Podcast appearances and mentions of mary shirley

Mary Shirley is a lawyer with 20 years of ethics and compliance experience, which includes implementing, evaluating and monitoring compliance programs for multinational corporations. Tune in as she discusses the critical role of ethical leadership, her stand against bribery and values-driven decision-making. We'll also delve into innovative initiatives that encourage ethical behaviour and the significance of integrating integrity into daily operations. In this episode, we explore: Creating a culture of integrity in healthcare The risks of merging legal and compliance roles Lead with heart, not just a checklist Encourage a culture where speaking up is celebrated … and the power of sharing compliance updates on LinkedIn ‘You Can Culture: Transformative Leadership Habits for a Thriving Workplace, Positive Impact and Lasting Success' is now available here.

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. Today Lisa and Hemma visit with GWIC co-founder Mary Shirley on her move to the West Coast, her new role and what she sees down the road for compliance in 2024 and beyond. Most recently, she wrote “Living Your Best Compliance Life: 65 Hacks & Cheat Codes to Level Up Your Ethics & Compliance Program (CCI Press 2023).” In “Level Up,” Mary utilized many of her experiences and others in putting together practical and insightful hacks to help new and experience compliance professionals going forward.  Mary also shares some new “hacks” that were shared with her since the book was published. Mary is known for “sending the elevator back down,” as well as lifting our ethics and compliance community up. She emphasizes the importance of incorporating diverse perspectives into compliance programs and building a culture of compliance. She did that in the book by crowdsourcing ideas from the compliance community and sharing these ideas with all of us. By leveraging the knowledge and experiences of others, Mary helps compliance professionals to continuously enhance their compliance programs.  Join Lisa Fine, Hemma Lomax and Mary Shirley on this episode of the Great Women in Compliance podcast to delve deeper into these insights. Key Highlights ·      Practical Tools for Compliance Leadership ·      The Power of Collaboration for Personal Growth ·      Expanding Incentives for Team Recognition ·      Embracing New Challenges in Teaching ·      The Vibrant and Active Lifestyle of California Resources Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

By Adam Turteltaub Mary Shirley (LinkedIn) has had a fascinating journey as a compliance professional. Born in Hong Kong and raised in New Zealand, she has worked in Singapore, Dubai and across the US. She currently serves as Head of Compliance at Masimo, and she just authored the book Living Your Best Compliance Life: 65 Hacks & Cheat Codes to Level Up Your Ethics & Compliance Program. In this podcast she argues for embracing professional development and owning your own advancement. Among the hacks she recommends is creating a notebook on yourself. Record in it what you have done, the key steps along the way, and some of the larger details. That way, when annual performance time comes around, you are prepared to share what you have accomplished and won't have to scramble to reconstruct what you did over the past year. The same information, she points out, is very helpful when looking for your next position. It can help  you both recall what you have done and prepare to answer questions about key accomplishments and solutions you have developed. When it comes to speaking at conferences and writing, she offers some simple advice: Just start. If you don't you will always wonder what might have happened if you did. From a practical perspective, she urges people to remind themselves that the first draft doesn't have to be the last. You can turn to others for feedback who can help you revise and improve that article or speaking proposal. To get the best advice, she recommends creating what she calls a wisdom council: a group of individuals whose advice you can trust. The council should be made up of people with diverse skills and experiences who have practical expertise and the comfort level with you to offer both encouragement and honest feedback, even if it is uncomfortable. Listen in for more advice on how to level up your skills and how to find the courage to pursue your goals.

CEOs play a pivotal role in shaping an organization's commitment to ethical practices. Involving CEOs in compliance training, having them share their experiences, and demonstrating a personal commitment to compliance initiatives sets a strong tone from the top. This engagement fosters a culture of ethics and compliance throughout the organization, reinforcing the importance of ethical conduct at all levels.Mary Shirley is a highly regarded authority in the field of ethics, compliance, and corporate governance. She is widely recognized for her expertise in helping organizations navigate the complex landscape of compliance, mitigate risks, and promote ethical practices. With a wealth of experience and insights, Mary Shirley has become a sought-after thought leader, speaker, and author. Her book, Living Your Best Compliance Life: 65 Hacks and Cheat Codes to Level Up Your Ethics and Compliance Program, has earned acclaim for bridging gaps in existing literature on compliance programs.You'll hear Michael and Mary discuss:Organizations can promote ethics and compliance by recognizing and rewarding individuals or teams who exhibit ethical behaviors. This creates a positive atmosphere throughout the company, as employees are more likely to behave ethically if they see that it is valued and rewarded. Additionally, recognizing and rewarding ethical behavior can help to set a good example for other employees and encourage them to behave ethically as well.Engaging leaders from different regions and departments in compliance training programs ensures diverse perspectives and reinforces the importance of compliance at all levels. Leaders from different regions and departments will have different experiences and understanding of compliance issues. By engaging them in training programs, organizations can gain a more holistic view of compliance risks and how to mitigate them. Practical solutions and problem-solving are essential for compliance initiatives. For example, shortening documentation requirements or providing training for HR on investigation best practices can be effective solutions. These solutions can help to reduce the burden of compliance on employees and make it easier for businesses to comply with regulations.One of the critical elements Mary discusses is the significance of building strong relationships within the company. Collaboration and idea implementation are key to success in the compliance world.Collaboration between legal, compliance, and HR teams, along with training for HR on investigation best practices, helps streamline compliance efforts.CEOs play a critical role in setting the tone for compliance within an organization. They are the ones who set the example for their employees, and their actions and words can have a significant impact on whether or not employees comply with regulations. When CEOs are involved in compliance training, it demonstrates that they are committed to ethical practices and that they take compliance seriously.Mary recommends forming task forces to validate compliance ideas at an early stage, fostering a culture of innovation and problem-solving.Encouraging employees to share personal anecdotes related to compliance principles humanizes the process and fosters a culture of ethical work. When employees feel like they can share their own experiences with compliance, it helps them to understand the principles on a deeper level. It also helps to create a sense of community and belonging, as employees see that they are not alone in their commitment to ethical behavior. KEY QUOTE“One of the things that I learned way later that I wish I had was that when you involve people in the conceptualizing aspect [of] building a compliance initiative… and they feel [like they are] part of it… you're in a much better position to get buy-in when you [implement].” - Mary ShirleyResourcesMary Shirley on LinkedIn Order Mary's new book: Living Your Best Compliance Life

Welcome to the only roundtable podcast in compliance as we celebrate our second century of shows. Everything Compliance has been honored by W3 as the top podcast talk show. In this episode, the quartet of Jay Rosen, Jonathan Marks, Matt Kelly, and Karen Woody, with Tom Fox hosting, consider various topics that caught their collective interest and conclude with the fan favorite Shout Outs and Rants section. 1. Matt Kelly looks at the PCAOB proposal requiring auditors to look into fraud, compliance, and legal issues during an audit. Matt balances the charges against former Harvard professor Francesca Gino, who is charged with falsifying research. 2. Karen Woody looks at whether, when a corporation says litigation is ‘without merit', this creates a securities law violation if it later loses at trial. Karen shouts out to the Women's World Cup. 3. Tom Fox shouts out to Montana District Court Judge Kathy Seely for her opinion in Held v. Montana and Mary Shirley for her book Level Up. 4. Jay Rosen unpacks the recent push for an International Anti-Corruption Court. Rosen shouts out penalty kicks as the ultimate approach for ending a tie game, particularly as practiced in the Women's World Cup. 5. Jonathan Marks considers key issues facing auditors in 2023. Marks shout out to both fruit and baseball in extolling the Savannah Bananas. The members of the Everything Compliance are: •       Jay Rosen– Jay is Vice President, Business Development Corporate Monitoring at Affiliated Monitors. Rosen can be reached at JRosen@affiliatedmonitors.com •       Karen Woody – One of the top academic experts on the SEC. Woody can be reached at kwoody@wlu.edu •       Matt Kelly – Founder and CEO of Radical Compliance. Kelly can be reached at mkelly@radicalcompliance.com •       Jonathan Armstrong –is our UK colleague, who is an experienced data privacy/data protection lawyer with Cordery in London. Armstrong can be reached at jonathan.armstrong@corderycompliance.com •       Jonathan Marks can be reached at jtmarks@gmail.com. The host and producer, ranter (and sometimes panelist) of Everything Compliance is Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance. He can be reached at tfox@tfoxlaw.com. Everything Compliance is a part of the Compliance Podcast Network.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. It all started with a casual conversation between friends in October 2018 at an evening event in Las Vegas, and shortly thereafter, the Great Women in Compliance podcast was born, the first podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network that was not hosted by Tom Fox. For the last 4.5 years, Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley have worked on developing the podcast to best bring listeners quality content and this week, they reach their 200th episode. At this juncture, Mary passes the baton to Lloydette Bai-Marrow, who will be joining Lisa Fine as the newest #GWIC co-host. Join them after a summer break to tune in to the new iteration of the podcast. In the meantime, this episode features mini interviews between Lisa and Mary, as well another round of the GWICies - the recognition (sometimes tongue in cheek) that Lisa and Mary have given during certain milestones since their 100th episode. As she puts down the microphone, Mary extends gratitude to all of the listeners and guests who made the podcast what it is today. She also voices her huge appreciation for Lisa and the fruitful partnership over the last several years and looks forward to what is to come for the podcast, as the number one cheerleader for GWIC 2.0 Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   Today's Great Women in Compliance episode is a crossover one with LRN's Principled Podcast. Meredith Hunt, Ethics and Compliance Specialist at LRN, makes her podcast debut hosting, #GWIC Co-host, Mary Shirley. Change is hard; we fight to hold on, yet we fight to let go, and deciding which direction to go in can have a huge impact for not only your journey, but of those around you. Meredith interviews Mary about some critical coaching questions to ask yourself when at a crossroads that are particularly helpful if you're questioning whether you should stay or go from the status quo.    They also discuss favorite ways to send the elevator back down to those around them and share tips for leveling up your Compliance program, including a spoiler idea from Mary's soon-to-be released book on innovative and trail blazing ways to level up your Compliance program, called Living Your Best Compliance Life. Look out for the e-book soon and the later hard copy launch, coinciding with the Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics Compliance and Ethics Institute.  You can find the a written transcript of the episode and more information at the Principled Podcast here: https://blog.lrn.com/how-ethics-and-compliance-professionals-can-send-the-elevator-back-down You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

There are certain people you meet in your professional career that continue to have an impact on you and your industry, long after that initial meeting. For Principled Podcast host Meredith Hunt, that person is Mary Shirley, the former head of Integrity and Compliance Education at Fresenius Medical Care (now head of compliance for Masimo) and co-host of the Great Women in Compliance podcast. On this episode, the two discuss how ethics and compliance professionals can better amplify their peers and build community, using guidance from Mary's book Sending the Elevator Back Down. They also explore themes from Mary's upcoming book on how E&C leaders can make the most impact on their programs with limited resources.  For a transcription of this podcast, please visit the episode page at LRN.com.   Guest: Mary Shirley Mary Shirley is a New Zealand-qualified lawyer with 18 years of ethics and compliance experience that includes working for data privacy and antitrust regulators, in-house and private practice/consultancy across five countries and four regions of the world.   Mary co-hosts the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, which aims to create a platform for the outstanding achievements of women in the field and sharing ideas and provide learning opportunities for everyone in compliance.  She co-authored the book Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance (CCI Press, 2020) and has a second book highlighting trailblazing and innovative ideas to level up compliance programs, coming out later in 2023.   She has been bestowed the honor of being named a Compliance Week Top Mind 2019, Trust Across America 2020 Top Thought Leader in Trust, and Excellence in Compliance Awards 2022 Mentor of the Year.    Host: Meredith Hunt Meredith Hunt came to LRN in early 2023 as a formidable compliance generalist, with experience in quality management, project management, regulatory compliance, policy drafting, and compliance program implementation and management. As a self-proclaimed compliance “nerd,” Meredith works as an ethics and compliance specialist on LRN's Advisory team. In this capacity, she leads LRN's code of conduct assessment and benchmarking practice and advises clients on how to incorporate code of conduct best practices. Meredith also manages client projects across a range of industries, including code of conduct development and E&C program evaluations. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   Over the past few years, it seems like fantasy sports and online gaming have a higher profile than ever, and they are part of a rapidly growing industry. Today's guest, Carolyn Renzin, is the Chief Legal and Compliance Officer at FanDuel, which is one of the leaders in that space. In a wide-ranging discussion, Carolyn and Lisa discuss building a compliance function at the same time an industry framework is being built, and how she has grown her team. She also talks about FanDuel's commitment to integrity - both as an organization and for professional sports in general. Her analogy between sports and her role is one we can all keep in mind - "you play offense, we play defense, and we need each other."   You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the award-winning FCPA Compliance Report, the longest-running podcast in compliance. This episode features a special episode with guests Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley of the Great Women in Compliance podcast. Great Women in Compliance is coming up on its 200th-anniversary show and will move to GWIC 2.0. I asked the women if they would reflect on where they have been and where GWIC may be going. In this podcast, Mary and Lisa reflect on their podcast journey, discussing their impact on their audience and themselves. They talk about their interview style, attempts to get Dolly Parton's permission to use her song, and upcoming episodes, including adding a co-host. The podcast highlights the importance of diverse voices and perspectives and aims to make guests comfortable while maintaining a professional yet relaxed tone. Join these dynamic hosts as they share memories and tease new ideas, including a book release and round table discussions with women. Take advantage of this engaging and authentic conversation about success, imposter syndrome, and making a difference! Key Highlights: Great Women in Compliance: 200th Episode Reflections Evolution of a Passion Podcast Overcoming Impostor Syndrome on Podcasts Opportunities and Authenticity in Podcasting Approach to podcasting and favorite moments Podcast Length and Dolly Parton's Theme Song Building Successful Business Relationships as Co-Hosts Thanking Listeners for Ideas and Growth Notable Quotes “As a true supporter of women, you looked at us and said, ‘Why don't you do it?' And suddenly, right away, it went from this thing we talked about into something bigger than both of us and turned into a book where the people interested in this shared their stories.” “The podcast started as a hobby but has become an intricate part of our lives, not only as individuals but at least as in my life as cohosts and friends.” “And what I think was an honor for Lisa and myself as people who aren't necessarily on the speaking circuit, that we wanted to get the diversity of thought and new voices on the show.” “Everybody is a thought leader. I'm talking to you because I think you're a thought leader, and I think you're bringing something to the table that, again, in a way, which not to make somebody feel pressured into doing it But I also think that's how I connect with people. Whether they like it or not, this is the conversation. And this is who I am.” Resources Mary Shirley Lisa Fine Great Women in Compliance Tom Fox Instagram Facebook YouTube Twitter LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.  Today, however producer Tom Fox guest hosts Mary and Lisa.  The Great Women in Compliance podcast is not quite at 200 episodes. However Lisa, Mary and Tom wanted to do special joint episode, looking back on the last 4.5 years of #GWIC. Tom leads this episode by putting questions to Lisa and Mary while sharing his own perceptions and observations about the journey so far.  The team discusses some behind-the scenes content about how the episodes were put together in light of the goals Lisa and Mary had for their audience.  They discuss the lighter moments and memorable times from various perspectives and what the community support has meant to them. This episode sets the stage for the 200th episode which we invite you to join us for on 5 July 2023. Some of the highlights include: ·      How the kernel of GWIC began and how it still resonates today.  ·      How Mary and Lisa helped several guests overcome the imposter syndrome by coming on the podcast as guests. ·      How the podcast led to the book.  ·      How Mary and Lisa have built upon their GWIC experiences.  ·      Lisa previews GWIC 2.0. ·      Some favorite memories.  ·      Some funny memories.  You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   Most E&C professionals know that you can have the best practices and policies, but if they are not understood by your employees and teams, they cannot be effective. And some of us, like today's guest, Nicole Di Schino, help us with that next step in our training programs. She calls herself the "Compliance Education Fanatic," and you will understand why after hearing this episode. Nicole discusses the importance of having creative and interactive training, and also how using training with a choice of a "best" answer is better than letting people pick a clear right answer. Nicole and Lisa also talk about how different ways to communicate with and provide training for those in different generations, particularly with Gen Z. You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes, and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   Elaine Pretorius is even more of an international citizen than Mary.  She shares her fascinating journey to today where she is a leader at McKinsey & Company's Compliance function to the #GWIC audience.  Elaine gives some sage advice to listeners about implementing transformational change, being an extremely well-respected leader and diplomacy in the workplace.  Mary and Elaine shout out one of Elaine's former team members, Melissa Lempa because they are huge fans of Melissa's for being a true Great Woman in Compliance and legendary at her job.  Elaine shares some great personal anecdotes in this episode, join us to benefit from her wise advice. You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   A few years ago, Lisa committed to doing one solo episode a year, and here is the 2023 episode.  As she prepared (which is always a strange experience as it isn't for a conversation with someone else, but a soliloquy), this became a theme of "threes" - she talks about 3 topics, all of which start with "C" the third letter of the alphabet.   These are change, culture and community. In the change section, she gives some spoiler updates on the GWIC 2.0 format, among other things.  She also talks about some of the things on her mind about organizational culture and how that has changed - and not changed - as we continue into a post-pandemic life.  Lastly, in terms of community, she reflects on our E&C community, some exciting upcoming events and her appreciation of all of the support in moving forward from Mary and so many #GWICs. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   Mary has known of Vera Cherepanova for a long time due to her contributions on the FCPABlog but they only just met in person for the first time at the Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics ECEI in Amsterdam at the conference in March 2023. Mary was delighted to invite Vera to the #GWIC podcast to talk about her specialty subjects matter areas of behavioral change, behavioral risk and speaking up. We're pleased to feature Vera who is very accomplished as the author of the first book on corporate compliance in Russian. You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.   A #GWIC can be lots of things - which is one of the best parts of this community. Today's guest is a true advocate and supporter of women while also being one of the architects of this profession and one of our best.  It's Joe Murphy, who co-authored the first book ever written on compliance, and is currently the Editor of Compliance and Ethics: Ideas and Answers. Getting to know Joe is an honor and a privilege, and if you do, you will immediately learn about his passion for dance. He's a #CCO and #GWIC in his role as Chief Cha-Cha Officer at Haddonfield Dance, and a Great Waltzer in Compliance. Lisa was lucky to speak with this about and a number of other topics, including the genesis of Compliance and Ethics: Ideas and Answers. They also speak about what Joe sees as the best design for a CECO role to set them up for success, and about the power dynamics that are inherent in roles.   Just as the waltz can be done in a circle, we end with a discussion of what Joe has enjoyed and learned from dance that can be great lessons for life and life in compliance. Lisa and Mary are so grateful that Joe has spent some time with us. You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.  The Great Women in Compliance podcast has covered speaking up from many angles over the last several years because it's such an important and perennial topic that Compliance Officers need to keep thinking on to maximize effectiveness.   This week's unique speak up angle comes from the former Chief of the Office of the Whistleblower at the Securities and Exchange Commission.  Jane Norberg is now a partner at Arnold Porter and shares some insightful observations and advice that leverage off her knowledge from receiving whistleblower tips over nine years.  She tells the #GWIC audience how the Office of the Whistleblower focuses their priorities and how the SEC typically works with whistleblowers.  Jane talks about the well-known phenomenon that many whistleblowers do make an attempt to report internally before they turn elsewhere and Mary asks her about some of the specific areas of opportunity that companies have to avoid missing the gift of a whistleblower tip – you won't want to miss this. You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.”  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. In today's episode, the Great Women in Compliance podcast delves into training and learning with Maria D'Avanzo, who is the Chief Evangelist Officer for Traliant.  Prior to joining Traliant, Maria was the Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer and Chief Privacy Officer for Cushman & Wakefield. Like Lisa, many of you may be wondering what a "Chief Evangelist Officer" does in compliance, and Maria's role is one which is more often seen in tech companies, where there is a person who is dedicated to improving the customer experience in all areas, from product development to customer servicing, using her perspective as an E&C officer.  She shares some of what she has learned from customers and her views on trends and current issues, including the use of AI and best practices.  She also talks about her experiences in financial compliance, and may be the first podcast guest who holds NASD Series 24, 7, and 63 licenses. You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network (CPN) where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights (CCI) where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary's monthly column "Living Your Best Compliance Life.” Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. As Lisa and Mary return from seasonal break, they have some big news about the next chapter of the podcast.  Join this episode to hear about Mary's planned departure from Great Women in Compliance at the 200th episode milestone and the exciting plans that Lisa has in mind to change things up and keep them fresh for #GWIC listeners when returning from an extended Summer break later in the year.  We look forward to celebrating the 200th episode with all of our listeners on 5 July 2023!  Lisa and Mary also take the opportunity this episode to talk about some topical issues in Compliance, including Artificial Intelligence,  in relation to recent conferences and share information in relation to The Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics ECEI, Consero's Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer Forum and the upcoming Compliance Week Women in Compliance Summit which will be held in Atlanta in June.  Check out the details and get yourself registered here to see Team GWIC speak on networking and other tips to advance your career.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. Today's guest on the Great Women in Compliance podcast is one of the groundbreaking women in the E&C field, Amii Barnard-Bahn.  Amii is a former Fortune 50 executive, the founder and CEO of Barnard-Bahn Coaching and Consulting, and recently joined Kaplan and Walker as a partner in February 2023.  She is also the author of the Promotability Index and the PI Guidebook: How the Promotability Index® Can Help You Get Ahead in Your Career.  Lisa and Amii discuss some of Amii's recent work about listening and team building, and specifically about the importance of active listening.  She focuses on the difference between listening to understand vs. listening to respond.  They also discuss the challenges for women to speak up, and at the same time making sure you are listening and speaking effectively, and how to address this when you are working with someone who only listens to respond.  Amii has also been a leader for women executives, in her coaching and consulting work, her advocacy for women on Boards and pay equity.  Lisa and Amii discuss the compensation gap between men and women and whether women in E&C suffer from the same pay gap.  She also shares some practical tips for women to keep in mind when negotiating a compensation increase or a promotion.  You can find all the information about Amii here. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. In today's episode, Lisa speaks with Tracy Saale, who is Conduct Risk Management, Managing Director and Corporate Responsibility Officer at Charles Schwab.   This is her second career, and while we often hear from attorneys who have gone in-house, or were assigned to compliance, Tracy started out as a prosecutor and then at the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI), where she worked all over the globe, and advised in ethics and compliance during her career there. She discusses the importance of advising law enforcement officials on what is - or is not - permissible, particularly when they are dealing with criminal behavior and security issues. When she started at the FBI, they had approximately 14% women agents, and while that has increased into the 20% range, there is a way to go, so she recounts her experiences. While Tracy was a bit guarded given her experiences with corporate malfeasance, she also was impressed with Charles Schwab, and joined them in part for that. In her in-house career, she is now seeing what so many of us see - that the majority of people are trying to do the right things - a more positive side of corporate life. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. The Great Women in Compliance podcast's guest for this week is Julie Bregnard, a Compliance professional who is relatively early into her career and going places fast.  Mary interviews Julie with a special focus on the job search, as Julie has just moved into a new role after five years at her first “real” job.  As discussed in the GWIC New Year episode several weeks ago to kick off 2023, the market for certain levels of Compliance staff is extremely favorable now.  Julie and Mary share some tips for further increasing job hunter success in the search.  Julie also reflects on her time as a new graduate looking for her first job after university.  Mary asked Julie to give some tips on subject as she received a request to do an episode that is helpful to students.  Though further back in time, Mary still remembers how painful and demoralizing the search for your first professional full-time role can be and with this in mind, asked Julie to share some advice and encouragement for students on how to best stay motivated and on task throughout this time.  As a Compliance practitioner who has been instrumental in strategizing on and delivering multiple Compliance Week events to her internal stakeholders, Julie provides some insights on what she thinks makes for a good Compliance Week and takes a broader view on how you can leverage them for ongoing dialogue in an organization. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. Have you ever wondered about corporate intelligence?  What it means, how it is done, and how it relates to our work in ethics and compliance.  In today's episode, Lisa speaks with Jen Hoar, who is a Managing Director at Forward Risk and Intelligence.  Jen calls herself a "recovering journalist," and reflects on how that career path brought her to where she is today. Lisa and Jen discuss what corporate and human source intelligence are, and the strategies she uses to obtain relevant information.  She also explains the distinction between corporate intelligence and corporate espionage.  They talk about the art of interviewing in her world, and how it is similar - and different - to internal investigations and what many of us do.  Jen also provides some great tips and advice for talking to and connecting with people.   A special thank you to Kelly Paxton for this recommendation, and if you haven't listened to her podcast, "Fraudish," you should definitely check it out. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance”(CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. Today's episode on Trade Compliance, with Ellen Smith, is a celebration of male allyship. Ellen was nominated to be on the Great Women in Compliance podcast by Matt Silverman. It is always a joy for Lisa and Mary to see men supporting women and leveraging off the #GWIC podcast to achieve this goal.  Ellen joins Mary and walks us through some Trade Compliance hot topics of the moment and helps us understand what boycotts are and how they fit into the Trade Compliance landscape. She also shares her journey about how she came to specialize in this subject matter area and tell us about hanging her own shingle in the space. One other way you can improve your workplace is with employee recognition, and Mary's "Living Your Best Compliance Life" column at Corporate Compliance Insights can provide some great insights on the benefits of doing so and some ideas that can brighten someone's day.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley and to the new GWIC year. Many of us, especially women, think about the importance of being nice and kind, but have you thought about the differences between those two concepts? And is it a problem to be nice at work? In this episode, Lisa speaks with Amy Schuh, a partner at Morgan Lewis, talks about the distinction – and how being nice works only when things are going well, and being kind also includes being genuine, supporting your team and is critical to building a successful compliance function. In particular, she talks about an article Reasons to stop being nice at work (fastcompany.com) which is incredibly thought provoking.    Amy sees her career path as a “jungle gym,” where she has moved between law firms to legal and compliance roles in large companies, and has successfully avoided monitors. She shares her experiences in both, and how they have influenced her current work and how she built her career. Lisa and Amy also talk about how they connect and build trust in relationships, and how to build and retain strong teams, particularly with the concept of fairness to employees. Spoiler alert: treating everyone equally isn't the same as being fair. That concept is included in Hiring Wisdom: Top 10 Ways to Guarantee Your Best People Will Quit – TLNT.  The ”homework” that Lisa did to speak with Amy in those two articles are now a part of Lisa's library…which also includes Mary Shirley's Corporate Compliance Insights monthly column. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley and to the new GWIC year. Mary and Lisa are back, and looking forward to another season of interesting discussions with fabulous people where we can learn, talk and build our community.  We are always looking to continue these discussions, so please reach out to us, and don't miss Mary's monthly column on Corporate Compliance Insights called "Living Your Best Compliance Life." In this episode, Lisa and Mary kick off the year with a New Year's Resolution themed-episode discussing what compliance officers should commit to, focus on and/or prioritize in 2023.   They discuss various substantive issues, such as the DOJ statements on ephemeral communications, what they understand and how much they are looking forward to the forthcoming guidance. Mary also discusses some of the recent cases and developments at the end of 2022, and Lisa includes her thoughts about the intersection of ESG and Compliance.  They also discuss the future of remote work in compliance, and how that is impacting the job market. No Mary and Lisa discussion is not complete without some work/life comments and resolutions, so those will be shared as well.  As always, they include the hope that everyone is sending the elevator back down.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. One of the most critical aspects of the role of a Compliance Officer is establishing the reputation of the function as being one which is approachable and reliable.  One of the colleagues Mary has admired the most in being successful in this respect, is Karina Vollmer.  The two worked together at Tata Communications in Singapore and take a walk down memory lane to share some thoughts from the past that allow introverts like Mary to learn from extroverts like Karina.  Karina is originally from Indonesia and takes the opportunity to share with the GWIC audience some of the unique cultural aspects of the country that may impact the role of global compliance officers in multi-national corporations. As a mother of two and a Chief Compliance Officer, Karina has a lot going on.  Her discussion builds on an earlier podcast episode with Sue Scott (Great Women in Compliance episode #173) where she addresses the common issue of mum/mom guilt.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. One of the best things about the longevity of the GWIC podcast is that Mary and Lisa get to build some of their own ideas and traditions.  Some are things like "bonus episodes" - a great idea by Mary, the #GWICies, and one of Lisa's, which is to do her last podcast interview of the year with someone who is not only a leader in the E&C community due to her expertise, but also someone who is always a mentor and support to so many people (including Lisa).  This year, Lisa is speaking with Jacki Cheslow, who was on the podcast a few years back and since then has moved from a large corporate organization, Avis/Budget, to the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers - the IEEE, which is the world's largest non-profit technical organization. Jackie talks about her experience with IEEE as a mission-driven organization, which is to develop technology to benefit humanity, and how that influences her role.  She also talks about starting out at IEEE and needed to learn a whole new area, sanctions, which then became even more important than she would have anticipated.  Jacki also shares how she had a bit of imposter syndrome when she started at IEEE,  She provides  valuable insight in how to change one's mindset from a fixed mindset to a growth mindset and how that can also change one's view that they are given the opportunity to learn new things as recognition of one's potential and being open to learning. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. One of the things about social media is that it is always changing and always a challenge for us to address in ethics and compliance.  Today, Lisa is speaking with Kortney Nordrum, VP, Regulatory Counsel and Chief Compliance Officer at Deluxe.  Kortney has been a thought leader in this area through many changes, or as Lisa thinks of it, "from Facebook to TikTok." In this wide-ranging discussion, Kortney provides insight on how to develop effective policies to address the use of social media, particularly if there are inappropriate statements.  She talks about the importance of constantly adapting to changes, and how we can use social media in our field.  She also shares her views about ephemeral communications like WhatsApp and WeChat, and how to address the concerns that they raise. These days, no conversation about social media and compliance would not be complete without a discussion of Twitter.  Kortney gives her perspective what has happened since Elon Musk took over as well as Twitter's historic issues with hate speech and incendiary accounts and what we can learn from this as E&C professionals. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. This week we feature another life after Compliance story with Sue Scott.  Sue, originally from South Africa and currently residing in the United Kingdom, is a Compliance veteran with 20 years of experience at HSBC. But this episode doesn't focus on financial services Compliance, instead we hear Sue's journey as she considered moving away from Compliance and trying something new.  Mary asks her about her thought process and considerations in making such a big life decision and Sue shares what some of the biggest challenges are for clients at the moment (we're willing to bet the majority of the Great Women in Compliance audience will find something here relatable – mom/mum guilt anyone?) and Sue shares some coaching advice for how to address some of these issues.  If you've been thinking about getting into coaching, moving into a new area or simply advance planning for your future, this episode will provide helpful considerations and inspiration for taking the big leap – or preparing to do so at least! For those of you who find that mom/mum guilt is something that resonates deeply, keep an eye out for our upcoming episode with Karina Vollmer where we dive into that challenge in further detail with advice from Karina, a Chief Compliance Officer working mum, or mom as she would say. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. We have not done a training episode in a while so this week we invited Harper Wells, Chief Compliance Officer of Learning Pool, to share her insights as a Compliance expert working for a training company. Harper shares what it's like being a CCO within a service provider and then takes us on a journey of the latest and greatest elements of training in Ethics and Compliance programs.  Harper and Mary address some considerations on the potentially controversial topic of testing out of Compliance training. We end this episode with some advice and encouragement for non lawyers like Harper, with their eye on the prize for a CCO role. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. This week we are pleased to feature Joelle Thorne-Peters who is a Compliance Audit expert.  She shares with us her thoughts on what Compliance audit is about, what to look for when hiring audit professionals and commentary on the enjoyable phrase "You don't have to be a clown to audit the circus". She also shares some perennial issues that are always worth keeping in mind as stones to turn over, an emerging risk for our radars, espouses a view on where Compliance audit should sit in the organization and thoughts on how Compliance can better work with internal audit. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Today is the second part of a 2-part series that we have been planning for a while, and the timing turned out to be perfect.  Lisa is speaking with an all-star panel of Audrey Harris, Bethany Hengsbach and Dionne Lomax,  Managing Directors from Affiliated Monitors.  Audrey's area is  Global Anticorruption, Compliance, Ethics & Non–Financial Risk, Bethany focuses on Global Corporate Compliance, with a focus on healthcare, and Dionne works in Antitrust and Trade Regulation, as well as being a professor at Boston University. The timing for this series turned out perfectly, as the group was able to get into an in-depth discussion about Lisa Monaco's statements in September about the Monaco Doctrine and some of their key takeaways.  In Part 2, the group discusses the statements about compensation and clawbacks, and the importance of appropriate resources, among other topics. They also provide their individual perspectives on two other topics that many of us discuss.  One is the reporting line for CECOs, and the importance of a direct line to the Board or Audit Committees.  The other is the certification of Corporate Compliance programs by CEOs and CECOs. The entire discussion was extremely insightful, filled with practical ideas and good tips for everyone who is trying to build and/or maintain a program.  Listen to Part 1 here. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Today is the first part of a 2-part series that we have been planning for a while, and the timing turned out to be perfect. Lisa is speaking with an all-star panel of Audrey Harris, Bethany Hengsbach and Dionne Lomax,  Managing Directors from Affiliated Monitors.  Audrey's area is  Global Anticorruption, Compliance, Ethics & Non–Financial Risk, Bethany focuses on Global Corporate Compliance, with a focus on healthcare, and Dionne works in Antitrust and Trade Regulation, as well as being a professor at Boston University.   In Part 1, we get to hear more about their backgrounds and the road to their current roles.  They also explain more about work as a monitor, including how they are appointed, what they do as monitors, and the field in general.  They also share their experiences in reviewing programs and what impresses them when they are assessing a program, and, conversely, what concerns them. They also provide advice for women who want to get into the field, and some of the things they have learned.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. The 2022 Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics, Compliance and Ethics Institute took place last week in Phoenix, Arizona.  There was a mix of both in person and virtual attendees with a person presence significantly bolstered compared with the 2021 crowd, the first in person ECI since the pandemic hit.  In 2023 it really felt like things were back and the Great Women in Compliance podcast hosts, Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley, debrief listeners with a roundup of highlights and musings from the conference, as well as handing out a few prized GWICies.  Lisa and Mary both critically analyze some aspects of the conference and sessions, as well as take their usual lighthearted and informal approach to discussing what they thought went well, where there were areas of opportunity, surprises and how they each dealt with unforeseen challenges – from the beginning of the conference and throughout – including Lisa's hangry misfortune and Mary nearly causing an international incident at a piano bar.  Join us for this special joint episode and re-live the conference for those that attended and cure your FOMO for those who were unable to make it.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).  If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don't forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you're done, or if you can't bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  As Lisa and Mary prepare for the end of 2022 with their fall hiatus, they thought they would mix it up by posting their Ethics Experts episodes.  We've heard from Mary, and now it's Lisa's turn.  In 2021, Lisa finally met Nick Gallo in person at the SCCE conference, and they talk about how they became "conference BFFs."  In the episode, they talk about the importance of ethical decision-making and how to empower employees to do that.  In particular, they also discuss how to grow and stretch yourself by doing things that scare you, and that's where Lisa committed to her annual solo episode. The release date is also the last day of the 2022 SCCE CEI, and Mary and Lisa will be back next week with their joint episode which will include some event highlights. The Great Women in Compliance podcast is excited to look at topics like this one, and we are always open to suggestions for guests. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  For the next two weeks, the GWIC team are presenting a collab with ComplianceLine: GWIC X The Ethics Experts!  Mary and Lisa start their throwback Wednesday sessions by harking all the way back to the early days of COVID19, where Mary's episode was recorded while she was in the New Zealand coronavirus lockdown. Gio Gallo interviewed Mary about her leadership style – especially focused on giving (junior) staff substantive, meaningful work and wings to fly while setting out a safety net, how not to slip into complacency in your Compliance program by being reassured of historical achievements and understanding that there is no lowest common denominator.  Learn how you can use surveys to tap into your most vulnerable areas you don't even know you have.  Check out Lisa's interview on the Ethics Experts, here on the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on 19 October!  On 26 October, Mary and Lisa will return to their regular programming with a joint episode on learnings, insights and observations from the Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics Compliance and Ethics Institute.  Want to be a part of the fun?  Introduce yourself to Lisa and Mary at the conference – you'll be able to spot them by their GWIC tote bags that Lisa kindly procured for the duo. The Great Women in Compliance podcast is excited to look at topics like this one, and we are always open to suggestions for guests. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In late 2018, Mary and Lisa began advertising the launch of the Great Women in Compliance podcast, which would air on 6 December 2018. Margarita Derelanko was one of the people who saw the marketing collateral and grew excited about the incoming podcast. She affords Lisa and Mary the opportunity to hear what the launch of the podcast was like from the other side of the fence – the to-date missing aspect of their origin story – what the listenership was thinking and how the podcast was received. Margarita shares how the podcast has impacted her life, including her takeaways from having her first article published, and the benefits she has gained from the encouragement of the hosts and guests. Unlike many of the GWIC and certainly unlike Mary and Lisa, Margarita had the opportunity to choose whether or not to be in Compliance and she shares what it's like for the new generation to consider joining the field – spoiler alert, Compliance Destiny appears yet again! It's a real thing folks! Margarita shares some advice for helping to overcome biases when you don't look like you fit the part. She is of very small stature and is lucky enough to have youthful looks – causing some to make unfair judgments. Listen in for how she overcomes the biases and consider how you can turn some of your perceived greatest weaknesses into a strength. Following on from Mia Reini's tips for putting together an engaging line up for the The Home Depot's Compliance Summit, Margarita lends some tips from her experience on the planning team for the Waud Capital Partner's Compliance Symposium to have a successful event. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. One of the key components of a compliance program is a risk assessment. However, how to develop the right one for your organization is an art, not a science, as is how to best use the findings and report the results. In this episode, Rebecca Walker, one of the founders of Kaplan & Walker LLP, takes a deep dive into the subject. Rebecca has been in the compliance field for over 20 years, and has always been an advocate for a holistic and well-rounded view of compliance. She speaks regularly on many topics, and here, Lisa and Rebecca talk about various aspects of risk assessments including how to tailor your risk assessment to your organization, or if you know there is a risk, do you need to then do an assessment. They also touch on the distinction between risk assessments and program assessments. Rebecca also talks about the beginning of her career in a large law firm, and the challenges of starting her own firm, both in general and as a woman. She recounts a story about her 1st day that illustrates both the fear and excitement of starting out. The Great Women in Compliance podcast is excited to look at topics like this one, and we are always open to suggestions for guests. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Even if we weren't in Compliance, the need to hold difficult conversations is part and parcel of participating in life in the human race.  And it's also true that Compliance Officers sometimes need to deliver bad news or talk people out of ideas they are very attached to.  These responsibilities can lead to the need to invite important stakeholders to a crucial conversation with complex emotions involved.  Donna Schneider returns to the GWIC podcast to give us a lesson on Crucial Conversations after teaching courses on this topic in the past.  Since Donna last appeared on the show, she has been busy with her Compliance portfolio and shares an update on what she's been up to with respect to risk assessments.  Donna shares her best tips for successfully navigating difficult conversations and difficult people on the other end.  Mindset is key and Donna sets us up for success from this perspective.  She outlines some of the pitfalls that can be problematic for miscommunication and misunderstanding between people to help you avoid some of the common mistakes that are made, leading to fraught feelings.  If you're interested in improving your communication with all stakeholders in your life and increasing successful outcomes in challenging conversations, this episode is just for you!  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.   The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, Lisa speaks with Megan Zwiebel, who is Director of Operations & Delivery at R&G Insights Lab, which is an analytics and behavioral science practice, affiliated with the law firm Ropes & Gray. Megan started her career at a large law firm at a litigator, and used her natural curiosity and skill set to move into journalism, and now into her current role, where she and the team are helping to build innovative and practical solutions for organizations and legal practices in using data and science. In this discussion, Megan talks about how the R&G Insights Lab compliments traditional law firm work, and how it is different, with respect to supporting E&C programs. She talks about the importance of "telling the story," and how we can best use these tools to build our programs and to work cross-functionally. Like Lisa, Megan started her career at a large law firm, and they discuss some of their similar and different experiences in those first jobs, and how that impacted their work and career trajectories. She shares some of the law firm evolution she has seen, and how women in leadership is inspiring and impacts law firm culture. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. The Great Women in Compliance team are always pleased to observe progress whenever the library of Compliance offerings grows.  Ola Tucker published a book all about Anti-money laundering in July 2022, called “The Flow of Illicit Funds: A case study approach to anti-money laundering compliance” and Mary spoke with Ola about several of the topics included in the book.  Fun fact: Ola is also a contributor to GWIC work “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance”.  Ola explains the impetus for the book, why she went with a case study approach to presenting the information, some money laundering pitfalls, the dangers of cryptocurrency in relation to AML and how AML impacts terrorist financing. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Eleanor Roosevelt (at least it is attributed to her) said "do something that scares you every day."  There have been a lot of scary things over the past few years, but the idea of leaving your comfort zone is an important one.  Last November, Lisa told Nick Gallo on the Ethics Experts podcast, that she fears doing solo episodes, and made a vow to herself that she would do that once a year.  It's August, and here is that episode. Lisa talks about a few topics.  One thing that is top of mind is what makes a great E&C leader and manager, and she goes through the things that are important to her and what she has learned from her managers and organization leaders.  Not surprisingly, being loyal, listening, and empowering team members to try new ideas are just a few of the qualities of note. Lisa had also said that she would follow along with Matt Kelly's lead and try to speak with the Blenderbot AI tool about ethics and compliance.  The discussion started with why pizza dough was important and had some highlights including that lean manufacturing is a tool to help avoid corrupt behavior, a few references to presidential pardons, and ended with blenderbot saying it also works as an attorney for a large corporation as its alter ego.  The discussion highlights the issues of using AI and bots, and shows how it is "learning" from the crowd that uses/takes it over. Lisa ends with some things on her mind in E&C as we come towards the end of 2022 , and hopes that you enjoy this episode, it makes you think, and that you will reach out with comments and thoughts.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here. 

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Deb Barrett is Chief Compliance Officer of Qualcomm.  She shares some insights of what it was like being in a company that has undergone some regulatory scrutiny.  She and Mary Shirley discuss some ways to combat Compliance fatigue – important for any company with a robust Compliance program to consider but particularly ones that have prioritized Compliance initiatives for a period of years.  The episode is rich with takeaways and ideas, including Deb's thoughts on Compliance KPIs.  Are you planning on heading to the SCCE CEI in Phoenix in October?  Check out Lisa and Mary's speaking sessions on the agenda and sign up!  We invite you to say hello and introduce yourself during the conference – it's going to be a great time.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review. You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. A critical topic for any ethics and compliance program is the ability for employees to raise concerns - from the initial speak-up process to the interview to the potential for retaliation: Shannon Walker, the founder, and CEO at WhistleBlower Security, Confidential Ethics Reporting & Case Management Solutions. Shannon started in communications for large organizations in the US and Canada. She founded WhistleBlower Security with a vision to make the process easier and more comfortable for reporters while protecting organizations.  Lisa and Shannon have a wide-ranging conversation about the differences between telephone and online reporters, a provider's responsibility to reporters and how that relates to their responsibilities to an organization and different ideas about how organizations can best "triage" in all parts of the investigation cycle. Shannon has always been committed to diversity and ESG, and she also talks about how becoming a "B Corp" has been a great learning process and an excellent accomplishment. Are you planning on heading to the SCCE CEI in Phoenix in October?  Check out Lisa and Mary's speaking sessions on the agenda and sign up!  We invite you to say hello and introduce yourself during the conference – it's going to be a great time. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings to listen to.  If you enjoy this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other like-minded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights, where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the podcast's story.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it, and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Today's guest is Sarah Powell. Sarah is the kind of person who makes everyone around her stronger. Her work in ethics and Compliance is directly related to her commitment to social justice and making a positive impact through anti-bribery and anti-corruption work. Lisa can vouch for that as she works with Sarah as Global Compliance Counsel, Director, Third-Party ABC Compliance at Pearson. Sarah returned to her home in South Africa from London at the beginning of the pandemic and had her daughter. She discussed how both of these events had impacted her. In particular, she talks about some of her experiences during quarantine, how they showed the resilience in South Africa and how the pandemic could also breed corruption. She also shares her views on what those of us outside South Africa can learn from their experiences, particularly how they talk about the past and issues. This episode is a great reminder of why we do this work and how we can directly influence society as a whole. Are you planning on heading to the SCCE CEI in Phoenix in October? Check out Lisa and Mary's speaking sessions on the agenda and sign up! We invite you to say hello and introduce yourself during the conference it's going to be a great time. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings to listen to. If you enjoy this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other like-minded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights, where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the podcast's story. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book" "Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance" (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it, and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Mary met Archana Shastri on her first day of work as Legal and Compliance Counsel at Tata Communications in Singapore in 2010.  The two were peers and became fast friends, bonding quickly as two of the quieter colleagues and, in fact, the only two Compliance colleagues in the Singapore headquarters.  Archana, though now a Singaporean citizen, originally hails from India, and Mary asked Archana about some of the country's cultural characteristics that might be of interest to Compliance Officers.  Archana also generally shares an update on the Asia Pacific region and comments on levels of activity from some of the local Compliance regulators and authorities.  Mary asked Archana what she would like European and US-headquartered companies to know about the Asia Pacific region – Mary wholeheartedly stands behind Archana's points on this one!  Archana also details what it was like to study for her Master's Degree in Anti-Corruption studies, a course based in Vienna.  Archana wraps up the episode with some general commentary on the state and development of data privacy law in the Asia Pacific region.  Are you planning on heading to the SCCE CEI in Phoenix in October?  Check out Lisa and Mary's speaking sessions on the agenda and sign up!  We invite you to say hello and introduce yourself during the conference – it's going to be a great time. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings to listen to.  If you enjoy this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other like-minded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights, where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the podcast's story.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book, "Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance" (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it, and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In this week's episode of Great Women in Compliance, Mary brings the team back from break with an interview with Mia Reini, a Compliance leader at the Home Depot. Mia tells us about her efforts to bring Home Depot's Compliance awareness initiatives external to the company as a goal, discusses the difference between risk management and compliance, and gives tips for policy governance. We often get asked whether we accept recommendations or nominations for GWIC guests – the answer is absolutely! We'll be happy to receive any suggestions and feedback – send them through to podcast@greatwomenincompliance.com detailing what makes the individual stand out as a great woman in compliance. Please note that we are not an advertising agency and do not accept nominations for vendor marketing to ensure consistently high-quality episodes. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings to listen to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other like-minded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights, where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the podcast's story. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it, and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Mary and Lisa end the second GWIC semester with Wendy Badger. Wendy is Global Compliance Counsel at Tennant Company, where she oversees their global ethics and compliance program. She has worked in-house and in law firms, taking her experiences from one space and applying them to others. She is also an author, regular speaker, friend, and mentor to many - and one of the "OG GWICS" who has made this community grow. Lisa and Wendy discuss a number of different topics, starting with remote investigations, which is top of mind for many of us these days. They talk about pitfalls, lessons learned, and some practical tips, including one from Wendy about how she makes interviewees more comfortable. They also talk about the impact of remote work on networking over the past few years, focusing on women and how that may change as the world continues to open up. Wendy also shares some of her favorite advice and how she has made some of that advice her own. She also told Lisa what has now become one of the best stories about public speaking on the podcast! GWIC is going on vacation for the next few weeks but will be back on July 20. We hope everyone remembers to take some time off - whether off social media, off from work, or just time for yourself. The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings to listen to. If you enjoy this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other like-minded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights, where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it, and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.  Trigger warning: This episode contains a baby loss story and theme.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast often covers instances of “doing the right thing”.  We've previously done it regarding respect and dignity in the hiring process and today's episode focuses on empathy and compassion by employers when employees suffer a tragedy.  Jill Atstupenas shares her and her husband's story of losing their dearly desired baby girl, Hadley Maeve and provides some thoughtful considerations for how managers and company staff more broadly can respond in a way that shows support for the colleague and lets them know they are a valued member of staff.  Her ideas are practical, tangible and actionable items that will guide managers who truly care about their staff.  The title of today's episode is our tribute to Hadley Maeve.  Jill also discusses how peers and other colleagues can help a colleague going through a difficult time to navigate it so that even if you're not a manager, you can walk the walk of being a beacon of integrity in an organization.  We end the episode with Jill discussing some of the differences for Compliance Officers transitioning from a well-established large company, to a smaller one with less of a history.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We've Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast. Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.