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In the Victorian era, mourning wasn't just an emotion—it was a lifestyle. Strict rules dictated everything from what you wore to how long you could grieve, and death itself became a booming industry. From black-bordered stationery to post-mortem photography, the Victorians found ways to keep the dead close, even weaving their hair into intricate jewelry. But mourning wasn't just about remembrance—it was a reflection of deep-seated fears, societal expectations, and, in some cases, pure superstition.In this episode, I'm joined by Al, a US-based collector who specializes in Victorian mourning artifacts. Together, we explore the eerie beauty of these relics, the paranoia of being buried alive, and the fascinating ways people tried to reach beyond the grave.A HUGE thanks to Al for taking the time to have a chat. Follow her here:INSTAGRAM: @al_curioTIKTOK: @al_curioIf you'd like to hear more about collecting the strange and the unusual you should check out my chat with Nick Bowman, the episode is called Collector of the Macabre. You can listen here.Got an Idea for the Podcast?I'd love to hear from you! If there's a topic you'd like me to explore or someone you think would make a great guest, flick me a message.INSTAGRAM: @thestickybeakpodcastTIKTOK: @thestickybeakpodcastFACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/listen.with.mon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Why should life insurance sales be a long, complicated process? What if agents could close deals faster, more efficiently, and still deliver top-quality service? Imagine a world where the journey from initial intake to underwriting orders takes minutes, not days. It sounds almost too good to be true… In this episode, we sit down with Hillard Milner, co-founder of Optifino, and the Xcela team—Angus Dunn, Xuejun Tao, and Nick Bowman—to explore their innovative approach to life insurance technology. We discuss how Optifino and Xcela use AI to enhance agent and client experiences, streamline processes, and address industry challenges. The conversation also delves into evolving market strategies, the importance of understanding client needs, and the industry's historical challenges with innovation. Xcela and Optifino's commitment to trust and adaptability shines through as they reshape the future of life insurance. Tune in to learn more about the future of life insurance and how technology is transforming the industry. Don't forget to subscribe for more insights! Key Insights: The role of technology in modernizing the life insurance industry. Xcela's mission to enhance life insurance sales and distribution Strategies for market penetration and adapting to customer needs Importance of building relationships and trust with clients Overcoming legacy issues and regulatory challenges in the life insurance sector. Challenges of technology adoption in the insurance sector Dual approach to engaging both agents and management in sales Navigating lengthy sales cycles typical in the insurance industry The transformative potential of AI and the need for flexibility in tech solutions Commitment to data security and compliance in building client trust Featured Conversations: Hilliard Milner, Optifino [00:00:39] - The role of the platform [00:01:41] - Empowering agents [00:03:47] - User interface for agents [00:05:05] - Lead generation challenges [00:08:38] - Importance of holistic solutions [00:11:46] - Legacy issues in insurance [00:13:32] - Engaging carriers [00:20:38] - Learning and growth as a founder [00:21:46] - First key hire [00:23:22] - Future vision for the company [00:25:22] - Trends in life insurance market Notable quote: “My co-founder has a vast amount of experience in life insurance. He built a massive brokerage that has sold over $20 billion of life insurance. We specialize in complicated cases because we have the subject matter experts and our technology adds massive value.” Hilliard Milner Angus Dunn, Nick Bowman & Xuejun Tao, Accela [00:02:39] - Overview of Xcela's mission [00:03:03] - Collaborative development story [00:06:43] - Building a flexible tech stack [00:09:09] - Agent's perspective on technology [00:13:18] - Challenges in life insurance innovation [00:20:30] - Dual approach to distribution [00:24:16] - Learning from the insurance industry [00:26:11] - Team dynamics and expertise [00:27:50] - Navigating long sales cycles Notable Quote: "I really don't like to build products and we want to sell the product first, then you build the product. The reason is because if you can sell it, you can build it. When you build a product, that means that you already have a market." - Angus Dunn Notable Quote: “Now everything is possible, and how we actually make things happen is by taking a new approach to apply AI, especially to help the specific industry.”- Xuejun Tao Notable Quote: “As a young person in the industry who plans on being in the industry for a very long time and really loves this industry, I cannot wait for someone else to do this. I have to bring this change.”- Nick Bowman Key Themes: Xcela's and Optifino's Mission and Vision Streamlining life insurance with AI The genesis of Xcela and Optifino: A shared vision of applying AI to the insurance industry Creating Value Beyond Efficiency Measuring AI's impact The importance of a flexible tech stack that can adapt to future AI advancements Understanding the Agent's Perspective Empowering independent agents Go-to-market strategy Building Relationships and Trust Establishing rapport with clients Customizable solutions that enhance efficiency and effectiveness Navigating Industry Challenges Bridging the tech gap for independent agents Market-driven product development The Future of Optifino and Xcela and the Insurance Industry Anticipating industry changes and commitment to flexibility Evolving strategies in distribution Building Trust in Technology Ensuring data security Navigating long sales cycles The Evolving Role of Financial Advisors Integrating life insurance into financial strategies Overcoming historical challenges Challenges and rewards About Our Guests: Hilliard Milner is the Co-Founder and CRO of Optifino. He previously worked at NM Capital as a Managing Director. Hilliard Milner attended the University of Johannesburg. Angus Dunn is a seasoned professional based in the Bay Area with over 25 years of experience working alongside both tech startups and major tech companies. His career began with assessing factories and collecting SAP data, which laid the foundation for his deep expertise in technology and business operations. After several years in that field, Angus transitioned to a startup called Velocity, a company focused on vertical applications. Velocity was later acquired by Salesforce, providing Angus with a successful exit. He spent several years at Salesforce, working on industry solutions before diving into the rapidly evolving world of AI. Xuejun Tao is an experienced engineer and co-founder with over 30 years of industry experience. Based in the Bay Area for more than 25 years, he has built a diverse and successful career, including nearly 11 years at Google. During his time at Google, Xuejun led the development of several cloud and AI projects, playing a key role in shaping cutting-edge technologies. Nick Bowman brings 14 years of experience in the life insurance industry, with a focus on both independent distribution and career distribution. He started his career with a hands-on approach, cold-calling clients and honing his skills in the real world. This early experience shaped his pragmatic, street-smart approach to business—something he's carried with him throughout his career. Having worked in various capacities within the industry, Nick has developed a deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities that agents face. He is particularly passionate about making life insurance more accessible and efficient for agents and their clients. Resources: Xcela: https://life.xcela.ai/ Optifino: https://optifino.com/ LinkedIn: Angus Dunn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/angus-dunn-2827b2) LinkedIn: Nick Bowman (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-bowman-cfp%C2%AE-ms-cep%C2%AE-9bb31743) LinkedIn: Xuejun Tao (https://www.linkedin.com/in/xuejun-tao-0998594) LinkedIn: Hillard Milner (https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilliard-milner-ca-sa-578663138)
Why should life insurance sales be a long, complicated process? What if agents could close deals faster, more efficiently, and still deliver top-quality service? Imagine a world where the journey from initial intake to underwriting orders takes minutes, not days. It sounds almost too good to be true… In this episode, we sit down with Hillard Milner, co-founder of Optifino, and the Xcela team—Angus Dunn, Xuejun Tao, and Nick Bowman—to explore their innovative approach to life insurance technology. We discuss how Optifino and Xcela use AI to enhance agent and client experiences, streamline processes, and address industry challenges. The conversation also delves into evolving market strategies, the importance of understanding client needs, and the industry's historical challenges with innovation. Xcela and Optifino's commitment to trust and adaptability shines through as they reshape the future of life insurance. Tune in to learn more about the future of life insurance and how technology is transforming the industry. Don't forget to subscribe for more insights! Key Insights: The role of technology in modernizing the life insurance industry. Xcela's mission to enhance life insurance sales and distribution Strategies for market penetration and adapting to customer needs Importance of building relationships and trust with clients Overcoming legacy issues and regulatory challenges in the life insurance sector. Challenges of technology adoption in the insurance sector Dual approach to engaging both agents and management in sales Navigating lengthy sales cycles typical in the insurance industry The transformative potential of AI and the need for flexibility in tech solutions Commitment to data security and compliance in building client trust Featured Conversations: Hilliard Milner, Optifino [00:00:39] - The role of the platform [00:01:41] - Empowering agents [00:03:47] - User interface for agents [00:05:05] - Lead generation challenges [00:08:38] - Importance of holistic solutions [00:11:46] - Legacy issues in insurance [00:13:32] - Engaging carriers [00:20:38] - Learning and growth as a founder [00:21:46] - First key hire [00:23:22] - Future vision for the company [00:25:22] - Trends in life insurance market Notable quote: “My co-founder has a vast amount of experience in life insurance. He built a massive brokerage that has sold over $20 billion of life insurance. We specialize in complicated cases because we have the subject matter experts and our technology adds massive value.” Hilliard Milner Angus Dunn, Nick Bowman & Xuejun Tao, Accela [00:02:39] - Overview of Xcela's mission [00:03:03] - Collaborative development story [00:06:43] - Building a flexible tech stack [00:09:09] - Agent's perspective on technology [00:13:18] - Challenges in life insurance innovation [00:20:30] - Dual approach to distribution [00:24:16] - Learning from the insurance industry [00:26:11] - Team dynamics and expertise [00:27:50] - Navigating long sales cycles Notable Quote: "I really don't like to build products and we want to sell the product first, then you build the product. The reason is because if you can sell it, you can build it. When you build a product, that means that you already have a market." - Angus Dunn Notable Quote: “Now everything is possible, and how we actually make things happen is by taking a new approach to apply AI, especially to help the specific industry.”- Xuejun Tao Notable Quote: “As a young person in the industry who plans on being in the industry for a very long time and really loves this industry, I cannot wait for someone else to do this. I have to bring this change.”- Nick Bowman Key Themes: Xcela's and Optifino's Mission and Vision Streamlining life insurance with AI The genesis of Xcela and Optifino: A shared vision of applying AI to the insurance industry Creating Value Beyond Efficiency Measuring AI's impact The importance of a flexible tech stack that can adapt to future AI advancements Understanding the Agent's Perspective Empowering independent agents Go-to-market strategy Building Relationships and Trust Establishing rapport with clients Customizable solutions that enhance efficiency and effectiveness Navigating Industry Challenges Bridging the tech gap for independent agents Market-driven product development The Future of Optifino and Xcela and the Insurance Industry Anticipating industry changes and commitment to flexibility Evolving strategies in distribution Building Trust in Technology Ensuring data security Navigating long sales cycles The Evolving Role of Financial Advisors Integrating life insurance into financial strategies Overcoming historical challenges Challenges and rewards About Our Guests: Hilliard Milner is the Co-Founder and CRO of Optifino. He previously worked at NM Capital as a Managing Director. Hilliard Milner attended the University of Johannesburg. Angus Dunn is a seasoned professional based in the Bay Area with over 25 years of experience working alongside both tech startups and major tech companies. His career began with assessing factories and collecting SAP data, which laid the foundation for his deep expertise in technology and business operations. After several years in that field, Angus transitioned to a startup called Velocity, a company focused on vertical applications. Velocity was later acquired by Salesforce, providing Angus with a successful exit. He spent several years at Salesforce, working on industry solutions before diving into the rapidly evolving world of AI. Xuejun Tao is an experienced engineer and co-founder with over 30 years of industry experience. Based in the Bay Area for more than 25 years, he has built a diverse and successful career, including nearly 11 years at Google. During his time at Google, Xuejun led the development of several cloud and AI projects, playing a key role in shaping cutting-edge technologies. Nick Bowman brings 14 years of experience in the life insurance industry, with a focus on both independent distribution and career distribution. He started his career with a hands-on approach, cold-calling clients and honing his skills in the real world. This early experience shaped his pragmatic, street-smart approach to business—something he's carried with him throughout his career. Having worked in various capacities within the industry, Nick has developed a deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities that agents face. He is particularly passionate about making life insurance more accessible and efficient for agents and their clients. Resources: Xcela: https://life.xcela.ai/ Optifino: https://optifino.com/ LinkedIn: Angus Dunn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/angus-dunn-2827b2) LinkedIn: Nick Bowman (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-bowman-cfp%C2%AE-ms-cep%C2%AE-9bb31743) LinkedIn: Xuejun Tao (https://www.linkedin.com/in/xuejun-tao-0998594) LinkedIn: Hillard Milner (https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilliard-milner-ca-sa-578663138)
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My guest today is Nick Bowman, a collector and merchant of the macabre. And when I say macabre, some of the pieces we talk about, genuinely caught me off guard. But Nick was so lovely and so open, and I think he explained his fascination with these artifacts really well. Like he says in our chat – it's not for everyone, nor is he trying to push this interest on anyone. Nick was really keen to bust some myths as there's a lot of misconceptions about the collecting world – especially when you're dealing with human body parts. We talk about everything from the practicalities of collecting and the ethics, to Nick's private collection and to those big ticket items he would love to get his hands on. I do want to put in a disclaimer here – as I said we do talk about some pretty dark and heavy topics. You really are in for a treat, Nick's great and this is such a fascinating conversation. So without further ado – let's dive in….Contact Nick on..INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/nickchopper_?igsh=Yml4cG5vY2FibHY0TIKTOK: @nickchopper_Get in touch if you'd like to suggest an idea for an episode or just to say G'day
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For more information about Nick Bowman (Ullrson) and The Future Underground Show visit: www.facebook.com/ullrsonSubscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-…how/id288401159Resident Advisor: ra.co/dj/nickbowmanwww.youtube.com/@ullrsonwww.podomatic.com/podcasts/djnickbowmanwww.ullrson.comhttps://ullrson.bandcamp.com/ instagram.com/ullrsontwitter.com/ullrsonmusicsoundcloud.com/ullrson Nick Bowman Tracklist01. Wardruna - Fehu (Ullrson Bootleg)02. Ullrson - Ragnar's Revenge [Ullrson Records]03. Oxygeno - La Cara Que Esconde [Gordo Trax]04. Nicole Moudaber & Ida Engberg - I Haven't Felt This Way (Extended Mix) [MOOD]05. Aatma Sanket - Alien9 [Naked Lunch]06. Vegim - Human Behaviours [Modern Minimal]07. DULEP - Sadalmelik [Naked Lunch]08. DJ Wank - AC11D [AcidWorx]09. Wex 10 - Hypnotik [Kuukou Records)]10. Himmelfahrt - Hypnosis (Florian Binaural Remix) [Anders Krass Records]11. VIII-RE - PCP [Planet Rhythm]12. Ken Karter - STEL-LAR-101 [Eclectic Limited]13. Drucal - Suburbs I [Space Travel Records]14. Balthazar & Jackrock - Serendipity [Bitonal]15. 2nd Phase - Pendulums [Bek Audio]16. Cri Du Coeur - Switch [Tronic]17. Renrof - Disturbance [Alleanza]18. Dominik Schwarz - F That [Autektone Records]19. Androm - Smize [Voxnox]20. MOTVS, Pomella - Careless [Autektone Records]21. Conceptual - Sigil Of Lucifer [SEMANTICA]22. KMYLE - KMYLE [Illegal Alien Records]23. Spartaque - Stabbing [Codex Recordings]24. NÚRIA (DE) - Revive [Modular States]25. Mauro Somm - Move Your Body [Tronic]26. Anna Tur - Bon Voyage [Drumcode]27. Kai Pattenberg - Des Kaisers Neue Kleider (TETCHKO Remix) [Room 307]28. BFVR - Matriarch Forces [Introspective Records]29. Chontane - Ceoid [Monnom Black]30. Audioklinik - Ravers Paradise Part 2 (Homma Honganji Remix) [Adult Records]
Sam naively offers to ‘share the load' with Frodo, while Matt naively offers to do a few more episodes of the podcast. Join us as Sam goes full Marie Kondo for the last steps of their journey in the chapter Mount Doom. We remember the Host of the West, Sam remembers the oliphaunt, while Frodo is naked in the dark, unable to remember much of anything. We observe that when you can't run, you crawl; and we speculate about Gollum's possible post-Ring life. Also, our new favorite hobbit name is Nick Bowman.
In this episode of The Brewery Explorers Podcast, Noah Jones, Blake Longfellow, and Eric Burgasser speak with owners, John Haggarty, Nick Bowman and two brewers, Quinton and Chris. Throughout this podcast, the guests chat about the Beer release and what it means to them, the anniversary of Warped Wing and what their future could look like, Warped Wing's NIL partnership with the University of Dayton, and the logo redesign. Interview one: John Haggerty, Co-owner and head brewer. Start time: 0:45 Topics: Whiskey Rebellion, Warped Wing's 10th anniversary, Diversity in craft beer, and Dayton Breweries. Interview two: Quinton and Chris, Brewers Start time: 33:27 Chicago Craft Beer, Restaurant burnout, Dayton Beer, what Whiskey Rebellion Release Day means for them, and their passion for the work. Interview three: Nick Bowman, Co-owner and head of marketing/sales Start time: 47:36 Topics: Nick's Anheuser-Busch beginnings, his love of craft beer, NIL deal with the University of Dayton, community intimacy and support, and the logo redesign. Follow along on our brewery exploration! LET'S BE SOCIAL Want to be a part of the brewery exploration? Follow @TheBreweryExplorer on Instagram. Please subscribe to this podcast to learn about Ohio and its craft breweries and give a rating! CREDITS Blake Longfellow, Eric Burgasser, and Noah Jones host Blake The Brewery Explorer. The Brewery Explorers is a part of the NoJo Creative family. This podcast was edited and produced by Noah Jones.
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For more information about Nick Bowman (Ullrson) and The Future Underground Show visit: www.facebook.com/ullrsonSubscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-…how/id288401159Resident Advisor: ra.co/dj/nickbowmantwitter.com/ullrsonmusicwww.youtube.com/@ullrson https://soundcloud.com/ullrsonwww.podomatic.com/podcasts/djnickbowmanwww.ullrson.comhttps://ullrson.bandcamp.com/ Nick Bowman Tracklist 01. Ullrson - Dedicated to Odin [Ullrson Records]02. Psyk - Decoder [Timeline] 03. Frankie Vega - The Frequency (Original Mix) [Chicago Jaxxx]04. Chris Liebing Patterns (Nicole Moudaber Remix) [Mute]05. John Sense - Melting Pot (Klankwerken Remix)[KRZM Records]06. Steel Grooves - Morbid (Original Mix) [Mastoid Kollektive]07. Steel Grooves - Horizon (Original Mix) [Mastoid Kollektive]08. C-System & The Prayiiing Mantiiis - Abundance (Lenny Dee Remix) [Hard Electronic]09. Code - Invertist [DistroKid]10. MAL HOMBRE - Thrust (Translate Remix) [MindTrip]11. Dejan (SE) - Yeux Vides (Original Mix) [Binary Cells]12. Casual Treatment - Sevgilim (Original Mix) [Binary Cells]13. Trunkline - Work Dat Ass [Skryptöm Records]14. Pan-Pot - UTOPIA [Second State]15. Pan-Pot - NOVA [Second State]16. Pan-Pot - ARC [Second State]17. Pan-Pot - CORE [Second State]18. Neen - F-5 [O'Clock]19. Linear System - SPX33 (MAL_HOMBRE Remix) [Edit Select]20. Ross Hillier - Penance [Unknown Territory]21. Matthieu Benjamin - Depraved [Adroit]22. Thanos Hana - Sunday Born [MORD]23. Silenc - Empty Soul (Kamil Van Derson Hard Mix) [Eclipse Recordings]24. Schizoofr3nik - Lullaby (Original Mix) [D-Force Techno]25. Chris Liberator & Sam DFL Feat Tab K - Dead Society (Original Mix) [Interruption Records]26. Maxx Rossi & P.I.N.O. Lopez - Rave On (Original Mix) [Interruption Records]27. Freak Unique - Give it to Me Baby (Extended Mix) [Techburst Records]28. James Bong - Roses 101 [Soma Records]29. Aahan - Inner Monologue (Original Mix) [Phyzik]30. Tassid & Mønø - Velo Bonito (Original Mix) [Skuxx]
Strap in for another fantastic It List Interview! We are joined in studio by Nick Bowman. Nick is the co-founder, co-owner, and VP of Sales & Marketing for the Warped Wing Brewing Company, one of the most successful brewery operations in Ohio and the Midwest. We talk about the history of the company, the challenges of sustaining success in an ever changing market, our favorite beers, honoring the past while forging a new future, and all of the stories that went into making Warped Wing what it is today, an Ohio staple of quality beer! Don't miss it!! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theitlistpodcast/support
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For more information about Nick Bowman (Ullrson) and The Future Underground Show visit: www.facebook.com/ullrsonSubscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-…how/id288401159Resident Advisor: ra.co/dj/nickbowmantwitter.com/ullrsonmusicwww.youtube.com/@ullrson https://soundcloud.com/ullrsonwww.podomatic.com/podcasts/djnickbowmanwww.ullrson.comhttps://ullrson.bandcamp.com/ Nick Bowman Tracklist 01. Ullrson - Odin, Far Wanderer [Ullrson Records]02. Juliet Fox - You Better Run [MOOD Records]03. Jam El Mar - The Black Incal [Unrilis]04. Tawa Girl - Ange and Demon (Throb. Rmx) [Krank Music]05. Chicago Loop - Driven By Machines [Dolma Records]06. Cult Harmony - Gibulraa (Original Mix) [Forte Techno]07. Slam - Exhibit 1 [Soma Records]08. Vertical Spectrum - Lata Wica [PTL]09. Thomas Schumacher - When I Rock (A.D.H.S. Remix) [Electric Ballroom]10. Linear Phase & DASH3D - Rebelion [Airsound Records]11. Crøwn - Oyster [Airsound Records]12. Tawa Girl - Obsession (Vector 808 Rmx) [Krank Music]13. Steel Grooves - Highway To Hell (Original Mix) [Chicago Jaxxx]14. Jacidorex - Citizen (Neoacid 11) (Original mix) [Neoacid]15. OMBRAR - Thunder In The Guts (Original Mix) [Black Silhouette Records] [Promo]16. Haindo - Thunderfury (Original Mix) [SURAW]17. DJ Wank - Dark God [Big Punch Records] [Promo]18. DJ Wank - Bastards [Big Punch Records] [Promo]19. Kirril - Faces (Kenny Campbell's Faceless Remix) [Revok Records] [Promo]20. Rob Mac - Carousel (Original Mix) [Open Source Records]21. Tekscape - I'm Coming (Original Mix) [D-Force Techno]22. Zero Dayz - The Undecided (Original Mix) [Resilient Recordings]23. Re-Set - Quantum [STRGHTx]24. BFVR - Matriarch Forces (Original Mix) [Introspective Records]25. Samantha Togni - Ready To Be Unplugged (Original Mix) [Brvtalist Sound Recordings] [Promo]26. Samantha Togni - Confessions Of A Mask (Original Mix) [Brvtalist Sound Recordings] [Promo]27. Samantha Togni - Working Class Tango [PLS.UK]28. D.A.V.E. The Drummer - It's Only In Your Mind (Original Mix) [Mastoid Kollektive] [Promo]29. X Tension - Schinder (Original Mix) [Hard Electronic]30. TWAN & Dahryl - Ammunition (Original Mix) [Askorn Records]31. Hel.IV - Brave And Thick (Original Mix) [Askorn Records]
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For more information about Nick Bowman and The Future Underground Show visit: www.facebook.com/bowmannickSubscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-…how/id288401159Resident Advisor: ra.co/dj/nickbowmantwitter.com/djnickbowmanwww.youtube.com/@nickbowmanwww.podomatic.com/podcasts/djnickbowmanhttps://soundcloud.com/nickbowmanNick Bowman Tracklist 01. Irregular Synth - 777 [Kuukou]02. Jon Connor - War Of The World [Bubblejam Records]03. Dr Motte & Jam El Mar - Music Is The Answer (Peter Pahn Remix) [Rave The Planet]04. Looper - Titanomaquia En Pacheco [Dancefloor Impact Research]05. Tony Romanello - Irruption (Drumsauw Remix) [Orange Recordings]06. T78 & FOLUAL - Steam Room [Autektone Records]07. Yūgen-b - Black Hole Of Promises [Eclipse Recordings]08. joeFarr - Laced Up [Rant & Rave Records]09. Lander B - Acid Destroy [DSR Digital)]10. Tawa Girl - Point Sublime (Doublebass Remix) [Fortwin-Records]11. Jeremy Wahab - Shake It [SURO Records]12. DJ Dextro - Reverse DNA [Codein Music]13. Lazar (IT) & Jürgen Degener - Arayashiki [We Are The Brave] [Promo]14. Robert Armani - Game Day (Miss Mana Remix) [Traxmen]15. T78 feat. Angelala - No Guestlist (Extended Mix) [HILOMATIK]16. Klaudia Gawlas - Resilience [Illusion Recordings]17. DJ Dextro - Ruthless [Codein Music]18. Len Faki - Raum 422 [Figure]19. Toni alvarez - Beat Therapy (Dj Dextro Remix) [Planet Rhythm]20. Julian Jeweil - Reverse [Drumcode]21. obsqr. - Queen of the Night (90s Tribute Mix) [Planet Rhythm]22. Ranchatek - Newtonian Mechanics [Resilient Recordings]23. Minus 25 - Ihr Heuchler [The Second Room]24. Audioklinik - Critical Path (Felix R Remix) [Corrupted Data XL]25. The Obsessed - My Mind [Renegade Digital]26. Modular Phaze - Control Mechanism [Mephyst]27. Poison Cult - Linked To The Vortex [Eclipse Recordings]28. Solid State Memories - Poison Cult [Dolma Records]29. Zeltak, elMefti - Wicked Rave [Affenkäfig Red]30. Tekscape - The Other Side (DJ Sci Remix) [D-Force Techno]
Nicholas Bowman is the Founder and CEO of Motif Insurance building the first data clearinghouse for the independent life insurance market. Motif seeks to create a comprehensive ecosystem that harnesses the power of data and AI/ML to revolutionize how carriers, IMOs, brokers, and consumers interact and manage life insurance policies. In this episode Nick describes how being agent and understanding the pain points has helped to transition into working with carriers to help improve the life insurance process. He forecasts the shift towards independent broker networks. More than 80% of customers want to talk with an agent, yet accessing online information will help modernize life insurance in particular the renewals process and the back-end of life insurance that has largely been neglected by insurtech to-date. The old adage may be that, "Life insurance is sold, not bought" but agent servicing is labor-intensive and involves assessing changes in the customers' circumstances, and complex retirement planning issues. Nick has worked as an agent, taught insurance for the CFP Board, and most recently worked for Lion Street, a large Independent Marketing Organization with 1,000 agents. This episode was recorded live at Insurtech Insights New York 2023 in conjunction with InsurTech Association and our friends Joanna England Sebastian Tollak Megan Kuczynski. Follow the Insurtech Leadership Podcast airing weekly hosted by Joshua R. Hollander. We give you up-close access and personal insights from the leaders of the fastest-growing #insurtechs and most innovative #insurance carriers and brokers.
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For more information about Nick Bowman and The Future Underground Show visit: www.facebook.com/bowmannickSubscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-…how/id288401159Resident Advisor: ra.co/dj/nickbowmantwitter.com/djnickbowmanwww.youtube.com/@nickbowmanwww.podomatic.com/podcasts/djnickbowmanhttps://soundcloud.com/nickbowmanwww.facebook.com/marcelloperri909/www.instagram.com/djmarcelloperri/www.beatport.com/artist/marcello-perri/19056ra.co/dj/marcelloperri/biographyhttps://soundcloud.com/marcello-perri Nick Bowman Tracklist 01. NANCY Live - Odd Tension [We Are The Brave]02. Balthazar & JackRock - Take Me Higher [Filth On Acid]03. Danny Avila, Ramiro Lopez - Diablo [Filth On Acid] 04. Sam Paganini - Body Ride [JAM]05. Ron Impro & Grace Thompson - Butt's [Affenkäfig Red]06. Tommy Libera - The Arabic [Affenkäfig Red]07. Zafer Atabey - Wonder (Mauro Somm Remix) [Unrilis]08. PWCCA - Punk Modulator [Inducted Waves]09. Chris Liebing - Something Half Way (Alternative Club Mix) [MUTE]10. Keanu Raves - Secret Base Aesthetic [Haven]11. Blicz - You Never Heard That Before [Moments In Time]12. Uakoz, Akoriz - Around This F@-ckin Place [Kneaded Pains]13. Uakoz, Akoriz - Back In The Time [Kneaded Pains]14. Filipe Barbosa - Wrong Turn [Elektrax Recordings]15. Tierisch Verboten (21 Downbeat Cover Version) [Killekill]
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For more information about Nick Bowman and The Future Underground Show visit: www.facebook.com/bowmannickSubscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-…how/id288401159Resident Advisor: ra.co/dj/nickbowmantwitter.com/djnickbowmansoundcloud.com/nickbowmanhttps://www.youtube.com/@nickbowmanhttps://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/djnickbowmanhttps://soundcloud.com/cristianglitchhttps://www.beatport.com/artist/cristian-glitch/160685https://open.spotify.com/artist/5wTcnzxUHFAYBunjmyFSXihttps://www.facebook.com/cristianglitchofficialhttps://www.facebook.com/parallelthoughtslabelhttps://www.instagram.com/cristianglitch/?hl=enCristian Glitch Tracklist01. Malke, Lenny Dee - Activate (Original Mix) [WWR] 02. Lucid Aberration - Hallowed Fury (Original Mix) [WWR]03. David Serrano Dj - Engranaje (Original Mix) [WWR]04. Puncher - To the Core (Ron Impro Remix) [Sound Dissonance]05. Claas Herrmann - Trust (Original Mix)06. David Serrano Dj - Engranaje (Atze Ton Remix) [WWR]07. Marco Ginelli, Strasse Killer - Dunkelheit (LNO Remix) [WWR]08. David Serrano Dj & Sofian Heyyouf - Evolution (Original Mix) [WWR]09. Claas Herrmann - Drifting (Original Mix)10. FortyTwo & Sascha Audit - Black Poison (Sami D. & Dolica Remix) [WWR]11. David Serrano Dj & Senmove - Break The System (Original Mix) [WWR]12. 2CROW, Shadym, Loco13 - Welfare (Pitch! Raw Remix) [WWR]13. Cristian Glitch - Everything can Change - Unreleased14. H! DUDE - No Regret (No Neim Remix) [WWR]15. Claas Herrmann - Chase (Original Mix)16. Cristian Glitch - Chaos in my Mind - Parallel Thoughts Records 17. Cristian Glitch - Kepler - Parallel Thoughts Records18. MarAxe - Retaliation (Original Mix) [Sound Dissonance]19. Claas Herrmann - Energize (Original Mix)20. Cristian Glitch - Technodrome - Parallel Thoughts Records21. Ercan Ates & AИGL - Schranzcore (Cosmic Assault Never Sleep Remix) [WWR]22. Atze Ton - Monoid II 23. Claas Herrmann - Unbehagen 24. Niereich, Cristian Glitch - Compulsive Action (Original Mix) [WWR]25. Cristian Glitch & Marcello Perri - Rolling Pawn (D.A.V.E. The Drummer Remix) Hydraulix Records26. Cristian Glitch - Forbidden Desires - Parallel Thoughts Records27. Cristian Glitch - Enigmatic Noise 28. Cristian Glitch - Raving in the Sreet (Parallel Thoughts Records)29. H! Dude, Alex B - The Wings Of Hell (Niereich Remix) [WWR]30. Stain Valley - Feel Alive (Original Mix) [WWR]31. Malke, Lenny Dee - Activate [Cristian Glitch Remix) Master32. 51CK - Dimension Acida (Original Mix) [WWR]33. Cristian Glitch - Delirio - Parallel Thoughts Records34. Jared Pastore - There Is No Peace (Schiere Remix) [WWR]35. Cristian Glitch & Dolby D - Energizer
For more information about Nick Bowman and The Future Underground Show visit: www.facebook.com/bowmannickSubscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-…how/id288401159Resident Advisor: ra.co/dj/nickbowmantwitter.com/djnickbowmansoundcloud.com/nickbowmanhttps://www.youtube.com/@nickbowmanhttps://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/djnickbowmanNick Bowman Tracklist01. Markantonio, Drumsauw - Slave [AnalyticTrail] [Promo]02. Byrd - Nobody Knows [Techniche Recordings] [Promo]03. Azogiar - Chromatic (Mike Storm Remix) [Affekt]04. Wonder - Zafer_Atabey [Unrilis] [Promo]05. Kolpos - Missing [Analog Solutions]06. Talla 2xlc, Schwarze Puppen - Der Nebel (Extended Mix) [Technoclub Pure]07. Valentinø - Ritual [Fever Recordings]08. Tom Wax - Law & Order (Tom Wax Mix) [Dolma Red]09. Keyp - Heist of Hope [[R]3volution]10. Marcel Reix - Combination [We Are The Brave]11. WLDERZ - Parenthèse [Children Of Tomorrow]12. ENERTY - Addiction [KD RAW]13. Valentinø - Formation [Fever Recordings]14. DJ Wank - Jack Squat [Elektrax Recordings]15. Jon Connor - Mental Fire [Bubblejam Records] 16. Daryl Stay - Recoil [PLOY]17. Ross Hillier - Soul Asylum [Unknown Territory]18. N.O.B.A, DOLBY D & Shadym - Attention 2 (I AM BAM Remix) [Dolma Records]19. Heerhorst, PETER PAHN & Slin Bourgh - Time 2 Rave [Codex Recordings]20. Zen & T78 - Electronico Sintetico [Autektone Records]21. Par-T-One vs INXS - I'm So Crazy (Sancta Sanctorum Edit) [Sancta Sanctorum] [Promo]22. Marcello Perri - In Touch (Fizch Remix) [Resilient Recordings] 23. V.O.Y, OOOOØ ЯENDON - Pressure [Ganzer Takt]24. Dandi & Ugo, Marco Kallas - Trebuchet (V.O.Y Remix) [Back In Black]25. Balrog - Drone (D.A.V.E The Drummer Remix) [Khazad Records] [Promo]26. Balrog - Clinical Data [Khazad Records] [Promo]27. Balrog - The Ride Of Your Life [Khazad Records] [Promo]28. Minus 25 - Mit [The Second Room] [Promo]29. Seven Synths - Emulator (Mickey Nox Remix) [Nulleins Records] 30. Minus 25 - Mayonaise [The Second Room] [Promo]31. Minus 25 - Pommes [The Second Room] [Promo]32. Seven Synths - Lick Ya Later (Original Mix) [Nulleins Records] 33. Seven Synths - Impulsion (VSK Remix) [Nulleins Records]
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For more information about Nick Bowman and The Future Underground Show visit: www.facebook.com/bowmannickSubscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-…how/id288401159Resident Advisor: ra.co/dj/nickbowmantwitter.com/djnickbowmansoundcloud.com/nickbowmanhttps://www.youtube.com/@nickbowmanNick Bowman Tracklist01. Irregular Synth - Acid Way (Original Mix) [Rave The Planet]02. Balthazar & JackRock - Define [Hypnostate]03. Gotshell - Todo O Nada [Illegal Alien Records]04. Gary Beck - Ship Went Down [Drumcode]05. Juliet Fox - Evolution of Thinking [Drumcode]06. Julian Jeweil - Pulsation [Drumcode]07. Noseda - Save The World [Ragnarok Berlin]08. DJ Warp - Electric Groove (DJ Hi-Shock Remix) [Elektrax Music]09. Tham - Obey Or Be Banished - Driller]10. Tham - Wrong Turn - [Driller]11. Tham - Driller Killer [Driller]12. Heerhorst & Marc Deal - Where We Belong [Codex Recordings]13. DJ Dextro & Matt Mus - Reptiles [Codex Recordings]14. DJ Wank - Aquila Claws [Elektrax Music]15. Andreo - Morse Code [Ganzer Takt]16. Vanessa Sukowski, Andreas Kraemer - Eternal Nightmare [Ganzer Takt]17. Nik Wel - Annihilating Rhythm [Ganzer Takt]18. Eugen Kunz - Lost Fate (Roentgen Limiter Remix) [Ganzer Takt]19. Without Eyes - Ene Je [Ganzer Takt]20. Hioll - Sucker Punch [Perc Trax]21. Tess - Maddy' s Daydream [Phase 2 Records]22. HXL - Close Your Eyes [Autektone Records]23. Atonal Structures - Tetric Shapes [Ganzer Takt]24. Tommy Libera - Soundbreaker [Affenkäfig Red]25. Sara Krin, Valentino - Series VI (Odd Recordings)26. Optimuss - Synthetic Lines [OFF Recordings]27. Lowerzone - Drop That [OFF Recordings]28. Gary Burrows - This Trip (OFF Recordings)29. DJ Jordan - Manifest (N.O.B.A Extended Remix) [Techburst Records]30. Fatima Hajji - The Universe [Silver M]31. Avgusto - It`s my Imagination [Flash Recordings]
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For more information about Nick Bowman and The Future Underground Show visit: https://www.facebook.com/bowmannick Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-future-underground-show/id288401159 Resident Advisor: https://ra.co/dj/nickbowman https://soundcloud.com/nickbowman https://twitter.com/djnickbowmanCristian Varelahttps://cristianvarela.com/https://www.facebook.com/cristianvareladjhttps://twitter.com/cristianvarelahttp://www.youtube.com/cristianvarelatvhttps://www.instagram.com/cristianvareladj/https://soundcloud.com/cristianvarelahttps://www.beatport.com/artist/cristian-varela/1861Cubr1k (Christian Varela) (1st Hour)https://www.facebook.com/djmladentomichttps://soundcloud.com/mladentomichttps://www.youtube.com/@UC6dfR-leRCfe7Ui07-LiZoA https://www.beatport.com/artist/mladen-tomic/19356https://www.instagram.com/mladen_tomic/Mladen Tomic Tracklist (2nd Hour)01. Oldskoolerz (Original Mix) Boris Brejcha 02. Wirelife (Original Mix) Gaiser III 03. 6am (Original Mix) - Carbon 04. Reckless (Original Mix) Mladen Tomic05. Clap & Cry (Carlo Lio Remix) Andre Salmon, Phil Costa06. S-Sound (Original Mix) Green Velvet, Hyperloop Mentalizm07. Wheel (Original Mix) Veerus Wheel08. MandM 2023-1 09. How It Makes You Feel (Original Mix) Carl Cox, Nicole Moudaber 10. Knocking Echoes (Original Mix) Kaiserdisco, Karotte11. Come to My Beat (feat. Romina) (Original Mix) Nicole Moudaber, Romina12. Can't Stop the Feeling (Original Mix) Eli Brown 13. Feelin (Conrad Rogers Remix) Domshe Creep It14. Call It Techno (Carlo Lio Remix) Frankie Bones
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For more information about Nick Bowman and The Future Underground Show visit: www.facebook.com/bowmannickSubscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-…how/id288401159Resident Advisor: ra.co/dj/nickbowmantwitter.com/djnickbowmansoundcloud.com/nickbowmanhttps://www.youtube.com/@nickbowmanNick Bowman Tracklist01. Irregular Synth - Acid Way (Original Mix) [Rave The Planet]02. Balthazar & JackRock - Define [Hypnostate]03. Gotshell - Todo O Nada [Illegal Alien Records]04. Gary Beck - Ship Went Down [Drumcode]05. Juliet Fox - Evolution of Thinking [Drumcode]06. Julian Jeweil - Pulsation [Drumcode]07. Noseda - Save The World [Ragnarok Berlin]08. DJ Warp - Electric Groove (DJ Hi-Shock Remix) [Elektrax Music]09. Tham - Obey Or Be Banished - Driller]10. Tham - Wrong Turn - [Driller]11. Tham - Driller Killer [Driller]12. Heerhorst & Marc Deal - Where We Belong [Codex Recordings]13. DJ Dextro & Matt Mus - Reptiles [Codex Recordings]14. DJ Wank - Aquila Claws [Elektrax Music]15. Andreo - Morse Code [Ganzer Takt]16. Vanessa Sukowski, Andreas Kraemer - Eternal Nightmare [Ganzer Takt]17. Nik Wel - Annihilating Rhythm [Ganzer Takt]18. Eugen Kunz - Lost Fate (Roentgen Limiter Remix) [Ganzer Takt]19. Without Eyes - Ene Je [Ganzer Takt]20. Hioll - Sucker Punch [Perc Trax]21. Tess - Maddy' S Daydream [Phase 2 Records]22. HXL - Close Your Eyes [Autektone Records]23. Atonal Structures [Tetric Shapes] [Ganzer Takt]24. Tommy Libera - Soundbreaker [Affenkäfig Red]25. Sara Krin, Valentino - Series VI (Odd Recordings)26. Optimuss - Synthetic Lines [OFF Recordings]27. Lowerzone - Drop That [OFF Recordings]28. Gary Burrows - This Trip (OFF Recordings)29. DJ Jordan - Manifest (N.O.B.A Extended Remix) [Techburst Records]30. Fatima Hajji - The Universe [Silver M]31. Avgusto - It`s my Imagination [Flash Recordings]
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For more information about Nick Bowman and The Future Underground Show visit: www.facebook.com/bowmannickSubscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-…how/id288401159Resident Advisor: ra.co/dj/nickbowman @nickbowmantwitter.com/djnickbowmanNick Bowman Tracklist01. Dyno - Tekorg [Dyrwalk] [Promo]02. Dyno - Groket [Dyrwalk] [Promo]03. Dyno - Sconquasso (Dark and Drop Mix) [Promo]04. Ars Dementis - Plan B From The Void (Original Mix) [Abnormal Frequency Music]05. Dyno - Vondovo [Promo]06. Robert Capuano - Climax [Unrilis] [Promo]07. Audio Units - Sirius X [Dynamic Reflection]08. Quadrophnia - Quadrophonia (UMEK Remix) [1605]09. Lowerzone - Injection Panic [No Response IT]10. D.A.V.E. The Drummer, Andy S - Origin [Hydraulix]11. DJ Wank - A Kick & 2 Squeaks [Dolma Red]12. Ignacio Arfeli - Town House [We Are The Brave]13. Dolby D & Sheef Lentzki - Insidious 9 (Original Mix) [Dolma Records]14. GabrielBpMusic - Devil [Faraway]15. Angelo Rizzo - Labyrinth (Original Mix) [Mastoid Kollektive]16. Angelo Rizzo - Twisted (Original Mix) [Mastoid Kollektive]17. Marcel Reix - Elevator [We Are The Brave]18. Beat42 - Initiation [Dark Carousel]19. Violent - Dathrakis (Original Mix) [Vast Perception]20. Krave - Hunter (Original Mix) [Vast Perception]21. Abbeloos Olivier & IG - Infection (Original Mix) [iG Recording]22. Jokasti - Skotadi (Exal Remix) [Prodigal Son]23. Benno Bengalo - Ready To Fly [Faraway]24. Benno Bengalo - Be Like 90 [Faraway]25. WISER. - Morning Haunt [Beaufort Beats] [Promo]26. Rob Lewis - That Feeling [Beaufort Beats] [Promo]27. B. Riley - Palm Of My Hand [MOOD]28. Doug Cooney - Complex [Unterwelt Records]29. Amelie Lens - Affection [Global Underground]
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For more information about Nick Bowman and The Future Underground Show visit: https://www.facebook.com/bowmannick Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-future-underground-show/id288401159 Resident Advisor: https://ra.co/dj/nickbowman https://soundcloud.com/nickbowman Tweets by DJNickBowman fb.com/djwank www.wank.dk www.sptfy.com/djwank www.instagram.com/djwank beatport.com/artist/dj-wank/74784 DJ Wank 1st Hour – Tracklist 01. Chris Mørgan – In My Head [Autektone Records] 02. Mark Broom – TR1 […] Subscribe to listen to Techno music, Tech House music, Deep House, Acid Techno, and Minimal Techno for FREE.
For more information about Nick Bowman and The Future Underground Show visit: https://www.facebook.com/bowmannick Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-future-underground-show/id288401159 Resident Advisor: https://ra.co/dj/nickbowman https://soundcloud.com/nickbowman Tweets by DJNickBowman Nick Bowman Tracklist 01. Ninna V – Wetiko (Nick Bowman Remix) [Rawsery Records] 02. Simina Grigoriu – Sector Unu (Klaudia Gawlas Remix) [Kuukou] [Promo] 03. […] Subscribe to listen to Techno music, Tech House music, Deep House, Acid Techno, and Minimal Techno for FREE.
For more information about Nick Bowman and The Future Underground Show visit: https://www.facebook.com/bowmannick Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-future-underground-show/id288401159 Resident Advisor: https://ra.co/dj/nickbowman https://soundcloud.com/nickbowman https://twitter.com/djnickbowmanfb.com/djwankwww.wank.dkwww.sptfy.com/djwankwww.instagram.com/djwankwww.soundcloud.com/dj-wankbeatport.com/artist/dj-wank/74784DJ Wank 1st Hour - Tracklist01. Chris Mørgan - In My Head [Autektone Records]02. Mark Broom - TR1 [Hardgroove Ltd]03. Dist - Distortion [RAW]04. DJ Sun - Uh Ah [Akronym]05. Deas - Resonant [Planet Rhythm]06. Juliet Fox - Subconscious Reset [Second State]07. Jody 6 - I Dream In Acid [Autektone Records]08. New Frames - Mass Organism [Bite]09. Alfonso Forte & Emiliano Cassano - La Rebelión (Pitch! Remix) [Quadrumane]10. Sopik - Satisfied Cowboy [Finder Records]11. David Moleon - Poison [Dorcha]12. Heerhorst - Acid Lunch [Codex Recordings]13. DJ Wank - Voice Contortion [Rotraum Music]14. Zero Dayz - Infected Minds [Resilient Recordings]15. Slv - Vision Revelations [Soma Records]16. Esther Duijn - Dominatrix [Gegen Records]https://www.facebook.com/RAMKKA.bstrd/https://www.instagram.com/ramkk.a/https://open.spotify.com/artist/14lMOFvZ67OL0CmG4o9m5Chttps://www.beatport.com/artist/ramkka/921475Ramkka 2nd Hour - Tracklist01. RVDE - 90s Hammer (Perc Remix)02. EAS - Welcome To My Death Machine03. Dahryl - Breaking Ice04. Åre:gone - Lord Deceptor05. Rikhter - Dissolution06. Perc - 240 Volts07. Sekulahr - Persona Non Grata08. Brayan Valenzuela - You Roks09. VII Circle - Warriors10. Hybral - Ramponiert11. Waldhaus - Assault 200812. Ruthless - Fire To The Slaughterhouse (Sub Terra Remix)13. Rebekah & X-Tension - Rancor (Original Mix)
For more information about Nick Bowman and The Future Underground Show visit: https://www.facebook.com/bowmannick Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-future-underground-show/id288401159 Resident Advisor: https://ra.co/dj/nickbowman https://soundcloud.com/nickbowman https://twitter.com/djnickbowmanNick Bowman Tracklist01. Ninna V - Wetiko (Nick Bowman Remix) [Rawsery Records]02. Simina Grigoriu - Sector Unu (Klaudia Gawlas Remix) [Kuukou] [Promo]03. UMEK - Persona [1605]04. Ninna V - Monomyth [Rawsery Records]05. Sylvie Maziarz - Red Eyes (Original Mix) [WarinD Records] [Promo]06. Jokasti - This Is A Subliminal Message (7XINS Remix) [Prodigal Son] [Promo]07. Selofan - Vrachikikloma (Jokasti Dub Mix) [Prodigal Son] [Promo]08. Jokasti - Shirley (Dyad Remix) [Prodigal Son] [Promo]09. Jokasti - Time To Time (A.Morgan Remix) [Prodigal Son] [Promo]10. Michael Klein - Aspect [We Are The Brave] 11. Brad Lee - August (Rolando Hodars Acid Redux) [Chicago Jaxxx]12. Nik Wel - Reaction Mass (Dreizehn Schallplatten)13. Nik Wel - Nuclear Pulse (Dreizehn Schallplatten)14. Marcel Reix - Acid Tension [We Are The Brave] [Promo]15. Daz Furey - Triumph Of Faith (Weirdmunky Remix) [Filth Infatuated Digital]16. Woody McBride - The Birdman (Jacidorex Remix) [Nocturbulous Classic] [Promo]17. Lucas Campagna - Pleasure Of The Essence (Original Mix) [WarinD Records] [Promo]18. The Obsessed - Rock The Place (Original Mix) [Hard Electronic]19. Ninna V - Hidden Perspective (A.PAUL Remix) [Rawsery Records]20. Kreuz - Toxic Cycle (Original Mix) [New Glam]21. WarinD - Manizales Acid (Original Mix) [WarinD Records] [Promo]22. Luigi Madonna - CNTMP 3.01 [Contempo]23. RAMKKA - Wailing Song (Original Mix) [Helle Holle Records]24. MERVH - Symbiosis (Original Mix) [Vast Perception]25. Blap - Machines (Original Mix) [OUT OF CTRL] [Promo]26. Hooraa - The Asylum (JGarrett Remix) [Mastoid Kollektive]27. Beat42 - The Examination Of A Witch (Original Mix) [Dark Carousel] [Promo]28. Beat42 - HELL (Original Mix) [Dark Carousel] [Promo]29. Blap - Propaganda (Original Mix) [OUT OF CTRL] [Promo]30. Blap - Paradox (Original Mix) [OUT OF CTRL] [Promo]31. Código Vermelho - Unexpected Termination (Original Mix) [Under Division Records] [Promo]32. Código Vermelho - Runtime Exception (Original Mix) [Under Division Records] [Promo]
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For more information about Nick Bowman and The Future Underground Show visit: https://www.facebook.com/bowmannick Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts click here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-future-underground-show/id288401159 Resident Advisor: https://ra.co/dj/nickbowman https://soundcloud.com/nickbowman https://twitter.com/djnickbowmanNick Bowman Tracklist01. Ilyas S - Start (Original Mix) [Red Section]02. Allan pillai - DoubleThink [Olympian]03. GrooveANDyes & Lautaro Gabioud - Out Of This World [Unrilis]04. Zafer Atabey - Dream [Unrilis]05. Zafer Atabey - Resurrection [Unrilis]06. Diego James - Ex Machina (Paul Atreides Remix) [Red Eclipse]07. Chris Ogden - Immortal Distancing [KRZM Records]08. Rangel Coelho - Mantra [Dreizehn Schallplatten]09. I Am Bam - Revolt (Electric Rescue Remix) [I-BAM Recordings]10. Cristian Varela - IPSO FACT (H. Paul Remix) [Induxtriall Records]11. Israel Toledo - Nobody is Forever [Assassin Soldier Recordings 12. Israel Toledo - The Interceptor [Assassin Soldier Recordings]13. Wiccuwa & Ray Raven - Planet X [Resilient Recordings] [Promo]14. PITCH! - Acid Bullet [Resilient Recordings] [Promo]15. Keah - Computer Error (Gregor Size Remix) [Basics Avenue]16. Keah & Fragment Architect - Perception (Original Mix) [Resilient Recordings] [Promo]17. Jon Connor - FORZA ROSS (Original Mix) [Bubblejam Records]18. Jon Connor - The Crazies (Original Mix) [Bubblejam Records]19. Rangel Coelho - Check It Out [Dreizehn Schallplatten]20. Rangel Coelho - Dark Human [Dreizehn Schallplatten] 21. Koenig Cylinders - 99.9 (John Selway 2002 Remix) [IST] 22. Midirama - Night Ride To LZX (Original Mix) [Resilient Recordings] [Promo]23. Giovanni Carozza - MRC [Inherit] 24. Giovanni Carozza - Einatmen (Kalte Liebe Remix) [Inherit] 25. Alt8 - Loop Da Loop (Chris Liberator & The Geezer Remix) [Dancefloor Impact Research]26. Fizch - Neurosis (Original Mix) [Resilient Recordings] [Promo] 27. Mark Sherry meets Space Frog & Derb - Follow Me (N.O.B.A. Remix) [Techburst Reords] [Promo] 28. Daniel Rifaterra -Nono [We Are The Brave] [Promo] 29. Daniel Rifaterra - Estoriboris [We Are The Brave] [Promo]
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On this Hacks & Wonks week-in-review, Crystal is joined by journalist from The Seattle Times, Heidi Groover. They begin the show by discussing a zoning change in Shoreline that would allow for more duplexes and triplexes, and the broader issue of housing affordability in Washington and across the country. Crystal and Heidi then dive into pushback from corporations and one city councilor on protections for app-based workers, a standstill getting concrete workers back on the job, and two Seattle Starbucks locations on strike this weekend. They conclude by reviewing predictable results from the Seattle Chamber poll, a proposed law that would impact ballot initiatives and a continued push for SPD hiring bonuses without compelling evidence to support the use of funds. As always, a full text transcript of the show is available below and at officialhacksandwonks.com. Find the host, Crystal Fincher on Twitter at @finchfrii and find today's co-host, Heidi Groover at @HeidiGroover. More info is available at officialhacksandwonks.com. Resources “Shoreline may decide to allow duplexes and triplexes in all residential neighborhoods” by Daniel Beekman from The Seattle Times: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/shoreline-may-decide-to-allow-duplexes-and-triplexes-in-all-residential-neighborhoods/ “Across 26 Metro Areas, Residents Largely Support Allowing Missing Middle Homes in Residential Neighborhoods” by Manny Garcia from Zillow: https://www.zillow.com/research/modest-densification-zhar-30934/ “Millions of Americans are resorting to risky ways to buy an affordable home” by Jennifer Ludden from KUOW: https://www.kuow.org/stories/millions-of-americans-are-resorting-to-risky-ways-to-buy-an-affordable-home “Corporations Push Back As Details Emerge on Seattle's Pay Up Legislation for App-Based Workers” by Natalie Bicknell Argerious from The Urbanist: https://www.theurbanist.org/2022/04/13/corporations-push-back-on-seattles-pay-up-legislation “Gig Economy Giants Worry Paying Minimum Wage Will Hurt Business” by Hannah Krieg from The Stranger: https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2022/04/13/70697302/gig-economy-giants-worry-paying-minimum-wage-will-hurt-business “‘Going to take some time to ramp up,' concrete suppliers say of deliveries after strike ends” by KIRO Newsradio Newsdesk from MyNorthwest: https://mynorthwest.com/3433283/seattle-area-concrete-strike-ends-suppliers-not-ready-resume-deliveries/ “This Week in Worker Conquests: Biden Calls Out Amazon, Starbucks Claims to Be “Assaulted” by Unions, and NLRB Petitions Are Up 57%” by Conor Kelley from The Stranger: https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2022/04/08/70306986/this-week-in-worker-conquests-biden-calls-out-amazon-starbucks-claims-to-be-assaulted-by-unions-and-nlrb-petitions-are-up-57 “Workers at two Seattle Starbucks take to picket lines on Friday over claims of union busting” by Nick Bowman from MyNorthwest: https://mynorthwest.com/3436753/seattle-starbucks-strike-friday-april-2022/ Nick Bowman Twitter Thread: https://twitter.com/nicknorthwest/status/1513885223553019914?s=21&t=XCkU4ETYl2IoU0MT6HgfMw “Chamber Poll Asks Leading Questions, Gets Predictable Answers” by Erica C. Barnett from PubliCola: https://publicola.com/2022/04/12/chamber-poll-asks-leading-questions-gets-predictable-answers/ “New law could affect the way voters in WA decide on ballot initiatives” by Shauna Sowersby from The Olympian: https://www.theolympian.com/news/politics-government/article260388562.html “Nelson Continues to Piss Off People with Her Push for SPD Hiring Bonuses” by Hannah Krieg from The Stranger: https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2022/04/13/70609336/nelson-continues-to-piss-off-people-with-her-push-for-spd-hiring-bonuses “The Police Hiring Incentives Conversation Continues” by Amy Sundberg from Notes from the Emerald City: https://www.getrevue.co/profile/amysundberg/issues/the-police-hiring-incentives-conversation-continues-1124878?utm_campaign=Issue&utm_content=view_in_browser&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Notes+from+the+Emerald+City Transcript [00:00:00] Crystal Fincher: Welcome to Hacks & Wonks. I'm Crystal Fincher, and I'm a political consultant and your host. On this show, we talk with policy wonks and political hacks to gather insight into local politics and policy in Washington state through the lens of those doing the work with behind-the-scenes perspectives on what's happening, why it's happening, and what you can do about it. Full transcripts and resources referenced in the show are always available at officialhacksandwonks.com. Today we're continuing our Friday almost-live shows where we review the news of the week. Welcome to the program for the first time, today's co-host: reporter for The Seattle Times, Heidi Groover. [00:00:50] Heidi Groover: Thank you so much for having me. [00:00:51] Crystal Fincher: Thanks for being on - a lot to cover, just starting out with - Shoreline might decide to allow duplexes and triplexes in all of their residential neighborhoods, which is a big deal - a lot has been talked about on this topic lately. What is Shoreline considering? [00:01:11] Heidi Groover: Yeah, they're very early in the process. My colleague, Dan Beekman, covered this this week - the City Council is essentially directing its planning department to study this idea and to do public outreach. And this is part of their planning update in 2024, so they're going to look at different options, they're going to look at environmental effects, and then of course they'll do some level of public meetings and that kind of thing to hear where their residents are at. Today, around 70% of Shoreline is zoned for low density development. [00:01:49] Crystal Fincher: So this would be a major expansion of zoning and density possibilities in the city then. [00:01:58] Heidi Groover: It would, yeah. And as you mentioned, this is part of this kind of broader discussion that's been happening all over the state and obviously in Seattle for a while, but by one estimate - we need something like 40,000 more units of housing right now, 80,000 more by 2050. People are continuing to move here, prices are up basically everywhere - tons of people want to buy houses in this market or rent, and there just aren't enough of them. And I think sometimes people think this is a Seattle issue or a King County issue, but it's really statewide and it is affecting suburbs like Shoreline. King County home prices last year were up 14%, but that was actually nothing compared to Pierce County, 20%, Snohomish County, 24%, Spokane County, 23%. So you're really going to see this conversation happening all over the state, I think. [00:03:05] Crystal Fincher: And it is a big deal - it is a statewide problem, as we covered in the conversation that was had during the legislative session that ended about a month ago, where a middle housing bill that would have helped in this area was considered and almost passed, but wasn't able to get past some of the torpedoing by some legislators - in Seattle, go figure. But one of the important things is that it really is affecting suburbs and they need to accept density. They're also relying on the City of Seattle to do a better job of accommodating the people who are moving into the City - because as rents in Seattle skyrocket and people get priced out of Seattle, they then move to the suburbs and are pushed out there, but are also a lot of times bringing their higher incomes and really gentrifying those areas too. So this pressure is felt not just in our major metropolitan areas, but in suburbs and rural areas. And we're seeing the impacts of that with increased rents, kind of across the board. Now, Zillow also ran a recent poll. What happened with that? [00:04:26] Heidi Groover: Yeah, they polled in various cities across the country, including Seattle and Spokane, and they asked people about the idea of allowing more density in single family neighborhoods or lower density neighborhoods. And the reason I think this is interesting is that in Seattle, for example, 71% of people said that they think allowing more apartments increases affordability, but when they were asked, "Would you support an apartment building in your neighborhood?" only 53% said yes. And so - that's still more than half - but you see the difference between what people think hypothetically or universally, and then what they're willing to accept in their own neighborhood. And I think this is really the core of why changing this is so hard - because the state bill that you mentioned, met really fierce pushback from cities and local governments. And I think that's because they know that the people who live there are sensitive to this kind of change and are not always going to welcome it, despite what they say in polls, and they wanted to retain what they view as local control. And so I think that if you don't think about the fact that people fear or are resistant about upzoning - it gets worse and worse the closer it is to them - you're not really prepared to make the changes at the scale. And so that's what's driving, I think, this gentle density thing where we're looking at duplexes and triplexes, because it's a little easier for people to accept. I don't know that that's really going to meet the scale of the housing crisis. [00:06:24] Crystal Fincher: Well, we're certainly going to have to address a larger percentage of the land that is currently zoned for low density. I do - I think you hit the nail on the head in that support for increasing density and doing things that are proven to help affordability - erodes and people's inner NIMBYs come out. But I also think, to your point, in that, Hey, even when people are asked, well, do you want it in your neighborhood? Still a majority of residents support that. And I do think, from listening to legislators and lots of people in cities - the Association of Washington Cities, which kind of is a lobbying arm for municipalities as a whole - they're used to hearing from a frankly small, relatively small - a minority that's a subset of people who currently own land, their houses have been appreciating and not wanting anything to interfere with that. But as prices have skyrocketed and it's become harder to buy a home and harder to afford to rent, especially in the same areas that people are used to being able to afford, a larger percentage of people are kind of on the outside looking in. And I think that's been driving the increase in support that we've seen to now where even if we ask people, Hey, what if it's in your neighborhood? We're still getting a majority of people who support that. And so I give credit to people like Chris Roberts - Councilmember Chris Roberts in Shoreline - who, even though they're used to hearing from some of the same traditional voices that we hear in these conversations that a lot of times are NIMBYs, are people who don't want development in their neighborhoods. And they aren't used to having people show up - because it's inconvenient and hard and people aren't familiar with the way the system works and how accessible or not local government is - that they haven't heard as much from people who do want increasing density. But those people are increasingly making their voices heard, and the recognition that there is a significant portion of people's constituencies, of cities' residents, that are demanding solutions to help keep their cities places where they can afford to live and work - that those voices are getting louder and we're seeing leaders step up and respond to that. And I think that should be applauded and supported, but we will continue to see how this progresses over time - as you said, this is early in the process. Any ideas as to how this will progress in terms of timeline? [00:09:12] Heidi Groover: I don't know exactly what the next step is, but I would expect that over the coming year, you would start to see more discussion in Shoreline, and more public meetings, more possible policies being laid out as the decision-makers there try to decide - Is it going to be a wholesale upzone? Is it only going to be in certain single family zones? - things like that. [00:09:40] Crystal Fincher: Makes sense - we will keep an eye on that. Another story came out this week from KUOW talking about - as buying a home is becoming tougher for more people, lots of people are looking towards riskier ways of buying a home. What was in that article? [00:10:00] Heidi Groover: Yeah, this was a national story from NPR, actually. So they were talking to legal aid advocates all over the country, and they basically found that people are turning to these "alternative financing options" which is basically like an off-the-books, under-the-table deal to buy a house. And it's not recorded by a bank, it's not regulated, it's something like a handwritten note or a handshake agreement. And this means that - if you're in this kind of agreement, you may be able to buy a house when you can't otherwise, because of bad credit or structural factors that make it hard for you to buy - obviously the legacy of racist practices in housing. But you're also not covered by a lot, or any, of the government protection that would usually act to prevent the seller of the house from ripping you off and simply not giving you the house when the time comes. And so, this has been a hard thing to track because it's off the books. And so Pew did a survey and they found that 20% of borrowers said that they had used something like this at some point, which is significant - and they're largely people with lower income, people who live in rural areas, disproportionately Black and Hispanic people. And so, it's really - it's not the norm, by far, but it is something that is worth paying attention to because this is the kind of situation that people are driven into when they can't get a typical mortgage. [00:11:56] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, it's complicated, and with so much - in terms - certainly in America, so much wealth is generated from people's homes. And the way our society is structured that there's - people feel a lot of pressure and urgency to make the move towards buying a home. And with it being more expensive, less accessible, all of these alternatives schemes popping up that are hard to parse for a lot of people - the fine print, the details of those are not necessarily obvious to a layman, or even someone who may have had a traditional mortgage before. This is just different, so it's a challenge. [00:12:45] Heidi Groover: Yeah, it's not the only risk people are taking - I talk to home buyers all the time in this current market in Washington state who are doing things like waiving their right to an inspection before they buy a house, or waiving their financing contingency - which means that if their loan falls through, they could be out their entire down payment or more. And so, with this extreme - as you said, with this extreme pressure because homeownership is the primary way of building wealth, sometimes of having retirement, or having something to give to your kids - people feel this extreme pressure and they're willing to do almost anything to buy a house. And even real estate agents and people in the industry acknowledge that this kind of stuff is really risky, but they also are like, well, everyone else is willing to do it. And so if you want to buy, this is what you basically have to do. I think it really underscores what a housing shortage - and housing as a commodity that you have to buy - does in a market like this. [00:13:57] Crystal Fincher: I completely agree. I think we're seeing signs from every corner that we are in an absolute crisis. It would have been great if more was done before this to prevent us from being here, but now that we're here, we need immediate and impactful action to get out of this. 'Cause people are desperate and it's putting people at risk, it's pushing people out of their communities, and we can do better so we need to do better. Also this week - we have talked about Seattle's Pay Up legislation for app based workers before - this week, we saw a lot of pushback on that. What is that legislation and what is the pushback that we're seeing? [00:14:41] Heidi Groover: This legislation would ensure that the gig workers who are picking up your food delivery for apps like DoorDash and Instacart are paid the equivalent of Seattle's minimum wage - and that's done through a complicated formula, but that's ultimately the result of the proposal. And it comes amid these two years of this growing recognition of the risks that these workers faced during the pandemic, how heavily so many people relied on them, and in turn small businesses who survived because of the possibility of delivery. And also these ongoing efforts to try to confront this independent contractor model that these companies use in which their workers are not employees and therefore are not guaranteed things like the minimum wage. So Seattle has done a ton of legislation around this, and this is basically the latest in that. And I think the pushback that we saw this week was that the companies alleging what they often do, which is that there wasn't enough process to engage them, that this kind of thing could increase prices for the consumer, which would result in less business for the drivers, and a kind of overall complaint that it's one-size-fits-all, or they weren't consulted enough by the City. [00:16:16] Crystal Fincher: Which is interesting because it was reported that DoorDash, TaskRabbit, Uber, Rover, instacart, and GoPuff had been invited to participate in stakeholder meetings and also attended them. So did they give any specific feedback on how to make this legislation better, or were they mainly opposed to the entire idea? [00:16:38] Heidi Groover: As far as I can tell, they're mainly opposed to the entire idea. I'm not actively covering this - so with that caveat, there could be something I'm missing - but based on the coverage I saw this week, they are against the idea and also using this talking point that they don't feel they were consulted enough. [00:16:59] Crystal Fincher: Yeah - as far as councilmembers, how are they lining up in support or opposition to this? [00:17:05] Heidi Groover: So the proposal was introduced by Councilmembers Lisa Herbold and Andrew Lewis. The primary opposition or concern I've seen so far is from Councilmember Sara Nelson, who had some of the same concerns that the companies expressed and we'll see how the vote goes. I think we can kind of guess, based on previous votes about gig work, how other councilmembers might line up. But I think it shows the dynamic, which is that most of the Council is, generally speaking, labor friendly. And then several members, including Sara Nelson, have said that there needs to be more focus on small businesses or the business owners' perspective. [00:17:53] Crystal Fincher: Right, and I have certainly seen Sara Nelson's comments, which have largely, largely agreed with the app companies' comments. We will see how this proceeds - what's next in the conversation about this legislation, and when might it move forward for a vote? [00:18:14] Heidi Groover: I don't know exactly when it will get a vote. I know that it's just continuing to move through the Council process, and obviously the advocates working in support are continuing to organize. And I imagine the companies are continuing to work on their talking points as well. [00:18:29] Crystal Fincher: Makes sense. Well, we will continue to follow that. It will certainly be interesting to see further comments from councilmembers, and from Mayor Harrell - to hear how he decides to weigh in on this. It would be very useful - I don't - I have not seen any comment from him so far. Have you? [00:18:49] Heidi Groover: I have not, no. [00:18:51] Crystal Fincher: Okay, well, we'd certainly be curious to see what his input is on that, and his administration. Also this week, there were more developments in the concrete workers strike. Last week, we talked about a judge rebuking the concrete companies for intentionally assaulting, striking workers with vehicles. They have since come to an agreement to largely go back to work, it appears. What's happening there? [00:19:24] Heidi Groover: Well, as you said, this strike has been going on for months. It's about 330, mostly mixer drivers, who have been on strike for that time - and it started in November, it expanded in December. And so the most reason development, as you said, is that they - the union offered to send all of its workers back unconditionally without a deal. So, that's not something that we see happen all the time in strikes - it's controversial. And it, from the outside, it is unclear whether any real movement has been made in the negotiations. One of the core issues for the union, which is this retiree healthcare plan - basically drivers - they work all their career, they come to the time they decide to retire, perhaps they are not yet eligible for Medicare and they have access to a healthcare plan that will cover them for that gap between when they retire and when they can go on Medicare. And that plan currently exists, but the drivers want to improve it so that it costs the retirees less. And they say that they are willing, the current employees are willing, to cover that cost and that the companies are refusing. And that that's one of their core issues that they've been trying to get in negotiation. Now, the companies haven't really addressed this as a substantive issue - they've said that their offer is fair, that it includes a pay increase and generous benefits, so it's a little bit of a black box as to what exactly they're thinking on this particular issue. But that's one of the core issues for the union, and as far as I can tell, basically no movement has happened over the course of this strike. And so now they've offered to go back to work. They're saying that that's a good faith gesture and they are waiting for the companies to call them all back to work. [00:21:26] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, and very interesting - lots has been discussed about how many projects in the region are reliant on concrete from these companies and workers on strike - in that timelines for bridge repair projects, other projects are in jeopardy and in danger of being delayed because of the strike. So the workers offering to go back to work would seemingly be a big relief, except the companies are saying, well, yeah, they've offered to come back, but we're not quite ready yet and it's gonna take a lot of time to get them back. Which is kind of reminiscent of what we saw when a smaller subsection of workers offered to go back. What is the complication with getting the drivers back to work? [00:22:20] Heidi Groover: Well, the companies have - the way they describe it - they have these complex systems for how they dispatch the trucks to different projects and how they plan that out. And during the strikes, they - some of them leased out their trucks to non-union companies, some of them struck these other deals to try to keep concrete flowing with non-union drivers. And so now they're in a position of needing to unwind all of that and return to dispatching the union drivers. And so they say they're working on it as fast as they can, they want the drivers back to work, they want the projects back on track. I've seen some people in the industry speculate that there's a fear that maybe the union will call another one-day work stoppage or something - the strike could return. But I do think that pretty much everyone involved is served by getting the drivers back to work, so I think we'll see it at some point, but they say that it's going to take a little time. [00:23:28] Crystal Fincher: Well, as we have been, we will continue to follow the developments of that and update you with anything else that might appear there. This week, there's been a lot of labor news. What has been happening, starting with Amazon and President Biden weighing in? [00:23:46] Heidi Groover: Well, after this really unprecedented vote in Staten Island, where Amazon warehouse workers voted to create and join a union, President Biden said that he supported the effort, essentially. He said, this is what unions are about in my view - providing dignity. He said, Amazon, here we come. So he certainly seemed to be implying that he supports the effort, he wants to see more of it, and that his administration supports unionizing in general. [00:24:19] Crystal Fincher: Which is a big deal - to have the president of the country weigh in in favor of your unionization, especially when we've seen such ferocious pushback and union-busting activity from Amazon. Also, news this week that Amazon is developing an internal chat to help workers connect with each other. The challenge is that chat blocks a ton of words, including "union," "terminated," "compensation," "living wage," "unfair," "favoritism," "freedom," "restrooms," "trash," "coalition." Basically it seems like, hey, we're giving you this tool that we are acting like it's supposed to help you and connect you, but really we are going to great lengths to prevent you from being able to talk about anything related to organizing, unionizing, or working conditions - which just seems like it was really short-sighted. They were broadly mocked for that. What do you see in general, in terms of the stance that Amazon is taking and even Starbucks, and versus what their workers are doing and how they're organizing? [00:25:32] Heidi Groover: Well, I think that what's been really interesting is to read about the organizers of this Staten Island warehouse and basically how they did it, despite all of this behavior from Amazon, which has been happening since they started, and of course happening in Bessemer also - the other warehouse where employees voted on whether to unionize. And if you read about what they did, it's a lot of very grassroots, on-the-ground stuff - they camped out in the break room, gave out free food, and talked to people about the union. They were basically every day at a bus stop out in front of the warehouse talking to people about the union, answering questions about the company talking points, and again, giving out food and other supplies. And they were showing that - we are Amazon workers, we're not an outside third party. We are working here at this warehouse just like you. And we are the union, and here's what that means. And I think that that's a huge reason why they were so successful despite this kind of bizarre stuff from Amazon, like we saw with this internal chat app. So I think that if this is going to move forward in other warehouses, that's probably only going to happen with that same kind of grassroots effort that we saw in Staten Island. [00:26:59] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, it seems to make a big difference. And here locally, we have some news - lots of Starbucks workers have been organizing - there is a wave afoot and a strike coming up this weekend. What's on tap? [00:27:14] Heidi Groover: Yeah, so nationally it's something like 180, definitely more than 150, Starbucks locations have said that they want to unionize. And here in Seattle, there are a handful - we've had one of them vote so far and they were unanimous in joining the union. And so a couple of the other Seattle stores that are trying to unionize - Fifth and Pike and one on Eastlake - are doing some temporary strike actions this weekend. So Eastlake workers are on strike today, Friday, for one day. And at Fifth and Pike, they're planning to go on strike for three days. And they're raising concerns about - in general their unionizing effort and the company's response - which they view as union busting. The company has repeatedly denied any allegations of union busting. The workers also say they're dealing with things like understaffing and not getting enough hours to stay on their health insurance - things like that - so they're trying to draw attention to their working conditions broadly and their concerns, and why they view unionizing as a way to have a voice in these types of policies at Starbucks. [00:28:29] Crystal Fincher: Well, we will certainly be continuing to pay attention to that - a lot going on - Howard Schultz is feeling some heat based on some appearances we saw that he made over the past week or two. They are on a roll - they have a lot of momentum - they're asking for what most people consider to be very reasonable accommodations and pay and benefits and protections. And so, personally, I can definitely say I am excited to see how they're making progress and we will continue to follow what's going on there. We'll also include links to help you follow what's going on there in the Starbucks union, Amazon unionization efforts. So check the episode notes for that. This week, we also saw some polling come out - one of them from the Seattle Chamber. What did this poll say? What did it show? [00:29:34] Heidi Groover: Well, this was one of these wide-ranging, sort of like how-are-you-feeling vibe track polls, asking people about how they feel about the direction the City's going in, what their biggest concerns are, right track wrong track, things like that. And they also included some questions about housing and homelessness and policing - the big issues facing the City. And I think that the big takeaways were - the thing that made a lot of headlines was - 67% of people said they had considered leaving the City. And I think when you see that, you can kind of quickly slot that into your politics or your priors, and you can assume why people might be saying that. If we actually look at the poll, 35% of people said it was because of cost of living and housing, 29% of people said public safety, crime, drugs, 12% of people said homelessness, 9% of people said City government and leadership. So that gives you a sense of the issues that are making people supposedly consider moving. Again, that doesn't mean they actually left the City - we're just talking about how people are feeling about the state of things. [00:30:57] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, and really interesting - was looking at just analysis by Nick Bowman, who is currently at MyNorthwest, a reporter at MyNorthwest - a Twitter thread analyzing this. And to your point, it's real easy to look at a number like that and then to assume that the reasons why are the reasons why you personally might consider that on either side. I think - we've talked about this a little bit on this program before, and as he points out, this is pretty consistent with eight years of surveys from various pollsters and groups. Looking at polling between 2011 and 2019, a lot of similar sentiments were identified and so it's really interesting that the current conclusion drawn by some over these surveys has been that - well, it's because things are getting more progressive and real Seattle residents don't like that. And we need to get back to the good old days and the way things used to be - which is always really interesting when we think about how Seattle actually really did used to be - but it's really not consistent with how Seattle has voted and elected leaders. A lot of that time - Bruce Harrell was on the Council for all of that eight-year period of declining satisfaction, Tim Burgess was on the Council for about half that time, Scott Lindsay was the public safety advisor for the mayor's office. The Council's shift to have a significant, progressive arm has been a relatively recent thing. And when we look at polling, the dissatisfaction doesn't track with that shift. And so it just seems premature to make a conclusion that, well, this is dissatisfaction with things moving in a progressive direction. It just looks like dissatisfaction for reasons that have yet to be uncovered, or that are a little bit deeper. Because looking at the history of this, it really does not track with, well, people were more unhappy as things moved in a more progressive direction. Just really interesting, so I hope we see more publicly available polling to do this. There's lots of internal polling that is examining this around the area and the state right now - that'll certainly influence the shape of races and initiatives and the public discourse to come. But, really interesting and PubliCola also had an article just mocking a couple of the real leading questions that weren't exactly constructed very well or that seemed like they were constructed to get a specific response. But even accounting for that, there's a lot to pull out of this that doesn't seem like it has a simple, well, we just need to do this simple policy or just go back to the way that we used to be doing things. 'Cause that way wasn't popular either. How did you see that? [00:34:07] Heidi Groover: Well, the other thing that Nick pointed out in that thread was just kind of this question of what it would take to turn those numbers around. So obviously, in the last City elections, we saw a rightward shift toward more moderates - and we now have Mayor Bruce Harrell and City Attorney Ann Davison. And so the question is sort of - if the people with concern about things like public safety successfully elected politicians who said that they were going to crack down on that or make that their primary focus, then when will they begin telling pollsters that they feel better about the City, or will they ever? [00:34:59] Crystal Fincher: Very relevant question - we anticipate that we'll be seeing more publicly available polling in the future, and we'll certainly be looking to see that, and hope that pollsters probe that - this hopefully is pointing those people in the direction of what they need to explore and uncover in terms of public opinion. Also this week, we saw some coverage of the new initiative that is going to be on the ballot - Initiative 1929 - to repeal the capital gains tax and other taxes. It would also take out the JumpStart Tax in Seattle. And some - I would assume for supporters of that initiative - really alarming polling. We usually don't see initiatives land on the ballot that have this level of polling. What were the results? [00:35:53] Heidi Groover: So the results of that polling showed that - in an initial poll, only 40% of voters would vote for that initiative. 39% said No, and 20% were not sure. And then there was a second survey that included a statement about what the initiative would decrease funding for - so this is a new state law that will require that kind of language on any state initiative that would repeal or modify a tax. And so, after including a line about how it would decrease funding for education and other programs, the results were that Yes votes went down a bit to 37%, 49% said No, and then 14% were unsure. So it seems to indicate that that kind of statement on the ballot would erode support for rolling back taxes. [00:36:54] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, it is really rare to see an initiative move forward on the ballot statewide - that has significant funding to back it up - that is starting - we generally don't see initiatives that start underwater. I mean, their high watermark was 40% when the ballot title is read. The ballot title is "Repeal the Capital Gains Income Tax." And at 40%, it just does not - that's before any negative messaging has occurred, that's before anyone has given voters or the people who were polled a reason to vote against it, just on its face - "Repeal the Capital Gains Income Tax" is a very unpopular thought and proposal. And only 40% of people approve that, which actually tracks with prior polling that we saw in support of the capital gains tax - that was receiving 65-ish% approval for the tax - which is part of the reason why it passed and was so popular. So just in the face of that, it's a bit odd. And then when given detail - and in the poll it was said this measure - once respondents were told this measure will decrease funding for education, early learning, childcare, and school construction, support dipped even further down to 37%. So, starting from that point, before anyone else has had a chance to mount a campaign to educate people about why this is problematic for many people - it is really unpopular. So they certainly have their work cut out for them. Lots of people - it's not controversial to support education, early learning, childcare, and school construction. Most voters and polling that we've seen repeatedly and in support for school levies and bonds across the state - this is something that they certainly have been willing to dig deep in their pockets to fund because they place such a high priority on it. And they seem to be saying, man, we've been paying for these in terms of levies and bonds forever. It would be great if the ultra wealthy also paid their fair share to help this. And so it's going to be really interesting to see how this unfolds - Republicans, the state Republican Party, and Republican legislators seem really excited about this. They are notoriously anti-tax and have opposed this from the beginning, but it just seems like a challenging place to be when we saw - in the mid-60s - support to herald its passage and to help get it across the finish line. And now trying to repeal it - you're trying to take away things that people care about deeply and need, and that are beneficial to the community. So, I am curious to see what they saw internally and what they thought internally - that gave them the confidence to proceed with this. I don't know what that would be in the face of results like this. I can't imagine their internal polling would be much better. It doesn't look like they have responded to this polling with anything that substantively or in any way contradicts it. So just kind of odd to see it on the ballot with such low support starting out. [00:40:28] Heidi Groover: Yeah, and I wonder how this would play out for other initiatives - if it was required that, on the ballot, it said what it would cut funding for. We've seen so many Tim Eyman initiatives be successful, for example, and then a huge battle plays out about - most recently transportation funding. And I do wonder if it would have changed anything if it said what the hit to the state budget was going to be on the ballot. [00:40:56] Crystal Fincher: Also this week, we'll wrap up talking about the Seattle City Council's conversations around SPD hiring bonuses that seemed to lack any data or suggestion that there's a reason to believe that they'll work. What is happening with that? [00:41:17] Heidi Groover: This conversation has been going on at the Council for a while, and really as part of the larger conversation about the police department. And it seems that the most recent development is this debate about whether hiring incentives actually work to draw more officers to SPD. And there's a debate going on about - should there also be hiring bonuses for other City departments - what other City departments are facing difficulties hiring people, could hiring bonuses make existing employees feel undervalued, are there other reasons that it's hard to recruit people rather than just money? And so you've got some councilmembers really wanting to focus broadly on all the City departments and the work that the City's HR department has been doing to review hiring bonuses. And then Councilmember Sara Nelson is pretty focused on SPD and really believes that hiring incentives would help to hire more officers for SPD. And so you're seeing some friction between the councilmembers about whether to focus on that, or whether to have this broader conversation. And ultimately it seems to me like a proxy battle for just how the councilmembers view the police department and its role, and how it should be funded, and whether it should be privileged over other City departments. And so it seems like you're going to continue to see that divide play out. [00:42:53] Crystal Fincher: Well, and I think part of it is that conversation, but part of it is looking at the data that they've received that shows that that did not seem to be an effective tool, so far, for keeping the hiring bonuses on. And the data shows so far that in SPD, the hiring incentive doesn't have any relation seemingly to people wanting to stay. And so there seemed to be more City councilmembers who are - who feel that they do need to do more to fill available spots and open spots, and to retain the officers that they have there. And some of the question seems to be around what is the best way to do that. And so it looks like largely Sara Nelson is saying, well, these hiring incentives work because they work in other cities - and so we don't need any more data or to study anything more here. Councilmember Herbold cited a study in 2019 on SPD hiring incentives in which only 1 in 5 applicants said the bonus affected their decision to stay. And so maybe - she suggested offering relocation assistance for people who are lateral hires might be a better idea, but it doesn't seem like the bonuses were effective in getting people to come here and that the amount of the retention bonuses in comparison to their salaries is enough to impact their decision. And then also weighing this against - there are staffing shortages in several areas of the City. Does it make sense to also explore retention bonuses in other areas, particularly those where it represents a higher percentage of their salaries and might be more convincing or impactful in a decision to stay. So, I think there's a lot to do with this. I do think they need to continue to look to see if this is a useful and valid method of accomplishing what they want to accomplish. Whether that's a good goal in and of itself - of retention - there is disagreement in the community. But if this is their stated goal of retaining officers, this retention bonus that has been discussed so far and the amount that has been discussed does not appear to be effective in retaining a higher percentage of officers, which is really important overall because the City is still facing $150 million budget deficit. And so these dollars and how they're spent are impactful, given the size of the force and the total amount of expenditures that we're looking at. So we'll continue to follow this conversation also, and see how that proceeds. But I think the more information that we get on how effective the things that we're doing in achieving the goals that are articulated - that that's a useful thing. [00:46:03] Heidi Groover: I think just that question of the other City departments - I think is going to continue to play out, because even if the Council starts to solve this issue for SPD, I've seen truck drivers, cashiers, other City jobs cited as places where they have trouble retaining people. And you can deal with this problem with SPD and you're still gonna have it in other departments. [00:46:31] Crystal Fincher: Well with that, we will close the show for today. We thank you for listening to Hacks & Wonks on this Friday, April 15th, 2022. The producer of Hacks & Wonks is Lisl Stadler, with assistance from excellent producer Dr. Shannon Cheng and Emma Mudd. Our wonderful co-host today was reporter for The Seattle Times, Heidi Groover. You can find Heidi on Twitter at H-E-I-D-I-G-R-O-O-V-E-R. And you can find me on Twitter @finchfrii. Now you can follow Hacks & Wonks on iTunes, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts - just type "Hacks and Wonks" into the search bar. Be sure to subscribe to get our Friday almost-live shows and our midweek show delivered to your podcast feed. While you're there, leave a review - it really helps us out. You can also get a full transcript of this episode and links to the resources referenced in the show at officialhacksandwonks.com and in the episode notes. Thanks for tuning in and we'll talk to you next time.
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On this Hacks & Wonks week-in-review, Crystal's co-host is criminal defense attorney, abolitionist and activist Nicole Thomas-Kennedy. They discuss how a powerful lobbying group used a focus on local control to sink statewide housing reform, and how to overcome that in the next session, a rundown of candidates running for open seats, the disconnect of prioritizing the wants of downtown stakeholders over real solutions to homelessness, the Seattle City Attorney's repackaging of a failed initiative, and mixed results on the plan for some concrete workers to return to work while concrete companies continue to drag their feet on negotiating a fair contract. As always, a full text transcript of the show is available below and at officialhacksandwonks.com. Find the host, Crystal Fincher on Twitter at @finchfrii and find today's co-host, Nicole Thomas-Kennedy, at @NTKallday. More info is available at officialhacksandwonks.com. Resources “Here's What Happened in Olympia” by Rich Smith from The Stranger: https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2022/03/15/68343035/the-strangers-rundown-of-2022s-huge-confused-legislative-session “What Will It Take to Get Statewide Housing Reform?” by Matt Baume from The Stranger: https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2022/03/16/68207458/what-will-it-take-to-get-statewide-housing-reform “Surprise Sweep Displaces Fourth Avenue Encampment, Scattering Unsheltered People” by Erica C. Barnett from PubliCola: https://publicola.com/2022/03/09/surprise-sweep-displaces-fourth-avenue-encampment-scattering-unsheltered-people-throughout-downtown/ “Downtown Sweep Highlights Urgency of Resolving Seattle's Other “Top-Priority Encampment,” Woodland Park” by Erica C. Barnett from PubliCola: https://publicola.com/2022/03/16/downtown-sweep-highlights-urgency-of-resolving-seattles-other-top-priority-encampment-woodland-park/ “City Attorney's Office Introduces Latest Initiative to Target “High Utilizers” of the Criminal Justice System” by Paul Kiefer from PubliCola: https://publicola.com/2022/03/15/city-attorneys-office-introduces-latest-initiative-to-target-so-called-high-utilizers-of-the-criminal-justice-system/ “Harrell postpones Seattle police plan to crack down on ‘disorderly conduct' at Third Avenue bus stops” by David Kroman from The Seattle Times: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/harrell-postpones-seattle-police-plan-to-crack-down-on-disorderly-conduct-at-third-avenue-bus-stops/ “Cigarettes and Fentanyl: All Aboard” by Nathan Vass from NathanVass.com: http://www.nathanvass.com/blog/cigarettes-and-fentanyl-all-aboard “Some Seattle-area concrete drivers return to work, others await go-ahead from employer” by Nick Bowman from MyNorthwest: https://mynorthwest.com/3398180/seattle-concrete-drivers-return-others-await-employer/ “Concrete strike continues in King County as union workers who offered to return didn't show” by KING 5 Staff & Adel Toay from KING 5: https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/concrete-strike-king-county-union-workers-no-show/281-f14d167c-c88c-44db-91c8-591171124209 Transcript [00:00:00] Crystal Fincher: Welcome to Hacks & Wonks. I'm Crystal Fincher, and I'm a political consultant and your host. On this show, we talk with policy wonks and political hacks to gather insight into local politics and policy in Washington State through the lens of those doing the work with behind-the-scenes perspectives on what's happening, why it's happening, and what you can do about it. For transcripts and resources referenced in this show, you can visit officialhacksandwonks.com and reference our episode notes. Today we're continuing our Friday almost-live shows where we review the news of the week with a co-host. Welcome to the program for the first time, today's co-host: criminal defense attorney, abolitionist, and activist Nicole Thomas-Kennedy. Hey. [00:00:55] Nicole Thomas-Kennedy: Hello. Thanks for having me - and this is the second time I've been on - must have been so memorable that first time. [00:01:01] Crystal Fincher: No, this is your first time as a co-host on the Week In Review. Yes, we did an interview last time, which was very good and incredible. And a number of people were like, well, we see who you want to win. And it's just like, look, if she happens to be making great and salient points, it's not my fault. But yes, just really, really excited to have you here on the Week In Review. [00:01:28] Nicole Thomas-Kennedy: I'm excited to be here. Thank you. [00:01:30] Crystal Fincher: Well, and so the first thing that we have coming out of the gate was one thing I wanted to talk about - coming out of the end of the legislative session - we talked last week and broke down a number of bills. The Stranger this week had a great article that we'll put in our episode notes that also further broke down what was great about the legislative session, what was disappointing, and how we can move forward. And then Matt Baume also had another article talking about the failure of bills that would have mandated more density, specifically near transit, that would've helped address the affordability crisis that we have here in the state. And I thought it was very good - it was focused on, hey, what needs to happen moving forward to actually succeed in passing bills that require more density statewide? In that, he talked about the AWC, Association of Washington Cities, being a vocal opponent. They are a powerful lobby in the State of Washington. Their purpose, they say, is to represent the over 200 cities in the state. And their position largely was - it's really important to have local control in these and the one-size-fits-all solution that would come from the state just may not be right for our communities, so therefore we need to do nothing. The challenge in that is that most cities have not moved forward on doing anything. As you look at this issue, Nicole, what do you see as being the barriers and, I guess, the opportunities for moving forward successfully? [00:03:16] Nicole Thomas-Kennedy: I think that when I look at this, first I think it's funny that there is a coalition of all these cities that are all saying the same thing - we want local control - that seems to be the only thing that they agree on. But I think that on a state level, there needs to be a floor created for affordable housing and density, and that's really all we were talking about for the most part with these bills. It wasn't any incredibly specific directions that each city has to take on a certain timeline on a certain budget - anything like that. It was about just creating a floor of affordable, dense housing that is needed in pretty much every community. And I think that what I heard a lot in the last year was that - the reverse of there needs to be local control - which was now we have municipalities competing against each other for who can do the least. Seattle is - Sara Nelson and other people are calling out other cities for not doing their part and spending their money on addressing the crisis. And it seems to be like a race to the bottom in terms of who can spend the least. And because the idea, I think, is that if you build services, if you build affordable housing, people will move into them. And why do that when you can concentrate a lot of the unsheltered population in one place that provides the minimum to keep people alive? And that's what I see going on. [00:04:59] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, and definitely a resistance to people who are defined as others and outsiders from even being able to buy into communities. It was really interesting in this article - there were representatives from cities across the state, from Port Orchard to Tacoma to University Place, and a number of them were leaders within AWC and talked about - we need local control, we are all very different. But one very consistent thread in these is that the median home price in most of these areas has doubled. This housing crisis is not just a crisis in major municipalities. It is a crisis across the board in areas that were affordable - that people used to consider being affordable and that people could buy into and still work in a major area where jobs are concentrated. And still live, even with a commute unfortunately - that it was possible to buy a home there with a median income. It is no longer the case in many of these places. And sometimes, like one of these examples in Port Orchard, they touted - well, we built new homes. Well, yeah, those are half million dollar plus homes adjacent to a golf course. If we're concentrating on making sure cities are accessible to people across the board and that you don't have to be rich and that we aren't displacing people outside of cities and just gentrifying them, then we have to have a solution across the board. Also, interestingly, the National League of Cities, which the Association of Washington Cities is a member of, had a 2019 report that said, "While local control is often at the heart of policies that accelerate progress, there are examples, particularly in the affordable housing policy arena in which state policy is needed." To your point, there has to be a floor. We have to establish a minimum boundary. Cities can determine the right way that they're all going to get there, but what we can't do - what is not sustainable, we're already paying the price for - is continued inaction while just spouting excuses like, well, it's not local control, therefore it's nothing. I would love to see leaders within the legislature say, "Well, you say you want local control? This wasn't successful this session. You now have this coming year to address this within your own cities. If you do, we can find a way to create legislation that respects what you've done." And more than likely if you're taking meaningful action, the floor is going to be below where you set it. But it's not going to be an option to continue to not take action next session and further on in the future. I would love to hear that from legislative leadership and leaders across the state - it just should not be an option. We have to make cities and housing affordable and accessible for people to live in, or else we're going to make our homelessness problem worse, we're going to make our displacement problem worse, we're not going to have people available to fill jobs that are necessary within cities. This is a critical economic development issue just in addition to a housing and social issue. So I hope we address that. Go ahead. [00:08:31] Nicole Thomas-Kennedy: Oh, I was just going to say too that I really like how you talked about these are communities that used to be affordable. When we talk about Port Orchard - my in-laws live in Port Orchard, and so when they bought their home, it was very affordable and the amount of money it appreciated to was pretty astronomical. And so when we're resisting building affordable housing - and affordable really is - we're talking about homes that are less than half a million dollars, which is just a wild concept that that's where we are with the average home prices in an area. It wasn't always like that. So the idea that these - the people that are already there should be able to stay with this huge, expensive appreciation that they have in their home value, but then not let anybody else in that is going to be coming in at the same level that they came in at. And unfortunately they're not going to be able to afford - they're going to have to have less in terms of space and in terms of all of those things. And so it's interesting to me to want to keep out the same people that are essentially already there, I guess. [00:09:52] Crystal Fincher: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it absolutely is that issue. And then as I look at this, it's like the people who are in housing whose housing has appreciated and who are resistant to any kind of acceptance of other people in their communities - we're talking about their kids, we're talking about their employees, we're talking about their students. And again, people talk about, well, I can't find anyone to fill this position in my company. We can't find people. No one wants to work. But is it that no one wants to work? Or is it that you're now forcing people who can't live and work in the same community, and maybe the compensation doesn't work for someone who has to commute 45 minutes each way and drop off their kids beforehand and pick them up after? It just isn't tenable for so many reasons. I feel like we leave housing and affordability out of economic discussions and it's just so critical and a big part of those two. So I hope that we see significant action, and that candidates are talking about this on the campaign trail, and our leadership is making it clear in both the House and the Senate - that this is something that needs to be acted on and will be acted on next session, and that cities are on notice that they need to move in the right direction. [00:11:19] Nicole Thomas-Kennedy: Yes, I agree. Yes. That needs to happen. And I think there needs to be some - maybe more clear calling out of what is actually happening. If municipalities are saying, oh, we want to sit down, we want to sit down, we want to talk, we want to talk - but then they're not asking for any more talks and they're not proposing anything of their own. I think it's maybe time to call a spade a spade and say, are you really interested in solving this problem, or are you really just kicking the can down the road? [00:11:47] Crystal Fincher: Exactly. Well, the legislative session did recently conclude, and that means that now we have a number of legislators who are kicking off their re-election campaigns and starting in earnest. One thing I don't know if everyone who listens is aware of is that - while our legislators are in office, they can't actually raise money, so they can't do a major element of campaigning. There is a prohibition against doing that, also for certain employees of the state. So once session concludes, they're all trying to catch up to people who have already been running and doing that. And so a lot of them are - people are receiving a lot more emails from their representatives and appeals for donations - that's happening now. And I just wanted to do a quick little rundown of where there are open seats. There are a number of representatives who are retiring or moving onto different positions, some in the House are running for Senate seats - but that is leaving some positions open that are now contested by several different people. The 22nd Legislative District in Thurston County - having Beth Doglio and Laurie Dolan who are Democrats, and Loretta Byrnes running for those - that's Position 1 there. 30th Legislative District in Federal Way, where Jesse Johnson has decided not to run for re-election - we have Kristine Reeves, who's filed to run, Leandra Craft, Lynn French, Ryan Odell and Ashli Raye Tagoai, I think it is, and Janis Clark. And then in the 36 District in Seattle, where Reuven Carlyle decided not to run and then Noel Frame decided to run for Reuven Carlyle Senate seat, leaving that House seat vacant - there's Julia Reed, Jeffrey Manson, Elizabeth Tyler Crone, Nicole Gomez, and Waylon Robert. And in the 46th District - and just a reminder, I am working with Melissa Taylor - there is Melissa Taylor, Lelach Rave, Nancy Connolly, Darya Farivar, and Nina Martinez who have filed for that seat. That's in north Seattle, northeast Seattle. 47th Legislative District, which is eastern Kent, Covington, Maple Valley area, where Pat Sullivan is no longer running, he's not going to be running for re-election - there's Carmen Goers, Kyle Lyebyedyev, Jessie Ramsey, and Satwinder Kaur, who is a Kent City Councilmember. And then King County Prosecuting Attorney is an open seat because Dan Satterberg is not running for re-election - and so there's Stephan Thomas, Leesa Manion, and Jim Ferrell who are running for that seat. So there is a lot to come - we're certainly going to be having conversations with several of these candidates, but running these campaigns are getting off in earnest now - and you'll be hearing lots and seeing lots, and the end of the legislative session is a big turning point in campaign season with another big milestone coming up. There are lots of people who can file to run and you can start your campaign committee in May - in mid-May is where people officially declare that they're running for a specific seat - and that will determine who actually appears on your ballot. And so that'll be the final say on who is running for what, so people in the interim can potentially switch positions they're running for, choose not to run - lots of choices and paths that this can go down. As you're looking at this crew, does anything just come to mind for you? Or you've run a campaign - a big campaign citywide before - what do see just ahead for these candidates and for voters who are evaluating them? [00:15:59] Nicole Thomas-Kennedy: I mean, I see some candidates that I think are exciting - I also love Melissa Taylor. I used to work on the other side of Leandra Craft - I think she's smart and knows what's going on. So I think I'm seeing some good candidates. Campaigning at that level is different because there just has to be so much fundraising done, whereas in the City, we're so lucky that we don't have to spend all of our time doing that. I just - I wish everyone the best because - oh yeah, oh, Nicole Gomez too. There's some people to be really excited about, I think, and so that's great. I just wish everyone the best. I hope everyone's taking good care of themselves - that's what I think when I see this list. [00:16:45] Crystal Fincher: Running for office is a very, very tough thing. It's not fun - you're putting yourself out there to be scrutinized - people do not always consider the human when they are communicating with or about candidates. And they are humans - even when we disagree with them, they're humans. I do think, as candidates are kicking off their campaigns, certainly fundraising is a big deal in the City of Seattle - with City races, there are Democracy Vouchers where every resident gets money from the City that they can donate to the candidate of their choice. That is not the case in these campaigns this year - they have to raise all the money they need. And campaigns do take money because unfortunately there is not broad media coverage, and getting your message out to most voters requires communicating directly with them. And so whether it's knocking on their door, giving them a call - which still takes resources - and usually also involves communicating with them via mail or online or on TV - just a lot of different mediums there. And then people are also focusing on endorsements - especially early on, people are trying to figure out - what do these candidates stand for, what have they been involved with, and how have they worked before in the past, what is their history? And sometimes endorsements can be revealing and highlight what that candidate prioritizes, who is in their corner, what kind of issues they'll be strong on and a leading a advocate for - not simply a vote. So lots of that happening right now, and certainly just hope for the best and hope they are successful in getting their messages out. It is an interesting time and campaigns are kicking off once again. I did want to pivot to a number of news items in the City of Seattle surrounding public safety - first being the issue of sweeps of a number of encampments. And so we had a 4th Avenue encampment sweep, which scattered a bunch of unsheltered folks. There's probably other sweeps to come soon, and the issue of another encampment that has been viewed as a top priority at Woodland Park. As you look at what's going on with these sweeps, what do you see as far as what's happening? [00:19:33] Nicole Thomas-Kennedy: What I see is the huge amount of disconnect between what the public thinks is happening and what is actually happening - and that's just such a huge disservice to everyone. I know that there's a narrative out there that people are refusing services and they're refusing shelter. And I guess the idea is that some people are camping out in the cold and rain, because that's preferable somehow to be sheltered. And that's not what the case is - we don't have enough places for people to live that they can afford to live in. We don't have the services that are needed to stop this from continuing to happen. Also, the thing is - it really just moves the problem around. There's nothing really - it will clear one area of sidewalk for a certain period of time, but all it does is move things around. And the more people are destabilized, who are already barely, are clinging to stability and security in the most tenuous way possible - are then pushed around and have all the belongings they need to survive thrown away - because that's what we saw in the downtown sweep is - it was different than some of the other sweeps in that they didn't really offer services, they didn't offer anything. There's different timelines that they went by because they called the tents downtown an obstruction, a sidewalk obstruction, which means that they're - all of the things that they're supposed to do during the sweep, they didn't have to do any of that. And they didn't. And so we just see people's belongings being thrown away, tents thrown away. And I think what's also missing from the narrative around these sweeps is just how much stress that puts on service providers. I talk to a lot of people and they say, well, the Navigation Center is just up the street and I'm like, how much do you think that they can handle? Because as a public defender, something that I saw often was people being displaced by going to jail. That means when they get out, they have to get a new ID, a new EBT card, they have to go to DESC and see if they can get a tent and a sleeping bag - because there's things that people need in order to survive. And people don't just evaporate after a sweep, they are still existing. And also my partner has an office in Pioneer Square and he watched the 4th Avenue sweep, and he's seen a lot of sweeps around . That area. And he says, it's just really hard to watch people who are barely hanging on become so dysregulated by the horror of what is actually happening to them. And he said he would see people huddled together in alleyways trying to get away from the police - it's just a really horrifying scene that doesn't - it really truly does not solve any problem other than that one piece of sidewalk for a little bit of time. And so we're spending millions and millions of dollars to essentially make this problem worse. We move it around and make it worse. And so, I get that people don't want to see this anymore, but if that's what they want, then we're going to have to take some steps towards solutions and sweeps just aren't it at all. [00:23:04] Crystal Fincher: Yeah. You raised so many good points - it's absolutely correct. The bottom line is the actions that we're taking are not moving people into shelter and permanent housing. It is not an ideal solution to have people on sidewalks and have people living on streets. But when people don't have a home to go to and they don't have anywhere else to go, that is the option. That is the option. Unless we just expect people to die, we can't jail our way out of the problem. There certainly is a contingent of people who are just like, well, they shouldn't be on the sidewalk and that should be illegal and that's an obstruction and it's bad, and they should be arrested and they're probably criminals anyway and they're causing problems and creating crime. When the reality is people who are unsheltered are actually many times more likely to be victims of crime. They're a very vulnerable population and that's all just factless propaganda that we're hearing otherwise. But our services are not set up to meet the needs that actually exist, and time after time - when we listen and we hear things like they were offered shelter and they refused, we really do have to dig a little bit deeper and think about what were they offered? So many times what they were offered does not actually accommodate the needs that they have - if they have a partner, if they have a dog - those people that they have relied on that again, because they're in such a vulnerable position and because they are so exposed to the likelihood of having crime committed against them, having people that they can count on who help to look out for you, that help to protect your belongings - is essential to survival. And a lot of times we're asking them to give that up for a night in a shelter, for a week in a shelter. It's not even like they have the opportunity to transition in a permanent way and okay, maybe it's going to be okay. That stay in the shelter could be absolutely destabilizing for them and could tear apart the only thing that is keeping them safe and warm and alive. And so we just have to get really serious about this. I think Marc Dones has talked a lot about this issue and that we have to get real about - when we see such high "refusal rates", which can just be a service didn't fit. And when we see high rates of people being referred to services and then not showing up or following through, there's a reason for that. And if we want to get to the root cause of this issue and if we want to get people off of our sidewalks, which I think everybody wants, then we have to actually address the issues there and meet the needs that exist, not the ones that - they have to be solutions that meet the needs that they're identifying that they have, not what we think they should have, not what we think they deserve, not what we think is right or good or moral or all of that stuff. If we aren't addressing the things that they say will, hey, yes, that is something that I could do to move forward to get off the streets, then we're just moving people around to different areas. And again, a sweep is just moving people off of a block - the City and the County will acknowledge, have acknowledged - that no, it's not solving the issue of homelessness, it's moving them off of a block. I think another missing part of this conversation is that we seem to be prioritizing the needs and wants of downtown moneyed interests and not those of the rest of the community. We're perfectly fine spending tons of money - allocating tons of time and officer resources, City resources - to clear a block here and there at the behest of the Downtown Seattle Association, or the Chamber, or a business owner who's been loud and vocal, but we're actually not doing the same thing in other neighborhoods where just regular people are living. In fact, we're displacing the problems that existed in the downtown area to other communities - freely admitting it and saying, hey, we just spent the money that we could have spent to house people - which is the biggest problem of homelessness is people lacking houses - and we're treating this like a criminal solution and basically putting the problem into your lap now. And doing a victory lap because this one block downtown is clear for now. It just does not make much sense to me. And I just feel like so many people are just like, well, you don't care and you want all the sidewalks to be like this. No, no one does. We just want to actually not keep kicking the can down the road and waste the money that we could be using to actually solve this problem. [00:28:33] Nicole Thomas-Kennedy: Absolutely - and I also think that there's - I don't really understand why there is so much comfort in subsidizing downtown businesses using all the resources there to make sure that they can have what they want, but everybody else has to deal with the fallout and they just have to take it on. But like downtown - their sidewalks, everything - the City as a whole pays to subsidize clearing those blocks for them and for their businesses. And I don't understand why anyone is okay with that idea, especially because yes, we're not talking about solutions. And I think that if you're not talking about getting people housed, then you are just talking about moving the problem around. And there's a lot of reasons why - you were talking about people might refuse services, but there's also - and they're very real. Like you said, there's a community aspect that is the only thing that's keeping a lot of people truly alive, truly safe, truly alive - the modicum of safety and life that they have. And that's not considered. And I think that it's a very convenient - to say, well, they refused services - but it's just like, well, did you give them a three-night hotel voucher where they can't take any of their belongings? And so therefore they know if I do this, then I'm going to be out again in three days and I'm not going to have any of the things that I need to survive. There's a lot more that goes into decisions about what services to accept and not, rather than just personal preference. And I think that's how it gets sold - is like, oh, well, you maybe don't like this, but that's what there is. And it's just - first of all, I think people should have choices. But second, we're talking about the difference between life and death. And so the idea that, and this is what I would see in court all the time too, especially around issues like addiction or not having shelter is - well, if we just punish you harder, then you won't be like this anymore. I'm - this person lives under a bridge and is fighting for their life. I don't know how much lower we can take this - there's no point in making people who are suffering suffer more. I think there's this idea that they'll just suffer more and then they'll just stop - suffer more and then they'll magically have money to move into an apartment that costs twice as much as it did five years ago? That's this weird, magical thinking that is really, I guess, hypnotic on some level, but it's really pervasive. And we can see that it hasn't worked, so I don't really understand clinging to those notions. But yeah, that's where we are. And it's incredibly - I saw a picture the other day of some bike officers at a sweep and there was 12 of them just in the picture - and if you think about median income for a sworn police officer for SPD, I think it's $163,000. So even just looking - if we just rounded to $150k - 12 officers at $150k in this picture - that's almost $2,000 an hour. And I'm sure that was only a small number of the officers that were there. So in addition to parks, in addition to all of the other services that may or may not be provided - we're spending gigantic amounts of money to make the problem worse. And that just doesn't make any sense. If you want people off the sidewalk - I do too, this is horrible. Yeah, and I think there is this idea that if you say you don't like sweeps, then you must love people living in the street. And I think it's the complete opposite - you can be in favor of the sweeps, but you are not in favor of getting people off the street. You are in favor of getting people off your street temporarily. So it really - but I think it's really hard for people when the narrative is, oh, they're refusing services - as if people are being offered an apartment and they're saying, you know what - I really like it outside in the cold and rain. Yeah, it's hard, it's hard, there's - the media around this issue is really hard, making it really difficult for a lot of people. [00:33:30] Crystal Fincher: I agree with that. Another thing that we saw this week was the City Attorney Office pivoting back to a strategy - another strategy that we've seen unveiled many times before - an initiative to target "high utilizers" of the criminal justice system. And so Ann Davison has identified - I think it was 118 individuals who they say are responsible, 118 "high utilizers" who "create a disproportionate impact on public safety in Seattle." And so there have been similar initiatives launched in 2012 and 2019. And you may have heard other terms like high-impact offenders, prolific offenders - but this is the same strategy that they're using there. These clearly were not successful programs in the past, but we are returning to them. And certainly this is something that has been championed by more conservative folks, by the "law and order crowd". And we have varying opinions with this - there's a PubliCola article that goes over this - but King County Department of Public Defense Director, Anita Khandelwal, views the initiative as just repetition of a failed strategy, saying, "Over the last decade, the city has repeatedly announced similarly named initiatives that would focus more law enforcement resources on those already most policed as a strategy for addressing public safety. This is a tired strategy of arresting, prosecuting and jailing. It's expensive and clearly ineffective." Lisa Daugaard, the co-executive director of the Public Defender Association and co-founder of the LEAD diversion program, who we've talked about before - most recently supportive of the failed Compassion Seattle initiative - sees potential for success, saying the initiative is built on a solid foundation - addressing the needs of "high utilizers" on a case-by-case basis. She believes Davison could avoid the errors of past crackdowns by pushing her counterparts in city and county governments to expand programs like LEAD to accommodate a new surge in clients. Also, Lisa admits that if LEAD took on all 118 of those people's clients, they would not have any more capacity for additional clients in the future. And again, it's important to note that it does not appear that Ann Davison has expressed at all that she has any interest in diverting these programs to LEAD, or any other diversion program that is focused on treating more root causes to prevent this recidivism and reoffense that has been a hallmark of just arresting and jailing people. We have to do different things in order to get a different result. What do you think about this? [00:36:47] Nicole Thomas-Kennedy: I think it's funny - the repackaging every year - Ann really sold herself as this - someone so opposite of what Pete Holmes did, but now she's - this is the same exact thing. And it really is just window dressing in my opinion. And the idea that we can spend more on law enforcement and it's going to help is so ridiculous. The one thing that the 118 people that were identified have in common is none of them have shelter. [00:37:28] Crystal Fincher: Literally none? [00:37:30] Nicole Thomas-Kennedy: Right. Yeah. No, none of them do. They're all unsheltered. And so instead of spending this astronomical amount of money on more law enforcement, why don't we put money into housing? Because also when you look at the breakdown of the repeat crimes, it's usually low-level shoplifts and trespassing, which is just sleeping under an awning. And so how much of that could we just remove by getting people sheltered? And that seems to be the last solution. It's just - try everything else, except for providing shelter and services to people, which are so - it's so much less expensive to house someone and give them wraparound services - wraparound services like onsite case management, medication management, things like that - is so much less expensive than putting them in jail. And it's stable, right? Because no matter how much you hate that someone sleeps under an awning or steals a sandwich, no matter how much you dislike that, the criminal justice system will always fail to provide a solution because it's a temporary thing. The maximum sentence on almost every misdemeanor is - well, the maximum sentence is either 90 days or 364 days. And with the way jail time works, everyone's going to be back out on the street in 9 months - that's the max. We cannot just think of jail as this permanent housing solution and permanent incapacitation solution for low-level misdemeanors that could be so - I don't want to say easily, because it's not easy - it's not getting people into affordable housing, we don't have any first of all. And it's not an easy solution, but it's the only one that actually makes any sense. And I think that when we talk about LEAD or any of these other things, we're just putting more money where it doesn't belong. I don't think lawyers and cops should not be dealing with these situations. That's not where the money should go. The money should go to service providers, to housing, to professionals that deal with addiction or mental health issues - that's where the money needs to go and those are prioritized the least, and it's all about arrests and incarceration. And again, it's just like the sweeps - you're kicking the can - there's nothing about that that's going to solve the problem. And so no matter how many times someone gets arrested for these things, they're going to get out of jail. If it doesn't escalate into a felony and we're talking about the people that are these "high utilizers", or a couple years ago repeat offenders or prolific offenders, we're talking about a lot of misdemeanors. We're not talking about people with a bunch of murders or something like that. [00:40:24] Crystal Fincher: Committing violent crime, assaults - that type of thing. [00:40:27] Nicole Thomas-Kennedy: Yeah, so if we're talking about this low-level stuff, there's - it's a completely inadequate response that sucks up all of the resources needed to actually combat the problem. [00:40:39] Crystal Fincher: It does, and it is a real challenge. We have done this before, it has not worked. We keep spending resources on what has been proven to not work, while simultaneously demanding data that proves that doing anything else will completely solve this issue, and create a nirvana and just be the end-all and be-all, when that is actually not the standard that we're applying with our humongous expenditure of resources. And just another reminder that jail is really expensive. It costs a whole lot of money. The criminal, just our entire criminal legal system is a really, really costly system. So we do have a lot of resources available - we continue to make choices to spend them on lawyers, on jailing people, on all of the people and buildings and apparatus to support that. And when we actually have tons of data that that does not fix this problem - in fact, it is likely to make it worse. And so if we are focused on data-driven approaches, that is what is clearly being indicated - what we have a long track record locally that we can draw on that proves that, but certainly also looking nationally - so much data to back that up. We will have to see. The last thing I wanted to talk about was a story that came out this week - David Kroman wrote about it in the Times - with Harrell postponing Seattle Police Department's plan to crack down on disorderly conduct at Third Avenue bus stops. The police department was looking at using the City's criminal code regulating disorderly conduct on buses - things like smoking, playing loud music, littering, drinking alcohol, "loud raucous and harassing behavior" and other conduct that is inconsistent with the intended use and purpose of the transit facility, transit station or transit vehicle. These have often not been cited. We will put it in the episode notes - there's actually an article I need to track down by a bus driver that I thought was really thoughtful. And it does seem like it is a fact that there is more disruptive activity happening on buses than there was before. This bus driver was thoughtful and like, yeah, this is happening - and also there are lots of reasons why it's happening, and there are lots of reasons why taking a criminalizing approach may not be helpful, why taking a different kind of the law and order thing or just kicking people off buses may not be helpful. It's a complicated thing to solve. We do need to acknowledge that driver safety is important, that rider safety is important, but also have the lens that if we want to address this problem - again, like the conversation we just had - simply arresting and jailing someone actually doesn't fix and solve the problem. A lot of times this is a result and a symptom of failures in so many other places of people not having access to mental health treatment that they need, of substance use disorder treatment that they need, public health problems that we actually don't have those facilities for. What is your view on this, and on Mayor Harrell's decision to actually step in and postpone it? [00:44:34] Nicole Thomas-Kennedy: I think it's interesting because again, like as we already talked about, it's not a solution. There's lots of reasons for why these things are happening and it's not because there's lax enforcement. First of all, there is enforcement on buses - I've had many bus cases myself and there is some degree of enforcement. Is that something that's going to - or has that been working? Is it going to continue to work? Is the scope of the problem in a lack of enforcement? And it doesn't really seem to be. Like you said, there's lots of reasons that these things are happening. And when we're talking about mental health, addiction, housing - all of these things - addressing these things are going to help with those issues, but that's not what we put money towards. We just keep throwing it at this system that is not working. It's interesting to me that it was walked back - they're putting that on pause. And I wonder is that because they realize - oh, that's actually not going to make that much of a difference - but there's also the fact that buses and bus shelters are not under the City's jurisdiction. Those are county issues, so maybe that was not known - I don't know - beforehand. But when the City talks about cracking down on things going on on the buses, they don't have the jurisdiction to do that. So that could be one reason why it got walked back as well. [00:46:10] Crystal Fincher: Yeah. That's really interesting because - very clearly talking about enforcing things on buses - which yes, there is a jurisdiction issue there - but it also looks like they were planning to take action within 25 feet of transit stops. Is that defined as - technically the stop facility - or is there, I guess that's a really technical and wonky question, but I could totally imagine, to your point, that there are jurisdictional questions. [00:46:49] Nicole Thomas-Kennedy: Yeah, I don't know what that - I have not looked that up. No, I think that's under City jurisdiction - that would be under City jurisdiction. Yeah. Just not anything on a bus - I don't think would be. But yeah, I would have to look that up, but I do think that would be the City still. It just depends - there's different parts of the City, like when - I won't go into jurisdictional issues, because no one wants to talk about those things for long periods of time - but they don't have as much control. Let me just say - they don't have as much control over things going on on a bus as they think they do. If someone's committing a felony on the bus, then SPD could potentially get involved, but it's still - it's going to be prosecuted by the county. And if it's misdemeanors, the misdemeanors on a bus are also going to be prosecuted by the county, because of county - see, I could go on, it could be a really long time. [00:47:47] Crystal Fincher: Well, I just learned something because I did not know that misdemeanors committed on a bus would be prosecuted by the county and not city. Very interesting - these discussions are very interesting. But I think overall we'll just keep our eyes peeled on it and continue to update on it. Just another quick update in terms of the concrete workers strike - there was talk this week about some of them potentially returning to some job sites as a show of good faith and an attempt to lessen the impact on the greater community. That seems to have had mixed results and a mixed outcome where some talked about returning, others didn't. One particular company looked like workers were willing to return and the company was unwilling to let them work again. But again, we've seen city and county leaders say that they want a quick resolution and that this is impacting various projects around the county, but also workers need fair conditions. And the workers are saying, hey, they're asking us - when you consider inflation - to take a hit to our salary, to healthcare benefits, and to our pension - it's across the board. And companies saying, but we're technically offering more money than we did before and so it should all be good. And still not doing much to come to the table and participating in this activity - hoping that public pressure just forces the workers back and they can just ride out the storm and do nothing, and hope that public pressure does some negotiating on their behalf. So we will continue to follow it - the county, we had talked about before, had tried to issue an RFP to other companies to try and work around this and have greater protections for unionization and worker conditions. And that - no one responded to that RFP actually, so we seem to just be in this position - and unless there is some specific call or pressure, it seems like - on the companies to negotiate in better faith and to move closer to the workers, it looks like we're going to be stuck in this position for quite some time. So we will continue to see how that unfolds. And again, I thank you for listening to Hacks & Wonks on today, Friday, March 18th, 2022. The producer of Hacks & Wonks is Lisl Stadler, assistant producer Shannon Cheng, with assistance from Emma Mudd. And our wonderful co-host today is criminal defense attorney, abolitionist and activist, Nicole Thomas-Kennedy. You can find Nicole on Twitter @ntkallday, and you should be following Nicole. You can find me on Twitter @finchfrii. Now you can follow Hacks & Wonks on iTunes, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcast - just type "Hacks and Wonks" into the search bar. Be sure to subscribe to get our Friday almost-live shows and our midweek show delivered to your podcast feed. If you like us, leave us a review wherever you listen to Hacks & Wonks. You can also get a full transcript of this episode and links to the resources referenced on the show at officialhacksandwonks.com and in the episode notes. Thanks for tuning in. Talk to you next time.
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