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Marcie, Staci and host Y. M. Nelson continue their discussion of Star Trek Section 31. They analyze other characters, talk about the show's future, and give this one a Goodreads rating.This action-packed movie follows Emperor Georgiou as she joins the secretive Section 31, a covert division tasked with doing Starfleet's "dirty work"—all while facing the ghosts of her past. But does it merit a series or even a sequel?We discuss:

It's time for a Star Trek movie event! In this episode of The Prime Subjective, Chris Newcomer, Karie Coelman Hinners and Michael Henley take a break from the end of Lower Decks to discuss Section 31, the new Paramount Plus original Star Trek movie starring Michelle Yeoh. In this episode we discuss this would-be TV series turned into a movie...featuring Emperor Georgiou, Quasi, Zeph...and Rachel Garrett? It's not quite a TV pilot, not quite a feature film, but it is definitely a fun discussion regarding this divisive latest entry in the Trek family. The post Star Trek: Section 31 appeared first on Crossroads Comedy Theater.

When Emperor Georgiou's backstory doesn't make her any more redeemable, getting pulled into a Section 31 mission gives her another chance to do the right thing. But when their assignment reveals a relic from her own destructive past, gruesomely killing her childhood boyfriend doesn't exactly earn her atonement. Was there a code name for this movie during production? What are the mirror universe Borgs like? Why don't strippers die when they jump off bridges? It's the episode that just needed its heart to grow two sizes this day.Support the production of Greatest TrekGet a thing at podshop.biz!Sign up for our mailing list!Greatest Trek is produced by Wynde PriddySocial media is managed by Rob Adler and Bill TilleyMusic by Adam RaguseaFriends of DeSoto for: Labor | Democracy | JusticeDiscuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestTrek and find us on social media:YouTube | Facebook | X | Instagram | TikTok | Mastodon | Bluesky | ThreadsAnd check out these online communities run by FODs: Reddit | USS Hood Discord | Facebook group | Wikia | FriendsOfDeSoto.social

Hosts Cam Smith and Tyler Orton engage in a little mecha-boom-boom while reviewing the new Paramount+ film Star Trek: Section 31. From Michelle Yeoh's much-hyped return as Emperor Georgiou, to the film's place within cinematic Trek canon and the franchise's streaming movie future, the duo weigh in.   Join our Facebook page for exclusive content such as videos and bonus episodes. And you can also visit our blog, or follow us on Twitter and YouTube! Send any other questions, topic ideas or feedback to subspacetransmissionspod@gmail.com! Related Podcast Episodes: Discovery: "Terra Firma, Part 1" Discovery: "Terra Firma, Part 2" Section 31: The Spy Who Phased Me   Join us next week as we revisit the classic DS9 episode Who Mourns for Morn?

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Anika and Liz stumble through a series of alternate universes, including the one where we like "A Tribble Called Quest" and the one where we're good at podcasting and don't go off on long tangents about shipping. (That's a lie. That universe doesn't exist.) Liz has a hot take: she does not like "A Tribble Called Quest" and thinks it has an accidental forced-birth subtext The three Dad Genders: Girl Dad, Boy Dad, Scientist Dad Maybe we need to stop making tribble episodes MOVING ON TO THE EPISODE WE ACTUALLY LIKED The Jellico In Command Timeline Okona and Chakotay: the deadbeat dad and the dad who stepped up Did Captain Tuvix murder Janeway?  Who would win in a fight between Mirror Janeway and Emperor Georgiou?  Chakotay, formerly Hot Chakotay, is at his least attractive ever when he's reunited with Janeway, and that serves a purpose!  The best-known Evil Overlord list, as reproduced on TV Tropes The Antimatter Pod Shipping News!  Mirror Janeway and the search across the multiverse for the Chakotay with the brain cell Chakotay/Holo Janeway Zero/Maj'el Dal/Gwyn and the parallels with Janeway/Chakotay

All Good Things A Star Trek Universe Podcast Episode 127: Mirror Reflections Pt 4: DSC Terra Firma Kelvin, Amy and Mark discuss Star Trek Discovery Terra Firma. After being brought to the prime timeline, Emperor Georgiou is inflicted with a fatal timeline condition and is brought to Dannus IV where she meets Carl, The Guardian of Forever.  Join our listeners group The BQN Collective on Facebook. Follow the network on Instagram @BQNPodcasts Find us on Twitter: The Network: @BQNpodcasts The Show: @AllGoodPod Amy: @MissAmyNelson Mark: @MarkWhite207 Christos: @GreekgeekSD  Kelvin: @KelvinsTimeline  BQN Podcasts are brought to you by listeners like you. Special thanks to these patrons on Patreon whose generous contributions help produce the podcast!  Tim Cooper Anonymous Mahendran Radhakrishnan David Willett Peter Hong Tom Van Scotter Vera Bible Jim McMahon Greg Molumby Thad Hait Chrissie De Clerck-Szilagyi Joe Mignone Carl Wonders Matt Harker Jason Anderson Lars Di Scenza Susan Capuzzi-De Clerck David (no last name provided) Steven Russell You can become a part of the Hive Mind Collective here: https://www.Patreon.com/BQN We'd love to add your uniqueness to our own! Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. STAR TREK and all related marks, logos and characters are owned by CBS Studios Inc. “BQN” is not endorsed or sponsored by or affiliated with CBS/Paramount Pictures or the STAR TREK franchise.

Kelvin, Amy and Mark discuss Star Trek Discovery Terra Firma. After being brought to the prime timeline, Emperor Georgiou is inflicted with a fatal timeline condition and is brought to Dannus IV where she meets Carl, The Guardian of Forever. Join our listeners group The BQN Collective on Facebook.Follow the network on Instagram @BQNPodcastsFind us on Twitter:The Network: @BQNpodcastsThe Show: @AllGoodPodAmy: @MissAmyNelsonMark: @MarkWhite207Christos: @GreekgeekSD Kelvin: @KelvinsTimeline BQN Podcasts are brought to you by listeners like you. Special thanks to these patrons on Patreon whose generous contributions help produce the podcast! Tim CooperAnonymousMahendran RadhakrishnanDavid WillettPeter HongTom Van ScotterVera BibleJim McMahonGreg MolumbyThad HaitChrissie De Clerck-SzilagyiJoe MignoneCarl WondersMatt HarkerJason AndersonLars Di ScenzaSusan Capuzzi-De ClerckDavid (no last name provided)Steven RussellYou can become a part of the Hive Mind Collective here: https://www.Patreon.com/BQN We'd love to add your uniqueness to our own!Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. STAR TREK and all related marks, logos and characters are owned by CBS Studios Inc. “BQN” is not endorsed or sponsored by or affiliated with CBS/Paramount Pictures or the STAR TREK franchise.

We are in the thick of it with episode 12. So much is revealed in this episode, and a bombshell is dropped on Michael. Burnham heads to the ISS Charon with a special "gift" for Emperor Georgiou. Back on board the Discovery, Stamets gains clarity while trapped inside the mycelial network with his Terran counterpart, and Saru asks for L'Rell's help to deal with Tyler. Listen in as we discuss! Support this podcast with a small monthly donation to help sustain future episodes. Follow Us: Andrea: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Patreon | Amazon Moneca: Instagram | LinkedIn --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/trekkieandbeyond/support

Episode 6: Villains DSC: Master of Manipulation Is Lorca ruled by destiny? How do her subjects view Emperor Georgiou? Why didn't Georgiou go full Terran in the Prime Universe? Was Michael's mom working for Section 31? How do you break The Chain? Join Ashlyn and Rhianna as they get into the heads of the best Villains of Star Trek: Discovery. SPOILER ALERT: All of Discovery & Picard TRIGGER WARNINGS: Rape, abuse, and slavery. This is the sixth episode of our Villain series, where Ashlyn and Rhianna dive into the greatest Star Trek villains starting with The Original Series and ending with Lower Decks. Is the Tal Shiar worse than the Borg? Join us in two weeks as we pick apart what makes a villain in our Picard episode to find out! DISCLAIMER: We do not own any of the rights to Star Trek or its affiliations. This content is for review only. Our intro, “Klingon Battle” was written by Jerry Goldsmith. Our outro, “Worf's Revenge” was written by Aurelio Voltaire. Rule of Acquisition #2: “Money is everything.” Please check out our Patreon and donate any amount per month to access exclusive episodes of trivia and reviews of every episode from the first season of Lower Decks and our current review of The Animated Series. https://www.patreon.com/thedurassisterspodcast

The drama of Discovery's first season reaches its penultimate moment. Jimmy, Dom, and Fr. Cory discuss the attempt to show the Federation's goodness in contrast to the Empire's evil as well as the first hints that Emperor Georgiou is more than just an evil warlord. The post What’s Past is Prologue (DIS) appeared first on SQPN.com.

The drama of Discovery's first season reaches its penultimate moment. Jimmy, Dom, and Fr. Cory discuss the attempt to show the Federation's goodness in contrast to the Empire's evil as well as the first hints that Emperor Georgiou is more than just an evil warlord.

Tony and Laurie start analyzing the latest news including Kate Mulgrew revealing setup for Star Trek: Prodigy, writers wrapping work on season 4 of Star Trek: Discovery, and Tig Notaro talking about being back on set as Jett Reno. We also have some merchandise updates on Star Trek books, comics, games, and home video. We then discuss science advisor Dr. Erin McDonald’s new official Star Trek podcast interview and how she mentions working on six Trek shows along with Shazad Latif talking about “rumblings” for the long-in-development Section 31 show as jumping-off points for some speculating on what to do with Michelle Yeoh’s Emperor Georgiou. We consider Georgiou heading up her own series and other possible options including feature films, mini-series, and guest spots on other Trek shows. Beyond Section 31 we also ponder some other show premises for her Georgiou we might prefer to see her in.

Tony and Laurie start analyzing the latest news including Kate Mulgrew revealing setup for Star Trek: Prodigy, writers wrapping work on season 4 of Star Trek: Discovery, and Tig Notaro talking about being back on set as Jett Reno. We also have some merchandise updates on Star Trek books, comics, games, and home video. We then discuss science advisor Dr. Erin McDonald’s new official Star Trek podcast interview and how she mentions working on six Trek shows along with Shazad Latif talking about “rumblings” for the long-in-development Section 31 show as jumping-off points for some speculating on what to do with Michelle Yeoh’s Emperor Georgiou. We consider Georgiou heading up her own series and other possible options including feature films, mini-series, and guest spots on other Trek shows. Beyond Section 31 we also ponder some other show premises for her Georgiou we might prefer to see her in.

In this first season episode, we get our first glimpse of Emperor Georgiou. Jimmy, Dom, and Fr. Cory discuss how this character changed the show, the shocking evil of the Terran Empire, and the big reveal about Lorca.

In this first season episode, we get our first glimpse of Emperor Georgiou. Jimmy, Dom, and Fr. Cory discuss how this character changed the show, the shocking evil of the Terran Empire, and the big reveal about Lorca. The post Vaulting Ambition (DIS) appeared first on SQPN.com.

Michelle Yeoh thinks that Star Trek producers have “more things in store” for Emperor Georgiou; Star Trek: Lower Decks co-executive producer Chris Kula signs an overall production deal with CBS Studios; and the answer to Tuesday's trivia question. Today's show is sponsored by EveryPlate. Try EveryPlate for just $1.99 per meal plus an additional 20% off your next 2 boxes by going to EveryPlate.com and entering code dstn199. Support Daily Star Trek News on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dailystartreknews Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Google Podcasts For more great Star Trek podcasts: https://podcasts.roddenberry.com Website: https://www.dailystartreknews.com Email: info@dailystartreknews.com Twitter and Instagram: @dailytreknews

Tony and Laurie start with the latest Star Trek news including John de Lancie revealing more about Picard season 2, LeVar Burton confirming he won’t be in season 2 (but maybe season 3), a COVID contact temporary production shutdown of Discovery season 4, and Michelle Yeoh talking about the possible return of Emperor Georgiou. We also get an update on the In Search of Tomorrow documentary all about 1980s sci-fi cinema, including a clip from Walter Koenig. The main focus of the podcast turns to our interview with Star Trek composer Jeff Russo. We talk about the new Star Trek: Discovery season 3 soundtrack and how he changed things up for the show’s big jump into the future. He also takes us behind the scenes on recording during a pandemic, as well as some talk about early plans for Discovery season 4 (and Picard season 2). Russo also gives us some insight into the (currently paused) Noah Hawley Star Trek movie which he had started writing music for last year.

Tony and Laurie start with the latest Star Trek news including John de Lancie revealing more about Picard season 2, LeVar Burton confirming he won’t be in season 2 (but maybe season 3), a COVID contact temporary production shutdown of Discovery season 4, and Michelle Yeoh talking about the possible return of Emperor Georgiou. We also get an update on the In Search of Tomorrow documentary all about 1980s sci-fi cinema, including a clip from Walter Koenig. The main focus of the podcast turns to our interview with Star Trek composer Jeff Russo. We talk about the new Star Trek: Discovery season 3 soundtrack and how he changed things up for the show’s big jump into the future. He also takes us behind the scenes on recording during a pandemic, as well as some talk about early plans for Discovery season 4 (and Picard season 2). Russo also gives us some insight into the (currently paused) Noah Hawley Star Trek movie which he had started writing music for last year.

Michelle Yeoh thinks that Star Trek producers have “more things in store” for Emperor Georgiou; Star Trek: Lower Decks co-executive producer Chris Kula signs an overall production deal with CBS Studios; and the answer to Tuesday’s trivia question. Today’s show is sponsored by EveryPlate. Try EveryPlate for just $1.99 per meal plus an additional 20% off your next 2 boxes by going to EveryPlate.com and entering code dstn199. Support Daily Star Trek News on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dailystartreknews Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Google Podcasts For more great Star Trek podcasts: https://podcasts.roddenberry.com Website: https://www.dailystartreknews.com Email: info@dailystartreknews.com Twitter and Instagram: @dailytreknews

The Discovery crew returns!  We discuss saying goodbye to our favorite sociopathic Empress, the search for Saru's catch phrase, and process how we are feeling about Star Trek returning to a potential episodic television series as opposed to an arc based series.  It's a shift, for sure...but after two strong storytelling seasons it is a bit discombobulating for us.  Great performances still remain, however, and we will be here for the long haul.    Like what you hear? Subscribe so you don't miss an episode!   Follow us on Twitter: @TheMTRNetwork Our shirts are now on TeePublic:  https://teepublic.com/stores/mtr-network   Want more podcast greatness? Sign up for a MTR Premium Account!

The Discovery crew returns!  We discuss saying goodbye to our favorite sociopathic Empress, the search for Saru's catch phrase, and process how we are feeling about Star Trek returning to a potential episodic television series as opposed to an arc based series.  It's a shift, for sure...but after two strong storytelling seasons it is a bit discombobulating for us.  Great performances still remain, however, and we will be here for the long haul.    Like what you hear? Subscribe so you don't miss an episode!   Follow us on Twitter: @TheMTRNetwork Our shirts are now on TeePublic:  https://teepublic.com/stores/mtr-network   Want more podcast greatness? Sign up for a MTR Premium Account!

Ruthie & Brian talk through S3E11 of Star Trek: Discovery, titled Su'Kal. Discovery finds the source of The Burn, and Osyraa finds them.

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 3 Episode 11 – Su’Kal We’re back!!! Ruthie and Brian talk through Star Trek: Discovery, Season 3 Episode 11, titled Su’Kal. This episode was written by Anne Cofell Saunders, and it was directed by Norma Bailey. For the final four episodes, we are switching to a Saturday morning recording schedule due to the holiday season. Because of that, we are extending the deadlines to Saturday morning. Keep this in mind, especially for you European listeners. You have an extra 11 hours to get in your feedback to us! That may mean that the episodes may come out later than normal as well. Unfortunately, if I can’t get the episode’s editing completed by Sunday night, most weeks, it turns into a several night thing. SPOILERS AHEAD!!! If you haven’t seen this episode of Star Trek: Discovery, stop right now!!! Go watch it, then come back!!! We’ll be here for you! Chapters 00:00:00 STDP 058 – Su’Kal (Star Trek: Discovery S3E11)00:00:17 Intro00:01:08 Feedback for Previous Episodes00:18:22 About Su’Kal00:19:57 Ratings00:24:47 Yeses00:47:10 Nos01:16:47 Hold Your Horses01:35:59 Listener Feedback02:07:55 Our Notes02:11:41 Shipwide Announcements02:24:04 Wrap Up Subscribe to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to catch our Discovery episodes! Make sure you have subscribed to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to get these episodes when they come unless you listen to us on the All-Inclusive feed, or on YouTube. Next, we will be discussing Season 3 Episode 12 of Star Trek: Discovery titled There Is A Tide… (formerly believed to be The Good of the People). The deadline for the rest of the season will be Saturday, 6 AM Eastern/5 AM Central. Check the Facebook group for any updates. Your feedback is SO important to us!!! Links to us… Want to participate? Join our Facebook group! And follow us on Twitter! And don’t forget to subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts! While you do, we’d appreciate it if you can leave us a review, hopefully, a 5-star! Or, if not, a rating will do!!! You can do the same on Podchaser. You can leave us a review on several different platforms here. Also, you can leave us a review on the Talk Through Media Facebook page. And don’t forget to sign up for our Patreon to get access to our Patreon episodes. Sign up to CBS All Access! Help support the podcast! If you sign up from this link, you’ll help support the podcast, as CBS gives us a small referral fee, and it costs you nothing! Star Trek: Discovery is now streaming on CBS All Access! Click this banner to sign up, and you’ll help support the podcast! Speaking of our Patreon… We have released our eighth Patreon calls so far. We were hoping to schedule a Patreon this weekend, but we were unable to due to the power outage. If you want to listen to it when it comes out, sign up to our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/brianandruthie for as little as $1/month and you’ll get access! Become a Patron! Watch this episode on YouTube!

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 3 Episode 11 – Su’Kal We’re back!!! Ruthie and Brian talk through Star Trek: Discovery, Season 3 Episode 11, titled Su’Kal. This episode was written by Anne Cofell Saunders, and it was directed by Norma Bailey. For the final four episodes, we are switching to a Saturday morning recording schedule due to the holiday season. Because of that, we are extending the deadlines to Saturday morning. Keep this in mind, especially for you European listeners. You have an extra 11 hours to get in your feedback to us! That may mean that the episodes may come out later than normal as well. Unfortunately, if I can’t get the episode’s editing completed by Sunday night, most weeks, it turns into a several night thing. SPOILERS AHEAD!!! If you haven’t seen this episode of Star Trek: Discovery, stop right now!!! Go watch it, then come back!!! We’ll be here for you! Chapters 00:00:00 STDP 058 – Su’Kal (Star Trek: Discovery S3E11)00:00:17 Intro00:01:08 Feedback for Previous Episodes00:18:22 About Su’Kal00:19:57 Ratings00:24:47 Yeses00:47:10 Nos01:16:47 Hold Your Horses01:35:59 Listener Feedback02:07:55 Our Notes02:11:41 Shipwide Announcements02:24:04 Wrap Up Subscribe to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to catch our Discovery episodes! Make sure you have subscribed to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to get these episodes when they come unless you listen to us on the All-Inclusive feed, or on YouTube. Next, we will be discussing Season 3 Episode 12 of Star Trek: Discovery titled There Is A Tide… (formerly believed to be The Good of the People). The deadline for the rest of the season will be Saturday, 6 AM Eastern/5 AM Central. Check the Facebook group for any updates. Your feedback is SO important to us!!! Links to us… Want to participate? Join our Facebook group! And follow us on Twitter! And don’t forget to subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts! While you do, we’d appreciate it if you can leave us a review, hopefully, a 5-star! Or, if not, a rating will do!!! You can do the same on Podchaser. You can leave us a review on several different platforms here. Also, you can leave us a review on the Talk Through Media Facebook page. And don’t forget to sign up for our Patreon to get access to our Patreon episodes. Sign up to CBS All Access! Help support the podcast! If you sign up from this link, you’ll help support the podcast, as CBS gives us a small referral fee, and it costs you nothing! Star Trek: Discovery is now streaming on CBS All Access! Click this banner to sign up, and you’ll help support the podcast! Speaking of our Patreon… We have released our eighth Patreon calls so far. We were hoping to schedule a Patreon this weekend, but we were unable to due to the power outage. If you want to listen to it when it comes out, sign up to our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/brianandruthie for as little as $1/month and you’ll get access! Become a Patron! Watch this episode on YouTube!

Ruthie & Brian talk through S3E11 of Star Trek: Discovery, titled Su'Kal. Discovery finds the source of The Burn, and Osyraa finds them.

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 3 Episode 10 – Terra Firma, Part 2 We’re back!!! Ruthie and Brian talk through Star Trek: Discovery, Season 3 Episode 10, titled Terra Firma, Part 2. This episode’s teleplay was written by Kalinda Vazquez, with the story by Bo Yeon Kim & Erika Lippoldt & Alan McElroy, and it was directed by Chloe Domont. For the final four episodes, we are switching to a Saturday morning recording schedule due to the holiday season. Because of that, we are extending the deadlines to Saturday morning. Keep this in mind, especially for you European listeners. You have an extra 11 hours to get in your feedback to us! That may mean that the episodes may come out later than normal as well. Unfortunately, if I can’t get the episode’s editing completed by Sunday night, most weeks, it turns into a several night thing. SPOILERS AHEAD!!! If you haven’t seen this episode of Star Trek: Discovery, stop right now!!! Go watch it, then come back!!! We’ll be here for you! Chapters 00:00:00 STDP 057 – Terra Firma, Part 2 (Star Trek: Discovery S3E10)00:00:17 Intro00:01:13 Feedback from Previous Episodes00:20:14 About Terra Firma, Part 200:22:29 Ratings00:27:51 Yeses01:03:17 Nos01:23:33 Hold Your Horses01:37:13 Listener Feedback02:01:57 Our Notes02:05:34 Shipwide Announcements02:14:12 Wrap Up Subscribe to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to catch our Discovery episodes! Make sure you have subscribed to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to get these episodes when they come unless you listen to us on the All-Inclusive feed, or on YouTube. Next, we will be discussing Season 3 Episode 11 of Star Trek: Discovery titled Su’Kal (formerly believed to be titled The Citadel). The deadline for the rest of the season will be Saturday, 6 AM Eastern/5 AM Central due to the holiday season. Check the Facebook group for any updates. Your feedback is SO important to us!!! Don’t forget! If you have been listening to us on the Star Trek Picard Cast feed, subscribe to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast to get the Discovery episodes. If you’re listening to us on the Talk Through Media All-Inclusive Feed, there’s nothing for you to do. Links to us… Want to participate? Join our Facebook group! And follow us on Twitter! And don’t forget to subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts! While you do, we’d appreciate it if you can leave us a review, hopefully, a 5-star! Or, if not, a rating will do!!! You can do the same on Podchaser. You can leave us a review on several different platforms here. Also, you can leave us a review on the Talk Through Media Facebook page. And don’t forget to sign up for our Patreon to get access to our Patreon episodes. Sign up to CBS All Access! Help support the podcast! If you sign up from this link, you’ll help support the podcast, as CBS gives us a small referral fee, and it costs you nothing! Star Trek: Discovery is now streaming on CBS All Access! Click this banner to sign up, and you’ll help support the podcast! Speaking of our Patreon… We have released our eighth Patreon calls so far. We were hoping to schedule a Patreon this weekend, but we were unable to due to the power outage. If you want to listen to it when it comes out, sign up to our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/brianandruthie for as little as $1/month and you’ll get access! Become a Patron! Watch this episode on YouTube!

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 3 Episode 10 – Terra Firma, Part 2 We’re back!!! Ruthie and Brian talk through Star Trek: Discovery, Season 3 Episode 10, titled Terra Firma, Part 2. This episode’s teleplay was written by Kalinda Vazquez, with the story by Bo Yeon Kim & Erika Lippoldt & Alan McElroy, and it was directed by Chloe Domont. For the final four episodes, we are switching to a Saturday morning recording schedule due to the holiday season. Because of that, we are extending the deadlines to Saturday morning. Keep this in mind, especially for you European listeners. You have an extra 11 hours to get in your feedback to us! That may mean that the episodes may come out later than normal as well. Unfortunately, if I can’t get the episode’s editing completed by Sunday night, most weeks, it turns into a several night thing. SPOILERS AHEAD!!! If you haven’t seen this episode of Star Trek: Discovery, stop right now!!! Go watch it, then come back!!! We’ll be here for you! Chapters 00:00:00 STDP 057 – Terra Firma, Part 2 (Star Trek: Discovery S3E10)00:00:17 Intro00:01:13 Feedback from Previous Episodes00:20:14 About Terra Firma, Part 200:22:29 Ratings00:27:51 Yeses01:03:17 Nos01:23:33 Hold Your Horses01:37:13 Listener Feedback02:01:57 Our Notes02:05:34 Shipwide Announcements02:14:12 Wrap Up Subscribe to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to catch our Discovery episodes! Make sure you have subscribed to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to get these episodes when they come unless you listen to us on the All-Inclusive feed, or on YouTube. Next, we will be discussing Season 3 Episode 11 of Star Trek: Discovery titled Su’Kal (formerly believed to be titled The Citadel). The deadline for the rest of the season will be Saturday, 6 AM Eastern/5 AM Central due to the holiday season. Check the Facebook group for any updates. Your feedback is SO important to us!!! Don’t forget! If you have been listening to us on the Star Trek Picard Cast feed, subscribe to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast to get the Discovery episodes. If you’re listening to us on the Talk Through Media All-Inclusive Feed, there’s nothing for you to do. Links to us… Want to participate? Join our Facebook group! And follow us on Twitter! And don’t forget to subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts! While you do, we’d appreciate it if you can leave us a review, hopefully, a 5-star! Or, if not, a rating will do!!! You can do the same on Podchaser. You can leave us a review on several different platforms here. Also, you can leave us a review on the Talk Through Media Facebook page. And don’t forget to sign up for our Patreon to get access to our Patreon episodes. Sign up to CBS All Access! Help support the podcast! If you sign up from this link, you’ll help support the podcast, as CBS gives us a small referral fee, and it costs you nothing! Star Trek: Discovery is now streaming on CBS All Access! Click this banner to sign up, and you’ll help support the podcast! Speaking of our Patreon… We have released our eighth Patreon calls so far. We were hoping to schedule a Patreon this weekend, but we were unable to due to the power outage. If you want to listen to it when it comes out, sign up to our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/brianandruthie for as little as $1/month and you’ll get access! Become a Patron! Watch this episode on YouTube!

Ruthie and Brian talk through S3E10 of Star Trek: Discovery, titled Terra Firma, Part 2. Georgiou is back in the Mirror Universe but determined to rule things differently than before, trying to get Mirror Burnham back in the fold, saving herself in the process.

Ruthie and Brian talk through S3E10 of Star Trek: Discovery, titled Terra Firma, Part 2. Georgiou is back in the Mirror Universe but determined to rule things differently than before, trying to get Mirror Burnham back in the fold, saving herself in the process.

Emperor Georgiou’s attempt to change the Terran Empire and Michael Burnham concludes with betrayal, coup attempts, and lessons for all.

Season 3, Episode 10. Still in the mirror universe!Thus, *Emperor* Georgiou races against the clock to change the disastrous events that destroyed her empire before. A blood-thirsty Michael is hard to tame; a blood-thirsty Tilly/Killy is up to the challenge. You know what? Everyone is thirsty for blood, I guess. But I’m sure it will all work out just fine in the end....Join us on Facebook Fridays at 8pm EST to watch the pod live and join in! 

Today we discuss the conclusion to "Terra Firma Part 2" in Star Trek Discovery Season 3. We see the culmination of Georgiou's character arc, which I felt was nicely done. This two-parter has definitely change the way I see Mirror Georgiou and I'm loving it. So let's dig in and see what we can find to talk about in this episode. ----more---- Transcript Welcome to Nerd Heaven I’m Adam David Collings, the author of Jewel of The Stars And I am a nerd   This is episode 47 of the podcast. Today, we’re talking about Star Trek Discovery “Terra Firma Part 2”   And big news. It’s just been announced that Star Trek Lower Decks has an international distribution deal. It’ll be arriving on Amazon Prime in the U.K., Europe, Australia, New Zealand,  Japan, India, and more on the 22nd of January.   This has been a long time coming, but we’re finally going to be able to see it. Of course, at this point, I’ve pretty much had the entire first season spoiled for me, because, you know….I have access to the internet. Still, it’s good news.   So let’s talk about Terra Firma Part 2.   The description on memory alpha reads Georgiou uncovers the true depths of the plot against her, leading her to a revelation about how deeply her time on the USS Discovery truly changed her.   The teleplay for this episode was written by Kalinda Vazquez Based on a story by Bo Yeon Kim & Erika Lippoldt & Alan McElroy It was directed by Chloe Domont​ And it first aired on the 17th of December 2020.   Make it so. We pick up where we left off, in the mirror universe, onboard the ISS Discovery. We won’t see our prime characters until this whole thing with Georgiou is over.   .Michael is dragged kicking and screaming into the brig. Begging to be killed. That’s the honourable way out for a failed traitor. The Terran empire have a lot in common with the Klingons when you think about it. And that’s nothing new.   Michael says “every moment you keep me alive proves further how weak you’ve become. We learn the reason Lorca moved against her, the reason he got to Michael is because Mirror Georgiou was already being considered weak. She was losing her harsh edge, even before she met prime Michael. It turns out half of her biography opera was a lie. One thing I forgot to mention last week was how the story portrayed Georgiou as a peasant who rose up the ranks to emperor. I wonder if this part was true or false. This is a fascinating insight into her backstory, and while it may be a little bit of a retcon, it helps to make sense of the arc the character has been on.   Now that she's back in the mirror universe, Georgiou is learning just how much she’s changed. And Micahel is noticing. Rescuing Kelpiens, fretting over artists.   Interestingly, Gorgeous is starting to see what mirror Spock ultimately saw, with a little help from prime Kirk. The Terran Empire is not sustainable. They can’t go on like they are forever. Its downfall is inevitable. She tries to explain this to Michael.   Georgiou is only holding on to her power, at present, because of the loyalty of those who still serve her, like Owo and Killy. But how long will she be able to hold on to their loyalty if she really pursues peace?   Michael mentions an alliance is forming against them. This is the coalition we saw in season 1. Vulcans, Klingons, Andorians, Tellarite. Michael mentions a bunch of other races including the Denobulans, which was cool.   I have to assume the coalition of this time will eventually morph into the alliance that we saw in the mirror universe during Deep Space Nine. At that time, the empire had fallen and the alliance ruled the galaxy with almost as strong a fist as their predecessors. The main powers behind the alliance were the Klingons and the Cardassians.   The first thing Killy asks when she has a minute alone with Georgiou is “Why is Michael Burnham still taking up oxygen on my ship?” Killy already has her doubts about the emperor. Could Michael be right? Is Georgiou weak? I’m sure Killy has seen it. She knows Georgiou has changed. The only question she needs to wrestle with now is “what do I do about it?” Which option will best serve Captain Killy? She remains loyal, and I don’t think it’s because of anything Georgiou says here about trying to reforge a broken michael into a loyal subject. It’s because Killy doesn’t currently have the resources she needs to lead a revolution of her own. Terrans don’t really care about loyalty. They look out for number one. And she still thinks it’s in her best interest to support Georgiou.   I also think she is genuinely enamoured with the idea of being given the job of breaking Micahel. That sounds like a fun challenge to her. One she will embrace. Apparently, there is no greater interrogator than Killy. And that scares the hell out of me.   And then we get mirror universe opening credits. Just like Enterprise did with In a Mirror Darkly. Though they’re not as changed as what Enterprise did. The inverted colours work for me. The upside-down imagery not so much. I don’t really get that.  Had it been me, I’d have changed the starfleet logos to Terran empire logos. That kind of thing. But that would have taken a lot more work than just turning everything upside down.   Michael is pretty confident they won’t break her. At least, that’s what she says. I imagine that Terrans have a higher tolerance for pain than we do. I understand it was a little bit like that in the middle ages. When pain is a normal part of life, it’s not pleasant, but it’s accepted more readily. At least, so I’m told.   Killy’s interrogation doesn’t last long. She asks Michael to pledge her loyalty. Then zaps her with the agoniser booth. And then says “we’ll try again tomorrow. You don’t mind sleeping in there do you?” And this is pretty horrifying. She’s left in the booth all night. And every now and then, when she’s least expecting it, it will fire up and put her into incredible pain.   The agnoiser technology itself is horrific. The human body eventually shuts down to protect itself from pain, but this technology is designed to circumvent that, so the victim continues to feel the agony. So Detmer comes to see Michael. They all know these two were working together. Detmer tries to convince her to give in, because she won’t be able to cope with uch more. Plus, nobody has heard from Lorca. Which means he has abandoned Michael. There is no sense remaining loyal to him. And all of this makes a lot of sense. Lorca knows his rebellion is beaten. He can’t do it without Michael. That’s why he went through so many hoops to bring prime michael into the mirror universe. This also means they don’t have to bring Jason Isaacs back again. Which is a shame.   It also makes sense that Michael gives into Georgiou at this point. IF she is being offered a chance to redeem herself she’d be stupid and stubborn not to take it.   Then there’s a rather sweet scene as Georgiou shares a memory of walking with Michael through her night terrors to see the fireflies. She leaves a jar of fireflies on Michael's bed. And we get the impression that Georgiou is finally getting through to Michael.   And I think she actually is.   It’s obvious that Georgiou loves Michael as a daughter, and always did. And so she presents herself. I’m ready to pledge my loyalty to you.   But there’s a question here we’re all asking. Is she genuine, or is this all just part of Michael’s plan?   Michael goes and kills all her co-conspirators. (at least, those who are nearby. Lorca and his offsider are gonna be harder to find. There’s a cool shootout with Landry.   When Michael and Detmer come in with the badges of all the dead conspirators, it becomes clear that the forgiveness Georgiou is showing Michael doesn’t extend to Detmer. The kitchen is no longer serving Kelpien. Another of Georgiou’s changes. She can no longer stomach the idea of eating sentient beings. She no longer sees them as animals. She’s gotten to know Saru.   I think Michael is being honest when she says she no longer loves Lorca, and is willing to kill him. He abandoned her.   The culmination of Georgiou’s transformation comes when she tells Saru the truth about vahari. Essentially she frees the Kelpien people by revealing this information to him and telling him to share it with others.   Goergiou’s transformation has been accelerated by coming back to the mirror universe. Had she not come here, it would have remained the slow and steady change we’ve seen over the last few years. Sometimes you have to be reminded to who you were, in order to appreciate and embrace who you are becoming. This is all very well done, and is the heart of this two-parter.   And Georgiou says this world is her home. She vows to remain here and re-shape it into what it needs to become. Much as Spock will later on.   So now they’re on the hunt for Lorca, and they’re going to find him through his off-sider, Duggen. They find him in orbit of Risa.   And this is really cool. LAst week, we saw the return of Hannah Cheesman, who played Arium in season 2. She was just in the background, wearing a Terran uniform, but it wasn’t made clear exactly what role she was playing. Was this just an easter egg, like how they got all the alien actors to play humans in Vic’s bar in the final episode of DS9?   Now, we get confirmation she is indeed playing Arium. Remember, Arium was human, but she was injured in an accident and made into a cyborg in order to survive.   It seems that the mirror arium had no such accident and remained human. This also confirms that her name was Arium even when she was still human.   I love this. Very nice touch.   So they beam Duggen aboard to question him about Lorca.   And this is when the surprising but inevitable betrayal happens. Nice little nod to Firefly for you. All through this episode, I’ve hoped that Georgiou was successful in rehabilitating mirror Michael - turning her into something new. But deep down, always knowing that at any time, she may turn on Georgiou. So we’re really not surprised when it happens. Gorgeous isn’t surprised either. She’s become a lot more soft-hearted but she’s not stupid. She knew this was a likely scenario when Michael pledged her loyalty. She hoped for the best but she prepared for the worst.   Michael knew, the minute Goergiou spared her life, that she could never respect her mother again.   I love it when Georgiou says “I have changed. I have seen another way to live. Another way to rule.”   The prime universe has really had an impact on her.   So the battle begins. And again, it’s a cool fight. Discovery has always done action well.   Michael had a lot of people loyal to her. Were Culbert, Nilsson and the others co-conspirators all along, that Michael chose not to kill, or has she recruited them since her false return to grace? I suspect the latter.   Sadly, Georgiou is left with no other choice but to kill her daughter. Again.   Georgiou wakes up back on Dannus 5 with Michael and Carl.   She’s been in the mirror universe for months. From Michael’s perspective she passed out for less than a minute, but her wrist monitor has recorded 3 months of bio-readings.   She wasn’t transported bodily. She shared the body of an alternate Georgiou.  Carl has essentially spun off a new timeline off the mirror universe we know. A timeline that Georgiou has affected greatly. One where the Kelpiens may gain their freedom from the terran empire. Where some good has been done, at least.   Michael and Georgiou keep asking Carl, who are you really. The same question we’ve been asking. And finally, he answers. I am the Guardian of Forever. And they use the original voice recording from the original series. I thought the guardian was voiced by James doohna. I know he did a lot of alien voices, but no, the guardian was played by Bart LaRue. Apparently Doohan voiced the Guardian in the animated series, though. But I haven’t seen that episode. I really need to finish watching the animated series. It’s not great, but it’s still Star Trek.   Sadly, I didn’t feel anything much from this reveal, because it was spoiled for me. I woke up Friday morning, and within minutes, I saw this big reveal spoiled on Instagram. I was quite unhappy.   Spoilers are an interesting thing. I think there’s some responsibility on both sides. I’ve seen people on social media who’ve said things like “I plan to see this movie months after it releases, and heaven help anyone who spoils it for me.” That seems unreasonable. If you’re gonna wait that long, you have to take a little responsibility for protecting yourself, and understand that spoilers likely will happen during that time. But for a spoiler like this to be posted before the episode has even gone live on most of the planet, well, I think that’s a bit unfair. But, those who posted it have apologised and are going to hold to a 24 hour grace period, which I think is a really good idea.   Lower Decks is an interesting case. I’ve had much of that spoiled for me, because I move in the Star Trek circles online. I mean, that’s how I market this podcast. I don’t blame those who have posted spoilers. You can’t expect them to wait 6 months to talk about anything. I can’t even fully blame CBS. COVID kinda messed up their plans for releasing Star Trek.   Anyway, the door breaks apart and re-forms into the familiar stone portal from City on the Edge of Forever. I’m kinda surprised they went there. There was always a lot of controversy and disagreement around the use of the Guardian of Forever in Star Trek while Harlan Ellison was alive. I guess some agreement was met between CBS and his estate.   But this reveal is kinda like the reveal of Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness. It’s played as this big dramatic reveal, but it means nothing to Michael and Gaorgiou. It’s all just for the audience. Personally, I would have dispensed with the artificial suspense and just revealed the guardian properly in part 1. There’s no real reason for it to disguise as a door. A slight reason, perhaps, given it’s in hiding, but then why reveal itself now?   So we get some backstory of what’s happened with the guardian since TOS. When the temporal wars began, everyone kept trying to use the guardian as a weapon to kill each other. It wasn’t pretty. I can well understand the guardian not wanting to be used like that. So, it hid. It removed itself from its original location and hid here on Dannus 5. That makes sense. I kinda like how they tied the guardian into the temporal wars.   But what do I really think of this reveal? Well, it’s cool to see the guardian of forever again. No questions. It was one of my favourite things introduced in TOS. In fact, City on the Edge of Forever is my favourite TOS episode. But is this a good use of it?   I like the character of Carl. He’s cool. He has a fun personality. But, that’s not a personality I associate with the guardian of forever. The appeal of the guardian was it’s mysterious nature. Part mechanism, part being. Both and Neither. That big booming voice. And part of it’s appeal was also it’s setting. That mysterious ancient alien city left in ruins. Where did it come from? How and why was it created?   As much as I like Carl, I feel that he humanises the Guardian of Forever too much. I don’t want it to be humanised. I want it to remain mysterious and alien. That doesn’t mean I don’t want answers to some of the questions about it, but …. I don’t want it to be turned into a pleasant gentleman from the  1930s.   So ultimately, I think this was a mistake. I think they should have either: Made it obviously the guardian from the beginning and do away with Carl altogether. Or Forget the guardian, and just have Carl be a Q (which I still think really fits his personality) or have him be something new. Some new alien with Godlike powers.    I’ve always wanted to see the Guardian of Forever again, but just not like this.   But all of that aside, let’s look at what is explained next, because I do really like it. Georgiou is still dying. She wasn’t sent back to be cured. She was sent back to be weighed. To be tested. To see if she was worthy of the Guardian’s help. Would she make different choices? Has her time in the prime universe changed her? She doesn’t belong here, but sending her somewhere else could cause a lot of problems. The guardian doesn’t want to inflict another time or place with the dangerous Emperor Georgiou. But is she still dangerous?   What’s interesting is that Georgiou assumes she’s failed the test. She killed her daughter. Again. Carl is more interested in her heart than the outcome. And I like that.   Georgiou doesn’t want to go back to the mirror universe. Why would she? But that’s not carl’s plan. He’s going to send her to a time when the prime and mirror universes were still aligned, where her cells won’t fall apart. He doesn’t say exactly where or when. And we’ll talk about that shortly because I have some thoughts.   Carl believes Michael is just where she needs to be, so she can’t go with Georgiou. It’s nice that Geirgiou wants her, though.   So we have a very touching farewell between these two characters. It was wonderful.   We get a brief mention of Husan, the name mentioned in Georgiou’s episodes. She still doesn’t explain who he is, or what he meant to her. Michael tells her to tell the people she’s about to meet. So I guess this backstory will be revealed in the section 31 show. okay.   Georgiou has one final word of wisdom for Michael. This century is more Terran than the 23rd. Saru has navigated the change admirably but he’s not the only one suited for the captain’s chair. I’m not sure exactly what they’re trying to imply, but I thought we were done with the whole, will Michael take the captain’s chair thing. The way I see it, the only way for Michael to become captain of Discovery in any way that I'll accept is to get Saru out of the picture. Either kill or promote him. And frankly, I don’t want that, because Saru is one of my favourite characters.   And then she steps thorough, and is gone.   It’s funny. I really liked the prime Georgiou character, but never quite warmed to mirror Georgiou in the same way. But now, well, I’m really going to miss her.   So …. Where has she ended up?   For a long time, fans have been saying that Georgiou has to return to the 23rd century so she can star in the section 31 show. Now while I’ve never dismissed that possibility, my response has always been “Why are you assuming the section 31 show will be set in the 23rd century. We’ve never been told anything that would suggest that.” But people have been treated that as gospel.   I always thought there was at least an equal chance that the section 31 show would be set here in the 32nd century. Georgiou would leave Discovery to work with section 31 as she had in the past.   Well, we know that’s not the cast anymore.   The most obvious answer to the question is that she has returned to the 23rd century, as so many fans always assumed. And that’s a very likely scenario. But is it the only possibility?   Carl said he was sending her to a time when the prime and mirror universes were aligned. We know they were closely aligned in the 22nd, 23rd and 24th centuries, and on into the 27th, that was the time of the last incursion.   So Goergiou could be going anywhere within that window.   Here’s a wild theory for you. What if she’s going to the 24th, or early 25th century? That’s the time where we first learned about section 31, in Deep Space Nine. That’s where section 31 was used most effectively in story-telling.   This newly changed mirror Georgiou would fit in well with 24th-century section 31, and might even make them a little more moral than they are.   What if the setting of the Section 31 show is just after DS9, or more likely, around the time of Star Trek Picard? I can see that making a lot of sense, and I’d definitely be up for that.   Here’s an even wilder theory. She has been sent back to the time of Enterprise, and she ends up being the founder of Section 31.   I really like what they’ve done with Georgiou’s character. I used to complain that she was not evil enough, given who she was. But now, I have a different perspective. I see now that her time in the prime timeline has gradually changed her. Made her better., And I love that. And I really like the person she has ended up being. I think the arc could have been done a little smoother. I think they were kinda making it up as they went, rather than planning it from day 1, which is a shame. These things always work better for me when they’re been planned in advance.   So .. I’m not totally ready for a Michelle Yeoh lead spin-off. My only concern about the show is how they’re going to treat section 31. I felt that Discovery season 2 kinda ruined section 31. They didn’t handle it well. Have they learned from this? Will the section 31 we see in the new show be more like the section 31 we saw in Deep Space Nine? I can only hope. But I’m very eager to learn more about the show now. I’m especially keen to learn what the setting will be.   I’ll probably be disappointed if I learn it’s back in the 23red century. Strange New Worlds has that era covered. And honestly, I’m not pinning to have Tyler back. I didn’t like this character in season 2, so I don’t think he needs to be part of the new show.   Time will tell.   We finally return to Discovery, to see what our other characters are up to. Adira and Stamets are still trying to hack into the Kelpien ship’s sensors. But they’re having trouble. Book turns up with a device that will help. It’s emerald chain technology. So they finally check in with Vance, who is very concerned about using Chain technology on a Starfleet ship. It could be dangerous and Starfleet can’t afford to risk having their only ship with a spore drive compromised. Book is absolutely convinced it is safe. But I’m still concerned. They’re obviously setting something up here. I think it’ll become problematic in the next couple of episodes.   So this whole thing of Saru delaying his report on the Kelpien ship. I’m not fully following that.   Saru hasn’t seen another Kelpien in a long time, and this is a Kelpien ship. But ….. So what? It’s not like the Kelpiens are extinct. They’re a Federation member. Kaminar is still out there. I don’t quite understand Saru’s reason for not reporting the information to Vance as soon as he knew it. Did he think Vance would not want them to rescue it? I just don’t get it. I don’t know what the writers are getting at here.   Then we get another touching scene. It’s not quite a funeral, it’s just a little get -together to remember their friend who they’ll never see again. It was a lovely scene.   And this ends the story of Phillipa Gaorgiou, closing a story that began with the first episode of season 1.   In a way, this two-parter has seemed a bit like a distraction from the greater season plot, but I’m totally cool with it. The character arcs are just as important to this season as the burn story is.   And I, for one, have really enjoyed Terra Firma Parts 1 and 2. We’re getting close to the end now. Just 3 episodes to go. Next week we’ll be talking about episode 11 “The Citadel.” I’m excited to see what happens as the season’s plot arc goes into top gear. It should be cool.   And I’ll be watching that episode on Christmas day. But I’ll be on holiday by then.I plan to get my podcast out Monday morning, Australian time, as always.   I’ve revamped the books page on my website, so if you’re interested in trying out some of my fiction, you can see it all nicely laid out at AdamDavidCollings.com/books I’d encourage you to check it out.   Until I see you next, have a great week, Merry Christmas, live long and prosper.

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Ruthie and Brian talk through S3E9 of Star Trek: Discovery, titled Terra Firma, Part 1. Georgiou's condition worsens and the Discovery computer sends them to a distant planet for a remote chance for a cure. What happens there may surprise you.

Ruthie and Brian talk through S3E9 of Star Trek: Discovery, titled Terra Firma, Part 1. Georgiou's condition worsens and the Discovery computer sends them to a distant planet for a remote chance for a cure. What happens there may surprise you.

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 3 Episode 9 – Terra Firma, Part 1 We’re back!!! On this supersized episode, Ruthie and Brian talk through Star Trek: Discovery, Season 3 Episode 9, titled Terra Firma, Part 1. This episode’s teleplay was written by Alan McElroy, with the story by Bo Yeon Kim & Erika Lippoldt & Alan McElroy, and it was directed by Omar Madha. Sorry about the lateness this episode is in getting to you. Unfortunately, I had to work over the weekend and later into the week, so my editing time was compromised. That said, I got this episode released (mistitled, but I’ve since fixed it) on our YouTube Channel. Remember to smash that Subscribe button and ring the notification bell to get notified as soon as new episodes come out! For the final four episodes, we are switching to a Saturday morning recording schedule due to the holiday season. Because of that, we are extending the deadlines to Saturday morning. That may mean that the episodes may come out later than normal as well because we are switching to a Saturday morning recording schedule for the rest of the season. Keep this in mind, especially for you European listeners. You have an extra 11 hours to get in your feedback to us! SPOILERS AHEAD!!! If you haven’t seen this episode of Star Trek: Discovery, stop right now!!! Go watch it, then come back!!! We’ll be here for you! Shocked! Shocked I say!!! Georgiou’s condition worsens and the Discovery computer sends them to a distant planet for a remote chance for a cure. What happens there may surprise you. May surprise you??? I was DUMBFOUNDED!!! For the first time in more than 200 episodes of podcasting, I could not rate this episode!!! It was SO out of left field for me. I did not expect them to go to the Mirror Universe, though, in retrospect, I should have. Opinions were many and spirited for this episode. After re-watching it more than once (I only got to watch it once this week prior to recording), I can tell you that I appreciated the episode a LOT more after the shock of it wore off, but you’ll hear me talk about that a lot this week. All in all, I knew it was (mostly) a great episode this week, but I had so many questions about it, I had to defer my rating. Ruthie also had a lot of questions, but she gave it a rating. Going to the Mirror Universe now seems like it’s a natural thing to do, given Georgiou’s condition, but we questioned its place in the season, and it taking away from the main plot. Next week, I’ll bring something up about how it seems like a back door pilot and only placed here because they decided to bring Michelle Yeoh and Georgiou into Season 3. Chapters 00:00:00 STDP 056 – Terra Firma, Part 1 (Star Trek: Discovery S3E9)00:00:17 Intro00:01:58 Feedback for Previous Episodes00:12:28 About Terra Firma, Part 100:14:19 Ratings00:27:47 Yeses01:02:11 Nos01:13:46 Hold Your Horses01:54:47 Listener Feedback02:22:42 Our Notes02:31:44 Shipwide Announcements02:41:42 Wrap Up Subscribe to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to catch our Discovery episodes! Make sure you have subscribed to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to get these episodes when they come unless you listen to us on the All-Inclusive feed, or on YouTube. Next, we will be discussing Season 3 Episode 10 of Star Trek: Discovery titled Terra Firma, Part 2. The deadline for the rest of the season will be Saturday, 6 AM Eastern/5 AM Central due to the holiday season. Check the Facebook group for any updates. Your feedback is SO important to us!!! Don’t forget! If you have been listening to us on the Star Trek Picard Cast feed, subscribe to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast to get the Discovery episodes. If you’re listening to us on the Talk Through Media All-Inclusive Feed, there’s nothing for you to do. Links to us… Want to participate? Join our Facebook group! And follow us on Twitter! And don’t forget to subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts! While you do, we’d appreciate it if you can leave us a review, hopefully, a 5-star! Or, if not, a rating will do!!! You can do the same on Podchaser. You can leave us a review on several different platforms here. Also, you can leave us a review on the Talk Through Media Facebook page. And don’t forget to sign up for our Patreon to get access to our Patreon episodes. Sign up to CBS All Access! Help support the podcast! If you sign up from this link, you’ll help support the podcast, as CBS gives us a small referral fee, and it costs you nothing! Star Trek: Discovery is now streaming on CBS All Access! Click this banner to sign up, and you’ll help support the podcast! Speaking of our Patreon… We have released our eighth Patreon calls so far. We were hoping to schedule a Patreon this weekend, but we were unable to due to the power outage. If you want to listen to it when it comes out, sign up to our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/brianandruthie for as little as $1/month and you’ll get access! Become a Patron! Watch this episode on YouTube!

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 3 Episode 9 – Terra Firma, Part 1 We’re back!!! On this supersized episode, Ruthie and Brian talk through Star Trek: Discovery, Season 3 Episode 9, titled Terra Firma, Part 1. This episode’s teleplay was written by Alan McElroy, with the story by Bo Yeon Kim & Erika Lippoldt & Alan McElroy, and it was directed by Omar Madha. Sorry about the lateness this episode is in getting to you. Unfortunately, I had to work over the weekend and later into the week, so my editing time was compromised. That said, I got this episode released (mistitled, but I’ve since fixed it) on our YouTube Channel. Remember to smash that Subscribe button and ring the notification bell to get notified as soon as new episodes come out! For the final four episodes, we are switching to a Saturday morning recording schedule due to the holiday season. Because of that, we are extending the deadlines to Saturday morning. That may mean that the episodes may come out later than normal as well because we are switching to a Saturday morning recording schedule for the rest of the season. Keep this in mind, especially for you European listeners. You have an extra 11 hours to get in your feedback to us! SPOILERS AHEAD!!! If you haven’t seen this episode of Star Trek: Discovery, stop right now!!! Go watch it, then come back!!! We’ll be here for you! Shocked! Shocked I say!!! Georgiou’s condition worsens and the Discovery computer sends them to a distant planet for a remote chance for a cure. What happens there may surprise you. May surprise you??? I was DUMBFOUNDED!!! For the first time in more than 200 episodes of podcasting, I could not rate this episode!!! It was SO out of left field for me. I did not expect them to go to the Mirror Universe, though, in retrospect, I should have. Opinions were many and spirited for this episode. After re-watching it more than once (I only got to watch it once this week prior to recording), I can tell you that I appreciated the episode a LOT more after the shock of it wore off, but you’ll hear me talk about that a lot this week. All in all, I knew it was (mostly) a great episode this week, but I had so many questions about it, I had to defer my rating. Ruthie also had a lot of questions, but she gave it a rating. Going to the Mirror Universe now seems like it’s a natural thing to do, given Georgiou’s condition, but we questioned its place in the season, and it taking away from the main plot. Next week, I’ll bring something up about how it seems like a back door pilot and only placed here because they decided to bring Michelle Yeoh and Georgiou into Season 3. Chapters 00:00:00 STDP 056 – Terra Firma, Part 1 (Star Trek: Discovery S3E9)00:00:17 Intro00:01:58 Feedback for Previous Episodes00:12:28 About Terra Firma, Part 100:14:19 Ratings00:27:47 Yeses01:02:11 Nos01:13:46 Hold Your Horses01:54:47 Listener Feedback02:22:42 Our Notes02:31:44 Shipwide Announcements02:41:42 Wrap Up Subscribe to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to catch our Discovery episodes! Make sure you have subscribed to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to get these episodes when they come unless you listen to us on the All-Inclusive feed, or on YouTube. Next, we will be discussing Season 3 Episode 10 of Star Trek: Discovery titled Terra Firma, Part 2. The deadline for the rest of the season will be Saturday, 6 AM Eastern/5 AM Central due to the holiday season. Check the Facebook group for any updates. Your feedback is SO important to us!!! Don’t forget! If you have been listening to us on the Star Trek Picard Cast feed, subscribe to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast to get the Discovery episodes. If you’re listening to us on the Talk Through Media All-Inclusive Feed, there’s nothing for you to do. Links to us… Want to participate? Join our Facebook group! And follow us on Twitter! And don’t forget to subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts! While you do, we’d appreciate it if you can leave us a review, hopefully, a 5-star! Or, if not, a rating will do!!! You can do the same on Podchaser. You can leave us a review on several different platforms here. Also, you can leave us a review on the Talk Through Media Facebook page. And don’t forget to sign up for our Patreon to get access to our Patreon episodes. Sign up to CBS All Access! Help support the podcast! If you sign up from this link, you’ll help support the podcast, as CBS gives us a small referral fee, and it costs you nothing! Star Trek: Discovery is now streaming on CBS All Access! Click this banner to sign up, and you’ll help support the podcast! Speaking of our Patreon… We have released our eighth Patreon calls so far. We were hoping to schedule a Patreon this weekend, but we were unable to due to the power outage. If you want to listen to it when it comes out, sign up to our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/brianandruthie for as little as $1/month and you’ll get access! Become a Patron! Watch this episode on YouTube!

Michael Burnham and the discovery embark on a mission to save Emperor Georgiou. A trip to the Mirror Universe sets up a mysterious episode.

Today we talk about the first part of Star Trek Discovery's first traditional two-parter. It's a character study of Georgiou and it takes us back to the mirror universe. Meanwhile, Stamets and Adira continue to uncover new information about the source of the burn. ----more---- Transcript Welcome to Nerd Heaven I’m Adam David Collings, the author of Jewel of The Stars. And I am a nerd.   This is episode 46 of the podcast. Today we’re talking about Star Trek Discovery Terra Firma Part 1.   But just before we launch into that, did you hear about all the new Star Wars shows that Disney+ just announced? They announced 7 new TV shows. Combined with The Mandalorian and Obi-Wan Kenobi, that’s a total of 9 shows.   We currently have 6 Star Trek shows either already on the air, or in various stages of pre-production.   That’s a whole lot of sci-fi entertainment. Now … if only we can get an official green light on the new Stargate show they have in the works. That would be awesome.   But as I said, today, we’re talking Star Trek.   The description on memory alpha reads   The USS Discovery crew journeys to a mysterious planet in hopes of finding a cure for Georgiou's deteriorating condition. Stamets and Adira make a stunning breakthrough with the newly acquired Burn data.   The teleplay for this episode was written by Alan McElroy based on a story by Bo Yeon Kim,  Erika Lippoldt & Alan McElroy   It was directed by Omar Madha   And it first aired on the 10th of December 2020.   Make it so. This episode has a big Georgiou focus.We open with Culbert seeking advice from the Starfleet interrogator. The one that was questioning Georgiou a few episodes back. Apparently, the character’s name is Kovich, although I don’t think that’s ever been said out loud in-universe. A lot of people have been referring to him by the name of the actor playing him. A guy named David Cronenberg. He sounds like a big deal. I’m not familiar with him myself. I actually thought he reminded me a little of British actor Bill Nyee. Some people have even theorised that he’s section 31, which is a reasonable theory, but certainly not yet canonised.   Why Culbert goes to Kovich, I’m not sure. But it turns out, he has all the answers we’ve been looking for. It turns out to be a case of temporal displacement. Our molecules like to remain in the time they were created. But the whole crew have travelled 900 years into the future, and they’re all fine. But Georgiou not only travelled in time, she’s also from another universe. A universe which has been growing ever further apart from ours. Every molecule in her body is screaming to return home. So the hologram theory is out.   And then Kovich activates a holographic image of Lieutenant Commander Yor, a deceased time soldier from the Temporal War. And he’s wearing a Next Generation season 1 uniform, with the shoulder stripes. IT was delightful to see this nostalgic old uniform on Discovery. Do you notice that Discovery is paying a whole lot more respect to TNG than it ever did to TOS?   But I was all set to have a good old nitpick about this. You see, I’d seen images from an episode preview, that they show in America, which clearly showed Tor in this uniform, but with a Voyager-style com badge. That com badge didn’t come into effect until 2371, which would have been the 8th season of TNG. It was never worn with this particular uniform.   Now Kovich says something that can explain it shortly, which we’ll get to in just a sec. But I noticed in my second watch of the episode, that they’ve edited it. They’ve put in the proper TNG com badge that matches this uniform. That must have been a digital effect. It’s a silly mistake that should never have been made, but I’m glad they sorted it out.   But Kovich explains that Tor is from the year 2379. Okay. So that means the Voyager com badge was correct, but the uniform was dead wrong. 2379, the year Star Trek Nemesis was set.   But then he says something that changes everything.Tor came from an alternate universe created by a temporal incursion caused by a Romulan mining ship.   Whoa.   So Tor is from the Kelvin universe. This is huge. This is the first outright acknowledgement of the Kelvin universe from the prime universe. This is also our first canon look at someone from the TNG era of the Kelvin universe. So apparently, over there, they didn’t change uniforms near as often as they did here in the prime. They skipped the TNG season 3 uniform, the Voyager/deep space nine uniform, and the First Contact uniform. This is really interesting.   So this also means that the Kelvin universe was involved in the temporal wars. Which kinda makes sense. That war was all about temporal incursions and creating new timelines. Although Enterprise used a different concept of time-travel than what Star Trek 2009 did, but let’s just leave that aside.   So yeah, wonderful to see that uniform, and fascinating to get a connection with the Kelvin timeline.   Sadly, things didn’t turn out well for poor old Tor. He ended up in so much pain the Federation petitioned for euthenasia. They couldn’t send him back to his own universe, because to do so would violate the temporal acords, which were taken very seriously.   That doesn’t bode well for Georgiou, because it means Starfleet won’t allow her to return home either. Kovich doesn’t want Goergiou to know of her fate. A dying Terran’s instinct is to find a way to die in battle. Much like a Klingon. Nobody wants that loose on Discovery. He recommends sedation and locking her up.   But Culbert, the good doctor as ever, asks the computer to find another solution, combining all additional data that Discovery had, which obviously includes the sphere data. And, much to Kovich’s surprise, it’s found another option.   Meanwhile, Gorgeous can’t even pick up a glass, because her hand goes straight through it. I kinda like how Georgiou refers to Tilly as Saru’s walking command blunder, echoing what a lot of people have said, that her promotion makes no sense. Tilly is awesome, but she’s not ready for first officer yet.   The sphere data says the solution is on Dannus Five. A world near the border between the alpha and gamma quadrants. It’s still only a 5 percent chance for her, but better than zero.   I like the way Discovery has been using the sphere data this season. Remember back in Voyager ,when an alien entity put gigaquads of information about the universe into the ship’s computer, and it was never mentioned again? That was an absolute travesty. Discovery is still probably under-selling the usefulness of this data but it’s doing a significantly better job than Voyager did.   Saru is inclined to not ignore Goergiou’s plight. The Emerald Chain are conducting exercises near Federation space and Starfleet are on yellow alert.   But Vance is willing to authorise the mission on one condition. That Michael assures him she can let go of Georgiou when the time comes, because the odds are not good. She hesitated when she had to sacrifice Arium. Vance wants to know that she won’t hesitate again. And she gives him her word. This has got to be one of the hardest parts of being a starfleet officer. The willingness to sacrifice a life to save a crew. I don’t think I could handle being in a situation like that. I don’t think I have what it takes to make a tough call like that. Especially when it’s somebody you care about.   We see a very good conversation play out between Vance and Saru. Saru is trying really hard to be the good reliable captain. He doesn’t want to let Vance down. He wants to prove that he can be trusted to serve the needs of this new Starfleet. That’s why he was willing to sacrifice Georgiou and forgo the mission altogether.   Vance explosions a little of his backstory. He made a lot of mistakes over the course of his career. One thing he’s learned is that if a crewmember is drowning, and you let her, the crew will never look at their captain, or the Federation, the same way again. The hard pragmatic choice is not always the right one. You have to have heart and compassion. You have to treat your crew as people. Any captain needs a little bit of Kirk in him.   I love this scene. I’m loving Saru’s arc through this season as he learns to be a better captain. And I’m really liking Vance as a character more and more.   Georgiou’s vulnerability is really poking through the cracks of her bravado. We’re seeing past the tough emperor to the scared little girl inside her. She doesn’t see much hope for success in this plan. She wants an honourable death. She wants Michael to kill her. But Michael’s having none of it. This episode is really showing us what Michelle Yeoh can do as an actor.   We also get a little backstory about mirror Burnham. Apparently Georgiou picked her up from a rubbish heap.   We get a pretty heart-warming farewell to Georgious from both Saru and Tilly. Georgiou has come a long way so that she can look Saru in the eye and call him captain. When they first met, she saw him as nothing but dinner.   So they beam down to the planet. It’s a pretty icy place. And I love the visible rings in the sky. I doubt it’s scientifically accurate, but it looks awesome.   As much as I like their trek through the snow, why didn’t they beam directly to the coordinates? Why beam down close and then walk, following the tricorder’s directions?   Now we cut back to the overall season plot with the burn. Honestly, I was expecting this two-parter to be all about the burn. Learning what was in the centre of the nebula. I wasn’t expecting a character study of Georgiou, or a re-examination of the mirror universe, although, given the episode title, I probably should have connected Terra with the mirror universe.   Anyway, Adira is still trying to use the algorithm to decipher the starfleet distress call. Stammets notices that Adira is exhausted and has made a silly mistake, which has cost them hours of wasted effort. Adira is really frustrated by this. It’s the same old story. Starfleet officer becomes obsessed with a task and refuses to sleep. But in this case, we see realistic consequences. And I really like that.   As a computer programmer, I often make stupid mistakes like this which take hours to hunt down. And that’s when I’m not sleep-deprived. It happens.   Gray is still not speaking but Adira is apparently not angry, although facial expressions may suggest otherwise. Stammets points out that Gray wanted Adira to make more ties with the outside world. Friends. Maybe that’s why he’s hiding. Adira makes a good point. “He doesn’t get to decide what’s good for me.” It feels a bit manipulative, especially for the disembodied spirit of a dead person.   And the algorithm has finished. While on his way to find out what Stammets and Adira have uncovered, Saru has a chat with Book. Books wants in. He wants to help the crew of Discovery. But he wants to do it on his own terms. Saru isn’t interested in that. I’m not sure exactly what Saru is expecting. Putting on a Starfleet uniform and joining the crew perhaps? Which may require training at whatever the equivalent of Starfleet Academy is these days. I think it’s going to take a while for Book to really find his place, and it’ll take a little bending on both sides.   It turns out, the ship stuck in the nebula is Kalpien.  So a few years before the burn, their ship got stranded in the nebula. Another ship was coming to rescue them. The end of the message is sadly lost. A lot of people were theorising that it was actually discovery in that nebula, trying to tie it into the short trek Calypso. That made a lot of sense, but I’m kinda glad that’s not where the show is taking us. That would have just been another case of “The red angel is actually michael.” I used to enjoy that trope, but it’s getting a bit old, to be honest.  This Kelpien thing is interesting, because it’s an unexpected development. I’m keen to learn more about that happened, and what they may have had to do with the burn. Gorgeou keeps comparing Michael to her mirror counterpart. The reason she picked Burnham from that rubbish pile was that she was the only one not begging for help. She was prepared to be her own salvation, and Georgiou respected that.   It’s interesting. Georgiou clearly had a desire to experience motherhood. So there was always some form of humanity in her. She probably wasn’t able to have children biologically. But her choice to pick someone from a rubbish heap is interesting. She wasn’t there to do charity work. If she’d really cared about helping kids out of poverty, she’d have rescued the mall. She certainly had that within her power as emperor. But she ignored all the pleas and just took Michael. But why not adopt some other way. I don’t think we have enough insight into her character to really understand this yet.   This is where things get … interesting. They find a wooden door just sitting in the snow, and a man dressed in 1940s style clothes, smoking a cigar and sitting on a park bench reading a newspaper, which claims “Emperor Georgiou dies horribly painful death. The newspaper is called The Star Dispatch.   Who is this bloke? He offers Georgiou a doorway into her own past. Back into the mirror universe.   I can only assume he is a Q. This is totally their style. The episode keeps the truth of this character pretty close to its chest. We will probably learn the truth next episode. I’ll probably be disappointed if it’s anything other than the Q. Because I can’t see anything else making sense.   Anyway, the guy calls himself Carl. He tells a few really punny dad jokes, and then makes it clear the door is for Georgiou to walk through.   He makes an interesting statement. The door doesn’t lead. It follows. Does that mean that Georgiou plays a big part in determining what she’ll experience? Her past in the mirror universe, and her relationship with mirror burnham are clearly on her mind, so it makes sense she’d lead the experience where it goes.   I tried to pause the episode and read some of the other headlines in the newspaper, but it was too blurry.   Michael wants answers, but Carl says the question needs to proceed. It’s dangerous to go the other way around. Now, apart from giving me some Hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy vibes, this suggests to me that Georgiou is not yet sure what exactly she’s seeking, or what question she needs to answer. She’s about to go on a journey of self-discovery.   Michael rather illogically wants to return to Discovery. This is what they came down for. This is what the sphere data lead them to.   So she steps through and finds herself in the mirror universe. Onboard the USS Discovery. Being welcomed by captain Killy.   This is actually the first time we’ve seen Mary Wiseman play Killy. We’ve seen prime Tilly try to impersonate Killy, but that’s all.   It takes Georgiou a moment to adapt to her settings, but she quickly realises she’s in the past. This is the day they christened the Charon. The day Lorca and Michael betrayed her.   Now I’ve been complaining a little bit that over seasons 2 and 3, Gorgeous just doesn’t seem evil enough. She’s the mirror universe emperor. She’s ruthless and cares nothing over taking lives. She eats Kelpiens.   But I’m seeing through this episode that they’re taking her character in a new way. They’re showing that her time in the prime universe has changed her. More than she had realised. And that’s cool. So they’ve actually won me over. I mean, they could have done a better job of portraying her as a little more evil throughout season 2, but I’ll buy that he time in the prime universe has slowly made her a better person. I just felt like it happened too rapidly and suddenly.   But this episode is really highlighting how she’s changed. She misses her own Michael, regrets killing her. She tells Tilly she wants to bring Michael back into the fold. But as we’ll soon learn, in Michael’s eyes, Georgiou was already becoming weak. Not as ruthless as a Terran emperor should be. Even before she met anyone from our universe, she was already softening. Initially, we saw her from the perspective of the prime characters, so she looked like a monster. But now, seeing her through mirror Michael’s eyes, she is an old softy. It’s fascinating. And it’s pretty well done.   This episode is also the first time we see mirror burnham. Sonequa Martin Green plays her wonderfully ruthless. And it’s also an excuse to bring back Landry from season 1, played by BattleStar galactica’s Rekha Sharma.   Mirror brnham really hates Kelpiens. When she calls for Saru to be killed and cooked for dessert, Georgiou intervenes. This is the moment we realise just how much Georgiou has changed. She can’t just sit by and watch while Saru, a man she seems to have come to respect, is treated like meat.   The Terrans have basically taken on the role of the Bau’ul in the mirror universe. They kill kepliens before they can finish going through vahari. That makes them much easier to enslave, obviously.   And Saru ends up being a useful source of intelligence for Gergiou.   But Georgiou has a problem. We’ve learned the reason Michael and Lorca tried to overthrow her was because of her weakness. But now, given the way she’s changed, she’s more weak, not less, (at least in the way that the mirror universe defines weakness)   Gorgeou keeps trying to drop hints about the importance of loyalty. I think Michael knows she knows.   It turns out that mirror stamets was in league with Lorca and Michael. But Georgiou knows this. She kills Stamets, which is the first major change to history. So we have to ask. Is she actually in the past, changing the timeline? Or is this all one big illusion, as the Q often like to play with? We won’t really know until next week.   Given how much ambition she’s supposed to have, I’m surprised Killy hasn’t tried to overthrow Georgiou. But she’s smart. She probably figures she can gain more power by siding with the emperor against Lora and Michael, cementing herself as a trusted captain.   Georgiou offers to let Michael live, if she’ll confess. This is why Michael tried to kill her in the first place. The weakness she has seen in her mother.   Gorgeous says don’t confuse weakness with growth. And this is actually how we’d see this from a prime universe perspective. We don’t see compassion as a weakness. We see it as a strength. A virtue. Something to be applauded. Georgiou has learned that from us, but it’s a lesson that won’t serve her well in the mirror universe.   She’s not really sure what she’s supposed to be accomplishing here. But she’s been given a chance to go back and do things differently. And she’s taking it.   And now we get to understand Michael’s adoption from her own perspective. She was a master of that rubbish heap. But now, she’s forever in her mother’s shadow. Lorca loves her for her. But, of course, he doesn’t. She’s just a tool to get at Georgiou.   When goaded into executing Michael, Georgiou can’t do it. She spares her daughter. As of this moment, their future is unwritten.   I think Owo is unconvinced. She may be the next one to turn.   I spent the whole second half of this episode waiting to see if Jason Isaacs would return as Lorca. I really expected to see him in the last few minutes. But that didn’t happen. So what do you think? Will he turn up part 2?   This was not what I was expecting from Discovery’s first traditional two-parter. I really didn’t think we’d ever be going back to the mirror universe. But I enjoyed it. It was kinda cool to see it again and to get to see some of the characters we’ve heard about but have never seen.    I think in a lot of ways, this episode is setting up Georgiou to be ready to helm the section 31 series. Making her a better person, so she can believably be the hero that we root for.    A lot of people have been assuming she has to go back to the 23rd century because they assume that’s when the show will be set. But I’ve never been convinced of that. I mean, the reason they brought Discovery into the future was so that the show didn’t have to trample all over TOS canon. If they go back and do section 31 in that time, it kinda defeats the purpose. I know Strange New Worlds will be set in that time, but its exploration focus will make it a lot more insular. It’ll be less likely to stomp all over canon.   I have mixed feelings about the section 31 show. I love Georgiou, and I love section 31, but I’m not a fan of what discovery did with the organisation in season 2. So I suppose I should clarify that I love section 31 as it was portrayed in Deep Space Nine. Can this show redeem what discovery season 2 did? Maybe. We’ll see.   Anyway, I’m really looking forward to next week. It should be fun to see how things are going to be resolved. Next week, of course, we’ll be talking about Terra Firma Part 2. We’re getting close to the end of the season. It’ll all be finished in early January.    I’m looking forward to the Christmas holidays. It’s been a long year and I’m exhausted. I’m gonna have 3 weeks off work, which will be nice, and should allow me some time to catch up with my writing. At present, this podcast basically takes up all of my creative time and energy. And I really need to get Jewel of The Stars book 3 out soon.   Speaking of which you can grab book 1 for just 99 cents at books2read.com/jewel. It’s basically Star Trek but on a cruise ship.   Well, I’m tired and I can’t think of anything else to say, other than Live long and prosper. Make it so.

The USS Discovery crew journeys to a mysterious planet in hopes of finding a cure for Georgiou's deteriorating condition. In this episode of the podcast, Wes and Clay discuss "Terra Firma, Part I" and the "arc" of Emperor Georgiou. Plus! The guys talk about heading back to the Mirror Universe, super-ship USS Discovery, and Vance letting people do whatever they want to do. Are you looking for older episodes? Find this and every other episode at The Pensky Podcast! Thanks for listening. Stay connected: • https://thepenskyfile.com/links/ • e-mail: thepenskyfilevideo(at)gmail.com

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 3 Episode 8 – The Sanctuary We’re back!!! Ruthie and Brian talk through Star Trek: Discovery, Season 3 Episode 8, titled The Sanctuary. This episode was written by Kenneth Lin & Brandon Schultz, and it was directed by Jonathan Frakes. SPOILERS AHEAD!!! If you haven’t seen this episode of Star Trek: Discovery, stop right now!!! Go watch it, then come back!!! We’ll be here for you! Chapters 00:00:00 STDP 055 – The Sanctuary (Star Trek: Discovery S3E8)00:00:17 Intro00:01:08 Feedback on Previous Episodes00:06:24 About The Sanctuary00:07:57 Ratings00:12:41 Yeses00:23:29 Nos00:49:05 Hold Your Horses01:04:42 Listener Feedback01:35:38 Our Notes01:42:00 Shipwide Announcements01:51:27 Wrap Up Subscribe to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to catch our Discovery episodes! Make sure you have subscribed to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to get these episodes when they come unless you listen to us on the All-Inclusive feed, or on YouTube. Next, we will be discussing Season 3 Episode 9 of Star Trek: Discovery titled Terra Firma, Part 1. The deadline for the rest of the season will be Saturday 6 AM Eastern/5 AM Central unless otherwise noted in the Facebook group. Your feedback is SO important to us!!! Don’t forget! If you have been listening to us on the Star Trek Picard Cast feed, subscribe to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast to get the Discovery episodes. If you’re listening to us on the Talk Through Media All-Inclusive Feed, there’s nothing for you to do. Links to us… Want to participate? Join our Facebook group! And follow us on Twitter! And don’t forget to subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts! While you do, we’d appreciate it if you can leave us a review, hopefully, a 5-star! Or, if not, a rating will do!!! You can do the same on Podchaser. You can leave us a review on several different platforms here. Also, you can leave us a review on the Talk Through Media Facebook page. And don’t forget to sign up for our Patreon to get access to our Patreon episodes. Sign up to CBS All Access! Help support the podcast! If you sign up from this link, you’ll help support the podcast, as CBS gives us a small referral fee, and it costs you nothing! Star Trek: Discovery is now streaming on CBS All Access! Click this banner to sign up, and you’ll help support the podcast! Speaking of our Patreon… We have released our eighth Patreon calls so far. We were hoping to schedule a Patreon this weekend, but we were unable to due to the power outage. If you want to listen to it when it comes out, sign up to our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/brianandruthie for as little as $1/month and you’ll get access! Become a Patron! Watch this episode on YouTube!

Jack, Barm and Ferengi Expert and Golden Boy Kregg Castillo are BOOKING it to BOOK CENTRAL to discuss SANCTUARY.  Which also means they gon’ talk about Detmer and Tilly’s Andorian hubby getting their trench run on with Grudge in their lap, Emperor Georgiou at peak intolerability (and Culber reacting appropriately), the Section 31 show they would actually be excited to see, ESL aliens, pronouns, Stamets jam sessions, really liking this episode, SEA LOCUSTS and fucking BOBA FETT.  MANIFEST!

Ruthie and Brian talk through S3E8 of Star Trek: Discovery, titled The Sanctuary. The USS Discovery arrives at Kwejian, Booker's home planet, where they are threatened by Osyraa and the Emerald Chain.

Ruthie and Brian talk through S3E8 of Star Trek: Discovery, titled The Sanctuary. The USS Discovery arrives at Kwejian, Booker's home planet, where they are threatened by Osyraa and the Emerald Chain.

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 3 Episode 8 – The Sanctuary We’re back!!! Ruthie and Brian talk through Star Trek: Discovery, Season 3 Episode 8, titled The Sanctuary. This episode was written by Kenneth Lin & Brandon Schultz, and it was directed by Jonathan Frakes. SPOILERS AHEAD!!! If you haven’t seen this episode of Star Trek: Discovery, stop right now!!! Go watch it, then come back!!! We’ll be here for you! Chapters 00:00:00 STDP 055 – The Sanctuary (Star Trek: Discovery S3E8)00:00:17 Intro00:01:08 Feedback on Previous Episodes00:06:24 About The Sanctuary00:07:57 Ratings00:12:41 Yeses00:23:29 Nos00:49:05 Hold Your Horses01:04:42 Listener Feedback01:35:38 Our Notes01:42:00 Shipwide Announcements01:51:27 Wrap Up Subscribe to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to catch our Discovery episodes! Make sure you have subscribed to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast feed to get these episodes when they come unless you listen to us on the All-Inclusive feed, or on YouTube. Next, we will be discussing Season 3 Episode 9 of Star Trek: Discovery titled Terra Firma. The deadline will be back to its regular day and time, 7 PM Eastern/6 PM Central on Friday, December 11, 2020, and not extended further unless otherwise announced on the Facebook group. Your feedback is SO important to us!!! Don’t forget! If you have been listening to us on the Star Trek Picard Cast feed, subscribe to the Star Trek Discovery Podcast to get the Discovery episodes. If you’re listening to us on the Talk Through Media All-Inclusive Feed, there’s nothing for you to do. Links to us… Want to participate? Join our Facebook group! And follow us on Twitter! And don’t forget to subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts! While you do, we’d appreciate it if you can leave us a review, hopefully, a 5-star! Or, if not, a rating will do!!! You can do the same on Podchaser. You can leave us a review on several different platforms here. Also, you can leave us a review on the Talk Through Media Facebook page. And don’t forget to sign up for our Patreon to get access to our Patreon episodes. Sign up to CBS All Access! Help support the podcast! If you sign up from this link, you’ll help support the podcast, as CBS gives us a small referral fee, and it costs you nothing! Star Trek: Discovery is now streaming on CBS All Access! Click this banner to sign up, and you’ll help support the podcast! Speaking of our Patreon… We have released our eighth Patreon calls so far. We were hoping to schedule a Patreon this weekend, but we were unable to due to the power outage. If you want to listen to it when it comes out, sign up to our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/brianandruthie for as little as $1/month and you’ll get access! Become a Patron! Watch this episode on YouTube!

This episode 8 of Star Trek Discovery Season 3, Book is called back to his home planet Kwejian. Osyraa, leader of the Emerald Chain wants Ryn the Andorian back, and she'll do anything to get her hands on him. There were a lot of different strands running through this episode, so let's dive in and see what we can find in "The Sanctuary". Get my Sci-fi Christmas Short story "The Christmas Star Disaster" for 99 cents at https://books2read.com/christmasstar Get the prequel to Jewel of The Stars free at http://www.adamdavidcollings.com/free ----more---- Transcript Welcome to Nerd Heaven I’m Adam David Collings, the author of Jewel of The Stars And I am a nerd.   This is episode 45 of the Podcast.   And this is also the one year anniversary of Nerd Heaven. The first episode went live on the 6th of December 2019. In that episode, I talked about the Star Trek: The Next Generation Episode “Best of Both Worlds.” as part of my ‘what should you watch before Star Trek Picard’ series.   I can’t believe it’s been a whole year.  During this first year, we’ve covered the entire first season of Star Trek Picard, we’ve talked about the DC Extended Universe movies, from Man of Steel up to Shazam, we’ve occasionally dipped into Middle Earth for my Lord of The Rings Read, Walk and Watch series, and a few other little bits and pieces. It’s been quite a ride so far. And there’s plenty more to come. After we’re done with Star Trek Discovery season 3, I’m very excited to launch into our analysis of Stargate Universe.   So thank you to everyone who has listened to Nerd Heaven at any point during the last year. I appreciate the support, and I hope you’ve enjoyed my musings.   But today, we’re talking about Star Trek Discovery Season 3 Episode 8 “The Sanctuary.” The description on Memory Alpha reads “Burnham and the USS Discovery crew travel to Book’s home planet to help rescue it from Osyraa, the formidable leader of the Emerald Chain. Meanwhile, Stamets and Adira continue their search for valuable information on the origin of the Burn.”   The episode was written by Kenneth Lin & Brandon A. Schultz It was directed by Jonathan Frankes And it first aired on the 3rd of December 2020.   This episode has a lot of strands. There’s the main A plot involving Book’s planet, along with character pieces for a number of characters, and the continued investigation into the cause of the burn. Usually, I really like episodes like that, but in this case, I feel like the A  plot may not have been developed enough.   Georgiou is in sickbay getting checked out for her weird episodes, but she’s not cooperating. She outright says to Doctor Culbert, “I don’t need your help.” It makes me wonder why she’s here in the first place. Was she ordered to report to sickbay? Until now, only Michael knew of the severity of Georgiou’s condition. It’s all a bit confusing.   She’s trying to hide from her own fear of this problem by falling back on her Emperor Georgiou pattern. Making vague threats against Culbert, as if she were still in the mirror universe, and he was a subject that had displeased him. She’ll continue to do this throughout the whole episode. Sometimes it feels like a bit much. Culbert can see right through her. He knows she’s terrified.  Culbert manages to convince her to accept some help by describing how brain dysfunction will progress over time, but her outward attitude hasn’t changed. Her fake bravado is as see-through as my windows. But, I guess she can’t help but maintain it. She’s Emperor Georgiou.   Book’s home planet is called Kwejian. And he’s frantic about having to return there. His brother Kyheem has sent him a message through the courier network. And he wants Michael to go with him. He doesn’t know what’s going on. He doesn’t know why he needs to return home. He only knows it somehow involves Osyrra and the Emerald Chain. So it must have been a pretty vague message. But he hasn’t heard from his brother in 15 years, so he assumes it’s bad.   Apparently, there are transwarp tunnels around the galaxy, but using them is very dangerous. We’re not told why. This is something that needs to be explored more fully.   The first time I watched this episode, I had trouble following this particular plotline. The details came in so fast and frantic I just couldn’t take it all in.   So, the burn caused a shift in the orbit on Kwejian’s moon. This caused sea locusts to come out of the ocean and eat all their harvest. So the people were starving. I guess Kwjian is an agrarian world with little technology. I mean, you’d think they could plant crops further from the ocean. They have an entire planet, after all.   Anyway, they couldn’t solve this problem on their own, for whatever reason, so the Emerald Chain came along and promised to help. They had a humane way to send the locusts back into the sea. In exchange, the people of Kwejin had to give Osyrra their trance worms. (the same worms that Book has made a career of recovering and returning home)   This seems to be the way the chain operates.  They make reckless contact with pre-warp civilisations that have something they want. Vance is aware of 50 other systems in the same predicament. Vance doesn’t have enough ships to help them all and he doesn’t want to risk the spore drive on this.   These episodes all seem to fall into the same pattern lately. Michael goes to Vance with a mission she has some personal stake in. He refuses. Then Saru says something diplomatic and he agrees. It hasn’t bothered me until now, but this time, it’s starting to feel a little repetitive.  We check back in with Tolor, Osyraa’s nephew. And we get a glimpse of a Star Trek Picard era combadge. It has no meaning to the scene whatsoever, but, I’m a sucker for a familiar com badge, so … cool, I guess.   And we finally get to see Osyraa for the first time. She is played suitably menacingly by Janet Kidder, who interestingly, is the niece of the late Margot Kidder, famous for playing Lois Lane opposite Christopher Reeve. So that’s cool.   Osyraa is ticked off that Tolor lost Ryn. Which kinda surprises him. To Tolor, Ryn was just a nameless Andorian slave. But Osyraa has a very special interest in him.   The episode doesn’t outright say it, but we get the impression Osyraa killed her brother, Tolor’s father, in order to take control of the Emerald Chain. So it comes as no surprise that she’s willing to kill Tolor for his failure. She uses the tranceworms for overly dramatic executions. Apparently, they’re so-named because they mesmerise their prey before eating them. She promises he won’t feel a thing, but his screams suggest a different story.   Tilly is settling into her job as acting first officer. Saru is trying to come up with a catch-phrase to instruct the crew to carry out their orders. He says that “hit it” was Captain Pike’s. Well, .. Star Trek 2009 had him saying “punch it” and Discovery had him saying “hit it.” But if you look back at The Cage, Captain Pike was actually the first to say “Engage.” The current Star Trek writers seem to associate this word solely with Picard. But, “Engage” is not really a personal catchphrase. That’s the order captain’s give when they want to go to warp. Pike said it, Picard said it, and I’m sure Janeway and Sisko at least said it occasionally.   Now, Picard DID have a catch-phrase of his own. “Make it so.” That was used in a different context. He said that when he wanted his subordinates to carry out their orders.   This episode seems to be confusing those two concepts together. I guess it mildly amusing at times, but I found it all a little too meta for my liking.   So while Michael is distracted helping Book, Stamets and Adira have solved the mystery of the burn’s origin. It started in the Verubin Nebula. Apparently, combining the SP-19 data with the black boxes has revealed this. But … the Vulcan representative last week said that the SP-19 data conclusively proved that the burn started at Ni’var. This episode doesn’t address that. It doesn’t even mention it. They need to deal with this, or it becomes a massive plot hole. Somehow, I don’t think they’ll address it, sadly.   And there’s a transmission coming from that nebula. It’s the song everyone has been hearing. Interesting.   Apparently, Saru listens with his eyes, because as he’s intently listening to the music, his pupils dilate. He can hear something else coming from the nebula, in addition to the music. A federation distress signal.   Apparently, there is a third message as well, which Adira can decode by writing an algorithm. Stamets volunteers her.   And Adira tells him that she would prefer to be addressed as “they” rather than “she”. So I’ll follow the episode’s lead and refer to the character this way from now on.   Book explains that Kyheem is not his biological brother. “Brother is something we said, we felt,” he says. I’m really not sure what he means by this, but it appears to me that perhaps the two of them are maybe in a religious order or some sort together. Maybe not quite religious. It’s not well explained, but we’ll get to that later in the episode. But their relationship was damaged when Kyheem started hunting tranceworms for the chains, which obviously would have put them at odds.   It seems the nacelles aren't always detached. They can join and separate. They attach during spore jump and then detach after they arrive. Apparently, Discovery has a music room. Which makes sense. IT would be one of many recreation areas on the ship. I kinda like that there’s a place where the crew can just go and jam together.   Adira reveals to Stamets that Gray is not talking to them anymore. No idea why. This is interesting. We still don’t really understand what caused Gray to manifest like that in the first place, so understanding why it’s no longer happening will be difficult. But it’s clearly got Adira upset. Which is understandable.   But on top of that, Adira is really struggling with being joined and having all these memories of previous hosts. Ezri Dax went through a similar thing after she was joined. Waking up and not knowing who she was. In Ezri’s case, she wasn’t prepared for it.    Adira didn’t have any training either. The Trill offered it but they turned it down.  Stamets can’t really solve that problem, but he can spend time with Adira. So they play some music together. Apparently, Stammets can play piano. It’s a nice little scene.   So Ryn is recovered from his injuries, and is still onboard Discovery. I like when Tilly corrects his attitude and makes him show a little more respect for Saru’s rank. He wants to get off the ship. He says something very interesting. “Federation help always comes with strings.” Tilly is very quick to say “No it doesn’t.” But, of course, she only knows so much about the Federation of the 32nd century. Ryn is not the only character in this episode to express similar sentiments. So why does the Federation have this reputation, and is it in any way justified?   Saru is happy for Ryn to beam down to Kwejian, if that is his wish, but it may be a dangerous thing to do, given that Osyraa’s ship will be here in 15 minutes. And again, Ryn thinks the worst when Saruy says “however,” but he’s only looking out for Ryn’s interests.   The sea locusts are interesting. They float in the air with bladders like hot air balloons. It’s funny. I recently watched the first episode of a documentary on Netflix called Alien Worlds. The show uses a lot of imagination to speculate, based on observations of life on earth, what life on other planets might be like. There was a species in that first episode very much like these sea locusts. Of course, they were predators, whereas the sea locusts are herbivores. That’s the problem. They’re feeding on the people’s crops.   Given how many locusts there are, so far inland, the planet has apparently not had any repellent for weeks. Book can talk to them using his super nature powers. To be honest, I’d almost forgotten he had that ability. He seems to have a way to commune with other lifeforms. He can ask them to go, but it’s up to them if they agree.   These do, and they float away. But trying to convince all of them to retreat, on a planetary scale, is something that has eluded Kewjian’s scientists.   Book and Michael are in an area called the sanctuary. Not sure why. But it’s protected by a field that prevents sensors or transporters. So they’re completely on their own. Kyheem arrives with armed guards. He doesn’t look very welcoming of his brother, who he calls Tareckx. Apparently, Book changed his name at some point. So they’re led away at gunpoint.   Georgiou goes into sickbay for a scan. She seems a little more cooperative now. Both Culbert and Pollard are working on her. I really wish they’d just tell us who the chief medical officer on this blooming ship is. It’s so frustrating.   Anyway, Georgiou has one of her episodes while they’re scanning her, and everything goes a bit weird. The two doctors are pretty freaked out. And Georgiou’s face kind of… turns into a rough polygon model, like an early 90s computer game. My wife had a theory, that after her interrogation a few episodes back, Georgiou was replaced with a hologram. This visual effect would seem to be evidence for that theory, but it would have to be an insanely sophisticated hologram. One that could fool all the sensors on Discovery into thinking she was human. But .. this is the 32nd century. I dunno. But it seems that having an episode while in the scan is endangering her life. Pollard wants to stop but Culbert wants the data so they can diagnose her condition. It’s an ethical dilemma that is not explored at all. Which is a pity. But she wakes up and pulls out of the scan herself. So …. Was the scan completed or not? The episode doesn’t make that clear. But when Georgiou hacks into her medical records, she comes to the conclusion that she is dying. Culbert says it’s not that simple, we don’t hear anything more that is said between them.   So Kyheem’s job, officially, is to protect the tranceworms. But he’s doing the opposite.  And there’s a lot of bad blood between him and Book. Book left once his family started working with the Emerald Chain. So the reason Kyheem called Book here is that Osyraa wants Ryn. She’s stopped repelling the locusts and will only resume when they have over Ryn.   Saru notes the irony that the Orions are now enslaving so many people, given that many of them, particularly their females, were sold as slaves in the past. In reality, slavery is nothing new to the Orion people.   I like the actor that plays Kyheem. He does a great job. I’m not an acting expert, so I don’t think I can elaborate on that in any more detail, but I like his performance.   Osyraa wants to swap Book for Ryn, but Kyheem is hesitant to hand him over. So Osyraa threatens famine and starts shooting. Seriously, doesn’t this planet have replicators? And if they’re a pre-warp civilisation, how did Book leave? Where did he get his ship? Book IS human, more or less. He said so in episode 1. That makes me think this is a colony world.   At first I thought Osyraa was shooting up their crops, but it seems she is shooting the defense shield so she can beam Book up. But then, that will allow Discovery to beam him up too. It’s all a bit confusing.   Saru wants to know why Ryn is so important to Osyraa. But he refuses to answer. Until later in the episode when he’ll randomly decide to tell Tilly for no reason.   Saru is in a difficult situation. He’s under orders not to get into a shooting war with the Emerald Chain. Such an act will have repercussions for the entire Federation. But what choice does he have? Until Tilly comes up with an alternative. Fire on her from Book’s ship. Pretend it is under control of a pilot gone rogue, who will be severely punished. AT first, I thought she was suggesting herself, but then it becomes clear she’s setting up poor Detmer. That seems a pretty harsh thing to put Detmer through. It could be damaging to her career because you can bet Vance will want to know who fired.   Anyway, she gets to show off her piloting skills in a pretty impressive space battle, with a little help from Ryn. I think this will go a long way to helping her regain her confidence, as she proves to herself what she can do.   Detmer is now officially a character now, rather than just set dressing. It’s only taken two seasons. I’m really liking what they’re letting her do this season.   She’s successful. She damages Osyraa’s ship enough that Osytraa leaves the system. But she clearly blames the Federation for this, so did they really achieve anything by using Book’s ship instead of Discovery? I don’t think that makes a difference at all. Osyraa vows that the Federation will feel the full weight of the chain. And that’s worrying.   Kyheem just couldn’t bring himself to hand over his brother, after a great hand-to-hand fight scene. Now that Osyraa is gone, he faces the fact that his people will starve.   But Michael has a plan. Both Book and Kyheem have super magic nature powers. They’ll work together to ask as many locusts as possible to retreat to the ocean. And Discovery will use technobabble to amplify the signal across the whole planet.   There is definitely something that feels religious about their powers. The brothers use ritualised moments and chant in an alien language, using words like sacred and harmony. As they do this, their foreheads glow with some kind of glyph.   Tilly has a chat with Ryn. He’s worried about Osyraa’s retaliation. All his life, growing up, he was taught about how deceitful the Federation was. They were the boogeyman they scared their kids with.   So now, is when Ryn decides to reveal his secret. The one he told Saru that he couldn’t share. No idea why he couldn’t share, and no idea why he suddenly can now.   The emerald chain are running out of dilithium. I’m not sure why this should be a big secret. Dilithium is scarce. Everyone is running out. Also, apparently, Ryn is the only one who knows. That’s why Osyraa wanted him back, so he wouldn’t tell anybody. Which makes no sense. The minute Ryn escaped on a Federation starship, Osyraa should have considered this information compromised.    Book admits to Kyheem that although Kwejian is home, Discovery, and Starfleet, are where differences are being made, and he’s liking being around them, which definitely gets Michael to perk her ears up. He says there’s a story about why he calls himself Book. A story he doesn’t want to tell right now. Okay.   Anyway, he was serious about the Federation. He wants in. What that means exactly, I’m not sure. Is he wanting to join Starfleet? OR just stick around and help them as a civilian advisor? I guess next week will reveal that.   So that was The Sanctuary. There were a lot of parts I liked about it, but much of it didn’t hold well together for me. But it plays well into the larger story, so as always, it’ll be interesting to see where it’s all leading. I’m especially looking forward to them digging deeper into the burn, now they know where it originated. Next week’s episode is called Terra Firma Part 1. In this serialised age of story-telling, it’s not often that a show does a traditional two-parter, but I guess the next two episodes will be even more connected than usual.  It should be exciting.   Thanks again for sticking with Nerd Heaven over the last year. Have a piece of cake. Calories don’t count at a birthday party, right?   Don’t forget you can get my sci-fi Christmas short story, The Christmas Star Disaster on all the major ebook retailers for just 99 cents. And you can get the prequel to my Jewel of The Stars series, Fall of The HMAS Adelaide, for free, by signing up to my email list at adamdavidcollings.com/free   Have a great week. Live long and prosper.   Make it so. And happy birthday

Commander Burnham goes searching for seeds while Emperor Georgiou makes a new friend. Join your horticulturally-inclined hosts as they discuss the warm comforts of classic Trek-style storytelling, debate the chain of command, and consider the architectural drawbacks of programmable matter. Spoiler warning! We dive right into a detail-rich discussion of this episode, so if you haven't had a chance to see it yet – beware! Next week: Book is back, and so are those 'Running Man'-style exploding-head fences! Note that this and all episodes of the It's Got Star Trek podcast contain explicit language and, frankly, an unnecessary amount of offensive content, so the show is intended only for adults and really really cool kids. Check out the Feedspot list of Top 60 Star Trek Podcasts for 2020. Please utilize one of the following options if you have an interest in contacting your hosts: Email us at feedback@itsgotstartrek.com Twitter us @ItsGotStarTrek Instagramaphone us @ItsGotStarTrek Facebookify us @ItsGotStarTrek Watch a static image while listening to the podcast on YouTube Telephone us at 202-456-1414 You can also visit www.itsgotstartrek.com and leave a comment or head on over to the It's Got Everything subreddit to join the discussion. Don't say we didn't give you options here!

It’s FIRST SEANTACT as Sean Davis (who somehow hasn’t been on to talk about a Discovery episode yet) joins Jack and Barm to talk about the wacky continuing adventures of Captain Saru, Jett Reno, Emperor Georgiou and other classic characters after Disco reopened the wormhole.  Along the way, we’ll wax nostalgic for “boring Star Trek”, see how far we can stretch Sean’s “Trek is Manifest Destiny” analogy, ponder the mysteries of personal transporters, and OMG Michael Burnham is a beautiful angel sent from heaven that I love so much

This week on A Command of her Own, Jenn and Cait discuss Star Trek Discovery, The Wolf Inside. Jenn and Cait are very excited for the return of a certain character! Tilly takes charge! Surprise! Tyler is a klingon! Who Knew? Not us. We worship at the feet of Emperor Georgiou! Get in touch and […]