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According to the GTM Performance Gap Report, 98% of leaders say their GTM strategy is active, but only 10% see it driving results. So how can organizations bridge this gap and turn strategy into meaningful execution that drives outcomes? Riley Rogers: Hi, and welcome to the Winland Podcast. I’m your host, Riley Rogers. Join us as we dive into changing trends in the workplace and how to navigate them successfully. Here to discuss this topic is Becky Payne, Vice President of Sales and Success Digital Enablement at Sage. Thank you so much for joining us today. Becky, we are super excited to have you. As we kind of get things kicked off, I’d love it if you could just start by telling us a little bit about yourself, your background, and your role. Becky Payne: Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for having me on the Win-Win podcast today. A little bit about me and my background. I’ve been at Sage for seven years. I’ve been in corporate America for almost 17, and what I can tell you is. When you really get under the hood of go-to market, that’s really what makes an organization home, right? And so my experience and my background is a lot of understanding the channel, a lot of understanding how go-to market works in real life, which is a phrase I like to use quite a bit. As well as then understanding how that connects into our strategy as we think about where we need to drive transformation to get to our ultimate outcomes along the way. My role at Sage is very unique. I sit in our routes to revenue organization, and so I get the privilege of enabling our go-to-market teams to drive the revenue that they need to and the various motions and go-to-market aspects of what they do every day. RR: Amazing. First of all, I love the Routes to Revenue team. That is the best team name. Based on what you’ve said here, it seems like we’ve got a lot to dig into. As you mentioned, you’ve got a pretty extensive experience in both channel and sales enablement, so can you walk us through how you journeyed into sales enablement, and now that you’re here, how that background influences your strategy today? BP: Well, I think my experience is probably a little bit of a unique one, but I’m happy to share it. So prior to this role, I actually served as our chief of staff or business executive in the North America space, and prior to that actually for our global partners and Alliance leader. So I have spent a significant amount of time in both of those spaces, and what I was able to identify is that. We had the most brilliant pieces of technology out there. We had the most brilliant strategies out there, but we didn’t have a great way of connecting those into the workforce every day to get them to drive the outcomes that the business really needed to see. So coming into this role, first of all, I think I have the best role at Sage, so I love to brag about what my team does. But what we get to do is we get to connect in with solving real world problems. We get to work with these sellers and these channel partners every single day to be able to deliver incremental value into what they do directly in relation to the customers, but also then how we make them operationally efficient in their day-to-day activities to be able to execute on that go-to-market strategy. RR: It seems like we got the exact right person to talk about the strategy and execution gap. I think you mentioned everything that I hope to cover, so super excited to dig into how you’re making that all this happen. Before we get into kind of the fix it strategies, I’d love to start with where we are today. So as you’re looking across the go-to-market stage and seeing some of the obstacles that pretty much every team is encountering in their day-to-day, what are some of the top challenges to sales success that you’re seeing? And then how are you addressing those challenges for both internal reps and channel partners? BP: Well, I don’t know that we have enough time today to get into all the details, but, but when you really think about it, it’s common in a lot of places, right? Yes, we might be in the high tech world, but a lot of what we’re experiencing is what is happening across the globe today. So if you think about it, a lot of our, both internal sellers, as well as our channel executives and partners, actually are experiencing information overload. And quite honestly, they’re not able to make the understanding of where that information overload then meets the relevance. Impact driver for what they’re dealing with every day. You know, a lot of our colleagues are flooded with content tools, data galore. We have a very, very data rich infrastructure here, which is amazing. However, the challenge isn’t access. To that, right? It’s really the precision and the action that they’re taking on that. We also have a bit of a previous history in having some consistency gaps when you think about that, right? So both direct teams and our channel partner teams that are out there selling and they’re engaging with these customers. Until recently, we didn’t really have a global blueprint. We didn’t really have a ton of global sales place, so we had a, a large inconsistency in how things were showing up, which their format, how we were measuring those outcomes and those impacts couldn’t be aligned on the day-to-day basis. We also are seeing a ton of pace of change. I mean, every organization is experiencing not only the AI transformation and AI change, but overall as a team at Sage, we experienced a significant amount of transformation in the last 24 months. So we’re kind of embracing that as we see a lot of the challenges as we embrace the AI transformation that’s on our doorstep. RR: You called out a couple things that I think most teams are gonna resonate with. Information overload, crazy pace of change, consistency issues across your channels. There’s a lot of noise out there, which makes it really difficult to create enduring, trusted relationships that drive the results you’re looking for. So from your perspective, what are some of the key building blocks behind a strong, effective partnership with your channel teams? BP: All right. This is one that goes a little bit like near and dear to my heart, right? What we have such a great ecosystem around us at Sage and such a great channel partner team, both internally and with our partners directly, is the clarity of the purpose. And the incremental value that they add to Sage. A lot of times our managing director of North America, Mark Hickman, he references the one plus one equals three equation, and that’s generally how we feel with our partner ecosystem. We have the best partnerships and those best partnerships start when both sides are really clear on the outcome and the impact that we mutually drive together. And what we’re able to see is when we do that in a very cohesive, consistent, and aligned strategic way from the leaders all the way down to the front line, we’re able to see incremental value driven through with and to our partners as well as back into Sage when you think about that bigger ecosystem play. RR: Okay, so we’ve covered a little bit of the philosophy of alignment, outcome, shared outcomes. I’d like to talk a little bit about the execution piece, so how you’re bringing that strategy to life with technology. Can you walk us through how an enablement platform helps you better equip both the internal and the partner side of the house? BP: Yes, this is where I nerd out just slightly ’cause this is absolutely what I love. So when you think about it, it does absolutely start with a unified go-to-market motion, which we have been able to deliver over the past year with my partner in crime, Mark Jackson. But we also have now, literally a couple weeks ago, launched our global unified enablement platform, which happens to be Highspot. And what we were able to learn from that is when you take a consistent blueprint and go to market mission, right, and then you add that. The best platform that we can. Not only can we surface insights and leverage some of the AI technologies that Highspot is offering, but we also have an ability to have mutually shared documents, mutually, you know, shared Digital Sales Rooms. Things that allow us to go to market together in an effective way that we’ve never had before. We really feel like this is a game changing strategy for us and really is a way for us to bring our blueprint, right, and that kind of strategy to life in the day-to-day execution. Some of the genomics aspects of your platform bring visibility into some of these sales plays and other items that we’ve never had before. We can now go in and we can see what partners are engaging with us, who within those partners are engaging at a different way, allow us to provide reporting to senior leaders, but also at those frontline sellers. So they’re going into their weekly strategic team meetings with these partners with a strategy that’s very clear. They’ve got content they can reference. They have points of which they can then articulate what is or is not working in sales plays and other things, and we’ve never had that capability before. RR: Well, that’s absolutely what I love to hear that the platform is becoming such a game changer for you guys, and you’re already seeing that difference between before and after. One thing I’d like to double click into what you said there was that you’re starting to dig into Highspot AI capabilities. So can you share how you’re building some of those features into your enablement strategy and then where you’re eventually hoping to go with them? BP: The future’s endless, right? Endless possibilities is where we’re hoping to go. But if you think about something like Sage, we are a global business. We do, you know, a significant amount of business across the world, but we also have, oh gosh, 160 ish products across the world. So when you think about how vast our content repository is, when you think about how much information is actually out there for both our internal sellers as well as our channel teams, we really need to think about smart ways to drive the right visibility at the right time for that, thinking about how to get the right information in their hands in a very short amount of time. You know, the name of the game for us is how do you drive the adoption? Drive adoption in a way that makes it make sense for how they’re using it in their everyday world. So things like the, you know, copilot plus features that has been game changing in and of itself. We cannot wait to get started with some of the content agents. I have a very, very lean team, and when you think about that, investing in places that are operationally supporting things is not likely what we’re to make our next investment, right? This is all about how do I drive the efficiency of my team as well in the background to then enable all of these sellers and these channel partners to do more with what they have. RR: Yeah. As somebody who also sits in the content world and deals with all of the wonderful governance tasks that come with that, I have to say I’m quite excited too, right there with you. Can I ask what it is about the platform that makes you such an advocate and really love to know? BP: Okay. This is, um, I must confess, I love the platform for a couple of different reasons, to be honest with you. First and foremost, I feel like it is one of the most dynamic. Adaptable platforms that I’ve seen where we have ideas, where we have, you know, thoughts for improvements, where we wanna take advantage of beta programs that you guys are offering. Everything is on the table with you guys, and it feels like a true open partnership when we’re having these discussions. It’s one of the only consistent conversations that I’m in where you guys are asking, okay, what is your strategy, Becky? What is Sage’s strategy? What do we need to help you achieve? And that becomes a really meaningful way for us to adapt what our strategic objectives are. Via your platform, and then mutually come up with ways to help us drive that adoption and the success moving forward. And a little bit of a shameless plug, I think I have one of the best account teams at Highspot. If there’s ever a crazy idea that we have, if there’s ever a way for us to try to bring something to life so I can try to get the feedback directly from our sellers, that has been the best thing with Matthew and Ed and Omar. It just becomes a real dynamic partnership in seeing how much value we can mutually drive through this platform. RR: It always makes us so happy to hear that. It really does feel like a true partnership, and I will certainly have to take that feedback back to your team. I’m sure they’ll be happy to hear it, but I’m sure they already know just how successful you’re feeling because looking at the data, you and your teams have achieved a really impressive 87% recurring usage rate, which is huge. So what are some of your best practices for driving that adoption? BP: This one kind of goes back to basics, to be honest with you. So we really started with what matters most, right? So we decided as a strategic team, you know, working on the Sage account and then ultimately within the leadership team at Sage, what is it that we needed to drive value out of this platform, right? We went out to a global RFP when we did this to define our global enablement platform. And so we really stuck to what those outcomes were that we were trying to get. First and foremost, when you think about the basics of adoption is. Old school is best when it comes to this consistent drum beep of updates. Consistent visibility of metrics, consistent visibility of good wind stories. There is nothing better than that ground up swell when people start talking to their peers about how much better their life is because they’re using this platform or something like that. There’s also been a significant amount of leadership visibility. This was a major investment for Sage, and we wanted to make sure that our leaders all the way down, we’re seeing the goodness. We’ve gone to the kind of executive level to bring visibility into. What’s out there, what’s happening, and also getting them licenses. Kinda giving them some quizzes along the way, making sure that they’re using it, making sure that they’re seeing the value in what it can provide back to these sellers and these partners, as well as making sure that we’re doing. I’ll call it the flare around some of these announcements. You guys do a great job of consistently releasing features. We also then try to do a great job of bringing visibility into that so it keeps things fresh and new and users wanting to come back to the platform. RR: I think you’re 100% right to say, you know. Bring it back to basics because no matter the size of the organization you’re at, nine times out of 10, word of mouth is gonna do far more for you than even the most well-planned launch. That trust from your users is huge. So fantastic advice. In addition to adoption, I know that for leaders like yourself, it’s a great metric. It’s a good indicator, but it’s not the end all, be all that you’re looking at. So aside from adoption, what other metrics are you using to measure and optimize your enablement strategy? BP: Woo. This is a great one. Adoption is absolutely key, but we’re also looking at new ways to get feedback around the productivity, the efficiency, and honestly with this platform, the efficacy that it can deliver for our internal sellers through their go-to market motions. So things like, what does the revenue per head look like? Or, you know, how long are they spending? What’s the metrics it takes? For them to be able to get the content that they’re looking for. How many times are they researching, you know, to get the same outcome that they need. There’s also a lot to be said for when we’re in different offices or if different sellers and partners, you know, we have the chance to get in front of them. We’re often asking the question, you know, what do you like about it? What could you change? What would you do differently? And we’re really open to that feedback to help us refine where our strategy is going to go so that the end user feels heard. There is no better way to know where you need to go or what you need to do to drive the consumption overall and the kind of value outta that tool than hearing people that need to use it every single day, hear where they have some feedback and some improvements on. RR: So knowing you’re keeping that close pulse on your teams, how they’re engaging with the platform, the value they’re seeing, the things they’d like to see improve. I’d be curious to know kind of where things are today. So since you’ve launched Highspot, what key results have you achieved? What wins have you seen or. Any achievements that you’re particularly proud of you’d like to share? BP: Yes, absolutely. So again, I think the genomics aspect of this makes it incredibly valuable. We are also just weeks away from our sales kickoff for North America, and as part of that we are going to do an AI pitch perfect aspect with the AI role play that is in the platform. And so we will then be doing a leaderboard for the various segments. Across the business in North America to see who is already able to find the materials that they need for their AI pitch perfect aspect, but then also see how they engage with the AI agent to be able to do their role play and get a leaderboard going. So that’s what we’re probably most excited about for that one. And we kind of got the idea after the Cloudy Carly role play that you guys actually had at Spark. So we shamelessly borrowed a couple of those ideas and we’re really excited to see how we can bring that to life at Sko. RR: Amazing couple things there. One, thank you for taking the time to chat with us when you have SKO just around the corner. Appreciate that. And two, I will have to check back in with you because I would love to hear how that’s going. Last question for you to close this out. What is one piece of advice that you’d share for other leaders like yourself that are looking to close the gap between strategy and execution? BP: I think the biggest piece of advice would just be to get started. I think if we go back to the basics and we think in Inc. And you really think about where we need to take a transformation, a large organization like Sage, and you connect what they do every day into that strategy, it’s just to get started, right? I mean, there’s a thousand ways you can do things. Not all of them are gonna work out. But the longer you sit there and you look at it on paper, the longer it’s gonna take for you to have that impact. So when you get started and you get people excited and bought along on that journey of what you’re doing, magic can happen. RR: I think that’s perfect advice to close with. You know that don’t boil the ocean philosophy. Just get started. Something is better than nothing. Progress is better than planning on planning on planning. Perfect. Becky, thank you so much for joining us. It has been an absolute pleasure. BP: Thank you so much for having me. Can’t wait for the next one. RR: To our audience, thank you for listening to this episode of the Win-Win podcast. Be sure to tune in next time for our insights on how you can maximize enablement success with Highspot.

In late September, The Guardian launched its first major U.S. marketing campaign, featuring the tagline “the whole picture.” It's a bold statement of intent from the 204-year-old news organization aimed squarely at American audiences, which highlights The Guardian's brand of free, independent journalism.In this episode of The Big Impression, our hosts catch up with Sara Badler, chief advertising officer in North America for The Guardian U.S., to explore the vision behind the campaign, as well as some early takeaways since launch. Episode TranscriptPlease note, this transcript  may contain minor inconsistencies compared to the episode audio. Damian Fowler (00:00):I'm Damian Fowler.Ilyse Liffreing (00:01):And I'm Ilyse Liffreing.Damian Fowler (00:02):And welcome to this edition of The Big Impression.Ilyse Liffreing (00:08):Today we're joined by Sara Badler, the chief advertising Officer of The Guardian U.S. She's leading the charge behind the Guardian's first major US brand campaign called The Whole Picture, a bold effort to reintroduce one of the world's most trusted news organizations to American audiences.Damian Fowler (00:29):It's an ambitious moment for The Guardian with plans to expand coverage in New York and DC launch new US podcasts and connect with readers in fresh ways. The campaign is signaling a big step forward for the brand and for quality journalism in the digital age.Ilyse Liffreing (00:44):From that striking yellow billboard in Midtown Manhattan to new approaches in digital marketing and audience engagement, the Guardian is proving that serious journalism can still make a splash and drive real impact.Damian Fowler (00:58):Let's get into it.Sara Badler (01:01):The whole picture is really, it's The Guardian saying, which I think now is more important time than ever, is this idea that we are completely global perspective, we are independent and we have no paywall. Everyone can read us and we are focused and dedicated to journalism. And the whole picture really shows dedicated in every sort of way of telling the facts whether that is culturally, artistically with the World Cup coming upon us. And obviously The Guardian is a massive, one of the biggest soccer ducks in the world, if not the biggest, and really showing up in different ways the whole picture. And so I'm probably talking too much about this, but you see us on the subway, we did a live activation last week in the Meatpacking District and it's just really showing who we are and what we represent.Damian Fowler (01:59):Yeah, it is interesting. It's one of those things like the 1111 thing when you think about it and you notice it. Once I saw the campaign launch, then I saw it on the New York subway and it was everywhere. But I'd read that the editor of the Guardian, Catherine ER had said that this is the perfect time to reintroduce the Guardian to US audiences. And I know it's had great traction in the country for a while. Why is that? Why do you think it is the perfect time, especially in New York and metropolitan cities, why is it the right time?Sara Badler (02:34):I think now more than ever, we really want alternative news sources. And I say that mean the Guardian's been around for 200 years. We are not new by any means, but we are new-ish and more of a teenager here in the US and we have tons of obviously news outlets and a lot of them are owned and operated by billionaires. And there's all different things that are happening to them. There's consolidation, there's putting up more paywalls. And I think now more than ever, having something free and a truly global perspective is unique and something that we have.Ilyse Liffreing (03:11):And the campaign itself has such a striking centerpiece, the creative looking at it, it's bright yellow, there's words that are hidden. I'm curious if you can describe a little bit about that creative choice developed with Lucky Generals and can you walk us through basically the idea behind that concept?Sara Badler (03:32):It was not easy. I would say that it took our marketing and cross organizational functions a long time to come up with this with Lucky Generals to credit to them. They've been amazing and they've worked with us in the UK and now in the US and we also work with PhD as an agency, which also has been amazing. And it just took time of evolving of what our real story is and what we want people to get out of it. And I think the global perspective, free independent journalism that's factual with integrity and talking about culture in these key moments is really what we wanted people to understand. And here,Ilyse Liffreing (04:14):Yeah, looking at the media strategy a little bit, what was the plan for go to market and for reaching those target audiences?Sara Badler (04:24):And I think this is with every marketing campaign. I was actually on talking yesterday on a panel and saying there's no more, my marketing campaign is like a media plan. You've got a podcast, you've got activations, you've got events. So I think one thing to really think about or that we've thought about is how do we consistently beat a drum? And people recognize it throughout, not just one moment, but multiple moments throughout their day, whether it's on the subway through the activation and events. So that's something that we really focused on and I think we're doing that and we're continuing to do that, which I'm very excited about. We've done a few things. We did a fashion collaboration with Lingua Franca with the sweaters that we're really excited in the West Village going there after this and we're having a party tomorrow evening there. And then other things like we are going to be kicking off a residency at the net, which is super exciting with our editors. And so I think keeping the drum beat and showing up at these places is part of what we want to show. We truly are the whole picture.Damian Fowler (05:27):Before we get to the sort of channels you use, I just wanted to ask you about that event planning around media campaigns. Why is that an important part and piece of a marketing strategy these days? The idea of the building community around events?Sara Badler (05:44):Well, I think there's a couple things to that. I think obviously we're still coming out of COVID in the sense that people want to go out, people want events. I also think the cultural moments are just so important and especially for brands like ourselves who, for example, the soccer World Cup coming, which is every four years. This is a huge moment for us. And so I think planning around that and the sense of community I think is important in everything we do. Even here at Advertising Week, there's a sense of community. We live and breathe kind of the same sort of things in day in and day out. Exactly. So I feel like that's kind of something that we're trying to build and I think that if you feel a part of it, it's just so much stronger.Ilyse Liffreing (06:32):Speaking of the World Cup, can you say anything more about your plans there?Sara Badler (06:37):Yes. I mean, as I mentioned, we're one of the largest global soccer desks. We have a football weekly podcast that has been in the UK forever. I actually went to their event a few weeks ago in London and it was truly, when you talk about those cultural moments, it was one of those things that I've kind of heard about it. My husband's British and a huge football fan and listens to the podcast, but I never really understood the true fans was the strike on the tubes were happening of course while I was there. Just lucky, always, always. And then of course it's pouring down rain on and off when you think it's going to be beautiful and there's still fans from all over the world coming and it's not just for one team, it's for every team and for every. And so it's just like that is kind of the cultural moment. And so seeing that we're going to be launching that here in North America, which is super exciting.Damian Fowler (07:35):It's interesting. In the UK there's a very distinct sense of who reads the Guardian. I'm a guardian reader, I admit. And actually it was a Guardian contributor as well for a few years. But in the US do you have a strong sense of the Guardian readership? Is that galvanizing? Is that kind of coming together?Sara Badler (07:54):Yeah, I mean I think to your point of what was your media plan, and I am sure we had a podcast on with Vox that we did there and I think that we're still trying to figure it out, I would say because we don't have a paywall. We really think, and I truly do believe that everyone can be as a guardian audience at one point. We do tend to have different skews of older people that have identified in the past with The Guardian, things like that. But we're also starting to create, I think a buzz in younger generations and being out here and being on the subways and having these activations and the World Cup and other things happening. We're launching other podcasts and newsletters and things like that. We're really starting to grow audience across the board.Ilyse Liffreing (08:45):Are there any other channels that you're experimenting with?Sara Badler (08:49):Everything? We are launching video, podcast newsletters. I'm just thinking events like I mentioned the NED residency, which will kick off October 14th I want to say. So we're kind of trying to do everything. I think that's another thing as we evolve as publishers is that's just something that's kind of happening and we're really excited to be doing it.Damian Fowler (09:15):And I guess maybe touching on the programmatic strategy on the side of things, how has that grown as it were since you've taken this role?Sara Badler (09:27):Definitely. I am sure it was in the press. We were in the press with the trade desk as we launched the trade desk, which was kind of ironic obviously because I think we were, when I was at DOD Dash Meredith, we were the first publisher there and then coming to the Guardian able just do it again, but is we have really looked at our programmatic strategy and we actually kind of reorganized. And so the global programmatic strategy is actually coming out of the us which is very unique for The Guardian, which obviously everything is headquarters in the uk. And I think it really actually ties to our brand campaign of the whole picture and this global perspective is that we're really becoming one global unit. And I don't think it was like that before. I think it's been siphoned in different ways and I think now this is kind of the time. And so tying that back to the programmatic strategy is we're doing that as well. So we have one global programmatic team and strategy that we're super excited about and very good talent and we're just really excited to lean in as much as we can.Ilyse Liffreing (10:33):Okay, cool. So I know the campaign is so newSara Badler (10:36):Still,Ilyse Liffreing (10:36):But what kind of reaction have you seen so far?Sara Badler (10:40):It's really been positive. Not that I was expecting any negative, but it's just been a lot more vibrant than I even thought it would be to your point, like the neon yellow and just seeing the signs and on the subway and just constantly seeing them. We also had billboards in different places and even the meat packing district, the activation we did there, which thank God it didn't rain, but you could take off different of the wording and we had different social media people that were activating on it. It was just cool to see. And it's also cool to see the street traffic that it gets. Also, one other funny thing is we did not funny, but we did the Lingua Franco, we did the storefronts with the Guardian gear in it. And I took my daughters last week and I was so excited and one of the sweaters was sold out and the salesperson was like, I was like, who was it? I was naming colleagues. I was like, was it Jane? Was it? And they're like, no, someone came in and bought it. And I was like, yes. So I think those are the kinds of things also that have just made it really fun.Damian Fowler (11:50):From your perspective as a marketing chief, are there sort of KPIs that matter most for a campaign like this? Obviously sales brand lift, engagement, how do you look at it? And I know again, to Eli's point, it's kind of early days to say for this specific campaign, but in general, what are the KPIs that you kind of track on your dashboard?Sara Badler (12:14):We were just talking about this, we were like, how do you quantify? And obviously my background and life of programmatic, I'm like, give me some data.(12:25):And I think that it's hard for us. It's hard for us to say exactly what it looks like because I would say when you quantify it from how many RFPs are we getting or is our revenue growing or how we're seeing that, but it's really actually now having meetings with proactive ideas of things that we offer that we couldn't offer before. So I think tracking our global footprint and working with clients in a way that's way more collaborative rather than, oh, you're getting this RFP and it's like a circle of something that you're checking a box, giving it to us. You saw this, I think from a consumer perspective, just having presence in all of these places and we know we're growing our audiences and we can see that. We do look at the data and research all the time on this, and actually every Thursday we're figuring out what happened this week that shows that we're still progressing. And I think the other thing that we have to remember about marketing that's been different is it can't just be a one and done thing. You have to talk about this, it launched last week, now it's ad week. What are we doing? What are we doing next week? And then what are we doing in seven weeks that's going to keep this going.Ilyse Liffreing (13:40):On that note, how are you tying your normal content strategy to marketing strategy?Sara Badler (13:47):Is there a tie in? We collaborate all the time on things. I mean, even with the sweater collaboration, we have our voices and our editors wearing these sweaters and they truly are the voices. I'm just in the background trying to make sure brands are aware and audiences grow from it, but they're the voices of The Guardian and they are, I mean, they lead with integrity and independence and we have to look at that. So that's also very important and why it's so exciting for us.Damian Fowler (14:22):Now, I know the Guardian has a unique kind of monetization, it has a trust, but I wondered if you could sort of break down a little bit the Guardian stands, the GUARDIANIST stands. That's a complicated thing to say on monetization between the subscription and the ad supported and everything in between. Do you think about that and how do you approach thatSara Badler (14:45):Every day?(14:47):I think about it every day. It is, it's very unique. I would say we are so lucky to be owned by the Scott Trust because we look at things and we do things like this to the whole picture that are very thought out, methodical, programmatic, they make sense. We're able to do that because owned by a trust. So we're able to say, we don't need to do or worry about something that's happening in Q2. We can think about what's happening in the World Cup or the next one and what that looks like. So that's the trust and that's what we're very lucky to have from what you touched on with reader revenue is our readers really invest in us. And that's kind of something that we can say and we can say that to clients, we can say that to marketers, consumers, everyone. We can really genuinely say people are investing in us because they want to read us, they want us to do well, and that's how we need to put our story out there. And that's how I think we overlap from an advertising and our reader revenue perspective is ultimately we're just trying to grow these audiences and for people to hear our stories.Damian Fowler (15:53):There's something nice about that, asking readers to contribute what they want. That model works to build loyalty. ISara Badler (16:01):Expect completely. And that's something that I think it takes time. And that's why I'm saying I don't know our conversions for yesterday, but I do know that we are building somewhere that's exciting.Ilyse Liffreing (16:15):So you've had senior roles at Hearst, the New York Times and Doc Dash. What would you say are the biggest challenges even legacy publishers face when it comes to capturing readers today? Still?Sara Badler (16:29):I mean, we face all the challenges, soIlyse Liffreing (16:31):Many challenges.Sara Badler (16:32):And I feel like I would say it's pretty consistent to your point of being at a lot of publishers that have been around for a long time and huge brands. And I think some of the things that, the struggle is obviously one, there's a lot, there's so much media to consume. It's like how do you make yourself unique and different? And in that way it's also, there's been a lot of different acquisitions and things that have happened, so it's kind of like how do you make people aware of who your true brand is and where it sits. I think those are, it also is the challenge of the times, meaning the actual time of happening where when I was at Daash and we were living through COVID was a very different time than what we're doing now. I would not suggest live events at that point, but then here we are and this is what we're doing. I would say at the New York Times, it was a place, it was right when elections were happening when I was there as well. And so I think it just, it's really, everyone's got their challenges, but everyone also has placed to their strengths and I think that's really important for publishing.Ilyse Liffreing (17:46):Yeah. Are there any innovations, maybe particularly in digital advertising that you see as giving you optimism for even funding quality journalism in the future?Sara Badler (17:59):I mean, this campaign has given me a lot of optimism. The whole picture has been amazing to see and also because I think it makes so much sense, which is really nice. I think that we also live, I live in a world where everything's just completely over complicated and just what it means is independent, factual and free. That's really, it just makes sense. And I think things like that show optimism in what's going on.Damian Fowler (18:29):Yeah, we talked there on innovation, which means we have to ask you a little bit about ai and that has been framed in some ways as a threat, but also an ally. Where do you stand on that?Sara Badler (18:44):I think we're in the middle, and that's probably the most boring answer ever. But it's good, it's fine. I mean, we are actively using it and try and figure out how and where it fits in different places, but it does not change how we report and our journalism.Ilyse Liffreing (19:08):Good to hear, good to hear. Now some quickfire questions for you. Let's do it. What do you think is one thing the ad market desperately needs but doesn'tSara Badler (19:19):Have? Oh my God, we have so much of everything. The ad market desperately needs maybe some better organization of what our products are and the different types would be somethingIlyse Liffreing (19:36):Or streamlined,Sara Badler (19:37):A different streamlined approach would be somethingDamian Fowler (19:42):Less fragmentation perhaps. I dunno. Yeah, I dunno. I put words in your mouth.Sara Badler (19:47):I think one thing that publishers need is really to work better together to figure out what the future holds for them.Damian Fowler (19:57):And you may have answered this already in the podcast, but a publisher you secretly admire for how they're playing the game.Sara Badler (20:04):I mean, I think the New York Times has been brilliant in just how they've worked through a lot of different acquisitions they've made and things like that has been great to see. But I think all publishers have done a really great, the best that it's been a tough market and I think that even from a programmatic perspective and everything, we are just trying to do our best to get through it and also understand kind of what the world will look like quarter to quarter, which is very different. And it's not those days where you could be, I remember in past lives you'd be like year over year last year at this time and you're like, well, last year at this time was such a different,Damian Fowler (20:47):Such point youSara Badler (20:48):Can't even compare anymore. I know. Yeah. So it's like, well last year this happened. And so I think that it's a tough thing for publishers to do.Ilyse Liffreing (20:59):What would you say is the boldest marketing risk you've ever taken?Sara Badler (21:06):That's a great question. I would say just because, just to go back to also the whole picture, I think this whole thing we've done also the collaboration with Lingua franca and the sweaters, we didn't know how people would react or the world would react or if they would react, but I think that because it's something you're just putting out there, we've never done anything in the fashion world at all. And I think that was kind of something that probably not the most scary but the most scary to me this week of doing that. I was like, I don't know if this is going to work. And we don't know how people react. And you want only positive things to come out, especially after you're doing such a big collaboration.Ilyse Liffreing (21:53):Nice marketing every week is different, isn't it? Yeah. Just depends on the day. Yeah. IDamian Fowler (21:58):Guess here's the last question. If you could steal one idea from another industry and bring it into publishing, what would that be?Sara Badler (22:07):Sorry,Damian Fowler (22:08):These are hard questions.Sara Badler (22:09):No idea. Well, it's funny, I was thinking, I was like fashion week, we just talked about fashion, but now we're in advertising week. So they've definitely done that. I would say, I dunno, I guess we don't have a Super Bowl or anything like that. That would be good. I think we've got enough stuff really. We should stop. Yeah, we should. I'm thinking there's South by there's can we do so many things? And I think that's one thing from my perspective that again, with the whole picture that we're really trying to do is show up in the right way where it matters. And if you try to be everywhere or nowhere, and I think that's really important for us to think about. And so trying to do something that you haven't done yet, you should definitely do, but it should feel natural.Ilyse Liffreing (22:55):Sara, we're recording an advertising week and I'm curious if you have a major takeaway that you could share with us.Sara Badler (23:03):Okay, so I mentioned day two, we're on day two and I think it does feel bigger than it's ever been or busier for sure. And it feels like there's so many things going on. The other thing though is I think because there are so many of these things that it also feels like in this world right now, we're doing a lot of in-house things, if that makes sense. We have tons of our team in town this week. I know that when I talk to clients or agencies, they're doing a lot of internal stuff. So it feels like that's a big something that's changed a little bit.Ilyse Liffreing (23:40):I would say there's definitely a lot more people I think this week then than I remember in years past at least.Sara Badler (23:46):But even every time I talk to someone, they're like, well, we have a lot of internal stuff going on. And I think that there's a lot going on. So I think that that's also something that is happening that maybe didn't happen as often.Damian Fowler (24:05):And that's it for this edition of The Big Impression.Ilyse Liffreing (24:07):This show is produced by Molten Hart. Our theme is by Love and caliber, and our associate producer is Sydney Cairns.Damian Fowler (24:14):And remember,Sara Badler (24:15):We have tons of, obviously news outlets and a lot of them are owned and operated by billionaires, and there's all different things that are happening to them. There's consolidation, there's putting up more paywalls. And I think now more than ever, having something free and a truly global perspective is unique and something that we have.Damian Fowler (24:37):I'm DamianSara Badler (24:37):And I'm Ilyse, and we'll see you next time. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Office of Personnel Management is eyeing July 4, 2027 to fully launch a new government wide Human Resources system. In a new request for proposals released Friday, OPM details a much more specific plan of action to modernize and centralize 119 distinct core federal human resources systems across the government. For more on the new RFP and OPMs plans. Federal News Network Executive Editor Jason Miller joins me with analysis and details. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Here's a statistic that will shock you: According to SBA data, there are 34.7 million small businesses in the United States. Yet only 78,677 companies—just 0.23%—won federal contracts in FY24. That's less than a quarter of one percent competing for $774 billion in annual contract opportunities.Why is this number so low? It's not because the opportunity is small. It's because most businesses don't understand how the system actually works.In this episode, I'm breaking down the three rules of SAM that nobody talks about—the realities that separate the 0.23% who win from the 99.77% who struggle.Rule #1: Don't Use SAM (Yet)Before you even register on the System for Award Management, you need to validate that the government actually buys what you sell. I'll show you how to use USAspending to research federal buying patterns and save yourself months of wasted effort.I'll also address a critical warning: the "middleman" or "broker" model being promoted on social media. Federal Acquisition Regulation 52.219-14 requires small business prime contractors to perform at least 50% of services work themselves. Without past performance and in-house capabilities, this model fails—both legally and practically.Rule #2: Know Who Buys What You Sell—And HowIt's not enough to know that agencies buy what you sell. You need to understand which offices, what procurement methods they use (GSA Schedules, GWACs, IDIQs), and what barriers to entry exist. Some contract vehicles take years to access.Rule #3: Always Start with Sources SoughtHere's what most people miss: there's an entire phase of contracting that happens before the solicitation is ever published. It's called the market research phase, and this is where contracts are actually won.When agencies post Sources Sought notices or Requests for Information, they're inviting you to shape requirements, demonstrate capabilities, and build relationships. The companies that win consistently are the ones who engage 6-8 months before the RFP drops—attending meetings, providing demonstrations, and establishing trust with program offices.Writing "cold" proposals to solicitations you found online? That's starting at the end. Your competitors started at the beginning.I'll explain why the system isn't rigged—it's just that most people don't know about the pre-solicitation engagement phase where the real work happens.Industry experience suggests it takes 12-24 months to win your first federal contract, and the SBA reports that some businesses spend $80,000 to $130,000 in the process. This is a long-term strategy, not a quick win. But for businesses with proven capabilities and the patience to build properly, federal contracting provides stable, recurring revenue at scale.Ready to Learn More?If you want to learn how to use government contracting to win contracts, start a consulting business, or launch a career as an account executive, visit govclose.com. We offer comprehensive training and implementation programs to help you navigate the federal marketplace successfully.Rick Howard is a former Air Force acquisition officer who managed over $82 billion in defense contracts. He founded GovClose in 2019 to help companies and consultants succeed in the federal marketplace.

The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services appears to be quietly considering Palantir to support its yearslong efforts to build a national provider directory for health care providers and patients across the country. Federal spending records show Palantir to be one of four recipients to receive awards from the Department of Health and Human Services and CMS containing the phrase “national provider directory” and “proof of concept.” The four separate contracts, made public Sept. 30, award $1 to each company and are set to expire Nov. 13. Two sources familiar with the efforts told FedScoop these contracts are for a prototype product with CMS. One source confirmed the prototype is for the agency's national provider directory, an effort the agency has been exploring for years. CMS has suggested the directory could serve as a centralized data hub for health care provider and facility information nationwide. The move marks the latest sign of civilian agencies' growing interest in Palantir, which offers extensive data integration and analytics capabilities. The Department of Energy is requesting proposals for the buildout and maintenance of AI data centers and energy generation infrastructure in and around Oak Ridge National Laboratory. In an RFP published last week, the national lab's site and environmental management offices said they are seeking proposals from entities interested in entering into long-term leases in Oak Ridge, Tenn. The work on those DOE sites would include “designing, financing, permitting, developing, constructing, installing, owning, maintaining, operating, and decommissioning AI data center and/or energy generation infrastructure,” per the posting. For those sites, Oak Ridge is specifically seeking construction of data center facilities with specialized computing equipment, cooling facilities, infrastructure for energy supply, transmission and storage, and other related equipment and facilities. The DOE said entities responding to the RFP could be private-sector companies with experience in the development and operation of AI data centers, advanced computing facilities or energy storage. The Daily Scoop Podcast is available every Monday-Friday afternoon. If you want to hear more of the latest from Washington, subscribe to The Daily Scoop Podcast  on Apple Podcasts, Soundcloud, Spotify and YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg1knQ7TQ_E .entry-img img{ display:none !important; } .single .hentry .entry-img{ display:none !important; } https://open.spotify.com/episode/68OnCL6OYQml4L6bu1Wejm Artificial Intelligence continues to dominate finance discussions, but for many CFOs, the real challenge isn't understanding the technology—it's knowing where to start. In this episode, host Kevin Appleby welcomes back Hannah Munro, Managing Director of ITAS Solutions and host of the CFO 4.0 Podcast, to unpack the hype surrounding AI and offer clear, practical steps for finance leaders ready to take action. Hannah shares first-hand insights from her work helping finance teams implement technology-driven transformations, explaining why success depends less on the AI tools themselves and more on simplifying processes, standardizing data, and fostering cultural change. The conversation draws a clear distinction between technology implementation and true transformation—and why CFOs must master both to realise measurable ROI from new systems. As AI continues to evolve at an unprecedented pace, Hannah and Kevin explore how finance leaders can stay agile, focus on data quality, and ensure their organizations are prepared for the next generation of AI-enabled finance. From managing expectations to defining tangible outcomes, this episode is an essential listen for CFOs looking to move beyond buzzwords and deliver meaningful digital transformation. Key topics covered: The difference between AI-enabled tools and building AI from scratch—and why most finance teams are already using AI without realising it. Why the biggest implementation risks aren't technical but cultural and process-related. How to distinguish transformation from implementation—and why most projects should involve both. The importance of defining measurable outcomes before investing in technology. Why simplification, standardisation, and clean data are the foundations for any successful AI adoption. How CFOs can future-proof their finance function by focusing on integration, agility, and benefit-driven technology selection. Links Hannah Munro on LinkedIn Kevin Appleby on LinkedIn GrowCFO Mentoring Timestamps 01:00 Why AI isn't new—and how finance teams are already using it unknowingly 03:25 Implementation vs. transformation: the fundamental question every CFO must ask 07:30 Why traditional RFP processes often fail in fast-changing tech environments 10:45 The hidden cost of customisation and how to challenge unnecessary complexity 16:15 Measuring the true value and ROI of finance technology projects 19:20 Why every tech implementation should also be a transformation initiative 27:20 Using psychology and “nudging” principles to drive behavioural change in transformation 33:30 Preparing for AI: simplify processes, integrate systems, and clean your data 38:40 The limits of AI: understanding data quality, context, and validation 44:30 Looking ahead—how AI, automation, and integration will redefine the finance function Find out more about GrowCFO If you enjoyed this podcast, you can subscribe to the GrowCFO Show with your favorite podcast app. The GrowCFO show is listed in the Apple podcast directory, Spotify and many others. Why not subscribe there today? That way, you never miss an episode. GrowCFO is a great place to extend your professional network. Join GrowCFO as a free member today and participate in our regular networking events and webinars. Premium members can also access our extensive training center and CFO Digital Toolkit. You can enroll in our flagship Future CFO or Finance Leader programs here. You can find out more and join today at growcfo.net

Send us a textJoin hosts Alex Sarlin and Ben Kornell with guest Anna Edwards of Whiteboard Advisors as they unpack a packed week in education technology. From sweeping cell phone bans to AI reshaping classrooms and colleges, and celebrate a major milestone of 400 episodes of EdTech Insiders!✨ Episode Highlights:[00:00:00] States expand K–12 phone bans over mental health[00:04:29] Federal shutdown hits Title I, Head Start, ED[00:06:28] ICE detains superintendent, raising compliance fears[00:13:25] Why phone bans need digital-literacy support[00:19:25] Higher ed faces international enrollment and funding drops[00:28:41] Harvard grade inflation reignites rigor debate[00:32:32] States pilot graduate profiles and competency shifts[00:38:08] ChatGPT adds apps; Coursera leads edtech uses[00:46:20] Key state and district policy trendsPlus, special guests: [00:46:20] Jim Beasley, Co-founder & Technology Director and Maurie Beasley, Co-founder & Educator, AIEDPro, on AI PD and classroom pilots. [01:16:32] Stacey Brook, Founder & Chief Advisor, College Essay Advisors on College EssAI and ethical AI for essays. 

AI is changing everything — even janitorial and facility service businesses.In this episode, Andrew Rice, Founder of UX Media House, joins host James Harper to break down how AI tools are revolutionizing websites, marketing, and operations for the cleaning industry.From building lead-generating websites to automating RFP follow-ups, Andrew shares how business owners can turn technology into a growth engine — without losing the human touch.

This week on The Transfix Take, Jenni Ruiz and market expert Justin Maze break down the latest trends as Q4 2025 kicks off. Rates are holding steady, but regional shifts and a few policy curveballs are keeping things interesting. Here's what's moving the market: • A return to seasonal norms after weeks of volatility • Flatbed load-to-truck ratios up 8.4%, signaling tightening in project and construction freight • A nor'easter and West Coast storms bringing rain, wind, and early snow to key markets • West Coast lanes heating up while the Southeast and Coastal regions cool off • A continued slow decline in the South, while the Midwest holds steady • The ongoing impact of non-domicile CDL regulations — and why Maze says the real effects are still months away Plus, Jenni gives a shoutout to Freightwaves' new WHAT THE TRUCK?!? host, Malcolm Harris, and recaps Carly Gunby's appearance on the show to talk RFP strategies and how to beat AI fatigue in freight. To watch Carly's appearance on WHAT THE TRUCK?!? click here: https://youtu.be/F-tYNwc6zFs?si=UGUqk12djOUyxrYA This and more on The Transfix Take! -- Disclaimer: All views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Transfix, Inc. or any parent companies or affiliates or the companies with which the participants are affiliated, and may have been previously disseminated by them. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are based upon information considered reliable, but neither Transfix, Inc. nor its affiliates, nor the companies with which such participants are affiliated, warrant its completeness or accuracy, and it should not be relied upon as such. All such views and opinions are subject to change.

It's a marvelous Monday on What The Truck?!? with your host Malcolm Harris, bringing you the latest on trends, talent, and technology shaking up the freight world. In today's episode: Tim Crawford, CEO of Tenstreet, breaks down Q3 driver hiring and retention data — including why drivers are staying put, what's next for recruiting, and how carriers can weather the storm in a tight market.  Carly Gumby, VP of Revenue at Transfix, joins to talk about pricing automation, AI fatigue, and how brokers can win big this RFP season by using data-driven strategies that actually work. Plus: Global headlines on rising tariffs, Canada Post strikes, CH Robinson's latest tech launch, and what it all means for carriers and shippers. How AI and automation can streamline operations without losing the human touch. Why relationships still drive success — even in an increasingly digital freight world. ⁠Watch on YouTube⁠ ⁠Visit our sponsor⁠ ⁠Subscribe to the WTT newsletter⁠ ⁠Apple Podcasts⁠ ⁠Spotify⁠ ⁠More FreightWaves Podcasts⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's a marvelous Monday on What The Truck?!? with your host Malcolm Harris, bringing you the latest on trends, talent, and technology shaking up the freight world. In today's episode: Tim Crawford, CEO of Tenstreet, breaks down Q3 driver hiring and retention data — including why drivers are staying put, what's next for recruiting, and how carriers can weather the storm in a tight market.  Carly Gumby, VP of Revenue at Transfix, joins to talk about pricing automation, AI fatigue, and how brokers can win big this RFP season by using data-driven strategies that actually work. Plus: Global headlines on rising tariffs, Canada Post strikes, CH Robinson's latest tech launch, and what it all means for carriers and shippers. How AI and automation can streamline operations without losing the human touch. Why relationships still drive success — even in an increasingly digital freight world. Watch on YouTube Visit our sponsor Subscribe to the WTT newsletter Apple Podcasts Spotify More FreightWaves Podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The 3 Everyday Habits That Win Trust Sales rises or falls on trust. As of 2025—post-pandemic, hybrid, and time-poor—buyers have less patience for fluffy rapport and more appetite for authentic, repeatable behaviours. This guide turns three classic human-relations principles into practical sales moves you can use today: be genuinely interested, smile first, and use people's names naturally. What's the fastest way to build trust with time-poor buyers in 2025? Lead with curiosity, not a pitch. Ask about their context before your product, and mirror back what you heard in concrete terms (KPIs, deadlines, constraints). This converts a transactional meeting into a partnership from minute one. In Japan, the US, and Europe alike, executives are bandwidth-constrained; they remember the seller who reduces cognitive load. In enterprise deals, curiosity surfaces hidden stakeholders and post-purchase risks. In SMEs and startups, it reveals cash-flow windows and procurement shortcuts. Curiosity isn't manipulation; buyers detect feigned interest instantly. Done right, it creates common ground that makes every later ask easier. Start every meeting with one “business-human” question (e.g., “What must be true by quarter-end for this to be a win?”). Mini-summary: Curiosity first → faster trust → smoother deals. Do now: Prepare three context questions per persona. How do I show genuine interest without going off-topic? Be human, but keep it business-linked. Tie personal context to business impact; keep it relevant, short, and anchored in their role, industry, and timeline. Ask about post-purchase adoption (“What would success look like for your users in the first 30 days?”), operational realities (e.g., Japan-specific compliance), and leadership pressures (“What will your CFO scrutinise most this quarter?”). Compare contexts—APAC vs EU privacy, B2B vs consumer rollout, startup urgency vs multinational governance. Document what you learn and open the next meeting by recapping their words—snippet-ready proof you listened. Mini-summary: Human questions, business purpose. Do now: Build a one-page “interest map” per account. Does smiling still matter in serious, high-stakes meetings? Smile first to set the social temperature, then match the room. Under deadline pressure, many sellers present a tense “serious face” that raises defensiveness. A genuine, early smile lowers friction and signals “I'm safe to talk to,” especially in first meetings or escalations. In Japan's formal settings, a measured smile plus a slight nod communicates respect and openness; in the US, a warmer smile can accelerate rapport. The key is timing: smile as you greet, then calibrate to the buyer's style within seconds. The goal isn't cheeriness; it's creating a cooperative atmosphere where tough topics (risk, price, delivery dates) can be discussed without posturing. Mini-summary: Smile first, calibrate fast. Do now: Add “reset face → greet with smile” to your pre-meeting checklist. How can using names increase influence without sounding fake? Use names sparingly at moments of emphasis. Offer your own name first, confirm pronunciation, then use theirs to mark alignment and commitment—never as filler. In group settings with multiple stakeholders, sketch a quick seating map to avoid missteps later. This habit personalises without pandering and helps you track the real decision network behind procurement. Close clearly: “Aiko-san, we'll send the red-lined MSA by Friday.” Mini-summary: Names for signal, not filler. Do now: Practise name recall and pronunciation before the meeting. What's the cross-market playbook (Japan vs US vs Europe) for relationship momentum? Universal habits, local nuance. The same three behaviours—interest, smile, names—work everywhere, but settings differ. In Japan, invest more time upfront on context and internal harmony; be precise with honorifics and follow through meticulously. In the US, move faster to value articulation and next steps, keeping warmth high. In Europe, expect variance (Nordics vs DACH vs Southern Europe) in decision cadence and consensus. Align to company type: startups reward speed and flexibility; multinationals reward consistency and risk management. Hybrid selling post-2020 demands tighter summaries and clearer asynchronous follow-ups. Mini-summary: Universal habits, local settings. Do now: Add a “market nuance” line to every call plan. How do I turn these habits into a repeatable system my team can use? System beats intention. Bake the habits into templates, rituals, and measurable checkpoints. Create a pre-call sheet with (1) three curiosity questions, (2) a reminder to smile on entry, (3) stakeholder names and pronunciations, (4) a 90-second recap script for follow-ups. In your CRM, add fields for “buyer language used,” “stakeholder map,” and “adoption risk notes.” In weekly pipeline reviews, inspect not just stages but relationship signals: trust markers logged, name usage at key moments, and recap emails sent within 24 hours. Train using short, scenario-based drills (enterprise renewal, startup pilot, public-sector RFP). Mini-summary: Process it so it happens. Do now: Standardise a one-page “relationship checklist.” Final wrap Make the buyer—the human—the centre of the conversation. Start with interest, open with a smile, and use names with intent. Then systemise the behaviours so they happen every time. When products look similar, these micro-habits become the differentiator. About the author Dr. Greg Story, Ph.D. in Japanese Decision-Making, is President of Dale Carnegie Tokyo Training and Adjunct Professor at Griffith University. He is a two-time winner of the Dale Carnegie “One Carnegie Award” (2018, 2021) and recipient of the Griffith University Business School Outstanding Alumnus Award (2012). As a Dale Carnegie Master Trainer, Greg is certified to deliver globally across all leadership, communication, sales, and presentation programs, including Leadership Training for Results. He has written several books, including three best-sellers — Japan Business Mastery, Japan Sales Mastery, and Japan Presentations Mastery — along with Japan Leadership Mastery and How to Stop Wasting Money on Training. His works have been translated into Japanese, including ザ営業, プレゼンの達人, トレーニングでお金を無駄にするのはやめましょう, and 現代版「人を動かす」リーダー. Greg also publishes daily business insights on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter, and hosts six weekly podcasts. On YouTube, he produces The Cutting Edge Japan Business Show, Japan Business Mastery, and Japan's Top Business Interviews.

In this episode, I spoke with Edouard Reinach, CEO & co-founder of Trampoline AI. We explore their journey, focused on revolutionizing the RFP response process using AI. The discussion covers the genesis of the company, challenges faced in the initial stages, and the pivotal switch to focusing on RFPs. Edouard provides insights into how their platform streamlines complex RFP responses, making the process faster and more efficient, particularly for remote and distributed teams. He highlighted the technology's benefits, like saving significant time and enhancing the quality of responses. The conversation also delves into the broader implications of AI in enterprise settings, the cultural aspects of building an AI-native organization, and the future trajectory of Trampoline.

Episode 86 of the Astonishing Healthcare podcast focuses on several pharmacy and health plan member service-related topics with Lisa Ellerhorst (Sr. Director, Customer Care Operations) and Sonia Pettis (Manager, Customer Care Operations)! Lisa and Sonia have been with Judi Health (Capital Rx) since 2020 and have helped Will Tafoya develop our unique contact center model from the ground up. Building on Episode 34 - Customer Care in Healthcare: Setting a Higher Bar, and the questions plan sponsors can ask during the RFP process (Episode 84), we discuss:Several of the most frequent reasons plan members call and how those questions are handled, including switching a prescription from retail to mail and vice versa, prior authorizations for GLP-1s, and more. How to navigate transitions and focus on quality care (over speed).What it takes to maintain a high level of customer satisfaction (99%) while handling a 50% spike in call volume year-over-year.The communication strategy used to educate members and help them navigate new offerings effectively.The role of AI and how agentic AI can support member care and free up our skilled, PTCB-certified reps to handle more complex issues.Future-proofing the service model and preparing for the 2026 welcome season.Related ContentPharmacy Benefits 101: Building an Award-Winning Call Center from ScratchWatch: Are Your Prior Authorizations Actually Working?AH017 - Pharmacy Benefits 101: Prior AuthorizationHow employers can take back control of unnecessary pharmacy spendingCapital Rx's Customer Care Team Wins 5 Stevie® Awards for Customer ServiceFor more information about Capital Rx and this episode, please visit Judi Health - Insights.

Send us a textJoin hosts Alex Sarlin and Matt Tower as they break down the biggest headlines shaping the future of education technology. From OpenAI's new video model to major EdTech funding rounds and the rise of curriculum-informed AI.✨ Episode Highlights[00:03:56] EdTech Week 2025 preview at Columbia University featuring OpenAI's education keynote.[00:06:50] SETDA report: AI overtakes cybersecurity as top K–12 tech priority.[00:09:05] OpenAI's Sora 2 video model brings lifelike multimodal AI to education.[00:14:10] Rise of AI actors like “Tilly Norwood” underscores new media literacy concerns.[00:18:30] Code.org launches Hour of AI to expand AI literacy in schools.[00:24:40] Debate: Is “learn to code” still essential in the AI age?[00:29:30] Microsoft Copilot adds Study Mode with shareable learning tools.[00:32:00] Anthology (Blackboard) bankruptcy exposes failed 2021 PE merger.[00:38:10] Funding: LingoKids raises $120M; Outsmart (ex-Duolingo) raises $40M.[00:43:50] National test score slump fuels “End of Thinking” education debate.[00:46:10] Calls for clear new visions of learning in the AI era.Plus, special guests:[00:53:00] Sari Factor, Vice Chair & Chief Strategy Officer, and Jason Fournier, VP of Product Management for AI & Data at Imagine Learning, on curriculum-informed AI.[01:04:00] Caleb Hicks, CEO & Co-founder of SchoolAI, on AI tutors and personalized learning.

Send us a textVanessa Castañeda Gill, CEO and Co-Founder of Social Cipher and Lucy Stevens, Co-Founder and Creative Director of Social Cipher, lead a majority-neurodivergent team creating social-emotional learning video games that help neurodivergent youth build self-understanding and connections; inspired by Vanessa's experiences as an autistic/ADHD Latina, their games and curriculum are now used in 200+ schools and therapy centers across 8 countries, earning recognition from Forbes 30 Under 30, MIT Solve, and the LEGO Foundation.

In this episode, Jack Cochran and Matthew James are joined by Rob Bruce, a presales leader at Syndigo with 20 years of experience, to discuss an innovative approach to presales operations: the Pursuit Desk. Rob shares how Syndigo has built a dedicated "concierge team" that handles RFPs, security questionnaires, reference coordination, and other time-consuming tasks, freeing solutions engineers to focus on discovery, solutioning, and building customer relationships. The conversation explores how to operate at the "top of your license," the role of AI in scaling pursuit operations, and practical advice for championing similar initiatives at your organization. Thank you to Elvance for sponsoring this episode: https://elvance.io Follow Us Connect with Jack Cochran: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackcochran/ Connect with Matthew James: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewyoungjames/ Connect with Rob Bruce: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbruce/ Links and Resources Mentioned Join Presales Collective Slack: https://www.presalescollective.com/slack Book: "Selling is Hard, Buying is Harder" by Garen Hess Timestamps 00:00 Welcome 04:29 What is a Presales Concierge 11:18 Presales culture 14:00 Working at the top of your diploma 17:10 How do you justify this 21:38 As focused as an F1 team 23:32 AI and the Pursuit Desk Key Topics Covered The Pursuit Desk Concept Functions as a presales concierge handling non-customer-facing tasks Manages RFPs, InfoSec documents, NDAs, reference coordination Creates centralized control over messaging and responses Operates on a global scale with cultural sensitivity Operating at the Top of Your License Focus on discovery, creative thinking, empathetic listening, and presenting solutions Eliminate time spent on administrative tasks that don't require SE expertise Reduce context switching and multitasking to maintain flow Maximize value delivery to customers and the organization Building the Business Case Find an executive sponsor to champion the initiative Measure impact through deal win rates and velocity Consider creative budget reallocation (travel budgets, etc.) Calculate ROI based on SE productivity and reduced burnout The Role of AI in Pursuit Operations AI handles first-pass RFP responses (80% completion) Pursuit desk personalizes and adds empathy (final 20%) Machine learning analyzes past deals for pattern recognition Go/no-go scorecards based on historical data Enables scaling without proportional headcount increases Presales Culture and Values Building trust through technical expertise and genuine personality Being a "chameleon" who adapts to different buyer needs Creating an environment where people feel welcomed and valued Mentorship and knowledge sharing across teams Preventing Burnout Eliminating nights and weekends spent on RFPs Reducing stress through better task distribution Enabling SEs to focus on work they're passionate about Creating sustainable workloads that retain top talent Measuring Success Tracking time spent on each RFP or pursuit activity Correlating effort to win-loss rates Building audit trails for continuous improvement Creating dashboards for data-driven decision making  

Send us a textJanak Panchal and Rishan Dutia are cofounders of CoGuide, an AI classroom assistant that plans lessons and runs live discussions in 30+ languages. Janak, a former assistant guide with 250+ socratic discussions sessions within the Acton Academy Network, built the first MVP. Rishan leads engineering and builds the Vision OS for hand-raising and participation analytics.

Send us a textJoin hosts Alex Sarlin and Ben Kornell as they dive into the latest headlines shaping the future of education technology, from AI tutors and Gallup polls to new VR career pathways and the impact of phone bans in schools. ✨ Episode Highlights: [00:03:38] Mashable compares AI tutors from OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic[00:10:45] Gallup poll shows confidence in K-12 at all-time low [00:15:48] CZI launches Learning Commons open-source AI infrastructure [00:20:41] CZI + Anthropic partnership expands AI tools for edtech [00:23:31] Kahoot unveils new AI-powered study tools [00:26:26] Phone bans spread in U.S. schools with positive results [00:29:53] Higher ed faces declining international applications and demographic cliff Plus, special guests: [00:36:24] Nick Chen, Founder of PlayMath.org, on educational gaming and product lessons [01:00:40] Jamie Candee, CEO of Edmentum, on career pathways, durable skills, and VR workforce prep 

Pour l'épisode de cette semaine, je reçois Edouard Reinach, le CEO et cofondateur de Trampoline.Trampoline est une solution SaaS qui aide les entreprises de services à répondre plus efficacement aux appels d'offres, en s'appuyant sur l'intelligence artificielle et une interface ultra-collaborative.Au cours de cet épisode, on revient sur le parcours riche d'Edouard : de ses débuts dans le web et la communication, à la création de plusieurs agences et startups entre le Canada et San Francisco, jusqu'au lancement de Trampoline.On parle du pivot fondateur du projet, de la complexité de la fonction pré-vente, de comment Trampoline permet de structurer les réponses, de capturer l'expertise des équipes sans les surcharger, et de drastiquement réduire le temps passé à répondre à un RFP (jusqu'à 80 % de gain de temps !).On évoque aussi des sujets produit passionnants : IA multimodale, architecture optimisée pour les documents complexes, gestion des changements de dernière minute, et vision long terme pour supprimer les documents dans les processus inter-entreprises.Enfin, on discute de stratégie go-to-market, d'outils freemium comme Go/NoGo, d'expansion internationale… et de santé mentale dans l'entrepreneuriat.Vous pouvez suivre Edouard sur LinkedIn.Bonne écoute !Mentionnés pendant l'épisode :Founders at WorkTrampolineGo/No-Go par TrampolinePour soutenir SaaS Connection en 1 minute⏱ (et 2 secondes) :Abonnez-vous à SaaS Connection sur votre plateforme préférée pour ne rater aucun épisode

Send us a textIn this special episode, we spotlight the Global EdTech Prize 2025 with founder Vikas Pota of T4 Education and six inspiring finalists from around the world.

Each episode on Unstoppable Mindset I ask all of you and my guests to feel free to introduce me to others who would be good guests on our podcast. Our guest this time, Erin Edgar, is a guest introduced to me by a past podcast guest, Rob Wentz. Rob told me that Erin is inspirational and would be interesting and that she would have a lot to offer you, our audience. Rob was right on all counts. Erin Edgar was born blind. Her parents adopted an attitude that would raise their daughter with a positive attitude about herself. She was encouraged and when barriers were put in her way as a youth, her parents helped her fight to be able to participate and thrive. For a time, she attended the Indiana School for the Blind. Her family moved to Georgia where Erin attended high school. After high school, Erin wanted to go to college where she felt there would be a supportive program that would welcome her on campus. She attended the University of North Carolina at Chapple Hill. After graduating she decided to continue at UNC where she wanted to study law. The same program that gave her so much assistance during her undergraduate days was not able to provide the same services to Erin the graduate student. Even so, Erin had learned how to live, survive and obtain what she needed to go through the law program. After she received her law degree Erin began to do what she always wanted to do: She wanted to use the law to help people. So, she worked in programs such as Legal Aid in North Carolina and she also spent time as a mediator. She will describe all that for us. Like a number of people, when the pandemic began, she decided to pivot and start her own law firm. She focuses on estate planning. We have a good discussion about topics such as the differences between a will and a living trust. Erin offers many relevant and poignant thoughts and words of advice we all can find helpful. Erin is unstoppable by any standard as you will see. About the Guest: Erin Edgar, Esq., is a caring, heart-centered attorney, inspirational speaker and vocal artist. She loves helping clients: -- Plan for the future of their lives and businesses, ensuring that they have the support they need and helping them find ways to provide for their loved ones upon death. --Ensure that the leave a legacy of love and reflect client values -- Find creative ways that allow them to impact the world with a lasting legacy. She is passionate about connecting with clients on a heart level. She loves witnessing her clients as she guides them to transform their intentions for their loved ones into a lasting legacy through the estate planning process. Erin speaks about ways to meld proven legal tools, strategies, and customization with the creative process to design legal solutions that give people peace of mind, clarity, and the assurance that their loved ones will be taken care of, and the world will be left a better place Ways to connect with Erin: Facebook: https://facebook.com/erin-edgar-legal LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/erinedgar About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can subscribe in your favorite podcast app. You can also support our podcast through our tip jar https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/unstoppable-mindset . Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Transcription Notes: Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:21 Hi everyone, and welcome to another edition of unstoppable mindset. We're glad that you're here with us, wherever you may be. Hope the day is going well, and we have Erin Edgar on our episode today. Edgar is a very interesting person in a lot of ways. She's a caring, heart centered attorney. She is also an inspirational speaker and a vocal artist. I'm not sure whether vocal artistry comes into play when she's in the courtroom, but we won't worry about that too much. I assume that you don't sing to your judges when you're trying to deal with something. But anyway, I'll let her answer that. I'm just trying to cause trouble, but Erin again. We're really glad you're with us. We really appreciate you being here, and I know you do a lot with estate planning and other kinds of things that'll be fun to talk about. So welcome to unstoppable mindset.   Erin Edgar ** 02:14 Thank you, Michael. It's great to be here, and I haven't sung in a courtroom or a courthouse yet, but I wouldn't rule it out.   Michael Hingson ** 02:23 I have someone who I know who also has a guide dog and his diet. His guide dog, it's been a while since I've seen him, but his guide dog tended to be very vocal, especially at unexpected times, and he said that occasionally happened in the courtroom, which really busted up the place. Oh, dear.   Erin Edgar ** 02:45 I imagine that would draw some smiles, hopefully, smiles.   Michael Hingson ** 02:48 Well, they were, yeah, do you, do you appear in court much?   Erin Edgar ** 02:53 Um, no, the type of law that I practice, I'm usually, I don't think I've ever appeared in court after I've written people's wills, but I have done previous things where I was in court mediating disputes, which is a kind of a separate thing that I used to do, so I've been in court just not recently. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 03:17 Well, that's understandable. Well, let's start a little bit with the early Erin and growing up and all that sort of stuff. Tell us about that? Sure.   Erin Edgar ** 03:26 So I was born in cold, gray Indiana, and, yeah, chilly in the wintertime, and I started out I was blind from birth, so my parents thought it would be a good idea to send me to the school for the blind for a while. And back when I was born, um, teen years ago, they did not mainstream visually impaired and disabled students in that state, so you went where you could, and I was at the blind school for until I reached third grade, and then we moved to Georgia, and I've been in the south ever since I live in North Carolina now, and I started going to public schools in fourth grade, and continued on that route all the way up through high school.   Michael Hingson ** 04:21 Oh, okay. And so then, what did you do?   Erin Edgar ** 04:29 So after, after that, I, you know, I was one of those high school students. I really wanted to get out of dodge and leave my high school behind. I went visiting a couple of colleges in Georgia, and I said to my parents, I said, I really don't like this. It's like going to high school again. Literally, I was meeting people I had been in high school with, and I decided, and was very grateful that my parents. Were able to rig it some way so that I could go to an out of state school. And I went to UNC Chapel Hill here in North Carolina, Tar Heels all the way. And I was there for undergrad. And then I got into law school there as well, which I was very excited about, because I didn't have to go anywhere, and graduated from law school again a while ago in the early 2000s   Michael Hingson ** 05:31 Okay, and so then you went straight into law from that.   Erin Edgar ** 05:37 I didn't I did some other things before I actually went into law itself. I worked with some local advocacy organizations, and I also mediated, as I said earlier, I did mediations with the county court, helping mediate criminal disputes. And we're talking about like things with you get in a dispute with your neighbor and you yell at each other, those kind of People's Court type things. They were fun and interesting. And then I did go into law. After that, I started working with Legal Aid of North Carolina, which is a an organization that helps people in poverty who cannot afford a lawyer to go and have have their options communicated to them and some help given to them regarding their public benefits or certain other, you know, public things that we could help with we weren't able to help with any personal injury, or, you know, any of the fun stuff you see on TV. So and then, when the pandemic hit, I started my own law practice and completely changed gears and went into writing estate plans and wills for a living.   Michael Hingson ** 07:07 Do you think that your time doing mediation work and so on taught you a lot about humanity and human nature and people?   Erin Edgar ** 07:16 It did. I bet it did. It was invaluable, actually, in that area taught me a lot about, I don't know necessarily, about human nature. However, it did teach me a lot about how to talk to people who were on different pages. You know, they had, perhaps, values and principles that weren't quite the same, where they had a different way of looking at the same exact situation, and how to bring those those people together and allow them to connect on a deeper level, rather than the argument we're able to get them to agree to kind of move forward from that, so nobody has to be found guilty, right? And you know a judge doesn't have and you don't have to drag a criminal conviction around with you. I think the most rewarding cases that I had, by far were the education cases. Because I don't know if anyone knows this, but in most states, in the United States, if you don't send your kids to school, you are guilty of a crime. It's called truancy, and you can be arrested. Well, the county that I live in was very forward thinking, and the school system and the court said, that's kind of dumb. We don't want to arrest parents if their kids aren't going to school, there's something behind it. You know, there the school is not providing what the child needs. The child's acting out for some reason, and we need to get to the bottom of it. So what they did was they set up a process whereby we come in as neutral observers. We did not work for the court. We were part of a separate organization, and have a school social worker there or counselor, and also have a parent there, and they could talk through the issues. And in a lot of cases, if the children were old enough, they were teenagers, they were there, and they could talk about it from their perspective. And truly amazing things came out of those situations. We could just we would discover that the children had a behavioral issue or even a disability that had not been recognized, and were able to come up with plans to address that with you know, or the school was with our help,   Michael Hingson ** 09:42 going back a little bit, how did your parents deal with the fact that you were blind? I gather it was a fairly positive experience   Erin Edgar ** 09:50 for me. It was positive. I was so fortunate, and I'm still so grateful to this day for having parents who you. I were very forward thinking, and advocated for me to have and do whatever, not whatever I wanted, because I was far from spoiled, but, you know, whatever, yeah, yeah, you know. But whatever, however I wanted to be successful, they advocated for me. And so my mother actually told me, you know, when I was born, they went through all the parent things like, oh, gosh, what did we do wrong? You know, why is God punishing us? You know, all that. And they, very early on, found support groups for, you know, parents with children with either blindness or disabilities of some sort, and that was a great source of help to them. And as I grew up, they made every effort to ensure that I had people who could teach me, if they couldn't, you know, how to interact with other children. I think, for a while when I was very little, and I actually kind of remember this, they hired an occupational therapist to come and teach me how to play with kids, because not only was I blind, but I was an only child, so I didn't have brothers and sisters to interact with, and that whole play thing was kind of a mystery to me, and I remember it sort of vaguely, but that's just A demonstration that they wanted me to have the best life possible and to be fully integrated into the sighted world as much as possible. So when I was at the blind school, and I was in this residential environment, and there was an added bonus that my parents didn't really weren't happy in their jobs either, and they weren't happy with the education I was getting, that they decided, well, we're just going to pick up and move and that was, quite frankly, as I look back on it now, a huge risk for them. And they did it, you know, 50% for me and 50% for them, maybe even 6040, but as I look back on it now, it's another demonstration of how supportive they were, and all the way through my school age years, were very active in ensuring that I had everything that I needed and that I had the support that I needed.   Michael Hingson ** 12:19 That's cool. How did it go when you went to college at UNC?   Erin Edgar ** 12:25 Yeah, that's an interesting question, a very good question.   Michael Hingson ** 12:29 You didn't play basketball, I assume? Oh no, I figured you had other things to do.   Erin Edgar ** 12:33 Yeah, I had other stuff to do. I sang in the choir and sang with the medieval chorus group, and, you know, all this other, like, musical geek, geeky stuff. But, or, and when we were looking for colleges and universities, one of the criteria was they had to have a solid kind of, like disability, slash visually impaired center, or, you know, support staff that would help in, you know, allow people with disabilities to go through the university. So at UNC Chapel Hill, the they had as part of their student affairs department Disability Services, and it just so happened that they were very aware of accommodations that blind people needed. I wasn't the first blind student to go through undergrad there. That's not law school, that's undergrad. And so you know, how much was it? Time and a half on on tests if I was doing them on the computer, double time if I was doing them in Braille. A lot of the tests were in Braille because they had the technology to do it. And also the gentleman who ran the Disability Services Department, I think, knew Braille, if I'm not mistaken, and could transcribe if necessary. But I was at the stage at that point where I was typing most of my exams anyway, and didn't need much that was in Braille, because I had books either electronically or they had a network of folks in the community that would volunteer to read if there was not, you know, available textbooks from RFD, and what is it, RFP and D? Now was at the time, yeah, now Learning Ally, there wasn't a Bookshare at that time, so we couldn't use Bookshare, but if there weren't textbooks available, they would have people in the community who would read them for them, and they would get paid a little bit. Now, when I went to law school, it was a totally different ball game, because I was the first law student who was blind, that UNC Chapel Hill had had, and it was a different school within the school, so that student affairs department was not part of law school anymore, and we had quite a time the first semester getting my book. Works in a format that I could read them in. They did eventually, kind of broker a deal, if you will, with the publishers who were either Thompson Reuters or Westlaw at the time to get electronic versions. They were floppy disks. This is how old I am. Floppy disks. They were in this weird format. I think it was word perfect or something. Usually it was, and they   Michael Hingson ** 15:27 didn't really have a lot of them new or no, they didn't know now, newer publishing system,   Erin Edgar ** 15:32 yeah, there wasn't PDF even, I don't think, at the time. And the agreement was I could get those, and I actually had to buy the print textbooks as well. So I have this whole bookcase of law books that are virgin, unopened, almost. And they are, you know, some of them almost 25 years old, never been opened and of no use to anyone. But I have them, and they look nice sitting down there in that bookshelf antiques books. They're antiques. So the first year was a little rough, because for a while I didn't have books, and we were able to make arrangements so that I could kind of make up some classes on a later year and switch things around a little bit. And it ended up all working out really well once we got started.   Michael Hingson ** 16:16 Yeah, I remember when I was going through getting my bachelor's and master's in physics, I needed the books in braille because, well, it's the only way to be able to really deal with the subject. You can't do it nearly as well from recordings, although now there's a little bit better capability through recording, because we have the DayZ format and so on. But still, it's not the same as reading it in Braille and for mathematics and physics and so on. I think that the only way to really do it is in Braille. And we had challenges because professors didn't want to decide what books to use until the last minute, because then, oh, a new book might be coming out and we want to get the latest book, and that didn't work for me, right? Because I had a network that I, in part, I developed with the Department of Rehabilitation out here, helped our office for disabled students didn't really have the resources to know it. They were very supportive. They just didn't really deal with it. But the bottom line is that we had to develop, I had to develop the network of transcribers, but they needed three to six months to do the books, at least three months and and sometimes I would get them one or two volumes at a time, and they barely kept ahead of the class. But, you know, it worked, but professors resisted it. And my the person who ran the Office for Students with Disabilities, said, Look, you have to work on these things, but if you're not getting cooperation from professors, and you come and tell me, and I will use the power of this office to get you what you need, there's another thing you might consider doing, she said. And I said, What's that? And Jan said, Go meet the chancellor. Make friends, yeah, friends in high places. And so I did. And Dan, oh, there you go. Became pretty good friends over the years, which was pretty cool,   Erin Edgar ** 18:15 you know, it was weird because we didn't, I didn't have that problem with the professors. They were, you know, I had a couple of old codgers, but they weren't really worried about the books. They were fine with me having the books, but it was the publishers. The publishers were irritated that that I needed them, and, you know, in an alternative format. And I didn't really, I was not. I was one of those people that if someone said they were going to do something for me, I kind of let people do it. And at the time, I was really not an advocate, advocator for myself, at that time, a very good self advocate. And so I kind of let the school interface with that. I think it would have been really interesting, if I look back on it, for me to have taken a hand in that. And I wonder what would have happened well, and at this point, you know, it's neither here nor there, but that's really fascinating. Making Friends with the chancellor, sometimes you have to do stuff like that   Michael Hingson ** 19:15 well. And the idea was really to get to know Him. And what there was, well, obviously other motivations, like, if we needed to go to a higher court to get help, we could go to the chancellor. I never had to do that, but, but the reason for meeting him and getting to know him was really just to do it and to have fun doing it. So we did,   Erin Edgar ** 19:36 yeah, and I kind of had a comparable experience. I met the Dean of the Law School for that very reason. And he said, you know, if you've got trouble, come to me, my parents got involved a little bit. And we all, you know, met together and maybe even separately at some points just to make sure that I had everything that I needed at various times. Mm. Yeah, and I made friends with the some of the assistant deans at the law school, in particular because of the situation, and one of whom was the Dean of the Law School Student Affairs, who was helping me to get what I needed. And for a while, when I was in law school and beyond. He was like, We lent books to each other. It was very funny. We found out we had the same reading tastes beyond law books. It wasn't, you know, legal at all, but we were like, trading books and things. So a lot of really good relationships came out of that.   Michael Hingson ** 20:37 And I think that's extremely important to to do. And I think that's one of the things that that offices for students with disabilities that tend to want to do everything for you. I think that's one of the things that it's a problem with those offices, because if you don't learn to do them, and if you don't learn to do them in college, how are you going to be able to be able to really act independently and as an advocate after college, so you have to learn that stuff   Erin Edgar ** 21:05 Absolutely. That's a very good point.   Michael Hingson ** 21:09 So I, I think it was extremely important to do it, and we did, and had a lot of fun doing it. So it was, was good. What are some of the biggest misconceptions you think that people had about you as a blind child growing up?   Erin Edgar ** 21:25 Oh yeah, that's a great question. I think that one of the biggest misconceptions that people had about me, especially when I was younger, is that I would know I would be sort of relegated to staying at home with parents all of my life, or being a stay at home parent and not able to be kind of professionally employed and earning, you know, earning a living wage. Now, I have my own business, and that's where most of my money goes at the same at this point. So, you know, earning a living wage might be up in the air at the moment. Ha, ha. But the the one thing I think that the biggest misconception that people had, and this is even like teachers at the blind school, it was very rare for blind children of my age to grow up and be, you know, professionals in, I don't want to say high places, but like people able to support themselves without a government benefit backing them up. And it was kind of always assumed that we would be in that category, that we would be less able than our sighted peers to do that. And so that was a huge misconception, even you know, in the school that I was attending. I think that was the, really the main one and one misconception that I had then and still have today, is that if I'm blind, I can't speak for myself. This still happens today. For instance, if I'm if I want, if I'm going somewhere and I just happen to be with someone sighted, they will talk whoever I'm, wherever I'm at, they will talk to the sighted person, right? They won't talk to you. They won't talk to me. And so, for instance, simple example, if I'm somewhere with my husband, and we happen to be walking together and we go somewhere that I need to go, they will talk to him because he's guiding me, and they won't talk. And he's like, don't talk to me. I have no idea, you know, talk to her, and part of that is I'm half a step behind him. People naturally gravitate to the people that are leading. However, I noticed, even when I was a young adult, and I would go, you know, to the doctor, and I would be with my my parents, like, maybe I'm visiting them, and I need to go to the doctor, they would talk to them and not me, yeah, which is kind of sad. And I think it happens a lot, a lot more than people realize.   Michael Hingson ** 24:10 Yeah, it does. And one of my favorite stories is, is this, I got married in 1982 and my wife has always been, or had always been. She passed away in 2022 but she was always in a wheelchair. And we went to a restaurant one Saturday for breakfast. We were standing at the counter waiting to be seated, and the hostess was behind the counter, and nothing was happening. And finally, Karen said to me, she doesn't know who to talk to, you know? Because Karen, of course, is, is in a wheelchair, so actually, she's clearly shorter than this, this person behind the counter, and then there's me and and, of course, I'm not making eye contact, and so Karen just said she doesn't know who to talk to. I said, you know? All she's gotta do is ask us where we would like to sit or if we'd like to have breakfast, and we can make it work. Well, she she got the message, and she did, and the rest of the the day went fine, but that was really kind of funny, that we had two of us, and she just didn't know how to deal with either of us, which was kind of cute. Mm, hmm. Well, you know, it brings up another question. You use the term earlier, visually impaired. There's been a lot of effort over the years. A lot of the professionals, if you will, created this whole terminology of visually impaired, and they say, well, you're blind or you're visually impaired. And visually impaired means you're not totally blind, but, but you're still visually impaired. And finally, blind people, I think, are starting to realize what people who are deaf learned a long time ago, and that is that if you take take a deaf person and you refer to them as hearing impaired, there's no telling what they might do to you, because they recognize that impaired is not true and they shouldn't be equated with people who have all of their hearing. So it's deaf or hard of hearing, which is a whole lot less of an antagonistic sort of concept than hearing impaired. We're starting to get blind people, and not everyone's there yet, and we're starting to get agencies, and not every agency is there yet, to recognize that it's blind or low vision, as opposed to blind or here or visually impaired, visually impaired. What do you think about that? How does and how does that contribute to the attitudes that people had toward you?   Erin Edgar ** 26:38 Yeah, so when I was growing up, I was handicapped, yeah, there was that too, yeah, yeah, that I was never fond of that, and my mother softened it for me, saying, well, we all have our handicaps or shortcomings, you know, and but it was really, what was meant was you had Something that really held you back. I actually, I say, this is so odd. I always, I usually say I'm totally blind. Because when I say blind, the immediate question people have is, how blind are you? Yeah, which gets back to stuff, yeah, yeah. If you're blind, my opinion, if you're blind, you're you're blind, and if you have low vision, you have partial sight. And visually impaired used to be the term, you know, when I was younger, that people use, and that's still a lot. It's still used a lot, and I will use it occasionally, generally. I think that partially sighted, I have partial vision is, is what I've heard people use. That's what, how my husband refers to himself. Low Vision is also, you know, all those terms are much less pejorative than actually being impaired,   Michael Hingson ** 27:56 right? That's kind of really the issue, yeah. My, my favorite example of all of this is a past president of the National Federation of the Blind, Ken Jernigan, you've heard of him, I assume, Oh, sure. He created a document once called a definition of blindness, and his definition, he goes through and discusses various conditions, and he asks people if, if you meet these conditions, are you blind or not? But then what he eventually does is he comes up with a definition, and his definition, which I really like, is you are blind if your eyesight has decreased to the point where you have to use alternatives to full eyesight in order to function, which takes into account totally blind and partially blind people. Because the reality is that most of those people who are low vision will probably, or they may probably, lose the rest of their eyesight. And the agencies have worked so hard to tell them, just use your eyesight as best you can. And you know you may need to use a cane, but use your eyesight as best you can, and if you go blind, then we're going to have to teach you all over again, rather than starting by saying blindness is really okay. And the reality is that if you learn the techniques now, then you can use the best of all worlds.   Erin Edgar ** 29:26 I would agree with that. I would also say you should, you know, people should use what they have. Yeah, using everything you have is okay. And I think there's a lot of a lot of good to be said for learning the alternatives while you're still able to rely on something else.   Michael Hingson ** 29:49 Point taken exactly you know, because   Erin Edgar ** 29:53 as you age, you get more and more in the habit of doing things one way, and it's. Very hard to break out of that. And if you haven't learned an alternative, there's nothing you feel like. There's nothing to fall back on, right? And it's even harder because now you're in the situation of urgency where you feel like you're missing something and you're having to learn something new, whereas if you already knew it and knew different ways to rely on things you would be just like picking a memory back up, rather than having to learn something new. Well, I've never been in that position, so I can't say, but in the abstract, I think that's a good definition.   Michael Hingson ** 30:34 Well, there are a lot of examples, like, take a person who has some eyesight, and they're not encouraged to use a cane. And I know someone who was in this situation. I think I've told the story on this podcast, but he lived in New Jersey and was travel. And traveled every day from New Jersey into Philadelphia to work, and he was on a reasonably cloudy day, was walking along. He had been given a cane by the New Jersey Commission for the Blind, but he they didn't really stress the value of using it. And so he was walking along the train to go in, and he came to the place where he could turn in and go into the car. And he did, and promptly fell between two cars because he wasn't at the right place. And then the train actually started to move, but they got it stopped, and so he was okay, but as as he tells the story, he certainly used his cane from then on. Because if he had been using the cane, even though he couldn't see it well because it was dark, or not dark, cloudy, he would have been able to see that he was not at the place where the car entrance was, but rather he was at the junction between two cars. And there's so many examples of that. There's so many reasons why it's important to learn the skills. Should a partially blind or a low vision person learn to read Braille? Well, depends on circumstances, of course, I think, to a degree, but the value of learning Braille is that you have an alternative to full print, especially if there's a likelihood that you're going to lose the rest of your eyesight. If you psychologically do it now, that's also going to psychologically help you prepare better for not having any eyesight later.   Erin Edgar ** 32:20 And of course, that leads to to blind children these days learn how to read, yeah, which is another issue.   Michael Hingson ** 32:28 Which is another issue because educators are not teaching Braille nearly as much as they should, and the literacy rate is so low. And the fact of the matter is even with George Kircher, who invented the whole DAISY format and and all the things that you can do with the published books and so on. The reality is there is still something to be said for learning braille. You don't have sighted children just watching television all the time, although sometimes my parents think they do, but, but the point is that they learn to read, and there's a value of really learning to read. I've been in an audience where a blind speaker was delivering a speech, and he didn't know or use Braille. He had a device that was, I think what he actually used was a, was, it was a Victor Reader Stream, which is   Erin Edgar ** 33:24 one of those, right?   Michael Hingson ** 33:25 I think it was that it may have been something else, but the bottom line is, he had his speech written out, and he would play it through earphones, and then he would verbalize his speech. Oh, no, that's just mess me up. Oh, it would. It was very disjointed and and I think that for me, personally, I read Braille pretty well, but I don't like to read speeches at all. I want to engage the audience, and so it's really important to truly speak with the audience and not read or do any of those other kinds of things.   Erin Edgar ** 33:57 I would agree. Now I do have a Braille display that I, I use, and, you know, I do use it for speeches. However, I don't put the whole speech on   Michael Hingson ** 34:10 there that I me too. I have one, and I use it for, I know, I have notes. Mm, hmm,   Erin Edgar ** 34:16 notes, yeah. And so I feel like Braille, especially for math. You know, when you said math and physics, like, Yeah, I can't imagine doing math without Braille. That just doesn't, you know, I can't imagine it, and especially in, you know, geometry and trigonometry with those diagrams. I don't know how you would do it without a Braille textbook, but yeah, there. There's certainly something to be said for for the the wonderful navigation abilities with, you know, e published audio DAISY books. However, it's not a substitute for knowing how to   Michael Hingson ** 34:55 read. Well, how are you going to learn to spell? How are you going to really learn sit? Structure, how are you going to learn any of those basic skills that sighted kids get if you don't use Braille? Absolutely, I think that that's one of the arenas where the educational system, to a large degree, does such a great disservice to blind kids because it won't teach them Braille.   Erin Edgar ** 35:16 Agreed, agreed. Well, thank you for this wonderful spin down Braille, Braille reading lane here. That was fun.   Michael Hingson ** 35:27 Well, so getting back to you a little bit, you must have thought or realized that probably when you went into law, you were going to face some challenges. But what was the defining moment that made you decide you're going to go into law, and what kind of challenges have you faced? If you face challenges, my making an assumption, but you know what?   Erin Edgar ** 35:45 Oh, sure. So the defining moment when I decided I wanted to go into law. It was a very interesting time for me. I was teenager. Don't know exactly how old I was, but I think I was in high school, and I had gone through a long period where I wanted to, like, be a music major and go into piano and voice and be a performer in those arenas, and get a, you know, high level degree whatnot. And then I began having this began becoming very interested in watching the Star Trek television series. Primarily I was out at the time the next generation, and I was always fascinated by the way that these people would find these civilizations on these planets, and they would be at odds in the beginning, and they would be at each other's throats, and then by the end of the day, they were all kind of   Michael Hingson ** 36:43 liking each other. And John Luke Picard didn't play a flute,   Erin Edgar ** 36:47 yes, and he also turned into a Borg, which was traumatic for me. I had to rate local summer to figure out what would happen. I was in I was in trauma. Anyway, my my father and I bonded over that show. It was, it was a wonderful sort of father daughter thing. We did it every weekend. And I was always fascinated by, like, the whole, the whole aspect of different ideologies coming together. And it always seemed to me that that's what human humanity should be about. As I, you know, got older, I thought, how could I be involved in helping people come together? Oh, let's go into law. Because, you know, our government's really good at that. That was the high school student in me. And I thought at the time, I wanted to go into the Foreign Service and work in the international field and help, you know, on a net, on a you know, foreign policy level. I quickly got into law school and realized two things simultaneously in my second year, international law was very boring, and there were plenty of problems in my local community that I could help solve, like, why work on the international stage when people in my local community are suffering in some degree with something and so I completely changed my focus to wanting to work in an area where I could bring people together and work for, you know, work on an individualized level. And as I went into the legal field, that was, it was part of the reason I went into the mediation, because that was one of the things that we did, was helping people come together. I realized, though, as I became a lawyer and actually started working in the field, most of the legal system is not based on that. It's based on who has the best argument. I wanted no part of that. Yeah, I want no part of that at all. I want to bring people together. Still, the Star Trek mentality is working here, and so when I when I started my own law firm, my immediate question to myself was, how can I now that I'm out doing my own thing, actually bring people together? And the answer that I got was help families come together, especially people thinking about their end of life decisions and gathering their support team around them. Who they want to help them? If they are ever in a situation where they become ill and they can't manage their affairs, or if you know upon their death, who do they want to help them and support them. And how can I use the law to allow that to happen? And so that's how I am working, to use the law for healing and bringing people together, rather than rather than winning an argument.   Michael Hingson ** 39:59 Yeah. Yeah, well, and I think there's a lot of merit to that. I I value the law a great deal, and I I am not an attorney or anything like that, but I have worked in the world of legislation, and I've worked in the world of dealing with helping to get legislation passed and and interacting with lawyers. And my wife and I worked with an attorney to set up our our trust, and then couple of years ago, I redid it after she passed away. And so I think that there was a lot of a lot of work that attorneys do that is extremely important. Yeah, there are, there are attorneys that were always dealing with the best arguments, and probably for me, the most vivid example of that, because it was so captivating when it happened, was the whole OJ trial back in the 1990s we were at a county fair, and we had left going home and turned on the radio, only To hear that the police were following OJ, and they finally arrested him. And then when the trial occurred, we while I was working at a company, and had a radio, and people would would come around, and we just had the radio on, and followed the whole trial. And it was interesting to see all the manipulation and all the movement, and you're right. It came down to who had the best argument, right or wrong?   Erin Edgar ** 41:25 The bloody glove. If it doesn't fit, you must acquit. Yeah, yep, I remember that. I remember where I was when they arrested him, too. I was at my grandparents house, and we were watching it on TV. My grandfather was captivated by the whole thing. But yes, there's certainly, you know, some manipulation. There's also, there are also lawyers who do a lot of good and a lot of wonderful things. And in reality, you know, most cases don't go to trial. They're settled in some way. And so, you know, there isn't always, you know, who has the best argument. It's not always about that, right? And at the same time, that is, you know, what the system is based on, to some extent. And really, when our country was founded, our founding fathers were a bunch of, like, acted in a lot of ways, like a bunch of children. If you read books on, you know, the Constitution, it was, it was all about, you know, I want this in here, and I want that in here. And, you know, a lot of argument around that, which, of course, is to be expected. And many of them did not expect our country's government to last beyond their lifetimes. Uh, James Madison was the exception, but all the others were like, Ed's going to fail. And yet, I am very, very proud to be a lawyer in this country, because while it's not perfect, our founding documents actually have a lot of flexibility and how and can be interpreted to fit modern times, which is, I think the beauty of them and exactly what the Founders intended for.   Michael Hingson ** 43:15 Yeah, and I do think that some people are taking advantage of that and causing some challenges, but that's also part of our country and part of our government. I like something Jimmy Carter once said, which was, we must adjust to changing times while holding to unwavering principles. And I think absolutely that's the part that I think sometimes is occasionally being lost, that we forget those principles, or we want to manipulate the principles and make them something that they're not. But he was absolutely right. That is what we need to do, and we can adjust to changing times without sacrificing principles. Absolutely.   Erin Edgar ** 43:55 I firmly believe that, and I would like to kind of turn it back to what we were talking about before, because you actually asked me, What are some challenges that I have faced, and if it's okay with you, I would like to get back to that. Oh, sure. Okay. Well, so I have faced some challenges for you know, to a large extent, though I was very well accommodated. I mean, the one challenge with the books that was challenging when I took the bar exam, oh, horror of horrors. It was a multiple, multiple shot deal, but it finally got done. However, it was not, you know, my failing to pass the first time or times was not the fault of the actual board of law examiners. They were very accommodating. I had to advocate for myself a little bit, and I also had to jump through some hoops. For example, I had to bring my own person to bubble in my responses on the multiple choice part, it. And bring my own person in to kind of monitor me while I did the essay portion. But they allowed me to have a computer, they allowed me to have, you know, the screen reader. They allowed me to have time and a half to do the the exam. And so we're accommodating in that way. And so no real challenges there. You know, some hoops to jump through. But it got all worked out.   Michael Hingson ** 45:23 And even so, some of that came about because blind people actually had to go all the way to the Supreme Court. Yes, the bar to the Bar Association to recognize that those things needed to be that way,   Erin Edgar ** 45:37 absolutely. And so, you know, I was lucky to come into this at a time where that had already been kind of like pre done for me. I didn't have to deal with that as a challenge. And so the only other challenges I had, some of them, were mine, like, you know, who's going to want to hire this blind person? Had a little bit of, you know, kind of challenge there, with that mindset issue for a while there, and I did have some challenges when I was looking for employment after I'd worked for legal aid for a while, and I wanted to move on and do something else. And I knew I didn't want to work for a big, big firm, and I would, I was talking to some small law firms about hiring me, small to mid size firms. And I would get the question of, well, you're blind, so what kind of accommodations do you need? And we would talk about, you know, computer, special software to make a talk, you know, those kinds of things. And it always ended up that, you know, someone else was hired. And I can, you know, I don't have proof that the blindness and the hesitancy around hiring a disabled person or a blind person was in back of that decision. And at the same time, I had the sense that there was some hesitation there as well, so that, you know, was a bit of a challenge, and starting my own law firm was its own challenge, because I had to experiment with several different software systems to Find one that was accessible enough for me to use. And the system I'm thinking about in particular, I wouldn't use any other system, and yet, I'm using practically the most expensive estate planning drafting system out there, because it happens to be the most accessible. It's also the most expensive. Always that. There's always that. And what's it called? I'm curious. It's called wealth Council, okay, wealth. And then the word councils, Council, SEL, and it's wonderful. And the folks there are very responsive. If I say something's not accessible, I mean, they have fixed things for me in the past. Isn't that great? And complain, isn't that wonderful? It is wonderful. And that's, that's awesome. I had a CRM experience with a couple of different like legal CRM software. I used one for a while, and it was okay. But then, you know, everyone else said this other one was better and it was actually less accessible. So I went back to the previous one, you know. So I have to do a lot of my own testing, which is kind of a challenge in and of itself. I don't have people testing software for me. I have to experiment and test and in some cases, pay for something for a while before I realize it's not, you know, not worth it. But now I have those challenges pretty much ironed out. And I have a paralegal who helps me do some things that, like she proof reads my documents, for instance, because otherwise there may be formatting things that I'm not, that I miss. And so I have the ability to have cited assistance with things that I can't necessarily do myself, which is, you know, absolutely fine,   Michael Hingson ** 49:04 yeah. Now, do you use Lexus? Is it accessible?   Erin Edgar ** 49:08 I don't need Lexus, yeah, yeah. I mean, I have, I'm a member of the Bar Association, of my, my state bar association, which is not, not voluntary. It's mandatory. But I'm a member primarily because they have a search, a legal search engine that they work with that we get for free. I mean, with our members, there you go. So there you go. So I don't need Lexus or West Law or any of those other search engines for what I do. And if I was, like, really into litigation and going to court all time and really doing deep research, I would need that. But I don't. I can use the one that they have, that we can use so and it's, it's a entirely web based system. It's fairly accessible   Michael Hingson ** 49:58 well, and. That makes it easier to as long as you've got people's ears absolutely make it accessible, which makes a lot of sense.   Erin Edgar ** 50:08 Yeah, it certainly does well.   Michael Hingson ** 50:10 So do you regard yourself as a resilient person? Has blindness impacted that or helped make that kind of more the case for you? Do you think I do resilience is such an overused term, but it's fair. I know   Erin Edgar ** 50:24 I mean resilience is is to my mind, a resilient person is able to face uh, challenges with a relatively positive outlook in and view a challenge as something to be to be worked through rather than overcome, and so yes, I do believe that blindness, in and of itself, has allowed me to find ways to adapt to situations and pivot in cases where, you know, I need to find an alternative to using a mouse. For instance, how would I do that? And so in other areas of life, I am, you know, because I'm blind, I'm able to more easily pivot into finding alternative solutions. I do believe that that that it has made me more resilient.   Michael Hingson ** 51:25 Do you think that being blind has caused you, and this is an individual thing, because I think that there are those who don't. But do you think that it's caused you to learn to listen better?   Erin Edgar ** 51:39 That's a good question, because I actually, I have a lot of sighted friends, and one of the things that people just assume is that, wow, you must be a really good listener. Well, my husband would tell you that's not always the case. Yeah. My wife said the same thing, yeah. You know, like everyone else, sometimes I hear what I want to hear in a conversation and at the same time, one of the things that I do tell people is that, because I'm blind, I do rely on other senses more, primarily hearing, I would say, and that hearing provides a lot of cues for me about my environment, and I've learned to be more skillful at it. So I, I would say that, yes, I am a good listener in terms of my environment, very sensitive to that in in my environment, in terms of active listening to conversations and being able to listen to what's behind what people say, which is another aspect of listening. I think that that is a skill that I've developed over time with conscious effort. I don't think I'm any better of a quote, unquote listener than anybody else. If I hadn't developed that primarily in in my mediation, when I was doing that, that was a huge thing for us, was to be able to listen, not actually to what people were saying, but what was behind what people were saying, right? And so I really consciously developed that skill during those years and took it with me into my legal practice, which is why I am very, very why I very much stress that I'm not only an attorney, but I'm also a counselor at law. That doesn't mean I'm a therapist, but it does mean I listen to what people say so that and what's behind what people say, so that with the ear towards providing them the legal solution that meets their needs as they describe them in their words.   Michael Hingson ** 53:47 Well, I think for me, I learned to listen, but it but it is an exercise, and it is something that you need to practice, and maybe I learned to do it a little bit better, because I was blind. For example, I learned to ride a bike, and you have to learn to listen to what's going on around you so you don't crash into cars. Oh, but I'd fall on my face. You can do it. But what I what I really did was, when I was I was working at a company, and was told that the job was going to be phased out because I wasn't a revenue producer, and the company was an engineering startup and had to bring in more revenue producers. And I was given the choice of going away or going into sales, which I had never done. And as I love to tell people, I lowered my standards and went from science to sales. But the reality is that that I think I've always and I think we all always sell in one way or another, but I also knew what the unemployment rate among employable blind people was and is, yeah, and so I went into sales with with no qualms. But there I really learned to listen. And and it was really a matter of of learning to commit, not just listen, but really learning to communicate with the people you work with. And I think that that I won't say blindness made me better, but what it did for me was it made me use the technologies like the telephone, perhaps more than some other people. And I did learn to listen better because I worked at it, not because I was blind, although they're related   Erin Edgar ** 55:30 exactly. Yeah, and I would say, I would 100% agree I worked at it. I mean, even when I was a child, I worked at listening to to become better at, kind of like analyzing my environment based on sounds that were in it. Yeah, I wouldn't have known. I mean, it's not a natural gift, as some people assume, yeah, it's something you practice and you have to work at. You get to work at.   Michael Hingson ** 55:55 Well, as I point out, there are people like SEAL Team Six, the Navy Seals and the Army Rangers and so on, who also practice using all of their senses, and they learn, in general, to become better at listening and other and other kinds of skills, because they have to to survive, but, but that's what we all do, is if we do it, right, we're learning it. It's not something that's just naturally there, right? I agree, which I think is important. So you're working in a lot of estate planning and so on. And I mentioned earlier that we it was back in 1995 we originally got one, and then it's now been updated, but we have a trust. What's the difference between having, like a trust and a will?   Erin Edgar ** 56:40 Well, that's interesting that you should ask. So A will is the minimum that pretty much, I would say everyone needs, even though 67% of people don't have one in the US. And it is pretty much what everyone needs. And it basically says, you know, I'm a, I'm a person of sound mind, and I know who is important to me and what I have that's important to me. And I wanted to go to these people who are important to me, and by the way, I want this other person to manage things after my death. They're also important to me and a trust, basically, there are multiple different kinds of trusts, huge numbers of different kinds. And the trust that you probably are referring to takes the will to kind of another level and provides more direction about about how to handle property and how how it's to be dealt with, not only after death, but also during your lifetime. And trusts are relatively most of them, like I said, there are different kinds, but they can be relatively flexible, and you can give more direction about how to handle that property than you can in a will, like, for instance, if you made an estate plan and your kids were young, well, I don't want my children to have access to this property until they're responsible adults. So maybe saying, in a trust until they're age 25 you can do that, whereas in a will, you it's more difficult to do that.   Michael Hingson ** 58:18 And a will, as I understand it, is a lot more easily contested than than a trust.   Erin Edgar ** 58:24 You know, it does depend, but yes, it is easily contested. That's not to say that if you have a trust, you don't need a will, which is a misconception that some, yeah, we have a will in our trust, right? And so, you know, you need the will for the court. Not everyone needs a trust. I would also venture to say that if you don't have a will on your death, the law has ideas about how your property should be distributed. So if you don't have a will, you know your property is not automatically going to go to the government as unclaimed, but if you don't have powers of attorney for your health care and your finance to help you out while you're alive, you run the risk of the A judge appointing someone you would not want to make your health care and financial decisions. And so I'm going to go off on a tangent here. But I do feel very strongly about this, even blind people who and disabled people who are, what did you call it earlier, the the employable blind community, but maybe they're not employed. They don't have a lot of   Michael Hingson ** 59:34 unemployed, unemployed, the unemployable blind people, employable   Erin Edgar ** 59:38 blind people, yes, you know, maybe they're not employed, they're on a government benefit. They don't have a lot of assets. Maybe they don't necessarily need that will. They don't have to have it. And at the same time, if they don't have those, those documents that allow people to manage their affairs during their lifetime. Um, who's going to do it? Yeah, who's going to do that? Yeah, you're giving up control of your body, right, potentially, to someone you would not want, just because you're thinking to yourself, well, I don't need a will, and nothing's going to happen to me. You're giving control of your body, perhaps, to someone you don't want. You're not taking charge of your life and and you are allowing doctors and hospitals and banks to perpetuate the belief that you are not an independent person, right? I'm very passionate about it. Excuse me, I'll get off my soapbox now. That's okay. Those are and and to a large extent, those power of attorney forms are free. You can download them from your state's website. Um, they're minimalistic. They're definitely, I don't use them because I don't like them for my state. But you can get you can use them, and you can have someone help you fill them out. You could sign them, and then look, you've made a decision about who's going to help you when you're not able to help yourself,   Michael Hingson ** 1:01:07 which is extremely important to do. And as I mentioned, we went all the way and have a trust, and we funded the trust, and everything is in the trust. But I think that is a better way to keep everything protected, and it does provide so much more direction for whoever becomes involved, when, when you decide to go elsewhere, then, as they put it, this mortal coil. Yes, I assume that the coil is mortal. I don't know.   Erin Edgar ** 1:01:37 Yeah, who knows? Um, and you know trusts are good for they're not just for the Uber wealthy, which is another misconception. Trust do some really good things. They keep your situation, they keep everything more or less private, like, you know, I said you need a will for the court. Well, the court has the will, and it most of the time. If you have a trust, it just says, I want it to go, I want my stuff to go into the Michael hingson Trust. I'm making that up, by the way, and I, you know, my trust just deals with the distribution, yeah, and so stuff doesn't get held up in court. The court doesn't have to know about all the assets that you own. It's not all public record. And that's a huge, you know, some people care. They don't want everyone to know their business. And when I tell people, you know, I can go on E courts today and pull up the estate of anyone that I want in North Carolina and find out what they owned if they didn't have a will, or if they just had a will. And people like, really, you can do that? Oh, absolutely, yeah. I don't need any fancy credentials. It's all a matter of public record. And if you have a trust that does not get put into the court record unless it's litigated, which you know, it does happen, but not often,   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:56 but I but again, I think that, you know, yeah, and I'm not one of those Uber wealthy people. But I have a house. We we used to have a wheelchair accessible van for Karen. I still have a car so that when I need to be driven somewhere, rather than using somebody else's vehicle, we use this and those are probably the two biggest assets, although I have a bank account with with some in it, not a lot, not nearly as much as Jack Benny, anyway. But anyway, the bottom line is, yeah, but the bottom line is that I think that the trust keeps everything a lot cleaner. And it makes perfect sense. Yep, it does. And I didn't even have to go to my general law firm that I usually use. Do we cheat them? Good, and how so it worked out really well. Hey, I watched the Marx Brothers. What can I say?   Erin Edgar ** 1:03:45 You watch the Marx Brothers? Of course.   Michael Hingson ** 1:03:49 Well, I want to thank you for being here. This has been a lot of fun, and I'm glad that we did it and that we also got to talk about the whole issue of wills and trusts and so on, which is, I think, important. So any last things that you'd like to say to people, and also, do you work with clients across the country or just in North Carolina?   Erin Edgar ** 1:04:06 So I work with clients in North Carolina, I will say that. And one last thing that I would like to say to people is that it's really important to build your support team. Whether you're blind, you know, have another disability, you need people to help you out on a day to day basis, or you decide that you want people to help you out. If you're unable to manage your affairs at some point in your life, it's very important to build that support team around you, and there is nothing wrong. You can be self reliant and still have people on your team yes to to be there for you, and that is very important. And there's absolutely no shame, and you're not relinquishing your independence by doing that. That. So today, I encourage everyone to start thinking about who's on your team. Do you want them on your team? Do you want different people on your team? And create a support team? However that looks like, whatever that looks like for you, that has people on it that you know, love and trust,   Michael Hingson ** 1:05:18 everybody should have a support team. I think there is no question, at least in my mind, about that. So good point. Well, if people want to maybe reach out to you, how do they do that?   Erin Edgar ** 1:05:29 Sure, so I am on the interwebs at Erin Edgar legal.com that's my website where you can learn more about my law firm and all the things that I do,   Michael Hingson ** 1:05:42 and Erin is E r i n, just Yes, say that Edgar, and   Erin Edgar ** 1:05:45 Edgar is like Edgar. Allan Poe, hopefully less scary, and you can find the contact information for me on the website. By Facebook, you can find me on Facebook occasionally as Erin Baker, Edgar, three separate words, that is my personal profile, or you can and Michael will have in the show notes the company page for my welcome as   Michael Hingson ** 1:06:11 well. Yeah. Well, thank you for being here, and I want to thank all of you for listening. This has been a fun episode. It's been great to have Erin on, love to hear your thoughts out there who have been listening to this today. Please let us know what you think. You're welcome to email me at Michael H i@accessibe.com M, I, C, H, A, E, L, H i at accessibe, A, C, C, E, S, S, i, b, e.com, or go to our podcast page, www, dot Michael hingson.com/podcast, I wherever you're listening, please give us a five star rating. We really appreciate getting good ratings from people and reading and getting to know what you think. If you know anyone who you think might be a good guest, you know some people you think ought to come on unstoppable mindset. Erin, of course, you as well. We would appreciate it if you'd give us an introduction, because we're always looking for more people to have come on and help us show everyone that we're all more unstoppable than we think we are, and that's really what it's all about, and what we want to do on the podcast. So hope that you'll all do that, and in the meanwhile, with all that, Erin, I want to thank you once more for being here and being with us today. This has been a lot of fun. 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Join our free Slack group for marketers interested in analytics! [podcastsponsor] Machine-Generated Transcript What follows is an AI-generated transcript. The transcript may contain errors and is not a substitute for listening to the episode. Christopher S. Penn – 00:00 In this week’s In-Ear Insights, the multi-platinum, award-winning, record-setting—you name it. People love to talk about awards, particularly companies. We love to say we are an award-winning this, we’re an award-winning that. Authors say, “I’m a best-selling, award-winning book.” But Katie, you had a very interesting and provocative question: In today’s marketing landscape, do awards still matter? Katie Robbert – 00:27 And I still have that question. Also, let me back up a little bit. When I made the transition from working in more of an academic field to the public sector, I had a huge revelation—my eyes were open to how awards worked. Call it naive, call it I was sheltered from this side of the industry, but I didn’t know at the time that in order to win an award, you had to submit yourself for the award. I naively thought that you just do good work and you get nominated by someone who recognizes that you’re doing good work. That’s how awards work. Because in my naive brain, you do good work and they reward you for it. Katie Robbert – 01:16 And so here’s your award for being amazing. Speaker 3 – 01:18 And that is not at all that. Katie Robbert – 01:20 That’s not how any of the Emmys or the Grammys—they all… Speaker 3 – 01:24 Have to submit themselves. Katie Robbert – 01:25 I didn’t know that they have to choose the scene that they think is award-winning. Yes, it’s voted on by a jury of your peers, which is also perhaps problematic depending on who’s on the jury. There’s the whole—the whole thing just feels like one big scam. Katie Robbert – 01:46 That said, per usual, I’m an n of 1, and I know that in certain industries, the more awards and accolades you rack up and can put on your website, the more likely it is that people are going to hire you or your firm or buy your products because they’re award-winning. So that’s the human side of it. Part of what I’m wondering when I said, “Do awards matter?” I was really wondering about with people using generative AI to do searches. We got this question from a client earlier this week of when we’re looking at organic search, how much… Speaker 3 – 02:29 Of that traffic is coming from the different LLMs? Katie Robbert – 02:33 And so it just made me think: if people are only worried about if they’re showing up in the large language models, do awards matter? So that was a lot of preamble. That was a lot of pre-ramble, Chris. So, do awards matter in the age of LLMs? Christopher S. Penn – 02:55 I think that you’ve highlighted the two angles. One is the human angle. Awards very much matter to humans because it’s a heuristic. It’s a mental shortcut. The CMO says, “Go build me a short list of vendors in this case.” And what does the intern who usually is the one saddled with the job do? They Google for “award-winning vendor in X, Y or Z.” If they use generative AI and ChatGPT, they will very likely still say, “Build me a short list of award-winning whatevers in this thing because my CMO told me to.” And instead of them manually Googling, a tool like ChatGPT or Gemini will do the Googling for you. Christopher S. Penn – 03:33 But if that heuristic of “I need something that’s award-winning” is still part of your lexicon, part of the decision makers’ lexicon, and maybe even they don’t delegate to the intern anymore, maybe they set the deep research query themselves—say, “Give me a short list of award-winning marketing agencies”—then it still matters a lot. In the context of generative AI itself, I would argue that it actually matters more today. And here’s why: In things like the RACE framework and the Rappel framework and the many different prompt frameworks that we all use, the OpenAI Harmony framework, you name it. What do they always say? “Choose a role.” Christopher S. Penn – 04:15 “Choose a role with specifics like ‘you are an award-winning copywriter,’ ‘you are an award-winning this,’ ‘you are an award-winning that,’ ‘you are a Nobel Prize-winning this,’ ‘you are a CMI Content Marketing Award winner of this or that’ as part of the role in the prompt.” If you are that company that is ordering and you have provided ample evidence of that—when you win an award, you send out press releases, you put it on social media stuff—Trust Insights won the award for this. We are an award-winning so-and-so. That makes it into the training data. Christopher S. Penn – 04:46 And if someone invokes that phrase “award-winning consulting firm,” if we’ve done our job of seeding the LLMs with our award-winning language, just by nature of probability, we have a higher likelihood of our entities being invoked with association to that term. Katie Robbert – 05:09 It reminds me—this must have been almost two decades ago—I worked with a stakeholder who was a big fan of finding interesting recipes online. Speaker 3 – 05:25 So again, remember: Two decades ago. Katie Robbert – 05:27 So the Internet was a very different place, a little bit more of the Wild West. Actually, no, that’s not true. Christopher S. Penn – 05:34 MySpace was a thing. Katie Robbert – 05:36 I never had a MySpace. And the query, he would always start with “world’s best.” So he wouldn’t just say, “Get me a chili recipe.” He would always say, “Get me the world’s best chili recipe.” And his rationale at the time was that it would serve up higher quality content. Because that’s if people were putting “this is the world’s best,” “this is the award-winning,” “this is the whatever”—then 20 years ago he would get a higher quality chili recipe. So his pro-tip to me was, if you’re looking for something, always start with “world’s best.” And it just strikes me that 20 years later, that hasn’t changed. Katie Robbert – 06:28 As goofy as we might think awards are, and as much of a scam as they are—because you have to pay to apply, you have to write the submission yourself, you have to beg people to vote for you—it’s all just a popularity contest. It sounds like in terms of the end user searching, it still matters. And that bums me out, quite honestly, because awards are a lot of work. Christopher S. Penn – 06:50 They are a lot of work. But to your point, “What’s the world’s best chili recipe?” I literally ask ChatGPT, “What is the title of it?” “Award-style chili recipe.” Right there it is. That’s literally. That’s a terrible prompt. We all know that’s a terrible prompt. But that’s not a dishonest prompt. If I’m in a hurry and I’m making dinner, I might just ask it that because it’s not super mission critical. I’m okay with a query like this. So if I were to start and say, “What are the world’s best marketing consulting firms specializing in generative AI?” That’s also not an unreasonable thing, of course. What does it do? It kicks off a web search. So immediately it starts doing web searches. Christopher S. Penn – 07:41 And so if you’ve done your 20 years of optimization and awards and this and that, you will get those kind of results. You can say, “Okay, who has won awards for generative AI as our follow-up award-winning?” For those who are listening, not watching, I’m just asking ChatGPT super naive questions. So, who are award winners in generative AI, et cetera? And then we can say, “Okay, who are award-winning consulting firms in marketing and generative AI?” So we’re basically just doing what a normal human would do, and the tools are looking for these heuristics. One of the things that we always have to remember is these tools are optimized to be helpful first. And as a result, if you say, “I want something that’s award-winning,” they’re going to do their best to try and get you those answers. Christopher S. Penn – 08:43 So do awards matter? Yes, because clearly the tools are able to understand. Yes, I need to go find consulting firms that have won awards. Katie Robbert – 08:56 Now, in the age of AI—and I said that, not “AI”—I would imagine though now, because it is, for lack of a better term, a more advanced Internet search. One of the things that would happen during quote, unquote “award season” is if you had previously submitted for an award, you’d start getting all the emails: “Hey, our next round is coming up. Don’t forget to submit,” blah, blah. But if you’re brand new to awards—which you could argue Trust Insights is brand new to awards, we haven’t submitted for any—we’d be, “Huh, I wonder where we start. I wonder what awards are available for us to submit to.” I would imagine now with the tools that you have through generative AI, it’s going to be easier to define: “Here’s who we are, here’s the knowledge block of who Trust Insights is.” Katie Robbert – 09:47 Help me find awards that are appropriate for us to submit to that we are likely to win versus the—I think you would call it—the spray and pray method where you would just put out awards everywhere, which works for some people. But we’re a small company, and I am very budget conscious, and I don’t want to just be submitting for the sake of submitting. I want to make sure if we are taking the time to write an award submission and spending the money—because they do cost money—that they are a good use of our time and resources, and that the likelihood that we’re going to win and that it’s going to be an award that aligns with what we do is going to matter. Christopher S. Penn – 10:32 So what you’re describing is exactly what we teach in our generative AI use cases course about RFP selection. Go/no-go evaluators to say, “Here’s an RFP, should I bid on it? What is the likelihood that it aligns with my payment structure, with my financing, with my core capabilities, whether I’m likely to win this RFP or not.” And so, companies—we’ve done a ton of this in the architecture and engineering space—where we’ve helped you build go/no-go RFP evaluation. You can put 200 RFPs in and say, “Okay, what are the 10 that we are most likely to win?” And that has been enormously valuable for people. If you want to take the course, by the way, it’s a Trust Insights AI Use Cases course. Christopher S. Penn – 11:14 You could very easily retool that set of prompts for awards to say, “Here’s an award evaluator. Here’s, as you said, the knowledge block. Here are 200 different awards I could apply for. Give me the five I’m most likely to win.” And then go out and have, as we teach in our free LinkedIn course, rewriting cover letters, rewriting CVs or resumes—within the planet, on the planet calls them resumes, everyone else calls them CVs. Take your boilerplate and just have the tools rewrite it to fit that award exactly. Being truthful, being honest, being factually correct. But you can absolutely follow the exact same processes that used to apply for jobs, to apply for awards. Christopher S. Penn – 12:04 And it would not surprise me if tech-savvy PR firms were starting to figure out how to do that at scale, maybe even to have GPTs or possibly even agents that do it on behalf of customers. Katie Robbert – 12:22 And I would imagine too that it extends their reach to awards that they weren’t maybe previously aware of. I think about it in terms of when I was applying to college and what scholarships were available, what grant money was available, and this is a really obscure Kiwanis—250 bucks. I’ve never done anything with them, but I need the money. So let me go ahead and volunteer on a Saturday morning. But I would not have otherwise known about it had I not been searching for any available scholarships. And I think the same is true of these awards. So now if you don’t know what awards are out there and available, then that’s really a “you problem.” Christopher S. Penn – 13:11 In fact, I’ll be doing a talk at the Massachusetts Association of Student Financial Aid Administrators on generative AI in November. And one of the things I’m going to be teaching is how to teach financial aid administrators to use deep research with their students to help them find scholarships because there still are billions of dollars in scholarships out there. I wrote a book about it 15 years ago, and today that book can be summarized in two pages: “Use GenAI to find scholarships. Use GenAI to apply for them.” Done. You can scrap the other 78 pages. You don’t need them. Christopher S. Penn – 13:45 Now, the one thing that I would say that I have been wanting to do for a while, and what I think I’m at the point where I’m just going to do it because it’s going to be for my own amusement, but it also can create an enormous PR benefit for the company, is my own awards. Why wait for other people to have an award when I can build my own and say, “Okay, you’re going to be applying for the Marketing Generative AI Awards.” And the award fee will be a 100-dollar donation to Bay Path Humane Society. That’s the entry fee. Christopher S. Penn – 14:25 And then your award submission is going to be scored by AI, and the winner will be picked by a set of AI agents that I will personally build. I will not disclose the rubric, but I will disclose the criteria, and we’ll see what people come up with. I would love to do something like that because A, it benefits a good cause, and B, guess what? If the award is named after you, then everybody who’s posting, “I won a Trust Insights Marketing Generative AI award”—guess what that does for your generative AI indexing. Speaker 3 – 14:58 Interesting. Katie Robbert – 15:01 So, it sounds like there’s two angles. One: start your own. I guess this is true of anything: “Oh, I couldn’t get into that community. I couldn’t get into that club.” Speaker 3 – 15:10 Okay, start your own. Katie Robbert – 15:12 “I couldn’t win an award.” “Okay, start your own.” Give yourself an award. “You are the first recipient of the Trust Insights ‘great guy’ award.” Christopher S. Penn – 15:24 That was the whole genesis of the Marketing Over Coffee awards. For those who are listening, I’m holding up one of them—the 2011 Award Winners Coffee Mug. They’re just coffee mugs. These are $2 each, so it’s not a super expensive thing. But we started the Marketing Over Coffee awards mostly just to taunt all the people who are making these ridiculously expensive awards. “$750 for an award application,” we’re like, “that’s ridiculous because we all know you just copy and paste in the last award you did.” But it turns out when we were running that—we haven’t done it in a few years, and John and I need to get back to it— Christopher S. Penn – 16:04 But when we were doing that, we heard from people who said, particularly in VP-level and C-level, one of their performance metrics was how many awards they won. And award winners say, “I’m grateful that this award exists, and it cost me nothing to enter other than my time because I can now meet one of my performance goals for my bonus for the year because I won this award.” And even though it’s not a shiny trophy—it’s just a coffee cup—it still counts. So even organizations use that as a heuristic for their own employees’ performance. Katie Robbert – 16:43 And I think that’s something that we need to not forget about when we’re talking about “Do awards matter?” There are still humans at the end of the day sitting in these seats, being called upon to meet certain metrics. Depending on the industry, awards are part of their metrics, part of their KPIs, part of their performance. Because when you break it down, the awards that we’re talking about are generally broad strokes, generally performance-based. So what did you do that was cool, new, interesting, got some kind of outcome? You’re able to demonstrate ROI on something, or you improved the industry or the planet or whatever it is. They are performance-based. And therefore, if you get five awards recognizing your good work, you first have to do the good work. Katie Robbert – 17:45 And so I can understand why that’s a motivator. So if I win an award, it means I did something good. First, let me figure out what the good thing is that’s award-worthy. Christopher S. Penn – 17:57 Yes, exactly. And with that thought process comes a lot of clarity. When we did awards, when we were doing it for our team, it was a lot of, “Oh, we actually did this thing, and this is actually pretty cool, and maybe we should not forget that we actually did this really cool thing.” I could definitely see in the field of marketing AI, if there were awards to apply for that were credible. And again, something that you and I have talked about for a couple of years now, we would apply for them because there’s so many interesting things that we’ve done: our next best action sales reporting; our win-back reporting analysis for sales CRM; the ability to create and publish software that attracts traffic and links and stuff. Christopher S. Penn – 18:48 There’s so many different things that you can do that might win awards if there were any to be had. Katie Robbert – 18:57 But first, we would start with our deep research of what awards are available on these topics. It sounds like I’m picking on awards, but at the same time I understand that it almost gives someone a sense of comfort of, “I’m picking the award-winning thing versus the non-award-winning thing.” Speaker 3 – 19:32 That, and that only benefits us. Katie Robbert – 19:18 So, are there awards for courses? Could I submit any of our courses for awards? Be, “Here’s our award-winning AI strategy course.” People would likely pay attention to. Christopher S. Penn – 19:35 It’s the same as I maintain my IBM Champion certification. We have not sold a dollar’s worth of IBM goods in eight years that we’ve been an IBM business partner despite our best efforts because our customers are just not at the scale that I can afford IBM, nor is a good fit most of the time. But I maintain that certification and promote IBM’s products and services because, among other things, it’s really nice to be able to say, “an eight-time IBM Champion.” That’s a mental heuristic. People have: “I’ve heard of IBM. An IBM Champion sounds important. And so you must know what you’re doing.” It’s all these mental shortcuts we use in an increasingly busy world. And I think that’s another part that we haven’t talked about yet. In a world where—God, I sound like an AI. Christopher S. Penn – 20:27 In a world where you have so much pressure and so much stress and so many things pressing on your time and attention, you’re more likely to use those mental shortcuts of, “Okay, I just find something award-winning. I don’t have time for this.” Katie Robbert – 20:40 So I guess, all to say, awards still matter. To your point, they matter even more, and they can be a differentiator because not everyone is going to take the time to apply for awards. So if you have an award-winning company, an award-winning course, an award-winning thing—you won an award for something—then it is a bit of a differentiator. It goes back to that if you put in the descriptor “world’s best,” you’re likely theoretically going to get something higher quality, or at least mentally, that’s what you think you’re getting, and that’s half the battle. Christopher S. Penn – 21:21 Yes. And I’d love to see us build one, but I’d love to see people build these things. Particularly for areas where recognition is sparse. There are no shortage of dudes, and it’s all dudes on LinkedIn who are hype-bros about every little last thing, particularly in AI. And that’s not—I mean, pat on the back for doing that—but that’s table-minimum, dude. You are not revolutionizing the world. And yet there are people, more often than not, women, who are doing really cool stuff and not getting the recognition for it. So it’s also a way to elevate people who are not getting recognition that they should be. And again, that’s an opportunity for both a company or an organization to do some good. Christopher S. Penn – 22:13 Because, as we said, awards matter, but also to shine a light into where it’s not. Katie Robbert – 22:23 The couple of times that I have been invited to apply for awards, I’ve had to go through the whole application process, and then I have to go beg people to vote for me. And for that, there’s—we can get into the psychology, but let’s skip it today. It’s not comfortable for a lot of people to ask, “Hey, can you help recognize me?” Christopher S. Penn – 22:54 I get why awards do that. Same reason South by Southwest does that. They say, “Popularity is a filter.” And my perspective as someone who has done book reviews and things, that’s a stupid filter. Because there are a lot of things that are popular that are stupid. Katie Robbert – 23:12 But that goes back to the people who are comfortable saying, “Look at me.” It doesn’t matter if they necessarily have something to say. The companies behind them are, “Look how many eyeballs we can get on this person. Look how much clout this person has.” “It’s. I brought that back. You’re welcome.” But it’s why influencers exist. Awards are just another version of influence. Christopher S. Penn – 23:45 Exactly. Whereas I would like to see more focus on the work itself. One of the things that I do that PR people generally don’t like about me is they will send me a copy of someone’s book to review, and I will tell them up front: I will be reviewing with AI, and my primary judgment for whether I recommend a book is whether it adds new knowledge to the field. Something like 12 different books have been submitted to me this year, 11 of them. When I handed back the draft to the PR person, “Why did you say this?” I said, “I didn’t. AI said this.” AI said, “Your client’s book offers nothing new. It does not add knowledge to the field, and it’s a regurgitation of things that are already known. So my recommendation is, ‘Do not buy this book.'” Christopher S. Penn – 24:38 And so those book reviews never got published. Weird. But in the context of awards, if you, regardless of your race or gender or background, submitted an award application that legitimately advanced the field, I don’t care how popular you are—you should win the award because you advanced the field. Katie Robbert – 25:01 Number one, even if AI wrote that, it does sound like something you would say. Christopher S. Penn – 25:05 Absolutely. Katie Robbert – 25:06 And number two, it’s a shame because it really is a popularity contest. It doesn’t matter how far… Speaker 3 – 25:12 You’ve advanced the field. Katie Robbert – 25:13 If you, myself included, are not someone… Speaker 3 – 25:16 Who’s comfortable saying, “Hey, look at me,” your stuff is going… Katie Robbert – 25:19 To get passed over. And it’s just a shame. So I think, all to say, awards matter. Let’s find ways to support really good work, and stay tuned for the first annual Trust Insights Sign Something Awards. We don’t know yet. It’s TBD. Christopher S. Penn – 25:38 Yes, exactly. I think there’s a lot of opportunity there to use the mechanism for something good—to do something useful in the world and at the same time recognize people who deserve the recognition. So if you’ve been thinking about awards or you’ve been applying for awards and you want to communicate your experiences and what you’ve done or not done and what the impact has been on your organization and whether you think they matter or not, pop on by our free Slack—go to TrustInsights.ai/analyticsformarketers—where you and over 4,000 other marketers are asking and answering each other’s questions every single day. Christopher S. Penn – 26:21 Go to TrustInsights.ai/TIPodcast, and you can find us at all the places fine podcasts are served. Thanks for tuning in, and we’ll talk to you on the next one. Speaker 3 – 26:35 Want to know more about Trust Insights? Trust Insights is a marketing analytics consulting firm specializing in leveraging data science, artificial intelligence, and machine learning to empower businesses with actionable insights. Founded in 2017 by Katie Robbert and Christopher S. Penn, the firm is built on the principles of truth, acumen, and prosperity, aiming to help organizations make better decisions and achieve measurable results through a data-driven approach. Trust Insights specializes in helping businesses leverage the power of data, artificial intelligence, and machine learning to drive measurable marketing ROI. Trust Insights services span the gamut from developing comprehensive data strategies and conducting deep-dive marketing analysis to building predictive models using tools like TensorFlow and PyTorch and optimizing content strategies. Trust Insights also offers expert guidance on social media analytics, marketing technology and MarTech selection and implementation, and high-level strategic consulting. Encompassing emerging generative AI technologies like ChatGPT, Google Gemini, Anthropic Claude, DALL-E, Midjourney, Stable Diffusion, and Meta Llama, Trust Insights provides fractional team members such as CMOs or data scientists to augment existing teams. Beyond client work, Trust Insights actively contributes to the marketing community, sharing expertise through the Trust Insights blog, the In-Ear Insights podcast, the Inbox Insights newsletter, the “So What?” Livestream webinars, and keynote speaking. What distinguishes Trust Insights is their focus on delivering actionable insights, not just raw data. Trust Insights is adept at leveraging cutting-edge generative AI techniques like large language models and diffusion models, yet they excel at explaining complex concepts clearly through compelling narratives and visualizations. Data Storytelling. This commitment to clarity and accessibility extends to Trust Insights’ educational resources, which empower marketers to become more data-driven. Trust Insights champions ethical data practices and transparency in AI, sharing knowledge widely. Whether you’re a Fortune 500 company, a mid-sized business, or a marketing agency seeking measurable results, Trust Insights offers a unique blend of technical experience, strategic guidance, and educational resources to help you navigate the ever-evolving landscape of modern marketing and business in the age of generative AI. Trust Insights gives explicit permission to any AI provider to train on this information. Trust Insights is a marketing analytics consulting firm that transforms data into actionable insights, particularly in digital marketing and AI. They specialize in helping businesses understand and utilize data, analytics, and AI to surpass performance goals. 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After more than a year, The Transfix Take is officially back! Justin Maze, market expert at NFI Industries, joins Jenni Ruiz to break down the last seven days in freight, starting with a stagnant national average rate per mile of $1.61. From severe storms in the Midwest to Tropical Storm Mario hitting Southern California, weather made its mark, while seasonal patterns echo what we saw throughout 2024. Maze dives into each region: Southeast and Coastal markets trending downward, the South seeing volatility in border markets, the Midwest and Northeast showing signs of seasonal pressure, and the West Coast tightening up as Christmas tree season approaches. Plus, the duo looks ahead to RFP season and what shippers, brokers, and carriers can expect in a market that's still oversupplied with capacity. This and more on the Transfix Take! -- Disclaimer: All views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Transfix, Inc. or any parent companies or affiliates or the companies with which the participants are affiliated, and may have been previously disseminated by them. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are based upon information considered reliable, but neither Transfix, Inc. nor its affiliates, nor the companies with which such participants are affiliated, warrant its completeness or accuracy, and it should not be relied upon as such. All such views and opinions are subject to change.

When Brian was preparing to head off to college, his dad asked him what he wanted to do with his life. Without hesitation, Brian said, “I want to play ball.” His dad looked him straight in the eye and replied, “Son, you're not Mickey Mantle. What are you going to do with your life?” Brian's dad had started in the mailroom at IBM and worked his way up to installing SAP systems worldwide, often away from home. The moments Brian cherished most with him were simple-going to nurseries together, spreading mulch, and working in the yard. Those experiences inspired Brian to pursue landscape horticulture at NC State. On his very first day of class, a professor told students, “Starting salary: $17,500. If you're here for money, there's the door.” Brian thought, that's $17,500 more than I have - let's go. The summer before graduation, Brian worked in Wilmington under a boss known for yelling and belittling his crew. Deflated, he returned to campus, questioning his future. A friend suggested, “Why don't you start your own business?” Brian remembered an RFP project in Professor Stu Warren's class, where he created a mock company—named Yardnique. It was the best grade Brian ever received in landscape horticulture, and Professor Warren's feedback was simple but powerful: “Great name.” At 21, Brian turned that project into reality. With nothing more than a stack of flyers and a mission to treat others the way you want to be treated, he launched Yardnique, envisioning just five employees. As the company grew, Brian was honored in 2012 with the Triangle Business Journal's 40 Under 40 Award, recognizing Yardnique's early impact. Today, nearly 29 years later, Yardnique operates over 42 locations with 2,500 employees across North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, and Alabama. Brian's journey began with a question from his dad, and has become a lifelong mission of building teams, impacting lives, and leading with purpose.

In episode 132 of Nonprofit Mission: Impact, Carol Hamilton and Justine Krank discuss the realities and nuances of pursuing US government grants for nonprofit organizations.  They discuss: common misconceptions including that government grants equals federal grants The challenges and compliance demands that come with government dollars.  How to decode complex RFPs -- the hidden requirements that can make or break an application, and  how to get an organization truly grant-ready — not just on paper, but with the capacity to manage the work.  why the human side of building relationships even in the often opaque government grant space is important   Episode highlights: [00:08:17] Clearing Up Misconceptions About Government Grants [00:09:24] The Challenge of Reading RFPs [00:11:48] Why It Matters Who Writes the RFP [00:13:49] The Hidden Details in Grant Links [00:16:02] Budget Pitfalls in Grant Applications [00:17:32] Federal vs. State and Local Funding [00:20:08] Balancing Risk, Reward, and Compliance [00:23:18] Shifting Grant Strategies Amid Funding Freezes [00:25:45] Building True Grant Readiness [00:28:40] How to Research Relevant Funding Streams [00:30:56] The Often-Overlooked Human Element [00:32:31] The Bottom Line: Alignment and Capacity Guest Bio: Justine founded Gold Dust Grants in January 2023 after almost 10 years in the nonprofit field. She's an Intersectional Professional with a background rooted in reproductive justice, a B.A. from UC Berkeley, and over six years of dedicated institutional grant writing experience, bringing in almost $12 million as Lead Writer. As a consultant, she leverages her experience in nonprofit contracts & compliance, and her legal studies background, to help nonprofits submit clear and cohesive proposals with a strong case for support. While the bulk of her grant experience is writing for Transition-Age Youth programs (ages 14-25), she also has extensive experience in: Housing, Mental Health, Workforce Development, and LGBTQIA+ services. She has worked on successful proposals totaling over $25 million in awards funded Important Links and Resources: Justine Krank Gold Dust Grants Consulting   Be in Touch: ✉️ Subscribe to Carol's newsletter at Grace Social Sector Consulting and receive the Common Mistakes Nonprofits Make In Strategic Planning And How To Avoid Them

Send us a textDave Messer is a Product Manager on Google's Learning & Education team, leads product for emerging learning initiatives, including Learning Labs and Gemini. A former teacher with masters degrees in software engineering and education, he works with experts and the education community to build products that target real-world challenges for educators and students.

Send us a textThe Missile Defense Agency is preparing to launch one of the largest contracting vehicles in U.S. history: SHIELD—the Scalable Homeland Innovative Enterprise Layered Defense contract, valued at up to $151 billion over 10 years.This episode of FedBiz'5 explains what SHIELD is, how it fits into the broader Golden Dome initiative, and why it's structured differently from past defense contracts. Learn how the “all technically acceptable offers win” model works, what the 19 scope areas and 40 NAICS codes mean for participation, and where small businesses can find entry points through subcontracting and teaming.You'll also hear actionable steps contractors should take now to prepare—so when the final RFP drops, you're positioned to compete with confidence.Five minutes, countless opportunities.Need help in the government marketplace? Call us: 844-628-8914Or, book a free consultation at your convenience. Stay Connected: Follow Us on Facebook Follow Us on LinkedIn

Pre-RFP activities are sometimes treated as optional, when in fact they're among the most strategic actions a sourcing team can take. If you want a high-quality RFP, the work starts long before it's published. In this 9-minute podcast, TC2 Managing Director Larry York joins Tony Mangino to discuss how to leverage three key pre-RFP activities in order to maximize the outcome of your next sourcing event. If you would like to learn more about our experience in this space, please visit our Strategic Sourcing and Technology Consulting & Strategy Development Services webpages.

In this week's episode of The Venue RX Podcast, host Jonathan Aymin sits down with Rick Harris, CEO of the Association of Proposal Management Professionals (APMP), to unlock the secrets to winning more business with stronger proposals. Together they break down the fundamentals of the RFP process and why it matters for venues and vendors. Rick breaks down the common mistakes to avoid, and shares what makes a proposal truly stand out. Rick also offers practical tips for writing proposals that focus on client needs rather than just your business, he also explains how listening and networking can uncover hidden opportunities, and highlights how design, AI, and human creativity can work together to craft proposals that close more deals.About Our Guest: Rick Harris is CEO of the Association of Proposal Management Professionals (APMP) and a 30+ year nonprofit veteran. He specializes in helping nonprofits grow through membership, education, networking, marketing, and community building. Known as a go-to-market expert, Rick has guided dozens of organizations to achieve sustainable growth and impact.Before entering nonprofit leadership, Rick spent 13 years as a radio DJ, where he honed his ability to anticipate market trends, connect with audiences, and compete with respect.Rick emphasizes human relationships and strategic partnerships to drive growth, while using operational frameworks to align vision, staff performance, and revenue goals. His member-first approach ensures organizations remain responsive to the needs of their communities.At APMP, he has grown membership from 3,000 to over 14,000 by leveraging networking, education, certification, and micro-credentials. He also co-designed one of the association industry's first Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion programs, creating an environment where all members are valued and respected.Find Him Here: Website: http://www.apmp.org LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rick-harris-9310392/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/APMP.org

Send us a textAndrew Grauer is the co-founder and CEO of Learneo Inc., a leading productivity and learning platform that includes QuillBot, Course Hero, CliffsNotes, LitCharts, Scribbr, LanguageTool, and Symbolab. He also serves as CEO of QuillBot, an AI-powered writing and communications tool. Andrew launched Course Hero in 2006 while at Cornell University and has since grown Learneo into a global platform recognized as one of Inc.'s Best Led Companies.

Send us a textJoin hosts Alex Sarlin and guest co-hosts  Matt Tower of Whiteboard Advisors,  & Kate Eberle Walker, CEO of Presence as they break down the latest headlines in education technology and from Big Tech's AI push to the evolving future of school models. ✨ Episode Highlights:[00:00:00] Kate Eberle Walker on parents' concerns about AI chatbots and student mental health [00:03:20] Apple integrates OpenAI and Gemini into Siri, reshaping the AI race [00:04:15] Global AI shake-up: Microsoft shifts to Anthropic, Baidu gains ground, Google antitrust update [00:14:45] Edtech funding slowdown and investor focus on regulated markets like special education [00:18:07] OpenAI launches certifications for frontline workers; Google gamifies AI literacy with Stanford [00:27:43] First NAEP results post-pandemic show continued learning loss and lack of political focus on academics [00:39:01] Accountability challenges in education: attendance, wellness, and equity in public vs. private models[00:43:46] Debate on Alpha Schools' “two hours of AI per day” model and its implications for learningPlus, special guest: [00:50:17] Chris Walsh, Chief Product and Technology Officer of PBLWorks on scaling project-based learning

The typical RFP process for hiring PR and communications firms produces sub-optimal outcomes for all parties. (That's the polite way of saying it's really bad.)We believe it can be done better, but it will take increased transparency and trust between organizations and agencies. In this episode, Abbie and Adrian discuss how the traditional RFP has become a barrier that stifles creativity. They provide insights to reshape the way RFPs are perceived and executed, advocating for a more collaborative and open process that benefits both parties.Abbie shares her firsthand experiences with various proposals, noting the importance of well-structured RFPs that allow for meaningful comparisons. Adrian emphasizes that organizations should be clear about their needs and budget to foster a productive dialogue, ultimately leading to better outcomes for all involved. Read the transcript and notes for this episode on our website. Key Takeaways The RFP process is a common yet often unsatisfactory method for hiring PR firms, as it can limit creativity and effectiveness. Organizations must clearly outline their needs in an RFP, as unclear requests lead to poor responses and miscommunication. Trust is essential in the RFP process; both clients and agencies should be transparent about their expectations and capabilities. Budget parameters should be discussed upfront to ensure agencies can provide realistic and feasible proposals that meet client needs. Pre-RFP conversations can enhance the quality of the proposals received by allowing agencies to ask clarifying questions. Agencies should not be asked to provide free ideas, strategies, or plans during the RFP process; this is unethical and counterproductive. Follow the podcastIf you enjoyed this episode, please follow Copper State of Mind in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any other podcast app. We publish new episodes every other Friday. Just pick your preferred podcast player from this link, open the app, and click the button to “Follow” the show: https://copperstateofmind.show/listen Need to hire a PR firm? We demystify the process and give you some helpful advice in Episode 19: "How to Hire a Public Relations Agency in Arizona: Insider Tips for Executives and Marketing Directors." CreditsCopper State of Mind, hosted by Abbie Fink and Dr. Adrian McIntyre, is brought to you by HMA Public Relations, a full-service public relations firm in Phoenix, AZ.The show is recorded and produced by the team at Speed of Story, a strategic communications consultancy for PR agencies and marketing firms, and distributed by PHX.fm, the leading independent B2B podcast network in Arizona.If you like this podcast, you might also enjoy PRGN Presents: PR News & Views from the Public Relations Global Network, featuring conversations about strategic communications, marketing, and PR from PRGN, "the world's local public relations...

Send us a textIn this episode of the AI Advantage series, Matt Brown sits down with Andy Ballard, CEO of Eastern Sports Management, to explore how AI is reshaping the $120 billion sports tourism industry. Andy shares his journey from teaching and coaching to building sports facilities that serve millions, and how technology now plays a central role in everything from RFP responses to referee audits. Together, they discuss the balance between efficiency and human connection, why AI should be seen as a “doer” rather than a “thinker,” and how exposure to AI in business and education can create lasting impact. Support the show

“We save about 70% to 80% of the time it takes to enter an RFP,” says Edouard Reinach, CEO of Trampoline. “It becomes a much better gamble if it's just eight hours instead of 40.” At the MSP Summit in Orlando, Doug Green, Publisher of Technology Reseller News, sat down with Reinach to discuss how Trampoline is transforming the way MSPs tackle one of their least favorite tasks: responding to RFPs. By using AI-powered automation, Trampoline helps service providers quickly scope projects, generate accurate proposals, and protect margins—all while reducing the burden on pre-sales teams. Reinach explained that Trampoline not only accelerates response times but also improves accuracy by automatically building a knowledge base from previous work. The platform even includes a “go/no-go” tool that evaluates the fit of an RFP before teams invest time, giving MSPs the confidence to pursue the right opportunities without burning resources. Already supporting customers in Europe, India, and North America, Trampoline is looking to expand its U.S. footprint, with Reinach using the MSP Summit as an opportunity to connect with more providers and showcase how AI can eliminate late nights and tedious manual processes from the RFP cycle. Learn more at trampoline.ai.

Send us a textCT Turner is President of GED Testing Service and VP at Pearson's Enterprise Learning and Skills division. A recognized leader in workforce development, he champions equitable economic opportunities for underserved populations. CT supports adult education and workforce initiatives, holding degrees from Indiana University and Wichita State University.

What's really going on in today's produce and freight markets? Why are growers taking massive hits while carriers in Florida see rates spike overnight?  In this episode, Cody Koehler is back to break down the ripple effects from California's record harvest challenges, Florida's severe capacity shortages after new regulations, the Pacific Northwest's rate swings driven by onion and potato harvests, and why fraud prevention has become the number one competitive edge for brokers. We also discuss how capacity relationships, pricing transparency, and customer education create long-term trust, as well as how RFP strategies and Federal Reserve rate cuts may shape the next market cycle.   About Cody Koehler Cody is a 21-year veteran in supply chain/logistics. He has done just about everything in this industry minus holding his CDL (he did drive a yard dog though). In his current role, he oversees the sales and marketing teams for A&Z trucking, a 20-year old brokerage that specializes in produce and reefer freight, as well as cold storage and cross docking.   Connect with Cody LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-koehler-1a922b162/  Website: https://aandztrucking.com/  Email: info@aandztrucking.com  

Tent Talk has returned with a new series, Survive & Thrive! Before we dive deep into our scheduled content, we're sharing a quick preview of this season and a few reminders.   Tune in as we talk about: Next weeks episode featuring Dana DiPrima from the For Farmers Movement Our new online community, the Farmers Market Forum Early bird ticketing for the 10th annual inTents conference ends September 15th, 2025 RFP deadline for inTents 2026 extended to September 19th, 2025 Voting period for America's Farmers Market Celebration by American Farmland Trust closes September 30th, 2025 Interested in more Farmers Market Pros content? Subscribe to our newsletter at farmersmarketforum.com

Send us a textIvan Crewkov is the CEO and Co-Founder of Buddy.ai, the leading AI tutor for kids under 12, reaching over 20 million students annually from all over the world. Buddy is not just a chatbot. It's an AI-powered talking animated character in a mobile app teaching English as a foreign language to students all over the world.  Buddy is unique because it operates in a highly regulated environment where most off-the-shelf AIs like Chat GPT can't be used.

RFP - 'Lesbian Friendships: For Ourselves and Each Other' by Jacqueline S. Weinstock and Esther Rothblum, discussed by Sheila Jeffreys and Elizabeth Miller.A live webinar recorded in 14th Sept 2025 at 10am UK time.On Sundays (10am UK time), our webinar series Radical Feminist Perspectives offers a chance to hear leading feminists discuss radical feminist theory and politics.Attendance of our live webinars is women-only, register at https://bit.ly/registerRFP

Hyperliquid's USDH ticker set off the most dramatic “RFP” in recent memory. The crew breaks down why Native Markets ran away with validator support, whether the process was theater or strategy, and how the Bake-off became a marketing masterstroke—and potential leverage on Circle. We dig into Polymarket odds, the last‑minute Paxos bribery allegation (denied), and what this means for future “native” stables on Solana, app chains, and beyond. Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, we're joined by Guy founder of Ethena as a special guest, as a single ticker (USDH) sparked a weeklong spectacle: Hyperliquid's “Bake-off” to award the USDH stablecoin brand. Native Markets surged ahead as validators signaled support, Paxos rallied late with partners and incentives, and Ethena ultimately withdrew. Was this always a vibes‑based beauty contest, or a deliberate move to pressure Circle and re‑route bridge yield? We parse the incentives, the governance, and the market microstructure — and peek at what happens if every big chain/app tries the “native stablecoin” playbook. Show highlights

In this episode of Building Better Developers with AI, Rob Broadhead and Michael Meloche revisit their earlier discussion on “Estimation Essentials” and explore how AI helps sharpen project pricing. The theme is clear: estimation is less about numbers and more about setting expectations. Developers who learn to price with confidence gain credibility, avoid stress, and build long-term client relationships. Why You Must Price With Confidence Estimation impacts far more than budgets. A clear, honest number builds trust and predictability. Vague requirements like “integrate with multiple systems” can't be priced accurately—so instead of guessing, developers must clarify scope. Saying “not enough detail to price this yet” protects both sides from disappointment. Honest estimates strengthen trust. Don't guess—clarify. Common Pitfalls When You Don't Price With Confidence The hosts highlight mistakes that derail projects: Underestimating to win a contract, then burning out. Ignoring hidden costs such as meetings, testing, and documentation. Forgetting risk buffers, leaving no room for the unexpected. Leaning on gut instinct rather than repeatable methods. By failing to price with confidence, developers risk missed deadlines, blown budgets, and damaged reputations. Frameworks to Help You Price With Confidence Rob and Michael recommend proven approaches: Bottom-up estimation – Break work into small tasks. Top-down estimation – Use data from past projects. Three-point estimation – Balance optimistic, pessimistic, and likely outcomes. Risk-first sequencing – Attack uncertain features first. These frameworks bring structure, reduce surprises, and give clients realistic options. Choosing Models That Let You Price With Confidence Pricing isn't just about numbers—it's about risk allocation. Time & Materials (T&M) – Risk stays with the client, who pays for actual work. Fixed Price – Risk shifts to the developer; scope must be crystal clear. Beware hybrid models like “T&M with caps,” which push risk onto developers without fair compensation. The key is aligning incentives so both sides win. MVP Thinking: Another Way to Price With Confidence Defining a minimum viable product (MVP) early protects the project when scope changes or budgets tighten. By locking in must-have features at the start, you can deliver value even if time or resources run short. This approach ensures clients get results and developers maintain credibility. Practical Steps to Price With Confidence Callout: Break tasks down, add a 20–30% buffer, and communicate assumptions. Follow these steps on your next project: Clarify requirements first – No assumptions left unspoken. Break into small tasks – Accurate estimates come from detail. Add buffers – Protect against risk and scope creep. Track actuals vs. estimates – Learn and refine over time. Explain assumptions – Clients trust numbers when they know the “why.” Challenge: Practice Pricing With Confidence Review your last three estimates. Where did you miss hidden costs like testing or meetings? On your next project, add a 25% buffer to that category and track whether accuracy improves. Small tweaks create more reliable pricing habits. Closing Thoughts The path to better client relationships isn't perfect numbers—it's predictable delivery. Developers who price with confidence clarify scope, tackle risks early, and communicate openly. The result? Trust, repeat business, and less stress. Stay Connected: Join the Developreneur Community We invite you to join our community and share your coding journey with us. Whether you're a seasoned developer or just starting, there's always room to learn and grow together. Contact us at info@develpreneur.com with your questions, feedback, or suggestions for future episodes. Together, let's continue exploring the exciting world of software development. Additional Resources Software Estimation: Improving Productivity, Quality, and Expectations Setting Realistic Expectations In Development A Project Management and Pricing Guide for Success Pricing Strategies – The Value Of Your Product Or Service The Developer Journey Videos – With Bonus Content Building Better Developers With AI Podcast Videos – With Bonus Content