Jubilee Freedom & Shalom

In this episode Daniel and Nate discuss traveling to Iceland, the realizations that island life brings, the wonder of the water cycle, what are your wildest kingdom dreams, Wolf Hilbertz, mineral accretion, Biorock, Seacrete, Brendon Grimshaw buying an island and restoring it for endangered species, how to use sunlight and ocean water to grow natural concrete that will emerge from the water as a new island, and what you would do if you were in charge of your own growing island. What plants would you plant? What animals would you bring to the  island? What would you build homes out of? What type of culture and society would you like to form? What would be your requirements for new citizens to live on your island? All that and more on today's episode!Support the show

In this episode Daniel and Nate wrap up their reflections on the story of Mars Hill. There are so many lessons to be taken away from the Mars Hill story and we hope that our discussions have helped you process this information along with us.  We hope that it helps us all reflect on what a truly godly leader looks like and our own obsession and attraction to celebrity, power, and pride. Power corrupts and and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Let's all remember that as we build communities of faith and make decisions about systems of accountably.  Churches can do so much damage and there can be a legacy of dead bodies under and behind the bus, but that's not what we are called to, and by the grace of God I hope we can slow down, value people over organizations, value faithfulness over efficiency, and be people whose fruit ultimately is Jubilee, freedom, and shalom. Support the show

Episode 11: The TempestIn this episode Daniel and Nate discuss the end of Mars Hill and how things started to unravel in the staff and in the congregation as a whole. How could something that was growing so fast and was so big come unraveled in just 12 months time? The cracks in the foundation caused by past misdeeds and mistreatments of people were starting to show and the weight of the large staff and mega church they built upon that foundation caused everything to crumble and fall quickly. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

Episode 10 “Red Sky at Morning”This is the 3rd act of the Mars Hill play. The “Resurgence” was the blog/website that Mars Hill ran and recruited big name pastors and christian authors to write articles for. Now that Mars Hill had defined and built the brand it was time to learn how to distribute the brand."Brand implies value. You're as good as the person you're standing beside." How has technology changed our ecclesiology?  Our Worship? In the new era of internet tech, Mars Hill wasn't confined by how big a building they could build or how many services you could preach on one Sunday. They could preach to the whole world through the internet and the whole world could attend recorded services throughout the week. Technology has always shaped the church. From amphitheaters in classical greek times to the printing press and the Reformation to circuit riding preachers in the wild west to radio, tv, internet, and now Holograms, technology has allowed us to communicate with more people across space and time. The ability to stream sound and video to other locations has led to "Multisite Churches", a preachers have become little “a”apostles that have influence on many congregations. But this leads to the question, what's the difference between an audience and a congregation? When the preacher isn't there in person and the praise team isn't there in person and you're walking into a room with a big screen that everything comes through, is that still church?Mars Hill's plan was to stream Mark out to the new satellite campuses and put their branded media all over social media, track the numbers, and open new campuses in towns that had over 1,000 weekly listeners, and repeat. Mark wanted to use this strategy to get to 50K members, and for a time it was working. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

Episode 10 “Red Sky at Morning”This is the 3rd act of the Mars Hill play. The “Resurgence” was the blog/website that Mars Hill ran and recruited big name pastors and christian authors to write articles for. Now that Mars Hill had defined and built the brand it was time to learn how to distribute the brand."Brand implies value. You're as good as the person you're standing beside." How has technology changed our ecclesiology?  Our Worship? In the new era of internet tech, Mars Hill wasn't confined by how big a building they could build or how many services you could preach on one Sunday. They could preach to the whole world through the internet and the whole world could attend recorded services throughout the week. Technology has always shaped the church. From amphitheaters in classical greek times to the printing press and the Reformation to circuit riding preachers in the wild west to radio, tv, internet, and now Holograms, technology has allowed us to communicate with more people across space and time. The ability to stream sound and video to other locations has led to "Multisite Churches", a preachers have become little “a”apostles that have influence on many congregations. But this leads to the question, what's the difference between an audience and a congregation? When the preacher isn't there in person and the praise team isn't there in person and you're walking into a room with a big screen that everything comes through, is that still church?Mars Hill's plan was to stream Mark out to the new satellite campuses and put their branded media all over social media, track the numbers, and open new campuses in towns that had over 1,000 weekly listeners, and repeat. Mark wanted to use this strategy to get to 50K members, and for a time it was working. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

Episode 9 “The Bobby Knight Problem”Pastor Ted Haggard from the Documentary "Jesus Camp" got caught doing meth with a male prostitute. Why pastors have sexual moral failings? Mark said it was because pastors' wives let themselves go and weren't willing to have open  and exciting sex with their husbands. Do the ends justify the means? Is it better to lose or to hold onto our morals and ethics? Bobby Knight normalized abusive behavior. Building fear keeps people from coming against you. James McDonald lost his job for domineering and bullying just as Bobby Knight did. The modern expectation of what we are getting from a church… for the church to be big enough to deliver on our evangelical expectations of “church”, the people who believe that they can deliver on those expectations and can endure what it takes to grow an organization  to that point are often the most unhealthy people.If Bobby Knight will throw a chair across a basketball court with everyone watching and it being taped, what would he do behind closed doors? And if Mark Driscoll is willing to say wild stuff during a sermon on a Sunday morning, what do you think he's like behind closed doors when not everyone gets to hear what he has to say?The Latin word for media just means the middle and that's what media is; it's the thing that stands in the middle that everything gets interpreted through, like a lens, and there's not a major church in America today that doesn't mediate and show a certain version of itself and is it really good at that. A lot of people say the hardest person to hire for a mega church is the media person. Churches are firing youth staff so they can hire more media people. What does that say about a church? They know the dangers of people not really knowing you and what social media can do to people but at the end of the day they still upload their sermon every Sunday and push send.How has our mediated way of connecting and communicating with people added to the culture of isolation that we are part of?Everyone wants to be princess Diana and everyone wants to be Mother Theresa. Anyone can be Mother Teresa but not everyone can be Diana and marry a prince, but the reason we won't be the next Mother Theresa is because we don't want the suffering and humiliation that comes along with affecting peoples lives through the Jesus way because that way and path involves suffering.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

Episode 8 "Demon Hunting"Humans have a deep longing to believe in something. We are spiritual beings  “made a little lower than the angels” and we seek to put that longing somewhere, but sometimes we want to believe so bad that we choose to overlook red flags.Enter Mark Driscoll saying, “I see things, people committing sins, people being abused, people being raped, I have visions, I had prophetic vision, God told me, the Spirit told me, I had a prophetic dream”. How do you deal with someone who leverages this type of language to back their ideas, the path they want to take, and the path they want you to take with them, when you feel like the things they are saying are not Godly and you are seeing and sensing a lot of red flags. Where do you draw the line?"Demon Trials” or deliverance ministry are approaches to spiritual warfare where a minister would try to confront demons in people's lives that caused various issues. Putting the people and the demons on trial and trying to confront them with confession and truth.Most of the stories Mark would share about demonic possession were about women and he even went so far as to say, "Paul says women are the weaker vessel. Maybe that's the case. He says women are more easily deceived. I know most feminists don't like those verses… and if they are true it means those women are deceived haha, which is kinda funny(laughter). Satan didn't even show up to attack Adam until he was married…” I think if we did a deep dive on the passage from Peter, the original language, the historical and cultural context, and in light of Jesus breaking the curse of sin and death, the power dynamic between men and women, it would show that this assertion is really a stretch, a low blow, and a really convenient mistreatment of scripture that just happens to work in Mark's favor. Are most of the demonic possession stories in scripture about females? What is the male/female ratio in scripture?Demonic possession verse medical care and medication? Should we find the answer in repenting, prayer, and pastors or meds and therapists? Is all suffering a result of sin?The hierarchy at Mars Hill was children, women, husbands, pastors, Mark, God. there's always someone between a person and God and I am depending on them to cure me and talk to God for me. Jesus warned about demanding signs but that didn't stop him from doing them but it did challenge us to find satisfaction in something other than signs and miracles.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

“Nehemiah was beating up members of his church. What do we do with that? I'll tell you what I'd like to do with that. I'd like to follow in his example. There's a few guys right now, that if I wasn't gonna end up on CNN, I would go old testament on ‘em. Even men in leadership of this church” -Mark Driscoll speaking to his church family and people laughing the whole time. After this sermon Mark called an impromptu meeting with two pastors who were also elders and fired them on the spot because they looked at the new bylaws and didn't immediately pass them without reading them. They wanted to read them and make some potential edits, which is what they thought their lobs were as elders. The rules said Mark could fire them as employees but he couldn't take away their elder status so he tried to intimidate them into resigning or he would open up investigations against both of them hoping they would go away quietly. They refused and welcomed the investigations. They were found innocent and still got kicked out and the church was told to shun them and treat them as an unrepentant unbeliever. Imagine what their kids felt like watching the adults at their church do these things to each other. Accountability vs Speed when it comes to church governance and checks and balances. What's the best Church hierarchy or structure? Moses model with one guy calling all the shots? Elder run? Complete democracy with all members voting?So many things Mark says in this episode sound so level headed. "I'm just one vote among many. I submit to my senior pastor. This is not a dictatorship. Jesus is our senior pastor. I'm not saying I'm the spiritual leader… you do what I say. I think that's very abusive. When one person is the spiritual leader”. But that's exactly who he became and anyone who got in his way got railroaded. So, the question is did he ever mean what he said and he lost his way or was he lying so he could trojan horse the church and seize control when the right time came?Back then Mark's church was “Elder Ruled” and without denominational oversight. and Mark talked negatively about Pastor as CEO run churches and ripped on pastors who were too big to even know their members. But that's exactly who Mark became.Mark equated submission to Christ to submitting to the church leadership, which he aimed to take over. Dictators use the ability to declare a state of emergency to centralize power into smaller and smaller circles “until the crisis is over”. For Mark the constant emergency was people going to hell if the church didn't grow. If a church stops growing at 5,000, 10,000 or 15,000 people then people will stop being reached for Jesus. People will stop coming to Christ. As if Jesus or the Kingdom only needed you and your church to reach people. So, if you pumped the breaks on making decisions and weren't making decisions at breakneck speeds you were aiding and abetting Satan  and helping him send people to hell. You were the anti-Jesus Antichrist. “too many guys waste too much time trying to move stiff-necked stubborn and obstinate people. I am all about bless and subtraction. there is a pile of dead bodies behind the mars hill bus and by God's grace it will be a mountain by the time we are done. You either get on the bus or you get run over by the bus, those are the options but the bus ain't gonna stop. Yesterday we fired two elders for the first time in the history of Mars Hill last night. They're off the bus. under the bus. they were off mission so now they're unemployed. this will be the defining issue as to whether you succeed or fail. I've read enough of the new testament to know that occasionally Paul put somebody in the wood chipper.“ Mark Driscoll speaking at a pastors conference the day after he fired two pastors.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Christianity Today interviews several of the people that worked with Mark in the mid 90's that helped him find his platform online and focus his brand. The internet brought new insights through data. You could see how many people listened to his podcasts and his YouTube channel. When Mark made aggressions those numbers went up so if the ends justify the means then making more aggressions in your sermons meant more people listening and therefore more people "hearing about Jesus" and therefore more people accepting Jesus. “Did I give Mark his first hit of heroine by platforming him because he didn't have the maturity to handle it?”The internet has less gatekeepers to pursue fame. There's less cost, investment, maturity or track record required to get your content published. People can get big over night before they are really ready for it.Mark surrounded him self with people that came out of the media industry in Seattle and had an eye for branding and creating quality content. “If you are always repackaging movies like "Jesus is the real Superman" and adding some Christian flare to it you are always going to be 3-4 years behind culture at best sucking its tailpipe. You're just mimicking a culture when you should be creating a culture and you're doing a disservice to the original artists. It's lazy and I hate it so much.”Over time more and more of the church resources stopped going to ministries that supported the local church members and local community and started going to Mark's platform and external facing media channels. If the media team asked for it, they got it. More cameras, more staff, and more production gear. Mars Hill content was consistently trending #1 in the religion category in podcasts and YouTube. They had 3 "RED Cameras". These were the same cameras The Lord of the Rings were shot on. At the same time, the whole organization of NBC only had 2 RED cameras. At this time the media team grew to 60 staff and they built a studio and original scores written for their content etc. Mark used his platform to get into the conference speaking circuit. Older more mature pastors knew they had to recognize him because of his following online, but he made the older pastors worry because of the wild stuff he would say.  They hoped by welcoming him into their circles they could have an influence on him and he would mellow out a little. But Mark didn't want mentoring because he had outgrown them before he ever met them. His church was bigger and therefore he had nothing to learn from them. He was only interested in learning from people who had more. More absolute power within their churches, more people, and more money. And that's when he met James McDonald from Harvest Bible Chapel. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

"The Things We Do To Women"Mark's Vision for Women: if women wanted to have a good life and raise happy and healthy children, she should not work outside the home and should raise her children personally while her husband went out and made a living for them both. Families should buy houses, grow deep roots, and have lots of kids if possible. If women were interested in working outside the home, the advice was to get married, have another kid, and for men to lead their wives better. If a man's wife worked outside of the home, it was a disqualification to be in church leadership or to be an elder. Women were told to drop out of college because their job was to stay home and sexually satisfy their husbands.  If they denied their husband it was a sin. Men go to strip clubs is because their wives have not stripped enough for them and they have to get their fill somewhere. If women didn't keep their husbands sexually satisfied, men would look elsewhere for sexual satisfaction. So, if your husband cheated on you, it was really your fault for not being sexually available.This response was an echo of our fight against communism which was anti-family, anti-God, and anti-America and also the sexual revolution, which was also perceived as anti-family.“There is an intense femininity that has crept into Christianity. Islam is a masculine religion. That's why they run an airplane into the World Trade Center and we meet in Central Park in New York and we get men like Elton John to play the piano and cry. That's our response as a nation. Gay men with wigs cry because mean men with facial hair beat them." -Mark DriscollMark posed everything as a war and conflict. This was not only with the outside world but with the inside world of men and women. Someone had to dominate and men should be the ones. To be a woman meant to except that you would have to submit to a hierarchical structure. “You'd either be dominated by a good man or a bad one“.Mark did seem to have a very genuine care for women. He would drop everything to help a woman in need or a woman who had been abused, but what he put back in its place was being dominated by a good man as opposed to being dominated by an abusive one.Mark screams during a sermon and says, "How dare you! Who the hell do you think you are? Some of you guys are just so frustrating. Some of you guys have been coming here for years and you're still not praying with your wife. Some of you guys have been coming here for years and you still have your hands all over your girlfriend. Some of you have already whispered in her ear and said, 'I'm sorry. I'll do better.' Abusing a woman, neglecting a woman, being a coward, a fool, being like your father Adam. Who do you think you are! You are not God! You're just a man! You're not an impressive man! Some of you will hear this and your response will be, 'how dare you tell me how to live my life', but that's the Holy Spirit telling you you need to change, little boy.  You shut up, put on your pants, get a job, grow up and maybe one day you can love a woman." He did this at every service that day 5 times. It was planned and rehearsed and meant for tv in hopes to go viral. Mark would say things like, "thank God for my smoking hot wife." Teaching from Song of Solomon, Mark exclaims, "oral sex is Biblical!" "I am glad I was a part of a church that could speak openly about sexuality, but I am ashamed that we were a church that went beyond Scripture, with the same amount of authority, and the damage that it did to marriages and women." -Tim Smith pastor at Mars hill"To me it was a rape culture that was promulgated using Christianity as a means to create a culture where women are subservient sexually in a way that was totally evil." -Jeff Becker Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

This episode is the 4th of a series where Nate and Daniel are reflecting on the recent popular podcast called "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" by Christianity Today. The podcast follows the story of a pastor named Mark Driscoll and it is a cautionary tale about church growth and how celebrity effects people, especially people in power. In order for this episode to be more meaningful, we recommend first listening to "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" episode 4. Nate and Daniel reflect on questions like:William Wallace II was Mark's pseudonym that he used to say really crude things on the church's private chat board, Midrash. He posted saying the guys in his church were acting like male lesbians and needed to be put in dresses, beaten and humiliated. Men had weekly accountability meetings called "Redemption Groups" where men would say, “it's time for me to go to meeting and take a bat to the head or get kicked in the nuts" because it was a weekly bludgeoning about they need to grow up and be a man and get jobs and take care of their families.What does it say if your church's favorite movie is fight club? What does that reveal about the people in your church, what they are longing for and frustrated about, and what they think are the solutions?Mark was a mixed bag of being able to teach scripture and being very crude and vile. Example: his "Hoe Hoe Hoe" sermons about the 3 whores who are in Jesus' genealogy. Was Mark an agent of chaos just to get a rise out of people? Is that the way we should go about confronting sin in the community or making peoples' faith real to them? Saying crazy stuff and making people confront what they're hearing even if you don't agree with what you're saying just to force people to go through the act of understanding what they believe and how to communicate that back to what they're hearing. Does this bear good fruit and does your answer change in light of the prophets and how people responded to them?In the Men's meeting in the gym Mark gave men the "Dad talk" for 2 hours yelling at them saying things like, "You can't charge the gates of hell with your pants around your ankles, a tissue in one hand, and a bottle of lotion in the other" and that they needed to grow up, work hard at their jobs, and if they weren't on board with the mission of the church they needed to get out.Where in the Bible does it say men's jobs are to defend, protect, and kill if need be for their families? I've heard this said as a moral imperative and I have never heard it supported by scripture. I'd like to hear the scripture story or commandment that people use to build that view of manhood.What does it mean to “man up”? The Mars Hill answer was to protect wives, be strong, be warriors, be fighters, be providers, be responsible, be employed, be accountable, know your family role, and that was their definition of being servants. Why are these male only roles? And how did Jesus embody these qualities or not? Mark joined a church because the preacher used bow hunting as an story for his sermon and Mark said, “I didn't have any theological convictions, but if I guy can kill things he can be my pastor“. Why is a violent pastor worth submitting to? Should all pastors be willing to kill to serve effectively?What is the significance of Mark's repeated origin story? And that everyone at Mars Hill could recount it? What is your church's often repeated origin story? Does your church even have one? What do you think the downsides are of not having an origin stories that's often repeated? Is the origin story that is repeated about your pastor, the leadership at your church, or is it about Jesus? ...And much, much more.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

This episode is the 3rd of a series where Nate and Daniel are reflecting on the recent popular podcast called "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" by Christianity Today. The podcast follows the story of a pastor named Mark Driscoll and is a cautionary tale about church growth and how celebrity effects people and especially people in power. In order for this episode to be more meaningful, we recommend first listening to "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" episode 3. Nate and Daniel reflect on questions like:Do you think it's good or bad for churches to require ministry staff to have formal Bible or theology degrees? You think that people should be ordained by an organ or be able to ordain themselves and start their own church?"We pray to the sky fairy and say God Bless America, it's just some cosmic piñata we throw prayers at and hope good things come out of.  I can be a d*** about this, but anyone who preaches other gospels than Christ crucified or a watered down gospel can go to hell. Most modern philosophers are gay men and we swim in their stream too long we end up wearing pink and singing love songs to God, which is not advantageous when you're at WAR. There's a reason why in every major nation of the world and theology more women than men come to church. Your biggest problem is getting your men to give a s***. If you don't give them biblical masculinity, they will adopt a chauvinism.  They'll drink beer, nail women, pick fights, and they won't want to come to your church where you've got some Will and Grace worship leader and you've got a bunch of love songs for the sky fairy... we have to stop trying to be cool and be faithful”. -Mark Driscoll Several ministers in attendance started arguing with Mark because of his statements and eventually walked out of his conference breakout class. But Mark loved being provocative. Him and his staff would go out after moments like this and drink beers and laugh about other's poor theology and how offended they were when Mark spoke.Does a pastor have to assert his dominance and beat the crap out of you verbally and physically to prove he's a tougher, more violent man before you submit to his authority and his church? Is that how Jesus called his followers?During this time Mark shifted to calling himself reformed. He acted condescendingly towards those who held different theology beliefs. He made an offhand comment at another conference that “this conversation doesn't really matter, because God made some of you to be matchsticks anyways” It was the elect vs the damned in Marks's mind. That created a riff between mark and non-reform pastors, but also reformed leaders in the emergent movement. Mark was the classic "young restless reform movement" type, but after he left Mars Hill, Mark rejected Calvinism  and said it was for “little boys with father wounds”. Was Mark Driscoll just a chameleon or were those changes of mind and theology genuine?Mark would say my adrenals are shot. I'm running on fumes. I'm spent. I'm physically sick and worn down. If this is the fruit of “doing church”, are we going about it wrong?...And much, much more.Credit to "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" by Christianity Today for the content of this episode's discussion. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

This episode is beginning of a series where Nate and Daniel are reflecting on the recent popular podcast called "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" by Christianity Today. The podcast follows the story of a pastor named Mark Driscoll and is a cautionary tale about church growth and how celebrity effects people and especially people in power. In order for this episode to be more meaningful, we recommend first listening to "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" episode 2. Nate and Daniel reflect on questions like:-What is the history that fed into and led to Mars Hill and what other pastors influenced the culture at that time?  Robert Schuler had a  walk up/drive in church and later the Crystal Cathedral. He started the hour of power tv show  and preached “The power of positive thinking”. He was a friend of celebrities and powerful people. Mark Driscoll spoke at Schuler's church and joked about yelling and screaming for an hour and a half when he preached. The Vineyard movement took a page from the McDonald's playbook and ran with franchising the church model. All nondenominational and no systematic accountability. Willow Creek and Bill Hybels started in a movie theater preached the message of “we are better here and God is doing a special thing here that isn't going on in other churches”.-Mark Driscoll thought pastors were too feminine and too friendly. In the beginning he didn't like seeker friendly or seeker sensitive churches and said he wanted to be seeker insensitive. He didn't want to be a “have it your way” church. “We are hitting 1,000 members now and I'm wondering where my sin has come? It's my goal not to grow. Church growth is the turning of God into a product to be marketed to a customer.” -Mark Driscoll-Why do mega churches exist where they exist and when they exist? One commonality you find across theology and time is the SUBURBS. Moving into neighborhoods of people that make the same amount of money as you and it looks a lot like you and I have a lot in common with you. TV and radio and air-conditioning, all these technological advances allowed mega churches to become what they are today. Mega church pastors are good at playing to the predictable preferences of people in the demographic field of their suburban neighborhood and they leveraged those demographics please people. Rick Warren started before he planted his church studying demographics around California and narrowed down his plant site to four cities, then down to one city, and finally down to the fastest growing county in the city because he knew that's where the most growth of the suburbs would be and that's where the most people would need community and connection and he played off of that....And much, much more.Credit to "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" by Christianity Today for the content of this episode's discussion. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

This episode is beginning of a series where Nate and Daniel are reflecting on the recent popular podcast called "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" by Christianity Today. The podcast follows the story of a pastor named Mark Driscoll and is a cautionary tale about church growth and how celebrity effects people in power. In order for this episode to be more meaningful, we recommend first listening to "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" episode 1. Nate and Daniel reflect on questions like:-How does the mission of Mars Hill and several other mega churches match up to the true Gospel? What would Jesus think of that vision?-What made this vision stick and resonate? What within people drew them to that message?-The line, "...but, look at the fruit," comes up often in this story to justify the way people were treated, the way the church was run, and what Mark Driscoll was able to say from the stage; Is the fruit they speak of really fruit? What were they winning people to?...And much, much more.Credit to "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" by Christianity Today for the content of this episode's discussion. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

Nate and Daniel are back with Season 2 of the podcast after taking a summer break. In this episode, they spend time reflecting on what they've learned in the past couple months, what they're watching and listening to, and what they're excited to discuss on the show. Welcome back to Season 2 of the Jubilee, Freedom, and Shalom podcast!Instagram:@jubileefreedomshalomYouTube:Jubilee, Freedom & ShalomSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

BibleProject Podcast Episodes 149-153BibleProject God and MoneyBibleProject Video on GenerositySupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

Bible Project Podcast Episodes 149-153 Bible Project Story: God and Money The Bible Project's Video on Generosity  “MOST of the ugliness in the human narrative comes from a distorted quest to possess beauty. COVETING begins with appreciating blessings: MURDER begins with a hunger for justice. LUST begins with a recognition of beauty. GLUTTONY begins when our enjoyment of the delectable gifts of GOD starts to consume us. IDOLATRY begins when our seeing a reflection of God in something beautiful leads to our thinking that the beautiful image bearer is worthy of WORSHIP.”― Shane Claiborne, Jesus for President: Politics for Ordinary RadicalsSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate talk further about forming rich culture that's rooted in the story scripture and the side effects of hollow cultures and not taking the time to build sacred places in time. What are practices that draw our attention away from our busyness and the smallness our lives and lift our eyes toward God and His Son? How can we build cathedrals and temples in time that bring  attention  to the divine?God's Appointed Times by Barney KasdanHere's a podcast the Bible Podcast did on "Sabbath Rest and Cathedrals In Time" and here is the entire series on "Sabbath and Rest".  This whole series has been really impactful on Daniel and Nate and would bring a lot of context to this podcast conversation."Jewish Holidays"The "Poor Tithe"The "Sabbath Years"The "Jubilee"Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

This week Daniel and Nate take some time to talk Life Updates and Church Family Updates.Madison Church Garden is starting back up by students starting 1,800 seeds indoors. Big thanks Healing hands International for donating so many great seeds to get the garden going strong this year!Nate and Rachel paid off their last debt this month and can't wait to help others do the same. They started working on these 7 simple baby steps to financial freedom several years ago and even though Nate had cancer and alot of other health problems since they started the journey, they have finally made it to the last step!We are happy to announce that a JFS Listener has given a significant amount of money to stock the seed fund in order to start a Debt Annihilation Team at Madison! We are so thankful for this generous gift and we can't wait to see more and more people find financial freedom! We're doing it! We are DECLARING JUBILEE!! We can't wait to keep you updated on this effort as we start the DAT and get things moving!Church life is starting to restart and bloom again now that many have been vaccinated and can gather again.Daniel's ministry team takes on a new team member to work the kingdom fields. Daniel and Nate ponder why people feel disconnected and leave church families and what forces and cultures play into that.Daniel and Nate talk about budgeting our time and our resources to pursue freedom and flexibility to serve and help others.We've been listening to the Bible Project series on Priests and we encourage you to do that same! There are some great reflections there!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate talk about forming rich culture that's rooted in the story scripture and the side effects of hollow cultures and not taking the time to build sacred places in time. What are practices that draw our attention away from our busyness and the smallness our lives and lift our eyes toward God and His Son? How can we build cathedrals and temples in time that bring  attention  to the divine?God's Appointed Times by Barney KasdanHere's a podcast the Bible Podcast did on "Sabbath Rest and Cathedrals In Time" and here is the entire series on "Sabbath and Rest".  This whole series has been really impactful on Daniel and Nate and would bring a lot of context to this podcast conversation."Jewish Holidays"The "Poor Tithe"The "Sabbath Years"The "Jubilee"Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode, we hear a sermon from Daniel about the concept of the "Image of God.” We've talked about this on the podcast before, but in this sermon, Daniel circles back to the source of that idea and what that means for how we treat others. Additionally, Daniel calls his community to repurpose the New Years holiday because as it is, this holiday is pretty vague and empty. Like Nate and Daniel discussed last week, we seem to have a lot of those days and maybe we need to become a people who creates “cathedrals in time” as Dr. Tim Mackie puts it. Daniel speaks to that a bit in this sermon. Enjoy!https://bibleproject.com/explore/video/image-of-godhttps://bibleproject.com/explore/video/justicehttps://bibleproject.com/explore/video/heaven-and-earthhttps://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalomSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this Episode Daniel and Nate talk about a question asked on a recent Bible Project Q+R Podcast about Israel and the Church.  Here's a link to the whole "Family of God" series from the Bible Project Podcast. Here's a link to the specific episode we took our inspiration from for this conversation: E235 "Why Do Cain's Descendants Show Up After the Flood? Q+R"What is Replacement Theology or Supersessionism? What is the difference between Replacement Theology and Covenant Theology?Vintage21 video: "You had your chance... you blew it" Is that how God thinks of Israel and it is Christian's turn now to represent God? Or Christians have misrepresented God and it is Islam's turn.Do you think it's important to realize and remember that Jesus and the early church movement was Jewish? How does forgetting that Jesus was Jewish set us up for misunderstanding the narrative of scripture? Have you ever spent time with devout jews, messianic jews, or christian traditions that are very aware of their jewish roots ? What do you think christians can learn from Jewish practices and holidays?  Do you think christians carrying forward the celebration of holidays like Passover and the Festival of Tents would be helpful to understand Jesus and the story of scripture? What do you think the balance is between not knowing your story, knowing your story, and obsessing about having a family name and proving your ownership of it.  How far do you think we should go in weaving everything about our lives into the story of scripture? Is it ok for our holidays, days of the week, month names, etc to be rootless or echoing another story that has different answers to "Why are we here? Where are we going? Why is there so much wrong with the world? and What's the remedy?"Where will those other stories lead us? What will the rootlessness do to us?Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate talk about recent technology breakthroughs, how those things will impact our culture, and how the church will respond to those changes.Like what will be the implications gene editing becoming more and more affordable.   Here's a link to an article about a major leap forward with Hutchinson-Gilford progeria syndrome and gene editing. How far can we take gene editing and how could it be used to heal and change our bodies?  Will the church take a zero tolerance stance on gene editing because it is playing God or will we have a more nuanced response about the time and place to use this technology? After Tesla, Elon Musk, and others roll out full self-driving cars, will we need church parking lots anymore? Will we want to own cars anymore and deal with the maintenance and headaches? What will churches do with their unused parking lots? Will they turn them into gardens that are managed by Humanoid Autonomous Robots that garden, manage animals, harvest produce, eggs, milk, etc and can cook, process, store, and distribute these resources to the community?Nate and Daniel also discuss the implications of the Boston Dynamics dancing robots. It's not CGI. The video is totally real. Personal robots are coming to every home and business in this decade. Robots that can learn and work and help us and also put us out of the work we're doing today.  Is a machine that can do the job of 100 humans a good thing? Is our goal to replace humans in all systems possible and what would humans go on to do if those things are automated?Why are we here?Where are we going?Why is so much wrong with the world?What's the remedy?Here's a link to the book "When Helping Hurts" as you think about how you can really help those who are in need in ways that accomplish the intended goals. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode, Nate is preaching live on January 17th, 11 days after the insurrection at the United States capitol, the day before Martin Luther Kings Jr. Day, 3 days before the Inauguration of Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.,  with similar threats of insurrection being promised by opposition groups across the country at state capitals on Inauguration Day.Declare Jubilee, seek Freedom for all through Christ and his Way, so that all may enjoy and know Shalom. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate have an awesome conversation with Garrett Dickerson about Thrivent Financial, how the church handles money,  and what the church could accomplish if we all stewarded our money and resources wisely and shared it generously.Garrett and his wife, Kristin, live in Clarksville, TN with their three boys, Anders, Garron, and William. They worship together at the Hilldale Church of Christ, where Garrett serves as a Deacon for the congregation. Garrett and Kristin are both undergraduate and graduate alumni of Lipscomb University. His professional career has led him through the fields of education, health care, and finance, now serving as Regional Development Director for the South for Thrivent. Garrett and Kristin are co-founders of The Grant James Foundation. The Grant James Foundation operates as the benefactor to ministries that are focused in three areas: ·       Providing resources for and ministering to those families impacted by infertility, ·       Serving and ministering to those impacted by miscarriage, while raising awareness about the emotional, spiritual, and physical impact of miscarriage, and supporting research to better understand the causes and frequency of miscarriage·       Supporting the choice for life and ministering through that choice, as well as ministering through the post trauma of an abortion, and providing advocacy for abortion survivorsGarrett also serves as the Vice President of YFI, a community impact non-profit based in Montgomery County, TN, and hosts his own podcast, “The Garrett Dickerson Podcast.” Contact Information:·       Email:o   Garrett.Dickerson@Thrivent.com o   garrett@garrettdickerson.org·       Sites:o   https://www.facebook.com/GarrettDickersonPodcasto   http://gdickerson.podbean.com/o   https://www.facebook.com/The-Grant-James-Foundation-101173178366401o   https://www.facebook.com/YowFoundation·       Social Media:o   @RealGarrettDickerson on Instagrgamo   #PrayWithMeMonday or #MissionFieldSocialMedia on FacebookSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate have an awesome conversation with Garrett Dickerson about Thrivent Financial, how the church handles money,  and what the church could accomplish if we all stewarded our money and resources wisely and shared it generously.Garrett and his wife, Kristin, live in Clarksville, TN with their three boys, Anders, Garron, and William. They worship together at the Hilldale Church of Christ, where Garrett serves as a Deacon for the congregation. Garrett and Kristin are both undergraduate and graduate alumni of Lipscomb University. His professional career has led him through the fields of education, health care, and finance, now serving as Regional Development Director for the South for Thrivent. Garrett and Kristin are co-founders of The Grant James Foundation. The Grant James Foundation operates as the benefactor to ministries that are focused in three areas: ·       Providing resources for and ministering to those families impacted by infertility, ·       Serving and ministering to those impacted by miscarriage, while raising awareness about the emotional, spiritual, and physical impact of miscarriage, and supporting research to better understand the causes and frequency of miscarriage·       Supporting the choice for life and ministering through that choice, as well as ministering through the post trauma of an abortion, and providing advocacy for abortion survivorsGarrett also serves as the Vice President of YFI, a community impact non-profit based in Montgomery County, TN, and hosts his own podcast, “The Garrett Dickerson Podcast.” Contact Information:·       Email:o   Garrett.Dickerson@Thrivent.com o   garrett@garrettdickerson.org·       Sites:o   https://www.facebook.com/GarrettDickersonPodcasto   http://gdickerson.podbean.com/o   https://www.facebook.com/The-Grant-James-Foundation-101173178366401o   https://www.facebook.com/YowFoundation·       Social Media:o   @RealGarrettDickerson on Instagrgamo   #PrayWithMeMonday or #MissionFieldSocialMedia on FacebookSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate sit down with Pieter Valk and talk about human sexuality, discernment, marriage, vocational singleness, and how the Church engages these topics. Here's the link to the article Pieter wrote that we are discussing today: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2020/november-web-only/valk-case-for-vocational-singleness.htmlIf you are a church that is having a hard time talking about biblical sexual ethics, discernment, marriage, vocational singleness and how to have these conversations with parents and students, please check out https://equipyourcommunity.org/If you are someone who is trying to discern whether vocational singleness is for you, please reach out to Pieter and the Nashville Family of Brothers.Time parents spend raising children: https://www.bls.gov/charts/american-time-use/activity-by-parent.htmRatios of men and women in the church: https://ifstudies.org/blog/sex-ratios-in-the-pews-is-there-really-a-deficit-of-men-in-american-churchesBarna Group research about single christians: https://www.barna.com/research/trends-redefining-romance-today/ If you live in the Nashville, TN or Charlotte, NC areas and you are looking for a community of faith, please check out Madison Church of Christ or Providence Road Church of Christ. Let's keep these conversations going and get to workSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Nate preaches on the topic of God's Image and the impact that reality has on humans as we look in the mirror and ask, "Who are you?".  The sermon was a distillation of many things we discussed on the podcast. This was recorded live at Madison Church of Christ on 11/15/2020If you live in Nashville, TN, Charlotte, NC, or the surrounding areas and you don't have a church home, Nate and Daniel would love for you to join in the work going on at Madison and Providence Road as we pursue Jubilee, Freedom, & Shalom. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate continue to talk about the phrase "Image of God". What does it mean when the Bible says we were created in the image of of God? What would the life of someone grounded in that worldview  look like? What meaning and direction would come out of believing that all humans are made in the image of God? What would the Church be up to on a day to day basis if every member of the body of Christ was acting like the Image of God?In this episode we reflect on the "Character of God" and what He calls Himself in Exodus 34:6-7. If we want want to reflect Him, we have to know Him. To take a deep dive on the Character of God, check out this link from the Bible Project Podcast: https://bibleproject.com/podcast/series/character-of-god/Here's a link to Nate's Sermon on the Image of God. The sermon starts at minute 26.As you already know, we are heavily influenced by Jon Collins and Tim Mackie at the Bible Project and we would encourage you to check out their podcast series on the "Image of God" because they are true scholars and have a lot of great insights. For a quick overview check out this video they made: "Image of God"Image of God Part 1: Humans as Middle ManagementImage of God Part 2: God and Humans's MakeoverImage of God Part 3: The Garden Was Not PerfectImage of God Part 4: Glory of GodSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate continue to  talk about the phrase "Image of God".  What would the life of someone grounded in that worldview  look like? What meaning and direction would come out of believing that all humans are made in the image of God? How should humans answer "I am...." statements? I am hungry. I am an extrovert. I am a Democrat. I am depressed. Are these the things that God has spoken over us? What has God called us and are we speaking those "I am..." things over ourselves?As you already know, we are heavily influenced by Jon Collins and Tim Mackie at the Bible Project and we would encourage you to check out their podcast series on the "Image of God" because they are true scholars and have a lot of great insights. For a quick overview check out this video they made: "Image of God"Image of God Part 1: Humans as Middle ManagementImage of God Part 2: God and Humans's MakeoverImage of God Part 3: The Garden Was Not PerfectImage of God Part 4: Glory of GodSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate talk about the phrase "Image of God". What does it mean when the Bible says we were created in the image of of God? How would an ancient reader have received that statement? What would the life of someone grounded in that worldview  look like? What meaning and direction would come out of believing that all humans are made in the image of God?As you already know, we are heavily influenced by Jon Collins and Tim Mackie at the Bible Project and we would encourage you to check out their podcast series on the "Image of God" because they are true scholars and have a lot of great insights. For a quick overview check out this video they made: "Image of God"Image of God Part 1: Humans as Middle Management Image of God Part 2: God and Humans's MakeoverImage of God Part 3: The Garden Was Not PerfectImage of God Part 4: Glory of GodSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

Bible Project: Shalom English Peace1) freedom from disturbance; tranquility.2) a state or period in which there is no war or a war has ended.Biblical Peace is not JUST the absence of something, but a proactive presence of something.In Hebrew peace= ShalomIn Greek peace= EireneShalom= complete, whole, nothing missing, wellbeing, healthy, a state of balance or equilibrium To bring shalom= to make complete, to restore, to repay, to reconcile and heal, working together, to cooperate To truly experience shalom, we as humans must consider what we were made for and what would make us shalom. We must live into the role that God have given us all; to be a keystone species of all keystone species. (Genesis 1:26-29)What is a Keystone literally: top center stone of an arch. If removed it will crumble.What is a Keystone species: a species on which other species in an ecosystem largely depend, such that if it were removed the ecosystem would change drastically and cause a trophic cascade.Trophic Cascade:  an ecological phenomenon triggered by the addition or removal of top predators and involving reciprocal changes in the relative populations of predator and prey through a food chain, which often results in dramatic changes in ecosystem structure and nutrient cycling. Wendell Berry and road builders: Page 8-13 of "Art of the Commonplace"Humans can be anti-keystone species destroying shalom. We create trophic cascades in negative ways, but we don't have to be. It's not inherent to humans to be destructive, but in post industrial humans it is so common that it may make many of us believe that humans are always anti-keystone. Ex: Many native peoples learned to live more in line with shalom. The Amazon basin may be an example of native peoples creating a giant food forest.Wolves in Yosemite Beavers in the UKAllen Savory South Africa Elephants  Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate talk about getting the church out of debt so we can experience more freedom to serve each other in love. Jonny Rashid Pastor at Circle of Hope, PAMarguerite McDonald Director of Debt Annihilation TeamsWhat are Debt Annihilation Teams and how can I start one in my local context? Scripture behind the idea:Leviticus 25 "The Sabbath Year"Deuteronomy 15 "Release for Debtors"Deuteronomy 23:19-20 Proverbs 22:7 "The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is slave to the lender."Exodus 22:25Leviticus 25:35-37 Galatians 6:2Romans 13:8-10Christian Organizations that teach financial wisdom, offer curriculum, and mentor Dave Ramsey and the 7 Baby StepsThrivent FinancialEverence Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate talk about church architecture design inspired by their theology and how we could build buildings that preach loudly about who God is. From the atheistic of the space down to the behind the scenes utilities and everything in between. They even discuss what their faith in Christ compels them to do with their urine. Just listen to the podcast. It will make sense... hopefully.Why build a dome:Ancient DomesAdvantages of a domeBenefits of a domeWho is Michael Reynolds: What is an Earthship? What is the design?Buckminster Fuller and geodesic domes:Operating Manual for Spaceship EarthEverything I Know What is passive solar heating and cooling? CartoonWhat is our daily "solar allowance"? CartoonJohn Hardy: Building with BambooWendell Berry:The Art of the CommonplaceSex, Economy, Freedom, & CommunityThe Unsettling of America Joel Salatin: DocumentariesFreshFarmageddonBooks The Marvelous Pigness of PigsYou Can Farm How are humans living outside of our God-created nature?Watch the trailer for "Social Dilemma"Paul Wheaton:Rocket Mass HeatersHow they workSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate talk about Architecture informed by Theology. What would a church building look like that fully reflects your theology? How would it take shape? Would it look high church, low church, mobile church, house church, permanent location church, what's popular church, or maybe a north bermed, monolithic dome, south facing earthship, eco church?Paul Wheaton's Podcast 495 Permaculture Handbook Review “Any time we design anything, it is a moral action. Whether we embrace that truth or not, we bake our morals into everything we design.”So, what morals do you think the design of the churches you have been a part of espouse?Have you thought about the shape of the church building you meet in and what it is saying that it values and what the morals of the people who gather there are? Does your church building give center focus to the table, the lectern, the band, the baptismal, or all of the above?Do you think our church buildings address the triple bottom line? How does it affect the wallet, other people, and the environment?What if our theology leads us to build buildings that are not "up to code" or illegal?The Shaker Village at Pleasant Hill, KY How did the Shaker's theology shape their buildings?The Quaker's practice of silence, listening, and worship.Here's a brief explanation of biblical holy space design by Bible Project: TempleSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

Paul Wheaton's Podcast 495 Permaculture Handbook Review “Any time we design anything, it is a moral action. Whether we embrace that truth or not, we bake our morals into everything we design.”So, what morals do you think the design of the churches you have been a part of espouse?Bible Project Video: TempleGarden of Eden, Tabernacle, Temple: There is so much instruction for how to properly architect these places. Why? It seems like the spaces that God chooses to have his presence dwell are well designed and full of meaning/everything means something. So, why do we look at our sacred buildings differently? Why do we assume there isn't meaning involved in what we build?Do you think our church buildings address the triple bottom line? How does it affect the wallet, other people, and the environment?Alternate Building Techniques Bermed, Monolithic, Geodesic DomesSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate discuss bringing the the approach that Dexter applies to education into ministry in a local church context. Does it still work in a church setting? Yes? No? It depends? Listen to this episode and tell us what you think! Should the church stream in the preaching and hire local pastors and teachers instead?What is the Dexter approach? Click here to find out!Listen to Perry Noble and Matt Chandler consider the pros and cons of having a preacher on a screen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-HQB1cGuaoDo you think there is a difference between little "a" apostles and big "A" Apostles and do you think some christians are called by God to serve the church in this way today? https://www.christianitytoday.com/pastors/2008/spring/15.37.html Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

Dexter: Re-inventing Education ConversationHere's a great conversation with the CEO of Dexter and Zac and Jesse from "Now You Know": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5zIWw4gu8cDexter's Website explaining a "Full Stack" approach to education: https://dexter.live/Declaring Jubilee and Sabbath on the education system. If parents, students, teachers, and administrators are constantly stressed out and feel over extended, is that a sign that things need to be reworked?How does rethinking formal education make us rethink how we teach and do ministry?How does it challenge us in how we approach preaching and teaching on a congregational level? How should we share responsibilities on a congregational level? Here's a great conversation about that: The Elephant Room Round 1; Session 5Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

Practicing Justice in the ChurchCharles Lee “The Freeze Project” and LaundryLove.comWhat can the church do to “do justice and love mercy”? Micah 6:8Retributive Justice Should the Church hire Kingdom Lawyers to review and defend underserved and underrepresented individuals that are not getting justice?If the church does not have the means to hire someone full-time on staff, are there organizations already doing this work that the church can support? Ex: The Innocence Project and/or The Equal Justice Initiative? Restorative JusticeDebt Annihilation House Churches paying off each other's consumer debts after completing the personal debt snowball. Cancelling medical debt through organizations like RIP Medical Debt.“Baby Bonds” The Church would set aside $10,000 for children born into the congregation upon their birth. This would mature for 22 years into ~80k and it would be an effort to give all an equal opportunity as they start their adult life. We cannot control equal efforts made or equal outcomes, but we can provide an equal opportunity(Luke 19, Matthew 25). But one my ask, “should we just give 22 year olds money just for being born? Might this tempt the immature to follow in the footsteps of the prodigal son?” Galatians 5:13-15The Church should provide a curriculum of life changing experiences in order to shape the worldview of those that will take on the responsibility of these funds so that they will be as a blessing and not a curse unto them. The 7 ExperiencesClimb a mountain as a part of a “Trek” type ministry.Complete a significant sailing passage as crew with a ministry such as “God and the Sea”Go on a journey to the holy lands.Experience abject poverty.Attend a PDC & ATC and become certified in both at a location such as Wheaton Labs.Attend a building workshop through Domegaia, Bamboo U, Monolithic Dome Institute, Earthship Biotecture, etc. and build and live in a small structure for a month that demonstrates the building technique you have learned for the workshop and write a paper on the experience and what you would do differently if you were to build a forever home.  They would have to attend and pass a financial peace course with curriculum formed by a Christian organization such as Thrivent. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

Biblical Justice: What is it? "Justice" by the Bible Project“Vengeance Is Mine Says The Lord” vs “Vengeance Is Mine Says Me”Restorative Justice vs. Retributive Justice  “Retributive justice is a perspective that focuses on punishment for offenders, while restorative justice focuses on the relationship between the offender and the victim.”-Cain and Abel (Genesis 4)Retributive Justice has two sides Just Mercy/EJI Bryan StevensonJerry Mitchell/Tokens PodcastStruggle Sessions and the Knitting Wars“A struggle session was a form of public humiliation and torture that was used by the Communist Party of China (CPC) at various times in the Mao era, particularly years immediately before and after the establishment of the People's Republic of China and during the Cultural Revolution. The aim of a struggle session was to shape public opinion and humiliate, persecute, or execute political rivals and those deemed class enemies.In general, the victim of a struggle session was forced to admit various crimes before a crowd of people who would verbally and physically abuse the victim until he or she confessed. Struggle sessions were often held at the workplace of the accused, but they were sometimes conducted in sports stadiums where large crowds would gather if the target was well-known.” -Wikipedia Getting “Cancelled”“Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming.”“There's just something unsustainable about an environment that demands constant atonement but actively disdains the very idea of forgiveness” -Elizabeth BruenigSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate reflect on an interview of Naval Ravikant by Joe Rogan and the echoes of Godly principles heard in the interview. Here are links to some of the resources mentioned:-Joe Rogan and Naval Ravikanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qHkcs3kG44Naval's Podcasthttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/naval/id1454097755-First Principle Thinkinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV3sBlRgzTI-Joe Rogan and Pavel Tsatsoulinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm0GNWSKzYs"With my family I am a communistwith friends I am a socialistwith local level governments I am a democrat with state level governments I am a republicanand with the federal government I am a libertarian"-Nassim Nicholas TalebEveryone has bills and a boss… but we should be working towards having neither (1 Samuel 8 Israel asks for a king and God warns Israel that bills and and bosses will be the consequence)-BibleProject Sabbath (7th day ideal)https://bibleproject.com/explore/what-is-the-sabbath/-BibleProject “Jesus and His Jubilee Mission”https://bibleproject.com/podcast/jesus-and-his-jubilee-mission/ Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

Daniel and Nate reflect on the apocalypse we are living through and whether Jubilee, freedom, and shalom are still relevant in these extreme times. Here are links to some things mentioned: -BibleProject “Apocalyptic Literature” Podcast Serieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNDX4tUdj1Y-Medieval Pop songs-Nate is releasing a new single “Made”-Ravi Zacharias' Death-1619 podcasthttps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/1619-america-slavery.html-Joe Rogan Podcast w/ Naval Ravikant-Sanduk Ruithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVCfYGJV_2shttp://tilganga.org/-Just Mercy-Equal Justice Initiative and Bryan Stevenson-13th-Selma -Jerry Mitchell/Tokens Podcast-White Fragility by Robin DiAngeloSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate continue their conversation about Jesus, Sabbath, and the Mega-Sabbath; "The Year of Jubilee". They try to get into what it would look like for a group of Jesus followers to let the principles of Jubilee shape their lives and their lives together as a christian community. We would really encourage you to check you the Bible Project's video on Sabbath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFTLvkB3JLMAnd also check out the Bible Project Podcast Episodes 159-172 as they go deep into the subject of sabbath, holy sevens, and jubilee. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bibleproject/id1050832450What is a Geodesic dome and why is it so strong? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqxarO-5igcWhat is a Monolithic dome and why is it so strong? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w7KQFR8x3oAbsorption refrigeration; making ice with heat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA2rnw0OMeAWhat is planned obsolescence? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z1XYM7bC4kHow to get out of debt? Try reading "Financial Peace" by Dave Ramsey How are some people acting out Jubilee principles today? Check out RIP Medical DebtSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate talk about some life and ministry updates and then move into what does Jesus have to do with Sabbath and the Mega-Sabbath; "The Year of Jubilee". Why did Jesus launch his ministry on a Sabbath day and why did he read from the scroll of Isaiah?We would really encourage you to check you the Bible Project's video on Sabbath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFTLvkB3JLMAnd also check out the Bible Project Podcast Episodes 159-172 as they go deep into the subject of sabbath, holy sevens, and jubilee. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bibleproject/id1050832450THINGS WE MENTION IN THE SHOW:What is an Earthship? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj5NO32ahB0SV Delos Sailing: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvLc83k5o11EIF1lEo0VmuQWho is Paul Wheaton?Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/homesteading-and-permaculture-by-paul-wheaton/id426013000Websites: https://permies.com/ and https://richsoil.com/Paul's Book: Building a better world in your backyardSimply Christian by N.T. Wright“Image of God” podcast series by BibleProject“7th Day Rest” podcast series by BibleProjectBibleProject episode "Sabbath= a cathedral in time"Call or message us at (615) 852-6262 if you have something you want to add to the conversation!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate finish a conversation about the concept of Sabbath, Holy Sevens, the Sabbath and Release years, and the Mega-Sabbath; "The Year of Jubilee" or "The Year of the Lord's Favor" and how it applied to the nation of Israel, Jesus of Nazareth, and the Church. What would jubilee style world domination look like?"Jesus for President" by Shane Claiborne talks about the political nature of the Jesus MovementThe 7 more demons and the empty house parable:Matthew 12:43-45Luke 11:24-26Permaculture: the development of agricultural ecosystems intended to be sustainable and self-sufficient. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture"The Marvelous Pigness of Pigs: Respecting and Caring for All God's Creation" by Joel SalatinGreg Judy and restoring land with cattleSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate talk about some life and ministry updates and then move into the concept of Sabbath, Holy Sevens, Sabbath and Release years, and the Mega-Sabbath; "The Year of Jubilee" or "The Year of the Lord's Favor". We would really encourage you to check you the Bible Project's video on Sabbath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFTLvkB3JLMAnd also check out the Bible Project Podcast Episodes 159-172 as they go deep into the subject of sabbath, holy sevens, and jubilee. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bibleproject/id1050832450Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode Daniel and Nate talk about their personal, academic, and professional influences that shaped them as people and help listeners understand better where they are coming from and what is informing their perspectives. We encourage you to dive into these resources so we can understand each other better as we have conversations about how we can live out God's will on earth as it is in heaven.Tim Mackie and Jon Collins Bible ProjectWebsite: https://bibleproject.com/ YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/jointhebibleprojectPodcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bibleproject/id1050832450Workbooks: https://amzn.to/2xCHsRjCoffee Table Book: https://amzn.to/3eyeBhxShane Claiborne Irresistible Revolution: https://amzn.to/3csF5PPJesus for President: https://amzn.to/2RM3mbP Common Prayer: https://amzn.to/2XL2CaGLee C. CampWebsite: https://www.tokensshow.com/Mere Discipleship: https://amzn.to/2Kg5GU1Scandalous Witness: https://amzn.to/2xBlgH6Dietrich BonhoefferLife Together: https://amzn.to/2KaznGhThe Cost of Discipleship: https://amzn.to/34IqFshNT WrightSimply Christian: https://amzn.to/2RMFJzJSurprised by Hope: https://amzn.to/2wNfjGRCS LewisCollection of 8 most popular works: https://amzn.to/2xCMEohJohn Mark HicksCome to the Table: https://amzn.to/34QABQnResisting Bable: https://amzn.to/2KfJ7iw Kingdom Come: https://amzn.to/2VhkCaTEmbracing Creation: https://amzn.to/2RNYQJFEarl Lavender Living God's Love: https://amzn.to/2ROcFrsDavid LipscombOn Civil Government: https://amzn.to/2Vh6xKFMartin Luther King Jr. A Testament of Hope: https://amzn.to/3biPrRXMahatma GandhiThe Essential Gandhi: https://amzn.to/3erQXU9Wendell BerryThe Art of the Commonplace: https://amzn.to/2yqM10VSex, Economy, Freedom, & Community: https://amzn.to/2XFSmAtThe Unsettling of America: https://amzn.to/2Kqfv25Paul WheatonWebsite: https://permies.com/Building a Better World in Your Backyard: https://amzn.to/3bhRvtLThe Rocket Mass Heater Builder's Guide: https://amzn.to/3bjZPZP Permaculture Playing Cards: https://amzn.to/2zbpKF1Joel Salatin Fresh: https://amzn.to/2RNflFPFarmageddon: https://amzn.to/2xCLKYTThe Marvelous Pigness of Pigs: hSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)

In this episode we meet the hosts, Daniel Reed and Nate Hale, as they tell you about themselves, where they are coming from, and why they are starting this podcast. So, meet Daniel and Nate, and let's move on to conversations about jubilee, freedom, and shalom!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/jubileefreedomshalom)