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The second edition of Chi Chi's book club. This time, discussing Kawabata Yasunari's THE SOUND OF THE MOUNTAIN. If you'd like to participate in the book club and join us next month for our discussion of Aldous Huxley's BRAVE NEW WORLD, subscribe to I'M SO POPULAR on Patreon for access along with paywalled episodes of ISP, the entire SIRENS untucked phenomena, exclusive photos and more: patreon.com/imsopopular (I'M SO POPULAR S3.E37)

Welcome to the FuturePerfect Podcast where we talk with compelling people breaking new ground in art, media, and entertainment. This podcast is produced by FuturePerfect Studio, an extended reality studio creating immersive experiences for global audiences. Visit our website futureperfect.studio for more details.The text version of this interview has been edited for length and clarity. Find the full audio version above or in your favorite podcast app.For episode 006, Wayne Ashley interviews Andrew Keller, founder of We Few Group, a post-media company that manages singers and songwriters, and develops brand partnerships and ventures with internationally known visual and musical artists. Making innovative use of blockchain technologies and NFTs, Andrew has been building compelling projects with such noted organizations as the David Bowie Estate and singer-songwriter Stefan Storm.Early career at Columbia RecordsLet me start right off by saying how excited I am to be speaking to someone who's been part of the music industry for over 20 years. As much as I love music, I've had very little access to the inside workings of the business. You've had these long relationships with labels like Columbia and Capitol Records. What are some of the most important insights you've gained over the last two decades?Andrew Keller: One of the biggest insights I've gained is that change is necessary and hard. When you're dealing with global major labels it's really hard to make noticeable changes. There's a lot of people working at major labels who are innovative and want to do good. It's just really hard to turn a gigantic ship around. You're dealing with all sorts of policies and god knows how many different types of contracts that were written over the years.How did you get started at Columbia Records and what were your major focuses were when you were there?AK: I started at Columbia as a 17 year old and was a total music-head. I grew up in New York City so I had access to absolutely everything, and thankfully, I had parents who were simultaneously really supportive and also slightly oblivious. From the time I was 13 or 14 I was going out to places I probably shouldn't have been and exploring all sorts of different scenes from nightclubs to hardcore and punk shows to mainstream pop shows. I was really giving myself a crazy education in different subcultures and figuring out little scenes and pockets that had their own worlds, archetypes, and systems in place. And they're probably all relatively similar, it's just people wearing different clothes and different hair. But the whole concept of having these scenes and worlds always excited me. It kind of all played into ideas of identity—sonic identity and visual identity.I was going to lots of shows around 2002 when there was this giant emergence of bands in the tri-state area who were coming out of the punk scene. And it became kind of this pop-punk, emo, screamo post-hardcore thing. I refer to it lovingly as the Warped Tour-scene, which was this festival that traveled around the US for years. There was a ton of attention on bands that I was friends with and bands that I had built relationships with as a fan.One thing kind of led to another and I ended up getting hired as a junior A&R scout / assistant at Columbia and got to work for some amazing people. One of whom is kind of this incredibly legendary small bald man named Matt Pinfield, who was a DJ and then VJ on MTV. A lot of the time we kind of ended up having a deal where he would get booked to DJ and then I would basically cover his set and he'd split the money with me if he had to leave.So I started DJing and it was just this awesome moment in time where I was really young and exposed to so many people. It became clear to me at that point that I just loved being around creative people. I was never in a band. I don't sing. I don't consider myself an artist in any way, shape or form. I do consider myself a creative person and a professional fan. I realized early on that for me it was gonna be about being the conduit and the kind of middle man between the artist and the rest of the world.That period of time was really incredible. I got to work on MGMT's first two albums as a coordinator then started to sign bands on my own like Cults and St. Lucia and doing stuff in the dance space with Krewella and Dillon Francis. And then one of the last things I got to do at Columbia was Bring Me the Horizon, which as a metal kid was unreal. And that was all under a guy named Ashley Newton, who is still one of my closest friends and mentors. He was responsible for signing Spice Girls, Massive Attack, Daft Punk, and Pharrell. Ultimately I went with him and Steve Barnett, who had been the chairman of Columbia, over to Capitol Records when Steve was relaunching Capitol.Streaming music, shifts in the industry, and joining Capitol RecordsI'm very interested in the sort of crises that upend one's assumptions about the world and motivate people to do something radically different than what they've been doing. You mentioned inertia in the music industry when we talked earlier. What happened that caused you to leave Columbia, join Capitol and eventually start your own company?AK: There were a few things. I was 30 and had started at Columbia when I was 17 and I really wanted a change. I loved my artists and everyone I worked with. It really was a family, but I was too comfortable. If you do A&R at a label your real challenge at the end of the day is to sell records. Your goal is to find artists, help them make the best record possible and have as much success as you can. There's a million ways to do it, and I'm not even saying I was great at it, but it's a very linear goal. You go from point A to point B, and that's fine, but it had just done so much and I needed a change.So Steve Barnett called me and said what would you want to do if you were going to stay at a label? And my answer was that streaming was starting to become really dominant. And the thing that streaming changed was access to global music. Before streaming if you were a British band you would sign to a label in the UK for the world. But unless something really took off, you might not even get a US release. When Spotify started putting out music, for the most part, nothing was geo-locked. Everything was coming out day and date, but labels were still working territorially.So I said to Steve, I think there's gonna be a really big shift in the way music is consumed from an international standpoint and I wanted to create “international A&R 2.0” for streaming. So off I went to Capitol Records where I started figuring out this whole system. And also taking systems that were already in place and trying to break them because there were things that didn't make sense to me and that I thought needed to be changed. Part of that was really just being the ambassador and being the person who could go and have some difficult conversations. But also go and represent Capitol around the world. It was a lot of time on airplanes.I had a ton of fun at Capitol. I got to partner with Lewis Capaldi who is on his arena tour right now and is a fantastic artist. I introduced Capitol to SM Entertainment, one of the biggest K-pop labels in the world, and they have an amazing and fruitful partnership. When I reached the end of my deal at Capitol I was in my thirties and my brand had always been owned by a major corporation. There were things I wanted to do that I'd never be able to do in those situations. For example I wouldn't be able to music supervise a movie, I wouldn't be able to launch my own projects or do certain things.An open-ended post-media companyFrom here you started your own company We Few Group. I like to call it an “open-ended post-media company”. You take on so many roles—an artist manager, a mixing engineer, an NFT project producer, an entertainment strategy consultant, you're also working closely with visual artists to produce a graphic novel and even knitwear. This kind of post-media practice that you engage in is so exciting to me and it's exactly what FuturePerfect is doing. How are these different worlds and practices connected for you?AK: When I went off to start We Few Group everyone was like what is it, what are you going to do? And I just said I'm going to do things that excite me with people I like. And that was it, that's the entire thing.For example, you mentioned the knitwear. A couple of years ago, there was a painter that I was obsessed with and I wanted to buy his paintings. I ended up getting on a Zoom call with him for over two hours talking about what he was doing. At the end of the call he asked—if I manage artists could I also manage a painter? He's in the kind of traditional art world, but makes these 30-second horror films around each of his pieces on TikTok. It's all kind of neo-gothic stuff.He has all of these kids as fans, everyone from artists and influencers and just regular teenagers and 20-somethings, the typical TikTok audience. And they all wanted merch. They weren't necessarily buying fine art, but they wanted merch. And he and I started having conversations about it. He wasn't really interested in making merch because he is an artist, but he was like, I'll start a clothing company. Next thing you know, I'm learning about knitwear.This connects back to your earlier question of why I was leaving. The answer is I wasn't learning stuff. There was no time in my life at a label that I would ever be learning about making knitwear, or consulting for Arizona Iced Tea and helping them with their entertainment strategy for two years. I now know more about consumer packaged goods and beverage production and can wrapping. Is that the world's most useful thing to know [laughs]? No but I love learning that kind of stuff and being around it.Crypto and transforming artistic engagementThis brings me now to your fascination with the crypto space. That's another expansive world. What about crypto most excites you and your efforts to transform both artistic and business practices? How did you get into it?AK: I got into crypto early. I'll preface this with saying it's not because I bought millions of Bitcoin at $2 and am now sitting here just pounding money. I wish that were the case, but it's not. I started buying little fragments of Bitcoin in like 2010. Growing up things like business and banking and the stock market were like the devil to me. For better or worse, I kind of vilified it in my mind. But with crypto it felt almost like punk rock banking. I was completely intrigued by it as a kind of rebellion. For years friends heard me talking about crypto, and when the pandemic started and touring was shut down there was suddenly a bull market mentality in the crypto space. And NFTs, which had been around for a few years prior, started to be something that artists, managers and agents were paying attention to. People started calling me saying you probably know about this stuff, right?I gave pretty much everyone the exact same conversation. I said please don't do this, it is really early. This is a real world and kind of culture. You do not care about them. They do not really care about you. Your fans do not care. You know, this is bad for everyone. I guess not a lot of people were voicing that at the time. A lot of people were saying we should do this and people made a bunch of money, but I think a lot of them also looked a little dumb. A lot of the projects were pretty empty. Most of them don't get talked about anymore.But as this world kept growing I started getting calls again. I realized that I could help be a middle man and tour guide. I could help bring the right people with the right intentions in and help shape what adoption to Web3 looked like and help introduce people to the real crypto-native world and to the people who really care about this. A lot of what I do now with Web3 is try to find interesting projects and people who I think will love and enjoy this space and help them either dip their toe in the water or jump in the right way surrounded by the right people.Working with the David Bowie EstateTalk about the David Bowie project, because clearly this is something that you have a lot of passion for, and through it we can better understand what you mean by NFT, crypto space or blockchain.AK: It was without a doubt, one of the most incredible and surreal things I have and probably will ever get to be a part of. Let's put it this way, when my son came home from the hospital in his nursery at home over the changing table is a caricature of David Bowie. My dog's name is Bowie. I'm not a casual Bowie Fan. I revere Daivd Bowie.I couldn't write it better. I'm sitting on the computer one night buying something on the NFT marketplace OpenSea with my dog Bowie sitting next to me and I get a text that says “I can't really say much, but can I introduce you to the Bowie estate, they want to talk about NFTs.” We end up starting this dialogue with the executor of the Bowie estate, who is just an incredible man. He had heard a lot about crypto and what was going on in this space and was very cautious, but had a kind of bullishness. As someone who knew Bowie well, he knew Bowie would've been really excited by this. For me, there had to be a very specific why. That question of why are we doing this? What is our north star for this?What was the vision that emerged for the project?AK: I basically spent the weekend thinking about Bowie and everything I knew about him and digging into his art collection because he was a huge art collector. I happened to have the catalog of the Sotheby's auction when they auctioned off his collection. So I started going into it and asking what did his collection look like? What kind of art did he collect? Then you start thinking about him as a technologist and a lover of new technology. And you're like okay you had BowieWorld before Metaverse was even a thing we talked about. You had BowieNet, which was his own ISP and kind of fan club site. You had BowieArt, which ultimately became a showcase of art that he liked and art made by his community. And then you start thinking about Bowie Bonds and the idea of him having commodified his work and well, that sounds a lot like a bunch of NFT projects. And I just went, okay, this is a guy who kind of had the ethos of the crypto artist before that was a thing. If the blockchain is the permanent immutable ledger, then let's go put this on the blockchain. Let's go put his legacy there.So what does that mean to put his collections on the blockchain?AK: Well, it wasn't his collections, it was, let's do a project that puts on-chain—something that is on the ledger and can never be deleted—that he was here. And let's create something to honor his legacy. I kept going back to the fact that he was a huge supporter of new artists. He was a digital artist himself. I got access to the Bowie archives through my partner Joaquin and I would literally get screenshots on my phone of anything from the archive whether it was an outfit he wore or a ticket to one of his shows or art he had done or a photograph. Everything is meticulously databased. And so Joaquin and I basically started narrowing down this idea.The project became, let's get a handful of the best artists in the crypto art space, from super established to new and up-and-coming and give them free rein to create anything they want to contribute to Bowie. They also had the added bonus of incorporating anything from the archives, which no one has ever been able to do. From there I started to ask who do we want, who makes sense here?I did things like going through Bowie's personal art collection and basically tagging a bunch of stuff like “landscape”, “British artist”, “contemporary African artist”, “sculptor”. And then I did the same with crypto-native artists and tried to find what the connections were. It wasn't about finding a one to one match with everyone, but there were certainly people where I could say okay, this guy's work kind of reminds me of this guy's work. Or I think what this guy does with his art is kind of interesting in relation to this part of Bowie's archive. And also people who were fans of Bowie and people whose art represents certain things that I thought were key to Bowie's legacy. So we came up with a dream list and started approaching them. Almost everyone said yes.What makes this specifically crypto art? How do you differentiate the art that emerges within the blockchain? What is unique about it?AK: What makes this special? Well it is a new medium for art, a new way to distribute art. Artists are able to do things they couldn't do with prior art forms. For example, there are some works that are coded to literally change the time of day; there are pieces that morph over time; some of the artists built mechanisms into the work that would change the work automatically at a future time…at the end of the day it's just art. There's a community aspect to this art. All of the artists in the project interact directly with their community, their fans, and collectors. There is no middleman. There are no traditional rules. There needs to be collaboration, direct connection, dynamic movement, and that's what makes it special to me. Being on the blockchain is a means for it to exist. And then there is the “smart contract.” That's a huge part of what an NFT is, the actual code you are gaining access to in this token. This contract protects not only Bowie, but artists and the NFT community from being exploited. Everything was a 50/50 partnership between the artists and the estate, and 100% of the profits went to charity. Launching a new transmedia art projectTell me about Kids of the Apocalypse, another far reaching transmedia project that spans across music, NFTs, music videos, a comic book, and film. Here is a quote from the Kids of the Apocalypse Discord channel that sums up the project really well: In the aftermath of a cataclysmic bio-explosion, a social movement of revolutionaries is born to break the chains of the tyrannical rule of Horizon Corp in the wake of the apocalypse. A multimedia art project born from the music, Kids of the Apocalypse (KOTA) aspires to highlight the themes represented on the journey of our - awakening, unity, and deposition of unjust power. Positioned as a multimedia IP with strong experience and connections in the music industry alongside a world-class design team, KOTA is a love letter to those who dare to speak out and be themselves - delivered in the form of a suspenseful, emotional, and immersive sci-fi adventure.AK: Kids of the Apocalypse was a concept and story that was conceived about 10 years ago. There was a Swedish production group called The Sound of Arrows, and Stefan Storm from the group had started this kind of side project idea Kids of the Apocalypse. Imagine a dark comedy version of—I'm gonna say X-Men because it involves mutants—that is alt and internet leaning and kind of self-referential which also has a music component. There's this whole story and a really immaculately created lore and universe. And now imagine 10 years ago saying let's make this happen. Where the do you begin? So this idea sat there for a long time.So cut to 10 years later and I'm reconnecting with my friend Derek Davies, who was the founder of Neon Gold, which was a label that I had actually done a label deal with when I was at Columbia and who had signed Sound of Arrows and put out their first EP. He was still in touch with Stefan, and Derek is also doing a lot of stuff in the Web3 space. He has an incredible company called Medallion. I think we have put together a pretty incredible team—we've got Derek and the Medallion crew, we have Stefan and his crew, we've got an incredible creative agency who have been working on all of this alongside Stefan. And we've got the guys at Bench Mob who are some of the best digital architects out there from a social media strategy perspective. We've got an incredible community manager, we've got a advisory board of people who really are some of the best and brightest in the space from Cooper Turley on the music NFT side to John Roger, who's one of the advisors and was marketing for Star Wars for Lucasfilm and then became the first head of franchise development at Disney.We have released a few songs and one video, which I think might be the number one (I hate data points because they get outdated quickly so I might be wrong here) most traded piece on Glass which is a music video NFT protocol. We've also created something that I think has never been done before, which was creating a mechanism that integrates traditional streaming with NFT minting. Where in order to gain access to the allow list you actually had to interact with and log yourself into your Spotify or Apple account. This is a very blockchain-native project, but I also want everyone to be able to hear the music, even if you don't know what an NFT is, because the music is fantastic. The first drop is a PFP (profile picture) project. It's season one and includes the eight main characters, which you're randomly assigned to and each of them has its own unique theme music and properties, and it's all happening on the Blockchain. We're doing all this on Solana, which is a chain that I think allows for very quick movement. And part of what we want to do is really involve our community in the storytelling and really let them into all of the bits and pieces of the lore. And to me, a lot of that will come from surprise and delight and from airdrops and from opening up your wallet one day and seeing things you didn't know were going to be in there.For those of us who are still new to this space, what is a wallet? AK: The wallet is the digital space through which everything is integrated and enters into your possession. Your wallet is where you hold your cryptocurrency, where you hold your NFTs. So you may log into your wallet one day and if you're a holder of Kids of the Apocalypse NFT, you may find something new that has been added to your wallet. We've also created an amazing community in Discord, and the fan art alone is pretty incredible. I encourage people to check it out because we really are trying to build something unique. I think the website is one of the coolest websites I have seen, it is fully immersive, and we're going to play with it.So how will the comic book and full film emerge? How is that all going to be integrated?AK: The full-length film is a dream. It could be a short film too, we don't know. The plan is for this to be a story told in a moving visual media. We're still having discussions about how and what that will look like.Before we stop, were there any other current projects that we should be aware of?AK: Yeah there are two things. After the Bowie project I felt that it was important for me to put myself out there more. I felt that there was an opportunity to experience what artists and creators in this space go through, their step-by-step process. My father was a photo journalist, and I've always loved photography. I had this idea going back to the idea of the blockchain as a permanent immutable ledger; and thinking of photographs, particularly snapshots, as as memory objects; and what if you minted those memories to the blockchain, and then they're there forever. Now what happens if you then renounce your ownership of them? If you're using the snapshot as a representation of a memory, what if I minted it, and sent it to you and now it's yours? What does it mean for someone else to have my memory? It was an idea that I kept coming back to and I finally felt the need to bite the bullet and just put this out there. It's called Memory Loss. I spoke to a few artists in the crypto space to see if the idea offended anyone. I got their support and encouragement. I minted some of the snapshots and made them available on the Tezos blockchain, which is a space that is more experimental, low key, less pressure. It's on the marketplace Objkt. I do have ideas for future ways for this to evolve.The other project, equally experimental, gives support to visual artists who want to start playing in the music NFT space. There are some artists making really amazing music and building a fan base and building patrons and building their own worlds with their own rules in this space. I wanted to create a way for visual artists, who are curious, to safely and with integrity and respect, integrate themselves into that world. The short of it is I am launching an NFT-based singles label. The name is, W3 F3W like my company, except that the ees are 3s. It's going to be a place for great new music and great visual art to collide and hopefully again, just bring people into a world that I'm pretty excited about. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit futureperfect.substack.com

Prosecutors in Indiana are being blasted by the public access counselor in Indiana over a lack of transparency in the arrest of Richard Allen and what led authorities to arrive at that point. Luke Britt, whose office is charged with overseeing the publics right to access of information lambasted the prosecution and the state stating that the information should have been available no later than 24 hours after Richard Allen's arrest. The state, course, has reffered to the gag order as to why they need to throttle information and the need to maintain the integrity of the case.(commercial at 6:09)to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:Delphi murders: Public access counselor critical of how ISP handled info on Richard Allen's arrest (fox59.com)

Prosecutors in Indiana are being blasted by the public access counselor in Indiana over a lack of transparency in the arrest of Richard Allen and what led authorities to arrive at that point. Luke Britt, whose office is charged with overseeing the publics right to access of information lambasted the prosecution and the state stating that the information should have been available no later than 24 hours after Richard Allen's arrest. The state, course, has reffered to the gag order as to why they need to throttle information and the need to maintain the integrity of the case.(commercial at 6:04)to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:Delphi murders: Public access counselor critical of how ISP handled info on Richard Allen's arrest (fox59.com)

Not even a name change will stop Americans from pronouncing it incorrectly. 0:00 - It's pronounced, Yakuza. Not Yakuza. Yakuza! 49:55 - I finally saw Nekromantik, the romantic tale of a couple who diddle dead folks. It's not very good. Surprise! If you missed Saturday's live broadcast of Molehill Mountain, you can watch the video replay on YouTube.  Alternatively, you can catch audio versions of the show on iTunes. Molehill Mountain streams live at 7p PST every Saturday night! Credits: Molehill Mountain is hosted by Andrew Eisen.  Music in the show includes “Albino” by Brian Boyko. It is in the public domain and free to use. Molehill Mountain logo by Scott Hepting. Chat Transcript: 7:04 PMCafeFox​no sound andrew 7:05 PMCafeFox​Yay your wonderful voice back 7:08 PMSheekago​Hi all 7:11 PMSheekago​They're probably only familiar with Jacuzzi so they're calling it Jacuzza 7:12 PMLyricallyC​Good evening Andrew 7:14 PMLyricallyC​I used to say "Yah-Koo-Zah" 7:15 PMLyricallyC​Loved your Valentine Video lol. You're such an amazing story teller. Love the build up til the end lol 7:16 PMLyricallyC​We said Ninja Gaiden wrong back in the day 7:17 PMCafeFox​yeah Ninja Gayden 7:19 PMLyricallyC​I wonder how many games we said wrong because we weren't informed on the pronouciation about them 7:19 PManime momo​Hello @Lynndy Lee! 7:20 PMCafeFox​I watch YouTube every night so I rarely ever miss anything from channels I watch. Never had to hit notify on anything I guess 7:20 PManime momo​Hello @sheekago 7:23 PMSheekago​hey @anime momo 7:23 PMLyricallyC​yes 7:24 PMSheekago​I always used to call it Ninja Guyden 7:24 PMLyricallyC​I did until seeing The Wizard 7:24 PMLyricallyC​I played the Arcade game of Ninja Gaiden and didn't even know it 7:25 PManime momo​No lol 7:25 PMSheekago​I don't know where I heard the proper pronunciation for Gaiden. 7:27 PManime momo​Andrew reacts to Andrew 7:29 PMSheekago​There were friends who swore that you could find a porn channel on cable, but it was so scrambled you couldn't make it out. 7:30 PManime momo​I actually really like your reaction videos even though there's no reaction (: 7:30 PMCafeFox​@sheekago dude yes, that was our friday night lol 7:31 PMLyricallyC​Did you ever do a update to the Nintendo Switch list of games? Was it third party that you talked about? 7:31 PMSheekago​@cafefox that never worked. What we did is run into the adult section of the local video rental place. Then we got chased out. 7:32 PMLyricallyC​March 7:33 PMCafeFox​@sheekago My parents ended up getting a scrambler, so all those channels came out clear 

A bold claim about a missing musical watch pits law enforcement against one another, as the ISP doubles down on its search for a truck-driving serial killer. Then, Phelps digs in and examines a lead from the earliest days of the investigation, hoping to discover why a key suspect was never arrested or charged.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Cellular bandwidth speeds have reach most home Internet Service Providers. Which one should you use at home? This episode explores if you should go with the cellular route or stick with your ISP.  Be aware, be safe.   Support the show and get access to behind the scenes content as a patron - https://www.patreon.com/SecurityInFive *** Support the podcast with a cup of coffee *** - Ko-Fi Security In Five   Mighty Mackenzie - https://www.facebook.com/mightymackie Where you can find Security In Five - https://linktr.ee/binaryblogger Email - bblogger@protonmail.com

TONS of news this week! It cost Big Tech companies BILLIONS to lay off so many people, but rich people got richer! An ISP lied about broadband coverage to block funding to rivals. The US is cracking down harder on Huawei, banning more tech. Jony Ive designed the Red Nose this year, and it is … Continue reading "#SGGQA 285: Poco X5 Pro Impressions, Vivo X90 Pro Photos, Big Tech Layoffs, Huawei Chip Ban, Jony Ive’s Red Nose"

Guest: Kyle O'Meara, Principal Adversary Hunter II at Dragos, Inc. [@DragosInc]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-o-meara/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/SimulationKYLEHost: Phillip WylieOn ITSPmagazine  

Guest: Kyle O'Meara, Principal Adversary Hunter II at Dragos, Inc. [@DragosInc]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-o-meara/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/SimulationKYLEHost: Phillip WylieOn ITSPmagazine  

With the rise of online gaming, the demand for fast, reliable internet has never been higher. But how does an ISP tap into the important gamer demographic? The Fiber Gaming Network is specifically designed to attract gamers to networks through online competitions. Learn how DxTel and Mainstage Gaming plan to roll out this exciting initiative. Click now to listen. Also, subscribe to the Broadband Bunch on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. https://fibergamingnetwork.com/

5G Fixed Wireless Access is skyrocketing, Samsung prepares to launch the Galaxy S23 this week, and what to do if your ISP is throttling your connection. How to Contact us: How to Listen:

Do you want to dive deeper into the Microsoft Teams roadmap and understand Teams at a deeper level? Tune in to hear Shams Khan of SCB Global as he discusses their unique and rare partnership with Microsoft that helps them (and you) architect high-level Microsoft Teams and voice solutions on a global scale! Transcript of episode can be found below. Josh Lupresto (00:01): Welcome to the podcast that is designed to fuel your success in selling technology solutions. I'm your host, Josh Lupresto, SVP of Sales Engineering at Telarus. And this is Next Level BizTech. All right, everybody, welcome back. We are talking about unified comms, Microsoft teams, everything in between. And so today I would like to welcome in one of the world's most well-traveled men, Shams Khan, VP at SCB Global Shams. Welcome onto the show, man. Excited to have you. Shams Kahn (00:35): Hey, Josh. Thank you for having me here. And I'm just trying to meet the levels of, you know, how much you would travel from one side of the cost to the other. Yeah, not, not there yet. Josh Lupresto (00:48): Not, not there, but you, you have touched pieces of the world that I think give you so much cool experience, and we'll get into that here in a minute, and Sure. Maybe that, maybe it kicks us off with that. I, I, I wanna, I want everybody to learn a little bit about you. You know, we'll get to SCB in just a second, but, but talk to me about your personal background. You know, how did you get into this space? Where did you start? And, and let's kick it off there. Shams Kahn (01:11): Sure. So there will probably many things that will be you know, uncovered, as I say, and probably your audience or people who are listening to this will learn a lot more about me on the personal front. So I started in this space when it comes to this space, meaning communications at a very tender age of 10. And people will not know this I'm 34 now, but I started at, at the age of 10 because of our family business. I think I've mentioned some of this in our personal conversations with you, Josh, but it was more so internet was booming and communication was one of the things that we are an ISP in Mumbai. I got interested by it computers and, you know, my father or the computer trainer. So I was always around computers, and I think I'm of the generation that I used computers and I played games on computers, which were pixelated versus, you know, team games, right? Shams Kahn (02:06): Or consults. So computer was really the center of my universe in terms of how I grew up. And communication was really exciting. And I was 16 when I started to really take the reins of the business our networking, internet communications within the s p world. And that too was a life event where somebody said, Hey, you, you know, you guys are just delivering this service because you got Monopoly in this area. And that kind of kicked me off you know, as a trigger moment, as, as I would say to try and say, no, it's not really true. And I decided to learn that in the first of two years, and then decided to study that that led me to come to United Kingdom study at Chapel Hallam University doing computer and network engineering as a degree which is where I came here and I said, I wanna study now that I've kind of got a background in understanding. Shams Kahn (03:02): And the idea was to always go into something that will help me in my career path, right? And that is how it started. Now, what got me into cloud is another life event. It was 2009 ish, I would say. I was coming back from my you know, like normal class in, in my college or university, as we call it, here in the UK. And somebody had broken into our house. I was renting a house with my friends and, and they stole my laptop. And this was really like, you know, college fees and everything my parents were sponsoring and funding before. I'm like,

This episode features Joe Costello, CEO of Kwikbit Internet, a wireless ISP delivering broadband service to mobile home park communities in several states across the US, including Arizona, California, Florida, Louisiana, Nevada, Texas, Utah and Wyoming. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Ransomware isn't going away, LastPass Cloud Password Vault Breach Class Action Lawsuit, Cloudy Rackspace attack included access to customers data, Looking to change ISP and Cell Service, Want to upgrade / replace office 2016 with 2021.  How do I prepare for that? How does Acronis help me with backup? Can you compare backup software differences? Jeff from SC checks in, Keyboard not working, Is COMPTIA Cert worth pursuing?

Vous le savez tous sans doute, la Cour de cassation est la plus haute juridiction de l'ordre judiciaire français. Les étudiants qui tout au long de leur scolarité étudient des arrêts rendus par la Cour de cassation et notamment par la chambre criminelle ne savent pas vraiment comment se passe le travail de la Cour et il est difficile de toujours comprendre le langage utilisé. Ce sont les deux sujets que nous allons traiter dans deux podcasts. Le premier, celui-ci, sera consacré aux missions et au fonctionnement de la chambre criminelle ; le second à la technique de cassation et au langage. Pour ce faire, nous avons l'honneur de recevoir Christian Guéry, conseiller honoraire à la Cour de cassation et enseignant au sein de la Prépa ISP.

Welcome to Episode 130b Announcements Patreon Update American Cancer Society Funds are up to $366.84 name_pending197 Jeremy Arinomi Andrew Tatro Bruce Robert David S0l3mn LiNuXsys666 Mark The Mentor Marc Julius Andi J Charles Get your Iron Sysadmin Merch at Teespring! https://teespring.com/stores/ironsysadmin  Support the Iron Sysadmin Podcast AND try out Riverside.fm by using this link: https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=ironsysadmin  Reviews   Chat Nate New Wifi! I've joined the Ubiquiti club. TSO Paul Framework laptop Manjaro linux Podcast automation. unclemarc https://mastomarc.ddns.net/@admin I need to test cert renewal. Thanks to my ISP, I can't use the web (port 80) based method and had to use the DNS text entry to validate. Hopefully renewal just uses 443. (using Let's Encrypt) I also deactivated my Twitter account once Elon went full anti-vaxx Strike the Earth! Did I talk about my tiny Mastodon instance yet? Valve released a silly patch for Steamdeck which changed the mount path of the SD card the day after I made changes for shadercache and compdata. Long and short, it's a damn good thing I know Linux So much Dwarf Fortress XenoPhage Uhh…  Remodeling more? Playing High on Life..  What a trip Started Cyberpunk 2077 (finally!) News https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/15/us/politics/trump-nft-trading-cards-superhero.html  https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/oktas-source-code-stolen-after-github-repositories-hacked/  https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/12/kremlin-backed-hackers-targeted-a-large-petroleum-refinery-in-a-nato-nation/  https://futurism.com/the-byte/roomba-photos-leaked  https://www.zerodayinitiative.com/advisories/ZDI-22-1690/ https://blog.lastpass.com/2022/12/notice-of-recent-security-incident/ https://hackernoon.com/psa-lastpass-does-not-encrypt-everything-in-your-vault-8722d69b2032   Watch us live on the 2nd and 4th Thursday of every month! Subscribe and hit the bell! https://www.youtube.com/IronSysadminPodcast  OR https://twitch.tv/IronSysadminPodcast   Discord Community: https://discord.gg/wmxvQ4c2H6  Matrix Space: https://matrix.to/#/#IronSysadmin:trixie.undrground.org  Find us on Twitter, and Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/ironsysadmin https://www.twitter.com/ironsysadmin Subscribe wherever you find podcasts! And don't forget about our patreon! https://patreon.com/ironsysadmin   Intro and Outro music credit: Tri Tachyon, Digital MK 2http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Tri-Tachyon/ 

« Le communisme c'est les soviets, plus l'électricité » a dit Lénine lors du 8ème congrès des Soviets, le 20 décembre 1920. A cette date, le pouvoir bolchevik est en place depuis la révolution de 1917 ou plutôt les révolutions de 1917. En tout cas, rarement un peuple, ici le peuple russe, n'aura connu de changement aussi brutal. Moment cardinal de l'histoire moderne, la révolution russe de 1917 a eu des répercussions considérables depuis plus d'un siècle. Pour l'évoquer ainsi que ses conséquences sur le monde contemporain, nous recevons Jérôme Calauzènes, agrégé d'histoire, professeur de géopolitique, Enseignant d'histoire à Sc.-Po. Saint-Germain, et Enseignant à la Prépa ISP.

This week on ISP, Matt Rogers returns to discuss the launch of Dynasty. Was it a complete flop or was the timing just off? - Support ISP directly on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/instantspeedpod - Get 10% Off Your Order at BCW Supplies with code ISP10 at checkout! Follow the link here: https://www.bcwsupplies.com/?acc=InstantSpeed - Check out Kayfabe Cards: https://kayfabecards.tcgplayerpro.com/

En 2019, le Conseil d'Etat, publiait une étude intitulée : « Les expérimentations : comment innover dans la conduite des politiques publiques ? ». Cette étude, commandée par le Premier Ministre, rendue publique, montre que les pouvoirs publics réfléchissent intensément et activement, notamment dans le cadre du programme « Action publique 2022 » à une gestion plus efficace des politiques publiques. Selon le Conseil d'Etat, une telle gestion peut passer notamment par des expérimentations, permettant « de tester, sur le terrain, pendant une durée limitée, une mesure, une politique, un mode d'organisation ou une nouvelle technologie, et d'en mesurer les effets de façon objective ». Par exemple, cet outil juridique se trouve de plus en plus fréquemment employé par le législateur, encore récemment par la loi de finances pour 2022. En l'occurrence, il s'agissait de procéder à la renationalisation du Revenu de Solidarité Active, le Département de la Seine Saint-Denis ayant été choisi comme Département dans lequel l'expérimentation serait menée. En quoi consistent concrètement les expérimentations législatives ? quelle est leur place dans la gestion des politiques publiques aujourd'hui ? Comment sont-elles régies ? Pour approfondir cette thématique, nous accueillons Vincent Mazzocchi, docteur en droit public et Avocat inscrit au Barreau de Paris, intervenant au sein de la Prépa ISP.

Chuck Joiner, Eric Bolden, David Ginsburg, Jim Rea, Mark Fuccio, Web Bixby, and Jeff Gamet finish off an intense discussion of Alexa, Siri, and our expectations for voice assistant performance. The MacVoices Live! panel also touches on some new ISP regulations that are long overdue. (Part 2)  This edition of MacVoices is supported by The MacVoices Slack. Become a Patreon supporter and get access at Patreon.com/macvoices. Show Notes: Links: Amazon Alexa is a “colossal failure,” on pace to lose $10 billion this yearhttps://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/11/amazon-alexa-is-a-colossal-failure-on-pace-to-lose-10-billion-this-year/ FCC orders ISPs to display labels clearly showing speeds and itemized feeshttps://www.engadget.com/fcc-orders-isp-display-broadband-label-054900626.html   FCC National Broadband Maphttps://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/home   Guests: Web Bixby has been in the insurance business for 40 years and has been an Apple user for longer than that.You can catch up with him on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn. Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitter by email at embolden@mac.com, and on his blog, Trending At Work. Mark Fuccio is actively involved in high tech startup companies, both as a principle at piqsure.com, or as a marketing advisor through his consulting practice Tactics Sells High Tech, Inc. Mark was a proud investor in Microsoft from the mid-1990's selling in mid 2000, and hopes one day that MSFT will be again an attractive investment. You can contact Mark through Twitter on LinkedIn. Jeff Gamet is a technology blogger, podcaster, author, and public speaker. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's Managing Editor, and the TextExpander Evangelist for Smile. He has presented at Macworld Expo, RSA Conference, several WordCamp events, along with many other conferences. You can find him on several podcasts such as The Mac Show, The Big Show, MacVoices, Mac OS Ken, This Week in iOS, and more. Jeff is easy to find on social media as @jgamet on Twitter and Instagram, and jeffgamet on LinkedIn., and on his YouTube Channel at YouTube.com/jgamet. David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at https://youtube.com/daveg65 and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65. Jim Rea has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE's ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. Follow Jim at provue.com and via @provuejim on Twitter. Support:      Become a MacVoices Patron on Patreon     http://patreon.com/macvoices      Enjoy this episode? Make a one-time donation with PayPal Connect:      Web:     http://macvoices.com      Twitter:     http://www.twitter.com/chuckjoiner     http://www.twitter.com/macvoices      Mastodon:     https://mastodon.cloud/@chuckjoiner      Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/chuck.joiner      MacVoices Page on Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/macvoices/      MacVoices Group on Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/groups/macvoice      LinkedIn:     https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckjoiner/      Instagram:     https://www.instagram.com/chuckjoiner/ Subscribe:      Audio in iTunes     Video in iTunes      Subscribe manually via iTunes or any podcatcher:      Audio: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesrss      Video: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesvideorss

This week on ISP, The Professor from Tolarian Community College joins the show to talk about his journey into Flesh & Blood and the Tribalism that followed. Flake and The Professor also discuss the balance of price points in the TCG market. - Support ISP directly on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/instantspeedpod - Get 10% Off Your Order at BCW Supplies with code ISP10 at checkout! Follow the link here: https://www.bcwsupplies.com/?acc=InstantSpeed - Check out Kayfabe Cards: https://kayfabecards.tcgplayerpro.com/

Chuck Joiner, Eric Bolden, David Ginsburg, Jim Rea, Mark Fuccio, Web Bixby, and Jeff Gamet finish off an intense discussion of Alexa, Siri, and our expectations for voice assistant performance. The MacVoices Live! panel also touches on some new ISP regulations that are long overdue. (Part 2)  This edition of MacVoices is supported by The MacVoices Slack. Become a Patreon supporter and get access at Patreon.com/macvoices. Show Notes: Links: Amazon Alexa is a “colossal failure,” on pace to lose $10 billion this yearhttps://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/11/amazon-alexa-is-a-colossal-failure-on-pace-to-lose-10-billion-this-year/ FCC orders ISPs to display labels clearly showing speeds and itemized feeshttps://www.engadget.com/fcc-orders-isp-display-broadband-label-054900626.html   FCC National Broadband Maphttps://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/home   Guests: Web Bixby has been in the insurance business for 40 years and has been an Apple user for longer than that.You can catch up with him on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn. Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitter by email at embolden@mac.com, and on his blog, Trending At Work. Mark Fuccio is actively involved in high tech startup companies, both as a principle at piqsure.com, or as a marketing advisor through his consulting practice Tactics Sells High Tech, Inc. Mark was a proud investor in Microsoft from the mid-1990's selling in mid 2000, and hopes one day that MSFT will be again an attractive investment. You can contact Mark through Twitter on LinkedIn. Jeff Gamet is a technology blogger, podcaster, author, and public speaker. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's Managing Editor, and the TextExpander Evangelist for Smile. He has presented at Macworld Expo, RSA Conference, several WordCamp events, along with many other conferences. You can find him on several podcasts such as The Mac Show, The Big Show, MacVoices, Mac OS Ken, This Week in iOS, and more. Jeff is easy to find on social media as @jgamet on Twitter and Instagram, and jeffgamet on LinkedIn., and on his YouTube Channel at YouTube.com/jgamet. David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at https://youtube.com/daveg65 and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65. Jim Rea has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE's ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. Follow Jim at provue.com and via @provuejim on Twitter. Support:      Become a MacVoices Patron on Patreon     http://patreon.com/macvoices      Enjoy this episode? Make a one-time donation with PayPal Connect:      Web:     http://macvoices.com      Twitter:     http://www.twitter.com/chuckjoiner     http://www.twitter.com/macvoices      Mastodon:     https://mastodon.cloud/@chuckjoiner      Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/chuck.joiner      MacVoices Page on Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/macvoices/      MacVoices Group on Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/groups/macvoice      LinkedIn:     https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckjoiner/      Instagram:     https://www.instagram.com/chuckjoiner/ Subscribe:      Audio in iTunes     Video in iTunes      Subscribe manually via iTunes or any podcatcher:      Audio: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesrss      Video: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesvideorss

Too many Christians hesitate to share their faith because they anticipate the inevitable result will be failure and embarrassment for all concerned. But FBB speaker Ian McKerracher uses an encounter with an ISP salesman to remind us that such defeatism results from our forgetting God's secret weapon, the Holy Spirit, Who goes before us and works with us, to prepare the ground and make every gospel encounter a success in one way or another.

This week on Gamertag Radio, the crew are getting ready to attend the Game Awards, fan mail question about Xbox, Sonic Frontiers and game reviews. All this and more only on GTR! Sponsored: ExpressVPN ExpressVPN is an app that reroutes your internet connection through their secure servers so your ISP can't see the sites you visit. It also keeps all of your information secure by encrypting 100% of your data with the most powerful encryption available. Protect your online activity TODAY with the VPN rated #1 by Business Insider. Visit my exclusive link ExpressVPN.com/gtr and you can get an extra 3 months FREE on a one-year package. Buy Danny's new children's book, "Danny Loves Video Games" now on Amazon! English (Hardcover / Kindle) or Spanish (Hardcover / Kindle). "Danny is your typical young boy. He loves playing video games! Read along and find out how he transformed his passion into his career. Based on the true story of Gamertag Radio Founder & Host, Danny Peña." Watch the award-winning film, Gamertag Radio: A Podcast Story now for free on Youtube - story.gamertagradio.com | Store: store.gamertagradio.com. Send us questions - fanmail@gamertagradio.com | Speakpipe.com/gamertagradio or 786-273-7GTR. Join our Discord - https://discord.gg/gtr chat with other GTR community member.

This episode features Jeff Seidenfaden, chief commercial and customer experience officer at fiber broadband provider Bluepeak; and Mike Podoll, a resident of Altus, Oklahoma, and a subscriber to Bluepeak since the ISP started connecting customers there in late August. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave he is joined by guests Patrice, Kelly, and, Jeff Gamet. The AirPods Pro 2 have improved Bluetooth latency. We discuss this and why lossless audio still is not working. The Apple One bundle is still a deal but is it worth it to you? The FCC orders all ISP's to have labeling of speeds and pricing. We discuss this as well as the awesome broadband map the FCC offers. Black Friday deals there are some great Apple deals and more.  The show notes are at InTouchwithiOS.com 
Direct Link to Audio  Links to our Show Click this link Buy me a Coffee to support the show we would really appreciate it. intouchwithios.com/coffee  Another way to support the show is to become a Patreon member patreon.com/intouchwithios Website: In Touch With iOS YouTube Channel In Touch with iOS Magazine on Flipboard Facebook Page Twitter Instagram News Huh? Apple has reportedly 'expressed interest' in buying UK soccer team Manchester United  Apple Pivots to Samsung for iPhone Memory Chips Following US Trade Ban Against Chinese Suppliers SwiftKey is unexpectedly back on iOS iCloud for Windows Users Complain of Corrupted Videos, Photos From Strangers Apple Music App Spotted in Tesla Model S Museum Exhibit Apple TV+ closing movie gap with rotating back catalog for subscribers Topics Beta this week. iOS16.2 Beta 3 continues this week.  It has been awhile since we talked about the value of the Apple One bundle. With the prices going up is it still worth it? We discuss the pros and cons of these bundles and the value. What Is Apple One, and Should You Subscribe?    Apple One and a new game for Jeff SpongeBob SolitairePants The AirPods have improved latency AirPods Pro 2 testing reveals significant improvement in Bluetooth latency  Why is Lossless audio on on the AirPods Pro 2? Apple Engineer Addresses Lack of Lossless Support on New AirPods Pro  We discuss the labeling ISP's need to disclose and the speeds.  FCC orders ISPs to display labels clearly showing speeds and itemized fees  The FCC also added a National Broadband map FCC Broadband Map Black Friday is this week and we discuss some of the great deals out there that you might have missed. Apple is having a event Black Friday & Cyber Monday Shopping Event - Apple Gift cards with purchase. There are so many things to buy this year. Notable Deals iMazing is 50% off iMazing Grid Studio Framed iPhone 4s Teardown Grid Studio iPhone 4s Framed Work Apple Pencil (second generation) - $40 off Apple AirTag 4 Pack - $20 off AirPods Pro 2 $199 $49 off The Jackbox Party Pack 8  The Jackbox Party Pack 9 Huge List of Black Friday Deals on Apple Accessories All the Apple Black Friday Deals You Can Get Today Other  Apple Black Friday Deals  2021 iPad mini 64 GB - $100 off 2021 iPad Pro 12.9-inch Wi-Fi 1 TB - $400 off 2022 iPad Pro 12.9-inch Wi-Fi 128 GB - $100 off Apple Watch Ultra - $60 off  Apple Watch Series 8 41mm - $50 off Apple Watch Series 8 45mm - $50 off Our Host Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/intouchwithios follow him on Mastadon @daveg65,  Twitter @daveg65.and the show @intouchwithios Our Regular Contributors Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet as well as Twitter and Instagram as @jgamet  His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet About our Guests Kelly Guimont is a podcaster and friend of the Rebel Alliance. She appears on The Incomparable network as well as hosts I Want My M(CU) TV. You can find her on Twitter and Instagram @verso Patrice Brend'amour loves to create podcasts, automations or software. She also enjoys working with diverse sets of people, leading them to success and making a tiny difference in the world. Which she does as VP of Development at a Healthcare Software provider. She can be found at https://the-patrice.com and her podcast Foodie Flashback at https://foodieflashback.com

Ahh, the perennially overlooked and ignored art of point to point addressing. You know, the IPv4 and IPv6 addressing that gets slapped onto a link between a core and distribution router, or the addressing placed on the link between your BGP speaker and the ISP. Those are kinda important, ya know? Do you know the best methods to use, what is common, what isn't? Well, John Osmon and Nick Buraglio talk it through. It's really not as boring as it seems.

Apple to use US-made chips in 2024, vulnerabilities in space, network observability with Catchpoint, and more. Zero-trust initiatives stall, as cyberattack costs rocket to $1M per incident Tim Cook says Apple will use chips made in America from 2024 Spacecraft vulnerable to failure, thanks to aerospace networking bug Amazon to cut around 10,000 corporate and tech jobs, making largest layoffs in its history ISP deploys fiber service with a wrinkle - the users themselves own each network Catchpoint CMO Gerardo Dada talks about network monitoring and observability Hosts: Curtis Franklin and Brian Chee Guest: Gerardo Dada Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-enterprise-tech. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT Code Comments nureva.com/twit

Apple to use US-made chips in 2024, vulnerabilities in space, network observability with Catchpoint, and more. Zero-trust initiatives stall, as cyberattack costs rocket to $1M per incident Tim Cook says Apple will use chips made in America from 2024 Spacecraft vulnerable to failure, thanks to aerospace networking bug Amazon to cut around 10,000 corporate and tech jobs, making largest layoffs in its history ISP deploys fiber service with a wrinkle - the users themselves own each network Catchpoint CMO Gerardo Dada talks about network monitoring and observability Hosts: Curt Franklin and Brian Chee Guest: Gerardo Dada Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-enterprise-tech. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT Code Comments nureva.com/twit

Apple to use US-made chips in 2024, vulnerabilities in space, network observability with Catchpoint, and more. Zero-trust initiatives stall, as cyberattack costs rocket to $1M per incident Tim Cook says Apple will use chips made in America from 2024 Spacecraft vulnerable to failure, thanks to aerospace networking bug Amazon to cut around 10,000 corporate and tech jobs, making largest layoffs in its history ISP deploys fiber service with a wrinkle - the users themselves own each network Catchpoint CMO Gerardo Dada talks about network monitoring and observability Hosts: Curt Franklin and Brian Chee Guest: Gerardo Dada Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-enterprise-tech. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT Code Comments nureva.com/twit

Apple to use US-made chips in 2024, vulnerabilities in space, network observability with Catchpoint, and more. Zero-trust initiatives stall, as cyberattack costs rocket to $1M per incident Tim Cook says Apple will use chips made in America from 2024 Spacecraft vulnerable to failure, thanks to aerospace networking bug Amazon to cut around 10,000 corporate and tech jobs, making largest layoffs in its history ISP deploys fiber service with a wrinkle - the users themselves own each network Catchpoint CMO Gerardo Dada talks about network monitoring and observability Hosts: Curtis Franklin and Brian Chee Guest: Gerardo Dada Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-enterprise-tech. Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT Code Comments nureva.com/twit

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About AndyAndy is on a lifelong journey to understand, invent, apply, and leverage technology in our world. Both personally and professionally technology is at the root of his interests and passions.Andy has always had an interest in understanding how things work at their fundamental level. In addition to figuring out how something works, the recursive journey of learning about enabling technologies and underlying principles is a fascinating experience which he greatly enjoys.The early Internet afforded tremendous opportunities for learning and discovery. Andy's early work focused on network engineering and architecture for regional Internet service providers in the late 1990s – a time of fantastic expansion on the Internet.Since joining Akamai in 2000, Akamai has afforded countless opportunities for learning and curiosity through its practically limitless globally distributed compute platform. Throughout his time at Akamai, Andy has held a variety of engineering and product leadership roles, resulting in the creation of many external and internal products, features, and intellectual property.Andy's role today at Akamai – Senior Vice President within the CTO Team - offers broad access and input to the full spectrum of Akamai's applied operations – from detailed patent filings to strategic company direction. Working to grow and scale Akamai's technology and business from a few hundred people to roughly 10,000 with a world-class team is an amazing environment for learning and creating connections.Personally Andy is an avid adventurer, observer, and photographer of nature, marine, and astronomical subjects. Hiking, typically in the varied terrain of New England, with his family is a common endeavor. He enjoys compact/embedded systems development and networking with a view towards their applications in drone technology.Links Referenced: Macrometa: https://www.macrometa.com/ Akamai: https://www.akamai.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andychampagne/ TranscriptAnnouncer: Hello, and welcome to Screaming in the Cloud with your host, Chief Cloud Economist at The Duckbill Group, Corey Quinn. This weekly show features conversations with people doing interesting work in the world of cloud, thoughtful commentary on the state of the technical world, and ridiculous titles for which Corey refuses to apologize. This is Screaming in the Cloud.Corey: Forget everything you know about SSH and try Tailscale. Imagine if you didn't need to manage PKI or rotate SSH keys every time someone leaves. That'd be pretty sweet, wouldn't it? With Tailscale SSH, you can do exactly that. Tailscale gives each server and user device a node key to connect to its VPN, and it uses the same node key to authorize and authenticate SSH.Basically you're SSHing the same way you manage access to your app. What's the benefit here? Built-in key rotation, permissions as code, connectivity between any two devices, reduce latency, and there's a lot more, but there's a time limit here. You can also ask users to reauthenticate for that extra bit of security. Sounds expensive?Nope, I wish it were. Tailscale is completely free for personal use on up to 20 devices. To learn more, visit snark.cloud/tailscale. Again, that's snark.cloud/tailscaleCorey: Managing shards. Maintenance windows. Overprovisioning. ElastiCache bills. I know, I know. It's a spooky season and you're already shaking. It's time for caching to be simpler. Momento Serverless Cache lets you forget the backend to focus on good code and great user experiences. With true autoscaling and a pay-per-use pricing model, it makes caching easy. No matter your cloud provider, get going for free at gomomento.co/screaming That's GO M-O-M-E-N-T-O dot co slash screamingCorey: Welcome to Screaming in the Cloud. I'm Corey Quinn. I like doing promoted guest episodes like this one. Not that I don't enjoy all of my promoted guest episodes. But every once in a while, I generally have the ability to wind up winning an argument with one of my customers. Namely, it's great to talk to you folks, but why don't you send me someone who doesn't work at your company? Maybe a partner, maybe an investor, maybe a customer. At Macrometa who's sponsoring this episode said, okay, my guest today is Andy Champagne, SVP at the CTO office at Akamai. Andy, thanks for joining me.Andy: Thanks, Corey. Appreciate you having me. And appreciate Macrometa letting me come.Corey: Let's start with talking about you, and then we'll get around to the Macrometa discussion in the fullness of time. You've been at an Akamai for 22 years, which in tech company terms, it's like staying at a normal job for 75 years. What's it been like being in the same place for over two decades?Andy: Yeah, I've got several gold watches. I've been retired twice. Nobody—you know, Akamai—so in the late-90s, I was in the ISP universe, right? So, I was in network engineering at regional ISPs, you know, kind of cutting teeth on, you know, trying to scale networks and deal with the flux of user traffic coming in from the growth of the web. And, you know, frankly, it wasn't working, right?Companies were trying to scale up at the time by adding bigger and bigger servers, and buying literally, you know, servers, the size of refrigerators. And all of a sudden, there was this company that was coming together out in Cambridge, I'm from Massachusetts, and Akamai started in Cambridge, Massachusetts, still headquartered there. And Akamai was forming up and they had a totally different solution to how to solve this, which was amazing. And it was compelling and it drew me there, and I am still there, 22-odd years in, trying to solve challenging problems.Corey: Akamai is one of those companies that I often will describe to people who aren't quite as inclined in the network direction as I've been previously, as one of the biggest companies of the internet that you've never heard of. You are—the way that I think of you historically, I know this is not how you folks frame yourself these days, but I always thought of you as the CDN that you use when it really mattered, especially in the earlier days of the internet where there were not a whole lot of good options to choose from, and the failure mode that Akamai had when I was looking at it many years ago, is that, well, it feels enterprise-y. Well, what does that mean exactly because that's usually used as a disparaging term by any developer in San Francisco. What does that actually unpack to? And to my mind, it was, well, it was one of the more expensive options, which yes, that's generally not a terrible thing, and also that it felt relatively stodgy, for lack of a better term, where it felt like updating things through an API was more of a JSON API—namely a guy named Jason—who would take a ticket, possibly from Jira if they were that modern or not, and then implement it by hand. I don't believe that it is quite that bad these days because, again, this was circa 2012 that we're talking here. But how do you view what Akamai is and does in 2022?Andy: Yeah. Awesome question. There's a lot to unpack in there, including a few clever jabs you threw in. But all good.Corey: [laugh].Andy: [laugh]. I think Akamai has been through a tremendous, tremendous series of evolutions on the internet. And really the one that, you know, we're most excited about today is, you know, earlier this year, we kind of concluded our acquisition of Linode. And if we think about Linode, which brings compute into our platform, you know, ultimately Akamai today is a compute company that has a security offering and has a delivery offering as well. We do more security than delivery, so you know, delivery is kind of something that was really important during our first ten or twelve years, and security during the last ten, and we think compute during the next ten.The great news there is that if you look at Linode, you can't really find a more developer-focused company than Linode. You essentially fall into a virtual machine, you may accidentally set up a virtual machine inadvertently it's so easy. And that is how we see the interface evolving. We see a compute-centric interface becoming standard for people as time moves on.Corey: I'm reminded of one of those ancient advertisements, I forget, I think would have been Sun that put it out where the network is the computer or the computer is the network. The idea of that a computer sitting by itself unplugged was basically just this side of useless, whereas a bunch of interconnected computers was incredibly powerful. That today and 2022 sounds like an extraordinarily obvious statement, but it feels like this is sort of a natural outgrowth of that, where, okay, you've wound up solving the CDN piece of it pretty effectively. Now, you're expanding out into, as you say, compute through the Linode acquisition and others, and the question I have is, is that because there's a larger picture that's currently unfolding, or is this a scenario where well, we nailed the CDN side of the world, well, on that side of the universe, there's no new worlds left to conquer. Let's see what else we can do. Next, maybe we'll start making toasters.Andy: Bunch of bored guys in Cambridge, and we're just like, “Hey, let's go after compute. We don't know what we're doing.” No. There's a little bit more—Corey: Exactly. “We have money and time. Let's combine the two and see what we can come up with.”Andy: [laugh]. Hey, folks, compute: it's the new thing. No, it's more than that. And you know, Akamai has a very long history with the edge, right? And Akamai started—and again, arrogantly saying, we invented the concept of the edge, right, out there in '99, 2000, deploying hundreds and then to thousands of different locations, which is what our CDN ran on top of.And that was a really new, novel concept at the time. We extended that. We've always been flirting with what is called edge computing, which is how do we take pieces of application logic and move them from a centralized point and move them out to the edge. And I mean, cripes, if you go back and Google, like, ‘Akamai edge computing,' we were working on that in 2003, which is a bit like ancient history, right? And we are still on a quest.And literally, we think about it in the company this way: we are on a quest to make edge computing a reality, which is how do you take applications that have centralized chokepoints? And how do you move as much of those applications as possible out to the edge of the network to unblock user performance and experience, and then see what folks developers can enable with that kind of platform?Corey: For me, it seems that the rise of AWS—which is, by extension, the rise of cloud—has been, okay, you wind up building whatever you want for the internet and you stuff it into an AWS region, and oh, that's far away from your customers and/or your entire architecture is terrible so it has to make 20 different calls to the data center in series rather than in parallel. Great, how do we reduce the latency as much as possible? And their answer has largely seemed to be, ah, we'll build more regions, ever closer to you. One of these days, I expect to wake up and find that there's an announcement that they're launching a new region in my spare room here. It just seems to get closer and closer and closer. You look around, and there's a cloud construction crew stalking you to the mall and whatnot. I don't believe that is the direction that the future necessarily wants to be going in.Andy: Yeah, I think there's a lot there. And I would say it this way, which is, you know, having two-ish dozen uber-large data centers is probably not the peak technology of the internet, right? There's more we need to do to be able to get applications truly distributed. And, you know, just to be clear, I mean, Amazon AWS's done amazing stuff, they've projected phenomenal scale and they continue to do so. You know, but at Akamai, the problem we're trying to solve is really different than how do we put a bunch of stuff in a small number of data centers?It's, you know, obviously, there's going to be a centralized aspect, but there also needs to be incredibly integrated and seamless, moves through a gradient of compute, where hey, maybe you're in a very large data center for your AI/ML, kind of, you know, offline data lake type stuff. And then maybe you're in hundreds of locations for mid-tier application processing, and, you know, reconciliation of databases, et cetera. And then all the way out at the edge, you know, in thousands of locations, you should be there for user interactivity. And when I say user interactivity, I don't just mean, you know, read-only, but you've got to be able to do a read-write operation in synchronous fashion with the edge. And that's what we're after is building ultimately a platform for that and looking at tools, technology, and people along the way to help us with it.Corey: I've built something out, my lasttweetinaws.com threading Twitter client, and that's… it's fine. It's stateless, but it's a little too intricate to effectively run in the Lambda@Edge approach, so using their CloudFront offering is simply a non-starter. So, in order to get low latency for people using it around the world, I now have to deploy it simultaneously to 20 different AWS regions.And that is, to be direct, a colossal pain in the ass. No one is really doing stuff like that, that I can see. I had to build a whole lot of customs tooling just to get a CI/CD system up and working. Their strong regional isolation is great for containing blast radii, but obnoxious when you're trying to get something deployed globally. It's not the only way.Combine that with the reality that ingress data transfer to any of their regions is free—generally—but sending data to the internet is a jewel beyond price because all my stars, that is egress bandwidth; there is nothing more valuable on this planet or any other. And that doesn't quite seem right. Because if that were actively true, a whole swath of industries and apps would not be able to exist.Andy: Yeah, you know, Akamai, a huge part of our business is effectively distributing egress bandwidth to the world, right? And that is a big focus of ours. So, when we look at customers that are well positioned to do compute with Akamai, candidly, the filtering question that I typically ask with customers is, “Hey, do you have a highly distributed audience that you want to engage with, you know, a lot of interactivity or you're pushing a lot of content, video, updates, whatever it is, to them?” And that notion of highly distributed applications that have high egress requirements is exactly the sweet spot that we think Akamai has, you know, just a great advantage with, between our edge platform that we've been working on for the last 20-odd years and obviously, the platform that Linode brings into the conversation.Corey: Let's talk a little bit about Macrometa.Andy: Sure.Corey: What is the nature of your involvement with those folks? Because it seems like you sort of crossed into a whole bunch of different areas simultaneously, which is fascinating and great to see, but to my understanding, you do not own them.Andy: No, we don't. No, they're an independent company doing their thing. So, one of the fun hats that I get to wear at Akamai is, I'm responsible for our Akamai Ventures Program. So, we do our corporate investing and all this kind of thing. And we work with a wide array of companies that we think are contributing to the progression of the internet.So, there's a bunch of other folks out there that we work with as well. And Macrometa is on that list, which is we've done an investment in Macrometa, we're board observers there, so we get to sit in and give them input on, kind of, how they're doing things, but they don't have to listen to us since we're only observers. And we've also struck a preferred partnership with them. And what that means is that as our customers are building solutions, or as we're building solutions for our customers, utilizing the edge, you know, we're really excited and we've got Macrometa at the table to help with that. And Macrometa is—you know, just kind of as a refresher—is trying to solve the problem of distributed data access at the edge in a high-performance and almost non-blocking, developer-friendly way. And that is very, very exciting to us, so that's the context in which they're interesting to our continuing evolution of how the edge works.Corey: One of the questions I always like to ask, and it's usually not considered a personal attack when I asked the question—Andy: Oh, good.Corey: But it's, “Describe what the company does.” Now, at some places like the latter days of Yahoo, for example, it's very much a personal attack. But what is it that Macrometa does?Andy: So, Macrometa provides a worldwide, high-speed distributed database that is resident on what today, you could call the edge of the network. And the advantage here is, instead of having one SQL server sitting somewhere, or what you would call a distributed SQL Server, which is two SQL Servers sitting next to one another, Macrometa has a high-speed data store that allows you to, instead of having that centralized SQL Server, have it run natively at the edge of the network. And when you're building applications that run on the edge or anywhere, you need to try to think about how do you have the data as close to the user or to the access point as possible. And that's the problem Macrometa is after and that's what their products today solve. It's an incredibly bright team over there, a fantastic founder-CEO team, and we're really excited to be working with him.Corey: It wasn't intentionally designed this way as a setup when I mentioned a few minutes ago, but yeah, my Twitter client works across the 20-some-odd AWS regions, specifically because it's stateless. All of the state, other than a couple of API keys at provision time, wind up living in the user's browser. If this was something that needed to retain state in any way, like, you know, basically every real application under the sun, this strategy would absolutely not work unless I wound up with some heinous form of circular replication, and then you wind up with a single region going down and everything explodes. Having a cohesive, coherent data layer that spans all of that is key.Andy: Yeah, and you're on to the classical, you know, CompSci issue here around edge, which is if you have 100 edge regions, how do you have consistent state storage between applications running on N of those? And that is the problem Macrometa is after, and, you know, Akamai has been working on this and other variants of the edge problem for some time. We're very excited to be working with the folks at Macrometa. It's a cool group of folks. And it's an interesting approach to the technology. And from what we've seen so far, it's been working great.Corey: The idea of how do I wind up having persistent, scalable state across a bunch of different edge locations is not just a hard computer science problem; it's also a hard cloud economics problem, given the cost of data transit in a bunch of different directions between different providers. It turns, “How much does it cost?” In most cases to a question that can only be answered by well let's run it for a few days and find out. Which is not usually the best way to answer some questions. Like, “Is that power socket live?” “Let's touch it and find out.” Yeah, there are ways you learn that are extraordinarily painful.Andy: Yeah no, nobody should be doing that with power sockets. I think this is one of these interesting areas, which is this is really right in Akamai's backyard but it's not realized by a lot of folks. So, you know, Akamai has, for the last 20-odd-years, been all about how do we egress as much as possible to the entire internet. The weird areas, the big areas, the small areas, the up-and-coming areas, we serve them all. And in doing that, we've built a very large global fabric network, which allows us to get between those locations at a very low cost because we have to move our own content around.And hooking those together, having a essentially private network fabric that hooks the vast majority of our big locations together and then having very high-speed egress out of all of the locations to the internet, you know, that's been how we operate our business at scale effectively and economically for years, and utilizing that for compute data replication, data synchronization tasks is what we're doing.Corey: There are a lot of different solutions that could be used to solve a lot of the persistent data layer question. For example, when you had to solve a similar problem with compute, you had a few options in front of you. Well, we could buy a whole bunch of computers and stuff them in a rack somewhere because, eh, cloud; how hard could it be? Saner heads prevailed, and no, no, no, we're going to buy Linode, which was honestly a genius approach on about three different levels, and I'm still unconvinced the industry sees that for the savvy move that it was. I'm confident that'll change in time.Why not build it yourself? Or alternately, acquire another company that was working on something similar? Instead, you're an investor in a company that's doing this effectively, but not buying them outright?Andy: Yeah, you know, and I think that's—Akamai is beyond at this point in thinking that it's just about ownership, right? I think that this—we don't have to own everything in order to have a successful ecosystem. You know, certainly, we're going to want to own key parts of it and that's where you saw the Linode acquisition, where we felt that was kind of core. But ultimately, we believe in promoting customer choice here. And there's a pretty big role that we have that we think we can help with companies, such as folks like Macrometa where they have, you know, really interesting technology, but they can use leverage, they can use some of our go-to-market, they can use, you know, some of our, you know, kind of guidance and expertise on running a startup—which, by the way, it's not an easy job for these folks—and that's what we're there to do.So, with things like Linode, you know, we want to bring it in, and we want to own it because we think it's just so compelling, and it fits so well with where we want to go. With folks like Macrometa, you know, that's still a really young area. I mean, you know, Linode was in business for many, many, many years and was a good-sized business, you know, before we bought them.Corey: Yeah, there's something to be said, for letting the market shake something out rather than having to do it all yourself as trailblazers. I'm a big believer in letting other companies do things. I mean, one of the more annoying things, from my position, is this idea where AWS takes a product strategy of, “Yes.” That becomes a bit of a challenge when they're trying to wind up building compete decks, and how do we defeat the competition? And it's like, “Wh—oh, you're talking about the other hyperscalers?” “No, we're talking with the service team one floor away.”That just seems a little on the strange side to—some companies get too big and too expensive on some level. I think that there's a very real risk of Akamai trying to do everything on the internet if you continue to expand and start listing out things that are not currently in your portfolio. And, oh, we should do that, too, and we should do that, too, and we should do that, too. And suddenly, it feels pretty closely aligned with you're trying to do everything.Andy: Yeah. I think we've been a company who has been really disciplined and not doing everything. You know, we started with CDN. And you know, we're talking '98 to 2010, you know, CDN was really our thing, and we feel we executed really well on that. We probably executed quite quietly and well, but feel we executed pretty well on that.Really from 2010, 2012 to 2020, it was all about security, right? And, you know, we built, you know, pretty amazing security business, hundred percent of SaaS business, on top of our CDN platform with security. And now we're thinking about—we did that route relatively quietly, as well, and now we're thinking about the next ten years and how do we have that same kind of impact on cloud. And that is exciting because it's not just centralized cloud; it's about a distributed cloud vision. And that is really compelling and that's why you know, we've got great folks that are still here and working on it.Corey: I'm a big believer in the idea that you can start getting distilled truth out of folks, particularly companies, the more you compress the space they have to wind up saying. Something that's why Twitter very often lets people tip their hands. But a commonplace that I look for is the title field on a company's website. So, when I go over to akamai.com, you position yourself as something that fits in a small portion of a tweet, which is good. Whenever have a Tolstoy-length paragraph in the tooltip title for the browser tab, that's a problem.But you say simply, “Security, cloud delivery, performance. Akamai.” Which is beautifully well done, but security comes first. I have a mental model of Akamai as being a CDN and some other stuff that I don't fully understand. But again, I first encountered you folks in the early-2000s.It turns out that it's hard to change existing opinions. Are you a CDN Company or are you a security company?Andy: Oh, super—Corey: In other words, if someone wind up mis-alphabetizing that and they're about to get censured after this show because, “No, we're a CDN, first; why did you put security first?”Andy: You know, so all those things feed off each other, right? And this has been a question where it's like, you know, our security layer and our distributed WAF and other security offerings run on top of the CDN layer. So, it's all about building a common compute edge and then leveraging that for new applications. CDN was the first application. The next and second application was security.And we think the third application, but probably not the final one, is compute. So, I think I don't think anyone in marketing will be fired by the ordering that they did on that. I think that ultimately now, you know, for—just if we look at it from a monetary perspective, right, we do more security than we do CDN. So, there's a lot that we have in the security business. And you know, compute's got a long way to go, especially because it's not just one big data center of compute; it is a different flavor than I think folks have seen before.Corey: When I was at RSA, you folks were one of the exhibitors there. And I like to make the common observation that there are basically six companies that exhibit at RSA. Yeah, there are hundreds of booths, but it's the same six products, all marketed are different logos with different words. And they all seem to approach it from a few relatively expectable personas and positions. I've always found myself agreeing with the things that you folks say, and maybe it's because of my own network-centric background, but it doesn't seem like you take the same approach that a number of other companies do or it's, “Oh, it has to start with the way that developers write their first line of code.” Instead, it seems to take a holistic view that comes from the starting position of everything talks to each other on a network basis, and from here, let's move forward. Is that accurate to how you view the security space?Andy: Yeah, you know, our view of the security space is—again, it's a network-centric one, right? And our work in the security space initially came from really big DDoS attacks, right? And how do we stop Distributed Denial of Service attacks from impacting folks? And that was the initial benefit that we brought. And from there, we evolved our story around, you know, how do we have a more sophisticated WAF? How do we have predictive capabilities at the edge?So ultimately, we're not about ingraining into your process of how your thing was written or telling you how to write it. We're about, you know, essentially being that perimeter edge that is watching and monitoring everything that comes into you to make sure that, you know, hey, we're not seeing Log4j-type exploits coming at you, and we'll let you know if we do, or to block malicious activity. So, we fit on anything, which is why our security business has been so successful. If you have an application on the edge, you can put Akamai Security in front of it and it's going to make your application better. That's been super compelling for the last, you know, again, last decade or so that we've really been focused on security.Corey: I think that it is a mistake to take a security model that starts with a view of what people have in front of them day-to-day—like, I look at my laptop and say, “Oh, this is what I spend my time on. This is where all security must start and stop.” Because yeah, okay, great. If you get physical access to my laptop, it's pretty much game over on some level. But yeah, if you're at a point where you're going to bust into my house and threaten me in order to get access to my laptop, here you go.There are no secrets that I am in possession of that are worth dying for. It's just money and that's okay. But looking at it through a lens of the internet has gone from science experiment to thing that the nerds love to use to a cornerstone of the fabric of modern society. And that's not because of the magic supercomputer that we all have in our pockets, but rather because those magic supercomputers can talk to the sum total of human knowledge and any other human anywhere on the planet, basically, ever. And I don't know that that evolution has been really appreciated by society at large as far as just how empowering that can be. But it completely changes the entire security paradigm from back in the '80s when I got started, don't put untrusted floppy disks into your computer or it might literally explode on your desk.Andy: [laugh]. So, we're talking about floppy disks now? Yes. So, first of all, the scope of impact of the internet has increased, meaning what you can do with it has increased. And directly proportional to that increase the threat vectors have increased, right? And the more systems are connected, the more vulnerabilities there are.So listen, it's easy to scare anybody about security on the internet. It is a topic that is an infinite well of scariness. At the same time, you know, and not just Akamai, but there's a lot of companies out there that can, whether it's making your development more secure, making your pipeline, your digital supply chain a more secure, or then you know where Akamai is, we're at the end, which is you know, helping to wrap around your entire web presence to make it more secure, there's a variety of companies that are out there really making the internet work from a security perspective. And honestly, there's also been tremendous progress on the operating system front in the last several years, which previously was not as good—probably is way to characterize it—as it is today. So, and you know, at the end of the day, the nerds are still out there working, right?We are out here still working on making the internet, you know, scale better, making it more secure, making it more robust because we're probably not done, right? You know, phones are awesome, and tablet devices, et cetera, are awesome, but we've probably got more coming. We don't quite know what that is yet, but we want to have the capacity, safety, and compute to power it.Corey: How does Macrometa as a persistent data layer tie into your future vision of security first as what Akamai does? I can see a few directions, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that before you folks decided to make an investment in such a thing, you probably gave it more than the 30 seconds or whatnot or so a thought that I've had to wind up putting these pieces together.Andy: So, a few things there. First of all, Macrometa, ultimately, we see them coming in the front door with our compute solution, right? Because as folks are building capabilities on the edge, “Hey, I want to run compute on the edge. How do I interoperate with data?” The worst answer possible is, “Well, call back to the centralized data store.”So, we want to ensure that customers have choice and performance options for distributed data access. Macrometa fits great there. However, now pause that; let's transition back to the security point you raised, which is, you know, coordinating an edge data security platform is a really complicated thing. Because you want to make sure that threats that are coming in on one side of the network, or you know, in one given country, you know, are also understood throughout the network. And there's a definite role for a data platform in doing that.We obviously, you know, for the last ten years have built several that help accomplish that at scale for our network, but we also recognize that, you know, innovation in data platforms is probably not done. And you know, Macrometa's got some pretty interesting approaches. So, we're very interested in working with them and talking jointly with customers, which we've done a bunch of, to see how that progresses. But there's tie-ins, I would say, mostly on compute, but secondarily, there's a lot of interesting areas with real-time security intel, they can be very useful as well.Corey: Since I have you here, I would love to ask you something that's a little orthogonal to the rest of this conversation, but I don't even care about that because that's why it's my show; I can ask what I want.Andy: Oh, no.Corey: Talk to me a little bit about the Linode acquisition. Because when it first came out, I thought, “Oh, Linode must not be doing well, so it's an acqui-hire scenario.” Followed by, “Wait a minute, that doesn't seem quite right.” And I dug deeper, and suddenly, I started to see a bunch of things that made sense. But that's just my outside perspective. I prefer to see you justify what it is that you've done.Andy: Justify what we've done. Well, with that positive framing—Corey: Exactly. “Explain yourself. How dare you, sir?”Andy: [laugh]. “What are you doing?” So, to take that, which is first of all, Linode was doing great when we bought them and they're continuing to do great now. You know, backstory here is actually a fun one. So, I personally have been a customer of Linode for about 13 years, and you know, super familiar with their offerings, as we're a bunch of other folks at Akamai.And what ultimately attracted us to Linode was, first of all, from a strategic perspective, is we talked about how Akamai thinks about Compute being a gradient of compute: you've got the edge, you've got kind of a middle tier, and you've got more centralized locations. Akamai has the edge, we've got the middle, we didn't have the central. Linode has got the central. And obviously, you know, we're going to see some significant expansion of capacity and scale there, but they've got the central location. And, you know, ultimately, we feel that there's a lot of passion in Linode.You know, they're a Linux open-source-centric company, and believe it or not Akamai is, too. I mean, you know, that's kind of how it works. And there was a great connection between the sorts of folks that they had and how they think about customers. Linode was a really customer-driven company. I mean, they were fanatical.I mean, I as a, you know, customer of $30 a month personally, could open a ticket and I'd get an answer in five minutes. And that's very similar to kind of how Akamai is driven, which is we're very customer-centric, and when a customer has a problem or need something different, you know, we're on it. So, there's literally nothing bad there and it's a super exciting beginning of a new chapter for Akamai, which is really how do we tackle compute? We're super excited to have the Linode team. You know, they're still mostly down in Philadelphia doing their thing.And, you know, we've hired substantially and we're continuing to do so, so if you want to work there, drop a note over. And it's been fantastic. And it's one of our, you know, really large acquisitions that we've done, and I think we were really lucky to find a great company in such a good position and be able to make it work.Corey: From my perspective, one of the areas that has me excited about the acquisition stems from what I would consider to be something of a customer-base culture misalignment between the two companies. One of the things that I have always enjoyed about Linode—and in the interest of full transparency, they have been a periodic sponsor over the last five or six years of my ridiculous nonsense. I believe that they are not at the moment which I expect you to immediately rectify after this conversation, of course.Andy: I'll give you my credit card. Yeah.Corey: Excellent. Excellent. We do not get in the way of people trying to give you money. But it was great because that's exactly it. I could take a credit card in the middle of the night and spin up things on Linode.And it was one of those companies that aligned very closely to how I tended to view cloud infrastructure from the perspective of, I need a Linux box, or I need a bunch of Linux boxes right there, right now, and I don't have 12 weeks to go to cloud school to learn the intricacies of a given provider. It more or less just worked in a whole bunch of easy ways. Whereas if I wanted to roll out at Akamai, it was always I would pull up the website, and it's, “Click here to talk to our enterprise sales team.” And that tells me two things. One, it is probably going to be outside of my signing authority because no one trusts me with money for obvious reasons, when I was an employee, and two, you will not be going to space today because those conversations always take time.And it's going to be—if I'm in a hurry and trying to get something out the door, that is going to act as a significant drag on capability. Now, most of your customers do not launch things by the seat of their pants, three hours after the idea first occurs to them, but on Linode, that often seems to be the case. The idea of addressing developers early on in the ‘it's just an idea' phase. I can't shake the feeling that there's a definite future in which Linode winds up being able to speak much more effectively to enterprise, while Akamai also learns to speak to, honestly, half-awake shitposters at 2 a.m. when we're building something heinous.Andy: I feel like you've been sitting in on our strategy presentations. Maybe not the shitposters, but the rest of it. And I think the way that I would couch it, my corporate-speak of that, would be that there's a distinct yin and yang, there a complementary nature between the customer bases of Akamai, which has, you know, an incredible list of enterprise customers—I mean, the who's-who of enterprise customers, Akamai works with them—but then, you know, Linode, who has really tremendous representation of developers—that's what we'll use for the name posts—like, folks like myself included, right, who want to throw something together, want to spin up a VM, and then maybe tear it down and never do it again, or maybe set up 100 of them. And, to your point, the crossover opportunities there, which is, you know, Linode has done a really good job of having small customers that grow over time. And by having Akamai, you know, you can now grow, and never have to leave because we're going to be able to bring enough scale and throughput and, you know, professional help services as you need it to help you stay in the ecosystem.And similarly, Akamai has a tremendous—you know, the benefit of a tremendous set of enterprise customers who are out there, you know, frankly, looking to solve their compute challenges, saying, “Hey, I have a highly distributed application. Akamai, how can you help me with this?” Or, “Hey, I need presence in x or y.” And now we have, you know, with Linode, the right tools to support that. And yes, we can make all kinds of jokes about, you know, Akamai and Linode and different, you know, people and archetypes we appeal to, but ultimately, there's an alignment between Akamai and Linode on how we approach things, which is about Linux, open-source, it's about technical honesty and simplicity. So, great group of folks. And secondly, like, I think the customer crossover, you're right on it. And we're very excited for how that goes.Corey: I also want to call out that Macrometa seems to have split this difference perfectly. One of the first things I visit on any given company's page when I'm trying to understand them is the pricing page. It's one of those areas where people spend the least time, early on, but it's also where they tend to be the most honest. Maybe that's why. And I look for two things, and Macrometa has both of them.The first is a ‘try it for free, right now, get started.' It's a free-tier approach. Because even if you charge $10 or whatnot, there are many developers working on things in odd hours where they don't necessarily either have the ability to make that purchase decision, know that they have the ability to make that purchase decision, or are willing to do that by the seat of their pants. So, ‘get started for free' is important; it means you can develop right now. Conversely, there are a bunch of enterprise procurement departments out there who will want a whole bunch of custom things.Custom SLAs, custom support responses, custom everything, and they also don't know how to sign a check that doesn't have two commas in it. So, you don't probably want to avoid those customers, but what they're looking for is an enterprise offering that is no price. There should not be a price tag on that because you will never get it right for everyone, but what they want to see is ‘click here to contact sales.' That is coded language for, “We are serious professionals and know who you are and how you like to operate.” They've got both and I think that is absolutely the right decision.Andy: It do—Corey: And whatever you have in between those two is almost irrelevant.Andy: No, I think you're on it. And Macrometa, their pricing philosophy allows you to get in and try it with zero friction, which is super important. Like, I don't even have to use a credit card. I can experiment for free, I can try it for free, but then as I grow their pricing tier kind of scales along with that. And it's a—you know, that is the way that folks try applications.I always try to think about, hey, you know, if I'm on a team and we're tasked with putting together a proof of concept for something in two days, and I've got, you know, a couple folks working with me, how do I do that? And you don't have time for procurement, you might need to use the free thing to experiment. So, there is a lot that they can do. And you know, their pricing—this transparency of pricing that they have is fantastic. Now, Linode, also very transparent, we don't have a free tier, but you know, you can get in for very low friction and try that as well.Corey: Yeah, companies tend to go through a maturity curve evolution on these things. I've talked to companies that purely view it is how much money a given customer is spending determines how much attention they get. And it's like, “Yeah, maybe take a look through some of your smaller users or new signups there.” Yeah, they're spending $10 a month or whatnot, but their email address is@cocacola.com. Just spitballing here; maybe you might want a white-glove a few of those folks, just because not everyone comes in the door via an RFP.Andy: Yep. We look at customers for what your potential is, right? Like, you know, how much could you end up spending with us, right? You know, so if you're building your application on Linode, and you're going to spend $20, for the first couple months, that's totally fine. Get in there, experiment, and then you know, in the next several years, let's see where it goes. So, you're exactly right, which is, you know, that username@enterprisedomain.com is often much more indicative than what the actual bill is on a monthly basis.Corey: I always find it a little strange when I have a vendor that I'm doing business with, and then suddenly, an account person reaches out, like, hey, let's just have a call for half an hour to talk about what you're doing and how you're doing it. It's my immediate response to that these days, just of too many years doing that, as, “I really need to look at that bill. How much are we spending, again?” And I honestly, usually not that much because believe it or not, when you focus on cloud economics for a living, you pay attention to your credit card bills, but it is always interesting to see who reaches out and who doesn't. That's been a strange approach, and there is no one right answer for all of this.If every free tier account user of any given cloud provider wound up getting constant emails from their account managers, it's how desperate are you to grow revenue, and what are you about to do to pricing? At some level of becomes… unhelpful.Andy: I can see that. I've had, personally, situations where I'm a trial user of something, and all of a sudden I get emails—you know, using personal email addresses, no Akamai involvement—all of a sudden, I'm getting emails. And I'm like, “Really? Did I make the priority list for you to call me and leave me a voicemail, and then email me?” I don't know how that's possible.So, from a personal perspective, totally see that. You know, from an account development perspective, you know, kind of with the Akamai hat on, it's challenging, right? You know, folks are out there trying to figure out where business is going to come from. And I think if you're able to get an indicator that somebody, you know, maybe you're going to call that person at enterprisedomain.com to try to figure out, you know, hey, is this real and is this you with a side project or is this you with a proof of concept for something that could be more fruitful? And, you know, Corey, they're probably just calling you because you're you.Corey: One of the things that I was surprised by where I saw the exact same thing. I started getting a series of emails from my account manager for Google Workspaces. Okay, and then I really did a spit-take when I realized this was on my personal address. Okay… so I read this carefully because what the hell is happening? Oh, they're raising prices and it's a campaign. Great.Now, my one-user vanity domain is going to go from $6 a month to $8 a month or whatever. Cool, I don't care. This is not someone actively trying to reach out as a human being. It's an outreach campaign. Cool, fair. But that's the problem, on some level, for super-tiny customers. It's a, what is it, is it a shakedown? What are they about to yell at me for?Andy: No, I got the same thing. My Google Workspace personal account, which is, like, two people, right? Like, and I got an email and then I think, like, a voicemail. And I'm like, I read the email and I'm like—you know, it's going—again, it's like, it was like six something and now it's, like, eight something a month. So, it's like, “Okay. You're all right.”Corey: Just go—that's what you have a credit card for. Go ahead and charge it. It's fine. Now, yeah, counterpoint if you're a large company, and yeah, we're just going to be raising prices by 20% across the board for everyone, and you look at this and like, that's a phone number. Yeah, I kind of want some special outreach and conversations there. But it's odd.Andy: It's interesting. Yeah. They're great.Corey: Last question before we call this an episode. In 22 years, how have you seen the market change from your perspective? Most people do not work in the industry from one company's perspective for as long as you have. That gives you a somewhat privileged position to see, from a point of relative stability, what the industry has done.Andy: So—Corey: What have you noticed?Andy: —and I'm going to give you an answer, which is about, like, the sales cycle, which is it used to be about meetings and about everybody coming together and used to have to occasionally wear a suit. And there would be, you know, meetings where you would need to get a CEO or CFO to personally see a presentation and decide something and say, “Okay, we're going with X or Y. We're going to make a decision.” And today, those decisions are, pretty far and wide, made much, much further down in the organization. They're made by developers, team leads, project managers, program managers.So, the way people engage with customers today is so different. First of all, like, most meetings are still virtual. I mean, like, yeah, we have physical meetings and we get together for things, but like, so much more is done virtually, which is cool because we built the internet so we wouldn't have to go anywhere, so it's nice that we got that landed. It's unfortunate that we had to do with Covid to get there, but ultimately, I think that purchasing decisions and technology decisions are distributed so much more deeply into the organization than they were. It used to be a, like, C-level thing. We're now seeing that stuff happened much further down in the organization.We see that inside Akamai and we see it with our customers as well. It's been, honestly, refreshing because you tend to be able to engage with technical folks when you're talking about technical products. And you know, the business folks are still there and they're helping to guide the discussions and all that, but it's a much better time, I think, to be a technical person now than it probably was 20 years ago.Corey: I would say that being a technical person has gotten easier in a bunch of ways; it's gotten harder in a bunch of ways. I would say that it has transformed. I was very opposed to the idea that oh, as a sysadmin, why should I learn to write code? And in retrospect, it was because I wasn't sure I could do it and it felt like the rising tide was going to drown me. And in hindsight, yeah, it was the right direction for the industry to go in.But I'm also sensitive to folks who don't want to, midway through their career, pick up an entirely new skill set in order to remain relevant. I think that it is a lot easier to do some things. Back when Akamai started, it took an intimate knowledge of GCC compiler flags, in most cases, to host a website. Now, it is checking a box on a web page and you're done. Things have gotten easier.The abstractions continue to slip below the waterline, so the things we have to care about getting more and more meaningful to the business. We're nowhere near our final form yet, but I'm very excited about how accessible this industry is to folks that previously would not have been, while also disheartened by just how much there is to know. Otherwise, “Oh yeah, that entire aspect of the way that this core thing that runs my business, yeah, that's basically magic and we just hope the magic doesn't stop working, or we make a sacrifice to the proper God, which is usually a giant trillion-dollar company.” And the sacrifice is, of course, engineering time combined with money.Andy: You know, technology is all about abstraction layers, right? And I think—that's my view, right—and we've been spending the last several decades, not, ‘we' Akamai; ‘we' the technology industry—on, you know, coming up with some pretty solid abstraction layers. And you're right, like, the, you know, GCC j6—you know, -j6—you know, kind of compiler tags not that important anymore, we could go back in time and talk about inetd, the first serverless. But other than that, you know, as we get to the present day, I think what's really interesting is you can contribute technically without being a super coding nerd. There's all kinds of different technical approaches today and technical disciplines that aren't just about development.Development is super important, but you know, frankly, the sysadmin skill set is more valuable today if you look at what SREs have become and how important they are to the industry. I mean, you know, those are some of the most critical folks in the entire piping here. So, don't feel bad for starting out as a sysadmin. I think that's my closing comment back to you.Corey: I think that's probably a good place to leave it. I really want to thank you for being so generous with your time.Andy: Anytime.Corey: If people want to learn more about how you see the world, where can they find you?Andy: Yeah, I mean, I guess you could check me out on LinkedIn. Happy to shoot me something there and happy to catch up. I'm pretty much read-only on social, so I don't pontificate a lot on Twitter, but—Corey: Such a good decision.Andy: Feel free to shoot me something on LinkedIn if you want to get in touch or chat about Akamai.Corey: Excellent. And of course, our thanks goes well, to the fine folks at Macrometa who have promoted this episode. It is always appreciated when people wind up supporting this ridiculous nonsense that I do. My guest has been Andy Champagne SVP at the CTO office over at Akamai. I'm Cloud Economist Corey Quinn, and this is Screaming in the Cloud. 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About ChetanChetan Venkatesh is a technology startup veteran focused on distributed data, edge computing, and software products for enterprises and developers. He has 20 years of experience in building primary data storage, databases, and data replication products. Chetan holds a dozen patents in the area of distributed computing and data storage.Chetan is the CEO and Co-Founder of Macrometa – a Global Data Network featuring a Global Data Mesh, Edge Compute, and In-Region Data Protection. Macrometa helps enterprise developers build real-time apps and APIs in minutes – not months.Links Referenced: Macrometa: https://www.macrometa.com Macrometa Developer Week: https://www.macrometa.com/developer-week TranscriptAnnouncer: Hello, and welcome to Screaming in the Cloud with your host, Chief Cloud Economist at The Duckbill Group, Corey Quinn. This weekly show features conversations with people doing interesting work in the world of cloud, thoughtful commentary on the state of the technical world, and ridiculous titles for which Corey refuses to apologize. This is Screaming in the Cloud.Corey: Forget everything you know about SSH and try Tailscale. Imagine if you didn't need to manage PKI or rotate SSH keys every time someone leaves. That'd be pretty sweet, wouldn't it? With Tailscale SSH, you can do exactly that. Tailscale gives each server and user device a node key to connect to its VPN, and it uses the same node key to authorize and authenticate SSH.Basically you're SSHing the same way you manage access to your app. What's the benefit here? Built in key rotation permissions is code connectivity between any two devices, reduce latency and there's a lot more, but there's a time limit here. You can also ask users to reauthenticate for that extra bit of security. Sounds expensive?Nope, I wish it were. tail scales. Completely free for personal use on up to 20 devices. To learn more, visit snark.cloud/tailscale. Again, that's snark.cloud/tailscaleCorey: Managing shards. Maintenance windows. Overprovisioning. ElastiCache bills. I know, I know. It's a spooky season and you're already shaking. It's time for caching to be simpler. Momento Serverless Cache lets you forget the backend to focus on good code and great user experiences. With true autoscaling and a pay-per-use pricing model, it makes caching easy. No matter your cloud provider, get going for free at gomomento.co/screaming That's GO M-O-M-E-N-T-O dot co slash screamingCorey: Welcome to Screaming in the Cloud. I'm Corey Quinn. Today, this promoted guest episode is brought to us basically so I can ask a question that has been eating at me for a little while. That question is, what is the edge? Because I have a lot of cynical sarcastic answers to it, but that doesn't really help understanding. My guest today is Chetan Venkatesh, CEO and co-founder at Macrometa. Chetan, thank you for joining me.Chetan: It's my pleasure, Corey. You're one of my heroes. I think I've told you this before, so I am absolutely delighted to be here.Corey: Well, thank you. We all need people to sit on the curb and clap as we go by and feel like giant frauds in the process. So let's start with the easy question that sets up the rest of it. Namely, what is Macrometa, and what puts you in a position to be able to speak at all, let alone authoritatively, on what the edge might be?Chetan: I'll answer the second part of your question first, which is, you know, what gives me the authority to even talk about this? Well, for one, I've been trying to solve the same problem for 20 years now, which is build distributed systems that work really fast and can answer questions about data in milliseconds. And my journey's sort of been like the spiral staircase journey, you know, I keep going around in circles, but the view just keeps getting better every time I do one of these things. So I'm on my fourth startup doing distributed data infrastructure, and this time really focused on trying to provide a platform that's the antithesis of the cloud. It's kind of like taking the cloud and flipping it on its head because instead of having a single region application where all your stuff runs in one place, on us-west-1 or us-east-1, what if your apps could run everywhere, like, they could run in hundreds and hundreds of cities around the world, much closer to where your users and devices and most importantly, where interesting things in the real world are happening?And so we started Macrometa about five years back to build a new kind of distributed cloud—let's call the edge—that kind of looks like a CDN, a Content Delivery Network, but really brings very sophisticated platform-level primitives for developers to build applications in a distributed way around primitives for compute, primitives for data, but also some very interesting things that you just can't do in the cloud anymore. So that's Macrometa. And we're doing something with edge computing, which is a big buzzword these days, but I'm sure you'll ask me about that.Corey: It seems to be. Generally speaking, when I look around and companies are talking about edge, it feels almost like it is a redefining of what they already do to use a term that is currently trending and deep in the hype world.Chetan: Yeah. You know, I think humans just being biologically social beings just tend to be herd-like, and so when we see a new trend, we like to slap it on everything we have. We did that 15 years back with cloud, if you remember, you know? Everybody was very busy trying to stick the cloud label on everything that was on-prem. Edge is sort of having that edge-washing moment right now.But I define edge very specifically is very different from the cloud. You know, where the cloud is defined by centralization, i.e., you've got a giant hyperscale data center somewhere far, far away, where typically electricity, real estate, and those things are reasonably cheap, i.e., not in urban centers, where those things tend to be expensive.You know, you have platforms where you run things at scale, it's sort of a your mess for less business in the cloud and somebody else manages that for you. The edge is actually defined by location. And there are three types of edges. The first edge is the CDN edge, which is historically where we've been trying to make things faster with the internet and make the internet scale. So Akamai came about, about 20 years back and created this thing called the CDN that allowed the web to scale. And that was the first killer app for edge, actually. So that's the first location that defines the edge where a lot of the peering happens between different network providers and the on-ramp around the cloud happens.The second edge is the telecom edge. That's actually right next to you in terms of, you know, the logical network topology because every time you do something on your computer, it goes through that telecom layer. And now we have the ability to actually run web services, applications, data, directly from that telecom layer.And then the third edge is—sort of, people have been familiar with this for 30 years. The third edge is your device, just your mobile phone. It's your internet gateway and, you know, things that you carry around in your pocket or sit on your desk, where you have some compute power, but it's very restricted and it only deals with things that are interesting or important to you as a person, not in a broad range. So those are sort of the three things. And it's not the cloud. And these three things are now becoming important as a place for you to build and run enterprise apps.Corey: Something that I think is often overlooked here—and this is sort of a natural consequence of the cloud's own success and the joy that we live in a system that we do where companies are required to always grow and expand and find new markets—historically, for example, when I went to AWS re:Invent, which is a cloud service carnival in the desert that no one in the right mind should ever want to attend but somehow we keep doing, it used to be that, oh, these announcements are generally all aligned with people like me, where I have specific problems and they look a lot like what they're talking about on stage. And now they're talking about things that, from that perspective, seem like Looney Tunes. Like, I'm trying to build Twitter for Pets or something close to it, and I don't understand why there's so much talk about things like industrial IoT and, “Machine learning,” quote-unquote, and other things that just do not seem to align with. I'm trying to build a web service, like it says on the name of a company; what gives?And part of that, I think, is that it's difficult to remember, for most of us—especially me—that what they're coming out with is not your shopping list. Every service is for someone, not every service is for everyone, so figuring out what it is that they're talking about and what those workloads look like, is something that I think is getting lost in translation. And in our defense—collective defense—Amazon is not the best at telling stories to realize that, oh, this is not me they're talking to; I'm going to opt out of this particular thing. You figure it out by getting it wrong first. Does that align with how you see the market going?Chetan: I think so. You know, I think of Amazon Web Services, or even Google, or Azure as sort of Costco and, you know, Sam's Wholesale Club or whatever, right? They cater to a very broad audience and they sell a lot of stuff in bulk and cheap. And you know, so it's sort of a lowest common denominator type of a model. And so emerging applications, and especially emerging needs that enterprises have, don't necessarily get solved in the cloud. You've got to go and build up yourself on sort of the crude primitives that they provide.So okay, go use your bare basic EC2, your S3, and build your own edgy, or whatever, you know, cutting edge thing you want to build over there. And if enough people are doing it, I'm sure Amazon and Google start to pay interest and you know, develop something that makes it easier. So you know, I agree with you, they're not the best at this sort of a thing. The edge is phenomenon also that's orthogonally, and diametrically opposite to the architecture of the cloud and the economics of the cloud.And we do centralization in the cloud in a big way. Everything is in one place; we make giant piles of data in one database or data warehouse slice and dice it, and almost all our computer science is great at doing things in a centralized way. But when you take data and chop it into 50 copies and keep it in 50 different places on Earth, and you have this thing called the internet or the wide area network in the middle, trying to keep all those copies in sync is a nightmare. So you start to deal with some very basic computer science problems like distributed state and how do you build applications that have a consistent view of that distributed state? So you know, there have been attempts to solve these problems for 15, 18 years, but none of those attempts have really cracked the intersection of three things: a way for programmers to do this in a way that doesn't blow their heads with complexity, a way to do this cheaply and effectively enough where you can build real-world applications that serve billions of users concurrently at a cost point that actually is economical and make sense, and third, a way to do this with adequate levels of performance where you don't die waiting for the spinning wheel on your screen to go away.So these are the three problems with edge. And as I said, you know, me and my team, we've been focused on this for a very long while. And me and my co-founder have come from this world and we created a platform very uniquely designed to solve these three problems, the problems of complexity for programmers to build in a distributed environment like this where data sits in hundreds of places around the world and you need a consistent view of that data, being able to operate and modify and replicate that data with consistency guarantees, and then a third one, being able to do that, at high levels of performance, which translates to what we call ultra-low latency, which is human perception. The threshold of human perception, visually, is about 70 milliseconds. Our finest athletes, the best Esports players are about 70 to 80 milliseconds in their twitch, in their ability to twitch when something happens on the screen. The average human is about 100 to 110 milliseconds.So in a second, we can maybe do seven things at rapid rates. You know, that's how fast our brain can process it. Anything that falls below 100 milliseconds—especially if it falls into 50 to 70 milliseconds—appears instantaneous to the human mind and we experience it as magic. And so where edge computing and where my platform comes in is that it literally puts data and applications within 50 milliseconds of 90% of humans and devices on Earth and allows now a whole new set of applications where latency and location and the ability to control those things with really fine-grained capability matters. And we can talk a little more about what those apps are in a bit.Corey: And I think that's probably an interesting place to dive into at the moment because whenever we talk about the idea of new ways of building things that are aimed at decentralization, first, people at this point automatically have a bit of an aversion to, “Wait, are you talking about some of the Web3 nonsense?” It's one of those look around the poker table and see if you can spot the sucker, and if you can't, it's you. Because there are interesting aspects to that entire market, let's be clear, but it also seems to be occluded by so much of the grift and nonsense and spam and the rest that, again, sort of characterize the early internet as well. The idea though, of decentralizing out of the cloud is deeply compelling just to anyone who's really ever had to deal with the egress charges, or even the data transfer charges inside of one of the cloud providers. The counterpoint is it feels that historically, you either get to pay the tax and go all-in on a cloud provider and get all the higher-level niceties, or otherwise, you wind up deciding you're going to have to more or less go back to physical data centers, give or take, and other than the very baseline primitives that you get to work with of VMs and block storage and maybe a load balancer, you're building it all yourself from scratch. It seems like you're positioning this as setting up for a third option. I'd be very interested to hear it.Chetan: Yeah. And a quick comment on decentralization: good; not so sure about the Web3 pieces around it. We tend to talk about computer science and not the ideology of distributing data. There are political reasons, there are ideological reasons around data and sovereignty and individual human rights, and things like that. There are people far smarter than me who should explain that.I fall personally into the Nicholas Weaver school of skepticism about Web3 and blockchain and those types of things. And for readers who are not familiar with Nicholas Weaver, please go online. He teaches at UC Berkeley is just one of the finest minds of our time. And I think he's broken down some very good reasons why we should be skeptical about, sort of, Web3 and, you know, things like that. Anyway, that's a digression.Coming back to what we're talking about, yes, it is a new paradigm, but that's the challenge, which is I don't want to introduce a new paradigm. I want to provide a continuum. So what we've built is a platform that looks and feels very much like Lambdas, and a poly-model database. I hate the word multi. It's a pretty dumb word, so I've started to substitute ‘multi' with ‘poly' everywhere, wherever I can find it.So it's not multi-cloud; it's poly-cloud. And it's not multi-model; it's poly-model. Because what we want is a world where developers have the ability to use the best paradigm for solving problems. And it turns out when we build applications that deal with data, data doesn't just come in one form, it comes in many different forms, it's polymorphic, and so you need a data platform, that's also, you know, polyglot and poly-model to be able to handle that. So that's one part of the problem, which is, you know, we're trying to provide a platform that provides continuity by looking like a key-value store like Redis. It looks like a document database—Corey: Or the best database in the world Route 53 TXT records. But please, keep going.Chetan: Well, we've got that too, so [laugh] you know? And then we've got a streaming graph engine built into it that kind of looks and behaves like a graph database, like Neo4j, for example. And, you know, it's got columnar capabilities as well. So it's sort of a really interesting data platform that is not open-source; it's proprietary because it's designed to solve these problems of being able to distribute data, put it in hundreds of locations, keep it all in sync, but it looks like a conventional NoSQL database. And it speaks PostgreSQL, so if you know PostgreSQL, you can program it, you know, pretty easily.What it's also doing is taking away the responsibility for engineers and developers to understand how to deal with very arcane problems like conflict resolution in data. I made a change in Mumbai; you made a change in Tokyo; who wins? Our systems in the cloud—you know, DynamoDB, and things like that—they have very crude answers for this something called last writer wins. We've done a lot of work to build a protocol that brings you ACID-like consistency in these types of problems and makes it easy to reason with state change when you've got an application that's potentially running in 100 locations and each of those places is modifying the same record, for example.And then the second part of it is it's a converged platform. So it doesn't just provide data; it provides a compute layer that's deeply integrated directly with the data layer itself. So think of it as Lambdas running, like, stored procedures inside the database. That's really what it is. We've built a very, very specialized compute engine that exposes containers in functions as stored procedures directly on the database.And so they run inside the context of the database and so you can build apps in Python, Go, your favorite language; it compiles down into a [unintelligible 00:15:02] kernel that actually runs inside the database among all these different polyglot interfaces that we have. And the third thing that we do is we provide an ability for you to have very fine-grained control on your data. Because today, data's become a political tool; it's become something that nation-states care a lot about.Corey: Oh, do they ever.Chetan: Exactly. And [unintelligible 00:15:24] regulated. So here's the problem. You're an enterprise architect and your application is going to be consumed in 15 countries, there are 13 different frameworks to deal with. What do you do? Well, you spin up 13 different versions, one for each country, and you know, build 13 different teams, and have 13 zero-day attacks and all that kind of craziness, right?Well, data protection is actually one of the most important parts of the edge because, with something like Macrometa, you can build an app once, and we'll provide all the necessary localization for any region processing, data protection with things like tokenization of data so you can exfiltrate data securely without violating potentially PII sensitive data exfiltration laws within countries, things like that, i.e. It's solving some really hard problems by providing an opinionated platform that does these three things. And I'll summarize it as thus, Corey, we can kind of dig into each piece. Our platform is called the Global Data Network. It's not a global database; it's a global data network. It looks like a frickin database, but it's actually a global network available in 175 cities around the world.Corey: The challenge, of course, is where does the data actually live at rest, and—this is why people care about—well, they're two reasons people care about that; one is the data residency locality stuff, which has always, honestly for me, felt a little bit like a bit of a cloud provider shakedown. Yeah, build a data center here or you don't get any of the business of anything that falls under our regulation. The other is, what is the egress cost of that look like? Because yeah, I can build a whole multicenter data store on top of AWS, for example, but minimum, we're talking two cents, a gigabyte of transfer, even with inside of a region in some cases, and many times that externally.Chetan: Yeah, that's the real shakedown: the egress costs [laugh] more than the other example that you talked about over there. But it's a reality of how cloud pricing works and things like that. What we have built is a network that is completely independent of the cloud providers. We're built on top of five different service providers. Some of them are cloud providers, some of them are telecom providers, some of them are CDNs.And so we're building our global data network on top of routes and capacity provided by transfer providers who have different economics than the cloud providers do. So our cost for egress falls somewhere between two and five cents, for example, depending on which edge locations, which countries, and things that you're going to use over there. We've got a pretty generous egress fee where, you know, for certain thresholds, there's no egress charge at all, but over certain thresholds, we start to charge between two to five cents. But even if you were to take it at the higher end of that spectrum, five cents per gigabyte for transfer, the amount of value our platform brings in architecture and reduction in complexity and the ability to build apps that are frankly, mind-boggling—one of my customers is a SaaS company in marketing that uses us to inject offers while people are on their website, you know, browsing. Literally, you hit their website, you do a few things, and then boom, there's a customized offer for them.In banking that's used, for example, you know, you're making your minimum payments on your credit card, but you have a good payment history and you've got a decent credit score, well, let's give you an offer to give you a short-term loan, for example. So those types of new applications, you know, are really at this intersection where you need low latency, you need in-region processing, and you also need to comply with data regulation. So when you building a high-value revenue-generating app like that egress cost, even at five cents, right, tends to be very, very cheap, and the smallest part of you know, the complexity of building them.Corey: One of the things that I think we see a lot of is that the tone of this industry is set by the big players, and they have done a reasonable job, by and large, of making anything that isn't running in their blessed environments, let me be direct, sound kind of shitty, where it's like, “Oh, do you want to be smart and run things in AWS?”—or GCP? Or Azure, I guess—“Or do you want to be foolish and try and build it yourself out of popsicle sticks and twine?” And, yeah, on some level, if I'm trying to treat everything like it's AWS and run a crappy analog version of DynamoDB, for example, I'm not going to have a great experience, but if I also start from a perspective of not using things that are higher up the stack offerings, that experience starts to look a lot more reasonable as we start expanding out. But it still does present to a lot of us as well, we're just going to run things in VM somewhere and treat them just like we did back in 2005. What's changed in that perspective?Chetan: Yeah, you know, I can't talk for others but for us, we provide a high-level Platform-as-a-Service, and that platform, the global data network, has three pieces to it. First piece is—and none of this will translate into anything that AWS or GCP has because this is the edge, Corey, is completely different, right? So the global data network that we have is composed of three technology components. The first one is something that we call the global data mesh. And this is Pub/Sub and event processing on steroids. We have the ability to connect data sources across all kinds of boundaries; you've got some data in Germany and you've got some data in New York. How do you put these things together and get them streaming so that you can start to do interesting things with correlating this data, for example?And you might have to get across not just physical boundaries, like, they're sitting in different systems in different data centers; they might be logical boundaries, like, hey, I need to collaborate with data from my supply chain partner and we need to be able to do something that's dynamic in real-time, you know, to solve a business problem. So the global data mesh is a way to very quickly connect data wherever it might be in legacy systems, in flat files, in streaming databases, in data warehouses, what have you—you know, we have 500-plus types of connectors—but most importantly, it's not just getting the data streaming, it's then turning it into an API and making that data fungible. Because the minute you put an API on it and it's become fungible now that data is actually got a lot of value. And so the data mesh is a way to very quickly connect things up and put an API on it. And that API can now be consumed by front-ends, it can be consumed by other microservices, things like that.Which brings me to the second piece, which is edge compute. So we've built a compute runtime that is Docker compatible, so it runs containers, it's also Lambda compatible, so it runs functions. Let me rephrase that; it's not Lambda-compatible, it's Lambda-like. So no, you can't take your Lambda and dump it on us and it won't just work. You have to do some things to make it work on us.Corey: But so many of those things are so deeply integrated to the ecosystem that they're operating within, and—Chetan: Yeah.Corey: That, on the one hand, is presented by cloud providers as, “Oh, yes. This shows how wonderful these things are.” In practice, talk to customers. “Yeah, we're using it as spackle between the different cloud services that don't talk to one another despite being made by the same company.”Chetan: [laugh] right.Corey: It's fun.Chetan: Yeah. So the second edge compute piece, which allows you now to build microservices that are stateful, i.e., they have data that they interact with locally, and schedule them along with the data on our network of 175 regions around the world. So you can build distributed applications now.Now, your microservice back-end for your banking application or for your HR SaaS application or e-commerce application is not running in us-east-1 and Virginia; it's running literally in 15, 18, 25 cities where your end-users are, potentially. And to take an industrial IoT case, for example, you might be ingesting data from the electricity grid in 15, 18 different cities around the world; you can do all of that locally now. So that's what the edge functions does, it flips the cloud model around because instead of sending data to where the compute is in the cloud, you're actually bringing compute to where the data is originating, or the data is being consumed, such as through a mobile app. So that's the second piece.And the third piece is global data protection, which is hey, now I've got a distributed infrastructure; how do I comply with all the different privacy and regulatory frameworks that are out there? How do I keep data secure in each region? How do I potentially share data between regions in such a way that, you know, I don't break the model of compliance globally and create a billion-dollar headache for my CIO and CEO and CFO, you know? So that's the third piece of capabilities that this provides.All of this is presented as a set of serverless APIs. So you simply plug these APIs into your existing applications. Some of your applications work great in the cloud. Maybe there are just parts of that app that should be on our edge. And that's usually where most customers start; they take a single web service or two that's not doing so great in the cloud because it's too far away; it has data sensitivity, location sensitivity, time sensitivity, and so they use us as a way to just deal with that on the edge.And there are other applications where it's completely what I call edge native, i.e., no dependancy on the cloud comes and runs completely distributed across our network and consumes primarily the edges infrastructure, and just maybe send some data back on the cloud for long-term storage or long-term analytics.Corey: And ingest does remain free. The long-term analytics, of course, means that once that data is there, good luck convincing a customer to move it because that gets really expensive.Chetan: Exactly, exactly. It's a speciation—as I like to say—of the cloud, into a fast tier where interactions happen, i.e., the edge. So systems of record are still in the cloud; we still have our transactional systems over there, our databases, data warehouses.And those are great for historical types of data, as you just mentioned, but for things that are operational in nature, that are interactive in nature, where you really need to deal with them because they're time-sensitive, they're depleting value in seconds or milliseconds, they're location sensitive, there's a lot of noise in the data and you need to get to just those bits of data that actually matter, throw the rest away, for example—which is what you do with a lot of telemetry in cybersecurity, for example, right—those are all the things that require a new kind of a platform, not a system of record, a system of interaction, and that's what the global data network is, the GDN. And these three primitives, the data mesh, Edge compute, and data protection, are the way that our APIs are shaped to help our enterprise customers solve these problems. So put it another way, imagine ten years from now what DynamoDB and global tables with a really fast Lambda and Kinesis with actually Event Processing built directly into Kinesis might be like. That's Macrometa today, available in 175 cities.Corey: This episode is brought to us in part by our friends at Datadog. Datadog is a SaaS monitoring and security platform that enables full-stack observability for modern infrastructure and applications at every scale. Datadog enables teams to see everything: dashboarding, alerting, application performance monitoring, infrastructure monitoring, UX monitoring, security monitoring, dog logos, and log management, in one tightly integrated platform. With 600-plus out-of-the-box integrations with technologies including all major cloud providers, databases, and web servers, Datadog allows you to aggregate all your data into one platform for seamless correlation, allowing teams to troubleshoot and collaborate together in one place, preventing downtime and enhancing performance and reliability. Get started with a free 14-day trial by visiting datadoghq.com/screaminginthecloud, and get a free t-shirt after installing the agent.Corey: I think it's also worth pointing out that it's easy for me to fall into a trap that I wonder if some of our listeners do as well, which is, I live in, basically, downtown San Francisco. I have gigabit internet connectivity here, to the point where when it goes out, it is suspicious and more a little bit frightening because my ISP—Sonic.net—is amazing and deserves every bit of praise that you never hear any ISP ever get. But when I travel, it's a very different experience. When I go to oh, I don't know, the conference center at re:Invent last year and find that the internet is patchy at best, or downtown San Francisco on Verizon today, I discover that the internet is almost non-existent, and suddenly applications that I had grown accustomed to just working suddenly didn't.And there's a lot more people who live far away from these data center regions and tier one backbones directly to same than don't. So I think that there's a lot of mistaken ideas around exactly what the lower bandwidth experience of the internet is today. And that is something that feels inadvertently classist if that make sense. Are these geographically bigoted?Chetan: Yeah. No, I think those two points are very well articulated. I wish I could articulate it that well. But yes, if you can afford 5G, some of those things get better. But again, 5G is not everywhere yet. It will be, but 5G can in many ways democratize at least one part of it, which is provide an overlap network at the edge, where if you left home and you switched networks, on to a wireless, you can still get the same quality of service that you used to getting from Sonic, for example. So I think it can solve some of those things in the future. But the second part of it—what did you call it? What bigoted?Corey: Geographically bigoted. And again, that's maybe a bit of a strong term, but it's easy to forget that you can't get around the speed of light. I would say that the most poignant example of that I had was when I was—in the before times—giving a keynote in Australia. So ah, I know what I'll do, I'll spin up an EC2 instance for development purposes—because that's how I do my development—in Australia. And then I would just pay my provider for cellular access for my iPad and that was great.And I found the internet was slow as molasses for everything I did. Like, how do people even live here? Well, turns out that my provider would backhaul traffic to the United States. So to log into my session, I would wind up having to connect with a local provider, backhaul to the US, then connect back out from there to Australia across the entire Pacific Ocean, talk to the server, get the response, would follow that return path. It's yeah, turns out that doing laps around the world is not the most efficient way of transferring any data whatsoever, let alone in sizable amounts.Chetan: And that's why we decided to call our platform the global data network, Corey. In fact, it's really built inside of sort of a very simple reason is that we have our own network underneath all of this and we stop this whole ping-pong effect of data going around and help create deterministic guarantees around latency, around location, around performance. We're trying to democratize latency and these types of problems in a way that programmers shouldn't have to worry about all this stuff. You write your code, you push publish, it runs on a network, and it all gets there with a guarantee that 95% of all your requests will happen within 50 milliseconds round-trip time, from any device, you know, in these population centers around the world.So yeah, it's a big deal. It's sort of one of our je ne sais quoi pieces in our mission and charter, which is to just democratize latency and access, and sort of get away from this geographical nonsense of, you know, how networks work and it will dynamically switch topology and just make everything slow, you know, very non-deterministic way.Corey: One last topic that I want to ask you about—because I near certain given your position, you will have an opinion on this—what's your take on, I guess, the carbon footprint of clouds these days? Because a lot of people been talking about it; there has been a lot of noise made about, justifiably so. I'm curious to get your take.Chetan: Yeah, you know, it feels like we're in the '30s and the '40s of the carbon movement when it comes to clouds today, right? Maybe there's some early awareness of the problem, but you know, frankly, there's very little we can do than just sort of put a wet finger in the air, compute some carbon offset and plant some trees. I think these are good building blocks; they're not necessarily the best ways to solve this problem, ultimately. But one of the things I care deeply about and you know, my company cares a lot about is helping make developers more aware off what kind of carbon footprint their code tangibly has on the environment. And so we've started two things inside the company. We've started a foundation that we call the Carbon Conscious Computing Consortium—the four C's. We're going to announce that publicly next year, we're going to invite folks to come and join us and be a part of it.The second thing that we're doing is we're building a completely open-source, carbon-conscious computing platform that is built on real data that we're collecting about, to start with, how Macrometa's platform emits carbon in response to different types of things you build on it. So for example, you wrote a query that hits our database and queries, you know, I don't know, 20 billion objects inside of our database. It'll tell you exactly how many micrograms or how many milligrams of carbon—it's an estimate; not exactly. I got to learn to throttle myself down. It's an estimate, you know, you can't really measure these things exactly because the cost of carbon is different in different places, you know, there are different technologies, et cetera.Gives you a good decent estimate, something that reliably tells you, “Hey, you know that query that you have over there, that piece of SQL? That's probably going to do this much of micrograms of carbon at this scale.” You know, if this query was called a million times every hour, this is how much it costs. A million times a day, this is how much it costs and things like that. But the most important thing that I feel passionate about is that when we give developers visibility, they do good things.I mean, when we give them good debugging tools, the code gets better, the code gets faster, the code gets more efficient. And Corey, you're in the business of helping people save money, when we give them good visibility into how much their code costs to run, they make the code more efficient. So we're doing the same thing with carbon, we know there's a cost to run your code, whether it's a function, a container, a query, what have you, every operation has a carbon cost. And we're on a mission to measure that and provide accurate tooling directly in our platform so that along with your debug lines, right, where you've got all these print statements that are spitting up stuff about what's happening there, we can also print out, you know, what did it cost in carbon.And you can set budgets. You can basically say, “Hey, I want my application to consume this much of carbon.” And down the road, we'll have AI and ML models that will help us optimize your code to be able to fit within those carbon budgets. For example. I'm not a big fan of planting—you know, I love planting trees, but don't get me wrong, we live in California and those trees get burned down.And I was reading this heartbreaking story about how we returned back into the atmosphere a giant amount of carbon because the forest reserve that had been planted, you know, that was capturing carbon, you know, essentially got burned down in a forest fire. So, you know, we're trying to just basically say, let's try and reduce the amount of carbon, you know, that we can potentially create by having better tooling.Corey: That would be amazing, and I think it also requires something that I guess acts almost as an exchange where there's a centralized voice that can make sure that, well, one, the provider is being honest, and two, being able to ensure you're doing an apples-to-apples comparison and not just discounting a whole lot of negative externalities. Because, yes, we're talking about carbon released into the environment. Okay, great. What about water effects from what's happening with your data centers are located? That can have significant climate impact as well. It's about trying to avoid the picking and choosing. It's hard, hard problem, but I'm unconvinced that there's anything more critical in the entire ecosystem right now to worry about.Chetan: So as a startup, we care very deeply about starting with the carbon part. And I agree, Corey, it's a multi-dimensional problem; there's lots of tentacles. The hydrocarbon industry goes very deeply into all parts of our lives. I'm a startup, what do I know? I can't solve all of those things, but I wanted to start with the philosophy that if we provide developers with the right tooling, they'll have the right incentives then to write better code. And as we open-source more of what we learn and, you know, our tooling, others will do the same. And I think in ten years, we might have better answers. But someone's got to start somewhere, and this is where we'd like to start.Corey: I really want to thank you for taking as much time as you have for going through what you're up to and how you view the world. If people want to learn more, where's the best place to find you?Chetan: Yes, so two things on that front. Go to www.macrometa.com—M-A-C-R-O-M-E-T-A dot com—and that's our website. And you can come and experience the full power of the platform. We've got a playground where you can come, open an account and build anything you want for free, and you can try and learn. You just can't run it in production because we've got a giant network, as I said, of 175 cities around the world. But there are tiers available for you to purchase and build and run apps. Like I think about 80 different customers, some of the biggest ones in the world, some of the biggest telecom customers, retail, E-Tail customers, [unintelligible 00:34:28] tiny startups are building some interesting things on.And the second thing I want to talk about is November 7th through 11th of 2022, just a couple of weeks—or maybe by the time this recording comes out, a week from now—is developer week at Macrometa. And we're going to be announcing some really interesting new capabilities, some new features like real-time complex event processing with low, ultra-low latency, data connectors, a search feature that allows you to build search directly on top of your applications without needing to spin up a giant Elastic Cloud Search cluster, or providing search locally and regionally so that, you know, you can have search running in 25 cities that are instant to search rather than sending all your search requests back in one location. There's all kinds of very cool things happening over there.And we're also announcing a partnership with the original, the OG of the edge, one of the largest, most impressive, interesting CDN players that has become a partner for us as well. And then we're also announcing some very interesting experimental work where you as a developer can build apps directly on the 5G telecom cloud as well. And then you'll hear from some interesting companies that are building apps that are edge-native, that are impossible to build in the cloud because they take advantage of these three things that we talked about: geography, latency, and data protection in some very, very powerful ways. So you'll hear actual customer case studies from real customers in the flesh, not anonymous BS, no marchitecture. It's a week-long of technical talk by developers, for developers. And so, you know, come and join the fun and let's learn all about the edge together, and let's go build something together that's impossible to do today.Corey: And we will, of course, put links to that in the [show notes 00:36:06]. Thank you so much for being so generous with your time. I appreciate it.Chetan: My pleasure, Corey. Like I said, you're one of my heroes. I've always loved your work. The Snark-as-a-Service is a trillion-dollar market cap company. If you're ever interested in taking that public, I know some investors that I'd happily put you in touch with. But—Corey: Sadly, so many of those investors lack senses of humor.Chetan: [laugh]. That is true. That is true [laugh].Corey: [laugh]. [sigh].Chetan: Well, thank you. Thanks again for having me.Corey: Thank you. Chetan Venkatesh, CEO and co-founder at Macrometa. I'm Cloud Economist Corey Quinn and this is Screaming in the Cloud. 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