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Never in a million years would anyone expect Canada to be seen as a greater threat to the United States than Russia or China. Yet, as Professor Ian Holloway explains in this clip, that perception has emerged in recent years. Holloway reflects on the long history of cooperation between the two countries—from Canada sheltering thousands of Americans on 9/11 to sending firefighters during California's wildfires. His reminder is simple but powerful: nations, like people, accomplish more with cooperation than with conflict.

Professor Ian Holloway joins Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate to discuss the legal, historical, and economic connections between Canada and the United States—and why civility still matters in the pursuit of justice. Highlights include: Why U.S. and Canadian legal systems feel so familiar—and where they diverge. Stories from the War of 1812, WWII, and modern trade alliances. Canada's unique role as Georgia's #1 trading partner. Ian's definition of justice as a shared duty.   Guest Bio Ian Holloway was the Dean of Law at the University of Calgary from 2011 to 2024.   Prior to this, Ian served as dean at another Canadian law school (Western Ontario?), and as associate dean at the Australian National University. Over the years, he has also held appointments at Cambridge and the National University of Singapore. He is a graduate of Dalhousie University, the University of California at Berkeley and the Australian National University. He is also an alumnus of the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University and the John F Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. He is widely-published, both in Canada and around the world. In addition, he has published a book on naval history as well as many essays or other pieces in various legal and non-legal periodicals. He has been a regular columnist for Canadian Lawyer Magazine for a number of years.   Before beginning his academic career, Ian spent a number of years in private practice in Halifax with the Atlantic Canadian law firm of McInnes Cooper, where he focused on labour and employment law. He also served as the law clerk to the chief justice of the Federal Court of Appeal. In 2003, Ian was elected to membership in the American Law Institute, a distinction that is held by only a handful of Canadians. In 2004, he was appointed Queen's Counsel. In 2007, he chaired the review of legal education in Oman. In 2013-14, Ian served as the legal education and  raining team leader for the Canadian Bar Association's Futures project. In 2018, he was elected a Fellow of the  College of Law Practice Management, the first Canadian legal academic to be so honoured.   Ian is a member of the Nova Scotia Barristers'  Society, the Law Society of Ontario, the Law Society of Alberta and the Canadian Bar Association. He is currently a Trustee of the NALP Foundation, and formerly served for eight years as a Trustee of the Law School Admission Council. He served as a Governor of the Southern Alberta Division of the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires. He was a member of the Advisory Council to the Minister of Heritage on the Commemoration of the War of 1812, and he served as a member of the vice-regal selection committee for the Lieutenant Governor of Alberta. In 2015, he was appointed to the National Security and Intelligence Review Agency, and made a member of the King's Privy Council for Canada.   Beyond the legal sphere, Ian spent a total of twenty-five years serving in the Royal Canadian and Royal Australian Navies. Ian has received numerous awards in his career, including Queen Elizabeth II Diamond Jubilee Medal in 2013, the Commemorative Medal for the 125th Anniversary of Canadian Confederation in 1992, the Canadian Forces Decoration in 1989, and the Queen Elizabeth II Platinum Jubilee Medal (Alberta) in 2022. Links: Ian Holloway | UCalgary Profiles | University of Calgary Lester Tate: http://www.akintate.com/ Robin Frazer Clark: https://www.gatriallawyers.net/ See You In Court (seeyouincourtpodcast.org) To learn more about the Georgia Civil Justice Foundation, visit fairplay.org

Attorney McCracken Poston warns against confusing justice with revenge. In this short clip, he reflects on how public opinion can misinterpret acquittals and court outcomes, reshaping the meaning of justice. This moment comes from Episode 49: What Is Justice? Part 3 of the See You In Court podcast, where more than 50 legal voices share their perspective on the ultimate question: What is justice? Listen to the full episode here: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/2025/07/29/episode-49-what-is-justice-part-3/

In this See You In Court short, attorney Andy Rogers explains why justice is best described as a verb—something that happens when juries and settlements reflect the truth and treat clients fairly. From empowering juries to decide on complex cases to reaching settlements that leave clients feeling heard, Andy reminds us that justice takes many forms.

In this excerpt from See You In Court's annual “What Is Justice?” compilation, Ivy Cadle reminds us that justice isn't always about the end result — it's about ensuring everyone has an equal opportunity to participate in the process. She discusses how access to resources, regulatory reform, and the fairness of the journey are just as important as the verdict itself.

What does justice really feel like? In this short clip from See You In Court, attorney Andrew Rogers shares the story of a vulnerable client who, despite the odds, found closure and dignity through a well-negotiated settlement — not a trial. For Andrew, justice means making sure every client feels heard, no matter the outcome.

In this short clip, William Gentry uses a vivid analogy to explain the difference between justice, mercy, and grace—turning a speeding ticket into a story you won't forget. Catch the full conversation in Episode 49 of the See You In Court Podcast, featuring nearly 50 unique answers to the question: What is justice? Listen here: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/2025/07/29/episode-49-what-is-justice-part-3/

In this clip, Judge Alvin T. Wong defines justice as fairness, an equal chance to be heard, and treatment without bias or favoritism. This is one of nearly 50 perspectives shared in our special episode, “What is Justice? – Part 3,” where Georgia's legal leaders reflect on how teamwork, accountability, and equal access to courts define true justice.

Justice means something different to everyone—and that's exactly what makes it powerful. In Part 3 of our See You In Court series, hosts Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate bring together over some unique answers to the question we ask every guest: What is justice? From courtroom teamwork to fairness in family law, access to legal processes, and holding decision-makers accountable—this episode delivers a diverse range of perspectives from Georgia's top legal minds.

In this compelling clip from Episode 48, Joyce Gist Lewis makes a powerful statement on the ethical obligations lawyers hold — not to their clients' demands, but to the Constitution and the court. Just because someone is paying the bill, she says, doesn't mean they get to co-opt your character. Hear how this principle guides her work and why so many legal decisions are misunderstood by the public.

In this See You In Court podcast short, Joyce Gist Lewis shares how her background in theater sharpened her skills as a trial lawyer. Memorizing scripts is only half the job — great lawyers know how to improvise when it counts. Hear why adaptability is critical in the courtroom and beyond.  

In the full episode of See You In Court, Atlanta attorney Joyce Gist Lewis shares her journey from actor to litigator and her leadership at one of the largest women-owned law firms on the East Coast. She speaks powerfully about legal courage, election law, and why defending the rule of law matters now more than ever. In this compelling clip, host Robin Frazer Clark reads directly from the American Bar Association's lawsuit challenging the federal “law firm intimidation policy” — warning that without action, political retribution could silence lawyers, squash dissent, and threaten our entire legal system.

In this episode short, Joyce Gist Lewis explains how the government's role in voting rights cases is changing—and why it should concern all of us.

In this clip, Joyce Gist Lewis reflects on the conversation that sparked her next big move—and how it aligned with a goal she wrote down over 10 years ago: to create the largest woman-owned law firm in Georgia. Learn how she's bringing that vision to life at Krevolin & Horst by reshaping firm culture, leadership, and what it means to love practicing law.

In today's clip, Atlanta attorney Joyce Gist Lewis responds to growing intimidation facing lawyers who handle election cases. Her message is clear: “If we lose the rule of law, what are we here for?”

Before she became one of Georgia's most respected attorneys, Joyce Gist Lewis was chasing a different dream—acting on stage in Atlanta. In this short clip from Episode 48, Joyce opens up about the moment she realized she needed more intellectual stimulation, how her fiancé's legal stories sparked her curiosity, and why stepping away from her father's influence helped her find her true path to law school.

Joyce Gist Lewis doesn't flinch when asked about representing clients under political fire. In this clip from Episode 48, she offers a bold reminder of what's at stake when lawyers are intimidated.

In this episode of See You In Court, hosts Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate sit down with one of Georgia's most dynamic legal voices—Attorney Joyce Gist Lewis. From her early days in theater to becoming co-managing partner of one of the largest women-owned law firms on the East Coast, Joyce shares her inspiring story, her landmark legal battles, and her unwavering commitment to the rule of law.

What does justice really mean? In this special short clip from Episode 38 of See You In Court, attorney Douglas Amar reflects on one of the most profound definitions of justice—drawing from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., he shares that "justice is love correcting that which revolts against love." He explores how justice and mercy are not opposites but deeply intertwined—expressed through grace, redemption, and the courage to uplift people and society. It's a heartfelt and timely reminder that real justice isn't just about the law—it's about humanity.

In the next episode of See You In Court, Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate welcome Joyce Gist Lewis—renowned Georgia attorney, legal leader, and advocate for professionalism in the practice of law. Joyce shares her remarkable journey through the legal profession, including her service on the State Bar of Georgia's Board of Governors and being named one of Georgia's Top 100 Lawyers. Together, they explore how true leadership, ethical integrity, and mentorship can shape the future of civil justice.

In this powerful short from Episode 47 of See You in Court, Professor Stephen Vladeck challenges the narrative that federal judges are politically targeting the Trump administration. Backed by new research, Vladeck reveals that 46 rulings against Trump-era policies came from 39 judges appointed by five different presidents from both parties—across 11 federal district courts and 7 circuits. This isn't about partisan politics—it's about judicial independence and the integrity of the legal process.

In this excerpt from Episode 45 of See You In Court, former Deputy Attorney General Larry D. Thompson offers a powerful defense of the public servants he worked alongside—especially those in the Department of Justice. He reminds us that while no system is perfect, the integrity and dedication of these professionals should not be diminished.

What happens if a president defies a Supreme Court ruling? In this powerful segment from Episode 47: The Shadow Docket, Georgetown Law Professor and constitutional scholar Stephen Vladeck breaks down the chilling implications of such a scenario—and why the federal courts remain a critical bulwark even in turbulent times.

In this short but revealing clip, Professor Stephen Vladeck explains how a high-stakes Supreme Court decision allowed the Biden administration to remove razor wire at the Texas border—without offering any explanation for the ruling.

In today's short clip, constitutional scholar Stephen Vladeck explains why the Supreme Court's use of unsigned, unexplained decisions—known as the “shadow docket”—is so dangerous. He shares why this judicial behavior, even when done in good faith, undermines public trust and the Court's ability to function in our constitutional system.

In this bold and urgent moment from Episode 47 of See You In Court, Professor Stephen Vladeck (Georgetown Law) warns about a growing danger: a world where the federal government can bully law firms into silence by retaliating against them for doing their jobs. He shares why this is an existential threat to our legal system—and salutes the courageous lawyers who resigned from firms that gave in to political pressure.

In this excerpt from Episode 47, Professor Stephen Vladeck reflects on justice—not as a clean or easy ideal, but as something "messy" that builds public faith in neutral and principled governance. Listen to the full conversation for deeper insights into the shadow docket, due process, and the evolving role of courts in modern America.

In this stirring clip from Episode 47 of See You In Court, Professor Stephen Vladeck (Georgetown Law) joins co-host Lester Tate to spotlight a growing concern in today's legal landscape: law firms choosing political appeasement over principle.

In this powerful clip from See You In Court Episode 47, Professor Stephen Vladeck tackles a critical—and unsettling—question: What happens if a president simply ignores a Supreme Court ruling? Professor Vladeck breaks down the legal and institutional consequences if the federal government stops following court orders, including the collapse of criminal prosecutions, civil enforcement, and basic constitutional protections. He also draws a direct line between recent violations of lower court rulings—such as the deportations under the Alien Enemies Act—and the dangers ahead. While he cautions against overstating the risk, Vladeck reminds us: fidelity to the rule of law must be a red line for voters, Congress, and every American.

In this clip from See You In Court Episode 47, Robin Frazer Clark and Professor Stephen Vladeck discuss an urgent threat to the legal profession: political retaliation against law firms. When the current administration issued executive orders revoking security clearances for firms that represented political opponents, some firms chose to fight back — filing lawsuits and securing restraining orders. Others, however, capitulated, offering pro bono work to avoid conflict. Professor Vladeck explains why these executive actions are unconstitutional under the First Amendment—and why settling sends the wrong message. The conversation highlights a growing divide between firms standing firm and those bending to political pressure. This is a critical moment for the future of the rule of law — and for the integrity of the legal profession itself.

In this compelling moment from Episode 47, Professor Stephen Vladeck discusses a rare and rapid public response from Chief Justice John Roberts following a social media post by President Trump. Could this be the first real sign of judicial pushback?

Can the U.S. government deport someone without a hearing—or even proof of identity? In this powerful clip, Professor Stephen Vladeck, constitutional law expert and author of The Shadow Docket, explains why recent actions under the 1798 Alien Enemies Act should alarm every American. If the government doesn't need to prove you're undocumented, what's stopping them from targeting anyone? Vladeck exposes the dangers of bypassing judicial review and warns of the precedent this sets—not just for immigrants, but for all citizens.

In this brief clip from Episode 47, Professor Stephen Vladeck explains why judges need to write opinions—even on urgent or procedural rulings. When they don't, it feeds the perception of partisanship and erodes public trust. Hear why transparency in the courts isn't just a legal issue—it's a democratic one.

In this short clip from Episode 47, Professor Stephen Vladeck introduces the concept of the "shadow docket"—a little-known but powerful practice the U.S. Supreme Court uses to make major legal decisions without transparency. Find out why these rulings matter, and how they quietly shape the laws that affect us all.

Why is the Supreme Court making some of its most impactful decisions behind closed doors? In this episode, Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate welcome Professor Stephen Vladeck, author of the bestselling book The Shadow Docket, to discuss the rise of stealth rulings by the U.S. Supreme Court. Learn why unsigned and unexplained decisions—affecting everything from immigration to abortion—are becoming more common and why every American should be paying attention.

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In this concise yet critical clip from See You In Court, real estate attorney David Metzger explains Georgia's new Squatters Reform Act, detailing how it empowers law enforcement to address squatting cases swiftly and effectively. You'll learn about: ✅ How the law specifically targets unlawful squatting ✅ The new role of law enforcement issuing citations directly to squatters ✅ The three-day documentation rule squatters must now follow Stay informed and protect your property rights under Georgia law!

Real estate attorney David Metzger joins See You In Court to break down the Georgia Squatters Reform Act—what it changed, how it's enforced, and whether it's helping frustrated homeowners. Learn: ✅ Why 2023 saw a spike in squatting ✅ How the new law empowers police ✅ What happens if a squatter shows a fake lease ✅ Real-world effects on court backlogs

Before Georgia's new law, just one squatter removal could consume an entire day for the sheriff's department. In this clip, attorney David Metzger details the real-world strain on law enforcement—and how the Squatter Reform Act is helping everyone move faster and more safely.

Squatters taking over homes—it sounds unbelievable, but it's a growing issue in Georgia. In this episode, we sit down with real estate attorney David Metzger to break down the Georgia Squatter Reform Act and what it means for property owners. David shares eye-opening insights on how squatters gain access, the legal loopholes they've exploited, and how the new law is changing the game.

In 2023 and early 2024, Metro Atlanta property owners faced an alarming rise in squatter activity. Homeowners, real estate agents, and property managers couldn't get help from law enforcement or the courts. The frustration led to major pressure on the Georgia legislature—resulting in the Georgia Squatter Reform Act. In the complete episode clip, real estate attorney David Metzger breaks down:

In this compelling clip, former Deputy U.S. Attorney General Larry Thompson shares his unfiltered thoughts on justice, accountability, and the consequences of the January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol.

From the U.S. Department of Justice to corporate boardrooms, Larry D. Thompson has spent over five decades shaping the legal world. As U.S. Deputy Attorney General, he led critical reforms, and as General Counsel at PepsiCo, he navigated corporate legal challenges at the highest level. In this clip, Robin Frazer Clark reviews Thompson's remarkable career.   Listen to the complete episode to hear his insights on: ✅ The role of leadership in law and corporate governance ✅ How civil liberties are shaped by legal decisions ✅ His insights on the future of the justice system

In this clip from episode 45 of See You In Court, we discuss a lesson that every attorney should know—not every client is a good client. When legal advice is continuously ignored, it may be time to walk away. Hear how one attorney learned this firsthand from Judge Bell and why it's crucial to maintain ethical boundaries. Listen now and let us know: Should attorneys fire clients who refuse to take legal advice? #SeeYouInCourtPodcast #LegalAdvice #Lawyers #JusticeSystem #ClientManagement

n this thought-provoking episode of See You In Court, hosts Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate sit down with Larry D. Thompson, former U.S. Deputy Attorney General, for a deep dive into justice, fairness, and the power of the legal system. During the conversation, Lester Tate shares a powerful reflection on prosecutorial discretion, recalling a case where a defendant was convicted of a misdemeanor—yet the prosecution pushed for a prison sentence. His perspective challenges us to ask: Is justice about punishment, or about the fairness of the trial itself? This episode is packed with wisdom on the role of trials in justice, the balance between civil liberties and public safety, and reflections from his new book, Quiet Counsel: Looking Back on a Life of Service to the Law.