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In this episode, we sit down with Matt Crouse, the host of the acclaimed The Working Drummer podcast, to unpack the secrets behind his show's incredible 500-episode milestone. Matt shares insights on building meaningful relationships in the music industry, the art of networking, and the importance of specializing as a musician. He also discusses the evolving landscape of home recording, session work, and the vibrant drumming community in Nashville. Whether you're a drummer, a podcaster, or an aspiring creative, this conversation is packed with invaluable lessons on building a sustainable career. Tune in to discover the strategies that have made The Working Drummer podcast a resounding success.   Some Things Things That Came Up:  -1:00 Gifts! -3:30 500 Episodes of The Working Drummer Podcast -7:00 Being Thoughtful and hand written thank you notes -8:45 It doesn't take much to stand out these days  -10:30 Moving AWAY from home made all the difference! -11:45 Working at Jim Rupp's Columbus Pro Percussion -13:00 Covering all the styles in Columbus, Ohio  -13:20 Going to school with Jay DeMarcus  -16:00 Working at Fork's Drum Closet. Retail or Play?  -19:30 Matt works out!!! -22:30 A Big Fish in a Little Big Town  -26:00 Standing on the shoulder of giants  -30:40 Drummers are in a PRACTICE, like a doctor or a lawyer -34:00 Working with the Frontmen of Country Music  -37:00 “The Road” vs. “In Town” -41:50 Click vs. No Click  -46:00 Creating musical moments under pressure  -47:00 Lower Broadway is a source of experience -54:00 When you move to Nashville, you are STARTING a business  -56:30 Start a Podcast!!! Keeps your name front of mind with people -57:30 Savannah Jack -1:02 Home Studio Pricing and Psychology  -1:05:40 Relationships! -1:11:20 Looking back on the humble beginnings of Matt's podcast  -1:12:50 Co-Host Zach Albetta! -1:15:00 The skill of hosting  -1:26:00 Advertisers and dynamic ads on podcasts -1:28:00 The Music City Drum Show  -1:29:50 The Fave 5 -1:30:00 Bassist Luis Espaillat crashes the podcast!  1:32:40 THE Tribute band  FOLLOW: www.mattcrouse.net www.workingdrummer.net    Born and raised in Columbus Ohio, Matt caught the music bug early. When he was 7 years old, a friend's father was in the entertainment business. Hanging out at rehearsals and on the tour buses sold Matt on the idea of being a musician, or at the very least, a drummer. All this lead to spending his high school years at Fort Hayes vocational school for music and Capital University Conservatory of Music for college studying under drum instructor Bob Breithaupt. The musical diversity in Columbus gave Matt the chance to play with many great players and learning many different styles – from Big Band (Vaughn Weister's Famous Jazz Orchestra) and Brazilian to Afro-Cuban and Fusion. All the while, he was doing his share of gigs with original rock bands and top 40 bands. Matt moved to Nashville in the summer of 1999. Working as a freelance drummer based in Nashville has taken him to all 50 states in the U.S. and most of Canada, as well as overseas to Europe, Asia, The Middle East and The Caribbean. As well as the Grand Ole Opry in Nashville, Matt has performed in great local venues like the Ryman Auditorium, Mercy Lounge, 3rd and Lindsley, The 5 Spot, The Sutler, The Basement, The Wildhorse Saloon, and many clubs on lower Broadway.  Matt has toured both regionally and nationally, with the Adam and Shannon Wright, Mark Selby, Eddy Raven, Billy Dean, Stephen Simmons, Three Lane, Whiskey Cash & Roses, Michelle Wright - (throughout Canada), Julie Roberts, and The Frontmen of Country which is Larry Stewart of Restless Heart, Richie McDonald of Lonestar, Tim Rushlow of Little Texas. From 2009 to 2017 Matt was the full time drummer for the band Savannah Jack. He played percussion on their first studio record in 2010 opposite Steve Ferrone on drums. For their second studio record in 2015, Matt was the drumset and percussion player in the studio. In the studio, Matt has had the pleasure of working with talented producers including Eric Fritsch, Teddy Morgan, Jim Reilley and Brent Maher. Artist he's recorded with in the studio have included Sheryl Crow, legendary songwriter Buzz Cason and actor Kevin Costner. In 2015, Matt started a podcast for drummers called "Working Drummer", an interview based podcast that maintains a focus on the drummer that makes a living at his or her craft. Along with the help of co-host Zack Albetta, the podcast has a growing audience throughout the world with more listeners every week. www.workingdrummer.net   *******SUBSCRIBE/RATE/REVIEW!!! www.richredmond.com/listen     The Rich Redmond Show is about all things music, motivation and success. Candid conversations with musicians, actors, comedians, authors and thought leaders about their lives and the stories that shaped them. Rich Redmond is the longtime drummer with Jason Aldean and many other veteran musicians and artists. Rich is also an actor, speaker, author, producer and educator. Rich has been heard on thousands of songs, over 25 of which have been #1 hits!   Rich can also be seen in several films and TV shows and has also written an Amazon Best-Selling book, "CRASH! Course for Success: 5 Ways to Supercharge Your Personal and Professional Life" currently available at:   https://www.amazon.com/CRASH-Course-Success-Supercharge-Professional/dp/B07YTCG5DS/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=crash+redmond&qid=1576602865&sr=8-1   One Book: Three Ways to consume....Physical (delivered to your front door, Digital (download to your kindle, ipad or e-reader), or Audio (read to you by me on your device...on the go)!   Buy Rich's exact gear at www.lessonsquad.com/rich-redmond   Follow Rich: @richredmond www.richredmond.com     Jim McCarthy is the quintessential Blue Collar Voice Guy. 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Tommy Thomas: Three years ago, I started a tradition on the podcast. I'm interviewing someone from the music industry for the episode being released the week of Christmas. My logic is that most people probably aren't doing much professional development this week. And rather than not have a release, I would default to something that is near and dear to my heart. I started taking piano lessons when I was seven. In high school, I played in a local garage band. In college, I sang folk music, and, in my twenties, I sang with a bluegrass group in Birmingham. In fact, one of the things on my bucket list is to play a set with the cover group, Jay and the Elders from Birmingham. So, Jim Blackman, if you're listening, I'm waiting on my invitation. Our guest this week is Dr. David Tolley, the Associate Professor and Director of The Music Industry Program at Delaware State University. David is a very talented composer, arranger, producer, and instructor. I believe you're going to love his story.​ [00:01:08] Tommy Thomas: Before we take too deep of a dive into your professional career, take us back into your childhood. What's your happiest memory? [00:01:17] David Tolley: Happiest memories of childhood. I'm one of eight kids. I'm number seven. And we were born, not really on a farm, but in Dublin, Ohio. [00:01:25] David Tolley: We had an apple orchard, chicken coop, and things like that, but it wasn't a full fledged farm. But we used to play Cowboys and Indians, hide and go seek. And playing with all my brothers and sisters probably was one of my favorite memories. [00:01:39] Tommy Thomas: What about the gifts your parents gave you? What's the greatest gift you remember? [00:01:44] David Tolley: Greatest gift or appearance? Probably the electric football game where you put the players on there and the game vibrates. Yeah. That was that. I had to think about that. I haven't thought about that in a long time yet. [00:01:56] Tommy Thomas:: Wow. We had one of those that was fun. [00:01:58] Tommy Thomas: Yeah. And what was high school like? [00:02:01] David Tolley: I went to Worthington High School, and it was great. I wasn't in the marching band or the choir because I was a pianist, and in junior year, Columbus started a brand-new performing arts school called Fort Hayes, and it was modeled after the one in New York and then one went down into Dallas. So it was experiential Columbus and it's still going, but went there my junior and senior year and half of the day to Worthington. So it was a lot of fun. I started composing for some theater things and other things. And I was valedictorian of the class when I graduated. But the only regret I have about that is I cut off my social life from my high school friends. Because I went down there at noontime and then was downtown Columbus. And you know how after high school, a lot of people, they have afterschool activities, and I was out of town. [00:02:56] Tommy Thomas: Yeah. I guess when you enrolled in Ohio State you knew you were into music by then. [00:03:01] David Tolley Yeah, I played sports, Tommy, and believe it or not, I used to play football and was quarterback and I played basketball and baseball, but I didn't grow to be huge, you know, like 6' 2”, 6' 3”. And so it started to hurt in middle school. So I got back into music heavy and I was just practicing all the time and I was lucky to get this pianist, Richard Telly Curtis, and he was head of the piano division at Ohio State and I got him in high school. I don't know how I got him. But he said he took me because I had a good smile. I don't know. I practiced all the time and that's performing arts school. They just kind of let me go and I would go down to the practice rooms and just practice all my whole time there. So I entered Ohio State and got a double bachelor's in piano performance and composition, and then got my master's in theory and composition before I moved out to Los Angeles. [00:03:55] Tommy Thomas: Had you started your PhD before you moved to Los Angeles? [00:03:58] David Tolley: Yeah, back then we were on the quarter system, so I had the first quarter and then I thought, wow, I'm only 21 or 22, I think. And I'm like, I'm doing my doctorate in music. I got into music to perform and to compose, mostly compose. So I thought, and I talked to my mom and I was playing at a church, Liberty Presbyterian Church, all through college and stuff. [00:04:22] David Tolley: They didn't want me to go and my mom of course didn't want me to go, but she actually gave me her blessing and packed up my rabbit and moved out to Los Angeles. [00:04:31] Tommy Thomas: Wow. Yeah, I can see Los Angeles. Back then, Nashville wasn't in the scene. I guess it would've been LA or New York probably your two options. What was the early days like in Los Angeles as a fledgling musician? [00:04:45] David Tolley: Yeah, it was scary. I tell these stories to my students because they have the itch in them, these young college kids, and I'm like, you know what, if it's really on your heart and you're passionate about it, you gotta try it now because you might be regretful later on. So I was scared to be honest, and because I only knew one person out there. I took every other thing I had in a VW Rabbit and I went to North Hollywood, and that was the year that they had Richard Ramirez, the Hillside strangler, and then all of the freeway shootings. I was like, what did I do? But after about a year, it settled in and I was fine. [00:05:25] Tommy Thomas: I'm going to probably not remember the details from how you told it years ago, but as I remember you told me that your brother came out to visit you one Christmas and y'all ended up at the Johnny Carson Show. Can you fill in the details there and tell our viewers a little bit about that? [00:05:42] David Tolley: Okay. So being one of eight kids, I was number seven, and my youngest brother was number eight. We pretty much grew up without a dad and so my mom thought, this is David's first Christmas away from home. And Christmas was a big thing, eight kids and the Christmas tree and gifts. So she was very wise and sent my youngest brother out to visit me. And for a week we went to the beach, we went to all these different things. The Hollywood Stars, Beverly Hills houses, went to where the Lakers played and everything. And then he had the idea to go, hey, can we go to The Tonight Show?  I don't know how to do that. [00:06:20] David Tolley: It was like his last day. And so he called up and he said, all you have to do is show up in line in Burbank and wait outside. So, we did after we had gone to the beach all day, and then we walk inside and we got in barely. And we were about three quarters of the way back in the audience. And it was Johnny's last show before he went on Christmas break the next day. And it was a Friday night, I think it was December 19th, 1985. And Johnny comes out with no preparation during the monologue, he said, you know what, you're all in the Christmas spirit, and we have a dilemma tonight. We scheduled this beautiful nine-foot Steinway piano that we had imported in for the classical pianist, Ori Gutierrez, who won the Van Clyburn Award. And the only thing is, he nipped his fingers because he shut his hand in the car door accidentally. His career's not hurt. But he doesn't feel like playing. And so, we have a dilemma. I'll let you know after the commercial break what we're going to do. And so he comes back, he goes, you know what? We're going to try something we've never done before. Is there anyone in the audience that plays a piano? And so I didn't even know what was going on. My brother raises my hand and before I know it, I have a Nike T-shirt and jeans and flip flops, and I'm playing on a nine foot Steinway for 28 million people. [00:07:42] Tommy Thomas: Wow. I'm just thinking what was going through Carson's mind. My gosh what a mistake it could have been. [00:07:49] David Tolley: Yeah, he actually mentioned that. Actually you can see it on YouTube. He says, wow, this could have been a real bomb. And actually, he picked a woman to go first and she played silver bells and she was good. And but he said, just in case she lays a bomb, is there someone else?  And that's when he picked me. [00:08:08] David Tolley: He was pretty amazed of the crowd's reaction.  [00:08:12] David Tolley: He put his hands up the air like, I don't believe this, so it was fun. I didn't know Tommy; I didn't know I was playing for all these people. It was kind of like a dream. I went up there, I was smiling and, back in Ohio, for the church for years, and then I used to play a lot of parties, so I thought, oh, this is fun. I'll just start playing. I didn't know all those 28 million people were watching, so I was winking at the audience. I pretended I had tuxedo on. I was just goofing off. I was a little clowned, but I guess the audience really liked that. [00:08:45] Tommy Thomas: So everybody can Google I guess David Tally the Tonight Show and you can see the YouTube of this. So what did you play? How did you think about it, or did you just go up and just start playing? [00:08:58] David Tolley: I must've been on autopilot because I barely remember the show. I know it happened, but we only had a minute to think. And so I though, the Cats was real popular at the time, the musical, so I said, how about Memories from Cats? He goes, oh, that's great. And I went up and played. [00:09:17] David Tolley: After I got done, you can see on the video, the audience was just clapping and roaring. And I touched Johnny's hand, oh wow, that worked out. And so yeah, it was fun. Johnny was super nice to me. Both shows. I left and they got my name and number and stuff like that. And I went with my brother back to my little studio apartment in North Hollywood and he was like, he kept on hitting me in the arm going, did that really happen? Did that really happen? So, it was a great way to end the week with my younger brother and actually my dad's mom, Grace , who I partially dedicated Amazing Grace, my variation, and she had never seen me play the piano and she was 92 at the time. She lived to be 99. My whole family got to watch it. My grandmother that never saw me play got to see it. So it was neat. +++++++++++++= [00:10:12] Tommy Thomas: So, what did you play on your second appearance? [00:10:15] David Tolley: They called, they had lost my number somehow, so they put a search team out because Johnny came back and Grant Tinker was the CEO of NBC. And he called Johnny the next day. He says, boy, that was great planning that kid on the show. Johnny goes no. I didn't plan it. I just took a chance. He goes, what? So he said, we have to have him back. We have all these letters and phone calls. We gotta let them know. And so Johnny goes, yeah, that'd be great. So they actually called me and I was in North Hollywood. I answered the phone. I still remember, it was lunchtime. They said, hey we have so many letters and phone calls. We really have to have you back on the show so we can explain to the audience this is really what happened. I actually said no. I said, I'm a composer. I'd be too nervous. He said, yeah, but what you just played on there? I'm like, yeah, I didn't know was going on. [00:11:07] David Tolley: So they said, let me call you back after lunch. And I still remember, Tommy, I got my little can of Chicken Noodle soup, Campbells, and I cooked it and put it on my spoon. I could not even keep a noodle on my spoon. I was shaking. So, I had a week to think and I thought, you know what? This is a great opportunity to give glory to God, and do my theme and variations on amazing grace. I wrote it for the church when I left because they had a wide variety of people that some liked pop, some like gospel, some like straight hymnals, some like country, some like jazz. I thought, you know what, it's all music to me as a composer. It's just an attitude of the heart. And so, I did my theme and variations on Amazing Grace as a gift to them. And for my gram Grammy Grace. And so I played that and Johnny, at first they thought, oh, that might be too religious. And actually Johnny said no - let him play what he wants to play. And anyway, so that's what I played. [00:12:08] Tommy Thomas: Wow. And what was the immediate aftermath of that? Did you see any uptick in any opportunities to record or to write? [00:12:17] David Tolley: Yeah, I got to see the great side of Hollywood, and the bad side. Because I had like agents, managers, it was so confusing. From a little town, at the time it was a small town, a suburb of Columbus and I didn't know anything about the music business. I had what, three degrees and started my doctorate, but I didn't have one music business course. Nothing about contracts or intellectual property or anything.  [00:12:40] David Tolley: I was very confused and the White House saw it and they said, we would like you to play at Easter time at the White House. I'm like, okay. And I was actually the MC for the Easter Fest. I actually showed up at the White House and they booked a hotel and brought me in. They said, you know what? We know you're playing and performing, but we'd like you to be the MC. And they handed me a script. I'm like, I wish you guys would've told me. But anyway, so a lot of things like that. I tried out for some movie parts. Madonna and Michael Jackson's manager had a record deal that they were working on, which didn't work because, like I said I saw the good and the bad and a lot of things like that. A lot of projects, some TV and film projects that I did. [00:13:28] Tommy Thomas: As I remember for a while, weren't you Mayor Bradley's pianist of record for a lot of his parties? [00:13:36] David Tolley: Oh wow. Yes. Wow. I haven't heard that name in a long time. Yeah I did. Even though I was out there as a composer, I still was a pianist, and I would still play on people's albums. A lot of rock bands that were signed that didn't have people or players. I was a studio musician that would come in and play and in between projects, if it was a cartoon or scoring an anime film or TV show. I did a lot of stuff for ABC, CNBC and CBS. But there are gaps. There are gaps in between projects, so I always kept up my playing. So, I was playing at the Bel Air Country Club for years, and I played, which when you're out in the public Mayor Bradley saw me and I played so many functions for him. And I played Muhammad Ali's birthday party and I'll never forget it. Muhammad came up and his Parkinson's had set in and he came up to the piano during his birthday, and he wrote me a poem. He was shaking and he was always one of my favorite athletes of all time. And then just a lot of parties and things because they're just people that happen to live out there. And since I'm out in the public I did a bunch of parties for Clint Eastwood and I remember one party in Malibu that I was sitting, it was just a cliff with nothing but glass, looking at the ocean. And I'm like, okay, I'm showing up for this birthday party. So out there and all of a sudden right next to me is Walter Mattau. Right behind me is Gregory Peck, Jack Lemon, Marlon Brando. I'm like, what's going on here? And it was a birthday party for their acting coach, Stella Adler. So it was a party, and I played Hello Dolly for Carol Channing to sing. And my mom would've been in heaven if she would've been there. So yeah, I had a lot of neat experiences like that. [00:15:29] Tommy Thomas:  And then somewhere along the way you got connected with Disney. [00:15:33] David Tolley: And that actually wasn't a result of the Tonight Show. That was, I forget how many years later, five or six years later. Because all that hype and everything slowed down. My phone was off the hook. I was like, oh boy. Yeah, I didn't know what to do. And I probably made a lot of bad decisions. [00:15:54] David Tolley: But I finally settled down to be a composer and play in between. And Disney got ahold of one of my first CDs and they were doing a new park in Paris or Euro Disney. And they took the music from Frontier, Leanne? I forget the land shoot. This is terrible. Anyway, tomorrow land and, this is a brand-new park, and they wanted a brand new lands called Discovery Land. And so it had all these explorers and things like Jules Verne and thing themed rights. I was lucky that out of, I don't know, hundreds or thousands of composers that wanted to do the theme music for this land, I got the job. So I did a two hour soundtrack for piano and orchestra. And it still plays. It opened in 1992 and I still see my, it's not great royalties, but it's, yeah, I'm not going to turn them down. Every quarter I see royalties from my music that's playing 18 hours a day. [00:16:55] Tommy Thomas: So, looking back on the Southern California portion, what's your biggest takeaway? [00:17:03] David Tolley: That's a good question. Just, probably hang on to God, hang the thick and the thin though it wasn't always great times. There were sometimes it was very thin, and I bought a house in Woodland Hills, started having kids and those were great years and then there was some thin years. But God's grace was with me the whole time, and it's exciting. It's not for everybody. In fact, my younger brother moved out there, a lot of friends moved out there. They saw the hype, and within a year they moved out because it's like a concrete jungle. And you have to love the creativity. That's what I liked about it. And it's not for everybody. +++++++++++++= [00:17:45] Tommy Thomas:  What brought you back east and how did you decide it was time to finish that doctorate? [00:17:52] David Tolley: Good question. So basically, I told my mom when I started my doctorate and when I was making that decision to move out to LA, I'm like, I will finish this. I will finish. I wanted to be a brain surgeon, I ended up going into music. So, I said, Mom, I will be a doctor. And I still remember that conversation. So my wife, we had four kids and we were out in Los Angeles. We had a house, a pool, a studio, and she got cancer. And she was from Ohio too and she had a cancer called MOC Sarcoma, a soft tissue cancer. [00:18:26] David Tolley: So, it was an extremely hard decision because the kids had all their friends in middle school and stuff like that. We had a great setup. I was finally out there living, and doing what I love to do, but thought, it's pretty serious stage four cancer. So we moved back to be with her family, my family and the support. She fought it for a good three and a half years and then passed. [00:18:50] Tommy Thomas: How did you, as someone that's never had that kind of experience, how did you get through that? [00:18:56] David Tolley: Oh, it was all God. It really was God. And it's funny that, through most of life, at least for me, it's a pretty constant relationship. But in those very trying times, it's almost like you can hear him breathe. I mean it's very real and that's really what kept me going. Prayer, the church and support. [00:19:18] Tommy Thomas:  You finished your doctorate; you became that doctor that you had promised your mom. [00:19:22] David Tolley: Right. [00:19:23] Tommy Thomas: So now you're on the faculty at Delaware State. Tell us about that. I guess you commute from Columbus to the campus periodically or regularly. [00:19:32] David Tolley: You'd think I was a nut, I probably was, but I moved back to LA, finished, and I thought, Mom, I'm not in an entertainment town anymore. I have to think of a living now. So, I finished my doctorate, and I started Ohio State Music Industry Program from textbook stuff and then real live street knowledge that I gained out there. [00:19:52] David Tolley: The only thing is they started it and everything and built the studios. Boom. And it came time to get the director of the music industry program and I already started the curriculum and everything. They had a new director and I guess they went by the rules. I had one quarter left to go or two and they were doing a search, and they couldn't hire someone unless they had already been an assistant associate, an associate. They wanted a director and I was just finishing up my doctorate so I couldn't even be on the table. My faculty was furious, but that was a hard blow to me. And I finished up and I thought, you know what? I guess I just gotta keep on looking. I've had four or five job offers. One in New Orleans. One was in the Midwest, like in Indiana. I forget the name of the school. But Delaware State, I could fly there to Baltimore in one hour and commute. You thought, why don't you move the family there? If you remember, I moved the family home to bite the cancer. Because they have a great cancer center at Ohio State. And I did that every Monday into Thursday for 10 years. Every single week. I flew there and then now after Covid. I talked to the Dean, and I was full professor now and with tenure, so I was able to say things like this. I was like, I can't travel like this anymore. I'm too old. This airport thing, and Covid, so they made me a deal that I come at the beginning, the end and in the middle. And the rest of the time I'm home. [00:21:31] Tommy Thomas:  I do a lot of work in higher ed, and I ask all my higher ed people this question. What was the greatest lesson that you learned through Covid that you think you'll take forward in your career? [00:21:43] David Tolley: It's being a global world in and with the way broadband is and connections. It took a while to get used to online teaching, and some of my students really like it because they can stay in their apartment or dorm and listen and but sometimes they really miss the one-on-one contact, at least showing them something in the studio or at the piano. But it seems like the tools are getting better and I do all my pro tools and other things. I share my screen, they can hear it, they see it, things like that. But just the question about AI and everything, I still think, that human heart, spirit, that's hard to put into computer code. [00:22:31] Tommy Thomas: I know you're not a conductor but you probably own the fringes of conducting.  I'd like to ask you to respond to this quote from Ben Zander, the Boston Philharmonic. He says, the conductor doesn't make a sound. The conductor's power depends upon his or her ability to make other people powerful. [00:22:51] David Tolley: Wow, that's a great quote. Yeah, there are great conductors and then there are beginning conductors and even at the bus in Symphony Hall when I saw Beethoven's ninth, it's amazing. There are great leaders. They're going through the same gestures of downbeats and expressiveness of dynamics and things like that, but they have such a charismatic power that kind of pulls energy out of the orchestra that they go to new heights that other people can't do. +++++++++++++++ [00:23:29] Tommy Thomas: Yeah. So I'd like to close out with a lightning round of questions. These are generally short answers, but sometimes not. Yeah. [00:23:38] David Tolley: Okay, I'll keep it short. [00:23:39] Tommy Thomas: What's been the greatest invention in your lifetime? [00:23:45] David Tolley: Probably the internet. [00:23:47] Tommy Thomas: What's the best compliment anybody's ever paid you? [00:23:55] David Tolley: I still get comments from that Tonight Show. In fact, I got three this morning. It's crazy. It was so long ago. But I remember a lady, her email, it is almost like you could see her cry. She was, I guess losing someone in the hospital and she would play that over and over for their family member and she said, I felt like you're playing that from heaven for us. [00:24:17] Tommy Thomas:   So if you could go back in time and tell a younger version of yourself one thing, what would that be? [00:24:28] David Tolley: Find what you're really passionate about. Spend some quiet time in prayer, away from the noise and screens. Once you have that down, educate yourself as much as you can, take chances, because God's going to be there with you. [00:24:45] Tommy Thomas: If you could meet any historical figure and ask them one question, who would it be and what would the question be? [00:24:56] David Tolley: My favorite composer of all time is Beethoven. So I would've loved to have met him and since he wrote the whole ninth Symphony in his head, and he was an outcast. People thought he was crazy, but he couldn't hear and he'd walk through town and he had a terrible childhood, but he kept on writing music and I'd love to know what kept him going. [00:25:17] Tommy Thomas:  What's the most worthwhile lesson you've learned so far in your career? [00:25:35] David Tolley: Boy, you just stumped me. I wrote a musical on Solomon, and it's never been mounted. And but one of the main themes of that is chasing the wind and you can have all this stuff, all these riches, all this stuff, but if you don't have God, it's nothing.  It's empty. ++++++++++++++++++++++= [00:25:51] Tommy Thomas: I hope you enjoyed this podcast. After we turned the recording button off David and I were talking and he told me that he is expecting one of his musicals to appear off Broadway sometime in the spring of 2024. If you want to bring some laughter to your day, watch the two YouTube clips of David's first and second appearances on the Johnny Carson Show. The first appearance will have you in stitches. Only Johnny Carson could do the setup like he did for David. I've included links to both appearances in the episode notes. January brings us to a new year for the podcast. And I'm pleased with the guests that we've lined up so far. Next week, our guest will be a man who's been the president of three different universities. One of these being a startup. He has a lot to share about leading institutions of higher education through the various stages of their life cycles.   Links & Resources JobfitMatters Website Next Gen Nonprofit Leadership with Tommy Thomas The Perfect Search – What every board needs to know about hiring their next CEO David Tolley's first appearance on the Johnny Carson (the Tonight) Show David Tolley's second appearance on the Johnny Carson (the Tonight) Show David Tolley's interview with Scott - the Piano Guy David Tolley's Interview - the 200 Year Anniversary of Liberty Presbyterian Church   Connect tthomas@jobfitmatters.com Follow Tommy on LinkedIn   Listen to Next Gen Nonprofit Leadership with Tommy Thomas on: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | Google Podcasts    

Welcome to this years first episode of the Mid-Week Mini Spook (MWMS) series. A series that preps all you weirdo's for Halloween. Every Wednesday in October, get your spooky fix as your host Alex tells small tales to surely leave a chill down your spine. Get ready for this years MWMS theme of Sinister Schools - a small trip into some of the haunted schools across the globe. Shout out to previous Patrons of Weird Distractions: Tom, Bailey, Angela, Jon, Alicia, Lynn, Shadow, Courtney, Cheryl, Susan, Jennifer and Kristin! Thank you for supporting Weird Distractions on Patreon. Resources for today's episode and previous episodes can be found here:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xm0SZhGt48CKnPqR0HeZtBv-oSWgdHN_pG8zqahhT_8/edit?usp=sharing Listener discretion is advised. If you want to provide feedback or even send in your own weird story to be read on air on an upcoming Listener Distractions episode - please email: weirddistractionspodcast@outlook.com. If you're listening on Apple Podcasts, please consider rating & reviewing. It's the best way to support the show (for free)! Want to rep some Weird Distractions merch? Check out the shows Bonfire site: https://www.bonfire.com/store/weird-distractions/  Weird Distractions is a proud member of the Cultiv8 network. Check out the other amazing shows that make up Cultiv8, here: https://cultiv8podcastnetwork.com/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From being told at birth that he would never be able to walk or talk, to watching her son become a high school graduate. Join Tyler Carter and Dr. Talisa Dixon as they are joined by Debra Johnson, mother of Zuri Johnson, as they discuss the incredible journey of her son's challenging life. Born only weighing 14 oz, and was 4 ½ months premature, Johnson is set to receive his high school diploma this upcoming spring at Fort Hayes Arts & Academics HS. This is an inspiring episode that you do not want to miss!

On this episode of the Post Podcast Fort Hays State University provost, Jill Arensdorf speaks about the direct benefits to the are provided by the university.   Transcript   James Bell  Fort Hays State University is more than just an education center for the region. It provides direct benefits to the community. Provost Jill Arensdorf stops by to talk a little bit about some of those benefits on this episode of the post podcast.   Jill Arensdorf  Obviously, the purpose of a Fort Hays State University and really higher education is to educate primarily our student population. However, we also have part of our mission to serve the public good. And many of our outreach programs and impact that we make in Kansas, specifically western Kansas, focus on what you called the impact of teaching and learning. And so I'll share just a few examples. And if you have questions about them, please please ask. But we have the fhsu Literacy Center. And that may be one that people aren't that familiar with, because it's relatively new is a partnership with the Hayes Masonic Lodge, and they're providing virtual and face to face helped area schools that need additional assistance in their reading skills. And this was really primarily due to the COVID 19 shutdown and some of the needs that came from that. And so this Literacy Center has, has risen and been created in the last year or so to provide that assistance that that students may need. In addition, you know, we've got great programs at Sternberg Museum and many people in the community and outside of the community and enjoy those educational outreach activities throughout the year. And then we have a gem in Great Bend with the Kansas wetlands Education Center. And that is connected to Fort Hays and folks might not realize that connection to Fort Hays and the educational opportunities that that provides.   James Bell  Yeah, that's something we talked about the events down there. And and I think that's one of those things. And I grew up near that region. I grew up in Stafford County. It is such a such a jewel down there. And it's really, you know, when you when I think about these events, you think about that drive, but my goodness, it's not that big of a deal, really, in the long run to get down there 45 minutes or so.   Jill Arensdorf  Yeah. And they've got I mean, they've got indoor and outdoor excursion activities and things going on all year. So I really hope that people can take advantage of that. You know, one other thing that if you drive through campus, many days, you won't see the maker van there but many days you will meet the maker van has programs for STEM. And so that maker van allows us to take our STEM show on the road so to speak, and and go into schools and communities to teach students about physics and science and using robots and the mobile planetarium and then our ever popular high altitude blond balloon experiments which go on pretty regularly throughout the year.   James Bell  Yeah, this stuff is so neat. I was I actually got to hang out with one of your Dean's Paul Adams the other day, the who's doing a robot session training session with some middle school teachers and may My goodness, how cool is this stuff? It's just, you know, and I'm pretty tech savvy, I'd like to thank but even the way that this is developing an education so quickly and rapidly, it's just It blows my mind.   Jill Arensdorf  Yeah, if we can get students excited about science at an early age through things like the maker band through things like Sternberg through things like the wetland center, they're more apt to maybe find that as a career path and passion as they choose higher education and a career. So I mean, there's obviously a reason for this outreach. And it's an important part of our mission at Fort Hays State University.   James Bell  Very cool. And that, you know, one other thing in that in that regard, we talked about the weekend center. I don't know that you want to talk a little bit about that one as well.   Jill Arensdorf  Yeah, it's relatively new. So this is a cooperation with USD 489. And the west central Kansas Special Education Cooperative, and several other regional school districts, and the Heartland Community Foundation, so a partnership with many entities. And it is a center where preschool and 18 to 21 year old transition programs occur where students are working with these populations preschool and then the 18 to 21 year olds, adults as they prepare to become teachers. And so it's just a, it's a unique new opportunity that for Hayes's has gotten involved in here in the local community, downtown, at the Hadleys at the Hadley old Hadley hospital, that Hadley building, and it has been a fantastic partnership thus far to create opportunities both for our students to learn but also to impact the community. Very cool.   James Bell  Yeah. And in schools, those economic are about I mean, educational opportunities are there's also some real economic benefits to having the university here and we hear about the Small Business Development Center and you know, Management Development Center as well. And I think that's a huge way that Fort Hays can help and especially right now with so many people going remote work and looking at those kind of things are working for themselves. It's got to have like a tremendous benefit on the area.   Jill Arensdorf  It is and you know, for higher education specifically for Hey, does make an impact on our business and economic development, as you said, and so, through the pandemic, and as we've come out of it, the Small Business Development Center and our management development center, have pivoted, and then they've grown from that and and have expanded their services and expanded the way that they're serving the western Kansas population. So I'll just give you a couple of quick examples. James, the Small Business Development Center for Hayes's the statewide host, but we also have a regional center. And so the numbers I'll share with you our regional numbers, for Hayes, the regional Small Business Development Center establishes and helps startup businesses. So lots of workshops and counseling services that can be done in person, but that also can be done remote now, because of our learning through the pandemic. And so this past year, the center has developed 78 workshops, assisted 124 established businesses in their regional area, which is primarily western Kansas, and then helped 14 new entrepreneurs launch business in this area, which is exciting for the economic drivers that we need to be as an institution and in our in our region. The Management Development Center is housed at Fort Hays State University as well provides lots of public workshops, the focus on customer service, managing people mastering business and communication software and applications. So really serving anyone that has needs in management leadership areas.   James Bell  Yeah, that's we talked about leadership earlier this week on the show and the difference between leadership and management and, and how that works and how it develops. And it is such an interesting field and Fort Hayes has been a leader, I think in in Leadership Studies and how that all not only academically, it comes together, but how it works in the practical world as well.   Jill Arensdorf  Yeah, you're right. Of course, I have some affinity for the Leadership Studies program since it's my home department. But the management development center that I think one of the beautiful things about that center, is that it utilizes expertise of not only our faculty, but business people and other people in the community that have a skill set that they can share with other folks. So they basically contract a facilitator. And then that facilitator uses their expertise to teach others about one of the areas that that we already discussed within the Management Development Center. One of the things I'll quickly mentioned, James, kind of connected to the business and economic development piece is an online bank management contest that the Robins banking Institute hosts each year, in coordination with Robins College of Business and Entrepreneurship. This institute actually engages community banks in Kansas, in this friendly bank simulation competition. So everyone likes a little healthy competition from time to time. And so this online bank management contest has been a fun way for the Institute in our community banks to compete and sharpen their banking skills as they compete.   James Bell  That's very fun. You know, it's one of the things I imagine it is, it is difficult to turn that into a fun activity. But that's a good time. You know, and the other thing speaking of, you know, the activity in the university helping the area, you know, a lot of ways I think the university just kind of generally makes life better out here, right?   Jill Arensdorf  Yeah, no, one of the things that I've always appreciated about living in western Kansas, and specifically now in Hays is that the quality of life is so good here. And our university contributes to that in a way that I'm certainly very proud of. An example of that would be the Herndon Speech Language Hearing Clinic, the clinic, His home is on campus, but the clinic is actually in its fifth year of providing mobile hearing screenings. This is a program sponsored again by the Kansas Masonic Foundation. And so in the last five years, the Herndon clinic, students, faculty and staff have actually provided over 830 free screenings in western Kansas communities, which is an amazing service. And it's amazing learning opportunity for our students who are in those programs. So that then when they're going out into their career, they have experience working in rural Kansas and rural communities and see the need out there and can help serve that need. Another example of just raising the quality of life in western Kansas is our Department of Geosciences is doing some research that's actually been funded by the Kansas Department of Health and Environment to test private wells for contamination in western Kansas. So again, a great way for our students and faculty to connect to western Kansas communities and ensure that our water water is of high quality and is safe to drink and use.   James Bell  Yeah, because I mean, otherwise, those resources are harder to find. I mean, I've done some some water testing and I know you have to ship that off and it's, you know, it gonna be a few days where you're doing a locally, just quicker and easier and And again, they're great learning.   Jill Arensdorf  Absolutely. Do we have time to talk about more? Yeah. Okay. So as I, as I came over to the station today, I walked literally walked by the senior companion and Foster Grandparent Program Office, which is now housed in rare at call. These are programs for our local seniors that fill a need on our community for services for our citizens over 55. And so if you're interested in getting involved, we have a director that that would be very anxious to visit with with you if you're interested in getting involved with our senior companion and Foster Grandparent Program. And then we have just ongoing partnerships with the pace Public Library in our downtown art and event venues to host exhibitions and poetry readings and author book signings which all contribute to the quality of life in the community. And so we have lots of students in lots of different departments that are collaborating with downtown Hayes, to to raise, raise our appreciation, maybe for the arts, but also to allow people to participate in a unique way. this coming Saturday is another great event that we have, probably you've probably talked about, in fact, I think I heard about it on the radio on my way up here, the teaming up for Tots toy assembly that will occur this Saturday in the Department of Applied Technology. I can't remember James how many years this has been going on. But it's been going on for many, many years. 200 wooden toys will be assembled from start to finish for children ages two to six. And those will be delivered just in time for Christmas. But if you haven't, if you haven't ever been to that event, it's it's it's really powerful to go in and see the community come together with students and faculty to contribute in a meaningful way and also honor a former Applied Technology faculty member Fred Ruda, the toy, the teaming up for Tots toy assembly is named after him. And he started that program. And it's just a really cool way to get into the spirit of the season, but also to contribute to the community.   James Bell  Absolutely. Yeah, I remember even as an undergrad here, I think it was a student reporter for the student newspaper, and I wrote some stories with with Dr. Ruta when he was doing that program back then. Yeah, it's it's cool. And I love that it's been able to continue and even expand and grow a   Jill Arensdorf  little bit. Yes, yes, I and there's, I think they sometimes have more volunteers than they then they have toys, but but it's just because people find the work so meaningful. And so I believe this year, there's a team of students that's working with Big Brothers Big Sisters. And so they're connecting that project into the teaming up for Tots toy assembly as well. Which actually leads me to another example. Our university athletes, many of them serve as Big Brothers and Big Sisters are for the Big Brothers, Big Sisters of Ellis County programs spending their time with students that need to mentor in their lives. And so that's a way that our, many of our students and many of our faculty and staff are connected to youth in the community through the Big Brothers Big Sisters program.   James Bell  Yeah, that's awesome. Cool program and and even cooler when you got to Fort Hays athletes, you know, leading the charge. Exactly,   Jill Arensdorf  exactly. I think I think in some ways, in some of those pictures, I see I think, impacts probably the Big Brother or Big Sister just as much as it impacts the little already cool. Yeah, very cool.   James Bell  Well, we've just got just about a minute or so left, we got to get over to weather. But any last thoughts before we go?   Jill Arensdorf  Well, James, thank you so much for this time that you afford to us on a very regular occasion to talk about Fort Hays State University. I respect our university and love it very much. And we have a very much a shared commitment to service. President Mason often often refers to this as the ethic of care. That's what makes for hasty different. And I think the examples we've talked about here, show that we really care about our students, our faculty and staff, but also our community and that that mission that we hold as high in higher education of the public good. speaks through these examples of outreach that we've talked about this morning, and we can talk probably for 30 more minutes and not cover everything. But as people get into the spirit of the season, I hope that you find a way to get connected to your community and appreciate the outreach that we all bring in.

In our first podcast episode we discuss the legend of Nicholas Hartzel and other hauntings, as well as delve into the unique history of this property spanning 160 years! Fort Hayes in Columbus Ohio is a fascinating place and we hope you join us. Any questions, comments, or submit your local legend or personal experiences at Anatalltales@gmail.com. Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100074467313758 and Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anatalltales/ Tour Fort Hayes at https://www.columbuscityadventures.com/history-and-haunts-of-ft-hayes/ Visit the Shot Tower gallery https://sites.google.com/columbus.k12.oh.us/shot-tower-gallery/current-exhibitions Please respect all private and public property. We realize the audio isnt the best and are actively working on making it better. Please bear with us.

Columbus native Gussie Miller has carved out quite a career working as a musician, producer, engineer, writer, and an audio engineer in the television and film industry. What sparked his interest and imagination can be traced back in large part to his high school days at Fort Hayes.

Lance gives an update on his final marathon in Boston on Monday. Then he talks about the standout performance by former Drake University runner Reed Fischer as well a near top-10 finish from former Iowa runner Diane Nukuri at the Chicago Marathon. The college cross country report starts with Caroline Cunningham's win at the Fort Hays State meet, followed by the Dordt men's dominant performance at their home meet. It ends with the Gramd View men topping the field at the Mount Mercy Seminole Valley Stampede on Saturday that also featured another good battle between the top runners from St. Ambrose and the Vikings. A Grand View runner also claims the title in the women's 5K in historic fashion. The podcast ends with a look ahead to a busy weekend of racing for Iowans and Iowa teams. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lance-bergeson8/support

 Part one of "Trail to Medicine Lodge" describes the reasons behind forming a peace commission to end the war with the Plains Indians while describing the Medicine Lodge location in Kansas. The story progresses as Billy Dixon, a hired freighter for the Medicine Lodge expedition, explains firsthand what it was like to move freight from the trailhead forts to the Medicine Lodge location. While on this journey from Fort Harker, Dixon experiences a cholera  epidemic and then joins a train of wagons from Fort Hayes to Fort Wallace. While at Fort Wallace, Dixon and his friend Frickie meet a journalist named Henry M. Stanley. Stanley, then working as a special correspondent for the Saint Louis Daily Democrat, provides a character description of each Medicine Lodge Peace Commission member. 

"Glory" is a pertinent choice for Bill Foley’s 2nd film. They’re both great, but first I have to deal with the pandemic and racial controversies in the room. I habitually push through trauma and drama in real time, then deal. However, this routinely reflective rehab is in my current face. Admitting a profound affect as an artist does peel back a sensitive layer. The conflict and loss is intense and I am on my knees. 2020 has taken an unexpected course and we will adapt our original plan (as we have many in the vault). Each episode is designed to be relevant and timeless, even as life changes. This isn’t easy, but the process yields a desired result through shared composition that I can’t deny. It’s all that I can do in this life to reveal what I am about. Moving Music is a connecting bridge through the chronicle of another‘s personal story. We need each other. Like Ali said, "Me, We !!" Bill’s 2nd film choice, "Glory", comes at this very poignant moment. His love of history, particularly the Civil War, has inspired me. Over the last 3 decades, I have learned so much about how to be, from my Fort Hayes brother Bill. He has helped teach me empathy for others, acceptance of what can’t be changed, and that love always wins. He often has been exactly what I needed, when I needed it. His voice lives within me and he still teaches me comprehension. Please, step inside with Moving Music once again as we reconvene with Bill Foley about "Glory", and everything else. TC

In 1931, talking pictures had found their monster voice with Bela Lugosi as "Dracula". The combination of his visual style and speech cadence helped lift his vampire off the screen. Many believe this iconic performance was the best of his life. I had seen Sean Carney play multiple times and recognized a familiar "Fort" professionalism. When I learned that he was Fort Hayes alum, I was not surprised. His playing has a distinct style and he has a flare for stage fashion. We sat with many of Sean's peers and now it’s his turn. Once again, Moving Music sits with "Fort family" to discuss a film, music, and life. TC

On this episode of the Hey Now Podcast we got a chance to sit down with Dominique Jones aka Disco Domo. We got a chance to chop it up about his journey. We were able to talk about his High School career as well as the route that he had to take in order to get to Fort Hayes. Also touched on his one handed free-throws and how that came about. How a round ball has lead him to become an All-American, A Harlem Globetrotter, A Professional, and just know a Gold medalist. Domo is a true example that if one door closes that doesn't mean you stop knocking on the other doors. I really people many people can learn from Domo's journey is truly one that will have you cheering what is next for Disco Domo.

In this E⚡️P Josh talks about running his first job as second year apprentice at Fort Hayes State University soccer stadium. Listen to how he learned to think in ways others wouldn't in order to achieve the things others didn't. The road to a stronger you isn't easy and there will be sacrifices. Let Josh's words help you to grow as you listen to his stories about the long lonely road to leadership that started in Hayes, Kansas. Mentioned In Podcast:   

Martin Scorsese talked about film makers, at times, smuggling social messages within their work by artistic design. In 1997, Director Luc Besson crafted such an effort. ”The Fifth Element” flew under the radar and served a commentary purpose questioning war and corporate culture. Each viewing reveals a layer previously missed. Presented in a science fiction format, this movie does have many teachable and cautionary lessons. Fort Hayes alumni are everywhere. We stick together, help each other, and come together often. Jennifer Milligan graduated three years before Ty and I, but “The Fort” kinship was undeniable as we discussed “The Fifth Element”. She lives, loves and plays music with her husband, Pascal, in France. We caught up with her during the American leg of her tour and this conversational journey is emotional and revealing. Moving Music is proud to bring you this inside glimpse of Jennifer Milligan. TC

Noah Adams will bring his 30+ years of radio experience to Fort Hayes on July 26 for “An Evening with Noah Adams,” a benefit for WCBE, 90.5 FM. I talked with Adams about how he got his start in NPR, … Continue reading →

We meet up with the Unsinkable Molly Brown, stop in at Fort Hayes and get a big smooch from Liam's cousin Joycie.