Seeking Wisdom

One of the youngest self-made billionaires and an entrepreneur/author/ultra marathoner get married and have four kids, yet they still manage their own businesses and try new adventures daily. How do they manage it all? In this from-the-vault episode of Seeking Wisdom, DC sits down with founder of Spanx, Sara Blakely, and author, entrepreneur and keynote speaker, Jesse Itzler, to talk prioritization, marriage and extreme sports. DC and Jesse bond over big calendars, and DC learns how Sara and Jesse's whirlwind love story still works today.Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcasts or text him to share your feedback at +1-212-380-1036. For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

What do you do after you accomplish your biggest professional goal at age 33? That's the question DC asked professional climber Alex Honnold in this exclusive HYPERGROWTH episode of Seeking Wisdom.Alex was the first, and remains the only, climber to free solo El Cap, a 3,000ft granite face in Yosemite National Park, in 2018. Contrary to popular belief, it wasn't as easy as he made it look. In this episode, DC and Alex talk about what it was like to train for the climb with an entire film crew by his side, what life's been like since the release of the Free Solo movie, and what's next for Alex.Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcasts or text him to share your feedback at +1-212-380-1036. For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

Ever blame your unproductive day on too many emails, Slacks, and phone calls? Us too. But on this never-before-released episode of Seeking Wisdom, author, investor and lecturer, Nir Eyal, debunks the myth of technology's influence on distraction. Because it's not the technology's fault you're distracted – it's you wanting to be distracted.DC and Nir talk about Nir's background in advertising and gaming, what he's learned from writing two books (Indistractible and Hooked), and why anything that you do that you don't PLAN to do is a distraction.Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcasts or text him to share your feedback at +1-212-380-1036. For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

What do skiing, rock climbing, and photography have in common? They can all become part of one story – if you seek the parallels. For this episode we went back into the crates to bring you an exclusive episode with the one and only Jimmy Chin. Jimmy, who is a professional climber, photographer, and Academy-Award winning film director, talks with DC about what it was like to grow up as the “other.” He shares how his early understanding for different worlds helps him to draw parallels between seemingly strikingly different things today. But Jimmy would not be the success story he is without the help of his mentors, so in this episode DC and Jimmy geek out on storytelling and mentorship. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcasts or text him to share your feedback at +1-212-380-1036. For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

Leo Tenenblat (Drift's Chief Product Officer) is back to talk with DC about iteration. Leo shares what iteration is like at Drift and how it compares to other companies he's worked at – from the big ones (like Salesforce where he drove the Einstein platform) to the small ones (like the startup he founded called AppMesh). DC discusses the difficulty of tying together marketing and product releases too tightly. They also touch on the importance of feedback loops and why product teams need to get as close to the customer as possible. Is this really just a veiled 1-on-1 meeting for DC and Leo? You can be the judge.Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcasts or text him to share your feedback at +1-212-380-1036.For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

DC's goal in life? To replace himself. On this episode, he's joined by Leo Tenenblat (Drift's Chief Product Officer) to talk through what this means in the context of a scaling company. Together, DC and Leo talk about their approaches to hiring and team building, projecting yourself into the future, and the one thing Leo thinks DC should stop doing. Digressions include some Portuguese lessons (for DC) and comparing astrological signs. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcasts or text him to share your feedback at +1-212-380-1036.For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

The world of marketing is constantly evolving, but understanding people? That will always be fundamental. Today, marketing expert Rebecca Messina joins David to share her biggest learnings from the 22 years she spent at Coca-Cola, what it was like to be Uber's first-ever CMO, and how she's applying both of those experiences to her work as a senior advisor at McKinsey. DC and Rebecca go deep on the importance of brand building and brand love, the psychology of marketing, and what it means to be a brand vs. an icon. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcasts or text him to share your feedback at +1-212-380-1036.For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

There's a saying at Amazon: "Good intentions don't work. Mechanisms do." For well over a decade, Colin Bryar and Bill Carr worked in tandem with Jeff Bezos, building out the mechanisms and leadership principles that shaped the company into what it is today. How'd they do it? They started with a relentless focus on the customer – and worked backwards from there. Colin and Bill were in the trenches for the creation of some of Amazon's most innovative products and services including Kindle, Amazon Prime, Amazon Studios, and Amazon Web Services. And on today's episode of Seeking Wisdom, they sit down with DC and talk about what Amazon was really like in the early days, the development of critical processes like the PR FAQ, single-threaded teams, and their best practices for hiring the right talent. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcasts or text him to share your feedback at +1-212-380-1036.For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/Buy a copy of Working Backwards here: https://www.amazon.com/Working-Backwards-Insights-Stories-Secrets/dp/1250267595

You have to pick an edge, pick a side. You can't be in the middle. Because the middle is where there's consensus. This week on Seeking Wisdom, DC and Adam talk about why consensus is dangerous for companies – and why you need to avoid it at all costs. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcasts or text him to share your feedback at +1-212-380-1036.For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

To kick off the first episode of Drift's newest podcast, DC sits down for a special episode with Elias Torres – Drift co-founder, CTO, and now the host of The American Dream. In an unfiltered chat with Dena Upton (Drift's Chief People Officer) Elias and DC open up about their backgrounds and upbringing (Elias in Nicaragua and DC in Queens, NY), what it means to be Latin American in tech, how Drift is addressing systemic racism in the industry, and more.The American Dream is available wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-american-dream/id1561784909Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5bIW15aPVT1JFNyhCLLdab?si=q0vYqyvjSBe_PzyHkN9ZLg&nd=1In the meantime, be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC, Elias, and Dena on Twitter @dcancel @eliast @heydenaupton@DriftPodcasts.For more learnings from Elias, check out his quarterly newsletter, The American Dream. You can subscribe at https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/american-dream/

This week on Seeking Wisdom, David and Adam talk about arbitrage opportunities. And we're not talking about paying for clicks on Google or looking for a spread. For DC, arbitrage means finding bigger opportunities. It means being contrarian. It means looking for value where others see none. In other words, invest when others won't, hold back when others are greedy. Tune in to hear more now.Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcasts or text him to share your feedback at +1-212-380-1036.For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

This week on Seeking Wisdom, DC talks about the five aspects of culture at Drift. Who better to join the discussion than our very own Chief People Officer, Dena Upton. The two of them dive right into why these five aspects help the team at Drift thrive. Dena says it perfectly, “We need to be explicit about what we celebrate, and what we don’t tolerate.”Tune in to listen to DC and our superstar guest, Dena!Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcasts or text him to share your feedback at +1-212-380-1036.For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/Key Takeaways01:56 Role Model in Future Diversity03:44 Defining Principles06:22 Challenge Your Thinking11:01 Make Scrappy Classy13:19 Reid Hastings Quote16:29 Careers Aren't Always Linear19:48 Creating a Culture of Autonomy28:12 Creating an Equitable Company

DC and Adam are back to talk about... the news?! That's right. In a year that's been dominated by the news, DC has figured out how to tune it out. But not in favor of ignorance. Instead, he does it for his own sanity and productivity.In this episode, you'll learn about DC's eight-year-long news fast, how it's helped him focus on what's most important, and why it's the ultimate mood builder. Plus, hear how he tunes it out, but still manages to check in.Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcasts or text him to share your feedback at +1-212-380-1036.For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

On this episode of Seeking Wisdom, DC and Adam dive deep into one of DC's favorite topics: storytelling. DC comes from a very analytical, framework-driven way of thinking and for many, including him, storytelling can seem arbitrary. It's a topic that's hard to get your arms around. So until DC founded Drift, he hadn't given it too much thought. But then he had to market to marketers. And that's when he finally began to understand the power of storytelling.On this episode, you'll get practical and tactical advice on how to build a story that sells including lessons from DC himself, Joseph Campbell who popularized the concept of the "hero's journey", and why stand up comedians are great storytellers.Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcastsFor more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

DC is often asked why he started Drift when he started Drift. As his fifth company, a lot went into the decision. But it boils down to a simple question – Why now? – with a simple answer– undeniable shifts. In this episode, DC explains why “Why now?” is the most important question any entrepreneur can ask themself before starting a new venture. The answer must always be because of an undeniable shift – a massive change in our world, a megatrend that’s forcing people to adopt new behaviors. He also shares insights from three experts: Strategic messaging expert Andy Raskin, Sequoia Capital founder Don Valentine, and Sequoia partner and early Facebook employee Mike Vernal. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcasts For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/ Resources: Andy Raskin – Great Pitches Start with Change https://medium.com/the-mission/great-pitches-start-with-change-2c7e696b86ea Don Valentine – Target Big Markets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKN-abRJMEw

On this episode of Seeking Wisdom, DC sits down with Dena Upton, Drift's Chief People Officer, to discuss the company's recent decision to go digital first. Together, they talk about what this means for company culture, hiring, and the fate of our office space (hint: Conversation Spaces are coming to cities near you). You're not going to want to miss this episode where DC and Dena uncover what the future of work looks like. Tune in! Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @DriftPodcasts For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

On this episode of Seeking Wisdom, DC breaks down his top five sales and marketing predictions for 2021. We know... these are usually a dime a dozen, but DC's predictions for are anything but predictable. A sneak peek: CMOs will be held accountable for revenue, the CRM as we know it is dead, AI AI AI, and much more. Tune in to hear what's in store for 2021. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @HYPERGROWTH_PodFor more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

On this episode of Seeking Wisdom, DC breaks down his top five sales and marketing predictions for 2021. We know... these are usually a dime a dozen, but DC's predictions are anything but predictable. A sneak peek: CMOs will be held accountable for revenue, the CRM as we know it is dead, AI AI AI, and much more. Tune in to hear what's in store for 2021. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC on Twitter @dcancel @HYPERGROWTH_Pod For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

Great opportunities are much rarer than you think. When they do come your way, go all-in. That's the takeaway DC shares on this episode of Seeking Wisdom and it's just one secret behind Charlie Munger's success. Tune in for more wisdom plus lessons from Jeff Bezos and Bill Ackman. And, is this the episode DC finally gets on Twitch? You'll have to listen to find out.Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_PodFor more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

Great opportunities are much rarer than you think. When they do come your way, go all-in. That's the takeaway DC shares on this episode of Seeking Wisdom and it's just one secret behind Charlie Munger's success. Tune in for more wisdom plus lessons from Jeff Bezos and Bill Ackman. And, is this the episode DC finally gets on Twitch? You'll have to listen to find out. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

If you only listen to one episode of Seeking Wisdom, this should be it. Why? Because this next lesson is essential to understanding everything else. Here, DC and Adam dive into psychology – the science of how and why we make decisions. Together they unlock how to gain influence, how to persuade, how to avoid past mistakes, and so much more. Essential reading / listening for this episode: - Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion (Robert Cialdini)- Thinking, Fast and Slow (Daniel Kahneman)- Human Misjudgment (a talk by Charlie Munger)Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_PodFor more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

If you only listen to one episode of Seeking Wisdom, this should be it. Why? Because this next lesson is essential to understanding everything else. Here, DC and Adam dive into psychology – the science of how and why we make decisions. Together they unlock how to gain influence, how to persuade, how to avoid past mistakes, and so much more. Essential reading / listening for this episode: - Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion (Robert Cialdini) - Thinking, Fast and Slow (Daniel Kahneman) - Human Misjudgment (a talk by Charlie Munger) Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

On this episode of Seeking Wisdom, DC and Adam dive into the lesson that inspired the show – why we all need to learn from history. Unfortunately, this is a lesson that's hard to learn and one that DC found especially difficult to internalize. Despite what we're told as children, we're not inherently special. The lessons learned by our parents and grandparents do apply to today. Tune into the full episode to learn how you too can prioritize learning from history.Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_PodFor more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

On this episode of Seeking Wisdom, DC and Adam dive into the lesson that inspired the show – why we all need to learn from history. Unfortunately, this is a lesson that's hard to learn and one that DC found especially difficult to internalize. Despite what we're told as children, we're not inherently special. The lessons learned by our parents and grandparents do apply to today. Tune into the full episode to learn how you too can prioritize learning from history. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod For more learnings from DC, check out his weekly newsletter, The One Thing. You can subscribe here: https://www.drift.com/insider/learn/newsletters/dc/

On this episode, DC and Adam dig into the next lesson DC wishes knew when he was younger – how to prioritize what matters most and why it doesn't actually matter if you never get to any of the "the small rocks." In other words, do the one thing that will move you closer to your goal. That might take five minutes or it could take many days. Either way, this method of working is the anti-checklist. Tune in to find out why.Required reading for this episode:The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen CoveyThe ONE Thing by Gary Keller and Jay PapasanLike this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod

On this episode, DC and Adam dig into the next lesson DC wishes knew when he was younger – how to prioritize what matters most and why it doesn't actually matter if you never get to any of the "the small rocks." In other words, do the one thing that will move you closer to your goal. That might take five minutes or it could take many days. Either way, this method of working is the anti-checklist. Tune in to find out why. Required reading for this episode: The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey The ONE Thing by Gary Keller and Jay Papasan Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod

On this episode of Seeking Wisdon, DC sits down with Kyle York, former CRO, CMO, and General Manager of Dyn and current founder and CEO of York IE. Together they discuss Dyn's path to becoming a $100 million business and its ultimate sale to Oracle. Plus, the importance of working through "the Dips," mental health and well-being, the future of field sales and marketing in a post-COVID world, and much more. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod

On this episode of Seeking Wisdon, DC sits down with Kyle York, former CRO, CMO, and General Manager of Dyn and current founder and CEO of York IE. Together they discuss Dyn's path to becoming a $100 million business and its ultimate sale to Oracle. Plus, the importance of working through "the Dips," mental health and well-being, the future of field sales and marketing in a post-COVID world, and much more.Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod

On this episode of Seeking Wisdom, DC and Adam touch on one of DC's vices – shiny distractions. In fact, it's DC's self-proclaimed weakness. As an eternal optimist, DC is always optimizing. But that puts your outlook only a day, week, or month out. So he's learned to set guardrails to help him avoid the next new thing and instead focus on the bigger picture. Find out how he does it in this episode. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod

On this episode of Seeking Wisdom, DC and Adam touch on one of DC's vices – shiny distractions. In fact, it's DC's self-proclaimed weakness. As an eternal optimist, DC is always optimizing. But that puts your outlook only a day, week, or month out. So he's learned to set guardrails to help him avoid the next new thing and instead focus on the bigger picture. Find out how he does it in this episode. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod

Show me your friends and I'll show you your future. It's a common refrain because it's true – you are the average of those you spend the most time with. That's why it's so important to choose your personal and professional mentors wisely. DC and Adam tell you how to choose the best mentors, where to look, what to expect, and more in this episode of Seeking Wisdom. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod

Show me your friends and I'll show you your future. It's a common refrain because it's true – you are the average of those you spend the most time with. That's why it's so important to choose your personal and professional mentors wisely. DC and Adam tell you how to choose the best mentors, where to look, what to expect, and more in this episode of Seeking Wisdom. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod

As an eternal optimist, DC believes in the power of ideas. Which is one reason he’s always jumping to that next ‘shiny object’. In this week’s episode, DC and Adam talk about how to avoid shiny object syndrome (spoiler alert, you’ve got to sleep on it) and instead double down on what’s working. Plus, DC shares what he’s doubling down on right now. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod

As an eternal optimist, DC believes in the power of ideas. Which is one reason he’s always jumping to that next ‘shiny object’. In this week’s episode, DC and Adam talk about how to avoid shiny object syndrome (spoiler alert, you’ve got to sleep on it) and instead double down on what’s working. Plus, DC shares what he’s doubling down on right now. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod

DC and Adam are back on Seeking Wisdom to talk about the importance of reading every day – one of DC’s favorite topics. But he’s changed his tune a bit. Since COVID, DC understands that so much of the important stuff happens in the “space in between” – when you’re not reading or writing or listening, but rather just being. So on this episode, DC shares why he still thinks you need to read every day – and how to accomplish that goal – but also why you need to give yourself permission to be less intense about the practice.Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod.

DC and Adam are back on Seeking Wisdom to talk about the importance of reading every day – one of DC’s favorite topics. But he’s changed his tune a bit. Since COVID, DC understands that so much of the important stuff happens in the “space in between” – when you’re not reading or writing or listening, but rather just being. So on this episode, DC shares why he still thinks you need to read every day – and how to accomplish that goal – but also why you need to give yourself permission to be less intense about the practice. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod.

Seeking Wisdom is back! During this 25-episode season, David Cancel shares what he wishes he knew when he was younger – and the stories behind the lessons – to help you avoid making the same mistakes. But first, in this very special episode, DC shares his thoughts on the COVID pandemic, how to pull out silver linings when possible, and why massive external events can trigger personal and professional behavioral changes. And why that just might be a good thing for you and your business. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod.

Seeking Wisdom is back! During this 25-episode season, David Cancel shares what he wishes he knew when he was younger – and the stories behind the lessons – to help you avoid making the same mistakes. But first, in this very special episode, DC shares his thoughts on the COVID pandemic, how to pull out silver linings when possible, and why massive external events can trigger personal and professional behavioral changes. And why that just might be a good thing for you and your business. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with DC and his co-host, Adam Schoenfeld, on Twitter @dcancel @schoeny @HYPERGROWTH_Pod.

We've got some exciting news for you! If you're looking for the Growth and Operations podcasts, you can now find them in their very own feeds everywhere you listen to podcasts. Simply search Growth by Drift and Operations by Drift or follow the links in our show notes to subscribe everywhere. Remember six stars only ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Happy listening!

On this episode of #Operations, host Sean Lane talks with Auvik Network's CMO, Jacqui Murphy. Jacqui and Sean talk about how she's scaled from a marketing team of one to now oversee marketing and business development teams totaling more than 50 people. Plus, why she's banished vanity metrics for good, her belief that the magic comes from the people on her teams – not just the data and much more. Tune in for their in depth conversation now.

On this episode of #Growth, host Matt Bilotti sits down with Greg Skloot, President & COO of Crystal, to discuss a whole new level of personalization. We all know we're targeted online based on past browsing history and offers are often personalized with our name and sometimes location. But are we on the cusp of a whole new level of personalization? One that takes into account personality type and how we might want to be interacted with? Greg and Matt discuss the future of personalization on this episode. Be sure to tune in.

On this episode of #Operations, host Sean Lane sits down with VC and former Salesforce EVP and GM, Brett Queener. Queener joined the company when it was at $11 million in revenue. Today, Salesforce's market cap stands at $123 billion. This monumental growth is due in large part to Queener's focus on specialization and segmentation – essential for the success of any ops pro.

Today's episode of Growth is all about testing. Matt Bilotti is joined by Drift's growth tech lead Vignesh Mohankumar. Together Matt and Vig discuss the ins and outs of testing products. How should you test the products you're building? When should you test? And equally important – when shouldn't you test? Matt and Vig dig into the considerations you need to keep in mind when testing products and they share real-life examples from building and testing products at Drift. Don't miss out.

On this episode of Seeking Wisdom, DC and DG talk about the power of keeping a beginner's mindset. Yes, even if you're an expert. Plus they break down a single tweet that teaches more about marketing and copywriting in two minutes than you can get from reading 30 copywriting books. It's a gold mine. Seriously. And make sure you listen to the end – DC drops a bombshell about the future of Seeking Wisdom that you don't want to miss.

Today on #Operations, host Sean Lane sits down with Okta's VP of Business Operations, Jake Randall. Okta's market cap is now $9 billion...not a bad company to learn from. Together Sean and Jake discuss how to actually measure your ops team's performance, scaling through hypergrowth, Jake's career path at Okta, what he's reading now and much more.

On today's episode of #Growth, host Matt Bilotti is talking all about testing – A/B testing to be exact. He breaks down the best ways to test, teaches us all about Bayesian Statistics and chats through this and more with Guy Yalif, co-founder and CEO of Intellimize.

Want to start reading more business and leadership books but aren't sure where to begin? This special episode of Seeking Wisdom is all about DC and DG’s favorite subject – books! Tune into to hear which books have a permanent place on DC’s bookshelf.

“Show me your friends, and I’ll show you your future.” In this episode of Seeking Wisdom, DC and DG are talking about the five people closest to you – and how the people you surround yourself with in everyday life and on social media have a bigger impact on you than you think.

On the very first official episode of #Operations, host Sean Lane sits down with Will Collins, VP of Operations at Drift. Together they look inward to focus on operations at Drift – Will was employee number 13. So what exactly does it mean to work in ops at a hypergrowth company? You'll find out in this episode.

Today on #Growth, Matt is talking all about experimentation. Specifically how to approach changes you might make to your site or product – bite-sized or incremental changes vs. going all out with big swings. Matt breaks this down with a real-world example you've probably faced yourself – updating your homepage. There are pros and cons to both and Matt lays it all out here.

In this episode of Seeking Wisdom, DG is taking you back in time...to 2015. He had just joined the marketing team at Drift. There was no content. There was no blog. And he had a busy CEO who was full of ideas – but who had no time to spend turning them into content. Tune into to learn how DG was able get more content from his CEO – and create the world’s first six star podcast in the process.