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Last week, AJC CEO Ted Deutch traveled to Philadelphia to meet with Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro for an in-depth discussion on combating antisemitism, ensuring the future vitality of Jewish communities in Pennsylvania and beyond, and addressing the challenges posed by rising political polarization both locally and nationally. “When it comes to antisemitism . . . there is no nuance. Antisemitism, bigotry, and hatred in all forms is not okay. Everyone in a position of public trust . . . has a responsibility to speak and act with moral clarity and speak out against it,” said Governor Shapiro. AJC is a 501(c)3 not-for-profit organization. AJC neither supports nor opposes candidates for elective office. Watch: AJC CEO Ted Deutch, Gov. Josh Shapiro Say Fight Against Antisemitism Must Be Bipartisan Listen – AJC Podcasts: The Forgotten Exodus: with Hen Mazzig, Einat Admony, and more. People of the Pod: Mijal Bitton on What It Means to Be a Jew Today The Next Chapter in Catholic-Jewish Relations What's Next for the Abraham Accords Under President Trump? Honoring Israel's Lone Soldiers This Thanksgiving: Celebrating Service and Sacrifice Away from Home The ICC Issues Arrest Warrants: What You Need to Know Follow People of the Pod on your favorite podcast app, and learn more at AJC.org/PeopleofthePod You can reach us at: peopleofthepod@ajc.org If you've appreciated this episode, please be sure to tell your friends, and rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. __ Transcript of Conversation with Ted Detuch and Josh Shapiro: Manya Brachear Pashman: Last week, AJC CEO Ted Deutch traveled to Philadelphia and sat down with Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro for a conversation about antisemitism, the future of Jewish communities in Pennsylvania and across the nation, and growing political polarization not only in Philadelphia but throughout the country. The conversation was so powerful, we wanted to share it with a wider audience. So, I turn it over to Ted and Governor Shapiro. Ted Deutch: I'm going to start just by fessing up to something that I tried to do, that I fortunately failed at. I don't often tout my failure, but there was a time some number of years ago, Governor, where I thought that your future should take you to the United States House of Representatives. I tried to convince you to run for Congress, and you had other plans. Fast forward many years, thank God I was wrong, and thank you for the remarkable job you've done as governor of Pennsylvania. Josh Shapiro: Thank you. It's so good to be with you. Ted Deutch: Obviously, it's a really great to be with you. But I had, I wanted to break the ice just a little bit, if I may, with just some quick questions, just to lose, just to loosen you up a little, if that's alright. Josh Shapiro: Do I not seem loose? I feel pretty loose. Ted Deutch: Alright, very quickly. Favorite eagle of all time? Josh Shapiro: You know what I was on Eagles pregame live just yesterday, before the Birds played the Steelers. Birds beat the Steelers, by the way. And I got to sit next to Jaws. Ron Jaworski, and like, it was just a normal day. I was a little bit starstruck. So I guess I'd go with Jaws. Yeah. Ted Deutch: Alright. Better play-by-play announcer– Merrill Reese, Gene Hart? Josh Shapiro: Oh my God, come on. All right. That's like asking me to pick between my kids. Ted Deutch: Alright, I'll move on. Moving on, moving on, moving on. Some people here who don't, the handful who don't really get this at all, and my staff, who's saying, why are you doing this. Josh Shapiro: Merrill Reese by the way is about to get inducted into the Hall of Fame for, they do once a year, they do an announcer, and Merrill just won that award this year. Pretty amazing. Ted Deutch: He is amazing. Best Philly movie ever made? Josh Shapiro: Rocky. Ted Deutch: Easy. Thank you. Inappropriate question, perhaps at an AJC dinner, provolone or swiss? Josh Shapiro: I do enjoy provolone, but I'm not a cheesesteak guy, so. We have a kosher governor's residence. I can't be out eating cheesesteaks. Ted Deutch: It was a bit of a trick question, I'll admit. And then we'll just finish this off. Favorite Israeli food? Josh Shapiro: Falafel, but not from some fancy restaurant, though I do love Goldies and I love Michael, but on some like stand in the middle of nowhere in Israel, it's always delicious. Ted Deutch: This also gives me an opportunity to acknowledge Tsach Saar, who is the Consul General of Israel. Thank you very much for being here. All right, I tried. Thanks for playing along. Josh Shapiro: Did I not do well? You did try. Ted Deutch: You did great. You did great. Thank you. Josh Shapiro: No more lightning round? Ted Deutch: I have more. Josh Shapiro: Now we got to do this serious stuff? Ted Deutch: We do. And frankly, look, your answer to the silly question about cheesesteaks is the perfect lead in to my first question for you. The first governor, I grew up in Bethlehem, the first governor I remember was governor Milton Shapp, who was born Milton Shapiro. So in that respect, you're actually the second Governor Shapiro in Pennsylvania's history. He was governor from 1971 to 79. But you are Governor Shapiro. You're a proud Jew who dismisses a question about cheesesteaks because you have a kosher home. You quote Pirkei Avot in your life as governor and the speeches that you give. It's so clear, and we and everyone has come to know how important Shabbat dinner is for you, with your family. Your Judaism matters to you a lot, and for those of us who are so involved in the community, it's something that obviously we admire. But I would love to hear a little bit more about how it informs what you do and why it's so important. Josh Shapiro: I want to just say on a serious note, how grateful I am to AJC for the important work that you do every day, how grateful I am to Ted, who's been a friend for more than a decade. How thankful I am to the leaders here who raise money and do this important work. For Mark, who I think asked me to do this like a year ago, and has checked in with me each month to make sure he's going to do it. I'm proud to do it, and to the Liebmans, and everyone, I appreciate what you all do. I just celebrated, Lori noted the other night that I've been in public office for 20 years, and I'm a proud public servant. I think public service is a noble profession, and the reason I am in public service, it's fitting that my dad is here tonight, is because of my family and because of my faith. Both draw me to service. Our faith teaches us that, as you mentioned, I quote Pirkei Avot. I quote it in a synagogue. I'll quote it at a Kiwanis Club. I was proud to quote it from the pulpit at Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, Georgia, just a couple months ago, that no one is required to complete the task, but neither are we free to refrain from it. Meaning each of us has a responsibility to get off the sidelines, get in the game and do our part. Now, doing our part can come in a lot of different ways. Some people do their part in a courtroom. Some people do their part in a business. Some people do their part through charitable work, like here at AJC. For me, my part is through public service. My part is through serving my community, and I'm honored to do it. I share that with you because as I was getting ready to launch my campaign for governor, you may recall I was attorney general at the time, a group of us came together and said, Well, how do we want to kind of reintroduce you to the good people of Pennsylvania as you launch your campaign? You could start by talking about a policy or for some initiative you want to get past, but actually what I wanted to do was talk about the issue I just mentioned to you, what drew me to want to serve in the first place. Why I was even contemplating running to be your governor. And so we had a long conversation about what motivates me, Ted, and why I do this. To me, being able to bring together family and faith was really important, and the best way to show that is by doing what I do every single Friday night since I was a kid, and what we continue to do, and that is having Shabbat dinner with my family. And so the first ad in my campaign was all of us sitting around the Shabbat dinner table. Now, fun fact for all of you, I think we filmed it like on a Tuesday, so it really wasn't Shabbat. My kids remind me of that, but we did have everything on the table. And what was so interesting about it was, after the ad started running, and I would show up in communities where there aren't a lot of Jews, if any Jews, in Pennsylvania. Folks would grab me and say, Hey, I saw your ad. That was great. I want to tell you what Sunday lunch is like after I get home from church. I want to tell you what Christmas dinner is like in our family. I want you to know what we experience when we leave our place of worship. And in a lot of ways, it actually brought me closer together with the community. We were able to see one another in a deeper way. I think faith has allowed me to get into living rooms and conversations and communities in a much deeper way than perhaps I ever could before, as I think it is critically important if you want to be a public servant, to be true to who you are and express that to folks. So I'm proud of who I am. I'm proud of the way I've lived my life. I'm proud of the way Lori and I are raising our four children, and I appreciate the fact that the good people of Pennsylvania acknowledge that and open themselves up and share that back with me as I go out serving them as their governor. Ted Deutch: The importance of Shabbat dinner, part of it, obviously is your Judaism, but it also anchoring for your family. And for everyone that you interact with to know that on Friday nights, that's the time for your family. There's something there in a time of really polarizing politics and fragmentation of society, there's something there that we should learn from, right? Josh Shapiro: I just think making sure you're committed to family, you're committed to yourself at some key moments, each day, each week, is really important. Lori and I live crazy lives right now, running all over the place. I'm not complaining. I asked for this, and I love what I do. I hope you can tell the joy that I have every day in serving you as your governor. And no matter where we are during the week, we always know, Friday night we're going to be together. We always know that it's going to be a moment where we can be with the kids and have conversations with them. And I'll be honest with you, Ted. I mean, some of it, of course, is the prayers and the rituals and the religious aspect of it, but so much of it is just the family part of it, and being grounded in that, and knowing that that will be our moment during the week, whether we're at the governor's residence or our home in Montgomery County, we are always together Friday night, and it's something we don't compromise on. I think it's important that you've got to set those boundaries. You got to say what's important. And that's exactly what we do. Ted Deutch: It's especially important to have time to be together in this period where, for almost 15 months, the community has really, in so many ways, struggled. We had the deadliest attack on the Jewish community since the Holocaust, the equivalent, just in terms that people in America can try to understand. The 1200 people, the equivalent of 45,000 Americans, God forbid, if you use the same ratios, the equivalent of 7000 people being taken hostage. Now still, 100 hostages still being held beneath Gaza. It's been really hard for the community. And yes, Israel has fortunately made advances, and from a geostrategic standpoint, is doing better. But this has still been really difficult for the community, for those of us who care about Israel, and then layer on top of that, the antisemitism that we've seen, that you've been so outspoken about in the work that you do. How, again, given what's at your core, is it hard sometimes with the way that we're feeling, the way that you feel as a committed Jew, in the face of all this, to speak about it? Do you ever feel that you need to hold back because this is all so personal to you? Josh Shapiro: I never feel like I need to hold back. I think it is always important to speak out. But I also think it is important that we have two separate conversations, one about antisemitism and the other about Israel. When it comes to antisemitism, I think it is critically important that folks understand: there is no nuance in that conversation. Antisemitism, hatred, bigotry in all forms. It is not okay. And everyone, everyone in a position of public trust, everyone has a responsibility to speak and act with moral clarity, to speak out against it, and it doesn't matter who is sharing those sentiments. If they're members of your own party, if they're people who you otherwise might agree with on some other issue, we have a responsibility to speak out against it, and we have a responsibility as a community to be unified against antisemitism, hatred, bigotry, in all forms. There is no nuance on that. When it comes to the issue of Israel and foreign policy and Middle East policy, that's a far more gray area. And I think it is important to continue to speak out in support of Israel, and I think it is also acceptable, if one wants to respectfully criticize a policy coming from the Israeli government, there is a difference there. And so what I try and do is not hold back in any way, but to make sure folks understand we are having two different conversations. We got to speak out and stop antisemitism in our communities, and yes, we can express an opinion as it relates to the policies in Israel or by the Israeli government. And I think it is also critically important to acknowledge the very real fact that there is antisemitism in this country. There is antisemitism in this Commonwealth, and it is on the left and it is on the right, and there is no one party that has a clean record on it, and we've got to make sure that no matter who is putting forth those words of hate, they are condemned. Ted Deutch: AJC is fiercely non-partisan in the way that we do our work and recognize and talk constantly, try to make the point exactly the way you have. That there's antisemitism, wherever it is, we have to call it out. But that it's harder for some to see it or to call it out when it's among their friends, in their own party, than if it's in the other party. This was something that I dealt with as a member of Congress. But when it when conversations turn to you during the election and people refer to you as Genocide Josh. Josh Shapiro: Yeah, I saw that. Ted Deutch: Yeah. There are those, I think we have to acknowledge it's on both sides. And clearly there are those on the far left who don't want to criticize Israel, but have now taken the position that Israel essentially has no right to exist. That then bring that into that kind of language, which is clearly antisemitic in the way it's applied. How do you deal with that? Josh Shapiro: I must tell you, it did not upset me and it didn't affect me. What did upset me was the way those attacks against me made other people feel. As I was traveling across this commonwealth, across the country, folks would come over to me and tell me, you know, I saw what they said about you, and it was making them feel less safe in their communities. It was making them feel less safe in their schools or on their college campuses. That upset me. And on that I felt a responsibility to try and lift them up and strengthen them, and let them know that they should be proud of who they are. I'm proud of who I am, and sort of help them brush off the noise and recognizing and I think this is an important point, that while a lot of that noise did exist, and it is empirically true that antisemitism is on the rise, and thank God for groups like AJC doing this work. The vast, vast, vast majority of people that I come across every day, they're good people. They're not bigots, they're not spewing hate, they're actually looking to try and figure out ways in which we can bring people together. That is what I see. And so I'm comforted by that every day. I'm not offended or upset by the attacks that people make against me, even the antisemitic attacks against me. What I get upset about, what I worry about, is how it makes other people feel, and whether that causes them to retreat or causes them to maybe not do something they were going to do or not, go somewhere where they were going to go. That is upsetting to me, and I try and spend as much time as I can with the people who are affected by that, to try and make sure they have the strength to continue to go forward and lead by example in a way that gives them the strength that they need to move forward. Ted Deutch: And sometimes, while the overwhelming majority of people are good, I agree with you, and I think it's important for us to realize that the data tells us that the vast majority of Americans are supportive of Israel as well, and are overwhelmingly opposed to antisemitism. Small numbers can do real damage. And that's what we saw on a number of college campuses, where the the protests, some of them going back to October 8, which were not protests about, obviously, about the Israeli government, but just protests in support of Hamas, some of these protests in support of a terror group, really put people at risk. And you were very clear in the way that you approach that, right here in Philadelphia and around the state. How should, now that we're 15 months in, AJC has worked with universities around the country to try to ensure that they're doing what they need to to fight antisemitism. From your perspective, how are they doing, how are we doing, 15 months later? Josh Shapiro: I commend AJC for the important work they've done on college campuses. And I don't know if John Fry is still here, the president of Temple University, and an outstanding leader who was at Drexel University for some time and now is at Temple. He's an example of a strong leader dealing with these challenges on campus. And there are others to be sure. Look, I think it is critically important that we protect people's first amendment rights to be able to protest on campus, protest on our streets, they of course, have to follow the rules of the road, whether on campus or in a city, Commonwealth, you name it, but they should be able to express themselves. But that expression is not okay if you're violating the rules of the campus, the rules of the city or the community. It's also not okay if it puts other people at risk. Universities have a moral and a legal responsibility to the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and to this country to keep all students safe on campus. And for some universities, I think they were willing to forgo that responsibility, or it got a little bit out of balance. Some universities were willing to accept a little bit of hate over here, but no hate over here, and that's not okay. Hate and bigotry in all forms, needs to be condemned. All students need to be safe on campus, and yes, there should be places where students can express themselves and have their views heard. So while I realize there's a lot of gray area when it comes to figuring out exactly where that line is, I do think it's important everybody adhere to those basic principles. And there are many colleges and universities here in Pennsylvania that are. I think, candidly, Penn lost its way. They are working to get back. I think Susanna Lachs-Adler and others. Susanna has done really wonderful work, and there's some important work there happening under their interim president. I think they are moving in the right direction there, and many other universities are as well. And so I hope, to get to the heart of your question, 15 months later, we're in a position where students feel safe, to be able to both go to class and to be able to protest within the bounds of the rules on campus, and that we continue to be balanced in our approach there. Ted Deutch: When there is messaging sent, whether from faculty or from student groups or from other places on campus that say you are not welcome in this group, or, frankly, in this classroom, simply because you are a Zionist, simply because you believe in the modern state of Israel, that that also can't be acceptable because of what it says, the message that it sends to students, and how it puts people at risk. Josh Shapiro: Without question. I mean, if you're a student on one of these campuses, you literally have a legal right to be safe in these communities and on these campuses. And university leaders have to remember that. I gotta tell you, these students, they're scared. You know, Hanukkah last year was sort of right around the time that these protests were really kicking up and students were incredibly scared. I heard from a number of students at Penn who reached out to me, reached out to my wife, and we decided to forgo lighting our hanukkiah for the first night at the governor's residence. Got in the trucks, drove to Penn, and we lit the hanukkiot at Penn's Hillel with those students. We wanted to make sure that they knew their governor, their first lady, had their backs, and that they were going to be safe on campus. And that we were going to make sure that university leaders ensured their safety and their well being on campus. Again, I want to be really clear. Students have a right to protest. Their voices should be heard. I think students have helped usher in change in this country for generations. We want to hear their voices, but not at the expense of the safety and well being of any other student. That's where you got to draw a line. Ted Deutch: You have, you've talked a lot about building a coalition to combat hatred, and you've invoked Rabbi Heschel, and you've invoked his work with Dr. King during the Civil Rights era. And it's, I think it's true for so many of us, that having invested so much time in those really important relationships, there was some disappointment with response after October 7, and yet, the only option, from our perspective, is to double down. One, because it's the right thing to do, and two, because the Jewish community represents .02% of the population in the world. We need allies. And this has been really central to AJC. And I know Stephanie Sun is here, co-chair of Papaja, and I think Anthony Rosado, co-chair of the Latino Jewish Coalition is here. And I appreciate their being here and their leadership. This is a really important way to continue to combat antisemitism and simultaneously to make sure that Zionists, the people who believe in Israel, aren't excluded. Can you just talk about, I know this is important to you. Can you talk about how to build those kinds of coalitions that will help our community and and beyond? Josh Shapiro: You have to build coalitions if you want to make any progress here in this Commonwealth and in the country. I'm actually the only governor in the entire country with a divided legislature, right? So I've got a State Senate led by Republicans, State House led by Democrats. I literally can't get a bill to my desk unless some number of Democrats and some number of Republicans support it. And so you're forced to have dialogue. You're forced to come together. That's naturally who I am, trying to bring people together. But I want you to know it is. It is required here in Pennsylvania if we want to make progress. We made a hell of a lot of progress, fixing an unconstitutional education system, cutting taxes six times, hiring over 1000 new state troopers and police officers in Pennsylvania, and passing some of the most sweeping criminal justice reforms ever in the history of Pennsylvania. At the same time, we've been able to invest $3 billion in private capital investment to create over 130,000 new jobs. I've only been governor two years. We're getting a lot of stuff done. I share this with you because we understand the critical importance of building coalitions. Now I'll tell you who else understood that, the person whose portrait hangs in my office right above my desk, William Penn. I share that with you because when William Penn helped build what is now the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, he built this as a place that would be warm and welcoming for all, where people of all different faiths would be forced together to actually work together to make progress in this commonwealth. That was his vision, and I view it as my responsibility, as someone who's been handed the baton from William Penn, and actually a whole lot of people in between, of course, to pick up on the work that was done before I got here and to continue it, in the spirit that that Penn started. A spirit where we want to make sure we respect people, no matter what they look like, where they come from, who they love, who they pray to, and that those folks are represented around the table. And when they're around the table, and they feel like they have the freedom and the safety to be able to talk and to share their ideas and their views and their policies, that's what's going to allow us to build a coalition, to be able to get meaningful things done, to be able to make progress. You mentioned Heschel and King. I've had a lot of conversations about Heschel and King with Reverend Warnock, who I think is one of the great leaders in our country. He gave me the privilege of being able to speak at the pulpit at Ebenezer Baptist Church where Dr. King was, of course, the prayer leader there. We spoke about Heschel and King from Ebenezer, the need to be able to bring the black community and the Jewish community closer together, to be able to do this important work. My friend David's here. He's done work with Operation Understanding and other organizations like that, that bring people from different walks of life together. And if we can do that more, we can understand one another, we can reduce the amount of hate and bigotry in our community, and we can make progress in the spirit of William Penn, to fill in the work that Heschel and King started, and to be able to create a safer community for all of us. Ted Deutch: I want to follow up on this note of bipartisanship. You talked about the division and the legislature in Harrisburg, and I want to just focus on Israel for a moment. We have, you have, sorry, it's been a long time since I lived in Pennsylvania. Josh Shapiro: You're still one of us. You're a Birds fan. Ted Deutch: Thank you. Thank you very much. Josh Shapiro: And he went to Camp Ramah. This guy's got a whole pedigree. Ted Deutch: Lehigh Valley, in my blood. Look, if you think about support for Israel in Pennsylvania, there were two pro Israel Democratic senators. There will now be a pro Israel Democratic senator in Senator Fetterman, whose support has been nothing short of spectacular. You have strong Republican support, including from my good friend, Congressman Fitzpatrick from the area as well. And in many ways, it's a good reminder of the importance of bipartisan support for Israel. As we look into the future, given the challenges that Israel faces, is that Pennsylvania model of bipartisan support from both senators and bipartisan support from House members and a Democratic governor, is that the model that we should continue to expect to see around the country and will both parties continue to be as strongly pro Israel as they could be? Josh Shapiro: Look, I'm a proud Democrat, and I want to make sure that the Democratic Party continues to stand with Israel, and I'm going to continue to do my part to raise my voice, to ensure that it does. I lament the fact that in recent years, the issue of Israel, so to speak, has become weaponized in our political system. I think Israel is far safer and far stronger when the relationship that elected officials in America have is on a really bipartisan or nonpartisan basis. And I think there have been some organizations, quite candidly, that have tried to throw a monkey wrench in that idea, and instead have injected too much partisanship into that relationship. In the long run that makes Israel less safe. Maybe in the short run, given the way the political dynamics are in the country today, it could work to Israel's advantage. But mark my words, in the long run, politicizing America's relationship with Israel is not in the best interest of Israel long term, from a safety and a security standpoint. And so I believe the Pennsylvania model is the right way, where we've got Republicans and Democrats alike standing up and speaking out in support of Israel, and by the way, challenging Israel, where Israel needs to be challenged, and also making sure that we are speaking with a unified bipartisan voice against antisemitism, and where antisemitism rears its ugly head, no matter what political party or affiliation or left leaning or right leaning person said it, or group said it, that we join together in standing up and speaking out against it. I think there's something to our Pennsylvania model, and I'd like to see it more across the country. Ted Deutch: I want to thank you really so much for this conversation, and I want to give you a chance to end with this, for all of the challenges that we're facing, it's kind of a heavy conversation. What is it that you're most hopeful about at this moment, thinking about our community and the future and your life and your world? Josh Shapiro: You know, I get asked a lot like, how do you stay so optimistic and so upbeat, given all the challenges there are out in the world, and there are so many challenges, there's challenges like what we're talking about here tonight with antisemitism. There's other challenges that the world is confronting, and probably in another 40 days or so, we're going to confront even more challenges in this country. But what, what I think keeps me so up and so hopeful every day is the privilege I have to serve as your governor and travel around to different communities and different neighborhoods and just meet people who are doing remarkable things every day. It is a privilege I wish every Pennsylvanian had. To go and to see these nonprofits who are doing life saving and life changing work. To see the incredible work that's happening in some of our skyscrapers here in Philly and our farmlands out in rural communities across Pennsylvania. There are so many people who are literally changing the world, doing tikkun olam in their neighborhoods. And you know what? They're not down by the news cycle that I know really can bum a lot of people out. These people give me hope, and these people fuel my energy every day to go out and do this work as governor, and they make me optimistic and hopeful. And so while I leave you with this, while I understand the critically important role AJC plays to continue to combat hatred and bigotry and antisemitism, and you do a great job doing that work, while we're focused on those negative things that we've got to combat, I hope you'll also take a moment to appreciate the positive in our communities and understand that there is so much good out there and so many people doing so much good. And that is what fuels me. That's what keeps me up and excited. And that is what I think you know, really, in many ways, in the spirit of Penn, we get to see every day in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. So we need to continue to do this hard work that AJC calls us to do. But let's never lose sight of the positivity that's out there that fuels my optimism every day. Ted Deutch: We're so grateful. Governor Shapiro, thank you very, very much. Josh Shapiro: Thank you. Thank you, Ted.
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TRUE CRIME: Gene Hart And The Mysterious and Unsolved Oklahoma Girl Scout Camping Murders3 girls, brutally murdered in a bloody tent scene while on a trip with her girl scout group. Counselors heard noises, things were stolen, and these girls...were killed. Gene Leroy Hart was first named as a suspect in the case in 1977 and even stood trial two years later, but was acquitted by a jury.TRUE CRIME Gene Hart And The Mysterious and Unsolved Oklahoma Girl Scout Camping Murders True Crime Podcast 2023 Police Interrogations, 911 Calls True Police Stories Podcast
TRUE CRIME: Gene Hart And The Mysterious and Unsolved Oklahoma Girl Scout Camping Murders3 girls, brutally murdered in a bloody tent scene while on a trip with her girl scout group. Counselors heard noises, things were stolen, and these girls...were killed. Gene Leroy Hart was first named as a suspect in the case in 1977 and even stood trial two years later, but was acquitted by a jury.TRUE CRIME: Gene Hart And The Mysterious and Unsolved Oklahoma Girl Scout Camping MurdersKURIOUS - FOR ALL THINGS STRANGE
As our investigation into "The Girl Scout Murders" continues, evidence points to Gene Hart as them person who murdered three little girls, but not everyone thought so. In fact a jury acquits the convicted rapist, and prison escapee. Why? Part two of "The Girl Scout Murders" today on Crime Stories. Joining Nancy Grace Today: Kent Frates - Attorney (Oklahoma City, OK), Former Minority Leader Oklahoma House of Representatives, Author: “Oklahoma's Most Notorious Crimes" Shawn Roberson, Ph.D. - Licensed Psychologist (Edmond, Oklahoma), Forensic psychologist for over 20 years, Conducted thousands of criminal-forensic evaluations across Oklahoma, including Oklahoma State Penitentiary (where Gene Leroy Hart died), drshawnroberson.com, James Powell - Former Senior Agent, Oklahoma State Bureau Of Investigation, Former Air Force Office of Special Investigations Agent, Former Senior Intelligence Security Advisor for the Office of Military Commissions at Joint Task Force Guantanamo, Owner: "The Investigator, LLC" Joe Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet", Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan" Faith Phillips - Cherokee Screenwriter, Author: “Now I Lay Me Down”, Website: ReadBooksBy.Faith, Twitter: @phillips_faith, Facebook: “Faith Phillips” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Gene spent ten years devoted to deep meditation and expanded states of consciousness before working publicly to share his insights; publishing his first book, 'Beyond Dreaming'. He holds a BA Hons degree in Philosophy, specialising in phenomenology and the experience of 'Gnosis' through lucid dreaming and astral projection. He was part of a Gnostic school for several years and is still a devoted student of Gnosticism while maintaining his own broader approach. For Gene, astral projection became the gateway to realising the urgency and necessity of following a path of self-knowledge, and as he progressed, teaching others became a natural part of that path. Gene teaches how astral projection is an integral part of our reality and a crucial part of each person's journey of 'awakening'. Today, he enjoys freely sharing knowledge publicly on his YouTube channel, 'Astral Doorway' and he's currently writing his next book, 'The Fire of Inner Revolution'." ⚡️Gene's Book: https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Dreaming-Experiences-Consciousness-Synonymous/dp/B08X9H1WXN/ ⚡️Gene's Videos: What Is Gnosis? https://youtu.be/qH2HHMqqz5M The Three Factors of Awakening Consciousness: https://youtu.be/e_oHJz_2wLY What's the Difference Between Dreams & Astral Projections? https://youtu.be/J7KweY07emc Transmutation of Sexual Energy: https://youtu.be/DAYSxjc-8ro Sexual Alchemy / White Tantra: https://youtu.be/XUzggtYQ9ic ⚡️Gene's Website: https://multidimensionaljournal.com ⚡️Other Awakening-Consciousness Resources: Amazing youtube channel that I trust: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo_fdaL6nGtL3fjyP8NsNaw The Gnostic Method App: https://thegnosticmethod.beezer.com/ Related podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6AHuLQUTu86fbBXPnqSl8o?si=18f277a565e84572 Related book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BC2CDP1T Gnostic Resource website: www.glorian.org Outline of Occult Sciences by Rudolf Steiner: https://amzn.to/3R2C0dS
Today on The Anthony Gargano Show, Anthony opens the show breaking down what the Phillies did prior to yesterday's trade deadline. He gives Dave Dombrowski high remarks and believes he made this team better while also holding onto their top prospects. The guys also remember the legacy of the great Vin Scully (0:00-46:25). In today's Morning Thoughts, Andrew found himself missing the fall weather and football season. Anthony is thinking about how picky Italians are when it comes to their food. ESPN's Kevin Negandhi joins the show to talk about Vin Scully and the great broadcasters of our time (46:25-1:29:48). The guys go through some more of the great announcers of our time including Harry Kalas and Gene Hart. They also get into a conversation about baseball cards (1:29:48-2:13:16). What are some of the most clutch home runs in MLB history? Anthony then takes a few more calls to finish out the show (2:13:16-2:57:38).
Jim Jackson, who has served as the Philadelphia Flyers play-by-play broadcaster since 1995, has put together one hell of a broadcasting career with the Philadelphia Flyers. Working alongside Keith Jones, who is the color analyst for Flyers gameday telecasts, Jackson captivates those at home listening to Flyers games with his unique voice and amazing hockey knowledge that radiates throughout homes around the region. Before securing a job with the Philadelphia Flyers, Jackson began his professional career broadcasting for the now-defunct AHL team Utica Devils for a couple of seasons. Graduating from Syracuse University, Jackson got his first real taste in the broadcasting industry while attending the university. Jackson got his first gig with the Flyers when he was 30 years old in 1993. He replaced Gene Hart, the legendary broadcaster, as the radio play-by-play broadcaster. Hart went back to doing television broadcasts for the team. Fans and listeners of the broadcasts were quick to praise Jackson for his knowledge of the game and the style of his radio casts. Just two seasons later, the Flyers announced Jackson would serve as the television play-by-play broadcaster for broadcasts on Comcast SportsNet, which is now known as NBC Sports Philadelphia. Since then, the 58-year old New York native Jackson has become the voice of the Flyers and a fan-favorite. #jimjackson #philadelphiaflyers #livewithcdp #podcast #guest #playbyplayannouncer #nhl #philadelphiaphillies #nbcsportsphiladelphia #television #media #youtubechannel #facebooklive #twitter #audio #applepodcasts #googlepodcasts #spotify #anchorfm #linkedin #pocketcasts #linkedin #radiopublic #genehart #uticadevils #keithjones
True Crime Psychology and Personality: Narcissism, Psychopathy, and the Minds of Dangerous Criminals
True Crime Personality and Psychology True Crime Psychology and Personality is a podcast that profiles criminal personalities, discusses personality disorders, and examines real life events from a scientifically informed perspective. Want more mental health content? Check out our other Podcasts: Mental Health // Demystified with Dr. Tracey Marks Healthy // Toxic Cluster B: A Look At Narcissism, Antisocial, Borderline, and Histrionic Disorders Here, Now, Together with Rou Reynolds Links for Dr. Grande Dr. Grande on YouTube Produced by Ars Longa Media Learn more at arslonga.media. Produced by: Christopher Breitigan. Executive Producer: Patrick C. Beeman, MD Legal Stuff The information presented in this podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not professional advice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On today's show, Rachel speaks to Flyers long time anthem singer & voice Lauren Hart. Lauren shares her musical style taste, memorable Flyers games, her approach to singing the anthem, stories about her father, Flyers broadcasting legend Gene Hart, and more.Follow the show on Twitter @LockedOnFlyers Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!BetOnline AGThere is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus.Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you'll get 15% off your next order.Rock AutoAmazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
On today's show, Rachel speaks to Flyers long time anthem singer & voice Lauren Hart. Lauren shares her musical style taste, memorable Flyers games, her approach to singing the anthem, stories about her father, Flyers broadcasting legend Gene Hart, and more. Follow the show on Twitter @LockedOnFlyers Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! BetOnline AG There is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. Built Bar Built Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you'll get 15% off your next order. Rock Auto Amazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Today we are joined by Jason Hernandez of Locked On Ducks to discuss that team's hot young prospects and future, Rachael Donner of Locked On Flyers plays part of her interview with Flyers national anthem singer Lauren Hart as she discusses her father, Hall of Fame broadcaster Gene Hart and we are joined by Josh Hyman, co-host of Locked On Blues to discuss David Backes' retirement, the Blues Winter Classic Jerseys and the latest rumors about Vladimir Tarasenko.All this and more on today's Locked On NHL Podcast with guest host Gil Martin. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Today we are joined by Jason Hernandez of Locked On Ducks to discuss that team's hot young prospects and future, Rachael Donner of Locked On Flyers plays part of her interview with Flyers national anthem singer Lauren Hart as she discusses her father, Hall of Fame broadcaster Gene Hart and we are joined by Josh Hyman, co-host of Locked On Blues to discuss David Backes' retirement, the Blues Winter Classic Jerseys and the latest rumors about Vladimir Tarasenko. All this and more on today's Locked On NHL Podcast with guest host Gil Martin. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Astral Projection Podcast by Astral Doorway | Astral Travel How To Guides & Out of Body Experiences
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This is part 4 which goes over the autopsy and the various testimonies of the people who examined the evidence during the Gene Hart trial.
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Part number 3 which examines the testimony of the counselors, camp personnel, officers, Sheriff and a couple OSBI agents in the case against Gene Hart.
In June of 1977, three girls were brutally assaulted and murdered at Camp Scott, a Girl Scout Camp located in Oklahoma. Even though they have found the killer and the case seemed to be closed, some feel that the girls never received true justice when Gene Hart died.
Since The Flyers are in the Playoffs, Matt decided to share an interview he did with the late, great, "Voice Of The Flyers," Gene Hart on April 10th, 1996 - The day before the last regular season Flyers game at the Spectrum. Gene chats about some of his favorite memories of that great building. See omnystudio.com/policies/listener for privacy information.
On this episode, Chris has a conversation with the great play-by-play broadcaster for the Philadelphia Flyers, Jim Jackson. Over the last 27 years, Jackson has been the voice of a generation of Flyers fans and has called some of the greatest moments in the franchise's storied history. In this interview, we will get Jackson's views on the Flyers before the stoppage and what we can expect from this Flyers team when they return to gameplay on August 2nd. Jackson, who also play-by-play, pre and post-game shows on radio for the Phillies, talks about baseball returning and possible struggles that may face not just the Phils but all of baseball. Later, Chris asks Jim about what it was like to be around Martin Brodeur just before he broke into the NHL and went on to become one of the greatest goaltenders in league history. Lastly, Jim talks about what it's been like to broadcast next to the likes of Gene Hart, Bill Clement, Gary Dornhoefer, Steve Coates, Keith Jones, and others during his near three-decade career in Philly. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app
On the morning of June 13th, 1977, at Camp Scott, in Mayes County, Oklahoma, the dead bodies of three young girl scouts, ages 8, 9, and 10, are discovered by a camp counselor. The girls had been raped and murdered hours earlier in the middle of the night. Who could've committed such a disgusting crime? Find out on a true crime, murder mystery edition of Timesuck. Check out Lynze and I's new horror podcast Scared to Death. Listen on Spotify, Stitcher, iTunes, Youtube, and more! Here's the iTunes link: https://apple.co/2MRMgai We're donating $4,000 to the Tim Tebow Foundation's Night to Shine. To find out more, go to https://www.timtebowfoundation.org/night-to-shine-host-information 2020 Toxic Thoughts Tour Standup dates: http://dancummins.tv Sacramento, CA Jan 23 - 25 Punch Line CLICK HERE for tix! Las Vegas, NV Jan 30 - Feb 2 Jimmy Kimmel's Comedy Club CLICK HERE for tix! Brooklyn, NY Feb 8 The Bell House CLICK HERE for tix! Washington DC Feb 9 The Improv CLICK HERE for tix! Huntington Beach Feb 14-16 The Rec Room CLICK HERE for tix! St Louis Feb 20-22 Helium CLICK HERE for tix! Listen to the best of my standup on Spotify! (for free!) https://spoti.fi/2Dyy41d Watch the Suck on YouTube: https://youtu.be/noJhcvt2ocM Merch - https://badmagicmerch.com/ Want to try out Discord!?! https://discord.gg/tqzH89v Want to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Here it is: https://www.facebook.com/groups/cultofthecurious/ For all merch related questions: https://badmagicmerch.com/pages/contact Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcast Wanna become a Space Lizard? We're over 6000 strong! Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcast Sign up through Patreon and for $5 a month you get to listen to the Secret Suck, which will drop Thursdays at Noon, PST. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. You get to vote on two Monday topics each month via the app. And you get the download link for my new comedy album, Feel the Heat. Check the Patreon posts to find out how to download the new album and take advantage of other benefits.
Hi!We are back from our two week hiatus! Also we have a new format. We decided collectively that we wanted to focus on one story (true crime, paranormal, conspiracy ect) a week. Each week one of us is going to report our story and other two will react with their colorful commentary. This week Javi is going talk about the girls scout murders of Oklahoma. You will hear about gruesome slayings of young girls at a sleepover camp and also about the trial of the police number one suspect Gene Hart. Our Banter this week include October Halloween plans and AHS 1984. Also this month we are doing something special. Every week we will post two episodes , our normal episode and bonus creepy pasta. Remember you can email us your story suggestions or hexes at frankensquadpod@gmail.com or message us on insta @frankensquad.pod . Stay spooky and be kind.
Lauren Hart thinks she has sung the Star Spangled Banner 1,000 times. Easily. It started as something neat to try at a Flyers game. Decades later and she's still performing it just as gracefully as the last time. Lauren explains why the song is so difficult to sing, how her father (the late Flyers broadcaster Gene Hart) influenced how she performs it, why it was so hard doing a duet version of "God Bless America" with the late Kate Smith, if she is scared of Gritty (the Flyers' new mascot) and why she is getting political with her upcoming new album "American Woman." Oh, and what about Fergie's version of the Star Spangled Banner?
This is Unsolved Mysteries of the World Season One Episode Twelve, The Girl Scout MurdersUnder starry skies, roasting marshmellows, laughing, singing, and telling tales of unspeakable horrors in the dark – its all part of the camp experience.But only one night into camp at Camp Scott in Locust Grove Oklahoma, the nightmares of the dark turned into reality.On the hot, sticky morning of June 13, 1977, campers were awakened by the horrified screams of a counselor who discovered the bloodied bodies of three children. The girls — Lori Lee Farmer, 8, of Tulsa; Michelle Guse, 9, of Broken Arrow; and Doris Denise Milner, 10, of Tulsa — had been abducted from their tents in the night and murdered. Their small bodies were found bloodied, bound and stuffed inside their sleeping bags 140 yards from their tent on the western edge of the camp.The horrific scene would later inspire movies like 1980s Friday the 13th and Sleepaway Camp and continually haunt the community.The camp closed the next day and never reopened. Its ghostly shells of cabins, washrooms, and play structures still remain, whispering the haunting memory of a horrific past.Camp across America would forever be changed as no one was everq convicted of the crimes.The story begins three months before the fateful start to summer camp with an ominous note that suggests the crimes were planned and premeditated.Michelle Hoffman, who was an aide at the June 1977 camp session, was at Camp Scott for a special Girl Scout cadet weekend in April. While there someone got into her tent when they were away on a training session.."Our bags had been scattered all over the tent and some outside," she says. A box of donuts Michelle had brought from home had been emptied and among the donut crumbs she found a note on a small steno notepad. The first couple of pages were written Kill, Kill, Kill over and over again. Then on one page “We're on a mission to kill three girls”The note was disregarded as a prank by other girls at the camp and dismissed.On the first day of Camp in June, the skies turned violent and raging thunderstorm echoed above. Campers huddled in their tents. The tents provided adequate shelter and were about 12-by-14 feet, with canvas sides that could be rolled up, sat on wooden platforms and held four cots for sleeping.Sharing tent #8 in the Kiowa section of girl scout campers were Lori Lee Farmer, 8, Doris Denise Milner, 10, and Michelle Heather Guse, 9.Sometime during the night, all three were sexually assaulted, bludgeoned and strangled to death, then stuffed into their sleeping bags and dumped only 140 metres away on a trail near the camp's showers.The gruesome discovery was made by Camp Councillor Carla Wilhite at 6am as she made her way to the showers. Her discovery promptly caused much chaos and the entire Camp was in a state of shock. Children were not told of the incident, and were quickly hushed, as chartered buses took them home only after one night at Summer Camp. Not chancing any other incidents, the entire camp was evacuated at 10am as police searched for evidence and a suspect.After nearly 50 years of hosting Girl Scout's, the camp closed and never reopened.Two of the girls were discovered inside their sleeping bags, while a third was laid over top of the others. She was so badly beaten, that she was nearly unrecognizable.The crime had occurred inside tent #8 just feet away from other tents, including the camp councillor's very own. No one was awoken and no one reported anything out of the ordinary.On June 14th, the entire wooded platform of the tent was airlifted to a crime lab. The entire floor was covered in blood. The perpetrators tried to wipe up the blood using towels and matresses and in doing so left a shoe print inside the tent on the floor. Outside of the tent, law enforcement discover a totally different shoe print suggesting that perhaps two or more people may have been involved.The evidence somehow finds its way to the press outraging those in charge of the investigation. A large manhunt begins and a man of no fixed address is found sleeping in his car just seven miles north of the camp. Police arrest him, take him in for questioning, but later release him as they believe he had nothing to do with the incident.A red flashlight with a piece of newspaper inside it, a roll of duct tape, and a nylon rope were then found close to the bodies and considered the property of whomever did this horrible deed. They were catalogued and stored as evidence. Finger prints are also lifted from the small bodies along with a single hair, that was determined to be from a Native American. Along side the tent were a pair of women's glasses and glass case that belonged to one of the campers. Authorities believed they were part of the evidence and were removed and tagged.Meanwhile, a group of highly trained sniffer dogs nicknamed The Wonder Dogs from Pennsylvania were on site. They indicated the perpetrators must have walked past or near the camp councillors tent first, and then toward tent #8. The dogs made their way into the woods and lost scent.Investigators were also focusing on the children and camp staff. Counselors and some of the scouts later told of eerie happenings during the night. There were strange noises — like a frog or a bullhorn — and one camper was sure she heard a scream and cries. Another would recall that she saw a shadowy figure shine a flashlight into her tent.Men working at the camp were interviewed and released. Investigators then turn their attention to a nearby ranch where the owner reported a robbery just days prior. Jack Schroff, who owned the ranch was questioned and even took a polygraph test to which he passed. A newspaper article ran the story, and by the way it was written, it appeared as if Schroff was the guilty party. He received death threats and harassing phone calls and ended up in the hospital under mental distress.Sheriff Pete Weaver announces he had found the murder weapon and has three solid prints on a crowbar. The district attorney on the case denies the evidence was found and the media begins another sensationalistic story.The tracking dogs follow scent to a pond near the Schroff Ranch and the pond is drug but nothing is found. There is rumour now that a local medicine man has put a curse on the investigation and on the tracking dogs and said they will soon die. One died of heat stroke later that day, while another inexplicably dashed out into the road and was stuck by a vehicle, killing the K9.The tracking dog's owner teases the press by saying they found solid evidence and there will be a break in the case very soon. Sheriff Weaver says they have a suspect in mind, while the district attorney suggests they have three suspects with a mountain of evidence but that the murder weapon had indeed, not been found. He also reveals that a two photographs of three women had been found and is of interest. One source says the photograph was located near the children's bodies while another said it was found in a cave, where it appeared someone was living.The district attorney frustrated with the reporting and the rumours of in fighting amongst investigators initiates a media blackout.The photographs turn out to be a valuable clue, as state crime laboratories determine the photos were developed by one Gene Leroy Hart, while he was incarcerated and working the photo lab of Granite Reformatory.A man named Gene Hart was said to be near Camp Scott. Authorities know of Gene Leroy Hart as he was an escaped convict. Gene Leroy Hart had been at large since 1973 after escaping from the Mayes County Jail. He had been convicted of kidnapping and raping two pregnant women as well as four counts of first degree burglary. During his confession of the abduction and rape investigators learned he had preplanned the crime months in advance and had no plans on bringing the women, whom he took deep into the woods out alive. While one of the women was in the trunk of his car he tried on her eye glasses to see if the prescription or look fit him. For some unknown reason, however, Hart abandoned the women by a small pond. The same pond the K9 sniffer dogs had hit on. Hart was raised about a mile from Camp Scott and knew the area well.The man hunt for Gene Leroy Hart was on and over 200 law enforcement officials along with over 400 volunteers joined in. The scene, again was utter chaos. Several of the volunteers brought firearms, while others were so intoxicated they could not function. Others were arrested for drug violations and public relations were a nightmare. Learning that Gene Hart was the prime suspect, and that he was a Native American, the American Indian Movement, AIM, stormed into the search to monitor the situation as they believed there was racial profiling.The FBI is dispatched help with the investigation. Meanwhile, tensions are high between Native Americans and law enforcement. Gene Hart's mother proclaims that law enforcement planted evidence against her son because they have no suspect and Sheriff Weaver is corrupt and is just trying to pin it on someone.Someone matching Gene Hart's description is seen in the vicinity of Camp Scott and K9 tracking dogs are dispatched. At first, they pick up the trail, but soon loose it. Meanwhile, the autopsies are completed and another unusual twist in the case is revealed. The three fingerprints found on the body were not fingerprints at all. Authorities refuse to answer further questions about the fingerprints. They also state that the children were not raped, however, later this is determined misinformation. They also indicate that all possible evidence from Camp Scott has been taken and that the camp will be monitored by a private security firm.Girl Scouts across the country raise money and a $15,000 reward is offered for the capture of the person responsible for the murders.Meanwhile back at Camp Scott, private security notices someone in the bush and they immediately go to investigate. Upon returning empty handed they find a pair of wet shoes and socks in a bag on the steps of the camp director's office. Authorities determine these were Denis Milner's.A cave near Camp Scott is investigated and authorities find several pieces of evidence including a note written on the wall stating “77-6-17. The killer was here. Bye Bye fools.”Two of the families, now frustrated by the investigation and the camp itself file a $3M civil action against the camp. A group known as Drug Awareness offers up a $5000 reward for the capture of Gene Hart. Tensions are high and the entire state is on edge. The Governor amps up spending and even the national guard are called in to help find Hart.A tip then comes in that Hart is staying with a Medicine Man named Sam Pigeon in a cabin just 45 miles from Camp Scott. Hart is arrested without incident but authorities note one strange item on Hart's face. Hanging loosely on his nose, a pair of women's glasses.On March 19th 1977 the trial began During this time, tensions rose high among the Cherokee natives and a legal fund was set up to help the defence. There were protests and near rioting from all sides but ultimately, the prosecution failed to convince the jury that Gene Hart was the murderer. He was acquitted of all charges and according to Oklahoma State Law, the trial transcripts and witness testimony were all destroyed. No physical record of the trial now exists.But prosecutors still remain steadfast that they had their man.The Jury ultimately had to decide Gene Hart's fate but also raised some interesting, if not frightening details.As a convicted rapist and jail escapee, Hart still had 305 years of his 308-year sentence left to serve in the Oklahoma State Penitentiary and never saw freedom again. On June 4, 1979, he collapsed and died after about an hour of lifting weights and jogging in the prison exercise yard.The Oklahama State Bureau of Investigation still maintains they had their man, but are not commenting on the case any further because it is still an open case.In 1989 the FBI connected Hart to the murders using Genetic Testing.In 2008, still determined that Gene Hart was the perpetrator, they conducted DNA testing which fingered Hart as three out of five items tested matched, but the test was ultimately deemed inconclusive because of the age of the samples.Officials said they will attempt to retrieve sperm evidence from other articles in storage for further testing."I feel fairly conclusively that Hart was involved, “Says Lori Lee's father Dr. Farmer. “The only question in my mind is whether he was the only person involved,"And when we look back at the original piece of evidence, the one discarded as a prank, the steno notepad found in the donut box months prior to the murder it does state “We're on a mission to kill three girls”We're. Plural. Three girls were murdered.Even if Gene Hart was one of the perpetrators, there still may be others involved and like all unsolved cases, someone, somewhere knows something. And that person should, after all these years, simply come forward to allow for a conclusion to a sad story. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Every Philly sports fan's favorite Anthem singer, Lauren Hart, makes her first-ever visit to the Philly Pressbox Radio Roundtable. Lauren talks with Bill Furman and Jim 'Chet' Chesko about her singing career, her love of the Flyers, her dad (the late, great Gene Hart) and much more. Also on the show, hear Chet's interview with Phillies play-by-play announcer Tom McCarthy, previewing the Phils' 2017 season. In addition, there's NCAA hoops talk, another fun Random Q2 segment and more!