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Brodes hosted on WIP after the Eagles Clinched the NFC East against the Commanders!!

In this episode of Keeping Up with the Commanders, host Mason Kinnahan recaps Washington's 29-18 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles. Washington was in it for the first half, but Mariota's third quarter injury ended what could've been a big upset for the Commanders. Mason gives his thoughts and analysis on what's next amid a disappointing season. SocialsTwitter: twitter.com/mason_kinnahanTwitch: twitch.tv/thesportslionTikTok: @thesportslionAnchor and Spotify: https://anchor.fm/kuwtcommanders

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Brodes hosted on WIP Tuesday night saying the REAL Eagles showed up in win over Raiders!

In the final hour of The Chris Russell Show, The Rooster dives into the evolving world of football. Chris breaks down the frenzy of college quarterbacks hitting the transfer portal and what it means for players and programs alike. He then discusses Marcus Mariota's sizable contract demands and how they could affect the Commanders' decisions regarding Jayden Daniels' health and future. The hour closes with Missouri head coach Eli Drinkwitz speaking on the “wild west” of the transfer portal, NIL deals, and the culture shifts sweeping college football, sparking a lively debate between Rooster and A-MAC. It's a full hour of insight, strategy, and spirited commentary on the state of the game.

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Houston Texans blow out the Arizona Cardinals, the Washington Commanders go on the road and beat the New York Giants, and the New Orleans Saints beat the Carolina Panthers in a comeback win and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Jags beat Jets2:57 Texans beat Cardinals6:49 - Commanders beat Giants11:38 - Saints beat Panthers13:05 - Q & Aaaayyyyyy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

12.15.25 Hour 4 1:00- We get into who we believe made the decision to shut down Jayden Daniels for the 2025 season. 22:40- We take your calls on who shut down Daniels and also get into Mariota's 2025 season.

In this week's episode of Keeping Up With The Commanders, host Mason Kinnahan recaps Washington's 29-21 win over the Giants. Mariota and the offense had success, and the defense forced turnovers, but everything still feels disappointing after a horrendous season so far. SocialsTwitter: twitter.com/mason_kinnahanTwitch: twitch.tv/thesportslionTikTok: @thesportslionAnchor and Spotify: https://anchor.fm/kuwtcommanders

JMToWin from One Week Season walks us through the Week 15 DFS slate from a GPP perspective, shares his top plays at each position, and then builds a DraftKings lineup using some of his favorite building blocks. In the second half, ShipMyMoney from Run The Sims shares sneaky stacks for Week 15 tournaments and spots with input volatility.

Chris Russell dives into the fallout after Jayden Daniels is ruled out this weekend, taking audience calls and reactions on what his absence means for the Commanders. The Rooster analyzes whether Marcus Mariota allows a more versatile gameplan because of JD's injury and why Daniels' injury history must be factored in when planning the offense. We also touch on Chris' reaction to the latest story in MLB trades.

Dan Quinn rules Jayden Daniels out for Sunday after the rookie aggravated his left elbow injury, turning to Marcus Mariota as the starter against the Giants. With doctors wanting to monitor the soreness despite no structural damage, re-evaluation is set for next week. Doc Walker breaks down why he believes this was an “executive decision” made above the coaching level and what it means for the Commanders moving forward.

Stoops. Kiffin. Mariota? CFP. NFL Bears vs. Packers. Stick a fork in the Steelers.

Sunday night gave us a roller coaster and a half! The Commanders went all in for the win, but came up one point short in OT. Mariota did well, McLaurin strutted back onto the field, and we even had a wild two-point attempt that almost made us heroes. In the end, the Broncos spoiled the party, but hey, we had some laughs and a lot of heart. Drop your thoughts below on our almost miracle finish! Grab a drink, and lets talk about how well the team did and how next year is our year.

It still doesn't make much sense.

Hour 3 of BMitch & Finlay features callers giving their thoughts from the Commanders loss and the guys reacting to Cris Collinsworth's pronunciation of Marcus Mariota.

Munaf Manji, Dave Essler and Mackenzie Rivers talk NFL contests for week 13. The hosts break down Week 13 NFL contests with Survivor strategy and ATS picks, starting with a recap of Week 12 where 39 Survivor entries were eliminated, mostly on the Raiders, leaving 900 entries worth about $20.8k each in Circa and all six Grandissimo entries still alive worth $1.15M each. Mackenzie gives his pick: Broncos −6 vs Washington, citing Denver's defense, Washington's weak home field, Mariota likely starting, and the strength of road favorites off a bye. Munaf agrees, noting Denver's scoring consistency and Washington's defensive issues. Dave cautions that if Daniels plays he'd lean Washington but otherwise sides with Denver. Dave's pick is Cowboys over Chiefs on Thanksgiving, arguing KC is not fully right, Dallas proved something with their comeback, and Mahomes' team may not handle adversity as well as past years. Mackenzie likes Dallas with the points and cites a 6–25 trend for non-home Thursday teams off Sunday OT. Munaf praises Dallas' defensive second half vs Philly and KC's regression in close games. Munaf's pick is Rams −10.5 at Carolina, expecting a two-TD win based on Carolina's poor performances vs winning teams, Rams' offensive rhythm, Stafford's MVP-level play, and LAR's defense generating turnovers. Dave and Mack agree Carolina is weak and McVay is trustworthy as a road favorite. They then discuss Bengals vs Ravens: Burrow returns, Higgins out, Ravens inconsistent, Bengals defense weak, possible Derrick Henry heavy game, and lean Bengals +7 or under. Survivor strategy: Circa splits Thanksgiving as 13A and Sunday as 13B; big favorites include Ravens, Eagles, Rams, Jags, Seahawks, Chargers. Dave prefers Eagles as safest pick; Munaf agrees. Mack and Dan's live Survivor entries are using Eagles for 13A and Chargers for 13B but Mack is nervous about both sides. They warn against Jacksonville due to Tennessee's recent covers and Cam Ward improving. They close with holiday notes, thanking listeners, emphasizing family time, and joking about tryptophan and naps. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of the Gameplan, Head Coach Dan Quinn sits down with hosts Bryan Colbert Jr. and Logan Paulsen to preview this Week 10 Detroit Lions vs. Washington Commanders matchup. Then, he and Paulsen hit the film study for a breakdown of Mariota highlights. To conclude the show, they countdown to kickoff and discuss the messaging to the team going into this matchup.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Munaf Manji and SleepyJ talk NFL player props for week 10. Munaf Manji and Sleepy J host the NFL Week 10 Props edition of RJ Bell's Dream Preview, opening with the early Berlin matchup between the Colts and Falcons. Sleepy starts by betting Daniel Jones under 243.5 passing yards, citing Atlanta's top-ranked pass defense and expectation of a run-heavy, clock-chewing game featuring Jonathan Taylor. Munaf agrees, benches Jones in fantasy, and counters with Baker Mayfield over 246.5 passing yards versus New England, arguing the Patriots' rush D is elite but their secondary vulnerable. Sleepy concurs, noting Tampa's bye week prep and New England's difficulty stopping air attacks. Moving to rushing props, Sleepy doubles up: Daniel Jones over 15.5 and Josh Allen over 26.5 rushing yards, both facing heavy blitz teams (Falcons, Dolphins) that force quarterbacks to scramble. Munaf supports the logic and shifts to Christian McCaffrey over 50.5 receiving yards against the Rams, highlighting his consistent over trend, matchup history, and integral passing role. Sleepy backs the pick, expecting San Francisco to trail and throw often. On receivers, Sleepy picks Rome Odunze over 3.5 receptions (-145), predicting a “squeaky wheel” response after Odunze's father publicly complained about his lack of targets; he expects a bounce-back game against the Giants' poor secondary. Munaf echoes that, expecting early targets and likely over by halftime. He then takes Amon-Ra St. Brown over 80.5 receiving yards vs. Washington, noting Detroit's offensive rebound spot, his four straight 86+ yard games, and heavy target share. Sleepy agrees, warning “never fade Amon-Ra,” then adds Zach Ertz over 34.5 receiving yards for the injury-depleted Commanders, expecting Mariota's tight end usage. Munaf approves and adds Dalton Schultz over 34.5 receiving yards vs. Jacksonville, pointing out the Jaguars' vulnerability to tight ends and Davis Mills' reliance on Schultz. Touchdown section: Munaf picks Rome Odunze (+155), Jackson Dart (+170), and Aaron Jones (+105), forecasting scoring from dynamic playmakers and dump-off opportunities. Sleepy goes contrarian, taking longshot Jaguars tight ends Johnny Munt (+850) and Alan Trammell (+800) due to injuries thinning Jacksonville's depth. Their agreed best bet: Marvin Harrison Jr. over 55.5 receiving yards vs. Seattle, backed by Brissett's deep passing confidence, expected trailing script, and Harrison's big-play potential (96 yards last week). Sleepy endorses, citing Brissett's freedom to air it out and Harrison's earlier 66-yard game vs. Seattle. The show closes with promos: use coupon “SWEEP50” at Pregame.com for $50 off NFL/CFB season packages and Sleepy's $299 college basketball package. Both hosts expect profits and emphasize their prop track record, wrapping with optimism for Week 10 and anticipation for Week 11's follow-up show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Chiefs started out slow but ended hot with the offense torching and the defense suffocating Mariota and company.

Commanders walk into Arrowhead and walk out smoked, 28-7. Mahomes turned the field into his personal playground while our defense played tourist. Jayden's hamstring kept him sidelined, Mariota tried to keep the train on the tracks, but the Chiefs defense had us in traffic all night.Terry McLaurin did suit up — three clutch grabs and our only touchdown, because of course he did. The man's allergic to quitting. Outside of that? The offense was flatter than a day-old Dr Pepper, and the play-calling looked like it was drawn on a napkin mid-flight.We're breaking it down — the highs (Terry), the lows (everything else), and the pure pain that comes with being a Commanders fan. Grab a drink, grab your coping snacks, and join us for Command This! Live — Misery in Missouri Edition.

Lynnell evaluates Marcus Mariota's performance in the Commanders' Monday Night Football loss to the Chiefs, giving him a B to B+ grade for his effort. While Mariota managed the game well, Lynnell challenges him to sharpen his accuracy and decision-making to help the Commanders sustain drives and finish possessions more effectively.

Mackenzie Rivers and Dan Rivera talk all things NFL Survivor contest. Mackenzie Rivers and Dan Rivera – NFL Week 8 Survivor Talk Mackenzie and Dan survived Week 7 with the Chiefs and eye Week 8's board. The Colts, now 14.5-point favorites over the Titans, are their top Survivor pick. Titans fired their coach, briefly rallied, but collapsed; Colts keep rolling with an elite offense. Mackenzie urges optimism with caution—weak early schedule, shaky secondary. Dan agrees: they've beaten bad teams, but execution and coaching have turned Daniel Jones into a top-12 QB caliber player. True tests come soon vs. Jags, Texans, Chiefs, Seattle, and San Francisco. Still, Indy looks like the AFC's second-best team behind Kansas City. Mackenzie cites non-turnover EPA metrics: Colts' offense ranks No. 1, defense 21st; Chiefs No. 4 offense, No. 9 defense; Cowboys surprisingly No. 2 offense despite awful defense. Chiefs remain favorites by pedigree more than dominance. Dak Prescott (20-1) could sneak into MVP talks if Dallas stays hot. Balanced teams like Rams (1st defense, 7th offense), Seahawks, and Lions round out the top 10. Mackenzie says the Colts' scoring power makes them legit contenders if they sustain efficiency. On Chiefs-Commanders, Dan warns: don't burn Kansas City now—you'll need them for Thanksgiving week. Mariota can replicate 85-90% of Daniels's offense; Chiefs should win, but beware overconfidence. Mackenzie calls it a one-score game—Mariota's capable, market overreacted to QB switch. Next tier: Falcons (-7.5) vs. Dolphins—Dan expects Bijan and London to thrive; Dolphins fading fast. Mackenzie agrees: Atlanta safe for parlays, but Colts remain primary. Eagles-Giants? Dan's cautious; health and effort issues make Philly unpredictable. Bills-Panthers? Both advise a pass—Buffalo's defense thin, Allen regressing. Patriots-Browns? Another pass; New England solid but inconsistent. Their Survivor track record: Steelers, Ravens, Bills, Texans, Lions, Packers, Chiefs—strong slate, no major regrets. They plan to ride Colts this week, holding Patriots, Niners, Broncos, Eagles, Bucs, Seahawks, and Rams for later. Bengals-Jets earns debate: Dan sees Cincy improving, Jets lifeless without stars; Mackenzie warns both are bad—avoid betting terrible teams. Final thoughts: under on combined wins for Raiders, Titans, Jets—about 4.5 total. Mackenzie closes: Colts are the official Survivor pick; strong offense, manageable risk. Promo code SAC20 for $20 off at Pregame.com—better value than sweating the Jets. Week 8 verdict: Colts to survive and advance. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Munaf Manji, Mackenzie Rivers and Dave Essler discuss NFL Week 8 contest selections. Munaf Manji hosts the NFL Week 8 Contest Podcast on RJ Bell's Dream Preview with Mackenzie Rivers and Dave Essler, discussing ATS and Survivor contest picks. Munaf opens by reviewing Week 7 results: 204 Circus Survivor entries were eliminated, leaving 4,214 alive, and the top-five Circa Millions picks went 4-1. Mackenzie opens with his ATS pick, taking the Commanders +12.5 versus the Chiefs, citing overreaction to quarterback changes and favorable historical data for double-digit underdogs after losing as road favorites. Munaf agrees, saying Mariota can manage the game if turnovers are limited, while Dave supports them, noting key receivers' returns and the Chiefs' tough schedule ahead. Dave's pick is the Patriots -7 versus the Browns, backing New England's home advantage and Drake Maye's strong play since Week 1; he cites Cleveland's poor road record and rookie QB Dylan Gabriel's first hostile start. Munaf expands that the Browns are 1-11 straight up and 2-10 ATS on the road, losing by double digits frequently, while Mackenzie notes past “home-after-road-trip” data is now neutral. Munaf's pick is the 49ers +1.5 at Houston, calling it a “wrong team favored” game, criticizing the Texans' O-line, injury issues (notably Nico Collins), and inconsistency. Mackenzie admits concern about San Francisco's defense post-Bosa but likes their matchup versus Houston's weak front, and Dave agrees, joining the 49ers side. They promote Pregame.com contests, including Beat Dave Esler NBA and discounts using codes “touchdown20” for football access and “NBA75” for Mackenzie's NBA package. Transitioning to Survivor strategy, Munaf reviews Week 8's large favorites: Patriots, Bills, Eagles, Bengals, Falcons, Ravens, Colts (-14), and Chiefs (-12.5). Dave recommends Dallas as a gutsy Survivor pick, citing Denver's vulnerable defense and Dallas's offensive weapons, while acknowledging risks. Munaf supports that approach, also suggesting the 49ers and Falcons as alternate Survivor plays, emphasizing the need for strategic diversification instead of burning elite teams early. Mackenzie jokes that he never picks underdogs in Survivor but recalls Fezzik's accidental underdog win that clinched a contest. He mentions saving the Colts for Week 8, the largest favorite, while Dave argues underdogs can be valuable if used selectively. Munaf concludes that multiple entries allow experimentation with smaller favorites and strategic conservation of power teams for later weeks, reinforcing the depth of Survivor planning discussed in Mack and Dan's dedicated Survivor Pod. The episode ends with camaraderie among the hosts—Mackenzie, Dave, and Munaf—signing off with humor about dinner and their usual “good luck with your bets” closing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Marcus Mariota will start for the Commanders in place of Jaden Daniels. We talk the effect that has on Mondays game before discussing the NFL fall meetings and the changes being suggested.

With Daniels' OUT in KC, do you have any faith in them pulling off the upset with Mariota in at QB?

10.22.25 Hour 1 1:00- Jayden Daniels has already been ruled OUT vs Kansas City this Monday night. 21:30- With Daniels' OUT in KC, do you have any faith in them pulling off the upset with Mariota in at QB?

AWadd brings us into The Richmond Commander on the show next as we break down what Washington's chances are Monday night in Kansas City and what the Commanders can do to win. NFL Hits on the show next as we give out our 1 star, 2 star, 3 star, and dud games out of the week eight slate, Stub and Jeremy highlight two games that may be this week's Certified NFL game of the week. CowanGates Hokies Update with Bill Roth on the show next as we talk all things Virginia Tech athletics as the Hokies get ready to take on Cal this weekend. Crosstalk with Michael Phillips on the show next for a Commanders Crosstalk as we break down MNF as Washington hopes to head to Kansas City and get a dub with Mariota.

Disappointing loss against the Atlanta Falcons this week. The Commanders were dealing with slew of injuries but stayed competitive on offense. The defense, however, just got worked. This week we discuss the game, Mariota's performance, and what Dan Quinn should do next about the defense._____________________________Intro & Outro: "Fast Life" (Shut Your Face Theme Song) by SanjayCCheck out his YouTube channel: youtube.com/sanjayc

In this episode, former Falcons two-time Pro Bowl fullback, Ovie Mughelli joins to share his insight from the A on the Falcons.  How dynamic is Bijan Robinson?  What Can we expect from Michael Penix Jr or will we see Kirk Cousins?  Which Commanders QB will suit up - Jayden Daniels or Marcus Mariota?  What's the status of Terry McClaurin's quad? All of this and MORE on this episode!  Thanks for listening. Please like, subscribe, or leave a comment if you appreciate the content. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Randy and Abe break down the Falcons keys to the game Sunday

In hour 2 Randy and Abe bring you an NFL No Huddle headed in to week 4, the guys make their picks against the spread, and in the Backpage: Has Russ tarnished his legacy, and do NFL refs have thicker skin than MLB Umpires?

(1) Memphis Chic-Fil-A continued discussion then Impressive weekend slate in the NFL. Mariota and the Commanders. Raiders (2) Parth Upadhyaya in-studio on Penny loving his roster & comp to older teams (3) Bama vs. UGA this weekend & how will Memphis fare against FAU?

The guys hit the the daily download and recap the Seattle win over the listless offensively Arizona Cardinals. No matter the QB, Rah says prep will be similar. And Marcus Mariota is named a team captain for Sunday's game.

In Behind Enemy Lines, the guys talk to Commanders ESPN reporter John Keim on what Mariota brings on Sunday, how this offense will be affected by injuries, and the lack of turnovers from this defense.

Marcus Mariota looked real good against the Raiders, should the Commanders hold that thought while measuring Daniels' health vs ATL?

9.24.25 Hour 2 *Short Show Due To Nats-Braves* 1:00- Nats- Andrew Golden, NFL- PJ Glasser, Commanders- Tom Schad 18:50- Marcus Mariota looked real good against the Raiders, should the Commanders hold that thought while measuring Daniels' health vs ATL?

In this episode, former Falcons two-time Pro Bowl fullback, Ovie Mughelli joins to share his insight from the A on the Falcons.  How dynamic is Bijan Robinson?  What Can we expect from Michael Penix Jr or will we see Kirk Cousins?  Which Commanders QB will suit up - Jayden Daniels or Marcus Mariota?  What's the status of Terry McClaurin's quad? All of this and MORE on this episode!  Thanks for listening. Please like, subscribe, or leave a comment if you appreciate the content. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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9.23.25, Kevin Sheehan asks callers if Marcus Mariota's level of play should impact Jayden Daniels' return to the field timeline.

Andy recaps the Commanders getting back on track with their beatdown of the Raiders, and the excellent performance of Marcus Mariota. (18:39) CBS nailed the 50th anniversary show with the return of Brent Musberger. (39:07) Daron Payne shows flashes of Mr. T. (49:26) More recap of the Commanders victory. To hear the whole show, tune in live from 9:00 AM - 11:00 AM Monday-Friday. For more sports coverage, download the ESPN630 AM app, visit https://www.sportscapitoldc.com. To join the conversation, check us out on twitter @ESPN630DC and @andypollin1See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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JP Finlay and Mitch Tischler join you from Northwest Stadium with instant reaction from the Washington Commanders' Week 3 win over the Las Vegas Raiders. The guys discuss Marcus Mariota's performance, the success on special teams and the stout pass rush. The episode concludes with 100 chips and game balls and goats. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Tobi and BMitch debate how confident they would be with Washington backup Marcus Mariota leading the offense on Sunday.

Hour 1 Breaking: Marcus Mariota will start this weekend against the Raiders. We discuss this here. With Marcus Mariota making the start this weekend, how confident do you feel?

9.15.25 Hour 3 1:00- Nats- Charlie Slowes, NFL- Frank Schwab, Commanders- Kevin Sheehan 19:00- Since Daniels' has a sprained knee, do you think the Commanders are better off with a healthy Marcus Mariota?

Since Daniels' has a sprained knee, do you think the Commanders are better off with a healthy Marcus Mariota?

(1) "Respect Burgers" for Fangio, Daniel Jones, Crawford tops Canelo (2) Jayden Daniels out... Here we go Mariota??? (3) JJ McCarthy is out and Minnesota looks bad. Dolphins look bad too.