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    The Packet Pushers - Fat Pipe podcast is my favorite and main podcast at the moment. It covers a wide range of topics in Networking, allowing me to stay up to date with all the latest innovations and developments. I have been listening since 2011 and have witnessed the show not only maintain its high standard but also improve over time. Greg and Ethan have done an amazing job in maintaining their independence and providing valuable insights in their own unique way.

    One of the best aspects of this podcast is that it provides a wealth of technical knowledge without getting bogged down by sales and marketing hype. The hosts keep the discussions focused on the details that most network content tends to gloss over. This makes it an excellent resource for networking professionals who are looking for in-depth technical information.

    Another great aspect of this podcast is the variety of topics covered. From traditional route/switch and wireless to data center technologies, there is something for everyone in the networking field. The hosts bring on experts from various backgrounds, providing different perspectives and insights into these topics. This diversity keeps the content fresh and interesting.

    As for drawbacks, one could argue that the technical nature of this podcast may not be suitable for beginners or those with limited networking knowledge. However, I believe that even for less experienced individuals, listening to this podcast can be a valuable learning experience as long as they are willing to put in some effort to understand the technical concepts being discussed.

    In conclusion, The Packet Pushers - Fat Pipe podcast is an excellent resource for anyone working in networking or interested in staying up to date with the latest developments in this field. With its technical depth, independence, and variety of topics covered, it offers a unique listening experience that is hard to find elsewhere. Bravo to Ethan, Greg, and Tony for creating such an invaluable wealth of knowledge!



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    NB561: Kubernetes Retires Ingress NGINX; Are Data Centers Headed for Orbit?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 9, 2026 34:49


    Take a Network Break! We start with a trio of follow-ups, including a correction regarding Mplify certifications, Cisco proposing new OSI layers, and free-space optics. Our Red Alert sounds off about a remote code execution vulnerability in the Ivanti Endpoint Manager Mobile agent. On the news front, Broadcom announces new silicon for wireless APs for... Read more »

    HN813: What Should Networkers Know About Software Development (and Vice Versa)?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 6, 2026 57:33


    What should network engineers know about software development? What should software developers know about networking? Ethan and Drew sit down with Chris Rapier and Nick Buraglio to discuss why crossing these silos can improve outcomes for everyone. They break down why being a little curious about the infrastructure can help software developers write better code,... Read more »

    N4N048: QoS Fundamentals

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2026 83:53


    Quality of Service (QoS) is a huge topic with a punishingly large group of acronyms. Join Ethan and Holly as they help you build a mental framework of what QoS is and what it solves. Not only do they break down essential acronyms, they also discuss QoS fundamentals, define the major groups of QoS tools,... Read more »

    D2DO293: Haskell in the Modern Day

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 4, 2026 42:47


    Ned and Kyler sit down with Tikhon Jelvis to discuss Haskell and other niche programming languages. They explore how this decades-old language isn't just surviving, but thriving. They also break down how Haskell can provide distinct advantages over traditional programming, especially for complex domain modeling and concurrent applications. Episode Links: Copilot Language Haskell Project Haskell... Read more »

    PP095: OT and ICS – Where Digital and Physical Risks Meet

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2026 53:41


    Operation Technology (OT) and Industrial Control Systems (ICS) are where the digital world meets the physical world. These systems, which are critical to the operation of nuclear power plants, manufacturing sites, municipal power and water plants, and more, are under increasing attack. On today’s Packet Protector we return to the OT/ICS realm to talk about... Read more »

    NB560: Microsoft Doubles Down on Custom AI Chip; CrowdStrike Brandishes Big Bucks for Browser Security

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2026 33:41


    Take a Network Break! We’ve got Red Alerts for HPE Juniper Session Smart Routers and SolarWinds. In this week’s news, Microsoft debuts its second-generation AI inferencing chip, Mplify rolls out a new Carrier Ethernet certification for supporting AI workloads, and AWS upgrades its network firewall to spot GenAI application traffic and filter Web categories. Google... Read more »

    TNO054: AI Skills for CCIEs

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2026 51:53


    Let’s talk about AI for NetOps: It’s not just coming, it’s here. There are tools to use, skills to acquire, and we want to talk about what’s needed for highly certified network engineers to skill up in AI. What certification opportunities or paths exist? What developments do we think we’re going to see here? And... Read more »

    HN812: Nokia EDA: AI Ops You Can Trust (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2026 51:01


    AI is everywhere in networking right now, but most of it feels like hype. In this sponsored episode, we go deeper than buzzwords with Steven Butler from Nokia to explore what it takes to make AI Ops real, reliable, and trustworthy in production environments. If you want AI to deliver value, you need the fundamentals... Read more »

    LIU007: From Track to Tech: Navigating Career Change with Resilience

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 29, 2026 58:47


    Ifeanyi Otuonye was a decorated track and field athlete at Kansas State and even competed professionally. Then he made the leap to a Technical Account Manager role at Amazon Web Services. Alexis and Kevin sit down with Ifeanyi to discuss the difficulties of that career change. Ifeanyi explains why he chose cloud engineering, what he... Read more »

    NAN112: Inside the CU Boulder Network Engineering Master's Program

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 28, 2026 59:20


    Eric sits down with two graduates from the CU Boulder Networking Engineering Master's Program to discuss what they learned during their time in the program and how that translated into real world opportunities and experiences. They also offer some invaluable career advice from the “seven plus one” formula and the value of asking “dumb questions.”... Read more »

    PP094: Understanding OAuth and Reducing Authorization Risks

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2026 70:04


    OAuth is a widely used authorization (not authentication) protocol that lets a resource owner grant access to a resource using access tokens. These tokens define access attributes, including scope and length of time. OAuth can be used to grant access to human and non-human entities (for example, AI agents). OAuth is increasingly being abused by... Read more »

    NB559: Cisco Builds Nexus Switch for Intel AI Chips; TeraWave Promises 6Tbps from Space

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2026 44:59


    Take a Network Break! We start with a Red Alert in Oracle’s WebLogic Server Proxy Plugin for Apache or IIS, which has a severity score of 10. In the news, Fortinet warns that attackers have found a new exploit path against previously-patched vulnerabilities, Microsoft 365 services suffered an outage, and ServiceNow inks a deal with... Read more »

    HN811: What AI Startups Get Wrong

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 23, 2026 57:03


    What is the real-world impact of AI on network operations? Drew and Ethan have a chat with Carlos Pignataro, Founder & Principal at Blue Fern Consulting, to cut through the AI hype machine. Carlos offers a thoughtful, balanced take on where the industry is headed, and where it's missing the mark. Together they discuss Intent-Based... Read more »

    N4N047: Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2026 68:00


    Go beyond the basics to understand the mechanics that keep your default gateway from becoming a single point of failure. Ethan and Holly demystify Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP), which helps provide network redundancy. They break down everything from the VRRP election protocol to the protocol's unique communication methods. They also look back at previous... Read more »

    D2DO292: AI, Augmented Engineers, and the Timeless Principles of Software Architecture

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2026 46:58


    Ned and Kyler sit down with industry analyst Jon Collins for a fun and free-ranging discussion that covers everything from the changing landscape of software engineering to the importance of good architecture (physical and digital). They tackle the pros and cons of “Vibe Coding” as well as the “Augmentation Gap”, the idea that AI tools... Read more »

    NAN111: Automation, AI, and the Future of Branch Networking: Inside Cisco Unified Branch (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2026 39:39


    In this sponsored episode, Eric sits down with Lee Peterson, VP of Product Management for Secure WAN, at Cisco. Together they discuss how Cisco Unified Branch is helping organizations scale, automate, and secure their distributed environments. They also define the Branch Network, discuss the major challenges facing network teams, and walk through Cisco’s vision of... Read more »

    PP093: Security Priorities for 2026 – A Roundtable Discussion

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2026 62:53


    The start of a new year is a good time to assess what’s important. We’ve gathered some Packet Protector listeners to talk about their security priorities for 2026 in a roundtable discussion with hosts JJ and Drew. We talk about key risks for 2026, whether those risks have changed since last year, use cases for... Read more »

    NB558: Microsoft Buys Indulgences for Carbon Sins; Starlink Cleared for 7,500 More Satellites

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2026 27:21


    Take a Network Break! This week we start with follow-up from a perhaps not-so-red Red Alert, and then cover two very-red Red Alerts. On the news front, Ruckus Wireless gets a new parent company, and sources say Extreme Networks may be interested in bringing Ruckus into its fold. AT&T rolls out an IoT management offering,... Read more »

    TNO053: Ethernet Is Everywhere

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 16, 2026 50:12


    Ethernet is everywhere. Today we talk with one of the people responsible for this protocol’s ubiquity. Doug Boom is a veteran of the Ethernet development world. His code has helped landers reach Mars, submarines sail the deep seas, airplanes get to their gates, cars drive around town, and more. Doug walks us through the origins... Read more »

    HN810: AI in Network Operations: Pragmatism Over Hype (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 16, 2026 59:37


    Are you an AI skeptic or an enthusiast? Ethan and Drew sit down with Igor Tarasenko, Senior Director of Product Software Architecture and Engineering at Equinix, to break down the reality of AI in the network. In this sponsored episode, Tarasenko discusses why APIs are the new CLI, the critical need for observability in AI,... Read more »

    LIU006: Stay Technical While Expanding Your Influence

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2026 57:51


    Is it possible for IT professionals to remain technical when moving into roles that expand influence, scale, and reach? Matt Starling, Senior Director of Product Marketing at Ekahau and co-founder of the WiFi Ninjas podcast, joins Alexis and Kevin to share how your career can evolve beyond on-call operations without losing the technical core. His... Read more »

    NAN110: Bridging Industry, Academia, and the Future of Network Automation with Dr. Levi Perigo

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 14, 2026 58:35


    Eric Chou is joined by Dr. Levi Perigo, Scholar in Residence and Professor of Network Engineering at the University of Colorado, Boulder. They discuss Levi's non-traditional career path from being in the network automation industry for 20 years before shifting to academia and co-founding QuivAR. Levi also dives into the success of the CU Boulder... Read more »

    PP092: News Roundup–Old Gear Faces New Attacks, Cyber Trust Mark's Trust Issues, Alarms Howl for Kimwolf Botnet

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2026 51:52


    Everything old is new again in this Packet Protector news roundup, from end-of-life D-Link routers facing active exploits (and no patch coming) to a five-year-old Fortinet vulnerability being freshly targeted by threat actors (despite a patch having been available for five years). We also dig into a clever, multi-stage attack against hotel operators that could... Read more »

    NB557: Meta Goes Nuclear; Arista Taps EVPN VXLAN for Massive Mobility Domains

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 12, 2026 28:35


    Take a Network Break! The virtual donut factory is back from hiatus, and we’ve got a fresh batch to pass around as we discuss the week’s tech news. We start with an emergency patch for Cisco ISE, then dig into a set of new product announcements from Arista including a new ability to deploy wireless... Read more »

    HN809: EVPN All the Things!

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 9, 2026 68:39


    It's been over a decade since the first Packet Pushers podcast on EVPN. Now, guest Jeff McAdams can legitimately suggest that we “EVPN all the things.” Hosts Ethan Banks and Drew Conry-Murray dig into Jeff's stance on EVPN/VXLAN. They look at how VXLAN and EVPN work; talk about use cases in the data center, the... Read more »

    N4N046: In-Band vs. Out-of-Band Management

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2026 64:05


    Ethan and Holly discuss the major differences between In-band and Out-of-band (OOB) management and the pros and cons of both. They explore how to implement a proper OOB network and critical use cases where OOB is required. They also explain the differences and roles of the data plane, the control plane, and the management plane.... Read more »

    D2DO291: From Politics to Machine Learning and AI Engineering

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2026 41:43


    Marina Wyss, Senior Applied Scientist at Twitch, joins Kyler and Ned to discuss her unique path from political science to AI Engineering. Wyss clarifies the difference between AI Engineering and Machine Learning Engineering and offers practical advice for aspiring engineers who want to incorporate data science, AI, and machine learning into their work. She digs... Read more »

    N4N045: Audience Follow Up & 2026 Preview

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2025 59:01


    If you’re curious as to what Ethan and Holly have in store for 2026, they give you a sneak peak on today’s episode. Hint: Some of these topics might include letters like B, G, P, Q, o, S, A and I.  They also take time in this episode to answer listener questions, ranging from how... Read more »

    D2DO290: AI's Impact on Developer Productivity Vs. Development Productivity

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2025 46:12


    Ned Bellavance and Kyler Middleton are joined by Rachel Stephens, Research Director at RedMonk, to discuss the state of DevOps and the impact of AI. They explore the distinction between developer productivity and development productivity, underlined by a DORA report finding that while AI dramatically boosts individual developer productivity, it often fails to improve overall... Read more »

    NAN109: Simplify Your Network Operations with Extreme (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2025 49:28


    Today Eric Chou dives deep into network automation and operational simplicity with guest Hardik Ajmera, VP of Product Management at Extreme Networks. In this sponsored episode, they talk about the ‘network fabric', Extreme Platform ONE, and, of course, what's next with AI in the world of enterprise networking. Hardik also shares how customers in complex... Read more »

    PP091: News Roundup–Securing MCP, Hunting Backdoors, and Getting the Creeps From AI Kids' Toys

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2025 54:00


    Our final news roundup for 2025 is a holiday sampler of tasty, chewy (and a few yucky) confections. We look at a years-long exploit campaign that used browser extensions to steal credentials, inject malicious content, and track behavior; tracks ongoing exploits using the React2Shell vulnerability; and debates whether a surveillance camera maker’s pledge to follow... Read more »

    NB556: 2025 Wrap: Insatiable AI, the Worst Top 5, Space Networking Surges, and More

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2025 48:45


    Take a Network Break! We close out 2025 with a look back at some of the stories and trends that captured our attention this year. We start with the top five vendors with the worst track records in 2025 for zero-days in critical enterprise infrastructure. On the news front, we discuss the insanity of the... Read more »

    TNO052: Internet History with Len Bosack

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2025 65:39


    Len Bosack, co-founder of Cisco Systems and the CEO of XKL, sits down for a discussion with Scott Robohn. Len shares how he went from a mathematician to being responsible for pioneering the widespread commercialization of LAN technology. We also get to hear his firsthand account of building the first multi-protocol routers at Stanford and... Read more »

    HN808: Is IT a Young Person's Game?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2025 50:46


    Is the ideal IT employee just leaving college or a veteran with years of experience? Russ White joins Ethan Banks and Drew Conry-Murray to discuss the complexities of this question. Younger professionals just out of college are more willing to work longer hours or unpopular shifts, learn new tools and skills, and take risks. Older... Read more »

    LIU005: The Importance of Community In a Networking Career

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2025 52:19


    AJ Murray joins Kevin and Alexis to share his unique journey into tech, pivoting away from aviation maintenance into networking. Together they explore the importance of person-to-person networking and building a community in order to be successful. They also talk about the reality of burnout, which ultimately led AJ to step away from his podcast.... Read more »

    NAN108: Perspectives, Hopes, and Challenges of Young Network Engineers

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2025 71:13


    Let’s hear from the next generation of network engineers. Eric Chou sits down with Sem Eyob and Damon Hoody, two early-career network engineers, to talk about how they got into the profession and where they hope to go. They share their views on AI and its effect on their generation, their struggles finding entry level... Read more »

    D2DO289: Instana: Leading the Future of Observability (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2025 37:16


    As AI tools and agentic AI become part of how applications are developed, delivered, and managed, application performance monitoring and observability have to adapt. Ned Bellavance sits down with Drew Flowers and Jacob Yackenovich from IBM Instana about where these fields sit today, and the potential impacts of AI. They detail the challenges of application... Read more »

    PP090: Why Native Controls Aren't Enough to Protect Your Cloud Workspaces (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2025 46:37


    Cloud-based workspaces such as Google Workspace are often the backbone of an organization. But they also face threats from spam and phishing, account takeovers, and illicit access to sensitive documents and files. On today's Packet Protector we talk with sponsor Material Security about how it brings additional layers of protection to Google Workspace, including email... Read more »

    NB555: AI and APIs Drive HPE's Dual-Platform WLAN Strategy; Dell, HPE Dangle VMware Alternatives

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2025 47:06


    Take a Network Break! Our Red Alert calls out a dangerous vulnerability in the popular open-source React library. On the news front, HPE decides on a “both and” strategy for its two wireless portfolios and rolls out an option to let customers pick and choose among cross-platform features in Mist and Aruba Networking Central through... Read more »

    HN807: A ‘CLI Lifer' No More

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2025 52:23


    Andy Lapteff once considered himself a ‘CLI lifer.’ As a network engineer he wasn’t interested in Python. He didn’t want to learn to code. He had no desire to embrace any of the developer-like processes and tools creeping into the profession, particularly around network automation. That’s changed. On today’s Heavy Networking, Andy shares the professional,... Read more »

    TNO051: Networks That Do: From Automated to Autonomous Networks with Meter (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2025 39:20


    Will it be possible to have fully autonomous networks in the near future? Anil Varanasi, CEO and Co-Founder of Meter, joins Scott Robohn in this sponsored episode to discuss the ongoing evolution from automated to autonomous networks. Anil breaks down how Meter differentiates from other networking vendors, discusses how Meter’s network products are vertically integrated... Read more »

    N4N044: Redundancy Vs. High Availability Part 2 – HA Networking Isn't Free

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2025 56:29


    In Part 1 of Redundancy vs. High Availability, we said that sometimes high availability and redundancy are considered to be the same thing, but we disagree. Holly and Ethan do agree that high availability can be considered a network design goal, and that redundancy is just one technique that can be used to help make... Read more »

    D2DO288: Technology, Career, and Finding a Purpose with Deana Solis

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2025 47:29


    Ned and Kyler sit down with Deana Solis, a freelance FinOps engineer and mentor. They discuss the undervalued skills of communication, look at the inherent biases and misplaced confidence of AI models, and offer guidance for those starting their careers. Deana also talks about her journey to discover the intersection of technology, career, and finding... Read more »

    PP089: Hidden Wi-Fi Misconfigurations and Wi-Fi 7 Issues to Be Aware Of

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2025 62:49


    There may be misconfigurations and other problems lurking in your wireless network. From a lack of peer isolation to poor segmentation to RADIUS problems and vendor fails, these issues can make your WLAN less secure. Jennifer “JJ” Minella goes from Packet Protector co-host to guest as she discusses these issues with Drew Conry-Murray. This episode... Read more »

    NB554: AWS, Google Link Public Clouds; Trading Data Center Has Zero Chill

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2025 36:44


    Take a Network Break! We start with listener follow-up on Fortinet’s vulnerability numbering, and sound a red alert about an authentication bypass vulnerability in ASUS's AiCloud service. AWS and Google announce a joint cross-cloud interconnect offering (other cloud providers are invited to play), Microsoft and Ciena pitch a new design to boost optical network resiliency,... Read more »

    NAN107: How AI is Changing the Networking Landscape

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 26, 2025 66:19


    The world of networking is changing at lightning speed thanks to AI. Today Eric sits down with Chris Kane to explore this new reality for network engineers.  Together, they dive deeper into some of the changes that will be coming next, breaking down the technical demands and mindset shifts of intellectual curiosity and humility necessary... Read more »

    PP088: How Fortinet Delivers Web App Security in the AI Era (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 25, 2025 44:32


    Web applications have always been tricky to protect. They're meant to be accessible over the Internet, which exposes them to malicious actors, they're designed to take end-user inputs, which can be manipulated for malicious purposes, and they often handle sensitive data. Then the rise of public cloud and microservices architectures added new layers of complexity... Read more »

    NB553: Palo Alto Networks Acquires Chronosphere; New Agentic AI Products for Orchestration and Networking

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 24, 2025 47:22


    Take a Network Break!  We start with a relative path traversal vulnerability in Fortinet’s FortiWeb.  We’ll move on to an acquisition by Palo Alto Networks, another hiccup from our friends at Cloudflare, some AI announcements by Itential and Gluware, and finish with first quarter 2026 fiscal results from Palo Alto Networks. AdSpot Sponsor: Itential  ... Read more »

    TNO050: Resiliency and Transparency with Andy Lapteff

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2025 57:59


    Today Scott interviews Andy Lapteff. He opens up about his non-linear career path, starting from a working class background and his physical jobs in telecom to becoming a senior product marketing manager and podcaster. Join us as Andy shares candid stories of how he developed his resilience and the heartwarming origin story for the Art... Read more »

    HN806: Let's Get NUTS!

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2025 46:07


    Unit testing is a software development practice for checking that an individual component of code works before integrating that unit with other components in a larger program. A new open source project called Network Unit Testing System, or NUTS, brings the same concept to network automation. The big idea is that by incorporating unit tests into... Read more »

    N4N043: Redundancy vs. High Availability Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 20, 2025 60:28


    In today’s chat, Holly and Ethan consider a question from listener Douglas who asks, “How do you approach designing a network for high availability and redundancy?” They start by defining differences between redundancy and high availability, and talk about Holly’s experience with her own customers. Then they share examples of how to achieve redundancy in... Read more »

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