like thrown over in the kayak is like so like so scary. It's so so well done. It doesn't feel any like it's a proper film. It's not like anything cgi at all. It's just done really well. Her acting is amazing. His acting is amazing. We already would have known that. But it's just one of those movies if you are like an adrenaline junkie or you love like that kind of like suspense horror of like will he catch her. Won't he catch her? 05:54Speaker 1 Then? 05:54Speaker 2 This is like the kind of movie for you. You're on the edge of your seat. You're like sweating through the whole thing. 05:58Speaker 1 And how shary, isn't it? Because she's a good action stuff. 06:01Speaker 2 She is so good. She comes across like the good thing about her being in this film is that it's not I feel like if it was a different actress, that could have gone the way of like the poor woman can't get away, Like she's so small and fragile, she can't escape this. She comes across as like a badass in this film, Like it's not like Damsel in distress. It's very much like you can do it, you can make it out like she's so strong. I think that's also the premise of the film. And in that beginning scene, you know she is like well experienced in this world. So it's nothing like, oh my god, I don't know what to do. I don't know how to fire a gun, I don't know what to do. It's like very much like she can do this, she can do this. We're backing her. She's gonna win, okay. Taron Egerton so scary. 06:40Speaker 1 So scary. That's complicated for you because you love. 06:44Speaker 2 Him, she's so and he's like been in an Australia bondai watching the paparazzi photos, pretending it's. 06:50Speaker 1 Filming or horror. Okay, so apex on Netflix. Someone please watch the movie and then tell scaredy Cat Emily the ending. 06:58Speaker 2 Oh my god, yes, and tell me where if you can. I'm not wearing the Blue Mountains. I did the filming. I don't want to go there. 07:02Speaker 1 Don't you want to go there and take a picture. 07:04Speaker 2 I don't want to avoid that. They at all casts. 07:07Speaker 1 Okay. I can't believe this day has finally come. The build up to this for years. But also I feel like I have been living this movie the last month or so, at least because I traveled overseas into the cast. I've written multiple articles about it, We've released multiple videos and podcasts. And what will I do with my life? 07:28Speaker 2 It is that true? What? What are your plans? I don't know. 07:30Speaker 1 There's just darkness. There's just dark. 07:32Speaker 2 Take up a hobby, maybe go go bushwalking in the Blue Mountains. 07:35Speaker 1 I call you. I'm like, okay, I tried to be Telly's throw and I'm hanging from a mountain. What do I do of course, I'm talking about the fact that the devil weares prior to to is finally in cinemas. 07:48Speaker 2 You are here to help us through our current scandal, but I did not hire you, and all I need to do is my time until you've failed what you check the train do. 07:59Speaker 1 I'm going to make something of this job. You could write a book, The Definitive Miranda Priestley Expose Sindy. We did that. 08:08Speaker 2 The Brunello Cucinelli pants. Love those, and you definitely need an embroidered two piece to tam set, but not the terra cotta. Because you're so pale. 08:20Speaker 1 So. 08:22Speaker 2 Jealous that you watch it, I have such fomo. If you've listened to our episode where we talked about your interviews, I said I was saving to watch it with my mum, which I'm doing this Sunday. It's only a few days away. I was so jealous because you and a lot of the team got to watch it. You went to the Sydney premiere for it. Was it on the Tuesday, Yes, it was on the Tuesdays. 08:44Speaker 1 It was the very fans. 08:45Speaker 2 This has been a very long week for me space It's. 08:47Speaker 1 Been a lot. Yes, it was very fancy premiere at the State Theater. It was all done with the iconic red Devil Wears shoe. The champagne was flowing. They had like Devil Wears prior to like customized coke can give back some. 08:59Speaker 2 Of you didn't bring me back? 09:00Speaker 1 Oh my god, actually said, I didn't break myself back. But actually I'm why. I'm really sad that you're there. Just as a quick note is that you know how normally at the State Theater to line up, you line up along the street and it's chaos. And this time I was like, oh, there's no line, this is great. No, the line was down a back alleyway, so every person moved there and I saw like really famous people, like people have had huge TV shows overseas, like Australian influences, like Australian actorssh stars. No, I didn't see Practice Brummel here, who's obviously in the movie. No, No, I'm assuming that they didn't make him. We had to go all line up at an alleyway and at one point you're standing next to bins and barbed wire, and I was like, our jobs are so bad. 09:38Speaker 2 As Miranda would have won it. 09:39Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly, I have everyone being like this is us at the Devil was problem. No, it was so fun to see in a cinema because obviously, despite the fact that I interviewed the cast, I've written about it and done all these podcasts, I hadn't actually seen the full movie until that night because it was kept under lock and key. So now that I've seen the full thing. 09:55Speaker 2 I'm like, God, do you think I love it? Did you love it? 09:58Speaker 1 I liked it so and that's really high praise love. No, no, no, I loved I loved parts of it. I'm not even exaggerating, Like, here's the thing about the Devil weares prior too so so much to say. So it does pick up twenty years after the original, and again this is this is spoiler free because Emily hasn't seen it. I wouldn't do that to you, so don't you guys worry. So obviously we find Andy Sack. She's back in New York. She looks at the fact that she's been living overseas for many years and she's fulfilled her dream of becoming a serious journalist. But then that job gets ripped away from her and I won't say why, but it's very upsetting and sad. And also can I just say PSA to anyone who works in the media industry, This movie is very sober. You're like, oh, I should find another job just in something, but I have no other skills. 10:43Speaker 2 This is the one thing. 10:44Speaker 1 What do I do? So there's that. And at the same time, Miranda is still at Runway Magazine where she is the editor in chief, but she's up for a really big promotion. But the promotion yeah to like with a lives Clark, which is the publishing house, Like still be at Runway, but be like a drive kind of like how Adam Wintaur is now like still the Bosses, but now the overseeral of all the Conde Nast kind of products and things. But then a huge scandal breaks and Miranda and Runway face cancelation and also what will become of her promotion? Yeah, so the states could not be higher. Nigel, obviously played by the incredible Stanley Tucci, is still at Runway Magazine, still the fashion editor, but because of the way media has gone, now his fashion empire, I think I wrote in my review his fashion closet is now a cutlery draw, as in, like not a physical culturally draw, but like the size and the end and stuff. And at the same time, Emily Blunt's character Emily Charleston, is an executive at Deal. But there's a whole backstory there that I shan't get into, so there's a bit of a twist of fate to get it at what I give too much away that Andy ends up back at Runway Magazine as the head of the features department, and then it's this kind of thing of like her having to prove herself to Miranda, save the magazine, save people's careers. And then a lot of the movie also takes place in Italy. Oh yeah, okay, and those things are right switch like Emily, Yeah, They're like, hey, let's do our last season somewhere else. So I will say the best things about it. The original screenwriter, Aleene Broch McKenna, who wrote the first Devil west prit Of movie, is back and out of any movie where it's important to have the original screenwriter, the Devil Wes Prior, I would say is the one that matters the most because the dialogue is such a huroow piece of like the quotable lines, every line exactly, it's like every there's no it's all, it's just so snappy, so smart, so interesting, and so she's penned the sequel script and you can so tell it's exactly the same kind of humor. It's so cutting and interesting and you have these great one liners, so we love that. Of course, the cast are amazing, like watching them step back into these roles, and it's done a way where it doesn't feel jarring and it doesn't feel like you know, sometimes you step back into watching something and it just feels weird, like a lot of people said that with the Gilmore Girls Reboo, that it felt off with the pacing and how they spoke and the delivery and staff, whereas this feels correct. And also it starts so strong like the Devil we is Prota too, Like they jump straight back into the kind of the mix of the drama and you have the four main characters of Emily Blunt, Stanley Tucci, Meryl Streep and Anne Hathaway on screen together very quickly, which was actually a request I found out from Emily Blunt when she read the original script of saying like I don't think we have enough scenes with the core four, and we need one earlier on and that and it doesn't feel like fan service. It just really works and puts you into this world. 13:30Speaker 2 So do we have a lot of montages? You know? I love a montage, really a montage. 13:35Speaker 1 That's the thing. That's the thing. It's not as bring back montages, I know, I bring back makeovers. 13:40Speaker 2 So there's no, there's not and has always the best on montage, no, I know. 13:43Speaker 1 But also because she they explain why she still looks really good and she has nice clothes, like there's a plot point for that. She does get to go into the fashion closet a few times with Stanley tucciin and he pulls or a few things and stuff like that. But I will just say from my untrained fashion eye that the fashion this movie is nowhere near as good as the first. And I give it a little bit of grace because I've been watching the first one for twenty years, so those outfits are burnt into my brain. But I have such a vivid memory of watching The Devil Wes Prita, and every time like a new outfit would come on, you'd be like yeah, yeah, and me going home. And I was like working as a checkout chicken at Kmart in Townsville and I'd like try and like dress like The Devil Wears Pride of characters and it just. 14:20Speaker 2 Like so many movies have taken that, like yeah, montage of the fashion, like coming out of the car door, but then going in the building in a different outfit, and then going into a room and they're in a different outfit, and being at your desk and she's in a different outfit. 14:33Speaker 1 Oh okay, Okay, look, there's great clothes in there, but the clothes don't feel like this incredible character like they did in the first Mate. Okay, I will say, just going back to the good things because I'll get to the bad stuff in a minute. It doesn't feel like a sequel that shouldn't exist, Like it feels like there was more storyless deserve. It feels really deserved, not just because it's so good, but also because The Devil Wears Pritor. When I was really thinking about when I was sitting at my computer writing my review very late last night in this office, I was like, what is it that made this movie so ripe? For the fact that you could make a sequel, despite the fact that it's so beloved, because it's heaps of beloved movies that have released sequels that have not been good and that felt not correct and not needed. But The Devil wes Prator is one of the very few movies that ends on both an ending and a beginning because it ends with Andy leaving going off to forge her career. It ends where Emily is also starting her career. So it kind of it's very natural to wonder what came next because we're seeing the beginning of these women's careers, not the ending. And also Andy was like, she was kind of you getting back together with Nate, but she also was breaking out with him, So it's not like because to make a sequel in general, you often have to break things from the original. You have to break up a happily ever after, you have to end a friendship, you have to bring back a villain to make it work. It's like where people are upset about and just like that with Sex and the City because in order to bring Sex and the City back, they had to break all the things from the finale, and that's why people found it jarring. Whereas Devil we was pritor. It's just like you didn't have to break mething. 16:01Speaker 2 It was very much to be continued. 16:03Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly, and so that's why it feels like it the story is worth it. But also the story and the plot I thought was so great at the end. It has like I would feel like Shakespearean level twists and betrayal. Like a few times I was a gasping. I was like, and she said that, Oh my god, she says, someone says such. We'll talk about this when we do a brially honest review, which mystery. There's a few lines in there. I'm like, that is the meanest thing that anyone has ever said on film, but so but so like needed. There's some really emotional moments in it too, and the emotion didn't feel like, oh, we're just piggybacking off the original like they felt earned in the new movie. So that's all the good stuff. Ten out of ten love recommend see it in the cinema if you can. It kind of peetered a bit in the middle, and I began to get this like kind of sinking feeling in my stomach that The Devil was product had ruined the character of Miranda Priestley, because I felt like it had taken away some of her mystique and some of her the things that made her an iconic character by some times making her look really helpless or making her like giddy and happy. There's the point where she's like in the kitchen of her home, like just like making a drink and like she's chatting away to Andy, and I was like, I feel like I'm watching a female she doesn't do that, but Jed it makes sense later on the movie. It's like in the first movie, how they had to have that scene of her with no makeup where Andy comes upon her. 17:19Speaker 2 You had was that a scene that Meryl Street requested? 17:22Speaker 1 Yeah, they wanted to take it out of the first movie, and she was like, if you don't have that scene of her broken and different, then the movie doesn't work and the charactersn't work. And as I watched this movie, I was like, Oh, we needed those giddy, helpless scenes in the middle. She needed to kind of falter so that when she started flying get at the end, you were like, oh, I get it, I get it. There was that, And also the other thing is like the new character is so great, like somewhere in Ashley Turn Out of Ten, Caleb Haron, Turn Out of Tan, like everyone else so good. There was obviously so much that was shot that had to be cut, Like we've heard about all the cameos and scenes. 17:54Speaker 2 God and ashually wasn't cut. 17:55Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no, she was. Well, I think she'd have a lot more scenes, but obviously they didn't all make it into the movie. Even Meryl Strip told me in our interview that her scenes were cut. 18:02Speaker 2 Yeah, that's right. 18:03Speaker 1 But where I think having so much of the storyline needing to be cut was with Patrick Bramble's character Peter. And he's very charming in it, but it's such a small storyline in the movie, and. 18:16Speaker 2 So he's meant to be like ane Haeway's love and. 18:18Speaker 1 She's only love interest. Yeah, and there's a lot of paparazzi photos of them that came out because he's so hot, really, he's hot, and there's a lot of they became like iconic paparazzi photos of him and Anne Hathaway filming outside in New York and they look so crazy in love and it looked like an old school romance, and we were like like an old school room calm, and everyone's like, oh my god, can't wait to see that. That's one in the movie. Yeah, I just want you to be he's he's in it. He's definitely he's a character, Like he's fine. He hasn't been like he's not he's not Sidney Sweeney, Like he didn't get chopped. Yeah, cameo. But it did feel like that storyline wasn't given enough room to breathe. And I understand why because there was so much plot happening, and you want the plot to be with the four main characters, but then to meet for a little uneven at the end when he and like Anne Hathaway's character were having their big moment, I'm like, you guys are acting off these scenes. You've already shot your head, like. 19:12Speaker 2 They haven't had enough moments to have a big moment. 19:14Speaker 1 Yeah, Like, you guys are acting in the way that your characters spend so much time together, but we as the audience haven't seen that, so we're on the back foot with it a little bit. 19:23Speaker 2 And you don't even know him. 19:25Speaker 1 I was like, wait, is that strange man? But yeah, So that's my only note so on that, I would just say, release the director's cut. I would watch a four hour version of this movie, so easily avenge this. Yeah, bring back director's cuts where we get to see the full thing. So obviously more to say next week when we do a b really honest review and you've seen it, I can't wait to hear what you think. 19:45Speaker 2 I don't wait to watch you with my mum. I just rewatched the original. 19:48Speaker 1 Oh and yeah, per person, So The Devil was prot Of too is out in cinemas now, and stay tuned for. 19:57Speaker 2 If you love the Devil's product. I mean, I've just rewatch the original film. If you're on that same bandwagon and you feel like you know everything about it, we actually have a little gift for you. We have developed a Devil west Prada quiz to test your knowledge on the original film. If you want to give it a go. It is a little bit hard, but I felt like I made it through. I think I got like eighty six percent. 20:18Speaker 1 You thought it was okay? 20:20Speaker 2 Bye, Sorry Devil west Prada. I got of course you did. Anyone gets that you let me more than Emily or an LB. If you want to find out, we'll put a link to the quiz in our show notes. 20:31Speaker 1 We should do a quiz out you got. 20:32Speaker 2 Laura, thank you so much for listening to this episode of the Spill. Don't forget We'll be back this afternoon with a very special Brudleons review about a TV show that both of us are currently obsessed with. The Spill is produced by Minitius Warren with video production by Michael Kaine. 20:50Speaker 1 Bye Bye, Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land. We have recorded this podcast on the Gadigal people of the Orination. We pay our respects to their elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestrate Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This morning, Taylor Swift has sat down with the New York Times for one of the most insightful interviews she's ever done. Plus, Shannon Elizabeth from American Pie has joined OnlyFans and made over a million dollars in her first week, and Kevin Hart is roasting everyone ahead of his Netflix special and it will make your day. ☕ Tristan Thompson files for conservatorship of his brother Amari, and Khloe's role in this will surprise you ☕ Shannon Elizabeth joins OnlyFans and makes $1.2 million in her first week ☕ Kevin Hart roasts half of Hollywood ☕ Taylor Swift sits down with the NYT on songwriting, young love and her extraordinary fanbase Take Mamamia's Devil Wears Prada quiz here to test your movie knowledge! THE END BITSOnce you’ve devoured this morning’s celeb stories, get your daily news headlines from The Quicky here.You can now watch some of our episodes in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to seeLINK: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-spill/id1473523403Support independent women's media SUBSCRIPTION GIVEAWAY:Win a $2,000 Bed Threads voucher. Subscribe to Mamamia here before April 30 to be automatically entered. Current subscriber? You're already in the draw. T&Cs apply.Follow us on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. And subscribe to our Youtube channel.Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia... here.Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here.CREDITSHost & Producer: Ash LondonExecutive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. You're listening to I'm Mom with mea podcast. 00:17Speaker 2 Good Morning Angels, Happy almost Friday. You've nearly made it through the week and you deserve a cheeky treat. I'm I Sondon and. 00:23Speaker 1 I've got a cracky mix for you. 00:25Speaker 2 Today, We've got a surprisingly touching story about Tristan Thompson and his brother. Shannon Elizabeth from American Pie has joined OnlyFans and their numbers are staggering. Kevin Hart has been roasting a listers and his Timothy Shallow may take He's sending me and tell us. We have sat down with The New York Times for gorgeous, insightful chat about the art of songwriting. 00:46Speaker 1 Happy Thursday, baby, Let's crack it. 00:48Speaker 2 Tristan Thompson has filed for a limited conservatorship over his nineteen year old brother, Amari, who has an intellectual. 00:55Speaker 1 Disability and developmental delay. 00:57Speaker 2 Amar has been diagnosed with Lennox guest Dot syndrome, a severe form of epilepsy causing frequent seizures and requiring constant medical supervision. Tristan previously held guardianship of Amari after their mother, Andrea passed away in twenty twenty three. Now that a Mari's turned nineteen, the conservativeship is required to continue that legal oversight into adulthood. And here's the part that got me. Because of Tristan's NBA travel schedule, it's been Chloe Kardashian, his ex who has taken on day to day caregiving, keeping Amari in LA with full time cares. She said she made that commitment out of her love for Andrea, who was one of her closest friends, and that her care for Amri has nothing to do with Tristan and everything to do with his mum. I said it before, I'll say it again. Chloe's a queen who deserves only the very best of life and. 01:45Speaker 1 All the things. 01:46Speaker 2 Next up, shouted Elizabeth, who played Nadia, the exchange student in American Pie, has joined Onlyfan and she's made an absolutely jaw dropping. 01:53Speaker 1 Amount of money in a very short time. 01:56Speaker 2 She launched her page on April sixteen, and in her first week alone, she surpassed one point two million US dollars in earnings. But here's a clincher. She ain't getting naked. It's just photos of her being her unscripted self. Must be nice, she explained her reasoning perfectly. She said I've spent my entire career in Hollywood, where other people control the narrative in the outcome of my career. This new chapter is about changing that, creating on. 02:19Speaker 1 My own terms, and just being free. 02:21Speaker 2 She's now fifty two, listen in South Africa and works in conservation. 02:25Speaker 1 She's saving the world and making a million bucks. Get a girl. 02:28Speaker 2 Stick around when we return. Kevin Hart has been roasting half of Hollywood. Taylor Sweat has opened up to The New York Times by the art of songwriting and something for all you. 02:37Speaker 1 They ever wears Pride of Fans. Welcome back to Morning Tea. 02:42Speaker 2 Kevin Hart has sat down with Alex Cooper on Call of Daddy, added his Netflix roast special airing May ten, and Alex handed in note cards with celebrity names for rapid fire roasts. On Timothy Shallomey, he said the body of a German woman on Nick Cannon, a sperm diffuser on Patrick Mahomes, a voice that doesn't go of his body on Elon Muski launched into a full physical impression, calling him the Glitcher. But my favorite moment was when Alex asked him about Robert Pattinson, who he called Robert Pattison and then announced here was Team Jacob Steell Kevin Hardest, Team. 03:13Speaker 1 Jacob I died. 03:14Speaker 2 The New York Times magazine pold more than two hundred and fifty music insiders to name the thirty greatest living American songwriters. Taylor Swift made the list, obviously, and sat down with the Time for a thirty minute interview about songwriting that I could have listened to for three hours. She talks about the intensity of love and young love between the ages of seventeen and twenty two and how that period produced some of the most deeply felt, honest lyrics of her career and when we think about it, fearless speak now read a girl feeling everything at full volume and having the genius. 03:43Speaker 1 To write it all down. Man, she is right. 03:45Speaker 2 She then addresses her fan basis, and what I love about this is that this is kind of Teller's web of saying, I know, I know exactly who my fans are. I know there are a lot, and this is how I've learned to exist alongside her. 03:56Speaker 3 I have to know that there's certain things that we have as a trader between me and my fans. 04:01Speaker 4 They love for an emotional song to be track five. 04:03Speaker 3 There's like special things like that, But at the same time, there's sort of so many of them now, which is great, But there's corners of my fan base who are going to take things to a really extreme place. 04:18Speaker 4 There's nothing I can do about that. 04:20Speaker 3 There's people who are going to try to like do detective work, figure out the details. 04:25Speaker 4 Who is that about? What is this? 04:26Speaker 3 When it gets a little bit weird for me is when people act like it's sort of like a paternity test, like this song's about that person, because I'm like, that dude didn't write the song I did. 04:37Speaker 2 She also talked about uli Well the ten minute vision, one of my favorite songs of all time, and how that extended vision only exists because her fans refused to let it go. 04:46Speaker 4 We were rehearsing for the Speak Now tour. 04:49Speaker 3 I was very sad in a way that you know, you're like, you're like twenty one years old, and you're just like excruciatingly just like you are. Sadness is you? You are sadness. I just in the break, I just started playing the same four chords over and over again. It's basically the same four chords over and over again for the whole song, and it just became this thing where I just started rambling, and this thing went on for a really, really long time. It was like more than ten minutes that this rambling rant went on, and it wasn't cohesive and it wasn't really that structured, but it felt afterward like I think my mom or somebody went up to the sound guy was like, did you write any chance record any of that? 05:31Speaker 4 And he was like, yeah, I did. And I would have walked away from it if he didn't have a recording of it. So I went. 05:36Speaker 3 Back and listened to it, and I was like, oh, here's this ten minute like basically catharsis of intense emotion, Like there are some really angry, scathing parts that I was like, kind of going to have to make this into a song that's a little bit more palatable. 05:53Speaker 2 So he releases the palatable version. The fans there's more. They hassle he over the full ten minute version for years. She seems the audio she's looking involved safe daries, and in the end she has to piece it all back together. The full interview is live on the New York Times website, and I cannot recommend it highly enough. 06:09Speaker 1 Love You Taytay Forever and hour. 06:12Speaker 2 And finally, Devil wes Prid of fans, Mamma may have created a brand new quiz to test your knowledge of the cult classic and we're talking first film only, so no need to have seen number two to get involved. I scored sixty six percent and I'm a fan, so give it a go and see if you can beat me. 06:27Speaker 1 There's a leak in the show notes, so take the quiz and let us know. 06:30Speaker 2 How you went. 06:30Speaker 4 And that is it for me. 06:31Speaker 2 My loves with the Gales of the Indie feeds from three pm with the Spill Deep Dive for all the entertainment news you need to get yourself through the week. Morning Tea is hosted and produced by me As London with the executive producer Minishi Esquarren. Make sure you follow this book podcast on Instagram and TikTok to say up to date and I will be back to. 06:48Speaker 1 Get you caught up on Monday. 06:50Speaker 2 I have it one for weekend, sweethearts, Babe. 06:57Speaker 4 Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land. We have recorded this podcast on the Gadigal people of the Oronation. We pay our respects to their elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This morning, Ariana Grande has announced a brand new album, WOOHOO!. Plus, filming has begun of the movie installment of The Summer I Turned Pretty, and the Friends cast is still making an amount of money that will make you want to quit everything. ☕ Huge news from Ariana Grande ☕ TSITP is BACK baby! ☕ Helena Bonham Carter's White Lotus Season 4 replacement announced ☕ The INSANE amount the cast of Friends make in residuals every year ☕ Ed Sheeran shaves his head for a fresh start and reveals a secret health battle THE END BITSOnce you’ve devoured this morning’s celeb stories, get your daily news headlines from The Quicky here.You can now watch some of our episodes in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see LINK: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-spill/id1473523403Support independent women's media SUBSCRIPTION GIVEAWAY:Win a $2,000 Bed Threads voucher. Subscribe to Mamamia here before April 30 to be automatically entered. Current subscriber? You're already in the draw. T&Cs apply.Follow us on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. And subscribe to our Youtube channel.Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia... here.Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here.CREDITSHost & Producer: Ash LondonExecutive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Good morning, angels. 00:18Speaker 2 I hope you're having a wonderful harm day, because I have an absolute treat of an episode for you. I'm Ace London and today's tea is so hot I almost didn't want to share it almost Today, Ariana Grande has announced a brand new album, Thanks the Lord. Filming has begun for the summer I Turned Pretty film Lisa Kudrow has casually revealed how much the Friends cast still makes in residuals and it's way more than you think. Anneeded Sheeran has check notes, shaved his head. 00:46Speaker 1 Let's pause, some tea babes, all right. 00:48Speaker 2 Ariana Grande has officially announced her eighth studio album, and it is called Petal and drops July thirty one. Now, with all the wicked action, you might have forgotten something very important, and that is that Ariana is responsible for some of the best pop bangers of the past decade, Dangerous Woman, Yes and Side to Side seven Rings Thank You Next the. 01:06Speaker 1 List literally goes on. 01:08Speaker 2 Ari described the album as something that is full of life and growing through the cracks of something cold and hard and challenging. So Jessic confirmed, we're getting a new Ari album, a tour, and she's starring in a new Fokker in Law film with Robert T. 01:20Speaker 1 Nira and Ben Stilla Lady this year, Someone get this Girl a. 01:23Speaker 2 Massage out of facial stash. Exciting news for fans of the summer I Turned Pretty filmy has officially begun this week for the film installment. First scenes are being shot in Wilmington, North Carolina, and production. 01:35Speaker 1 Is expected to run for about two months. 01:38Speaker 2 The cast are reportedly getting paid for the equivalent of three episodes, which makes sense when you break down timings. Belly, Jeremiah, and Conrad, of course are returning, but additional supporting cast members are yet to be now and so there will no doubt be some surprises to come. Jenny Hahn, who wrote the iconic book trilogy, has hindered that the film will center on another big milestone in Belly's journey, and we're thinking people motherhood. 02:01Speaker 1 Surely she's too young for that. I suppose we'll have to wait and see. 02:04Speaker 2 Now. I know we talked about Helena Bottom Carter exiting White Loatus season four earlier this week, and I promised you I keep you posted on who was stepping in while the answer has arrived and it's a good one. 02:14Speaker 1 Oscar win out. 02:15Speaker 2 Laura Dern has joined the season forecast, stepping in after Helena's exit. Crucially, she's not taking over Helena's role. That character has been scrapped entirely. Instead, Mike White has written a brand new character specifically for her. Now this is not a random casting either. They go way back. They created the HBO cult favorite Enlightened together, for which Durn won a Golden Globe, and whitebrote and directed the two thousand and seven film Year of the Dog with Laura Dern. They were even photographed together having somemovies in La last July, which fans were speculating at a time was a White Lotus meeting. 02:49Speaker 1 It took nine months, but fans, as always, were right, and here we are sticking around. 02:54Speaker 2 Billie Eilish gives us a lesson in astrology, and the Friends cast is still making an obscene amount of money from his jewels. 03:03Speaker 1 Welcome back to your morning tea. 03:05Speaker 2 This next story is either going to delight you or make you want a life faced down on the floor, possibly both. 03:09Speaker 1 Lisa Kudro has revealed in a new interview. 03:11Speaker 2 With the Times of London that the Friend's cast is still earning a jaw dropping amount from the show. I'm talking twenty million dollars in residuals two decades after it ended. Now Friends generates about a billion dollars annually for Warner Brothers through broadcast rights and syndication, and each cast member received two percent of that twenty million dollars a year for a show that wrapped in two thousand and four. 03:35Speaker 1 I'm thrilled for them, and also I need. 03:38Speaker 2 To go and cry in a closet while I lament my measly sayings in super write a quick but important one. 03:43Speaker 1 Next Ed Sheerann has shaved your head. The ginger hair has gone. 03:45Speaker 2 He's bald, and he's explained why in an Instagram post ed wrote, yes, I've shaved my hair. I wanted to shave it to signify a fresh start, a lot of new beginnings in my life at the moment. I love it thinking of keeping it this way. He also revealed he's been privately battling shit she can go for the past month, writing wouldn't recommend it, but on the Men's now it is about to recummens. He's looped to a heading to the Dominican Republic next week, and I'll leave you this. Billy Ailey sat down with l for quick Q and A and included this cheeky astrology Listen, what. 04:15Speaker 3 Is a common misconception about Sagittarius's bitch. Those are not misconceptions, those are true. Here's the thing about astrology. That shit is real. That shit is true. And this is coming from a person who if somebody brought up astrology, I would be like, oh my God, please shut the fuck up. And then I met a Gemini man and I dated as ass and then I believed in astrology. And since then, no matter what, without a doubt, I can recognize a Gemini from a mile away girl. Gemini's amazing life of the party. My favorite people in the world. Male Geminis go to help, so Sagittarius is. Here's the real conception, not misconception, conception about Sagittarius's loud, stubborn, obnoxious, bossy, funny, insane, sexy, good in bed. Yeah, kind of flaky, also a little flaky. 05:13Speaker 1 I'm working on it and I could not love that check anyway. That is it for today's morning tea. 05:17Speaker 2 Thank you for spending a couple of minutes of your Wednesday hanging out with me, Ash London. 05:21Speaker 1 I'm your host and producer. 05:23Speaker 2 Menisia Is Warren is the executive producer, and of course the girls that be back right here in your feet with three pm. So make sure you check back later in the day and in the meantime follow us on all the socials. I'll be back tomorrow. Chat then and have a wonderful day. Bye, Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land. 05:42Speaker 1 We have recorded this podcast on the Gatigor people of the eorination. We pay our respects to their elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This morning, it appears Harry Styles really has left the dating pool forever and I think we all need a moment. Plus, Jessica Biel has apparently had ENOUGH of Justin Timberlake and honestly sis, same, and Taylor Swift is legally trademarking herself which is the most Taylor Swift thing that has ever happened. ☕ It would appear Harry Styles and Zoe Kravitz actually are engaged ☕ Jessica Biel issues Justin Timberlake an ultimatum and the man only has himself to blame ☕ Taylor Swift trademarks her voice because if AI wants her, it can pay for it ☕ Melania Trump wants Jimmy Kimmel fired and the whole thing is genuinely unhinged ☕ House of the Dragon Season 3 teaser trailer drops so get ready to watch 400 people get stabbed THE END BITSOnce you’ve devoured this morning’s celeb stories, get your daily news headlines from The Quicky here.You can now watch some of our episodes in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see LINK: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-spill/id1473523403Support independent women's media SUBSCRIPTION GIVEAWAY:Win a $2,000 Bed Threads voucher. Subscribe to Mamamia here before April 30 to be automatically entered. Current subscriber? You're already in the draw. T&Cs apply.Follow us on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. And subscribe to our Youtube channel.Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia... here.Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here.CREDITSHost & Producer: Ash LondonExecutive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Good morning, Angels. I hope you're feeling as fresh as a newly engaged pop star on a Tuesday, because we have an absolute cracker of an episode for you today. I'm as London and I'm ready to crack into another gorgeous Tuesday. I hope you are too, so today Harry Styles and Zoe kravitt seemed to actually be engaged, like for real life. Jessica Biel has reportedly issued j t an ultimatum, and honestly, good for her. Tyler Swift is taking on the AI industry, and Milania Trump wants Jimmy Kimmel fire because of course she does. Let's pause some tea, Okay, let's start with the big one. It would appear that Zoe Kravitts and Harry Styles might actually be engaged. We first reported on this last week, and honestly, by now I expected one of them to come out and say, namah, it was just some costume jewelry that Zoe sometimes wears on that finger and so far, no such a bottle. A source confirmed to People Magazine that Harry and Zoe have shared the news with a small circle of family and friends. The couple were first wanted together last summer in Rome and have been inseparable ever since. And generally, when it comes to this sort of thing, people know their stuff because when people kind of announce it, it's generally a pretty good sign. Zoe was previously married to actor Kyl Gluseman and then engage to Channing Tatum before they caught things off in late twenty twenty four. What I love about all of this is that Zoe doesn't have a type. None of those men look, feel, or vibe. Similarly, she does not discriminate. Get a girl. Now, this one's been bubbling for a while and it's now reached a new level. So according to The Daily Mail, Jessica Bial has issued Habi justin Timberlake with an ultimatum over his behavior, and sources say there's not much more she can take. The report says the Bill has had enough of a string of incidents, including his twenty twenty four DUI arrest in subsequent release of bodycam footage Jelly, this year recent trip to Las Vegas, where eye witnesses told Page six he appeared to be under the influence, and his own golf invitational in the afternoon. A source told the outlet she does everything with the kids, and she's stick of being publicly embarrassed. There's not much more she can take now. Unnamed sources and tabloid marriage reports should always be taken with a grain of salt. The pattern of behavior here is documented and very public. The dy, the meme, the bodycam footage, the Vegas golf tournament. Jessica has stood by this man through a lot, and generally speaking, when these reports start emerging, it's often kind of in order to pave the way, so to speak. So we'll just have to wait and see. Stick around. Taylor Swift is trademarking her own voice to protect against AI Malaney. Trump is demanding that the ABC fire Jimmy Kimmel and one for the Game of Thrones fans, welcome back to you morning Tea. Taylor Swift is far the three trademark applications with the US Paytent and Trademark Office, and the movie is specifically designed to protect her against AI misuse. I mean, it's terrifying that people have to do this, but honestly, if I was I would do the same thing. Two of the applications are around trademarks covering her voice secifically the phrases hey It's Taylor Swift and Hey It's Taylor. The third is a visual trademark covering a specific photograph with her on stage holding a pink guitar in a multicolored iridescent bodysuit and silver boots. You know the one. We all know the one. Taylor's likeness has already been used without permission in AI fakes, including metas AI chatbods, pornographic images, and famously in twenty twenty four, when Donald Trump shared AI generated images falsely suggested she endoorstam Ill. She's following in the footsteps of Matthew McConaughey, who's successfully trademark Alright, alright, alright last year. Jimmy Kimmel is back at it again, and by it, I mean pissing off the Trumps. He made a joke on his show last Thursday in which he said that Mlania Trump had a glow like an expectant widow. The Joe gave two days before the White House Cross Bondent dinner, which was evacuated after shots for fired outside the venue. Milania has since posted on next calling for ABC to fire Kimmel, writing Kimmel's hateful and violent rhetoric is intended to divide our country. His monologue about my family isn't comedy. His words are corrosive and deep into political sickness within America. Enough is enough, It's time for ABC this take a stand. This is not the first time Jimmy Kimmel has been pulled into this kind of controversy. Of course, he was previously suspended in twenty twenty five after he made comments following the death Charlie Kirk, before reinstating him less than a week later. I med a significant public backlash. Kimmel and ABC have not yet publicly responded. And now, for anyone who has been waiting very patiently for more Dragons in their life, your prayers have been answered. House of the Dragon season three trailer has struggle well to tease a trailer, and now we have an official premiere date. The eight episode season kicks off June twenty one, and new episodes are airing weekly through the season finale on August Night. As expected, things look and gory. All that remains is for you to decide what you want from this war. You will do things that your heart would have recoiled from before you came to the throne. The tak Arians are savage race. We act with holy purpose, So a score a rightful king. I'm going to kill my brother or die in the attempt. Draw your sword. Show runner Ryan Condall said in a video message, this is a huge season. It's the biggest we've had by any margin. It's dark, it's funny, it's action packed, it's emotional, and of course it has lots and lots of dragons. And that is it for me, my loves, but the girls will be back in your feeds at three pm with the spill Dip dive for your entertainment news. Wanting Tea is hosted and produced by me Ash London with executive producer Many sars Warren. 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This morning, Megan Thee Stallion has put Klay Thompson on full blast. Plus, BookTok now has its own official bestseller chart and honestly it's about time, and there's a new trailer for a film starring Paul Rudd and Nick Jonas that looks like a solid 10/10. ☕ Megan Thee Stallion dumps Klay Thompson and does NOT go quietly ☕ BookTok gets its own official UK bestseller chart - and it's all female authors ☕ Paul Rudd and Nick Jonas star in a new film that actually looks...incredible. ☕ Helena Bonham Carter exits White Lotus Season 4 just days into filming ☕ Noah Cyrus brings out Billy Ray at Stagecoach and the Cyrus family heals in public THE END BITSOnce you’ve devoured this morning’s celeb stories, get your daily news headlines from The Quicky here.You can now watch some of our episodes in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see LINK: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-spill/id1473523403Support independent women's media SUBSCRIPTION GIVEAWAY:Win a $2,000 Bed Threads voucher. Subscribe to Mamamia here before April 30 to be automatically entered. Current subscriber? You're already in the draw. T&Cs apply.Follow us on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. And subscribe to our Youtube channel.Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia... here.Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here.CREDITSHost & Producer: Ash LondonExecutive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.You're listening to a Mom and mea podcast. Good Morning Angels, Happy Monday. A brand new week is upon us, and the celebrity world has absolutely not been resting. I'm Age London and I've been up since that crackad on collecting every single drop a tea for you. You're welcome, babes. Today. Meghana Stallion has put Clay Thompson on full blast and everybody on her side. Book Talk has officially been given its own bestseller chart, and I have thoughts all good ones. Helena Bonham Carter has exited White Lotus before filming even properly got started. And there's a new film coming out next month that I didn't know existed until today, and now it's all I can think about. So let's spore some tea. First Up Rapper and Broadway Start. Meghan Stallion is dumped NBA player Clay Thompson after less than a year of dating, and she did not go quietly. She posted to her Instagram stories cheating. You had me around your whole family playing house, got cold feet, holding you down through all your horrible moods, wings and treatment towards me during your basketball season. Now you don't know if you can be monogamous, followed by like five question marks. Then came the formal statement. She said, I've made the decision to end my relationship with Clay. Trust, fidelity and respect a non negotiable for me in a relationship, and when those values are compromised, there's no real path forward. I personally preferred the Instagram run, but I respect her being classy about it. Now, let's put this in context. Two months ago, Meghan was publicly manifesting her own engagement. She'd met his whole family. The man named his boat after her, the ss Stallion that apparently could manage to be faithful Clay buddy, the ss Stallion deserved better, inserted Meghan next time. This one is for the readers, but not like literary fiction readers, the real ones like me, who spend more time than they care to imagine reading about other people. Bonking book Talk has officially been given its own UK bestseller chart. The new list is compiled by a media controller Nielsen IQ Book Data, the same people behind the Sunday Times bestseller list, so you know it's legit. It combines UK sales data with analyzes of the BookTok hashtag with over seventy seven million posts under the tag book It's about time they put some respect on Booktok's name. The inorderal Top twenty is entirely made up of female authors, as it should be. Irish writer Chloe Walsh appears the most. All six books in her Boys of Tom and series have made the list, which follows a group of teenagers navigating love, friendship and trauma at a private school. Romandes. He dominates, with Sarah g Mass and Rebecca Garris, both featuring heavily on top of the list. Heated rivalry of course, stick Around. We've got the Nick Jonas film that I did know existed and are now having an existential crisis over Helena Bottom. Carter has exited the White Lotus and the Sires family at a stagecoach moment that signals a full reconciliation. Welcome back to Morning Tea. Now over the weekend and you trailer dropped for a movie I didn't know all about until now, and I can't believe it. I'm beside myself with anticipation for May twenty nine. The film is called Power Ballad and it stars Paul Rudd and Nick freaking Jonas so Rad plays a wedding spinger past his prime. Nick plays a washed up boy band member. They have a late night jam by coincidence, and Paul Wright's character plays him a song he's been working on. Fast Forward. The pop star releases the song, reigniting his career. But this is when it gets complicated. You don't recognize it, should I of course yes you should. If that's my chorus and verse. I wrote at that time, when Wow, Danny Wilson, you were great up there, come with me. I could tell with any two minutes of any you you are ninely some boy band guy, and you are too good for that wedding band to him with this one for years. So every Signverrold in my life, it's about you. Sockered. The film is directed by the same guy who made Once, which if you haven't seen, please stop what you're doing and watch immediately, and he's already receiving rave reviews. Paul Right and Nick Jonas in a music film about songwriting, friendship and betrayal, put it in my veins. Helena Bottom Carter announced it as part of the White Load of season forecast back in January. Has exited the show and the timing is extraordinary. HBO released his statement seeing the character did not align once on set, and that the role has subsequently been rethought, is being rewritten, and will be being recast in coming weeks. So what we understand is that she got to Saint Trepe, unpacked her bags, got a couple of days into filming, and then it became clear to both parties it wasn't working. Reports suggests the role was central to the season story, which is why the decision was made to rewrite it entirely. I want to know if she got paid for a couple of days or she just got a free holiday at Center Pay, which I said wouldn't be bad about. The season is set during the Cannes Film Festival on the French Riviera, filming in Center Pey, Monaco and Paris. And finally, Noah Cyrus made her stagecoach debut on Friday over in the States and saved the best of last. After a studying set, she brought out her brother Brazen and then her dad, Billy Ray to perform their new song on Our Way Along a song tonight. Thank you so much for coming to see my first ever stage church. I'd like to talk about my brother Brazen and welcome my dad. Billy Ray's single written I produced by my brother Brazen, Hold on our way Along. You're right now. If you don't know anything about the Syrus family, there was some estrangement after Tish and Billy raised Aborce Scott Murkhy. Since then, Miley and Billy Ray have made up and now it's lovely to see they all seem to be on better terms, proof that once again, all faunilies are complicated, even when you're all famous. And now, my darlings, is it for today's morning tea. But thank you for spending a couple of minutes of your public holiday Monday with me. Hope you have a wonderful day with friends and family. Take care of yourself and in the meantime you can follow us on TikTok and Instagram to keep up to date with all the latest news and entertainment. Gusk. My name is Ashland and your host executive producer is Mini. She's warrant and we'll be back to morrow. Bye. Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land. We have recorded this podcast on the Gatigor people of the eorination. We pay our respects to their elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I'm so unbelievably thrilled that Rita Wilson chose How to Fail for her FIRST EVER podcast appearance. The acclaimed actor, singer and producer was born in Los Angeles to a Greek mother and a Bulgarian father who emigrated to the United States in 1949. You might know her from early roles like Bosom Buddies, where she met her future husband Tom Hanks, and from standout turns in films including Runaway Bride, It's Complicated and her unforgettable scene-stealing in Sleepless in Seattle. Behind the camera, she helped bring My Big Fat Greek Wedding and Mamma Mia! to the big screen. Alongside her film career, Wilson has built a powerful musical voice, releasing albums since 2012 and collaborating with artists like Elvis Costello and Willie Nelson. She now returns to her solo work with her sixth album, Sound Of A Woman, released on 1st May. In this episode, we talk about growing up in a traditional, private family but later living in the public eye, bringing My Big Fat Greek Wedding to the screen, her friendships with Nora Ephron and Bruce Springsteen - and how her experience of breast cancer reshaped her life and friendships. ✨ IN THIS EPISODE: 02:39 Sleepless In Seattle Scene Secrets 04:32 Finding Her Voice 07:53 Labels and Late Blooming 13:07 Privacy to Speaking Out 14:56 Greek Wedding Breakthrough 17:43 Drama School Rejections 27:57 Proving Them Wrong 29:03 Onscreen Friendship Magic 31:03 What Friendship Means 32:12 Breast Cancer and Blame 35:07 Honoring Her Father 39:55 Family Secrets and Privacy 45:50 Building Family Values 47:20 Fired as Ticket Taker

You can dance, you can jive! We're having the time of our lives this week as we review and rank Arrival, the 1976 breakout record for Europop sensation ABBA! After winning Eurovision (4th time's the charm), the band had to prove to the world they were more than a One-Hit Waterloo Wonder. Their hooky melodies and intricate vocal harmonies led to the band's most important record yet, from royalty-approved Dancing Queen to Money, Money, Money. Learn how Arrival cemented the legacy of one of Sweden's biggest bands and turned ABBA into a household name, even decades after their heyday.Here we go again.. James & Connor talk Mamma Mia opinions and ABBA faves before exploring the band's history. We'll learn all about Agnetha, Björn, Benny, and Anni-Frid, discover why the B is backwards, and talk about how exciting helicopter rides can be. From quirky exhibits in the ABBA museum to Voyage, the band's swansong virtual residency made of digital ABBAtars, this episode truly has it all. The Mixtaper is back to Take A Chance on Fact Or Spin as he teaches us about a mysterious benefactor, shy mics, and the tux tax. Tune in, because there's something in the air tonight!Are you on Team Happy Hawaii or Team Why Did It Have To Be Me? What do you think the Tiger is? Are we WRONG about Mamma Mia?! Let us know your hottest ABBA takes in the comments or on socials. Follow for another record next week!Keep Spinning at www.SpinItPod.com!Thanks for listening!0:00 Intro5:57 About ABBA19:56 About Arrival33:07 Awards & Abbalades35:28 Fact Or Spin36:58 Their Songs Are Fit For Royalty39:02 They Turned Down The Chance To Become Billionaires41:46 They Used An Interesting Tax Loophole43:50 They Had A Strict No-Eye-Contact-With-Mics Rule46:22 Bjorn Took A Chance On Working Out49:14 Album Art52:04 When I Kissed The Teacher54:17 Dancing Queen58:01 My Love, My Life59:25 Dum Dum Diddle1:01:56 Knowing Me, Knowing You1:03:27 Money, Money, Money1:05:15 That's Me1:06:17 Why Did It Have To Be Me?1:08:14 Tiger1:09:33 Arrival1:10:39 Fernando1:13:26 Happy Hawaii1:14:44 Final Spin Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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(airdate: 4.3.26) Blake Lively's courtroom drama takes a legal left turn, Colin Firth's Mamma Mia! spandex joke proves British humor is alive and slightly inappropriate, and Ryan Seacrest is once again trying to unload his Napa Valley wine-country palace for the price of a small kingdom. Celebrity lawsuits, ABBA pants trauma, and real-estate envy — just another perfectly ridiculous day in The Who Cares News. Voted 6th Best Entertainment News Podcast! Because being #1 is soooo overrated. And @HalleBerry Listen to the daily Van Camp and Morgan radio show at: https://vancampandmorgan.com/stations buy us a coffee    

The music in this broadcast has been removed from this podcast for rights reasons. The Secretary of State for Northern Ireland said last week that it is "shameful" that Northern Ireland is the part of the UK where it is "most dangerous to be a woman". He described the scale of violence against women and girls in the area as a "source of enormous sadness" and "shame". Thirty women have been violently killed in Northern Ireland since 2020, two lost their lives just this month. They were 28-year-old Amy Doherty and 23-year-old Ellie Flanagan. So what is being done about the violence, which is predominantly carried out by men? Krupa Padhy is joined by Allison Morris from the Belfast Telegraph, BBC journalist Jennifer O'Leary, who has made a documentary telling the story of domestic violence in Northern Ireland through the tale of a women's refuge, as well as Marie Brown, CEO of Foyle Women's Aid and Foyle Family Justice Centre. Rita Wilson discusses her new album of deeply personal songs, Sound of a Woman. She's a film and TV actor, as well as a singer/songwriter, and was the producer behind blockbuster movies Mamma Mia! and My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Rita also happens to be married to Tom Hanks. She joins Krupa to share her reflections on marriage, parenthood and illness. The Society of Radiographers has said that the demand for ultrasound has increased, but there aren't enough people being trained to do the work. They say this is leading to pregnant women and cancer patients facing delays for vital ultrasound scans which could be 'dangerous for the patient.' Rachel Nolan, president elect of the Society of Radiographers, tells us what needs to change.A recent Vogue Business size inclusivity report has documented a decline in the use of models with bigger bodies on the catwalk. Of the almost 8,000 looks presented across over 180 shows and presentations for Autumn/Winter 2026, over 97% of the looks were what is called "straight-size" (that's a UK size 4-8), just over 2% were mid-size (a UK size 10 - 16), and only 0.3% were plus-size (a UK size 18). Last season, it was 0.9%. So plus-size representation has declined. The report also cites the growing use of weight loss drugs (GLP-1s) as a key part of the change compared to recent years. So, what's happening in the fashion industry when it comes to body-size inclusivity, and are we seeing an impact on the clothing sizes available in the shops on our high streets? Elizabeth Paton, Fashion Editor of the Financial Times, and Gabriele Dirvanauskas, Deputy Editor at Drapers magazine, join Krupa in the studio.

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Domonique Foxworth ran and — Mamma Mia! — lost in last week's secretive election by the NFL Players' Association. As he explains to Pablo and David Samson, unions may be more corporate than ever — but the fight against billionaires has never been more consequential. And the implications may turn nuclear for an MLB lockout.• Subscribe to "The Domonique Foxworth Show"• Subscribe to "Nothing Personal with David Samson" Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Kate Hudson is up for an Oscar for her role as Claire in the film ‘Song Sung Blue,' starring opposite Hugh Jackman as one half of Lightning & Thunder, a Neil Diamond tribute band. She spoke with Tonya Mosley about pursuing singing late in her career. We also hear from Swedish actor Stellan Skarsgard. He's earned an Oscar nomination for his performance in the film ‘Sentimental Value.' He'll talk with Dave Davies about his many roles over the years -- from 'Dune' to 'Good Will Hunting,' and 'Mamma Mia!' and recovering from a stroke that impaired his ability to memorize lines.David Bianculli reviews a new documentary about Paul McCartney in his decade after the Beatles.To manage podcast ad preferences, review the links below:See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

For the first time in show history we're doing a “listener's choice” episode! We gave you four options and you ultimately decided to go with a 2008 Movie Swap featuring ‘The Strangers' and ‘Mamma Mia!' Before diving in, Sean and Amanda preview the Super Bowl this Sunday and talk through the potential trailers for some of the year's biggest movies (2:27). Then, they explain what a Movie Swap is exactly (8:42), and discuss ‘The Strangers' (16:59) and ‘Mamma Mia!' (48:38) Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Producer: Jack Sanders A State Farm agent can help you choose the coverage you need. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.®  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices