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The most popular shows from the Packet Pushers Podcast Network in one feed. 1-The Weekly Show (network engineering). 2-Priority Queue (even more network engineering). 3-Datanauts (the full IT stack including cloud). 4-Network Break (IT news and analysis from the week). 5-Briefings In Brief (intere…

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    The Packet Pushers - Fat Pipe podcast is my favorite and main podcast at the moment. It covers a wide range of topics in Networking, allowing me to stay up to date with all the latest innovations and developments. I have been listening since 2011 and have witnessed the show not only maintain its high standard but also improve over time. Greg and Ethan have done an amazing job in maintaining their independence and providing valuable insights in their own unique way.

    One of the best aspects of this podcast is that it provides a wealth of technical knowledge without getting bogged down by sales and marketing hype. The hosts keep the discussions focused on the details that most network content tends to gloss over. This makes it an excellent resource for networking professionals who are looking for in-depth technical information.

    Another great aspect of this podcast is the variety of topics covered. From traditional route/switch and wireless to data center technologies, there is something for everyone in the networking field. The hosts bring on experts from various backgrounds, providing different perspectives and insights into these topics. This diversity keeps the content fresh and interesting.

    As for drawbacks, one could argue that the technical nature of this podcast may not be suitable for beginners or those with limited networking knowledge. However, I believe that even for less experienced individuals, listening to this podcast can be a valuable learning experience as long as they are willing to put in some effort to understand the technical concepts being discussed.

    In conclusion, The Packet Pushers - Fat Pipe podcast is an excellent resource for anyone working in networking or interested in staying up to date with the latest developments in this field. With its technical depth, independence, and variety of topics covered, it offers a unique listening experience that is hard to find elsewhere. Bravo to Ethan, Greg, and Tony for creating such an invaluable wealth of knowledge!



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    N4N045: Audience Follow Up & 2026 Preview

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2025 59:01


    If you’re curious as to what Ethan and Holly have in store for 2026, they give you a sneak peak on today’s episode. Hint: Some of these topics might include letters like B, G, P, Q, o, S, A and I.  They also take time in this episode to answer listener questions, ranging from how... Read more »

    D2DO290: AI's Impact on Developer Productivity Vs. Development Productivity

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2025 46:12


    Ned Bellavance and Kyler Middleton are joined by Rachel Stephens, Research Director at RedMonk, to discuss the state of DevOps and the impact of AI. They explore the distinction between developer productivity and development productivity, underlined by a DORA report finding that while AI dramatically boosts individual developer productivity, it often fails to improve overall... Read more »

    NAN109: Simplify Your Network Operations with Extreme (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2025 49:28


    Today Eric Chou dives deep into network automation and operational simplicity with guest Hardik Ajmera, VP of Product Management at Extreme Networks. In this sponsored episode, they talk about the ‘network fabric', Extreme Platform ONE, and, of course, what's next with AI in the world of enterprise networking. Hardik also shares how customers in complex... Read more »

    PP091: News Roundup–Securing MCP, Hunting Backdoors, and Getting the Creeps From AI Kids' Toys

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2025 54:00


    Our final news roundup for 2025 is a holiday sampler of tasty, chewy (and a few yucky) confections. We look at a years-long exploit campaign that used browser extensions to steal credentials, inject malicious content, and track behavior; tracks ongoing exploits using the React2Shell vulnerability; and debates whether a surveillance camera maker’s pledge to follow... Read more »

    NB556: 2025 Wrap: Insatiable AI, the Worst Top 5, Space Networking Surges, and More

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2025 48:45


    Take a Network Break! We close out 2025 with a look back at some of the stories and trends that captured our attention this year. We start with the top five vendors with the worst track records in 2025 for zero-days in critical enterprise infrastructure. On the news front, we discuss the insanity of the... Read more »

    TNO052: Internet History with Len Bosack

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2025 65:39


    Len Bosack, co-founder of Cisco Systems and the CEO of XKL, sits down for a discussion with Scott Robohn. Len shares how he went from a mathematician to being responsible for pioneering the widespread commercialization of LAN technology. We also get to hear his firsthand account of building the first multi-protocol routers at Stanford and... Read more »

    HN808: Is IT a Young Person's Game?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2025 50:46


    Is the ideal IT employee just leaving college or a veteran with years of experience? Russ White joins Ethan Banks and Drew Conry-Murray to discuss the complexities of this question. Younger professionals just out of college are more willing to work longer hours or unpopular shifts, learn new tools and skills, and take risks. Older... Read more »

    LIU005: The Importance of Community In a Networking Career

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2025 52:19


    AJ Murray joins Kevin and Alexis to share his unique journey into tech, pivoting away from aviation maintenance into networking. Together they explore the importance of person-to-person networking and building a community in order to be successful. They also talk about the reality of burnout, which ultimately led AJ to step away from his podcast.... Read more »

    NAN108: Perspectives, Hopes, and Challenges of Young Network Engineers

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2025 71:13


    Let’s hear from the next generation of network engineers. Eric Chou sits down with Sem Eyob and Damon Hoody, two early-career network engineers, to talk about how they got into the profession and where they hope to go. They share their views on AI and its effect on their generation, their struggles finding entry level... Read more »

    D2DO289: Instana: Leading the Future of Observability (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2025 37:16


    As AI tools and agentic AI become part of how applications are developed, delivered, and managed, application performance monitoring and observability have to adapt. Ned Bellavance sits down with Drew Flowers and Jacob Yackenovich from IBM Instana about where these fields sit today, and the potential impacts of AI. They detail the challenges of application... Read more »

    PP090: Why Native Controls Aren't Enough to Protect Your Cloud Workspaces (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2025 46:37


    Cloud-based workspaces such as Google Workspace are often the backbone of an organization. But they also face threats from spam and phishing, account takeovers, and illicit access to sensitive documents and files. On today's Packet Protector we talk with sponsor Material Security about how it brings additional layers of protection to Google Workspace, including email... Read more »

    NB555: AI and APIs Drive HPE's Dual-Platform WLAN Strategy; Dell, HPE Dangle VMware Alternatives

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2025 47:06


    Take a Network Break! Our Red Alert calls out a dangerous vulnerability in the popular open-source React library. On the news front, HPE decides on a “both and” strategy for its two wireless portfolios and rolls out an option to let customers pick and choose among cross-platform features in Mist and Aruba Networking Central through... Read more »

    HN807: A ‘CLI Lifer' No More

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 8, 2025 52:23


    Andy Lapteff once considered himself a ‘CLI lifer.’ As a network engineer he wasn’t interested in Python. He didn’t want to learn to code. He had no desire to embrace any of the developer-like processes and tools creeping into the profession, particularly around network automation. That’s changed. On today’s Heavy Networking, Andy shares the professional,... Read more »

    TNO051: Networks That Do: From Automated to Autonomous Networks with Meter (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 5, 2025 39:20


    Will it be possible to have fully autonomous networks in the near future? Anil Varanasi, CEO and Co-Founder of Meter, joins Scott Robohn in this sponsored episode to discuss the ongoing evolution from automated to autonomous networks. Anil breaks down how Meter differentiates from other networking vendors, discusses how Meter’s network products are vertically integrated... Read more »

    N4N044: Redundancy Vs. High Availability Part 2 – HA Networking Isn't Free

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2025 56:29


    In Part 1 of Redundancy vs. High Availability, we said that sometimes high availability and redundancy are considered to be the same thing, but we disagree. Holly and Ethan do agree that high availability can be considered a network design goal, and that redundancy is just one technique that can be used to help make... Read more »

    D2DO288: Technology, Career, and Finding a Purpose with Deana Solis

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2025 47:29


    Ned and Kyler sit down with Deana Solis, a freelance FinOps engineer and mentor. They discuss the undervalued skills of communication, look at the inherent biases and misplaced confidence of AI models, and offer guidance for those starting their careers. Deana also talks about her journey to discover the intersection of technology, career, and finding... Read more »

    PP089: Hidden Wi-Fi Misconfigurations and Wi-Fi 7 Issues to Be Aware Of

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2025 62:49


    There may be misconfigurations and other problems lurking in your wireless network. From a lack of peer isolation to poor segmentation to RADIUS problems and vendor fails, these issues can make your WLAN less secure. Jennifer “JJ” Minella goes from Packet Protector co-host to guest as she discusses these issues with Drew Conry-Murray. This episode... Read more »

    NB554: AWS, Google Link Public Clouds; Trading Data Center Has Zero Chill

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2025 36:44


    Take a Network Break! We start with listener follow-up on Fortinet’s vulnerability numbering, and sound a red alert about an authentication bypass vulnerability in ASUS's AiCloud service. AWS and Google announce a joint cross-cloud interconnect offering (other cloud providers are invited to play), Microsoft and Ciena pitch a new design to boost optical network resiliency,... Read more »

    NAN107: How AI is Changing the Networking Landscape

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 26, 2025 66:19


    The world of networking is changing at lightning speed thanks to AI. Today Eric sits down with Chris Kane to explore this new reality for network engineers.  Together, they dive deeper into some of the changes that will be coming next, breaking down the technical demands and mindset shifts of intellectual curiosity and humility necessary... Read more »

    PP088: How Fortinet Delivers Web App Security in the AI Era (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 25, 2025 44:32


    Web applications have always been tricky to protect. They're meant to be accessible over the Internet, which exposes them to malicious actors, they're designed to take end-user inputs, which can be manipulated for malicious purposes, and they often handle sensitive data. Then the rise of public cloud and microservices architectures added new layers of complexity... Read more »

    NB553: Palo Alto Networks Acquires Chronosphere; New Agentic AI Products for Orchestration and Networking

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 24, 2025 47:22


    Take a Network Break!  We start with a relative path traversal vulnerability in Fortinet’s FortiWeb.  We’ll move on to an acquisition by Palo Alto Networks, another hiccup from our friends at Cloudflare, some AI announcements by Itential and Gluware, and finish with first quarter 2026 fiscal results from Palo Alto Networks. AdSpot Sponsor: Itential  ... Read more »

    TNO050: Resiliency and Transparency with Andy Lapteff

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2025 57:59


    Today Scott interviews Andy Lapteff. He opens up about his non-linear career path, starting from a working class background and his physical jobs in telecom to becoming a senior product marketing manager and podcaster. Join us as Andy shares candid stories of how he developed his resilience and the heartwarming origin story for the Art... Read more »

    HN806: Let's Get NUTS!

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2025 46:07


    Unit testing is a software development practice for checking that an individual component of code works before integrating that unit with other components in a larger program. A new open source project called Network Unit Testing System, or NUTS, brings the same concept to network automation. The big idea is that by incorporating unit tests into... Read more »

    N4N043: Redundancy vs. High Availability Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 20, 2025 60:28


    In today’s chat, Holly and Ethan consider a question from listener Douglas who asks, “How do you approach designing a network for high availability and redundancy?” They start by defining differences between redundancy and high availability, and talk about Holly’s experience with her own customers. Then they share examples of how to achieve redundancy in... Read more »

    D2DO287: Leveling Up in Data Science

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2025 37:51


    Ever wonder what it takes to level up your career in data science? Senior Data Scientist Darya Petrashka joins Ned and Kyler to share her personal journey from management and linguistics into data science, the real difference between a junior and a senior role, and helps us get under the “data science umbrella” to see... Read more »

    PP087: Why SBOMs Are Cooler and More Useful Than You Think

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2025 46:08


    Just what’s inside that commercial software you bought? Does it contain open-source components, NPM packages, or other third-party code? How could you find out? The answer is a Software Bill of Materials, or SBOM, a machine-readable inventory of a finished piece of software. Why should you care about SBOMs? Our guest, Natalie Somersall, is here... Read more »

    NB552: Nokia Switches On AI Ops; IBM Seeks a Quantum of Advantage

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 17, 2025 44:58


    Take a Network Break! Red Hat Samba server has a remote command execution vulnerability, and we cover some follow-up on fusion as a viable energy source (still a work in progress). On the news front, we search for signs in SoftBank’s sale of its Nividia stake, Mplify debuts a new certificate on carrier Ethernet for... Read more »

    HN805: The Past, Present, and Future of NANOG

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 14, 2025 47:46


    NANOG, or the North American Network Operation Group, is an organization committed to the continuing advancement of an open, secure, and robust Internet. At the NANOG Conference 95 in late October 2025, Ethan Banks chatted with Steve Feldman, a member of NANOG’s Board of Directors. Steve has been involved with NANOG since the very first... Read more »

    LIU004: From Fast Food to Leading Operations at an ISP

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2025 62:07


    Think you need a degree or a ton of certificates to succeed in tech? Think again. Matthew Oborne joins our hosts Alexis Bertholf and Kevin Nanns to discuss how he went from working fast food to leading operations at an ISP. Your starting point doesn't define your ceiling; resilience, adaptability, and a willingness to learn... Read more »

    NAN106: Unimus: Network Automation By and For Network Engineers (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2025 44:49


    Tomas Kirnak, CEO of Unimus, joins Eric Chou in this sponsored episode to introduce Unimus, an on-premise network configuration management system built by network engineers to solve real-world problems. In this deep dive they discuss Unimus' proprietary “Behavioral Tree” for automatic device discovery, the platform’s vendor support, the 70/30 rule, and lowering the barrier for... Read more »

    PP086: Using Let's Encrypt and the ACME Protocol for Domain Validation Certificates

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2025 44:39


    Certificates are the socks of IT—everyone needs them, and you always lose track of a few. On today’s show we dive into the ACME protocol, an IETF standard to help automate how a domain owner gets a domain validation certificate from a Certificate Authority (CA). Our guest, Ed Harmoush, a former network engineer with AWS... Read more »

    NB551: Cisco Adds AI to Tech Support; Cryptography Hits a Post-Quantum Milestone

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2025 28:59


    Take a Network Break! We start with a critical vulnerability in Cisco’s Unified Contact Center Express. On the news front it’s a Cisco triple play: the company brings AI to professional services and tech support with Cisco IQ, debuts converged infrastructure for the AI edge, and launches a new cert geared for running AI data... Read more »

    HN804: How Prisma SASE Builds on Public Clouds for Scale, Resiliency (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 7, 2025 56:07


    How do you architect a Secure Access Service Edge (SASE) to provide critical security services to millions of endpoints distributed across the planet? How do you build such a service for scale, performance, and resiliency? One option is to build your own PoPs or use colocation facilities, run your own infrastructure stack, and connect everything... Read more »

    TNO049: Automated Network Testing and Validation

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 7, 2025 52:50


    What does network testing and validation really mean? How do testing and validation fit within an automation workflow? Is it possible to run meaningful tests without coding skills? Dan Wade from BlueAlly answers these questions and offers practical insights into building trust in automation through test environments, using AI for ideation and problem-solving, and personal... Read more »

    N4N042: Meet MACsec

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 6, 2025 52:19


    MACsec is a protocol for encrypting Ethernet frames on a local (though not always local) network. Ethan Banks and Holly Metlitzky have an ELI5 (explain like I’m 5) discussion as to what exactly is MACsec and how it differs from IPsec. They talk about when and whether you need to implement MACsec with all the... Read more »

    D2DO286: Scaling Kubernetes Across Clouds – Identity, DNS, and Security

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 5, 2025 40:39


    If you think managing Kubernetes clusters is hard, what about managing Kubernetes clusters across three different public clouds? We dive into the challenges that arises from running multi-cloud Kubernetes workloads. These challenges include workload identity, DNS query resolutions, and security. Here to help us navigate this complexity and offer possible solutions is Goutam Tadi, Staff... Read more »

    PP085: News Roundup – Naked Satellite Signals, Account Recovery Buddies, Busting Ghost Networks

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 5, 2025 52:28


    Did you know college students are snooping on satellite transmissions? On today’s news roundup we discuss new research in which university investigators use off-the-shelf equipment to intercept traffic from geostationary satellites and discover that a lot of it is unencrypted. We also dig into the credential hygiene lessons we can learn from a corpus of... Read more »

    NAN105: Campus Network Automation, Powered by Cisco Agentic Workflows (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 5, 2025 44:30


    Cisco Workflows is a new platform that makes network automation easier, smarter, and safer. On today’s episode, sponsored by Cisco, we get introduced to Cisco Workflows by Stephen Orr, Distinguished Solutions Engineer; and Reid Butler, Director of Product Management. They break down how Workflows helps you ditch repetitive tasks, roll out changes faster, and plug... Read more »

    NB550: A Cornucopia of AI Switches; DNS Strikes Again

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2025 29:38


    Take a Network Break! We start with some educational content on Small Modular Nuclear Reactors, and sound the alarm about a sandbox escape affecting the Firefox browser. On the news front, a DNS issue triggers a major Azure outage that affected numerous services and caused problems around the globe, Palo Alto Networks announces enhancements to... Read more »

    1031 TNO048: Ops to Orchestrated: An Architect's Automation Journey

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2025 42:09


    On today’s show, sponsored by Itential, we talk about automation in the real world. Guest Jesse Ford is an automation architect at Itential. We talk about his career journey, how he got into network automation, how he decides which is the best tool for a job, and why tool diversity isn’t the same as chaos.... Read more »

    HN803: How to Start a Networking Meetup

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2025 58:47


    On today's episode, we take a break from one's and zero's for a discussion about starting a networking meetup. Our guest is Steinn “Steinzi” Örvar, who recently founded the ISNOG, a network operators' group in Iceland. We quiz Steinzi about what worked and what didn't. We also pick his brain for the nitty-gritty details about... Read more »

    LIU003: A Chat With ‘The Cloud Therapist'

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2025 44:24


    Your background and experiences outside of tech can become a significant factor in your tech career. Guest Chris Williams is a good example; he talks about how his undergraduate and graduate studies in psychology influenced his work as a Developer Relations Manger at Hashicorp. Hosts Alexis Bertholf and Kevin Nanns chat with him about how... Read more »

    PP084: Inside the CVE Process With Cisco (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2025 44:50


    CVEs, or Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures, are such a routine aspect of tech that most IT pros probably take them for granted. But like many things we take for granted, the CVE process takes some serious organizational infrastructure to function. On today's Packet Protector, sponsored by Cisco, we talk about the organizations and processes that... Read more »

    NAN104: The Art and Science of Writing a Network Automation Book

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2025 57:53


    Host Eric Chou talks with Jeff Kala, co-author of the newly released “Network Automation Cookbook 2nd Edition,” to discuss his book and the experiences that led him from networking to network automation author. They discuss Jeff’s learning style and why it was helpful when working on his book. Lastly, they dig into Jeff’s predictions on... Read more »

    NB549: Startups Take on Switch, ASIC Incumbents; Google Claims Quantum Advantage

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2025 49:32


    Take a Network Break! Companies spying on…I mean, monitoring…their employees via software called WorkExaminer should be aware of a login bypass that needs to be locked down. On the news front, we opine on whether it’s worth trying to design your way around AWS outages, and speculate on the prospects of a new Ethernet switch... Read more »

    HN802: Unifying Networking and Security with Fortinet SASE: Architecture, Reality, and Lessons Learned (Sponsored)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2025 58:39


    The architecture and tech stack of a Secure Access Service Edge (SASE) solution will influence how the service performs, the robustness of its security controls, and the complexity of its operations. Sponsor Fortinet joins Heavy Networking to make the case that a unified offering, which integrates SD-WAN and SSE from a single vendor, provides a... Read more »

    TNO047: Advice From Both Sides of the Network Aisle

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2025 49:35


    Senad Palislamovic has held many roles in his time, from engineer to network operator to sales engineer and back again. He’s been around long enough to see trends come and go. Senad visits Total Network Operations to share some of his observations on network automation, AI for NetOps, and the quality of network data. Senad... Read more »

    N4N041: Switched Virtual Interface (SVI) and Integrated Routing and Bridging (IRB)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2025 49:58


    If you’ve ever wondered what the difference is between a Switched Virtual Interface (SVI) and Integrated Routing and Bridging (IRB), today’s show is for you! Ethan Banks and Holly Metlitzky start with some history and the basics of communication between layer 2 and layer 3 and then explain how the concepts of SVI and IRB... Read more »

    D2DO285: The Death of IaC Has Been Greatly Exaggerated

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2025 39:52


    While declaring the death of Infrastructure as Code (IaC) or Terraform may get you clicks on LinkedIn, IaC is alive and kicking. On today’s Day Two DevOps we talk about why IaC still matters. Guest Malcolm Matalka argues that IaC provides the tools and a model for managing infrastructure across its lifecycle in a structured... Read more »

    PP083: A CISO's Perspective on Model Context Protocol (MCP)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2025 44:03


    Model Context Protocol (MCP) is an open-source protocol that enables AI agents to connect to data, tools, workflows, and other agents both within and outside of enterprise borders. As organizations dive head-first into AI projects, MCP and other agentic protocols are being quickly adopted. And that means security and network teams need to understand how... Read more »

    NB548: Broadcom Brings Chips to Wi-Fi 8 Party; Attorneys General Scrutinize HPE/Juniper Settlement

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2025 29:16


    Take a Network Break! On today’s coverage, F5 releases an emergency security update after state-backed threat actors breach internal systems, and North Korean attackers use the blockchain to host and hide malware. Broadcom is shipping an 800G NIC aimed at AI workloads, and Broadcom joins the Wi-Fi 8 party early with a sampling of pre-standard... Read more »

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