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Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2021 29:57

The season finale of Star Trek Discovery Season 3 is here, aptly titled "That Hope is You Part 2." We learn the full and complete truth behind the cause of the burn, and we see a resolution to the Emerald Chain / Osyraa plot. My response is mostly positive to this episode. I was happier with the cause of the burn than I think a lot of people will be, but let's dig in and talk about the episode. ----more---- Transcript Welcome to Nerd Heaven I’m Adam David Collings, the author of Jewel of The Stars And I am a Nerd This is episode 50 of the podcast. Today, we’re talking about the season finale of Star Trek Discovery Season 3. That Hope is You Part 2. The last 13 weeks have been a wild ride. I certainly feel this has been a strong season, the best that the modern Trek era has given us so far. The description on Memory Alpha reads As the Emerald Chain tightens its grip and the mystery of the Burn is finally solved, Burnham and the crew have one last chance to save themselves – and the Federation. (Season Finale) This episode was written by Michelle Paradise It was directed by Olantunde Osunsanmi And it first aired on the 7th of January 2021. Make it so. While I was watching the teaser to this episode, before the opening titles had even shown, I turned to my wife and said “I know who directed this episode.” First time I’ve ever picked up on a director from their style. Olantunde Osunsanmi likes to do weird things with the camera, film stuff upside down and have the camera rotate around as the scene goes. Sometimes it’s a bit much for me. I feel that if the filmmaking draws too much attention to itself, it pulls me out of the story. But there were some moments in this episode where I found it effective. We open with a beautiful shot of a gormagander flying through the skies of the simulated environment on Su’kal’s planet. We saw them in the background two episodes ago, but we get confirmation here that they are actually gormaganders. Space whales. I think they look awesome. We encountered them in season 1 but didn’t really get to see them in full flight like this. The holographic narrator explains that gormaganders have spent more time on the Federation’s endangered list than any other species. However, this image is of a pup found in 3052, so that gives me hope that the species may be starting to recover by the 32nd century. Su’kal is still unwilling to listen to Saru talk about his true nature. Saru has to tread very carefully with him. If he causes Su’kal too much emotional distress, he may trigger another burn, and that could destroy what remains of the Federation. It’s a tricky situation. Saru’s greatest resource in this struggle is his Kelpien nature. But how does he convince the young man of his true species, when the holodeck has made him look human? (and I talked two weeks ago about how illogical it was that the holodeck made him look human, assigning seemingly random species to everybody.) And then Adira shows up. This is the first time Culbert and Saru have seen her, so we’re backtracking a little in time, this is probably happening whiler Michael and Book are hurtling through the transwarp corridor at the start of last week’s episode. The holodeck has made Adira look Xahean. Nice little callback to season 2. Adira gives them the medicine. It won’t cure them but it’ll buy them time until they can be rescued. And then the real shock. Gray appears - looking like a Vulcan. And Culbert and Saru can see him. The holodeck recognises Gray as a separate independent lifeform, which is fascinating. The nature of Gray is still a big mystery, and it’s not resolved in this episode. We’ll have to look forward to season 4 for further exploration of this. But the fact that the holodeck recognises Grayt as a lifeform tells us something. It’s very interesting. And I love the way Culbert and Gray react to each other. Gray is so thrilled to be seen. And Culbert embraces him like a long-lost son. It’s pretty cool. It’s so weird so see him in full Vulcan makeup, but with blue hair and a big smile on his face. It seems that Gray can experience some form of sensation because when Culbert hugs him, he feels it. 32nd century holograms would be much more advanced than those we saw in the 24th century, so I can buy that. Meanwhile, a battle rages at Starfleet headquarters. The Veridian is bombarding the shield. I imagine it won’t hold forever. Voyager is ordered to fire on the Veridian. Nice to hear it referenced again. All other ships are ordered to fire on Discovery. IT seems Vance is very willing to sacrifice that ship and crew to safeguard the rest of Starfleet. And as horrible as it is, I do understand that. Even taking the spore drive into account, it’s a numbers game. All hope for negotiation is gone at this point. As soon as Booker told Osyraa about the dilithium planet, she no longer needed the Federation. Book is no longer willing to help her get to the planet, because she killed Ryn last week. It was sad to see him go, but he was the logical choice to die. Not a regular or semi-regular, but not a redshirt either. That meant his death hurt more. Osyraa has a truth serum so she doesn’t need Book to be cooperative. So because Vance wouldn’t accept her proposed peace, and because she no longer needs them, she’s gone from wanting to ally with the Federation, to wanting to obliterate them completely. Out of spite. Tilly and the bridge crew’s rebellion is going well, but it’s short-lived because Osyraa is turning off life-support on their section of the ship. Not much they can do about that. Starfleet headquarters are about to lose their shield. Stammets appears, begging Vance to let him return to Discovery so they can rescue Saru, Culbert and Adira. Sadly for him, Vance agrees with Michael. They have to keep Stammets far away from Discovery, to ensure Osyraa doesn’t learn the secrets of the spore drive. I’m not sure Vance speaks with enough compassion when he says “I know what you’re sacrificing here. I’m sorry.” But then he’s in the middle of a desperate battle and the shield is going down. He did well to be able to speak with Stammets at all given the circumstances. And that’s when the Vulcans arrive. A fleet from Ni’var. I called it last week. Michael sent a good-bye message to her mother, so Gabriel got Ni’Var to send the cavalry. Michael convinces Osyraa to let her hail Vance. She tries to talk Vance into letting them go. They can afford to lose the spore drive as long as Stammets is safely hidden away. The way she locks eyes with Vance through the viewscreen and says “Trust me” suggests some hidden communication between them. Michael has a plan. She needs him to let Discovery go so she can implement it. Vance isn’t happy, but he lets them go. But Osyraa won’t give the bridge crew their life support back. “They had their chance,” she says. Osyraa needs Aurellio to provide the truth serum. He’s not so willing to cooperate. He’s seen what Osyra is capable of. And the use of the drug, combined with Book’s empathic abilities, will make the experience excruciating. Aurellio doesn’t want to inflict that kind of pain on Book. Autellio is a good man. We learn a little about how Orion physiology differs from human. Like a lot of characters in sci-fi TV, they may look similar to humans, but under the skin, there are a lot of differences. But all of this is a metaphor for Osyraa’s feelings. Her moral compass. It’s much more complicated than Aurellio’s. In other words, she can find ways to mentally justify all sorts of horrible things in her mind. I suspected, last week, that Aurellio was Osyraa’s husband. That seems not to be the case. She refers to “his family.” Not “our family.” She’s fond of him, but she keeps him around because he’s useful to her. Zareh says this is a no-win scenario for Michael, but she replies that she doesn’t believe in those, which is a direct reference to Kirk. It was a little bit on the nose for me. That’s Kirk’s thing. Give Michael her own thing. This is when Michael starts to implement her plan. She pretends to give in, to want to convince Book to tell Osyraa what she wants to know, but as soon as she’s close to him, she attacks the regulators, taking their phasers and activating a forcefield. She and book are now separated. And they run off into the ship. To reboot the ship’s computer, and restore the crew’s command codes, somebody has to be present at the data core. Not sure that makes sense, logically, but it works for dramatic tension. We learn why Michael couldn’t beam with her com badge last week. The emerald chain have got transport inhibitors on the ship. Okay. That makes more sense. And I see why they’d do that from a story-telling perspective. If Michael could beam anywhere, she wouldn’t have had to crawl around the ship, and that was half the fun of last week’s episode. Michael sends a cryptic message to Tilly. She wants the crew to set off an explosion on the warp nacelle. It’ll knock Discovery out of warp. The dots can’t do it because of reasons, so it has to be done by a human. We learn that Owo can hold her breath for a long time. Growing up on her home planet, she used to dive for abalone in the underwater caves. I believe they dive for abalone here in Tasmania. Anyway, that makes her well suited for this mission. Meanwhile Michael and Book are gonna head for the data core. But annoyingly, we get yet another reference to people consuming synthahol a century before it will be invented. Saru speaks to Su’kal of Kelpien cuisine. He admits he is a Kelpien, but has no proof to offer. But you can see in Su’kal’s face that he’s mulling it all over. Su’kal admits he has noticed that the Holo sometimes changes things. We learn why Su’kal is so hesitant to talk about the outside. The holo told him the Federation would come from outside to rescue him. But they never came. It’s almost like he’s lost his faith because he feels let down. Of course, the Federation have come now. Just not as soon as Su’kal was hoping. This gives Saru an opening to explain the burn to him. Now he has Su’kal’s attention. He wants to understand because this is his life. Saru can relate to Su’kal’s hesitance to leave the only world he’s known. He had to choose to leave Kaminar all those years ago. He’s getting through to him in a way that nobody else could. Whatever is behind the locked door that terrifies Su’kal, he has to face it. The monster from the folk tale is trying to help him. To encourage him to face his fear. But Su’kal isn’t ready to believe that. He wants to see the elder. Culbert and Adira need to explore outside the edge of the simulation but the radiation is too strong out there. Lucky for them, they have holo-gray. Radiation can’t hurt him because he doesn’t have a real body. Of course, he’s also holographic, so his body shouldn’t work outside the simulation. Bit of a plot hole there. But maybe it works. The ship they’re on has holographic emitters. Holograms can probably be sustained anywhere on the ship, not just within the confines of the simulation. Culbert explains his theory about Su’kal. He believes that because he was born on this planet, his body was adjusted to be able to interact with dilithium in unique ways. Dilithium has a subspace component. Su’kal’s scream traveled at the resonant frequency of dilithium’s subspace components. That’s what hit every ship’s warp core during the burn. Whatever happened to him 125 years ago was much worse than whatever upset him today. Gray learns that the ship is falling apart. They need Su’kal to help them, and they need him to do it now. Unfortunately, the elder is gone. The program is degrading. The Elder’s stories calmed Su’kal. But he doesn’t have that anymore. In a nice tender moment, Saru explains “you have us. You are not alone.” Michael and Book are still making their way to the data core. We get an extended action sequence through the turbo shafts. Discovery’s shuttles don’t travel through a shaft as such, they float through open space, through rings that kinda appear and disappear as needed. It looks pretty cool. But is it logical? My issue with this is there is so much wide empty space inside the ship for the turbolifts to fly through, that just isn’t needed. This whole sequence felt very Star Wars. Star Wars favours what looks cool over what is logical. You know, you’ll have characters fighting with lightsabers, surrounded by all this cool looking technology which looks awesome but doesn’t appear to have any meaningful reason to exist. Think of the duel between Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon and Darth Maul in Episode 1. This turbolift sequence looked great. It was cool and fun, but I had to suspend my disbelief a bit more than I feel I should when watching Star Trek. Anyway, Michael arrives at the data core. But Osyraa has gone there to meet her. So we get our obligatory season finale fist-fight between the hero and the villain. And it’s another great action scene. We get to see Book kill Zareh while Michael takes on Osyraa. Meanwhile, Owo makes it to the nacelle and sets off the explosion. The dot rescues her just before the explosion, essentially sacrificing itself. The episode plays the loss of the dot as a significant thing. But it’s just an avatar. It’s not like the destruction of this robot is gonna mean the death of the sphere data AI. We see last year how impossible it was to completely destroy that data. The reboot Michael is trying to perform won’t do it. If it were that simple, they’d have just reboot the computer last year, rather than travelling into the future. Osyraa almost kills Michael by pushing her into this weird well of programmable matter. It reminded me of Superman 3 actually, that scene that seemed so creepy when I was a kid, when the woman gets eaten by the computer and turned into a cyborg. Completely ridiculous of course. And way, Michael shoots out of the wall, kills Osytraa and escapes. It was an odd ending to the fight, but again, it looked cool. So the ship is rebooted. Starfleet are now in command again, life support is back up, and the ship is out of warp, so reinforcements can catch up. They still have a problem, though. Discovery has been sucked inside the Veridian. Michael has an idea about that, and Tilly tells her to implement it, effectively putting Michael in command. She is the ranking officer on the ship. Even though Tilly is first officer. She’s gonna blow up the Veridian by ejecting Discovery’s warp core. But how will Discovery not be destroyed as well? The only way is to jump away. Stammets can navigate the jump because he has tardigrade DNA. But Aurellio thinks Book can do it as well, because of his magic nature powers. Makes sense. It’s a nice little development, in my opinion. Book gives us a little hint as to his back-story. We learned weeks ago that Cleaveland Booker isn’t his real name. Apparently, it was the name of his mentor. He took that name and tries to live up to it every day. Interesting. Jumping the ship is proving harder for Book than they’d hoped. Michael keeps telling him to jump, but nothing happens. Then the Veridian explodes. This is fake tension. We know they’re not gonna destroy the discovery and kill all the crew. So I kinda wish they’d just shown discovery jumping away. Don’t get me wrong. The lead-up to the explosion was wonderfully tense. But the fake-out didn’t work for me. We learn what Su’kal is really afraid of. It’s turning off the holo. Behind the door are the holo controls. He hasn’t been in here since he was a child. Gray is afraid. Once the holo is turned off, he’ll disappear. Adira will still be able to see him, but that’s not enough for him. Again, I like how Culbert comforts him. “We’ve got you gray. We’ll find a way to help you be truly seen” This moment, as Su’kal goes to deactivate the holo is the emotional heart of the episode, of the season, really. Once the program has ended, we find that we’re not in a holodeck as such, just a normal room on the ship. I understand that in the 32nd century, holograms can be projected anywhere, so in one sense, they don’t need a holodeck as such, but it’s still practical to have a dedicated room. I mean, shouldn’t they have been tripping over chairs and things? The holodeck uses force fields to keep you in a confined area during the simulation. I suppose this could be done anywhere on the ship but it just seems a little impractical. But for story-telling reasons, it makes sense for them to be here. Where they can immediately see Su’kal’s mother. (although it would have made sense for her to have died in the holodeck, as she activated the program for her son.) Su’kal’s next order is a brave one. “Computer, show me what happened here, so I can be free.” But his new friends have prepared him for this moment. So Su’kal’s mother had already put him in the simulation. So he didn’t have to watch her die. She told him not to touch the controls until the federation arrive. But he turned off the simulation. He saw everyone dead but his mother. And she was really sick from radiation poisoning. The poor kid watches his mother die in front of him, and he screams like he’s never screamed before. He sends out the shockwave that causes the burn. I suspected this would be the case. Saru tells him he is no longer alone. And then Su’kal turns around to see Saru in his Kelpien form. It’s a beautiful moment. Saru just gained a brother. So. Now we know the full complete details about what caused the burn. What do I think about it? I suspect many will not like it. Two weeks ago, many were saying “is that it? A Kelpien child screaming?” And I can understand that from a certain perspective, it could feel anticlimactic. Like a weak payoff. But you know what. As I think about it, I think there’s a real poignance to the entire galaxy being ripped apart by the heartfelt anguish of a child seeing its mother die. And the sentimental family man in me really likes it. So … I’m good with this. I like it. This is definitely the best pay-off that Star Trek Discovery (or Picard) has given us. So this is very much a positive response from me. It’s very emotional. Very character-focussed. Anyway, Discovery arrives just in time to rescue them. And they return to Starfleet headquarters. The epilogue of the episode kinda ties together everything into a common theme. The human need to connect. Gray feels that very strongly. Su’kal felt that need growing up all alone with nothing but holograms to keep him company. The various scattered worlds have felt it on a global scale, the need to connect with the rest of the galaxy. This is hit home at the very end with a quote from Gene Roddenberry. “In a very real sense, we are all aliens on a strange planet. We spend most of our lives reaching out and trying to communicate. If during our whole lifetime we could reach out and really communicate with just two people, we are indeed very fortunate.” Stammets is very happy to be reunited with Culbert and Gray. He gives Michael a look. It’s not quite a complete forgiveness of what she did, but I think there is some genuine gratitude that she rescues them. I think it’ll take a while for these two to regain their former friendship. But I think it’ll happen. It was nice to see little glimpses of Doctor Pollard and Jet Reno. The emerald chain has fractured without Osyraa. That kinda feels a little sudden. But thinking about it, a fractured chain could be worse. A whole lot of independent mercenaries out there just looking to their own interests. But it’s nice to see the Federation beginning to rebuild. The Trill have returned and the Vulcans and Romulans of Ni’var are considering it. Saru is taking some time off, helping Su’kal settle in on Kaminar. He is reportedly wanting to consider his future, which I suppose means he’s not sure he wants to remain in Starfleet. I’m not sure I buy that. He loves his homeworld and he’ll be very happy to see it again. He’ll always have a bond with Su’kal, but Starfleet is his life. His passion. And it’s wonderful to finally see Sahil, the lone guy on the Federation outpost from the first episode of this season. He’s now been commissioned as a Starfleet Officer with the rank of Lieutenant. I really wanted to see him again. It would be nice if we see more of him next season. And that’s when Vance has a heart to heart with Michael. First, nice to know Vance is a family man. He has a wife and daughter, off somewhere else where they’re safe. I love that. Vance has come to respect Michael’s unique way of doing things. Michael, and the other Discovery crew have had to wrestle with how to live in this new time more than the people who are native to it, because she came from a different time. That allowed Michael to see new ways of doing things. And she has taught Vance a thing or two. Now I have very mixed feelings about what happens next. Vance offers Michael command of Discovery. Apparently it’s Saru who wants Michael to be the captain. But Vance agrees. She’s a little hesitant, but Vance needs somebody commanding that ship now. There is an important job to be done. The dilithium from that planet needs to be distributed around the galaxy to those that need it. Only Discovery can carry out that mission. So Michael accepts. So we now have captain Michael Burnham of the USS Discovery. Now on one hand, I like this. Michael has what it takes to be a captain. She wasn’t ready when Georgiou first suggested it back in The Vulcan Hello, but she’s learned a lot since then. She’s grown up a lot. And this effectively solves what I’ve been calling the Michael Burnham problem. The idea that we have a lead of this show, who isn’t the captain of the ship, so they have to make everything be about her, because they have to constantly justify the fact that she is the lead character. With her in the captain’s chair, well, it works just like any other Star Trek show. his is good for Michael’s character. It’s the next logical step for her arc. So I like that. But what about Captain Saru. I’ve loved Captain Saru this season. His arc throughout the whole season has been him learning to be a better captain. If he’s no longer going to be captain then it feels like that was all for nothing. And I hate that. I don’t want Saru to leave the show. And I know he’s returning for season 4, which they’re filming right now. And I definitely don’t want him to get demoted down to serving under captain Burnham. So where does that leave his character? Command of another ship? That could work, but it would probably mean we’d see less of him next season as the show would follow Burnham on Discovery. This leaves me with great concerns for how Saru’s character will be treated next season, and I’m not happy about it. So like I said. Mixed feelings. It IS cool to see that the Discovery crew are finally wearing the new Starfleet uniforms. So looking at the crew’s colours, Culbert is in white for medical. MAkes sense. Stammets is in science blue. Obviously. Tilly is also in science blue. She was technically engineering when she first started, I believe. I wonder what this means for her position as first officer. Will she serve as Michael’s number one? If so, she should probably be in command red. Although maybe she’ll be like spock and have a joint position as science officer and first officer. If they do keep her as first officer, that should at least promote her to Lieutenant. Realistically, she should be at least Lieutenant Commander to be first officer. Detmer and Owo are both in engineering yellow, which is kinda weird. Owo might make sense, as operations tends to be yellow. But I’d expect Detmer, as helm officer, to be in red. But maybe the colours work a little different in the 32nd century than they did in the 24th. It has been a very long time. And another surprise. Adira is in Starfleet uniform. So have they been fast-tracked through Starfleet academy given prior experience in the earth defence force? Maybe. Maybe Adira will be a cadet serving on Discovery kinda like Tilly was in season 1. Book is also on the bridge, but not in uniform. The episode, and the season, ends with a classic Star Trek fanfare, and then the TOS theme playing over the ending credits. I’m not sure ths TOS theme fits as well here as it did with the last two seasons, but I think it’s meant to signify that Starfleet of the 32nd century are returning to former ideals of exploration and peaceful coexistence. Next season should prove interesting. I’m very keen to learn what it will be about. I wonder when we’ll get our first trailer. Not for a while. But I assume we’ll get a few verbal tidbits from Alex Kurtzman or Michelle Paradise at some point. So that was Star Trek Discovery season 3. As I said at the start, I thought it was a very strong season. The best so far. I really enjoyed it. Discovery has well and truly established itself as a Star Trek show next to all the others at this point. I nitpic things from time to time, but no Star Trek show has ever been perfect. But the last 13 weeks have been a wonderful experience. Well. That was quite a ride. It’s been a lot of work putting together weekly podcasts in a timely manner. I’m glad I moved my release date from Saturdays to Mondays, because it just took a little of the pressure off. But I’m looking forward to taking it a little bit easier now that I won’t be covering a show airing for the first time. I’ve mentioned it a couple of times before, but starting next episode, I’m going to begin covering Stargate Universe. It’s a show that not a lot of podcasters or youTubers have talked about. It’s actually a pretty divisive show, a little like Discovery. I’m going to move back to a fortnightly schedule. I’ll do my first Stargate episode next week, and then I’ll be back the week after as well, because I’ll be covering the 3-part pilot over a course of two episodes, But then I’ll be taking my first week off. From that point, we’ll be on the fortnightly schedule. I hope you’ll continue to join me into the future, but if Stargate isn’t your thing and you want to part ways here, then thank you very much for joining me through Star Trek Discovery. This certainly won’t be the last time we cover Star Trek on Nerd Heaven. I’ve always loved Star Trek. It’s my primary fandom. Anyway, There’s a lot of very cool stuff to talk about in Stargate Universe. In a lot of ways, it was ahead of its time. It feels very much like a modern sci-fi show. It was heavily influenced by Battlestar Galactica, which, in a way, has shaped all sci-fi TV ever since, including both Discovery and Picard. I’ll be here next week to talk about the episodes Air Parts 1 and 2. Until then, have a great week. Live long and prosper. Make it so.

Star Trek Discovery "Su'Kal" Detailed Analysis & Review

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2020 24:44

We're in the final 3 episodes of Star Trek Discovery Season 3 now. The crew enter the Verebin Nebula to rescue a Kelpien survivor and learn the source of The Burn. This episode gets a little wacky with the away team, but also gives us some real growth for Tilly as she takes the captain's chair for the first time. ----more---- Transcript Welcome to Nerd Heaven. I’m Adam David Collings, the author of Jewel of The Stars And I am a Nerd This is episode 48 of the podcast And today, we’re talking about the Star Trek Discovery episode “Su’kal” This episode actually came out on the 25th of December in Australia, so I spend my Christmas night watching Star Trek. Not a bad way to round off a happy Christmas actually. The description of Memory alpha reads Discovery ventures to the Verubin Nebula, where Burnham, Saru, and Culber make a shocking realization about the origin of The Burn as the rest of the crew faces an unexpected threat. This episode was written by Anne Cofell Saunders It was directed by Norma Bailey And it first aired on the 24th of December 2020 Make it so. This is a bit of an unusual episode, which took a few unexpected twists and turns, but it was still pretty good. It’s got some thrills near the end, some growth for some of our characters, and some kinda weird but fun stuff with the away team. We pick up right where we left off last week. Our characters are still at Georgiou’s memorial. Adira is feeling a bit left out. Everyone here seemed to know Georgiou. They’ve all been through so much together. They all came from the 23rd century together. Adira is the odd one out. A native of the 32nd century. Not a Starfleet officer. Stammets tries to reassure them that they’re still a part of this crew. The crew are all here for you. Culbert and I are here for you. And then Gray shows up. He hasn’t appeared to Adira in a long time. With no explanation. I like how Stammets says into the empty air “You’re lucky we’re at a memorial service because otherwise, I’d be giving you a piece of my mind.” I really like how Stammets just takes this thing at face value, and doesn’t treat Adira like they’re crazy. He can’t see Gray, but he believes he’s there and even addresses him from time to time. But in hindsight, it’s occurred to me that it may have been a good idea to recommend a medical examination, just in case, to make sure Adira isn’t hallucinating. I mean, the disembodied soul of a former Trill host appearing in a form only the new host can see is not exactly out of the range of possibility in the Star Trek universe, but it might not be the only explanation. For all Stammets knows, Adira could have schizophrenia, which is probably not something you want to leave untreated. I don’t think that’s what is happening here, but it’s probably a good thing to rule out. Anyway. Gray explains why he’s been absent. He’s struggling with the whole disoconnected aspect of his existence. He has consciousness. He has emotions. But nobody but Adira can see him. He can’t interact with anybody else. That’s not what life is supposed to be. It’s like he’s stuck in limbo, a ghost that can’t move on. This is a very believable reaction to his situation. And I’m glad the show is addressing it, allowing Gray to feel this way and struggle with it. That’s some emotional realism right there. The kind that I like characters to have. He also admits that his struggles are no excuse for simple vanishing without an explanation. He could have explained this to Adira before he vanished. Admira promise they’ll work this out together. Somehow. With this nice little character moment done, we launch right into the main plot of the episode. they’ve recovered some new data from the Kelpien ship. There’s a life sign. Saru reverals the Kelpien doctor was pregnant. That’s what the marks on her head were about. Not sure why he kept this to himself but anyway. Her child, now an adult, is still alive on that ship. So they jump into the Verubin nebula, which looks awesome. I’ve learned, through a little research while writing Jewel of the Stars book 1, that if you were inside a nebula, it would not look like this. In fact, you’d see nothing. The gass particles are so sparse they’d be essentially invisible. It’s only many lightyears away, where you can see from a vast distance, that the particles appear close enough to actually look like anything. But I can’t help but forgive Star Trek for getting this wrong, and it’s been getting it wrong since The Wrath of Khan, because it looks so good. And this nebula, with modern CGI, looks like something straight from a Hubble image. Anyway, the radiation is wreaking havoc on the ship. They’re gonna have to leave the nebula, but Saru is unwilling. Or, at least hesitant. Michael seems to interpret this as emotional interest in the Kelpien. And in fairness, there may be some of that, but recovering this Kelpien is important if they want to understand the cause of the burn. And goodness knows Michael has been compromised by that obsession herself. This episode has a thread running through it of “Saru can’t be trusted to make rational decisions because there is a Kelpien on board.” And I still don’t get that. Kaminar is still out there. He can go visit it next time he has shore leave. It’s not like this crashed ship is his last chance to ever see his people again. I think this whole business is artificial and overdone. But we’ll keep talking about this as the episode progresses. Anyway, Book takes his ship ahead. He has better shielding and his ship can morph, as he calls it. That morphing thing has never been explained. What exactly does this weird reconfiguration of his ship accomplish? What’s it all about? While Book is mapping the nebula, Discovery jumps back top safety. The radiation gets to him a bit but he manages to locate the ship and it’s lifesign before auto-pilot brings him back to Discovery. He’ll be okay after some DNA recombination. The Kelpien ship crashed into a planet that’s practically made out of Diluthium. That’s good news for the Federation. Saru plans to lead the away team personally. While not standard Starfleet procedure, it’s not unheard of for a captain to be part of an away team, if there is deemed sufficient reason. Vance and Michael both give him a look for this, but Vance accepts it. It’s Saru’s call. Personally, I think Saru has sufficient justification for this. A single KEpien survivor, all alone. Never seen anyone else. Having someone of the same species could be reassuring. And I think you’ll agree that the episode demonstrates that he was right about this. My only concern is leaving Tilly in charge. You know I love Tilly. She’s one of my favourite characters. And You know I want to see her achieve her dream of being a captain. But I’m still not convinced she’s ready for this yet. Although, nobody knows the challenges she’s about to face. If The Emerald Chain didn’t show up, she’d have been quite capable of holding the fort until the away team returned. But we’ll get to all that. We learn that the Emerald Chain are running military exercises near Caminar. Osyrra is trying to lure Discovery out so she can steal its spore drive. Starfleet is going to handle that. Discovery has a job to do here. Do you notice that Vance is really sold on this mission to learn the source of the burn, now that they have solid leads to follow. Early in the season, he was very hesitant to expend any resources on this, because there were more important things to deal with. Ironically, they could never have gotten these solid leads if Michael hadn’t been like a dog with a bone in the first place. So Michael tells Book she doesn’t think Saru can be objective. She’s not sure how he’ll handle it if he has to make a hard call. A painful one. First of all, Michael herself doesn’t have a great track record when it comes to difficult calls. Vance even called her out on the whole Arium thing earlier this season. I’m not saying Michael is right or wrong, but I’m curious what has lead her to this conclusion about Saru. I don’t think any of this stuff is fair to his character. Stammets is freaking out about Culbert going on the away mission. At first, I thought this was really weird. This is Culbert’s job. He’s a Starfleet officer. Starfleet officers go into dangerous situations all the time. That’s part of the deal if you’re a member of Starfleet, or you’re in a relationship with a member of Starfleet. Stammets is both. Plus, Saru just said that as long as they take the right medications with them, they should be fine. But I realised, actually, my wife pointed it out. Stammets has already lost Culbert once. So he’s understandably over-protective here. Now despite what I said earlier about Tilly and her unreadiness to be first office, I do really like how they develop this whole thing in the episode. First of all, we get a wonderful scene where Michael reassures Tilly and tells her the story about the little bur of metal under the arm of the captain’s chair. How Georgiou used to press her finger against it to keep herself in the moment during difficult encounters. It’s a wonderful exchange that they’ll call back to a number of times. I love how she allows herself the moment of fear and anxiety, with her trusted friend, and then sucks it up and says “okay, let’s go.” With medications, the away team will survive four hours on the planet. Discovery’s shields will take three hours to repair. After that, they can jump back in to rescue the team. And despite everything, Tilly looks good in that chair. Michael is right, she does belong there. It’s her destiny. The away team arrive on the crashed ship. And this is where everything gets a little weird. The first thing we notice is Michael is dressed differently. She and Culberty are in thick jackets with hoods. Then we realise that Culbert is a Bajoran and Michael is a Trill. Now … forgive me for thinking we’re suddenly watching Hitchhiker’s Guide to the galaxy. I mean, what’s next Is Saru going to be a penguin? No, Saru is Human. I called it before we saw his face. Just before the camera shot that slowly panned up from his feet. So we get to see Doug Jones out of makeup. That’s kinda cool, because we can finally see all his amazing face acting. Don’t get me wrong, nobody can act tinder all that prosthetic like Doug Jones can. He’s a master, but he’ll always be able to do more with his face without all that slapped on him. The other weird thing is, they don’t appear to be in a ship. They’re outside surrounded by snow. Of course, we quickly learn they’re on a holodeck inside the ship. The holodeck has changed their appearances. We know it could do that, even in the 24th century. This is all very strange, and it is explained, at least somewhat a little later, but I think the writers just wanted an excuse to get Saru out of makeup and see the others as different species. They wanted to have some fun with it. The bad news is, they’ve lost all of their equipment. No badges and no medications. If Discovery returns as scheduled, they’ll be sick but alive. The first holodeck character we meet is wearing a new Starfleet uniform. We haven’t seen this one before. It seems to be a bizarre blend of the discovery uniform with the TNG uniform. It’s got a very shiny version of the TNG com badge. No idea if this is supposed to be a real uniform that was worn at some point in history. Until we see it outside the holodeck I think we can basically dismiss it. Clearly, the holo programs are malfunctioning due to over 100 years of exposure to the radiation. When they enter a different part of the program, the holodeck changes their clothes again. They find a crumbling structure with some very cool looking alien creatures flying in the distance. Here’s a strange thing. Saru asks if human bodies react negatively to heights because his heart is racing. So are we to assume the holodeck has somehow reconfigured Saru’s internal organs? That doesn’t make any sense. A surface-level image to change their appearance, sure. But to make Saru’s body react differently, that seems a little absurd and completely unnecessary as we’ll soon learn when we discover the purpose of their transformation. They find the Kelpien child, now an adult male. And Saru’s eyes nearly bug out of his head. OH, it’s another Kelpien. How amazing. It doesn’t make sense. The child assumes the away team are programs but Saru tries to explain they are from outside the simulation. There’s a door here containing something that scares the Kelpien. The door breaks open but nothing comes out. The episode portrays the Kelpien as mentally a child, because he’s never seen anythingh outside of this holodeck. Again, that doesn’t make sense to me. Sure, his perspective will be limited, but his faculties still should have developed just like anyone else. He has the brain of an adult. I’m not sure it makes sense that he’d mentally be a child. A voice goes through the Discovery com system. “We’ve found them.” A female voice. Why this voice is heard on board Discovery is never explained. It doesn’t make any sense. We know how this is, but why would the voice be heard here? Anyway, Discovery has picked up another ship nearby. A Federation ship. Now we all knew where we thought this was going right. How many of you thought this was going to end up being another USS Discovery, tying into The short Trek calypso. I was relieved to find out that wasn’t where they were going. No, it’s Osyrra. Trying to sneak up on them by emitting a Federation signature. Apparently, she used a transwarp tunnel to get here. Book keeps saying nobody would be silly enough to use one of these tunnels but has never explained why. And it seems OSyraa’s ship came through fine with no problems. Anyway, she’s been tracking their ship since Kwijan and she wants Discovery’s spore drive, and she wouldn’t mind the planet of dilithium here either. Nice to learn Discovery now has a cloaking device. This makes sense. Ever since the fall of Romulus, the treaty of Algeron would no longer be in effect. But they can’t jump while cloaked. Again that makes sense. Starships don’t seem to be able to do anything while cloaked. Culbert and Saru find more holo characters. One of them, a vulcan, explains that this holoprogram has been set up to help raise the Kelpient child, educate him, and prepare him for the day rescuers would finally arrive. Since he has never seen anybody outside of the program, the holodeck has changed their appearance to make them look like part of the program. Okay. That part makes sense. But why does Culbert fit into this program more as a Bajoran than as a human? Why does Saru fit in more as a human than as a Kelpien? They still look like themselves. This doesn’t make any sense to me. Michael meets the creature behind the door. It looks very spectacular. Wonderful CGI. It chases her for a bit before she somehow falls upward and finds herself in another room with the KElpioen. In order to not freak him out, she pretends to be a program, one designed to teach him how to interact with outsiders. Meanwhile, Saru and Culberty find a holographic representation of a Kelpien elder. They learn the Kelpien child’s name is Sukal. That name symbolises the end of suffering and is given to a baby born after a hardship. Saru is enjoying what the elder is able to share with him. The song. How it reminds him of home. But it doesn’t stop him doing his job. He’s learning what he can from the book. And he realises what it is that Sukal is afraid of. It’s a monster from Kelpien mythology. Apparently, nobody will be able to leave this program until Sukal is willing to face the monster. Again, not sure why. The visuals of the fortress and the flying creatures continue to be absolutely top-notch. At this point, Tilly is feeling a whole lot of anxiety. Facing down Osyraa in her heavily armed ship is not something she expected to have to deal with on her very first time in the big chair. Tilly’s lack of experience adds a whole new dimension of tension to these scenes. It’s v very effective. I find myself doubting Tilly’s ability to handle the situation, but desperately wanting her to rise up to the challenge and prove me wrong. So even though I wouldn’t have put the character in this number one position, I’m finding that this is effective story-telling here in this episode. Tilly is not feeling as confidant as she’s trying to portray to Osyraa, and yet, if you compare this scene to the scene in season one, where she pretended to be Killy while Lorca stood at her side, she is so much more confidant now. She has come a long way. Osyraa is trying hard to convince Tilly she hasn’t got what it takes. And Tilly is putting up a brave fight in this battle of wits. The away team are all back together again, and Sukal is face to face with the monster. And then something weird happens again. He pulses with a shockwave of energy. This energy disrupts Discovery’s cloaking device. But worse than that, it’s starting to destabilise the Dilithium in the ship’s core. That sounds familiar. Sukal’s shockwave almost caused another burn. So it seems that Sukal was the cause of the burn. How? Why? We don’t yet understand. Why can be do this weird shockwave thing? We don’t know. But it’s all about him. Interesting. With both ships unblocked, it’s time for a battle. Tilly is making a hard call. She has to jump away to prevent Osyraa from getting the spire drive. She promises they’ll come back for the away team, but it’s not looking good for them. Book takes his ship to rescue them, but Adira also has a plan. She just needs Jett’s badge. Saru manages to calm Sukal by singing a Kelpien song. As he calms, the monster scurries away. Nobody but Saru could have done this. Tilly says she’ll self destruct the hip rather than let Osyraa get it. It’s a wonderful moment. But instead, when threatened, she tries to jump away. And that makes sense. Self destruct should be a last resort. IT makes sense that she’d try jumping first. Culbert theorises that being in-utero amongst all this dilithium and subspace radiation explains why the radiation doesn’t kill him. Something must have happened to trigger him when the burn happened. Perhaps the death of his mother? Saru has to return to the ship to deal with Saru. He asks Michael to stay, to help prevent Sukal from causing another burn. Michael argues it should be Saru, because of his connection to Sukal as a fellow Kelpien. And now Michael gets back on her “Saru is compromised” horse. He says he would never let his emotions to factoir into his decisions. She says he already has. I’m not buying that. Sorry. Yes, he’s a little distracted, although I don’t think the episode has given him good reason to be. But he hasn’t yet made any mistakes because of it. Look, if this is all part of the season’s on-going Saru learns to be a better captain arc, then I’m okayt with it. But it’s starting to feel like they’re setting up to push him out of the captain’s chair so Michael can take it. If that’s where they’re going, I’ll be very disappointed. Culbert also wants to stay. He knows what it’s like to be alone in a world that doesn’t make sense. They’ll only have an hour before the planet kills them. But Adira beams down with more radiation medication. That’ll buy them more time. Osyraa takes over the ship by sheer force of numbers. Her people beam on board and secure both the bridge and more importantly, the spore lab. Tilly doesn’t have a chance to destroy the ship. Michael and book arrive just in time to see Discovery and Osyraa’s ship jump to Federation headquarters. End of episode. This is a thrilling cliffhanger. And I’m dying for next week’s episode. I loved the stuff with Tilly in the captain’s chair. I’m still loving Janet Kidder as Osyraa. And the stuff with Sukal was very interesting. I’m so glad that Michael Burnham wasn’t the cause of the burn. It looks like we’re gearing up for an epic ending to the series. Just two episodes left. I say bring it on. Overall, this season is doing a much better job than the last two seasons of paying off it’s mystery. And yet, there are still some threads that seem to have been dropped. Remember how the Vulcans were absolutely convinced that the SP-19 data proved the burn started at Ni’var? That’s been conveniently forgotten. It doesn’t add up for me. And what about that music? Will that come back and be any further explained? Because honestly, the little bit of explanation we had for that last time it was mentioned made very little sense. We’ve still got two episodes left, so the music, at least, might still get a bit more exploration, but I’m not counting on it. And even without these elements being handled satisfactorily, it’s still overall a strong season, in my opinion,but I’m pointing these things out because they do bug me somewhat. Anyway, far be it for me to end on a negative. I think next week is going to be a thrilling episode as Osyraa strikes at the heart of Federation headquarters, and we will hopefully learn some more fascinating things about Sukal and The burn. I think we’ll have a lot more to talk about regarding the season mystery this time next week. Next week’s episode is called There is a Tide (formerly announced as “The Good of The People”) It’s another Jonathan Frakes episode, so that’s always cool. I’m now officially on Christmas holidays and won’t have to return to work until mid January. I plan to use some of this time to work hard on Jewel of The Stars book 3, and get it published as soon as possible. I hope you had a good Christmas and have enjoyed some time off, if possible. It’s been a long weird year, but it’s almost over. Anyway, catch you next week. Live long and prosper. Make it so.

Star Trek Discovery "Terra Firma Part 2" - Detailed Analysis and Review

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2020 26:18

Today we discuss the conclusion to "Terra Firma Part 2" in Star Trek Discovery Season 3. We see the culmination of Georgiou's character arc, which I felt was nicely done. This two-parter has definitely change the way I see Mirror Georgiou and I'm loving it. So let's dig in and see what we can find to talk about in this episode. ----more---- Transcript Welcome to Nerd Heaven I’m Adam David Collings, the author of Jewel of The Stars And I am a nerd This is episode 47 of the podcast. Today, we’re talking about Star Trek Discovery “Terra Firma Part 2” And big news. It’s just been announced that Star Trek Lower Decks has an international distribution deal. It’ll be arriving on Amazon Prime in the U.K., Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, India, and more on the 22nd of January. This has been a long time coming, but we’re finally going to be able to see it. Of course, at this point, I’ve pretty much had the entire first season spoiled for me, because, you know….I have access to the internet. Still, it’s good news. So let’s talk about Terra Firma Part 2. The description on memory alpha reads Georgiou uncovers the true depths of the plot against her, leading her to a revelation about how deeply her time on the USS Discovery truly changed her. The teleplay for this episode was written by Kalinda Vazquez Based on a story by Bo Yeon Kim & Erika Lippoldt & Alan McElroy It was directed by Chloe Domont And it first aired on the 17th of December 2020. Make it so. We pick up where we left off, in the mirror universe, onboard the ISS Discovery. We won’t see our prime characters until this whole thing with Georgiou is over. .Michael is dragged kicking and screaming into the brig. Begging to be killed. That’s the honourable way out for a failed traitor. The Terran empire have a lot in common with the Klingons when you think about it. And that’s nothing new. Michael says “every moment you keep me alive proves further how weak you’ve become. We learn the reason Lorca moved against her, the reason he got to Michael is because Mirror Georgiou was already being considered weak. She was losing her harsh edge, even before she met prime Michael. It turns out half of her biography opera was a lie. One thing I forgot to mention last week was how the story portrayed Georgiou as a peasant who rose up the ranks to emperor. I wonder if this part was true or false. This is a fascinating insight into her backstory, and while it may be a little bit of a retcon, it helps to make sense of the arc the character has been on. Now that she's back in the mirror universe, Georgiou is learning just how much she’s changed. And Micahel is noticing. Rescuing Kelpiens, fretting over artists. Interestingly, Gorgeous is starting to see what mirror Spock ultimately saw, with a little help from prime Kirk. The Terran Empire is not sustainable. They can’t go on like they are forever. Its downfall is inevitable. She tries to explain this to Michael. Georgiou is only holding on to her power, at present, because of the loyalty of those who still serve her, like Owo and Killy. But how long will she be able to hold on to their loyalty if she really pursues peace? Michael mentions an alliance is forming against them. This is the coalition we saw in season 1. Vulcans, Klingons, Andorians, Tellarite. Michael mentions a bunch of other races including the Denobulans, which was cool. I have to assume the coalition of this time will eventually morph into the alliance that we saw in the mirror universe during Deep Space Nine. At that time, the empire had fallen and the alliance ruled the galaxy with almost as strong a fist as their predecessors. The main powers behind the alliance were the Klingons and the Cardassians. The first thing Killy asks when she has a minute alone with Georgiou is “Why is Michael Burnham still taking up oxygen on my ship?” Killy already has her doubts about the emperor. Could Michael be right? Is Georgiou weak? I’m sure Killy has seen it. She knows Georgiou has changed. The only question she needs to wrestle with now is “what do I do about it?” Which option will best serve Captain Killy? She remains loyal, and I don’t think it’s because of anything Georgiou says here about trying to reforge a broken michael into a loyal subject. It’s because Killy doesn’t currently have the resources she needs to lead a revolution of her own. Terrans don’t really care about loyalty. They look out for number one. And she still thinks it’s in her best interest to support Georgiou. I also think she is genuinely enamoured with the idea of being given the job of breaking Micahel. That sounds like a fun challenge to her. One she will embrace. Apparently, there is no greater interrogator than Killy. And that scares the hell out of me. And then we get mirror universe opening credits. Just like Enterprise did with In a Mirror Darkly. Though they’re not as changed as what Enterprise did. The inverted colours work for me. The upside-down imagery not so much. I don’t really get that. Had it been me, I’d have changed the starfleet logos to Terran empire logos. That kind of thing. But that would have taken a lot more work than just turning everything upside down. Michael is pretty confident they won’t break her. At least, that’s what she says. I imagine that Terrans have a higher tolerance for pain than we do. I understand it was a little bit like that in the middle ages. When pain is a normal part of life, it’s not pleasant, but it’s accepted more readily. At least, so I’m told. Killy’s interrogation doesn’t last long. She asks Michael to pledge her loyalty. Then zaps her with the agoniser booth. And then says “we’ll try again tomorrow. You don’t mind sleeping in there do you?” And this is pretty horrifying. She’s left in the booth all night. And every now and then, when she’s least expecting it, it will fire up and put her into incredible pain. The agnoiser technology itself is horrific. The human body eventually shuts down to protect itself from pain, but this technology is designed to circumvent that, so the victim continues to feel the agony. So Detmer comes to see Michael. They all know these two were working together. Detmer tries to convince her to give in, because she won’t be able to cope with uch more. Plus, nobody has heard from Lorca. Which means he has abandoned Michael. There is no sense remaining loyal to him. And all of this makes a lot of sense. Lorca knows his rebellion is beaten. He can’t do it without Michael. That’s why he went through so many hoops to bring prime michael into the mirror universe. This also means they don’t have to bring Jason Isaacs back again. Which is a shame. It also makes sense that Michael gives into Georgiou at this point. IF she is being offered a chance to redeem herself she’d be stupid and stubborn not to take it. Then there’s a rather sweet scene as Georgiou shares a memory of walking with Michael through her night terrors to see the fireflies. She leaves a jar of fireflies on Michael's bed. And we get the impression that Georgiou is finally getting through to Michael. And I think she actually is. It’s obvious that Georgiou loves Michael as a daughter, and always did. And so she presents herself. I’m ready to pledge my loyalty to you. But there’s a question here we’re all asking. Is she genuine, or is this all just part of Michael’s plan? Michael goes and kills all her co-conspirators. (at least, those who are nearby. Lorca and his offsider are gonna be harder to find. There’s a cool shootout with Landry. When Michael and Detmer come in with the badges of all the dead conspirators, it becomes clear that the forgiveness Georgiou is showing Michael doesn’t extend to Detmer. The kitchen is no longer serving Kelpien. Another of Georgiou’s changes. She can no longer stomach the idea of eating sentient beings. She no longer sees them as animals. She’s gotten to know Saru. I think Michael is being honest when she says she no longer loves Lorca, and is willing to kill him. He abandoned her. The culmination of Georgiou’s transformation comes when she tells Saru the truth about vahari. Essentially she frees the Kelpien people by revealing this information to him and telling him to share it with others. Goergiou’s transformation has been accelerated by coming back to the mirror universe. Had she not come here, it would have remained the slow and steady change we’ve seen over the last few years. Sometimes you have to be reminded to who you were, in order to appreciate and embrace who you are becoming. This is all very well done, and is the heart of this two-parter. And Georgiou says this world is her home. She vows to remain here and re-shape it into what it needs to become. Much as Spock will later on. So now they’re on the hunt for Lorca, and they’re going to find him through his off-sider, Duggen. They find him in orbit of Risa. And this is really cool. LAst week, we saw the return of Hannah Cheesman, who played Arium in season 2. She was just in the background, wearing a Terran uniform, but it wasn’t made clear exactly what role she was playing. Was this just an easter egg, like how they got all the alien actors to play humans in Vic’s bar in the final episode of DS9? Now, we get confirmation she is indeed playing Arium. Remember, Arium was human, but she was injured in an accident and made into a cyborg in order to survive. It seems that the mirror arium had no such accident and remained human. This also confirms that her name was Arium even when she was still human. I love this. Very nice touch. So they beam Duggen aboard to question him about Lorca. And this is when the surprising but inevitable betrayal happens. Nice little nod to Firefly for you. All through this episode, I’ve hoped that Georgiou was successful in rehabilitating mirror Michael - turning her into something new. But deep down, always knowing that at any time, she may turn on Georgiou. So we’re really not surprised when it happens. Gorgeous isn’t surprised either. She’s become a lot more soft-hearted but she’s not stupid. She knew this was a likely scenario when Michael pledged her loyalty. She hoped for the best but she prepared for the worst. Michael knew, the minute Goergiou spared her life, that she could never respect her mother again. I love it when Georgiou says “I have changed. I have seen another way to live. Another way to rule.” The prime universe has really had an impact on her. So the battle begins. And again, it’s a cool fight. Discovery has always done action well. Michael had a lot of people loyal to her. Were Culbert, Nilsson and the others co-conspirators all along, that Michael chose not to kill, or has she recruited them since her false return to grace? I suspect the latter. Sadly, Georgiou is left with no other choice but to kill her daughter. Again. Georgiou wakes up back on Dannus 5 with Michael and Carl. She’s been in the mirror universe for months. From Michael’s perspective she passed out for less than a minute, but her wrist monitor has recorded 3 months of bio-readings. She wasn’t transported bodily. She shared the body of an alternate Georgiou. Carl has essentially spun off a new timeline off the mirror universe we know. A timeline that Georgiou has affected greatly. One where the Kelpiens may gain their freedom from the terran empire. Where some good has been done, at least. Michael and Georgiou keep asking Carl, who are you really. The same question we’ve been asking. And finally, he answers. I am the Guardian of Forever. And they use the original voice recording from the original series. I thought the guardian was voiced by James doohna. I know he did a lot of alien voices, but no, the guardian was played by Bart LaRue. Apparently Doohan voiced the Guardian in the animated series, though. But I haven’t seen that episode. I really need to finish watching the animated series. It’s not great, but it’s still Star Trek. Sadly, I didn’t feel anything much from this reveal, because it was spoiled for me. I woke up Friday morning, and within minutes, I saw this big reveal spoiled on Instagram. I was quite unhappy. Spoilers are an interesting thing. I think there’s some responsibility on both sides. I’ve seen people on social media who’ve said things like “I plan to see this movie months after it releases, and heaven help anyone who spoils it for me.” That seems unreasonable. If you’re gonna wait that long, you have to take a little responsibility for protecting yourself, and understand that spoilers likely will happen during that time. But for a spoiler like this to be posted before the episode has even gone live on most of the planet, well, I think that’s a bit unfair. But, those who posted it have apologised and are going to hold to a 24 hour grace period, which I think is a really good idea. Lower Decks is an interesting case. I’ve had much of that spoiled for me, because I move in the Star Trek circles online. I mean, that’s how I market this podcast. I don’t blame those who have posted spoilers. You can’t expect them to wait 6 months to talk about anything. I can’t even fully blame CBS. COVID kinda messed up their plans for releasing Star Trek. Anyway, the door breaks apart and re-forms into the familiar stone portal from City on the Edge of Forever. I’m kinda surprised they went there. There was always a lot of controversy and disagreement around the use of the Guardian of Forever in Star Trek while Harlan Ellison was alive. I guess some agreement was met between CBS and his estate. But this reveal is kinda like the reveal of Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness. It’s played as this big dramatic reveal, but it means nothing to Michael and Gaorgiou. It’s all just for the audience. Personally, I would have dispensed with the artificial suspense and just revealed the guardian properly in part 1. There’s no real reason for it to disguise as a door. A slight reason, perhaps, given it’s in hiding, but then why reveal itself now? So we get some backstory of what’s happened with the guardian since TOS. When the temporal wars began, everyone kept trying to use the guardian as a weapon to kill each other. It wasn’t pretty. I can well understand the guardian not wanting to be used like that. So, it hid. It removed itself from its original location and hid here on Dannus 5. That makes sense. I kinda like how they tied the guardian into the temporal wars. But what do I really think of this reveal? Well, it’s cool to see the guardian of forever again. No questions. It was one of my favourite things introduced in TOS. In fact, City on the Edge of Forever is my favourite TOS episode. But is this a good use of it? I like the character of Carl. He’s cool. He has a fun personality. But, that’s not a personality I associate with the guardian of forever. The appeal of the guardian was it’s mysterious nature. Part mechanism, part being. Both and Neither. That big booming voice. And part of it’s appeal was also it’s setting. That mysterious ancient alien city left in ruins. Where did it come from? How and why was it created? As much as I like Carl, I feel that he humanises the Guardian of Forever too much. I don’t want it to be humanised. I want it to remain mysterious and alien. That doesn’t mean I don’t want answers to some of the questions about it, but …. I don’t want it to be turned into a pleasant gentleman from the 1930s. So ultimately, I think this was a mistake. I think they should have either: Made it obviously the guardian from the beginning and do away with Carl altogether. Or Forget the guardian, and just have Carl be a Q (which I still think really fits his personality) or have him be something new. Some new alien with Godlike powers. I’ve always wanted to see the Guardian of Forever again, but just not like this. But all of that aside, let’s look at what is explained next, because I do really like it. Georgiou is still dying. She wasn’t sent back to be cured. She was sent back to be weighed. To be tested. To see if she was worthy of the Guardian’s help. Would she make different choices? Has her time in the prime universe changed her? She doesn’t belong here, but sending her somewhere else could cause a lot of problems. The guardian doesn’t want to inflict another time or place with the dangerous Emperor Georgiou. But is she still dangerous? What’s interesting is that Georgiou assumes she’s failed the test. She killed her daughter. Again. Carl is more interested in her heart than the outcome. And I like that. Georgiou doesn’t want to go back to the mirror universe. Why would she? But that’s not carl’s plan. He’s going to send her to a time when the prime and mirror universes were still aligned, where her cells won’t fall apart. He doesn’t say exactly where or when. And we’ll talk about that shortly because I have some thoughts. Carl believes Michael is just where she needs to be, so she can’t go with Georgiou. It’s nice that Geirgiou wants her, though. So we have a very touching farewell between these two characters. It was wonderful. We get a brief mention of Husan, the name mentioned in Georgiou’s episodes. She still doesn’t explain who he is, or what he meant to her. Michael tells her to tell the people she’s about to meet. So I guess this backstory will be revealed in the section 31 show. okay. Georgiou has one final word of wisdom for Michael. This century is more Terran than the 23rd. Saru has navigated the change admirably but he’s not the only one suited for the captain’s chair. I’m not sure exactly what they’re trying to imply, but I thought we were done with the whole, will Michael take the captain’s chair thing. The way I see it, the only way for Michael to become captain of Discovery in any way that I'll accept is to get Saru out of the picture. Either kill or promote him. And frankly, I don’t want that, because Saru is one of my favourite characters. And then she steps thorough, and is gone. It’s funny. I really liked the prime Georgiou character, but never quite warmed to mirror Georgiou in the same way. But now, well, I’m really going to miss her. So …. Where has she ended up? For a long time, fans have been saying that Georgiou has to return to the 23rd century so she can star in the section 31 show. Now while I’ve never dismissed that possibility, my response has always been “Why are you assuming the section 31 show will be set in the 23rd century. We’ve never been told anything that would suggest that.” But people have been treated that as gospel. I always thought there was at least an equal chance that the section 31 show would be set here in the 32nd century. Georgiou would leave Discovery to work with section 31 as she had in the past. Well, we know that’s not the cast anymore. The most obvious answer to the question is that she has returned to the 23rd century, as so many fans always assumed. And that’s a very likely scenario. But is it the only possibility? Carl said he was sending her to a time when the prime and mirror universes were aligned. We know they were closely aligned in the 22nd, 23rd and 24th centuries, and on into the 27th, that was the time of the last incursion. So Goergiou could be going anywhere within that window. Here’s a wild theory for you. What if she’s going to the 24th, or early 25th century? That’s the time where we first learned about section 31, in Deep Space Nine. That’s where section 31 was used most effectively in story-telling. This newly changed mirror Georgiou would fit in well with 24th-century section 31, and might even make them a little more moral than they are. What if the setting of the Section 31 show is just after DS9, or more likely, around the time of Star Trek Picard? I can see that making a lot of sense, and I’d definitely be up for that. Here’s an even wilder theory. She has been sent back to the time of Enterprise, and she ends up being the founder of Section 31. I really like what they’ve done with Georgiou’s character. I used to complain that she was not evil enough, given who she was. But now, I have a different perspective. I see now that her time in the prime timeline has gradually changed her. Made her better., And I love that. And I really like the person she has ended up being. I think the arc could have been done a little smoother. I think they were kinda making it up as they went, rather than planning it from day 1, which is a shame. These things always work better for me when they’re been planned in advance. So .. I’m not totally ready for a Michelle Yeoh lead spin-off. My only concern about the show is how they’re going to treat section 31. I felt that Discovery season 2 kinda ruined section 31. They didn’t handle it well. Have they learned from this? Will the section 31 we see in the new show be more like the section 31 we saw in Deep Space Nine? I can only hope. But I’m very eager to learn more about the show now. I’m especially keen to learn what the setting will be. I’ll probably be disappointed if I learn it’s back in the 23red century. Strange New Worlds has that era covered. And honestly, I’m not pinning to have Tyler back. I didn’t like this character in season 2, so I don’t think he needs to be part of the new show. Time will tell. We finally return to Discovery, to see what our other characters are up to. Adira and Stamets are still trying to hack into the Kelpien ship’s sensors. But they’re having trouble. Book turns up with a device that will help. It’s emerald chain technology. So they finally check in with Vance, who is very concerned about using Chain technology on a Starfleet ship. It could be dangerous and Starfleet can’t afford to risk having their only ship with a spore drive compromised. Book is absolutely convinced it is safe. But I’m still concerned. They’re obviously setting something up here. I think it’ll become problematic in the next couple of episodes. So this whole thing of Saru delaying his report on the Kelpien ship. I’m not fully following that. Saru hasn’t seen another Kelpien in a long time, and this is a Kelpien ship. But ….. So what? It’s not like the Kelpiens are extinct. They’re a Federation member. Kaminar is still out there. I don’t quite understand Saru’s reason for not reporting the information to Vance as soon as he knew it. Did he think Vance would not want them to rescue it? I just don’t get it. I don’t know what the writers are getting at here. Then we get another touching scene. It’s not quite a funeral, it’s just a little get -together to remember their friend who they’ll never see again. It was a lovely scene. And this ends the story of Phillipa Gaorgiou, closing a story that began with the first episode of season 1. In a way, this two-parter has seemed a bit like a distraction from the greater season plot, but I’m totally cool with it. The character arcs are just as important to this season as the burn story is. And I, for one, have really enjoyed Terra Firma Parts 1 and 2. We’re getting close to the end now. Just 3 episodes to go. Next week we’ll be talking about episode 11 “The Citadel.” I’m excited to see what happens as the season’s plot arc goes into top gear. It should be cool. And I’ll be watching that episode on Christmas day. But I’ll be on holiday by then.I plan to get my podcast out Monday morning, Australian time, as always. I’ve revamped the books page on my website, so if you’re interested in trying out some of my fiction, you can see it all nicely laid out at AdamDavidCollings.com/books I’d encourage you to check it out. Until I see you next, have a great week, Merry Christmas, live long and prosper.

Star Trek Discovery "Die Trying" Detailed Analysis & Review

Set Phasers: A Highly illogical Star Trek Discovery Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 15, 2020 29:14

In the newest episode of Star Trek Discovery, the crew finally locate Starfleet headquarters, in what is a fanboy extravaganza. We see Voyager J and the USS Nog. I love the back and forth between Admiral Vance and Saru and Burnham. Can they convince him to trust them, and is coming back to Starfleet, after so many centuries all they hoped it would be? Another great episode of Star Trek. ----more---- Transcript Welcome to Nerd Heaven I’m Adam David Collings, the author of Jewel of The Stars And I am a nerd. This is episode 42 of the podcast. Yes. 42. A very significant nerd number. Let’s just take a moment to appreciate life, the universe, and everything. Ok. on with it. Today, we’re talking about Star Trek Discovery season 3 episode 5. Die Trying. The description on Memory Alpha reads After reuniting with what remains of Starfleet and the Federation, the USS Discovery and its crew must prove that a 930 year old crew and starship are exactly what this new future needs. The teleplay was written by Sean Cochran based on a story by James Duff & Sean Cochrane. It was directed by Maja Vrvilo And it first aired on the 12th of November 2020. Make it so. The episode opens with Saru giving a captain’s log. And that’s awesome. I believe it’s the first time we’ve heard him utter those iconic words. The interesting thing is, it’s a supplemental log. Last week started the same way, with Doctor Culbert giving a supplemental log. A supplemental log is just that … it’s a supplement. The original series used supplemental logs as a little catch-up for those viewers coming in part-way through the broadcast who might have missed the beginning of the episode. In-universe, it’s like an addition to the day’s log. Now it’s conceivable that we would open a story with them supplementing their log, but the things they say just don’t feel very supplemental. They feel like the main content of a log. The first two seasons of this show often used supplemental logs to good effect, because it meant they didn’t have to quote a stardate, and they had no good system for stardates in the pre-TOS era. But we’re now in the 32nd century, and we have a good Stardate system. In fact, a stardate is mentioned later in the episode. So why are doing all these supplemental logs at the start of episodes? Feel a little weird. But anyway, Saru is giving a captain’s log. And I love that. Discovery is about to arrive at the coordinates where they’ll find the headquarters for both Starfleet and The Federation. And it’s nice to see that the writers are finally understanding the distinction and relationship between those two entities. There’s a hint of misgiving in Saru’s voice. They don’t know what the Federation or Starfleet look like in this century. Will they be eager to see a 930 year old ship? Will the Discovery crew have a hope of fitting in with this version of Starfleet? Will the common ideals remain enough to bind them together? As they were in the fantastic crossover novel Star Trek Federation by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stephens. Great book. Check it out if you haven’t read it. Michael doesn’t just want to know what’s become of Starfleet in this universe. She wants to find out what happened to her mother. Maybe there will be some answers here. So, headquarters is contained in a distortion field meant to hide it. I’m not sure it’s very effective. It’s this big glow blob thing that must raise a few eyebrows, both visually, and on sensors. But anyway, Discovery flies in. Have you noticed that the shuttle bay doors always seem to be open these days. I know they have a forcefield to hold in the atmosphere, but that’s just meant to be up while the doors are open for ships to come in and out. It’s kind of weird that they just fly around with it open all the time. Very odd. I mean, it looks cool on screen, but it’s not very practical. This opening sequence is just a massive Star Trek geek-out. We get to see a bunch of 32nd century Starfleet ships, but we don’t get a really good look at them. The lighting in this shot seems designed to obscure them, more than show them off, which I think is a terrible shame. I want to get a sense of these ships. One of them seems to have really long nacelles, like Discovery. Another seems to be shaped like a donut. The looks on everyone’s faces is priceless, and kind of matches how we’d all feel if we were suddenly in the heart of Starfleet territory, surrounded by ships. The crew notice ships with neutronium alloy fibres, organic hulls, ships that are entirely holographic, a new USS Constitution that can sleep a crew of two thousand, detached nacelles, and a flying rainforest. And then we see the USS Voyager. NCC 74658-J Which is really cool. Not all Starfleet ships that re-use the name of a previous vessel get the letters in the registry. Often, they just get a brand new number. It’s only special ships that retain that registry number and add a letter on the end. Enter Enterprise was one example. It seems Voyager is another. And that makes sense. Voyager’s journey home from the Delta Quadrant would be the stuff of legend in this day and age. We don’t get a great look at the new Voyager, but its primary hull seems to follow a similar shape to the original. It’s the eleventh ship to bear the name. Memory Alpha has said that Voyager J is a 32nd century intrepid class vessel. But that doesn’t make sense. The intrepids were a class of ships used in the 24th century. Starfleet doesn’t re-use the class name like that. If it were intrepid class, it should look exactly like the original voyager. Anyway, this isn’t on-screen canon. And then the big moment, we fly past the USS Nog. NCC-325070 This is a blink and you’ll miss it moment, and honestly, you’ll probably miss it even if you don’t blink. You can barely read the name with all the lense flare going on. This particular moment was spoiled for me by the internet, because I don’t get Discovery until Friday night, here in Australia. So I spent the whole episode waiting for the USS Nog to show up. I expected it to be a significant part of the story. It wasn’t. It was just a quick visual easter egg. But, it’s an awesome one. I love that they did this. Alex Kurtzman has confirmed this ship is named after the character Nog on Deep Space Nine, who was the first Ferengi to join Starfleet. And he’s said this is an Eisenberg class ship. This, of course, honours the late Aron Eisenberg who played Nog, and who tragically died just over a year ago. In my opinion, Nog was one of the greatest characters in all of Star Trek. He had the greatest character arc the show has ever done, and by all accounts, Mr. Eisenberg was a wonderful human being. So I’m thrilled that Discovery honoured him in this way. After Discovery hails headquarters, letting them know the USS Discovery is reporting for duty, they ask for the Captain, First office and Tal to beam aboard. Their sensors can detect the presence of the symbiont. As they are snatched away by a transporter beam, the musical score goes full-on fanboy, which honestly was appropriate for this moment. We get a decent look at the new Starfleet uniforms. They’re similar, but not quite identical to what we saw in Tal’s memories last episode. They look like a decent continuation of the style we’ve seen on the USS Relativity, and from the temporal agents in the temporal cold war. There’s a bunch of different uniforms. The admiral uniform is different, obviously, as it always is. Then there are light grayish blue uniforms with a stripe going up them in traditional TNG-era department colours. But there is another uniform, light dray on the bottom with dark blue shoulders, in a shape I’m not sure how to describe in words. This is worn by the chief of security and at least one other officer. This particular uniform looks the least Starfleet and seems to be out of place among the others. Oh, and the com badges are not identical to the one worn by Admiral Sena Tal. I actually prefer Tal’s com badge, because the Starfleet delta is a bit more visible. But anyway. And we meet Admiral Vence, commander-in-chief of Starfleet. Saru is delighted to learn that Kaminar joined the federation. We learn about The Omega Chain, a coalition of Andorian and Orions. And we learn of someone called Osyraa, who is becoming more brazen every day. I imagine we’ll learn more of him and his organisation in future episodes. The omega chain gets name-dropped again later. The admiral knew Sela Tal, but makes it clear that he and Adira are strangers to one another. And then Adira is taken off for a medical diagnostic. And that’s the last we see of her in this episode. I wonder what all of that is about. Maybe they just want to make sure that the symbiant and the human host are healthy with one another. But the Trill themselves would have been better equipped to determine that. I’m really curious what that’s all about. I noticed, on my first watch, there was a little visual easter egg, a mention of the Kazon on a computer monitor. I imagine that before the burn, the Federation’s influence extended into the Delta Quadrant. Maybe even the Gamma Quadrant as well. Distances that were insurmountable for Voyager were probably considered “just next door” before the burn. This season, and this episode in particular, are making me feel the same way that I first felt when I started watching TNG. This is Star Trek, but it’s a whole new Star Trek. It’s a great feeling. I enjoyed the first two seasons of this show, but I’m loving this season way more than I was expecting to. But then we learn about the Kili. Some refugees of a cool-looking new alien race are sick with some kind of disease which is plaguing their world. Burnham is immediately keen to help with that problem, but Vance wants to hear their story first. And I’m pleased to see they are finally telling someone the truth about their situation. The whole truth. Control, the sphere data, the spore drive. The red angel. All of it. And I’m glad about that. The whole hiding who they were thing was starting to get a bit old, and well...strange. The rather annoying EMH notes that Saru may be the last Kelpien who still retains biochemical traces of Vahar’ai. Which is odd, because Vahar’ai is basically a stage of development, like puberty. So we are to say that the offspring of Kelpiens who have gone through Vahar’ai and shed their ganglia, are born without ganglia of their own, they are are born as “evolved Kelpiens” as the second season episode rather incorrectly called them. That’s weird. Remember, long ago, there were “evolved Kelpiens,” but the Ba’ul forced them back into their pre-vahar’ai state. None of this has been explained very well. There are currently 38 member worlds of the Federation that Vance is aware of. There may be other worlds out there that still consider themselves members, but have lost all contact. There were 350 member worlds at the Federation’s peak. I wonder when exactly that peak happened. And I do still love the floating tables and chairs. They’re cool. The EMH, Eli has confirmed that Saru and Michael are not lying. But Starfleet records hold no references to Control, a red angel or a spire drive. Thanks, Spock. So he’s understandably skeptical. He can’t corroborate their story. And the Federation spent most of the 30th century fighting a war to uphold the temporal accords. We, of course, know this as the temporal cold war. Time travel is outlawed. Which means, the Discovery crew’s presence here is by definition, a crime. This all makes perfect sense. Given their past, the present-day Starfleet would be very uncomfortable with time-travellers, even if they claim to have come from a time far predating the temporal war. Are the discovery crew here as an attempt by somebody to change the future? He can’t rule that out. And he shouldn’t. He can’t afford to trust them without evidence. You’ll notice that Starfleet, and Vance in particular, is the antagonist of this episode, because he opposes Saru and Michael’s goal. He stands in the way as an obstacle to what they want. Note, that doesn’t make him a villain. This isn’t evil Starfleet. I think a lot of fans have had enough of evil Starfleet lately. No. This is Starfleet being cautious, as they should. Vane plans to requisition Discovery for analysis and retrofit, and split up the crew. This immediately gets our heckles up. That sounds terrible. The crew of Discovery are a family. (and yes in this season, they have earned that descriptor). The reason they all left their lives behind to come into the future was so that Michael wouldn’t have to be alone here. If they are split up now, it defeats that whole purpose. They might as well have remained in the 23rd century and let Michael fly Discovery on auto-pilot as she originally planned. This is really upsetting to all of them, and not something any of them are going to want to take sitting down. And I’m totally on their side in this. However. What Vance is saying makes sense from his point of view. If the Discovery crew are here for some nefarious reason, it decreases the probability of them being able to carry out whatever it is they intend by breaking them up, separating them randomly. It seems harsh, but I understand why he’s doing it. Vance asks Saru to put the needs to Starfleet ahead of the needs of his crew. That’s hard. There’s a fantastic scene between Saru and Michael, back in Discovery’s ready room. Michael is all worked up about this, and understandably. She makes some good practical points why Vance is wrong. Why the crew should be kept together. They know this ship. They know the spore drive, and if this family is broken up now, some may never recover. All true. But Saru rightly points out that it’s Vance’s call. He’s the admiral. He’s the commander in chief. They chose to rejoin Starfleet. They could have just stayed out there as a rogue element, like so many others in the galaxy. They chose to come back and submit themselves to Starfleet’s chain of command. The balanced, two-sided conflict here is delicious. Michael is all set to steal information about the Kili, so they can help cure the disease and prove their worth. Saru has to remind her that Starfleet officers don’t operate that way. A lesson he thought she’s learned by now, after her ill-fated mutiny on the Shenzhou. And I think she had, but she’s been living as a free spirit in this century for a year. She admitted she’d let go of a lot of things. She needs to be reigned in by Saru, and she knows it. Her humble realisation of that is nicely portrayed. While the crew are interrogated, with various levels of cooperation, Saru and Burnham attempt to request the roster of planets the Kili visited through official channels. They’re starting to get through to Lieutenant Willa. Burnham’s unique knowledge of the past helps her to solve the mystery of the Kili Illness. The only way to cure it is to get a hold of some pre-mutated plants from Urna. The only place to find this is a Federation seed vault ship, which still exists today. The USS Tikhov. It holds samples of every plant in the galaxy. It’s like a vast seed library. The problem is, the Tikhov is four months away. The spore drive is the obvious solution. But the only crew-member Vance needs is Stammets. He’s gonna put a new crew of trusted officers on Discovery. Burnham makes some valid points in argument, but as usual, her tone is insubordinate. It takes Saru to find the diplomatic middle-road. He’ll remain on the station, kind of like collateral. Burnham will command the Discovery, but Willa and two security officers will accompany them. You see, Vance is not completely unreasonable. But he does need to be convinced. So they jump to the Tikhov’s coordinates, but the ship is stuck in an ion storm. They have to reach in and tractor them out. And this is where we get another great Detmer scene. As things get tense, she starts to blank out. She’s going all distant again. Because once again, the pressure is all riding on her shoulders. But Owo notices she's freezing and gives her some reassuring words. “You have time. You can do this.” And it’s enough to pull Detmer back, now that she’s being honest. I really liked this. I can see a real friendship growing between those two characters. Kind of like a Geordi / Data thing, or a Tom and Harry thing. The most interesting part of the interrogations is definitely the Georgiou stuff. The bit where she shuts down holograms by blinking at them is kinda weird. The guy who questions her is kind of interesting. He wears glasses because he thinks they make him look smarter. (Remember even in the 23rd century glasses were mostly a thing of the past, unless you’re allergic to Retinax V like Kirk) He reminds me a little of Bill Nighy. He’s fascinated by Georgiou and the Terrans in particular. They build an empire based on the maxim, because we feel like it. So why did she join a Starfleet crew? He figures out she has a personal stake. She cares, personally, for Michael. He also figures out that the only way he’ll glean information from her is by the questions she asks him. Nice. She wants to know who is really calling the shots in the galaxy today. Who caused the burn? Are they the same? You can see that she’s already planning her next move. Is she wanting to take over the whole thing for herself? Maybe set herself up as an emperor again? It’s in her nature. But she learns that the terran empire fell centuries ago, which we know from Deep Space Nine. It’s all thanks for mirror Spock’s preaching of peace, as motivated by Kirk. but as Kirk pointed out, the empire could not stand forever. It would fall eventually. This really seems to have rattled her. WE also learn that the distance between our universe and the mirror universe started expanding after she crossed over. I wonder what caused that. Kirk’s encounter there? Something else? There hasn’t been a crossing in over 500 years. That puts the last crossing at no later than the 27th century. He said over 500, so I wonder exactly how much earlier it was. And I wonder what the mirror universe looks like now, in 3189. Different Federation worlds take turns looking after the seed vault. At present, it’s a Barzan family. Nahn is excited to learn that her people joined the federation in the 25th century. The Tikhov is overgrown with plants, which is a little weird. It’ll be explained later, of course. They find a holo recording of the Barzan family. Someone is humming a tune. The same lullaby that Adira was playing on the cello. This appears to be quite the mystery, and we’ll come back to it at the end of the episode. Don’t let me forget. While looking through the logs, Nhan learns that something terrible happened here. A light hurt the wife and kids. The husband hoped a cure could be found in the vault. He’s been growing the plants from the seed vault, searching for answers. Culbert finds the wife and kids dead in stasis. The husband, Attis is in a weird state. He appears and disappears. He’s out of phase. Nahn says that Barzans don’t have the same concept of death as humans. But she doesn’t really explain what that means. Attis clearly believes he can find a way to bring his dead family back to life. I wish they’d explored this concept a little more. Because at face value it doesn’t make sense. What exactly do Barzan’s believe about death? They can’t get into the seed vault without Attis’s password. So they have to find a way to reason with him. Stamets, Reno and Tilly figure out that the ship was hit by a coronal mass ejection. Attis was beaming at the time, which is why he survived, but also why he’s out of phase, kinda mid-transport. But they cure him of this with the transporter. And Michael manages to get through to him. He gets her the seeds she needs to save the Kili. But Attis won’t leave the Tikhov. He won’t leave his family. I don’t understand. Can’t they beam his family on board with him, while he gets medical treatment. Is this just a suicidal thing because he can’t bear to live without his family? Michael wants to force him to come, because if he stays, the seeds will be lost? A valuable part of Federation history. I guess, she assumes if he stays, he’ll keep taking the seeds and growing them, depleting the supplies from the vault. So Nahn decides to stay behind and watch the seeds, fulfilling the Barzan watch. She’s suddenly feeling very connected to her people. Somehow, Nahn again connects this, emotionally, to Arium’s death. I still don’t quite understand the connection. I was shocked that Nahn was leaving the ship here, because they’ve only just promoted her character to the opening credits of the show. So, I’m convinced we haven’t seen the last of her. Anyway, it was nice to see her so happy. So it seems that Michael has proven herself and the Discovery crew to Vance. He is willing to put them back on the active duty roster. But Starfleet doesn’t have 5-year missions anymore. Exploration is a luxury they can no longer afford. Saru argues, via a historical anecdote, that their unique position, from a revered time, might help the Federation to look up, to regain some parts of itself that it has lost. Vance agrees that Starfleet has been in triage for a long time. He’s willing to let the crew stay together, but they’ll go where he says, when he says. There’s still a way to go to making the Federation what it once was. As for exploration, well, everything in this century is a new frontier for the discovery crew, so in that sense, they are exploring. It’s nice to see them all come to an agreement. Burnham really wants to know more about the burn. There are a lot of theories about what caused it. They’ve never found sufficient evidence to support one over the other. He feels there are no further conclusions to draw unless someone can find additional evidence, but there are more important concerns right now. I like how Burnham takes this as a personal challenge to find new evidence, but at the same time, acknowledges that right now, it’s not the highest priority. She’ll keep her eyes open, but she’ll follow orders. This feels like a big turning point in the season. They’re now accepted into Starfleet. No longer are they doing their own thing. They’ll be receiving missions. It’s a nice little status -quo shift. Now, back to that music. Lieutenant Willa says half the people here know some version of that music, including he. Barzans, a Trill living on Earth. They all know this mysterious piece of music, but don’t know why, and yet, they’re separated by vast distances due to the shortage of dilithium. Willa can’t explain it, but isn’t going to lose any sleep over it. But it’s got Michael intrigued. And it’s got me intrigued too. I really hope they can pull off a satisfying conclusion to the mysteries they’re raising this season. The resolution of the red angel thing last season was not all I had hoped for. But I’m feeling optimistic. Gorgeous is acting really weird. She doesn’t even notice Michael for a moment. I think she’s in grief that the Terran empire fell, and that she’s so far from her home, probably never to see it again. But I also think she’s plotting. And that worries me quite a bit. But at the same time, I’m pleased that they’re being honest with her character. As she said, she’s wicked, even for a Terran. In season 2, I think the writers forgot that. Saru needs to remind Michael to choose her words more carefully with the Admiral in future. If he’d been a less reasonable man, things might not have ended up so well. I’m excited to see where this new status quo is going to take us. What mission will Vance send the Discovery on next week? It’ll be exciting to find out. Most Star Trek shows find themselves in their third season. It was true of TNG, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise. It seems to be true of Discovery as well. They’ve found a good balance that I think will appeal to a wide variety of Star Trek fans. The tone feels way more Star Trek than previous seasons, but there’s still enough character focus to satisfy me. And while I enjoyed the darker tone in season 1, I don’t think they’ve over-compensates. They found a tone that I’m still good with. After all, I already liked Star Trek before it got dark with DS9, Discovery, and Picard. Personally, I think there’s room for lots of different types of Star Trek, but what they’ve hit this season is the type that will have the broadest appeal, I think. I’m hoping it wins back some fans who had previously been anti-discovery. Next week’s episode is called Scavengers. That’s all we know about it so far. Last year, I wrote a Christmas sci-fi short story, set in my Jewel of the Stars universe. I put it up on Wattpad, where you can still read it for free, but I’ve just published it on all the major eBook retailers, where you can find it for 99 cents. So whichever way you prefer to read it, I’d encourage you to check it out. It’s a nice little story to get you in the festive mood. Because Christmas does seem to be coming a bit early this year. After a very strange year, I don’t blame people for wanting to hold onto something happy and fun. Anyway, my story is called The Christmas Star Disaster. You can find it at Books2read.com/christmasstar and that’s the number 2. See you next week. Live long and prosper. Make it so.

Star Trek Discovery S2 E 5 & 6 "Saints Of Imperfection" & "Sounds of Thunder"

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2020 56:37

What does it mean to be Kelpien? To be human? to be Starfleet?! Explorations go deeper as Akie and Steph discuss episodes 5 & 6 of Discovery’s second season. We go into the Mycelial network to lose new friends and find old ones; we go to Kaminar to, well, kick butt; AND we go to Section 31 where we must confront our own intentions. What does it mean, after all, to be unified? Join us on Facebook, instagram and Patreon to join in the conversation and for exclusive BTS content!https://www.facebook.com/setphasershttps://www.instagram.com/setphaserspodcast

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The Edge : 88: Mumble Mumble . . . Our Fault . . . Classified!

Star Trek Podcasts: Trek.fm Complete Master Feed

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2020 71:25

Unanswered Threads. When a television show creates large, elaborate storylines that are weaved throughout a season, some of the smaller plot points that were developed may never get finalized. What on Kaminar is happening now with the Kelpiens and Ba’ul? The logic extremists came and went pretty quickly, and what’s going to happen with L’Rell’s chancellorship? In this episode of The Edge, hosts Liam Smart, Brandi Jackola, and Nick Collinson discuss some unanswered questions and speculate on the logic extremists, briefly discuss the lost potential of Airiam, and explore what’s happening on Qo’noS and Kaminar now that the USS Discovery has left the 23rd century. Chapters Intro (00:00:00) Feedback! (00:04:25) News (00:10:50) (Il)logic(al) Extremists (00:15:05) Wasted Airiam (00:30:33) What’s Happening on Kaminar? (00:40:00) L’Rell the Boss (00:49:25) Final Thoughts (00:58:01) Closing (01:01:34) Hosts Liam Smart, Brandi Jackola, and Nick Collinson Production Liam Smart (Editor) Brandi Jackola (Producer) Nick Collins (Producer) C Bryan Jones (Executive Producer) Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer) Ken Tripp (Executive Producer) Norman C. Lao (Associate Producer) Tony Robinson (Associate Producer) Lisa Slack (Associate Producer) Tom Puleo (Associate Producer) Shoaib Mirza (Associate Producer) Richard Rutledge (Associate Producer) James Muldrow (Associate Producer) Cornelia Reutner (Associate Producer) Ryan Maillet (Associate Producer) Chris Tribuzio (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager) Tony Robinson (Show Art)

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88: Mumble Mumble . . . Our Fault . . . Classified!

The Edge: A Star Trek Discovery Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2020 71:25

Unanswered Threads. When a television show creates large, elaborate storylines that are weaved throughout a season, some of the smaller plot points that were developed may never get finalized. What on Kaminar is happening now with the Kelpiens and Ba'ul? The logic extremists came and went pretty quickly, and what's going to happen with L'Rell's chancellorship? In this episode of The Edge, hosts Liam Smart, Brandi Jackola, and Nick Collinson discuss some unanswered questions and speculate on the logic extremists, briefly discuss the lost potential of Airiam, and explore what's happening on Qo'noS and Kaminar now that the USS Discovery has left the 23rd century. Chapters Intro (00:00:00) Feedback! (00:04:25) News (00:10:50) (Il)logic(al) Extremists (00:15:05) Wasted Airiam (00:30:33) What's Happening on Kaminar? (00:40:00) L'Rell the Boss (00:49:25) Final Thoughts (00:58:01) Closing (01:01:34) Hosts Liam Smart, Brandi Jackola, and Nick Collinson Production Liam Smart (Editor) Brandi Jackola (Producer) Nick Collins (Producer) C Bryan Jones (Executive Producer) Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer) Ken Tripp (Executive Producer) Norman C. Lao (Associate Producer) Tony Robinson (Associate Producer) Lisa Slack (Associate Producer) Tom Puleo (Associate Producer) Shoaib Mirza (Associate Producer) Richard Rutledge (Associate Producer) James Muldrow (Associate Producer) Cornelia Reutner (Associate Producer) Ryan Maillet (Associate Producer) Chris Tribuzio (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager) Tony Robinson (Show Art)

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Nem kell nekünk egyensúly adás - Magdival

Impulzus Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2019 60:07

A Discoveryt foglalkoztató titokzatos jelenség ezúttal Saru otthonára, a Kaminar bolygóra irányítja rá a figyelmet: az első csillagflottás kelpiai egykori távozása, valamint evolúciós továbbfejlődése feladja a leckét a mesterséges ökoszisztémát felépítő Ba’ul számára. Ha a kelpiai nép esetleg hátat fordítana a Vahar’ai hagyományának, az elnyomók a teljes lakosság felszámolására is készen állnak. Aktuális témánk a ’The Sound of Thunder’ című epizód. Rövid hírszekció: - Április 11-én érkezik az új Alkonyzóna sorozat, egyelőre kizárólag a CBS All Access platformra. A széria az új történeteket mellett régebbi epizódok újragondolását is elhozza a nézők számára. - Április 5-én Űrszekerek közösségtalálkozó, április 6-án pedig Űrszekerek mozibuli A Kapcsolatfelvétel Napján! A kibeszélő tartalmából: - Az elsődleges irányelvet Pike könnyelműen átlépi: a kapcsolatfelvétel és a lesugárzás a Vörös Angyal iránymutatása és beavatkozása miatt indokolható? - Mi történik, miután a kelpiai civilizáció felszabadul az egyensúly nyomása alól? Vajon a fejlődés miatt Saruban is extra ambíciók ébrednek? - Istenszerű lények a Star Trekben: a magasabb létsíkok szinte mindig egy technológiai vagy evolúciós fölényből erednek? - Hogyan fejlesztett a Ba’ul a térhajtómű feltalálása utáni húsz évben egy félelmetesen erős flottát? A Ba’ul és Az új nemzedékben látott Armus rokona lenne (Skin of Evil, TNG 1x22)? - Kicsoda a Vörös Angyal? Spock, Burnham, vagy egy több tagból álló csapatról, esetleg civilizációról van szó?

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Punch It 112 - Kaminar Conundrum

Punch It: Writing in Star Trek

Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2019 47:24

The Sound of Thunder's Prime Directive ProblemPike made a decision in Star Trek: Discovery's season two episode "The Sound of Thunder" that changed the course of evolution for one species and altered the balance of power with another. These were both non-federation races. The captain had a split second to make that monumental choice. How would other captains react?In this episode, we discuss how Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway, and Archer would have done if they were the captain of Discovery during that mission. We also discuss how the episode would have looked on their respective shows.

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Punch It 112 - Kaminar Conundrum

The Nerd Party - Master Feed

Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2019 47:24

The Sound of Thunder's Prime Directive Problem Pike made a decision in Star Trek: Discovery's season two episode "The Sound of Thunder" that changed the course of evolution for one species and altered the balance of power with another. These were both non-federation races. The captain had a split second to make that monumental choice. How would other captains react? In this episode, we discuss how Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway, and Archer would have done if they were the captain of Discovery during that mission. We also discuss how the episode would have looked on their respective shows.

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STDP 033 – If Memory Serves (S2E8)

Star Trek Discovery Podcast, featuring Picard and Lower Decks

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2019 119:10

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 2, Episode 8: If Memory Serves For episode 33 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I discuss Season 2 Episode 8 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, If Memory Serves. This episode was written by Dan Dworkin & Jay Beattie, and it was directed by TJ Scott....

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STDP 033 – If Memory Serves (S2E8)

Star Trek Discovery Podcast, featuring Picard and Lower Decks

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2019 119:10

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 2, Episode 8: If Memory Serves For episode 33 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I discuss Season 2 Episode 8 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, If Memory Serves. This episode was written by Dan Dworkin & Jay Beattie, and it was directed by TJ Scott....

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STDP 033 – If Memory Serves (S2E8)

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2019 119:10

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 2, Episode 8: If Memory Serves For episode 33 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I discuss Season 2 Episode 8 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, If Memory Serves. This episode was written by Dan Dworkin & Jay Beattie, and it was directed by TJ Scott. Discussion on If Memory Serves begins at 13:41… We begin the podcast with feedback from the previous episode. We get into this episode at 13 minutes 41 seconds. Fred’s Pics and Spoiler Alert! We have been blessed yet again with pics chosen by Fred from The Netherlands, including the cover image. We will show them throughout this blog post. To that end, SPOILER ALERT! If you haven’t watched If Memory Serves, you may want to stop reading here! Previously on Star Trek!!! In an unprecedented move, that many people say was brilliant, our “Previously on…” segment at the start of the show had something we have never seen before. It was “Previously on” from another Star Trek show! In this case, of course, it was “Previously on Star Trek”. We saw some classic images from the first pilot episode of Star Trek, titled, “The Cage”, which was also featured in the two-part TOS episode, “The Menagerie”. For me, this was very unexpected but very welcomed. It also signaled something I already knew but it was good to have the evidence: This show takes place in the same prime timeline as The Original Series, TNG and all the rest of the series that followed. It’s just a visual and technological update to bring it to a 2019 standard, but it follows the same story canon as all the other shows. The success or failure of what the producers did was discussed at length. I loved it, understood what it meant, and was so happy to see them do this. Ruthie, on the other hand, was confused by it, and she talks about why at length during the episode. STDP 033 – Star Trek Discovery S208 (00:32) – Blue Talosian flowers (The Cage). STDP 033 – Star Trek Discovery S208 (00:43) – Talosians (The Cage). Talos IV!!! Vina!!! When Burnham and Spock arrive in the Talos system, they encounter a black hole, or is it? Of course, it’s just a projection from the Talosians. Spock comes out of his state to take control of the shuttlecraft.

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STDP 033 – If Memory Serves (S2E8)

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 12, 2019 119:10

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 2, Episode 8: If Memory Serves For episode 33 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I discuss Season 2 Episode 8 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, If Memory Serves. This episode was written by Dan Dworkin & Jay Beattie, and it was directed by TJ Scott. Discussion on If Memory Serves begins at 13:41… We begin the podcast with feedback from the previous episode. We get into this episode at 13 minutes 41 seconds. Fred’s Pics and Spoiler Alert! We have been blessed yet again with pics chosen by Fred from The Netherlands, including the cover image. We will show them throughout this blog post. To that end, SPOILER ALERT! If you haven’t watched If Memory Serves, you may want to stop reading here! Previously on Star Trek!!! In an unprecedented move, that many people say was brilliant, our “Previously on…” segment at the start of the show had something we have never seen before. It was “Previously on” from another Star Trek show! In this case, of course, it was “Previously on Star Trek”. We saw some classic images from the first pilot episode of Star Trek, titled, “The Cage”, which was also featured in the two-part TOS episode, “The Menagerie”. For me, this was very unexpected but very welcomed. It also signaled something I already knew but it was good to have the evidence: This show takes place in the same prime timeline as The Original Series, TNG and all the rest of the series that followed. It’s just a visual and technological update to bring it to a 2019 standard, but it follows the same story canon as all the other shows. The success or failure of what the producers did was discussed at length. I loved it, understood what it meant, and was so happy to see them do this. Ruthie, on the other hand, was confused by it, and she talks about why at length during the episode. STDP 033 – Star Trek Discovery S208 (00:32) – Blue Talosian flowers (The Cage). STDP 033 – Star Trek Discovery S208 (00:43) – Talosians (The Cage). Talos IV!!! Vina!!! When Burnham and Spock arrive in the Talos system, they encounter a black hole, or is it? Of course, it’s just a projection from the Talosians. Spock comes out of his state to take control of the shuttlecraft.

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Star Trek: Discovery “Light and Shadows” Review

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Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2019 53:54

While Michael Burnham travels home to Vulcan to see if Amanda has discovered anything about the whereabouts of Spock, Captain Pike and the crew of the Discovery investigate a time-rift near Kaminar. Join in as we give the details and more on episode seven of season two of Star Trek Discovery, "Light and Shadows".

S2E7 - Light and Shadow

Why the Trek: A Star Trek Discovery Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2019 82:40

Zach wonders if Paul Stamets and the Spore Drive have become too powerful, like a Golden Gun for Star Trek storytelling. We really like Ethan Peck's Spock so far, and we're excited for more, but the decision his family makes has us wondering: is the Federation justice system complete garbage? Finally, David predicts the DC-Star Trek crossover event that literally no one wants.

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STDP 032 – Light and Shadows (S2E7)

Star Trek Discovery Podcast, featuring Picard and Lower Decks

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2019 118:50

Star Trek: Discovery - Season 2, Episode 7: Light and Shadows For episode 32 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I discuss Season 2 Episode 7 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, Light and Shadows. This episode's teleplay is by Ted...

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STDP 032 – Light and Shadows (S2E7)

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2019 118:50

Star Trek: Discovery - Season 2, Episode 7: Light and Shadows For episode 32 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I discuss Season 2 Episode 7 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, Light and Shadows. This episode's teleplay is by Ted...

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STDP 032 – Light and Shadows (S2E7)

Star Trek Discovery Podcast, featuring Picard and Lower Decks

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2019 118:50

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 2, Episode 7: Light and Shadows For episode 32 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I discuss Season 2 Episode 7 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, Light and Shadows. This episode’s teleplay is by Ted Sullivan, from a story by Ted Sullivan & Vaun Wilmott, and it is directed by Marta Cunningham. Discussion on Light and Shadows begins at 7:57… We begin the podcast with feedback from the previous episode. We get into this episode at 7 minutes 57 seconds. Fred’s Pics and Spoiler Alert! We have been blessed yet again with pics chosen by Fred from The Netherlands, including the cover image. We will show them throughout this blog post. To that end, SPOILER ALERT! If you haven’t watched Light and Shadows, you may want to stop reading here! Spock has been found!!! Burnham decides to go to Vulcan to see if Amanda had any luck finding Spock, knowing she probably wouldn’t tell Michael if she did. Going back home reminds Burnham of her childhood years, growing up in the house, and the times she spent with young Spock. Spock is on Vulcan, and he’s really messed up. We learn something I personally found shocking about Spock. He had a form of dyslexia that the Vulcans call L’tak Terai, and that Amanda helped Spock work past this learning disability, after seeing him not get the help he needed at the Vulcan Learning Center. STDP 032 – Star Trek: Discovery S2E7 (08:33) – Learning the Vulcan salute. STDP 032 – Star Trek: Discovery S2E7 (08:39) – Learning the Vulcan salute. Despite assertions to the contrary, Burnham senses that Amanda knows where Spock is. She kept him in a shrine that shields telepathic communication. Does it also eliminate mind melds? I didn’t understand why that wouldn’t be the first alternative to help Spock. Maybe that was tried, but the lack of a mention took it down, but just a tad for me. It could have easi

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DT059: Star Trek Discovery “Light and Shadows” Review (Season 2 Episode 7)

The Greatest Discovery: New Star Trek Reviewed

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2019 53:54

While Michael Burnham travels home to Vulcan to see if Amanda has discovered anything about the whereabouts of Spock, Captain Pike and the crew of the Discovery investigate a time-rift near Kaminar. Join in as we give the details and more on episode seven of season two of Star Trek Discovery, "Light and Shadows".

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Scramble Spock's Egg (S2E7)

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 5, 2019 61:44

While chilling outside Kaminar the crew of the DISCO send Pike and Tyler to experience the blue wave of temporal displacement. But when Burnham visits the fam it's not long until an argument erupts, and she and Spock high-tail it out of there. Will Keanu Reeves show up next episode? Where is Culber? Are we to believe these probes? It's the episode that tells two stories, but wants to tell a whole lot more!***Support our show

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STDP 032 – Light and Shadows (S2E7)

Star Trek Discovery Podcast, featuring Picard and Lower Decks

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 5, 2019 118:50

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 2, Episode 7: Light and Shadows For episode 32 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I discuss Season 2 Episode 7 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, Light and Shadows. This episode’s teleplay is by Ted Sullivan, from a story by Ted Sullivan & Vaun Wilmott, and it is directed by Marta Cunningham. Discussion on Light and Shadows begins at 7:57… We begin the podcast with feedback from the previous episode. We get into this episode at 7 minutes 57 seconds. Fred’s Pics and Spoiler Alert! We have been blessed yet again with pics chosen by Fred from The Netherlands, including the cover image. We will show them throughout this blog post. To that end, SPOILER ALERT! If you haven’t watched Light and Shadows, you may want to stop reading here! Spock has been found!!! Burnham decides to go to Vulcan to see if Amanda had any luck finding Spock, knowing she probably wouldn’t tell Michael if she did. Going back home reminds Burnham of her childhood years, growing up in the house, and the times she spent with young Spock. Spock is on Vulcan, and he’s really messed up. We learn something I personally found shocking about Spock. He had a form of dyslexia that the Vulcans call L’tak Terai, and that Amanda helped Spock work past this learning disability, after seeing him not get the help he needed at the Vulcan Learning Center. STDP 032 – Star Trek: Discovery S2E7 (08:33) – Learning the Vulcan salute. STDP 032 – Star Trek: Discovery S2E7 (08:39) – Learning the Vulcan salute. Despite assertions to the contrary, Burnham senses that Amanda knows where Spock is. She kept him in a shrine that shields telepathic communication. Does it also eliminate mind melds? I didn’t understand why that wouldn’t be the first alternative to help Spock. Maybe that was tried, but the lack of a mention took it down, but just a tad for me. It could have easily been dealt with in a line of dialog. I

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STDP 032 – Star Trek Discovery – S2E7 – Light and Shadows

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 5, 2019 118:50

For episode 32 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and Brian discuss Star Trek: Discovery - S2E7, which is titled, Light and Shadows. This episode's teleplay is by Ted Sullivan, from a story by Ted Sullivan & Vaun Wilmott, and it is directed by Marta Cunningham. Burnham takes leave and heads to Vulcan to continue to search for Spock, and she succeeds! However, Spock is not himself. After Burnham leaves Discovery, which is still orbiting Kaminar, the ship encounters an anomaly where past, present, and future all exist at once that Pike and Tyler investigate in a shuttlecraft, only to be attacked by the probe they launched. Like all Ted Sullivan episodes, it seems, this was a great one! Read more... The post STDP 032 – Star Trek Discovery – S2E7 – Light and Shadows appeared first on Golden Spiral Media- Entertainment Podcasts, Technology Podcasts & More.

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Episodenbesprechung: Star Trek Discovery - "Light and Shadows" (S02E07)

Discovery Panel

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2019 124:48

Light and Shadows. Vom Schatten ins Licht treten in dieser Folge eure Podcaster, um mit euch nach Vulkan, in den Orbit von Kaminar und durch die Zeit zu schweben - "Red Angel Style". Wir sind bisher ja sehr angetan von der zweiten Staffel "Star Trek: Discovery". Was sagt ihr? https://itunes.apple.com/de/podcast/discovery-panel/id1287128600?mt=2

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Light and Shadows

Discovering Trek: A Star Trek Discovery Companion

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2019 58:17

SPOILER ALERT As the crew of the USS Discovery deal with a dangerous temporal anomaly while in orbit of Kaminar, Michael heads home to Vulcan to continue her search for Spock. When she gets there, she finds out that Amanda has been keeping something from her and Sarek - literally. When Section 31 intervenes and threatens Spock, Michael realizes that they must travel to a location that holds many dangers and demons for both Spock - and Christopher Pike! Joining Dan and Bill to examine "Light and Shadows" is our dear friend Thad Hait, cohost of the Voyager re-watch podcast "Delta Flyer"! We will discuss Spock, Sarek, Amanda, time distortions and a VERY unexpected destination! We’ll also give you predictions as to what we think could happen both next week and during the season, and we'll reveal what we discovered about our own humanity in this latest episode of Star Trek Discovery. =/= Music for Discovering Trek is provided by Five Year Mission. They’re writing one song for each episode of The Original Series and their brand new album, Year 4, is AVAILABLE NOW! Find out more and download all their albums at FiveYearMission.net

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Discovering Trek: A Star Trek Discovery Companion Light and Shadows

Trek Geeks Podcast Network

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2019 58:17

SPOILER ALERT As the crew of the USS Discovery deal with a dangerous temporal anomaly while in orbit of Kaminar, Michael heads home to Vulcan to continue her search for Spock. When she gets there, she finds out that Amanda has been keeping something from her and Sarek - literally. When Section 31 intervenes and threatens Spock, Michael realizes that they must travel to a location that holds many dangers and demons for both Spock - and Christopher Pike! Joining Dan and Bill to examine "Light and Shadows" is our dear friend Thad Hait, cohost of the Voyager re-watch podcast "Delta Flyer"! We will discuss Spock, Sarek, Amanda, time distortions and a VERY unexpected destination! We’ll also give you predictions as to what we think could happen both next week and during the season, and we'll reveal what we discovered about our own humanity in this latest episode of Star Trek Discovery. =/= Music for Discovering Trek is provided by Five Year Mission. They’re writing one song for each episode of The Original Series and their brand new album, Year 4, is AVAILABLE NOW! Find out more and download all their albums at FiveYearMission.net

'Star Trek: Discovery' 2x07 - "Light and Shadows" Review

Star Trek Universe Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2019 51:00

The Prime Directive is tested in this thrilling (but divisive) episode! Join us for the moral quandary, the Red Angel theories, favorite quotes, and trivia!Summary courtesy of CBS All Access:Burnham goes to Vulcan in search of Spock, where she unearths surprising family secrets. In researching what is left of the Red Angel’s signal over Kaminar, Pike and Tyler end up in battle with time itself. Georgiou has a few tricks up her sleeve for Leland and Section 31.Star Trek Universe Podcast #035 - 'Star Trek: Discovery' 2x07 - "Light and Shadows" Review

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Órbita Discovery. Star Trek Discovery 2x06. Luces y sombras.

FUERA DE ORBITA

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2019 54:00

¡Libertad para los kelpianos! Cuando a Saru se le hincharon los ganglios y descubrió la gran mentira que usan los Ba'ul para mantener a las gentes del planeta Kaminar bajo control, sabíamos que era inevitable que nuestro alienígena favorito de la USS Discovery terminara asumiendo el rol de Braveheart y liandola parda. Y cuando las maquinaciones del Angel Rojo señalan al mundo natal de Saru, es porque el momento ha llegado. Un Saru por momentos cada vez más crecido, acompañado de Burnham, baja a Kaminar en lo que en principio solo es una misión de reconocimiento, pero inevitablemente, no tardará en liarse parda. Y así es: Reencuentros emotivos, lealtades enfrentadas, batallas en el espacio contra un enemigo con una potencia de fuego superior, apariciones aterradoras y revelaciones que dan algunas respuestas, pero generan muchas más preguntas. Todo en un episodio muy especial, donde convergen varias de las tramas que hemos ido viendo en los últimos episodios, y donde se demuestra que los guionistas de Star Trek Discovery no dan puntadas in hilo. Y ahora, un anuncio... Éste también es un episodio significativo para nosotros, porque va a ser el último episodio al que podamos dedicar un monográfico a un episodio de Star Trek Discovery. Por desgracia, el Mundo Real 1.0 no nos deja mucho tiempo libre, y publicar un podcast semanal al ritmo de emisión de Star Trek Discovery es algo que nos resulta muy costoso en lo personal. ¡Pero no creais que Discovery (y vosotros) os vais a librar facilmente de Fuera de Órbita! ¡El Cansinismo es nuestro lema! Vamos a seguir comentando todos los episodios de Star Trek Discovery, pero a partir de ahora comentaremos tres o cuatro episodios juntos en cada podcast, permitiéndonos una periodicidad mensual, semana más, semana menos, que nos resulta más sostenible. Y además, nos permite grabar a casi todos juntos en directo, lo que creemos que nos permite darle a nuestro podcast un toque más fresco (e irnos luego a comer al Foster, que es un plus. :-) ). Gracias a todos por vuestra comprensión. Os aseguramos que nos ha dado mucha pena no poder seguir el ritmo semanal, pero la vida real esa es lo que tiene. Aun así, ya veis que seguiréis escuchándonos hablando de Burnham, Saru, Tilly y cía, solo que tardaremos unas semanas. Con el ambiente tan lleno de taquiones, eso no es nada. :-D Hasta entonces, Long Fun And Prosper!!! (Y además, en los extras de Fuera de Órbita:) Aunque no tenga que ver directamente con Star Trek Discovery, nos hacemos eco del estreno en España esta semana de la película Larga Vida y Prosperidad (Please Stand By, en el original), protagonizada por Dakota Fanning, que cuenta la historia de una joven, que está dentro del espectro autista, y que viaja a Hollywood para presentar un guión... de Star Trek. Aunque la película, por lo que sabemos, se centra en la historia de la protagonista, y las referencias a Star Trek son más la excusa para poner en marcha la historia (eso que llaman el McGuffin), nos ha parecido curioso (y estupendo) que el marketing resalte tanto el elemento trekkie de la historia.

'Light and Shadows' - S2 Ep. 7

Star Trek: Age of Discovery

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2019 34:09

Michael goes to Vulcan seeking Spock. She is alarmed when she sees just how severe her brother’s condition is. Spock is in a highly psychologically regressive state reciting the First Doctrines of Logic. Protective of her son, Amanda ignores her daughter’s pleas to get medical attention for Spock. Sarek finds his family members in the crypt and insists on allowing Michael to take Spock to a Section 31 ship for treatment. Initially, Amanda delivers a passionate argument for holding her son on Vulcan. However, she finally acquiesces when Sarek convinces her that not turning over Spock to the authorities would ultimately damage both Spock’s mental health and Michael’s Starfleet career. As a parallel plot, the Discovery is charged to remain near Kaminar to investigate residual decay of powerful tachyon particles left by one of the red signals. When a time rift opens up near the coordinates under study, Pike decides it to be safer to launch a probe from a shuttle. Although a dangerous mission, Pike assigns himself to the task and Tyler accompanies him to learn firsthand what the analysis may reveal. After launching the probe, the shuttle begins to experience temporal disturbances and finds itself drawn into a temporal rift prohibiting the Discovery from tracking their location.

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Light and Shadows - Star Trek Discovery 02x07 - Disco Night 027

Disco Night: A Star Trek Discovery Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2019 65:26

In which Joe and Jason both gradually convince each other that Star Trek Discovery is picking up the unresolved thread of the Temporal Cold War from Star Trek: Enterprise. The Discovery encounters a time rift above Kaminar, so Captain Pike and our man Voq decide to fly into it. This yields mixed results. They don't die, but they are attacked by a Sentinel from 1999's The Matrix. Burnham misses it all because she's home on Vulcan in the middle of some serious family drama, where Amanda has been secretly hiding Spock for God knows how long. Sarek tells Burnham to turn him into Section 31, but Emperor Georgiou says that's a bad move and helps her escape. So instead, they set course for to Talos IV. Directed by Marta Cunningham, and written by Ted Sullivan and Vaun Wilmott, "Light and Shadows" first aired on February 28th, 2019.

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Discovery: A Star Trek Podcast by Phantastic Geek

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2019

Burnham requests leave to go to Vulcan and track down Spock while Discovery hangs out around Kaminar investigating the Red Angel’s residual signal. Pike and Tyler get swept up in a temporal argument. The numbers are ba… backwards and we have to go back! Matt and Pete have a rollicking good time with episode 207, “Light and Shadows.”We reference the Picard pilot's director, Hanelle Culpepper, here; and as well as an article about Jonathan Frakes directing an episode of the series as well.Thanks as always to everyone who supports the podcast by visiting Patreon.com/PhantasticGeek.Share your feedback for Star Trek: Discovery by emailing PhantasticGeek@gmail.com, commenting at PhantasticGeek.com, or tweeting @PhantasticGeek.MP3iTunes

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Saru in Days of Thunder

Redshirts & Runabouts: A Star Trek Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2019 62:49

With a light news week (yeah we know stuff came out after we recorded), your two Redshirts hosts focus on the latest episode of Star Trek: Discovery “The Sound of Thunder”, the first episode to have a direct and significant connection to an episode of Short Treks, specifically “The Brightest Star”. We’ll be back next...

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Star Trek: Discovery “The Sound of Thunder” Review

The Edge: A Star Trek Discovery Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2019 48:42

Just as Saru is given a second lease on life, and a new found sense of power, the red angel takes the USS Discovery to the Kelpian home world of Kaminar, where Saru's resolve is put to the test. Join in as we give the details on yet another excellent episode of Star Trek Discovery.

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62: A Lot of Hand Holding

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2019 66:07

The Sound of Thunder. The quest for the Red Angel continues as we witness another appearance of the mysterious entity, this time through the ultra-sensitive eyes of Saru. The encounter takes place on Kaminar, Saru's homeward first seen in the Star Trek: Short Treks episode “The Brightest Star.” Once again we meet Saru's sister, Siranna, but a new face also appears: that of the menacing Ba'ul. In an unexpected twist, we learn that the Kelpiens were once the dominant species on Kaminar, the predators that nearly caused the extinction of the Ba'ul. Can these two species co-exist peacefully and find a new Great Balance? In this episode of The Edge, host Amy Nelson is joined by Christopher D. Littlefield to discuss the transformations of Saru, Culber, and Tyler. Each must decide who they will be their “new” life. We also question Pike's decision to activate Vahar'ai in all Kelpiens and whether the desire to save them from imminent destruction outweighs the violation of Starfleet's highest order. Chapters Intro (00:00:00) Transformation in Saru (00:03:53) Seeding (00:15:43) Moral Implications (00:24:36) Nitpicks (00:34:24) Culber's Transformation (00:39:14) Tyler's Transformation (00:48:06) Random Thoughts (00:51:20) Final Thoughts (00:52:11) Closing (00:59:00) Host Amy Nelson Guest Christopher D. Littlefield Production Patrick Devlin (Editor) Amy Nelson (Producer) C Bryan Jones (Executive Producer) Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer) Ken Tripp (Executive Producer) Norman C. Lao (Associate Producer) Tony Robinson (Associate Producer) Lisa Slack (Associate Producer) Tom Puleo (Associate Producer) Shoaib Mirza (Associate Producer) Richard Rutledge (Associate Producer) James Muldrow (Associate Producer) Cornelia Reutner (Associate Producer) Ryan Maillet (Associate Producer) Chris Tribuzio (Associate Producer) Brian Meloche (Associate Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager) Tony Robinson (Show Art) Brandon-Shea Mutala (Patreon Manager)

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S2E6 - The Sound of Thunder

Why the Trek: A Star Trek Discovery Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2019 87:05

This is a long one, sorry, we have a lot to get off our chests. Did the Baul do nothing wrong? That's not a joke, Zach and David seriously consider the question. Zach asks: how can the Disco crew mess up the prime directive when they debated it at length in episode 2? David shares his crazy theory about what the Red Angel is really up to.

DT058: Star Trek Discovery “The Sound of Thunder” Review (Season 2 Episode 6)

The Greatest Discovery: New Star Trek Reviewed

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2019 48:42

Just as Saru is given a second lease on life, and a new found sense of power, the red angel takes the USS Discovery to the Kelpian home world of Kaminar, where Saru's resolve is put to the test. Join in as we give the details on yet another excellent episode of Star Trek Discovery.

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Pink Note (S2E6)

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2019 66:05

When the Red Angel's Red Signals take the Disco to Kaminar it's time for Burnham and post-ganglia-Saru to head to the beach and break bread with a priest. But when Saru threatens to fold the Ba'ul like laundry it's time for the crew to take a big bite of data pie. Will the Kelpians rank supreme? Is the Red Angel digitally enhanced? How sticky are the Ba'ul?It's the episode that's Bringing It All Back Home – AgainSupport our show!

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STDP 031 – The Sound of Thunder (S2E6)

Star Trek Discovery Podcast, featuring Picard and Lower Decks

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2019 104:55

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 2, Episode 6: The Sound of Thunder For episode 31 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I discuss Season 2 Episode 6 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, The Sound of Thunder. It was written by co-producers Bo Yeon Kim & Erika Lippoldt, who are said to be the creators of the new Section 31 series, and directed by Douglas Aarniokoski. You may have seen this referred to as The Sounds of Thunder, as all of the outlets had it as Sounds, but when it premiered, it was only a singular Sound. I’ve already seen several podcasts and YouTubers have it wrong. The Sound of Thunder is correct. Discussion on The Sound of Thunder begins at 17:50… We begin the podcast with feedback from previous episodes. Then, we finally get into this episode at 17 minutes 50 seconds in. Fred’s Pics and Spoiler Alert! We have been blessed yet again with pics chosen by Fred from The Netherlands, including the cover image. We will show them throughout this blog post. To that end, SPOILER ALERT! If you haven’t watched The Sound of Thunder, you may want to stop reading here! Another Big One for Saru… A new signal appears over Kaminar, Saru’s homeworld. Saru hasn’t been back since he left, but since going through the vahar’ai, he has undergone certain changes. Saru doesn’t immediately leave the captain’s chair when Pike is summoned to the bridge, and later borders on being insubordinate when Pike doesn’t choose him for the away team. Burnham diffuses the moment by asking for him to accompany her on the surface. STDP 031 – Star Trek Discovery S2E6 (13:46) – Burnham de-escalating Saru’s outburst STDP 031 – Star Trek Discovery S2E6 (18:14) – Michael taking Saru’s hand STDP 031 – Star Trek Discovery S2E6 (18:09) – Michael (close-up) on Kaminar beach Saru and Burnham meet up with the village priest, only to find out that it’s Saru’s sister, Siranna, who we met during the third Short Trek, The Brightest Star, which was shot at the same time as this episode.

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STDP 031 – Star Trek Discovery – S2E6 – The Sound of Thunder

Star Trek Discovery Podcast, featuring Picard and Lower Decks

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2019 104:55

For episode 31 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and Brian discuss Star Trek: Discovery - S2E6, which is titled, The Sound of Thunder. This episode is written by Bo Yeon Kim & Erika Lippoldt, and directed by Douglas Aarniokoski. This episode continues the search for the seven red signals, right to Saru's home planet of Kaminar. Culber is having trouble adjusting to his new reality. This episode was a fun one to do, and we think it'll be fun to listen to! Read more... The post STDP 031 – Star Trek Discovery – S2E6 – The Sound of Thunder appeared first on Golden Spiral Media- Entertainment Podcasts, Technology Podcasts & More.

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STDP 031 – The Sound of Thunder (S2E6)

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2019 104:55

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 2, Episode 6: The Sound of Thunder For episode 31 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I discuss Season 2 Episode 6 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, The Sound of Thunder. It was written by co-producers Bo Yeon Kim & Erika Lippoldt, who are said to be the creators of the new Section 31 series, and directed by Douglas Aarniokoski. You may have seen this referred to as The Sounds of Thunder, as all of the outlets had it as Sounds, but when it premiered, it was only a singular Sound. I’ve already seen several podcasts and YouTubers have it wrong. The Sound of Thunder is correct. Discussion on The Sound of Thunder begins at 17:50… We begin the podcast with feedback from previous episodes. Then, we finally get into this episode at 17 minutes 50 seconds in. Fred’s Pics and Spoiler Alert! We have been blessed yet again with pics chosen by Fred from The Netherlands, including the cover image. We will show them throughout this blog post. To that end, SPOILER ALERT! If you haven’t watched The Sound of Thunder, you may want to stop reading here! Another Big One for Saru… A new signal appears over Kaminar, Saru’s homeworld. Saru hasn’t been back since he left, but since going through the vahar’ai, he has undergone certain changes. Saru doesn’t immediately leave the captain’s chair when Pike is summoned to the bridge, and later borders on being insubordinate when Pike doesn’t choose him for the away team. Burnham diffuses the moment by asking for him to accompany her on the surface. STDP 031 – Star Trek Discovery S2E6 (13:46) – Burnham de-escalating Saru’s outburst STDP 031 – Star Trek Discovery S2E6 (18:14) – Michael taking Saru’s hand STDP 031 – Star Trek Discovery S2E6 (18:09) – Michael (close-up) on Kaminar beach Saru and Burnham meet up with the village priest, only to find out that it’s Saru’s sister, Siranna, who we met during the third Short Trek, The Brightest Star, which was shot at the same time as this episode.

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STDP 031 – The Sound of Thunder (S2E6)

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Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2019 104:55

Star Trek: Discovery - Season 2, Episode 6: The Sound of Thunder For episode 31 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I discuss Season 2 Episode 6 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, The Sound of Thunder. It was written by co-producers...

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SPOCK ADJACENT 14 - Star Trek Discovery S2E6 'The Sound of Thunder'

Micheaux Mission

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2019 31:02

Discovery returns to Kaminar, Saru's homeward, to complete the journey begun 2 episodes ago as Saru confronts his past and his people's future. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Star Trek Discovery S2E6 'The Sound of Thunder'

Spock Adjacent

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2019

Discovery returns to Kaminar, Saru's homeward, to complete the journey begun 2 episodes ago as Saru confronts his past and his people's future.

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STDP 031 – The Sound of Thunder (S2E6)

Star Trek Discovery Podcast, featuring Picard and Lower Decks

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2019 104:55

Star Trek: Discovery - Season 2, Episode 6: The Sound of Thunder For episode 31 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie and I discuss Season 2 Episode 6 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, The Sound of Thunder. It was written by co-producers...

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Black Alert 006 – Discovery S02E06

Cast Wars Podcasts

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 25, 2019

Olá humanos, vulcanos e klingons de todo o Brasil! Bem-vindo a mais um Black Alert, o seu podcast de Jornada nas Estrelas! Nessa sexta edição, somos chamados pelo Anjo Vermelho para Kaminar, planeta natal de Saru, e aprontamos poucas e boas com essa galerinha da pesada da USS Discovery. Vem com a gente! Contato: Facebook: http://facebook.com/blackalertbr Twitter: http://twitter.com/blackalertbr Email: contato@blackalert.com.br Feed: Feedburner / iTunes / Spotify

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"The Sound of Thunder" - Star Trek: Discovery (#232)

Subspace Transmissions: A Star Trek Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 25, 2019

Hosts Cam Smith and Tyler Orton toss on some non-descript robes and go undercover on Kaminar this week in order to analyze Saru's highly dramatic and eventful homecoming and family reunion. They also offer up Red Angel theories that straddle the line between possible and absurd, and ponder the similarities between the Ba'ul and the TNG gang's strangest early nemesis. Right-click to download!Read more »

Black Alert 006 – Discovery S02E06

Cast Wars Podcasts

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 25, 2019

Olá humanos, vulcanos e klingons de todo o Brasil! Bem-vindo a mais um Black Alert, o seu podcast de Jornada nas Estrelas! Nessa sexta edição, somos chamados pelo Anjo Vermelho para Kaminar, planeta natal de Saru, e aprontamos poucas e boas com essa galerinha da pesada da USS Discovery. Vem com a gente! Contato: Facebook: http://facebook.com/blackalertbr Twitter: http://twitter.com/blackalertbr Email: contato@blackalert.com.br Feed: Feedburner / iTunes / Spotify

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The Sound of Thunder - Star Trek Discovery 02x06 - Disco Night 026

Disco Night: A Star Trek Discovery Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2019 67:42

Another signal appears, this time over Saru's home planet, Kaminar. Discovery immediately gets caught between the plight of the Kelpiens and the seemingly predatory species, the Ba'ul. But like most things, there's more going on than meets the eye. Hannah Spear returns as Siranna, Javier Botet plays the Baul, and David Benjamin Tomlinson returns as Linus and as a random Kelpien. The Sound of Thunder was directed by Douglas Aarniokoski and written by Bo Yeon Kim and Erika Lipoldt.

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058: STAR TREK: DISCOVERY S2xE06, “THE SOUND OF THUNDER”

Tex-Trek: A Star Trek Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2019 78:40

 Welcome back to the starship Texas for the 58th installment of the TEX-TREK podcast. Fatheree and Dave explore Saru’s homeward of Kaminar in the STAR TREK: DISCOVERY episode, “THE SOUND OF THUNDER.” Check us out on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/hdBRZ794rEg

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'The Sound of Thunder' - S2 Ep. 6

Star Trek: Age of Discovery

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2019 25:06

Today's episode features an analysis of Episode 206, “The Sound of Thunder.” The appearance of a red signal near Kaminar gets the attention of The Discovery. Saru is conflicted about the Discovery’s mission simply to investigate the red signal sighting and any possible knowledge of the elusive Red Angel. The Ba'ul, have subjugated the Kelpiens with their superior technology and killed them before they experience Vaha'rai, an experience Kelpiens are taught they do not survive. Saru is the only member of his people who has survived Vaha'rai. His discovery is that, although painful, it is a natural part of their evolutionary process to reach a more mature stage of development. This information - and the revelation about life among the stars and the miracle of the Red Angel - puts the entire Kelpien people in danger of extinction. How to watch Season Two: Star Trek: Discovery is available exclusively in the USA on CBS All Access. It airs in Canada on Space and streams on CraveTV. It is available on Netflix everywhere else. Star Trek: Age of Discovery is a fan podcast for the CBS All Access show STAR TREK: DISCOVERY. Subscribe to Star Trek: Age of Discovery in iTunes by CLICKING HERE. Email the show at startrekaod@gmail.com. Follow us on Twitter at @StarTrekAoD and on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/StarTrekAoD/. Visit our website at http://startrekaod.net where we offer additional articles on Star Trek canon, interesting sidebar issues and aspects of the show. 2019 © Star Trek: Age of Discovery

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Papo Extra - Star Trek Discovery: O Som do Trovão

Papo Cinefans

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2019 8:08

Nesse Papo Extra, André Figueiredo fala sobre o sexto episódio da temporada de Discovery, como a trama sobre os anjos vermelhos está se desenvolvendo e claro, sobre a visita da nave a Kaminar. O que achou do papo e do episódio, deixe seus comentários no Cinefans. E não esqueçam que hoje tem o Oscar.

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Episodenbesprechung: Star Trek Discovery - "The Sounds of Thunder" (S02E06)

Discovery Panel

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2019 169:37

Wenn sich die Discovery nach Kaminar bewegt, dann bewegen wir uns sofort in Diskussionen um die oberste Direktive, die in "Star Trek: Discovery" noch "General Order One" genannt wird. Und in diesen Diskussionen verzetteln sich in dieser Episode zwei Podcaster, die doch eigentlich nur eine tolle Folge genießen wollen. Aber hört selbst, was wir zu sagen und zu diskutieren haben. Das Video "Steve Ballmer going crazy" findet ihr hier: https://youtu.be/I14b-C67EXY Das Video zu John Williams Songs findet ihr hier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4 Brecht doch bitte die oberste Direktive und mischt euch ein: https://itunes.apple.com/de/podcast/discovery-panel/id1287128600?mt=2

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206 "The Sound of Thunder"

Discovery: A Star Trek Podcast by Phantastic Geek

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2019

The third mysterious Red Angel signal brings the Discovery to Saru’s home world of Kaminar, where the truth about the relationship between the Kelpiens and the secretive Baul is revealed. Matt and Pete keep an ear out for episode 206, “The Sound of Thunder.”Thanks as always to everyone who supports the podcast by visiting Patreon.com/PhantasticGeek.Share your feedback for Star Trek: Discovery by emailing PhantasticGeek@gmail.com, commenting at PhantasticGeek.com, or tweeting @PhantasticGeek.MP3iTunes

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Discovering Trek: A Star Trek Discovery Companion The Sound Of Thunder

Trek Geeks Podcast Network

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2019 60:40

SPOILER ALERT One of the mysterious Red Bursts shows up over Saru's home planet of Kaminar which allows him to go back to the home he thought he would never see again. His return is not as positive as he hoped as the Ba'ul show up and threaten the crew of Discovery as well as the entire population of Kelpiens on the surface! Plus, Dr. Hugh Culber is dealing with the fact that he is alive...again...and he seems to be having trouble accepting what has happened to him! Joining Dan and Bill to examine this episode is our dear friend Kasey Shafsky, who helped co-produce the acclaimed web series Star Trek Continues and had the honor of playing a mirror universe Vulcan who gets vaporized in Episode 3! We will discuss the Ba'ul, Saru's reunion with his sister Sarinna and the huge ramifications the Red Angel has on The Great Balance! We’ll also give you predictions as to what we think could happen both next week and during the season, and we'll reveal what we discovered about our own humanity in this latest episode of Star Trek Discovery. =/= Music for Discovering Trek is provided by Five Year Mission. They’re writing one song for each episode of The Original Series and their brand new album, Year 4, is AVAILABLE NOW! Find out more and download all their albums at FiveYearMission.net

The Sound Of Thunder

Discovering Trek: A Star Trek Discovery Companion

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2019 60:40

SPOILER ALERT One of the mysterious Red Bursts shows up over Saru's home planet of Kaminar which allows him to go back to the home he thought he would never see again. His return is not as positive as he hoped as the Ba'ul show up and threaten the crew of Discovery as well as the entire population of Kelpiens on the surface! Plus, Dr. Hugh Culber is dealing with the fact that he is alive...again...and he seems to be having trouble accepting what has happened to him! Joining Dan and Bill to examine this episode is our dear friend Kasey Shafsky, who helped co-produce the acclaimed web series Star Trek Continues and had the honor of playing a mirror universe Vulcan who gets vaporized in Episode 3! We will discuss the Ba'ul, Saru's reunion with his sister Sarinna and the huge ramifications the Red Angel has on The Great Balance! We’ll also give you predictions as to what we think could happen both next week and during the season, and we'll reveal what we discovered about our own humanity in this latest episode of Star Trek Discovery. =/= Music for Discovering Trek is provided by Five Year Mission. They’re writing one song for each episode of The Original Series and their brand new album, Year 4, is AVAILABLE NOW! Find out more and download all their albums at FiveYearMission.net

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Short Treks 4: The Brightest Star

Why the Trek: A Star Trek Discovery Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2019 37:42

Special guest host Derek joins David to discuss this Short Trek. Derek points out the similarities between the Baul and Hirogen. We wonder if Baul technology is like Legos, or if Saru is some kind of savant. Finally, we acknowledge how "empty" the ending left us, and hope for a follow-up in the future!

STDP 029 – An Obol for Charon (S2E4)

Star Trek Discovery Podcast, featuring Picard and Lower Decks

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2019 111:11

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 2, Episode 4: An Obol for Charon For episode 29 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie is out sick, but I was able to get emergency guest co-host Wes Huntington from the Minnesota Star Trek Nerd Podcast to fill in, as we discuss Season 2 Episode 4 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, An Obol for Charon. The teleplay was written by producer Alan McElroy (I got his name wrong during the recording – it’s Alan, not Adam) & co-executive producer Andrew Colville, the story was written by co-executive producer Jordon Nardino & showrunners Gretchen J. Berg & Aaron Harberts (who were still showrunners at the time). It was directed by Lee Rose. She also directed S1E5 Choose Your Pain. Fred’s Pics! We have been blessed yet again with pics chosen by Fred from The Netherlands, including the cover image. We will show them throughout this blog post. A Tough One for Saru… It was a tough episode for Commander Saru. It looked like we would be losing the first and only Kelpien in Starfleet during this episode, and they sold that death. I had myself questioning it. Could they kill him off? Would this be the right time to do that? I knew we see his sister Siranna in the last trailer, but I thought that maybe it could end up being a flashback or a hallucination before death. When it looked like he was going to die, though, he didn’t die. He evolved. One of his most problematic traits, his threat ganglia, are gone for good, and he feels like he’s never felt before. I loved the Burnham/Saru scenes, showing that the bickering we had seen early on was the behavior of brother and sister. It took a tragedy for them both to admit it to each other, and to themselves. So, what will become of Saru, and the Kelpiens, who were being culled, seemingly as a part of a big lie. Time will tell. STDP 029 – Saru in Full Makeup I liked Saru’s quarters, by the way. Very idyllic. STDP 029 – Saru’s Quarters A Tough One for Tilly… This was also a tough episode for Tilly, and looks like the next one will be, too. The blob formerly seen as May has attached itself to Tilly, and isn’t going to easily let go. Tilly gets a drill to the head to facilitate communications, which had to hurt. At the end of the episode, we see Tilly’s been consumed by the blob. For what purpose, we cannot know. STDP 029 – A Distressed Tilly

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STDP 029 – An Obol for Charon (S2E4)

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2019 111:11

Star Trek: Discovery – Season 2, Episode 4: An Obol for Charon For episode 29 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie is out sick, but I was able to get emergency guest co-host Wes Huntington from the Minnesota Star Trek Nerd Podcast to fill in, as we discuss Season 2 Episode 4 of Star Trek: Discovery, which is titled, An Obol for Charon. The teleplay was written by producer Alan McElroy (I got his name wrong during the recording – it’s Alan, not Adam) & co-executive producer Andrew Colville, the story was written by co-executive producer Jordon Nardino & showrunners Gretchen J. Berg & Aaron Harberts (who were still showrunners at the time). It was directed by Lee Rose. She also directed S1E5 Choose Your Pain. Fred’s Pics! We have been blessed yet again with pics chosen by Fred from The Netherlands, including the cover image. We will show them throughout this blog post. A Tough One for Saru… It was a tough episode for Commander Saru. It looked like we would be losing the first and only Kelpien in Starfleet during this episode, and they sold that death. I had myself questioning it. Could they kill him off? Would this be the right time to do that? I knew we see his sister Siranna in the last trailer, but I thought that maybe it could end up being a flashback or a hallucination before death. When it looked like he was going to die, though, he didn’t die. He evolved. One of his most problematic traits, his threat ganglia, are gone for good, and he feels like he’s never felt before. I loved the Burnham/Saru scenes, showing that the bickering we had seen early on was the behavior of brother and sister. It took a tragedy for them both to admit it to each other, and to themselves. So, what will become of Saru, and the Kelpiens, who were being culled, seemingly as a part of a big lie. Time will tell. STDP 029 – Saru in Full Makeup I liked Saru’s quarters, by the way. Very idyllic. STDP 029 – Saru’s Quarters A Tough One for Tilly… This was also a tough episode for Tilly, and looks like the next one will be, too. The blob formerly seen as May has attached itself to Tilly, and isn’t going to easily let go. Tilly gets a drill to the head to facilitate communications, which had to hurt. At the end of the episode, we see Tilly’s been consumed by the blob. For what purpose, we cannot know. STDP 029 – A Distressed Tilly

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STDP 029 – An Obol for Charon (S2E4)

Star Trek Discovery Podcast, featuring Picard and Lower Decks

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2019 111:11

For episode 29 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie is out sick, but we have special guest co-host Wes Huntington of the Minnesota Star Trek Nerd Podcast to co-host in her place, as we discuss Star Trek: Discovery - S2E4, which is titled, An Obol for Charon. The episode's teleplay is by Adam McElroy and Andrew Colville. The episode's story is by Jordon Nardino & Gretchen J. Berg & Aaron Harberts. It is directed by Lee Rose. The search for Spock (no pun intended) hits a snag, as the Discovery encounters a big entity in space, the size of a small moon. The entity seems to bring on vaharai, the final cycle of life for Saru's species, or so we think. Meanwhile, Tilly, Stamets and Reno work in Engineering, as May has retaliates.

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STDP 029 – An Obol for Charon (S2E4)

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2019 111:11

For episode 29 of The Star Trek Discovery Podcast, Ruthie is out sick, but we have special guest co-host Wes Huntington of the Minnesota Star Trek Nerd Podcast to co-host in her place, as we discuss Star Trek: Discovery - S2E4, which is titled, An Obol for Charon. The episode's teleplay is by Adam McElroy and Andrew Colville. The episode's story is by Jordon Nardino & Gretchen J. Berg & Aaron Harberts. It is directed by Lee Rose. The search for Spock (no pun intended) hits a snag, as the Discovery encounters a big entity in space, the size of a small moon. The entity seems to bring on vaharai, the final cycle of life for Saru's species, or so we think. Meanwhile, Tilly, Stamets and Reno work in Engineering, as May has retaliates.

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STDP 023 – Short Treks Episode 3 – The Brightest Star

Star Trek Discovery Podcast, featuring Picard and Lower Decks

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2018 31:22

Star Trek: Discovery - Short Treks, Episode 3: The Brightest Star Ruthie and I are back with the third Short Trek! We recorded episodes for the first three Short Treks on Tuesday, December 18th in back to back to back fashion, and this is the final...

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STDP 023 – Short Treks Episode 3 – The Brightest Star

Star Trek Discovery Podcast, featuring Picard and Lower Decks

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2018 31:22

Star Trek: Discovery – Short Treks, Episode 3: The Brightest Star Ruthie and I are back with the third Short Trek! We recorded episodes for the first three Short Treks on Tuesday, December 18th in back to back to back fashion, and this is the final episode that we recorded that night. This Short Trek is titled The Brightest Star. It was written by executive story editors Bo Yeon Kim and Erika Lippoldt, and directed by co-executive producer Douglas Aarniokoski. Finally, an origin story! This is the first Short Trek that I would consider an origin story. This one focuses on our favorite alien commander, Saru! Well, he’s at least the favorite alien for one of us. As such, Ruthie didn’t care for this episode as much as I did, as she’s not a big fan of his character and/or species, which she finds confusing. I understand that sentiment, as I was expecting more backstory on the prey aspects of his species, and his height, super speed, strength and especially his threat ganglia. I came up with a theory on how this evolved. His species was hunted, probably by the Ba’ul, but that Mirror Universe saying about scared Kelpiens make tough Kelpiens plays in here. The hunt made Kelpiens less tasty, so a system evolved to make them live in a more idyllic surrounding, and that they didn’t live with that fear their whole life. As I’ve said on the podcast many a time, I HATE the term “headcanon”, so I’d prefer to consider this speculation and not anything that can be used as “gatekeeper” material. Speaking of an origin story, are we to believe that the reason why Saru’s species are called Kelpiens because they eat and/or harvest kelp? Really? That’s a little on the nose, don’t you think? Why did she take a shuttlecraft? I was very pleasantly surprised to find out that Lieutenant Georgiou was the one that rescued Saru from Kaminar, and that totally fits the Saru/Georgiou/Burnham dynamic, and why he was so hurt that he didn’t get to serve as the first officer under her. The appearance of Michelle Yeoh was very unexpected in any of these Short Treks, so I was very happy to see her. However, with that in mind, I did not understand part of that aspect of the story. Was there a reason why she took a shuttlecraft down to pick up Saru and not beam down to get him? This seems like the Prime Directive is under effect here, as the Kelpiens are not a warp-capable species, and we see Siranna see the shuttle as it leaves the planet, so this didn’t make sense to me. Fred’s Images As promised, I’ve included images Fred from The Netherlands sent us from his trip to Toronto last year, which showed scenes used in this Short Trek! STDP 023 – Fred from The Netherlands – Images from The Brightest Star 1: Fred’s photo taken on the 25th August 2017 2: Scene from Orphan Black 3: The Opening scene from Short Trek Episode 3 “The Brightest Star”

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STDP 023 – Short Treks Episode 3 – The Brightest Star

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2018 31:22

Star Trek: Discovery - Short Treks, Episode 3: The Brightest Star Ruthie and I are back with the third Short Trek! We recorded episodes for the first three Short Treks on Tuesday, December 18th in back to back to back fashion, and this is the final...

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STDP 023 – Short Treks Episode 3 – The Brightest Star