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Today the Pugs discuss a provocative essay in the English publication, AirMail by Tara Isabella Burton. In this article she explores a new and very self-conscious religious disposition that is taking hold among tech elites in Silicon Valley. While there has been some buzz about a revival of interest in Christianity there, this is something very different, somewhat Gnostic, and very neopagan. Join the pugs as they reflect on it. Article Referenced: https://airmail.news/issues/2025-5-24/the-view-from-herefbclid=IwY2xjawKsh8NleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETEyVnZXc29rSGpwaEFsQjRsAR5DHSu0LY04GYS7rDcYlDWzeZXQYiZ7OxvHCNAxLWdcqmfN05x5VHG8P2U6Ww_aem_Oj0e41ftR3pRfMQGqMQrhA Support the Pugcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thetheologypugcast?fbclid=IwAR17UHhfzjphO52C_kkZfursA_C784t0ldFix0wyB4fd-YOJpmOQ3dyqGf8
Today the Pugs discuss a provocative essay in the English publication, AirMail by Tara Isabella Burton. In this article she explores a new and very self-conscious religious disposition that is taking hold among tech elites in Silicon Valley. While there has been some buzz about a revival of interest in Christianity there, this is something very different, somewhat Gnostic, and very neopagan. Join the pugs as they reflect on it.Article Referenced: https://airmail.news/issues/2025-5-24/the-view-from-herefbclid=IwY2xjawKsh8NleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETEyVnZXc29rSGpwaEFsQjRsAR5DHSu0LY04GYS7rDcYlDWzeZXQYiZ7OxvHCNAxLWdcqmfN05x5VHG8P2U6Ww_aem_Oj0e41ftR3pRfMQGqMQrhASupport the Pugcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thetheologypugcast?fbclid=IwAR17UHhfzjphO52C_kkZfursA_C784t0ldFix0wyB4fd-YOJpmOQ3dyqGf8
Today the Pugs discuss a provocative essay in the English publication, AirMail by Tara Isabella Burton. In this article she explores a new and very self-conscious religious disposition that is taking hold among tech elites in Silicon Valley. While there has been some buzz about a revival of interest in Christianity there, this is something very different, somewhat Gnostic, and very neopagan. Join the pugs as they reflect on it. Article Referenced: https://airmail.news/issues/2025-5-24/the-view-from-herefbclid=IwY2xjawKsh8NleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETEyVnZXc29rSGpwaEFsQjRsAR5DHSu0LY04GYS7rDcYlDWzeZXQYiZ7OxvHCNAxLWdcqmfN05x5VHG8P2U6Ww_aem_Oj0e41ftR3pRfMQGqMQrhA Support the Pugcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thetheologypugcast?fbclid=IwAR17UHhfzjphO52C_kkZfursA_C784t0ldFix0wyB4fd-YOJpmOQ3dyqGf8
Jared Leto, an actor and the frontman for the band 30 Seconds to Mars, is facing renewed allegations of grooming and sexual assault. Multiple women spoke with the outlet “Air Mail” about their experiences with Leto over the past several years. Law&Crime's Jesse Weber sat down with criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor Melba Pearson to discuss the allegations.PLEASE SUPPORT THE SHOW: Check out americanfinancing.net/onthecase or call 866-891-3262 to learn how homeowners are saving $800 a month on average. NMLS 182334, www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org HOST:Jesse Weber: https://twitter.com/jessecordweberLAW&CRIME SIDEBAR PRODUCTION:AYouTube Management - Bobby SzokeVideo Editing - Michael Deininger, Christina O'Shea & Jay CruzScript Writing & Producing - Savannah Williamson & Juliana BattagliaGuest Booking - Alyssa Fisher & Diane KayeSocial Media Management - Vanessa BeinSTAY UP-TO-DATE WITH THE LAW&CRIME NETWORK:Watch Law&Crime Network on YouTubeTV: https://bit.ly/3td2e3yWhere To Watch Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3akxLK5Sign Up For Law&Crime's Daily Newsletter: https://bit.ly/LawandCrimeNewsletterRead Fascinating Articles From Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3td2IqoLAW&CRIME NETWORK SOCIAL MEDIA:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawandcrime/Twitter: https://twitter.com/LawCrimeNetworkFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lawandcrimeTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/lawandcrimenetworkTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lawandcrimeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Today the Pugs discuss a provocative essay in the English publication, AirMail by Tara Isabella Burton. In this article she explores a new and very self-conscious religious disposition that is taking hold among tech elites in Silicon Valley. While there has been some buzz about a revival of interest in Christianity there, this is something very different, somewhat Gnostic, and very neopagan. Join the pugs as they reflect on it. Article Referenced: https://airmail.news/issues/2025-5-24/the-view-from-herefbclid=IwY2xjawKsh8NleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETEyVnZXc29rSGpwaEFsQjRsAR5DHSu0LY04GYS7rDcYlDWzeZXQYiZ7OxvHCNAxLWdcqmfN05x5VHG8P2U6Ww_aem_Oj0e41ftR3pRfMQGqMQrhA Support the Pugcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thetheologypugcast?fbclid=IwAR17UHhfzjphO52C_kkZfursA_C784t0ldFix0wyB4fd-YOJpmOQ3dyqGf8
Johanna Berkman, Writer at Large for Air Mail. Also writes for The Free Press, The Cut, Tablet Magazine, The New York Times, and New York Magazine joins to talk about her latest piece “Attacking Jews at Harvard Doesn't Just Go Unpunished. It Gets Rewarded”
Today on the Mark Reardon Show, Johanna Berkman, Writer at Large for Air Mail. Also writes for The Free Press, The Cut, Tablet Magazine, The New York Times, and New York Magazine joins to talk about her latest piece “Attacking Jews at Harvard Doesn't Just Go Unpunished. It Gets Rewarded.” Scott Jennings, 97-1 political insider and CNN Political contributor, former special assistant to President Bush and Senator McConnell joins to talk about Elon Musk and the big beautiful bill. Duane Patterson, HotAir.com and host of Duane's World Podcast talk about Big Beautiful Bill, DOGE cuts and more. Bob Onder, Congressman from Missouri's 3rd District joins to talk about the latest with the Big Beautiful Bill.
This Thursday starts with Mark talking about Jake Tapper.Johanna Berkman, Writer at Large for Air Mail. Also writes for The Free Press, The Cut, Tablet Magazine, The New York Times, and New York Magazine joins to talk about her latest piece “Attacking Jews at Harvard Doesn't Just Go Unpunished. It Gets Rewarded.” Finally, is the government shrinking.
Schreib mir gern dein Feedback!Timo Prenzer ist von der Abteilung Musik des SG Weiterstadt. Sie veranstalten alle paar Jahre das Symphonie Rock-and Jazz Konzert mit 1000 Besuchern pro Abend. Wie das ganze entstanden ist, was man bedenken muss und wie so etwas generell als Musikverein funktionieren kann, erfahrt ihr hier. Instagram:@sgw_musik@andyschreck_https://sgw-musik.de/index.php/mail_php/symphonic_rock.phpNewsletter "Air-Mail" abonnierenUm diesen Podcast weiterhin so regelmäßig machen zu können, würde ich mich über eure Unterstützung bei Patreon freuen.
Schreib mir gern dein Feedback!Markus Hartmann war letztes Jahr schon zu Gast bei mir und wir haben über seinen Werdegang als Notensetzer und das Programm Dorico gesprochen. Seit dem ist viel bei mir und auf dem Markt passiert. Wir reden über die neusten Änderungen und das Deutsche Musikfest in UlmInstagram:@steinbergmedia@andyschreck_Video zum Notensatz "Traditionelle Blasmusik":https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q812N_F_yXANewsletter "Air-Mail" abonnierenUm diesen Podcast weiterhin so regelmäßig machen zu können, würde ich mich über eure Unterstützung bei Patreon freuen.
In this conversation, Anthony Scaramucci interviews Graydon Carter, founder of Airmail and former Vanity Fair editor, about his journey in magazine publishing. They discuss the golden age of magazines, the editor's role, and the decline of print. Carter reflects on his time at Vanity Fair, the post-9/11 political landscape, media's influence on Hollywood and Wall Street, and the cultural power of iconic photography, especially by Annie Leibovitz. He highlights the value of an outsider's view in journalism and shares thoughts on power and responsibility, culminating in a reflection on media's evolution. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
[Win coaching with me! I'm giving away 4x working with me for those who filled out this survey. Open till Sunday May 4th].Life back home in The Hague was fine but I realized I was in “meh” energy for quite some time. And when I found myself crying on the plane - AGAIN - I knew it was time for a change. In my energy & actions, to be precise.In this episode I open up and share personal reflections during & after my trip to the US, that led to my Great Reset project that I have embodied since. I hope my story inspires you!Want more?For expats, sign up for my weekly Air Mail where I share personal stories, insights and practical tips.Or if you want to assess your life and make changes too, get my free tool The Wheel of Expat Life.For (aspiring) global entrepreneurs, this is my mentor I keep raving about.
Author and liver of life absolutely describes our guest this episode, Pat Backley. As Pat says, she was an English woman until the age of 59 when she decided to become a Kiwi and moved full time to New Zealand. Pat grew up in a poor household, but she will tell you that she never regrets not having as much money as many of the people around her. However it happened, Pat grew up with a various curious oriented mind and a desire to explore the world. During her life which today spans 73 years, Pat has held a number of jobs. She also has been married twice, but clearly really is not bitter over being divorced from both husbands, although the 2nd one simply wasn't ready to be as adventurous as Pat and live in New Zealand. Pat wrote her first book at the age of 70. Over the past three years she has written eight books and has a number of future books inside her. As with other authors I have met over the years, Pat's characters essentially write their stories. Pat has plans and ideas, but the characters take over and create the stories. I find Pat to be extremely articulate and personable to converse with. I think you too will enjoy her and what she has to say. So, sit back, or walk or do whatever you are doing, but get ready to hear a most enjoyable and thought-provoking conversation. About the Guest: Pat Backley is an English woman who, at the age of 59 , decided to become a Kiwi and she now lives in Auckland, New Zealand. Passionate about people and travelling the world, she has spent the last 73 years living a colourful and interesting life and her books reflect these passions. She published her first book DAISY in late 2020, just before her 70th birthday, and now says that she intends to write till she dies! She has published eight books and contributed to several anthologies, as well as writing articles and short stories for various magazines and has several more books in the pipeline. Ways to connect Pat: www.patbackley.com I am on Facebook and Instagram @patbackleyauthor. Also on X (Twitter) @Pat Backley Books. And LinkedIn @Pat Backley About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! 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Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us. Michael Hingson ** 01:20 Well, hi everyone, and I want to welcome you to another edition of unstoppable mindset. And today we are going to chat with Pat Backley. Pat is a British woman, as she will tell you, but at the age of 59 which has now been some what, 1314, years ago, 13 years ago, she decided to become a kiwi and moved to New Zealand. We'll have to find out what brought that about. I've been to New Zealand. It's a fun place. I'd love to go back. But anyway, and of late, certainly much later in her life, Pat decided to become an author. She wrote her first book at the age of 70, and that is another fascinating story, I am sure. So we will delve into all of that, and we're going to grill Pat until she's tired of us. Pat, welcome to unstoppable mindset. Pat Backley ** 02:20 Thank you so much, Michael, I can assure you, I won't be tired of being grilled by you. I'm I'm thrilled to be here. Thank you. Well, Michael Hingson ** 02:29 we're really glad that you're here. What time is it in New Zealand right now? It's 10 o'clock 02:33 in the morning. Yeah, it's about what I thought. Michael Hingson ** 02:38 So you're 21 hours ahead of us. Yeah, yes. Pat Backley ** 02:42 And I have to say, I have to say that tomorrow is looking very good. You'll be glad to know, Oh, good. Michael Hingson ** 02:49 Should be good. It Well, I'm glad to hear that it's going to look good, and it's actually going to warm up a little bit. Here. We're only getting up to about 65 Fahrenheit, so that's what about 17 Celsius or so. But tomorrow it's supposed to start getting a little bit warmer. We're approaching our winter as you approach your summer, which is kind of interesting. Pat Backley ** 03:14 Yes, very interesting. When I first moved to New Zealand, that was one of the things I found very strange to have Christmas in the sunshine, because obviously I was, I was born with Christmas in the cook. Michael Hingson ** 03:29 Yeah. Well, and you could have moved to Australia, where they use kangaroos to pull Santa slay. Pat Backley ** 03:38 I could have done. I could have done. But Australia didn't have the same appeal for me as No, I Michael Hingson ** 03:43 like New Zealand. I haven't been to Australia. I'd like to go, but I really enjoyed being in New Zealand. I've been to both the North and the South Island. I spent almost three weeks there, back in 2003 and gave something like 17 or 18 speaking opportunities in 15 days. And I only had one day that I had mostly off and that we spent. What is the the town on the South Island, the the tourist town, oh, Queenstown. Queenstown. Yeah, and so but that only lasted until about six that evening, and then I had to go off and speak again. But it was a lot of fun. Pat Backley ** 04:28 You must have been exhausted because it's quite a lot of distance. I was I'm what I'm about to say is going to sound ridiculous now, because I've just been to America, and I know about your distances I was going to say, because you have a lot of driving distance between the towns you would have had to speak at. But then, as I was about to verbalize it, I thought, Pat, that's stupid. In America, the distances are far greater Michael Hingson ** 04:51 well, and also a number of airplane flights between the North and the South Island to make it go faster as well. Pat Backley ** 04:57 Yes, absolutely, yes. So. It was fun. Well, Michael Hingson ** 05:01 why don't we start by you telling us a little bit kind of about the early Pat growing up and all that. We'll start with that. Okay, Pat Backley ** 05:08 well, I, I was born in 1951 so it was just after the war, and England was still suffering from the effects of the war. You know, there was a lot of it was a bit of a gray place, so my parents couldn't afford to buy their own home, so I lived with my parent, my paternal grandparents, for the first three and a half years of my life. And of course, I had a lovely time because I had four adults doting on me. Then we moved out to the country. We were given a council house, which is like a state house. I'm not sure what they called in in the in America, you know, where the government provides them, right? Which, at that time was very acceptable, because there wasn't much housing, because it had all been bombed out, because we lived in London. So, so I grew up in the country. I didn't realize we were poor until I was 11, and went to secondary school, and suddenly I was the because I was quite bright, I was put in a grammar stream class, so I was suddenly with all these rich kids. One girl was driven to school in a chauffeur driven rolls, Royce and I lived in the little government house opposite the school, so everyone knew I was poor. So yeah, it was, it was tough. I would say it was tough my teenage years, but I Michael Hingson ** 06:26 did, they teach you a lot about that. Oh, yeah, Pat Backley ** 06:28 I got, I got, I mean, these days they would call it bullying, bullying. I just, I just, it was just, what my luck you know that I remember one time, and I actually did write about this in my memoirs, because it's still in my head after 60 odd years, one time I was the only kid in the class that went home for school lunches, and one because mum couldn't afford to pay for school lunches, so I used to go home because we lived just opposite. And I remember one day I came back to school and it was raining, so all the kids were back in the classroom early, and the teacher wasn't there yet. And there was this one girl whose name will live in my memory forever. She's etched on my soul, Angela Barrett. And she was standing at the front of the class, pretending to be the teacher, writing on the blackboard, and then wiping it off with this black cloth. And then she said, this is all this rag is fit for. And it was actually my school raincoat, which until then I'd been very proud of, but it was second hand, it'd be my cousins. And I can remember that afternoon thinking, I don't want to be here anymore. I hate it here. Everyone hates me. And I went home and I told mom, and I cried, and she said, Look, love, just because they've got more money than you doesn't make them any better people. And at 11, I could not see that at all like that. I just thought, why don't you just get more money? Why don't you buy me a nicer and go blah, blah, blah. But now in hindsight, I just think she that was the wisest thing she could say, because the time I rebelled, it made me realize that actually it's not an equal playing field in the world. You know, you're going to have people that are on this side and down at the bottom and up at the top, and you just have to grit your teeth and fight your way through it, Michael Hingson ** 08:13 yeah, and, and the reality is, there are only so many things that you can truly control, and what you what you can control is how you dealt with that situation and situations like that. Yes, that's Pat Backley ** 08:25 right. Um, and then I think I was a, I was definitely a product of the 60s. You know, we had all the lovely pop music and the short skirts and burning out bras and all that sort of stuff. But when I was just two weeks after my 20th birthday, I got married for the first time, which was ridiculous in hindsight, but at the time, you think you know everything when you're that age, don't you? My parents begged me not to marry him, but of course, I knew best, so that marriage lasted 14 years, and he wasn't always very kind. So then I left, then I was on my own for a beer. Then I had a living boyfriend, and I was desperate to have a child, Michael, but I'm not. I'm I'm old fashioned. I only would have a child if I had a husband. And so I didn't. I got married again when I was 41 and we had a child. I had a child when I was 43 my daughter, and that was that I thought life was going to be great. And then 26 years later, he decided he didn't love me anymore, didn't want to live in New Zealand anymore, and that was that so. So I kind of found myself living in New Zealand on my own, having we emigrated here together just before my 59th birthday. But anyway, I've picked up the pieces. It's been six years now, and because of COVID and because of him leaving me, that's how my life changed, really. And your daughter, my and my beloved daughter, my only child, yes, she's 30 now, and she is the love of my life. Yes, and I'm sorry. I've just realized I probably. Probably haven't answered your question very well. You must always pull me back, because I tend to get very excited and passionate and you know, don't necessarily toe the line with question answering. So forgive me, not Michael Hingson ** 10:11 a problem. That's why this is a conversation and not a big deal. So is your daughter in New Zealand? She Pat Backley ** 10:20 is now. When her dad she she was 16 when we came to New Zealand, so she did her last bit of school here, then she went to university in Auckland, and then she decided she wanted to do her master's degree back in London. So she went back to London, and then she got a job there, and she was away for five and a half years, which nearly broke my heart, but she's home now. She's been back four years, and she's got a lovely Kiwi boyfriend, and she's here to stay, so I'm Michael Hingson ** 10:49 thrilled. What did she get? Her degree in art history. Ah, now, do you? Did you go to college? No, sadly, Pat Backley ** 10:57 I because we were poor, I just had to leave school at 16, and so now I never went to college. I would have loved to, I would have liked to have been a teacher, but, you know, it wasn't to be and and I've had a great life, regardless of that. Michael Hingson ** 11:13 So did you during all your married life and then the time in between and so on. What kind of work did you Pat Backley ** 11:20 do? Well, I started work. I started work in the bank when I was 16. Barclays Bank was a really good place to work, so I spent 10 years working there. Then I lived for two years in the Fiji Islands and just did voluntary work back to the UK. My first husband and I started a furniture business, and then when I left him. Obviously I needed a job, because I didn't claim anything in the divorce. And so I got a job with bernardo's, the children's charity, as a general fundraiser. And that was great, because I just traveled all around the south of England supporting all the fundraising groups and things which I loved. And then I moved on to after a few years, I moved on to cancer research, um, again, as a fundraiser, but this time, setting up all their charity shops in the south, and that was a wonderful thing as well, because during the course of both those jobs, I met so many interesting people. You know, now that I'm an old gray haired lady, well, not actually Gray, because I color it, but now that I'm an old gray head lady. I feel very bad that the 35 year old me went to my new job with with Barnardos and sat there looking at these hundreds of gray head old ladies. And I thought, Oh, I'm too young to deal with all these old people. What on earth am I going to talk to them about? And of course, within a couple of days, I've realized that all these gray head old people were fabulous, that most of them had had really interesting, fascinating lives, and that I could learn an awful lot from them. So now the old gray head me looks back and feels very guilty at how I was at that age. But I guess that's what happens when you're young. You just think anyone over the age of 50 is is past it, don't you really well, but Michael Hingson ** 13:03 you did learn a lot, I bet, from them, which is, oh, wow, Pat Backley ** 13:07 oh, I learned so much, and I had so much fun, so much fun. Yeah, in fact, when I got married for the second time, a whole bunch of those ladies and a few of the men came to my, like, hen party the night before I got married, we went to the local, very smart hotel and had cocktails, and I just smiled to myself, thinking, oh, and I thought you were all so boring at the beginning, and actually, you're fabulous. So, yeah. So then, then my then I, then I stopped working, had my daughter, and I desperately didn't want to go back to my well paid job with cancer research. I wanted to be home with my baby because I was 43 I'd lost two children in the year before, with miscarriages, and so I stayed at home for four months, and then my husband said, oh, we need more money. You need to get a job. So I ended up doing having other people's children at my house, looking after them so doing like child minding. And that was when I look back. I don't know how I managed, because sometimes I had five under four year olds running around the house, which was quite a challenge. But we survived. I did that, I think, for seven years altogether, and oh, and in between that time, we came and lived in New Zealand for a year because my husband was a teacher, and he got a year's teaching exchange. So we basically swapped lives with a New Zealand teacher. He and his family moved into our house in England, and we moved into their house here in New Zealand. So for a whole year, we lived like a proper Kiwi family, which was wonderful. Lucy was only two, so it was the ideal time to do it. And I just, I just fell in love with New Zealand and desperately wanted to emigrate there. And then it took me 14 years to persuade him to get back here eventually. And in hindsight, I've probably pushed it too much, because. After he left, he said, I didn't like living in New Zealand. I didn't ever really settle there. So I have to hold up my hand and say, probably I persuaded him to do something that he really didn't want to do. But anyway, it's easy to be wise in hindsight, isn't it, as always, yeah. And then so we went back after our year here, we went back to the UK and we set up a business training and assessing construction workers, because the government realized, the UK government realized that, because they'd stopped formal apprenticeships some 20 odd years earlier, that there were now hundreds of 1000s of men working on construction sites who had all the necessary skills, but no paper qualifications. And so they wanted to redress that, but they realized that these men would not be willing to go back to college for three years to learn, learn their trade that they could already do. So they started this fast track program, and we used to go onto sites. We obviously, I had to get lots of qualifications and things to do it, trainers and assessors, qualifications. But then we used to go on two sites and watch the men working ask them loads of questions. We obviously had trade specific instructor assessors, and they could get that qualification that they would have taken three years to get going to college, they could then get in in a matter of six months or so, just by being observed doing their job. So it was a really, really good system, and it was very rewarding for me personally, because I used to go onto the sites and do the initial talks and whatever. And I've always liked men. I've always enjoyed their company, so I could cope with all the banter, you know, all the right, darling, what you're going to do after work, that kind of thing. I enjoyed all that. The bit I hated was wearing a hard hat, because they're very unflattering and they squash your hair do. But the most rewarding thing for me, we did that, that business for 20 years. The most rewarding thing was when a guy who I'd met on site who didn't even want to do it because he felt inadequate, which I later discovered was because he couldn't read or write, but he'd hidden it from all his colleagues. The most satisfying thing was once he'd passed, which obviously he sailed through. I sent him his certificate in the post, and the next day he phoned me, and he said, Pat. Thank you so much for that certificate. He said, it's the only thing I've ever had in my whole life that says I'm good at anything. He said, My wife is framing it and putting it on the living room wall. And that just made me cry, because I thought, this is, this is a man who's 45 who's gone through his whole life thinking he's stupid, and suddenly, just that one action can give him something to be proud of. So that was, I loved doing that, and we made that's how we made our money. For a few years, it was incredibly successful, and then it tailed off, and that's when we immigrated to New Zealand, and since I've been here, I've just basically been having a lovely time, doing a bit of voluntary work, lots of socializing and becoming an author. So Michael Hingson ** 18:10 what, what attracted you to New Zealand? Why did you fall in love so much with New Zealand? Do you think Pat Backley ** 18:19 it's a it's a hard question to answer. Michael, it was something deep inside me after I'd been here for a year, or when I'd been here probably only for a few weeks, I got this real feeling deep inside, inside me that I needed to be here. I just think sometimes places in the world draw you in for whatever reason. Who knows? You don't know if it's because perhaps you've got some association with it through an ancestor or I don't know, but I felt very, very drawn to New Zealand, and once we went back to the UK, we were back there for 14 years. Whenever I spoke to friends from New Zealand, whenever they'd phone me, I would end up in tears for hours. I want to go back to New Zealand. So it was a need rather than a desire, almost. And it's not something I've ever regretted. Even after he even after he abandoned me, we were back in England when he announced he didn't want to be married anymore, and he never came back to New Zealand. I just had to come back alone. Even then my friends in England were saying to me, oh, Pat, just stay in England. You know, we're all here. We'll, you know, we'll all be here for you. And I said, No, no, home is just New Zealand, even though I knew I was coming back all alone because Lucy was still living in London, I had, I've got no family here, so, but there was something that pulled me back. Michael Hingson ** 19:45 I understand that I really enjoyed New Zealand a lot. And if there's when people ask me a place in the world that I regard as my favorite place to visit, New Zealand always comes out first, but I enjoy. Way wherever I go. I actually took my first trip to London in late October of this year. I was only there for a couple of days, but it was to do a speech. And, you know, it was pretty similar to being here. It just wasn't the same feeling as as being in New Zealand, which I had the opportunity to do, as I said before, for a little over three weeks. So it was really a lot of fun and and the the environment is just so different. Pat Backley ** 20:28 Yes, I think New Zealand, I think one of the, I mean, obviously it's an incredibly beautiful country, but I think one of the main differences is that we, we've got a land mass pretty similar to the UK, but we we've only got like 5 million people, and the UK has got more than 70 million. And I think that's the thing. You know, the more people you try to cram into a small space, the more the social problems are, are enlarged, don't they? You know, we have exactly the same social problems here that are anywhere else in the world, but because our population is relatively small, it's not such a such such a huge feature of life, I think, yeah. Mm, Michael Hingson ** 21:10 well, I haven't explained to everyone listening that Pat and I met through the RV Book Festival, virtual book festival, which both of us being authors, we spoke at and participated in, gosh, a little over a month ago now. Mm, Pat Backley ** 21:28 yes, time flies, doesn't it does. It does. Michael Hingson ** 21:32 And one of the things that I said, as I usually do when I get a chance to meet with people, is we'd love to have you all come on the podcast. And Pat is the second of the three people who were there. And so I'm glad that that that we got to do this. But let's talk about you being an author. So you started being an author. What, just three years ago or four years ago? Yes, yes. What? Yeah. Go ahead. Oh, 22:01 no, sorry, you carry on. Well, so Michael Hingson ** 22:03 what just caused you to decide that you're going to try to write a book? Pat Backley ** 22:09 Okay? Well, when I was a little girl, I had a massive list of things I wanted to be when I was growing up, I wanted to be a nurse, a missionary, a writer, a teacher, a ballerina. They were all my that was my list. So when I was about eight, I edited my first magazine. Is I have one limited copy of it. It was a limited, very limited edition. It only lasted one, one time. But so I guess probably I've always had that desire deep inside me, but because of circumstances, and not coming from, you know, a very privileged background, it meant that I didn't have the opportunity. But in the days when we used to write letters, I always love to write long, long letters to all my friends, my family. And when I lived in Fiji for two years, I wrote, there was no other way of communicating with my parents. They had no telephone. So for two years, I wrote them letters and when my when, when they died, and I had to clear out their house, I found this enormous pile of blue Air Mail, letters that I'd written to my parents over a two year period. They'd kept every single one. So I think I'd always loved writing, but it never occurred to me that I would ever have the chance to write a book. And then we get to COVID, and we, here in New Zealand, went into lockdown on the day of my 69th birthday. It was a beautifully sunny day, and I was all alone because Lucy was in England, and I made myself chocolate brownies, stuck a candle in it, sat in the garden and cried because my marriage was over. My daughter was gone. We had COVID. There were, you know, there were lots of things to cry about. And I then spent the next three weeks lying on my sofa watching rubbish on Netflix, eating too much chocolate, drinking too much red wine. And then I thought to myself, Pat, this is ridiculous. This could go on for a few more weeks, because at the time, we thought COVID was going to be quite short lived, didn't we, and I thought, why don't you do something practical? Why don't you write a book? So I just got out some paper and pen and started writing, and stayed up, probably mostly day and night, for two weeks, and then within two weeks, my first book, Daisy was done, and that was that really the rest is history. Since then I have so I published it self. Published it just before my 70th birthday, and in the three years since then, I've written and published eight more. Contributed to five anthologies, written a little Yes, so yeah, written articles for magazines and been interviewed by lovely people like you, and the rest is history. Are you alright? Have I sent you to sleep? Talking? Michael Hingson ** 24:58 No, I. Well, I'm just listening. I didn't know whether you were done. You know, it's, it's fascinating to to listen to the story and to hear you talk about what, what brought you to it, what made you decide what kind of books to write. I Pat Backley ** 25:18 don't think I really did decide, um, my daughter for my birth, for the previous Christmas, had sent me a very dry little textbook, which she knew I love, called, I can't think exactly what it's called, something like the history of architecture, of council houses in the UK, something very boring like that. And it was, it was basically a textbook, because I love architecture as well. It was basically a textbook with just a few pictures in so I'd kind of put it on my coffee table, but not but ignored it. You know how you do when there's books? You know, you should, you kind of don't get around to it. So at the beginning of COVID, I picked it up one day, or a couple of days before I started writing, I picked it up, and within five minutes, I was enthralled. I got out post it notes. I'd stuck those all over little bits and written quotes, and I think that was kind of an inspiration. So I expected the book to be more about, have more of a theme of architecture. And in fact, the book doesn't. There is one guy who becomes an architect in it towards the end. But I think that kind of just just pushed something in my head into gear, because I firmly believe Michael. I mean, they always say that everyone has a book inside them, and I, when I do my talks now, I'm often photographed at a very funny stage where I'm going like this, because I'm just saying how somebody's it feels as though somebody's taken off the top of my head, and 70 years worth of words are just flying out. Because I find writing incredibly easy. The first book Daisy wrote itself pretty much, you know, I just kind of had an idea and and I wrote down a few things about possible people, and then they just wrote their own story, really, which I'm, you know, I know, as an author, you will understand that. And I would say, for all my other books, I've had an idea, but they've kind of, they've kind of written themselves, themselves Michael Hingson ** 27:17 as well. Yeah. Well, you know, you talk about textbooks. I've been an advocate for some time about the concept that people should rewrite textbooks or make textbooks different than they are, and technical manuals, the same way, as you said, they're very boring and and they don't need to be in textbooks could draw people in a lot more than they than they do. For example, my master's degree is in physics, and when you're looking at a physics textbook, there are lots of mathematical equations and so on, and that's fine, but think of how much more interesting the book might be, and think of how much more you might draw the interest of people to the science by including in the book some stories about the the author. Their their, I don't want to necessarily say adventures, but their experience is why they became a physicist, why they do what they do, and bringing some humanity to the textbook, I think would make a significant difference to textbooks in general, but we don't see that, because people just want to get the facts out there. Pat Backley ** 28:32 I couldn't agree more. I absolutely, totally agree. When I was at school, I hated doing research because it was boring. You had to learn the names of all the kings of England, and King, you know, Henry, the eighth wives, and when their heads got chopped off and all that stuff. And apart from the really scandalous bits, I wasn't really interested. But now I absolutely adore research. I discovered that my first book, Daisy is is a historical fiction, and so I had to do lots of research to make sure it was accurate, because you you know, if you write something in a book and it's not right, people are going to pick holes in it. I mean, they're going to pick holes in your work anyway, so you don't want to give them extra ammunition, right? But I discovered that I absolutely loved doing research. And of course, these days it's so easy because you just click a button on your computer and you can find out what cold scuttles were used in 1871 whereas in my youth, we had to trudge to the library get out all the encyclopedias. And so because of I've discovered that love of research, all my all my novels, are now historical because it's almost it gives me an excuse to go researching and finding out stuff. So it's opened up a whole new world to me, Michael and I just realized now that that expression education is wasted on the young is so true, because now in my seven. Is I am so open to learning new things, whereas in my teens, I was bored to death and just wanted to go home and play. Michael Hingson ** 30:09 So what was Daisy about? Oh, well, Pat Backley ** 30:11 Daisy, I'll just, I'll just read you a little bit on the back to give you an idea. Um, Daisy is a gentle family saga spanning almost 100 years, from 1887 to 1974 It is set in Alabama, Harlem and London, and incorporate some of the evils of society, poverty, racism and snobbery, as well as some of the greatest that life has to offer, family, friendship and love and a couple of quotes, being born poor was a scar that never faded, and she had never experienced racial hatred first hand, so had no real idea of how it could erode a person's whole life. So basically, it's just a story of a young woman born in the slums of London and a young man born into an affluent lifestyle on an Alabama plantation in 1871 and how their lives interwove, they never got together, but, you know, or all their extended people did, so it's right, yeah, Michael Hingson ** 31:14 right. Well, the thing about about that kind of a story is, again, it draws you in. I I would would say something slightly different. Being poor is a scar that that never fades. On the other hand, being poor also gave you, or would give Daisy the life that she had, which was, was so I would suspect so very invaluable to her overall life experiences. Pat Backley ** 31:50 Yes, absolutely yes. And her life changes quite dramatically midway because of the people she meets. Yeah, it's I, it was in, it's interesting, because sometimes I reread it and I just think, Wow, this is quite a good story. And I then I feel bad for thinking that about my own writing, but I've written the second Daisy, which is obviously the follow up. And then I thought, actually I and then I wrote a little travel book and my life story and whatever. And then I thought, Oh, I really miss doing research. Perhaps I could write about my own family, my own ancestors. So I then wrote the ancestors series. I've done three in it, and wrote about my paternal grandparents, my maternal grandparents and my own parents. I've just published that book about them that was glorious, but very emotive, because obviously I knew certain bits about them. But delving back further and further into the family histories, you discover lots of things and very emotional to write, yeah, particularly one about my parents, because your parents are just your mom and dad, aren't they? You kind of don't think of them really, as people in their own right, but when you start writing their life story, you're living life through their shoes and and it, yeah, it made me very emotional. I cried every day writing my parents story, but now I'm really glad I did it, because it's kind of honored, honored their lives, and also it means they'll never die their even their photographs are on the cover. And my daughter said that she cried all the way reading it, and she said, Mom, it was wonderful, because I hardly knew them. You know, they died when she was quite young. Yeah, she's but now I understand, yeah, so because she's had, you know, she's had a reasonably nice upbringing. She hasn't had the upbringing that they had, or even I had. So, yeah, I think I try. I've become a bit I've become a bit of a pain now, because everyone I meet, I say, like last week, I did a talk at the local genealogy society, and I said to them, please write your story down or record it some way. Because once you die, your story dies with you, no one knows your life as well as you do. So, yeah, yeah. But I just love research. So now I'm thinking, oh, what else can I write about and do some research? I write about people. Michael, people are my passion. I love people and and ordinary people. I don't need to write about, you know, worthy things people, right? Michael Hingson ** 34:24 But the other part about it is that you got, as you write about your parents, I'll bet you got to know them better, too, and it helps you understand the kind of life you had and they had. And I still bet overall, you could talk about wealth and all that, but you wouldn't trade your life for anything because it made you who you are today. Abs, Pat Backley ** 34:49 you're absolutely right, and yes, you're right. Writing about their stories and all that they went through, it was Yeah. Just made me really, really realize that they were even. Special people than I knew they were. But no, I wouldn't trade anything. I mean, I had a wonderfully happy childhood, if you put aside that silly bit of bully in that, you know, I tend to know for the years. But, yeah, we I, I because I didn't know, really, that I got snippets of there being other kind of lives like, you know, I had rich friends who had lots of clothes, traveling all the time and stuff, but basically, my life was just my little nuclear family. In our little we had a little two bedroom house for six of us, and that was my life. We were very happy. There were very rarely raised voices, and that's why I didn't cope very well in my first marriage, when my husband, my first husband, suddenly showed me that he had a rather violent temper because I didn't know how to handle it, because I had never experienced that before in my whole life. So I in that way, I wasn't prepared. But yeah, I will always be grateful to my parents, because with very little, they gave us all a very happy childhood. Michael Hingson ** 36:05 Well, so you started writing at the age of 70. Do you wish that you had started writing earlier? Or did you think about that? I Pat Backley ** 36:17 think about it. I don't really, because I think I had to live through everything I've lived through get to the point now of being able to write in the way I do. And also, yeah, no, I don't really. I mean, the only thing I think is, oh, I hope I don't die before I before I get everything written, I want to write. That's my only thing. But no, I I've learned, Michael, not to regret anything in life, because if you do, the only person it hurts is yourself. Yeah, Michael Hingson ** 36:47 because you are who you are, because of your life Pat Backley ** 36:51 exactly, and you would understand that better than most. I mean, you cope so well with with being blind, which is absolutely remarkable, because most of us, if we suddenly can't see and need to wear a stronger pair of glasses, we just go down, you know, go down into a depressive state. So you're a wonderful beacon of hope. I think for an awful lot of people, of course, Michael Hingson ** 37:15 the issue, and using that as an example, the issue is that you don't know anything about being blind or blindness, and people generally don't, and they make a lot of assumptions that are not necessarily true, but it is again, the lives that they live, and the reality is there's nothing wrong with being blind. We live in a world where most people are light dependent, that is, they can see. But the reality is, of course, in the perspective I try to oftentimes nowadays, to convey to people, is light dependence is just as much a disability as being light independent or blind, because as soon as the lights go out, you lose power, and if you don't have an immediate light source. You're in a world of hurt. And we really should think of disability as a characteristic that everyone has, except it manifests itself differently for different people. But unfortunately, people aren't ready to do that. And the reasons for bringing up the concept in that way is that I think that because disability is really a characteristic everyone has, it is also a way to help level the playing field. And that's something that is so hard to get people to do, because they really think, well, you're blind, you're not as good as I Pat Backley ** 38:37 Oh, wow. Very profound. I love talking to you. Michael, this is fascinating stuff. Fascinating. I had, I had a little niece. Sadly, she died when she was 14. She had a dreadful genetic disease called battens, but she went blind for the last couple of years. It broke my heart. It broke my heart, but she seemed to just deal with it somehow. You know, it's, I guess we all get the strengths we need at the times we need them. Do you think Michael Hingson ** 39:04 I think, I think that's true, or we can if, long as we accept it. But the reality is that, of course, she lost her her eyesight, but if she developed an attitude that I have other things that are available to me, so I'm going to be fine, then she would be fine. Yes, Pat Backley ** 39:23 yeah, yeah. I mean, sadly, she lost all her faculties. She couldn't talk. She so everything went but, but it was when her eyes went and she was still able to understand, that was the hardest thing. So I remember years ago when I worked in Barclays Bank, when I was quite in my 20s, and we were, I worked in a big branch at the time, and we had a blind telephonist, because in those days, back in the 60s, I think it was kind of what they did. It was when there were all those great big telephonic boards, you know, press all the buttons. And we had a guy called Peter, and he had. His dog was called penny, and our branch was on the corner of this huge, wide road in a place called Kingston, just outside London. And to cross the road, there were like six lanes of traffic, and it was really, really dangerous. And we would come out of work in the afternoon, and we'd all be standing there hesitant to cross the road, and Peter would suddenly just march across the road with Penny, and we'd all be standing there in awe. And one day I crossed with I've got brave, and I crossed over with him, and we got to the other side, and I said, Peter, how can you do that? He said, Oh, well. He said, It's always useful being blind, because traffic feels sorry for you, so they all kind of slow down anyway. He said, But, but. He said, But Penny leads me. He said, she just, she just, she just knows it's fine, so she just the dog just, just takes me over. I was fascinated, but he had just recently married about two years earlier he'd been, he'd been fully sighted till he was 11, and then he and some friends were messing about on the railway lines, and he fell over and bashed his head, and he went blind. So he had been sighted and but now he he was married, he had a little baby, and I said, Oh, Peter, can you actually see your baby, or do you just kind of have to feel the outline? He said, Oh no. He said, I got a tiny, tiny bit of vision. He said, so I can see the shape of the baby. And I just always remember thinking you're so brave. That was, that was what I thought. I just felt he was so brave. Well, just remember Michael Hingson ** 41:27 the dictionary, you know? Well, just remember the dictionary defines to see is to perceive. It doesn't necessarily need to be with the eyes and and there's so many other senses that give us this a lot of information as well. For me, I don't want my dog to decide when we cross the street in general, unless the dog refuses to go because there's a hybrid car or something coming that I don't hear. But it's my job to know when to go and and I know how to do that, and so I can listen for the traffic flow and and, and go accordingly. And at the same time, if I then tell the dog to go forward and the dog won't go my immediate assumption is there's a reason for that, and and, and usually there is because the dog and I have developed that kind of a relationship where the dog knows it's my job to tell the dog where to go, and it's the dog's job to make sure that we get there safely. It's a very close knit team. It's as close knit of a team as you can imagine, and it's what it's really all about. So the dog and I each do our jobs, and when we do them correctly together, what a wonderful world. It becomes Pat Backley ** 42:47 fabulous. And it obviously works because you're still standing, you're still here, Michael Hingson ** 42:54 and my and my dog is over here, breathing very deeply, asleep. Oh, so you you stick with historical fiction. Have you ever thought of writing other kinds of books, like adventures or novels or that are not historic in nature, fantasy or any of those? I Pat Backley ** 43:17 don't think I've got the right brain set to do fantasy or horror or crime. I, I I'm writing historical because I've discovered a great love for it, but I've also, I also have a great love for travel. So I wrote a little travel book, and I've just done a big trip, so I'm going to write another travel book, because that's another great love I wrote. I wrote my memoirs, which was very satisfying, you know, to write my own story down so it's there forever, if you like. And I also wrote a little book called The abandoned wives handbook, which I didn't want to write. I just kept putting it off. And then one day, I woke up at three in the morning and this voice saying to me, Pat, you have to write this book to help other people. So I just wrote this. I cried all the time. Writing it, as you've probably deduced, I'm a great crier. I think crying is is the best way of getting stress out of your system, out of my system. So I wrote this book. It's just a tiny little book that you can pop into a handbag called the abandoned wives handbook. And I've just made it like a little dictionary. I call it a dictionary of distress, and it's just to I'll just just briefly read you the backseat and understand the pain of abandonment is huge. The partner you loved and cherished for so many years has decided you are no longer required past your sell by date of no use to them anymore, so tossed out like a piece of garbage, abandoned with barely a backward glance, in an attempt to keep this a gentle, light hearted read, each chapter is divided into letters of the alphabet, rather like a dictionary of distress, something you can dip into at any time. I am not an expert, merely someone who has survived one of life's great traumas and has come through. Is a stronger, more resilient person, so I didn't want to write it. I hated doing it. I've, I published it, and it's, ironically, one of my best selling books people buy Michael Hingson ** 45:13 all the time. Do you publish your own books, or do you have a publisher? I Pat Backley ** 45:17 have, I have done till this point, Michael, but simply because I'm feeling I'm too old to hang around waiting to get noticed. But I have just written, I have just finished another book, which I I just feel might be slightly more commercial, so I may try seeing if I can get an agent for that. But I will probably only try one or two, and then if they say no, I'll just give up and self publish. The only thing against self publishing for me now is that it because I want to do it properly. You know, I pay an editor, I pay a cover designer, I pay a formatter. It becomes quite expensive to pay people. So that's my that's my only downside. But I do like to be totally in control. You know, I can choose my own covers. I can choose when it's published. I can choose what the content is. And if you go with a traditional publisher, you often lose the ability to have the same control Michael Hingson ** 46:11 well, or you you negotiate, but, but, yeah, I understand what you're saying. I also have to say I understand fully this whole concept of abandonment. When my seventh guide dog Africa retired, and she retired because she wasn't seeing well and she was slowing down, so I knew it was time to get a new guide dog. So it was February 9 of 2018, and we lived here, and her puppy raiser, the people who raised her, they call them, I think, in New Zealand, puppy walkers, but they live about 140 miles south, or about 120 miles in a town called Carlsbad. And they came and I, and I said that they could have Africa, and the only reason I gave her up was because we already had my wife's service dog and a cat, and I was going to get another dog, and Karen wasn't really going to be able to handle taking care of two dogs and a cat when I traveled to speak, so we agreed that Africa could go live with the bill And Peggy, and they came and picked her up, and she walked out the door without a backward glance. I was abandoned. 47:26 Oh, that's awful, Michael Hingson ** 47:28 yeah. Well, we actually, we went. We went down and visited her several times. She was just excited. No, she's, she was a great dog. And, yes, yeah, you know. And they got to have her for two years before she passed. But she was, she was a good dog and and she had a good life. And I can't complain a bit, but it's fun to tease about how obviously we have abandoning issues here. Yes, yeah. Pat Backley ** 47:53 And I think that's the secret in life, Michael, to always find something to be happy about and smile about, because life can be very tough, can't it? I mean, you know, it's, yeah, life is tough. And so I think if we don't find, try and seek a little joy, we might as well all give up, you know, yeah, yeah. And Michael Hingson ** 48:14 there's no need to do that. I mean, God put us on this earth to live an adventure. And life is an adventure, 48:21 absolutely, Michael Hingson ** 48:22 no matter what we do. Yes, 48:25 absolutely. Well, how do you Michael Hingson ** 48:26 develop your characters? I mean, you're writing historical fiction, so you're you're using history and and periods of time as the the setting for your books, but you're creating your own characters primarily, I gather, Pat Backley ** 48:39 yes, yes. To be honest, in my head, when I start writing, I almost have an exact picture of my characters. I know exactly what they look like. I mean, if I was to, if I was to suddenly get a film offer, I could easily say how these people should look, because I they're real for for example, a few months after I oh no, maybe a year or so after I published Daisy, I was talking to my daughter one day, and I just said, Oh, do you remember when Theo did whatever? And she looked me straight in the eye, and she said, Mum, I don't know your characters as well as you do. And I just, we both burst out laughing, because to me, they're real people. You know, I I can picture them. I know exactly what they look like. And I think even when I start a new book in my head, I already know what my characters look like. They may not as the plot goes on, behave in the way I want them to, but I know how I know who they are. I know how they how they look. Yeah, they're going Michael Hingson ** 49:43 to write the book and they're going to tell you what you need to do. Yeah, totally. But you use, but you use, I assume, real places in your books. I always Pat Backley ** 49:51 use real places, always Yeah, and always places I know, because I think you can write more authentically then, like in days. I wrote about Harlem and Alabama and New York and London, or not New York in that one, but London and because I know all those places, I've been there and you know, they're, they're familiar to me, yeah, Michael Hingson ** 50:13 yeah. So you, you, you let them do what they do, and out comes the book. Pat Backley ** 50:21 Absolutely, that's right, yes, yeah, have you Michael Hingson ** 50:25 written any yet in New Zealand? Pat Backley ** 50:29 You mean, based in New Zealand? The funny thing is, Michael, being an immigrant is and I have spoken to lots of other immigrants about this. In fact, I co authored a book in lockdown called the warrior women project, a sisterhood of immigrant women, which is based in the States. And all the other women are are living in the States, except me, and I caught up with them when I came over to the states. Couple of months ago, we had a reunion, met for the first time, which was wonderful, but we all said, once you are an immigrant, you never truly belong anywhere. You know, when I go, I always feel a little bit of an outsider here. I've been here 14 years now, and that's nobody's that's nothing anybody does. That's just my feeling deep inside. I go back to England, and I feel like an outsider. I used to live in Fiji when I was in my 20s, and then I had a house there. Until my divorce, I go back there, and I've got a lot of extended friend family there, I go back there, and I always feel like an a bit of an outsider. So I think that's the price you pay for wanting a life less ordinary. You know, you somehow become like a little bit of a floating person. And I don't to answer your question, I don't really feel qualified to write about New Zealand. Obviously, I talk about it in my travel book and I talk about different places, but to base the whole story here, I don't feel qualified. There are enough fabulous New Zealand authors who are doing that already, who've been born here, who understand the country, who, you know, who, yeah, they're Michael Hingson ** 52:07 just at the same time you wrote Daisy, which took place in part in Alabama. How much time did you spend, you know? So it may be, it may be something in the future where a character will pop out and say, I want to be in New Zealand, but that's something to look at. Pat Backley ** 52:23 Yes, I love it when somebody like you calls me out on my own, my own things, because you're absolutely right. I That's That was a silly argument to say. I don't know it enough. So thank you for that. You've made me rethink. That's good. Michael Hingson ** 52:37 Well, so I gather that when you're writing, you think you have the plot planned out, or you you try to have the plot planned out, but it doesn't necessarily go the way you plan it. Does it? Pat Backley ** 52:49 No, not at all. I mean, I know roughly what I want to say. I think what I'm definitely, definitely know what I want to do is get certain little messages across. And that doesn't matter what my characters do, because I can weave that in, like in Daisy. I wanted to get across that slavery was dreadful, and racism is dreadful, and the way black people were treated when they went to England in the 1950s was dreadful. So I managed to we, and that's and that's snobbishness and stuff is dreadful. So I managed to always weave those kind of themes into my books. And apparently, it has been said by reviewers that I do it so well that people it just makes people think about what that how they think how Yeah, so, so those main themes, if you like, I managed to weave into my stories, regardless of how badly my characters behave. Michael Hingson ** 53:45 So when you're writing, are you pretty disciplined? Do you have certain times that you write, or do you just sit down and write till you're ready to stop for the day? Or what I Pat Backley ** 53:56 am very non disciplined, undisciplined, whatever the term is supposed to be. I have great intentions. I think, right, I'm going to spend tomorrow writing. I'll be at my desk by eight o'clock, and I'll sit little five. And then at nine o'clock, I get up to go make a cup of coffee. And at 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock, I'm out weeding the garden, and then I might come back in and do a little bit, and then I go off and do something else. So I am dreadfully undisciplined, but I work really well to deadlines. Just before I went away on my big trip in September, I was part way through a book, probably a third way through writing a new book, and I woke up one day and I thought, right, I'm going to get that book finished before I go. I had three weeks left. In that three weeks, I had masses of appointments. I had to sort out my wardrobe, which, as a woman, is a huge problem, one that you've probably never had, but you know, you have to decide what goes with what and how many dresses you should take, and it's a huge issue for a lot of women. So I had a lot of jobs to do in that three. Weeks instead of which, I decided to set myself as self imposed time to get the book finished. Crazy. Just, I mean, why? Why? Why crazy? Michael Hingson ** 55:09 And did you the day Pat Backley ** 55:11 before? There you are. I was so proud of myself because I just that was it. I decided I and what I did to make myself accountable, I actually put a post on Facebook and Instagram saying, why, and all these little yellow post it notes, and I'd written on their pack suitcase, Do this, do this, do this. And so I just said to everyone that I'd given myself this self pointed deadline so I had made myself publicly accountable. If I hadn't done that, I probably wouldn't have finished it, but I find, for me, that's the best way of disciplining myself is to have a deadline with everything in life, really, yeah. But the Michael Hingson ** 55:49 other part about it is, even when you're as you would put it, being undisciplined, your brain is still working on the book, and the characters are are mulling things over, so it does pop out. Oh, totally, Pat Backley ** 56:00 totally. And I end up with lots of little scrappy notes all over the house, you know, where I've just grabbed a piece of paper and written down something. And then, of course, I have to gather them all together. And when I was in the States recently, I spent two months, and I've got scrap I was doing a lot of research, and I've got scrappy notes everywhere. So I've now got to try and pull those all together while my brain still remembers what they were meant to be, you know, like lady in red dress in New Orleans. Well, what does that really mean? So, right? I'm, I'm my own worst enemy in many ways, but, Michael Hingson ** 56:37 but she thought, and so you went through it exactly, exactly, yeah, that's okay. Where did you travel in September? Pat Backley ** 56:45 I went to Atlanta first to meet up with these warrior women, which was truly fabulous. Then I went to New Orleans, and my friend who lives in Alabama, picked me up, and we went to New Orleans, and then we drove back to Alabama. She lives in Huntsville. So I was there for a week and was doing lots of research, because Daisy is partly based right and then we then she drove me back to Nashville, and I flew to New York, where I was meeting some friends from New Zealand who lived there six months of the year. So I spent six days there and went to Harlem for more research and stuff like that, and then flew to Canada, to Toronto, where two friends, a lady I'd met when we had our daughters together, and her daughter, they now live in France. They flew from France, met me in Toronto, we hired the biggest SUV I've ever seen in my life, and we drove across Canada for three weeks, which was such fun, such fun. And then I came home. So I've got millions of scrappy notes that I need to pull together to write a travel book and to use as inspiration for my novels. Michael Hingson ** 58:01 So you so you're going to write another travel book? I 58:05 am going to write another travel book. Yeah, yeah. Michael Hingson ** 58:09 And the the abandoned wives handbook, that's kind of a self help book. That's a self help book, yes, yeah. Just you think you'll write another one of Pat Backley ** 58:17 those? No, no, I'm done with that one's enough of those, huh? Yeah, that's right. I'm not an expert, Michael and the I just, I just, but the funny thing is, when I do talks, I always talk about all my books. And a few weeks ago, I was talking at this very smart meeting of ex business people, both ladies and gentlemen, and they were all over 60. Um, so quite a conservative audience. And at the end, or towards the end, I just mentioned this abandoned Wise Book, I tend to skim over it. I don't really, I don't really talk about it too much unless the audience is particularly relevant. But I just said to them, oh, and this is my little book. And someone said, Oh, could you read us an excerpt from it? So I said, Okay, I'll just open the book at random. And I opened the book and the title, what you won't be able to see here, the title of that chapter was K for kill. And I thought, no, no, I don't want to read about kill front of this audience. So I just made a joke of it and and I'll just read it to you, because it will make you laugh, as I have said previously under Section indecisive. You may, in your darkest moments, think about hurting him. This is not really a great idea, as you would undoubtedly be caught and end up in prison. Yeah, you so, you know, I and then I went on a bit more, but, you know, it's some yeah and no, I'm done with that book. I've, I've done my bit for humanity with that. It seems to be helping a lot of people. So that's that's enough. Michael Hingson ** 59:45 Yeah, I would never make a good criminal, because I know I'd be caught and and I don't know how to keep from getting caught, and frankly, don't care about trying to get worry about getting caught or not getting caught. It's easier just not to be a criminal. So it works out fine. So. Yes, 1:00:00 exactly. Yeah, me too. Me too. So much Michael Hingson ** 1:00:02 easier. So much easier. Absolutely, absolutely yes. Well, if people want to reach out to you and maybe learn a little bit more about you or meet you, how do they do that? Okay, Pat Backley ** 1:00:12 well, my website is just patch back league com, so it's very easy. Um, I'm Can you spell that please? Yes, yes, of course, P, A, T, B, A, C, K, L, E, y.com.com, yeah, and I'm on all the channels, as you know, Facebook and Instagram and x and LinkedIn and stuff as Pat Backley author or pat Backley books. And my books are all available from Amazon, all the online retailers, Barnes and Noble stuff like that, as ebooks or paperbacks, or if someone desperately wanted a signed copy, I'm very happy to send them a signed copy, and you can get them from you can request them from libraries. Michael Hingson ** 1:00:59 Have you? Have you thought about making any of them an audio format? Pat Backley ** 1:01:05 I have someone's. A few people have suggested that this year, when I've been doing talks, they've come up to me afterwards, and yes, I think I'm going to, as long as it's not too costly, because at the moment, my budget is extremely limited, but I'm going to do them myself, because everyone feels that my books will be come come across better in my own voice so well, Michael Hingson ** 1:01:25 and you read well. So I think that makes a lot of sense to consider. Pat Backley ** 1:01:29 Thank you, Michael, that's very kind of you. Well, Pat, Michael Hingson ** 1:01:33 this has been fun, and I've enjoyed it. I've learned a lot of things as well, and I'm and I'm glad that we've had this chance. We need to do it again. When are you going to start a podcast? Pat Backley ** 1:01:47 Well, funny, you should say that I've decided I'm going to I'm going to just dip my toes in very gently. I'm going to start it in the new year, and I'm going to call it and this makes everyone who knows me laugh. I'm going to call it just 10 minutes with Pat Backley. And everyone has said, Oh, don't be ridiculous. Yeah, Michael Hingson ** 1:02:05 I agree, 10 Pat Backley ** 1:02:06 minutes, but I thought it's a way of just gently edging in. And then if people enjoy listening to me, they might want to listen for longer after a while. But I thought initially, just 10 minutes, little snippets, if they like what they hear, they might come back. Michael Hingson ** 1:02:21 They'll come back. Oh, I don't think there would be a problem. Well, if you, if you ever need a guest to come and spend at least 10 minutes, just let me know. I Pat Backley ** 1:02:30 certainly shall. I have absolutely loved talking to you. Michael, thank you so much for inviting me as well. This is a very joyful morning. I've really loved it. Thank you. Well, Michael Hingson ** 1:02:39 this has been fun, and I want to thank all of you for listening. I hope you've enjoyed it and reach out to Pat. I'm sure she would love to communicate with you, and maybe in some way, you'll end up in a book, which is always a nice, good thing to think about as well. I'd love to hear what you think about our podcast today. So please feel free to email me. Michael, h, i, m, I, C H, A, E, L, H i at accessibe, A, C, C, E, S, S, I b, e.com, or go to our podcast page, which is at w, w, w, dot Michael hingson.com/podcast, and Michael hingson is spelled M, I, C, H, A, E, L, H, I N, G, S O n.com/podcast, wherever You're listening. We would really appreciate it if you would give us a five star rating. And we we value that. We value your thoughts and input. Pat for you and all of you listening. If you know an
Schreib mir gern dein Feedback!Nina Hirmke hat zusammen mit ihrer Cousine ein neues Format geboren: "Brass meets Pop - Das Battle der Jugendkapellen." Ein Format, dass sich eher an Erfolgskonzepten wir The Voice of Germany orientiert und den Spaß und das Publikum mit ins Geschehen bringt. Hört sich spannend an? Ist es auch. Hört rein. Instagram:@brass_meets_pop@andyschreck_Bewerbung unter nina_hirmke@yahoo.deNewsletter "Air-Mail" abonnierenUm diesen Podcast weiterhin so regelmäßig machen zu können, würde ich mich über eure Unterstützung bei Patreon freuen.
GOOD GOING. Graydon Carter launched his enjoyable digital weekly newsletter Air Mail in 2019. He was the editor of Vanity Fair for twenty-five years, and under him Vanity Fair won numerous awards. Named to the American Society of Magazine Editors Hall of Fame, he is also an author and editor of books, a producer of plays and documentaries, and a restaurateur. In the newly published memoir When the Going Was Good Graydon recounts how he made his mark as one of society's most talented editors and shapers of culture. “I'm a very kind person, and I treat everybody the same.” “Every editor out there was working at the top of their game, and they were really good, so the competition was fierce.” “Always carry a handkerchief!”
People generally set out to write their memoirs in times of relative boredom or malaise—in other words, when they’ve retired. Not so for Graydon Carter. He began working on his new memoir, When the Going Was Good, just after leaving his post at the helm of Vanity Fair, where he was editor for 25 years, and as he was starting AIR MAIL. But then, whether Carter was lampooning the excesses of 1980s New Yorkers in Spy, hosting Oscar parties for the ages at Vanity Fair, or poring over the seating charts for his Greenwich Village restaurant The Waverly Inn, he never was one to loaf. On this episode of Table for Two, he joins host Bruce Bozzi to discuss his experience working as a railroad lineman in Canada, the moment he realized the golden age of print was nearing its end, and how he was able to effectively separate his work and family life.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Graydon Carter, the editor whose two decades at the helm of Vanity Fair transformed the publication, sure knows how to curate. He made the magazine into the cultural touchstone it is today (think: the much-photographed Vanity Fair Oscars Party, the viral celebrity lie-detector tests), though not without trial, error, and lots of nerves. He and I talk about his long tenure, the pitfalls of a project not having a “point,” and what he gets out of being at the head of a completely new enterprise, the digital magazine Air Mail. It’s a creative conversation I didn’t know I needed, and one I’m very glad I had. Graydon’s memoir, When the Going Was Good, is available now wherever books are sold. Follow me on Instagram at @davidduchovny. Stay up to date with Lemonada on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our shows and get bonus content. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The founder and Co-Editor of AIR MAIl, Graydon Carter, has written his long-awaited memoir, entitled When the Going Was Good: An Editor's Adventures During the Last Golden Age of Magazines, and we're excited to have him join us to talk about his book, the enduring magic of New York, and more. Then, for years Danny Elfman was one of the most sought-after composers in Hollywood, writing scores for movies such as Beetlejuice, Batman, and The Nightmare Before Christmas. But now his reputation is in tatters as he faces accusations of sexual harassment. Jacob Bernstein joins us to discuss the story that has riveted—and perplexed—Hollywood.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Graydon Carter is the co-founder of Spy Magazine and Air Mail, and for 25 years, he was the editor of Vanity Fair. His memoir, When The Going Was Good, chronicles a time when the going was extremely good for glossy magazines and their star editors. During the golden age of magazines, Vanity Fair combined celebrity profiles with deeply reported journalism to great acclaim, and Carter, arguably, became more famous than many of his extremely talented writers. He and Kara discuss everything from office politics at Vanity Fair to Canadian politics, including President Trump's (possible) descent into madness, the artistry involved in making a restaurant cool (as opposed to hot), and why anxiety is an essential ingredient for editors. Questions? Comments? Email us at on@voxmedia.com or find us on Instagram, TikTok, and Bluesky @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
On this week's episode of You Are What You Read, world-renowned journalist Graydon Carter joins us for a conversation about his memoir, When the Going Was Good, which hits shelves today. Graydon is the founder of Air Mail. Before this, he was a staff writer for both Time and Life. He cocreated Spy, edited The New York Observer, and for twenty-five years was the award-winning editor of Vanity Fair. He is also the Emmy and Peabody Award-winning producer of more than a dozen documentaries and one hit Broadway play. Subscribe to AirMail: https://airmail.news/ Enter to win one of 30 advanced copies of The View from Lake Como now on Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/giveaway/show/404916-the-view-from-lake-como-a-novel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Våren har kommit, fontänen är i gång och marmortassan avtäckt. Vad ska vi göra med alla högar av smutsiga underkläder som lydiga svenskar lämnar in? Vi ser fram emot att läsa om "Avvikare i Sverige" och har redan haft stor behållning av att läsa om giljotinen, när Thomas Steinfeld berättar om den i Svenskan. Varför beskrivs det som "kortvariga effekter" när polisen i två veckor kniper åt buset i Södertälje? Det funkade ju. Kontroverserna kring den nya filmen om Snövit visar bara att vi kan resa runt hela jorden, men även om vi förmår ta till oss en annan plats, förmår vi inte ta till oss en annan tid. Snart är alla sagor omöjliga, inte minst Pelle Snusk, som trots allt skrevs av en psykolog. Susanna minns hur hon bodde i samma trappuppgång som Tatiana Angelini Jolin, gift med Einar Jolin, som gjorde Snövits röst i första Disneyfilmen. Hela Landerholmhistorien är ytterligare ett exempel på när hanteringen av något rätt trivialt blir den verkliga skandalen. Lär de sig aldrig något? Nej tydligen inte: Hanna Hellquist blev förvånad över att folk tyckte det var konstigt att hon tiggde pengar till sin tax, trots att hennes bolag drar in över två miljoner om året. Kända skribenter har blivit just kändisar, som spelar på känslor och gör det privata offentligt. Det har blivit normalt att bete sig som ett barn fast man är vuxen. Kul med Johan Rabaeus premiär som Gertrude Stein på Dramaten. Camilla Thulins kostym och Ernst Billgrens scenografi får särskilda omnämnanden. Susanna konstaterar, efter en marknadsundersökning på COW parfymeri, att man inte talar om att man lyfter sig, men att botox är helt OK. Vad är nästa steg i normförskjutningen? Och sedan vår partner i inre exil: Graydon Carter och hans Air Mail. Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/hakeliuspopova. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Elon Musk is all over Washington, D.C., these days. But did you know that before he became the emperor of DOGE, he was a needy recipient of government spending? Oz Woloshyn reveals all the details. Then Lesley M. M. Blume tells the riveting story of a woman who discovered her grandfather's secret history: he survived a Nazi death camp and was the subject of a powerful profile written by one of the great journalists of World War II. And finally, here at Air Mail, we have a new podcast. It's called Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli, and it is all about The Godfather, and co-hosts Mark Seal and Nathan King stop by to tell us about it.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Howard Blum is the author of New York Times bestsellers including Dark Invasion, the Edgar Award–winner American Lightning, as well as Wanted!, The Gold Exodus, Gangland, The Floor of Heaven and Night of the Assassins. Blum is a contributing editor at Airmail, his series of articles on The Idaho Murders were nominated for a Pulitzer Prize. While at the New York Times, he was twice nominated for a Pulitzer Prize for investigative reporting. Read Howard Blum at Air Mail
Louis speaks to actor, podcast host and figure of some controversy, Armie Hammer. Dialing in from his new apartment in downtown LA, Armie and Louis discuss the allegations against him, being shunned by famous friends and his unconventional family history. Warnings: Strong language and graphic sexual content, as well as discussions of sensitive themes, including sexual abuse. For further information and support, visit https://resources.byspotify.com/. Links/Attachments: ‘Armie Hammer Breaks His Silence' – Air Mail https://airmail.news/issues/2023-2-4/armie-hammer-breaks-his-silence Podcast: ‘The Armie HammerTime Podcast' (2024 – present) https://open.spotify.com/show/05ozD8G0kGIAwJj2PRCjl0 TV Show: ‘House of Hammer' (2022) – Discovery + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIQ80m7831I Instagram Account: @armiehammervictims https://www.instagram.com/armiehammervictims?igsh=MTVpbWw2OGMweGFleg== TV Show: ‘The Offer' (2022) – Paramount+ https://www.paramountplus.com/gb/shows/the-offer/ Shotgun Wedding (2022) – Amazon Prime https://www.amazon.co.uk/Shotgun-Wedding-Jennifer-Lopez/dp/B0B76PXDYJ ‘Victim of cannibal agreed to be eaten' – The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/dec/04/germany.lukeharding Frontier Crucible (upcoming film) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt34370951/ ‘Armie Hammer Returns to Acting With ‘Frontier Crucible' Western' – The Hollywood Reporter https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/armie-hammer-acting-return-western-frontier-crucible-1236048900/ Credits: Producer: Millie Chu Assistant Producer: Emilia Gill Production Manager: Francesca Bassett Music: Miguel D'Oliveira Audio Mixer: Tom Guest Video Mixer: Scott Edwards Shownotes compiled by Immie Webb Executive Producer: Arron Fellows A Mindhouse Production for Spotify www.mindhouse.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
*Announcement for RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA!* ***Corey just got word that he's picked up a date at GOODNIGHTS COMEDY CLUB in RALEIGH January 16-18.... thats very soon! You can get tickets at GoodnightsComedy.com *** Sup, Airheads? After addressing the fires in California for a brief moment up top, This week, Lord Trae and Professor CHO start with a discussion that has intrigued southerners of all ages for quite some time: What REALLY counts as The South? And are some territories that claim residence there just a bit too fancy to fit in? After that the boys talk about the lost art of written correspondence, and Corey posits that fancy/rich people do a better job at maintaining it. Also from this discussion: Holiday cards and wedding invitations - can you really expect us stupid men to be on top of this? And finally, Professor CHO learns us about some of the differences in Shakespeare's Henry V and the actual King, Henry himself, including a weird omission concerning an injury King Henry V received in battle at the ripe age of 16!Also had some terrific Air Mail this week, so thanks to everyone who submitted theirs at PuttinOnAirs@gmail.comLove y'all... be safe! Go to TraeCrowder.com to see Trae on the road! Go to BlueChew.com and use promo code POA to try Blue Chew for free! Mando's Starter Pack is perfect for new customers. It comes with a Solid Stick Deodorant, Cream Tube Deodorant, two free products of your choice (like Mini Body Wash and Deodorant Wipes), and free shipping. As a special offer for listeners, new customers get $5 off a Starter Pack with our exclusive code. That equates to over 40% off your Starter Pack Use code POA at ShopMando.com Visit BetterHelp.com/POA today to get 10% off your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
*Announcement for RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA!* ***Corey just got word that he's picked up a date at GOODNIGHTS COMEDY CLUB in RALEIGH January 16-18.... thats very soon! You can get tickets at GoodnightsComedy.com *** Sup, Airheads? After addressing the fires in California for a brief moment up top, This week, Lord Trae and Professor CHO start with a discussion that has intrigued southerners of all ages for quite some time: What REALLY counts as The South? And are some territories that claim residence there just a bit too fancy to fit in? After that the boys talk about the lost art of written correspondence, and Corey posits that fancy/rich people do a better job at maintaining it. Also from this discussion: Holiday cards and wedding invitations - can you really expect us stupid men to be on top of this? And finally, Professor CHO learns us about some of the differences in Shakespeare's Henry V and the actual King, Henry himself, including a weird omission concerning an injury King Henry V received in battle at the ripe age of 16!Also had some terrific Air Mail this week, so thanks to everyone who submitted theirs at PuttinOnAirs@gmail.comLove y'all... be safe! Go to TraeCrowder.com to see Trae on the road! Go to BlueChew.com and use promo code POA to try Blue Chew for free! Mando's Starter Pack is perfect for new customers. It comes with a Solid Stick Deodorant, Cream Tube Deodorant, two free products of your choice (like Mini Body Wash and Deodorant Wipes), and free shipping. As a special offer for listeners, new customers get $5 off a Starter Pack with our exclusive code. That equates to over 40% off your Starter Pack Use code POA at ShopMando.com Visit BetterHelp.com/POA today to get 10% off your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Episode: 1309 The DH-4: a forgotten and terribly influential WW-I warplane. Today, America tries to get off the ground in WW-I.
Dan Rubinstein is a decorated journalist and editor with over 20 years in the world of design, having contributed to The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Air Mail, Architectural Digest, and L'Officiel. Dan currently hosts ‘The Grand Tourist' podcast, a journey through the worlds of fashion, interior design, art, food, and travel with interviews from some of its leading tastemakers like Daphne Guinness and THE PATTI LUPONE! This time around, Dan is in the interview chair. He joins Feeling Seen to talk about the 1986 coming-of-age drama Stand by Me, discussing manhood and HBO in the 80s. Plus, Dan and Jordan workshop a queer sequel to the film. Then Jordan dons a Santa suit to give you some holiday reading recommendations from former Feeling Seen guests:Manuel Betancourt's Hello Stranger: Musings on Modern IntimaciesAnna Bogutskaya's Feeding the Monster: Why horror has a hold on usKyle Turner's The Queer Film Guide: 100 Great Movies That Tell Lgbtqia+ Storiesand Amy Nicholson's work at the LA Times. Feeling Seen is on Bluesky! Give us a follow there.With Jordan Crucchiola and Dan Rubinstein.
This week, Jeanne Malle reveals the winners and losers of Air Mail's 2024 Over-Under List, wherein we present the year's most overhyped (and underhyped) people and things. Then, on the subject of well-deserved hype, Alex Belth reports on a magazine from the 1970s called New Times. It's long forgotten, unfortunately, but Alex tells us how this short-lived publication's impact endures in today's media landscape. And finally, lots of people claim they can reform education in America, most recently Donald Trump. William D. Cohan joins us from New York with the cautionary tale of Chris Whittle, the charter-school entrepreneur who went from being one of the most acclaimed operators in the education sphere to losing everything. Can he make a comeback?See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this episode, Dennis and Denise taste various wine cocktails. Join them to see if one is right for you. Each recipe will be listed below.Tonight we attempt to have a wide range of flavors and a cocktail that you will want to try.All of our cocktails will include wine and have a festive flare. Tonight, we will try six different cocktails including: Cranberry wine and Prosecco. Serve ice cold in a flute. Pour about 1 oz cranberry wine and top with Prosecco.Kir Royale. Serve in a flute. Add .5 oz Crème de Cassis and then fill the glass with Prosecco. Air Mail. Serve in a Collins glass. Add 2 oz Golden rum, 1/2 oz lime juice, 1/2 oz orange juice, 1/2 teaspoon honey, and sparkling wine. Mix all ingredients except sparkling wine in iced shaker. Shake and then pour into glass. Fill with sparkling wine. St.Germain Royale. Served in a flute. Add ¾ oz St-Germain and fill with Sparkling wine. Give a little stir and garnish with a blackberry. New York Whiskey Sour. Serve in a rocks glass. 3 oz bourbon Whiskey, ½ oz Simple syrup, ½ oz lemon juice and 1 oz dry red wine. Add all ingredients except red wine to an iced shaker and shake for 30 seconds. Pour over ice. Then float the red wine on top using the back of a spoon. The Caribou. Served in a rocks glass. 1 oz Rye Whiskey, a splash of maple syrup, 3 oz port or dry red wine, garnish with a cherry or orange twist. Add all ingredients in a mixing glass filled with ice, stir and then strain into a rocks glass over ice.Next week we will taste three sparkling wines including:Kirkland Prosecco. We purchased it at Costco for $7.99. Sterling Sparkling Wine from California. I purchased at Costco for $14.99. Cooper's Hawk Lux Sparkling Wine. Cremant De Bordeaux purchased from Cooper's Hawk for $34.99.
After a riveting edition of This Week In Fancy, Professor Cho quizzes Lord Trae in a game of The Price Is Right: Sears Roebuck 1908 Catalog Edition! (Yall ain't gonna believe some of these ridiculous price disparities) Then Lord Trae reads a man's claim that he is indeed the most English man alive! Oh and yall, not that it's not always good, but Airmail is exceptional this week! Go to TraeCrowder.com to see us at Zanies in Nashville Dec 12-14! Please subscribe to WeLoveCorey.com for bonus “content” and to support the Cho! Check out our sponsors! EVERYPLATE: With affordable dinners for just $5.99 per serving, PLUS 50% off your first box, EveryPlate helps you save money for an stress-free holiday! Get this amazing deal by going to EveryPlate.com/PODCAST and entering code poa599. LUMEN: if you want to stay on track with your health this holiday season, go to lumen.me/POA to get 15% off your Lumen. MANDO: Mando's Starter Pack is perfect for new customers, or to secure some last-minute stocking stuffers. It comes with a Solid Stick Deodorant, Cream Tube Deodorant, two free products of your choice (like Mini Body Wash and Deodorant Wipes), and free shipping. Luckily we have a discount code to help you get hooked on my favorite smelling whole body deodorant on the market. New customers get $5 off a Starter Pack with our exclusive code. That equates to over 40% off your Starter Pack Use code POA at ShopMando.com. PLEASE support our show and tell them we sent you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
After a riveting edition of This Week In Fancy, Professor Cho quizzes Lord Trae in a game of The Price Is Right: Sears Roebuck 1908 Catalog Edition! (Yall ain't gonna believe some of these ridiculous price disparities) Then Lord Trae reads a man's claim that he is indeed the most English man alive! Oh and yall, not that it's not always good, but Airmail is exceptional this week! Go to TraeCrowder.com to see us at Zanies in Nashville Dec 12-14! Please subscribe to WeLoveCorey.com for bonus “content” and to support the Cho! Check out our sponsors! EVERYPLATE: With affordable dinners for just $5.99 per serving, PLUS 50% off your first box, EveryPlate helps you save money for an stress-free holiday! Get this amazing deal by going to EveryPlate.com/PODCAST and entering code poa599. LUMEN: if you want to stay on track with your health this holiday season, go to lumen.me/POA to get 15% off your Lumen. MANDO: Mando's Starter Pack is perfect for new customers, or to secure some last-minute stocking stuffers. It comes with a Solid Stick Deodorant, Cream Tube Deodorant, two free products of your choice (like Mini Body Wash and Deodorant Wipes), and free shipping. Luckily we have a discount code to help you get hooked on my favorite smelling whole body deodorant on the market. New customers get $5 off a Starter Pack with our exclusive code. That equates to over 40% off your Starter Pack Use code POA at ShopMando.com. PLEASE support our show and tell them we sent you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
A thousand facets sits with the incomparable Carol Woolton, Historian, Writer and jewelry editor of Vogue. In the season finale of A thousand facets we discuss about her ancestors in the gemology world, her beginnings on her career and some of the incredible projects she is spearheading. Hope you enjoy our conversation. About: Carol Woolton is a Jewellery Historian, Editor, Broadcaster, Stylist and Jewellery Editor at British Vogue for over twenty years where she remains as Contributing Jewellery Director. She was the first jewellery editor of Tatler Magazine and has contributed widely to magazines, newspapers and online supplements around the world including The Financial Times, Vanity Fair, Air Mail, American Vogue and the Daily Telegraph. She curates jewellery exhibitions she is the author of five books covering the broad spectrum of antique and historic jewels to contemporary styles. More recently, she explored a century of style in Vogue: The Jewellery and Ideas and inspiration for living with crystals in The New Stone Age. You can follow Carol Woolton on Instagram @carolwoolton , visit her website https://carolwoolton.com/ Listen to her podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-jewels-could-talk-with-carol-woolton/id1564034433 Leopards: https://www.theleopards.co.uk/ Please visit @athousandfacets on Instagram to see some of the work discussed in this episode. Music by @chris_keys__ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Guests: Joe Posnanski, Josh Karp Author Joe Posnanski returns to discuss his great new book, WHY WE LOVE FOOTBALL. Writer Josh Karp is back to discuss his oral history of THE BIG LEBOWSKI for Air Mail.
We don't think it's an exaggeration to say that we're standing at the precipice of what could be a third world war. At the very least, the thing that we refer to as the “Free World” is burning at its outer edges. Just a few weeks ago, Iran launched its largest-ever ballistic missile attack against Israel, while its proxies, Hezbollah and Hamas, continue to wage war against Israel, making use of the steady flow of weaponry and funding from Iran—which is ever closer to having nuclear weapons. The war in Ukraine continues to rage, with both sides engaged in intense fighting across multiple fronts. After over a year and a half of relentless Russian bombardment, Ukraine is barely holding the line as the grinding war of attrition drags on. According to The Wall Street Journal, more than one million people on both sides of the border have been killed or injured. And then there's China, which has lately been attacking Philippine and Vietnamese vessels in the South China Sea, terrorizing international waters with impunity as the world watches anxiously. Moscow, Beijing, and Tehran have solidified a new axis of autocracy, united in its goal to unravel the Pax Americana and undermine American dominance. The question on our minds tonight is: What should America do about it? Many Americans are saying they don't want the United States to continue leading the world order. A 2023 Chicago Council on Global Affairs survey revealed that 42 percent of Americans think that the U.S. should stay out of world affairs, which is the highest number recorded since 1974. It is easy to talk about foreign policy as an abstract idea because war, for us, is thousands of miles away. But foreign policy is a matter of life and death. Not just for people around the world, but for the more than two million Americans that serve in our armed forces. It's conventional wisdom that American voters don't prioritize foreign policy. But this year, given the state of the world, that might be different. Which is why we hosted a debate, live in NYC, on this very topic. Arguing that, yes, the U.S. should still police the world is Bret Stephens. Stephens is an opinion columnist for The New York Times and editor in chief of Sapir. As a foreign affairs columnist of The Wall Street Journal, he was awarded the 2013 Pulitzer Prize for commentary. And he is the author of America in Retreat: The New Isolationism and the Coming Global Disorder. Bret was joined by James Kirchick, contributing opinion writer for The New York Times, writer at large for Air Mail, and contributing writer for Tablet. He is the author of The End of Europe: Dictators, Demagogues, and the Coming Dark Age. He is also a senior fellow at the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression. Arguing that no, the U.S. should not still police the world is none other than Matt Taibbi. Taibbi is a journalist, the founder of Racket News, and the author of 10 books, including four New York Times bestsellers. Matt was joined by Lee Fang. Lee is an independent investigative journalist, primarily writing on Substack at LeeFang.com. From 2015 to 2023, he was a reporter for The Intercept. Be it resolved: The U.S. should still police the world. If you liked what you heard from Honestly, the best way to support us is to go to TheFP.com and become a Free Press subscriber today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
There comes a point in every expat's life that you need to face the dilemma: am I staying or leaving? And this is often when you feel stuck, unfulfilled or in a struggle. It's a natural response to change the outer circumstances to feel better, but as an expat, that means you're also questioning your location!So should you change the country or should you change yourself?In this episode of This Expat Life I shed my light on this topic with real examples.And are you ready to implement some of the things I talk about? Then my new (live, online) programme The Co-Pilot is the perfect match for you! In 6 weeks I'll guide you through proven coaching methods & exercises so that you can get that deeper understanding of yourself I'm talking about, plus have concrete tools in hand to continue deepening your personal growth after the programme. Experience more fulfillment, ease & direction in your expat life without the constant overthinking you've come to rely on.And for this first round I have a pilot offer with 50% off AND a bonus 1:1(!) coaching session. But hurry, there are only a few spots left. Get in now, we start on November 4th! https://www.amandamaximecoaching.com/the-co-pilotPS. I'm taking a short podcast break - make sure to subscribe to be the first to know when a new episode comes out, or join my weekly Air Mail: https://www.amandamaximecoaching.com/email-opt-in
Shyan Zakeri is the founder and creator of Shy's Burgers. Byline calls it the pop-up responsible for NYC's coolest, greasiest, and most delicious burgers to date. Shy's Burgers has been featured on Grub Street, Air Mail, and Tasting Table. Wear Many Hats has been to almost all the Shy's Burgers pop ups only because it's our favorite comfort food. Shy's brings us comfort. Literal Genius. Please welcome Shyan Zakeri to Wear Many Hats. instagram.com/shysburgers instagram.com/wearmanyhatswmh instagram.com/rashadrastam rashadrastam.com wearmanyhats.com
The New Yorker has great writing, but Aarron and I are pretty sure we're not the only ones who flip through the magazine before reading any articles to find all the great cartoons from legends like Roz Chast or Saul Steinberg. So you can imagine how thrilled we were to get a chance to speak with Jason Chatfield, a New Yorker cartoonist who also happens to be a very talented illustrator, and aspiring stand-up comedian. Jason's also got a new Substack about his creative process called Process Junkie. We talk to him about the importance of embracing mistakes, how he collaborates with writers, the cartoon selection process at the New Yorker, and why creating a large volume of work is critical to creative success. Get bonus content and more on our Substack: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/jason-chatfield Bio Jason Chatfield is an award-winning Cartoonist, Author & Comedian based in New York City. For 16 years, he has been an internationally syndicated comic strip cartoonist, writing and drawing the iconic 102-year-old strip, Ginger Meggs, published daily through Andrews McMeel Syndication. His work has appeared in The New Yorker, MAD Magazine, Esquire, Variety, The Weekly Humorist, American Bystander, Wired, and Air Mail among others. His art has been exhibited in France, the UK, Australia, and all over the United States and in books published by Penguin Random House, Harper Collins, & Humorist Media. His latest book with Andrews McMeel Publishing will be out in Fall 2025. Chatfield is a past President of both the National Cartoonists' Society (Est. 1946) and Australian Cartoonists Association (Est. 1924). He is the youngest cartoonist to ever hold either of these positions. His weekly newsletter New York Cartoons is one of Substack's Featured Publications for 2023, with thousands of weekly subscribers. *** Premium Episodes on Design Better This is a premium episode on Design Better. We release two premium episodes per month, along with two free episodes for everyone. Premium subscribers also get access to our monthly AMAs with former guests, ad-free episodes, discounts and early access to workshops, access to our (small but growing!) library of books and participation in book giveaways, and our new enhanced newsletter The Brief that compiles salient insights, quotes, readings, and creative processes uncovered in the show. Upgrade to paid Visiting the links below is one of the best ways to support our show: *** Methodical Coffee: Join us for a coffee break with our friends at Methodical Coffee. In this segment, Methodical Coffee co-founder Will Shurtz teaches us how to select the right roast for our preferred flavor profile. Select your own preferred roast at methodicalcoffee.com, and use code "designbetter" for 10% off of your order. LinkedIn: Design Better is supported by our pals at LinkedIn—our favorite social network. It's hard to get your B2B marketing to land with the right audience. Let's face it, the web can be a very noisy place! If your message isn't targeted to the right audience—it just disappears into the noise. With LinkedIn Ads, you can precisely reach the professionals who are more likely to find your ad relevant. With LinkedIn's targeting capabilities, you can reach people by job title, industry, company, and more. Start converting your B2B audience into high quality leads today. To get a $100 credit on your next campaign go to LinkedIn/designbetter to claim your credit. *** If you're interested in sponsoring the show, please contact us at: sponsors@thecuriositydepartment.com If you'd like to submit a guest idea, please contact us at: contact@thecuriositydepartment.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Carolina de Armas es periodista, vive en Nueva York y trabaja como associate editor en Air Mail. Es de Puerto Rico, le gustan los días de nada, llora siempre con el fin de la misma película, lleva la música por dentro y cree firmemente en que estamos viviendo un ‘renacimiento puertorriqueño'. Hablamos en el Hotel sobre “La Pareja Perfecta”, películas románticas, vidas creativas, libros, cafés, spanglish, enamorarse de James Gandolfini, el peligro de contar una sola historia, reggaeton, fan fiction, Nora Ephron y Nueva York en otoño.
On part 2 of this week's episode, we talk with New Yorker cartoonist, Amanda Chung. Amanda's first cartoon in the New Yorker appeared in the Nov. 20, 2023 issue. Her cartoons have also appeared in Air Mail, The Weekly Humorist and other publications. Before being published, Amanda contacted the podcast and Vin offered to collaborate with her. It's been a successful collaboration and we discuss the dynamics of it during her interview.Amanda mentions a few resources that have helped her become a successful cartoonist. Here are links to a few of them:Emily Flake's class:https://learn.sawcomics.org/courses/really-funny-gag-cartoons-with-emily-flake-archiveAmy Kurzweil's Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/AmykurzweilQuentin Blakehttps://quentinblake.comOn Part 1 of the episode, we discuss the current contests:Winning captions for New Yorker contest #911 (Frankenstein's Pokémon).Finalists for contest #913 (The Art of the How Does that Make You Feel?) Current New Yorker contest #915 (Twas not curiosity killed the cat, twas the spin cycle). We also talk about our favorite cartoons from the current issue of the New Yorker and we also critique the CartoonStock contest.https://www.cartoonstock.com/caption-contest/currentToondeloo is a new weekly caption contest you can enter, hosted by the former New Yorker contest crowdsource developers and managers:https://www.toondeloo.comYou can buy original New Yorker cartoon art at Curated Cartoons:https://www.curatedcartoons.comSend us questions or comments to: Cartooncaptioncontestpodcast@gmail.com
>Akanksha is an ambitious management consultant and after two geographical transitions in 3 covid-years, she was left with a bit of a nagging feeling of something not being in place. Originally from India and now based in the Netherlands, she signed up for my 6-month group coaching programme to enable a shift.In this episode we talk about the inner transformation Akanksha had by being able to quiet her inner critic (most days!), with positive results on how she shows up at work & in relationships too. She also shares what she says to herself now and a practice that has become a favourite at the end of the day - plus a lot more. I loved seeing Akanksha's change over the past few months and think her story is a heartwarming testimony to the power of personal growth.And are you interested in joining my next group programme? Stay tuned! I'm planning the date as we speak. Sign up for my weekly Air Mail to be the first to hear when doors open and get an early bird discount.Air Mail: https://www.amandamaximecoaching.com/email-opt-inJoin my live event: https://www.amandamaximecoaching.com/live-eventDownload my FREE Wheel of Expat Life exercise: https://www.amandamaximecoaching.com/wheel-expat-life Read more about my 1:1 coaching: https://www.amandamaximecoaching.com
Episode: 1251 Katherine Stinson and her siblings help America learn to fly. Today, meet the Stinson kids.
We are diving deep into the world of wealth, class, and privilege with Sanibel, author of the forthcoming novel To Have and Have More and an expert on the subtle—and not-so-subtle—ways the ultra-wealthy wield their status. If you've ever been curious about the behaviors and dynamics that go beyond “quiet luxury” or the “nepo baby” conversation, you'll enjoy this conversation. Sanibel breaks down concepts like stealth privilege, coattail riders, and what she calls the rich person's “cheat code.” We'll also unpack the history of our cultural obsession with wealth in the U.S., why some believe wealth is a poison to our culture and explore why being "too rich" might just make you less empathetic.More about Sanibel: She is a writer based in NYC. She grew up in Princeton, NJ and studied Classics at the University of Pennsylvania before getting her MFA at The New School. Her essays appear in New York, Air Mail, ELLE, and Lit Hub. You can follow Sanibel on TikTok and Instagram.
It's August and we've been on vacation recently, so our inbox is pretty stuffed with emails, feedback and questions from you. Brian Sumers and Brett Snyder read feedback from a former CEO (whose former company was the subject of a recent episode) and answer listeners' questions about the fate of ULCCs in Europe, Southwest's metal needs, exemplary C-suite behavior, and more.We would like to thank Ferrovial and TCG Digital for sponsoring The Air Show.Questions, responses or feedback? Visit www.theairshowpodcast.com to get in touch with us.
Here's the best of You Betcha Radio from the last 4 years (00:00:01) Ryan catches bass (00:01:30-00:17:01) Duckwalk (00:17:02-00:43:05) 3rd Annual YBR Spelling Bee (00:43:07-00:50:33) Myles diss track (00:50:35-01:26:00) Myles Death hike in Hawaii (01:26:02-01:37:14) Revisit our 2021 New Years resolutions (01:38:54-2:10:25) Tyler hates grilling (02:10:26-02:16:01) Jerrod's Airmail idea (02:16:02-02:39:39) Tracking a Mountain Lion (02:39:41-02:49:21) Going to Doctor's office (02:49:22-02:58:22) Hell yeah (02:58:24-03:14:35) Ryan's trip to Washington D.C. Bonus episodes every week: ➡️ https://www.patreon.com/youbetcharadio Buy our merch: ➡️ https://ohhyoubetcha.com/collections/products Check out our Youtube ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/@youbetcharadio
David and Rachel continue discussing the interplay between aviation and federal regulation, this time with a story many of us can relate to about how those at the top often don't understand what's involved in what they want to do.
This week on the program, Trae makes the bold claim that perhaps under certain situations, a monarchy wouldn't be the worst thing in the world (we have not gone full Monarchist, y'all, it was a thought starter lol) We discuss how back in the day kings used to at least have the decency to risk thier lives in war and what not! Oh and there was also a conversation CHO started using a bottle of Skin Bracer after shave that was basically... what were some things you thought were fancy as a kid but turns out they werent at all? Air Mail was also fun this week! Remember to send your letters in to PuttinOnAirs@Gmail.com TraeCrowder.com BonusCorey.com Dont forget to support our sponsors! Go to ChubbiesShorts.com/POA to get 20% off your order! Go to BetterHelp.com/POA and get started on treating your brain right! Go to BlueChew.com and use the promo code POA to try Blue Chew FREE!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This week on the program, Trae makes the bold claim that perhaps under certain situations, a monarchy wouldn't be the worst thing in the world (we have not gone full Monarchist, y'all, it was a thought starter lol) We discuss how back in the day kings used to at least have the decency to risk thier lives in war and what not! Oh and there was also a conversation CHO started using a bottle of Skin Bracer after shave that was basically... what were some things you thought were fancy as a kid but turns out they werent at all? Air Mail was also fun this week! Remember to send your letters in to PuttinOnAirs@Gmail.com TraeCrowder.com BonusCorey.com Dont forget to support our sponsors! Go to ChubbiesShorts.com/POA to get 20% off your order! Go to BetterHelp.com/POA and get started on treating your brain right! Go to BlueChew.com and use the promo code POA to try Blue Chew FREE!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
This episode is sponsored by Better Help. Is the famed hedge fund Bridgewater Associates operating a cult in plain sight? Or is it just a little bit culty? Journalist and author Rob Copeland joins us for a deep dive into Wall Street's seedy underbelly, and the troubling story of Bridgewater's founder—the pseudo philosopher-king Ray Dalio. You'll want to read Rob's NYT bestseller ‘The Fund' this summer, if you haven't already, and then you can decide whether or not you agree with us that Ray Dalio is radiating serious Keith Raniere vibes. Rob joins us to chat about Dalio's strange world and the uncanny parallels between the planet's largest hedge fund and NXIVM. About Rob Copeland: Rob Copeland is a finance reporter for the New York Times. He was previously the longtime hedge-fund beat reporter at the Wall Street Journal, and has also covered Silicon Valley and the hidden worlds of the wealthy and powerful. His front-page investigations into Bridgewater Associates won a New York Press Club award; he was also awarded an honorable mention twice by the Society of American Business Writers (SABEW) and was named a News Media Alliance "Rising Star" (formerly Top 30 Under 30). He has appeared on ABC's "Good Morning America," NPR and other major news networks. His NYT Bestseller The Fund was published in late 2023, and we get why it topped the charts: We think it is a freakin' page turner! Show Notes: Assorted articles about The Fund, and Ray Dalio. (Sorry, but we don't control paywalls.) NY Post article Business Insider article Vanity Fair article NY Mag article with book excerpt Airmail article NY Times feature (2017) Also…let it be known that: The views and opinions expressed on A Little Bit Culty do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything. Nobody's mad at you, just don't be a culty fuckwad. Check out our lovely sponsors Join ‘A Little Bit Culty' on Patreon Get poppin' fresh ALBC Swag Support the pod and smash this link Cult awareness and recovery resources Watch Sarah's TEDTalk Credits: Executive Producers: Sarah Edmondson & Anthony Ames Production Partner: Citizens of Sound Producer: Will Retherford Writer & Co-Creator: Jess Tardy Theme Song: “Cultivated” by Jon Bryant co-written with Nygel Asselin
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