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A theology podcast for the church. The pastor theologians podcast consists of conversations and teaching resources at the intersection of theological scholarship and life and ministry in the local church. The vision for this show is to help equip pastors to be theologians for today’s complex world.

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    • May 26, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
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    The Pastor Theologians Podcast is an exceptionally insightful and inspiring resource for individuals who find themselves navigating the intersection between academic pursuits and pastoral ministry. This podcast has been invaluable in providing solace and reassurance to those who have struggled with internal conflicts regarding their academic inclinations within a religious context. It serves as a reminder that one does not necessarily need to pursue a PhD to fulfill their scholarly leanings, while still emphasizing the importance of loving God through rigorous study. With its focus on real-life experiences and journeys of pastors/scholars, this podcast offers unique perspectives that are both relatable and encouraging for individuals in divinity school or already engaged in ministry.

    One of the best aspects of The Pastor Theologians Podcast is its ability to affirm academic leanings without placing unnecessary pressure on individuals to pursue advanced degrees. It celebrates the role of pastor/theologian and highlights the value of rigorous study within a ministry context. By featuring interviews with pastors/scholars who have already achieved doctoral qualifications, this podcast provides insights and wisdom that can guide listeners in striking a balance between academia and pastoral practice.

    Although it is challenging to find any major flaws in this podcast, one could argue that it may not cater to every listener's specific theological interests or denominational background. However, given the broad range of topics covered, it is likely that most individuals will find episodes that resonate with them regardless of their theological or denominational affiliations.

    In conclusion, The Pastor Theologians Podcast is an exceptional resource for individuals seeking guidance and inspiration as they navigate the complex relationship between academia and pastoral ministry. Through its interviews with pastors/scholars, this podcast affirms the importance of intellectual engagement without imposing unrealistic expectations on its listeners. It serves as a reminder that being a pastor/theologian is not only possible but also highly valuable in cultivating one's faith journey. Whether you are currently pursuing an MDiv or contemplating doctoral work, this podcast provides valuable insights and encouragement that can help you thrive intellectually and spiritually within the context of ministry.



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    Culture and Christians | Dennis Greeson

    Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2025 47:29


    What is culture, and what is our relationship to it as Christians? Dennis Greeson joins the podcast today to talk about his recent book The Way of Christ in Culture: A Vision for All of Life (Lifeway 2024), coauthored with Benjamin T. Quinn. In the book, the authors provide a framework for knowing one's time in God's story, one's place in creation, and following wisdom. He also shares about the Alexandrian Institute, a cohort-based model for theological education focused on engaging Scripture and confessional traditions and the wisdom of previous generations of Christians, and sending students to engage their context. 

    Owned by God | James Arcadi

    Play Episode Listen Later May 23, 2025 51:58


    This week, James Arcadi joins the podcast to talk about his latest book, Holiness: Divine and Human (2023). He also shares about his dual calling to both pastoral ministry as a full-time Anglican rector, and to academic theology as a guest professor at Wheaton College. What is the relationship between abstract ideas and practical application? What does it mean for something to be "consecrated" or "holy"?  This and more on today's podcast!

    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Adam Copenhaver

    Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2025 50:07


    On the podcast this week, Adam Copenhaver shares with us about his early ministry caring for an older congregation, and his education and research on Colossians. He also tells us about his current pastoral context leading a church in a small, migrant farm town which had previously been led by an abusive pastor. He previews the breakout topic he will lead at the 2025 CPT Conference, Good Shepherds: Pastoral Identity and the Future of the Church. How can our churches become both helpful and welcoming to those who are suffering abuse or oppression? How can pastors identify and eliminate harmful tendencies in themselves that could lead to abuse later? 

    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Ben Burkholder

    Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2025 59:20


    This week we are joined by CTP Fellow Ben Burkholder. Ben shares how he developed an interest in learning how people grow as disciples. Reflecting on his time as a student, Ben also shares insights about the relationship between psychology and spiritual formation. This and more on today's podcast! 

    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Eric Rivera

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2025 46:06


    Join us this week as we get to know Eric Rivera. Eric will be a plenary speaker at the 2025 Pastor Theologians Conference, Good Shepherds: Pastoral Identity and the Future of the Church. On this episode, Eric talks about how his story shaped his interests and calling in church history and pastoral ministry. Drawing from his context as a pastor at a multi-ethnic church in the greater Chicago area, he also shares what he has learned it means to be a Good Shepherd in the 21st Century. 

    To Gaze upon God | Samuel Parkison

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 14, 2025 55:01


    Samuel Parkison joins the podcast today to talk about his recent book, To Gaze upon God: The Beatific Vision in Doctrine, Tradition, and Practice (InterVarsity Press 2024.) He also shares with us his story and calling to academic ministry at the Abu Dhabi Extension Site at Gulf Theological Seminary in the United Arab Emirates. What is the beatific vision? What does the beatific vision have to do with this moment in history for the church? This and more on today's podcast? Exiles in Babylon

    What We're Reading — April 2025

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2025 34:14


    For our April episode on books, we, the CPT staff, have been reading:CR Wiley, In the House of Tom Bombadil (2021)Ryan Holiday, The Obstacle Is the Way (2014)Percival Everett, James (2024)Harold Netland, Religious Experience and the Knowledge of God (2022)Exiles in Babylon

    Mothers, Dignity, and Utility | Nadya Williams

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2025 51:27


    Nadya Williams joins the podcast to talk about her recent book, Mothers, Children, and the Body Politic: Ancient Christianity and the Recovery of Human Dignity (IVP Academic, 2024.) How do our attitudes towards motherhood reflect either a commodification of human life or, by contrast, a rich affirmation of the imago dei? This and more on today's podcast! Exiles in Babylon

    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Stephen Campbell

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2025 53:25


    Stephen Campbell joins us today on the CPT podcast. Stephen tells us about witnessing his family's ministry through his childhood. He also shares how the Lord prepared him for his current context pastoring in Germany, and his research on the book of Deuteronomy. This and more on today's podcast!Exiles in Babylon

    What is Holiness? | Matt O'Reilly

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2025 46:38


    Matt O'Reilly joins us today to talk about his recent book Free to Be Holy: A Biblical Theology of Sanctification.  What does the Bible teach us about holiness? How can the broader Evangelical community learn from historically Methodist theologies of sanctification? How can ecclesial styles of theological writing serve pastors and congregations as they work through topics like this one? This and more on today's podcast!Exiles in Babylon

    A Vision of Freedom | Brad Littlejohn

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2025 49:36


    Brad Littlejohn joins the podcast today to talk about his new book, Called to Freedom: Retrieving Christian Liberty in an Age of License. What is human "freedom"? Where do American theological, moral, and political concepts of freedom and liberty come from? How do Scripture and our culture view "freedom" differently, and how can pastors help the Church's ability to think Biblically about "freedom"? This and more on today's podcast!Exiles in Babylon

    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Steve Turnbull

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2025 47:52


    Steve Turnbull joins the podcast to share his journey of becoming a pastor and Biblical scholar. As a pastor theologian, Steve has worked to develop a rich Biblical narrative imagination. Today, he serves as a senior pastor of Upper Arlington Lutheran Church in Ohio, as well as the provost and professor of New Testament at The Master's Institute in Minnesota. Exiles in Babylon

    Critical Theory | Carl Trueman

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2025 32:58


    We are excited to have Carl Trueman on the podcast today. Carl discusses his some of his recent books, including To Change All Worlds: Critical Theory from Marx to Marcuse, which provides an introductory intellectual history of Critical Theory, primarily non-polemically. In this episode, Carl walks us through the key figures and orienting ideas of Frankfurt School and Critical Theory. What is the connection between Critical Theory and Critical Race Theory? How can pastors steward the church's confession as they help congregations navigate their contexts which may be influenced by these ideas? This and more on today's episode. Exiles in Babylon

    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Aaron Friesen

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2025 46:14


    Aaron Friesen joins the podcast today to share his story of becoming a pastor theologian. Aaron describes how, in part though his seminary education at Fuller, he developed a vision and sense of calling for integrating theological education and service to the local church within his pentecostal tradition. Today, Aaron serves at CitySalt church in Eugene, OR and teaches in an adjunct capacity. 

    The Fantastical Fiction of C.S. Lewis | Ryhs Laverty

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2025 50:15


    Today we are joined on the podcast by Ryhs Laverty as we discuss Life on the Silent Planet: Essays on Christian Living from C.S. Lewis's Ransom Trilogy  (Davenant Institute, 2024). This volume, edited by Laverty, is a collection of essays highlighting Lewis's insights on topics such as gender, contraception, bureaucracy, and transhumanism, as he wove them into the Ransom Trilogy. What questions does Lewis explore in his fiction that are pastorally relevant in our context today? How can the Ransom Trilogy continue to inform Christian living? This and more on today's podcasts!

    Mary Magdalene, Apostle to the Apostles | Jennifer McNutt

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2025 44:38


    Jennifer Powell McNutt joins the podcast once again to discuss her recent book, The Mary We Forgot: What the Apostle to the Apostles Teaches the Church Today (Brazos Press 2024). Mary Magdalene's story has often been undervalued and confused, in part due to what Jennifer calls the "muddle of Marys" in the Gospels. What can we gain by a more careful analysis of Mary's story? How can we be served by approaching the biblical text with a "hermeneutic of surprise"? How can Mary Magdalene serve as a model for Christian discipleship today? This and more on today's podcast. 

    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Matthew LaPine

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2025 48:30


    Matthew LaPine joins the podcast to share his journey of faith through mental health challenges in his family and more. How can "playing the long game" shape our perspective as we navigate life's challenges? This and more on today's episode!

    Augustine, Humility, and Preaching | Charles G Kim

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2025 45:13


    Charles (Chad) Kim joins the podcast to talk about his book, The Way of Humility: St. Augustine's Theology of Preaching. How is Augustine's theology and specifically the virtue of humility reflected in Augustine's Sermon? Hear this and more on today's episode.  

    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Ryan Jackson

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2025 51:36


    Ryan joins the podcast today to share his story, including his background in the Pentecostal tradition. Find out how that tradition has shaped him as a pastor theologian. Further, how can we learn from themes of doubt, deconstruction, and anti-intellectualism? How do we think about these themes as ministry leaders? All this and more on today's podcast. 

    Peace | Jonathan Huggins

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2024 40:11


    Jonathan Huggins joins us on the podcast today with a sermon for the season of Advent reflecting on peace. How does the Gospel redefine shalom—peace—with God, within ourselves, and with others? How can we maintain relational and psychological rest in our souls when facing the anxiety-producing situations of our modern world? 

    What We're Reading — December 2024

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2024 41:34


    For our December episode on books, we, the CPT staff, have been reading (and, on this occasion, watching):JRR Tolkien, Return of the King, (1955)Mark A. Noll, The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind (1995)Stephen King, Carrie (1974)Cormac McCarthy, The Border Trilogy, (1999)Jennifer Ratner-Rosenhagen, American Nietzsche: A History of an Icon and His Idea, 2011Bonhoeffer: Pastor. Spy. Assassin. (2024)

    Church and Caesar in Acts 17 | Chris Ganski

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2024 43:51


    Today, Chris Ganski shares a sermon on Acts 17:1-9. In the wake of the 2024 election, the book of Acts can be an excellent resource to consider the relationship between church and politics. In the context of Acts 17, does Caesar have anything to fear from the church? What is the church, and what does it mean to belong to the church? How does the church's identity influence our understanding of the gospel as political? This and more on today's podcast. 

    Pastoring Post-Election | Caleb Campbell

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 26, 2024 55:47


    Pastor Caleb Campbell joins the podcast to discuss how pastors might guide their congregations through the results of the 2024 election, drawing from his experience pastoring in Phoenix, AZ. He also discusses his book "Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor." How can we helpfully engage those in their community who align with combative political perspectives? How can pastors support members who are struggling to have conversations with family members, or for whom the election stirs up difficult emotions? This and more on today's episode. 

    Reading Scripture Faithfully | Kevin Vanhoozer

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2024 45:23


    Kevin Vanhoozer joins us on the podcast this week to discuss his recent book, Mere Christian Hermeneutics: Transfiguring What It Means to Read the Bible Theologically. Christians across traditions and vocations have wondered what it means to read Scripture faithfully. Are there essential principles for reading the Bible as Scripture everywhere, at all times?  What does it mean to read the Bible “literally”, or to interpret the text theologically? How do we enter the presence of God as we read? All this and more on today's episode!

    What We're Reading — November 2024

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 4, 2024 40:45


    For our November episode on books, we, the CPT staff, have been reading:Claire Keegan, Small Things Like These (2021)James Davison Hunter, Democracy and Solidarity: On the Cultural Roots of America's Political Crisis (2024)Yuval Noah Harari, Nexus: A Brief History of Information Networks from the Stone Age to AI (2024)Kelly Kapic, You're Only Human: How Your Limits Reflect God's Design and Why That's Good News

    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Justin Allison

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2024 45:33


    We are joined on the podcast today by Justin Allison. Justin shares his story of faith and how the Lord has worked through different seasons in his life, from a bout with illness as a child, to serving as a hospital chaplain, and now in his current ministry context.  

    An Always-Reforming Church | Gavin Ortlund

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2024 48:31


    This week, Gavin Ortlund joins us to discuss his recent book “What It Means to Be Protestant: The Case for an Always-Reforming Church.”  Many evangelicals have recently begun to explore more sacramental and liturgical church traditions, such as Eastern Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism. What underlying desires drive this renewed interest? Can these desires only be met outside of Protestantism? How can the strengths of historical Protestantism aid us when wrestling with issues like the authority of Scripture? What role do platforms like YouTube play in these conversations? All this and more in this week's episode!

    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Cory Wilson

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2024 52:07


    Cory Wilson joins the podcast to tell his story of becoming a pastor theologian. He shares about his work as a missionary in West Africa and how that significantly shaped the trajectory of his life and ministry. What is the nature of theology? Why do we pursue it? And why does it find its home in the church?

    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Nathan Chang

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2024 43:33


    Nathan Chang joins the podcast to tell his story about becoming a Pastor Theologian. Nathan shares about his experiencing growing up with deaf parents and in a deaf church and the impact that had on his vision of and for the church. He explains his journey of faith, his passion for the word of God, and his journey of education and ministry. 

    From Ideology to Identity – Tim Keller and the Post-Christian Right | Collin Hansen

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2024 41:25


    Collin Hansen, Editor-in-Chief of the Gospel Coalition, reflects on the political vision and legacy of Tim Keller. Politics is not the first subject anyone would associate with the life and work of pastor Tim Keller. And yet when you review his teaching, you find someone who may have written more deeply and insightfully about politics than any other contemporary pastor. In this session, Hansen explains what Keller believed the American church should do as politics increasingly shift from ideology to identity politics.This is the first talk from the CPT's 2024 conference Kingdom Politics.

    Commendable Conduct | Ryan Fields

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2024 48:56


    Ryan Fields joins the podcast again to share a sermon he preached on 1 Peter 2:12, calling the church to pursue commendable conduct "among the Gentiles" in the turmoil of a divisive moment in America's public and ecclesial life. What does God call us, the church, to pursue, both among fellow believers and in the public sphere?

    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Chris Ganski

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2024 47:00


    Chris Ganski shares his story of faith and ministry in one of our Becoming a Pastor Theologian episodes. He shares how his journey has been a series of continuing conversions towards deeper faith and how the Lord worked through various experiences to lead him to the pastorate. How does a PhD relate to pastoral ministry? How can a liberal academic context help to foster faithful evangelical witness? What does it look like to preach faithfully in a politically divided age? All this and more on this new episode.

    Learning the Art of Arts | Coleman Ford and Shawn J. Wilhite

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 2, 2024 47:19


    Coleman Ford and Shawn J. Wilhite join the podcast to discuss their recently published book Ancient Wisdom and the Care of Souls: Learning the Art of Pastoral Ministry from the Church Fathers (Crossway, 2024). They talk about why the wrote the book and the need that it meets for busy pastors today. Why should we learn the art of soul care from the church Fathers? What corrections can they bring to contemporary models of pastoral ministry? What does riding a bike have to do with this conversation? All this and more on this week's new episode!

    To Be His Image and Bear His Name | Carmen Joy Imes

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2024 50:17


    Carmen Joy Imes joins the podcast to discuss her books Bearing God's Name and Being God's Image, as well as previewing what she will be talking about at this year's CPT conference Kingdom Politics. Carmen shares her story of faith, ministry, and education, as well as her heart to serve the church. What does it mean to be made as his image? What does it mean to bear his name? What might that mean for theology, ethics, politics? All this and more on this fascinating episode!

    Sabbath Rest and Release | Jack Franicevich

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2024 50:30


    Jack Franicevich, a parish priest in the Anglican Church of North America, joins the podcast to discuss his book, Sunday: Keeping Christian Time (Athanasius Press, 2023), that focuses on the nature of the Sabbath, what it means in the biblical narrative, and how the social imaginary of Christians might be formed by a deep understanding of the Sabbath. What does the Sabbath mean for rest? For the hope of Christians? For the rebuke of anti-God powers? All this and more on this new episode.

    A Praying Life | Dan Brendsel

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2024 45:19


    Dan Brendsel joins the podcast to discuss his recent book Answering Speech: The Life of Prayer as Response to God (Crossway, 2023). Paul commands the church to "pray without ceasing." What does that mean? In what ways do we misunderstand prayer? How might reframing prayer as a whole-life response reform and renew the lives of the saints and the life the church? All this and more on this new episode.

    Walking the Text – Brad Gray

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2024 32:59


    Joel is joined by Brad Gray, CEO of Walking the Text, a non-profit organization that specalizes in helping pastors and Christians understand the cultural, linguistic, and literary context of the Bible. What are the "lenses of context" for reading scripture? How does understanding this context correctly enable Christians to live out the vision of scripture and be conformed to Christ?SPONSOR: The Living Church, The Human Pilgrimage Conferencelivingchurch.org/eventsUse code "CPT" for 10% registration.

    What We're Reading — July 2024

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2024 44:43


    For our July episode on books, we, the CPT staff, have been reading:Jonathan Haidt, The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness (2024)Stephen King, 'Salem's Lot (1975)Cynthia L. Haven, Evolution of Desire: A Life of René Girard (2018)

    Ballots, the Bible, and the Witness of the Church

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 22, 2024 54:22


    Kaitlyn Schiess joins the podcast to talk about her recent book The Ballot and the Bible: How Scripture Has Been Used and Abused in American Politics and Where We Go from Here (Brazos, 2023). She shares her background of education and how she began interacting with the question of the relationship between church and state, Christians and the politics of the world. What makes America a "Bible haunted nation"? Should Christians think of their nation as a "city on a hill"? What gifts can careful readers of Scripture offer to the contemporary political realm? All this on more on this new episode!This episode sponsored by The After Party.

    The American Church in Crisis | Russell Moore

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2024 42:33


    Russell Moore, Editor-in-Chief of Christianity Today, joins the podcast to talk about his journey of faith, major influences on his faith, and current reflections on the state of American Evangelicalism. Why is fiction so profoundly impactful on his thinking? Why is the American church prone to cultural nominalism and pragmatism? What does the American church need to repent of and convert to? What is the biblical meaning of hope? All this and more on this new episode!

    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Ryan Fields

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2024 48:59


    Ryan Fields, senior pastor of Faith Evangelical Free Church, joins the podcast to tell his story of coming to faith and his journey of education and ministry. 

    Rock-bound Pulpits | Matt O'Reilly

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2024 57:41


    Matt O'Reilly joins the podcast to discuss and share the presentation he gave at the Reconstructing Methodism conference earlier this spring, explaining why the new Global Methodist church needs to be firmly planted on strong theological rock, with pastor theologians doing the necessary hard building work. In his presentation he focuses on why the task of preaching is necessarily theological, challenging pastors to lead their congregations from the pulpit with theological depth and conviction.

    Unity in a Divisive Age

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2024 47:00


    Richard Lints joins the podcast to discuss his recent book Uncommon Unity: Wisdom for the Church in an Age of Division (Lexham 2022). Pressing into the given difference that exists, he argues for a deeper unity funded by the inclusion narrative of the gospel. Lints calls for a renewed unity that doesn't march according to the orders of the cultural calls for unity that prevail today. What kind of unity does the gospel achieve? Why do cultural calls for unity so often fail? Where should the church look as it seeks to navigate the exclusion and inclusion narratives of the present day? All this and more on this episode.

    The Holy Spirit and the Church | Gregg Allison

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2024 48:11


    Gregg Allison joins the podcast to talk about his journey of faith and ministry and his theological work on the Holy Spirit. He discusses common misperceptions about the Holy Spirit, encouraging believers to think about the Spirit as the greatest gift God gives to his children. In what ways do we make the Spirit the potentiator of our own works? How can we listen to the guidance of the Spirit? What does it mean to preach in step with the Spirit? All this and more on this new episode.

    Tim Keller as Public Theologian | Collin Hansen

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2024 49:25


    Collin Hansen joins the podcast to discuss Tim Keller's legacy as a public theologian and his work in New York City to both a modern and orthodox Christian, engaging the world and seeking the good of the city. We address such questions as the influences on Tim Keller's vision for public engagement, his drawing together of diverse traditions, and what pastors can learn today from his ministry.

    Babylon, Politics, and the Church | Preston Sprinkle

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2024 48:43


    Preston Sprinkle joins the podcast to talk about his recent book Exiles: The Church in the Shadow of Empire, to discuss a biblical theology of Christian engagement with politics, and to preview his upcoming contribution to the CPT conference. Why is it so easy to mingle ecclesiology and politics? Why is this a matter for Christian discipleship? What does it mean for the church to be a political identity? What is the posture of "submissive resistance" that might help the church think about its role in the world? All this on more on this new episode!

    Engaging the World as Pilgrims | Gayle Doornbos

    Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2024 50:46


    Gayle Doornbos joins the podcast to talk about her journey of faith and education and current ministry at Dordt University.  Gayle brings us into conversation with Herman Bavinck and the importance of his work as a theologian who sits patiently with Scripture and the tradition as he works to apply theology to his own day, helping us learn what it means to live before the face of God. We discuss such questions as how might Neo-Calvinism help us navigate present questions of church and state? What does it mean for Christians to engage the world in the mode of pilgrims? How can we retrieve the tradition faithfully? All this and much more on this episode!

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