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Save 20% on all NuZest Products with the code MIKKI20 at www.nuzest.co.nz and www.www.nuzest.com.au This week on the podcast Mikki speaks to Art Green, best known as the first NZ Bachelor, now health and wellbeing advocate, podcast and TV host, husband to Matilda and Dad to Milo and Autumn and all around decent human being. They discuss Clean Paleo, Plate Up and the lessons being in business taught him. They discuss his podcast and controversy behind the Paleo Pete episode, Bachelor and meeting his now wife Matilda (which cast both of them in the spotlight) and what is important now for them both in terms of how they want to spend their time. Such a great, honest chat with one of the most popular NZ celebs.Art can be found on IG @art_greenWell & Good podcast: https://roarcollective.podbean.com/Contact Mikki:https://mikkiwilliden.com/https://www.facebook.com/mikkiwillidennutritionhttps://www.instagram.com/mikkiwilliden/https://linktr.ee/mikkiwillidenSave 20% on all NuZest Products with the code MIKKI20 at www.nuzest.co.nz and www.nuzest.com.au Save 30% on Hoka One One with the code TEAMMIKKI at www.Hoka.co.nz

To stay updated with new episodes of the Job Hunting Podcast, click here and sign up for my weekly newsletter. You also receive valuable resources from me to help your career journey, and it is absolutely free! Podcast Episode Timestamps: 04:58 - Two ex-pats stuck in Australia: there are worst places to be, but it still hurts 08:22 - Renata explains The Job Hunting Podcast to Michelle 10:55 - Michelle's career story  14:37 - Michelle's career transition 17:53 - Studying for a career change 19:36 - The truth about sugar 27:36 - Renata shares her experience with food, bad nutrition, and what it did to her mental health 30:26 - Michele's recommendation: when you are grieving the loss of a job 34:52 - Michele's recommendation: to help you perform better 39:55 - Michele's #1 tip: the best diet 45:11 - How does healthy fat help you? 49:42 - The importance of sleep and the quad factor Links mentioned in this episode: Episode 54: The importance of staying healthy and positive while looking for a job - with wellbeing expert Susan Hunter Episode 74: The OG of career change: From Accountant to Mindfulness Consultant, plus a 10-min meditation for job-hunters - featuring Ilana Kosakiewicz Episode 47: Well-being, digital health, and startup jobs - With startup entrepreneur, Co-Founder & CEO of Mindset Health Alex Naoumidis Episode 26: Menopause and work: How menopause affects your career - Part 1 Episode 27: Menopause and work: How uncertainty and stress impact women's career - Part 2 (COVID Series) Episode 81: A career coach's top tip for job interview preparation to guarantee your best performance. About our guest, Michele Chevalley Hedge: Michele Chevalley Hedge was previously a marketing manager, so she truly understands the needs of time-poor corporate executives who, family or not, want health but not hassle. Health magazine editors often introduce her as “the modern-day nutritionist – the one who likes a bit of wine and coffee.” She is not Paleo Pete, or I Quit Sugar but perfectly placed somewhere in the healthy middle. Michele's clinical practice and experience allow her to share stories of patients and their nutritional transformation, which give the audience goosebumps – the kinds of stories that can only be heard if you are at the coal face with clients. Women who say their addiction to food caused their divorce; executives who say they don't like going to the boardroom without her five top tips; and politicians, and their families, who come to her wellness retreats. Recognizing her sensible approach to nutrition, four years ago, Wiley Publishing commissioned Michele to write Beating Sugar Addictions for Dummies.  Every week, Michele works with major banks in Australia – Westpac, CBA, ANZ, HSBC, and corporations like Apple, Dropbox, Dexus, News.com, MFAA, Women in Focus, ACCOR, Westfield, Department of Defence, Tourism Portfolio, Heart Research Australia, Cure Cancer, and schools and education events. She is the keynote speaker for the Heads of Schools of Australia and the Positive Schools Conference in Hong Kong. Michele is also an ambassador for Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution and the launch of THAT SUGAR FILM. Michele is the Nature Care College Ambassador, Cure Cancer Ambassador, and Heart Research Institute Ambassador and consults for 100's on international corporations. She recently sat alongside the Dalai Lama at a conference where she presented on ‘Vitality, Energy and Serotonin – It's all in Your Food.' Mental health and nutrition research is her passion, and she often declares, “It makes the New Yorker come out in her.” SPECIAL DISCOUNT CODE FOR LISTENERS: use the code: 25%offLSL when signing up to Michelle's Low Sugar Lifestyle Program Connect with Michele: Website Facebook Instagram LinkedIn Twitter Youtube Are you new to The Job Hunting Podcast? If so, here is a bit about your host: Hello, I'm Renata Bernarde, the Host of The Job Hunting Podcast. I'm also a virtual career coach, job hunting expert, and career strategist. I teach professionals in the corporate, non-profit, and public sectors the steps and frameworks to help them find great jobs, change, and advance their careers with confidence and less stress.  If you are 1) an ambitious professional who is keen to develop a robust career plan, 2) looking to find your next job or promotion, or 3) you want to keep a finger on the pulse of the job market so that when you ready and an opportunity arises, you can hit the ground running – then this podcast is for you. In addition to The Job Hunting Podcast, I have… Created a series of free tools and resources. Developed a range of courses and services for professionals in career or job transition. And, of course, I also... Coach private clients.  So there is no excuse – I'm determined to help you! I want you to feel empowered, nail your next job, and have the career you want. 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What are you more afraid of? Needles or carbs? In this Health Guru inspired episode- hosts, Jess and Maudie take on Pete Evans A.K.A Paleo Pete and turtle neck loving Elizabeth Holmes and by proxy, their associates "The Lizard People".

Hello friends, It's Friday so we're back in your ears again with some juicy topics. Apologies for the lack of energy, we've had a hectic work week and the vibe was a bit off when recording, but the chats are still good! Ailish tackles the Paleo Pete debacle. Pete Evans has made headlines again after posting a meme, which featured a caterpillar wearing the MAGA hat, talking to a butterfly with a Black Sun aka nazi symbol on its wing, and captioned it “an oldie but a Goldie”. She references this Mamamia article by Billi Fitzsimons, which wraps up all the drama nicely, and this tweet by writer Benjamin Law. Next up, Bella takes us into the rose-tinted world of the wonder that is Harry Styles. We talk about his confidence in breaking gender stereotypes by wearing a dress as the first solo male cover shoot in US Vogue history, and why clothing has no gender and masculinity is more than what you wear. She talks about this piece by Chelsea McLaughlin (sorry, it's a Mamamia overload this week) and also references this great article by Priya Elan for The Guardian. Nicolette segues nicely into the fashion trend we didn't know we needed; chunky dad sandals. We talk about this Sydney Morning Herald Style article by Melissa Singer and dive into the cyclical nature of fashion. Plus we recommend a skin care product, a podcast to listen to and a Netflix show to binge. Thanks for listening, we'll be in your ears again next week! Connect with the podcast on Instagram and follow us on TikTok. You can find Bella, Nicolette and Ailish on Instagram too.

What are you more afraid of? Needles or carbs? In this Health Guru inspired episode- hosts, Jess and Maudie take on Pete Evans A.K.A Paleo Pete and turtle neck loving Elizabeth Holmes and by proxy, their associates "The Lizard People".

Episode 32 feat. Adam, Toddy, Todd and SteveMac. Come send it with the boys as we discuss, Anus eyes, lung butter, Dry July, music festivals, porn stashed in the woods, Steve's shit nipples, Fat Joe's tinny dick, Daniel Johns, Gaping Garry's gooch, Paleo Pete, P's into V's, powdered Gatorade and collective nouns...

In this episode, the fellas discuss the massive weekend of sport, South Canterbury's claim to the invention of airplanes and a chef weighs in on the validity of vaccination. Plus, we get to some of your yarns including a cracker from Blake about Gloriavale. Don't forget if you want to sponsor the podcast just give us a 5-star rating and leave your business' name in the review section and we'll blast it out on the poddy!

It's another compilation of the best bits from this past week on the Annie and Ando show. We're talking Paleo Pete, giving Ando's Chip Challenge an aquatic twist and helping... LEARN MORE The post Best Bits: Paleo Pete, Ando's Chip Challenge, Ask Annie & Ando Anything appeared first on Annie and Ando.

In today’s episode I get to chat to the one & only Pete Evans, a celebrity chef, an author, a documentary producer, a father to two teen girls & husband to Nicola. Pete is not only known in Australia and across the globe as a celebrity chef from My Kitchen Rules and The Paleo Way. Pete is also well recognised for the beautiful and often controversial voice that he gives to alternative ways of living, being & doing. As many of us know, Pete frequently hits the headlines and is labeled a conspiracist by most media outlets, who incessantly try to dispute his comments as he continually pushes the envelope by challenging the status quo through questioning the narrative of mainstream thinking. I absolutely love Pete's incredible tenacity and passion for sharing information to help people see more broadly, think more openly and question absolutely everything! Like many of you, I first became aware of Pete from My Kitchen Rules and it became very obvious that Pete's passion for the Paleo Way and his desire to empower people to take their health into their own hands was something he was completely evangelistic about. Raising topics like self care, self education, self governance and encouraging people to try something different to “see how it felt for them and their bodies” was refreshing and exactly the guidance that many people were searching for. With so many topics that are hot right now and that Pete Evans is passionate about, there are obviously a multitude of different directions I could take this interview in, however, today I want to understand more about Pete Evans.   Links: https://peteevans.com https://www.instagram.com/chefpeteevans/

In this episode, Matty & Manaia re-visit NZ's answer to the Tiger King, check-in with Paleo Pete's latest conspiracy theories and discuss the possibility of New Zealand having a relapse after one is triggered in South Korea by "The SuperSpreader". All that plus not a whole lot more! Rate, review, like, subscribe, upvote, unsubscribe, dislike, match on Tinder.

0:00:00 Introduction Richard Saunders 0:03:14 Conspiracy updates with Ben Radford Ben is a writer, investigator, and skeptic. He has authored, co-authored or contributed to over twenty books and written over a thousand articles and columns on a wide variety of topics including urban legends, unexplained mysteries, the paranormal, critical thinking, mass hysteria, and media literacy. https://squaringthestrange.libsyn.com/ 0:27:08 The Diet Skeptic. With Mandy-Lee Noble An update to the story on Pete Evans who has parted with the Ch.7 TV network. We hear about some more of his antics and links to bizarre conspiracies. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/08/australian-celebrity-chef-pete-evans-under-fire-for-sharing-views-of-uk-conspiracy-theorist-david-icke https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/reality-tv/pete-evans-and-channel-7-part-ways-after-tv-chef-was-fined-25000-by-tga/news-story/2881a77a153405e068df9ca49dfea5e1 0:35:23 Logical Fallacies. With Michelle Bijkersma This week Michelle looks at "The Middle Ground". Also known as “False Compromise” and the “Argument to moderation”, this is when it’s asserted that the truth of the matter lies between two extremes and casts doubt on a well reasoned and evidence based conclusion. A Logical Fallacy is an error we can make in reasoning, but it usually crops up when we are discussing or arguing our point of view. 0:40:03 Australian Skeptics Newsletter #97 Skepticon 2020 update - Paleo Pete hit with TGA fine - Anti-vax political party changes name despite objections - David Icke kicked off Facebook - Supermarkets scrap dangerous conspiracy magazine. https://www.skeptics.com.au Also Corona Conspiracy - Upload Images https://coronaconspiracy.cloud Maynard MADD Club LIVE https://www.facebook.com/Maynardcomau Skepticon 2020 https://www.gcskeptics.com/skepticon-2020

Do you take responsibility for your health? ..or even your life as a whole? This interview with Pete dove deep into the lack of introspection that is common among society but that which is necessary to achieve great health and be able to live happy lives! As well of course we talked about nutrition, paleo, nose to tail, intermittent fasting, keto and what it means to be human!On This Episode We Discuss:Taking responsibility for the state of your health and life How and why a family can financially survive on a healthy diet and lifestyle How ancient cultures and civilizations ate in order to survive and how we can learn to do the same! *****Discovery Call: https://calendly.com/mattylansdown/discovery-call-the-ultimate-energy-upgrade*****--SOCIAL MEDIA--PETE EVANSInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/chefpeteevans/ Website: https://peteevans.com/ --MATTY LANSDOWNInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattylansdown/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matty-lansdown-0bb76b61/Website: https://mattylansdown.com/--Join the Facebook Group Here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/HealthHacksForHumans/--Got a question? Or maybe even a guest suggestion? Email through - podcast@mattylansdown.com--Thanks for checking out the show. If you enjoyed this episode and want to hear more then please consider subscribing. If you really loved this episode and want to just tell the world about it then please take a screen shot and share it on your Instagram story and be sure to tag me so I know you're tuning in. 5 star ratings and positive reviews really help the podcast too so thank you in advance!......Music credits:Intro/Outro track Tropic Love by "Diviners feat. Contacreast" www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoJfqJsGk8shttps://www.bensound.com/

Nothing winds up my anti-diet nutritionist guest Tara Leong more than the influencer-led anti-sugar movement. She is in FITS of rage - to the point of goosebumps - about the mountains of misinformation being spread as liberally as nut butter. She’s LIVID about harm being done to innocent people who are being told that they’ll risk giving their kids cancer if they eat bananas. She is OUTRAGED by the misleading tactics being used by these for-profit companies who aren’t able to print the truth on their nutrition labels. She is f***ed off about fructose. And don’t even get her STARTED on the fruit pyramid! Join us for a much needed discussion about the anti-sugar movement, Tara’s attempts to reach out to Australia’s anti-sugar guru Sarah Wilson, and Sarah’s foray into mental health advice. This is one hell of a conversation!     ShowNotes My guest is Tara Leong from The Nutritionist & The Chef, and she is fired up to the point of GOOSEBUMPS about the influencer-lead I Quit Sugar (IQS) trend! Sugar is definitely public enemy #1 right now, and this global sense of fear is impacting everyone, from all ages and all walks of life. We’ve seen various foods demonised over the years, from fats, to carbs, and now sugars. And leaders of these food fad movements have historically been weight loss gurus or medical professionals. But the anti-sugar trend seems to be dominated by “influencers” spruiking their lifestyle brands. There have been some medical professionals - like Dr Lustig who loves to crow about sugar. But in Australia, the shiny beautiful people, like Sarah Wilson, are really heading up the anti sugar movement. Tara commends Sarah for raising awareness about how we can take care of our bodies, but the messages put out via her “I Quit Sugar” social media channels and in the book “I Quit Sugar” are not based on science and are destructive, especially with regards to the impact these messages have on people’s relationship with food. The whole Sarah Wilson/“I Quit Sugar” phenomenon traces back to 2011. Sarah is a journalist and was the ex editor of Cosmopolitan magazine, back then she was a judge on the first season of Masterchef. After that she moved to Byron Bay and began to freelance, writing articles for newspapers. She literally didn’t have a topic for an article one week, and had read David Gillespie’s “Sweet Poison” book (Gillespie is a lawyer). So she did an experiment quitting sugar, wrote about it, and the “I Quit Sugar” machine was born. She started to sell e-books and from there it became a massive empire. She caught the Zeitgeist - just at the start of the anti-sugar climate. Plus, she’s pretty and can write well, and is well connected. This also came at the tail end of the low-fat movement, when research began to recognise that fat wasn’t actually a villain - so we needed a new villain. Enter sugar! Wellness industry 101: 1. Find the villain, 2. Find very vague modern health symptoms like ‘brain fog’ or ‘bloating’, and blame this on the villain, 3. Use your own vague health symptoms to glowing health story as ‘proof’, 4. Sell people a rule-based program to rid themselves of aforementioned villain. I Quit Sugar (IQS) requires people to stop eating any added sugars for 8 weeks. This was beautifully skewered on “The Katering Show”, 2 comedians with a parody cooking show who did a great job of showing, through comedy, just how awful it is to quit sugar. Modern influencers are using this tactic of telling their own stories, of sharing their own tales of ‘recovery’ from vague health symptoms, to sell their ideas. Influencers use their humanity, their accessibility, they are friendly and you feel like you know them. Whereas health professionals are discouraged from sharing their own stories with clients as it is not seens as ‘professional’, especially in psychology where the space is created for the client, not the psychologist. Influencers use their stories as aspirations, as hope - and of course, thinness! “If you eat like me, you’ll end up being like me as I eat zoodles on my $20000 table! Some of the claims in IQS are quite strange. Sarah talks about having Graves disease, and then later on, Hashimoto’s hypothyroidism, which pricked up Louise’s ears, as she has Hashimotos’. She is of the understanding that this condition is largely genetic, and no-one is really sure as to why it switches on. As someone with the condition, Louise has to take a pill every day and has blood tests every 3 months. It is not an easy condition to control - it is something that is always changing. Louise knows that what you eat has bugger all to do with developing Hashimotos’. But on IQS Sarah implies - strongly - that quitting sugar will cure it. Sarah’s claim that a change in her sugar consumption ‘cured’ it ignores the fact that she also takes medication to control it. This is a confound - you cannot claim that autoimmune disease can be cured by not eating sugar if you’re taking meds at the same time. If you want to promote eating in a way that makes you feel good, there’s no issue. But if you want to demonise one thing - ie sugar - there’s an issue! Tara also recognises the wonderful array of nutrients that can be excluded when you promote something as stringent as IQS. A while ago, Tara found a very fancy looking ‘fruit pyramid’ which was presented in a similar way to the old ‘food pyramid’ which used to be promoted as a way to eat. A pyramid is where foods on the bottom are ‘eat lot’ and foods on the top are don’t eat’, or ‘eat very little of’. So the team at IQS developed a fruit hierarchy, and at the top there were bananas! And the fruits you can eat ‘every day’ are berries! Raspberries, lemons & avocados. Now Tara needs to unpack this. Firstly, avocados are not a fruit. Botanically, yes, but not nutritionally - they don’t provide carbohydrates, they provide more fats. Who’s going to slice up a lemon for a tasty snack?! “I really struggle with the ethics of telling people they can only eat raspberries”. Tara calculated that for a family of 4, in order to meet nutritional requirements, a family of 4 would spend around $250 per week on raspberries alone. This is privileged, ridiculous nonsense. To not have even thought of things like expense? And the comments from people thanking IQS for telling them that bananas were dangerous. Tara had a heartbreaking message from a mum who was having a huge panic attack because she was so worried she’s given her kids cancer. The no. 1 pathway into an eating disorder nowadays, for Louise’s clients anyway, is this huge fear of foods and what are considered ‘healthy’ foods. The pro-IQS community really seem to disregard the risk of eating disorder development. Like it’s ‘not a thing’. In preparation for this podcast, Louise has been reading Sarah Wilson’s latest book “First, we Make the Beast Beautiful”. This is her story and she really is open about her lifelong mental health struggles. In it she reveals she had a childhood diagnosis of severe anxiety and insomnia, in her teens severe OCD, and then bulimia, and then bipolar disorder. Louise admires Sarah for writing such a raw and real book about the reality of living with severe mental illness. She is clearly a very intelligent person. But you can see the anxiety in the pages. You can see the pressure of the bipolar. So here is the ethical question - should authors with diagnoses such as these be giving full disclosure before giving out ‘dietary advice’? Especially when one of the diagnoses is an eating disorder? So here we are in the land of the ‘influencer’. Sarah is a journalist who has gone & obtained a health coaching ‘credential’ with the Institute of Integrative Nutrition in New York. Tara has something to say about this Institute. This Institute looks pretty impressive. On their website it says you can study for 6 months and get the health coaching certificate. But you don’t study physiology, chemistry, or anatomy. You just study all the different types of diets out there and whether or not they’re ‘good’. “If I was running an Institute where I’m comparing diets I’d be like - let’s close, because none of them work”! So the degree should be - everything doesn’t work. Here’s your piece of paper! Go out & tell everyone why your diet won’t work - how good would that be! Tara has found that the IQS people always claim that it’s not a diet. They always claim that it’s not restrictive. But Tara cannot fathom how telling someone to cut out a whole food source for 8 weeks is not restrictive? Modern diet culture tells people, if you’re not counting calories it’s not a diet. The recipes are interesting, often full of rice malt syrup, which is of course, sugar. For a while, Louise remembers seeing a whole row of IQS baking products - cakes etc - in the supermarket. And they got in trouble for not being honest on their labels about how much sugar was in them. They only wrote down the sugar content before the rice malt syrup was added, which is of course totally misleading for consumers.* Tara finds this highly unethical & wonders how this was able to happen according to Australian laws surrounding nutrition panels. Rice malt syrup is sugar derived from rice. It does not contain fructose, but it is definitely still sugar. Louise went into a book shop to read IQS. There was a whole page on why you have to quit sugar: because of fructose. So what’s the deal with fructose? Fructose is found naturally in fruit. In the USA, it is manufactured from corn, resulting in what is called high fructose corn syrup (HFCS). This is a highly concentrated version of fructose. This is put into soft drink, in the USA - not in Australia. We use sugar cane syrup, so the fructose is at much lower levels of concentration. Research on the health issues linking consumption of HFCS has been done mostly on rats and mice, and they have been exposed to mega-doses of HFCS in these experiments. So we cannot say that the health problems are happening because of the HFCS or just the mega dose. We could all develop health problems if we mega dosed on broccoli! We also can’t generalise rodent studies to human health. So the problem we have is someone not trained in physiology reads these studies and jumps to enormous conclusions. Just because some American rats OD’d on high fructose corn syrup doesn’t mean we shouldn’t eat bananas! Most of the people spouting the IQS ideas are not adequately qualified or trained in the science of nutrition. There are some medical people talking about it, but they tend to be the exception rather than the rule. Many influencers are not reading the research thoroughly or just cherry picking research that supports their ideas, which is not in the spirit of science! Nutrition science is hard, and complex. The relationship between our health and what we eat is confounded by many factors. One important aspect which is never spoken about by these influencers are issues like poverty, oppression, and even the impact of dieting itself, and the anxiety and food guilt created by such nervous attention to food. What Tara doesn’t like is when a professional such as herself speaks up - in a calm manner - to enquire about the harm being potentially done - and they don’t engage. So with the fruit pyramid issue, Tara politely enquired if the IQS people could share with her the research to support the pyramid. They responded by saying there is ‘lots out there’, but also said that the IQS program is not based on science but a “gentle experiment”. This is mind blowing - telling people they can’t eat bananas, telling them to eat only expensive fruits, charging people $99 for this program, making promises to reduce weight and depression - but none of it is based on science? Tara cannot fathom how that is ok to do that to people. “You can’t give a rigid rule and then call it a gentle experiment” - that’s gaslighting. This is modern diet culture. Everything’s exactly the same. We’ve still got the rigid rules, we’ve still got the ‘this is the way to diet’. Except we’re no longer allowed to call it a diet, or pursue weight loss. We’ve got to talk about wellness or healing really ill defined things. And then use the language of self compassion to turn this into something loving and gentle. And its really not! So, IQS is huge - it has made millions of dollars. Last year Sarah decided to shut the IQS company and move on. She’s very much into the environment etc, reducing food waste. And she’s written the book, First, we Make the Beast Beautiful, a very detailed account of her complex mental health issues. And the question is, should she have disclosed this while she was selling IQS? Louise can understand why she wouldn’t have, this is very personal and private information. But if someone has a history of severe mental illness and an eating disorder, jumping on the food advice bandwagon is, in Louise’s opinion, of concern. In a recent article from the UK, Sarah was interviewed by a reported who had an eating disorder background herself, and the interview did not go well for Sarah. Through the reporter’s eyes, Sarah presented as someone who still had eating issues. And the interview did claim that Sarah had given up on quitting sugar, a claim which Sarah has since vehemently denied. Sarah has claimed she was misquoted, and IQS has done an interview with Sarah to present her side. Tara contacted Sarah on social media to ask her if she had quit the IQS movement, and also put some questions to her regarding the potential harm that IQS has caused. Sarah then posted that she had been bullied by Tara, and by the journalist. She also said that someone with mental health issues should never be bullied. Tara then apologised, and asked for clarification about what Sarah felt had been misquoted in the article. She offered Sarah the opportunity to detail what was wrong about the article and said she would share this with her followers in order to clear it up. She gave Sarah her phone, email and other contact numbers. But she did not respond, and actually went offline for a couple of days. Tara can see how this would have been hard for Sarah - being questioned in public, on social media, about your philosophy, is not easy. Tara gets it: she has her own lived experience with PTSD, and close family members are experiencing severe mental health issues. But Tara does not think this means it is ok to hide accountability behind. She believes it may be a reason, but not an excuse. This has not been easy for Tara either - many in her profession have commended her for having the guts to speak up, some have questioned her. But she doesn’t do it for ‘reputation’ - she does it for her clients. When you see such large numbers of people being harmed by the IQS messages, it’s impossible to stay quiet. It’s not about herself. It’s about all of the people out there who are suffering, and using her voice to stick up for them. "Sometimes I feel like I have an ethical duty to speak up for the general public". In the book, it is clear that Sarah has a big heart, and a big brain. She is genuinely trying to help people, and herself. It’s not easy to live with bipolar disorder, severe anxiety, OCD. But in the book Sarah also talks about being diagnosed with an eating disorder - bulimia - and for that, she has not had treatment. She has had all kinds of treatment for her anxiety. But not for the eating issues, which are very much absent from an otherwise very thorough exploration of her mental health. Louise is a biased too, with her eating disorder hat on, but surely that aspect of mental health has to come into this too? Understanding anxiety is important, and an eating disorder for many people is a way of controlling anxiety by controlling food. Sarah talks frequently about her anxiety as a constant grasping at things to give her a sense of safety in the world. So you can see how controlling what she eats, and having clear lists of foods to eat, could control her anxiety. This kind of connection is not made in the book. And for Louise, it’s a missing piece. People writing self help books are in a position of power. It’s not ok to put responsibility back into the lap of the consumer! Tara has copped criticism for calling Sarah out on this topic, even from fellow health professionals. But she asks: where do we draw the line? Do people have carte blanche to just say anything they like, and then withdraw responsibility by citing poor mental health? We’re grappling now with this question, if someone has a mental health issue can they say anything, cause harm, and that’s ok? Trump’s feelings are also potentially hurt, but people are much less upset about it! Is this a gender thing? What would have happened if it was Paleo Pete coming out with a history of severe mental health issues!? We don’t have the answers, but it is important to have this conversation. Tara has reflected and learned a lot from this experience. Maybe Sarah Wilson has, who knows? Tara’s hope is that if a nutrition professional reaches out to an influencer, they’ll at least listen and have that conversation. If Tara was told that some of her advice had caused harm, she’d be concerned and working at understanding the situation and make sure it doesn’t happen again. But we don’t see this with influencers. The Paleo Pete disaster when he wanted to publish a book with a ‘bone broth’ recipe for babies that was so dangerous it could cause death. Pete was contacted by hundreds of health professionals and organisations pleading with him not to do harm. So he self published the book anyway! Wouldn’t you at some stage check in with yourself? Or just blatantly double down? It reflects the strength of these people’s belief in their nutrition camps. Throughout Sarah’s book is peppered this assumption that sugar is bad. She even tells people that in order to fully recover from anxiety, you definitely need to quit sugar! And that’s not an interpretation, it’s down there in her book, in black & white. “You need to quit sugar. Down to 6-9 teaspoons a day”. That’s not a gentle experiment! This is written in a book for people who are living with anxiety. Because this comes from her belief system, in which anxiety is either caused or worsened by fructose, the book has all of these ideas which are very damaging and could ultimately increase people’s food anxiety. That fear of sugar will create or exacerbate the anxiety which the book is apparently all about alleviating. No-one with an eating disorder can read this book. Also, no one in a larger body can read this book - it’s very fat phobic. There is research on gut health to show that plant foods with lots of fibre can improve our gut health, and that can be linked to mental health. When you quit sugar, you likely eat more plant foods, and that increase is what’s responsible for any improvements, rather than the absence of sugar per say. In intuitive eating, it’s all about adding foods, not taking them away. What’s annoying is this increasing normalising of sugar as a bad thing across our society. Kids are picking up on it. Tara’s 5 year old daughter did a lesson in class on how much sugar was in a can of coke! She’s 5! The world that Tara & I live in - we work in the intensive care ward for eating concerns - and we are seeing people flood in, casualties of the anti-sugar crusade. Sugar is the “devil right now’, and as health professionals it is ok that we are concerned. We’re not picking on any 1 person, we’re talking about figureheads of a movement. We need to remember who we’re trying to protect. It’s our kids. Tara hopes that the influencers can see that nutrition professionals are genuinely helping people - we see genuine concern, genuine problems. Tara is not just a schill for Big Sugar! Tara was asked by “The Conversation” to write an article about the dangers of sugar. Instead, she wrote an article about the dangers of always talking about sugar in a negative way. It ended up being one of the most read articles The Conversation had ever published. Tara was blasted by anti-sugar people for ‘giving people diabetes’. All because she used her scientific knowledge to suggest a much less extreme approach to sugar. And of course people suggested she’s been paid off by “Big Sugar” to write the article. She wasn’t! Good things can happen when people push back and ask questions - for example at the end of last year, the Dietitians Association of Australia stopped taking funding from big food companies. But this absolute demonisation of one food group is just ill advised and short sighted. Resources: Find out more about Tara Leong, including her fabulous anti-diet merchandise, here. The wonderful Katering Show & its wonderful IQS satire The bizarre IQS Fruit Pyramid: The now-closed “I Quit Sugar” empire, which still sells the books etc. Sarah Wilson’s book “First, we Make the Beast Beautiful” *Here is the article about the misleading food labels on the IQS range - note that the products were not actually removed from shelves, but they were discussed as misleading. The Daily Mail article by Eve Simmons claiming that Sarah Wilson had quit quitting sugar (strongly contested by Sarah Wilson) Paleo Pete & his baby killing bone broth Tara’s amazing article in The Conversation about the dangers of talking about sugar as the new devil  

Nothing winds up my anti-diet nutritionist guest Tara Leong more than the influencer-led anti-sugar movement. She is in FITS of rage - to the point of goosebumps - about the mountains of misinformation being spread as liberally as nut butter. She’s LIVID about harm being done to innocent people who are being told that they’ll risk giving their kids cancer if they eat bananas. She is OUTRAGED by the misleading tactics being used by these for-profit companies who aren’t able to print the truth on their nutrition labels. She is f***ed off about fructose. And don’t even get her STARTED on the fruit pyramid! Join us for a much needed discussion about the anti-sugar movement, Tara’s attempts to reach out to Australia’s anti-sugar guru Sarah Wilson, and Sarah’s foray into mental health advice. This is one hell of a conversation!     ShowNotes My guest is Tara Leong from The Nutritionist & The Chef, and she is fired up to the point of GOOSEBUMPS about the influencer-lead I Quit Sugar (IQS) trend! Sugar is definitely public enemy #1 right now, and this global sense of fear is impacting everyone, from all ages and all walks of life. We’ve seen various foods demonised over the years, from fats, to carbs, and now sugars. And leaders of these food fad movements have historically been weight loss gurus or medical professionals. But the anti-sugar trend seems to be dominated by “influencers” spruiking their lifestyle brands. There have been some medical professionals - like Dr Lustig who loves to crow about sugar. But in Australia, the shiny beautiful people, like Sarah Wilson, are really heading up the anti sugar movement. Tara commends Sarah for raising awareness about how we can take care of our bodies, but the messages put out via her “I Quit Sugar” social media channels and in the book “I Quit Sugar” are not based on science and are destructive, especially with regards to the impact these messages have on people’s relationship with food. The whole Sarah Wilson/“I Quit Sugar” phenomenon traces back to 2011. Sarah is a journalist and was the ex editor of Cosmopolitan magazine, back then she was a judge on the first season of Masterchef. After that she moved to Byron Bay and began to freelance, writing articles for newspapers. She literally didn’t have a topic for an article one week, and had read David Gillespie’s “Sweet Poison” book (Gillespie is a lawyer). So she did an experiment quitting sugar, wrote about it, and the “I Quit Sugar” machine was born. She started to sell e-books and from there it became a massive empire. She caught the Zeitgeist - just at the start of the anti-sugar climate. Plus, she’s pretty and can write well, and is well connected. This also came at the tail end of the low-fat movement, when research began to recognise that fat wasn’t actually a villain - so we needed a new villain. Enter sugar! Wellness industry 101: 1. Find the villain, 2. Find very vague modern health symptoms like ‘brain fog’ or ‘bloating’, and blame this on the villain, 3. Use your own vague health symptoms to glowing health story as ‘proof’, 4. Sell people a rule-based program to rid themselves of aforementioned villain. I Quit Sugar (IQS) requires people to stop eating any added sugars for 8 weeks. This was beautifully skewered on “The Katering Show”, 2 comedians with a parody cooking show who did a great job of showing, through comedy, just how awful it is to quit sugar. Modern influencers are using this tactic of telling their own stories, of sharing their own tales of ‘recovery’ from vague health symptoms, to sell their ideas. Influencers use their humanity, their accessibility, they are friendly and you feel like you know them. Whereas health professionals are discouraged from sharing their own stories with clients as it is not seens as ‘professional’, especially in psychology where the space is created for the client, not the psychologist. Influencers use their stories as aspirations, as hope - and of course, thinness! “If you eat like me, you’ll end up being like me as I eat zoodles on my $20000 table! Some of the claims in IQS are quite strange. Sarah talks about having Graves disease, and then later on, Hashimoto’s hypothyroidism, which pricked up Louise’s ears, as she has Hashimotos’. She is of the understanding that this condition is largely genetic, and no-one is really sure as to why it switches on. As someone with the condition, Louise has to take a pill every day and has blood tests every 3 months. It is not an easy condition to control - it is something that is always changing. Louise knows that what you eat has bugger all to do with developing Hashimotos’. But on IQS Sarah implies - strongly - that quitting sugar will cure it. Sarah’s claim that a change in her sugar consumption ‘cured’ it ignores the fact that she also takes medication to control it. This is a confound - you cannot claim that autoimmune disease can be cured by not eating sugar if you’re taking meds at the same time. If you want to promote eating in a way that makes you feel good, there’s no issue. But if you want to demonise one thing - ie sugar - there’s an issue! Tara also recognises the wonderful array of nutrients that can be excluded when you promote something as stringent as IQS. A while ago, Tara found a very fancy looking ‘fruit pyramid’ which was presented in a similar way to the old ‘food pyramid’ which used to be promoted as a way to eat. A pyramid is where foods on the bottom are ‘eat lot’ and foods on the top are don’t eat’, or ‘eat very little of’. So the team at IQS developed a fruit hierarchy, and at the top there were bananas! And the fruits you can eat ‘every day’ are berries! Raspberries, lemons & avocados. Now Tara needs to unpack this. Firstly, avocados are not a fruit. Botanically, yes, but not nutritionally - they don’t provide carbohydrates, they provide more fats. Who’s going to slice up a lemon for a tasty snack?! “I really struggle with the ethics of telling people they can only eat raspberries”. Tara calculated that for a family of 4, in order to meet nutritional requirements, a family of 4 would spend around $250 per week on raspberries alone. This is privileged, ridiculous nonsense. To not have even thought of things like expense? And the comments from people thanking IQS for telling them that bananas were dangerous. Tara had a heartbreaking message from a mum who was having a huge panic attack because she was so worried she’s given her kids cancer. The no. 1 pathway into an eating disorder nowadays, for Louise’s clients anyway, is this huge fear of foods and what are considered ‘healthy’ foods. The pro-IQS community really seem to disregard the risk of eating disorder development. Like it’s ‘not a thing’. In preparation for this podcast, Louise has been reading Sarah Wilson’s latest book “First, we Make the Beast Beautiful”. This is her story and she really is open about her lifelong mental health struggles. In it she reveals she had a childhood diagnosis of severe anxiety and insomnia, in her teens severe OCD, and then bulimia, and then bipolar disorder. Louise admires Sarah for writing such a raw and real book about the reality of living with severe mental illness. She is clearly a very intelligent person. But you can see the anxiety in the pages. You can see the pressure of the bipolar. So here is the ethical question - should authors with diagnoses such as these be giving full disclosure before giving out ‘dietary advice’? Especially when one of the diagnoses is an eating disorder? So here we are in the land of the ‘influencer’. Sarah is a journalist who has gone & obtained a health coaching ‘credential’ with the Institute of Integrative Nutrition in New York. Tara has something to say about this Institute. This Institute looks pretty impressive. On their website it says you can study for 6 months and get the health coaching certificate. But you don’t study physiology, chemistry, or anatomy. You just study all the different types of diets out there and whether or not they’re ‘good’. “If I was running an Institute where I’m comparing diets I’d be like - let’s close, because none of them work”! So the degree should be - everything doesn’t work. Here’s your piece of paper! Go out & tell everyone why your diet won’t work - how good would that be! Tara has found that the IQS people always claim that it’s not a diet. They always claim that it’s not restrictive. But Tara cannot fathom how telling someone to cut out a whole food source for 8 weeks is not restrictive? Modern diet culture tells people, if you’re not counting calories it’s not a diet. The recipes are interesting, often full of rice malt syrup, which is of course, sugar. For a while, Louise remembers seeing a whole row of IQS baking products - cakes etc - in the supermarket. And they got in trouble for not being honest on their labels about how much sugar was in them. They only wrote down the sugar content before the rice malt syrup was added, which is of course totally misleading for consumers.* Tara finds this highly unethical & wonders how this was able to happen according to Australian laws surrounding nutrition panels. Rice malt syrup is sugar derived from rice. It does not contain fructose, but it is definitely still sugar. Louise went into a book shop to read IQS. There was a whole page on why you have to quit sugar: because of fructose. So what’s the deal with fructose? Fructose is found naturally in fruit. In the USA, it is manufactured from corn, resulting in what is called high fructose corn syrup (HFCS). This is a highly concentrated version of fructose. This is put into soft drink, in the USA - not in Australia. We use sugar cane syrup, so the fructose is at much lower levels of concentration. Research on the health issues linking consumption of HFCS has been done mostly on rats and mice, and they have been exposed to mega-doses of HFCS in these experiments. So we cannot say that the health problems are happening because of the HFCS or just the mega dose. We could all develop health problems if we mega dosed on broccoli! We also can’t generalise rodent studies to human health. So the problem we have is someone not trained in physiology reads these studies and jumps to enormous conclusions. Just because some American rats OD’d on high fructose corn syrup doesn’t mean we shouldn’t eat bananas! Most of the people spouting the IQS ideas are not adequately qualified or trained in the science of nutrition. There are some medical people talking about it, but they tend to be the exception rather than the rule. Many influencers are not reading the research thoroughly or just cherry picking research that supports their ideas, which is not in the spirit of science! Nutrition science is hard, and complex. The relationship between our health and what we eat is confounded by many factors. One important aspect which is never spoken about by these influencers are issues like poverty, oppression, and even the impact of dieting itself, and the anxiety and food guilt created by such nervous attention to food. What Tara doesn’t like is when a professional such as herself speaks up - in a calm manner - to enquire about the harm being potentially done - and they don’t engage. So with the fruit pyramid issue, Tara politely enquired if the IQS people could share with her the research to support the pyramid. They responded by saying there is ‘lots out there’, but also said that the IQS program is not based on science but a “gentle experiment”. This is mind blowing - telling people they can’t eat bananas, telling them to eat only expensive fruits, charging people $99 for this program, making promises to reduce weight and depression - but none of it is based on science? Tara cannot fathom how that is ok to do that to people. “You can’t give a rigid rule and then call it a gentle experiment” - that’s gaslighting. This is modern diet culture. Everything’s exactly the same. We’ve still got the rigid rules, we’ve still got the ‘this is the way to diet’. Except we’re no longer allowed to call it a diet, or pursue weight loss. We’ve got to talk about wellness or healing really ill defined things. And then use the language of self compassion to turn this into something loving and gentle. And its really not! So, IQS is huge - it has made millions of dollars. Last year Sarah decided to shut the IQS company and move on. She’s very much into the environment etc, reducing food waste. And she’s written the book, First, we Make the Beast Beautiful, a very detailed account of her complex mental health issues. And the question is, should she have disclosed this while she was selling IQS? Louise can understand why she wouldn’t have, this is very personal and private information. But if someone has a history of severe mental illness and an eating disorder, jumping on the food advice bandwagon is, in Louise’s opinion, of concern. In a recent article from the UK, Sarah was interviewed by a reported who had an eating disorder background herself, and the interview did not go well for Sarah. Through the reporter’s eyes, Sarah presented as someone who still had eating issues. And the interview did claim that Sarah had given up on quitting sugar, a claim which Sarah has since vehemently denied. Sarah has claimed she was misquoted, and IQS has done an interview with Sarah to present her side. Tara contacted Sarah on social media to ask her if she had quit the IQS movement, and also put some questions to her regarding the potential harm that IQS has caused. Sarah then posted that she had been bullied by Tara, and by the journalist. She also said that someone with mental health issues should never be bullied. Tara then apologised, and asked for clarification about what Sarah felt had been misquoted in the article. She offered Sarah the opportunity to detail what was wrong about the article and said she would share this with her followers in order to clear it up. She gave Sarah her phone, email and other contact numbers. But she did not respond, and actually went offline for a couple of days. Tara can see how this would have been hard for Sarah - being questioned in public, on social media, about your philosophy, is not easy. Tara gets it: she has her own lived experience with PTSD, and close family members are experiencing severe mental health issues. But Tara does not think this means it is ok to hide accountability behind. She believes it may be a reason, but not an excuse. This has not been easy for Tara either - many in her profession have commended her for having the guts to speak up, some have questioned her. But she doesn’t do it for ‘reputation’ - she does it for her clients. When you see such large numbers of people being harmed by the IQS messages, it’s impossible to stay quiet. It’s not about herself. It’s about all of the people out there who are suffering, and using her voice to stick up for them. "Sometimes I feel like I have an ethical duty to speak up for the general public". In the book, it is clear that Sarah has a big heart, and a big brain. She is genuinely trying to help people, and herself. It’s not easy to live with bipolar disorder, severe anxiety, OCD. But in the book Sarah also talks about being diagnosed with an eating disorder - bulimia - and for that, she has not had treatment. She has had all kinds of treatment for her anxiety. But not for the eating issues, which are very much absent from an otherwise very thorough exploration of her mental health. Louise is a biased too, with her eating disorder hat on, but surely that aspect of mental health has to come into this too? Understanding anxiety is important, and an eating disorder for many people is a way of controlling anxiety by controlling food. Sarah talks frequently about her anxiety as a constant grasping at things to give her a sense of safety in the world. So you can see how controlling what she eats, and having clear lists of foods to eat, could control her anxiety. This kind of connection is not made in the book. And for Louise, it’s a missing piece. People writing self help books are in a position of power. It’s not ok to put responsibility back into the lap of the consumer! Tara has copped criticism for calling Sarah out on this topic, even from fellow health professionals. But she asks: where do we draw the line? Do people have carte blanche to just say anything they like, and then withdraw responsibility by citing poor mental health? We’re grappling now with this question, if someone has a mental health issue can they say anything, cause harm, and that’s ok? Trump’s feelings are also potentially hurt, but people are much less upset about it! Is this a gender thing? What would have happened if it was Paleo Pete coming out with a history of severe mental health issues!? We don’t have the answers, but it is important to have this conversation. Tara has reflected and learned a lot from this experience. Maybe Sarah Wilson has, who knows? Tara’s hope is that if a nutrition professional reaches out to an influencer, they’ll at least listen and have that conversation. If Tara was told that some of her advice had caused harm, she’d be concerned and working at understanding the situation and make sure it doesn’t happen again. But we don’t see this with influencers. The Paleo Pete disaster when he wanted to publish a book with a ‘bone broth’ recipe for babies that was so dangerous it could cause death. Pete was contacted by hundreds of health professionals and organisations pleading with him not to do harm. So he self published the book anyway! Wouldn’t you at some stage check in with yourself? Or just blatantly double down? It reflects the strength of these people’s belief in their nutrition camps. Throughout Sarah’s book is peppered this assumption that sugar is bad. She even tells people that in order to fully recover from anxiety, you definitely need to quit sugar! And that’s not an interpretation, it’s down there in her book, in black & white. “You need to quit sugar. Down to 6-9 teaspoons a day”. That’s not a gentle experiment! This is written in a book for people who are living with anxiety. Because this comes from her belief system, in which anxiety is either caused or worsened by fructose, the book has all of these ideas which are very damaging and could ultimately increase people’s food anxiety. That fear of sugar will create or exacerbate the anxiety which the book is apparently all about alleviating. No-one with an eating disorder can read this book. Also, no one in a larger body can read this book - it’s very fat phobic. There is research on gut health to show that plant foods with lots of fibre can improve our gut health, and that can be linked to mental health. When you quit sugar, you likely eat more plant foods, and that increase is what’s responsible for any improvements, rather than the absence of sugar per say. In intuitive eating, it’s all about adding foods, not taking them away. What’s annoying is this increasing normalising of sugar as a bad thing across our society. Kids are picking up on it. Tara’s 5 year old daughter did a lesson in class on how much sugar was in a can of coke! She’s 5! The world that Tara & I live in - we work in the intensive care ward for eating concerns - and we are seeing people flood in, casualties of the anti-sugar crusade. Sugar is the “devil right now’, and as health professionals it is ok that we are concerned. We’re not picking on any 1 person, we’re talking about figureheads of a movement. We need to remember who we’re trying to protect. It’s our kids. Tara hopes that the influencers can see that nutrition professionals are genuinely helping people - we see genuine concern, genuine problems. Tara is not just a schill for Big Sugar! Tara was asked by “The Conversation” to write an article about the dangers of sugar. Instead, she wrote an article about the dangers of always talking about sugar in a negative way. It ended up being one of the most read articles The Conversation had ever published. Tara was blasted by anti-sugar people for ‘giving people diabetes’. All because she used her scientific knowledge to suggest a much less extreme approach to sugar. And of course people suggested she’s been paid off by “Big Sugar” to write the article. She wasn’t! Good things can happen when people push back and ask questions - for example at the end of last year, the Dietitians Association of Australia stopped taking funding from big food companies. But this absolute demonisation of one food group is just ill advised and short sighted. Resources: Find out more about Tara Leong, including her fabulous anti-diet merchandise, here. The wonderful Katering Show & its wonderful IQS satire The bizarre IQS Fruit Pyramid: The now-closed “I Quit Sugar” empire, which still sells the books etc. Sarah Wilson’s book “First, we Make the Beast Beautiful” *Here is the article about the misleading food labels on the IQS range - note that the products were not actually removed from shelves, but they were discussed as misleading. The Daily Mail article by Eve Simmons claiming that Sarah Wilson had quit quitting sugar (strongly contested by Sarah Wilson) Paleo Pete & his baby killing bone broth Tara’s amazing article in The Conversation about the dangers of talking about sugar as the new devil  

Wellness influencers are everywhere; our social media is littered with shiny haired, sparkly toothed, spray tanned gurus eager to sell us a 'better version' of ourselves. Wellness is just diet culture in organic recyclable wrapping, and my guest Virginia Sole-Smith, feminist author, has had ENOUGH already. Who is responsible for this epidemic of commercialised wellness? WELL, ACTUALLY, our cultural obsession was engineered by thin white men! That's right, back in the late 1990's a bunch of privileged white dudes created a whole new way of gaslighting women! No longer content with the simplistic demand for thinness, wellness culture has added extra layers of guilt - not only MUST we be thin, we must also care about the environment, never eat processed foods, recycle, and remain ZEN. It's exhausting, confusing, and we've had enough! Join us for an epic rant! Show Notes My guest is the fierce and fabulous Virginia Sole-Smith, journalist and author of “The Eating Instinct: Food Culture, Body Image and Guilt in America”. Virginia is enormously cheesed off with privileged, thin white men who get off on telling us what to do with our bodies and how big/small we need to be. I found a brilliant article that Virginia had written entitled “Well, Actually...The thin white men who rebranded dieting as “wellness”” - and just HAD to talk to her more about this. There are a truckload of ‘mansplainers’ in the wellness space. And in her article, Virginia is tracing back the timeline of our current wellness saturation. Virginia points out that currently, wellness ‘influencers’ are often thin white women, and they cop a fair amount of criticism for their messaging - RIGHTLY SO - but when we look at where they’re getting this world view of wellness from, it does tend to go back to thin white men who really think they know how everybody should eat. Back in the 1980’s diet culture was heavily influenced by thin white men like Dr Atkins (Atkins Diet) and Dr Agatston who invented the South Beach Diet. We’ve had men telling us what to eat for decades! This trend dovetailed with women entering the workforce since the 1970’s. If we can keep women focused on our bodies, on trying to stay as small as possible, that saps a lot of energy when we could be out dominating the world. In the 1990’s Naomi Wolf wrote in The Beauty Myth that dieting is the most potent sedative in women’s history, it keeps us focused in a really narrow way and not participating in the world. We can trace this trend of the Thin White Men back even further, back to Kellogg, to Banting, to these thin white men who dominated and create the narrative of deprivation for us to follow. Even Jenny Craig launched her business with her husband Sid who was really the driver of the business model, while she was ‘the face’. This often happens - a woman is the front of house but a man is powering everything. Guys often take credit for their thinness when in reality they’re born on 3rd base - they have bodies that are genetically programmed to be a smaller size. Others are programmed differently, theirs just happens to fit a cultural ideal. It’s not really through anything they did, it’s just biology & genetics that set them up this way. The ‘bootstrapping’ mentality - if you have success, that’s definitely down to you, but concepts like adversity, hardship, oppression - none of that really applies to the Thin White Men. In the mid 2000’s, Thin White Guys got more subtle, and more overtly political than their diet peddling forefathers In the 1990’s and even early 2000’s, we knew when a diet was a diet. But when Thin White Men like Michael Pollan (In Defense of Food) and Michael Bittman (Vegan Before 6) came along, they talked about food with an environmental and political agenda, this whole other mission of reducing meat consumption and embracing organic farming. Concepts like this - having a more sustainable food supply, or eating more plant based foods, - are fine, and useful ideas, but the Thin White men turn these concepts into dogma, and take it into communities who just don’t have access to this way of living and to be honest have bigger problems to face than the quality of the food they’re eating, and say hey, you should eat like me and the “o*esity crisis’ will be solved. For many people, it’s hard to connect with organic farmers, but if it is framed in terms of the weight issue, this becomes something that really grabs people’s attention. This is where the groundwork for our modern concepts of wellness came from - now it’s not about dieting, now it’s about wellness and healthy eating and sustainability. Except it’s not, it’s still about weight! We’ve really lost the environmental agenda but we’ve still attached this morality to these food choices. This is where it gets really elitist and classist and racist, in addition to the misogyny that’s been there all along. I’m better than you because of how I eat. Louise admits that early on in her anti-diet career, Michael Pollan’s book was for sale in her practice! He was so convincing. It took her a while to recognise how elitist and snobby (and white) it was to tell people that a certain way of eating was morally superior to another, without taking consideration of the multiple layers of disadvantage and inequality people experience. Michael Pollan did one great thing - he called out the ‘fake’ diet foods (especially low fat yogurt, how gross) which were very unsatisfying for people. The problem was he replaced it with another diet and did not empower people to trust their bodies. Pollan never questioned the thin is good rhetoric, he even talks about his way of eating as a way to solve the ‘problem’ of larger bodies. Pollan’s second book, “The Rules of Food”, is like a women’s dieting magazine article, but it’s written by a man. Ewwwww. The mansplaining of wellness is not just an American Thin White Man thing. In the UK, Jamie Oliver also talks up the power of unprocessed foods as a way of solving the apparent ‘crisis’ of larger kids. At first, approaches like Oliver’s seemed exciting, and Louise had his cookbooks as well, it was fun to enjoy cooking again with lots of fresh foods. But as time progressed it seems that his message has increased in fervour, that the reason to eat like this is to change the problem of fat bodies. Jamie’s habit of lunch box shaming drives Virginia crazy, as kids don’t really have a lot of choice as to what’s in their lunch box. It’s particularly stigmatising to poorer and disadvantaged kids, which is evil! Here in Australia, the King of the Humans when it comes to Thin White Men mansplaining wellness is Pete Evans or ‘Paleo Pete’, a celebrity chef from Masterchef who owned a pizza restaurant and was normal until he discovered the Paleo diet, lost 300 grams, and became an absolute zealot. He’s gone really extreme, totally rogue, anti-fluoride, anti-vaccination etc. The amount of moralising and dressing up wellness as a disguise for thinness is really awful with Pete. It seems he is everywhere right now as well. It’s really dangerous the way people like this use flimsy arguments or bring up totally shit studies to support their extreme views. And we are vulnerable to these people and these messages. In her article Virginia writes that celebrity influencers like Gwyneth Paltrow have been ‘simultaneously inspiring and terrorising their audiences”, and this works well for Paleo Pete too. It’s 5% inspite and 95% terrify and gaslight, introducing this distrust in our bodies. Don’t trust yourself, you need to outsource everything to this guru or expert. This was the foundation for Virginia’s book The Eating Instinct, that as humans, we generally know when we are hungry, what we feel like eating, and when we are full. We can trust this. Virginia is a journalist, who used to be a ghost writer for celebrity “lifestyle’ books, and used to cover ‘wellness’ for women’s magazines - right in the thick of it! As a feminist it was really hard and Virginia struggled with the messages women were being given around food. For a long time, Virginia looked for the ‘right’ diet - one that would work. And Michal Pollan offered that, or so it looked, so for a long time Virginia was on that bandwagon. In 2013 when Virginia’s daughter Violet was born, everything changed. Violet was born with a congenital heart condition and she almost did. As a result of this, she stopped eating completely and was dependent on a feeding tube for the best part of 2 years. Virginia had done everything ‘right’ - really trying to look after her prenatal nutrition, exercise etc, and now her baby would not eat and no-one knew why. There are no experts, there are no plans here. There’s just me and this kid and we’ve got to figure this out! When Violet was too scared to eat, it really brought home the reality of food as a basic instinct. It’s not about finding the right ‘plan’, it’s about figuring out our own relationship with food. Virginia realised it wasn’t just about nutrition: food needed to provide comfort. In order to get Violet to eat, she needed to teach her that food was safe, comforting and pleasurable. In diet culture emotional eating is viewed as a ‘bad’ thing, when in fact this is what we’re programmed to do. Babies eat emotionally! The act of feeding a baby raises our oxytocin levels - the hormones associated with love, safety and comfort. And this is breast or bottlefeeding! Diet and wellness culture views eating as something to get ‘right’ nutritionally, and ignores all of these other important aspects of our relationship with food. Even in some non-diet spaces, there’s a message that if you learn the principles of mindful eating you’ll stop comfort or emotional eating. This is different to eating to numb difficult emotions - which we may call comfort eating, but it’s not really providing comfort, it’s more a habit of eating to escape or check out from difficult emotions. It’s more accurately described as ‘distress’ eating. At the heart of this kind of eating is restriction, and you can’t get away from this type of pattern unless you have full permission to eat. Once this sense of permission and safety is established, a beautiful self-regulation can appear, so you feel safe eating whatever you feel like, and you also know when you’ve had enough. That’s pretty radical, and something a lot of adults struggle with in diet culture! Many people who come to the non-diet approach arrive because they want to stop the binge or comfort eating. But establishing a safe foundation of food safety needs to happen first - not elimination of binge eating. When you start the process of permission and food safety, often you will eat more than you might be used to while everything is settling in. This can be scary for people, but it is necessary to keep embracing full permission, as it’s only when we feel truly safe that we can start to feel more in contact with physical signals. Going through the process of eating more is not pathological - you are healing from this deprivation induced trauma. It can take time & can be messy! In diet culture the restriction mindset is so dominant, particularly for women we are taught that we should always want less. It’s so difficult to eat, especially in public. This is this patriarchal message about food that we’ve really internalised. It’s a very radical thing to reject that, and to say I embrace my hunger, my appetite, my body, my right to take up space in the world. We’re fighting not just for ourselves, but for others, and for future generations. During Virginia’s experiences with Violet, she got to know a lot about paediatric feeding problems and how they are treated. In the USA, babies are treated at feeding centres, not eating disorder clinics. It’s behaviour therapy - kids are encouraged to push through their fears, and get rewards for eating a bite of food. Virginia was horrified - knowing that her daughter was going to grow up in diet culture, with so many messages already there to not listen to her body - and the programs would really strongly reinforce this. Virginia believed that Violet’s response to the trauma was logical, and that treatment needed to honour that. She researched & found out about the child lead model, a longer process but one which really allows the trauma to heal and for the child to re establish a sense of safety and comfort around food. The behavioural approach is quicker, it’s a kind of boot camp model. But for Virginia, it was like looking at dieting versus intuitive eating, and she wanted to do the intuitive model. Virginia began to realise that it is the loss of the eating instinct - the loss of knowing hunger, fullness, and a sense of safety and comfort - that underpins many eating struggles. So she wrote a book about it! The book has many stories of how people get disconnected from their instincts, and how this impacts their lives. Virginia’s experiences with Violet have really helped her with her second daughter, to navigate things like appetite fluctuation without panic. The feeding philosophy which underpins Virginia’s approach to Violet is called “The Division of Responsibility in Feeding” developed by Ellyn Satter, she’s been around for decades. This says that feeding is a relationship, that parents and kids have distinct roles. Parents are in charge of what, where and when to eat. Kids are in charge of how much to eat, and whether or not to eat everything on offer. With this model, food intake may not look ‘balanced’ at every meal, but over time, they tend to get everything they need. Also what appears is this ability to self regulate, for the kids to really know what they need, it’s so awesome. When you have kids who are intuitive eaters, things change all the time. And that’s ok. It’s about honouring the child’s instincts, not policing their nutrition intake. This is where the lunch box policing is not helpful! There are many other considerations than dietary quality. An awful news article came out recently comparing the lunch box contents of rich kids to poor kids, with the conclusion of look how much better the rich kids are eating…..tone deaf! It is a privilege to be able to think about dietary quality. It is ok to give your kids comfort food. And processed foods! Violet wouldn’t have learned how to get comfortable to eat without baby food pouches. Certainly, there’s something wonderful about improving our food supply. But we need to not shame people, and also to honour people’s individual relationships with food. Feeding kids is not easy! We need to honour the work parents are doing. Resources Mentioned: Virginia’s amazing piece for Bitch Media: “Well, actually…..” More about Ellyn Satter & The Division of Responsibility model The awful news article on school lunch boxes Find out more about Viriginia Sole Smith

Wellness influencers are everywhere; our social media is littered with shiny haired, sparkly toothed, spray tanned gurus eager to sell us a 'better version' of ourselves. Wellness is just diet culture in organic recyclable wrapping, and my guest Virginia Sole-Smith, feminist author, has had ENOUGH already. Who is responsible for this epidemic of commercialised wellness? WELL, ACTUALLY, our cultural obsession was engineered by thin white men! That's right, back in the late 1990's a bunch of privileged white dudes created a whole new way of gaslighting women! No longer content with the simplistic demand for thinness, wellness culture has added extra layers of guilt - not only MUST we be thin, we must also care about the environment, never eat processed foods, recycle, and remain ZEN. It's exhausting, confusing, and we've had enough! Join us for an epic rant! Show Notes My guest is the fierce and fabulous Virginia Sole-Smith, journalist and author of “The Eating Instinct: Food Culture, Body Image and Guilt in America”. Virginia is enormously cheesed off with privileged, thin white men who get off on telling us what to do with our bodies and how big/small we need to be. I found a brilliant article that Virginia had written entitled “Well, Actually...The thin white men who rebranded dieting as “wellness”” - and just HAD to talk to her more about this. There are a truckload of ‘mansplainers’ in the wellness space. And in her article, Virginia is tracing back the timeline of our current wellness saturation. Virginia points out that currently, wellness ‘influencers’ are often thin white women, and they cop a fair amount of criticism for their messaging - RIGHTLY SO - but when we look at where they’re getting this world view of wellness from, it does tend to go back to thin white men who really think they know how everybody should eat. Back in the 1980’s diet culture was heavily influenced by thin white men like Dr Atkins (Atkins Diet) and Dr Agatston who invented the South Beach Diet. We’ve had men telling us what to eat for decades! This trend dovetailed with women entering the workforce since the 1970’s. If we can keep women focused on our bodies, on trying to stay as small as possible, that saps a lot of energy when we could be out dominating the world. In the 1990’s Naomi Wolf wrote in The Beauty Myth that dieting is the most potent sedative in women’s history, it keeps us focused in a really narrow way and not participating in the world. We can trace this trend of the Thin White Men back even further, back to Kellogg, to Banting, to these thin white men who dominated and create the narrative of deprivation for us to follow. Even Jenny Craig launched her business with her husband Sid who was really the driver of the business model, while she was ‘the face’. This often happens - a woman is the front of house but a man is powering everything. Guys often take credit for their thinness when in reality they’re born on 3rd base - they have bodies that are genetically programmed to be a smaller size. Others are programmed differently, theirs just happens to fit a cultural ideal. It’s not really through anything they did, it’s just biology & genetics that set them up this way. The ‘bootstrapping’ mentality - if you have success, that’s definitely down to you, but concepts like adversity, hardship, oppression - none of that really applies to the Thin White Men. In the mid 2000’s, Thin White Guys got more subtle, and more overtly political than their diet peddling forefathers In the 1990’s and even early 2000’s, we knew when a diet was a diet. But when Thin White Men like Michael Pollan (In Defense of Food) and Michael Bittman (Vegan Before 6) came along, they talked about food with an environmental and political agenda, this whole other mission of reducing meat consumption and embracing organic farming. Concepts like this - having a more sustainable food supply, or eating more plant based foods, - are fine, and useful ideas, but the Thin White men turn these concepts into dogma, and take it into communities who just don’t have access to this way of living and to be honest have bigger problems to face than the quality of the food they’re eating, and say hey, you should eat like me and the “o*esity crisis’ will be solved. For many people, it’s hard to connect with organic farmers, but if it is framed in terms of the weight issue, this becomes something that really grabs people’s attention. This is where the groundwork for our modern concepts of wellness came from - now it’s not about dieting, now it’s about wellness and healthy eating and sustainability. Except it’s not, it’s still about weight! We’ve really lost the environmental agenda but we’ve still attached this morality to these food choices. This is where it gets really elitist and classist and racist, in addition to the misogyny that’s been there all along. I’m better than you because of how I eat. Louise admits that early on in her anti-diet career, Michael Pollan’s book was for sale in her practice! He was so convincing. It took her a while to recognise how elitist and snobby (and white) it was to tell people that a certain way of eating was morally superior to another, without taking consideration of the multiple layers of disadvantage and inequality people experience. Michael Pollan did one great thing - he called out the ‘fake’ diet foods (especially low fat yogurt, how gross) which were very unsatisfying for people. The problem was he replaced it with another diet and did not empower people to trust their bodies. Pollan never questioned the thin is good rhetoric, he even talks about his way of eating as a way to solve the ‘problem’ of larger bodies. Pollan’s second book, “The Rules of Food”, is like a women’s dieting magazine article, but it’s written by a man. Ewwwww. The mansplaining of wellness is not just an American Thin White Man thing. In the UK, Jamie Oliver also talks up the power of unprocessed foods as a way of solving the apparent ‘crisis’ of larger kids. At first, approaches like Oliver’s seemed exciting, and Louise had his cookbooks as well, it was fun to enjoy cooking again with lots of fresh foods. But as time progressed it seems that his message has increased in fervour, that the reason to eat like this is to change the problem of fat bodies. Jamie’s habit of lunch box shaming drives Virginia crazy, as kids don’t really have a lot of choice as to what’s in their lunch box. It’s particularly stigmatising to poorer and disadvantaged kids, which is evil! Here in Australia, the King of the Humans when it comes to Thin White Men mansplaining wellness is Pete Evans or ‘Paleo Pete’, a celebrity chef from Masterchef who owned a pizza restaurant and was normal until he discovered the Paleo diet, lost 300 grams, and became an absolute zealot. He’s gone really extreme, totally rogue, anti-fluoride, anti-vaccination etc. The amount of moralising and dressing up wellness as a disguise for thinness is really awful with Pete. It seems he is everywhere right now as well. It’s really dangerous the way people like this use flimsy arguments or bring up totally shit studies to support their extreme views. And we are vulnerable to these people and these messages. In her article Virginia writes that celebrity influencers like Gwyneth Paltrow have been ‘simultaneously inspiring and terrorising their audiences”, and this works well for Paleo Pete too. It’s 5% inspite and 95% terrify and gaslight, introducing this distrust in our bodies. Don’t trust yourself, you need to outsource everything to this guru or expert. This was the foundation for Virginia’s book The Eating Instinct, that as humans, we generally know when we are hungry, what we feel like eating, and when we are full. We can trust this. Virginia is a journalist, who used to be a ghost writer for celebrity “lifestyle’ books, and used to cover ‘wellness’ for women’s magazines - right in the thick of it! As a feminist it was really hard and Virginia struggled with the messages women were being given around food. For a long time, Virginia looked for the ‘right’ diet - one that would work. And Michal Pollan offered that, or so it looked, so for a long time Virginia was on that bandwagon. In 2013 when Virginia’s daughter Violet was born, everything changed. Violet was born with a congenital heart condition and she almost did. As a result of this, she stopped eating completely and was dependent on a feeding tube for the best part of 2 years. Virginia had done everything ‘right’ - really trying to look after her prenatal nutrition, exercise etc, and now her baby would not eat and no-one knew why. There are no experts, there are no plans here. There’s just me and this kid and we’ve got to figure this out! When Violet was too scared to eat, it really brought home the reality of food as a basic instinct. It’s not about finding the right ‘plan’, it’s about figuring out our own relationship with food. Virginia realised it wasn’t just about nutrition: food needed to provide comfort. In order to get Violet to eat, she needed to teach her that food was safe, comforting and pleasurable. In diet culture emotional eating is viewed as a ‘bad’ thing, when in fact this is what we’re programmed to do. Babies eat emotionally! The act of feeding a baby raises our oxytocin levels - the hormones associated with love, safety and comfort. And this is breast or bottlefeeding! Diet and wellness culture views eating as something to get ‘right’ nutritionally, and ignores all of these other important aspects of our relationship with food. Even in some non-diet spaces, there’s a message that if you learn the principles of mindful eating you’ll stop comfort or emotional eating. This is different to eating to numb difficult emotions - which we may call comfort eating, but it’s not really providing comfort, it’s more a habit of eating to escape or check out from difficult emotions. It’s more accurately described as ‘distress’ eating. At the heart of this kind of eating is restriction, and you can’t get away from this type of pattern unless you have full permission to eat. Once this sense of permission and safety is established, a beautiful self-regulation can appear, so you feel safe eating whatever you feel like, and you also know when you’ve had enough. That’s pretty radical, and something a lot of adults struggle with in diet culture! Many people who come to the non-diet approach arrive because they want to stop the binge or comfort eating. But establishing a safe foundation of food safety needs to happen first - not elimination of binge eating. When you start the process of permission and food safety, often you will eat more than you might be used to while everything is settling in. This can be scary for people, but it is necessary to keep embracing full permission, as it’s only when we feel truly safe that we can start to feel more in contact with physical signals. Going through the process of eating more is not pathological - you are healing from this deprivation induced trauma. It can take time & can be messy! In diet culture the restriction mindset is so dominant, particularly for women we are taught that we should always want less. It’s so difficult to eat, especially in public. This is this patriarchal message about food that we’ve really internalised. It’s a very radical thing to reject that, and to say I embrace my hunger, my appetite, my body, my right to take up space in the world. We’re fighting not just for ourselves, but for others, and for future generations. During Virginia’s experiences with Violet, she got to know a lot about paediatric feeding problems and how they are treated. In the USA, babies are treated at feeding centres, not eating disorder clinics. It’s behaviour therapy - kids are encouraged to push through their fears, and get rewards for eating a bite of food. Virginia was horrified - knowing that her daughter was going to grow up in diet culture, with so many messages already there to not listen to her body - and the programs would really strongly reinforce this. Virginia believed that Violet’s response to the trauma was logical, and that treatment needed to honour that. She researched & found out about the child lead model, a longer process but one which really allows the trauma to heal and for the child to re establish a sense of safety and comfort around food. The behavioural approach is quicker, it’s a kind of boot camp model. But for Virginia, it was like looking at dieting versus intuitive eating, and she wanted to do the intuitive model. Virginia began to realise that it is the loss of the eating instinct - the loss of knowing hunger, fullness, and a sense of safety and comfort - that underpins many eating struggles. So she wrote a book about it! The book has many stories of how people get disconnected from their instincts, and how this impacts their lives. Virginia’s experiences with Violet have really helped her with her second daughter, to navigate things like appetite fluctuation without panic. The feeding philosophy which underpins Virginia’s approach to Violet is called “The Division of Responsibility in Feeding” developed by Ellyn Satter, she’s been around for decades. This says that feeding is a relationship, that parents and kids have distinct roles. Parents are in charge of what, where and when to eat. Kids are in charge of how much to eat, and whether or not to eat everything on offer. With this model, food intake may not look ‘balanced’ at every meal, but over time, they tend to get everything they need. Also what appears is this ability to self regulate, for the kids to really know what they need, it’s so awesome. When you have kids who are intuitive eaters, things change all the time. And that’s ok. It’s about honouring the child’s instincts, not policing their nutrition intake. This is where the lunch box policing is not helpful! There are many other considerations than dietary quality. An awful news article came out recently comparing the lunch box contents of rich kids to poor kids, with the conclusion of look how much better the rich kids are eating…..tone deaf! It is a privilege to be able to think about dietary quality. It is ok to give your kids comfort food. And processed foods! Violet wouldn’t have learned how to get comfortable to eat without baby food pouches. Certainly, there’s something wonderful about improving our food supply. But we need to not shame people, and also to honour people’s individual relationships with food. Feeding kids is not easy! We need to honour the work parents are doing. Resources Mentioned: Virginia’s amazing piece for Bitch Media: “Well, actually…..” More about Ellyn Satter & The Division of Responsibility model The awful news article on school lunch boxes Find out more about Viriginia Sole Smith

Lee-Anne Wann joined the Weekend Collective to discuss Netflix's Paleo Pete documentary and if 5+ a day is the right target for our fruit and vege intake.LISTEN TO THE FULL HEALTH AND WELLNESS SEGMENT FROM 'THE WEEKEND COLLECTIVE' ABOVE

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE HUMAN???   “Our emotional disconnect from ourselves and each other is far more devastating than any food or beverage” -Pete Evans   Welcome to episode 30 of The Travelling Wellness Show   Today I’m in the family kitchen of celebrity chef and controversial ‘foodie’ Pete Evans, to discuss, well, Life.   This episode is a glare into the real world of the guy you’ve all seen on television. And one thing is for certain, there is far more to Paleo Pete than just his love of simple living.   "I am happy to be the messenger; the connector for the people out there who might not have as large a platform to deliver the message as some chef who’s famous for being a judge on a cooking show" -Pete Evans   Under the suit in fact embodies a very mellow lover of life, of love and of truth. Pete doesn’t drive an agenda of what he thinks the world should know, more an ideology of what is, and has been since the beginning of time. Pete’s deep respect for truth has led him through doors which once opened, cannot be closed nor denied. Now I know, you ALL have an opinion of Pete. You either love his viewpoints and prescribe to his way of life, or you sit firmly on the other side, and at time rightly so, querying the evidence Pete so blatantly throws under the microscope, questioning everything you know or were taught.   " “The truth can be unsettling for people; it can be unsettling for the energy of a society” -Pete. E   And where do I sit people ask, well firmly with Pete, and moreso with the growing list of researchers and clinicians who realised long ago that ‘health’ and ‘what works' IS easily indentifiable when you work with enough people and realise that current dietary guidelines are an embarrassment to humanity.   Cheers Pete for the liver Terrine and genuine conversation about what it actually means to be human...   If you enjoy this episode guys please share it across you social media platforms and expose more people this the other side of Chef Pete Evans   Enjoy the show   Shannon...

Pete Evans is a world-renowned chef, restauranteur and co-host of hit TV show, My Kitchen Rules - he...

Heather and Mitch from Christchurch cooked on MKR NZ last night. Picked Pork, Venison and Bomb Alaska all sound great. Take a listen to our recap and find out how things went for dinner last night.

This week I spoke with Courtney Pharoah, dietitian from No Green Smoothies, who absolutely HAD to get Pete Evans off her chest. Courtney was in dire need of debriefing after reading a news article where Pete was saying that eating 3 meals a day is a conspiracy created by Big Food to keep us all fat and unhealthy. Oh give me strength!! Courtney cuts through the cultish bulls**t and introduces some much needed rational thought! The fact is, cults like this are doing much more harm than good. Modern wellness is just the diet industry rebranded, and the obsession with health is making us much sicker. 

This week I spoke with Courtney Pharoah, dietitian from No Green Smoothies, who absolutely HAD to get Pete Evans off her chest. Courtney was in dire need of debriefing after reading a news article where Pete was saying that eating 3 meals a day is a conspiracy created by Big Food to keep us all fat and unhealthy. Oh give me strength!! Courtney cuts through the cultish bulls**t and introduces some much needed rational thought! The fact is, cults like this are doing much more harm than good. Modern wellness is just the diet industry rebranded, and the obsession with health is making us much sicker. 

Zenon Kosmider reads the headlines from the Daily Telegraph for Sunday September 4.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Rosie Waterland has never watched MKR, until now.  And hot damn, she has all the questions. A former contestant spills the broad beans, revealing how long those dinners REALLY take, whether Paleo Pete eats or spits, and the juiciest behind the scenes moments that will have you waving your spatula and shouting at the TV. Plus, with House of Cards Season 4 imminent, Jamila Rizvi joins a discussion of the most anticipated political drama yet, and addresses those rumours that Claire Underwood... Show notes Your hosts are Rosie Waterland and Sarah Jane Collins with thanks to Steph Mulheron and Jamila Rizvi       This show is produced by Holly Wainwright and Monique Bowley     Contact the show via Twitter, facebook or by emailing podcast@mamamia.com.au This show is part of the Mamamia Women's Network

Rosie Waterland has never watched MKR, until now.  And hot damn, she has all the questions. A former contestant spills the broad beans, revealing how long those dinners REALLY take, whether Paleo Pete eats or spits, and the juiciest behind the scenes moments that will have you waving your spatula and shouting at the TV. Plus, with House of Cards Season 4 imminent, Jamila Rizvi joins a discussion of the most anticipated political drama yet, and addresses those rumours that Claire Underwood... Show notes Your hosts are Rosie Waterland and Sarah Jane Collins with thanks to Steph Mulheron and Jamila Rizvi       This show is produced by Holly Wainwright and Monique Bowley     Contact the show via Twitter, facebook or by emailing podcast@mamamia.com.au This show is part of the Mamamia Women's Network