Podcast appearances and mentions of Rick Warren

Welcome back to another episode of the unSeminary podcast. Today we're joined by Todd Wilson, co-founder of Exponential and a leader at Multipliers, where he helps churches and ministry leaders pursue multiplication and greater Kingdom impact. Todd has spent decades studying church planting, disciple-making, and movements, and his latest book, How Did We Get Here? Looking Back to Look Forward, explores the evolution of the American church growth movement and what it may mean for the future. Are churches working harder while reaching fewer people? Have our systems become better at producing activity than disciples? Todd challenges leaders to examine the operating system beneath modern church ministry and consider what needs to change if we want to see true reproduction and multiplication. We have a disciple-making problem. // For years, Todd has championed the goal of seeing more churches reproduce. Research once showed that fewer than 5% of U.S. churches were reproducing, and while that number has improved, multiplication remains rare. But Todd believes church planting is ultimately an outcome of a deeper issue: most churches do not have a functional culture of disciple-making. If disciples aren’t reproducing disciples, churches will struggle to reproduce churches. Reproduction has to become generational. // Multiplication begins when reproduction continues beyond the first generation. One disciple makes another disciple, who then makes another, and the process keeps going. The same is true with churches. A church plants a church, which plants another church, which plants another. Once reproduction moves across multiple generations, addition becomes multiplication and the potential for movement begins to emerge. The church growth system has slowly changed. // Todd’s research traces roughly 75 years of church growth history, beginning with missionary Donald McGavran. McGavran originally studied why some churches on the mission field grew while others did not and developed principles aimed at helping missionaries reach more people. Over time, those ideas moved into the American church and blended with seeker-sensitive ministry, the megachurch movement, purpose-driven strategies, multisite, church planting networks, and other innovations. Much good came from these eras, but Todd believes the system gradually shifted toward institutional and programmatic growth. Good intentions can still create the wrong outcomes. // Todd is careful not to blame previous generations of church leaders. Many of the people who shaped modern church ministry were deeply evangelistic and sincerely wanted to reach people. Yet over time, the dominant definition of success increasingly became bigger attendance, larger programs, and expanding organizations. The unintended result is a consumer-driven model that can attract people effectively but struggles to produce disciples who reproduce. The angst leaders feel is real. // Todd hears a growing frustration among pastors: churches are spending more money, employing more staff, and working harder while seeing less fruit. Even churches that appear successful can sense something isn’t right beneath the surface. Todd believes much of that angst comes from trying to produce multiplication through an operating system designed primarily for addition. Naming the problem is an important first step toward changing it. Leaders must model what they want reproduced. // Todd believes transformation has to begin with senior leaders. If disciple-making is going to become the church’s growth engine, lead pastors and elders must personally participate in a simple, reproducible disciple-making process. Rather than merely preaching about discipleship, pastors should be able to name the people they are actively discipling and allow those relationships to shape the way they lead and teach. Keep the process simple and reproducible. // Whatever model a church chooses, Todd believes it must be simple enough for anyone to reproduce. The goal isn’t another sophisticated program but a way of following Jesus that can move naturally from person to person. The same approach should work for a lead pastor, a volunteer, or even a teenager. Simplicity increases the possibility of multiplication. Give the next generation permission to experiment. // Todd isn’t calling churches to abandon everything they’ve inherited. Instead, he encourages leaders to learn from the past, retain what is fruitful, and recognize that the current operating system may be losing effectiveness. Churches should create space for younger leaders to experiment, learn, and discover more reproducible approaches to disciple-making without being forced to preserve every assumption of previous generations. To learn more about Todd Wilson, visit multipliers.org. You can also download a free PDF or audio version of How Did We Get Here? Looking Back to Look Forward at church-growth.org or pick up a paper copy on Amazon.com. In addition, check out Todd Wilson’s conversation with Carey Nieuwhof, and the interview A Simple & Scalable Way to Reproduce Christians with David Putnam. Thank You for Tuning In! There are a lot of podcasts you could be tuning into today, but you chose unSeminary, and I'm grateful for that. If you enjoyed today's show, please share it by using the social media buttons you see at the left hand side of this page. 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Rich Birch — If you do not know Todd Wilson, he has been the founding and co-founding member of a number of faith-based organizations, including Exponential and Multipliers. He has designed a number, and been a part of the launch of a multiple of national church planting networks. He’s currently a team member, or team leader at Multipliers and serves leaders and ministries who are pursuing multiplication, helping them develop vision and strategy ultimately for a 100 X impact. You know that I love that. Rich Birch — Recently, he wrote a book that caught my attention that I want to dive in on and kind of um unpack some of the core lessons for us today. It’s called, How Did We Get Here? Looking Back to Look Forward. And it’s really looking at the whole conversation, American church growth movement. Todd, welcome to the podcast. So glad you’re here.Todd Wilson — Rich, it’s great to be here with you. I’m really looking forward to this conversation.Rich Birch — Yeah, me too. So why don’t we start with kind of giving us a picture of Multipliers and the work that you’re focused on now, kind of set the context for us.Todd Wilson — Sure. It’s probably good to have the context, you know, at at my core, my own personal calling. I am an entrepreneurial engineer at my core. I love to envision, envisage opportunities, seek strategies and opportunities of the future. And so where I like to do it anywhere, there’s potential for a hundred X kingdom impact. And that’s what gets me in trouble often is the, wherever there’s potential for a hundred X kingdom impact.Todd Wilson — When I came out of the marketplace over 25 years ago into full-time ministry, the most natural hundred X place for me, in addition to being in the local church was, was church planting. I was just drawn to church planting. I got to spend almost 20 years, ah you know, leading Exponential and co-founding there.Todd Wilson — And in recent years, really trying to get even more focused really on the 100x impact. I want to spend my next decade as I’m getting older here, you know, what’s it look like for every hour, for every dollar, for every bit of energy, to see 100x return.Todd Wilson — And so the idea of Multipliers, and it’s a small team of us that, you know, we have a definite bias within the kingdom space to the disciple-making as the mission and engine of the church. And what’s it look like to get back to Jesus style disciple making. But then church planting and multiplication, what does it look like to be doing things that that are even capable of reproduction that can lead to multiplication and ultimately movement. So our goal is to just help champion at the personal level through personal calling, at the church level through disciple making and cultures of disciple making that can ultimately produce movements.Todd Wilson — And so we are a champion and advocate for that.Rich Birch — That’s fantastic. You and I are are similarly wired. And over the years, you know I’ve heard people talk about, you know, and they always they’ll do like a series at a church on spiritual gifts. And I’ve often wondered because of the kinds of things I’ve been involved in, if, you know, if I have some sort of apostolic gift, just because of the stuff I found myself doing and, you know, launching campuses and all that.Rich Birch — And it’s interesting that gift over the years I’ve heard, which is similar to the kind of work you’ve been doing over the years is the only gift that I’ve ever noticed that preachers, they seem to talk down about it. And they’re like, stop starting things like, you know, they’re like, they always, you know, are like on the negative side of, you know, being the guy who wants to be entrepreneurial and see new things.Rich Birch — And that’s a part of what I admire about you and the good work you’ve done. When you were at Exponential over those, you know, with you that you co-founded, you know, that almost 20 years, you know, they had this, they saw some amazing things happen there under your leadership, where this idea of moving church reproduction from under 5%, really trying to push us towards 16%.Rich Birch — So for people that are unaware of this, I think this is good context to kind of take a step back and talk about why that number, why are we actually, why are you giving decades of your life towards this idea of trying to move towards 16%? What do we mean by that when you you know talk about that? Because I think that’s a good foundational idea for today’s conversation.Todd Wilson — Yeah. I think it’s important it to understand, again, context for me. I didn’t grow up a Christian. I never had a dream to be in full-time vocational ministry. I’ve never wanted to be a lead pastor of anything. You know, ministry was the farthest thing from my mind growing up. When you’re asking kids, what do you want do when you grow up? Todd Wilson — So when God brought me into full-time vocational ministry, and I’m going to say kicking and screaming, I wanted to go start a company. I wanted to go make money. I wanted to go change the world. And so coming into full-time vocational ministry, why in the world would I want to see anything except movements happening? Rich Birch — That’s good.Todd Wilson — We read about movements in the New Testament. Why do I want to be personally satisfied if God’s calling me into a new life of ministry with anything less than seeing movements?Todd Wilson — And so that was my context of stepping in and and leading at Exponential and what was driving us. And your question from 5% to 16%. Well, Houston, we have a problem.Todd Wilson — If movements are multiplication, and multiplication is generational reproduction, and we, at the time we were starting Exponential, there were less than 5% of U.S. churches were reproducing. You just got to let that sink in.Rich Birch — Yeah.Todd Wilson — 95% of churches just 25 years ago, 95% of churches in the U.S. are not reproducing. It’s physically impossible, both mathematically and biblically, to see multiplication and ultimately movements if less than 5% of churches are reproducing.Todd Wilson — So the answer to where’s the 5 to 16, for me personally, God’s called me into a new life and a new ministry. I don’t want to be satisfied with just status quo, but the state of the U.S. church is such that we physically can’t see 100x impact in the operating system of how things are working. Todd Wilson — So the 5 to 16 was very simple. Let’s measure where we’re at. And so the 16% sociologists say that if you can get 16% of an audience acting a certain way, behaving a certain way, it will become normative for everyone else. I like to say, if you’re in a room and you start quacking like a duck to talk, if you can get 16% of the people in the audience quacking like a duck, then everybody’s going to communicate by quacking like a duck.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — And so it just became a conviction. Let’s move the needle from less than 5% to 16%. And then the language we would use is, at 16%, healthy church reproduction would become such a normative thing that we would see multiplication happening.Todd Wilson — Now, the little bit of an elephant in the room before we move on, church planting is just the outcome. So that 5% number, it’s an outcome of the system and what’s happening.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — The more ornery number is that the national studies that we did on what percentage of U.S. churches have a disciple-making culture. That’s also less than 5%.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — So 95% of churches don’t have a functional mission of disciple-making, and that’s their normative growth engine through disciple-making. So in reality, we have a disciple-making problem, not a church-planting problem. And so those two became very tied together, as as will become evident as we have this interview.Rich Birch — Yeah, absolutely. and And just can you define generational reproduction for folks that are listening in? When you when you when you say that, like, hey, we’re trying to move churches towards generational reproduction, kind of just unpack that a little bit more.Todd Wilson — Yeah, let’s let’s start at the personal level of disciple-making. If one person makes a disciple of another person, you’ve got one generation. If that person goes on to make another disciple two generations, that person makes a disciple three generations. We see that biblically. We see that in the leadership pipeline with Paul, that you know we need to see disciples who make disciples who make disciples.Todd Wilson — Once you get to the third or fourth generation of something reproducing itself, if you drew that on paper, one becomes two, two becomes four, four becomes eight, eight becomes 16. That is an exponential or a multiplication curve. So all you have to do to go from addition to multiplication is have healthy reproduction broad and wide multiple generations into the future.Todd Wilson — Now we just take that to the church level, a church that plants a church that plants a church that plants a church broad and wide.Todd Wilson — Now you’ve gone from one church to 16 churches. And now look at the collective attendance of those 16 churches. That’s what you call healthy growth. That’s what you call multiplication when you keep reproducing it over and over.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s so good. And there’s actually been progress against this. This is one of the things that I’ve loved as a person just sitting on the outside looking in as you and the team, you know, Dave and the broader Exponential community have really been hammering away at this. You know, we’re not at 16% yet, but we’re seeing progress, which is which is amazing.Todd Wilson — Right. It’s in the studies that we did, and it’s been repeated a couple of times, the needle has moved to at least 7%. That may not sound like a lot, but if you go take the number of churches we’re talking about…Rich Birch — Yes.Todd Wilson — …and that needle moving from less than 5% to 7%. And we’re not taking credit for all that at Exponential. Rich Birch — Right. Todd Wilson — We’re getting to ride a wave that really started around 2000. Prior to 2000, denominations planted churches, not really churches or networks. We saw the birth of networks around 2000 in the U.S. It’s hard for people to realize, but like in the church planting world, groups like City to City and GlocalNet and Acts 29 and ARC and Church Multiplication Network and Stadia and New Thing Network, none of them existed.Rich Birch — Right. Right.Todd Wilson — Literally in a five-year time period, we saw the birth of all these church planting networks, and that happened to coincide with that we saw that need to start Exponential to serve those networks.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — So We we were a little bit the right group at the right place, advocating for the right thing.Todd Wilson — And I do think that generally the the wonderful thing is that as that needle is starting to move and the visibility is getting more and more, the next generation wants it. Rich Birch — Yes. Yeah, I would agree.Todd Wilson — They want the scorecard of that. So I feel very optimistic that we’re still a ways away from 16%, but the needle is moving in the right direction.Rich Birch — Yeah, I would echo that too. I think there is, um you know, one of the couple years ago, I had one of those ages in my life flip over with zero on the end that you kind of notice and you reflect back on life a little bit. And I would say one of the things I’ve noticed over, you know, almost 30 years of ministry is this issue is has become more normative. Like it’s it’s a part of the conversation. It’s not that everyone’s doing it, but it’s in the dialogue, which I think is is wonderful.Rich Birch — Well, I, so you know, there’s, you interact with a lot of church leaders across the country. You interact with a lot of people, you have a pulse on a lot of, you know, what’s going on. And there’s a growing sense, you have flagged that there’s a growing sense among leaders that there’s just something wrong. It’s like, you know, there’s like a stink in the bottom of our, our, garbage that’s like, oh it’s a little bit stinky. It’s not like overwhelming, but we can’t put our finger on exactly what that is. Rich Birch — They can’t necessarily name it, but we feel it. We kind of see that there’s maybe something in the way we’re doing what we’re doing that isn’t working. What are you hearing as you sit across the table from church leaders in across the country, you know, around all of these things that we’re talking about?Todd Wilson — Let me describe it a couple of different ways. I think the the word I would put on it is an angst. I think if you look at the definition of an angst, there’s a there’s a growing and an underlying angst. um I’m going to say, if I’m descriptive of the angst, that might not be the way people would exactly say it but it’s how I translate what I’m hearing.Todd Wilson — We are working a lot harder to reach less people and we don’t like the cultural Christian product we’re getting. We’re working a lot harder. We’re spending more money to reach fewer people. And we’re just having this angst that the product we’re producing is a little bit too much consumer cultural Christian as we’re working harder and spending more money. And that leaves somebody full time, know, if I mean, if you’re a full time vocational pastor, there’s an angst that sits in the middle of that dynamic going on. Todd Wilson — My mentor and friend, Robert Lewis, who led Fellowship Bible Church in Little Rock for years, Robert’s handed off the leadership back in 2005. Robert describes it this way. He did the foreword on my recent book, and when he read and reviewed the book, he said, Todd, oh my goodness, this is first and foremost a walk down history lane. It’s like going back and looking at history. Todd Wilson — But he said, here’s the thing. I had this angst in 2005. Everything was up and to the right. We were growing. We were doing new campuses. We had started a church planting. Like we’re doing all of the stuff. People are turning to us. They’re looking at what we’re doing. We had started a leadership conference. And I just had this angst that something wasn’t right.Todd Wilson — And he said, I couldn’t name it. He said, I needed a therapist. But where does a megachurch pastor who’s having nothing but success with up and to the right, who’s feeling angst about the system, where do you go for therapy in that? He’s like, I didn’t know whether to feel like I was being ungrateful or what.Todd Wilson — And his words were, as you’ve traced the 75 years of the church growth movement and its evolution into a consumer-driven operating system, you have named my angst. I wish I would have had this book in 2005 to name my angst because half the battle is getting our hands around understanding why we’re feeling the way we do.Rich Birch — Yeah, I was talking to denominational leader within the last year to kind of add a bit more flavor even to that angst, who was saying, and this is a fantastic denomination, you know, Jesus loving, you know, fantastic group of people um and have, you know, very similar what you’re saying, like lots of good things going on.Rich Birch — And this was one of those like, After dinner conversations, you know, long ah a long ways away from a bunch of leaders, we were just chatting on the sideline. And he said, you know, the interesting thing, when you look at our tribe, his movement, he rattled off all their stats. We have a certain number of churches. We have a certain number of pastors. We have a certain number of, you know, baptisms every year. It rattles all that off.Rich Birch — And he said, you know, if you were to look at where we were 20 years ago, the number of churches is the same, the number of, and rattled off all these stats that are the same. Like we’re baptizing the same number of people, the attendance is the same, the the like all these things. He said, the only thing that’s gone up in the last 20 years is we’ve doubled our staff head count. There’s twice as many staff today as there was. And when I read, heard about your book and you talk about this angst, I was like, ooh, that’s exactly what he was describing. He’s like, wait a second. what’s happening here. And him as a denominational leader, he had the same read, hey, there’s something wrong with the way we set this thing up. Rich Birch — So your book, let’s actually dive into a little bit. It starts really at 70 year arc from Donald McGavron from 1955, all the way to today. And so for a leader who’s never really stepped back and thought about the history of like, what, how did we get here? It’s the name of your book. Why does knowing what got us to where we are today, this kind of consumer operating system that you describe, why does, how does understanding that help us as we think about the future?Todd Wilson — It’s a really good question. And I’m not sure, honestly, that I when I, when I set out to write this book, that, that that was even driving me to begin with, but very quickly that became the, I realized that’s why I need to write this book.Todd Wilson — So let, let me explain. And I need to give you a little bit of background to explain, because it’s an important question.Rich Birch — Yep, yep, for sure.Todd Wilson — So when I think about the moment that, that I realized we had a problem. Like that that, okay, we’re on this trajectory, things are moving the right direction to the 16%, and I’m back in the leadership of Exponential now. And I’m realizing, oh my goodness, we really do have a problem. And here’s here was what that looked like. Todd Wilson — I believed we had started learning communities and we had very vibrant learning communities And our learning communities got started because we felt like we need to shift the paradigm of people’s measure of success in the scorecard of church. It was very much about we need to shift paradigm. Alan Hirsch was involved with this on how do we shift from just growing large things to growing decentralized things that saturate. And it was very much about scorecard.Todd Wilson — And if you think about it, we’re wanting to move the needle from 5% to 16%. That’s a scorecard thing. So our initiating event was scorecard. But as we got into these learning communities, which in my opinion were the best things we were doing at Exponential. I mean, they were six to eight month learning journeys and we would rock people’s paradigm.Todd Wilson — We really would. People would go through it and be like, Oh my goodness, I got to have a different view of success in the church.Rich Birch — Right. yeahTodd Wilson — And guess what? They’d go home and Sunday’s coming. Rich Birch — Right. Todd Wilson — There’s, services to run, there’s people to pastor, there’s things to do. And the aha moment for me came, Rich, when I realized the the whole definition of insanity, that if you just keep doing the same thing over and over and hope for a different outcome, but that’s insanity. And here I am trying to lead a national organization to see a change in scorecard to move the needle to 16%.Todd Wilson — And I remember the day that I realized we’re not going to get there with the operating system we have in place in church right now. This operating system is not capable of getting us to the 16% number.Todd Wilson — That was a personal crisis. I’m leading an organization that’s up and to the right that the needle is moving. But as a futurist, I’m realizing we’re not going to get where we need to be with the operating system in the church. So the the operating system part was what drove me to start writing this book. I’ll let you ask a question there, and then we’ll circle back to the how does it relate to understanding how we got here, though.Rich Birch — Yeah, so ah just to underline what you’re saying there, um you know in in other conversations, I’ve heard leaders say, you know it’s like, um you know what you know what you reach people with is what you end up keeping them with. And so if what I hear you saying, just putting, I think, other language around it, but correct me, is kind of a consumer-oriented or a consumer cultural operating system that we’ve we’ve used as a church… Todd Wilson — Right.Rich Birch — …you know, obviously by definition, if you ah use a um consumption-based model, that doesn’t, leave you it’s very difficult to turn around and say, okay, now become a multiplier. You know, we got you here as a consumer. Okay, now how do we make you a multiplier? Is that the core pain?Todd Wilson — It is. And Rich, you’re painting the picture of why looking back to understand how we got here is important. If it’s true, that are ah If it’s true, and I want to suggest people ought to go look at it for themselves, that the underlying operating system that has evolved over the last 75 years, it’s not where it started with Donald McGavern in 1955. And there was never bad intentions by any of the good people through the 70 years.Rich Birch — Yeah, right.Todd Wilson — We have evolved from what was originally one thing. into a consumer model that is way more focused on success is growing big, success is making converts, not necessarily disciples. And we we can diagnose that if there’s a problem today, and I suggest there is a problem today, then how we got here and understanding how over 70 years, what was intended to be one thing, gradually (like the frog getting boiled in cold water) turned into something else.Todd Wilson — We’ve got to go through the the, if we really want to change the operating system, and I’ve seen how hard it is, guys can have the paradigm shift. We need to change. Then they go back home into the operating system that they’re operating in. And it is really, really hard to just throw off one operating system and embrace another oneTodd Wilson — And I wouldn’t even encourage people to do that. Don’t go home and just change your operating system overnight. But if you do want to make thoughtful, progressive change, the best way to do it is to start by going back and learn the lesson of how did we get where we are?Rich Birch — Yeah.Todd Wilson — How did things get off track to where to where we are?Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good.Todd Wilson — And that’s what ended you know, I started out the book really to go after understanding the operating system itself. And very quickly came to the conclusion, oh, we I’m not sure how we’re going to move to a new operating system if people don’t go through the hard work of looking back and understanding how well-intentioned people over time have delivered for us what we have today in a flawed system.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good. You know, I know, again, from my own personal experience, not to bring this back to me, but to my own personal experience, again, it’s been interesting to see similar patterns. You know, every couple years, there’s like some new idea that comes up in the church. And oftentimes I’m like, yeah, this is just like of rehash of a thing I saw 10 years ago or 15 years ago or 20 years ago.Rich Birch — It’s like, oh, this is is brand new. It’s like, ah, it’s echoes of things we’ve seen in the past. So why don’t we just kind of give people a flyover or a walkover of the kind of eras that you kind of define as you went through the book, just to give people a high level. Rich Birch — Ultimately friends, you know, I’m encouraging you to to do two things out of today. One is to pick up, I think this could be a great book for you and your team to go through. You and your leadership team, buy copies of this, read it. I think it could be an interesting book for you or, and go and listen to Todd’s interview with Carey as well. Carey just takes longer in his podcast and has more time. So there’s going to be, there’s lots packed into that as well. Rich Birch — But why don’t you kind of give us a flyover of the eras? And then maybe when you think about each one of those, something that was like, really positive that came from that area something like hey there’s something good there or maybe there’s something there that we’ve got to be cautious about as we think about the future.Todd Wilson — Yeah. And just to be clear, Rich, you know this, ah I’m a local church guy. My calling is a local church. I’m still on staff at a local church. I love the local church. So this part of the, difficulty for me in spending two years and over a hundred hours of interviews and putting this timeline of history together is I love the church.Todd Wilson — And I I, don’t know that I’d be sitting here talking to you if it weren’t for several of these eras I’m getting ready to name to you. So you’ve got really, I think a common thread through across these areas as we jump into them is typically apostolic, evangelistically driven leaders who really want to reach people. Hell is real. Lost people are going there. We got to reach them. And I think that’s the driving factor across all these eras is well-intentioned people…Todd Wilson — And if I can start with the end point, I think we’ve sort of co-opted the more holistic disciple-making growth engine that’s capable of generational disciple-making with strategies for institutional programmatic growth that are not capable of reproduction. They’re very good at growing large things and reaching lots of people, but not necessarily making, you know, through relational disciple making, disciples who make disciples who plant churches that plant churches.Todd Wilson — So here’s how I would do the flyover. When I got started writing this history, I thought I was doing one chapter of this history in another book. Rich Birch — I love it.Todd Wilson — And one chapter turned into two chapters and three chapters. And eventually my editor said, Todd, you just need to do a full book.Rich Birch — Well, that’s a book.Todd Wilson — And it ends up turning into the longest book I’ve written because of the 75 year history. And ah Rich, seriously, don’t, people don’t need to feel bad if they don’t know all the history. I, I’m like a where’s Waldo through a lot of this history. I’ve had a seat at the table for a lot of the stuff through these eras.Todd Wilson — Until writing this book, I did not know how all the dots connected across these eras. And then it became there were so many, oh, oh, oh. So here’s here’s the shot I’ll give to you. Ididn’t really I knew I had heard of Donald McGavern. I knew he was considered the father of the modern church growth movement. I’ve never, prior to writing this book, read about him, gone off and studied him. Gary McIntosh is his by is Donald McGavern’s biographer. So I spent a lot of time with Gary. He pointed me in the right directions.Todd Wilson — And here’s what I learned. Donald McGavern, born in the late 1800s, international missionary in India. um His father and mother were missionaries in India. He came from the mission field and his context was the international mission field. Todd Wilson — Now, get this as the starting point in 1955. He’s an international missionary. He has planted 15 churches himself in his career, none of which ever grew to more than 100 people. So you got to let that sink in. The father of the modern church growth movement planted 15 churches, none of which grew to more than 100. And yet he’s the father of what we consider now the modern church growth movement.Rich Birch — Right. Interesting.Todd Wilson — So the kind the context was, he became fascinated after reading a research report on why some churches in provinces in India were growing and others weren’t. Sometimes churches in the same village that were growing and just down the street, others weren’t.Todd Wilson — So he kind of took a scientific approach, the study of church growth. Like let’s study this like it’s a science, like what’s causing some churches to grow. And he he had very clear conclusions out of that, but you know, a handful of conclusions of what’s causing that.Todd Wilson — And so ultimately, when he came off the mission field by 1960, 61, he started the Church Growth Institute, not for U.S. pastors, but for international missionaries who were on furlough to come home and learn about church growth principles that they could take back to the international mission field. He had no interest in U.S. pastors. Todd Wilson — So for multiple years in the 60s, he was doing that. And when Fuller wanted to start their International School of World Missions, one of their best faculty member ratings was Donald McGavern. So they invited him to come become the founding dean of the the Fuller School of World Missions.Todd Wilson — But he only agreed to do it if he could bring the Church Growth Institute with him. So by 1970, you’ve got that up and running. He’s built his team. He invited a guy called C. Peter Wagner off the mission field to come be on his faculty staff. And in 1970, 71, Peter Wagner convinced Donald McGavern that they ought to run one class for U.S. pastors on church growth.Todd Wilson — And the rest is history. That one class, it just turned into, Imean, people were very interested in it. Denominations became interested. And literally within a couple of years, you’ve got this up and to the right people latching on to church growth science.Todd Wilson — And that starts the process, you know. Even from the beginning, you start to see a little bit of co-opting away from McGavern’s things. Not fast, but a little bit. Todd Wilson — So right on the heels of that, in the 70s then, you’ve got this young kid, ah Bill Hybels… Rich Birch — Right. Todd Wilson — …who’s running you know going to go into business and he’s running a street ministry with youth. He’s being mentored by Robert Shuler.Rich Birch — Yes.Todd Wilson — And Shuler’s got the possibility thinking, think outside the box, very apostolic. Turns out Shuler not only mentors Hybels, but there’s some mentoring of Rick Warren. And so you’ve got the birth of the seeker-sensitive era then.Todd Wilson — You know, if the first era was the McGavern-Roots era, now we’ve got the seeker-sensitive era. And, you know, that can be a positive or a negative stigma. For me, in 1976, I’m in middle school going into high school, not a Christian, live down the street from this movie theater called the Willow Creek Movie Theater. Rich Birch — Right. Right.Todd Wilson — And my mom drags us kicking and screaming into the Willow Creek Movie Theater. We were the avatar family for the Seeker Sensitive family movement.Rich Birch — Right. Movement.Todd Wilson — From Seeker Sensitive, you get out of that the what Peter Drucker and Bob Buford would call the large church phenomena and the birth of Leadership Network then with the large church phenomena, which became the megachurch phenomena.Todd Wilson — You’ve got Rick Warren and his masterful work with the purpose-driven church. Rick’s able to put handles on this church growth part, but Rick was a disciple of Donald McGavern, so he’s got the McGavern roots. Todd Wilson — You’ve got Hybels with the Shuler roots. And in that 80 into the 90s with the birth of the Global Leadership Summit and the other, you’ve you’ve got this very influential large church phenomena, purpose-driven, being shaped by, you know, in large part, the combination of Leadership Network, Hybels, Rick Warren… And that brings us up to you know about 2000. Todd Wilson — And just as a flyover, I would then call the era of the externally focused church. You’ve got the rapid fire birth of church planting networks. You’ve got multi-site. People don’t realize prior to 2000, there’s less than 50 multi-site churches.Rich Birch — Yeah.Todd Wilson — Leadership Network engages it in 2000. And from 2000 to 2010 you see an up, I mean, radically up and to the right.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — The externally focused church, same thing. Rick Russo has book right in that time period. The missional guys, right in that time period. So the common theme between these church planning networks, the missional guys, the externally focused guys, the multi-site, is we’re now looking outside of ourselves.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — But in large part, we’re still looking outside of ourselves as growth strategies for our things. If you really go look under the hood of a lot of those.Todd Wilson — And then I would say coming out of the externally or outwardly focused era, 2015 to 2025, I just have no other name than the disruption era. As I was doing the research on this book, um I had to stop at like 12 major disruptions that happened in that time period with COVID right in the middle. Rich Birch — Right. Todd Wilson — And so that’s the…Rich Birch — Political upheaval. There’s a bunch in there in that same, you know, yeah, that there’s been a schism.Todd Wilson — You’ve got deconstruction of faith.Rich Birch — Yep.Todd Wilson — You’ve got cynicism. You’ve got platformed individualism with the birth of social media. Now anybody can be their own, you know, playlist influencer. There’s just so many disruptive factors in there.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — Now you look at all those disruptive factors with the evolution of what’s happening in the church and the church operating system. And it leaves us on a very shaky foundation at that point that, you know It kind of brings us up to where we are now, and you can either be a pessimist at that or an optimist. And I choose the optimist path that we’re poised for a new day and a new operating system is my prayer.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s amazing. And friends, as you can see, you just got a real thin slice of, you know, just all the various phases that you do such a great job unpacking for us to help us really understand how we we got here. It was It was wild, it’s wild thinking about a lot of that because I remember, you know, various phases of those over the last particularly 25 years, you know, seeing that up close and seeing, you know, kind of the impact that has had and then wondering about the future and where we go from here. Rich Birch — So thinking about the future and, you know, obviously you’ve, um you know, you’ve you’re making a clear clarion call around, hey, we’ve got to think differently than the consumer driven operating system. We’ve got to we’ve got to come up with something different. After all of that, um and we’ve kind of covered this already, but I’d love to make sure we kind of hone on this, have this resonate with people that are listening in. Why is it so difficult for that system, for the consumer-driven operating system to to really ultimately produce healthy reproduction and multiplication and in churches? What’s structurally ah broken about it? And what what would be some first steps we should be thinking about change to the future as we think about, okay, where we go from here? Todd Wilson — Yeah.Rich Birch — How do we, you know, build on the positive stuff, but also look for something different as we look to the future? Todd Wilson — Yeah. I think we don’t have to make it complex, Rich, if we just keep trying to come back to simplicity for a minute. Like the system that has evolved has actually become pretty complex when you think about it. I would say if we could just focus on, I’m not even going to say changing overnight, but if if I’m a lead pastor, if I’m on staff at a church, I’m really focused on disciple-making as the core mission and growth engine of the church. Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — Like what is it, most churches are going to say our mission is disciple making or it’s going to be part of it. They’re going to say we have a culture of disciple making, but it is not what the data shows. Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — You know, again, 95% of churches do not have a culture of disciple-making. They have a culture of program activity. Rich Birch — Right. Todd Wilson — And so I’m not an advocate of changing everything overnight, but if you want to shift from a culture of program activity to a true culture of disciple-making‚ it has to start with the lead minister having a simple, reproducible, in-practice disciple-making approach that is being modeled for the… I don’t mean discipling the staff. I mean there’s people the lead pastor are personally discipling, modeling that simple, reproducible process. Todd Wilson — Where we’re starting to see traction and where I think the breakthroughs are going to come in getting us to the new operating system of the future, it is going to start, and it’s it’s happening right now, with pastors who say, you know, if I’m really honest, I’ve been preaching the last 52 weeks. I’ve been leading meetings. I’ve been doing, I’ve been doing, I’ve done, but I’m not really personally making disciples. Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — And I think it’s going to start with the lead pastor, the elders, senior people saying, If we could only have one metric of success in the next 12 months, it’s not growth, it’s not the activities we do, it’s not the new building. If we only have one measure of success, it’s how many disciples have I personally, relationally been involved in? me Not how many have I preached to, not how many outreach events have we done where we’ve got, but what have I personally done on the disciple-making front?Todd Wilson — And I don’t want to make it more complicated than that. That’s what we’re missing right now.Rich Birch — That’s good. No, that’s really good. Yeah, that’s good. I love the practical takeaway of, um yeah, it’s like, who are the three people in your life that you’re actually discipling? Let’s start there. Rich Birch — So this is kind of a sidebar to it.Todd Wilson — Can I just look real quick?Rich Birch — Yes. Yep. Push back. Yep.Todd Wilson — So David Putman, who’s part of what we do at Multipliers, David’s longtime kingdom guy.Rich Birch — Yep.Todd Wilson — You should have him on as an interview here. David is completely focused on what he calls the 5-3-2 right now. Five simple reproducible principles, three rhythms, and and two relationships. So it’s a triad of three people that just keeps reproducing.Todd Wilson — Anybody can do it. A ninth grader can do it. A lead pastor can do it. I’m watching this model take different groups by storm right now. And whether you embrace the 5-3-2 or some other model like it, the key is going to be having a simple, reproducible process that works for the lead pastor and anyone else in the church. Same model.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good. Yeah we had David on back in 2020 and I’m like we got to get him back on uh the podcast. Rich Birch — So sidebar issue, so this is not something we’d you know kicked around ahead of time but it’s kind of adjacent to this. So I am not a I'm not a teaching pastor. Similar to you. I’m not, i never saw myself as a lead pastor. I’ve always been in the like, Hey, my job’s to be in the second chair, cheering for other lead pastors. I’ve worked for um really over my career as an XP three incredible communicator lead pastors who it would appear like, and it is, they, all three of them, God gifted them with this ability to speak and gather crowds. Like that was like core. And, and I, I’ve spent a lot of time like listening to them and watching them. And part of it just appears to be like, it’s definitely a gifting that’s going on there.Rich Birch — And I, over time, ah questions like the following would come up that I would I'd struggle with, where it’s like, it would appear like this person can gather a lot of people, and we can build more chairs in front of that person and people will hear that person and they’ll they’ll take steps towards Jesus. Rich Birch — And I understand that that’s not, or that’s not a full picture of discipleship. That’s one piece of the discipleship puzzle, but it’s not… And the the kind of organizational pressure is, okay, let’s keep figuring out how to build more seats in front of this person and and their gift. How do we get them to leverage their gift well? Rich Birch — And to be honest, I’ve been in conversations where I’ve been the voice of like, I want to line 100,000 people up in front of this person to hear this person speak because I think the way they talk about Jesus is different than what I’ve heard other people say and it it’ll make a difference. Rich Birch — That is, I think, at the center of this tension that there’s some there seems to be something about the gift of teaching that it’s not, I don’t know whether it’s not evenly distributed, or there’s like a brokenness in humanity and we only want to listen to certain kinds of people. I don’t know whether it’s one of those two things. So all I’ve done is describe a problem and I’m going to say, comment on it, Todd.Todd Wilson — Yeah. I think you’re right on the mark. I think I want to affirm that, you know, I mean, everybody has their definitions. I believe the preaching role is, and and the teaching and reaching is a piece of the discipleship equation.Rich Birch — Yep.Todd Wilson — I think if I’m defining the problem statement, We have made it the biggest piece… Rich Birch — Sure. Todd Wilson — …instead of a piece or a playing a role in it. So I think the issue is that how big we’ve made it. Like you, I was an executive pastor for years. And when I look back on that time, my role was not about holistic relational disciple making that could be the growth engine of the church. and it It was how do we get as many people in seats in the auditorium on Sunday? We need great marketing. We need great outreach.Todd Wilson — And again, I think all of those play a role in the disciple-making process ultimately. But let’s just be honest, that’s not disciple-making itself. It plays a role in the disciple-making process.Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — So the elephant in the room here is, how do we scale disciple-making? If I if I could be If I could be the czar of this, I’m not, but if I could be, I want the genius at the end. I want the unique gifts that are represented across the whole mosaic and the church, starting with that dynamic creature that can attract the crowd. I want it. Todd Wilson — But I also want those senior leaders of the organization I really want to be focused on what is our growth engine and what is our holistic disciple-making process. Rich Birch — Right.Todd Wilson — And the number one thing I want from those senior leaders is not their unique gift. I want their modeling, their personal modeling of the simple, reproducible, disciple-making growth engine that anybody in the church can do. Rich Birch — That’s good.Todd Wilson — I mean, that that preaching gift you’re talking about, that that one lead pastor can do, how many other people in the church can do that?Rich Birch — Right. Not many. Yep.Todd Wilson — So there’s their paradigm. So we need them doing it.Rich Birch — Yes.Todd Wilson — But I would argue what we need them doing even more than that inspiration is modeling the simple reproducible disciple making thing that people know that’s how we’re going to win here.Rich Birch — Yeah. Well, and I’ve that lines up, I’ve said it at probably, well, not a thousand times, but hundreds of times with lead pastors over the years that in the context of this conversation, I would rather them weave in the discussion about their discipleship relationships as like just a normative part of conversation rather than the, we’re doing six weeks on discipleship and how to become disciple making. I’m like, if you just pepper that stuff in week in, week out, it just is a normative part of the conversation that changes culture. Rich Birch — The kind of like, we’re going to make it a program. We’re going to brand it. We’ve got a great name on it. And my experience has been, it’s it’s a little bit like nailing jello to the wall. There’s there’s actually some of that containing of what we’re talking about actually kills the exact thing that we’re trying to do. And so, man, I think there’s a real tension there. And how do we help those people? Rich Birch — Because it’s not like we want them to do a worse job. It’s not like, hey, if you could stop talking in a way that attracts a crowd, that’s not the answer. But we’ve got to, like you say, how do we move them into those personal relationships? That’s fantastic.Rich Birch — Well, this has been a great conversation…Todd Wilson — My question would be, Rich, what what would happen…Rich Birch — Yep.Todd Wilson — …if an average lead pastor went on a one-year journey to to of disciple-making themselves? Call it a triad, call it four, five. They’re always, over the next year, going to be in a disciple-making small micro group… Rich Birch — Yep. Todd Wilson — …and all of their preaching is going to be informed.Rich Birch — Yep.Todd Wilson — That’s their laboratory of learning.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s their paradigm. Yeah, that’s good.Todd Wilson — That’s their paradigm. And now they’re bringing it to life, not just as periodic examples, but, you know, my whole frame of reference of my library is what comes out of that experience. Rich Birch — Yeah.Todd Wilson — And our problem right now is that’s just lack. It isn’t that it’s inserted a little bit. It’s just lacking.Rich Birch — Right. Yeah, that’s good. Yeah, this has been great. what ah What a great conversation. And as you can tell, friends, there’s a lot we could talk about there. And a lot you know just there’s a rich conversation that could be had around this. Rich Birch — Let’s let’s pivot and kind of talk a little bit about the book specifically. i want to make sure people pick up copies of this. Again, the name of it is How Did We Get Here? Looking Back to Look Forward. People can get this on Amazon. Are there other places that you would send people if they want to pick up copies of this?Todd Wilson — Yeah. So if they go to church-growth.org, church-growth.org, that’s the book’s homepage. You can actually get the free PDF there. You can get the free audio version there. There’s a full wiki there that people can contribute to. What you kind of mentioned it in passing, but I’ll highlight, it is impossible to read this book and not see yourself in it. Rich Birch — Yes. Yeah.Todd Wilson — Anyone who’s been a Christian for a while, they, the editor of the book said the power of this is going to be, she said, I can tell you the page in the book that I entered the story. Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s great. Todd Wilson — So you’ve got the free PDF, the free audio, the wiki, and then for people that just want the paper versions, you can get it on Amazon.Rich Birch — That’s great. And we’ll link to that friends so that you can, you know, find that quickly in the show notes and, and friends, I would encourage you again, to me, I think this could be a great resource to do with your leadership team, as I mentioned earlier. It would be a great kind of conversation starter and really context setter for us to think through these issues as we think about the future. Rich Birch — So kind of as we, as we come to close up today’s conversation, any final words as we wrap up today?Todd Wilson — Rich, I just appreciate the work you’re doing. I want to be an encouragement to pastors. Don’t let this book be, it’s not a deconstruction book. It’s not, oh my goodness, the church has fallen apart.Rich Birch — No, yeah.Todd Wilson — We need to keep plugging away doing what we’re doing, but we also have to have an eye on the future that this operating system that has evolved, everything has a beginning and an end. And this operating system, I believe, is in its final days. I think we’re we’re seeing you know less and less effectiveness with it. And I think we just need to be in a posture of giving permission to the next generations to do some trial and error and experimentation and not be locked into the paradigm of the of the past inheriting previous things.Rich Birch — No, fantastic, Todd. I appreciate you being here. And I would echo that, you know, you’re you’re the kind of leader that’s in our corner trying to help us get better. And so I appreciate the voice that you’ve had for for decades. And so I really appreciate that. Rich Birch — If people want to track with you, get connected, follow along with Multipliers where do we want to send them online?Todd Wilson — Multipliers.org can get me to all the different ways from email to phone to social media. So multipliers.org.Rich Birch — That’s great. Thanks so much, Todd. Appreciate you being here, sir.Todd Wilson — Thank you, Rich. Appreciate it.

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Send us Fan MailPARTE 1Muchas veces como lideres nuestro procedimiento de tomar decisiones no es lo mas efectivo. No hay formalidad ni peso y en muchos casos, uno no toma acción después de tomar una decisión. En estos dos episodios, el Dr. Ledezma nos comparte una metodología efectiva de tomar decisiones correctas.INSTAGRAM:@liderazgo_enfocado@drabelledezmaSerie: La Realidad del Liderazgo MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVORegresamos con nuestras conferencias mensuales de liderazgo el 27 de julio, 2026 con la serie titulada: Desarrollando líderes altamente efectivos.Conferencias son gratuitas, marca su calendario te esperamos ver en persona o en linea.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

We talk about the Bible verses that changed Rick Warren's mind about women in church leadership positions as well as the feud between him and the Souther Baptist Convention.  What happens when you let your wife produce the podcast and you threaten to fire her during the show? Absolute chaos!  In this episode, we're joined by special guest producer Lyndsey to break down everything from the marital magic of "chore play" and listener voicemails, to Rick Warren and the Southern Baptist Conventions split over women in church leadership, and why rigid church cultures struggle with nuance.  Plus, we take a detour through ancient text interpretations, first-century euphemisms, and what it really feels like to step into a brand new church community after a decade of leading the old one. 00:00 - Meet the Producer: Lyndsey Joins the Show 03:00 - Chore Play: The Secret to Romance? 10:15 - Questions with Quaid & Catching Up with Scott 17:30 - The SBC vs. Saddleback: Rick Warren and Women in Leadership 37:00 - First Vagilonians and Linguistic Rabbit Holes 51:00 - The Brittleness of Deconstruction and Church Transitions 1:05:00 - Spotting Cult Tactics and Managing Nuance SUBSCRIBE & SHARE us this week!Contact Us: brosbiblesbeer@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Leave Us A VoicemailYouTubeSimpleCastSpotifyApple PodcastsXInstaWe Should Know Better is: Zack Krater & Andy McCraw Find us wherever fine podcasts are distributed. Oh, and share us with a friend this week! Grace. Peace. Cheers! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Send us Fan MailPARTE 2Hay aquellos que profesan ser parte del equipo pero no hacen nada. El nivel de compromiso es muy baja o simplemente no existe comprobantes de un compromiso. Los lideres al seleccionar miembros del equipo, reciben mas a los que pretenden ser parte en lugar de la gente con un compromiso firme.INSTAGRAM:@liderazgo_enfocado@drabelledezmaSerie: La Realidad - Sección Tres - Resolviendo los conflictos Hay lideres que tratan y aceptan que hay conflictos, pero no saben como resolver los conflictos de una manera saludable. MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVORegresamos con nuestras conferencias mensuales de liderazgo el 27 de julio, 2026 con la serie titulada: Desarrollando líderes altamente efectivos.Conferencias son gratuitas, marca su calendario te esperamos ver en persona o en linea.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Canadian wildfire smoke is still blanketing the Midwest, and Brian From opens with the theological thread underneath the inconvenience: control and comfort are the two great idols of American culture, and weather has a way of stripping both bare at once. On a happier note, his daughter is home from five weeks of intensive Arabic study in Washington DC, all three kids are under one roof for the next month, and Brian takes a moment to speak directly to parents of young children: the days are long, but the years go fast — don't take it for granted. Relevant Magazine ranks the top ten fictional pastors on television, and the winner is Reverend Timothy Lovejoy from The Simpsons — a punchline who is also, the piece argues, the most honest portrait of ministry burnout television has ever managed. A nostalgic look back at Rick Warren's Purpose Driven Life campaign of 2002, when twelve thousand American churches read the same book and preached the same sermons simultaneously — and what it says about our capacity for unity then and now. And then the unexpected closer: a viral clip of Shaquille O'Neal reflecting on his divorce from inside a 76,000 square foot house where no one else was home. No kids in the gym, no one in the rooms. Brian holds it up as a modern reading of Ecclesiastes — the man who had everything, admits he was greedy, and was left with nothing that mattered. What are you building your life around? Only one thing fills the house.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Send us Fan MailHay aquellos que profesan ser parte del equipo pero no hacen nada. El nivel de compromiso es muy baja o simplemente no existe comprobantes de un compromiso. Los lideres al seleccionar miembros del equipo, reciben mas a los que pretenden ser parte en lugar de la gente con un compromiso firme.INSTAGRAM:@liderazgo_enfocado@drabelledezmaSerie: La Realidad - Sección Tres - Resolviendo los conflictos Hay lideres que tratan y aceptan que hay conflictos, pero no saben como resolver los conflictos de una manera saludable. MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVORegresamos con nuestras conferencias mensuales de liderazgo el 1 de junio, 2026 con la serie titulada: Desarrollando líderes altamente efectivos.Conferencias son gratuitas, marca su calendario te esperamos ver en persona o en linea.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Rick Warren says the number one sin Christians fight every single day is not addiction, and it is not pride. It is anxiety. And once I understood what that actually meant, it changed everything about how I handle a season of waiting.This episode is not about how to feel less anxious. It is about understanding why anxiety is a sin, specifically, how it hijacks the waiting season God designed for your growth, and three concrete moves that bring you back to the present moment where God is actually working.I share the Bayard Park story in this one. We lost six figures on a development project, and for a long season, I kept asking God why. What I did not see at the time was that anxiety was the thing making that season heavier than God ever intended it to be.What we cover:What anxiety actually is. Most people treat it like a personality trait. The Bible calls it disobedience. That reframe changes everything about how you handle a hard season.How anxiety hijacks a season of financial waiting. It gives you specific targets: checking the same balance at midnight, running numbers that have not changed, replaying decisions you cannot undo, and planning for a worst-case scenario that has not happened. All of this is a location problem, not an information problem.How to come back to the present. Three moves: name the time zone you are in, find one specific thing God is doing right now, and replace the question. Anxiety asks what if. The present asks what now. That one shift changes everything.Scriptures referenced:Philippians 4:6, Proverbs 12:25, Matthew 6:34If this episode landed for you, the next one covers five specific signs that God is calling you out of your financial situation right now. Not someday. Right now. Subscribe so you do not miss it.

Send us Fan MailHoy introducimos al Pastor Joel Contreras a nuestra audiencia de Liderazgo Enfocado. Conocemos su ministerio desde compositor, productor, director de alabanza y pastor de la iglesia Centro Familiar Cristiano en Phoenix.Siguenos:INSTAGRAM:@liderazgo_enfocado@drabelledezma@miraclemixer@cfcphoenixMAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVO Si estas en el área de San Diego, CA le hacemos una invitación a nuestras capacitaciones mensuales de liderazgo en vivo. Nuestro próximo evento es el 27 de julio, 2026 en Centro Familiar Cristiano, 5901 Rancho Hills Drive. Si no estas en el área, nos puedes ver en línea y en vivo desde nuestra página oficial.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Welcome back to another episode of the unSeminary podcast. Today we're joined by Eric Holmstrom, Lead Pastor of Purpose Church in Pomona, California. Founded more than 150 years ago, Purpose Church has a rich legacy of ministry and is currently experiencing significant growth following a healthy leadership transition. In this conversation, Eric shares lessons from succeeding a beloved long-tenured pastor, building on an existing culture, and leading a historic church into a new season of impact. Are you preparing for a succession transition—or wondering how to lead after a highly respected predecessor? Eric offers practical wisdom on navigating change with humility, honoring the past, and creating momentum for the future. Following a beloved predecessor. // Succeeding a pastor who led for 31 years can feel intimidating, and Eric is refreshingly honest about the insecurities he faced. During the transition process, he wrestled with feelings of inadequacy and wondered whether he was the right person for the role. Yet he found confidence not in his abilities, but in God's calling. A defining moment came on the morning of the congregational vote when he reflected on Isaiah 41:13: “I am the Lord your God who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, do not fear; I will help you.” That promise became an anchor throughout the transition. The gift of a healthy handoff. // Eric credits much of the success of the transition to the generosity and wisdom of former lead pastor Glenn Gunderson. During the public handoff, Glenn introduced Eric to the congregation as “your new lead pastor” and then added, “and my new lead pastor.” That simple statement communicated trust, unity, and support. Glenn also intentionally stepped back for several months to allow Eric to build relationships with the congregation before gradually returning to participate in ministry. The result was a transition marked by health rather than division. Focus on what only you can do. // One of Eric's biggest adjustments was determining how to spend his time as lead pastor. He quickly realized he could be involved in almost anything, but shouldn't be. Instead, he narrowed his focus to vision, spiritual direction, staff development, and culture. While pastoral care remains important, he sees his primary role through the lens of Ephesians 4: equipping leaders who then shepherd and disciple others throughout the church. You are not the exception—you are the example. // One of the most significant initiatives Eric introduced was an employee spiritual commitment for church staff. He noticed a tendency among ministry leaders to unintentionally exempt themselves from practices they encourage others to embrace. Reading Scripture, serving, giving, participating in groups, and pursuing spiritual growth are not just expectations for church members—they are expectations for staff as well. After months of discussion, clarification, and prayer, the entire staff committed to a shared set of spiritual standards designed to strengthen culture and integrity across the organization. Building an intentional invite culture. // Purpose Church has also seen momentum through strategic “Sunday Funday” invite events. Rather than creating dramatically different experiences, these Sundays closely resemble a normal weekend service while adding elements that make inviting easier. Eric intentionally tells the congregation exactly what will be taught and who the message is designed for, helping members identify specific people to invite. This approach has contributed to increased attendance, more baptisms, and a growing number of people taking first steps toward faith. Shepherd people where they are. // Looking back, one of Eric's biggest lessons is the importance of meeting people where they are emotionally during a transition. Some church members were grieving the departure of a beloved pastor, while others were brand new and excited about the future. Rather than forcing everyone into the same experience, Eric sought to pastor each person according to their unique journey. This posture of empathy helped create trust during a potentially difficult season. To learn more about Purpose Church, visit purposechurch.com or follow their ministry online for resources, messages, and updates. Thank You for Tuning In! There are a lot of podcasts you could be tuning into today, but you chose unSeminary, and I'm grateful for that. If you enjoyed today's show, please share it by using the social media buttons you see at the left hand side of this page. Also, kindly consider taking the 60-seconds it takes to leave an honest review and rating for the podcast on iTunes, they're extremely helpful when it comes to the ranking of the show and you can bet that I read every single one of them personally! Lastly, don't forget to subscribe to the podcast on iTunes, to get automatic updates every time a new episode goes live! Thank You to This Episode’s Sponsor: Risepointe Do you feel like your church’s or school's facility could be preventing growth? Are you frustrated or possibly overwhelmed at the thought of a complicated or costly building project? Are the limitations of your building becoming obstacles in the path of expanding your ministry? Have you ever felt that you could reach more people if only the facility was better suited to the community’s needs? Well, the team over at Risepointe can help! As former ministry staff and church leaders, they understand how to prioritize and help lead you to a place where the building is a ministry multiplier. Your mission should not be held back by your building. Their team of architects, interior designers and project managers have the professional experience to incorporate creative design solutions to help move YOUR mission forward. Check them out at risepointe.com and while you’re there, schedule a FREE call to explore possibilities for your needs, vision and future…Risepointe believes that God still uses spaces…and they're here to help. Episode Transcript Rich Birch — Hey friends, welcome to the unSeminary podcast. So glad you’ve decided to tune in and you’re going to be rewarded for that today. We’re having a conversation that I know there’s a whole bunch of leaders that are on the front end of this decision. And today you’re going to get a chance to kind of peek up over the horizon and see potentially where your church is going to be in a few years. You’re going to want to stick around for this entire conversation. We’ve got Eric Holmstrom with us. He is the lead pastor of Purpose Church, which is in Pomona, California. Rich Birch — It originally started as Spadra, if I’m pronouncing correct, Baptist Church 150 years ago. It’s one of the fastest growing churches in the country. It’s diverse, multi-generational of every age and stage. And Eric has been the lead pastor since 2024. Welcome to the podcast. So glad you’re here.Eric Holmstrom — Well, thank you so much, Rich, for having me. I am a huge fan of you and what you’re doing. I love how you’re supporting and helping church leaders and ministry leaders. So thanks for letting me join you today.Rich Birch — Oh, come on. That’s super kind. Glad you’re here and really looking forward to learning from you today. Why don’t you kind of give us a bit of your story and tell us a little bit about Purpose and kind of set the context for us.Eric Holmstrom — Yeah, well, Rich, that’s really cool too that you knew the name of our original church. It was Spadra Baptist, I think, was back in the day.Rich Birch — Spadra.Eric Holmstrom — And it’s actually, our church is 156 years old. So our church was started three years before the city of Pomona even became a city. And so a group of people came into this area and felt God calling them to plant a church here. And for 156 years, we’ve been in different parts of the city, but always here in Pomona, feeling called by God here. And so I am lead pastor number 19. Rich Birch — Wow.Eric Holmstrom — And so I’m just a blip on the radar here. And unless Jesus returns, Lord willing, there will be lead pastor 21, 20, or 20, 21, 22, 23. And they won’t even remember me. They won’t even know anything about me and God will continue to do a great work through this church. Eric Holmstrom — So I came here, my wife Sarah and I came here. We had one kid at the time, Charlie, and we came here 13 years ago. And you know felt like, this is a great, healthy church. The lead pastor, our our former lead pastor, Glenn Gunderson, just an amazing man of God. Him and his wife, Kimberly, and their family, they led here for 31 years as our lead pastor and just such a legacy leader.Eric Holmstrom — So when we got here, I started as the high school pastor and, I you know, wasn’t sure how long we’d be here. Loved the ministry, loved that ah there is a multi-generational, very diverse congregation here in terms of even diverse socioeconomically.Eric Holmstrom — So I love the opportunity to get to do youth ministry. That’s what I was passionate about and excited about and just wanted to faithfully follow God. I mean, that’s where my story of faith really began was going into my freshman year of high school. That’s when I got saved. That’s when I gave my life to Christ. I was at a camp, summer camp, went there looking for a girl and I found God. And my life was forever changed because of that, because of this camp and the local church that discipled me.Eric Holmstrom — And so got into youth ministry, came here, ah was a high school pastor for 10 years here, did a total of 18 years in youth ministry, and then began to sense that God was calling me and my family to step into this new season. And our lead pastor was encouraging of that. He really saw that in me. Eric Holmstrom — But then in our church polity, in our structure here, there had to be a church vote. And so I interviewed, got grilled by, search committee…Rich Birch — Yes.Eric Holmstrom — …had an amazing, you know experience, a challenging. And at the end of it, uh, you know, we went before the congregation and there was a vote and I got enough votes to become the next lead pastor. Rich Birch — Love it. Eric Holmstrom — And the baton was passed and it was such a healthy transition. Our, our former lead pastor, pastor Glenn, I’ll never forget on that that ah Sunday when he passed the baton to me, he said to our whole church, he said, this is Eric, your new lead pastor, and this is Eric, my new lead pastor.Rich Birch — Oh, wow. What a gift.Eric Holmstrom — And so he just got it. It was a powerful statement and very humbled. And and yeah, and then he him and his family kind of for six months ah gave a little space for me to bond with the congregation.Eric Holmstrom — And then their, you know, they’re back in the rotation now. We see them about once a month and then they’re with their grandkids and doing other things. But ah but he preaches here still. Pastor Glenn preaches here about three or four times a year still. Rich Birch — Love it. Eric Holmstrom — And so it’s been a beautiful, healthy transition.Rich Birch — That’s so cool. I love the fact that you’re, you know, you know, there’s 19 pastors been there over those 150 years. I love that context of you setting yourself in like, hey, ah you’re in one in a line.Rich Birch — A couple of years ago, I was in London, England, and was at a church and was talking to the vicar. And he was, we were just walking around their building… Eric Holmstrom — Wow. Rich Birch — …and he said, yeah, this wall over here is a thousand years old. Eric Holmstrom — Yeah. Rich Birch — And, and then he had similar, they have ah really literally written on the wall, all the pastors through the years.Eric Holmstrom — Yeah.Rich Birch — And he pointed at some guy and said, that guy is written in a play by Shakespeare. Like he’s literally a character in Shakespeare.Eric Holmstrom — No way.Rich Birch — Yeah. So I was like, man, that’s just a, you know, thinking about legacy this is a very different way to think about it.Eric Holmstrom — Oh, oh, oh.Rich Birch — Right. And I’ve been around forever. Well, let’s go back to those early…Eric Holmstrom — And Rich, I, I…Rich Birch — Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.Eric Holmstrom — Oh, was just gonna I wish you could come and see our church because we have this like heritage wall of like, you know, our church, different seasons, doing different things, buildings, groups, whatever. And there’s a wall of all of us like lead pastors. And you should see that wall. These lead pastors are like the most distinguished, like, you know, FB then their last name, Reverend, Doctor. And they’ve got the suits and the glorious beards and they look amazing. And then there’s me, this buffoon, who is this guy? Like who how did if he make this cut?Rich Birch — One of these things doesn’t belong.Eric Holmstrom — I don’t fit in, but I’m just humbled and honored that God would choose me. D.L. Moody has that line, or his son, Paul Moody. D.L. Moody is one of my mentors, and ah you know historical mentors. But his son, Paul, said that ah about his dad, he said, D.L. Moody never got over that God would use him, despite all of his handicaps. And that ah his wife, the love of his life would choose to love him.Eric Holmstrom — And I just feel like I’m that I'm that man. I'm just I’m so amazed and honored that I get to be a part of this legacy church and that my wife and my family love me. And that, you know, I’m just, I feel very grateful and humbled.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s so cool. Well, let’s go back to those early days of the transition. You know, what’s going through your head when you’re following in the footsteps of someone who’s been there for 31 years? That’s a significant time to step in on. What were what were you aware of, you know, in those early days? What was kind of thing that was bubbling around in your head?Eric Holmstrom — Oh, oh my gosh. Okay. The thing bubbling around my head is, am I an idiot? Like why? This is like following Rick Warren. This is like following Billy Graham. Like why? I mean, Pastor Glenn Gunderson is one, just he’s nationally known, internationally. He’s he’s just such an incredible, amazing pastor and leader, and 31 years here at our church, just faithfully leading.Eric Holmstrom — And so why would I want to follow him? Like that, it just, ah you know, so there was a lot of insecurity and just fear around that. I’m thinking through the whole process for anyone that’s gone through a similar process, just feeling very vulnerable, honestly. Eric Holmstrom — I mean, lots of people in our church and different groups were having conversations about me and whether they saw me in this role and, ah you know, that that just felt very exposing and and made me feel very vulnerable.Eric Holmstrom — And at the same time, like really excited, like really the going, wow, like this, this would be a dream. You know, I think for me, I went through kind of a life planning, my wife and I went through a life planning process with an executive pastor of another church and and and a life coach. It was amazing experience. And basically what surfaced for me is, you know, I feel like my calling is to lead every generation to leverage everything they have to advance God’s kingdom.Eric Holmstrom — And so I really kind of grew through my ministry years of going, I really am passionate about leading every generation. And leading every generation to make a mark, to to leave a legacy, to do something great with their lives.Eric Holmstrom — When I gave my life to Christ going into my freshman year of high school, I remember praying, Lord, ah I’ll follow you. I’ll become a Christian, but you’ve got to make it an adventure. Because to me, I felt like, well, maybe being a Christian would be a boring thing. And I felt like God was laughing going, you have no idea what adventure is. Adventure is being a Jesus follower. And and so I just want people to wake up to the adventure of following Christ. Eric Holmstrom — And so I had those mixture of emotions of insecurity, fear. I remember the morning of the congregational vote where, you know, we had done this like six months of work and interviews.Eric Holmstrom — And it all came down to how many people were going to gather in the room, how many people were going to vote.Eric Holmstrom — There there had to be at least in our polity structure, at least two thirds of the people had to vote in favor of me being the next lead pastor. And I’m getting calls and texts from buddies who are like, Eric, we’re cheering you on. Can’t make it tonight. Sorry, man, have this pizza dinner. And I’m like, I’m like, bro, I need you there. Like I need you in the room.Eric Holmstrom — But but anyway, that morning, I was on a run and just feeling so insecure, feeling, you know, Satan was just bringing to mind all my sin, all my shortcomings. And man, the Lord met me. I feel like I got this vision and this picture of Jesus holding my right hand. And I was going, wow. Like it was just powerful. But then I’m like, okay, where is that in the Bible? And then the Lord led me to Isaiah 41:13, “for I am the Lord, your God who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, do not fear. I will help you.”Eric Holmstrom — And was going, okay, if, if, if we’re going to step into this next season and Lord willing, you know, we, we’d love to be here 20, 30 years, however long the Lord would have us here. I believe Jesus is holding my right hand and he is leading me and helping me through our amazing staff and our board and our congregation and our volunteers and everyone involved.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s so good. And, you know, for context, a part of the reason why we’re talking to you is because your church has been flagged as one of the fastest growing churches. Eric Holmstrom — Yeah.Rich Birch — So listeners, like, let’s put this in context here. This transition happened and the church continued to accelerate and reach more people…Eric Holmstrom — Yeah.Rich Birch — …which I think can be a fear on the on the side of maybe the departing leaders. They’re like, hey, what’s going to happen? Is this thing going to go sideways? Well, it hasn’t. It’s actually continued to accelerate. So, and I even have seen this even as we’ve you know kind of interacted today. Eric Holmstrom — Yeah.Rich Birch — How do you think about honoring what’s happened, so honoring the past…Eric Holmstrom — Yeah.Rich Birch — …honoring the leadership and what’s happened there, but still really continuing to lead god lead the church into what God has for the church, into something new. How has that tension, I’ve seen you model it already in this conversation…Eric Holmstrom — Yeah, yeah. Rich Birch — …but how does that work out you know in your leadership?Eric Holmstrom — Oh, that’s such a great question. And what’s awesome is like, we don’t have to fake it here at Purpose Church because our lead pastor, our former lead pastor, Glenn Gunderson, did such an amazing job creating a church culture here where, you know, he used to always say, ah this church is is a hospital for sinners, not a museum for saints.Eric Holmstrom — He would always talk about, um we’re a church that goes after the one.Eric Holmstrom — And we have ah a… a high celebrate recovery culture here, model here of people come as they are. And and really it’s it’s it’s a beautiful church to be a part of in terms of, you know, we’ve had people on our staff who were homeless sleeping on our church campus and then we offered them a job. They went through recovery. Now they’re leading different ministry areas. Eric Holmstrom — We’ve got people on our staff who were very high up in, in, industries that ah are just really dark and broken. And God has redeemed them and we brought them on our church staff and now they’re working for God’s kingdom and doing great things.Eric Holmstrom — And so, our church culture has always been one of, especially under Pastor Glenn’s leadership, of we want to reach people that are far from God. Our vision is everyone everywhere following Jesus.Eric Holmstrom — We literally mean everyone, wherever they’re at, following Jesus, which means there’s a starting point for their relationship with God. And they continue, that we continue being discipled, continue growing in our relationship So what I’m trying to do is, especially as I started in this role, is honor what’s been, because we’ve got this amazing momentum moving forward because of their hard work.Eric Holmstrom — And because of this church culture that has been created. So we’re trying to honor the past, trying to thank God for the ways that he has led our church and then continue to move into the future and and start new ways of reaching people through some invite Sundays that we’ve done through different sermon series, through reaching out to our neighborhood and our community more.Eric Holmstrom — And so, it’s been an awesome progression and you’re right. We have seen a lot of growth ah while Pastor Glenn was our lead pastor and by God’s grace, he’s continued to grow this church over the last almost two years that I’ve been the lead pastor.Rich Birch — Yes, that’s great. So let’s again, we’re thinking about these early days, you’re in this chair. How did you get clarity on where you should be spending your time? It’s an interesting shift, right?Eric Holmstrom — Yes.Rich Birch — You go from being the person on the team to now you’re responsible for the team, ultimate flexibility, you can make up your own day.Eric Holmstrom — Yes. Yes.Rich Birch — How did you figure that out?Eric Holmstrom — Yes. Yes. And that’s the word, that’s the hardest part for me is in this role as lead pastor, I could get involved in anything I wanted to, right? I could schedule a meeting with anyone. And and so I had to quickly discern, okay, what does the church need most from me? And what is it that only I can do and only I should be doing? Eric Holmstrom — And so what kind of quickly surfaced for me is I need to be giving my best energy towards what’s the vision and direction of our church.Eric Holmstrom — What’s the spiritual direction of our church? Now, I’m not just casting vision by myself. I’ve got an amazing executive pastor, Pastor Greg, who he he’s he’s a rock star. I mean, he hired me here at this church. And then through this process, I became his boss. Rich Birch — Oh wow.Eric Holmstrom — And he is just, he is such an amazing, humble, incredible executive pastor.Eric Holmstrom — He’s been a lead pastor before and has no desire to be a lead pastor again. So he is just been, he was such a champion carrying our church through that season of transition and now being an amazing executive pastor.Eric Holmstrom — So, you know, we’re developing vision through time with my executive pastor and our strategic team, our pastors. But at the end of the day, I’m seeking the Lord going, okay, God, taking in all of this inside and time away with you. What’s the vision and direction you’re leading our church in? What’s the spiritual direction? And then for me, a core role that I have here is developing and discipling and training up our staff, our pastors and our leaders. And then, of course, as a pastor, I love doing congregational care and and there is time built into my schedule for that. But honestly, if I’m doing my job best, according to Ephesians 4:12, I’m equipping the saints for ministry. Rich Birch — Yeah.Eric Holmstrom — And so really what I need to be doing is pouring into our staff here, who are then caring for and ministering to our congregation, many of whom I only interact with, you know, many of our, much of our congregation, I only interact with on Sunday morning when I see them or, um you know, if they happen to come forward or we send an email, it’s really our church staff and then our high capacity volunteers who are discipling, mentoring, coaching, walking with the rest of our church. So that’s where I’ve been focusing a lot of my attention.Eric Holmstrom — Also on culture. That’s become a really important one. You know I’m constantly thinking through, okay, what do I need to be focusing on externally for our church?Eric Holmstrom — But then what about internally? How do we be the healthiest we can be as an organization and as a church? And so we did something this last year, we basically took a year and said, we are going to develop ah what we ended up calling an employee spiritual commitment, where we are making some decisions as a staff and a team This is who we are going to be. This is going to be our culture. Eric Holmstrom — Because Rich, I have discovered that the longer you become, longer you’ve been a Christian and and and once you get on staff or become a high capacity volunteer or whatever, Satan likes to trick us into thinking that we become the exception. Eric Holmstrom — And so what I’m telling our staff all the time is you are not the exception. You are the example. Rich Birch — good.Eric Holmstrom — As soon as you join a staff, you start thinking, you know what? I don’t need to tithe here or give, that’s what other people do. I don’t need to serve because I work here at the church. I don’t need to read my Bible for my own intimacy and time with the Lord. I just read my Bible to prepare sermons. I don’t need to be in a life group. That would be hard for me as a church staff member. That’s for ever…. So I’m gonna tell everybody else, you need to be reading your Bible, you need to be tithing, you need to be serving, you to be in a life group, but those things don’t apply for me because I’m the exception.Eric Holmstrom — Wrong. Peter talks about it in 1 Peter 5. Be an example. Be an example the flock.Rich Birch — Love that.Eric Holmstrom — So we made some commitments and we worked on them. We prayed through them. We talked about them with our staff and we shared them and then gave people four months to say, hey, if you’re not about this, that’s okay.Eric Holmstrom — You’re still Christian. You just can’t work here, right? And like try to be as gracious and kind as we as we could be say, hey, we’re not saying you’re not a Christian.Rich Birch — Wow. Yes.Eric Holmstrom — We’re not saying you don’t love Jesus. We’re just saying. These are going to be the commitments we are going to keep as the staff and the leaders of Purpose Church so that we can look at our congregation and say, we want to be an example to you, not an exception to you.Eric Holmstrom — So I’ve been really wrestling with that culture of our staff, culture of our church, and then also kind of vision direction, spiritual direction of of where we’re going and developing.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s so good. I’d love to talk a little bit more on the rollout of the commitments. I think that’s that’s amazing. Eric Holmstrom — Yeah.Rich Birch — And um you know you know you brought it up there. Hey, we’re going to give the four months for you to wrestle through this and think about it. Maybe just double click on that because I think it’s great that you’re calling your team to that.Eric Holmstrom — Okay.Rich Birch — But just give me a little more about well how that went. What would you do different if you’d done it again? What went well? What didn’t go well?Eric Holmstrom — Totally.Rich Birch — What would you advise the clients if they called and said, hey, we’re thinking about doing something like that?Eric Holmstrom — Yeah, so it really started with me and our executive pastor and our chief of operations here. We were in a meeting and we were like, look, we just think it’s important that our whole staff embody these values. And then we asked each other, hey, would we be willing to lose amazing people who are doing amazing work, but don’t necessarily fit with our culture? Like, would we be willing to lose them? And we all looked at each other and said, you know what? It’s worth it. It’s worth it. It feels like the right thing to do. It feels like the step that honors God.Eric Holmstrom — And so it started with that commitment and that that, you know, recognition, like we may lose people in the process. And then, you know, we started to work on it with our pastors and our staff, roll it out. But before we did that too, we we sent it to our lawyer and we sent it to our trustees.Eric Holmstrom — They looked through it. We sent it to our lawyer because they’re like, are we doing anything illegal here? And ah our lawyer wrote back the most beautiful, you know, I guess maybe this is one of the ways you know, like, you’re you’re a lead pastor is like when when when you get an email from your lawyer that’s like really affirming, you start crying.Eric Holmstrom — And so I’m just like, she she she sent me an email, she sent us an email and she said, I stand by all of these commitments. And if I lived in your area, because she’s, think she’s in Alabama. She said, if I lived in your area, I would go to your church because I would want to be led by a staff like this. Rich Birch — That’s so good.Eric Holmstrom — And so it was very, very affirming. So it was important to run it, you know, to collaborate with our pastors, run it through our lawyer, ah run it through our trustees, getting all the input, all those things. And then we shared it with our staff.Eric Holmstrom — I wrote kind of like a cover letter for, hey, here’s my heart behind it. It’s because I want you to be a healthy leader.Rich Birch — That’s good.Eric Holmstrom — It’s because I want you to be an example. It’s because I want your work in ministry to be meaningful. And I care about you as a leader. And I care about the health of our church. And then we shared it with the staff and said, hey, you’ve got, I think it was three three months to pray on this. And then we need you to sign this and commit to this as we go into the new year together.Eric Holmstrom — And and and thankfully, everybody committed to it. We had, but but that three to four months also gave opportunity for conversations. And we invited those. You said, hey, there’s anything unclear in this for your situation or your season of life, like, let’s talk about this.Eric Holmstrom — And it was really, really great. It gave us a lot of opportunities to have conversation, clarifying conversations, and to help people not misunderstand things, but to understand the heart and and how it might apply to them.Eric Holmstrom — And it’s been really cool to see our staff… Rich Birch — that’s cool. Eric Holmstrom — …invested more in groups, invested more in setting that example for our church.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s great. I love that. And, you know, what even a great kind of alignment thing to go through as you’re starting to lead, you know, to say, hey, let’s try to define what is going to be really important for us. Rich Birch — So going in a totally different direction. You mentioned it as we kind of flew through there and love invite culture stuff. And so you mentioned invite Sundays. And so that caught my eye. Tell me about those. How have they function? How does that look different than from what you’ve done before? Yeah, just kind of unpack that a little bit for us.Eric Holmstrom — Yeah. Yeah. Well, Rich, I’ve heard on your podcast, which by the way, I’m a big fan of unSeminary. I think your podcast is awesome. And I’m a big fan of seminary. I went to seminary. I went to two different seminaries.Rich Birch — Yes.Eric Holmstrom — I love seminary, but I think we can learn so much from each other. And so to everyone listening, I’m just so grateful you’re joining us today. And I’m always getting on our staff here as they’re joining, as they’re, you know, becoming a seminary student, as they’re going to graduate school to, hey, continue to serve in a local church.Eric Holmstrom — When I went to seminary, there were several students, colleagues who were only doing seminary. They were disconnected from the local church. And I’m like, what are you doing? You’re missing out on applying what you’re learning. Rich Birch — It’s so true.Eric Holmstrom — But there’s so much that seminary can’t teach you or doesn’t teach you. And so podcasts like yours, Rich, like the one you have here is absolutely amazing. Eric Holmstrom — One the things you’ve talked about on your podcast is how most people are invited to church by somebody else. So so we do you know promotions on social media and on our website and you know all that stuff. But we wanted to prioritize equipping our church and giving our church family an excuse for to invite their friends and their family to church.Eric Holmstrom — And so we have four or five of these invite Sundays every year where we try to keep them very similar to what somebody would experience on a Sunday morning, just heightened a little bit. So we’ll get bounce houses. We’ll we’ll bring a food truck in. We’ve even kind of experimented with like launching into a series. So we did a spiritual warfare series in the fall called “The War You’re In.”Eric Holmstrom — And it launched on our invite Sunday. And the the the idea was, let’s give these new people who are coming chapter one of this story of this book and see if it piques their interest. But weeks leading up to that, we’re telling our church family, we call them Sunday Funday. how we kind of brand them, but we tell our church family, hey, Sunday Funday is coming up. Don’t come to church alone. Invite your neighbor, invite your friends. Who’s your one more that doesn’t know Jesus? This is a great opportunity to invite them. And and every Sunday here at Purpose Church is a great Sunday to bring somebody. Rich Birch — Right.Eric Holmstrom — I do a salvation message about once a month or so. We’ve seen a lot of people surrender their lives to Christ this year. We’ve had more baptisms this year than we had in the last 10 years. It’s just been incredible. So we’re seeing people take those first steps, but we’re trying to equip our church family. We’re telling them, hey, here’s what we’re talking about.Rich Birch — That’s good.Eric Holmstrom — Leading into Easter. I mean, Easter is an invite Sunday for us. It’s a big outreach Sunday for us. So multiple weeks leading up to Easter, I’m telling our church family, this is what I’m talking about. You know, this this Easter, last Easter, our theme was a second chance. So I’m telling our church family, hey, if you’ve got somebody in your life who needs a second chance, this is their Easter. This is the service for them. Eric Holmstrom — So I’m trying to, we’re trying to help our congregation get excited about what’s happening here, equipping them with flyers, talking about what we’ll be talking about, making it an environment through ah worship, greeting the message through the atmosphere and the environment. I mean, I think one of our secret sauces here at Purpose Church is we don’t have the biggest budget, but we’ve got big hearts. Rich Birch — That’s right.Eric Holmstrom — The people of Purpose Church have big hearts. They love people well. They make people feel at home and welcomed here. And so we want to leverage that. We want to see new people coming on our campus and and giving all of us an opportunity to welcome them, love them. And and and we’re seeing people stick around, which has been exciting.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s so cool. Love that. Just to call out friends, ah there’s a lot there that you should rip off if you’re listening in. There’s so good. I love that. But one of the things that many churches miss on trying to build invite culture is we we think that like if we kind of surprise our people, that they’ll like that. It’s like, oh, there’s some big thing happening on that day. You’re going to want to invite your friends to be here.Rich Birch — That’s actually not how people think. You need, they need to be very predictable. The fact that you’re saying, this is exactly what we’re going to be teaching on. Do you know someone who asks questions like this, this, and this? You need to get them to be here that day. That is a great best practice there for sure. I love I love that.Eric Holmstrom — Oh, thanks Rich.Rich Birch — As opposed to like, oh, hey, it’s going to be great, um you know which just doesn’t mean anything to people.Eric Holmstrom — Yep. And and we used to do like Easter services at a different location, you know, with more seating.Rich Birch — Right.Eric Holmstrom — But we’ve just gone, man, we want the experience to feel as similar as possible on a Sunday morning. So our church family’s equipped to know what are we going to be talking about? What’s going to be happening? But then for that new person who comes, we want them to feel the familiarity of the parking experience, of dropping off their kids, of where they’re sitting.Eric Holmstrom — And so that as they’re making that decision, “Am I going to come back again?”, they’ll know what that experience is going to be like. And then of course, we have an amazing next steps team that’s following up with these people. That is, we’re getting information. We’re inviting them to scan a QR code to connect with us. We have a gift for them. And then our team is doing a great job of following up with them and helping them take the next steps that they want to take.Rich Birch — Yeah, it’s so good. Well, let’s think about the succession question again, you know, going back to that conversation. So for a pastor who might be listening in today, who is, they are the person that is going to be, you know, taking the baton. Eric Holmstrom — Yeah.Rich Birch — Maybe they’re before the actual transition, but they’re thinking about their first 90 days, 100 days.Eric Holmstrom — Yes. Yes.Rich Birch — What would what advice would you give to them? How how would you help them think about their their their initial days as they’re launching off?Eric Holmstrom — Oh, that’s so great. Okay. So the first thing I tried to do was to make a commitment that I’m going to shepherd people and pastor people right where they are. And what I mean by that is there were people in our church who were grieving that our former lead pastor was leaving. And what they didn’t need from me was vision, vision, vision. What they needed from me is, Hey, I get it. I’m I’m sad too. Like I’m going to miss him.Eric Holmstrom — And and so our job was to shepherd and pastor them. And by the way, I told this to all of our staff and our pastors. I said, don’t feel like you have to you know hype me up or or if people are sad that things are changing, that you have to try to convince them. Like there’s that whole change curve. It’s going to take people time and people are on different places. And so shepherding and pastoring people who were really struggling and and having a difficult time with the change, meeting them where they’re at.Eric Holmstrom — There were also people who had recently come to our church. I just met ah a guy last Sunday who’s been coming for like a couple months now and he’s brand new to our church. And he’s like, man, I love it here. Love you, Pastor Eric. And and there was a guy who preached like a couple of weeks ago. I think he like led the church for like 30 years or something. He was great. He was amazing. Eric Holmstrom — I’m like, Oh my goodness. You don’t know pastor Glenn Gunderson at all. You don’t know him.Rich Birch — Yes.Eric Holmstrom — And and so what he needs is vision for where we’re going.Rich Birch — Yes.Eric Holmstrom — So pastoring and shepherding people right where they are, instead of trying to force everybody into one category.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good.Eric Holmstrom — Second thing that I just felt the Lord leading me to do that I’ve just continued to do is I start every single sermon the exact same way. I tell our church every single Sunday, I greet the new people and it’s it’s a for everybody, whether you’re new or you’ve been a part of our church forever.Eric Holmstrom — I greet them the same way. I say, I love you. And most importantly, God loves you. And that sort of came out of me asking this question, what do I wanna be remembered for? Like, what’s the thing that at the end of the day, these people are not gonna remember all my sermons, all my points, but if they if they remembered one thing about me as their pastor, what would it be? And it’s that I would want them to know I love them and that God loved them.Rich Birch — That’s so good.Eric Holmstrom — And 1 Thessalonians 2:8 really like has been my ministry motto. Paul says, because we loved you so much, we cared for you, we shared the gospel and we shared our lives as well. Rich Birch — That’s good.Eric Holmstrom — So Paul’s talking about this this ministry that’s born out of a deep love for the people that you’re pastoring. And so I I’m always praying right before I preach. I pray the same thing. God, would you put your message in me like a fire in my bones? And would you help me to see these people the way you see them and to feel about them the way you feel about them?Rich Birch — That’s so good.Eric Holmstrom — And I’ve had moments when I’ve been preaching where it’s like, I just feel like the Spirit of God deposits into my heart his incredible love for them. And I start tearing up over something.Eric Holmstrom — But but I tell them every Sunday, I love you. And most importantly, God loves you. So that when I give them a convicting word, a challenging word, something where I’m calling them to a higher standard, they know it’s coming from a pastor that doesn’t want to beat them up or that doesn’t care about them or is trying to build some platform.Eric Holmstrom — It comes from a pastor who loves them and who is deeply, deeply convinced that God loves them. So I’m sharing that with them um each Sunday. And I’ve heard from a lot of people that that that really resonates and and feels significant for them.Rich Birch — Yeah it’s good. Eric Holmstrom — Yeah. Rich Birch — I think that’s great. I think the the thing to point out there that I think is, I just think is amazing is good is I think oftentimes we when we think about that kind of transition we can go to the like immediate the tactics or the whatever you know like oh make sure you meet with all these people or whatever. And what I’ve seen in churches that this transition has gone well is there’s a humility with both leaders, which both of you, which you have described him in these conversations today, like that, you know, when Glenn passed it to you, there was ah that humble moment. And he obviously continues to, you know, he gave some space, but has continued to handle himself in a humble way.Eric Holmstrom — Yeah.Rich Birch — You’re handling yourself with humility as well. And, you know, the, I like that you’re pushing on really ah a deeper issue, which is like, do you love these people at the end of the day? You know you’re not taking over some organization this is a family that you’re called to lead. And so I mean I think that’s just so good. That’s fantastic. Eric Holmstrom — Yeah. And then, Rich, I would just want to say too, in addition to that is then starting to cast some vision and direction for, okay, where is God taking this church? So one of the things we did is we started to a new rhythm of Vision Sunday once a year. So we actually, it’s coming up in a couple Sundays. We try to do it right before summer. We do it actually, it aligns with our fiscal budget year. So one of the things that we tried to make a a commitment around is, hey, we’re gonna be a vision-driven church. We’re gonna have vision-driven budgeting. So it’s not just, hey, can I get $1,000 more than last year or whatever? It’s it’s what’s the vision that God has given you for your ministry, for your department, and we’re budgeting around that. Eric Holmstrom — But that starts with me as I’m with my team, I’m a collaborative visionary. And as I’m hearing from the Lord, what’s the vision and direction for our church? And so ah first Sunday of June, we do a big vision Sunday where we celebrate what God has been doing. And where we cast vision for the next year. And so that’s part of what I’m doing too.Rich Birch — That’s good.Eric Holmstrom — And what I did early on and continue to do is to keep vision in front of our church of where are we going? What things are we starting? What are we praying and hoping to see the Lord do? And what’s their part in that?Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s so good. Well, this has been a fantastic conversation. Any final words just as we wrap up today’s discussion?Eric Holmstrom — Yeah, absolutely. Well, I would just say that the last thing I would want to say is I think as as a lead pastor or, and if preaching is a high priority for you, recognizing that we do so much leadership through our preaching. Rich Birch — That’s the truth.Eric Holmstrom — And so that that became a really important thing for me in terms of figuring out, okay, how do I go about writing the sermon? How do I edit the sermon? How do I prepare and practice the sermon and then ultimately get some evaluation on the sermon?Eric Holmstrom — And so that’s been a journey for me of of learning how to do that well. And I think some of the things I’ve I’ve learned along the way is there’s parts of it you don’t love and that are more challenging. For me, it’s the editing. Eric Holmstrom — And I think a lot of preachers and pastors are probably like that. You know, on Mondays, I’ll start going, man, I think I only have a 15 minute sermon here. By Thursday, I’m like, I’ve got an 80 minute sermon here. And so the the I think the difference between good sermons and great sermons is great sermons are are are ones where we cut out the good stuff. It’s all good stuff, but we cut out the good stuff to make enough room for the great stuff. Eric Holmstrom — And then getting people’s feedback, you know? So after i write the sermon, I edit it, I still practice my sermons even before delivering them I have a rhythm of, they gotta be done by Thursdays because I wanna enjoy some of my weekend. And so I’m practicing my sermons, but then, after preaching my sermons, I have kind of an evaluation form that I give different people in our church to give me direct feedback because there’s things I’m not seeing.Eric Holmstrom — And especially leading up into Easter and some of these invite Sundays, I’ll actually deliver my sermon to several people on our staff. They’ll give me direct feedback. And sometimes it’s not what I want to hear. Sometimes the story I’m so excited about, they’re going, hey, you know what? I don’t think it fits here. Or and my sermons have always been better because of their feedback.Eric Holmstrom — And so that’s something I’m really passionate about is helping. Rich Birch — That’s good. Eric Holmstrom — We started a preacher’s club. That’s part of the, one of the things that I’m trying to do in terms of developing our ministry leaders. And so we started a preacher’s club where we meet once a month and, everyone gives, you know, or one or two people will give a 10 minute sermon and we give each other feedback. I share with them some tips and tricks, things I’m learning, and we watch other sermons and evaluate them. Eric Holmstrom — And so ah that that’s been an important aspect, I think, for me is really is realizing that that for for our church, 90% of our community interacts with me on a Sunday morning through my sermon. And so I want to be really intentional to shepherd and pastor and care for them and to give them the very best that I can. And so that’s been some of the process for me. Rich Birch — So good. That’s, that’s fantastic. That’s like a little preaching clinic you just gave us there. That’s so good. So many good things to unpack there. This has been a fantastic conversation, Eric. I really appreciate your time today. If, where do we want to send people online? If they want to track with you or with the church, where do we want to send them?Eric Holmstrom — Oh man, well, you could go to our church webpage, purposechurch.com. We’re on Instagram, Purpose Pomona. You could follow me on Instagram, eric.h.holmstrom. Good luck spelling that. But I would love to you know I would love to interact with you on Instagram. That’s kind of the only place that I’m at. But yeah, thank you. And Rich, this has been a really rich conversation rich rich conversation I appreciate you, man.Rich Birch — Nice.Eric Holmstrom — And I’m I'm grateful for your ministry.Rich Birch — Thanks so much for being here today.

Send us Fan MailEp. 174: Lidereando a personalidades difíciles IIPARTE 2En nuestro equipo siempre habrá gente diferente a nosotros mismos. Hoy el Dr. Abel Ledezma nos compartirá sobres esas diferencia y también dará principios claves en como dirigir a esas personalidades que contrastan la suya.Siguenos:INSTAGRAM:@liderazgo_enfocado@drabelledezmaSerie: La Realidad del Liderazgo Sección II: Desarrollando LíderesEl Dr. Ledezma comparte da serie titulada “La Realidad del Liderazgo”. La segunda parte de esta serie se comparte de la importancia de rodearse con personas que levantan a su equipo y de como escogerlas.MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVO Si estas en el área de San Diego, CA le hacemos una invitación a nuestras capacitaciones mensuales de liderazgo en vivo. Nuestro próximo evento es el 29 de junio y 27 de julio, 2026 en Centro Familiar Cristiano, 5901 Rancho Hills Drive. Si no estas en el área, nos puedes ver en línea y en vivo desde nuestra página oficial.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Como chegamos ao atual debate sobre discipulado, pequenos grupos, liderança leiga, plantação de igrejas e revitalização missionária? Neste episódio, percorremos setenta anos de história para compreender como o Movimento de Crescimento de Igrejas influenciou o cristianismo contemporâneo, o adventismo e a forma como muitos líderes enxergam a missão, a liderança e a organização eclesiástica. Partindo de Donald McGavran, passando por C. Peter Wagner, Peter Drucker, Bill Hybels e Rick Warren, chegamos à contribuição singular de Russell Burrill e sua tentativa de recuperar uma visão autenticamente adventista do discipulado, do sacerdócio de todos os crentes e da missão apostólica. Neste episódio você descobrirá: ✅ Como nasceu o Movimento de Crescimento de Igrejas ✅ O que mudou quando a missão passou a ser medida pelo crescimento ✅ A influência de Peter Drucker e das megachurches na liderança cristã ✅ Os limites do modelo consumerista de igreja ✅ O papel de Russell Burrill na revitalização adventista ✅ O que Ellen White ensinou sobre pastores equipadores e membros missionários ✅ Como o sistema representativo adventista se relaciona com a missão ✅ Por que o adventismo não precisa importar uma visão apostólica — mas redescobrir a sua própria identidade Mais do que uma análise histórica, este episódio é um convite à reflexão sobre o futuro da liderança adventista, da missão local e do discipulado no contexto do tempo do fim. Links Instagram http://instagram.com/alexpalmeira7 Podcast Catalisadores http://open.spotify.com/show/6zJyD0vW8MnyRKPYZtk3B5?si=065e95b72bca4b13 X http://x.com/alexpalmeira9 Facebook http://facebook.com/profile.php?id=100069360678042

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Send us Fan MailEp. 173: Lidereando a personalidades difíciles IPARTE 1En nuestro equipo siempre habrá gente diferente a nosotros mismos. Hoy el Dr. Abel Ledezma nos compartirá sobres esas diferencia y también dará principios claves en como dirigir a esas personalidades que contrastan la suya.Siguenos:INSTAGRAM:@liderazgo_enfocado@drabelledezmaSerie: La Realidad del Liderazgo Sección II:Desarrollando LíderesEl Dr. Ledezma comparte da serie titulada “La Realidad del Liderazgo”. La segunda parte de esta serie se comparte de la importancia de rodearse con personas que levantan a su equipo y de como escogerlas.MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVO Si estas en el área de San Diego, CA le hacemos una invitación a nuestras capacitaciones mensuales de liderazgo en vivo. Nuestro próximo evento es el 29 de junio, 2026 en Centro Familiar Cristiano, 5901 Rancho Hills Drive. Si no estas en el área, nos puedes ver en línea y en vivo desde nuestra página oficial.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

We're continuing our summer series with a recap of the week's top headlines and relevant conversation from The Bulletin archive. This week, President Trump signed a short-term deal with Iran, with many saying the US got the losing end of the deal. We re-air a conversation from May in which Russell Moore, Bonnie Kristian, and Clarissa Moll discuss the difficulty of negotiating with Iran. Then, President Trump hosted his 80th birthday on the White House South Lawn complete with a UFC fight in which the winners were paid with cryptocurrency produced by a Trump family organization. The Atlantic's Tom Nichols joins to discuss why Trump is interested in cryptocurrency and why it may be concerning. The Southern Baptist Convention recently voted to ban churches who ordain women or allow women to preach. We revisit a conversation between Nicole Martin and Mike Cosper in which they discuss the issue in the context of Rick Warren's Saddleback Community Church being expelled from the SBC in 2023. Finally, Nicole Martin shares about how we as believers can collectively celebrate Juneteenth. GO DEEPER WITH THE BULLETIN: Join the conversation at our Substack. Find us on YouTube. Rate and review the show in your podcast app of choice. ABOUT THE GUESTS: Bonnie Kristian is the deputy editor at Christianity Today. She is the author of Untrustworthy: The Knowledge Crisis Breaking Our Brains, Polluting Our Politics, and Corrupting Christian Community and A Flexible Faith: Rethinking What It Means to Follow Jesus Today. Her writing has been published at outlets including The New York Times, The Week, USA Today, CNN, Politico, and others. Tom Nichols is a staff writer at The Atlantic and an author of the Atlantic Daily newsletter. He is a professor emeritus of national-security affairs at the US Naval War College, where he taught for 25 years, and an instructor at the Harvard Extension School. He has served as a legislative aide in the Massachusetts House and the US Senate. His books include The Death of Expertise and Our Own Worst Enemy: The Assault From Within on Modern Democracy. Dr. Nicole Martin serves Christianity Today as President and CEO. She has more than 25 years of nonprofit, academic, ministry leadership, and church engagement experience and has served at CT since 2023 as Chief Impact Officer and most recently Chief Operating Officer. ABOUT THE BULLETIN: The Bulletin is a twice-weekly news analysis podcast from Christianity Today, with editor-at-large Russell Moore. Each episode offers commentary on current events and headlining news with a roundtable of premier guests, and shares a Christian perspective on issues that are shaping our world The Bulletin listeners get 25% off CT. Go to https://orderct.com/THEBULLETIN to learn more. “The Bulletin” is a production of Christianity Today Host: Alexa Copeland Associate Producers: Alexa Copeland Editing and Mix: Kevin Morris Graphic Design: Rick Szuecs Music: Dan Phelps Executive Producer: Erik Petrik Senior Producer: Matt Stevens Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Send us Fan MailEp. 172: Como liderear a las siete personas más difíciles IIEl Dr. Abel Ledezma regresa a la serie de La Realidad. El tema de hoy es una reflexión propia del Dr. Ledezma basada en sus experiences y trayectoria. INSTAGRAM:@liderazgo_enfocado@drabelledezmaSerie: La Realidad - Sección Tres - Resolviendo los conflictos Hay lideres que tratan y aceptan que hay conflictos, pero no saben como resolver los conflictos de una manera saludable. MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVORegresamos con nuestras conferencias mensuales de liderazgo el 29 de junio, 2026 con la serie titulada: Desarrollando líderes altamente efectivos.Conferencias son gratuitas, marca su calendario te esperamos ver en persona o en linea.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Send us Fan MailEp. 171Después de un gran episodio con Emmanuel Espinosa, el Dr. Abel Ledezma regresa a la serie de La Realidad. El tema de hoy es una reflexión propia del Dr. Ledezma basada en sus experiences y trayectoria. INSTAGRAM:@liderazgo_enfocado@drabelledezmaSerie: La Realidad - Sección Tres - Resolviendo los conflictos Hay lideres que tratan y aceptan que hay conflictos, pero no saben como resolver los conflictos de una manera saludable. MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVORegresamos con nuestras conferencias mensuales de liderazgo el 29 de junio, 2026 con la serie titulada: Desarrollando líderes altamente efectivos.Conferencias son gratuitas, marca su calendario te esperamos ver en persona o en linea.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Send us Fan MailEmmanuel Espinosa el fundador y bajista de la banda de Rojo y nos acompaña en nuestro estudio para hablar sobre temas como visión, cultura de equipo, la próxima generación y longevidad.Para más información sobre Emmanuel Espinosa, visita estos enlaces:Instagram y Threads:@emmanuelylindaoficial @realrojooficial @anmiekoficial @emmanuelespinosahttp://www.facebook.com/emmanuelylindaoficialMAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVORegresamos con nuestras conferencias mensuales de liderazgo el 1 y 29 de junio, 2026 con la serie titulada: Desarrollando líderes altamente efectivos.Conferencias son gratuitas, marca su calendario te esperamos ver en persona o en linea.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Psalm 104 Day 9 The Difference Between Joy and Happiness Psalm 104:33-35 “I will sing my song to the Lord as long as I live! Every day, I will sing my praises to God. May you be pleased with every sweet thought I have about you, for you are the source of my joy and gladness. Now, let all the sinners be swept from the earth. But I will keep on praising you, my Lord, with all that is within me. My joyous, blissful shouts of “Hallelujah” are all because of you! We have spent the past eight episodes talking about the Lord's majesty. We talked about all the parts of nature and how amazing God is to have created all of it. We talked about how powerful He is. Today, we are talking about praising the Lord. This is one of my favorite things to discuss and do. Praise is such an essential part of our relationship with the Lord. There have been many times when I have asked the Lord what has helped me grow so much closer to Him, and he always replies, praise, you praise me so often. If we want to grow closer to the Lord, it helps to let Him know how much we appreciate all He has done and continues to do for us. God loves it when we show our appreciation to Him. It is so easy to take Him for granted if we are not careful, because there are so many things He does for us that we don't even see. It is easy to be grateful to the Lord when He saves us from the dangers we know about, the ones we can see. However, what about all the dangers God has prevented from harming us before we saw them? The verse begins with, “I will sing my song to the Lord as long as I live! Every day, I will sing my praises to God.” I hope I can say the same. I hope every day I take time to sing praises to the Lord. He does so much for us. The Lord has protected my family from some pretty scary things. I have had two kids who overdosed on drugs, and yet both are still living with no lasting effects. Our family was falling apart, and the Lord put it back together. I can't even count the number of times we needed something to work out, and God arranged the solution perfectly. God deserves my praise, and I hope I never forget that! Next, the verse says, “May you be pleased with every sweet thought I have about you, for you are the source of my joy and gladness.” This expresses a sentiment I think we all have. We all want the Lord to be pleased with us. I also like how the verse reminds us that the Lord is the source of our joy and gladness. This means we can have joy no matter our circumstances. Happiness and joy are two different things. Happiness is usually based on our circumstances. If something good and fun is happening, we are generally happy. However, Joy is different. I love Rick Warren, the author of A Purpose Driven Life's definition of Joy. He says, “Joy is the settled assurance that God is in control of all the details of my life, the quiet confidence that ultimately everything is going to be alright, and the determined choice to praise God in every situation.” Let's look at this definition a bit more closely. First, it says joy is the settled assurance that God controls all the details of my life. Can you see how we can have more joy when we realize God controls all the details? Everything is not up to me. I don't have to be perfect. I don't have to get it all right. God is in control, not me. Then, it says the quiet confidence that, ultimately, everything will be alright. Can you see how it would be possible to have joy in a difficult situation if you knew that everything would be alright in the end? Things might be crappy right now, but ultimately, eventually, things will be alright, and that makes the joy in the hard times possible. The last part of it ties right in with the verse of the day. It ends with the determined choice to praise God in every situation. Did you know you get to choose whether to praise the Lord? Praising the Lord doesn't have to be based on your feelings. There may be times when you are in the middle of something really difficult and you don't feel like praising the Lord, yet you can choose to praise Him anyway. You could be in a period of dryness with prayer or under spiritual attack, and you don't want to praise the Lord. Yet this is a great time to praise the Lord because it can lift you out of both situations. Praising the Lord when you are under spiritual attack from the enemy is a great way to make the enemy flee. Evil spirits will not stick around when you are proclaiming the name of Jesus Christ. They hate that name. Praising the Lord can bring you joy when you least expect it. Today's verse ends with, “Now, let all the sinners be swept from the earth. But I will keep on praising you, my Lord, with all that is within me. My joyous, blissful shouts of “Hallelujah” are all because of you!” The person who wrote this Psalm asks for all the sinners to be swept from the earth. This would be nice, except that we are all sinners. I am unsure who wrote this and if they had the extraordinary gift of not being a sinner, but I believe that right is solely reserved for Mary. I can see why the person would want all sinners to be swept from the earth. I am sure it breaks God's heart when we sin repeatedly. I have indeed wished that all evil could be removed from this world. However, I think removing all evil and removing all sinners are different. Each one of us sins, so we are sinners, yet I don't think we all need to be wiped off the face of the earth. Who are we to decide who is a sinner and who is not? That is for God to judge. We can only do the best that we can each day. I love how the last thing the verse says is, My joyous, blissful shouts of ‘Hallelujah' are all because of you!” Let that be true for each of us. Let us all have joyous, blissful shouts of “Hallelujah” because of all God does for us. Let us continue to sing out our praise to the Lord for all our days. Let us show the Lord how much we love and appreciate Him. Dear Heavenly Father, I ask you to bless each listener to this episode. Lord, we want to praise you in all circumstances. Show us how. Lord, we want to understand the difference between happiness and joy. Please help us. Lord, help us to see that you are with us in good times and in bad times. Help us to have joy in all circumstances. We love you, Lord, and we ask all of this in accordance with your will and in Jesus's holy name, Amen. Thank you so much for joining me on this journey to walk boldly with Jesus. You never know how one episode can impact someone's life. Share this and let God use it in ways you may never even see. I look forward to meeting you here again tomorrow. Remember, Jesus loves you just as you are, and so do I! May the grace and favor of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your Spirit! Today's Word from the Lord was received in October 2025 by a member of my Catholic Charismatic Prayer Group. If you have any questions about the prayer group, these words, or how to join us for a meeting, please email CatholicCharismaticPrayerGroup@gmail.com. Today's Word from the Lord is, “At the moment of your conception, I already knew the path I had chosen for you and my eternal purposes. It came with you at conception. 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Send us Fan MailPARTE 2Ep. 168: Tratando con personalidades difíciles Hay personalidades que son desafiantes y se pueden encontrar en todas partes. Esta lección el Dr. Ledezma comparte de sus propias experiencias con personas difíciles y nos enseña lo que el ha aprendido.Serie: Las Realidad - Sección Tres - Resolviendo los conflictos Hay lideres que tratan y aceptan que hay conflictos, pero no saben como resolver los conflictos de una manera saludable. MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVORegresamos con nuestras conferencias mensuales de liderazgo el 1 de junio, 2026 con la serie titulada: Desarrollando líderes altamente efectivos.Conferencias son gratuitas, marca su calendario te esperamos ver en persona o en linea.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

It's graduation season, and Brian From mines the best commencement wisdom making the rounds — Eric Church's six guitar strings as six pillars of life (and why faith is the low E that everything else depends on), Rick Warren's sobering reminder that nobody on their deathbed has ever asked for their trophies, and Admiral McRaven's legendary case for why making your bed every morning is actually about the trajectory of your entire day. Then: a genuinely important piece on why parents need to play too — not just schedule their kids' activities, but carve out hobbies, downtime, and unstructured joy for themselves. Research says peak wellbeing hits around $111,000 a year, relationships matter more than wealth, and time may be our greatest currency — but do we actually live like we believe any of that? A 72-year-old grandmother just graduated medical school and is starting her residency, which is either inspiring or convicting depending on where you are with your own dreams. Plus: a company that gave employees a goodie bag instead of a raise, Pizza Hut bringing back the red checkered tablecloths, and a beautiful meditation on why God loves to hear his children cry "help please, Dad."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Send us Fan MailEp. 168: Tratando con personalidades difíciles Hay personalidades que son desafiantes y se pueden encontrar en todas partes. Esta lección el Dr. Ledezma comparte de sus propias experiencias con personas difíciles y nos enseña lo que el ha aprendido.Serie: Las Realidad - Sección Tres - Resolviendo los conflictos Hay lideres que tratan y aceptan que hay conflictos, pero no saben como resolver los conflictos de una manera saludable. MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVORegresamos con nuestras conferencias mensuales de liderazgo el 1 de junio, 2026 con la serie titulada: Desarrollando líderes altamente efectivos.Conferencias son gratuitas, marca su calendario te esperamos ver en persona o en linea.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

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Send us Fan MailPARTE 2Episodio 167: Como resolver problemas con éxito"La mejor manera de escapar de un problema, es resolverlo."Serie: Las Realidad - Sección Tres - Resolviendo los conflictos Hay lideres que tratan y aceptan que hay conflictos, pero no saben como resolver los conflictos de una manera saludable. MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVORegresamos con nuestras conferencias mensuales de liderazgo el 1 de junio, 2026 con la serie titulada: Desarrollando líderes altamente efectivos.Conferencias son gratuitas, marca su calendario te esperamos ver en persona o en linea.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Send us Fan MailPARTE 1Episodio 166: Como resolver problemas con éxito"La mejor manera de escapar de un problema, es resolverlo."Serie: Las Realidad - Sección Tres - Resolviendo los conflictos Hay lideres que tratan y aceptan que hay conflictos, pero no saben como resolver los conflictos de una manera saludable. MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVORegresamos con nuestras conferencias mensuales de liderazgo el 1 de junio, 2026 con la serie titulada: Desarrollando líderes altamente efectivos.Conferencias son gratuitas, marca su calendario te esperamos ver en persona o en linea.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Send us Fan MailEpisodio 165, La ley de los dividendos“Invierta tiempo extra en los componentes del equipo.”NSTAGRAM:@liderazgo_enfocado@drabelledezmaSerie: Las 17 leyes incuestionables del trabajo en equipoEl Dr. Abel Ledezma nos trae enseñanzas para que usted las adopte para así poder capacitar a su equipo. Aún cuando el líder crecía en su area, se entendió que ningún líder puede hacer todo a solas. Por eso esta serie habla a la necesidad de desarrollar lideres como un equipo.MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVO Le hacemos una invitación a nuestras capacitaciones mensuales de liderazgo en vivo. Nuestro próximo evento es el 1 de junio, 2026 en Centro Familiar Cristiano, 5901 Rancho Hills Drive. Si no estas en el área, nos puedes ver en línea y en vivo desde nuestra página oficial.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

This is part two of my discussion with Warren Smith. As I mentioned last week, I consider him to be the foremost expert on the subject of the New Age, not only because of the time he spent in it but his scrutiny of it from a biblical perspective in many of the books such as The Light That Was Dark: From the New Age to Amazing Grace; he did a book on Deceived on Purpose, dealing with Rick Warren's teachings. But a book that I think everybody has to have, especially because of the influence of Jesus Calling, Warren wrote Another “Jesus Calling.” So, Warren, thanks for joining me again on Search the Scriptures 24/7.

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Send us Fan MailEpisodio 164, La ley de la moral alta“Nada duela cuando se está ganando.”INSTAGRAM:@liderazgo_enfocado@drabelledezmaSerie: Las 17 leyes incuestionables del trabajo en equipoEl Dr. Abel Ledezma nos trae enseñanzas para que usted las adopte para así poder capacitar a su equipo. Aún cuando el líder crecía en su area, se entendió que ningún líder puede hacer todo a solas. Por eso esta serie habla a la necesidad de desarrollar lideres como un equipo.MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVO Si estas en el área de San Diego, CA le hacemos una invitación a nuestras capacitaciones mensuales de liderazgo en vivo. Nuestro próximo evento es el 27 de abril, 2026 en Centro Familiar Cristiano, 5901 Rancho Hills Drive. Si no estas en el área, nos puedes ver en línea y en vivo desde nuestra página oficial.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Bài Giảng: Trở Thành Môn Đồ Trong Thời Đại Kỹ Thuật SốDiễn giả: Rick Warren Chuyển ngữ: Đội ngũ Ba-rúcLink gốc:    • "Being A Disciple In The Digital Age" with...  Ngày nay, bạn sở hữu nhiều công nghệ trong túi hơn cả NASA khi họ đưa các phi hành gia lên mặt trăng năm 1969. Chúng ta đều biết những lợi ích của thời đại kỹ thuật số, nhưng còn những mặt trái thì sao? Trong bài giảng này, Mục sư Rick Warren sẽ mô tả sáu mối nguy hiểm về mặt tâm linh của các công cụ kỹ thuật số, cũng như năm cách bạn có thể sử dụng điện thoại thông minh của mình để làm vinh hiển Chúa. Bạn sẽ khám phá ra cách sử dụng mạng xã hội và công nghệ một cách có mục đích.Anh chị em có thể nghe bài giảng audio của Giảng Luận Kinh Thánh tại địa chỉ sau:Spotify: https://sum.vn/HybEqApple podcast: https://sum.vn/SccJBGiảng Luận Kinh Thánh là dự án dịch thuật/lồng tiếng sang tiếng Việt các bài giảng, thông điệp Cơ Đốc kinh điển của những diễn giả đã được thời gian khẳng định và cộng đồng Cơ đốc chung xác nhận. Đây là dự án phi lợi nhuận nhằm cung cấp nguồn tư liệu cho các tôi tớ cùng con dân Chúa tham khảo và sử dụng miễn phí. Để hiểu hơn về chúng tôi vui lòng truy cập website :https://giangluankinhthanh.net/Đội ngũ Giảng Luận Kinh Thánh hoan nghênh mọi đề nghị cộng tác của quý con cái Chúa khắp nơi trong các lĩnh vực như dịch thuật, lồng tiếng, quảng bá, cầu thay, v.v. Nếu quý con cái Chúa sẵn lòng đóng góp công sức của mình vào bất cứ lĩnh vực nào, cùng đồng công trong những sứ điệp giúp tỉnh thức nhiều người.Xin vui lòng điền thông tin cá nhân vào biểu mẫu sau: Kênh Giảng Luận Kinh Thánh hoạt động vì các mục tiêu phi lợi nhuận, không phát quảng cáo. Vì vậy, chúng tôi mong tiếp tục nhận được sự dâng hiến và ủng hộ của quý con cái Chúa khắp nơi trong việc phát triển kênh. Quý vị có thể dâng hiến theo thông tin trong biểu mẫu sau: https://sum.vn/ZZ19mNếu bạn muốn dâng hiến cho các hoạt động của Kênh, xin vui lòng chuyển khoản cho chúng tôi vào số tài khoản dưới đây:Tên tài khoản: Nguyen Thanh Tung - Nguyen Dinh HungSố tài khoản VND: 0010174709250 Số tài khoản USD: 0200143705194 Tên ngân hàng: Ngân hàng MB Bank – Chi nhánh Hoài Đức (Military Commercial Joint Stock Bank - Hoai Duc Branch)SWIFT CODE: MSCBVNVXXin chân thành cảm ơn!#Giangluankinhthanh #RickWarren #baigiangtinlanh #gospel #mondo #thoidaikythuatso #sudiepcodoc

Bài Giảng: Trở Thành Môn Đồ Trong Thời Đại Kỹ Thuật SốDiễn giả: Rick Warren Chuyển ngữ: Đội ngũ Ba-rúcLink gốc:    • "Being A Disciple In The Digital Age" with...  Ngày nay, bạn sở hữu nhiều công nghệ trong túi hơn cả NASA khi họ đưa các phi hành gia lên mặt trăng năm 1969. Chúng ta đều biết những lợi ích của thời đại kỹ thuật số, nhưng còn những mặt trái thì sao? Trong bài giảng này, Mục sư Rick Warren sẽ mô tả sáu mối nguy hiểm về mặt tâm linh của các công cụ kỹ thuật số, cũng như năm cách bạn có thể sử dụng điện thoại thông minh của mình để làm vinh hiển Chúa. Bạn sẽ khám phá ra cách sử dụng mạng xã hội và công nghệ một cách có mục đích.Anh chị em có thể nghe bài giảng audio của Giảng Luận Kinh Thánh tại địa chỉ sau:Spotify: https://sum.vn/HybEqApple podcast: https://sum.vn/SccJBGiảng Luận Kinh Thánh là dự án dịch thuật/lồng tiếng sang tiếng Việt các bài giảng, thông điệp Cơ Đốc kinh điển của những diễn giả đã được thời gian khẳng định và cộng đồng Cơ đốc chung xác nhận. Đây là dự án phi lợi nhuận nhằm cung cấp nguồn tư liệu cho các tôi tớ cùng con dân Chúa tham khảo và sử dụng miễn phí. Để hiểu hơn về chúng tôi vui lòng truy cập website :https://giangluankinhthanh.net/Đội ngũ Giảng Luận Kinh Thánh hoan nghênh mọi đề nghị cộng tác của quý con cái Chúa khắp nơi trong các lĩnh vực như dịch thuật, lồng tiếng, quảng bá, cầu thay, v.v. Nếu quý con cái Chúa sẵn lòng đóng góp công sức của mình vào bất cứ lĩnh vực nào, cùng đồng công trong những sứ điệp giúp tỉnh thức nhiều người.Xin vui lòng điền thông tin cá nhân vào biểu mẫu sau: Kênh Giảng Luận Kinh Thánh hoạt động vì các mục tiêu phi lợi nhuận, không phát quảng cáo. Vì vậy, chúng tôi mong tiếp tục nhận được sự dâng hiến và ủng hộ của quý con cái Chúa khắp nơi trong việc phát triển kênh. Quý vị có thể dâng hiến theo thông tin trong biểu mẫu sau: https://sum.vn/ZZ19mNếu bạn muốn dâng hiến cho các hoạt động của Kênh, xin vui lòng chuyển khoản cho chúng tôi vào số tài khoản dưới đây:Tên tài khoản: Nguyen Thanh Tung - Nguyen Dinh HungSố tài khoản VND: 0010174709250 Số tài khoản USD: 0200143705194 Tên ngân hàng: Ngân hàng MB Bank – Chi nhánh Hoài Đức (Military Commercial Joint Stock Bank - Hoai Duc Branch)SWIFT CODE: MSCBVNVXXin chân thành cảm ơn!#Giangluankinhthanh #RickWarren #baigiangtinlanh #gospel #mondo #thoidaikythuatso #sudiepcodoc

Send us Fan MailEp. 163 La ley de la ventaja"La diferencia entre los equipos igualmente talentosos es el liderazgo"Serie: Las 17 leyes incuestionables del trabajo en equipoEl Dr. Abel Ledezma nos trae enseñanzas para que usted las adopte para así poder capacitar a su equipo. Aún cuando el líder crecía en su area, se entendió que ningún líder puede hacer todo a solas. Por eso esta serie habla a la necesidad de desarrollar lideres como un equipo.MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVO Si estas en el área de San Diego, CA le hacemos una invitación a nuestras capacitaciones mensuales de liderazgo en vivo. Nuestro próximo evento es el 27 de abril, 2026 en Centro Familiar Cristiano, 5901 Rancho Hills Drive. Si no estas en el área, nos puedes ver en línea y en vivo desde nuestra página oficial.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Dumnezeu cere prin Mica: să faci dreptate, să iubești mila,să umbli smerit cu Dumnezeul tău. Nu sunt reguli exterioare, ci expresii ale vieții transformate. Hristos e întruparea perfectă a virtuților. Adevărata smerenie nu înseamnă să te consideri mai puțin important, ci să te gândești mai puțin la tine (Rick Warren).Citește acest devoțional și multe alte meditații biblice pehttps://devotionale.ro#devotionale #devotionaleaudio

Send us Fan MailREPRISE - When Ken researched his Bible School classmate, Melvin Warren, he stumbled across Dr. Curtis' book. It referenced a familiar, legendary press conference. In 1970, at the famed Arch entrance at the Moody Bible Institute in Chicago, Melvin made a speech as the cameras rolled and journalists scribbled notes. He claimed that the school's racism so marred his experience as a student that he tore up his diploma and tossed it into the trash. He made national news.That incident not only drove Ken into a years-long quest to understand the dynamic of racism in his white evangelical church but it also played significantly into the doctoral dissertation of another Moody grad, Dr. Jesse Curtis. Dr. Curtis is now an assistant professor at Valparaiso University. Ken and Jesse compare notes on that momentous event. It prompted Ken's Beached White Male journey. It also contributed to Dr. Curtis' doctoral focus - now a book considered a “must-read” by both Jemar Tisby and Kristin Kobes du Mez. Ken and Jese discuss The Myth of Colorblind Christians: Evangelicals and White Supremacy in the Civil Rights Era.Dr. Curtis covers the history of racism in the white evangelical church, going back to the Billy Graham era, when Howard Jones became the first African American evangelist on “The Team.” Jesse believes that the Church Growth Movement, founded by Donald McGavran, contributed to the segregation that was a feature in the explosive growth of the church at the turn of the century - including “ethnic” congregations and mega-churches. McGavran's protege, C. Peter Wagner, added fuel to that dynamic. In their wide-ranging discussion, they talk about evangelical super-stars like Rick Warren and Bill Hybels as well as champions like Bill Pannell, Tom Skinner, and John Perkins. Curtis argues that the notion of “colorblind Christians” is a myth.While he wrote some five years ago, the case is as relevant as ever. Just this week, in his inaugural address, the 47th President stated, “We will forge a society that is colorblind…” His supporters stood in enthusiastic applause. Ken and Jesse agree: this is not progress. SHOW NOTESFirst Aired JAN 2025Support the showBecome a Patron - Click on the link to learn how you can become a Patron of the show. Thank you!Ken's Substack PageThe Podcast Official Site: TheBeachedWhiteMale.com

Send us Fan MailLa ley de la comunicación"La interacción aviva la acción"Serie: Las 17 leyes incuestionables del trabajo en equipoEl Dr. Abel Ledezma nos trae enseñanzas para que usted las adopte para así poder capacitar a su equipo. Aún cuando el líder crecía en su area, se entendió que ningún líder puede hacer todo a solas. Por eso esta serie habla a la necesidad de desarrollar lideres como un equipo.MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVO Si estas en el área de San Diego, CA le hacemos una invitación a nuestras capacitaciones mensuales de liderazgo en vivo. Nuestro próximo evento es el 27 de abril, 2026 en Centro Familiar Cristiano, 5901 Rancho Hills Drive. Si no estas en el área, nos puedes ver en línea y en vivo desde nuestra página oficial.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Send us Fan MailLey 13 La ley de la identidad"Los valores compartidos definen al equipo"Serie: Las 17 leyes incuestionables del trabajo en equipoEl Dr. Abel Ledezma nos trae enseñanzas para que usted las adopte para así poder capacitar a su equipo. Aún cuando el líder crecía en su area, se entendió que ningún líder puede hacer todo a solas. Por eso esta serie habla a la necesidad de desarrollar lideres como un equipo.MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVO Si estas en el área de San Diego, CA le hacemos una invitación a nuestras capacitaciones mensuales de liderazgo en vivo. Nuestro próximo evento es el 27 de abril, 2026 en Centro Familiar Cristiano, 5901 Rancho Hills Drive. Si no estas en el área, nos puedes ver en línea y en vivo desde nuestra página oficial.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Send us Fan MailEp. 160 La ley de la banca"Los grandes equipos tienen mucha fuerza colectiva"Serie: Las 17 leyes incuestionables del trabajo en equipoEl Dr. Abel Ledezma nos trae enseñanzas para que usted las adopte para así poder capacitar a su equipo. Aún cuando el líder crecía en su area, se entendió que ningún líder puede hacer todo a solas. Por eso esta serie habla a la necesidad de desarrollar lideres como un equipo.MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVORegresamos con nuestras conferencias mensuales de liderazgo el 27 de abril 2026 con la serie titulada: Desarrollando líderes altamente efectivos.Conferencias son gratuitas, marca su calendario te esperamos ver en persona o en linea.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Send us Fan MailEpisodio 159, La ley del marcador“El equipo  puede hacer ajustes cuando sabe en donde esta parado.”MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVO Si estas en el área de San Diego, CA le hacemos una invitación a nuestras capacitaciones mensuales de liderazgo en vivo. Nuestro próximo evento es el 23 de marzo, 2026 y el día 27 de abril en Centro Familiar Cristiano, 5901 Rancho Hills Drive. Si no estas en el área, nos puedes ver en línea y en vivo desde nuestra página oficial.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Get "Carb Slut" and "Petty and Scientifically Literate" merch here!Check out our website for references, transcripts, and more!Diet culture is really good at one thing: finding the places people go to belong, and nesting inside them. This episode follows that instinct back to one of its oldest sources, the American evangelical church. Zoë and Kylee are joined by Leslie Schilling, RDN, CSSD, sports dietitian, eating disorder specialist, and author of Feed Yourself, to trace how food, bodies, and spiritual worthiness got so tangled together, and what it costs the people caught inside that tangle. From Pope Gregory's taxonomy of gluttony in the sixth century to Rick Warren's Daniel Plan weigh-ins, "your body is a temple" taken wildly out of context, and why eating disorders tied to religious identity are among the hardest to treat. You don't have to have ever set foot in a church to have received this transmission.Support Your Diet Sucks on Patreon for bonus episodes, weekly threads, recipes, and AMA access: patreon.com/yourdietsucks.This episode is brought to you by rabbit — use code YDSMARCH10 for 10% off at rabbit.com. Osmia Skincare — code YDS20 for 20% off at osmiaskincare.com. Tailwind Nutrition — code YOURDIET20 for 20% off at tailwindnutrition.com. And Microcosm Coaching — book a free consultation at microcosm-coaching.com.

Send us Fan MailEpisodio 158, La ley del precio“El equipo no logra alcanzar su potencial cuando falla en pagar el precio.”INSTAGRAM:@liderazgo_enfocado@drabelledezmaSerie: Las 17 leyes incuestionables del trabajo en equipoEl Dr. Abel Ledezma nos trae enseñanzas para que usted las adopte para así poder capacitar a su equipo. Aún cuando el líder crecía en su area, se entendió que ningún líder puede hacer todo a solas. Por eso esta serie habla a la necesidad de desarrollar lideres como un equipo.MAS RECIENTE LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVO Si estas en el área de San Diego, CA le hacemos una invitación a nuestras capacitaciones mensuales de liderazgo en vivo. Nuestro próximo evento es el 23 de marzo, 2026 en Centro Familiar Cristiano, 5901 Rancho Hills Drive. Si no estas en el área, nos puedes ver en línea y en vivo desde nuestra página oficial.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.Support the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita:https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

Send a textLas 17 leyes incuestionables del trabajo en equipoLey 9: La ley de la confiabilidad"Cuando de contar se trata, los compañeros de equipo deben poder contar con los demás."Siguenos:INSTAGRAM:@liderazgo_enfocado@drabelledezmaLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVO Si estas en la area de San Diego, CA le hacemos una invitación a nuestras capacitaciones mensuales de liderazgo en vivo. Esta año el Dr. Abel Ledezma estará enseñando la serie: "Desarrollando lideres altamente efectivos". Nuestro proximo evento es el 23 de marzo, 2026 en la iglesia Centro Familiar Cristiano, 5901 Rancho Hills Drive. Si no estas en la area, nos puedes ver en linea y en vivo desde nuestra pagina oficial. Entrada gratuita, puertas abren a las 6:30PM (PST)Serie: Las 17 leyes incuestionables del trabajo en equipoEl Dr. Abel Ledezma nos trae enseñanzas para que usted las adopte para así poder capacitar a su equipo. Aún cuando el líder crecía en su area, se entendió que ningún líder puede hacer todo a solas. Por eso esta serie habla a la necesidad de desarrollar lideres como un equipo.LE CAMPUS¡Únete al equipo!  Si estas interesado en ser anfitrión en su ciudad para las conferencia mensuales 2026, envíanos un mensaje.NUEVO LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su  aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanSupport the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita: https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

End-time Bible prophecy is the most debated topic among Christians in all of scripture. Healthy debate is good, but a dangerous, unbiblical precedent is being set. End-time Bible prophecy is being attacked from within the church by supposed shepherds. Let's look at the deception that Jesus and the apostles warned us would come. Show Notes:All audio clips and book quotes are unaltered and provided for further research.Books: The Purpose Driven Life: By Rick WarrenUnraptured - How End-Time Theology Gets It Wrong: By Zack HuntVideo footage of Mark Driscoll sourced from YouTube. The message was given at Mars Hill Church.Book by A.W. Tozer - Preparing for Jesus' ReturnText us for prayer, comments, or ministry questions.Connect with us at: concerningthetimes.com

Send a text¡Estreno de temporada 5!Hemos regresado listos para avanzar su potencial en la area de liderazgo. Episodio 156 contiene a Hanna, Dr. Ledezma y a empresario local de San Diego, CA; Jorge Amezcua. El Dr. Amezcua nos presenta su mas reciente libro "Despertando al gigante dormido de la Iglesia".Para más información sobre el Dr. Jorge Amezcua, visita estas enlaces:Instagram y Threads: @jorgeamezcua111http://www.phlbasca.comSiguenos:INSTAGRAM:@liderazgo_enfocado@drabelledezmaLIDERAZGO ENFOCADO EN VIVO Si estas en la area de San Diego, CA le hacemos una invitación a nuestras capacitaciones mensuales de liderazgo en vivo. Esta año el Dr. Abel Ledezma estará enseñando la serie: "Desarrollando lideres altamente efectivos". Nuestro proximo evento es el 23 de febrero, 2026 en la iglesia Centro Familiar Cristiano, 5901 Rancho Hills Drive. Si no estas en la area, nos puedes ver en linea y en vivo desde nuestra pagina oficial. Entrada gratuita, puertas abren a las 6:30PM (PST)NUEVO LIBRO: “10 Principios que transforman” 10 Principios que transforman nos explica, en una forma sencilla y contundente, los beneficios de poner en práctica los diez principios que Dios le ordenó a Moisés que escribiera, y de los resultados que su  aplicación tiene no solo en nuestra vida, sino en la de aquellos a los que amamos y que nos rodean. Son principios dados por Dios para guiarnos en un mundo que cada vez más los ha dejado de lado.https://www.liderazgoenfocado.com/product-page/10-principios-que-transformanSupport the showPara más información de Liderazgo Enfocado o el Dr. Abel Ledezma visita: https://www.liderazgoenfocado.comhttps://www.youtube.com/c/LiderazgoEnfocado

To get a copy of our new book "Embracing the Truth" or to have TS Wright speak at your event or conference or if you simply want spiritual or life coaching or just a consultation visit:www.tswrightspeaks.comVisit our website to learn more about The God Centered Concept. The God Centered Concept is designed to bring real discipleship and spreading the Gospel to help spark the Great Harvest, a revival in this generation.www.godcenteredconcept.comKingdom Cross Roads Podcast is a part of The God Centered Concept.Title: From Football Fields to Faith: Coach Kirk Benson's Journey of Discipleship and TransformationIntroduction: In a world where personal journeys often intertwine with purpose, Coach Kirk Benson's story stands out as a powerful testament to the impact of faith and mentorship. From his beginnings as a college athlete to becoming a missionary and coach, Kirk's life is a narrative of transformation through discipleship and community engagement.Main Content:1. The Beginning of a Journey Coach Kirk Benson's journey started at Henderson State University, where he was introduced to a Bible study by one of his coaches. Initially skeptical about faith, Kirk was motivated to attend by the promise of good food and the company of college girls. This humorous yet relatable start unveils the authentic, often unexpected ways God can draw us into a deeper relationship.2. The Wrestling of Faith As Kirk began attending these Bible studies, he faced a significant internal struggle. He candidly shared that for six months, he felt burdened, akin to carrying a heavy sack, as he wrestled with his understanding of sin and faith. His breakthrough came when he read Rick Warren's book, "The Purpose Driven Life," which challenged his self-centered outlook. This pivotal moment opened his eyes to a new perspective: life is not about him, but about God.3. The Transformation After experiencing a profound spiritual awakening, Kirk repented and accepted Jesus Christ, marking the beginning of his journey as a new creation in Christ. This transformation spurred him to share his faith with teammates and get involved in campus ministry, illustrating how genuine faith can ignite a passion for evangelism.4. Discipleship as a Lifelong Theme Throughout Kirk's life, the theme of discipleship has remained central. He emphasizes the importance of being in community, sharing life experiences, and witnessing the Holy Spirit at work. This theme carried over as he and his wife moved overseas, where they engaged with various communities through athletics and coaching. Kirk's experiences highlight how discipleship can occur in diverse contexts, bridging cultural and linguistic gaps.5. Impacting Lives Abroad Kirk's work overseas wasn't just about coaching; it was about building relationships and sharing the Gospel. He recounts how he used language learning as a tool for ministry, meeting regularly with individuals interested in exploring faith. His approach was rooted in vulnerability and authenticity, creating an environment where others felt comfortable discussing their spiritual journeys. One significant story included a young man who, after months of exploration, accepted Christ and was baptized, marking a notable moment in a region with a complex history of faith.Conclusion: Coach Kirk Benson's journey underscores the profound impact of discipleship and community on personal transformation. From a skeptical college athlete to a devoted missionary, Kirk's life illustrates that meaningful connections and genuine faith can lead to significant change, not only in one's own life...

John continues his conversation with Dr. Nelva Lee. In this episode they talk about the importance of pain and purpose in life, why avoiding hard moments can keep you stuck, learning from mistakes, and much more! In Part 1, they discussed the traditional model of public education and the need for new approaches to prepare the kids for real life or careers. Listen to this episode to learn more: [00:00] - Why pain is not something to fear [05:29] - The two most important days of your life [06:50] - How faith guides Dr. Nelva's decisions in leadership roles [11:32] - Respecting your audience while staying true to your beliefs [14:11] - Dr. Nelva's definition of success [14:57] - #1 daily habit [15:56] - Traits of a great leader [17:49] - Every person you meet can teach you something [21:00] - Value of learning from mistakes and failing fast [24:47] - Legacy Dr. Nelva wants to leave behind [25:32] - How she invests in her growth and marriage [27:26] - A message for husbands and wives [29:43] - Clear communication in marriage [30:32] - Best way to reach out to Dr. Nelva [31:04] - Supporting Dr. Nelva's candidacy [33:49] - Book recommendations [34:51] - Wrap-up NOTABLE QUOTES: "I have learned over the years that pain is not something I should be afraid of. I should be afraid when I don't experience pain." "If you do it right, you don't learn anything. So you have to fail, which means you tried something new, didn't do it right, and now you have the opportunity to learn. It's not a guarantee that you will, it just means the opportunity is there." "Embrace the fact that you will have failures. You will make mistakes. You just need to learn from them, turn them into learning opportunities, and pivot. If you're able to do that, you're going to be ahead of so many others." "First, lead yourself. Then you can lead others." "Our habits determine our behavior, and our behavior determines the level of influence that we will have." "We were all born as individuals. We were all born originals. We shouldn't die copies." "If you're not experiencing enough adversity, it's probably because you're just following a pre-decided path that may or may not be your path." "Gentlemen, date night is yours. You own it. You're in charge of it. Her job is to show up and look beautiful." "Ladies, if your husband is not the romantic type, it's okay to give him tips, and it's okay to help him plan it." BOOKS MENTIONED: Purpose Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For? by Rick Warren (https://a.co/d/hseine4) The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by R. Stephen Covey (https://a.co/d/eChA52b) Left Behind Series by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins (https://a.co/d/a3jw43B) The Bible (https://a.co/d/59f7I7q) USEFUL RESOURCES: https://www.drnelvalee.com/ https://www.instagram.com/dr.nelvalee/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-nelva-lee-a4a885314/ https://www.facebook.com/TBWGTR https://www.youtube.com/@DrNelvaLee/videos Stay and Fight: The Wise Woman Builds Her House (https://a.co/d/aE70YCB) Be the Superhero of Your Story (https://a.co/d/bzutXhk) A Hope and a Future: The Case for Fostering to Adopt (https://a.co/d/j87kVT8) CONNECT WITH JOHN Website - https://iamjohnhulen.com    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhulen Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/johnhulen    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/johnhulen    X - https://x.com/johnhulen    YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLX_NchE8lisC4NL2GciIWA    EPISODE CREDITS Intro and Outro music provided by Jeff Scheetz - https://jeffscheetz.com/ 

Leave an Amazon Rating or Review for my New York Times Bestselling book, Make Money Easy!Check out the full episode: https://greatness.lnk.to/1860"Happiness is a moral obligation. There was nowhere in my childhood that happiness was a moral obligation. It was more about long suffering." - Dr. Daniel AmenDr. Daniel Amen grew up Catholic, an altar boy taught that faith meant long suffering, not happiness. He was scared of God more than he was connected to Him. Then a cute Army company clerk asked him to take her to church, which turned out to be a wild Pentecostal healing service with speaking in tongues and dancing. That unexpected detour led him to Teen Challenge, working with drug addicts who found staggering success rates when they stopped making recovery about themselves and started making it about their relationship with God. Years later, after becoming one of the world's leading brain scientists, he walked into his own church past tables of donuts being sold to fund ministry. He got angry. Really angry. So he prayed what felt like the stupidest prayer of his life: that God would use him to change the food culture at churches. Two weeks later, Rick Warren, pastor of one of the largest churches in the world, called him out of nowhere and said, "I'm fat. My church is fat. Will you help me?" Fifteen thousand people signed up the first week. They lost a quarter of a million pounds the first year.The conversation reveals something most people don't know: there's hard science behind why faith works. Researchers at Duke have documented that people who attend religious services regularly get better faster when they're sick. They have lower rates of mental health issues. It's not just the community, though that helps. It's the belief itself. Believing you're here for a purpose, that your body is sacred, that you're wonderfully made. Those beliefs create actual neurotransmitter benefits in your brain. Dr. Amen's purpose is to make a dent in the universe by getting people to love and care for their brains, and he's discovered that faith and brain health aren't separate paths. Your health will reflect the health of your ten closest friends. You get better together or you get sick together. This is a conversation about finding purpose in what you thought was your dumbest moment, about how anger at church donuts can become a movement, and about why happiness isn't just a nice idea but a moral obligation.Sign up for the Greatness newsletter: http://www.greatness.com/newsletter Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, Dinesh introduces his upcoming new film “The Dragon’s Prophecy” and plays the trailer. Bill Randall, a retired veteran who specialized in meteorology, joins Dinesh to discuss the 20th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina. Dinesh reviews Rick Warren’s commentary on Dinesh’s own book, “Life After Death: The Evidence.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.