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The Next Trip is a weekly podcast with aviation insiders Doug and Drew, who together bring more than 40 years of industry experience as a professional pilot and a hub operations manager at a major airline. Join them, and their frequent guests, as they create a network for other AvGeeks and travel enthusiasts to obsess about all things aviation. Doug and Drew discuss today’s aviation news, share personal operational stories, regale listeners with trip reviews, and engage in friendly AvGeek banter. All thoughts and opinions are their own.Visit us at www.nexttripnetwork.com or follow us on Twitter at @nexttrippodcast

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    • Jun 2, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
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    The Next Trip - An Aviation and Travel Podcast is simply awesome. Drew and Doug provide an informative and fun weekly update on all things aviation that is sure to delight aviation enthusiasts. As someone who grew up with a father in aviation, I have always had a love for travel and planes. This podcast not only bolsters that love, but it also gives me a deeper insight into the industry. It's personally heartwarming to see Drew achieve his passions and live his dream in aviation. I can't wait to hear more from this podcast.

    One of the best aspects of The Next Trip is the blend of funny and informative content. With one host being an ops agent and the other a pilot in the USAF, they offer different perspectives on the nonrev, airline, and aviation world. This provides a well-rounded view of the industry that keeps listeners engaged. Additionally, their experience and knowledge shine through, making each episode both educational and entertaining.

    While there aren't many negative aspects to this podcast, one potential downside is its US-centered focus. As someone from Switzerland working for a German airline, I sometimes wish for more topics that are relevant to an international audience. However, even with this minor drawback, I still find the podcast highly informative and helpful in expanding my aviation knowledge.

    In conclusion, The Next Trip - An Aviation and Travel Podcast is a must-listen for any aviation enthusiast. With its informative content, entertaining hosts, and passion for the industry, it stands out among other aviation-themed podcasts. Whether you're working in aviation or simply have a love for planes and travel like myself, this podcast is sure to keep you informed and entertained. Keep up the great work Doug and Drew!



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    Boarding Pass 288: Blue Sky

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2025 54:38


    Send us a textDrew is preparing mentally for overnight shifts, as airport ops manager,  and Doug is done with KC46 flying and is about to fly to Frankfurt. We discuss:A European country cracks down on a common practiceAirbus delivery delays737 MAX newsThe “new” Southwest arrivesJetBlue's new allianceAirplane waterhttps://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 287: Airport Design Aircraft

    Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2025 50:49


    Send us a textDoug is back from Paris and Drew responded to his first birdstrike or “snarge”.  We get into how bird strikes affect safety and what we do to mitigate them. Also on this episode:Snarge is large - bird strikes happen all the time777X updateTransatlantic flight cancelationsFAA reduces flights at EWRAn airport's "design aircraft"Listener comments FAA Bird Strike DatabaseDoug's Paris Eiffel Tower Pizza place - Gennarina Pizzeria https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 286: Airport Slots

    Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2025 60:46


    Send us a textDrew is still learning how to do runway inspections and Doug pushes the 767 to the limit (in a simulator). We discuss:Alaska, or Hawaiian?, launches Transpacific flights from SeattleMore news out of NewarkA thaw in tariffs opens the order floodgatesBack to the future with slot restrictions at EWR?Contributor feedbackJoin the conversation!https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 285: Squawking is for the Birds

    Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2025 51:19


    Send us a textDoug is back from London, no wait, Beijing(?), while Drew is just off a week of midnight shifts - we're both sleep deprived but caffeined up for a fun episode. We discuss:Aviation momsHeart Aerospace moves to the USJetblue updateGlobal Airlines might actually flyAirport bond ratingsSquawking, its not just for the birdsJoin the discussion!https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 284: JetBlue and...

    Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2025 61:18


    Send us a textDoug is back from whirlwind Air Force and airline trips around the Pacific and to Chicago and Drew passed his airport movement area driving test. We discuss:U.S. cities that supposedly resemble European cities Airspace trouble between India and PakistanA bright spot in the travel sectorLatest JetBlue gossip and rumors, which is changing by the day…Listener feedback Join the conversation! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 283: Airport Funding

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2025 49:51


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    Boarding Pass 282: Boeing Trouble in China

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2025 56:08


    Send us a textDrew is on his 2nd week of training at his airport ops manager job and Doug flew the skies of California in a KC46. We discuss:Aviation action figuresEconomic uncertainty and Boeing delivery woeseVTOL plans for NYCListener feedback Join the conversation!https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 281: Airport Operations

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 14, 2025 52:42


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    Boarding Pass 280: Mixed Signals Part II

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2025 55:39


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    Boarding Pass 279: Travel Downturn?

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2025 57:26


    Send us a textDoug is back from Honolulu and Drew celebrated his retirment from the airlines. We discuss:Airlines see bookings dropPilots not packing passports More DCA midair drama, this time with an Air Force jet and a kiteAviation legislation through the yearsListener comments Flight plans for this weekJoin the conversation!https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 278: Moving On

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2025 60:51


    Send us a textDoug is on the KC46 simulators this week and Drew has some big career news. We're also planning California and Hawaii trips.Airport theoryNew pick to lead the FAAFrontier takes a swipe at SouthwestListener's airport list - plus our own Drew's big newsMore listener feedback Join the conversation!https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 277: Southwest and Spirit do a 180

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2025 54:24


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    Boarding Pass 276: We Have No Choice

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2025 60:23


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    Boarding Pass 275: Aircraft Leasing

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2025 50:34


    Send us a textDoug is in Taipei, again, and Drew is back after 24hrs in Paris. Neither time zones, sleep deprivation, nor fatigue will keep us from recording an episode! We discuss:Southwest aborted landing at MDW due to private jetGE wins huge engine order from JapanArcher Aviation releases 2024 results and updates on the MidnightFAA firings and hirings and Starlink vs Verizon for the FAA's internet serviceWet and dry leases - what are they?Contributor 5 STAR rating Join the conversation!https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 274: Delta Connection Flight 4819

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2025 53:15


    Send us a textDrew comes back from sun and warmth to freezing temps and deicing and Doug gets a day off with his AF reserve flight canceled. We discuss:Airlines continue their return to Israel as the ceasefire holdsSouthwest announced first-ever layoffsBoeing updated its 20-year forecast for Southeast AsiaBoom supersonic test flights revealed something that has the chance of being a massive game changerA Delta Connection CRJ-900 crashed on arrival in TorontoContributor feedback Join the conversation!https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 273: Top Airlines of the World

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2025 50:34


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    Boarding Pass 272: Around the Pacific

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2025 61:29


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    Boarding Pass 271: PSA Airlines Flight 5342

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2025 49:24


    Send us a textWe look at the facts after a tragic accident involving a Blackhawk helicopter and AA5342 from Wichita to Washington Reagan National operated by a PSA CRJ700. Our thoughts are with the families and our extended airline family at PSA and American Airlines. https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 270: Drew Saves Foreign Relations

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2025 63:06


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    Boarding Pass 269:

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2025 43:14


    Send us a textDoug is taping from warm Taipei and Drew is back from cold Chicago to colder DC. We discuss:Deice procedures reviewSouthwest and Spirit cut costsDOT fines more airlines for recurring delaysMore orders for new 767s?FAA doesn't mandate thrust reversers Join the conversation!https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 268: Greetings From Virgin

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2025 59:37


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    Boarding Pass 267: Flying into 2025

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2025 49:00


    Send us a textDrew started 2025 flying to Denver for work and Doug is finishing a fun (and stressful) couple weeks at home. Drew is also prepping for the biggest Mid Atlantic storm in years. We discuss:Winter Storm BlairThe most on time airlines of 2024Jetblue gets the first ever DOT fines for chronic delaysArcher Aviation gets ready to build eVTOLsJeju Air offices are raided by policeHow to slow down a plane on landing Join the discussion! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 266: Looking Forward After a Terrible Week

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2024 40:25


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    Boarding Pass 265: AvGeek Stocking Stuffers

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 23, 2024 54:45


    Send us a textDoug is back from New York and Tokyo and Drew is on a much needed break from a busy start to the Christmas travel week. There's no huge aviation news this week so we have a bunch fun news stocking stuffers for you. On this episode we discuss:Christmas season passenger volumes and possible disruptionsANA acquires 100% of LCC Peach AirAir Kerala plans to launch in mid 2025Archer Aviation and Joby Aviation make progress with their eVTOL air taxisFrontier brings back an all-you-can-fly passChina Airlines brings cheer to Boeing and Airbus with widebody ordersUnited has a new widebody route surprise for DenverWe unpack OAG's just released busiest routes lists https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 264: Year of the Christmas Market

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2024 59:14


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    Boarding Pass 263: The Top (And Bottom) 10 Airlines

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2024 51:38


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    Boarding Pass 262: Deplaning

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2024 49:09


    Send us a textThe holiday travel season is starting and Doug and Drew will be both airline employees and passengers. We're excited about our travel this week and about the busy season, at work, before us. We discuss:Our Thanksgiving feasts.TSA forecasts the busiest Thanksgiving travel week ever.Better ways to deplane.Emirates' Tim Clark is upset about Boeing delays.Cathay Pacific sees traffic above pre-pandemic levels by January.Join the conversation! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 261: Spirit Files for Bankruptcy

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 25, 2024 60:06


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    Boarding Pass 260: Where Do We Go From Here?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2024 55:39


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    Boarding Pass 259: Bye Bye Bouncies

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2024 54:16


    Doug has just arrived in Taipei after a 14 hour flight and Drew welcomes the first new 787 into the fleet in 2 years. We discuss:The US elections and how it affects aviation.Boeing machinists are back at work!Boom Aeropace's Overture test aircraft gets closer to the speed of sound.We say goodbye to SFO's bouncy walkways.Why do some different versions of aircraft have different tail sizes?Join the conversation! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 258: The XLR Arrives

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 4, 2024 52:56


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    Boarding Pass 257: From Packages to Passengers

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2024 57:48


    Our buddy and 2nd time guest, Stephen,  joins us to talk about going from cargo to passenger flying. We had to have him on atfer a hotline message last week where he wanted to strangle us about our pronunciation of new airline destinations. Stephen stays to discuss:Indian carriers are menaced by multiple bomb threats.Frontier and Spirit talk merger, again.The FAA issues final rules for eVTOL or advanced air mobility aircraft.We compare Boeing's machinist strike with Eastern Airlines strike and shutdown.Follow Stephen on Instagram or Threads at @captain_phteven. Join the discussion!https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 256: Trouble on Both Sides of the Pond

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2024 53:15


    Doug and Drew have an impromptu avgeek meetup in DC, Doug packs sweaters and hula shirts for this trip, and Drew welcomes pandas back to DC.  In this episode we discuss: Panda Diplomacy.The recipe for frost .Marburg Virus and aviation.Delta and United 3rd Quarter Results.Boeing raising cash while troubles arise at Airbus.Join the discussion! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 255: The Freedoms

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2024 46:20


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    Boarding Pass 254: Lift Defined

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2024 52:12


    Drew celebrates 25 years at the company and gets a visit from world traveler and frequent guest, Ian. Doug takes the jumpseat on a personal trip home and feels like he's at work. We discuss: Mark Cuban asks for lifetime travel. Israel's ground offensive in Lebanon causes more flight disruptions. Spirit fights to stay out of bankruptcy. Boeing machinists stay on strike. FAA clears United of safety concerns. We discuss the the holy grail of aviation - lift Join the discussion! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 253: KC10 Extender Farewell

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2024 51:56


    Doug has an emotional send off to the last KC10 in service. We remember the KC10 and its predecessor, the DC10, with stories about our most memorable flights. Doug also talks about his trip to NYC, cough, Newark, and Drew recaps his Winter Kickoff meeting and short(er) field landings on the Cessna 172.  We also discuss: Southwest Airlines operational changes.. Hurricane Helene and how airlines are affected. Safety advances in aviationhttps://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 252: Alaska and Hawaiian's Future

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2024 56:35


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    Boarding Pass 251: Contact, Incursions, Strikes, and Shakeups

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2024 54:24


    Doug is back from London, which we love, and Drew's back on the Cessna 172. We talk about Thai food in London, a wedding in Philadelphia, and pickleball in DC, oh and aviation too

    Boarding Pass 250: Partner Swap

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2024 51:14


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    Boarding Pass 249: What's the Problem with the 777X?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 2, 2024 54:04


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    Boarding Pass 248: Staying Ahead of the Plane

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2024 55:18


    Aired on August 26, 2024Doug is back from a rainy Amsterdam and Drew is recovering from the recovery after storms last week. We discuss:Horizon diversion and high minimum captains…it's not an emergency! Elliott Management demands drastic changes at Southwest.US Air Force receives Archer Midnight eVTOL aircraft. Is Addis Ababa the next Dubai of aviation?Alaska/Hawaiian merger, we good? Not so fastStaying ahead of the aircraft - listeners tell us what that means.Join the conversation! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 247: The Boeing 247

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2024 43:41


    Doug's getting used to his new plane, the KC46, and so is Drew on the Cessna 172. Both of us are enjoying flying as anxiety about learning a new plane eases. We also discuss:Takeoff and travel vibe music.Is the Alaska/Hawaiian merger imminent?Boeing and United make nice nice, they were the same company after all.Voepass 2283 crash and a discussion on icing and  lift.Join the conversation! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 246: Basic Business

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2024 48:23


    Drew couldn't escape thunderstorms and diversions this week and Doug becomes a KC46 trainer. Doug and family brave the summer load factors and nonrev to Denver. We discuss:Basic Business? Delta may unbundle Business, eliminating perks like lounge accessUnited sunsetting their inflight magazine, HemispheresStarliner astronauts stuck on the ICC wait for a flight homeCathay Pacific investing in its product and ordering A330-300neosDelta vs Crowdstrike…who's to blame for Delta's extended IRROPs?Flight delays and compensation Join the conversation https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 245: A "Disappointing" Record Breaking Quarter and a New Beginning at Boeing

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 5, 2024 61:09


    Boarding Pass 244: Not Your Grandma's Southwest

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2024 53:50


    Drew is back from New Zealand and Australia and Doug is just off a triangle route, going from San Francisco to Tokyo to New York and back. We recap our trips and discuss:Paris Olympics causes Delta and Air France financial losses.Crowdstrike strikes the airlines.Farnborough airshow orders. Southwest Airlines low flying planes, seat assignments, and premium seating.Doug going to Amsterdam next week and Drew's back to Cessna 172 school.Join the conversation!https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 243: Down Undah

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 22, 2024 45:55


    Drew made it to New Zealand but it wasn't without some drama. Doug gives the 767 simulator a workout with some dangerours scenarios. We also discuss:Carriers increase service to New Zealand from the US.FAA grants Boeing a TIA (type inspection authorization) for the 777-9, giving it the green light for certification. We compare the 777-9 to its predecessor, the 777-300ER. Pan Am rising again? We talk about a new company trying to reimagine the legendary carrier. Join the discussion!Check out our map of things to do in Auckland and on the North Island!https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 242: Drew Flies Alone

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2024 59:02


    Joe, Drew's flight instructor, joins us to talk about teaching people to fly. His last lesson as a CFI happened to be Drew's solo flight! We discuss:Drew's still on cloud 9 after soloingWhat got Joe into aviation Boeing pleads guilty of fraudLufthansa purchases 41% of ITA TSA breaks a passenger screening record of over 3 million Joe gives advice to prospective pilots Join the conversation! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 241: Ryan Can Fly and Move Planes

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2024 64:17


    Special guest, Ryan, joins us to talk about becoming a private pilot and supervising the Move Team. Doug is back from a domestic 777 circuit including SFO, IAH, DEN, and OGG (Maui). He talks about landing a huge plane on a tiny runway. We also discuss:CRJ200 hate speech is exposedBoeing brings Spirit Aerosystems, that makes 737 fuselages, back in-houseAre Air Force uniforms as uncomfortable as they lookDrew is planning to solo for the 1st time.  Will he be cockpit blocked again?Join the conversation! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

    Boarding Pass 240: Rawdoggin

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2024 60:24


    Rawdogging is the challenge of taking a long flight with no IFE, books, music, or sleep. Rawdoggers sit there staring at the cabin, out the window, and at the airshow map - basically what avgeeks do everyday. We're calling cultural appropriation!

    Boarding Pass 239: Rocking Chairs and SSTs

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2024 52:24


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    Boarding Pass 238: 40-Year-Old Virgin

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2024 52:21


    Virgin Atlantic celebrates 40 years of service this month. We reminisce about the groundbeaking airline's growth and how it's looking to rejuvenate with new management. In other news, Doug is summering in Breckenridge and, for balance, Drew's operations center is flooded. Spoiler…it was a crappy situation. Also on this episode: Alaska loses to the Virgin Group in a $160 million trademark case. FAA reports unruly passenger incidents remain high. Lufthansa and IAG being asked for more concessions for their acquisitions of ITA and Air Europa, respectively. Southwest's new investor, Elliott Investment Management, demands cchanges. What is a coterminal and what does that mean for passengers Join the conversation! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

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