Podcast appearances and mentions of johnny gomez

Derek Ciapala, Michael Stewart II, Norm Hightower, and Johnny Gomez break down the first round of the 2025 NFL Draft, including the Los Angeles Rams' big trade to get a 2026 first round pick.PrizePicks - Download the app today and use code RAMSTALK to get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup!

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez break down the Los Angeles Rams' season-ending 28-22 at the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday. PrizePicks - Download the app today and use code RAMSTALK to get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Derek Ciapala, Tommy Avants and Johnny Gomez break down the Los Angeles Rams' 24-18 loss at the Chicago Bears. Download the PrizePicks app today and use code RAMS TALK RADIO and get $50 instantly when you play $5! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez welcome the Bear Report's Zack Pearson to preview the Los Angeles Rams' Week 4 matchup with the improved Chicago Bears. Download the PrizePicks app today and use code RAMS TALK RADIO and get $50 instantly when you play $5! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez discuss the recent trade ideas proposed by the Bleacher Report relating to Davante Adams. Go to prizepicks.com and use code RamsTalk for a $100 Deposit match Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez analyze the 2024 Los Angeles Rams schedule. Rams Talk Radio PrizePicks Promo: https://www.prizepicks.com/podcast?&utm_source=Podcast&utm_medium=PodcastAds&utm_campaign=100depositmatch&utm_content=RamsTalkRadio&utm_term=RAMSTALK?invite_code=RAMSTALK Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Derek Ciapala, Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez break down an active second night of the 2024 NFL Draft for the Los Angeles Rams. Rams Talk Radio PrizePicks Promo: https://www.prizepicks.com/podcast?&utm_source=Podcast&utm_medium=PodcastAds&utm_campaign=100depositmatch&utm_content=RamsTalkRadio&utm_term=RAMSTALK?invite_code=RAMSTALK Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

3/14/2024 Mike and cohost, award-winning journalist Brooke Binkowski welcomed Radio and TV announcer Jim Thornton to ConversationsRadio Episode 167! Jim is the announcer on Wheel of Fortune! Jim Thornton is a radio and television announcer, news anchor and voiceover actor. Based in Los Angeles, Jim is known is best known as the announcer on “America's Game” Wheel of Fortune. Originally from Huntington, West Virginia, Jim landed in LA in 1984 at just 19. One year later, he started his broadcasting career. For those who are in the LA area, Jim was heard on a number of radio stations - including KNX 1070 as an anchor and traffic reporter. In 2010, following the passing of long-time Wheel of Fortune announcer Charlie O'Donnell, Thornton auditioned and was chosen as the new announcer. Jim still pinches himself and loves working on the iconic game show. He also appears on 'Celebrity Wheel of Fortune and was a sub announcer on 'The Price is Right' with Bob Barker. As a voiceover artist, Thornton provided the voice of Johnny Gomez in 'Celebrity Deathmatch' and the announcer in 'The Cleveland Show.' He has also appeared in video games, where he provided additional voiceover work for 'Hitman: Blood Money' and as a DJ in 'Mafia II.' You can hear Jim in animated features ‘Monster's Inc' and ‘WALL-E' as well. Enjoy the Podcast        

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez look at the day's news, including the Los Angeles Rams signing Darious Williams and tendering Alaric Jackson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez break down the Los Angeles Rams' 28-20 victory over Washington. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez discuss the Rams decision to sign Carson Wentz and the bizarre timing of the move. They also touch on the deflating loss in Green Bay and examine options for the Rams in the 2024 NFL Draft. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez break down the Los Angeles Rams' 26-9 victory over the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Derek Ciapala and Tommy Avants look at the Los Angeles Rams' Week 4 visit to Indianapolis. Plus, Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez give their DFS Prize Picks for the week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez recap the Los Angeles Rams' 30-23 loss and address the Cam Akers situation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez preview the Los Angeles Rams' Week 1 matchup at Seattle and discuss the week's daily fantasy picks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Prepare for an uplifting and heartfelt episode on the Legacy United Podcast featuring Johnny Gomez, a valued member of our Content Committee.

Derek Ciapala, Tommy Avants, and Johnny Gomez break down the Los Angeles Rams' second round pick in the 2023 NFL Draft. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez discuss the Los Angeles Rams' inaction at the trade deadline, the team's issues and the Cam Akers situation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Derek Ciapala, Johnny Gomez, Michael Stewart and Steve Rebeiro react to the Los Angeles Rams' 23-20 victory over the Cincinnati Bengals in Super Bowl LVI. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Derek Ciapala, Steve Rebeiro, Johnny Gomez, Tommy Avants and former Los Angeles Rams defensive back Michael Stewart break down the team's matchup with the Cincinnati Bengals and give their final predictions for the game. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Charli Prangley is the Creative Director at ConvertKit. Charli has a bachelor's degree in design, with an emphasis on visual communication, from Massey University. Before working at ConvertKit, Charli worked as a designer for companies such as Mitsubishi Electric, Xero, and her own Liner Note Kids.Born in New Zealand, Charli now lives in Valencia, Spain. She is passionate about helping creatives improve their craft and process, as well as working on her own side projects. When she's not working at ConvertKit, Charli creates weekly content on her YouTube channel and podcast, Design Life, where she shares insights about working as a professional designer, and gives tutorials and advice on design tools and concepts.In this episode, you'll learn: How to balance your side hustle with a full-time job How Charli turns curiosities into money-makers Why newsletter creators need a YouTube presence Charli's tips for getting more YouTube subscribers Links & Resources ConvertKit Basecamp Webflow Johnnie Gomez Pallet Sahil Bloom The Bloomboard Jessica Hische Charli's Links Follow Charli on Twitter: @charliprangley Watch Charli on YouTube Design Life Podcast on Twitter: @DesignLifeFM Design Life Podcast website Charli's website Episode TranscriptCharli: [00:00:00]I want to show people the real life of a professional designer; the projects that I work on, how I work on them, how I make decisions, the challenges that I run into along the way. That's the kind of thing that I'm looking to share. And then that sort of lens frames all my content. Not just on YouTube; it's also the newsletter, the book, anything I tweet, as well.It sort of all comes from this.Nathan: [00:00:31]In this episode I talk to Charli Prangley. Charli is the Creative Director at ConvertKit. She and I have actually worked together for four-and-a-half years, and during that time, well, actually before she joined ConvertKit, she'd built a popular YouTube channel about design—specifically marketing design.She's at over 200 or right about 200,000 subscribers on YouTube, which incredible.She's got all kinds of projects.In this episode, we dive into things about design. She and I are both designers, so we love those topics.We talk about side hustles, and how you balance that with a full-time job. Her career, moving up the ladder, becoming Creative Director at ConvertKit, and all the other things she wants to create.What gives her energy; what doesn't.We talk about sharing things about money online, and how that can be a tough topic.She shares her income, she does videos about salary and making income from side hustles, so we talk about those details, and then we talk about as a newsletter creator, is YouTube something that you want to pursue?And tips and tricks and ideas for that.Anyway, I'll get out of the way, and we'll dive into the episode.Charli, thanks for joining me:Charli: [00:01:42]Yeah. Thanks having me. I'm excited—honored to be on the Nathan Berry show.Nathan: [00:01:47]That's right. I'm glad it gets that kind of enthusiasm.Is only because we've worked together for so long?Charli: [00:01:59]Maybe, I don't know, honestly, actually I'd probably more excited to be on if we hadn't worked together for so long.Nathan: [00:02:04]That's right. You're actually like, “Fine, fine. I'll come on your podcast. But to be clear, I'm doing it during works hours, and you're paying for this.”Charli: [00:02:12]Yeah. This is a favor to you.Nathan: [00:02:14]Yeah. Whereas separately, because maybe if we hadn't spent the last four years working together, then, then you'd actually really want to do it.All right. Well, maybe let's start there because we have spent the last four years working together, four-and-a-half.Charli: [00:02:33]Yeah.Nathan: [00:02:33]And yeah. So coming, approaching five this fall. The first thing that I want to ask you about is how you think about all the different things that you're doing as a creator.As I mentioned in the intro you've got, you know, the YouTube channel, you have a podcast, you have a newsletter and everything else.And I, I just love to hear how you think about the intersection of those things. And then we can get into the intersection of a full-time role, and all the full-time creator things.So what's the, like Charli's creative landscape?Charli: [00:03:06]Ooh, I like that. I would say that I'm aiming to make the kind of content that would have helped out, you know, like the me from two years ago.And that's kind of been my approach the whole time through. So when I started, maybe I was making stuff more for beginners, and every now and then I will still, but I'm trying to like level up my audience as well as I level up in my career.And I love the term creator. I feel like it's definitely the best way to describe me because I'm not just a YouTuber. I'm not just a podcaster, or just a blogger, or a writer, or whatever.I do all the things like wherever I feel drawn to create in whichever method I feel like will best express the thing that I'm trying to teach or share is what I lean into.Nathan: [00:03:49]Yeah. that makes sense. Uh that's how I feel, like, you can't put me in a box.Charli: [00:03:54]Yeah, no. How dare you.Nathan: [00:03:55]The only box that I'm willing to accept is a giant all-encompassing freeform box of creator.Charli: [00:04:01]That molds, and like, changes shape as you do. Yeah.Nathan: [00:04:04]Yeah, exactly.Okay. So you have all of these things. Maybe your most recent thing that I want to talk about is Inside Marketing or Inside Marketing Design is that marketing would be an entirely thing.We're talking Inside Marketing and Design. I'd love to hear first, why you wanted to start that, and maybe the seed, the direction a little bit.I've heard you talk about like design being so focused. People either talk like graphic design, or they talk product design, you know. So, we're like into user experience, user interface.I'm curious how marketing design fits into that and your, your desires there?Charli: [00:04:42]Yeah. So, honestly Inside Marketing Design started as much with my content does, which is, I wish this existed. It doesn't exist. Maybe I'll be the one to make it.I found myself just like really wanting to hear about how other companies set up their marketing design teams, how their marketing designers get work done.And when you searched around for like, I dunno, medium articles and things like that, it's all about product design. It's all about product design teams, UX design teams, and how they work with engineers.And I'm like, what about the marketing design side of things? It's super important, especially in tech where most marketing design happens, most marketing, sorry, happens online and you need the digital design to make that happen.A brand is super important. Building up a company to, you know, a high level. And I just think it's completely underappreciated marketing design in the industry.And so it's like my personal mission to raise up the profile of marketing design eyes wider in the design industry and tech industry. And yeah, Inside Marketing Design interview show, that was completely self-indulgent where I got on calls with designers who work at other tech companies and learned about how they did that.Nathan: [00:05:51]I feel like the best podcasts and newsletters and things like that are completely self-indulgent they come from this natural curiosity, like that's where this show comes from. It's just like, these are the people that I want to talk to. And there'll be more likely to say yes to talk to me if it's for a podcast, you know, because otherwise like you end up in the, can I pick your brain thing?And that's like, Nope, no, no, no, no. Like bat goes in a very special bucket of, of emails. But if you're like, can I have you on your podcast? You're asking 90% of the same thing, you know, and the best questions are the ones where I'm like, I genuinely want to know this.Charli: [00:06:28]Totally. Yeah, exactly. That's definitely the approach I take to it. and since then, I've been, I've been surprised by the response that the number of people who are also interested in this very specific niche thing I was interested in as well, you know, it definitely has a way smaller audience than if it was perhaps a product design podcast or a UX design podcast, but that's kind of the point, right?Is I want to make content for this niche, this very underserved, I believe niche in particular.Nathan: [00:06:55]What's interesting is that I feel like, the market exists. Like, I'll be, obviously there's lots of marketing designers, right? Cause all going to the like every time Stripe comes out with a feature most beautiful page ever, you know, and all of this, right. we look at, even just within the Nisha software, like all of the design is so beautiful today compared to what it was even five years ago.And so obviously there's marketing designers everywhere. It's just that the content hasn't caught up with that, for whatever I feel like the UX designers and, and the freelancers have been so much more prolific in like content of this is how I run my business and this is how we structure our teams.And so it feels to me like the market. It's not that the market is small. It's that? it's just not established yet. There's not big of a community,Charli: [00:07:49]Yep. Totally. And there's not even one specific term, like even marketing design, some companies would call it brand design. Some would call it just web design, the creative team. I don't know. There's lots of different terms for it. So yeah, I guess I'm also trying to like unify us all under this marketing design umbrella as well, because it is it's design that helps market product or service.Nathan: [00:08:10]Yeah, totally. I, it takes someone to like, Hey. this is the term that we're all using. Just gives you're wondering, that, you know what you mean is marketing design. who are some people that you've had on the podcast that are particular companies that you've interviewed where you're like, we're really excited to dive in and learn what they were doing.Charli: [00:08:31]Yeah. So I was really excited to have it start out from base camp on the first season, back when he was still at base camp. and I don't know, it was just really interesting to learn about how they, how they do things. same with Webflow had Johnny Gomez from workflow on I've been a big fan of workflow for a very long time.So, yeah, digging in and hearing more about the day-to-day because it's one thing to just look at a company's marketing site or their marketing materials. And it's another to hear about the process that went into producing it. And like, where does this designer sit within the org structure of the company?How do they do things? So yeah, we go into lots of nerdy details like that, and it's been fun. I feel like I've learned from, you know, doing the episodes myself. Like, one thing that Johnny actually brought up is that when he's designing sites for web. He would write the copy for them as well. Like he doesn't use lorem ipsum or fill a copy.He'll like write real copy. And I would usually write like, sort of like a placeholder copy that indicated what I wanted to say. Like, it would be like headline about this. but since then, since that interview with Johnny, I've leaned in more to like, okay, let me just try it. Let me just try, write a headline.And you know, the writer can come in and fix it up later if they want to. But yeah, there's been lots of cool little, little learnings that have helped me in my process and yeah, I hope has helped the audience too.Nathan: [00:09:47]That's interesting. I feel like people do this with every skill that they're not, that they don't feel confident in. I was going to say competent, but often they're competent in skills that they don't actually like competent and confident. you know, don't always co-exist. And so I think that with design there's a lot of people who are like, oh, that's design.I can't like, I'm not a designer. I can't touch it. And you know, I'm always trying to use tools. Like pick-me-up like gradually drop people in and be like, oh, but what if you tried? And you know, and like, yeah, maybe it looks terrible, but here's this process. And I feel like copywriting is one of those things where people are like, I don't know how to do that.I'm not a copywriter. I'm, I'm a designer. I'm whatever else. And it's like, okay, but if you had to, what would this headline say? Oh, would probably say something like. Okay. Like, that's probably 70% there, you know? And then like if you had to write a better one, what would it say, oh, maybe it'd be this, you know?And, and that being able to jump in, like, you'll find often that you're competent, even before you're confident in those skills.So, you've got the podcast. Well, actually really quick. You said something about the podcast that you said, you mentioned seasons. how do you think about, doing in seasons and how does that fit into like your workflow,Charli: [00:11:06]Yeah, I wanted to do it in seasons because this is actually my second podcast. I have one called design life that I've been running with a co-host for years. And that is not one will seasons. It's sort of like an every week thing. Although we are on a break at the moment, and INathan: [00:11:19]Like a Ross and Rachel style break or what kind of break.Charli: [00:11:22]Uh we're on like a summer break.Nathan: [00:11:24]Okay. Okay. So everyone knows you're on break. It's not you think you're on a break and your cohost doesn't you areCharli: [00:11:31]Yeah, exactly.Nathan: [00:11:33]I've been watching friends lately. Can't help it .Charli: [00:11:36]So, I knew that I wanted to do Inside Marketing Design and seasons because of just how much work it is to do podcasts constantly. I thought I could package, like have my goal was 10 to 12 interviews. To correlate them into a season and also do a wrap up episode at the end of the season, just covering some of the things that I learned.Some highlights, things like that to tie a little bow on it. And, yeah, I'm starting the prep work for season two right now. my goal is to do one season a year of yeah. 10 to 12 episodes eachNathan: [00:12:07]Nice. What I like about that is you're able to be deliberate about what you're committing to. You can start it when you actually have like energy and momentum towards Um and then it's also a fixed commitment.Charli: [00:12:22]YesNathan: [00:12:22]Saying, I don't know what the analogy is. Like you're not even hopping on the treadmill or if you are here, like this is a five mile brightener, this is a three mile run or whatever.Right. And then you're like, and then I'm going to hop off instead of being like, Hey, I'm gonna get on this treadmill and I'm going to do it until I get burnt out and regret doing it. And then I'll quit about three months after that.Charli: [00:12:42]Yup. Yup, exactly that. And I would compare it more to a marathon than a five mile run, but, you know, just get technicalNathan: [00:12:49]Some of us are more ambitious than So what's the, like, going back to the creator landscape, in your world, you've got the podcast. It seems like that is the main driver, the main source of new content, for, Inside Marketing Design. But you've also got a newsletter, a job board and then a book coming.So how do you think about the other other aspects?Charli: [00:13:13]Yeah. So, the newsletter I started, honestly, I feel like it was from something that I'd seen you write, talking like building up your authority on, it was probably in authority actually. Now that I think about it, building up your authority on a topic before you're going to release, you know, paid product about it.And so I thought, well, this would be a really great way for me to generate like a warm audience of people who interested in marketing design. If I start a marketing design newsletter, so it's called the marketing design dispatch and it goes out on Mondays and. It's sometimes it's like a little essay.Maybe it's like even a piece of writing that I've been doing for the book that I'm writing about marketing design, or maybe it's a deep dive into analyzing a new marketing website that I've seen a rebrand, something like that, as well as sharing content that has been useful for me or that I've seen around the internet.And yeah, I've had a good response to it so far. Cause I, I started just sending it out to my existing list and yeah, I gave people the option to opt out of getting it if they didn't want to. And maybe like a couple hundred people did that, but the most, the majority of my list is stayed around for it, which has been cool.Nathan: [00:14:19]Yeah. So how, how big is that list? And then where did that existing list come from?Charli: [00:14:24]Hmm. So the current list is 18,000 subscribers. I just did a big cold subscriber call the other day. up to like 24,000. And so you're my engagement graph and ConvertKit's looking nice and green at the moment. yeah, and the majority of my lists previously had come from one, I have this really popular YouTube video about DIY screen printing.And so people sign up to my list to get a free opt-in that has like a PDF written with the instructions. So those are the ones that, you know, probably went cult. Let's be honest, but I also have a couple of other opt-ins about creating a design system for marketing website. How to advocate for yourself as a designer, self promotion as a designer, just a few sort of like things of credit along the way, as well as just a general sign up on my website.So yeah, most people are there because they're interested in my content, I guess. yeah.Nathan: [00:15:15]And so probably a lot of that is coming from either Twitter. but the bulk of it being from YouTube. Is that right?Charli: [00:15:23]A lot from YouTube, also a lot from my own website and from Twitter, I would say. Yeah,Nathan: [00:15:28]Okay. So you've got the newsletter there and then this is actually something that I was really curious about, like why launch a job board that feels like another, you're already juggling a bunch of LikeCharli: [00:15:39]Great point.Nathan: [00:15:40]how does that fit in.Charli: [00:15:41]Yes. So the job board came about, honestly, because of the platform that I have it on at school palette, and it's a way that communities can create a job board to advertise roles to their community. So it's quite like create a focus and it's meant to be heavily curated. So it's not like you come to my board and you find any type of design role.It's like a job board specifically for marketing design and brand design roles. Yeah, it's my goal to have it be the place that if you're looking for that type of role, you can search on here. And if you're hiring for it, you come post on my job board because you know that I'm going to send it out to my audience of people who are interested in this topic.And like, it just feels like a good fit.Nathan: [00:16:22]Right.Charli: [00:16:23]Pretty low lift so far, honestly. So that's another reason why I took it on because it wasn't like I had to make the site myself or anything. Pallet has the system and, they manage the payments for the job postings and things like that. I just go in when one gets submitted and see if I want to approve it and it gets posted.Nathan: [00:16:40]Nice. Yeah, no Southern people. There's a creator who I hope to have on the podcast soon named Sahil bloom, who has. Couple of hundred thousand followers on Twitter, a popular newsletter and all of that. And he just locked, launched a board called bloom boards, think is a great, I chuckled, you know?And so it's just interesting as a business model, because right, when you have this audience of tens of thousands or, or even more, that's really what you're, you're selling access to. And it's interesting, you know, like I'm used to selling products to individual creators where $50 or a hundred dollars or $200 is enough money that people are thinking hard about it.But what's interesting about it. A job board is that especially when the tech world, where someone is like, Hey, can you help me find this person that I'm somewhere between a hundred and $200,000 a year? And so, like, I assume you're, I don't know what your experience is, but the willingness to pay for that product is fairly high and they're really paying for access to your 18,000 subscriber newsletter.Charli: [00:17:44]Yeah. exactly. And the, I also have a tier on the job board where you can choose to pay, like a much higher fee. And I mentioned it in a YouTube video as well, that goes out to my audience of like 200,000 on there. And so it like, yeah. Smart idea. No, one's taken me up on that option yet, but I hope in time they will.Nathan: [00:18:02]Well, if nothing else, it's there for like package it, like positioning in there of like, well, maybe we would dive in what are the price points right now at the time ofCharli: [00:18:10]Oh, shoot. I can't remember off the top of my head. let me look it upNathan: [00:18:15]Google it either. That's tooCharli: [00:18:17]I'm just going to go to my own job board. How about that? So I think it's, I think it's 300 for an initial, like just a plain posting, 500 for featured, which then has like a, you know, a special section of my newsletter as well.And then I believe I priced it at like 1200 for the one that includes the YouTube shout out, which is like in line with what I charge YouTube sponsors is actually a lot cheaper than what I showed you, shoot responses, but, you know, I figure it's a good fit and it's doing service to my community to be promoting it well.So,Nathan: [00:18:46]Yeah. that makes sense. Okay. So what was the research that you did going into, like, I imagine it was more than like, oh, palette looks interesting. Great. Let's add this monetization method.What went in as you, as you were seeing of like, okay, I have this community and a job board is the way that I want to monetize it because I saw these people do it, or I you knowCharli: [00:19:09]That was the reason why. Yeah. it was mostly my friend , who was my co-host on the design life podcast. She had started one with palette and I saw her doing, and I was like, oh, this looks interesting. Like, tell me more about this. and she said that pellet had approached her and explained the system.So yeah, I reached out to them, got on a call with them. They're super like new as a startup basically. And so, you know, we're in, on, on the ground floor and helping them along the way with building features and, you know, suggesting what to build that sort of thing in their slack group. yeah. And I just decided this makes more sense than trying to build a, maintain a website of my own because they are doing that work.And, you know, as someone who creates on the side of a full-time job, leading a team at ConvertKit, I, you know, want to have this be minimal effort on my part get it out there. So it just made sense.Nathan: [00:19:58]So you're not very far into this, right? OrCharli: [00:20:00]No, it was brand new. I've only had like one person pay to post so far. It's veryNathan: [00:20:04]Yeah, we're just getting started. And so maybe this is a better question for like some point in the future, but like, if someone was coming to you and saying like, okay, I have a newsletter of 10 or 20,000 subscribers is like, should I consider a job board as well? Like as a monetization method, what, what would your, perspective be at this.Charli: [00:20:26]Right. Yeah. I think that is a good question, but I can definitely answer now. I would say if you could, if your niche for your newsletter is super cool. And there's like a certain type of people who read it or that you're speaking to when you write it, it could make sense to have a job board. there was some initial effort for me in finding some jobs to populate the board with sort of it wasn't launching with nothing, you know, but from then on, it feels like very low commitment because it's mostly inbound, right?It's people coming to you to post. So it's not going to be worth it for you if you don't have perhaps the profile in the community yet to get those inbound leads or, you know, get people visiting your board so that you have the good stats to tell people about that. Yeah. If you do have those things, consider it as an extra income stream.I think it's smart ad like diversify where your income is coming from. that was a big thing that led to me. we haven't gotten to this yet, but last year I doubled the income that I made from my side hustles and having like multiple small streams is how I did it rather than having like. Giant successful stream, if that makes sense.So yeah, I'm considering the job board as part of that.Nathan: [00:21:36]Yeah. I want to get into the side hustles as well. maybe before we do that, let's just go right there. Now the, I guess the first thing that I'm curious about is you share all of your numbers transparently publicly, that I do as well. and you also dive in, like you have popular videos on, like salaries for designers, your own salary history.Like one of my favorite videos that you've put together as like here's the salary that I've had at every role, know, across myCharli: [00:22:05]Every raise that had throughout my career. Yep.Nathan: [00:22:08]Yeah. And so, why, why that level of transfer.Charli: [00:22:12]Nathan. I feel like you're fishing for compliments, even though you don't realize you are, but It's honestly it's. Cause I, I, I got a lot of value from reading your income reports, seeing people like pat Flynn's income reports as well. And it just, I think it, it changed my mindset on money. It just it's something that we are taught that it has a taboo around it.Right. And we all keep it secret for some reason cause everyone else does. And so we think we have to as well. And I don't know, I guess just seeing other people share and seeing the value that I got from it and seeing how it didn't change my perception of them, if anything, it made me respect them more.I was like, well, you know, I feel like I am confident in what I'm earning and I'm confident that I'm being paid, what I'm worth. So why don't I just share this history with other people and tell them about it? And yeah, since then I feel like I've slowly gotten more and more transparent and the latest income report on my blog is the most transparent I've ever been.And yeah, I, no regrets.Nathan: [00:23:09]It's something that comes up. Like the reason I ask the question other than fishing for compliments, which absolutely doing, like, know, on a payment. the reason that I ask is because I think so many people are so timid about it. And so I like to have more of a conversation, not about like, just the like bold, brave people who are out there doing it, but like just to try to normalize it so much more.And so I'm curious what have been some of the downsides, you there's always, there's gotta be at least some YouTube comments or some emails something. And so maybe we can, can share a little bit about what the, I guess the, the outside edge of like, Hey, this is the downside, rather than just telling everyone like, oh, it was fine,Charli: [00:23:53]Yeah, totally. And I would love to hear this from you as well. I've had YouTube comments on both ends of the spectrum to the salary video in particular, some saying, this is irresponsible to tell people this is their rate. They're going to set them way too low. If they go and asking for what your salary is, you're being underpaid, that sort of thing. probably the people who live in San Francisco and work at like a Google or a Facebook or something like that.Nathan: [00:24:16]Yeah. It turns out you make like 500 grand a year. Like something crazy. You, you have to sell your soul. That's the only, like, I think, but other that,Charli: [00:24:24]So I've had people. I've also had the people saying like, oh my gosh, that's like so much money. design is like way over valued. There's people who are like, you know, saving lives in hospitals.And I'm like, yeah, this is a fair freaking point. I won't swear on your podcast. Great point that maybe the answer isn't, we should pay designers less, but maybe we should pay doctors and nurses more, you know, let's take that approach to it. but honestly less of that than I expected is is what I've seen.Maybe, maybe those sort of comments are happening in a less public forum. Like maybe people are talking about me behind my back. I don't ButNathan: [00:25:03]Probably not,Charli: [00:25:04]Yeah, well, Who knows, but either way the, the people who I care about, I haven't heard that from, will say one interesting thing I noticed is that since sharing my salary history and things, whenever I like offer to buy my family dinner or like, I know it will be, I'll be like, oh, pay they protest less.Now we'll just say that.Nathan: [00:25:27]That was going to be my next question is how it interacts with family.Charli: [00:25:31]Yeah,Nathan: [00:25:32]And so now it sounds like they're just like,Charli: [00:25:36]It.Nathan: [00:25:38]We can split it or something, but they only say it once instead ofCharli: [00:25:41]Yeah, yeah, They don't protest too hard. What about you? What have been some of the, like the positives and negatives you've had.Nathan: [00:25:47]YeahI mean, lots of positives, because I feel like the more transparent you are, the more, I mean, the more people read your content and the more they enjoy it, more they understand you. and so the more they want to connect, like soon, the number of people who I really respect and I'm a fan of who have reached out and been like, oh, let's chat.And I'm like, you know, I like playing it. Cool. I'm like, Hey. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be great. I, you know, I've, I've like seen your stuff on Twitter and really it's like, no, no, I've listened to every episode of the podcast or like some version of that. Right. And it's like, be cool, Nathan, you know? so there there's been a lot of that on the downsides.Let's see. I would say this is more early on, right? Because they've been transparent with numbers for the last eight, eight years or so. but especially I got started in online business when I was really young. And so. in the communities that like, like friends from high school or church or, you know, or my wife, Hillary is friends like in those circles, a lot of people were much earlier in their careers.So there was a time that, you know, people were making 25, 30, maybe $40,000 a year in those circles. And then over here, I'm like, if you, if they ask me what I do, I'm like, oh, I'm a writer or I'm a blogger or something like that. But on my blog, I'm talking about how, like I made $250,000 lastCharli: [00:27:14]Yeah.Nathan: [00:27:14]Right. And so there were a few awkward times when those worlds like crossedCharli: [00:27:20]Yeah.Nathan: [00:27:21]And it was, yeah. But there was a long time ago.Charli: [00:27:24]Handle it when, when they did cross though? Like how did you handle the situation? Awkward conversations.Nathan: [00:27:31]Yeah. well I remember one person in particular is one of. We're not, we don't, we aren't very good friends with them anymore, not because of this, but just different apart, but it was, one of my wife's friend's husband, you know, it's one of things where like you go to a party and for whatever reason, everyone segregates by gender.And you're what, why did we do this? You know? ButCharli: [00:27:56]This a middle school dance? Yeah.Nathan: [00:27:58]It was one of those things where someone who was genuinely interested in learning online business and, you know, and that sort of thing in the group and like follow my blog and understood. It was like asking questions about like, oh, how did this latest launch go?And, and I was like answering the questions, but I was just getting this feeling of like awkwardness from this other person. And so it, like, I always try to be transparent, but like, I couldn't, I was struggling to reconcile like in-person Nathan with online Nathan at that time I was glad that that resonates.Charli: [00:28:34]Yeah totally. Yeah.Nathan: [00:28:35]It was totally normal to be able to talk about like a book launch or something, online, but to talk about it in person of like, oh, this made like $40,000 in the course of a couple of days was a really weird thing to say. So I like dance around it and kind of set it. And from this other person got like just a straight up like, oh, wouldn't that be nice to just like, send, you know, send an email and make all this money and not have to work for it.AndCharli: [00:29:05]Well, I just, I did the work in advance though, soNathan: [00:29:07]Yeah, No, that's not the moment where you're like, be like, well, let's take a step back and let me get out the let's explain leverage and how you build a life. You know, it's like wrong, wrong vibe. just kind of shut down. I didn't know how to navigate that situation.So I did it poorly, you know, like kind of laughed it off. Someone else like felt the tension in the group and like made a joke and took the conversation some other way, you know?That was probably the most like awkward scenarioI've ever had. I, I think I have the same thing that you do have, like family is now like, okay.Yeah, no, you can, that's fine. We'll let you pay for that. which is honestly one of my, like, I, I like paying for thingsCharli: [00:29:51]Same. I wouldn't offer if I didn't want to.Nathan: [00:29:53]Yeah, exactly. So, and my family has been, been fantastic about all that.Charli: [00:30:00]I think, another thing that, I've noticed is I dunno, like, I think if you're going to start talking about money online, you have to, you can decide how much you want to share. Right. Just because you're being transparent about something doesn't mean you owe anyone anything more than what you decide you want to share.So for me, I share my income and I shared my business expenses, like the content production expenses this year, but I don't talk about like, oh, here's all everything I paid in taxes, everything that I paid to like live my life, or I don't know. Like there's some things that I'm not interested in talking about online.And I don't know. I, I started out giving people excuses when they would like push for more and more and more. But now I kind of feel like I've given you a lot. You take that and run with it. it, it doesn't, it shouldn't matter to you. my answer when people ask me, well, how much did you pay in Texas?And I just say, I paid the correct amount. I mean, what, benefit does it have to you to know this? You're not living in my exact situation, so I don't understand like how it would help. So, know, I decided that's not a thing that I want to talk about and, I am fine with that. And maybe people aren't, but yeah.Nathan: [00:31:14]Yeah, I think that's a great boundary and that's something probably that I haven't talked about this on this podcast that I'm curious for your answer on is what boundaries have you set in your like personal versus like creative life. Right? Because there are definitely people who would look at you and I, and be like, oh God, I could never like put myself out there in those ways.Like, I would never show up on camera. I like, I wouldn't talk about my life. I wouldn't put things on the internet under my real everyone has these different boundaries. And so I'm curious, like, what are some of yours? And have you set those over time?Charli: [00:31:45]Yeah, I think over time, I've settled more into my content that I put out online, being very focused on my work and obviously who I am showing up to do my work, who I am as a designer, but I don't share a lot of my personal life online. I'll share like the odd Instagram story here and there, pictures of my cats, that sort of thing.But you're not going to find me for example, vlogging on the weekend being like, oh no, I'm just hanging out with my boyfriend watching formula one. You know, that's, that's not the kind of content I'm trying to make. I'm just trying to make design focused. This is my work. This is my process is how I get it done.Sort of content. I did used to, vog more of the personal side of things and it was fun. And it's fun to have those videos to look back on, but it's also a lot like it, as much as you try to live in the moment while also capturing it, your attention is always going to be split some way. And so, you know, that's just a decision I made was to take more time offline when I'm not working and just document the work as what I share has been a good, good split for me, that works for me and my life and my family.Nathan: [00:32:52]Yeah, that makes sense. I feel like it's something that people probably do, both what you and I have done of like, not really having those clear boundaries and then you just gradually figured them out andCharli: [00:33:02]Figure out what worksNathan: [00:33:03]Think there are people who, you know, have things like, oh, we'll never put, like my kid's face on online or something like that.Right. I think like has that, has where like the like certain clips there'll be blurred they're like, oh, they're walking through New York. Yeah, exactly. It's the back of the head. Or you're like, oh, there's a kid in a stroller that you can't really see, you and it's just interesting to try to try to navigate that.So I appreciate people who are intentional. And I think I just, haven't, there's a lot of things that I haven't figured out exactly. And you'll see how it changes over time.Um, cause I think we, you know, what you're comfortable with comfortable. You know what the YouTube channel of a thousand or 10,000 subscribers is different than what you're comfortable with it 200,000.Charli: [00:33:53]Yeah, And, that changes over time, too. Something I recently started doing this year is streaming my work, streaming Twitch and. I dunno, I'd, I'd been very resistant to doing live streams in the past because I was just nervous about what having people watch me design. Maybe it was imposter syndrome I was feeling, or I don't know, just worried about people judging me when they're seeing messy middle of the process, rather than me presenting like this final thing that I've finished and it looks great.And there's been, that was a fun challenge to overcome. Honestly, it's been a really fun way to build community over on Twitch. like diversifying my audience in a way from not just being focused on YouTube or Twitter, but, building small audiences elsewhere. It's been cool.Nathan: [00:34:36]Okay. So you said diversify, which is interesting. And I like that. do you worry about diluting your efforts in diluting your audience? Picking up another none other channel or platform.Charli: [00:34:49]Kind of, but also no. so I have this person in my mind who is like my creator idol. you've probably heard of her Jessica Hische. She is a designer, a letterer illustrator, and I'm just such a big fan of her work and in how she shows up online in that, she's just doing cool stuff all the time. Well, that's what it feels like anyway, like doing cool things, putting it out there, you wouldn't call her a blogger or a, I don't know, like just a speaker or just someone on Twitter.Like she's all of those things. and she just like shows up in different ways to share different pieces of her work. That's what I'm trying to do. I don't want to be known as just a YouTuber and lock myself into that. And I feel like I did for a while. And it's only really been probably in the last year that I feel like I've pulled out of that.And that's not how I mostly hear people describe me anymore. yeah, I'm just trying to finish show up online and share things and, yeah, maybe I could be more successful in terms of building a bigger audience if it was just focused on YouTube, for example, but that's not my end goal. Right. So it, it doesn't serve me.And I'm more interested in just being, being a well-rounded person. Like I call it a digital citizen. This is what I did my, honors degree project about some bit nerdy about it. But yeah, I like being a digital citizen and giving stuff to theNathan: [00:36:13]Yeah.I like it. Well, so maybe if we dive in a little bit on YouTube since that is where the bulk of your audience, know, has come from and, and all of that, what were the things like as you look back over the last, you know, 200,000 subscribers. What were the things that made the biggest impact any step functions and growth or, you know, particular videos or really just habits that paid off over time?Charli: [00:36:41]I think it's mostly been habits. Honestly. There's only one sort of, step point in my growth that I can point to is when I was featured on a list of the design channels to follow on YouTube. And that gave me like a big boost, butNathan: [00:36:55]how ofCharli: [00:36:55]YouTube. Hmm. I can't remember now several thousand, like more than what get.It was significant, like a difference inNathan: [00:37:03]when you were at like 10,000, 50,000.Charli: [00:37:07]I can't even remember now. I feel like probably around like 20,000 ish maybe.Nathan: [00:37:14]So we're talking a significant boost at this point. It'sCharli: [00:37:16]Yes,Nathan: [00:37:17]10%, 20%.Charli: [00:37:19]Yes, In like within a week sort of thing. Major that I started to see those numbers increase. but most of my growth on YouTube has been like slow and steady. Just like climbing up over time for the first five years of being on YouTube.You mentioned habits. I didn't miss a single week about bloating for five freaking years. I don't know how I did it now. I Ms. Weeks all the time now, but that really helped me get in the habit of making videos. Get in the habit of having an idea, figuring out how to express it, learning how to edit, putting it out there, getting a response, making a better next time.I think if I had stressed a lot about my first however many videos I made in those five years, I would have taken a lot longer to grow if I'd been trying to perfect each one. But instead I was just like, no, what matters is getting something out there? So I'm going to get something out there. and that, that was a huge part in building my consistent.Then the other thing I think I'd say helped is deciding who I'm talking to on YouTube. I started out making content about a bunch of different stuff and eventually it settled. No, the reason I wanted to make videos is to talk about design. I should stop talking about makeup and cooking recipes and stuff like that.And like, let's just talk about design. That's what I'm most passionate about. so yeah, going all in on that has enabled me to get posted on lists like top designers to follow on YouTube, that sort of thing, and become, quite a well-known design channel. Yeah.Nathan: [00:38:47]One thing that's interesting to me is that even in choosing that knee seat to go for design, you haven't gone. What I think most people would find the most, likely path, which is like a whole bunch of design tutorials. definitely have designed tutorials, but like, if I'm looking specifically for how to, I don't know, combined shapes and Figma, your channel is not the, like, you don't have video of, you know, exactly how to do that.You might introduction to Figma.That'sCharli: [00:39:17]I do.Nathan: [00:39:18]Yeah. And you might, I have watched that video. I was part of me switching from Photoshop Figma was watching your to videoIt's not hypothetical. but, but what's the reason for not habit, like not going tips or tutorial base.Charli: [00:39:35]Honestly, it's, it's what I said before about, how a lot of my content comes out is making the kinds of things I want to see. And what I wanted to see is the behind the scenes of people's processes and talking through like the decisions they made about a project, like why did they do something this way?That's what I care about more than the, how I feel like there's a million tutorials out there to tell you how to combine shapes and Figma or whatever. there's people who are passionate about that and who are really great at explaining things succinctly. And they do it a lot better than I could. And that's just not like the space I'm looking to fill.I want to show people. The real life of a professional designer, the projects that I work on, how I work on them, how I make decisions, the challenges I run into along the way, that's the kind of thing, but I'm looking to share and, and that sort of lens frames, all of my content, like not just on YouTube, that is also the newsletter, the book, the anything I tweet as well.It sort of all comes from this.Nathan: [00:40:32]Yeah, I think that's the Mo the best way to be long-term authentic and say interested in when you, what you're creating there, like practical side of me is like, but you could do that and have the tips and that would drive, you know, search results. And, and I feel like that's a tension that so many creators have, like, this is what I want to make.And this is what I know will also get me short-term results. Like, should I do both? Should I split my focus? Is that something you ever thought about or struggled with?Charli: [00:40:59]Yeah.That's why I have a Figma one-on-one video is because I know that that does do well in search. And I think that, I think I'm pretty good at explaining at an introductory level, a new piece of software to someone I wouldn't really consider myself a power user of any software. So you're not going to find like a advanced Figma tips video on my channel.Cause I'm not, I don't, I'm not really an advanced user. I'd do what I need to, but I think I'm really good at making, something that seems scary or new, like a new piece of software that you have to use feel easy to understand. And so that's, that's the gap I try to fill in that sense to appease the algorithm.Like right now I'm planning a web flow one-on-one video to sort of go along with this one-on-one series that I'm doing. and my hope is that people see that and then stick around for the rest of the more process driven.Nathan: [00:41:48]One way that I think helps bridge that gap for people sticking around for, for your content is that you put your personality and yourself in it. Right. We don't dive just into a screencast. you know, and it's like, you've heard of watch a video. Like I know I'm watching one of Charli's right?It's not like any other video that I just found through through search.Charli: [00:42:08]And I've comments about that. Nathan people have said like, oh, why is your face so big on the screen? It's always funny how the negative ones talk about you. Not to you say, why is her face on the screen so big? And I'm like, well, you're probably not going, gonna like the rest of my videos that are pretty much only my face.So it's okay that you don't like this oneNathan: [00:42:26]I don't know if you know this, but you're on my channel.Charli: [00:42:31]And I'm the one reading these comments. Yeah.Nathan: [00:42:34]Yeah. Yeah. That's that's good. If anyone was starting a YouTube channel today, either in the design space or something else, like what would you tell them? What would you, would you say as far as like that advice to kick it off?Charli: [00:42:46]I think ask yourself what is not being talked about or not being talked about in a way that you personally find useful or like a perspective that you personally have in the design space in particular, there's a lot of content about like how to become a UX designer, that sort of thing. So it's like, and it's probably the same for a lot of topics is finding your unique angle on it now is important that the number of the space is more saturated and leaning into your personality, because that is sometimes your point of difference is that there's only one of you.And then you have lived your experience and white has led you to this point. And that could be an interesting angle to put on anything that you want to teach or share. But so that, and also just get freaking started. People seem to like, I don't know, obsess over perfecting the video, set up in their audio.And I think it's Roberto Blake who says that your first 100 videos are going to like be. Not good. I, again, I'm not sure if we can swear thisNathan: [00:43:45]You can swear. That'sCharli: [00:43:46]Okay, going to be shit, Nathan, they're going to be shit. And so you should just need to get through them and like get in the habit of producing and getting used to seeing your face and hearing your voice.So yeah, if it's something you want to do get started sooner rather than later, so you can get that awkward stage over with faster.Nathan: [00:44:00]Yeah. Yeah. And then like gear and everything else. You just like gradually replaced thing at a timeCharli: [00:44:06]Exactly.Nathan: [00:44:07]And gradually upgrade it. he did something last year. No, I'm trying to think two years ago, I hate what is time anymore.Charli: [00:44:13]KnowsNathan: [00:44:14]You made a font and that's something that I like looked at.There's like normal people. There's designers, and this is the way that I think, and designers who can make a font. And for anyone who's just listening to the audio. I'm like doing stair-step things with myCharli: [00:44:30]Yes. You have to imagineNathan: [00:44:34]So that puts it in a category of like, I just think of that as an incredibly difficult thing and not like a great moneymaker, like there's a lot of difficult things are high difficulty and high rewards, you know, the effort versus impact, like you're at the top of both.Right. And that's the reason like, okay, great. You know, that's very difficult, but you did it and there's a high, high financial reward. I'm curious the way you thought about making a font, because the way that I see it is that it is very high effort in low financial rewards. but maybe the reward and impact comes some of the.Charli: [00:45:16]I would say, I definitely have not, I dunno, earned even a minimum wage in my sales yet from the hours producing the font. I'm just trying to edit it up right now. Cause it was, I was sold across a few different platforms, but I think I've earned about six, 2,600 pounds from it so far, is like not bad.I don't know what that is in us dollars. should I Google that quickly?Nathan: [00:45:40]Sure. Let's do it. be the episode where we Google everythingCharli: [00:45:44]3,606 us dollars is around about how much I've made from the font. So it's notNathan: [00:45:50]Any matter, a thousand hours into it. And so $3 hour. don't know.Charli: [00:45:55]But the cool thing about it is one. It was just a thing I wanted to do. I thought it would be fun to try. Cause I'm, I'm an avid like font collector myself, and now it is my passive income. Like I, and, yeah, the bulk of that income has come in the past year where I've done minimal marketing for the font.I'll like tweet about it or share whenever someone else, someone posts like an image of them using it. but there's not been a huge concerted effort gone into that. And so that's kind of cool. It feels it's my first passive income that I feel better about than ad sense, for example, cause this is the thing created and I don't know.It's more intentional.Nathan: [00:46:35]Well then you also get to see it in use around the oh, that's my fault.Charli: [00:46:41]Yup. Yup. It's really fun. It's it's especially cool because I just created it as a hand, drawn looking font, but people very quickly just started using it as a font to annotate designs because it does look handwritten and yet it is also like highly readable.And so I really leaned into that as the, like in the way that I frame the font now and the way that I market it is. Yeah, this is to annotate your designs in a really clear and legible way that still looks and written. And we even use it on the convert kit website.Nathan: [00:47:11]Do it comes full circle.Charli: [00:47:12]Yes.Nathan: [00:47:15]On that note. I want to talk about the intersection between having a full-time job and life as a creator, because I think people would, would think of it as, oh, I have this, and then maybe I have this one side hustle or I ha like ha and, and you're able, I think, through the leverage that you've made with, like coming into the job with a, you know, established audience and habits and everything, you've been able to build, you know, like a small design empire.And so I'm you think about balancing those two things and, and what you'd say to someone else really, who is like straddle.Charli: [00:47:54]Yeah, I think I'm getting clear on what you want from these two worlds. It's important. So for me, it really matters to me that I'm still designing. And so, that's why I, and like contributing to a project that's bigger than just like my own. That's why I like working at ConvertKit. I do not enjoy freelancing, so like, it would be hard for me to really fulfill fulfilled, I think freelancing right now, anyway, who knows that could change in the future.That's why I am not interested in going full-time on the creating side of things. And so knowing that means I have okay. I'm no I'm going to work a full-time job. And I know that creating is also important to me, all this content that I'm making. I don't want to give that up either. So how do I do them both?How do I figure this And it's just been a, a constant, constantly changing, I dunno just way that I get this done when I was, I don't know when I was younger, like, I dunno, five years ago, I used to wake up super early in the morning and do a few hours video editing and things like that on side hustles before starting the day, I feel like I'm older and tired now, and I do that.But what I do now that I am earning income from my side hustles is pay people to help me. So I pay for editors. I pay for, yup. Video podcasts, editing, some VA's who helped with my bookkeeping and content management, uploading that sort of thing, just so that I can really keep the parts I enjoy to do myself and hand off, as much as possible of the stuff I don't enjoy.And it's been a worthy investment for me because of, yeah. It making it sustainable.Nathan: [00:49:31]Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. don't know if you posted this in slack or in, on Twitter, as I mentioned it somewhere else, but there's a video that you were editing recently yourself. And that was a bit of a, I don't know, not a wake up call, but I was like a reminder like, oh yeah, this is a lot of work.Charli: [00:49:50]that was one that I wanted to edit and then put out like two days later. And so I knew my editor wouldn't have time for a quick turnaround like that. So I was like, well, I'm just going to do it myself. And I'm like, oh, okay.I remember why I outsourced this.Nathan: [00:50:04]Yeah. That's even outsourcing something that like, you know, well and are good at done for many years. But I think what you've found in that, or, I mean, the point that I want people to take away is like, you can actually create really a lot, if you set up the systems you're willing to let go of the things that you're skilled at, but don't like, they're not the thing that makes the content, know, like maybe if, you and I were filmmakers, right.The editing and having just perfect. Right. That would be part of it where we're like, oh, wow, that was incredible. Right. But, but like we're, we're teaching content, we're sharing things. It needs good editing, but it doesn't like, that's not what makes her break the perks of the video. And so outsourcing that allows you to create so much more content.Charli: [00:50:52]Yep. Exactly. And that's often my answer when people say like, oh my gosh, how do you do it all? I'm like, well, I pay people to help me. That's how I do it all. I don't do it all myself.Nathan: [00:51:01]Yeah. When you sit down like a video that you're making in a given week, I don't pick a video. I'd love to hear kind of what your process is like. Do you just sit down and flip on the camera and start talking? Or are you writing a script first? what's your process? Like how much time does it take?Charli: [00:51:17]I these days, honestly, we do tend to write a script when it's a video. Like, oh, let's say for example, a recent one, I uploaded was one explaining the differences between, I think it was five different job titles and tech that you often see. that is one that I sat down and wrote a script for first, when I film it, I don't necessarily, I don't use a teleprompter and I don't necessarily read the script word for word, but it helps me process my thoughts to write it out first.Sometimes I find when I do a video, that's just bullet points. It takes me a lot longer to film because I end up like talking about something and then I'm like, no, I don't like the way I phrased that or we'll go back and like repeat it a bunch of times. so yeah, getting that out of the way first actually speeds it up for me to spend a bit of time writing.And yeah, I have my filming —set up like this background, if you're watching the video version of this podcast, is just where I do my filming. And that makes it pretty easy to just set the camera up, turn it on and film. I generally like to fill more than one video at a time as well. Cause if I'm going to like, I dunno, put lipstick on or something, I want it to be worthwhile.Nathan: [00:52:20]Sense. What you were saying about writing the script made me think of back when I was doing like designed to tutorial content. What I would often do is I would, I would know roughly what I was going to make or like the tip I was trying to share or whatever. And I'd have like, An idea of like, here's the fake app that I'm going to do it or any of that.Right. and I would record the tutorial and end it and I'd look at it and say, it's like a Photoshop tip and it's five minutes long. And then I would set that aside. Wouldn't delete it, but like, I'd set it aside. And then I would reset my like new Photoshop document or whatever. And I would record the exact same tutorial again.And I would look at it if the first one was five minutes, the next one was three minutes. And like, and I never wrote a script or anything, but just the action of like doing it twice. It was so much better the second time. And that's what I found was such an efficient process because, it still came across naturally, but I like avoided the random rabbit holes that I went down the first time where you're like, you're talking to, like, this is no longer useful.Should I edit this out later? You know,Charli: [00:53:28]Yeah. Totally. That's I do that sometimes as well. When it's more of a, off the cuff video, I'll, there's been times where I've been like, you know what? I got to the end of my, 30 minutes of footage. And I feel like I should record this again to make the edit process easier. And like, so that I'm more clear on what I said and what I didn't.Nathan: [00:53:46]Right. Yeah. Cause easier to get clear in the recording in a second than it is for your editor to be like, okay, the three of this plus version four of that one, like there we go. And we're going to do a jump cut here. So it seems likeCharli: [00:54:01]Yeah.Nathan: [00:54:03]That'd be great. Don't worry about it. are there times that the full-time role and you know, you'd like your side work as a creator, like those have conflicted?Well, I think that people are wondering like, oh, that's, that's great that it magically all works. I'm happy for you. I'm be happy to share examples as well at times, like that with me.Charli: [00:54:21]Yeah.I think that's a really good question because it is often the impression I think that we give across, or that I give across to people. and I find myself in weird situations where I'm convincing someone that my life is not perfect, which is weird, like find yourself but no, you're right, totally.There's I think why it comes across, like it all works is because I lean into the moments when I do feel motivation. And I do have time to like batch film a video. Like I haven't filmed a video for a month and there's still been content going out on my YouTube channel because I filmed it when I had time.And when I felt like doing it. but yeah, there's definitely weeks where. I can't get what I would like to done on my side hustle, because I know that I have to put my job first and I just have to like, accept that that's part of the, like, it's like a compromise you make in deciding to do them both and deciding create on the side means that I'm never gonna be able to produce as much content as someone who does it full-time can, or like take on every opportunity that someone who creates full-time can.And I just have to be okay with that. Right. And if I start to become not okay with that, that's when I need to like check in with it myself and be like, well, what do I really want to be doing here? Yeah.Nathan: [00:55:36]Yeah. I think that one way that they worked really well together is like different creative energy.Like I've spent so much time recently on like, where we're going as a company, you know, it's like all these high level things. and very little time, like as a creator, is core to who I am.Like if I were to, you know, write down some identity statement, like writer would be pretty high up in there, you know, writer, designer. and so if I get too far away from that, I find that, You know, I start to feel like disconnected from who, who I am at my core, but at the same time, like ConvertKit as a company does not need me to be a designer like there.In fact, I often cause more problems. If I jumped into let me design this for you. then, Al for someone else on ourCharli: [00:56:28]It's you didn't use the design system.Nathan: [00:56:31]Exactly like, hi, let me show you. Remember how I showed you the whole thing and how you didn't use any of it. And now this is really nice. and so doing something on the side.Yeah. Like I did a, I started a newsletter just talking about money, like, and doing that on the side has been like a really motivating, like get, has given me creative energy, even though it's an additional thing. The important distinction is that I had to make sure that it wasn't like a treadmill that I was signing up for. so it's like going back to, you know, a season of Inside Marketing Design, right? Yeah. I have energy. It's going to go towards this and then it's going to go on pause. and then also like setting it up. So it's, it's evergreen, right? So instead of sending, a broadcast every Friday morning, you know, I set it up.So it's an automation and convert kit and, you know, it's emails one through five and they just go out automatically. And when I have energy, I come in right. And like, you know, the next email is already ready to go and I'm working on one of a few later. and then I know that if at any point I stop, like here's this asset that people can keep buying or signing up for, and using, and that like it basically the it'll live on there's the system itAre there other things where, where you're doing that or other rules that you have in that.Charli: [00:57:54]Yeah.So maybe a rule that I have is, I was finding myself, spending a lot of time, like reading emails and reading about sponsorship opportunities and like partnership opportunities from companies. And often I would like, feel like I should explore every avenue. Cause like if someone who's offering to pay me money, right?Like who am I to say no to that? I should do my due diligence and check it out. You'd get a few emails in and it would turn out their idea of a sponsorship was like much lower than what your idea of responses. It was the company wasn't a good fit, or I don't know, you didn't love it. and so I just decided that I'm not going to even entertain the idea of a sponsorship from any company tool, brand, whatever that I don't already know and use, and like using myself.And that's just made it really easy. I just have like a text expander auto response that I can just quickly put in to send off to the people who, offer me sponsorships that I, you know, have never heard of before I don't use.And it, sometimes it hurts to like, think about leaving money on the table in that way, but I just have to hope it pays off longterm in that I'm making those much choices with sponsorships, you know?And that there's only one of me and I'd rather be creating than emailing a random companyNathan: [00:59:08]Yeah, you made model to help you make that decision and actedAnd freed up. Not only, you know, if people talk about like, you only have so many decisions you can make in a day you know, what font to use for this heading is one of those, you know, like we make a ton of decisions that you're just like, look, that's a whole series of decisions that I'm not going to make. And that frees up creative energy for other things. Cause like, should I take the sponsorship or not? It's not like a creativeCharli: [00:59:37]Yes, exactly.Nathan: [00:59:38]Business admin question, that's not.Charli: [00:59:41]Yeah. totally. And, another thing that I'm in the middle of right now, I said before the design life podcast is having a summer break. I'm also taking a bit of a summer break from my newsletter, from videos to allow the space to work on season two of Inside Marketing Design. and also to spend some time writing my book, which is completely like fallen by the wayside over the past few months.You know, got out of the habit of it

Derek Ciapala, Norm Hightower, Steve Rebeiro, and Johnny Gomez break down the second round of the 2021 NFL Draft and recap some of the surprising decisions made in the first round. Later, they react to the Rams taking Louisville WR Tutu Atwell with the 57th overall pick.

Johnny Gomez, the Funkiest white boy around is talking to us from his home studio. Check out this guitarist/singer jamming out his funky original tunes

Seguimos adelante con el ciclo TuneBlock Latino y esta vez nos hemos ido de viaje a Colombia y a Venezuela para conocer la realidad cripto de esos dos países que siempre han tenido fama de ser de los más avanzados en cuanto a adopción de Bitcoin se refiere ¿Será eso cierto? En Colombia hablamos con Johnny Gomez de Blockchain Center Colombia, conocemos la grandísima comunidad que existe en el país y empezamos a ser conscientes de que mediante cooperación entre comunidades lograremos conseguir nuestros objetivos. En Venezuela hablamos con Javier Bastardo, más conocido como Cripto Bastardo, autor de noticias en Cointelegraph y fundador de Satoshi Venezuela. ¿Será cierto que en Venezuela bitcoin va en un cohete? Esperamos que te guste mucho este nuevo capitulo del ciclo TuneBlock Latino, no olvides compartirlo y suscribirte, porque vienen más y más viajes con nosotros

Seguimos adelante con el ciclo TuneBlock Latino y esta vez nos hemos ido de viaje a Colombia y a Venezuela para conocer la realidad cripto de esos dos países que siempre han tenido fama de ser de los más avanzados en cuanto a adopción de Bitcoin se refiere ¿Será eso cierto? En Colombia hablamos con Johnny Gomez de Blockchain Center Colombia, conocemos la grandísima comunidad que existe en el país y empezamos a ser conscientes de que mediante cooperación entre comunidades lograremos conseguir nuestros objetivos. En Venezuela hablamos con Javier Bastardo, más conocido como Cripto Bastardo, autor de noticias en Cointelegraph y fundador de Satoshi Venezuela. ¿Será cierto que en Venezuela bitcoin va en un cohete? Esperamos que te guste mucho este nuevo capitulo del ciclo TuneBlock Latino, no olvides compartirlo y suscribirte, porque vienen más y más viajes con nosotros

Derek Ciapala, Johnny Gomez, Steve Goldstein and former Youngstown State Penguins WR Kendric Mallory break down the second and third round of the 2020 NFL Draft.

Derek Ciapala, Johnny Gomez, Steve Rebeiro, Michael Stewart, Brian Joanou, and Tommy Avants settle in for the New Years roundtable discussing what happened to the 2019 Los Angeles Rams and look towards the future.

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez look ahead to the future and note that while the Los Angeles Rams have issues, the future can still be bright with growth both from the coaching staff and the roster. Later, Derek previews the San Francisco 49ers with 4th and Gold's Matt Barr.

https://youtu.be/AdZstHeWnBo Es lunes, así que toca hablar del mundo de la fotografía profesional. Tal y como os adelanté el lunes pasado, en el episodio 6, desde mi punto de vista trabajar como fotógrafo o ser fotógrafo profesional debería centrarse más en Vivir POR la fotografía en lugar de intentar Vivir DE la fotografía.  Y puede que algunos os estéis preguntando... bueno Jose, tampoco hay tanta diferencia, al fin y al cabo sólo cambia una palabra y yo lo que quiero es ganarme la vida haciendo fotos, no escribir literatura. Es cierto, al final no son más que palabras, pero con toda la importancia que tienen estas cuando nos las decimos y repetimos a diario.  Hace poco recibí un libro de Anaya en casa, de vez en cuando me mandan las novedades editoriales de su colección PhotoClub y el título era "VIVIR DE LA FOTOGRAFIA" Me llamó la atención, pensé, esto se va a vender como churros aunque sólo sea por el título.Es una frase que se ha convertido en una especie de mito, en una especie de objetivo supremo o algo parecido.  Además, he escuchado algunos episodios del podcast de Johnny Gomez y Teseo Ruíz, también titulado "Vivir de la fotografía" que por cierto os lo recomiendo, en algunos episodios podréis encontrar cosas muy interesantes.  Sin embargo, hace algunos años, me leí el libro de David DuChemin titulado "Mercaderes de imágenes", un título que pienso que define muy bien al fotógrafo profesional y que le añade un punto más artesanal, incluso más romántico al tema.  Algún día os hablaré del concepto que siempre he tenido en mente de "Fotografía artesanal".Entonces aunque parezca lo mismo vivir de la fotografía que hacerlo por la fotografía, al final, si cambiáis esa palabra en vuestra mente, vuestra forma de enfocaros en vuestra carrera profesional, cambia totalmente.  Es muy distinto si os digo que quiero vivir de los oyentes que si digo que quiero vivir por los oyentes del podcast. En el primer caso quiero sacaros algo, quiero conseguir algo de vosotros. En el segundo caso, lo que quiero es aportaros algo. Entonces lo enfoco de una forma muy diferente. En el primer paso estaría creando cada episodio pensando en qué puedo venderos (Y os lo digo hoy que acabo de lanzar los cursos online jejeje que oportuno soy) En el segundo caso, en mi planteamiento real del podcast, en cada episodio pienso en qué puedo ofreceros, que os puede interesar y ayudar cada día. Leo vuestras sugerencias, las disfruto y las valoro y me planteo cómo llevarlas a cabo para que podáis aprovecharlas el máximo número de oyentes.  Tampoco soy un bendito, no os confundáis, lo que quiero es que al final algunos de vosotros acabéis suscribiendoos a los cursos online o vengáis a los cursos presenciales de Mallorca Fotográfica.  Pero esa no es mi finalidad principal al preparar cada episodio del podcast. La idea es ofreceros información de valor, que me conozcáis y que luego el que quiera y lo necesite, llegue a los cursos.  Entonces como fotógrafos pienso que deberíamos enfocarnos de la misma manera. Vivir por la fotografía, vivir por las fotografías que necesitan nuestros clientes. Aportarle valor a vuestras fotografías y así aportárselo a vuestros clientes, sean particulares o empresas.  Con esto en mente, nos permite darle la importancia que realmente tiene la fotografía en nuestras vidas. Cuando un cliente, un particular, viene a nuestro estudio a pedirnos una sesión de fotos, lo hace porque quiere algo especial para recordar. Será un momento especial en su día, en su semana o incluso en su vida. Y lo que espera es que seamos capaces de, no sólo hacer que ese momento siga siendo especial, sino que también captemos la esencia de ese momento para su recuerdo. Los clientes particulares hoy en día no contratan a un fotógrafo porque sea algo barato, porque sea el que más fotos les da, porque quieren unas fotos y ya está o porque es su boda y no hay boda sin fotógrafo. Es cierto,

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez preview the Los Angeles Rams' big game with the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday Night Football. The Athletic Seattle's Michael Dugar stops in to break down the Seahawks and how they match up with the Rams.

Derek Ciapala, Johnny Gomez, and Erik Ho meet up for a special Sunday morning edition of the podcast. They discuss Saturday's surprise cuts and who they thought the Los Angeles Rams should look at for the practice squad. See if their predictions were wrong! Later, the guys, especially Derek, rant about how the current NFL system punishes teams for developing their players on one end, but that punishment branches in other issues as well.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez break down the Los Angeles Rams' training camp scrimmage against the Los Angeles Chargers. They look at the offense's up and down day, while also getting Joseph Noteboom and Darrell Henderson's thoughts on the practice and more.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez deliver a two-part series breaking down which active NFL players have cases for the Hall of Fame. In part two, they look at star players who are on pace for the Hall of Fame as well as over-the-hill guys who are firmly on the Hall of Fame bubble.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez deliver a two-part series breaking down which active NFL players have cases for the Hall of Fame. In part one, they look at guys who are sure-fire locks, guys who are just about locks, and go in-depth on the three quarterbacks from the 2004 NFL Draft.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez take a look at what potential moves the Rams can make with the rest of their salary cap space. They also dive into this year's batch of undrafted free agents and which players stand out.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez take a look at how the L.A. Rams fared in the 2019 NFL Draft. They discuss the Rams trading down three times, trading back up three times, the decision to trade up for a running back, and give their thoughts on every single Ram draft pick from this year’s draft.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez take a final look at some of the prospects the Rams will be targeting in the 2019 NFL Draft, as well as whether or not they'll end up trading out of the first round. Before that, they break down the Rams picking up Jared Goff's fifth-year option and take a brief look at the team's schedule.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez give an emotional farewell to Sean Mannion, including a live read of our twitter thread asking fans what their favorite Sean Mannion memory was. Before that, they discuss the state of every NFC West team following free agency and talk about the implications of Russell Wilson's impending contract decision.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez say farewell to C.J. Anderson, who is heading to the Detroit Lions on a one-year deal. They also discuss the Rams upcoming preseason game in Hawaii and the implications of having another home game taken away from fans in L.A. before diving into some draft talk.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez are joined by The Draft Network's Trevor Sikkema to discuss potential fits for the Rams with the 31st overall pick in the 2019 NFL Draft. Steve and Johnny also discuss Sean McVay wanting to extend Marcus Peters, the NFL's decision to allow challenges on missed calls, and revisit the new contracts of Blake Bortles, Clay Matthews, and Malcolm Brown.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez are ready to welcome the Rams to Los Angeles, Blake Bortles and Clay Matthews. WBKB11's Michael Beiermeister joins the top of the show to discuss the departure of Matthews from Green Bay and what he can bring to the Rams. Later, Steve and Johnny discuss the contract given to Matthews, the arrival of Bortles and how he ranks amongst the NFL's backups, the looming Jared Goff contract extension and other implications of the Bortles signing, and if the Rams will match the offer sheet given to backup RB Malcolm Brown by the Detroit Lions.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez say goodbye to Roger Saffold, the team's longest tenured player. They discuss Saffold's new deal before breaking down the team's RFA and ERFA tenders, Dante Fowler and his new contract, replacing Lamarcus Joyner with Eric Weddle, keeping Michael Brockers on the roster, confidence in the 2018 draft class stepping into big roles, and close with a discussion about the Odell Beckham trade.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez say farewell to Mark Barron and John Sullivan, who were released by the team Tuesday afternoon. They also discuss Dante Fowler's impending free agency, whether or not the team should cut Michael Brockers, Todd Gurley's knee, and make soda analogies.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez prepare for free agency by diving into the pool of available players. The guys break down a number of players and whether or not the Rams can realistically make a play at them, including Brandon Marshall, Earl Thomas, Kwon Alexander, Clay Matthews, and more. They also discuss the importance of Andrew Whitworth pushing back retirement for another year.

Have you ever fantasized about Martha Stewart beating the fuckin' flames off of Guy Fierri? Or Prince moon walking all over Michael Jackson? Listen this week as the gang starts the campaign to bring Johnny Gomez and Nick Diamond back into our lives with our dream Celebrity Death Matches!

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez are joined by RotoBaller's Kev Mahserejian to hand out final grades to all of the Rams key players, including Jared Goff, Marcus Peters, Ndamukong Suh, and many more.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez discuss whether or not the Rams should use their franchise tag this offseason. They also discuss Cory Littleton's restricted free agency, Zac Taylor's new gig and the ill-fated task of "finding the next McVay," Malcolm Brown's snub, Luis Perez lighting up the AAF, and the futures of Nick Foles, Antonio Brown, and Kareem Hunt.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez break down each position on the Rams roster heading into free agency, including what they should do and who will be back with the team. Did the Rams play a game on Sunday? They might also talk about that.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez dive into the Los Angeles Rams' victory over the New Orleans Saints in the NFC Championship, including Jared Goff's performance and Todd Gurley's lack of one, the officiating and the takes that followed, and much more.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez celebrate the Rams first playoff win since 2005 in style. They discuss the dominating performances from Todd Gurley and CJ Anderson, the not-so-dominating performances of Marcus Peters and Lamarcus Joyner, Sean McVay's aggressive style, the team's ability to contain Alvin Kamara and Michael Thomas, and more before giving final predictions on the NFC Championship game.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez hand out letter grades to each L.A. Rams position group for the 2018 NFL Season. Later, they discuss CJ Anderson's role with a returning Todd Gurley, the Wild Card Weekend matchups, and Steve delivers a special film study of every pass thrown by Sean Mannion during the 2018 season.

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez break down the Los Angeles Rams’ 48-32 victory over the San Francisco 49ers to clinch the No. 2 seed in the NFC Playoffs.

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez analyze the Los Angeles Rams’ 31-9 victory over the Arizona Cardinals. They discuss how the offense changed with C.J. Anderson in the lineup and what still concerns them about the Rams moving forward.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez put the nail in the coffin on the Rams' embarrassing loss to the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday Night Football. They also discuss Marcus Peters chirping fans, Pharoh Cooper being released, CJ Anderson joining the team and the state of the running backs, and the 2019 Pro Bowl selections. Later, they look ahead towards the Rams matchup against the struggling Arizona Cardinals.

Steve returns from a cold trip to Chicago to discuss the Rams Sunday Night debacle with Johnny Gomez. They give their thoughts on Jared Goff's performance, Sean McVay's play-calling, and how the defense looked in a cold loss to the Bears. Later, they look at the path to the playoffs for potential six seeds and preview another prime-time matchup against the Philadelphia Eagles.

Derek Ciapala, Norm Hightower, and Johnny Gomez break down the Los Angeles Rams' hard-fought 36-31 victory over the Seattle Seahawks. They analyze what's wrong with the defense, what's working with the offense, and question whether or not Aaron Donald is paying the price for being the league's most dominant defender.

Johnny Gomez returns from his vacation to join Steve and break down the Dante Fowler trade, Jamon Brown being cut, and Sean McVay being the "favorite" for the Cleveland job. Later, they discuss whether the showdown with New Orleans is the biggest game of the year and discuss their confidence in the defense going up against studs like Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez break down the Los Angeles Rams' 34-0 obliteration of the Cardinals in Week 2, including great performances on special teams and not-so-great performances from Arizona. They also discuss the logistics of Aaron Neary's arrest, the itchin for Ficken, say goodbye to Brandon Allen, discuss the implications of their first real matchup of the season with the LA Chargers, and look into Josh Gordon, Carson Wentz and more in the Fantasy Five.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez return to soak in a Week 1 victory for the Rams. They break down the tale of two halves, linebacker struggles and triumphs, and Steve gets PTSD discussing a former Ram who had a field day on Monday night. Later, the two discuss Pharoh Cooper's injury, the Khalil Mack trade that almost happened, and preview the Rams' Week 2 matchup with the Arizona Cardinals.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez give their predictions for the Rams final 53 man roster, which includes breaking down the depth at each position on the team and which preseason all-stars deserve a spot on the team.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez break down Rob Havenstein's contract extension and what it means for the team in the short and long-term. Later, they discuss John Kelly, KhaDarel Hodge, Mike Thomas, and whether or not Sean Mannion should actually be the team's backup quarterback. Steve closes out the show with his fantasy five, including what to make of the new situations for Josh Gordon and Adrian Peterson.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez complete their four-part series breaking down the Los Angeles Rams' 2018 schedule. They take a look at the matchups with the Chicago Bears, Philadelphia Eagles, Arizona Cardinals and the hated San Francisco 49ers. Where do they think the Rams will finish? Check it out!

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez launch the second Rams Talk podcast: Butting Heads. This inaugural episode features Los Angeles Rams rookie tight end Codey McElroy. Listen in to learn about McElroy's long journey to the NFL. Steve and Johnny also touch on Jamon Brown's suspension and the team's upcoming schedule.

Derek Ciapala, Norm Hightower and Johnny Gomez continue Rams Talk's Tour Around the League with Raiderssnakepit's Bill Williamson and Locked on Vikings' Sam Ekstrom. Then former Los Angeles Rams' great Jim Everett visits to talk about the team's draft and offseason.

Derek Ciapala, Norm Hightower and Johnny Gomez sit down with USA Today Cardswire's Jess Root to get an overview of the Arizona Cardinals' 2018 offseason. Then Bolts from the Blue's Garrett Sisti joins the show to break down the Los Angeles Chargers' offseason. Finally, the guys end the show with a brief, and let us stress brief, discussion on the newest Los Angeles Rams uniform news.

Derek Ciapala, Norm Hightower, and Johnny Gomez visit with Legion of 12/USA Today Seahawks Wire's Corbin Smith to discuss the offseason up in Seattle. Then 49ersHub's Kevin Molina joins to explain where the 49ers stand after an eventual offseason. Finally, Rams Talk Radio tops it all off with rookie Rams DE John Franklin-Myers, who addresses what it will take to be successful and prove himself in the NFL.

Norm Hightower, Johnny Gomez, and Derek Ciapala break down the Los Angeles Rams' 2018 draft class. They go through each pick and look at what role these young rookies will play for the Rams.

Derek Ciapala, Norm Hightower and Johnny Gomez break down the fourth round of the 2018 NFL Draft. They analyze the Rams' two picks in the round and the players still left on the draft board.

Derek Ciapala, Johnny Gomez, and Norm Hightower pick up where they left off with the first round of the draft. They dissect the high impact picks and analyze the Los Angeles Rams' only selection of the first three rounds, offensive tackle Joseph Noteboom.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez grade the Los Angeles Rams' offseason moves. They also look at the team's options in the third round of the upcoming 2018 NFL Draft.

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez host Take on the Titans' Michael Hopkins to preview a critical game for both the Tennessee Titans and the Los Angeles Rams. One team is looking for a playoff berth; the other team is one win away from its first division title since 2003.

Derek Ciapala, Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez analyze the L.A. Rams' 42-7 demolition of the Seattle Seahawks to almost seal the NFC West title.

Norm Hightower and Johnny Gomez preview this Sunday’s match up between the Los Angeles Rams and the Dallas Cowboys.

Derek Ciapala and Johnny Gomez look at the Rams’ 21-19 loss to the crosstown Chargers. They also look at the salary cap numbers hurting the Aaron Donald negotiations.

Norm Hightower, Martin Cruz and Johnny Gomez discuss Eric Dickerson’s comment that the LA Rams should start Sean Mannion over Jared Goff.

Norm Hightower and Johnny Gomez look at the Rams’ moves in free agency.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez recap the Rams’ win over Arizona.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez break down what the Rams need to do to beat the Bucs in Week 3.

Derek Ciapala, Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez review the Rams’ 9-3 win over the Seahawks and compare the environment in L.A. to St. Louis.

Steve Rebeiro and Johnny Gomez discuss the Rams’ humiliating performance at San Francisco to open the season.

Norm Hightower, Johnny Gomez and Steve Rebeiro look at the Rams’ win over Kansas City and the key players involved.

Norm Hightower, Johnny Gomez and Steve Rebeiro review the first few days of training camp and discuss the preseason 28-24 win over the Dallas Cowboys.

Norm Hightower, Johnny Gomez and Steve Rebeiro preview training camp.